on monday the 19th of february. >> warning to the kremlin. britain will take action over the death of russian opposition leader alexei navalny as david cameron warns mps today when they return to the house of commons that new sanctions are on the way. >> yes, he does indeed, and sacked for criticising hamas former labour minister lord austin has been controversially suspended as the chair of a housing association after describing hamas as islamist rapists and murderers, housing minister michael gove has demanded an urgent explanation , demanded an urgent explanation, and the families of the victims killed in the nottingham triple murder by valdo cocconi have been left, quote, sickened after they learned that officers shared gruesome details of their loved ones injuries to others using . using. whatsapp i'm ben, have you seen this mega poll of conservative voters?

>> nearly 14,000 , 14,000 voters >> nearly 14,000, 14,000 voters and it finds that. >> guess who boris johnson would win back? voters lost under rishi sunak. so he's still the preferred choice. still bring back bojo. >> he was he was the golden boy, wasn't he? at the start in 2019. massive election victory. but then, uh , conservative voters then, uh, conservative voters accused him of losing his head going down this deranged net zero path. yeah. and everything else. >> i mean, the polls found that just over half of those who voted conservative in 2019, but who now intend to vote for a different party, would vote for mr boris johnson again . there's mr boris johnson again. there's something about him, isn't he? isn't there? >> well, he's. >> well, he's. >> love him or hate him, he's light. >> this is what his critics say. he's light on policy. but big on character is character enough to win a general election. boris, of course, was the man who accused sir keir starmer of being a human bollard. so will it be enough? >> will rishi this one is actually a survey of, as you

said, nearly 14,000 voters. usually, sometimes these polls have about 200 300 people. yeah. so you can't really make big draw big conclusions . but this draw big conclusions. but this one does show boris johnson what do you think at home. >> bring back boris. will he be enough ailing enough to save the ailing conservatives? vaiews@gbnews.com. but first, here's headlines sam . here's your headlines with sam. >> ben , emily, thank you very >> ben, emily, thank you very much. it's 12:02. >> ben, emily, thank you very much. it's12:02. the >> ben, emily, thank you very much. it's 12:02. the top >> ben, emily, thank you very much. it's12:02. the top story much. it's 12:02. the top story from the gb news room this afternoon a major crime investigation is now underway in bristol after three young children were found dead there. officers responded to a welfare call and found the bodies of a boy, aged seven, a three year old girl and a ten month old boy, a 42 year old woman was arrested at the scene. she was then taken to hospital and is now in police custody . forensic now in police custody. forensic examinations are underway, we understand to determine how those three children died. police also say a local church has been opened for people to

gather and to mourn, while community officers will remain in the area over the coming days . the widow of alexei navalny says that russian authorities are deliberately withholding his body , and she says that's until body, and she says that's until traces of nerve agent novichok disappear from his system in a message posted to social media in the last hour or so, yulia navalny vowed to continue his work, saying that she wanted to live in a free russia. she also said that the reason for his death is known, and the details of those responsible will soon be made public. >> alexei bucha putin killed my children's father, putin took away the most dear person i have ever had . ever had. >> i want to live in a free russia. >> i, i want to build a free russia . for. russia. for. >> well, that comes as mr navalny's mother and his lawyer were seen visiting the local prosecutor's office in the city

near to where he died last week. but a spokesperson said they weren't allowed into the morgue where his body is believed to be being held , adding that they being held, adding that they were literally pushed out back here in the uk, new guidance has been issued for teachers in england to allow the banning of mobile phones in schools. head teachers can now choose to include a ban on phones in their schools behaviour policy , with schools behaviour policy, with provisions for searches if necessary. the union, representing head teachers, though, says robust rules already exist and they've dismissed the new guidelines as a non policy for a non—problem. they say . but the education they say. but the education secretary, gillian keegan, told gb news this morning that the government is ensuring clarity and consistency exists across all classrooms. what we're trying to do is change the social norm , change the norm in social norm, change the norm in our schools that that phones are not acceptable in our schools and with some other countries have done this. have already done this. >> countries have >> quite a few countries have already done and just already done this, and we just want sure that it's want to make sure that it's consistent and we make it clear,

and to and we empower head teachers to do this. and we think that mostly this something mostly, um, this is something that welcome. well that parents would welcome. well we've heard today that a search is still underway in leicester after a two year old boy fell into the river soar . into the river soar. >> the emergency services responded just after 5:00 last night to an area near marston lane, leicestershire police are leading the ongoing operation there and have now deployed additional specialist teams to the area . officers say rising the area. officers say rising water levels are presenting some danger and they're asking the pubuc danger and they're asking the public to keep away from the area . 215 year old boys are to area. 215 year old boys are to appear at a youth court in bristol today, charged with the murder of a 16 year old, darian williams was fatally stabbed in rawnsley park in the city. the attackers allegedly wore masks before fleeing the scene on bicycles on wednesday . avon and bicycles on wednesday. avon and somerset police have introduced enhanced stop and search measures , and they've also measures, and they've also launched a new operation targeting youth violence. we understand there will also be additional patrols outside schools and a mobile police

station will be in the area over the coming days. that comes just weeks after the deaths of teenagers. mason wrist and max dixon, who were also stabbed in bristol . a uk car. a uk cargo bristol. a uk car. a uk cargo ship, rather in the red sea, has been attacked by yemen's houthi rebels, forcing the crew on board to abandon it. the uk's maritime authority confirmed the ship sustained catastrophic damage in the missile attack off the coast of yemen, and we understand, is now at risk of sinking . it comes as the eu sinking. it comes as the eu prepares to launch a new mission to protect commercial ships in the region , after the uk and the the region, after the uk and the us also sent their military ships to the region in december. attacks on vessels by the houthis, who were being backed by iran, are starting to have an economic impact by disrupting cargo ships between asia and europe , lord cameron will be europe, lord cameron will be arriving in the falkland islands later today in a high profile demonstration that the islands

are a valued part of the british family. the historic visit, the first by a foreign secretary since 1994, comes amid renewed argentine calls for negotiations on the island's future . lord on the island's future. lord cameron has said that the sovereignty of the falklands is non—negotiable , which he says is non—negotiable, which he says is in line with the islanders desire to remain . british for desire to remain. british for the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen. or, of course, go to our website gb news . this . of course, go to our website gb news . this. right news .com/ alerts. this. right >> well, let's start with that brand new poll that shows boris johnson would bring back half of lost tory voters , and is the lost tory voters, and is the favourite to replace rishi sunak. it's almost hard to believe , isn't it, after all of believe, isn't it, after all of this time that still so many conservative and note conservative voters and note this was a survey of nearly 14,000 them would prefer 14,000 of them would prefer bofis 14,000 of them would prefer boris johnson still to replace rishi sunak. i was giggling in

that news segment because the emails are flying in. >> 50% of you say, yes, bring back boris. we need him to save the tories. the other half of you, absolutely furious at the idea and actually it is this poll well, nearly 14,000 poll 14,000. well, nearly 14,000 conservative members, as you just emily, it's not just just said, emily, it's not just any old 100, 200 people poll with, know , you can't really with, you know, you can't really trust them. is poll trust them. this is a mega poll of true diehard tories . so it's of true diehard tories. so it's got to have some weight. >> well, i imagine a lot of conservative voters or party members least haven't members at least haven't forgiven rishi for what forgiven rishi sunak for what they of a stabbing they saw as a bit of a stabbing in the back. but let's speak to political correspondent olivia utley bring latest utley to bring us the latest analysis of olivia, this analysis of this. olivia, this big poll , 13,000 odd tory voters big poll, 13,000 odd tory voters asked who they'd like to be leader. lots of support still for boris johnson. are you surprised . surprised. >> lots of support for boris johnson . i'm not particularly johnson. i'm not particularly surprised. i think that we always knew boris johnson was a real marmite figure. there are plenty of people who absolutely loathe him who can never loathe him and who can never forgive him for partygate . but

forgive him for partygate. but there are also plenty of people who think that is the who think that he is the conservative party's only hope, possibly at the next election . possibly at the next election. it was really interesting last week to hear rishi sunak asked about this. he did not rule out bringing back boris johnson in some capacity before the next election. and i've spoken to conservative mps on the backbenches who would very much like to see that happen . they like to see that happen. they feel as though and the polls back them up really, rishi back them up really, that rishi sunak sort of haemorrhaging sunak has sort of haemorrhaging report week by week and report support week by week and lots of them suggest quietly behind the scenes that the prime minister, the current prime minister, the current prime minister, just isn't very good at politics like him or loathe him, boris johnson is pretty good at politics. he won the conservatives a huge majority of 80 seats when no one was expecting it, and there are people who think that perhaps he could pull off, perhaps not the same feat this time around, but maybe, just maybe, snatch the conservatives a victory from the jaws of defeat. but as you can

see from your email inbox, there for every person, for every tory who loves boris johnson and think he thinks he's the answer to the conservatives problem , to the conservatives problem, there is probably another who were who were thrilled to see the back of him and can't bear the back of him and can't bear the idea of him making a comeback, and olivia , what do comeback, and olivia, what do you think boris would make of it all? >> i mean, he's earning a pretty penny doing speeches around the world cashing in world and, you know, cashing in on his as pm. pm. do you on his time as pm. pm. do you think he'd be up for a big return ? return? >> i think that's a really interesting question . i mean, interesting question. i mean, looking at it objectively, you see that the life that he's created for himself now, this mansion that he's got in oxfordshire, he's got his lovely three little children who just seem to run around , according to seem to run around, according to carrie's instagram. anyway seemed to just spend their time sort around sort of running around the fields his with fields barefoot with his with his wife. he is making a lot of money on the public speaking scene. he was always a very good sort of after dinner speaker, and he's raking it in from that

these days . you would think these days. you would think perhaps that he wouldn't like to come back and go back to the to the drudgery of being a politician or the criticism that he got. why would he put himself up for that again? but those close to boris johnson say that he loved it. he liked being in power. he felt that there was a lot that he wanted achieve, lot that he wanted to achieve, that never got to achieve that he never got to achieve because of his premiership was completely derailed by covid and there are those who say that he would like to restore his reputation and his legacy for future generations , and that future generations, and that thatis future generations, and that that is the most important thing , i think. >> i think he if he felt wait, sorry, olivia. if he felt he had enough support, i think he'd sorry, olivia. if he felt he had enou at support, i think he'd sorry, olivia. if he felt he had enou at sup chance:hink he'd sorry, olivia. if he felt he had enou at sup chance again|e'd sorry, olivia. if he felt he had enou at sup chance again to! sorry, olivia. if he felt he had enou at sup chance again to be leap at the chance again to be prime may i ask you prime minister. may i ask you about which about something else which has shocked there's shocked me? and perhaps there's more to this story. um, that we haven't that hasn't been captured headline . but captured in the headline. but lord , now he's been lord austin, now he's been sacked. former labour minister sacked. former labour minister sacked from a role at a housing association. been accused of islamophobia . now, from what

islamophobia. now, from what i've seen, he tweeted that hamas were islamist terrorists . how were islamist terrorists. how has that been deemed islamophobic ? sukh islamophobic? sukh >> well, i think that's a very good question, emily. i've spoken to lots of people in westminster who are very, very surprised about this. lord austin has been a real figurehead in the labour fight back against anti—semitism. he was he was a labour mp, but he was he was a labour mp, but he was appointed by the government as a housing tsar. he was seen as a housing tsar. he was seen as instrumental, really, in trying to turn around the labour party during the corbyn years. he was one of those brave mps who stood up to their leader and ended up having to leave the party. and perhaps, as you say, emily, there is more to this story than meets the eye. but everyone i've spoken to seems to be pretty outraged the idea be pretty outraged that the idea that austin that the tweets that lord austin has been sacked for were anything like islamophobia. i think we'll have to wait and see until we've got a little bit more information on this. but on the it, it does seem

the face of it, it does seem pretty what do you make >> olivia, what do you make briefly of that mail on sunday story about just stop oil plotting occupy the houses of plotting to occupy the houses of up . to 100 mps. up. to 100 mps. >> i mean, we saw what what paul tobias ellwood went went through last week when protesters it was gaza protesters in this case were were gathered outside of his house while his two children and he were all inside the idea that protesters can start protesting by mps houses, i think is very , very worrying for think is very, very worrying for mp security and i think there will be plenty of politicians who will be deeply concerned about that story today. remember, of course , in the last remember, of course, in the last ten years, there have been two mps who have been murdered. mps security is a huge, huge issue and the idea of protesters potentially, uh , threatening potentially, uh, threatening that security, although of course , there is no suggestion course, there is no suggestion that these just stop oil protesters could actually hurt these . but the very idea of these mps. but the very idea of that being damaged, and

that security being damaged, and also the of protesters, uh, also the idea of protesters, uh, you , perhaps benign you know, perhaps benign protesters , uh, accidentally protesters, uh, accidentally throwing a spotlight on any weaknesses in mp security for those who have more malign aims, i think will be deeply, deeply worrying to a number of politicians and of course, their families as well. >> thank you very much indeed. olivia utley , political olivia utley, our political correspondent there in westminster . see, the just stop westminster. see, the just stop oilers would say this is them. uh, you know, this their uh, you know, this is their democratic is democratic right. this is democracy action. democracy in action. but i actually it a chilling actually think it has a chilling effect on democracy , effect on democracy, intimidating our elected members of parliament who , sorry, who of parliament who, sorry, who would want to be an mp for 80 5ka year when you've got the likes of just stop oil? >> i mean, we saw it with greenpeace sunak house greenpeace at rishi sunak house in all over greenpeace at rishi sunak house in roof all over greenpeace at rishi sunak house in roof and all over greenpeace at rishi sunak house in roof and his all over greenpeace at rishi sunak house in roof and his propertyl over greenpeace at rishi sunak house in roof and his property when his roof and his property when he was on holiday. forget rishi sunak, daughters were sunak, his young daughters were in america watching that unfold live on television. imagine what's through their head what's going through their head when back the uk when they come back to the uk saying that's heaven. would saying that's heaven. who would want ? i think people want to be an mp? i think people 5ka year where feel it's 5ka year where people feel it's

uh, people think it's, uh, fair game of people would game and a lot of people would say, you say, well, that's, you know, nearly the national nearly three times the national average, comes a lot average, but it comes with a lot of strings. average, but it comes with a lot of slet'ss. but shall move average, but it comes with a lot of sibecause but shall move average, but it comes with a lot of sibecause wet shall move average, but it comes with a lot of sibecause we are all move average, but it comes with a lot of sibecause we are going move average, but it comes with a lot of sibecause we are going to ove average, but it comes with a lot of sibecause we are going to be on? because we are going to be talking to matt vickers mp. yes. >> deputy chair of the conservative party at the top of the parliament, conservative party at the top of the are parliament, conservative party at the top of the are returning parliament, conservative party at the top of the are returning andirliament, conservative party at the top of the are returning and they1ent, conservative party at the top of the are returning and they will mps are returning and they will respond to the death of vocal putin, critic alexei navalny. yes this all comes as foreign secretary lord cameron calls for there to be consequences against there to be consequences against the kremlin, calling the death an appalling human rights outrage . outrage. >> but just what exactly can the uk government do in response . uk government do in response. >> it's okay, well, let's pose that exact question now to the deputy chair of the conservative party, matt vickers. matt haven't done we can so haven't we done all we can so far? i mean, what else is there to in terms of sanctioning to do in terms of sanctioning putin and russia ? putin and russia? >> i think we've got well , i >> i think we've got well, i think we've done a hell of a lot by things. by the looks of things. >> terms, actually, >> but in real terms, actually, you've a tribute to you've got to pay a tribute to the people of russia who are making the making a stand against the horrible is horrible tyrant in what is clearly the most challenging of circumstances you look at circumstances when you look at navalny, you look at what was an

incredibly brave campaign , and incredibly brave campaign, and i'm most of us i'm sure that most of us wouldn't making way wouldn't be, uh, making our way back to russia if we'd gone through some of the things that he's recent he's gone through in recent years. the to call years. he had the bottle to call out had the bottle out putin. he's had the bottle to call out corruption. the consequences obviously consequences are obviously horrendous end. consequences are obviously horrbut, us end. consequences are obviously horrbut, you end. consequences are obviously horrbut, you know end. consequences are obviously horrbut, you know , end. consequences are obviously horrbut, you know , sympathy nd. consequences are obviously horrbut, you know , sympathy to uh, but, you know, sympathy to the people of russia are the people of russia who are making against making a stand against this awful some of the things awful tyrant. some of the things that inflicted the that he's inflicted on the russian and more widely , russian people and more widely, um, i think, you know what? when you do has you look at whatever we do has to be done in lockstep with international partners here. you can't tell guys you're can't tell these guys you're coming for them advance, coming for them in advance, but be alone. be actually doing it alone. going it alone has no benefit . going it alone has no benefit. the reason what we did in ukraine was so effective is because together with because we came together with the broadest coalition of the broadest of coalition of international partners to deliver sanctions . the g7 deliver sanctions. the g7 delivered the most severe sanctions ever imposed on a major economy on russia. that's where we've got to. that's where the dial is at the moment. we'll see partners again. we'll see these partners again. we'll come with, well, we're come together with, well, we're seeing the in shortly . seeing the g20 in rio shortly. uh, those conversations be uh, those conversations will be

happening all the time to look at what more we can do to drive further sanctions, drive a bit more pain on the pockets of those people . those people. >> but, matt, this is the this is problem, though, isn't is the problem, though, isn't it? because as i understand, russia is now the most sanctioned on earth and sanctioned country on earth and yet putin shows no signs of, uh, well behaving as we would like him to . him to. >> i think you're right. i think you know what? there was an easy solution to this. we'd have done it. um, but actually 19,000 individuals and entities are currently being sanctioned, £20 billion in russian assets have been frozen . and we're going to been frozen. and we're going to have to the up again. have to turn the dial up again. we'll working with those we'll be working with those partners globe to partners across the globe to look what more can to look at what more we can do to drive some those people look at what more we can do to drivepropie those people look at what more we can do to drivepropie putin. those people look at what more we can do to drivepropie putin. and.e people look at what more we can do to drivepropie putin. and the zople who prop up putin. and the reality is that this thing will only because of brave only change because of brave people made people like navalny, who made the stood up to , to the stand, who stood up to, to this tyrant stood up to the corruption. uh, and took the stand. and actually the most horrendous of outcomes for him. uh, but it's on the russian people now and who people now and those who are supporting make the

