joins me for the duration of the show . uh, with the threat of show. uh, with the threat of a possible nuclear war looming , possible nuclear war looming, nuclear war with russia, what can the west expect for its military forces in the months and years ahead .7 i'll be joined and years ahead? i'll be joined by retired colonel douglas macgregor to delve into this subject. with a record half a million people making the treacherous crossing of the danen treacherous crossing of the darien gap between south america and the usa last year, how on earth will the united states of america ever get a grip on its migration crisis? and finally , migration crisis? and finally, author and journalist batya ungar joins me to discuss how on earth the united states has become so infected with the sickness of wokery . and to talk sickness of wokery. and to talk

about her explosive new book, second class how the elites betrayed america's working men and women . all of that, and much and women. all of that, and much more coming up. but first, an update on the latest news from sam francis . sam francis. >> neil, thank you very much and good evening from the gb news room. it'sjust good evening from the gb news room. it's just gone 6:00 and leading the news tonight, the family of jailed politician alexei navalny say they don't know his body is and that know where his body is and that they believe it's being held by russian they can russian authorities so they can cover comes as cover their tracks. it comes as president is facing president putin is facing increasing international condemnation here in the uk. crowds have gathered crowds have been gathered outside the russian embassy in london, and london, laying tributes and protesting throughout the night. the though , says that the kremlin, though, says that the west's reaction is unacceptable, describing it as absolutely rabid. the ukrainian president, vladimir zelenskyy, is among those who have laid blame on the russian leader, calling a thug who he says calling putin a thug who he says must be stopped . well president must be stopped. well president zelenskyy has also been speaking

at the munich security conference today, and he says there is a shortage of long—range weapons which are hampering his fight against russian forces in the country, joining g7 ministers for a minute's silence today, foreign secretary lord cameron also said the uk will stand by ukraine. that's a sentiment that was echoed by the labour leader, sir keir starmer. president zelenskyy told leaders there that there's an urgent need for more western support, while italy's foreign minister said ukraine's membership of the eu and then nato was inevitable . and then nato was inevitable. meanwhile, sweden is a step closer to joining nato after hungary flagged that it would settle a dispute to ratify its membership . sweden is just 140 membership. sweden is just 140 miles from the russian border. the country applied to join nato in 2022, in a historic shift to its policy, which was prompted by vladimir putin's invasion of ukraine. and back here in the uk, we've heard in the last hour or so that one person has now

been charged with assisting illegal entry to the uk following the discovery of migrants in the back of a freezer lorry in east sussex yesterday . the home office yesterday. the home office hasn't, though, named the person they've charged. it's after a major incident was sparked yesterday, prompting large responses emergency responses from emergency services at new haven's ferry port. six people were taken to hospital . police, though, say hospital. police, though, say they are continuing their investigations in london. thousands of tens of thousands of protesters, in fact, have been marching through the capital in solidarity with palestinians in gaza . some palestinians in gaza. some violence has broken out between demonstrators and the police, according to reporters at the scene. we understand people scene. we understand 11 people have arrested for have now been arrested for a string of alleged offences, including inciting racial hatred string of alleged offences, incl|assaulting ng racial hatred string of alleged offences, incl|assaulting emergency|tred string of alleged offences, incl|assaulting emergency workers and assaulting emergency workers . former labour leader jeremy corbyn was among those addressing the crowd at 14th addressing the crowd at the 14th national demonstration in the uk. he said there will be as many more as it takes until there is a ceasefire in gaza. our reporter, will hollis has

been following march outside been following the march outside the embassy . the israel embassy. >> this is the end point for the global day of action that's been marching through the city of london today . there's a stage london today. there's a stage there where jeremy corbyn, the former labour leader, has just finished speaking and the target destination is the israeli embassy. but you can see that officers from the met police have blocked the way officers say that they've arrested at least ten people in relation to the policing of protest today. this is the ninth day of global action, but it won't be the last. and thousands of demonstrators have also been marching through glasgow today to protest outside the scottish labour conference that's taking place there. >> members at that conference have now backed a call for a ceasefire in gaza . in a show of ceasefire in gaza. in a show of unanimous support for its leader, anas sarwar's call to end the conflict. the motion passed unopposed on the second day of the scottish labour conference and it urged an end to rocket fire and the unconditional release of

hostages taken by hostages that were taken by hamas on the 7th of october attacks. it puts the party, though, at with westminster though, at odds with westminster colleagues, sir keir colleagues, with sir keir starmer stopping short of calling a ceasefire, saying calling for a ceasefire, saying instead wants to see a instead that he wants to see a sustainable end the war. in sustainable end to the war. in other news, we've learned today that a third of small boat arrivals since 2018 have taken place, while rishi sunak was prime minister. that's to according new analysis by the labour party . it comes after 52 labour party. it comes after 52 people reportedly crossed the engush people reportedly crossed the english channel by small boat yesterday day, meaning there have been just over 38,500 arrivals since mr sunak became prime minister. labour says it's proof the government's focus on its rwanda plan isn't enough to solve the crisis, but the government insists its policies are working . and it says the are working. and it says the number of crossings last year are down more than a third compared to the year before. more and finally, farmers in kent have been staging a protest today at a tesco supermarket. they say they're furious at what they've called cheap international imports around 20

tractors have been parked at tesco extra in whitfield, near dover , to raise awareness of dover, to raise awareness of what they fear could be a threat to britain's food security . they to britain's food security. they say they can't compete with cheap foreign imports and unless something is done, they say british farmers won't be able to afford to feed the public. for the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen . or, the qr code on your screen. or, of course, go to our website gb news. carmelites . news. carmelites. >> at the time of his death in 1940, major general smedley butler was the most highly decorated marine in us history. in a book published in 1935, he wrote war is a racket. it always has been. it's possibly the oldest , has been. it's possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable. surely the most vicious. it is the only one international in scope . it is international in scope. it is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars, and the losses in lives . let's

