facing them. and sir lindsay hoyle. let's face it, he must be

breathing a massive sigh of relief right now because the attention has deflected away from him, but only for a moment, because now it's back on him again. he's refused an snp motion for a debate on the conflict in gaza. the number of no confidence motions in him are rocketing . there are about 80 rocketing. there are about 80 now, so should he stay or should he go . yes, indeed. there is so he go. yes, indeed. there is so much for us to get stuck into . much for us to get stuck into. but before we do, let's cross live to polly middlehurst for tonight's 6:00 news. michelle thank you and good evening to you. >> well, the top story from the gb news room tonight is that the london mayor, sadiq khan, has now accused lee anderson of pounng on now accused lee anderson of pouring on flames pouring petrol on the flames of islamophobia . he was speaking islamophobia. he was speaking after the prime minister described former tory deputy described the former tory deputy chairman's as chairman's remarks as unacceptable, but refused to say that they were islamophobic .

that they were islamophobic. earlier, lee anderson admitted his words had been clumsy when he suggested islamists had got control of the mayor of london. he said he intended to highlight what he believes is mr khan's failure to tackle pro—palestine protests in the capital. sadiq khan, though, says rishi sunak needs to clearly condemn the remarks. >> in more than two days now, since this senior conservative made comments that were clearly racist , anti—muslim made comments that were clearly racist, anti—muslim and islamophobic and still no firm condemnation from the leader of conservative party, the prime minister, the problem is you have a senior conservative saying things that are clearly racist, anti muslim and islamophobic. racist, anti muslim and islamophobic . that's leading to islamophobic. that's leading to an environment where anti—muslim crime is spiralling and what they're doing is pouring petrol on the flames of islamophobia . on the flames of islamophobia. >> sadiq khan well, rishi sunak says he's taken the appropriate action. >> most important thing is that the words were wrong. they were ill judged, they were

unacceptable. and that's what i believe. and that's why the whip has suspended . and think has been suspended. and i think i everyone can see that i think everyone can see that tensions already running tensions are already running high. and what i want to do, i think what the country wants to see is the heat taken out of this debate. think that's this debate. and i think that's the thing to do. the right thing to do. >> well, also, in the news today, the leader of the snp in westminster, stephen says westminster, stephen flynn, says the broken his word the speaker has broken his word after he refused scottish after he refused a scottish national party application for an emergency debate on gaza. that's after the commons was thrown into turmoil last week when sir lindsay hoyle allowed a labour amendment to an snp motion on the same subject. mr flynn described today's decision as outrageous . the number of flynn described today's decision as outrageous. the number of mps demanding a no confidence vote in the speaker has now reached 80. the nhs is under severe pressure as junior doctors continue to strike across england. it's the 10th time doctors have stopped work since march as a bitter row with the government over pay continues.

doctor robert lawrenson, from the british medical association, says the government's happy for strikes to proceed. rishi sunak denied trying to run down the nhs, insisting instead his government had delivered record health care funding for the service . a member of the us service. a member of the us military who apparently set himself on fire outside the israeli embassy in washington at the weekend, has now died. it's understood he was wearing military fatigues and shouting free palestine as he streamed the apparent protest online. more information is expected to be announced later, after the military has notified the man's family . a transgender person family. a transgender person who's also a cat killer has been jailed for life and told to serve a minimum tum of 24 years for the murder of augie martin chirino , 26 year old so—called chirino, 26 year old so—called scarlett blake targeted him as part of a fantasy inspired by a netflix documentary . she hit him

netflix documentary. she hit him on the head as he walked home from a night out in oxford in july and pushed him into the river, where he drowned. his murder came four months after blake live streamed herself, killing a cat. blake live streamed herself, killing a cat . the prime killing a cat. the prime minister says new investment in transport for the north of england and the midlands is levelling up in action. it's after the government outlined plans for the reallocation of funds following the cancellation of hs2's northern leg . it'll be of hs2's northern leg. it'll be up to local councils to allocate the funds, but the mayor of greater manchester, andy burnham, says the money was already promised a decade ago . already promised a decade ago. now farmers have been outside eu offices in brussels today, throwing eggs and spraying manure, as well as blocking streets with their tractors , all streets with their tractors, all in a protest against cheap supermarket prices . riot police supermarket prices. riot police were seen firing water cannon as eu ministers arrived for meetings on the growing crisis . meetings on the growing crisis. the farmers are demanding action from the european union on free

trade agreements, which they blame for damaging european farming . blame for damaging european farming. it's blame for damaging european farming . it's the latest in farming. it's the latest in a series of similar protests across the bloc, with the eu already moving to weaken some of its green policies . that's the its green policies. that's the news for the latest stories, do sign up to gb news alerts. scan the qr code on your screen right now or go to gb news .com/ alerts . alerts. >> thank you very much for that, polly. i am michelle dewberry and i'm keeping you company until 7:00 tonight alongside me , until 7:00 tonight alongside me, i've got the pr consultant, alex dean , and the former labour dean, and the former labour adviser, scarlett mccgwire. good evening. good evening to both of you. everybody. what you. what a day, everybody. what a week end. there is never a dull moment in politics, is there? i mean, actually, i would like to say. well, have you studied politics? did you study politics? >> yes, i did an international relations degree. >> did you ever, in any of your wildest kind of textbooks or any of your wildest kind of essays,

would have even been able to would you have even been able to dream up some of the antics of politics? >> no, that's always been >> no, but that's always been the think people who the case. i think people who were during watergate the case. i think people who were say, during watergate the case. i think people who were say, i during watergate the case. i think people who were say, i never] watergate the case. i think people who were say, i never imaginede the case. i think people who were say, i never imagined that would say, i never imagined that you'd have, you know, particularly competent, particularly in competent, bungung particularly in competent, bungling breaking into bungling burglars breaking into the headquarters. nor the democratic headquarters. nor would i say, you know, if i told you for off part documentary about post office was about the post office that was going sir davy's career going to mean sir davy's career was jeopardy . going to mean sir davy's career was jeopardy. i mean, you was in jeopardy. i mean, you know, make these know, you can't make these things or now. know, you can't make these thiri|s or now. know, you can't make these thiri know or now. know, you can't make these thiri know you or now. know, you can't make these thiri know you cannot make them >> i know you cannot make them up. better than the worst up. it's better than the worst fiction the moment, isn't it? fiction at the moment, isn't it? anyway, you tell me your thoughts all. i've got thoughts on it all. i've got a packed show for you tonight. of course, one of main topics course, one of the main topics in british politics and in town is british politics and the state so the absolute state of it. so that's where we're going to be the absolute state of it. so that's tonight. e're going to be the absolute state of it. so that's tonight. there'sng to be the absolute state of it. so that's tonight. there's so to be the absolute state of it. so that's tonight. there's so much going tonight. there's so much i want to talk to you about. lee anderson, what he's to say. anderson, what he's had to say. sadiq khan's rishi sadiq khan's response. rishi sunak's talk sunak's response i want to talk about mps security, whether or not need to up the ante not we need to up the ante there. want talk about the there. i want to talk about the protests. there is so much i want to cover with you guys tonight. very tonight. you're a very, very important this important part of this conversation. and, know, the

