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islamist extremists and far right groups are spreading poison. and he said , trying to poison. and he said, trying to tear us apart. it followed george galloway's win in rochdale's by—election, which rishi sunak described as beyond alarming . alarming. >> the rochdale by—election returned a candidate who dismisses the horror of what happened on october 7, who glorified hezbollah and is endorsed by nick griffin , the endorsed by nick griffin, the racist former leader of the bnp . racist former leader of the bnp. ineed racist former leader of the bnp. i need to speak to you all this evening because this situation has gone on long enough and demands a response, not just from government, but from all of us. >> us. >> in response to rishi sunak statement last night, opposition parties have given mixed reactions with the liberal democrats accusing him of sowing seeds of division. however the labour leader, sir keir starmer, said rishi sunak is right to call for the country to unite and to condemn what he called unacceptable and intimidating behaviour .

unacceptable and intimidating behaviour. the new mp for rochdale, george galloway, who's also a former presenter for iranian state tv, said that the prime minister was playing a very dangerous game that could drive young muslims onto the rocks of extremism . rocks of extremism. >> it's worse than a lie. it's dangerous because you see, if you're saying to muslims who vote that your vote will be delegitimized if you cast it the wrong way , and if you go out on wrong way, and if you go out on a demonstration peacefully to demonstrate, then then you'll be called a terrorist . and new laws called a terrorist. and new laws , new police, uh, approach marches will be conjured forth against you if you do that , you against you if you do that, you are driving people away from the path of democracy and peaceful, democratic protest . democratic protest. >> organisers of this weekend's protests have responded to the prime minister's warning of stronger action by police, suggesting that he reconsider the divisive positions of some of his fellow mps. it's

the divisive positions of some of his fellow mps . it's after of his fellow mps. it's after rishi sunak pledged last night to support the robust policing of demonstrators , particularly of demonstrators, particularly pro—palestinian marches. the met police have in the past said that showing support for a terror group is, they say, a criminal offence, adding that the right to protest does come with a response. ability to act within the law and several local marches are planned today and tomorrow before another national demonstration in london on the 9th of march. in the us, president biden has said that he hopes to see a ceasefire agreement between israel and hamas before the start of ramadan, coming up on the 10th of march. it comes as the us announced plans for a military airdrop of food and supplies into gaza to tackle the growing humanitarian crisis there. well, the united nations is also warning that around 25% of the population of gaza , that's more population of gaza, that's more than half a million people, are on the brink of famine. than half a million people, are on the brink of famine . back on the brink of famine. back here in the uk , a manhunt is now

here in the uk, a manhunt is now underway after three people were injured last night in a shooting injured last night in a shooting in an area of london that's popular with bars and restaurants. the shots were fired by assailants on a moped as they were being pursued by police in clapham in south london. that was at around 5:00 last night. two people we understand suffered gunshot pellet injuries as they were drinking at a nearby pub, and a third person was also injured by the moped itself . police say the the moped itself. police say the injuries, though, are not life threatening. detectives are now trying to trace that moped and the suspects after they fled the scene . the retirement of 30 scene. the retirement of 30 typhoon jets that were used to protect british skies from potential attacks has been likened to scrapping spitfires before the battle of britain, raf bosses are trying to ground the fleet in an effort to save a reported £300 million. that's despite only completing 40% of their predicted flying hours. it comes as the defence secretary grant shapps, urges the

chancellor to increase military spending to 2.5% of gdp, something, though , that jeremy something, though, that jeremy hunt says won't be in next week's budget. military historian and defence analyst chris newton told gb news this morning that the jets should, he says, be kept in service . says, be kept in service. >> it does send the wrong message and with regards to russia and our willingness, if we can't spend this money on on an operational reserve, it doesn't send a good message to russia and about our resolve and our willingness to deter major conflict . those are the conflict. those are the headunes conflict. those are the headlines for now. >> i'll be back in the next houn >> i'll be back in the next hour. in the meantime, you can sign up to all of the latest news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen, or if you're listening on radio, go to gb news. carmelites . gb news. carmelites. >> welcome to saturday morning live prime minister rishi sunak has claimed that democracy is

under threat from extremism in the wake of hamas's october the 7th attack on israel . 7th attack on israel. >> in a speech to the nation, he also said that there are forces here at home trying to tear us apart. take a listen. >> i fear that our great achievement in building the world's most successful , world's most successful, multi—ethnic, multi—faith democracy is being deliberately undermined . there are forces undermined. there are forces here at home trying to tear us apart on too many occasions. recently our streets have been hijacked by small groups who are hostile to our values and have no respect for our democratic traditions, threats of violence and intimidation are alien to our way of doing things. they must be resisted at all times . must be resisted at all times. >> now to react to this, we're joined by former labour mp stephen pound . stephen, thank stephen pound. stephen, thank you. as ever for your company. my you. as ever for your company. my marvellous friend . now on the my marvellous friend. now on the front page of the eye newspaper this morning, sir keir starmer,

it says , has issued a grovelling it says, has issued a grovelling apology to his parliamentary party after george galloway obviously stormed home in that rochdale by—election. are you worried about the fact that galloway has done so well? >> well, i mean, let's get a couple of things straight. um, george galloway or galloway, as we used to call him, because, you know, he's got this sort of boiling bombast, but underneath it, there's not a great deal. he's in rochdale he's he's tried in, in rochdale to start talking about, you know, local elections know, local council elections and simon danczuk and threatening simon danczuk with apparently. with prison apparently. you know, really and truly, you know, but really and truly, you know, but really and truly, you know, he's a one trick pony. he's also a george galloway tribute now, i mean, he's tribute act. now, i mean, he's using that same old, same old ridiculous about, you ridiculous tropes about, you know, two cheeks same know, two cheeks of the same backside using 25 backside that he was using 25 years point is, years ago. look, the point is, the attention that we give the more attention that we give george galloway, the more it inflates preening ego. but inflates that preening ego. but the key questions we have to ask. firstly he is absolutely right two ways. one, to admit right in two ways. one, to admit that the party that the labour party contributed to what happened in rochdale . no question rochdale. no question about that. greens both that. we and the greens both actually candidates that

actually chose candidates that we then had to withdraw our support from the. the second thing is keir is utterly correct that offering his support to that in offering his support to the minister at this the prime minister at this particular time, i think the problem is that if you look at the it the times headline today, it actually rishi actually talks about rishi implores. and it sounds as though was weak and was though he was weak and he was begging he needs to begging the people he needs to begging the people he needs to be stronger that. be a bit stronger about that. the question really need to the question we really need to ask is the existential question is, this just about gaza, or is, is this just about gaza, or is, is this just about gaza, or is a fundamental is there now a fundamental disconnect between people disconnect between the people and that actually and parliament that actually implies something far more sinister and far more existentially threatening to this so is it just this country? so is it just about gaza, or is there more to it than that? those are the real key questions. and the final one is are being threatened in is mps are being threatened in their constituency and their constituency offices and in their homes. does rigorous , in their homes. does rigorous, robust policing exacerbate the situation, or does it defuse the situation? and that's the one that we need to actually tease out. we need to analyse and we need to drill down into the implications of it. steve >> there have been quite >> and there have been quite mixed responses to rishi sunak speech. think

speech. some people who think that being quite that he's actually being quite robust, other people robust, and other people who think hasn't been strong think that he hasn't been strong enough, particularly focusing think that he hasn't been strong enoumuchirticularly focusing think that he hasn't been strong enoumuch on,ularly focusing think that he hasn't been strong enoumuch on, um,y focusing think that he hasn't been strong enoumuch on, um, extremist ng very much on, um, extremist threats from the far right . what threats from the far right. what do you think is actually at stake here with respect to he's saying that our democracy , um, saying that our democracy, um, is at risk. do you think that this is the beginning of sectarian democratic politics in the uk ? the uk? >> there's always been a temptation to do that. i mean, you can go very, very sort of deep into the dark, poisoned well of sectarian hatred. and people have done it for years in this country. we've seen it, you know, principally from the far right. we've also seen it from people, you know, on, on in the world of islamic extremism. but by you know, the by and large, you know, the british are sort of, you british people are sort of, you know, fairly sensible when it comes it. and i think don't comes to it. and i think don't forget, george galloway, he will ultimately at forget, george galloway, he will ultiipolls,’ at forget, george galloway, he will ultiipolls, although at forget, george galloway, he will ultiipolls, although tendsit forget, george galloway, he will ultiipolls, although tends to the polls, although he tends to get for places and then get elected for places and then disappear. he'll become disappear. but he'll become slightly of i slightly a figure of fun. i mean, that ridiculous. he's the first leader since first political leader since anthony to make the fedora anthony eden to make the fedora hat. his trademark and hat. you know, his trademark and there's certain silliness

there's a certain silliness about man, but that doesn't about the man, but that doesn't disguise the poison that that actually exudes from him. so look, the key phrase, i think that rishi sunak used, he said the police must police the demonstrations, not manage the demonstrations. at the moment, the facilitating after you, cecil. after you. claudia. i mean the reality is the police when they actually see people beaming anti—semitic tropes, anti—israeli tropes, pro genocidal tropes onto the elizabeth tower in the house of commons. why are they standing back and saying, that's a nice bit of light show? you know, it simply isn't on. indeed we ask. we ask the police to do a lot. in this particular case, we ask them to something fairly them to do something fairly bafic them to do something fairly basic police demonstrations, basic police the demonstrations, not . not facilitate them. >> absolutely. i'm sure many are in complete agreement with you, steven, that stephen pound, their labour mp, now in their former labour mp, now in their former labour mp, now in the studio , we're delighted to the studio, we're delighted to be joined former special be joined by the former special adviser michael gove. charlie adviser to michael gove. charlie rowley and broadcaster susanna rowley and broadcaster s susanna . esther. hello. good morning . . esther. hello. good morning. we were talking just outside. yes about george galloway's

oratory and just how powerful it is now , whether or not you agree is now, whether or not you agree with the man's politic, it's his delivery and persuasiveness is pretty extraordinary, is it not? >> he's got those piercing blue eyes. you remember his exact speech about tony blair, tony blair, tony blair. and then i heard on the yesterday on the radio keir starmer kiest , you radio keir starmer kiest, you know, so it's almost like he's using the same phraseology, if you like . all he's done is swap you like. all he's done is swap the name around . look, he was the name around. look, he was the name around. look, he was the respect party head when i because i'm from tower hamlets, that's where i live. and he had a massive following in tower hamlets when he decided to to be launch respect party. and he launch the respect party. and he had a big song and a dance, and he he's a big character. he has got a big ego. and then he went on brother and up on big brother and licked up a saucer of milk with rula lenska. so so that's the kind of guy we're talking about. he is good at speaking and he's got charisma, but i'm not sure if i believe everything he says. charlie, do you think the labour party to apologise

party were right to apologise for what happened in rochdale? >> george galloway has >> because george galloway has been of targeting been accused of targeting the muslim vote and essentially exploiting that to win by focusing on gaza. do you think that the labour party actually do have something to answer for in in him winning on an almost on sectarian basis ? on sectarian basis? >> well, i must say that was an uncanny, um , likeness. i thought uncanny, um, likeness. i thought it was almost as if he was sat to next me, slightly worried . to next me, slightly worried. >> he's charlie, he's a charlie rowley . rowley. >> i won't sleep tonight . um >> i won't sleep tonight. um bethany elsey . i think you're bethany elsey. i think you're absolutely you're right. i mean, it was a disaster for the labour party, right? from the off. you know, they selected a candidate that clearly articulated anti—semitism, anti—semitism , anti—semitism, anti—semitism, semitic views , um, which was semitic views, um, which was absolutely right there for the labour party. ditched him. they took far too long to ditch him took far too long to ditch him to withdraw support, meaning that his name was still on the ballot paper and allowed people of good people of of rochdale, the good people of rochdale, still the rochdale, to still have the opportunity him. opportunity to vote for him. i mean, was a disaster for the

