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hours of big opinion, big debate and big entertainment. it is saturday night. it's raining outside. you've worked hard all week. shall we have some fun and a bit of a debate? i think so lots to get through. mark dolan tonight is your perfect saturday night in? so up the kettle night in? so fire up the kettle or crack open a beer and let's get and start get working. and we start with the headlines and sam the news headlines and sam francis . francis. >> mark, thank you. and good evening from the gb newsroom. it's just gone 9:00 and we start with the latest developments in our top story of the day. the mother critic mother of jailed putin critic alexei navalny, has said that she's not been allowed to see or retrieve his body from the arctic jail, where it's alleged that navalny his team, that he died. navalny his team, say his death was an say that his death was an orchestra murder ordered by vladimir putin. they accused the russian authorities of also purposefully withholding his

body so they can cover their tracks, they say following his death, hundreds of people across russia have been detained for attending memorial events. for navalny. footage here for those watching on television where you can see people being led away by police officers in moscow and being forced into various police vans , that comes as president vans, that comes as president putin faces increasing condemnation from international leaders, including those in the us , the eu and here in the uk. us, the eu and here in the uk. though, the kremlin says the west reaction is unacceptable and they've described it as absolutely rabid, the ukrainian president is also among those who've laid blame on the russian leader, calling putin a thug who he says must be stopped after the murder of alexei navalny. >> it's . absurd to perceive >> it's. absurd to perceive putin as a supposedly legitimate head of a russian state, and he is a thug who maintains power through corruption and violence ,

through corruption and violence, coming to his so—called inauguration, shaking . his hand, inauguration, shaking. his hand, considering him an equal means to disdain the very nature of political power . political power. >> well, in other news today, tens of thousands of protesters have been marching through the irish, the scottish and the engush irish, the scottish and the english capitals in major demonstrations against the war in gaza. in london, some violence did break out between demonstrators and police this afternoon, according to reporters the scene. again if reporters at the scene. again if you're on television, you're watching on television, you're watching on television, you police facing you're watching on television, y0lwith police facing you're watching on television, y0lwith protesters police facing you're watching on television, y0lwith protesters at.ice facing you're watching on television, y0lwith protesters at the facing off with protesters at the marches afternoon. marches this afternoon. we understand i2 marches this afternoon. we understand 12 people were arrested for a string of alleged offences, including hate related placards, assaults on police officers and for refusing to remove face coverings as former labour leader jeremy corbyn was among those addressing the crowds at the now 14th national demonstration, he says there'll be as many protests as. it takes until there's a ceasefire. we've

also learned today that one person has been charged with assisting illegal entry to the uk following the discovery of migrants in the back of a freezer lorry in east sussex yesterday, the home office hasn't named the person they've charged, though it's after an incident was sparked yesterday, prompting responses from prompting large responses from emergency services at new haven's ferry port. six people, we understand were taken to hospital following that incident . police say there were no deaths reported, though, and they are continuing their investigations . a third of small investigations. a third of small boat arrivals since 2018 have taken place while rishi sunak was prime minister that's according to new analysis by the labour party. it comes after 52 people reportedly crossed the channel by small boat yesterday, meaning there's been just over 38,500 arrivals since mr sunak became prime minister. labour says it's proof the government's focus on its rwanda plan isn't enough solve crisis, but enough to solve the crisis, but the government its the government insists its policies are working . it says policies are working. it says with the number of crossings

last year down by more than a third to a year earlier third compared to a year earlier , and finally , farmers in kent , and finally, farmers in kent have been taking a stand against cheap imports by blockading a tesco supermarket with around 20 tractors. they've been protesting to highlight what they fear could be a threat to britain's food security . we, the britain's food security. we, the british farmers, say they can't compete with cheap foreign imports and they say unless something done, there's something is done, there's a risk of empty supermarket shelves . in risk of empty supermarket shelves. in for risk of empty supermarket shelves . in for the latest shelves. in for the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen . or, of code on your screen. or, of course, go to our website gbnews.com. forward slash alerts i >> -- >> thanks, m >> thanks, sam. we'll see you in an hour. welcome to mark dolan tonight. in my opinion, prince harry is considering taking american citizenship. my reaction in just a moment. you won't want to miss it in the big story. should richard tice do a deal with rishi sunak to keep

labour out of power? i'll be asking top lawyer and former tory mp jerry hayes, my mark meets guest is the prison governor who had to deal with myra hindley and rose west. vanessa frake had one of the most dangerous jobs in britain, and she tells her extraordinary story shortly in my take at ten, friends say that the late radio legend steve wright died of a broken heart after losing his iconic radio two show, which he presented for 23 years. the bbc's treatment of this national treasure is a national scandal. donald trump gets stung for almost half $1 billion by a top us court, so is the presidential hopeful about to run out of money? plus as the king battles ill health, the duke of sussex offers to help out the royal family in a temporary role . so family in a temporary role. so could prince harry be a useful tool? i'll be asking the queen of american showbiz, royal and political reporting kinsey schofield plus . plus we've got

schofield plus. plus we've got tomorrow's front pages at 1030 sharp with three top pundits who don't follow the script and they don't follow the script and they do not follow any narratives. author and broadcaster doctor lisa mckenzie, former bbc radio dj mike read and ex—executive editor of the news of the world neil wallace . also tonight , as neil wallace. also tonight, as it's revealed that dentists are now being accepted from overseas without doing an entrance exam , without doing an entrance exam, we'll be joined by a top celebrity dentist who is sick to the back teeth of this latest nhs scandal. plus the most important part of the show your emails. they come straight to my laptop market gb news. com and this show has a strict golden rule we don't do boring. not on my watch. i just won't have it. so a big two hours to come. your perfect saturday night in. let's start with my big opinion . start with my big opinion. >> oh no. say it isn't so. >> prince harry, the world's

least happy millionaire , has least happy millionaire, has told good morning america on the us tv channel abc that he has considered getting us citizenship now . many people citizenship now. many people have reacted in horror at this news, considering that to be the final insult to his country of birth. but i'd say it's quite the opposite. it's refreshingly honest from the king's son, and i think he should go for it with the tell all book. spare the gossipy podcasts, and that interview with oprah winfrey in which he threw his family and his country under the bus. prince harry has already turned his back on the united kingdom. he's made his bed and i think it's a tremendous idea that he should lie in it as america. you are welcome to have him now. it's hard to be sure who exactly was behind the original move to the united states in what became known as megxit, but it wouldn't take a genius to work out that his wife, meghan, will have been instrumental, but sometimes i think that meghan gets too hard

a time and has to carry the can for the actions of her moaning. other half. after all, prince harry is a big enough and old enough and ugly enough guy to know the impact that his world privacy tour was going to have on his family and in particular on his family and in particular on his family and in particular on his grandmother. the late , on his grandmother. the late, great queen elizabeth, who , great queen elizabeth, who, whilst alive and battling health issues, had to worry about what his forthcoming book, 'spare' might say about the family and the institution to which she had devoted her life . it was harry devoted her life. it was harry who torched his relationship with william by revealing intimate, personal details about their relationship, including reading a fireside punch up and by allowing his lovely wife catherine to be cast as a less than lovely sister in law. ultimately, it was harry that left britain. it was harry that left britain. it was harry that left his family. harry wrote left britain. it was harry that left his family . harry wrote the left his family. harry wrote the books harry made the tv shows and harry did the podcasts. the

end, which is why i think it's the perfect solution that harry becomes an american. he'd be the biggest british export since the beatles. let it be, harry, and let's see how long the americans will put up with his tired tunes . now, to be fair to will put up with his tired tunes . now, to be fairto harry, . now, to be fair to harry, he'll be putting his money where his mouth is. there's no clearer message that you've had enough of your country than to change nationality and no doubt his partner meghan will be punching the air with joy with the final megxit die cast. harry a us citizen never to return to his homeland. the transaction completes . however, i suspect completes. however, i suspect that there is one factor that's keeping harry and meghan from making this move and renouncing his uk citizenship. those lovely royal titles . because whilst the royal titles. because whilst the couple have railed against stifling . royal protocol and stifling. royal protocol and their terrible treatment at the hands of the royal family they seem strangely keen on hanging

on to the title of duke and duchess of sussex, and i can think of a few million reasons why it is their meal ticket. if harry becomes an american citizen, he'll be forced to lose those titles and with them , the those titles and with them, the status, the prestige and the megabucks deals which is why he'll probably be clinging to on that blue british passport of his for the foreseeable future . his for the foreseeable future. so should he stay or should he go? it's all academic at this stage. it's my view that whatever his nationality, sadly . whatever his nationality, sadly. harry is on a passport to hell . harry is on a passport to hell. do you think that prince harry should become an american citizen? let me know. marc at gbnews.com or get to your emails shortly. but first, my top pundits, author and broadcaster doctor lisa mckenzie , bbc radio doctor lisa mckenzie, bbc radio legend mike reid and the former executive editor of the news of the world, neil wallace . what do the world, neil wallace. what do you think lisa mckenzie should he stay or should he go?

>> well, you know, i've thought this for years and years. >> many years actually, that the royal family would be far more suhed royal family would be far more suited in america than they are here. know, could go to here. you know, they could go to disneyland, they could in disneyland, they could live in the . they're really good the castle. they're really good at waving, uh, that, you know, they i've always actually thought that the royal family, all them, should go to live all of them, should go to live in disneyland , because america in disneyland, because america is built for celebrities, isn't it, lisa? yes it is. and, uh, you know i do. i really care what prince harry does not really do . you know i'm not. you really do. you know i'm not. you know my thoughts on the royals. >> well, you'd rather they didn't exist, wouldn't you? >> well, no, because, you know, there is a choice here. you can do the. know, you can do the do the. you know, you can do the bolshevik could bolshevik basement, or you could do the, uh, disneyland castle. and i would always go for the disneyland castle. uh, you know, i've had many debates in anarchist circles about this, and i've always gone for sending them to america to, you know, let them do lots of waving, all the good stuff that they like to

do. um so, yeah, i agree with you. let him go. and hopefully the others go as well. >> uh, mike creed, it's a dilemma for prince harry, isn't it? >> because he loves america now, his life is there and i think it will probably go down very well stateside. it's a very patrick like country. if he was to be an american citizen, it would make him more popular there, but less popular here. >> yeah, yeah, i think it's a canny plan. um, i think the royals know they're doing . royals know what they're doing. i the plan is that he i think the plan is that he takes citizenship . they get into takes citizenship. they get into the white house the pair of them, and then undo all the wrong that lord north and george ii did back in the day. we reclaim , um, the states, uh, reclaim, um, the states, uh, make it a colony again. and as we did back in the day, virginia , we named that pennsylvania . so , we named that pennsylvania. so arizona , i think, will be rather arizona, i think, will be rather good. we could give them arizona, and they could live there. >> i love that idea. so prince harry is the ultimate trojan horse. let's take back america .

