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extremist them? the government's prevent programme prioritises tackling right wing terrorism over the main threat of islamist extremism. that's the claim of a new report . is the public being new report. is the public being put at risk and respect the menopause. >> employers could be sued for disability discrimination if they fail to make adjustments for menopausal women, says the equalities watchdog . but is this equalities watchdog. but is this special treatment for females? >> an update to bring you now on the, uh , concerning situation the, uh, concerning situation for the speaker in the house of commons, the number of mps who've signed up to this motion of no confidence has hit 59. now, for context , at the start now, for context, at the start of this morning, it was on 33. >> yes, it's very interesting how it's definitely growing in momentum. the speaker is not in a good position. he did apologise and said that he did
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this for all mps safety , perhaps this for all mps safety, perhaps labour mps claiming that they feel intimidated. what does that say about our state of democracy 7 say about our state of democracy ? i'm concerned that potentially the speaker changed the rules of convention in order to appease extremist voices. that is a real, real worry . real, real worry. >> we saw yesterday, of course, that the clerk of the house said that the clerk of the house said that what the speaker chose to do giving all of this time do in giving all of this time and giving this what some might say, treatment to say, preferential treatment to the labour party, was in the labour party, that was in contravention something the labour party, that was in contraistanding something the labour party, that was in contraistanding orderthing the labour party, that was in contraistanding order 31,1g the labour party, that was in contraistanding order 31, where called standing order 31, where if the reason why he did that was because there were baying crowds outside an mps are fearing for their safety. are we changing the rules? just to sort of in response to threats of violence ? violence? >> well, it's appeasement if thatis >> well, it's appeasement if that is the case. you can't change the rules in parliament because they're allowed baying mobs outside westminster and because mps are getting threats and they are. this is a real threat that mps have. they're constantly being bombarded with
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threats and this cannot go on. but also, did the speakerjust do this because he wants to keep his job? if there's a labour government, there is that to suggestions that labour would turfbut more that and >> but much more on that and indeed some spicy goings on in the commons, which indeed some spicy goings on in the bring commons, which indeed some spicy goings on in the bring to zommons, which indeed some spicy goings on in the bring to you nons, which indeed some spicy goings on in the bring to you nons,your h we'll bring to you after your headunes. headlines. >> tom, thank you very much. and good afternoon. your top stories from the gb newsroom . the from the gb newsroom. the speaker of the house of commons is calls resign is facing calls to resign following debate on gaza last following a debate on gaza last night, 59 snp and tory mps have now signed a no confidence motion against sir lindsay hoyle after he allowed a labour amendment to an snp motion calling for an immediate humanitarian ceasefire. the break from convention sparked fury in the house, with commons leader penny mordaunt claiming he'd hijacked the debate. labour's national campaign coordinator, pat mcfadden , coordinator, pat mcfadden, defended the speaker, saying his position shouldn't be under
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threat . threat. >> got the highest respect for mr speaker and i feel bad for him today because he's taking the blame and apologising for a situation that he couldn't have foreseen when he took that decision. who would have thought that the government of the day didn't even have the numbers on its own side? on a foreign policy proposal , and that their policy proposal, and that their decision to withdraw from the debate would effectively crater the plan that the speaker had put together to make sure that all three propositions could be voted on in a joint operation . voted on in a joint operation. >> the uk and jordan have delivered aid to a hospital in northern gaza . the british northern gaza. the british funded package was delivered by the jordanian air force . the jordanian air force. suppues the jordanian air force. supplies include essential medicines , fuel and food for medicines, fuel and food for patients and staff, with the foreign secretary, lord cameron, saying it will help thousands of people. it's part of an agreement signed by the uk this week to deliver £1 million of aid to gaza . households could
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aid to gaza. households could see their energy bills fall to the lowest level in two years. energy regulator ofgem is due to announce the latest price cap tomorrow, with experts predicting it will drop by £293 a year. that would see the average household bill falling by 15% from just over £1,900 a year to £1,635 from the 1st of april. employers could be sued if they don't make reasonable adjustments for menopausal women in the workplace. the equalities watchdog has issued guidance to companies to clarify their legal obugafions. companies to clarify their legal obligations . symptoms include obligations. symptoms include hot flushes , brain fog and hot flushes, brain fog and difficulty sleeping , which can difficulty sleeping, which can be considered a disability under the 2010 equality act. if it impacts the women's ability to carry out usual day to day activities . women's health activities. women's health minister maria caulfield says adjustments like letting women work from home can really help. >> we are losing women in the workplace to symptoms of the menopause, but my experience i meet lots and lots of employers up and down the country. we're
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talking about women at the peak of with lots of their career, women with lots of their career, women with lots of experience who are then struggling menopausal struggling with menopausal symptoms. employers i speak symptoms. most employers i speak to actually want to keep women in workplace and are asking in the workplace and are asking for to that. for help and how to do that. that's a government, that's why, as a government, we've our first we've taken on our first menopause champion . menopause employment champion. simple things proper simple things like proper ventilation in the workplace, even material of uniforms even the material of uniforms that women wear at work makes a difference . difference. >> parents who lose a baby before 24 weeks of pregnancy in england can now receive a certificate in recognition of their loss, the scheme is designed to acknowledge the grief of parents who experienced this . the new certificates will this. the new certificates will be official but not legal documents and their optional people in scotland can already apply to have losses recorded in the memorial book of pregnancy and baby loss prior to 24 weeks, all parents affected since september 2018 can apply . police september 2018 can apply. police chiefs are calling for new powers to allow them to instantly ban drink or drug
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drivers at the side of the road. they say it would allow them to take drivers who pose a risk to others off the road immediately. currently drivers charged with drug or drink driving offences are banned following a sentencing hearing in court, but that can take weeks during which time are allowed to get time drivers are allowed to get back the wheel . the back behind the wheel. the national police chiefs council for roads policing also want tougher punishments for drivers who under the influence, who kill under the influence, including potential murder charges . and brazilian charges. and brazilian footballer dani alves has been jailed for four and a half years for raping a woman in a nightclub. the incident happened in barcelona two years ago. he denied sexual assault, claiming it was consensual. denied sexual assault, claiming it was consensual . the former it was consensual. the former defender was also ordered to pay almost £130,000 to the victim. his lawyer says he'll appeal the decision . for the latest stories decision. for the latest stories , sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. common alerts . now back to tom screen or go to gb news. common alerts. now back to tom and .
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emily >> house of commons speaker sir lindsay hoyle is fighting to save his political career this afternoon as 59 mps so far have signed a motion of no confidence in him . this, following the in him. this, following the chaos that engulfed the house of commons yesterday evening . commons yesterday evening. >> yes, the speaker is to meet with party leaders after accusations he broke with convention to allow to labour huack convention to allow to labour hijack the snp's debate on gaza with their own amendment. when all there is a lot to digest here. >> but before we do , we should >> but before we do, we should rest really on what has precisely happened yesterday . precisely happened yesterday. the commons descended into chaos and some people argue that this is because the speaker chose to change the rules out of fear of violent intimidation from some of those pro palestinian palestinian protesters . palestinian protesters. >> well, yes, he said, it was on behalf of those mps because they're facing intimidation. lots of mps seem to be talking about this. there's
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about this. suddenly there's been silence on this been a bit of a silence on this issue from some quarters, not least the party. but now least the labour party. but now it like there more it seems like there are more and more talking about how more mps talking about how extremist could actually extremist voices could actually be affecting democracy in the decisions our politicians are making, which is no good thing. should we speak to political? oh, sorry, was just going to oh, sorry, i was just going to say there are also serious allegations that senior labour say there are also serious allegatthreaten senior labour say there are also serious allegat threaten the ior labour say there are also serious allegat threaten the speakerjr say there are also serious allegat threaten the speaker to figures threaten the speaker to lose his job if he didn't go along with them, but let's get the juicy details now with our political editor, christopher hope, who's in westminster hall for christopher , where for us, and christopher, where you now . you are how. >> you are now. >> last night was bedlam . >> last night was bedlam. >> last night was bedlam. >> yes it was, yes. and we had the bedlam hopefully reflected on gb news of our viewers and listeners last night. tom and ellie and morning to you both. exactly. i think it's very febrile right now. i've been talking to a senior tory mp, one of those who has signed the edm on the motion of no confidence in the speaker of the house of commons. they think that by monday, between 80 and 100 mps
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might have signed that motion. if they say it if that happens, they say it will be very difficult for the for the commons, for the leader of the house of commons, penny mordaunt , not to grant time for mordaunt, not to grant time for a vote of no confidence in the speaker of the commons because of of confidence in him of lack of confidence in him to do to do the job, and goes back to yesterday you were saying so yesterday as you were saying so eloquently, whether he showed bias this , this, uh, bias in allowing this, this, uh, amendment from labour to an snp motion not normally happening happened since 1979. a very rare thing was that showing bias, or was that showing some support and concern for mps being threatened locally in their constituencies ? either way, tory constituencies? either way, tory mps tell me that's either bowing to people threatening mps or it's doing a favour to labour. and either of those results is a bad one for the speaker. and thatis bad one for the speaker. and that is why so many mps are signing it up from 33 overnight to 59 now. again, that could go towards 100 by monday and then it will be a real full on crisis for the speaker. it it will be a real full on crisis for the speaker . it feels it will be a real full on crisis for the speaker. it feels very febrile right now. there's a one crumb comfort, should crumb of comfort, i should say, in .
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in the commons. >> has lost christopher there that she . that she. >> christopher, we've got you back. we've got you back. do continue. >> sorry , i was just saying i'll >> sorry, i was just saying i'll be very, very brief. just briefly. penny mordaunt just now in the commons chamber attached labour leader sir keir starmer for putting, um the speaker, lindsay hoyle, in a position where he had to, to, to choose this amendment and break with, with precedent in the house of commons. and it was doing that according to penny mordaunt, which put offices the which put the offices of the speaker some disarray speaker in in some some disarray . and i think the fact they are turning their fire in the government on labour, not the speaken government on labour, not the speaker, is a crumb of comfort . speaker, is a crumb of comfort. but as stand, as i understand but as we stand, as i understand it far, the speaker has not it so far, the speaker has not yet met with the chief whips of the parties. the three main parties. we expect at some expect that to happen at some point happened point today. it hasn't happened yet christopher. going to >> christopher. we're going to just penny just show a clip of what penny mordaunt had to say in the commons . as i, i would never commons. as i, i would never have done to him what the labour party have done to him . party have done to him. >> secondly , we have seen into
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>> secondly, we have seen into the heart of labour's leadership nothing is more important than the interest of the labour party . the labour party before principle, the labour party before individual rights . before individual rights. >> well, penny mordaunt went on to list all of the things she believed the labour party had put itself before and even mentioned that upcoming by—election too. but but christopher hope it was a barnstorming performance from the leader of the house over the despatch box just some moments ago . ago. >> yeah , and she does do them >> yeah, and she does do them and she is. why many labour senior labour figures tell me that were she a tory leader, they would fear her more than rishi sunak. let's put leadership of the tory party to one side. but that's why she does command the despatch box. we saw that also at the party conference last year, the tory
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conference. she has these moments really moments when she does really hold the house commons in the hold the house of commons in the palm hand. i think palm of her hand. i think what is fascinating she's is fascinating there is she's having go labour, not the having a go at labour, not the speaker last night's drama. speaker for last night's drama. and that is that is and i think that is the that is the very narrow ledge upon which the very narrow ledge upon which the speaker finds himself today. yes. >> very interesting. if it is that keir starmer bullied the speaker into making this decision, then penny morden is very right to highlight that in the comments. >> but christopher, does this mean that this angle of attack that the leader of the commons, penny mordaunt , has decided to penny mordaunt, has decided to take out today? does this mean that the government is for now supporting the speaker's position because that could give him potentially some, some, some respite ? yeah yeah, that's right. >> tom, i think for now they are, but they haven't yet met with the speaker of the house of commons. i should say though , commons. i should say though, looking at those who have signed up every single officer up the 59, every single officer of the 1922 committee of tory mps, backbench group which mps, the backbench group which funnel concern on to
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funnel backbench concern on to the whips they've signed it along with, i think, three of the remaining 12 members of this group now, this group is really important because whips important because the whips follow that. know that if follow that. they know that if you to command and have you want to command and have control over the backbenches, listen 1922 committee. we listen to the 1922 committee. we saw when the when this saw that when the when this group helped to bring down previous leaders in recent previous tory leaders in recent memory, that's why the fact memory, and that's why the fact that all six of the officers of that all six of the officers of that group have signed this motion is a big worry, i think, for lindsay hoyle far we've for lindsay hoyle so far we've heard nothing from him, i should for lindsay hoyle so far we've hearalso hing from him, i should for lindsay hoyle so far we've hearalso that from him, i should for lindsay hoyle so far we've hearalso that in)m him, i should for lindsay hoyle so far we've hearalso that in the1im, i should for lindsay hoyle so far we've hearalso that in the commons|ld say. also that in the commons just heard penny just now, when you heard penny mordaunt he mordaunt speaking, she was he was not in the chair. it was his deputy, rosie winterton already talking is happening here in the commons about who might replace lindsay hoyle. some saying lindsay hoyle. some are saying sir chris bryant, who became second sir lindsay hoyle back second to sir lindsay hoyle back in november 2019. others are saying, though it should be a conservative because of course it's meant to oscillate between tory labour and tory labour in that position. so already politics abhors a vacuum. we
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have had nothing, heard nothing yet from sir lindsay hoyle. and into that vacuum , speculation is into that vacuum, speculation is starting right now about who might interesting might replace him. interesting >> the runners and riders are already popping their heads up. well, christopher hope, thank you from you very much. live from westminster hall? >> yes. should we get some more analysis with the independents? chief commentator john chief political commentator john rentoul? i read your rentoul? john, i read your analysis of what happened overnight in the in the independent isn't very interesting indeed . what do you interesting indeed. what do you make of lindsay hoyle's apology and his explanation that perhaps this had to do with fears over mps safety . mps safety. >> that's that was not a sensible thing for him to have said . said. >> uh, let's be completely clear about that. >> i assume that that was an argument that was put to him by, um , by the labour party. um, by the labour party. >> i don't know if keir starmer mentioned it specifically . um, mentioned it specifically. um, but , uh, he should have he but, uh, he should have he should have left that out. i mean, you know, to, to make it look as if he was giving in to,
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to the threats, threats of physical violence was if it was true, john, what if it's true, though true, that he gave in to threats of physical violence? no i don't think he i don't think he did. i think his his main motive, i mean, yes , obviously motive, i mean, yes, obviously it had had the side benefit of helping the labour party, but i think his main motive was, as he said to try and give each of the three parties the chance to vote on their own policy . on their own policy. >> do say, john, to >> what do you say, john, to the, um, reporting that we did see overnight of senior labour figures? not necessarily sir keir starmer himself, but senior labour figures saying that, well , there'll be a speaker election at the start of the new parliament. and if the speaker wants to rely on labour party votes in what is likely to be a labour majority, commons , he labour majority, commons, he should really select their amendment . should really select their amendment. that's a threat, isn't it? >> was . yeah. no, that was >> that was. yeah. no, that was an extraordinary yeah . uh, an an extraordinary yeah. uh, an extraordinary anonymous quotation given to the bbc and strenuously denied by the labour
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party. obviously john, it was interesting though this morning, listening to pat mcfadden , who, listening to pat mcfadden, who, uh, went out on the on the media round, he denied that keir starmer had said that, that keir starmer had said that, that keir starmer had said that, that keir starmer had threatened sir lindsay hoyle . lindsay hoyle. >> he didn't deny that no labour party figure has. and we saw many suggestions that perhaps sue gray had been involved in some of these meetings, that other people in sir keir starmer's had had starmer's team had had conversations with the speaker. it's entirely possible that that threat did take place . threat did take place. >> well, it was fascinating that the speaker , in his nearly the speaker, in his nearly tearful statement last night, did go out of his way to say that he had not met sue gray. um, because there had been speculation swirling last night about that. um, but, i mean, i think this is this is i mean, this is it's important, but in a way, it's beside the point because it is it is just obvious. it is, i'm afraid it is politics. uh, that that the
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speaker has to has to have regard to the possibility of a labour government and is obviously not going to want to offend them. um you know, so, so therefore , um, it's getting , therefore, um, it's getting, getting keir starmer off the hook of, of a possible rebellion on the gaza issue. um, was, was was definitely, um , something was definitely, um, something that the labour party was, was quite pleased with. but but, but the way the speaker went about it, he ended up bungling it. as he admitted last night, uh, and causing himself far more problems than, than he needed to have done. >> and what do you make of. we just from penny morden, >> and what do you make of. we just certainlym penny morden, >> and what do you make of. we just certainly choseny morden, >> and what do you make of. we just certainly chose to morden, >> and what do you make of. we just certainly chose to stucken, >> and what do you make of. we just certainly chose to stuck the who certainly chose to stuck the boot stuck the boot in to, boot in stuck the boot in to, uh, to , uh, to keir starmer uh, to, uh, to keir starmer rather than the speaker . rather than the speaker. >> exactly. i mean, that told you all you need to know. the government, the government does not want to get rid of lindsay hoyle. look hoyle. uh, it would look terrible , i think, for rishi terrible, i think, for rishi sunak to appoint his own puppet speaker . um, sunak to appoint his own puppet speaker. um, that , that, that speaker. um, that, that, that wouldn't, that would not reflect well on the, on the government.