mean, it was a disaster for the labour party in terms of their selection, the election, the process in which they had in place. i think it's place. and so i think it's absolutely right sir absolutely right that sir keir starmer apologised that starmer apologised in that regard. let in. regard. and they have let in. i'm someone does i'm afraid someone who does have these extreme views that will because of his election leaflets that were out there. so his mandate is effectively now to stand up in the house of commons day after day, week after week, to sir keir starmer, to attack sir keir starmer, because what to because that's what he wants to do. wants revenge of the do. he wants revenge of the labour as a former labour labour party. as a former labour mp, wants to put the mp, but he wants to put the issue gaza at heart of issue of gaza at the heart of british democracy. he's not interested in schools, hospitals, the economy, anything interested in schools, hosjthat. the economy, anything interested in schools, hosjthat. thehis)nomy, anything interested in schools, hosjthat. the his election nything like that. all his election literature vote for george literature was vote for george galloway a vote gaza, and galloway is a vote for gaza, and that's he's going to be be that's all he's going to be be doing, and it is going to stoke tension. stoke tension. it's going to stoke division. it's to stoke division. it's going to stoke more a time or at a time more fear in a time or at a time where we need to defuse these tensions, solution and where we need to defuse these tenrains, solution and where we need to defuse these tenra resolution.;olution and get a resolution. >> well, in his speech he said this is for gaza, didn't he? and you just sort of think, well, what rochdale? you know, what about rochdale? you know, do this is a fluke do you think this is a fluke then for the labour party? or do you think actually the

you think actually come the general galloway general election, mr galloway could re—elected? could find himself re—elected? >> i mean, the thing >> who knows? i mean, the thing about that we about crystal balls is that we can make a and we can always make a plan and we can always make a plan and we can always make a plan and we can always and then we can always predict, and then we can always predict, and then we can say, oh, no, that didn't happen. but it was quite healthy. >> of course, it could, wasn't it? >> of course it could happen. look, i mean, look at politics. i mean, everybody's in trouble. look, i mean, look at politics. i m don'teverybody's in trouble. look, i mean, look at politics. i m don't knowody's in trouble. look, i mean, look at politics. i m don't know what's| trouble. look, i mean, look at politics. i m don't know what's going le. look, i mean, look at politics. i m don't know what's going to we don't know what's going to happen world is at war. i happen in the world is at war. i wish we had world why wish we had world peace. why can't wish we had world peace. why cant and wish we had world peace. why can't and say, can't somebody stand up and say, world please world peace? please >> planning on, um, >> well, he's planning on, um, on standing a number on on standing a number of candidates across the country and also supporting independent candidates. you worried? >> uh, it makes me worried. it should worried, should make everybody worried, i think. no more if think. but no more so than if you're a labour mp. because if you're a labour mp. because if you a labour with you are a labour mp with a heavy, uh, populated muslim population, they do population, where they do obviously issue gaza obviously feel the issue of gaza and on in and what's going on in palestine, it is palestine, israel, it is something that is front and centre of the minds of those people in those particular communities. shift communities. they may shift their would be their support from what would be traditional heartlands their support from what would be tradtraditional heartlands their support from what would be tradtraditional hea|mpsis their support from what would be trad traditional hea|mps to and traditional labour mps to either independents or other people that george galloway is putting forward. so would be putting forward. so i would be worried if i were them. all i

would say about george galloway is think he's stood is that i think he's he's stood 3 or 4 times now in by elections and been successful, but has never able hold the never been able to hold the seat. would expect in seat. so you would expect in normal times, if ever normal politics resumes any point in politics resumes at any point in the coming months the in the coming months when there's election, you there's a general election, you would seat to would expect that seat to probably go back to labour. but we'll have wait and see. we'll just have to wait and see. >> let's let's talk about >> so let's let's talk about this equality. um uh, story in the telegraph , equality policies the telegraph, equality policies discriminate against men. say half of britain's. this is a global survey that has found that the myth that every man is a villain and all females are invariably virtuous, said one tory mp. do you think that equality policies discriminate against men ? against men? >> um, look, i mean, i you know, i've grown up basically in household. >> i'm surrounded by women. so i can tell you they're not virtuous at all. they are absolutely not, you know, disgrace . disgrace. >> but , but disgrace. >> but, but but maybe we'll see what's about it . what's about it. >> i mean, look, i was always

brought up, though, to, you know, um, hold the door open for, you know, a woman, give up your seat on the bus. you know, your seat on the bus. you know, you things. you're you do things. you're a gentleman. all these gentleman. you do all these things. um, which i think has now as a sort you now been taken as a sort of, you know, with, you know, the rise of sort of feminism and everything. know, are everything. you know, you are quite unsure whether you're quite unsure now whether you're going somebody for going to offend somebody for doing something quite doing something that's quite nice polite whether nice and polite or whether you're just be you're going to. yeah, just be that of, you know, that sort of, you know, gentleman in those traditional way way in which way in which in the way in which that i sort brought up. that i was sort of brought up. so i think, look, there is obviously answer obviously a case to answer because you're seeing whether it's against and it's violence against women and girls. clearly, obviously it's violence against women and girls.that clearly, obviously it's violence against women and girls.that are arly, obviously it's violence against women and girls.that are the. obviously it's violence against women and girls.that are the perpetrators. men that are the perpetrators. and always more often and women are always more often the so of course the victims. um, so of course you have to education in you have to have education in schools course you to schools of course you have to have training place have all of the training place to make sure that there is balance and equality in the job, in workplace, schools, in the workplace, in schools, between women. when between men and women. but when it comes general society and it comes to general society and when comes equality and when it comes to equality and things, it might have things, i think it might have gone, know, with 2024 now, gone, you know, with 2024 now, i think everybody knows that there's sort of esther ghey there's that sort of esther ghey get sorts of hot water get into all sorts of hot water

because i say things love because i say things like love and ifs because i say things like love and it's just what was and pet and it's just what i was brought up see. and that's brought up to see. and that's just to me, that's just. >> yeah, yeah, i, i wouldn't mind you calling me pet. >> yeah, yeah, i, i wouldn't mirwell, calling me pet. >> yeah, yeah, i, i wouldn't mirwell, some1g me pet. >> yeah, yeah, i, i wouldn't mirwell, some people et. >> yeah, yeah, i, i wouldn't mirwell, some people are really >> well, some people are really offended that. offended by that. >> a lot of men today >> and yes, a lot of men today do feel quite uncertain about >> and yes, a lot of men today do fetheyjite uncertain about >> and yes, a lot of men today do fetheyjite actually] about >> and yes, a lot of men today do fetheyjite actually approach how they can actually approach women. if you look women. and actually, if you look at the studies, a lot of men are simply in this simply not dating women in this day age. and that's because day and age. and that's because i think they have a fear of i think they they have a fear of saying and doing the wrong thing. actually gone too thing. have we actually gone too far? other where far? the other way where actually we're creating a generation pussy cats? >> well, i absolutely think not. >> well, i absolutely think not. >> i think that i'm totally pro equality . it's international equality. it's international women's day next week, friday the 8th of march. i'm actually speaking nine next speaking at nine events next week to celebrate women and equality, i think it is time equality, and i think it is time for people to take it seriously. i mean, women have been the kind of weaker sex or not investing in money so many years, and in money for. so many years, and men to be the people taking men seem to be the people taking control . it's like the old ties control. it's like the old ties network. if you look at the boardrooms around the world and in most big ftse 100

boardrooms around the world and in most big ftse100 companies, it's mainly men and we do need more equality because you need people with different drivers that are making decisions. that's maybe why we're having so many wars . if there were more many wars. if there were more women in charge, maybe there wouldn't be so many people killing each other. >> what about, um, jobs , for >> what about, um, jobs, for example, discriminating against men because diversity and men because of diversity and equality quotas? is that not sexist against men? >> well, you're absolutely right. i mean, i think it's a disgrace that the labour party haven't had a single female leader. um, that is a conservative party. i'm sure that's the point. >> you were making. i would make yes. yes off message, but but it's true. but but if you take i mean, you just i mean, taking a slight step back. >> but if you take the political parties, you know, the conservative has had three conservative party has had three female not female prime ministers but not through because they through quotas, but because they were individuals. were talented women individuals. okay got into a bit of okay um, liz got into a bit of trouble and a little bit had had a a sticky time with a bit of a sticky time with brexit, they to the top brexit, but they rose to the top because their talents, because of their talents, because of their talents, because opportunities because of the opportunities

that were there that should be an all the boardroom. an example of all the boardroom. it an example it should be an example to schools. this schools. it shouldn't be this tick boxing you know, tick boxing exercise. you know, people in the jobs . it people should be in the jobs. it should be a meritocracy. yes. people be there on merit people should be there on merit as everybody would as as i think everybody would want, including women they wouldn't be sort of wouldn't want just to be sort of put just because put into position just because they're woman. you do they're a woman. however you do need encourage women to go need to encourage women to go for jobs because women are less forjobs because women are less likely for certain jobs likely to go for certain jobs just because they might not think enough. think they're good enough. >> there needs to be >> so i think there needs to be a there should be a drive. i think there should be targets. i think we if you don't drive towards something, you don't you just don't get there. so if you just leave everything say, oh leave everything and say, oh yeah, meritocracy, yeah, it's meritocracy, there wouldn't changes, right? wouldn't be any changes, right? >> or perfect. thank you very much, charlie. now much, esther and charlie. now there two fantastic people there are two fantastic people who back later on in the who will be back later on in the show, coming up, it is the death of the manual car out with the old and in with the new. >> we'll be sitting down with former racing driver and the original stick from top gear to get to the bottom of what's been happening on the roads. this is saturday morning live on gb news, channel .

>> welcome back. don't forget to keep sending me and emma questions about the topics in the news this week, and we'll chat them through with our panel and guests. >> let's see what you've been saying. so we've got a comment here from says here from andy who says democracy threat democracy is under threat because we have borders like sieve. >> well, you're right, andy, no complaints there. >> i couldn't agree more. um, also from michael, the control of the met should be removed from and over by from the mayor and taken over by the can't cannot or the government. can't cannot or will manage effectively. will not manage effectively. >> and i think that's a very fair point, emma, because as you well that being broadcast well know, that being broadcast on the big ben on the elizabeth tower , the genocidal chant, tower, the genocidal chant, i thought that was a genuine disgrace and actually shames our nafion disgrace and actually shames our nation . yeah. nation. yeah. >> and there's and there's no point in in rishi sunak saying all these nice words if the met

police are not willing to actually enforce the law, they could devolution could have this devolution thing has can't be that has gone mad. it can't be that hard to find person hard now to find the person who's projecting something onto big ben. we've also got an email in who says, in here from simon who says, everyone saying that everyone keeps saying that galloway great speaker . galloway is a great speaker. he's because you speak he's not just because you speak slowly doesn't make you a great speaken slowly doesn't make you a great speaker. if you look like an idiot, sound like idiot, then idiot, sound like an idiot, then you probably are. >> you know, i always thought that president that about president obama. actually. and on it actually. he goes on and on it drones and people say he's a fantastic orator. and i mean, it's a good sort of rhetorical skill because always changes skill because he always changes his intonation. >> keeps people >> it kind of keeps people locked in on those blue eyes. >> absolutely . now, from slow >> absolutely. now, from slow speaking to fast driving, who remembers learning a drive and that moment that you stole at the lights and everyone was stuck behind you blasting their horn ? horn? >> t generation t— >> well, new generation of drivers are deciding to ditch the manual gearbox altogether. darren and i have actually ditched it, even learning to drive. according to the dvsa, the number of tests taken in automatic has increased

automatic vehicles has increased by a whopping 238% over the last ten years. yeah joining us now is the former racing driver and the original stig from top gear, perry mccarthy perry cheers very much for your company. >> now there's a problem here isn't there, in that people are learning the to drive manual. most people i assume , have most people i assume, have learned in a manual car. but now because at the age of electric cars and all the rest of it, when you go into different parts of the world and you're getting behind the wheel, people are thinking, i can't remember how to drive a you know? to drive a shift. you know? >> yeah, but they know that if they pass their test using an automatic, they're allowed automatic, they're not allowed to anyway. they're to drive a shift anyway. they're not allowed to drive a manual car personally car anyway. i don't personally i don't as a problem. don't see it as a problem. i really don't is that if it gets them out there if it makes them out there and if it makes it easier to. funnily enough, the test figures show that more people are failing when they're going test, going for their automatic test, but not but maybe they're just not taking enough lessons. but taking it enough lessons. but i i'm all favour just going i'm all in favour of just going if want drive

if you want to drive an automatic, if you're not absolutely in love the absolutely in love with the process driving, then do process of driving, then do that. problem. that. it's no problem. >> do you think do you think that's the way that things are going? you if you going? because now if you if you were travel to another were to travel to another country happened country and this has happened for for long time, for americans for a long time, they come over here to the uk and they can't hire a car because they mostly drive manual. do manual. what's that going to do to, for example, class? the use of classic cars people are no of classic cars if people are no longer drive them and it longer able to drive them and it becomes more difficult for people instructed using becomes more difficult for peopithe instructed using becomes more difficult for peopithe americansted using becomes more difficult for peopithe americans call using becomes more difficult for peopithe americans call stick ng shift. >> yeah, well, i won't get into the classic car bit, because if we're talking about the young drivers, classic cars tend drivers, the classic cars tend to fairly on how much to be fairly punchy on how much they so they've they cost. so i think they've got enough worries about how much insurance it costs to get get you know, so i get out there, you know, so i wouldn't worry about the classic cars. if they're wealthy cars. i mean, if they're wealthy enough, they go enough, then they can go take more learn how to more lessons to learn how to change but but the auto change gear. but but the auto boxes i think where there's an advantage, you'll hear people screaming. it's taken the joy of driving away and everything else. but there's still a whole bunch to an auto bunch of ways to use an auto box. if you've got flip changes

