british citizenship. >> islamists in charge of britain. that is the claim this morning from former home secretary suella braverman, who claims islamic extremists are now in charge of the country . now in charge of the country. >> for the speaker on the ropes, 70 mp5 >> for the speaker on the ropes, 70 mps have signed a letter of no confidence in sir lindsay hoyle after the gaza ceasefire debate. political editor chris hope has the latest . hope has the latest. >> more than i in 10 mps want the speaker to quit. i've been talking to the rebels who want that to happen . that to happen. >> stopping the boats, the uk is set to sign a new deal with the eu's border agency to tackle migrant dinghies, crossing the channel migrant dinghies, crossing the channel, and energy bills to fall, ofgem has announced that the energy price cap for a typical household will fall by 12.3% to just under £1,700 from april the 1st.

yes, a welcome announcement from ofgem this morning isn't it the lowest fall, i think, in some two years. will it make a difference to you also, jamie begum big decision. >> we're going to be live in the courtroom in just a few minutes for that decision. on whether shamima can return to the uk or not. of course. the runaway isis bride she went to join islamic state, regardless of what they got up to, the atrocities they committed. her lawyers claim she was groomed and trafficked. do you know . you agree? let us know. vaiews@gbnews.com. but first, here's your news headlines with tatiana . tatiana. >> ben. thank you very much and good morning. your top stories from the gb newsroom britain is set to sign a new deal with the eu's border agency in a further bid to stop small boats crossing the english channel. the deal, agreed frontex , will see agreed with frontex, will see the border force co operate

the uk border force co operate more closely with its european counterparts on intelligence and training. the home secretary is welcoming the european home affairs commissioner to oversee the signing of the landmark agreement . so far this year, agreement. so far this year, 1716 people have made the crossing . james cleverly says crossing. james cleverly says the deal will help tackle the issue . issue. >> it means we can share information quicker, share intelligence quicker, we can operate more effective fully and the reason that's important point is because the eu wants to secure its external borders , secure its external borders, just as we do so, people who are coming into europe from eastern europe, across the mediterranean , in the european union, want to stop them. we want to help them, stop them. we want to help them, stop them, because those people filter through europe and ultimately find themselves on small boats coming across to the uk . uk. >> households will see their energy bills drop to the lowest level in two years from april . level in two years from april. ofgem has announced its latest price cap drop of 12.3, meaning the typical energy bill will now

cost £1,690 a year. that's down from close to 2000. it means a fall . of £238. child serial fall. of £238. child serial killer lucy letby bid to appeal her convictions will be heard in court in april. her convictions will be heard in court in april . she was court in april. she was sentenced to 14 whole life orders after she killed seven babies and attempted to murder six others at a hospital, where she worked as a nurse. between june 2015 and 2016. if judges declined to give permission, it will be the end of the appeal process for letby. that hearing will provisionally be held on the 25th of april. and the commons speaker is facing continued pressure to step down after almost 70 mps have called for him to resign more than a 10th of the comments have signed a motion expressing no confidence over the speaker's handung confidence over the speaker's handling of gaza ceasefire handling of the gaza ceasefire debate. sir lindsay hoyle has apologised, but rishi sunak has

described him and his decisions as very concerning . sir lindsay as very concerning. sir lindsay says he was motivated by concern about mps security , which has about mps security, which has sparked further debate about the impact of threats and intimidation in parliament. for the latest stories , you can sign the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen . or the qr code on your screen. or you can go to gb news. comments family hurts . family hurts. >> good morning and welcome to britain's newsroom on gb news with ben elliott and pip tomson. now the uk and the eu are set to sign a deal in a bid to tackle illegal migration and criminal gangs. >> under the deal, the government and the bloc's border agency, frontex, will share intelligence and training programs as well post liaison programs as well as post liaison staff to coordinate with each other across the borders. >> , the former home >> also, the former home secretary, suella braverman , is secretary, suella braverman, is claiming that islamists are now in charge of britain after the commons speaker admitted he'd

been wrong to ignore protocol over security threats to mps. >> and her comments, of course, come a day after sir lindsay hoyle, the speaker, sparked a furious backlash over a gaza ceasefire vote by allowing a vote on a labour amendment. the commons speaker, sir lindsay, is now under pressure to quit, with almost 70 mps calling for him to go . go. >> so let's get the very latest on, uh, the future of lindsay hoyle from our political editor, christopher hope. christopher, i note that the home secretary, james cleverly, he has been speaking about, um, i call it the plight of lindsay hoyle. maybe that's maybe that's a slight exaggeration. you can clarify that. but he is saying that the speaker he's warning him against charging commons conventions and saying that the only thing mps should fear is the ballot . box the ballot. box >> well, that's right. and morning, ben. and morning pip. that's correct. i mean, as things stand, more than 1 in 10

mps have signed a motion, almost a petition saying they've got no confidence in the speaker . a petition saying they've got no confidence in the speaker. and that's a lot of mps and that's three times the number which signed a motion back in 2009, which led to micheal martin resigning the beginning of resigning at the beginning of the expenses scandal . that the mp expenses scandal. that does include or will include all of the snp mps. does include or will include all of the snp mps . that's the third of the snp mps. that's the third biggest party in the commons. that's his biggest, uh um, problem . he's got the speaker, problem. he's got the speaker, he's got to win round those people now. um, his allies say , people now. um, his allies say, well, it's all gone away now. he'll survive the weekend. i've been talking this been to talking rebels this morning. they me that morning. they tell me that there's more to sign. more there's still more to sign. more mps signing on mps will signing over on probably monday. mps will signing over on probably monday . those mps will signing over on probably monday. those mps mps will signing over on probably monday . those mps who probably monday. those mps who don't know how use the edm don't know how to use the edm system uh, remain system to sign, uh, remain partly or digitally in the house of commons. um, the rebels think they're already there in forcing a vote of a vote and a debate of no confidence in the speaker. but then the new number now is 15. if they can get to 15% of mps signing it, 15. if they can get to 15% of mps signing it , that's just mps signing it, that's just short of 100 mps. if they sign

this motion . the view is from this motion. the view is from the rebels that should be enough for the government. that's penny mordaunt to grant, um, time in house of commons to debate the future of a speaker of the house of commons, almost, um precedented historic precedented moment, a historic moment the house of commons moment in the house of commons as we did here yesterday, didn't we? from penny mordaunt, she almost didn't quite defend the speaken almost didn't quite defend the speaker, but certainly attacked labour for putting the speaker in a position where he felt he had select , in a position where he felt he had select, um, that that had to select, um, that that second amendment to an snp motion giving mps , labour mps motion giving mps, labour mps a get out of free, uh, get out of jail, free card and able to vote for a policy. they agreed on gaza. so there's lots of lots of bad blood in parliament. lindsay hoyle is or is it will survive the weekend. i think monday is a crucial day. if many more sign it . were very hard to resist it. were very hard to resist having this historic debate of no confidence in speaker of the house of commons. yeah he's he's clinging on, isn't he? >> no doubt. chopper, can i get your on suella your thoughts on suella braverman, opinion piece in

braverman, uh, opinion piece in the she the telegraph? this morning? she said was now in said that britain was now in charge. being run by charge. sorry. being run by islamists, and we'd been bullied into submission. it causing into submission. is it causing shockwaves across westminster ? shockwaves across westminster? yeah, i've got the got the article here, um, that the former home secretary wrote. >> it is i mean she writes she, she just doesn't just doesn't hold back does she. uh pip or ben. she says here how islamist cranks and left wing extremists are hijacking our institutions and bullying our country into submission. this is a crisis, she says. fight back. we must . she says. fight back. we must. the fight back must start now with urgency . she said that keir with urgency. she said that keir starmer bowed to the mob on one of the most shameful days of our democracy. i mean, she, in her language , she's being she's language, she's being she's pushing it very hard. but she makes the point, which i think lots of mps share. people like sir jeffrey cox, the former attorney general, that by allowing that second motion, allowing that second motion, allowing labour mps to vote for their policy on gaza, not having

to vote the snp or government, um, and saying he's doing that because he was concerned for mps safety , that is bowing to the safety, that is bowing to the mob. he is literally saying pressure on mps outside of the parliament results in the business changing on the floor of the house of commons. that is a problem. um, and i think what sir lindsay hoyle has said so far is not enough. now there's the government taking action the government is taking action today. we hear reports of today. all we hear reports of lord walden, who is the government's adviser on government's official adviser on political violence, he is proposing safe spaces around mp offices and parliament. whether that's enough , because, of that's enough, because, of course, physically not being there won't protect mps from abuse online. and that's far worse off. and so it's the beginning of a of a push back against this pressure on mps. >> okay . political editor >> okay. political editor christopher hope , thank you. for christopher hope, thank you. for now. joining us in the studio is conservative mp for shipley, philip davis. now philip good morning to you . um, you've been morning to you. um, you've been very fulsome haven't you. in your praise and support for

lindsay hoyle . you don't want lindsay hoyle. you don't want him to go anywhere. why is that? >> well, look, lindsay made a bad decision on on on wednesday. no, you know, it's his decision was indefensible . i certainly was indefensible. i certainly wouldn't try and defend his decision . he made completely the decision. he made completely the wrong decision . um, but, look, wrong decision. um, but, look, he made a he made a mistake. unlike most politicians, he's come to the house of commons at least twice now to say i made a mistake. if only other mps would be quite so willing to come forward and i made a forward and say i made a mistake, he admits he made a mistake, he admits he made a mistake and he apologised for making that mistake and look, if the point i made is that if, if, if everyone lost their job every time they made a mistake, i would have lost my job within about week of being to about a week of being elected to parliament ago, and parliament 19 years ago, and i probably have it probably would have lost it every since. every week since. >> does, hang on here >> but if he does, hang on here is his position though. forever tainted . tainted. >> and no, i don't see why it should be. look, he made a bad. he made a bad decision and i

think look, there should be much more focus if you don't mind me saying so on keir starmer and the role he played in putting intolerable pressure on the speaken intolerable pressure on the speaker. spoken to speaker. i mean, i've spoken to labour what happened labour mps about what happened and basically denies and basically he denies it. doesn't know well, he says doesn't he know he well, he says he the speaker to agree to he urged the speaker to agree to the said that's what the motion. he said that's what he we're quite he said. i mean, we're quite careful wording. never careful wording. he's never actually he what i'd actually said what he what i'd like to know is what did he actually the speaker? actually say to the speaker? that's speaker to that's not for the speaker to disclose. for keir disclose. that's for keir starmer disclose. and but starmer to disclose. and but what i've heard from labour mps is told the is that basically he told the speaker mps be speaker that labour mps would be at didn't agree to at risk if he didn't agree to this amendment . and even this amendment. and i've even heard phrase would have heard the phrase he would have blood hands now that is blood on his hands now that is putting the speaker in an intolerable position on so, so putting the speaker in an intoii rable position on so, so putting the speaker in an intoii think position on so, so putting the speaker in an intoii think that's»n on so, so putting the speaker in an intoii think that's the1 so, so putting the speaker in an intoii think that's the that'so and i think that's the that's the biggest scandal of all in this. do you believe sir this. philip, do you believe sir lindsay, says he made lindsay, when he says he made that because of fears that decision because of fears for safety? yeah i think and for mps safety? yeah i think and of that's completely of course, that's completely indefensible too, because we can't where, in can't have a situation where, in effect, we're making decisions in because a this in parliament because of a this is that's mob rule. >> okay. well, this brings us on to suella bravermans article

today in the telegraph. and it is very, very strongly worded . i is very, very strongly worded. i mean, she talks about the islamists, the extremists, the anti—semites are in charge now. we're sleepwalk into a ghettoised society where free expression and british values are diluted. some people would say that that, um, she's doing this to get votes and it's a leadership pitch . why would leadership pitch. why would people be wrong to think that? and is this sort of language actually helpful ? actually helpful? >> well, look , we suella should >> well, look, we suella should as we've just been talking about suella should say what she thinks and she shouldn't be cowed into not saying what she thinks. otherwise. we're back in the situation where people aren't saying what they think because mob uh, because of mob rule. uh, presumably she's saying this because thinks . because that's what she thinks. i there's any i don't think there's any suggestion she doesn't suggestion that she doesn't actually whether actually believe this, whether she's she has an she's whether she has an ulterior for her leadership. >> did you it and think, >> did you read it and think, oh, is a leadership pitch oh, this is a leadership pitch from her? >> think el has >> i don't think so. el has hidden fact that she hidden the fact that she probably would like to run for

the leadership. did. she has the leadership. she did. she has in past, so the chances are in the past, so the chances are she do again. but look, i she will do again. but look, i think with all of these think with with all of these things, should take things, we should take people what face value, what they say at face value, that what they believe. that that's what they believe. and let's rather than trying to undermine reasons for doing undermine the reasons for doing it, at what she said. undermine the reasons for doing itthink at what she said. undermine the reasons for doing itthink there's, what she said. undermine the reasons for doing itthink there's, there'she said. undermine the reasons for doing itthink there's, there's a, said. i think there's, there's a, there's there's a of there's a, there's a lot of truth in what what she says. truth in what in what she says. has been vindicated because has she been vindicated because she for basically she was sacked for basically saying police were saying that the police were going soft on the pro—palestine march? she, she march? no, no, she, she, she wasn't sacked i mean, let's, wasn't sacked for i mean, let's, let's be she basically let's be she, she basically sacked and sacked herself basically. and whether that was deliberate going column in going ahead with that column in the i've never the telegraph, i've never been a minister because to minister because i want to i want speak freely. right it's want to speak freely. right it's a choice i've made. what? you can't is you can't become a can't do is you can't become a minister and still think you can speak freely. she basically was publishing articles without getting clearance from number 10, of the 10, which is a breach of the ministerial code. >> but she was she was >> but, but, but she was she was right, wasn't she, in the content of what she was saying. >> when got elected in >> well, i when i got elected in 2005, i was the parliamentary spokesman campaign spokesman for the campaign against political correctness, which for many years. which i did for many years.

