>> good morning. 930 on wednesday the 28th of february. this is britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pierce and bev turner. >> very good morning to you. thank for joining >> very good morning to you. thank forjoining us. you thank you for joining us. you have made your point. that's the message the home secretary. message from the home secretary. pro—palestine protesters, as he urges their urges them to stop their demonstrations and talking of security, more support for mps. >> the government's committed an extra £31 million to provide politicians with extra security measures, especially in their constituent houses and the houdayinn constituent houses and the holiday inn plot . holiday inn plot. >> in the heat of the tory islamist row, lee anderson had a secret meeting with reform uk leader richard tice. is he about

to jump ship .7 we're going to to jump ship? we're going to have richard in the studio, but katherine forster has more . katherine forster has more. >> yes, he came from labour, the conservative party offered him a home, but could lee anderson now go over to the reform party ? go over to the reform party? i'll bring you the details of that meeting shortly . that meeting shortly. >> no thanks. emmanuel macron britain has rejected a draft french plan to send nato troops into war in . ukraine and the into war in. ukraine and the royal protection verdict . royal protection verdict. >> the duke of sussex will learn whether he's won a high court challenge over a decision to change the level of his personal security during our show this morning, we'll bring you that when we have it . when we have it. and there's a huge farmers demonstration in cardiff , demonstration in cardiff, tractors descending on the welsh parliament building. >> remember, wales has been run

by labour for 20 years and they are very, very unhappy with the welsh labour government. we'll be at that protest. gb at gb news. >> com is the email address as always. first though, the very latest news headlines with sophia wenzler. >> thanks, bev. good morning. it's 931. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom. the duke of sussex will shortly learn whether he's won a high court challenge over a decision to change the level of his personal security. he launched legal action against the home office over the decision that he should receive a different degree of protection when he visits the uk . the court heard that harry believes his children cannot feel safe at home in the uk, and it's not possible to keep them safe. but the government has dismissed his claim, saying the dukeis dismissed his claim, saying the duke is still entitled to protection on a case by case bafis. protection on a case by case basis . mps protection on a case by case basis. mps are facing threats to their safety and will get extra security as part of a new £31

million government package . it million government package. it follows growing concerns over mps being targeted by protesters in recent months, since the outbreak of the israel—hamas war. the home office said the package would be used to increase private sector security provisions with all elected representatives to have a dedicated, named police contact to liaise with on security matters . as thousands of farmers matters. as thousands of farmers in wales will be demonstrating outside the senate later in a protest over a number of issues, they say are threatening the industry. farm owners are unhappy with proposals by changed farm subsidies, which would include a requirement for 10% of agriculture land to be used for trees. they would also be required to earmark another 10% for wildlife habitat it. but the labour government in the senate insists the change is necessary to fight climate change. but could be adjusted by the end of the consultation and any saving from the cut to national insurance will be wiped out by tory council tax rises .

out by tory council tax rises. that's according to the labour party . it that's according to the labour party. it comes that's according to the labour party . it comes after the party. it comes after the chancellor promised the largest ever tax cut for workers, with a 2% cut to national insurance , 2% cut to national insurance, but with 95% of council is expected to put up council tax to the maximum 4.99% from april, it's set to cancel out any savings . and for the latest savings. and for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen , or go to gb on your screen, or go to gb news. common alerts. now it's back to andrew and . bev back to andrew and. bev >> very good morning, 9.34. welcome to britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pearson. bev turner. >> so the home secretary's um , >> so the home secretary's um, uh, made an interesting intervention . he says he's fed intervention. he says he's fed up. who isn't with these marches in london, particularly in london every weekend , london every weekend, pro—palestine marches, he said they've made their point, uh, and that this follows the report, which says suggested it's cost about 25 million so

far. and he says you've made your point. now pack it up , your point. now pack it up, which is an extraordinary thing to say. >> you've made your point. the thing is, these people would tell you that the people in gaza who are still being relentlessly bombed , um, they continue to bombed, um, they continue to need this point being made for, for them, um, regardless of where you sit on the side of this debate, whether this action now by israel has gone over the top and he's just looking deliberately punitive. give, um, it kind of we still need to have the right to protest in this country . country. >> just i sort of get the principle. but if you're live in central, it's a nightmare . it's central, it's a nightmare. it's expensive. it's not making any difference whatsoever. like netanyahu , who gives a flying netanyahu, who gives a flying fig about anything the british parliament does, let alone a load of protesters. but also all those police officers. there are hundreds and hundreds. and yet when i saw the ukrainian march on friday, i hardly saw a police officer, hardly saw a police

officer, hardly saw a police officer, but the but the palestine marches hundreds because the police are frightened lot . well frightened of this lot. well they they're frightened of they are they're frightened of them. need be there them. if they need to be there to people , but they to arrest people, but they don't arrest people, don't arrest people, but they don't appear to arrest many people. and when we get the anti—semitic, anti—semitic chants, appear to chants, they don't appear to arrest appear to. >> i agree with you. this this march every weekend, this march show every weekend, this is go on and on and on is going to go on and on and on until conflict in the until that conflict in the middle will even so middle east will even more so now, because now the home secretary please don't. secretary says, please don't. >> will. secretary says, please don't. >> but will. made your point. >> but you've made your point. move then they're not move on. then they're not protesting about like animal cruelty beauty products. cruelty and beauty products. they're protesting about 30,000 children being orphaned in palestine, in gaza . so, um, let palestine, in gaza. so, um, let us know your thoughts this morning. gb views at gb news. com >> well, last weekend, you know, this story . >> well, last weekend, you know, this story. it's been running for a week now . gb news is lee for a week now. gb news is lee hanson sparked a row about islamism within the conservative party. the fallout is continuing. let's take a listen just to remind ourselves of what he actually said on gb news. >> i don't actually believe that

these islamists have got control of our country, but what i do believe is they've got control of khan and they've got control of khan and they've got control of london, and they've got control of storm as well. >> so lee refused to apologise for his comments. >> so lee refused to apologise for his comments . and this is for his comments. and this is what london mayor sadiq khan said last night. >> responsible politicians also know that racism and prejudice, no matter what form it takes , no matter what form it takes, regardless of whether it's anti—semitism or yes, islamophobia should be countered and condemned, not given a free pass or left unchallenged for electoral gain . electoral gain. >> that was sadiq khan at an award ceremony last night. but in a new development, it turns out that the tory mp lee anderson held private talks with the leader of the reform party, richard tice, over the weekend. so going to see so are we going to see a defection here? we're to defection here? we're going to talk richard stage left in talk to richard stage left in just a moment. but of all, just a moment. but first of all, let's to katherine forster in let's go to katherine forster in westminster. catherine, has westminster. catherine, what has the reaction been from labour in

general about all of this, not just sadiq khan ? just sadiq khan? >> well , to be honest, the >> well, to be honest, the labour party are really quite happy to see what's going on because it's quite extraordinary . we this time last week we were talking about the vote that there was going to be in the house of commons, how it was going to prove very difficult for sir keir starmer, how divisions in the labour party were going to be out in the open, possible resignations, etc. and because of the decision that the speaker of the house of commons commons made that vote didn't happen. and then because of everything that followed from the chaos in the commons and threats to mps secured city, that led to pieces from suella braverman that led to lee anderson's comments about the mayor of london uh, basically being in the pocket of islamists. and this extraordinary row now within the

conservative party and the booting out of lee anderson , a booting out of lee anderson, a man who until just a few weeks ago was deputy chair of that party, a man who was highly valued by number 10 in that he was able to say the things that rishi sunak couldn't. but that a lot of people felt that. so now i was at the, uh, reform party conference. i was talking to richard tice on saturday day, uh, when lee anderson had the conservative whip taken away from him. and we now learn that the very next day they richard tice met, uh, lee anderson on his way back from the reform conference in doncaster in a houdayinn conference in doncaster in a holiday inn close to lee anderson's constituency. now we don't know what will happen, but obviously if lee anderson went to reform, that would be a big win for them. they're about 13% in the polls and also that would send a worrying message to a lot

of voters about the conservatives and the red wall all right. >> thank you very much. katherine forster here. well, the man himself is here. what's happening? very good morning to you. well, now, don't don't give us of your political like us any of your political like flannel here, give flannel here, i'll give you here. richard want to here. richard tice. i want to know. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> everybody know. >> but everybody wants to know. >> but everybody wants to know. >> what i've >> and i will say what i've always said. i'm not giving a running commentary who i running commentary of who i speak to whichever party, speak to from whichever party, whether them, whether i've spoken to them, whether i've spoken to them, whether met or whether i've met them or whatever. >> bothered about >> we're not bothered about anyone else. we just want to know about leander. absolutely anyone else. we just want to know abyou leander. absolutely anyone else. we just want to know abyou know,r. absolutely anyone else. we just want to know abyou know, i absolutely anyone else. we just want to know abyou know, i have lutely anyone else. we just want to know abyou know, i have to ely >> but, you know, i have to treat fairly. not treat everybody fairly. i'm not giving commentary. giving a running commentary. what that the what i am saying is that the tory party have got themselves in a complete utter pickle tory party have got themselves in a thisplete utter pickle tory party have got themselves in a this issue, utter pickle tory party have got themselves in a this issue, and|tter pickle tory party have got themselves in a this issue, and you pickle tory party have got themselves in a this issue, and you just le over this issue, and you just had the clip there of sadiq khan. let's be very clear what's going on he is a man who going on here. he is a man who is seeking to divide smear going on here. he is a man who is selabel to divide smear going on here. he is a man who is selabel andiivide smear going on here. he is a man who is selabel and ultimately;mear going on here. he is a man who is selabel and ultimately he'sr and label and ultimately he's looking suppress date looking to suppress debate, date and look, lee's and discussion. look, lee's admitted what he was clumsy admitted what he said was clumsy . out a statement on . i put out a statement on monday . yes, clumsy is right. monday. yes, clumsy is right. but actually he speaks the sentiment of what he was trying to say is, is actually supported

by millions and millions of british citizens who are furious about what's going on on our streets . streets. >> was he islamophobic ? this >> was he islamophobic? this debate is all about language , debate is all about language, richard. it is. >> and the answer to that is quite clearly no. in fact, it's nowhere near no, we don't have a legal statutory definition of islamophobia, but the best one is by the people who first invented the word. it's the runnymede trust. and i'll read you what their definition is that they recommend to the united nations and the british government, a fear , prejudice government, a fear, prejudice and hatred of muslims that leads to provocation, hostility and intolerance by means of threatening harassment , abuse, threatening harassment, abuse, incitement intimidation of incitement and intimidation of muslims both in the online and offline world. i mean that is their definition, right ? that is their definition, right? that is nowhere near where what lee was. and frankly , that proves that and frankly, that proves that sadiq khan actually is using this to try and suppress debate , this to try and suppress debate, because whenever he disagrees with someone or someone disagrees with him, all he

labels them, he labelled me a far right racist because i was anti—lockdown down. that's what he does. and it's appalling and it's got to be called out. so what lee said was nowhere near the best definition of islamophobia and the tories haven't signed up to the definition of it anyway, which is their own stupidity, frankly. >> yeah. but talking of language in deputy, ben in clumsy, your deputy, ben habib , clearly isn't keen on habib, clearly isn't keen on this man , lee anderson joining this man, lee anderson joining the tory party, quoting newspaper. >> you mean you mean joining reform, rejoining reform? >> i'd be >> sorry. forgive me. i'd be circumspect about who circumspect about anyone who can't themselves can't express themselves accurately, and in accurately, clearly, and in matters great sensitivity. matters of great sensitivity. lee got a grasp , lee clearly hasn't got a grasp, in my view, of the language required to identify address in my view, of the language reqlproblem.|entify address the problem. >> look and so by >> yeah, look and so by everybody, he doesn't want i mean that's actually that's actually not the point. the point is by everybody's reckoning, lee speaks from reckoning, ben lee speaks from the millions the heart. and actually millions of british citizens appreciate that. he just tells it as he sees it. and occasionally you're live on tv. you slightly get the words in the wrong order. what's much hurty much more important than hurty worthy is what's worthy words, frankly, is what's going the streets and

going on on the streets and whether the streets of whether it's the streets of london or the streets of rochdale we are being we are being terrified . and i've got being terrified. and i've got candidates being issued with death threats. yeah, right. i've candidates being issued with deatto threats. yeah, right. i've candidates being issued with deatto move .. yeah, right. i've candidates being issued with deatto move my ah, right. i've candidates being issued with deatto move my staffght. i've candidates being issued with deatto move my staff out i've candidates being issued with deatto move my staff out of 'e had to move my staff out of accommodation. we've got the jewish community in london terrified . the police in terrified. the police in parliament terrified . and parliament square terrified. and now is a terrible situation now this is a terrible situation , ian. and it was literally here exactly 20 weeks ago. october the 11th. i said the right to protest does not give you the right to break the law. i was right to break the law. i was right then. sadly, these marches have been allowed to go ahead. they've broken the law in multiple cases and they have created a sense terror and fear. >> well, i agree with a lot of that. so would you do you agree with they should stop that. so would you do you agree with cleverly, they should stop that. so would you do you agree with cleverly, once should stop that. so would you do you agree with cleverly, once again,i stop now, cleverly, once again, cleverly has expressed it completely wrongly. >> what he should >> yeah, right. what he should be these marches are be saying is these marches are inciting and inciting hatred and anti—semitism , and that's why anti—semitism, and that's why they've stop. yeah. of they've got to stop. yeah. of course they have the right to protest it protest is sacrosanct, but it doesn't the right to doesn't give you the right to break the law. >> but individuals first week because individuals break the law, protest cannot break the law.

>> thankfully, in this country, a protest cannot break the law. >> have you been to any of these marches? >> i have, i have driven past the palestinian. >> you actually you >> have you actually have you have actually been into them have you actually been into them and them? and talked to them? >> haven't, but i was >> no, i haven't, but i was surprised by will say i was surprised by i will say i was surprised by i will say i was surprised by i will say i was surprised by how many national trust card holding do gooders in their jumpers there? >> many t“ t middle class >> how many white middle class people thermos people were the little thermos flask also in those flask of coffee also in those marches? flask of coffee also in those ma i'ves? into two of them, >> i've been into two of them, and on both occasions they were vile abusive. i just and on both occasions they were vile them, abusive. i just and on both occasions they were vile them, ibusive. ijust and on both occasions they were vile them, i said,a. ijust and on both occasions they were vile them, i said, do just and on both occasions they were vile them, i said, do you want asked them, i said, do you want to release the hostages? do you condemn october and do condemn october the 7th and do you hamas ? and they you condemn hamas? and they weren't to it on weren't prepared to do it on october the before israel october the 9th, before israel had they at had even responded. they were at this these people, want to this these people, they want to terrorise us. they to bully terrorise us. they want to bully us. it's unaccept and they us. and it's unaccept and they and they also want an instant ceasefire with hamas still has huge parts of control, a one sided ceasefire is called surrender. yeah. so look, i've been right. i've been proven 110% right on this. the government has been utterly weak. cleverly is now being clueless with words and

clueless with his words and therefore, you're right about it's not about the right to protest . it's about the right to protest. it's about the right to bully, intimidate , hurt and bully, intimidate, hurt and break the law. >> and those people should be arrested. >> but we've got to push you. i'm afraid, on this individual. you said you can't a running you said you can't do a running commentary. is lee anderson going reform uk ? going to join reform uk? >> giving a running >> no, i'm not giving a running commentary on those discussions. >> honestly, no. >> honestly, no. >> andrew, you want him to. >> andrew, you want him to. >> let's brainstorm the pros and cons. what would the pros be of lee joining reform, lee anderson joining reform, do you anderson you think for you lee anderson speaks millions of people up speaks for millions of people up and the country who and down the country who are furious going on and furious with what's going on and how security the whole how our security and the whole atmosphere the country is changing. >> and that's in that sense, you know, frankly, the tory party, i think they've got it completely wrong. but abandoning him, he's a liability because a potential liability because that's he's saying. that's what he's saying. >> might the negatives. no. >> what might the negatives. no. >> what might the negatives. no. >> what might the negatives. no. >> what what the negatives >> what what might the negatives be? frankly, knows. but i'm be? frankly, who knows. but i'm not giving a running commentary. >> we can discuss what the negatives be. the negatives might be. the negatives might be. the negatives might be some people see some people. >> you do a headline about. >> you can do a headline about. you can discuss that. i'm not

discussing taking a headline about anderson. discussing taking a headline aboand anderson. discussing taking a headline aboand they'llerson. discussing taking a headline aboand they'll say,. discussing taking a headline aboand they'll say, oh, the >> and they'll say, oh, he's the he's the islamophobic guy. oh, now reform. if now he's joined reform. if they're splashing in they're just splashing around in they're just splashing around in the story that the shallows of this story that could badly on reform, the shallows of this story that could is badly on reform, the shallows of this story that could is why badly on reform, the shallows of this story that could is why the ly on reform, the shallows of this story that could is why the definition m, the shallows of this story that could is why the definition that which is why the definition that i've out is the important i've read out is the important thing focus on. thing to focus on. >> and the tory party and the labour party, they won't do that because to because they're using it to their own political ends. i'm talking the right talking about the right definition. the runnymede trust definition. the runnymede trust definition. people definition. that's what people should stop. and actually definition. that's what people shoulsadiq stop. and actually definition. that's what people shoulsadiq khan and actually definition. that's what people shoulsadiq khan isnd actually definition. that's what people shoulsadiq khan is doing,|ally definition. that's what people shoulsadiq khan is doing, he's what sadiq khan is doing, he's the one creating division and anxiety. not lee anderson. anxiety. it's not lee anderson. >> let me let me ask you another question. how does it work in the constitution of the reform uk? he does want to join your uk? if he does want to join your party, is in gift you're party, is it in your gift you're the leader or do you have a committee? it has to go through. how these things how do these things work? >> we're team and we >> we're a great team and we discuss things we discuss all these things and we come conclusion as you come to a conclusion as you would expect by well—run, it's would expect by a well—run, it's not decision for it's not a decision for you. it's we're great team. not a decision for you. it's we'we'll reat team. not a decision for you. it's we'we'll discuss m. not a decision for you. it's we'we'll discuss it. not a decision for you. it's we'we'll discuss it for you. >> we'll discuss it for you. >> we'll discuss it for you. >> and it is ultimately ultimately, someone has to make the decision, of course. and that ultimately, that would be you. ultimately, that's boss. that's the boss. >> would negatives be

