canadian political prisoners . canadian political prisoners. political prisoners in canada who became known as the cootes four jailed for more than 700 days without bail or process. i'll then be joined by canadian journalist david creedon to discuss trudeau's online harms act. sounds familiar .7 and act. sounds familiar? and finally, i'll be telling you about my new show where i'll be splitting my time between an onune splitting my time between an online two hour show on a friday evening, as well as a new show which will be on your screens on sunday evenings from 6 pm. all exciting stuff , all of that in exciting stuff, all of that in the company of my panellist, presenter and friend, the wonderful andrew eborn. but first, an update on the latest news from the one and only tatiana sanchez . tatiana sanchez. >> neil, thank you very much and

good evening. your top stories from the gp newsroom. dozens of pro—palestine marches took to the streets across britain today after rishi sunak called on organisers not to let extremists huack organisers not to let extremists hijack back protests. in a speech last night, he called for the nation to unite and said islamist extremists and far right groups are spreading poison . it followed george poison. it followed george galloway's controversial win in the rochdale by—election this week, which the prime minister described as beyond alarming . described as beyond alarming. the us military has carried out its first airdrop of aid into gaza. its first airdrop of aid into gaza . it comes after the deaths gaza. it comes after the deaths of palestinian fans queuing for food brought renewed attention to the growing humanitarian catastrophe. us president joe biden says he hopes to see a ceasefire agreement between israel and hamas before the start of ramadan on the 10th of march. germany is investigating after the apparent eavesdropping of a telephone call, during which a potential weapons delivery for ukraine was

discussed . a recording of the discussed. a recording of the call was broadcast by russian media. moscow says it shows german officials discussing the possible delivery of taurus cruise missiles to kyiv, and a possible strike on a bridge in crimea . chancellor olaf scholz crimea. chancellor olaf scholz has publicly rejected requests for the delivery of those missiles. he says the potential eavesdropping is very serious. however, officials maintain that its authenticity has not been verified . an mp who defected verified. an mp who defected from the scottish national party to the tory party says she faced terrible abuse. doctor lisa cameron switched parties in october last year after suffering what she described as toxic treatment by the snp's westminster group . she's accused westminster group. she's accused her former party of turning a blind eye after years in the toxic snp . toxic snp. >> it is just so refreshing for me to have a place in a party where we support each other and where we support each other and where we support each other and

where we work together as a team. i knew that leaving snp would mean i would become a target for the very, very worst of national schism, but the vile and the vile threats that i have received were beyond even my wildest imagination . when police wildest imagination. when police are still investigating after three people were injured in a shooting in a part of london popular with bars and restaurants, two women were inside of a pub when they were hit by shotgun pellets after a suspect dropped a firearm during a police pursuit in clapham . a police pursuit in clapham. >> a third person was injured by the moped itself. they've all now been released from hospital . now been released from hospital. towns within commuting distance of major cities have seen some of major cities have seen some of the biggest rent rises in recent years . newly published recent years. newly published research by property website zoopla shows that rents have risen by more than a third in some towns . bolton, newport and some towns. bolton, newport and bradford have seen sharp increases are all within short commuting distances from major cities. the company says that

while city rents are rising fastest , affordability pressures fastest, affordability pressures are pushing more people further out . now, a section of the out. now, a section of the famous sycamore gap tree is to return to public view as part of a display at a discovery centre. the much loved 200 year old tree was a popular attraction for visitors to hadrian's wall in northumberland , but it was found northumberland, but it was found cut down in mysterious circumstances last year, sparking a national outcry. northumberland national park says it received more than 2000 heartfelt messages from all over the world. the largest section of the tree will now form part of the tree will now form part of a display at the cecil discovery centre near newcastle, which is expected to be in place from september. fashion icon iris apfel has died at her home in florida at the age of 102. known for her distinct of glasses and fun, no nonsense approach to fashion, she founded the luxury company old world weavers with her husband in

1950. she went on to lead a long career in fashion . at the age of career in fashion. at the age of 97, she signed a major modelling contract with global agency img , contract with global agency img, just a year after a limited edition barbie doll was created in her image . and the red carpet in her image. and the red carpet is out for the best of britain's music industry ahead of tonight's brit awards, including the princess of pop , everybody's the princess of pop, everybody's doing a brand new dance now come on, let it together. >> come singing superstar kylie minogue will be crowned this year's global icon later, and she'll perform a medley of some of her greatest hits , leading of her greatest hits, leading the main awards. >> however, is ray, who's already broken records with seven nominations. the most in a single year . seven nominations. the most in a single year. well, she's up against some stiff competition with dua lipa and olivia dean also up for key awards . for the also up for key awards. for the latest stories, you can sign up

to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen. or you can go to gb news camilla tominey. now it's back to . neil. tominey. now it's back to. neil. >> there's a memorable adage for times like these that people should never fear their government. on the contrary , government. on the contrary, that the government should always fear the people . well, always fear the people. well, damn straight, they should . damn straight, they should. those words correct because those words are correct because at their heart lies truth. truth never to be forgotten. that the only legitimate power is the power of we the people. yesterday, minister rishi yesterday, prime minister rishi sunak made a speech outside number 10. unelected prime minister sunak leads a government from within an establishment that has for years made possible and then turned a blind to eye the very anger and pain that is now only now a problem. he wants to bleat about . at the heart of it was a vote, a by—election that didn't go the way of that establishment. in simple terms, if a conservative candidate had been returned in rochdale, it would have been

