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on gb news broadcasting show on gb news broadcasting live from the heart of westminster all across the uk , westminster all across the uk, the war in gaza are still a major headache for sir keir starmer after initially backing israel's right to defend itself. now sir kyrees has called for a ceasefire that lasts plus , after ceasefire that lasts plus, after u—turns this weekend on brexit and net zero. today i'm asking the big question can we trust the big question can we trust the labour party next, i have the labour party next, i have the story of the just stop oil activist who's been convicted after her protest delayed nearly 4000 plane passengers . hope you 4000 plane passengers. hope you enjoyed prison food and the government is pressing ahead with plans to make it easier for schools to ban mobile phones. is this the correct choice or is one teacher's union right when they say it's a non—policy for a non—problem, that's all. coming up on today's show. non—problem, that's all. coming up on today's show . welcome to up on today's show. welcome to the show. hope you had a
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cracking weekend. it's another monday. let's get stuck in loads and loads to get our teeth into to got a superb interview to today. got a superb interview later on with a woman who's banned trans customers from her bar that one's going to kick off. but the big question today is do you trust the labour party.7 they seem to do u—turns more often than a driving instructor . this weekend, three instructor. this weekend, three alone on gaza , on brexit and on alone on gaza, on brexit and on the ban of petrol vehicles. get in touch with me gbviews@gbnews.com. do you trust the labour party.7 today's big question, but first time for your latest news headlines with sam francis . sam francis. >> martin, thank you and good afternoon from the gb newsroom. it's just coming up to 3:02. and as we've been hearing today, a man who piloted a boat across the channel has been the english channel has been found guilty of manslaughter. those watching on tv will be able to see this exclusive footage obtained by gb news of a
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rescue operation taking place in december 2022. you can see there tens of migrants being hauled out of the inflatable boat where four migrants drown during that crossing . after the boat ran crossing. after the boat ran into difficulty . ibrahim abbas, into difficulty. ibrahim abbas, who's a senegalese migrant, claimed that he had sailed boats before and that meant he was allowed to make the journey free of charge, while paid of charge, while others paid thousands. of charge, while others paid thousands . the judge said the thousands. the judge said the boat navigated using only boat was navigated using only mobile and as a result of mobile phones and as a result of his actions, four people lost their lives . a major crime their lives. a major crime investigation is continuing in bristol after three young children were found dead . children were found dead. officers responded to a welfare call and found the bodies of a boy aged seven. a three year old girl and a ten month old boy , a girl and a ten month old boy, a 42 year old woman was arrested at the scene and she was then taken to hospital and is still in police custody. we understand forensic examination are now underway to determine how those three children died. police also say a local church has been opened for people to gather and
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to mourn , while community to mourn, while community officers will remain in the area over the coming days. specialist dive teams are continuing to comb the river soar in leicester in search for a two year old boy who fell into the water there yesterday. leicestershire police are intensifying their efforts to locate the missing toddler with. we understand, the help of a helicopter and aerial technology , they say. he went technology, they say. he went missing on a section of the towpath beside the river while he was with his family. officers have also said rising water levels are presenting some danger , and they have asked the danger, and they have asked the pubuc danger, and they have asked the public to keep away from the scene . new guidance today has scene. new guidance today has been issued for teachers in england on restricting the use of smartphones in schools , as of smartphones in schools, as concerns grow over the impact of social media on young people , social media on young people, head teachers can now choose to include a ban on phones in their schools. behaviour policy, with provisions to search pupils if necessary. the union representing headteachers, though, says robust rules exist diminishing the guidelines as a
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non—policy for what they've called a non—problem. but earlier , speaking to gb news, earlier, speaking to gb news, the education secretary, gillian keegan, says the government is ensuring that clarity and consistency exists across all classrooms . classrooms. >> what we're trying to do is change the social norm, change the norm in our schools that that phones are are not acceptable in our schools and with some other countries have already done this. quite a few countries done countries have already done this, to make this, and we just want to make sure consistent and we sure that it's consistent and we make clear empower make it clear and we empower head and we head teachers to do this. and we think that mostly this is something that parents would welcome . welcome. >> campaigners today have lost a high court challenge over renewed plans to build a road tunnel near stonehenge. a proposal to build a two mile tunnel between amesbury and berwick down in wiltshire was denied by the high court in 2021 amid concerns over its impact on the environment. but when the department for transport reapproved the plans in july last year, a group called save stonehenge world heritage site
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launched a challenge in the high court. that claim, though, was largely dismissed today, with mr justice holgate describing the case as unarguable . in other case as unarguable. in other news, the widow of alexei navalny says that russian authorities are deliberately withholding his body. she says that's because they want to hide traces of a nerve agent, novichok . in a message posted to novichok. in a message posted to social media, yulia navalny vowed to continue his work, saying that she wants to live in a free russia . she also said the a free russia. she also said the reason for his death is known, and the deaths of those responsible with the details rather of those responsible, will be made public. >> alexei putin, putin killed my children's father . putin took children's father. putin took away the most dear person i have ever had. i want to live in a free russia . i want to build free russia. i want to build a free russia. i want to build a free russia. i want to build a free russia . free russia. >> and a uk cargo ship in the red sea has today been attacked by yemen's houthi rebels ,
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by yemen's houthi rebels, forcing the crew on board to abandon the ship. the uk's maritime authority confirmed the ship sustained catastrophic damage in the missile attack off of the coast of yemen. and we understand it's now at risk of sinking. it comes as the eu prepares to launch a new mission to protect commercial vessels in the and it follows the the region, and it follows the uk and us also sending their own military ships to the region. in december . military ships to the region. in december. and finally , lord december. and finally, lord cameron has now arrived in the falkland islands in a high profile demonstration that they are , he says, valued part of the are, he says, valued part of the british family. the historic visit, the first by a foreign secretary in 30 years, comes amid renewed argentine calls for negotiation on the island's future . lord cameron says the future. lord cameron says the sovereignty of the falklands, though, is non—negotiable , which though, is non—negotiable, which he says is in line with the islanders desire to remain british. those are the headlines for more. you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen. or, of course , go to our website course, go to our website gbnews.com slash alerts . thank
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gbnews.com slash alerts. thank you, sam ryan, let's kick off today's show with yet another labour party u—turn and this time sir keir starmer was caught for what he described as a ceasefire that lasts in gaza. >> now, bear in mind, previously , sir keir had defended israel's right to defend itself . but this right to defend itself. but this time sir keir made the comment in a speech at scottish labour's conference on wednesday. there will be an snp led vote on an immediate ceasefire this week, which will put labour mps views on gaza under the microscope once again . well, i'm joined in once again. well, i'm joined in the studio by our political correspondent olivia laing. i'm delighted to say we've got the associate editor the daily associate editor of the daily mirror, kevin maguire, with us, who's arguing with who's normally arguing with somebody else that works for this pierce. but this channel, andrew pierce. but today it's my turn. lovely. first, olivia, let's start with the position. over the weekend, it struck me we've seen three u—turns from the labour party this weekend on gaza . um, bowing
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this weekend on gaza. um, bowing to the mob. are they? that's the first one. the second one. um, at the munich security conference , sir keir said he conference, sir keir said he would like a closer alignment with the european union on defence. is that a brexit bit shift? and then thirdly , labour shift? and then thirdly, labour would reintroduce the petrol and diesel 2030 ban, according to the shadow roads minister, all of which makes people think can we trust this lot ? we trust this lot? >> well, i think starting with gaza, there are definitely two ways of looking at it . keir's ways of looking at it. keir's people, the aides around him are saying that what he said over the represent a the weekend does not represent a change in position. he has consistently said that ultimately, the prime ultimately, like the prime minister, like the uk government, he would like to see a ceasefire. it did seem to me as though over the weekend he went little further than went a little bit further than that. would like that. he said that he would like to ceasefire and that to see a ceasefire now, and that the israeli mission in rafah cannot happen. those were his words. no one obviously wants that to happen . but but keir that to happen. but but keir starmer did go a little bit further than he's gone before. now why is that ? is it because
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now why is that? is it because like the prime minister, like the uk government, like governments all over the world, the uk government, like goris'nments all over the world, the uk government, like goris deeply all over the world, the uk government, like goris deeply worriedr the world, the uk government, like goris deeply worried about/orld, the uk government, like goris deeply worried about about he is deeply worried about about the humanitarian crisis in gaza? definitely. that's part of it . definitely. that's part of it. but also it does feel as though he is under increasing political pressure. back in november, there was a motion in the commons debating whether the commons debating whether the commons wanted a ceasefire in gaza. the labour frontbench line was no . israel still had the was no. israel still had the right to defend itself. an immediate ceasefire was not what they were calling for, but in they were calling for, but in the process, keir starmer lost ten shadow ministers or shadow junior ministers from his front benches. 56 labour mps disagree read with the labour leadership position on that and called for a ceasefire in the intervening months as the situation gets more and more fragile , worse and more and more fragile, worse and worse. really, you can imagine that more and more labour members , labour voters and members, labour voters and possibly labour mps too are getting more and more concerned about what's happening in israel. is keir starmer now
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trying to find some sort of middle way, trying to find some ladder to climb down on this? so that when another motion along the same lines goes to the house of commons on wednesday, he doesn't have to split his party once kev let's turn to once again. kev let's turn to you on this. >> there's a feeling we've seen angela rayner being harassed by pro—palestinian protesters. rachel reeves was out campaigning weekend, campaigning at the weekend, had the same. keir starmer, of course, already chased course, has already been chased off . is this off trains in scotland. is this a shift of position or is it bowing to the mob? i think it's a shift in position. the facts change, each change his mind. >> i think that's it. you look at the 28,000 bodies piled up. >> uh , in gaza, the majority of >> uh, in gaza, the majority of them women and children who aren't fighters . aren't hamas fighters. >> as you're looking at what's happening in the wider region with attacks on with the houthi attacks on shipping, a british shipping, we've seen a british owned ship may may be in danger of sinking now as being hit. you're seeing tension the you're seeing tension on the border hezbollah in in the north. >> i think that's why he's changed. he's been a journey changed. he's been on a journey and a sustained and he's calling for a sustained , uh, ceasefire or a ceasefire that lasts, as he puts it, the
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snp on wednesday will propose an immediate ceasefire. i hope they don't get lost in semantics and words . and of course, you link words. and of course, you link the ceasefire , also the release the ceasefire, also the release of hostages . so you stop the of hostages. so you stop the killing of innocent palestinian boys going after the hamas leadership is entirely legitimate, but not the killing of so many innocent palestinians. and it to palestinians. and you link it to hostages you hostages releases. now, you can't fact the can't escape the fact the israeli military has released freed three hostages that we know of. alas, they sadly killed three others who tried to come out and were mistaken by the israeli military for combatants. but 110 were released in the in the week long ceasefire that happened. the week long ceasefire that happened . if you want to get the happened. if you want to get the other 100 plus hostages out , other 100 plus hostages out, which are most israelis do, and they should never have been taken in the first place. during that horrific pogrom on october the 7th. the way you will do that ceasefire, with a that is with a ceasefire, with a ceasefire, can get the ceasefire, you can get the hostages out and can hostages out and you can stop killing palestine's killing innocent palestine's persons while still pursuing the
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leadership of hamas. >> but you can see it does appear to be a u—turn because initially was . israel has initially it was. israel has a right to defend itself and that was broad international was the broad international community's . yet community's response. and yet now, the united now, you know, the united nations, the red cross, one by one, they've come out against this row. how would how would the labour party feel, for example, if britain had been invaded and took 1400? well, you can the public mood if can imagine the public mood if 1200, you know, 1200 people were were in israel. were murdered in israel. >> you scale it up population wise, it'd be about 10,000. in the uk . you can imagine how we the uk. you can imagine how we would all feel. and i understand where israelis are coming from. but he's not challenging. >> but presumably at that point the labour party would say we don't right defend don't have the right to defend ourselves . ourselves. >> he is not saying israel doesn't the right to defend doesn't have the right to defend itself . it's just how defend itself. it's just how you defend yourself and whether the way you act militarily is proportionate and, crucially, within the law. early on, i think he was a little too gung ho when he wouldn't criticise israel for withholding power and water from
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the civilian population of gaza , the civilian population of gaza, because many people think that is a war crime. and in fact, there is an international court now investigation in into the suspicion that law has been broken by israeli clearly was by hamas, which was a terrorist organisation on that day as it murdered, tortured , raped and murdered, tortured, raped and took hostages . but the israeli took hostages. but the israeli military now , for whatever military now, for whatever pubuc military now, for whatever public sympathy there was around the world, whatever legal um, right was on their side, i think is beginning to vanish and get wafer thin at best. >> uh, i'm interesting. kevin in what's going to happen on wednesday with this snp motion for a ceasefire in gaza . what for a ceasefire in gaza. what will keir starmer do ? because as will keir starmer do? because as you say, it does seem as though he has shifted position, perhaps because the facts are changing, perhaps political perhaps because of political expediency. what will he expediency. will he what will he do? will he whip his backbench again ? what's going to happen? do? will he whip his backbench agait's’ what's going to happen? do? will he whip his backbench agait's’ vbig 's going to happen? do? will he whip his backbench agait's’ vbig decision to happen? do? will he whip his backbench agait's’ vbig decision for1appen? do? will he whip his backbench agait's’ vbig decision for him. in? >> it's a big decision for him. uh, mean, personally uh, look, i mean, i personally think back snp uh, look, i mean, i personally think try back snp uh, look, i mean, i personally think try amend snp uh, look, i mean, i personally think try amend if np uh, look, i mean, i personally think try amend if you motion try and amend it if you
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want the wording want to change the wording slightly, succeed slightly, that doesn't succeed because presumably the government will vote against it. although , lord although david cameron, lord cameron, foreign secretary, cameron, the foreign secretary, who's been back, is who's been brought back, is getting very aggressive about israel now and talking about his deep concern and what could happen the if rafah are on happen if the if rafah are on the border of gaza and egypt is invaded. i don't know what keir starmer will do, but you and i and we all know is under intense pressure from his own side. and i think many people in britain to back a ceasefire, not siding with hamas, a ceasefire has to be two sides. but there's 28,000 palestine. ian's being killed . palestine. ian's being killed. how many more do we want to see die ? die? >> okay, let's pull back closer to home. brexit. the b word has cropped up again . sir keir cropped up again. sir keir starmer at the munich security conference, saying a closer security deal with the european union would be on the table day one with the labour party if they're in power. a lot of people have been saying, kev, they is of they think this is a sign of things to come. the mood music will death by a thousand will be death by a thousand paper cuts getting closer via
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little a full little treaties, not a full blown rejoin campaign, but rejoining in name all but name via step by step treaties like this. yeah nato will remain the corner of britain's international defence. >> some nervousness now about trump if he comes in, what he is saying , how he will behave. so saying, how he will behave. so you want to be closer to your neighbours, your european neighbours. now back in 2016, i don't think anybody who was voting for brexit was positively voting for brexit was positively voting to make britain weaker and less secure and more vulnerable , but you need to vulnerable, but you need to cooperate closely with your nearest neighbours militarily and look what's happened. >> trump's point is that everyone europe cough everyone in europe should cough up their gdp percentile. up their their gdp percentile. so is safer. britain so europe is safer. britain already does that. why do we need to be with the eu be stronger? >> yeah of course we're one of i think it will of 31 think it will be 18 of nato's 31 countries pay the countries this year will pay the minimum everybody should minimum 2. and everybody should pay minimum 2. and everybody should pay in your club. i wouldn't object to that bit of what trump said i would object is said. what i would object is when he says after that , well, when he says after that, well, if you don't pay, then russia
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can do what it wants in vaid and he's threatening aid as his republicans already are, withholding aid to zelenskyy in ukraine, resisting putin's, uh, putin's aggression. so are you. you just look what's happening overin you just look what's happening over in ukraine and you can see the value of close european cooperation on defence. it's not it's not rejoin the single market or the customs union or bringing back free movement. although, course , getting rid although, of course, getting rid of movement, as know, of free movement, as you know, is resulted in net is just resulted in net migration soaring to record levels , never took back control levels, never took back control of the borders on that. >> you know , we can agree. >> you know, we can agree. olivia, you have another question . question. >> think i think >> well, i think i think martin's to that martin's right to say that that keir trying to sort keir starmer is trying to sort of rejoin the eu by a thousand cuts by the back door as she was thissecurity . >> security. >> security. >> he was he's also been talking about a refugees partnership , a about a refugees partnership, a partnership whereby we take in migrants from the eu . and in migrants from the eu. and in exchange we can send back migrants overseas. i mean, what what would brexiteers who voted for conservative party in for the conservative party in 2019 who believed in brexit
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didn't trust the labour party for that reason , are now for that reason, are now thinking going back to thinking of going back to laboun thinking of going back to labour. can they trust labour. can can they trust labour. can can they trust labour to stick with the brexit message? well, money can't, can't brexit because it can't trust brexit because it hasn't they were hasn't delivered what they were told , uh would deliver. told it would, uh would deliver. >> which why support for >> which is why support for brexit is write down. and brexit is really write down. and there are many people having regrets. but starmer isn't a general fight in an old war. if we're talking about defence and european cooperation , he knows european cooperation, he knows he's a fight. next war. he's got a fight. the next war. i like him to take a far i would like him to take a far more positive and active position on on europe, and i think it might even win him votes. but he's not he's just not doing he not he's not doing it. he doesn't want go there. doesn't want to go back there. so if you voted brexit you can vote labour and you can keep your i think it's a bad your brexit. i think it's a bad brexit. i think you made a mistake for it. you mistake voting for it. if you feel you're quite feel let down, you're quite rightly down so much rightly let down because so much of promised was of what you were promised was never going to appear well on that. >> i think a lot of people who voted brexit will agree, you know, actually get know, did we actually get a proper brexit done? kevin maguire has been excellent to have come back have you in. please come back olivia utley as well. superb start the show and to the start to the show and to the week. you both. superb.