>> what would the negatives be of conservative party? of for the conservative party? >> anderson and >> if lee anderson comes and joins reform, they've already had negatives. had the negatives. >> they're had the negatives. >> absolute they're had the negatives. >> absolute chaos. they're had the negatives. >> absolute chaos. theythey're had the negatives. >> absolute chaos. they don't; in absolute chaos. they don't know they're talking about. know what they're talking about. they definition they don't know the definition of they're all of islamophobia. they're all petrified. and they just look ridiculous. >> no, no. >> no, no, no. >>— >> no, no, no. >> come on, let's use our imagination. leaves, if imagination. if he leaves, if want former deputy want the well, former deputy leader conservative party leader of the conservative party joins uk in next few joins reform uk in the next few days. does that tell the days. what does that tell the british public the british public about the conservative party? >> they're and >> that they're clueless and out of touch with the british people >> that they're clueless and out of towantvith the british people >> that they're clueless and out of towant these e british people >> that they're clueless and out of towant these e british ofople who want these marches of anti—semitic hate stopped? that's reality . people are that's the reality. people are furious and it's led to where we've got to. if they'd stop these marches day one because of what they were doing, then my candidate in rochdale would not be having death threats. two days ago. that's the reality . days ago. that's the reality. and that's where this has gone. that's what happens you that's what happens when you have leadership have weak, feeble leadership demonstrated the met boss, demonstrated by the met boss, met chief boss by sadiq khan, who's a responsible for london security by the home secretary and by the prime minister i'm right. they're all weak, they're feeble. and that's led us to where we are.

>> okay, don't go anywhere, richard. stay with us. up next, the has pledged the government has pledged over £30 bolster £30 million to bolster bolster the security for mps. meanwhile, labour's harriet harman wants politicians to work from home to stop them under pressure stop them feeling under pressure or she does it. britain's newsroom on .

gb news. so we've still got richard tice for this. >> so richard, £30 million additional security measures for mps . we know what happened to mps. we know what happened to david amess murdered in his constituency surgery. cox was constituency surgery. jo cox was murdered in the street. they probably do need some help. >> afraid that's >> i'm afraid that's the consequence we've just consequence of what we've just been talking about. if you allow this extremism to grow unabated , this extremism to grow unabated, covid and emboldened because the police are not going to do anything about it, that's the way you end up spending tens and tens and tens of millions of pounds taxpayers cash to pounds of taxpayers cash to protect elected

protect our elected representatives and those who are election. having are seeking election. i'm having to my own security, to think about my own security, my candidate security , because, my candidate security, because, you polling the you know, we're polling the third party and we've third largest party and we've got a very clear stance on this. and, you know, i've got the gratitude and support of huge chunks of jewish community chunks of the jewish community saying, you for standing saying, thank you for standing up us this absurdity up for us against this absurdity and important is it that mps and how important is it that mps remain visible because a lot of mps are now saying, you've got to have an appointment before you constituency surgery, they normally in the local normally advertise in the local paper website. paper on the website. >> they if all stops and >> if they if that all stops and we go down the harriet harman route, work from home, do all constituency surgeries remotely, that's a between people. >> it is breaking the link and it's dire. it's very sad. but i'm afraid these are the unintended consequences of what's happened and real leadership by the prime minister. and the home secretary says this all stops. we're sick of it. the country is sick of it. we're not tolerating it. bnng it. we're not tolerating it. bring about some proper respect for the laws of this country and unless they do that, this gets

worse and worse. >> so just like in a practical terms, if you ban people from walking through london on a saturday with a palestinian , saturday with a palestinian, that's not not you don't that's not that's not you don't you mean the same thing. you don't mean the same thing. you're not tying those two together. >> actually. >> actually. >> actually, in terms of with the palestinian flag, unfortunately, that has now been hijacked pro—hamas hijacked by the pro—hamas extremists. reality. extremists. that is the reality. and that's again, another unintended consequence. so yeah, i'm afraid, i'm afraid. >> go to tower hamlets where that mp said was in that tory mp said it was in parts a no go zone. he's now parts are a no go zone. he's now changed his mind. >> this is the flags are everywhere and i know bev. it's dire. but that's where this has gone because the security teams and the police and the authorities and the leaders like sadiq khan, they have not led from the front with by example, but if say to people, you but if you say to people, you cannot protest at the weekend, what effectively saying what you're effectively saying is not provide is we will not provide the police for these police support for these sorts of protests. >> they will turn up >> they they will turn up anyway. no, no, no, that's not what you're saying. >> no, that's absolutely >> no, no, no, that's absolutely not what you're saying. you're saying you're not. protest at the have the weekend. we'll have the police. have and

police. we'll have the tsg. and if try and protest, we'll if you try and protest, we'll have the army the streets. have the army on the streets. we're tolerating it in we're not tolerating it in france, hang in france, in france. hang on. in france, in france. hang on. in france, cited an france, they deport. cited an imam for basically, um, for describing the french flag as satanic. he was deported within a day. that is leadership that people then start to respect law and order. and i think that's what the majority of the british people, boris johnson, wasn't even allowed a water even allowed to use a water cannon when he was mayor of london, walked the home london, walked by the home office. are wet, feeble office. if you are wet, feeble and gutless, that's where end and gutless, that's where we end up. those things. up. i'm none of those things. and i was in charge, we would and if i was in charge, we would not where we are today. not be where we are today. >> water can be rather good, but the but people will protest >> but people will protest anyway, so we can't can't we can't not allowed. can't say you're not allowed. >> got go. we've got to >> we've got to go. we've got to give this list of candidates, richard. we've got to give the full the candidates in full list of the candidates in rochdale. they uh, you know rochdale. they are, uh, you know them heart as are ali, them off by heart as are ali, who will on the candidate as who will be on the candidate as labour mark coleman, independent simon, ian simon, deanship reform uk ian johnson, liberal democrat paul oates george galloway. >> party of britain >> workers party of britain michael independent michael howarth, independent william michael howarth, independent will otten, party.

michael howarth, independent willotten, party. raven guy otten, green party. raven rodent sebby's corner, official monster loony party monster raving loony party and david attendant, monster raving loony party and davialso attendant, monster raving loony party and davialso , attendant, monster raving loony party and davialso , have attendant, monster raving loony party and davialso , have we attendant, monster raving loony party and davialso , have we got ndant, monster raving loony party and davialso , have we got enough and also, have we got enough time no one's. we time now that no one's. we haven't. we've out time. haven't. we've run out of time. we'll see soon, richard tice. >> we'll see you when we'll see you when you get your uh. you when you get your new, uh. >> um, when you get your first mp. >> you lent me a pen. you lent me holiday inn pen, which presumably. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb solar sponsors of weather on. gb news morning. >> i'm alex burkill and here's your latest gb news. weather update . it is going to turn update. it is going to turn increasingly wet from the west as we go through today, but for the time being, there's some significant around, significant fog around, particularly of particularly across parts of england and wales, could cause some roads. some problems on the roads. if you're early, but in you're heading out early, but in the west it's a wet start to the day. rain initially day. heavy rain across initially northern ireland into northern ireland pushing into parts of scotland, england and wales heavy, wales likely to turn heavy, particularly any higher particularly over any higher ground, over the ground, especially over the higher of wales all the higher ground of wales all the time, though across the southeast of the uk staying largely dry at least during

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gb news. >> good morning. 10 am. on wednesday the 28th of february. this is britain's newsroom on gb news with me bev turner and andrew pierce. >> so more support for mps. the government has committed an extra £31 million to give those politicians extra security measures . measures. >> and talking of security , a >> and talking of security, a royal protection verdict the duke of sussex will learn any minute whether he's won a high court challenge over a decision to change the level of his personal security. whilst he's in the uk. we're going to bring you that as it breaks . you that as it breaks. >> you've made your point. well, that's the view of the home secretary, james cleverly, about the pro—palestine protesters who bnng the pro—palestine protesters who bring london grinding to a halt every saturday. he says time to stop . stop. >> and welsh farmers fury. well, thousands of fed up farmers are

protesting today against changes . to their livelihood and the way that they have to run their farms. we're going to be talking to two of the key protagonists and no thanks. >> president macron, britain has rejected a completely ban me french plan to send nato troops into battle in ukraine. >> and this might make you hungry. it's a huge day today for fish and chip lovers. some of the top chippies in britain will be competing at the national fish and chip awards this this afternoon. we're going to talking of the to be talking to two of the competitors . competitors. it might almost be my last suppen it might almost be my last supper. fish and chips. do you like fish and chips? >> uh, i, i love cod in batter, but i get bored with the chips halfway . through. halfway. through. >> but when we were kids, fry day night because we were catholics. fish and chips you get from the local chippy, i do.

what kind of sociopath are you who gets bored chips? i do, who gets bored of chips? i do, i just i've enough of those. just i've had enough of those. but. i put too much salt on but. and i put too much salt on them well. them as well. >> oh, that might be the reason why. >> and too much tomato ketchup. >> and too much tomato ketchup. >> what good and >> what makes good fish and chips? us know this morning. chips? let us know this morning. gb gb news. com first gb views at gb news. com first though, very latest news though, the very latest news with wenzler . with sophia wenzler. >> thanks, bev. good morning. it's 10:02. i'm sofia wenzler in it's10:02. i'm sofia wenzler in the gb newsroom. your top story. the duke of sussex will shortly learn whether he's won a high court challenge over a decision to change the level of his personal security. he launched . personal security. he launched. legal action against the home office over the decision that he should receive a different degree of protection when he visits uk. the court heard visits the uk. the court heard that harry believes his children cannot at in uk, that harry believes his children canrit's at in uk, that harry believes his children canrit's not at in uk, that harry believes his children canrit's not possible in uk, that harry believes his children canrit's not possible to uk, that harry believes his children canrit's not possible to keep k, and it's not possible to keep them safe. but the government has dismissed his claim, saying the still entitled to the duke is still entitled to protection on a case by case basis. mps are facing threats to their security as part of a new

£31 million government package. it follows growing concerns over mps being targeted by protest actors in recent months. since the outbreak of the israel—hamas war, the home office said the package would be used to increase private sector security provisions. whether will elected representative gives to have a dedicated named police contact to liaise with on security matters, policing minister chris philp says democracy won't function without their safety . function without their safety. >> it's vital for democracy that elected representatives, members of parliament and others can discharge their duties without fear or intimidation. if mps can't do their jobs and use their judgement without any can't do their jobs and use theirjudgement without any sort their judgement without any sort of external intimidation , then of external intimidation, then democracy itself can't function . democracy itself can't function. >> thousands of farmers in wales will be demonstrating outside the senate later in a protest over a number of issues. they say are threatening the industry . farmers are unhappy with proposals by the change. farm

subsidies , which would include a subsidies, which would include a requirement for 10% of agricultural land to be used for trees. they would also be required to earmark another 10% for wildlife habitat . but the for wildlife habitat. but the labour government in the senate insists the change is necessary to fight climate change, but could be adjusted by the end of the consultation. any savings from the cut to national insurance will be wiped out by tory council tax rises. that's according to the labour party. it comes after the chancellor promised the largest ever tax cut for workers, with the 2% cut to national insurance, but with 95% of councils expected to put up council tax by the maximum 4.99% from april, it's set to cancel out any savings . labour's cancel out any savings. labour's shadow financial . secretary shadow financial. secretary james murray, says it's another broken promise from the tories. >> the government are effectively forcing councils to put council tax , and what put up council tax, and what that increase council tax that increase in council tax means is that any savings families might make from national insurance cuts this

year being wiped out. so year are being wiped out. so when rishi says that he's when rishi sunak says that he's cutting , it's another cutting taxes, it's another broken because taxes are broken promise because taxes are still course to be the still on course to be the highest in 70 years. 25 tax rises in this parliament alone , rises in this parliament alone, you know, and the low economic growth combined with those tax rises people rises is why people across britain feeling worse off. britain are feeling worse off. >> office chaos is to blame >> home office chaos is to blame for asylum seeker backlog costing the taxpayer millions of pounds. costing the taxpayer millions of pounds . that's the warning from pounds. that's the warning from a think tank. it found over 55,000 asylum seekers are stuck in a queue waiting for their applications to be determined. the institute for public policy research is calling on the home office to start processing claims in a bid to clear the backlog. it comes as the asylum system costs 3.97 billion in the year 2022 to 2023, compared with 500 million a decade earlier . 500 million a decade earlier. the future site of the uk's biggest electric vehicle battery manufacturing facility has been confirmed in somerset at indian conglomerate tata says it will

invest 4 billion in a brownfield site in the bridgwater area of the county. the new plant is expected to create around 4000 jobs and thousands more in the supply chain to says battery production is set to begin there . in 2026, and a five day walkout by junior doctors in the long running pay dispute is set to conclude later. it's the 10th time doctors have stopped work since march last year. the british medical association is requesting a 35% pay rise, which the government says is unreasonable. rishi sunak denied trying to run down the nhs by insisting his government had delivered record funding for the health service. more than 1.3 million appointments and operations have already been cancelled rescheduled since cancelled or rescheduled since industrial began . and for industrial action began. and for the latest tory sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen , or go to code on your screen, or go to gbnews.com slash alerts. now it's back to andrew and . bev.

