>> hello, good afternoon. it's 3:00. this is gb news on tv onune 3:00. this is gb news on tv online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua and for the next few hours me and my panel will be taking on some of those big topics that are hitting the headunes topics that are hitting the headlines right now. this show is all about opinion. it's mine, it's theirs. course it's it's theirs. and of course it's yours. we'll be debating discussing and at times we will disagree. but no one will be cancelled . so joining me in an cancelled. so joining me in an hours cancelled. so joining me in an hour's time , trade unionist and hour's time, trade unionist and political commentator andy macdonald and also broadcaster and columnist lizzie cundy in a few moments time, i'll be crossing a line to tel aviv to speak to world famous mr farage uri geller. but before we get started, let's get your latest news headlines. >> nana, thank you very much. good afternoon from the gb newsroom. it is just coming up to 3:01. we start with the news that's been leading throughout the course of today that dozens of pro—palestine marches are taking place across the uk this

weekend, after rishi sunak called on organisers not to let extremists hijack those protests. in his speech , protests. in his speech, delivered from downing street last night , delivered from downing street last night, he called for the nafion last night, he called for the nation to unite and warned that islamist extremists and far right groups are spreading poison, he said, and trying to tear us apart. if followed . tear us apart. if followed. george galloway's controversial win in the rochdale by—election earlier this week , which the earlier this week, which the prime minister described as beyond alarming. the rochdale by—election returned a candidate who dismisses the horror of what happened on october 7, who glorified hezbollah and is endorsed by nick griffin , the endorsed by nick griffin, the racist former leader of the bnp. >> i need to speak to you all this evening because this situation has gone on long enough and demands a response, not just from government, but from all of us. >> organisers of those protests this weekend have now responded to the prime minister's pledge

to the prime minister's pledge to back stronger police action, suggesting that he should expel some of his own mps because of their divisive views. it's after rishi sunak. in his statement last night pledged to support the robust policing of demonstrations , particularly demonstrations, particularly pro—palestinian marches , as the pro—palestinian marches, as the metropolitan police have in the past said that showing support for a terror group is a criminal offence, and they've added that the right to protest comes with the right to protest comes with the response ability to act lawfully . several local marches lawfully. several local marches as i said, are planned today and more tomorrow before another national demonstration in london, coming up on the 9th of march. as we've heard today, that a manhunt is underway after three people were injured in a shooting in an area of the capital popular with bars and restaurants. the shots were fired by assailants on a moped as they were being pursued by police in clapham in south london. that was at around 5:00 last night. two people, we understand suffered shotgun pellet injuries as they were drinking at a nearby pub . the

drinking at a nearby pub. the third person was also injured by the moped itself, though police have said the injuries are not life threatening . this afternoon life threatening. this afternoon we learned that a cargo ship was abandoned in the red sea after a houthi missile strike off the coast of yemen, and that ship has now sunk. it comes as reports from the uk's maritime agency have also suggested that the militant group, who are backed by iran , have attacked backed by iran, have attacked another vessel off the coast of yemen. meanwhile, the uk , the us yemen. meanwhile, the uk, the us and the eu all have military ships in the region patrolling and protecting commercial vessels that are passing through that important shipping route . that important shipping route. now a fashion show hosted by victoria beckham at paris fashion week has been disrupted by an animal rights group. peta activists were seen taking to the stage. if you're watching on television, you can see the scenes here from that fashion show yesterday where the protester took to the stage walking the runway alongside the

models, holding signs that said viva vegan leather . the models, holding signs that said viva vegan leather. the group explained that while miss beckham's fashion brand has stopped using real fur and exotic skins , they claim it exotic skins, they claim it still uses leather , which is still uses leather, which is obtained via methods it says are cruel. the group has also targeted brands including burberry and fendi. the show did, though, continue after that protest and staying with fashion. the icon iris apfel, has died today at her home in florida at the age of 102. she was known, of course, for her distinctive glasses and fun, no nonsense approach to fashion, and she founded the luxury company old world weavers with her husband in 1950. she then went on to have a long and successful career in fashion, then , at the age of 97, she then, at the age of 97, she signed a major modelling contract with a global agency. just after a year of having a limited edition barbie doll created in her image . 60 mile

created in her image. 60 mile per hour limits are to be scrapped along some parts of the m1 and the m6. after a successful test of greener driving speeds, drivers can now return to the national speed limit 70 miles an hour after some improvements were seen to air quality , t cars had been air quality, t cars had been forced to slow down on the two motorways in the midlands since 2021. in an effort to see if driving more slowly would reduce emissions . and finally, the best emissions. and finally, the best of britain's music industry are gathering in london today for this year's brit awards, including none other than the princess of pop . everybody is princess of pop. everybody is doing a brand new dance now. >> come on, ready to learn how much she needs? >> no introduction. that's the superstar kylie minogue, who will be crowned this year's global icon . she'll be global icon. she'll be performing a medley of some of her greatest hits later tonight and leading the main awards. however is ray, who's already broken seven records with

nominations across the musical remit. that's the most in a single year. she's up against some stiff competition, though, with dua lipa and olivia dean also up for key awards tonight . also up for key awards tonight. those are the headlines. for more, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the code there on your screen. or go to gb news .com/ alerts . gb news .com/ alerts. so it is fast approaching seven minutes after 3:00. >> this is a gb news on tv onune >> this is a gb news on tv online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua coming up performer and mr farage uri geller will be joining me live from tel aviv for the latest on the israel—hamas war. stay tuned for climate control at 320. i'll be unpicking the debate around the climate and asking why so many welsh farmers are protesting for plans to make them use their land for environmental

initiatives . at 335, doctor pam initiatives. at 335, doctor pam spurr will be live to discuss a transgender cat killer who will have her crimes officially recorded as a woman , even though recorded as a woman, even though she's serving her sentence for murder in a male prison and howard cox is my political spotlight this week as the reform uk london mayoral candidate tells us about why he delivered a petition to freeze fuel duty to downing street. now that's coming up in the next hour as ever. tell me what you think on everything we're discussing. email gb views at gb news.com or tweet me at . gb news.com or tweet me at. gb news.com or tweet me at. gb news. as well as pro palestinian marchers are once again taking place across the country today, protesters are calling for a ceasefire in gaza . now. they've ceasefire in gaza. now. they've been happening since the israel—hamas conflict before which began in october last year . and now pro—palestine and demonstrators are turning their attention to barclays bank. they're blockading and occupying branches of the bank in protest

overits branches of the bank in protest over its links to the israel arms company. so joining over its links to the israel arms company . so joining me over its links to the israel arms company. so joining me now is our west midlands reporter, jack carson , who was one, was at jack carson, who was one, was at one of these protests in wolverhampton . and jack, talk to wolverhampton. and jack, talk to me about the protests and out of interest , do they seem to have interest, do they seem to have taken note of some of the things that rishi sunak said ? that rishi sunak said? >> well, certainly today, from what we saw at the protesting here outside this barclays bank and a very peaceful certainly none of the chants that we've been hearing, of course, at some of the marches, chants like from the river to the sea, there was some being played , some music being played, pro—palestine music , but pro—palestine music, but certainly no chanting from any of the protesters here. they had their placards saying , um, their placards saying, um, saying of course, calling for a ceasefire. um, as well as , of ceasefire. um, as well as, of course, waving those palestinian flags. but there wasn't any of the chanting. now, the reason that they are boycotting barclays and this is all coming from the palestinian solidarity campaign today , is one of their campaign today, is one of their national days of action, where

they're calling on people at branches across the country, um, to boycott barclays. they say it's because they the bank, from their own research , has £1 their own research, has £1 billion. they say, in shares and provides £3 billion in loans and underwriting to nine companies. they say , whose weapons, they say, whose weapons, components and military technology, they say, are being used by israel on their attacks in gaza. so that's why they want people to boycott barclays with the idea being that therefore, if people boycott barclays and they take their business elsewhere, won't be able to elsewhere, they won't be able to afford to loan those companies any course . but what any money. of course. but what we've the likes of we've seen from the likes of rishi sunak, of course, on the steps downing street, is that steps of downing street, is that he is saying that there are forces here at home to forces here at home trying to tear wanting the tear us apart and wanting the police to properly these police to properly police these kind of protests they when kind of protests when they when we , um, which are, we see things, um, which are, you know, alarming and intimidatory rather than just maybe mind the protesters certainly there was some involvement from the west midlands in midlands police here in wolverhampton there wolverhampton today when there was passer by who was was a passer by who was

obviously growing in frustration at repeated palestinian at the repeated palestinian protests the likes of cities protests in the likes of cities like in wolverhampton, he like this in wolverhampton, he tried to confront the protesters three um, going up to three times, um, going up to them, in their faces. them, shouting in their faces. there back and there was a bit of back and forth, but west midlands forth, but the west midlands police involved and police did get involved and pulled those two people apart. and sent him on his way and and then sent him on his way and finally, the third finally, after the third attempt, did leave and attempt, he did leave once and for there was some for all. so there was some confrontation. the confrontation. but certainly the police , more keen and eager to police, more keen and eager to get involved possibly that get involved. but possibly that could just just because could just be just just because of where we are today. it's not so wasn't much so much. it wasn't so much greater, greater size in numbers, particularly . it was numbers, particularly. it was small numbers. so that's probably why the police were able involved able to get involved more freely. we have that first freely. when we have that first again, that point of rishi again, since that point of rishi sunak speeches on the steps of downing street on the 9th of march, big, more national march, that big, more national protest for palestine, that's when see whether when we'll really see whether the the minister the words of the prime minister have taken by the likes have been taken in by the likes of metropolitan of the metropolitan police down in and we'll see in london, and how and we'll see then how these protests are policed coming weeks. policed in the coming weeks. >> did you sense, though, that the police appeared feel have

the police appeared to feel have more confidence in their behaviour because a lot of the time when i've watched the police, somewhat police, they've looked somewhat timid. comes of timid. when it comes to sort of speaking and approaching protesters . protesters. >> it certainly when they when they kind of got a knack of this signing , i they kind of got a knack of this signing, i wouldn't say kick off because it was there was no kind of physical involvement between the two parties. but when the when the shouting got a little bit when the shouting got a little bh and when the shouting got a little bit and a little bit bit loud and a little bit louder, the police were straight over just to kind of come and overjust to kind of come and try people try and pull these two people apart try and move. apart and just try and move. this of the public that this member of the public that was not with was obviously not happy with these, with these protests today, certainly today, moved them on certainly this when we here this morning when we here observing protests the observing the protests at the start there there was quite start there was there was quite a of the police a few members of the police before realised there before they realised that there wasn't going to be too much of a crowd. obviously they crowd. and obviously they diverted resources. so certainly the been the police presence has been greater than maybe greater here today than it maybe it previously . and yes, it has been previously. and yes, certainly, nana that my certainly, i'd say nana that my observation is that there were certainly quicker get certainly quicker to get involved not just stand involved and not just stand around watching as some around maybe watching as some criticism has been them criticism has been of them before criticism has been of them beflisten, thank you very >> listen, jack, thank you very much. carson he's

much. that's jack carson he's our london reporter. he's our west london reporter. he's there in wolverhampton. well joining from israel to joining me now from israel to discuss the conflict there is mr fire, uri geller. uri, thank you so much forjoining me again. it's always a pleasure to see you. um, i wanted to ask you straight away were were rishi sunak's words welcome words from where you are in israel ? where you are in israel? >> uh nana. please, please allow me to divert your attention to something totally different. look, nana, we usually talk about what's going on in israel, but today i want to ask what is going on in britain ? what is going on in britain? what is happening to your country ? so happening to your country? so last week, jihadists hijacked big ben, then your mps say they're getting death threats. and now some hamas fanboy called george galloway has been elected . what is happening to british democracy? nana listen, will you allow me to deliver a personal

message for george galloway on your program ? please allow me. your program? please allow me. so listen . hey, george. now so listen. hey, george. now i know you don't like israelis and you boycott them as a matter of principle . yes. you refuse to principle. yes. you refuse to even meet them . you refuse to even meet them. you refuse to meet israelis . but wait meet israelis. but wait a minute, george . but look at this minute, george. but look at this .look minute, george. but look at this . look at this, george . . look at this, george. remember, george, how you came running up to me ? yes. you came running up to me? yes. you came to me because i was famous . to me because i was famous. suddenly you didn't really care so much . you put your arm around so much. you put your arm around me, look and you knew i was israeli and you knew that i had served in the idf. george galloway hugged an israeli . what galloway hugged an israeli. what a hypocrite . a hypocrite. >> well, listen, uri, wait wait, wait wait, let me finish. are you finished? then i'll speak for george. yeah, you. >> george , listen. you are a >> george, listen. you are a walking pantomime and i have a

very special gift. just for you. here it is a special uri geller. not that spookiness. >> no, no no no, we can't see that. honestly, i have to . this that. honestly, i have to. this is apologies to george or anyone who was offended by that. george galloway is not to defend galloway is not here to defend himself but yes, i himself either, uri. but yes, i was worried. you put that spoon up there , but. yeah. or are you up there, but. yeah. or are you cheeky man ? i'm. i'm cheeky man? i'm. i'm >> it's on my cadillac. you know, i just took it off my cadillac. no big deal. come on. everybody does that . this bbc everybody does that. this bbc presenter did it too . so. but presenter did it too. so. but let's let's go over here. i'm going to take it back to the cadillac. >> don't worry. i'm not going to show it again. offended by that? if you look very closely, you'll see why i'm saying that. anyway. sorry. on about israel . sorry. go on about israel. >> look, uh, seriously, here in israel, we got some terrible news last night. you know, as you know, hamas has been holding dozens of israeli hostages . for

dozens of israeli hostages. for 148 days. will now it says that seven more have been killed . seven more have been killed. this is unbearable for israel . this is unbearable for israel. we have got to get the remaining hostages out and lastly, i'll say this hostage release talks are going nowhere because hamas is making impossible demands. do not forget that hamas has caused this war. israel wants to end the war and the palestinian suffering and bring our hostages back. this is where we are. >> well, itsunori , thank you >> well, itsunori, thank you very much. always good to talk to you. take care of yourself and a very interesting spoon . and a very interesting spoon. that's uri geller mystified. there live in tel aviv. i'm nana akua. there live in tel aviv. i'm nana akua . this is gb news on tv, akua. this is gb news on tv, onune akua. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. it's fast approaching 16 minutes after 3:00, coming up as a transgender killer, crime is recorded as a woman. is gender ideology getting out of hand? but next it's time for climate

control, where we unpick the debate around the climate. and the question is, is the welsh government deliberately setting out farmers ? this out to punish its farmers? this is

gb news. good afternoon. it's 17 minutes after 3:00. if you're just tuned in. welcome on board. this is gb news. we are the people's channel and nana akua. and it's time now for climate control, where unpick debate where we unpick the debate around farmers in around the climate. farmers in wales are warning that their industry will risk if the industry will be at risk if the welsh government et its plans go ahead with proposed changes to farming subsidies outside the welsh parliament. they protested against plans which require 20% of their agricultural land to be set aside for environmental initiatives . the welsh labour initiatives. the welsh labour government insists that the changes are necessary to fight climate change, but also conceded that the plan could still be adjusted at the end of a consultation . varne unions a consultation. varne unions warn that there will be

thousands of job losses . so is thousands of job losses. so is this really necessary? i'm joined now by donal mccarthy, director of the climate media coalition, and also climate scientist paul burgess . donica scientist paul burgess. donica i'm going to come to you first. is this really necessary? yes, absolutely. >> what's quite extraordinary about this, of course, is welsh farmers voted brexit. farmers voted for brexit. >> what is brexit done? >> what is brexit done? >> done two things. first >> it's done two things. first of all, it's meant a £1.1 billion cut to the welsh government's budget, including kwasi billion for rural affairs. so it's billion pounds out so it's kwasi billion pounds out of welsh economy and of the rural welsh economy and second, it said an end to subsidies for doing nothing under the european system. farmers in wales got 67% of their income from the government for doing nothing up sheep farmers up to 88. and so what now? the government is doing is you must do something in return . you must do something in return. and what must do in return and what they must do in return is number of things wales, is number of things for wales, wales got a problem with, uh , wales got a problem with, uh, flooding and what additional trees do to farms it retains the water on the farm, so the flooding doesn't hit the

downstream towns . and in downstream towns. and in droughts it retains water in the land. so there's some moist air there for the crops and for for and the society at large. so what they're asking them to do , what they're asking them to do, for example, at the moment, 7% of farms are covered in woodland . they're asking them to increase that to 10, and they're asking for 10% of land for habitat . but this asking for 10% of land for habitat. but this is asking for 10% of land for habitat . but this is really good habitat. but this is really good news. the problem is the government, the uk government has cut the budget by a quarter of a billion. so the welsh government has cut, cut and government has to cut, cut and tail because of that. >> all right. um, paul burgess well that's the it's irrelevant the money and the brexit. >> i'm not going to go into that in waste time on that. the net effect of all this, the net effect of all this, the net effect is that farms are losing up to 20% of their land. right. and losing on and they're losing 10% on forestry and wilding. forestry and 10% on wilding. >> now, these small farms really that makes them uneconomic . that makes them uneconomic. >> now, what i'd like to >> now, why what i'd like to ask. what i'd like to ask is what is the benefit of this? what is the benefit doing what is the benefit of doing that? 20% off and they don't

give you a benefit the other give you a benefit on the other side this argument, there side of this argument, there is no well , i want to know the no well, i want to know the mathematics of how no, no, let me so didn't interrupt me finish. so i didn't interrupt you. i the mathematics. what you. um, i the mathematics. what are they? how how how just how many degrees centigrade or 10,000th of 1 degrees centigrade. will we actually save in the future from this? so if you're going to take action to take property away from people and that's what they're doing in wales and they've made it clear there's no compromise, no compromise, our leader mark drakeford, has made that absolutely clear that they're up in arms. the in wales in arms. the farmers in wales and they really it's a survival thing . and this is only the thing. and this is only the beginning of this madness. this is beginning . the is only the beginning. the basically got no right to basically you got no right to come a farm and say, you do come into a farm and say, you do this and you do that unless they can show clear benefit and can show a clear benefit and there is no calculation , nothing there is no calculation, nothing is done, no cost benefit analysis. so that's the point. what right have they got to do it without pointing out the benefit ? and by the way, we need benefit? and by the way, we need more co2 , not and more co2, not less. and the methane but surely if they plant