horse. let's take back america. although these days i'm not sure i'd want it . listen, neil i'd want it. listen, neil wallace, what do you think about this story? the queen, of course, queen elizabeth ii, harry's late great grandmother, would be horrified at the idea that her grandson should become an american. >> well , i an american. >> well, i think, um, that is true. pardon me. i'm with mike. actually, i think mike's got it pretty well taped there . um, pretty well taped there. um, where harry's concerned. get rid of bad rubbish. basically uh, he's done damage to this country . i think their shtick will run out very quickly in america . i out very quickly in america. i think this is just another attempt to try to reinvent himself . uh, attempt to try to reinvent himself. uh, is britain going to suffer from losing him? i don't believe so. i think he's done damage to his father, to his brother, to his sister in law , brother, to his sister in law, to his aunties . brother, to his sister in law, to his aunties. um, he's just a whingeing , whining, wailing, um, whingeing, whining, wailing, um, pain in the nether regions and

i'd get rid, i'd take it off him. actually, i'd take the royal title off him and not give him the opportunity. >> your reaction mark, at gb news.com . news.com. >> more on this at 1015 with kinsey schofield and the queen of us showbiz , royal and of us showbiz, royal and political reporting . but next up political reporting. but next up in the big story should richard tice do a deal with rishi sunak to keep labour out of power , to keep labour out of power, i'll be asking top lawyer and former tory mp jerry hayes

>> you're listening to gb news radio . should radio. should. uh should i should get my teeth . back in the should get my teeth. back in the duke of sussex. >> should prince harry become an american . citizen? that's american. citizen? that's something we're debating. it's the response to my big opinion. and this from jan who says,

yeah, mark. absolutely. he should become an american citizen. very clear about that. uh, roman says . let's just get uh, roman says. let's just get rid of harry. just go. leave us alone. relinquish your title, be alone. relinquish your title, be a man before it is taken off you.thank a man before it is taken off you. thank you for that. uh, keep those emails coming. and perhaps and not least perhaps lastly, and not least from evening. from elizabeth. good evening. elizabeth. for elizabeth. thank you for your email. hi, mark. email. elizabeth says hi, mark. it be doing us all the it would be doing us all the biggest if harry biggest favour if twit harry changed to changed his citizenship to american. come soon american. it can't come soon enough he has trashed enough for me. he has trashed his and he's trashed the his family and he's trashed the uk. think that he his family and he's trashed the uk. to think that he his family and he's trashed the uk. to destroyiink that he his family and he's trashed the uk. to destroy the that he his family and he's trashed the uk. to destroy the monarchy. wants to destroy the monarchy. keep emails market keep those emails coming. market gbnews.com. now it's time for the reform uk the big story and reform uk leader has rejected leader richard tice has rejected the of an election pact the idea of an election pact with rishi sunak, as tories with rishi sunak, as the tories are warned that they face an extinction level event reform achieved their best ever by—election results on thursday, with 13% of the vote in wellingborough and 10% in kingswood . and their leader and kingswood. and their leader and gb news star richard tice quashed. gb news star richard tice quashed . the rumours have been quashed. the rumours have been circulating that he might help out the prime minister by standing down. election

candidate rates in a deal similar to the one agreed between nigel farage and boris johnson in 2019. richard told the telegraph we will not be doing any deals with the tories. we stand everywhere. instead, our intent is to work ever harder over the medium terme to reshape the british political landscape . now this news will landscape. now this news will surely be welcomed by sir keir starmer , the leader of the starmer, the leader of the opposition, which begs the question should richard tice do a deal with rishi sunak to keep labour out of power for to discuss this? i'm delighted to welcome ex—tory mp and a top barrister that will defend any crime. if the price is right. gerry hayes, gerry , how are you? gerry hayes, gerry, how are you? oh not so bad and delighted to see you and good to see neil wallace, who i haven't seen for a very long time. there you go. pair of legends. you both are now, gerry, are you surprised that richard tice has ruled out a deal with prime minister a deal with the prime minister >> there no deal in the >> but there was no deal in the first place. it's a great bit of

pubuchy. first place. it's a great bit of publicity . he rules out publicity. he rules out something that sunak never something that sunak would never have first place. have had in the first place. i mean, let's just look at the figures, okay? wellingborough. we going lose. we knew we were going to lose. we knew we were going to lose. we dodgy mp . uh, next we had a dodgy mp. uh, next thing, reform got 13, which thing, uh reform got 13, which is not bad at all, but in a very low turnout in the highest voting, i think 64% of people voted for . brexit go down to voted for. brexit go down to kingswood again. low turnout. you're looking at 10. uh, look at the recent opinion polls. reform was gone down. interesting thing is that they take away from labour as well . take away from labour as well. so is it in the interests of any party to be in league with reform at the moment the answer is no. however one caveat. what if nigel farage becomes leader of reform ? what if he stands for of reform? what if he stands for a seat which is winnable and then what if he suddenly says you know, i want to join the

conservative party and there is a defeat for the conservatives nafives a defeat for the conservatives natives and people might just say in the tory party, i wouldn't be one of them. although nigel's a friend say he can come and lead us so that is the mix at the moment, indeed. >> but at the moment, as you say, it's a choice, isn't it? between rishi sunak and keir starmer. and if reform and the conservatives are competitive with each other at the election, they will cancel each other out, won't they? >> well, i think the answer well, the answer to the question is, uh, if you vote reform, you're going to get starmer and tories are going to sit around the table and say to themselves very carefully, do we want keir starmer or do we want a tory government? there is no way that reform is going to form a government. it's highly unlikely they'll get a single mp. so what is the point? except for people to make them feel, feel a little bit better, they will feel a hell of a lot worse under keir starmer. so i don't blame richard tice politician. i

suspect who's behind all of this is nigel farage, who's a very shrewd politician. he's pulling the strings , is what nigel's got the strings, is what nigel's got to do is where does he go next? i suspect he will be the next leader of, uh, reform ties , will leader of, uh, reform ties, will be a president, and ben habib will be something else . uh, and will be something else. uh, and he will stand. i'm talking about nigel will stand for parliament. then that's when the tories should get a little bit worried . should get a little bit worried. not about reform, but about nigel farage. >> i see so your speculation is that farage finds a winnable seat. he enters parliament in the aftermath of a tory collapse at the next election, at which point he's in the commons and sitting pretty to lead the party. >> yes. then he makes an application to join the conservative party and the conservative party and the conservative party and the conservative party will say, why not? why not? he'll be a boris johnson with brains.

>> there you go. well listen, you've said that a labour government would be terrible. of course, labour and their supporters argue that the supporters would argue that the tories have made a mess the tories have made a mess of the country for the last 14 years. and it's time for a change. the polls reflect that. polls would reflect that. but, jeremy, my top jeremy, let's bring in my top punst jeremy, let's bring in my top pundits tonight i can. lisa pundits tonight if i can. lisa mckenzie, mike read and neil wallis. and there's a tantalising thought. neil wallis, nigel farage takes over the reform uk party runs for a winnable seat and after the election becomes tory party leader. >> i think that jerry hayes has been reading my notes. i thought his analysis there was absolutely spot on. the problem is this and the thing you didn't mention , jerry, is if the mention, jerry, is if the reforms stand, they will indeed split the vote. the likelihood is, therefore, that that labour will become the biggest party. but will they become big enough

to become the majority party because if they're the minority party, what we know as the most unprincipled politician in this country , keir starmer will do country, keir starmer will do a deal with anybody and everybody, and that deal will all be about, uh, uh, proportional representation . given the danger representation. given the danger of proportional representation, is we will never get a proper leadership in governing party in this country again . and that this country again. and that means you will get a coalition of the left doing what they want to do, which is to run down this country , have endless benefits country, have endless benefits and unemployment, and let anybody in who wants to come in and it will be a disaster for this country . and it will be a disaster for this country. so and it will be a disaster for this country . so although and it will be a disaster for this country. so although i agree with so much of the idea of what jerry said there, there is that danger. you vote reform and you will get a weak starmer and you will get a weak starmer and starmer will sell this

country down the river in a heartbeat . heartbeat. >> uh, lisa mckenzie, what do you think about this dilemma that it faces? richard tice of course, nigel farage did a deal with boris johnson in 2019, which many would argue helped bofis which many would argue helped boris to win that 80 seat majority. he. >> yeah, yeah. i can't. majority. he. >> yeah, yeah. i can't . see that >> yeah, yeah. i can't. see that this is going to happen at all. what has reform got it. they've got nothing. the conservatives have got nothing to offer. reform you know back us up just because we need that's because we need you. that's not good . um i don't think good enough. um i don't think there's anything the tories there's anything that the tories can i even joining in can do. i think even joining in joining alliances with labour party, i think the tories are finished for the next election at least. but i always do understand what party is like reform or brexit or, um , or even reform or brexit or, um, or even the ones on the left . i always the ones on the left. i always understand what they do because , understand what they do because, as you know, while we've got this two party system, um, the only thing you can ever do is

try and influence policy kwasi and also change opinion . and and also change opinion. and actually, you know, i'm not not actually, you know, i'm not not a fan of political parties , but a fan of political parties, but i do recognise , i suppose, what i do recognise, i suppose, what nigel farage did. he changed the conversation in the country and he actually changed the whole , he actually changed the whole, uh, narrative about , about uh, narrative about, about brexit. and so i think with parties like . reform, i think parties like. reform, i think their best chance is to stay where they are, make the argument it's and actually, paul , all the narrative and the debate along with them. >> indeed. what would you do if you were richard tice mike reid . you were richard tice mike reid. yeah, from part from get a haircut and buy a new suit . obviously. >> i think nigel's. obviously. >> i think nigel's . got to step >> i think nigel's. got to step up to the plate and come more to the fore at some point , uh, up to the plate and come more to the fore at some point, uh, for them to really, really . have a

them to really, really. have a chance.i them to really, really. have a chance. i mean, richard's doing well , but i chance. i mean, richard's doing well, but i think nigel needs to be there with with the captain's badge on. i mean, opinions . of badge on. i mean, opinions. of politicians are right across the board at the moment is at an all time low , so people don't trust time low, so people don't trust them , they don't like them, they them, they don't like them, they don't believe them anymore. whichever party it is. and a lot of people are now, they parties . of people are now, they parties. they used to vote for, they really don't know anymore. so are they going to vote for reform because they don't know which party to vote for? um, are you labour going to get in which party to vote for? um, are yotdefault?our going to get in which party to vote for? um, are yotdefault? notgoing to get in which party to vote for? um, are yotdefault? not because get in which party to vote for? um, are yotdefault? not because people by default? not because people want because people want them, but because people maybe don't want the conservative if you conservative lives. so if you get in running the country by default to run default is no way to run a country. um, i can reform, can reform, up the reform, actually step up to the plate a government. but plate and form a government. but i'm that it might i'm not too sure that it might be too late. they've to be too late. they've got to really, really work the treadle to this year. to get that going this year. yeah. uh, but we're a, we're to get that going this year. yeahreally,�*ut we're a, we're to get that going this year. yeahreally, really re a, we're to get that going this year.