it's back to andrew and. bev. >> what is the time? it is 1006 with britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pearson bev turner. >> coming up, we're going to be talking about whether prince harry will win his. well, we will find out whether he's won his battle the his legal battle against the government over his security arrangements . that be arrangements. that should be breaking any minute. also, you've getting touch at you've been getting in touch at home. lee anderson home. donald says lee anderson was what he was absolutely right in what he said. class in said. the political class in this are and have been this country are and have been a bunch of cowards for years now, allowing situation to, allowing this situation to, to happen. and says, what happen. and len says, what a tragedy that one of the few honest men we have in politics can't party he can can't find a party where he can feel home. well, he might feel at home. well, he might have party in the have found that party in the reform party, of course. yeah >> rob about lee. lee >> and rob says about lee. lee is person who speaks is the only person who speaks for millions. lee for millions. john says lee anderson is hero. and bertie anderson is my hero. and bertie says if anderson and like minded mps a proper party, all mps formed a proper party, all reform join reform supporters would join it. he obviously doesn't think reforms party. reforms are proper party. >> think richard tice would >> i think richard tice would probably probably would, probably argue, probably would, with . now there are with that. now there are concerns mps being concerns about mps being targeted protesters recent targeted by protesters in recent

months. outbreak of months. since the outbreak of the war. the israel—hamas war. >> james cleverly >> home secretary james cleverly is calling for those pro—palestinian pro palestinian marches london grind marches which bring london grind to to stop now . to every saturday to stop now. >> so we're joined the studio by sketchwriter and columnist for the daily telegraph. madeline grant. um, what is your assessment of this situation? madeleine has been madeleine really, which has been over few days with over the last few days with lee anderson, what would be the negative the negative lives for the conservative party joins conservative party if he joins reform ? well, say, what does it reform? well, say, what does it tell the electorate? well i think what it what it would tell the electorate, it would signal that some would think that it would show that perhaps the conservative party is not serious, serious enough about tackling islamist islamism , for example. >> i mean, i personally think that what leander said was incredibly misguided and he went too far. there was a grain of truth in what he said, but he tookit truth in what he said, but he took it too far, and it allowed westminster to do what it loves best, to have a navel gazing contest rather talking contest rather than talking about very real and

about the very real and substantive issue that last week's proceedings in the commons raised, the fact that our democracy is essentially subverted intimidation of subverted by the intimidation of protesters. the protesters. this is the important and now important issue. and now westminster have its westminster gets to have its four day dialogue about what lee anderson said and i think he did go too far. but there was some truth to what he said. yeah. >> um, and he admits he used clumsy language. yeah, but he should apologised for should have apologised for having clumsy language. having used clumsy language. and i the word about i think it was the word about your i think that that your mates. i think that that was what really took it too far. and made a similar and he could have made a similar point without going that far, which have been suggesting point without going that far, wsort have been suggesting point without going that far, wsort nepotism.een suggesting a sort of nepotism. >> um, which or a kind of a sort of corruption in terms of maybe, you know, look after people as, as, done of as, as politicians have done of any religion or any particular religion or ethnicity since the beginning ethnicity or since the beginning of time, pretty much. >> was islamists, you >> i think it was islamists, you know, saying that your mates with islamists, that's quite i mean, if i remember right, and controlled by them. yes, exactly. that was, exactly. that was, that was, that that was tricky. um, that was that was tricky. um, but think now that it but i think that now that it looks the conservative party um, they will be accused of weakness

and lee anderson is a is a very effective communicator . and has effective communicator. and has lots of fans. and apparently there are lots of backbench tory mps who are upset with the pm because they desperately like having lee anderson come to their events their constituency events because he a he's fun because he was a he's a fun speaker enjoy hearing speaker and people enjoy hearing from mps i've talked from him and the mps i've talked to this week say they didn't need to make apologise. to this week say they didn't neetheymake apologise. to this week say they didn't neethey justz apologise. to this week say they didn't neethey just should pologise. to this week say they didn't neethey just should have ise. to this week say they didn't neethey just should have said, >> they just should have said, clarify remarks. yeah, clarify your remarks. yeah, yeah. clarified his yeah. if he'd clarified his remarks public, he remarks in public, which he would have happily we saw would have happily done, we saw the put out which the statement he put out which tory suppressed tory central office suppressed for couple days. we brought tory central office suppressed fo on couple days. we brought tory central office suppressed fo on onto le days. we brought tory central office suppressed fo on onto this days. we brought tory central office suppressed fo on onto this programmerought tory central office suppressed fo on onto this programme first,t it on onto this programme first, and very, very and it was very, very thoughtful, thought, and thoughtful, i thought, and i agreed absolutely pretty agreed with absolutely pretty much said it. yeah. >> and i do understand his reservations about apologising, because that as soon because it is true that as soon as mp apologises for one as one mp apologises for one thing leads clarion thing that leads to clarion calls from labour for further apologies of other apologies for all sorts of other things, they're now saying, well, let's take the whip off, um, truss for her sojourns um, liz truss for her sojourns in america. um, you know, it doesn't necessarily make the problem always go away. >> i've heard the comparisons

made between richard tice meeting lee anderson in a houdayinn meeting lee anderson in a holiday inn at the weekend and in fact, he'd get richard tice gave me a pen when he came in, andifs gave me a pen when he came in, and it's a holiday in pen, so i'm keeping this as of i'm keeping this as a bit of political memorabilia the political memorabilia by the way, this might significant. political memorabilia by the waydidis might significant. political memorabilia by the waydid youight significant. political memorabilia by the waydid you sign significant. political memorabilia by the waydid you sign theignificant. political memorabilia by the waydid you sign the transfert. >> did you sign the transfer deal anderson? is that deal with lee anderson? is that the transfer deal? >> the pen, the drawing? >> is this the pen, the drawing? >> is this the pen, the drawing? >> comparisons with the famous tony blair, gordon brown meeting in restaurant, in the restaurant, which was called granita restaurant? in the restaurant, which was callyeah. granita restaurant? in the restaurant, which was callyeah. isranita restaurant? in the restaurant, which was callyeah. is thata restaurant? in the restaurant, which was callyeah. is that overstating? in the restaurant, which was callyeah. is that overstating it oh, yeah. is that overstating it a little? >> don't w" w-— >> oh, i don't know. um, i mean, i think if, if lee anderson goes, it obviously helps. um, it helps reform because they then have a someone who can actually make their points for them in parliament, rather than relying on, you know, tv and newspapers to get that point across . um, to get that point across. um, and, and it will also distract westminster from everything else. they're very fickle people in westminster lobby, and in the westminster lobby, and they'd much rather deal with, with this than any of the kind of underlying issues facing society. >> and the challenge, of course, is have is that reform have a recognition issue. and this will put the front of put them on the front page of the and raise awareness.

the papers and raise awareness. let's what sadiq khan said let's hear what sadiq khan said last night. he at an award last night. he was at an award ceremony in london, i believe, and opportunity on and he took the opportunity on stage, as he does, to stage, of course, as he does, to make point responsible make a point responsible politicians also know that racism and prejudice, no matter what form it takes, regard less of whether it's anti—semitism or yes, islam . yes, islam. >> a phobia should be countered and condemned , not given a free and condemned, not given a free pass or left unchallenged for electoral gain . electoral gain. >> now that was at the national kebab awards last night. i wasn't invited , you know, i wasn't invited, you know, i quite like kebab. i would have been quite liked an invitation, but the room didn't exactly give him a rousing applause, did they, madeleine? >> i couldn't quite tell, because it was in full flow because if it was in full flow there, maybe it wasn't like a pause for applause. but he's not the he's quite an the most. he's quite an underwhelming speaker. yes he is. often thought for underwhelming speaker. yes he iscat. often thought for underwhelming speaker. yes he iscat. imean,1ought for underwhelming speaker. yes he iscat. imean, say,ht for underwhelming speaker. yes he iscat. imean, say, what for underwhelming speaker. yes he iscat. imean, say, what you a cat. i mean, say, what you like about boris johnson and ken livingstone. they're both really strong personalities with massive charisma. don't see

massive charisma. i don't see how sadiq i think, is how sadiq khan, i think, is quite quite apart from his quite a quite apart from his shoddy ruling of this city, is quite a disappointing replacement for those two. >> they both big, big >> they were both big, big figures, weren't yes, they figures, weren't they? yes, they were politicians. >> they yet yet he was voted >> they yet and yet he was voted in as london mayor he is highly likely to win again. yeah. >> oh yeah. >> oh yeah. >> the poll on the front of the evening standard last night, >> the poll on the front of the eveninhimandard last night, >> the poll on the front of the evenin him adard last night, >> the poll on the front of the evenin him a 25d last night, >> the poll on the front of the evenin him a 25 point night, >> the poll on the front of the evenin him a 25 point lead,, >> the poll on the front of the evenin him a 25 point lead, but giving him a 25 point lead, but that's the fault of, of that's partly the fault of, of the conservatives. >> i mean, i agree with susan hall on a lot, but normally you would choose better would choose someone better known. sorry the conservative candidate. you choose someone better them real better known and give them real support. bailey support. shaun bailey did extremely though cchq extremely well, even though cchq was not him help. he was not giving him much help. he got i think it was 5248 at got 48. i think it was 5248 at the last mayoral election. london by no means a kind of london is by no means a kind of sort haven of labour labour sort of haven of labour labour support necessarily . if, you support necessarily. if, you know, the conservatives have given up on london. i'm not sure why they did that. >> and the muslim vote for >> yeah. and the muslim vote for labour traditionally relied labour is traditionally relied on vote. that is, on the muslim vote. that is, is fracturing of what's fracturing because of what's happening there are happening in gaza. and there are independent muslim candidates

standing. >> and actually, if i mean, i'm let's see what happens with rochdale. but if someone like george galloway or jeremy corbyn were to run their own campaign , were to run their own campaign, that would perhaps splinter labour's labour's vote even more. yeah i think jeremy corbyn's going to run again as an independent in his own constituency. >> yes, my understanding. >> yes, that's my understanding. yeah. been mp 40 years. >> yes. okay. >> yes. okay. >> madeleine thank you. madeline grant now for gb grant there now for gb news exclusive. could ports exclusive. could british ports be at risk of sabotage from chinese software? >> tory has told >> the senior tory mp has told gb news the government's got to investigate. made cranes investigate. china made cranes at across britain at ports across britain after the announced plans the americans announced plans to spend billions replacing spend billions on replacing their versions. >> that's the concerns >> that's right, the concerns have raised after have been raised after washington the cranes , washington said the cranes, manufactured by shanghai firm, manufactured by a shanghai firm, were a real strategic risk . were a real strategic risk. >> charlie peters has joined us with more on this just explain that to us, charlie. sure. >> last week, the us >> so last week, the us announced spend $20 announced plans to spend $20 billion next five years billion over the next five years to cranes manufactured to replace cranes manufactured by a firm called z pmc. >> actually a subsidiary of >> it's actually a subsidiary of a company in china, which the us

has registered as a military entity of china. now it's spending this money because concerns have been raised by us intelligence personnel that this company is a serious strategic risk to the united states. they think that these cranes , which think that these cranes, which are which are 80% of all the ship to shore cranes in the us, can track information, can find out where freight is being sourced, its destination. but even more troublingly they are concerned , learned that they concerned, learned that they could sabotage cranes in the event of a conflict with china. we know that tensions are rising between washington and beijing. so since that announcement was made, not an awful amount of fuss britain or fuss was made in britain or europe about this because mec, this firm manufacture a significant portion of the world's . so i had a look world's cranes. so i had a look in and i found that the in britain and i found that the vast majority of our major ports do have them. been do have them. so i've been contacting ports for comment. very have spoken to me. just very few have spoken to me. just one that have the steel one said that we have the steel just the hardware, not the just at the hardware, not the software, won't software, but others won't confirm or not they are confirm whether or not they are facing same risk as in the

facing the same risk as in the us.and facing the same risk as in the us. and it's very important to note the fbi that they note that the fbi said that they had found collection devices on a baltimore . they said a port in baltimore. they said that this firm was a trojan horse for beijing and cybersecurity experts think that they could sabotage those cranes. cranes. >> cranes. >> what's the collection device ? >> what's the collection device? >> what's the collection device? >> didn't go into further >> they didn't go into further information >> they didn't go into further incho ation means >> they didn't go into further infc so ation means they >> they didn't go into further incho ation means they could, um , >> so that means they could, um, a collection being a collection device being something that can obtain digital all internet data . it's digital all internet data. it's the data risk. >> they're saying here it's worth noting that the united states military has, for some time now, unofficially, but only recently announced that it's been avoiding been deliberately avoiding all zpmc in the us when that zpmc cranes in the us when that amounts to 80% of all ship to shore cranes . that's quite shore cranes. that's quite a significant logistical effort to undertake. and they're doing it seriously because clearly seriously because they clearly recognise risk these recognise a major risk these cranes been in in place decades. we found that amazing felixstowe port, largest port port, the largest port in britain , accepted two more in britain, accepted two more in 2018. but they've been operating there many, many years . they there for many, many years. they won't me to what extent won't tell me to what extent they're using software as well as just the hardware, but only

one, only one port has come out and said that they are only using the steel and not the software. could be software. so could britain be facing the risk? that's facing the same risk? that's what o'brien, the founder what neil o'brien, the founder of the research group, has of the china research group, has told me, saying that concerns need raised here. need to be raised here. and we've analysts we've also heard from analysts who've gb news that has has who've told gb news that has has his majestys government seen the evidence the us? evidence collected by the us? have made own have they made their own assessment and are we at risk of here of accepting a trojan horse into britain as well? the cranes aren't lifting stuff, aren't just lifting stuff, they're information as well. >> that's right. can be tracked. >> that's right. can be tracked. >> and that data could be accessed remotely by beijing. >> okay, charlie. >> okay, charlie. >> thanks, charlie. really is right. come this right. still to come this morning, prince andrew took centre stage yesterday as the king william missed king and prince william missed the memorial service that was in windsor castle. there he is. look at he's he likes to look at him. he's he likes to sort of. >> he bustled to the front, doesn't he? >> absolutely bustled to the front. he's saying front. uh, because he's saying i'm the senior royal, but he's no longer. if you're no longer. look, if you're listening the radio now, listening on the radio now, he's bullying captain introducing everybody . tim lawrence is the everybody. tim lawrence is the husband of the princess royal.

yeah, he's he's being he's being. look he's got plenty of opportunity to go into the chapel, but he's hanging around because he's relishing being back in the public spotlight. it's a bad look, i'm afraid. >> how extraordinary do you think britain's newsroom on .

gb news turpentine. >> 1021. you're with britain's newsroom and gb news with andrew bev turner. that voice noise off from the side was, um, uh, stephen pound, who can't be controlled. the former labour mp and the broadcaster, mike parry, who bring some control. >> i hope so, yes . >> i hope so, yes. >>— >> i hope so, yes. >> what you were uttering the words king constantine. >> what you were uttering the woroh,iing constantine. >> what you were uttering the woroh, 11g constantine. >> what you were uttering the woroh, i thoughtantine. >> what you were uttering the woroh, i thought i|tine. >> what you were uttering the woroh, i thought i thought it >> oh, i thought i thought it said turpentine. said king turpentine. >> sorry. >> i'm sorry. >> i'm sorry. >> king constantine. >> king constantine. >> this about yesterday's >> king constantine. >> this about yesterday's >> king constantine. >> this is about yesterday's >> king constantine. >> this is memorialterday's >> king constantine. >> this is memorial service. story. this is memorial service for the exiled greek king. yeah and it was attended by lots of senior royals. were all there. they were all there should have

been but obviously been william. but obviously mr he 45 minutes before. he pulled out 45 minutes before. that's bit isn't that's a bit odd, isn't it. >> very mysterious, mysterious. >> and obviously king charles being unwell and who being a little unwell and who was there at front of the parade? >> we've got images of >> we've got some images of bustling himself forward. >> look that. >> look at that. >> look at that. >> prince andrew, who is no longer a working royal, pushed his way to the front . fergie's his way to the front. fergie's with him. dear me, why do you want to see her? >> can you think of a sentence involving the words scrape, bottom, and barrel ? yes. bottom, barrel and barrel? yes. >> he's loitering outside. >> and he's loitering outside. he's introducing people to whoever's conducting the service for the late greek king. and he's just revelling in every moment of it, isn't he? it is not. a great look. might be down there. >> it's an absolute disgrace . >> it's an absolute disgrace. honestly, those pictures go around the world now. very rarely do i have anything in agreement with the daily mirror, but i'm absolutely with them for their today, spring their front page today, spring prince get it. prince still doesn't get it. absolutely with it. his i mean, his sense of self—aware illness seems to have completely disappeared in the mist. you

know, the man who will forever be remembered for giving a lady £12 million, despite the fact that he said, i've never met her, i've never done anything wrong. >> his mother gave her, well, i i'm sure he did, but. >> but what you've just said about him ambling his way to the front, he's grinning in this front, he's grinning in this front page picture. he's grinning because he thinks, do you what i'm back there. you know what i'm back there. and he elbowed his way to the front and i'm the head of front and thinks i'm the head of the family. three paces behind him the princess royal, who, him was the princess royal, who, in should led the in my view, should have led the parade. absolutely. >> he's never been >> to be honest, he's never been found guilty of anything. yeah, but he did as said, >> but he did as mike said, write check for £12 million to write a check for £12 million to a he claims he may never a woman. he claims he may never have met. yeah i'm. have even met. yeah i'm. >> i suggest guilt. i'm sorry to jump >> i suggest guilt. i'm sorry to jump in again. the famous picture and geoffrey picture is of him and geoffrey epstein. epstein in central park. after epstein had been convicted and served a sentence for being a paedophile. should a member of the british royal family be walking around central park with man like that? park with a man like that? i watched the documentary stephen the other day about epstein that's on netflix and the way

