get around everyone's going to get around 605 to everyone'5 going to get around 605 to outline their argument about a chosen topic. then we all pile in and the back5tabbing begin5 all pile in and the back5tabbing begins in earnest. all pile in and the back5tabbing begins in earnest . and of begins in earnest. and of course, we want to know your views as well. get in touch by emailing gbview5@gbnew5.com but before we start tearing each other apart, it'5 before we start tearing each other apart, it's your saturday night new5 other apart, it's your saturday night news with tatiana sanchez . night news with tatiana sanchez. >> darren. thank you. your top stories from the gb new5room . stories from the gb new5room. lee anderson has stories from the gb newsroom. lee anderson has been suspended from the tory party. it comes after the former deputy chair said the london mayor had given the capital away and was controlled by islamists. the prime minister was under pressure to react after sadiq khan said his deafening silence was condoning racism . a was condoning racism. a spokesperson for the party's chief whip says the mp was suspended for refusing to apologise for his comments. in a statement , anderson apologise for his comments. in a statement, anderson said i fully accept they had no option but to

suspend the whip in these circumstances. however i'll continue to support the government's efforts to call out extremism in all its forms, be that anti—semitism or islamophobia , to the uk has islamophobia, to the uk has reaffirmed its commitment to ukraine as the country's war with russia enters its third yean with russia enters its third year, £245 million has been promised to boost critical stockpiles of ammunition. the defence secretary says he's proud that since the invasion, the uk has trained 60,000 ukrainian troops, adding that no one has done as much for kyiv than the uk. grant shapps says the west will keep going for as long as takes to fight long as it takes to fight russian aggression . russian aggression. >> a package which >> in this is a package which will help to provide some of the artillery that's required , artillery that's required, particularly on the front line where has really boosted where russia has really boosted their production levels. so it's massively important now. but we stop putin. it's going to cost us more. if he came further, not least, of course, being terrible for our ukrainian friends , but

for our ukrainian friends, but it would also be disastrous for the rest of the west . the rest of the west. >> meanwhile, the king and queen have praised ukrainians for their true valour. king charles also says he's greatly encouraged by the efforts of the uk and its allies in supporting kyiv at a time of suffering in need of . although he pippa need of. although he pippa catterall show me the monarch was paying his respects at a ukrainian cathedral in central london, where crowds later gathered to show their support for the country and its people. commemorations began with an interfaith prayer and similar services have been held across the uk . the body of russian the uk. the body of russian opposition leader alexei navalny has been handed over to his mother . he unexpectedly has been handed over to his mother. he unexpectedly died in prison nine days ago. his death certificate suggested it was of natural causes. his spokeswoman says it's still not clear whether authorities will allow relatives to hold a funeral, the

way his family once and the way he deserves , and junior doctors he deserves, and junior doctors in england have walked out for the 10th time since march last year over a pay dispute. the british medical association has asked for a 30% pay rise. the government calls that unreasonable. more than 1.3 million appointments and operations have already been cancelled or rescheduled since industrial action began . for the industrial action began. for the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen . or the qr code on your screen. or you can go to gb news. com slash alerts. now it's back to the saturday five. >> it's saturday night and you're with the saturday five. i'm darren grimes and things are about to get lively . let's crack about to get lively. let's crack on with tonight's first debate, folks. a5 on with tonight's first debate, folks. as you well know, were teetering on the edge of a world that's more dangerous than a viper's nest . that's more dangerous than a viper's nest. but we're staring down i'd call the axis of down what i'd call the axis of evil. china, iran. a trio

evil. russia china, iran. a trio hell bent on erasing the west from the map, kicking things off today, we've got a gb news world exclusive. none other than former prime minister boris johnson stepping up to bat for ukraine. two years on from russia's invasion , he's laying russia's invasion, he's laying it all out, making a solid case for why british taxpayers should keep digging deep to support ukraine in their david versus goliath battle against bad vlad. it's a high stakes game and bofisis it's a high stakes game and boris is playing for keeps. let's have a listen . let's have a listen. >> hi pigs. i'm here on the second anniversary of vladimir putin's barbaric invasion of ukraine. i'm here in kyiv. where in spite of everything, those gallant , heroic in spite of everything, those gallant, heroic ukrainians are fighting on and i've got absolutely no doubt that they are going to win. absolutely no doubt that they are going to win . and i think are going to win. and i think that with the support of the west, provided we do the right thing, give them the right support militarily, politically

and economically , the courage of and economically, the courage of ukrainians are there natural determination to fight for their homeland? will prevail. but i'm very happy to be joined, uh, talking to gb news by, uh, a friend who i've worked with for years , a distinguished former years, a distinguished former ambassador from the foreign minister of ukraine, from our ambassador to london, vadim prystaiko. uh vadim, how do you see things? two years after this evil invasion? are you still confident your country is gonna win ? win? >> thank you. boris, you you've seen yourself that unbelievably so. but ukraine is so the feel that it's not just pre—incarnate to kyiv. it's to the. it's quite warm ukip . but but it the whole warm ukip. but but it the whole place . maybe because people like place. maybe because people like you , so many foreign dignitaries you, so many foreign dignitaries came and they're coming. not empty handed , they coming with empty handed, they coming with with ideas how to get back the ukraine to bring bring it up to the agenda of the world. how to

bnng the agenda of the world. how to bring the weapons , how to ramp bring the weapons, how to ramp up , how get up sanctions, how to get russians before john russians money before john caudwell around the globe to help to regain territory help ukraine to regain territory , regained hope. >> and if you got a message to gb news news viewers about what you think the uk, uh, should be doing in particular is the one thing you'd, you'd pick out . thing you'd, you'd pick out. >> i believe that's my, uh , >> i believe that's my, uh, years in the uk where the political my career because i was happy to be london, which is great. i mean by itself because of this great support of the people there and the government, people there and the government, people arranges everywhere. i felt it. i've seen ukrainian flags. i remember everything we've been done in the parliament wearing, just talking to soldier or person on the to the soldier or person on the street who was inviting the ukrainian refugees. of this ukrainian refugees. all of this mounts out to the what we felt in in uk, and it was actually be translated all over the europe . translated all over the europe. you were pushing the europeans and sometimes our friends over the pond to do more and more. look at where we are now supporting by german, supporting by france, supported by all. i

