gb news, a think tank , produces a report a think tank, produces a report saying that he three quarters of a million migrants are no longer working and costing us, the taxpayer, over £5 billion every single year . single year. >> have the arguments for mass migration in terms of economics just been holed below the waterline? plus i will give you the latest on the de—banking crisis with natwest and ask the question , is it really the place question, is it really the place of the secretary of state for education to tell heads of schools what their mobile phone policy should be, or would it be better to leave them to get on with it themselves? is the nanny state just incapable of leaving people alone ? but before all of people alone? but before all of that, let's get the news with polly middlehurst . polly middlehurst. >> nigel, thank you and good evening to you. well, the top story from the gp newsroom tonight. is that a man who piloted a people smuggling small

boat across the english channel has been found guilty of manslaughter. if you're watching on tv, you'll able to see on tv, you'll be able to see footage obtained gb of footage obtained by gb news of the rescue operation, which took place december 2022 for place in december 2022 for migrants drowned during the crossing after the boat ran into difficulty . and ibrahim abar, difficulty. and ibrahim abar, who's a senegalese migrant, claimed he had sailed boats before, which meant he was allowed to make the journey free of charge . others, of course, of charge. others, of course, paid thousands , the judge said. paid thousands, the judge said. the boat was navigated using only technology and only mobile phone technology and as a result of his actions, four people lost their lives , three people lost their lives, three children found dead at a home in bristol yesterday. have this afternoon been named by police. they are siblings. afternoon been named by police. they are siblings . farage bush, they are siblings. farage bush, who was aged seven, three year old george bush and nine month old george bush and nine month old mohammed bush . a heavy old mohammed bush. a heavy police presence remains in the area after the children were found dead on sunday following a call to police officers who responded to a welfare query . a responded to a welfare query. a 42 year old woman was arrested

at the scene. she was taken to hospital and remains in police custody . meanwhile, specialist custody. meanwhile, specialist dive teams are continuing to search the river soar in leicester this evening in a search for a two year old boy who fell into the water yesterday. officers say rising river levels and recent heavy rainfall has resulted in extremely difficult search conditions. leicestershire police assistant chief constable michaela kerr said early earlier the force is stepping up its efforts to find the little boy now , as you've been hearing, new now, as you've been hearing, new guidance has been issued for teachers in england on restricting the use of smartphones in schools as concern grow over the impact of social media on young people , social media on young people, headteachers can now choose to include a ban on phones in their schools behaviour policy, with provisions for searches if necessary. but a union representing headteachers says the guidelines aren't needed because of robust rules already exist . and lord cameron has been exist. and lord cameron has been visiting some of the key battle

sites of the falkland islands as part of a high profile visit to show they are a valued part of the british family . the historic the british family. the historic visit, the first by a foreign secretary in 30 years, comes amid renewed argentine calls for negotiations on the island's future at goose green , one of future at goose green, one of the key sites from where the war in 1982 took place. he visited the museum and spoke to local residents at the community hall. he also visited san carlos and laid a wreath, a memorial to those who lost their lives there. lord cameron says the sovereignty of the falkland islands is non—negotiable, which he says is in line with islanders desire to remain british. for the very latest stories, do sign up for gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen, or go to gb news. comments. let's cross live now to the big apple for. farage. good evening.

>> as you can see, i'm broadcasting tonight from new york. i'll be in america all week. we're going to bring you a lot of big american stories, but for now we're going to focus on things you for things at home. you see, for over decades, i've made the over two decades, i've made the argument uncontrolled mass argument that uncontrolled mass immigration, this is the legal stuff, by the way, that i'm talking happening on talking about happening on a scale never before in the scale never seen before in the history of our islands was putting pressure on housing, on gp appointments, and yes, indeed on the number of cars on the road and generally i was marked , road and generally i was marked, derided, sometimes abused for danng derided, sometimes abused for daring to say those things. but now, actually, i think there is a sort of common understanding that a 10 million increase in the population since mr blair came to power is putting unacceptable pressures on. but the one thing those who believe in mass migration and those who believe in open borders will always hold to, is that it's good for the economy. it's good for gdp. and i can well remember being with nick robinson of the

bbc about ten years ago when he said, but, but but mr farage, immigration at these levels is good for gdp . to which i said i good for gdp. to which i said i couldn't really care less because it's gdp per capita that actually matters. now, the argument has persisted and held right up until today that it is good for the economy. so you will simply have to put up with it. well, a report out overnight has maybe blown a hole in that. maybe hold the whole argument below the water line. you see the centre for migration control have put out astonishing statistics suggesting that unemployed migrants since 2020 have cost us a staggering sum of money. well, i'm joined by the research director for the organisation , rob bates. rob in organisation, rob bates. rob in very, very simple english. please tell me how many people who we define as migrants are not working and what does it cost us in the last few years .