that's on netflix and the way that living his the that he was living his life, the number girls came number of young girls that came through massage through those doors, the massage beds, the past. >> it's cedie and depraved beyond belief. it is. he was his mate. >> he was. i know, and it's flying backwards and forwards to the island. >> no, it's disgusting. but look, i think what's terrifying about this is, firstly, this was about this is, firstly, this was a deal. one. there were a big deal. this one. there were no heads all over no crowned heads all over europe, were there? >> spain flew in, especially, you course, you you know, and of course, you know, king constantine, which i think said a second think mike said is a second cousin the king, to king charles. >> yeah. and worse, the >> yeah. and even worse, the princess royal, a person of impeccable, princess royal, a person of impecc.and probity there her dignity and probity there in her naval . she should have naval uniform. she should have been instead having been there instead of having this, to say, i use the this, i have to say, i use the word disgraced. i mean, i appreciate your your point about legal, disgraced. of legal, but he is disgraced. of course have him course he is. they have him shoving pushing and grinning shoving and pushing and grinning his front. it's an his way to the front. it's an absolute insult. >> then inside the abbey, he >> and then inside the abbey, he is row, four seats is in the front row, four seats away queen camilla. away from queen camilla. >> yeah, you see, i've mentioned it >> yeah, you see, i've mentioned h body >> yeah, you see, i've mentioned it body language zara it in the body language of zara phillips course, phillips there. of course, princess daughter her princess anne's daughter and her husband, the fabulous mike tindall, rugby tindall, former england rugby

player. mike player. i rather wanted mike tindall up to prince tindall to go up to prince andrew, pick get him in andrew, pick him up, get him in a headlock and get him to the back the queue if anyone can. back of the queue if anyone can. it's the amazing i'll just pick back of the queue if anyone can. it's “up amazing i'll just pick back of the queue if anyone can. it's “up and|zing i'll just pick back of the queue if anyone can. it's “up and throw�*ll just pick back of the queue if anyone can. it's “up and throw�*ll ju aside. him up and throw him aside. >> princess there. >> princess royal there. >> princess royal there. >> look, it's, you know, it's elegant, dignified. >> this terrifying >> but isn't this terrifying about might happen to about what might happen to the royal if comes to the royal family if it comes to the worst? you know, we still don't know. uh, the precise diagnosis for we'd like to, for the king. we'd all like to, but the very best. but we wish him the very best. but with the king out of the picture and prince william out of the picture. the prince of wales. what are we left with? the princess? what left the princess? what are we left with? >> recovering? >> recovering? >> absolutely that >> absolutely something that we do not detail of what? do not know the detail of what? >> harry? um. in >> what? harry? um. in absolutely. america. >> absolutely . i mean, it is >> absolutely. i mean, it is it's devastating . it's devastating. >> there is a theory. there are lots about why lots of theories about why william there . we hope it william wasn't there. we hope it isn't anything to with his isn't anything to do with his wife's health. one is wife's health. one theory is that couldn't stomach the that he couldn't stomach the thought being side by side thought of being side by side with prince andrew. >> that wouldn't surprise me at all, because you look at all, because when you look at it, had to be something which it, it had to be something which really affected his life or his

emotions very carefully because he he he lives five minutes away, he literally lives a five minute walk gave 45 walk away. and he only gave 45 minutes wasn't coming minutes notice. he wasn't coming . has to be something . now that has to be something extremely desperate. >> the guesses and saw prince >> or the guesses and saw prince andrew was going through. i thought be a shock thought that wouldn't be a shock though, it? though, would it? >> no. >> well, no. >> well, no. >> the royal protection squad will a list >> the royal protection squad wi attendees, a list >> the royal protection squad wi attendees, and a list >> the royal protection squad wi attendees, and thata list >> the royal protection squad wi attendees, and that willt >> the royal protection squad wi attendees, and that will be of attendees, and that will be everybody. and they normally circulate about two circulate that only about two hours really? hours beforehand. oh, really? very hours beforehand. oh, really? veryou have just seen it. >> you may have just seen it. >> you may have just seen it. >> may have just seen it. and >> he may have just seen it. and you up with i will you know, up with this i will not put. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> then surely the >> well then surely but the greek royal related to greek royal family is related to our royal family >> but they invited andrew. oh. did the invitation came from the greeks. >> well p.- >> yes. well that could well have been. then why? uh, william wouldn't have known was wouldn't have known he was there until that until he got the list that stephen's about. but if stephen's talking about. but if that's case, what does that's the case, what power does prince william have to say to his sling your rocks. not. >> here, sling your rocks. not. >> here, sling your rocks. not. >> only that, he should >> not only that, he should actually say it to the king constantine's family. i'm constantine's family. look, i'm sorry. is a sorry. this is this is a delicate matter, but i have to say. i mean, you amaze me yet again your knowledge the again your knowledge of the inner workings of european

royalty, the royalty. >> for 12 years, you so. and yes. the invitation and constantine was a much loved member , friend of the royal member, friend of the royal family. not just wasn't much loved by the greek people, but no, no. well, yeah , but he was no, no. well, yeah, but he was much. he was more. was queen frederica. i used to go sailing with prince. >> exactly. i was going to say very, very close, but but i mean, you can think that prince william is still learning the job, yeah. he why job, isn't he? yeah. he is. why would thought, even would he have thought, even thought greek royal thought that the greek royal family have invited his family would have invited his his uncle, prince andrew, who disgraced he that disgraced. exactly he that probably never occurred to him. although his courtiers should have a bit more on the have been a bit more on the ball. shouldn't they? and said, look, we're keeping an eye on this. is a plausible theory for >> it is a plausible theory for why there. why he wasn't there. >> it's plausible theory >> it's a very plausible theory because don't know about because we don't know about anything happened. because we don't know about anytiing happened. because we don't know about anyti think happened. because we don't know about anyti think it happened. because we don't know about anyti think it would happened. because we don't know about anyti think it would haveened. because we don't know about anyti think it would have ited. and i think it would have it would have leaked out by now if something else had happened. >> it's true, it means >> true. if it's true, it means that prince andrew has more power william in power than prince william in that family. >> i don't think it >> no, no, i don't think it does.i >> no, no, i don't think it does. i think that royal does. i think that on royal

william said to him, william could have said to him, you're not going. >> not going. don't go. >> you're not going. don't go. >> you're not going. don't go. >> that is a very good point. um ultimately, he have said, ultimately, he should have said, you're but we don't you're not coming, but we don't know how far into the arrangements that that had gone. i instance, had prince i mean, for instance, had prince andrew the andrew already arrived in the procession was around the procession that was around the corner, you got mike corner, you know, you got mike tindall. corner, you know, you got mike tinylall. just going to say, i'm >> i was just going to say, i'm with this one. with you on this one. >> i think mike tindall, you know, off the pitch. >> yeah. the other thing that the king had his brother with him walked to church him when they walked to church at sandringham christmas day. at sandringham on christmas day. yeah, a very pointed statement. >> yeah. do you think it was. i think it's just i think that think it's just a i think that was more, more do with the was more, more to do with the dignity the occasion. well dignity of the occasion. well i think it was christmas, a family occasion. >> but, but this is a very pubuc >> but, but this is a very public family. yeah >> yeah. at least andrew >> yeah. but at least andrew wasn't at the head the wasn't at the head of the parade, if you see mean. parade, if you see what i mean. he was 4 or 5 paces he was a good 4 or 5 paces behind the king at christmas, and he's basking in it, isn't it? i know, but. oh, absolutely. >> again, if you're >> loving it again, if you're listening on radio, camilla, you don't arrives don't see she arrives last because into a side doon >> keeps her distance door. >> keeps her distance door. >> so she didn't see so had

>> so she didn't see so she had nothing. seen with him. >> i don't know if you've ever met andrew. may have met prince andrew. you may have done royal duties twice. done in your royal duties twice. interviewed twice. right interviewed him twice. right now. him, but now. i've never met him, but i've been company when he's i've been in company when he's been him been there and i find him the, you know, thickest, of you know, thickest, for want of a no, i'm not a better word. no, i'm not joking. individual. and it's usually been a sporting usually been at a sporting event at it was the open golf at one time it was the open golf because keen golfer. because he was very keen golfer. it saint it was royal lytham, saint anne's and people were putting points his eyes points to him and his eyes just glazed and found him so glazed over and i found him so arrogant company. everybody glazed over and i found him so arrogardeferompany. everybody glazed over and i found him so arrogardeferomhim'. everybody glazed over and i found him so arrogardeferomhim'. e\the)ody had to defer to him all the time, know i mean? time, you know what i mean? nobody was allowed to get closer than of two paces and all than sort of two paces and all that this stuff. that and all this stuff. >> him sir. >> call him sir. >> call him sir. >> staff call him and >> all staff call him sir, and that's he has no that's why he has no self—awareness. know, the self—awareness. you know, the story about country house. story about the country house. >> mean, he also >> it sounds. i mean, he also has ghastly every has his ghastly ritual every night with all these teddy bears, which he has, they have to order to be placed in order on his bed. by him. bed. not by him. >> by his. oh good lord. >> by his. yeah. oh good lord. >> by his. yeah. oh good lord. >> no, there is the royal >> no, no, there is the royal teddy arranger. pursuant to teddy bear arranger. pursuant to this country house, the country house he was staying at house story is he was staying at a country house, a sort of brideshead revisited type house. >> and he came down in the morning, walked into the breakfast last of all, and

breakfast room, last of all, and then turned round said, then turned round and said, i think do that again, think we'll do that again, and walked expected think we'll do that again, and walked at expected think we'll do that again, and walked at the xpected think we'll do that again, and walked at the breakfast table everybody at the breakfast table to stand as walked into to stand up as he walked into the yeah, so he went three the room. yeah, so he went three paces turned paces into the room, turned around. we'll try that around. i think we'll try that again. walked again. uh, around. i think we'll try that agairmove (ed again. uh, around. i think we'll try that agairmove on again. uh, around. i think we'll try that agairmove on to again. uh, around. i think we'll try that agairmove on to stand n. uh, around. i think we'll try that agairmove on to stand n. uthat let's move on to stand up. that is extraordinary. let's move on to stand up. that is eyeah,dinary. let's move on to stand up. that is eyeah, yeah.. >> yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah. >> run time for >> um, we've run out of time for just. know we have loads just. oh, i know we have loads more , though. more stories, though. >> only and could work >> if only mike and i could work from home like harriet harman would. harriet harman would. colleague harriet harman talked home. >> also , bear in mind, >> also, bear in mind, gentlemen, that we've got this high minute gentlemen, that we've got this highabout minute gentlemen, that we've got this highabout whether minute gentlemen, that we've got this highabout whether prince inute gentlemen, that we've got this highabout whether prince harry now about whether prince harry can have royal protection, including armed officers, when he is in the uk. we're going to bnng he is in the uk. we're going to bring you that hateful by the taxpayer. >> you see what donald trump said about him i did. >> oh yeah. you don't go anywhere though. >> here is the very patient sophia wenzler waiting for. us thanks , bev. thanks, bev. >> it's 1030. thanks, bev. >> it's1030. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom. your headunes in the gb newsroom. your headlines as the duke of sussex is due to learn whether he's won a high court challenge against

the government over his personal security. prince harry launched legal action over the home office decision. he should receive a different level of protection when he visits the uk , his lawyers told the court . protection when he visits the uk , his lawyers told the court. he was singled out and his children wouldn't feel at home if they couldn't be kept safe. the government says his claim should be dismissed because his protection is considered on a case by case basis . mps facing case by case basis. mps facing threats to their safety will get extra security as part of a new £31 million government package. it follows growing concerns over mps being targeted by protesters in recent months. since the outbreak of the israel—hamas war, the home office said the package would be used to increase private sector security provisions, with all elected representatives to have a dedicated , named police contact dedicated, named police contact to liaise with on security matters . thousands of farmers in matters. thousands of farmers in wales will be demonstrating outside the senate later in a protest over a number of issues they say are threatening the industry. farmers are unhappy

with proposals by the changed farm subsidies, which would include a requirement for 10% of agricultural land to be used for trees. but the labour government in the senate insists the change is necessary to fight climate change. but could be adjusted by the end of the consultation on and any savings from the cut to national insurance will be wiped out by, tory council tax rises . out by, tory council tax rises. that's according to the labour party . it that's according to the labour party. it comes that's according to the labour party . it comes after the party. it comes after the chancellor promised the largest ever tax cut for workers , with ever tax cut for workers, with a 2% cut to national insurance , 2% cut to national insurance, but with 95% of councils expect to put up council tax by the maximum, 4.99% from april, it's set to cancel out any savings . set to cancel out any savings. labour's shadow financial secretary, james murray, says it's another broken promise from the tories . and for the latest the tories. and for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen, or go to gb news. common alerts . for

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around the country. >> today we are at middlesex aerospace in basingstoke and i'm joined by lawrence fold, the owner of the business, and i want to find out, owner of the business, and i want to find out , lawrence, why want to find out, lawrence, why engineering is so important to the uk. >> well, engineering and aerospace engineering in particular produces a whole series of very well paid , series of very well paid, interesting jobs. the products that were made in this factory , that were made in this factory, ultimately speaking, pretty much all go abroad. um even though they're integrated into systems in this country. but they'll wind up in airbus, boeing and other major aircraft facilities around the world. so exporting is really important . is really important. >> are we becoming competitive globally ? globally? >> we have we remain competitive globally . >> we have we remain competitive globally. um, just because areas have got , uh, have got cheap have got, uh, have got cheap laboun have got, uh, have got cheap labour, it doesn't mean that they're very good at producing sophisticated components. and it's that that we do here is to produce technology at the very high, end of, of, of, of high, high end of, of, of, of manufacturing. and how are we addressing the skills gap and

how important is this? >> we've our >> we've had our own apprenticeship programme every year since 1950. >> so we continue to train here, um, train our own apprentices and build, build the skills of our own, of our own people and that's been really key to our success over the years. um, and as a national, um, as a national thing, training and education for um, for all the people is for um, for all the people is for all of our people is very important. i mean, it's very much a truth to say that if you think education is expensive, try ignorance

i >> -- >> we're going to be debating whether the government is right to bring in a tax on vapes. that's what the rumour is about. next week's budget. we're going to be talking the director to be talking to the director of the association. the uk's vaping association. don't . don't miss that. >> though. thousands of >> first though. thousands of welsh are gathering welsh farmers are gathering cardiff protest the cardiff today to protest the government's new climate action plans that farmers must follow

if they want to continue accessing financial support. if they want to continue acc and|g financial support. if they want to continue acc and to financial support. if they want to continue accand to be ncial support. if they want to continue accand to be clear,;upport. if they want to continue acc and to be clear, that'st. if they want to continue acc and to be clear, that's the >> and to be clear, that's the welsh government. it's welsh labour government. it's not. it's because it's devolved. one supporting the one of those supporting the cause clarkson's farm star, cause is clarkson's farm star, and you all know him, caleb coopen and you all know him, caleb cooper, that's right. >> so is the green agenda destroying farming. well joining us now from cardiff is our political correspondent olivia utley. um, hello, olivia . good utley. um, hello, olivia. good morning. what's going on down there? just explain to people why these farmers are so unhappy i >> -- >> hello, bev. yes, there's about 10,000 welsh farmers expected to descend on the senedd today . and what they're senedd today. and what they're trying to do is change the labour welsh government's mind over a planned system of new subsidies. now, under these new subsidies, farmers would be paid for simply looking after the land for the environment rather than producing food , and than producing food, and specifically to be to qualify for these subsidies, farmers would have to agree to give over 10% of their land to growing

trees. now, in some areas of wales that would be very difficult indeed. cliff areas, for example, giving 10% of land over to trees would be near impossible and farmers say that the burden of that, the burden of giving over their land to the environment, rather than growing the food that they've been producing for hundreds of years, in some cases with family farms, would just be too much. they say that food that farms would have to close up and down the welsh countryside. it's very reminiscent of the scenes that we saw in paris just a few weeks ago. and similar to what we've seen in spain two now i'm here with andrew davies, who's the leader of the welsh conservatives , and he opposes conservatives, and he opposes the plan. andrew can you just explain a little bit more to me about why this has gone down so badly with welsh farmers? >> not forget people >> well, let's not forget people need food survive live on need food to survive and live on their everyday existence. so we're an we're not talking about an industry isn't industry here that isn't required nation. and required to feed the nation. and if farmers, if we don't have farmers, we don't food. by the don't have food. and by the government's figures, if government's own figures, if