change. >> and, matt, can i ask you briefly about this damning new poll in the telegraph about bringing borisjohnson, poll in the telegraph about bringing boris johnson, the bringing back boris johnson, the only saviour of the conservative party, apparently . uh, what do party, apparently. uh, what do you make of that? are we going to have a boris return? so i, you before i, before you know, before i, before i even have you on the call . even have you on the call. >> actually, i was up till the end . i stood by >> actually, i was up till the end. i stood by him till >> actually, i was up till the end . i stood by him till the end. i stood by him till the end. i stood by him till the end.the end. i stood by him till the end. the people in my part of the voted him. i'm the world voted for him. i'm hopeful that the people in my part world are going to part of the world are going to vote rishi. i think rishi vote for rishi. i think rishi is the you vote for rishi. i think rishi is the at you vote for rishi. i think rishi is the at some you vote for rishi. i think rishi is the at some of you vote for rishi. i think rishi is the at some of the you vote for rishi. i think rishi is the at some of the challenges u look at some of the challenges that we face now, whether that be issues the nhs the be the issues in the nhs on the back pandemic, whether be the issues in the nhs on the back be pandemic, whether be the issues in the nhs on the back be pancinflationiether be the issues in the nhs on the back be pancinflation down that be bringing inflation down or which has huge progress, or which has made huge progress, bringing down from in excess of 11% needs bright 11% down to 4, it needs a bright guy, a quy- 11% down to 4, it needs a bright guycanjuy. 11% down to 4, it needs a bright guycan we can rishi >> can we can we give rishi a point for that? inflation has gone down across the board. >> has. i think >> i think he has. i think there's to there's responsible decisions to be with be made. he's a guy with principles . be made. he's a guy with principles. he's a who's principles. he's a guy who's getting on the job. he's a getting on with the job. he's a bright um, and yeah, i'm bright fella. um, and yeah, i'm behind and we're going to behind him and we're going to march on to that election and we're see what comes. we're going to see what comes. um, think delivering um, but i think he's delivering on people on the things that people want to moment when i'm

to see at the moment when i'm out on doorstep, what people out on the doorstep, what people want stop want to hear does mps to stop talking own talking about our own psychodrama westminster, psychodrama in westminster, start talking to the public and deaung start talking to the public and dealing the issues dealing with the issues afterwards? behind the pm, afterwards? get behind the pm, get with job? get on with the job? >> just matt, while >> and just lastly, matt, while i've got you, concern to i've got you, um, concern to read that, uh, lord austin has been sacked from a housing association over his comments on social media. he said , uh, hamas social media. he said, uh, hamas are a death cult of islamist murderers and rapists. are a death cult of islamist murderers and rapists . should he murderers and rapists. should he have been sacked for that? is thatis have been sacked for that? is that is islamophobic? is what he said inappropriate ? said inappropriate? >> i obviously don't know the ins and outs of it, but hamas are a terrorist organisation who inflicted some of the worst atrocities possible on people. um, and what the crux of the entire debate with israel and palestine is featured on, people with very strong opinions on both sides. but whatever i think both sides. but whatever i think both sides. but whatever i think both sides need to acknowledge that hamas are terrorists. uh, and we need forwards and and we need to move forwards and we until we can't move forwards until they're of office. they're out of office. >> well, thank you very much indeed, matt vickers, great to

speak deputy chair of speak to you, deputy chair of the thank the conservative party. thank you . you. >> admire his loyalty to >> well, i admire his loyalty to rishi, despite being one of the few remaining boris loyalists before he finally fell on his sword. >> i just worry that when we're assessing whether sanctions were and of course, it's one of many tools it comes to trying tools when it comes to trying to, know , change a rogue to, uh, you know, change a rogue nafion to, uh, you know, change a rogue nation , one's behaviour. it nation, one's behaviour. it doesn't seem as though they're having the desired effect. we've frozen billions of assets. we've sanctioned oligarchs , we've sanctioned oligarchs, we've sanctioned oligarchs, we've sanctioned the kremlin. yet it seems as though putin just shifts his. you know, shifts his, uh, his position on all this, all this posturing about going to war with russia. >> i think is highly misguided. i love my country, i love britain, and very patriotic. but let's on earth is let's be frank, what on earth is britain going to do in a war against russia ? they they out, against russia? they they out, they us. they outnumber they outspend us. they outnumber us all fronts . us on all fronts. >> yeah, well, i think we're right stand stand behind right to stand stand behind ukraine as as we can. but ukraine as much as we can. but i am sceptical sometimes of how effective are. but let effective sanctions are. but let us know what you think.

vaiews@gbnews.com. and should schools ban pupils from having mobile phones ? should teachers mobile phones? should teachers open pupils bags? search for the mobile phone, take it out and ban it in schools? the governments to issue new guidance on this very issue. >> yeah this is good afternoon britain on gb news, britain's news channel. with .

radio. welcome back. >> it's 1224. you're with ben and emily on good afternoon britain on gb news emails flying in about boris johnson . of in about boris johnson. of course, pro and against. anthony says if boris and nigel farage would compromise joe, joined by jacob rees—mogg and lee anderson to lead a new political party. i would put my life on them, winning a 100 plus seats majority . majority. >> well, there you go, guy says. please please stop mentioning bofis.

please please stop mentioning boris . he's a clown and boris. he's a clown and a traitor . boris. he's a clown and a traitor. he's the one who wasted all those votes . and he goes on all those votes. and he goes on to mention things like .netzero. to mention things like .net zero. yep. and also his failure on immigration. uh, also says on just stop oil they're idiots and should be locked up for six months. so there you go. thanks for your views, guy. marion for your views, guy. and marion says, to support boris says, i used to support boris johnson, gone. woke and johnson, but he's gone. woke and jacqueline says, absolutely , jacqueline says, absolutely, bnng jacqueline says, absolutely, bring back boris. so there you go. mixed bag, a mixed bag on go. a mixed bag, a mixed bag on that one. that's the thing he started a conservative. started as a conservative. >> and argument he a >> and the argument is he went a bit wishy washy liberal. but yeah, we move on. yeah, we'll see. we move on. >> people do blame >> although people do blame carrie think carrie for that, which i think is bit i boris is a bit harsh. i think boris johnson has own, well , not johnson has his own, well, not his own plans also his johnson has his own, well, not his > but i think i think there's more to it than that. don't want to pin it on but sexist to to pin it on her, but sexist to move on to these things. move on to on to these things. >> across

>> mobile phones, schools across england, uh, will review new guidance their pupils guidance on banning their pupils from using phones in from using mobile phones in class . class. >> yes. government hopes it >> yes. the government hopes it will bring clarity and consistency classrooms , consistency to all classrooms, and teachers should be to prepared conduct searches, searches of their school bags. >> yeah, but you're better than having to search knives, having to search for knives, isn't it? >> yeah. >> yeah. >> quite true. the union representing headteacher says rules and rules are already in place. and this non—policy for this is a quote non—policy for a non—problem. but we're joined now hemmings , behavioural now by jo hemmings, behavioural psychologist, who is an expert on all these things. jo, i have a big question. what does it do to the young mind of a ten, 11, 12 year old flicking through social media and getting those dopamine rushes every ten 15 seconds? what does it do for someone's concentration and their focus in the classroom ? their focus in the classroom? >> well, it's not great. obviously, if they're using the phonein obviously, if they're using the phone in the classroom and they're scrolling through and they've open, they've got several apps open, as get the as you say, they get the dopamine hit, but they also get the on the phone and the focus on the phone and they're focusing on what's they're not focusing on what's going classroom. going on in the classroom. >> , know, i feel is >> so, you know, what i feel is needed here is not a blanket ban

on actually anything that's on actually on anything that's illegal. that's just illegal. i think that's just wrong. i mean, 97% of children 12 and over have a mobile phone . 12 and over have a mobile phone. i do think you could teach responsible usage of phone and what you just said, tom, about dopamine hits, that sort of thing should be taught in the classroom. this is why our phones addictive. um, and phones are addictive. um, and i just think that responsible usage of phones, understanding that you can control it rather than it controlling you, is really important because if you ban them, it just makes them seem, you know, more , more seem, you know, more, more desirable because you know , and desirable because you know, and searching through kids bags to find phones, it's all a bit, um , pleasant. >> you think it's a bit much ? >> you think it's a bit much? you think it's a bit much. i just worry that children don't have enough self—control role, particularly with their peers , particularly with their peers, when they're sending things over whatsapp, over snapchat, over instagram, over twitter, whatever it is, there's probably other apps that we don't even know young use know about that young people use . and there's so much pressure on them to, to, to use and instantly react. so if the

teachers just say no once you enter the classroom , phones are enter the classroom, phones are not allowed. we'll keep them in a locker for you. you can pick them up when you need to leave school, there's an school, or if there's an emergency like emergency that seems like a pretty compromise that pretty decent compromise that i think of teachers think a lot of head teachers would like. >> i totally agree. >> i totally agree. >> but you know, given that mobile have been mobile phones have been around for, what, 15, 20 years, most schools have already developed a protocol on this, um, and different schools will have different schools will have different protocols and i think it's up to head teachers to decide what to do for their school. i just think this blanket ban and sometimes a phonein blanket ban and sometimes a phone in a classroom , um, phone in a classroom, um, actually can help , um, with actually can help, um, with what's being taught. and i do think that that responsible usage so that they that we know how phones and kids work, we know they get obsessed with them. they know they can't put them. they know they can't put them down. but but this is not a new problem. the cork has been off the technological bottle for 15 years. plus it's been proposed 5 or 6 times by the government . i just feel it's government. i just feel it's down to individual schools . i do

down to individual schools. i do agree that they are addictive, and i do think it's actually part of the teaching curriculum should be, you know, why they're even thinking of banning them. this is what phones to this is what the phones do to you. and this is, know, you you. and this is, you know, you know , a way, a better way of know, a way, a better way of kind managing, know, a way, a better way of kind managing , getting your kind of managing, getting your self control with the phone. kind of managing, getting your selfjoe,itrol with the phone. kind of managing, getting your selfjoe, i'ol with the phone. kind of managing, getting your selfjoe, i wasith the phone. kind of managing, getting your selfjoe, i was absolutelyne. kind of managing, getting your selfjoe, i was absolutely stunned >> joe, i was absolutely stunned by this from ofcom that 97% by this stat from ofcom that 97% of 12 year olds have a mobile phone.is of 12 year olds have a mobile phone. is that an appropriate age for a kid to have a smartphone with access to the internet and all it entails as well? >> i think we're very tempted to think of these phones as being evil things. yeah, i do, because once they're 11, they generally tend to go to secondary school on their own and that's the point which they do want point at which they do want a phone. they do to able phone. they do want to be able to mum or dad or to tell their mum or dad or whoever they're going to be late. didn't come or late. the bus didn't come or whatever's there, whatever's going on there, they've detention because they've got detention because they've got detention because they've phone . um, you they've got a phone. um, you know, should so know, there should be so i totally understand why 97% of children have them. that's children have them. and that's what court what i mean about that court being off the bottle. we make it

out to be evil thing. out to be such an evil thing. the phone that i think it just makes it more desirable for kids. if you have a phone, kids. yeah. if you have a phone, i don't know how children i just don't know how children deal it these days. deal with it these days. >> i cast mind back to >> if i cast my mind back to being teenager when had being a teenager when i had my phone and the amount of peer pressure just seeing that there was a party on facebook that you weren't seeing that weren't invited to, seeing that your friends had been taking pictures and you weren't invited, or i remember one of my friends looking through phone invited, or i remember one of my friends itext ng through phone invited, or i remember one of my friends itext messages] phone invited, or i remember one of my friends itext messages to phone invited, or i remember one of my friends itext messages to see ione invited, or i remember one of my friends itext messages to see ifne and my text messages to see if any boys had been messaging me, and i was you know, and none had. so i was you know, hideously embarrassed. and of course, very course, that's that's very minor. there's minor. of course, there's serious things that go on, like grooming and, and actual proper bullying . bullying. >> but the thing is, when back in my day , if you if you got in my day, if you if you got bullied at school, you'd go home and your sanctuary bullied at school, you'd go home and your your sanctuary bullied at school, you'd go home and your refuge. your sanctuary bullied at school, you'd go home and your refuge. these' sanctuary bullied at school, you'd go home and your refuge. these days tuary bullied at school, you'd go home and your refuge. these days i, ary bullied at school, you'd go home and your refuge. these days i, iy and your refuge. these days i, i look at my niece, she, you know, she's a whatsapp she's got a whatsapp group of friends it's friends and stuff and it's constantly 24, seven. you're getting bullied all time. getting bullied all the time. there's it , i agree. >> so that should be part of a discussion about responsible phone usage. look, when you go

on jury service or something, whatever, you have to have your phone there are phone locked away. if there are schools that must schools that say that must happen, okay. it's happen, then that's okay. it's the idea of this blanket ban. yeah >> you think it should be specific to the school? thank you so much. thank you so much for your time. jo hemmings, really interesting to to really interesting to talk to you. behavioural psychologist. we're debating this we're going to be debating this later actually, later in the show actually, because very because we've got two very different this . different views on this. >> i feel sorry that no boys were you in school . were texting you in school. >> yeah, i know, but i went >> yeah, i know, but when i went to school. you know, >> yeah, i know, but when i went to were school. you know, >> yeah, i know, but when i went to were few ol. you know, >> yeah, i know, but when i went to were few and you know, >> yeah, i know, but when i went to were few and farou know, >> yeah, i know, but when i went to were few and far between. they were few and far between. yeah not one yeah the humiliation of not one boy a text message . boy sending you a text message. >> you. i'm sure they're >> poor you. i'm sure they're flooding in now, though. >> but >> well, there you go. yes, but i engaged, so there we are. i am engaged, so there we are. >> coming up, police >> right coming up, police officers in nottingham have angered three angered the families of three people stabbed last year people fatally stabbed last year after reportedly sharing graphic details case. details about the case. >> we're going to have more on that your headlines that after your news headlines with . with sam. >> ben . emily, thank you very >> ben. emily, thank you very much. it'sjust >> ben. emily, thank you very much. it's just gone. 1231 and

we start this half hour with some news coming to us from bristol that a major crime investigation is now underway after three young children were found dead. officers responded to a welfare call there and found the bodies of a boy aged seven. a three year old girl and a ten month old boy. a 42 year old woman was arrested at the scene. she was then taken to hospital and is still in police custody. we understand forensic examinations are now underway to determine how those three children died. police say a local church has been opened in the area to help people to gather and mourn, while community officers will remain in the area over the coming days . the widow of alexei navalny says russian authorities are deliberately withholding his body until traces of the nerve agent novichok disappear from his system , she says. in his system, she says. in a message posted to social media. yulia yulia navalny vowed to continue his work, saying that she wants to live in a free russia. she also said that the

reason for his death is known and the details of those responsible will be made public. >> alexei putin, putin killed my children's father . children's father. >> putin took away the most dear person i have ever had. >> i want to live in a free russia . russia. >> i want to build a free russia i >> -- >> well, hm >> well, that comes as mr navalny's mother and his lawyer were seen visiting the local prosecutor's office in the city, near to where he died last week. but a spokesperson said they weren't allowed into the morgue , weren't allowed into the morgue, where his body is believed to be held, adding that they were literally pushed out . and we can literally pushed out. and we can take you live now to bristol, where police are giving an update after the bodies of those three young children were found. the continue the river soar and we continue to use the helicopter at and aerial technology to try and locate the little boy . locate the little boy. >> our priority for leicestershire police is to make

sure that we find this little boy . boy. >> i would like to thank members of the public for all their support. yesterday today and um , support. yesterday today and um, but at the same time, i would like to really emphasise how dangerous this area is at the moment and ask that members of the public do refrain from coming back to this location for their own safety , and also their own safety, and also because, as i've said, we've got a very professional, a very coordinated search in place and we wouldn't want anything to jeopardise the best opportunity we've got of locating this little boy . little boy. >> i am happy to take any questions should anybody wish . questions should anybody wish. the child . yeah, the child was the child. yeah, the child was with family at the time . i'm with family at the time. i'm afraid i'm not able to share that at the moment, but we do know that he was with family at the time that he entered the river. i had heard the

circumstances surrounding how the child got into the apologies . could you say that again? the helicopter is very loud. >> tell us about the circumstances surrounding the child into river. child going into the river. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> so as i've just said, the child family at child was with family members at the he went into the the time that he went into the water and we do know that one person into the river soar person went into the river soar in an attempt to try and get the child . but sadly, at this moment child. but sadly, at this moment we still haven't been able to find the child . find the child. >> is that the person is in hospital now, so there isn't anybody hospital at the anybody in hospital at the moment. >> individual did go to >> uh, an individual did go to the as the hospital yesterday as a precautionary measure. um, and indeed that, um, that is linked to the rescue for the child . to the rescue for the child. >> are you. i should take a step back. police there are just giving an update on the situation in leicester after a two year old boy fell into the river soar. >> we were also expecting an update from police from the incident in bristol, as well. when we get that, we will bring bnng when we get that, we will bring bring it to you. of course. here on gb news but just to update

