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the question should he be intervening in this way? we'll talk about the senior official from the border force who's now been sacked for revealing that hundreds of flights are coming into the united kingdom when nobody is being checked at all. yet many are deemed to be high risk and we'll look the risk and we'll look at the phenomenon particularly the phenomenon particularly in the north of england, young north of england, of young white kids to become kids converting to become muslims and wonder what that's all about. but before that show, let's get the news with polly middleton first. >> nigel. thank you and good evening to you. well, as you've been hearing, the chief inspector of borders and immigration has been sacked today after he was found to have breached the terms of his appointment and lost the confidence of james cleverly , confidence of james cleverly, the home secretary. david neil, said he'd received home office data showing that the uk border force had failed to check the occupants of hundreds of private jets arriving at london city airport , but the home office airport, but the home office disputed the claims , with the
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disputed the claims, with the minister for legal immigration, tom pursglove, insisting checks are performed on all scheduled passengers. he said it was deeply disturbing that the independent chief inspector leaked what he described as false information to a newspaper after reports were published in the daily mail. the home office says it's now investigating the so—called breach . a body was so—called breach. a body was found in the river thames, which detectives strongly believe. they say is that of chemical attack. suspect abdul ezedi. earlier police say they believed ezedi had gone into the river at chelsea bridge . that was based chelsea bridge. that was based on cctv evidence. well, the body was recovered by the metropolitan police's marine unit at around 4:00 yesterday afternoon after a report from the crew of a passing boat. his former partner, who was attacked alongside her two young daughters, remains in hospital but is no longer under sedation . but is no longer under sedation. now. prince william says fighting in the middle east
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between israel and hamas must end as soon as possible , adding end as soon as possible, adding that there is a desperate need for increased human korean support to gaza . the prince of support to gaza. the prince of wales said he's deeply concerned about what he called the terrible human cost of the conflict with too many lives lost , it follows lord cameron's lost, it follows lord cameron's warning to israel that the fighting needs to stop, and labour also calling for an immediate humanitarian ceasefire in a major shift on the party's stance on the war, shadow foreign secretary david lammy said earlier the world wants the fighting to stop now . birmingham fighting to stop now. birmingham city council says it needs a bailout worth £1.25 billion, as it looks to recover from effective bankrupt city. council leaders say a combination of austerity and underfunding has hit the city hard. they're looking at selling assets to cover some of the expenses , but cover some of the expenses, but residents are also facing cuts across essential services , across essential services, including adult social care , including adult social care, highway maintenance and assisted
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transport, dimming street lights is expected to save around £900,000 a year, while cutting refuse collections to every two weeks could also save 4 million a year . and weeks could also save 4 million a year. and lastly, weeks could also save 4 million a year . and lastly, the weeks could also save 4 million a year. and lastly, the prime minister says a new funding package for farmers will protect the country's food security and ensure fairer pricing for farmers. addressing the national farmers union conference in birmingham today, rishi sunak unveiled new funding to increase productivity and modernise technology such as robotics and solar power . technology such as robotics and solar power. he also pledged to cut red tape, he said, making it easier for farmers to develop new buildings or open farm shops is for the very latest stories, sign up for gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. com slash alerts. now back to . nigel. >> well, we've been a
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constitutional monarchy since the late 17th century, and of course, part of that deal is that the monarch or indeed the close immediate royal family should not interfere with politics, that in any way could be seen to affect individual parties. now perhaps one of the most classic cases in the 20th century was edward the eighth, who during his brief reign went down to merthyr tydfil in south wales, met thousands of people who'd lost their jobs in the steel industry . in fact, he steel industry. in fact, he shook so many hands. in the end, he had a change and shake with his left hand and he said something must be done to get these people jobs. it was taken as a direct assault on the conservative government of the day , and we can go on to edward day, and we can go on to edward heath . as many saw it using the heath. as many saw it using the queen to get us to join the common market and things the queen said during the referendum on scottish separation . and we, on scottish separation. and we, of course, could talk about king charles, who was prince of wales
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, endlessly talked about climate change and net zero. but the intervention overnight from prince william, i think, is the most direct political , political most direct political, political piece of interference that has international and global implications that i almost think we've ever seen . this is what we've ever seen. this is what prince william said , and i prince william said, and i remain deeply concerned about the terrible human cost of the conflict in the middle east since the hamas terrorist attack on october the 7th, too many have been killed, he said. i like so many others, want to see an end to the fighting as soon as possible. there is a desperate need for increased humanitarian support to gaza . humanitarian support to gaza. it's critical that aid gets in and that hostages are released. sometimes it is only when faced with the sheer scale of human suffering that the importance of permanent peace is brought home. even in the darkest hour. we must not succumb to the council of despair. i continue to cling to hope that a brighter to the hope that a brighter future can be found, and i