behind the wheel, you behind the steering wheel, you can balance the can like, you know, balance the car those or you often car using those or you can often there's another option with an auto you shift it auto box where you can shift it over use it more as a manual over and use it more as a manual gearbox. the most important thing somebody's thing for me when somebody's driving young driving is that young driver, middle driver, old driver is middle age driver, old driver is to look that way. you know, that's the most important thing. concentrate on driving . you can concentrate on driving. you can still get a lot out of driving even if you're driving an auto car . you're not just on how you car. you're not just on how you turn in, how you balance the car and that awareness. so that's that's personally how i get loads because i drive an auto most of the time. i drive a mini coopen most of the time. i drive a mini cooper, which has got an automatic gearbox. is it electric? >> no, no, no, it's got seven speed auto. >> no with an electric car you wouldn't even say auto because there's no there's only one gean there's no there's only one gear. the electric motor. spin it and with that torque on it up. and with that torque on demand them. it up. and with that torque on der have them. it up. and with that torque on der have you them. it up. and with that torque on der have you driven hem. it up. and with that torque on der have you driven many of them. >> have you driven many of them. have you tried them? electric cars? yeah. cars? yeah yeah. >> subject for me >> big different subject for me is you know, we've got to is that, you know, we've got to do something obviously about where on, on where we're going on, on emissions, i'm know,

emissions, etc. i'm you know, i'm not always electric i'm not always clear. electric has right path has been the right path personally . personally. >> but many of our viewers, >> but with many of our viewers, i don't trust those lithium batteries they're on via batteries when they're on via they're on fire. they're really on fire. >> but i mean, you >> oh well yeah. but i mean, you know, there's that's different know, there's that's a different thing and thing with the scooters and stuff, and that's, stuff, isn't it. and that's, that's a product of that's really a product of who do you to build the do you trust to build the batteries. i think with most, most manufacturers you expect that through the that they've been through the right testing. right amount of testing. >> fast means they >> but they're fast means they really . really quick. >> electric cars you get in >> the electric cars you get in those those those things, one of those things in tesla, you'd be things in a tesla, you'd be other cars are other electric cars are available. the great things about those , a shaft and about those, like a shaft and they look younger they make you look younger because acceleration it's so because on acceleration it's so quick pulls your face back. quick it pulls your face back. you've lines. it's incredible. >> now do you think actually this is a sign of drivers becoming more safe because of the they're having the fact that they're having a concentrate things concentrate on fewer things behind ? fact that behind the wheel? the fact that we i yeah, it's a good question, actually. >> i don't think that that has maybe been their choice for why they're doing it. what you know, whether it's automatic or or or manual, i mean , there's what we

manual, i mean, there's what we do get with an awful lot of cars is that there's enough opportunities for distraction on the screen or from mobile phones or stuff like that. so you know, if they can just learn to actually drive and then worry about the gearbox. >> is it a shame, though, that it's like a lost skill because i think, i mean, darren and i can't drive, but if i were to learn to drive, i would only want to learn to drive manual. >> yeah, i, i lost skill. i mean, i remember and believe me, i'm not infallible. you know, it's doing wrong it's like doing the wrong gear shift it's , you know, i did shift and it's, you know, i did it recently and that's why i can't drive. >> yeah, i mean, you do it, >> yeah, i mean, if you do it, then we're all seriously, i was i was like, you know, in our other car, i'm going along and i went like that. >> wife looked at me and >> and my wife looked at me and went, oh, that was nice. you know, expert perry, we've had an email edwina, and edwina know, expert perry, we've had an eméwritten edwina, and edwina know, expert perry, we've had an eméwritten inwina, and edwina know, expert perry, we've had an eméwritten in good and edwina know, expert perry, we've had an eméwritten in good morning,na has written in good morning, edwina. no, no, no, you >> she says, no, no, no, you must drive manual. she says, it's nearly 77. it's fabulous. i'm nearly 77. and i did my first at 60. and i did my first race at 60. i also jeremy clarkson at also overtook jeremy clarkson at rockingham in a top gear feature

manual . all the way. manual. all the way. >> i hear that, said, i know she's quick. edwina. yeah really quick. >> you know her. you remember her? i'm sure she is, though. i wouldn't like to be behind the wheel with edwina. >> i think that's great. hello, edwina. >> i think that's fantastic. >> i think that's fantastic. >> absolutely. it's but that's. >> absolutely. it's but that's. >> it's kind of. i don't see it as massively divisive, but it's great to hear somebody loves to use the gearshift. you know, there are some things, honest to god. you see, i'm getting my feet ready already. but you know, i can. yeah. for me, probably many other people , you probably many other people, you can feel the car a little bit better. there are some advantages with having a clutch. so you can feel it. and you also feel a little bit more in control of the car. so that's the love of driving . but the the love of driving. but the gearbox is now , you know, we've gearbox is now, you know, we've been talking about this 15 years ago.the been talking about this 15 years ago. the old automatic gearboxes you'd pull away. and being yeah you'd pull away. and being yeah you know, so performance wise or getting that joy of driving is a blooming disaster. but now i

mean even the mini i've got has got seven speeds in it. so it's like well are and you're just going it's you know, it takes me back to being a race driver. my even when i retired, my last cars were semi—automatic. so flip change. so it's like bah bah bam. so it's really quick. this is technology . it's bah bam. so it's really quick. this is technology. it's just getting better and better . getting better and better. >> i am, i am, you know, ithink >> i am, i am, you know, i think i better get my, uh, bottom in gear and get behind the wheel of a car. i think my dad's going to lose his mind over the fact that we've got. >> well, indeed, indeed, i'm sure divided opinion. sure you've divided opinion. >> mine. there'll be lots of people are split. either people who are split. either way, a generational way, it might be a generational thing. knows? thing. who knows? >> just thing. >> but just one thing. >> but just one thing. >> there anybody who wants to >> is there anybody who wants to drive a manual? go drive a manual? yeah. if they want to drive an auto, go drive an auto. it's not the it's not the end of the world. >> harry. cheers very much. >> harry. cheers very much. >> if you learn how to drive manual. >> definitely. thank you. >> definitely. thank you. >> we've got lots more to come, including all of the best

presents for mother's day. um, so that's plenty warning. so that's plenty of warning. meaning no meaning i have absolutely no excuse this year. >> and where dreams go to die, we'll be sitting down with two of the actors from the experience. willy wonka and an oompa loompa . you won't want to oompa loompa. you won't want to miss that. that's at 1145. this is saturday morning live on gb news, britain's news channel .

>> welcome back. don't forget to keep sending darren and i your questions about the topics on the news this week. and we'll chat through them with our panel and guests. indeed. >> let's have a look at what you've been seeing. barbara's written in and barbara good morning she says rishi morning barbara. she says rishi is have lost our is right. we have lost our democracy. and margaret says on the perry conversation with about a manual and automatic, she says, i've always driven a

manual and there are so many cases of older people putting their foot on the wrong pedal and causing accidents. i never want to drive an automatic, not just older people. yeah, i imagine if got behind the imagine if i got behind the wheel a car driving wheel of a car driving instructor. exactly. it'll a instructor. exactly. it'll be a hard the safety of roads hard day for the safety of roads . now, moira says, when are we going to have an international man's day? do you think we need one? emma >> like having >> i don't like having international anything days, but i think there is an international men's day. >> actually well, there's >> but actually, well, there's going international going to be an international women's day then. going to be an international woryes.s day then. >> yes. >> yes. >> is it an international women's month now as well, i women's month now as well, or. i don't long it goes on don't know how long it goes on for these days. international men's day is in november. i'm being reliably informed by my very clever producer and russell says the general public only seem to get police protection after politicians get protected. now, emma, i thought that was interesting because i said this on, uh, x or twitter, whatever you call it. and i said, look, i think it's a damn disgrace that we're talking about the protection of politicians whilst they let illegal migration run

rampant . rampant. >> yeah, i know, i mean, if you were living on the kent coast, you wouldn't be exactly feeling well, exactly safe. >> you've got a woman who >> when you've got a woman who had home broken into and all had a home broken into and all the rest it. i think somebody the rest of it. i think somebody demanded drive them demanded that she drive them away. even. yeah, yeah, away. kent even. yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. yeah. they're all coming up newcastle. you're coming up to newcastle. you're all and on all very welcome. um, and on george galloway. nigel's written in and nigel says, i think george galloway will be a short time mp as my granddad used to quote today's news. but tomorrow's chip from the days when chips in when they wrapped chips in newspapers . it's a very good newspapers. it's a very good point, but i do think actually george galloway represents a change in the political environment, a change in a more, i think, a politics based on religious sectarianism . yeah, religious sectarianism. yeah, completely. and that's deeply troubling when you look at the so even when rishi sunak is giving this speech and talking about how democracy is in threat, there was still a heckler yelling at him throughout the whole speech. >> that there's >> and i think that there's something sort of like something so sort of like comically the terrible comically sums up the terrible situation that we found

ourselves in. >> it is terrible. but, uh , you >> it is terrible. but, uh, you know, we here at gb news, we'll be keeping you all up to date with the nightmare as it unfolds , i guess. >> can't wait. shopian nightmare . a onto better . so there is a onto better news. there is a big day looming next weekend as we celebrate our wonderful mothers. a day dedicated to motherhood , dedicated to motherhood, maternal bonds and the influence of mothers in society. >> indeed , a very important day >> indeed, a very important day for all the moms or mums out there. but what's the best way of saying cheers for everything? and you make sure you and how can you make sure you don't to the last don't leave it to the last minute ? mothers everywhere minute? mothers everywhere are going grateful for this going to be grateful for this reminder we've got for you. >> so joining us is >> so joining us now is freelance celebrity interviewer lifestyle and beauty editor suzanne baume . thank you for suzanne baume. thank you for joining us, suzanne. >> thank for me. >> thank you for having me. >> thank you for having me. >> suzanne. what have you got for this looks marvellous. for us? this looks marvellous. >> lots s i think we need to start by saying, i'm so glad start off by saying, i'm so glad we're this this week and we're doing this this week and not because have not next, because had we have done week, there would done it next week, there would have every excuse not to have been every excuse not to get the woman in your life a

gift. >> at least today. um, your viewers have got eight days. >> excuses, excuses. >> n0 excuses, no excuses. >> no excuses, no excuses. >> to just orders on >> i'm going to just orders on amazon. >> well, saturday. >> well, saturday. >> exactly. just going >> well, saturday. >> run. exactly. just going >> well, saturday. >>run. runlactly. just going >> well, saturday. >>run. run through just going >> well, saturday. >>run. run through ajust going >> well, saturday. >>run. run through a few going >> well, saturday. >>run. run through a few ofing >> well, saturday. >>run. run through a few of my to run. run through a few of my favourite, um, gifts. slightly original. you know, you're favourite, um, gifts. slightly origgoing you know, you're favourite, um, gifts. slightly origgoing to you know, you're favourite, um, gifts. slightly origgoing to be>u know, you're favourite, um, gifts. slightly origgoing to be running you're favourite, um, gifts. slightly origgoing to be running offj're favourite, um, gifts. slightly origgoing to be running off toe not going to be running off to the, gas station to get the, um, gas station to get flowers chocolates. got flowers or chocolates. i've got some nice bits . um, and i some really nice bits. um, and i want by what i'm want to start off by what i'm wearing here. uh can see wearing here. uh if you can see it, this is for mothers everywhere. this i'm a big supporter of independent brands . supporter of independent brands. this personal and it's this is from personal and it's all about feel good clothing . so all about feel good clothing. so it's bright messages , bright it's bright messages, bright material, bright lettering . this material, bright lettering. this is £40. and i think british brand is it. it's a british brand. it's called personal. and i think every mother should be wearing this. look. you can see it on the camera. i love it, mother. um, super mother. um, and then obviously perfume and perfume is big. beauty is big. i've chosen favourite brand i've chosen my favourite brand because there's just so much to choose. um, from juliette has a gun. oh, yeah. it's a very strange name. >> has a gun. >> has a gun. >> but if you smell this