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secretary. david lammy says the uk should take action against russian money in this country. mr lammy tweeted under the tories , britain became the money tories, britain became the money laundering capital of the world. our tributes to navalny must be more than just rhetorical and include tangible action to clean up the financial crime fuelling autocrat abroad and blighting britain's streets . well, let's britain's streets. well, let's speak now with our reporter , mr speak now with our reporter, mr charlie peters, for this latest development. charlie, thank you for joining us on the show. so forjoining us on the show. so the alexei navalny , um, death the alexei navalny, um, death has now spilled out into domestic politics. what's mr lammy been saying and what's been the response as well? >> the foreign secretary , lord >> the foreign secretary, lord cameron, is currently travel to the falkland islands ahead of a foreign ministers meeting of the 620 foreign ministers meeting of the g20 in argentina . it's g20 in argentina. it's understood that he is expected to call for fresh sanctions in russia , but details of that russia, but details of that haven't been forthcoming just
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yet . in the last two hours, the yet. in the last two hours, the widow of alexei navalny, yulia , widow of alexei navalny, yulia, has been meeting with foreign policy leaders and indeed senior european political figures in brussels , the eu foreign policy brussels, the eu foreign policy chief, josep borrell indicated that members of the russian penitentiary system could be facing sanctions under an eu sanctions plan, which was first mooted by the german foreign minister this morning. but we've also understood from the plans potentially coming through from david cameron is that he is interested in seizing assets currently frozen russian central bank assets in london. some hundreds of billions of pounds being held , especially since the being held, especially since the invasion of ukraine almost two years ago. the i newspaper reported this morning that city insiders are concerned about this potential move. the use of state power to seize assets could spark concerns for
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international investors, but shadow foreign secretary david lammy does clearly want more action taken to deal with what he describes as, you know, dirty money on britain's streets. many labour figures have pointed to an old scheme the golden visa scheme, where people could invest in britain and be rewarded with citizenship. this ran from 2008 to 2015, but reports more recently have suggested that some russian millionaires have continued to benefit from this system. after chinese nationals, they were the second biggest recipients of golden visas when it was officially on the books. but while those proposed sanctions are on the cards, some european leaders are calling for further action. even if they can't stop putin killing his political opponents inside russia , they opponents inside russia, they they want more action taken to prevent him from killing outside of russia. and that means arms support for ukraine. there is
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that $50 billion coin package being held up in washington . but being held up in washington. but european leaders say that they can do more. denmark has given its entire artillery in support this week, and we've heard in the commons in the last hour dunng the commons in the last hour during defence questions, members of the snp and labour calling on the government to send yet more armaments to ukraine. so while those calls to continue, it's likely that the political fallout from this killing of navalny will enhance over the coming days. >> charlie , the big question is, >> charlie, the big question is, will any of this work we've seen endless sanctions against putin's russia since the war in ukraine, and it hasn't had any impact really. >> we've seen in fact, russian gdp increasing because they're simply offloading their oil and gas to other countries who don't care about our sanctions, such as china and india. >> yes , a few sanctions on some >> yes, a few sanctions on some russian prison officials are unlikely to be the sort of knock out punch that many might be
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suggesting, but that's especially the case. while germany and other european countries continue to guzzle russian cash and are such demanders of those russian energy products , it's. but at energy products, it's. but at the same time, these mooted plans that are coming out of cameron's camp for these seizing of russian central bank assets , of russian central bank assets, that would be a significant step that would be a significant step that would be a significant step that would take further damage on the russian regime . um, but that would take further damage on the russian regime. um, but i think when it comes to really hammering putin's , uh, regime at hammering putin's, uh, regime at this time, most european diplomatic and security establishment members are saying that it's the arming of ukraine that's going to make the real difference. in the last week, they've had their only major victory , the russians of the victory, the russians of the last year, a significant town just north of donetsk. they were outmanned and outgunning ukrainian . forces significantly . ukrainian. forces significantly. and as the spring approaches and harsher fighting is set to come, many fear that ukraine is not
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prepared for a russian onslaught i >> -- >> okay, charlie peters, thank you as ever for an excellent summary of those events. superb. now lots more still to come between now and 4:00 including i look back at one of last year's biggest stories on the first anniversary of nicola bulley body being found. but first, it's body being found. but first, wsfime body being found. but first, it's time for your latest news headunes it's time for your latest news headlines with sam francis . martin >> thank you very much. it's just gone 3:30 leading the news this afternoon . soon, a man who this afternoon. soon, a man who piloted a boat across the engush piloted a boat across the english channel has today been found guilty manslaughter. found guilty of manslaughter. for watching on for those who were watching on tv . will be able to see hear tv. will be able to see hear this exclusive obtained this footage. exclusive obtained by of a rescue operation by gb news of a rescue operation taking place in december of 2022, shows tens of migrants being hauled out of an inflatable boat in rather choppy waters. four migrants drowned dunng waters. four migrants drowned during that crossing after the boat ran into difficulty .
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boat ran into difficulty. ibrahim abbas, who's a senegalese migrant, claimed that he had sailed boats before and that meant that he was allowed to make the journey free of charge, while others paid thousands. the judge today said the navigated using the boat was navigated using only mobile phones and as a result of his actions, four people lost their lives . a man people lost their lives. a man has appeared in court after vietnamese migrants were found in the back of a freezer lorry at newhaven ferry port. 42 year old anas al—mustafa , who lives old anas al—mustafa, who lives in swansea, has been accused of assisting unlawful entry into the uk after seven migrants broke through a wall and escaped from the van he was driving. prosecutors told the court that their exit was also helped by people on the outside . four of people on the outside. four of the seven migrants remain in hospital . a major crime hospital. a major crime investigation is underway in bristol after three young children were found dead . children were found dead. officers responded to a welfare call and found the bodies of a boy aged seven. a three year old girl and a ten month old boy, a 42 year old woman was arrested
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at the scene and she was then taken to hospital , where she taken to hospital, where she remains in police custody . remains in police custody. downing street says that the individual's responses for alexei navalny's death must be held to account. mps are discussing what action should be taken by britain in response to putin. the putin critics death shadow foreign secretary david lammy has signalled that if labour were to win the next election , he'd crackdown on election, he'd crackdown on dirty money that, he says flows from moscow into london and specialist dive teams are continuing to comb the river soar in leicester in search for a two year old boy who fell into the water yesterday. leicestershire police are intensifying their efforts to locate the missing toddler with the help of a helicopter and aerial technology. but officers say river levels and recent heavy rainfall has resulted in extremely difficult search conditions. they say he went missing on a section of towpath beside that river. those are the headunes beside that river. those are the headlines for more. you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go
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gb news radio. welcome back. >> it's 337. you're watching or listen to martin daubney on gb news later in the show i'll have a big update on the luxury flats in farnborough that were going to be handed over to 300 migrants, totally free of charge. they promised to press pause on it, but what's the truth? i'll have some exclusive video , audio and a new line on video, audio and a new line on that for you . but before that, that for you. but before that, a just stop oil protester cressida gethin has been found guilty of causing public nuisance after climbing onto a gantry over the m25 and causing massive traffic disruption. the cambridge university student delayed nearly 4000 plane passengers dunng nearly 4000 plane passengers during one of the hottest days
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of last summer. theo chikomba is at isleworth crown court for proceedings . theo, what's the proceedings. theo, what's the latest . latest. >> yes, well, in the last hour cressida was found guilty of causing public nuisance. as you rightly mentioned , in july 2022, rightly mentioned, in july 2022, she climbed on a gantry on the m25 , causing traffic for m25, causing traffic for hundreds of people in their cars and almost 4000 passengers who were due to be using british airways flights on that day . airways flights on that day. delays were caused and some even missed their flights as a result i >> -- >> and of course, she's been here just over a week. >> the trial took place here in west london and she was found guilty today. west london and she was found guilty today . a majority verdict guilty today. a majority verdict of 10 to 2. and i spoke to her just before she left a few moments ago and asked her whether she regrets what she did on that day. here's what she had to say . to say. >> quote i felt i needed a protest in a way that would break through the media
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narrative , break through and get narrative, break through and get the message heard . um, that , you the message heard. um, that, you know, 40 degrees in the uk is extraordinary . extraordinary. >> it came years before anyone thought it would. and that signals . us a thought it would. and that signals. us a huge amount of suffering for all of us, including the people on that motorway. um, so i know it might sound counterintuitive, sound kind of counterintuitive, but action them as but i took action for them as much else . you know, i much as anyone else. you know, i felt that moment people felt that moment where people actually felt the 40 degree heat and felt for a moment. >> this is what climate breakdown, you know, this is just the tip of the iceberg. felt that moment had to be seized , um, to expose what? to seized, um, to expose what? to expose the injustice of what the government is doing. which which is, you know, a ignoring, ignonng is, you know, a ignoring, ignoring the fact that their policies are are already killing people globally. and will continue to make things worse and worse and worse .
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and worse and worse. >> now, in terms of the government, they would, of course, defend their policies kc when it comes to issues that cressida is highlighting. >> but in terms of this offence, it can carry a custodial sentence of up to ten years. >> she'll be sentenced on the 3rd of may, so in a couple of months time. now during the trial, they also heard from um broadcaster and conservationist chris packham, who was here last week and said he was defending cressida's action and he was actually caught up in that traffic on that day on the way to work and was stuck for around four hours. and he says he understands why she'd done so. >> but as for today , though, she >> but as for today, though, she has been found guilty of the majority of 10 to 2. >> okay , theo chikomba, thank >> okay, theo chikomba, thank you for that latest from isleworth court and cressida gethin of just stop oil will face her justice on may the 3rd. sometimes actions have consequences . okay. moving on.
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consequences. okay. moving on. still to come . consequences. okay. moving on. still to come. i'll consequences. okay. moving on. still to come . i'll speak to the still to come. i'll speak to the man who's launched the uk's first anti—woke university course. looking forward to that one. but first in a gb news series , innovation britain. series, innovation britain. we're looking at the successors of the magnificent british manufacturing industry around the country . >> one of the biggest issues we're facing today in the manufacturing and engineering sectors is the fact that there's a skills shortage and a skills gap, but there's companies out there like this one that are doing something about it. >> here? >> well, here, income training we deliver engineering and manufacturing, we deliver engineering and manufactl start people we deliver engineering and manufacthtart people their >> so we start people in their engineering >> so we start people in their engineeweg >> so we start people in their engineewe see behind us today. people we see behind us today. and had and this year we've had our biggest people biggest intake ever of people going engineering, going into engineering, manufacturing apprentice manufacturing on an apprentice ship manufacturing on an apprentice shi|so did we get into this
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>> so how did we get into this situation in the place? situation in the first place? >> result of generations >> it's a result of generations of people into the of people not coming into the sector. trying to do sector. um, we're trying to do something we're something about that. we're trying to everyone that trying to show everyone that engineer manufacturers great engineer manufacturers a great career apprenticeship is career and the apprenticeship is a route into that career . a great route into that career. >> are you doing this ? >> and how are you doing this? >> and how are you doing this? >> what we're doing at inc.com is inspiring young people to come into the sector. there's loads of companies, big and small, within the uk, and these people are where they want to use their brain or use their hands. they're going into careers that will last them a lifetime . lifetime. >> and it's not just apprenticeships, is it? >> so we are >> it's not. no. so we are bridging skills gaps through a variety of programmes. last year we launched the first ever uk tool academy in partnership with with brandauer , a birmingham with brandauer, a birmingham based company. and that's for bringing in people who are already engineers to go from here to here through our full time programme . time programme. >> but you're also upskilling too, aren't you ? too, aren't you? >> we are, we are. we launch the uk's first ever tool and academy at our other site that is about
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>> you're listening to gb news radio . radio. >> welcome back . it's 346. >> welcome back. it's 346. you're watching or listening to martin daubney on gb news. it's a 4:00. i'll talk about the problems sir keir starmer is facing once again over gaza . but facing once again over gaza. but before that, i'm looking forward to this all weekend. professor has launched the country's first an 80 woke degree. eric kaufmann has started the course at the university of buckingham, and it comes after he left birkbeck, university of london after two decades of service , citing decades of service, citing political differences. well, i'm delighted to say professor eric kaufmann now joins me in the studio for fantastic, long, long overdue . so a lot of people will
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overdue. so a lot of people will be like saying an anti—woke degree. what what's that about and why was it even necessary ? and why was it even necessary? >> very well. i mean, anti—woke decree might be stretching it, but what i say is i've got but what i will say is i've got a course which is open to the public. it's an online course which for on which people can sign up for on woke . and i just said, well, woke. and i just said, well, this ideology like this is an ideology like communism, fascism, any other ideology, it openly ideology, let's study it openly and, you know, objectively that's not happening in universities. so this is this is one i'm doing at the one thing i'm doing at the university buckingham. um, university of buckingham. um, um, i want to do um, but also i want to do a master's program, you master's degree program, as you say be something say, which will be something that people to write that allows people to write dissertations explore for dissertations and explore for some of these topics which really touched most really aren't touched on in most universities in any detail. >> and one thing that gave me a particular hope when i read this story weekend was the particular hope when i read this stonthe weekend was the particular hope when i read this stonthe course weekend was the particular hope when i read this stonthe course was end was the particular hope when i read this stonthe course was born vas the particular hope when i read this stonthe course was born outthe particular hope when i read this stonthe course was born out of fact the course was born out of the fact that you guys are saying something i've been saying something i've been saying time, and that saying for a long time, and that is within academia, white men are prejudiced are now particularly prejudiced against, well, right, because you touched on two things race and gender. >> right. white men. that sort of them in crosshairs of puts them in the crosshairs of puts them in the crosshairs
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of those. of puts them in the crosshairs of and those. of puts them in the crosshairs of and sothose. of puts them in the crosshairs of and so inyse. of puts them in the crosshairs of and so in academia , i mean, >> and so in academia, i mean, what what we call woke is really making sacred, historically marginalised race, gender, sexual minority groups. >> and so these are the sacred groups that if you offend such groups that if you offend such groups in any way, therefore you're subject to some kind of cancellation or restriction . and cancellation or restriction. and what that means is whole areas of research . so white working of research. so white working class boys, for example, aren't really measures really being done. and measures to improve their lot are also deeply out of fashion. if it comes to a race gap, a gender gap that can only be explained by discrimination, never by anything else. that's an example of the distortion of academia that's taken place as a result of this ideology. >> and yet , of this ideology. >> and yet, um, i mean, when i started writing about this eight, nine, ten years ago, the data has been there for 20 straight years, eric. and yet it's irrelevant . it doesn't fit it's irrelevant. it doesn't fit in with the mindset that if you're born white and you're born a man, you've won life's great lottery , right? great lottery, right? >> well, yeah , there are these >> well, yeah, there are these ingrained ideological slants
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within the professoriate. >> for example , there have been >> for example, there have been a lot of papers published on bias against women in academia. only one of about ten papers finds bias against women more fine , bias against men. most fine, bias against men. most find no bias . fine, bias against men. most find no bias. the one that finds bias against women is cited out of all proportion to any of the any the others. so kind any of the others. so that kind of tells you that people see what they want to see and neglect. >> and fascinating is >> and what was fascinating is that james tudor, the that professor james tudor, the vice chancellor, who's also behind saying he felt behind this, was saying he felt that margaret had been that margaret thatcher had been at shoulder on this because at his shoulder on this because the battle for free speech and diversity of thought on campuses is withering away . eric, how is withering away. eric, how many people on campuses these days in terms of the staff, the tutors , the lecturers, the tutors, the lecturers, the professors, how many are conservative? >> extremely few. so, for example, right now in the social sciences in this country, it's about nine left to one on the right. that's up from about 3 to 1 in the mid 60s. so it's always leaned left, but it's now really left . at top left. and at the top universities it's even more
