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it's 3:00. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom . huge crowds are the gb newsroom. huge crowds are marching through central london and glasgow demonstrating against the war in gaza. thousands of people taking part in the palestine solidarity campaign protest, demanding an immediate ceasefire in london. the gathering has reached the us embassy, where a stage has been set up for speeches. earlier, officers warned a robust plan is in place to tackle hate crime after the counter—terror sa said the capital has become a no go zone for jews . the capital has become a no go zone forjews . the met police zone for jews. the met police says the protests in london have cost the force more than £32 million over the past five months. the meanwhile, the head of foreign affairs committee has accused israel of blocking aid, getting into gaza humanitarian suppues getting into gaza humanitarian supplies are being airdropped as the crisis in the region deepens . a ship carrying aid is also said to be ready to deploy at a moment's notice. it's hoping to leave cyprus this weekend . leave cyprus this weekend. that's after the uk, us and the eu announced plans to create a

maritime corridor with a temporary port to be built off the coast of gaza in the coming weeks . in other news, two mps weeks. in other news, two mps have used a social media post to demand more defence spending in further signs of tension within the tory party. foreign office minister anne—marie trevelyan and security minister tom tugendhat published an article appearing to criticise the absence of funds in the budget for defence. they're calling for an increase in spending to at least 2.5% of gdp, citing global risks posed by countries such as russia and china . two mothers of russia and china. two mothers of two teenagers killed in nottingham say they've lost faith in the justice system . faith in the justice system. valdo calocane was handed a hospital order for manslaughter by diminished responsibility after stabbing 19 year old students barnaby webber and grace o'malley kumar , as well as grace o'malley kumar, as well as school caretaker ian coates. in june last year. school caretaker ian coates. in june last year . the teenager's june last year. the teenager's parents have now criticised the police and crown prosecution service, telling the times they felt foolish for thinking they

would see justice properly served . a london fertility served. a london fertility clinic has had its licence to operate suspended due to significant concerns about the unit . the telegraph newspaper unit. the telegraph newspaper says the centre had been reported to be to the police over fears embryos were being destroyed. the home and fertility centre in east london admitted errors in its freezing processes had to led some embryos either not surviving or being undetectable . the being undetectable. the suspension means the unit will not be able to accept any new bookings for treatment, but existing patients can still access its services. a new honoun access its services. a new honour, the elizabeth emblem, has been created to recognise pubuc has been created to recognise public servants who have died in the line of duty. the fathers of murdered police officers , pcs murdered police officers, pcs fiona bone and nicola hughes, who were killed in greater manchester in 2012, campaigned for three years to secure the award. bryn hughes and paul bone have described the decision as both humbling and overwhelming .

both humbling and overwhelming. >> i'm very pleased and for all the police that have lost their lives in service that they're now getting recognition by the state and for all the families involved. it will be a privilege to have them. it's been nearly three years campaigning for me, and, you know, it's finally to be announced. it's i think in one respect, it's humbling, a bit overwhelming , but so pleased bit overwhelming, but so pleased for everybody not for everybody and not just police as as we police officers as well as we found out, it's for everybody in pubuc found out, it's for everybody in public and that will public service and that will mean those families. mean a lot for those families. i think . think. >> and meghan markle says she suffered hateful and cruel onune suffered hateful and cruel online abuse while she was pregnant. speaking at an event in texas, she criticised the toxicity and lack humanity on toxicity and lack of humanity on the internet and across parts of the internet and across parts of the media. >> the bulk of the bullying and abuse that i was experiencing in social media and online was when i was pregnant with archie and with lily, and with a newborn, with lily, and with a newborn, with each of them . and you just with each of them. and you just think about that, and you , it's

think about that, and you, it's really wrap your head around why people would be so hateful. it's not catty . not catty. >> it's time for the latest story. sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. com slash alerts. now it's back to . nana. >> good afternoon. it is five minutes after 3:00. i'm nana akua. this is gb news. we are the people's channel and it's time to mock the week. and what a busy one it's been. one full of anticipation of jeremy hunts budget , of anticipation of jeremy hunts budget, which sadly was a bit of a damp squid. on wednesday , a damp squid. on wednesday, jeremy deployed it with a lot of promises like removing the national insurance tax after the election. so that's not going to happen. pensioners now face a £1,000 hit and he's stolen one of labour's worst policies . of labour's worst policies. removing the non—dom status thereby unsettle many wealthy

voters. their loss could end up being a net loss not if but when they all flee the uk . talk about they all flee the uk. talk about isolating your core audience . isolating your core audience. >> from april the 6th, employee national insurance will be cut by another £0.02 from 10% to 8, and self—employed national insurance will be cut from 8% to 6. >> it means an additional £450 a year for the average employee, or £350 for someone self—employed . self—employed. >> and in the meantime, whilst making , >> and in the meantime, whilst making, markle appears to be scrabbling about for yet another pr company , apparently with the pr company, apparently with the task of cleaning up her image in the uk . the uk. >> good luck with that. princess catherine has deployed her best pr machine ever. her uncle, gary goldsmith, been dishing goldsmith, who's been dishing the dirt on the dastardly montecito duo, sadly , his time montecito duo, sadly, his time in the house came to an abrupt end and he was booted off the show yesterday, but not before affirming many thought

affirming what many thought about the sussexes for really judging her to see two beloved sons warring that way is heartbreaking. >> i genuinely think that they should take the titles away . should take the titles away. >> yeah, yeah, take, take the titles, do you.7 yeah titles, do you? yeah >> meghan complains again on international women's day. >> bulk of the bullying and abuse that i was experiencing in social media and online was when i was pregnant with archie and with lily, and with a newborn with lily, and with a newborn with each of them, and you just think about that . and you, it's think about that. and you, it's really wrap your head around why people would be so hateful . people would be so hateful. well, it's not catty. it's cruel. >> just don't read it then. anyway, you can talk more in my monologue , indian willoughby monologue, indian willoughby calls the police because he was called a he by jk rowling, which is biologically and grammatically correct . grammatically correct. >> he is a he because he is a

man. he called that a hate crime. i call it the truth. so you reported jk rowling. >> i have reported jk rowling to the police . yeah. the police. yeah. >> no further action was taken. by >> no further action was taken. by the way, a more rats leaving the sinking tory ship as theresa may decides enough is enough and announces that she will be stepping down after the next general election, whenever that is. forget is. but who can forget that disaster speech? all its diversity , compassion and diversity, compassion and strength that were shared around the globe? >> ten years after northern rock , our economy is back on track. the deficit is back to pre—crisis levels . it's as if my pre—crisis levels. it's as if my voice isn't on track . our voice isn't on track. our opponents flirt with a foreign policy of neutrality and prepare for a run on the ground. >> boris , some people say we've >> boris, some people say we've spent too much time talking

about jeremy corbyn's past . about jeremy corbyn's past. >> she lost her voice. the lettuce fell off the wall behind her words failed. >> literally. between that and a hustler, she may have danced on the stage, but she limped off it and i failed. the north face anti—racism quiz , which is quite anti—racism quiz, which is quite handy, but i managed to get myself on the front of the daily mail. it's been a mucky old week . coming up, gb news presenter darren grimes will be making light of this week's top stories in mock the week. then, at 315, we'll covering we'll be covering the pro—palestine marches taking place across the uk and crossing live to israel to hear the latest from performer and mystifier geller . at 335, mystifier uri geller. at 335, doctor hoenderkamp will be doctor renee hoenderkamp will be live to discuss whether the effects of menopause have been overblown , known and james overblown, known and james matthewson is in the political spotlight. week as he joins spotlight. this week as he joins me to shine a on this

me to shine a light on this week's political stories week's top political stories that's coming up. tell me what you everything we're you think on everything we're discussing . email gb at gb discussing. email gb views at gb news. me at gb news. com or tweet me at gb news. com or tweet me at gb news. . so joining me to mock news. as. so joining me to mock the week is gb news presenter darren grimes. grimy grime, so grimy darren nana yeah yeah you're grimy. >> i am very incredibly, especially on the weekend. >> yeah, any wahaca knock knock. anyway so darren grimes, what do you make of you? >> listen to the budget. did it did it shout at you and say, this is a good thing for the tory party? if they announced anything that. >> and anything that. >> absolutely not. and the polls reflect that people are just so completely disillusioned, you know, only five points know, reformer only five points behind the tories now tories at 20% in some opinion polls. to me . right. it was fiddling while rome burns. right. it was focusing on a2p national insurance tax cut . they were insurance tax cut. they were talking about scrapping national insurance altogether. well

listen you had an 80 seat majority mate. what have you done with right it's been done with it? right it's been sweet, all. and i'm afraid sweet, naff all. and i'm afraid to the british people to say that the british people are losing patience. are just losing patience. a £0.02 national insurance cut. they're not going to that they're not going to feel that with inflation at levels we've experienced over the last year or so. or 50. >> or so. >> so it's only helping those in work as well. yes, exactly. >> and i think it was unfair for some commentators and dare i say, there are far too many of them who say pensioners need to start paying their fair share. pensioners already pay tax. i think that's something that's forgotten all too often. we have this vision in our head of pensioners sat in wealthy mansions, you know, millions of pounds worth in assets, sat there with all sorts of taxpayer benefits, but they are actually tax payers if they earn over a certain amount. so i just don't buy that they're living in a land of milk and honey. there are struggling pensioners out there. i think the only funny thing from the budget was jeremy hunfs thing from the budget was jeremy hunt's basically his jibe at

angela rayner over her capital gains tax potentially being liable for a grand after she sold her ex—council house that she bought under right to buy a policy nana that she by the way, now opposes. she wants to pull up the ladder behind her and deny else. like my deny everybody else. like my mother bought a ex—council mother who bought a ex—council house underwriter buy. so i thought, , it was a missed thought, no, it was a missed opportunity. and i'm afraid now they were in last chance saloon. now they're, you know, drinking at the bar , ready for the bar to at the bar, ready for the bar to go down with i'm afraid go down with them. i'm afraid they'll be under the bar. >> it's really, you know . and >> it's really, you know. and the thing is, for a lot of people, they are conservative voters . they support the voters. they support the conservative when conservative party. but when you listen of the commentary listen to any of the commentary on the radio or anything, normal people saying, i people just talking, saying, i just can't them. no, just can't vote for them. no, you they opened his speech you know, they opened his speech by saying £1 million for a muslim memorial. no what was muslim war memorial. no what was he thinking? if you're going to do that, which think you do that, which i don't think you need farage need to do, and as nigel farage pointed dead pointed out, all the war dead are in the same place. we

are buried in the same place. we are buried in the same place. we are all the same. we are united in . there shouldn't be one in death. there shouldn't be one race another. race or one group above another. somebody it's not necessary. £1 million and you kick it off with that? i don't know, i just don't know what they were thinking with that. this is almost as bad as may talked as theresa may when she talked about fox hunting, when it's like, most don't hunt. >> why bother? you know we >> why bother? you know why? we already commonwealth already have commonwealth war memorials is and memorials, which is right and proper. we celebrate the proper. we already celebrate the fact you are here in fact that if you are here in this country, you're british this country, you're a british national, you've been national, right? if you've been here generations, if you've here for generations, if you've served british army, served in the british army, you're a british national. i don't why to don't understand why we need to segregate people , especially in segregate people, especially in an of increasing secular an age of increasing secular tension where religious sectarianism with the election of george galloway is become an all too frequent. so i just think this is the wrong move and the tories are being appeasers and it won't it won't help them. >> well, of course george galloway will be being interviewed on gb news. i think it's at 6:00 after my show tomorrow. exactly neil oliver will be taking him on. they do talk a lot. know i've seen

talk a lot. i know i've seen some podcasts and things some of his podcasts and things and think galloway and i think george galloway is right there will smaller right that there will be smaller parties. i don't parties. there'll be. i don't think is a foregone think this is a foregone conclusion for the labour party at all. >> y be interesting >> it's going to be interesting at all. >> but a slightly >> but on a slightly lighter note, on with meghan note, as we move on with meghan markle, who appears to have dropped company , or dropped her pr company, or they've dropped her, we'll come to minute. but, gary to her in a minute. but, gary goldsmith, have you been watching brother? watching any of big brother? >> have, caught a bit of >> i have, i've caught a bit of it. i actually it. nana yes. and now i actually think family, the think the royal family, the buckingham palace especially, will a of will be breathing a sigh of relief with him being booted out, actually, i think out, because actually, i think basically he said he suggested that if kate announces anything whilst he's in there, he'll then you know , do a sort of tell all you know, do a sort of tell all on what's been going on and her illness and all the rest of it. i haven't spoken to her mother, and all the rest of it. so i think buckingham palace will have tenterhooks, sort have been on tenterhooks, sort of life in of absolutely living life in peril, what he's going peril, fearing what he's going to say, he called for meghan and harry to lose their titles. now you and can say that. but you and i can say that. but a member, albeit a distant member

of the royal family, saying he's not news, he's not not really news, he's not a member . well, i know he's not. member. well, i know he's not. >> a normal person so he member. well, i know he's not. >> say a normal person so he member. well, i know he's not. >> say he 1ormal person so he member. well, i know he's not. >> say he has|al person so he member. well, i know he's not. >> say he has the )erson so he member. well, i know he's not. >> say he has the similaro he member. well, i know he's not. >> say he has the similar you can say he has the similar you freedom, but then he's marketing himself. >> what i found , i found it, i >> what i found, i found it, i found him to an found him to be quite an arrogant narcissist. he's clever , he's clever, he's got his own business. his own business. he's got his own money. yeah money. he's made money. yeah absolutely but he absolutely good for him. but he was like, one was saying things like, i'm one of. i'm a man in britain. of. i'm a hated man in britain. i'm i didn't know he i'm sorry. i didn't know who he was. i doubt many viewers was. and i doubt many viewers and who was and listeners knew who he was ehhen and listeners knew who he was either. think you are either. i don't think you are a hated man in britain. >> he's talking about royal >> he's talking about the royal family. well, potentially. >> potentially. >> potentially. >> that's to be >> yeah. so that's going to be interesting. now the next interesting. and now the next thing that i talked about was meghan complaining on meghan markle complaining on international women's day. i don't whether any don't know whether you saw any of speech. was of her speech. yeah, i was quite funny was roll. funny because she was on a roll. and this woman interrupted and then this woman interrupted her. it was quite funny. her. it was really quite funny. >> you would have >> i mean, you would have to write and let's get you up on stage next international stage nana next international women's you put women's day, and you can put her in place. honestly, in her place. but honestly, i think of , well, think this is a case of, well, frankly, how dare she say that? because this is a woman, right? who in the final years of the

late duke of edinburgh and of course her majesty the queen's life, where her majesty the queen in some reports had blood cancen queen in some reports had blood cancer, and the duke of edinburgh of course, was very getting on in his twilight years and she ruined those years, right. her and harry made their lives an utter misery through their own selfishness. kiss and tell through books and all the rest of it. and she wants to talk about hate online. what about all the hate that she put out about the royal family accusing them of bigotry, racism, all the rest of it? she made their lives a living hell. so turn the other one if you. what a hypocrite, right ? how what a hypocrite, right? how dare she say anything like that? so i don't think anyone in this country. you said at the start there nana. she's hired a pr team to try and revive her image in the united kingdom. forget that mate, more that mate, you've got more chance reviving. i don't chance of reviving. i don't know, going to be know, it's going to be a complete nightmare her complete nightmare for her in attempts do that. and these attempts to do that. and these people will be laughing the people will be laughing all the way because it ain't way at the bank because it ain't going happen.