cost us in the last few years. >> so nigel, last year we actually saw a record in the number of people that are arriving in the uk and then not going on to work. it's actually worse than what you say. it's not unemployment, it's economic inactivity, which means they're not between jobs, they're not waiting to start a new role. they are actually not in a role. and they're not seeking new and they're not seeking a new role. um we found through ons data that there were about 1.13 million people currently, economically inactive, having arrived here on a visa , whether arrived here on a visa, whether that be work dependent or study. we have also found that since 2020, £24 billion has been spent on providing services such as education, police force , education, police force, transport and then housing communities on these individuals as well . to 34 billion since as well. to 34 billion since 2020, it is, you know, an eye—watering sum. >> i mean, people get very upset at the cost of £8 million a day

for hotels, for those that come illegally over the channel. rob bates, what i want to put to you is this why why has nobody produced any comparable figures to this before? and also why is this not now? already a major news story? is it because the media want to turn and face the other way ? or is it because other way? or is it because people are querying your figures ? >> 7- >> look, 7 >> look, nigel, ? >> look, nigel, sadly , >> look, nigel, sadly, unfortunately, there is a consensus that exists in whitehall and exists in westminster, and it exists amongst most civil servants that, as you pointed out in your monologue at the beginning, mass migration equals gdp growth. and this is the mindset that has gnpped this is the mindset that has gripped people since the late 1990s. um those of us that try and put forward the case that, you know, the perhaps isn't the economic benefits that are being purported are frequently chastised . and as you say, chastised. and as you say, you've been campaigning on this

more than anyone else, but the argument simply finds itself pushed to the side vice pushed to the side by a vice like grip . the quangos, the obr , like grip. the quangos, the obr, the migration advisory committee have this disease at the heart of their policy making that views the increase in the population exponentially as increase , facing not just gdp increase, facing not just gdp but gdp per capita. and as we are seeing now and most of us are seeing now and most of us are experiencing that gdp per capha are experiencing that gdp per capita increase just isn't translating . translating. >> know the arguments are the arguments are really, really beginning to disappear. but we'll be told, rob, that the you know, the silver lining is that students, foreign students come to britain in ever increasing numbers and that really is good for our economy . that's what for our economy. that's what we'll be . told. we'll be. told. >> oh, absolutely. we'll be told absolutely everything . i mean, absolutely everything. i mean, another report produced by our centre found that the actual costs versus the benefits that these foreign students do bring is, if anything , a net negative.

is, if anything, a net negative. i mean, the general narrative around this is that those that come here to, to study are paying come here to, to study are paying the tuition fees and then are, um, you know, making economic contributions by buying things and things such as that. but fact that we are but the fact is that we are having to provide services for these cost , the these people. and the cost, the pubuc these people. and the cost, the public expenditure has to increase in proportion the increase in proportion to the population. is pretty basic population. this is pretty basic economics, no one does seem economics, but no one does seem to be gripping. it >> no we don't. well, rob, i have to say well done with this with these figures. it's fascinating . it could change the fascinating. it could change the whole national debate and they may be ignoring you now , but may be ignoring you now, but unless they can destroy your calculations, i have a feeling we're going to be seeing a lot more of you over the course of the coming weeks and months. and thank you for joining the coming weeks and months. and thank you forjoining me the coming weeks and months. and thank you for joining me this evening on gb news. now sticking with a similar theme, but pretty alarming, is that the chief inspector of borders and immigration, david neil, has produced a series of findings suggest noting that foreign care

workers that come into the united kingdom that up to 25% of them are abusing the rules by working illegally. now we're always told that there is a huge need for care workers in britain. we're always told that the salaries just aren't big enough against the benefit system . for british people to system. for british people to want to do that work . and there want to do that work. and there probably some real truth in probably is some real truth in that. and yet, if up to 25% of those that come are acting illegally , and it would seem up illegally, and it would seem up until now that in some areas foreign care workers come in, but bring in almost the same number of family members with them , that we need to have a them, that we need to have a proper debate about this. i'm very pleased to be joined by mike padgham, chair of the independent care group. mike, good evening . welcome to the good evening. welcome to the program. you know , as i say, the program. you know, as i say, the arguments always made that we desperately need people . we've desperately need people. we've got an ageing population. they

need a lot of care. uh, brits won't do the job if i accept those arguments for a moment, how can it be that the system is so lax that up to 25% are found by the inspector of borders and immigration to be working illegally . illegally. >> well, good evening to you, nigel. it's good to join you. i mean, those figures are shocking to me. when i looked at it, um, today, when i saw that, uh, 275 visas that had been issued to a care home that didn't even exist , and a further over a thousand people joined a company that only had previously four staff in it. it makes me wonder. the bureaucracy of the home office didn't think to check that these companies existed in the first place, because it should be quite straightforward. if people are providing care, they are regulated by the care quality commission. phone commission. it's a simple phone call and check. call to check and double check. sadly this seems to have been very loopholes very many loopholes at the beginning. i believe that's been tightened , i can't tightened now, but i can't understand because all the

understand it because all the providers that are doing it in the proper way have go the proper way have to go through quite a rigmarole to actually get approved. and it takes months. so it beggars belief that this has happened and people have been approved for company that even for a company that doesn't even exist . exist yet. >> yeah. i mean, you know, the home office was, was was deemed to be not fit for purpose. many, many, many years ago. and i think you're right. i mean, clearly there are some in the care sector who've been acting dishonestly and fraudulently and, you know, but you'll find that in any industry, there'll be people who try to do that . be people who try to do that. but yes, it does point very , but yes, it does point very, very firmly at the home office. and i'd to love hear from james cleverly, the home secretary, what he intends to do about it. but, mike, can i get back to that other debate? and it is an important debate . but, you know, important debate. but, you know, we do have an ageing population and they need a lot of care and they do need a lot of care and they do need a lot of care and we want them to be dealt with and looked as with and looked after as compassionately possible. with and looked after as compassionately possible . i compassionately as possible. i mean, all of us agree mean, you know, all of us agree on there any way is

