at i'm here broadcasting live at cpac in maryland . i'll be joined cpac in maryland. i'll be joined by donald trump's daughter in law, lara trump, now a co—chair of the rnc . we'll talk about of the rnc. we'll talk about trump's takeover of the conservative movement in america and i'll be joined by a british guest that's here. yes, former prime minister liz truss will join me live on the program, too. but before all of that, let's get the news with polly middlehurst . middlehurst. >> nigel, thank you. and good evening to you. well, the top story from the gb newsroom tonight is that the prime minister says he is very concerned about commons concerned about the commons speaker's the gaza speaker's handling of the gaza ceasefire debate yesterday . it ceasefire debate yesterday. it comes after dozens of mps stormed out of parliament last night , with tempers flaring stormed out of parliament last night, with tempers flaring as three of the biggest political parties sought to outmanoeuvre one another over the vote . sir one another over the vote. sir lindsay hoyle has since reiterated his apology for allowing both government and labour amendments to be debated . labour amendments to be debated. rishi sunak says changing the

usual parliamentary way of working is a very slippery soap. >> the speaker has apologised as my understanding for what happened last night, because the usual ways in which parliament works were changed and that is concerning, the speaker said he's to reflect on that, he's going to reflect on that, but this and but the substance of this and the position is the government's position is very clear. we to an very clear. we want to see an immediate in what's immediate pause in what's happening in gaza so that we can get more aid in and, crucially , get more aid in and, crucially, get more aid in and, crucially, get the hostages out, including the british hostages, and we can use that as a foundation to build a sustainable, lasting ceasefire. but that involves hamas having no part to play in future governance of gaza . future governance of gaza. >> rishi sunak well, as you were hearing, 67 mps have now signed a motion of no confidence in sir lindsay hoyle, and they're calling for him to resign. that includes more than half of the mps in the scottish national party, with snp westminster leader steven flynn telling the speaker his position is now untenable and sir keir starmer says the speaker did definitely did the right thing by selecting

labour's amendment in the debate. but he denies threatening him or influencing his decision making in any way. now, in other news today, a fourth person has been charged with criminal damage after a greenpeace demonstration at rishi sunak home last august. the activists climbed onto the roof of the prime minister's home in yorkshire, draping huge sheets of black fabric over it. it comes after the crown prosecutor service authorised criminal charges against three others earlier this week . two others earlier this week. two women and a man , the uk and women and a man, the uk and jordan, teamed up to airdrop critical aid to a hospital in northern gaza. today, the uk funded shipment, flown in by the jordanian air force includes essential medicines, fuel and food, with the foreign secretary , david cameron, saying it will have an immediate impact, adding that thousands of patients will benefit from the life saving airdrop. it comes as international calls continue for an urgent humanitarian pause to speed up additional aid flights and bring hostages home.

hundreds of victims . of the post hundreds of victims. of the post office horizon it scandal will have their names cleared under new legislation. the government says the law, set to come into effect in july, will overturn the convictions of hundreds of wrongly accused subpostmasters . wrongly accused subpostmasters. post office minister kevin hollinrake conceded some guilty individuals may also be exonerated . but he said the exonerated. but he said the unprecedented intervention will deliver long overdue justice. for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. com slash alerts . to gb news. com slash alerts. >> good evening to all of you . >> good evening to all of you. well, i have to say, the scenes in westminster, the scenes in parliament square last night were nothing short of a total disaster , and i think it was disaster, and i think it was best summed up by backbench conservative member of

parliament andrew percy . parliament andrew percy. >> months. i've been standing up here talking about the people on our streets demanding death to jews, demanding jihad , demanding jews, demanding jihad, demanding intifadas as the police stand by and allow that to happen. >> last night, a genocidal call for from the river to the sea, palestine will be free was projected onto this building that that message says no jew is welcome in in the state of israel, or in that land . israel, or in that land. >> well, andrew percy, they're very, very passionate and i think. absolutely right. and let's just have a look at what was projected onto big ben last night. this is quite extraordinary. and there it is from from the river to the sea, projected onto big ben in central london. now we know what from the river to the sea means. it means the abolition of the state of israel . and frankly, state of israel. and frankly, the eradication of the jewish people that live there as well. thatis

people that live there as well. that is how damaging, people that live there as well. that is how damaging , dangerous that is how damaging, dangerous and nasty that message is. and i wonder , what do the police do wonder, what do the police do about it.7 well, they've issued this statement and i can't think of anything , frankly, more of anything, frankly, more weaselly . they talk about weaselly. they talk about circumstances in which this might be offensive , but they've might be offensive, but they've decided in this particular case there would be no further action. and that's been the pattern, folks, that has been the pattern ever since the first pro—palestinian march , which pro—palestinian march, which took place in london on the saturday after the october 7 attacks in israel . our police attacks in israel. our police are allowing people to go on to the streets to chant hate slogans, and they're doing absolutely nothing about it. and why.7 because they're fearful of the result and actually, westminster are mps are now scared for their own safety, scared for their own safety, scared to speak out. and i wonder whether lindsay hoyle's decision yesterday to allow the labour amendment was also based on fear . but i do think some of

on fear. but i do think some of the finger of blame must be put on to sir keir starmer here. he was earlier on today defending his position. remember he met with speaker hoyle yesterday morning . morning. >> i can categorically tell you that i did not threaten the speaker in any way whatsoever . i speaker in any way whatsoever. i simply urged him to ensure that we have the broadest possible debate and your mps, the broadest possible debate. um, so that actually the most important thing, which is what do we do about the awful situation in gaza could be properly discussed by mps with a number of options in front of them. that's the right thing to do. the speaker did the right thing in making sure the debate was broad. >> well, it's all pretty weaselly stuff, i'm afraid. whether it was him, whether it was the labour chief whip, somebody put pressure on the speaken somebody put pressure on the speaker. uh, the speaker says he was concerned about the safety of mps. the fact that a british speaker of the house of commons