wouldn't be there without the uk's initial push. thank you varne. >> don't forget folks, everything is, uh, look tough for ukraine and have looked tough for the last two years. the simple are that they the simple facts are that they kicked vladimir putin's armies out of more half of the out of more than half of the territory that they originally occupied about 315,000 russian troops have been killed or injured , a ratio probably seven injured, a ratio probably seven to one. uh, when you compare it with what the ukrainian armed forces have suffered , they've forces have suffered, they've taken out thousands and thousands of russian tanks, 40% of the russia's black sea fleet. and yet ukraine's exports are now back up to pre—war levels . now back up to pre—war levels. so i've got absolutely no doubt that with the right support from the west , ukraine can that with the right support from the west, ukraine can win and it's vital in the months ahead that we give them their support. this is an unconventional report . uh, but here we are in kyiv on the eighth. the sad second anniversary, uh, with a

ukrainian population that, in my view, is absolutely determined still to win . and the galloway . still to win. and the galloway. >> well, there we are , world >> well, there we are, world exclusive from bowser benjamin. i mean, coming to you first. we'd heard there about the pivotal role. that's how it was described that boris johnson played in calling up europe allies and saying, look, come on, we need to get behind the ukrainians . they can win this. ukrainians. they can win this. two years on, how do you actually manage to keep the support of a british public? that's saying, hang on a minute, i'm struggling here at home, never mind some far off land that, uh, doesn't really seem to be pushing back the russians all that much. >> well, look, boris johnson is absolutely right on on the principle that we should be supporting ukraine as much as we can. and he's sort of a hero figure that country because figure in that country because they've recognised that level of support. i think it's about £12 billion the crimea billion since the crimea invasion , and including what invasion, and including what we've pledged that the uk we've yet pledged that the uk has to help ukraine.

has put forward to help ukraine. so there's no doubt that this is a money. think a huge amount of money. i think the announced the government's just announced another £245 million, but i think you have to learn from history. you know, there are still that can still people around that can remember the mistakes that happen you let a dictator, happen when you let a dictator, someone who doesn't care for international rules or an order based system, who wants to take out countries. we know out other countries. we know what happened in the second out other countries. we know what iwaraned in the second out other countries. we know what iwar and in the second out other countries. we know what iwar and in the second out other countries. we know what iwar and i think second out other countries. we know what iwar and i think we ond out other countries. we know what iwar and i think we should world war and i think we should be acutely aware that that is a series of events that could happenif series of events that could happen if britain doesn't stand up vladimir so on up to vladimir putin. so good on bofis boris johnson. >> leo at the start >> so ben leo at the start there, i said, look, we've got this right . we've this axis of evil right. we've got this, we've got russia, we've got china, we've got iran. they're all ready to chomp away at the west . and this is bad for at the west. and this is bad for ladd's first move. surely you must be with boris johnson . must be with boris johnson. >> well, first of all, i want to know the absolute truth as to these rumours and claims , which these rumours and claims, which initially came from the ukrainian side some years ago, before tucker carlson even mentioned it in his interview with vladimir um, that

with vladimir putin. um, that bofis with vladimir putin. um, that boris johnson scuppered a peace dealin boris johnson scuppered a peace deal in 2022. boris denies it. of course, putin says he did . of course, putin says he did. but as i said, the ukrainians some years ago even suggested he did as well . so if that's the did as well. so if that's the case, i want to know why that happened. and boris is now begging taxpayers for begging british taxpayers for even more i agree that even more money. i agree that ukraine needs needs the money. however, when's it going to end? >> and is it a bottomless pit of taxpayer money? >> especially when people this side of the pond are country brits ? they're struggling to brits? they're struggling to heat their homes , to even get heat their homes, to even get houses to feed themselves ? when houses to feed themselves? when doesit houses to feed themselves? when does it end? >> i'll be when does it end? and i guess watching that you'll be clamouring to get boris johnson back in the conservative party >> look, i will not clamour for bofis >> look, i will not clamour for boris johnson to be getting back anywhere conservative anywhere near the conservative party leadership, despite the fact what he's with fact i think what he's done with ukraine and his support of ukraine and his whole support of that cause probably of that cause is probably one of the things did the best things that he did dunng the best things that he did during but during his premiership. but i think a very think ben actually raises a very interesting this

interesting point. and this question about where does it end will become more of a feature as we get closer, especially to the us election. and if the republicans and trump win the us election , that question of where election, that question of where doesit election, that question of where does it end is going to be a question that we're all going to have lot more seriously? >> absolutely . and mean, >> absolutely. and i mean, belinda, the president trump turning saying, look , turning round and saying, look, europe been its europe hasn't been pulling its weight when it comes to spending 2% gdp on nato defence 2% of gdp on nato defence spending . when do you actually spending. when do you actually think that they will wake up and become alive to that fact? are they actually taking the mickey out of those of us that are doing that? >> they should have woken up when putin invaded georgia back in 2008, when he invaded crimea. you know, these were massive alarm bells. the eu and the whole of europe should have woken up then and prepared for the next invasion, even though putin promised not to invade another country after georgia, there he went again and took on ukraine. and whatever people feel about ukraine, the fact of

the matter is putin chose to invade a peaceful european country . he chose to kill its country. he chose to kill its men and women. that is on him. and europe needed to respond because, as benjamin said, if you let if you appease bullies, they will just take advantage and carry on. but i would say i do agree with ben leo in terms of we have to be very respectful to the british taxpayer payer. now, we are not a bottomless pit. we do need to know where there's an end do need there's an end game. we do need to the money's being to know where the money's being spent. i say we use foreign aid to know where the money's being 5p stead say we use foreign aid to know where the money's being 5p stead of! we use foreign aid to know where the money's being 5p stead of keesze foreign aid to know where the money's being 5p stead of keep using eign aid to know where the money's being 5p stead of keep using moreiid to know where the money's being 5p stead of keep using more and in stead of keep using more and more money, more british taxpayers money, cut aid directed to cut foreign aid and directed to ukraine of beating the ukraine instead of beating the backs of the brits. so much. >> and i actually wonder, does anyone about anyone on the panel worry about giving up over so much of our own military might, in giving up over so much of our own military might , in the giving up over so much of our own military might, in the sense of we're giving away a lot of weaponry and ammunition, and we keep being told that actually, as far as the royal navy is concerned, i might as concerned, you know, i might as well going out with a rubber well be going out with a rubber dinghy even handle the >> we can't even handle the houthi rebels in the red sea. we've got aircraft carriers still in portsmouth still languishing in portsmouth yet we're sending and

yet we're sending millions and millions to ukraine. millions of pounds to ukraine. and the example of and actually, in the example of the united states, who are arming moment, arming and arming at the moment, the especially , the republicans especially, about sending another $60 billion to ukraine. the majority of that money actually stays in the us defence the us. it goes to us defence firms weapons , shells, firms to make weapons, shells, ammunition. so it's good for their economy. you know , it their economy. so, you know, it begs the question, are they briefly, benjamin, clearly there's a question about how much money you can spend because that's the real world. >> is very good value for >> but it is very good value for money. helped money. you know, we've helped to train soldiers in ukraine train 60,000 soldiers in ukraine to fight for themselves, for their country . their country. >> that's been amazing. >> that's been amazing. >> as johnson stated, >> and as boris johnson stated, 315,000 russian troops have been injured or killed seven times. the number of ukrainians. so we, the west and ukraine are winning this war. and the best way to stop having to fund it is to defeat russia in this battle. >> how long is that going to take at all? how long is that going to take? >> going to lot >> it's going to take a lot longer. going take longer. it's going to take years. the that years. and the fact is that i don't think they are weakened.