more trees , yes, that will more trees, yes, that will provide more co2 would it not. no, no it's sequestered. it pulls it in for temporary until until the trees are done away with at the end of its life. so, so as regards the flooding that was mentioned the it was mentioned by the way, it happened water happened to be the water resource engineer for and resource engineer for wales and charge that particular thing. charge of that particular thing. and met said in and as the met office said in their there is no their report, there is no evidence of more and so evidence of more flooding and so on as the again, worldwide on as the ipcc again, worldwide there's none. so all that's a myth. so under these myths and this religion of climate change, andifs this religion of climate change, and it's a religion we're fighting here, it's a doctrine and they don't quantify it . now and they don't quantify it. now i've just done a video. i'm sorry for the language, but it's called a farts dangerous. and if people go on youtube, are farts dangerous by you? you paul burgess, you'll find it because it's pretty unique title and it explains methane. when you double methane , you can't even double methane, you can't even measure difference to measure the difference to warming. you can't even measure it. and when you double co2 , you it. and when you double co2, you get 0.7 of a degree. but that's without the mitigation of

clouds, etc. so all of that's in that video , it's a myth. all of that video, it's a myth. all of this is a myth. >> so you're saying that it's not really necessary to grow more trees because that's what they're saying. this is to sort of help with the future effects potentially, of change. potentially, of climate change. i think they must mean lots of flooding. these, these flooding. and these, these there's evidence . there's no there's no evidence. there's no evidence. says. evidence. he says. >> the met office said for >> the met office has said for every degree rise in temperatures, there's a there's a 7% rise in in, in, in moisture held in the atmosphere this winter has been the wettest winter has been the wettest winter ever in uk history since. how long were those records recorded? 17th century. so >> so you're saying the water. the water, some. some farmers. 17th centuries. some. >> some farmers have. no some farmers have up to. no, no, no, no farmers of up to five metres flooding. >> you don't understand when i say be quiet, you stop talking because we're going to come back to that. so he said the 17th century, the records were measured that measured for flooding. is that if a rainfall. did you say rainfall? is that

correct? >> well, yes. but you may have been measured a long time, but not accurately for rainfall. >> matters the >> but what matters is the flooding, right? flooding depends factors. depends on many, many factors. for you urbanise a for example, when you urbanise a place, you're going to get quicker, flooding, quicker, run off and flooding, etc. you improve flood etc. if you improve flood protection a town , all protection for a town, all you've done is move the water faster downstream so faster downstream. um, so you can cause flooding . so it's faster downstream. um, so you cimuch se flooding . so it's faster downstream. um, so you cimuch more flooding . so it's faster downstream. um, so you cimuch more complex1g . so it's faster downstream. um, so you cimuch more complex thing) it's faster downstream. um, so you cimuch more complex thing than a much more complex thing than measuring a drought, for example. worst weather, example. but the worst weather, if going to go the if we're going to go to the 17th, the worst 17th, 18th century, the worst droughts were then a mile, droughts were then by a mile, the worst weather was then by a mile. and even let me finish this the met office . this with the met office. they've trouble at the they've just in trouble at the moment they are in moment because they they are in total denial about something. moment because they they are in total wentil about something. moment because they they are in total went on bout something. moment because they they are in total went on airt something. moment because they they are in total went on airt sor said ng. moment because they they are in total went on airt sor said they they went on air and said they went air and said recent went on air and said a recent storm was to do with climate, and asked give the and they were asked to give the evidence and you know, evidence for that. and you know, under freedom of information under a freedom of information and the information wasn't there, opposite . there, it proved the opposite. their annual report said the 80s. i've used on this 80s. and i've used it on this show before. read it out. the 80s and 90s were far more frequent. and more frequent. storms and far more severe. so now they severe. okay, okay. so now they deny it. >> e“ en- en— >> okay, back to you. okay. >> okay, back to you. okay.

>> you i said it was >> thank you. you i said it was the wettest winter ever. you turned around to him and asked him, it the west of winter ? him, was it the west of winter? and answer your question? >> he no, question? » he question? >> he no, he did ask >> no he did. no, no, he did ask him that. no, no, no, did him that. no, no, no, he did answer it. he said that it answer it. and he said that it was time as well. so was wet in that time as well. so carry no, he said were carry on. no, he said there were lots of the records. >> back the 19 17th >> went back to the 19 17th century. said the weather century. and he said the weather was bad and were he didn't was bad and those were he didn't say that this was not the worst winter the second say that this was not the worst winteiare the second say that this was not the worst winteiare you the second say that this was not the worst winteiare you going1e second say that this was not the worst winteiare you going1e �*say,1d say that this was not the worst winteiare you going1e �*say, was thing are you going to say, was it the west wind? >> is the wettest winter? >> is this the wettest winter? no, think it is. >> is this the wettest winter? no,but think it is. >> is this the wettest winter? no,but canthink it is. >> is this the wettest winter? no,but can i|ink it is. >> is this the wettest winter? no,but can i justit is. >> is this the wettest winter? no,but can i just say we just >> but can i just say we just had tongue? no, no, you're had the tongue? no, no, you're not more. not going to say any more. >> okay. >> okay. >> carry on. okay i think that's the answer. it is wettest the answer. it is the wettest winter the winter ever. according to the met second is met office, the second point is that actually 1800s. that he actually agreed 1800s. >> so since we've recorded a fair point, the second point is actually agree on. actually something we agree on. >> actually if you if >> he actually said, if you if you channel you if you channel, channel the water in, down, water off the farms in, down, down, down, down river, you flood towns. didn't flood the towns. i didn't say that. one the that. now, once one of the things that woods do. things that what woods do. >> he said that it moved >> no, no he said that it moved urbanisation faster down faster. >> protection it moves it >> but protection it moves it down. he's acting flood

down. so he's acting on flood protection. what's form protection. what's the best form of is nature. of flood protection? is nature. and you have, the and the more woods you have, the more water up more you trap the water up river, up stream, up in the valleys. what government river, up stream, up in the va wales what government river, up stream, up in the va wales whatis government river, up stream, up in the va wales whatis goingernment river, up stream, up in the va wales what is going to ment in wales is doing is going to pay in wales is doing is going to pay farmers for retaining pay the farmers for retaining the woodlands that they have currently increasing the 7% currently, and increasing the 7% to 10. so they're being paid to do something. >> why are they up in arms about it? >> well, most people well, most people were why would people if you were why would they i, if i was being they upset if i, if i was being paid 88% my income for doing paid 88% of my income for doing nothing years, nothing for the last 20 years, i'd unhappy if the government i'd be unhappy if the government changed it. wouldn't you know, look, floods. look, first order on the floods. >> no evidence at all >> you've got no evidence at all as wettest winter. as regards the wettest winter. can this ? about two can i just say this? about two years ago, we put up 12% more moisture in atmosphere than moisture in the atmosphere than tonga. . we tonga. underwater volcano. we put enormous amount of put an enormous amount of moisture of vapour. moisture of water vapour. >> it wettest winter ever? >> no, i don't know. actually, i haven't looked that up, but i'm almost it isn't. but almost certain it isn't. but that's anyway, was that's weather anyway, if it was that, whether weather, that, whether that's weather, it's pattern of it's not climate. a pattern of wetness. is climate a pattern of heatis wetness. is climate a pattern of heat is the met office quoting weather? no. the met office are the met office are a voice. the

mets are the met office won't even run up, won't own up to their own annual report which says 80s and 90s for where storms are now are now when they're asked to prove it , they they're asked to prove it, they refuse to apologise . that's how refuse to apologise. that's how bad they are. we have a woke met office not fit for purpose , but office not fit for purpose, but they've got a lot of high paid jobs on it. >> wonderful thing about >> the wonderful thing about what government is what the welsh government is doing major doing is, is addressing major crisis addressing the crisis is in addressing the climate crisis, addressing the soil addressing the wood soil crisis, addressing the wood crisis and the stressing of wildlife wales is the seventh worst deprived wildlife nation on earth . almost all of its on earth. almost all of its wildlife has gone. why? because they demolished all the woodland on the uplands and they replace them sheep . and the sheep them with sheep. and the sheep industry is a 100% dependent on state subsidy to survive. there are 9.4 million sheep in wales. our taxes are subsidising and we're exporting to france. >> yeah, but that's all very well. but the farmers who actually do the job and live on the land said that the, the actual the steps of the government taking wreck government are taking will wreck their industry. that's what

they're that that is they're saying. and that that is they're saying. and that that is the and these are the the concern. and these are the farmers. the people on the concern. and these are the farnland the people on the concern. and these are the farnland who the people on the concern. and these are the farnland who are the people on the concern. and these are the farnland who are stealing)ple on the concern. and these are the farnland who are stealing the on land. >> they're stealing the land, and pretending there's and they're pretending there's a problem on floods that isn't there. way. they're there. by the way. they're pretending problem pretending their problem on floods can't quote floods and just you can't quote weather incidents anyway, a single winter's weather is not climate . no. you've got to climate. no. you've got to understand that. and floods are not worse. and by the way, if you were doing it on flood protection and i was involved in the plynlimon investigation protection and i was involved in the plywales| investigation protection and i was involved in the plywales , investigation protection and i was involved in the plywales , where estigation protection and i was involved in the plywales , where we gation protection and i was involved in the plywales , where we seton protection and i was involved in the plywales , where we set up in mid wales, where we set up whole areas studying the effect of forestry floods , etc. i've of forestry on floods, etc. i've gone into this . i was in charge. gone into this. i was in charge. iused gone into this. i was in charge. i used to pick up a red telephone and wake up a whole. sorry. yeah, yeah. my, my point is there's no evidence sorry. yeah, yeah. my, my point is andre's no evidence sorry. yeah, yeah. my, my point is and ifs no evidence sorry. yeah, yeah. my, my point is and if there evidence sorry. yeah, yeah. my, my point is and if there evide going to there. and if there was going to be you say, you be flooding, like you say, you put particular areas, but put it in particular areas, but there's no rule to do that. you can woodlands anywhere. there's no rule to do that. you can20s woodlands anywhere. there's no rule to do that. you can20s you woodlands anywhere. there's no rule to do that. you can20s you don't.ands anywhere. there's no rule to do that. you can20s you don't kills anywhere. there's no rule to do that. you can20s you don't kill the ywhere. there's no rule to do that. you can20s you don't kill the sheep. >> 20s you don't kill the sheep. >> 20s you don't kill the sheep. >> industry the moment is an >> industry at the moment is an old industry is dependent old industry that is dependent on of on hundreds of millions of pounds subsidy that has pounds of state subsidy that has got come end, and we got to come to an end, and we need the government to need to for the government to pay need to for the government to pay do something pay farmers to do something as positive for wales protected

soil, woodland and soil, protect its woodland and protect if protect its wildlife well, if what doing was what they are doing was beneficial farmers and beneficial to the farmers and the they the farmers were happy, they wouldn't protesting and wouldn't be protesting and saying it's going to cost saying that it's going to cost more than 5000 jobs. >> it will interesting >> so it will be interesting to follow and follow that. donald mccarthy and also thank you also paul burgess, thank you very much. right just coming up to it's news. we're to 3:30, it's gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio on the way, my political spotlight where joining a is joining me to shine a light is reform london reform uk's london mayoral candidate howard cox. i'll be speaking him about the speaking to him about the campaign to keep fuel duty frozen but let's get frozen. but first, let's get your latest headlines . your latest news headlines. >> nana. thank you very much. >> nana. thank you very much. >> and good afternoon. these are your top stories from the gb newsroom. >> dozens of pro—palestine marches are taking place in towns and cities across the uk this weekend. after rishi sunak called on organisers not to let extremists hijack protest . s in extremists hijack protest. s in his speech, delivered from downing street last night, he called for the nation to unite, warning that islamist extremists and far right groups are

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confirm that scarlett blake will be sent to a male prison, but the murder of george carreiro will be recorded as carried out by a woman in. joining me now is doctor pam spurr, relationship psychologist pam , thank you so psychologist pam, thank you so much for joining psychologist pam, thank you so much forjoining me. see now, i remember reading the initial piece in the guardian and going, ah, i do on the odd occasion read guardian. know it's read the guardian. i know it's a rag, but i read it and there was no mention of the fact that this person transgender at all. person was transgender at all. what earth is going on? what on earth is going on? >> well, i think there's been a number of high profile and horrific cases that have really piqued the public. >> and as you say, the man who identified blake , identified as scarlett blake, who tortured and killed a cat and then murdered a woman , and then murdered a woman, thankfully is going to be put into a men's prison. thankfully is going to be put into a men's prison . but will he into a men's prison. but will he ultimately have his crime recorded as female? i'm not sure if they've decided, but listen to this statistic nana. let's take the violent crime of attempted murder that is so rare that even one man who identifies

as a trans woman , if that score as a trans woman, if that score criminal is recorded as a woman, it raises the female stats by 5. yeah so it really skews the data . we have to have accurate sex based reporting of crimes and for many other reasons. >> well, didn't he she murder a man ? because i thought this man? because i thought this person murdered a man. which is why, again , it sort of stuck out why, again, it sort of stuck out like a sore thumb. i just thought you said woman there, but, yeah, he. that's the thing. is that. yeah so. and when i heard that, i thought, well, that woman who's that sounds odd. a woman who's killed done something horrible to the cat and then also murdered man. some murdered a man. this is some strong it doesn't make strong woman. it doesn't make any pam. why are why is any sense, pam. why are why is this being pushed ? because to this being pushed? because to me. why not record the biological reality ? biological reality? >> well, this is what we're pushing for right now. and a number of journalists, one of my friends, uh, conducted comprised an incredible letter , was going

an incredible letter, was going out to all editors across the media saying it is not against the law to report crimes and other issues in the press with sex based reporting , because sex based reporting, because when people it's even as something like if police put out an all points bulletin saying a woman fled a park and this happened like 18 months ago, having raped a teenager, even witnesses think, well, who am i looking for? how did a woman rape a teenager in a park so it can disrupt witness accounts? and when it gets the opposite end, when a case gets to court , end, when a case gets to court, think of the victim and their families feeling abused once again. if they're asked to talk about my rapist was a woman. well that's just not the case. >> well, also, i thought the reasons, but i thought also the crime of rape could only be committed by a male anyway, so

it's penetration , isn't it? and it's penetration, isn't it? and a woman, we don't have the apparatus to behave in that manner in any case. so. exactly yeah. >> women have been asked to respect the gender of their rapists. the way the rapist ids as a woman. so it's quite shocking what victims of violent crimes like rape have been, have been put through in court. parallels and now i've got to tell you, the overall statistics show from the ministry of justice to the moj stats show show that men who are identify as trans women have the propensity for male type violence and when it comes to sexual offences , 60. i think sexual offences, 60. i think we're just losing power. i trans women, that is compared to 17% of men who do not get id as women. so there's a higher propensity for the trans women

as they call themselves, who end up in prison to have committed sexual offences as and we have to be aware of this. >> what is the problem millom with these people being called trans women? i don't i don't understand what the issue is. if it is a trans woman who is biologically male , why can that biologically male, why can that person not be? i mean, i would even say trans person that way. there's no, you know, that way you've kept it completely genenc you've kept it completely generic and there's no crossover and there's no the thing that doesn't make any sense. why are they so afraid of being labelled as transgender when that's what they are? i don't understand well, because that can fuses. >> now you are an educated woman, so you understand when you're talking about trans identities , right? the average identities, right? the average member of the public thinks, oh , member of the public thinks, oh, so a trans woman killed a cat and then murdered a man. and yeah , i guess a trans woman is yeah, i guess a trans woman is a woman. so they get confused . so

woman. so they get confused. so they're confusing male violence, which is not our crimes. we do not need men's crimes with us. which is why i totally believe it must be sex based report being sex based in court and sex based. when police put out bulletins , we need to know the bulletins, we need to know the sex of the criminal that we are deaung sex of the criminal that we are dealing with. yeah. >> doctor pam spurr , thank you >> doctor pam spurr, thank you very much. it's really good to talk to you. that, of course, is doctor pam, what are your views on that? are we sick and tired of this confusion that's of all this confusion that's been when you been put in place when to you and it's simple. male and i, it's simple. male and female. what female. that's it. but what do you think? after you think? 42 minutes after 3:00. this is gp news. i'm nana akua. welcome on board. if you just joined me, no worries. we've got still loads to come. my we've got still loads to come. my monologue on suella bravermans fears that she could be criminalised for views on be criminalised for her views on genden be criminalised for her views on gender. it's time gender. but next it's time for political we're political spotlight. we're joining shine a light as joining me to shine a light as reform london mayoral reform uk's london mayoral candidate howard cox will talk about his quest to pressure number 10 keeping the fuel number 10 into keeping the fuel duty frozen. this is

gb news welcome on board. this is a gb news we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua. we are live on tv, online and on digital radio. don't forget as well, you can stream the show live on youtube. it's time now though , for this week's though, for this week's political spotlight and joining me to shine a light is reform uk's mayoral candidate howard cox. now this week he delivered a petition to downing street , a petition to downing street, the founder of fair fuel uk had 126,000 signatures in support of keeping fuel duty free in fairfield, uk, has been successful in preventing 14 years of planned fuel duty rises and getting the government to adopt pump watch for transparent and honest pump prices and even influenced the petrol and diesel new car sales ban being moved to 2035. i'm pleased to say that howard cox, founder of fair fuel

uk and reform uk's london mayoral candidate, joins me now. howard, thank you very much. right. talk to me about this then. howard, what is going on? what's going on? >> well good afternoon. >> well good afternoon. >> uh, no, no, it's really great to be on show. to be on your show. >> yeah, it's simple. for 14, 15 years, we managed keep the years, we managed to keep the fuel duty frozen by the objective , campaigning and objective, campaigning and proving to the government that actually costs actually lower fuel costs actually lower fuel costs actually stimulate the economy , actually stimulate the economy, reduce the inflation in courage investment and increase gdp . investment and increase gdp. it's a no brainer. >> everyone knows if you've got more money in your pocket, you're going to spend it. give it to businesses are going it to businesses who are going to growth taxes in to pay more growth taxes in corporation to pay more growth taxes in cor|soation to pay more growth taxes in cor|so we've done the same thing >> so we've done the same thing again. this time really again. but this time i'm really pleased 40, uh, pleased to say i had 40, uh, heavyweight politicians behind it, 37 mp5 heavyweight politicians behind it, 37 mps and three, uh , top it, 37 mps and three, uh, top lords, including people like lord david frost, uh, who got john redwood. >> there's all sorts of people that have come out and said, look, don't, uh, put up fuel duty. >> in fact, most of them said, please cut it . please cut it. >> mm. >> mm. >> what's going on with your

pump then? that pump watch then? because that was something that were was something that you were trying going and you've trying to get going and you've now the government adopt now got the government to adopt it does mean to, to me, it. what does it mean to, to me, a normal motorist on the road in my little c one, 180,000 miles, 180,000 miles. it's done. it's like a skip inside. i i bet you it's as reliable as anything. >> it's much more reliable than me anyway. >> uh, to cut. yeah, yeah. what what was all about? >> uh, for 7 or 8 years of the campaigning, i've been doing, uh, i've called for a sort of a consumer price regulatory body. >> we've got ofcom, we've got off watch, we ofgem, we've off watch, we got ofgem, we've got sort of bodies. got all those sort of bodies. >> for million drivers, >> but for 37 million drivers, including price including you, there is no price transparency in terms of , you transparency in terms of, you know, what happens when oil goes up or goes down. we just have no idea what that impact will have on the prices we pay at the pumps. >> called for something >> so i called for something that give transparency and that will give transparency and honesty hitting too much honesty without hitting too much of the profits of the poor people. the people. the retailers and the fuel chain . fuel supply chain. >> and to say that >> and i'm glad to say that claire coutinho the minister claire coutinho, the minister of energy, with and she said

energy, i met with and she said she was pleased my proposal. >> they've adopted it at the moment. it's a voluntary scheme. >> see these, >> so let's see how these, uh, the supply chain adopt it the fuel supply chain adopt it and it , the fuel supply chain adopt it and it, because trans and implement it, because trans pnces and implement it, because trans prices are becoming a bit, a bit more flatter and more consistent across the country. >> there's still long way off >> there's still a long way off where them be. you where i want them to be. you want to be, as we know, want them to be, as we know, especially places like especially in places like motorway service stations, where they're 20 to 25, more than anywhere else. >> is on board. >> but it is on board. >> but it is on board. >> at least they're listening. >> at least they're listening. >> the annoying thing at the moment, course, we've got moment, of course, we've got a general coming on, and general election coming on, and i obviously know i know we've obviously we know that to win this that labour's going to win this election they truly election and they are truly anti motorists . election and they are truly anti moum, s . it election and they are truly anti moum, s. it might not win, >> um, well it might not win, but it does look like it. but then to be fair to the labour party, i don't think the conservative party were adopting anything at all were anything different at all were they. they were all going along with thing that with this 2035 thing that thankfully people you, thankfully to people like you, it's back a little it's got pushed back a little bit, but they are still struggling to sell the evs. but speaking of sadiq khan, though, his ltns is he rolling back his ltns is he now rolling back on the ltn plan that he had?