business as usual. frankly it would also have been business as usual, even if a labour candidate had been handed a majority or a liberal. any establishment puppet, if any of those options had come to pass, courtesy of that same electorate, no one would have blinked. but something else happened instead. something not in the playbook. veteran campaigner and thorn in the side of the establishment, george galloway was elected and now the electorate responsible is labelled islamist extremist. and he and they are firmly in the sights of that establishment and its big media. when is an extremist not an extremist? when he votes conservative or labour, that's when evidently the government and by extension parliament itself and the whole of the establishment is finally feeling the heat emanating from all sorts of angry people, grown too numerous to ignore. finally they express some of that anger doesn't suit the agenda . and now doesn't suit the agenda. and now the people are only bad people. i say too late and too bad for this government, this parliament, this establishment, too little and too late. the

story of the popular anger has been years in the making, decades a tragic story blithely ignored by one manifestation of a rotten establishment after another . that a rotten establishment after another. that anger has roots in many places and is explained by many places and is explained by many factors , but i see it all many factors, but i see it all as symptoms of the same disease in shorthand. this anger, this genie that won't go back in the bottle is what a succession of governments get when they set in train and then facilitate the destruction of people's lives and sit back and do nothing to help , or and sit back and do nothing to help, or indeed and sit back and do nothing to help , or indeed back to help, or indeed sit back to revel in their power over those people . most recently, we've people. most recently, we've endured four years of the most dangerous and blatant assault on freedom and civil rights in the history humankind and during history of humankind and during what go down in the what should go down in the history books as the era of the scamdemic, those occupying positions of power in government, in medicine, in big tech , in big media, inflicted on tech, in big media, inflicted on the people nothing less than sustained abuse on an unprecedented scale. abuse that all these years later is still unaddressed and unconfessed,

utterly devoid of consequences for the guilty . excess deaths. for the guilty. excess deaths. two little words hung like an albatross around their shoulders . just days ago, the desperate had the temerity to change the way those deaths are assigned . way those deaths are assigned. the totals reached into ahead of facing up to the thousands of people that have died when they shouldn't have died, that are still dying unexpectedly and in ways unexplained . and every week ways unexplained. and every week since, sometime in 2021. instead of so much as talking about those deaths , the rules of the those deaths, the rules of the game were changed instead, to make those dead almost disappear . almost those two little words, excess deaths are nothing less than a straw to break a camel's back and part of the pressure pushing tectonic plates moving the ground beneath politicians feet. and they know it. and now, now the anger of the people who endured all of that abuse is finally hot enough for the perpetrators to feel loud enough for them to hear and predictable enough for them to fear and true to form, true to the playbook ,

to form, true to the playbook, they must deflect and distract right wing and islamist extremism. oh yes, that'll do nicely . extremism. oh yes, that'll do nicely. during the years of extremism. oh yes, that'll do nicely . during the years of the nicely. during the years of the covid debate , all those covid debate, all those politicians, doctors , politicians, doctors, scientists, big technocrats, big media were only confident and blase and so confident and blase have they been until very recently . they've not even recently. they've not even sought to deny the many ways in which they colluded on a global scale, with measures and policies that destroyed millions of lives and that will destroy millions more by the hand of those perpetrators. trust in the state was destroyed and destroyed for millions for whom it will never return. likewise trust in science, trust in those physicians and other medical professionals who, through their oaths first, do no harm onto the floor and trampled them while they made tiktok videos of their group dance routines. and now the people, too many people for too many reasons and too in many places, are too angry to be ignored any longer. we have witnessed. indeed, we continue to witness the biggest transfer of wealth history . we have

of wealth in history. we have suffered assault on privacy , suffered assault on privacy, assault on autonomy, on assault on bodily autonomy, on freedom of speech, freedom to travel, work . we suffered the travel, to work. we suffered the insufferable authoritarians who revelled in their power and grew fat on the take. and whether those authoritarian knew it or not, flood not, the anger rose like flood water, more of their evil nonsense in pursuit of the suicide of net zero finally provoked farmers to rise in protest. protests that spread all across europe, with the full throated support of growing numbers of citizens, the anger's everywhere you look here across europe, the usa, even in canada, once the most liberal of places, there is righteous, righteous fury in the aftermath of the crushing of the truckers protest protest that saw another entitled designer suited puppet , entitled designer suited puppet, prime ministerjustin trudeau prime minister justin trudeau invoked the emergency act so that he might freeze protesters bank accounts , threw them in bank accounts, threw them in jail. the usa has no functioning southern border so that millions of unidentified migrants arrive day and night, changing perhaps forever. the demographic and therefore the traditional voting

patterns of state after state. there's talk of secession, even of another civil war. the uk has no border either . of another civil war. the uk has no border either. none that stops new arrivals by the tens of thousands every year. and people are angry and about more and more every day . i listen to and more every day. i listen to rishi sunaks speech , unelected rishi sunaks speech, unelected rishi sunaks speech, unelected rishi sunaks speech, unelected rishi sunak and its background music of someone nearby and howling some or other anger. his words, if they were his words and not the product of chatgpt and not the product of chatgpt and chatgpt , give me a ten and chatgpt, give me a ten minute speech that makes me sound patriotic and like i'm the champion of democracy and the common people . honestly, he common people. honestly, he said. britain is home to a democratic society with a proud past , a democratic society with a proud past, a reasonable country and a decent people, he said. we are a country of great achievements and enduring values and building britain together. talk about a brass neck where was this sort of rhetoric from? sunak or any other sock puppet? when for decades spokesmen and women, for communities up and down the