going to happen. >> another company >> they will. another company will obviously will bite the dust. obviously having a of money off having taken a lot of money off them still not. think them and they still not. i think they'll end up broke if they'll end up quite broke if they're now what they're not careful. now what about willoughby ? yeah, about india willoughby? yeah, because to because you don't have to call somebody pronoun they somebody by the pronoun they want you to call them. it's down to somebody can't tell you to your. somebody can't tell you how that you should address someone. guide you, but someone. they can guide you, but they can't force you. and it's certainly not a hate crime, especially are the especially when you are the thing calling you. thing that they are calling you. >> actually >> well, labour would actually like exactly. get like to exactly. if they get into government, talking into government, they're talking about actually making misgendering and misogyny and about actually making misthe dering and misogyny and about actually making misthe rest1g and misogyny and about actually making misthe rest of and misogyny and about actually making misthe rest of it d misogyny and about actually making misthe rest of it d hategyny and about actually making misthe rest of it d hate crimes|d all the rest of it a hate crimes and these other things. but and all these other things. but jk rowling got involved this. jk rowling got involved in this. of , and actually said of course, and actually said into your willoughby is a man biological fact, immutable fact. you can't change that. that's the way things are now for danng the way things are now for daring to call a spade a spade . daring to call a spade a spade. she's been dragged through the press again now, actually , if press again now, actually, if you ask me, india willoughby is a parody of what a woman is, right? this is. this is an act. now you can wear what you want. and j.k. rowling herself has said this. you can wear what you

want. you can call yourself whatever can whatever you want, but you can never change reality. you can never change reality. you can never change reality. you can never change what is immutable, scientific fact. and for saying that she is dragged the that she is dragged through the press , her name is muddied and press, her name is muddied and all the rest of it. now she's big enough, rich enough to be able the but able to take the hate. but i find it so admirable that she is choosing because find it so admirable that she is choosindinner because find it so admirable that she is choosin dinner tables)ecause find it so admirable that she is choosin dinner tables in:ause find it so admirable that she is choosin dinner tables in thee find it so admirable that she is choosindinner tables in the book around dinner tables in the book circuit world, in the media world, television world, she's been dragged by the former stars of harry potter, of course, whose careers she made , for whose careers she made, for saying things like this. but india willoughby is just trying to do this for two minutes of fame and it's working for her. that's what. have you seen him without the wig? that's what i don't like . well, yes indeed don't like. well, yes indeed indeed. it's indeed. i mean, it's extraordinary because i do. >> it's a parody what a woman >> it's a parody of what a woman is. is a biological is. a woman is a biological reality. and that's what makes me to have me a woman. being able to have children or being able to have the facility within me, or a womb, things or womb, or the things or menstruation. and also, you know, that know, all the things that happen, menopause. these are the biological realities that make a

woman a woman, that make us, make us different from a man. >> you saying and >> but you saying that you and i saying that and jk rowling, we're get put prison we're going to get put in prison , going to be , right? we're all going to be in together. what , right? we're all going to be intime together. what , right? we're all going to be intime we together. what , right? we're all going to be intime we willjether. what , right? we're all going to be intime we will have. what a time we will have. >> i know, but they call it gender critical. which gender critical. but which prison? i'm prison? i might just decide. i'm a to a man's prison. a man and go to a man's prison. i have great time. and i might have a great time. and finally, north. finally, i failed the north. the nonh north face quiz. >> brilliant piece. >> brilliant piece. >> nana you liked it? >> nana you liked it? >> get your 20% >> did you get your 20% discount? didn't. discount? you didn't. >> didn't get it. was almost >> i didn't get it. was almost as blocked as though they'd blocked me because is there's as though they'd blocked me b

product . these jackets are product. these jackets are pretty expensive jackets. if they us all 20% they want to give us all 20% off, you know, why don't they just the prices little bit? >> well, that's what i thought. and you look at it, if and if you look at it, if apparently and it's true that apparently and if it's true that ethnic minorities are predominantly less well off than their counterparts, well, their white counterparts, well, they're selling they're certainly selling a jacket for £500 for. and the reason don't on slopes is reason we don't go on slopes is too damn cold. >> but why is racist to >> but why is it racist to suggest that actually, if a black want to black people primarily want to live all the rest live in cities and all the rest of it, why on earth is that racist? i don't understand diagrams. >> it's not. but stay tuned. after six, darren grimes will be with you with sad day five. thank you so thanks, nana. thank you so much. thanks, nana. that graeme le we that was dan graeme le saux. we were the week. is were mucking the week. this is gb tv, and on gb news on tv, online and on digital coming the digital radio. coming up. is the menopause medicalised? digital radio. coming up. is the menop seen medicalised? digital radio. coming up. is the menop seen lotnedicalised? digital radio. coming up. is the menop seen lot ofdicalised? digital radio. coming up. is the menop seen lot ofdicalisgoing you've seen a lot of stars going , 0h, you've seen a lot of stars going , oh, the menopause, it , oh, the menopause, is it really? bad? i'll be really? is it that bad? i'll be speaking to a gp to find out more. whether the davina effect is overblown, the negative effect. up next, the latest effect. but up next, the latest from the pro—palestine marches taking place across britain today , as we also hear from uri today, as we also hear from uri geller, in israel. geller, he's live in israel.

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s go unchallenged for way too long, right. so joining me now in is jubilee news scotland reporter tony maguire . hey, reporter tony maguire. hey, tony, good to talk to you, where are you and what's been happening ? happening? >> good afternoon. nana. well the protesters now been gone quite a long event today, it has to be said. and there was discussion and talks going on from just after half 11 today. and that carried all the way through to early afternoon when i kind of saw small march almost as a half time march , if you as a half time march, if you like, walked around some of the streets in the city centre here in glasgow and then returned back to george square, where i'm just now behind me, you can see the proud building of glasgow city council, the city chambers on george square and indeed more talks. resumed now, though there was quite a lot of people i noficed was quite a lot of people i noticed here today in face coverings, particularly these new face masks that have seen very much like 90s plastic, poor

quality halloween masks only they were covered with the palestine flag. but still somehow quite eerie when they're looking at you dead in the eye and rather unsettling . and of and rather unsettling. and of course, there yes, there is the chance which we've come to recognise now is being taken, is heavily anti—semitic by some people from the river to the sea, but quite a small police presence today. and, you know, they certainly weren't keen to get involved too much. and police scotland have, have almost followed in the footsteps of the met police as to say that, you know, they're going to stand back and unless significant events occur and they're not going to get involved. and police scotland, of course, earlier this week reporting that they're no longer able to react to every crime, especially those that there are no evidence such as cctv etc. so, you know, altogether rather relatively peaceful day here.

but, you know, it was interesting. at one point someone had obviously done a quick google, and worked out who i was , didn't take too kindly to i was, didn't take too kindly to the channel and proceeded to go around all the stallholders warning them effectively of my presence, which is a bit disheartening , to be honest, disheartening, to be honest, because as reporters, as gb news video journalists all around the country, it's our job just to report the news. certainly not to make it. but on the whole, everyone was extremely friendly and as you might expect. but, these marches, this is now five months in and week after week. we're lucky in glasgow because it's contained here in the pedestrianised area of george square. but i can only imagine listening to catherine earlier on how hectic it is down there in london. >> yeah, well, listen, tony, thank you very much. shame that they are so anti gb news. they've probably never watched it. that's usually the way. thank you much tony thank you very much tony mcguire. there in glasgow, mcguire. he's there in glasgow, south right south scotland. reporter. right well joining me now from israel

to discuss the conflict there is mr farage. brighella ulry. thank you so much forjoining me. it's good to see you, so thank you so talk to me. what's been happening? okay. >> first of all, nana, don't worry. >> i'm not going to show that route. sculpture again, dear, do you remember last week when i showed to you with this figurine? well, i won't show it again, but if anyone wants to see that clip , go to my twitter see that clip, go to my twitter page and you will see the dodi how. >> now. >> no no, no. >> last week i had a message for george galloway and this week i have a message for the british foreign secretary , lord cameron. foreign secretary, lord cameron. nana. please let me deliver it. so here we go. david. david cameron , what are you playing cameron, what are you playing at? i'm shocked by what you have said about israel. whose side are you on? you have criticised the israel over aid. you have

warned israel that your patience is running thin and you have called for a pause in the fighting. now look, lord cameron, what planet are you living on? you think britain is still in charge here? i'm sorry to say that ended in 1948. let me educate you. you britain needs israel much more than israel needs you. remember the jihadists, the jihadists are already there in the uk. they're taking over the streets of london. you just said it, nana. and you interviewed your man from the street, and they are even electing your mps now. you know, nana, i've met most prime ministers, in the uk , in ministers, in the uk, in england. this is me and david. but and by the way, i was shocked when i saw this on

twitter. this is i mean , a twitter. this is i mean, a pro—palestinian protester destroys a painting of lord balfour at the university of cambridge. i don't know if you spoke about this. >> yeah, this is shocking. yeah, yeah. he's great. >> he's tearing now, now, now, now there is something very important to tell you and important i want to tell you and your viewers. you will hear it nowhere . nowhere else. now nowhere. nowhere else. now people are very distracted at the moment by the war in gaza. we all know that. but i want to warn you, i want to warn everyone , you and your viewers. everyone, you and your viewers. don't take your eyes off iran. i have predicted many things in my life. did you know i publicly said , that, gamal abdel nasa said, that, gamal abdel nasa will die? he was the, you know, the leader of egypt . i said it the leader of egypt. i said it in an auditorium before it was known by anyone. i announced it on a on a stage in front of hundreds of people. people

thought i, i was, i went mad, and now i'm warning you about iran. this week and i'll finish with this this week. one of israel's best known journalists. his name is nadav , reported that his name is nadav, reported that three security officials in israel, all informed him that iran is racing to get. this is important to get components for the nuclear bomb. these people know what they're talking about. ihave know what they're talking about. i have a very , very bad feeling i have a very, very bad feeling about this. look, nana one of the most respected think tanks in the world. they're called the institute for science and international security. they have said iran's nuclear threat is an extreme danger. i'm telling you, the world must wake up. take out iran's nuclear program, or we are facing armed aiden you think? >> well, we hope we're not. you know , we're hoping that people

know, we're hoping that people will see, sense and behave in a normal way. and david cameron would probably say that he's trying in the best trying to work in the best interests the people gaza, interests of the people of gaza, because a of death because he's seen a lot of death and destruction and we are with him in respect. but hamas him in that respect. but hamas hand hostages and stop hand back the hostages and stop firing uri geller, firing the missiles. uri geller, thank much . good to thank you very much. good to talk to you. that's. uri geller there, live aviv. this is there, live in tel aviv. this is gb news on the way. political spotlight. be joining gb news on the way. political spotligime be joining gb news on the way. political spotligime shine ning gb news on the way. political spotligime shine ang gb news on the way. political spotligime shine a light. joining me to shine a light. former party advisor former labour party advisor matthew i'll matthew james matthewson. i'll be getting his thoughts on george galloway. also sir george galloway. and also sir keir starmer. but first, let's get your latest news headlines with ray. >> thanks, nana 332. >> thanks, nana 332. >> our top stories this hour. >> our top stories this hour. >> huge crowds are marching through central london and glasgow, demonstrating against the war in gaza . hey hey hey the war in gaza. hey hey hey palestine , hey free palestine. palestine, hey free palestine. well, thousands have been taking part in the palestine solidarity campaign protest, demanding an

immediate ceasefire in london. >> the gathering has reached the us embassy, where a stage has been set up for speeches . been set up for speeches. >> earlier on, the met police warned that a robust plan is in place to tackle hate crime after the counter terrorism tsar said the counter terrorism tsar said the capital has become a no go zone for jews. >> the met says london protests have cost £32 million over the past five months. well, meanwhile , the head of the meanwhile, the head of the foreign affairs committee has accused israel of blocking aid, getting into gaza humanitarian suppues getting into gaza humanitarian supplies are being airdropped as the crisis in the region deepens . a ship carrying aid is also said to be ready to deploy at a moment's notice. it's hoping to leave cyprus this weekend. that's after the uk, us and the eu announced plans to create a maritime corridor with a temporary port to be built off the coast of gaza in the coming weeks. two mps have used a social media post to demand more

defence spending in further signs of tension within the tory party. foreign office minister anne—marie trevelyan and security minister tom tugendhat post published a article appearing to criticise the absence of funds in the spring budget. they're calling for an increase in spending to at least 2.5% of gdp, citing global risks posed by countries such as russia and china. a new honour, the elizabeth emblem, has been created to recognise public servants who've died in the line of duty. the fathers of murdered police officers, pc fiona bone and nicola hughes , who were and nicola hughes, who were killed in greater manchester in 2012, campaigned for three years to secure the award. bryn hughes and paul bowen have described the decision as both humbling and overwhelming . well, for the and overwhelming. well, for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code. it's on your screen right now or why not go to gb news. com slash alerts. okay back to .

nana. >> welcome back. if you've just tuned in. where have you been? all right. this is tv news on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana acas coming up to 37 minutes 38 minutes. even minutes or 38 minutes. even after 3:00. i'm nana akua now. experts are warning against the menopause being treated like a disease rather than a normal part of ageing. disease rather than a normal part of ageing . in a paper part of ageing. in a paper published in the lancet medical journal, academics argue the natural hormonal change that typically affects women between aged 45 to 55 has been over medicalized in recent years. celebrities like davina mccall, she's got mama, have really brought attention to the negative experiences that some women in the menopause. although that's not to say that she hasn't done a good thing by making about it a making people talk about it a bit . and of course, bit more. and of course, treatment hormone

treatment options like hormone replacement hrt. replacement therapy or hrt. experts are warning that a commercial interests are leading to menopause awareness campaigns being hijacked to sell services and products. well, what's new so is the menopause over medicalized? joining me to discuss doctor renee hoenderkamp. hello renee, thank you for joining hoenderkamp. hello renee, thank you forjoining me. as i say your name right. >> nearly. >> nearly. >> hindu camp under camp. >> hindu camp under camp. >> oh, under camp. there we go. >> oh, under camp. there we go. >> everyone just calls me doctor renee. >> okay. doctor renee. that's not actually. doctor not easy, actually. so, doctor renee, what do you renee, what do you. what do you think of that? do you believe that some of these celebrities are of making to be are kind of making it out to be are kind of making it out to be a deal are kind of making it out to be a deal, when actually a big old deal, when actually majority of women don't actually with it ? with it? >> well, i hate to correct you, nana straight away on our call, but 85% of women, as they go through menopause will experience one of the many symptoms. >> and there are at least 40. >> and there are at least 40. >> and there are at least 40. >> and i think people think of hot flushes so they don't get hot flushes so they don't get hot flushes. they haven't got symptoms, but it's far broader than that. they get brain fog,

joint pain , fatigue, low libido , joint pain, fatigue, low libido, tinnitus, things like this, skin itching , skin products that they itching, skin products that they i'm sorry, skin surface . i'm sorry, skin surface. >> they feel like they've got insects crawling under their skin. >> the list of symptoms for menopause is actually far wider than can imagine, but i than you can imagine, but i think there's a much more important part of this. >> once women get past menopause and lose their oestrogen. >> yes, it's a natural ageing pi'ocess. >> process. >> i don't dispute that for a second, but in the past we didn't really know how to treat it. >> we didn't know, what to do and women just fell by the wayside. >> marriages ended , women left >> marriages ended, women left work, they couldn't cope anymore. >> and life was pretty miserable. >> low mood, which starts in 40s. accompanying this led women to depression that was never diagnosed for what it was. >> but now we have a treatment . >> but now we have a treatment. now we have different types of treatment that are really quite safe, safer than the safe, much safer than the contraceptive in cgses. >> cases. >> and if you consider that

after the age of menopause , after the age of menopause, cardiovascular disease is the biggest killer of women. >> women develop their cardiovascular disease after the menopause, so they might sell through menopause. >> but quietly without symptoms. their heart is developing disease. >> women that start hrt close to their menopause and under the age of 6060 have a lower all cause mortality and cardiovascular disease than any other women who don't have hrt. >> and actually, i was just going to say that more than statins. well, yeah, but but that's true. but you said that. so 85% of the women have won at least one of the symptoms. but that's one i mean, you know, i'm, you know, sometimes i do think that these celebrities pitch it as though it's a nightmare . it's when the one nightmare. it's when the one symptom that you might have might be relatively mild. i've been through the menopause . been through the menopause. there were a few symptoms, but it wasn't, you know , show it wasn't, you know, show stopping and life destroying. in actual fact, for someone like