>> they've just taken a key town in the money in donbas, despite all the money we've taken we've sent them. they've taken a massive in donbas. and massive key town in donbas. and that because massive key town in donbas. and that has because massive key town in donbas. and that has been because massive key town in donbas. and that has been withholdinge the us has been withholding the funding been funding and ukraine has been weakened why boris johnson is >> that's why boris johnson is right should support right that we should support okay, what the okay, we'll find out what the viewers shortly . viewers think shortly. >> but next, it's another >> but up next, it's another darling the conservative darling of the conservative party. amankona . away party. it's albie amankona. away you go. >> i'll be well. thank you for that darren. uh, that description, darren. uh, tory mp, former tory mp lee anderson had the tory whip taken away from him today because of comments he made about sadiq khan on gb earlier on this khan on gb news earlier on this week. let's take a listen. >> i don't actually believe that these islamists have got control of our country , but what i do of our country, but what i do believe is they've got control of khan they've got control of khan and they've got control of khan and they've got control of london and they've got control of storm as well. and we've seen shocking scenes we've seen the shocking scenes played parliament, just a played out in parliament, just a few nights back, where starmer crumbled . he put on the crumbled. he put pressure on the speaker to alter the rules, if you like, for the nature of the debate ultimate voting . debate and the ultimate voting. and this this is a result of weak leadership . weak leadership. >> now , now, how can islamists

>> now, now, how can islamists both have control of london? but also we see that london is too woke to function with pride flags on crossings, starting police horses and train lines called suffragette and windrush look mistakes happen on live tv. we all know i've made them, but i was always taught to apologise for my mistakes and that's why i think lee anderson needs to apologise to sadiq khan for saying and inferring that he was mate with islamists. i don't think lee would have said that if wasn't not a muslim. if sadiq wasn't not a muslim. and the problem is we do actually have quite a serious problem islamist extremism actually have quite a serious pr

that the right are racist when actually there is a very serious problem with islamism. and unfortunately , lee's comments unfortunately, lee's comments have taken away from that . so have taken away from that. so lee, apologise to sadiq lee, please apologise to sadiq khan and think carefully before you speak . so khan and think carefully before you speak. so we're going to read a comment from lee anderson earlier on today, from a statement that he made earlier on following a call with the chief whip. i understand the difficult position that i put both the prime minister in with regards my comments. i both the prime minister in with regards my comments . i fully regards to my comments. i fully accept that they had no option but suspend whip in these but to suspend the whip in these circumstances . however, but to suspend the whip in these circumstances. however, i but to suspend the whip in these circumstances . however, i will circumstances. however, i will continue support the continue to support the government's call out government's efforts to call out extremism in its forms, be extremism in all its forms, be that anti—semitism or islamophobia . so so, ben leon, islamophobia. so so, ben leon, do you think lee should apologise? >> not if he believes what he says. no, i don't think he should ever apologise to the mob. but you mentioned that he wouldn't sadiq wouldn't have said that if sadiq khan wasn't a muslim. actual khan wasn't a muslim. in actual fact, went on to say keir fact, he went on to say keir starmer was also so, uh, uh, guilty of the same accusation as well. he said sadiq khan keir

starmer his mates with islamists. >> yeah, he said khan . >> yeah, he said khan. >> yeah, he said khan. >> and they later said starmer was was mates. >> and i don't think there's anything he said. >> think em- said. >> think very sloppy >> i think it was very sloppy and i agree with you what you said. the mob said. it gives, it gives the mob and left ammunition to, and the left easy ammunition to, um, take down the right's arguments, especially these arguments, especially these arguments and the, the genuine concerns about the state of play , especially in london. the scenes we've not just scenes we've seen, not just recently palestinian recently with the palestinian marches, but said, marches, but as you said, terrorist attacks. westminster 2017, london bridge, twice. um, batley grammar school kids hoarded into village halls because they're scuffs of quran. but in actual fact, i haven't got time for any of this anymore. um, i just think the state of politics at the moment is so low grade and is so pathetic. most of these politicians and i include lee in this actually wouldn't get a job in any decent private sector company. they behave like a bunch of school kids and actually it's an embarrassment on this country we're on this country that we're deaung on this country that we're dealing who dealing with these people who are, you know, they're in power and dictating the state of play

in this country. just think and dictating the state of play in ta 5 country. just think and dictating the state of play in ta complete just think and dictating the state of play in ta complete mess. think and dictating the state of play in ta complete mess. i|ink the it's a complete mess. i hate the vibe and the level of toxicity and i'm looking forward to some real renewal of state real renewal of the state of play. once labour get in. just so the tories or someone else maybe reform can rise from the ashes and find some proper benjamin butterworth renewal of the state of play. >> when labour get in, can keir starmer do it? i don't know what that means, what do think that means, but what i do think is that lee anderson is telling you something the tories , you something about the tories, that you naive to ignore that you are naive to ignore this isn't just man who has this isn't just a man who has made so many dodgy and unacceptable comments. >> for reference, he was kicked out of the labour party, blocked from council candidate from being a council candidate years ago for being sexist. now he's been suspended from the tories for being islamophobic when he eventually joins the reform party . i'm sure there'll reform party. i'm sure there'll be something else that he does. that's stupid. so ben is right that capable real that he's not capable of a real job, someone, job, but this is someone, despite profound despite his profound incompetence and his offensive views, that the tory party and the prime minister saw fit to make vice chair just the prime minister saw fit to make vice chairjust a few

the prime minister saw fit to make vice chair just a few weeks ago, he's shown us who he is. he's a bigot and he's weak as a politician and he shames the tory party. are you calling beunda tory party. are you calling belinda a bigot? >> then you just said he's welcome in reform. >> well , i'm welcome in reform. >> well, i'm nigel farage. earlier today has called on lee anderson to defect to reform. i don't think he'll be back. >> there's no way richard tice should have lee anderson. come on, belinda, got right of on, belinda, you've got right of reply there. >> i think >> well, i do, i think i slightly agree with with ben lee here. i the tories here. i think the tories infighting squabbling infighting and squabbling between the one nation tories and sort of common man on and the sort of common man on the street, tories common sense talk at a pub type chat which i think lee anderson is, and i do think lee anderson is, and i do think he votes his comments. i've just started talking so i can finish when he was, when he was saying what he said. yes, the language was sloppy and i do believe mp you have a believe as an mp you have a responsibility not to use inflammatory language . and just inflammatory language. and just because someone is a muslim does not mean that they have islamist mates. but i do think he is reflecting concern by people that there are many in the