>> and i was warning about this for years that basically we've got ourselves situation . got ourselves into a situation. in this country. and i was a lone voice saying this for years and years and years, that we're in a situation in this country where people are afraid to say what they think. and i'm not talking about extremists, and i'm perfectly i'm talking about perfectly ordinary, people this ordinary, decent people in this country petrified of what country are petrified of what words what they say, words they use, what they say, in zealot takes in case some zealot takes exception to it and tries to force them out of their job, etc, etc. this has been happening for years and years and years, and the culmination i guess of this was the house of commons changing its rules in order appease a mob. and we order to appease a mob. and we mustn't allow that ever to happen again. that must never, ever happen again. but what we've got to get back to this belief in free speech and i've got to say, other politicians don't help the media don't often help. they clamp down on people who something, well, not gb who say something, well, not gb news i can say no, i'm not. absolutely. but what we've got to do is we've got to allow people to have their say,

because otherwise, as know, because otherwise, as you know, we live in a free society we don't live in a free society and we should all be we should all that. okay all be afraid of that. okay phil, do stay with us. >> uh, any moment now, though, we going to be hearing the we are going to be hearing the judgement on isis bride shamima begum. allowed to begum. will she be allowed to return to the uk ? we're going to return to the uk? we're going to be bringing you that announcement, that judgement live here on britain's newsroom on gb news. stay with

us welcome back shamima begum. she is set to find out in the next few minutes if she has won an appeal against the removal of her british citizenship. she was just 15 when she left to london go to syria. >> her british citizenship was revoked, but her lawyers argue she was a victim of trafficking . she was a victim of trafficking. here in the studio is the conservative for shipley, conservative mp for shipley, philip davies. still with philip davies. he's still with us reporter charlie us and gb news reporter charlie peters. charlie, let's start with you. can you just lay out what's today? how

what's going on today? how pivotal will the decision be? actually in the context of what we're seeing in parliament and also with suella braverman's column this morning, fits column this morning, it all fits in quite nicely, doesn't it? >> court of >> well, this is the court of appeal comes a year and appeal and it comes a year and a day after the special immigration appeals commission last february said that upheld the government's decision to render shamima begum stateless. but her lawyers are attacking that decision through two main avenues. firstly, they contend that she was a trafficking victim at the state has failed to consider for how she actually made it to syria through turkey when she was 15. in february 2015, and actually when that commission was actioned in february of last year, the judge did say that the strongest part of their argument, the most compelling argument they had was the trafficking angle . but the trafficking angle. but they're going be talking they're also going to be talking about how state, they said, about how the state, they said, failed consider that they failed to consider that they were de facto were making her de facto stateless, has stateless, as she has bangladeshi descent. i'm up until you're 19 years old. according to the law in bangladesh, you can

automatically claim citizenship through bloodline. but she's now 24 and she didn't make that decision in by the time she turned 21. so they're blaming the state for making her stateless. of course, that is according to the universal declaration of human rights. thatis declaration of human rights. that is a breach of that line. and they're saying that the special immigration appeals commission also breached the pubuc commission also breached the public sector equality duty. in doing so, the lawyers are also adding to that argument by saying that several other organs of the state fail to . in 2015, of the state fail to. in 2015, when she fled to syria to join the islamic state, in particular the islamic state, in particular the met, the council and her schools, they should have known that she was being radicalised. >> interesting. >> interesting. >> see those pictures of >> when we see those pictures of her. for viewers watching how she's changed her appearance, she's changed her appearance, she's become unwanted to become very westernised , which i'm sure very westernised, which i'm sure you know, to help her bid to return here. there is still the claim that or the thinking that she was 15 when she left. she

was a child . she was groomed by was a child. she was groomed by extremists . can she change? has extremists. can she change? has she changed? does she need rehabilitation ? and who is rehabilitation? and who is paying rehabilitation? and who is paying for all this? well she's received hundreds of thousands of pounds of legal aid. >> know that for sure. but >> we know that for sure. but there's also been a sort there's clearly also been a sort of a back pr campaign of a back room pr campaign around shamima when she was first in 2019 the first discovered in 2019 by the times newspaper. some of her remarks time were remarks at the time were particularly shocking. they made her world over, her famous the world over, saying people who had been saying that people who had been killed the islamic state were killed by the islamic state were enemies of islam . describing enemies of islam. describing some of the events that she took part and observed , and again part in and observed, and again repeated those comments later to the bbc and also about the manchester arena bombing as well. >> precisely. she said. she said it was justified precisely because of western activities in the middle east. >> and the same thing for the yazidi women who had been slaughtered and enslaved. she said, same thing said, well, the same thing happens those my happens in iraq to those of my islamic persuasion. so that was very much central to her being cast in a new image by her team

in 2021. we saw that undergo that sort of pr campaign. the state is arguing, well, if she held those views, then does she still hold them now? >> is there a good chance she wins this case today? >> well, she's failed so many appeals, that last judge, in appeals, but that last judge, in february of 2023, saying that the trafficking argument was the most compelling, that she was a child particular, child under 16, in particular, fleeing with her, with her school friends . that is the line school friends. that is the line that could lead to a realistic possibility of her being granted the chance to come to britain and fight case. philip, do and fight this case. philip, do we responsibility towards her? >> responsibility we've got >> the responsibility we've got is to the security of the country. that's the ultimately, that's the first and main priority of any government is, is defence of the realm, protecting the public. and that should trump all other considerations. to be perfectly honest . and she, in my opinion, honest. and she, in my opinion, is and remains a threat to the security of the country . and i security of the country. and i very much hope the court upholds the government's decision . the government's decision. >> should we just remind people what isis , the group she left to

what isis, the group she left to join, did they burn people alive in cages? they beheaded people. they kids and women . they they stoned kids and women. they raped their way through syria , raped their way through syria, in they committed in iraq, and they committed a genocide , according to the un, genocide, according to the un, against yazidis. genocide, according to the un, against yazidis . so what's against the yazidis. so what's her return if it's granted going to do for the atmosphere of this country bearing in mind what's going on in parliament, bearing in mind the tensions that are rising, it's going to tip us into boiling point, isn't it? no it is, will it is, it will be. >> it will be a terrible decision. and people would feel that rights individual that the rights of individual and some deeply unpleasant individuals of the individuals is put ahead of the rights law abiding citizens. rights of law abiding citizens. and cannot that to and we cannot allow that to happen. security of the happen. the security of the country has got to be the top priority. the security of people could potentially open the priority. the security of people coul(to potentially open the priority. the security of people coul(to othertentially open the priority. the security of people coul(to other isis ally open the priority. the security of people coul(to other isis brides en the priority. the security of people coul(to other isis brides ,n the priority. the security of people coul(to other isis brides , of he door to other isis brides, of course, to want to return to the uk. absolutely. but look, i mean, you know, court decisions are i wouldn't i would never like to predict. i've seen some bizarre court decisions in my time. so i wouldn't want to i wouldn't want to wager that well we're going to find out. strange one. will find out at just

one. we will find out at just after 10:00. >> we will be getting that court of judgement live on of appeal judgement live here on gb news. >> yep, still more come, >> yep, still more to come, including the year including the two year anniversary russian anniversary of the russian invasion with anniversary of the russian inv'after with anniversary of the russian inv'after news with anniversary of the russian inv'after news a with anniversary of the russian inv'after news a brighter with us. after news a brighter outlook with boxt solar , outlook with boxt solar, sponsors of weather on . gb news. sponsors of weather on. gb news. >> good morning alex burkill here again with your latest gb news weather forecast. >> today is going to be a blustery and showery day for many of us. some of those showers turning pretty heavy. there is some frost around first thing across northern parts in particular, but otherwise, like i plenty of showers and i said, plenty of showers and some of these showers will turn heavy, even thundery heavy, possibly even thundery with some and even some with some hail and even some sleet or snow over the higher ground scotland . sunny spells sleet or snow over the higher gr

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sponsors of weather on. gb news. >> yeah, so any moment now we're going to hear the judgement on the isis bride. shamima begum. she's trying to overturn the fact she lost her british citizenship for running off with terror isis to syria. terror group isis to syria. don't go anywhere. we have that live stream very shortly. this is britain's newsroom on gb news, the people's channel with ben pit

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tomson >> will this isis bride return to the uk any minute now? we'll hear the judgement from the appeal court as shamima begum tries to overturn losing her british citizenship. >> speaker on the ropes. almost 70 mp5 >> speaker on the ropes. almost 70 mps have signed a letter of no confidence in sir lindsay hoyle after the gaza ceasefire debate . is hoyle after the gaza ceasefire debate. is his hoyle after the gaza ceasefire debate . is his authority hanging debate. is his authority hanging by a thread ? by a thread? >> islamists in charge of britain ? that is the claim this britain? that is the claim this morning from former home secretary suella braverman , who secretary suella braverman, who claims they are bullying britain into submission . into submission. >> mr deputy speaker in that spirit , today i can announce spirit, today i can announce a new package of 200 and brimstone anti—tank missiles in a further boost to defend ukraine and as we approach the two year anniversary of russia invading ukraine, defence secretary grant shapps pledges more military support this is on top of the £12 billion we've already given

them . since february 2022. them. since february 2022. >> and we've got a ukrainian mp on the show a bit later on who's going to discuss the need for much more support from not just us, but the us and our nato allies as well? >> we're going to be going to the appeal court for that ruling on shamima begum. very, very shortly. we're bringing it. you here your here live. first, let's get your headunes here live. first, let's get your headlines from tatiana de . headlines from tatiana de. >> pip, thank you very much . and >> pip, thank you very much. and good morning. your top stories from . the gb newsroom britain from. the gb newsroom britain is set to sign a new deal with the eu's border agency in a further bid . to stop small boats

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amount of energy . energy amount of energy. energy minister claire coutinho says the announcement is a positive start . start. >> £250 almost coming off people's energy bills is going to be really welcome news for families up and down the country. still have things country. we still have things like the of living, like the cost of living, payments in place, £900 for people who are really struggling because we know there are some people are still having people who are still having a difficult time, but overall, this news for people this is good news for people in the today . this is good news for people in the today. shamima the country today. shamima begum, who travelled to syria as a teenager and became an isis bride, is about to find out if she's won an appeal against the removal of her british citizenship. >> while we can take you live to the court of appeal for that ruling, 24 hour summary is not in substitution for nor does it form any part of our open judgement which we are handing down separately in writing.

>> at the end of this hearing. copy of that written judgement are available together with a written . citation . for our open written. citation. for our open judgement . written. citation. for our open judgement. is 2024 wca written. citation. for our open judgement . is 2024 wca civ 1152 judgement. is 2024 wca civ1152 and will appear on the national archives in the normal way . archives in the normal way. shamima begum was born in the united kingdom in august 1999. she lived and attended school in tower hamlets. her parents are of bangladeshi origin and through them miss begum had bangladeshi citizenship at least until . her 21st birthday in until. her 21st birthday in february 2015. miss begum, then aged 15, travel via turkey to syria and aligned with the organisation isil islamic state

of iraq and the levant, also known as isis or daesh . which known as isis or daesh. which controlled territory she described as the caliphate. she married an isil fighter soon after arriving. she went on to have three children. sadly none of whom survived . she was still of whom survived. she was still in the caliphate when it collapsed in january 2019, and was taken to a camp in north—east syria . section 40, north—east syria. section 40, subsection two of the british nationality act 1981, gives the secretary of state in practice . secretary of state in practice. the home secretary the power to depnve the home secretary the power to deprive a person of british citizenship if satisfied that deprivation is conducive to the pubuc. deprivation is conducive to the public. good. on the deprivation is conducive to the public . good. on the 19th of public. good. on the 19th of february 2009, 18, without prior

nofice february 2009, 18, without prior notice to miss begum, the then secretary of state made an order depriving her of british citizenship on the ground that it would be conducive to the pubuc it would be conducive to the public good to do so because her return to the united kingdom would present a risk to national security. there is a right of appeal to the special immigration appeals commission, siac , against orders for siac, against orders for deprivation of citizenship made on national security grounds . on on national security grounds. on the 3rd of may 2019, miss begum appued the 3rd of may 2019, miss begum applied for leave to enter the uk so that she could take part in her appeal to siac . her in her appeal to siac. her application was refused on the 26th of february, 2021. the united kingdom supreme court held that the secretary of state had acted lawfully in refusing miss begum leave to enter the united kingdom for the purposes

of her appeal to siac. miss begum elected to proceed with that appeal, notwithstanding that appeal, notwithstanding that she could not give evidence or be physically present . on the or be physically present. on the 22nd of february 2023, siak dismissed miss bagan's appeal against the deprivation decision . the issue in this appeal and for us, is whether siak was right to conclude that the deprivation decision was lawful . deprivation decision was lawful. miss begum put forward five grounds of appeal . ground one grounds of appeal. ground one echr. article four. the first ground was that the secretary of state had failed to consider whether miss begum had been a potential victim of trafficking for the purposes of sexual exploitation, and that this failure breached the obligations owed to her under article four