me, i have an autoimmune condition which is triggered things like oestrogen. so for me, the menopause was actually a calming down of all of those things. so i'm just, you know, putting to you that whilst there are, you know, there's a lot of women , half of friends have women, half of my friends have been not much . been through it and not much. and there are some who are really struggling it . really struggling with it. >> yes, but also there are the silent. there are the silent parts of menopause. so as soon as you go through menopause, even you, your bone density starts to really fall away. and broken bones, as women get older, kill them. >> a third of women that break a hip will die within a year. those are the stats women get dementia twice as often as men. hrt probably prevents that. >> now, if your thyroid started slowing down and 1 in 50 women thyroid will start slowing down, you wouldn't say no, i'm not going to treat it. you would take thyroxine , another hormone. take thyroxine, another hormone. >> well we don't have said >> well we don't have you said that hrt probably prevents dementia but we don't really

know that. we know that it may have an effect on it, but we don't know that it probably do have. >> we do have pretty good data now that hrt is protective against dementia. >> pretty good data now. >> there's pretty good data now. nana. >> it's like a full protection. >> it's like a full protection. >> it's like a full protection. >> i might just take it anyway, although think full although i think i'm on full protection. although i think i'm on full protectiorthere is an argument >> well, there is an argument for taking hrt as lifestyle. for taking hrt as a lifestyle. women who take hrt die less than women of all cause mortality than those who don't. >> but having said that, i'm going to say this nobody forces a woman to have hrt. >> this is about choice. so someone should be presenting women with the benefits, the risks . and there are small risks. and there are small risks. >> of course there are, as there are with all drugs. >> we give people statins hand over their over fist to prevent their cardiovascular disease. why wouldn't we give it hrt to women? because it prevents cardiovascular disease. well, things. >> okay, so there are other things though. so building bone density if you agile and fit density if you are agile and fit enough and strong enough exercise that for you. exercise will do that for you. so not to the same degree. well it depends what you do. no i do,

i do ashtanga very strong yoga and i'm sure that i've had my scan , my dexa scan and all those scan, my dexa scan and all those things, and i think that there are other things we don't always have to be medicalizing it. do we really ? we really? >> oh yeah, of course we don't have to be medicalized in it, but for women. >> so you have a benefit. now, now say this. now i'm going to say this. please don't offended because please don't be offended because of your bones start of your race, your bones start off than mine. off much denser than mine. >> black. i'm. well, there's >> i'm black. i'm. well, there's a benefit. most black people say there isn't . for what? we have there isn't. for what? we have to believe it. no, i know i'm teasing the reason you look much younger your years younger than your years is because collagen your because of the collagen in your skin . skin. >> yes. you mm- >> yes. you know. so, yes. >> you're winning all round. >> so you're winning all round. but for some us, because but for some of us, me, because i bmi, i have thyroid disease. >> my bone density is at massive risk. so i do exercise. i do weight bearing exercise. >> i also take hrt because for me, through menopause, my mood and anxiety, and i've never suffered from it in my entire life was appalling. >> so that's really important.

don't forget, there's things like libido, you know, a healthy relationship and being able to have sex is really important for women to maintain their mental health and their sex life. there are of benefits. again , are lots of benefits. but again, it doesn't mean we're medicalizing we're medicalizing it. what we're saying these are the things saying is these are the things that go wrong. here is a solution that you can have if you want. you don't have to. >> well, renee , it's >> well, listen, renee, it's really good to talk to you, i enjoyed it. really to enjoyed it. it's really good to talk you. you much. talk to you. thank you so much. that skin that is our gp had your skin nana. johnny . you nana. oh thank you johnny. you look a bit odd though. it was just thank you . just on your face. thank you. that gp renee that was gp doctor renee hoenderkamp there. we're talking about menopause. what do you think? gb views at gb news. com will be to good hear your views. or maybe you've been through it and nightmare. maybe and it was a nightmare. or maybe it coming though, and it was a nightmare. or maybe it monologuening though, and it was a nightmare. or maybe it monologue on; though, and it was a nightmare. or maybe it monologue on meghanjgh, my monologue on meghan markle never. my monologue on meghan markle never . so course never. so of course i'm obviously very nice. obviously being very nice. political where political spotlight where joining me to shine a light is former labour party speechwriter james . this

gb news. good afternoon. it's just coming up to 49 minutes after 3:00. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua. and on digital radio. i'm nana akua . it's time for this week's akua. it's time for this week's political spotlight. george galloway has told gb news that small parties are going to radically alter the course of the next election. he believes that his workers party can steal votes away from labour. here's what he had to say to neil oliver. >> the spread of candidates challenges new parties, independent candidates and so on is now proceeding like wildfire. if i tell you that i have now in my pocket , more than 300 my pocket, more than 300 prospective parliamentary candidates, all paying their own election expenses, by the way, because we can't pay them more than 300 workers party parliamentary candidates . parliamentary candidates. imagine that. >> imagine that. well, you can

watch the full interview tomorrow at 6 pm. with neil oliver. well, joining me to discuss that and to shine a light in the is the former labour party adviser and speechwriter who the speechwriter who authored the book pragmatism . book progressive pragmatism. james matthewson. james, thank you much joining me. you very much for joining me. right what do you think? is george galloway making some valid you valid points there? and do you think he could make headway with his party ? his workers party? >> think that the phrase >> i think that the phrase that's telling nana is in that's really telling nana is in my pocket. i have you would never hear any other politician except george galloway say that it's all about him. he thinks what he's got, what he's managed to do, what he's managed to achieve. that's not how party politics works normally. and that's why george galloway has never in never been able to stay in a political party for that long. so, you it's all about so, you know, it's all about him. all about what can him. it's all about what he can do, politics. do, how he can change politics. and do not believe for and i just do not believe for one second. i mean, we remember the independence party. the northern independence party. i don't know if you remember them. independence them. the northern independence party, who were who were registered in brighton, of all places, northern, places, you know, very northern, but they were they had something

like, 280 prospective candidates that all started and all of them received about eight votes each. so i don't think there's anything for the labour party to be concerned about when it comes to the george to it. remember the george galloway to to galloway is going to want to protect ensure that protect his seat, to ensure that he stays in at the next election. more than anything else , but but he has made else, but but he has made a valid point. and the bottom line is that he wants to attack the labour party and take from their votes. and that is exactly the core of voting he is. he's core of voting that he is. he's stealing. he's right there, though. he does do this though. and if he does do this and these things in his and these things are in his pocket, he does manage to pocket, if he does manage to pull out. you? pull that out. are you? i'm feeling change how feeling a sea change in how people are voting. you not people are voting. are you not sensing that , not not for george sensing that, not not for george galloway's politics, i'm afraid, unfortunately. but i do think there will be people who will be swayed to him. there are people who are politically homeless on the hard left of politics because, the labour because, you know, the labour party away from that party has shifted away from that position those position in recent times, those of believe that that's of us who believe that that's the right thing to do are pleased that. but pleased about that. but there are are including

are many who are not including the galloway, the likes of george galloway, you will be the you know. so there will be the likes people , you who likes of people, you know, who would their to would have given their vote to jeremy and his labour jeremy corbyn, and his labour party, will now likely give party, who will now likely give their galloway . their vote to george galloway. but i do believe that those people such a minority. people are in such a minority. there's the labour there's the reason the labour party in 2017 and 2019, party lost in 2017 and 2019, which is what i talked about in my in my book. pragmatic, progressive pragmatism. you couldn't remember the name of your own book. i know, i know exactly it's great, isn't it? but when it comes to that, being pragmatic trying to be have pragmatic and trying to be have progressive politics that actually we actually says, okay, we acknowledge not everyone agrees with how pragmatic with us. how do we be pragmatic about it ? george galloway has no about it? george galloway has no interest that, what's interest in doing that, what's going on with humza useless or yusuf? sorry, it just rolls off the tongue. so naturally, £250,000 that he sort of moved towards so that it would go for the un instead of, well, i don't know where it would have gone, but there's of talk about but there's a lot of talk about it. on the front cover it. it's on the front cover of the paper. >> so up here, i mean, >> yeah. so up here, i mean, i'm, i'm edinburgh, up i'm, i'm in edinburgh, i'm up here scotland, and here in scotland, the snp and they're well at all.

they're not doing well at all. and it stands to reason, you know, they've been very clever with their language over recent years scottish years in separating the scottish government and its activities from their political party. no other political party could have done that. you know, when we talk about the tories, we're talking government. talking about the government. it's the but it's one and the same. but they've to it they've managed to keep it separate for lot of people's separate for a lot of people's minds. are seeing minds. people now are seeing exactly is because, you exactly what it is because, you know, was was know, humza yousaf was was a health wasn't health minister who wasn't really in glory . and now health minister who wasn't reallhe's in glory . and now health minister who wasn't reallhe's at in glory . and now health minister who wasn't reallhe's at the] glory . and now health minister who wasn't reallhe's at the centre . and now health minister who wasn't reallhe's at the centre ofind now that he's at the centre of the party they got party and they haven't got nicola sturgeon's prestige, whether or she whether you like her or not, she is a successful politician is a very successful politician and somebody has, you know, is a very successful politician and sofrebody has, you know, is a very successful politician and sof profile has, you know, is a very successful politician and sof profile now.�*|as, you know, is a very successful politician and sof profile now. they ou know, a lot of profile now. they haven't got that to rely on. they're just tanking here and i think we're going to see, labour picking up seats probably tories picking up seats probably tories picking up seats probably tories picking up from them in picking up seats from them in some well. some places as well. >> . yeah. it's amazing how >> wow. yeah. it's amazing how it just literally fragmented. >> wow. yeah. it's amazing how it juthen erally fragmented. >> wow. yeah. it's amazing how it juthen there fragmented. >> wow. yeah. it's amazing how it juthen there fragn some . >> wow. yeah. it's amazing how it juthen there fragn some very but then there were some very silly the whole silly things, the whole gender thing that thing we all saw through that and that didn't look good. that was really beginning the was really the beginning of the end, view . and now, do you end, in my view. and now, do you think it time call an think it is time to call an election, seeing as so many of

the politicians, theresa may is the politicians, theresa may is the latest one to throw hat the latest one to throw her hat out ring , is it time just out of the ring, is it time just to call a general election and just with it? just get on with it? >> think there's been >> yeah, i think there's been such change now. know, such a change now. you know, you're an of you're seeing an old guard of politicians there politicians who've been there for saying , politicians who've been there for saying, i'm done, my for years saying, i'm done, my time is finished. that's great. i'm going move retire i'm going to move on and retire now do else. and now or do something else. and you're people, you know, you're seeing people, you know, who and waiting in the who are keen and waiting in the wings make a wings to come and make a difference. the off from difference. the drop off from below, know, below, for example, you know, the to the labour party wanting to stand now we're seeing a new wave of politicians are keen wave of politicians who are keen and have the energy, and i don't blame the ones who've been there for the past to 10 years, you for the past 5 to 10 years, you know, being absolutely know, for being absolutely exhausted after, you know, we've been politically , been through a lot politically, whether wherever you stand on your views, you know, from brexit, right till now, we've been through a lot politically as a country. so i think it is time for a change. and the sooner happens, better, sooner that happens, the better, because inevitable. sooner that happens, the better, because listen,/itable. sooner that happens, the better, because listen, jane e. sooner that happens, the better, because listen, jane james >> well, listen, jane james matthewson , thank you much matthewson, thank you so much for that's james forjoining us. that's james matthewson. political matthewson. he was my political spotlight. well, spotlight. thank you. well, coming joined by my

coming up, i'll be joined by my amazing panel, former labour party adviser matthew laza and of course, broadcaster and columnist lizzie cundy . next, columnist lizzie cundy. next, though, my monologue on meghan markle . you've heard a lot about markle. you've heard a lot about her. she's been talking again. she's re—emerged and hear what i have to say. but first let's get an update with your weather with greg dewhurst . greg dewhurst. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers is sponsors of weather on gb news. >> hello there! welcome to your latest gb news weather. it stays cloudy through the rest of the weekend . further rain at times. weekend. further rain at times. still quite breezy too. and looking at the pressure pattern, low pressure sits to the south. introducing strong east introducing this strong east southeasterly breeze across the country. really noticeable . country. really noticeable. taking the edge off the temperatures. outbreaks of rain pushing northward two and it is cloudy end to saturday outbreaks of rain could be heavy at times across parts of wales this evening and then overnight we

see a lot of low cloud outbreaks of rain drizzle , of rain and drizzle, particularly across eastern parts, northwards, parts, pushing northwards, but generally everyone, a cloudy generally for everyone, a cloudy night and that will keep temperatures above freezing temperatures well above freezing for most. 1 or 2 may get to low single figures in any clearer spells for the vast majority are cloudy , damp, grey start to cloudy, damp, grey start to sunday, outbreaks rain sunday, outbreaks of rain pushing north and westward. some of this heavy at times could be some brighter breaks, developing across the south—west of the uk into the afternoon, but this could trigger 1 or 2 heavy showers. but for most of us it stays cloudy , the breeze still stays cloudy, the breeze still coming in from east and coming in from the east and making feel chilly. making it feel quite chilly. temperatures up temperatures generally up to around 10 or 11 celsius, but feeling more like single figures into the new working week. it generally stays quite cloudy still. outbreaks of light rain and drizzle pulling in from the nonh and drizzle pulling in from the north sea, a few brighter breaks at times in the west and over the next few days it generally stays further, there stays cloudy. further, there could at times, but could be some rain at times, but a largely cloudy dry picture. temperatures rising a little too that warm feeling inside from

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headunes. headlines. >> good afternoon. coming up to 4:01 i'm ray addison in the gb newsroom . our top stories this newsroom. our top stories this houn newsroom. our top stories this hour. huge crowds have been marching through central london and glasgow, demonstrating against the war in gaza . hey, against the war in gaza. hey, hey, hey, palestine , hey, free hey, hey, palestine, hey, free palestine. well, thousands took part in the palestine solidarity campaign protests demanding an immediate ceasefire in london. speeches were made outside of the us embassy. earlier on, the met warned that a robust plan is in place to tackle hate crime . in place to tackle hate crime. that's after the counter—terrorism tsar said that the capital has become a no go zone for jews . well, the capital has become a no go zone forjews . well, meanwhile, zone for jews. well, meanwhile, the head of the foreign affairs committee has accused israel of blocking aid, getting into gaza humanitarian supplies are being airdropped as the crisis in the region deepens. a ship carrying

aid is also set to leave cyprus sometime this weekend. that's after the uk, us and eu announced plans to create a maritime corridor with a temporary port built off the coast of gaza in the coming weeks. well, two tory mps have used a social media to post demand more defence spending in what's being called further signs of tension within the tory party. foreign office minister anne—marie trevelyan and security minister tom tugendhat published an article appearing to criticise the absence of funds in the budget for defence. they're calling for a spending increase to at least 2.5% of gdp, citing global risks posed by countries including russia and china . the mothers of two and china. the mothers of two teenagers killed in nottingham say they've lost faith in the justice system. valdo calocane was handed a hospital order for manslaughter by diminished responsibility after stabbing 19

year old students barnaby webber and grace o'malley kumar, as well as school caretaker ian coates in june of last year. the teenager's parents have now criticised the police and the crown prosecution service, telling the times that they felt foolish for thinking that they would see justice properly served . a london fertility served. a london fertility clinic has had its licence to operate suspended due to significant concerns . the significant concerns. the telegraph says the centre had been reported to police over fears that embryos were being destroyed. the homerton fertility centre in east london has admitted errors in its freezing processes, leading to some embryos either not surviving or being undetectable . surviving or being undetectable. the suspension means that the unit will not be able to accept any new bookings for treatment, but existing can still but existing patients can still access its services. a new honour , the elizabeth emblem, honour, the elizabeth emblem, has been created to recognise pubuc has been created to recognise public servants who've died in the line of duty. the fathers of