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refuse to give up on that. well, one good thing at he one good thing at least he mentioned hostages, because mentioned the hostages, because almost days seems almost no one these days seems to about the israeli to talk about the israeli israeli hostages that were taken on october 7, but for him to call for an immediate end to all fighting is going to be seen by many in the international community as absolutely clear evidence that prince william is saying to israel, stop what you're doing. some will see that as being given a free pass to hamas. many young people will say, hooray! he's doing the right thing. but whether he's doing the right thing or not, has he gone just too far with this ? should our future king this? should our future king intervene in this way? i don't believe that he should . i think believe that he should. i think he's making a very big mistake. love to get your thoughts, please. farage at gbnews.com. well i'm joined now by cameron walker, our royal correspondent for gb news and cameron . i have
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for gb news and cameron. i have to say, what does this broke a few hours ago . so what is the few hours ago. so what is the fallout been so far? well i think it's clearly become very contentious as many people onune contentious as many people online and indeed gb news viewers are disagreeing with prince william, saying he has gone too far and overstepped the mark. >> others are praising him and saying that he's it's important that he's made this in intervention, fighting for peace. it's an incredibly rare statement. i think it's incredibly bold of prince william to go quite so far. if you remember back to following the october 7th terrorist attack , his spokesperson released a statement where he talked about israel's right to exercise its right of self—defence. that was not included in the statements released by prince william today. of course, in the last few months, it's been it's become more and more polarising, more more contentious . but more and more contentious. but i'm getting the sense he really wants neutral yes, wants to be neutral here. yes, he for an end to the he calls for an end to the fighting in the israel—hamas conflict, also wants
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conflict, but he also wants hamas to release the terrorists and get critical aid into gaza. but of course, it's a really fine and tricky line to tread . fine and tricky line to tread. >> yeah , it is. of course it is. >> yeah, it is. of course it is. i mean, look, as i say, i'm pleased that he's mentioned the hostages. they seem to be forgotten by almost everybody these days. but you say he's trying to tread a fine line. well you know, why say anything? isuppose well you know, why say anything? i suppose in these circumstances , this is not something that directly affects the british crown indirectly , of course, the crown indirectly, of course, the implications are enormous. cameron. this will be interpreted in every way as him telling israel to stop what they are doing . are doing. >> yeah. and i think it's the timing that's really significant here. there's clearly fears that there's going to be an escalation in violence as israeli move into rafah, israeli forces move into rafah, the southern city in gaza, there's an snp led gaza ceasefire motion scheduled in the house of commons for tomorrow. but clearly his future king in a constitutional monarchy, he has to be
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politically neutral. but then the government comes out this afternoon , nigel, welcoming afternoon, nigel, welcoming prince william's intervention a downing street spokesperson says his message is consistent with the government's position and we welcome that information. it's important we speak with a voice with one voice as a nation . with one voice as a nation. royal sources tell me the foreign office was fully briefed before prince william made this statement and went the red statement and went to the red cross in london. so i'm cross today in london. so i'm getting the sense that the government prince government is using the prince of wales as a bit of an asset here. the power of soft diplomacy in action, whether or not makes a difference on not that makes a difference on the another thing, but the ground is another thing, but we'll wait and see. we'll have to wait and see. >> fair point cameron, thank you. and some would argue, of course, the king was used by rishi the so—called rishi sunak with the so—called windsor framework, but that's another story. i'm joined now by royal biographer tom bower , royal biographer tom bower, someone who studies this family , someone who studies this family, its behaviour and its motives , its behaviour and its motives, perhaps in more depth than almost anybody . tom, i have to almost anybody. tom, i have to say . i am as astonished by this
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say. i am as astonished by this statement . i think it shows statement. i think it shows a very serious lapse of judgement, perhaps wanting to follow what the trendy prevailing mood is. but as we know, those moods can change. what say you? well i think he's been very badly advised and i think it's quite appalling. >> i see the hand of lord cameron in all this, who somehow has shifted into the side of telling israel to stop to seek peace. but of course, what lord cameron doesn't understand is you can't have peace with hamas, which is dedicated to the destruction of israel and the murder of every jew , that murder of every jew, that israeli that lives in israel . israeli that lives in israel. there is no peace possible with people who are intent on the final solution. mark two. and so i think it's been a disaster for prince . william to get involved prince. william to get involved in this. i think that his officials in, in, in kensington palace should have warned him to stay out of it because it can only end badly. >> yeah. no, i share that view. but what you just said is very
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interesting that you sense the hand of lord cameron in all of this, and i just mentioned, as an aside, the way the king was used over the windsor framework agreements for northern ireland. i mean, you are suggesting that the royal family of today is prepared to be, shall we say, manipulated and by the government and its senior ministers. that is what you're saying. >> i'm saying that it probably doesn't want to be manipulated, but he didn't have advisors. thatis but he didn't have advisors. that is prince william, who told him have nothing to do with it. he have rejected the he should have rejected the request by lord cameron. whoever it was in the government, to make the speech there, because this on the of tomorrow's this is on the eve of tomorrow's debate. we've seen the labour party succumb to the pressure of the muslim vote . keir starmer the muslim vote. keir starmer has changed his stance because he fears a revolt in his own party. we're now heading to a very ugly situation in britain of rampant anti semitism, terrible muslim activities