even says that shows you that fear now stalks the corridors of westminster. and what lindsay hoyle did yesterday, frankly , hoyle did yesterday, frankly, was to try to appease extremist voices in this country , voices in this country, threatening everything we stand for as a free, open democracy. so my question to you is, should hoyle go .7 give me your thoughts. hoyle go.7 give me your thoughts. farage at hoyle go? give me your thoughts. farage at gbnews.com or as someone said earlier, just just stop. >> hoyle . >> hoyle. >> hoyle. >> hey, i'm sure that'll be in the cartoons tomorrow or the day afterwards. well joining me down the line is danny kruger , the line is danny kruger, conservative member of for parliament devizes. and, danny, you're one of i think it's 57 members of parliament that have called on the speaker to go, um, is that movement gaining momentum ? um, and do you have momentum? um, and do you have a credible alternative ? credible alternative? >> i think there has been growth today in the numbers of people who've signed that motion . so, who've signed that motion. so, yes, whether it will grow much

more, we'll see. and no, i'm not aware that there is an obvious alternative, but there's a number of deputy speakers who could step up if lindsay steps down. listen , nigel, your down. but listen, nigel, your analysis is right that the real problem we've got here is that a significant number of people in this country are prepared to make death threats against politicians. so so significant that those mps fear for their safety . and i'm afraid to say , safety. and i'm afraid to say, appear to have been , uh, appear to have been, uh, pressured into changing their vote or to communicating to their party leadership that they need to vote in a certain way. because of this threat. i am sure you're right that keir starmer passed that threat on to the speaker , who in a very, the speaker, who in a very, i think, understandable concern for the security of mps , took for the security of mps, took what i think is the very wrong decision to change the procedures of the house of commons in response to the threat of political violence, rather than doing what he should have done, which is to identify the people who are at risk and ensure that they're properly protected. well i put it to you

that in last night there was a, you know, quite a big demonstrate action going on in parliament square. >> everyone waving palestinian flags, projections onto big banner from the to river the sea. palestine shall be free. how did i mean? just tell me honestly, how did mps feel last night as they left the house of commons by foot or by car, having to go through that crowd ? having to go through that crowd? >> well, i think most of us left by alternative routes because we were aware of the demonstration. i must say i didn't know while we were in there that those slogans were being projected onto the building. that is a very serious thing. and i think it's i share your concern about the mets response to that. the fact is that is a genocidal call to arms. uh, and while sometimes it might be acceptable to say it in certain circumstances last night and, and the side of big ben is not that time and place. so i think it's very wrong that that was allowed to go on. i've been calling for many months

that we should be curtailing, in fact , that we should be curtailing, in fact, stopping the marches that happen through london every, every weekend. i think we have a real problem of civil order in our streets . and the police, i'm our streets. and the police, i'm afraid to say, are only, as it were, keeping order by allowing blatant criminality to go on under their nose . so we have under their nose. so we have a problem on the streets, but as you're suggesting, we have you're suggesting, we also have a parliament. and a problem in our parliament. and while think that lindsay while i do think that lindsay hoyle's is at the hoyle's position is at the moment untenable, let's see how he recover confidence he manages to recover confidence . he's obviously working hard at that. . he's obviously working hard at that . the real problem lies that. but the real problem lies with the labour party , which with the labour party, which decided use these threats for decided to use these threats for purely advantage purely party political advantage . if keir thought it was . if keir starmer thought it was so that people change so important that people change their behaviour in parliament because of these threats, he should his to should have allowed his mps to vote. snp motion. instead, vote. the snp motion. instead, he played politics and leant on the speaker to change the sequence of amendments to ensure that the labour amendment could be voted on. it's very wrong . be voted on. it's very wrong. >> everything says to me, danny, that what we saw in london yesterday, what we saw outside

parliament, inside parliament, the decision of the speaker , the decision of the speaker, everything says to me that sectarian politics is now here, something we've i mean, we've seen it in northern ireland, but neverin seen it in northern ireland, but never in our lifetime in our country have we seen religious sectarianism in politics. and my contention is that it's now here, and i'm afraid i think it's here to stay. what say you? >> well, we need to stand up to it, nigel. and uh, without wishing to weaponize this very difficult conflict further, i. i do think the problem is lies with the labour party, which is split down the middle about israel and keir starmer is clearly incapable of keeping that under control. and if that split under control. and if they win the election, they they will be, uh, this is the sort of government we're going to look to and sectarianism will be brought into government, not just parliament. so i think just into parliament. so i think we have an enormous challenge on our as a country this our hands as a country this yean our hands as a country this year, and a huge choice to face at next election. i at the next election. and i really do think that people should about keir should think about what keir starmer when starmer stands for. when you've seen what he did yesterday .