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extreme. harvard it's now 82 to 1 left to right. that just gives you an example of how much of a monoculture we've got and how little of thought. little diversity of thought. >> and does that help explain things that we about every things that we talk about every single channel? and single day on this channel? and that seems that the young that is, it seems that the young people coming out of our academic institutions have this political author doxey and monoculture, because they're all being taught by academics who agree each other. agree with each other. >> well, exactly. >> well, exactly. >> i mean, they're getting it from all. from the schools, first of all. but second thing is they're but the second thing is they're already to 1 left to already there's a 6 to 1 left to right split amongst students. already there's a 6 to 1 left to right sso: amongst students. already there's a 6 to 1 left to right sso there'sjst students. already there's a 6 to 1 left to right sso there's a: students. already there's a 6 to 1 left to right sso there's a: stuleft:s. right. so there's a big left overrepresentation. but the left now is more intolerant. so not only that, but the left is more intolerant than it was 20 years ago. so you've got that cocktail of left wing plus intolerant left wing. and that's what's giving us cancel culture. >> and a lot of people say, oh, it's just student. it's they're just being young. just just being young. they're just being of being silly. they'll grow out of it. thing is, of course, being silly. they'll grow out of it. these thing is, of course, being silly. they'll grow out of it. these people ;, of course, being silly. they'll grow out of it. these people are course, being silly. they'll grow out of it. these people are goinge, eric, these people are going on to work bodies and to work in public bodies and they'll running country . they'll be running the country. that's surveys we asking >> and surveys we have asking the questions 20 years
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the same questions from 20 years ago. much tolerant ago. find much more tolerant attitudes free speech. the attitudes to free speech. the reality is you've got this illiberal progressive generation. although i don't want to generalise too much particularly, female want to generalise too much partiymale 1, female want to generalise too much partiymale 1, workforce is than male entering workforce is leading to the kinds of workplace revolts that we've seen places like the new york seen in places like the new york times, for example. and times, for example. uh, and that's changing corporations and organisations, pushing them away from merit towards dei and various other kinds of ideological positions. >> and yet we see often times, conservative societies in mainstream universities being cancelled and having their speakers de—platformed formed. and so there is an extreme inter severance from the liberal left, the woke left on campus because it's a moralisation of questions that people differ on. >> right. so you're not just wrong, you're evil. if you're concerned of and this the concerned of and this is the problem is moved into problem is we've moved into a position. a survey position. there was a survey i saw of, you know, white american liberals who, you know, they were somebody were asked somebody who disagreed with immoral. do disagreed with me is immoral. do you agree with that statement? it almost half of those it was almost half of those people agreed. and we've people who agreed. and so we've got this problem of the moral
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ization political ization of political debate that's it becomes battle of that's it becomes a battle of good and evil rather than facts and fiction . and fiction. >> where does course come >> where does your course come in are you hoping to in then? what are you hoping to get out of it? who's going to sign people get out of it? who's going to sigrinvolved? people get involved? >> if go to my twitter >> well, if you go to my twitter , at epc, a u. fm, and then , it's at epc, a u. fm, and then the tweet will will take the pinned tweet will will take you to the course. it's online. um, don't have to enrol for um, you don't have to enrol for a degree or be assessed or anything . and what this is anything. and what this does is it takes belief it really takes this belief system is not system and says, this is not just a good person, being just being a good person, being nice whatever you're nice and whatever else you're told, this is ideology and it told, this is an ideology and it has history and it's got has a history and it's got certain social groups that support it. we need to understand that and treat it like any other ideology. >> and finally, we're seeing a hell of a lot of problems on british streets about palestine at the moment. that's one the at the moment. that's one of the strands, it not? that seems at the moment. that's one of the strbecome it not? that seems at the moment. that's one of the strbecome an|ot? that seems at the moment. that's one of the strbecome an orthodox seems at the moment. that's one of the strbecome an orthodox see ns at the moment. that's one of the strbecome an orthodox see on to become an orthodox see on campus. therefore it's coming onto our streets. student activist are so vociferous in their belief that israel is bad and palestine is good. >> well, it's a totalising worldview. you've got oppressor
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and oppressed, and that's racial ized into white and non—white. the jews are put in the white category. the palestinians and the jews are put in the white catenon—white'alestinians and the jews are put in the white catenon—white category,is and the jews are put in the white catenon—white category, as|nd the jews are put in the white catenon—white category, as the the non—white category, as the colonised. and it's through that lens that they're looking at this it's very this conflict. and so it's very absolute, very totalising and morally izing, again, not a way to have a debate. >> so therefore, eric, racism against jewish people is okay because they're white, essentially. >> yes. they're white. they're settlers. they're colonisers , settlers. they're colonisers, they're imperialists. and therefore they are, you know, all gloves are off when it comes to dealing with them. you know, it's that sort. and of course, what you can see is the flip side of this. oh, we're so nice to the downtrodden is in to the, to the downtrodden is in fact, going dehumanise to the, to the downtrodden is in factoppressor.ng dehumanise to the, to the downtrodden is in factoppressor. and dehumanise to the, to the downtrodden is in factoppressor. and soahumanise to the, to the downtrodden is in factoppressor. and so that|anise the oppressor. and so that dehumanisation, which we've seen to some degree with whites and males, seeing now males, we're also seeing now being to jews. being applied to jews. >> stuff. eric >> excellent stuff. eric kaufmann. so people, buckingham university people can go online and enrol, get stuck in. thank you much. and you you very much. yeah. and you brought common sense to brought a bit common sense to the sure get the channel. make sure you get gb on your on your gb news on on your on your course. i'd like to come and do gb news on on your on your c(lectured like to come and do gb news on on your on your c(lecture orike to come and do gb news on on your on your c(lecture or two.) come and do gb news on on your on your c(lecture or two. you he and do
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gb news on on your on your c(lecture or two. you should.do a lecture or two. you should. thank much. now moving thank you very much. now moving on to some breaking news from the football . and roy the world of football. and roy hodgson resigned as crystal hodgson has resigned as crystal palace manager. the former england boss, who's 76 years old, fell ill last week and was taken to hospital . just just to taken to hospital. just just to repeat, roy hodgson , the crystal repeat, roy hodgson, the crystal palace manager, has resigned from the post. the former england boss, who is 76 years old, fell ill last week and was taken to hospital. but the full details on that story as they emerge now . sir keir starmer has emerge now. sir keir starmer has changed his stance on the israel—hamas war. the labour leader has called for a ceasefire that lasts, and the big question is this can we trust the labour party? i'll be analysing that after this. on gaza, on brexit, on lit zero three u—turns. one weekend we'll have the full analysis of that. i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel .
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britain's news channel. >> a brighter outlook with box sponsors of whether on . gb news. sponsors of whether on. gb news. >> uh, like alex burkill here again with your latest gb news weather forecast, there are some pretty unsettled to weather come as this but as we go through this week, but for it's largely for the time being, it's largely fine because under fine because we've been under the influence of high pressure to the south of the uk, which has quietened our weather down. so did see a bit of so although we did see a bit of rain earlier on the day rain earlier on in the day through the afternoon, there's been plenty and at times been plenty of dry and at times sunny however, sunny weather. however, cloud and weather and wet and windy weather spilling as spilling across scotland as we go the night further go through the night further south staying south and elsewhere. staying mostly dry but thickening cloud from the west. the best chance of any clearer skies will be across eastern areas here, temperatures taking a bit of a dip prone rural spots dip in some prone rural spots getting into low single figures. so a fresher start so perhaps a fresher start tomorrow morning than it has been recently. otherwise through the tomorrow, a spell of wet the day tomorrow, a spell of wet and windy then spilling and windy weather then spilling its way across parts of
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scotland, northern ireland and later their into later pushing their way into parts of northern and northwestern and wales northwestern england and wales in the southeast, though here it should largely dry, with should stay largely dry, with the rain not arriving until the overnight period, it is again going to be mild. highs of around 14 or 15 celsius in the southeast , around 14 or 15 celsius in the southeast, something around 14 or 15 celsius in the southeast , something little around 14 or 15 celsius in the soufresher something little around 14 or 15 celsius in the soufresherstartinging little around 14 or 15 celsius in the soufresher starting toi little around 14 or 15 celsius in the soufresher starting to push tle around 14 or 15 celsius in the soufresher starting to push in bit fresher starting to push in from the northwest behind the front, wednesday and front, then into wednesday and this is when we're likely to see front, then into wednesday and this heaviest we're likely to see front, then into wednesday and thisheaviest raine likely to see front, then into wednesday and this heaviest rain and ely to see front, then into wednesday and thisheaviest rain and some see the heaviest rain and some strong, blustery winds , the strong, blustery winds, the wettest weather likely to be across southwest. across parts of the southwest. here, likely to see some here, we're likely to see some disruption, with some flooding possible, as well as some issues on roads more unsettled on the roads more unsettled weather as we go through weather to come as we go through later the later this week and into the weekend. by by that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on
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>> good afternoon. it's 4 pm. a very happy monday to you. thank you for joining very happy monday to you. thank you forjoining me on the show. you for joining me on the show. welcome to martin dalby show on gb news broadcasting live from the of westminster all the heart of westminster all across the uk. coming up, the heart of westminster all across the uk. coming up , the across the uk. coming up, the war in gaza are still a major headache for sir keir starmer. once again. he's now called for a ceasefire that lasts. plus in one weekend there have been u—turns on brexit plus net zero. and i'm going to ask the big question today can we trust the labour party ? i'll also have the labour party? i'll also have the story of the just stop oil activist who's been convicted after her protest delayed nearly 4000 plane passengers . and 4000 plane passengers. and there's news of a shocking report that 1 in 4 foreign care workers are breaking the law by working in other industries. when they get into britain and the government is pressing ahead with plans to make it easier for schools to ban mobile phones. but is it the correct decision? or as one union teachers union, right. when they say it's a non
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policy for a non problem, that's all coming up in your next hour. welcome to the show. thank you for joining me. your company is forjoining me. your company is always very very much appreciated. please get in touch. the usual ways gbviews@gbnews.com. the big question i'm asking today is this can we trust the labour party? they're now asking for a ceasefire in gaza. having initially said israel had the right to defend itself over the weekend, sir keir starmer was at a security conference in frankfurt and now he wants a closer defence alignment with the european union. many people saying, well, this is exactly what we expected. rowing back towards brussels and the shadow roads minister saying we will get that ban on petrol and diesel cars back into place in 2030. can we trust the labour party? that's today's big question. please get in touch the usual ways. but first your latest news headlines with polly
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middlehurst . middlehurst. >> martin, thank you and good afternoon to you. well, let's start this bulletin with some breaking news concerning roy hodgson . well, he stepped down hodgson. well, he stepped down as crystal palace managerjust as crystal palace manager just hours before their premier league meeting with everton. you may remember the 76 year old was hospitalised last week after falling ill during a training session that happened on thursday . session that happened on thursday. he's session that happened on thursday . he's now understood to thursday. he's now understood to be out of hospital after undergoing tests . he is, we undergoing tests. he is, we understand doing well but he has stepped down as crystal palace manager . in stepped down as crystal palace manager. in other news stepped down as crystal palace manager . in other news today, manager. in other news today, a manager. in other news today, a man who piloted a people smuggling small boat across the engush smuggling small boat across the english channel has been found guilty of manslaughter. english channel has been found guilty of manslaughter . those guilty of manslaughter. those watching on television will be able to see this exclusive footage obtained by gb news of the rescue operation in december 2022. for four migrants had drowned during that crossing after the boat had run into
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difficulty . dodi ibrahim abbaa, difficulty. dodi ibrahim abbaa, who's a senegalese migrant, claimed that he had sailed boats before, was before, which meant he was allowed the journey free allowed to make the journey free of charge, while others paid thousands. judge said the thousands. the judge said the boat navigated using only boat was navigated using only mobile phones and as a result of his actions, four people lost their lives . now, a major their lives. now, a major investigation . is underway after investigation. is underway after three young people were found deadin three young people were found dead in a house in bristol. police officers were responding to a welfare call when they found the bodies of a little boy, aged seven years old. a three year old girl and a ten month old baby boy . a 42 year month old baby boy. a 42 year old woman has been arrested at the scene. she's been taken to hospital and remains in police custody. forensic examinations are now underway to try to find out how those children died . out how those children died. police are saying a local church has opened for people to gather and mourn and pay their condolences , while community condolences, while community officers will remain in the area over the coming days and specialist dive teams are combing the river soar in leicester in the search for a
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two year old little boy who fell into the water yesterday. leicestershire police are intensifying their efforts to locate the missing toddler with the help of helicopters and aerial technology . but officers aerial technology. but officers are saying river levels are very high. recent heavy rainfall has resulted in extremely difficult search conditions . as they say search conditions. as they say he went missing on a section of the towpath beside the river. new guidance was issued today for teachers in england on the restriction of use of smartphones in schools, as concerns grow over the impact of social media on young people , social media on young people, head teachers can now choose to include a ban on phones in their schools behaviour policy with provisions for searches if necessary . the union necessary. the union representing head teachers , representing head teachers, though, says robust rules already exist. dismissing the guidelines as a non policy for a non—problem . but the education non—problem. but the education secretary , gillian keegan, says secretary, gillian keegan, says the government's ensuring clarity and consistency exists across all schools .
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across all schools. >> what we're trying to do is change the social norm, change the norm in our schools that that phones are not acceptable in our schools. and some other countries have already done this. quite a few countries have already done this, and we just want make sure it's want to make sure that it's consistent clear consistent and we make it clear and empower head teachers consistent and we make it clear an
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case as unarguable. the widow of russian dissident alexei navalny has alleged the authorities are deliberately withholding her husband's body until traces of the nerve agent novichok disappear from his system in a message posted to social media, yulia navalnaya vowed to continue her husband's work, saying that she wanted to live in a free russia. she also said the reason for her husband's death was unknown and the details of those responsible will made public. a uk cargo will be made public. a uk cargo ship in the red sea has been attacked by yemen's houthi rebels, forcing the crew on board to abandon ship. the uk's maritime authority confirmed the ship sustained catastrophic damage in the missile attack off the coast of yemen, and is now at risk of sinking. it comes as the eu prepares to launch a new mission to protect commercial shipping in the red sea, after the uk and us sent military ships to the region in december and lord cameron has arrived in the falkland islands in a high
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profile demonstration that the islands are a valued part of the british family. the historic visit , the first by a foreign visit, the first by a foreign secretary in 30 years, comes amid renewed argentine calls for negotiations on the island's future. lord cameron says the sovereignty of the british falkland islands is non—negotiable , which he says is non—negotiable, which he says is in line with the islanders desire to remain british for the latest news stories, do sign up for gb news alerts. scan the qr code on your phone or go to gb news. common alerts . news. common alerts. >> thank you, polly . now we >> thank you, polly. now we start with yet another labour party u—turn and this time, sir keir starmer has called for what he described as a ceasefire that lasts in gaza. so keir made the comment in a speech at scottish labour's conference on wednesday . there will be an snp led vote on an immediate cessation of fighting , which will put labour fighting, which will put labour mps views on gaza under the
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microscope once again . labour's microscope once again. labour's wes streeting spoke to gb news earlier today and set out the party's position. >> want to see an end to this bloody conflict? we're desperately concerned and appalled by the disproportionate number of civilian casualties. let's not forget that hamas are still holding innocent israelis hostage . they must be released . hostage. they must be released. and we've got now the real prospect of palestinian palestinians being pushed into the desert from rafah . and so the desert from rafah. and so this is a crisis that could worsen , i gather, overnight, the worsen, i gather, overnight, the israelis have said, look, we're not going to go into rafah until early march. uh, hamas have got an opportunity to release the hostages. let's hope hamas do that, because however critical we are of israel for going beyond reasonable self—defence and looking at the disproportionate loss of innocent lives. let's not forget that on the 6th of october last yean that on the 6th of october last year, there was a ceasefire between israel and hamas, and on the 7th of october, hamas chose to launch this barbaric attack.