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against jews and the palace should have stayed out of it, except they might have said that they're disgusted with the anti—semitism spreading across . anti—semitism spreading across. britain, but they haven't. they've urged peace. there is no peace with hamas. it is a terrorist organisation intent on destruction and murder. so what? on earth? prince william's advisers sort of adopt king lord cameron's view and the government's view. it beggars belief where this could end up . belief where this could end up. >> well, that's all well and good, tom. and i've heard this over the years, as you know, the queen or the king or now the prince of wales have been poorly advised. but you know, advisers advised. but you know, advisers advise us monarchs and princes of wales and ministers, whichever circumstance it is, they're the ones that make the decision and isn't saying, you know, perhaps you're being diplomatic by saying he's been badly advised . ultimately, this badly advised. ultimately, this is down to him. his own
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judgement isn't and what he wants. the monarchy to be. and that's the thing that i'm calling into question. >> i agree with you. of >> well, i agree with you. of course, the queen would never have said anything like this, and i even that and i don't even think that prince in most prince charles, in his most reckless interventions into politics, would have at this very moment, on the eve of the vote tomorrow, on the on the way, the united nations voted a day would have contributed to this debate. prince william should have been silent. nobody needs his contribution on this issue . and by intervening, he issue. and by intervening, he has made the whole problem far worse because he has politicised the whole issue as far as the monarchy is concerned. and he didn't say which is a great concern to many people in britain to stop the anti—semitic attacks in britain . but i must attacks in britain. but i must say the muslims and the far left and of course, the police have contributed terribly to this heightened tension by not stopping the demonstrators breaching speeching all their
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anti semitic or their racist chants every week in the centre of london. so what on earth is prince william doing getting involved in this very, very messy, controversial issue . messy, controversial issue. >> you've written books , tom >> you've written books, tom about are now king. you've written books about . harry um, written books about. harry um, is this behaviour from what you know, in keeping with william ? know, in keeping with william? is he somebody who seeks to be politically quite active . politically quite active. >> well, until now i would have thought not. that's what's so strange. that is extraordinary. this is a from what we this is a departure from what we expected. and we thought that he was a serious, considered person trying to learn the trade , so to trying to learn the trade, so to speak. what on earth he wants to get involved in the unbelievable turmoil of the middle east, and worst of all, the internecine war in the labour party and the terror on the streets of britain with the anti—semitism um, growing daily, i just don't
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understand. i do honestly think that he has very , very poor that he has very, very poor advisers who should have said to him, prince william , your him, prince william, your highness, you don't know enough about this subject. this isn't where you should step . where you should step. >> tom bower as ever, very, very clear . and >> tom bower as ever, very, very clear. and thank you. now a very senior minister, a very senior official in border force, has just been sacked within the last hour for telling the truth about how porous our borders are. should james cleverly, the home secretary, not really have just listened to him rather than simply sacking him because he's telling us that a huge number of private jets are coming into the uk with nobody being checked at
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listening to gb news radio . listening to gb news radio. >> well, some of your reactions to what prince william has said . to what prince william has said. muriel says prince william should not make his political
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viewpoints known to the public. meghan says agree william should not have given the pronouncement other than to hope for world peace. other than to hope for world peace . and graham says peace. and graham says i personally think he's done a good job in treading the fine line required. well, graham, if all you wanted to do was try to find line, why say anything ? and find line, why say anything? and i thought what tom bower said was very powerful, that it would be quite acceptable for the future monarch to say that these terrible anti—semitic attacks should cease. that would be completely in line with what he's there to do. um ultimately, when he's a bit older , to be a when he's a bit older, to be a king for everybody , this was king for everybody, this was a mistake. and it cannot . graham, mistake. and it cannot. graham, i disagree with you. yes he did mention the hostages. thank goodness for that. but this is a call on israel to stop. it's a call on israel to stop. it's a call on israel to stop. it's a call on israel to say, do you know what, hamas. we're done now. and i don't think that in the terme would do them any the long terme would do them any good at now, for the second good at all. now, for the second day in the chief day in a row, the chief inspector and inspector of borders and immigration, david neil, is in
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the news. yesterday it was the story, if you remember, that 1 in 4 of those who've come to britain on visas to work in the care sector are working illegally today , they a story he illegally today, they a story he put out front page of the mail saying saying that under the terms general aviation, which means private jets , it's a very means private jets, it's a very large number of jets, many, many hundreds into thousands come into the country with nobody being checked. what's so ever and that this does pose a potential very serious threat. neil said. this is a scandal and incredibly dangerous for this country's border security . given country's border security. given that many of those flights that come in come from what are deemed to be high risk countries, the finger was particularly pointed at london's city airport. now for his trouble, he has been sacked. now it's fair to say he was due to go in a month's time.