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so i think the government is drawing back from that . think, so i think the government is dthink; back from that . think, so i think the government is dthink tory:k from that . think, so i think the government is dthink tory mpsm that. think, so i think the government is dthink tory mps williat. think, so i think the government is dthink tory mps will continue1k, i think tory mps will continue to spend day venting to spend the day venting furiously. um, but rather rather impotently. but there's no doubt that keir starmer made sorry, lindsay hoyle made a terrible mistake last night because he could have avoided a lot of this if he had simply allowed the snp to have their vote, and it would have been a very simple thing. he could have exercised the discretion that he already discretion that he had already exercised reversed his exercised and reversed his decision and said, all right, well, we'll have the snp vote first the labour vote, first and then the labour vote, and least the and then, you know, at least the snp and the labour party would have been happy and that would have been happy and that would have closer to precedent as have fit closer to precedent as well. have fit closer to precedent as welbut john 59 mps saying they >> but john 59 mps saying they have no confidence in the speaker is not a solid basis on which sir lindsay hoyle can continue command authority in the chamber. surely this is a this is a real, real problem for him that's only growing . him that's only growing. >> yeah. no. well it doesn't help, but no i don't i don't think it is growing. actually, i think it is growing. actually, i think it's diminishing. i think
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it reached a peak last night. i mean, tory mps were absolutely spitting blood last night . spitting blood last night. absolutely furious . um, but i absolutely furious. um, but i think in the cold light of day . think in the cold light of day. and now that penny mordaunt has signalled that government is signalled that the government is not of the not trying to get rid of the speaken not trying to get rid of the speaker, think i think speaker, i think i think feelings will will subside and by monday we'll have will have forgotten it and we'll have moved on to something else. >> but it's a view, although there were 33 mps putting their names motion of no names to that motion of no confidence this morning, it's now, as we say, at 59. uh likely to go higher by the end of the day. but john, as you say, perhaps not. uh, but it's only a problem the party. problem for the party. >> yeah, it's only a problem for the speaker. if a majority of the speaker. if a majority of the house wants him out and i don't think we have time for. >> but thank you much for >> but thank you very much for talking us through those machinations parliament. machinations in parliament. >> coming up, let us >> yes. well, coming up, let us know what think of that, by know what you think of that, by the coming up, a small the way. but coming up, a small town over plans to town in uproar over plans to house 40 asylum seekers despite a severe housing shortage there, we'll be live on the ground after this short
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to jb news radio. >> well , there has been fury >> well, there has been fury over plans to house asylum seekers in a tiny cumbrian town that's in the grips of a housing shortage. >> eight properties are being used to put up around 40 newcomers from overseas . newcomers from overseas. >> police in the area have had to increase patrolling after one of the houses was vandalised , of the houses was vandalised, with graffiti reading not welcome scum . welcome scum. >> well, let's cross to millom now and speak to our north west of england. reporter sophie reaper sophy , tell us what's reaper sophy, tell us what's happening . happening. >> well, as you rightly say , >> well, as you rightly say, there has been outrage here in millom. you mentioned that house that's been graffitied. we were on that street this morning where proposed hmos were. where the proposed hmos were. those plans have now been paused due to the outrage created by the local community and then led up with the work by the council
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and the town's mayor. joining me now is the chair of the town council . paul, now is the chair of the town council. paul, thank you so much for joining us today. we're forjoining us today. we're going to talk a little bit more about what's been going on here. it all seems confusing . can it all seems very confusing. can you just explain to our viewers exactly what's been happening and how you came to find out about ? about it? >> um, really, it came to light through media and through through social media and some of the members of the public, you know, have brought brought attention . brought this to the attention. >> um, as a council then >> um, we as a council then followed our own followed it up and made our own investigations and were shocked at the level of, of the plans is really you know, we've spoken to a number of developers and between them they probably had heading for towards 40 properties that they were looking to turn into hmos in this small rural community, which is totally inappropriate for this area. >> so obviously it's been discussed about the 40 people, but you say there there was potential for 40 properties, which would obviously be a lot more than just 40 asylum seekers. >> yeah. well, we've we've
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spoken as a council direct to a number of the number of a number of the, the developers and a number of them have pulled out of purchase of properties realised properties because they realised they were inappropriate. >> are . and we've, >> some of them are. and we've, we've also on of that got we've also on top of that got got um, uh , local sellers that got um, uh, local sellers that have pulled out of sales when they've realised who they were selling we, we know selling to. so we, we know probably a 15 houses that have actually been taken back out into the, into the marketplace that were going down that road into hmos. >> and why would it be such an issue if, if you were to have some asylum seekers housed here in millom, it's not an issue about it's about the appropriateness . appropriateness. >> you know, the government have guidelines and i understand their dispersal programme , um, their dispersal programme, um, that they, they don't want all this to land on to, to a certain area of the country and they want to disperse them across the country. that's fair. fair. and square. but it's what's equitable. the guidance is . one equitable. the guidance is. one asylum bed for 200, 250 of the indigenous population . for
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indigenous population. for millom, that means no more than 30. well when we're talking more than that in houses and six in each house, you can see the inappropriateness of this . inappropriateness of this. >> obviously, this isn't just an issue in millom. what are your thoughts on the impact of asylum seekers on the housing crisis ? seekers on the housing crisis? not just here, but countrywide ? not just here, but countrywide? >> i well, i can only talk about millom and millom has a has problems anyway in that we lost a large social housing estate that was demolished some five years ago, never been replaced . years ago, never been replaced. we've got huge shortages of private rented accommodation . private rented accommodation. one of the local estate agents has got 110 people on a list looking for rented houses in millom and then to take such a number out of that marketplace and turn them into hmos that would normally have ended up either as first time buyer houses or rented accommodation. it just adds to that problem . it just adds to that problem. >> so thank you so much for your time. this morning. this afternoon. sorry, councillor. of course with regards to this, we
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have spoken to the home office. they are responsible for housing asylum seekers. they say that it's their statutory duty to provide safe . housing for asylum provide safe. housing for asylum seekers coming to this country, and that they are now going to be councils like be working with councils like the in millom to ensure the one here in millom to ensure that asylum seekers can that both asylum seekers can be housed. also that there's no housed. but also that there's no kind impact on the local community. >> well, thank you very much indeed. sophie reaper , our north indeed. sophie reaper, our north west of england reporter there , there. >> that seems quite hard to both give asylum seekers free housing, but also not disrupt the local community. >> i mean, it's impossible, isn't it? really because we have an acute housing shortage and it's understandable that locals get very angry and frustrated about it if they see preference being given to people who are newcomers to the area. but then there is no excuse to vandalise property like that with those nasty words. but the government are . i mean, they're in such are. i mean, they're in such a pickle and such a catastrophic mess over this, all that. i don't know what on earth they
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can do about it. >> here's one thing they could do. they could process asylum seekers amount of seekers in a shorter amount of time than years, but they time than two years, but they still housing. well, no, still need housing. well, no, no, because no, no. because if they processed immediately, processed them immediately, then they leave they can either leave the country or if they're legitimate, they can stay the legitimate, they can stay in the country pay for country, get a job and pay for their blimmin housing. their own blimmin housing. >> yes, but we know how impossible to, deport impossible it is to, uh, deport people that's when people. that's true. even when their been rejected . their claims have been rejected. then appeals then there's the appeals process. , you can process. you can appeal, you can convert christianity and have convert to christianity and have another so go. another go. so there we go. >> almost certainly get in. although you are approved , although if you are approved, then you could get a job and be a productive entity. then you could get a job and be a pyes. :tive entity. then you could get a job and be a pyes. but entity. then you could get a job and be a pyes. but asylum entity. then you could get a job and be a pyes. but asylum seekers'. then you could get a job and be a pyes. but asylum seekers tend >> yes. but asylum seekers tend to be in social housing. don't they, number of years. but they, for a number of years. but anyway , independent reviewer they, for a number of years. but an prevent independent reviewer they, for a number of years. but an prevent the1dependent reviewer they, for a number of years. but an prevent the government's/iewer of prevent the government's anti—terror programme, has warned the public faces an increased threat islamist increased threat of islamist extremism terrorism because extremism and terrorism because the government is simply not doing enough to tackle them well. >> they were also warnings that the to take tougher the failure to take tougher action fuelling a dangerous action was fuelling a dangerous rise in anti—semitism . and this rise in anti—semitism. and this action inaction stemmed from a continuing bias within prevent towards tackling the rise of
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right wing terrorism , rather right wing terrorism, rather than the main threat of islamist terrorism. well let's get the thoughts now with security and intelligence expert at the university of buckingham, professor anthony glees . professor anthony glees. >> now, a lot of us will have suspected this to be case. suspected this to be the case. but very interesting but what i find very interesting here our prevent here is that our prevent programme is potentially prioritising far right extremism, which is a lesser threat than islamist extremism. why would they be doing this? is it political correctness ? well it political correctness? well i think the situation is a bit more complicated than that, to be honest, because i think , uh, be honest, because i think, uh, the picture . is a fast changing the picture. is a fast changing and fast moving picture. >> and when sir william shawcross wrote his report a year ago , he seemed to be making year ago, he seemed to be making kind of polemical point . i mean, kind of polemical point. i mean, people like me think whoever is a terrorist, frankly, we're not that interested in their far right or islamist or whatever terrorism and violent extremism is the problem. and you've got to go after it.
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>> so i do think it is right that , um, as >> so i do think it is right that, um, as the situation changed and since the 7th of october, the situation in respect of is terrorism certainly has changed and has got worse . got worse. >> and you don't have to listen to a pointy headed professor telling you that it's what the counter—terrorist cops themselves are saying. i mean, some, rowley said several months ago there were tens of thousands of potential jihadis, tens of thousands of potential jihadists in the uk waiting for a spark. now he said that, uh, and now , now he said that, uh, and now, after the 7th of october and the war in, in gaza, we have that spark . and if anybody is spark. and if anybody is inclined not to take it seriously, they just need to see what happened in westminster last night, where extreme pro—palestinian groups , you pro—palestinian groups, you know, shone laser lights on to the elizabeth tower in westminster. so getting maximum use coverage, but more
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importantly , the whole conduct importantly, the whole conduct of parliament was disrupted on, uh, the view that mps lives could be threatened unless they could be threatened unless they could be threatened unless they could be shown to support a motion that that extremists thought was right. it's not to say that anybody just or anybody's decent, i think, justifies what's going on in palestine . of course not. but palestine. of course not. but there is a narrow dividing line. now that means that what is going on in britain today , right going on in britain today, right now, would justify tends to justify what sir william shawcross is saying, that the biggest threat at the moment has now come from, uh , potential now come from, uh, potential islamist jihadists. even the firm islamist is now contested. i mean, even five years ago, it was accepted that when you said islamist , you didn't mean islamist, you didn't mean islamic. islam is a peaceful religion by islamists , you meant
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religion by islamists, you meant people who were perverting the teaching of islam to propose violent extremes . violent extremes. >> but anthony, this isn't just a threat from from since october 7 and everything that's come, islamist extremism has been festering in our society for many, many years . it's not new. many, many years. it's not new. and they they should have known that the islamist extremist threat is strong in this country i >> -- >> well, of course , you know, >> well, of course, you know, the first islamic bomb plot in the first islamic bomb plot in the united kingdom occurred in 1999, before even the attack on iraq . that is usually blamed iraq. that is usually blamed for, uh, creating islamist extremism. and terrorism. the fact is, we live in a very violent society, a british culture is much more violent, potentially than it's ever been in in my lifetime. and sir william shawcross is saying that , uh, you know, his recommendations haven't been carried out. the home office is saying that 30 out of the 34 have been carried out. but the fundamental problem is that
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shawcross seems to me to be addressing is the fact that the spark for islamist jihadism has been lit by the war in gaza and by support amongst a tiny minority of people for what hamas did and the refusal to condemn hamas, along with condemning the loss of innocent civilian life. so so william shawcross, speaking like now, is , is certainly justified speaking. >> we're gonna have to leave it there. but really appreciate your time and your expertise on this security expert at the university of buckingham. of course . coui'se. >> course. >> yes, we'll come back to that. but coming up, employers could be sued for disability discrimination they to discrimination if they fail to make adjustments for menopausal women be keeping an women will also be keeping an eye on that tracker. how many mps calling for lindsay mps are calling for lindsay hoyle, resign ?
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hoyle, the speaker, to resign? >> well, good afternoon. your top stories from the gb newsroom. sir keir starmer has categorically denied threatening the commons speaker so that he would select labour's amendment in the gaza ceasefire debate. sir lindsay hoyle is now facing calls to resign over the decision, with 59 snp and tory mps signing a no confidence motion against him. commons leader penny morton last night claimed the speaker had hijacked the debate, but today defended him as a decent man and blamed labour for causing chaos in the commons. >> nothing is more important than the interests of the labour party. the labour party, before principle . all the labour party principle. all the labour party before individual rights , the before individual rights, the labour party before the reputation and honour of the decent man that sits in the speaker's chair here, here the labour party before fairness, integrity and democracy . in a
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integrity and democracy. in a joint operation , the uk and joint operation, the uk and jordan have delivered aid to a hospital in northern gaza, suppues hospital in northern gaza, supplies include essential medicines, fuel and food for patients and staff , with the patients and staff, with the foreign secretary, lord cameron, saying it will help thousands of people . people. >> it's part of an agreement signed by the uk this week to deliver £1 million of aid to gaza to . house holds could see gaza to. house holds could see their energy bills fall to the lowest level in two years. energy regulator ofgem is due to announce the latest price cap tomorrow, with experts predicting it will drop by £293 a year. that would see the average household bill falling by 15% from just over £1,900 a year to £1,635 from the start of april . for the latest stories, april. for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen, or go to gb news. com slash alerts .
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planes. you're listening to gb news radio show . news radio show. >> right. well, we're getting to some of your views on what's been going on in the world of politics. but first, the king met the minister face met with the prime minister face to face for the first time yesterday following his cancer diagnosis. dufing diagnosis. during meeting , king >> during the meeting, king charles that he was charles revealed that he was moved tears by all those get moved to tears by all those get well messages and cards that he's been receiving from the public. >> well, joining us now to tell us more is gb news royal correspondent cameron walker. so how was this meeting ? how was this meeting? >> yeah, it was a nice surprise last night, really, after the chaos in the commons, i'm told that meeting the king that this meeting with the king and was and the prime minister was always before always planned, even before the king's , as the king's cancer diagnosis, as the king also attended a privy council meeting in buckingham palace last night as well. but i suspect it originally wasn't going to be filmed and photographed . and perhaps this photographed. and perhaps this is the king's way of saying,
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look, okay, i've been diagnosed with cancer, but i'm still here. i'm reassuring you that i'm carrying on with my constitutional duties, going through papers and through my government papers and red and having important red boxes, and having important meetings meeting the meetings such as meeting the prime minister. and as you said in that introduction there, he revealed to the pm that he was reduced to tears by the must be thousands of cards and messages he's received from members of the public. i think he truly is quite touched by that. he's definitely more emotional than perhaps his mother, queen elizabeth , and would have elizabeth ii, and would have been , but i think it just shows been, but i think it just shows his personality and his his way of being a monarch . of being a monarch. >> well, cameron , we're just >> well, cameron, we're just going to pause it here because we're hearing that sir lindsay hoyle is standing up in the house commons, we're house of commons, and we're going over to going to cross over to parliament right now. >> i had serious meetings yesterday with the police on the issues and threats to politicians, threats , heading to politicians, threats, heading to an election , and i do not want an election, and i do not want anything to happen again . so yes
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anything to happen again. so yes , i will apologise. i always will when i make a mistake , i will when i make a mistake, i did. i offer an 24 that is within my gift and power, but i will also say i will do whatever it is to protect any body in this chamber or anybody who works in this house. that is my duty of care . i'm doing percy . duty of care. i'm doing percy. >> uh, mr deputy speaker , mr >> uh, mr deputy speaker, mr speaken >> uh, mr deputy speaker, mr speaker, um, i was in israel last week meeting with friends and survivors and hostage families . families. >> uh, and i actually felt safer in israel than i do in this country at this moment in time. and i have two reflections on that visit and on what happened yesterday. first of all, nobody in this house has any business agency at all in telling the state of israel , where it is state of israel, where it is able to operate , to seek to able to operate, to seek to rescue hostages who are being raped by islamic terrorists who hold them, nobody has any
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business. secondly, if we have a rerun of the debate we had yesterday , we will have exactly yesterday, we will have exactly the same thing happen again, which is that members will not vote with their hearts because they are frightened and they are scared. and what do we expect? for months i've been standing up here talking about the people on our streets, demanding death to jews, demanding jihad, demanding intifadas as the police stand by and allow that to happen. last night, a genocide call for from the to river the sea, palestine will be free was rejected onto this building. that that message says no jew is welcome in the state of israel or in that land. this is going to continue happening because we're not deaung happening because we're not dealing with it. so if we have a rerun of this , can the leader rerun of this, can the leader explain to me what will be any different and how will members vote with their hearts and their consciences? because too many will moment, because will not at the moment, because of we're receiving of the threats we're receiving threats us to leave threats that telling us to leave this in some our this country in some of our cases and telling they cases and telling us that they want our families to want us or our families to be subjected to death .