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and that's how this round of the latest chapter of the israeli—palestinian conflict unfolded . but ultimately, we're unfolded. but ultimately, we're not going to see a violent end to this conflict. we only can see an end to this conflict through a peaceful, diplomatic two state solution. and that's what labour will always push for. >> well, once again, labour's palestine problem has bubbled to the surface to haunt them. and to discuss that, i'm joined by our political correspondent olivia in the studio in olivia utley in the studio in westminster, olivia , welcome westminster, olivia, welcome back the show. always back to the show. always a pleasure. here we go again. there in glasgow. they seem to care more about gaza. what's going on? >> well, keir starmer has found himself in a bit an awkward himself in a bit of an awkward situation in, uh, in november last year, there was a motion debated in the house of commons over whether the house of commons wanted to see a ceasefire in the labour ceasefire in gaza. the labour frontbench line at the time was no. israel has a right to defend itself. it was completely in line the conservative line with the conservative government a number of backbench mps . and the on the labour
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mps. and the on the labour benches rebelled and voted for a ceasefire in gaza, including ten shadow ministers who had to resign their positions on the front since then, front bench. since then, obviously has obviously the fighting has got bloodier and israel's actions have. bloodier and israel's actions have . have got more robust, have. have got more robust, shall we say, and we are possibly on the verge of this, uh , attack in in rafah . so there uh, attack in in rafah. so there are those of keir starmer's allies who say that actually all that's happening now is that keir starmer's views are changing as the facts change, as the worse , he is the situation gets worse, he is being more robust about israel and would to see and he would like to see a cessation in the fighting. and there are those who that there are those who say that actually only talking actually he's only talking about this expediency. this for political expediency. what he is worried about is he cannot afford at the moment to lose another whole tranche of frontbenchers. is worried frontbenchers. he is worried that labour scotland, for example, are going to vote in favour of that ceasefire and a number of his own backbench peers really getting peers could start really getting the heat onto him. if he votes it, against ceasefire. it, votes against a ceasefire. the i'm reading this is that the way i'm reading this is that keir starmer is looking for some sort of ladder to climb down on
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his robust views in defence his very robust views in defence of israel. he wants to get away from that position without making that making it too obvious that that's done . that's what he's done. >> a of people, olivia, are >> a lot of people, olivia, are saying we're getting and saying we're getting loads and loads this . this saying we're getting loads and loads keir this . this saying we're getting loads and loads keir starmer this . this saying we're getting loads and loads keir starmer bowingy . this saying we're getting loads and loads keir starmer bowing to this is sir keir starmer bowing to the mob. there's been a backlash from the muslim vote from the student vote, the pro—palestinian marchers. we've seen rachel reeves , we've seen seen rachel reeves, we've seen angela rayner, we've seen starmer himself, keir starmer himself, sir keir starmer himself, sir keir starmer being harassed starmer himself being harassed by protesters . at street level. by protesters. at street level. is this caving to in the mob? >> well, that is certainly one way of looking at it. >> this has been, i would say, the biggest challenge of keir starmer's premiership ukip deaung starmer's premiership ukip dealing with this situation because obviously his very robust pro—israel position is very much at odds with big swathes of the party voters , swathes of the party voters, members and in some cases , his members and in some cases, his own frontbenchers. this is a huge challenge for him and you could argue that in, uh, diluting his line, his pro—israel line , he is just pro—israel line, he is just bowing to the mob. i mean, that
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said, you could also argue that actually even the uk government's line on israel has softened up a little bit. i mean , the yes, we are the uk government is still saying that israel has a right to defend itself, but the line is a little bit gentler as the whole bit softer, gentler as the whole of the west increasingly worried about israel's counter—attack and the massive humanitarian destruction in gaza . so there destruction in gaza. so there are certainly two ways of looking at it, and it'll be really interesting to see how it plays out in the polls and of course, very importantly, how it plays out the rochdale plays out in the rochdale by—election >> exactly. stuff. and >> exactly. great stuff. and also talk now to also let's talk now to conservative mp for ruislip , conservative mp for ruislip, northwood and pinner, david simmons . david, welcome to the simmons. david, welcome to the show . so initially sir keir show. so initially sir keir starmer backed israel's right to defend itself. and now many are saying he's caved in to the mob and is asking for a ceasefire . and is asking for a ceasefire. what's your take on this, david? >> well, this is a complex debate, but the government's been absolutely right to call for a sustainable ceasefire, right the start. that for a sustainable ceasefire, right a the start. that for a sustainable ceasefire, right a ceasefiret. that for a sustainable ceasefire, right a ceasefire that that for a sustainable ceasefire, right a ceasefire that botht means a ceasefire that both
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sides that they will sides promise that they will adhere to. and we've all adhere to. and i think we've all watched on the news the terrible things are happening. things that are happening. we've seen life. seen the loss of civilian life. we the of the british we back the calls of the british government they're talking we back the calls of the british goisrael ent they're talking we back the calls of the british goisrael and they're talking we back the calls of the british goisrael and saying,ey're talking we back the calls of the british goisrael and saying,ey'reneed ng to israel and saying, you need to israel and saying, you need to be very, very careful the to be very, very careful in the way the way you proceed with the security simply way you proceed with the sec|acceptable simply way you proceed with the sec|acceptable see simply way you proceed with the sec|acceptable see largely not acceptable to see large numbers people losing their numbers of people losing their lives entirely innocent lives who are entirely innocent civilians. respect the civilians. but we respect the fact that this is an allied country come under severe country that's come under severe attack, they've shown good attack, and they've shown good evidence stage their evidence at each stage of their operation that they were justified, example, justified, for example, in targeting specific locations justified, for example, in targeting hamas c locations justified, for example, in targetinghamas terrorist ns justified, for example, in targetinghamas terrorist activity because hamas terrorist activity was spotted and they were correct. put that forward . so we correct. put that forward. so we need make sure that we have need to make sure that we have a sustainable which sustainable ceasefire, which means hostages are returned means the hostages are returned safely and that both sides safely home and that both sides can accept that will then can accept that there will then be to a more be a way forward to a more stable government looking after gaza and david starkey starmer and david lammy were at the munich security conference over the weekend, and what came out of that is another wobble that gets people thinking, is there going to be another u—turn? >> saying that they >> this time saying that they would like a closer uk eu
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security cooperation act? many people now thinking, david, this feels it's setting off those tremors that the labour party wants closer alignment to brussels . this is brexit through brussels. this is brexit through the back door . the back door. >> well, labour have always wanted closer alignment to brussels , but what is helpful brussels, but what is helpful about this debate is it's highlighted in respect, particularly of ukraine, the need for countries across europe to work together to ensure that ukrainian armed forces are getting the equipment that they need. getting the equipment that they need . and we know that the need. and we know that the united congress and the united states congress and the senate have had some difficulty passing aid packages to passing recent aid packages to make sure, for example, that ammunition provided. we ammunition is being provided. we also know that of the also know that most of the european forces have european armed forces have access of that access to stocks of that ammunition , can ammunition, which can be produced common size . produced of a common size. that's what's needed on the battlefield in ukraine. if battlefield in ukraine. so if there is a that we can work there is a way that we can work together with our allies who are across europe, all across europe, who are all committed to doing this, to support in defeating support ukraine in defeating vladimir clearly vladimir putin, then clearly we should that, that should do that, but that shouldn't expense shouldn't be at the expense of our example,
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shouldn't be at the expense of our aukus example, shouldn't be at the expense of our aukus relationship .ample, shouldn't be at the expense of our aukus relationship with.e, shouldn't be at the expense of our aukus relationship with the the aukus relationship with the united states and australia. that's about recognising our global role . global role. >> and david, another thing that sets eyebrows jumping is the labour roads. minister saying at the weekend again that they will be prepared to reintroduce that ban on petrol and diesel cars. rishi sunak pushed that back five years and the conservative party enjoyed a rare bump in the polls. four percentage points up because people are telling us quite clearly they're getting a bit sick of net zero, which means they've got to scrap their cars, get rid of their boilers and be poorer, colder and hungnen and be poorer, colder and hungrier. so now the labour party want to change that . are party want to change that. are you concerned that a labour government would be basically pushing us towards net zero? so it's a real worry for my constituents in outer london. >> well, we don't have access to the kind of public transport that's available . and that's available. and unfortunately i think the labour party are falling into the trap of suits inner city of doing what suits inner city areas, forgetting what matters for suburbs and for the vast
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for the suburbs and for the vast majority of the uk, which is rural we to sure that rural. we need to make sure that people got access to people have got access to affordable private transport. it people have got access to affundamentalite transport. it people have got access to affundamentalite people's. it is fundamental to people's quality life. it's essential quality of life. it's essential to able to access public to be able to access public services like schools , to make services like schools, to make sure that people get to hospital . seeing of that . if we're seeing all of that close and we simply know close down and we simply know that electric vehicles at the moment, have that electric vehicles at the morrange, have have that electric vehicles at the morrange, have the have the range, don't have the charging infrastructure, but are just expensive the vast just too expensive for the vast majority in uk at majority of people in the uk at the moment. that's the moment. that that's unrealistic. make unrealistic. we need to make sure a to sure that we've got a plan to achieve net a way that achieve net zero in a way that respects what our constituents want , and respects what our constituents want, and that respects what our constituents want , and that respects the fact want, and that respects the fact that we can't rush to do that at huge cost taxpayers. huge cost to taxpayers. >> david, a lot of people will be saying yes, hurrah for this. let's wade back. let's row back on net zero targets. but after all, david, it was your government. introduce them. bofis government. introduce them. boris johnson some of the boris johnson had some of the most ambitious net zero targets in entire western world. in the entire western world. nobody knew what they would cost at the time. they agree with the principle, with the concept . but principle, with the concept. but when down to the cost, when it comes down to the cost, nobody to vote
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nobody ever got a chance to vote on how about the on this. how about the conservative party being conservative on this and encouraging energy, self dependency through things like shale north sea gas and our own domestic energy produce and allowing people the free choice of what they want to drive. well then, rather than whipping them towards electric vehicles , as towards electric vehicles, as i agree with you entirely, in this week we're going to see the reintroduce here in parliament of new licensing for north sea oil and gas, because one of the things that's happened since bofis things that's happened since boris johnson and ipsis targets has massive global has been the massive global impact on energy of russias illegal of ukraine. illegal invasion of ukraine. >> and we need to respect the fact that as a government, when the when the world changes, when the facts are engaging with facts that you are engaging with change, you need to change policy that. need change, you need to change po be' that. need change, you need to change po be energy that. need change, you need to change po be energy independent.ieed change, you need to change po be energy independent. we to be energy independent. we need to be able to support our allies and neighbours with allies and our neighbours with energy when those come energy supplies when those come under we need to under threat, and we need to make things like oil under threat, and we need to makgas things like oil under threat, and we need to makgas , things like oil under threat, and we need to makgas , which things like oil under threat, and we need to makgas , which are gs like oil under threat, and we need to makgas , which are not ke oil under threat, and we need to makgas , which are not justil under threat, and we need to makgas , which are not just used and gas, which are not just used for are essential for for energy but are essential for manufacturing all kinds of goods on depends, on which our economy depends, continue to be available. and that's part of respecting the
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fact environmental fact that our environmental journey, the best journey, the uk being the best performing reducing performing country at reducing carbon emissions per capita in the 620 , carbon emissions per capita in the g20 , a carbon emissions per capita in the 620 , a 50% carbon emissions per capita in the g20 , a 50% reduction since the 620, a 50% reduction since the 620, a 50% reduction since the 1990 baseline. an amazing achievement at that. we don't do that at the expense of the quality of life of our people. >> okay, we'll have to leave it there. thank you very for there. thank you very much for joining simmonds , mp joining us. david simmonds, mp for northwood and for ruislip, northwood and pinner for the conservative party. thank you very much. now at 5:00, i'll be joined in the studio by labour mp graham stringer. i'll ask him if we can trust his party. let's see what he has to say on that. and there's lots of content on our website, gbnews.com. and you've helped to make it the fastest growing national news website in the country. so you very the country. so thank you very much . now time for the much. now it's time for the great british giveaway. and you really could be our next winner with £18,000 pounds in cold hard cash up for grabs. do you fancy a chance of winning that? well here's all the details that you need to enter the final week to see how you could be the winner
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house of commons where the business secretary, kemi badenoch, is making a statement about the post office scandal . about the post office scandal. >> all of this merely confirms in my mind that i made the correct decision in dismissing him. second, mr staunton claimed, i told him that someone's got to take the rap for the horizon scandal, and that was the reason for his dismissal. that was not the reason at all. i dismissed him because there were serious concerns about his behaviour as chair in including those raised from other directors on the board. my department found significant governance issues , significant governance issues, for example, with the recruitment of a new senior independent director to the post office board, a public appointment process was underway, but mr staunton apparently wanted to bypass it, appointing someone from within the existing board without due process . he failed to properly process. he failed to properly consult the post office board on the proposal . he failed to hold the proposal. he failed to hold the proposal. he failed to hold the required nominations committee. most importantly, he failed to consult the government
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as a shareholder, which the company was required to do . i company was required to do. i know that honourable members will agree with me that such a cavalier approach to governance was thing we needed in was the last thing we needed in the post office, given its historic i should also historic failings. i should also inform the house that while he was in post, a formal investigation was launched into allegations made regarding mr staunton's conduct. this included serious matters such as bullying . concerns were brought bullying. concerns were brought to my department's attention about mr staunton's willingness to cooperate with that investigation . so it is right investigation. so it is right that the british public know the facts behind this case, and what was said in the phone call were i dismissed mr staunton, officials from my department were on the line. it . was were on the line. it. was minuted and a readout was sent after it took place. today, i am depositing a copy of that readout in both libraries of the house. so the honourable members and see the and the public can see the truth. personal . and the public can see the truth. personal. information relating to other post office employees in those minutes have been redacted . and for all been redacted. and it is for all of reasons that an interim
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of these reasons that an interim chair be appointed shortly . chair will be appointed shortly. and i of course, update and i will, of course, update the we have further the house when we have further details. mr speaker, mr details. finally mr speaker, mr staunton claims that when he was first appointed as chair of the post he was told by a post office, he was told by a senior servant to stall on senior civil servant to stall on paying senior civil servant to stall on paying compensation . there is no paying compensation. there is no evidence what so ever that this is true . in fact, on becoming is true. in fact, on becoming post office chair, mr staunton received a letter from the bays permanent secretary, sarah mumby , on the 9th of december, 2022. it . him to his role, it welcomed. him to his role, making it crystal clear that successfully reaching settlements with victims of the post should be post office scandal should be one highest priorities . one of his highest priorities. that letter is in the public domain . the words are there in domain. the words are there in black . and white, and copies of black. and white, and copies of the correspondence will be placed in the libraries of both houses. the reality is that my department done everything department has done everything it compensation it can to speed up compensation payments for victims. we've already totalling already made payments totalling £160 three £160 million across all three compensation . that compensation schemes. that includes announcement last includes our announcement last autumn. optional £600,000
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autumn. of the optional £600,000 fixed sum award for those who had wrongly wrongfully had been wrongly wrongfully convicted , it's the strongest convicted, it's the strongest refutation , mr speaker, of those refutation, mr speaker, of those in this house who would claim that we only acted after the itv drama mr. bates the post drama mr. bates versus the post office. british people should know that a dedicated team of ministers and civil servants have been working around the clock for many months to hasten the of justice and bring the pursuit of justice and bring swift, fair redress to all those affected . to that end, i am affected. to that end, i am pleased that all 2417 postmasters who claimed through the original horizon shortfall scheme have now had offers of compensation and the post office is dealing promptly with late applications in cases where the initial offer has not been accepted. department has also accepted. my department has also established the horizon compensation unit ensure that compensation unit to ensure that money to the right people money gets to the right people without a moment's delay, and we announced this autumn an additional £150 million to the post office, specifically to help meet costs of help them meet the costs of participating post office participating in the post office horizon and deliver horizon inquiry and deliver compensation to postmasters. in all we've committed, around £1
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billion to ensure wronged postmasters can be fully and fairly compensated , and we are fairly compensated, and we are taking on precedented steps with the forthcoming legislation to quash convictions of postmasters affected by the horizon scandal in short, mr speaker, we are putting our money where our mouth is and our shoulders to the wheel in ensuring that justice it is not fair justice is done. it is not fair on victims of this scandal, on the victims of this scandal, which already ruined so many which has already ruined so many lives livelihoods to claim, lives and livelihoods to claim, as mr thornton has done, that this is being dragged out a second longer than it ought to be for henry staunton to suggest otherwise , whatever personal otherwise, for whatever personal motives a disgrace, and motives is a disgrace, and it risks damaging confidence in the compensation schemes which ministers and civil servants are working so hard to deliver. i would hope that most people reading interview reading the interview in yesterday's would yesterday's sunday times would see it for what it was a blatant attempt to seek revenge following dismissal. mr speaker, i must say that i regret the way in which these events have unfolded . i did everything we unfolded. i did everything we did everything we could to manage this dismissal in a
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dignified way for mr staunton and others. however, i will not hesitate to defend myself and more importantly, my officials who cannot respond directly to these baseless attacks right now. the post office's number one priority must be delivering compensation to postmasters who have not already been compensated . those that fell compensated. those that fell victim to a faulty. it system they implemented, and which they turned a blind eye to when brave whistleblowers like alan bates sounded the alarm, we that sounded the alarm, we said that the government would leave no stone unturned uncovering the stone unturned in uncovering the truth horizon. truth behind the horizon. scandal pursuing justice scandal in pursuing justice for the families . the victims and their families. we delivering on that we are delivering on that promise looking for any promise while looking for any further steps we can further possible steps we can take. so and final take. so full and final settlement can be reached settlement claims can be reached as quickly as possible. it is right that we reflect, too, on the cultural practices at the post office, which allowed the honzon post office, which allowed the horizon scandal to happen in the first place. a culture which let those in the highest ranks of the organisation arbitrarily dismiss real concerns dismiss the very real concerns of subpostmasters , who are of the subpostmasters, who are the lifeblood of their business
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and pillars of the local community. while the post office may to stand by its may have failed to stand by its postmasters in the past, we are ensuring they everything ensuring that they do everything they champion them today , they can to champion them today, fostering environment that fostering an environment that respects their employees and respects their employees and respects customers . that respects their customers. that is we will rebuild trust and is how we will rebuild trust and ensure that the british public can have confidence in our post office now and in the future , office now and in the future, and i commend statement to and i commend this statement to the house. >> the secretary of state, jonathan reynolds, thank you, mr speaken >>i speaken >> i firmly agree that the revelations in the sunday times at the weekend could not be more serious in particular, the claim that the post office was instructed to deliberately go slow on compensation payments to subpostmasters in order to push the financial liability into the next parliament. >> if true , would be a further >> if true, would be a further outrageous insult to a scandal that has already rocked faith in the fairness of the british state. it cannot be allowed to stand if it is the case and if it is not, it must be shown to be false in no uncertain terms .