because i know he's installed them somewhere and the people simply aren't happy, and i think he's agreeing with you. >> , there is a tacit >> well, there is a tacit admission we're seeing that they're realising ltn is all they're realising ltn is all they're doing is moving the traffic elsewhere, causing more congestion, therefore more emissions. all the sorts of things common sense like you things any common sense like you and recognise, and he and i would recognise, and he should you. uh, but should listen to you. uh, but obviously what he's obviously you know what he's like. obviously you know what he's uke. huge obviously you know what he's like. huge ego. and like. he's got a huge ego. and the will to admit he's wrong. >> i'm sorry. it's going to take a the only way we a lot longer. the only way we can anything about this is to can do anything about this is to vote may the second. can do anything about this is to votibut. may the second. can do anything about this is to votibut. but may the second. can do anything about this is to votibut. but sadiqy the second. can do anything about this is to votibut. but sadiq khan second. can do anything about this is to votibut. but sadiq khan would. can do anything about this is to votibut. but sadiq khan would say >> but. but sadiq khan would say that actually, it's not his ego. and he's doing realising and what he's doing is realising that isn't working , that if something isn't working, he's change he's got the ability to change it he's not a fixed thinker. it and he's not a fixed thinker. um which good um you know, which is a good quality actually first quality and actually the first time seen it in it ever. time i've seen it in it ever. but just me. he but that's just me. maybe he does it. does a lot of it. >> no. well you're right. i mean, obviously i followed him very closely for. >> but while he's been office >> but while he's been in office and his misery and all his calls, his misery for motorists and to be fair , for motorists and to be fair, misery to streets where misery to those streets where all the traffic has been diverted to. >> it's living in an ltn.

>> it's lovely living in an ltn. but equally you can't like an uben but equally you can't like an uber, a taxi driver can't take youngsters home at night to their front because they their front door because they get going through their front door because they get so going through their front door because they get so there'sg through their front door because they get so there's a through their front door because they get so there's a safetyh their front door because they get so there's a safety issue there. so there's a safety issue as well. there's all sorts of connotations from , from connotations nana and from, from my view, yeah. if he my point of view, yeah. if he reverses this, my hands reverses this, i'll put my hands together. the first together. i'll be the first person applaud but person to applaud him. but i'm afraid can't that afraid i can't see that happening . happening. >> yeah, you know. but >> yeah, but you know. but that's he see the that's hopefully he will see the light. maybe he might see the light. maybe he might see the light congestion charge light for his congestion charge as ulez that as well. the extended ulez that nobody and i don't nobody really wants and i don't know, is it working for him or what's happening with that . what's happening with that. >> well it's working and generating huge amounts of money for, him and tfl. it's for, for him and tfl. yes. it's got massive money coming in. but in terms of actually improving the quality of air, we breathe is any difference. and is hardly any difference. and that was told about that that was he was told about that on august the 29th when he introduced it, that any expansion of to the m25 expansion of ulez to the m25 will not cause any demonstrable increase in air quality that the air we breathe . and yet he still air we breathe. and yet he still went ahead with it. >> course, a labour >> but of course, a labour government that this wouldn't be

a mean, they are a london thing. i mean, they are spreading of course spreading wider and of course the government. think the labour government. i think it rayner that it was angela rayner that committed spoke of committed to or spoke of expanding all properly expanding them all properly throughout . throughout the country. >> well, clean air zones are happening everywhere , right happening everywhere, right across the country. >> absolutely >> so you're absolutely right. >> so you're absolutely right. >> only manchester. andy >> it's only manchester. andy burnham it, but there are introducing it, but there are i mean everyone's queuing up because guess what? these cash strapped councils have no strapped councils have got no money. you can get money. and guess how you can get it the motorists. they're it from the motorists. they're always this always there like in this budget. mean , cars and budget. i mean, uh, cars and motorists, they contribute nearly £60 billion a year to the exchequer . they're the fifth exchequer. they're the fifth largest supplier to largest income supplier to jeremy hunt. so this time , let's jeremy hunt. so this time, let's give it a break and put more money into people's pockets. that's they've got to do. that's all they've got to do. and economy flourish. and watch the economy flourish. in challenging him to in fact, i'm challenging him to actually by a massive actually cut it by a massive £0.20 per litre. i'll tell £0.20 per litre. and i'll tell you what that would do. do it just until the general election. see what happens. like we when just until the general election. seecutiat happens. like we when just until the general election. seecut fuel, ppens. like we when just until the general election. seecut fuel, uh,ns. like we when just until the general election. seecut fuel, uh, vat ike we when just until the general election. seecut fuel, uh, vat manye when just until the general election. seecut fuel, uh, vat many moons we cut fuel, uh, vat many moons ago, you know, about 6 or 7 years ago, cut vat and it had years ago, we cut vat and it had an experiment it . if an experiment on it. if it doesn't i'll hold up my doesn't work, i'll hold up my hands. but it will work because

it'll something it'll put something like £12 into car or filling into every family car or filling up into their pockets and they will spend that and it will go into economy and inflation into the economy and inflation will plummet. >> um, and finally, i wanted to will plummet. >> you and finally, i wanted to will plummet. >> you aboutnally, i wanted to will plummet. >> you about the y, i wanted to will plummet. >> you about the dvsaanted to will plummet. >> you about the dvsa recalling ask you about the dvsa recalling 500 public transport buses due to their the potentially about to their the potentially about to blow up or ignite. these are electric buses or evs. yeah, yeah , these are electric buses. yeah, these are electric buses. >> that's right. what the dvsa are worried about the safety . are worried about the safety. we've seen, uh, 3 or 4 of these happensin we've seen, uh, 3 or 4 of these happens in bus stations and on the road , uh, just spontaneously the road, uh, just spontaneously combusting and, and what the point is, these were introduced too quickly without the proper, uh, critical, uh, you know, safety analysis . they didn't do safety analysis. they didn't do that. and now that's why the dvsa is saying we can't risk this. it's happening around the world. by the way , it's not just world. by the way, it's not just these buses, but tfl. and each of buses costs 450,000. of these buses costs 450,000. nearly half £1 million. wow. compared compared to a diesel bus, which is about two. yes, that's right, 450,000. >> what ? >> what? >> what? >> yes. that's it. now you know.

yes, i know that's what they are . and so those are the sorts of things i contributed to help with this article. i think the mail were coming out with it. um, and, and what's happening is quite rightly, would like a quite rightly, i would like a moratorium electric moratorium on all electric buses right uk until right across the uk until they're proven they're safe, safely , safely, for safely, safely, uh, safer for passengers . passengers. >> well, isn't howard cox really good to talk to you? that is, of course, howard he is the course, howard cox. he is the mayoral for reform uk. mayoral candidate for reform uk. thank you for your thoughts, howard. thank you for joining me. that of course, was my political spotlight. well, political spotlight. but well, listen coming listen stay tuned because coming up joined by my amazing up i'll be joined by my amazing panel trade andy panel, trade unionist andy mcdonald , also broadcast from mcdonald, also broadcast from columnist lizzie cundy . and of columnist lizzie cundy. and of course i will be delivering my monologue bravermans monologue on suella bravermans fears could be fears that she could be criminalised her views on criminalised for her views on genden criminalised for her views on gender. stay tuned. don't go anywhere. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. it's time to get an update with your weather looks like things are heating up . heating up. >> boxt boilers sponsors of

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lifting and breaking through the day and then overall sunday will be day. some sunny be a bright day. some sunny spells, showers across spells, scattered showers across western areas again, bit western areas again, a bit wintry over the ground. wintry over the higher ground. this front could this weather front could give some cloud across the some thicker cloud across the far east of the country. temperatures quite cool. still 7 to 9 celsius, but in any sunshine. not feeling too bad . sunshine. not feeling too bad. and then for monday, a cold and frosty start, some patches frosty start, some fog patches and that milder air starts and then that milder air starts to in. in association to come in. but in association with this area of rain across southern southwestern areas southern and southwestern areas over the next few days, it brightens up a little. there'll be some spells and be some sunny spells and temperatures start to rise as well. back double figures, well. back into double figures, particularly south. particularly in the south. >> that warm feeling inside >> with that warm feeling inside from boilers , sponsors of from boxt boilers, sponsors of weather on .

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4:00. i'm nana akua this is a gb news on tv online and on digital radio for the next few hours, me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headlines right now. this show is about opinion. it's show is all about opinion. it's mine , it's theirs. of course mine, it's theirs. and of course it's yours. will be debating, discussing at we will discussing and at times we will disagree, no one will be disagree, but no one will be cancelled . so joining me today cancelled. so joining me today is trade unionist and political commentator andy macdonald , and commentator andy macdonald, and also columnist also broadcast from columnist lizzie cundy. in a few moments time, my monologue on suella bereavements concerns that she could be criminalised for her views on gender. but before we get started , let's get your get started, let's get your latest news headlines . nana. latest news headlines. nana. >> thank you very much and good afternoon. your top stories from the gb newsroom. dozens of pro—palestine marches are taking place in towns and cities across the uk this weekend. after rishi sunak called on organisers not to let extremists hijack protests. in his speech ,

protests. in his speech, delivered from downing street last night , delivered from downing street last night, he called for the nafion last night, he called for the nation to unite, warning that islamist extremists and far right groups are spreading poison and trying to tear us apart. it followed george galloway's controversial win in the rochdale by—election this week, which the prime minister described as beyond alarming . described as beyond alarming. >> the rochdale by—election returned a candidate who dismisses the horror of what happened on october 7, who glorified hezbollah and is endorsed by nick griffin , the endorsed by nick griffin, the racist former leader of the bnp. ineed racist former leader of the bnp. i need to speak to you all this evening because this situation has gone on long enough. and to demands a response not just from government, but from all of us. >> the us military has carried out its first airdrop of aid into gaza . it comes after the into gaza. it comes after the deaths of palestinians queuing for food brought renewed attention on to the growing humanitarian catastro me, president biden says he hopes to

see a ceasefire agreement between israel and hamas before the start of ramadan on the 10th of march. police are investigating after three people were injured in a shooting in an area of london popular with bars and restaurants. the shots were discharged when a shotgun was dropped by suspects on a moped as they were being pursued by police in clapham, south london, at around 5:00 last night, two people were injured by shotgun pellets as they were drinking at a nearby pub. a third person was injured by the moped itself . injured by the moped itself. police say the injuries are not life threatening . a cargo ship, life threatening. a cargo ship, which was abandoned in the red sea after a huti missile strike attack off the coast of yemen, has now sunk . attack off the coast of yemen, has now sunk. it's come after reports from uk's maritime agency suggests that the militant group, backed by iran , militant group, backed by iran, have attacked another vessel off the coast of yemen. the uk, us and eu all have military ships patrolling the region to protect commercial vessels passing through the important shipping

route . a fashion show hosted by route. a fashion show hosted by victoria beckham at paris fashion week was disrupted yesterday by the animal rights group peta. activists were seen taking to the stage during the show and walking the runway alongside the models, holding signs that said viva vegan leather. the group explained that while miss beckham's fashion brand has stopped using fur and exotic skins, they claim it still uses leather obtained via methods it says are cruel. the group has also targeted brands including burberry and fendi. the show did continue after the protest . now a part of after the protest. now a part of the famous sycamore tree is to be made part of a permanent display. the much loved 200 year old tree was a popular attraction for visitors to hadrian's wall in northumberland , but it was found cut down in mysterious circumstances in september last year, sparking a national outcry. the largest section of the tree will now form part of a display at the

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news. we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua. we are live on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm just so fed up of this here we go again. and my concern is that this will be made worse under labour, with which , if the polls are to be which, if the polls are to be believed, is inevitable. although none of the main parties deserve to win the other day, suella braverman pointed out that she fears that she could be criminalised and if trans conversion therapy is banned because she , like me and banned because she, like me and probably over 90% of the british pubuc probably over 90% of the british public and the rest of the world teaches her children that a boy cannot be a girl and vice versa . cannot be a girl and vice versa. >> in my view, in our household, in my family , we believe that a in my family, we believe that a man cannot be a woman . man cannot be a woman. >> a boy cannot be a girl. man cannot be a woman. >> a boy cannot be a girl . and >> a boy cannot be a girl. and thatis >> a boy cannot be a girl. and that is what i would be telling my children with the best intentions and from a place of love. >> and if that were to criminalise me, it would that would be a crying shame and a

total undermining of good parenting in this country. >> so , for example, if a male >> so, for example, if a male child comes to you and says that they think that they might be a girl and you say that's not biologically possible, or you dissuade them from the belief or suggest otherwise , that this suggest otherwise, that this could be seen as conversion therapy, which, if it were banned, would mean that you would have broken the law however well meaning this is meant to be in my view, it works in reverse when it comes to enabung in reverse when it comes to enabling children under the under the age of 18 to socially or medically transition . because or medically transition. because if there's one thing that i keep heanng if there's one thing that i keep hearing from detransitioners is that they wish the adults in the room had stopped them. but then some adults appear hell bent on going along with all of this, irrespective ludicrous it irrespective of how ludicrous it sounds. take notorious transgender prisoner tiffany scott, aged 32, who was taken unwell in their cell and died on thursday day. tiffany died a year after being denied a proposed move to a woman's

prison . the transfer was only prison. the transfer was only blocked after the isla bryson scandal . tiffany, otherwise scandal. tiffany, otherwise known as adam burns , was thought known as adam burns, was thought to be one of the uk's most vile inmates and was incarcerated in a scottish prison. now the fact that this was even considered that this was even considered that this was even considered that this person should be anywhere near a female prison is radical, callous and even as i read about this, the language is absurd and we were made aware of absurd and we were made aware of a 32 year old woman taken unwell at hmp grampian. she was taken to aberdeen royal infirmary where she died. she is a biological male , like the cat biological male, like the cat killer and murderer who apparently dissected the animal and then murdered a man . the and then murdered a man. the guardian initially reported this , making no reference to the fact that this person was not female and that they were transgender. when i read the story, yeah, i read the guardian on occasion. i thought that some mightily strong woman in it simply didn't sound right. but

then it turned out that they were, of course, a trans woman. so no, a biological man , even so no, a biological man, even pharmaceutical giant astrazeneca got into a bit of bother over its sex. is not binary trading material, which was apparently distributed by some managers and employees on their intranet system . the material stated that system. the material stated that biology b has a spectrum and a classifying and classifying a person as either male or female fails to capture even the biological aspect of gender, a former employee said. that said this of astrazeneca that it was the most extreme company that i have ever worked with in terms of gender identity, ideology . of gender identity, ideology. well, a spokesperson for astrazeneca said , at astrazeneca said, at astrazeneca, our aim is to cultivate inclusion and belonging by fostering an environment where everyone feels valued and heard and respected . valued and heard and respected. we are muddying the waters of reality and confusing a generation of people who need clarity and guidance. a man can

never be a woman and a woman can never be a woman and a woman can never be a man. i will continue to say this until i am blue in the . face right before we get the. face right before we get stuck into the debate, here's what else is coming up today for the great british debate this houn the great british debate this hour. i'm asking, is rishi sunak right? is our democracy under threat now? this comes as both islamists and the far right loathe britain . is he right? loathe britain. is he right? then, at 450, it's royal roundup time. lady victoria hervey will be here with the latest from behind the palace walls on the menu. the princess of wales is illness . what have? and illness. what does she have? and is okay? lady victoria has is she okay? lady victoria has a scoop. we'll be finding out from her. and then at five, it's this week's difficult conversation . week's difficult conversation. jason gale will be live in the studio to discuss the challenges facing the hospitality industry and what his project is doing to help . now that's coming up and what his project is doing to help. now that's coming up in the next hour as ever. tell me

what you think on everything we're discussing. email gbviews@gbnews.com or tweet me at . gb news. all right gbviews@gbnews.com or tweet me at. gb news. all right, gbviews@gbnews.com or tweet me at . gb news. all right, let's at. gb news. all right, let's get started. let's welcome again to my panel columnist and broadcaster lizzie cundy. and also trade unionist andy macdonald. right. i'm going to start with you lizzie cundy looking pretty in pink. >> well thank you. and you look absolutely spectacular today. nana you really do remind me of wonder woman. and you do as well darling. sorry i don't leave you out. i'm getting sick out. thank you. i'm getting sick to this i getting to death of this. i am getting sick to death of it. can we. can we deal with biological facts ? we deal with biological facts? you're either born a boy and you are a boy and you're born a girl . so, keir starmer, who still won't say what a woman is this is frightening. >> well, he did admit. is frightening. >> well, he did admit . well, he did. >> finally, after being asked how many times ? um. but look, how many times? um. but look, can we can we deal with biological facts , please? i mean biological facts, please? i mean , i'm scared to actually

sometimes speak out about about this because i get intimidated and silenced because everyone just jumps on, on you for talking about this . and, look, talking about this. and, look, the trans community needs to be treated with kindness and understanding funding. but please can we all just deal with facts? yeah >> well, andy, what do you think? i keep going on about it? i go along about it because it's important and i'm just going important and i'm just not going to let it go. >> i mean, agree it's an >> i mean, i agree it's an honourable what you're honourable crusade what you're doing, in on the story doing, but in on the story specifically conversion therapy doing, but in on the story specis:ally conversion therapy doing, but in on the story specis objectively �*sion therapy doing, but in on the story specis objectively aon therapy doing, but in on the story specis objectively a bad1erapy doing, but in on the story specis objectively a bad thing. that is objectively a bad thing. there's a difference between being a dissuading parent going, oh, sure ? oh, are you really sure? >> and a lot of >> and then what? a lot of conversion therapy actually is. >> you know, conversion therapy is whether is objectively bad. whether it's homo conversion homo sexual conversion therapy or conversion or transgender conversion therapy. that is bad. well, so but but but it's used to abuse young trans individuals. >> no it is. nobody's saying that it's not. yeah, but conversion therapy would be. so if i was if you thought that you were a woman, andy, which you're not, the way, just you not, by the way, just so you know. claim to be. know. and i didn't claim to be. >> i claim be. >> i didn't claim to be. >> i didn't claim to be.