seen what he did yesterday. >> yeah. well danny kruger, thank you very much indeed for joining me . and you know, as joining me. and you know, as danny says, kires starmer is trying to hold together his own party, his own warring party, uh, his own warring party. and it's not a very pretty picture, but can pretty picture, but fear. can you believe it ? can you believe you believe it? can you believe it? the speaker says he chose the motion because he feared for the motion because he feared for the safety of members of parliament. what have we done to our country? how have we allowed completely separate cultures to develop within britain , with develop within britain, with groups of people who appear, who appear to absolutely hate everything we stand for? we'll take a break and be back in a couple of minutes with some

chuffed that we get up there and give these people a voice, because earlier on gb news radio i >> -- >> well, as you can see, cpac is beginning to fill up at the main event. won't happen until saturday morning at 11:00. and that, of course, is when donald trump is going to speak before

he heads off to south carolina. and joining me to talk about that, but also the extraordinary events that took place in a new york courtroom last week, which i think a lot of us are just scratching our heads trying to work it could possibly work out how it could possibly have happened broadcaster and have happened is broadcaster and indeed of donald indeed daughter in law of donald trump, , welcome. hello trump, lara, welcome. hello to the show. great to have you here. now you very recently have become a co—chair of the republican national committee . republican national committee. you are now full time engaged in politics, is this a new is this a trump takeover of the republican party? >> now, i'll correct you just briefly, because they still have to technically me in. my to technically vote me in. my father law endorsed me. so father in law endorsed me. so there formal vote that will father in law endorsed me. so the held. formal vote that will father in law endorsed me. so the held. and �*nal vote that will father in law endorsed me. so the held. and ifal vote that will father in law endorsed me. so theheld. and if indeedthat will father in law endorsed me. so theheld. and if indeed theyvill be held. and if indeed they choose me to co—chair the rnc, yes, i believe that would be a bit a full time gig. we got bit of a full time gig. we got nine months to go until a big election. takeover. election. um, trump takeover. look, donald trump is the head of this is of the republican party. this is his is what the his party. this is what the republican national committee is designed to do . they have to

designed to do. they have to support the person running for president. of course, the president. and of course, the down races. so, um, a down ballot races. so, um, a trump takeover of sorts. but i think it will be very positive for the committee. >> yeah, that's how it looks to me we just can't believe in me now. we just can't believe in england that a businessman goes to a couple of banks , borrows to a couple of banks, borrows money on commercial terms, pay us all the money back and yet finishes up getting fined $350 million. how >> how it's so egregious, nigel. i mean, the truth is, this was, uh, this was all about politics from the beginning. you have letitia james, the attorney general of the state of new york, supposed to be running to, of course, protect citizens of that state. no, instead, she ran a campaign on one thing, taking down donald trump. she was going to find something to take him down no matter what it cost her, no matter what she had to do. and by the way, at a time when new york is in shambles, we have people getting in front people getting pushed in front of you have of the subway. you have criminals running rampant the criminals running rampant in the streets this is

streets of new york. this is where top law enforcement where the top law enforcement officer time, and officer put her time, energy and effort a civil trial where, effort in a civil trial where, as said, no damages. all of as you said, no damages. all of these made hundreds these banks made hundreds of millions dollars. millions of dollars. they actually donald trump actually called donald trump and the organisation a the trump organisation an a whale. they wanted to do more business it is business with them. um, it is it's so insane. and it's so egregious that i think people look at this and they say, if these communist tactics take root, because that's exactly what it is. it's about election interference . it's about interference. it's about destroying a man who they don't want to see back in the white house in the united states, house here in the united states, if thing is able to if that sort of thing is able to happenin if that sort of thing is able to happen in this country, we will lose the united states. >> i mean, he's a very he's a very determined bloke. he's a very determined bloke. he's a very guy. uh, he's put up very tough guy. uh, he's put up with awful lot of stick over with an awful lot of stick over the funny, isn't it? the years. funny, isn't it? before entered politics, the years. funny, isn't it? before loveded politics, the years. funny, isn't it? before loved him. litics, everyone loved him. >> amazing how that works. yes. >> so, did you say you're a conservative? life changes. this must getting down. lara must be getting him down. lara >> it's actually incredible. it's of those things where i it's one of those things where i actually i often check in with him because if you're on an aeroplane and you see the flight

attendants you're attendants panic, then you're like, should panic he is like, oh, i should panic. he is in such a positive state and i am honestly, nigel never seen him more focussed on anything than he is them right now. on november fifth of this year, whenever we have this president election, because i think he knows look, they've come after him for a long time. he's the only person to go into the white house for his first four years and come out the other side and come out on the other side with money in his pocket, with less money in his pocket, didn't take a salary, of course. funded his own campaign until he was the nominee. also was the nominee. but he's also the who the the only person who can do the things need to do to give things we need to do to give this country back to the people, people this country right now people in this country right now in america, like our rights in america, feel like our rights are stripped that are being stripped away, that we are being stripped away, that we are losing country that are losing the country that we've loved. i we've all known and loved. and i think that think he understands that there's a reason they're fighting so he exposed fighting him so hard. he exposed a lot of the rot washington, a lot of the rot in washington, dc first four years in dc the first four years in office. those people are terrified donald terrified to give donald trump another it because he another crack at it because he they know what he's capable. he achieved a in the first four achieved a lot in the first four years, actually years, and particularly actually i the i mean, internationally, the abraham accords, pacifying

abraham accords, uh, pacifying to a large degree north korea. >> these are very, very big achievements and recognise yeah, around world they really are around the world they really are . domestically didn't . but domestically he didn't manage to drain the swamp, did he. and they're ones coming he. and they're the ones coming after he. and they're the ones coming aftewell they're exactly the ones >> well they're exactly the ones coming after him. i think he exposed the swamp. and i exposed the swamp. yeah. and i think years, we're think four more years, we're going the toilet the going to flush the toilet on the swamp. donald trump is swamp. if donald trump is president the united states, president of the united states, a lot of loud cheering in this hall cpac. a lot of loud cheering in this hal if cpac. a lot of loud cheering in this hal if cpa believe that to a lot of loud cheering in this hal if cpabelieve that to be >> if they believe that to be true. absolutely. you want the swamp you? yes. swamp drained, don't you? yes. yeah everyone's looking forward to his speech here on saturday at 11. like ronald reagan years before he comes to c—pac every year he wants to see the grassroots activists . it's and grassroots activists. it's and then it's off to south carolina where nikki haley in her home state it is it looks likely that trump's going to beat haley quite comfortably. is that the end of the process then, or do you have to go on to super tuesday and everything else? well, one would hope so. >> i mean, i would hope that if