and the losses in lives. let's imagine a man like major general butler knew what he was talking about when it came the about when it came to the subject as well as subject of war. as well as physically i would he physically brave. i would say he was morally courageous to the end of his days. said that end of his days. he said that dunng end of his days. he said that during 33 years of active during his 33 years of active military service, he spent most of as a, quote, high of his time as a, quote, high class muscle man big for class muscle man for big for business, wall street and the bankers in short, he said, i was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism . a racket is best capitalism. a racket is best described , he said, as something described, he said, as something thatis described, he said, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of the people . only majority of the people. only a small inside group knows what it's it's conducted for it's about. it's conducted for the of the very at the benefit of the very few at the benefit of the very few at the expense the very many. the expense of the very many. out of war. a people make out of war. a few people make huge fortunes . out of war. a few people make huge fortunes. i would out of war. a few people make huge fortunes . i would say it's huge fortunes. i would say it's plain to see that the racket has been going from strength to strength since . in his strength ever since. in his farewell to the american farewell address to the american people in 1961, outgoing president and old soldier dwight d eisenhower warned about the threat posed by what he was already able to identify as the military industrial complex. quote this conjunction of an

immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the american experience. yet we must not fail to comprehend , we must not fail to comprehend, and its grave implications . this and its grave implications. this conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new. we must not fail to comprehend its implications in the councils of government. we must guard against acquisition of unwarranted influence , whether unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military industrial complex . the military industrial complex. the potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist now nearly 90 years after smedley's assessment of the cynical nature of war, the billions of dollars, pounds, euros and the rest continue to flow into the coffers and bank accounts of the few . and who are accounts of the few. and who are the few, those beneficiaries of the few, those beneficiaries of the endless firing of bullets and bombs, ghouls who see loss of human life only in terms of profitable columns on their balance sheets. it's a tragically accurate adage that young men who don't know each other and don't hate each other are sent to war by old men who do know each other and may or

may not hate each other, but who shake hands split the shake hands and split the profits. when all the young men are dead. were still right there in that hellscape. hapless witnesses to the ultimate racket as hundreds of billions of dollars and pounds flow into ukraine and then back into the bank accounts of that military industrial complex. s russian dissident alexei navalny has died in prison. us president joe biden was quickly thrust in front of the world's media to exploit that death to justify the sending of yet more billions of dollars to zelenskyy's ukraine, he said . we have to ukraine, he said. we have to provide the funding so ukraine can keep defending itself . can keep defending itself. history is watching the failure to support ukraine at this crucial moment will be crucial moment will never be forgotten. former president donald trump was impeached in 2019. seen before any russian tanks had crossed the ukrainian border for pausing funds already earmarked for ukraine $391 billion in security assistance $250 million through the department of defence's ukraine security assistance initiative .

security assistance initiative. and $141 million through the state department's foreign military financing program . military financing program. trump paused all of that because he wanted to investigate alleged biden family links to ukraine and was subsequently impeached , and was subsequently impeached, according to republican senator j.d. vance, a new bill proposed . j.d. vance, a new bill proposed. by j.d. vance, a new bill proposed. by the biden administration guarantees a further $61 billion to ukraine. money earmarked primarily for us arms manufacturers has within it a clause leaving any attempt by a future president to halt that funding vulnerable to similar proceedings . this has been proceedings. this has been described as future proofing the funding of ukraine against the possibility that trump or anyone else in future, seeks to interrupt the flow of dollars to ukraine. biden mourned navalny's death. even in prison, he was a powerful voice for the truth, he said. an interesting statement while journalist julian assange, who published truth inconvenient to the us and the west, presently rots in belmarsh prison as he fights extradition

to the us . i'm prison as he fights extradition to the us. i'm not yet prison as he fights extradition to the us . i'm not yet aware of to the us. i'm not yet aware of biden mentioning far less lamenting the death in a ukrainian prison of us citizen and writer gonzalo lira , who was and writer gonzalo lira, who was critical of the zelenskyy regime. biden's administration . regime. biden's administration. has sought determinedly to jail his and their strongest and most popular opponent, donald trump. and yet , in popular opponent, donald trump. and yet, in the popular opponent, donald trump. and yet , in the immediate and yet, in the immediate aftermath of navalny's death , aftermath of navalny's death, biden highlighted vladimir putin's attempts to stamp putin's death attempts to stamp out the opposition zelenskyy , out the opposition zelenskyy, propped up only by western cash , propped up only by western cash, has crushed his own political opponents as well. the pattern seems clear bleat about enemies threatening democracy while simultaneously and blatantly and hypocritically seeking to trample on democracy at home or turn a blind eye to the same being carried out by allies, or make that business partners a legitimate president of ukraine was overthrown by a us led coup in 2014. in the early stages of the russia—ukraine war, as early as april 2022, a peace deal was