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>> you're listening to gb news radio . radio. >> it's 1239. you're watching and listening to good afternoon britain on gb news. now, the families of the three people who were stabbed to death in nottingham last year are reportedly now sickened to learn that officers shared that police officers shared graphic of their loved

graphic details of their loved ones injuries in a whatsapp group. >> yes, barnaby weber and grace o'malley kumar, both aged 19, andian o'malley kumar, both aged 19, and ian coates, were killed by valdo calocane last june. now last month he was convicted of manslaughter by reason of diminished responsibility , diminished responsibility, sentenced to an indefinite detention in a high security hospital. >> but the question is, is this appropriate for police officers to be using using whatsapp and sharing the gory details, essentially, of three murders? >> yeah, we've seen it before haven't we, in cases in london, but we're joined now by norman brennan, who's a met brennan, who's a former met police and now the police officer and now the director law order director of the law and order foundation. norman i'm just going to play, mean, devil's going to play, i mean, devil's advocate course, this advocate here. of course, this story is terrible. what the officers did is absolutely reprehensible . evil, however, is reprehensible. evil, however, is there a case for police forces to maybe deal with the constant exposure of officers to grisly scenes to murder scenes, car crashes? what kind of effect does that have on an officer? doesit does that have on an officer? does it descend , ties them,

does it descend, ties them, which then causes them to go and commit ? um, which then causes them to go and commit? um, uh , incidents like commit? um, uh, incidents like this ? this? >> not really at all. >> not really at all. >> um, in my 31 years, uh, i attended dozens of , um, suicides i >> -- >> uh, the devastation was horrendous . uh, we picked >> uh, the devastation was horrendous. uh, we picked up devastation . we then had to deal devastation. we then had to deal with the families in the aftermath. um, and, and yet we do get slightly desensitised. it is a bit like stabbings at the moment. the whole country is desensitised because the news is so prevalent. >> it's almost daily now. >> it's almost daily now. >> murder. so people become impotent to the shock and police officers because they deal with serious and devastating crime almost every day of their life . almost every day of their life. they do become a bit desensitised, but it doesn't take away that you've got to be act with passion and also professionalism. i mean, i personally have dedicated the last 35 years of my life to

looking after the devastation and families of homicide . i've and families of homicide. i've met up to a thousand families, people like denise bulger, sarah payne, damilola taylor and even the victims of, uh, myra hindley andian the victims of, uh, myra hindley and ian brady. and i know that if they knew that there were photographs taken and shared around by police and their friends , um, they would have friends, um, they would have been further hurt, further harmed , and it would leave harmed, and it would leave a long lasting thought that even the police couldn't respect them . well, the police do . . well, the police do. >> yeah. and that's what the victims families have said. emma webber, who was the mother of barnaby webber, one of the victims, said , says, uh, we victims, said, says, uh, we can't emphasise how painful this tragedy is and to learn that there has been internal, needless voyeurism of the vicious knife attacks on our loved ones is unforgivable. that's what it seems like, doesn't it? needless voyeurism and of course, they weren't just sharing the images in their own

internal whatsapp group . there's internal whatsapp group. there's reports that one of the members, one of the police officers, forwarded it to his wife and a friend was sharing the gory details with people who aren't even police officers . it what even police officers. it what are they playing at? >> well, it's grotesque and absolutely unacceptable. the only cold comfort is just like, uh, the murderer that was once a police officer. uh, david carrick , that was once a police carrick, that was once a police officer . these two carrick, that was once a police officer. these two individuals commit such horrific crimes that it shocked even us. the police family. so the cold comfort is almost without exception. and unfortunately , you have unfortunately, you have highlighted the exceptions . and highlighted the exceptions. and there was also a couple in relation to two ladies that were murdered in the met area police do not take photographs. they do not share photographs . and in not share photographs. and in fact, when i was a detective , i fact, when i was a detective, i attended sudden deaths . the attended sudden deaths. the uniform officers would call me

or suspicious deaths. never once did i think about taking a photograph or sharing. uh, yeah . photograph or sharing. uh, yeah. any details like that with any of my friends or associates? if i felt that photographs needed to be taken, which they often were, i called the scenes of crimes officer there. the professional. they're the ones that be taking that should be taking photographs i can say to photographs and all i can say to the british police service is this got to this is, look, you have got to act exemplary. you're under. you're under the headlights day in and day out. what you say , in and day out. what you say, what you do, how you act. you have got to be exemplary on and off duty. and you do not share social media items that you yourself may well arrest someone for. yeah, yeah . for. yeah, yeah. >> well, let's hope that this let's hope that this serves as a warning to other police officers to not even consider doing the same in the future. thank you very much. to great speak to you. norman brennan, former you. norman brennan, a former met director met police officer and director of foundation. okay. >> statement @—- >> in a statement to the daily telegraph, deputy chief constable steve cooper of nottinghamshire police , said uh, nottinghamshire police, said uh, our professional

our force's professional standards directorate found one message posted on a whatsapp group and took action immediately . immediately. >> so there you go. that's what they have to say, say, say. but still to come. a hospital claims i can't believe this claims milk from trans women who were born male is just as good for babies as the milk from a woman's breast. can that be true? we'll find out you're watching. good afternoon, britain on .

radio. >> welcome back . it's 1248. >> welcome back. it's 1248. you're watching and listening to good afternoon britain. just a quick note on the previous story we were talking about about the police sharing graphic police officers sharing graphic details. it was graphic details of the killings in nottingham rather than images. i think they misspoke . their graphic details, misspoke. their graphic details, which are one could say is, is just as bad .

just as bad. >> right. well, let's get something a bit lighter where we a of good news. prince a bit of good news. the prince of announced of wales. he's announced plans to homes duchy to build homes on the duchy of cornwall tackle cornwall land to tackle homelessness in the south—west of working alongside of england, working alongside homelessness charities saint petroc's , the project will petroc's, the project will provide new homes newquay provide 24 new homes in newquay with, quote, wrap around support for local people experiencing homelessness to create a path to a permanent home. >> right? let's speak to gb news royal cameron royal correspondent cameron walker, details for walker, who has the details for us. remember about us. i remember hearing about this and now it's this initially and now it's happening. yeah exactly. >> emily, i think this has been a long time coming for the prince of wales. he first visited in visited homeless shelters in london his princess london with his mother, princess diana , and really been diana, and it really has been a passion his ever since. he's passion of his ever since. he's become a working member the become a working member of the royal particular, now royal family in particular, now that prince of wales and that he's prince of wales and has access to 130,000 acres across the country , mainly in across the country, mainly in the southwest of england, which is £1 billion, that is the is worth £1 billion, that is the duchy of cornwall, of course. so this is the first official announcements of a phase of new affordable homes to be built on

duchy lands. 24 as you say. but i think it's the wraparound support that goes with it is the most significant here that wraparound support includes mental health support, counselling services, training and employment opportunities because people at risk of homelessness, um , which has been homelessness, um, which has been kind of said by a lot of charities, the prince of wales work with, they do tend to have mental health issues or problems with addiction or need employment. so that's kind of the idea. 24 homes doesn't sound very much, does it? but it is understood that there are a number of projects in the number of other projects in the pipeline which will create hundreds more homes around the country as well. last year , country as well. last year, prince william launched homewards, which is his five year campaign on projects worth £3 million to prove that homelessness can be ended . and homelessness can be ended. and the idea with this new place in nanageddon, which is a suburb of newquay, and the six locations for homewards around the country, is there going to be kind of blueprints to demonstrate how homelessness can

be ended? y with with business businesses and councils working together, which can then be rolled out across the country. but clearly it's not just prince william who solve this by william who can solve this by himself. more himself. he needs a lot more people board. himself. he needs a lot more peo no, board. himself. he needs a lot more peo no, lit'sd. himself. he needs a lot more peo no, lit's great have >> no, but it's great to have him advocate. thank you him as an advocate. thank you very much. cameron walker, our royal correspondent. stuff. >> now, fury mim- >> now, fury has been sparked after a letter from an after a leaked letter from an nhs drug induced nhs trust revealed drug induced milk from transgender women. biological men is just as good for babies as a woman's breast milk, with medical director describing both types as human milk and not women's milk, adding that they're the ideal food for infant babies. well joining us now is political commentator and author tonia buxton. >> tony, so when i read this headline, i thought, goodness me, i mean, a lot of women are going to be fuming at this. >> well, it's you know what? >> well, it's you know what? >> what really worries me is that when you've had a baby, everything is about the baby when you're pregnant. when i wrote actually on wrote a book, actually on holistic pregnancy called have a baby and better than ever, and i

wrote book, oh, years wrote that book, oh, 28 years ago. wrote that book, oh, 28 years agoand nothing's changed since >> and nothing's changed since then sense that then in the sense that everything you as a pregnant everything you do as a pregnant woman is for your baby. i wouldn't take any form of medication at all. >> not a single thing, because i was worried about it crossing the placenta . and whilst i was the placenta. and whilst i was breastfeeding my four children, i would be very, very careful about the food i took in. you know, i never take any know, i would never take any type of pharmaceutical unless it was necessary . so to was absolutely necessary. so to just have this. so just so we can make someone feel good about their life style choices, because what it is, is they are trying to pump these poor newborn cars full of drugs because that's what they are being pumped full of a man cannot breastfeed a child with nutritious milk. so what they're doing is they're using them as guinea pigs. >> tonya what they have to do as you've alluded to, is take a cocktail of powerful drugs, one being motilium, being a drug called motilium, which on the label says may cause heart problems for not

only the person taking it, but of course the newborn as well . of course the newborn as well. >> absolutely. i mean, it's insane. >> absolutely. i mean, it's insane . so if you've got insane. so if you've got a biological male who has is taking testosterone blockers in to order be able to grow breasts, and so there's lots of oestrogen and progesterone that they'll have to take in order to try and make breast tissue in order to grow this. and then, as you said, there's a whole cocktail drugs that we cocktail of other drugs that we just don't know what they do. so you've got to think about it. if you're are breastfeeding a male baby blockers baby with testosterone blockers and lots of oestrogen and progesterone, synthetic hormones , what is that going to do to the what is that doing to the baby? what is that doing to it? but the reality, tanya, just very we're very quickly because we're running out of time, sadly. >> say this is >> but some would say this is progress. this is the power of science. this is a good thing . science. this is a good thing. >> complete idiots would say that who are using babies as guinea pigs in order to justify lifestyle choices . it's wrong on lifestyle choices. it's wrong on every single level. >> well, there you go. strong stuff. tanya buxton. always great to speak to you. political

commentator and author. >> know what? it's no >> and you know what? it's no surprise it was the surprise that it was the university hospitals nhs sussex trust, sussex of course, being home to brighton , where i live home to brighton, where i live near probably the wokeist city in the uk, it was no surprise when i saw it was sussex leading the charge on this. i just think a lot of women will read this and think, okay, well, so women are just redundant. so what an inqu are just redundant. so what an insult to women. >> we're just redundant. >> we're just redundant. >> insult to women who >> what an insult to women who don't even need breast milk don't even need the breast milk going through pregnancy. they put on the line and put their bodies on the line and even pregnancy , even after pregnancy, breastfeeding is a big deal for women. women can't do it. women. some women can't do it. it's a very laborious process. women. some women can't do it. it's there' laborious process. women. some women can't do it. it's there' laigo.)us process. women. some women can't do it. it'swella' laigo. )us process. women. some women can't do it. it's well , laigo. )us process. women. some women can't do it. it's well , let go. )us process. women. some women can't do it. it's well , let us )us process. women. some women can't do it. it's well , let us knowocess. women. some women can't do it. it's well , let us know what. >> well, let us know what you think. vaiews@gbnews.com. but coming should we bring back coming up should we bring back boris? asking because a boris? we're asking because a massive survey of conservative voters says that they would like bofis voters says that they would like boris johnson to come back to office. could he actually decide to? we'll be discussing that and much more after the .

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>> good afternoon britain. >> it's 1:00 >> good afternoon britain. >> it's1:00 on monday 19th of february morning to the kremlin . february morning to the kremlin. >> britain will take action over the death of russian opposition leader alexei navalny , warns leader alexei navalny, warns david cameron as mps return to the of commons today. david cameron as mps return to the of commons today . but the house of commons today. but with already in place , with sanctions already in place, what putin to what does holding putin to account actually look like in practice and sacked for criticising hamas? >> former labour minister lord austin has been controversially suspended as the chair of a housing association after describing hamas as, quote , describing hamas as, quote, islamist rapists and murderers. housing minister michael gove has demanded an urgent explanation and militant environmental campaign group just stop oil is reportedly planning a series of protests at the homes of mps. >> they're known for targeting major roads, museums and sporting events, but they're now going to take their action to the doorsteps of elected politicians. is democracy .

politicians. is this democracy. >> yes. and you've been getting in touch about a myriad of stories today, not least including boris johnson. it's going wild in the inbox, but a few particular emails about mobile phones in schools. mark, good afternoon to you, mark. he says pupils are in school to listen to and focus on what the teacher is teaching. the standard secondary academy standard of secondary academy education the uk in the uk is education on the uk in the uk is already very poor. >> yeah, and we spoke to a behavioural psychologist earlier in the hour and she was saying that teachers should speak to children about and just teach them about you know, when mobile phone use can go wrong and some of the harms and potential bad things that can happen. but jeff says, so you want to discuss with ten and 11 year old kids about the harm of mobile phone use. with that. you use. good luck with that. you just tell them phones just have to tell them phones are and if parents need are banned and if parents need to contact their kids vice to contact their kids or vice versa, then it through versa, then do it through the school tend school instead. i would tend to agree there, jeff . i agree with you there, jeff. i think all well and good think it's all well and good having conversations think it's all well and good having potentialconversations think it's all well and good having potential harms;ations think it's all well and good having potential harms .tions think it's all well and good having potential harms . buts about the potential harms. but at 12 years old,

at ten, 11, 12 years old, children , i think you're children, i think you're probably not going to get it. you can't just listen to what they to say. they have to say. >> have a compromise >> can we not have a compromise where to school with as where they go to school with as what some people call the old bncks? what some people call the old bricks? remember the bricks? do you remember the nokia tens? no access to the nokia 33 tens? no access to the internet , just can you internet, just a phone. can you imagine, though? >> always >> because there'll always be one latest top one child who has the latest top of range and then of the range phone. and then there's breaks loose. there's all hell breaks loose. but blanket ban on but jan says a blanket ban on phones my 12 year old phones would put my 12 year old grandson suffers grandson at risk. he suffers from has an from severe allergies and has an epipen for anaphylaxis. he needs to be able to contact the emergency services. that's a very good point, but i would assume be assume that a school would be able a special able to make a special arrangements who arrangements for children who again, in that case, just use the brick. >> no internet access, but you can make so would can make calls. so that would solve would it. if they >> that would solve it. if they still those. perhaps >> that would solve it. if they sti|amazon.»se. perhaps >> that would solve it. if they stiiamazon. anyway, perhaps >> that would solve it. if they stiiamazon. anyway, let's1aps on amazon. anyway, let's get your headlines. ben your news headlines. ben >> emily, thank you very much. it's just coming up to 1:03. and we start with some breaking news. a man who piloted a boat across the english channel has

today been found guilty of manslaughter. it's after four migrants drowned when that boat ran into difficulty in december of 2022. ibrahim abbas, who's a senegalese migrant, claimed that he had sailed boats before , he had sailed boats before, which meant that he was allowed to make the journey free of charge, while others on board paid judge today paid thousands. the judge today said the boat was navigated using mobile phones and as using only mobile phones and as a result of his actions for people lost their lives. we will, of course, keep across that story for you throughout the rest of this afternoon . a the rest of this afternoon. a major crime investigation is underway in bristol after three young children were found dead. officers respond to a welfare call and found the bodies of a boy, aged seven and a three year old girl and a ten month old boy , a 42 year old woman was arrested at the scene and she was then taken to hospital . we was then taken to hospital. we understand she is still in police custody. forensic examinations are now underway to determine how those three children died. police have also said a local church has been

opened for people to gather and mourn, while community officers will remain in the area over the coming days . will remain in the area over the coming days. in other will remain in the area over the coming days . in other news, the coming days. in other news, the widow of alexei navalny has said that russian authorities are deliberately withholding his body until traces of the nerve agent novichok disappear from his system. in a message posted to social media earlier, yulia navalny vowed to continue his work, saying that she wants to live in a free russia. she also said that the reason for his death is known, and the details of those who are responsible will be made public. >> alexei putin, putin killed my children , father putin took away children, father putin took away the most dear person i have ever had . i want to live in the most dear person i have ever had. i want to live in a the most dear person i have ever had . i want to live in a free had. i want to live in a free russia . i want to build a free russia. i want to build a free russia. i want to build a free russia . russia. >> it comes as navalny's mother and his lawyer were seen visiting the local prosecutor's office in the city, near to where he died last week. but a

spokesperson said that they weren't allowed into the morgue, where his body believed where his body is believed to be, adding that they were literally pushed out . they say literally pushed out. they say in leicester, a search has been expanded after two year old boy fell into the river soar. emergency services responded just after 5:00 last night to an area near marston lane. leicestershire police are leading that ongoing operation in the area and have now deployed additional specialist teams . officers say rising water teams. officers say rising water levels, though , are presenting levels, though, are presenting some danger and they've asked the public to keep away from the area . new guidance has been area. new guidance has been issued today for teachers in england to allow the banning of mobile phones in schools. head teachers can now choose to include a ban on phones in their schools behaviour policy , with schools behaviour policy, with provisions for searches if necessary. the union, representing head teachers, though, says robust rules already exist and they've dismissed the guidelines as what they've called a non policy for a non—problem. well earlier, the education secretary, gillian keegan, said that the government

is in ensuring clarity and consistency exists across all classrooms . classrooms. >> what we're trying to do is change the social norm, change the norm in our schools, that that phones are are not acceptable in our schools . and acceptable in our schools. and but some other countries have already done this. quite a few countries have done countries have already done this. we just want make this. and we just want to make sure it's consistent we sure that it's consistent and we make it clear and we empower head to do this. and we head teachers to do this. and we think that this is think that mostly this is something that parents would welcome. >> well , we've heard welcome. >> well, we've heard today that a uk cargo ship in the red sea has been attacked by yemen's houthi rebels, forcing the crew on board that ship to abandon it . the uk's maritime authority confirmed the ship sustained catastrophic damage in a missile attack off the coast of yemen and is now at risk of sinking. we understand it comes as the eu prepares to launch its new mission to protect commercial vessels in the red sea, after the uk and the us also sent their own military ships to the region in december. it comes as attacks on vessels by the houthis, who were backed by iran