>> said to you, and you >> i said that to you, and you thought you were then me talking to you. this talking to you about converting. i'm. about it is me converting. i'm. now, this were applied to now, if this were applied to transgender because like said, transgender because like i said, it's meaning. said it it's well meaning. but i said it doesn't. think it should doesn't. i don't think it should apply people if apply to trans people because if ispeak you apply to trans people because if i speak you in a well—meaning apply to trans people because if i speand you in a well—meaning apply to trans people because if i speand say,u in a well—meaning apply to trans people because if i speand say, but a well—meaning apply to trans people because if i speand say, but you're—meaning apply to trans people because if i speand say, but you're notzaning way and say, but you're not biologically, male, biologically, you are a male, i am embarking on, that am now embarking on, on, on that therapy, on conversion therapy. that's what suella was saying. >> well, i suella is >> well, i think suella is taking it completely out of context. the context. you know, the legislation about conversion legislation is about conversion therapy. conversion therapy. the abusive conversion therapy, suella is a lawyer. she wasn't a lawyer for very long. no you know, she's no but, you know, she was she's been politician for been a career politician for a long time. when was last long time. when was the last time she practised law? long time. when was the last timshe's she practised law? long time. when was the last tim she's trained |ctised law? long time. when was the last tim she's trained |cti a d law? long time. when was the last tim she's trained |cti a lawyer long time. when was the last timshe's trained|cti a lawyer and >> she's trained as a lawyer and she's pointing out things that how in they be interpreted. >> there are plenty of trained lawyers that get wrong lawyers that get things wrong just because someone's trained as they as a lawyer doesn't mean they have understanding of as a lawyer doesn't mean they hav legislative1derstanding of as a lawyer doesn't mean they hav legislative process.iing of as a lawyer doesn't mean they havpointing ve process.iing of as a lawyer doesn't mean they hav pointing ve pan ass. ling of >> pointing out an interpretation conversion interpretation of conversion therapy that we haven't therapy that maybe we haven't considered therapy that maybe we haven't cotoidered therapy that maybe we haven't coto transgender people. sure. it to transgender people. sure. >> i'm convinced that >> but i'm i'm convinced that there many there have been many interpretations many interpretations of very many legislations history . legislations throughout history. it doesn't mean that they're applied, just because

applied, you know, just because she's it that she's interpreted it that way doesn't be doesn't mean that it will be appued doesn't mean that it will be applied that could applied in that manner. it could be, be. be, it could be. >> and that's why she's saying it could be applied in that way. and that's the that's the dangen and that's the that's the danger. bryson danger. just like isla bryson people that, you know, people said, oh, that, you know, she never going she said, oh, that's never going to sturgeon said, to happen. nicola sturgeon said, it's to happen. it's never going to happen. nobody take that. it's never going to happen. nobithen take that. it's never going to happen. nobithen it take that. it's never going to happen. nobithen it happened. .e that. and then it happened. >> yeah, it's a slippery slope. it really is. and i read a really interesting article, actually, photographer really interesting article, actualbailey's photographer really interesting article, actualbailey's son,)tographer really interesting article, actualbailey's son, who apher really interesting article, actualbailey's son, who was r david bailey's son, who was thinking transitioning, david bailey's son, who was thin he; transitioning, david bailey's son, who was thin he was transitioning, david bailey's son, who was thin he was he transitioning, david bailey's son, who was thin he was he was, itioning, david bailey's son, who was thin he was he was, you ing, david bailey's son, who was thin he was he was, you know, in and he was he was, you know, in his teens . he said, his early teens. and he said, thankfully , he realised he was thankfully, he realised he was going through adolescence . but going through adolescence. but he spoke to a close adult he he spoke to a close adult friends who were saying , look, friends who were saying, look, this isn't the right thing. you're just going through adolescence. they adolescence. and he said they were right. he's were completely right. and he's so for that . looking so grateful for that. looking back, amazing article . back, it's an amazing article. and know , this is you know, and you know, this is you know, you've got to realise this is biological facts. it's actually quite dangerous as well . i mean, quite dangerous as well. i mean, men, men, if you give a man beetroot it affects you very differently to what you do. for a woman with all their blood pressure and other things. there are medically as

are so many things medically as well is, you know, well which which is, you know, a real slippery slope. and i really agree suella. i'm really agree with suella. i'm with her all the way on this. >> can you not see andy, that whilst it is well—meaning and no one's isn't, but one's saying that it isn't, but the that when it is the point is that when it is appued the point is that when it is applied somebody trans applied to somebody who's trans and parent, to me as a and you as a parent, to me as a parent, talking to my daughter, if know, she's if she, you know, she's she's she's going she's young, she may be going through adolescence, which a lot of saying, oh, i was of them end up saying, oh, i was going i going through adolescence. i wish done this to wish i hadn't done all this to myself, to get her myself, even just to get her to wait longer till she's wait for a bit longer till she's a over that age. then a teenager over that age. then she can do what she likes. surely should be. that needs surely it should be. that needs to . to be considered. >> yeah. but again, the >> well, yeah. but again, the legislation designed for legislation is designed for those kind of extreme fundamentalist, whether it's churches mosques whomever, churches or mosques or whomever, these extreme fundamentalists that i don't think gay that go, i don't think gay people should exist. i don't think trans people should exist. so going to you a so we're going to send you to a specific conversion therapy program. this is what that legislation is designed to combat i think it's combat against. and i think it's quite of suella quite just reductive of suella to kind of go, oh, well, it'll destroy my ability to conversate with my son or daughter, but it doesn't. but you see. >> but okay, so the reason why

okay, so i think that these two things being conflated things are being conflated because one is a sexual orientation where one is actually an actual biological thing, right? so sexual orientation in any people should be to free do whatever they like in terms of sexual orientation. and nobody should be converting or doing so. i think that that is clear to me. that is absolutely clear. it's not for me to you, oh, you me to tell you, oh, you shouldn't gay, because that's shouldn't be gay, because that's up but you're up to you. but when you're talking about biological reality, someone believes reality, when someone believes that they're a man and they're not, and you're saying to them they're can be seen they're not, that can be seen as conversion and think conversion therapy. and i think that the difference as well. >> but that's not the >> but that's not what the legislation designed legislation is designed for. no, but legislation designed but the legislation is designed for programs. for those extreme programs. that's for. that's what it's designed for. their interpretation is wrong encompass will encompass those things. it will i going to have encompass those things. it will i policeman going to have encompass those things. it will i policeman knockingig to have encompass those things. it will i policeman knocking on:o have encompass those things. it will i policeman knocking on:o hidooi’ a policeman knocking on the door going, that going, you told your child that they trans, you're they can't be trans, you're going prison. going to prison. >> know? do you see >> how do you know? do you see now this trans thing is, i can assure you. assure you. >> e they won't w— >> have you seen they won't be doing that. >> the way it's >> they won't be the way it's been, really gains. listen riley >> they won't be the way it's been, rhad' gains. listen riley >> they won't be the way it's been, rhad to ains. listen riley >> they won't be the way it's been, rhad to actuallyen riley >> they won't be the way it's been, rhad to actually paidley >> they won't be the way it's been, rhad to actually paid ay >> they won't be the way it's been, rhad to actually paid a an

gaines had to actually paid a an athlete going to refused athlete who was going to refused to part in an event because to take part in an event because this man was going take this man was going to take it apart right apart and against a woman. right we there's a six foot we can see there's a six foot tall leah. leah what's her name? leah. thomas. against woman. leah. thomas. against a woman. and saying , oh, and people are saying, oh, there's women can compete there's two women can compete against each other. anybody with against each other. anybody with a brain in their head would look and say, that's ridiculous, but they're that's they're not seeing that. that's they're not seeing that. that's the they're not seeing the point. they're not seeing what the point. they're not seeing whtbut can see, i mean, your >> but you can see, i mean, your biological men stronger. biological men are stronger. it's me playing football it's like me playing football against know , against my ex—husband, you know, it's madness. >> well, it is madness. let's see what the viewers think, though. gb views and gb news. com get in touch now. hopefully i some of those out i can read some of those out after break. live after the break. we're live on tv, online, radio, on tv, online, on digital radio, on the round up time the way. we'll round up time lady victoria hervey will be here give latest from here to give us the latest from behind palace walls. but behind the palace walls. but up next, time for the great next, it's time for the great british debate this hour. and i'm sunak i'm asking, is rishi sunak right? under right? is our democracy under threat? up right threat? i've got a pull up right now on x asking you that very question. rishi right? question. is rishi sunak right? is democracy under threat? is that democracy under threat? you email gbviews@gbnews.com you can email gbviews@gbnews.com or tweet me at .

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of decency and respect. well rishi sunak's comments followed george galloway's controversial win in rochdale in the by—election this week, which the prime minister described as beyond alarming . beyond alarming. >> galloway says the prime minister is playing a very dangerous game. i think it's called democracy . that could called democracy. that could drive young muslims into extreme ism. but the response from other parties has been more mixed. the liberal democrats have accused the prime minister of sowing seeds division, labour seeds of division, but labour leader starmer said leader sir keir starmer said rishi sunak is right to call for the to unite and to the country to unite and to condemn what he called unacceptable intimidating unacceptable and intimidating behaviour. so for great behaviour. so for the great british this hour, i'm british debate, this hour, i'm asking right ? british debate, this hour, i'm asking right? is asking is rishi sunak right? is our democracy under threat? well, now, lib well, joining me now, former lib dem minister norman baker, ukip leader henry bolton and also analyst and policy analyst raqeeb hassan . you're a former raqeeb hassan. you're a former leader by the way, henry. yeah, yeah. you're not you're not the leader now. no. right i'm going to start with you, norman baker. what are your thoughts ? what are your thoughts? >> well, it's got a point that democracy is under threat, but it's under threat partly from

democracy is under threat, but it's actions hreat partly from democracy is under threat, but it's actions andt partly from democracy is under threat, but it's actions and the rtly from democracy is under threat, but it's actions and the actions] democracy is under threat, but it's actions and the actions of his actions and the actions of his actions and the actions of his own party. >> um, let's remember that nobody elected rishi sunak as prime minister. >> nobody elected liz truss as prime minister. >> that's not very democratic. >> that's not very democratic. >> he's been busy changing the rules for voting at polling stations to disadvantage those who are predominantly younger and unlikely to vote conservative. >> his was a party he supported that prorogued parliament illegally in order to try and stop mps having a vote on what the government was doing , and the government was doing, and he's weakened. >> the freedom of information act. so yes, it's under threat , act. so yes, it's under threat, but it's under threat from him and his party, and it really doesn't count , uh, when he comes doesn't count, uh, when he comes out with this bilge last night, another another launch, another relaunch. how many relaunches have you had ? he was a changed have you had? he was a changed candidate a couple of weeks ago. that's the board. this that's gone by the board. this is something need is something new. what we need to have right in the sense to have is right in the sense he's right, that we need to deal with um, of course we with extremist. um, of course we do. extremism is in do. but the extremism part is in his party. he won't deal do. but the extremism part is in his that.arty. he won't deal do. but the extremism part is in his that. he. he won't deal do. but the extremism part is in his that. he won'ton't deal do. but the extremism part is in his that. he won't call deal do. but the extremism part is in

his that. he won't call iteal do. but the extremism part is in his that. he won't call it out. with that. he won't call it out. >> thank you very >> interesting. thank you very much for that. former ukip leader henry bolton. much for that. former ukip lea well,3nry bolton. much for that. former ukip lea well, iiry bolton. much for that. former ukip lea well, i watchedl. much for that. former ukip lea well, i watched the speech or >> well, i watched the speech or the address with interest, obviously, and i thought he started off quite well. >> he described the situation as i think most of us have been trying to describe it for months , if not years. so finally, the prime minister sent the signal that he grasps what's going on. >> the problem then, though, was that in terms of action points , that in terms of action points, all we got from him was, i've had a word with the police. >> i've told you universities that they should ideally stop extremist activities on their campuses as we're doubling the effort on prevent, and we should all stick together. >> um, you know , that was a big >> um, you know, that was a big let down. the country sees a problem . problem. >> the prime minister sees a problem . parliament sees a problem. parliament sees a problem. parliament sees a problem . it's time we actually problem. it's time we actually deau problem. it's time we actually dealt with it . and this is a dealt with it. and this is a prime minister who made this address just a day after we had eye—watering figures saying that we've issued 1.4 million in work

visas or plus or including dependents and family members. look, we have import covid foreign conflicts into this country. we have turned a blind eye to political islam and another thing that worried me about the prime minister's speech and why i don't think that, you know, his words were good, but it's not going anywhere . is that he he was anywhere. is that he he was appeasing people straight away in that by talking about the far right extremism. it's not the far right who are taking control of the streets. it's not the far right that is in our cities. >> no, no, he has to get this in proportion. well, he to proportion. well, he has to balance it because he's talking about extremes on both and about extremes on both ends. and he's is right in he's right and he is right in that sense. doctor raqib hassan . that sense. doctor raqib hassan. >> well, to be honest, nana, i thought the speech was laughable. >> uh, it was framed as some kind of emergency intervention after a by—election in rochdale. >> and i think truthfully , the >> and i think truthfully, the real threat to british democracy is when you have a super wealthy prime minister. >> um , talking in front of

>> um, talking in front of number 10 and labour eyeing the result of a legal democratic exercise in his own country as horrifying , i think what would horrifying, i think what would have really , uh, strengthened have really, uh, strengthened our democracy if the prime minister came out last night and said , listen, we're going to pay said, listen, we're going to pay attention these results. said, listen, we're going to pay attethere's these results. said, listen, we're going to pay attethere's clearly results. said, listen, we're going to pay attethere's clearly rising;. said, listen, we're going to pay attethere's clearly rising anti >> there's clearly rising anti establishment sentiments in left out communities across the country . we're going to engage country. we're going to engage with those legitimate sources of political disaffection. and instead national distrust. and i think in terms of the prime minister, i'll make the point that he's ultimately at number 10 as the result of a parliament tea party vote. >> uh, so think that he >> uh, so i think that he doesn't much of to doesn't have much of a leg to stand if serious about stand on if he's serious about highlighting of our stand on if he's serious about high democracy of our stand on if he's serious about high democracy . of our own democracy. >> um, yeah. but he would argue that what he's pointing out is the situation. and i think his main was a lot the main focus was a lot of the pro—palestinian protests and the way those the behaviour on those marches was threatening or taking advantage or kind of weaponizing our democracy against us. so freedom of speech, freedom of speech, that didn't seem to be any barriers to that. so he pointed out the

protection on the, on the, on big ben raqib . big ben raqib. >> no, no, absolutely. and even we've talked before about the anti semitic chanting, the displaying of pro terror paraphernalia at pro—palestine demonstrations , but equally that demonstrations, but equally that the calls to ban these protests. >> i think that would be anti democratic as well. it would be a fundamental assault on freedom of so there has to be of assembly. so there has to be some kind of balancing act. the reality we have laws in reality is nana we have laws in place where we could the police could take action. robust law and order approach towards that kind of behaviour. so i think that we have those laws place that we have those laws in place and think we should find out and i think we should find out why law and order approach why the law and order approach towards very problematic towards that very problematic behaviours that protest. why behaviours of that protest. why that hasn't place. yeah, that hasn't taken place. yeah, yeah. >> norman. right though >> norman. was he right though to out all that with to point out all of that with regard protests ? or do regard to the protests? or do you again, it's bit too you think again, it's a bit too little, late? and actually, little, too late? and actually, why earlier? why didn't he do that earlier? >> well , i why didn't he do that earlier? >> well, i agree why didn't he do that earlier? >> well , i agree with last >> well, i agree with the last comment there are laws comment that there are laws in place with unacceptable place to deal with unacceptable behaviour to the behaviour, and it's up to the police enforce the law, but

police to enforce the law, but it's not the answer to start banning from peaceful and banning people from peaceful and legitimate demonstrations about matters to which they feel , uh, matters to which they feel, uh, very strong part of our you know what this country is based on the right to freedom of speech . the right to freedom of speech. it's something this channel has championed, and we have to be able to champion that. and people should be free to speak and march as they want within the law . um, so cutting them the law. um, so cutting them down, options is not the down, their options is not the answer. so he wasn't right in the that he wants to clamp the sense that he wants to clamp down on demonstrations. that's not at all. he needs to not right at all. he needs to take different view on the not right at all. he needs to take aboutrent view on the not right at all. he needs to take about the view on the not right at all. he needs to take about the farw on the not right at all. he needs to take about the far right the not right at all. he needs to take about the far right .1e not right at all. he needs to take about the far right. i! point about the far right. i think if you speak to the head of mi5 think if you speak to the head of m15 or the mi five will tell you there a serious threat you there is a serious threat from far right extremism in this country which be dealt country which needs to be dealt with. uh, and so it's not let's not underplay that . uh, and the not underplay that. uh, and the other point want make, nana other point i want to make, nana very i can, is this, very briefly, if i can, is this, um point about um, you know, the point about rochdale is important, george galloway got more votes than the conservative, labour and liberal democrat candidates put together