on the table until former british prime minister boris johnson was dispatched by nato to scupper that deal. now half a million ukraine men and boys are dead.the million ukraine men and boys are dead. the war goes on relentlessly and a us administration is seeking to undermine democracy so that a multi—billion dollar war might gnnd multi—billion dollar war might grind on with no end in sight. here in the uk , our own home here in the uk, our own home grown brand of war mongers are banging the drums and rattling the sabres. defence secretary grant shapps has warned that uk is adapting to a pre—war world. former minister tobias ellwood has declared there is a 1939 feel to the world, and that britain is not prepared all of that was before retiring. army chief general sir patrick sanders, advocate , said the sanders, advocate, said the training of a citizen army in readiness for a future land war. ukraine has used up its available generations of men and boys. available generations of men and boys . now, those ukrainians who boys. now, those ukrainians who absented themselves from the country in advance of the fighting face the possibility if new legislation is passed there, of having to return to fight or

face the seizure of their bank accounts and other assets, maybe those men will return and maybe they won't . in any event, they they won't. in any event, they won't be enough to satisfy a meat grinder that is being future proofed against the possible of its ever running out of steam. who sent next? of steam. who will be sent next? whose sons will be cannon fodder in ukraine? my sons. your sons ? in ukraine? my sons. your sons? as the second world war played out, it wasn't equipment that was in short supply. the military industrial complex had production well in hand. there was end of brand new was no end of brand new spitfires hurricanes . what spitfires and hurricanes. what was in worryingly short supply was in worryingly short supply was the men and boys fit to fly them. it takes an unavoidable minimum of 16 years to grow a boy to the point where he might become a soldier and all those years are spent in moments by the ghouls who see only pounds and dollar signs smeared . lee and dollar signs smeared. lee butler knew how the war racket might be smashed. he said. number the removal of number one was the removal of profit war, and also that profit from war, and also that military forces should be limited defence of the limited to defence of the homeland. there are only two reasons why you should ever be

asked your youngsters, asked to give your youngsters, he one is defence of our he said. one is defence of our homes, other is the defence homes, the other is the defence of rights and of our bill of rights and particularly right to particularly the right to worship god as we see fit. every other reason advanced for the murder men racket, murder of young men is a racket, pure simple . blatant is pure and simple. how blatant is it here in the uk and on the other side of the atlantic in the that precious little the us, that precious little care is being taken of the homeland, and both cases the homeland, and in both cases the borders . that ought to be borders. that ought surely to be a for our governments. borders. that ought surely to be a fighting our governments. borders. that ought surely to be a fighting menjovernments. borders. that ought surely to be a fighting men arernments. borders. that ought surely to be a fighting men are leftents. and fighting men are left undefended face of the undefended in the face of the arrival of uncounted numbers of strangers arriving day and night . here and in the us, the cities are filled with more and more crime, more and more violence meted out upon citizens of the first world war. smedley wrote . first world war. smedley wrote. beautiful ideals were painted for our boys who were sent out to die. this was the war to end all wars. this was the war to make the world safe for democracy. one told them that democracy. no one told them that dollars cents were real dollars and cents were the real reason. them reason. no one mentioned to them as marched away that their as they marched away that their going and their dying would mean huge no one told huge war profits. no one told those american soldiers that they shot down by

they might be shot down by bullets made by their own brothers. here, no told them brothers. here, no one told them that the ships on which they were going the sea were going to cross the sea might torpedoed by submarines might be torpedoed by submarines built with united states patents. were just told it patents. they were just told it was to glorious adventure. was to be a glorious adventure. our leaders here and in the us talk a good game about how concerned , concerned they are concerned, concerned they are about the death toll of civilians in gaza . tens of civilians in gaza. tens of thousands women and children thousands of women and children among them. still the among them. but still the profitable bombs and bullets fly in the there the coffers of in the sky. there the coffers of the same few grow more bloated. yet say we must swim clear of yet i say we must swim clear of the warmongers who make blood money in our name . the horrors money in our name. the horrors of the 20th century were supposed to serve as unforgettable lessons , but unforgettable lessons, but there's precious little sign that of anything was that much of anything was learned. talk of a citizen army reeks the rhetoric of 1915 reeks of the rhetoric of 1915 and kitchener that led to the horror of the somme, where 60,000 british men fell in a single day, nearly 20,000 rendered into butchered meat. i don't believe the majority of mothers and fathers here or in the us or in russia for that

matter, want to see their sons and daughters condemned to die in a third world war. here's the thing war is a racket. the oldest , the most profitable, the oldest, the most profitable, the most vicious . we see the most vicious. we see the racketeers, the pentagon cannot even pass an audit to explain where all those billions of dollars actually go. how precisely they are spent, and yet always the call is for more. while joe biden ramped up the anti—russian rhetoric in the wake of navalny's death on this side of the pond, zelenskyy addressed a gathering of security and foreign policy officials the annual munich officials at the annual munich security conference , where yet security conference, where yet more deals were surely struck to oil wheels of the meat oil the wheels of the meat gnnder. oil the wheels of the meat grinder. here we are with a forever war, potentially future proofed against any of its proofed against any end of its funding, democracy is funding, where democracy is sidestepped home by those who sidestepped at home by those who would sons to die in would send our sons to die in the hollow name of democracy abroad . in any there's no abroad. in any event, there's no talk of peace, only war. it talk of peace, only of war. it really is a racket. the only meaningful question is this how long will we submit to a world run by racketeers and gangsters ? run by racketeers and gangsters? as . greg swenson joining

as. greg swenson joining me from republicans overseas . thank you republicans overseas. thank you for being here. good to be here, neal for being here. good to be here, neal. where are we with democracy in the west, in the united states of america, when an administration is seeking to tie the hands of presidents who have not yet been set into the oval office. >> yeah, it's pretty outrageous. they claim to be defending democracy . in fact, in 2022, in democracy. in fact, in 2022, in the midterms , they ran on that the midterms, they ran on that theme. you know, we're we're we're the defenders of democracy and the republicans or the, the people on the right want to take away your rights and your it's just all garbage . it's all just all garbage. it's all rubbish. right? you know, the biden administration is using every undemocratic method , every every undemocratic method, every unconstitutional method to, to defeat their opponents. and in this case, they're trying to put their likely presidential opponent in jail or fine him to