on that. is there any way is there any way, in your opinion, through the tax system or through the tax system or through increased salaries ? is through increased salaries? is there any way that we could get more british people to work in the care sector ? the care sector? >> well, nigel, we could spend the whole evening debating this. i would say that there is a solution , but sadly no solution, but sadly no government of any colour so far. the the labour the conservatives, the labour party dems have come party or the lib dems have come up with a solution because we have to pay staff in this country more more in social care. but that means that somewhere either local authorities are going to pay more for the care or taxes have to go up. but if you want a good quality life, have to pay quality of life, we have to pay for and ever since i've been for it. and ever since i've been involved, which is three decades, every cut , every party decades, every cut, every party has ignored this challenge . and has ignored this challenge. and now coming home to now we're coming home to chickens are coming home to roost the elderly roost because the elderly population is growing. it's great living great that we're all living longer, but by 2035, we need around 440,000 staff in social care in this country. and if i

just say we're already short of 150,000, unless less people come to the solution, the only way we can care for people is by bringing staff in from overseas. and big challenge, but and it's a big challenge, but it's never top the it's never at the top of the agenda for the politics. it's always so far down the list . the always so far down the list. the nhs front and we lag nhs is in front and we lag behind and we have to solve it. this time . this time. >> yeah , i mean the problem is >> yeah, i mean the problem is i mean, again, one of the areas, one of the areas that david neil looked at, one of the time frames was a period in which 123,000 foreign care workers came in, but 145,000 family members came with them. so again , you know, you are putting burdens and costs on the state. now, the government have said that system will stop from march of this year, but kind of given what we've seen already about with the home office, i believe what we've seen already about wiwhene home office, i believe what we've seen already about wiwhen home office, i believe what we've seen already about wiwhen i, ime office, i believe what we've seen already about wiwhen i, i see office, i believe what we've seen already about wiwhen i, i see it.ice, i believe what we've seen already about wiwhen i, i see it. buti believe what we've seen already about wiwhen i, i see it. but you.ieve it when i, i see it. but you see, the problem , you know, we see, the problem, you know, we just cannot have another half, nearly half a million people

coming into this sector alone. do you believe if the money was right, final thought on this, if the money was right and it could be through tax incentives, it could be raising the threshold for argument's sake at which people start pay do you people start to pay tax. do you believe we could find british people to do these jobs ? people to do these jobs? >> i do believe that is the case when people only get just above the national living wage. but it's going to take a big hike because we feel that social care staff should be on the same wages those in the nhs. but wages as those in the nhs. but i think that's where the politics comes going to cost the comes in. it's going to cost the taxpayer or the british public a lot more money. are they prepared to pay for it? well, if you want to be looked after in old age, to pay for it. old age, we have to pay for it. in view . in my view. >> no strong point. mike padgham , thank very much indeed for , thank you very much indeed for joining me. and mike making the point and it is a fair point there. and it is a fair point there. and it is a fair point that social care really is a cinderella service compared point that social care really is a cirwe'ella service compared point that social care really is a cirwe view service compared point that social care really is a cirwe view and ce compared point that social care really is a cirwe view and thinknpared point that social care really is a cirwe view and think about the how we view and think about the nhs, not to say that hasn't got its problems now . david cameron, its problems now. david cameron,

should i say lord cameron, who of course now is our esteemed foreign secretary, spoke out after the death or should we say murder? i don't know of opposition leader navalny saying there should be consequences . there should be consequences. he's been here in america, too, telling congress it needs to pass the $60 billion worth of funding for ukraine, something i'm going looking at i'm going to be looking at dunng i'm going to be looking at during week , but also, and during this week, but also, and very interestingly , he's now in very interestingly, he's now in the falkland islands. he's gone to send a strong message. goodness me, it's the first thing he's done as foreign secretary that i've actually agreed with. we'll look at all of

radio. >> well, it was a shock, but it was no surprise, really. was it ? was no surprise, really. was it? when we got the news mid—morning on friday last that opposition leader in russia, navalny, had died. he'd been sent out to some utterly appalling place as a modern day equivalent of the

gulag out in siberia. and we've been hearing reports about prisoners made to stand out in the freezing cold for up to 40 minutes. if they move , being minutes. if they move, being hosed down with cold water. the whole thing sounded pretty brutal and pretty awful . and, brutal and pretty awful. and, uh, it was disappointing in some ways that tucker carlson didn't ask in that interview about navalny , he asked about an navalny, he asked about an american journalist, but not about navalny . so many about navalny. so many journalists , so many politicians journalists, so many politicians who've got in the way of putin have died . i think that says an have died. i think that says an awful lot about him as a man. the body has not been released to the family. his mother went to the family. his mother went to the family. his mother went to the camp to try and seek it. the news that we've had today that's come from a doctor is that's come from a doctor is that the body was very heavily bruised. his wife , yulia, says bruised. his wife, yulia, says she believes as every reason to believe that novichok poison was used and that the reason for the bruises is trying to physically contain someone that is having

convulsions. i don't know much about this subject, but hamish de bretton—gordon, a former commanding officer of the uk's chemical, biological, radiological and nuclear regiment, would know far more than anyone. hamish. there is a history, isn't there? a record of vladimir putin or those that operate on his behalf, or believe they are using novichok, using other chemical and nerve agents, and indeed there was a previous attempt, was there not, on navalny's life . on navalny's life. >> good evening nigel. yes, absolutely. um, the murder, as i think it probably is of, um, navalny has all the hallmarks of the russian secret service, which of course, is synonymous with putin. anyway and the use of, of toxic chemicals to do that. um is a particular, um, disease the, of the russians. litvinenko was killed with polonium 210 in the uk back in 2006, where i'm talking to you