you are embarrassingly beaten in your home state, like i believe will happen for nikki haley on saturday, that you would say, you know what? enough is enough. it time all pull our it is time to all pull our support behind the obvious republican nominee, donald trump , because there's no path for nikki haley it doesn't nikki haley. it doesn't matter what from on out. what happens from here on out. she doesn't have a path to become the nominee. so that's what should but you do what should happen. but you do have ask yourself, is she have to ask yourself, why is she doing why is still in doing this? why is she still in this race? the only thing a this race? and the only thing a lot of people can surmise is that banking on least that she is banking on the least democratic, most un—american thing is that thing happening, which is that one crazy indictments one of these crazy indictments takes trump of the takes donald trump out of the race. she slides in race. and then she slides in there. any person who is not calling these things out for exactly they should be exactly what they are should be disqualified for running for president. i'm >> could one of these cases take him out of the race? >> i mean, i'm sure they're doing everything possible. i mean, ever mean, who would have ever thought that you would see a $355 million fine for $0 lost by anyone ? i'm sure they'll do

anyone? i'm sure they'll do everything possible. but what i can tell you is he is bound and determined. he doesn't care what it is they they do to him. how they attack a business that he built his entire life. um how they attack all of us in the family. because they continue to do he's focussed on do that. he's focussed on winning. he's focussed on fighting he's focussed on fighting and he's focussed on saving this country. fighting and he's focussed on sav laurais country. fighting and he's focussed on sav laura trump,:ry. fighting and he's focussed on sav laura trump, thank you for >> laura trump, thank you for joining us. thank you very much. thank have you. thank you. be great to have you. great have you. now years ago great to have you. now years ago in in the 2015 general in the uk in the 2015 general election, when up against election, when i was up against the party leaders, were the other party leaders, we were talking shortages . talking about housing shortages. and the other people , and i said to the other people, i said, do you think mass immigration and a rocketing population might be affecting housing in the united kingdom? oh no, no, no . they said they oh no, no, no. they said they couldn't see the link. well, i think nowadays people are beginning to see that and i'm joined by jonathan portes, professor of economics and pubuc professor of economics and public policy at king's college london. and, jonathan, the report out today published in the times suggesting that for many young people living in our

big cities , the rent is as much big cities, the rent is as much as 40% of their disposable income. this is a massive social problem, isn't it? >> that's absolutely right. housing affordability has got much worse. we simply have not, um, increased , um, the number of um, increased, um, the number of houses, particularly in the places where people like want to live and where the jobs are in london in particular, also in the cities that where you have, um, rapidly growing firms, places like cambridge and oxford, for example , um, and to oxford, for example, um, and to make housing more affordable for young people, we need to build more houses. there's no doubt about that . about that. >> yeah, but we're caught in this. i mean, this this extraordinary position where net migration is running at hundreds of thousands every year. we're not even building enough homes to cope with current levels of migration in the year to come, let alone the enormous backlog . let alone the enormous backlog. so where do we go with this ?

so where do we go with this? >> um, well, i think there's a general consensus that the reason and remember, lots of countries have high levels of immigration, lots of countries . immigration, lots of countries. his, um, don't have the same type of housing crisis we have. and indeed , um, some places in and indeed, um, some places in the us which have high levels of immigration and rapid population growth, houston , for example, growth, houston, for example, um, have actually managed to build bring house prices and rents down building houses . rents down by building houses. the problem in the uk is fundamentally twofold . first of fundamentally twofold. first of all, and most important, a very restrictive housing and planning system that doesn't let people build houses and second, of course, that the government hasn't built any social housing for the best part of 30 years to speak of . yeah, yeah , this point speak of. yeah, yeah, this point about social housing is something that i hear more and more going around the country, something like 1.25 million people on the waiting lists for social housing. >> surely that's something that government working with some of the big developers. surely that's something that we could

deal with pretty quickly . deal with pretty quickly. >> um, absolutely. we could deal with it. if there's the political will. um, the fact is, politicians and i think this is true of all parties, have failed to have that political will over the last, uh , um, as i say, you the last, uh, um, as i say, you know, it's not just this government. they have made it worse, but that was also true to some extent over the last government. there the government. there just isn't the political to will get together to free up the land that you need to put in the investing moment to allow councils to borrow money to build houses and to drive that through sometimes in the face of local opposition, particularly from um, from nimbys, as it were, people who don't want building in their neighbourhood . neighbourhood. >> yeah, i have to say, i don't see this getting better any time soon. jonathan vaughters thank you for joining soon. jonathan vaughters thank you forjoining me again on the program. thank you. now one of the elements here, of course, thatis the elements here, of course, that is affecting housing is that is affecting housing is that we've got so many people coming into the country across the english channel, in the backs of lorries coming in

illegally. and we're having to house them. we've been putting them in hotels. the government have been taking up private apartment s the small town of millom up in cumbria , now faces millom up in cumbria, now faces a migrant hotel coming into their town . local opposition to their town. local opposition to this is very, very strong indeed. gb news is sophie reaper went to millom and spoke to the town council . town council. >> obviously this isn't just an issue in millom. what are your thoughts on the impact of asylum seekers on the housing crisis? not just here but countrywide. i well, i can only talk about millom and millom has a has problems anyway in that we lost a large social housing estate that was demolished some five years ago, never been replaced. >> we've got huge shortages of private rented accommodation . private rented accommodation. one of the local estate agents has got 110 people on a list looking for rented houses in millom, and then to take such a number out of that marketplace and turn them into hmos that