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it's fair to say he was due to go in a month's time . he could go in a month's time. he could have reapplied for the job, but james cleverly has has sacked him because he's broken the normal terms of his contract. but i have to say mr cleverly , but i have to say mr cleverly, rather than sacking mr neil, maybe what you should be doing is listening to the fact that the independent chief inspector of our borders has now, for two days in a row, told us that things are not working , that the things are not working, that the whole thing is a farce bordering on disgrace. and we're told he's got many, many more documents to reveal. so what do we make of all of this? well, i think it's all of this? well, i think it's a bit of a disaster. i'm joined by matthew finn, chief executive of augment iq. by matthew finn, chief executive of augment iq . and your of augment iq. and your business, matthew , is to, you business, matthew, is to, you know, see that we can move around the world as freely as we reasonably can whilst maintaining a degree of security, all of which makes
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sense and what do you make of what david neil told the daily mail and the story they put on their front page? does it ring true to you? because tom pursglove , the illegal pursglove, the illegal immigration minister, says no , immigration minister, says no, no, no, these flights are being checked. what's your experience of this? >> oh, well , it does ring true, >> oh, well, it does ring true, nigel. and i think what's interesting in this story is the timing of it . um, those of us timing of it. um, those of us that have been working in border security for some time will recognise this as something we've heard before. this is not particularly new. um, general aviation has always been seen as perhaps one of the more vulnerable points in the international travel segment. commercial aviation , an commercial aviation, an international high speed rail, cruise lines, ferries, etc. they are much more robust . um, back are much more robust. um, back in the early 2000, the government of the day was trying to put in place a program to address some of the border security concerns that they had. uh, 15, 16 years ago. and general aviation was one of
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those concerns then. so i think the timing of it is interesting , the timing of it is interesting, the timing of it is interesting, the vulnerability , uh, is, has, the vulnerability, uh, is, has, has existed for some time. this is not particularly . new. is not particularly. new. >> just explain to our audience what general aviation looks like i >> -- >> so most of, uh, most, most of the audience, myself included, will be very familiar with, uh, commercial aviation getting on board a plane, flying out from london city airport, gatwick , london city airport, gatwick, etc. um, and we do that on a regular basis for leisure or for business. uh, general aviation are the much smaller aircraft, uh, essentially private charters or private jets . that come in or private jets. that come in and out of the country with very few people on board. and what we're seeing here in what david neil has revealed is a different approach to border security for those flights. so we must ask the question on what basis do we determine risk in the security field , particularly when it
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field, particularly when it comes to the uk border ? why are comes to the uk border? why are we viewing certain private jets? general aviation coming into the uk as lower or higher risk and why are we not screening them accordingly? we >> but if i fly on a private aeroplane, a private jet from america or europe into the uk, it is the duty, is it not, out of that pilot and perhaps co—pilot to report to the united kingdom, who is on board that plane, that that that i, as i understand it, plane, that that that i, as i understand it , that has to be understand it, that has to be done. understand it, that has to be done . so presumably if names are done. so presumably if names are being submitted and if, for example , at city airport, those example, at city airport, those that land by private jet are made to walk through the passport hall along with everybody else, i mean, surely this can be resolved very easily . we it can certainly be resolved. >> uh, there are different techniques to doing it. and you're right to highlight that the operator of that private aircraft, it would normally be
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provided a general aviation report, which would include the full manifest of passengers full manifest of all passengers and crew board. and that and crew on board. and that manifest would include your name, date of birth, gender, passport number, etc. where there becomes an issue is the, uh, integrity of that data. do we trust it? was it just written up or did they actually check the validity of the document? is it a genuine document that they were copying the names and numbers from ? yeah, that's one numbers from? yeah, that's one question we should ask ourselves . was the person who presented it actually the person to whom it actually the person to whom it was issued? were they the genuine holder of that document and more specifically, how long does border force or any of the security services have in terms of time to effect some kind of mitigation or response? if they believe that someone on board that aircraft is deemed of higher risk , how would they go higher risk, how would they go about doing that ? if they're about doing that? if they're just receiving an excel spreadsheet but perhaps poorly formatted only two hours before that flight departs ?
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that flight departs? >> but i just as i say, i find this whole thing really matthew quite incredible because these are not flights landing at some obscure little airfield where there might not be permanent border force staff. >> we're talking here about sydney airport, which carries a huge number of passengers every single year. you know, they will have staffing. they will have border force staffing. there there. so surely, surely , surely there. so surely, surely, surely all you need to do is make the private jets walk through the same room . this can be resolved same room. this can be resolved and i want to know why it hasn't been. >> i think you're right to highlight that. um, obviously general aviation applies to many airfields around the country, some of which do not have that kind of infrastructure, but for the specific of london the specific example of london city airport. um, you're right to highlight that there is the time and the opportunity for passengers arriving from whichever destination on a private aircraft to proceed through some form of border control , all under the
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control, all under the supervision of the home office. now, that could be an e—gate. and we've seen many of those around most of the airports in the that would determine the uk, and that would determine that document was genuine, that the document was genuine, that the document was genuine, that passport was the that the passport holder was the right it would be right person, and it would be able to wash that against the warnings index in the uk to determine if that person was a good or a bad person based on previous understandings their previous understandings of their risk . so it does beg the risk. so it does beg the question when we look at the specific example of london city airport, is the arrivals airport, why is the arrivals process different if you're arriving on a different type of aircraft ? aircraft? >> absolutely . matthew finn, >> absolutely. matthew finn, thank you for joining >> absolutely. matthew finn, thank you forjoining us and thank you for joining us and giving your level of expertise as and matthew, for directly contradicting tom pursglove, the illegal immigration minister, and this just goes on and on, doesn't it? the government reassuring us all is, well, nothing to worry about. and it is frankly a farce. well, today a big nfu national farmers union conference and for the first time since 2008, a british prime