conversation. and, you know, the drill, don't how to reach drill, don't you? how to reach me now, gbviews@gbnews.com me by now, gbviews@gbnews.com is how you can how you email me. or you can tweet or x me at gb news. now, if you've been chilling out over the you've not been the weekend, if you've not been paying the weekend, if you've not been paying attention the paying any attention to the news, what on news, you don't know what on earth talking about. shall i earth i'm talking about. shall i bnng earth i'm talking about. shall i bring speed the whole bring you up to speed the whole lee anderson argument? it's all following that following comments that he actually this actually made here on this station. suspended now station. he's been suspended now from the tory party as from from the tory party as a result. so settle in. let's remind ourselves about what on earth has been going on. >> i don't actually believe that these islamists got control these islamists have got control of our country, but what i do believe is they've got control of khan and they've got control of khan and they've got control of london, and they've got control of storm as well . control of storm as well. >> all right. well, there you go. and for context, he was responding. i don't know if you remember suella braverman remember this suella braverman she letter, think it she wrote a letter, i think it was the telegraph she was in the telegraph where she basically islamists, basically said the islamists, the the extreme the anti—semites and the extreme ists control. so that's ists have got control. so that's what was responding i what he was responding to. i think on martin daubney, think it was on martin daubney, his programme. anyway, think it was on martin daubney, his pro let's me. anyway, think it was on martin daubney, his pro let's look anyway, think it was on martin daubney, his pro let's look at anyway, think it was on martin daubney, his pro let's look at what vay, think it was on martin daubney, his pro let's look at what sadiq listen, let's look at what sadiq khan had to say in response. >> look, these comments from a

senior conservative are islamophobic, anti—muslim islamophobic, are anti—muslim and racist . what we've seen and are racist. what we've seen over the last two days, uh , over the last two days, uh, confirmation that over the last few months there's been an increase in anti—muslim cases by more than 330. these comments are pour fuel on the fire of anti—muslim hatred . and i'm anti—muslim hatred. and i'm afraid the deafening silence from rishi sunak and from the cabinet is them condoning this , cabinet is them condoning this, this racism and i'm afraid it confirms to many people across the country, see, that there's a hierarchy when it comes to racism. i think it's really important to call out anti—semitic ism. it's really important to call out misogyny. it's really important to call out homophobia. but surely it must also be important to call out anti—muslim hatred are important. >> it is. so let's listen then, to how rishi sunak responded to it all. >> well, i've been very clear that what he said was wrong. it

was unacceptable and that's why we suspended the whip. and it's important that everybody , but important that everybody, but particularly elected politicians , are careful with their words and do not inflame tensions. most important thing is that the words were wrong. they were ill judged, they were unacceptable. and that's what i believe. and that's why the whip has been suspended. and i think, think suspended. and i think, i think everyone see that tensions everyone can see that tensions are running high. and are already running high. and what i want to do, i think what the country wants to see is the heat out of this debate. heat taken out of this debate. and the right and i think that's the right thing do. thing to do. >> indeed. i can tell you >> indeed. well, i can tell you now, i'm going let this topic now, i'm going to let this topic breathe, because we're going to do the hour on all of do the whole hour on all of this. i want your thoughts on this. so i want your thoughts on it lee anderson, uh, the it all. lee anderson, uh, the response the party, response from the tory party, was it enough or not? i want to talk security. i want was it enough or not? i want to ta|talk security. i want was it enough or not? i want to ta|talk about security. i want was it enough or not? i want to ta|talk about the ;ecurity. i want was it enough or not? i want to ta|talk about the latest r. i want to talk about the latest developments as in the developments as well in the comments with sir lindsay hoyle saying snp not saying that the snp are not going their, um, their going to get their, um, their debates basically on the gaza situation. course, want situation. and of course, i want to well about some of to talk as well about some of the protest activities that have been taken place and double

police standards well. police double standards as well. when so when it comes to policing. so there's i want to get there's so much i want to get into with all of you, but let's start with comments by start with the comments made by lee anderson. uh, alex, what do you those you agree you think to those do you agree with not? with them or not? >> well, let's start with a bit of housekeeping. no offence of housekeeping. and no offence to in which enjoy to this channel in which i enjoy appearing. think it appearing. i think it demonstrates why a bad idea demonstrates why it's a bad idea to elected politicians to have elected politicians appearing presenters appearing as presenters on television i think television shows. i think it puts channel a very puts the channel in a very awkward position. appreciate awkward position. i appreciate on was actually on this example, he was actually appearing commentator appearing more as a commentator than presenter. but when than as a presenter. but when people make the news, are people make the news, there are also those charge of bringing also those in charge of bringing it you. ithink also those in charge of bringing it you. i think there's an it to you. i think there's an obvious just obvious awkwardness. just one man's i've got to man's opinion. well i've got to say, by way, just for the say, by the way, just for the transparency i have said before, i personally think serving transparency i have said before, i pershould think serving transparency i have said before, i per should presenting rving mps should be presenting on any channel anyway. >> and that's the beauty of this station. broad church of station. we're a broad church of opinions. people opinions. obviously, people think topic. opinions. obviously, people think we topic. opinions. obviously, people think we have topic. opinions. obviously, people think we have the topic. opinions. obviously, people think we have the setup)pic. opinions. obviously, people think we have the setup that we hence we have the setup that we do. but anyway continues. it's just my view and i have no problem such people being commentators. >> and in that role, >> and in that commentary role, it me that anderson it seems to me that anderson expressed himself blunderingly it seems to me that anderson expressea himself blunderingly it seems to me that anderson expressea pointelf blunderingly it seems to me that anderson expressea pointelf bleffectively but had a point and effectively the is letting our

the fuss over it is letting our mayor london and indeed the mayor of london and indeed the leader of the opposition, off mayor of london and indeed the learhook the opposition, off mayor of london and indeed the learhook ine opposition, off mayor of london and indeed the learhook in theiposition, off mayor of london and indeed the learhook in the current], off the hook in the current circumstances. we've got to remember that the mayor of london is not just responsible for its administration. he's also police and crime also the police and crime commissioner capital and commissioner for our capital and it may sound strange, given that it's from a red wall mp, an outspoken kind of rebel mp, but it might be more for it might be more difficult for viewers aren't in london to viewers who aren't in london to understand quite how bad the domination of major transport centres major streets in centres and major streets in london have in recent weeks london have been in recent weeks , week after week after week, not just once or twice, of people saying they want bring people saying they want to bring our capital to a standstill and bellow abuse of the worst kind. so you know , anderson may have so you know, anderson may have expressed himself poorly, but it demonstrates it demonstrates to my mind it demonstrates to my mind it demonstrates the media class's comfort zone. prefer to comfort zone. they prefer to talk how much they don't talk about how much they don't like lee anderson, than like lee anderson, rather than talking issue. was like lee anderson, rather than tal matter issue. was like lee anderson, rather than tal matter how issue. was like lee anderson, rather than talmatter how inexactly was like lee anderson, rather than tal matter how inexactly trying; no matter how inexactly trying to identify, well, we're definitely talking definitely going to be talking about the that it was about the issue that it was trying identify. trying to identify. >> you worry about that. >> don't you worry about that. but scarlet, your thoughts >> don't you worry about that. but sctanderson your thoughts >> don't you worry about that. but sctanderson and r thoughts >> don't you worry about that. but sctanderson and whatrghts >> don't you worry about that. but sctanderson and what he ts >> don't you worry about that.