, are starting to have an economic impact by disrupting cargo between asia and cargo shipments between asia and europe . and finally, the average europe. and finally, the average asking price for a home in britain has now jumped by more than £3,000 this month, according to the property website rightmove. falling mortgage rates and more stable condition in the market are driving that surge , meaning the driving that surge, meaning the average house is now worth just over £362,000. however, agents are warning sellers to set attractive asking prices before potential pre—election jitters. the momentum in the market comes as sales agreed in the first six weeks of this year are up 16% on the same period last year. for the same period last year. for the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen. or, of course, go to our website gb news .com/ alerts . news .com/ alerts. >> now, the government is currently assessing its response

to the death of jailed vladimir putin critic alexei navalny . putin critic alexei navalny. lord cameron has suggested there could be more sanctions on russian as shadow russian officials as shadow foreign secretary david lammy called on the government to review sanctions and undertake new efforts to those new efforts to target those responsible for corruption. >> yes, well , joining us now in >> yes, well, joining us now in the studio is our reporter , the studio is our reporter, charlie peters, who's been following this closely. charlie lots of talk of additional sanctions, crackdown on corruption. what might this mean in practice? >> well, in the last hour in brussels , the eu's foreign brussels, the eu's foreign policy chief, josep borrell, has indicated to reporters there that there could be fresh sanctions from the eu on the russian regime, indicating in particular that that might take the form of targeting those within the institution of the penitentiary system in russia , penitentiary system in russia, suggesting that there is some european an awareness and security knowledge on those involved with the death of alexei navalny last week, that

could also include the possible links of any fsb agents , that links of any fsb agents, that is, the air, the successor to the kgb inside russia. >> we do know from reports out of russia that fsb agents did visit navalny in prison two days before his death . and there are before his death. and there are also some reports we haven't been able to verify that they turned off listening devices and cctv equipment inside that penal colony in the baltics. so david cameron , the foreign secretary, cameron, the foreign secretary, is expected to echo those calls with fresh sanctions from britain and the shadow foreign secretary, david lammy, has also today called on britain to review its sanctions list. and in particular he's referred to this list, called the navalny list. the navalny 35. and this is a collection of kleptocrats and corrupt actors within russia that the now deceased activist said were involved in the regime. calling on the government to take a look at

that avenue as well. he also went one step further. david lammy he said that britain had become the money laundering capital of the world and looked particularly towards london, saying that if we're going to clean up this situation , we also clean up this situation, we also need rid of dirty money need to get rid of dirty money outside capital. outside of the capital. >> but charlie, haven't we, um , >> but charlie, haven't we, um, well, not just us. haven't nafions well, not just us. haven't nations across the world in response to russia's invasion of ukraine. already they ukraine. already done all they can in terms seizing assets can in terms of seizing assets from oligarchs and essentially what that does, of course, is it loses support for putin. haven't we done all we can on that front? >> well, there's been no shortages of sanctions on russian actors over the last two years, in particular. spot on ben. but the problem that they have as a consequence of these sanctions is that russia is still plenty of money still earning plenty of money through the sale of its energy products , in particular in products, in particular in germany , where, of course, there germany, where, of course, there is a significant energy shortage as a consequence of the start of this war in ukraine. but other actors inside europe who are

engaged with supporting ukraine do point towards significant areas where there could be improvements from the international diplomatic and security established point in particular pointing towards the supply of arms . the $60 billion supply of arms. the $60 billion aid package currently held up in congress in washington , but also congress in washington, but also pointing towards the failure for european nations to ramp up their production of weaponry. if we can't prevent russians from being killed inside russia, then critics say we might be able to reduce russia's violent impact outside of its own borders. at the moment , there has been the moment, there has been a swing towards russian military support. in the last week they achieved their first major victory in over a year in an eastern town just north of donetsk. they had a manpower advantage, according to some reports of 15 to 1, and overwhelmed artillery support . overwhelmed artillery support. the supply of arms towards the ukrainian military, according to european officials, is going to

be vital in showing support towards ukraine and many hope that the sad demise of leading critic navalny may actually remove some of the blockages towards that support, and could see a greater impetus on supporting the ukrainian military. >> well, thank you very much indeed, charlie peters, our reporter there, bringing us the latest . there's a problem with latest. there's a problem with sanctions, because sanctions, isn't it, because russia may well have few allies when it comes to the west, but but it does have allies elsewhere in the world. >> i remember when whom they continue selling. >> i remember when roman abramovich had his yacht seized all over the world. >> mean , if they can >> and yeah, i mean, if they can do more on that front, great. but with this but you do wonder now, with this death navalny, it's only death of navalny, it's only going strengthen as going to strengthen the case as charlie aid to ukraine. >> well, we shall see. um, just stop oil activists, though , are stop oil activists, though, are reportedly planning to occupy the homes before the next the homes of mps before the next general election. >> yes, the environmental campaign is notorious for blocking roads to face the artworks and interrupting theatre and snooker theatre shows and snooker

championships. , but championships. of course, but they are now said to be preparing elected preparing to target elected politicians . so let's speak to politicians. so let's speak to doctor bing jones , who's a doctor bing jones, who's a spokesperson just stop oil . spokesperson for just stop oil. doctor bing. a couple of questions . do support the questions. do you support the targeting of politicians homes ? targeting of politicians homes? uh, and if you do , what do you uh, and if you do, what do you think gives you the right to go and trample on a private person's property , not least person's property, not least people most at risk from people who are most at risk from attacks and even murder? as we've seen in the last couple of years . years. >> look, um , nobody wants to >> look, um, nobody wants to disturb anybody unnecessarily . disturb anybody unnecessarily. >> and these reports in the, uh , >> and these reports in the, uh, the mail on sunday are really kind of exaggerated . kind of exaggerated. >> i think that we're going to target politicians because politicians politics is failing . politicians politics is failing. >> you guys. look, you're not concentrating on. did you notice that in your own news bulletin? >> just recently? >> just recently? >> there's, uh , disruption >> there's, uh, disruption because of flooding on the traffic thing. and then there's a tragic thing about a little

boy possibly being washed away in the river soar. >> you're not. >> you're not. >> what's that got to do with climate change, doctor bing ? climate change, doctor bing? >> i, i really don't know where to start. >> i'm sorry. >> i'm sorry. >> what's it to you? oh, boy. falling into a river got to do with change and global temperatures. >> were. you were you concentrating, ben? >> looking at the screen? >> the screen? >> the screen? >> question. >> obviously, the question. >> obviously, the question. >> the >> river overflowing onto the onto . the boy, onto the path. the little boy, if . let's hope to god he's if he. let's hope to god he's all right. >> you can't you can't blame >> but you can't you can't blame that on climate change. >> where's evidence say >> where's your evidence to say that overflowing was that that river overflowing was because of climate change and not, drains . then not, say, blocked drains. then that's pathetic . that's pathetic. >> we've had every single month from may, june , july right from may, june, july right through until june until january has been the hottest month ever . has been the hottest month ever. >> every single one. the sea is boiling. every single is boiling. >> doctor bing, boiling. >> doctor bing , doctor boiling. >> doctor bing, doctor bing. do you know? do you know what than it's ever been .

it's ever been. >> and it's hotter by an enormous jump. >> every single agency which is not funded by fossil fuels, which is not associated with the profits of fossil fuels, everybody . everybody. >> so it's we're in deep water and you're all, doctor bing, i understand your strength of feeling this matter. feeling on this matter. >> do. but i think >> of course i do. but i think we've to get back to the we've got to get back to the discussion here. the idea discussion point here. the idea that stop activists are that just stop oil activists are planning to target our politicians homes . now, they may politicians homes. now, they may not agree with the politician's stance on a particular issue. perhaps it's oil and gas exploration or something else, but what gives activists of just stop oil the right to target people's own private homes ? that people's own private homes? that is outrageous abuse , is it not? is outrageous abuse, is it not? >> uh , quite, quite, quite the >> uh, quite, quite, quite the opposite. people have targeted , opposite. people have targeted, uh, politicians since time immemorial. >> and you say you think it's fine that politicians are paid to act, and we've had 30 years of not acting on the biggest

problem that there has ever been. you guys, that's not true , been. you guys, that's not true, doctor bing. >> you may you may want you guys. you may want more action. you may want more action. but the uk has been very strong compared to other countries around world terms of around the world in terms of reaching net zero goal, in reaching that net zero goal, in terms pursuing it, i believe reaching that net zero goal, in ter|were pursuing it, i believe reaching that net zero goal, in ter|were the suing it, i believe reaching that net zero goal, in ter|were the first] it, i believe reaching that net zero goal, in ter|were the first to , i believe reaching that net zero goal, in ter|were the first to even lieve reaching that net zero goal, in ter|were the first to even write we were the first to even write it so i think saying, it into law. so i think saying, oh, the government hasn't done anything there anything is just nonsense. there >> it's not nonsense. the government has not done anything at scale and pace that's at the scale and pace that's required. and in fact, what they're doing is making it worse. you've got worse. look if you've got a problem you can it problem before, you can make it better. first, you've got to stop making it worse . and what stop making it worse. and what our government has done and what the labour party is planning to go on doing, license more oil go on doing, is license more oil and gas. that's just going to make the problem worse. >> you behave, just stop oil, behave a little bit like fascists. they have the idea that they have this vision for the world and anyone else's opinion means nothing when actually in a democracy , in actually in a democracy, in a democracy, you have a plurality

of opinion. it's up to our elected representative to represent the public. people have very different views on net zero and how to get there. more importantly . and so you can't importantly. and so you can't just, you know , harass mps. in just, you know, harass mps. in their homes where their children may be, where their wives or husbands may be, and essentially create this intimidation . create this intimidation. >> emily, politicians have failed. they failed to act for 30 years on the biggest problem that even mrs. thatcher was really eloquent about 30 years ago. we're failing. this is the biggest problem that humanity has ever faced , and we're not has ever faced, and we're not even on that. >> on that point, you're saying it's the biggest, the biggest, um, situation humanity has ever faced. let me reel you off. some predictions from yesteryear. so in 2000, doctor david in the year 2000, doctor david viner east anglia university, viner of east anglia university, a simon. a climate scientist said that within a few years, winter snowfall will become a, quote, and exciting quote, very rare and exciting event children won't know event. children just won't know what is. in 2004, report

what snow is. in 2004, a report from the pentagon said britain would plunged into a siberian would be plunged into a siberian climate by 2020, and in june 2018, your friend greta thunberg fired off an urgent tweet . she fired off an urgent tweet. she said a top climate scientist is warning that climate change will wipe out all of humanity unless we using fossil fuels over we stop using fossil fuels over the next five years. she deleted that tweet last year. what do you say to that , ben? you say to that, ben? >> anybody can find any opinion that they want, uh, online. why? >> why should we listen to your predictions when they're always wrong? that's point, doctor. wrong? that's the point, doctor. ben , you don't need to be ben look, you don't need to be a climate scientist. >> you just need to be an ordinary person sticking your head out of the window, trying to get insurance for a business, trying to find a roofer to fix your roof. people. ordinary people are aware things are really bad. we're not doing enough about it. and we have got to just stop oil. doctor, i'm a doctor . i'm to just stop oil. doctor, i'm a doctor. i'm a doctor. i've been looking after people all my life

with very serious diseases, and i can tell you, if you've got cancen i can tell you, if you've got cancer, you don't want to be cold, told you've got cancer . if cold, told you've got cancer. if you've got to go and have a really big operation, you don't want to be told, doctor , do you want to be told, doctor, do you know what the current, what the one dont know what the current, what the one don't want one thing you really don't want to don't want to is to be, don't want to happen is not at all. not to be told at all. >> people. >> people. >> doctor ben can i can i ask you, can i ask you, please, if you, can i ask you, please, if you know what the current level of, uh, carbon dioxide, the parts per million is for planet earth moment ? earth at the moment? >> gosh , it's 400 and >> um. oh, gosh, it's 400 and something. it's massively high. it's something like 30% higher than it was . um, it's nearly than it was. um, it's nearly double what it was only about 30 or 40 years ago. >> so it's 421, which is much lower than it was thousands of years ago. >> but let me ask you, what's the target ppm ? the target ppm? >> we need to get it well below three. well, three, 350 is the, uh, we need to get it well below 350. we need to plenty of

studies show that would just destroy vegetation and plant life on earth . that's completely life on earth. that's completely wrong . and you're just talking wrong. and you're just talking rubbish , ash. rubbish, ash. >> you keep saying we're talking rubbish and nonsense. it seems to me that you don't want to listen to other and listen to any other opinion and actually , i've off plenty actually, i've reeled off plenty of could here of examples. i could sit here all off plenty all day. i've reeled off plenty of climate of examples of climate doom predictions yesteryears predictions from yesteryears that senior people have that many senior people have made the pentagon, senior made the pentagon, the un senior research scientists. you've sat here now, reeled off more predictions, saying we're going here now, reeled off more pr

>> while the uk has made huge steps, huge leaps forward in reducing pollution. but thank you very much indeed, doctor bing jones, spokesperson for just stop oil. great to speak to you.thank just stop oil. great to speak to you. thank you . well, there you you. thank you. well, there you go. sorry nitty go. i'm sorry into the nitty gritty you? i'm sorry. >> they have m1 levee sorry. >> they have a they may have >> they may have a they may have a case. may a point. a case. they may have a point. it to be seen. but when it remains to be seen. but when they've predictions they've made so many predictions year after which none of year after year, which none of them, has been proved them, not one, has been proved right and facts he linked right. and the facts he linked that young two that poor young lad, the two year fell a river year old, he fell into a river to climate is absolutely to climate change, is absolutely absurd and he can sit there all he wants, saying you're talking nonsense and patronising me and you, link you, but you know, to link a young to climate young lads death to climate change he's got no evidence change when he's got no evidence for is disgusting. for it at all, is disgusting. >> i think you've got point. >> i think you've got a point. if if you talk up the if you, if you talk up the prospect of the world being wiped changing wiped out due to changing temperatures, then, um, when that doesn't happen, it's sort of undermines your point. but let us know what you think. gb views at gb news. com but also, should ban on mobile should there be a ban on mobile phones schools , do we need to phones in schools, do we need to get tough on children who can't, you know, can't leave their

phone alone, can't leave their phone alone, can't leave their phone alone, can't leave their phone alone, even school? phone alone, even at school? we'll after the we'll be debating that after the short you're watching. short break you're watching. good britain

land you can do it. >> you're listening to gb news radio . radio. >> welcome back . it's 125. >> welcome back. it's 125. you're with ben and emily on good afternoon britain. only on gb news now. new guidance has been issued for teachers in england on the proposed banning of mobile phones in the classroom. >> yes, according to education secretary gillian keegan, it allows teachers develop secretary gillian keegan, it alloimplementichers develop secretary gillian keegan, it alloimplementalers develop secretary gillian keegan, it alloimplement a policy develop secretary gillian keegan, it alloimplement a policy whichyp and implement a policy which could allow phones during lessons, breaks and lunches with provisions for searches. if necessary. i would have thought that schools already had this opfion that schools already had this option . for them, but joining us option. for them, but joining us is author and broadcaster lisa mackenzie, who allows students to use their phones class and

to use their phones in class and journalist and broadcaster julie cooke, thinks should journalist and broadcaster julie c0(banned thinks should journalist and broadcaster julie c0(banned ainnks should journalist and broadcaster julie c0(banned as they're should be banned as they're a distraction. well, who should we start with? julie. why do you think they should be banned in schools? children, schools? surely children, you know, get in touch with know, need to get in touch with their to their parents, need to look things on google . things up on google. >> no, i don't think they do. i think, you know, when you're at school, you're in loco parentis. you're after by you're being looked after by other don't need to other people. you don't need to contact at school. contact your parents at school. um, but i also think they are a huge anyone who huge distraction. anyone who says crazy. you says they aren't is crazy. you know, are a massive know, they are a massive distraction and children are tempted them. check tempted to go on them. check their messages, check sms, their messages, check their sms, check you sending photos check you sending them photos and huge distraction . and they're a huge distraction. >> lisa, how many times have you caught kids in your classroom on content or web pages that they shouldn't be on? >> well, never really. >> well, never really. >> i mean, i work at university, so my students are 18 plus. um, and my students, i've realised that you we're not going to get rid of the smartphones. and actually there can be quite useful to teaching. so what do useful to teaching. so what i do is make sure that i've got an interactive class and i get them to do research , watch the first

to do research, watch the first couple of weeks , i'll say you couple of weeks, i'll say you can use wikipedia . and then can use wikipedia. and then after that i'll say, right , no after that i'll say, right, no more wikipedia. let's use start. we'll start using google scholar or other things. so the key for me is about how you use those mobile phones in your classroom . mobile phones in your classroom. and i've found them very useful actually . and students, they are actually. and students, they are not going to put their phones away banning them is not the answer. we're not going to ban them. social media apps and web social media is a problem , but social media is a problem, but i'm sure we can work around that. >> lisa, what about school age children? what about school age children? what about school age children ? you've got a teacher children? you've got a teacher trying to teach a maths lesson and you can see, you know, bill over there with his phone, looking at his snapchat. you've got lisa in the corner doing another lisa, you've got lisa looking through her instagram page. you've got someone else being bullied at the back on their whatsapp messages. surely just getting rid of the phones from the classroom is the only way sure the pupils are

way to make sure the pupils are concentrated on what they're supposed be, but can't can't supposed to be, but can't can't the teacher tell them to get off the teacher tell them to get off the phone and put it in the bag? >> i mean, is that not allowed? you know, because that was you know, because if that was happening stop happening in my class, i'd stop the and you put the class and say, you know, put that away , put it in your bag, that away, put it in your bag, or you know, so if you why would a teacher sit there and allow this to happen? what i'm saying is in some classes, mobile phones are very useful, especially for research and also in getting students to start to think about more credible sources of research , because one sources of research, because one of the things that we try and teach at universities is to be critical and critical thinking. now, if we get so if we if we start to teach them, you know, wikipedia is not always correct. we can get them to think critically about the world. >> lisa, you're stopping students, stopping pupils from seeing being critical about sources and learning how to get information they've got a computer in their hand .