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be false in no uncertain terms. yet we do now have two completely contrasting accounts, one from the former chair of the post office and one from the secretary of state and only one of these accounts can be the truth, and i hope we are all in agreement that parliament is the correct place for these matters to be raised and clarified, because what we need now is transparency and scrutiny. so can i ask the secretary of state, will she categorically state that the post office was at no point told to delay compensation payments by either an official or a minister from any government department at, and at no point was it alluded to, that a delay would be of benefit to the treasury . will benefit to the treasury. will there now be a cabinet office investigation to ensure that no such instruction or inference was given at any point? crucially she is the £1 billion figure of compensation which the secretary of state quite helpfully just repeated. already allocated and sat in the department of business and trade's accounts, ready to be paid . if it is trade's accounts, ready to be
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paid. if it is not, will we see compensation payments itemised specifically in the upcoming budget? the secretary of state will also understand that, following the story at the weekend, victims of other scandals , especially scandals, especially contaminated blood , now feel contaminated blood, now feel that they need to ask the question as to whether they have been the victims of deliberate inaction. can the government provide assurances that no such obstruction has been placed on any payments that kind ? and any payments of that kind? and if so, what is the delay with some these cases ? and in the some of these cases? and in the full interests of transparency, and to fully ascertain the veracity of any allegations for subpostmasters and the general public, will she publish all relevant correspondence in minutes of meetings between the department, the treasury and uk? 6i department, the treasury and uk? gi and the post office? during this time? and finally , when can this time? and finally, when can we expect the legislation on exonerations that was promised by the prime minister i cannot stress enough how the last thing that was needed in this scandal was any further allegations of
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cover ups or obfuscation at the very top of government. people's faith in government already damaged from scandals like hillsborough and bloody sunday and windrush , is hanging by a and windrush, is hanging by a thread . and this miscarriage of thread. and this miscarriage of justice has shown the devastation that can occur when institutions are allowed to operate without oversight or are shrouded by secrecy . so we shrouded by secrecy. so we should all agree that that secrecy must end and the full sunlight of public scrutiny brought to bear. and if everything the secretary of state has us today is state has told us today is correct, surely there will be no objection happening in full. >> thank you, mr speaker, and i would like to very much welcome the tone that the shadow frontbench spokesman has taken on this. i know that there are often, uh, tendencies for political point scoring, but i think we both agree that this is very much about and we heard there can kemi badenoch talking about her decision to sack henry staunton as the chairman of the post office later this hour. >> i'll talk to one of the
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hundreds of people who were wrongly convicted in that post office scandal . janet skinner, office scandal. janet skinner, a former post office mistress , former post office mistress, will join us on the show. but um, very, very forthright words there from kemi badenoch saying, mr staunton, face failed. i am depositing a copy of that communication because he intimated that miss badenoch was trying to push this away into the next government. the compensation scheme . kemi compensation scheme. kemi badenoch making very clear that's not the case. she's releasing the transcription of that communication. a telephone conversation. um, it was crystal clear, she said she made it crystal clear to staunton that a financial settlement should be a priority for the post office. and already £163 million in payments have been made. and she pointed out a dedicated team of ministers have been working for many, many months on the post office scandal. she says before the itv drama , 1473 offers have
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the itv drama, 1473 offers have already been made. we'll have much more on that story, of course, throughout the show , so course, throughout the show, so there's lots more still to come between now and 5:00 later this houn between now and 5:00 later this hour. i'll have a big update on the luxury flats in farnborough that were going to be handed over to migrants. in fact, that's happening as we speak. i'll have live information from the scene, but first, there's your latest news headlines with polly middlehurst . polly middlehurst. >> martin. thank you. well, the other top stories this afternoon from the gb newsroom. a man who piloted a people smuggling small boat across the english channel has been found guilty of manslaughter. those watching on television will able to see television will be able to see exclusive footage obtained by gb news of that rescue operation in 2022. four migrants had drowned dunng 2022. four migrants had drowned during the crossing after the boat had run into difficulty . boat had run into difficulty. ibrahim abbas, who's a senegalese migrant, claimed he'd sailed before, which meant he was allowed to make the journey
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free of charge while others paid thousands. the judge said the boat was navigated using only mobile phones and as a result of his actions, four people died . a his actions, four people died. a man has appeared in court after vietnamese migrants were found in the back of a freezer lorry at ferry port. 42 year at newhaven ferry port. 42 year old anas al mustafa, who lives in swansea , has been accused of in swansea, has been accused of assisting unlawful entry into the uk after seven migrants broke through a wall and escaped from the van he was driving . from the van he was driving. prosecutors told the court their exit was helped by people from the outside , and four of the the outside, and four of the seven migrants remain in hospital , seven migrants remain in hospital, and a major crime investigation is still underway investigation is still underway in bristol today after three young children were found dead in their home. officers responded to a welfare call and found the little boy, aged seven. 33 year old girl and a ten month old baby boy. a 42 year old woman was arrested at the scene. she was taken to hospital and remains in custody . hospital and remains in custody. and downing street says that the individuals responsible for
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russia dissident alexei navalny's death must be held to account . mps are discussing what account. mps are discussing what action britain could take in response to putin critic's death shadow foreign secretary david lammy signalled that if labour were to win the next election, he'd crack down on dirty money. that he said flows from moscow into london and new guidance has been issued for teachers in england aimed at standardising the rules governing the use of smartphones in schools . as smartphones in schools. as concerns grow over the impact of social media on young people. but a union rep resenting headteachers says the guidelines aren't needed because robust rules already exist . those are rules already exist. those are your latest news stories for background on more of those, you could sign up for free gb news alerts. scan the qr code on your screen right now, or go to gb news. com slash alerts . news. com slash alerts. >> thank you polly. now should
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lose radio. >> welcome back. it's 437. you're watching or listening to martin daubney on gb news. now to a story that exposes a huge abuse of our immigration system. a quarter a foreign care workers are working illegally in other industries . are working illegally in other industries. it was are working illegally in other industries . it was revealed by industries. it was revealed by david neal , industries. it was revealed by david neal, who's the chief inspector of borders and immigration . incredibly, the immigration. incredibly, the home office has failed to pubush home office has failed to publish 313 separate reports of neaps publish 313 separate reports of neal's work in the last year. well, i'm joined now by immigration barrister paul turner. paul, welcome to the show. an astonishing revelation that the gentleman in control,
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in charge of monitoring this information , is putting that information, is putting that information, is putting that information forward to the home office. and yet none of these reports are being put out. and this one, which seems to have leaked out somehow shows that 25% of those coming into the uk from abroad on care worker visas either never work in the industry or as soon as they're industry or as soon as they're in the country, move to other sectors. this is an outrageous abuse of our immigration system, isn't it ? isn't it? >> i completely agree, it is an outrageous abuse and sadly, i think it's been going on for quite a while. uh, and uh, the chief inspector, david neal, has done a sterling job of, uh, exposing the shortcomings in the immigration system . um, i think immigration system. um, i think the problem it could be breaks down into about two. the headune down into about two. the headline point would be that david neal, um , is has not had david neal, um, is has not had his contract . normally it's a his contract. normally it's a 2 or 3 year tum. uh, it's been announced that his contract is going to end in march 2024. now
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he's the person that's preparing these reports . he does he's the person that's preparing these reports. he does his he's the person that's preparing these reports . he does his job, these reports. he does his job, prepares them , and then the prepares them, and then the government sits on them , which government sits on them, which is why this has come out sideways . the second reason that sideways. the second reason that there's such an abuse is would be due to the government not funding the immigration system properly. it is clear that, um, more needs to be done . there are more needs to be done. there are 75,070 8000 uh, employers that have sponsor licenses . there have sponsor licenses. there are, and this will probably shock you to less than 50 enforcement officers. that's one enforcement officers. that's one enforcement officers. that's one enforcement officer for 1600 employers. is it any wonder that criminals haven't just jumped on to this system? they can see the, uh, that it's easy to abuse this. and the real tragedy there, the real tragedy is that , there, the real tragedy is that, um, migrants themselves from places that india and other countries are paying . between countries are paying. between 3000 and £17,000 to get a visa that they for a job. then they
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arrive in the united kingdom and there is no job. um yeah. >> paul, i don't think anything shocks any of us any more about our immigration system. it seems completely unfit for purpose . completely unfit for purpose. and some of the information coming out in this report , paul, coming out in this report, paul, is shameful . coming out in this report, paul, is shameful. for is utterly shameful. for example, the home office had issued 275 visas to a care home that did not exist yet, and 1234 visas to a company that stated it only had four more staff on its ability to license. so they're allowed for the claim for 1234. paul all of this will simply make us believe. and don't forget, it's not just those who apply for visas , but those who apply for visas, but they're allowed to bring their dependents into the country as well. this is starting to fail, paul. well. this is starting to fail, paul . like well. this is starting to fail, paul. like nothing more than glorified racketeering . they're glorified racketeering. they're getting into the country without any recompense, without any liability , and it appears liability, and it appears without any rights for the
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pubuc without any rights for the public to call time on this . public to call time on this. >> well, i completely agree. uh, part of the problem is , and if part of the problem is, and if one looks online, you'll find quite a lot of immigration lawyers advertising just how easy and quickly they can get a company , a sponsor license. so company, a sponsor license. so the whole system is geared up and the government makes money on issuing sponsor licenses. but as we've seen, doesn't police them. so everybody wins. apart from the british public. um, where the british public suffers as a result of this , the as a result of this, the migrants suffer when they turn up and they find that there's no job they're forced to work up and they find that there's no job £4 they're forced to work up and they find that there's no job £4 an y're forced to work up and they find that there's no job £4 an hour,)rced to work up and they find that there's no job £4 an hour, orzd to work up and they find that there's no job £4 an hour, or they're)rk for £4 an hour, or they're living in, uh, the of a hut living in, uh, the back of a hut in the back of wales, which happened recently so this happened recently. so this this comes down, i mean, it is sums it sums it up, which is the government in this case has shot the the messenger is the messenger. the messenger is david neal. he continues to bnng david neal. he continues to bring the messages. first of all, them or refuse to all, they burn them or refuse to release and then when he release them. and then when he doesn't producing the doesn't stop producing the reports, they decide to sack him. how are going to know if him. how are we going to know if he's doing his job? just how
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he's not doing his job? just how badly performing ? badly they're performing? >> okay, paul turner, sobering words. immigration barrister. thanks for joining words. immigration barrister. thanks forjoining us. 13 reports have gone and published. i think it's in the public interest to get every single one of them out there. we need all this information at our fingertips. why is this information being suppressed? the answer appears to be because it doesn't fit the narrative we demand. i believe this should be published now a just stop oil protester um, cressida gethin has been found guilty of causing pubuc has been found guilty of causing public nuisance after climbing onto a gantry over the m25 and causing huge traffic disruption, the cambridge university students delayed nearly 4000 plane passengers during one of the summer's hottest days last year. the summer's hottest days last year . well, theo chikomba is at year. well, theo chikomba is at isleworth crown court . theo, you isleworth crown court. theo, you were there for the hearing and i believe you spoke to young cressida afterwards. what's the latest ? latest? >> yes, well, in the last hour or so, just before she left , we
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or so, just before she left, we did speak to her, asking her about her experience here at the court in the last week or so, a trial which lasted just over week. >> but today she was found guilty of causing a public nuisance. >> but it was in that day , in >> but it was in that day, in july 2022, that she was on a gantry on the m25, causing traffic for several hours. hundreds of cars were caught up in that . and of course, as you in that. and of course, as you may be able to hear, we are near a heathrow airport and many passengers who are looking to go there had their flights cancelled and some of them, uh, ended up being caught up in delays as a result. >> but we spoke to her and asked her whether she regrets what she did on that day. and this is what she say. i i felt i what she had to say. i i felt i needed a protest in a way that would break through the media narrative of break through and get the message heard . get the message heard. >> and, um, that , you know, 40 >> and, um, that, you know, 40 degrees in the uk is extraordinary. it came years
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before anyone thought it would. and that signals a huge amount of suffering for all of us, including the people on that motorway. um so i know it might sound kind of counterintuitive, but i took action for them as much as anyone else . as you much as anyone else. as you know, i felt that moment where people actually felt the 40 degree heat and felt for a moment. this is what climate breakdown , you know, this is breakdown, you know, this is just the tip of the iceberg . i just the tip of the iceberg. i felt that moment had to be seized. um to expose what to expose the injustice of what the government is doing, which which is, you know , a ignoring, is, you know, a ignoring, ignonng is, you know, a ignoring, ignoring the fact that their policies are are already killing people globally and will continue to make things worse and worse and worse . well, when and worse and worse. well, when it comes to the government's green policy, they would defend themselves in that area . themselves in that area. >> but during this trial here in
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west london, we heard from prosecutor neil griffin, who told the court that gethin refused to come down despite police request to do so and warnings that she is causing disruption . disruption. >> but she says she has the right to protest and do that action, which she took on that week. but in terms of this , this week. but in terms of this, this case, it can this offence, she has she can end up having a custodial sentence of up to ten years and she is going to be sentenced on the 3rd of may. >> okay. theo chikomba , thank >> okay. theo chikomba, thank you for that. update. live from isleworth crown court. thanks for joining us. now, teachers forjoining us. now, teachers could soon be searching pupils to see if they got phones on them after the government moved ahead with a pledge to ban mobile phones in schools. is that a good idea? that's coming next. i'm martin daubney on gb news britain's news channel .