country reported lives torn apart and for their troubles were labelled by the establishment as racists and fascists, whereas the talk of a proud past when statues were torn down as schools and universities brainwashed generations with the certainty that here was a racist, colonialist, imperial country, where was the talk of building britain together then he said there were forces here at home trying to tear us apart. i don't know about you, but when i look back at the years just past, i see a government and the country's institutions aided and abetted at all times by a supine mainstream media seeking to do just that, to demonise all who challenged their diktats like lockdowns, who questioned the safety of gene therapies pushed as vaccines, who challenged sabre rattling for endless wars? where was the government's support for peaceful protest when the mainstream media could think of nothing better than to call for so—called anti—vaxxers call for so—called anti —vaxxers to call for so—called anti—vaxxers to be stripped of freedom, maybe have their kids taken from them, maybe be injected against their

will? millions of people here and all over the world, people simultaneously appalled by the events of october the 7th in israel and by the deaths of tens of thousands of civilians in gaza since , have marched in gaza since, have marched in protest, calling for an end to it for a ceasefire . but they are it for a ceasefire. but they are to be characterised to a man and to be characterised to a man and to a woman as islamist extremists hate marchers . you extremists hate marchers. you can guarantee that the establishment's new, robust framework to deal with protests will mean yet more shortening of the leash around our necks in this election year, sunak talked about the necessity to abide by the rule of law. i look back at the rule of law. i look back at the past four years and wonder a great deal about rules. when law abiding people were shut in their homes, lost their jobs if they wouldn't take doses of gene therapy . not to mention the therapy. not to mention the madness of rule of six magic arrows shop floors , masks arrows on shop floors, masks when not when when standing, but not when sitting. i think of all the elderly who died in care homes cut ones. i think cut off from loved ones. i think about those who locked about those who died in locked wards, ushered to the exit door

of life by cocktails of midazolam morphine. when midazolam and morphine. when a different course of action and action predicated upon first doing no harm , might have had doing no harm, might have had altogether different outcome for thousands sunak said. nearly everyone in britain supports the bafic everyone in britain supports the basic values of rule of law , basic values of rule of law, rule of law, playing by the rules , playing the game. i think rules, playing the game. i think about behaviour like that and wonder if it's just the rule of law for us and whether it's just blindingly obvious that rules only apply to us and to not those with the power to change the rules at will. maybe sunak is right, most people in is right, and most people in britain support those values britain do support those values of the rules . but if of obeying the rules. but if you're me small and you're asking me the small and vocal hostile groups who do not, as he described them, is a neat description of the inhabitants of westminster itself. he said extremists and the far right were equally desperate. two sides of the same coin, which was rich, coming from one of the two cheeks of the same backside, presently sliding up and down the green benches commons the green benches of the commons in guise of the conservative in the guise of the conservative and labour parties . referring to

and labour parties. referring to rochdale, he said neither group accepts that change in our country can only come through peaceful democratic process. does that mean a by—election that didn't work out for him? unelected as he is already to be characterised as undemocratic , characterised as undemocratic, he said those extremists and right wingers want to set britain against britain, he said. extremists and their ilk aim to drain us of our confidence in ourselves and as a people. they want us to doubt ourselves, to doubt our country's history . really, country's history. really, rishi, i'd got the impression that that was your job. here's the thing. politicians are properly rattled now after years of cynically frightening the people . what sunak was up to people. what sunak was up to yesterday was textbook gaslighting. don't fear us. hard working mps fear those neighbours of yours. instead he invoked to the wrong side of history, which is a reckless, some might say, desperate move by a puppet up to his strings. he's in the wrong side of history , i agreed on one line. history, i agreed on one line. he had that our britain must not

be a country in which we descend into polarised but he and into polarised camps, but he and his ilk have long since surrendered the right to say as much the same people who cheerfully and ruthlessly exploited propaganda to drive a divisive rhetoric when it got them what they wanted, now want everyone to pull together as one, as a shield , to protect one, as a shield, to protect them from the consequences of their actions . as the adage their actions. as the adage would have it, parliament is afraid of the people once more . afraid of the people once more. all of the people. this is a good thing. i am joined now by lawyer , i am joined now by lawyer, futurist, broadcaster all round smarty pants, a friend of the show, andrew eborn andrew, an unelected prime minister, makes a speech decrying a candidate who got in by a majority vote, calling that a threat to democracy . see? is that an democracy. see? is that an unedifying spectacle ? unedifying spectacle? >> it's crazy. first of all, i