murdered pcs, fiona bone and nicola hughes, who were killed in greater manchester back in 2012, campaigned for three years to secure the award. bryn hughes and paul bowen have described the decision as overwhelming . the decision as overwhelming. >> i'm very pleased and for all the police that have lost their lives in service that they're now getting recognition by the state and for all the families involved. it will be a privilege to have them. it's been nearly three years campaigning for me and, you know, for its final to be announced . it's i think in be announced. it's i think in one respect it's humbling but overwhelming. so pleased for overwhelming. but so pleased for everybody and not just police officers we found officers as well. as we found out, for everybody in out, it's for everybody in pubuc out, it's for everybody in public will public service. and that will mean lot for those families, mean a lot for those families, i think. >> finally, meghan markle >> and finally, meghan markle says she suffered hateful and cruel online abuse while she was pregnant. speaking at an event in texas, she criticised the toxicity and lack of humanity on

the internet and across parts of the internet and across parts of the media. >> the bulk of the bullying and abuse that i was experiencing thing in social media and online was when i was pregnant with archie and with lili and with a newborn with each of them. and you just think about that and you, it's really wrap your head around why people would be so hateful. it's not catty, it's cruel. >> for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code. it's on your screen right now , or go to gb news right now, or go to gb news .com/ alerts back to . nana. .com/ alerts back to. nana. >> good afternoon. thank you ray. it is fast approaching six minutes after 4:00. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua . digital radio. i'm nana akua. oh, god. meghan markle is apparently looking to return to

the uk and wants to improve her image. if rumours are to be believed, she is in search of yet another pr company. she tagged her comeback onto international women's day. have a listen i i've said this for so many years and i hope that it starts to land, but i think we can all agree that represents ocean matters in terms of if you're a young girl and you see yourself in a position of power or strength or leadership, you can believe that that is possible. >> all . she goes on to talk >> all. she goes on to talk about having someone who looks like you. i would hate to have someone looking like me a twin. i'd be so jealous. especially if they was a thin one. i think she's tugging on the race card in that speech as well . then in that speech as well. then someone interrupts her while she's and she tells she's on a roll, and she tells the washing up liquid story again. more victimhood and again. then more victimhood and the bulk of the bullying and abuse that i was experiencing in

social media and online was when i was pregnant with archie and with lily, and with a newborn, with lily, and with a newborn, with each of them , and you just with each of them, and you just think about that, and you , it's think about that, and you, it's really wrap your head around why people would be so hateful. it's not catty . not catty. >> she just doesn't care. actions speak louder than words. now, whilst i don't wish online abuse on anyone, and sadly, the more well known you become, the more well known you become, the more likely you are receive more likely you are to receive it. there a simple solution it. there is a simple solution don't read it. it's not that difficult and when you're as wealthy and as connected as she is, this should be relatively easy. you can even pay people to do stuff and said actions speak louder than words. but let's be honest , louder than words. but let's be honest, meghan has used the press whenever it suits her. the reason people are incensed by the pair of them, which it seems they clearly can't work out. why is because of their actions. climb it, preaching while taking private jets and smugly telling us where offsetting our carbon,

which we all know is a scam, flying from one place to another on the most polluting vehicle known to man aircraft. it was heartless to go on oprah and diss the royal family whilst prince philip lay dying. the show was pre—recorded . in any show was pre—recorded. in any case, they could have postponed it. they didn't. it was heartless to leave the door open to an accusation of racism and then correct the record years later, thereby their own admission gaslighting the world and making the queen's last years a nightmare. it's heartless not seeing a father who has, by all counts, supported and encouraged it, and who has fallen seriously ill. thomas markle hasn't even met either of his grandchildren, and the king has only met as far as we know. just one forgiveness. so shows strength of character . so shows strength of character. holding a grudge and throwing a wrecking ball is easy. the documentary is the misery ridden whinge fest. spare and get the smaller half of the room in a goddamn castle . you're in a

goddamn castle. you're in a castle. constant bleating on about their own well—being and mental health, blind to the damage they're doing to others. they're advocates for it. they should know better, i'm afraid. no amount of pr can airbrush this behaviour. so i get that you , meghan, have feelings, but you, meghan, have feelings, but so do the rest of us. and whilst i absolutely deplore bad behaviour on social media, you cannot escape the fact that your behaviour leaves a lot to be desired . and. so before we get desired. and. so before we get stuck into the debate, here's what else is coming up today for the great british debate this houn the great british debate this hour. i'm asking should pro—palestine marchers be allowed to continue? it sounds london is becoming a no go zone for many jewish people. that is according to the home office's independent adviser on extremism, simcox, who extremism, robert simcox, who says that they've gone unchallenged for way too long. then, at 450, it's royal roundup time. victoria hervey will time. lady victoria hervey will be here with the latest from behind palace walls the

behind the palace walls on the menu the duchess sussex menu. the duchess of sussex meghan says that she suffered hateful cruel abuse whilst hateful and cruel abuse whilst she was pregnant. she's also hired uk based pr expert to hired a uk based pr expert to help launch her next venture . help launch her next venture. but is this just trying to salvage her relationship with britain ? and then at five, it's britain? and then at five, it's this week's difficult conversation. doctor pam spurr will be in the studio will be live in the studio that's in the next that's coming up in the next houn that's coming up in the next hour. me what you think of hour. tell me what you think of everything discussing. everything we're discussing. email gbviews@gbnews.com or tweet . gb news. all right. tweet me at. gb news. all right. let's get started. let's welcome again to my panel, former labour party adviser matthew la la. i couldn't resist i'll forgive you. and also broadcast from columnist lizzie cundy. right well i want to start with you, lizzie cundy having met the duchess of sussex and having chaperoned her around to meet you well, then dropping you both well, and then dropping you, duchess of diddums. you, the duchess of diddums. >> supposed to feel >> we're all supposed to feel sorry for her, aren't we? >> know, she's had more >> you know, she's had more comebacks , actually, frank comebacks, actually, than frank sinatra. the one thing with

sinatra. but the one thing with meghan, she always wants to do it. way and her way is it. her way and her way is playing the victim. poor me, poor me. i mean, look, we're all against online trolling and bullying. i've had enough of it. i don't read it. you know, read it. i know, you know. and if they're talking about me, that's great. that's what i like. i mean, she should be on stage apologising for her own bullying mean, she should be on stage apolhave1g for her own bullying mean, she should be on stage apolhave her)r her own bullying mean, she should be on stage apolhave her terriblevn bullying mean, she should be on stage apolhave her terrible hate|llying and have her terrible hate campaign against her own sister in law, kate. i mean, what she's done there , the lies she's done there, the lies she's spread, the hateful interviews which we all had to listen through. i mean, it's absolutely disgraceful. and i think she should be on there apologising . should be on there apologising. >> truth though, sir, what she said is her truth. so according to her, it's improved. >> there wasn't any alleged racist in that family. and i think something unforgivable . think something unforgivable. she let the late queen die thinking there was and i'm sorry, meghan, take a leaf out of your own book. look how you've treated your own flesh and blood. look how she's

treated father , who's treated her own father, who's had strokes and heart attacks, hasn't been invited to hasn't even been invited to buckingham palace for a scone and jam. you know, and cream and jam. you know, he's heartbroken. hasn't even met grandkids. take a look met the grandkids. take a look at the way your own behaviour. i'm sorry. she's a hypocrite and she needs to apologise. >> matthew laza. >> matthew laza. >> i try hard to find nice >> so i try hard to find nice things to say. >> and you know , i do think it's >> and you know, i do think it's important that she uses her platform to the cause of platform to promote the cause of international women's day and women girls. women and girls. >> she said that about >> but when she said that about women and women who've women in power and women who've had achievements, had real serious achievements, i wish the wish you were celebrating the achievements strong achievements of so many strong women many women who've done so many wonderful rather than wonderful things rather than just a prince. just marry a prince. >> there is some irony >> i mean, there is some irony there that how she's there, that that is how she's got platform , and she but got her platform, and she but arguably she was a bit of a star. she was in suits. >> no. exactly. so what? >> no. exactly. so what? >> what disappoints me , nana is >> what disappoints me, nana is that because she had a career beforehand, know, we thought beforehand, you know, we thought this was very modern in this modern era. >> she going back to >> why isn't she going back to acting? because she had had acting? because she had she had she platform rather than she had a platform rather than just equality and just appearing at equality and diversity was known in

>> sadly, she was well known in the states when she came over here. had look her here. i had to look after her because no who she was, because no one knew who she was, and to get her interviewed and i had to get her interviewed on the carpet, and my on the red carpet, and my producer like saying, look, producer was like saying, look, i don't know her. it was really tough i helped her. the tough and i helped her. and the thing she always thing is with meghan, she always plays she always plays the victim. she always says, poor me. >> she never she says she's got a skill. >> being poor harry hasn't got any skill. >> apart from now he's >> i mean, apart from now he's left army, but could. left the army, but she could. she she she might not get this, she might but she might not get the lead, but she could could bit part. >> she needs to change the record. helicopters. like a record. helicopters. like with a learner know, when learner driver. you know, when you the but somebody you go in the car, but somebody else you else is taking control and you think you're riding it, but is it international women's day? >> sitting at >> and there's harry sitting at the . i mean, i mean, i the front. i mean, i mean, i just think she wears the trousers , obviously, but i'm trousers, obviously, but i'm afraid we're all sick of her whingeing and moaning and there's no pr in the whole wide world that can help. >> this is what worries me, is that she's just going to deflect attention from the royal family, who, you know, whatever you think royal think of the concept of royal family a great job, family have done a great job, since the queen's death in

difficult obviously difficult times and obviously their you know, their king is still, you know, having cancer treatment, you know, never let alone, catherine, who's obviously not very well either. so, you know, we don't need her in this country. she should go to hollywood and, you know, find herself a small get back herself a small part, get back into acting. herself a small part, get back inthhat's. herself a small part, get back inthhat's what's happened >> what's what's happened in hollywood. my friends have hollywood. and my friends have told desperate in told me she's desperate to be in with a—lister . she's with the a—lister. she's desperate taylor swift at desperate for taylor swift at the to be the minute, desperate to be her friend . but taylor is running to friend. but taylor is running to the other of that football the other side of that football pitch her boyfriend plays pitch that her boyfriend plays on. be her. no on. she can't be near her. no one wants to know them anymore. their is sunk. their popularity is sunk. >> sunk like these women sitting around the table talking with her seemed very, you know, people are a moored by her and a lot of people, you know, because she is so famous. >> i think they are particularly in america. >> i think the title still has that know, it's like >> i think the title still has that you're know, it's like >> i think the title still has that you're in know, it's like >> i think the title still has that you're in america s like >> i think the title still has that you're in america and e >> i think the title still has that you're in america and you when you're in america and you speak, know, even speak, you don't, you know, even if don't have a particular if you don't have a particular lovely don't. lovely accent, i don't. >> somebody goes, >> but, you know, somebody goes, oh got a beautiful act. >> you know, there that kind >> you know, there is that kind of i've got a lovely of slightly i've got a lovely i think haven't about

think you haven't talked about me, think a me, but i think you've got a very, very voice. very, very sexy voice. >> they're hoping >> i think they're hoping that in monologue in your, in your monologue you're ever today. in your, in your monologue you�* she ever today. in your, in your monologue you�* she a ever today. in your, in your monologue you�*she a very ever today. in your, in your monologue you�*she a very good today. in your, in your monologue you�*she a very good on ay. no, she was a very good on the front of the mail. front of the daily mail. >> i say. >> may i say. >> may i say. >> absolutely very very good. >> absolutely very very good. >> talking my good >> i was talking about my good self, but the kind of self, you know, but the kind of thing people sort thing where people just sort of like being british, they like you for being british, they think cool. think it's kind of cool. you know, of know, they it brings up loads of stereotypes. i think if she comes going have comes here, she's going to have a she comes back here permanently. she's going to have a they a rude awakening because they literally writing spare. a rude awakening because they literevery writing spare. a rude awakening because they literevery 'madei spare. a rude awakening because they literevery 'made himself he's very much made himself a spare. people of the >> but people are sick of the same records. they need to same old records. they need to reinvent themselves, you know, have focus. do the have a great focus. do the charity not more this, charity work not more of this, not poor as not more of this. poor me. as soon a voice, eyes soon as i hear a voice, my eyes go snake in jungle go like the snake in jungle book. it's like book. i just thought it's like with switch off. >> yeah, i think, oh , we were going. >> i'd say, well, today. >> i'd say, well, today. >> the thing is, i just think that would just that if she would just appreciate privilege let appreciate her privilege and let people hear how thankful she is and a few moments of and like within a few moments of holding that microphone and talking, she's already talking about how everyone's really horrible to me it's like, horrible to me and it's like, stop . stop. >> yeah, well, i'll tell you what you contrast with. >> obviously a member of the >> obviously not a member of the royal terms

royal family, but in terms of american royalty, is american royalty, which is presidential families take chelsea clinton, the clintons daughter, know, shares daughter, who, you know, shares her a lot her perspective, who does a lot of women and girls but of stuff at women and girls but has actually gone and got a proper job has actually gone and got a properjob and and, you properjob and gone and, you know, the know, done real work in the area rather just jaw. rather than just jaw, jaw, jaw. let's war, war on let's have some war, war, war on inequality your inequality by checking your privilege loved privilege to start with, i loved your inner castle. >> to say to meghan, >> i just want to say to meghan, look, just forget about look, to just forget about coming back. i save the coming back. i mean, save the money big pr spins. money on the big pr spins. there's no point if you're going to and still do this to come back and still do this moaning whingeing . no one's moaning and whingeing. no one's going, to going, you're not going to help. if no, not helping if she asks, no, i'm not helping this time. >> on m- m“ >> come on gb news, i'm afraid. well no, i'd actually talk to the hand. >> you would probably would say ho. 110. >> no. >> no, because you know what you're going to hear? >> because it'll be more windy. and i just i just couldn't and i just think i just couldn't listen it. and everyone listen to it. and everyone watching listen to it. and everyone wati'llig who would >> i'll tell her who i would have uncle gary. i would have on is uncle gary. i would like on there. like gary on there. >> i'll try and get hold >> yeah, i'll try and get hold of goldsmith. know, of gary goldsmith. you know, everybody, lizzie. you know she knows him. she knows him. lizzie. her. i'll make >> she'll text her. i'll make sure texts him in break. sure she texts him in the break. >> need >> we'll need you. >> we'll need you. >> right. okay. just >> right. okay. if you're just joining . welcome. this gb joining. welcome. this is gb news and on news on tv, online and on digital i'm nana. akua