fragrance, she certainly doesn't. they do lawn laundry detergents. they do perfume. i'm wearing the perfume now. this is stunning . what does it mean? stunning. what does it mean? >> not a shower gel. what is it? >> not a shower gel. what is it? >> well, that's the branding. i think. and the smell is fresh. it's and it stays on your body. so it's not one of those ones. um, that's going to go and it's £22. 50. i think this this um, that's going to go and it's £22.50. i think this this is lovely. and i like the packaging too. >> i am dying to know what the mallet is. >> okay, so the mallet, normally ihave >> okay, so the mallet, normally i have a microphone. so the mallet is comes this . now mallet is comes with this. now obviously there's loads and loads of chocolates you can buy for your mother. this this is from a brand called sweet treats that you can buy online. this for example is £45. it's a large pink smash heart. so as the message says, i don't know if i'm going to make a mess here so you can break your mother's heart, or you can smash your opening in that they're they love you, mum. >> i always struggle because i have to look for cards that say ma'am, and i stuck. >> okay, so if we >> ma'am, ma'am. okay, so if we see mean, look, i won't

see here, i mean, look, i won't smash it because it will cause a terrible mess. >> but if i did smash it, all the chocolates fly out. so after this i'm going put this segment, i'm going to put it and can eat it it there and we can eat it together. so this is going to be giving mum high hopes. giving my mum high hopes. >> it is £45. >> yes, it is £45. >>— >> yes, it is £45. >> i love it. um, right. so going on to another independent brand, think it's really brand, um, i think it's really important support independent important to support independent brands. needs a good brands. every woman needs a good makeup might not makeup brush. um, you might not understand , but. well, you will understand, but. well, you will understand. but makeup brushes understand, but. well, you will und�*be:and. but makeup brushes understand, but. well, you will und�*be very but makeup brushes understand, but. well, you will und�*be very expensiver brushes understand, but. well, you will und�*be very expensive and'ushes understand, but. well, you will und�*be very expensive and cannot can be very expensive and cannot do what they say. danny levi said you get eight pieces, eight brushes in here, and it's basically every single brush you need to create the look . this is need to create the look. this is £45 and these are proper, proper , um, good brushes . normally you , um, good brushes. normally you could spend £25 or more on brush. yeah. so need to give this a shout out because this is a lovely brand. um, and talking about makeup, i think perhaps we need to go on to this now , i've need to go on to this now, i've seen this because instagram advertising have done a good job in pushing that particular brand

i >> -- >> really, the algorithm clearly recognises me . recognises me. >> yes, i have to say it's brilliant. i mean, i could put it on and you could see like how well our makeup was doing today, isn't it? this is beauty fact. um, they specialise in, um, product acas, makeup products, makeup bags , mirrors. this is makeup bags, mirrors. this is brilliant. this is if you want to do your makeup, you have three different settings . um, three different settings. um, day night, probably studio lighting as well. and it gives you a really good close up. now what expecting during what are you expecting during a cost of living crisis? >> are you expecting sales retail sales to lower ? retail sales to be lower? >> so yes, lots of places are slashing prices and it will probably start from next week. this is expensive . so this is if this is expensive. so this is if you really want to spend money. and i think it's worth the money. it is expensive. this is £150. but but it's for me the best mirror i've got. i mean you know it's got the lighting, everything. um it is. >> how is it powered ? >> how is it powered? >> how is it powered? >> is that battery that's battery powered? but i've had it. i mean, it's lasted for a long time. um, should we talk

about absolutely about slippers? absolutely >> why not? >> why not? >> i mean, mother's day slippers. they of go hand slippers. they kind of go hand in are favourite in hand. these are my favourite slippers. hold them up slippers. shall i hold them up to camera? these fitflop to the camera? these are fitflop . um. and what i like about these is they firstly , they're these is they firstly, they're basically really cool sliders. so if you want to be cool around the house, you wear them. but they also have the element of they also have the element of they lift your foot so they you wear those. >> i would you admit i wouldn't, you wouldn't. >> are actually pinker >> so they are actually pinker than they look on the screen i think because of the, the lighting. i been wearing lighting. so i have been wearing these because i have sore fur. these because i have a sore fur. >> i have a plant facetious, which means i can't put my foot >> i have a plant facetious, whicithese1s i can't put my foot >> i have a plant facetious, whicithese are can't put my foot >> i have a plant facetious, whicithese are amazing my foot >> i have a plant facetious, whicithese are amazing .ny foot >> i have a plant facetious, whicithese are amazing . and»ot flat. these are amazing. and that's because you've got the flip and you wear them. flip flop and you wear them. >> darren, i wouldn't actually know you wouldn't. >> them in lots of >> they do them in lots of different colours. wow. um, anyway, different colours. wow. um, anyyes. think mother might >> yes. i think my mother might after a hard day at work. yeah. i think they're really nice just to home your shoes to get home and take your shoes off put them in jewellery. off and put them in jewellery. >> we need to talk about jewellery. actually, i'm wearing, wearing. this wearing, um. i'm wearing. this is andre, actually. so

is princess andre, actually. so this one she's got this is one of. she's got a jewellery collection out that's got some really cute little pieces in very, delicate. pieces in very, very delicate. >> delicate . >> very delicate. >> very delicate. >> peter's daughter, of course. >> peter's daughter, of course. >> peter's daughter has a tiny little um, and again, not little heart. um, and again, not expensive. comes £54. expensive. this comes in at £54. so so. and it's silver. so i think if you want to give your mum it's a heart. it's a little heart if you want to. it's from luxe jewellery. if you want to give your mum a gift that tells you you her, i think this you you love her, i think this is cute. um, and is really cute. um, and journaling very briefly , we'll journaling very briefly, we'll do journaling. journaling briefly journaling. love journaling. as a journalist , journaling. as a journalist, journaling. as a journalist, journaling is my therapy. >> i find it important. >> i find it important. >> i find it important. um, >> i find it important. um, and also in this sort of whole wellbeing buzzword and everything, you know, to write down thoughts. this is down your thoughts. this is lovely mum. write your lovely for mum. write your shopping mental shopping list for your mental health it's so good for health as well. it's so good for your mental and these your mental health and these books, overcoming books, um, overcoming overwhelming books, um, overcoming overwhejournal are fabulous. burnout journal are fabulous. >> suzanne, i'm sure you've helped many out there. >> thank you very much. >> thank you very much. >> a pleasure. >> it's such a pleasure. >> it's such a pleasure. >> absolute pleasure . >> absolute pleasure. >> absolute pleasure. >> you for having me. >> thank you for having me.

>> thank you for having me. >> be getting your >> what will you be getting your mum mother's day? mum for? mother's day? >> i'm not going to say on national television, because she will watching this, will indeed be watching this, but just she sent but let's just say she has sent over items over some very expensive items of and i think that's of clothing. and i think that's a passive aggressive hint. >> mum always gets >> well, my mum always gets daffodils, not to daffodils, so i'm not going to be if be disappointing her if i breaking secret there. so breaking the secret there. so thank very suzanne. thank you very much. suzanne. uh, coming crime is on uh, coming up. knife crime is on the rise with just under 50,000 offences in 2023. what is going on? this is saturday morning live on gb news, britain's news channel

welcome back to saturday morning live. knife crime is on the rise in britain in the year ending september 2023, it increased to just under 50,000 offences. that's 5% higher compared to the year before in south yorkshire. >> ministry of justice data showed that two thirds of

cautions or convictions for knife crime in the area were handed to first time offenders. our yorkshire reporter anna riley has been to a charity run eventin riley has been to a charity run event in sheffield involving young people to get knives off the streets , giving a helping the streets, giving a helping hand to stop young people from carrying knives. >> anthony allison founded charity always an alternative. after growing up surrounded by knife crime in sheffield. he wants to get knives off the streets of the steel city and lodge an awareness event at showroom cinema . showroom cinema. >> when i was 15, i saw someone get murdered. they got stabbed to death. fortunately uh , but to death. fortunately uh, but what was strange, it didn't really affect me because i was around that kind of stuff all the time. growing up, violence was normal. every day i'm looking over my shoulder every day. you know, someone's getting locked someone's getting locked up or someone's getting injured . surely life can't just injured. surely life can't just be that. i had a few lucky escapes myself and i thought i've actually had enough. i work

more than this. this can't continue happen. i've got continue to happen. i've got kids . i want to not be kids now. i don't want to not be there for them. made that there for them. so i made that decision . decision. >> keaton naylor is perienced the pain of losing a loved one to knife crime. his best friend, louis phillips, was stabbed to death at the age of 15 by a stranger during an unprovoked attack in south yorkshire . attack in south yorkshire. >> ever since i lost my best friend, it's made me realise, well , knifes really friend, it's made me realise, well, knifes really aren't needed like there's so much more to life than carrying a knife. well, just a weapon in general. they were training for barnsley football club , it were doing football club, it were doing well, getting grades and that it just applied for college . so it just applied for college. so it really wasn't a bad lad. >> tackling knife crime to prevent further tragedies is a priority for south yorkshire police. >> the police are obviously doing a lot in terms of trying to identify low kate and target

those individuals or gangs that are prone to violence and use guns and knives. so there's a lot of work around that. but that prevention is really key. the more important thing, how do we stop young people back at showroom cinema, students from a sheffield high school produced a short film to highlight knife crime amongst teenagers. >> it was really educational and you really you don't understand how bad knife crime is until like, you're being told the figure, you know, something like this could happen to me, could happen to anyone. >> there is concern and it is something that you know, that i don't want to happen with recent figures showing 17% of knife crime offenders in england and wales were under 18, it's hoped schemes like this will deter children from carrying weapons. >> anna riley gb news now we've

just had a reminder via email emma, that actually this is happening outside of london as well as elsewhere, and that package really does highlight that knife crime is becoming a nationwide issue . nationwide issue. >> and we've got to ask the question, why are so many kids feeling as though they absolutely have to go out onto the streets with a knife? >> and it's one of those things, isn't it, that proliferates because if you have, you know, some are carrying knives. some people are carrying knives. people that people then start feeling that they to carry knives for they need to carry knives for their self—protection or their own self—protection or self—defence . know that self—defence. and i know that i don't feel safe in and around london or in some other parts of the country, particularly in cities, you see these cities, because you see these videos social videos all the time on social media of people wielding machetes in, you know, outside of pubs and, and every, every couple of days there seems to be a new video. >> but you know what? the question that i was asking only the other day was why on earth are we selling machetes in this country? on were we country? why on earth were we ever zombie ever selling those zombie knives? big things? ever selling those zombie kni'they're big things? ever selling those zombie kni'they're not)ig things? ever selling those zombie kni'they're not gettingjs? ever selling those zombie kni'they're not getting them from >> they're not getting them from the supermarket. >> well, no, indeed not.