death. >> and when, when it seems it doesn't matter, even when you call out blatant hypocrisy , you call out blatant hypocrisy, you know, hillary clinton challenged, you know , putin challenged, you know, putin about jailing opposition, right? joe biden this week, in the aftermath of navalny is saying much the same when at the same time , they've moved heaven and time, they've moved heaven and earth to try to jail their opponents. >> yeah, they're doing they're they're weaponizing the justice system and make no mistake, this is biden's justice department. there rogue there is there aren't rogue prosecutors going after prosecutors that are going after trump . this is all with the trump. this is all with the blessing of biden and his administration . a lot of this administration. a lot of this stuff, and they're using not just lawyers and the just the lawyers and the prosecutors, but they're using the entire justice system, the fbi, the cia, you know, great example was was when they orchestrated the russia collusion hoax. that was you know, definitely if not initiated by but at least supported by jake sullivan, who's now national security advisor for biden. the the effort to fraudulently put

together this letter by the 51 former intelligence officials is complete hoax. that was to defeat and censor the new york post and the russia. i mean the hunter biden laptop story , which hunter biden laptop story, which of course, they ultimately all admitted was true. but that was that was led by anthony blinken, who's now the secretary of state. so this is a this is really coming from the top down. the organisations that are supposed to be enforcing the law. and protecting americans are censoring the very the very media that should be doing their job. >> isn't the time coming when someone has to stand up for morality itself. we need we need to be reminded to remember and to be reminded to remember and to hear spoken about the basic values of the of the rule of law , that no one is above the law, including presidents and kings and the rest . yeah. when is and the rest. yeah. when is someone going to speak up for that morality? and it's become so tribal and so partisan that the democrats and especially biden run with that all the

time. >> no one is above the law. trump can't break these laws and get away with it, when in fact there's a major protection racket going on not only to protect hunter biden , which has protect hunter biden, which has been a scandal the way that been a real scandal the way that they've done that, but also they're protecting joe biden. you know, biden was clearly you know, joe biden was clearly benefiting the payments benefiting from the payments coming from ukraine, coming from china, from ukraine, from romania and from russia by the we're going into the way, that we're going into the way, that we're going into the initially into the bank account hunter biden jim account of hunter biden and jim biden, ultimately flowing to biden, but ultimately flowing to joe biden. bank records don't lie. >> what did you make of that, joe that joe biden joe judgement that joe biden could not be tried in relation to those documents that left the white house? yeah, because he was because he was a frail old man who didn't have a memory. and yet he is simultaneously the man who sits with his finger on the nuclear trigger. >> that's right. and you >> that's right. and so you can't both right. you have can't be both right. you have to. one or other. you to. it's one or the other. you can't be unfit to stand trial, but also. and then be fit to be president have, you know, president and to have, you know, have and so that was have the codes. and so that was a outrageous that was a pretty outrageous that was

only wednesday or thursday. only last wednesday or thursday. and came robert hur, and it came from robert hur, who's republican, but who's yes, is a republican, but it not hyper partisan. and he it not a hyper partisan. and he was hired by the justice department of joe biden . right. department of joe biden. right. so, you know, this is and by the way, that report was released only because mayorkas , the only because mayorkas, the attorney general, decided to have it released. so they didn't have it released. so they didn't have to release the report. they could have just said, you know, we're not going to we're not going indict president biden. going to indict president biden. but i think that what's clear in the was that he did break the report was that he did break the report was that he did break the rules. he did wilfully keep documents, you know, hidden tool to stand trial. >> but not too old and frail and lacking in memory. >> he should have just said thank you to robert hur. and you know, instead moved on. >> yeah, we're onto the first break, after which , with looming break, after which, with looming possibility of nuclear war seeming growing closer every day, what can the west expect for its military in the coming months? i'll be joined by american colonel douglas macgregor to consider the possibilities .

you're listening to gb news radio . radio. >> welcome back. my your money for ukraine. more money for zelenskyy's regime . the death of zelenskyy's regime. the death of navalny . all of it seems to be navalny. all of it seems to be nudging us one in direction and one direction to only consider all of that. i'm joined now by retired us colonel and political commentator douglas macgregor. are you there, colonel ? are you there, colonel? >> yes, i am, thanks . >> yes, i am, thanks. >> great. great to have you with us once again. um the forever. war in ukraine. uh, more rhetoric after navalny. is there any way out of this war? well we confront two problems. >> one is the what i would call broad disinterest of the american electorate in what happens beyond its borders. it's hard for europeans to understand it. but most, most americans

right now are focussed on the southern border. they're finally waking up to the destructive influence of immigration through these open borders with uncertain consequences for us and our national security inside the united states. that's where americans are focussed. they're not focussed on what's happening in ukraine. and frankly, they never were . we have no vital never were. we have no vital strategic interests in the place. so that's the first problem. secondly down in the middle east, you have the potential for a regional war developing, uh, americans assumed at the beginning that this would be simply another arab—israeli war in which arab forces would be quickly defeated and everything would end well for israel. uh, americans are now beginning to see that that's not true . but again, they see not true. but again, they see war as something that happens in other people's countries. they don't understand that things have changed. war can come to us in many, many different forms , in many, many different forms, is what do you make? >> i'm extremely alarmed by the

