gb news. way. a very good afternoon to you. >> it's 3 pm. welcome to the martin daubney show on gb news broadcasting. as ever, live from the heart of westminster. all across the uk. today we've got the very latest on the ongoing john lee anderson row as the home secretary calls on the red bull rottweiler to apologise. but he told me earlier this read my lips i am not apologising . my lips i am not apologising. we've got plenty more coming from lee anderson too. next we'll get the inside track on the royal family as prince william pulls out of an engagement due to a personal matter . what engagement due to a personal matter. what could that be about 7 matter. what could that be about ? i matter. what could that be about .7 i also have news of the extraordinary cost of policing the pro—palestine protests. is

25 million and rising as astonishing eye—watering bill should these marchers finally be stopped and the bbc has apologised to the family of the young person at the centre of the huge elle edwards controversy and that's all coming now, between now and 6:00. thank you forjoining me 6:00. thank you for joining me on the show. your company is always a pleasure. i've got so much to talk about today. lee anderson was in fine form when i spoke to him earlier. read my lips . i spoke to him earlier. read my lips. i am spoke to him earlier. read my lips . i am not spoke to him earlier. read my lips. i am not apologising. plenty more to say on sadiq khan and being called a racist and an islamophobic. i'll also have paul scully, tory mp in the studio. he's been forced to apologise after claiming areas of london and birmingham were no go zones. we all know what he meant, but he's been doing an apology . meant, but he's been doing an apology. unlike meant, but he's been doing an apology . unlike lee, anderson apology. unlike lee, anderson will have him in here in about

20 minutes time. get in touch with all the usual ways. email me gbviews@gbnews.com. but first it's me gbviews@gbnews.com. but first wsfime me gbviews@gbnews.com. but first it's time for your latest news headunes it's time for your latest news headlines with sophia wenzler. >> thanks, martin. good afternoon. it's 3:01. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom . wenzler in the gb newsroom. ministers are refusing to call a suspended tory mps comments islamophobic. the prime minister has reiterated his views , saying has reiterated his views, saying lee anderson's remarks about the london mayor were wrong because they conflated all muslims with islamist extremism. but he doesn't believe he's racist . the doesn't believe he's racist. the former deputy chair is refusing to apologise and maintain sadiq khan has lost control of london to a tiny minority of extremists . mr anderson says he's simply trying to highlight what he believes is the mayor's failure to tackle pro—palestine protests and the conservative party is facing more backlash after mp paul scully claimed there are no go areas in birmingham and east

london. the former minister made reference to areas with large muslim communities, which he says he now regrets. west midlands mayor andy street responded by saying westminster needs to stop the nonsense slurs . residents in the sparkhill area of birmingham have mixed views . views. >> there are some areas which are not good. i can't say the community name, but it is very, very hard to live for the engush very hard to live for the english people , especially for english people, especially for engush english people, especially for english people, especially for english people and the hindus of our indian community. >> no, i wouldn't say it's a no go zone. everyone here is friendly. they're welcoming, it's lively . people will ask you it's lively. people will ask you how your day is and how you are. >> like everyone is just so welcoming. >> i just i wouldn't say it's a no go zone. [10 90 zone. >> no go zone. >> it's a lie. >> i've lived for here three years. i've had no trouble at all. it's fine. honestly, it is the best place, i think, in birmingham. honestly meanwhile ,

birmingham. honestly meanwhile, all mps are warning protests are putting unsustainable pressure on police resources. >> they're calling on the government to give more support as demonstrations continue over the israel—gaza war. across party committee found that policing the protests between the 7th of october and the 17th of december last year cost forces more than £25 million. the bbc has apologised to the family embroiled in the huw edwards scandal, over the way their complaint was handled, and it follows, claims the news presenter paid for explicit photos of a teenager. a review into how non—editorial complaints are handled identified a number of failures and says there's a need for greater consistency when it comes to addressing concerns . comes to addressing concerns. the report found the initial complaint about edwards was not locked on the relevant case management system , so could not management system, so could not be seen by senior figures . an be seen by senior figures. an 18th century pub that was destroyed in a suspected arson attack in the west midlands is set to be rebuilt. the crooked

house was demolished two days after the fire last august. an enforcement notice has now been issued against the owners for its unlawful demolition and local authorities are ordering it to be rebuilt back to its original state under water. experts who supported the search for nicola bulley are joining the operation to find a toddler in leicester. two year old xylo maruti siva fell into the river soar nine days ago while out with his family. police say the search area is being widened with teams checking various points along the river. the prince of wales has been forced to pull out of an event due to a personal matter . the queen personal matter. the queen camilla, led the royal family dunng camilla, led the royal family during a memorial for king constantine of greece. prince william was due to deliver a reading at the service for the late monarch, who was his godfather. kensington palace didn't , but confirmed didn't elaborate, but confirmed the princess of wales, whose recovering from abdominal surgery the king surgery is doing well. the king also missed the service as he continues treatment for cancer and the hs2 project . it has

and the hs2 project. it has reached a major milestone with a tunnelling machine completing its ten mile journey under the chiltern hills . the 2000 tonne chiltern hills. the 2000 tonne piece of equipment , nicknamed piece of equipment, nicknamed florence, was greeted with cheers from hundreds of workers in buckinghamshire who witnessed it break through . it was it break through. it was launched in may 2021 near rickmansworth in hertfordshire. the machine dug one of a pair of tunnels that will be used for trains travelling between london and birmingham and to d—day. veterans have described the honour of having their names added to a memorial wall in portsmouth, british veterans stanford and john roberts were presented with their plaques today before they were added to the wall. a total of 13 names of normandy veterans will be added to the wall as portsmouth becomes the uk's official host to mark 80 since d—day. to mark 80 years since d—day. later this year. and for to mark 80 years since d—day. later this year . and for the later this year. and for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. common alerts now it's back to . martin. thank you

sophia. >> well what another hugely dramatic day in politics. and of course we start day five of the controversy triggered by lee anderson's comments about islamists on this show on friday afternoon. and now home secretary james cleverly has begun the most high ranking conservative to minister call for lee anderson to apologise as well. anderson refused to speak to reporters this morning, but he did speak to me. more of that in a minute. and he has, of course, also refused to say sorry for claiming that islamists had got control of the mayor of london, sadiq khan. but james cleverly has backed rishi sunak, the prime minister has made the position of the party clear . clear. >> he's asked lee to apologise and lee didn't apologise, which is why the party whip has been withdrawn. i think lee should apologise. what he said wasn't accurate . it wasn't fair .

apologise. what he said wasn't accurate . it wasn't fair. um, accurate. it wasn't fair. um, but the chief whip and the prime minister have made the party position absolutely clear on this . this. >> well, this is getting our juices flowing here in the studio, and i'm joined by our political editor, chris hope . political editor, chris hope. chris. day five. we were joking about it a moment ago, but this is rolling and rolling and rolling . james cleverly weighing rolling. james cleverly weighing in, saying that he should apologise. i speak to lee, spoke to anderson this morning. he to lee anderson this morning. he said quite said my thoughts are quite simple , martin. the liberal simple, martin. the liberal democrats deaf . so read democrats must be deaf. so read my lips. i am not apologising. >> he's mentioned the lib dems of course, because they've put down edm. a motion in parliament like a petition that mps then sign and try and get get, get him to apologise and put pressure on him to give his remarks. he's not going to say sorry, was sitting this sorry, he was sitting in this chair last night for the interview patrick christys interview with patrick christys and news very and me for gb news made very clear he's nowhere clear he's going nowhere apologising. he going? apologising. where is he going? and those remarks by james cleverly are politically tone deaf hinckley for the situation because hinting heavily

because he's hinting heavily that might join reform . that he might join reform. that's what happened in the interview night. and james interview last night. and james cleverly just say, say sorry or what? well there's no way he's saying sorry. so i think they're pushing anderson a pushing anderson into a difficult made in difficult choice to be made in coming days in my view. >> and choice i think now >> and that choice i think now is a high stakes poker game. and thatis is a high stakes poker game. and that is either take me back on my terms . lee would say that to my terms. lee would say that to the conservative party and i will secure the red wolf, or he's massively amongst he's massively popular amongst a lot those first timers, lot of those first timers, those 2019 afraid , made chris of 2019 ers, afraid, made chris of losing their seats at the next election. they see as the election. they see him as the brick in the red wall holding it together. or could there be a spectacular defection . spectacular defection. >> and it would be spectacular. the speculation already. he may cross the floor in a house tomorrow. i think for me the interview again with patrick christys last night and me for gb news was him threatening, saying to the whips, come on, you know, i knew. i said my language was clumsy, but i'm not going to apologise to the labour mayor london. i you know, mayor of london. i you know, i would have said things

differently. suella differently. and if i suella braverman similar braverman says said similar words telegraph last week words in the telegraph last week didn't about the issue of didn't she, about the issue of islamism. they islamism. but instead they they've doubling they've really doubling down in over number 10. ithink they've really doubling down in over number 10. i think it's over in number 10. i think it's a mistake they're making there because could force to because they could force him to move. goes, he's he's move. and if he goes, he's he's the red wall made flesh. to quote the bbc's nick robinson, the red wall made flesh. to quoteheie bbc's nick robinson, the red wall made flesh. to quotehe tosbc's nick robinson, the red wall made flesh. to quotehe to move nick robinson, the red wall made flesh. to quotehe to move across»binson, the red wall made flesh. to quotehe to move across the ;on, were he to move across the floor, it would be a floor, then it would be a symbolic , a symbolic symbolic fissure, a symbolic breaking. think , of this breaking. i think, of this southern tory party with southern based tory party with its northern red wall. >> that's right. and suella braverman has come out and backed lee anderson. we urgently need to focus now on the big problem, how to tackle islamist extremism uk. the extremism in the uk. the conservative petition in conservative post petition in for to be let back for lee anderson to be let back into the conservative party is now topped. i think 12,000 and we have a mexican standoff. >> we do a senior tory mp brexiteer told me recently that today and is 50 over 50 to join reform. i mean this is big stuff. i think for tory party, if they start and then the big the language being used now in the language being used now in the party or mps is a word cross oven the party or mps is a word cross

over. what that means is if they cross over in the polls, if reform starts to poll more than than the party, it could be than the tory party, it could be a full blown crisis. than the tory party, it could be a fllet's)wn crisis. than the tory party, it could be a fllet's play:risis. than the tory party, it could be a fllet's play chess moves ahead. >> let's play chess moves ahead. just a bit of fun about what could if that happened. could happen if that happened. if the tories don't back down, which seems increasingly likely. and if lee refuses to apologise, which seems increasingly likely, and he does cross to reform, what then ? a by—election? what then? a by—election? >> a yes. well they'll be pressuring him to call one because normally you do have to call a by—election. you don't always have to do it. and arguably we're getting quite close to the general election, certainly three months out from an don't need an election. you don't need to call by—election an call another by—election if an mp example if you're mp dies, for example, if you're three when the three months out from when the election is going to be so, so really the deadline for any any of by elections of this more by elections is probably so 3 or probably june july time. so 3 or 4 months away. so window for 4 months away. so the window for opportunity mr hanson wants opportunity if mr hanson wants to leave and he calls , he's not to leave and he calls, he's not confirming not confirming anything but not denying then denying anything either. then the to move is in the the period to move is in the next 3 or 4 months. >> and richard tice has been

probed this. today on probed on this. a lot today on the also keeping his the media. he's also keeping his cards to his chest, but cards close to his chest, but he's doing more than that. >> he said he turned down two choices to join him. i mean, some of us would find that quite surprising. you'd thought some of us would find that quite slyou're g. you'd thought some of us would find that quite slyou're a you'd thought some of us would find that quite slyou're a party thought some of us would find that quite slyou're a party with thought some of us would find that quite slyou're a party with zerought some of us would find that quite slyou're a party with zero mps, if you're a party with zero mps, you but apparently you may want to, but apparently he turned down requests to he has turned down requests to join two mps. join by two mps. >> astonishingly, >> so, astonishingly, for somebody in the cold as lee somebody out in the cold as lee anderson is , unusually, he's anderson is, unusually, he's holding a lot of cards. >> he is rather. >> he is rather. >> i mean, he's important to the party. he's someone who likes campaigning for the tory party. he is spending a lot of his weekends at, uh, southern tory constituencies explaining what the red wall is , why people in the red wall is, why people in stoke, why people in ashfield are the same as people in, in, in guildford or dorking, why they are supporting the conservative party. and he's been an object of some fascination for the grassroots, for the southern based tory party and if he was to pick up his toys and march off to reform, it would be disaster. >> okay, sukh, but chris, stick around because there's been lots more controversy today.

more tory controversy today. and one scully, one of their mps, paul scully, has said there are no go zones in london and in birmingham. he'll join me in the studio in just a few minutes time. chris and i will give him a good old grilling, and there's plenty of coverage story on our coverage of this story on our website news. and you've website, gb news. com and you've helped make the fastest helped to make it the fastest growing website in growing national news website in the so thank you very the country. so thank you very much. now to big royal story. this time it's prince william in the in the headlights . and the in the headlights. and prince william has pulled out of a memorial service due to a personal matter. and let's get all the latest details now from our royal correspondent, cameron walker. cameron welcome to the show . so prince william has show. so prince william has pulled out of an engagement. and of course, that sets people wondering as to what the reason is . is. >> yeah, completely unexpected as well . martin. this a very as well. martin. this was a very important engagement for all members the royal family. it members of the royal family. it was the memorial service in windsor, saint george's chapel for the late king constantine of greece, who was prince william's godfather. prince william was a

mentor to reading and be his name was therefore printed in the order of service, and it was around 45 minutes before the service was meant to start this morning that kensington palace informed us that prince william would no longer attend due to a personal matter. now they're keeping pretty tight lipped as to what that personal matter is, as that the princess of as i'm told that the princess of wales is doing well, so we wales is still doing well, so we don't need to panic about that one then. i'm also told that prince william's absence is nothing do with his majesty. nothing to do with his majesty. the health, either. the king's health, either. remember, king charles is not carrying out public engagements at due to his cancer at the moment due to his cancer diagnosis, but of course it's got everyone speculating as to what this could be for prince william. there's no suggestion it is a health concern, but of course, you've got this backdrop of all these other health problems with various members of the royal it's also the royal family. it's also highlighting the fragility of a slimmed down monarchy, because it that only queen it shows that only queen camilla, of the most senior british royals, was in attendance today at this service

. i am assured, though, or at least i understand that prince william's future engagements are unaffected by his absence today, so hopefully that's a little bit of reassurance. there from palace sources. but nonetheless a bit of a tricky situation for the palace. >> okay, thank you very much for that update. cameron walker, now tory mp paul scully has been criticised by senior conservative politicians for saying there are no go zones in parts of london and birmingham and i'll talk to him all about that soon and you will not want to miss it. a huge apology more controversy around racism and islamophobia in the conservative party. two episodes now in one week. i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel

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unpredictable by—election in a long time . long time. >> you're not a big fan. you should be celebrating. >> i slept during it. you know they'll be there for every second of it, right through from midnight thursday on gb news, britain's election . britain's election. channel >> welcome back. it's 319. you're watching or listening to martin daubney on gb news. now later in the show, i'll tell you why the bbc has finally had to say sorry. but before that, on thursday, one of the most controversial by elections in recent history will be taking place as the rally will appear on the ballot paper as a labour party candidate. but the party, of course, has withdrawn its support for mr ali after an anti semitism row our north west of england reporter, sophie reaper has been to the town . has been to the town. >> once home to what was believed to be the world's

biggest cotton mill, believed to be the world's biggest cotton mill , rochdale biggest cotton mill, rochdale was a powerhouse of britain's industrial revolution , but now industrial revolution, but now those temples of this town's former glory lay empty or destroyed. a forgotten memory of decades gone by. i in the town centre. >> it's a similar story. >> it's a similar story. >> despite investment and attempts at development, many of the shops remain shuttered and run down. in the past few weeks alone , what was once a thriving alone, what was once a thriving bar and restaurant right at the heart of the town centre has been forced to close its doors for good. as for the people of this town , it seems that right this town, it seems that right now optimism, although not complete gone, is pretty thin on the ground. if you had one word to describe rochdale as it is right now, what would it be? say scruffy? >> disgraceful . >> disgraceful. >> disgraceful. >> underfunded? >> underfunded? >> challenging . >> challenging. >> challenging. >> trying. >> trying. >> ridiculous. dump with a population of just over 220,000

people, there are lots of voices to be heard here in rochdale. >> but what exactly are those voices going to be asking of their new mp to be? >> to start with, the records are a complete disgrace . it's are a complete disgrace. it's the potholes in every borough you're going in rochdale . you're going in rochdale. they're just a disgrace. they need sorting. >> i would like to see the new mp , um fight for rochdale in mp, um fight for rochdale in parliament. money >> it's the only thing that will change the town. >> knock the town down and start. start rebuilding it like bury is . things are all over it bury is. things are all over it was one of the richest towns in the country at one time. >> it's one of the poorest now. >> it's one of the poorest now. >> rochdale has some nice areas and we get a lot of bad press, but i do think they could do better . better. >> on thursday, voters in rochdale will head to the polls . rochdale will head to the polls. but no matter who they choose as their new mp , it's clear that

their new mp, it's clear that their new mp, it's clear that the people of this town feel it's the people of this town feel wsfime the people of this town feel it's time for something to be done. it's time for something to be done . sophie reaper gb news is . done. sophie reaper gb news is. >> and all eyes will be on rochdale and here are the candidates standing in that rochdale by—election they are azhar ali, labour. mark coleman, independent simon danczuk reform uk ian donaldson, liberal democrat paul ellison, conservative. george galloway, the workers party of britain, michael howarth, independent william howarth , also william howarth, also independent. guy otten of the green party. raven rodent sebby's corner, the official monster raving loony party and david tully, who is also standing as an independent. now. sacks former independent chief inspector of borders and immigration david neil, has told the home affairs committee i was sacked for doing my job and it follows his dismissal from the role last week by home secretary james cleverly. and this comes as the home secretary is leading

an international push to address global migration in a major speech today . well, during a two speech today. well, during a two day visit to new york, james cleverly will outline how tackling global migration can only be met with international action to reform migration policy. lots to go through there and join us now to discuss it is and join us now to discuss it is an expert gb news home and security editor mark white. mark, welcome to the show. it's been too long. let's start with mr cleverly . global migration been too long. let's start with mr cleverly. global migration . mr cleverly. global migration. so it needs global solutions . so it needs global solutions. but they can't even sort migration coming over the channel. how can they sort global migration mark. >> well indeed i mean he is in his speech in new york telling those that are gathered to listen to him that britain is leading the way when it comes to migration policy . leading the way when it comes to migration policy. some might beg to differ, given what we've seen in terms of the continuing channel crisis . the government channel crisis. the government point out that it's 36% down the

number of small boat migrants arriving last year. those we've spoken to throughout last year and into this year have been quite adamant that the reason the numbers are down is due to the numbers are down is due to the atrocious weather conditions in the channel throughout most of last year. the government denies that , though they say denies that, though they say that last year was no worse than the year before for weather conditions. but they can say what they like. it's what the migrants on the other side of the channel tell us. that's important at the end of the day, because that's clearly what's factoring into their decision to come across. but on this issue, i think martin offered more global approach. what he's saying to that audience in new york is that it needs the kind of approach that there is in terms of the international community coming together around the climate crisis. that same resolve needs to be brought to bear with regard to the migrant crisis . and of course, that's crisis. and of course, that's

not necessarily going to be as popular a cause, uh, amongst many of the elites around the world, i would say, and let's turn now to the matter of david neil, an astonishing story. >> see his guy that spoke out about the home office claiming that 25% of those coming over on care visas mark were abusing the system. they were simply going to other sectors, if even going there at all. he then spoke about people on private jets . s about people on private jets. s not coming through and he was dramatically sacked within hours of putting this out. now he was saying today he was simply sacked for telling the truth . sacked for telling the truth. >> uh, yes. it was always going to be very interesting to hear what the former independent chief inspector of borders and immigration, effectively the watchdog for borders and immigration, would have to say following that decision to relieve him of his job, to sack

him for leaks to the press. well, in that evidence before the home affairs select committee, david neil has has actually confirmed that , yes, he actually confirmed that, yes, he did indeed leak information to the daily mail with regard to that city airport story you were talking about. he said the reason that he decided to do that was born of frustration and a need to get information out there in the public realm that he felt was in the national interest. issues of , you know, interest. issues of, you know, potentially great concern. and of course , with regard to the of course, with regard to the city airport , that was an issue city airport, that was an issue of the smaller private jets coming into airfields around the country, and particularly here to city airport , with only about to city airport, with only about , uh, 20% or so of the higher risk individuals in terms of how they're categorised , uh, they're categorised, uh, actually being checked by border force officials. the home office has since argued that that report was inaccurate anyway,

that there is a data error in the way that things were compiled . and, uh, with regard compiled. and, uh, with regard to the statistics and those that were deemed to be higher risk were deemed to be higher risk were actually lower risk. however david neil says he stands by his story that was put in the, uh, daily mail. uh, he said that the decision to sack him was a shock. uh, he learned about it in the media and he was actually sacked. he says over teams , uh, rather than in person teams, uh, rather than in person . i think he's pretty angry at the whole affair. he's accused the whole affair. he's accused the government effectively of sitting on, uh, multiple reports. 14, i think reports that he submitted under the tenure of priti patel. suella braverman, of course , now, james braverman, of course, now, james cleverly , uh, 14 reports that cleverly, uh, 14 reports that have not yet yet been published by the home office . by the home office. >> and mark, you read my mind there because that is the next point . this is a story i feel

point. this is a story i feel that's still got a lot of legs. we were just showing footage there of david neil being cross—examine . and at that cross—examine. and at that meeting , um, cross—examine. and at that meeting, um, james daly barry north, conservative mp, was doing the questioning in this instance. but what could come out this this has all the hallmarks . aukus, don't you hallmarks. aukus, don't you think, mark of a person at the end of their tether, frustrated by the recalcitrance , the by the recalcitrance, the reluctance of the home office to listen to his truth, to put data out, which might upset the narrative and upset the applecart. yet he feels he was being almost gagged. mark, it feels like there could be a lot more explosive stuff yet to come out . out. >> well, i think you're right. and with regard to that, he actually explicitly said in his evidence to the home affairs select committee this afternoon that he believes that priti patel was suppressing, uh, reports that he had sent over dunng reports that he had sent over during her time as home secretary. he also, of course , secretary. he also, of course, uh, sent a report saying ,

secretary. he also, of course, uh, sent a report saying, uh, dunng uh, sent a report saying, uh, during suella bravermans time in that post as well, one of the reports, of course, highlight cited the conditions at manston in that processing centre there in that processing centre there in kent . uh, in that processing centre there in kent. uh, that in that processing centre there in kent . uh, that was actually in kent. uh, that was actually published. but that's a kind of report that he's talking about. we understand that at least a couple of the reports that are still to be published by the home office are reports on, uh, asylum accommodation conditions. so they have potentially, uh , so they have potentially, uh, you know, could be embarrassing reports for the government. there's no suggestion that, uh, as far as we know , or there is a as far as we know, or there is a suggestion from david neil, but we have no , uh, proof that the we have no, uh, proof that the government is deliberately , uh, government is deliberately, uh, sitting on these reports . it's sitting on these reports. it's to save their blushes . uh, but to save their blushes. uh, but it's true . the government it's true. the government acknowledges that since april of last year, 14 reports that have been submitted , uh, by this been submitted, uh, by this former , uh, chief inspector of

former, uh, chief inspector of immigration and borders have yet to be published. >> excellent as ever. thank you very much. home and security editor mark white on the debacle around david neil. he blew the whistle basically on the home office. and more to the point, what they weren't saying, what does he know when will this come out? why indeed , are the home out? why indeed, are the home office so reluctant to let us know? a senior officers data, the truth. who does the home office work for? who's running our immigration policy? who's running the country? is it the voters ? is it the government? is voters? is it the government? is it the home office? is it unelected bureaucrats? this story is like an intriguing murder mystery . we're going to murder mystery. we're going to have all of this as the details emerge throughout the week. it's a fascinating story. can't wait to get more of it. there's lots more to come later in the show. i'll you about another i'll tell you about yet another tory and this time they're tory row and this time they're revolting crackdown on revolting over a crackdown on gambling. the one conservative mp completely mp has called completely outrageous the first. it's time for your latest news headlines

with sophia wenzler. >> thanks , martin. it's 330. i'm >> thanks, martin. it's 330. i'm sophia wenzler le in the gb newsroom. your headlines. ministers are refusing to call a suspended tory mps comments islamophobic. the prime minister says lee anderson's comments were wrong because they conflated all muslims with islamist extremism . but rishi islamist extremism. but rishi sunak doesn't believe he's racist. the former deputy chair is refusing to apologise for criticising the london mayor and maintains sadiq khan has lost control of london to a tiny minority of extremists and the conservative party is facing more backlash after mp paul scully claimed there are no go areas in birmingham and east london. the former minister made reference to areas with large muslim communities, which he says he now regrets. west midlands mayor andy street responded by saying westminster needs to stop the nonsense slurs

. the crooked house pub, which was destroyed in a suspected arson attack in the west midlands, is set to be rebuilt. locals were outraged when it was demolished just two days after the fire last august . an the fire last august. an enforcement notice has now been issued against the owners for its unlawful demolition, with authorities ordering it to be restored to its original state within three years. an queen camilla has attended a memorial service for king constantine of greece, the prince of wales , who greece, the prince of wales, who was due to deliver a reading at the service, was forced to pull out due to a personal matter. kensington palace didn't elaborate but confirmed the princess of wales, who's recovering from abdominal surgery, is doing well . the king surgery, is doing well. the king also missed the service as he continues treatment for cancer and for the latest story, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. com slash alerts .

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been it started on been rolling, and it started on this show . the tory mp been rolling, and it started on this show. the tory mp and this very show. the tory mp and former for london, paul former minister for london, paul scully, there no go scully, has said there are no go areas in london and birmingham now. he specifically mentioned tower hamlets in east london and we've been there today and this is what people around there had to say to us when i moved to bow and bromley by bow, that particular area was very gang heavy. >> um , you get large numbers of >> um, you get large numbers of youth gangs and, um, if a particular people , um, it can be particular people, um, it can be very intimidating. >> it's a great community here. >> it's a great community here. >> it's a great community here. >> i think that you can't judge an area by how much opportunity people given. and i think people are given. and i think that, like, it just feels like fear mongering politician fear mongering from a politician who the area. who doesn't know the area. >> him to come down. >> i'd like him to come down. >> i'd like him to come down. >> and, know, could go >> and, you know, we could go for courier to face misty and for a courier to face misty and see how how he likes it. see how see how he likes it. i think he'd, you know, it'd be be surprised if he needs to get out of and, come and of westminster and, um, come and experience bit of real life experience a bit of real life down here. >> well, paul scally joins me now in the studio. in fact, you

were away there because were cursing away there because you've and you've been to brick lane and had of ruby times. had a load of ruby times. >> been i've curries there. >> i was in brick lane mosque not that long ago. >> i know the area really, really well. >> mean, that's not what i was >> i mean, that's not what i was talking writing off an talking about. writing off an entire area. >> let's go back in time. yeah what on earth were you thinking when no go zones? when you said no go zones? because everybody going because everybody is going to cut straight to the fact, especially mention especially when you mention tower you mean go tower hamlets. you mean no go zones it's zones specifically because it's a community the a muslim community that's the way interpreted. what on way it was interpreted. what on earth thinking? way it was interpreted. what on earth wasthinking? way it was interpreted. what on earth was totally]? way it was interpreted. what on earth was totally the >> which was totally the opposite actually. >> which was totally the oppso te actually. >> which was totally the oppso if actually. >> which was totally the oppso if i actually. >> which was totally the oppso if i you actually. >> which was totally the oppso if i you know, :tually. >> which was totally the oppso if i you know, the lly. >> which was totally the oppso if i you know, the fact >> so if i you know, the fact that i used that terms and i've used i spoken a lot about the need to use, uh, sensible language, i clearly didn't use the there uh, the right language. there uh, and why is that? because actually, it's a distraction from the direct opposite. actually, it's a distraction from the iirect opposite. actually, it's a distraction from the iirect tryingite. actually, it's a distraction from the iirect trying to say, >> what i was trying to say, which there are which is basically there are areas every city in the areas around every city in the country, frankly, which are which people are about which people are worried about going often going to, whether it's often based gangs handful of based around gangs or handful of idiots. that idiots. frankly that are threatening or intimidating or whatever like that. >> that does, if you >> and what that does, if you have an islamic gang , for have an islamic gang, for example, you had few years

example, as you had a few years ago in tower hamlets, hence the reference um, the muslim reference about, um, the muslim so—called muslim a few so—called muslim patrols a few years , some of the headlines years ago, some of the headlines around that basically meant that, were then that, um, people were then writing off into other communities, entire areas, which , as we've heard, is not the case. so i was trying to make the point that we can't have reasonable discourse because of, uh, because of we're giving vacuum , uh, to be filled by populists. >> but but but the no go you mentioned populist no go zones. donald trump said parts of london were no go zones in 2015. and then mayor boris johnson said that was ill informed and utter nonsense and that no go zone phrase in particular to muslim areas , it is specifically muslim areas, it is specifically a trigger and that's why i've apologised for the use of that phrase because, as i say , it's phrase because, as i say, it's it was inappropriate. >> it was done off the top of my head. >> uh, 7:05 in the morning. >> uh, 7:05 in the morning. >> i shouldn't have done it. uh, what it's done is meant to distract, know, for who? distract, you know, go for who? >> so who who can't go there? >> so what? i should have said.