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subjected to pain and to death. here, leader . here, leader. >> well, can i thank my honourable friend for raising this ? i don't think there is any this? i don't think there is any member of this house that has not come under threats and intimidation . and increasingly intimidation. and increasingly death threats to them, but also members of their family as well . members of their family as well. well, we've just been listening to the house of commons there. >> the speaker first apologising for the chaotic scenes, admitting that he made a mistake in the way that he has, uh, to some extent favoured the labour party in the goings on of yesterday . but we just stayed yesterday. but we just stayed there to listen to andrew percy, there to listen to andrew percy, the member of parliament for bngg the member of parliament for brigg and goole, a tory mp , has brigg and goole, a tory mp, has been sitting on those benches since 2010 and one of the staunch supporters of israel in parliament. he's worried about a rerun of yesterday and frankly , rerun of yesterday and frankly, about the way in which mps can choose to operate independently without those threats. >> well, he's talking about what
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most of us are very worried about, and that is intimidation of our public servants, of our representatives, and also intimidation in the public at large, too . we cannot have our large, too. we cannot have our democracy disrupted because of any activist group, but not least extremists on our streets, because it's just not acceptable that our mps feel they have to vote in one way or another simply because of intimidation action. and that is clearly what is happening. some people might wish to dismiss that and say, oh no, no, this is just democracy in action to me, it is absolutely not. you cannot make mps fear for their lives. i mean, look at mike freer, for example, stepping down from his role because he was pro israel in views and he received in his views and he received death threats on a near—daily basis. death threats on a near—daily bafis.by death threats on a near—daily basis. by the by the sounds of it. >> well, not just death threats . >> well, not just death threats. his office had an arsenal attack presented against it, and had he beenin presented against it, and had he been in his constituency rather than in westminster on one
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fateful day, 2 or 3 years ago, he would have been murdered by the terrorist who went on to kill sir david amess. well, should we go back to westminster now and speak to our political edhon now and speak to our political editor, christopher hope, is editor, christopher hope, who is joined barry joined by the labour mp barry sheerman , who is one of those to sheerman, who is one of those to have come in support of have come out in support of speaker lindsay hoyle. have come out in support of spethank lindsay hoyle. have come out in support of spethank you,dsay hoyle. have come out in support of spethank you, christopher. >> thank you, christopher. >> thank you, christopher. >> may. i'm joined now, as you say there by barry sheerman, labour mp, a supporter of lindsay hoyle may be in his hour of need. barry why shouldn't the pm quit over last nights? why shouldn't sir lindsay hoyle quit ? forgive me over last night's debate in the house of commons. well i've been here a long time. >> as you know, and lindsay is the best speaker i can recall whether a labour or conservative is a really great presence . is a really great presence. >> he cares about this place , >> he cares about this place, and he's fair, and he's known for being fair. >> um, and last yesterday, he bent over backwards to be fair , bent over backwards to be fair, to choose three amendments. >> so everyone had a had an
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amendment and he i don't think anyone had thought through the repercussions of that. and of course we are in a febrile we're facing an election. the conservatives know they're doomed. the snp know they are doomed. the snp know they are doomed. they're like tribes that have lost their head. so they will do anything outrageous behaviour yesterday. >> lindsay hoyle has got to be independent. he's a former labour and he independent, labour mp and he is independent, but allowed himself to be but he's allowed himself to be seen drawn into party seen to be drawn into party politics by selecting no let me finish here because he he's got he's riding two horses. either he's riding two horses. either he's saying i want to take the pressure mps, mps , pressure off mps, labour mps, give them something to vote for. isn't policy isn't isn't the snp policy and isn't government accept isn't the snp policy and isn't goverwell, t accept isn't the snp policy and isn't goverwell, that's accept isn't the snp policy and isn't goverwell, that's bowing accept isn't the snp policy and isn't goverwell, that's bowing to ccept isn't the snp policy and isn't goverwell, that's bowing to the it that, well, that's bowing to the kind of the pressure the mob outside or putting pressure on your colleagues in the house of commons he's doing labour commons or he's doing labour a favour either option commons or he's doing labour a favotgreat either option commons or he's doing labour a favotgreat (him. option isn't great for him. >> know i think he acted properly. >> he thought that this was the way through that would give an even handed approach to all
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parties . and as he said, he was parties. and as he said, he was always been very careful about the welfare of members of parliament and that , you know, parliament and that, you know, i'm one of the people that have death threats . so i know about death threats. so i know about the security of members . i'm the security of members. i'm sorry, but lindsay hoyle acted in very good faith, and i support him. absolutely. because um, we know what's happening . we um, we know what's happening. we febrile at fear the snp know they're going to lose their seats and the tories knows that. and they cause this distraction . and they cause this distraction. it's a distraction just very finally . finally. >> have you spoken to him today. have him have you seen him around? >> i was trying to get >> um, well, i was trying to get caught by him in a culture, media and sport question, but he didn't call me. but yes, i have had to work with him. >> is he? had to work with him. >> he's. s he? had to work with him. >> he's. he's’ had to work with him. >> he's. he's lindsay, he's tough. he's you know, you know, he's a well rounded, sensible guy - he's a well rounded, sensible guy . he's got he's a well rounded, sensible guy. he's got his he's a well rounded, sensible guy . he's got his feet he's a well rounded, sensible guy. he's got his feet in the bloody, you know, on the, on the planet and he's seen stuff like
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this come and go. yeah i think he's a very sound chap . he's a very sound chap. >> you heard there from barry sheerman, a friend, lindsay hoyle, he spoke to the speaker earlier. it's pretty clear from what saying, what barry sheerman is saying, that going that lindsay hoyle is going nowhere. soon >> very much for that. and as barry sheerman saying , perhaps barry sheerman saying, perhaps sir lindsay hoyle is, is toughing this one out. >> yes. we shall see. now the labour leader, sir keir starmer, has reacted to yesterday's chaos in the commons while on a visit in the commons while on a visit in crawley today . in crawley today. >> important to put the debate last night into its context . last night into its context. >> last weekend i was at munich security conference talking to world leaders , um, about the world leaders, um, about the plan , hopefully to bring an end plan, hopefully to bring an end to the awful situation in gaza where far, far too many people have died. i i drafted a labour amendment which not only dealt with how we stop the fighting now and get aid in, but also about what the long terme plan is to make sure that we get to a
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peaceful outcome. >> i wanted that amendment put before parliament because i wanted to ensure it was a good debate , that we had the widest debate, that we had the widest possible options and of course, there were discussions with the speaken there were discussions with the speaker. but many, you know, all party leaders speak to the, uh , party leaders speak to the, uh, speak to the speaker. um, but but there was absolutely no threat to the speaker. uh, in the course of that, what he wanted to do was to ensure that parliament had the broadest possible debate on an issue which is really very, very important . important. >> can you categorically say then, that no labour mp warned lindsay hoyle that he could lose labour's support to continue as speaker after the election if he didn't select amendment? speaker after the election if he did it select amendment? speaker after the election if he did i was.ect amendment? speaker after the election if he did i was very amendment? speaker after the election if he did i was very concerned ment? speaker after the election if he did i was very concerned that? speaker after the election if he did i was very concerned that the >> i was very concerned that the debate yesterday should be elevated. >> it's a very important issue. >> it's a very important issue. >> that is probably the most important issue globally at the moment , the conflict in gaza and moment, the conflict in gaza and how we bring an end to the terrible situation there. so i
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wanted that amendment. but of course, i had conversations with the speaker, all political leaders had conversations. >> what pressure did you put on the speaker? i i simply urge the speaker to ensure that the debate could be as broad as possible and that mps could vote for the proposition that they believe in. >> we're talking here about whether there was one amendment or two amendments on the before parliament, the real issue, the real issue is to have that proper debate. and that didn't happen because the snp walked off because all they were interested in doing was dividing the labour party. and once they saw they couldn't do that , they saw they couldn't do that, they walked government walked off and the government then walked off. the government of the country walked out of a debate on gaza because they thought they were going to lose a vote. but i think that we should have continued with that debate , had it at the right debate, had it at the right level. and for parliament to be able to speak on one of the most important issues of the day.
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>> say that you and your >> can you say that you and your labour categorically didn't labour mps categorically didn't put that pressure on the speaken put that pressure on the speaker, didn't threaten to withdraw for him withdraw your support for him after the election? can you just say or no ? say that yes or no? >> categorically tell you >> i can categorically tell you that did not threaten the that i did not threaten the speaker any way whatsoever . i speaker in any way whatsoever. i simply urged him to ensure that we have the broadest possible debate , the broadest possible debate, the broadest possible debate, the broadest possible debate , um, so that actually the debate, um, so that actually the most important thing, which is what do we do about the awful situation in gaza, could be properly discussed by mps with a number of options in front of them. that's the right thing to do.the them. that's the right thing to do. the speaker did the right thing in making sure the debate was broad, but the tragedy is the snp walked off the pitch because they wanted to divide the labour party and they couldn't, and the government walked the pitch because it walked off the pitch because it thought it was going lose thought it was going to lose a vote. had one party that vote. so we had one party that was simply seeking to divide on an issue . the an important issue. the government has lost control of its own mps and couldn't control the vote. we should have had a
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proper debate and a proper resolution with all three propositions. being put to a vote isn't what really happened is under massive pressure is you under massive pressure within your party to shift your position on a gaza ceasefire? >> hadn't secured >> and if you hadn't secured that amendment, you that vote on that amendment, you would have faced the biggest rebellion of your leadership. the proposition i on the the proposition i put on the table in amendment was table in that amendment was crafted by me . crafted by me. >> after i came back from the munich security conference, having spoken to secretary of state blinken, having spoken to the prime minister of qatar, having spoken to the president of israel , i having spoken to the president of israel, i having having spoken to the president of israel , i having spoken to of israel, i having spoken to the people who are actually involved in trying to wait for this awful conflict, i wanted that proposition heard and voted on, and my mps wanted to vote on it. happily, it was carried last night and that's the right thing. but my focus is on what we need to do to resolve the awful situation going on in gaza. okay sir keir starmer, thank you . thank you. >> well, there we go, sir keir
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starmer categorically denying that there was any threat to the speaker to accept their amendment, which is curious given that there's been some pretty credible reporting to the contrary. yeah. he says he was just urged him to ensure there was the broadest possible selection for people to debate and vote on, which translated into english is, mr speaker , into english is, mr speaker, please go against standing order rule 31 and make sure that you go against precedents and take time away from the snp to give it to the labour party on the snp's day . i it to the labour party on the snp's day. i must say a lot of you have been getting in touch saying that it should be starmer who has to go if he if he is found bullied found to have bullied the speaker this change. speaker into making this change. keir starmer blaming snp, keir starmer blaming the snp, blamingwhat do you think ? gb course. what do you think? gb views comm? let views at gb news comm? let us know make of it all. do know what you make of it all. do you it's absurd? actually you think it's absurd? actually that is spending you think it's absurd? actually themuch is spending you think it's absurd? actually themuch time is spending you think it's absurd? actually themuch time on is spending you think it's absurd? actually themuch time on a is spending you think it's absurd? actually themuch time on a foreign1ding so much time on a foreign conflict perhaps conflict that perhaps we can't really change all that much? >> might it better to focus >> might it be better to focus on affect us here at on issues that affect us here at home, but stick with us here on good afternoon britain, because
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after the break, be after the break, we'll be bringing you new developments in the of there's the house of commons. there's been intervention the been an intervention from the leader of the snp on the green benches , the leader of the snp benches, the leader of the snp in westminster , and has in westminster, and he has had some harsh words for some pretty harsh words for lindsay hoyle on behalf of his entire parliament. >> he doesn't pull his punches, does he? >> that one really doesn't. it's well worth watching, so well worth you watching, so don't anywhere and we'll well worth you watching, so don't younnywhere and we'll well worth you watching, so don't you the here and we'll well worth you watching, so don't you the words nd we'll well worth you watching, so don't you the words of we'll well worth you watching, so don't you the words of stephen bring you the words of stephen flynn, the snp westminster leader, after the break. this is good afternoon britain on gb news britain's election . news britain's election. channel >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> good afternoon. welcome to your latest gb news weather update with me, annie, from the met office. there's further heavy to push eastwards heavy rain to push eastwards through the rest of the day, but it to turn drier
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it will start to turn drier across the west over the next few heavy rains as few hours. the heavy rains as a result this weather front result of this weather front that's pushing eastwards that's been pushing eastwards through today, going to through today, it's going to stall few hours stall over the next few hours across far southeast, but across the far southeast, but behind is turning colder and behind it is turning colder and dnen behind it is turning colder and drier, so some further heavy rain to in the east. we rain to come. in the east. we have got weather warnings still in well wind in force here, as well as wind warnings in the far south—east, but it will drier but behind it it will turn drier for areas tonight. for many areas through tonight. so night come, so a much drier night to come, but it will a colder night as but it will be a colder night as we've colder air so we we've got that colder air so we could down as minus could be down as low as minus 3 or 4 in the north tomorrow. as low some rural low as minus one in some rural areas further south, frost will be fairly limited , though, be fairly limited, though, because do have fairly because we do have a fairly brisk westerly breeze through friday. that's going to be pushing in showers from the west through the day. they'll be most frequent areas frequent across western areas here they could merge into quite longer spells of rain, bringing here they could merge into quite lcriskr spells of rain, bringing here they could merge into quite lcrisk of)ells of rain, bringing here they could merge into quite lcrisk of hail of rain, bringing here they could merge into quite lcrisk of hail and ain, bringing here they could merge into quite lcrisk of hail and some inging here they could merge into quite lcrisk of hail and some thunder. a risk of hail and some thunder. the will drift into more the showers will drift into more eastern the afternoon, eastern areas in the afternoon, but the morning it but through the morning it should largely dry. here should stay largely dry. here there'll sunny there'll be plenty of sunny spells temperatures spells as well. temperatures much for the much closer to average for the time year across the uk .
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time of year across the uk. showers should die down over friday night, slowly but surely to leave a much drier picture for morning. but for saturday morning. but they'll be quite a lot they'll probably be quite a lot of fog across central of fog around across central and eastern areas. but many areas should get away some dry should get away with some dry and sunny spells through saturday, it's looking like saturday, and it's looking like into start of next it into the start of next week. it should north should stay dry across the north with arriving in the with some rain arriving in the south. later i that warm south. see you later! that warm feeling inside from boxt boiler as sponsors of weather on .
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way -- way. -- way . good afternoon britain. way. good afternoon britain. >> it's 1:00 way. good afternoon britain. >> it's1:00 on thursday . the >> it's1:00 on thursday. the 22nd of february. >> could hoyle go? the speaker of the house of commons faces a mounting campaign of no confidence, as dozens of mps call him to stand down. in call for him to stand down. in the last few minutes, the labour leader, sir keir starmer, has
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denied threatening the speaker over the gaza debate at and breeding ground for extremism . breeding ground for extremism. >> the government's prevent programme priorities is tackling right wing terrorism over the main threat of islamist extremism . that's a claim made extremism. that's a claim made in a new report. is the extremism. that's a claim made in a new report . is the public in a new report. is the public being at risk ? we are going being put at risk? we are going to hosting a rather to be hosting a rather fiery debate very soon. debate on this very soon. >> respect the menopause . >> respect the menopause. employers could soon be sued for disability discrimination if they fail to make adjustments for menopausal women . that's for menopausal women. that's according to the new equalities watchdog. but is this special treatment for women . now? >> it's interesting to see so many mps stand up in the commons over the last, what, hour or so talking about the intimidation they feel and have witnessed being mps and doing their jobs, being mps and doing theirjobs, and whether this is actually influencing the debate,
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influencing the debate, influencing our democracy in a way that it absolutely shouldn't , but also looking at the position of the speaker of the house of commons, it now looks like he's lost the confidence of not just a few mps , but the not just a few mps, but the entire snp group. >> and there's a big question how can you preside as an impartial speaker when one of the parties in the house of commons has expressly said that they have no confidence in you, that has become a very difficult development in the last ten or so minutes. yes. and sir keir starmer saying nothing to see here. >> of course, i didn't intimidate or, uh, threaten the speaker in any way to choose my amendment, but lots of questions , lots of reports that contradict that . contradict that. >> what do you think? vaiews@gbnews.com should lindsay hoyle go? do you support the growing movement to turf him out as speaker of the house of commons? and frankly, who would you want to replace him? well, let's get to all of that after your headlines with tatiana .