, and rochdale is not as muslim dominated in terms of the population as, for example, bethnal green and bow , where he bethnal green and bow, where he previously won a by—election lots of people who are not muslim voted for george galloway because lots of people are horrified by what the israeli defence force is doing in palestine, and that's not being reflected any the reflected by any of the political reflected by any of the polall|l reflected by any of the polall right, henry walton, >> all right, henry walton, you've got about 20s word. you've got about 20s final word. >> the issue is not >> i mean, the issue is not the rochdale by—election, the issue here that triggered here and the one that triggered the i think, is the prime minister i think, is the prime minister i think, is the risk, the threat to our parliamentary democracy . and parliamentary democracy. and thatis parliamentary democracy. and that is primarily not coming from the right wing, although there a serious from there is a serious threat from there is a serious threat from the wing. i understand the right wing. i understand that, but this that, i accept that, but this particular issue is coming from islamist political islam, and that needs to be addressed . and that needs to be addressed. and i was disappointed not to see concrete action coming out of no one's mentioned keir starmer, which i find interesting. >> none of you mentioned keir starmer what happened in starmer and what happened in parliament. wondering parliament. i was wondering whether finally whether you would. so finally then isn't then i ask you all. yes. isn't it. no. or how he's it. yeah. well no. or how he's managing to slither under the radar. okay. so norman baker, is

managing to slither under the radtdemocracy norman baker, is managing to slither under the radtdemocracy underan baker, is managing to slither under the radtdemocracy under threat?r, is managing to slither under the radtdemocracy under threat? yes our democracy under threat? yes or no? >> from the prime minister >> yes. from the prime minister and from the uselessness of the labour also to you, henry labour party also to you, henry bolton. >> yes or no? yes. it is. and raqib. yes or no ? raqib. yes or no? >> yes. from a variety of threats. >> all right. thank you. so much to all of you. brilliant stuff . to all of you. brilliant stuff. that's henry bolton, former ukip leader ricky bassam, leader. ricky bassam, social policy . and norman policy analyst. and norman baken policy analyst. and norman baker, former liberal democrat minister. for your minister. thank you for your thoughts. right is gb thoughts. right well, this is gb news tv, online and news on tv, online and on digital coming up, we'll digital radio. coming up, we'll continue with the great british debate i'm is debate this hour. i'm asking is rishi sunak right? is our democracy under threat ? you'll democracy under threat? you'll hear of my panel. hear the thoughts of my panel. trade andy mcdonald trade unionist andy mcdonald and broadcaster and commentator lizzie cundy. so to come my difficult conversation . jason difficult conversation. jason gale will be revealing the journey of an idea to a business and the hardships that appear on the road to success. but first, let's latest news let's get your latest news headunes let's get your latest news headlines tatiana sanchez . nana. >> thank you. your top stories

from the gb news room. dozens of pro—palestine marches are taking place in towns and cities across the uk. this weekend. after rishi sunak called on organisers not to let extremists hijack protests . in a speech delivered protests. in a speech delivered from downing street last night, he called for the nation to unite, warning that islamist extremists and far right groups are spreading poison and trying to tear us apart. it followed george galloway's controversial win in the rochdale by—election this week, which the prime minister described as beyond alarming . the us military has alarming. the us military has carried out its first airdrop of aid into gaza. it comes after the deaths of palestinians queuing for food brought renewed attention to the growing humanitarian catastrophe . humanitarian catastrophe. president biden says he hopes to see a ceasefire agreement between israel and hamas before the start of ramadan. on the 10th of march. police are investigating after three people were injured in a shooting in an

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democracy under threat? the prime minister gave a speech from downing street last night, warning extremists are warning that extremists are trying to tear us apart , not trying to tear us apart, not want us to doubt ourselves, to doubt each other, to doubt our country's history and achievements. >> they want to us accept a moral equivalence between britain and some of the most despicable regimes in the world. let us prove these extremists wrong and show them that even when we disagree, we will never be disunited from our common values of decency and respect . values of decency and respect. >> so, rishi sunak's comments followed george galloway's controversial win in rochdale in the by—election this week. uh, galloway responded by warning the prime minister is playing a very dangerous game that could drive young muslims into extremism . but the response from extremism. but the response from other been mixed. so other parties has been mixed. so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking, is rishi sunak right? is our democracy under threat for joining me to discuss? got lizzie cundy discuss? i've got lizzie cundy and also andy macdonald . um, and also andy macdonald. um, i'll go to lizzie cundy first.

ah i'll let him off. you let him off sucking on a boiled sweet . off sucking on a boiled sweet. you gave it to him. >> boiled sweet for him. it was a trick. my many tricks. a trick. one of my many tricks. very good. listen. yes, rishi was was right and i was pleased. he spoke. it's the first time i've seen him so passionate and strong and statesmanlike. but i just feel it's all too late now. now, why didn't he do this earlier? i i really we needed him to do this earlier. um, look , people are sick of being intimidated , and they're sick of intimidated, and they're sick of the threats . i am definitely the threats. i am definitely sick of feeling scared in my own city. um, you know, we can't have these hate marches where they're chanting to the river, to the sea for those words to be projected onto big ben. where was he before then ? he knew was he before then? he knew this. what is happening on our streets? the locals are scared . streets? the locals are scared. my jewish friends leave every weekend . i have a family who are weekend. i have a family who are jewish that are now leaving the country . they feel they more

country. they feel they more safe in israel than in london in, uh. >> well, it's interesting what our panellists said because they said that actually he's the reason why democracy is under threat. of all, he's threat. first of all, he's unelected . uh, truss. well, unelected. uh, liz truss. well, she voted in and then they she was voted in and then they just got of her, didn't just got rid of her, didn't they? pretty much. um, what do you think? >> fairness, truss resign. >> well, she had to resign. >> well, she had to resign. >> yeah, because she did throw out chancellor. >> yeah, because she did throw out no,incellor. >> yeah, because she did throw out no, she.lor. >> yeah, because she did throw out no, she had resign. >> no, no, she had to resign. >> no, no, she had to resign. >> because she did tank >> she did, because she did tank the the mortgage >> she did, because she did tank the so, the mortgage >> she did, because she did tank the so, you the mortgage >> she did, because she did tank the so, you know,1ortgage >> she did, because she did tank the so, you know, itrtgage >> she did, because she did tank the so, you know, it wasje rates. so, you know, it was about that. anyway anyway, uh, rishi sunak stop in. rishi sunak to stop that in. >> well truss did resign. >> well liz truss did resign. she resign. she did resign. >> finish. now she did. >> let me finish. now she did. yeah. she may have resigned but she resign. for she had to resign. and as for tanking pound, people tanking the pound, people would argue have gone argue that it would have gone that carry on. that way anyway. carry on. >> would be wrong to >> and people would be wrong to argue anyway, argue that. well, but anyway, you know. well, no, we but you don't know. well, no, we but what we do is that she was what we do know is that she was the minister when the the prime minister when the pound lot of pound tanked. and then a lot of mortgages mortgage mortgages were mortgage offers were revoked because the interest up because interest rates went up because of mini—budget, which they interest rates went up because of to mini—budget, which they interest rates went up because of to go nini—budget, which they interest rates went up because of to go up —budget, which they interest rates went up because of to go up and dget, which they interest rates went up because of to go up and would /hich they interest rates went up because of to go up and would have they interest rates went up because of to go up and would have gone up. >> so she was a handy scapegoat. anyway, let's get on with this anyway.

>> anyway, um, back what was >> anyway, um, back to what was the was the question. the question was rishi democracy. rishi sunak and democracy. you know, said, he is an know, like you said, he is an unelected minister. unelected prime minister. >> you finish >> you know, i let you finish that could have you that tweet. i could have got you there. here's an unelected >> here's a here's an unelected prime minister like you said. you he's selected by you know, he's been selected by a conservative mps, not a group of conservative mps, not even membership of his even by the membership of his own alone own party, let alone the electorate talk about electorate at. and we talk about democracy eroded. democracy has been eroded. that's what he's saying. he's identifying problems. that's what he's saying. he's identiwhoi problems. that's what he's saying. he's identiwhoi been problems. that's what he's saying. he's identiwhoi been p|government that's what he's saying. he's ide the rhoi been p|government that's what he's saying. he's idethe last been p|government that's what he's saying. he's ide the last 14 been p|government that's what he's saying. he's ide the last 14 years p|government that's what he's saying. he's ide the last 14 years and)vernment for the last 14 years and steward the steward this erosion of democracy? >> about >> well, what about your the conservative what conservative party? well, what about the labour party then, with happened with the issues that happened the on that the other week, on that wednesday lindsay wednesday where, uh, lindsay hoyle was clearly pressurised in some of reconfigure hoyle was clearly pressurised in sonway of reconfigure hoyle was clearly pressurised in sonway things of reconfigure hoyle was clearly pressurised in sonway things worked configure hoyle was clearly pressurised in sonway things worked and gure hoyle was clearly pressurised in sonway things worked and sort the way things worked and sort of avoided snp's question, of avoided the snp's question, what democracy. >> extent. democracy. >> uh, to an extent. well, it's parliamentary procedure. it's not democracy. it's set not direct democracy. it's a set of it's democracy. >> well, is part of our >> well, it is part of our democracy. swayed democracy. and it was swayed because apparently is because of fear of apparently is extremism, which is the excuse that used well, the rules of that he used well, the rules of an being slightly an opposition day being slightly changed irrelevant . changed is quite irrelevant. >> day. it >> it's an opposition day. it wasn't legislative wasn't even a legislative motion. it was a solidarity motion. it was a solidarity motion. should be brought motion. it should be brought to task. slippery stuff. say why? >> you slippery stuff. say why?

>> you slippery stuff. say why? >> that will >> i assume that an mp will report him to standards report him to the standards committee will be an inquiry. >> assume mps have >> i assume almost 90 mps have signed gained a vote of no confidence in sir lindsay. >> 90 out of many mps are there? >> well, there are about 656 51 if you include him and you only need was only 20 need last time it was only 20 mps that triggered what mps that triggered and what happened in rochdale is a disgrace. >> disgrace. » m disgrace. >> did. well they it >> what labour did. well they it was a poor selection process. the uk model of democracy is the uk model of our democracy is totally broken and rochdale just proved that and i know it had a low turnout . but for them to low turnout. but for them to vote for someone that pretends to be a cat rather than three established parties is a very sad state of affairs . and i'm sad state of affairs. and i'm very worried for this country . very worried for this country. >> well, listen, this show is nothing without you and your views. let's welcome our great british the show, british voice onto the show, their opportunity and their opportunity to be on and tell us what they think about the topics we're discussing. tell us what they think about the t0jshould re discussing. tell us what they think about the t0jshould weiiscussing. tell us what they think about the t0jshould weiiscito?ng. go to where should we go to? we go to bristol. first on bristol. i wanted to first on that no, there's no matter what that. no, there's no matter what happened to the map. said no, i love that man. all right, let's go harris. there in go to lee harris. he's there in bristol. harris , no map.

bristol. lee harris, no map. lee. map. lee. all right, go lee. no map. lee. all right, go on then. lee. what do you think? is our democracy threat? is our democracy under threat? >> yes. you know , i listened to >> yes. you know, i listened to rishi sunaks speech and i admit, you know, were points you know, there were points where i nodding along. where i was nodding along. >> be honest, he >> but let's be honest, he should have made this speech a ages most of it was ages ago. and most of it was useless. waffle. and what struck me was essentially that he echoed the sentiments of suella braverman and lee anderson, who he stupid lee sacked. i think he should apologise and reinstate them both , to be honest. but them both, to be honest. but even though it was late, he is essentially right. i believe our democracy is under threat. i don't think it's terminal. um, but the threat is clearly there. i mean, you only have to look at what happened in the house of commons. as we know, lindsay hoyle broke long standing convention literally changed convention and literally changed the way govern parliamentary the way we govern parliamentary debates because mps being debates because mps are being threatened and intimidated by far left extremists. uh, by the far left extremists. uh, by the far left extremists. uh, by the far left and islamist extremists . um, then all we have to do is

look at the rochdale by—election where it was reported that candidates , uh, were subject to, candidates, uh, were subject to, uh , death threats, racist abuse , uh, death threats, racist abuse, threats of violence, intimidation , and a candidate intimidation, and a candidate was refused entry into the hustings. and every single weekend, as we know that london is taken over by hate marches and, you know, in my view, this is all thanks to sadiq khan and mark rowley, who've taken a soft touch, hands off approach and it's their unforgivable. two tier policing that has empowered the mob. these extremists think they are untouchable, nana and effectively they are. all of this is a direct threat to our democracy , and it's getting democracy, and it's getting worse due to weak leadership and dangerous , useless two tier policing. >> well, listen, i would agree with you. there's weak leadership, but that weak leader, even he wasn't really in our democracy, elected by the people. listen, lee harris , people. listen, lee harris, thank you very much. always a pleasure . he's a great british pleasure. he's a great british voice. thank you so much. good to talk you again. this is gb to talk to you again. this is gb news on online on news on tv, online and on digital radio. nana akua

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- i so, -- so, 49 minutes after 4:00. it's fast approaching. i'm nana akua this is gb news. there's always something going on in the royal household. and this week has been no different. and every saturday i love to give you a rundown. who better to do so rundown. and who better to do so than socialite lady victoria hervey? uh so lady victoria, right? so let's start with prince william. he missed a memorial for his godfather , the memorial for his godfather, the late king constantine . late king constantine. >> right. and that for him to have done that so last minute, it was obviously something pretty serious. and then of course, we found out about that,

um, the death of lady gabriella s husband, thomas kingston. and i think that is possibly the connection . connection. >> i don't believe it is related to kate. i know that was there was a statement put out , um, by was a statement put out, um, by the palace on her, but i don't believe it was at all related to her. >> i think it was thomas kingston, for sure. >> are they close? were they close? because, you know, is that his cousin? >> i think i think they're close. >> um, i mean , if you think >> um, i mean, if you think about it, william's you know, related to gabriella and i, and they're the same age with the husband. >> i, you know, i'm sure that they were they were good friends, you know, so that was quite a shock. and i think the way that he possibly died was also quite shock. >> so , i mean, the way they've >> so, i mean, the way they've worded it here is that he had a catastrophic head injury . catastrophic head injury. >> and then they said that they found a gun close to his body . found a gun close to his body. so it's very tragic. >> yeah . it sounds i think, you >> yeah. it sounds i think, you know, there's a lot of that

going on. um, and i think for men, especially suicide is very high at the moment. >> well, i mean, it doesn't say that that's what it is. um, but i presume some people will will, you know , presume take from this you know, presume take from this information they said no one else involved, that that may else was involved, that that may well it hasn't been well be that, but it hasn't been clarified that wording. clarified in that exact wording. but let's let's move on to kate now . oh, i don't know, actually. now. oh, i don't know, actually. should we go for prince harry? i suddenly thought prince suddenly thought about prince harry. kate. so harry. let's do kate. kate. so what about kate? what do you know? >> well, you know , so what i've >> well, you know, so what i've sort of made out from every thing that has happened to her and the resting period and her sort of losing weight before. i think it's quite clear that it's possibly crohn's disease . possibly crohn's disease. >> oh, you don't know that, though. there's no i don't know that. >> no, no, no, this is not this is this is just like my theory. she just making it super clear. this is this is a theory. but which is not something deadly. you know, something that you know, it's something that you from . i've you recover from. i've had friends have it, and

friends that have had it, and it's kind of a similar it's just kind of a similar thing because you have to take a couple of months off, because you have have you literally have to have part of your lower intestine, of your bowel, lower intestine, uh, so you uh, taken out. um, so you literally are on bed rest for a couple of months. so that could explain the fact that she has to just completely rest, but she will make a complete full recovery. it's not something life threatening at all. >> but but that's if you're right. but yeah, that is i am right. but yeah, that is i am right . right. >> right. >> right. >> um, she's a very slim. anyway isn't she. >> so no no, no, but it just if you have crohn's, you you lose weight, right? it's not like you're trying to lose weight. so so, um, but it's almost like if that what it is , it's almost that is what it is, it's almost better that they do put, put out that statement there's that statement because there's so ridiculous speculation, so much ridiculous speculation, you internet sort of you know, that internet sort of going wild with ridiculous theories . yeah. theories. yeah. >> well, the thing is, they went crazy as well because after that william then had a whisky in wales and that became, how can you have a whisky in wales? because he's just, you know,

he's engagement he's cancelled an engagement and now gone off to have a now he's gone off to have a whisky and, the thing is, whisky and, and the thing is, you know, the royal family has been honest as far as, been quite honest as far as, like king charles's health. >> so i think if it was something sort of deadly, you know, they would have but know, they would have said but actually make a full actually she will make a full recovery. not something recovery. it's not something thatis recovery. it's not something that is going you know , kill that is going to, you know, kill you. you can very happily like, live with it. so >> well, i mean, let's hope it's nothing too serious and that she can recover it quite easily can recover from it quite easily . that obviously speculation. can recover from it quite easily . tidon'tobviously speculation. can recover from it quite easily . tidon't know. sly speculation. can recover from it quite easily . tidon't know. butpeculation. can recover from it quite easily . tidon't know. but what ation. can recover from it quite easily . tidon't know. but what do>n. can recover from it quite easily . tidon't know. but what do you we don't know. but what do you know about the duke of sussex? because apparently he's won his right files in because apparently he's won his righhacking files in because apparently he's won his righhacking claim. files in because apparently he's won his righhacking claim. soles in because apparently he's won his righhacking claim. so himn because apparently he's won his righhacking claim. so him so the hacking claim. so him so duke of sussex and sir elton john are to be given secret documents the leveson documents from the leveson inquiry to support their phone hacking claim against daily hacking claim against the daily mail after decision the mail after a decision by the government . gosh, wow . government. gosh, wow. >> well, i, um, i haven't, i haven't sort of followed the very latest on it . haven't sort of followed the very latest on it. i haven't sort of followed the very latest on it . i feel like very latest on it. i feel like there's so much going on as far as the phone hacking and his various different lawsuits that he has. um well, he's lost the

one with the home office, hasn't he? and his protection , which he? and his protection, which you know, he doesn't really even come back here that often, does he , to need it? he, to need it? >> well, the thing is, if you were in the royal family and then you decide that you don't want in the royal family, want to be in the royal family, problem exactly the same. he problem is exactly the same. he wants the best both worlds. wants the best of both worlds. >> and that not really >> yeah, and that is not really possible do that, especially possible to do that, especially right family needs right now. like the family needs more the family to be more members of the family to be actually working royals because they need some help. >> mhm . do you think there's >> mhm. do you think there's ever chance that they would ever a chance that they would that harry in particular would be in this country as be accepted in this country as a. yeah. do you think. >> i think so, i think people are very forgiving um but it are very forgiving and um but it will be, it'll be a lot of work for him to do and i hope he does start spending a little bit more time with his father, you know, because at the crucial time of his when her health his grandmother, when her health was not very good, he was not making much an effort, was he making much of an effort, was he ? so hopefully it will be more than a 30 minute, 45 minutes

with his father . mhm. with his father. mhm. >> and i think we read that also sarah focussed on her cancer hasn't spread, which is a really good thing. it hasn't spread outside to anything else. so that's good. that's what i think you know as i've said she's. >> yeah she's a super strong person and she bounces back really fast. >> so yeah . yeah. >> so yeah. yeah. >> so yeah. yeah. >> lady victoria hervey always a pleasure. thank you so much for joining me. um, that is lady victoria hervey giving us an update on the royal family and her suspicions what may her suspicions as to what may well wrong with catherine. well be wrong with catherine. so, what do you think? gb views gbnews.com. or tweet me @gbnews. you can also get in touch via our website . and don't forget to our website. and don't forget to stay tuned, because on the way i have a very special guest . um, have a very special guest. um, he is. his name is jason gale and he set up something called the lifestyle awards. we will hear his story next. stay tuned . hear his story next. stay tuned. this is . gb news. this is. gb news. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb

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to let extremists hijack protests. in his to let extremists hijack protests . in his speech, protests. in his speech, delivered from downing street last night, he called for the nafion last night, he called for the nation to unite, warning that islamist extremists and far right groups are spreading poison and trying to tear us apart . it followed george apart. it followed george galloway's controversial win in the rochdale by—election this week, which the prime minister described as beyond alarming . described as beyond alarming. >> the rochdale by—election returned a candidate who dismisses the horror of what happened on october the 7th, who glorifies hezbollah and is endorsed by nick griffin, the racist former leader of the bnp . racist former leader of the bnp. ineed racist former leader of the bnp. i need to speak to you all this evening because this situation has gone on long enough and demands a response not just from government, but from all of us. the us military has carried out its first airdrop of aid into gaza. >> it comes after the deaths of palestinians queuing for food brought renewed attention to the growing humanitarian catastrophe

. president biden says he hopes to see a ceasefire agreement between israel and hamas before the start of ramadan on the 10th of march. police are investigating after three people were injured in a shooting in an area of london. popular with bars and restaurants. two women were inside a pub when they were hit by shotgun pellets after a suspect dropped a firearm during a police pursuit in clapham. a third person was injured by the moped. they've all now been released from hospital . now released from hospital. now towns within commuting distance of a major cities have seen some of a major cities have seen some of the biggest rent rises in recent years. newly published research by property website zoopla shows that rents have risen by more than a third in some towns. bolton, new port and bradford have seen sharp increases and they're all within short commuting distances from major cities . the company says major cities. the company says that while city rents are rising fastest, a affordability pressures are pushing more people further out . a fashion

people further out. a fashion show hosted by victoria beckham at paris fashion week was disrupted yesterday by the animal rights group peta. activists were seen taking to the stage during the show and walking alongside the runway models holding signs that said viva vegan leather . the models holding signs that said viva vegan leather. the group explained that while ms beckham's fashion brand has stopped using fur and exotic skins, they claim it still uses leather obtained via methods it says are cruel. the group has also targeted brands including burberry and fendi . the show burberry and fendi. the show continued after the protest . a continued after the protest. a section of the famous sycamore gap tree is to return to public view as part of a display at a discovery centre. the much loved 200 year old tree was a popular attraction for visitors to hadrian's wall in northumbria , hadrian's wall in northumbria, but it was found cut down in mysterious circumstances last yean mysterious circumstances last year, sparking a national outcry. northumberland national park says it received more than 2000 heartfelt messages from all over the world, and the largest

section of the tree will now form part of a display at the cecil discovery centre near newcastle, which is expected to be in place from september. now fashion icon iris apfel has died at her home in florida at the age of 102. known for her distinctive glasses and fun , no distinctive glasses and fun, no nonsense approach to fashion , nonsense approach to fashion, she founded the luxury company old world weavers with her husband in 1950, and she went on to lead a long career in fashion . at the age of 97, she signed a major modelling contract with global agency img , just a year global agency img, just a year after a limited edition barbie doll was created in her image . doll was created in her image. and the best of britain's music industry a gathering in london for this year's brit awards includes the princess of pop . includes the princess of pop. everybody's doing a brand new dance now , so come on, ready to dance now, so come on, ready to singing super star kylie minogue

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gbnews.com or tweet me at. gb news. right now it's time for this week's difficult conversation . and joining me conversation. and joining me today is the founder and ceo of the prestigious lifestyle awards, jason gale. now he founded them in 2009. the awards have garnered over 2.5 million pubuc have garnered over 2.5 million public votes and 250 awards have been presented at the lifestyle awards have become a cornerstone of recognition for the businesses shaping london's character, and jason has expanded across the uk and internationally to locations like monaco and dubai , picking like monaco and dubai, picking up partnerships with esteemed names like rolls royce and grey goose. and if you didn't know, he featured on celebrity family fortunes , securing five top fortunes, securing five top answers and winning £30,000 as a charity jackpot, i'm pleased to say that the founder of the lifestyle awards, jason gale, joins me now. jason, welcome . joins me now. jason, welcome. >> thank you just explained >> thank you. you just explained my which my proudest moment, which was a celebrity family fortune. >> really? >> oh, really? >> oh, really? >> what that like ? >> what was that like? >> what was that like? >> didn't get an urn .

>> well, i didn't get an urn. that's was delighted. yeah that's why i was delighted. yeah no, i was yeah, i was really pleased with that. >> long time ago. >> but that was a long time ago. >> but that was a long time ago. >> really? were your >> oh, really? so were your whole you or whole family there with you or whole family there with you or who your. who was in your. >> so i was with sunita's >> so i so i was with sunita's family at time. family at the time. >> so you went out with sunita. >> so you went out with sunita. >> yes. for, for a little while. >> yes. for, for a little while. >> we did. >> we did. >> yeah. really? yeah. now >> we did. >> �*marryteally? yeah. now >> we did. >> �*marry me.y? yeah. now >> we did. >> �*marry me. sorry.h. now >> we did. >> �*marry me. sorry. so now >> we did. >> �*marry me. sorry. so howw you marry me. sorry. so how quickly did it take you to. so listen , talk to me, jason. so listen, talk to me, jason. so what happened ? so what were you what happened? so what were you doing the lifestyle doing before the lifestyle awards? what was going on? um, so i had a pr company. so i was, i had a pr company. >> i was a publicist, really? >> i was a publicist, really? >> i was a publicist, really? >> i loved marketing. >> and i loved marketing. >> and i loved marketing. >> pr, but of all, >> i loved pr, but most of all, i loved london. i loved the city, and, um, i sort of, uh , city, and, um, i sort of, uh, wanted to do something to celebrate london. i really wanted to do something. >> and then i had an amazing meeting with bill clinton . meeting with bill clinton. >> oh, really? >> oh, really? >> i did, and he was trying to raise money for his foundation. and in this meeting he said london is a great city in the world. >> and then immediately try to retract it because he thought he is american president. um, is an american president. um,

and to retract it . and he wanted to retract it. >> thought, no, it is. >> and i thought, no, it is. >> and i thought, no, it is. >> this was before for the >> and this was before for the olympics before we knew >> and this was before for the o|was ics before we knew >> and this was before for the o|was as before we knew >> and this was before for the o|was a great before we knew >> and this was before for the o|was a great city. 'e we knew >> and this was before for the o|was a great city. ande knew >> and this was before for the o|was a great city. and i knew >> and this was before for the o|was a great city. and i wasnew it was a great city. and i was so with that meeting , so impressed with that meeting, excited and about excited and excited about london. i went home and wrote the treatment really for what the treatment really for what the the awards became really. >> wow, that's quite impressive . >> wow, that's quite impressive. that's that's pretty good. so why you meeting with why were you meeting with bill clinton? come? he was trying to >> how come? so he was trying to raise money for his foundation. but you there, though? but why were you there, though? um, i had people but why were you there, though? um, me i had people but why were you there, though? um, me that1ad people but why were you there, though? um, me that he people but why were you there, though? um, me that he trying)le but why were you there, though? um, me that he trying to around me that he was trying to get of. i was quite get money out of. i was quite sukh. >> where is bill clinton these days? doing? >> where is bill clinton these dayi? doing? >> where is bill clinton these dayi don't doing? >> where is bill clinton these dayi don't hear doing? >> where is bill clinton these dayi don't hear much]? >> where is bill clinton these dayi don't hear much anymore. >> where is bill clinton these day he on't hear much anymore. >> where is bill clinton these day he didn'tear much anymore. >> where is bill clinton these day he didn't call|uch anymore. >> where is bill clinton these day he didn't call me. anymore. >> where is bill clinton these day he didn't call me. so rmore. >> where is bill clinton these day he didn't call me. so indon't >> he didn't call me. so i don't know what's. >> although monica lewinsky, she's bit now. yes she's bobbing up a bit now. yes so me about how you so talk to me about how you actually went about setting it up first up and what were the first things yeah thought things you did? yeah i thought at thought this at the beginning i thought this was going a side project. >> know, my pr company. >> you know, my pr company. >> you know, my pr company. >> great. and we was >> that was great. and we was working with clubs, bars and theatres celebrities working with clubs, bars and theathings celebrities working with clubs, bars and theathings like celebrities working with clubs, bars and theathings like that. zlebrities and things like that. >> so i thought, really thought it'd be a project. it'd be a side project. >> the first awards >> but from the first awards that we did in 2010, just that we ever did in 2010, i just fell with process, fell in love with the process, fell in love with the process,

fell in love with the process, fell in love, what it could do for businesses, and my love for london even so london grew even further. so i realised within 3 or 4 years that's where my passion was. and, forget the pr bit and and, um, forget the pr bit and just focus on the awards. so yeah , the journey began. yeah, the journey began. >> a lot of people might not have heard about the lifestyle awards. >> so who is in it? who would be the contestant? >> yeah, one of the things we wanted to do , i was i was an wanted to do, i was i was an awards geek , really. awards geek, really. >> i used to go to lots of awards and i used to sit there and thinking, this is a way to, you know, pay to play almost. you could was going to you could tell who was going to win you had to win if win an award. you had to win if you table, you an you bought a table, you won an award enter, you award or you had to enter, you had pay to enter awards. had to pay to enter the awards. and get rid of all and i wanted to get rid of all that. so firstly, we wanted the pubuc that. so firstly, we wanted the public to nominate. so the pubuc public to nominate. so the public best bars, public nominated the best bars, restaurants, hotels , beauty restaurants, hotels, beauty salons, , theatre. salons, hair salons, theatre. and i wanted no cost for entrance because i just wanted to find the best of the best and that's how we started and got all these nominations through. and me and small team and then me and a small team choose top tens in each of

choose the top tens in each of the categories, and then the pubuc the categories, and then the public vote. so it's really it's a big public voting opportunity really, for them to show what their favourite businesses are . their favourite businesses are. >> oh that's quite that's nice isn't it? because a lot of the time these smaller businesses don't get a chance to be don't really get a chance to be at yeah, at awards ceremonies. and yeah, that gets everybody that sort of gets everybody interacting. how did you interacting. and how did you fare covid and all of fare during covid and all of that? because a lot of these businesses must have sort of some must have to some of them must have gone to the wall. >> @- @— >> yeah, we lost a few. we lost a few of the great businesses. um, and which huge shame. um, and which was a huge shame. we events still we managed to get events still going through covid from when we was . would. and was allowed. we would. and obviously is great and obviously the work is great and the fun and the the work is fun and the businesses were struggling, but was able support them. they was able to support them. they were supported we got were supported us. so we got through . um, but thank goodness through. um, but thank goodness thatis through. um, but thank goodness that is long gone. >> we have that's over. it's behind us, isn't it? yeah. um so your a lot of people when, when they're starting a business, um, if you hear somebody say something negative, i hate that because my mother, she could be so negative sometimes. mum. sorry. you're watching.

sorry. if you're watching. she always a always watches and gives me a critique end, but, um, critique at the end, but, um, you'd say, oh, i've got this great then somebody great idea. and then somebody sort , but you sort of says, oh, no, but you don't want to do that. did you get much of that you get get much of that or did you get a support? a lot of support? >> always. >> oh, every time always. >> oh, every time always. >> i've had several businesses over years , and every time over the years, and every time i come up with a new crazy idea , come up with a new crazy idea, people say, you know, it's never going to work. >> sometimes they're right, sometimes it doesn't work, but sometimes it doesn't work, but sometimes does . and when it sometimes it does. and when it does work, not does work, it's worth not listening i always listening to them. so i always trust my opinion more than anybody anyway anybody else's. anyway >> yeah, well, that's the same. i anyway i always trust mine. anyway yeah. i just wouldn't yeah. um, so ijust wouldn't want a friend in the older kid. oh, dear . want a friend in the older kid. oh, dear. right. jason. so talk to me . so the lifestyle awards. to me. so the lifestyle awards. yeah. how long has it been running and what would you say. how do you want to see it changing. >> so we've we've been in london for 13 years, 14 years now. we've been in london and we've done really well and it's been fantastic. that will be my fantastic. and that will be my eternal , i think. eternal passion, i think. i don't i'll ever exit it or don't think i'll ever exit it or not be involved in the london

lifestyle is my big lifestyle awards is my big passion. what we're doing , passion. but what we're doing, we're moving to other cities as well joint ventures, well through a joint ventures, through agreements . so through licensing agreements. so we're to dubai, into we're moving to dubai, into monaco , but also moving monaco, but we're also moving across the across the uk. so our first awards across the uk is going to be the leeds lifestyle awards which to do awards, which we're going to do shortly. so i just as much shortly. so i just think as much as passionate about london, as i'm passionate about london, there's cities there's people in their cities that are passionate about their cities. know, watch cities. you know, i watch football, support hull football, i go and support hull city when i talk to other city and when i talk to other football know, they football fans, you know, they talk their great city and talk about their great city and they're as passionate about their so we're giving the their city. so we're giving the opportunity for people to celebrate cities. like opportunity for people to celforate cities. like opportunity for people to celfor london. cities. like do for london. >> about sadiq khan in >> and what about sadiq khan in his then? do you think his london then? do you think he's do you think he's wrecking it? do you think he's wrecking it? do you think he's london? he's wrecking it? do you think he's would london? he's wrecking it? do you think he's would lonc say he's wrecking it? do you think he's would loncsay he's a >> i would never say he's a wreck it. i wouldn't, um, wreck in it. i wouldn't, um, i wouldn't say he's wrecking. i think he's made mistakes. um i think he's made mistakes. um i think put some energy in think he's put some energy in some areas that, um , are not in some areas that, um, are not in some areas that, um, are not in some other areas that i'd have liked to see. um, i think our hospitality industry and our nightclub industry especially needs some more support than

it's currently getting. and i think could come from the mayor's office a little bit more. um, but i don't think it's wrecking. i still love love, and i think london's an amazing city. yeah. um, i think we've got we've got some work to do. you know, i'm worried about, um, heanng you know, i'm worried about, um, hearing people in the media the last couple of days saying they don't feel safe in london. i think that's a big that's a big worry for me and something that we've to get abreast of. we've got to get abreast of. but, know, london is but, um, you know, london is still a fantastic, great city. >> well, listen, jason, if people want to find out more about the awards and you know what next, when, what you're doing next, when, when and, uh, do you when are they and, uh, do you have website something have a website or something where go? where people can go? >> our website's british lifestyle the lifestyle awards .com and the london are going to be in london awards are going to be in october this that october again this year that they and then we they always are. and then we will and on will constantly post and on insta gram and everything about when around when the other awards around the country and come country will be, and i'll come back tell you back to see you and tell you about them. >> oh, that'd amazing. an >> oh, that'd be amazing. an invite >> oh, that'd be amazing. an iane be >> oh, that'd be amazing. an invite be better. jason invite would be better. jason gayle, you very much . gayle, thank you very much. thank you. that's jason gayle, he's london he's the founder of the london