>> well, no, indeed not. >> you know, >> but even online, you know, i don't you should be able don't think you should be able to those kinds of to procure those kinds of weapons of brutality. yeah, weapons of. of brutality. yeah, in this market, often the argument that very argument is that it's very difficult ban possession difficult to ban the possession of knives in a blanket way because you can't, you know, charge someone for carrying a butter or might be butter knife, or they might be going or something, going on a picnic or something, but going on a picnic but nobody's going on a picnic with knife. with a zombie knife. >> yeah. they're using >> yeah. they're not using a machete carve their chicken. machete to carve their chicken. no, not anyone no, they're not that anyone takes a roast chicken on a picnic. but you see, my point? >> i do indeed, but, i mean, i'm wondering, how do we actually convince that they are convince young men that they are their are worth than their lives are worth more than being banged for sticking a being banged up for sticking a blade into someone's an. >> think >> it's gruesome. i think education goes a long way, but it is. it is a case of social entropy, isn't it, that you you know, these spiral know, these things do spiral upwards. you to try and upwards. you need to try and somehow the trend. somehow change the trend. >> right, folks, got >> all right, folks, we've got loads more up, including loads more coming up, including our section , more the our showbiz section, more of the top actors top stories and the actors involved in willy wonka involved in that willy wonka experience. go away . experience. don't go away. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boiler sponsors of

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grimes alongside emma webb, and we're standing in for ellie and pete this morning. on saturday morning live. >> great to have your company this morning. and do we have an action packed show for you ? we action packed show for you? we have all of the day's top stories with our panel. the fallout from the rochdale by—election rishi speech by—election and rishi speech last night is democracy under threat? all of that and more with the former special adviser to michael gove. charlie rowley and forecast to esther stanhope and forecast to esther stanhope and all of the latest from the world of showbiz. >> what's going to happen at the brits? a lifetime achievement award for an australian pop star. sorry peter andre, i know you're watching at home. it's not you, it's the wonderful kylie minogue and rightly so. >> and we'll be catching up on all the latest from the royal household. prince william is back at work after taking a surprise absence from his godfather's memorial service. and what's next for prince harry? after losing his high court challenge against the government over a decision to downgrade his level of personal

security . security. >> now, many are asking where is the princess of wales? and many of you are emailing in to say none of your business. we'll be getting to the bottom of that, though later on. and don't forget, we want to hear from you. email us gbviews@gbnews.com >> but before we do anything else , sam francis has all your else, sam francis has all your news headlines . news headlines. >> darren. emma, thank you very much and good morning from the gb news room. it'sjust much and good morning from the gb news room. it's just gone 11:00 and the top story this morning. more pro—palestine protest are planned over the weekend following rishi sunak's warning last night that islamist extremists and far right groups are, he says, spreading poison and trying to tear us apart. in that speech, delivered from downing street, he called for the nation to unite, highlighting the rise in extremist disruption,

intimidation , threats and intimidation, threats and planned acts of violence. it followed george galloway's controversial win in the rochdale by—election this week , rochdale by—election this week, which the prime minister described as beyond alarming. >> the rochdale by—election returned a candidate who dismissed the horror of what happened on october 7, who glorifies hezbollah and has endorsed by nick griffin the racist former leader of the bnp . racist former leader of the bnp. ineed racist former leader of the bnp. i need to speak to you all this evening because this situation has gone on long enough and demands a response not just from government, but from all of us. >> well, opposition parties have given mixed reactions to that speech by the prime minister yesterday , with the liberal yesterday, with the liberal democrats accusing him of, they say, sowing seeds of divisions. however, labour leader sir keir starmer said rishi sunak is right to call for the country to unite and to condemn what he called an acceptable and intimidating behaviour. meanwhile, the new mp for

rochdale, george galloway, who's also a former presenter for the iranian state tv, says the prime minister is playing a very dangerous game that could drive young muslims into extremism . young muslims into extremism. >> it's worse than a lie. it's dangerous because you see, if you're saying to muslims who vote that your vote will be delegitimized, if you cast it the wrong way , and if you go out the wrong way, and if you go out on a demonstration peacefully to demonstrate their own, you'll be called a terrorist . and new called a terrorist. and new laws, new police approaches will be conjured forth against you. if you do that, you are driving people away from the path of democracy and peaceful democratic protest . democratic protest. >> organisers of this weekend's protests have now responded to the prime minister's pledge to back stronger police action in suggesting he expels some senior mps from the conservative party. it's after rishi sunak pledged

last night to support the robust policing of demonstrations, particularly pro—palestinian marches . the metropolitan police marches. the metropolitan police has in the past said that showing support for a terror group is a criminal offence, adding that in a statement the right to protest comes with a responsibility to act lawfully. several local marches are planned today and tomorrow before another national demonstration in the capital on the 9th of march. to the us now, where president biden says he hopes to see a ceasefire agreement between israel and hamas before the start of ramadan on the 10th of march. it comes as the us announced plans for a military airdrop of food and supplies into the region to tackle the growing humanitarian crisis there. and that comes as the united nations has warned that around 25% of gaza's population , more than half a population, more than half a million people, are on the brink , they say, of famine . back here , they say, of famine. back here in the uk, a manhunt is now underway after three people were

injured in a shooting in an area of london popular with bars and restaurants. the shots were fired by assailants on a moped last night as they were being pursued by police in clapham in south london. that was at around 5:00. two people suffered shotgun pellet injuries as they were drinking at a nearby pub, and we understand a third person was injured by the moped itself, though none of those injuries are life threatening. police say that they are now trying to trace the moped and the suspects after they fled the scene . in after they fled the scene. in and finally the retirement of 30 typhoon jets that were used to protect british skies from potential attacks has been likened to scrapping spitfires. before the battle of britain, raf bosses are grounding a fleet of typhoons in an effort to save a reported £300 million. that's despite only completing 40% of their predicted flying hours dunng their predicted flying hours during their lifespan. it comes as defence secretary grant shapps urges the chancellor to increase military spending to

2.5% of gdp, something, though, that jeremy hunt says won't be in his budget next week. military historian and defence analyst chris newton told gb news this morning that the jets should be kept in service. >> it does send the wrong message and with regards to russia and our willingness, if we can't spend this money on on an operational reserve, it doesn't send a good message to, to russia and, and about our resolve and our willingness to deter major conflict . deter major conflict. >> those are the headlines . for >> those are the headlines. for more, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen. or, of course, go to our website, gbnews.com forward slash alerts . forward slash alerts. >> welcome to saturday morning live . the time is now. 1106 now live. the time is now. 1106 now i want to ask you, do you recognise these fellas?

looks a bit like the gb news christmas party, but 850 ticketholders thought they were signing up to see these oompa loompas when they bought £35 golden tickets to willy's chocolate experience in glasgow , chocolate experience in glasgow, though in reality it was more like a first class ticket to hell or a sun. >> pundits called it where dreams go to die. we'll be sitting down with two of the actors from the experience, willy wonka and the oompa loompa . you won't want to miss it. that's all. at 1145. now >> now, of course, prime minister rishi sunak has claimed that democracy is under threat . that democracy is under threat. that was last night from extremism in the wake of hamas's october seventh attack on israel in his speech to the nation, he also said there are forces here at home who are trying to tear us apart.

>> let's take a listen. >> let's take a listen. >> i fear that our great achievement in building the world's most successful multi ethnic, multi—faith democracy is being deliberately undermine . being deliberately undermine. and there are forces here at home trying to tear us apart on too many occasions. recently our streets have been hijacked by small groups who are hostile to our values and have no respect for our democratic traditions, threats of violence and intimidation are alien to our way of doing things. they must be resisted at all times . be resisted at all times. >> now we're delighted to be joined by former special adviser to michael gove, charlie rowley and the broadcaster ss sanho . and the broadcaster ss sanho. charlie, are you partial to a bit of willy wonka? hahaha it depends what day of the week it is, i suppose. >> i mean, look, i think it was a fantastic story. i wondered where i thought i hadn't seen you for a while. yes yes. >> um .

>> um. >> um. >> what an extraordinary thing to happen to those poor people that sort of paid 35. >> some people drove three hours to get there. >> yes, yes, also £30 per person, apparently. >> that 35, £35 a person, >> so that 35, £35 a person, which is including for the children, presumably. so some people over people would have spent over £100 get get into the £100 just to get get into the event. >> $- e'- event. >> had the only all the >> and i had the only all the kids given just one jelly kids were given just one jelly bean something that. bean or something like that. >> lemonade. >> one glass of lemonade. >> one glass of lemonade. >> no chocolate, no chocolate whatsoever. >> chocolate was in the title. yes, it's extraordinary . yes, it's extraordinary. >> um, false advertising on this story that we saw in the headunes story that we saw in the headlines there on the state of the raf . the raf. >> emma, i'm worried about this, and i don't know what the panel think about it, because we get this constant slew of stories now, someone in the mod's now, either someone in the mod's doing a fantastic pr job or we're in really dire straits. we can't man the specific parts of the royal navy. we're having to roll people back, get them out . roll people back, get them out. and now, of course, we're seeing that these jets have been cancelled . is britain actually cancelled. is britain actually able to defend itself ?

able to defend itself? >> well, that'll be the key question. and i think look, all eyes on the chancellor on the 6th of march just next week to see what support there might be for in terms of the for the mod in terms of the budget that he announced. you remember former defence remember the former defence secretary, was secretary, ben wallace, was always more always able to lobby for more money spending and money for defence spending and to protect the armed services. so we'll just have to see if there is any in that there is any money in that budget. but you're right. you know, we're hearing know, we're we're hearing things about, you know, our nuclear missiles sort failed testing missiles sort of failed testing going a bit awry. you know, we're obviously giving more jets to ukraine. um, have to make to ukraine. um, we have to make sure that our intelligence and our right across our capabilities right across all of those three fronts, horrendous recruitment problems as well. >> so just saw there it >> so we just saw there it compared to, um, downing our fleet during the just before the battle britain. do you think battle of britain. do you think that this is you know, you see this and you think this is just astonishing. this is it is so plainly a terrible idea. is it naivety or are they are they just simply not alert to it, or do you think they should be raising defence spending ? and

raising defence spending? and that's something that's just plainly obvious . yes. plainly obvious. yes. >> well, it's funny that you said they're not. they're not manned or women. indeed. because we about the that the we talked about the that the story earlier about men and women and equality, you men women and equality, you know men and women are in the armed forces. think i think we forces. i think they i think we should really celebrate it that it you know, is a really it is, you know, it is a really good career path. my father in law was actually the captain of a nuclear submarine, and i feel that we used to be very proud of our, you know , it was we had our, you know, it was we had some kind of we were proud of our of the army. we were proud of people who, um, who were trained to fly planes and things like that , like what's going on? like that, like what's going on? why aren't there enough ? why aren't there enough? >> well, hang on, i'm going to throw a among the pigeons throw a cat among the pigeons here, it's here, because surely it's actually on with actually the focus on with a laser like focus on diversity and inclusion . that's been a and inclusion. that's been a problem for the armed forces making making men, and making and making men, and particularly white men, feel that they're not welcome. that they're simply not welcome. >> that's has >> and of course, that's has historically bulk of historically been the bulk of the of the recruitment into the armed forces. and then the

message this diversity, um , all message this diversity, um, all these diversity stories and diversity policy send surely, is that you're not welcome here. we don't want you. yes >> and i think there was a case against the raf who sort of were found with internal found wanting with an internal report trying to, you report just for trying to, you know, do this tick boxing exercise, as it were. but i think we need to make sure that anybody that up to the anybody that signs up to the armed that are are armed forces that are they are the britain's best, whether you're woman, if you you're a man or woman, if you want sign obviously you want to sign up, obviously you can serve, but you are promoted to whatever just through to whatever rank just through sheer merit, to sheer hard work and merit, to make ultimately make sure that ultimately you can not just uk can be keeping not just uk citizens safe at home, but if you're deployed overseas that you're deployed overseas that you're international you're keeping the international community safe in the best way that you can. >> i've to say it is a very >> i've got to say it is a very different structure now with technology. spoken technology. i mean, i've spoken at at the at quite a few events at the mod. there are much more women in in more technological roles in in more technological roles in and you can do a in the army. and you can do a lot of damage without flying a plane these days, because there's technology there's a lot of technology involved it's a different involved now. it's a different kind structure, isn't it? kind of structure, isn't it? >> quickly, on on rishi's >> very quickly, on on rishi's speech in relation this story

speech in relation to this story , the underpinning of what he was saying in that speech , even was saying in that speech, even if he's praising multiculturalism or he's praising the success of britain's multicultural society, which is obviously arguable , all which is obviously arguable, all it is , it is the underpinning of it is, it is the underpinning of that, that social sort of tearing of the social fabric and social fragmentation . does that social fragmentation. does that have something to do with the problem in the armed forces in this crisis? because, like you were saying, people just don't really feel that sense of patriotic. they don't feel comfortable with that sense of patriotism that is what patriotism that actually is what compels want to defend compels people to want to defend their country . their country. >> i think there's two things. i think there's a sense of entitlement, and i think there's a of rebellion. and a sense of rebellion. and i think that you sort of think the more that you sort of hear the armed forces or hear about the armed forces or the police withdrawing, that allows these and allows these, these mobs and these know, people to scale these, you know, people to scale these, you know, people to scale the minister's where the prime minister's home where people it's okay to chain people think it's okay to chain themselves themselves themselves and glue themselves to streets to block to the streets to block ambulances and emergency service vehicles a crime or so vehicles attending a crime or so you know, we have a culture now

where think that , well, where people think that, well, i'm and i've got free i'm protesting and i've got free speech. i say just what speech. so i can say just what on earth i want. and i can do whatever the hell i think is right protest outside an right and protest outside an mps home use intimidation home and use intimidation tactics. that tactics. that is something that has entered british society, tactics. that is something that has eris red british society, tactics. that is something that has eris red [fundamentally which is just fundamentally wrong, to take wrong, which we need to take back control of. if i can use that phrase. and that's why rishi sunak have taken that and ran how rich have keir starmer to >> how rich have keir starmer to stand there saying, take back control? wanted to sell us control? he wanted to sell us off barnier? off to michel barnier? >> like what stephen >> well, i like what stephen pound said earlier about, you know, policing, know, police should be policing, not facilitating . i mean, i want not facilitating. i mean, i want to feel on the streets. i'm to feel safe on the streets. i'm a londoner. i've lived in every part of london. >> me on neatly to what's >> leads me on neatly to what's going yes, going on in clapham. yes, charlie, you've been spotted once certain parts once or twice in certain parts of clapham now clarm notting hill, which klom do you either of you feel safe in london? >> well, i just on the clapham stuff. i mean, i feel, um, terrified because what people haven't linked the two is that this bellevue pub is, you know, a nice pub at the one end of