would normally have ended up either as first time buyer houses or rented accommodation . houses or rented accommodation. it just adds to that problem . it just adds to that problem. and that's one of the things that really makes people angry. >> i get people write to me say, you know, my son and his wife are on the waiting list for social housing. they're living with us, you know, goodness knows how long it's going to be before they get the opportunity. and yet people pay a trafficker to come across the english channel to come across the english channel, and they're housed in a four star hotel or a private apartment. it is leading to great resentment. a sense of unfairness right across the country. and i think it's deepen country. and i think it's deeper, more widespread and held with more conviction than virtually anybody in westminster, genuinely understood stands in a moment. let's revisit what happened yesterday. did sir keir starmer did the labour chief whip? did somebody put undue pressure on the speaker of the house of commons? is that the real story of what

operate and run. and earlier on gb news radio . i have absolutely gb news radio. i have absolutely noidea gb news radio. i have absolutely no idea whether speaker lindsay hoyle is going to survive or not. >> seems to me unlikely that he will, but who knows ? who knows? will, but who knows? who knows? certainly his performances in the house of commons explaining himself, have been how can i put it less than satisfactory? but whether he survives or not, we need to try and get to the bottom to understand why did the speaker do something ? breaking speaker do something? breaking the rules of convention, being advised by his clerks that he shouldn't do it? why did he do it? what was he scared of? and was he perhaps intimidated by a labour party who are in a terrible mess over this? they're in a terrible mess over this because they rely heavily on the muslim vote in britain's big cities and over over gaza, palestine . they're beginning to palestine. they're beginning to see a fracturing of that vote.

they're scared they could lose a large number of votes. also, i think keir starmer does want to do the right thing, and i do genuinely believe that. but his behaviour yesterday does slightly worry me well to attempt to get to the bottom of this, i'm joined by paul richards , former special adviser richards, former special adviser to tony blair, and he joins me live from eastbourne . um, paul, live from eastbourne. um, paul, none of us can quite know the absolute truth of what went on yesterday , but what i thought yesterday, but what i thought was interesting was the speaker saying that he made this decision to give people other opfions decision to give people other options because he was fearful for the safety of mps . that is a for the safety of mps. that is a pretty desperate thing to say, isn't it ? isn't it? >> yes, nigel. i mean, just to correct the record, i wasn't a special adviser to tony blair. >> i was a special adviser in the tony blair government to another cabinet minister. so i don't want anyone to think i'm trying pick up. all trying to pick myself up. all right. but to your

right. but but to your substantive point think mps substantive point, i think mps are frightened. think this are frightened. and i think this is on a different scale to that that we've seen before. mean, that we've seen before. i mean, i've through or 3, 3 or i've walked through 2 or 3, 3 or 4 picket lines now of labour events that don't even, you know, have anything to do with the middle east with these mobs outside, the police really not reacting very well at all, and certainly not, um, policing the way that we would want to see, uh, and i mean, one of the, one of the ones i had to walk through was outside of a london hotel we were celebrating hotel where we were celebrating small and medium enterprises. his, um, and labour mps wanted to go to that, and they to go along to that, and they had to, know, brush had to, you know, brush shoulders people shoulders with the people shouting and barracking and threatening people going threatening and people going like me were there too, you know 7 like me were there too, you know ? so i think there's a different scale. understand what scale. so i can understand what lindsay point is. he lindsay boyle's point is. he wanted have biggest wanted to have the biggest possible motions in possible spread of motions in front of the house to debate. i think he had a, you know, perfectly laudable ambition just to have a good debate. and the people blame are not lindsay people i blame are not lindsay hoyle. it's who are just

hoyle. it's the snp who are just playing pure politics. and you're you'll know you're a politician. you'll know the were . yeah, they the games they were. yeah, they wanted split the labour wanted to split the labour party. they wanted to distance themselves from the conservatives because they know they're down toilet in they're going down the toilet in scotland. i get that. >> i understand that , you know, >> i understand that, you know, the snp were trying to play games. they were trying to expose divisions within the labour party. and of course, the last time was a vote on last time there was a vote on this, 56 labour and eight this, 56 labour mps and eight frontbenchers rebel against frontbenchers did rebel against keir and i understand keir starmer and i understand that in the constituency his, you know, mps are coming under considerable pressure from groups representing muslim voters. i understand that, i get that, but we have sir lindsay hoyle, speaker of the house of commons, of course, originally a labour mp, as his father was before him. you know what he did appears to me to be, frankly, brazenly , um, an act that brings brazenly, um, an act that brings into question his neutrality . into question his neutrality. but was he bullied by keir starmer into doing this ? was he starmer into doing this? was he

told, you know, if you don't do this, we won't put you back as speaker after we win the election . because the reason election. because the reason i asked that is i thought that clip we showed of starmer a few minutes ago , um, i thought he minutes ago, um, i thought he looked pretty evasive . looked pretty evasive. >> i don't think there's any evidence for that whatsoever. and i think for, um, keir starmer, who, you know, is a lawyer after all, to go on the record and say it so quite clearly and of, you know, more than once, you know, if it turned out to be not true, he would be in all kinds of trouble. so i don't think he would say it unless it was true. uh, maybe i'm being naive. i don't know, but i just don't think he would lie about such a thing. i think, uh, the thing. and i think, uh, the truth of it is, is that as presented, which is lindsay hoyle have full hoyle wanted to have a full spread of motions so that mps could vote in whatever way they wanted to, and they could show their constituents that the tmanmwmhmhm issue their constituents that the issue let's their constituents that the issuforget let's their constituents that the issuforget that let's their constituents that the issuforget that this let's their constituents that the issuforget that this is let's not forget that this is an opposition day put down opposition day debate put down by the it doesn't bind the by the snp. it doesn't bind the government, but it certainly doesn't change anything on the