labour party, not just sadiq up and down, who are soft on islamism to not call out the horrific from the river to the sea. yeah, um, projection onto our democratic mother of all parliament tower. but the hateful hamas protest. but let me just quickly finish because it's important, you know , sadiq it's important, you know, sadiq khanis it's important, you know, sadiq khan is not innocent. he was recorded as saying that moderate muslims were uncle toms. now, thatis muslims were uncle toms. now, that is vastly a huge slur against modern tellee on iranian telly . so there is people have a telly. so there is people have a right to be concerned what he believes. if he said stuff like that in the past and also i feel that in the past and also i feel that there are many people in politics, including the tory party, who are so cowardly they just to to stand up the just refuse to to stand up the islamist modern mob, whether they're so they're tory or labour. so i think lee anderson is right to not apologise if he doesn't believe the apology, because believe in the apology, because there's it's rare as there's very rare. it's rare as hen's teeth. you get men of and women political conviction how. >> now. >> lee anderson e lee anderson is >> but lee anderson is a is a pathetic politician. this is bloke. >> no, he's not here to defend himself on an immigration bill.

>> said that he changed the lobby. he was walking through in a vote in parliament because he was labour mp5. was being mocked by labour mp5. nothing a weak nothing what kind of a weak politician of politician lets the mockery of politics from another party change how they vote? >> you seem more angry about that than all horrific that than all the horrific things that have been happening in party from in the labour party from a prospective mp spreading conspiracy theories about jews from all the islamists were kicked out of the party and the oh delayed. >> but but after two days, not straight away , not straight at straight away, not straight at grammar school, as has ben has set out there where was the moral indignation when all those kids were killed at the manchester bombing time manchester arena bombing time and again? and time again? >> think you people are >> i think you people are disgusting. i think actually you have enabled this complete sewer to devolve around our country and look what you've done to london tower bridge, right now is a complete basket case. it can't actually function. and that sounded sadiq khan you. it's utterly disgraceful and dangerous for you to try and tie the labour party. >> oh, yes. but actually there's

no need to do that. banishing you should apologise. >> i think actually, london's jews deserve than what jews deserve better than what you've given them. and. and that man that backed on two man that you've backed on two occasions the form sadiq occasions in the form of sadiq khan, that khan, i think that is islamophobic , saying that islamophobic, saying that because that he because he's a muslim, that he has problem with jews. has a problem with jews. >> he did very >> i tell you what, he did very clearly that he hasn't. >> i tell you what, he did very cle.as' that he hasn't. >> i tell you what, he did very cle.as police|at he hasn't. >> i tell you what, he did very cle.as police ande hasn't. >> i tell you what, he did very cle.as police and crimei't. >> as police and crime commissioner , he absolutely commissioner, he has absolutely not stood up for britain's jewish benjamin. >> he allowed it to be projected onto our parliament. >> know frightened >> do you know how frightened jews is the jews are in london? he is the mayor. he's allowed two tier policing. you know what? and given to those given a soft touch to those hammer supporting protests ten days you as the tories ending it there still to come tonight though. >> good news for real men everywhere . belinda deluise is everywhere. belinda deluise is backing bod. and backing the dad bod. and speaking of dad bods , liz truss speaking of dad bods, liz truss is supporting donald trump . is supporting donald trump. we'll see what benjamin makes of that. we'll see what benjamin makes of that . but next it's leo. that. but next it's ben leo. he'll be discussing shamima begum it's right begum and whether it's right that continues to receive that she continues to receive huge amounts of legal aid , i'm huge amounts of legal aid, i'm sure ben will be up for personally funding shamima

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>> you're listening to gb news radio . radio. >> welcome back to the saturday five. a5 >> welcome back to the saturday five. as always. cheers very much for your company and your emails. has written in emails. gary has written in about ukraine and boris johnson. gary says funding ukraine through controversial aid charities is only ever going to prolong the conflict with russia. but cath has an opposing view and cath says i don't get why people moan about giving money to ukraine. we should all just be grateful that we're here in britain, live in a peaceful country. so that's two sides of opinion , not so much anymore. opinion, not so much anymore. >> well , up next it's opinion, not so much anymore. >> well, up next it's ben. >> well, up next it's ben. >> ben , what have you got for us >> ben, what have you got for us tonight? right. this is going to be short and sweet. >> the nation breathed the sigh of yesterday shamima of relief yesterday as shamima begum's return to

begum's court bid to return to the uk after having her citizenship stripped was dismissed . thank god for the dismissed. thank god for the court of appeal judges. dismissed. thank god for the court of appeal judges . well court of appeal judges. well done. as a reminder, shamima begum, she was the isis bride. she ran off to syria in 2015 with her schoolmates, decided to join the terrorist death cult who, if you don't remember, burn people alive in cages. stoned women and children behaved in the most barbaric way. shamima had her citizenship stripped. she's now languishing in a syrian refugee camp. but my point is, she's now going to go with her golden goose. lawyers to the supreme court to try and overturn that court of appeal decision bid yesterday . and you decision bid yesterday. and you know who's going to pay for it? me and you, up to £5 million worth of legal aid is going to be reaches the be spent if it reaches the supreme and even more supreme court. and even more if it the european courts it goes to the european courts as well. i say she is a british traitor . she's no as well. i say she is a british traitor. she's no longer technically british. we should not be paying a penny more of her legal aid when there's so much money needed and better causes the uk, causes here. back in the uk, benjamin , do you agree we should

benjamin, do you agree we should rid our hands of shamima? no more she to more legal aid. she needs to stay camp stay in that refugee camp in syria just. yeah spend the syria and just. yeah spend the rest of her days there. >> don't because although >> no i don't because although the is high in terms of the price is high in terms of the price is high in terms of the cost of legal aid for a case going on this long, that is the price of a democracy. and a functioning justice system to which we should all want to belong . she's had justice belong. she's had justice because you don't you because you don't know if you might up a situation might end up in a situation where you can't afford to fight a where there is a human a case where there is a human rights and rights question, i'm sorry. and the it's not the truth is that it's not a judgement say that what she the truth is that it's not a judgdonelt say that what she the truth is that it's not a judgdone is say that what she the truth is that it's not a judgdone is right.that what she the truth is that it's not a judgdone is right. what/hat she the truth is that it's not a judgdone is right. what she'she has done is right. what she's doneis has done is right. what she's done is very, very but done is very, very wrong. but i think is inherent think there is an inherent racism in the treatment of begum. >> well , for joining a terrorist >> well, for joining a terrorist group, you absolute joke. >> the only way they can legally attempt to justify taking away her british citizenship is because one of her parents was from bangladesh . from bangladesh. >> is illegal and they don't. >> it is illegal and they don't. they don't want her either, to leave somebody stateless. >> responsibility , >> she is our responsibility, our problem and should be in a british prison. if she was swedish or german or american ,