>> so what? i should have said. >> what meant to say was that, >> what i meant to say was that, you there are areas in the you know, there are areas in the country, including in tower hamlets, including birmingham, country, including in tower hamlewhereluding birmingham, country, including in tower hamlewhere peopleiirmingham, country, including in tower hamlewhere peopleiirmworried where where people are worried about is it white about going into is it white people, people , asian, who people, black people, asian, who is, where? is, who can't go where? >> depends on, you >> well, it depends on, you know, any, any, any race? know, is it any, any, any race? >> there every city. >> there are every city. >> there are every city. >> you might have an area >> so you might have an area that's, has a handful of that's, that has a handful of black you might an black gangs. you might have an area lot of white gangs. area with a lot of white gangs. >> and, and was using about >> and, and i was using about the example of the muslim patrols. the example of the muslim pat the i said sparkhill >> the reason i said sparkhill in birmingham, actually meant in birmingham, i actually meant small because small heath nearby, uh, because as there, it was a lived as i was there, it was a lived experience of mine. >> when i was there, uh, a few years back, and was with a years back, and i was with a british bangladeshi friend, and actually get actually we were trying to get some the way to some cash on the way to somewhere, and, uh, he said, don't you out. i need to do don't you go out. i need to do this because you probably won't feel safe. >> just that >> and that's just that experience tainted experience that then has tainted my an area. my view of an area. >> i've just been just as >> so i've just been just as guilty in allowing that gap to be filled. >> need moderate >> and we need moderate discussion this. discussion of this. >> the fact that we're 24 >> so the fact that we're 24 hours yeah. hours later, yeah. >> about one rather >> talking about one word rather than the substantive debate that

we to have. we need to have. >> okay. shows the choice of language is important, isn't language is important, but isn't that you walked that another landmine you walked onto put out onto because you were put out there effect, jump on the there to, in effect, jump on the grenade what lee anderson had grenade of what lee anderson had said trying kind said you were trying to kind of calm fires, it were, and calm the fires, as it were, and you said, i've distanced myself from person number 10 from the person that number 10 recently felt suitable be recently felt suitable to, to be deputy party. lee deputy chair of the party. lee anderson said repeatedly anderson has said repeatedly said today will not said to me today he will not apologise and yet you have apologised. that the right apologised. was that the right thing apologised. was that the right thiryeah, absolutely. >> yeah, absolutely. >> yeah, absolutely. >> because you know what? >> it was because you know what? i want those substantial i want to have those substantial discussions and if there are people that are, um, you know, triggered and upset and offended by there are other by it, and there are other people agitating people that are agitating politically political politically for political reasons those kind of reasons and those kind of things, the substantive things, but the substantive people by it, people that are offended by it, let's rally from that and let's rally back from that and get to the substantive debate. >> what lee is doing is perpetuating this populist approach because by calling sadiq , you know, selling sadiq khan, you know, selling london to his mates, i think there was a clear dog whistle there was a clear dog whistle there that actually just totally there's things i can there that actually just totally there'at things i can there that actually just totally there'at sadiq things i can there that actually just totally there'at sadiq khan.is i can throw at sadiq khan. >> there's a big shopping list being that are being having mates that are islamist london

islamist and selling london to them, giving london over to them, or giving london over to them, or giving london over to them just isn't one of them. them, or giving london over to the ii just isn't one of them. them, or giving london over to thei don'tisn't one of them. them, or giving london over to the i don't think. 1e of them. them, or giving london over to thei don't think. well,them. them, or giving london over to thei don't think. well, iem. them, or giving london over to thei don't think. well, i was, >> i don't think. well, i was, we both here when we we were both here when we interviewed lee and when he said his was. think it's his mates, he was. i think it's been taken to mean the islamist and actual fact. we were talking about the protests, the about the protests, about the metropolitan police not policing it adequately, that was a conversation having conversation about london having lost that we lost control of debate that we need to have. it went off on, on a and now and now you a tangent. and now and now you and lee anderson seem to be at odds sort of slagging each odds and sort of slagging each other that the dignified odds and sort of slagging each other to that the dignified odds and sort of slagging each other to do?that the dignified thing to do? >> probably not. um, because actually write about the actually you write about the enforcement the policing enforcement and the policing of these exactly the these protests is exactly the kind conversation we should kind of conversation we should be having. the fact is that you have jewish communities that feel walking these >> um, walking around these protests and parts of town, you have, uh , muslim communities have, uh, muslim communities that obviously worried about that are obviously worried about this rhetoric and anti—muslim , this rhetoric and anti—muslim, um, uh, incidents are on the increase as well. >> and there's a whole load of people the middle thinking, people in the middle thinking, scratching their head, thinking, what is going on with scratching their head, thinking, what but is going on with scratching their head, thinking, what but if is going on with scratching their head, thinking, what but if politicians on with scratching their head, thinking, what but if politicians resile th this? but if politicians resile from that, moderate from that, from a moderate debate, out, then debate, but calling it out, then

, will be filled by , then it will be filled by populist rhetoric. >> sadiq khan, of course , is >> and sadiq khan, of course, is the page of today's the front page of today's evening it's like it's evening standard. it's like it's like his his fanzine, almost 25 points ahead. do you think what you said, um , is going to help you said, um, is going to help susan hall ? susan hall? >> uh, well, what i said today , >> uh, well, what i said today, may, i hope, is going to actually pull us back into a sensible debate . i hope that sensible debate. i hope that that, you know, i hear from susan the next few weeks , susan over the next few weeks, uh, um , about uh, more about, um, about communities, about, um, community based policing and these kind of things, rather than always saying that london is not safe, uh, because that doesn't send a message out to global london to investors and tourists coming into london tourists that coming into london as in the same way as well. so in the same way that, you know, i regret using the go that i can the word no go areas that i can walk a lot london walk around a lot of london without fear and enjoy what this greatest city in the world has to offer. >> to quickly ask you >> i want to quickly ask you about safety because, i mean, there's a lot of conversations about and you about mp safety and what you said. now, do you think that might you being safe? might affect you being safe? i don't know answer. don't know is the answer. >> i remember a years ago, >> i remember a few years ago,

you um, you know, you know, when, um, you know, beanng you know, when, um, you know, bearing in mind i've had two colleagues, uh, murdered the colleagues, uh, murdered on the streets, uh, in their constituency, uh, when i, a few years ago, when my partner, who i sur house, was i live with sur house, was worried about all this worried about having all this intrusive in. intrusive security put in. >> she saw me >> it was when she saw me googung >> it was when she saw me googling stab vests, that googling stab vests, uh, that she actually, need to she said, actually, we need to do this. so i've always been careful, i i won't step careful, but i but i won't step back from my duties being back from my duties about being out visible from my constituents. >> well, thank you for coming in. >> and do you regret getting involved in this conversation? i mean, well, actually, no, it's a really chris, really good point, chris, because know, because actually, you know, i said my choice of said i regret my choice of words, actually the bigger said i regret my choice of words, actually|ally the bigger said i regret my choice of words, actually isly the bigger said i regret my choice of words, actually is gettingigger regret actually is getting involved because another involved because i'm on another moderate gets lost moderate voice that gets lost and heart, though tells me otherwise. >> i need to stay involved. okay, scully, thank you for okay, paul scully, thank you for coming in and thank you for being thank you for being honest. and thank you for facing thanks for facing the music. thanks for your time. appreciate it. now, in few minutes time, our tour, in a few minutes time, our tour, the incredible costs of policing those pro—palestine protests £25 million can you adam million and rising. can you adam and eve but in and eve it? but first in a gb news innovation news series innovation britain. we're success of we're looking at the success of british around the british manufacturing around the country .

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generous, you pay the wages of 880 new nurses . well, 880 brand new nurses. well, what? i reckon you wouldn't spend it on is a security anneliese controversial, endless pro palestine protests because unbelievably, that's exactly how much wonga it's cost the metropolitan police. and that's just in four months since october 7. an astonishing. it's like a lottery win spent on these blooming protests. well, gb news reporter charlie peters joins me now. charlie, welcome to the show. an eye—watering amount of money. how on earth can this be justified? >> that's right. martin, up to potentially even £30 million across england and wales for the policing of these protests, with 18 million being allocated to the met police. the met police budget is over £4 billion and its budget is actually 25% of all of the policing budget of england and wales. so a very significant figure and you might say that 18 million isn't really a significant dent in that 4

billion figure, but there are plenty of teams across the met doing vital work that i imagine could do with that cash. and it's not just the resources that has concern . and the report, has concern. and the report, which has come out from the home affairs select committee, they said in their policing protest report that it's also the time off that police officers need some 4000 rest days cancelled to police. these protests in central london and the report has also been met with criticism from the campaign group. the campaign against anti—semitism, which said that it was disappointing they accept that. the report has noted the intimidation felt by many mps due to some of the protests we've witnessed since those october 7th terrorist attacks in israel . but the report, the israel. but the report, the campaign said , did not share the campaign said, did not share the same alarm felt by jewish communities . they noted that communities. they noted that some of the campaigns polling was held by the report and published, including that over half of british jews have

considered leaving britain since those protests starting taking place , but they did not include place, but they did not include other polling, which was submitted to the report , which submitted to the report, which found that 90% of jews avoided city centres in england and wales when they thought that major anti—israel protests were taking place. they also said that some 69% of british jews were afraid of displaying signs of their judaism. at this time , of their judaism. at this time, so they have alarm towards the intimidation felt by mps. so they have alarm towards the intimidation felt by mps . but intimidation felt by mps. but the campaign says they don't share that same perspective towards british jews. for their part , diana johnson, the chair part, diana johnson, the chair of the committee, said that our laws on matters of incitement of violence and hate crime and glorifying proscribed terror groups must be applied without fear or favour. >> okay, we have to leave it there. thank you very much, charlie peters. now james cleverly has waded into the controversy surrounding lee anderson. called on the anderson. he's called on the home secretary apologise . home secretary to apologise. guys. but me tell you this

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person at the centre of the huw edwards controversy. loads to get through and that's all coming up in your next hour. welcome to the show. it's always an absolute pleasure to have your company. an absolute pleasure to have your company . we've already had your company. we've already had a cracking first hour of the show. lee anderson said. read my lips. there's no way i'm going to apologise any time soon. we have paul scully, conservative mp in the hot seat a moment ago. he's in the hot water this time for talking about no go areas in parts of london and birmingham . parts of london and birmingham. he apologised. lee didn't. parts of london and birmingham. he apologised. lee didn't . who he apologised. lee didn't. who do you think was right? already got loads and loads of emails in saying they think paul was wrong to backtrack and right for lee anderson never to apologise and never to back down, never to say sorry. that's what many of you think the country needs. get in touch gb views at gb news. com with your thoughts on a read out a bunch of the best. but first,

it's a bunch of the best. but first, wsfime a bunch of the best. but first, it's time for your latest news headunes it's time for your latest news headlines with polly middlehurst i >> -- >> martin, thank you and good afternoon to you. well, the top story from the gb newsroom today is that government ministers are refusing to call a suspended tory mps comments islamophobic. >> the prime minister has reiterated his views, saying lee anderson's remarks about the london mayor were wrong because they conflated all muslims with islamist extremism . islamist extremism. >> but he said he doesn't believe lee anderson is racist. the former deputy chair of the tory party is refusing to apologise and maintain sadiq khan has lost control of london to a tiny minority of extremists. mr anderson says he's trying to highlight what he believes is the mayor's failure to tackle pro—palestine protests , and the conservative party is facing more criticism today after tory mp paul scully claimed there are no go areas in both birmingham and in east london. >> the former minister made

reference to areas with large muslim communities. >> comments which he says he now regrets. west midlands mayor andy street responded by saying westminster needs to stop the nonsense slurs . mr scully admits nonsense slurs. mr scully admits he could have chosen his words better . better. >> the fact that i used that time and i've used, i spoken a lot about the need to use, uh, sensible language. i clearly didn't use the right language there. uh and why is that? because actually, it's a distraction from the direct opposite. what i was trying to say, which is basically there are areas around every city in the country, frankly, that are which people are worried about going to, whether it's a often based gangs a handful based around gangs or a handful of, idiots, frankly, that are of, of idiots, frankly, that are threatening or intimidating or whatever. that . whatever. like that. >> well, residents in birmingham appear to have mixed views on whether it's fair to describe the sparkhill area as a no go zone. >> there are some areas which are not good. i can't say the community name , but it is very,

community name, but it is very, very hard to live for the engush very hard to live for the english people, especially for engush english people, especially for english people, especially for english people and the hindus of our indian community. >> no, i wouldn't say it's a no go zone. everyone here is friendly. they're welcoming. see it's lively. people will ask you how your day is and how you are like. everyone is just so welcoming. i just, like. everyone is just so welcoming. ijust, i like. everyone is just so welcoming. i just, i wouldn't say it's a no go zone. it's lie. >> i've lived here for three years. i've had no trouble at all. it's fine. honestly, it is the best place, i think, in birmingham . honestly birmingham. honestly >> meanwhile, mps are warning that protests are putting unsum attainable pressure on police resourcing . they're calling on resourcing. they're calling on the government to give more support as demonstrations continue over the israel—gaza war. a cross—party committee found that policing protests between the 7th of october and the 17th of december last year cost police forces more than £25 million.

>> the bbc has apologised to the family caught up in the huw edwards scandal over the way their complaint was handled . their complaint was handled. >> it follows, claims the news presenter paid for explicit photographs of a teenager. a review into how non—editorial complaints are handled, identified a number of failures and says there's a greater need for consistency when it comes to addressing concerns . the report addressing concerns. the report found the initial complaint about huw edwards was not logged on to the relevant case management system , and so could management system, and so could not be seen by senior figures . not be seen by senior figures. an 18th century pub that was destroyed in a suspected arson attack in the west midlands is set to be reborn. built. the crooked house was demolished two days after the fire last august. an enforcement notice has now been issued against the owners for its unlawful demolition , and for its unlawful demolition, and the local authority's ordering it is rebuilt back to its original state . within three original state. within three years. underwater experts who supported the search for missing mum nicola bulley are now

joining the operation to find a toddler in leicester. two year old xylo maruziva fell into the river soar nine days ago while out with his family. police say the search area is being widened with teams checking various points along the river. the prince of wales has had to pull out of a royal event due to honour the memory of his godfather because of what's being described as a personal matter. instead queen camilla led the royal family during a memorial for king constantine of greece. prince william had been due to deliver a reading at the service for the late monarch. kensington palace hasn't elaborated but confirmed . named elaborated but confirmed. named the princess of wales, who's recovering from abdominal surgery, is doing well. the king also missed the service as he continues treatment for cancer. for the hs2 project has reached a major milestone today, with a great big tunnelling machine completing its ten mile journey under the chiltern hills. the