clapham high street, but at the other end you had a pub called the two brewers where there was a stabbing. so long ago. a stabbing. not so long ago. outside. and we've outside. yes. and we've obviously the sarah everard obviously seen the sarah everard case, years ago. case, obviously a few years ago. so, clapham actually so, um, clapham is actually a very, very nice place. >> it's clarm darling. clarm sorry. >> it is, it is renamed. >> it is, it is renamed. >> but but all of these incidents are now mounting up >> but but all of these inci(itnts are now mounting up >> but but all of these inci(it is. are now mounting up >> but but all of these inci(it is becomingnounting up >> but but all of these inci(it is becoming terrifying jp >> but but all of these inci(it is becoming terrifying if and it is becoming terrifying if you live in that particular part of. >> do you feel safe, esther? >> do you feel safe, esther? >> well, you know, i yeah. >> well, you know, i yeah. >> i don't, i've got an >> i don't, because i've got an 18 year old daughter. >> so we have a rule where she has to get an uber and then she has to get an uber and then she has to get an uber and then she has to text from the from the car. there are other taxi car. so are there are other taxi services available. you services available. but you know, we a rule never on know, we have a rule never be on your own. be in an unlit your own. never be in an unlit street in in street i live in in spitalfields, near shoreditch, so it's always lit and there's spitalfields, near shoreditch, so it's a security. and there's spitalfields, near shoreditch, so it's asecurity. ind there's spitalfields, near shoreditch, so it's asecurity. i do there's spitalfields, near shoreditch, so it's asecurity. i do feele's 24 hour security. i do feel safe. i also have taught my kids and my son's a teenager as well, to be, you know, you've just got to be, you know, you've just got to have your wits about you really. streetwise, really. if you're streetwise, you something's not you can tell if something's not quite quickly. if quite right very quickly. if you're headphones or you're on your headphones or looking at your phone, that is thatis

looking at your phone, that is that is you're kind of drawing attention yourself by not attention to yourself by not being but can being being vigilant. but can i just gun? just add, though, that gun? wasn't pellet it was wasn't it a pellet gun? it was a pellet gun, wasn't it one pellet gun, wasn't it the one the shooting. >> i bet it said they had >> oh, i bet it said they had pellet wounds a shotgun. yeah. >> not pellet? just a >> was it not pellet? just a pellet gun. >> not that. no. >> not that. no. >> people are in >> well, three people are in hospital, must been hospital, so it must have been it. well maybe. >> actually not. >> yes, actually maybe not. >> yes, actually maybe not. >> like. oh shotgun pellet injuries. yeah mean injuries. yeah. yeah yeah i mean that's not, that doesn't mean it's not important. not hunky dory. >> happy days apparently was shot from a moped. yeah. so i mean, like something from a mean, it's like something from a gangster film. >> wild west. >> well, it is a wild west. i think a bunch of idiots think it's a bunch of idiots mucking about, rants on and on about braverman language mucking about, rants on and on ab rishi braverman language mucking about, rants on and on ab rishi blanguage..anguage mucking about, rants on and on ab rishi blanguage. butuage or rishi sunak language. but anyway, to talk to or rishi sunak language. but anyiabout to talk to or rishi sunak language. but anyiabout geri to talk to or rishi sunak language. but anyiabout geri homer to talk to or rishi sunak language. but anyiabout geri horner or talk to or rishi sunak language. but anyiabout geri horner or geri to halliwell. >> geri halliwell. yeah who? >> geri halliwell. yeah who? >> where now? now in that position , you know, you find out position, you know, you find out that your hubby has been sending some messages as you scroll some text messages as you scroll through the iphone on, what do you do ? you do? >> you know what? >> you know what? >> i read the messages and i don't think they're that bad. can i say that? >> i haven't read them? we just. i actually don't care.

>> had we just came >> we just, we had we just came across a few, um, messages. they're quite they're quite spicy. if i, if i, if i found those messages it would be that would be the end for you. yeah. even if you're dare i say, even if you're my, my other half. you're. we've been married 21 years like me for saying this on anti—feminist. >> go on, go on. if your hubby was as rich as mr horner , little was as rich as mr horner, little mr horner sat in the corner. >> um, okay. oh, it's a hard one, but i mean, it's so humiliating . it'sjust humiliating. it's just devastating. humiliating humiliating. it'sjust devastating. humiliating i would literally be. >> i apologise for you on my knees. >> oh . who said that? me. oh >> oh. who said that? me. oh phew. um. but they were bad, weren't they? they're not good. >> and i have to say, i mean, i can't you know, pretend to know what geri halliwell's going through when you find out that your husband's, um. because. because i've never married. because i've never been married. i've never been kissed. oh i know it's like. know what it's like. >> on. wasn't. this is. >> hang on. it wasn't. this is. look, don't want to be look, i don't want to be anti—christian . and horner, anti—christian. and horner, because is amazing. red

because he is amazing. the red bull amazing. and one's bull team is amazing. and one's on um, i think did on today. um, but i think he did leave wife geri . and leave his wife for geri. and i think that his wife might have been. >> so is there a certain amount of once a cheater? always a cheater? well was saying last night headliners know, night headliners that, you know, if do it to the person if they'll do it to the person before , if they'll do it to you, before, if they'll do it to you, they'll do it with you. >> yeah. a leopard doesn't change its spots. yeah. and i think that i'm not sure if i would trust him. yes would ever trust him. yes >> i mean, the sad thing is obviously she stood by him throughout the whole internal investigation and, know, and investigation and, you know, and she the plane, i think she was on the plane, i think a private jet to go and see him in bahrain. got cleared. and to bahrain. he got cleared. and to celebrate. and these text messages out overnight messages leaked out overnight whilst er, whilst she was mid—air. er, essentially. yeah. >> so i mean, whole of the >> so i mean, the whole of the racing community as well, i think people interested think people are so interested in you. in this. well aren't you. >> oh are they not. >> no. oh i am, are they not. >>— >> no. oh i am, are they not. >> no. oh i am, are they not. >> no neither. >> no neither. >> oh i find it absolutely huge news. >> their private business surely i >> -- >> well 5mm >> well we're talking about a multi million dollar formula one is massive. we are proud of formula one right. yeah. formula one this country kind of. well

enormous. where the we host them . right. but the people from all over the world are involved. >> ken has written in and ken says who cares in capital letters. thank ken. letters. thank you ken. >> ken. >> okay ken. >> okay ken. >> ken is voice of the nation. >> we really are a nation of voyeurs in the way that the front page, well, that's it. >> where do you stand then? on finding more about the finding out more about the princess and the health princess of wales and the health condition and rest of condition and all the rest of it? you think actually we've it? do you think actually we've got know, or do you got a right to know, or do you side with those flooding this email saying, keep your email inbox saying, keep your beak we don't need to know. >> i know we don't need to know. i mean, the poor lives in hospital. >> i think we do. you know, i'd like to know she's entitled to a private. >> everyone is entitled i. >> everyone is entitled i. >> entitled to >> well then entitled to a private life. well, i think if you're in the public eye. >> well, i could be in a taxi. i could be in a lift with kim kardashian. i wouldn't know who she um, so, you she was, you know? um, so, you know, couldn't care. was know, i couldn't care. was couldn't care less. >> tell story. i actually >> oh, tell a story. i actually was in a lift with tom was once in a lift with tom jones, and didn't realise it jones, and i didn't realise it was tom jones. >> oh, well, yeah, it's unusual. >> oh, well, yeah, it's unusual.

>> no no no. >> oh, no no, no no no. >>— >> oh, no no, no no no. >> so while we've still got a bit of time left, i want to ask you about this story on the nation's most nostalgic sounds, because nokia has because the nokia ringtone has come for some reason top. come out for some reason on top. >> let's play it . now >> yes. let's play it. now i just find that annoying, isn't it ? it? >> yeah . >> yeah. >> yeah. >> everybody's. >> everybody's. >> he's doing the mobile shuffle. >> is there a sound that you find particularly nostalgic? >> um. there's the. do you remember the old internet dial up tone before all this wireless little, little, little. it was like a phone dialling , you know, like a phone dialling, you know, going into the internet. you had to wait there for about five minutes. it seemed to get any connection before you could then go nice nostalgia? >> is that a nice nostalgia? >> is that a nice nostalgia? >> well, no. i'm glad. i'm glad. yeah we haven't got it again. >> well, i was was, it was >> well, i was it was, it was frustrating. i was listening to michael he michael portillo earlier and he had dial, you know, the had an old dial, you know, the old fashioned phone. i do like that i remember if you that sound. i remember if you had a really good dial on your phone, had good phone, it had a really good chunky. it's kind of kind of like a nice chunky and like a nice chunky sound. and i

quite those mechanical sounds. >> the old haptic nature of it, isn't it? >> yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah. >> nostalgia sound. >> nostalgia sound. >> old >> well, i'm not old enough to remember those. you very. remember those. thank you very. >> remember dial up, but i >> i remember dial up, but i feel nostalgic. >> but not not not sort of the phone. yeah. don't you remember the phone? >> phones? i was. we used >> phones? when i was. we used to have a phone lock. >> do know, i think we had >> do you know, i think we had buttons. really >> had phone lock on our. >> we had a phone lock on our. so you couldn't actually dial it. yeah, the kids it. oh i see, yeah, the kids couldn't get it. >> like a child. >> yes. like a child. >> yes. like a child. >> yeah, but i worked out how to hack it. oh tell you afterwards. >> sound of a crackling fire. >> sound of a crackling fire. >> you can get those 24 hours they run on youtube. oh, that's them day, every day if you them all day, every day if you want to. anyway. want to. but anyway. >> panel. you very much. >> panel. thank you very much. fabulous. as ever. >> thank you. >> thank you, thank you. >> thank you, thank you. >> still to come, we're >> now still to come, we're going joined by the actors going to be joined by the actors behind scandalous willy behind that scandalous willy wonka next, where is the >> but up next, where is the princess of wales and what's going on with prince harry? all the news up next. the latest royal news up next. this saturday morning live on this is saturday morning live on gb news, britain's news channel

welcome back to saturday morning live . it's another big week for live. it's another big week for the royal family where the princess of wales has apparently gone missing. that's what twitter thinks anyway. after not seeing her for weeks, kensington palace have said that she is doing well as she recovers from abdominal surgery. meanwhile prince william returned to royal dufies prince william returned to royal duties on thursday. >> that was a few days since he withdrew from a memorial service for his godfather. he visited a synagogue where he met a holocaust survivor, joining us now to unpick all the latest from the royal household and where actually princess of wales actually is, and whether or not actually is, and whether or not actually we have a right to know that folks, that's a question i want to know. we're joined now by the royal commentator and good show, jennie good friend of the show, jennie bond. an absolute bond. jennie, an absolute pleasure to see you. where are you at on that argument? do you think people should keep their beaks out of princess of

beaks out of the princess of wales health concerns ? wales health concerns? >> we should all dial it >> i think we should all dial it down. i think we cannot be dancing to the tune of social media and internet trolls and conspiracy theorists who know absolutely nothing . nothing has absolutely nothing. nothing has changed from the moment that catherine was taken into hospital for her abdominal surgery , we were told that it surgery, we were told that it was going to take a long time for her to recover. several weeks. indeed, we were very unlikely to see her anytime before easter. nothing has changed about that. the palace have said nothing has changed. so some kind of frenzy has been whipped up online, which is totally ridiculous. i think we should shut up about it. she is a woman who has had serious surgery . she would rather keep surgery. she would rather keep the details of that private, and that's how absolute right? well jenny, i'm telling you right now what you are saying will be music to the ears of our viewers and listeners, because that's what they're saying in this email inbox. >> all morning today. email inbox. >> and norning today. email inbox. >> and nornin agree,y. email inbox. >> and nornin agree, actually, >> and i also agree, actually, i think it's pretty strange that

people seem to want it. yes. um, they seem to want there to be some kind. >> but, jenny, what do you say to the argument that actually, because his majesty the king was very open his cancer very open about his cancer diagnosis , that now a precedent diagnosis, that now a precedent has been set where buckingham palace was open about his majesty the king and therefore kensington palace, perhaps ought to be about the princess of wales as well, to a point he's been open, but we actually don't know what kind of cancer he's suffering. >> he's preferred to keep that private. i have no idea. and again, i mean, we all got absolutely, ridiculously worked up fact that william up about the fact that william missed one private engagement . missed one private engagement. you know, the poor guy. you know, i have no idea what was wrong. he doesn't want to tell us. he probably had an upset stomach something stomach or something. something that very that would make it very embarrassing the embarrassing to broadcast to the world make world and something would make him particularly want him not particularly want to stand at that service . stand up. um, at that service. but as you see, he was out and about again thursday and on about again on thursday and on friday his synagogue. and friday at his synagogue. and then in wales, um, then yesterday in wales, um, celebrating saint david's day.

he's absolutely fine. so again, we i think it's truly dangerous if we start reacting to what is written on, on twitter or x or whatever it's called, it's absurd to do so. we need proper, accurate journalism here. and we must hold onto those standards . must hold onto those standards. >> uh, jenny, are you worried about the size of the monarchy? because, of course, his majesty the king was absolutely clear as prince of wales that he wanted a slimmed down monarchy, that he wanted a working set of working royals that smaller than royals that was smaller than perhaps were but is perhaps we were used to. but is that becoming an issue? you know, when got his know, when you've got his majesty the king taking a step back public duties and, of back from public duties and, of course, the princess of wales, who lot, you know, who was doing a lot, you know, before christmas, really actually picking up quite a pace. oh yes. >> she really, uh, camilla has stepped up to the mark. absolutely. she is taking on a great deal of the duties that the princess of wales would have done, and the king would have done. yeah. i mean, oh, so we've just lost jenny there.