of the european convention on human rights siac had found that there was, at the very least a, quote, credible suspicion that she had been trafficked for such purposes. in 2015. it was not argued before us that this created an absolute bar to any deprivation order. we conclude that article four of the echr gave rise to no obviously material consideration in the context of the deprivation decision. the article four dufies decision. the article four duties relied on were the operational duties comp'd the protective and the recovery duties. protective and the recovery dufies.the protective and the recovery duties. the non—punishment principle, the investigative duty and the restitutionary duty. in our judgement, there were two obstacles in the way of miss begum's arguments based on breach of the protective duty . breach of the protective duty. the first was that siak had

found only an arguable breach of the protective duty by organs of the protective duty by organs of the state, not actual breach. the second was the passage of time between the arguable breach in 2015 and the deprivation decision in 2019, and the lack of any causal link between the two incidents. the recovery duty did not extend to repatriating a former victim of trafficking if they had been trafficked abroad . they had been trafficked abroad. article 16 of the ec european convention against trafficking did not assist the appellant in establishing such a duty . the establishing such a duty. the non—punishment principle also did not assist miss begum . there did not assist miss begum. there is no authority to suggest that the principle of non—punishment extends beyond criminal prosecutions . to extend the prosecutions. to extend the principle to a deprivation

decision would go beyond incremental development of the relevant jurisprudence . the relevant jurisprudence. the investigative duty and the argument that any investigation into the suspected trafficking . into the suspected trafficking. in 2015 could only be effective if miss begum were present in the united kingdom, was not in our judgement, the united kingdom, was not in ourjudgement, and obviously our judgement, and obviously material consideration for the secretary of state when making the deprivation decisions . three the deprivation decisions. three reasons for this one. it would be tantamount to an obligation to repatriate date. two it would be inconsistent with the supreme court's decision that the secretary of state was not required to give miss begum leave to enter to present her appeal. thirdly any investigative duty is only to take reasonable steps . ps and take reasonable steps. ps and siac were right to find that reasonable steps do not extend to repatriating a person

assessed to pose a threat to national security . no national security. no restitutionary duty was owed in the instant case, as there was no established breach of article four, a possible or arguable breach is insufficient to trigger the restitutionary duty . trigger the restitutionary duty. further, the asserted breach occurred four years before the deprivation decision . further deprivation decision. further the focus of a deprivation decision on the grounds of national security must, in our judgement, be the assessment of risk . we did not accept that an risk. we did not accept that an individual assessed as presenting a risk to national security must be repatriated or even that the secretary of state is required to consider repatriation in order to meet obugafions repatriation in order to meet obligations which might be owed under article four. ground two

trafficking issues at common law . the second ground was that the secretary of state failed to take into account the possible duty that miss begum had been a victim of trafficking for the purpose of sexual exploitation . purpose of sexual exploitation. when it was submitted that this was a breach of his duties at common law . although the common law. although the information before him did not discuss the case in terms of article four or of the european convention against trafficking , convention against trafficking, the secretary of state was aware of the circumstances of miss begum's departure to syria and the materials before him powerfully expressed the view that people who were children, when they went to align with isil should be considered first and foremost as victims . the and foremost as victims. the secretary of state took into account the possibility that

miss begum had been a victim of trafficking . that assessment was trafficking. that assessment was kept under review . after kept under review. after february 2019. siak was entitled to find that the issue of whether miss begum had travelled voluntarily was within the expertise of the intelligence agencies . voluntariness of agencies. voluntariness of travel was not a binary question , and miss begum may well have been influenced and manipulated by others , but still have made by others, but still have made a calculated decision to travel to syria and align with isil . the syria and align with isil. the assessment of the national security risk was, in our judgement , a security risk was, in our judgement, a question of evaluation and judgement entrusted by parliament to the secretary of . state. ground secretary of. state. ground three. de facto statelessness . three. de facto statelessness. the third ground was that the secretary of state failed to

consider that section 40 of the british national act, 1981 prohibits the making of a deprivation order if the consequence would be to make the person concerned stateless . it person concerned stateless. it is accepted that this means the uk stateless, that is to say stateless. as a matter of international law and that the deprivation order did not make miss begum so stateless because she still retained her bangladesh citizenship as. she still retained her bangladesh citizenship as . at bangladesh citizenship as. at february 2019, what was argued under ground three was that the secretary of state nevertheless failed to consider that the deprivation order would make miss begum de facto stateless. since there was no realistic possibility of the bangladeshi authorities permitting her to enter that country . siak held ,

enter that country. siak held, and we agree that it was sufficient that the ministerial submission and accompanying documents put before the secretary of state when he made the deprivation decision, indicated that there was no realistic possibility of miss begum being permitted to enter bangladesh . it was not necessary bangladesh. it was not necessary that he should also have been asked to consider separately the concept of de facto statelessness . ground for statelessness. ground for procedural fairness . siak had procedural fairness. siak had held , departing from its held, departing from its previous case law dating back to algida against the secretary of state for the home department that miss begum should have been notified of the secretary of state's intention to make a deprivation order against her, and should have been given the

opportunity to make representations . as we hold that representations. as we hold that at least a main purpose, if not the main purpose of section 40, subsection two of the british . subsection two of the british. national act, 1981 is to protect the public from a threat to national security , which could national security, which could be frustrated by a requirement to invite representations prior to invite representations prior to a deprivation decision notifying a person abroad of an intention to remove their citizenship . ukip could enable citizenship. ukip could enable that person to make a pre—emptive return to the united kingdom and frustrate the purpose of the deprivation decision in those deprived of their citizenship are afforded an appellate level. merits review of the deprivation decision through siak. review of the deprivation decision through siak . this decision through siak. this distinctive right to appeal and

the risk of pre—emptive action hour are in our judgement, hour are in ourjudgement, compelling reasons. to hour are in ourjudgement, compelling reasons . to construe. compelling reasons. to construe. section 43, subsection five of the british . national act 1981 the british. national act 1981 as exclude any right to prior consultation before a deprivation decision is made on national security grounds, as was held in al jeddah . in our was held in al jeddah. in our judgement , was held in al jeddah. in our judgement, siak fell into error in concluding that miss begum was entitled to the opportunity to make representations before the secretary of state took the deprivation decision . in any deprivation decision. in any event, however , siak was correct event, however, siak was correct to rule that it was immaterial that miss begum was not afforded the opportunity to make submissions prior to the deprivation decision . it was deprivation decision. it was inevitable that the secretary of

state would have made the same decision regardless of possible representations made by miss begum ground five. the public sector equality duty , the sector equality duty, the deprivation decision was exempt from considerations of the pubuc from considerations of the public sector equality duty under section 149 of the equality act 2010, pursuant to the exemption created . by the exemption created. by section 192 of the same act as it concerned, the safeguarding of national security . in this of national security. in this case, the public sector equality duty concerns were whether the exercise of deprivation powers did proportionately applied to british muslims and or impacted detriment totally upon the relation between members of

muslim communities and others . muslim communities and others. in our judgement , the national in our judgement, the national security exemption applies to any exercise of function or powers. as such , the national powers. as such, the national security . the deprivation security. the deprivation decision was exempt from the dufies decision was exempt from the duties that arose under section 149. the exemption did not require the court to undertake a separate proportionality assessment . in any event, siac assessment. in any event, siac had been correct to find that the deprivation power was exercised in a proportionate manner . in exercised in a proportionate manner. in conclusion , for these manner. in conclusion, for these reasons , we unanimously dismiss reasons, we unanimously dismiss the appeal . it could be argued the appeal. it could be argued that the decision in miss begum's case was as harsh. it

could also be argued that miss begum is the author of her own misfortune . but it begum is the author of her own misfortune. but it is for begum is the author of her own misfortune . but it is for not misfortune. but it is for not this court to agree or disagree with either point of view . our with either point of view. our only task is to assess whether the deprivation decision was unlawful . we have concluded it unlawful. we have concluded it was not and the appeal is dismissed . was not and the appeal is dismissed. mrjames was not and the appeal is dismissed . mrjames matthews so dismissed. mrjames matthews so there you have it . there you have it. >> the appeal court has dismissed the appeal of shamima bayegan. she wanted to return to the uk. she wanted to overturn on the government's decision to strip her of her british citizenship. but the appeal court said says no. she has to stay exactly where she is. that

appealis stay exactly where she is. that appeal is dismissed . appeal is dismissed. >> and i tell you what, in the in the context of what's happening in parliament and suella braverman's column this morning, think the nation, the morning, i think the nation, the majority nation probably majority of the nation probably is breathing a sigh of relief. is it a victory for common sense? gb views gb news. com >> um, let's bring in human rights lawyer david haig, who i'm sure was listening to this intently . david just just go intently. david just just go into a little bit more detail because there was a lot of obviously legal language there. just go into a little bit of detail about what that appeal court judge was saying . court judge was saying. >> good morning to you both. i mean, and effectively, it's a resounding rejection of begum's attempt to come back to britain and to fight her case. there for, um, and essentially what happened with the court of appeal. they've upheld the decisions of the special immigration appeal, um, court earlier, um, and this is, you

know, a long, long journey that, um, that miss begum's been on. um, and, and it's certainly, though not the end of the court battles , um, and it certainly battles, um, and it certainly was a resounding rejection, but now we look towards the supreme court , and i'm sure her legal court, and i'm sure her legal teams will be doing that. so it's not the end. >> right. so what exactly are her options? the supreme court, european court of human rights. >> yeah. so the first thing that she would need to do is go to the supreme court. now, you can make an appeal to the supreme court if it's a matter of public interest. and it could be easily. well not easily. think easily. well not easily. i think it able for her legal it would be able for her legal team to argue that it is. she's already been to the supreme court is a long court before. this is a long running battle. um, that's running legal battle. um, that's bouncing courts. and running legal battle. um, that's bourwould courts. and running legal battle. um, that's bourwould be courts. and running legal battle. um, that's bourwould be the courts. and running legal battle. um, that's bourwould be the firstts. and running legal battle. um, that's bourwould be the first step1d running legal battle. um, that's bourwould be the first step to that would be the first step to go the supreme court to show go to the supreme court to show that appeal decision that that the appeal decision that we've is wrong and we've just heard is wrong and that supreme court needs to that the supreme court needs to hearit that the supreme court needs to hear it because it's a matter of pubuc hear it because it's a matter of public a point public interest and on a point of if she is fails, then of law, if she is fails, then she could then go to the european court of human rights.

so imagine , i mean, so you can imagine, i mean, we've seen with with various cases like rwanda, etc, how long these take. so these legal processes take. so this is just going to go continue going on and on. i would imagine they will do both. and i would imagine , um, you and i would imagine, um, you know, this is going to go on for several years more. >> who's paying for all >> david, who's paying for all this? effectively are the this? uh effectively we are the british taxpayer. this? uh effectively we are the brit she :axpayer. this? uh effectively we are the britshe:axp(legal aid. um, and, >> she has legal aid. um, and, you know, i think it was nine years ago that she went to syria. and i think the legal battles, five years, i think it's been going on for so legal aid. so you can imagine the number of lawyers that have been involved, the level of the lawyers been involved involved, the level of the lawythe been involved involved, the level of the lawythe expense been involved involved, the level of the lawythe expense thaten involved involved, the level of the lawythe expense that we, volved involved, the level of the lawythe expense that we, the ed and the expense that we, the british are being put british taxpayer, are being put to. um, so you've got two more steps now after this, it will be i'm appeal to the i'm sure they will appeal to the supreme and that's supreme court. and if that's allowed that, it allowed and they lose that, it will be the european court of human rights. >> if went to european >> and if it went to european judges, do you get the feeling that outcome may be that the outcome may be different, bearing in mind our fractious relationship with the continent release the european union ? union? >> i bet i'm not. i'm not sure

that it would actually, because if look at the actual rights if you look at the actual rights that it depends what they argue. but whether or but if you look at whether or not, you can basically not, um, you can basically cancel someone's citizenship when look at the rights that when you look at the rights that are set down in the european human rights convention, as opposed to the un, it's not really there as a right that's given. to look given. they would have to look at of the other areas. so at one of the other areas. so it's not clear now, most of it's not very clear now, most of the, the judgements and the case that gone before the that have gone before the european courts have been about people a citizen people that want to be a citizen of a country, um, a rather than the other way around where it's been taken off. so it's unclear. it might actually be one occasion when you see the european court know, european court, um, you know, backing a, a decision of the, of the english courts. but, you know, let's see. but it's certainly not clear that i don't think that the european court would, would, would, would, would, would, would, would, would of the would um, be in favour of the application in making that judgement . judgement. >> are, is the appeal court also saying that they deem her a threat to the nation, or is that

not their call? >> i think that's not their that's not what their decision is. their decision is their their role is to find out if the lower court made any mistakes, if they followed basically the law and the procedure, if they made any errors in law or if they made any errors. in fact , they made any errors. in fact, it's not about and it's at the time of that decision. so it's not if there's new information now , if there's new evidence, now, if there's new evidence, it's at the time that the lower court made a decision were they correct in doing so? were there any errors? um miss begum's lawyers set out five grounds and that we just heard that the appeal court universally, you know , resoundly rejected all of know, resoundly rejected all of those . and a detailed judgement , those. and a detailed judgement, just even orally. i mean, we'll get the written one later as to why each of those was rejected . why each of those was rejected. so it's a very, very clear rejection of her attempts to come back to britain. i'm sure her lawyers will appeal to the supreme court. at least try to get permission to do that. and this will will go on. um and, you know, i'm sure we will all

be back here discussing this , be back here discussing this, um, several times in again. >> and david, in the meantime , >> and david, in the meantime, um, where is shamima begum going to be? is she just languishing in that refugee camp in syria still? yeah. she is. >> and i mean that there's effectively kind of almost two, two stories going on here. one was her the cancellation of her citizenship, was her citizenship, and one was her attempt back to the uk attempt to come back to the uk to fight that. um, that was something wasn't something that she wasn't allowed she was deemed allowed to do. so she was deemed obviously security threat and obviously a security threat and wasn't come back to wasn't allowed to come back to fight that and had to do that from from refugee in from from a refugee camp in syria, she where she syria, where she where she remains and will remain, um, until changes. until something changes. >> haig, thank you >> okay. david haig, thank you very for talking to us. very much for talking to us. david haig, human rights lawyer. really, useful analysis really, really useful analysis there. also, what's going to be useful is talking to our reporter charlie peters, about this ruling . it was quite this ruling. it was quite detailed , wasn't it, charlie? detailed, wasn't it, charlie? but they were very, very clear , but they were very, very clear, direct national security trumps all of those concerns raised by shamima beckham's legal team.