from salisbury in 2018, sergei skripal was, uh, tried to be assassinated with novichok. and assassinated with novichok. and as you say, alexei navalny was poisoned with novichok in august 2020. uh, in russia . and he 2020. uh, in russia. and he somehow survived. so the fact that he looked pretty well on thursday evening when he was last seen on tv and then died on friday, the russians said it was sudden cardiac death syndrome. now now that is a syndrome. i have. now now that is a syndrome. i have . i know, i know a lot about have. i know, i know a lot about it and, uh, certainly navalny did not look like somebody who had that particular syndrome. i might say that it's only people who sort of die on sports pitches of it. if you know you've got it , you pitches of it. if you know you've got it, you can do a lot about it. so the accusation that it is novichok would make a lot of sense, because we know the russians design this, uh, deadly nerve agent to be undetectable . nerve agent to be undetectable. so, as you said, the body is probably not going to be released for 14 days. so the chances of a rudimentary post—mortem in russia actually

finding it are pretty unlikely. so we'll probably never know how he died. but i think it's clear to most people that, um, he was died to get him out of the way, probably ahead of putin's alleged sham election . on the alleged sham election. on the 12th of march. >> yeah. no no. and i mean, there's no question the guy had considerable support in russia. he the main option. edition he was the main option. edition voice and hamish david cameron responded very strongly, saying there should be consequences for what he's done. there has been, you know , pretty much unanimity you know, pretty much unanimity of revulsion amongst the west . of revulsion amongst the west. um, and yet , of revulsion amongst the west. um, and yet, militarily, russia has made another advance over the course of the last 48 hours. do you sense , despite the words do you sense, despite the words of david cameron and others , is of david cameron and others, is that actually the west reserve solve to continually pump money into ukraine is beginning to tire ? well first of all, i think

tire? well first of all, i think david cameron's doing a good job getting around the place, getting around the place, getting to the falklands today . getting to the falklands today. >> uh, one of the reasons i think putin has been on on the loose, as it were, because he didn't think the west would do anything about it, is anything about it, which is why he ukraine two years he invaded ukraine two years ago. we won't. everybody ago. and we won't. everybody remembers obama red line on remembers the obama red line on chemical weapon which chemical weapon use, which again, sort of ignored . again, the west sort of ignored. and somebody putin only and somebody like putin only responds to strength . but as you responds to strength. but as you say , um, particularly in the us , say, um, particularly in the us, there is waverings about supporting ukraine. i hope people in this country and around europe and the states realise that putin has no limits , you know, if he's quite happy to murder for one of his, um , to murder for one of his, um, uh, members of his country, like navalny. uh, then he's probably prepared to do anything. i think what everybody needs to understand, if putin prevails in ukraine, he's not going to stop there. he's going to keep going west. so i think it's to all of to us redouble our efforts to

support ukraine and the us. obviously is key to this. and whether the 60 billion package is signed off or not. hopefully it will be because , again, that it will be because, again, that sends a message and you know, ukraine is running ammunition. this is ridiculous. the danes today thankfully have said they'll open , they'll empty they'll open, they'll empty their ammunition stores and give it to ukraine. quite frankly, if we support ukraine, we we don't support ukraine, we might well find ourselves with our own beleaguered military having to fight the russians in europe on european soil in the next couple of years . next couple of years. >> hey, mr bretton—gordon, thank you, as ever, for your voice on this. and of course, none of us can know whether hamish is right. none of us can know. after ukraine, whether whether putin would go for moldova, whether he would go for poland, whether he would go for poland, whether he would go for estonia. we don't know answers to any we don't know the answers to any of there are some who look of this. there are some who look at history and say, well, it's a bit like the 1930s. it's a dictator that takes a bit and keeps on taking . there are

keeps on taking. there are others that say no, even putin isn't mad as to provoke isn't that mad as to provoke a war against nato. none of us can know the truth of it. what we can know is that hundreds of thousands of people have been killed in ukraine, that is killed in ukraine, that it is almost first world war style almost a first world war style tragedy, the somme with tragedy, almost the somme with drones that is going on in ukraine and that it's loathsome. i'll be coming back to that $60 billion package and the politics of it here in america repeatedly over the course of this week. and as for david cameron. well, yes . good. and as for david cameron. well, yes. good. i'm and as for david cameron. well, yes . good. i'm pleased he's gone yes. good. i'm pleased he's gone to the falklands . it's a very, to the falklands. it's a very, very good thing . it's a show of very good thing. it's a show of support for falkland islands sovereignty . it's really for me sovereignty. it's really for me to stand up and praise david cameron like this in public. a most unusual thing in interestingly, the new president of argentina, malay, will be coming to the cpac conference on wednesday . coming to the cpac conference on wednesday. i'm going to do my to best have a word with him. i'm going to ask him the question

about the falklands , and i would about the falklands, and i would have thought he's got enough on his plate dealing with the argentine economy you argentine economy and would you believe already , since he believe he's already, since he became president, cut public spending by a staggering 50. here is somebody doing his best to get argentina out of just a catastrophe with inflation and interest rates. i wish him well with that. i just hope he doesn't have designs on the falklands. you know what? i'm going to ask him in a moment. the latest on the de—banking scandal as a member of parliament goes and visits natwest bigwigs and goes to number 10 as well

and they don't want stuff done to them. >> you're listening to tv, news, radio. well on friday we had the natwest profit figures £6.2 billion higher than the market expected. >> we also had the appointment of a permanent ceo and if you listen to natwest bank and