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minister has gone along to speak to the nation's farmers . and to the nation's farmers. and he's done it, of course, because of the growing protests in kent and wales. and who knows where else. in a moment, we'll tell you what rishi had to say
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radio. for nearly half a century, british farming wasn't run by elected british politicians . politicians. >> good lord. no, no, that was all done in brussels under the common agri cultural policy. well, now we've left the european union. we're in charge of our own agricultural policy much more indeed than we are in terms of its cousin fisheries and that is, in a way, why you're seeing protests, because what they're doing in dover and what they're doing in dover and what they've been doing in wales this week, you know, they can have a direct effect on people who are making the laws and the rules by which farming is being governed . now, today, there's a
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governed. now, today, there's a big national farmers union conference taking place after a week of these protests taking place in birmingham and for the first time since 2008, a prime minister has gone along to this conference. that's how worried he is, not just about the protests, but about the polling that was out last week , saying that was out last week, saying that was out last week, saying that of the 100 most rural seats which the conservatives currently hold, 96, they could lose up to 50 of them to the labour party . that is why rishi labour party. that is why rishi sunak was there . let's have sunak was there. let's have a listen to what he had to say. >> unlike the labour party , we >> unlike the labour party, we will never introduce mandatory requirements to put a percentage of your land into schemes, nor will we introduce broad ranging blanket rules like top down 20 mile an hour mandates. blanket rules like top down 20 mile an hour mandates . with us, mile an hour mandates. with us, you'll have more choice, not less . you can trust us because i less. you can trust us because i know how important my neighbours
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are . farmers, all of you truly are. farmers, all of you truly are. farmers, all of you truly are. you help support millions ofjobs are. you help support millions of jobs , add billions to our of jobs, add billions to our economy, shape the landscape. but most of all, you produce the food we need. food that is some of the best and highest quality anywhere in the world. and that's why i say to all of you and to britain's farmers, just as i did in my very first speech in parliament. i've got your back clap rishi sunak tell all the audience what they want to hean >> tell the audience we're on your side. we're conservatives , your side. we're conservatives, and forget about the track record. well, let's have a start , shall we? we would never tell you how you should manage your land. good lord. no let's go back two years to the conservative party conference and boris johnson , we are going and boris johnson, we are going to rewrite old parts of the country and consecrate a total of 30% to nature, where planting tens of millions of trees ,
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tens of millions of trees, otters are returning to rivers from which they have been absent for decades. >> beavers that have not been seen on some rivers since tudor times massacred for their pelts and now back. and if that isn't conservative ism, my friends, i don't know what is . bill back don't know what is. bill back beaven don't know what is. bill back beaver, i say. >> oh dear , oh dear, oh dear. >> oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. there he was saying he wanted to rewild 30% of the farmland in the country, build back beaver. god help us. um, and of course, says rishi, we would never as conservatives no , never impose conservatives no, never impose 20 mile per hour blank measures inside built up areas. 20 mile per hour blank measures inside built up areas . really, inside built up areas. really, really . are you telling the really. are you telling the truth, prime minister? have you forgotten about cornwall? yes the unitary authority in cornwall can run have. just introduce it in the last few months, 20 mile an hour limit zones across the entire shire
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county. folks, i don't believe a bloomin word. this bloke says. it's all spin . it's all telling it's all spin. it's all telling people what he thinks they want to hear. but i wonder how it's gone down with the national farmers union and i'm joined now by jack carson, gb news reporter jack , look, um, you know, you jack, look, um, you know, you know , as you can see, he's doing know, as you can see, he's doing his best to come along and talk to an audience and yes, subsidy. you know , subsidy now does come you know, subsidy now does come from the british government not from the british government not from brussels. has he convinced them ? well it's really them? well it's really interesting topic of course. >> uh, nigel. of course . he made >> uh, nigel. of course. he made some big commitments in the room today, didn't he, in terms of new grant funding, in terms of trying to meet food security, which is a particularly a big issue for many of the farmers here. the actual national farmers union conference making those commitments in the room today, trying to get people on side. a lot of the farmers i've spoken to, of course, they realise he wants their votes, doesn't looking for,
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doesn't he? he's looking for, of course, support. as we course, their support. as we head into the inevitable general election over the next 12 months. but let's get some more analysis, we, of how analysis, shall we, of how exactly speech down exactly that speech went down today with meredith, today with andrew meredith, who's farmers who's the editor of farmers weekly. thank you much for weekly. thank you very much for joining us this evening. how do you feel sunak speech went down today with farmers in the room. i think what most people were saying to me is that they he basically met minimum expectations . expectations. >> he came with something to say. he has some commitments to make. emote and show make. he tried to emote and show that understood farmers that he understood what farmers were through, but at the were going through, but at the end of the day, there's a lot of farmers out there that are feeling like their livelihoods are under threat, and i'm not sure assuaged those sure that he assuaged those concerns . concerns. >> of course, he did make some big funding commitments. there was some opposition in the room that just money, that this is just old money, you know, rebranded , rehashed into know, rebranded, rehashed into something new. so what more does he need to commit to get these people side? people on side? >> look in england have that >> look in england you have that £2.4 which has been £2.4 billion, which has been a manifesto commitment since 2019 to on farming in the