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if you're just tuned in. welcome on board. this is nana. nice. where have you been? so i couldn't resist . we're live on couldn't resist. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua. it'sjust gone tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua. it's just gone 20 minutes after 4:00. and it's time for the great british debate this hour. but before we do i've some messages do that, i've had some messages with monologue, with regard to the monologue, janet american. janet says she went on american. this meghan markle , by this is about meghan markle, by the went on american tv the way. she went on american tv and kate princess of and slated kate princess of wales and the rest of the royal family, but doesn't like it when

she's criticised on social media. she media. but it's true. but she could simply read could just simply just not read it, mean, paula says it, isn't it? i mean, paula says women always been other women have always been other women's . they're women's worst enemy. they're jealous other or jealous of each other or venomous looks at venomous if their guy looks at another woman. yeah, but, paula, what's that got to do with this? oh. do think you mean kate? oh. do you think you mean kate? and says and and maybe julie says harry and meghan deserted the royal family for based on for fame and fortune. based on their titles, which should have been stripped. on been stripped. sheila says on this occasion , meghan is this occasion, meghan is correct. hatred and vitriol correct. the hatred and vitriol against is disgusting. against her was is disgusting. yes, we agree with her. nobody likes online, but that's likes vitriol online, but that's not really right for them to do what they did . that was quite what they did. that was quite hateful as well. the hateful as well. that's the point making. but point that we're making. but yes, said, agree it's not yes, as i said, i agree it's not very horrible to very nice being horrible to people but the bottom people online, but the bottom line don't have read line is you don't have to read it. the great it. it's time for the great british debate. them british debate. so keep them coming. asking you, coming. and i'm asking you, should pro—palestine marches be allowed to continue? and is allowed to continue? and this is as protests fill as pro—palestine protests fill the streets the capital once the streets of the capital once again. parts of again. and other parts of britain as well. and now britain's counter extremism tsar robin simcox says that these very protests are turning london

into a no go zone forjews, and he goes on to slam the government for letting extremists unchallenged extremists go unchallenged for so long. so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking, should pro—palestine marches be allowed continue? marches be allowed to continue? well, first let's head to the protest itself, where our political correspondent, katherine forster has been watching, catherine. so it looks quiet now. i'm presuming that everyone is dispersed, but what was the protest been ? was how has the protest been? >> yes. so, hello , nana. we >> yes. so, hello, nana. we followed the protest from its beginnings up at hyde park , down beginnings up at hyde park, down past victoria station, across the river thames to the american embassy behind me. the met police insist that it has to be all done and dusted by 5:00. so it looks, as you can see behind me, most people have gone down, most of them working their way back. now it does look pretty much like it's wrapped up, i have say, been pretty have to say, it's been pretty peaceful. what i've seen, it's always the way the majority of people are not here for trouble, but of course, with any big march, there is always an

element that is, out for trouble. and i think the met police that's finishing here, in the hope that people will disperse quietly, that they won't gather like they did in trafalgar recently. and trafalgar square, recently. and that there will be no bother. it's very peaceful . what i what it's very peaceful. what i what i've seen, we're getting a bit of , shouting here, so i i've seen, we're getting a bit of, shouting here, so i think perhaps time to go back to you. >> i think it's a and apologies to anyone who's seeing the things behind catherine and akua. this is gb news if you're just tuned in. welcome crowds also demonstrated in glasgow. joining me now is gb news scotland reporter tony maguire, tony, spoke earlier , all tony, we spoke earlier, all quiet and it's all dispersed. what else has been happening ? what else has been happening? >> good afternoon. yes, well, you know, i would say as far as glasgow typically is, is the model of peaceful protesting . model of peaceful protesting. yes. we have lots of face

coverings with those masks with the palestine flag. we spoke a bit earlier. yes. we have certain of those chants of to the river, to the sea, which we now know is seen as heavily anti—semitic by many, but never really before. and this i've covered quite a lot of the protests here in scotland, never before have i really encountered any pro—hamas , members of the any pro—hamas, members of the protest until today . that is, of protest until today. that is, of course, hamas, who used that ? course, hamas, who used that? from the river to the sea is their unofficial anthem , as it their unofficial anthem, as it were. hamas, who initiated the attacks on israel on october 7th, resulting in the highest loss of jewish life since the holocaust, well, i spoke to a doctor , ali al—husseini, who was doctor, ali al—husseini, who was at the protest today about his views and challenged them on quite a couple of them. you have one that says something about hamas as well, don't you ? hamas as well, don't you? >> hamas are freedom fighters ,

>> hamas are freedom fighters, not as the media tell you, that they are terrorists. >> they a lot of people may disagree with you on that . disagree with you on that. >> if they can, we can talk with them. >> i'm sure they will change their mind. >> but was it not hamas that started this escalation on october 7th? >> i'll tell you in in a boxing platform, somebody hit once again and so on 100 times somebody and this poor guy who is hamas, once they hit back , is hamas, once they hit back, they hit back only one round. they hit back and they became terrorists . you understand what? terrorists. you understand what? >> so there we go. we obviously know that hamas is a proscribed terrorist organisation and is very much seen as embedding themselves in the people of gaza

as the gaza strip and as israel, sorry, forces intend to weed them out. but it kind of just goes to show that, you know , goes to show that, you know, defacing, defacing paintings and busts of the queen victoria and violence and destruction of property isn't always the problem. sometimes the people that hold these ideals believe them. so wholehearted that their position and their view is extremely hard to shift. >> yeah, well, listen, thank you so much for your thoughts and good to talk to a gentleman then and hear his views. tony mcguire, scotland mcguire, he's our scotland reporter . mcguire, he's our scotland reporter. right. so mcguire, he's our scotland reporter . right. so you've heard reporter. right. so you've heard the other side of what some people believe hamas is, even though we all know that it is a proscribed terrorist organisation. so i'm asking, what you then having what do you think then having heard all that, should the pro—palestine marchers be allowed joining allowed to continue or joining me chairman the me is the chairman of the national jewish assembly, gary mond, broadcaster mond, author and broadcaster rebecca unionist rob rebecca reid, trade unionist rob williams of williams and former head of pubuc williams and former head of public order of the city of london kevin hurley ,

london police kevin hurley, right. well, i'm going to start with gary mond. you heard with you, gary mond. you heard that. with you, gary mond. you heard that . what thoughts? that. what are your thoughts? should on? should these marches carry on? >> shouldn't carry on. >> no, they shouldn't carry on. >> no, they shouldn't carry on. >> they should be stopped. everyone want call everyone seems to want to call them pro—palestine marches. >> kind . >> they're nothing of the kind. >> they're nothing of the kind. >> they're nothing of the kind. >> they are anti—semitic, anti—jewish marches. if they were pro—palestine marches, then these people would be out marching . several years ago, marching. several years ago, when bashar assad, the syrian leader, tens of leader, massacred tens of thousands of palestinians in cold blood in the civil war in syria. >> these marches are hate marches. >> we just have to look at these from the river to the sea. palestine will be free, is essentially a call for the eradication of the state of israel, which is totally unacceptable to the vast majority of jewish people in this country. >> i mean, yeah , the projection >> i mean, yeah, the projection onto big ben, all those things that were happening are terrible. and, you know, i don't understand why the police didn't do about it, it do anything about it, but it does as something does feel as though something is getting does feel as though something is get and worse, even worse, >> and even worse, even worse, you've calling keir you've had them calling keir starmer, rishi sunak. they're

saying that they're supporting genocide, which is completely untrue. and really and we've also had a case where someone today, i gather, simply put out a poster saying hamas are terrorists, which they are, and which the government accepts they are, and he's been arrested. >> it's terrible . >> it's terrible. >> it's terrible. >> it's terrible. >> it's absurd. well, the police will have to explain that. let's speak hurley. he is speak to kevin hurley. he is the former public of former head of public order of the of london. kevin, do the city of london. kevin, do you think that these should these should carry on? these marches should carry on? >> well, i mean, the real problem it is in the uk, problem with it is in the uk, with our tradition and our right to peaceful protest. >> and there are a lot of people are very upset about what they're seeing going on in, the gaza strip area where thousands and thousands of women and children are being killed and maimed. >> and it's a horrific sight. >> and it's a horrific sight. >> however, on the other side, of course, is we've got the fact that hamas carried out an atrocious act, on october the 7th, killing over a thousand

jewish people dreadfully, some of the dreadful attacks on women and children were also awful. >> so it's a very emotive issue to with problem with it to deal with the problem with it is, is hamas are to most people or perhaps not most people are wrong to say that they are in fact a terrorist organisation who took over power in, gaza to by use of force after the first election and they effectively stamped on anyone else who attempts to oppose them. that's kind of the emotion behind it. but from a police point of view, the have got to allow the police have got to allow people to right to a peaceful protest. now if they are if people are saying stuff like, you know, to drive them into the sea, i've forgotten the phrase again, whatever it is. >> yeah , jordan to the sea. >> yeah, jordan to the sea. >> yeah, jordan to the sea. >> such phrases, which clearly are genocidal in themselves, anti—semitic, that is deeply offensive as well. and that should not be allowed . it's should not be allowed. it's arguably even at the most minimal level of offence is a

breach of the peace as well as allegations, statements , attacks allegations, statements, attacks on jewish people which equally should be dealt with. >> but it comes down to williams because we haven't got much time. we're running out of time. well, hold on, let me in well, hold on, let me bring in rob williams, williams. rob williams, rob, rob williams. >> yeah, i'm from the >> yeah, rob, i'm from the socialist party and what an absolute distortion this report is. >> i've just come from this demonstration. i've been on most of these demonstrations. they are massive demonstrations of ordinary people. they are, you know, people are absolutely furious at what they see as a massacre of the palestinians thatis massacre of the palestinians that is going on. >> i ask you, rob, are you jewish? >> no, i'm not jewish. no. right. so by the way, my the position that we want in the socialist party is a socialist solution to the middle east that protects palestinians and israelis. we were on the protests by israelis against the netanyahu government, that

government that tried to change the legal system to protect their position . we supported their position. we supported those demonstrations, and we are supporting these demonstrations. they are peaceful demonstrations. they are against a massacre of ordinary palestinians. >> would you say, rob, what would you say to gary mond , who would you say to gary mond, who is from the national jewish assembly ? he will not go into assembly? he will not go into central london because of all the chanting, and lots of jewish places are being, having to be protected, their own private security and so on and so forth. what would you say to them if you're saying these are so peaceful? people go out? >> well, well, actually , there >> well, well, actually, there were jewish people, some jewish people on the demonstration today. >> and in a demonstration we are not in favour of no go areas. of course we're not. like i say, we've supported protests by, israeli people against netanyahu , whose government, when he tried to change the, but that's all very well. >> but the problem is that a lot of people feel these marches

have been hijacked. >> talking about you , a >> we are talking about you, a mass movement in britain. the people are absolutely appalled. and let's make it absolutely clear, this tory government, whose days are numbered, that are hated, are trying . they're are hated, are trying. they're already trying to attack the right to strike. they're now trying to attack the right to protest. i'm asking people what even don't fall for this distortion. it's an absolute distortion. it's an absolute distortion. what you what you're being fed. >> that might be your your experience of it, but others haven't experienced the same thing . gary, i'm to give thing. gary, i'm going to give you up quickly you 10s to finish up quickly because to go to the because i've got to go to the news. your response news. so your response quickly to of so to that, the perception of so many jewish people is that these marches marches. marches are hate marches. >> that there are many >> i'm sure that there are many people who peaceful those people who are peaceful on those marches, you just have to marches, but you just have to look some of the slogans look at some of the slogans used. march. there used. on a previous march. there was put into a was a magen david put into a rubbish which essentially rubbish bin, which essentially is blatantly anti—semitic. and of course, calls regarding of course, these calls regarding it as genocide, which it patently isn't . it's essentially patently isn't. it's essentially a response to hamas terrorists murdering 1600 people on the 7th

of october. >> i've got to leave it there, sadly, because i could talk to you guys for ages, but we are running out time. you running out of time. thank you very the very much. gary mond, he's the head national jewish head of the national jewish assembly, also a trade unionist. rob also former rob williams and also former head of public order the head of public order and the city london kevin city of london police, kevin hurley . this is gb news on tv, hurley. this is gb news on tv, onune hurley. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. we'll continue with the great british hour. british debate this hour. and i'm the i'm asking, should the pro—palestine marchers be allowed to continue? stay tuned. loads more on the way. but first, let's get your latest news headlines. >> thanks, nana 433. our top stories . huge crowds have stories. huge crowds have marched through central london and glasgow demonstrating against the war in gaza . pray, against the war in gaza. pray, pray, pray palestine. >> pray. pray palestine. thousands took part in the palestine solidarity campaign protests demanding an immediate ceasefire in london. >> speeches were made outside of

the us embassy. earlier, the met police warned that a robust plan is in place to tackle hate crime after the counter—terrorism tsar said the capital has become a no go zone for jews . well, go zone for jews. well, meanwhile, the head of the foreign affairs committee has accused israel of blocking aid getting into gaza . humanitarian getting into gaza. humanitarian suppues getting into gaza. humanitarian supplies are being airdropped as the crisis in the region deepens. a ship carrying aid is also said to be ready to deploy at a moment's notice. it's hoping to leave cyprus this weekend. that's after the uk , us weekend. that's after the uk, us and eu announced plans to create and eu announced plans to create a maritime corridor with a temporary port to be built off the coast of gaza in the coming weeks . two mps have used a weeks. two mps have used a social media to post demand more defence spending in further signs of tension within the tory party. foreign office minister anne—marie trevelyan and security minister tom tugendhat published an article appearing to criticise the absence of funds in the spring budget.

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four. this is gb news. i'm nana akua. we are live on tv, online and on digital radio. it's time to continue with the great british debate this hour. and i'm asking, should pro—palestine marches be allowed to continue? and all this, after all the and all of this, after all the pro—palestine protests filling the streets of london across the streets of london and across the streets of london and across the country and now britain's counter extremists are, robin simcox that these are these simcox says that these are these protests are turning london and other areas like that into no go zones for jewish people other areas like that into no go zones forjewish people . he goes zones forjewish people. he goes on to slam the government for letting extremists go unchallenged for such a long time. so the great british debate this hour, i'm asking, should pro—palestine marches be allowed to continue ? let's see allowed to continue? let's see what my panel make of that. joining former party joining me, former labour party adviser matthew laza also broadcast from columnist lizzie cundy. broadcast from columnist lizzie cundy . matthew laza, i'm going cundy. matthew laza, i'm going to start with you. >> i think that i believe >> so i think that i believe fundamentally in the right to protest. don't believe in the protest. i don't believe in the right to make people feel uncomfortable, particularly uncomfortable, and particularly to , not only members of to cause, not only members of the jewish community, but sort of massive disruption to our

cities every week. so i we cities every week. so i think we need have compromise . i need to have a compromise. i think we need to protect think that we need to protect the protest, the right to protest, but i don't people the don't think people have the right to protest on a particular street time on right to protest on a particular stparticular time on right to protest on a particular stparticular day time on right to protest on a particular stparticular day of time on right to protest on a particular stparticular day of the time on right to protest on a particular stparticular day of the week, n a particular day of the week, every so i think, know every week. so i think, you know , in the past we've seen routes change.in , in the past we've seen routes change. in fact, we saw that on remembrance day when the route was changed. we've seen protests where happen in park where it has to happen in a park and then at least kind of and then at least it's kind of it's enclosed. so yes, i it's kind of enclosed. so yes, i believe in the right to protest. i believe ban, but i don't believe in a ban, but i do that some restrictions do think that some restrictions need to be put because can't need to be put because we can't have feeling have people feeling uncomfortable have people feeling uncjewishible have people feeling uncjewish community the jewish community or just generally because they're getting pretty, they're getting people irate. people are getting very irate. they're absolutely convinced of their on these their own righteousness on these marches. they don't want to listen, we've seen with listen, as we've seen with various people various footage, when people challenge want challenge them, they don't want to people. so to listen to other people. so yes, right protest, yes, the right to protest, but within limits. >> they have to >> lizzie cundy they have to stop. to stop. look, stop. they have to stop. look, i believe of speech, believe in freedom of speech, but respect disability. but with respect disability. now, i passed the march. they were still chanting from the river to the sea. they were chanting hateful things. i'm telling you, this cannot go on

anymore. i want my city back . i anymore. i want my city back. i am scared and i'm not jewish. my friends that are jewish are leaving every weekend. i've got certain friends that are jewish that are leaving the country. they they safe they say they feel more safe actually in israel than they do in this city. and it's got to stop. and not only that, it's costing us, the taxpayer , over costing us, the taxpayer, over 32 million, and it's stopping our police from doing what they need to do policing. why don't the protesters pay for this ? i the protesters pay for this? i mean, then they may think twice about it and it's affecting local businesses. absolutely. tourism it has a knock on effect so much. my friend who's got a restaurant has to close it every weekend. they're losing business and money. how is this fair and how is it fair to the jewish community? >> well, she makes a good point, matthew laza. it's not just about people freedom of speech. matthew laza. it's not just acan: people freedom of speech. matthew laza. it's not just acan say)ple freedom of speech. matthew laza. it's not just acan say whatreedom of speech. matthew laza. it's not just acan say what i�*edom of speech. matthew laza. it's not just acan say what i liken of speech. matthew laza. it's not just acan say what i like and speech. matthew laza. it's not just acan say what i like and no, ech. i can say what i like and no, what the freedom of people what about the freedom of people to businesses? to run their businesses? >> is why >> absolutely. which is why i don't they should >> absolutely. which is why i don't marches they should >> absolutely. which is why i don't marches shouldshould >> absolutely. which is why i don't marches should happen be. the marches should happen right in the centre the right in the centre of the centre london or