but sctanderson and what he said on lee anderson and what he said and way said it, i think and the way he said it, i think what he said was really shocking. >> and i think that that if you had to put the words judaism instead of islamist, he would have been out the door in two seconds and he wouldn't be on this programme anymore. and i remember i mean, not so long ago, david baddiel wrote a book called jews don't count , ago, david baddiel wrote a book called jews don't count, which basically said, you know that on anti—racism , jews didn't matter. anti—racism, jews didn't matter. and i have felt for some time that it's the same for muslims . that it's the same for muslims. and i'm really worried actually , and i'm really worried actually, about the anti—muslim feeling that there is. and and, and, and, and i think that we have to be very, very careful about it. and i just think that that , you and i just think that that, you know, what, sadiq, whether you agree with him or not, what he doesis agree with him or not, what he does is he acts as mayor of london. he does not act as a muslim. and it's very important. and when he said that, he talked about he talked about anti—semitism . millom i mean,

anti—semitism. millom i mean, you you talk to the board of deputies, the jewish board of depufies deputies, the jewish board of deputies about the work they do with and it's a lot. with sadiq, and it's a lot. right. and he works with christians long christians, and he's always long before he was mayor, long before he was an mp. he's always done interfaith stuff . and i think, interfaith stuff. and i think, i think, i think it's very, very important. and sayeeda important. and when sayeeda warsi, is a conservative warsi, who is a conservative peer , sort of well, she is she peer, sort of well, she is she was put in there by david cameron and she's a muslim peer and she called it out for what it is. and i just i mean, i it is. and ijust i mean, i think that that, that we have to be very, very careful and remember , i'm labour, i've been remember, i'm labour, i've been through corbyn. right. and i've watched what happened when corbyn didn't actually take a firm stance on anti—semitism in the labour party, and he allowed things to happen that were appalling . right. appalling. right. >> i respect a lot of that. i certainly respect the point about your experience in corbyn. but i also acknowledge the point that you make about the need for care. a distinction care. but there is a distinction that made in his that anderson made in his remarks, which other people

disliked about them. between islam and an islamist islam in general and an islamist tendency extremism in tendency of extremism in particular. we do have particular. and we do have a problem within islam in this country. we can't country. and if we can't acknowledge and talk about acknowledge it and talk about it in way that we're in the same way that we're willing to talk about right wing extremism, willing to talk about right wing ex'identify talk about it, to identify and talk about it, then we are betraying the public. a knowing public. and it's a knowing betrayal the british public, betrayal of the british public, given of threats betrayal of the british public, giveiare of threats betrayal of the british public, giveiare apparently of threats betrayal of the british public, giveiare apparently being�*ats that are apparently being offered our members of offered to our members of parliament, which are the left are predominantly identifying, but the what he said but actually the what he said was that sadiq was basically him and his pals, who were islamists and his pals, who were islamists and that's what. >> no, come on, that he didn't say. >> he didn't say that. and islam mates. >> right. his islamist mates. and that is completely and utterly wrong . and i absolutely utterly wrong. and i absolutely look, i agree that there is extremes on all sides. right. and that i mean, what's interesting is that people were very , very worried about, um, i very, very worried about, um, i mean, when i say serious violence, i'm talking about bombs . violence, i'm talking about bombs. nothing like that has happened. bombs. nothing like that has happened . we've had no islamist

happened. we've had no islamist violence . violence. >> right. look, this wasn't i don't regard this as as directed to the he may have felt that it was, but i don't feel that this was, but i don't feel that this was this was regarding sadiq khan's own racial background, not least, or religious islamist mate. not not least because in the same sentence , he said, and the same sentence, he said, and keir starmer, who is not a muslim, you know, he was saying these are pushovers. they these people are pushovers. they are people are letting these people have their way in our capital when they standing for they should be standing up for law and that, i think, law and order. that, i think, was point. was his point. >> i just think you don't i think it's i think it is really, really dangerous what is happening about it. and i've said the same thing to nigel farage on his programme when he said, oh, i'm worried about the right, you know, there's a muslim party and we don't even go there. >> i take my point about the need for care, but i also think it's dangerous to have people on the streets thinking they control streets, shouting control our streets, shouting death river death to israel from the river to sea, death to jews, you to the sea, death to jews, you know, so forth. i think know, and so forth. i think that's as well. my that's dangerous as well. and my point media class, by point is, our media class, by

and is much more and large, is much more comfortable slagging off lee anderson than talking about that. and i mean, >> well, yeah. and i mean, i think that this has become quite an interesting distraction from what of people's concerns what a lot of people's concerns actually are. and of course, i mentioned the start the mentioned at the start of the programme that lindsay programme that sir lindsay hoyle, you now, he hoyle, i'm telling you now, he will a of will be breathing a sigh of relief over last weekend. i relief over that last weekend. i can tell you that because it was all, of course, on him. can i just ask you, though, because. because, lee anderson made because, um, lee anderson made a specific point a specific specific point about a specific situation. what he was situation. so what he was talking was, um, he wasn't talking about was, um, he wasn't talking about was, um, he wasn't talking muslims en masse. talking about muslims en masse. he talking about islamists. he was talking about islamists. and as i understand it, he was referencing it to the whole situation around a lot of these. he was talking about sadiq mates. >> that's the he was talking about sadiq's mates. remember when , uh, the labour guy when, uh, the labour guy ex—labour guy in rochdale was found to be talking about jewish, uh, the influence of jewish, uh, the influence of jewish journalists? he was thrown out . right. thrown out. right. >> but i just want to check this because as far as i understand it, lee anderson is not conflate

ing an islamist with your normal average muslim. but are you? because you're saying that when he's talking about islamist, you're saying this is islamophobic and it's fuelling anti—muslim hate, so it's you that's making conflation? that's making that conflation? >> what i what >> no. what i what i what actually, to quote soledar , when actually, to quote soledar, when one talks about zionists it is it is often used used to really talk about jews. when you talk about sadiq and his islamist mates, i think you're in trouble. that's that's what i'm saying. >> i it's different for me, at least in two. i appreciate the point you're making, but and i do think some people use that as a cipher. but not all jews are zionists. indeed, many jews think that the foundation of israel was a mistake. equally not jews. i'm not all zionists are jews. i'm a zionist i'm not jew. so zionist and i'm not a jew. so you can. those two things don't necessarily go together. but whatever you think it, whatever you think of it, zionism another zionism is about another country. another country. it's about another state. there state. and i think there are a couple of interesting things about that, not least because the this the islamist tendency in this country, can describe

country, if we can describe it like that, just about it's like that, isn't just about it's our relationship with judaism. it's believing in it's about not believing in british democracy. it's about wanting to restore the caliphate, ignoring the fact that we're two. and which one would you want? but anyway, they want to do away basically speaking way of life speaking with our way of life and that to fester is and allowing that to fester is probably mistake . having islam probably a mistake. having islam in our country thriving as a part of our culture. totally fine islamism. the point that he was making is different now. you were saying, um, uh, if you substituted the word jew for muslim in anderson's remarks , muslim in anderson's remarks, then you'd have another think coming. but jews aren't marching by the thousand in our capital, calling for the deaths of others or for their eviction from countries. so it's rather different. >> i've got to say, i do think it's really strange thing it's a really strange thing going um, which is this going on. um, which is this conflation someone conflation that if someone raises about what is raises a concern about what is regarded as an islamist perspective , which is quite an perspective, which is quite an extreme one wanting to replace the way, um, and the whole structure of society , piety, the structure of society, piety, the principle of the laws in this country and the political