jeremy hunt, the chancellor, one of the things he really wants to announce on his 6th of march budget is that there'll be a big pubuc budget is that there'll be a big public offering of the last 38% of natwest shares that are owned by the government on your behalf. well, that's all fine and dandy, but there's an awful lot that needs to be sorted out. you see, when i set up account closed, org . little did i know closed, org. little did i know that i was going to get thousands of people contact me saying also had been saying they also had been de—banking and that of those banks. the people felt had unfairly closed them down. it was the natwest group that was at the top of that list. and so many of those people have said to me, nigel can't we get together? can't we fight a joint action? what would be known here in america as a class action? now it's possible in british law to do it just perhaps not quite as straightforward as it would be in america, but frankly, until this bank proves that it has changed its culture for i

don't think that it's fit to be sold to off the public. now, this morning outside the natwest head office, there was a protest headed up by sarah dines mp, conservative for derbyshire dales and gb news is adam cherry. was there to witness it after months of fighting to save the town of bakewell's last banking branch. >> today, conservative mp for derbyshire dales, sarah dines, took her campaign to natwest's doorstep . doorstep. >> so i'm here outside the headquarters of natwest bank because they can't even spare me a phone call from paul thwaite , a phone call from paul thwaite, who is the confirmed chief executive . we help them in executive. we help them in extremis . when the bank needed extremis. when the bank needed help, we gave £45.5 billion and now they can't keep one single branch open in the whole of the peak district. so i'm bringing this petition . almost 4000 this petition. almost 4000 people have signed this , and people have signed this, and that's virtually the whole population of bakewell. >> a very old lady came to in withdraw four weeks of her

pension because she was so worried about what she was going to do when the bank closes this week, she gets her money out weekly a pension comes in and weekly as a pension comes in and she doesn't know what she's going to do. she deals in cash. she's an old lady. she doesn't. she's an old lady. she doesn't. she was shaking hands. can't she was shaking hands. she can't use cashpoint . use a cashpoint. >> visited the natwest >> i also visited the natwest branch last week and i was about 9:10. i was standing outside the natwest . i was going to meet natwest. i was going to meet somebody and people were queuing up the street. >> what i want natwest to do is to understand and the nature of bakewell. the nature of the peak district and the fact that there has said this poor has already been said this poor connectivity, the demographics are an ageing population and one size does not fit all in terms of bank branches . of bank branches. >> natwest say they understand and recognise that digital solutions aren't right for every situation and when they close , situation and when they close, branches. quote nobody is left behind. the residents of bakewell might well disagree , bakewell might well disagree, but with just days to go , the

but with just days to go, the clock is ticking . clock is ticking. >> so you see de—banking isn't just closing people's accounts down, it's denying them access to services. and yeah , the to services. and yeah, the answer is don't worry, you can all bank online. well, that doesn't the population . doesn't suit all the population. ian. there are many, particularly people who particularly elderly people who simply and if simply can't do it. and if you're local business taking you're a local business taking cash, hell you cash, what the hell are you supposed do with other supposed to do with it other than to drive 20 or 30 than have to drive 20 or 30 miles away to where there is a branch? i understand that branch? now, i understand that sarah dines did actually get a meeting with some natwest bosses and then go on to number 10 downing street, and she joins me live in our london studio right now. sarah. well done. you've had a busy day. um, did you get through to meet the big boss? >> i didn't get to speak to the chief executive of natwest. i've written to him multiple times. unfortunately, he can't spare three minutes for a phone call. i've spoken to lots of pr people from natwest who talk in language, which my residents , language, which my residents, and i'm here to stick up for

them. about them. don't understand about transitioning to online. my 93 year olds don't know what that means . the language is means. the language is appalling. they want to engage. they want to consult. yet they had a they made a decision to close the last branch in the peak district, the whole of the peak district, the whole of the peak district, the whole of the peak district, without a proper consultation. so i did manage to speak to a managing director. he is the customer engagement or the customer non—engagement directors. i would say he was a very nice man. he's called raj narula. i spoke to him about my 90 year olds who go to the bank every week , and i want to know every week, and i want to know why they're not a regular customer because looking at their information , they only their information, they only have six. now, i looked at this information online, nigel, you'll find it very interesting because if you look at the list in alphabetic order next to bakewell , there's only six bakewell, there's only six customers. the next one down is the barbican . and guess what, the barbican. and guess what, nigel? they've only got six regular personal customers , so regular personal customers, so i'm interested to see the

information on that is going to be de—banking. information on that is going to be de—banking . my residents . be de—banking. my residents. >> yeah, i mean de—banking sarah, however it happens, is it is actually a little bit like the removal of gas or water or electricity from your house. it is an absolute vital service. so i'm very, very pleased that you're enjoying in this fight. slightly different avenue to me, but equally but equally important. now in the wake of the fights that i was having last year, andrew griffith, who then was the treasury minister responsible for financial services , he moved on. since you services, he moved on. since you know him and the chancellor made a series of promises about reforms to the way in which banks treat their customers. my worry, sarah, is this the general election is almost upon us. is there time for this government to do anything ? government to do anything? >> and i think there is time. there's plenty of time to vote because there is a quite a big amount of space that's available . and i'm seeking to lobby the

government. i know andrew griffith well . i know bim griffith well. i know bim afolami well and i have been bugging them for changes in this field because we're leaving behind citizens . it behind ordinary citizens. it isn't good enough. it's almost like a national service banking. it's heavily regulated and it needs to look after the vulnerable and i want to build on your excellent work . when you on your excellent work. when you worked on the right to cash , the worked on the right to cash, the government moving in the government is moving in the right . we've got to right direction. we've got to move one old gentleman move further. one old gentleman said one my team, the said to one of my team, the other they're waiting other day, they're just waiting for not for us to die. it's not acceptable while we have rights. this is the right of the individual. when everything's online. derbyshire dales and particularly the peak district, has dreadful connectivity . it has dreadful connectivity. it may be lush and green, nigel, but it's a bit of a digital desert, to be frank. it's just not right. there's been a lack of consultation and there's insufficient research. we can't have this corporate speak . we have this corporate speak. we need proper facts. we need to look after the citizens of this country. you said to keep up the good work.