swedish or german or american, and the same situation was happening , would you call that happening, would you call that racist and that you wouldn't even case? even hear about the case? >> just because it's bangladesh? >> it wouldn't happen because there's way try and there's no way we would try and send because they send them to sweden because they wouldn't send them to sweden because they wotsorry. this is utter >> sorry. this is this is utter rubbish. white male , rubbish. jack letts, white male, got citizenship got his british citizenship revoked because he joined isis before all of this. so why male happened to him? what are you talking about? it's about racism. every single person who joined isis who has dual citizenship, should have it absolutely stripped weight, have dual well, let and it is based on a claim about her parents birthplace for which she has no connection , which obviously the connection, which obviously the which obviously the courts think is enough. british is fair enough. british citizenship is precious. it is a privilege. it is a privilege , a privilege. it is a privilege, a privilege. it is a privilege, a privilege. let me finish. if you want dilute it by having a want to dilute it by having a dual citizenship and have allegiances to other country have the privilege of working, voting, living in another country, is also a cost . country, there is also a cost. can i the cost is if you can i remind? the cost is if you commit crime on your commit serious crime on your bike , goodbye, you the bike, goodbye, you lose the privilege british citizens.

privilege of british citizens. >> i remind of the >> can i remind you some of the things said things shamima begum has said since she escaped so she calls it isis. she said that the manchester arena bombing was , manchester arena bombing was, quote, justified because of the way west had behaved the way the west had behaved in the middle she a bbc middle east. she told a bbc reporter um , that she was reporter um, that she was attracted to join isis initially because beheading videos, and because of beheading videos, and then she also said that she was over the death of her three children. does that like children. does that sound like someone you want walking the streets britain? no someone you want walking the strethose britain? no someone you want walking the strethose britthere's» someone you want walking the strethose britthere's no question >> those are there's no question about whether what she did right or i'm the only or wrong, and i'm the only person on this program who's had an shamima an interview with shamima begum where regrets the where she said she regrets the things in the things that she said in the past. she past. she did. of course she did. this is question for did. this is a question for a justice system. it's not about whether did right justice system. it's not about wiwrong did right justice system. it's not about wiwrong . did right justice system. it's not about wiwrong . it's did right justice system. it's not about wiwrong . it's aboutd right justice system. it's not about wiwrong . it's about the right justice system. it's not about wiwrong . it's about the fact|ht or wrong. it's about the fact that she right to british citizenship. there is no justice because >> there is no justice because i tell you why there's no justice. anyone commits on anyone who commits a crime on foreign soil will not get the justice that those poor yazidi women deserve . they they deserve women deserve. they they deserve their day in court with her in syria, because the laws in this land will give her a slap on the

wrist and let her out in six months. so stop talking about justice. will no justice. there will be no justice. there will be no justice for the yazidi raped girls the murdered yazidi girls and the murdered yazidi boys. girls and the murdered yazidi boys . for shamima this boys. for shamima begum in this country the other week, you were talking about why you oppose the death and yet you're death penalty, and yet you're effectively accepting it for her. here ”1m her. here . she may well a >> here. she may well be a penalty here. that's a reach because there's serious risk because there's a serious risk that the place where she is in northern syria, that she'll be killed she's fine. northern syria, that she'll be killdo she's fine. northern syria, that she'll be killdo you she's fine. northern syria, that she'll be killdo you really; fine. northern syria, that she'll be killdo you really think that >> do you really think that would an acceptable form of justice? >> she shouldn't have sound like isis oh god . isis when you say, oh my god. benjamin, join isis, she should reap what she sows. >> i'm glad that her citizenship has been revoked, quite frankly. and i speak as a person in a similar situation to shamima begum. i've got a claim to foreign citizenship. don't foreign citizenship. i don't have problem with people have any problem with people like never being like shamima begum. never being let this country. let in this country. >> do know what my biggest >> do you know what my biggest concern about? concern is about? >> member >> to say you were a member of isis. actually, you isis. there actually, do you know i have? no, i have know what i have? no, i have absolutely that absolutely no confidence that actually justice. won't actually british justice. won't you just stand up and say this person time and again said

person has time and again said that she does not regret everything that has happened, and she'll be out on the streets in a couple of weeks if she gets. find really gets. i also find it really rich, the that rich, by the way, that the labour turn around labour party turn around and say, oh, was 15. they say, oh, she was only 15. they want give year the want to give 16 year olds the voice brianna's killers were voice and brianna's killers were only 15 and they got sent away, quite rightly, line how quite rightly, for line is how many shamima begum many more should shamima begum are streets of are walking the streets of england well there we england right now? well there we are. ahead though. we've are. still ahead though. we've got talking got belinda de lucy talking about dad what more could about dad bods. what more could you want from a you possibly want from a saturday and next we've saturday night and next we've got truss, who's been got liz truss, who's been getting mixed reviews her getting mixed reviews for her foray into us politics. we'll find out what benjamin thinks. you're with the saturday five live on gb news as

week out. look, you're listening to gb news radio . to gb news radio. >> welcome back to the saturday five. >> your emails are flying in as usual on shamima begum. lots of views . judith has written in.