this ahead and this scheme goes ahead and changed, 5500 farmers will lose their livelihoods . 125,000 their livelihoods. 125,000 cattle will be lost in wales, 800,000 sheep and £200 million worth of economic activity will be lost. so it will be a devastating income impact on rural communities , the length rural communities, the length and breadth of wales and what we've got do by the show of we've got to do by the show of force, strength here is force, strength here today is impress on the government that they need change, they need they need to change, they need to it's not too late. to listen. it's not too late. they things they can change things around and they do . and let's hope they do. >> thank you. i mean, there are those say that have those who say that farmers have got bit to got to do their bit to contribute the net zero goal, contribute to the net zero goal, that working towards. that we're all working towards. what to that? what would you say to that? >> accepts that >> well, everyone accepts that and farmers are an integral part of but when they of that. but when they talk about putting farm land about putting 10% of farm land over trees has over to trees, that has a devastating on the value devastating impact on the value of the farms, the productivity of the farms, the productivity of farms. if you're a of the farms. and if you're a tenant farmer , for example, the tenant farmer, for example, the landlord wouldn't tenant farmer, for example, the lancpermission wouldn't tenant farmer, for example, the lancpermission to wouldn't tenant farmer, for example, the lancpermission to d01ldn't tenant farmer, for example, the lancpermission to do itin't tenant farmer, for example, the lancpermission to do it anyway, you permission to do it anyway, so you wouldn't be able to access support that access the support payments that welsh are making welsh government are making available to you. so we can't allow forward and allow this to go forward and change. and that's what the protest today in the protest is about today in the greatest i've

greatest numbers that i've certainly a senate certainly seen as a senate member here member since i've been here since two thousand and seven, i've some people i've spoken to some people within who say within the labour party who say that the conservatives plan for england pretty england is actually pretty similar what labour is doing similar to what labour is doing in wales. >> do you with characterisation? >> don't, because >> no, i don't, because ultimately many farmers now in wales we wish we had wales are saying we wish we had what's england where what's going on in england where there's choice of there's more of a menu choice of what could your farm what you could do for your farm rather on rules rather than imposition on rules and regulations welsh and regulations that the welsh government impose government are looking to impose . don't forget, . but, as i said, don't forget, if don't have farmers, we if we don't have farmers, we don't have food and we need food in everyday lives. food in our everyday lives. and food security important security is as important as environmental in environmental security in the world uncertain changes world of uncertain changes and circumstances. you very much. >> well, a clear message there from the leader of the welsh conservatives that food security is just as important as environmental security for the future of the planet. that's it. from me for now, but i'll be back with you later today with more from this protest at the welsh senate . welsh senate. >> thanks, olivia. an interesting piece in the paper. >> really interesting. the times today. you know on this today. so you will know on this program we've talked

program because we've talked about gareth jones, who's about gareth wyn jones, who's a terrific he farms in terrific farmer. he farms in nonh terrific farmer. he farms in north wales. he's going to join that protest today on his tractor. doubt he has had to tractor. no doubt he has had to install security systems after the police warned him about a death threat made against his family. isn't that appalling? yeah, a farmerjust campaigning yeah, a farmer just campaigning because he says the welsh labour government is going to destroy, destroy income , in turn destroy his income, in turn turning farm into more and turning his farm into more and more rewilding . and more trees and rewilding. and that's solar panels. yeah, solar panels. it's all this dash to net zero. and that's what he gets . gets. >> the death threat and reminder the guardian ran a and the guardian ran a piece and stitched these people up on sunday then did the left sunday when then did the left become so against the working person ? it baffles me. up next, person? it baffles me. up next, attacks on vaping, safeguarding children, or an attack on those who are trying to quit smoking . who are trying to quit smoking. we're going to have our friend from the vaping industry in the studio to give him a hard time. this is britain's newsroom on .

gb news. >> it's not now . it's the budget >> it's not now. it's the budget next week. and i know you can barely wait. the excitement is building so much and we're getting the budget wednesday getting the budget on wednesday and reported that and it has been reported that one of the measures will be a tax for the first time on vapes. >> that's right. vapes are subject to vat, but unlike tobacco, they're not subject to excise duty , making them cheaper excise duty, making them cheaper to purchase . to purchase. >> so if a levy is added to vaping, this, could this be the thing that dissuades under eighteens from taking up the habit? >> no looking on the screen . >> no looking on the screen. right. and we're in the right. and we're joined in the studio. this is a this is a poster here now with up to £1,000 puffs. we're joined by a friend of the show , director friend of the show, director general of the vaping industry association , john dunn, who association, john dunn, who i all credit to you, john. we give you a kick in every time we see you a kick in every time we see you too. and now you've come into the studio. how do you defend if we just defend that poster if we just see it one more time? this is

being sold on the idea that it's got a thousand puffs in attractive colours, pink and blue. that's not trying to stop you smoking , that's trying to you smoking, that's trying to encourage you to vape . encourage you to vape. >> absolutely not. what this is doing highlighting how doing is, is highlighting how efficient these devices have become. all of the devices become. so all of the devices run on the same amount of e—liquid. what's happening to the devices is they're becoming more in how they more efficient in how they utilise that liquid. and utilise that, that liquid. and that's it's able to deliver that's why it's able to deliver more puffs per device . s it's more puffs per device. s it's not doing anything different, but presumably you vape to start to reduce your dependency on nicotine , because what that's nicotine, because what that's doing saying you can still doing is saying you can still get tons of nicotine from your vape, but the amount of puffs has nothing to with the has nothing to do with the amount that's in the amount of nicotine that's in the device. the amount nicotine device. the amount of nicotine stays same. so what smokers device. the amount of nicotine stajdoing same. so what smokers device. the amount of nicotine stajdoing isme. so what smokers device. the amount of nicotine stajdoing is they're what smokers device. the amount of nicotine stajdoing is they're moving|okers device. the amount of nicotine stajdoing is they're moving away are doing is they're moving away from a product that kills 220 of them every single day to a product that's far safer for them to use and far healthier for them to use. but they still have get the amount of have to get the amount of nicotine that their body is craving. happens is

craving. and what happens is with with a device like that , with a with a device like that, it's higher nicotine it's generally a higher nicotine level . but when switch level. but then when they switch from a disposable or pod from a disposable or a pod system onto an open tank system, because the devices are more powerful, they use less and less nicotine. so the most popular levels of nicotine in the country are six milligram and three milligram. in the open tank systems, but most of the disposables and the pod systems are at that 18 to 20 milligram level, which is the maximum you can have in this. >> why shouldn't they be taxed? fags drink is taxed. fags are taxed. drink is taxed. alcohol is taxed, but they already and they do already are taxed. and they do have duties. have import duties. >> what the statement said >> so what the statement said earlier on. >> but no earlieron. >>but >> but there's no excise duty. >> but there's no excise duty. >> there's import duty of 6.5. >> how much are tax on cigarettes. >> cigarettes kill 220 people a day. so massive amounts of taxes. absolutely yes. but this is an attack on smoking cessation. vaping is the most popular way that people quit smoking in this country. so if nicotine is the problem, why is the government not going to tax gums and patches which also contain nicotine, which are only

at a 5% vat rate? >> it's also the most popular way of getting teenagers addicted to nicotine. look at these adverts and tell me that is not meant to appeal. well, what i will children. >> what i will tell you is that product is illegal in this country, but the laws that we have currently are not even being enforced. so the government talking government is talking about bringing they bringing in more laws when they can't even enforce the ones that are here already. >> how difference will it >> how much difference will it make to price these make to the price of these vapes? john if this tax is included ? included? >> well, it depends on what what they actually come out with. they actually come outwith. there's a lot of speculation at the moment. the budget next week. have they talked you about it? >> no. >> no. >> absolutely not. no contact with the treasury? no. >> with mps yesterday >> and i met with mps yesterday and they have no idea what's in this. is absolutely this. so this is absolutely coming , from rishi coming from, uh, from rishi sunaks office. this is not coming from anywhere else . um, coming from anywhere else. um, so what we've got to be really careful here of is that the highest smoking areas are in the most deprived areas of the uk ,

most deprived areas of the uk, and we're trying to convince these smokers to move to something else. so if you make them more expensive, they're not just trying to boost your profits. >> that's what you're trying to do. you're trying to flog vapes to boost your profits. >> couldn't why go on about >> why couldn't why go on about this, this sort of altruist thing? >> trying to thing? > . > try|ng to get thing? >> trying to get people thing? >> you're g to get people thing? >> you're tryingat people thing? >> you're trying to 3eople thing? >> you're trying to flog.e thing? >> you're trying to flog as saying, you're trying to flog as many as you can, which is why saying, you're trying to flog as marget; you can, which is why saying, you're trying to flog as marget so>u can, which is why saying, you're trying to flog as marget so many, which is why saying, you're trying to flog as marget so many of hich is why saying, you're trying to flog as marget so many of thems why saying, you're trying to flog as marget so many of them designed you get so many of them designed to attract people, get to attract young people, get them them for a good listen. >> p- listen. >> the things that's very >> one of the things that's very interesting that interesting about this is that entrepreneurs solve the problem that care industry that the health care industry was failing decades , and was failing for decades, and pharmacies companies make profits from selling pills, from selling patches , from selling selling patches, from selling gums. but i don't see you attacking them and they make far more profits than this industry does. >> you know why the industry is solving a problem? >> makers are not cool. >> makers are not cool. >> john patches and gum that have nicotine them appeal to have nicotine in them appeal to an older generation who might just want to have a little bit of nicotine when they're in the office whatever they're office and whatever they're addicted. for decades, these products children products are getting children

hooked on nicotine. they must be limited . limited. >> i absolutely agree they should be limited to children, but not limited to adults who are successfully using these to quit smoking . patches and gums quit smoking. patches and gums have failed for decades. they don't work. this product is twice as effective as all of the other methods combined, and this government is going . government is going. >> i've never met, sorry, i've never met a vapour who is vaping to quit nicotine? have you absolutely. >> no, absolutely. >> no, absolutely. >> all my vaping friends and there are many. and there are people room people vaping in this room behind right now, behind us. probably right now, because get away it because you can get away with it in nobody smells in offices because nobody smells it. though it's not it. and even though it's not legal, people are doing it. it. and even though it's not legal, people are doing it . we legal, people are doing it. we are to we're are we're going to we're a dinner we're at the rts dinner tonight. we're at the rts awards tonight. every time you go do round go to any sort of zigi do round a table . now, used to go a table. now, people used to go out and have a cigarette. now they sit at table and they they sit at the table and they vape. it's not working. they sit at the table and they vapwell, it's not working. they sit at the table and they vapwell, firsts not working. they sit at the table and they vapwell, first of ot working. they sit at the table and they vapwell, first of all, 'orking. they sit at the table and they vapwell, first of all, leting. they sit at the table and they vapwell, first of all, let me >> well, first of all, let me correct that. it is not correct you on that. it is not to illegal it is to illegal vape inside. it is only illegal to smoke inside . it

only illegal to smoke inside. it is up to every premises to make their own rules so children can then just do that in the classroom. well, adults can do it as well. and 4.6 million vapers in this country , adult vapers in this country, adult vapers in this country, adult vapers who were previous smokers and have successfully twice successfully quit it are doing that as well. but absolutely, we have put in place lots of things and suggestions to the government to stop young people from getting on. >> well, help me out about something called fidget spinners . again, vaping absolute illegal. explain what that is. it's a fidget spinner. >> that is a vape . >> that is a vape. >> that is a vape. >> a fidget spinner is a is a child's toy and it can be used by adults who have attention issues. and it's a fidgety thing. familiar thing. you will all be familiar with they a massive with them. they were a massive crave. could those crave. you could get those at double vape. crave. you could get those at d0lyou're vape. crave. you could get those at d0lyou're allape. crave. you could get those at d0lyou're all about all about >> you're all about all about getting kids. but you are just highlighting fact that the highlighting the fact that the current being enforced. >> so mhra in this country is the approved vapes to the ones that approved vapes to come onto the market. they don't look they don't look at packaging, they don't look at packaging, they don't look design. that's look at product design. that's up standards . once up to trading standards. once the in the market.

the products are in the market. and i've highlighted this to the government , highlighted government, i've highlighted this the last five years and this for the last five years and they don't take action. >> are the mhra conflicted in that decision in any way? >> the mhra, mhra absolutely >> the mhra, mhra are absolutely behind that suggestion. >> do they receive any money from industry? from the vaping industry? >> don't , but the >> no, they don't, but the current remit that have current remit that they have does not them to look at does not allow them to look at packaging product design packaging and product design that's . in in trading standards that's. in in trading standards remit, which i think is backwards . backwards. >> do you think. >> do you think. >> all right, john, i do indeed. >> all right, john, i do indeed. >> oh are you trying. are you. >> oh are you trying. are you. >> i smoke three packs a day. >> i smoke three packs a day. >> are you trying quit vaping? >> no, because i enjoy it. because >> there john. lovely to >> there you go. john. lovely to see director—general the see you. director—general of the vaping association. vaping industry association. john is adult, john dunne, who is an adult, is free do he wants. uh, free to do what he wants. uh, don't anywhere. we've to don't go anywhere. we've got to take break for the weather. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsor of weather on . gb news. >> hi there. it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office with the latest forecast for gb news

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measures . measures. >> you've made your point and thatis >> you've made your point and that is the message from the home secretary to pro—palestine protesters as he urges them to stop. there weekend demonstrations in london and no thanks, mr president. >> britain has rejected a french plan to send nato troops in to the ukraine. what was he thinking of? >> and it's a big day today for fish and chip lovers. some of the top chippies in britain will be competing at the national fish and chip awards this afternoon. we've already discovered that andrew pierce gets bored of chips . hello discovered that andrew pierce gets bored of chips. hello . gets bored of chips. hello. bored of chips? you're bored of chips. you're bored of life? >> no, but they're better if you have a pickled egg. >> oh, no, that's just perverse. no chips, pickled fish and chips with gravy and mushy peas . i'm a with gravy and mushy peas. i'm a mancunian. oh my god , am

mancunian. oh my god, am i right? gb views. yeah. gbnews.com and maybe a little pot of curry sauce on the side as well . uh, let us know your as well. uh, let us know your thoughts this morning. vaiews@gbnews.com. first though, the very latest news with sophia wenzler. >> bev, thank you. it's 11:01. >> bev, thank you. it's11:01. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom . your top story this newsroom. your top story this houn newsroom. your top story this hour. the duke of sussex is due to learn whether he's won a high court challenge against the government over his personal security . prince harry launched security. prince harry launched legal action after the home office decided he should receive a different level of protection when he visits the uk , his when he visits the uk, his lawyers told the court he was singled out and his children wouldn't feel at home if they couldn't be kept safe. the government says his claim should be dismissed because his protection is considered on a case by case basis. mp is facing threats to their safety, will get extra security as part of a new £31 million government

package. new £31 million government package . it follows growing package. it follows growing concerns over mps being targeted by protesters in recent months. since the outbreak of the israel—hamas war. the home office said the package would be used to increase private sector security provisions, with all elected representatives to have a dedicated , named police a dedicated, named police contact, liaise with on security matters, policing minister chris philp says democracy won't function without their safety . function without their safety. >> it's vital for democracy that elected representatives, members of parliament and others can discharge their duties without fear or intimidation. if mps can't do their jobs and use their judgement without any can't do their jobs and use theirjudgement without any sort their judgement without any sort of external intimidation, then democracy itself can't function . democracy itself can't function. >> thousands of farmers in wales will be demonstrating outside the senate later in protest over a number of issues they say are threatening their industry. farmers are unhappy with the proposals by the change farm subsidies, which would include a requirement for a 10% of agricultural land to be used for

trees. they would also be required to earmark another 10% for wildlife habitat . it. but for wildlife habitat. it. but the labour government in the senate insists the change is necessary to fight climate change, but could be adjusted by the end of the consultation . the end of the consultation. councils are warning of drastic cuts to services despite government bailouts . the local government bailouts. the local government association claims further funding should be available in the chancellor's budget next week or there could be a risk of worsening financial crisis. the government has already made an extra £600 million available for the council . for 2024 to 2025, more council. for 2024 to 2025, more than two thirds of councils said they'll be making savings on services such as waste collection, road repairs and library and leisure services , library and leisure services, and any savings from the cut to national insurance will be wiped out by tory council tax rises. that's according to the labour party. it comes after the chancellor promised the largest ever tax cut for workers, with a 2% cut to national insurers . 2% cut to national insurers. yes, but with 95% of councils

expected to put up council tax by the maximum 4.99% from april, it's set to cancel out any savings . labour's shadow savings. labour's shadow financial secretary, james murray, says it's another broken promise from the tories. >> the government are effectively forcing councils to put up council tax, and what that increase in council tax means is that any savings families might make from national insurance cuts this year are being wiped out . so year are being wiped out. so when rishi sunak says that he's cutting taxes, it's another broken promise because taxes are still on course to be the highest in 70 years. 25 tax rises in this parliament alone, you know, and the low economic growth combined with those tax rises people across rises is why people across britain worse off. britain are feeling worse off. >> home office chaos is to blame for asylum seeker backlogs costing the taxpayer millions of pounds. costing the taxpayer millions of pounds . that's the warning from pounds. that's the warning from a think tank . pounds. that's the warning from a think tank. it found over 55,000 asylum seekers are stuck in a queue waiting for their applications to be determined , applications to be determined, and the institute for public policy research is calling on the home office to start