>> great to see what you're doing. and by the way, cash and i don't kill cash campaign isn't just for the elderly. the right to use cash is a basic freedom. thank you for joining to use cash is a basic freedom. thank you forjoining me to use cash is a basic freedom. thank you for joining me tonight on gb news. now, you've seen the farmers protests all over europe. you've seen the beginnings of farmers protests down in dover, in kent. but over the weekend and today , over 100 the weekend and today, over 100 tractors turned up outside a labour leadership meeting. remember that position is now vacant with mark drakeford eventually going , what is it? eventually going, what is it? i'm going to ask gareth wyn jones what is it, gareth wyn jones, that is upsetting farmers and is it true? is it true that the welsh government's proposals could cost up . to 5500 jobs? could cost up. to 5500 jobs? >> yeah. good evening . yeah, >> yeah. good evening. yeah, 5500 jobs. 200. and that's just in the agriculture sector. let's not talk about what the knock on effects hauliers, auctioneers ,

effects hauliers, auctioneers, you know, meat processing plants , all these people are going to lose their livelihoods. we've seen what's happened in tata steel. it's honestly it's a disaster . absolute disaster. disaster. absolute disaster. >> and that's because they're telling you to plant trees as opposed to rearing sheep and cattle. is that the nub of what the welsh government is trying to force you to do ? to force you to do? >> well, yeah. it's draconian , >> well, yeah. it's draconian, but it's not just that. so you know, a lot of farmers have come together. so there was 1100 down in welshpool, and then carmarthen had over 3000, and the general , carmarthen had over 3000, and the general, you carmarthen had over 3000, and the general , you know, structure the general, you know, structure of what we want are three things. so to stop the sfs, which is the so—called sustainable farming scheme, which is going to plant another, you know, 10% of our farms and the trees , which is ridiculous. the trees, which is ridiculous. we are not against tree planting the right tree in the right place , hedges and hedges. great. place, hedges and hedges. great. you know , um, it just doesn't

you know, um, it just doesn't make sense. the next one is the nitrate . um, vulnerable zones , nitrate. um, vulnerable zones, you know, so we're not allowed to carry our manure over the winter and things. and that's going across wales going to be blanket across wales now. it's going to cost farmers hundreds of thousands to have their storage done. or they'll have to cut down on their livestock. so that's two. and number three, and this is really important to me because , you important to me because, you know, we've got an inconclusive cow. and last year went down cow. and last year we went down to . um, we have seen to tb. um, we have seen fantastic results in england with the reduction of tb. um, and that's just with the reduction in badger numbers, you know, done properly , done know, done properly, done professionally and just taking them numbers down and not only doesit them numbers down and not only does it save the taxpayer hundreds of thousands and i mean that we're losing hundreds and hundreds of cows every single week. thousands of them. and you know, these cows are part of our dietary requirements from milk to cheese to butter , you know, to cheese to butter, you know, to cheese to butter, you know, to beef . and people are

to beef. and people are forgetting that . and to have forgetting that. and to have affordable food and food security, you know , you have to security, you know, you have to listen to the farmer because i am going to tell you something. we are sleepwalking into food shortages , and this will happen shortages, and this will happen sooner than later. and if people want affordable food, well , back want affordable food, well, back british agriculture because we are the people that are at the coalface producing it . and none coalface producing it. and none of these governments are listening. you know, we have to make a difference. let's build a better britain on our bellies. well let's have a farming food revolution , gareth. bring people revolution, gareth. bring people together . i revolution, gareth. bring people together. i i hear the passion . together. i i hear the passion. >> uh, and i've spoken similarly to kent farmers who feel exactly the same as you, albeit they're not under quite the same draconian control that you are from the welsh government. uh, and i sense this issue is not going to go away. and i thank you for joining going to go away. and i thank you forjoining me and giving us your reasons for the protests that have now kicked off and look set to continue in wales.

the what the farage moment. new polling shows and it comes with the british beer and pub association that 41% of people see mps and councillors who visit pubs as being more in touch with the views of local people . really, goodness people. really, goodness gracious me, i could have told you that 25 years ago. made me laugh. i'd go and visit the pubs because it's what i do anyway. and then you'd see, you know, front line career politicians turning up with a pint and looking around and ritchie's doneit looking around and ritchie's done it a couple of times, and prime minister don't bother. it doesn't suit you. but actually going into pubs and clubs and meeting people in their relaxed environment, that's what they talk about things. my theory is that every is a parliament. that every pub is a parliament. it's where we have debate and we're very often people through force of argument that change we're very often people through forc point rgument that change we're very often people through forc point of|ment that change we're very often people through forc point of view: that change we're very often people through forc point of view ,that change we're very often people through forc point of view , all change we're very often people through forc point of view , all of|ange we're very often people through forc point of view , all of which our point of view, all of which makes it even more of a tragedy that there are some suggestions today that up to 7000 pubs could close next year, because they're simply not getting the money