have to say it's probably one of the best speeches that rishi has made. some and, and, and a lot of people have sort of said, this is what sort of happened. it's interesting. as soon as you get podium out there, you get the podium out there, you all going to call an all assume he's going to call an election, obviously election, which obviously didn't happen, number of points happen, but a number of points on firstly you say on it. firstly you can't say it's undemocratic when a democracy voted candidate, democracy voted in a candidate, you label somebody as you can't label somebody as extremist because they've you can't label somebody as extrem alternative ause they've you can't label somebody as extrem alternative viewthey've you can't label somebody as extrem alternative view to y've you can't label somebody as extrem alternative view to you. got an alternative view to you. we have to have an environment where we question everything, and as stifle and as soon as you stifle debate, you start debate, that's when you start having we need having problems, because we need to decisions. to make informed decisions. we're a diseased we're surrounded in a diseased information a lot of information world where a lot of the information that we're getting false. everybody getting is false. everybody suddenly become expert, suddenly become an expert, whether virologist or whether it's a virologist or it's to be somebody about it's going to be somebody about constitution so constitution and so on and so forth. that's what need forth. and that's what we need to is the experts, get to do is find the experts, get those legitimate questions answered, because without that, there's proper debate. there's not a proper debate. >> called his behaviour >> i called his behaviour yesterday . do you yesterday gaslighting. do you think that's justified ? because think that's justified? because as i saw it , think that's justified? because as i saw it, all sorts of problems are out there in the

world and in this country. and yet again, a prime minister, a politician . their first move is politician. their first move is to blame the people. yeah, some of the people divide the people , of the people divide the people, set one group against another, andifs set one group against another, and it's very difficult, as i say, because you can't shut down debate. >> and i think it's come together. doesn't mean you have together. doesn't mean you have to have the same opinion. a healthy democracy depends on a healthy democracy depends on a healthy debate and informed decisions. and as soon as you shut down that debate, that's when problems arise. i when the problems arise. but i think legitimate think there's some legitimate points. now points. i mean, politicians now are so that some of them are so scared that some of them are. i mean, people have already been murdered. some people are not standing again they not standing again because they fear their life. that is fear for their life. that is wrong. when talking wrong. so when you're talking about you have about the side of law, you have to abide within the to absolutely abide within the law. you've got the it's a freedom of speech, but it's not freedom of speech, but it's not freedom consequences. but freedom from consequences. but there is a difference between that legitimate debate, that and a legitimate debate, but that well, let's call it recklessness. >> for years where the contents of westminster felt able and justified in, in taking away one

freedom after another in one way or another. did stretching or ending uncounted numbers of lives, what on earth possessed them to think that they could operate in that way with impunity, without eventually, one or another, ending up one way or another, ending up facing people ? facing angry people? >> yeah, well, again, you've got to ask, well, why would they do it? they will always in it? and they will always say in their defence, they're trying to follow that it's not follow the science that it's not their what the their fault. this is what the scientists them to do, scientists told them to do, because that's the safest thing you have to lock people up to prevent the of, of prevent the spread of, uh, of covid on and so forth. covid and so on and so forth. >> now that that was all >> we know now that that was all nonsense. >> so that was all nonsense. >> so that was all nonsense. >> they were pushing nonsense and they were pushing and they knew they were pushing nonsense. they nonsense. and furthermore, they were therapies as were pushing gene therapies as vaccines no vaccines when there was no safety relating to safety evidence relating to those so real those products. so the real question , as say, question question, as i say, question everything, must be entitled question, as i say, question ev question must be entitled question, as i say, question ev question everything. entitled to question everything. >> they do that? >> why would they do that? >> why would they do that? >> well , why would they do that? >> well, why would they do that? >> well, why would they do that? >> i mean, i would say the whole thing was always predicated upon control, predicated upon power. shortening the leash . in fact,

shortening the leash. in fact, setting in train a sequence of events that had possibly been in the pipeline for decades. and what ever it was, whether it was brexit, whether it was trump, whether it was something else, a decision was taken to pull the trigger and get everyone back in their box. and now that box has exploded on them . exploded on them. >> yeah, interesting >> yeah, it's interesting because are in the because politicians are in the business re—elected, business of getting re—elected, so short terme for so it's very short terme for a lot of things. you have have lot of things. you have to have these to sure these policies to make sure you're re—elected the next you're re—elected in the next four but you still four years, but you still need to those fundamental to address those fundamental issues. you're issues. and i think you're right. should continue right. we should continue questioning shine right. we should continue quest light] shine right. we should continue quest light] less shine right. we should continue quest light] less heathine right. we should continue quest light] less heat one more light and less heat on these and get those answers. >> question everything. it's a break after which i'll break already. after which i'll be canadian trucker, be joined by a canadian trucker, gord about why gord mcgill, to talk about why four peace protesters who took part the truckers convoy were part in the truckers convoy were arrested, and left arrested, refused bail and left to languish jail for more to languish in jail for more than 700 days. don't go away

welcome back to neil oliver live now for truckers who took part in the freedom protests in canada in february 2022, were arrested then and held in prison for more than 700 days on conspiracy to commit murder, amongst other things . more than amongst other things. more than two years later, two of them are still awaiting trial in prison in alberta . still awaiting trial in prison in alberta. i'm still awaiting trial in prison in alberta . i'm joined now to in alberta. i'm joined now to talk about this by fellow trucker and political commentator. nowadays, gord mcgill. hi, gord. how are you doing ? doing? >> i'm well, mr oliver, thanks for having me as a fellow scotsman. it's good to hear your accent again. my mother is from airdrie . oh, really? airdrie. oh, really? >> oh, gosh. my goodness. okay, well, please call me neil. um, gord, if i can start canada and political prisoners . it sounds political prisoners. it sounds utterly bizarre that the canada that i grew up thinking of as the home of freedom would be holding some of its own citizens as political prisoners. can it be true ? be true? >> well, unfortunately, it is