yeahreally, really re place 're in a really, really dire place politically at the moment. >> i've got so >> now jerry hayes i've got so many listeners who many viewers and listeners who admire farage, admire admire nigel farage, they admire richard homeless. there let politically homeless. there let down tories. they've got down by the tories. they've got no labour want no faith in labour and they want reform success. reform uk to be a great success. but understand is but what i don't understand is that party of the right that as a party of the right reform, uk look they are reform, uk look like they are going out the going to dilute out the conservative vote and potentially not just potentially deliver not just five years of labour, but a decade , we don't know . decade, we don't know. >> also, look at two things don't under . estimate george don't under. estimate george galloway right. really don't. now i think he's going to win rochdale next time round. i really do . and then there will really do. and then there will be a groundswell well of opinion. i suspect. i don't know i'm just suspecting that in labour areas where there's a large muslim vote and a large postal vote as well, don't underestimate that . there will underestimate that. there will be shocks for . labour but be shocks for. labour but there's going to be shocks for there's going to be shocks for the snp as well. let's have a look and see what happens in scotland . who's going to fill scotland. who's going to fill the void? because this a the void? because this is a party collapsing. it's

party which is collapsing. it's imploding quite sensibly and rightly on itself. who's going to fill the void? i don't think it's going to be too many lib dems. i don't think it's going to be too many tories. dems. i don't think it's going to be too many tories . there to be too many tories. there might be a few. it's going to be labour that is going to change things quite radically over the political map for britain. gerry thank you so much for sharing a chunk of the show us. chunk of the show with us. >> your saturday night, of course, and look forward to course, and we look forward to seeing friday night seeing you back on friday night live in a couple of weeks time. one question is one quick academic question is that a shirt you're wearing or your pyjamas ? your pyjamas? >> oh well, it's bedtime, isn't it ? it? >> it's of course it's in— >> it's of course it's a it? >> it's of course it's a shirt. >> i'll tell you what, it would work just as well as stripey pyjamas. i'm. i can't unsee that image, gerry, but thank you for joining we'll catch up soon. joining us. we'll catch up soon. there you the casually there you go. the casually outfitted and marvellous jerry hayes. outfitted and marvellous jerry hayes . here are the candidates hayes. here are the candidates standing in the rochdale by—election, as are ali, formerly labour and now independent. mark coleman, independent. mark coleman,

independent simon danczuk reform uk ian donaldson, lib dem paul ellison, conservative. george galloway, workers party of britain michael howarth, independent william howarth, independent. guy otten, green ravin, rodent support sinner, official monster raving loony and david tully , independent. and david tully, independent. coming up, as it's revealed, dentists are now being accepted from overseas without doing an entrance exam, we'll be joined by a top celebrity dentist who is sick the teeth of this is sick to the teeth of this latest nhs scandal. is sick to the teeth of this latest nhs scandal . that's latest nhs scandal. that's dentistry. next

radio. >> welcome back to the show. now, we've been conducting an exclusive mark dolan tonight people's poll. we've been asking should richard tice do a deal with rishi sunak to keep labour out of power? the results are in, and a minority of 47% say yes. a deal should be done, 53% say they no . now at 10:00 in my

say they no. now at 10:00 in my take at ten, i'll be dealing with the bbc and their handling of and their treatment towards the late great steve wright, the radio star who i think should have had a forjob life. but first, big news and foreign dentists are set to be allowed to work in the uk without taking dentists are set to be allowed thualification uk without taking dentists are set to be allowed thualification examthout taking dentists are set to be allowed thualification exam .|out taking dentists are set to be allowed thualification exam . ministers] a qualification exam. ministers are planning to scrap the overseas entrance exam currently required to allow dentists from non—european countries to work in britain. the dentists union has criticised the new plan, however, accused the government of trying to fill a leaky bucket without addressing the real issues . so with 4 in 5 dental issues. so with 4 in 5 dental practices not accepting new patients , is this a smart way of patients, is this a smart way of eliminating red tape and getting people seen, or does it risk cowboy operators endangering patient safety . well, to discuss patient safety. well, to discuss this, i'm delighted to welcome dental to the stars and king of celebrity smiles, renowned harley street dentist doctor

richard marks, doctor richard , richard marks, doctor richard, thank you so much for joining us. >> us. >> thank you . >> thank you. >> thank you. >> first of all, does this entrance exam matter? is it important ? important? >> it is important. important? >> it is important . um, the >> it is important. um, the entrance exam is relatively rigorous and it's a way of kind of standardising anybody who comes in with a degree from from another country and for them to have something that basically makes sure that they have all the skills needed to actually practice this dentistry in the uk . mhm. uk. mhm. >> okay. well, i'm glad to hear it's rigorous. do you think that we can afford to not have it. >> the worry is that whether the standards of the training in all the different countries are up to the standards that they can just come in and start practising straight away so that there is a worry with, with that , um, you know, and um, sometimes there's perhaps shorter courses or perhaps there's ways that people have not been trained, perhaps to the

level that they might have in the uk. and that's a worry . the uk. and that's a worry. >> i mean, the government has said that they want to get rid of which allows it of red tape, which allows it allows who are very allows dentists who are very fully qualified abroad to come and do their work here. and let's be honest, we need the dentists. is this not a national emergency ? kc well, that's one emergency? kc well, that's one thing we do need. >> the dentist. a >> the dentist. there is a shortage of so there shortage of dentists, so there definitely argument for it definitely is an argument for it in that from that point of view . in that from that point of view. um, but it really is a question. is it safe? that's the question. >> yes, of course, that is the question. and are overseas dentists any good? >> i mean, what we say is there's good dentists and bad dentists everywhere. >> so here and abroad here and abroad. so um, but we would say that the training in the uk, you know, um, i trained um, in the university and king's college london in, in uk and it's quite a difficult training. it's quite strict and, you know, put you through a lot. so, um, you know,

that you've kind of come out the other end and are ready to practice. >> i mean, all their countries where the testing seems a little lax because surely not every country has the same high standards that we do . standards that we do. >> it's hard to standardise. that's the main thing. >> and that's the of the exam. >> exactly. that's the point of the exam. >> w- e all the all the >> um, i mean, all the all the overseas dentists that you wouldn't you thought, wouldn't take if you thought, well, with well, i'm not that happy with how romania how turkey do it or romania or anywhere else. >> i think there's also different teaching. um, so here, you know, what they really want to teach is restoring teeth , to teach is restoring teeth, saving teeth, preventative dentistry, and trying to concentrate on those things . and concentrate on those things. and maybe there's different teachings from other countries. maybe they're using different materials that we don't have. and so it's kind of that standardisation that's really important. >> well, indeed. and dentists have different philosophies don't they. and some are really big on instruction or doing extraction fillings that sort of thing. others would, you know, are a little less hands are a little bit less hands on and less, uh, i don't

and a bit less, uh, i don't know, sort of direct in how they would, uh, treat a patient. >> definitely. and, um, kind of treating patients of all different that's really different ages. that's really important. um what how the system actually works. if you're working as part of the nhs system and how dentistry is done, all of those things, you know, um, also like the systems of charting that we use, we use a different systems of charting and measurements for the gums. so all of those things have to be taught . be taught. >> and why, richard, don't we have enough dentists in this country ? country? >> well, the thing is , um, there >> well, the thing is, um, there are qualifying , you know, quite are qualifying, you know, quite are qualifying, you know, quite a few dentists . there's quite a a few dentists. there's quite a few dental universities, but i think it's just that there's such a demand. it's such a huge demand. and um, there's the dental health of the population. also, there's an ageing population, right? you know, they need to be looked after , they need to be looked after, um, sugar intake. that's another thing. >> so are our teeth worse than

they were perhaps 20 years ago? i don't know if they're worse , i don't know if they're worse, but they definitely. >> you know, there's a lot of problems. i don't know if you've seen that one of the main, uh, admissions for hospital is kids for a general anaesthetic having their teeth extracted. you know , their teeth extracted. you know, which we shouldn't really be in that. >> that's a tragedy, isn't it? >> that's a tragedy, isn't it? >> it's really you know, >> it's really awful. you know, and really be in >> it's really awful. you know, and um really be in >> it's really awful. you know, and um , really be in >> it's really awful. you know, and um , situation ally be in >> it's really awful. you know, and um , situation aty be in >> it's really awful. you know, and um , situation at the in that, um, situation at the moment this day and age. you moment in this day and age. you know, if you were the health secretary, would you have an overhaul of how dentistry is donein overhaul of how dentistry is done in this country? >> it need rethink ? >> does it need a rethink? >> does it need a rethink? >> definitely something >> it definitely needs something drastic . you know, it's of drastic. you know, it's one of the problems that's the biggest problems that's reported mps. and um, reported to mps. and um, reported to mps. and um, reported in people's local area that they're really struggling to find a dentist. so i think it needs a lot of attention. it needs a lot of attention. it needs dedicated funding , more, needs dedicated funding, more, more training , more education, more training, more education, perhaps more dental university . perhaps more dental university. >> does the divide between private and nhs work is that well calibrated ? well calibrated? >> and the thing is that, um , >> and the thing is that, um, everyone needs some care. that's

the really important thing. so, you know, we, i would say, you know, everybody believes in the nhs. you know, of course , the nhs. you know, of course, the board. so, you know, an nhs dentistry is really important. you don't want people in pain, people with toothache , people people with toothache, people with cavities . they can't eat with cavities. they can't eat properly, they can't smile. >> well, there you go . >> well, there you go. >> well, there you go. >> well, there you go. >> well, listen, it's fascinating to have you here. i won't ask you to check my molars. all i will tell you is that knowing you were coming in today, morning. that knowing you were coming in tod very morning. that knowing you were coming in tod very good, morning. that knowing you were coming in tod very good, very morning. that knowing you were coming in tod very good, very mornwell >> very good, very good. well done. >> enjoy while it lasts. >> enjoy it while it lasts. >> enjoy it while it lasts. >> you , of course, from >> um, you, of course, from doctor richard. clinic's which is organisation . and my is your organisation. and my thanks for, uh, to the thanks there for, uh, to the dentist, to stars . the king dentist, to the stars. the king of celebrity smiles. renowned harley street dentist, doctor richard . fascinating richard marks. fascinating stuff. now coming up in my take at ten, friends say that the late radio legend steve wright died of a broken heart after losing his iconic radio two show, which he presented for 23 years. the bbc's treatment of this national treasure is a national scandal, and i'll be deaung national scandal, and i'll be dealing with them at 10:00. but

next up, my mark meets guest is the prison governor who had to deal with myra hindley and rose west. vanessa frake had one of the most dangerous jobs in britain, and she tells her extraordinary story