through the door that they need, and that will be a social tragedy for our country. now the government are determined to chemically castrate grey squirrels and they want to do it to save trees. and they're also determined that we have to cull more deer. and bear in mind there are now more deer in the country than there have been for a thousand years, and the idea is kaldir and you can feed prisoners and other others with venison. i like venison, it's good, healthy meat. i know people hate the idea of shooting bambi, but in practical terms , bambi, but in practical terms, if we don't stop grey squirrels and deer numbers, we're going to really struggle with new natural growth of deciduous woodland. i've seen this for myself, and i'll add something else that no doubt will get a few people screaming and complaining . grey screaming and complaining. grey seal numbers in the north sea have exploded over the course of the last few years. and yes,

there cute. and yes, they're lovely , but their numbers have lovely, but their numbers have exploded and in fact, 95% of the european grey seal population is in uk waters . and now their in uk waters. and now their effects on migrating salmon on fish stocks are becoming , i fish stocks are becoming, i mean, literally becoming quite devastating. and certainly reports from commercial fishermen, photographs i've seen evidence, i've seen of fish in nets waiting to be collected by commercial fishermen and seals coming and not eating them all, but literally destroying the whole lot and rendering them in edible. what do we do about this ? it's really, really easy when they're lying out on the sandbanks . we just need to use sandbanks. we just need to use some contraceptive darts. we need to keep the numbers under control. you see, not all environmental stories are bad stories . there are lots of stories. there are lots of species and birds of prey doing incredibly well. we just need to maintain a sensible balance. i look forward to lots of complaints for daring to say that about seals, even if it's

right. so the education secretary, gillian keegan, is telling heads of schools what their mobile phone policy should be. is it a worry that kids are on these phones? is it a distraction for school life ? you distraction for school life? you bet your life it is. but does it really need to come from the government? all of that in just a moment on patrick christys tonight, 9 to 11 pm. have extreme lists. >> got circus starmer on the run. the labour party could now vote the snp over a vote with the snp over a ceasefire in gaza . is the nhs ceasefire in gaza. is the nhs eradicating women? they're claiming trans women's milk is as good as natural breast milk. speaking of the nhs , they're speaking of the nhs, they're serving patients food. you wouldn't give to your dog and violent riots among eritrean around europe. have we imported sectarian violence into britain ? sectarian violence into britain? don't miss patrick christys tonight nine till 11 pm. on gb news. i'll be there

i >> -- >> well, the one statistic today that really did stand out was when the education secretary, gillian keegan, said that 97% of 12 year olds have a mobile phone. so what is to be done in schools, and is it really the job of the education secretary to tell heads to what do? i'm joined by frank young, director of policy and research at parent kind , a charity network of kind, a charity network of parent teacher association fundraisers . frank, no one fundraisers. frank, no one doubts that phones can be very disruptive in schools . um, but disruptive in schools. um, but isn't this up to the individual heads to sort out their own policy ? policy? >> well, i think we have a problem that we need to address. about a third of secondary age children say that they see mobile phones being used in the classroom and in school , mobile phones being used in the classroom and in school, um, all the time. so we have to address this problem. and i think the secretary of state is right to be absolutely clear with the guidance for every school in this country that mobile phones have no place in our classroom.

and indeed, across our schools . and indeed, across our schools. but surely, frank , headmasters but surely, frank, headmasters and headmistresses know this themselves . themselves. >> they don't need central government to tell them . government to tell them. >> well, it's right that government sets the direction and this is a victory for parents above all else . parents parents above all else. parents tell us overwhelmingly that they want phones banned in the classroom. so this is a real victory for parents. and too often, parents are overlooked when it comes to big debates and big questions about how we deliver our education system . so deliver our education system. so we're pleased this evening that the government has listened to parents who tell us overwhelmingly they don't want phonesin overwhelmingly they don't want phones in classrooms . i think we phones in classrooms. i think we have to remember that the government speaking up for parents. >> yeah , yeah. >> yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah. >> no, no, i get that. they're smart and yeah, they're not just little old, old fashioned nokias their smartphone phones which frank thank you. which brings me on to my next guest. quite

conveniently, which is jonathan taylor , former covert internet taylor, former covert internet investigator in the metropolitan police. child abuse investigation command team. jonathan, i guess there are two issues here, aren't there? one issues here, aren't there? one is the disruption of any kind of phone school. the other is phone in school. the other is the broader debate about miriam cates. i think amongst other mps raised this about whether it's appropriate for 12 year old kids to have smartphones with access to have smartphones with access to virtually anything . to virtually anything. >> um, yes . to virtually anything. >> um, yes. good evening nigel. i would agree with that. the fact that, uh, perhaps it's not appropriate, but you have to be realistic here that, i mean, i go into schools twice a week speaking on online safety, and i have to be a realist that even in years one, there'll be years one and two, there'll be 10% of the pupils will be having smartphone phones. so there has to be some realism here. um, i don't want to. if i could go back in time, it'd be great to be able to say, let's treat it and legislate it like tobacco