true . and there are other true. and there are other actions of the government that prove it. many people who took part in the freedom convoy protests, uh, just regular participants who are expressing their democratic rights to protest in the streets of ottawa or at cootes, or at any number of other locations are still fighting. what, um , some people fighting. what, um, some people call lawfare , where the call lawfare, where the government is still litigating against them, still throwing charges at them, either , uh, charges at them, either, uh, delaying disclosure of evidence and in the cases of some people who were acquitted of charges they received for participating in the protests in the wake of the emergencies act invocation, are now having those acquittals appealed by the crown . so appealed by the crown. so they're being brought back into expensive litigation in the courts just because trudeau can't be shown to have been wrong , who are? wrong, who are? >> we're looking at pictures now. who are these men from? what backgrounds do they come ?

what backgrounds do they come? what backgrounds do they come? what was their you know, what was their history? uh, you know, they were now that they were accused of plotting to kill . accused of plotting to kill. >> right? the cootes four men, as they've become too known or just for regular working class guys. you know, jerry moran was a power lineman. uh, chris isaacs an electrician. tony oleynik was a trucker and owned a gravel quarry. uh chris kaba had a sort of, you know, a maintenance business. so there are just four regular working class guys who had suffered under the covid regime, as so many other millions of canadians and so many other people throughout the rest of the world. and they came to cootes this town on the border between, uh, america and canada, to protest and take part in their democratic rights . and it seems democratic rights. and it seems to me , once you investigate the to me, once you investigate the evidence that they have been used , used as, um, sacrifice used, used as, um, sacrifice devices to legitimate trudeau's invocation of the emergency act as there was no violence to be

found at any of the protest sites, and it's it looks like the rcmp and the crown can acted a fantasy that these guys were going to murder police officers . going to murder police officers. and they've been two of them have been in jail ever since. two of the gentlemen were let out a few weeks ago with all of the charges against them dropped on deals, where they signed on plea deals, where they signed off on minor gun charges that were not part of the original suite of charges they faced. which brings the entire artifice into question. and if you're paying into question. and if you're paying attention, like what does this say about your right to protest, your right to freedom of speech? if the government can pick you up at a totally peaceful protest, concoct a fantasy against you, put you in jail for two years, deny you bail, not even get the trial underway. and then at the end of it all, just say, oh well , sorry it all, just say, oh well, sorry about that. we're going to drop the charges now. like what? right to protest? do you actually now ? actually have now? >> you mentioned the emergency act , which was so

act, which was so controversially brought down by by trudeau's government . controversially brought down by by trudeau's government. i'm writing am i not that writing saying, am i not that a federal court has since, uh , federal court has since, uh, described invocation of that described the invocation of that act in those circumstances as illegal? anyway >> correct. um a federal judge ruled that justin trudeau had, in fact , illegally, um , taken in fact, illegally, um, taken away the rights . the charter away the rights. the charter protected rights of a couple of people who launched court challenges against it and did, in fact, rule that it was illegal. and what do you know? like i think it only took 17 minutes for trudeau's deputy, uh, chrystia freeland. and some of his other, uh, under kings to launch an appeal. like they didn't even have the time to read the nearly 200 pages of that ruling. they just appealed it immediately without even considered the fact that they may have been wrong . may have been wrong. >> andrew eborn, you're a lawyer. you're listening to that. how does that how does

that. how does that how does that sequence of events strike? >> it's abhorrent that people can be have their liberty taken away without any substantial evidence against them. the whole idea of the rule of law is that you should protect everybody , you should protect everybody, andifs you should protect everybody, and it's about that sort of side. and when you hear about these sort of cases , 700 days side. and when you hear about these awayf cases , 700 days side. and when you hear about these away from as , 700 days side. and when you hear about these away from their)0 days side. and when you hear about these away from their family; side. and when you hear about these away from their family , taken away from their family, um, put in solitary confinement, denied all sorts of human rights as a result of it. that's abhorrent and it must never happen again. we've had very recently number of examples recently a number of examples like post office, like here in the post office, same sort thing. people same sort of thing. people taken away, charged , having to away, wrongly charged, having to basically plea deal. you basically plea deal. if you like, order to get reduced like, in order to get reduced sentences or whatever. that sentences or whatever. now that is wrong. and it shouldn't be happening in the world. happening anywhere in the world. >> is there any is >> gord mcgill is there any is there any sign of consequences ? there any sign of consequences? you know, there's the government, the canadian government, the canadian government found to have acted illegally in bringing down the emergency act in the way that it did. uh, people accused of egregious crimes without any evidence brought forward so far ,

evidence brought forward so far, two of whom have been released with all charges dropped . with all charges dropped. there's a mounting list . you there's a mounting list. you know, the you know, the bona fide nazi veteran given a standing ovation in the canadian parliament is any of that wrapped labour seat looking like having any sort of consequences for the people responsible ? for the people responsible? >> no . um, and they call our >> no. um, and they call our prime minister teflon trudeau for a reason . you know, he's the for a reason. you know, he's the darling of the laurentian elite who really run the country . and who really run the country. and trudeau has done an amazing job at insulating himself from any legitimate or substantial critique in the media. uh, we have to remember that the mainstream media in canada, including the private broadcasters, not just the cbc , broadcasters, not just the cbc, were given a $600 million, um, sub sidi in 2019 and have received a number of top ups and extra money through various programs and trudeau has bought