next. coming up in my take at ten, in just 15 minutes time, some friends say that the late radio legend steve wright died of a broken heart after losing his iconic radio two show, which he presented for 23 years. the bbc's treatment of this national treasure is a national scandal. i'll be dealing with them at 10:00, but first, mark meets . 10:00, but first, mark meets. and tonight, during her 27 years in the prison service , vanessa in the prison service, vanessa frake encountered some of the most notorious criminals in modern times, including moors murderer myra hindley and serial killer rose west . she was bitten

killer rose west. she was bitten and punched by violent prisoners, dealt with inmates who embedded razor blades in toothbrushes or made deadly clubs from pool balls stuffed into socks. she even had a plastic bottle filled with human waste thrown at her. but in spite of the daily challenge of incarcerating some of the most dangerous criminals in the country . the job gave her huge country. the job gave her huge satisfaction to the extent that she missed prison life. when eventually retiring. well, her extraordinary story is all recounted in her best selling memoir, the governor, which has won rave reviews and is available now. so vanessa frake , available now. so vanessa frake, welcome to the show. it's . welcome to the show. it's. a very unusual job, isn't it? what attracted you to the idea of working in prisons in the first place? it's >> good evening, mark, and thanks on. um thanks for having me on. um well, that's a that's a really good question. i um, i don't know, i think i wanted to work with people and, uh , the poster with people and, uh, the poster i saw said , um, you two can make

i saw said, um, you two can make a difference. and i thought, well, maybe i can. and, um, the rest, they say, is history. and you definitely made a difference. >> now, of course, it's always fun, vanessa, to meet celebrities, but not when they're myra hindley , who they're myra hindley, who participated in the torture and murder of five children. i think she made you a cup of tea in prison. tell me more . prison. tell me more. >> well, she did. i mean, you know, you you call them celebrity , as i call them celebrity, as i call them prisoners to me , she was no prisoners to me, she was no celebrity. and i certainly wouldn't have even given her the kudos of thinking you know, her thinking. i thought that , um, it thinking. i thought that, um, it happened , uh, she was at cookham happened, uh, she was at cookham wood . um, she was working in wood. um, she was working in their reception , and, uh, we their reception, and, uh, we went there . um, we took a load went there. um, we took a load of prisoners from holloway to cookham wood on transfer and, um, the staff there when we got there said, would you like a cuppa? we all said yes , we were cuppa? we all said yes, we were parched. um, and, uh, they

shouted myra and you know, the photo you've just seen was not what turned up . you know, it was what turned up. you know, it was this little old woman with brown mousy hair, um, a, um , a brown mousy hair, um, a, um, a brown sort of cardigan on with. the elbows were worn through and sort of dirty old sort of shuffling, slippery sort of shoes and, um , like, denim shoes and, um, like, denim skirt. you know, she looked literally nothing like that picture . and of course, picture. and of course, everybody, whenever you say the word myra hindley thinks that that's what she looked like , but that's what she looked like, but she didn't at all. i can assure you. >> uh, rose west is another inmate that you encountered. vanessa she, of course, a serial killer who collaborated with her husband , fred west, in the husband, fred west, in the torture and murder of at least nine young women in the 70s and 80. um, when you're a prison governor or you work in a prison, do you try to put their crimes to the back of your mind? how you how do you separate how do you how do you separate the from what they've the individual from what they've done ? done? >> um, well, i mean, that's

that's an interesting question because i think, you know, if you speak to any kind of emergency service workers, whether that be police , nurses whether that be police, nurses or whatever, you know, they see things on a daily basis that most people don't see in a lifetime . so it's very difficult lifetime. so it's very difficult to, um, to cope with. and of course, you get the gallows humour and you sort of can't , humour and you sort of can't, um, compartmentalise all the issues that you face on a daily basis. and, uh , of course, the basis. and, uh, of course, the problem with that is it comes out at some stage . and with me, out at some stage. and with me, it certainly came out when i wrote the book. i you know, i've absolutely found it very cathartic, but it brought a lot of things out that i thought had been long since, you know, dealt with. um, and i think most, most emergency service workers would say the same . say the same. >> well, indeed, i think that's right . you dealt with it on a right. you dealt with it on a daily basis , but it all came out daily basis, but it all came out once you'd written hired. i mean, how did you manage to live with the daily threat of violence? were you ever afraid?

>> never . violence? were you ever afraid? >> never. i can absolutely say in one word never. and i think if i'd have ever been afraid, i wouldn't have been able to do the job. and i certainly wouldn't have walked, walked into jail and put in into a jail and put myself in that position . because i think, that position. because i think, you know, if you're afraid, you look vulnerable, you act vulnerable and when, vulnerable. and that's when, um, you know, you don't concentrate on on your role. um, but i can absolutely say, you know , i was absolutely say, you know, i was never afraid, apprehensive , never afraid, apprehensive, absolutely wary. most definitely, uh, cynical . definitely, uh, cynical. completely, but never scared. >> well, indeed, i think one inmate feigned sickness. got to, uh, got her into an ambulance and managed to escape for a couple of days. which i know is one your regrets. of course, one of your regrets. of course, it wasn't your fault, but as you said, eyes in said, you've got to have eyes in the your head and be the back of your head and be cynical. did ever find cynical. uh, did you ever find yourself liking the inmates ? yourself liking the inmates? >> um, i, i always had a professional working relationship with prisoners, and i think that that's important to

stress that, you know, i was always taught that there is a line and you are that side, and they are that side, and there's no grey areas. and, um, i was always professional in my role as our most of most of the staff who work in the prison service. you know, it's, um, there are no grey areas. it's clear black and white. >> uh, she'll give you your proper title by the way, vanessa frake harris , m.b.e. honoured frake harris, m.b.e. honoured for your work in this field . for your work in this field. >> um, you've had an amazing career. you've made a big contribution to the inmates and your colleagues . you struggled your colleagues. you struggled with retirement at first, didn't you? did you become institutionalised yourself ? institutionalised yourself? >> oh, without doubt . i think, >> oh, without a doubt. i think, um, impossible not to be. um, it's impossible not to be. you know, i can still get on a bus and count how many bus now and count how many people i, people are on it at lunch. i, you know , i have my i have my you know, i have my i have my lunch day at 12:00 on the lunch every day at 12:00 on the dot, know, completely dot, you know, completely institutionalised. um, yes , i institutionalised. um, yes, i did struggle and i won't i won't lie , you know, i think, you

lie, you know, i think, you know, many people retire know, many people who retire suddenly lose their place in society and think, you know, well, what where is my place? what do i do now ? and i was what do i do now? and i was certainly one of those. and uh, i to work that. and i had to work through that. and the me do that, to the book helped me do that, to be honest. >> prison work. >> vanessa does prison work. >> vanessa does prison work. >> oh, i love that question . um, >> oh, i love that question. um, i think our prison service , as i think our prison service, as is at the moment, needs a complete overhaul. i think , you complete overhaul. i think, you know, focusing on, um, locking people up does not work. we have we lock the most people up in western europe . we have the western europe. we have the worst reoffending rates in western europe . so i think we western europe. so i think we can pretty much say that prison doesn't work in its current form. i think we need to have a stand back, take the politics out of prison and the justice system . um, in order for us to system. um, in order for us to work . through what it is as work. through what it is as a society that we want, do we want to focus on locking people up, or do we want to focus on

stopping crime and sending those that committed crime out that have committed crime out into society to become useful members of that society . and members of that society. and i think, you know . it's very members of that society. and i think, you know. it's very easy for every single political party to say , you know, we want to be to say, you know, we want to be the party of law and order and lock people up. you know, we lock people up. you know, we lock prisoners at the lock up 88,000 prisoners at the moment. they're moment. they look they're looking years looking in another five years to lock . 106,000. that's . 50, lock over. 106,000. that's. 50, £50,000 per prisoner place per year out of my taxes and your taxes. and i'd rather spend my money on preventing than money on preventing crime than actually deal the aftermath actually deal with the aftermath of agree with you. and >> well, i agree with you. and i've had ann widdecombe on the show. on show. she's a regular on sundays. former. home sundays. vanessa, former. home office minister, and i don't know whether you share her politics or not, but she agrees with you that prisons should be productive, constructive and about rehabilitation. absolutely. only a couple of

seconds but do you think seconds left. but do you think some too cushy? some prisons are too cushy? >> depends we >> um, i it depends what what we want. it's very easy want. you know, it's very easy to and say , you know, to sit here and say, you know, prisoners have access to playstations, etcetera, etcetera . but, you know, if you lock somebody up for 23 hours a day behind the door , you don't give behind the door, you don't give them anything and then at some stage you have to release that person into society . what you're person into society. what you're going to release into society is a very bitter person who is going to take that out on society. um, you . have to have a society. um, you. have to have a carrot and stick. and by giving incentives like placed stations, thatis incentives like placed stations, that is an incentive . it is also that is an incentive. it is also a privilege. and as a privilege it can be taken away . it can be taken away. >> speaking of speaking of privileges, vanessa frake harris , m.b.e. it's been the greatest privilege to have you on the show. here's the book. it's out now, winning rave reviews, the governor and she is the governor vanessa, i hope you join us again soon. what a brilliant interview. up, i'll be interview. next up, i'll be deaung interview. next up, i'll be dealing the bbc and their dealing with the bbc and their treatment the great treatment of the late, great

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>> good evening. it's10:00 on television. on radio and online in the united kingdom. and across the world. this is mark dolan tonight in my take at ten, friends say that the late radio legend steve wright died of a broken heart after losing his iconic radio two show, which he presented for 23 years. the bbc's treatment of this national treasure is a national scandal, and i'll be dealing with them in just a couple of minutes time . just a couple of minutes time. meanwhile, donald trump gets . meanwhile, donald trump gets. stung for almost half $1 billion by a top us court. so is the presidential hopeful about to run out of money? plus as the king battles ill health, the duke of sussex offers to help out the royal family in a temporary role. so could prince harry be a useful tool? i'll be asking the queen of us showbiz, royal and political reporting kinsey schofield and plus tomorrow's newspaper front pages and live reaction in the studio from tonight's top pundits. lots

to get through, folks. and of course , my take ten is coming. course, my take ten is coming. but first, the news headlines and sam francis . mark thank you and sam francis. mark thank you very much. >> and good evening from the gb news room i'm sam francis. it's just gone 10:00. our top story this family of the of this hour. the family of the of putin's most high profile critic alexei navalny , say his death alexei navalny, say his death was an orchestrated murder ordered by the russian president . earlier, navalny's mother was seen visiting the arctic prison colony where alexei was held. but she says she wasn't allowed to see or retrieve his body. his team accused russian authorities of withholding his body so they can, they say , cover their can, they say, cover their tracks. following his death, hundreds of people across russia have been detained and blocked from laying flowers at various memorial events in over 20 russian cities . footage here russian cities. footage here from moscow shows people being led away by officers and then being forced inside. police vans. it comes as president