systems and all the rest of it. if one raises a concern about that correctly identifies it that and correctly identifies it as perspective, as an islamist perspective, there seem to be this there does seem to be this nofion there does seem to be this notion now that in to order shut down those concerns and perhaps to turn a blind eye to them or not to address them, not have to address them, because, face it's because, let's face it, it's uncomfortable. let's call people islamophobic into islamophobic to shame them into silence . do you agree with that silence. do you agree with that or not? i can tell you now, lee anderson, uh, he didn't back down and apologise. i'll have his statement after the break, and bringing you and i'll also be bringing you guys into conversation. so guys into the conversation. so don't anywhere

listening to gb news radio show. >> hello there. >> hello there. >> michelle dewberry with you till 7:00 tonight. alex deane and scarlett mccgwire remain alongside us and right through till 7:00. we will be continuing to look. let's face it, at the absolute mess that is british politics. i'm crucially asking you this question as well tonight. do you still support lee anderson? what do you think to what rishi sunak did about

suspending the whip from him? was that the right decision or not? i've got to say today lee anderson , he wasn't really anderson, he wasn't really having any of it. he made a statement and i could tell you now he wasn't backtracking and apologising. he basically went on that, yes, he accepted on to say that, yes, he accepted that made some comments that that he made some comments that some were some people thought were divisive politics. politics divisive. and politics. politics is divisive . and he is very is divisive. and he is very frustrated , basically, at the frustrated, basically, at the failures of , frustrated, basically, at the failures of, of uh, frustrated, basically, at the failures of , of uh, the mayor of failures of, of uh, the mayor of london, sadiq khan. he says, um, he called for an immediate ceasefire weeks ago , basically ceasefire weeks ago, basically with no conditions attached. while the hostages were still there . um, he goes on about there. um, he goes on about basically loads of people have been arrested for racist abuse on marches , but then on these marches, but then there's barely a peep from , uh, there's barely a peep from, uh, there's barely a peep from, uh, the mayor. and it kind of goes on and on. anyway, the point was, he basically says it's all about double standards. so long story he's really, um story short, he's not really, um , you know, going back and apologising for that now. patrick christys , um, joins me patrick christys, um, joins me now . now, you've actually now. now, you've actually exclusive you've interviewed lee

anderson about this. i think we've got a little clip of that. we'll play that in a second, and then i'll pick up back with you to discuss. so let's have a listen . listen. >> if mayor khan is not coming out on tv or any media channel and saying, this is disgusting, what's happening on our streets in london, we should not have these graphics being flashed onto this is shocking. onto big ben. this is shocking. this will clamp this is terrible. i will clamp down on this. if he's not saying that, then he's lost control and you can't blame the police for this. he controls the police. that's his job. >> well, that was an interview with you, patrick. you're airing that tonight 9:00. with you, patrick. you're airing tha well,]ht 9:00. with you, patrick. you're airing tha well, it's 9:00. with you, patrick. you're airing tha well, it's going). with you, patrick. you're airing tha well, it's going to go out in >> well, it's going to go out in full at 10 pm, actually, but. >> or stay up late. >> or stay up late. >> everybody stay up late. we've got numerous different clips of it to play as well. it to play early as well. i mean, simply put, it's the mean, look, simply put, it's the interview be interview that's going to be leading news agenda leading the news agenda tomorrow. might as well tomorrow. so you might as well watch exclusively tonight on watch it exclusively tonight on gb news. a of covered gb news. a lot of issues covered in does not in this. i mean, he does not hold at all. i mentioned to hold back at all. i mentioned to him there what did he mean him there about what did he mean by saying that sadiq khan was under control of certain

under the control of certain people ? i asked about an people? i asked him about an issue double standards. you issue of double standards. you know, cameron has know, david cameron has previously similar previously said very similar things than this. and is now our foreign secretary he's not holding back when it comes to that. well. i asked whether that. as well. i asked whether or is an overreaction or not this is an overreaction from if he from rishi sunak, and if he thinks he's lost the thinks that he's now lost the red wall. well, again, lee's answers there are strong. answers there are pretty strong. i also asked him about the question as to whether or not he's going to join the reform party, and i would that party, and i would expect that that particular will be that in particular will be making some headlines tomorrow. >> here >> well, they go at 10:00 here on patrick chris's show. i, for one, certainly will be watching. i look forward to it . one, certainly will be watching. i look forward to it. um, right. i've been asking you guys at home whether or not you still support him, mach said. lionnis son should never have been suspended. every thing that he said was true. just look at the chaos at starmer and the speaker caused in parliament at, uh, last week . david is talking last week. david is talking about the aggression on, uh, on the streets. he's saying that aggression is far worse than anything that lee anderson uh,

says. scott fitz is wrong, says malcolm , one of my viewers. the malcolm, one of my viewers. the danger does come from islamism . danger does come from islamism. um, jenny says , why? we've just um, jenny says, why? we've just listened to sadiq khan calling lee anderson racist. uh, can i just ask, since when is islam a race? um you know, you tell me. do you think that rishi sunak was right or wrong? essentially to remove that whip from lee anderson? do you think as well, what about this notion that it might reform? would that might join reform? would that make or not? um, make any difference or not? um, i want pick back up with you i want to pick back up with you then, scarlett, because you are very of the mindset that very much of the mindset that what anderson was saying is what lee anderson was saying is wrong. actually found wrong. and what i actually found quite this whole kind of debate become this whole kind of debate about and the about the wording and the terminology lee anderson terminology that lee anderson used, as opposed to actually addressing point that he addressing the point that he made. we do have a situation in this country now where you've got mps that are fearing , you got mps that are fearing, you know, i've got a vote a certain way or i'm going to be at risk. we'll come on to the fact in a second that you've got mps that

have got security zigi now that genuinely are afraid, you've got democracy being altered, you've got regard hate got what many regard as hate speech beamed onto the, speech being beamed onto the, uh, the elizabeth tower and big ben and a double standard in policing. are you concerned about those things? >> um, i mean, ijust about those things? >> um, i mean, i just think that >> um, i mean, ijust think that there's a lot of conflation. i mean, i mean , lee anderson mean, i mean, lee anderson wasn't talking about those things right? talking things, right? he was talking about marches in london. he wasn't about the problem wasn't talking about the problem that mps have. and which has been getting increasingly difficult. and then obviously , difficult. and then obviously, since the gaza, since the incursions into gaza , uh, it has incursions into gaza, uh, it has got a lot . i mean, it's how to got a lot. i mean, it's how to deal with it. i mean, i don't so let's stick with your theme then. >> you're saying everyone's conflating things. so let's simplify things. you mentioned marches. are these marches a problem in your mind? >> no. i mean, look , people problem in your mind? >know i mean, look , people problem in your mind? >know whoean, look , people problem in your mind? >know who go, look , people problem in your mind? >know who go on ok , people problem in your mind? >know who go on these people problem in your mind? >know who go on these marches i know who go on these marches are not muslim. can i say some are not muslim. can i say some are are secular . are jewish, some are secular. there are. i mean, i'm sure there are lots of christians. there's a whole jewish section