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your headlines with tatiana. >> tom, thank you very much. and good afternoon. your top stories from the gb newsroom. the commons speaker has reiterated his apology over his handling of the gaza ceasefire debate. he's told mps i have a duty of care and if my mistake is looking after members, i'm guilty. sir lindsay hoyle is now facing calls to resign over the decision with 59 snp and tory mps signing a no confidence motion against him . sir keir motion against him. sir keir starmer has categorically denied threatening him so that he would select labour's amendment in the debate . debate. >> real issue is to have that proper debate and that didn't happen because the snp walked off because all they were interested in doing was dividing the labour party and once they saw they couldn't do that, they walked off and the government then off the government then walked off the government of the country walked of of the country walked out of a debate gaza because they debate on gaza because they thought they were going to lose
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a vote. i think that we should have continued with that debate, had it at the right level, and for parliament to be able to speak on one of the most important issues of the day . important issues of the day. >> can you say commons leader penny mordaunt last night claimed the speaker had hijacked the debate today. >> she defended him as a decent man and blamed labour for causing chaos in the commons. >> nothing is more important than the interests of the labour party . the labour party , before party. the labour party, before principle , the labour party principle, the labour party before individual rights , the before individual rights, the labour party before the reputation and honour of the decent man that sits in the speaker's chair here, here the labour party before fairness, integrity and democracy in a joint operation , the uk and joint operation, the uk and jordan have delivered aid to a hospital in northern gaza . hospital in northern gaza. >> supplies include essential medicines as fuel and food for
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patients and staff, with the foreign secretary , lord cameron, foreign secretary, lord cameron, saying it will help thousands of people as part of an agreement signed by the uk this week to deliver £1 million of aid to gaza. deliver £1 million of aid to gaza . how holds could see their gaza. how holds could see their energy bills fall to the lowest level in two years. energy regulator ofgem is due to announce the latest price cap tomorrow, with experts predicting it will drop by £293 a year. that would see the average household bill falling by 15% from just over £1,900 a year to £1,635 from the start of april . employers could be sued april. employers could be sued if they don't make reasonable adjusts for menopausal women in the workplace . this, the the workplace. this, the equalities watchdog, has issued guidance to companies to clarify their legal obligations since items include hot flushes, brain fog and difficulty sleeping, which can be considered a disability under the 2010 equality act if it impacts the
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woman's ability to carry out usual day to day activities. women's health minister maria caulfield says adjustments like letting women work from home can really help . really help. >> we are losing women in the workplace due to symptoms of the menopause, but my experience i meet lots and lots of employers up and down the country. we're talking about women at the peak of their career, with of their career, women with lots of experience who are then struggling menopausal struggling with menopausal symptoms. employers i speak symptoms. most employers i speak to want to keep women to actually want to keep women in workplace are asking in the workplace and are asking for and how do that. for help and how to do that. that's a government, that's why as a government, we've our first we've taken on our first menopause champion . menopause employment champion. simple proper simple things like proper ventilation in the workplace, even the material of uniforms that women wear at work makes a difference . difference. >> parents who lose the baby before 24 weeks of pregnancy in england can now receive a certificate in recognition of their loss . the scheme is their loss. the scheme is designed to acknowledge the grief of parents who experienced this. the new certificates will be official but not legal documents, and they're optional. people in scotland can already apply people in scotland can already
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apply to have losses recorded in the memorial book of pregnancy and baby loss. prior to 24 weeks, all parents affected since september 2018 can apply . since september 2018 can apply. police chiefs are calling for new powers to allow them to instantly ban drink or drug drivers at the side of the road . drivers at the side of the road. they say it would allow them to take drivers who pose a risk to others off the road immediately . others off the road immediately. currently, drivers charged with a drug or drink driving offences are banned following a sentencing hearing in court , but sentencing hearing in court, but that can take weeks during which time drivers allowed to get time drivers are allowed to get back behind wheel. the back behind the wheel. the national police chiefs council for policing also want for roads policing also want tougher punishments for drivers who kill while under the influence , including potential influence, including potential murder as . and brazilian murder charges as. and brazilian football dani alves has been jailed for four and a half years for raping a woman in a nightclub. the incident happened in barcelona in 2022. he denied sexual assault, claiming it was consensual. the former defender
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was also ordered to pay almost £130,000 to the victim. his lawyer says he'll appeal the decision . for the latest story, decision. for the latest story, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen, or go to gb news. carmelites are back to tom and . emily. >> good afternoon britain. it's 1:07 and in the last half an hour the snp's westminster leader, steven finn , has leader, steven finn, has announced his entire parliamentary party does not have confidence in commons speaker sir lindsay hoyle . he's speaker sir lindsay hoyle. he's called for a no confidence vote in his speakership. >> yes, this comes as labour leader sir keir starmer denies threatening sir lindsay hoyle over the gaza debate and i must say sir lindsay hoyle say that sir lindsay hoyle has also spoken up in the also spoken up again in the house talking about house of commons, talking about how doing protect how he was doing this to protect mps . he talks about how he mps. he talks about how he doesn't want to be in a situation where picks up the situation where he picks up the phone to a friend of whatever
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side been murdered by a side that has been murdered by a terrorist. so he is very much talking about how he made this decision for fear of mps lives, which is quite something really. should we speak to political editor christopher hope, who's in westminster hall for us? lots of updates here. that's right. >> hi, tom. hi, emily. it really is all kicking off once again in the house of commons. we've had stephen flynn, the leader of the snp, that the party has snp, saying that the party has no confidence in speaker sir lindsay hoyle .
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the very latest. we'll be back with you through the programme as more developments happening. and my goodness , there seemed to and my goodness, there seemed to have of have been a good number of developments in the even developments in the last even hour so . hour or so. >> absolutely. the speaker >> absolutely. and the speaker is apologising once again. is just apologising once again. will able to, uh, see this will he be able to, uh, see this one but let's get the one out? but let's get the thoughts the mp for thoughts of the labour mp for east ham, stephen timms. thoughts of the labour mp for east ham, stephen timms . uh, east ham, sir stephen timms. uh, thank you very much for joining us, sir stephen. now now, we've heard from a number of people in the house of commons, politicians and of course, sir lindsay hoyle himself . he says lindsay hoyle himself. he says that he chose to tack on
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labour's amendment to the snp's motion because because of threats to politicians, he spoke of threats that have been absolutely frightening . he says absolutely frightening. he says it is the protection that led me to make a wrong decision. now you are a man who has experienced it well. the worst end of islamist extremism, really. you were harmed yourself. how big, in your view, is this issue of intimidation ? is this issue of intimidation? and has it actually, um , well, and has it actually, um, well, changed the course of, of democracy in a way . democracy in a way. >> well, i think the storm that's kind of erupted now will be pretty baffling to most people. >> it's just about the order in which amendments were voted on last night. i think the position was that the labour amendment was that the labour amendment was actually a very popular one. it was going to supported by it was going to be supported by labour also by the labour members, but also by the snp and i think quite snp and i think by quite a number of conservative mps as well. so actually it might well. and so actually it might have passed in the house of
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commons. i mean, it did pass, but that was in a chaotic scenes. if it had gone to the vote properly, it might well have passed and i think that's probably why penny mordaunt kind of disrupted proceedings with points of order for half an hour or so to prevent the vote properly taking place. um, but there is a lot of anger around at the moment around what's happening in the middle east. the labour motion, i think , did the labour motion, i think, did provide a helpful way through. it was in the end adopted and i'm pleased there is now a vote that has been recorded that the parliament has called for an immediate humanitarian ceasefire . um, but , you immediate humanitarian ceasefire . um, but, you know, the, immediate humanitarian ceasefire . um, but , you know, the, the, . um, but, you know, the, the, the row that's underway at the moment seems to me to be a bit confected , to be honest, what confected, to be honest, what certainly isn't confected is the real fear that many of your colleagues have about reprisals for how they vote. >> one way or another. and you know better than most , uh, the
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know better than most, uh, the that that some of these sort of angry threat s can spill over into real hard action in 2010, you were stabbed twice by an islamist extremist. could you tell us a bit about that experience ? experience? >> well, it was a horrible experience . yes. um, and it was experience. yes. um, and it was because i had supported military action in iraq in 2003. uh, and one of my constituents made an appointment to see me at my constituency surgery, and she said she wanted to talk about an employment matter. um, but that wasn't what was in her mind at all. >> as , as as you've said an.— >> as , as as you've said , um, >> as, as as you've said, um, and anger is , is high again at and anger is, is high again at and anger is, is high again at and i think the mood is not dissimilar to the one that was after the, the, the military action in the uk took in iraq in 2003, reflected in a lot of
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concern around the 2005 general election as well. >> obviously what happened to me was much later than that . it was was much later than that. it was it was 2010, but it did originate from that source . and originate from that source. and so i think it is right to be concerned about this and to recognise that, you know, the consequences of, of this kind of anger can be quite long. terme not, not something that would blow over necessarily very quickly. >> so stephen, your constituent tried to kill you. and then of course, in the last ten years we've seen two of your colleagues have their lives taken by terrorists as well. i it seems that things have not been getting better in the last 15 or so years. is that the crisis in in how people behave towards elected politicians has got worse? what can we do to turn back the tide ? well i think turn back the tide? well i think that's that's fair. >> um, and there have been changes. we are now given support for, uh, security.
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there's a security person in my weekly surgery for example, that's been helpful. we've thought a bit more about how to keep everybody safe. but as we do all that, i do think it's important that we don't as mps, become cut off from people. we do need to be accessible . people do need to be accessible. people do need to be accessible. people do need to be accessible. people do need to be able to feel they can come and talk to their mp and that's and raise concerns. that's absolutely vital. it's vital for democracy. so um, there was a very important balance to be struck here. there may well be more that can be done around safety, but we need to make sure that mps continue to be accessible to their constituents. as you said, what happened to me was in in 2010. that's a long time ago. nothing untoward has happened since then , i'm glad to say, in my case, elsewhere , tragically, it has . elsewhere, tragically, it has. but we mustn't cut mps off from
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from the people whose support we all depend on. now the speaker, just lastly, he says he made the wrong decision yesterday by selecting labour's amendment . selecting labour's amendment. >> but he says he did this because there were concerns raised to him about mps safety. dodido raised to him about mps safety. dodi do you take him at his word on that ? on that? >> well, i'm sure those concerns were raised with him . yes. um, were raised with him. yes. um, i mean, i think that the decision that he took was in terms of pressing , it's an unusual one. pressing, it's an unusual one. it wasn't unprecedented, but there weren't that many precedents for it. nevertheless he he took a decision in which i thought was a reasonable decision, and it ensured that what looked like actually a very popular motion was put to the commons. but of course, many are saying that starmer , many are saying that starmer, many are saying that starmer, many are saying that starmer, many are saying that keir starmer pressured him into it. saying that keir starmer pressured him into it . well, pressured him into it. well,
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certainly the labour party made the case for him to, uh, to ensure that that that motion was voted on. um, and, and i think it's a good thing actually that the motion was voted on because of the degree of support the snp across the house of commons couldn't be voted on because the labour amendment came first. >> that changed the snp motion in effect. and then they couldn't vote on on their motion. i'm afraid we're going to have leave it there and to have to leave it there and cross westminster hall. cross back to westminster hall. but you but sir stephen timms, thank you so time here on. so much for your time here on. good afternoon britain. let's cross political cross across to our political edhon editor, christopher hope, who's in for . us. in westminster hall for. us. >> he's coming up in the brexit years . years. >> uh, geoffrey cox , what's your >> uh, geoffrey cox, what's your position on the speaker's future ? >> well, 7- >> well, i ? >> well, i think he's made a very, very serious error of judgement. >> um , he's apologised for it. >> um, he's apologised for it. >> um, he's apologised for it. >> i think he is going to need to work very hard to restore the
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confidence of the house. i don't think that you can give the impression , as he has explained , impression, as he has explained, as the motivation for his decision yesterday, that the house of commons is going to be affected in its procedures and its proceedings by external threat. what message does it send to dictate traitors and enemies of this country around the world? >> if they think the seat of democracy in the united kingdom can be affected by the threats of people demonstrating on the streets, it was weak . but i streets, it was weak. but i think his position has to be seen in the light of those who put pressure on him. with those argument , put pressure on him. with those argument, it's and put pressure on him. with those argument , it's and whoever put pressure on him. with those argument, it's and whoever did , argument, it's and whoever did, whoever is responsible for putting him in that position and making the arguments to him that he should concede had an important convention because of those threats, has real questions to answer. and i'm afraid that buck must lie at the
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leader of the opposition's door. he aspires to lead this country, and yet he has made arguments to the speaker that we should alter our procedures in this house because of the risks to mps and intimidation that would have people who occupied this house over the years revolving in their graves. >> this very hall . their graves. >> this very hall. in their graves. >> this very hall . in fact, their graves. >> this very hall. in fact, sir keir starmer, you're alluding to there, he's denied putting pressure on the speaker and making any threats about his future as the speaker . that's future as the speaker. that's denied by both the speaker and sir . he's denying sir keir starmer. he's denying what saying. sir keir starmer. he's denying whtno, saying. sir keir starmer. he's denying whtno, don't/ing. sir keir starmer. he's denying whtno, don't think >> no, i don't think he is denying he's saying, denying what he's saying, what he's that didn't he's saying is that he didn't threaten the speaker. but i think the speaker told us think the speaker has told us already arguments already that the arguments that were to him was that mps, were put to him was that mps, labour as well, no doubt possibly as others, but put by the labour party, not by the conservative party, were so frightened by the consequences of voting against a motion put forward by the snp that he should allow this alteration to the proceedings. that was a fundamental error of judgement
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by whomever did it, and we know that the leader of the opposition attended on him for some minutes, and that afterwards the decision was taken. what would be the case if the prime minister had gone to see the speaker and the result half an hour later, was that the speaker had changed his mind to favour the government . there favour the government. there would have been howls of execration and protest. no, this is a very serious error of judgement, but it is not only that of the speaker who has apologised for it, it is that of those people who put the pressure on him to concede to those arguments , he apologised twice. >> now in the space of 18 hours. is that enough to save his job? i'm not calling for lindsay hoyle to go . hoyle to go. >> i think he's been a compassionate, humane speaker who i think was misguided and misled by the advice and pressure he was put under. i think the real question mark resides over a leader of the opposition who was either permitted his party or himself as represented to the speaker ,
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as represented to the speaker, that we should concede weak need to external threats and intimidation. >> how can he carry on if the snp's 50 or so mps don't have any confidence in the speaker ? any confidence in the speaker? >> well, i'm sure he'll work very hard to restore it. and lindsay hoyle has been a is a decent man who tries his best. what i think the lessons for this are that in future we should not have private meetings with the speaker by one party. um, and it has a it has looked extremely bad and the outcome has been extremely bad. but he's apologised for it and i think we now must reserve judgement. do you think, though, that the gaza conflict is so complicated, so divisive in this country? >> there are things are too >> there are some things are too big to be too emotional to debate in the house of commons? >> no, that can never be the case. this is the cockpit of democracy . this the of democracy. this is the seat of democracy. this is the seat of democracy . we must discuss every democracy. we must discuss every issue that affects the nation's affairs. and this certainly does. what i don't think we can does. what i don't think we can do is kowtow to external
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intimidation and if that is the precedent that is being set by the current leader of the opposition, it begs the question, what will happen were he in government and facing similar threats and intimidation 7 similar threats and intimidation ? what kind of argument is it when you go privately and backs stairs to the speaker and urge him to concede a long established principle in this house, because your mps might be threatened outside it? >> of course , the speaker said >> of course, the speaker said that that that that those standing orders were out of date. we live in a multi—party system. three big parties, not just two as they were in 79. so that was why he allowed the second amendment to the opposition day motion. but why did he need to? >> why did he need to allow it? he needed to allow it. and he told us because he was concerned that mps might face intimidation if they voted , as they might if they voted, as they might well, in considerable numbers on the labour side for the snp motion. that was a procedural device, a procedural trickery that enabled the labour party
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not to have to face the question that the snp was posing. why? because because apparently members of parliament that were being intimidated, you know , if being intimidated, you know, if we had kowtowed to that kind of threat over the centuries in this country and in this house, our history would have been very different. >> do you think that britain's enemies let's call them that, will be emboldened to try and influence, put pressure on mps to shape what happens in the house of commons in future? >> increasingly so, cannot house of commons in future? >> irtheisingly so, cannot house of commons in future? >> irthe message, cannot house of commons in future? >> irthe message to cannot house of commons in future? >> irthe message to theinnot house of commons in future? >> irthe message to the world send the message to the world that the british government and above all, the seat of british democracy , will be affected by democracy, will be affected by threats and intimidation . where threats and intimidation. where does that begin? and end? and it is. i'm afraid it is those people who went privately to the speaker and impressed upon him those arguments who should now be facing the real questions . be facing the real questions. why did they bend the knee to the arguments of that kind? what was it if that is the hallmark
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of a future labour government, it begs a great deal of questions as to whether the security of this country is safe in their hands. >> and just in closing, jeffrey cox, let's leave the labour government. if that happens for the should happen the future, what should happen now with lindsay hoyle? what now with sir lindsay hoyle? what how restore the how does he restore the reputation of his office? >> i think he must work. he must meet the leader of government business. the business. he must meet the representatives of the other party. he must talk them. he party. he must talk to them. he must he can to secure must do all he can to secure their again. i think their confidence again. i think it's a mighty task for him to do. i hope he can achieve it because i think he's a good man who was led and misled and went wrong. he's apologised for that error. i hope he can restore confidence in him. well sir geoffrey cox, thanks for joining us today for gb news and tom and ellie. >> you heard there, sir geoffrey cox saying there's a way through this lindsay but it's this for lindsay hoyle, but it's quite get but sir quite hard to get there. but sir geoffrey cox , a senior figure in geoffrey cox, a senior figure in house saying he house of commons, saying he doesn't resign . doesn't have to resign. >> very interesting indeed. thank christopher hope, our
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thank you, christopher hope, our political editor there. so geoffrey very respected geoffrey cox, very respected member of the house, saying actually stick by lindsay hoyle. he's apologised and laying the blame more on the uh the starmer side perhaps that phrase, why did labour bend the knee to argument of that kind to arguments of violence really , arguments of violence really, rather than political debate . rather than political debate. >> it's raising some really clear questions there for the way that those arguments were put to the speaker by senior figures in the labour party . a figures in the labour party. a big, big question. >> let us know what you make of it all. lots of you emailing in to the speaker has to to say that the speaker has to go to say that the speaker has to 9° ' to say that the speaker has to go , some saying that it's go, some of you saying that it's the labour's fault. it's also keir starmer's fault. a lot of you very concerned about the intimidation that mps clearly feel when it comes to which way they vote on matters such as gaza. so keep them coming in. vaiews@gbnews.com. but coming up, we're going to be debating whether the uk is a breeding ground for extremism . and are
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ground for extremism. and are the public at risk. ground for extremism. and are the public at risk . stay with .
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planes. >> when you're listening to gb news radio . news radio. good afternoon . news radio. good afternoon. >> your top stories from the gb newsroom . the common speaker has newsroom. the common speaker has reiterated his apology over his handung reiterated his apology over his handling of the gaza ceasefire debate . sir lindsay hoyle told debate. sir lindsay hoyle told mps he has a duty of care and if he mistakes and if his mistake is to look after members, then he is guilty . he's facing calls he is guilty. he's facing calls to resign for allowing a labour amendment to an snp motion decision , with 59 mps signing a decision, with 59 mps signing a no confidence motion against him . in a joint operation, the uk and jordan have delivered aid to and jordan have delivered aid to a hospital in northern gaza .