2000 tonne piece of equipment, nicknamed florence, was greeted with cheers as it broke through dirt and rock at the site in buckinghamshire today. it began its journey in may 2021 near rickmansworth , rickmansworth. oh rickmansworth, rickmansworth. oh goodness , i can't say it. goodness, i can't say it. rickmansworth in hertfordshire on completion it will be one of two tunnels used by trains travelling between london and birmingham . now two d—day birmingham. now two d—day veterans have described the honour of having their names added to a memorial wall in portsmouth . british military portsmouth. british military veterans stan ford and john roberts were presented with their plaques today , a total of their plaques today, a total of 13 names of normandy veterans will be added to the wall as portsmouth becomes the uk's official host to mark 80 years since the d—day landings later on this year. that's the news for the very latest stories . for the very latest stories. sign up to gb news alerts, scan the qr code on the screen or go to gb news. common alerts more

now from martin daubney. >> thank you pauline. now it really is all happening. let's start with day five of the controversy triggered by lee anderson's comments about islamists and london mayor sadiq khan on this show. at 5:00 on friday. still dominating the news agenda. now home secretary james cleverly has become the most high ranking tory minister to call for anderson to apologise is lee anderson refused to speak to reporters this morning. refused to speak to reporters this morning . we did speak to this morning. we did speak to me. i've got some more on that in a minute. and he has, of course, also refused to say sorry for claiming that islamists had got control of the mayor of london, sadiq khan. but james cleverly backed rishi sunak, the prime minister has made the position of the party clear . clear. >> he's asked lee to apologise and lee didn't apologise, which is why the party whip has been withdrawn. i think lee should

apologise. what he said wasn't accurate . it wasn't fair . apologise. what he said wasn't accurate . it wasn't fair. um, accurate. it wasn't fair. um, but the chief whip and the prime minister have made the party position absolutely clear on this . this. >> well, there we go. we have a mexican standoff. i'm joined now in the studio by our political edhon in the studio by our political editor, chris hope. chris. so lee anderson. absolutely adamant. you said to me earlier on today , read my lips. i am not on today, read my lips. i am not apologising. james cleverly doubung apologising. james cleverly doubling down on the tory party sentiment. you have to apologise. where is this going to go? >> it's just really thick . to go? >> it's just really thick. i think of the government not to recognise what lee anderson is saying you watch the saying here. if you watch the interview with patrick christys on and i was on his show last night and i was part that the, of that of part of that of the, of that of that interview, he was being very clear, lee anderson, that i wanted to try and get back in with the party. i joined in 2019. i and the symbol of the red wall, i'm not going to apologise, he said to sadiq khan. his words were clumsy. he's as far as can be. he's gone as far as he can be. he's gone as far as he can be. he think that what he was he does think that what he was

saying where he is, saying was broadly where he is, and people have and many people have been contacting agree with contacting gb news to agree with that, and yet then you have the home one of the most home secretary, one of the most senior in government, senior people in government, saying, can't saying, say sorry or you can't come anson going to come back. what's anson going to do apart from join the reform party? extremely tin eared party? it's extremely tin eared politics secretary. >> see, the that i've been >> see, the way that i've been reading on this is reading the runes on this is that lee would like to go back. but only on his own terms. that's looking increasingly unlikely home unlikely if you've got the home secretary saying, no, secretary wading in, saying, no, no, it to be on our no, no, it has to be on our terms. you know, i know terms. you know, lee, i know lee. the most likely outcome. now, what he's going to he's going to turn the table over and do something surprising and radical. >> we're all not surprising, which is probably completing his journey from to right of journey from left to right of british which would be british politics, which would be joining reform then joining the reform party then for that is a for rishi sunak, that is a disaster him because disaster for him because it looks like then lost touch looks like you then lost touch with person who symbolises with this person who symbolises the group there of the red wall, the group there of tory came from labour to tory mps who came from labour to the to the in the seats that came from labour to the tory party. >> lots leaked whatsapp party. >> lots from ed whatsapp party. >> lots from ed wipanicked messages from from panicked conservatives who see lee as

that linchpin , that foundation that linchpin, that foundation stone of the turmoil last time. >> over 50. if anderson >> it's 50 over 50. if anderson goes if he goes goes and joins and if he goes across, may well take a few across, he may well take a few with him. that's a problem. and then going an then we're going into an election two or or election with two or 3 or 4 reform mps fighting seats . reform mps fighting for seats. many mps think, well, i've many mps might think, well, i've got nothing to lose here. i'll get i'll get the focus of the reform party to win these seats. >> what putting >> what about putting the grenade some grenade and having some by elections advance of the elections in advance of the general and causing utter bedlam? >> for that is >> the deadline for that is probably july. you don't have by elections three months before a general which general election, which expecting in november. october time. a window of time. so there's a window of opportunity if the want to opportunity if the mps want to cause elections , to cause cause by elections, to cause difficulty the governing difficulty for the governing party, and that is that window is closing. party, and that is that window is cnow.]. party, and that is that window is cnow. we had scully in >> now. we had paul scully in the show a moment ago. the studio show a moment ago. he's water again about he's in hot water again about islamophobia. but unlike lee anderson, he's apologising for u—turn. >> yeah, he said sorry. i mean, he wasn't trying to get involved in a in a battle. he said there were no go areas, parts of birmingham and parts of london and that's a that's quite a kind

of the no go idea is a is a, you know, can can can trigger some people. and so probably for him he he was trying to he apologised. he was trying to explain i think what some of these were like. he these areas were like. and he used which is used language which is inappropriate. sorry. inappropriate. he said sorry. and talked to roshani ali. and he talked to roshani ali. other he tried to other local mps, and he tried to explain way. he's not really explain his way. he's not really someone who's meant to be on the right the now, and right of the party now, and i put it to him as soon as you start saying zones. start saying no go zones. >> and mentioned tower >> and you mentioned tower hamlets, the areas hamlets, you mentioned the areas of birmingham in question. this is said about is what donald trump said about london it was dismissed london in 2015. it was dismissed then boris johnson, then by boris johnson, then mayor ludicrous. found as it mayor as ludicrous. found as it became a right wing conspiracy theory played into and almost unwittingly. >> and that's why i think he's climbed down today. >> although a lot of people are getting in touch with us, has to be said today, chris, saying that they do recognise the no go areas towns it is. areas in their towns as it is. i read some those emails, no go areas are. >> that's the point. no no no no they are. >> but look, before we get into that, let's remind ourselves about for about what tory minister for london, paul scully said the

about what tory minister for londcearlier scully said the about what tory minister for londcearlier about/ said the about what tory minister for londcearlier about nonid the about what tory minister for londcearlier about nonid areas. show earlier about no go areas. here is because you know what? >> what i want to have those substantial discussions and if there people that are, um, there are people that are, um, you know, triggered and upset and offended by it, and there are other people that are agitating politically for political those kind political reasons and those kind of things, substantial of things, but the substantial people by it, people that are offended by it, let's rally back from that and get on to the substantive debate. doing is debate. what lee is doing is perpetuating this populist approach because by calling sadiq khan , you know, selling sadiq khan, you know, selling london to his mates, i think there was a clear dogwhistle there was a clear dogwhistle there that actually just totally there's loads i can there's loads of things i can throw sadiq khan there's throw out. sadiq khan there's a big shopping list being having mates that islamist and mates that are islamist and selling them, or selling london to them, or giving to them, said giving london over to them, said to there, chris, i said to to him there, chris, i said to him, though, you know, you're accusing anderson dog accusing lee anderson of dog whistle know, whistle politics, but you know, the theories around the conspiracy theories around no go zones in london? >> well, were dismissed as >> well, they were dismissed as that that, precisely, that in 2015. that, precisely, is the same of populism is the same sort of populism he's accusing lee but the he's accusing lee of. but the big question is , was he right to big question is, was he right to apologise? i guess he wants to be into the party. he'd be

be back into the party. he'd be faced with the same fate as lee if apologise. if he didn't apologise. >> i think it's >> that's right. i think it's not a fight he wanted to have. i think it was ill chosen. words at seven in the morning to bbc radio london. now he's spent radio london. and now he's spent the trying wind the rest of today trying to wind it i mean, i think, you it back in. i mean, i think, you know, was trying to say there know, he was trying to say there are some people feel are areas where some people feel uncomfortable, maybe in the capital in birmingham. but capital and in birmingham. but he to down that he didn't want to go down that route that he went down. >> a quick >> okay. let's have a quick look. early today we look. because early today we went about in tower went out and about in tower hamlets and sparkle in birmingham locals birmingham to find out if locals there that there were there thought that there were no go areas. 90 areas. >> go areas. >> i moved to bow and >> well, i moved to bow and bromley bow. that particular bromley by bow. that particular area very heavy. um, area was very gang heavy. um, you large of youth you get large numbers of youth gangs and, and um, for a particular people, um, it can be very intimidating. >> it's a great community here. >> it's a great community here. >> it's a great community here. >> i think that you can't judge an area by how much opportunity people are given. and i think that, it just feels like that, like, it just feels like fear mongering from a politician who area. who doesn't know the area. >> like him to come down. >> i'd like him to come down. and, know, could go for a and, you know, we could go for a curry at face to misty and see

how see how likes it. i think how see how he likes it. i think he'd you know, be be he'd you know, it'd be be surprised needs to get out surprised if he needs to get out of westminster come and of westminster and, um, come and experience a bit of real life down here because there are some areas are not good. areas which are not good. >> i can't say the community name, it is very, very hard name, but it is very, very hard to live for the english people , to live for the english people, especially for english people. and the hindus. >> no, i wouldn't say it's a no go zone. >> everyone here is friendly. they're welcoming. see, it's lively. people will ask you how your day is and how you are like. everyone is just so welcoming . welcoming. >> it's a lie. >> i've lived here for three years. i've had no trouble at all. it's fine. honestly, it is the best place, i think in birmingham . honestly birmingham. honestly >> and then that topic paul is saying don't back—pedal paul. there are no go areas and an email here. chris, just to read to you, uh, wouldn't it be? this is jim saying, wouldn't it be a shocker now if lee and other red wall mps left the tories and crossed the to house reform? >> yeah , it would be a shocker

>> yeah, it would be a shocker for westminster , a shocker for for westminster, a shocker for downing street. but i can, i can see why it would happen. i think he's been pushed into a corner here. but unless the whips move quickly may go, go that way. quickly it may go, go that way. >> okay chris, thank for >> okay chris, thank you for that dramatic scenes. and of course be covering this course we'll be covering this all way. anything that all the way. anything new that comes putting you our comes will be putting to you our beloved now. gb news. we beloved viewers now. gb news. we love the stories that love to cover the stories that really to people, and really matter to people, and that's the with that's definitely the case with this story. you recall, of course, the crooked house pub, which was burnt down last year, is now going to be rebuilt after a glorious campaign by locals, and i'm now joined by paul turner from the save the crooked house campaign . welcome to the house campaign. welcome to the show, paul. first of all, massive, massive congratulations. i know you locals there have been taking bncks locals there have been taking bricks down by hand, putting them in containers. your cherished local resource looks like could have a fresh lease of life. tell us more, paul . yeah life. tell us more, paul. yeah it's great. >> i mean, the council of, um, issued an enforcement notice today to the owners of the

crooked house, um, saying that they need to rebuild it within three years, which is, um, happened quicker than we ever expected it to happen. we thought it was going to be a long, long job getting to this point, but we're here with this. um, we don't know exactly how long it's going to take, but this is a massively important step. and paul, how big an undertaking will it be? >> i mean, fire damage , building >> i mean, fire damage, building structure. he can go through a massive deterioration . what kind massive deterioration. what kind of state is the building in? to give us an idea of how troublesome the rebuild might be. and also, do you think that the people who own it with crooked seeming to be an operative word, will actually get around to doing it? >> well, first of all, the building . building. >> the building is a set of bncks >> the building is a set of bricks in two massive containers . um, that's it. um, behind me there's the site of where the original building was, and, um, it's just a it's just rubble.

there's nothing there . it was it there's nothing there. it was it was set on fire, and then it was demolished. and um, and that's what we've got to work with. so it's a complete rebuild from scratch. there's some part of the foundations in place , but we the foundations in place, but we don't imagine they'll be strong enough to hold the building . um, enough to hold the building. um, in terms of whether the owners will do what we hope they will comply with the order here. um, but we're expecting that there's going to be a few more hurdles to climb yet. >> and paul, um, how are you going to hold them to account? because what you've done so far has been a spectacular piece of people power. you dug in, you got this story out there on the airwaves that gb news we've covered it since the start. fans tastic. well done to you. i'm assuming you're going to keep pushing with every ounce of energy got . energy you've got. >> well, we have to keep it in the public eye, and we've done a great job in partnership with the media. the media have helped us massively. um, the whole world has been interested in this story since the beginning.

um and it's our job to keep keep um and it's ourjob to keep keep the momentum going . and that the momentum going. and that puts pressure on the cancer , puts pressure on the cancer, who've done a fantastic job to get to this point so quickly . get to this point so quickly. um, and there's going to be various legal things that need to happen that we don't really have any say in, but, um, we'll be there pushing and holding events and keeping the momentum going , events and keeping the momentum going, keeping this in the pubuc going, keeping this in the public eye. because you know, this this was stolen from us. and, um, and we want it back. >> well, paul turner from the save the crooked house campaign, you've been an absolute credit to your community. be a credit to your community. be a credit to the pub industry and credit to the pub industry and a credit to the pub industry and a credit to great britain. well done mate, thank you very much for having the resolve to just soldier on. thank you. good lad. okay. moving on. we'll have lots more on this huge story at 5:00 and there's plenty of coverage on our website gbnews.com and you've helped to make it the fastest growing national news website in the country . so thank website in the country. so thank you very much. now you're watching or listening to gb news and coming up in just a moment,

we'll discussing how donald we'll be discussing how donald trump become prince trump could become prince harry's . an harry's worst nightmare. an absolutely fabulous story . harry's worst nightmare. an absolutely fabulous story. i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel

the uk, this is gb news radio. >> earlier on breakfast, labour is pledging to end the harassment of women online by tackling it at the source. >> this can involve bullying onune >> this can involve bullying online of a of a sexual nature , online of a of a sexual nature, misogynistic comments but also sadly within the classroom as well. >> the organisers of these protests probably should be forced into giving more notice of them because literally they're telling the met within days that there's going to be 100,000 or more people on the streets of london. >> we sit on the precipice of economic disaster, social, cultural , political and indeed cultural, political and indeed constitutional disaster. as a result of this concern of government from six. >> it's breakfast on gb news.