views. judith has written in. good evening, judith , she says. good evening, judith, she says. some will say shamima has been used as a scapegoat, but if we let her back it will set a precedent for other terrorists or would be terrorists to claim the sympathy vote and jane says shamima begum was groomed as a child. we need to be more sensitive. thank you, benjamin, for writing in as jane . for writing in as jane. >> now next up, it's time for the next debate. >> up next, it is indeed benjamin, and we're going to hear what the wokeist person in britain has to say for himself. well we're talking about the cunous well we're talking about the curious case of liz truss. >> now, if you were on holiday in the autumn of 2022, let me just tell you that she was prime minister uh, for a few days. she'd always been a strong supporter of internship, so i just didn't think that we'd have an for office an internship for the office of prime for good prime minister. but for good you, liz. i hate when people mock now she's mock her for that. but now she's gone from being commons clown gone from being a commons clown to being a dangerous conspiracy theorist . the other day she was theorist. the other day she was speaking at very right wing

speaking at a very right wing conference in the us, where she claimed that we have a deep state controlling britain and an elite that is not letting the people be heard. this is conspiracy stuff. she then sat next to steve bannon, the guy that mastered minded trump, and while he sat there and praised tommy robinson , the convict, tommy robinson, the convict, tommy robinson, the convict, tommy robinson, the convict, tommy robinson , who many would tommy robinson, who many would call an outright racist , she call an outright racist, she he's called tommy robinson a hero. and liz truss , our former hero. and liz truss, our former prime minister, nodded along. and then to make it even worse, she said that we should have donald trump back as us president , something that two uk president, something that two uk ambassadors to the us have said would be incredibly dangerous for west , something liz for the west, something liz truss claims to care about . so truss claims to care about. so look, you know, i get that, you know, the only thing you're known for is crashing the economy and being to economy and barely being able to get through a three minute local radio probably get through a three minute local radio to probably get through a three minute local radio to be probably get through a three minute local radio to be knownably get through a three minute local radio to be known for! would want to be known for something that. but something other than that. but i don't being a wacko don't think being a wacko conspiracy it? so conspiracy theorist is it? so here's pitch . if we've got here's my pitch. if we've got a second prime minister watching the tonight rishi sunak,

the show tonight in rishi sunak, i you, rishi, it's time i say to you, rishi, it's time to whip liz to remove the whip from liz truss and show your leadership. now we've actually got the head of the liz truss fan society with us on the programme tonight. ben leo, thanks for joining me. what do you think? do you think that she's undermining britain? how is she undermining britain? how is she undermining britain? how is she undermining britain with this conspiratorial . conspiratorial. >> why. sorry. why is saying the deep state conspiratorial over here we just call them quangos. the civil service whitehall being that's what the civil service whitehall beirdeep that's what the civil service whitehall beirdeep state that's what the civil service whitehall beirdeep state means. '5 what the deep state means. >> don't think it is. she's >> i don't think it is. she's trying to that there are trying to say that there are illicit out there illicit people out there controlling country. that controlling the country. that aren't doing what the people want. >> nadine dorries wrote want. >> naitne dorries wrote want. >> nait ne her dorries wrote want. >> nait ne her book orries wrote want. >> nait ne her book thes wrote want. >> nait ne her book the plot. te about it in her book the plot. she was a former conservative. she's still an mp. no, she's no, no, nadine dorries wrote about it she's not peer it in her book. she's not a peer ehhen it in her book. she's not a peer either. of course not. but either. no, of course not. but to say, to say deep state is to say, to say the deep state is just it's not conspirators, it's just it's not conspirators, it's just talking about she was talking about financial talking about the financial times and the economist being part of some deep state, which was against her. >> sorry. the financial times is some, global, some some, some global, some

globalist publication linked to, unked globalist publication linked to, linked to the imf linked to the world a globalist you do world bank, a globalist you do know that she's an internationalist, classical liberal. she's a fan of adam smith , milton friedman and hayek. >> i've had this discussion with globalists. >> i've had this discussion with you on twitter before. globalist does mean open markets does not mean open markets trading world. trading around the world. global. trading around the world. glowhat globalist mean if >> what does globalist mean if not mass migration? not for mass migration? >> open borders, >> mass migration, open borders, pushing agendas such as the trans gender ideology ? >> read 7- >> read a 7 >> read a politics that is not what zero the agenda. what zero the green agenda. >> you need to read the politics, but that is not. >> is not what globalist means. >> also f.- f. -a hypocrite. >> she rubbish as her job >> she was rubbish at as her job at minister. she's at prime minister. now she's looking for any. >> judge her on her >> you can't judge her on her performance. any excuse to come up performance. any excuse to come up to why such up with as to why she was such a failure instead of just taking the bullet like kwarteng the bullet like kwasi kwarteng and look , we made some mistakes. >> forgive me . now i'm going to >> forgive me. now i'm going to stand down from parliament. that's what liz should lose the whip ? look, think the whip right? look, i think the prime minister has a difficult decision to make when comes decision to make when it comes to liz truss. she's just causing problems prime minister. problems for the prime minister. we after week week, quite

we after week after week, quite frankly, liz truss, if she was given a chance, would have been the prime minister the best prime minister to save your the best prime minister to save youand why you're taxing. >> and that's why you're taxing. that's why in problem that's why you're in the problem . you're albi. party is .you're in albi. your party is about to get obliterated because the be that party the powers that be in that party took her down. now you're stuck with rishi sunak and a party full of lib dems in the skies. and members. >> a lib dem. do >> truss was a lib dem. you do know that? >> truss was a lib dem. you do knoyeah,t? >> truss was a lib dem. you do knoyeah, but now she's proper >> yeah, but now she's a proper conservative. lightweight. >> was a student. >> she was a student. >> she was a student. >> even reform >> belinda. even reform uk has said doesn't tommy said that it doesn't want tommy robinson ranks. and yet robinson in its ranks. and yet there's nodding there's a former tory pm nodding along to him being called a hero. does it not make you uncomfortable? >> think you're being too >> i think you're being too harsh. i've certainly been in interviews when things have been said and my mind has been elsewhere, i'm thinking elsewhere, because i'm thinking about what going say about what i'm going to say next, i haven't necessarily about what i'm going to say next, in i haven't necessarily about what i'm going to say next, in how aven't necessarily about what i'm going to say next, in how toen't necessarily about what i'm going to say next, in how to respond ssarily taken in how to respond to something. agree . something. she didn't agree. you're just saying you interpreted her response as a nodding along. what i would say is liz truss has lifted the lid on forces at work in parliament that are not elected , that are that are not elected, that are not democratic, that have been hindering policies, being driven

through. i felt it very much dunng through. i felt it very much during the brexit years. there were absolutely civil service at work, trying to overturn a democratic vote . they should democratic vote. they should have no power to do so . and liz have no power to do so. and liz said, and this was one of the quotes i totally agree with. she said. as pm, she discovered that that prime minister that role as prime minister didn't let you hold any of the levers were held by levers. the levers were held by the england , the obr not the bank of england, the obr not held the pm, not held the held by the pm, not held by the chancellor. this is important. very, very scary stuff because if you're electing a party, if you have a chance for an pm that have oven you have a chance for an pm that have over, the have no control over, over the economics of your country. benjamin, what's point in benjamin, what's the point in voting ballot box? sorry voting at the ballot box? sorry to interrupt you, belinda. >> the world bank a >> we even had the world bank a few weeks ago that few weeks ago saying that the tories, this government of the united shouldn't raise tories, this government of the uniteibecause shouldn't raise tories, this government of the uniteibecause it shouldn't raise tories, this government of the uniteibecause it wouldn'tt raise tories, this government of the uniteibecause it wouldn't beiise tories, this government of the unitefor:ause it wouldn't beiise tories, this government of the unite for growth. wouldn't beiise tories, this government of the unite for growth. who dn't beiise tories, this government of the unitefor growth. who are beiise tories, this government of the unite for growth. who are thesee good for growth. who are these people? country ? people? who runs the country? >> the record. that's exactly what when what margaret thatcher said when she power. okay. and she came to power. okay. and look, sits saying look, she sits there saying the wokerati are wokerati and communists are controlling country. i'm controlling the country. i'm sorry, communists are sorry, how many communists are in england and in in the bank of england and in ftse 100? >> probably, probably more than youwell, are in >> well, there are a lot in schools