computer in their hand. >> is that to me, julie ? >> is that to me, julie? >> is that to me, julie? >> julie. sorry. >> julie. sorry. >> i'm sorry . >> julie. sorry. >> i'm sorry. um, yeah. i mean, i think , don't schools have i think, don't schools have computers? anyway, i mean, most schools now have some kind of computer room or computer access for children so they can do their studies computers . they their studies on computers. they don't personal phone. don't need their personal phone. i difference i think the difference between using personal phone and using your personal phone and a school is you're school computer is you're probably to have bit probably going to have a bit more for you're more respect for what you're looking up, hopefully not look up or personal on up anything dodgy or personal on on computer. but with up anything dodgy or personal on on phone computer. but with up anything dodgy or personal on on phone you've|ter. but with up anything dodgy or personal on on phone you've got but with up anything dodgy or personal on on phone you've got all: with up anything dodgy or personal on on phone you've got all your your phone you've got all your mates you've got your mates there, you've got your photographs there, you've got people and people messaging you and i disagree. i think you know, my children's school, for example, has place for has had this in place for a while. have pouch that while. they have a pouch that the has be put into. it the phone has to be put into. it is locked for day. is then locked for the day. children them. they children have it on them. they can't unlock it without the teacher. of magnetically teacher. sort of magnetically opening it. at end of the opening it. at the end of the day, they've got day, it means they've got their phone. look it, phone. no one can look at it, but can't access it until but they can't access it until the of and think the end of the day. and i think that's fine. the end of the day. and i think tha and ne. the end of the day. and i think tha and julie actually less than >> and julie actually less than time is scarce enough as is. time is scarce enough as it is. i i school, i remember when i was at school, a you'd be a state school. um, you'd be lucky if you got 20 minutes solid learning in because

solid of learning in because of solid of learning in because of so playing up. you so many people playing up. you don't want spending any don't want teachers spending any more precious time telling kids to phones away. to put their phones away. >> i quite agree , i think, as >> i quite agree, i think, as you say, there are so many in state schools we have now, what, 30 in the class the 30 plus in the class and the teacher has an hour max with the, maybe 45 minutes the, you know, maybe 45 minutes to them down, do lesson, to sit them down, do the lesson, sort homework . if sort out the homework. if they're then also saying every sort out the homework. if theyminutes,ilso saying every sort out the homework. if theyminutes, johnny, ng every sort out the homework. if theyminutes, johnny, ng eyour five minutes, johnny, put your phone away. and so put your phone away. so and so put your whatsapp off. you know, of course going be distraction. >> well thank you very much indeed, let you indeed, julie. i'll let you finish. last word to lisa. >> just saying a good what a good teacher would do is know at the beginning of the classroom whether it's appropriate to have the not. and i have the phone out or not. and i have found that using phones in classrooms has been really useful mm hmm. classrooms has been really useinteresting. nm. classrooms has been really useinteresting. interesting >> interesting. interesting perspective there. uh, lisa mckenzie, course . and julie mckenzie, of course. and julie cook, to speak to you . cook, good to speak to you. yeah. it's good. i take the point sometimes phones can point that sometimes phones can be i think it's be useful, but i do think it's different level different at university level than schools. i just than it is in schools. i just imagine as a teacher trying to get your students to actually

concentrate, you're basically trusting kids to not look at all the other distractions on their phones. >> don't open instagram, don't go on snapchat, don't look at those messages from your mates. only look at, you know, wikipedia or whatever you're i mean, don't you remember because wikipedia or whatever you're i ndidn'tion't you remember because wikipedia or whatever you're i ndidn'tion't jmy remember because wikipedia or whatever you're i ndidn'tion't jmy rememin r because i didn't have my phone in primary school. >> obviously . um, but used >> obviously. um, but we used to, know, write on to, you know, write notes on paper pass those paper instead and pass those around. now it's just, you around. and now it's just, you know, text messages, right? whatsapp messages constantly. i imagine you know, you just have your phone under the desk all the time. >> just think everyone >> i just think everyone else survived. do why do survived. i mean, why do why do kids need mobiles? kids these days need mobiles? >> it would have been. would >> it would have been. it would have though, have >> it would have been. it would h.phone though, have >> it would have been. it would h.phone was)ugh, have >> it would have been. it would h.phone was left, have >> it would have been. it would h.phone was left at have >> it would have been. it would h.phone was left at the ve a phone when i was left at the bus and didn't when bus stop, and i didn't know when my picking me up. my mum was picking me up. >> discussed this >> well, we discussed this earlier. fun of earlier. that was the fun of growing i remember many growing up. i remember many times be outside the times i'd be waiting outside the school thought school and my mum had thought i was sports club or was at some sports club or something i wasn't, i'd was at some sports club or someto ng i wasn't, i'd was at some sports club or someto either. i wasn't, i'd was at some sports club or sonand either. i wasn't, i'd was at some sports club or sonand you er. i wasn't, i'd was at some sports club or sonand you havei wasn't, i'd was at some sports club or sonand you have to asn't, i'd was at some sports club or sonand you have to asn't, you'd >> and you have to decide you have whether stay have to decide whether to stay put and waiting or to walk. put and keep waiting or to walk. >> when you're >> and actually when you're a kid you didn't say, you kid as well, you didn't say, you know, best mates on kid as well, you didn't say, you kno phone best mates on kid as well, you didn't say, you kno phone and best mates on kid as well, you didn't say, you kno phone and say,t mates on kid as well, you didn't say, you kno phone and say, wheres on kid as well, you didn't say, you kno phone and say, where are the phone and say, where are you? knock on you? you'd have to knock on their landline.

their house, call the landline. maybe down park. maybe they're down the park. maybe they're down the park. maybe they're down the park. maybe the town maybe they're down in the town centre mcdonald's. centre at mcdonald's. >> wish >> don't you? sometimes wish that life that you'd, uh, you know, life was more fun? was a lot more fun? >> yeah. >> yeah. >> you'd lived the past at. >> oh, yeah. >> oh, yeah. >> back basics. >> but back to basics. >> but back to basics. >> says that, >> every generation says that, don't nostalgia for something >> yeah. nostalgia for something we've known. views at we've never known. gb views at gb let us know what gb news. com. let us know what you um, up gb news. com. let us know what you um, up , you think. but, um, coming up, are there serious problems in uk policing? we're talking about reports officers shared reports that officers shared graphic details following the horrendous attacks in nottingham last year . we're discussing that last year. we're discussing that with our panel after your headunes with our panel after your headlines watching. headlines you're watching. >> . >> good afternoon. >> good afternoon. >> ben. emily, thank you very much . it'sjust >> ben. emily, thank you very much . it's just gone. 132 the much. it's just gone. 132 the headunes much. it's just gone. 132 the headlines this hour. well, a man who piloted a boat across the engush who piloted a boat across the english channel has today been found guilty of manslaughter. for if you're watching on tv , for if you're watching on tv, you'll be able to see these images live. footage of the rescue operation that's been obtained by gb news. tens of migrants crammed into a an inflatable boat. they're being

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radio. >> welcome back. it's 138. you're with ben and emily on good afternoon britain on gb news. now, as we've just been discussing new guidance has been issued teachers in england issued for teachers in england on to the of

on when to allow the banning of mobile schools. yes. mobile phones in schools. yes. >> according the education >> so to according the education secretary, , this secretary, gillian keegan, this will head teachers will allow head teachers to develop implement policy develop and implement a policy which phones during which could allow phones during lessons, lunches. but lessons, breaks and lunches. but with provisions for searches, bag searches, bag searches, yes. so the teachers could , you know, so the teachers could, you know, just to see your bag. just ask to see your bag. >> and then civil liberties is it is it. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> i think so. maybe maybe. >> yeah. >> i th us so. maybe maybe. >> yeah. >> i th us nowviaybe maybe. >> yeah. >> i th us now inybe maybe. >> yeah. >> i th us now in the maybe. >> yeah. >> i th us now in the studio. >> yeah. >> i th us now in the studio as joining us now in the studio as gb news presenter nana akua and political editor for the huffington post, kevin schofield, nana, let's get to it is it right we should ban mobiles , uh, in schools? and mobiles, uh, in schools? and also, what do you think about this prospect of searching children's bags when they come into school? >> uh, look, a lot of >> uh, well, look, a lot of schools already do it anyway. >> my daughter, got her >> my daughter, she got her mobile phone when was nine, mobile phone when she was nine, and the day she got and i remember the day she got it because literally weeks later, would her later, she. i would speak to her and i said, what and she'd go, and i said, what are doing? are you doing? >> tiktok. >> she goes, tiktok. >> she goes, tiktok. >> transition . i'd be >> it's a transition. i'd be like, earth are you like, what on earth are you talking she stopped talking about? she stopped drawing. all talking about? she stopped dra\things all talking about? she stopped dra\things that all talking about? she stopped dra\things that made all talking about? she stopped dra\things that made her all talking about? she stopped dra\things that made her cutesy the things that made her cutesy and little and then became one of those scary tasmanian devils .

of those scary tasmanian devils. and the only three. if i said to her all i have say her now her all i have to say to her now she's bring me your she's15, bring me your smartphone. that's sends shivers down her spine. she she and she becomes the nicest person ever until that phone is returned. so i think the power of these phonesi i think the power of these phones i would say that absolutely they shouldn't be removed from the children. i would and i'm would go further and say, i'm with esther ghey that they shouldn't be allowed smartphones, they should be given 2010s or something given nokia 2010s or something without the capability to do that they're 16. and but . that until they're 16. and but. a lot of schools do this anyway. >> but how do you deal with that with your own children then? so you see that they are you can see that they are hopelessly these hopelessly addicted to these devices? the problem hopelessly addicted to these devices are the problem hopelessly addicted to these devices are the the problem hopelessly addicted to these devices are the adults. oblem that so are the adults. >> i well, i'm absolute hypocrite. >> i'm an absolute hypocrite. but it, to be honest, but i find it, to be honest, it's entertaining when but i find it, to be honest, itsay entertaining when but i find it, to be honest, itsay me:ertaining when but i find it, to be honest, itsay me yourning when but i find it, to be honest, itsay me your smartphone . i say bring me your smartphone. theni i say bring me your smartphone. then i look at the faces. >> no. >> no. >> and i said, she goes, mummy, mummy. i said, bring me the phone. >> so it works both ways. then not only can it be a distraction , it can a good tool to get , it can be a good tool to get them really good. >> yeah, like kids,

>> so yeah, like my kids, i don't do anything like that. just words on just a couple of words on a certain eyes fear is good. >> i can imagine as the ultimate punishment is. punishment for it is. >> our eldest punishment for it is. >> when our eldest punishment for it is. >> when she our eldest punishment for it is. >> when she got our eldest punishment for it is. >> when she got phone.iest punishment for it is. >> when she got phone. yeah was 11 when she got phone. yeah because she going to high because she was going to high school and was safety thing school and it was a safety thing as much as anything else. school and it was a safety thing as she] as anything else. school and it was a safety thing as she was anything else. school and it was a safety thing as she was havingg else. school and it was a safety thing as she was having toelse. the bus >> she was having to get the bus to school with us before she could it was we knew where >> and so it was we knew where she was and if she needed any help. it's thing. help. so it's a good thing. i think good they have think it's good that they have them, but but she has to hand it in the school in on the school gates. basically in basically she has to put it in the locker. basically she has to put it in the so :ker. basically she has to put it in the so this all bit >> so this is all a bit pointless because schools do already . already. >> was to say was already. >> i was going to say was it feels groundhog feels a bit like groundhog day. i have they i mean, how many times have they announced going announced that they're going to ban isn't even a ban. >> and this isn't even a ban. this guidance. this is just guidance. >> to ultimately, it's >> it's up to ultimately, it's up to headteachers. >> schools >> yeah. to say schools are going this guidance. going to follow this guidance. >> ones that think >> well the ones that i think most already have their most of them already have their own mean this is it own guidance. i mean this is it feels just kind of feels like just more kind of headune feels like just more kind of headline grabbing by headline grabbing. um, by the government, mean , i think we government, i mean, i think we should leave it up to schools to, to decide. i think all teachers that they teachers would agree that they don't the classroom don't want kids in the classroom staring phones, staring at their phones,

messaging , taking messaging each other, taking phone type phone calls, all that type of stuff. don't think stuff. i mean, i don't think that on, i think that really goes on, but i think they're the they're concerned about the imagine with the trans guidance. >> they're concerned if >> they're concerned that if they try and put these restrictions, they'll parents they try and put these restrwillns, they'll parents they try and put these restrwill override .l parents they try and put these restrwill override all parents they try and put these restrwill override all of arents they try and put these restrwill override all of thists who will override all of this and you do it's and say, you can't do that. it's the of my child, blah, the right of my child, blah, blah, the guidance, blah, blah. so the guidance, i think, government think, is good. the government should long should have done this a long time but with mr time ago, but i'm with mr barton, who . said the government barton, who. said the government should focus on things that matter, like funding and stuff like that for schools. matter, like funding and stuff likei'mit for schools. matter, like funding and stuff likei'm absolutelyls. them. matter, like funding and stuff likekevin.solutelyls. them. matter, like funding and stuff likekevin. there's ls. them. matter, like funding and stuff likekevin. there's also them. matter, like funding and stuff likekevin. there's also a1em. matter, like funding and stuff likekevin. there's also a case >> kevin. there's also a case for a young 12 year for a young mind, a 12 year old's brain that instant old's brain getting that instant dopamine scrolling dopamine hit, scrolling through bang, . what's that bang, bang bang. what's that doing the focus and doing for the focus and attention ? i mean, know it attention? i mean, i know it affects as a man in my 30s. affects me as a man in my 30s. well into kids. >> think in years come , >> i think in years to come, we'll probably look back and say, why give kids such say, why did we give kids such easy access apps and their easy access to apps and their mobile phone like that? and yet again , you see, the punishment again, you see, the punishment is taking the phone off them. that's i mean, ours is. that's great. i mean, ours is. i don't know how many times our daughter from daughter has been banned from tiktok. app tiktok. we'll take that app off your you do this tiktok. we'll take that app off yourthat you do this tiktok. we'll take that app off yourthat is you do this tiktok. we'll take that app off yourthat is like you do this tiktok. we'll take that app off yourthat is like a you do this tiktok. we'll take that app off yourthat is like a terrible. this

and that is like a terrible. >> does though? >> what does she do though? >> what does she do though? >> mean, i don't have >> because, i mean, i don't have a l >> because, i mean, i don't have a , but i imagine i'll a child yet, but i imagine i'll have all these ideas of being very strict and allowing very strict and not allowing them have a phone. them to have a phone. >> let me tell you, they're going to be reading, not using tiktok things. tiktok and things. >> the reality >> and then the reality strikes well, starts well, i think the reality starts with birthing plan that with the birthing plan that you'll probably have, because that won't go to plan. >> does. then from >> it never does. and then from there that there on, you'll realise that you're literally in you're not literally not in control. so i did, i did it, i said, we're gonna have organic food, nothing organic , only food, nothing organic, only they're not going to have any tablets they're 7 or 8 or nine. >> and then actually you go to a restaurant and trying to restaurant and you're trying to eat the kid's eat a meal, and the kid's kicking crying, and kicking off and crying, and you're stressed. you're just getting stressed. >> them anything >> you say, give them anything so easy, paw patrol, take the phones. >> so easy. >> it's so easy. >> you're right. >> yeah, no. you're right. anything lot anything for a quiet life a lot of the time. but you know that you completely you can't give them completely unrestricted you can't give them completely unre quite d you can't give them completely unre quite handy to. also quite handy to. >> i mean, lisa mckenzie, who we spoke who is spoke to earlier, who is a professor, she said, oh no, it's great for students to have their phones know, they'll phones and, you know, they'll find information and find out lots of information and things and they'll learn the difference and difference between fact and fiction to look at

fiction and how to look at sources fiction and how to look at soulszs fiction and how to look at souis that true ? >> is that true? >> is that true? >> has she got any children? >> has she got any children? >> i don't know, actually. >> i don't know, actually. >> i don't know, actually. >> i haven't been her. >> i haven't been her. >> has she ever been online? >> has she ever been online? >> but look, i think >> no, but but look, i think that gave daughter that i gave my daughter the phone thought was useful. >> i wanted her to be. don't >> i wanted her to be. i don't want be naive. she's the want her to be naive. she's the person who would me, person who would say to me, mummy, to take a mummy, are you going to take a picture yourself? sure picture of yourself? make sure you here down. make picture of yourself? make sure you there's here down. make picture of yourself? make sure you there's no here down. make picture of yourself? make sure you there's no no, re down. make picture of yourself? make sure you there's no no, thatywn. make picture of yourself? make sure you there's no no, that i/n. make picture of yourself? make sure you there's no no, that i would (e sure there's no no, that i would take nude but take any nude pictures, but she's just telling she tells she's just telling me. she tells me if me things like, you know, if you're the you're going to make sure the school photo and school logo is in the photo and things like that, i know that that makes me really sad hearing. not naive. hearing. so she's not naive. so i'm she's bit i'm glad that she's got a bit of, know, up and go of, you know, get up and go about but i would have about her. but i would have rather given her that phone later some sort later and given her some sort of, you know, one of those 2010s that capability of, you know, one of those 2010s tha smart. capability of, you know, one of those 2010s tha kevin, capability of, you know, one of those 2010s tha kevin, hearing capability of, you know, one of those 2010s tha kevin, hearing cenanaity of, you know, one of those 2010s tha kevin, hearing cenana just >> kevin, hearing what nana just said, then it makes makes said, then it makes me it makes me that young people said, then it makes me it makes me so that young people said, then it makes me it makes me so conscious young people said, then it makes me it makes me so conscious young fimage were so conscious of their image and they're thinking and that they they're thinking about the poses. about the angles and the poses. i see some young these days i see some young kids these days pulling, sort of very pulling, you know, sort of very weird, poses. weird, strange poses. >> sexy poses . >> they've seen sexy poses. >> they've seen sexy poses. >> yeah. and just like, >> yeah. and it's just like, just yourself. you just enjoy yourself. why are you being conscious? if it being so self conscious? if it makes you know. makes me really, you know. >> and again, as a parent

>> yeah. and again, as a parent that you've that something else you've got to look out mean i'm to look out for. i mean i'm trying keep on what trying to keep an eye on what they're what they're watching and what they're sharing, what information they're sharing onune information they're sharing online so online as well. i mean, it's so i mean, minefield really. i mean, it's a minefield really. >> you very much >> well thank you very much indeed, of indeed, kevin schofield. and of course, akua will be back , course, nana akua will be back, uh, after this break, we're going to be discussing the families the three who families of the three people who were in were fatally stabbed in nottingham they nottingham last year. they are now sickened to hear now reportedly sickened to hear that officers shared that police officers shared details of their injuries , gory details of their injuries, gory details of their injuries, gory details of their injuries, gory details of their injuries on whatsapp. more after that. this short .