mood music of talk of here in the uk of a citizen army and more and more people with access to microphone and to the and to the public space are talking about conscription and gathering together young people . for what? together young people. for what? for what, what do you make of that? is that just empty sabre rattling, or do you think anyone, anywhere is seriously contemplating engaging a citizen army in a land war in europe? >> well, in the early 1900s, in the aftermath of the boer war, there was an effort by the left in britain to form a citizens army . they thought this might be army. they thought this might be army. they thought this might be a means of undoing the class system or eroding its foundations. system or eroding its foundations . you had a prime foundations. you had a prime minister campbell—bannerman, who stopped it dead in its tracks, and you ended up with richard haldane, who created really britain's first professional army since cromwell . i would army since cromwell. i would argue it was a very good army. but campbell—bannerman made it very clear that this was not to

be used on the european continent . it was not designed continent. it was not designed for that. under any circumstances. that that was a war that britons should not fight in. ultimately bannerman dies and you end up with this man, h.h. asquith. dies and you end up with this man, h.h. asquith . and sadly, man, h.h. asquith. and sadly, britain then marches into the first world war without really understanding the consequences . understanding the consequences. you've outlined those very well in your discussion that led up to this point. i can only hope that the british people exercise common sense . i can't imagine common sense. i can't imagine the scots signing up for it. after all, they took very heavy casualties, disproportionate casualties. so did the irish. uh, i don't know what what people in britain thinks, but the notion that a citizen soldier army should be raised . soldier army should be raised. and sent east to fight in eastern europe is preposterous, especially since there's no threat from russia. this is utter nonsense . it's a huge lie. utter nonsense. it's a huge lie. >> greg swenson , at least, at >> greg swenson, at least, at least . in >> greg swenson, at least, at least. in those >> greg swenson, at least, at least . in those decades of the

least. in those decades of the early part of the 20th century that the colonel was talking about, there was general unawareness, ignorance of what would consequences of would be the consequences of involving in involving people in industrialised warfare. but it's 100 they're still 100 years later, they're still possible. is there possible. excuse is there for suggesting you commit suggesting that you would commit a anywhere on the a citizen army anywhere on the european mainland. >> imagine what my >> i can't imagine what my grandfather was thinking when he was 18 years old and was sent to france to fight in the great war. i mean, they had no idea what was going europe. it what was going on in europe. it was such a foreign topic. was it was such a foreign topic. and douglas brings up a great point. any sort point. the us has any any sort of us commitment to ukraine has to be looked at in the context of the open border that we have the ten plus million illegal auens the ten plus million illegal aliens that are coming in. what are doing in the country? are they doing in the country? why chinese through? why are chinese coming through? why are chinese coming through? why are chinese coming through? why are there military aged why why are there military aged men infiltrating so men infiltrating our country? so that's he's got a great point. that's what people care about. and yes , there are. they and yes, there are. they probably would there would be a majority republican . majority of republican. congressmen that would vote for

the support, but not without not while ignoring what's going on in our own country. >> colonel, what greg swenson is, is saying there, um, more and more we hear from from nato, the that only get to the notion that you only get to peace war, which sounds peace through war, which sounds alarmingly . where alarmingly orwellian. uh, where are calm heads ? where are are the calm heads? where are the are the grown ups in the where are the grown ups in the where are the grown ups in the room in washington, in westminster ? to bring back westminster? to bring back diplomacy and surely the urgency for peace ? for peace? >> well, there are probably two groups of people , one, those who groups of people, one, those who are simply, simply bought and paid for. i mean , the numbers of paid for. i mean, the numbers of members of congress in the united states who receive enormous subsidies via political action committees for supporting whatever israel wants , uh, is whatever israel wants, uh, is enormous. then you have to look at the people that are profiting from their commitments to the military, industrial, congressional complex. by the way, when eisenhower penned his, uh , speech, he did not say uh, speech, he did not say military industrial complex. he said military, industrial,

congressional complex. and he was advised , well, if you bring was advised, well, if you bring this up, you'll make more enemies in congress. we still have to get legislation through. so he backed away from that, which is unfortunate because it's much part of the it's very much part of the problem . we've lot of problem. we've got a lot of people simply profiting . and problem. we've got a lot of peopyou mply profiting . and problem. we've got a lot of peopyou have profiting . and problem. we've got a lot of peopyou have another| . and problem. we've got a lot of peopyou have another group that then you have another group that is in the in the category of believing that they can beat their chests, make outrageous statements without consequences . statements without consequences. as i know that sounds odd , but as i know that sounds odd, but when you listen to people in the senate like lindsey graham and others , they say outrageous others, they say outrageous things , but they don't think things, but they don't think anything will happen. it's back to the original assumption that is so widely held, oh, war, that happensin is so widely held, oh, war, that happens in someone else's country. you know, you mentioned nuclear weapons earlier . country. you know, you mentioned nuclear weapons earlier. uh, it's incomprehensible to me that the russians or the chinese would ever consider using nuclear weapons . would ever consider using nuclear weapons. i would ever consider using nuclear weapons . i see no nuclear weapons. i see no evidence for it. i don't think in most cases we would , except in most cases we would, except we have foolish people talking about placing missiles in northern finland and northern

sweden with nuclear warheads on them that could threaten russia . them that could threaten russia. that's that could change everything . so, uh, the russians everything. so, uh, the russians will have to respond to that. that's insane . but again, there that's insane. but again, there doesn't seem to be any any real understanding of the gravity of these decisions , what they these decisions, what they really mean. so we're led by fools, knaves . let me go back fools, knaves. let me go back and see if i can find cromwell's speech to parliament. i can't remember it all, but that pretty much sums up our our congress right now. >> it's very alarming, colonel, to hear a man of urich's experience in matters military going back over decades talking this way. you know, it really does sound as though, uh, diplomacy is nowhere near as peace undesired. and we've got a military industrial complex out of control . well, is that really of control. well, is that really where we are ? where we are? >> much of it is also fuelled by a combination of ignorance and arrogance. there's a failure to understand that we don't live in