putin faces increasing condemnation from various international leaders . the international leaders. the kremlin, though, says the west's reaction is unacceptable, describing it as absolutely rabid. ukip president and the uk's foreign secretary are among those who have laid blame on the russian leader, lord david cameron has said there will be consequences for vladimir. putin. 12 people have been arrested following a pro—palestinian march in london, with charges ranging from assaults on police officers to refusing to remove face coverings. footage . from central coverings. footage. from central london shows police facing off with protesters at that march. some violence, we understand, did break between did break out between demonstrators police , demonstrators and police, according to reporters at the scene. metropolitan police , scene. the metropolitan police, though, say the overwhelming majority of those who were protesting were peaceful. thousands have also been marching through dublin and in glasgow in other major demonstrations the war demonstrations against the war in gaza . well, staying in in gaza. well, staying in glasgow , scottish labour has

glasgow, scottish labour has backed calls for a ceasefire in gaza in a show of unanimous support for leader anas sarwar calls to end the war with israel, the motion passed unopposed on the second day of the scottish labour conference and urges an end to rocket fire and urges an end to rocket fire and the unintentional release . and the unintentional release. the unconditional release of hostages taken by hamas . it puts hostages taken by hamas. it puts the party at odds with westminster, though, with sir keir starmer stopping short of calling for a ceasefire , saying calling for a ceasefire, saying instead that he wants a sustainable end to the war. donald trump tonight is set to address supporters at a michigan campaign rally later, his first since a new york judge ruled that he must pay more than $354 million. that's around £281 million. that's around £281 million in penalties for fraudulently overstating his net worth . the legal setback comes worth. the legal setback comes as trump faces four other state and federal criminal charges, making him the first former us president to stand trial on criminal charges . meanwhile, his

criminal charges. meanwhile, his republican rival nikki haley, who's critical of trump's legal issues, is also holding an event in south carolina in the tight nomination race. back here in the uk. one person today has been charged with assisting illegal entry to the uk following the discovery that you may have heard about of migrants in the back of a freezer lorry in the back of a freezer lorry in east sussex yesterday . the in east sussex yesterday. the home office, though, hasn't named the person they've charged. it comes after a major incident was sparked, prompting large from large responses from various emergency services at new haven's ferry port. six people were taken to hospital . police were taken to hospital. police are continuing their investigation as we've been heanng investigation as we've been hearing from mark earlier exams for foreign dentists could be scrapped under new plans to boost the number of available appointments it would mean dentists trained abroad would be able to start work in the nhs without a formal check on the quality of their education, but the british dental association has the idea. they say has dismissed the idea. they say it won't be enough to fix what they've called a leaky bucket ,

they've called a leaky bucket, and finally, farmers in kent have been taking a stand today against cheap imports by blockading a tesco supermarket market with around 20 tractors as their . they're protesting to as their. they're protesting to highlight what they fear could be a threat to britain's food security. and the british farmers say they can't compete with imports. and unless . with cheap imports. and unless. something is done, they say there's a risk of empty supermarket shelves in the future. and for the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the code on your screen, or go to our website , gbnews.com. forward website, gb news.com. forward slash website, gbnews.com. forward slash alerts . slash alerts. >> thanks, sam . welcome to mark >> thanks, sam. welcome to mark dolan tonight. donald trump >> thanks, sam. welcome to mark dolan tonight . donald trump gets dolan tonight. donald trump gets stung for almost half $1 billion by a top us court. so is the presidential hopeful about to run out of money? plus, as the king battles health issues, the duke of sussex offers to help

out the royal family in a temporary role. so could prince harry be a useful tool? i'll be asking the queen of us showbiz, royal and political reporting kinsey schofield plus tomorrow's newspaper front pages and live reaction in the studio from tonight's top pundits, author and broadcaster doctor lisa mckenzie, bbc radio legend mike read and former editor of the news of the world neil wallace . news of the world neil wallace. plus, they'll be nominating their headline heroes and back page zeros a packed hour and those papers are coming. but first, my take at ten. when a broad casting legend passes away , there are rightly a flood of tributes. this week, the good and the great of radio, including chris moyles, nicky campbell , sara cox including chris moyles, nicky campbell, sara cox and noel edmonds have been lavish in their praise of the late, great steve wright, whose afternoon show on radio two running as it

did for 23 years, achieved almost mythical status. those that knew steve wright described him as kind, decent and a caring man. and for the millions of us across the country , multiple across the country, multiple generations who listened to his shows, he was one of the best entertainers the medium has ever produced . he was famous for his produced. he was famous for his relentless energy and unending work ethic. but like all geniuses , he made it look easy. geniuses, he made it look easy. whilst the tributes to this broadcasting titan are welcome, 1 or 2 will stick in the craw, particularly that of radio two controller helen thomas, who showed quite the brass neck as she paid tribute to the presenter, talking about how thrilled she was to work with him early in her career and calling him second to none . how calling him second to none. how unfortunate, therefore , that the unfortunate, therefore, that the same helen thomas removed him from his afternoon show , a job from his afternoon show, a job that he'd held for 23 years. he wasn't alone in recent times , as

wasn't alone in recent times, as well as steve wright's relegation to a sunday love songs show, radio two has seen the departure of simon mayo. ratings juggernaut ken bruce, vanessa feltz and the late paul o'grady at that rate, even the peerless terry wogan would have been looking over his shoulder if he'd been around. you have to wonder whether the bbc has a problem with older presenters , problem with older presenters, as is the organisation institutionally ageist ? well, it institutionally ageist? well, it certainly looks to have been for countryfile presenter mick liam o'reilly, who won her case for age discrimination against the corporation after she was dropped from the hit bbc one rural affairs show following her departure from radio two. my friend, the excellent vanessa feltz, said that yes , there is feltz, said that yes, there is an endemic ageism problem at the bbc. she raged that bosses were more concerned about her birthday than her ratings. another brilliant star, who worked for the for bbc 35 years,

liz kershaw , said that she got liz kershaw, said that she got sacked from bbc six music because , quote, they don't want because, quote, they don't want women over 60. and why did graham norton and chris evans leave the channel well, let's hope it's not because they were over the hill to the older talent at radio two has largely been replaced with younger voices like scott mills, vernon kay, joe wiley and dermot o'leary , all very gifted o'leary, all very gifted broadcasters but less popular than their predecessors. having a cull of radio two's golden oldies made no sense given that they were doing the numbers with ken bruce in particular boasting the most listened to radio show in europe with 9 million listeners a week , that's more listeners a week, that's more than his younger, cooler colleague on the breakfast show, zoe ball , who cashes colleague on the breakfast show, zoe ball, who cashes in a cool million pounds a year for her efforts , a figure that dwarfed efforts, a figure that dwarfed ken bruce's then salary, which was barely half that. now the

bbc will argue that plenty of older stars feature on radio two, including tony blackburn , two, including tony blackburn, elaine paige and paul gambier. but worth noting they're tucked away at the weekend . always away at the weekend. always a mistake to tuck away your best talent at the weekend , and talent at the weekend, and they'll also argue that steve wright stayed on the channel with his sunday love songs . wright stayed on the channel with his sunday love songs. but sorry seems to be the hardest word for a truly wonderful host in steve wright, whose close pal, top publicist gary farrow , pal, top publicist gary farrow, says that he simply died of a broken heart. that's right, he says that steve wright died of a broken heart. now, the bbc will also argue that they want to bnngin also argue that they want to bring in fresh talent, something that bbc radio two, for example, have always done. but the messaging of this is terrible. why would you move on? popular older presenters who are delivering the goods . the delivering the goods. the messaging is that many of these stars are just male , pale and stars are just male, pale and stale . except the bbc's stale. except the bbc's obsession with youth is seeing

audiences dwindle with millions. for example, heading over to greatest hits radio in order to hear ken bruce once again. and what is the corporation then saying to bbc licence payers who were enjoying these wonderful stars? i do hope that bbc management don't look down on older viewers and listeners , or older viewers and listeners, or hold them in contempt. i hope that's not the case. the treatment of steve wright in particular is a national scandal from our national broadcaster , from our national broadcaster, with all those listeners and that brilliant daily show. he should have been kept on air. steve wright was a once in a generation talent, and it should have been a job for life on radio two. instead, he saw out his days doing bits and pieces, having lost the job he loved and to which he devoted his life. it's appalling, steve wright has won praise from hypocritical bbc management after his death, but when he was alive, all he got was radio silence. so here is steve wright's last on air sign

off from his show on sunday. all i want to say is r.i.p. to a true giant of radio tadaa. then steve, you never were replaceable and you never will be. >> my goodness, that's brilliant . uh, that's it for today. for love songs and a new love songs extra. our valentine's special is just dropped on bbc sounds for whenever you want it to. check out yesterday's pick of the pops. it's also on bbc sounds. just punch up, pick of the pops . the years are 1978, the pops. the years are 1978, 1986 michael ball to follow the news and i'm back for more love songs next sunday. ta dai then . songs next sunday. ta dai then. >> if that doesn't bring a tear to your eye, nothing will. devastating. well, look, let's get reaction now to the bbc's treatment of steve wright, author and broadcaster doctor lisa mckenzie , former bbc radio lisa mckenzie, former bbc radio dj . and let's be very clear

dj. and let's be very clear about this, another bbc radio legend. of course , a star on legend. of course, a star on radio 1 and radio two for many years, mike reid and the former executive editor of the news of the world, neil wallace . uh, the world, neil wallace. uh, first of all, your reaction to the very sad news of steve wright's passing? mike reid well, we started together as read and write . read and write. >> our boss put us together. we said, do you want us to audition? he said, you don't need to. i know you're going to be we socialised be fine. we never socialised outside the station, but intuitively, in a studio, we knew what the other was going to do. so many pairings in radio are arranged marriage . you are an arranged marriage. you have two people in and they get on and it's okay and they do okay, you know? but steve and myself just knew what the other one was going to do. it was intuitive . we broke the rules . intuitive. we broke the rules. we got fired on a weekly basis . we got fired on a weekly basis. yes. i remember our boss neil, coming in one week. he said, i'm going to fire you again, boys. and we said, what for this time, neil? he said , i don't know, but

neil? he said, i don't know, but i'll think of something. um, we really a lot of fun. we did really had a lot of fun. we did break the rules. said, listen really had a lot of fun. we did br

very much like that. i mean, he was broadcaster and was a great broadcaster and a great character . and very great character. and very briefly, mark, i got an, um, a text two days ago from steve, and it went to somebody else by mistake. and they said, we think the timing is right for us to send you this. and it was we call ourselves by our surnames. he said . he call ourselves by our surnames. he said. he said, paul reid, he said , should come here. he said, should come right here. he said, should come right here. he said , look, i'm looking after said, look, i'm looking after me. he's not me. 93 year old dad. he's not too well . i need to spend more too well. i need to spend more time him , he said. but time with him, he said. but i see you popping the radio see you popping up on the radio and said, looking and tv. geezer, he said, looking good. you are good. you're doing great. catch you laters . uh, and great. catch you laters. uh, and that came through to two days ago, which is very emotional, which didn't come to me a few months ago, which it should have done. but great talent, great loss, . loss, great shame. >> that's devastating. the clock's against us. i'm going to dedicate all my questions to you, mike reid. and i know that lisa and neil will understand . lisa and neil will understand. the break is coming, but i just