>> you're listening to gb news news . radio. news. radio. good afternoon. >> it's 148. you're with ben good afternoon. >> it's148. you're with ben and emily on good afternoon, britain. now the families of three people stabbed to death in nottingham year are nottingham last year are reportedly sickened to learn that shared that police officers shared graphic of their loved graphic details of their loved ones injuries in a whatsapp

group. >> yes, barnaby weber. group. >> yes, barnaby weber . grace >> yes, barnaby weber. grace o'malley kumar, both aged 19, andian o'malley kumar, both aged 19, and ian coates were killed, of course, by valdo calocane last june. >> back with us now is gb news superstar nana akua and political editor for huffington post, kevin schofield. oh nana good introduction. >> i think superstar. >> i think superstar. >> thank you. lend me a fiver. um, look , this particular case um, look, this particular case is , uh. it's astonishing, isn't is, uh. it's astonishing, isn't it? not only have the parents and the families of these victims had to deal with the incident itself , but after the incident itself, but after the fact, learning that the details and the, uh, the running commentary between police officers is rife among whatsapp groups. >> well, it's disgusting . it's >> well, it's disgusting. it's yet another story that makes you lose complete faith in the police. and it's not the first time either. i remember the first time i kind of heard about them doing this was a couple of years ago when two sisters were killed were killed in london, and they were sharing images and sharing some of the images and whatever, taking pictures of the bodies and things. it's absolutely disgusting. and you know, these, these the worst bit

about it is once these people have done this, they then start referring themselves to the police complaints like, police complaints and it's like, well, needs change well, something needs to change here. we can't police here. we can't have a police force who nobody trusts. and you know, with anything, i mean, i wouldn't them to arrest wouldn't trust them to arrest me. i don't trust them . i me. i don't trust them. i wouldn't if anything wouldn't trust them if anything happened me, that they would happened to me, that they would take i trust take it seriously. i don't trust them report properly . i them to report it properly. i literally the literally don't trust the police. to say that police. and i'm sad to say that that's huge problem. that's a huge problem. >> say people are >> i'm sad to say people are increasing number of people simply the police , simply do not trust the police, whether victim of whether they're the victim of crime the perpetrator. um, crime or the perpetrator. um, the families of the victims have said this is internal, needless voyeurism . um, that's what it voyeurism. um, that's what it is, isn't it ? is, isn't it? >> it's absolutely horrific . um, >> it's absolutely horrific. um, i mean, these families have been through hell already . i mean, these families have been through hell already. um, and then to learn that these graphic details , these intimate details details, these intimate details of what happened to their family members being shared and outwith with the police as well, you know, it's being shared and then

shared on again. um it just beggars belief . and you think beggars belief. and you think what was going through their minds, why did they think that that way acceptable? that was in any way acceptable? um, or how did he think they were never going to get caught because inevitable. were never going to get caught bec kevin. inevitable. were never going to get caught bec kevin. in notable. were never going to get caught bec kevin. in not excusing >> kevin. not not excusing what's here, is what's happened here, which is absolutely atrocious but absolutely atrocious. but i spoke both spoke to norman spoke to we both spoke to norman brennan earlier. the met brennan earlier. the former met police said, is police officer. and i said, is there something to be discussed with regards to the everyday scenes ? police officers are scenes? police officers are witnessing road traffic accidents, murder scenes that somehow gets them desensitised to , you know, many things that to, you know, many things that would leave normal people, you know, quite stunned and even maybe experiencing ptsd and things like that. >> yet. you know, there >> not yet. and you know, there should there is should be and i hope there is support for officers support available for officers who obviously do have to witness these horrendous things that thankfully we don't in our day to day lives . thankfully we don't in our day to day lives. um, but, you thankfully we don't in our day to day lives . um, but, you know, to day lives. um, but, you know, if there there, they if there is help there, they should take that help . i don't should take that help. i don't think any way. excuses think that in any way. excuses them for doing . them for doing. >> do you think just a strong talking to is enough when it comes to this sort of thing? do

you think there should be severe disciplinary measures these disciplinary measures on these police officers? >> well, i think talk is cheap, isn't it? over. we've been isn't it? it's over. we've been talking about this constantly . talking about this constantly. we've seen it with politicians, with things on whatsapp. we've seen it with literally all the pubuc seen it with literally all the public services where we want to have respect for people. we're finding that they are sharing awful things with each other. on whatsapp. i really don't know where we go with this . whether where we go with this. whether there should banned from there should be banned from having whatsapp perhaps having whatsapp groups. perhaps that's that they that's something that they should should be looking at. >> well, this is the thing with whatsapp makes whatsapp isn't it? it makes everything casual . yeah. everything very casual. yeah. and you're using if you're and so if you're using if you're doing business on this, in this case policing all on whatsapp, you can see how people go over the line and don't realise that actually what they're doing is pretty sick. >> they doing >> but why are they doing business whatsapp? i don't business on whatsapp? i don't understand, i don't know. business on whatsapp? i don't uncwell,1d, i don't know. business on whatsapp? i don't uncwell, there ion't know. business on whatsapp? i don't uncwell, there shouldn't. business on whatsapp? i don't uncwell, there shouldn't be. >> well, there shouldn't be. >> well, there shouldn't be. >> think that perhaps we >> so i think that perhaps we need needs to be need to start. there needs to be something police shouldn't something where police shouldn't be to do that. just be allowed to do that. i just think should banned. think it should be banned. you can't group. can't have a whatsapp group.

>> the government >> i mean, even the government was was dealing with covid plans on whatsapp. was astonishing on whatsapp. it was astonishing to those leaked to me when all those leaked texts were texts came out and they were discussing measures and, you know, things that were really affect whatsapp. know, things that were really affethe whatsapp. know, things that were really affethe problem whatsapp. know, things that were really affethe problem is, alhatsapp. know, things that were really affethe problem is, though,p. know, things that were really affethe problem is, though, it's >> the problem is, though, it's the communicate , the easiest way to communicate, isn't it, kevin? >> well, yeah, it's very the >> well, yeah, it's very of the times the easiest times if whatsapp is the easiest way well, it's very it's very convenient. >> and as journalists it's a very quick way of texting sources and getting quotes and that type of thing. yeah, i think a world away from think that's a world away from um, i mean, it doesn't seem like there any sort of there was any sort of productive, benefit to them productive, uh, benefit to them doing was pretty virus doing this. it was pretty virus sick, from what can tell. sick, from what i can tell. certainly somebody shared it with yeah wife and a with his wife. yeah wife and a friend, you know. you think. friend, you know. so you think. well that's not part of the investigation, none well that's not part of the inytheiration, none well that's not part of the inytheir business. none well that's not part of the inytheir business. no. none of their business. no. absolutely you know, absolutely not. and, you know, you go back to you just again, you go back to to the victims families. you to the the victims families. you think feel know think how much they feel to know that the police that it wasn't just the police that it wasn't just the police that were this that, um, were sharing this information , but people outwith information, but people outwith the police. >> kevin schofield akua, >> kevin schofield nana akua, thanks we'll be back. thanks so much. we'll be back. >> yes. in a statement to the telegraph, chief telegraph, the deputy chief constable steve said constable, steve cooper, said

nottinghamshire's police professional standards directorate found one message posted on a whatsapp group and took action immediately. so there you go, drawing a line under it. >> i mean, yeah, i'm not sure that's often what's that's enough. too often what's happened to police officer? happened to the police officer? well, depend on the well, does it depend on the outcome standards meeting outcome of the standards meeting some kind disciplinary measure? >> coming up, mps will >> but coming up, mps will decide how to react to the death of alexei navalny. but what opfions of alexei navalny. but what options do they really have? we've had david cameron talking about further sanctions means there will be consequences for there will be consequences for the kremlin. what do those consequences actually look like? >> i mean, it feels like we exhausted all options. we've exhausted all our options. we've we've assets from we've seized assets from oligarchs, their oligarchs, we've seized their yachts , their their money. yachts, their gold, their money. >> sanctioned >> it's the most sanctioned country the by some way country in the world by some way , i imagine. >> they're still going >> and they're still going the russia took a massive town russia just took a massive town in donbas. >> still going, well, >> they're still going, well, we're that we're going to pose that question can do question of what more can we do to very short to an mp after this very short break? stay with us. this is good afternoon britain on . gb

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>> good afternoon britain. it's 2:00 on monday the 19th of february. >> boris round two. a new poll has found huge support for boris johnson to fight the next general election. it revealed that the tory party, under the former prime minister could regain the votes of lost conservatives. so is it time to bnng conservatives. so is it time to bring back bojo? yes >> would you welcome that? mm. warning to the kremlin. britain will take action over the death of russian opposition leader alexei navalny, david alexei navalny, warns david cameron as mps return to the house of commons today. cameron as mps return to the house of commons today . with house of commons today. with sanctions place . what sanctions already in place. what does holding to account does holding putin to account actually look like in practice and sacked for criticising hamas? >> former labour minister lord austin has been controversially suspended as the chair of a housing association after describing hamas as, quote , describing hamas as, quote, islamist rapists and murderers. housing minister michael gove has demanded an urgent explanation .

explanation. >> there's been a lot of reaction, hasn't there been to, uh, your, uh , well, mainly what uh, your, uh, well, mainly what you were saying to doctor bing earlier . you were saying to doctor bing earlier. now, doctor bing is a just stop oil spokesman person, bless him. and, uh , bless him. bless him. and, uh, bless him. i think he might have got things a little bit a little. yeah. one, one email from jeff ford here says emily and both your says emily and ben, both your arguments doctor arguments against the doctor are based view . based on opinion or view. >> change isn't an >> climate change isn't an opinion , it's scientific fact. opinion, it's scientific fact. jeff no one's denying the climate is changing. jeff no one's denying the climate is changing . one of my climate is changing. one of my points with doctor bing was that we've so doomsday we've had so many doomsday predictions in recent years, dozens dozens going back dozens and dozens going back decades, made from some very decades, made by from some very senior people, have senior people, which have all come to pass without so much of a whimper . a whimper. >> well, adam says , uh, thanks >> well, adam says, uh, thanks to doctor bing, i now know why i can't get a doctor's appointment , but it be due to climate , but it must be due to climate change, as he seems to blame everything change everything on climate change from to a from not being able to get a roofer someone falling into river. >> and actually, that's that's the point . what really upset me? the point. what really upset me? uh in that interview from doctor bing was blaming the death of

that poor two year old lad who fell into a river because it was overflowing change. overflowing on climate change. absolutely evidence absolutely no evidence whatsoever that being whatsoever for that river being overflown because of climate change. these people feel change. yet these people feel fit and use use fit to come forward and use use a kids death to push their agenda. >> yeah. and paul, he says, um, well , all he says that well, all he says that essentially public policy on the environment is based on an irrational narrative that's alarmist. and that what we need is a rational risk response to the changing climate . i have to the changing climate. i have to agree with, uh, agree with you, paul agree with, uh, agree with you, paul. it's not it doesn't help to have these kind of over the top exaggerated narratives and certainly go rocking up to mps homes and intimidating them certainly isn't the answer . certainly isn't the answer. >> i just completely dilutes any genuine argument you do have. but now let's get some news headunes but now let's get some news headlines sam . headlines with sam. >> ben. emily. thank you very much and good afternoon. from the gb news room. just coming up

to 2:03. and our top story this afternoon , a man who piloted afternoon, a man who piloted a boat across the english channel has today been found guilty of manslaughter. if you're watching on tv, you'll be able to see here exclusive footage obtained by gb news of the rescue operation that took place in december 2022. tens of migrants being hauled out of an inflatable boat in rather choppy waters . four of those migrants waters. four of those migrants drowned during that crossing after the boat ran into difficulty, ibrahim abbas, who's a single senegalese migrant, claimed that he had sailed boats before, which meant that he was allowed to make the journey free of charge while others paid thousands. the judge today said the was navigated using the boat was navigated using only mobile phones and as a result of his actions, four people lost their lives . as people lost their lives. as we've been hearing a major crime investigator action is underway investigator action is underway in bristol after three young children were found dead. officers responded to a welfare call and found the bodies of a boy aged seven. a three year old

girl and a ten month old boy. a 42 year old woman was arrested at the scene. she was then taken to hospital and she is still in police custody. we understand forensic examinations are now underway to determine how those three children died. police have also said local church has also said a local church has been opened for people to gather to and mourn, while community officers will remain in the area over coming days. officers will remain in the area over coming days . the widow over the coming days. the widow of alexei navalny says that russian authorities are deliberately withholding his body until , she says, traces of body until, she says, traces of the nerve agent novichok disappear from his sister in a message posted to social media, yulia navalny vowed to continue his work , saying she wants to his work, saying she wants to live in a free russia. she also said that the reason for his death is known and the details of those responsible will be made public. >> alexei putin, putin killed my children's father. >> putin took away the most dear person i have ever had. >> i want to live in a free russia . i want to build a free

russia. i want to build a free russia. i want to build a free russia . russia. >> it comes as navalny's mother and his lawyer were seen visiting the local prosecutor's office in the city, near to where he died last week. but a spokesperson for navalny's team said they weren't allowed into the morgue, where his body is believed to be, adding they were literally pushed out back here in the uk. specialist dive teams are combing the river soar in leicester in the search for a two year old boy who fell into the water on sunday. leicestershire police are intensifying their efforts to locate the missing toddler with the help of helicopters and aerial technology . officers have aerial technology. officers have said that rising water levels, though, are presenting some danger and they're asking people to keep away the area . as to keep away from the area. as we've been hearing today , new we've been hearing today, new guidance has been issued for teachers in england on restricting the use of smartphones in schools as concerns grow over the impact of social media on young people , social media on young people, head teachers can now choose to include a ban on phones in their

schools. behaviour policy, with provisions for possible searches if necessary . the union if necessary. the union representing headteachers, though , says robust though, says robust rules already exist and they've dismissed the guidelines as a non policy for a non—problem . non policy for a non—problem. but earlier, speaking to gb news the education secretary, gillian keegan , said the government is keegan, said the government is ensuring clarity and consistency exists across all classrooms . exists across all classrooms. >> what we're trying to do is change the social norm, change the norm in our schools that that phones not acceptable that phones are not acceptable in our schools and for some other countries have already done quite a few countries done this. quite a few countries have already done this, and we just to sure that it's just want to make sure that it's consistent make clear , consistent and we make it clear, and we empower teachers to and we empower head teachers to do and that do this. and we think that mostly , um, this is something mostly, um, this is something that parents would welcome. in other news, a uk cargo ship in the red sea has been attacked by houthis in the region, forcing the crew on board to abandon that ship. >> the uk's maritime authority confirmed the ship sustained catastrophic damage in the missile attack off the coast of

yemen , and is now at risk of yemen, and is now at risk of sinking . it comes as the eu sinking. it comes as the eu prepares to launch a new mission to protect commercial vessels in the red sea, and follows the uk and us sending their own military ships to the region in december and finally, the average asking price for a home in britain has jumped by more than £3,000 this month, according to the property website rightmove. falling mortgage rates and more stable conditions are driving the surge to just over £362,000 now for the average house price , the average house price, however, agents are warning sellers to set attractive asking pnces sellers to set attractive asking prices before potential pre—election jitters as momentum in the market comes as sales agreed in the first six weeks of this year are up 16% on the same penod this year are up 16% on the same period last year. for the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. common alerts .

news. common alerts. >> you're watching or listening to good afternoon britain on gb news. now, could boris johnson be the man to save the conservative party members seem to think so, yes, a new poll of conservative voters says the former prime minister remains the most popular candidate to succeed rishi sunak as tory leader and the study, commissioned by party supporter lady finds more lady mcalpine, finds that more than half of those who voted for the party in 2019 will not do the party in 2019 will not do the same in the next election, but they would if boris johnson was put back in charge. well, joining us now from westminster is our political correspondent, olivia hartley. now there's you know, this comes up quite a bit whether boris johnson should return and whether he'd turn around the fortunes of the conservative party. but with a general election looming , it general election looming, it could well be actually that when there's a conservative leadership election that boris johnson is back on the ticket . johnson is back on the ticket. >> it could possibly be boris johnson was in frontline

politics for about a decade, with just a little over a decade, and in all of that time, there were quite a few moments where it looked as though it was the boris johnson's the end of boris johnson's career. again, he rose career. and yet again, he rose like a phoenix from the ashes. the partygate scandal and the, uh, the, the banished from parliament. in the end , felt parliament. in the end, felt like the end of boris johnson's career. but as i say , we have career. but as i say, we have seen this happen time and again before . and in the end, boris before. and in the end, boris johnson has come back. could he actually rise again? uh, like a phoenix from the ashes after what seemed like a the grand finale of his career? well it does seem just possible . last does seem just possible. last week, rishi sunak was interviewed on whether or not he would, uh, welcome , um, boris would, uh, welcome, um, boris johnson's return to frontline politics. and actually, he didn't say no, he didn't rule it out . there are plenty of people out. there are plenty of people as this poll demonstrates, within the conservative party, who feel like boris johnson is the conservative party's only hope now. and you can see where

they're coming from. boris johnson managed to win that 2019 election with a majority of 80. almost nobody was expecting that. whatever you think of him, he has a sort of he has a pull with certain sections of the public. but for every one conservative voter who loves him and is desperate to see him come back, there is at least one other who was very glad to see the back of him a couple of years ago, and would not welcome his return at all. the other question, of course, is whether bofis question, of course, is whether boris johnson would want to come back. he's designed a pretty nice life for himself after leaving parliament. he's got a £4 million. i think it is mansion in in oxfordshire . um, mansion in in oxfordshire. um, and he's making a lot of money on the after dinner. speaking circuit, something which he always excelled at even before he was prime minister would he throw all that in for the rough and tumble of politics again? perhaps. uh any of us would probably not do that. but in bofis probably not do that. but in boris johnson's case, there are those around him who say he is

really, really keen to not only restore his legacy, but actually get to work on some of the projects which he was voted in to on in 2019 and failed to to work on in 2019 and failed to do because obviously the covid pandemic completely derailed his premiership . my instinct is if premiership. my instinct is if bofis premiership. my instinct is if boris johnson was invited back to frontline politics, he would be only too keen to accept. but we'll have to wait and see what happens. >> yeah, you make a great point, olivia. i think figures released last year show that boris earned something near £5 million for speeches. he got £2.5 million advance for speeches that he would do to banks such as goldman, etc. so question marks over whether, i mean, let's be real, he probably won't come back before the election. but what about after the election? if when the tories are if and when the tories are annihilated, as some predict ? annihilated, as some predict? >> i mean, it's a really interesting question. it's very hard to imagine what sort of state the conservative party will be in after the election . will be in after the election. of course, it depends on, well , of course, it depends on, well, we're assuming here that they

are going to lose the election. of course, that's not an absolute given, but it does depend the depend a little bit on on the sort of scale of the loss, if there the sort of there is the sort of obliteration that some are predicting , then there will be predicting, then there will be plenty of conservative mps, particularly those on the on the backbenches. particularly those on the on the backbenches . at the moment there backbenches. at the moment there are still quite a few boris supporters among them, who would like to see the conservative party change tack completely . party change tack completely. they would like to see a sort of, , proper right winger of, uh, proper right winger as they it, thatcherite they think of it, a thatcherite take charge and what they would like to see take is, a like to see take charge is, is a is a politician like boris johnson, has that johnson, someone who has that kind to, um, and that, kind of career to, um, and that, that sort draw with the that sort of draw with the public, many people say public, which many people say rishi sunak lacks. so if there is that obliteration on the party benches, there is massive division within the conservative party that i can just about see a narrow opening for boris johnson to, to, to squeeze up through. but i think more likely my, my money would be on someone like kemi badenoch taking the reins after a potential tory

defeat. >> yes of course . and if you >> yes of course. and if you polled the rest of the public not just conservative voters, you there's you might find that there's little for a bojo little appetite for a bojo comeback. but there you go. thank you very indeed. thank you very much indeed. olivia political olivia utley. our political correspondent joining us now is conservative mp sally ann hart. >> good afternoon, sally, thanks for us. briefly. for joining us. just briefly. what's thoughts about this what's your thoughts about this this mega poll, nearly 14,000 tory members , uh, involved in it tory members, uh, involved in it as voters . as voters. >> yeah. well, i do think , um, i >> yeah. well, i do think, um, i personally feel very strongly that we all need to just pull together and stop working against each other , and we need against each other, and we need to actually, i think rishi said , to actually, i think rishi said, um, last week that the right needs to pull together in to order defeat labour. and actually having a keir starmer and labour government, um, for the next five years is would not be the best thing we've just got the thing though, sally track is thatis the thing though, sally track is that is that happening though? >> are the party pulling together because they're not showing an awfully unified , uh, showing an awfully unified, uh, projection of themselves. so

you've got various pressure groups within the party all battling it out . battling it out. >> well, i think there's a lot of talk in the press about the tory infighting, of talk in the press about the tory infighting , actually, at tory infighting, actually, at least the conservative party is a broad church, and we welcome debate within the party. uh, we're not like the labour party , we're not like the labour party, who is literally autocratic at the moment with allowing dissension from the ranks. it is really important that we maintain in a democratic discussion going forward. but we really do need to pull together and start working against each other, and we need to provide a clear vision for the long terme future. and provide a sense of hope for people . so we need to hope for people. so we need to appeal to core voters and middle england and, um , sally ann, england and, um, sally ann, i want to get your thoughts on the death of alexei navalny and what we've heard from lord cameron . we've heard from lord cameron. >> he said that the kremlin must face consequences . liz, in your face consequences. liz, in your view, what does that mean and what should that look like ?