>> it's breakfast on gb news. >> welcome back. it's 423. you're watching or listen to martin daubney on gb news. now, the prince of wales did not attend a memorial service for his godfather, the late king constantine of greece, that took place at windsor castle today, pulling out due to a personal matter . as pulling out due to a personal matter. as said in a statement from kensington palace, the palace has not released any further information, but confirmed the princess of wales is still recovering well from that abdominal surgery. queen camilla, the duke of york and the princess royal are among those who attended and meanwhile , across pond, donald trump , across the pond, donald trump has said prince harry will be on his own if he returns to the presidency following what he believes to be unforgivable disloyalty to the queen. well, join now to discuss. this is the former bbc royal correspondent jennie bond. jennie always a pleasure to have you on the show. let's start with william. if we can dropped out of this engagement and of course, people will be very concerned as to the reasons why do we know any more ?

reasons why do we know any more? >> we don't know any more. no. he doesn't want to us know. who knows? it was very, very last minute. this was a family minute. this was a big family occasion. coming in from occasion. royals coming in from various parts of the world to remember the former king of greece, constantine, who was william's godfather. of course . william's godfather. of course. so it's something that william was going to attend. he was going to read a lesson and it was a very sudden withdrawal. we don't know why. i mean, you know, could been one of know, it could have been one of the suddenly , you know, the children suddenly, you know, throwing who it could throwing up. who knows? it could be maybe something be willing, maybe ate something that he that disagreed with him. he doesn't us to know. and he doesn't want us to know. and he has right to keep it has every right to keep it private. >> good. and meanwhile, >> okay, good. and meanwhile, trump, president versus the trump, the president versus the prince. what a story, jenny. prince. wow what a story, jenny. and this basically could mean donald trump rummaging around in these allegations in spare about prince harry's drug taking. and it may affect his future residency plans. and of course, lest we forget that meghan was very outspoken of her disdain for trump when he was voted in

jenny, this story really gets the juices flowing. >> yes , well, uh, donald trump, >> yes, well, uh, donald trump, i think most people would accept is probably quite a vindictive man . man. >> um, and he is a law unto himself, and he's made it very clear that he regards harry and meghan as being completely on their own . if he becomes their own. if he becomes president . thus far, they've president. thus far, they've been somewhat, i suppose, protected by the biden administration. there is a group, uh, of concerned group who are trying to force the publication of the application that harry filled in for his visa when he moved to america. uh, and, you know , the rules and uh, and, you know, the rules and laws on, on drug taking are quite intense over there. and the question is , did did harry the question is, did did harry say as he did in his book, 'spare' that he had taken quite a considerable number of drugs? did he say that on his visa application? but the biden administration have protected him and said, well, quite frankly , they don't see that

frankly, they don't see that this should be published, and also they don't see other remarkable they don't actually see that just because harry said in his book he taken all these drugs that that is necessary proof that he did, which is a bit odd, really, isn't it? uh, but trump has made a lot of, uh, quite unpleasant noises saying that he'll be on his own . and, that he'll be on his own. and, um, it's really quite threatening for harry. i mean, it could threaten his residency in the united states . in the united states. >> he could. and many people are talking about president nixon back in the day, he had an enemies list of people he'd specifically set out to destroy . specifically set out to destroy. how could that happen again? and anyway, jenny, if that happened , anyway, jenny, if that happened, california might being the most the public enemy number one of donald trump actually make the sussexes more popular ? sussexes more popular? >> yeah, that's a very good point , >> yeah, that's a very good point, martin, i think so. >> you know, um, they would be seen as victims of, of trump and their liberal credentials would be feted and celebrated as they are already, i suppose, in california. so they could become

, um, new heroes and heroine, um, of modern day politics. so we will have to wait and see. but trump has definitely got it in for them. yeah it's one to watch. >> thank you very much for joining us jennie bond. it's always an absolute pleasure, a j'oy always an absolute pleasure, a joy to have you on the show. thank you very much. i think this got everything i this story's got everything i really, really do. um, don't forget when president obama laughed at donald trump that time publicly, you could see in trump's eyes he never forgets when people humiliate him. and when people humiliate him. and when meghan said she might move to canada when trump was elected, she was a little known tv star. then she went on to marry the prince. she and she now is in this position where if donald trump gets back in, he could make the sussexes life an absolute merry hell . now, on absolute merry hell. now, on thursday , one of the most thursday, one of the most controversial by elections in memory will take place as ali will appear on the ballot paper as the labour party candidate. but the party, of course, has withdrawn its support for ali after an anti—semitic row. well

our north west of england reporter sophie reaper has been to the town . once home to what to the town. once home to what was believed to be the world's biggest cotton mill, was believed to be the world's biggest cotton mill , rochdale biggest cotton mill, rochdale was a powerhouse of britain's industrial revolution varne. >> but now those temples of this town's former glory lay empty or destroyed. a forgotten memory of decades gone by in the town centre. it's a similar story. despite investment and attempts at development , many of the at development, many of the shops remain shuttered and run down in the past few weeks alone. what was once a thriving bar and restaurant right at the heart of the town centre has been forced to close its doors for good. as for the people of this town , it seems that right this town, it seems that right now optimism, although not complete , gone, is pretty thin complete, gone, is pretty thin on the ground. if you had one word to describe rochdale as it is right now, what would it be?

>> scruffy. >> scruffy. >> disgraceful. >> disgraceful. >> underfunded. >> underfunded. >> challenging . >> challenging. >> challenging. >> trying. >> trying. >> ridiculous. dump with a population of just over 220,000 people, there are lots of voices to be heard here in rochdale. >> but what exactly are those voices going to be asking of their new mp to be? >> to start with, the roads are a complete disgrace . the a complete disgrace. the potholes in every borough you're going in rochdale just a disgrace. they need sorting out. >> i would like to see the new mp, um, for st for rochdale in parliament. money. it's the only thing that will change the town . thing that will change the town. >> knock the town down and start to start rebuilding it like bury is. >> things are all over. >> things are all over. >> it was one of the richest towns in the country at one time. it's one of the poorest how. >> now. >> rochdale has some nice areas and we get a lot of bad press, but i do think they could do better .

better. >> on thursday, voters in rochdale will head to the polls . rochdale will head to the polls. but no matter who they choose as their new mp , it's clear that their new mp, it's clear that their new mp, it's clear that the people of this town feel it's the people of this town feel wsfime the people of this town feel it's time for something to be done. sophie reaper. gb news. >> all eyes on rochdale and here are the candidates standing in that rochdale by—election. they are as for ali, labour, mark coleman , independent simon coleman, independent simon danczuk reform uk ian donaldson , danczuk reform uk ian donaldson, liberal democrat paul ellison , liberal democrat paul ellison, conservative george galloway , conservative george galloway, the workers party of britain michael howarth, independent william howarth, independent guy otten, green party, raven roden and sabatina, the official monster raving loony party and david tully , independent. now david tully, independent. now there's lots more still to come between now and 5:00 we'll be getting the latest on the mayor of portland's legal challenge over the docking of the bibby stockholm barge , which is being stockholm barge, which is being used to house asylum seekers, of

course. but first, it's time for your latest news headlines with polly middlehurst . the top polly middlehurst. the top stories this hour, ministers are refusing to call a suspended tory mps comments islamophobic . tory mps comments islamophobic. >> the prime minister says lee anderson's comments were wrong because they conflated all muslims with islamist extremism. but rishi sunak says he doesn't believe lee anderson is racist . believe lee anderson is racist. the former deputy chair of the tory party is refusing to apologise for criticising the london mayor and maintains sadiq khan has lost control of london to a tiny minority of extremists and the conservative party is facing more backlash today after the mp, paul scully, claimed there are no go areas in birmingham and in east london. the former minister made reference to areas with large muslim communities , which he muslim communities, which he says he now regrets . west says he now regrets. west midlands mayor andy street responded by saying westminster

needs to stop the nonsense slurs and the old crooked pub, which was destroyed in a suspected arson attack in the west midlands, is set to be rebuilt. but locals were outraged when it was demolished just two days after the fire last august . an after the fire last august. an enforcement notice has now been issued against the owners for its unlawful demolition , with its unlawful demolition, with the authority, local authority thatis the authority, local authority that is ordering it be restored to its original original state within three years. and queen camilla has attended a memorial service for king constantine of greece . the prince of wales, who greece. the prince of wales, who was due to deliver a reading at the service , was forced to pull the service, was forced to pull out due to what was being described as a personal matter. kensington palace didn't elaborate but confirmed the princess of wales, who's recovering from abdominal surgery, is doing well and the king also missed the service as he continues treatment for cancer. he continues treatment for cancer . those are the headlines cancer. those are the headlines for the very latest stories. sign up for gb news alerts. scan the qr code on the screen or go

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now. it's a hugely controversial move to allow a barge to house hundreds of migrants to dock in portland. well, today , a legal portland. well, today, a legal challenge against the docking of the bibby stockholm is being heard in the high court, and the mayor of portland says dorset council has no planning authority to use the barge to house asylum seekers. well joining me now from the royal courts of justice is gb news reporter ray addison rae. welcome to the show . the welcome to the show. the controversy, ray over the bibby stockholm rolls on and on and on.the stockholm rolls on and on and on. the locals didn't want it. the so—called anti—racist didn't want it. now it's in the court. what's the latest ? what's the latest? >> this is really martin, the last roll of the dice for carolyn parks. of course , the carolyn parks. of course, the mayor of portland in dorset , as mayor of portland in dorset, as she brought a previous high court claim against the home office back in october. now, that wasn't allowed to proceed. in fact, the judge in that case said you should be bringing the

case against your local council. so that's exactly what she's done. that's what she's doing here today. now, the key point is the extent of the local authorities powers over planning permission. now, in her claim, the lawyers for miss parks are arguing that the entirety of portland harbour is within the county of dorset and therefore under the council's planning authority . she says that the authority. she says that the bibby stockholm is engineless. it's permanently moored in the harbour and therefore, she says, essentially it should be treated in the same way as a pier would be going out to sea that would also fall under the planning permission of the local council . permission of the local council. all lawyers for parks are saying that the law allows the council to take action. also when it's in the public interest, and where a development could have a substantial impact locally. well, cases represented. the council have described parkss case today as absurd and unworkable . they're saying that

unworkable. they're saying that the sea and therefore the seabed, cannot be considered land under the town and country planning act 1990. now miss parks is also arguing that the bibby stockholm barge has been hugely expensive. and in fact we've heard some figures today in court , we found out that the in court, we found out that the government has spent around £92 million using the barge since it was moored up in july of last yeah was moored up in july of last year. that's eight months ago. there's 315 people living there as of january 9th of this year. now, if you divide those figures, it works out at about £3,650 per mile per month . i £3,650 per mile per month. i went online and i looked at local property in dorset. each migrant could actually be housed in their own six bedroom house locally for that figure. of course not including food. i think listeners and viewers may be surprised to hear that figure. well parks is also arguing that the barge is

dangerous. of course , we know dangerous. of course, we know that tragically, in december, one person is suspected to have taken their own life , and parks taken their own life, and parks is arguing that many more people have had to suffer from isolation , an overcrowding and isolation, an overcrowding and deteriorating mental health. and she now wants the bibby stockholm barge to be moored for good and towed back out to sea rather soon. >> a superb analysis to a farce , >> a superb analysis to a farce, a farce that shouldn't exist. this is a solution to a problem that shouldn't exist and if they get a result here, ray will be the only boat they've ever managed to stop. you couldn't make it up. that's ray addison. great as ever. now you're great stuff. as ever. now you're watching or listening to gb news. coming up, the bbc has apologised to family of the apologised to the family of the young at the centre of young person at the centre of the huw edwards scandal, and i'll with the next i'll speak with the next bbc journalist for his thoughts by martin daubney on gb news. britain's news channel

now gb news. we love to cover the stories that really matter to people, and that's definitely the case with this next corker of a story and of course, the crooked house pub , which was crooked house pub, which was burnt down last year , is now burnt down last year, is now going to be rebuilt after a spectacular campaign by locals. well, i can now speak with the mayor of the west midlands and high street. andy, welcome to the show. what a magnificent success story locals banded together literally brick by brick and salvaging this precious building. and now it seems they may have a result . seems they may have a result. what's the latest ? what's the latest? >> yes , it is a great story, a >> yes, it is a great story, a great day , as you say. great day, as you say. >> a reaction to the community really coming together to say this should not have been done. this was an attack on part of our heritage, but credit must also go to the local authority, south staffs, who've acted very, very quickly and have now issued the enforcement order. >> and what does that look like

moving forward? because of course, the building was substantially gutted by fire. when i spoke to the campaign organiser, he says it needs to be rebuilt from the ground up, brick by brick, by brick. which begs the question andy, the owners, can they be trusted to obey this enforcement . order? obey this enforcement. order? >> so you are right. i think a number of people coined the phrase brick by brick, and that is exactly what has got to be done. >> and the council have made it very, very clear to the owners today that is exactly what they expect. and now the owners have got to comply with that. so, i mean, if you'd asked me six months ago, i was confident many, many people were sceptical that we wouldn't even get to this point. and now the ball is very firmly in the owner's court to respond to this legal order. well let's hope that happens. >> andy, as i've got here, can i very quickly ask you about this controversy in the media about no go areas , allegedly in no go areas, allegedly in birmingham , where, of course you birmingham, where, of course you are the mayor. what's your take

on that ? well it was you say, controversy. >> i actually don't think there's a controversy at all. >> one member of parliament said it. it obviously quite self—evidently is completely wrong . i was very quick to say wrong. i was very quick to say yesterday , it's just not right. yesterday, it's just not right. it should not have been said. and of course, the member of parliament concerned has apologised today. >> i think actually the issue >> so i think actually the issue is over and i am actually very pleased that the community here in birmingham has really rallied together . together. >> to say that is not a description of our home that we recognise in any way. >> just quickly and i've >> okay, just quickly and i've got a comment here from a gb news viewer called colin who says i live, i live in birmingham, believe me that there areas of birmingham there are areas of birmingham that no longer go that white people no longer go to. what do you say to that ? i to. what do you say to that? i >> i'd just say, i mean , your >> i'd just say, i mean, your viewer can say whatever he wants thatis viewer can say whatever he wants that is not my experience at all. my experience is that you move around this region and we're actually incredibly early,

confident in the way in which different communities all live together, thrive together. this is the most diverse place in britain, and i've always said one of our great strengths is that mix, where all communities are thriving together. so as i say, i don't in any way recognise the statement given yesterday . yesterday. >> okay, andy street, the mayor of the west midlands, thank you very much and fantastic result on the crooked house. the story, which has touched millions and millions of people around the nation. when a community comes together like that literally together like that and literally brick by brick, takes the building apart to sandwich it, it's wonderful. thank you so much. now moving on to bbc has apologised to the family involved in the huw edwards scandal over the way it handled their complaint and the bbc presenter has not made any pubuc presenter has not made any public statements since he was accused of a string of allegations , including paying a allegations, including paying a 17 year old for sexually explicit photos for several years dating back to 2020. but the big question is this why has this taken them so long to act

well, to discuss this, i'm now joined by the broadcaster, journalist and ex bbc journalist. indeed, dan caddy. danny, welcome to the show. always a pleasure to taken a long time and yet now we have an apology . do you long time and yet now we have an apology. do you think it's sufficient? >> the bbc rarely apologised. >> the bbc rarely apologised. >> so an apology in isolation. martin tells you how seriously they've taken this. i've done a lot of digging into this story and there's a lot of inference and there's a lot of inference andinnuendo and there's a lot of inference and innuendo that basically the bbc were hoping that this claim went away by its own accord. >> you're correct it over a number of years, allegations that huw edwards was involved in sending a 17 year old lad ten of thousands of pounds for sordid material and the bbc, when they get the complaints all those months ago, what do they do? >> well, they make a phone call back to the complainant, the mother of the 17 year old lad and when they don't receive a phone call back, they email the

complainant and then they drop it. >> they park it up. the corporate investigations unit, who emailed the complainant to seek further evidence and telephoned and parked it up. now if i work for the bbc and someone said to me, dad, there's a story here involving an itn news anchor who's involved with scurrilous individuals on online and on social media, i would be expected to make more than one phone call. >> i'd be expected to make more and drop more than one email to the to the guy who tipped me off with the story, i think they were hoping it away from were hoping it went away from the bbc's perspective. martin, of you know, could of course you know, this could have been a blag. >> this could been >> this could have been a complete scam. there's lots of loonies there to loonies out there who want to try and ruin people's careers, but it wasn't a scam and they weren't lunatics. >> and bbc what the bbc do. >> they've made an announcement. martin that they're going to employ mid—ranking employ more mid—ranking mandarins to ensure that things like never again , like this never happen again, and there is another , and that if there is another, uh, allegation that it's