ground in gaza either. it's just it's about words and it's just about words and it's about about about votes and it's about politics. alas it's not really about a ceasefire . about a ceasefire. >> yeah. i mean, look, i understand that that yesterday's vote, had it happened, wouldn't have changed anything. i get that, but what it exposed is something very ugly that has happened. something very ugly that has happened . and let's be frank happened. and let's be frank about it, paul, it was the labour government of blair's from 97 that encouraged mass immigration, thought that diversity should be a target we aim for at the sake of itself, not that the conservatives have done anything different, but in the name of trying to build a diverse, multicultural society. we have finished up with a fringe of people who appear to loathe and despise everything we've ever stood for. as a country, we're in a bad place, aren't we? >> i don't share that analysis, actually . if you look at the actually. if you look at the people on the demos, it tends to be guardian reading woke , uh, be guardian reading woke, uh, white people from stoke newington. it's not actually

people from palestine and it's certainly not drawn up on religious or ethnic grounds. it's people who don't like the west and don't like the labour party in particular, some of whom were in the labour party up until we kicked them out. and it's about that political divide. but i wouldn't racialise it i wouldn't characterise it and i wouldn't characterise it and i wouldn't characterise it about immigration it about about immigration ehhen it about about immigration either. it really is. that's not the demographic who are outside mps shouting , no, you mps offices shouting, no, you know what you raise a very fair point. >> there are plenty of people out there who don't appear to be muslim in terms of their dress or anything else. so you're right, it's something that the hard has picked up . is it hard left has picked up. is it going lead to a party to the going to lead to a party to the left of labour gaining representation in the house of commons? well that's a good question. >> i mean, we're looking at a by—election next week, aren't we, where galloway may come back in, he's represents the so—called workers party. not many actual workers in it, i don't suspect. but, um, he might return. he's a bit of a novelty

act. he might be back and then a lose a seat again in a few years. um, i don't see a major fracturing on the left , because fracturing on the left, because first the post means that, first past the post means that, you know, that doesn't happen. uh, it's one of the strengths of that system, that particular system, whether you with it. you agree or disagree with it. um, and i don't think. go on. nigel. sorry. >> no . okay. well. well paul, >> no. okay. well. well paul, who knows? who knows what's going to happen in, um. and you mentioned george galloway and the by—election next week. and for good order sake, i'll say to all our viewers and listeners a full list of candidates is up now on gb news website. paul, thank you very much indeed for joining us. well, let's go for today's today's what the farage the wtf moment, today's today's what the farage the wtf moment , the absurdity. the wtf moment, the absurdity. can you believe that due to strict eu regulations on playground safety, it's affecting manufacturers design and we may finish up without kids having swings in our parks? it seems almost unbelievable. and yet, here's what drives me mad. the regular motions were

adopted wholesale by the united kingdom after brexit. conservatives said to us vote for us, we'll give you brexit and still we accept more and more eu regulations. it's enough to drive anybody mad . it makes to drive anybody mad. it makes me so angry. it's time to take a

break. so for legal reasons, i have to give you now a full list of the candidates standing next week in the rochdale by—election azhar ali, labour party even if he has been disowned, mark coleman, independent simon danczuk reform uk ian donaldson, liberal democrat paul ellison, conservative. george galloway, workers party of great britain michael howarth, independent william howarth, independent. guy austin, green raven guy austin, green party. raven rodent sebby's corner, official monster raving loony party and david tully, independent. the americans listening to this

can't quite believe what they're hearing. no, we do have a monster raving loony party. monica crowley joins me. you've been up on the stage this morning, and you know, you come here. you've been part of the administration. how much the cpac matter to the conservative movement in america ? movement in america? >> well, first of all, it's great to see you, nigel, in person. thank you so much for having me . i've been to morsi having me. i've been to morsi pax, and i can count always speaking on the main stage. and over it's really over the years it's really changed over time. it's always been core conservative been a core conservative organisation, but with the rise of populism and nationalist ism in the united states in the uk and across the west , cpac has and across the west, cpac has really adapted to that change. and now, as you can see in this particular cpac, it really is a populist organisation now. and this is a populist conference. it's to give regular americans the forgotten men and women across this country and really around the world, a place to gather and have a sense of community and allow their voices

to be heard and of course, now, you know, donald trump comes every year. >> the bush is hardly ever bothered. it's kind of become it's kind of become these are trump grass roots, aren't they? yes >> this really is the grassroots donald trump has. this will be his 14th cpac. yeah. amazing so which is incredible for a non politician to appear at cpac14 politician to appear at cpac 14 times. but this is now a grassroots organisation to speak for the forgotten men and women that donald trump and the america first movement champion . america first movement champion. and it's a place for all of us to gather and to have a sense of community, to give each other support and steel for the fights ahead. >> and you're a big part of it. >> and you're a big part of it. >> i am i hopefully yes you are. >> i am i hopefully yes you are. >> you were on the stage earlier. thank you for joining me. >> my pleasure nigel. >> my pleasure nigel. >> and you see, you see packets just full of energy and enthused ism and optimism. we really haven't got anything like it back kingdom now , back in the united kingdom now, now, liz truss has just been speaking at the main stage here. it's nice to see a fellow brit appearing at cpac. and here's a

short clip of what she had to say. >> now in britain , we are one of >> now in britain, we are one of the few countries that still have a conservative government, but the left did not accept that they'd lost at the ballot box. instead they've been weaponizing our court system to stop us deporting illegal immigrants . deporting illegal immigrants. they've been using the administrative state to make sure that conservative policies are thwarted , and they've been are thwarted, and they've been pushing their woke agenda through our schools , through our through our schools, through our campuses, and even in our corporations. now i thought that companies in the free market were meant to be about giving people jobs, giving people opportunity , cities making opportunity, cities making money, making profits, creating wealth for our country. but no , wealth for our country. but no, we've got a new kind of economy now in the west. it's called woke genomics . woke genomics. >> well, there we are . that was