what should that look like? >> i think we're looking at further sanctions, economic sanctions against russia . and sanctions against russia. and it's absolutely shocking . what it's absolutely shocking. what i mean, i've read the press. i don't know anything more than other people reading the press . other people reading the press. um, have seen you know, that perhaps, um , navalny's family perhaps, um, navalny's family are not allowed to see his body, that his body is covered in bruises in the morgue . it's bruises in the morgue. it's utterly, utterly disgusting what has happened to him. and if he's been murdered, which it looks like it has, then i think severe economic sanctions. and we must explore with our partners . um, explore with our partners. um, what further measures can be taken against against putin? >> um, i guess the worry is, is have we pulled that lever to the maximum ? maximum? >> um, already we know that russia is the most sanctioned country in the world. we've frozen billions of pounds worth of assets in this country . other of assets in this country. other countries in the west have done the same. i worry that there's

not a huge amount that we can do to add to that . to add to that. >> well, i don't know how much further we can go with sanctions, whether we can really target some of putin's friends and, and, you know, wreck physician property around the globe of , of russia, of putin's globe of, of russia, of putin's allies . but there globe of, of russia, of putin's allies. but there must be some way further we can do because we can't tolerate this sort of political assassin nation. i mean, it's a pretty he's a rogue man. he's a he's an autocratic ruler . and, man. he's a he's an autocratic ruler. and, you man. he's a he's an autocratic ruler . and, you know, with these ruler. and, you know, with these sort of mad people like that, it's very hard to reason with them, isn't it, sally ann, just shifting gears a little bit, um, labour this morning has vowed to eliminate fox hunting within the first five years of power, saying that there's not a majority in any part of the country that wants to see it continue. >> what's your thoughts on that ? >> what's your thoughts on that? >> what's your thoughts on that? >> don't have fox >> well, we don't have fox hunting in country.

hunting in the country. >> they want to close various loopholes that allow some rural communities to continue the sport in one way or another . sport in one way or another. >> i think they're talking about drag hunting. so indeed they want to ban all sorts of country jobs and country pursuits , and jobs and country pursuits, and they clearly have no idea about rural countryside and rural jobs i >> -- >> so you emma hum >> so you think it would be a mistake to go further with the fox hunting ban? >> yes i do, that's very interesting indeed, because the labour party are also appealing, trying to appeal to rural communities . communities. >> they don't want to be seen as constantly urban minded in their approach. you're saying that by banning further fox hunting and, and, and similar activities, that actually they'd be alienating those rural voters ? alienating those rural voters? >> absolutely. and i think fox hunting is already banned in there . we have a ban on fox there. we have a ban on fox hunting. so what they're trying

to do is actually destroy all those rural jobs, the keeping of hounds, the drag hunting they have by do it by, by, by saying that's what they want to do. they show very little understanding about rural . understanding about rural. communities and rural jobs. >> they would argue that animal rights have to come first, and that some practices are barbaric , or go against the rights of animals . do , or go against the rights of animals. do you , or go against the rights of animals . do you not do you not animals. do you not do you not see that ? see that? >> well, i don't think dog and horses, particularly , um, hate horses, particularly, um, hate doing the drug hunting . i think doing the drug hunting. i think they find it quite, quite exciting . and how far do we go? exciting. and how far do we go? you know , we have our farms, we you know, we have our farms, we got farms who are targeted by these animal rights activists just for keeping cattle and sheep. we've got to keep a balance here. >> sally ann, just very briefly, there was an interesting story in the telegraph over the weekend about more than up to 100 tory mps thinking of, quote, jumping ship before the election in your majority down in sussex

is about 4000, i believe is that right? are you tempted to jump ship for 43? are you tempted to jump ship for 43? are you tempted to jump ship before facing the people? absolutely not. >> i'm a conservative mp and i believe in the conservative party i believe in the prime minister and i think we have a very good chance of winning. >> what do you make of your colleagues who are quitting before facing the public? colleagues who are quitting beva'e facing the public? colleagues who are quitting beva thinkng the public? colleagues who are quitting beva think if the public? colleagues who are quitting beva think if i he public? colleagues who are quitting beva think if i think blic? colleagues who are quitting beva think if i think it's? >> i think if i think it's probably media nonsense, it's speculation and i would remind colleagues , if they were colleagues, if they were tempted, that they are conservative, elected as conservative, elected as conservative and only a conservative government can defeat labour. well thank you very much indeed for your time, sally arnot, great to speak to you, conservative mp. >> yeah, interesting point about fox hunting. there are lots of loopholes at the moment and if you go to places like the boxing day hunt lewes, actual day hunt in lewes, in actual fact, maybe not in lewes particularly, but other places they found evidence where they have found evidence where they have found evidence where they doing, uh, they are still doing, uh, traditional normal fox hunting, using foxes. so this is

using normal foxes. so this is the problem. >> mean, generalisation >> i mean, it's a generalisation , large, rural , but by and large, rural communities are more likely to be conservative held and then urban more likely to be urban areas more likely to be laboun urban areas more likely to be labour, at least in england anyway. so there that, you anyway. so there is that, you know , idea that labour are for know, idea that labour are for the urban, the urban voter and the urban, the urban voter and the conservatives represent the, the conservatives represent the, the rural communities. but we'll see at the next election if that changes. >> yeah. okay let's turn our attention to russia . now, attention back to russia. now, the government is currently assessing government assessing the uk government is assessing the uk government is assessing the response to the death vladimir death of jailed vladimir putin, critic alexei navalny, lord cameron has suggested there could be more sanctions on russian officials as shadow foreign secretary david lammy called government to called on the government to review sanctions undertake review sanctions and undertake new efforts to those new efforts to target those responsible for corruption. >> well, joining us now in the studio is our reporter, charlie peters . charlie are just out of peters. charlie are just out of interest when we're talking about more sanctions on russia. do you know where we are in terms of sporting events? because that's something that people say could affect putin in a way that some financial

sanctions ones don't in terms of the ego ? the ego? >> well, in the last decade, there's been vast exposures of corruption, in particular with doping in russian sport, which has to led widespread blocks on the russian involvement in the olympic games and also some other major athletic events . you other major athletic events. you may recall a documentary film called icarus, which uncovered widespread corruption and doping strategies in that space. britain has always led the way in europe , in particular in in europe, in particular in terms of tax ailing the doping crisis in russia, lord coe , crisis in russia, lord coe, formerly organiser of the olympics, now um, in involved in the international athletics federations. he took a very strong line on the issue of russian doping. when that scandal arose. but what the foreign secretary, lord cameron, is talking about today is the potential for fresh sanctions towards russian actors close to vladimir putin. we know that

right now. the widow of navalny is in brussels meeting with european policy chiefs. she's recently met with charles michel, the eu council president, and the eu's foreign policy chief, josep borrell said that they could target those in the russian penitentiary system . the russian penitentiary system. of course, the widow yulia says that they haven't been able to access the body to assess the damage and she is alleging that they are allowing the nerve agent novichok to exit his body before public observation and more authorities are allowed to assess him. what cameron is calling for reportedly also includes the seizing of russian assets that have been frozen in europe. hundreds of billions of dollars of supposedly dirty russian money have been held by the authorities. the i newspaper reported this morning that this has been with resist to some degree by the city, who are concerned about the state

seizing assets in such a manner, even if they are connected to dirty russian money, but no clearance on what the government's plan is at the moment . lord cameron is moment. lord cameron is currently on a plane to the falkland islands ahead of attending the g20 meeting of foreign ministers in argentina . foreign ministers in argentina. to. we do know that the shadow foreign secretary, david lammy, has called for fresh sanctions to take place and he's also pointed towards, quite interestingly, london as europe's dirty money capital. and he said that whatever happens next needs to be serious and a clean up of britain's streets in 2008, the then labour government introduced the so—called golden visa scheme, allowing people essentially to buy citizenship. this scheme only lasted for seven years, but it was exploited by thousands of potentially nefarious foreign actors, in particular those of chinese and russian origin . that chinese and russian origin. that has left a legacy of dirty money in london. and this is what the

shadow foreign secretary has said he wants to see cleaned up . said he wants to see cleaned up. >> what do you make of david lammy's comments that he wanted to putin in the hague? to see putin in the hague? >> well, he wants a special >> uh, well, he wants a special tribunal , >> uh, well, he wants a special tribunal, uh, to deal with this. um, i don't think mr putin is going to be facing that risk any time soon, especially while this war goes on. and as you have said in the last hour, ben, there has been recent russian military success in the east. another way that europe and western powers could resist this assassination, as it's being dubbed of navalny in siberia , is dubbed of navalny in siberia, is through further arms to ukraine. there is that $60 billion package currently delayed going through congress. denmark has given all of its artillery over to the ukrainians , as britain is to the ukrainians, as britain is obviously a major supplier of artillery. but in those recent defeats, the first major ukrainian defeat in over a year, they have found themselves

vastly outnumbered, not only in terms of manpower but in artillery support. frankly, the west and europe in particular cannot produce the number of shells that ukraine needs, lammy might want putin in front of a special court, but in the meantime, he's still fighting a war. >> well, thank you very much indeed, charlie peters. are reporter there now, still to come, the prince of wales is doing good when it comes to homelessness. he's announced plans to build homes on duchy of cornwall, land that's to tackle homelessness. and it seems like it's going a rather large it's going to be a rather large scheme . we'll bring you the scheme. we'll bring you the latest on that. you're watching scheme. we'll bring you the latestafternoonyou're watching scheme. we'll bring you the latestafternoon britain /atching scheme. we'll bring you the latestafternoon britain on hing

>> you're listening to gb news radio . radio. >> welcome back. it's 228. lots of you have been getting in touch about what sally—ann hart mp said there about fox hunting and various loopholes , as and the various loopholes, as lots people not very lots of people not very impressed that, the impressed with that, with the loopholes banning it. >> yeah, it just bit of >> yeah, it just seems a bit of a for labour.

a weird decision for labour. they wouldn't get they traditionally wouldn't get those anyway , so those rural votes anyway, so what's the point? well, no more that absolutely are that people absolutely are furious with prospect of furious with the prospect of anything to do with fox hunting. >> detest it. >> absolutely detest it. obviously, from an animal rights perspective . right. then, perspective. right. but then, of course, are loopholes. course, these are loopholes. this not quite hunting this is not quite fox hunting because is, of because fox hunting is, of course already banned. but anyway , in other news, the anyway, in other news, the prince of wales has announced plans build on duchy of plans to build homes on duchy of cornwall land. this is to tackle homelessness in the south—west of work alongside >> yes, work alongside homelessness charities saint petroc's . the projects will petroc's. the projects will provide 24 new homes in newquay with, quote, wrap support with, quote, wrap around support for people experiencing for local people experiencing homelessness to create a path to a permanent home. >> let's speak to gb news >> well, let's speak to gb news royal cameron royal correspondent cameron walker, details walker, who has the details please. so we mentioned 24 homes, but this could be much bigger than that. yeah . absolutely. >> emily, it's understood to be just the first in many housing projects right across the country prince and country that prince william and the cornwall the duchy of cornwall will be creating. thought creating. it's also thought that the national, well, the national

um, average i suppose , for um, average i suppose, for social housing is 30% of a new development that prince william and duchy of cornwall want to increase. that to 40. of course, since becoming prince of wales, prince william's now had access to 130,000 thousand acres across the country . and this new the country. and this new development in newquay, as you say, 24 homes. but it's more the support services that goes with it. it's all to try and support people at risk of homelessness . people at risk of homelessness. so there's going to be mental health support , counselling health support, counselling services, training and employment opportunities as well. and last year prince william launched his homewards campaign. it's a five year project with six flagship locations across the country to demonstrate homelessness can be ended when governments and local councils and businesses and local stakeholders all work together. so that's what prince william is trying to do here of course, he's just one man. he may be the prince of wales, he may be the prince of wales, he may be the future king. but i

think it's more he's obviously not to homelessness not going to solve homelessness in , um, by himself. in this country, um, by himself. but suppose by spotlighting but i suppose by spotlighting all locations , he's hoping all these locations, he's hoping he can make a bit of a difference . yeah. and actually, difference. yeah. and actually, what better example what a what a better example than the prince of wales, the future um leading forth future king. um leading forth with the charge . to do this, i with the charge. to do this, i have to ask cameron . some people have to ask cameron. some people are going to hate me for this. what prince harry what do you think prince harry will looking across will be thinking? looking across the seeing william the pond and seeing william getting traditional getting stuck into traditional royal like this whilst royal duties like this whilst he's, know, attending , um, he's, you know, attending, um, glitzy whatnot . glitzy ceremonies and whatnot. yeah, i think over the last couple of years there has definitely been perhaps a bit particularly online, a bit of a rivalry between william rivalry between prince william and harry behind the scenes. i don't think as much. of course, prince william was also on the red last night red carpet himself last night for of bafta , but i for as president of bafta, but i think to be honest, kensington palace are very much ignoring what's going on across the other side just as side of the atlantic. just as the sussexes seem to be ignoring side of the atlantic. just as the sprinces seem to be ignoring side of the atlantic. just as the sprince williamo be ignoring side of the atlantic. just as the sprince william is)e ignoring side of the atlantic. just as the sprince william is doing)ring side of the atlantic. just as the sprince william is doing as|g what prince william is doing as well. gone in separate well. they've gone in separate directions . they clearly directions. they clearly have separate and tasks,

separate ambitions and tasks, but prince william knows his duty. he knows his future king, and he's trying to make a difference ordinary people in difference to ordinary people in this country. >> well, thank very >> well, thank you very much indeed. our gb indeed. cameron walker, our gb news correspondent. there news royal correspondent. there it's nice see you, prince it's nice to see you, prince william, something it's nice to see you, prince william, productive.athing it's nice to see you, prince william, productive. well] actually productive. well that's, uh, useful and helping other people less fortunate. >> well, that's my point. um, no offence to harry, but they talk a about compassion and, you a lot about compassion and, you know, and stuff. but it know, humanity and stuff. but it never really seems to manifest in anything proper. whereas prince , as far i can prince william, as far as i can see, just head down see, just gets his head down and, um, cracks on and comes up with really great plans. >> if you're truly >> yes. if you're truly compassionate, you probably >> yes. if you're truly comp need1ate, you probably >> yes. if you're truly comp need1at> yes. if you're truly comp need1at

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afternoon britain on gb news. now we touched on this earlier in the show. this brand new poll that boris johnson would apparently bring back half of lost tory votes. and so he's the favourite to replace sunak, at least among concern voters. >> yeah, it was a mega poll wasn't it. wasn't just 100 or 200 voters. it was nearly 14,000. so pretty damning, which is more than most polls. 14,000. so pretty damning, which is more than most polls . yeah, is more than most polls. yeah, exactly. so it's pretty damning , exactly. so it's pretty damning, uh, support case to uh, support for the case to bnng uh, support for the case to bring back boris. it come bring back boris. will it come before election if ever before the election if it ever happens? to be honest, he's earning a year earning nearly £5 million a year doing to the likes of doing speeches to the likes of goldman doing speeches to the likes of golthat1 quite incredible, >> that is quite incredible, isn't it? >> yes. >> ea- ea— >> your prime minister for a little while, and then you can rake in £5 million year, rake in £5 million a year, i guess he's, uh, you know, he's got some, uh, oomph. he's got some charisma that people will pay some charisma that people will pay money for. >> that's the thing. he >> well, that's the thing. he was famously or infamously short >> well, that's the thing. he wa policy,1sly or infamously short >> well, that's the thing. he wa policy,1sly big1famously short >> well, that's the thing. he wa policy,1sly big on nously short >> well, that's the thing. he wa policy,1sly big on characterort >> well, that's the thing. he wa policy,1sly big on character .�*t on policy, but big on character. he can win elections. he won the london mayor election against the won that massive the odds. he won that massive majority but should we majority in 2019. but should we get our. get the thoughts now of our. but he's much marmite , very he's very much marmite, very much marmite. think he much marmite. i think he definitely start.