>> jenny, the camera's gone rogue. the camera's gone rogue there. >> oh, goodness. sorry. >> oh, goodness. sorry. >> no, don't worry , jenny, a bit >> no, don't worry, jenny, a bit of excitement . um, camilla has of excitement. um, camilla has absolutely stepped up to the mark and, uh, the royal family has slimmed down naturally. >> um, in size. and so charles has got his wish, if you like. but i think we have to think that in europe, for example, there are very many fewer working royals. we have 11 at the moment, working some of them are getting on in age. it has to be said. but in the netherlands, for example, um, and in norway there are only seven ion, um, and, and in luxembourg there are only four. so the natural way of monarchies in europe is to be slimmed down. and i think we are heading in the same way. we must get used to it. >> so in a word then, is it time to bring back prince harry? dare i say that's not going to happen. >> um, even if harry were willing and again, we have nothing to back up the rumours and reports he might be and reports that he might be willing. uh, william would would absolutely not want that to

happen and why should he? happen. and why should he? william loyal. william william has been loyal. william has been steadfast, and harry is doing his thing. i wish him well. he's happy . but you well. i hope he's happy. but you can't back in. that's can't just step back in. that's just not going to happen. i think people are just doing it for fun. think people are just doing it for ijn. think people are just doing it for i think they just enjoy there >> i think they just enjoy there being conspiracy. c so thank being a conspiracy. c so thank you very much, lots more you very much, jenny. lots more to the show today. but to come on the show today. but first, let's get news first, let's get the news headunes first, let's get the news headlines francis . headlines with sam francis. >> good morning from the gb newsroom. let's take a look at the headlines at just after 1130 more pro—palestine protests are planned this weekend following rishi sunak's warning last night that islamist extremists and far right groups are, he says, spreading poison and trying to tear us apart in that speech, delivered from downing street , delivered from downing street, he called for the nation to unite, highlighting the rise in extremist disruption, intimidation , threats and intimidation, threats and planned acts of violence . it planned acts of violence. it followed george galloway's

controversial win in the rochdale by—election earlier this week, which the prime minister described as beyond alarming . organisers of those alarming. organisers of those protests this weekend have now responded to the prime minister's pledge to back stronger police action, suggesting he expels some senior mps from the party. it's after rishi sunak pledged to support the robust policing of demonstrations, particularly pro—palestinian marches. the metropolitan police have in the past said that showing support for a terror group is a criminal offence, adding that the right to protest comes with a responsibility to act within the law. says local marches are planned today and tomorrow before another national demonstration in london . on the demonstration in london. on the 9th of march. a manhunt is now underway after three people were injured in a shooting in an area of london. popular with bars and restaurants. the shots were fired by assailants on a moped as they were being pursued by police in clapham, south london,

at around 5:00 last night. two people we understand suffered shotgun pellet injuries as they were drinking at a nearby pub. a third person was also injured by the moped itself. police say the injuries are not, though life threatening . those are the threatening. those are the headunes threatening. those are the headlines for now . for more, you headlines for now. for more, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen, or go to gb news .com/ alerts .

welcome back to saturday morning live. >> it's now time for your weekly dose of showbiz , and we're dose of showbiz, and we're delighted to have showbiz journalist stephanie takyi with us. >> us. >> thank you stephanie. >> thank you stephanie. >> morning guys. guys. >> morning guys. guys. >> so, um, now , now, i don't >> so, um, now, now, i don't know very much about showbiz. i am totally in your hands here. um, the brits, the brit awards >> it's the biggest night on the

calendar for music. you know, we have the grammys, we have all those other music shows. but this is pure british entertainment tonight. last year there was a big for all because they've got rid of the gendered categories and they've gone gender which all award gender neutral, which all award shows are doing at the moment. and tends happen is and what tends to happen is women to suffer in these women tend to suffer in these awards like you did last year, because it was an all male category for the category for all, for the artists of year. this year, artists of the year. this year, they've tried their hardest. 57% of the nominations go to women tonight. if you watch, you're going to be seeing one single. ray. she's up for an incredible seven nominations and she's already won. she's already won songwriter of the year. so i think it's going to be her night tonight. there's other people like kylie minogue. she's going to to the stage and to be taken to the stage and she's also going to be receiving a icon award . yes and no. a global icon award. yes and no. >> kylie minogue . but do you >> kylie minogue. but do you know, think actually another know, i think actually another australian star? yeah. australian pop star? yeah. recognise and that's our very own peter andre. oh of course, of course. >> come on brit, wake up girl.

>> come on brit, wake up girl. >> we need an honour. um, do you know what? i actually worry about? the way in which you're right to mention that it's that lose out. but this seems to be happening across the piece, doesn't it? this. this is what all of this diversity and inclusion actually means. all of this diversity and in means actually means. all of this diversity and in means the actually means. all of this diversity and in means the exclusion means. all of this diversity and in means the exclusion of,3ans. all of this diversity and in means the exclusion of, well, it means the exclusion of, well, this is the problem because i don't think the brits are ever going to go back to doing gender categories. >> but, you know, this year for the artists of the year, they've increased their amount of nominations artists. increased their amount of ncan'tations artists. increased their amount of ncan't help. artists. increased their amount of ncan't help but artists. increased their amount of ncan't help but feel|rtists. increased their amount of ncan't help but feel itists. increased their amount of ncan't help but feel it feels i can't help but feel it feels a bit of tokenism, like we have the controversy this year. so this going make up this year we're going to make up for being nominated for more women being nominated and adele, when she and someone like adele, when she won before, she said, actually, i want be a woman and i still want to be a woman and i still want to be referred to for a woman, and i'm for all gendered categories. >> meritocratic, think? >> meritocratic, do you think? not brits, but these not just the brits, but these years award ceremonies are. years of award ceremonies are. and music industry in and the music industry in general. of general. now we're sort of living instagram where living in an instagram age where you influence others you have these influence others who are music and on. who are out music and so on. yeah and of ruled by yeah and it's kind of ruled by the algorithm . the algorithm. >> it is. how much?

the algorithm. >> because, how much? the algorithm. >> because, you much? the algorithm. >> because, you know,? the algorithm. >> because, you know, i was looking through list. looking through this list. >> yeah, i recognised quite literally nominees, >> yeah, i recognised quite literlipa nominees, >> yeah, i recognised quite literlipa is nominees, >> yeah, i recognised quite literlipa is the nominees, >> yeah, i recognised quite literlipa is the only nominees, >> yeah, i recognised quite literlipa is the only one ninees, >> yeah, i recognised quite literlipa is the only one whose. dua lipa is the only one whose name i knew. >> dave, who i found out is a rapper. >> yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah. >> comedy channel for boomers. >> comedy channel for boomers. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> so you know how much does >> so you know how how much does this to do with politics, this have to do with politics, with, um, posturing , like you with, um, posturing, like you say, like trying to kind of, like, make up for the last years i >> -- >> yeah. >> yeah. >> exclusionary nominations , >> exclusionary nominations, that kind of. >> well, it's all changed now. the music industry before things used be based on sales, but used to be based on sales, but now media kind of detects now social media kind of detects it's dictating the trends in the music industry . and then we've music industry. and then we've got the music labels as well as with any of these showbiz awards things. it's all about the money labels and how much money they've put behind it. so i think it is a bit of a hard one. it becomes about social media and those labels as well. >> well as being a big kylie >> as well as being a big kylie minogue yeah, also a big minogue fan. yeah, also a big fan of eurovision . yeah, our act fan of eurovision. yeah, our act this year. alexander we've this year. olly alexander we've got clip . well, let's have got the clip. well, let's have a listen at what he will perform

in, won't you? >> mayo make me dance for your kisses. will you take my hand and spin me round and round until the moment olly alexander . until the moment olly alexander. >> that's dizzy, that's charleton. it's making me feel. >> it's making me such but such a strange video. >> so you see is i don't think we're going to win. >> stephanie. are we? >> stephanie. are we? >> i totally agree with you. i don't think we're going to win. you know, it's pure eurotrash and i'm like, can we just get a good ballad going? know, we good ballad going? you know, we had some rider who done amazing, obviously . and i think it's been obviously. and i think it's been hard to follow up that success. last we finished second to last year we finished second to last molly may with i wrote last with molly may with i wrote a song and again she was she was tweeting about how much she hates this country . hates this country. >> and olly alexander has been sharing what was it signing ? sharing what was it signing? >> well, he signed a petition agreeing that israel is an apartheid regime. he's now sources have now come out and said that he's not going to be doing any further political

comments about the israel and gaza war, but already jewish groups have come out and said he should not be representing the uk . so it's hard, you know, if uk. so it's hard, you know, if you're going to put yourself up for the eurovision, you need to understand newspapers and understand the newspapers and journalists. going to journalists. they're going to try a way to put you try to find a way to put you down. even though he is represent uk, are the represent ing uk, these are the things pin him down on things that can pin him down on the night. things that can pin him down on the but1t. things that can pin him down on the but you know, stephanie, so >> but you know, stephanie, so many and many of our viewers and listeners are emailing and saying things like, how hard would be? yeah we churn out would it be? yeah we churn out number one singles around the world, internationally, our music created music in a country that created the beatles, we are soft power. power. but actually we power. yeah. but actually we can't find an artist to perform it. no, that actually likes the damn country. >> this is the problem. >> well, this is the problem. and think know these and i think you know these labels. you're going labels. if you're going to pick an artist represent the an artist to represent the country, that they are country, make sure that they are representing and they're representing us and they're staying out of politics, stick to the music leave all your to the music and leave all your politics i think now politics aside. and i think now for alexander, he's for olly alexander, he's a lovely guy, but i can imagine in the lean up to in the lead up to eurovision, the kind

eurovision, these are the kind of that are going to be of things that are going to be coming out against him. >> i to ask you, because so >> i have to ask you, because so our lovely producer us this our lovely producer sent us this list nominees night, list of nominees last night, and i thought, to a i thought, i'm going to go a little down rabbit hole. little bit down the rabbit hole. >> don't know who any of these artists are. >> yeah, and going to >> yeah, and just going back to this eurovision. yeah, exactly. it's to me and i'm, know, it's to me and i'm, you know, same bieber. yeah same age as justin bieber. yeah um, boomer. yeah i listen um, not a boomer. yeah i listen to these and watch these videos, and think is so weird. and i think this is so weird. yeah. is going on? because yeah. what is going on? because it's so strange . you see him it's so strange. you see him sort of on this rotating chocolate cake? >> yeah. >> yeah. >> convulsing and writhing. what? why like you were saying. >> olly alexander . yeah. yeah, >> olly alexander. yeah. yeah, yeah, yeah. his people are on the internet trying to find stuff. >> okay. what what really is going on? >> is it because this is not. this is not good music. and these are not good videos? >> well, you know, i like to think we've got taste in music , think we've got taste in music, emma. but i think the problem is there's a new generation of music fans that are coming up and, you know, before you be able to follow an artist in their years and years,

their career, years and years, this like the minutes of this is like the 15 minutes of fame generation . so they need to fame generation. so they need to do things, is quite do things, which is quite shocking, which are shocking, things which are going to , capture their to catch, capture their attention. know , and it's attention. you know, and it's just generation isn't it? just that generation isn't it? >> it's those tiny one minute clips and i see universal music group . yeah, pulled their music group. yeah, pulled their music off tiktok . and now the industry off tiktok. and now the industry are saying, what am i going to do? >> i'm the artist. >> i'm the artist. >> artists don't last. >> the artists don't last. >> the artists don't last. >> know don't. >> they know they don't. >> they know they don't. >> the changing >> it's the changing of generations , i'm afraid. but you generations, i'm afraid. but you know , if they're to sell know, if they're going to sell records, the record labels are happy with that. >> well, steph be watching >> well, steph will be watching and be thinking of you and and i'll be thinking of you and wondering what you're thinking. >> to go. >> these guys to go. >> these guys to go. >> have all gossip. >> i'll have all the gossip. steph. guys. steph. thanks, guys. >> come, we're >> folks still to come, we're finally to meet the actors finally going to meet the actors from willy wonka from that willy wonka experience. a world of pure imagination or where dreams go to die. this is the saturday morning live on gb news, britain's news channel .