the world of 1991 or 92 any longer, when we were arguably the last man standing, we had these enormous conventional forces , uh, a very effective and forces, uh, a very effective and powerful economy that had not yet been completely, uh, exported elsewhere . uh, that's exported elsewhere. uh, that's gone those those capabilities are gone. our forces are in ruins, just as yours are. uh, we're in no position to fight a major war, but people on the hill don't seem to understand that. hill don't seem to understand that . and again, they may be that. and again, they may be completely ignorant of what you're discussing . you know, i you're discussing. you know, i grew up with ukrainians and numbers of poles in lithuanians. i know them, but most people on the hill have no idea what they're dealing with. they don't know history . remember what know the history. remember what henry american . henry ford said? that american. uh, regard all history as bunk. unfortunately that's a serious problem in the united states . we problem in the united states. we just don't know the importance of history, culture, language, all of these things . ethnicity. all of these things. ethnicity. we dismiss everything out of hand. why? we're america, we're

the new experiment. we're the. we're the image of everything. everyone in the world wants to become. no, we're not. our values are not universal. all our interests are divorced from reality. this is the problem. >> colonel douglas macgregor has. once again, i have to say, you have alarmed me . you. you do you have alarmed me. you. you do not set my. you do not set my mind at rest at all. but it's so important to listen to what you have to say. i hope we can pick up this conversation at some point in the not too distant future. thank you for your contribution tonight. >> thank you. neal. bye bye. >> thank you. neal. bye bye. >> it's another break. i'm afraid. after which , uh, afraid. uh, after which, uh, well, with a record half a million people crossing into nonh million people crossing into north america via the darien gap, just what is going on, and will the us ever get a grip on its migration crisis? does it even want to? renowned war reporter michael yon joins me

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listening to gb news radio. >> welcome back to neil oliver live. now we hear a lot about the migration crisis here at home. but in the us, something much larger is happening. record half a million people will cross through the darien gap. last year , apparently. can the us get year, apparently. can the us get a grip on that situation? i'm joined now by renowned correspon and us army veteran michael yon. michael, are you there ? michael, are you there? >> yes, sir. i am in darien province right now . i heard you province right now. i heard you mention, uh, sir general patrick sanders before . i'm very curious sanders before. i'm very curious on your thoughts on that. by the way, i was in combat with him in iraq with the royal green jackets, and then i was with the royal green jackets again in afghanistan. you know, this whole citizen army thing is quite for me. know quite concerning for me. i know where this leads. i am darien where this leads. i am in darien right now . i'm in darien right now. i'm in darien province. you hear buses behind right now. i'm in darien provsome'ou hear buses behind right now. i'm in darien provsome of hear buses behind right now. i'm in darien provsome of these 3uses behind right now. i'm in darien provsome of these arees behind right now. i'm in darien provsome of these are filledind me. some of these are filled with chinese others. uh, with chinese and others. uh, this is china camp. i'm going to walk out a little bit away from this soon. hopefully this building soon. hopefully the, the video will hold up, the, uh, the video will hold up, but , uh,

the, uh, the video will hold up, but, uh, yeah, but by the, uh, the video will hold up, but , uh, yeah, but by the way, but, uh, yeah, but by the way, danen but, uh, yeah, but by the way, darien , afghanistan, uh, darien, afghanistan, uh, panama's like the afghanistan for europe, i mean, scotland basically got killed trying to cross, uh, the darien. you probably heard of the darien scheme, which led to the or well, contributed to the articles of union. right. what was that? 1707 and, uh , what was was that? 1707 and, uh, what was your articles of union for scotland? and, uh, you know, because , uh, scotland, uh, because, uh, scotland, uh, started their , uh, darien scheme started their, uh, darien scheme down in the, uh, in, uh, sorry, my camera started the, uh, the danen my camera started the, uh, the darien scheme . it may have been darien scheme. it may have been in, what, 1698 or so? anyway, it bankrupted scotland. and this is a treacherous place, but. right now, go ahead, sir. mike what are you. >> what are you seeing? there i was i was joined , uh, last week was i was joined, uh, last week by brett weinstein . we talked by brett weinstein. we talked about the scale of the number of people that are moving through the darien gap. how do you interpret what you're seeing? what is the explanation for the united states of america allowing this to happen .

allowing this to happen. >> it's war. obvious war. right. uh i mean, it's a hybrid war. he's right here. are aliens coming? brett weinstein was right here. i had him here last month. right? right down here is, uh, what we call china camp. it's filled with chinese right now. just saw a bus full of chinese in. there's also chinese come in. there's also venezuelans and others come through, uh, syrians, people from hezbollah literally come down holac they know down here. holac they know they've done this on venezuela. all right. there's some venezuelans and, uh, right . venezuelans and, uh, right. >> you see, michael, you see a war. what kind of war? >> well, part of it part of it is, uh, well , >> well, part of it part of it is, uh, well, weaponized migration clearly , as you see, migration clearly, as you see, this is highway one here. there heading to highway one. as you can see, that's highway one that goes to the united states right there, right . so here, here they there, right. so here, here they go. so they are free to come and go. so they are free to come and go. you see these buses over here? uh actually, if i could walk down further, but i'll lose signal. uh, but these buses down the road down here are lined up.