centre of london every week, or the as we the centre of glasgow, as we saw earlier report. i earlier in the report. so i believe marches should believe that the marches should believe that the marches should be contained. so, for example, i think were kind of, think when they were kind of, you sort of you know, in a park and sort of you know, in a park and sort of you listen to speeches, you can have listen to speeches, be a park, your point be in a park, make your point and but it's contained and then go, but it's contained and then go, but it's contained and get in way and it doesn't get in the way of people's businesses. also people's businesses. and also people's businesses. and also people area people have a much clearer area if don't to be if they don't want to be involved in it. so that's my compromise. i also think involved in it. so that's my comprseene. i also think involved in it. so that's my comprseen the i also think involved in it. so that's my comprseen the protests think involved in it. so that's my comprseen the protests thisk we've seen the protests this week you know, going week in, you know, people going into tesco's and shouting at israeli to israeli avocados. that's got to stop. the stop. and people who slashed the painting, will painting, quite rightly will face i hope. face charges, i hope. >> listen, says >> well, listen, this says nothing and your nothing without you and your views. our great views. let's welcome our great british opportunity british voice, their opportunity to and us to be on the show and tell us what think the topics what they think about the topics we're if we we're discussing. i wonder if we have yay! go see have a map. yay! let's go to see lee harris in bristol. hey, lee harris. okay, lee harris, what do you think? is it time for us to. should they be allowed to continue? >> look, i just want to be clear. >> i fully support the right to protest, but this has gone way too far. i agree with both matthew, who put it brilliantly , matthew, who put it brilliantly, and lizzie on on this subject completely. >> you know, we have had hate

marches every single weekend in london and despite sunaks pathetic speech asking the police to police the protests is getting worse. counter extremism what's his name? robin simcox is absolutely correct. >> london has become a no go zone for jews , which is utterly zone for jews, which is utterly horrific on its own. but it's also become a no go zone for law abiding citizens. >> just going about their daily business and having their lives disrupted every weekend by these vile marches. and in my view, as i said to you before nana, this is all down to the met's disgraceful two tier policing and are terrifying weak politicians, you know. >> and today has been genuinely one of the worst. it's i've seen open support for hamas and islamist extremists chanting support for houthi terrorists, as we've seen before. you know, the police stood by and did absolutely nothing . absolutely nothing. >> they didn't listen to sunak when he asked them to start policing protests . policing protests. >> in fact, mark rowley said, i

quote , we have to police the law quote, we have to police the law as it is, not as others would wish it to be. but he is not enforcing the law as it is supporting a proscribed terrorist organisation is illegal in this country and we see weekly videos and evidence of the met doing literally nothing. >> when it happens right in front of them, they're empowering the mob and it's getting worse. and worst of all, nana i watch and i'm sure nana today i watch and i'm sure you may have seen this yourself. >> know you've been quite busy >> i know you've been quite busy presenting but presenting a show today, but please . please. >> i saw multiple police officers forcefully arrest a lone man who was holding a sign that said hamas is terrorists. >> i could not believe my eyes. >> i could not believe my eyes. >> possibly the most disgusting video that i've seen since the start of these protests. that has to be a watershed moment, apparently supporting a proscribed terrorist organisation is okay, but if you protest against hamas, you'll get arrested. >> i was i am still absolutely

furious after watching what the police appear to be doing on this one. >> i don't know why are they running? unbelievable. scared to me. think scared. yeah me. i think they're scared. yeah but they're supposed be the but they're supposed to be the police to rely police and we need to rely on them. listen, lee says them. listen, lee harris says hinckley so put as hinckley and so well put as even hinckley and so well put as ever. good talk to you ever. really good to talk to you . great british . that is our great british voice. great, isn't voice. he's great, isn't he? right. if you joined right. well, if you just joined us. welcome. you us. welcome. where have you been? on tv, been? well, we're live on tv, onune been? well, we're live on tv, online digital radio. i'm online and on digital radio. i'm nana the way in the next nana akua on the way in the next houn nana akua on the way in the next hour, my great british debate. i'm time for i'm asking, is it time for a general election? we're going to have that next. so my have fun with that next. so my royal roundup with socialite victoria

this -- this is gp em this is gp news. we are the people's channel. don't forget as well. you can stream the show live on youtube. i'm nana akua and now there's always something going on in the royal household. and this week's been no different. saturday, different. every saturday, i love a rundown. and love to give you a rundown. and who to so lady who better to do so than lady victoria because

victoria hervey? because yesterday sussex, yesterday the duchess of sussex, meghan an meghan markle, joined an international women's day panel. the women's the topic was women's representation in entertainment and media. she told them of the abuse that she had while she was pregnant with lilibet. archie >> a bulk of the bullying and abuse that i was experiencing in social media and online was when i was pregnant with archie and with lili, and with a newborn with lili, and with a newborn with each of them, and you just think about that. and you, it's a really wrap your head around why people would be so , so why people would be so, so hateful. it's not catty, it's cruel, right. so who better to give you a rundown? socialite victoria hervey. hello. hello, darling . right, well, we'll darling. right, well, we'll start. let's start with kate middleton, because she's been seen out in her car. i think she was driving, actually, i think before, seen on with her mother, in grounds of windsor, in the grounds of windsor, i think it's almost like. i don't know if that is an accidentally

sort of a photo that was taken or made to look , you know, it's or made to look, you know, it's almost like she needs to show people at this point, you know, she's alive. and, you know, she is kind of going to be making her comeback quite soon this month. >> yeah . >> yeah. >> yeah. >> so she's okay. well, what about her? >> i think it's good that she has been seen, know, has been seen, you know, because, like, of people because, like, a lot of people are coming up with all kinds of things, saying what's happened to her. so i think it's a clear sign that she's recovering. i think she's getting ready for her comeback to the public. >> and what about uncle gary? >> and what about uncle gary? >> uncle gary, i'm very surprised he got voted out first. i actually really thought they were going to keep him in, you know, till the end, because i he's he's like the i think he's he's like the biggest name of the show besides sharon but she's sharon osborne. but she's a lodger so she gets her own room and apparently, you know, she's and apparently, you know, she's a complete like separate sort of. she's got her own vip sort of. she's got her own vip sort of situation going on, which i think anyone that would be think for anyone that would be amazing to do big brother and have own room , so gary, i'm

have your own room, so gary, i'm very surprised about that. i think the family, the middletons, and the royal family, like , are probably very family, like, are probably very happy that he's out, but i don't think he's said anything that is harmful . harmful. >> all you know has been any sort of harm to kate at all? >> no. in fact, i think if anything, he's assisted them and been a little pr bomb going off and helping them with some messages to i think so i think it's been a good way to get little messages out to the public. >> and , i think, i think people >> and, i think, i think people actually sort of quite liked him, i liked him, i was very surprised he was out so quickly. >> i didn't get it. i thought, no, i feel like maybe the royal family had some power there. >> like, just >> so maybe it was like, just get and him out and get him in and get him out and like, to tell her some like, get him to tell her some little, little things kate. >> everything's fine. and then off goes, maybe he off he goes, so, yeah, maybe he was never supposed to be in for the long haul. >> very odd . and do you think >> very odd. and do you think he's tarnished royals? he's tarnished the royals? i think done a good job. think he's done a good job. i think he's done a good job. i think he's done a good job. i think he's yeah. >> no, i think i think he's i

think he's good. i think, think he's been good. i think, actually he didn't come actually like, he didn't come across badly at all and he hasn't sort of given away any sort secrets of any kind. sort of secrets of any kind. >> what about meghan markle? sort of secrets of any kind. >> widone)out meghan markle? sort of secrets of any kind. >> widone aut meghan markle? sort of secrets of any kind. >> widone a speech|an markle? sort of secrets of any kind. >> widone a speech now'iarkle? sort of secrets of any kind. >> widone a speech now i|rkle? sort of secrets of any kind. >> widone a speech now i feel? she's done a speech now i feel this is a new launch for her. a new staging of who she is. yeah. what do you think? >> well , look, i what do you think? >> well, look, i mean, of course it's terrible to have online bullying, especially like someone who is pregnant or has got a newborn. you know, as a female, like i imagine, like the woman is going to feel like very sort of extra emotional at that point. so of course i feel sorry for her in that respect. but, you know, it's always sort of like, look at me and poor me and i went through this. a lot of people go through online bullying. i don't know what she expected, that it was going to be an easy ride, like be such an easy ride, like marrying the family. marrying into the royal family. like, don't quite understand like, i don't quite understand that, well, she can always not read it, right? >> exactly. like i'm not even on twitter . twitter. >> like, just don't go on to that stuff. don't don't look at

it . it. >> i don't understand. i mean, it's quite straightforward, but like said, the first thing like you said, the first thing you said feel sorry for you said was you feel sorry for her. good at playing her. she's very good at playing that again. she is. that victim again. she is. >> is very at playing >> she is very good at playing the victim. and, but i, you know, people were just sort of like, i don't think people even digest what she says that much because it's always sort of the same topic of like, look what happened to me . look, everybody happened to me. look, everybody goes through that kind of situation . i think she needs to situation. i think she needs to just focus on like the positive things that she can sort of give back, to the community and, you know, not not sort of focus on just herself. >> well, you think she could, but i don't think she's going to be able to resist playing the victim. it's been so profitable for her. victoria hervey for her. lady victoria hervey thank much joining thank you so much for joining me. lady victoria me. that is lady victoria hervey. me. i'm nana hervey. you're with me. i'm nana akua is gb news. still to akua. this is gb news. still to come. my great debate in come. my great british debate in the asking, it the next hour. i'm asking, is it time general election? time to call a general election? george says that minor george galloway says that minor parties have a significant

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the gp newsroom, and we start with some breaking news. the uk was involved in an operation overnight in the red sea the defence secretary confirmed that hms richmond used missiles to shoot down two attack drones, repelling an attack by iranian backed houthis in a post on social media, grant shapps said the uk and its allies will continue to take the action necessary to save lives and protect the freedom of navigation. we'll bring you more on that story as we get it. well, huge crowds have been marching through central london and glasgow, demonstrating against the war in gaza . pray, against the war in gaza. pray, pray , pray, pray palestine. pray, pray, pray palestine. thousands took part in the palestine solidarity campaign protest to demanding an immediate ceasefire in london. speeches were made outside of the us embassy. earlier on, the met warned a robust plan is in place to tackle hate crime that's after the

counter—terrorism tsar said that the capital has become a no go zone for jews . well, the capital has become a no go zone forjews . well, meanwhile, zone for jews. well, meanwhile, the head of the foreign affairs committee has accused israel of blocking aid from getting into gaza. blocking aid from getting into gaza . humanitarian supplies are gaza. humanitarian supplies are being airdropped as the crisis in the region deepens. a ship carrying aid is also set to leave cyprus this weekend. that's after the uk , us and the that's after the uk, us and the eu announced plans to create a maritime corridor, with a temporary port being built off the coast of gaza in the coming weeks . two tory mps have used weeks. two tory mps have used a social media to post demand more defence spending in what's being called further signs of tension within the party. foreign office minister anne—marie trevelyan and security minister tom tugendhat published an article appearing to criticise the absence of funds in the budget for defence. they're calling for a spending increase to at least 2.5% of gdp. they're citing global risks posed by countries including russia and china . the

including russia and china. the mothers of two teenagers killed in nottingham say that they've lost faith in the justice system. valdo calocane was handed a hospital order for manslaughter by diminished responsibility after stabbing 19 year old students barnaby webber and grace o'malley kumar, as well as school caretaker ian coates. that was in june last yeah coates. that was in june last year. the teenager's parents have now criticised the police and crown prosecution service , and crown prosecution service, telling the times that they felt foolish for thinking that they would see justice properly served well. a police cordon remains in place at three branches of the legacy independent funeral directors in hull and east riding in yorkshire. that's after humberside police received a report of, quote, concern for care of the deceased. that was on wednesday, a direct line has been set up for anyone who may been set up for anyone who may be affected . a london fertility be affected. a london fertility clinic has had its licence to

operate suspended due to significant concerns . the significant concerns. the telegraph newspaper says the centre had been reported to police over fears that embryos were being destroyed . the were being destroyed. the homerton fertility centre in east london has admitted errors in its freezing processes, which led to some embryos even not surviving or being undetectable . surviving or being undetectable. the suspension means the unit will not be able to accept any new bookings for treatment, but existing patients can still access services . a new access its services. a new honoun access its services. a new honour, the elizabeth emblem, has been created to recognise pubuc has been created to recognise public servants who've died in the line of duty . the fathers of the line of duty. the fathers of murdered pcs, fiona bone and nicola hughes, who were killed in greater manchester in 2012, campaigned for three years to secure the award . bryn hughes secure the award. bryn hughes and paul bowen have described the decision as overwhelming . the decision as overwhelming. >> i'm very pleased and for all the police that have lost their lives in service that they're now getting recognition by the

state and for all the families involved. it will be a privilege to have them. it's been nearly three years campaigning for me and, you know, for finally to be announced . it's i think in one announced. it's i think in one respect, it's humbling, a bit overwhelming. but so pleased for everybody, not just police officers found officers as well. as we found out , for everybody out, it's for everybody in pubuc out, it's for everybody in public will public service and that will mean lot for families. mean a lot for those families. i think . think. >> well, finally, meghan markle says she suffered hateful and cruel online abuse while she was pregnant. speaking at an event in texas, she criticised the toxicity and lack of humanity on the internet and across other parts of the media. >> a bulk of the bullying and abuse that i was experiencing in social media and online was when i was pregnant with archie and with lili, and with a newborn, with lili, and with a newborn, with each of them . and you just with each of them. and you just think about that and you, it's really wrap your head around why people would be so hateful. it's

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in touch gbviews@gbnews.com or tweet me at . gb news. so now tweet me at. gb news. so now it's tweet me at. gb news. so now wsfime tweet me at. gb news. so now it's time for this week's difficult conversation. police will not be pursuing a complaint against author j.k. will not be pursuing a complaint against authorj.k. rowling for against author j.k. rowling for misgendering trans broadcaster india. willoughby determined that rowling's comments did not meet the threshold for criminal action. of course they didn't because he's a man, not jk rowling. india willoughby the decision comes after willoughby filed a complaint alleging that rowling's refusal to refer to her a woman constituted her as a woman constituted a crime. however, legal experts question whether the remarks constituted an offence under uk law. well, this spikes the ongoing debate over trans rights and freedom of speech on social media platforms. but coming so quick to international women's day , i'm asking are women being day, i'm asking are women being erased? well, first i'm going to speak to my panel because they're still with me and then we'll go to author and broadcaster doctor pam spurr.