>> all five grounds have been dismissed. so it is a unanimous decision led there by lady chief justice sue carr. and i think , justice sue carr. and i think, as ben was alluding to before we came to this, this live shot from the court of appeal, this comes , of course, at a comes, of course, at a particularly fractious time in britain, just two days ago, we heard sir william shawcross, the independent reviewer and advisor, to prevent this country counter—extremism duty , saying counter—extremism duty, saying that he thinks it's failing and the public is still at risk. so some nine years after she fled from bethnal green over to syria, he is still raising concerns that this country is not doing enough to focus on counter extremism , in particular counter extremism, in particular on islamist terror. i mean, she fled with two schoolgirls, two fellow schoolgirls. >> they're believed to be dead. >> they're believed to be dead. >> well, they almost certainly have been killed by the international coalition leading who led airstrikes . they're who led airstrikes. they're still ongoing. that operation in syria and iraq. >> we're getting a lot of

viewers saying, how come she's entitled to legal aid here? why is taxpayer footing the bill is the taxpayer footing the bill for this? for all this? >> was a very >> well, that was a very controversial decision when it was first made. i mean, i can't remember ministerial remember what ministerial position at the time. position he had at the time. he's so but jeremy he's had so many. but jeremy hunt time said that hunt at the time said that he was uncomfortable the was uncomfortable with the decision senior decision, but no senior ministers time ministers actually took the time to shouldn't happen to say that shouldn't happen because legal aid is available to those who do not have the means independently means to independently fund their legal processes. but as we're hearing, this will go on as we've just heard from our from legal commentator . from our legal commentator. so concerns raised now is concerns will be raised now is how much more money can chumhum. i from the public purse, i think from the public purse, i think the start of last think as of the start of last yean think as of the start of last year, the bill to the taxpayer was already £5 million, which is, know, extortion . is, you know, extortion. >> and just a quick one on the, the, the process. we've seen with palestine, we've had of course, people bizarrely supporting rebels and so supporting houthi rebels and so on. think we're going to on. do you think we're going to get any support in public for shamima begum ? shamima begum? >> i think there are many people involved resurgence of involved in the resurgence of her public image since 2021, in

particular, that first ground that her legal team raised today, that she has been a victim of trafficking, trying to rebrand this issue not as a young woman who gave moral and wifely succour to one of the most evil forces in human history, but rather a child who was duped and conned by promises of a better life. i think out and out support for what she did and out support for what she did and what she was involved with is unlikely, but we will almost certainly throughout the day, hear people saying she a hear people saying she was a victim and is the wrong victim and this is the wrong decision think we decision and do you think we will her at all? will hear from her at all? >> we'll get any sort of comment from her because she has been interviewed before this interviewed before in this refugee where is. she refugee camp where she is. she was 15 back then she was 15 back then when she travelled syria. now 24 travelled to syria. she's now 24 years old, so she gave several interviews years old, so she gave several intervifact, when the >> in fact, when the metropolitan police were launching their investigation into, , developing grounds into, uh, developing grounds to depnve into, uh, developing grounds to deprive citizenship and deprive her citizenship and other charges to other potential charges to gather that intelligence, they actually inquiries to the actually made inquiries to the various media organisations that had met her to say any unpublished you have, we unpublished footage you have, we need it. unpublished footage you have, we needit.she unpublished footage you have, we

need it. she has spoken a lot to the media in particular since 2021, so i think can expect 2021, so i think we can expect a statement from her legal team and shamima later today. >> um , charlie peters, thank you >> um, charlie peters, thank you so much . we will, course be so much. we will, of course be bringing more coverage on bringing you more coverage on this news throughout this breaking news throughout the show. but in the last few moments, shamima begum has lost her over the removal her challenge over the removal of her british citizenship ship that has come from the court. of her british citizenship ship that has come from the court . an that has come from the court. an appeal of court of appeal , i appeal of court of appeal, i should say. much more to come after your morning news, here's tatiana . pip. tatiana. pip. >> thank you. we start with that breaking news as we've been heanng breaking news as we've been hearing isis bride shamima begum has lost an appeal over the removal of her british citizenship. the now 24 year old was a teenager when she left the uk to travel to syria and joined the so—called islamic state. her citizenship was later revoked on national security grounds last yean national security grounds last year, she lost her challenge against the decision at the

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>> you're listening to gb news radio . radio. >> well , come radio. >> well, come back to britain's newsroom. >> we're going to talk more about this breaking news that shamima begum , she has lost an shamima begum, she has lost an appeal over the removal of her british british citizenship. she is staying exactly where she is for now in a refugee camp in northern syria. let's talk to writer and commentator emma webb. good morning and broadcast journalist judith de silva, both in the studio . journalist judith de silva, both in the studio. emma, journalist judith de silva, both in the studio . emma, you're in the studio. emma, you're overriding thoughts on hearing that ruling by the court of appeal. >> i know i have a personal professional investment in this, but i felt physically relieved watching that judgement. i feel like my faith in the british legal system has been buoyed by it . um, if she legal system has been buoyed by it. um, if she if this

legal system has been buoyed by it . um, if she if this decision it. um, if she if this decision had gone the other way and she'd come been been granted the right to return, could you imagine now with what's happening with parliament, with what's happening gaza and israel? parliament, with what's happea ng gaza and israel? parliament, with what's happea symbol.gaza and israel? parliament, with what's happea symbol. she'sind israel? she's a symbol. she's a flashpoint for islamist sympathisers and for outright islamists. if she were allowed to return now, um, that would have been absolutely disastrous . have been absolutely disastrous. but i feel like my faith has been somewhat restored in the legal system. the fact that it was unanimous on all points, national security trumps all of these other considerations , these other considerations, particularly, i think, on the trafficking point . and that's trafficking point. and that's a very important one, because that's something that very often comes up time and time again. lawyers claimed that she was a victim of trafficking, and she would have been, uh, sexually exploited. and i think it's important that the judge has said in this case that , um, just said in this case that, um, just because she may there may have been some element of manipulation , there may have manipulation, there may have been some element of grooming . been some element of grooming. but she was still autonomous in making that decision. and this

is, really important is, i think, a really important point , that time at which point, that the time at which she to go to, to join isis she chose to go to, to join isis and to become part of that terrorist state building exercise that is guilty of genocide against yazidis christians, she after the fact that she went after she went after the um you'd seen journal ists and aid workers being beheaded and alan henning and james foley, she would have seen all of that on the news. there's no way she couldn't have done. and that she made the autonomous decision to go out there, whether she influenced or whether she was influenced or not. she and that she is not. and she and that she is a security threat to jump in. >> are you do you concur with what the court of appeal has said this morning? >> i do, because i always try to take an objective position that no matter how you gutturally take an objective position that no nabout how you gutturally take an objective position that no nabout how yoyourtturally feel about her or your sentiments towards her, the court essentially court of appeal is essentially not dating the case not relitigate dating the case that's been done. they're saying that's been done. they're saying that the parameters of that within the parameters of the was every point the law was every point addressed addressed addressed and addressed thoroughly, been, thoroughly, which it has been, and to this and they've had come to this unanimous decision it's not unanimous decision. so it's not a personal thing against her.

it's saying that you've exercised you've used exercised the law, you've used it best record course. it to its best record course. and this is the conclusion. nobody deprived you of anything. you right to. and having you had a right to. and having done thoroughly, is done that thoroughly, this is the conclusion. agree with that. >> um, just, i think they said >> um, i just, i think they said that, um, it could be argued that, um, it could be argued that the decision in her case was harsh. it could be argued that she's the author of her own misfortune but it's not misfortune soon, but it's not for to agree or for the court to agree or disagree with point of view. >> precisely. it's not their personal opinion on anything . personal opinion on anything. it's basically like saying, does the machinery work? and did you use it thoroughly? and you use it well? and they said, yes, that has been done. and this is the conclusion came with the conclusion you came with having done so, emma, said the conclusion you came with haviiand one so, emma, said the conclusion you came with haviiand actually mma, said the conclusion you came with haviiand actually irma, said the conclusion you came with haviiand actually irma, thataid that and actually i agree that you breathe a sigh of relief, and sure much the nation and i'm sure much of the nation would as well hearing would have as well hearing that judgement. do you think we're >> however, do you think we're now something of now going to see something of a support shimmer element to these protests? shamima process, as we've seen with the houthi rebels, people saying hands off yemen, off the houthis, yemen, hands off the houthis, even supporting hamas, are we going see sort of

going to see some sort of opportunist? um venture here where these pro palestine marchers are now morphing into something very different? >> i would be surprised . and >> i would be surprised. and she's always had her vociferous supporters. i don't know how widespread that would be amongst these protests , because that these protests, because that would be out and out support for, um, somebody who, you know, was a was an isis bride, was a member of isis. but that said, we've also seen an awful lot of support for hamas at these rallies. and exactly and they're also a proscribed terrorist organisation in. so i wouldn't i wouldn't be completely be um, i wouldn't be completely be um, i wouldn't be completely surprised by that. i think, like i said, that she has become a real symbol, um, for islamists here in britain around the world, and that she has in a, in a way, almost become a kind of islamist celebrity. yeah um, so i'm, i'm very , very pleased that this very, very pleased that this judgement has gone the way that it has . um, i judgement has gone the way that it has. um, i think it's right. of course, that you should be

able to to, follow through with the legal process of you have to be able to appeal these sorts of decisions runs. um, but as with the of, say, someone like the case of, say, someone like jack letts, who a dual jack letts, who was a dual canadian citizenship when he was depnved canadian citizenship when he was deprived of his citizenship, we heard nothing else about that. and in this case, i think, again, it's very important that, um, the judge ruled that they were right to consider that the home secretary only had to only had to deem it to be in law, that she was at rendered stateless and didn't have to consider the possibility of de facto statelessness . and like facto statelessness. and like i said, we didn't we didn't talk about jack letts after he was stripped of his citizenship . and stripped of his citizenship. and so i think if this is going to go for on ten, 20 years, we really do. going back to your segment earlier, need to consider, um, and have a proper conversation about the cut off point for where does it end? >> we will continue this conversation today , say it is a conversation today, say it is a massive win for the government, but there are options ahead for

shamima begum and her legal team i >> -- >> we'll -_ >> we'll be looking into that next year with britain's newsroom on