processing claims in a bid to clear the backlog. it comes as the asylum system costs 3.97 billion in the year 2022 to 2023, compared with 500 million a decade earlier for a five day walkout by junior doctors in a long running dispute over pay is set to conclude later . it's the set to conclude later. it's the 10th time doctors have stopped work since march last year. the british medical association is requesting a 35% pay rise, with the government saying it's unreasonable . rishi sunak denied unreasonable. rishi sunak denied trying to run down the nhs, insisting that his government had delivered record funding for the health service. more than 1.3 million appointments and operations have already been cancelled or rescheduled since industrial action began . and in industrial action began. and in some breaking news, the high court in belfast has ruled provisions to ensure conditional immunity from prosecution for troubles offences in the government's legacy act are not compatible with human rights

legislation . when the challenge legislation. when the challenge was brought by a group of victims of the northern ireland troubles, we expecting a news conference shortly . we'll bring conference shortly. we'll bring you more on this developing story later. and for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. common alerts. now it's back to andrew and . bev breaking news. andrew and. bev breaking news. >> and who better to break the news than our very own royal reporter, cameron walker? >> yes, this is concerning the duke and his high duke of sussex and his high court case against home court case against the home office their decision office over their decision not to with the same to provide him with the same degree of protection when degree of police protection when he's , as he's no he's in the uk, as he's no longer working royal. prince longer a working royal. prince harry has lost his high court judgement against the home office, the court has found that there has been no unlawfulness in reaching the decision by the home office on the 28th of february, 2020. that's way back when prince harry stood back as

a working member of the royal family. any departure from policy was justified. the decision was not irrational . it decision was not irrational. it goes on and on and on. so just to recap slightly , prince harry to recap slightly, prince harry argued that it was unfair for ravec this home office committee, which is made up of police officers, senior government figures including the home secretary and members of the royal household, which included uh , the late queen's included uh, the late queen's private secretary, see, as part of his committee to change the level of police protection he got when he's in the uk because of course , it's all taxpayer of course, it's all taxpayer funded, isn't it, of course, it's all taxpayer funded, isn't it , this police funded, isn't it, this police protection and because prince harry, no longer a working member of the royal family, ravec, made the decision that he should be entitled to that. should not be entitled to that. >> so he could. was to >> so he could. he was trying to almost was an act of almost say this was an act of spite. they were they were attacking him because had attacking him because he'd had the away. and the temerity to walk away. and this absolute. that's this is saying absolute. that's not case. not the case. >> exactly . that's what >> yeah, exactly. so that's what the handed mr the judge has handed down, mr justice says that it justice lane. he says that it wasn't irrational and it was wasn't not irrational and it was justified there no

unlawfulness. >> so it's a judicial review . a >> so it's a judicial review. a judicial review. yeah, a judicial review. yeah, a judicial review. yeah, a judicial review . you have to judicial review. you have to prove the decision been prove that the decision has been irrational that is what the irrational and that is what the judge has said. it is a rational decision given the circumstances , to change his royal, his protection level. >> exactly. we've got a slight problem with this hearing is that a of was actually that a lot of it was actually held in private without journalists national journalists due to national security issues. perhaps understandably, harry understandably, prince harry argued, lawyers argued, argued, or his lawyers argued, that he was treated less favourably than other members of the family. also argued the royal family. he also argued that possible that it's not possible to keep his own children, and his own children, archie and lilibet, safe in the uk because of the decision of ravec, and said because had such a said because he had such a falling out with members of the royal household stood royal household when he stood back member of the back as a working member of the royal family as documented royal family as well documented in memoir spare that there in his memoir spare that there was kind of prejudice was some kind of prejudice against him and they were influenced. the allegation was they influencing they were influencing government's policy when they made home office, made made the home office, made decision take his decision to take away his security and court security. and the court has argued or the court has found thatis argued or the court has found that is not the case. >> here's an important point.

>> so here's an important point. cameron. so at cameron. if he's here on so at the queen's coronation, for instance, he had exactly the same of royal protection same level of royal protection he would have had if he was still the royal still a member of the royal family. he comes here family. it's if he comes here pnor family. it's if he comes here prior going to prior whitley, he's going to have out for his own security. >> yeah. and lawyers argued that the has received the protection he has received when back uk, when he's come back to the uk, post—megxit has been, and i quote, inadequate . there was quote, inadequate. there was what lawyers what what his lawyers that's what his lawyer said. so there was an incident during wellchild incident during the wellchild awards. it was 2021, awards. i believe it was 2021, where he alleges his car was chased paparazzi because he chased by paparazzi because he did not have disputed, because he did not have that outriders. police outriders about guns. >> this issue fundamentally, it partly about who pays for it. but because as a as but isn't it because as a as a private citizen , he can't have private citizen, he can't have armed protection . and if he had armed protection. and if he had one today, that would have left the gates open for any private citizen, be that a russian, a chinese , a saudi, anyone coming chinese, a saudi, anyone coming over here who consider themselves to be rather important and possibly a threat could have security with guns. >> so as it stands , prince harry >> so as it stands, prince harry in united states at in the united states at the moment has his own police

protection. sorry, not police his private protection , his own private protection, which for, which are which he pays for, which are armed have guns. armed and do have guns. >> everybody's america . >> everybody's armed in america. >> everybody's armed in america. >> yeah, exactly. and the home office and the british government says that government and law says that prince harry cannot take his arms. protection to the uk. arms. us protection to the uk. and therefore prince harry argues he needs that armed british police, taxpayer funded police protection in the uk, the home office, as it stands , does home office, as it stands, does prince harry's protection on a case by case basis. prince harry has 28 notice has to give 28 days notice before he comes to the uk to see so they can process whether or not prince harry warrants protection. if it's an official trip, as you say, andrew, like the queen's funeral or the coronation, to get coronation, he's likely to get it. if it's a private trip, it could well be disputed . and this could well be disputed. and this is for harry's protection , is just for harry's protection, not family. we'll wait not his family. so we'll wait and see if there's any statements from either side. so when for to see his father. >> yeah, he. we knew in advance he was coming over , which would he was coming over, which would have alerted anybody wanted have alerted anybody who wanted to uh, potentially . yeah. so to be, uh, potentially. yeah. so would he have had protection for

that? well we saw police outright, police cars with him and that i did scratch my head and that i did scratch my head and think, well, why on earth is that? >> he needs to give 28 days notice. i suspect because of the circumstances . notice. i suspect because of the circumstances. his notice. i suspect because of the circumstances . his father had circumstances. his father had cancen circumstances. his father had cancer, had recently been diagnosed. but there is flexibility . yeah, but remember flexibility. yeah, but remember prince harry brought this judicial review. you know, well over a year ago. now, the trial happened.a over a year ago. now, the trial happened. a three day trial happensin happened. a three day trial happens in december. so has happens in december. so this has been a time coming. been a long time coming. and i think harry was pretty think prince harry was pretty angry. ago. he angry. a couple of years ago. he was off all was firing off all these different cases. think different legal cases. i think now, perhaps, uh, if he was in the same position today, would he have brought this judicial review? we're but review? we're not sure. but clearly prince feels his clearly prince harry feels his family safe in the family are not safe in the uk. may. well, but we'll to see may. well, but we'll have to see what back. what he comes back. >> going to himself >> he's going to get himself into little bit of a difficult into a little bit of a difficult position he? position as well, isn't he? because trump is because if president trump is re—elected america. yeah. and re—elected in america. yeah. and he out of america he gets kicked out of america because his previous smoking because of his previous smoking admissions on his visa application form, and he comes back , he won't want to come back back, he won't want to come back here if he doesn't feel that

he's safe enough. where is he going to go? >> to canada, which is where they went initially. >> they can go canada. >> they can go to canada. >> they can go to canada. >> lovely there. >> have a lovely time there. >> have a lovely time there. >> canada be thrilled >> have a lovely time there. >> have canada be thrilled >> have a lovely time there. >> have them anada be thrilled >> have a lovely time there. >> have them because; thrilled >> have a lovely time there. >> have them because we rilled >> have a lovely time there. >> have them because we don't to have them because we don't want them back here. >> well, they were back in canada weeks ago for the canada a few weeks ago for the invictus yeah. countdown canada a few weeks ago for the invictusthey? yeah. countdown canada a few weeks ago for the invictusthey? butaah. countdown canada a few weeks ago for the invictusthey? butaé mean, 1tdown canada a few weeks ago for the invictusthey? butaé mean, the wn weren't they? but i mean, the fact is prince harry is still fifth the throne. so fifth in line to the throne. so there a bit of a there is, in theory, a bit of a target on his back. that's what prince of prince harry, uh, argues. but of course, it justified for course, is it justified for taxpayers to pay for constant round police protection protection, police protection on a by case basis? prince a case by case basis? prince harry is provided police harry is provided with police protection. it's protection. he says it's inadequate. office and inadequate. the home office and clearly the judge that clearly the judge agrees that that's the that's not the case. >> live the >> choosing to live the multi—millionaire playboy lifestyle united states lifestyle in the united states and california , if that's his and california, if that's his choice. afraid if choice. yeah, i'm afraid if you've your bed, you've got you've made your bed, you've got to it. yeah, totally. to lie in it. yeah, totally. >> made they >> and they've made they are millions and millions. >> very wealthy. he was >> they're very wealthy. he was left money by his mother, money >> they're very wealthy. he was left chueen his mother, money >> they're very wealthy. he was left chueen mother, her, money >> they're very wealthy. he was left chueen mother, her, they've >> they're very wealthy. he was left ma queen mother, her, they've >> they're very wealthy. he was left ma lotan mother, her, they've >> they're very wealthy. he was left ma lot of mother, her, they've >> they're very wealthy. he was left ma lot of mother,out, they've >> they're very wealthy. he was left ma lot of mother,out of1ey've made a lot of money out of netflix and spotify selling out the family. just before the royal family. just before you reckon we have solved you go, we reckon we have solved the william did the mystery of why william did not that memorial service. not go to that memorial service.

>> certainly convinced, >> certainly we are convinced, aren't we, mr p? >> he not launch to be with >> he did not launch to be with prince limelight with prince shada, limelight with prince shada, limelight with princ reckon found out prince >> i reckon he found out prince andrew going no, andrew was going and he said no, i and that is then they i am not. and that is then they 90, i am not. and that is then they go, well, what secretary's go, well, what his secretary's going, well, what going going, well, what am i going to tell he tell blooming gb news? and he says, it's a personal says, tell them it's a personal issue. yeah. >> personal he was >> personal issue. well he was pictured in the summer driving his, prince andrew in his, his uncle prince andrew in the car at balmoral. i understand he was particularly pleased that. but think pleased about that. but i think pulling a service for pulling out of a service for because want because you don't want to be seen with uncle pretty seen with your uncle is pretty far fetched. seen with your uncle is pretty far well,ed. seen with your uncle is pretty far well, i . seen with your uncle is pretty far well, i don't think it's far >> well, i don't think it's far fetched, do think it shows fetched, but i do think it shows that wields lot that prince andrew wields a lot more that family more influence in that family than william. at this moment. if you are in line to the you are in first in line to the throne, be able to throne, you should be able to say these extraordinary say under these extraordinary circumstances, sorry, uncle circumstances, i'm sorry, uncle andrew. you're not going. you're not going because we need to represent this family at this time when my dad isn't well, my wife isn't well . i need to be wife isn't well. i need to be there with princess anne, with zara, with mike, and show us for being the positive that are being the positive that we are not in front of his , not with him in front of his, absolutely revelling in it. >> , prince andrew? he

>> isn't he, prince andrew? he loves well, stopped the loves it. well, he stopped the front, hanging front, stopped, stopped hanging around, introducing people , around, introducing people, introducing the princess royal's husband to various people. so that in the front row. yeah, in the service. >> so it's tricky for the british royal family, isn't it? i do understand, but it was the greek royal family that invited prince andrew rather than the british. it's a british. but of course it's a it's private event it's a private family event isn't that's issue. isn't it. and that's the issue. prince prince andrew is still a private windsor family member, but not working of the but not a working member of the royal family. >> the court >> but i checked the court circuit the telegraph the circuit in the telegraph and the times. there royals times. today there is the royals at that service. so that so that was that was down for senior royals as a working function. they don't mention him. they just say other members of the family attended . family attended. >> thanks, it also just >> thanks, cameron. it also just shows that prince andrew is shows you that prince andrew is not bothered the not bothered about the royal family. he's bothered about family. he's not bothered about the royal family the future of the royal family because would, would because if he would, he would read know that it read the room and know that it was day when he should have was a day when he should have if he go, go the back he wanted to go, go in the back entrance the queen. right. entrance with the queen. right. still britain still to come, britain a slap down president emmanuel down french president emmanuel macron's idea to send macron's ridiculous idea to send

nato into ukraine with nato troops into ukraine with britain's on .

gb news. >> oh, we're chattering away here. >> it's 1119 on here. >> it's1119 on britain's newsroom on gb news. mike parry and stephen pound are back in the studio with us. right. we're all speculating and also all sort of speculating and also discussing this , this discussing stephen, this, this news about prince harry now not being able to have his paid protection. we're looking at prince andrew at the memorial yesterday , speculating as to yesterday, speculating as to whether that was means . whether that was means. >> say that we're not >> and they say that we're not obsessed with the royal family. do you know what's really bad do you know what's a really bad look harry? i mean, look with prince harry? i mean, to be honest, prince harry from, you morning dusk is you know, morning till dusk is a bad but just bad look. but mps are just getting extra million for getting an extra £30 million for personal yeah, personal protection. yeah, the presenter prince is presenter and prince harry is being well, i'm being denied it. well, i'm sorry, there's little of sorry, there's a little bit of an imbalance there. sorry, there's a little bit of an they're ce there. sorry, there's a little bit of an they're working. yeah, >> they're working. yeah, they're public figures. they're working. public figures. harry's

they're working. public figures. haryeah. i have say how >> yeah. i have to say how refreshing to hear you say that. mps work. >> i mean, no, stephen, i'm a fan harriet harman . fan of harriet harman. >> be from home, >> they'd be working from home, though, going though, right? we're going to come that, though, just come on to that, though, in just a mike, stay with come on to that, though, in just a royal mike, stay with come on to that, though, in just a royal story. mike, stay with come on to that, though, in just a royal story. then stay with come on to that, though, in just a royal story. then just' with come on to that, though, in just a royal story. then just forth this royal story. then just for a little while. well, i'm very, very pleased. >> mean, i was trying to work very pleased. >> theean, i was trying to work very pleased. >> the details as trying to work very pleased. >> the details as tryingiso work very pleased. >> the details as tryingis invork out the details of it. it is in fact, prince harry loses legal challenge against the home office. that's office. right? so that's not directly scotland yard, you know, we can't give know, who've said we can't give you our officers. this is a matter of principle all through which the british government have expressed their their opinion and what is right and wrong. and i think that makes it a completely different story. you know, i mean, people could have said, well, it's wrong of scotland yard not they'll scotland yard not to say they'll look after harry, but if the home office say it would have been home office say it would have bee don't forget exactly, exactly i >> -- >> but look, i'm so pleased because as, um, i heard one of you, i think it was yourself, andrew, earlier in this show, that he would get the level of protection scotland yard protection that scotland yard give people of his stature give to people of his stature anyway, didn't need to. anyway, so he didn't need to. but in my opinion, anybody in

this , he gets full this country, he gets full protection police at all protection of the police at all times, at least they should . times, or at least they should. i mean, agree that harry is i mean, i agree that harry is more person , uh, not more of a famous person, uh, not a member of the royal family more, but a celebrity. and so the police are equipped to give extra attention and extra resources to that which they do wear. the harry paid for it. >> so i'm sorry, mike. look, i can think of a sentence involving the words cake and eat it. if you withdraw from public life, from royal life, you withdraw from royal duties. withdraw duties. you actually withdraw to your montecito. then your castle in montecito. then i'm expect the i'm sorry. you cannot expect the british taxpayer. i agree here to actually be paying your. to actually be paying for your. >> but he didn't >> no, no, but but he didn't want that, did he, stephen? he wanted able say, look, wanted to be able to say, look, i've made million in i've made 100 million in montecito going to a montecito and i'm going to use a couple dollars of couple of million dollars of that up couple that to buy up a couple of british with guns . yeah, british bobbies with guns. yeah, yeah, yeah, about the guns, isn't it? >> and obviously, this is probably partly to do with his wife, because she's used to a gun culture. that's true. gun culture. yes. that's true. don't a massive don't actually have a massive problem in this problem with guns in this country. he doesn't need to necessarily. also saying necessarily. he was also saying about when his children are over