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a hospital in northern gaza. suppues a hospital in northern gaza. supplies include essential medicines , fuel and food for medicines, fuel and food for patients and staff. but the foreign secretary lord cameron, saying it will help thousands of people. it's part of an agreement signed by the uk this week to deliver £1 million of aid to gaza . households could aid to gaza. households could see their energy bills fall to the lowest level in two years. energy regulator ofgem is due to announce the latest price cap tomorrow, with experts predicting it will drop by £293 a year. that would see the average household bill falling by 15% from just over £1,900 a year to £1,635 from the start of april . and brazilian footballer april. and brazilian footballer dani alves has been jailed for four and a half years for raping a woman in a nightclub . the a woman in a nightclub. the incident happened in barcelona incident happened in barcelona in 2022. he denied sexual assault, claiming it was consensual , assault, claiming it was consensual, while assault, claiming it was consensual , while the former consensual, while the former defender was also ordered to pay almost £130,000 to the victim. his lawyer says he'll appeal the
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anti—terror programme. he warns the public faces an increase threat of islamist extremism and terrorism because the government is simply not doing enough to tackle them. >> yes, there were also warnings the failure to take tougher action was fuelling a dangerous rise in anti—semitism , and this rise in anti—semitism, and this inaction stemmed from a continued bias within prevent towards tackling the rise in right wing terrorism , rather right wing terrorism, rather than the main threat of islamist terrorism. so we're asking, is britain a breeding ground for extremism? >> well , gb extremism? >> well, gb news presenter patrick christys thinks so. while the author and broadcaster rebecca reid says that britain is not breeding extremism. well, patrick, let's start with you. are we? >> well, we obviously are. and if rebecca wants to call stevie wonder, even he would say that he can see it. it's absolutely common sense that we are breeding extremist . um, and you breeding extremist. um, and you don't have to look very far to see it, you? why do we have see it, do you? why do we have bollards busy bollards everywhere in busy areas ? oh, is that because the areas? oh, is that because the mormons might be driving badly? areas? oh, is that because the morrare; might be driving badly? areas? oh, is that because the morrare weight be driving badly?
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areas? oh, is that because the morrare we looking driving badly? areas? oh, is that because the morrare we looking overig badly? areas? oh, is that because the morrare we looking over ouradly? why are we looking over our shoulders at christmas markets as our home secretary wants us to be some pesky to do? could that be some pesky jehovah's no jehovah's witnesses? no obviously not. is actually obviously not. it is actually because we've got rabid islamist extremism on the march in this country, emboldened by incredibly weak leadership and people who like to slander other people who like to slander other people who like to slander other people who call it out by saying that they are just far right themselves, there is absolutely staggering. and i would just ask , how many have to die? , how many people have to die? how many more manchester arena bombings do we have to have? how many borough markets do we have to people start to have before people start calling it for what it is? calling it out for what it is? mps night bottled a vote mps last night bottled a vote because scared of because they were scared of rabid islamist extremism, but it's us. it's the plebs who have to deal with it on the streets. >> rebecca, i'm still not. i'm still not totally convinced that they bottled the vote because they bottled the vote because they were worried about extremism. >> i think they worried >> i think they were worried about seats. about losing their seats. >> trying to >> i think it's about trying to balance um, wants balance, um, the wants of constituents versus the party's general , um, constituents versus the party's general, um, desire for a specific vote . um, i wouldn't specific vote. um, i wouldn't i'm not trying to suggest there
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isn't a problem with terrorism. >> is a problem with >> there is a problem with terrorism. think that the terrorism. i just think that the problem with terrorism has kind of consists this of been consists ain't in this country the last country throughout the last probably 40 years, from different factions and different groups. >> and i think the there is a perception that the focus on right wing terrorism, particularly the radicalisation of young men , um, which and of young men, um, which and prevent has recently had a very big focus on the kind of andrew tapes of the world, the sort of more angry men, violence more angry men, the violence towards women aspect of terrorism , just because those terrorism, just because those things discussed more, things are being discussed more, doesn't mean they're the doesn't mean that they're the only are prioritised only ones that are prioritised or cared about. only ones that are prioritised or(um, about. only ones that are prioritised or (um, necessarily a lot the >> um, necessarily a lot of the kind police thing and, >> um, necessarily a lot of the kin(watch police thing and, >> um, necessarily a lot of the kin(watch lists.ice thing and, >> um, necessarily a lot of the kin(watch lists around,g and, >> um, necessarily a lot of the kin(watch lists around, uh, d, uh, watch lists around, uh, terrorism have to be private. they can't publicise everything they do all the time otherwise. >> but, um, patrick, sir william shawcross, who's done this review has claimed review into prevent, has claimed that is a priority given that there is a priority given to far right extremism rather than the islamist . than the islamist. >> absolutely. of course there is. our mps and various different people in society will trip over themselves to blame everything other than radical
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islam. mp who was islam. we had an mp who was obviously to death by a obviously stabbed to death by a radical islamist, and i'm in this well , keen not this sense as well, keen to not discount jo discount what happened to jo cox of but of course, that was awful, but it not undermine the fact it does not undermine the fact that major threat is that the major threat is islamist what islamist terrorism. what happened died ? happened when david amess died? oh, on social oh, we had a debate on social media. happened mike media. what happened when mike freer quitting oh, freer said he was quitting? oh, mps more nicely mps need to talk more nicely to each other. why can't they actually grips with the actually get to grips with the real i mean, also , it real problem? i mean, also, it runs deeper than this. the home office, had office, after we had abdul ezedl office, after we had abdul ezedi, now believed to ezedi, who is now believed to have died, was it twice failed asylum seeker okay, the home office decided this is according to edgington to stephen edgington in the telegraph, send any telegraph, to not send any internal that internal memos about that particular bloke round. instead, they were very, very careful to make that they mentioned make sure that they mentioned to staff world hijab staff that it was world hijab day can't offending day and we can't be offending people that. we have people to do with that. we have our priorities all wrong in this country. people country. if you ask people what they scared the they are more scared of, the police , politicians, members of police, politicians, members of the public, they are scared of offending a mob or being attacked mob of radical attacked by a mob of radical islamists about islamists than they are about anyone else in this country. >> well, let's throw that right back you, rebecca. uh, we're
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back to you, rebecca. uh, we're too scared of standing up to the extremism within our society. i don't think so. >> i don't know anybody who's encountered any resistance to saying i dislike terrorism , or saying i dislike terrorism, or i find extreme islam unpalatable or dangerous. >> yesterday, someone told me hamas wasn't a terror group outside parliament. so that person. >> yeah. yesterday somebody also said that, um, israel had planned the 7th of october bombings. >> so attacks so that they could bomb gaza . there are people who bomb gaza. there are people who say stupid , untrue things that say stupid, untrue things that that has always been the case. we know we hear much more content than we ever did. we talk about everything more than we ever did. there is 24 hour news, . we feed the news, constant. we feed the cycle by talking about it. i think is a perception this think there is a perception this problem worse than it ever problem is worse than it ever has and just not sure has been, and i'm just not sure that's think that's true. i don't think it is. we just about is. i think we just talk about it all the time now. >> we currently a group of >> we currently have a group of people not from people who are not even from this the this particular school, the michaela who michaela academy army, who are taking school to the high taking that school to the high court because they didn't want to a prayer room in that to put a prayer room in that school. extremism. we've
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school. that is extremism. we've had had had people outside, we've had people grammar people outside batley grammar school , okay, terrorising a school, okay, terrorising a teacher who's had to go into hiding. okay as a result it. hiding. okay as a result of it. and we've had an autistic lad who's scuffed a copy of the quran. mum marched down quran. his mum gets marched down to mosque to the local mosque with two police tow, to police officers in tow, to apologise members of the apologise to members of the local there and you local community. there and you tell that that's not tell me that that's not extremism to to extremism specifically to the to your case. your last case. >> absolutely. that was a failure policing and we all failure of policing and we all we all know major issues we all know i have major issues with the police. um, to the michaela that's with the police. um, to the mic really that's with the police. um, to the mic really exactly that's with the police. um, to the mic really exactly what that's not really exactly what happened. pupil the happened. it is a pupil at the school who led and school who led this and specifically they are not saying they had to prayer room they had to have a prayer room in school. they're saying in the school. they're saying people have to be able to pray at classroom. and at lunchtime in a classroom. and thatis at lunchtime in a classroom. and that is within the realm of what you to able you would expect to be able to do under a religious freedom in any sensible, safe any given sensible, safe country. think it's very country. so i think it's very easy up of these, easy to rack up all of these, especially the especially if we take the absolute juiciest bit of the headune absolute juiciest bit of the headline then look headline and then not look at the body the article the total body of the article and sound like there's a and make it sound like there's a worse problem there worse problem than there actually . there have always actually is. there have always been people at the extremes been bad people at the extremes of all religions, and all
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groups, and those people still exist ever did. but exist now as they ever did. but that mean the that does not mean that the problem than ever been. >> ask jews about that. >> ask jews about that. >> absolutely, as islamophobia >> i absolutely, as islamophobia and anti—semitic attacks and abuses have been on the rise completely, specifically , completely, specifically, massively anti—semitism, just as when covid started, there was an enormous spike in anti—asian and anti—asian hate crime. there is anti—asian hate crime. there is a real issue with the when any group is overrepresented the group is overrepresented in the media, they become targets. we have a fundamentally racist and intolerant society . intolerant society. >> we have a fundamentally racist intolerance society. dup i find that absolutely staggering, given that we are not seeing protests on the streets about record levels of net migration year on year. we're not seeing massive demonstrations the streets demonstrations on the streets about across the about people coming across the channel despite the fact that in this that this very report that we are talking it talking about today, it namechecks what's happening in terms illegal immigration and terms of illegal immigration and tells specifically we tells us specifically that we are importing terrorists. i spoke jenrick , who is spoke to robert jenrick, who is also immigration also former immigration minister. of course, he's seen behind curtain who could not behind the curtain who could not behind the curtain who could not be clearer that we importing
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be clearer that we are importing people who wish to at times blow us up in this country. we are not seeing massive marches on the this. are the streets about this. we are not society . if not an intolerant society. if i would argue we're importing people who are incredibly intolerant. actually, i think we are an intolerant society in the sense is an enormous sense that there is an enormous issue with anti—semitism in this country. >> there is an enormous issue with have with islamophobia. we have a record hate crimes record levels of hate crimes that not suggest that that is not suggest that everybody a racist . and everybody here is a racist. and i again, not suggesting for i am again, not suggesting for a second tory government second that the tory government have job with have done a great job with immigration 12 immigration for the last 12 years. done a really, years. they've done a really, really appalling job. no one is suggesting doing suggesting that things are doing well i fundamentally well, but i still fundamentally think you, you are , think that what you, if you are, if you are only looking at the islamic part of the terrorism issue, what you are only looking at of the puzzle, at one piece of the puzzle, it is wider that. is wider than that. and fundamentally, the fundamentally, this is about the fact only recruit , fact that you can only recruit, you people you can only radicalise people who are vulnerable and unhappy. and if you look at that, you can actually undo it. you can't radicalise happy , radicalise a happy, well—balanced excuse me. well—balanced person. excuse me. yes, can, because you put yes, you can, because you put pressure them. pressure on them. >> right >> what's happening right now in our people are
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our politics is that people are going door and going door to door and campaigning, going door to door and campaigning , they asking campaigning, and they are asking those doorstep , those people on the doorstep, how to respond on how are you going to respond on judgement ? there clips how are you going to respond on ju
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very much indeed, patrick christie's is, of course, on at 9:00 tonight. >> so jealous of patrick getting to have the airtime when the moon landing. it's going to be live . it's going to be live streamed. it's going to be at 1030. our time. it's get this. the first american this. it's the first american moon since 1972. moon landing since 1972. and it's the size of a london post box. >> do you know what, though? i think rebecca is right that obviously we see more than ever before, but i do. it just feels complacency. we can't have complacency. >> i misspoke, i meant i meant a phone box, not a post box. sorry. we should get back on the substantive. there's complacency. >> yes. clearly and it's been allowed fest for allowed to, uh, fest for islamist extremism. anyway but coming up, uh, civil servants demanding a four day working week. but for the exact same pay- week. but for the exact same pay. is that lazy or is that rather sensible ? at least we rather sensible? at least we won't have pay more. you won't have to pay them more. you could
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radio. now 59 members of parliament from both the snp and the conservative party have put their names to a motion calling for no confidence in the speaker of only 50. >> there's still 5959 there. this losing momentum? well, 59 have put their names to the motion , although as we were motion, although as we were discussing a little bit earlier, the leader of the snp group in the leader of the snp group in the house of commons has said that all snp mps have lost confidence in the speaker, even though not all of them have put their names to this motion. >> so this motion has 59 names on it, although stephen flynn's name on it for example, name isn't on it for example, even though said he no. even though he said he has no. so it could be a far larger number, a larger number who say so it could be a far larger nuthave larger number who say so it could be a far larger nuthave no 'ger number who say so it could be a far larger nuthave no confidence, who say so it could be a far larger nuthave no confidence, ratheray they have no confidence, rather than who put their than the number who put their name specific motion. name to this specific motion. >> shall we speak to gb >> well, shall we speak to gb news political correspondent olivia utley, who is in westminster? olivia thank you very much for your time. lots has been going in the commons has been going on in the commons since tell since the chaos last night. tell me assessment of what me your assessment of what we're seeing .
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seeing. >> well . absolutely. emily has >> well. absolutely. emily has been all go in the house of commons today and i don't think that this campaign against the speaker is losing momentum as tom said there, stephen flynn , tom said there, stephen flynn, the leader of the snp in westminster , has said that he westminster, has said that he has no confidence in the speaker and neither do rest of the and neither do the rest of the snp, which could possibly mean that speaker hoyle's position is now untenable . now simply untenable. >> it's interesting what's going on in the commons today because there are lots of different opinions on what sir lindsay hoyle motivation was behind that really unusual step he took yesterday. >> there are those, particularly on the tory benches and on the snp benches, who believe that lindsay hoyle was simply showing bias towards the labour party and helping keir starmer get out of a tight political spot . but of a tight political spot. but and actually , this is i agree and actually, this is i agree with this assessment point that lindsay hoyle was telling the truth when he claimed , as he truth when he claimed, as he repeated in parliament today , repeated in parliament today, that the reason he made this
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precedented call to select the labour motion was because he worried that if he didn't , then worried that if he didn't, then labour mps would come under threat for not calling for a ceasefire in gaza. now that is an extraordinary situation . we an extraordinary situation. we are in a position where mps in parliament are scared to vote with their consciences because of fear of intimidation in their own constituencies , and you own constituencies, and you could even say that the protesters , the people who are protesters, the people who are putting pressure on these mps , putting pressure on these mps, the people who are threatening these mps, ended up by a roundabout way, dictating the way the house of commons was run last night. lindsay hoyle, he claims, made that decision essentially to try and keep mps safe. now to me, that is the real story here. what sort of a situation are we in when mps are having to act in a way that keeps them safe in their own constituencies , lindsay hoyle
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constituencies, lindsay hoyle still may well end up being, uh, it may be his head that falls after all of this, but there is after all of this, but there is a nastier situation bubbling away underneath the surface , and away underneath the surface, and sooner or later the mps and the government is going to have to tackle it . tackle it. >> parallel conversations here. on the one hand, there's the issue of mps fearing for their safety, and perhaps that's why the speaker acted in the almost unprecedented way that he did . unprecedented way that he did. but on the other hand, there's this conversation about the pressure that the labour party and the labour party leadership put upon the speaker, almost making them bend to making him bend to their will simply because it's likely that they will form the next government . will form the next government. that's a hugely concerning issue. if this is the way that the labour party leadership is going and manipulate what going to try and manipulate what the speaker of the house of commons to do their bidding. >> well , to be honest, tom, >> well, to be honest, tom, i think it's a hugely concerning situation. either way , we will situation. either way, we will never know the exact motives
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behind lindsay hoyle's decision yesterday, but either , as you yesterday, but either, as you say, it was the case that the labour party were putting huge pressure on the speaker. there was a rumour at one point yesterday that keir starmer said that lindsay hoyle could stay in his job as speaker as long as he backed the amendment, essentially bribing him to do labour's bidding. of course , labour's bidding. of course, that would be a very, very concerning situation, but in my mind the other option is just as concerning that lindsay hoyle acted as he said he acted for mps safety because he was worried about the backlash to mps in their constituencies if they didn't vote for that gaza amendment i. the situation is deeply, deeply concerning and speaks to a deep problem in british democracy. >> absolutely. and it seems like mps are now more willing than ever to speak up about the intimidation they're feeling. lots of speeches in the house of commons to that effect, not least from speaker himself, least from the speaker himself, but i just want to get you on
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one story, another headache one more story, another headache for the government, civil servants demanding a four day working at for working week, but at least for no pay . no more pay. >> well, you say that emily, i think there might be demands for more pay as well. uh, fran heathcoat, who is the head of the pcs, which is the biggest union representing civil servants, has written to the cabinet office, uh, asking to significantly reduce the civil servants, the civil civil service working week. and one option, which she has reportedly considering is bringing the week down to four days, uh, separately , she is also asking separately, she is also asking for, uh , some more holiday for for, uh, some more holiday for civil servants . she would like civil servants. she would like to see civil servants holiday raised to 35 days. that's seven more days than the legal requirement in the uk. and she is also asking for more pay. it's not clear whether the extra pay it's not clear whether the extra pay and the four day week would would go together. perhaps these are two separate suggestions that she's putting on the table ,
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that she's putting on the table, but either way, it all feels pretty punchy from the civil service >> yeah, it does indeed. 35 days of holiday. that'd be nice, wouldn't it? what would you do with all that time? >> i genuinely don't know what i'd be able to do. i keep not having. keep not taking enough i'd be able to do. i keep not having. andep not taking enough i'd be able to do. i keep not having. and thent taking enough i'd be able to do. i keep not having. and then having! enough i'd be able to do. i keep not having. and then having! ersorth holiday and then having to sort of at end of the of scramble at the end of the year what to do with my holiday. >> 35 very interesting though culturally, there is culturally, isn't it? there is this massive shift to, uh, more work life balance being the most important thing. do you think people scared of graft, or people are scared of graft, or is a civil service? i is it just a civil service? i don't know. >> well, thanks, olivia . yeah. >> well, thanks, olivia. yeah. thank you, olivia, for bringing us that. i think i think that to some extent the civil service does have reputation for being does have a reputation for being , um, for, for, for being what are you gonna say, stable for being more flexible than other, um, sectors. and perhaps one of the reasons why people will, uh, prefer why it's an attractive career option is even though it's not the best remunerated job in the world, uh, perhaps you can get in a little bit
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late, leave a little bit early . late, leave a little bit early. well, i have heard from friends who've worked in the civil service that there is a very much a clock off early , um, culture. >> that's to not say there aren't very hard working clock off early and get in late culture, because there are some very, very hard working. >> there aren't, >> i'm not saying there aren't, but the problem is but but i think the problem is it's get of the it's very hard to get rid of the ones hardworking. ones who aren't hardworking. >> that too. >> yes, i've heard that too. very get rid of anyone very hard to get rid of anyone in in the civil service. really you've got go through many, you've got to go through many, many . loops. you've got to many loops. loops. you've got to jump many loops. loops. you've got to jump hurdles . sometimes jump many hurdles. and sometimes it's to keep it's in order to do so to keep someone who's awful at their job on, but sort of shunt them off into then into a different role, and then you this extraordinary you get this extraordinary situation the civil situation where the civil service workforce has expanded by hundreds of thousands of people. >> and yet it seems that the quality of the work that is done , um, perhaps hasn't improved by the degree . the same degree. >> but do think a lot of >> but i do think a lot of people wanting part people are wanting to go part time , even when they're quite time, even when they're quite young. time, even when they're quite young . we've got a part time young. we've got a part time culture these days. >> don't know if flexible >> i don't know if flexible working is such a bad thing .