>> so. >> so. >> welcome back . it's 1048. >> welcome back. it's 1048. you're with ben and pip on britain's newsroom only on gb news emails flying in about that. shamima begum ruling. of course, she's lost her appeal to come back to the uk and regain her citizenship. leslie says good morning leslie. £5 million so far. this is on the taxpayer funded legal aid is a ridiculous amount of money. the lawyers representing her are not going to give up this golden goose. however vague the realistic chances are, and of course, it can go on and on and on. she can now go to the supreme court if she fails that, she can then go to european judges. so as david hague the human rights law hague said, the human rights law we spoke it's. yeah, we just spoke to, it's. yeah, not yet. not over yet. >> take a number of >> it could take a number of years. well, joined in the years. well, we're joined in the studio by writer and broadcaster emma and broadcast

emma webb and broadcast journalist silva. journalist judith da silva. judita. this race is winding a lot up the fact that lot of people up the fact that taxpayers money is being spent on this , i think we'll continue on this, i think we'll continue to be on this . to be spent on this. >> and i think that's also goes. it kind of lends even more weight credence weight and credence to the judgements because judgements we had today, because it's showing that you're still exploiting benefits of the exploiting the benefits of the country saying, while exploiting the benefits of the countryviolated, ying, while exploiting the benefits of the countryviolated, it's|, while having violated, it's fundamentally can't fundamentally so you can't really that you're of really say that you're much of a victim when they're still affording benefits of affording you the benefits of being part of this country and being part of this country and being governed under its system. but i come from family of but then i come from a family of lawyers, thing that's lawyers, and one thing that's always me about always fascinated me about shamima you case shamima is when you try a case like this that is so big, they say told me that say they always told me that it's just being tried on it's not just being tried on law, it's also public opinion and where you can try the and optics where you can try the toughest case the most toughest case with the most egregious you egregious accusations. if you have client, you can have a sympathy client, you can win because you turn public opinion and that's effectively your jury. opinion and that's effectively yourjury. shamima is very un. she's un appealing as a victim , she's un appealing as a victim, um, as someone to feel sorry for . from the minute we saw her the first time you heard, we heard her talk . i

first time you heard, we heard her talk. i remember my one of my uncles saying that they haven't prepped her properly because she doesn't come across as you like or because she doesn't come across as sorry you like or because she doesn't come across as sorry for.ou like or because she doesn't come across as sorry for. so like or because she doesn't come across as sorry for. so you're ike or because she doesn't come across as sorry for. so you're going feel sorry for. so you're going to lose as well? >> of course, as a reminder, she said the manchester said that the manchester arena bombings because bombings were justified because of the behaviour in the of the west's behaviour in the middle also told the middle east. she also told the bbc time that one thing bbc at one time that one thing that attracted her to isis was beheading and fighting beheading videos and fighting videos. so what can she do now? we've seen this transformation of her in recent years from, you know , wearing dress to know, wearing islamic dress to bafic know, wearing islamic dress to basic all caps and a more westernised approach. what do you she'll do now? if you think she'll do now? if anything , to kind of improve the anything, to kind of improve the opfics anything, to kind of improve the optics we were discussing about this? >> believe she has @ believe she has have >> i do believe she has to have the rebranded because you the optics rebranded because you don't come as about don't come across as about somebody or somebody who's pensive or feeling or, you know, there's any feeling of guilt of what for what has happened . and because what has happened. and because even the baseball caps , even when the baseball caps, when her, she seems like when you see her, she seems like she's westernising, but there's a to her nature. a defiance to her nature. they're setting clients that you never let speak , even though never let speak, even though you're defending them. believe you're defending them. i believe she done an she never should have done an

interview, she's interview, ever. and she's someone away from the someone you keep away from the public, you talk about her, public, and you talk about her, but don't talk to her because she laundered herself she hasn't laundered herself enough dealing with the enough to be dealing with the public. enough to be dealing with the putwhat you say to those >> what would you say to those people believe that she is people that believe that she is still our responsibility and we don't want her, but we shouldn't be palming her off on on to other nations. >> there are solid arguments that it's better to have keep your enemies close because you can monitor what she's doing, but that's going to cost money. and long will you monitor and how long will you monitor her but then at the same her for? but then at the same time, part of the glory of being a is those a british citizen is those protections that they provide. even when you up. even when you mess up. so there's the there's a bigger question. the bigger conversation about is it possible when you commit a possible that when you commit a certain crime, your country can write shouldn't write you off and that shouldn't be possible? so there is valid validation that argument. validation to that argument. >> why we invite >> and so why should we invite her back spend extortionate her back and spend extortionate amounts money keeping amounts of money keeping her in prison and fed and dressed when she again remind people she lets again remind people what she did, she went to join a terror cult who burned people alive in cages, who stoned women

and children they committed as the un said, a genocide against a yazidi men, women and children . thousands of people dead. so the most horrible and gruesome things. yet, she decided , lid things. yet, she decided, lid off her own back to go and join that cult. and at 15, i don't know about you, but i was bunking off school to play video games, that kind thing. games, that kind of thing. >> year, is it? i >> it's not a gap year, is it? i mean, i there's a certain irony to the trafficking claims because of course isis were hugely involved in sexual slavery, of yazidi slavery, particularly of yazidi women, sex slave markets women, and had sex slave markets . but there are also accusations against her that, of course, her legal team would dispute that she was involved in the al—khansaa brigade, which was a an all female isis brigade that were involved in in in essentially forced ang morality codes on on people things like the clothes that you wear um and you know she she has no point really shown as, as judita was saying, she hasn't really shown proper remorse for that. and i

think if she were to come back to the uk, you say, how much money would we spend keeping money would we spend on keeping her in prison? but the reality is that i don't think that she would see justice if she was allowed back the because allowed back to the uk, because particularly allowed back to the uk, because particultbut for isis, um, women. but for isis, um, fighters in general, it's very difficult to collect sufficient evidence happened in a evidence of what's happened in a war zone in order to prosecute them. so it's unlikely she would see justice here. instead we would probably would be would probably it would be likely that, know, she likely that, you know, maybe she would prison would have a small prison sentence, but you can't sort of retroactively , she'd need a new identity. >> and surely in all the costs that come with that. and also, she could walk the streets of britain and she would need to be permanently watched as well, because would flashpoint. >> and so there would be all of these considerations that these other considerations that would probably a huge to would probably be a huge cost to the taxpayer. either way, the taxpayer. so either way, we're a fortune her. we're paying a fortune for her. >> thank both for now. >> okay. thank you both for now. talk you very shortly. talk to you again very shortly. up talk to you again very shortly. up be talking about up next, we'll be talking about the home secretary, the former home secretary, suella braverman. now she's written quite incendiary written quite an incendiary article telegraph

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weather on. gb news. >> still to come, more reaction to that pivotal shamima begum decision at the court of appeal. she, of course, has lost her decision. her bid to come back to the uk and actually the email inbox. i've never seen a story like you pick up? the like it. have you pick up? the emails flying from you, emails are flying in from you, so we're going to stuck into so we're going to get stuck into a of those. i keep doing this. >> you keep seeing me doing this because i'm trying look at because i'm trying to look at all your messages and actually but impossible. are but it's impossible. so we are going to be reading some of them

break. >> it is 11 am. on friday, the 23rd of february. good morning . 23rd of february. good morning. this is britain's newsroom with ben leo and pip tomson. isis bride loses her appeal. >> shamima begum loses her latest bid to overturn a decision by the government to strip her of british citizen pip. she remains in syria in a

refugee camp with no chance of return to the uk, stopping the boats. >> home secretary james cleverly has signed a new deal with the eu's border agency to tackle migrant dinghies, crossing the channel. islamist in charge of britain. >> that's the message this morning from former home secretary suella braverman, who claims islamists are bullying britain into submission . britain into submission. >> mr deputy speaker , in that >> mr deputy speaker, in that spirit, today i can announce a new package of 200 brimstone anti—tank missiles in a further boost to defend . ukraine as we boost to defend. ukraine as we approach the two year anniversary of russia invading ukraine, the defence secretary pledges more military support. >> but this is in addition to the 12 billion given to . ukraine the 12 billion given to. ukraine since february 2022.

>> there's only one story, isn't there, pip, which is getting the inbox absolutely wild. shamima begum, she's lost her appeal to come back to the uk after we stripped her of her citizenship for running off to become an isis bride. now, though, it's not the end of the story, is it? it could go on for many more years. >> she has got the chance to go to the supreme court , and after to the supreme court, and after that she could go to the european court of human rights. so it's not over yet. there are opfions. so it's not over yet. there are options . give so it's not over yet. there are options. give us your so it's not over yet. there are options . give us your thoughts options. give us your thoughts this morning. vaiews@gbnews.com. let's get a round up of all your headlines. now with tatiana . now with tatiana. >> pip thank you . 11:02. your >> pip thank you. 11:02. your top stories from the gb newsroom. isis bride shamima begum has lost an appeal over the removal of her british citizen ship, the now 24 year old was a teenager when she left the uk to travel to syria and

joined the so—called islamic state. her citizenship was later revoked on national security grounds last year , she lost grounds last year, she lost a challenge at the special immigration appeals commission and now three judges have upheld that ruling . however, human that ruling. however, human rights lawyer david haig says begum could still take further action. >> see what happened with the court of appeal. they've upheld the decisions of the special immigration appeal, um court earlier, um and this is, you know, a long, long journey that, um, that miss begum's been on. um, and it's certainly, though not the end of the court battles. um and it certainly was a resounding rejection, but now we look towards the supreme court , and i'm sure her legal court, and i'm sure her legal teams will be doing that. so it's not the end. and. >> britain has signed a new deal with the eu's border agency in a further bid to stop small boats crossing the channel. the deal agreed with frontex, will see the uk border force cooperate

more closely with its european counterparts on intelligence and training. the home secretary has welcomed the european home affairs commissioner to oversee the signing of the landmark agreement, so far this year, 1716 people have made the crossing . james cleverly says crossing. james cleverly says the deal will help tackle the issue . issue. >> it means we can share information quicker, share intelligence quicker, we can operate more effectively and the reason that's important is because the eu wants to secure its external borders, just as we do so people who are coming into europe from eastern europe, across the mediterranean , in the across the mediterranean, in the european union, wants to stop them. we want to help them, stop them, because those people filter through europe and ultimately find themselves on small boats coming across to the uk . house holds will see their uk. house holds will see their energy bills drop to the lowest level in two years as energy regulator ofgem has announced , regulator ofgem has announced, it's dropping the price cap by

12.3% in response to wholesale price is effective from april . price is effective from april. >> it means a typical energy bill will fall by £238 . to bill will fall by £238. to £1,690. energy secretary claire coutinho says the announcement is good news for families . is good news for families. >> £250 almost coming off people's energy bills is going to be really welcome. news for families up and down the country . we still have things like the cost of living, payments in place, £900 for people who are really struggling because we know there are some people who are still having a difficult time. but overall this is good news people country news for people in the country today. >> child serial killer lucy letby is bid to appeal her convictions will be heard in court in april. convictions will be heard in court in april . she was court in april. she was sentenced to 14 whole life orders after she killed seven babies and attempted to murder six others at a hospital where she worked between june 2015 and 2016. if judges declined to give permission, it'll be the end of

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last of nasa's apollo program in 1972. for the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen. or you can go to gb news .com/ alerts . now back gb news .com/ alerts. now back to ben and . pip. to ben and. pip. >> good morning . welcome to >> good morning. welcome to britain's newsroom. it is coming up to 1108. this is ben leo and pip tomson >> shall we read some emails? you've gone absolutely crazy about this shamima begum decision. and actually, i wonder what the reaction would have beenif what the reaction would have been if she was allowed to come back.i been if she was allowed to come back. i dread to think, beth says further court appeals should not be paid for by british aid. think the british legal aid. i think the appeal should not be appeal itself should not be granted aid as granted legal aid as the original decision, in original court decision, in my opinion, and correct . opinion, was final and correct. she needs to go through the opinion, was final and correct. she nprocess.go through the opinion, was final and correct. she nprocess. ofthrough the opinion, was final and correct. she nprocess. of coursei the opinion, was final and correct. she nprocess. of course it1e legal process. of course it would be argued. legal process. of course it wotyeahe argued. legal process. of course it wotyeah .argued. legal process. of course it wotyeah . amanda says it is time >> yeah. amanda says it is time the government amended legal aid funding laws on national security cases . security cases. >> and shirley says if she's not

a british citizen anymore , why a british citizen anymore, why are we paying her legal aid? great question. actually, she's going getting around. going to be getting around. i think total it's been think the total it's been reported is some £5 million. if and she goes to the supreme and when she goes to the supreme court to today's court to appeal today's decision, which doubt she'll decision, which no doubt she'll do. yeah >> and actually, most of your views are all most of your views are about this legal aid issue. people not understanding why. it's why it's capped. and we keep we keep paying for it, especially as she's had her british citizenship revoke act. well, let's dig into this a little bit more with michael walker from novara media. good to see you again, michael. what's your reaction to this ruling ? ruling? >> um, well, i suppose the issue with this, the moral issue, i think , i don't think anyone has think, i don't think anyone has much sympathy for shamima begum. is our problem ? is she is she our problem? is she a problem of our creation and therefore is it fair for us to dump her on, you know, essentially a much poorer country, syria, deal with? country, syria, to deal with? the have decided that the judges have decided that regardless the judges have decided that regardleszit was legal. the judges have decided that regardleszit was legal . and the question, it was legal. and the decision that was by the

decision that was made by the home secretary terms of this home secretary in terms of this legal issue, which sort of legal aid issue, which sort of i know of your audience seem know lots of your audience seem somewhat exercised about. can somewhat exercised about. i can understand why people are annoyed about paying money towards someone like shamima begum, who, as inspires begum, who, as i say, inspires no , think, most no sympathy from, i think, most normal the country. normal people in the country. but do think it is important but i do think it is important that we don't let extreme cases like allow us to sort of like this allow us to sort of abandon all of our principles of due process, because i think that be somewhat throwing that would be somewhat throwing the with bath the baby out with the bath water. viewer made a really >> but our viewer made a really good there. actually, good point there. and actually, i know the answer it. i want to know the answer to it. she's not technically a british citizen anymore, so why is she still legal aid? still getting legal aid? >> because she's precisely >> well, because she's precisely appealing revoke >> well, because she's precisely appof.ing revoke >> well, because she's precisely appof citizenship revoke >> well, because she's precisely appof citizenship . revoke >> well, because she's precisely appof citizenship . so revoke >> well, because she's precisely appof citizenship . so if revoke >> well, because she's precisely appof citizenship . so if you're.e her of citizenship. so if you're if care about is due if what you care about is due process and the idea the process and the idea that the state can your state can revoke your citizenship and therefore you immediately legal immediately lose all legal rights citizenship, rights as a british citizenship, that of against that would sort of be against the of being able to the principles of being able to appeal a decision. >> would you have her back >> so would you have her back then on the streets london? >> so would you have her back the well, he streets london? >> so would you have her back the well, ie streets london? >> so would you have her back the well, i wouldn't london? >> so would you have her back the well, i wouldn't lorher ? >> well, i wouldn't want her back on the streets of london. i suppose the issue is prison. in prison. think ideally, prison. i mean, i think ideally, you mean, do you