on, on these marches that, that, that people go on week that jewish people go on week after week. so there is there are certainly extremes . that's are certainly extremes. that's who should be, who should be arrested and should be thrown off the mask. >> you this because i agree with you, by the way, that not everyone that goes on these marches is like extremist. marches is like an extremist. i agree with you. so the people that you know that on these that you know that go on these marches, week after week after week, apparent now week, it's become apparent now that there quite a strong, week, it's become apparent now that extremistjuite a strong, week, it's become apparent now that extremist thread strong, week, it's become apparent now that extremist thread that's um, extremist thread that's running them. are running through them. there are lots people that hamas lots of people that back hamas that sellotape, their paratroopers back that paratroopers to the back that have chance and all the have the chance and all the rest. but rest. so are you arrested? but they i'm not they get arrested. i'm not asking about them. i'm asking about the people know, about the people that, you know, that these marches. are they about the people that, you know, thatuncomfortable ches. are they about the people that, you know, thatuncomfortable knowing they about the people that, you know, thatuncomfortable knowing that' not uncomfortable knowing that they're a they're sharing a platform and a march and a pavement, etc, with those? because what they is those? because what they do is they make that that, that they make sure that that, that they're those people. >> i mean, actually i was in a >> i mean, i actually i was in a lift in a tube with, with a bunch of young people i had never met in my life, and they said, oh, we always go for the jewish section because that's where we feel, that's where we

feel best, and we're not going to get near any hamas people, i mean, honestly. they'll join mean, honestly. so they'll join the cause as long as the same cause as long as they're stood next to them they're not stood next to them precisely odd well, well, precisely as an odd well, well, then can isn't it weird then you can say, isn't it weird that on march, but that jews go on that march, but you won't go. you probably won't go. >> probably won't go on >> you probably won't go on a march with a bnp on the basis that as long they don't stand that as long as they don't stand next him, fine. next to him, it's all fine. >> no, i wouldn't go on, i wouldn't. the thing about a bnp march is, is they're march is, is, is they're organised by the bnp, but if there's a march, i actually i hate on marches. the hate going on marches. if the truth um, i mean, it's, truth be told. um, i mean, it's, i just get really sore back. >> but if, if there was a march, there's something i really believed right? believed in right? >> you know, i didn't go >> i mean, you know, i didn't go on remainer march, but i on the big remainer march, but i could gone the big could have gone on the big remainer had i been remainer march had i been in london. don't whether the london. i don't know whether the bnp on that. it wouldn't bnp went on that. it wouldn't have bothered the bnp had have bothered me if the bnp had been on on would have been on on it. i would have been, know, in, in a group been, you know, in, in a group of people. i mean, are we saying that the shouldn't go on that the jews shouldn't go on the when they feel as the march when they feel as strongly people who strongly as and the people who support should be, should support hamas should be, should be arrested ? the people who with

be arrested? the people who with hate speech should be arrested. there absolutely no question there is absolutely no question about that. but most of the march and the people i speak to who've been on these marches, most of them most, most are peaceful. of course, the march that of these magnitudes, you're going find plenty of people going to find plenty of people of good will who are there for good intentions. >> it's clear that >> nevertheless, it's clear that there of people who >> nevertheless, it's clear that there to of people who >> nevertheless, it's clear that there to stop of people who >> nevertheless, it's clear that there to stop ourof people who >> nevertheless, it's clear that there to stop our capitalle who >> nevertheless, it's clear that there to stop our capital working want to stop our capital working and want to scream abuse about jews. so you know, those two things can be true at once. you both talking about conflation. there's another kind of conflation here, and it was by the mayor of london who said that lee anderson was indulging in anti muslim hatred. if i understood the clip that we watched rightly and as i understood it, lee anderson was talking very specifically about islamist , not about islamist extremism, not about muslims and so the real muslims per se. and so the real conflation to my mind there was sadiq khan , who as soon as he's sadiq khan, who as soon as he's offered this chance and no doubt about it, lee anderson expressed himself poorly. but as soon as he offered it, took it he was offered it, he took it like a get out of jail free card

because now, now i don't have to address whether not i'm address whether or not i'm telling police right telling the police the right things i don't have to things or not. i don't have to address whether or not i'm doing my job well. i can call someone a now issue is a racist and now the issue is finished. extraordinary finished. the extraordinary thing about that is the person finished. the extraordinary thingsaidyut that is the person finished. the extraordinary thingsaid the hat is the person finished. the extraordinary thingsaid the worst the person finished. the extraordinary thingsaid the worst the pe about who said the worst things about muslims, as far as i'm concerned, in this business, is sadiq khan, once upon sadiq khan, who said once upon a time moderate muslims were time that moderate muslims were uncle which uncle toms, a remark for which he's apologised. he's subsequently apologised. but it. but nevertheless he said it. >> see, i do. i find >> um, you see, i do. i find this quite interesting, this whole actually has whole point that actually has this just become a massive this now just become a massive distraction, essentially, because you know what? let's point let's talk about point at him. let's talk about that. let's talk about this label and this kind of description. quite description. anything, quite frankly, having talk frankly, to avoid having to talk about bolts of the about the nuts and bolts of the issue. lee anderson, if we cast our back, referring our mind back, he was referring to suella braverman's letter in the where said the telegraph, where she said the and the the islamists and the extremists, taken extremists, whatever, have taken control. extremists, whatever, have taken contr(with because we discussed issue with because we discussed this letter on friday and many people writing in going, this letter on friday and many peoplysuellavriting in going, this letter on friday and many peoplysuella bravermanying, this letter on friday and many peoplysuella braverman for, this letter on friday and many peoplysuella braverman for pm, yeah, suella braverman for pm, you know, she like me. she you know, she talks like me. she talks me. know, talks like me. she, you know, raises the concerns. whatever.

well, i looked at that letter and absurd. said and i thought, how absurd. said because was a line in because she there was a line in there that said along the lines of we shouldn't be a country where teachers in hiding, where teachers are in hiding, fearing for life. right fearing for their life. right right. who who would disagree with that sentiment? it's right. but the fact of the matter is, we are a country where people feel for their lives. but this is on because it's happened is hold on because it's happened on the tories watch. >> that's point about >> so that's my point about about the labour position on this is the ultimate irony. they're very talk about they're very happy to talk about lee and basically not lee anderson and basically not not and lee anderson not liking him. and lee anderson saying these people have taken the have taken over. saying these people have taken the his have taken over. saying these people have taken the his position ve taken over. saying these people have taken the his position echoing over. saying these people have taken the his position echoing some of was his position echoing some of what braverman said. but, what suella braverman said. but, you , the trouble the you know, the trouble with the braverman anderson is braverman anderson position is conservatives have been in government years, so it government for 14 years, so it feels like you're dodging feels rather like you're dodging or issue there. or missing the big issue there. and that that shift, way, and that that shift, by the way, happens with the knowing connivance of media class , connivance of our media class, who are again, much happier talking about intersectionalism or critical race theory or microaggressions. you're not answering my you're not you're not answering my question.