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working is such a bad thing. >> i mean, the home office in particular has a problem with working home. it's where working from home. it's where it's where the it's the department where the most work home, most people work from home, working home, office, the working from home, office, the working from home, office, the working home office. working from home office. instead i just got that. yes. let us know what you think about civil servants wanting the same pay civil servants wanting the same pay for only four days a pay, but for only four days a week. and presumably also week. and presumably they also want too. and 35 days want a pay rise too. and 35 days houday want a pay rise too. and 35 days holiday to boot. and that will be on top of , of course, be on top of, of course, christmas, new year's day, easter, etc. etc. >> well, stay with us here on gb news because soon we'll be discussing the issue of someone who might have to take some compulsory off. is the compulsory time off. is the speaker safe in his job? will be with the very latest from parliament after these messages . parliament after these messages. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsor of weather on . gb news. >> good afternoon. welcome to your latest gb news weather
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gb news. >> good afternoon britain. it's 2:00 on thursday. the 22nd of february. could hoyle go? >> the speaker faces a mounting campaign of no confidence as dozens of mps call for him to step down. snp's westminster leader tells sir lindsay hoyle
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that he has no confidence in him, as sir keir starmer denies threatening the speaker over the gaza debate . gaza debate. >> a breeding ground for extremism. the government's prevent programme prioritises tackling right wing terrorism over the main threat of islamist extremist ism. that's according to a new report . what is the to a new report. what is the pubuc to a new report. what is the public being put at risk and fury has been sparked over plans to house asylum seekers in a tiny cumbrian town in the grips of a housing shortage . of a housing shortage. >> eight properties are being used to put up around 40 newcomers we'll newcomers from overseas. we'll be live the ground be live on the ground. >> now it's an electric day in the house of commons following the house of commons following the chaos of last night. there have been 59 mps who have put their names to a motion of no confidence in the speaker. but more on top of that 59 number who have said verbally that they
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have no confidence in the speaker . speaken >> the yes, and lots of you have been getting in touch, vicky says. believe lindsay says. i believe that lindsay hoyle spoke the when he hoyle spoke the truth when he said he allowed labour said he allowed the labour amendment to concerns about amendment due to concerns about mps safety. yes, that's what the speaker is saying. he's saying that he was worried about mps who having threats their who were having threats to their lives, sharon says lives, whereas sharon says clearly there was some unethical interfere from the labour party's leader beforehand and leading to his fellow labour buddy, sir lindsay hoyle. >> irrational decision. on the actual day of the vote that was supposed to be on the snp's amendment, yes , sharon says, and amendment, yes, sharon says, and some you are that the some of you are saying that the speaker is appeasing extremists by that decision. by making that decision. >> speaker the >> mark says the speaker of the house the green house has now given the green light any extremist group to light to any extremist group to intimidate politicians get intimidate politicians to get their , and jane thinks their own way, and jane thinks she has a solution . she has a solution. >> i think the only thing parliament can do is to present the snp motion in its original form again , and the other form again, and the other parties original positions to vote again to see what happens , vote again to see what happens, because course jane's right. because of course jane's right. they actually get to vote
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they didn't actually get to vote on snp amendment after all on the snp amendment after all of that befuddlement . of that befuddlement. >> we need. well, >> oh, just what we need. well, let know think. gb let us know what you think. gb views com but it's views at gb news. com but it's your . your headlines. >> emily. thank you. 2:02. your top stories from the gb newsroom . the commons speaker has reiterated his apology over his handung reiterated his apology over his handling of the gaza ceasefire debate. sir lindsay hoyle told mps he has a duty of care and if his mistake is to look after members, then he's guilty. he's facing calls to resign for allowing a labour amendment to an snp motion. 59 mps have now declared no confidence in the speaken declared no confidence in the speaker. sir keir starmer has denied threatening him or influencing any decision . influencing any decision. >> i've been categoric to tell you that i did not threaten the speaker in any way whatsoever. i simply urged him to ensure that we have the broadest possible debate and your mps broadest possible debate . um, so that
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possible debate. um, so that actually the most important thing which is what do we do about the awful situation in gaza, could be properly discussed by mps with a number of options in front of them. that's the right thing to do. the speaker did the right thing in making sure the debate was brought . brought. >> commons leader penny mordaunt last night claims the speaker had hijacked the debate today. she defended him as a decent man and blamed labour for causing chaos in the commons. >> nothing is more important than the interests of the labour party . the labour party before party. the labour party before principle, the labour party before it , principle, the labour party before it, individual rights. the labour party before the reputation and honour of the decent man that sits in speaker's chair here. the labour party, before fairness , party, before fairness, integrity and democracy , we in a integrity and democracy, we in a joint operation, the uk and jordan have delivered aid to a
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hospital in northern gaza, suppues hospital in northern gaza, supplies include essential medicines , fuel and food for medicines, fuel and food for patients and staff, with the foreign secretary , lord cameron, foreign secretary, lord cameron, is saying it will help thousands of people. >> it's part of an agreement signed by the uk this week to deliver £1 million of aid to gaza. deliver £1 million of aid to gaza . households could see their gaza. households could see their energy bills fall to the lowest level in two years. energy regulator ofgem is due to announce the latest price cap tomorrow, with experts predicting it will be dropped by £293 a year. that would see the average household bill falling by 15% from just over £1,900 per year to 1635 from the start of april . employers could be sued april. employers could be sued if they don't make reasonable adjustments for menopausal women in the workplace . the equalities in the workplace. the equalities watchdog has issued guidance for companies to clarify their legal obligations. simple terms include hot flushes, brain fog
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and difficulty sleeping , which and difficulty sleeping, which can be considered a disability. under the 2010 equality act if it impacts the woman's ability to carry out usual day to day activities . women's health activities. women's health minister maria caulfield says adjustments like letting women work from home can really help . work from home can really help. >> we are losing women in the workplace to symptoms of the menopause, but my experience i meet lots and lots of employers up and down the country. we're talking about women at the peak of career , women with lots of their career, women with lots of their career, women with lots of experience who are then struggling menopausal struggling with menopausal symptoms. employers i speak symptoms. most employers i speak to actually want to keep women in are asking in the workplace and are asking for help and how to do that. that's as government, that's why as a government, we've first we've taken on our first menopause employment champion. simple proper simple things like proper ventilation in the workplace, even material of uniforms even the material of uniforms that women wear at work makes a difference . difference. >> parents who lose a baby before 24 weeks of pregnancy in england can now receive a certificate in recognition of their loss . the scheme is their loss. the scheme is designed to acknowledge the grief of parents who experienced
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this . the new certificates will this. the new certificates will be official but not legal documents, and they're optional. people in scotland can already apply people in scotland can already apply to have losses recorded in the memorial book of pregnancy and baby loss. prior to 24 weeks, all parents affected since september 2018 can apply . since september 2018 can apply. by. police chiefs are calling for new powers to allow them to instantly ban drink or drug drivers at the sight of the road. they say it would allow them to take drivers who pose a risk to others off the road immediately . currently, drivers immediately. currently, drivers charged with drug or drink driving offences are banned following a sentencing hearing in court , but that can take in court, but that can take weeks which time drivers weeks during which time drivers are allowed to back behind are allowed to get back behind the wheel. national police the wheel. the national police chiefs council for roads policing also want tougher punishments drivers who kill punishments for drivers who kill while under influence, while under the influence, including potential murder charges for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. com slash alerts now back to tom and
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. emily >> good afternoon britain. it's 2:07, and as the fallout from the chaos that descended on the house of commons yesterday continues, the entire snp group in westminster have confirmed that they have lost their confidence. their party no longer has confidence in the speaker . sir lindsay hoyle, last speaker. sir lindsay hoyle, last evening we saw the best of this house in its ability to debate and we also saw the worst of this house as it descended into farce . farce. >> and i think i speak for everyone in in the chamberjust now, and indeed yesterday when i expressed my deep sorrow that that was able to happen, given the content of what it was , we the content of what it was, we were debating . were debating. >> nevertheless, mr speaker , it >> nevertheless, mr speaker, it descended into farce because of the decision that you made, and you alone made to ignore the
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advice that was given to you by the clerks and as i have expressed to you privately prior to proceedings here today , we do to proceedings here today, we do we do not on these benches, therefore believe that you can continue in your role as speaken continue in your role as speaker. we do not have confidence in your ability to do so . so i would therefore welcome so. so i would therefore welcome clarity either from yourself or indeed from the leader of the house, as to how we can best facilitate a vote in this chamber at the earliest possible occasion . stunning occasion. stunning >> that's the snp group leader saying no confidence in the speaker of the house of commons from his benches. let's return to our political editor, chris hope, who's in westminster hall for us, and chris, just how significant is this statement from snp ? from the snp? >> well, it's huge . and you >> well, it's huge. and you heard the way that stephen flynn
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was speaking there. he of course leads the third biggest parliamentary group of mps, 50 or so snp mps, if they've all lost confidence in the speaker, along with dozens of tory mps who are getting towards 80. no wonder i was told a few hours ago that we could be could be on to 100 by monday . now, to buy 100 by monday. now, i should say that over lunch i've been talking to various key figures around this. there is a an effort now to try and save lindsay hoyle . um, senior tories lindsay hoyle. um, senior tories are going to go and try and see him work out a way forward. and it seems to me the only way that lindsay hoyle can save his bacon it seems to me the only way that lirthisy hoyle can save his bacon it seems to me the only way that lirthis pointe can save his bacon it seems to me the only way that lirthis point is:an save his bacon it seems to me the only way that lirthis point is probably1is bacon it seems to me the only way that lirthis point is probably come:on at this point is probably come out and say that he recognises that what he did , although it that what he did, although it came from the best of intentions , look like it favoured , did look like it favoured labour because either it takes the off mps by giving the heat off the mps by giving them another option to vote, not for policy gaza or for the snp policy on gaza or the or concern the government's um or concern for their safety, but either way it's either emboldened the enemies of the country. as we heard from geoffrey cox an hour or ago on this program . um,
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or so ago on this program. um, or so ago on this program. um, or helps the labour or else it helps the labour party . so what or else it helps the labour party. so what think tories party. so what i think tories want to see, and maybe the snp two lindsay hoyle to two is lindsay hoyle to recognise that what he did showed a degree of bias towards laboun showed a degree of bias towards labour, and he needs to, needs to guarantee and make very clear, i think, to the house of commons, that in future he will make sure he is completely fair and private meetings and won't do private meetings with starmer. with sir keir starmer. >> you suspect senior >> why do you suspect senior conservatives standing by conservatives are standing by sir hoyle ? i think they sir lindsay hoyle? i think they think he's a decent man. >> um , some people have been >> um, some people have been talking to over lunchtime to say that they think the party has lost head. it's trying to. lost its head. it's trying to. the is trying to the tory party is trying to distract its own difficulty distract from its own difficulty , hasn't , as lindsay hoyle hasn't really, i don't think, been a bad speaker for the government or any party. he's done or for any party. he's done pretty well, i think, since 2019, and staying above party debate, getting drawn into debate, not getting drawn into picking sides as john bercow was accused joining brexit accused of joining brexit debates. um i think he just it's slightly coming from nowhere really. and also they're kind of wondering who's going to replace him . would it be rosie winterton
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him. would it be rosie winterton , would it be one of the other, other two, other tory deputies ? other two, other tory deputies? um, it's not really clear. and it's not really clear why the tories want to get rid of lindsay hoyle. if not just to cause trouble for labour. cause some trouble for labour. i think that that's part of the concern and gone quite concern and it has gone quite far now . far now. >> some names being thrown >> yeah. some names being thrown around and include bradley around and include karen bradley , who of course is chairing the procedure committee in the house of commons. so she knows her procedural onions , if you want procedural onions, if you want to put it like that . some other to put it like that. some other names perhaps eleanor laing, one of the deputy speakers , um, of the deputy speakers, um, maybe even william wragg, who's putting forward this motion of no confidence. chris bryant well , chris bryant well, chris. >> well , yes. , chris bryant well, chris. >> well, yes. now you've mentioned three tory mps and one labour mp there. and that's because it should go back to a tory candidate next to be the speaker of the commons only for a short period until the election. and then that candidate would stand again. william wragg would be surprising standing
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surprising because he's standing down for hazel grove at down as mp for hazel grove at the election. the two the next election. the other two are not. um, yeah. i mean, i think, you know , books are being think, you know, books are being opened mean , no opened about this. i mean, no one week as being the one saw this week as being the week when a speaker would fall. and you the last and let me tell you the last time, happened was 2009. time, this happened was 2009. the it happened before the last time it happened before that, hadn't so we are that, well, it hadn't so we are into historic territory again , into historic territory again, and it just shows the febrile nature of this place, think. nature of this place, i think. and think for me , the speaker and i think for me, the speaker can he's meeting this can say this. he's meeting this afternoon, um, with, uh, penny mordaunt and other senior figures from different parties to try and find a way. very to try and find a way. it's very clear the, whips , the clear that the, the whips, the government whips, the government is keir is trying to go after keir starmer putting lindsay starmer for putting lindsay hoyle in this position. that's the politics of it. but it looks like it's been a disastrous decision by lindsay hoyle . and i decision by lindsay hoyle. and i can't see how you get around the snp statement there in the commons that for me looks like it could be fatal for him. i don't unless stephen flynn can be brought back on side and agree to work with lindsay hoyle. i don't see how he gets past that. >> absolutely. we're looking at
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this number of 59 that have signed to william wragg's no signed up to william wragg's no confidence but actually, confidence motion. but actually, if you up number of snp if you add up the number of snp mps and the number of tories who've signed that motion, you get to 7676 mps who implicitly or explicitly have no confidence in the speaker. >> exactly. is 80 or so. and i was told by a very senior figure who was a friend of lindsay hoyle's on the tory side. he thinks that by by monday, it could be 100. you're faced with nearly 1 in 6 tory mps don't have confidence you. have confidence in you. you know, you to have a vote of know, you have to have a vote of confidence. and of course, those you can't just vote of you can't just win a vote of confidence. can't get confidence. you can't just get more than 325. you've to win more than 325. you've got to win it. as we saw with boris johnson and previous tory battles over confidence issues, got confidence issues, it's got to be convincing win . i think be a convincing win. i think the only does i think , only way he does that, i think, is he he has to probably is he has to he has to probably have at for putting have a go at labour for putting him in this position. if he if he did that the speaker's he did that from the speaker's chair , saying he was put into chair, saying he was put into position by labour, which has damaged the office of the
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speaken damaged the office of the speaker, and won't happen speaker, and that won't happen again that that again. were we to say that that might save the day. >> it's going to be very hard for him to do that after he's apologised different basis apologised on a different basis with a different reasoning. but thank indeed . thank you very much indeed. >> apologised to sorry . >> apologised to sorry. >> apologised to sorry. >> go on. »- >> go on. >> sorry. i was going to say i was to say he's apologised was going to say he's apologised twice in 18 but the twice in 18 hours, but the apology been the same. apology has been the same. i mean, it hasn't really moved at all, apart him how all, apart from him saying how sorry got show it i >> -- >> yes. well, thank you very much . christopher hope, our much. christopher hope, our political editor here. so okay, so it's 60, 70 potentially 100 after the weekend . what happens then. >> well, should we get the answer from michael crick? the journalist and author ? because journalist and author? because michael , i journalist and author? because michael, i suppose this is a really difficult situation . really difficult situation. christopher hope, our political edhon christopher hope, our political editor, was saying that he's really got to sort of put a sop towards the tories to say, look, i'm not a biased labour speaker, but if he does that, he might be signing his own death warrant come after the next election .