but first, what do you think i'm going to start with you, lizzie cundy. >> yes. well, as it was international women's day yesterday and one of my greatest things is that i am a woman and i'm proud of it. but look, the trans community need to be treated with kindness and understanding, without a doubt. but this, i mean, jk rowling was just saying the truth. why the hell would the police be involved with this ? i'm sorry. involved with this? i'm sorry. india. look, in 300 years time, if india's bones are dig up, it will be a man. it's biological. that's a biological fact . that's a biological fact. >> yeah. matthew laza. >> yeah. matthew laza. >> so i don't think it was a hate crime, but i do think that it was showing a lack of respect. because. why? because holly willoughby india holly willoughby has india willoughby . sorry, i'm getting my. >> willoughby is a woman. >> willoughby is a woman. >> absolutely. apologise apologies. sorry, sorry. my itv willoughby mixed up. so india has transitioned and therefore is legally a woman. so out of

respect , we should we should respect, we should we should respect, we should we should respect that. but i don't think that misgendering is a crime. well hold on, but but how about for of us we are for those of us that we are called gender critical, even though we're actually speaking the ? the truth? >> i don't understand why we're being but i just don't being critical, but i just don't see why i must be forced into somebody else's delusion, even if they've had all the bits that look like a woman. because to me, as a woman, that's a slight inqu me, as a woman, that's a slight insult that, that that objectifies what a woman is. we are now an object which is just you look like one because you've got boobs and you've hair got boobs and you've got hair and whatever, but and you've got whatever, but you're it's you're not one. i feel it's slightly objective. >> i think mean, so my >> well, i think i mean, so my view why you shouldn't view is that's why you shouldn't be doing so, be criminalised for doing so, but , my personal but that, you know, my personal choice would be if somebody has transitioned to use to, to use the pronouns of their, of their the pronouns of their, of their the gender, they've transitioned to. but i think it should be, you know, if up you know, if it's up to individuals, ultimately, then it's to the it's for people to judge the individuals do. individuals and what they do. >> about rights? >> what about women's rights? what about women wanting to feel safe for safe in in changing rooms for example? yeah, and just because there's there's a, there's a

there's a, there's a, there's a man that now puts on a dress says , i'm a woman. it doesn't says, i'm a woman. it doesn't make it right. i want, you know, l, make it right. i want, you know, i, i just don't think it's fair we're being erased. and if we say anything, we feel, you know, silenced and intimidated , i silenced and intimidated, i think i think i think we should. >> i just bring you back to something you said. of course, you believe in you said you believe in single—sex so, single—sex spaces. yes. so, in your view, india willoughby is a woman. can woman. so india willoughby can enter woman . enter our space as a woman. >> so against self—identification. >> the transition . >> and she's had the transition. you said legally she's a woman. >> so i think legally because the number of people who transition is very, very small and obviously that's not have gone through the process. i personally if you personally believe that if you transitioned and you've got a gender certificate, gender recognition certificate, you so you should be allowed in the so should be compete should india be able to compete against sports, for against me in sports, for example, think it's up to example, i think it's up to individual sports to make decision. >> listen, matthew , that dna >> listen, matthew, that dna that so much, know, that men are so much, you know, that men are so much, you know, that it's in the dna that men are stronger, faster. >> that's individual sports >> that's why individual sports have made those decisions for. >> you're not >> it's not fair. you're not fair on women. >> i don't think it's right. and i don't think fair. and

i don't think it's fair. and i think if are and think that if you are a male and a biological and that's what a biological man and that's what you and will always be, you you are and will always be, you can be trans person. and can be a trans person. and obviously that's totally up to you. i don't think you can force people enter your reality, people to enter your reality, which isn't theirs, because what about their reality? i'm joined now by presenter and author doctor also doctor pam spurr, and also transgender teacher and journalist debbie hayton. i'm going start debbie hayton going to start debbie hayton with you because what do you make of what's happened with india willoughby, where she tried think this is tried to get and i think this is a to scare people so they a tactic to scare people so they don't wrong thing. don't dare say the wrong thing. but what you think, debbie? but what do you think, debbie? >> i think, i think >> well, yes, i think, i think india willoughby has been having a and she's a ridiculous manner and she's gone on and on and on and clearly jk rowling has just had enough and, and said what she thinks and, fair play to jk rowling for that. and india willoughby needs to realise that if you go on twitter and start harassing people, sometimes they might come back at you. and that's what twitter is like. >> well, why why is she so soft, so sensitive to that ? i mean,

so sensitive to that? i mean, you know, if you believe what you know, if you believe what you believe, you're entitled to believe what you believe. but it just it just feels like, oh , just it just feels like, oh, you've hurt my feelings so much. i'm going call the police i'm going to call the police on you, spurr . you, doctor pam spurr. >> yes, i think it's absolutely a waste of police time. i have to disagree with your first guest, matthew, about pronouns , guest, matthew, about pronouns, because when you start using someone's preferred pronouns rather than their sex based pronouns, then that is the first in the fence. and that then lets in the fence. and that then lets in other things, like men who identify as women coming into our spaces. now, one thing i hope the northumbria police will do is not record what happened between jk rowling and india willoughby as a non—crime hate incident. so an ncci because technically, as the four state are finding , ruling found, you are finding, ruling found, you can within law have gender critical beliefs and no one can compel you to call a man a woman

so that for that reason it should not be registered as non—crime hate incident. and also because willoughby has multiple times that the most awful and vile things about rowling. and as the legislature says, if there's already a grievance between parties, it should not like in this sort of case, be recorded as a non—crime hate incident . j.k. rowling is hate incident. j.k. rowling is not even guilty of that , you not even guilty of that, you know, i'm concerned that we're going down a pretty dangerous path in particular for women because, you know, i personally, as a woman, i feel quite angry when i know that somebody isn't a woman , and that's forcing me a woman, and that's forcing me to use their pronouns, not literally , almost not do it literally, almost not do it because they're forcing me to. whereas for you, you know , whereas for you, you know, debbie, i will call you as she or whatever pronoun you me or whatever pronoun you want me to because the way to call you because of the way you yourself. and you carry yourself. and i respect you . but if somebody

respect you. but if somebody isn't what they're telling you they should they be forced they are should they be forced to go with the pronoun debbie ? to go with the pronoun debbie? >> well, nobody should be forced to, ignore your the, ignore their own senses. the evidence of their own eyes. that's what pronouns, their pronouns are there to describe what we see to other people, and we move away from that, and it just becomes ridiculous. and it leads to absurdities . it really does, so, absurdities. it really does, so, you know, i would just echo what's been said. >> there's been no hate here. >> there's been no hate here. >> there's been two adults had a disagreement on twitter, and one of them's gone running to the police. >> it's like little children who go run into running teach go and run into running to teach her. impressive all her. it's not impressive at all what's , am i? what's happened, am i? >> you know, i don't know where we go with this because i'm concerned. i want to bring in matthew laza. where are you looking , matthew? looking. looking, matthew? looking. you're strange. >> i looking in right >> am i looking in the right place now? >> that's better. >> that's better, that's better. matthew. yeah. no, matthew. right. so. yeah. no, no. heard no. matthew laza. you've heard that saying that that you were almost saying that you single—sex you believe in single—sex spaces, were saying spaces, but then you were saying that like india that someone like india willoughby would should be

allowed space in allowed in the women's space in allowed in the women's space in a sex should be a single sex should be considered woman . considered as a woman. >> yeah. look, i mean, i don't believe self—identification, believe in self—identification, which what the scottish which is what the scottish government tried to do and then was blocked , so but i do believe was blocked, so but i do believe that anybody who's had a gender recognition certificate who is legally transitioned, like debbie , i would i would use debbie, i would i would use their the pronouns of the genden their the pronouns of the gender, which they've transitioned to and, you know, but believe in making it but i don't believe in making it a crime. no. a hate crime. no. >> lisa nandy. >> lisa nandy. >> yeah, well, it was. >> yeah, well, it was it was. i mean, what j.k. rowling? mean, what about j.k. rowling? could a case against india could have a case against india willoughby to you know, all willoughby to say, you know, all the , you know, i said the slurs that, you know, i said on x and all the social platforms that's out of order, i'm afraid . look, i'm just sick i'm afraid. look, i'm just sick that now we all feel like silence and intimidated if we speak out about this. it's not fair. women's rights are being erased , and i want to feel safe erased, and i want to feel safe if i'm in a changing room and not have to worry if that there is. just, say, a man with a dress on saying they're a woman. it's not right.

>> well, see, that's the thing, pam. this is the thing, pam, we can't say to someone, oh, how far have you gone along in the transition and all that? so that means that dresses and means that a man who dresses and appears a woman , as in appears to be a woman, as in with external appearance, with his external appearance, can enter those single—sex spaces and, you know, i spoke to somebody who is a transgender woman, and i said i was talking about single—sex spaces and she said, oh, well, no one's ever bothered me before. and that's because, frankly, women are scared. not to ask scared. i'm not going to ask a trans woman or say, look, you shouldn't be here or i'm not. i'm not going to do that ever. pam >> well, it's by the by how much someone presents as a woman what we're dealing with is things like male pattern violence . so like male pattern violence. so even if a man has gone to extraordinary lengths to try and become the most feminine looking woman he can possibly be in his imagination of what femininity is , we are still dealing with is, we are still dealing with men, biological males who have much more, who commit, you know,

98% of violent crime in our society. you know, and, and, and, you know, the same amount of sexual violence. so we're still putting ourselves at risk for the feelings of men . now, for the feelings of men. now, what i say to people identifying as trans is, please do whatever you want to do. you can dress how you want, but please respect women's boundaries and our rights . and as i say, you can rights. and as i say, you can walk down the street in the flounces of dress. that doesn't matter. that's fine. i celebrate your fashion. i love that, but respect our spaces, respect our sports. and we will never go around the fact that these are men we were talking about at the core of this issue . core of this issue. >> a final word to you, debbie . >> a final word to you, debbie. >> a final word to you, debbie. >> yes. i'll just, i'll just, say something about spaces and pronouns. pronouns. >> use whatever pronouns you like to describe me. >> the person you see. but when it comes to spaces, i won't use

women's spaces . and i think one women's spaces. and i think one thing to be said about that is if if good trans women if good, if good trans women stay then women stay out, then bad trans women stand out. >> yeah, that's that's a nice one to end on. thank you so much to debbie hayton and also doctor pam and panellist pam spurr and my panellist lizzie cundy. and that other guy with glasses . matthew laza. with the glasses. matthew laza. i'm teasing . this is gb news. if i'm teasing. this is gb news. if you've just tuned in, welcome on board. it'sjust you've just tuned in, welcome on board. it's just coming you've just tuned in, welcome on board. it'sjust coming up you've just tuned in, welcome on board. it's just coming up to 19 minutes after 5:00. i'm nana akua. minutes after 5:00. i'm nana akua . we're live on tv, online akua. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. now listen, it's time for our latest great british giveaway, but first it was phil from west yorkshire , and now we have our yorkshire, and now we have our latest winner, charles from stoke on trent , who won 18 grand stoke on trent, who won 18 grand in cash. here's the moment. charles found that he had won. >> charles, i have some really good news for you. >> you're the winner of the great british giveaway. >> oh, nick. oh, dear. you've .

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parliamentary candidates. imagine that. >> if you want to hear the rest of that, then make sure you join me after my show tomorrow at 6:00. neil oliver's show will be on and you can hear the full interview there with his comments as they come. as polling shows, reform has hit a new high and support for the main parties has slipped significantly . even mps significantly. even tory mps don't confidence don't seem to have confidence in their own party, with 60 announcing standing announcing they're standing down. theresa down. the latest being theresa may. and now there's even mounting speculation that boris johnson could return to politics because of the growing concerns over sunak perceived over rishi sunak perceived shortcomings. so faith in shortcomings. so with faith in our politicians, clearly at an all time low, my great british debate this hour, i'm asking, is it time to just call a general election? well, joining me now denis labour mp denis macshane former labour mp martin , ceo of pollsters, martin baxter, ceo of pollsters, and danczuk former and also simon danczuk former rochdale parliamentary candidate and norman baker. right. so i'm going to start with you, simon danczuk . danczuk. >> yeah. well, i don't think he should call a general election now . i take the general view

now. i take the general view that they should run their course, i think he might course, but i think he might well do i think sunak might go in not least because some of in may not least because some of the points made there by galloway that sunak will think that labour are little that labour are a little bit vulnerable in terms of the muslim vote, which could then go to somebody like galloway's party, and that might just help some conservatives get over the line in some key constituencies. >> interesting . all right. >> interesting. all right. martin baxter. >> well, prime ministers call elections when they think they can win them. and at the moment, the opinion polls are very clear that couldn't that the conservatives couldn't win them. >> w- e hand, there may >> on the other hand, there may be a little at back be a little thought at the back of sunak's that, of rishi sunak's mind that, things that things might get worse that a the their leading or labour's lead in the polls goes up month by month at the moment. so by month at the moment. and so he lessen damage, he could lessen the damage, perhaps by causing calling an early election. >> there's no sign of that >> but there's no sign of that so far at the moment. >> we'll have to wait and see. >> we'll have to wait and see. >> norman well, quite >> norman baker well, quite clearly the conservatives are going to lose the election as things stand at the moment.

>> and i think the longer that goes the worse the result goes on, the worse the result will public don't will be. and the public don't like hanging for grim like parties hanging on for grim death . he paid he paid a price. death. he paid he paid a price. in labour government, in 79. the labour government, with callaghan , john major in 97 with callaghan, john major in 97 paid price and gordon brown paid the price and gordon brown paid the price and gordon brown paid the price in 2010. so although he will lose now, he'd be wise to go because actually the has up its mind the country has made up its mind and tories have run out of and the tories have run out of ideas out road . ideas and run out of road. >> but denis macshane, isn't it? doesn't appear to be getting doesn't it appear to be getting worse for the labour party? the longer this is going on? so the longer this is going on? so the longer rishi sunak hangs on, the worse seems to be for the worse it seems to be for the labour party. what do you think ? labour party. what do you think? >> well, no, i think if you follow the polls, but they just keep better and better keep getting better and better and my worry is and better, my worry is a different one. i think labour's going to win the election. i'm nervous. not sure about that until very recently, but i think now country's made up its now the country's made up its mind. i there in 1996 seven mind. i was there in 1996 seven with john major. i there with john major. i was there with john major. i was there with 2010 with gordon brown. we all knew we were going to win in

the first 97 election, and we all knew we were going to lose in 2010. simon will remember, and nothing's going to change that. i'm more worried about how prepared labour is because the tories are cynically in cold bloodedly, just leaving a scorched earth behind them like the labour party did when they took power. >> the tories took power. no, no we didn't. >> the country was actually run quite well and, and it was in 97. i mean ken clarke left labour left labour and tony blair reasonably working motor. and what we've seen in the budget i don't want to go to budget i don't want to go to budget details is hunt cold bloodedly spending bloodedly and cynically spending money making promises that could never be met because he doesn't have to meet them, and the tories hope that will buckle labour and he will. >> well, he's stolen labour policies. he's still won policies. well, he's still won one little one. >> i'm well, there's doubt >> i'm well, there's no doubt about it. what's happening here as for conservatives is as well for the conservatives is reform uk taking a chunk of their votes. so reform uk now up to 13% in the opinion polls. they're ahead of the liberal

democrats who've been around hundreds of years but are completely flailing around. i'm sure norman will have a view on that, but the they're down to 10, if not less than that. so reform has taken a chunk of the tory votes. but i come back to this point that dennis hasn't addressed. will the workers party, galloway party, take a chunk of labour votes in some key constituencies? i think they might well do. >> yeah. well, i'm going to let norman baker respond and i want to. yeah. no, no thank you. >> well look, i mean we should be doing than are be doing better than we are quite but we are going quite frankly. but we are going to up a large of to pick up a large number of seats because we're in good seats because we're in a good second a large second position in a large number the way the number of seats. and the way the electoral works, which is electoral system works, which is very people like very unfair on people like reform, , the way that reform, actually, the way that the works that, people the system works is that, people will decide who can beat the tories. that's what the game's going be in election , and going to be in the election, and they're decide they're going to decide it's going labour or going to be either labour or lib dem, to according are dem, to according where you are in country. we will do in the country. so we will do all the election. we all right in the election. we should do better. but all right in the election. we shotknow, do better. but all right in the election. we shotknow, the do better. but all right in the election. we shotknow, the toriesyetter. but all right in the election. we shotknow, the tories areer. but all right in the election. we shotknow, the tories are going you know, the tories are going to this and i think to lose this and i think they

will more because will lose more heavily because of think reform of reform. i don't think reform are going win any seats at are going to win any seats at all, or most. but they're all, 1 or 2 at most. but they're going do a lot of damage to going to do a lot of damage to tory that's george tory party. that's what george galloway, could do, galloway, i think he could do, damage because damage labour party because i don't , a great enthusiasm don't detect, a great enthusiasm for starmer. think for keir starmer. i think there's a willingness to get rid of the tories and labour are the default option , but don't default option, but i don't actually they keir actually think they like keir starmer latest starmer very much. the latest opinion polling for starmer is actually it's —9% in actually very bad. it's —9% in approval terms, which is really poor an opposition leader. poor for an opposition leader. >> well, yeah, especially given the conditions he's under. the conditions that he's under. norman the country didn't like margaret they still margaret thatcher and they still voted her in. your, your leader ed davey , perhaps he should move ed davey, perhaps he should move on and then shuffle on and then perhaps other people will maybe vote for them as i want to vote for them as well. i want to come to martin, come back finally to martin, though. you seeing though. martin, are you seeing that you sensing that that these are you sensing that the workers party from george galloway have some impact galloway could have some impact on maybe labour votes? on maybe the labour votes? >> seen that yet. >> we've certainly seen in the in our figures that reform are taking a lot of votes away from the conservatives. and that's