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to spend on farming in the environment . so there to spend on farming in the environment. so there is no money beyond that being committed today. that is just new ways to spend that same budget. so if rishi had really wanted to make an impact today, he committed that he could have committed that in the . he as the manifesto. he would as nearly every farming and environmental lobby group are asking, he could have committed to increasing that budget. some are for 4 billion, some are asking for 4 billion, some are asking for 4 billion, some are asking for more. and look, farmers as well as farmers understand as well as anybody that everybody asking anybody that everybody is asking for now. but the cost for more right now. but the cost of the transition is going of the green transition is going to be enormous. and it is not credible. at 2.4 billion that they are going to have enough spending power to meet their targets. think of targets. i don't think of course, been seeing the course, we've been seeing the protests, course, we've been seeing the protestthe continent, in france, >> on the continent, in france, in germany. recently, in germany. well, recently, today poland and greece, today in poland and greece, we've already seen them at the port dover. how concerned are port of dover. how concerned are you? are you concerned that these do you think that these are going to into are going to develop into something more here in something more serious here in the! think got something more serious here in the i think got to something more serious here in the! think got to think >> i think you've got to think about policy now in about farming policy now in devolved because as every devolved terms, because as every nafion devolved terms, because as every nation , it's nation is different, it's a devolved issue for food and
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farming policy. so i would say the are most and the welsh are the most angry and most upset with the direction their government is going in. so there's more likely to be tractors streets of tractors on the streets of cardiff is on london. tractors on the streets of carc across is on london. tractors on the streets of carc across the is on london. tractors on the streets of carc across the uk is on london. tractors on the streets of carcacross the uk ,; on london. tractors on the streets of carcacross the uk , i)n london. tractors on the streets of carcacross the uk , i do _ondon. tractors on the streets of carcacross the uk , i do notion. but across the uk, i do not think there has been a time in a long time where farmers have felt about their felt so uncertain about their future. i think like my future. i think farmers like my friends nick and karis grayson, tenant farmers, they are asking themselves whether they will have a to business hand on to their boys in the way that they inherited a business from nick's family and they are just symptomatic of farmers, right across the uk now. across the uk right now. >> and what you mentioned there is, this welsh farm, is, of course, this welsh farm, sustainable farming scheme. that is , you know, the way is of course, you know, the way of, of giving up land essentially for more sustainable projects. and with wales it is minimum entry requirements to be able to get that funding. it's minimum requirements of giving up land for for those up land for those for those projects . and that's where the projects. and that's where the anger comes from. in fact, you know, minette batters today was in speech that there in her speech said that there could to 5500 losses,
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could be up to 5500 job losses, hundreds of of pounds hundreds of millions of pounds lost from farming in wales. if this scheme was ahead . this scheme was to go ahead. >> that's exactly right. and if farmers are more farmers in wales are more reliant on government funding on average, than farmers in england, and yet the government in pursuing in wales seems to be pursuing a higher threshold in future for farmers to meet the criteria whereby they are eligible for those those funds. so for farmers there are very cross they say they are the cornerstone of the rural economy. if they are going to crumble, then all of the farms and rural goods and services, the businesses that surround them , they will crumble too. so them, they will crumble too. so this is an attack not just on farmers , but on the rural farmers, but on the rural economy and the farming unions there. and the protesters there. there's nascent protest organisations is they really want to see a relaxation on that commitment , that requirement in commitment, that requirement in the consultation at the moment for farmers to have 10% of their land in trees and 10% of their land in trees and 10% of their land in trees and 10% of their land in habitat right now, environmentalists say of course, that if the government is going to spend money, then they need
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to spend money, then they need to see a return for it. so there is a real live debate happening at the moment about how that money should be spent . money should be spent. >> you so much for >> andrew, thank you so much for joining evening to give joining us. this evening to give us what us some of that rundown of what has of here in has gone on. of course, here in birmingham at the national farmers conference, pretty farmers union conference, pretty much, say, to sum up, much, i'd say, to nigel, sum up, the jury's out very much the jury's still out very much on these farmers more on who these farmers trust. more of course, bring back british of course, to bring back british farming heading towards that general election . general election. >> jack carson , thank you very >> jack carson, thank you very much indeed. and i have to say, i thought andrew meredith there from farmers weekly was, how can i underwhelm claimed by i put it? underwhelm claimed by the prime minister's performance today. hey he's got real problems now . but what the problems now. but what the farage moment you may remember back on the 4th of january, we sent adam cherry from gb news down to hampshire to farnborough in hampshire , where some really in hampshire, where some really rather nice new apartments have been built. they looked really beautiful. the thought was they'd be up for private rental, but no, no, no, the home office or one of the companies they use
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had intervened. and these were going to be used for migrant accommodation . and we kicked up accommodation. and we kicked up accommodation. and we kicked up a bit of a stink and we did our best to to leo docherty, best to talk to leo docherty, a local conservative member of parliament, blank parliament, who point blank refused to speak to us. but we did quite a lot work on it. did quite a lot of work on it. and office then said and the home office then said no, would not be moving no, migrants would not be moving in there. announced that in there. they announced that just few days later when , just a few days later when, well, over the course of the last week, there have been some considerable activity around these flats as people have spotted duvets , pillows, spotted duvets, pillows, furniture , other items being furniture, other items being moved into the apartments. so we've got it on video footage. you can look at it and see it right now and of course, we've been back to the home office to ask them, you know what is going on here? and the response we've got is the home office continually reviews the appropriateness of different sites for use as asylum accommodation. we have always been upfront about the unprecedented pressure. obviously, reading the rest of
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it out really, is that i mean, you know, what's going to happen. you know that actually those that have crossed the channel get put channel are going to get put into and that's it, into these flats and that's it, because to because they're now pledged to reduce the numbers, staying in hotels . so they'll be going into hotels. so they'll be going into in this case brand spanking new apartments. as for leo docherty , apartments. as for leo docherty, the local mp, who you would have thought would be very grateful to gb news for shining a light on this issue , he still on this issue, he still absolutely point blank refuses to speak to us. it's funny, isn't it? just how low grade some of our members of parliament seem to have become . parliament seem to have become. not, of course, that that comment applies directly, you understand, to mr docherty now , understand, to mr docherty now, in a moment, a story that really did surprise me. some video footage emerging from oldham of a young eight year old white british kid convert waiting to become a muslim, praising allah, but apparently this is going on. on quite a considerable scale across the country. one on earth