>> welcome back. don't forget to keep sending darren and i your questions about the topics of today's show, and we'll chat through them with our panel and guests. >> yes, let's have a look, a quick look at what you've been saying. now a scot has written in and scots talking about eurovision, which as i mentioned, i'm a big fan of, but scott says, look, we could have elvis singing for the united kingdom and we would still end up with neil point . i think that up with neil point. i think that he may be right. is there a bit of anti—british sentiment at eurovision? you betcha . emma, eurovision? you betcha. emma, you had an email that you loved. >> glenn has a special place in my heart, he says. i'm 70 years old now. if i'm lucky, i might have another 20 or so years left out. i dread to think what the uk will look like in 20 years. but worst of all, i fear for my grandchildren, my children and my grandchildren. kind of my grandchildren. what kind of country world will they experience? certainly it will be nothing at all like the one when

i was growing up. and you know what, glenn? over the last couple of days, i've been thinking exactly the same thing. and um, so i think and i'm only 30. um, so i think you're absolutely hitting the nail head there. nail on the head there. >> i agree, i think if >> so whilst i agree, i think if we in this country allow the lights of freedom flicker lights of freedom to flicker out, else is going to out, then who else is going to actually light again? you actually light them again? you know, how serious know, that's that's how serious things are changing so rapidly. >> they now that we >> they are even now that we mustn't we mustn't stop mustn't stop, we mustn't stop now freedom to fabulous. now from freedom to fabulous. >> up next on gb news, it's dawn neesom dawn, what have you. >> i wonder what you were going with that one. it's like, what else begins with f that he could possibly use? fabulous. i'll take. thank you very much. i've got a cracking show up. got a cracking show coming up. we've brilliant a great, we've got a brilliant a great, uh, middleton exclusive. oh uh, kate middleton exclusive. oh i can't tell you anymore. you'll have watch. mean, where is have to watch. i mean, where is she? your find out? um, she? what's your find out? um, also, halliwell , street also, geri halliwell, street corner. yeah. what should she do next? what did you make of those text messages ? uh, if it was my text messages? uh, if it was my husband , it'd be walking very husband, it'd be walking very high pitched voice. put it that

way. yeah, yeah , yeah, yeah. and way. yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. and he's quite rich, isn't he, mr horn? well, yes. you know, i might be on the phone to my lawyer a little bit. um, and also george of course. also george galloway, of course. how avoid him? he the how can we avoid him? is he the cat got the cream or just cat that's got the cream or just an alley cat? wow. lots of coming. i've interviewed george galloway. have you? yes. >> not with a saucer of milk. >> not with a saucer of milk. >> not with a saucer of milk. >> not with. no no no no no no. there was no, there was no licking going on. don't worry. >> well, dawn, we can't wait to see you shortly. see you shortly. have a good show. all right, folks, it's time for right, folks, now it's time for the the week. if you've the story of the week. if you've ever classic film ever watched the classic film charlie and chocolate charlie and the chocolate factory thought , well, mind factory and thought, well, mind you, this looks like fun, you might want to reconsider. >> there were stunning scenes in scotland this week, as 850 ticket holders coughed up £35 per person for their own golden ticket to willy wonka's chocolate experience. they were expecting fun and chocolate themed treats, but it turns out that disappointment was the only thing on the menu.

>> yes, where dreams become reality as how this event was advertised. but according to parental feedback, it's actually where dreams went to die. one parent even wrote on facebook , parent even wrote on facebook, sold a dream and delivered a nightmare to get to the bottom of this dark chocolate experience , we're joined by experience, we're joined by three of the actors hired to participate in the event mr willy wonka himself, michael archibald , and an oompa loompa. archibald, and an oompa loompa. >> kirsty patterson. thank you both for joining us. >> now, kirsty, i have to come to you first. i mean, you you just look like you were having the worst time of your life in that picture. i mean, did you enjoy it? >> um, to be honest with you, me and no , i didn't. and no, i didn't. >> i didn't enjoy it. no, it was the worst job i think i've ever donein the worst job i think i've ever done in my life. um, the only reason why i kind of stood up and did it was for the kids and the parents, and i can vouch that for the other actors involved as well. um, really, involved as well. um, it really, really really, seemingly really was a really, seemingly took the picture was the took the picture that was the picture. exactly how i felt in that moment. exactly

>> it'sjust that moment. exactly >> it's just awful. that moment. exactly >> it'sjust awful. i mean, how >> it's just awful. i mean, how was it sold to you as an actor? right? how did they get you involved in the project worked. so >> so when they approached us, um, they said it was going to be like this big event. and i looked at like how much they were charging and how much we were charging and how much we were getting paid for it because it was quite well paid. we were getting it and you kind getting paid for it and you kind of put the two and two together like they must. this is going to be production. and, be an amazing production. and, you maybe i will more you know, maybe i will get more work out this. um but no, it work out of this. um but no, it was just it was just a shambles. the only reason why i didn't walk off is purely for the kids and the families and the other actors, to be honest with you, michael, what do you think of actors, to be honest with you, mi(the l, what do you think of actors, to be honest with you, mi(the publicity? you think of all the publicity? >> because has been, >> because this has been, i mean, obsessed with this mean, i'm obsessed with this story turned into story and it's been turned into memes social media all memes across social media all week . um, do memes across social media all week. um, do you feel a memes across social media all week . um, do you feel a little week. um, do you feel a little bit sort of scammed by or do you see the funny side? i definitely see the funny side? i definitely see the funny side? i definitely see the funny side of it, but

what i find even funnier are the people trying to be like, oh, the this isn't the real willy wonka. >> there was only one of those and everyone's been saying about how there were three in total. so it's a bit funny really, but honestly, the publicity i wasn't expecting this was my first gig. i just wanted to, you know, make a quick buck. i'm a student and i've been living on my own since i've been living on my own since i was 17. oh no, i don't think anyone begrudges you that. >> but if you look at the scenes that got on screen right that we've got on screen right now just for our radio listeners, and it looks like an empty you it empty warehouse, you know, it looks more fun in looks i could have more fun in ikea. >> what was going through your mind, first mind, kirsty, when you first turned and saw the state of turned up and saw the state of it right. >> so i'll explain my thought process. we turned on process. so when we turned up on the i, we got the script the friday i, we got the script on the friday, um , and i just on the friday, um, and i just thought right this it was clearly generated by ai. um it's terrifying. no the whole thing is just wild . um, and i looked is just wild. um, and i looked around and it was like, really,

really , everything was just it really, everything was just it was just like sheets of things and, um, really, really, really bad kind of random bits of mushrooms . and it was just awful mushrooms. and it was just awful . right. and i just kind of thought, well, they might they must be working throughout the night. they can do a lot of lights and they're just going to completely change this round. it's i turned on the it's when i turned up on the saturday morning , it's when i turned up on the saturday morning, um, that's when i realised, right, saturday morning, um, that's when i realised, right , this is when i realised, right, this is pretty, this is not going to end well at all. this is put it in well. and now it's like the story of the. >> so have you two become friends then, because of this i. >> yeah i'd say we have michael. yeah >> so like it's created bonds for life. i mean you'll never forget this moment. you've gone more viral than i think britney spears ever could . and she spears ever could. and she shaved her head . shaved her head. >> i know, i know , i know. >> i know, i know, i know. >> i know, i know, i know. >> do you know the funny thing about it is i didn't even put myself out in this exposure . and myself out in this exposure. and i've got this exposure that i think that is just the wild thing about it.

>> now i have to i have to ask you, michael. so for our viewers, we just saw that masked character there on screen. and that character is called the unknown. and it was it's not from willy wonka. it was generally by ai . yeah. um, generally made by ai. yeah. um, and can confirm it isn't kate and we can confirm it isn't kate middleton. despite the conspiracy theories on x. um, so what did you think? when you discover that this was all sort of conjured from al, that they were relying so much on al, did you think this is a little bit weird from the start? >> so , uh, i'm an artist and we >> so, uh, i'm an artist and we have to deal with this. all i stuff all the time . so it was stuff all the time. so it was honestly incredibly interesting because on the day. right. billie's pitching to us all of this, and he's like, i thought about this for a really long time. um, and in reality, it was just, oh, i typed in a couple of words into a generator and there we go . and funnily enough, uh, we go. and funnily enough, uh, in the actor's chat, it was kirsty and i really going into this ai kirsty and i really going into this a! stuff. we were like, what is going on? because we were both like, sharing these

photos websites. and we photos from the websites. and we were , this is absolutely were like, this is absolutely ridiculous . ridiculous. >> what is the a message from the two of you? then to those who actually paid that £35 for a ticket and who feel mightily let down, shall we say, by the experience that they had . experience that they had. >> um, i feel honestly, i do feel really awful, especially at a cost of living crisis right now. and it's just it's disgusting. it's been like hundreds of pounds. people have paid this. it's just not like small amounts of money for people . so. all right, well, people. so. all right, well, well , on that note, honestly, well, on that note, honestly, i really , really feel for them. really, really feel for them. and yeah , really, really just and yeah, really, really just hope that they can all come to an end money wise. that's true. >> well, luck to both of >> well, best of luck to both of youse. kirsty michael there. youse. kirsty and michael there. thank you much joining youse. kirsty and michael there. th.from ou much joining youse. kirsty and michael there. th.from home much joining youse. kirsty and michael there. th.from home ohiuch joining youse. kirsty and michael there. th.from home on saturdayyining youse. kirsty and michael there. th.from home on saturday morning us from home on saturday morning live today. don't go anywhere as we said earlier, dawn neesom is up next. ellie and pete will see you at the same next week .

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its way northwards. elsewhere, its way northwards. elsewhere, it become drier still. it starts to become drier still. some coastal showers , but inland some coastal showers, but inland under light winds we could see under a light winds we could see some mist and fog patches developing, turning quite dense by the end of the night. some icy stretches too, as temperatures fall close to, if not below freezing, minus to not below freezing, minus two to minus the countryside . minus four. in the countryside. so cold, icy start to sunday so a cold, icy start to sunday morning . some dense fog patches morning. some dense fog patches take their time to slowly lift and break as we move through the day, but overall tomorrow it should be drier and brighter. some sunny spells this weather front nearby could give some thicker cloud. patchy rain along some coast. a few some eastern coast. a few showers west. showers in the west. temperatures near average for the year . see you temperatures near average for the year. see you soon! the time of year. see you soon! >> looks like things are heating up boxt boilers sponsors of weather on .

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welcome to gb news. saturday hope you're having a smashing weekend. i'm dawn neesom for the next three hours. i'll be keeping you company on tv, onune keeping you company on tv, online and on digital radio, keeping you up to date on all the stories really matter the stories that really matter to you. coming up. this hour is democracy under threat? the prime minister warned prime minister has warned extremists to extremists are trying to undermine democracy, as undermine british democracy, as he called country to he called for the country to come together and beat this poison. also issuing poison. varne also issuing a direct plea to pro—palestinian protesters, calling on them to reject radicals who are hijacking their marches and urge police to take a tougher stance. there on pro—palestinian protesters . are them again, are protesters. are them again, are occupying branches of barclays across the uk calling for a boycott of the bank over their links to israel arms manufacturers. we are one of those protests to see if they've actually listened to rishi sunak's words and the princess of wales spent almost two weeks in hospital after undergoing

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