here. >> i mean, you don't take your children school and bring children out of school and bring them over to here. it just seems a the whole seems a very the whole thing seems odd, seen them odd, but i haven't seen them anyway. other anyway. yeah, but the other thing, course, harry, you thing, of course, harry, is, you know, as constantly know, he's as he constantly tells he's trained killer tells us, he's a trained killer who killed people in helmand who killed 27 people in helmand province. so does need province. so does he need protection? need protection? >> well, he's the again, >> well, he's the victim again, isn't done it isn't he? yeah, he's done it again. what so good at again. what they're so good at those is casting. those two. is casting. >> poor me. those two. is casting. >> but poor me. those two. is casting. >> but is poor me. those two. is casting. >> but is it poor me. those two. is casting. >> but is it alsor me. those two. is casting. >> but is it alsor rsense of >> but is it also a sense of reminding the world of. i am a very important person, as a matter royal matter whether i'm in the royal family not. when i come here, family or not. when i come here, ineed family or not. when i come here, i need convoy of four cars. i need a convoy of four cars. one them's to armed one of them's got to have armed policemen it. i mean, that's policemen in it. i mean, that's what feeling about what i get. the feeling about his judicial review. what i get. the feeling about his he judicial review. what i get. the feeling about his he was cial review. what i get. the feeling about his he wascial reyto n. what i get. the feeling about his he wascial reyto point out >> he was trying to point out that was a victim of some that he was a victim of some form of vindictive yes, form of vindictive spite. yes, because had the i've had form of vindictive spite. yes, bec temerity had the i've had form of vindictive spite. yes, bec temerity to d the i've had form of vindictive spite. yes, bec temerity to walk i've had form of vindictive spite. yes, bec temerity to walk away1ad form of vindictive spite. yes, bec temerity to walk away from the temerity to walk away from the temerity to walk away from the royal family. this is how they're repaying me? yes. and they're repaying me? yes. and the clear. the judge is quite clear. there's nothing irrational about what office did. what the home office did. >> is the >> absolutely. and it is the british government behind british government who is behind this decision. not what i'm saying is , it's not it's an saying is, it's not like it's an individual at the top of the metropolitan police or something. >> you could argue, of course,

that harry's own fear is rational because of what happened to his mother. if you've lost your mother at that age and you have a different relationship with death as you inevitably will if you lose your mum you're younger under mum when you're younger under circumstances which were of a violent nature. but be that an accident or not, you know, maybe that maybe he's right to ask. >> i'm sorry, princess diana actually had a close protection officer in the car with her. she did at the time, the only one who yeah, well, he had who survived. yeah, well, he had a seatbelt on. >> yes. did. yes. >> yes. he did. yes. >>— >> yes. he did. yes. >> in the front. >> yeah, yeah, in the front. >> yeah, yeah, in the front. >> mean, henri paul have to >> i mean, henri paul i have to say, you know, now the details coming about his blood coming out about his blood alcohol, was he was alcohol, well, he was he was a drunk body of drunk and his body was full of alcohol ex—foreign legion alcohol and ex—foreign legion, wasn't it? >> it is it plausible, do you >> is it is it plausible, do you think william think that prince william pulled out service out of the memorial service yesterday prince andrew out of the memorial service yestthere? prince andrew out of the memorial service yestthere? could prince andrew out of the memorial service yestthere? could it’rince andrew out of the memorial service yestthere? could it be ce andrew out of the memorial service yestthere? could it be to andrew out of the memorial service yestthere? could it be to dojrew was there? could it be to do with the fact that this close friend of william's, as well, it's front of the it's on the front page of the paper today, a young royal, 45 years uh, years old, um, king austen, uh, what's tom kingston. what's his name? tom kingston. tom kingston. thank not tom kingston. thank you. not that be a household name or that he'd be a household name or face of us. really but face to any of us. really but a

friend william's. he also friend of william's. he also died he to. died on sunday. he used to. >> dated pippa middleton. died on sunday. he used to. >> that's ed pippa middleton. died on sunday. he used to. >> that's right.ypa middleton. died on sunday. he used to. >> that's right. so middleton. died on sunday. he used to. >> that's right. so a iddleton. died on sunday. he used to. >> that's right. so a close on. >> that's right. so a close friend of the family. could it be that he didn't the be that he didn't go to the wedding because of the loss of be that he didn't go to the we(friend?ecause of the loss of be that he didn't go to the we(friend? sorry of the loss of be that he didn't go to the we(friend? sorry the:he loss of be that he didn't go to the we(friend? sorry the memorial his friend? sorry the memorial service. andrew. service. thank you. andrew. >> think some way. >> yeah. i think in some way. i mean, can talk around mean, look, we can talk around the houses this we the houses about this one. we can around block. we can go around the block. we won't for certain. i don't won't know for certain. i don't we ever will to be we ever will know. to be perfectly honest. but i'd like we ever will know. to be pethinky honest. but i'd like we ever will know. to be pethinky honesttw0|t i'd like we ever will know. to be pethinky honesttwo options.e to think there's two options. one is he didn't want to in one is he didn't want to be in the let alone the the same city, let alone the same as prince same church as prince andrew. the thing the the second thing is maybe the tom kingston thing very close tom kingston thing is very close to were very to home. they were very much from dated from the same group. they dated the were very, the sisters. they were very, very each other. the very close to each other. the thing there, though, is that i think tom kingston died on sunday. think tom kingston died on sundetalking couple of days we're talking a couple of days later and i'm sorry, the queen had very upper lip. had that very stiff upper lip. >> to get on it. >> you've got to get on with it. yeah. i'm sorry , the yeah. and what i'm sorry, the show goes on and all that. >> very important, but. >> it's very important, but. >> it's very important, but. >> and this was his godfather's memorial service. it was of spain. of spain flew in spain. the king of spain flew in for very important for it. a very important i agree, stephen just pointed out how he was to the royal how close he was to the royal family know that , family now, and we know that, um, course, is in her

um, kate, of course, is in her own recovery period. >> if pippa had got terribly emotional, her sister about it, and that had just got through to william, that possibility william, is that a possibility that he thought it would be disrespectful to public, you disrespectful to go public, you know, hours after one of his know, 48 hours after one of his best friends died ? best friends had died? >> it's just easier >> why, mike, it's just easier sometimes the royal family sometimes for the royal family just to tell us. >> e because we're >> yeah, i agree, because we're now all really, really speculating aren't we on. >> but there's one thing, mike. there's one thing we can all agree. >> well, well, in fairness, they did a statement did put out a statement saying that of wales that the princess of wales continues well . they said, continues to do well. they said, you know, can we not agree that the one thing that is indisputable about this is that prince bang out of prince andrew is bang out of order? >> yeah, completely very, order? >> yselfish. npletely very, very selfish. >> way pushed himself. >> the way he pushed himself. >> the way he pushed himself. >> but that that leering. >> yes. that leer . >> yes. that leer. >> yes. that leer. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> yeah i know, um, let's just get one more story on. >> prince andrew shall be king lean >> stephen britten rejecting emmanuel macron's insane suggestion that nato troops should go into. >> well, i have to say i always get a short get worried when a short frenchman starts getting delusions grandeur . delusions of military grandeur. you never but he thinks

you never know. but he thinks he's napoleon. >> he's compared himself to napoleon . napoleon. >> stefan signore, the foreign minister said we may have troops in ukraine, but they're not going to cross the wait for it. the belligerent threshold. i'm sorry. well, it precisely, but i remember i mean , none of you remember i mean, none of you will remember in the will remember this, but in the vietnam war, we had australian troops there they troops over there and they were down initially at like the american troops advisors. american troops as advisors. they in they weren't there, but in reality, weren't. what what reality, they weren't. what what they're there is they're talking about there is having troops on the having french troops on the ground ukraine, and that is ground in ukraine, and that is potentially lethal. >> world war iii. >> world war iii. >> yeah , well escalating >> yeah, well he escalating might isn't it. well no macron realised what he'd said and immediately rowed back on it and said i'm talking about having there for training purposes. you know train ukrainians now if know, to train ukrainians now if he wants to do that, why doesn't he wants to do that, why doesn't he do it the way we do it? we've trained nearly 30,000 ukrainian troops in this exactly on salisbury plain , in tanks with salisbury plain, in tanks with anti—tank missiles and all that. and we've done more than any other country in the world to do that. but wants to be billy that. but he wants to be billy big again, right. the

big boots again, right. and the french very strange french have a very strange relationship military , relationship with the military, with nato and with their view of the world, because they're so arrogant. charles de gaulle , i arrogant. charles de gaulle, i mean, laid the blueprint, didn't he, that france will never be subservient to the united states of america, despite the fact that the states of that the united states of america had to liberate them in the war, and the second world war, and they've forgiven them. they've never forgiven them. >> amazing a case >> they've never amazing a case when said to when general de gaulle said to eisenhower, want your eisenhower, we want to get your troops europe and troops out of europe and eisenhower said, does that include the dead ones? include all the dead ones? >> yes, yes. but i mean, >> yes, yes, yes. but i mean, stephane sejourne , the foreign stephane sejourne, the foreign minister, who's actually made this statement, who says talking about seems to be the outlier about he seems to be the outlier here for macron. >> and at the moment there's only in the world in only one country in the world in europe actually europe that has actually supported this. and that's le mania. france can breathe mania. so france can breathe easy. right. easy. yeah, right. >> out of time, gentlemen. >> oh again. >> oh not again. >> oh not again. >> ask you. did you hear >> just ask you. did you hear about the fight at the chippy the other day? >> tell me. somebody get battered. >> a got battered and >> a fish got battered and a bunch of chips were assaulted . bunch of chips were assaulted. oh, yeah. >> i didn't write it. >> i didn't write it. >> lucky it was. oh dear me.

>> lucky it was. oh dear me. >> yeah, exactly. well, we're going the stick going to be previewing the stick with job. with the day job. >> if were you back then >> if i were you back then it'd be the back my church. be in the back of my church. >> it have been the >> would it have been the chipmunk or the fish fryer? yeah. >> so anyway,

gb news. >> and still to come , the >> and still to come, the scandal about how many small and medium businesses are being de—banking. it wasn't just nigel farage, you know . but first, farage, you know. but first, your news with sophia . your news with sophia. >> thanks, andrew. it's 1131. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom . the duke of sussex has newsroom. the duke of sussex has lost his high court challenge against the government over his personal security . prince harry personal security. prince harry launched legal action in february 2020 after he was told he would no longer be given the same degree of taxpayer funded protection when he's in the uk. his lawyers told the court he

was treated less favourably . he was treated less favourably. he and children wouldn't feel and his children wouldn't feel at home if they couldn't be kept safe . the government argued. safe. the government had argued. prince protection should prince harry's protection should be because it's be dismissed because it's considered on a case by case bafis considered on a case by case basis , as thousands of farmers basis, as thousands of farmers will gather for a demonstration outside the welsh parliament to protest against changes they say are threatening the industry. new rules have been proposed for subsidies , which includes subsidies, which includes a requirement for 10% of agriculture land to be used for trees. the labour government insists the change is necessary to fight climate change, but could be adjusted by the end of the consultation . seven mps are the consultation. seven mps are facing threats to their safety, will get extra security as part of a new £31 million government package. of a new £31 million government package . it follows growing package. it follows growing concerns over mps being targeted by protesters in recent months. since the outbreak of the israel—hamas war. the home office said the package would be used to increase private sector security provisions, with all elected representative is to have a dedicated, named police

contact to liaise with on security matters . and any security matters. and any savings from the cut to national insurance will be wiped out by tory council tax rises . that's tory council tax rises. that's according to the labour party . according to the labour party. it comes after the chancellor promised the largest ever tax cut for workers , with a 2% cut cut for workers, with a 2% cut to national insurance , but with to national insurance, but with 95% of council expected to put up council tax by to the maximum of 4.99% from april, it's set to cancel out any savings and for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. com slash alerts . for gb news. com slash alerts. for exclusive, limited edition and rare gold coins that are always newsworthy, rosalind gold proudly sponsors the gb news financial report . and here's a financial report. and here's a quick snapshot of today's

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but i would say there's been not quite a dereliction of duty. >> but there's been a slipping of standards in terms of service. now, we all remember, don't we? when natwest tried don't we? um, when natwest tried to debank our colleague nigel farage and strip him of his coutts account, and that didn't turn out well because clearly they did do it for political reasons that bang to rights. and nigel rightly got an apology from the natwest chief executive, and she subsequently had to stand. indeed, stand down. this is slightly different. this is the treasury select committee . as you know, select committee. as you know, i think a lot of the best work in the commons goes on in the committees. these cross—party group of mps and house of lords have the same mps committed to investigating things. they're interested in on a cross—party basis. one of the most powerful select committees westminster select committees at westminster is select committee is the treasury select committee , and they've been investigating whether or not banks are not just de—banking people but are de—banking businesses as small businesses now , as i often say

businesses now, as i often say here on gb news on the money generally we are good at small businesses in this country, businesses in this country, businesses of less than 100, 150 people, they employ two thirds of us. they generate half of our national income , of our gdp. national income, of our gdp. they're really, really important. a lot of banks are starting to think these small businesses , they don't make them businesses, they don't make them any money. why should we bother? and in the last year, and just in the last year, 150,000 small business accounts have been closed down. how do they 3. imagine you're running a small business. you've got payroll to make. yeah. you've got suppliers that you have to keep paying . otherwise you lose keep paying. otherwise you lose your credit rating with them . your credit rating with them. you're trying to bring money in the tax man their cash the tax man wants their cash every quarter for vat. >> you function. it's almost a human right, isn't it, to have a bank account. what it is andrew, there's something called the universal service obligation. >> right. what does that mean? it means say, for instance , if it means say, for instance, if you're the post office, you have a universal service obligation .

a universal service obligation. then you have to deliver to orkney , just as you have to orkney, just as you have to deliver to central london. right. that's a universal service obligation . if have right. that's a universal sebankingligation . if have right. that's a universal sebanking license . if have right. that's a universal sebanking license inf have right. that's a universal sebanking license in this have a banking license in this country , which literally, country, which is literally, literally a license to create money, that's what it literally is.then money, that's what it literally is. then it comes with a universal service obligation . universal service obligation. unless there are reasonable grounds , no fixed grounds for fraud, no fixed abode, whatever it is , you have abode, whatever it is, you have to give people a bank account or a company bank account if they're up. they're bona fides, stack up. but you've got a lot of banks now. there withdrawing from communities . we know there are communities. we know there are banking deserts and also they're withdrawing from companies . withdrawing from companies. >> and liam? >> and why? liam? >> and why? liam? >> because they think it's expensive maintain these expensive to maintain these accounts for small companies that have, you know, low balances , people running balances, people running businesses, as so many of us do, hand to mouth cash flows difficult. yeah. at the same time, the treasury select committee has brought out this report they're hearing this afternoon from afolami, afternoon from bim afolami, who's a talented tory business minister, the mp for saint albans, peter lily's old seat ,

albans, peter lily's old seat, very much seen as a tory rising star. and he they , you know, star. and he they, you know, they are going to question him big time. the treasury select committee about something that many of their constituents would have them, why is it have said to them, why is it that a small business or that i'm a small business or i work for a business? we work for a small business? we want grow. good what want to grow. we're good at what we an order book, we do. we've got an order book, but we can't raise cash. so many of our small businesses can't raise the cash. the finance to go on to the next stage , to go on to the next stage, to become medium sized, to become big businesses with a backbone, aren't they? >> the economy and the banks >> if the economy and the banks in this country not in this country are not very good, compared to the good, certainly compared to the german banks, the french banks, even banks at even the american banks at financing small businesses, they won't do the work, the legwork , won't do the work, the legwork, the local legwork of investigating small businesses. >> you're a good prospect . we're >> you're a good prospect. we're your local bank. we're going to back you. it's not happening. >> is where esg, your >> and this is where esg, your environmental, social governance is being weaponized and killing small businesses . and what small businesses. and what i mean by that is there are certain boxes you have to tick, particularly to get funding and to get loans . and if you're a

to get loans. and if you're a decorator redding , it's much decorator in redding, it's much harder show that you're harder to show that you're trying to save the planet than if you're corporation that if you're a corporation that creates paint and has a turnover of millions of pounds, and it's being used to push down the working person who employs people in their area, who spends money in their shops. it makes me sick , liam. me sick, liam. >> i think there's a lot in that. bev i think esg, environmental , social governance environmental, social governance issues are now being used, not necessarily for good, for good purposes. you know, some of them are well intentioned. some of the people in companies pushing this you know, have this stuff, you know, have the right salute what right idea. and i salute what they're doing. but sometimes it's weaponised. i think that's a fair in order to do what a fair word. in order to do what executives feel is commercially the thing that they want to do, even if it goes against their universal service obligations. look, why isn't britain growing, right? we've got all this entrepreneurial genius in our country. i mean, i say this as a as a recent immigrant, my family came over from ireland a lot like yours, andrew, back in the

day, this country has attracted entrepreneurs from around the world for generations. we have our own thoroughbred home—grown entrepreneurs too. we're really good at this small business stuff. so many of our small businesses , they get bought up businesses, they get bought up by foreign companies , they milk by foreign companies, they milk them, they make the real money out of them rather than keeping them here in the uk, keeping them here in the uk, keeping them british paying tax here because can't raise because they can't raise the finance, because british finance, because british finance, and particularly british banks , they won't do the british banks, they won't do the legwork. they don't want to do the to give the legwork to give entrepreneurial loans . in the entrepreneurial loans. in the main, some of them do look what's happening unlisted what's happening on the unlisted securities market the securities market aim in the city london. absolute city of london. absolute pathbreaking. are always pathbreaking. there are always exceptions to what i'm saying, but if you are that decorator in reading who's got vans full of guys, you're doing great work. you've got an order book and you want invest in new vans, new want to invest in new vans, new people got to be ulez compliant. all that you get all that stuff. you can't get the money to do it from a bank often. >> can anything be done to shame these bank into stop doing this?