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radio. welcome back. >> it's 449. you're watching or listening to martin daubney on 6b listening to martin daubney on gb news. now at 5:00, i'll talk about the problems . sir keir about the problems. sir keir starmer is once again facing over gaza . but before that, over gaza. but before that, teachers could soon be surging pupils to see if they've got phones on them. after the government moved ahead with a pledge to ban mobile phones in schools, the new guidance has been hailed as a signal step by education secretary gillian keegan . but the head of the keegan. but the head of the teachers union, the association of school and college leaders , of school and college leaders, says it's a non policy for a non problem. so what's the truth. well let's speak now to gronya halligan who's a journalist at teacher tap. thanks for joining us. gronya on the show. so the guidance is there, but it's not mandatory. schools don't need to follow it. and a lot of people are saying, actually it's pretty much before . what's much the same as before. what's the truth? so we asked our
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teachers last month about what the rules were for using mobile phonesin the rules were for using mobile phones in their schools, and we can clearly . can see that clearly. >> the vast majority of schools have mobile phones banned throughout . in throughout the school day. in primary schools, seen primary schools, we've seen a massive increase in the number of asking for of primary schools asking for phones to handed in at the phones to be handed in at the beginning of the day, which tallies with the data that tallies up with the data that we're seeing that young , younger we're seeing that young, younger children are being given mobile phones. >> schools working with >> so schools are working with parents so that children have mobile phones them. mobile phones on them. but they're soon as mobile phones on them. but they'get soon as mobile phones on them. but they'get to soon as mobile phones on them. but they'get to school soon as mobile phones on them. but they'get to school andon as mobile phones on them. but they'get to school and areas mobile phones on them. but they'get to school and are given they get to school and are given it back the of the day. it back at the end of the day. so only a tiny number of so there's only a tiny number of schools mobile phones are schools where mobile phones are actually used actually allowed to be used throughout day . and throughout the school day. and like i said, the majority of schools already have things in their behaviour policies about being search, about being able to search, about being able to search, about being and being able to confiscate and mobile phones. the rules are already there. interestingly what we are seeing though, is even though the rules are there, mobile phones are still interrupting learning in schools and we asked our teachers about whether or not their lessons have been stopped that day to
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collect a phone in or to take a the phone's been taken out in your seeing your lesson and we're seeing that 1 in 5 teachers are saying , that 1 in 5 teachers are saying, yes, mobile phones have come out in a lesson today , and 1 in 20 in a lesson today, and 1 in 20 said that their most recent lesson had been disrupted by a student using their phone lesson had been disrupted by a student permission phone lesson had been disrupted by a student permission .yhone lesson had been disrupted by a student permission . so 1e lesson had been disrupted by a student permission . so we can without permission. so we can see it's not so much the policies the schools have got , policies the schools have got, the policies it's being able to enforce them. is the actual problem. >> and gronya is there any point to having mobile phones in schools at all? i mean, they don't seem to do any good. surely should just be surely they should just be handedin surely they should just be handed in at the start of the day them back at day and just get them back at the it? the end of it? >> school leaders that i've spoken have been really spoken to have been really positive they've spoken to have been really positiyto they've spoken to have been really positiyto ban they've spoken to have been really positiyto ban them they've spoken to have been really positiyto ban them completelyve spoken to have been really positiyto ban them completely ,a taken to ban them completely, andifs taken to ban them completely, and it's not just behaviour lessons. they say it improves , lessons. they say it improves, it also improves behaviour at lunchtime. students are more . lunchtime. students are more. social they see better mixing between groups of students . between groups of students. overall, the experience at school is much, far, far more positive. having not the positive. having not had the phones there , you've got to phones there, you've got to remember that have remember that phones have the ability to record, sound, record
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images, take photos. it's you know, this is a safeguarding risk. classrooms are much better off. are telling us off. leaders are telling us without phones in them without mobile phones in them okay, thank you very much for joining us on the show. >> gronya halligan, thank you very and now the latest very much. and now to the latest on the post office scandal . and on the post office scandal. and kemi hit out at the kemi badenoch has hit out at the former office chairman former post office chairman after he alleged he was told by senior civil servant to stall spending on compensation for subpostmasters ahead of the next general election. the government has denied the claims from henry staunton and the business secretary accused him of disgraceful misrepresentation , disgraceful misrepresentation, one of the reasons he was ousted. well, i'm joined now by janet skinner, who is a victim of the post office scandal. janet, thank you very much for joining us. so kemi badenoch strongly worded statement against mr staunton. um, she's saying that that people like yourselves are receiving the full attention of the government . do you agree ? . do you agree? >> no. um, i wish that was true. um, i don't know where she's
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getting the figures from. um but, um, you'll probably find you could ask quite a lot of people , and i'll give you the people, and i'll give you the same answer. no >> so sounds. janet, you have little faith in these new words of comfort from kemi badenoch . of comfort from kemi badenoch. >> uh , i don't actually know why >> uh, i don't actually know why they're doing for tat. i mean, they're doing for tat. i mean, the only way they're going to prove what's being said is to prove what's being said is to prove either one of them is going to prove evidence of what? of what was said or the other one's prove the one's going to prove the evidence that's the evidence. and i think that's the best really, going best way, really, of going forward open honest forward is being open and honest and saying, well, this is what was , and here's proof was said, and here's the proof of said . of what was said. >> and you think we're any >> and do you think we're any nearer to people like yourselves and thousands of other postmasters getting the justice they so richly deserve ? they so richly deserve? >> um, uh, with unfortunately, we have to wait till the end of the inquiry. um which will probably be published until next yeah probably be published until next year. anyway um, but the fight will we'll still keep fighting, but the more that the, the
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government, hyde and, um , it's government, hyde and, um, it's all comes out in freedom of information eventually. anyway so they may as well just be open and transparent about what they're actually doing. um and transparent about what they're making compensation easy for people is not something it might be something they're saying, but just because they're saying it doesn't mean to say that they're going through it. going to follow through with it. >> janet, quickly , do >> and janet, very quickly, do you think this is a scandal that they try brush they would just try and brush away ignore ? away and ignore? >> i think this is a scandal that wanted to push and ignore, but unfortunately, though, we've got like a lot of people behind us now and a lot of people have understanding of what we've had to endure for , um, two decades. to endure for, um, two decades. so it's not something they're going to be able to brush under the carpet. i think all you're seeing now is a scandal that's creating a scandal, that's creating a scandal, that's creating . afraid. creating. afraid. >> we have to leave it there, janet. i'm afraid. thank you very much for joining janet. i'm afraid. thank you very much forjoining us on the very much for joining us on the show. after this. do you trust the party ? martin the labour party? i'm martin daubney news. britain's
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daubney on gb news. britain's news channel >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar , sponsors of weather on . solar, sponsors of weather on. 6b solar, sponsors of weather on. gb news. >> uh, like alex burkill here again with your latest gb news weather forecast. there are some pretty unsettled weather come pretty unsettled weather to come as through this week, but as we go through this week, but for it's largely for the time being, it's largely fine we've under fine because we've been under the influence of high pressure to south of uk , which to the south of the uk, which has our weather down. has quietened our weather down. so although we did see a bit of rain earlier on in the day through afternoon, there's through the afternoon, there's been at times been plenty of dry and at times sunny weather, cloudy, sunny weather, however cloudy, wet and windy weather spilling across as we go through across scotland as we go through the further south and the night. further south and elsewhere, staying mostly dry but thickening cloud from the west. the best chance of any clearer skies will across clearer skies will be across eastern areas here, temperatures taking bit a dip in some taking a bit of a dip in some prone spots. getting into prone rural spots. getting into low single so perhaps low single figures. so perhaps a fresher start tomorrow morning than it has been recently. otherwise through the day tomorrow, a spell of wet and
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gb news. >> good afternoon. it's 5 pm. a very happy monday and welcome to the martin daubney show on gb news broadcasting from the news broadcasting live from the heart of westminster. all across the uk. this afternoon, the war in gaza is still a major headache for sir keir starmer . headache for sir keir starmer. after initially backing israel's right to defend itself. sir keir has now called for a ceasefire . has now called for a ceasefire. that lasts on top of u—turns on brexit and net zero. i'm going to ask today can we trust the labour party ? see also a new labour party? see also a new poll has found the tory party under boris johnson would regain lost conservative voters in the next general election. is it time for the party to bring back bojo? i'll get reaction from a tory mp and i've got a major update on plans for more than 300 asylum seekers to be moved into a new block of luxury flats into a new block of luxury flats in farnborough. i'll have fresh video live and direct from the frontline and that's all coming up in your next hour.
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frontline and that's all coming up in your next hour . welcome to up in your next hour. welcome to the show. thank you for your company. it's always a pleasure to have you here. now i want to hear from you today all the usual email me usual ways. email me gbviews@gbnews.com. i've been asking the whole show , do you asking the whole show, do you trust labour party at the trust the labour party at the weekend? we appear to have three u—turns, a u—turn on gaza, a u—turns, a u—turn on gaza, a u—turn on brexit and a u—turn on plans to scrap petrol and diesel cars. bringing that forward to 2030, i'll be joined by a labour mp any minute to ask him can we trust the labour party if they get into power? but first it's your latest news headlines with polly middlehurst . polly middlehurst. >> martin, thank you and good evening to you. well, the top story here from the gb newsroom. is man who piloted is that a man who piloted a people smuggling small boat across the english channel has been found guilty of manslaughter after. if you're watching tv , you'll be able watching on tv, you'll be able
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to exclusive footage to see this exclusive footage obtained news of the obtained by gb news of the rescue operation in december 2022. for migrants drowned dunng 2022. for migrants drowned during that crossing after the boat ran into difficulty. ibrahim abbas, who's a senegalese migrant, claimed he'd sailed before, which meant he was allowed to make the journey free of charge while others paid thousands. the judge said the boat was navigated using only mobile phones and as a result of his actions for people, lost their lives . a major their lives. a major investigations underway after three young children were found deadin three young children were found dead in their home in bristol. police officers responded to a welfare call and found the bodies of a little boy, aged seven. a three year old girl and a ten month old baby boy . a 42 a ten month old baby boy. a 42 year old woman was arrested at the scene. she's been taken to hospital and is in police custody. forensic examinations are now taking place to determine just how the children died. police say a local church has now opened for people to gather and pay their respects , gather and pay their respects, while community officers will
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remain in the area over the coming days and specialist dive teams are continuing to search the river soar in leicester this evening in a search for a two year old boy who fell into the water yesterday, leicestershire police intensified their efforts this with the help of this afternoon with the help of helicopter and aerial technology offers, say rising river levels and recent heavy rainfall has resulted in extremely difficult search conditions as new government guidance was issued today for teachers in england on restricting the use of smartphones in schools . as smartphones in schools. as concerns grow over the impact of social media on young people , social media on young people, head teachers can now choose to include a ban on phones in their schools behaviour policy, with provisions for searches if necessary . but a union necessary. but a union representing head teachers says the guidelines aren't needed because these robust rules already exist at a just stop oil activist has defended the disruption caused by her demonstration in arguing that
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dramatic action is needed to get the group's point across cambridge university student chris gethin was convicted of causing a nuisance after she climbed onto the gantry over the m20 five during her trial, the court heard the protest caused the delay of almost 4000 british airways passengers , not to airways passengers, not to mention thousands of people trapped in traffic. miss gethin told 6b trapped in traffic. miss gethin told gb news she never intended any harm. >> i needed a protest in a way that would break through the media narrative, break through and get the message heard. um that, you know , 40 degrees in that, you know, 40 degrees in the uk is extraordinary. there's a massive moral dilemma involved and, um, uh , whilst i feel it and, um, uh, whilst i feel it was absolutely necessary , i was absolutely necessary, i don't want to, um, you know, disavow the fact that it will have had an effect on people and that doesn't sit easy with me. >> cressida gethin, now campaigners have lost a high
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court challenge over renewed plans to build a road tunnel near stonehenge . a proposal to near stonehenge. a proposal to build a two mile tunnel between amesbury and berwick down in wiltshire was denied by the high court in 2021 amid concerns over its impact on the environment. but when the department of transport approved the plans in july last year , a group called july last year, a group called save stonehenge world heritage site launched a challenge in the high court that claim, though , high court that claim, though, has been largely dismissed today , with mr justice has been largely dismissed today , with mrjustice holgate describing the case as simply unargued able. downing street says individuals responsible for russian dissident alexei navalny's death must be held to account . mps are discussing what account. mps are discussing what action britain could take in response to the putin critics death. the shadow foreign secretary, david lammy, has signalled that if labour were to win election, he'd win the next election, he'd cracked down on dirty money that, he said flows from moscow into london. the government has
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condemned what it calls a reckless attack by yemen's houthi rebels on a uk registered cargo ship . the attack forced cargo ship. the attack forced the crew on board the vessel to abandon it . the crew on board the vessel to abandon it. there are no the crew on board the vessel to abandon it . there are no reports abandon it. there are no reports of any casualty , but the uk's of any casualty, but the uk's maritime authority confirmed the ship had sustained and catastrophic damage in the missile attack, which happened off the coast of yemen and the ship, they say, is now at risk of sinking . it comes as the eu of sinking. it comes as the eu prepares to launch a new mission to protect commercial vessels in the red sea, after the uk and us sent military ships to the region in december. sent military ships to the region in december . and lord region in december. and lord david cameron has arrived in the falklands in a high profile demonstration that the islands are a valued part of the british family. as he said , the historic family. as he said, the historic visit by the first foreign secretary in 30 years comes amid renewed argentine calls for negotiated bans on the island's future. lord cameron says the sovereignty of the falkland islands is non—negotiable, which he says is in line with the
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islanders desire to remain british for the very latest news stories, do sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen, or go to gb news. scotsman alerts . news. scotsman alerts. >> thank you paulie. now we start with yet another labour u—turn and sir keir starmer has called for what he described as a ceasefire that lasts in gaza. sir keir made the comment in a speech at scottish labour's conference on wednesday. there will be an snp led vote on an immediate cessation of fighting, which will put labour mps views on gaza under the microscope once again . well, in the studio once again. well, in the studio now i'm joined by our political correspondent olivia utley and the labour mp for blackley and broughton, graham stringer. welcome to you both. let's start with you, olivia. so over the weekend , um, appeared to be weekend, um, appeared to be a set of three u—turns, one on the ceasefire , an immediate
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ceasefire, an immediate ceasefire, an immediate ceasefire that lasts. that's quite a change from israel has the right to defend itself. secondly, closer alignment with the european union . um, at the the european union. um, at the munich security conference fears that there'll be a rollback towards rejoining via the back doon towards rejoining via the back door. and secondly , bringing door. and secondly, bringing back the ban to get rid of petrol and diesel cars in 2030. a lot of people feeling this is a sign of the flip flopping to come under a labour government. >> well, on the question of gaza , uh, there is an argument that keir starmer actually hasn't changed position very much changed his position very much at all. he's always said that he did ceasefire eventually, did want a ceasefire eventually, as does the uk government . did want a ceasefire eventually, as does the uk government. but it does sound a little bit as though there has been a shift. now is that because facts now is that because the facts have changed and people are allowed to change their minds when the facts change, obviously the humanity in crisis in gaza has got increasingly worse and we are now possibly expecting at least that attack on rafah, which would put, uh, hundreds of thousands of lives in danger or
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is it a question of political expedience ? keir starmer is expedience? keir starmer is facing a lot of heat on this israel, gaza question he has done for months now. there are plenty of mps on his own backbenchers, plenty of labour members as well, who want a ceasefire immediately. and back in november , when there was in november, when there was a question about this in the house of commons, keir starmer managed to lose ten ministers who to lose ten shadow ministers who all chose to vote against the labour line. and with the snp, who were calling for a ceasefire, is keir starmer sort of changing his, you know, carefully playing semantic games with us here in order to try and keep everyone on side and as you say , could that be classed as say, could that be classed as a bit of a u—turn? as for this brexit, uh , reneging if you brexit, uh, reneging if you like. keir starmer has said that he would like to join an eu defence force. he hasn't really gone into too much detail about what that would entail, but it reminded me of what he said a few months ago about what he'd like to see happen with refugees in the uk. he would like to