immediately, uh , highlighted to immediately, uh, highlighted to top brass at the bbc, see, and dan, do you think this will highlight the public feeling that's growing that different rules seem to apply to the bbc? >> i mean, for example, if gb news made a mistake, we get slammed by ofcom immediately. but it seems that the bbc is allowed to mark its homework , allowed to mark its homework, own homework to market in private and then to issue an apology quite late in the day. it kind of fizzles away and they seem to be held to a much different set of standard is very much so. >> and don't forget, this is pubuc >> and don't forget, this is public money. >> he's on over 410, £415,000. >> now mr edwards is mentally very fragile and we need to afford him that understanding. but as my as i understand ed martin, he's still on the, on the payroll. while the bbc marks its own homework. i've been in the office before where there have been stories involving local, regional, bbc radio or bbc tv, and i can tell you basically they just hope that

the phone won't ring and they'll just hope that the story doesn't develop. and i've been involved in like this myself. in stories like this myself. >> along the lines >> nothing along the same lines as sue edwards, but other stuff. >> when i've said something stupid on the radio i've got stupid on the radio and i've got in i can tell you in trouble and i can tell you management what they want, they just hope the stops just hope that the phone stops ringing. you that for ringing. i can tell you that for a fact. but the thing is, you see, because, uh, metropolitan police involved, woman, police got involved, the woman, the sorry, mother of the father. sorry, the mother of this 17 year lad the this 17 year old lad thought the bbc seriously. bbc weren't taking it seriously. and you all you need and that tells you all you need to know. i take you back to my earlier point, martin. the internal investigations unit, they left they called once, and they left one if you're that one email. now, if you're that bothered, you're taking bothered, if you're taking things like this so seriously and don't forget what the allegation of allegation was. tens of thousands and sordid thousands of pounds and sordid photographs. if you're taking the as seriously as the allegations as seriously as the allegations as seriously as the wants to believe they the bbc wants us to believe they take allegations, then take these allegations, then you'd them to leave more you'd expect them to leave more than voice and one more than one voice note and one more than one voice note and one more than email. than one email. >> danny kelly, thank >> okay, danny kelly, thank you for input on that. you for your input on that. you know, the bbc, you've worked there. a lot of people thinking this is too little, late, this is too little, too late, but there go. perhaps it's

but there we go. perhaps it's double standards now. i've been asking the show asking you throughout the show to the big to get in touch on the big topics day and it's no go topics of the day and it's no go areas that have really, really got you going . and we talk. got you going. and we talk. here's one here. lee anderson , here's one here. lee anderson, mary says this the left of politics are using lee anderson as a distraction from the speaker problems. last week, sadiq khan is using this to further his electioneering. mike says this cleverly just made the tories even more unelectable . tories even more unelectable. well, of course you're talking about by asking lee anderson to apologise, mike adds this anderson doesn't need to apologise for telling the truth. jim adds this about time someone showed some guts . joseph adds showed some guts. joseph adds this of course, lee anderson is right to not apologise. he is only saying what the majority of people think . it's a pity there people think. it's a pity there are not more mps like him. the majority of them are so weak. mike on social media says this and he talks about paul scully .

and he talks about paul scully. paul scully came into the studio, paul scully has apologised for describing parts of london and birmingham as no go areas . i spoke to the mayor go areas. i spoke to the mayor of the west midlands a moment ago. he denied that mike says this people should apologise when they get things wrong. i have apologised many times in my life but when you apologise simply because of the faux outrage , that can never be right outrage, that can never be right andifs outrage, that can never be right and it's simply feeds the woke beast that lee anderson was right. paul scully was wrong . right. paul scully was wrong. there have been many, many more like that . here's here's a quick like that. here's here's a quick one, gary adds this lee should ditch the conservative party and move to reform . lee was right. move to reform. lee was right. sadiq khan has turned london into a dump and on no go areas. alan adds this i used to regularly go to brick lane market in london in the 1980s. that, of course, is in tower hamlets, but i wouldn't dare go there alone these days. that's really got you going . please

really got you going. please keep them coming in. play more to come in the next hour, including all the latest on the lee anderson scam five days ago. started on this very show. we'll have loads more on that. i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel . britain's news channel. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> good afternoon. welcome to your latest gb news weather update with me annie from the met office. rain will continue to push southwards through the rest of the day, and that's because we do have a weather front sinking into northern areas parts of areas of england and parts of wales the midlands by this wales and the midlands by this afternoon and that's to afternoon, and that's going to be that spell of be bringing that spell of cloudier wetter weather cloudier and wetter weather behind will behind it, though it will turn much drier and clearer. but that drizzly rain will sink into parts of the south—east southeast , parts of the south—east southeast, east. to end the day. it does turn clearer drier it does turn clearer and drier behind rain, but we also behind that rain, but we also see risk of some mist and fog

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1000 job losses in the horse racing sector . and that's all racing sector. and that's all coming up in your next action packed hour . so welcome to the packed hour. so welcome to the show. i don't know what this breaking news is that chris hope has got, but he seems very excited. he's out there. we'll have all that in a minute. now i want to hear from you all the usual ways. get in touch. we'll talk about no go zones today. are they thing? paul scutti are they a thing? paul scutti was earlier. he had to was in here earlier. he had to apologise saying that lee apologise for saying that lee anderson has been asked to apologise by james cleverly. he said in no uncertain terms. apologise by james cleverly. he said in no uncertain terms . read said in no uncertain terms. read my lips. i am not apologising and that is giving us a stand off. it seems there's no movement on that . get in touch movement on that. get in touch the usual ways. vaiews@gbnews.com. but before all of that, it's time for your latest news headlines with polly

middlehurst . middlehurst. >> martin, thank you and good afternoon to you. well, government ministers are refusing to call a suspended tory mps comments islamophobic. the prime minister reiterating his views, saying lee anderson's remarks about the london mayor were wrong because they conflated all muslims with islamist extremism. but he said he doesn't believe lee anderson is a racist. the former deputy chair of the tory party is refusing to apologise and maintain sadiq khan has lost control of london to a tiny minority of extremists. mr anderson says he's trying to highlight what he believes is the mayor's failure to tackle pro—palestine protests . it's pro—palestine protests. it's well, the mp paul scully has apologised for saying there are no go zones in birmingham and in east london. the former minister made reference to areas with large muslim communities , large muslim communities, comments which he now says he regrets . but comments which he now says he regrets. but mr comments which he now says he regrets . but mr scully admits he regrets. but mr scully admits he could have chosen his words more

carefully. >> the fact that i used that terme and i've used i spoken a lot about the need to use sensible language. i clearly didn't use the right language there and why is that? >> because actually it's a distraction from the direct opposite. >> what i was trying to say, which is basically there are areas around every city in the country, frankly, that are which people are worried about going to, it's often based to, whether it's often based around or a handful of around gangs or a handful of idiots, frankly, that are threatening or intimidating or whatever. that . whatever. like that. >> now, the west midlands mayor andy street, has told gb news the comments are completely false . false. >> i actually don't think there's a controversy at all, one member of parliament said it. it obviously quite self—evidently, is completely wrong . i was very quick to say wrong. i was very quick to say yesterday it's just not right. it should not have been said. and of course the member of parliament concerned has apologised today. so i think actually the issue is over and i am actually very pleased that the community here in birmingham has really rallied together . to has really rallied together. to say that is not a description of

our home that we recognise in any way. andy street meanwhile, mps are warning that the protests themselves are putting unsustainable pressure on police resources. >> they're calling on the government to give more support as demonstrations continue over the israel—gaza war. a cross—party committee found that policing the protests between october and december last year cost forces more than £25 million. the bbc has had to apologise today to the family caught up in the huw edwards scandal over the way their complaint was handled. it follows claims the news presenter paid for explicit photographs of a teenager , a photographs of a teenager, a review into how non editorial complaints are handled and identified has identified a number of failures and they've said there's a greater need for consistency when it comes to addressing concerns. the report found. the initial complaint about huw edwards was not logged to on the relevant case management system , and so could

management system, and so could not be seen by senior figures . not be seen by senior figures. an 18th century pub that was destroyed in a suspected arson attack in the west midlands must be rebuilt by order of the local council . be rebuilt by order of the local council. britain's wonkiest pub , council. britain's wonkiest pub, the crooked house, was quickly demolished just two days after the fire last august. an enforcement notice has now been issued against the owners for its unlawful demolition and south staffordshire council is ordering it be rebuilt in its original state within three years. a police investigation into the fire that burnt it down continues , and anyone with any continues, and anyone with any information is urged to come forward underwater. experts who supported the search for missing mum nicola bulley are joining the operation to find a toddler in leicester. two year old xylo marosi fell into the river soar, nine days ago while his family was out with him. the police say the search area is now being widened, with teams checking various points along the river

royal news and the prince of wales has pulled out of a royal event due to honour the memory of his godfather because of what's being described as a personal matter. instead queen camilla led the royal family dunng camilla led the royal family during a memorial for king constantine of greece. prince william had been due to deliver a reading at the service for the late monarch. kensington palace didn't elaborate, but confirmed the princess of wales, whose recovering from abdominal surgery is doing well. the king also missed the service as he continues treatment for cancer. now the hs2 project has reached a major milestone, with a tunnelling machine completing its ten mile journey under the chiltern hills. the 2000 ton piece of equipment, nicknamed armed florence, was greeted with cheers as it broke through dirt and rock at the site in buckinghamshire , where it began buckinghamshire, where it began its journey in may 2021 near rickmansworth in hertfordshire . rickmansworth in hertfordshire. on completion, it will be one of two tunnels used by trains

travelling between london and birmingham , and finally two birmingham, and finally two d—day veterans have described the honour of having their names added to a memorial wall in portsmouth . british military portsmouth. british military veterans stanford and john roberts were presented with their plaques. today, a total of 13 names of normandy veterans will be added to the wall as portsmouth becomes the uk's official host to mark eight years since the d—day landings later on this year. that's the news for the very latest news stories. do sign up for gb news alerts . scan the qr code on your alerts. scan the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. com slash alerts more. now from . slash alerts more. now from. martin. thank you polly. >> now brace yourselves because we start this hour with some huge breaking news and it's a massive development involving . massive development involving. that man lee anderson with all the juice. now, as our political

edhon the juice. now, as our political editor, chris hope, who has the story, chris, what's going on? >> yeah. so, richard, we know of course, anderson course, that lee anderson had the suspended on saturday the whip suspended on saturday for remarks that he made about, um, sidique khan, who's the um, um sidique khan, who's the mayor of london, um, saying that he was some islamists have got control over him as mayor of london, we can now reveal that lee anderson met with richard tice, the leader of the reform uk party, on sunday lunchtime . uk party, on sunday lunchtime. he was spotted there, um, at a houdayinn he was spotted there, um, at a holiday inn junction 28, of the m1. we don't know what they discussed, but the timing is very, very telling. i think 24 hours after he lost the whip, now the reform uk um, party is off to the right of the tory party has been speculated before and he's talked before, hasn't he, lee anderson about he was approached a party, approached to join a party, starting letter starting with letter are wouldn't if reform or wouldn't say if it's reform or reclaim but this i think reclaim party but this i think shows the jeopardy that the tories are in. if they lose someone like lee anderson, his totemic symbol of the red wall, and were he to jump ship to join

the reform uk party, it would almost it would risk looking like a severing of that connection umbilical cord. the party's red wall. party's got with its red wall. >> if this goes ahead. >> if this goes ahead. >> yeah. now we don't know what they talked about. they met for around 20 minutes. understand around 20 minutes. we understand from sources. lee anderson won't comment him. comment when i've been to him. he i'm not talking about my he said i'm not talking about my next focus is next steps, he says my focus is on representing the people of ashfield richard tice is so ashfield and richard tice is so far unavailable for comment. but i this shows the sense of i think this shows the sense of jeopardy that this mp jeopardy that around this mp that if he were to go to the reform uk party that may give conservative voters permission to vote for reform uk . and to vote for reform uk. and that's a further problem for the pm. rishi sunak. >> well , sign pm. rishi sunak. >> well, sign me now is steve double, conservative mp for saint austell and newquay. steve you just heard about that story in real time. this is a massive problem for the conservative party, isn't it? james cleverly has said you must apologise. lee anderson has said read my lips. i am not apologising. we have a

stand off. is there a route back for lee anderson into the conservative party, especially in light of this breaking news that he's been to see richard tice ? he's clearly not going to tice? he's clearly not going to apologise . can he come back to apologise. can he come back to the tories on his terms or is it looking increasingly likely he might cross the floor to reform? >> well , i might cross the floor to reform? >> well, i think first of all, you know, lee's obviously perfectly free to meet whoever he wants. >> and we don't know. you know what that conversation was what what that conversation was about the outcome it. about or the outcome of it. i think there's always route think there's always a route back. has be a route back. there has to be a route back. there has to be a route back. think everyone just back. i think everyone just needs to calm bit. needs to calm down a bit. i mean, the story has just run away a that i think is away in a way that i think is totally out of proportion with what it's actually about, you know, said something which know, lee said something which i think was unwise in think was unwise lies in the current environment, wasn't the cleverest to say . that was cleverest thing to say. that was bound to provoke a reaction. he himself said that, didn't he? that he knew it would put the prime minister in a very difficult position and probably no option in, uh, other than to remove the whip. which begs the question, why he if he knew

that, why did he say it? so i think, you know, there is a route but i think lee does route back, but i think lee does need to think carefully about his position and the wisdom his his position and the wisdom of the words he used on that occasion. but he's absolutely . occasion. but he's absolutely. and that's, you know, just everyone calm down a bit now. >> but steve is absolutely adamant. spoke to myself adamant. i spoke to him myself earlier . he adamant. i spoke to him myself earlier. he said, read my lips. i'm not apologising. if those and we've had hundreds and hundreds emails hundreds and hundreds of emails from viewers saying at last, from our viewers saying at last, somebody doesn't bow to the mob, doesn't take the knee, doesn't apologise , he's not going to be apologise, he's not going to be able to apologise. >> the point is he i mean, as far as i'm aware, he's not really explained or quantified exactly what he meant because sadiq clearly is not sadiq khan clearly is not controlled by islamists. i mean, that's true. i mean, that's just not true. i mean, sadiq khan is useless and is failing london, but he's given in to everyone . it's not just in to everyone. it's not just the pro—palestinian marches, it's , um, extinction rebellion it's, um, extinction rebellion just stop oil who have run amok and brought the city to a standstill. so it's not just

about islam or muslims or palestine or anything around that. so i think lee's got to explain what is it he actually meant by what he said ? and okay, meant by what he said? and okay, if he doesn't feel he needs to apologise, i think he needs to at least come out and give us say, well, what was it you were trying to say? because clearly cannot true. sadiq khan cannot be true. but sadiq khan is islamists. is controlled by islamists. >> steve, isn't that crying >> but steve, isn't that crying over milk now? stories over spilt milk now? stories moved on. if you've got to a stage where a key player in the conservative party is red wall, you know lee is seen by many as a of spiritual leader of a sort of spiritual leader of the red wall, a key foundation stone that at the very least in the red wall, he's looked to by many as a kind of bellwether. if you've got an asset , many as a kind of bellwether. if you've got an asset, a prized asset like that, meeting with the leader of an opponent, an opposing political party, you've got a big problem. well, clearly these are challenging times . these are challenging times. >> we would much prefer not to be having to deal with these issues within the party. we'd rather be getting on with our program of government and