you know, i mean, do you subscribe to the notion that you can closer eye on people can keep a closer eye on people like that by keeping them closer to i think for the to you? well, i think for the safety of people, it's safety of british people, it's probably helpful for her to safety of british people, it's proin bly helpful for her to safety of british people, it's proin syria helpful for her to safety of british people, it's proin syria than elpful for her to safety of british people, it's proin syria than here. for her to safety of british people, it's proin syria than here. with|er to be in syria than here. with a close eye kept on her. but at the same time, you've also got to think about syria as a country. we've of exported country. we've sort of exported that as she that problem, as it were. she was born britain. so yes, was born in britain. so yes, it's difficult situation for it's a difficult situation for anyone who has to deal with the shamima problem. right. shamima begum problem. right. but necessarily think but i don't necessarily think it's for to sort it's legitimate for us to sort of that problem to of outsource that problem to someone of outsource that problem to sonande you agree with the >> and do you agree with the concept that most of the country >> and do you agree with the concbe that most of the country >> and do you agree with the concbe breathingt of the country >> and do you agree with the concbe breathing ayf the country >> and do you agree with the concbe breathing a sighs country >> and do you agree with the concbe breathing a sigh ofyuntry will be breathing a sigh of relief this decision relief at this decision today, not because what we've not least because of what we've seen in parliament? the chaos with that vote and the speaker, sir but also this sir lindsay hoyle. but also this quite in quite damning column in the daily telegraph today from suella braverman, this suella braverman, who says this is great country. suella braverman, who says this isknew great country. suella braverman, who says this isknew islamists great country. suella braverman, who says this isknew islamists are it country. suella braverman, who says this isknew islamists are bullying'. suella braverman, who says this isknew islamists are bullying us i knew islamists are bullying us into submission. could you imagine the tension if that decision court of decision today at the court of appeal allowed her, shamima begum, to come back to the uk? >> well, i suppose what i would say that is if a decision say to that is if a decision such as and you know, i'm

such as that and you know, i'm not legal expert, i don't not a legal expert, i don't really have an opinion on the decision by the judges. decision made by by the judges. but i think if for us to have let back someone who has committed terrible crimes and them then prison that, them then go to prison for that, to create some huge to sort of create some huge social division social social division and social tension, would show sort tension, i think would show sort of of our society. tension, i think would show sort othink of our society. tension, i think would show sort othink we of our society. tension, i think would show sort othink we shouldf our society. tension, i think would show sort othink we should be ur society. tension, i think would show sort othink we should be we ociety. tension, i think would show sort othink we should be we should i think we should be we should be accepting that sort of we're strong enough deal with one strong enough to deal with one person returning. >> an isolated >> if it was an isolated incident, i could probably agree with saying in with you, but i'm just saying in the of the what's going the context of the what's going on moment, well, the on at the moment, well, the context what's going on context of what's going on at the moment. >> the context the suella >> so the context of the suella braverman article, i think everyone's been taken for an absolute so? well, absolute ride. why so? well, essentially had on essentially what you had on on wednesday, lindsay comes wednesday, lindsay hoyle comes into says, i'm into parliament and says, i'm going both amendments into parliament and says, i'm goinhe both amendments into parliament and says, i'm goinhe says both amendments into parliament and says, i'm goinhe says that'sh amendments into parliament and says, i'm goin he says that's because ments into parliament and says, i'm goin he says that's because the ts and he says that's because the rules all the rules are archaic. all the labour cheer. they're very labour mps cheer. they're very happy. moment. happy. this is a great moment. right there is a backlash right then there is a backlash from who that from mps who thinks that parliamentary have from mps who thinks that parliesubverted, have from mps who thinks that parliesubverted, and have from mps who thinks that parliesubverted, and then ave been subverted, and then suddenly comes what suddenly he comes out. what excuse can i use? oh, threats. and now we're all this and now we're all having this debate about islamists controlling the country, or why would have why would he not have said, why would he not have said, why

would on would he not have said on wednesday that that was the issue? why he wait until the issue? why did he wait until the following day? said, the following day? he said, the reason overturning reason i'm overturning parliamentary precedent or whatever because whatever it is, is, is because i want voices to be heard. it want more voices to be heard. it seems a post—facto no seems to me a post—facto no excuse, which was used, which is now people like suella now allowed. people like suella braverman lot of braverman and quite a lot of hosts channel. i have to braverman and quite a lot of hostto channel. i have to braverman and quite a lot of hostto sort channel. i have to braverman and quite a lot of hostto sort of:hannel. i have to braverman and quite a lot of hostto sort of use nel. i have to braverman and quite a lot of hostto sort of use this i have to braverman and quite a lot of hostto sort of use this as ave to braverman and quite a lot of hostto sort of use this as thisto say, to sort of use this as this massive excuse to stoke a lot of fear about essentially lots of people who are protesting against genocidal right? against a genocidal war. right? in either way, whether the >> either way, whether the reality starmer reality is that, yes, starmer and labour pressure on and labour put pressure on lindsay to behave as lindsay hoyle to behave as he did, actually the truth did, or it's actually the truth that behaved in that way that hoyle behaved in that way because he protecting mps. because he was protecting mps. he was fearful of threats to their either way, their safety. either way, the end isnt end result for democracy isn't good, is it? >> yeah, but sure, i think that was terrible decision. but was a terrible decision. but what we're talking about now is a of home secretary who a form of home secretary who wants leader of wants to be the next leader of the conservative party. >> has not jumped >> suella has not jumped on this. been she's been this. she's been she's been banging months banging this drum for months and months months. and it's why months and months. and it's why she was sacked. >> i think it's i think it's >> and i think it's i think it's a very bad to be banging. a very bad drum to be banging. right. | a very bad drum to be banging. right. i have problem with

right. i have a problem with islamist have right. i have a problem with isproblem have right. i have a problem with isproblem with have right. i have a problem with isproblem with far have right. i have a problem with isproblem with far right have a problem with far right extremism. right. and well, not 90% of of suspects on the 90% of the of suspects on the terror in terror watch list in this country are islamist extremists. so two mps been killed in so two mps have been killed in the past decade, one by a far right by right extremist, one by an islamist now as islamist extremist. now as you've recognised there, you've sort of recognised there, i think problem with i think one problem with islamist extremism is it has led to more acts terrorism. my to more acts of terrorism. my problem far right extremism problem with far right extremism is way access to is it has way more access to power. and have to say, power. and i have to say, gb news, think an example of news, i think is an example of this. so there was a an exclusive yesterday actually from sort of from hope not hate sort of showing what tweets. showing who what tweets. >> load of your owner >> that was a load of your owner had an and retweeted it had liked an and retweeted it probably is worth reading them out. tweets those out. those tweets half those tweets. the majority of normal thinking people country. thinking people in this country. okay, let's let's test okay, well, let's let's test let's it. let's test it. >> let's see. »- >> let's see. >> what can i say and hope not hate as well. call hate as well. they call themselves an anti extremist organisation. they some organisation. they are some of the far left. well the most extreme far left. well agitators. let's read the tweets. >> tweets. let's read the >> some tweets. let's read the tweets. these ones tweets. so these are the ones that your co—owner liked. it is just a matter of before just a matter of time before civil starts in europe. the civil war starts in europe. the nafive civil war starts in europe. the native european population is

losing with losing patience with fake refugee . now refugee invaders. now i'm against extremism , against violent extremism, warning civil war, a warning about a civil war, a civil war. 7.5% of the british pubuc civil war. 7.5% of the british public are muslims . you know, public are muslims. you know, the vast, vast majority of them taxpayers, decent people . and taxpayers, decent people. and he's talking well, he's liking a tweet about civil war. well, tweet about a civil war. well, yeah, got another one here yeah, we've got another one here talking. yeah, we've got another one here talkinghe , he tweet. >> he he, he liked to tweet. these are not tweets but that he has pattern. has a pattern. >> i'll just read one more okay. if we want european civilisation to need not just to survive, we need to not just close borders start mass close the borders but start mass expulsions we don't expulsions immediately. we don't stand unless we start stand a chance unless we start that soon. that process very soon. >> do know what? do you know >> do you know what? do you know what that tweet is? michael? do you know what that tweet in you know what that tweet was in response the way, sir response to? by the way, sir paul marshall write that. paul marshall didn't write that. he i just said he he just tweeted i just said he liked one he liked well, this this one he retweeted. and you know what retweeted. and do you know what that tweet was in response to? do you know, it was in response to video some in africa. >> it was ross kemp interviewing people calais who people in calais who didn't understand concept of rape. understand the concept of rape. >> he trying to ask them >> he was trying to ask them what woman? >> and do you think that's an argument for mass expulsions of

people who are already in this country rapists? people who are already in this couyes. rapists? >> yes. >> yes. >> well, of there aren't enough rapists mass expulsions rapists to have mass expulsions of rapists. tweet tweeting of rapists. tweet is tweeting about people's ethnic backgrounds. the about people's ethnic backgwasids. the about people's ethnic backgwas referring the about people's ethnic backgwas referring to the about people's ethnic backgwas referring to a the about people's ethnic backgwas referring to a rapist. e right was referring to a rapist. one tweet. so is one one more tweet. so this is one he did retweet. pascal's wager in century. may or in the 21st century. god may or may not be real, but the other side is passionate, so side is so passionate, so committed to worshipping satan, evil homosexuals, and corrupting children that even if god wasn't real, to offend real, believing in him to offend these is preferable. these demons off is preferable. now, homosexual, find now, as a homosexual, i find that somewhat offensive. so i think are talking, if think if we are talking, if we're talking extremism in we're talking about extremism in this there are this country, yes, there are some extremists radical that are not islamists, but is also not islamists, but there is also a is funded by a channel which is funded by someone clearly has very someone who clearly has very extremist not extremist beliefs, are not actually defend actually here to defend themselves. actually here to defend themselv> there is a statement which we will which will bring people will which we will bring people hope, are not? hope, not hate. are we not? >> that statement now. >> i read that statement now. so, sir paul marshall statement >> i read that statement now. so,said)aul marshall statement >> i read that statement now. so,said)aljanuary all statement >> i read that statement now. so,said)aljanuary all sttsorry.1t he said in january 2024 sorry. no, there we go. that's uh oh. one second. it's a very divisive ideology, which i mean , he seems ideology, which i mean, he seems to be endorsing here. >> and which is so which is so often propounded from this seems from this tv station , it he

from this tv station, it he seems to be endorsing it. >> he did not write those tweets themselves. he does have a reply to this well. to all this as well. >> so he his reply is to say that, you know, there's lots of stuff on twitter. it's a small proportion what he's been proportion of what he's been tweeting. hope not. hate actually it's not that actually said. it's not that small what small a proportion of what he's been and think it's been tweeting and i think it's also you've got to look also i mean, you've got to look here, if this was isolated, if this is entitled to an this is not entitled to an opinion, though, this is what we exist for, to have broad exist for, to have a broad range of opinion not shut of opinion and to not shut people down. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> well, so mean, we are >> well, so i mean, so we are having conversation here about having a conversation here about extremism, and think extremism, right. and i think one always is implicit in a conversation about extremism is there of limit. so there is some sort of limit. so you're talking about who you're talking about people who are radical are talking about radical violent islamism. they should go on the prevent programme . right? on the prevent programme. right? i think that people who i also think that people who think to be some think there's going to be some civil between been a small civil war between been a small ethnic minority and mean, he ethnic minority and i mean, he is talking the native is talking about the native population. that to me is violent extremism something. population. that to me is violme extremism something. population. that to me is violmejustemism something. population. that to me is violme just speaks something. population. that to me is violme just speaks to ;omething. population. that to me is violme just speaks to violentng. extremism. >> let me just read sir paul's statement. he said paul marshall's private , marshall's account is private,

but followed by but is nonetheless followed by 5000 many 5000 people, including many journalists . he posts on a wide journalists. he posts on a wide variety of subjects and those cited represent a small and unrepresentative sample of over 5000 sample not 5000 posts. this sample does not represent sir paul marshall's views, most x twitter views, as most x twitter users know, it can be a fountain of ideas, but some of it is uncertain quality, and all his posts been deleted. posts have now been deleted. to avoid further misunderstanding. >> the issue of >> i suppose the issue of representativeness well. so representativeness as well. so there you know, 7.5% of there are, you know, 7.5% of britain muslims. there is a britain are muslims. there is a very, minority very, very small minority of those violent islamists. those who are violent islamists. and then how much time is spent in papers as the telegraph, in papers such as the telegraph, which, way, wants to which, by the way, he wants to buy such as news, buy on channels such as gb news, talking about this apparent threat islamist threat of violent islamist extremism, plenty extremism, there's plenty of time papers time spent on other papers telling side of telling the opposite side of this no one's defending. he was defending extremism, defending islamist extremism, are they? >> w- w— >> so somebody else will write the opposite. in the guardian. >> don't think anyone is >> well, i don't think anyone is in the guardian saying violent radical islamists the radical islamists are the opposite is the best opposite to what is the best thing. the opposite to thing. right? the opposite to suella yes. suella braverman is saying yes. well, opposite being that well, the opposite being that we're towards some well, the opposite being that we'reof towards some well, the opposite being that we'reof civil towards some well, the opposite being that we'reof civil war towards some well, the opposite being that we'reof civil war opinion. s some kind of civil war opinion. they're their