himself a specifically with this case with the men from coutts, a code of silence. the media will not talk about it. they claim to hide behind a public ban, which the defence brought, but that , the defence brought, but that, pardon me, that publication ban was only on a narrow set of information involving, um, the information involving, um, the information to obtain for the warrants . but the government and warrants. but the government and the media could be asking these questions of the government. how come we have political prisoners in canada? why were two of these men kept in solitary confinement? why were they denied bail when none of them had criminal records ? and had criminal records? and they're totally upstanding citizens? been citizens? why have they been kept jail in this trial kept in jail in this trial hasn't got underway for two years. these questions years. all of these questions are and there's are legitimate and there's nothing stopping them from asking that they asking them except that they don't want to the hand that don't want to bite the hand that feeds them. trudeau bought feeds them. trudeau has bought the media, and we live in like it's just incredible how much they accuse us of peddling and misinformation and disinformation. they are guilty of lying to the canadian people

by failing to report on this case. >> andrew, this this , this >> andrew, this this, this failure by mainstream media to hold to the fire the feet of those responsible for what certainly seemed to be a egregious act. >> it's awfully familiar. >> it's awfully familiar. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> and it is worrying if we're going to be in that sort of say, what's great about this program is do call things out. you is you do call things out. you do say, let's question it doesn't mean we've got the answers, to. when answers, but we have to. when you hear about these abhorrent cases working on that cases and working on that sort of has to be of basis, there has to be somebody going to fight of basis, there has to be sontheydy going to fight of basis, there has to be sonthe underdog.]oing to fight of basis, there has to be sonthe underdog. and to fight of basis, there has to be sonthe underdog. and the fight of basis, there has to be sonthe underdog. and the fact for the underdog. and the fact that a number of cases that we've had a number of cases similar to this, where basically they don't happen until you make it itv drama something it an itv drama or something like that. nonsense. the like that. that's nonsense. the mainstream here mainstream media, we're here to always feet the fire. >> gord mcgill. >> gord mcgill. >> uh, more recently >> uh, trucker more recently commented writer and citizen journalist . thanks for commented writer and citizen journalist. thanks for joining me tonight. keep up the good work and perhaps we'll catch up again in the near future. thank you another break you very much. another break after which canadian journalist david craydon will join me to

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welcome back. thanks for staying . my next guest this evening is canadian journalist david kradin, who joins me and note for the first time to talk about the new online harms act being introduced in canada , billed as introduced in canada, billed as a way to address dangers that children face online. the act also includes the introduction of stiffer penalties for so—called hate offences stirring up hate. the bill proposes increasing the maximum punishment for advocating genocide to life imprisonment and allowing sentences of up to five years in prison for other hate propaganda offences . david, hate propaganda offences. david, are you there ? are you there? >> i am , and i, i'm wearing i'm

>> i am, and i, i'm wearing i'm wearing my think while it's still legal t shirt i usually have.i still legal t shirt i usually have. i have a tie on when i'm on your show, neal. but this is so important to get this across to an international audience. what's happening in canada ? we what's happening in canada? we are on the verge of losing freedom of speech with this onune freedom of speech with this online harms act. and i was expecting this thing to be called the online safety act. like it has been called in the uk and australia . but i think i uk and australia. but i think i registered my opprobrium to effect because they changed the name of it and they've moved from from calling out misinformation and disinformation , and now they're disinformation, and now they're focusing on hate speech and even something called harm content , something called harm content, which i'm not quite sure what what that means. but this bill, as you mentioned at the beginning, can get you life imprisonment for violating what

they're calling a harm online offence. and it can get you a $70,000 fine from one of these human rights tribunals, which are going to be recharged after stephen harper , the former prime stephen harper, the former prime minister, got them out of the hate speech business. so they're going to be up doing their spanish inquisition again. and people will be filing complaints from stand up comics to people on youtube who are in any way offending them or if it can be at all purported that they're somehow promoting these three things hate , arid, violent things hate, arid, violent extremism or terrorism or violence itself. and by that definition, neil, i would be promoting violent extremism by saying anything positive about the freedom convoy , because the freedom convoy, because that's how justin trudeau described the freedom convoy as misogynist, racist, nazis and

violent extremists. although of course , we all know they engaged course, we all know they engaged in absolutely no violence. but that's what we're up against, neil, this is frightening. this is a complete betrayal of 500 years of english speaking democracy from the magna carta on this is a violation of everything . canada has always everything. canada has always been about. >> dave . >> dave. >> dave. >> bear with me, andrew. this sounds obviously very obviously. it reminds us of the online safety bill in the uk that so many of us have been and continue to be alarmed about . continue to be alarmed about. where are we going, why are one government after another in supposedly liberal societies the tories seeking to shut down anyone who says anything they don't like the sound of? >> yes, you're absolutely right. we need to look at that freedom of speech aspect . and it is of speech aspect. and it is interesting talking about the change in language, whether