delivering the things that we want to deliver for the country at this is a huge at this time. this is a huge distraction that i agree we, you know, we would rather not to have to deal with. but the reaction to lee's comments has been view, just, you know, been in my view, just, you know, we live in a world, it seems at the moment where every little word a politician says gets latched and made latched on by someone and made into a huge we saw that into a huge story. we saw that with paul scully as well. so i think everyone's just got to calm down and take a step back at the moment and see what's going at the moment and see what's goiibut steve, back to the matter >> but steve, back to the matter in you know, let's let's in hand. you know, let's let's forget about what's happened that's done. we've that's kind of been done. we've got situation right if got a situation right now. if you're speak to james you're going to speak to james cleverly we've to cleverly today, we've got to speak anderson today. speak to lee anderson today. what would you say? what would you the solution be to you prefer the solution to be to this? be this? because you can't be losing through reform, you? >> we don't want to lose our mps to anyone. so would be if to anyone. so i would be if i had the opportunity talk to had the opportunity to talk to lee, be, uh, urging him, lee, i would be, uh, urging him, you know, to try and find a way to resolve this. we want lee to stay within the conservative party. we, uh, we want

party. clearly we, uh, we want all our mps to within the all our mps to stay within the conservative but you all our mps to stay within the conse|i ative but you all our mps to stay within the conse|i ative be but you all our mps to stay within the conse|i ative be encouraging him know, i would be encouraging him to. and try and to. let's sit down and try and find way to resolve this, to find a way to resolve this, to enable him to stay and have the whip restored. and so we can all move you know, move on together. we, you know, we to be in this position. >> do you think that the will is there to welcome lee back into there to welcome lee back into the fold, not on terms of the fold, not on the terms of james cleaver. you must apologise. must. must apologise. you must. you must repent your hair, repent. you must wear your hair, shirt self—flagellate lee shirt and self—flagellate lee said not going to that. said he's not going to do that. so what's the way out of this? yeah well, i mean, i can't speak for party leadership, but for the party leadership, but certainly that certainly i would hope that that's the case. >> would that we could >> i would hope that we could have said calm down and have said we can calm down and step from this, and let's step back from this, and let's have sensible conversation and have a sensible conversation and find resolve this, this issue. >> do you worry about leaching votes to reform uk because if you're losing you know, you're losing some, you know, totemic like lee totemic figures like lee anderson reform uk, that does anderson to reform uk, that does put the party in some jeopardy about losing touch his base. >> g i think clearly >> uh, well, i think clearly that's challenge. but we faced that's a challenge. but we faced that's a challenge. but we faced that challenge previously with ukip, with the brexit party. it's been there for a while. i

think there's a very clear and obvious message that if people who normally vote conservative vote reform this time , it means vote reform this time, it means we don't hold seats. we would normally expect to hold. it increases the likelihood of a labour government and the things that people of those views want become further and further away. so that's the that's the so i think that's the that's the real challenge for voters is what do you actually want? i agree, you know, i understand that many are frustrated that many voters are frustrated with us because of the situation. we find ourselves in, and they're thinking carefully about their vote. but i would say know, we really do need say you know, we really do need to think carefully about this. voting end up voting reform may well end up with keir starmer in numbers. >> wonder if conservative >> i wonder if conservative voters who get in touch with us quite often now are bothered about it certainly about that anymore. it certainly was 2019 on the was an issue in 2019 on the doorsteps, stood against doorsteps, and i stood against lee ashfield . i know lee anderson in ashfield. i know the people of ashfield. they were terrified a corbyn were terrified of a corbyn government, but now perhaps things have moved on. there's a record recently of the conservative party doing very badly elections a badly at by elections. a nightmare you, nightmare scenario for you, steve, surely would be a

by—election in ashfield with lee anderson as a reform candidate. that would be a nightmare scenario for you . scenario for you. >> well, i don't think we're going to have a i don't see lee resigning as an mp, so i don't think we're heading for a by—election ashfield. by—election in ashfield. but i think, know, the, the think, you know, the, the, the point making , uh, by point you're making, uh, by elections every government elections for every government that's in office for a long that's been in office for a long time have always gone badly. i think that's priced in. we expect that to happen in, expect that that to happen in, um, know, we are not you um, you know, we are not you know, it's clearly we're not in the place we would hope to be as a party going into an election. but i think what we need to do is get behind the prime minister and our message and and focus on our message and delivering for the country. so that we go into the general that we can go into the general election comes election whenever it comes united and with a very clear plan for the country. that's what we need to focus on quick one chris. >> well, that's right. i mean, the risk surely, is that other of colleagues? maybe if the of your colleagues? maybe if the hanson with him, what hanson goes go with him, what would you say to other mps who might he goes? might join him if he goes? >> well, hope they won't i >> well, i hope they won't go. i think that answer to the

think that the answer to the future of our country is a conservative government. mean, conservative government. i mean, the either rishi sunak conservative government. i mean, th> okay, steve, double mp for santos ahuge challenges. get on do have huge challenges. get on the phone to lee, try and sort out on the phone to james out or get on the phone to james cleverly. see what, see if he can get them together. because i think to feel like can get them together. because i thinichance to feel like can get them together. because i thinichance saloon. feel like can get them together. because i thinichance saloon. well, ike can get them together. because i thinichance saloon. well, you last chance saloon. well, you heard chris. hope heard it here first, chris. hope breaking the story on gb news that lee anderson has met the

leader of the reform party. richard tice. all know is richard tice. all we know is they met on sunday at a hotel. where it? chris where was it? chris >> uh, i'm 28, holding in m1 south normanton, derbyshire. >> there we go. sounds like something from the brinkerhoff years , matt, to discuss who years, matt, to discuss who knows what. we'll have more on that if and when we find out more. steve. double thank you very much for joining more. steve. double thank you very much forjoining us. now moving is donald trump about moving on. is donald trump about to prince harry's worst to become prince harry's worst nightmare? well, i'll tell you why could live to why. meghan markle could live to regret criticising the man who's widely expected to be the next us president this time next yeah us president this time next year. i'm martin daubney on gb news britain news .

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just confirmed lee anderson met with the leader of the reform party , richard tice. we believe party, richard tice. we believe on sunday at junction 28 of the m1 at a hotel. we don't know what they talked about. we don't know what happened, but they have met. this puts a huge situation in back to front and centre. once again. james cleverly, the home secretary , cleverly, the home secretary, today saying lee anderson must apologise. lee told us earlier he will apologise . read my lips, he will apologise. read my lips, he will apologise. read my lips, he will apologise. read my lips, he will not apologise. and so here we have situation. what will happen next? we'll have all of that huge breaking story as we know more details and no doubt through the rest of the evening. but moving on now sacked former independent chief inspector of borders and immigration david neil has told the home affairs committee earlier today i was sacked for doing my job. david neil was dismissed last week by home

secretary james cleverly. and joining us now to discuss this is gb news home and security editor mark white. mark welcome back to the show . a huge story. back to the show. a huge story. so david neil was getting too close to the truth. he was talking mark about 25% of those getting health care visas were abusing them . then he talks abusing them. then he talks about people coming into the country on private jets who weren't going through immigration. it seems now he's got the chop from telling the truth . truth. >> yeah, i think this afternoon's evidence session from david neil will make uncomfortable viewing for those senior officials in the home office. he's effectively saying that multiple reports , some of that multiple reports, some of them critical of the way in which the home office and border and immigration teams were running certain services have not yet been published, despite the fact that they were handed to the home office some back as

early as april of last year. some 14 reports in total that still haven't yet been published by the home office. indeed, we've had labour and other opposition parties calling on the home office as a matter of urgency to get these reports published from the former. independent agent. um jeeve , independent agent. um jeeve, inspector of borders and immigration. now, he lost the confidence of james cleverly , confidence of james cleverly, the home secretary, were told, after he leaked information and after he leaked information and a story to the daily mail. that story related to the city airport in london and the arrival of hundreds of flights of private jets, which, according to david neil, had not been properly vetted . and in been properly vetted. and in terms of the occupants by border force, this was a very significant and worrying , uh, significant and worrying, uh, weakness in our border controls. the home office has disputed and

the accuracy of the some of the allegations made in that daily mail newspaper. but david neil is sticking by his story. this is sticking by his story. this is what he told the home affairs select committee in his evidence session this afternoon . session this afternoon. >> sacked for doing my job. um, i think i've been sacked for doing what the law asks of me. >> um , and i breached a fallen >> um, and i breached a fallen down over, um, a clause in my employment contract , which i employment contract, which i think is a is a is a crying shame. >> so i've done my job extremely well. i've been candid with this committee. we've produced, um , committee. we've produced, um, multiple reports that have, um, exposed used the, um , sometimes exposed used the, um, sometimes lack of effectiveness and the lack of effectiveness and the lack of effectiveness and the lack of efficiency . harry lack of efficiency. harry >> thank you. superb stuff there. thanks for your comments. >> pictures of border and . >> pictures of border and. immigration. comment so i was

just going to say other independent chief inspectors of border and immigration , uh, border and immigration, uh, after serving three years in that post, would normally expect that post, would normally expect that that it would that contract would be renewed . uh, according would be renewed. uh, according to david neil, he says that downing street were the ones that terminated his employment. they gave no reason for that. we know, of course, to according the, uh, the home office and the home secretary, that the loss of confidence as far as james cleverly is concerned, was this issue of talking to the media. yeah >> superb stuff. mark. i think it's a story that's going to run and run for 14 reports, suppressed . mark. what was in suppressed. mark. what was in them ? i think that's the huge them? i think that's the huge detail. mark white, our homeland security editor. thank you so much for joining security editor. thank you so much forjoining us on the show. much for joining us on the show. now, the prince of wales did not attend the memorial service for his godfather, the late king constantine of greece , that took constantine of greece, that took place at windsor castle today , place at windsor castle today, pulling out due to a personal matter, as said in a statement

from kensington palace . now the from kensington palace. now the palace has not released any further information, but confirmed the princess of wales is still recovering well from abdominal surgery . queen abdominal surgery. queen camilla, the duke of york and the princess royal are among those who did attend. meanwhile, across the pond, donald trump has said prince harry will be on his own if he returns to the presidency following what he believes to be unforgivable disloyalty to the late queen. well, lots to chew over there and i'm joined now by the royal biographer ingrid seward. ingrid, welcome to the show. let's start with prince william pulled out of an event. let's start with prince william pulled out of an event . and of pulled out of an event. and of course, people will start to worry why worry. why >> well, of course people will worry. why but i think it's rather doubtful that we'll know. but it's most unusual because, uh, prince william was also going to do a reading a lesson at the service. and they're all the royal family are very close to or were very close to king

constantine . and he's harry's constantine. and he's harry's godfather . lot of lot of ties godfather. lot of lot of ties and relations there. so it's very surprising. i suspect it was, you know, maybe it was something to do with his family, or maybe it was the children. we probably won't know. but they said it definitely isn't anything to do with the princess of wales . of wales. >> and now let's move to on the next story. the worst nightmare could be the president versus the prince. of course . the prince. of course. revelations of harry's drug taking in spare may come back to haunt harry if the president trump gets in. >> well, president trump, as we all know, is a master at the pr move and he knew that mentioning prince harry in that vein was certainly going to get him some pubuchy certainly going to get him some publicity , which it has. but of publicity, which it has. but of course, if trump comes back, he is president and he can he can. he can do really more or less what he likes. but i think , um, what he likes. but i think, um, harry probably wasn't the wasn't

the wisest move that harry made to publicly criticise trump. it was meghan that publicly criticised trump and then harry was supposed to have had a conversation with meghan's father when he was speaking to him, you know, and they talked about trump. and trump about trump. and then trump described harry's book, 'spare' as a horrible book and when trump came over to the uk for his state visit, i remember because i was amongst the journalists there, i mean , harry journalists there, i mean, harry literally couldn't wait to get the other side of the room from him . him. >> um hmm. now, ingrid , um, of >> um hmm. now, ingrid, um, of course we remember those scenes when president trump, well before he was president trump, was humiliated by barack obama, laughed at an awards , though laughed at at an awards, though he being humiliated . he hates being humiliated. meghan markle, of course, said she might move to canada if trump got in. but here's the question, ingrid, if the sussexes became public enemy , sussexes became public enemy, one of donald trump, sussexes became public enemy, one of donald trump , the one of donald trump, the president, it might actually do the impossible and make them

popular . i the impossible and make them popular. i suppose you're absolutely. >> i mean, you're the politician, not me. but i think you're right. i think it might well make them popular because all the anti—trumpers, if that's what you call them, would then immediately on the of immediately go on the side of the and duchess of sussex the duke and duchess of sussex and, um, i yes, i think, i think it's very , very dangerous and it's very, very dangerous and difficult waters. and i think trump, if he becomes president, will have a lot of other things on his mind. other than harry. but knowing the way trump operates, which we all do, i mean, i don't think he will. i think he will have the odd swipe of him because he you know, it gets everybody going, having a swipe at harry. and i think trump will definitely do that. so superb. >> ingrid seward royal biographer , thank you much. biographer, thank you very much. i the story is delicious. i think the story is delicious. it's got everything. it's certainly keep close certainly one we'll keep a close eye thank you very much for eye on. thank you very much for joining show. and joining us on the show. and there's still loads more to come before we're later in the before we're done later in the show. tell you about show. i'll tell you about another round this time. another tory round this time. they're revolting a

they're revolting over a crackdown gambling. crackdown on gambling. that one conservative mp has called complete outrageous. but first, here's your latest news headunes here's your latest news headlines with polly middlehurst i >> -- >> martin, thank you. the headlines, headlines this hour suspended tory mp lee anderson has held private talks with the leader of the reform uk party leader, richard tice. it's fuelled speculation that the former deputy chair is about to defect to the rival party. gb news understands they met for in person talks in derbyshire on sunday. the meeting happened a day after lee anderson lost the whip for refusing to apologise for saying islamists had lost, had control of the london mayor, sadiq khan. meanwhile conservative mp paul scully has apologised for saying there are no go zones in birmingham and east london. the former minister made reference to areas with large muslim communities, comments which he now says he

regrets missed. scully admits he could have chosen his language more carefully , and the crooked more carefully, and the crooked house pub, which was destroyed in a suspected arson attack in the west midlands, is set to be rebuilt. locals were outraged when it was demolished just two days after the fire last august . days after the fire last august. an enforcement notice has now been issued against the owners for its unlawful demolition, with authorities ordering it be restored to its original state within three years. and queen camilla has led a memorial service for king constantine of greece for the royal family. the prince of wales, who was due to deliver a reading at the service, was forced to pull out due to a personal matter. kensington palace didn't elaborate but confirmed the princess of wales, who is recovering from abdominal surgery, is doing well . the king surgery, is doing well. the king also missed the service as he continues treatment for cancer. those are the headlines for the very latest stories. sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to

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jewellery jubes just broke that story about liz anderson meeting richard tice. no doubt you're going to be chewing that one oven going to be chewing that one over. yeah >> there's so much i want to get into tonight politically. of course. >> what is going on with lee anderson? of course. we saw him last night on patrick christys doubung last night on patrick christys doubling down, saying he's not going you've then going to apologise. you've then got of course, got paul scully, of course, going and i've going on to apologise. and i've got preview as well got an exclusive preview as well of a suella braverman interview, which tomorrow, which which previews tomorrow, goes which which previews tomorrow, goe she's which which previews tomorrow, goeshe's basically saying that >> she's basically saying that there is still so many areas where people are not integrating people that are in britain, but not of britain. she also goes on to say that there's a political resistance to controlling immigration, and she says that that comes right from rishi sunak. that comes right from rishi sunak . so i want to try and sunak. so i want to try and unpick all of that. um, also as well, i want to ask things like what you would, um, also been talking about things like defence, should we be spending more also a really more and also there's a really interesting proposal now in the nhs. if you assault nhs. martin, if you assault a member of staff whilst you're in the nhs trying to receive care,

should you then be banned from receiving care for i don't know, perhaps to year. i say perhaps up to a year. i say definitely . definitely yes. >> yeah. well, as usual, michelle dewberry mainlining common sense. hundreds of comments on this thing about no go zones today . michelle. most go zones today. michelle. most people say they think it's true. they've seen it where they live. and your show's always going to be fantastic. dewbs& co six till 7 pm. i've got to say to martin, try having a whole accent and having to say repeatedly, no go zones . repeatedly, no go zones. >> it is one of the trickiest sentences for a lady with my accent . i can tell you that for accent. i can tell you that for free. well look forward to that more in your show later on dewbs & co six till seven. >> thank you very much. now having a bet on the gigs is one of the few simple pleasures we've got left in life. but guess what? the government is trying clamp down that as trying to clamp down on that as well anything, they don't well as if anything, they don't want ban. martin daubney on want to ban. i martin daubney on gb news channel .