>> think that's what the >> well, i think that's what the treasury committee treasury select committee are doing. i've been talking to various the treasury various members of the treasury select committee. you know, that's my job about what they should investigating this should be investigating this investigation de—banking investigation into de—banking has been some time in the making, i must say. i think what we did, you and i, bev with don't kill cash patrick. yeah. what nigel did with de—banking gb news has really planted a flag when it comes to the banking sector. has to look after individual people and the small and medium sized businessman and businesswoman . businessman and businesswoman. this is a major cultural issue . this is a major cultural issue. it's a cultural issue. it's a blockage in our financial system . it holds back entrepreneurs. i agree with you. and basically small businesses are the source of so much growth and what reason are being given to these businesses when they have their bank accounts taken away? >> because you said it might be they're profitable? i know they're not profitable? i know one guy who was running a up one guy who was running a gym up north, kept his gym open north, and he kept his gym open dunng north, and he kept his gym open during lockdowns he during the lockdowns because he thought, need thought, actually, we need people healthy, not sat home

people healthy, not sat at home getting and dying covid. getting fat and dying of covid. and open and and he kept them open and therefore he his bank therefore he lost his bank because of that and they'd never given him back. is it reasons given it him back. is it reasons like that? >> will be many reasons like that? >again, will be many reasons like that? >again, i will be many reasons like that? >again, i shouldye many reasons like that? >again, i should sayiany reasons like that? >again, i should say i'm reasons like that? >again, i should say i'm not;ons . again, i should say i'm not accusing of breaking accusing any bank of breaking any they're doing any laws. they're not doing things are illegal. but i things that are illegal. but i do think they are using sometimes quite spurious , uh, sometimes quite spurious, uh, reasons you know, there will be some businesses look, this business is full of fraud. there are massive tax investigations, you know , we're not sure of the you know, we're not sure of the bona fides of some of them will need closing down. you shut down the bank account. that is a legitimate absolutely. legitimate thing. absolutely. from governance view. from a governance point of view. but there are people and mps have heard from them. i've heard from them who feel that their bank accounts are being closed down just because they're not buying other products from the bank, they are literally using the as utility rather the bank as a utility rather than as a kind of, you know, ongoing suite of services. there's no profit , ongoing suite of services. there's no profit, and the bank wants to sell stuff on the side. these small owners, these small business owners, they're obviously often very, very shrewd . and they don't go

very shrewd. and they don't go into overdraft because obviously that's a big deal for them. they manage businesses , you manage their businesses, you know, by the skin of the teeth every day, living their wits every day, living on their wits and so the banks can't charge them want charge them what they want to charge them. not reason to them. but that's not a reason to close down these businesses, because these businesses are the lifeblood economy. lifeblood of our economy. talking of small businesses, thanks halligan. >> of halligan. >> talking of small businesses, we're be talking in we're going to be talking in just a minute to chippies. just a minute to two chippies. there's the week that there's one day of the week that fish really scared of. fish are really scared of. what's andrew pierce what's that? andrew pierce friday god, that was so friday oh my god, that was so bad. you say oh my god, she bad. did you say oh my god, she did . did. >> i

i >> right. this will get you hungry for lunch. the country's top fish and chip shops are gathering in london today to decide the best in the business at national fish and chip at the national fish and chip awards, industry worth i >> -- >> can kan- h believe there's £2 >> can you believe there's £2 billion to the economy? but the challenge is chippies are facing aren't cost of aren't just rival shops. cost of living are living and other pressure are also between them and also obstacles between them and

success. right. success. that's right. >> so we sent our east midlands reporter , will hollis, to this reporter, will hollis, to this seaside for portion and to seaside for a portion and to meet of the finalists meet one of the finalists a national favour that it's hard to go wrong with fish and chips when brits get hungry. >> we've got two cod and chips with some scraps , salt and with some scraps, salt and vinegar, slice of lemon . but vinegar, slice of lemon. but being the best in the business means taking on more than 10,000 other chippies at the national fish and chip awards at chapel saint leonards on the lincolnshire coastline, the team at marina fish and chips are finally votes for the top prize takeaway of the year danielle and matthew started serving at the seaside in 2018. in the summer, the holiday makers , summer, the holiday makers, they're coming for a quality fish and chip shop with the scenery of the beach as well, but also our locals. >> they also want a good quality fish and chips all year round. >> the couple says fresh food is what keeps the customers coming

back. >> everything is freshly cooked to order so each customers getting the getting a consistent product every time. nobody wants an oily, soggy fish. definitely not brits eat a whopping 167 million portions a year. >> more than a few of those at the seaside . the seaside. >> and it's just part of our culture, isn't it? i think you come to the seaside, you just expect to be able to have fish and . and chips somewhere. >> the fish and chips here are fantastic, but they've got plenty of competition. they have to beat if they're going to win big in the fish and chip shop awards . as there are nine other awards. as there are nine other shops from across the country contending for the best takeaway, but also awards for sustainability , the staff and sustainability, the staff and even the best overseas chippy . even the best overseas chippy. the awards is a celebration despite tough times , the despite tough times, the industry has been battered by the cost of living and

international turmoil. >> there you go andrew won cod chips, mushy peas and homemade tartare sauce. >> enjoy . >> enjoy. >> enjoy. >> fantastic. >> fantastic. >> lucky boy to these andrew is president of the national federation of fish friers fish and chips are still popular. >> we're still getting people through the door, but it's the profit margin affected. profit margin that's affected. it's leaving shop owners with very little at the end of the month. >> he hopes the chancel can think of fish and chips in the upcoming budget. all of hospitality is calling for reform of vat , and with the reform of vat, and with the budget up, that budget coming up, we hope that they've got their ears open and they're be and they're willing to be brave and act on only one chippy can act on it. only one chippy can be crowned king of the business. however the customers favourite is usually the one just around the corner from home. will hollis gb news chapel, saint leonards , oh, i am so desperate leonards, oh, i am so desperate for some fish and chips now, just so people know, bev may think it's odd that i like a pickled egg or a pickled onion or both my fish and chips. or both with my fish and chips. >> bev likes and chips with

>> bev likes fish and chips with mushy peas , gravy and curry mushy peas, gravy and curry sauce. disgusting >> any mancunians out there? in fact, anybody from the north of england will know that fish and chips without gravy is just not worth doing. >> tomato ketchup has to be hind and a bit of that as well as well . well. >> how do you taste a fish and chips ? chips? >> but aren't you the person who broke the hilarious story about peter mandelson day asking peter mandelson one day asking for some? >> peter mansson was a candidate in hartlepool. this rather metropolitan figure that he was, and he went into a fish and chip shop hartlepool doing his bit shop in hartlepool doing his bit campaigning he ordered campaigning and he ordered his fish chips. with fish and chips. he's with all his and he points to his canvases and he points to the behind him says, and the man behind him and says, and i'll nice of that. the man behind him and says, and i'll nice. nice of that. the man behind him and says, and i'll nice. uma of that. the man behind him and says, and i'll nice. um um, of that. the man behind him and says, and i'll nice. um um, guacamole . very nice. um um, guacamole. there's a long pause to which the chip shop owner says , you the chip shop owner says, you mean me? mushy peas ? he's never mean me? mushy peas? he's never forgiven me for writing that peter murrell and i write it all the time now. he sees the funny side of it, but he didn't at the time. >> absolutely. i think it's

hilarious. well, um, listen, people, you've all been getting in to talk about in touch at home to talk about prince losing his judicial prince harry losing his judicial review he should review into whether he should have steve says, does have security. steve says, does this set a precedent now, that means andrew will have to pay for own protection. he does for his own protection. he does already. for his own protection. he does alreyeah . >> yeah. >> yeah. >> oh, that's a lot more. don't go anywhere. i've not quite finished with you yet. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hi there. it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office with the latest forecast for gb news cloudy increasing from the west today with rain moving east, but it will be milder for most of us by the afternoon. has been a chilly bright start in the chilly but bright start in the east. got these east. however, we've got these weather fronts in now. a weather fronts moving in now. a warm areas of warm front bringing areas of cloud some outbreaks of cloud and some outbreaks of rain. rain will be rain. that rain will be persistent in west be persistent in the west will be heavy particularly heavy at times, particularly over later on over parts of wales and later on northwest england. but it does stay dry throughout much of the afternoon. in the far east, especially anglia the

especially east anglia in the south—east, where we cling on to some but some brighter skies. but elsewhere largely cloudy, elsewhere it's largely cloudy, the picking up that the breeze picking up that breeze is bringing milder conditions, generally conditions, so generally temperatures at 9 to 12 celsius, it's not going to feel as fresh as more recent days. then into the evening, the bands of rain move east. there'll be some heavy bursts at times, again, mostly over western hills and as the night goes on, the main focus for the rain pushes south and eastwards with showers replacing the wet weather across scotland and northern ireland. colder air moving in here with some of these showers falling as snow over the scottish mountains by dawn and the wind really picks in northwest with picks up in the northwest with gales across north and gales across the north and northwest of scotland, 60 mile per hour gusts and it's going to feel colder, but there will be some brighter spells in between the showers. meanwhile, further south—east, a mild start the south—east, a mild start to the day start and that day but a damp start and that rain hangs on into the afternoon. 12 celsius for london, six celsius there in the north scotland , looks like north of scotland, looks like things are heating up.

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gb news. >> well, it's wednesday, so it must be prime minister's questions. let's go straight now to gloria de piero and christopher for pmqs in our christopher hope for pmqs in our westminster studio. >> andrew and hi bev. yes, >> yes, andrew and hi bev. yes, it's that time of week for it's that time of the week for you sending in your you to be sending in your questions. you what you to be sending in your questi ilistenersietting our viewers opposition, sir keir starmer? >> ilisteners questions. viewers and listeners questions. remember who you are, remember to tell us who you are, give us name and where give us your name and where you're going to put you're from. we're going to put it our brilliant panel it to our brilliant panel of politicians. news politicians. gb news at gbnews.com pmqs live is all about you, bev and andrew, briefly, what would you be asking the prime minister today? >> very simple question from me to the prime minister. do you want to keep lee anderson as a member of the conservative party good and i might ask

good question. and i might ask him on the day of the fish and chip awards, how does the prime minister like his fish and chips? >> it tells you a lot about a person with guacamole or mushy peas. >> i'm actually . well, thank >> i'm actually. well, thank you, bev, and thank you andrew. it's fast approaching midday. but first of all, the questions for our bob. >> this is gb news, britain's election channel pmqs live starts right now. >> this midday on wednesday the 28th of february. this is pmqs live on gb news with gloria de piero and me, christopher hope in just 2.5 minutes time, rishi sunak and keir starmer will go head to head at prime minister's questions. >> we'll have full coverage of every and we'll be every moment and we'll be getting reaction from every moment and we'll be getting office action from every moment and we'll be getting office ministerym every moment and we'll be getting office minister alex cabinet office minister alex burghart and the labour mp

stella creasy . but before that, stella creasy. but before that, let's say hello to you both . let's say hello to you both. thank you both for being here. um, stella, we're hearing a lot about mp security at the moment in the news. and i read an article that you wrote last week in the guardian saying that pubuc in the guardian saying that public life is drowned in hate and violence . what does that and violence. what does that mean on a day to day level? >> it means it's really sad because it means you can't have a conversation. and a proper conversation. and actually all of us as mps want to be able to our to be able to talk to our constituents. to hear constituents. we want to hear people disagree this. people who disagree with this. i like people disagree like hearing people who disagree with makes me with me, because it makes me think they might think about whether they might have or actually have a point or whether actually i'm you i'm doing the right thing. you can't if people are can't do that if people are screaming and shouting at you or sending threats sending you death threats or rape that is rape threats, and sadly, that is happening more frequently rape threats, and sadly, that is happ people more frequently rape threats, and sadly, that is happ people startnore frequently rape threats, and sadly, that is happ people start angry equently rape threats, and sadly, that is happ people start angry equethen now. people start angry and then they have the questions we need to around. to turn it around. >> this £31 million of >> is this £31 million of comfort to you? announcement comfort to you? the announcement that up the that the government will up the security spending an extra 30? >> i don't want live in >> i don't want to live in a bubble. want to be able go bubble. i want to be able to go out constituency to chat out in my constituency to chat to i'd love to to people. i'd love them to spend finding people spend money finding the people

doing it's not doing this because it's not democracy. of the democracy. if 50% of the conversation in fear conversation is living in fear of it's people of its life, it's the people doing we need to challenge i >> -- >> yes, quite. alex, you heard that andrew pearce's question there. hanson there. do you think lee hanson might today at might cross the floor today at pmqs? the time pmqs? it's normally the time it happens the pm. happens before, before the pm. i very much hope not. >> um, yeah . >> um, yeah. >> um, yeah. >> what lee said last week was a bit clumsy. i'm sure we'll talk about it later, but i very much want him stay part of the want him to stay part of the conservative you conservative family. have you been commons chamber been in the commons chamber when an mp has crossed the floor? i think there nick think i was there when nick boles during the sort boles did, um, during the sort of shenanigans . and yeah, of brexit shenanigans. and yeah, they're dramatic moments, they're pretty dramatic moments, but we're going to but i don't think we're going to see today. but i don't think we're going to seeso today. but i don't think we're going to seeso tothink but i don't think we're going to see so to think there but i don't think we're going to seeso tothink there is a way >> so you think there is a way back for lee anderson? >> i so, yeah . he's been >> i hope so, yeah. he's been told to apologise and won't apologise. think you apologise. well, i think if you look the, uh, very carefully look at the, uh, very carefully chosen words he put in the express today , uh, that's a good express today, uh, that's a good indication of how he sort of clarified his meaning. clarified some of his meaning. but this matter for but look, this is a matter for the chief whip. um, not the chief whip. um, i'm not going to stray his territory. >> what's it like for you to witness? sorry. witness? uh. sorry. >> oh, clumsy . clumsy. >> alex. oh, clumsy. clumsy. you're that what lee

you're saying that what lee anderson said was clumsy ? yeah. anderson said was clumsy? yeah. do you recognise it was. and i think about it was about think about racism. it was about , i think i think prime minister, he wrote in the express today. >> have you read it? have you read it? >> mr speaker, this morning i had meetings with ministerial colleagues and others in addition duties this house. >> i shall have further such meetings later today . meetings later today. >> it wolfley thank you, mr >> it does wolfley thank you, mr speaken >> it does wolfley thank you, mr speaker, thank right speaker, and i thank my right honourable his answer. >> p- e certain that >> now, i'm certain that everyone in this chamber will agree, whatever their political standpoint that should be standpoint, that we should be able speak and vote able to think, speak and vote without or favour . without fear or favour. >> but today i need to ask about the painful subject of dental care in clacton , which is in care in clacton, which is in crisis . our care in clacton, which is in crisis. our ics has found the money and a private firm has found the students to massively increase dental appointments. in my patch, however, paper pushers in the nhs england keep citing spunous in the nhs england keep citing spurious reasons to prevent this groundbreaking initiative being deployed. does my right honourable friend agree with me that this is scandalous and

should be dealt with and those people