it's, you know, the online safety as opposed to the safety bill as opposed to the onune safety bill as opposed to the online that they're online harms act that they're talking canada. but talking about in canada. but a lot the things they're trying lot of the things they're trying to and they've to guard against, and they've got of which got the list of seven, which they about which you they talk about here, which you would obviously want to stop. and the ones of things basically anything induces a child to anything that induces a child to harm of harm themselves or that sort of stuff, videos that sort of stuff, videos on that sort of thing, that foments thing, content that foments hatred. looking hatred. if you're looking at that thing. the question that sort of thing. the question is, do you draw line? is, where do you draw the line? because to have a because you have to have a society we can discuss society where we can discuss things at same time, which things at the same time, which i like t shirt he's like the t shirt that he's wearing. because you're right, it's make it illegal to think. and really big and then we've got a really big problem society. problem in society. >> david, a journalist. >> david, you're a journalist. >> david, you're a journalist. >> working canada. but >> you're working in canada. but what's happening terms of what's happening in terms of other in your country other protests in your country is it is this being protested in parliament? is it being protested in the mainstream media in canada ? media in canada? >> there has been limited pushback from the legacy media in canada . pushback from the legacy media in canada. i'm not seeing. hurrah hurrah. we're doing something good with this bill.

the conservative opposition in the house of commons is not taking this bill seriously. sufficient seriously. and they have complained that it's simply all we have to do is prosecute these evil people out there who are exploiting children. but of course, that's not what this bill is about. that's the veneer . that is how trudeau is justifying it. and poilievre has complained about the fact that there's this new digital safety commission of canada, and he's right about that . we've created right about that. we've created another arm of bureaucracy. and i'm not i don't know if this is going to be a department within a department or an agency, but this is going to be effectively an online censorship bureau . rac an online censorship bureau. rac in canada. that is going to be responsible for deciding what is hate speech and what is not. and i've always said you, if you want to call karl marx hate speech , i think you could argue speech, i think you could argue that point . but i don't want to that point. but i don't want to start banning people i disagree with simply because i think they might say something that can be

construed by somebody , construed by somebody, somewhere, as hateful . this somewhere, as hateful. this whole hate speech law is should be anathema to democratic values, to freedom of speech. >> and when you say that , when >> and when you say that, when you say that, david, an anathema from where is this attitude coming in in peaceful, peace loving , supposedly liberal loving, supposedly liberal democratic societies like canada, like new zealand , like canada, like new zealand, like australia , like the uk ? australia, like the uk? >> what is underlying this drive now to shut down debate and freedom of speech, which is absolutely at the core of democracy as we've been trained for centuries to understand it. what's driving this ? what's driving this? >> i think it's clearly this, this lawless agenda that is being driven by globalist elites who want to destroy those

democratic countries who want to see democracy like the uk, like canada , like australia, new canada, like australia, new zealand and america , to do why zealand and america, to do why they do not want these countries to continue to exist as bastions of freedom, because that's not what their agenda is about. it's about enslaving. it's about taking over these countries . and taking over these countries. and trudeau is simply preaching and introducing this globalist agendain introducing this globalist agenda in the same way as we're seeing it in the european parliament, as we've seen it in your country, and we see it in the united states as well. that's what is going on here. this is a diabolical law, and i don't use that tum loosely. this is a very sinister attempt to control how people think and how they speak. and there's even thought crime in this bill, believe it or not, because you can be arrested for merely being suspected of perhaps shapps saying something hateful,

perhaps being guilty of harmful speech , and somebody literally speech, and somebody literally can can call me out for saying, i think creighton might say something hateful in the future, something hateful in the future, so we should take him off the air. i mean, that is something right out of nazi germany and soviet russia , where people used soviet russia, where people used to say the only time i felt like i could speak my mind or i could speak truth was at midnight, lying in bed, because that's when i thought , no, nobody was when i thought, no, nobody was really listening . and that is really listening. and that is what is so horrible about this is that it is going to force people to self—censorship. >> yeah . >> yeah. >> yeah. >> andrew eborn, again , i see >> andrew eborn, again, i see you're a lawyer. yes i've always understood that when it comes to laws that affect the lives of millions of people, it has to be tied down very, very precisely. but it feels that there's this inherent ambiguity in these new, uh , legislative offerings such uh, legislative offerings such that they're just open to interpretation . and should that

interpretation. and should that be the case that laws that could put people behind bars for life are just the subject of context and you're absolutely right. >> we touched on this earlier. it's the biggest problem is the label. if you look at the extreme cases you want don't want to have content in encouraging people to be violent. want content violent. you don't want content encouraging for terrorism encouraging people for terrorism or self—harm. all of those or to self—harm. all of those things abhorrent. the things are abhorrent. the difficulty is when you apply a label in the same way as we talked earlier. you say talked about earlier. you say somebody extremist they somebody is an extremist if they have opposite view, and have an opposite view, and that's difficulty. it's that's the real difficulty. it's about a about that interpretation. as a lawyer, want have a lawyer, you want to have a precise definition. that you precise definition. so that you do that our to do know that our right to freedom speech is not going freedom of speech is not going to affected. freedom of speech is not going to david cted. freedom of speech is not going to david creighton, just a last >> david creighton, just a last word from you while i still have you, uh, are the of you, uh, are the people of canada. get away from the canada. we get away from the media, get away from the politicians. of politicians. are the people of canada aware in the way that you would them to be aware of would like them to be aware of the implications of this legislation ? i hope they are. legislation? i hope they are. >> they're very difficult . it's >> they're very difficult. it's very difficult to gauge that

there has been a tremendous amount of discussion about this bill since monday afternoon, when it was introduced on social media. there seems to be a general consensus among most journalists that this is a destructive bill. and this is not really about protecting children or making things safer for children. it's about destroying free speech. so yes , destroying free speech. so yes, i think canadians will rally. my concern is this bill will pass before the next election. and once bills pass , they're once bills pass, they're difficult to repeal. they tend to become vested interests. indeed they are. >> david creedon, journalist, commentator. thank you so much for this evening. we'll speak again . another break, a final again. another break, a final break, after which i'll be telling you all about my new show, chewing the fat about it with andrew eborn here. uh, it's all change. i'll be going online and i'll also be on your tv screen, but on another time. uh, so much to tell you about. don't