>> my point is that it's all well and good. >> i was conceding you were right. i was answering your question. yeah, but then. >> why then, if suella >> so why then, if suella braverman if lee anderson, if james cleverly. if all of these people high fiving people sit there high fiving themselves, all saying, yes, it's we've this it's wrong that we've got this problem, why isn't that teacher in batley brought out of hiding? why hasn't got a ring of why hasn't he got a ring of steel around him? why isn't he back in school ? that back in that school? that primary school? the other primary school? the other primary they're primary school where they're talking potentially talking about potentially closing and putting lessons onune online because they're frightened about parents protesting you know, why aren't we putting a ring of, of steel around those and around those premises and saying, our watch. saying, no, not on our watch. these things will continue and these things will operate. scarlet you're right . i mean, scarlet you're right. i mean, can say i think there's can i say i think there's a problem with your mic, but, um, i there i think there is. >> i'd be more content >> i'd be much more content seeing that in parliament with you. >> respond in a second when i've tweaked it for you, but it'd be much more willing to have that happen parliament you happen in parliament where, you know, adults have know, grown adults have volunteered themselves know, grown adults have volunt public themselves know, grown adults have volunt public eye themselves know, grown adults have volunt public eye and hemselves know, grown adults have volunt public eye and havealves know, grown adults have volunt public eye and have made in the public eye and have made the decision admire, to the decision which i admire, to go into public service.

>> i'm much more comfortable with school with that than with the school example you give, where ultimately the ultimately in a society, the children concerned are going to get worse education as a get a much worse education as a result of the scenario . you result of the scenario. you sketched the pragmatic solution in that environment. well, because if you do have a ring of steel around a school and everyone's being with everyone's being checked with metal they metal detectors every time they go got parents go in and you've got parents protesting every day, protesting outside every day, whatever and wrongs, protesting outside every day, whatev�*it's and wrongs, protesting outside every day, whatev�*it's wrong and wrongs, protesting outside every day, whatev�*it's wrong my wrongs, protesting outside every day, whatev�*it's wrong my view,]s, clearly it's wrong in my view, and yours. the kids who go to and in yours. the kids who go to that school are education is meant to be about children, not using children as social using children as the social battering rams which you make battering rams by which you make your points. your political points. but come on. >> telling >> so you're telling me so you've a situation where you've got a situation where you've got a situation where you've kids potentially you've got kids potentially being home of being taught at home because of threats, talking about threats, and i'm talking about there's two different schools. in not following the in case you're not following the story, separate story, there's two separate ones. batley teacher ones. there's the batley teacher and then there's the primary school they're school in london where they're talking going talking about potentially going online. children are online. these children are already batley. already affected in batley. your teacher's knows teacher's gone. everybody knows that he teaches in hiding that those kids are not sheltered from know primary from that. yeah i know primary school. a sudden school. all of a sudden you've got to sit at home and do your lessons because these, um, people outside threatening

people are outside threatening the i people are outside threatening thei don't i think of you >> i don't i think both of you thought independently. both thought independently. you both thought independently. you both thought dodging thought i was sort of dodging the wasn't. i was the question and i wasn't. i was conceding premise. i think conceding your premise. i think it is accurate to say the conservative party's been in government these government for 14 years. these problems its problems have emerged on its watch, why. and watch, and that's why. and whilst it's right to say whilst i think it's right to say that the mp for batley and spen has this challenge often levelled least levelled at her not least because seems completely because she seems completely reluctant her reluctant to talk about her constituent who's been driven into, basically the into, you know, basically the equivalent witness equivalent of the witness protection programme and new protection programme and a new identity and so forth. it's actually all fault. actually not all her fault. obviously. down part actually not all her fault. otthersly. down part actually not all her fault. otthe governmentiown part actually not all her fault. otthe government and part actually not all her fault. otthe government and the)art to the government and the culture of the day, which has allowed this to happen. and it's wrong. >> david, going wrong. >> david, i'm going to let you respond when i've respond in a second when i've tweaked microphone because respond in a second when i've tweakethe microphone because respond in a second when i've tweakethe nation rophone because respond in a second when i've tweakethe nation toyhone because respond in a second when i've tweakethe nation to be 1e because respond in a second when i've tweakethe nation to be able cause respond in a second when i've tweakethe nation to be able torse i want the nation to be able to hear your words properly and in full scarlet. uh, david, one of the viewers says, i fully support anderson. support lee anderson. he is speaking of the speaking for the majority of the british population. talks british population. he talks about going these about people going on these protests masked up, protests that are all masked up, and rest of it. i've got and all the rest of it. i've got to ask you this, though, because i actually think that lee anderson, sure how much anderson, i'm not sure how much good did with his comments,

good he did with his comments, because not true. because actually it's not true. if think about it. if you actually think about it. what saying that the what he's saying is that the islamists have got control of london. well, anyone that knows london. well, anyone that knows london know. for example, london will know. for example, you've things like rainbow you've got things like rainbow zebra popping up all zebra crossings popping up all over the place. you've got things like month long celebrate for pride, etc. now, if indeed that was a city that had been, quote, captured by the islamists. i'm telling you now , islamists. i'm telling you now, those kind of things wouldn't actually be going on. so i personally think that lee anderson was potentially trying to make a very good point. a very important point, something that needs to be explored. but on one, for me personally , on this one, for me personally, i he just got the tone i think he just got the tone wrong. and facts wrong. uh, wrong. and his facts wrong. uh, open to being disagreed with by all guys at home. you're all of you guys at home. you're not backwards in coming forwards. you'll definitely tell me on that. me your thoughts on that. vaiews@gbnews.com. content, me your thoughts on that. va conversation;.com. content, me your thoughts on that. vaconversation continues content, the conversation continues into. i'll you then i'll see you then

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by lee anderson . by lee anderson. >> these islamists have got control of our country. but what i do believe is they've got control of khan sacked by his party, criticise by many what he said was wrong. >> it was unacceptable. these comments from a senior conservative are islamophobic, are anti—muslim and are racist. >> now lee anderson speaks out. >> now lee anderson speaks out. >> um, i think the party could have given me a little bit more backing. who has got control of parliament square? is it the extremists is it mayor khan ? extremists or is it mayor khan? i admit of my speech was i admit some of my speech was a little bit clumsy at times. >> tonight, lee anderson speaks exclusively to gb news on patrick christys tonight from 9 pm. be there . hi there . p.m. be there. hi there. >> i'm michelle dewberry with you till seven. the pr consultant alex dean, alongside me, as is a former labour adviser at scarlett mccgwire, now we were just talking about the process. one of my viewers