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enter some sort of partnership whereby ii refugees who arrive here from the channel could be sent back to the eu, but in exchange the uk would have to take a quota of migrants from the eu . well, to many that the eu. well, to many that sounds quite a lot like rejoining the eu's freedom of movement plan or something very similar indeed. so i think it does feel a little bit as though keir starmer is shifting on a few of these issues here. some of these really important issues to voters, but it's a bit of a slippery character, and it can sometimes be quite hard to pin down exactly how much he's changed his mind . i think it'll changed his mind. i think it'll all play out in the weeks ahead, and what we should all keep an eye on is wednesday. there is going a vote the going to be a vote in the commons tabled by the on commons tabled by the snp on whether mps would like to now see gaza. it'll see a ceasefire in gaza. it'll be fascinating see what keir be fascinating to see what keir starmer there. starmer does there. >> and pin that >> okay, let's try and pin that down. stringer , let's down. graham stringer, let's start gaza . it seems to be start with gaza. it seems to be a perpetual thorn in the side of the labour party , almost like
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the labour party, almost like europe was for the conservatives. but there's a feeling this time, graham, that sir keir's change of position hasn't just been changed by the facts available , but the fact facts available, but the fact that there seems to be an unsavoury mob element to this. we've seen rachel reeves harassed while campaigning, we've seen angela rayner harassed while campaigning. sir keir starmer himself chased off a train in scotland . is this a train in scotland. is this change of position caving to the mob ? mob? >> i don't believe that it's a change in position. uh keir has always said he wanted a sustainable ceasefire , one sustainable ceasefire, one where, with other western democracies, north america and european democracies , uh, we put european democracies, uh, we put pressure on and work towards a long terme solution of what's going on there. there is no point, you know, nobody wants to see the slaughter that's happening in gaza. >> but netanyahu is not waiting to see what graham stringer, keir starmer, the british parliament, the british
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government say on this matter. we have to work with other people to look out for a future that gives a security to israel and gives a home a democratic home to the palestinian . and home to the palestinian. and that's been the line all the way along. it's dancing on the head of a pin, really, to say there's a change of words. i don't believe the policy has changed. >> so graham, if it's not clearly, you know, benjamin netanyahu isn't going to change his because what the red his mind because what the red cross think or the united nafions cross think or the united nations or greta thunberg or the labour party or anybody. so the president of the united states, but that's about but it's but that's about it. but if it's not that , what is it not about that, what is it about? is it about an appeasement of certain voters? because that's what a lot of people is the people are thinking. it is the language i think is changing as opposed to the political position , because there is position, because there is a view by some people that if you don't say, i want a ceasefire now, you somehow approve of the
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slaughter . slaughter. >> i've had that debate. i represent a lot of muslims. i represent a lot of muslims. i represent a lot of muslims. i represent a lot of jewish people, and i've had that debate with in my own constituency . and with in my own constituency. and the answer to it is no, i don't approve of the slaughter. israel has a right to defend itself. there has to be a long terme political solution to that . um political solution to that. um i think the other question, i mean, i, i can see where you're coming from completely on that. >> i think that there are plenty of people around starmer of people around keir starmer who actually the who feel that actually the position changed at position has barely changed at all. but martin points out, all. but as martin points out, there been a number of there have been a number of things over this weekend, of things over this weekend, one of which potential deal on which is this potential deal on security the eu as a labour security with the eu as a labour brexiteer, do you feel not specifically this issue, but a number of things over the past few months that keir starmer is sort of shying away from, from brexit? >> well , he brexit? >> well, he said the opposite regularly . he said we're not regularly. he said we're not going , uh, regularly. he said we're not going, uh, back to regularly. he said we're not going , uh, back to free movement going, uh, back to free movement , we're not going back into the, uh, internal, uh, market. but i
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worry what is meant by the fence statement . i worry what is meant by the fence statement. i mean, worry what is meant by the fence statement . i mean, there is worry what is meant by the fence statement. i mean, there is only the united kingdom and france with only sort of army, any sort of real defence force , our of real defence force, our defence, the defence of europe is wholly dependent on nato. the problem with any sort of european force is one there is nobody to join it really. and maybe poland, a building up to it, but it's also it might undermine nato. and if there was a conflict and i hope there isn't a conflict , then you have isn't a conflict, then you have two centres of control and that thatis two centres of control and that that is a disaster for any defence force. so i'm not quite sure what has been meant in that. but i, as you say, i strongly support brexit. any rowing back on that i think would be a huge electoral mistake. apart from anything else, apart from a principle mistake and on defence we really
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have to support nato , have to support nato, particularly as trump . we may particularly as trump. we may become the next president of the united states. seems less keen on it, sometimes with good reasons. some of our partners in nato don't pay their whack, sometimes with bad reasons, but i think we have to support nato. >> can i ask you about donald trump? um, do you think if the cards fall a certain way, the most likely outcome is that keir starmer will be the next prime minister of the united kingdom and donald trump could well be the next president of the united states. could the labour party work with donald trump? so many of your mps have been so critical of donald trump for so long. what would that relationship look like? i think it'd be difficult. >> think trump a difficult >> i think trump is a difficult man, but that is one of the, uh, challenges that any british prime minister, whether labour or conservative, would have deaung or conservative, would have dealing with donald trump. if you remember, theresa, theresa
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may has been much more explicit since she wasn't prime minister uh, she had difficulties with, uh, with donald trump . the uh, with donald trump. the united states is the bedrock on which our defence stands. they've been partners in world wars. we have to work at that relationship. it's not an equal relationship. it's not an equal relationship. uh, they don't need us as much as we need them. so i think it's just a task that any british prime minister would have to pursue . have to pursue. >> okay. olivia. >> okay. olivia. >> yeah . i mean, >> okay. olivia. >> yeah. i mean, i think >> okay. olivia. >> yeah . i mean, i think that's >> yeah. i mean, i think that's completely the right way of looking at it. do you think that keir starmer's relationship with a donald trump presidency could prove to be problematic ? i mean, prove to be problematic? i mean, he has been skirting around doing direct criticism of donald trump , but there are plenty in trump, but there are plenty in the labour party and around keir starmer very openly starmer who are very openly critical of donald trump. the conservative party managed to sort of , uh, to conservative party managed to sort of, uh, to tread very sort of, uh, to tread a very thin line without actually criticising could that be criticising trump. could that be a potential issue for a starmer government? >> well, obviously it could be
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an issue. i just think that those things hopefully, i don't know if donald trump's a grown up or he often up person or not. he often appears not to be, but i think grown up politicians have to look at, first of all, at the security and the interests of their country . and we have to their country. and we have to work quite often with people who they're a pretty fundamental difference with. and that would apply difference with. and that would apply to trump, who represents a major, uh, democracy and the largest economy in the world, but could be a key trading partner. >> will those personal differences be put to one side? can i finally probe you, graham on net zero £28 billion committed. it was in the end unaffordable put to one side. but is that because it's unaffordable or is it because you can't afford it. but you actually still would like to do it? and what i mean by that is your roads minister, bill your shadow roads minister, bill atherton, over the weekend said your shadow roads minister, bill athethey over the weekend said your shadow roads minister, bill athethey would re weekend said your shadow roads minister, bill athethey would get eekend said your shadow roads minister, bill athethey would get they 1d said your shadow roads minister, bill athethey would get they would that they would get they would change the ban petrol cars to change the ban on petrol cars to put it back from 2035, as it currently is , bring it forward
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currently is, bring it forward to 2030. a war on the motorist, a lot of working class, a lot of rural voters are dismayed by the net zero war on their motorcar or their way of getting to work. their way of getting about. can we trust the labour party on net zero, or are they out to kill the motorist ? the motorist? >> a lot of questions are there. i was pleased when the £28 billion, uh , a year was scrapped billion, uh, a year was scrapped . there was never any detail working about what it was going to mean for ordinary people. a lot of green initiatives will, uh, good. in principle , will uh, good. in principle, will actually are a regressive tax. poorer people pay more on their energy bills and people need to be able to see that . i think be able to see that. i think getting rid of the 28 billion, uh, was a good thing, not only just because of the regressive taxation , uh, side of it, but taxation, uh, side of it, but one of the difficulties an incoming labour government will have most of the money is being spent by this government, and we have to think very seriously,
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seriously about what? our priorities. uh will be if we get into governance moment and work through them very carefully in terms of, uh, getting rid of petrol cars by 2030, i think it's a mistake. petrol cars by 2030, i think it's a mistake . simple as that. it's a mistake. simple as that. and i think we've seen in london and elsewhere where, uh, charges against the motorists for coming into an urban areas are unpopular . into an urban areas are unpopular. putting up the prices of cars is unpopular. i read the, uh, campaign against the congestion charge in manchester. we won a referendum by 80% of the vote. uh, so . and that was the vote. uh, so. and that was led by all the labour authorities in greater manchester. so it was a difficult campaign for me to run. but people didn't want it. >> okay. superb. rosemary shrager, thank you very much for joining us. blackley and joining us. mp for blackley and broughton. for your time. broughton. thanks for your time. as sense stuff as ever, common sense stuff there. later in the hour there. now later in the hour i'll a tory mp,
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listen. >> firstly, on taoiseach statement yesterday that it is not right to connect immigration with crime is ridiculous . with crime is ridiculous. >> not all immigrants are created equal, and an immigration policy that does not recognise this will end in disaster and tragedy. we don't record crime statistics by ethnicity because to do so would offend liberal sensibilities. >> and ireland has the largest groups of algerian asylum seekers in the world being admitted into the country when all there we go, speaking truth and to discuss this, i'm joined by the leader of the irish freedom party, herman kelly. >> herman, welcome to the show. so the senator there speaking truth to power , saying to deny truth to power, saying to deny that there's a link between immigration and crime is to be in denial of reality. and yet leo varadkar would have us believe precisely that, wouldn't he? well leo varadkar, it's a bit like asking a not to have a connection between ronaldo kicking a football and goals. >> it'sjust
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kicking a football and goals. >> it's just ridiculous. kicking a football and goals. >> it'sjust ridiculous. every >> it's just ridiculous. every where across europe you can see where across europe you can see where there's an increase in unvetted male immigration. in this country, there's an increase in crime . so, for increase in crime. so, for example, in sweden , in a non example, in sweden, in a non national no, this is according to government reports, not just small scale kind of small time studies. uh a foreign national is two and a half times more likely to have committed rape or sexual assault in sweden in, in germany, for example, in lower saxony, there was a government sponsored study which from 2015 to 2016 found that there there had been a 10% increase in serious crime and 92% of that had been carried out by new migrants. now, in 2022, in ireland , there was 12 women were ireland, there was 12 women were murdered and five of those were murdered and five of those were murdered by non—irish nationals. so the idea this, this plea of leo varadkar to oh, please don't connect immigration and crime ,
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connect immigration and crime, it's ridiculous. everybody can see everybody with their eyes open , can see it plainly. see everybody with their eyes open , can see it plainly . and open, can see it plainly. and you know what? it's one of the reasons not only the increase in crime, but it's also the cost to the exchequer , to the taxpayer the exchequer, to the taxpayer and the loss of sovereignty. the people feel that are the people in ireland feel that that the second act of colonisation taking place, they haven't been asked . they weren't asked to asked. they weren't asked to never give their consent. and you know what they feel? what the hell is going on? this used to be ireland 20 years ago and now in many towns in the west of ireland , irish are ireland, irish people are becoming a minority. >> now, of course, herman leo varadkar and the liberals would say, well, it is ireland's duty to offer safe refuge from those fleeing war and persecution . fleeing war and persecution. >> that is the big lie because if you look at the social security numbers, what in ireland we call the pps numbers, uh , the vast majority of people uh, the vast majority of people come in not as refugees or
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asylum seekers. the vast majority of people come into ireland through eu open borders and free movement. now, uh , two and free movement. now, uh, two years ago, there was a beautiful girl , uh, years ago, there was a beautiful girl, uh, killed , murdered in girl, uh, killed, murdered in athlone, right in the centre of ireland . and she was murdered by ireland. and she was murdered by joseph puskar, who was convicted of murder . he joseph puskar, who was convicted of murder. he was a slovak roma. he came into ireland ten years ago because of youtube and borders. he never worked a single day in his life. borders. he never worked a single day in his life . his single day in his life. his family were given a four split new four bedroom house in the middle of tullamore and how do they think that irish people he killed this beautiful, uh, teacher, beautiful girl who was out for a run along the canal in the middle of the day. it shocked the country. but do you know what there's been quite a number cases. just like that. number of cases. just like that. there was not a case. actually, there's many of these, uh , there's so many of these, uh, serious sexual assaults and murders that they're now terrible, heinous crimes going , terrible, heinous crimes going, being passed unremarked. i saw
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when i was researching about the joseph puskar case, i saw that another slovak there are two years ago, uh, 53 year old man had raped and sexually assaulted numerous times. a seven year old girl in wexford. and what else can we find out that he had murdered someone else previous in slovakia and was able to come into ireland without any checks whatsoever, but there has been a very large increase. it is true, in asylum seekers between 13 and 20,000 per year now, and also there's we have over 100,000 ukrainians. uh so that's a huge cost to the, to the taxpayer. but the main thing is that the, the cost to our security and sense of safety and of community and of nationhood, which is very important. >> okay, we have to leave it there. herman kelly soledar of there. herman kelly soledar of the irish freedom party, and of course, has to be pointed out the vast majority of immigrants coming to the country are not criminals. and do not commit
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such crimes. but thank such heinous crimes. but thank you for joining such heinous crimes. but thank you forjoining us on the show. you for joining us on the show. now, there's lots more still to come between now and 6:00. ask if boris johnson is answer if boris johnson is the answer to the tory party's problems, because new poll has revealed because a new poll has revealed that he bring back lost conservative voters if he did head the party in the next head up the party in the next general election on that , i'll general election on that, i'll get the views of a conservative member of parliament. but first, it's latest news it's time for your latest news headunes it's time for your latest news headlines middlehurst headlines with polly middlehurst . and the top stories this hour. >> a man who piloted a people smuggling small boat across the engush smuggling small boat across the english channel has been found guilty of manslaughter. if you're watching on tv, you'll be able to see the pictures that we got here at gb news of that rescue operation in 2022 for four migrants had drowned during that crossing, after the boat had got into difficulty . dodi had got into difficulty. dodi ibrahim abbas, who's a senegalese migrant, claimed he'd sailed boats before, which meant he allowed to the he was allowed to make the journey charge while journey free of charge while others paid thousands . the judge
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others paid thousands. the judge said the boat was navigated using only mobile phone technology and as result of technology and as a result of his actions , four people died . a his actions, four people died. a major crime investigation is underway in bristol today after three young children were found dead. three young children were found dead . officers were responding dead. officers were responding to a welfare call and found the bodies of a boy, aged seven, a three year old girl and a ten month old boy . a 42 year old month old boy. a 42 year old woman was arrested at the scene. she's been taken to hospital and remains in police custody and downing street says that the individuals responsible for alexei navalny's death must be held to account. mps are discussing what action britain could take in response to the putin critics death shadow. foreign secretary david lammy signalled that if labour win to win the next election, he'd crack down on dirty money. that, he said flows from moscow into london and new guidance been issued for teachers in england aimed at standardising the rules governing the use of smart phonesin governing the use of smart phones in schools . as concerns
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>> thank you polly , now about to >> thank you polly, now about to be joined by conservative mp. and i'll ask him if boris johnson is the answer to the party's current problems , party's current problems, because a new poll has revealed that boris would bring back lost conservative voters if he headed up the party at the next general election. i'm martin daubney on 6b election. i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel .
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to gb news radio. >> welcome back . it's >> welcome back. it's approaching 538 and you're watching or listening to martin daubney on gb news. now the big question is boris johnson the answer to all of the tories problems ? well, a new poll say problems? well, a new poll say he is still the most popular candidate to replace rishi sunak
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as prime minister. and if he did retake the conservative leadership, it could put an end to the tory rot . with more than to the tory rot. with more than half of the voters in 2019 saying that it would be enough to bring them back into the fold. well, i'm joined now in the studio by the conservative mp for morecambe and lunesdale, david morris. david, thanks to have you in once again. so . to have you in once again. so. to bnng have you in once again. so. to bring back boris is what the people want. >> i saw that poll, as you can see, i've just literally got off the north of the train from the north of england just been england and um, i've just been reading newspapers in, in reading the newspapers in, in the room and, and it's the green room and, and it's interesting reading. >> i think what we've seen in these by elections, especially last week, labour aren't making any switches. >> in fact, the losing in one of the by elections, they actually lost 5000 voters from 2019, which was not a good year for them. wellingborough them. and in wellingborough i think they gained 100 more. >> so not looking convincing. >> there's going to be this massive landslide , but massive labour landslide, but it has noted . the
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has to be noted. the conservative are not conservative voters are not turning out and, you know, whether this is symptomatic of, i don't know , you know, i've got i don't know, you know, i've got to look at the poll and you know what i'm like looking to the granular of the poll to see who's been polled and why. >> mean, i can't comment on >> i, i mean, i can't comment on that, the reality is there's that, but the reality is there's something just something that's just not sitting this minute sitting right at this minute with the conservative voters and that seems to be, be that seems to be, let's be honest, the buck stops with the leader, with the minister leader, with the prime minister with sunak . with rishi sunak. >> he's only once seen a bump in polling. and that's when he said that he wasn't going to ban petrol cars last a bit of conservative polling . is that conservative polling. is that the thing or is it always in your darkest hour? you look back for the romantic days of yore and boris, when he was riding high. is boris really the answer , or is it just an answer? he what? appear to be very dark days, i think in reality you've got to look back at 2019 and the election, which was a brexit election, which was a brexit election and where we are now and what's happened since we've
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election and where we are now and covids happened since we've election and where we are now and covids hajthatzd since we've election and where we are now and covids hajthat was nce we've election and where we are now and covids hajthat was a e we've election and where we are now and covids hajthat was a massive had covid and that was a massive impact on society. impact on our society. >> know , there's, um, >> you know, there's, um, sociologists are still looking into why we had problems. >> um , in that period. >> um, in that period. >> um, in that period. >> so we had covid then we've got the war. got the ukraine war. >> were in >> we were living in a completely different world now from and we have brexit. completely different world now frorand, and we have brexit. completely different world now frorand, you we have brexit. completely different world now frorand, you know, ve brexit. completely different world now frorand, you know, we've xit. completely different world now frorand, you know, we've had this >> and, you know, we've had this conversation has it come conversation before, has it come too late? >> has it come too soon? >>— >> has it come too soon? >> not happened at all? >> has it not happened at all? we debated but we're we we've debated this, but we're in different area and, you in a different area and, you know, going straight down to nuttall, don't think it's nuttall, i don't think it's about .i nuttall, i don't think it's about . i think rishi about rishi sunak. i think rishi is a very awkward time about rishi sunak. i think rishi is he's a very awkward time about rishi sunak. i think rishi is he's pickingy awkward time about rishi sunak. i think rishi is he's picking upvkward time about rishi sunak. i think rishi is he's picking up theard time about rishi sunak. i think rishi is he's picking up the piecesa where he's picking up the pieces from two major crises. this, in fact three, if you want to call it brexit, because it has had an impact on economy and impact on our economy and our society. looking where we are society. so looking where we are now and where we're going to the future where it should future is where it should be. but think rishi at the but i think rishi is at the moment managing. um, what's been going on and i think , you know, going on and i think, you know, and i've said this to rishi, you know, we've got to start looking towards the future and showing some sort of a vision in that context . context. >> looking back at those two >> but looking back at those two by last david
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by elections last week, david morris, are you worried about reform ? >> reform? >> funny because looked >> it's funny because i looked at vote and, you at the reform vote and, you know, somebody said to me, he's just an activist and i don't mean that in a in any condescending manner because if you listen to your activists, they'll tell things you they'll tell you things that you don't look it don't see because you look at it too deeply. don't see because you look at it too dee he. don't see because you look at it too dee he said that reform in >> but he said that reform in one of elections, correct me one of the elections, correct me if not seen the if i'm wrong, i've not seen the exact 2000. exact figures was about 2000. >> activist said to me, >> and this activist said to me, he said, that's as high as it's going to get. it's as high as it's get. it's going to get. >> do think that's case? it's going to get. >> d> d> d
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boris johnson policy of taking us out of europe, you know , us out of europe, you know, properly. i mean, look, we were all of it then. let's be all sick of it by then. let's be honest. know , i mean, honest. you know, i mean, theresa, her. i'm honest. you know, i mean, tifan sa, her. i'm honest. you know, i mean, tifan of her. i'm honest. you know, i mean, tifan of theresa her. i'm honest. you know, i mean, tifan of theresa may. r. i'm honest. you know, i mean, tifan of theresa may. she i'm honest. you know, i mean, tifan of theresa may. she tried a fan of theresa may. she tried to please everybody. and in doing no one. um, doing so, please, no one. um, and a, know, and we needed a, you know, a hardliner boris. if you hardliner like boris. if you like to come along and you know, he what what he did actually say what what nigel's been saying for years, do you think cut to the chase. >> think, david, if boris >> do you think, david, if boris johnson the leader the johnson was the leader of the conservative party at the next general you more general election, you get more votes boris prime votes with boris as the prime minister than with rishi sunak as minister. or as the prime minister. yes or no? >> it's not that simple. i mean, bofisisnt >> it's not that simple. i mean, boris isn't in parliament. um, you know, i'm a friend of boris's. i'm not going to say anything wrong about him. i like the man. but rishi sunak is a prime minister and we're going to be going to the next election with i think with rishi sunak. and i think that a budget coming that we've got a budget coming up. what in up. let's see what goes on in the budget when the the budget and when the elections start to come around , elections start to come around, the parallels going to be the parallels are going to be drawn labour over what you've drawn of labour over what you've got and, you know, taxes got now and, you know, taxes rising because we've talked
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about what the one renationalised it's going to cost money vision for the cost money or a vision for the future. i think rishi future. and i think that rishi is powder the moment. >> when you look back at those pictures on screen there, as i'm sure viewers will, sure many gb news viewers will, the 2019, the get the glory days of 2019, the get brexit done election , those brexit done election, those delight, those scenes where people were, you know, treating bofis people were, you know, treating boris with adulation. do you miss those days? >> i think those days are just the same as what they are now, to be truthful. i mean, i can remember in that election , bear remember in that election, bear in mind my seat was at the time more or less 5050 remain. biggest was edf energy. biggest employer was edf energy. um, nobody quite knew what was going on. nobody had that crystal ball to the future. but you know , we've on a lot you know, we've moved on a lot from that particular period. we are in a completely different world. you know, the world. as far as you know, the whole change. we've world. as far as you know, the wholum, change. we've world. as far as you know, the wholum, global hange. we've world. as far as you know, the wholum, global recessions've world. as far as you know, the wholum, global recessions , e had, um, global recessions, we've had global crisis, we've had we've got string had wars, we've got a string of wars on europe at the wars going on in europe at the minute. we've not seen minute. you know, we've not seen it unstable for generations it this unstable for generations . so we are a completely . so we are in a completely different world. and i think that rishi is actually holding
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the fort down, to be truthful. and jeremy hunt is. and certainly jeremy hunt is. but to say that but i'm going to say that because of best because he's one of my best friends, i? okay, friends, aren't i? okay, spoken likethank very for >> thank you very much for joining morris, the joining us. david morris, the conservative morecambe conservative mp for morecambe and lunesdale. thank you very much for joining and lunesdale. thank you very much forjoining us in the much for joining us in the studio . now i've got a major studio. now i've got a major update battle to stop update on the battle to stop more being more than 300 migrant being moved luxury block of moved into a luxury block of apartments in farnborough. we'll have that next. i'm martin daubney gb news, britain's daubney on gb news, britain's news channel .
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>> you're listening to gb news radio . welcome radio. welcome back. >> it's 547. you're watching or listening to martin daubney on 6b listening to martin daubney on gb news. now, continuing with a story we've covered extensively on the show since the very beginning, and it looks like hundreds of migrants are about to be moved into a new block of luxury flats in farnborough. locals have been protesting against plans for more than 300
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asylum seekers to be put into luxury apartments . there luxury apartments. there >> what's going . on? mate? >> what's going. on? mate? what's happening? you're moving the invaders in. this is locals today. >> so what happened is that this plan was was paused. the local councillor and the local mp took a consultation with locals 91% of whom said they didn't want 300 asylum seekers to move into luxury flats. flats by the way, that locals cannot afford to buy. in fact, many locals, children are having to move out of the area to be able to afford somewhere to buy these flats or opposite a technical college. thousands of students, teenage students there , locals have very students there, locals have very justifiable concerns of safety . justifiable concerns of safety. can see on your screen now, today, this is a container that's arrived at the complex. remember the home office and the local council say that this is being paused. well, that, ladies
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and gentlemen, is bedding being offloaded from a container and being taken into the flats as we speak. that is happening right now, this afternoon. does that look like a block of flats that's having its development pause or or does it look like a block of flats that is being kitted out for imminent occupation? locals are certain believe that that's what's happening. they've been down there today asking security for answers. they won't give it to them. we've been trying to get a local councillor on to the show. um, we will persist with this. we'll try and get somebody onto the show tomorrow because they quite believe locally quite clearly believe locally that they've done the right thing. protested peacefully thing. they protested peacefully for weekends . they've for many, many weekends. they've organised their community. they've been politician's worst nightmare by being cohesive and by by being democratic diplomats and well behaved and they think they're still being ignored. as i said, we'll push forward with
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this and try and get somebody from the local council to speak to us tomorrow this. if we to us tomorrow on this. if we can't get him before the end of the show, which looking the show, which is looking increasingly unlikely, we the show, which is looking increnotigly unlikely, we the show, which is looking increnot stopjnlikely, we the show, which is looking increnot stop tryingy, we the show, which is looking increnot stop trying to we will not stop trying to represent those communities who feel are not being feel that they are not being listened to. now, moving on. in a recent tweet, sir keir starmer vowed that labour's focus is on assuring the safety and security of its citizens while also committing to delivering economic stability at home, aiming to bolster britain's standing on the global stage within their manifestos, labour has outlined their commitment to secure borders and strong defence, blaming the conservative government as you'd expect for hollowing out the uk's armed forces. well i can now speak with the former nato commander , rear admiral chris commander, rear admiral chris parry . chris, welcome to the parry. chris, welcome to the show. always a pleasure. so, sir keir starmer is very much positioning himself now on the international stage as a future prime minister. he was at a munich security conference over
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the weekend, saying the country would be safer under the labour party. what's your . take? party. what's your. take? >> well, i'd like to see some of the details. >> um, when you're thinking about defence policy, you talk about defence policy, you talk about the outcomes that you want in political terms , followed by in political terms, followed by the ways in which you're going to do it. technology and human resources, and also , uh, the resources, and also, uh, the resources, and also, uh, the resources associated with it. and guess what? none of those three criteria have been met by anything that labour has said so far . um, so anything that labour has said so far. um, so i'm deeply sceptical . um, they're very long on rhetoric, very short on detail, and chris, of particular interest to a lot of people watching gb news will be the information at the weekend. >> well, actually the direct statement, the labour party said they would like to see a closer deal with brussels as a uk, eu security cooperation deal to ensure we stayed safe . if do we ensure we stayed safe. if do we need to be doing that ? i mean, need to be doing that? i mean, we're still a member of nato, isn't nato the peacekeeper of
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europe and not the european union ? martin this has been union? martin this has been rolling on for a long time. >> it's not just a labour issue. >> it's not just a labour issue. >> uh, there's a committed remain agenda that says that we need to be linked with europe. uh, we've talked about this before, martin. uh, europe at the moment has a motto. i think of can't fight, won't fight. the moment has a motto. i think of can't fight, won't fight . and of can't fight, won't fight. and you've only got to see the commitment to the red sea. uh, camp against the houthis. it's us and the americans. there's nobody else taking part directly in that uh we need to in that campaign. uh we need to be deeply sceptical again of this. >> uh , rhetoric . >> uh, rhetoric. >> uh, rhetoric. >> um, europe has not got its act together. >> we've had two years of the ukraine war and have we seen a single country in europe bolstering its defence in response to a direct threat? >> well, the answer is yes . >> well, the answer is yes. >> well, the answer is yes. >> yes. the baltic countries and poland, but precious few others. >> and , chris, the labour party >> and, chris, the labour party will no doubt lament the words
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of donald trump, will no doubt lament the words of donald trump , saying will no doubt lament the words of donald trump, saying european countries need to cough up their full amount for nato. >> but he's got a point, hasn't he? we don't. we don't need the eu army to be making the peace we need. nato to get its proper just deserts from european countries up . countries to pay up. >> that's absolutely right. and this this has been going on, uh, this this has been going on, uh, this has been going on now since about 2016, since, uh, robert gates said that, uh, the united states paid nearly 75% of nato. uh, the fact of life is the mood music has changed in washington in the past. the americans used to say, look, there's a crisis in the world, um, where the sheriff will hand out the depufies sheriff will hand out the deputies badges. you and i call it a coalition. you go off and do the job and we go home again. um, now , now the americans are um, now, now the americans are saying, if you don't put money into your defence, whether your europe or the asia pacific, um , europe or the asia pacific, um, the us cavalry ain't coming to help you. it's simple as help you. it's as simple as that. and we've got to wake up to because a lot of
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to that because a lot of americans don't pay for americans don't want to pay for the defence of europe, whether it's trump indeed it's under trump or indeed under a democratic president . a democratic president. >> okay. so we're going to have to leave it there. rear admiral chris parry, former nato commander. thank you very much for joining on the show. as for joining us on the show. as as ever now, got a quick few emails to rattle through here. been touch in been getting in touch in your droves we trust droves today. can we trust labour? brian says this starmer is clearly devoid of any conviction as he flips and flops all over the place and lives up to boris description being to boris description of being capped . in hindsight, john says capped. in hindsight, john says this everyone who voted brexit knew that when labour get back in, they'll do everything that's been done, especially with two referendums. remainer starmer and the only people he can blame for this is the tories. anyway, thank you joining me on the thank you for joining me on the show . i've martin show today. i've been martin dalby. tomorrow three dalby. i'm back tomorrow three till but after this it's till six, but after this it's dewbs& co with michelle jewellery . stick around for that jewellery. stick around for that and thank for company and thank you for your company today see you today as ever. i'll see you tomorrow .
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tomorrow. >> for a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. on. gb news. >> uh, like alex burkill here again with your latest gb news weather forecast there is some pretty unsettled weather to come as we go through this week, but for the time being, it's largely fine because we've been under the influence of high pressure to the south of the uk, which has quietened our weather down. so did see a bit of so although we did see a bit of rain earlier on in the day through the afternoon, there's been dry and at times been plenty of dry and at times sunny however cloudy, sunny weather. however cloudy, wet windy weather spilling wet and windy weather spilling across scotland as we go through the further south and the night further south and elsewhere. staying mostly dry the night further south and elsethickeningying mostly dry the night further south and elsethickening cloudrostly dry the night further south and elsethickening cloud from dry the night further south and elsethickening cloud from the but thickening cloud from the west. the best chance of any clearer skies will be across eastern areas here, temperatures taking bit of dip in some taking a bit of a dip in some prone spots. getting into prone rural spots. getting into low single figures. so perhaps a fresher start tomorrow morning than it been recently. than it has been recently. otherwise through the day tomorrow, a spell of wet and windy spilling windy weather then spilling its way across parts scotland,
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way across parts of scotland, northern ireland and later pushing their way into parts of northern northwestern northern and northwestern england and wales in the southeast, though here it should stay largely dry, with the rain not arriving until the overnight period. again going to be period. it is again going to be mild. highs of around 14 15 mild. highs of around 14 or 15 celsius southeast , celsius in the southeast, something little bit fresher something a little bit fresher starting to push in from the northwest. behind front, northwest. behind the front, then wednesday. this is then into wednesday. and this is when the when we're likely to see the heaviest rain and some strong, blustery winds , the wettest blustery winds, the wettest weather to be across weather likely to be across parts of the southwest. here we're to see some we're likely to see some disruption some flooding disruption with some flooding possible, well some issues possible, as well as some issues on the roads. more unsettled weather to come as we go through later this week and into the weekend. by that feeling weekend. by by that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on .
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citizens assemblies to help them make key policy decisions . is make key policy decisions. is this a good idea or not? also. would you even volunteer to be on one of those things and get this a fire service has come under fire today. do you see what i did there? yes. uh, they basically refused to get into four foot flood water help four foot flood water to help rescue a motorist that had been trapped his car. so, long trapped in his car. so, long story was left to a story short, it was left to a member public to help rescue member of public to help rescue the fella instead. why? well, you and you guessed it, health and safety. i'm asking you, do you think rules sometimes are think these rules sometimes are more hindrance than a help ? more a hindrance than a help? and last but not least, do you think all drivers should have to retake their driving test at the ripe old age of 65 years of age? thatis ripe old age of 65 years of age? that is a proposal that
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