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on mark dolan tonight, prince harry has lost his case against the home office for royal protection when he's in the uk, i'll be giving my verdict on whether the prodigal prince should have the same security as a serving royal. >> plus is antidepressant medication a scam ? i'll be medication a scam? i'll be asking a top expert who says popping asking a top expert who says popping the pills isn't always the answer. plus, my pundits mock meats and tomorrow's papers. we're live at nine. welcome back to neil oliver live i >> -- >> now, lam >> now, some might say it's selfish , indulgent, but i kind selfish, indulgent, but i kind of have the feeling that it might be a good idea to tell you in advance about changes to this show . there's always a lot of a show. there's always a lot of a lot of interest, a lot of feedback. i see a lot of comments on social media and all of the rest of it. and i thought

in advance of the changes rather than them, just suddenly appear as though through a trap door, we talk it through. and we could talk it through. and andrew's contributor andrew's a regular contributor to i thought to this show, so i thought i could, you know, a canvas, a little bit of opinion right up front. uh, changes are front. uh, but the changes are going come in next week. i going to come in next week. i will be, uh, appearing on in a two. i will hosting a two two. i will be hosting a two hour show, which will go out, first of all on a friday online. okay so it will go out by, you know , on the various apps and on know, on the various apps and on youtube and all of the rest of it. but by whatever means anyone accesses that kind of content. so that will be two hours. and then on a sunday on the on the following sunday at 6:00, which is usual time, but is the usual time, but a different day , a one hour different day, a one hour version of that show will be broadcast in the usual way. now for me, i'm very excited about having two hours again on those with long memories. might remember that i had two hours in the beginning and it became one houn the beginning and it became one hour. i'm very much looking

forward to the opportunity to give conversations, the chance to and to get properly to breathe, and to get properly into the topic, let people into the topic, to let people relax into conversation. um so with that, as a prospect, andrew, what do you make of the of the all new neil oliver? >> well, it's something that we've spoken about. every time we've spoken about. every time we finish a program, we've always said, i've had the joy of being possible being with every possible iteration, the down iteration, whether it's the down the studio or here. the westminster studio or here. we've oh, wish we we've always said, oh, i wish we had time with guest had more time with this guest because to get because it was about to get really interesting and unpack it more. so i'm delighted that you've it's also you've got two hours. it's also the a lot of media is going. the way a lot of media is going. you to be more platforms you need to be more platforms than paddington. as i always say, on sort say, you turn out on that sort of basis. so to get a full two hours of you basically hours of you and basically unpacking stuff, it also helps around world because you around the world because you get different so on and different timings and so on and so you've got america so forth. you've got america waking different times, waking up at different times, australia so australia and so on and so forth, you've got an amazing forth, and you've got an amazing global figures global audience. the figures you're social you're doing on these social media platforms are just tremendous. >> yeah. mean, there is >> yeah. and i mean, there is it's the idea of gb news america. yes you know, there is

an an offering that is being shaped to that, you shaped and offered to that, you know, of hundreds know, audience of hundreds of millions and that's, yes, of america. and as you say, i very much look forward to the possibility of it being deterred . findlay pushed out to a global audience as well as to the cherished viewership here in the uk. >> and it is it is incredible. i see the feedback to the show and the brilliant comments that people come in and it's all over the world, so they're watching at on youtube and at the moment on youtube and various platforms, as not various other platforms, as not necessarily way. so necessarily in a linear way. so you that sort of basis. you you need that sort of basis. you need sure that we bring need to make sure that we bring neil oliver to the world and your gets heard. also your voice gets heard. but also you've reason to you've then got the reason to unpack. and we always say that people of time. people are running out of time. and how many shows have you and i sat through and said, oh, we should had time with should have had more time with this it was just getting this guest. it was just getting interesting. out of time. >> we're running out of time. >> we're running out of time. >> that's all for week. big >> that's all for this week. big thank to all my guests. uh, thank you to all my guests. uh, thanks as always to andrew eborn. any time now. with eborn. any time now. stay with us. be the saturday five us. it will be the saturday five and will see you in a new and i will see you in a new way

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then for most it's a bright and cheery day. plenty of sunny spells, a scattering of showers across western parts of the uk, and this weather front close to the east could give some patchy rain. along the east coast, temperatures up a little bit compared to saturday, bit more compared to saturday, a bit more brightness around it will just feel a little less cold then into monday. this weather system starts into western starts to move into western areas, bringing some outbreaks of rain and brisk winds of heavy rain and brisk winds too. elsewhere a cold, frosty start, but then plenty of sunshine across the north and east through the day and temperatures a little higher once it remains mixed. once more. it remains mixed. tuesday and towards middle tuesday and towards the middle of week, but temperatures of the week, but temperatures a little above average. you soon! >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on .

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