>> well, there are a lot in sch all; >> well, there are a lot in sch all right, >> well, there are a lot in schall right, right. >> all right, all right. politician, let's politician, dare i say, let's not that sue gray who was not forget that sue gray who was responsible for that partygate report that undid boris johnson's premiership. now it leading the labour party prime example and directing everything there. what, what does that there. so what, what does that tell example still ahead though. some women say they prefer a dad bod to a more finely honed, athletic type. but is belinda lucy among them? well, it's a debate that's sweeping the nafion debate that's sweeping the nation and it's coming right up. you're with the saturday five live on

gb news. welcome back to the saturday five. welcome back to the saturday five.thank welcome back to the saturday five. thank you very much for your emails on liz truss and has written in and anne says, as a conservative party member, i would still vote for truss over her sunak and many financiers have come around actually to say that her policies were the right policies. albie amankona has turned a shade of pink and steve

says truss was never convincing, and now she's just contributing even more to the disaster facing the tory party. you're suddenly very happy . oh yes, truss's fault. >> wasn't it cool? it is all truss. >> but now it's time for our next debate up next, it's beunda next debate up next, it's belinda de lucy. >> so bulging biceps , six pack >> so bulging biceps, six pack chiselled abs and beefy stacked shoulders are often seen as the ultimate package women desire in men. and of course, there's nothing wrong with that. but recently, multiple surveys report on average women's preferences swaying towards the common man, active but more soft around the edges , cuddlier around the edges, cuddlier versions suggesting that the famous dad bod is becoming more of an aphrodisiac for women of today. of an aphrodisiac for women of today . it's horses for courses, today. it's horses for courses, of course , but it is comforting of course, but it is comforting to see there is ever growing pressure on young men, especially to get that quick fix six pack and bulk up social media is filled with many a hercules pumping iron with their huge muscle with hashtag no pain, no gain and hashtag go hard or go home and with young

girls and weight pressures, it can enforce standards unattainable to most men who are in the online perfection world can suffer from low self—esteem too. not to mention the lifetime of gym routines needed and super strict diet devotion that can mean little time left for date nights. i'm keen on promoting healthy living for everyone , but healthy living for everyone, but fitness isn't all about granite cut , zero fat hulk muscle fitness isn't all about granite cut, zero fat hulk muscle bods . cut, zero fat hulk muscle bods. so let's celebrate how attractive men are in their normal, healthy body types too. i'm glad dad bods get the adoration they deserve so i think we are going to get a good personal trainer . personal trainer. >> you've got a vested interest. >> you've got a vested interest. >> well, not at all. >> well, not at all. >> i've just. i have a lot of teenagers around the house and a lot of the young men are super, super sort of addicted to a lot of this, these fitness apps and having six packs having these six packs and things and thought was things and, and i thought it was quite that on quite a nice surprise that on average, women sway a lot towards a sort of well balanced man who has interests in other things other than themselves .

things other than themselves. and i thought that was just nice to see that the dad bod gets appreciated , too. appreciated, too. >> absolutely. and i think, do you what? if actually dad you know what? if actually a dad speaking who has a dad speaking as a man who has a dad bod you ? i think bod, how dare you? i think actually if a dad bod means that you're spending your time with your and working, then your kids and working, then sorry, it only takes an hour to go to the gym. >> you're not down there for hours just to get it in so people into a studio people don't come into a studio for minutes and talk about for two minutes and talk about things job. for two minutes and talk about thirdo job. for two minutes and talk about thirdo they job. for two minutes and talk about thirdo they work»b. for two minutes and talk about thirdo they work 17 days >> do they work 17 days straight? >> thank you very much. and i've still gone to gym today. still gone to the gym today. >> seven straight. i think >> seven days straight. i think three day. >> seven days straight. i think threyou day. >> seven days straight. i think threyou know, day. >> seven days straight. i think threyou know, i've waited a long >> you know, i've waited a long time to have belinda's adoration, glad . it was adoration, so i'm glad. it was very good of you to come out and say it. pleasure you know, i think there is a problem here that that a lot of that the reason that a lot of men, men in particular, men, young men in particular, are obsessed with their physical appearance is that it's their appearance. it's not actually about the health. in fact, i think very bad for their think it's very bad for their mental health. you know, i actually instagram , i refuse actually on instagram, i refuse to follow people that show

constant topless photos because i think it's bad for my mental health. i don't look like that. i'm probably never going to look. >> so let me ask a question. >> so let me ask you a question. >> so let me ask you a question. >> and i think it's think >> and i think it's i think people unreasonable people have an unreasonable we've here, this we've got someone here, um, this this wonderful panellist this is our wonderful panellist ben leo, showing us his. >> it's the anti dad bod picture who look at that. >> who's been stalking my instagram. can i ask you something? why does it make you feel bad looking at people with good bodies ? good bodies? >> because first of all, i think often the photos are often the photos online are edhed often the photos online are edited to look better they edited to look better than they really my picture there wasn't >> well, my picture there wasn't edited. make edited. why does it make you feel bad? >> because i'm. i'm not fat. i'm not weight. but i feel not unhealthy weight. but i feel like if i constantly see like that if i constantly see photos of a perfect. >> don't you stop eating >> so why don't you stop eating as and down gym and as much and go down the gym and you'll because you'll feel better? because i don't you'll feel better? because i dor ben, you'll feel better? because i dorben, i like eating food, but >> ben, i like eating food, but you the way i. you feel bad the way i. >> you're not happy because you feel no no, feel if i feel bad. no no, i feel bad if i look people. look at ridiculous people. >> you look, we >> i mean, you know, look, we can't all achieve of can't all achieve the peaks of youn can't all achieve the peaks of your. but yes your. yes you can, but yes you can. i think that it's a much healthier people be healthier for people to be