opinion. >> don't have to agree with >> you don't have to agree with it. we can discuss. they're entitled to opinion. entitled to their opinion. >> think we're talking >> but i think we're talking about here is extreme views in society, somewhat society, which are somewhat undermining social cohesion. you're i you're saying there's not i agree, this country. agree, some in this country. >> i think there is a >> well, i think there is a i think there are some radical islamists. seven, seven is islamists. seven, seven that is a david amess. mike freer, i think the idea that think the think the idea that i think the idea idea 17. idea london, the idea 17. >> london 2019. >> london bridge 2019. westminster westminster >> london bridge 2019. westnthe er westminster >> london bridge 2019. westnthe er attackinster >> london bridge 2019. westn the er attack ,|ster >> london bridge 2019. westnthe er attack , batley 2020. the reading attack, batley grammar weekly hamas sympathetic marches through london from the to on big ben. so to river the sea on big ben. so there were issues are there were two issues are concerned there two issues concerned there are two issues which to be separated. which need to be separated. >> there are two issues that need to separated. so isis need to be separated. so isis style terrorism, right. style radical terrorism, right. obviously appalling . obviously absolutely appalling. we sure that we need to make sure that the police are clamping down properly on that. other properly on that. the other issue are lot of issue is that there are a lot of muslims in this country, lots of them angry about a war them very angry about a war going gaza, which think going on in gaza, which i think is perfectly legitimate, are is perfectly legitimate, who are being smeared as on the same spectrum the of people spectrum as the kind of people who out the seven over who carried out the seven over seven now, i don't try seven bombing. now, i don't try and that everyone who voted and say that everyone who voted brexit, wants to brexit, everyone who wants to stop know, stop immigration is, you know, of type of person as

of the same type of person as the who jo cox. the person who killed jo cox. right? so i think we have to be very careful about generalisation, an obviously violent massive violent extremism, a massive problem, trying lump problem, but trying to lump a whole minority in with whole ethnic minority in with a tiny, tiny minority of violent extremist , i tiny, tiny minority of violent extremist, i think is very, very dangerous. okay michael, we're going have leave it there going to have to leave it there and breathe . and breathe. >> nice debate. lively still to come. it's the eve of the second anniversary of russia's invasion of ukraine, and we'll be joined by a ukrainian mp, actually, to tell we should tell us why we should keep funding their war effort. that comes off the back, of course, of um, uh, finances. is it of new, um, uh, finances. is it 12 billion grant shapps? >> we are talking about that. next is a two year anniversary. tomorrow you're with britain's newsroom lively gb newsroom on a very lively gb news.

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broadcast journalist juditha da silva studio with us now, silva in the studio with us now, shall we talk about suella braverman? quite damning telegraph article emma, telegraph in the article emma, she says this is no longer the great i knew. islamists great country i knew. islamists are bullying submission are bullying us into submission has she got a point or is she, as michael walker just said, jumping on the chance to stoke the flames? jumping on the chance to stoke the i lames? she jumping on the chance to stoke the i lames?she might be doing >> i mean, she might be doing this um, for political this for, um, for political reasons . she might be reasons. she might be positioning herself in a particular way politically, but that doesn't that that doesn't mean that she doesn't what she's doesn't also believe what she's saying. nor does it not mean saying. and nor does it not mean that she's correct it. i think what we saw in parliament with, quote, holgate as now being quote, holgate as it's now being referred the fact that referred to, plus the fact that we saw, um, a genocidal chant being projected onto the, um, our parliament and also one of our parliament and also one of our most iconic landmarks . um, i our most iconic landmarks. um, i think she's right. the our most iconic landmarks. um, i think she's right . the fact think she's right. the fact that, um, parliament behaved as it did, um , out of and changed it did, um, out of and changed procedures out of fear of threats from islamists. the fact that, as she's pointed out in this article, that mike freer

had to resign from his position because of death threats and because of death threats and because office because of death threats and beceburned office because of death threats and beceburned down office because of death threats and beceburned down and office because of death threats and beceburned down and actually,e was burned down and actually, even the fact that we've just seen in, um, in response to seen in, um, so in response to this, we saw that the home secretary, james cleverly, saying that disagreeing with her and that by the and saying that we live by the rule law, um, i think he must rule of law, um, i think he must think the british public think that the british public just don't have when just simply don't have eyes when you actually, only just you see that actually, only just now a video now there's been a video released simon released online of simon danczuk, who's the, um, rochdale reform candidate being prevented from entering the hustings there. so we have a serious problem with democracy in this country. >> there is there is an opposing view from people that she she has written that article and it does use it does use incendiary language, very strong and she is being accused of attacking muslims and immigrants in order to win votes . and also this to win votes. and also this article comes 24 hours after um , article comes 24 hours after um, statistics showed that there's been a huge increase in anti—muslim hate . and some anti—muslim hate. and some people will question and say ,

people will question and say, well, her writing that isn't going to help the situation . we going to help the situation. we know there's a massive rise on both sides. >> there is nothing islamophobic about pointing out what she has pointed out. there is nothing islamophobic about pointing out that the fact that there are extreme islamists in this country that have threaten ed parliamentary candidates and that that's the reason why sir lindsay hoyle made the decision that he made . so it's that he made. um, so it's completely besides the point, the fact that if we're talking about hatred, the fact that the metropolitan police did not arrest the people who were projecting on those, the genocidal slogan from the river to the sea, palestine will be free onto our parliament building. that's what we should be talking about. this not be talking about. this is not islamophobic. do you do you agree with that review? >> it's walney, >> i think it's lord walney, isn't where saying that isn't it, where he's saying that protests not happen protests should not happen outside buildings ? outside public buildings? >> no, don't, i'm not. >> no, i don't, i'm not. >> you think they should not. it's that dividing line. >> in favour of cracking >> i'm not in favour of cracking down protests . i think in

down on protests. i think in this instance there are rules about how you can protest outside of parliament. there are certain areas that you're not allowed to protest on, and those actually have been those rules have on occasion been sort of ignored by the police. you've seen there have been people seen that there have been people protesting areas where protesting in the areas where they're supposed be. they're not supposed to be. there rules to ensure that there are rules to ensure that mps can in and out of mps can go in and out of parliament, freely , so that parliament, um, freely, so that protesters can't prevent them from can't from doing that, can't essentially besiege parliament. so don't think we should be so i don't think we should be cracking protest. but cracking down on protest. but i do we need to recognise do think we need to recognise that we have a serious problem. we've seen it with batley we've seen it with the batley grammar teacher who had go grammar teacher who had to go into hiding. we've seen with grammar teacher who had to go into being. we've seen with grammar teacher who had to go into being threatenedn with grammar teacher who had to go into being threatened in with mps being threatened in education and in politics. we are seeing people being threatened by islamist extremists and it is unacceptable in a free society. it's unacceptable in a democracy. it's a challenge to democracy. it's a challenge to democracy. it's a challenge to democracy. it's putting our our constitution in jeopardy. and we shouldn't tolerate it. >> okay, where are you on this ? >> okay, where are you on this? >> okay, where are you on this? >> um, first of all, whenever

you get a message, always question the messenger. and i think that fundamentally it's political posturing because you find a group that creates a lot of tension and you sound the dog whistle and galvanise a base . whistle and galvanise a base. that's what suella braverman is doing. but but in the actual messaging, there are certain points she brings up that are valid but if you're going valid 100. but if you're going to start to talking islamophobia, talk to everything that's an issue. talk to anti—semitic , um, anti lgbtqia anti—semitic, um, anti lgbtqia plus rhetoric, racism, misogyny , plus rhetoric, racism, misogyny, talk to all of it. and the way it is addressed, the way it is executed and the institutions it threatens by the way, it is executed because at the end of the day, we exist in a time which is where i do agree with her, your ability to her, where your ability to question what you do not understand, challenge what you do and pursue recourse do not like and pursue recourse is being stripped from is being stripped away from people. is kind people. so that everyone is kind of and so a of homogenised and so towing a single think it's john single line. i think it's john mann, the independent mann, who's the independent advisor uk government advisor to the uk government on anti—semitism. advisor to the uk government on ant he emitism. advisor to the uk government on ant he claims]. advisor to the uk government on ant he claims that when she was >> he claims that when she was home secretary, she ignored

advice on how to tackle anti—semitism . and he says that anti—semitism. and he says that her inaction in office is part of the problem . of the problem. >> that's why i say always question the messenger, because when you kind of turn the microscope on to one angle of something, that is a 360 degree problem, you're showing that all you're to do is galvanise you're trying to do is galvanise a particular for your own a particular base for your own benefit. had speak and benefit. if she had speak and spoken holistically for the first time, me personally, first time, for me personally, i might said, okay, might actually have said, okay, suella is actually suella braverman is actually acting position that acting in a position that improves as a whole , as improves society as a whole, as opposed just the people opposed to just the people she wishes okay, wishes to appeal to. okay, former prime minister liz truss, she was in america last night at a conservative conference. >> she was mixing with the likes of donald trump and steve bannon. take a look at what she said. >> this is what every human being wants. >> margaret thatcher says when people are free to choose, they choose freedom and it's so true. people want control of their own lives. they don't want the government telling them what to do. don't want these woke do. they don't want these woke policies inflicted on them. but the problem is , the leftist

the problem is, the leftist activists have been very, very assiduous at pushing that agenda, is why we need agenda, which is why we need a conservative movement that challenges that at a grassroots level . level. >> she really emma sort of nailed down the image of a conservative firebrand last night, as i said, mixing with donald trump, nigel farage was there. what did you make of her appearance at cpac, which is a big conservative conference? >> she's been using a lot of those sort of buzzwords like woke economics, deep state. she's she's she's and she's really she's i mean, trying to sell mean, she's trying to sell a book about that, but she, she's really trying to appeal the really trying to appeal to the republican audience to try and draw parallels between what she has attempted to do in the conservative party and what there are some republicans attempting to do in the states , attempting to do in the states, and presenting herself as having been the victim of this enormous backlash because she was trying to put forward , um, real, true to put forward, um, real, true conservative values. now, i think that there is something to be debated about how much of a true philosophical conservative she is. she's certainly a

thatcherite. she's a lib dem, didn't she? um, and so and she's i think she's fairly liberal on, on the social side of things and she's, she's very, um , obviously she's, she's very, um, obviously extremely free market. >> can i read you what she said in her speech? she took aim at a british institution and did say the firm deep state, which we'd call sort of quangos over here. but she said conservatives are now operating in what is a hostile environment. and we essentially need a bigger bazooka in order to be able to deliver. we've got to challenge bazooka in order to be able to deliinstitutionsjot to challenge bazooka in order to be able to deliinstitutions themselves nge bazooka in order to be able to deliinstitutions themselves .ge the institutions themselves. we've to challenge the we've got to challenge the system and we've got to system itself and we've got to be prepared that on. be prepared to take that on. >> conservatives, i'm glad >> as conservatives, i'm glad you bigger bazooka into you put bigger bazooka into context, publication you put bigger bazooka into contex be publication you put bigger bazooka into contex be interestingylication you put bigger bazooka into contex be interesting ,ication you put bigger bazooka into contex be interesting , though. would be interesting, though. >> you know, it's one of >> but you know, it's one of those situations, though, when you look at the in the fullness of time you look at the of time and you look at the totality of how people assess leaders, liz truss looks as someone who pretty much someone who was pretty much incompetent time incompetent based on her time in the what she has the premiership. so what she has to is damage control of to now do is damage control of that she wants to be that image. if she wants to be a viable politician going forward and post trump. we live in a

world where there's no ability to be pragmatic, stick, to kind of be pragmatic, stick, be objective. you've got to pick a run down that a side and really run down that side. that's we're side. and that's what we're seeing with her, where she's also having also she's kind of having a political rebrand where i'm willing say it, say it's to willing to say it, say it's to the stand it. and the extreme and stand in it. and that's we could actually be that's why we could actually be talking about her in this way on the today. talking about her in this way on the i today. talking about her in this way on the i just today. talking about her in this way on the i just wonder if liz truss >> i just wonder if liz truss ultimately will be proven right in of going for growth. in terms of going for growth. i mean, looks that mean, it certainly looks that way, move on. dem way, but we'll move on. lib dem mp christine jardine will join us about the pressure of us to talk about the pressure of the the house of the speaker in the house of commons. also i'd like ask commons. also i'd like to ask where ed davey has been. he where sir ed davey has been. he popped up where sir ed davey has been. he popped up after couple of popped up after a couple of weeks yesterday to speak weeks awol yesterday to speak to our man christopher but our man christopher hope, but all much more after all that and much more after your news tatiana your morning news with tatiana sanchez. >> ben, thank you very much. your top stories from the gp newsroom. isis bride shamima begum has lost an appeal over the removal of her british citizenship . the now 24 year old citizenship. the now 24 year old was the teenager when she left

the uk to to travel syria and joined the so—called islamic state. her citizenship was later revoked on national security grounds . revoked on national security grounds. begum solicitor has now vowed to continue fighting until she gets justice and is safely back home. britain has signed a new deal with the eu's border agency in a further bid to stop small boat crossings. the agreement with frontex will see uk border force cooperate more closely with its european counterparts on intelligence and training . 1716 people have been training. 1716 people have been intercepted crossing the channel so far this year. serial child killer lucy netbeez bid to appeal her convictions will be heard by a court in april. the former nurse was sentenced to 14 whole life orders after she murdered seven babies and attempted to kill six others at attempted to kill six others at a hospital between june 2015 and