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come after the next election. >> i know it's very tricky and, um, i think the conservatives will be tempted . to uh, change will be tempted. to uh, change the speaker now . the speaker now. >> so while they have a majority in the house of commons, rather than wait till after the next election when it looks like labour will have a majority, or at least the opposition parties will a majority combined. will have a majority combined. and the fear, i think , amongst and the fear, i think, amongst conservatives will we'll just conservatives will be we'll just get another labour speaker . get another labour speaker. >> labour will be partisan in that and vote for another labour speaken that and vote for another labour speaker. and of course, we've had four speakers in a row now , had four speakers in a row now, three of whom had been labour mps and one of whom, john bercow i >> although he was a conservative mp later, is now labour and indeed was regarded at the time as being partisan , at the time as being partisan, uh, towards labour. and i think that's that's true. >> and michael, it was fascinating. sorry to sorry to interrupt. >> michael. it's our turn. sorry >> michael. it's our turn. sorry >> it was fascinating that john bercow was elected in 2009 at the sort of dying embers of the
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last labour government . some say last labour government. some say that the reason why that was all pushed to happen then was that it was a labour majority house of commons that could select him as a very left leaning tory mp who ended up in the labour party as opposed to waiting for the new parliament to elect a new speaken new parliament to elect a new speaker. exactly >> and whoever is elected, if lindsay hoyle does fall and i think the odds are looking like he will um, then whoever is elected will be automatically re—elected by the new house, even though the new house could be, you know, 250 new members in it . it. >> uh, they will be, you know, it's not the time to sort of start elected a different speaker and so on. >> you a bit of continued >> you want a bit of continued kitty >> you want a bit of continued kitty session to session. kitty from session to session. so the, uh , it's, uh, so the, the, uh, it's, uh, that's , you know, i think those that's, you know, i think those are some of the thoughts going through people's minds. as for this lindsay hoyle this idea of lindsay hoyle saying, , okay, um, you saying, well, okay, um, you know, a change is explanation. i think as chris has suggested, he should do the trouble with that is that undermines him , really, is that undermines him, really, because it of implies he
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because it sort of implies he wasn't totally in wasn't being totally frank in his previous , uh, explanations. his previous, uh, explanations. >> it is a very difficult >> so it is a very difficult situation for him. >> having said that, i think there are, you know, there are bigger here than who is bigger issues here than who is speaker of the house of commons. uh, the first issue is , you uh, the first issue is, you know, the suggestion that comes uh, the first issue is, you kno of the suggestion that comes uh, the first issue is, you kno of the of ggestion that comes uh, the first issue is, you kno of the of ggesthat that comes uh, the first issue is, you kno of the of ggesthat mps comes out of all of this that mps behave is becoming influenced by the threat of violence , which is the threat of violence, which is absolutely dreadful and absolutely dreadful and absolutely appalling situation to be in. and there's a number of have made the point, of people have made the point, including viewers, that of people have made the point, incllthat viewers, that of people have made the point, incllthat is viewers, that of people have made the point, incllthat is only ewers, that of people have made the point, incllthat is only going that that that is only going to encourage pressure encourage further pressure on them by further threats on them. and of course, at the heart of all this is the whole debate about the terrible things that are happening right now the are happening right now in the middle number of middle east and the number of people being killed, and people who are being killed, and gaza ceasefires on. gaza and ceasefires and so on. and it doesn't really look and it it doesn't really look great that you're discussing great that if you're discussing an issue as momentous as that, it boils to down whether the it all boils to down whether the speaker should continue in office or not. >> yes, you're right, it does, i imagine, rather imagine, look rather self—indulged isn't to a lot of members of the public. but on that point, on sir lindsay
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hoyle's explanation that he was doing this to protect mp s safety, he spoke about how he doesn't want to have to pick up the phone to find out that a friend has been killed by a terrorist . this is a real terrorist. this is a real concern . and we've heard now concern. and we've heard now from a number of members of parliament saying exactly the same thing. >> no, no. and of course , we've >> no, no. and of course, we've seen two members of parliament murdered in the last few years. >> david amess and, um, jo cox, uh, and huge threats against other members of parliament like mike freer. uh who announced his retirement the other day and, and explaining that threats have played a role in that. it really is an appalling situation that we are getting into here. and on the one hand, you can understand , uh, lindsay hoyle's desire to protect members of parliament and their safety. on the other hand , as has been suggested on hand, as has been suggested on your program, you are only encouraging future threats and future violence. >> yeah you are.
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>> yeah you are. >> this is an appalling situation that we're in right now. and i think that issue is really more important than who is the speaker and who isn't. and as chris says, you know, he has been a pretty good speaker. i don't recall, uh, i don't i don't recall, uh, accusations of him being partisan . um, and i partisan before. um, and i think, um, you know, the story that came out yesterday about labour putting pressure on him , labour putting pressure on him, uh, to, uh, take their amendment. and if they didn't, um , then, uh, then he, you know, um, then, uh, then he, you know, they wouldn't vote for his re—election. i think that is an appalling i mean, that story was denied by labour, of course. and it's denied by starmer that it's been denied by starmer that he put pressure on he himself put any pressure on hoyle. think that's an hoyle. but i think that's an appalling as well appalling situation as well that, that, that labour should, as is alleged , bully him in that as is alleged, bully him in that manner. so this reflects badly on, uh, quite a lot of people. >> um, well , on, uh, quite a lot of people. >> um, well, it's a murky business, but michael crick , business, but michael crick, thank you for making so much of it so clear for us here on. good afternoon britain. >> yes. very interesting indeed. to get michael crick's assessment . um, up next, though,
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assessment. um, up next, though, we're back in the seaside town of millom, where there's been a lot sparked plans lot of fury sparked over plans to house asylum seekers. despite there severe housing there being a severe housing shortage . there's also been shortage. there's also been quite a bit of vandalism . um, quite a bit of vandalism. um, see you very shortly
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radio. >> well, it's 223 on watching and listening to good afternoon britain. now the independent reviewer of prevent the government's anti—terror program , has warned the public that they face an increased threat of islamist extremism and terrorism because government simply because the government is simply not doing enough to tackle them. well >> e we re e were warnings e were warnings that >> there were also warnings that the take tougher the failure to take tougher action fuelling a dangerous action was fuelling a dangerous rise anti—semitism , and this rise in anti—semitism, and this inaction stemmed from the continuing bias within prevent towards tackling the rise in right wing terrorism , rather right wing terrorism, rather than the much larger threat of
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islamist terrorist ism. >> well, let's get more on this now with gb news reporter charlie peters. has the government an associate agencies taken their foot off the gas when it comes to tackling islamist extremism? well, home secretary james cleverly very much wants you to believe that thatis much wants you to believe that that is not the case, saying on tuesday in a progress report soon after the shawcross review into prevent last year that the core mission of counter extremism was still there and progress had had been made, he said of course , that counter said of course, that counter extremism is an area of government policy where there is always flexibility and learning points , but fundamentally that points, but fundamentally that they had undertook taken the work in response to the shawcross review , however, shawcross review, however, william shawcross has hit back, saying the glass is still only half full. >> he said yesterday the government has published a report saying that they have made some of those changes that i asked for, that i proposed, but not enough stuff. and he
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said quite alarming that the pubucis said quite alarming that the public is still at risk because the government had ignored some of his recommendations. of the 34 recommendations he's made , 34 recommendations he's made, the home office say 30 have been passed, but but sir william is pointing in particular around the issue of hamas. pointing in particular around the issue of hamas . he says that the issue of hamas. he says that it sympathises and indeed organises have had insufficient attention paid towards them in britain. and he also points about a wider failure in anti—semitism in the prevent duty. prevent is the government's counter extremism strategy. it is a public duty placed on authorities such as schools, nurseries and hospitals to refer people towards counter extremism. practitioners if there are signs of concern, we should say that sir william, his review was criticised after he said that islamist extremism didn't receive sufficient attention . some civil rights attention. some civil rights groups said that that was islamophobic. however, the
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government has accepted that that was correct and now says that was correct and now says that islamist extremism is the number one threat. they also agreed that far right extremism and terrorism was to emboldened in its counter extremism coverage. it was given far too great a status. in its report . great a status. in its report. yes, but sir william's saying that insufficient lessons have been learned . and hours after he been learned. and hours after he made these remarks last night, of course, we saw some of what he was agitating against occurring in parliament, in parliament square, just outside big ben. and we saw the to what many are perceived to be a genocide tidal chant broadcast onto the palace of westminster , onto the palace of westminster, uh, raising, i think perhaps a reinforcement of his analysis of the prevent duty. >> yes, charlie, this is the from the river to the sea chant. the words blazoned on parliament using a laser display last night, which many people, many jewish people, interpret as the wiping out of the state of israel from the river jordan
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through to the mediterranean sea. but, charlie, we heard today in parliament really powerful interventions from members of parliament, like like robert jenrick, like andrew percy , who've been talking about percy, who've been talking about the threats that they receive as members of parliament. and i suppose this only ties in to this issue that we've been talking about, that there is this sense that perhaps not enoughis this sense that perhaps not enough is being done, particularly to combat islamist terrorist . terrorist. >> um, and sir william shawcross , in that review last year , , in that review last year, found that its counter extremist practitioners within the prevent duty hadn't actually done any work on hamas for years. and now he's warning, you know, some time after that report released last year, that since october the 7th, many of those sympathisers and ignored and organisers having been ignored by those practitioners, are now emboldened and analysts i've been speaking to today fear that those remarks are accurate and that extremist are being
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emboldened by the lack of activity faced on them and the wider failures to counter anti—semitism . this, they say, anti—semitism. this, they say, is leading to some of the scenes we saw last night in excusing some of those lower tier embarrassments on the streets of london, you lead to more grave breaches that we saw last night with that chant being broadcast onto the palace of westminster . onto the palace of westminster. >> yes, it seems like many of our mps are clocking to on this issue. thank you very much indeed, charlie peters, our reporter. there >> now, fury has been sparked over plans to house asylum seekers in a tiny cumbrian town in the grips of a housing housing shortage, with eight properties being used to put up to around 40 newcomers in from overseas. >> yes. so the police in the area have had to increase patrolling after one of the houses was vandalised with graffiti reading not welcome scum. well let's cross to william now. >> millom now, and speak to our nonh >> millom now, and speak to our north west reporter. uh sophie reaper. sophie, this is an
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extraordinary tale . extraordinary tale. >> it is indeed. and i think it's really important to point out the reason mainly for that outcry is because the people of millom had no idea about the proposed plans until it was revealed on social media. that includes the council and the mayor. they had no idea that this was planned for their town , this was planned for their town, with a really relatively small population. we've been here this morning. we went and saw the houses, those proposed hmos , houses, those proposed hmos, with the graffiti on the side. now, the mayor of millom has condemned the graffiti in any kind of vandalism . we spoke to kind of vandalism. we spoke to her earlier on this morning and this is what she had to say was just a reaction from the community. >> we condemned. we condemned the graffiti, the anti—social behaviour. and since we've actually been communicating , actually been communicating, talking, the community has settled down. we're waiting for answers from our mp trudy
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harrison. so hopefully tonight she will be able to give the community the answers to the questions that they have . questions that they have. >> well, the community are hoping for answers tonight . hoping for answers tonight. there's a meeting here in millom at around 6:00 where they'll be hoping for answers. the plans have until now, so have been paused until now, so that the community can be allowed to get those answers. now, of course, the people responsible for housing asylum seekers is the home office . gb seekers is the home office. gb news have reached out to them , news have reached out to them, and this is what they've come back with. we've always been upfront about the unprecedented pressure being put on our asylum system, brought about by a significant increase in dangerous and illegal journeys into the country over recent years. the home office has a statutory duty to provide safe and secure housing for asylum seekers, and we are continuing to work closely with local authorities, including in millom, to manage any impact in the area and address local
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concerns. now i think the feeling here in millom that is that thus far that hasn't been done. for one, they weren't informed about the planned hmos . informed about the planned hmos. so i think going forward, especially at this meeting tonight, there will be a lot of questions about how going forward they can strike that balance between housing the asylum seekers , but also making asylum seekers, but also making sure that it's appropriate for this small town of millom . this small town of millom. >> sophie, thank you very much for bringing us the concerning story . and of course, that, um, story. and of course, that, um, really, really appalling graffiti as well. sophie reaper thank you. >> yes. thank you. now up next, we'll be speaking to sir davey . who? >> oh, the leader of the liberal democrats. uh, will we speaking to the leader of the liberal democrats after this ? democrats after this? >> good afternoon. >> good afternoon. >> it's 232. these are your top stories from the gp newsroom. the common speaker has reiterated his apology for the handung reiterated his apology for the handling of yesterday's debate
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on the gaza ceasefire. sir lindsay hoyle told mps he has a duty of care and of his mistake was looking after members of the house. then he says he's guilty. he's facing calls to resign for allowing both the government and labour amendments to be debated . labour amendments to be debated. more than 60 mps have now declared no confidence in the speaken declared no confidence in the speaker. sir keir starmer has denied threatening him or influencing any decision . in a influencing any decision. in a joint operation. the uk and jordan have delivered aid to a hospital in northern gaza . hospital in northern gaza. suppues hospital in northern gaza. supplies include essential medicines , fuel and food for medicines, fuel and food for patients and staff, with the foreign secretary , lord cameron, foreign secretary, lord cameron, saying it will help thousands of people. it's part of an agreement signed by the uk this week to deliver £1 million of aid to gaza . households could aid to gaza. households could see their energy bills fall to the lowest level in two years. energy regulator ofgem is due to announce the latest price cap tomorrow , with experts tomorrow, with experts predicting it will drop by £293
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a year. that would see the average household bill falling by 15% from just over £1,900 a year to £1,635 from the start of april . and brazilian footballer april. and brazilian footballer dani alves has been jailed for four and a half years for raping a woman in a nightclub. the incident happened in barcelona incident happened in barcelona in 2022. he denied sexual assault, claiming it was consensual . the former defender consensual. the former defender was also ordered to pay almost £130,000 to the victim. his lawyer says he'll appeal the decision . for the latest decision. for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen, or go to gb news. com slash alerts . well news. com slash alerts. well let's jump straight back to westminster now and join our political editor, christopher hope, who's joined by the leader of liberal democrats , sir of the liberal democrats, sir ed davey.
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>> tom, emily. >> tom, emily. >> thank you. yes, sir. david's with me now . ed davey. should with me now. ed davey. should the speaker resign? no. >> liberal democrats have full confidence speaker hoyle. he confidence in speaker hoyle. he was in a very difficult position in gaza , has got lots of in gaza, has got lots of emotions . in gaza, has got lots of emotions. it's a very important issue . and to make sure all issue. and to make sure all views were heard, i think he approached that with with a degree of gravity, rightly. plus he had to consider the issues about mp security and safety as we've heard. so it was a difficult position , but i think difficult position, but i think we should respect him . we should respect him. >> he's in a mess though, isn't he ? here he met with a rival of he? here he met with a rival of yours, sir keir starmer, privately in a meeting room. was that right ? that right? >> it happens all the time. i have private meetings with the speaker from time to time. i'm offered this interview. i'm going so you going to see him myself. so you know, that sort of thing happens . and i think it is reasonable for party leaders, party whips to talk about issues about mps security safety and to make security and safety and to make sure the speaker knows those. >> how can he stay on given the
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third biggest party, you're the fourth party, the third fourth biggest party, the third biggest the house of biggest party in the house of commons snp have commons that the snp have withdrawn him? withdrawn support for him? >> i think have >> well, i don't think they have a veto who is the speaker of a veto on who is the speaker of the house commons, nor should the house of commons, nor should they be. and to honest , um, they be. and to be honest, um, uh, while i hope we can come together on the issue of such importance as gaza and send a unhed importance as gaza and send a united signal to the government of that we don't want of israel that we don't want them attack rafah , that there them to attack rafah, that there should immediate bilateral should be an immediate bilateral ceasefire that we need the aid in innocent in for those innocent palestinian civilians, and we need hostages released. and need the hostages released. and there should be a peace process. need the hostages released. and theineedyuld be a peace process. need the hostages released. and theineedyuld lmessagee process. need the hostages released. and theineedyuld [message sent. ess. need the hostages released. and theineedyuld [message sent. um, we need that message sent. um, and what slightly worried me about the snp over a number of days and weeks , actually, is days and weeks, actually, is that sometimes seen this that they've sometimes seen this in of domestic politics. in terms of domestic politics. and i regret that actually, because it's such a serious issue. we were trying to persuade them to amend their motion to take on some aboard of what we were saying in our motion, didn't get called, motion, which didn't get called, um, to talk about the um, in order to talk about the longer terme, the need for a two state particular, state solution in particular, and process towards that and a peace process towards that . and the snp do that.