want to ask you, do you think that he should have kept his famous afternoon show on radio two? do what? >> sorry, sir. >> sorry, sir. >> do you think. >> do you think. >> do you think. >> do you think that he should have kept afternoon show on have kept his afternoon show on radio wrong to radio two? was it wrong to demote to sundays? demote him to sundays? >> as i say, it's difficult >> it's as i say, it's difficult to apportion blame. it's. i mean, programme mean, steve doing a programme where the where he's running down the chart. we can all do chart. it's fine. we can all do that. uh, you can sunday that. uh, you can do a sunday love do that. love songs. we can all do that. steve's programme particular steve's programme was particular to and his life . uh, to him and it was his life. uh, and i think it probably took his soul and his spirit away and doing an, taking his programme away from him. it was it was what he lived for basically. it's probably like you know, losing a child or losing a sibling or losing a parent. it was it was emotional for him. i would imagine i didn't talk to him about it, but knowing him as i did from starting to work together back in the early days, he would have been emotional about it and he would have been upset about and he wouldn't upset about it and he wouldn't have to do what he have been able to do what he felt born to do . felt he was almost born to do. >> you're both brilliant >> well, you're both brilliant broadcasters, and i'm glad that

you were such a good friend to the late, great wright . the late, great steve wright. okay, folks , coming up, lots okay, folks, coming up, lots more to get through. donald trump gets stung for almost half $1 million. that's sorry. let me correct that. half a billion. that's right. $500 million by a top us court. so it's the presidential hopeful about to run out of money. plus as the king battles ill health, the duke of sussex offers to help out with a temporary role in the royal family. so could prince harry be a useful tool? we'll debate that with kinsey schofield, the queen of us showbiz and royal reporting

>> you're listening to gb news radio . radio. >> the papers are coming, but it's >> the papers are coming, but wsfime >> the papers are coming, but it's time now for us news with the queen of american showbiz, royal and political reporter kinsey schofield kinsey . great kinsey schofield kinsey. great to see you. well, listen, a slightly truncated contribution today. so let's get cracking . today. so let's get cracking. can we talk about a temporary royal role for prince harry? tell me more. that's right.

>> sources have shared with the times that prince harry has told friends that he would be willing to into a royal role, while to step into a royal role, while his father undergoes medical treatment his cancer diagnosis. >> additional here, on this side of the pond, a palace source told page six i have a hard time believing if his father asked for his help, that harry would say no. i think he would try. i don't think it's something that harry would ask to do on his own. um, my opinion is i don't think it's a sincere suggestion, but it certainly proves that harry and meghan have plenty of time on their hands. >> there were rumours that harry had only flown to london to see his father in order that he'd have some material for this interview with. good morning america. is that a harsh assessment ? it. i don't . think assessment? it. i don't. think that that's true. >> i think that harry had planned to appear at the nfl honours event in las vegas right before the super bowl, and realised that it would be very negative public relations for him. um, he would have a lot of

negative headlines if he showed up at a bowl party and up at a super bowl party and hadnt up at a super bowl party and hadn't acknowledged his father's diagnosis directly . diagnosis directly. >> me now tell me about harry's surname and a change in the branding for the whole family. >> that's right. they have adopted the sussex name. i really am kind of at a loss when it comes to this. harry and meghan. and this was the times again, source saying that this again, a source saying that this was unify family was meant to unify the family and that a proud moment and that this was a proud moment for . both prince archie and for them. both prince archie and princess lilibet are also going by sussex as their last name, so it's archie sussex and lili sussex. um you know, i wonder if this is a way for harry and meghan to kind of just say you can take our titles , but we've can take our titles, but we've we've adopted this name and you can't take this from us now . can't take this from us now. >> indeed, their future proofing the brand, aren't they? i mean, harry sussex sounds an harry sussex sounds like an entrant island . entrant for love island. >> yeah , i'd watch that season >> yeah, i'd watch that season for sure. >> yeah. i mean, look, i was

reading ingrid seward comments about this. of course, she's written a brilliant new biography of charles and his mother , elizabeth the second, mother, elizabeth the second, and their relationship , and she and their relationship, and she said it's actually protocol . said it's actually protocol. it's perfectly appropriate for harry and meghan to call themselves sussex , but it's not themselves sussex, but it's not appropriate. and it's not protocol for the kids to have that surname . they are that surname. they are mountbatten—windsor . mountbatten—windsor. >> correct ? i mean, we call you >> correct? i mean, we call you and i talk , we say the sussexes. and i talk, we say the sussexes. so that is something that's very normal and we've done that for a while . i really can't tell you while. i really can't tell you why they've done this when it comes to the kids. um, except, uh, it's been suggested that perhaps this is a way to monetise the children in the future. um, that that's a harsh suggestion, but it has been said, and who is harry to talk about bringing the family together ? i know i know that's together? i know i know that's you know, that's someone has made that point as well on the website , how meghan has listed website, how meghan has listed on the website that family matters are really important to

her. uh, when it comes to some of her campaigning and some of her charity work. and it's like, oh my gosh, haven't talked oh my gosh, you haven't talked to your dad like five years? to your dad in like five years? >> indeed. look, luck >> well, indeed. look, good luck to sure worried to harry. i'm sure he's worried about dad. i do hope, about his dad. and i do hope, uh, in all seriousness, that the family can come together because it's a very serious and worrying time for all concerned. now kinsey, let's talk about donald trump would be president. but in financial trouble. i thought he was a billionaire . was a billionaire. >> yeah, former president donald trump has been found liable for almost 355 million usd in penalties in a fraud trial . the penalties in a fraud trial. the judge also barred him from doing business in new york for three years. the trump organisation was accused of fraudulently misrepresenting their assets in order to get more favourable loans and interest rates over several years, trump is expected to appeal this decision. in the meantime, a trump supporter has already started a gofundme page that's raised at this point in

time, over $90,000 of the 355 million they're trying to raise . million they're trying to raise. as you know, of course, a separate jury recently ordered him to pay e jean carroll 83.3 million for defaming her. people are suggesting he liquidate businesses to come up with that money. um, and i, they're saying that about a third of voters say that about a third of voters say that trump could lose the republican nomination because of these legal troubles as well. >> indeed. now the forbes website, kinsey suggests that his net worth is 2.6 billion usd. but it's not inconceivable that donald trump could go broke . i mean , that's yeah, i mean, . i mean, that's yeah, i mean, there's the suggestions are that he doesn't have the cash , he he doesn't have the cash, he doesn't have that money on hand . doesn't have that money on hand. >> and to be able to pay these these types of penalties outright . but these types of penalties outright. but i mean, he's appealing both decisions . and appealing both decisions. and we'll have to see what happens within the court. there >> a quick word on sharon stone,

famous of course, for basic instinct in that scene in which she crossed her legs. and don't worry, i won't recreate the image you and my viewers. image for you and my viewers. kinsey i don't want to break the internet, but . but, uh, kinsey i don't want to break the internet, but. but, uh, she's a famous actress . somehow she got famous actress. somehow she got herself involved in the oj simpson story. tell me more. >> yeah. this is the weirdest story. she's recently done an interview with a magazine where she talked about about how she was called during the big oj chase and told by lapd that they needed to put her in protection , needed to put her in protection, that they were going to take her to a secret location. and it turns out lapd is like this story is not true. and so everybody's kind of asking yourself why today , hey, are you yourself why today, hey, are you trying to insert yourself in the oj simpson story of yesteryear ? oj simpson story of yesteryear? it's highly bizarre. >> these celebrities will always make it about them. >> kinsey i'm all about you and we'll see you in a week's time. brilliant stuff . the queen of brilliant stuff. the queen of us. showbiz, royal and political reporting kinsey schofield. check out her website today for

daily.com. we've got the papers next. some stunning headlines including a shocking story about phillip schofield. that's

>> you're listening to gb news radio . welcome back to the show radio. welcome back to the show and let's have a look at tomorrow's front pages as they come . in. come. in. >> scandal of 1374 hospital attacks and just 26 charged as the observer. ukraine pleads for more arms as russia . seizes more arms as russia. seizes frontline city at. and let's have a look at this. uh, working from home. oh, i can't read any of this, folks. can me of this, folks. can you do me a better print out of the observer, please? uh, the mirror wills comeback. wills to block any comeback. no way for harry. uh, prince way back for harry. uh, prince william will put a stop to prince harry's attempts to return to the royal fold. the mail on sunday. eco zealots . in

mail on sunday. eco zealots. in plot to occupy homes of mps and show biz exclusive from the mail on sunday. schofield six figure payment to young lover. i'll bnng payment to young lover. i'll bring you more on that in a moment, but sunday express wills won't allow harry back in the family . starmer attacks bad . family. starmer attacks bad. faith trump over nato is the sunday telegraph front page with a photograph of harry on the front. harry has no way back into firm. sunak squandered . into the firm. sunak squandered. brexit gains by approving new eu rules. is another headline and stop mobs targeting mps, police . stop mobs targeting mps, police. told another story on the front page of the telegraph hospital allows surgery by unregistered consultants . iweekend murdered consultants. iweekend murdered by the kremlin world leaders blame putin for death of jailed critic alexei navalny and last but not least, for now, we have the daily star sunday zubair caged in squalor and force fed

booze , is set to go free after booze, is set to go free after a daily star campaign readers save baloo and a wonderful story that is, and well done. the daily star sunday. those are your front pages. let's get full reaction now from my top pundits this evening . reaction now from my top pundits this evening. i'm reaction now from my top pundits this evening . i'm delighted to this evening. i'm delighted to have author broadcaster have author and broadcaster doctor mckenzie, bbc radio doctor lisa mckenzie, bbc radio legend mike read and former executive editor of the news of the world, neil wallace. okay folks, lots of stories to sink our teeth into . and how about our teeth into. and how about this scandal, lisa mckenzie in the independent ? this scandal, lisa mckenzie in the independent? um, almost this scandal, lisa mckenzie in the independent ? um, almost 1500 the independent? um, almost 1500 hospital attacks and just 26 charges. if you thought there would be somewhere safe to be, it would be a hospital. yes yes. >> and i think one of the really frightening, uh, part of this is there's been a number of rapes. this includes rapes. extraordinary that there's that there's been attacks hospital there's been attacks in hospital and that includes rape . i mean,