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highlighted growing dissatisfaction with mainstream politics at galloway , victory in politics at galloway, victory in rochdale and reform uk's gains in recent polls underscore for what appears to be a shift in political dynamics and a yearning for alternative voices . yearning for alternative voices. so, for the great british debate this hour , i'm asking you, this hour, i'm asking you, you're fed up with the two main parties. i'm joined now by james matthewson, former labour spokesperson and james price , ex spokesperson and james price, ex treasury special adviser and director of government relations at the hsi. that's a lot in it. all right . all right. so i'm all right. all right. so i'm going to start with you, james price . are we fed up with these price. are we fed up with these two, these two main ones as bonng two, these two main ones as boring i think i think it's fair enough to say that people are fed up with it, but i think that that's just normal function of that's just a normal function of a the fact that you're allowed >> the fact that you're allowed to complain parties to complain about parties and you up and turf them you can get fed up and turf them out of office after a certain penod out of office after a certain period time. but think that period of time. but i think that they're really important period of time. but i think that they reasons.' important period of time. but i think that they reasons. one,ortant period of time. but i think that theyreasons. one, inant period of time. but i think that theyreasons. one, in terms of few reasons. one, in terms of our parliamentary our kind of parliamentary democracy, you need to be able to command majority the

to command a majority in the house form a house in order to form a government to able government and to be able to have some kind coherent have some kind of coherent majority legislation for majority to pass legislation for that parties are majority to pass legislation for that the parties are majority to pass legislation for that the best parties are majority to pass legislation for that the best way parties are majority to pass legislation for that the best way of parties are majority to pass legislation for that the best way of doing; are still the best way of doing that, because they all tend to agree on broad ideological ideas and ideas, agree on broad ideological ideas and we ideas, agree on broad ideological ideas and we conservative aas, right? we need conservative ideas. might need ideas. for now, we might need more liberal classical liberal ideas the future. ideas for the future. >> and we don't have and >> and if we don't have that and you have a squabble, then >> and if we don't have that and you neverave a squabble, then >> and if we don't have that and you never actuallyuabble, then >> and if we don't have that and you never actually get)le, then >> and if we don't have that and you never actually get anything done would you never actually get anything done be would you never actually get anything done be able would you never actually get anything done be able to would you never actually get anything done be able to respond would you never actually get anything done be able to respond to ould you never actually get anything done be able to respond to any never be able to respond to any kind crisis. kind of crisis. >> it sounds like >> well, it just sounds like that's what we've just had, actually. you're saying actually. what you're saying that it, that as you're saying it, i'm saying that's exactly i'm saying that's exactly what i'm saying. your saying. james matthews and your thoughts. is frozen ? thoughts. oh, is he frozen? >> i think i lost you there for a second, and i can hear you again now. >> oh, you're back now. you were frozen for a moment. go for it, james. so what are your thoughts, james? >> so. i think, as >> yeah, i think so. i think, as james rightly puts it, the other james rightly puts it, the other james quite well james puts it, um, quite well is that, it's important that, you know, it's important to get fed up. >> think part of >> i think it is part of democracy. it's part of that democratic think democracy. it's part of that dedoes atic think democracy. it's part of that dedoes show think democracy. it's part of that dedoes show you think democracy. it's part of that dedoes show you that think democracy. it's part of that dedoes show you that whenink it does show you that when people get fed up, the risk is that they drift towards those extremes extreme side of extremes and the extreme side of things, know, which isn't

things, you know, which isn't set our our mainstream set up for our our mainstream political system isn't to political system isn't set up to handle that . and of course, handle that. and of course, if you systems, know, more you had systems, you know, more like pr and all the rest, which l, like pr and all the rest, which i, you know, been a bit i, you know, always been a bit torn i, you know, always been a bit tom of those torn on because of those extremes because you extremes and because you, you allow the system, allow people into the system, then more then who you know are more represented , representative of then who you know are more reprpopulationzpresentative of then who you know are more reprpopulation democratically. the population democratically. but do harbour more extreme views. that's basically what we're seeing a bit of with this, because the labour party essentially vacated that seat, um, you know, unwilling to, um, much, much to the frustration of people i've spoken to in the party this week. but at the end of the the vacated the of the day, the vacated the seat. that that that absence seat. and that that that absence of their presence allowed for george galloway to get in. and there is no doubt in my mind, george galloway is an extremist. and i think there was a poll done, this week by, done, um, earlier this week by, uh, politics relaxed and politics relaxed. and a great poll that said that young people, they asked what they thought of george galloway and said 66% of young people had negative thoughts about george galloway. think he's galloway. so i don't think he's representative new

representative of some new change in politics. >> or did they see did they see the where he a cat? do the bit where he was a cat? do you that's what put them off? >> and but this is the thing right ? right? >> those young people were probably young even probably too young to even remember because it remember that now, because it was ago. was so long ago. >> don't worry, if they'd >> well, don't worry, if they'd seen that, it might have been even seen that, it might have been eveyou never know. seen that, it might have been evewell, ever know. seen that, it might have been evewell, we're now. seen that, it might have been evewell, we're going to play >> well, we're going to play a little bit of that as a reminder to forgotten. to anyone who's forgotten. stay tuned. be coming up tuned. that'll be coming up later in show. james later on in the show. james price, said i mean, i'm price, you said i mean, i'm looking this thinking looking at this and i'm thinking , matthews had , um, james matthews had mentioned proportional representation. that ends up with little parties and with lots of little parties and hung parliaments a bit of an hung parliaments and a bit of an untidy mess . hung parliaments and a bit of an untidy mess. do you think it's time for reform? as in reform , time for reform? as in reform, not reform uk ? not reform uk? >> well, i think this is exactly the problem you see this on the continent all the time . that one continent all the time. that one party can come top and they can never near power never get anywhere near power because ganged by because they get ganged up on by lots ones, even if lots of other ones, even if there's kind of democratic there's some kind of democratic you mandate for it. you would say mandate for it. >> the problem that you >> this is the problem that you end with politicians doing end up with politicians doing exactly really, exactly what the public really, really is kind of really hates, which is kind of grubby deals to build

grubby backroom deals to build coalitions where they trade off the they care as the things they don't care as much about. the things they don't care as mu they out. the things they don't care as mu they put stuff their >> they put stuff into their manifestos, they'll manifestos, knowing they'll trade negotiations to trade it away in negotiations to form coalitions and things like that. >> i think that's completely wrong. >> that's why i think that first past the post still the best past the post is still the best way this. and i think that way to do this. and i think that if you looked at some results, say, 2015, maybe would have say, 2015, maybe you would have found conservatives in found that the conservatives in ukip a coalition ukip would go into a coalition i might been relaxed might have been more relaxed about suspect of about that. i suspect lots of people proportional people that want proportional representation, people that want proportional repres but you know what, though? the people who want pr are always smaller parties, and always the smaller parties, and then once you get into then obviously once you get into power, you wouldn't want proportional representation,

you'd way it is, you'd want it the way it is, which the parties come which is why the parties come into power. and then they think, which is why the parties come inth'mner. and then they think, which is why the parties come inth'm not and then they think, which is why the parties come inth'm not doing1en they think, which is why the parties come inth'm not doing that.|ey think, which is why the parties come inth'm not doing that. and 1ink, oh, i'm not doing that. and that's never happen, is that's never going to happen, is it? with the with the bigger it? if with the with the bigger parties, let's bring reem parties, let's bring in reem ibrahim. political ibrahim. she's a political commentator. are commentator. uh, reem, what are your you fed up your thoughts? are you fed up with these two main parties? >> think. >> i am, i think. >> i am, i think. >> what's particularly interesting about the way in which the conservative and which the conservative party and the party have sort of the labour party have sort of been pulling towards their been been pulling towards their ideological direction . ideological direction. >> i think over the years people have been using word, you have been using this word, you know, polarisation, arguing that the parties are the two main parties are incredibly polarised at incredibly polarised. but at the moment don't think moment i don't seem to think that that's the case. and i think that voters at the moment don't though they don't feel as though that they have you know, there's have a choice. you know, there's conservative government. we've got highest burdens in got the highest tax burdens in the second world war, incredible amounts of inflation result amounts of inflation as a result of huge amounts of government spending , completely reckless. spending, completely reckless. and bank of england's and the bank of england's quantitative easing measures . so quantitative easing measures. so we have an economy we effectively have an economy that stifled by growth. that is being stifled by growth. government, the government is not doing anything to help that. and they are actually actively

increasing measures to go against that. the labour party itself, again , i mean, they itself, again, i mean, they aren't necessarily, um, providing a different option thatis providing a different option that is radical enough for voters . so, i mean, if you are voters. so, i mean, if you are a voters. so, i mean, if you are a voter and you voted in rochdale in the by—election the two main parties don't seem particularly attractive. and that's why you get these these issues like foreign policy issues that seem to take precedence over domestic issues. one thing i think that's particularly interesting about the by—election is the cost of living crisis or inflation was nowhere to be seen. the main issue that was spoken about dunng issue that was spoken about during the by—election is not actually the legacy of the conservative government or the legacy of, of keir starmer going forward. what that could look like, everything that was spoken about seemed to have been local issues and foreign policy issues in which in which george galloway was very, very good at capturing that kind of political motive. yeah >> james matthewson do you think that this george galloway victory is a shift and a start

and a change, the beginning of a change, or do you think it's just a one off? because it seems that people are now focusing more the local issues that more on the local issues that matter to them, and they're listening to their listening to what their politicians saying rather listening to what their politivoting saying rather listening to what their politivoting sayioveraller listening to what their politivoting sayioverall party than voting for an overall party or do you that that's how or do you think that that's how by are people by elections are? people vote locally comes the locally until it comes to the general election ? general election? >> i think like in every by—election there's an opportunity for to us kind of take the temperature a little bit you know, we're bit and i think, you know, we're able do that with, with able to do that with, with rochdale. but reims just rochdale. but as reims just pointed think, you rochdale. but as reims just pointeit's think, you rochdale. but as reims just pointeit's a think, you rochdale. but as reims just pointeit's a very think, you rochdale. but as reims just pointeit's a very unique1k, you rochdale. but as reims just pointeit's a very unique setlou rochdale. but as reims just pointeit's a very unique set of know, it's a very unique set of circumstances. this by—election. and will hear people saying and you will hear people saying that and you will hear labour people trying to people say that. i'm trying to be you know, it a be objective. you know, it is a unique set of circumstances because the because of them vacating the seat. galloway would seat. george galloway would like you believe is you to believe that this is a some i think he said the some kind of i think he said the tecton plates have i tecton plates have shifted. i mean , george galloway has never mean, george galloway has never been one for, know, of been one for, you know, kind of being, humble and being, um, being humble and being, um, being humble and being modest, let's be honest. so i think blown of so i think he's blown out of proportion completely. what this victory . i think he'll be victory means. i think he'll be there until october, november,

whenever the general election is. they'll back is. and they'll be booted back out labour he'll out by the labour party. he'll win the seat again. so that's probably likely to be the probably most likely to be the outcome. the end of outcome. and then at the end of the you know, to say that outcome. and then at the end of thit you know, to say that outcome. and then at the end of thit givesou know, to say that outcome. and then at the end of thit gives you now, to say that outcome. and then at the end of thit gives you some 0 say that outcome. and then at the end of thit gives you some idea' that outcome. and then at the end of thit gives you some idea of|at it it gives you some idea of something i think the something changing. i think the one thing that say me one thing that it does say to me is there dissatisfaction is that there is dissatisfaction and a labour party needs to and a labour party now needs to make crystal clear, make its offer. crystal clear, and it needs to start putting some policy ideas forward to the general public. >> yeah, but labour would say that they would have won had this sort of candidate. there's a good reason why their candidate was not standing for a ridiculous comments that the candidate so that would candidate made. so that would that reflect on the labour that would reflect on the labour party. in any case. james, do you think james is not james m but james p do you do you think that you know that labour just were unfortunate on this occasion? or do you think this sands are shifting? >> no, i i think it was a >> no, i mean i think it was a really, really embarrassing moment for labour that they picked doing picked this guy without doing the diligence and the the due diligence and the problem with this chap, by the way, that he way, let's all remember that he was that israel was saying that that israel let hamas into its borders to

hamas break into its borders to go and kill people. so they had an i mean, it's just it an excuse. i mean, it's just it was horrendous stuff. he was was horrendous stuff. and he was saying either he saying it either because he thought because thought thought it or because he thought labour it labour voters would believe it as would be good or as well, and it would be good or probably, i suspect the case was that those things were that both of those things were true. this true. i think that what this shows far from shows actually is that far from being fed up with the main parties, many people parties, many, many more people should get back involved in them. they both can with them. i think they both can with with memberships they've them. i think they both can with witiat memberships they've them. i think they both can with witiat the memberships they've them. i think they both can with witiat the moment,;hips they've them. i think they both can with witiat the moment, they they've them. i think they both can with witiat the moment, they canr've them. i think they both can with witiat the moment, they can be got at the moment, they can be easily groups. easily captured by small groups. some the some might think that the conservative leaves have got an older base, older support base, and therefore against therefore they are against things that things like housebuilding that the institute the adam smith institute would say more of to say we need to do more of to help the economy out and help say we need to do more of to help the people ny out and help say we need to do more of to help the people own it and help say we need to do more of to help the people own theiri help say we need to do more of to help the people own their own) younger people own their own homes, something like that. the labour we've seen labour party can be we've seen in be captured by labour party can be we've seen in kinds be captured by labour party can be we've seen in kinds of be captured by labour party can be we've seen in kinds of bipeople'ed by labour party can be we've seen in kinds of bipeople under all kinds of crazy people under the and god knows the corbyn years, and god knows what else we've got a more what else we've got a lot more high quality, thoughtful, passionate, patriotic brits joining these parties and pushing directions pushing them in good directions and skills to it and lending their skills to it at national levels. at local and national levels. then of the then we'd get round some of the worst excesses these parties worst excesses of these parties being captured and we wouldn't need galloways the world need the galloways of the world to there's a weakness in to show there's a weakness in some systems.

to show there's a weakness in sonwell, systems. to show there's a weakness in sonwell, i systems. to show there's a weakness in sonwell, i think,ams. to show there's a weakness in sonwell, i think, you know, you >> well, i think, you know, you make a good point, but i think we also you made a good point about two parties being about the two parties being so similar, they so similar, uh, that they are so similar, uh, that they are so similar i think, in the similar now, i think, in the words of richard tice, they words of richard tice, that they are view and i agree are both, in my view and i agree with they've become with them. they've become socialist parties. um, do you think that the nature of the way these parties are evolving means that actually start that people might actually start going for parties that are no longer within the main two? >> well , i longer within the main two? >> well, i think james makes an excellent point that actually, if people were to join excellent point that actually, if parties.e were to join excellent point that actually, if parties andere to join excellent point that actually, if parties and encourage those parties and encourage different types of ideologies to be to be sort of shown towards the forefront of the party, then then potentially they're able to actually develop that kind of difference and actually strong sort of economic policies. i mean, we saw the conservative party really shift over the last few years. i think that few years. and i think that particularly the particularly with the conservative seems conservative party, there seems to a kind of identity crisis to be a kind of identity crisis which probably out which will probably play out after they lose the next general election, and we'll election, and then we'll hopefully truly hopefully get a truly conservative party, although i'm not sure i'm that optimistic. i think what's interesting about

the rochdale by—election is that it really has taught. i think the labour party a lesson . more the labour party a lesson. more than 80% of muslim voters in this country voted for labour in 2019, and i think that keir starmer has tried to kind of overcompensate as a result of all of those horrendous accusations of anti—semitism that we saw within the labour party during jeremy corbyn's premiership. and so as a result of that, starmer overcompensated i >> -- >> you 5mm >> you think? yeah. do you think i don't know, i think he's just desperate to get any vote in different pockets of and he's prepared to sit on the fence so that he can get every single person's vote. but you can't please all the people all of the time. listen, you so time. well listen, thank you so much matthewson , uh, much for james matthewson, uh, final you, are fed final then to you, are you fed up? or no? of the two main up? yes or no? of the two main parties? yes no? parties? yes or no? >> oh, no . parties? yes or no? >> oh, no. i'm, parties? yes or no? >> oh, no . i'm, uh, parties? yes or no? >> oh, no. i'm, uh, i'm very much ready for a labour government. uh, i think we will. you know, we'll see that that was no, and then we can was yes or no, and then we can stop. >> e can @- @— e— e can all. no no, it's >> no, we can all. no no, it's just yes or no. we can complain. complain about the labour price.

yes or no? >> we: w— >> there was a politician's answer no. answer there. no. >> not fed >> wasn't it. yes. not fed up, not reem ibrahim. yes not fed up and reem ibrahim. yes or am. yes i am, i'm with or no i am. yes i am, i'm with you. reem ibrahim. thank you very uh, james price and very much. uh, james price and of course, james matthews. i'm really you all. really good to talk to you all. thank for thoughts thank you for your thoughts right gb news on right now. this is gb news on tv, on digital radio. tv, online and on digital radio. it's approaching 32 minutes it's fast approaching 32 minutes after 5:00, coming up, my great british debate this hour. i'll continue i'm asking continue with it. i'm asking you. at two main you. you fed up at the two main parties? you'll the parties? you'll hear the thoughts of my panel. lizzie cundy mcdonald. cundy and andy mcdonald. but first, latest first, let's get your latest news tatiana . news with tatiana. >> nana. >> nana. >> thank you. the top stories from the gb newsroom. dozens of pro—palestine marches are taking place in towns and cities right across the uk. this weekend after rishi sunak called on organisers not to let extremist huack organisers not to let extremist hijack protests in his speech, delivered from downing street just last night, he called for the nation to unite, warning that islamist extremists and far right groups are spreading