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is going on. we'll have a look at it just
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break. >> so the piece of footage you're about to see on your screen came to my attention this morning and did ever so slightly surprise me. >> and it's a scene from oldham andifs >> and it's a scene from oldham and it's a young boy under ten years old who is converting to islam and it finished up with you're a muslim, rudy cheers the man as he hugs the child whose hand he has held throughout a short ceremony at a lancashire mosque. an and then the young kid says nothing worthy of worship, but allah and muhammad is his message for now. i was slightly surprised that a young white kid did this, but this particular priest is claiming
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that in the area of lancashire, up to 30,000 people have converted over the last period of time to become muslims. now i can't verify any of those numbers, but it does appear that it is happening on a scale. nothing suggest that lots of those converting are youngsters like this boy, but something out there is going on as indeed we know in our prisons we've seen many , many people convert to many, many people convert to islam. so i wonder what's the appeal or or is there somehow pressure being put on? certainly in prisons it's quite easy to see, given that the church of england and others have given up providing any spiritual leadership whatsoever. maybe islam does fill something of a vacuum, but there is there something bigger and wider going on within society? is it all free choice, or could there be
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elements perhaps , of peer elements perhaps, of peer pressure or intimidate in pushing people in this direction? and i wonder , given direction? and i wonder, given that everybody, including prince william, now seems to be saying that the israelis are bad guys , that the israelis are bad guys, whether there is potential for this to increase? well, i'm joined down the line from the netherlands by charlotte littlewood, head of research at the international centre for sustainability and charlotte. i was a little bit surprised to read all of that stuff today and to see that this is going on, perhaps on a considerable scale, difficult for us to actually measure it. but i just wonder initially what your thoughts are on that as a big picture . on that as a big picture. >> well, first of all, i wouldn't be so surprised . um, i wouldn't be so surprised. um, i think in an increasingly globalised world where we have so much access to information at all times , often that feeling all times, often that feeling very negative , people do feel very negative, people do feel lost . they do search for lost. they do search for something that gives them structure and meaning . and islam
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structure and meaning. and islam as well as christianity can be a very strong source of that for people. so i think conversions are absolutely predictable. i also , i don't think there's also, i don't think there's anything wrong with young people converting at all. converting to islam at all. quite the opposite. but i do have concerns . about some of the have concerns. about some of the key converters, if you will, that have come out that they've converted 30,000 plus and these have been the likes of shaquille begg. and then as you've just said, the discussions around prisons, the radicalisation in prisons, the radicalisation in prisons , i would call it not prisons, i would call it not conversion. and think have conversion. and i think you have to religious to separate that religious conversion um, and conversion into a faith. um, and radicalisation into islamist extremism are two different things that are happening . so in things that are happening. so in a sense, what you're saying, charlotte, is that, you know, islam provides a certain degree of belief . of belief. >> if a certain degree of conviction, in a certain degree of sure , gritty, um, perhaps in of sure, gritty, um, perhaps in a world where in this country , a world where in this country, anyway, under archbishop welby, the church of england is now
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completely failing to give out any of those sorts strong, positive messages . and i fully positive messages. and i fully understand and take on board that point. but is there or is there evidence and i'm just speculating, you know, by the way, i'm not saying there's anything wrong with people converting to islam. i just asking why and how. so is there perhaps evidence , you know, if, perhaps evidence, you know, if, for example , you were a young for example, you were a young white kid in a school that was overwhelmingly muslim , there may overwhelmingly muslim, there may well be considerable peer pressure to do this as well . pressure to do this as well. >> i think we know that that's the case in prisons. again, if we bring back to that case study where there is gang pressure to convert and you get protected , convert and you get protected, if you then are part of islam . if you then are part of islam. um, i'm not sure about the school setting where i would be concerned is the likes of shaquille begg, who has said that he has converted 30,000 and he lost . his
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that he has converted 30,000 and he lost. his case against the bbc for being called an extremist in 2006. he talked about palestine being a legitimate place forjihad. legitimate place for jihad. again, he talked about removing zionists from israel . in 2008 zionists from israel. in 2008 and year on and year on, and he has celebrated key islamist ideologues, founders of the muslim brotherhood and jamaat e islami . and he's basically your islami. and he's basically your host . oyster, uh, boy of host. oyster, uh, boy of islamist radical ism here in the uk. um so i would be very concerned about directions into islam via the likes of shaquille begg. there we have an issue. um, that's where i would say we have a real home grown radicalisation issue. but conversions more generally, it does to, think, does speak to, i think, a retreating if we're retreating church. if we're seeing more into islam and christianity that there's christianity again, that there's no that . um, but no problem with that. um, but there there is a problem. if we're talking about radicalisation and not conversion . conversion. >> no . do you feel charlotte and >> no. do you feel charlotte and it's a huge question that needs an hour's debate, not a one
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minute answer, but do you feel ultimately that in two, three, 4 or 5 years time that that the muslim faith is going sit muslim faith is going to sit comfortably and most our comfortably and most of our country the christian country alongside the christian faith , you mean sit . comfortably faith, you mean sit. comfortably alongside in size, in numbers, or comfortably alongside without conflict , without conflict ? conflict, without conflict? >> um , not if we continue to >> um, not if we continue to allow for extremism , um, to allow for extremism, um, to manifest in this country , there manifest in this country, there is opportunities for, for, uh, liberal islam. there is always opportunities for reform. there are key reformists working in the uk. um, and there is moderate islam, not just not just liberal islam, there's moderate islam, but what we have done and we continue to do is allow for an extremist section of islam to take what islam is , of islam to take what islam is, to take positions of authority , to take positions of authority, organisations of authority and influence , even within influence, even within parliament. and that's where we have a real problem of failing and we've continued to in and we've continued to fail in that. guard i'm that. in that regard. guard i'm afraid that's right . afraid that's right.