has got in touch saying, michelle is a really it's gordon actually, he says there's a really to take the really easy way to take the temperature on all of this. temperature down on all of this. we could banning these we could start by banning these marches. i find that quite interesting, gordon, because i know from your perspective that would temperature would bring the temperature down. you're someone on down. but if you're someone on the side and i've got to the other side and i've got to be there's an awful lot be clear, there's an awful lot of people in this country that are by what's are devastated by what's happening palestine. happening in palestine. understandably so, by the way, you getting getting understandably so, by the way, you getting maimed,:ting understandably so, by the way, you getting maimed, getting bombed, getting maimed, getting orphaned. it's absolute devastating. and people are getting desperate . they want, getting desperate. they want, um, our parliament to stop those acts. and if you ban those marches, i wonder if that will, uh, stop the temperature , calm uh, stop the temperature, calm the temperature, gordon, or whether not it will inflame whether or not it will inflame them. now, one of the organisers of these marches, i found it quite interesting what he had to say . uh, ben. jamal, let's say. uh, ben. jamal, let's listen to him. he is a director of the palestinian solidarity campaign. listen they are planning the biggest lobby in parliament in history. >> we want to see a coup. we

want to see a queue stretching from parliament all the way through whitehall . we want so through whitehall. we want so many of you to come that they will have to lock the doors of parliament, see? >> i mean, do you do you support that? do you think that we should be descending people on these kind of heated times to the point where parliament is going to have to lock its doors? no, no, no, i i mean, i, i no, no, no, i don't i mean, i, i do— no, no, no, i don't i mean, i, i do believe that people have a right demonstrate and they've right to demonstrate and they've always outside always demonstrated outside parliament were when parliament when there were when there are emotions that are very important to them. >> and that can be brexit, that i can remember a disability motion that that you had wheelchairs absolutely blocking up . i think that's right. up. i think that's right. i think that sort of rhetoric really doesn't help. and i think if we're talking about lowering the temperature , um, that, that, the temperature, um, that, that, that, that just doesn't. and i think people just get carried away. >> i agree with that. >> i agree with that. >> and i respect and admire the labour experience of trying to

get past the corbyn era, which in part featured, of course, john mcdonnell, who went through talking about direct action against tory mps to saying tory mps shouldn't be able to walk down the street, um, which is, i mean, in retrospect, a absolutely ghastly thing for somebody to say about our mps, given what's happened to some of our mps in the last parliament to saying about esther mcvey, we should lynch the b word. i mean, so you know , um, but of course so you know, um, but of course that's labour past. i do wonder too, about people like the deputy leader of the labour party, rayner, calls party, angela rayner, who calls tory mps scum. you know, perhaps you feel comfortable going you feel more comfortable going and people outside their and abusing people outside their house , um, shouting and house or, um, shouting and screaming at outside their screaming at them outside their workplace. you think they are workplace. if you think they are scum and you've been encouraged to and think of them to call them and think of them as scum. to call them and think of them as �*yeah. tell me i'm interested >> yeah. tell me i'm interested in that point, the viewer >> yeah. tell me i'm interested in thustyoint, the viewer >> yeah. tell me i'm interested in thust made the viewer >> yeah. tell me i'm interested in thust made aboute viewer >> yeah. tell me i'm interested in thust made about takingzr >> yeah. tell me i'm interested in thust made about taking the has just made about taking the temperature down by actually stopping these , these marches. stopping these, these marches. where are you on that? uh, another person who was speaking out today as well was , uh, dawn

out today as well was, uh, dawn butler. let's see what concerns she was raising . she was raising. >> speaker i've had to seek extra police support this weekend due to the far right abuse that i have suffered. uh, in spired and unleashed in part by the conspiracy theory , the by the conspiracy theory, the racist, islamophobic and anti—muslim hate peddled by members for ashfield , fareham members for ashfield, fareham and southwest norfolk does not name members those names. >> see . >> see. >> see. >> so i mean, there you're heanng >> so i mean, there you're hearing the essentially the far right being blamed for the rising tensions. alex >> well, i mean, it is um, whilst i did see tommy robinson said he was going to mount a counter march and i'll be interested to see if the mayor of london has the same laissez faire attitude about such a march as he does about the current marches. um, do think current marches. um, i do think that obvious that this is that it's obvious that this is not with the far right on not to do with the far right on the streets in the uk at the moment. it has been in the past, and may well again in the and it may well be again in the future, but at the moment the

issue in our capital is driven by those not just who are concerned what's happening concerned about what's happening in face of in gaza in the face of palestinians, those who want palestinians, but those who want to death of jews to call for the death of jews and know go up and and you know and ask, go up and ask in the street, are ask people in the street, are you and forth. and you jewish? and so forth. and that's where the concern is. and to say anything otherwise is not only pretend to the only to pretend to not see the obvious. it's betrayal of the obvious. it's a betrayal of the public, betrayal of public, and it's a betrayal of the you've been elected the public. you've been elected to serve. if you're in that house, uh, couple of people house, uh, a couple of people making point as well, that making the point as well, that all of this, these goings making the point as well, that all whether these goings making the point as well, that all whether it's these goings making the point as well, that all whether it's alliese goings making the point as well, that all whether it's all of; goings making the point as well, that all whether it's all of the ings on, whether it's all of the anfics on, whether it's all of the antics went on last week antics that went on last week with storming out and all with people storming out and all the votes and all the rest of it and marches and all the and all the marches and all the rest it, people are getting rest of it, people are getting in with me and saying, but in touch with me and saying, but none of this is going to make a blind bit of difference. >> situation in gaza anyway. >> the situation in gaza anyway. scarlett. that's what scarlett. well that's what i mean. >> i really, really >> i feel really, really strongly about what happened in parliament strongly about what happened in parliamethat there three actually that there were three political parties, none of whom put first. right? don't put gaza first. right? i don't think don't i don't think i don't think, i don't think i don't think, i don't think the snp, i don't think laboun think the snp, i don't think labour, the labour, i don't think the tories, them covered tories, none of them covered themselves glory. i thought

themselves in glory. i thought they were all poor and they were all pretty poor and actually what, what i'm not sure what make, what a difference it would make, but but given that the but but it given that the unanimity actually in uh, israel uh, about gaza, we should have the whole house saying something. well, we're going to carry that conversation on because sir lindsay hoyle, of course, promised, didn't he, the snp an emergency debate on this topic. >> anyway , long story short, >> anyway, long story short, that's now not going to happen. the snp really happy the snp are really not happy about do we need another about that. do we need another debate on this topic? do we need a proper vote on whether or not there a ceasefire? there should be a ceasefire? tell and i'll see

hi there. i'm michelle dewberry with you till seven. alex dean and scarlett mccgwire remain alongside us. kenneth says . alongside us. kenneth says. michelle, look, let's be clear. the parliament cannot stop this war. there is no point in having these nick says,

these demos. nick says, michelle, if 20,000 football fans turned up on parliament square, the police would have the batons out in seconds . uh, the batons out in seconds. uh, you're absolutely right. i agree with that, karen, says michelle, we do not need another ceasefire vote. end of story . look, so, vote. end of story. look, so, sir lindsay hoyle, he promised the snp an emergency debate on this topic. that's now not going ahead. uh, stephen flynn, he's very angry about that , sir. very angry about that, sir. >> alex, before the break, scarlett said that none of the main none of the parties had put gaza first. and here's something i very rarely say . to be gaza first. and here's something i very rarely say. to be fair to the snp , i think might have the snp, i think they might have been desirous of claiming that they tried to. and the answer is we'll never know if they were going to or not because of what lindsay hoyle did at. and it's ironic, really, because the left is trying to have its cake and eat it on the one hand, they say any suggestion of islamist threats or islamist stuff threats or islamist taking stuff over anderson, over is outrageously anderson, you're other over is outrageously anderson, you'rethere's other over is outrageously anderson, you'rethere's such other over is outrageously anderson, you'rethere's such a other over is outrageously anderson, you'rethere's such a serious hand, there's such a serious islamist threat that have to islamist threat that mps have to have protection, and indeed we should the nature of should change the nature of parliamentary should change the nature of par|nature ary should change the nature of par|nature of!