and that includes rape. i mean, how does that even how is this happening ? um, you know, when happening? um, you know, when i go into my local hospital, we've got one of the biggest hospitals. we've got the queen's medical centre , you know, and medical centre, you know, and it's filled with security. we, medical centre, you know, and it's know, nith security. we, medical centre, you know, and it's know, there's:urity. we, medical centre, you know, and it's know, there's securityz, you know, there's security everywhere , or it appears that everywhere, or it appears that way. so it makes me wonder way. and so it makes me wonder what is this on the wards? is it i mean, i know a&e is like like a war zone . sometimes. yeah. a war zone. sometimes. yeah. yeah, i know that. but especially on a saturday night. >> yeah, but i no idea . >> yeah, but i have no idea. >> yeah, but i have no idea. >> i do have an idea what's happening here. i think we can look at many, many areas of the country at the moment and see that things are are we're losing control over lots of areas, you know , you're beating about the know, you're beating about the bush. >> emi- >> what do you mean? >> what do you mean? >> do i mean? >> what do i mean? >> what do i mean? >> and order in the country. >> law and order in the country. >> law and order in the country. >> i don't want that >> i don't want to say that because law and because i don't like law and order. especially order. because i don't like law and ordjyou especially order. because i don't like law and ordjyou don't specially order. because i don't like law and ordjyou don't like ially order. authoritarianism? >> i don't no, i don't, but >> no i don't no, i don't, but i do. but i also don't like do. but what i also don't like is vulnerable are is that vulnerable people are now because of this. now suffering because of this. you know, i think about what's been happening in bristol with

the stabbings. yeah. know, the stabbings. yeah. you know, it's people may not it's vulnerable people may not like idea that young people like the idea that young people are but are stabbing each other, but they are. and that makes them vulnerable to each other. and we need something . we need to need to do something. we need to say something this . say something about this. >> we do. >> we do. >> neil, this is a national scandal, isn't it? it is. >> i think the important thing about this is it's a i'm sorry. it's a terribly badly produced page it's a terribly badly produced page. it's a terribly badly produced page . one story, this this is page. one story, this this is inside psychiatric hospitals is the point of this story this 1374 attacks and just 26 charges. it's happened in psychiatric wards. okay >> which is surprising. >> which is surprising. >> well , yes, >> which is surprising. >> well, yes, but it makes it even more terrible, doesn't it? in a way, these are people who have been , um, incarcerated in a have been, um, incarcerated in a way, because many of them are held , uh, on committed. they're held, uh, on committed. they're committed to mental hospitals and they're being raped and attacked there where they're most , um, attacked there where they're most, um, vulnerable. yeah so

it's a particularly awful twist to the story. >> well, it most definitely is. >> well, it most definitely is. >> how about this , uh, neil, for >> how about this, uh, neil, for a news of the world style exclusive in the mail online, you'd have been proud to have a story like this in your paper when you looked after the news of the world. it's the mail online, and it's their consultant editor of showbiz, katie hind and philip schofield paid his young lover a six figure sum with a gagging clause. that means the disgraced this morning presenter knows that his ex can never speak about their relationship, so he will sleep a lot better . um, will sleep a lot better. um, your reaction to this story now we do not have any more arterial any evidence to back up this story? it's being reported in the mail online. um i should add that katie hind has been across this story from the start. >> well, i was just going to say iused >> well, i was just going to say i used to. katie used to work for us on the news of the world. i've known katie for many years . i've known katie for many years. she has led this story from the beginning. i think she broke the

original story. she has led every step of the way. this story will be true and the non—disclosure agreement is what we're talking about here. and i'd have been very surprised, frankly , if there hadn't been frankly, if there hadn't been a non—disclosure agreement. why would you pay that amount of money? but having said that , money? but having said that, they're actually very shaky. these days. they're not that difficult to break anymore. >> i don't know what is a non—disclosure agreement. and why schofield have why might schofield have organised signing of this by organised the signing of this by his ex—lover? so there's two elements that come into this one. >> it is a way of resolving a legal complaint without actually having to go to court. to the satisfaction, as it were, of both sides. so the complaint , satisfaction, as it were, of both sides. so the complaint, as it were, gets a large financial payoff . but by going that payoff. but by going that financial payoff, the gory details never emerge. is the idea of a non—disclosure order. so it's a legal contract act

between philip schofield and this young man , um, in which the this young man, um, in which the young man is never able to disclose what out exactly how the relationship , um, evolved the relationship, um, evolved when it developed all the detail that, frankly, needs to come out. really? >> indeed. >> indeed. >> now, mike reid, philip schofield is not here to defend himself. may that this himself. he may deny that this non—disclosure agreement exists. neil's pretty happy with the probity level of probity at the mail newspaper and its consultant editor of showbiz, katie hind. but do you think these non—disclosure agreements are unethical? are they wrong ? are unethical? are they wrong? >> i don't know where they're wrong . i often wonder what the wrong. i often wonder what the super non—disclosure was. the superinjunction super injunction, which a lot of premier league footballers have enacted, haven't they ? but what enacted, haven't they? but what does that mean? how? how how high can you get? how many walls can you build? what is it? i mean, you put in what is the

super injunction? >> injunction is >> a super injunction is frankly, down to the judiciary and what the judiciary agree is you can't even disclose the fact on privacy grounds. this usually is you can't reveal that that phillip schofield has actually formed this, uh , this, um , formed this, uh, this, um, agreement because of intrusion . agreement because of intrusion. >> do you think that if you've had a relationship with somebody and then you ask them to sign a non—disclosure agreement, perhaps accompanied by a six figure sum, which is what's alleged about phillip schofield in the mail, is that wrong? is that unethical? do think that unethical? do you think lisa, i think non—disclosure orders unethical. orders are unethical. >> full stop. and you would be very surprised if i told you that universities use them a lot to the point where i have signed one myself. if under what circumstances have they asked you to sign an nda ? uh, for you to sign an nda? uh, for conduct that they have done? um, i mean , to be honest, as you

i mean, to be honest, as you said, they're very bad things have happened at work and they've asked sign they've asked you to sign a letter i won't letter saying, i won't say anything that's right, letter saying, i won't say awas. ng that's right, letter saying, i won't say awas. and that's right, letter saying, i won't say awas. and what that's right, letter saying, i won't say awas. and what motivated ght, letter saying, i won't say awas. and what motivated you to i was. and what motivated you to sign that nda? because i needed to get out of that workplace case. because it was driving me insane. case. because it was driving me insane . and i and, uh, they insane. uh, and i and, uh, they offered me six months pay so it doesn't always have to be massive amounts of money. >> well, are you ready now to spill the beans? >> well, i, i said immediately, because i know that these things aren't worth much. aren't really worth that much. i was of anti middle class was accused of anti middle class rhetoric . okay. um for does that rhetoric. okay. um for does that look like we have a waitrose. well for for a an article that i criticising argues . well what i criticising argues. well what i was just talking about that universities especially elite university his are toxic for all working class people. and i was accused and disciplined . for non accused and disciplined. for non for anti middle class rhetoric .

for anti middle class rhetoric. and when you work in an elite university which is the one i was in, um they get very worried about this sort of stuff. >> i mean we sound much like free speech does it. >> it's not free speech at all. >> it's not free speech at all. >> it's not free speech at all. >> i did sign an nda with myself once because i, i just wasn't sure . sure. >> did you ever have to sign anything when you were at the beeb? 1 for beeb? you were at radio 1 for many and the many years. radio two and the rest. yeah. >> no, no, i signed >> no, no, i never signed an nda. >> no, no, i never signed an ndiand what you think, neil? >> and what do you think, neil? might be on might the implications be on this developing story in relation to phillip schofield? i suppose the damage is done, but does more, uh, tittle tattle like less likely like this make it less likely he'll reappear on tv? >> yes. i think there >> yes. frankly, i think there was little likelihood that was very little likelihood that he come back anyway, he would come back anyway, frankly. what this says is frankly. but what this says is that phillip schofield is prepared to offer a large amount of money to stop this boy telling the story. whatever it is . so whatever telling the story. whatever it is. so whatever he's telling the story. whatever it is . so whatever he's got telling the story. whatever it is. so whatever he's got , is it is. so whatever he's got, is it worth this amount of money? and in the world of the media, that

would suggest it was he . he would suggest it was he. he feared that it could be even more embarrassing than the situation he finds himself at the moment. >> it's a >> do you think it's a regrettable that young regrettable that the young person involved alleged person involved his alleged ex did you think person involved his alleged ex did the you think person involved his alleged ex did the young you think person involved his alleged ex did the young man you think person involved his alleged ex did the young man involved nk person involved his alleged ex did the young man involved will that the young man involved will regret that decision? >> two things >> i think two things we don't know the circumstances that this young man might now be in, because showbiz is a small world. i very much doubt whether it his name is unknown . known to it his name is unknown. known to the other television company . the other television company. his. yeah. is he likely to find work again ? so if he's in a work again? so if he's in a position where because of this relationship, i offered him a job on the show and the last we heard is that he was working in a bar to make ends meet. well it may be that he thought that, um, he couldn't face that exposure. so he's ended up working in a bar as a result of a what he

thought was a relationship that mattered . and he simply to mattered. and he simply to nervous to set foot back into the world of media. >> uh, neil, what about itv ? >> uh, neil, what about itv? they've just announced the new presenters to replace schofield and willoughby, and it's going to be cat deeley and ben shepherd. shepherd thank you for helping me out there. uh, and so can itv. and can this morning as a brand put the scandal behind them. >> i think they're trying desperately to and i, i know a bit about cat deeley. um, she , bit about cat deeley. um, she, she's a very accomplished presenter. ben shepherd has been around for years. it's very comfortable. and so it's i think it's a very clever move by them to try to just put in front of the viewers , people that they the viewers, people that they might feel comfortable with and, um, so itv will be who handled this? absolutely disgracefully. yeah. incidentally he will be desperate for this to work . desperate for this to work. >> um, most, most definitely . do

>> um, most, most definitely. do you think that the this morning brand will survive? mike i think it could do. >> ben shepherd's very good. he's a great presenter , a nice he's a great presenter, a nice guy. i think that has he got any boyfriends? >> hmm. do you want any boyfriends? we need to know about? you the intel about? can you give me the intel 7 about? can you give me the intel ? has he been a naughty boy? >> an nda? >> an nda? >> hey. yeah. done . >> hey. yeah. well done. hopefully for a six figure sum. although you. i'll be honest hopefully for a six figure sum. althcyou, you. i'll be honest hopefully for a six figure sum. althcyou, there'sl be honest hopefully for a six figure sum. althcyou, there's noe honest hopefully for a six figure sum. althcyou, there's no pricezst hopefully for a six figure sum. althcyou, there's no price you with you, there's no price you can put on mike reid's reputation . um, listen, folks, reputation. um, listen, folks, lots more front lots more to come, more front pages and live reaction in the studio my top pundits . and studio from my top pundits. and they'll their they'll be nominating their headune they'll be nominating their headline and back page headline heroes and back page zeroes the day. plus, we've zeroes of the day. plus, we've been conducting an exclusive mark dolan tonight people's poll. we've been asking, should prince harry become a us citizen? well, the results are in. i shall reveal all