and legislate it like tobacco and alcohol. but we're beyond that now. the that in that point now. the fact that in year seven, where you've got 12 year seven, where you've got 12 year olds, there's nearly 100, they've got the smartphones now. so really it's got to be down to, um , parents, really. they to, um, parents, really. they they supply the devices. they're they supply the devices. they're the ones that should be looking at the competence and resilience of their own child , supported by of their own child, supported by the school . it really should be the school. it really should be far more about parents than it should be. the school . should be. the school. >> yeah. i mean, look, you know, the school , of course, you know, the school, of course, you know, with a tough head and discipline, the school can take phones away from people at 9 am. and give them back at 330. that, of course, can happen, but it is this other broad debate, jonathan, me , jonathan, that interests me, that if you're a parent with a 14 year old kid and you're denying them access to what every other kid in the street has got, what their cousins have got, it's very tough for parents, isn't it ? most definitely. >> the fact is, last week in this school, you had year seven

parents. i was talking to them and they said similar thing. nigel, the fact that well everybody else has got one. i said, okay, i totally agree, there's pressure there. and i said, you can't say what age should my child be? i said, you will know the right age, whether it's peer, it's pressure from peer, pressure but pressure from friends, but you're going to know. but when you're going to know. but when you decide you do, when you decide now is the have to take an the time you have to take an active part and be involved with your child's online life. and that includes the smartphone . that includes the smartphone. what are doing? who are what are they doing? who are they talking to? make sure you're there like you would in any instance. being any other instance. being a parent. yeah. parent. yeah yeah. >> no, i think they're very wise words. jonathan and i thank you for joining this debate with us this evening. well i'm sure someone who knows all about the trials and tribulations of children growing up and wanting things is jacob rees—mogg, because he's got half a dozen of them. um, jacob, what have you got coming up on the show this evening? >> well, i will be doing that because i've done an exclusive focus group amongst six distinguished children to find out their views on this policy.

but i'm going to be starting talking about the murder of alexei navalny and the really absolutely feeble response of the foreign office. i was in the commons for the statement and the verbiage that came out was just hopeless . just hopeless. >> right. jacob, all of that to come up in just a moment. thank you. and i'll be moving on to washington, dc tomorrow, and i'll be broadcasting, as i've said from america, said all week from america, we'll a look at trump we'll be having a look at trump v we hope to talk to the v biden. we hope to talk to the argentinian president, particularly with cameron and the falklands. going to do the falklands. i'm going to do my best to try and him my best to try and track him down whether should down and whether congress should approve this $60 billion package, all of that. and of course, in south carolina this saturday, another primary, and it's going to be trump versus haley, an awful lot to look forward to over the next few days. but before that and before i go off, let's have a look at what the uk weather has in store for of you . for all of you. >> looks like things are heating

up boxt boilers, sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello! very good evening to you. i'm alex burkill. here's your latest gb news weather update. there will be a spell of wet and windy weather for many of us tomorrow, before of us tomorrow, but before that we have a relatively quiet we do have a relatively quiet night ahead. that's because we have pressure to the south have high pressure to the south of is keeping our of us, which is keeping our weather largely settled. that being said , a weak is being said, a weak front is pushing its eastwards across pushing its way eastwards across scotland bringing scotland this evening, bringing some and some some thick cloud and some outbreaks rain for a time. outbreaks of rain for a time. then through much night. then through much of the night. for us it is going to be for many of us it is going to be largely perhaps largely dry. perhaps some thickening the west thickening cloud in the west will bring few outbreaks of will bring a few outbreaks of drizzly here, and watch drizzly rain here, and watch out for mist fog patches. for some mist and fog patches. two it may be a touch fresher than some recent nights, particularly in the east, where than some recent nights, parmayarly in the east, where than some recent nights, parmay get in the east, where than some recent nights, parmay get some east, where than some recent nights, parmay get some clearer/here than some recent nights, parmay get some clearer skies. we may get some clearer skies. temperatures perhaps dropping to low figures but staying low single figures but staying above however as we go above freezing. however as we go through tuesday, a wet morning across parts of scotland and northern ireland as a band of rain pushes its way in, that is

then going to slip further south and and and eastwards into england and wales into the wales as we head into the afternoon, though, the afternoon, though, across the south—east here it's to south—east here it's likely to stay at least during the stay dry, at least during the daytime again. highs of daytime and mild again. highs of around 14 15 celsius. some around 14 or 15 celsius. some showers pushing in behind that front later on tuesday, but it's on wednesday where we get the heaviest rain likely to be pretty persistent and could cause some localised problems, especially in his south—west, where we do a warning as where we do have a warning as some disruption and some some travel disruption and some localised quite localised flooding is quite likely rain does clear likely that rain does clear through as we go into thursday. but weather to but more unsettled weather to come go through of come as we go through the end of the and into the weekend. the week and into the weekend. with dropping close with temperatures dropping close to the time of year , to normal for the time of year, a outlook with boxt a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on .

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nafion jacob rees—mogg on state of the nation tonight. russian opposition leader and activist alexei navalny is dead after being poisoned. and then sent to a siberian gulag for the crime of exposing vladimir putin's corruption. but today, the former president of russia warned the pariah state will drop nuclear bombs on kyiv, berlin, london and washington if it were forced to return to its pre—war borders. this is a war for civilisation that we must win. but the foreign office is typically wet. britain's mass migration is in a state of crisis, as it has emerged that 1 in 4 foreign care workers, tens of thousands of people abuse uk visa rules after an inspection revealed visas were being issued to care homes that don't exist . to care homes that don't exist. fresh school guidance has been announced in an attempt to restrict smart telephones in the classroom . i've decided to do classroom. i've decided to do some focus testing on the rees—mogg household, with results being released shortly. plus a mighty win for tradition. hurrah as the once in decline full fat milk, which really means creamy rather than watery milk, is making a resurgence. everyone knows that only