>> earlier on breakfast. labour is pledging to end the harassment of women online by tackling it at the source. >> this can involve bullying onune >> this can involve bullying online of a of a sexual nature , online of a of a sexual nature, misogynistic comments but also sadly within the classroom as well. the organisers of these protests probably should be forced into giving more notice of them because literally they're telling the met within days that there's going to be 100,000 or more people on the streets of london. >> we sit on the precipice of economic disaster, social, cultural , political and indeed cultural, political and indeed constitutional disaster. as a result of this concern of government from six. >> it's breakfast on gb news. and welcome back. >> it's 539 you're watching or listen to martin daubney on gb news. now a reminder of this hours news. now a reminder of this hour's huge breaking news. and it's this anderson has held it's this lee anderson has held private 1 to 1 talks with

richard tice , the leader of richard tice, the leader of reform uk, on sunday. and of course, that is fuelling speculation that lee anderson is about to defect to the rival party. now to yet another tory revolt and this time it's about gambling, a crackdown proposed by the government has been criticised, with conservative mp philip davies branding it's completely outrageous. several senior tories are calling on government to abandon its plans to impose affordability checks for gambling , and the proposals for gambling, and the proposals mean there would be those checks on anyone who loses as little as £125 a month, or £500 a year. well, i'm now joined by the ceo of the jockey club and the founder of the petition against the plans that has had now more than 100,000 signatures. never truesdell nevin, welcome to the show. so we can all agree responsible gambling is a good thing, but £125 a bet or £500 a yeah thing, but £125 a bet or £500 a year. this is nanny state gone mad, isn't it?

>> yes, martin, i think it's very clear at the outset to state that we all want to address the issue of problem gambling in this country, but it's also really important to keep problem in perspective. >> it impacts on infants . a >> it impacts on infants. a small proportion of the population , less than a quarter population, less than a quarter of 1% would be deemed as problem gamblers under general independent . and independent definitions. and whilst we want to make sure the gambling laws are updated to address make address those issues and make sure interventions are sure that the interventions are donein sure that the interventions are done in the right way at the right think what's being right time, i think what's being proposed which proposed here, which is basically blanket one size fits all checks that are going to impact just on betting on impact not just on betting on casinos slots, not just on casinos and slots, not just on sport, on all betting and sport, but on all betting and certainly racing, which certainly on horse racing, which is the that i is obviously the sport that i work promote. um, it's work in and promote. um, it's very important to make sure that the, the measures that are in place are in proportion . they place are in proportion. they don't overregulate and that they don't overregulate and that they don't put us in danger , which is don't put us in danger, which is what's happening at the minute of driving people into unregulated black market activity, because all that does is move the base where is move the activity base where

it can't it can't be it can't be seen, it can't be monitored . and actually you monitored. and actually you don't solve the problem. you just it to a place , um, just move it to a place, um, which means that you basically don't address it at all whilst damaging the revenues her damaging the revenues for her majesty's majesty's treasury, damaging revenues into horse racing, which, with a significant impact onto the number of jobs , the number of number of jobs, the number of horses in training at one of our one of our leading industries is with a with a big festival in two time cheltenham, two weeks time at cheltenham, just corner . so it is just around the corner. so it is state overreach. it's not an activity that is regulated and there's no other leisure activity that's regulated in that way by government or anybody else . nobody tells us anybody else. nobody tells us how much we can spend on shoes or clothes or a meal for two years was suggested in the debate yesterday. we're debate yesterday. so we're struggling something struggling to see why something that's like gambling that's enjoyed by millions of people perfectly safely should be regulated in this way. so philip is absolutely right. and of course, nevin, this kind of regulation has a profound impact. >> it says here an astonishing figure , up to £500 million a

figure, up to £500 million a year could be wiped off the horse racing industry after what happened during lockdown . and happened during lockdown. and this must be just exhausted . all this must be just exhausted. all threats to you. this is surely not what the industry needs at a time like this. >> this is i mean, i think we need to get this industry in perspective. it's a fantastic sport. it's, it's attended by well over 5 million people a yeah well over 5 million people a year. it's actually britain's second biggest spectator sport , second biggest spectator sport, only football ahead of it. it has three of the largest sporting for, i should say, of the largest sporting events in the largest sporting events in the country by attendance. um, it, it generates over 4 billion of economic benefit to the economy because it's a massive industry as well. you think of the people employed, you know, in yards and studs, all the ancillary businesses, the transporter , the farrier, all of transporter, the farrier, all of those businesses that depend on racing. about 88,000 jobs depend on the racing industry and any impact on the sport's finances. ultimately impacts on the amount of money coming into the ecosystem, which then impacts the number of horses in training

and the number of jobs provided in the industry. you go to places like millom and north yorkshire, lambourn in berkshire, newmarket, everyone everyone's in suffolk, everyone's heard of in suffolk, those are all horse racing centres where they the town . the centres where they the town. the area depends on the sport of racing and any impact to the sport's finances, especially as you say , martin, after the you say, martin, after the impact we've had, we've weathered well a sport weathered very well as a sport of this coming on top of of covid. this coming on top of thatis of covid. this coming on top of that is potentially very, very damaging indeed , very damaging damaging indeed, very damaging to those rural jobs that to those those rural jobs that depend upon . depend upon. >> okay. thank you very much for joining us. navy truesdale, the ceo of the jockey club. thanks for your input today. great stuff . now wherever those stuff. now wherever those brussels bigwigs look, there's trouble . the farmers are kicking trouble. the farmers are kicking off all over europe. populist parties are on the rise as the spirit of brexit infects the 27 member states. and now the eurozone could be about to go bust. yes get the violins out. i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel .

>> i'm christopher hope and i'm gloria de piero . gloria de piero. >> bringing you pmqs live here on gb news every wednesday we'll bnng on gb news every wednesday we'll bring you live coverage of prime minister's questions. >> when rishi sunak and sir keir starmer go head to head in the house of commons, we'll be asking our viewers and listeners to submit the questions that they would like to put to the prime minister, and we'll put that to our panel of top politicians in our westminster studio. pmqs live here on studio. that's pmqs live here on gb news. britain's election . gb news. britain's election. channel. welcome back. >> 548. we're on the final furlong of a fantastically fast moving show . you're watching and moving show. you're watching and listening to martin daubney on gb news. now let's get reaction to this huge breaking to this hour's huge breaking news and it's this the former conservative deputy party chairman with the tory party, lee anderson, has held private 1 to 1 talks with reform uk leader richard tice on sunday, and i'm

now joined in the studio by gb news senior political commentator nigel nelson for his take nigel, this, this melodrama rolls on. what's your take on the latest chapter? >> well, i mean, if all this comes to pass, we don't know whether or not there's an agreement yet or anything like that. but if it does happen, reform, get there first mp because at the moment lee anderson obviously has to sit as an independent. um, should he join reform , he can stay as join reform, he can stay as a reform mp until the general election. steve double, um tory for newquay was in here earlier. >> he was saying that there could and is still a way back into the conservative party for lee anderson, but james cleverly adamant lee must apologise. lee anderson adamant i will not apologise. read my lips . what's apologise. read my lips. what's the way back? is there a way back? >> there isn't a way back through that. and i thought rishi sunak was actually quite significant yesterday because what he said was that the reason

that lee had been suspended was because of what he said. he didn't mention anything about apologising beforehand . now, apologising beforehand. now, oliver dowden, the previous day had said , had he apologised, had said, had he apologised, that it wouldn't have been suspended, prime minister seemed to have a slightly different view, so? so at the moment it's possible if he actually actually said sorry, that he would be able to come back, but it's looking really unlikely. >> if quickly, could, >> so if quickly, if we could, nigel, if he does defect to reform , it's going to send reform, it's going to send seismic waves throughout the red wall. could be terrible for the conservative party if comes conservative party if it comes to it could be. to pass. yes, it could be. >> um, and obviously he'd have a lot, lot of trouble winning lot, of a lot of trouble winning the ashfield as the ashfield seat as a conservative anyway. so why not try for, you know, one last chance, go for reform. superb. >> nigel nelson, thank you very much. dramatic stuff. now let's move on because it was the biggest ever change in currency. it meant it was meant to bring stability. now it could be stability. but now it could be on the brink of going bust because to reports , because according to reports, the central bank in germany is

losing money. and experts claim if this continues, it will lead to the end of one of the eu's biggest experiments. well, joining us now is independent economist julian jessop. welcome to the show , julian. so the eu to the show, julian. so the eu zone the euro is in grave crisis . the headlines today. it could be on the verge of collapsing . be on the verge of collapsing. what's the latest. well i think some of those headlines are overdone . overdone. >> there might be an element of wishful thinking here. i don't think the eurozone or the central banks that make it up are about to go bust . but there are about to go bust. but there are about to go bust. but there are certainly some very big economic problems here. and the crisis that the central banks are facing are just those are facing are just making those worse . worse. >> um, this is another legacy of this policy printing this big policy of printing money over the last few years to buy government bonds. >> um, which sort of worked in the short tum. >> um, but the result has been that lots of central banks, um, not in eurozone, but not just in the eurozone, but around the world, are making big losses now. >> so, um, this bigger

>> so, um, this is a bigger problem, though, for the eurozone because these central problem, though, for the eurozo don't cause these central problem, though, for the eurozodon't causetheire central problem, though, for the eurozo don't causetheir own |tral banks don't have their own currency currency. >> f’— currency. >> just print their >> they can't just print their way of trouble like an way out of trouble like an ordinary central bank could do. and also a particular ordinary central bank could do. and that also a particular ordinary central bank could do. and that germany, particular ordinary central bank could do. and that germany, partithhe risk that germany, being the strongest economy or the most financially sound region , financially sound in the region, might end having to bail out might end up having to bail out other countries like italy and spain and greece. >> so there's sort of political problems as well. problems behind this as well. >> although i don't think the >> so although i don't think the region about to bust, region is about to go bust, there's be a lot of there's going to be a lot of economic and political fallout from that will keep people from this that will keep people nervous about the euro for, for years decades come. years and decades to come. >> and judy some of the >> and judy and some of the figures eye—watering. the figures are eye—watering. the bundesbank, of course, in germany, burned through 19 billion provisions , and the billion of provisions, and the dutch central bank has lost 3.5 billion. the ecb lost 1.5 billion. the ecb lost 1.5 billion. of course , quantitative billion. of course, quantitative easing printing money during lockdowns, the legacy, the pain , lockdowns, the legacy, the pain, the strain is looking pretty unforgivable as well. >> don't forget , of course, >> don't forget, of course, other central banks are losing money as well. >> so the federal reserve , the >> so the federal reserve, the us central bank, is losing money. the swiss national bank

has loads of well. has lost loads of money as well. um, bank england is um, the bank of england is starting to lose money on its purchases too, is a, you purchases too, which is a, you know, landed on the uk know, being landed on the uk taxpayer . taxpayer. >> um, so this is a global problem. but as i say, it's particular problem in the eurozone eurozone is eurozone because the eurozone is effective incomplete monetary effective, incomplete monetary union to make a monetary union work, you really need what's called a fiscal union. >> you need governments be willing to bail out other governments . governments. >> and you need a financial and banking well. banking union as well. >> basically it can go either >> so basically it can go either two ways. one is that we get this sort of completion of political union that the european union is supposed to be about. um, or the thing about. right. um, or the thing does break up now, i suspect it will be the former. >> i wouldn't underestimate the political will keep the show >> i wouldn't underestimate the politiceroad. vill keep the show on the road. >> uh, but looking at this from a sort of outsider's perspective, an perspective, if i were an international investor, i wouldn't the euro. wouldn't trust the euro. >> going to be a long time >> it's going to be a long time before establishes itself as before it establishes itself as a credible alternative the a credible alternative to the dollar. global reserve dollar. as a global reserve currency , we say superb stuff. currency, we say superb stuff. >> jessop, we have to >> julian jessop, we have to leave there. thanks

leave it there. thanks for joining before i end joining us. now, before i end the show, i want to go through a few your emails. hundreds and few of your emails. hundreds and hundreds of emails, especially reacting breaking news reacting to that breaking news here on the show. that's lee anderson has met the leader anderson has met with the leader of reform party, lee richard of the reform party, lee richard tice. ben says this lee anderson and richard tice at reform a marriage made in heaven. but jim is saying this don't. lee anderson. do not go to reform. stick with the tories. find a way back in your party needs to. joseph says this of course, lee anderson is right not to apologise. he's only saying what the majority of people think. it's a pity they are not more mps like him . the majority of mps like him. the majority of them are so weak , jim says about them are so weak, jim says about time someone showed some gut peter weak sunak and the tories should have backed their man, lee anderson. mike says this cleverly just made the tories even more unelectable. anderson doesn't need to apologise for simply telling the truth and

saying here paul scully came in the show earlier on. um, don't back—pedal paul. there are no go areas in britain. that's it. fantastic show. thanks for joining us. it's been an action packed one. stick around dewbs& co after the break, i'll join you tomorrow, three till 6 pm. thank you very much . thank you very much. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> good afternoon. welcome to your latest gb news weather update with me annie from the met office. rain will continue to push southwards through the rest day, and that's rest of the day, and that's because we have a weather because we do have a weather front sinking into northern areas parts areas of england and parts of wales by this wales in the midlands by this afternoon that's going to be bringing that spell of cloudier and wetter weather behind it, though it will turn much drier and clearer. that drizzly and clearer. but that drizzly rain will sink into parts of the south—east southeast to end the day. does turn clearer and day. it does turn clearer and

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paul scully. he's apologised for saying that there's no go areas . saying that there's no go areas. meanwhile, the suella braverman says that there are many folk in britain that are not of britain. what on earth actually is the state of this nation? are you keeping up with it all your thoughts please also , it looks thoughts please also, it looks like there'll be no extra money spent on defence come the budget next month. right decision or not. and if you're an nhs hospital and you assault hospital patient and you assault a member of staff, should you be