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think that the way the bbc treated steve wright, the late, great radio presenter, was absolutely disgraceful. he should have kept his afternoon show, he should have had a job for life. his close friend gary farrow, who is a top showbiz publicist, said that steve wright died of a broken heart. i think it's devastating and many of you agree with that at this from sister , quickly call up from sister, quickly call up this email. it's june. from sister, quickly call up this email. it'sjune. good evening june, how are you? thanks for your email. june says dear what gent . steve dear mark, what a gent. steve wright was just great. always cheered me up when having a bad day at work feeling low. you day at work or feeling low. you would tune in feel better. would tune in and feel better. unfortunately, age discrimination . unfortunately, age discrimination. is unfortunately, age discrimination . is rife unfortunately, age discrimination. is rife in unfortunately, age discrimination . is rife in the discrimination. is rife in the uk and has been for decades and it's been completely ignored by all. i could write a book on it says june. despite legislation to the older workers to protect the older workers when drafted, age when drafted, the age discrimination legislation allowed caveats and much more. look, i'd love to read that whole email, but a fantastic contribution from you, june. thank you for that. now, we've been conducting an exclusive

market. dolan. tonight, people's poll. we've been asking , should poll. we've been asking, should prince become a us prince harry become a us citizen? well, the results are in and 73.1% say yes. off you go , harry. to the united states and 26.9% say no . my brilliant and 26.9% say no. my brilliant team of ben, lottie and james have brought in some more front pages and let's have a look now at the sun. no, we've got the times. where should we start? alastair times newspaper, first of all, and it's a sunday times, of all, and it's a sunday times, of course . and they lead with of course. and they lead with the following. let me just call up. so many papers in front of me, i couldn't tell you. post office boss told stall payouts. so tories can limp into the general election. the former post office chairman says he was told by a senior civil servant told by a senior civil servant to slow down subpostmasters, compensate in payments to allow the government . to limp into the the government. to limp into the next general election, and that will spark a row about civil service impartiality. kamil

lalong on why prince harry should come back uk and should come back to the uk and ray davies 60 years of the kinks . what a what a band . mike reid . what a what a band. mike reid just back to us for a second. mike the kinks i mean a thinking man's beatles. wouldn't you agree ? agree? >> yeah, no, a great writer. ray davies, one of our great writers. a string of hits . writers. a string of hits. brilliant. um a very british writer . he wrote a very, very, writer. he wrote a very, very, very british, very english songs. village green preservation society, my autumn almanac well respected almanac, you know well respected man. very, very good man. he was very, very good at that. i mean, yeah, i mean a great writer. i they did great writer. i mean, they did for london, what the for london, i think what the beatles liverpool and of beatles did for liverpool and of course songs about london, course wrote songs about london, including sunset. yes including waterloo sunset. yes waterloo sunset. really lovely song. and dancing in waterloo sunset. really lovely s(not and dancing in waterloo sunset. really lovely s(not dissimilar dancing in waterloo sunset. really lovely s(not dissimilar vein dancing in waterloo sunset. really lovely s(not dissimilar vein .dancing in waterloo sunset. really lovely s(not dissimilar vein . uh, :ing in waterloo sunset. really lovely s(not dissimilar vein . uh, but in a not dissimilar vein. uh, but yeah, our songwriters now get a pretty rough deal. they don't earn the money they should do. they're various areas that, uh , they're various areas that, uh, that exploit their music without

them getting the rightful money for it , which them getting the rightful money for it, which is a problem. and well, it really is. it's probably not affecting ray. he's probably not affecting ray. he's probably okay. >> it probably is. it's >> it probably is. but it's going to affect next ray going to affect the next ray davies. oh, indeed. >> right alastair. >> absolutely right alastair. >> absolutely right alastair. >> you. back the front >> thank you. back to the front page >> thank you. back to the front page times. and page of the sunday times. and let's have a look at this. and it's in relation to the death of the russian critic. the russian regime . critic alexei navalny , regime. critic alexei navalny, fsb, navalny jail visit days before death kremlin spies are accused of disconnecting cctv as mother demands son's body . back mother demands son's body. back seize russia bank assets cameron urges the g7 and williams £3 million to build social housing in surf town . and that's a new in surf town. and that's a new quayin in surf town. and that's a new quay in cornwall in which the prince of wales hopes to dedicate and invest some hard earned cash. lots more papers . earned cash. lots more papers. to get through. let's look at the sun on sunday. exclusive double blow aids stopped prince travelling to sandringham . no

travelling to sandringham. no way back for him in any hybrid royal role. harry blocker is the headune royal role. harry blocker is the headline prince harry was stopped from joining the king at sandringham after flying to the uk because palissades feared they'd never get rid of him and courtiers ruled out the possibility that he could return in a hybrid role in support of father charles as he's treated for cancer . okay, brilliant. for cancer. okay, brilliant. back to my top pundits and delighted to have doctor lisa mckenzie, mike reid and neil wallace who have their headline heroes and back page zeros of the day. so who's your headline hero today? lisa mckenzie. >> it is alexei navalny . >> it is alexei navalny. >> it is alexei navalny. >> i've been following him for many, many years . >> i've been following him for many, many years. i'm >> i've been following him for many, many years . i'm somebody many, many years. i'm somebody that speaks out against many things myself and controversial guy. um, and i've always really admired him. and and i always watched him thinking , please watched him thinking, please leave. don't stay there. but i understood why he had to stay. you know, he should have. he are

you always knew this day was coming . coming. >> does this tragedy make a peace deal with vladimir putin over ukraine? less likely? yes . yes. >> i think this is, uh, this is this is i've been again i've been immersed in this sort of critique of this and, uh , what critique of this and, uh, what it seems is putin is speaking to his country, not to the rest of the world. >> if putin is implicated in this, neil wallace, has he overplayed his hand? no no, because he can get away with it. >> the problem you've got to remember about putin, he is the definitive despot. doesn't definitive despot. he doesn't really about whatever he really care about whatever he doesis really care about whatever he does is affecting his country. he's killed something like killed or wounded to terrible effect. something like 300,000 russians over the last two years. and ukraine, he doesn't care. he's been asset stripping the country for his entire time in power. he's got a dasher , um, in power. he's got a dasher, um, out on the coast and the black

sea that was built for £1 billion. imagine you know, he simply doesn't care. >> as the tottenham hotspur stadium. i mean, it's extraordinary stuff. maybe spurs could win in russia. um, listen, mike reid, your headline hero of the day . the day. >> well, steve wright, where we touched on steve. so on the value front, i mean, i'll extend that because we talked about steve quite a bit . but that because we talked about steve quite a bit. but i mean, when i looked that, that when i looked at that, that prison polar wolf, you know, and what did , the torture that what they did, the torture that the guy went through and they make them outside and in make them stand outside and in —25 degrees for 40 minutes, if you moved a muscle, you got a water cannon on you. the whole lot of you. i mean that that is some kind of hero to go through that on a regular basis. and when you know, uh , when you look at, you know, uh, you know, nemtsov levinei echo all those people, they , as you all those people, they, as you rightly say, he doesn't care if someone's in the way. they're

gone. >> neil wallace, briefly, if you can, your headline hero. >> we haven't talked about it on this program, but the big news story of the week is been about anti—semitism in rochdale . um, anti—semitism in rochdale. um, so my hero of the week is the newspaper that broke that story and make it made it run across. >> so don't mention the candidate if you can. otherwise i've got to do all the candidates. but which which paper deserves credit? paper deserves the credit? >> on . sunday >> mail on. sunday >> mail on. sunday >> there you go. cracking journalism . a cracking journalism. a cracking journalism. a cracking journalism from all of you tonight . apologies. no time for tonight. apologies. no time for your back page. zeros . but it's your back page. zeros. but it's been a thrill to have you on. thank you for your company. thank you for your company. thank you for your company. thank you to my team for working so hard for tonight's show and yesterday as well . but we've got yesterday as well. but we've got a very special show you a very special show for you tomorrow so to get tomorrow night. so much to get through . is immigration good or through. is immigration good or bad for britain? be

bad for britain? will be debating that. plus i've got some and widdicombe some big names and widdicombe joins annunciate rees—mogg. joins me annunciate rees—mogg. so many brilliant voices. joins me annunciate rees—mogg. so many brilliant voices . all of so many brilliant voices. all of your favourite elements. the big story and the big opinion. and of course the take at ten. lots to get through. i'll see you tomorrow at nine. headliners is next. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt spot of weather on boxt boilers spot of weather on gb news is . gb news is. >> hello there. >> hello there. >> welcome to your latest gb news weather forecast. i'm craig snell. we're looking ahead to sunday. certainly going to be the the weekend for the best day of the weekend for many of us. it should be drier and brighter before we get there. we'd have this weather front to move across the uk, but you note the winds are coming in from the south—west, so it is going to be a mild night and that continue into tomorrow that will continue into tomorrow too. so have this area of too. so we have this area of rain this rain will be rain. some of this rain will be heavy, especially across parts of and wales. some poor of england and wales. some poor travelling conditions. if you are travelling overnight tonight, but behind it does turn a little bit drier with some clear skies but also the risk of

a few showers. but for all it is a few showers. but for all it is a mild night. temperatures in the not lower than 10 the south not much lower than 10 or 11 degrees, into sunday the south not much lower than 10 or 11 deg we've into sunday the south not much lower than 10 or 11 deg we've stillo sunday the south not much lower than 10 or 11 deg we've still gotjnday the south not much lower than 10 or 11 deg we've still gotjnda'rain morning we've still got the rain across south—east will across the south—east that will gradually clear towards the continent head towards continent as we head towards lunchtime, and for many it's a much brighter much drier and brighter day. still. few showers much drier and brighter day. still. but few showers much drier and brighter day. still. but in few showers much drier and brighter day. still. but in between showers much drier and brighter day. still. but in between there rs around, but in between there will be plenty of sunny spells. and for of is going will be plenty of sunny spells. and f

gb news. >> you're watching and listening to gb news. i'm sam francis, the headunes to gb news. i'm sam francis, the headlines just after 11:00, the mother of jailed putin critic alexei navalny has said she's not been allowed to see or retrieve his body from the arctic jail where he died . and arctic jail where he died. and navalny's say his death was navalny's team say his death was an orchestrated ordered an orchestrated murder ordered by vladimir putin. they accused the russian authorities of purposefully withholding his body so they can cover their tracks. they say following navalny's death, hundreds of people across russia have been detained and barred from leaving flowers at various memorial events . footage from moscow here events. footage from moscow here shows people being led away from off by officers and being forced into police vans. it comes as president putin is facing increasing condemnation from international leaders, including those in the us, the eu and the uk . the kremlin, though, says uk. the kremlin, though, says the west's reaction is unacceptable. they've described it as absolutely rabid. the ukrainian president is among

those who've laid blame on the