>> well, there we are. that was liz truss speaking on the main stage. just a few moments ago. in fact, i'm rather impressed we managed to get the clip up as quickly as that. now, when i first came to cpac and spoke in 2012, i wasn't just the only brit here. i was the only foreigner here and i came back again in 2013 and i was completely alone. and now we have people here. fact , the have people here. in fact, the argentinian newly elected president will be here on saturday. we've got people coming from over the coming to cpac from all over the world, including former british prime minister liz truss. hotfoot off the stage. how was it? great >> fantastic. lots of conservative energy. >> and isn't that the thing? you know, as i say, i've been coming to this regularly year after year and i've been to see pax in australia and elsewhere. there's something the conservative movement in america has grass roots going all the way up. that's just missing in britain completely. >> well, we are developing that with popcorn. that's what popcorn is all about. it is about about conservative policies and getting grassroots

support because i know that's what the public want . they want what the public want. they want us to deal with immigration. they want us to cut regulation. they want us to cut regulation. they want us to cut regulation. they want to have low taxes . they want to have low taxes. yeah, but too often there's a circle within the m25 that stopped that from happening. and thatis stopped that from happening. and that is why we need to galvanise those supporters and get that conservative energy . conservative energy. >> do you think the british conservative movement could ever produce anything like this in terms of its energy ? of course, terms of its energy? of course, of course, of course. >> i think we saw some of that at the popcorn launch that we had recently, but we need more of it and we need more people to get involved. and that's what i'm here talking about. i'm also talking about my new book. i know ten years to save the west. we're going to come to that coming out. to that. coming out. come to that. >> don't worry. we're going to come to that. isn't it come to that. and isn't it interesting what you see here are people with quite similar visions they want visions for the way they want their countries to be run, for their countries to be run, for the way the world the way they see the world operating, cooperating together. the way they see the world omean, g, cooperating together. the way they see the world omean, thisyoperating together. the way they see the world omean, this isyerating together. the way they see the world omean, this is genuinelyjether. i mean, this is genuinely international isn't international now, isn't it? yes, this is what every

yes, because this is what every human being wants . human being wants. >> as margaret thatcher says, when people are free to choose, they choose freedom . and it's so they choose freedom. and it's so true . people want control of true. people want control of their own lives . they don't want their own lives. they don't want their own lives. they don't want the government telling them what to do. they want these to do. they don't want these woke inflicted on them. woke policies inflicted on them. but problem is the leftist but the problem is the leftist activists have been very, very assiduous at pushing that agenda, which is why we need a conservative movement that challenges that at a grassroots level. >> i mean, one of the things that you've said again and again is that you were shocked as prime minister how difficult it was to get your agenda through that. was to get your agenda through that . some i was to get your agenda through that. some i mean, here, was to get your agenda through that . some i mean, here, they that. some i mean, here, they call it the deep state. but, um, i don't know what you'd call it back at home. >> i call it the quangocracy. yeah. we've got more than 500 quangos britain , and they've quangos in britain, and they've got and more powerful got more and more powerful politicians have outsourced the decisions to them. so if you try and make those decisions, you get the most almighty backlash . get the most almighty backlash. and that's what i faced . and that's what i faced. >> have we also outsourced a lot

of decisions to judges. you know, parliament seems to be able to make laws and judges relying on international agreements, overruling parliament. is that something else that we need to look at? >> absolutely. i mean, i made the comment in my speech that we now have the legal system interfering in questions over deporting illegal migrants. i think that's a huge problem. everybody i speak to on the doorstep in norfolk wants us to deal with illegal immigration. and yet the government has been unable to do that because of the courts. and this goes way back to tony blair and the constitution reform act, where he created the supreme court. we never had that in the british system. we'd always had a lord chancellor, democrat accountable, sitting in cabinet. >> yeah. no, no, no . he did huge >> yeah. no, no, no. he did huge constitutional damage . but it's constitutional damage. but it's going to take a lot to reverse it. and unless , you know, we it. and unless, you know, we know with popcorn we know your feelings about the uk. but

you're becoming a or trying to become a global crusader with this book. and we're going this new book. and we're going to the book up to put the cover of the book up for viewers see. so ten years for viewers to see. so ten years to the west. what does that to save the west. what does that mean? well, what i feel is if we allow these leftist policies to dominate what i said today is the free world been run by the free world has been run by the free world has been run by the left , who joe biden in the left, who got joe biden in the left, who got joe biden in the house and emmanuel macron. >> we've got justin trudeau and they have pursued policies that have weakened the west . we've have weakened the west. we've seen the rise of china , we've seen the rise of china, we've seen the rise of china, we've seen the rise of china, we've seen the appalling war in ukraine perpetrated by russia . ukraine perpetrated by russia. iran is almost at the point of getting a nuclear weapon, and that's why we need conservative leadership again. that's why we need a republican back in the white house. but we also need to win the argument. you know, we know going in know what's going on in our schools our campuses, the schools on our campuses, the appalling events yesterday in parliament with people being threatened by anti—semites . you threatened by anti—semites. you know, how on earth does this happened? that's why we need to fight and conservatives need to