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we've only got 21 minutes to go. i'm nana akua. and it's time now for the great british debate this hour. i'm asking, are you fed up with the two main parties? the recent by—election fed up with the two main partie in the recent by—election fed up with the two main partie in rochdale, by—election fed up with the two main partie in rochdale, where ection fed up with the two main partie in rochdale, where george upset in rochdale, where george galloway. i want to be a cat emerged victorious, has reignited discussions about the dominance of the main political parties . and with the parties. and with the independent candidate, david tully's surprising second place finish and has reform, uk gains ground in the polls, it appears that brits want a change. so for the great british debate this houn the great british debate this hour, i'm asking are you fed up with the two main parties? let's see what my panel maker that i'm joined by, broadcast from columnist cundy and also columnist lizzie cundy and also trade and political trade unionist and political commentator andy macdonald, right . andy macdonald will try right. andy macdonald will try with first. and macdonald , with you first. and macdonald, are up with the two of are you fed up with the two of these parties? >> i'm not. i'm not at all. i think it's i think the labour party been forward think it's i think the labour p.coherent been forward think it's i think the labour p.coherent policy forward think it's i think the labour p.coherent policy platform rward think it's i think the labour p.coherent policy platform and! a coherent policy platform and as shown by the recent by elections, they elections, you know, which they most been won by most win, most have been won by the labour party, you know, wellingborough, tamworth mid

wellingborough, tamworth, mid bedfordshire, most of them have been. going even to been. and going back even to birmingham know, birmingham erdington, you know, a lot of them have been won by the know, like the labour party. you know, like with of the tory with the behaviour of the tory party, if the labour party hadnt party, if the labour party hadn't managed to those hadn't managed to gain those seats, been some seats, they would have been some serious problems. >> the labour >> it's not anything the labour party well, i mean, party have done well, i mean, clearly made clearly reform haven't made a big either. clearly reform haven't made a big the either. clearly reform haven't made a big the liberal. clearly reform haven't made a big the liberal democrats have clearly reform haven't made a big tha liberal democrats have clearly reform haven't made a big tha small. democrats have clearly reform haven't made a big tha small dent.)crats have clearly reform haven't made a big tha small dent. but,; have clearly reform haven't made a big tha small dent. but, you'e made a small dent. but, you know, labour party have been know, the labour party have been the dominant force in these by elections. so clearly there is an labour an appetite for the labour party. so i would say people aren't fed up with the main aren't fed up with the two main parties. you think. and look >> what do you think. and look labour aren't winning because of their policies. because frankly they they're they haven't got any um, they're winning conservatives winning because conservatives are so horrific . and i'm afraid are so horrific. and i'm afraid the public are sick of 14 years of lying to the electorate. highest tax bracket, isn't it? from 70 years and record immigration? i think people are sick to death of the tories not doing anything and not acting. and that's what's sadly missing. and that's what's sadly missing. and a lot of people are in the political wilderness , andy and political wilderness, andy and i think rochdale showed that

people want a change. they they are after a change. and i'm saying the change should be for reform , i really do. reform, i really do. >> do you think that people who have observed what's happened here, that a candidate just from left field has managed to take on and win a seat that would have been a labour heartland seat had it not been for your candidate being so ridiculous with his comments. well, no, let me don't interrupt me finish. no, don't interrupt me. i think had your me. i think he's had your candidate not so candidate not been so ridiculous. and are ridiculous. and there are there's of this about it there's a lot of this about it seems be within labour seems to be within the labour party. party aren't any party. the tory party aren't any better, way. not better, by the way. i'm not supporting of them. but do supporting any of them. but do you think that this is a sea change now and people are realising parties realising that smaller parties can actually win seats? >> mean, fairness, i don't >> i mean, in fairness, i don't represent party. i'm represent the labour party. i'm just i don't speak for just a member. i don't speak for them. but azhar ali, you them. but but azhar ali, you know, candidate them. but but azhar ali, you kno as candidate them. but but azhar ali, you kno as an candidate them. but but azhar ali, you kno as an independent,1ate ran as an independent, successful absolutely. ran as an independent, successcondemn absolutely. ran as an independent, success condemn him lutely. ran as an independent, successcondemn him wholly. yeah. i condemn him wholly. i think were think his comments were disgusting and disgraceful. >> starmer take >> but why did keir starmer take so long to say anything? dragged his feet, he dragged feet? >> in fairness, you know, you were support for were advocating your support for reform. up a candidate

were advocating your support for reforwas up a candidate were advocating your support for reforwas suspended a candidate were advocating your support for reforwas suspended from |didate were advocating your support for reforwas suspended from the ate who was suspended from the labour for sixteen, labour party for sixteen, a 17 year girl. reform uk year old girl. so reform uk didn't have an ideal candidate year old girl. so reform uk dirthishave an ideal candidate year old girl. so reform uk dirthis by—electionl candidate year old girl. so reform uk dirthis by—election either,date in this by—election either, in fairness. the point fairness. but just on the point about wider , that's a bad about the wider, that's a bad thing. about the wider, that's a bad thirsexting. how old was she? she >> sexting. how old was she? she was 17. >> was a child. he was in >> she was a child. he was in his 40s. >> are you an adult at or 17? >> are you an adult at 16 or 17? 16? listen, don't i would 16?16? listen, i don't i would say if you're in your 40s, though, and you're a 17 though, and you're sixteen a 17 year would say it's bad, year old, i would say it's bad, but it's not illegal, is it? like you picked up something but it's not illegal, is it? like he'du picked up something but it's not illegal, is it? like he'd done.ed up something but it's not illegal, is it? like he'd done thatp something but it's not illegal, is it? like he'd done thatp sorillegal, that he'd done that was illegal, i'd and that he i'd say it's bad and that he shouldn't that. shouldn't be doing that. >> i thought >> and i thought it was terrible. >> the tactics at rochdale did not letting in. were not letting him in. there were there of going on there was all sorts of going on there was all sorts of going on there at rochdale. it a there at rochdale. it was a disgrace. and let disgrace. and labour let rochdale down completely. >> agree, think the process >> i agree, i think the process of selection was flawed completely factional completely put factional priorities the priorities priorities over the priorities of rochdale and i think the labour party did mess up in rochdale. >> agree a starmer >> i agree it's a keir starmer who's more u—turns than who's got more u—turns than a top gear dvd. um, yeah . and sits top gear dvd. um, yeah. and sits on the fence and you know what worries me? doesn't know what a woman is. he couldn't answer that question.

>> well, he's finally let's to give him his dues after two years. then admitted years. he then admitted that it's adult female . it's an adult female. >> that worries me, though. for someone going someone that's going to, you know, our prime know, possibly be our prime minister. that answer minister. that couldn't answer that . that question. >> well, the problem i think he has tries to appease has is that he tries to appease too factions. tried too many factions. so he tried too many factions. so he tried to change all the anti—semitism within which within his party, which he should but should have done anyway. but this obviously his party this was obviously his party tactic is to get the jewish vote. then he sort of tried to get the muslim vote as well . and get the muslim vote as well. and that's not gone too well for him because some party have because some of his party have either abstained called either abstained or not called for which is for the ceasefire, which is where then this sort of where we then saw this sort of change procedure in change of procedure in the houses parliament. so the houses of parliament. so the issue here is , isn't he just as issue here is, isn't he just as bad? there just as bad. there's no other where else can people go? but no, i think you know the point about anti—semitism. >> the labour was in >> the labour party was in a horrific state in 2019, and keir starmer, i don't think he was doing jewish vote. doing it for the jewish vote. i think was the survival of think he was for the survival of the labour party. >> corbyn, he him, he >> corbyn, he backed him, he said. he said three times he will prime will make a great prime minister. jeremy corbyn lee anderson also did back jeremy

corbyn. >> you know, was a labour >> you know, he was a labour councillor. was a was councillor. he was a he was a labour and he was labour councillor and he was a labour councillor and he was a labour member. labour staff member. he campaigned in campaigned for labour in the 2017 election, 2017 general election, but he didn't specifically. well, 2017 general election, but he diyou specifically. well, 2017 general election, but he diyou ifiecifically. well, 2017 general election, but he diyou if youically. well, 2017 general election, but he diyou if you don't well, 2017 general election, but he diyou if you don't supportzll, 2017 general election, but he diyou if you don't support the if you if you don't support the party's leader, no, he campaigned but campaigned for labour but he didn't express didn't specifically express direct leader , direct support for the leader, as did. that's a break of collective responsibility. if you're elected labour you're in an elected labour official, he's you are you are assuming that you do support the leader. that. leader. say that. >> specifically he didn't >> but he specifically he didn't name corbyn as somebody name jeremy corbyn as somebody he think he he didn't even he i think he called him didn't he call him a friend? and then he said, we're not really friends. yeah. >> backtracked, as he >> then he backtracked, as he always does another always does. he does another u—turn. on, know, u—turn. come on, you know, come on, on. u—turn. come on, you know, come on, yeah, on. u—turn. come on, you know, come on, yeah, but i you can't >> yeah, but i mean you can't go. on keir starmer go. on well, keir starmer supported he's ruled out supported him so he's ruled out when also did when lee anderson also did support it. no did and he support it. no he did and he did. he was an elected did. he was he was an elected labour can can labour official. you can you can be labour official be an elected labour official and support the way your and not support the way your leader behaves. >> stand by side. leader behaves. >> there stand by side. leader behaves. >> there are stand by side. leader behaves. >> there are plenty )y side. leader behaves. >> there are plenty of side. leader behaves. >> there are plenty of people. >> there are plenty of people. >> he did until he was >> yes he did until he was ultimately from people. >> hey there are of >> hey there are plenty of people who are conservatives who may support rishi sunak may not support rishi sunak wholeheartedly and express

wholeheartedly and will express that. if they specifically that. but if they specifically support their leader, wholehearted and that wholehearted and express that and them friends and and even call them friends and then distanced themselves , then later distanced themselves, i don't know. i don't. that doesn't good. doesn't sound good. >> the i mean, >> but look, the i mean, rishi sunak boris sunak did that with boris johnson, right hand, johnson, who was his right hand, wasn't and now gone all wasn't he? and now he's gone all it the worry is it was all a mess. the worry is people politically homeless people are politically homeless at the minute and that's why we need a change. >> nothing without >> and this is nothing without you views. let's you and your views. let's welcome british voice. you and your views. let's wetheree british voice. you and your views. let's wethere opportunity3ritish voice. you and your views. let's wethere opportunity to :ish voice. you and your views. let's wethere opportunity to be voice. you and your views. let's wethere opportunity to be onice. is there opportunity to be on and they think and tell us what they think about the topics we're discussing? of discussing? there's three of you, you you, alan mcneilly. you go first. been first. 30s owl, we've been babbling. owl, what do you babbling. 30s owl, what do you think? are you sick the two think? are you sick of the two main parties? i'm good afternoon. >> good afternoon. all >> good afternoon. i've lost all of . doesn't which of them. it doesn't matter which political party they are. >> once you've got to do is look at in scotland . at the snp in scotland. >> labour party in wales and think what's coming down the line . if get labour line. if we get a labour government in the, in the, in england, they're all an absolute shambles . shambles. >> they are. brian duggan 30s . >> they are. brian duggan 30s. >> they are. brian duggan 30s. >> um , well i think it's a bit >> um, well i think it's a bit harsh to describe the labour party as a shambles , given

party as a shambles, given their, you know , real lead in their, you know, real lead in their, you know, real lead in the polls . the polls. >> um, and the fact that you've got a toxic tory government, uh, which you just cannot disagree with, alan, but but but but look, uh, i, i'm fed up with nanais look, uh, i, i'm fed up with nana is just the toxic city in our politics overall polarisation of our politics overall . um, the tory party are overall. um, the tory party are in a real mess. they're the ones that really have to sort themselves out. labour have sorted themselves out. they've addressed all of the things. what lizzie says in terms of, you know, the anti—semitism he's deau you know, the anti—semitism he's dealt with, that . yeah, he's dealt with, that. yeah, he's absolutely dealt with it. >> about the whole >> but what about the whole issue with what went on in parliament? i'm going to have to move but could talked move on. but i could have talked to for a long time about to you for a long time about duggan. to duggan. we're going to have to get on as well. i have get you on as a well. can i have a old spat with you? right a good old spat with you? right then? jones in then? jonathan jones there in cornwall. tea? looks cornwall. where's my tea? looks nice. got tea. jonathan nice. i've got my tea. jonathan jones, a tea. nice. i've got my tea. jonathan jonydefinitely a tea. nice. i've got my tea. jonathan jonydefinitely time a tea. nice. i've got my tea. jonathan jonydefinitely time for a tea. nice. i've got my tea. jonathan jonydefinitely time for more. >> definitely time for more parties, i think. now look , i'm parties, i think. now look, i'm speaking to kinds of farmers parties, i think. now look, i'm sp cornwall kinds of farmers parties, i think. now look, i'm sp cornwall who

the main parties. and i've even met aren't government ministers the main parties. and i've even met aren't goingiment ministers the main parties. and i've even met aren't going toznt ministers the main parties. and i've even met aren't going to continue :ers who aren't going to continue standing in parliament next election. >> so i think these are up and coming parties could give us a run for our money. and i've even had a cup of tea with nigel farage i heard him say farage and i, i heard him say he's right wing, he's right he's not right wing, he's right so far, which i thought was quite, good for quite, quite good for him. >> right. nice one. didn't >> all right. nice one. i didn't have of tea, but there have my cup of tea, but there you that's jonathan you are. that's jonathan checks there toogood there in cornwall. brian toogood in the in solihull and also the fabulous mcneilly . my great fabulous alan mcneilly. my great british they great british voices. they are great indeed. right indeed. thank you so much. right what do you think? gb views gb news com i'm nana akua news dot com i'm nana akua coming up my quick fire quiz in this week's big stories. but next up clip bait george galloway storming victory in galloway storming to victory in rochdale the by elections. rochdale at the by elections. there's um, it's there's a bizarre clip. um, it's resurfaced online. guess what happens next? stay tuned

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news. i'm nana akua. we're live on tv , online and on digital on tv, online and on digital radio, and it's now time for clip bait , a radio, and it's now time for clip bait, a clip that caught my eye following george galloway's rochdale by—election victory. a clip with surface from an appearance on a series of celebrity big brother in 2006. whilst the 69 year old returns to westminster , will bring to westminster, will bring nightmares to keir starmer along with other leading political figures. will his resurgence bnng figures. will his resurgence bring more disgrace or glory ? bring more disgrace or glory? let's hope there are no more moments like this. let's take a look at this bizarre clip of george galloway chris kaba . bush george galloway chris kaba. bush wanjiku's . wanjiku's. >> yes . oh no . >> yes. on no. >> yes. on no. >> yes . one second. that's >> yes. one second. that's funny. did malicious liv golf

liv golf now? >> nick hewer ipso cream all over your whiskers ? over your whiskers? >> um . for those of you >> um. for those of you listening on radio, that was george galloway pretending to be a cat licking from rula lenska hands and her hands with the bowl. >> well, i've got to tell you something. i know rula lenska very well and she can't bear this because every time she goes into a restaurant, they serve her a bowl of milk. it's never left her. is it ? haunts her left her. is it? haunts her forever. oh dear god, oh dear dear dear , poor rochdale. dear dear, poor rochdale. >> recover from that one. >> recover from that one. >> poor rochdale . i've seen that >> poor rochdale. i've seen that before. well, i'm glad you have. >> now you're. oh, he's traumatised . you see. you can traumatised. you see. you can never that. i know it's never unsee that. i know it's time for our quickfire quiz time now for our quickfire quiz as part of the show where i test my some of the other my panel on some of the other stories the headlines stories hitting the headlines right now. joining broadcast right now. joining me broadcast from lizzie from columnist lizzie cundy. your and your buzzer please, lizzie. and also trade unionist and political commentator andy macdonald. please , macdonald. your buzzer please, please at home. please play along at home. question one of the highland

games trophy discovered games trophy was discovered after lost for 90 years. after being lost for 90 years. but where was it found? is it a in someone's house after a clear—out b at a charity shop or c in the english channel? lizzie cundy i'm going for a yes. c in the english channel? lizzie cundy i'm going for a yes . and cundy i'm going for a yes. and what do you think? b the answer is well, it was found in someone's house, which is a yes. we need to put that on there. very good. thank you. nil point for you andy. right okay. yes. so after it was found, after being tracked down 500 miles away in devon, that's where it was found. question two. closest answer wins the world's oldest dog has this word . answer wins the world's oldest dog has this word. has his word. record has world record. world record . world. it's world. not record. world. it's world. not world. world has his world record stripped following controversy around his real age. but how old was the dog? >> 25. did i say your name? you didn't say anyone's name. >> andy mcdonald, 25. lizzie cundy 2626. >> the answer is 3030.

>> the answer is 3030. >> the answer is 3030. >> the dog was 3030 years and 268 days old. lizzie ooh! nil. nil to nil. all right. question three. true or false? the rwanda plan is set to cost the uk 1.8 million for each asylum seeker. andy mcdonald. false lizzie cundy true . the answer is it was cundy true. the answer is it was true. rishi sunak plan to send asylum seekers to rwanda will cost. >> i don't want to clap at that point. >> 8 million for each. uh, the first 300 people, right . okay. question. >> and no one's taken off. >> and no one's taken off. >> let's hope. yes. question four. let's hope we've got the. i'd like to hear the poll as well. how well our twitter poll is george is done. question four george galloway sweeps to in galloway sweeps to victory in rochdale by the by—election this week. many voters did he week. but how many voters did he win by lizzie cundy sorry about that. >> was it 9000 514,300 or 12,335. >> be andy mcdonald lizzie cundy. just before i'd finished c c 12,335. lizzie cundy i'm

going to go for c as well then. c you should have gone for something else. i don't know why i didn't. the answer is c yes, i knew it was right though. 35 votes. question ralph votes. the final question ralph has rise on weekends, adding has to rise on weekends, adding more commuters journey. more pain to commuters journey. what rise by what percentage will it rise by quickly? seconds lizzie quickly? five seconds lizzie cundy 10. you quickly? five seconds lizzie cundy10. you quick 15% 15. the answer 80. you couldn't win anyway 4.9. you are today's winner. she wins four one on today's show. i've been asking rishi sunak right? that democracy is under threat. according to our twitter poll, 90% of you say yes, only 10% of you say no. wow well done. thank you say no. wow well done. thank you much to my panel you so much to my panel broadcast from columnist lizzie cundy. cundy, thank you cundy. lizzie cundy, thank you very much. thank you. and also trade unionist andy mcdonald . trade unionist andy mcdonald. thank you very much, very much. and huge thank you to you at and a huge thank you to you at home it's home for your company. it's always join always a pleasure. join me tomorrow. christine hamilton and danielle joining danielle mason will be joining me. see you tomorrow. same me. i'll see you tomorrow. same time, place at 3:00. enjoy time, same place at 3:00. enjoy the . weather. the. weather. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of

weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello there. i'm greg dewhurst and welcome to your latest gb news weather. it's going to be quite chilly tonight. some frost and fog and some icy stretches around. but sunday be drier and sunday should be drier and brighter. currently have low brighter. we currently have low pressure in charge of our weather, does to weather, but it does start to move away through sunday, allowing drier day before then allowing a drier day before then further windy weather further wet and windy weather spreads from for spreads in from the west for monday . for this evening time we monday. for this evening time we do have outbreaks of showery rain, sleet and some hill snow across england across northern england spreading parts spreading into scotland, parts of northern ireland and some western fringes of wales too. elsewhere some clear elsewhere we'll see some clear spells and as temperatures drop overnight , we'll see some spells and as temperatures drop overnight, we'll see some mist and fog patches forming some icy stretches to temperatures in the countryside. minus two to minus five celsius. so it could be some tricky travelling conditions across central southern england. southern parts of england. firstly dense patches, firstly dense fog patches, but they lift and break and they slowly lift and break and then most it's a bright and then for most it's a bright and cheery day . plenty of sunny cheery day. plenty of sunny spells, a scattering of showers

across western parts of the uk, and this weather front close to the east could give some patchy rain. east coast. rain. along the east coast. temperatures up a little bit compared to saturday, a bit more brightness around it will just feel a little less cold then into monday. this weather system starts to into western starts to move into western areas, bringing some outbreaks of and brisk winds of heavy rain and brisk winds too. elsewhere, cold, frosty start, but then plenty of sunshine in across the north and east through the day and temperatures a little higher once . it mixed. once more. it remains mixed. tuesday and towards the middle of week, temperatures of the week, but temperatures a little see you little above average. see you soon then. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boiler as sponsors of weather on .

canadian political prisoners . canadian political prisoners. political prisoners in canada who became known as the cootes four jailed for more than 700 days without bail or process. i'll then be joined by canadian journalist david creedon to discuss trudeau's online harms act. sounds familiar ? and act. sounds familiar? and finally, i'll be telling you about my new show where i'll be splitting my time between an onune splitting my time between an online two hour show on a friday evening, as well as a new show which will be on your screens on sunday evenings from 6 pm. all exciting stuff , all of that in exciting stuff, all of that in the company of my panellist, presenter and friend, the wonderful andrew eborn. but first, an update on the latest news from the one and only tatiana sanchez . tatiana sanchez. >> neil, thank you very much and

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