should change the nature of par|nature of parliamentary the nature of parliamentary rules facilitate people being rules to facilitate people being able to something for able to debate something for fear of their lives. seems fear of their lives. it seems to me can't square those me you can't square those things, whatever things, but whatever happened last the last week and whatever the rights and of that, to rights and wrongs of that, to deny snp again today seems deny the snp again today seems absolutely extraordinary to me. he would say. >> he would basically say , oh, >> he would basically say, oh, it's he thinks the it's because he thinks the government basically to government is basically going to table debate. table a different debate. perhaps even tomorrow. but it's not voting well. and as i said at the start of the programme, it's about 80 people now are tabled, no tabled, a motion of no confidence where are you confidence in him. where are you on all, scarlett? on it all, scarlett? >> i think he can't win. on it all, scarlett? >> i think he can't win . i mean, >> i think he can't win. i mean, i think i think from the minute that that labour said , oh, why that that labour said, oh, why don't you change the rules that lindsay hoyle couldn't win ? i lindsay hoyle couldn't win? i mean, should he go then? i think that if they've lost confidence with him, he has. i look, i don't know him, but i think he's a very, very decent guy . a very, very decent guy. >> we don't need to know him. he's allowed british democracy to be affected either because he was trying to make life easy for keir starmer, or because he was

allowing, um, extreme artists to threat , make allowing, um, extreme artists to threat, make threats to change democracy . yeah, yeah, yeah. no, democracy. yeah, yeah, yeah. no, look, that's right or wrong, what he what he did was wrong. >> i mean, there's no question is it's up to the mps, isn't it? if enough of them say go, he's going to have to go and that's what's going to happen. >> we can all have our views about what he did. in the end, it just it seems to me enough of a mass of mps have said they no longer have confidence in him and take that seriously. and they take that seriously. they often. we're they don't do this often. we're not of parliaments not like lots of parliaments where tear down their where they tear down their speakers all the time. they very rarely and the last rarely do this, and the last time was done with mike time it was done with mike martin, they it in this same martin, they did it in this same way, day motion way, signing an early day motion and currently on nudging and the edm currently on nudging 80. 80 members the house of 80. 80 members of the house of commons been signed a commons has been signed by a majority, not all, of majority, if not all, of the snp. majority snp. the majority party in scotland. to me he's scotland. it seems to me he's holed below the waterline. >> there you go, sheila, says michelle of the michelle at the start of the programme you was debating michelle at the start of the programior you was debating michelle at the start of the programior not| was debating michelle at the start of the programior not serving bating michelle at the start of the programior not serving mpsig whether or not serving mps should have their own show, she

says say i for one, says can i just say i for one, think yes, they definitely should. watching them. think yes, they definitely shotsays, watching them. think yes, they definitely shotsays, uh, watching them. think yes, they definitely shotsays, uh, craigvatching them. think yes, they definitely shotsays, uh, craig says,ng them. think yes, they definitely shotsays, uh, craig says, i'm hem. she says, uh, craig says, i'm a law abiding working citizen. i personally not agree with the personally do not agree with the right to protest. protesting should at elections should be done only at elections with pen . blimey, what would with a pen. blimey, what would you say to that, everyone, if you say to that, everyone, if you couldn't protest about anything at all? andy says. i concede that lee anderson's words have a bit words may have been a bit clumsy, but essentially what he had to was true . he's saying had to say was true. he's saying that a lot of people are basically taking lee anderson's words twisting them order words and twisting them in order to their own political to push their own political agenda. to push their own political agenda . dean makes a good point . agenda. dean makes a good point. uh, he says, what about all those people that are marching for palestine ? then why ain't for palestine? then why ain't anybody marching for ukraine? uh, if people are really against unnecessary suffering, etc? i think that is a very interesting point. there the, um, the right to protest should only apply to protests about domestic policy. uh, says paul, anything that cannot be affected by protests on our streets should not affect shouldn't basically , uh, grant

shouldn't basically, uh, grant that same right to protest lots of people divided on whether or not these protests, um, should be able to go ahead or not. mal says. be able to go ahead or not. mal says . michelle, if anyone wanted says. michelle, if anyone wanted to stop the protest , you need to to stop the protest, you need to get the european, european police to come in and sort it out. they don't mess about with their water cannons. cor blimey , their water cannons. cor blimey, look, scarlet, that's all i've got time for alex. thank you. you too. thank you very much for your company. don't go you too. thank you very much for your company . don't go anywhere your company. don't go anywhere because next because nigel farage is up next night . a brighter outlook with night. a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. on. gb news. >> good evening. welcome to your latest gb news weather update with me, annie, from the met office. it could be quite a cold and foggy start for some areas tomorrow morning. we'll also see some pushing to the some rain pushing to in the north west. have got high north and west. we have got high pressure dominating for the rest of through of the day and through the night, do also have this night, but we do also have this northeasterly breeze and cold air, will a cold air, so it will be a cold evening and a cold night. in

fact , particularly where we're fact, particularly where we're exposed to a stronger winds fact, particularly where we're exposethe a stronger winds fact, particularly where we're exposethe farstronger winds fact, particularly where we're exposethe far southeast. 1ds fact, particularly where we're exposethe far southeast. but across the far southeast. but many areas will see a frost developing in inland rural areas . also, there's risk of some . also, there's a risk of some mist and particularly mist and fog, particularly across central and southeastern areas, where we have had quite a lot rain recently. it will be lot of rain recently. it will be a cold start tomorrow a very cold start tomorrow really could be down to minus three or four, but the far northwest frost will be more limited as some wet weather is arriving through course of arriving through the course of the will bring a the night. that will bring a damp start the day, damp start to the day, particularly for northern scotland, weather scotland, but that wet weather will southern will push into parts of southern scotland well as north wales, scotland as well as north wales, northern england. two will see some rain through some of that rain through tuesday afternoon further south and it should stay and east, so it should stay largely it will a largely dry, but it will be a bit of a cloudier day compared to today. the rain will sink into southeast over the into the southeast over the course of tuesday night to once it though, see it clears though, we'll see another night and clear another clear night and clear start wednesday potentially start to wednesday, potentially some fog. some further mist and fog. but then of rain then the next batch of rain arrives from the west this time. so into many western so pushing into many western areas of the through the areas of the uk through the morning and then further east later on in the day. but that

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gb news. >> good evening . should lee >> good evening. should lee anderson have been kicked out of the tory party? perhaps even more importantly , why are we more importantly, why are we obsessed today with islamophobia after the extraordinary and awful intimidate of members of parliament last week and continuing into the weekend , continuing into the weekend, have we inverted what the real truth of the situation is? de—banking now spreads to a battle of britain charity . where battle of britain charity. where will it ever end and who make better workers? people in their 20s or people in their 40s? you might find there are somewhat