comfortable little of comfortable with a little bit of weight. i buy into the nigella lawson know , she's lawson approach. you know, she's always said she'd rather be always said that she'd rather be curvy than be curvy and enjoy her food than be a stick thin model. curvy and enjoy her food than be a stshe'sin model. curvy and enjoy her food than be a stshe's right.del. curvy and enjoy her food than be a stshe's right. well, before >> she's right. well, before i come to albie and darren, shall we a look at some, dad we take a look at some, uh, dad bod photos and see what you think? bod photos and see what you thirhere have simon cowell. >> here we have simon cowell. >> here we have simon cowell. >> consider that a dad bod. >> that el.- e yeah,that's e yeah, that's the >> oh, that is. yeah, that's the dad bod. >> quite decent he >> quite a decent chest. he obviously works chest out. obviously works his chest out. he's well he's not skinny fat. well leonardo dicaprio, he gets all the ladies. >> i'm sure it's got nothing to do his wealth and fame, do with his wealth and fame, but. those but. but i'm saying those kind of bodies as gordon ramsay there. >> he works out. that's not a dad bod, but they're normal , dad bod, but they're normal, healthy, fit men. >> and i think should be >> and i think they should be celebrated and lot celebrated too. and a lot of women all these surveys women in all these surveys actually go that, because actually go for that, because maybe men. yeah, maybe these men. yeah, adam sandler , spend a little bit more sandler, spend a little bit more time on other people than themselves. >> i just don't believe the women answering that poll . i women answering that poll. i think, i think, i think if they had a button to say, i want my husband to have a dad bod to husband to have a dad bod or to be or ripped, be athletic or even ripped, they'd choose the athletic, you think ripped. >> there's nothing >> but there's nothing to

snuggle night it's snuggle up to at night if it's just washboard just a washboard stomach. >> kids up and i'll >> i pick my kids up and i'll put you know, nuzzle put their, you know, nuzzle their shoulder my their head in my shoulder and my kid say, oh, you're so kid dude will say, oh, you're so like, yeah, pony. yeah eat pie. >> what do you think, calvin? >> what do you think, calvin? >> is, with rich men >> the thing is, with rich men is every is i just assume every ripped man because normally the man is gay because normally the pred man is gay because normally the ripped gay. you know, ripped men are gay. you know, most straight men have dad bods. and then you see all these pred and then you see all these ripped guys, and normally they're gay. >> yeah. let's be honest. you just would choose just say most women would choose that. women that. i think most women don't have right have a choice. right >> well, and i'm sure some women would actually say, well, look, i want to go with i don't want to go to bed with a skeleton . skeleton. >> well, you know, i don't think nature i think all men in all their and sizes are their shapes and sizes are supposed to a dad bod. they're delicious. i'm such fan of delicious. i'm such a big fan of men as a sex. yeah. and i think tall, short, you know, whatever size men are wonderful it may be for you, maybe for you. >> but my point is, do what makes you happy. if you're happy as that's great. but as you are, that's great. but when say it when you and your ilk say it makes you one happy to see pictures of fat people on the internet that problem with

internet, that is a problem with you. else. you. and no one else. >> is that it's >> but the point is that it's not their level fitness. >> no, not fitness. » no, >> no, it's not about fitness. >> no, it's not about fitness. >> entire and it >> my entire point and it doesn't lot of men, doesn't matter. a lot of men, young let's bear in young men. and let's bear in mind why shouldn't people want to the one to look good? the number one cause 40? cause of death for under 40? that suicide. and that are men is suicide. and that's have sense that's because they have a sense that's because they have a sense that they're not fulfilling an expectation that they're not fulfilling an expectat enough, they >> man enough, unless they are like >> man enough, unless they are uke hogan >> man enough, unless they are like hogan and went back to like hulk hogan and went back to the era of the 505, which is the era of beunda the 505, which is the era of belinda would love to live. >> okay, didn't >> i would love okay, men didn't have six packs, right? they weren't. they did. they weren't. yes weren't yes they did, they weren't unhealthy. lot unhealthy. they were a lot healthier than today. that is true. go around true. but you didn't go around having having having all these men having incredible chiselled bodies because healthy, not because they were healthy, not fitness think fitness obsessed. and i think fitness obsessed. and i think fitness is itself unhealthy. >> that that extent of fitness being ripped low ,10% >> that that extent of fitness being ripped low , 10% body fat being ripped low, 10% body fat even. mean, that's fine, but even. i mean, that's fine, but six 7% body fat isn't. but that's the craze on social media because it's not sustainable . because it's not sustainable. and have really it's just and you have to really it's just a life. a really obsessive way of life. however there's nothing wrong with wanting to be fit and look good. >> no, we can agree that , >> no, we can agree on that, even to look good even if it's just to look good and apparent that online, and it's apparent that online, on social. >> right, can do that for >> all right, i can do that for the likes. >> can i pick up now?

>> where can i pick up now? >> where can i pick up now? >> someone someone scrawled all the dads at home with your dad bods. >> thank you very for >> thank you very much for watching. always watching. thanks as always to i'll belinda i'll be benjamin, belinda and ben. most of all, to you ben. but most of all, to you wonderful viewers . clive's wonderful viewers. clive's written he says, i've had written in. he says, i've had a dad for many years. i ride dad bod for many years. i ride harley—davidsons and trust me, i've had problem with i've never had a problem with women who are. next up, it's the brilliant leo kearse with the saturday night showdown . cheers saturday night showdown. cheers for we'll all see for watching and we'll all see you next week . you again next week. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsor of weather on . gb news. hello on. gb news. hello >> good evening. welcome to your latest gb news, weather and greg dewhurst . we'll see some frost dewhurst. we'll see some frost and fog forming through tonight, but we do have some heavy rain moving into southern parts of england and wales as we go through sunday and into monday , through sunday and into monday, courtesy of this area of low pressure. met office warnings already out for this part of the

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stockpiles of ammunition . stockpiles of ammunition. defence secretary grant shapps says he's proud that since the invasion, the uk has trained 60,000 ukrainian troops , adding 60,000 ukrainian troops, adding that no one has done as much for kyiv than the uk or former prime minister boris johnson has been in kyiv. he's been speaking exclusively to gb news, praising the war torn country . the war torn country. >> they've taken out thousands and thousands of russian tanks, 40% of russia's black sea fleet and yet ukraine says exports are now back up to pre—war levels. so i've got absolutely no doubt that with the right support from the west, ukraine can win . and the west, ukraine can win. and it's vital in the months ahead that we give them that support. this is an unconventional report . uh, but here we are in kyiv on the eighth. the sad second anniversary, uh, with a ukrainian pop nation that, in my view, is absolute determined. still to win. and the giveaway .