they go, they go. night and day to take people to the united states. so the people that come that survive the darien gap, which most of the chinese do survive because they pay a lot more money to come. uh, and, and so they're coming through and, uh, through tens of thousands uh, through in tens of thousands per know, highest is per month. you know, highest is right end of this right down at the end of this road, by the way. so about 150 yards me, 200 yards from me yards from me, 200 yards from me is china camp highest is the is the uh, hebrew immigrant the is the, uh, hebrew immigrant aid society. and those are aid society. uh, and those are the actually . a jewish group the actually. a jewish group that actually, uh, the secretary of homeland security, alex mayorkas, was a board member on hias, right? he may aukus himself was a, uh, was a refugee from cuba. right. a jewish parents. so he was a board member on hias and highest right here in is actually helping to fund hezbollah coming right down this road. the guys from venezuela, many of there's a huge amount of hezbollah, venezuela , a lot of people don't

venezuela, a lot of people don't realise that. i'm not saying they are, but i'm saying that there's a huge amount there. there's a place in lebanon, there's a village lebanon there's a village in lebanon where spanish because where they speak spanish because they've from places they've come back from places like and colombia. like panama and colombia. >> go ahead, michael, i'm going to run out of time to i'm going to run out of time with i've with you. however, while i've still well, is there still got you. well, is there any possibility of america responding to this unofficially? by responding to this unofficially? by which i mean , are we going to by which i mean, are we going to are we approaching a point where there could be civil war in the united states of america, or could we see states seceding from the union to try and protect themselves from what you're weaponized you're calling weaponized migration ? migration? >> uh, the united states is doing this. i mean, i hear americans all the time saying, you know, we should we should punish cuba or or, uh, not cuba, but, uh, sorry, panama or colombia or or mexico or whatever. i'm telling you, 100% factual. the united states is the prime mover of this invasion . right. and the chances of civil war in the united states. i returned to the united states in 2020. i just spent the previous almost 20 years

overseas. most of my life has been overseas, actually, at and, and i realised the united states was going civil war. that was going into civil war. that is i returned, right? i was is why i returned, right? i was just in texas few ago. just in texas a few days ago. i left texas to come back down to the gap. i went to texas the darien gap. i went to texas due to the same situation. i'm often texas. i'm often . i've often in texas. i'm often. i've been. been across the been. i've been across the entire border from space on entire us border from space on one end to san diego on the other. so i mean, i know that border quite well. i know i go to europe, i look at the same things in netherlands and greece and morocco down there, lithuania . i watch this lithuania. i watch this everywhere. i go around the world looking at these things, including japan. a lot of people think that would never happen to japanese, because they would never would never allow that, and they would be japan falling under be wrong. japan is falling under the information the exact same information campaign and the main engine of the of the migration of the weaponized migration, by the way, is iom , the international way, is iom, the international organisation for migration. they're in this camp right now. right. the iom is a huge

organisation . that's the main organisation. that's the main engine of the invasion . the engine of the invasion. the number one funder is the united states number two is germany, number three is canada. and i can go on for hours. i know you don't have that much time. and i'm actually going to go into the camps, but thank you for having me on neal. >> michael, thank you so much for contribution. for your contribution. this evening. we'll pick this up again as soon as we possibly can. but thank you for tonight. another after which another break, after which i will be joined by ungar, will be joined by batya ungar, sargon, contemplate how the sargon, to contemplate how the united states has become so infected with the toxins of wokery. don't go

welcome back to neil oliver. live in the break. i learned that we have lost contact with my proposed guest . that we have lost contact with my proposed guest. but in his inimitable fashion , assistant inimitable fashion, assistant professor of political science at webster vienna university, ralph schollhammer is going to throw himself into the into the breach . he's not quite with me

breach. he's not quite with me yet, so coming to you at the moment, greg, this this sickness of wokery and this in sargon's latest works , she has suggested latest works, she has suggested that the working class and the middle classes in america have been abandoned, that nobody is speaking for them except donald trump. they're getting robbed of their of their agency. >> and so this started with the tea party. it actually started before trump. the tea party came about after obama took over in 2009 with just reckless spending by the government. and all this , by the government. and all this, you know, bailing out the banks and then the trillion dollar spending spree and people just started looking at each other saying, wait, they're taking my money, and they're giving it to favoured industries . you know, favoured industries. you know, the now it's the climate industry. but, you know, this is outrageous. said, outrageous. and they just said, no representing me anymore outrageous. and they just said, no both representing me anymore outrageous. and they just said, no both parties,3nting me anymore outrageous. and they just said, no both parties, by ng me anymore outrageous. and they just said, no both parties, by the ne anymore outrageous. and they just said, no both parties, by the way, lymore outrageous. and they just said, no both parties, by the way, not)re in both parties, by the way, not just the democrats. >> democrats traditionally were the where the party of the working people, the working man, the and anything ,

the union guys, and if anything, isuppose the union guys, and if anything, i suppose in days gone by, the republican party were the kind of ivy league elites, right, that were were portrayed as that were that were portrayed as not along not caring. but somewhere along the line that that flipped anyway. the republicans anyway. so the republicans became the working people. >> that's right. and it's happened the 15 years, happened in the last 15 years, again, starting with the tea party, now democrats party, so that now the democrats become party the elite, become the party of the elite, the university is the media, the government bureaucracy, government and the bureaucracy, especially . and so the especially. and so the republicans have started to really look after working people. and i think it's understandable that working people are frustrated with with the old country club republicans , which didn't really represent them , but also democrats, them, but also the democrats, who are now the party of the ivy league and the policies that they endorse these ivy league elites that work in government, media, universities don't that benefit the working people. in fact , it benefit the working people. in fact, it penalises working people . and that's why trump was people. and that's why trump was so successful in appealing to them. >> who benefits a long terme from marginalising so many people in the us? the working