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. and the snp wouldn't do that. and we were left with a little bit of feeling and a suspicion bit of a feeling and a suspicion that they weren't that for that they weren't doing that for domestic political reasons, rather than what was in the interests of palestine. >> you're seeing lindsay hoyle in what will in 20 minutes or so. what will he be telling him? that we have confidence and that he confidence in him and that he has our full support , and we has our full support, and we recognise it was a difficult, uh, decision, difficult position given the need to hear all voices , the need to take into voices, the need to take into account mp safety and security. >> and i also want to listen to him what he has to say. him to hear what he has to say. >> there you're >> with respect there you're a smaller party in house of commons. parties , labour commons. the big parties, labour and the tories, they're fighting over this. do you think he over this. what do you think he needs to do , sir lindsay hoyle needs to do, sir lindsay hoyle needs to do, sir lindsay hoyle needs to do to restore the confidence of the house of commons in him. >> of all, i think commons in him. >> two of all, i think commons in him. >> two of of all, i think commons in him. >> two of the )f all, i think commons in him. >> two of the parties think commons in him. >> two of the parties need to the two of the parties need to do remember, is a serious do remember, this is a serious issue and need to put party political point scoring aside. i think the country expects that , think the country expects that, and i think people who want to see peace and a ceasefire and support for palestinian
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civilians and the release of the hostages, they want the parties to come together . and i think to come together. and i think trying to attack each other and attack the speaker just trying to attack each other and attack the speakerjust is, is really not good enough. we need a mature , grown up politics. and a mature, grown up politics. and i'm afraid if the two parties continue to rallye this , that it continue to rallye this, that it sends a dreadful signal. i think . is he biased? >> no. i've certainly never experienced that . experienced that. >> uh, he calls you enough. >> uh, he calls you enough. >> he gives lib dems enough time. >> well, we'd always, always like more, uh, i he knows that. i think we should have more questions prime minister. questions to the prime minister. for . and i'm sure he for example. and i'm sure he knows that we'd our knows that we'd like our amendment and we make amendment called and we make representations to him . but, you representations to him. but, you know, you have to understand that within the that he works within the standing orders within convention. >> he broke those standing orders. that's the point, isn't he? he changed the orders to allow vote. allow labour a vote. >> break standing >> he didn't break standing orders understanding. orders is my understanding. he he convention. he interpreted the convention. and there have been precedents, actually happened last actually, for what happened last night. so . so i think night. and so. so i think there's a lot of heat in this debate. the gravity of
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debate. and given the gravity of the substance of the issue, i really regret that actually. >> is it being driven by the tories ? they want to have a tory tories? they want to have a tory speaker to go into the next election . election. >> i think you'll have to ask the that, um, the conservatives that, um, i think become quite a think they've become quite a shambolic government, actually , shambolic government, actually, as a governing party, they seem split many, many ways and can't make their decisions as one of the reasons why the nhs is in such a mess. the economy's in such a mess. the economy's in such mess and i'm afraid if such a mess and i'm afraid if the to get the conservatives need to get their act together and i don't really should pay really think we should pay a party over who's the next party games over who's the next speaker speaken >> matter though. but >> it doesn't matter though. but yes , we geoffrey cox yes, we had sir geoffrey cox earlier. that if you earlier. he said that if you take the speaker at his word, he made clear he was taking these these this measure to allow labour mps to vote on one of their party's policies rather than the snp or government policy . given that geoffrey cox policy. given that geoffrey cox said it allows britain's enemies, the enemies of this place, to put pressure on your colleagues across all parties and then affect business and the house of commons, and that's not
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great. >> i have to say. i think that's rather odd comment. there's nothing the speaker has said or done , which i think opens up to done, which i think opens up to that threat any greater than it was before. well in a sense that he's allowed you know, the concern about safety of mps to, to affect what happens in the house of commons chamber. well, i think he's right to worry about that. of course he, he, he he should. but that wasn't the only reason . i think he made only reason. i think he made that clear . and if that had been that clear. and if that had been the reason , i think one the only reason, i think one could issue and make could debate that issue and make sure that we were doing everything can make sure everything we can to make sure that mps who have suffered that those mps who have suffered these are fully these threats are fully protected. of course, i think the public would would want that, it was also about the that, but it was also about the substance and the need to have different views heard. and i think did his best on that think he did his best on that point. yeah. okay >> so ed davey there, the leader of the liberal democrats, thank you joining us on you for joining us today on gb news with of news there with a vote of confidence speaker, sir confidence in the speaker, sir lindsay seeing him lindsay hoyle, and seeing him in 20 that's cheering 20 minutes. so that's cheering words for speaker. words for the speaker. >> cheering words for the
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>> well cheering words for the speaker there from leader of speaker there from the leader of the democrats. the liberal democrats. but, chris, were talking, chris, as you were talking, another been added another name has been added to that confidence. that motion of no confidence. now at 61, official names backing that motion, christopher , thank you very much for bringing us that from sir ed davey. >> interesting. he, uh, well, he played down the meeting that keir starmer had with the speaker saying, oh, you know , speaker saying, oh, you know, this is normal to have meetings with the speaker like this . he with the speaker like this. he very much backed the speaker. lindsay hoyle himself . khalife. lindsay hoyle himself. khalife. he seems to be he's saying all we wanted to improve the motion a little bit ourselves. and he didn't really want to be drawn on the issue of intimidation of mps. >> no, it's curious , should we >> no, it's curious, should we get the thoughts of our political correspondent olivia utley, to that utley, who was listening to that interview, and olivia , what was interview, and olivia, what was your big takeaway . your big takeaway. >> well, i mean, ed davey definitely does represent the opinions of a fair amount of mps in parliament, and we mustn't forget that his takeaway, his his , his, uh, feeling was
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his, his, uh, feeling was essentially that lindsay hoyle has never shown any signs of bias before his record is unimpeachable. i think almost everyone in westminster would agree with that. and that actually he was making, uh , uh, actually he was making, uh, uh, the only possible decision in a very distressing set of circumstances. now there will be sympathy for lindsay hoyle , sympathy for lindsay hoyle, certainly, even if he does end up falling on his sword. but the question, of course, is whether what he did can be justified . what he did can be justified. died. people have mps i've spoken to have laid it out like this . it's either, uh, spoken to have laid it out like this. it's either, uh, sir lindsay hoyle was pressuring by the labour party into selecting their amendment, which would obviously be disgraced . or sir obviously be disgraced. or sir lindsay hoyle was acting , uh, lindsay hoyle was acting, uh, from very good intentions to try to protect mps who might be under threat of danger if they were to not vote for a ceasefire in gaza. well that might be a
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respectable thing to do. but you could argue that it gives fuel to the fire of extremists who are trying to put pressure on mps if their actions end up with the speaker responding to them . the speaker responding to them. there is an argument that that is just sort of giving in to terror, if you like, allowing the dictate what the extremists to dictate what happensin the extremists to dictate what happens in our parliament is simply sort of giving in to the mob. so there are mps who argue, counter to davey, that either counter to ed davey, that either way, sir lindsay hoyle has to go. it'll be fascinating to see how this develops over the next few days. as you said, tom, that motion of no confidence in the speaker has now reached 61 signatures and significantly , in signatures and significantly, in the last half hour or so, stephen flynn, the leader of the scottish national party, has signed it all of all of the other snp mps are very likely to row in behind him on that, and if that's the case, it does begin to look as though the speaker's position is untenable, even if he has the support of ed davey, maybe that'll be a consolation to him .
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consolation to him. >> you have 61 mps who are backing this motion of no confidence so far . do we have confidence so far. do we have a clear idea of what happens next? procedurally >> well , that's a really >> well, that's a really interesting question. i mean, getting rid of a speaker, there is no sort of formal mechanism to do it. the hope and expectation from these mps will be that if there is enough pressure on sir lindsay hoyle, he will stand down. uh back in, i think it was 2020 15. he will stand down. uh back in, i think it was 202015. uh, william hague tabled a motion of no confidence in the speaker, john bercow, at the time it fell through , nothing happened. and through, nothing happened. and eventually , as we know, john eventually, as we know, john bercow got to choose the moment of his own resignation. michael martin, another speaker there were i think it was 22 mps who signed a motion of no confidence in him and at that point he simply chose to fall on his sword and resign. i think the expectation from these mps is that it wouldn't actually have to get to a situation where they
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would have to vote it . it would would have to vote it. it would just be the case that lindsay hoyle would feel the pressure, would accept that he didn't have the , well, the the confidence of, well, the snp, third biggest in snp, the third biggest party in the house of commons, and would sort the the right the house of commons, and would sort and the the right the house of commons, and would sort and step the right the house of commons, and would sort and step aside right the house of commons, and would sort and step aside for ht thing and step aside for somebody . who person somebody else. who that person would question , would be is another question, which i'm sure we'll talk about lots in the coming days. >> the runners and riders >> yeah, the runners and riders for the role , of course. it's a for the role, of course. it's a very tempting role for conservative mps in particular, because it normally is supposed to go labour, then conservative, then labour, than conservative. lindsay hoyle, of course, was a labour . there are to be labour mp. there are going to be lots mps who are looking labour mp. there are going to be lottheir mps who are looking labour mp. there are going to be lottheir majorities, 10 are looking labour mp. there are going to be lottheir majorities, thinking oking at their majorities, thinking you know don't want to you know what, i don't want to stand as a conservative. you have have action. i'd want to have to have action. i'd want to stand the speaker and then stand as the speaker and then you official opponent. you get no official opponent. you to have a very you have to have a very meticulous attention detail, meticulous attention to detail, don't knowledge of >> and knowledge of parliamentary not parliamentary procedure to not all of our mps probably have that. no >> well, olivia utley, thank you very giving very very much for giving us the very latest the reaction latest on that and the reaction to support to ed davey's effusive support for sir lindsay hoyle. but i do
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think, i do think if i was a tory mp sitting on a majority of , you know, 3000 odd, i'd think, goodness me, sign up, get to be mp hat in the ring, get to be speaken mp hat in the ring, get to be speaker. and then the labour party doesn't stand against you. the dems stand against the lib dems don't stand against you. don't stand you. the greens don't stand against got a free against you. you've got a free run. >> yeah, it looks run. >> it looks like >> well, yeah, but it looks like it's tricky job. it's a very tricky job. >> it certainly is a very difficult job. eyes on you. >> accusations of bias here. there but coming there and everywhere. but coming up, change the up, we're going to change the tone little because employers tone a little because employers could be sued for disability discrimination. get this if they fail to make adjustments for menopausal women, is that right? should, uh, the menopause be treated like a disability? more on that shortly
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week or one hour per week per fortnight. >> you're listening to gb news radio pad with all these little words. >> oh, hello. we were just talking. we came back a little quicker than we were expecting. anyway, to to anyway, we're going to move to something that's very important for .
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things like room temperature , things like room temperature, where they've been asked to provide quiet rooms and offer flexible working for women dunng flexible working for women during the menopause. but the question is, should menopause be treated like a disability? joining us now to discuss this further is leadership and wellbeing coach doctor renee al falaki. thank you very much indeed for joining falaki. thank you very much indeed forjoining us. renee are you surprised that the menopause could be treated under law as a disability ? me um , surprise and disability? me um, surprise and very disappointed actually. >> i am ijust feel very disappointed actually. >> i am i just feel that, you know, in this world where women have come so far and worked so hard for their rights , do they hard for their rights, do they really want to be labelled as
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having a disability for something that is actually completely natural and a natural biological phenomenon? >> um, i, i would go so far as to think it's a it's a disgrace . to think it's a it's a disgrace. um, my, my thoughts on the matter are that a lot of menopause is misunderstood. >> and i've been reading about how it's portrayed in the press at the moment, particularly around this subject , at the moment, particularly around this subject, and at the moment, particularly around this subject , and people around this subject, and people talking about hot flushes and brain fog . brain fog. >> i think what we have to remember is it's actually so much more than that. and i've certainly witnessed over the years patients going years clients and patients going through a massive change, huge levels of anxiety, inability to cope with what they used to be able to cope with and then subsequently possibly leaving their jobs. subsequently possibly leaving theirjobs. but subsequently possibly leaving their jobs. but what we've also got to understand that women in their 40s and 50s are, while going through this biological change, also going through change, are also going through other things. marriage break ups, often they complain ups, um, often they complain about how they arguing with their husbands or they feel misunderstood and or unseen or
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not heard, and all of these things are going to contribute to that level of anxiety. the same as if they start changing their eating habits or they start exercising less again . start exercising less again. when you notice your body change, going lead to change, it's going to lead to levels of anxiety . so to levels of anxiety. so to just sit and label it as this sit there and label it as this is and i should be is menopause and i should be treated , uh, as if i have treated, uh, as if i have a disability is completely unreasonable. and i think the point is, is we're on earth. is it ever going to end ? um, i it ever going to end? um, i certainly want to. wouldn't want to be termed disabled and i happen to be a 50 year old woman who, yes, does have hot flushes. uh, i think we all have to make make room for other people, but that comes through understanding other people. it comes through emotional intelligence. it comes through empathy and it comes through empathy and it comes through compassion and trust within the workplace . because within the workplace. because you could equally argue men of the same age are disabled because they they're they're being , uh, they're too scared on being, uh, they're too scared on what they can and cannot say .
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what they can and cannot say. and they probably also , through and they probably also, through relationship difficulties at home, because they may well have a wife who's screaming at them. so, you know . yeah. fantastic. so, you know. yeah. fantastic. cool down. cool down the room. allow me to wear what i want to wear. but that's the same as if i'd had a bereavement and i'd gone work. i would my to gone to work. i would want my to boss some sympathy and boss show me some sympathy and some that boss show me some sympathy and sonperformance that boss show me some sympathy and sonperformance might that boss show me some sympathy and sonperformance might not that boss show me some sympathy and sonperformance might not be that my performance might not be quite as good for that period of time. disability, though . i just time. disability, though. i just think it's going way too far and we in this we just we're living in this fear based society, which just point view , what a balanced point of view, what a balanced point of view, what a balanced point of view, what a balanced point of view. >> doctor renee seem >> doctor renee you seem to you're yes you're acknowledging that. yes it debilitating , but it can be debilitating, but actually calling it a disability does women absolutely no favours us. >> us. >> and certainly this idea of suing companies off the back of it, it's surely it's going to make companies less willing to hire women of a certain age . hire women of a certain age. >> and i will tell you, you know, in the days when i, when i my original background was in dentistry and i would see people countless times having their
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practices and not wanting to hire people of a certain age because it would impact so much on a small . and it it, i know of on a small. and it it, i know of course, we live in this world, which we should of diversity, equality, inclusion vision. but it will it will put people off it will it will put people off it absolutely . it absolutely. >> and they kind of inadvertently make, uh, make victims of women who don't want to be seen in that way. they don't want the fact that there are a lot of women probably don't want people necessarily don't want people to necessarily know going through know that they're going through the these the menopause, and all these allowances being and allowances are being made. and i imagine most employers would be kind enough to make some kind of allowances on a 1 to 1 basis. but there you go. thank you. that's all we've got time for, unfortunately. but thank you very much for speaking to us, doctor al fayed, doctor renee al fayed, leadership and wellbeing coach, doctor renee al fayed, leadyinteresting.vellbeing coach, doctor renee al fayed, leadyinteresting. really,|g coach, doctor renee al fayed, leadyinteresting. really, really:h, interesting. >> and interesting. >> you know, and really, really good across there. good points made across there. but uh, not looking forward to the know got a the menopause. know you've got a long way to go. >> hopefully you can get it early. >> i'm every day is a school day but i'm coming up next. it's martin daubney and martin.
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what's coming up on show ? what's coming up on your show? so >> well, i'll just stop hoyle as the 59 signatures grow , the bid the 59 signatures grow, the bid to get rid of speaker sir lindsay hoyle grows . will he lindsay hoyle grows. will he survive? he's clinging on at the moment by his fingertips. plus political extremism . last night political extremism. last night i was egged outside parliament by pro—palestinian protesters as the police simply looked on as from the river to the sea projected on big ben. people wearing ski masks. the police had no interest in quashing the mob and were also crossing to millom, the town in cumbria. that's saying enough is enough about asylum seekers and their tiny town. but all of that, after your latest weather forecast . for forecast. for >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> good afternoon. welcome to your latest gb news weather update with me, annie, from the
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met office. there's further heavy rain to push eastwards through rest of the day, but through the rest of the day, but it to turn drier it will start to turn drier across west the next across the west over the next few hours. heavy rains few hours. the heavy rains as a result weather front result of this weather front that's eastwards result of this weather front that's today eastwards result of this weather front that's today , eastwards result of this weather front that's today , it's eastwards result of this weather front that's today , it's going nards result of this weather front that's today , it's going to 'ds through today, it's going to stall over the next few hours across southeast, but across the far southeast, but behind colder and behind it is turning colder and dner, behind it is turning colder and drier , so some further heavy drier, so some further heavy rain to come in the east. we have warnings still have got weather warnings still in wind in force here, as well as wind warnings in the far south—east, but behind it it will turn drier for areas through tonight. for many areas through tonight. so a much drier night to come, but it will colder night as but it will be a colder night as we've got that colder air. so we could low as —3 or could be down as low as —3 or 4 in the north tomorrow. as low as minus one in rural areas minus one in some rural areas further south, frost will be fairly though because fairly limited, though, because we fairly brisk we do have a fairly brisk westerly through friday. westerly breeze through friday. that's going to be pushing in showers from the west through the day . they'll be most the day. they'll be most frequent western areas. frequent across western areas. here merge into quite here they could merge into quite longer spells of bringing longer spells of rain, bringing a hail and thunder. a risk of hail and some thunder. the will drift into more the showers will drift into more eastern areas in afternoon , eastern areas in the afternoon, but it but through the morning it should largely dry. here. should stay largely dry. here. there'll be plenty sunny
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there'll be plenty of sunny spells as well. temperatures much to average for the much closer to average for the time of year across the uk. showers should die down over friday night. slowly but surely to leave a much drier picture for saturday morning . but for saturday morning. but they'll quite a lot for saturday morning. but th
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gb news. well. >> good. good afternoon. it's 3 pm. welcome to the martin p.m. welcome to the martin daubney show on gb news. broadcasting live from the heart of westminster all across the uk . on today's show house of commons speaker sir lindsay hoyle has reiterated his apology
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for his handling of the gaza ceasefire debate after last night's chaos. he was accused of helping labour leader sir keir starmer avoid another damaging revolt over the ceasefire . we'll revolt over the ceasefire. we'll bnng revolt over the ceasefire. we'll bring you all the latest on this just stop hoyle. it's also emerged civil servants are demanding a four day week for the same pay, and they want extra holiday on top. can you blooming well? believe it, they'll work from home anyway, don't they? i'll be speaking to a tory mp for his thoughts on this work. shy scandal shortly , this work. shy scandal shortly, and fury has been sparked over plans to house asylum seekers in a small cumbrian town in the gnps a small cumbrian town in the grips of a housing shortage , grips of a housing shortage, with eight properties set to be used to put up around 40 migrants will head there soon for a full inside story that's all coming up in your next hour. thank you for joining all coming up in your next hour. thank you forjoining me on the thank you for joining me on the show today. it's always a
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