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>> charlotte littlewood, thank you very much indeed for joining me again on this program on gb news and indeed, suella braverman in the last couple of days has come out and spoken very openly, saying, look, we're actually, you know, we are allowing extremist allowing extremism and extremist language our streets . and it language on our streets. and it would appear the subtext of what she's saying is the police do precious about it. it is precious little about it. it is going to be very difficult in years to come to see how this goes on without there being very serious conflict and already it is rocking the british electoral politics. it is absolutely shaking the labour party to its core as we witness for the first time ever in our lives in england. certainly sectarianism, genuine sectarianism in our politics. maybe there were little pockets of it in liverpool and elsewhere in the past, i don't know, but i've never seen it the way that it is and the speed with which it seems to have spread throughout our system . now, as you may see our system. now, as you may see from the background, i'm in
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washington, today. i'm going from the background, i'm in wibe ngton, today. i'm going from the background, i'm in wibe inton, today. i'm going from the background, i'm in wibe in america oday. i'm going from the background, i'm in wibe in america foriy. i'm going from the background, i'm in wibe in america for the m going from the background, i'm in wibe in america for the rest)ing from the background, i'm in wibe in america for the rest ofg to be in america for the rest of the week, and we're going to introduce tomorrow rather introduce from tomorrow rather more but for more american themes. but for now, i wonder what does sir jacob rees—mogg have for you in a few minutes time? well thank you very much, and i hope you're enjoying united states. enjoying the united states. >> talking about >> i'm going to be talking about the attack on private property that's going on in this country with the renters reform bill and with the renters reform bill and with the renters reform bill and with the rule that you're going to get planning to have to get planning permission to let house permission in to let your house out on airbnb . out or flat out on airbnb. >> um, yeah. >> um, yeah. >> no very good subjects. jacob, to cover . because if we if we to cover. because if we if we believe in freedom and property rights and all of those things and all of which makes me scratch my head that it is a so—called conservative government that has done all of these things, but no doubt jacob will cover all of that with you in a few moments time. i'm back with you tomorrow live from here in at seven, but for in washington at seven, but for now, get the weather looks now, let's get the weather looks like things are heating up boxt boilers sponsors of weather on .
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boilers sponsors of weather on. gb news. >> hello. very good evening to you. i'm alex burkill and here's your latest gb news weather forecast. it is going to be widely very wet for most of us tomorrow however, tomorrow morning. however, before still some before then we still have some rain this evening and rain around this evening and overnight, across overnight, particularly across parts the south as a front parts of the south as a front has made way southwards. has made its way southwards. as we've today and is we've gone through today and is going to linger across southern parts the night, parts through the night, bringing cloudy, wet weather here, skies further here, clearer skies further north at least to start the night before. some cloudy, wet and windy conditions feed up from the southwest. like i said, some clear skies to start the night in the north and so we could see a touch of frost for a time before the unsettled weather its way in. weather pushes its way in. lifting our temperatures. so most places will start tomorrow. mild, but wet. watch out for some heavy rain. could cause some heavy rain. could cause some the roads and some spray on the roads and we're likely to see a bit of flooding and some travel disruption, in parts disruption, especially in parts of the southwest. however the rain will clear away towards the east as we go through the day with drier
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with something drier and brighter in behind . brighter following in behind. just a few showers to watch out for there. is going for here and there. it is going to windy though, and so that to be windy though, and so that wind take edge off the wind will take the edge off the temperatures are above temperatures which are above average time of year. average for the time of year. more unsettled come more unsettled weather to come through the end of the week, likely another of likely to see another band of rain its way through on rain sweeping its way through on thursday. that could be thursday. and that could be quite downpours quite heavy. some downpours possible with showers likely elsewhere and more showers to come as we go through friday, it's to be bit blustery it's likely to be a bit blustery at times but there should at times too, but there should be sunshine in into be some sunshine in between into saturday and it looks a little bit drier, but temperatures dropping closer to average for the year. a brighter the time of year. a brighter outlook with solar sponsors outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on .
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gb news. >> hello. good evening . it's me, >> hello. good evening. it's me, jacob rees—mogg on state of the nafion jacob rees—mogg on state of the nation . tonight, the nation. tonight, the conservative government has once again reached for the spool of
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red tape and is set to bring in even more planning regulations for britain's homeowners. the restrictive planning system is the of britain's housing the cause of britain's housing crisis, the solution . after crisis, not the solution. after yesterday's news revealing 1 in 4 foreign care workers breaches their visa rules, this afternoon, the government sacked the chief border inspector, who revealed the story . but 13 revealed the story. but 13 similar reports remain unpublished. the culture secretary has warned against the burgeoning phenomenon of trigger warnings for victims. so far have been james bond, roald dahl have been james bond, roald dahl, even william shakespeare and pg. wodehouse. heaven help us. but will woke publishers take any notice? plus special investigations editor at the daily mail , investigations editor at the daily mail, sue reed, has revealed the extent of child conversions to islam in the uk. but isn't this what the christian churches should be doing? winning converts, state of the nation starts now.
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