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this. got very this. we've got two very different been different views and it's been five since the original five years since the original decision javid, when five years since the original de> i'm sorry, i said earlier. >> what were you guys doing at 15? >> i was not a 157— >> i was not a lot. >> what was the naughtiest 15? >> what was the naughtiest15? >> what was the naughtiest15? >> i was doing my homework. >> i was doing my homework. >> i was doing my homework. >> i wasn't doing my homework. that's probably the naughtiest. >> i used bunk off school and >> i used to bunk off school and play >> i used to bunk off school and play that was play video games. and that was probably, know, the, probably, you know, the, the, the of disobedience. the limit of my disobedience. >> i once bunked off school for

a very short period of time, at the the day, get down the end of the day, to get down to go to economic to london, to go to an economic affairs conference or something like that. >> such a nerd. so >> he's such a nerd. so prediction we're going prediction nerd. so we're going to that. we're to be discussing that. we're also to be reflecting on also going to be reflecting on two years since the invasion of ukraine. course, going ukraine. of course, we're going to a ukrainian to be speaking to a ukrainian voice that one. the big voice on that one. the big question over how much money has been spent on this conflict, is there will the west to there the will in the west to continue its £12 billion of uk taxpayers two years, taxpayers money over two years, which amount of money, which is a vast amount of money, but is a 3% of the nhs budget but it is a 3% of the nhs budget each year, which does put into context the amount of public spending that there is. >> so 6 billion a year. it's a huge amount of money. it could fund many, many things, but in the context of wider public spending, there's there are some very interesting parallels that can be drawn and zelenskyy certainly still wants trump to come over and meet him because of donald. >> donald trump did >> of course, donald trump did say i could end this war in 24 hours. zelenskyy says. absolutely. could not come absolutely. you could not come and meet okay, we'll be and meet me. okay, so we'll be digging into that. >> so much. see you in

>> thank you so much. see you in precisely 23 minutes. for now , precisely 23 minutes. for now, though, you're with britain's newsroom on gb news. talk to you shortly

and the pipes to bring it to our houses. >> you're listening to gb news. >> you're listening to gb news. >> good morning. it's 1140 >> you're listening to gb news. >> good morning. it's1140 with ben and pip on britain's newsroom only on gb news. we've got some emails, pip. i think. >> yeah, we've been talking as well about ukraine aid. it's two years. can you believe , since years. can you believe, since russia invaded ukraine and the uk has been giving billions of pounds over the last two years? jacqueline good morning . instead jacqueline good morning. instead of aiding foreign countries , you of aiding foreign countries, you think maybe we should spend that money on strengthening our own military and having a strong army ? army? >> and ron says, i believe with a heavy heart funding the ukraine must reduced ukraine must be reduced drastically or stopped. we have too many problems here to deal with. of course, the americans at moment primarily at the moment are primarily the republicans. arming and

republicans. they're arming and arming another $60 billion arming about another $60 billion care package this morning . we've care package this morning. we've approved another £12 billion worth. and actually i've sometimes made the point you know where does it end. the bottomless pit of taxpayer money. but what we've seen now in ukraine is because they've not been getting that funding. the weapons, the ammunition they're now losing ground, they're now losing key ground, including a quite a vital town including a quite a vital town in the donbas. so and, you know, we have maybe remember who we have to maybe remember who they're which is they're fighting, which is vladimir putin, who yesterday was pictured flying in a supersonic strategic bomber. >> clearly a reminder of his nuclear capability . liz. so. nuclear capability. liz. so. >> well, we've got a ukrainian mp coming up very shortly, i believe. so we'll have all that and more with them now. >> the former home secretary, suella braverman, has claimed that islamists are now in charge of britain, after the commons speaker admitted that he'd been wrong to ignore protocol over security threats to mps. >> yes, her comments come a day

after sir lindsay hoyle sparked after sir lindsay hoyle sparked a furious backlash over a gaza ceasefire vote by allowing a vote on a labour amendment that the commons speaker now under the commons speaker is now under intense quit , with intense pressure to quit, with almost 70 mps calling for him to go. joining us now is lib dem mp for edinburgh west, christine jardine. good morning christine. thanks for joining jardine. good morning christine. thanks forjoining us. first of thanks for joining us. first of all, do you think sir lindsay should go? >> no. of course i don't. and i don't think he's under intense pressure. 70 mps having signed is not intense pressure. it's pressure. but i think that sir lindsay has apologised to the house. he said he's made a mistake and he is someone who has gone a long way to repairing the reputation of the office of speaker since he became speaker following john bercow. um what happened on wednesday night did not reflect well on parliament, but i think we should remember that , um, a but i think we should remember that, um, a lot of people acted irresponsibly, i believe, by putting party politics first in flaming and already dangerous situation , and that we all need

situation, and that we all need to get a grip, build a consent circus and move forward . circus and move forward. >> i mean, it was an absolute debacle. do you feel embarrassed by it , christine? debacle. do you feel embarrassed by it, christine? because all the while you're there in parliament and thousands of more people are getting killed during this israel gaza war. it was something so utterly serious that you were voting on. >> it was. and one of the things that i find almost unforgivable about this is that there was a petty party political positioning going on. um initially by the snp, who very carefully worded amendments. so that it would, they thought, show the divisions in the labour party both ourselves and i understand the labour party were trying to be consensual in this and wants to speak to the snp about it. and in a situation where we had the opportunity to build a consensus , to send a

build a consensus, to send a message to the israeli government and to hamas that we don't like what is happening, that there needs to be peace , that there needs to be peace, that there needs to be peace, that we need a two state solution. we want them to find a way forward. we indulged in petty political wrangling in the house of commons, which descended into debacle and then to blame sir lindsay hoyle, who who has said he made a mistake. and i accept that apology , but and i accept that apology, but whose motivation in doing it was to try to avoid the sort of debacle that we saw and putting mps, their families and their staff at further risk from the sort of intimidation and threatening behaviour that we've seen already. well, how safe do you feel, christine, as an mp, or do you have to take extra steps to protect yourself and what might those steps be? well, ihave what might those steps be? well, i have to tell you that when minster on wednesday, i don't think anybody felt particularly safe. we all felt that that, um , safe. we all felt that that, um, a lot of the behaviour that is happening is quite threatening .

happening is quite threatening. ihave happening is quite threatening. i have been fortunate in that i have not been subjected to anything like the, you know, my, my constituents are very supportive . i feel, um, but supportive. i feel, um, but i and i have not been subjected to anything like tobias ellwood and his family. the protests at their house, or i know colleagues in scotland as well who've had protests at their offices and their staff, um, have been, um, made to feel very threatened by that. do you agree? sorry, christine, to john payne. >> i just wanted your just very quickly one sentence. do you agree that protests outside parliament, public buildings should be banned ? should be banned? >> no. people have the right to protest , but they have to do it protest, but they have to do it reasonably and they have to not make other people feel threatened. that's the difference. everybody has the right with right to disagree with parliament. has parliament. everybody has the right to protest. everybody has the the freedom of the right to the freedom of their thought. the right to the freedom of theirthought. but the right to the freedom of their thought. but they have to respect others rights well. respect others rights as well. and they have to protest in a

way is respectful. what we way that is respectful. what we saw at parliament went beyond that. um, and it's not acceptable to meet anybody , not acceptable to meet anybody, not just mps, anybody feel threatened for what they believe and what they think. and the islamophobia and the rampant anti—semitism we are seeing emerging in this country at the moment is completely unacceptable. >> christine, just in 15 seconds, literally . where's your seconds, literally. where's your leader, sir? ed davey been hiding? he popped up yesterday after going awol following the post seconds. post office crisis. 15 seconds. why he hiding ? why has he been hiding? >> he's not hiding anywhere . he >> he's not hiding anywhere. he has been. he's been. he's been working his constituents working for his constituents like most mps. he's not hiding anywhere . anywhere. >> all right, christine jardine , >> all right, christine jardine, lib dem mp for edinburgh west. >> thanks ever much for >> thanks ever so much for talking on britain's newsroom >> still to come with the cost of worse than ever, of living worse than ever, should keep funding ukraine's should we keep funding ukraine's war we'll war effort against russia? we'll be that next year with be debating that next year with ben pip britain's ben and pip on britain's newsroom.

radio. >> welcome back. now on the eve of the second anniversary of the war in ukraine, there are growing concerns about the country's ability to continue fighting effectively . fighting effectively. >> the country is desperately short of artillery shells and ammunition and has made little territorial gains over the past yeah >> the uk, though, has remained steadfast in its support, providing more than £7 billion in military aid over the past two years and a £200 million program to provide thousands of extra military drones has also now been agreed. >> britain has also trained 60,000 ukrainian troops, provided 6 million rounds of small arms ammunition and 8000 rounds of tank artillery. >> we're joined by ukrainian member of parliament andre osadchuk. andre, very good to see you this morning. thanks for joining us. where are we at then with with the war two years or almost . should we do you think almost. should we do you think be supporting ukraine? we should

be supporting ukraine? we should be supporting ukraine? we should be supporting you until russia quits or actually we would it be better for us to be encouraging negotiations . on if you want the negotiations. on if you want the west to be collapsed so you can stop supporting ukraine? >> the formula is very simple. good morning . >> the formula is very simple. good morning. i'm >> the formula is very simple. good morning . i'm speaking to good morning. i'm speaking to you from ukraine and parliament. yes tomorrow it will be a second anniversary of big war in in europe . it's not only in europe. it's not only in ukraine, it's the big war in europe and ukrainian parliament didn't stop its work even for one day. uh, even in most difficult times. in the beginning of march, april 2022. and for this two years, we simply confirm several facts, which was not obvious for the western people. first of all, russia is not so scary as 1st may think. it's possible to fight russia successfully . fight russia successfully. secondly the west always

underestimate ukraine. uh no one believed that we are able to fight successfully with russia and, uh , despite huge russian and, uh, despite huge russian military potential , they in fact military potential, they in fact can do nothing with ukraine. they are fighting during, uh, months for small villages or small cities. and in fact , the small cities. and in fact, the frontline is almost standstill for the last almost a year. uh, the other important thing that we went so far in this confrontation between russia and the west , that it looks like the west, that it looks like everyone understood . good that everyone understood. good that the stakes are so high that it's not ukraine which can win or lose this war. yeah we are talking about the future of safety and security, of european union, of europe . and in fact, union, of europe. and in fact, of the three world. >> andre. so it's interrupt. do you feel like the west has betrayed ukraine with the latest, um, engineering on

funding? just very briefly, if you can, please , to win the war, you can, please, to win the war, we need , uh, military equipment we need, uh, military equipment and we need weapons. >> it's very simple . yes. the >> it's very simple. yes. the west was not really prepared for that amount of weapons, which are needed daily on the frontline in for the war, which is equivalent for the first and second world war. but, yes , we second world war. but, yes, we need more and more equipment . if need more and more equipment. if you don't don't want to participate in this fight, you'd better give this , uh, weapons to better give this, uh, weapons to ukrainians very simple. >> okay, andre odenkirk, thank you very much. speaking from the ukrainian parliament. thank you for your time, good for your time, sir. and good luck you well. and your country. >> that is just about it. from britain's newsroom. i think we all need a break. we now all need to take a break. we now cup of tea. i think it's been very lively. but thank you so much company , your much for your company, your contributions, all those views that had coming in, uh, that we had coming in, uh, you're this weekend, aren't you? >> i'm on saturday morning live with tomorrow, replacing with ellie tomorrow, replacing peter to peter andre. sorry to disappoint, but i'm a little disappoint, but i'm off a little bit earlier . bit earlier. >> uh, i'm bringing you breakfast. well, not literally,

but, you know what i mean. thanks ever so much. have a great up next. good great weekend. up next. good afternoon. great weekend. up next. good afternocas great weekend. up next. good afternoc as handsome great weekend. up next. good afternocas handsome as great weekend. up next. good afternoc as handsome as peter >> just as handsome as peter andre . andre. >> looking forward to the singing. >> um , but coming on the show >> um, but coming up on the show today, be today, we're going to be exploring just much the exploring just how much the united taxpayer is on united kingdom taxpayer is on the hook for shamima begum's appeals. is it going to cost us even more money to both fund her appeal to come back in the uk and stop her from coming back and stop her from coming back and suella bravermans controversial claim that islamists, extremists and anti semites are running the country. >> we'll get stuck into that after the weather looks like things are heating up . things are heating up. >> boxt boilers sponsored hours of weather on gb news is . hello of weather on gb news is. hello good morning. welcome to your latest gb news weather update with me, annie from the met office. mix of sunshine and showers through the rest of the day and it is feeling colder than of late. that's as we've got more typical air mass for the of now, after

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gb news. >> good afternoon britain. it's 12 pm. on friday, the 23rd of february. isis bride remains defiant . defiant. >> shamima begum loses her appeal again but says she will not stop fighting until she's back in britain . that's despite back in britain. that's despite her appeals costing the british taxpayer potentially millions. our islamists running britain so braverman says islamists extreme theists and anti—semites are now

in charge of the uk. >> however, the home secretary , >> however, the home secretary, james cleverly, rejects his predecessor's claim, saying that britain is a high functioning democracy who's right and £12 billion. >> that's how much taxpayers have sent to ukraine in aid since russia's invasion. two years ago. that's enough to build 30 new hospitals in britain . but with putin more britain. but with putin more belligerent than ever , can the belligerent than ever, can the west afford not to fund ukraine's campaign? >> it's all about money today, isn't it? it's money to ukraine. money for shamima begum. although i think those two are slightly different moral questions. but, um, no money to suella braverman, no to money suella? um, no. but it does seem that there is a lot of money floating around in these questions, and i suppose at a time when budgets seem pretty strapped all over the place ,

strapped all over the place, it's