class ? the middle class? yeah. class? the middle class? yeah. how can you isolate silence and marginalise all of those tens of millions of people? it's not face. it's brilliant. >> i'm not advocating it. but the democrats have been smart about it. for every worker that they're losing, every union represent , you know, every every represent, you know, every every union member that they've lost, they pick up two men or women in they pick up two men or women in the suburbs, but they like to say the suburban women vote because what one of their because that's what one of their identity groups that they're dependent the dependent on right now. and the suburbs used to be suburbs in america used to be reliable republican ground . and reliable republican ground. and it's not to suggest that all suburbanites have flipped to democrats , but it used to be 70 democrats, but it used to be 70 over so if it goes to 50, 50 over 30. so if it goes to 50, 50 or even anywhere close to that, then they can rely on the minority groups. the other identity groups that the democrats are completely dependent they can live dependent on. they can live without working class without the working class because they have they have the minority groups, they have the ivy league elite. it's a bet that they're making. and then you have 22 million illegal

migrants in the country. um, ten that have been there for quite some time and other 11 that biden has purposely let in. this could ultimately lead to a, you know, a permanent one party state. you know, that that will be dependent on illegal migrants. they're going to vote democrat. they're, you know, at least for a generation, maybe two. and so it's a bet. i hope it doesn't work, but it's worked out quite well. the last few elections . elections. >> how do these marginalised groups use. and it is tens of millions of people. how do they reclaim their voice if in many respects neither read nor blue are are properly representing them? where do they go for voice? >> i think that's what's changed in the republican party. and you know, again, it was the country club , republican party and club, republican party and i thought reagan did a great job of appealing to the working class. it was the so—called reagan democrats in 1980 and 1984. they stuck around a little bit in 1988, but then ultimately

moved back to the democrats. so there's hope that ralph, ralph , there's hope that ralph, ralph, you're joining me now, hero of the hour. >> stepping into the breach . >> stepping into the breach. hey, ralph. >> good to be with you. good to be with you. >> i don't know if what, if anything, you've been able to hear of the conversation i've been with but been having with greg, but suffice to say that the working class classes in class and the middle classes in america marginalised , america have been marginalised, and no voice who and they have no voice who benefits from that state of affairs ? if that is the case in affairs? if that is the case in whose benefit is it to set aside all of these working american voters ? voters? >> what i would say the main benefit, of course , is for benefit, of course, is for everyone who, uh, was able to capitalise on the outsourcing of actual manufacturing . i mean, actual manufacturing. i mean, this is the thing, um, we realise more and more that gdp is really no longer a good measure because overall, particularly in the financial sector , huge gains were made. sector, huge gains were made. but the working class lost. and i think this is something we realise we need to find a realise what we need to find a new measure economic

new way to measure economic prosperity . and think we have prosperity. and i think we have to to the conclusion on to come to the conclusion on that. ultimately the financial side is one, but that work that labour gives meaning to life, and i think this is something we don't talk about enough, which is maybe if we produce more at home, it will be more expensive . home, it will be more expensive. absolutely. because labour costs are higher but imagine are higher. but imagine the millions of people that find meaning in their life there will be productive that have be more productive that have maybe to have a maybe a reason than to have a family to found the family, right? it could help with the demographic problem. have demographic problem. we have a psychological issue we to psychological issue we need to address, economic address, not just an economic issue. the one thing, issue. it's the one thing, ironically , where i believe that ironically, where i believe that karl marx was right when he said that the essence of life is laboun that the essence of life is labour, and what he meant by this us engaging with our this is us engaging with our environments, the world environments, changing the world through our labour, like what farmers , right? what miners farmers do, right? what miners do, artisans do. and do, what artisans do. and i think we need to find ways i don't know exactly how we need to get that back . to find ways to get that back. >> anyone speaking up for >> is anyone speaking up for people who want and deserve to

have that meaning in their life? anyone in the news? is there anyone in the united states that's that's standing ready anywhere within sight, ready to pick up that baton and run with it? honestly i don't think so. >> i think we're currently in a situation where the old books are out of date, and the new ones have not yet been written. i mean, even somebody like donald trump, who actually donald trump, who i actually feel sympathy towards, feel a lot of sympathy towards, but the protest vote. he's but he's the protest vote. he's not really the what you talk a lot fully lot about, neil and i fully agree with you. he's not the revolutionary candidate in a sense. i don't think he's sense. like, i don't think he's capable simply because he himself marinated this himself was marinated in this old system to bring the change that would necessary. we that would be necessary. so we need not talking about need and i'm not talking about the bolshevik french the bolshevik or french revolution kind event, revolution style kind of event, but new thinking but we really need new thinking and ideas in this to and new ideas in this era to say, okay, not just about say, okay, it's not just about the financial aspect, it's about the financial aspect, it's about the of the the psychology aspects of the new economy. has to. the psychology aspects of the nevieconomy. has to. the psychology aspects of the nevi just omy. has to. the psychology aspects of the nevi just need has to. the psychology aspects of the nevi just need tos to. the psychology aspects of the nevi just need to jump in. thank >> i just need to jump in. thank you so much for stepping in and picking up with those few minutes speak to you minutes remaining. speak to you again 7:00. is neil again at 7:00. this is neil oliver on tv, online and oliver live on tv, online and on dab plus radio. thanks to all my

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