fight. otherwise, i really fear the west will be lost . the west will be lost. >> i have to say what happened yesterday was appalling. and i, you know, i didn't realise till this morning that you know, from the river to the sea, palestine shall be free was projected onto big ben last night, and the police have decided to take no further action. so this also appues further action. so this also applies to the police and if you're going to have laws , you you're going to have laws, you actually have to enforce them, don't ? don't you? >> absolutely. and the police have done enough . i'm also have not done enough. i'm also very fearful about mps security. now, we've seen two mps murdered in the last ten years. we need people to come forward. we need parliamentary unions to be able to speak truth . and yet they're to speak truth. and yet they're being threatened and they're being threatened and they're being bullied. and i want to see us step up of security for mps. i think what has happened has been appalling. >> yeah. i mean, fear was stalking the house of commons yesterday, wasn't it? in terms of what people were saying, in terms of the judgements the speaker made , uh, do you think speaker made, uh, do you think the speaker can survive this? well look, i think i support the

speaken >>i speaken >> i want the speaker to continue. i think he's basically done a good job. but we need to change the security of mps. this is not about the speaker. for me. it's about the fact that we are allowing our democracy to be eroded . and i talked earlier eroded. and i talked earlier about the quangos , kwasi and the about the quangos, kwasi and the judiciary and the fact that decisions are being taken out of the hands of politicians. i think that's wrong. but it's also wrong that members of parliament intimidated parliament should be intimidated . and, you know, it's very the police need to step up. they're very wrong. >> now, when you ask british conservatives in a senior position who they want to win, the us president election, they never give an answer . the us president election, they never give an answer. but i almost half of the leading almost think half of the leading conservatives would joe conservatives would rather joe biden got back than donald trump. how do feel about trump. how do you feel about donald well i feel that donald trump? well i feel that joe biden needs to be kicked out of the white house >> yeah, i think that is vital for future of the west. and for the future of the west. and ihave for the future of the west. and i have worked in the cabinet under both the trump presidency

as trade secretary and the biden secretary, as for biden, as foreign, when i was foreign secretary and i'll tell you, i felt safer for the west when president trump was in power. >> there you are, a british conservative saying nice things about president trump. and you're right, he actually does stand up forjd you're right, he actually does stand up for jd when conservative values. and he likes our country. and i always think biden rather loathes us. >> no, he biden seems to be very keen to criticise the united kingdom. and that's certainly what i found as both foreign secretary and prime minister. yeah, yeah. >> no no no. >> no, no no no. >>— >> no, no no no. >> liz, ten years to save >> so, liz, ten years to save the this is now is the west. this is now this is the west. this is now this is the crusade for the rest of your political career. yeah, yeah. yes. and are you going to take that around where is it? that out around where is it? just and britain. do you just america and britain. do you intend to roll this out? >> take to >> i'm hoping to take it to japan well. and many of our japan as well. and many of our allies around world, because allies around the world, because we in this fight. we need everybody in this fight. you there is now an you know, there is now an authoritarian axis. china, iran , authoritarian axis. china, iran, russia. they are determined to undermine on our way of life and

our values . and we have to fight our values. and we have to fight back. our values. and we have to fight back . and that's why we need back. and that's why we need conservatives in across the free world fighting together. and that's why i'm here today. >> liz truss, thank you for joining me. well, i'm going to read book. really am. and read the book. i really am. and yeah, as one of the things you really do get coming here to cpac different cpac meeting different people from different countries from wildly different countries and yet very , very similar aims and yet very, very similar aims and yet very, very similar aims and goals. and i think cpac really is very much a force for good for the conservative movement right across that western world that liz says, we only have ten years to save . only have ten years to save. enough from me back with you in a couple of days. let's have a look at what the weather has in store for us. looks like things are heating up . are heating up. >> boxt boilers spot of weather on gb news is . on gb news is. >> good evening. welcome to your latest weather update with me, annie from the met office. a mixture of sunshine and showers for many of us on friday. there

is a risk of hail and thunder though, and feel though, and it will feel a little bit cooler than of late. that's because this front that's because this cold front has across the country has swept across the country through bringing that through today. bringing that heavy but it we heavy rain. but behind it we have slightly more have got a slightly more typically air mass for this typically warm air mass for this time will be time of year, so it will be feeling much closer to average. so that means a colder night tonight we will see tonight and we will see a westerly bringing in westerly wind bringing in showers parts showers from the west. so parts of south—west of wales, the south—west northwest western northwest england, many western areas of scotland will see some quite showers quite persistent showers overnight these will fall as overnight and these will fall as snow the highest ground snow over the highest ground above 3 or 400m. so it will be a colder start to the day. we could be down as low as —3 or 4 across parts of northeast and scotland, eastern areas scotland, but many eastern areas will much drier and will see a much drier and brighter start to friday. there will be some fairly pleasant feeling. sunshine as well. however, in the west we will see showers quite quickly developing and will push into the and these will push into the east these east by the afternoon. these bnng east by the afternoon. these bring risk of hail and bring that risk of hail and thunder, it could be quite thunder, so it could be quite unpleasant you caught unpleasant if you do get caught in one over in any sunny spells, it will continue to feel fairly pleasant. of 9 or pleasant. highs of 9 or 10 degrees on saturday after a

fairly dry start to the day, we will see the mist and fog clear. we'll be fairly chilly though, and many areas will see a dry rest of the day as well, though some northern areas could see some northern areas could see some showers lingering . we'll some showers lingering. we'll see persistent rain see some more persistent rain move sunday, move into the south on sunday, but northern areas will get but many northern areas will get away fairly dry weekend . away with a fairly dry weekend. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar for sponsors of weather on

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