definitely is now other start. he billed you know, he was billed as you know, thatcheresque proper thatcheresque a proper conservative, but he kind of lost his a little bit. lost his way a little bit. people say he went down the road lost his way a little bit. pe nete say he went down the road lost his way a little bit. pe net zero.he went down the road lost his way a little bit. pe net zero.he we ashown the road lost his way a little bit. pe net zero.he we ask our the road lost his way a little bit. pe net zero.he we ask our panelyad to net zero. let's ask our panel superstar of news nana, who superstar of gb news nana, who quit, political editor , a quit, and political editor, a superstar in his own right, kevin schofield . kevin schofield. >> he left out equality superstars. we're all superstars in our own way, in our own way, in our own way, in our own way, in our own special way. >> nana. if i remember rightly , >> nana. if i remember rightly, you're quite a fan of bojo . do you're quite a fan of bojo. do you're quite a fan of bojo. do you think he'd be running the show better than rishi? >> well, i think anyone could run the show better than rishi. i at time, this is i did say at the time, this is the thing that the most stupid thing that they've ever done he they've ever done because he was democratic as democratic elected and also as most unsavoury way that they thought that they'd sort of get rid of it was almost what rid of him. it was almost what has happened is almost like what's donald has happened is almost like what's is donald has happened is almost like what's is that donald has happened is almost like what's is that rid 1ald has happened is almost like what's is that rid ofd trump is that you get rid of people in an unceremonious manner. see manner. and those watching see how behaving , those how you're behaving, those people likely to go onto the people are likely to go onto the side of the person that you've upset. so a lot of people were angry way treated angry at the way they treated boris. other thing i the boris. but the other thing i the problem with the conservative

party, really change problem with the conservative parileader really change problem with the conservative parileader will ly change problem with the conservative parileader will do change problem with the conservative parileader will do anything. ge the leader will do anything. i think totally i think they're totally wrong. i interviewed dame andrea jenkins on saturday and she said, bring back boris . i on saturday and she said, bring back boris. i said, what about that six week bit where you're looking for a leader and looking for a new leader and this, and other and this, that and the other and you've got all the 1922 committee the nonsense committee and all the nonsense that on. people will not that went on. people will not tolerate it. but she said, well, we couldn't particularly do any worse. i noticed in this worse. but i noticed in this poll that 80% of one time conservatives , these are people conservatives, these are people who sort of , they lent the vote who sort of, they lent the vote to, said that if they had a more conservative leader, they are more to vote more likely to vote conservative. all rishi sunak conservative. so all rishi sunak needs to is , for god's sake, needs to do is, for god's sake, adopt a conservative policies, because richard tice was right . because richard tice was right. they're like two socialist parties . we haven't got a proper choice. >> that's interesting though, kevin, lot of people kevin, because a lot of people on say that this on the left say that this current is a far right. >> i mean, yeah, i mean, i would yeah , i don't go along with that. >> you know, it's so easy to throw around , you know, fascism throw around, you know, fascism and all these types of labels. you know, it kind of, um, dilute the true meaning of the word.

but not coming but i mean, on he's not coming back. that's the bottom back. that's, that's the bottom line and never. well well, well, you said yourself he's earning £5 million a year. why on earth would he. i mean, he's been prime minister. he obviously was desperate to be prime minister. he wanted to be world king when he kid. right? it he was a kid. all right? it didn't go for him. i didn't go very well for him. i think safe to was. think it's safe to say he was. he booted a reason. he was booted out for a reason. >> bofis he was booted out for a reason. >> boris not once say >> so did boris not once say that had, or at least friends that he had, or at least friends told newspapers that he had, quote, business? told newspapers that he had, qucyeah, business? told newspapers that he had, qucyeah, i business? told newspapers that he had, qucyeah, i stillusiness? told newspapers that he had, qucyeah, i still thinks? told newspapers that he had, qucyeah, i still think if >> yeah, but i still think if push came to shove, i mean, if he was so desperate to be leader again prime minister again, he was so desperate to be leader agai would ime minister again, he was so desperate to be leader agai would hee minister again, he was so desperate to be leader agai would he have ster again, he was so desperate to be leader agai would he have quitagain, mp? why would he have quit as an mp? well, instantly made well, he had he instantly made it more difficult for himself. >> he fl eeeeee, m speech, did he >> but he gave a speech, did he not? where he said at the in not? where he said at the end in a oh, la vista, hasta a uh oh, hasta la vista, hasta la i'll be back. la vista. i'll be back. >> yeah, yeah. he >> yeah, yeah. but he likes being mischievous, isn't being he's mischievous, isn't he? dropping these he? he likes dropping these little to get little bombs in there to get people talking. and you know, to drum up a of interest. well, drum up a bit of interest. well, bnng drum up a bit of interest. well, bring it back. he'll come back. but don't know. bring it back. he'll come back. butno, don't know. bring it back. he'll come back. butno, d> no, just simply. why not? i mean, if you believe mean, the tories, if you believe the are going wiped the polls are going to be wiped out why if out anyway, why wouldn't if bofisis out anyway, why wouldn't if boris is up for it, why wouldn't

the tories welcome the tories just welcome him back? one throw the dice back? one last throw of the dice and happens ? and see what happens? >> of all, i >> well, because first of all, i don't he's stupid don't think he's stupid enough to join a ship that has actually almost sunk. i mean, you'd have to be an idiot to do that. and i don't think i think boris is quite intelligent. um and i also think it's just i think think that it's just i think it's not considering the people, if they think that it's a good idea to spend six weeks or whatever it is on electioneering, which is an ego trip ultimately, because they think they're going to think that they're going to do a bit better when they're going to lose sorry to say, lose anyway. i'm sorry to say, um, the dogs have to be um, i think the dogs have to be an mp, so. >> well, no . the seat. >> well, no. the seat. >> they didn't need >> well, they didn't need that with cameron, did they? with david cameron, did they? >> him >> they just brought him back. yeah, prime minister. >> yeah, well, i don't know, i don't know, i don't this don't know, i don't know this day and age. >> i don't know. they it >> i don't know. they did it with david cameron, david cameronwould involve rishi >> that would involve rishi sunak to give sunak then having to give him a period. i'm more of period. but i'm thinking more of after this general election. >> election. » m election. >> m of, uh, >> there'll be lots of, uh, people on manoeuvres, you know, we hear of robert jenrick wanting to be the leader. we hear braverman , of hear of suella braverman, of course, kemi badenoch and penny

mordaunt and grant shapps. course, kemi badenoch and penny mordaunt and grant shapps . they mordaunt and grant shapps. they go, johnson could throw go, boris johnson could throw his in the mix in the ring, his hat in the mix in the ring, then kevin, full of ego. >> what about a farage? johnson? anderson? oh my word of the true conservative. that's not instil fear into the labour party. >> i doubt it very much. i don't think that would be terribly. >> you think you'd enjoy that as a dinner party, kevin? >> you think you'd enjoy that as a d oh, r party, kevin? >> you think you'd enjoy that as a doh, i'll|rty, kevin? >> you think you'd enjoy that as a d oh, i'll tell kevin? >> you think you'd enjoy that as a d oh, i'll tell you,|? would >> oh, i'll tell you, it would be hilarious don't be hilarious to watch. don't don't wrong, it'd be don't get me wrong, it'd be great watch, but don't great fun to watch, but i don't think alternative think as a practical alternative to don't to a labour government, i don't think it would really, um, fly and, you know, why would he want to as leader of the to come back as leader of the opposition? it's the worst job in politics. also in politics. it's also especially if they've just been hammered. the general hammered. well the general point is what people are saying is that what people are saying is that what people are saying is they more is if they adopted more conservative policies. >> all they have to do keep >> so all they have to do keep the same leader. but just be conservative, just do that. >> well, do you think the labour party have got right idea? party have got the right idea? >> sticking >> they're clearly sticking with their starmer . he their man keir starmer. he was a bit of a to begin with. and bit of a dud to begin with. and then started changing. then the polls started changing. perhaps if the conservatives had just stuck the same person ,

just stuck with the same person, they'd be in a better place. >> absolutely. i believe that keir starmer went on this whole partygate though with partygate trip, even though with his which were his beergate antics, which were almost . um, but it was almost identical. um, but it was it . it. >> sakuma seb gorka zuma. >> sakuma seb gorka zuma. >> did you see the what was the kamasutra? the kamasutra ? that's kamasutra? the kamasutra? that's hilarious. no, no, listen. kiss starmer has just sat there quietly doing nothing. because every time he says something, he then rewinds. so he's just a u—turn and nobody can trust anything he has to say. but that's he nothing . he that's why he said nothing. he sat fence. he's got sat on the fence. he's got splinters he's made splinters and he's made literally a u—turn on every single one of their major policies. >> he should have just done what joe biden did and hide in his basement. >> you're in polls by >> you're ahead in the polls by stupid don't stupid amounts. yeah, just don't do anything. >> that's pretty much >> i think that's pretty much what that. >> i think that's pretty much whehe's that. >> i think that's pretty much whehe's not that. >> i think that's pretty much whehe's not really. that. >> he's not really. >> he's not really. >> mean, there's not really >> i mean, there's not really been a lot that can point to been a lot that you can point to and well, he's done and say, well, he's done this because able to because he's been able just to sit watch sit back and watch the conservatives tear themselves apart the apart and get rid of boris, the liz disaster, you know, liz truss disaster, you know, they're still doing themselves apart . yeah. apart now. yeah. >> i mean it'll be very interesting to see happens

interesting to see what happens with uh, the ceasefire with the, uh, the ceasefire debate. whether labour will debate. and whether labour will put their own motion in because obviously starmer has obviously keir starmer has changed on that one as changed his tune on that one as well. under pressure. but thank you, you kevin. you, nana. thank you kevin. coming the nhs trust get coming up, the nhs trust get this women's milk is this says trans women's milk is just as good as you know, the traditional women's breast milk. >> yeah surprise surprise that's come out of brighton. the university sussex and nhs hospitals trust. >> yeah. stay tuned for nana's view on that

>> your listening to gb news radio . right radio. right >> well, fury has very much been sparked after a leaked letter from the nhs trust revealed drug induced milk from transgender women is just as good for babies as women's breast milk. >> yum. sounds delicious. a medical director describes both types of milk as human milk, adding that they are the ideal food for infants. let's welcome back gb news presenter nana

akua, who i fear has something strong to say about this, and political editor for the huffington post, kevin schofield. question to schofield. nana my question to you is if you really cared about a baby or an infant and you knew you is if you really cared about a bvpossible infant and you knew you is if you really cared about a bvpossible risks1t and you knew you is if you really cared about a bvpossible risks about you knew you is if you really cared about a bvpossible risks about giving ew the possible risks about giving male breast milk, not least the nutritional value of it, why wouldn't you just give them formula ? formula? >> i'm sorry, but this is i just think this is disgusting. it's absurd. first of all, to compare something that has been generated. so these , these men generated. so these, these men who are trans women with biological men have taken a number of hormones, first of to all, enable their hormones to be stable so they can say they're women. then they are taking certain hormones to produce the actual breast tissue. so they're taking suppressants of tests , taking suppressants of tests, eamonn, and they're taking oestrogen and progesterone to enable the tissue. then they're taking other chemicals to create the lactation. and some of those chemicals can cause heart arrhythmias . and this all go arrhythmias. and this can all go across . first of all, if you across. first of all, if you were a woman and you were giving birth to a baby, you would know

that these chemicals that any of these chemicals could so we could cross the placenta. so we women have a very, careful women have a very, very careful we drugs of any sort women have a very, very careful wethat drugs of any sort women have a very, very careful wethat we drugs of any sort women have a very, very careful wethat we protectis of any sort women have a very, very careful wethat we protect our any sort women have a very, very careful wethat we protect our children. so that we protect our children. then of course, we know that the drugs can go through the drugs can go through into the breast can be found breast milk traces can be found and there is no real study that says that there are no traces of this stuff within it. there was says that there are no traces of tistudyff within it. there was says that there are no traces of tistudy invithin it. there was says that there are no traces of tistudy in 2022 it. there was says that there are no traces of tistudy in 2022 whichzre was says that there are no traces of tistudy in 2022 which this'as a study in 2022 which this hospital trust quote , as saying hospital trust quote, as saying that the breast milk was fine , that the breast milk was fine, testosterone remained testosterone levels remained even , but they didn't check what even, but they didn't check what was actually in the breast milk. and they have no way of knowing what damage or what effect that will on the person will have on the person who receives milk. and to receives this milk. and to compare say that it's compare it and say that it's just as good is rubbish, because actually , when is actually, when a baby is suckling, if the baby has some sort of illness something , sort of illness or something, what within the baby's what the baby within the baby's saliva a chemical that then saliva is a chemical that then goes through into the breast milk and it reconfigures the type of milk that the mother produces to help with whatever that also within breast that is. and also within breast milk have, we have antibodies milk we have, we have antibodies passing through it. milk we have, we have antibodies passing through it . we have all passing through it. we have all sorts of things passing through to baby. it is tailor

to assist the baby. it is tailor made for that baby and made milk for that baby and i cannot a medical cannot believe that a medical organisation would be stupid enough to say that it's as good as breast milk. >> it's rubbish, but i guess a lot of people would say that , lot of people would say that, you know, we already have formula milk for children. there are women who can't breastfeed. if study has looked into if this study has looked into this and they say actually it is fine for babies, then what's the problem? nana well, use formula milk then why is a man putting a thing on his thing to do this? milk then why is a man putting a thirit'sn his thing to do this? milk then why is a man putting a thirit's toris thing to do this? milk then why is a man putting a thirit's to me hing to do this? milk then why is a man putting a thirit's to me ,ing to do this? milk then why is a man putting a thirit's to me , thiso do this? milk then why is a man putting a thirit's to me , this isio this? >> it's to me, this is somebody's perversion in my view. and all they want to do is fill the notion of breastfeeding . it is not about the safety of the baby . this is about the baby. this is about satisfying the identity and identity crisis within somebody who believes that they're a woman. >> e“- woman. >> nana being harsh if >> kevin, is nana being harsh if this is deemed fine by an this milk is deemed fine by an nhs trust, by this study that they're backed by, then what's they're backed by, then what's the problem ? the problem? >> um, mean, i don't know >> um, i mean, i don't know whether a perversion or >> um, i mean, i don't know wheti er a perversion or >> um, i mean, i don't know wheti mean,a perversion or >> um, i mean, i don't know wheti mean, my,rversion or >> um, i mean, i don't know wheti mean, my, mysion or >> um, i mean, i don't know wheti mean, my, my take)r >> um, i mean, i don't know wheti mean, my, my take on it not. i mean, my, my take on it is ultimately what's for good the baby. if it's good for the

baby, then fine. but the story here, the article does say that the quantity produced was lower than what would be needed quotes to infant growth. to sustain infant growth. independent so that would suggest, know , that there suggest, you know, that there isn't of it. and can isn't enough of it. and i can just from personal just speaking from personal experience kids were largely experience or kids were largely brought on formula milk and brought up on formula milk and they are completely fine. >> same as mine. my two they are completely fine. >> same as mine . my two boys are >> same as mine. my two boys are formula was my formula fed. well, that was my point. a trans woman point. if you were a trans woman , would why would you? , why would you why would you? why risk the breast why would you risk the breast milk concoction when you can just give formula, you just give them formula, you know, just read know, it's safe? i'll just read a statement from the a quick statement from the hospital trust involved in this in we stand in sussex. they said we stand by the the letter and the the facts of the letter and the size evidence supporting them. i guess. is there something >> i guess. is there something as panel ? as as two women on this panel? um, is it is there an idea that, you women you know, women are supplementary? they don't really. we don't need them . man really. we don't need them. man could do everything. >> think that's part of >> well, i think that's part of it. the part this it. but the other part of this which mentioned is which hasn't been mentioned is that trust are part of that that nhs trust are part of the stonewall diversity champions programme. so. and they have admitted that they got some of information from some of that information from external sources. so the bottom

line it an eradication in line is it is an eradication in a sense to me of women. and i feel that there's another agenda underneath it. there is no need for this. right . for any of this. all right. >> thanks to nana >> great stuff. thanks to nana and attendance and kevin for your attendance today. great fun. and to you, emily, for having me as well. and of course, to you, the viewers back next, it's viewers back home. up next, it's martin coming up? yeah i feel >> what's coming up? yeah i feel a queasy after that, man a bit queasy after that, man milk story, but let's plough through that. >> can we trust labour? >> can we trust labour? >> the big question >> that's the big question today. >> three u —turns today. >> three u—turns in one weekend on gaza , on brexit and on net zero. >> plus, we speak to a woman who's banning trans customers from her bar and a wronged mistress from a post office. >> plus, the latest on a block of flats in farnborough, 300 luxury flats being given to asylum seekers. despite the fact the locals do not want it and the locals do not want it and the anti—woke degree speaks to us. that's all coming up on my show three till six. but first, here's your latest weather forecast . forecast. >> a brighter outlook with boxt

solar sponsors of weather on gb views. news . views. news. >> alex burkill here again with your latest gb news weather forecast. there is some pretty unsettled weather to come as we go but go through this week, but for the being , it's largely the time being, it's largely fine because we've been under the influence of high pressure to the south of the uk, which has quietened our weather down. so although did see a of so although we did see a bit of rain earlier day rain earlier on in the day through there's through the afternoon, there's been of dry and at times been plenty of dry and at times sunny weather. however cloudy, wet weather spilling wet and windy weather spilling across scotland go through across scotland as we go through the further south and the night further south and elsewhere. staying mostly dry but thickening cloud from the west. the best chance of any clearer across clearer skies will be across eastern areas here, temperatures taking a bit of dip in some taking a bit of a dip in some prone rural spots. getting into low single figures. so perhaps a fresher tomorrow morning fresher start tomorrow morning than has been recently . than it has been recently. otherwise through the day tomorrow , a spell of wet and tomorrow, a spell of wet and windy weather then its windy weather then spilling its way across parts scotland, way across parts of scotland, northern ireland and later pushing their into parts of pushing their way into parts of

northern and northwestern england wales in the england and wales in the southeast, though here it should stay largely dry with the rain not arriving the overnight not arriving until the overnight penod not arriving until the overnight period , it is again going to be period, it is again going to be mild. highs of around 14 or 15 celsius in the south—east, something a little bit fresher starting push from starting to push in from the northwest front , then northwest behind the front, then into this is when into wednesday. and this is when we're likely the heaviest we're likely to see the heaviest rain some blustery rain and some strong, blustery winds , the wettest weather winds, the wettest weather likely across parts of the likely to be across parts of the southwest. here we're likely to see some disruption with some flooding possible, as as flooding possible, as well as some issues on the roads. more unsettled come as we unsettled weather to come as we go through later this week and into weekend. by by that into the weekend. by by that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on .

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