hurting the, the conservatives in their prospects seats in their prospects of seats as well. in their prospects of seats as weland i agree with norman >> and i agree with norman baker's analysis that lib baker's analysis that the lib dems fewer than dems may get fewer votes than reform, but are to gain a reform, but are likely to gain a lot and reform is lot of seats, and reform is probably less likely to gain seats. >> $- ?-- >> george galloway at the moment, bit of a moment, is a little bit of a wild he's wild card. it's relatively he's relatively this relatively new on the scene this time around . we don't have a lot time around. we don't have a lot of polling numbers that. of polling numbers for that. there's potential for there's the potential for something there was something to happen. there was talk say stand talk that he might say stand against sadiq khan in london, but that's probably goes but i guess that's probably goes by the board now. he's, back in westminster , so one to watch westminster, so one to watch there. but at the moment the summary is that conservative votes are going in all directions. they're disappearing from the conservative party. they're to to the they're going to labour to the lib reform , to staying lib dems to reform, to staying at home to, not knowing to at home to, not knowing what to do . so the, that's the big story do. so the, that's the big story at the moment. okay. >> so this is a yes or no because i've got to go to the news. is it time to call for a general election? yes or no? martin? >> i'd say sunak no martin? >> i'd say sunak will say no. >> i'd say sunak will say no. >> denis macshane. >> denis macshane. >> over with. >> get it over with. >> get it over with. >> yes, simon. danczuk. >> so, yes, simon. danczuk. >> so, yes, simon. danczuk. >> no, i would no. go the

course. >> and norman baker. >> and norman baker. >> as soon as possible. >> listen, thank so much for >> listen, thank you so much for your thoughts. they are. your thoughts. there they are. brilliant so brilliant stuff. right. so that's think . what do that's what they think. what do you this is news on tv, you think this is gb news on tv, onune you think this is gb news on tv, online digital radio. i'm online and on digital radio. i'm nana up. we'll nana akua coming up. we'll continue great british continue with the great british debate this hour. i'm asking, is it time a election ? it time for a general election? you know, thoughts of my you know, the thoughts of my panel you know, the thoughts of my panel. get your panel. but first, let's get your latest . latest news headlines. >> thanks. nana 532 i'm ray addison in the gp newsroom. our top stories . the addison in the gp newsroom. our top stories. the uk was addison in the gp newsroom. our top stories . the uk was involved top stories. the uk was involved in a joint operation overnight which saw dozens of drones downed in the red sea. the defence secretary confirmed that hms richmond shot down two drones, repelling an attack by iranian backed houthis. the us says in total , coalition forces says in total, coalition forces hit 28 unmanned aerial vehicles in a post on social media, grant shapps said the uk and its allies will continue to take the action necessary to save lives

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is gb news. don't forget, you can stream the show live on youtube or download the gb news app youtube or download the gb news app completely for free. i'm nana akua. we're live on tv , nana akua. we're live on tv, onune nana akua. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. it's just coming up to 39 after five. now, george galloway says that parties could that minor parties could radically alter the next election. his comments come as polling shows that reform has hit a new high in terms of popularity , while support for popularity, while support for the main parties slipped. the main parties has slipped. and rumours of boris and with rumours of boris johnson's potential return amid growing within growing dissatisfaction within the conservative party, the call for leadership grows louder. for new leadership grows louder. even tory mps don't seem to have confidence in their own party. theresa may, of course, being the latest in a long run of people who have just decided to just quit after the next election. so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking is time asking is it time to call a general election? let's see what my that. former my panel make of that. former labour matthew labour party adviser matthew laza columnist laza broadcast from columnist lizzie . lizzie cundy. >> lizzie cundy do you know what? is . put us out of what? yes, it is. put us out of our misery. absolutely, absolutely. we've had 14 years of lies and lies and lies.

record high migration, more strikes than you can do in a matchbox. and it's just been abysmal . all performance from abysmal. all performance from the tories. and frankly, i've had enough time for a change. reform, i say, but george galloway , i'm sorry. i mean, galloway, i'm sorry. i mean, george galloway, he's had more comebacks than the rolling stones and he just is all about headunes stones and he just is all about headlines and cheap shots. >> he's got more than nine lives. he's a he certainly has. >> oh yeah. >> oh yeah. >> but don't forget , it's a sad >> but don't forget, it's a sad world in politics when someone that pretended to be a cat can win against another three established parties. yeah that's the worry. >> well, i mean, one of the things is, i mean, george, i mean, the thing about george galloway is an galloway is he is an irrepressible there irrepressible character. there were unique circumstances in rochdale, but last week there was mayor was a by—election for the mayor of lewisham. so 200,000 of lewisham. so it's 200,000 people, the labour got people, and the labour got 21,576. and george galloway's party came, i think fifth, and got 2378, so , you know, unless got 2378, so, you know, unless you can clone george galloway

amongst the, the ten biggest muslim constituencies, it's just george talking through his hat as he, as he likes to do all through his whiskers or through his whiskers from when he was. i mean, absolutely, we need a general election now. the country out of country needs to be put out of its but parties its misery. but the tory parties have of its misery. have put out of its misery. i mean, we've seen in news mean, we've seen in the news with fighting with them fighting amongst themselves defence themselves about defence spending, and spending, even today. and the country for change country is crying out for change and ready. and labour is ready. >> you might say >> yeah, well, you might say that, some people not that, but some people might not be absolutely. >> you know, still >> and you know, labour's still got to its to the got to make its case to the country seal the deal. and country and seal the deal. and they there's no they certainly there's no complacency. from complacency. i know from speaking labour hq, complacency. i know from spetknow labour hq, complacency. i know from spetknow , labour hq, complacency. i know from spetknow , who'll labour hq, complacency. i know from spetknow , who'll be labour hq, complacency. i know from spetknow , who'll be busyyur hq, complacency. i know from spetknow , who'll be busy working you know, who'll be busy working this the this weekend ready for the election. they're complacent election. they're not complacent but people to but it's time for the people to have their choice. >> captain i'm >> but captain flip—flop, i'm sorry . i mean, me, i say sorry. i mean, for me, i say farage to grab the bull by farage needs to grab the bull by the horns. we need someone decisive like him. formidable character. and you know, and if he comes back, i think they might come third. look, he took on natwest. >> i think might come second. >> they might come second even. >> they might come second even. >> labour are >> i think labour party are going to be surprised going to be very surprised because i everything is

because i think everything is eating the eating into their vote. the faster we a general faster we get a general election, better them, election, the better for them, the is the better. exactly. there is nothing without and your nothing without you and your views. our great views. let's welcome our great british voices, their opportunity british voices, their opportur us they think and tell us what they think about we're about the topics we're discussing. got two of discussing. i've only got two of you, jonathan jones. yeah, in cornwall. you. cornwall. i'll start with you. okay. that okay. jonathan. oh, is that the new mug? you've new or the updated mug? you've got the new mug? yeah. good. yeah. >> i was doing a tea tasting with earlier. with gb news earlier. >> why i've got. fantastic. >> but it'd disappointing if >> but it'd be disappointing if the over too soon, the election was over too soon, because will. like because it will. we like the idea of it coinciding the idea of it coinciding with the election donald in election of donald trump in america and it's going to be such a great fun year, isn't it? >> i think mugs of tea >> i think how many mugs of tea will year watching will drink this year watching the unfold ? the spectacle unfold? >> would be fabulous. >> yeah, it would be fabulous. well, to cheers to well, cheers to that. cheers to everyone get mug tea. everyone to get your mug of tea. watch unfold. watch the spectacle unfold. right, go to you by andrew right, let's go to you by andrew gwynne in solihull. what do you think , good afternoon. i think, good afternoon. nana. i think, good afternoon. nana. i think i'll be drinking something stronger than if donald trump gets elected, but but but anyway, to this election. to our election here, yeah. of course, it's election here, yeah. of course, wsfime election here, yeah. of course, it's time , the tory party,

it's time, the tory party, they've run their course , they've run their course, they've run their course, they've i would, you know, they'd love to say they've fought the good fight and all of that, but they haven't, they've run out of ideas, it's pretty clueless. it's very weak, actually. leadership. now, that's been shown by the by the leader. just say when the election will be. don't prevaricate and i agree, labour are ready . i don't think there's are ready. i don't think there's any complacency, but the sooner that the toxic tory party are ousted from their position right now, the better . now, the better. >> well, some people would say that they are so disappointed with the tory party, but they'll still vote for them. it doesn't necessarily like that. necessarily work like that. thank to brian thank you so much to brian dugan in jonathan jones thank you so much to brian dugan in cornwall. jonathan jones thank you so much to brian dugan in cornwall. cheersathan jones thank you so much to brian dugan in cornwall. cheers there|ones thank you so much to brian dugan in cornwall. cheers there you; go. >> i wondered where all the posh mugs had gone. >> that's it, got all >> well that's it, he's got all the he's not supposed to the mugs. he's not supposed to have those. stay have one of those. listen, stay tuned. it's for tuned. coming up, it's time for the quiz with my the quick fire quiz with my fantastic the top fantastic panel and the top stories week.

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in. where have you been? you've almost missed the entire show. i'm claire. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. it's time for clip bait. a clip that caught my eye today with social media users quoting to those thinking of playing the race card. let's just have a listen to this . listen to this. >> this one's going to get rough. okay i am here to rebuke the black people who live in 2023. in the 21st century and talk about slavery constantly as if it happened to you, as if you were on some slave ship somewhere, as if you were on somewhere, as if you were on some plantation somewhere. you you who hasn't even lived 40 years, you who doesn't even remember what life before the internet looked like ? you, who internet looked like? you, who lives in the softest, most comfortable age in the history of the human race. you who lives in rich countries with rights and opportunities that most

human beings on this earth cannot even fathom . and you cannot even fathom. and you spend your life crying daily about slavery is something that had nothing to do with you . some had nothing to do with you. some of you even want free money, right? somebody should come and give you free money because some person who had nothing to do with you was enslaved in cuba 400 years ago . shut up and sit 400 years ago. shut up and sit down. i hear this all the time . down. i hear this all the time. and listen, if any one of you wants to come and deal with me on this one, bring it. i want all the smoke with you. you. you know who you right? know who you are, right? you. yeah, you . you snake. bring it. yeah, you. you snake. bring it. he's amazing. >> you're going to get him on the show last week. >> shut up and sit down. he finished it. that >> i mean, i'll tell you what. >> i mean, i'll tell you what. >> i'd love to see him debate the church of england. the archbishop of canterbury. yes, after their announcement this week slavery

week on on the slavery reparations. week on on the slavery reparawith. week on on the slavery reparawith him or what an agree with him or not, what an amazing communicator. agree with him or not, what an am special mmunicator. agree with him or not, what an am special mnwokery.'. he >> special for wokery. but he just says all. just says it all. >> was right, wasn't >> that was right, wasn't it? well, hilarious, wasn't >> that was right, wasn't it? we but hilarious, wasn't >> that was right, wasn't it? we but it's hilarious, wasn't >> that was right, wasn't it? we but it's true. rious, wasn't >> that was right, wasn't it? we but it's true. it's;, wasn't >> that was right, wasn't it? we but it's true. it's gotasn't it? but it's true. it's got nothing with was never nothing to do with i was never a slave. was a slave. i'm slave. i was never a slave. i'm a privileged young woman . a very privileged young woman. i'm very thankful for this country born here and country and being born here and a and i'm very a very young woman, and i'm very a very young woman, and i'm very a young woman. woman. a young woman. very young woman. right. time for the right. so now it's time for the quick of the quick fire quiz, the part of the show test my on show where i test my panel on some the stories some of the other stories hitting headlines now. hitting the headlines right now. joining party joining me, former labour party adviser and adviser matthew laza and broadcaster columnist lizzie broadcaster and columnist lizzie cundy. lizzie, your buzzer please. lasso your please. matthew lasso your buzzer please. and don't forget to at home. yes, yes. to play along at home. yes, yes. right. let's do it. question one anthony joshua stunned francis ngannou i've tried to say that with sensational knockout last night, but what round did the knockout come? was it a the third b the second or c the fourth matthew laza b the second. the second round i'm going to say third. the third. >> that's a but i know it's b. >> that's a but i know it's b. >> the answer is it's b the second round. matthew did you watch the fight. >> no i'm not a massive boxing fan. it a guess.

fan. but it was a guess. >> was a guess very good >> it was a guess very good guess. good guess guess. very good guess confidently well. confidently delivered as well. right. wins. how right. closest answer wins. how old is the jumper? is this jumper believed to be from the 19th century, found at the national archives ? matthew laza. national archives? matthew laza. >> 180 years, lizzie cundy, 150 150 years. let's see, because the answer is 200 years. no, 200 years old, 200 years old. >> the national. >> the national. >> i'm on the national archives mailing list, and i got an email about that and i didn't open it. i have done that. i got i should have done that. i got it exactly right. i should have done that. i got it ebutly right. i should have done that. i got it ebut yes,]ht. i should have done that. i got it ebut yes, this jumper was >> but yes, this jumper was found condition the found in great condition at the national archives, discovered among a huge stash of parcels which a which had been seized from a ship the navy in the ship by the royal navy in the 19th century. that now if you i would i that it would as well. i like that it would as well. i like that it would have belt on it. look really listen, if want really good. listen, if you want to take to see that jumper, go and take a download the news a look and download the gb news app. false? app. right? true or false? a couple from guildford just couple from guildford have just got a train after got married on a train after following kiss using following their first kiss using the lizzie cundy the rail service. lizzie cundy true or false? false. let's see. i think you're probably right.

matthew. no it's true. lizzie got the two one, two one. yes, it is true . it is true. >> i met my first boyfriend on a train. it's like love at first sight. >> really? didn't last long, did it? >> no. leo and vince smith approached great western railways, offering the chance to have the ceremony on board, which they took , right. it's which they took, right. it's lovely. next question. question four. which asian billionaire hired celebrate hired rihanna? and to celebrate a ? a wedding? >> asian billionaire. oh, i saw that. i saw the pictures of rihanna. >> somebody say something, lizzie cundy. >> i'm trying to think of what, asian billionaire. >> i saw the pictures of rihanna, but i can't think of the pass, pass, pass. >> sorry, i don't know. well the annette ambani, the 28 year old is the youngest son of asia's richest man, mukesh ambani. >> oh, was a tough one. it was, wasn't it? >> are you? >> are you? >> because our focus was on rihanna? >> i really enjoyed that. right. final question, singer ray i don't think you can win now, lizzie. >> no, technically she can. >> no, technically she can. >> this might be because >> this just might be because there's so she could >> this just might be because therea so she could >> this just might be because therea ray so she could >> this just might be because therea ray dominatede could >> this just might be because therea ray dominated the jld >> this just might be because therea ray dominated the brit sing. a ray dominated the brit awards lizzie awards this year. oh, lizzie will this. who won?

will get this. but who won? international of the international artist of the year? a taylor swift? b's year? was it a taylor swift? b's sza c kendrick lamar, lizzie sza or c kendrick lamar, lizzie cundy c c kendrick lamar? what do you think of taylor swift? taylor swift okay, it was actually we're both wrong. none of them got it right. >> we're down with the kids. >> we're down with the kids. we've got a slew. >> lizzie tried the tactic confidently. say it confidently. >> was >> yeah. so i was out. >> i was out. >> got it wrong, i was out. >> got it wrong, i was out. >> i was trying to be confident. >> got it wrong, i was out. >> lizzie,trying to be confident. >> got it wrong, i was out. >> lizzie,tryinsorry)e confident. >> got it wrong, i was out. >> lizzie,tryinsorry)edidn'tient. >> lizzie, i'm sorry i didn't watch this year. watch the brits this year. >> it just goes >> i didn't either. it just goes on a bit, isn't it? >> i was elsewhere, really. on a bit, isn't it? >> on as elsewhere, really. on a bit, isn't it? >> oh .; elsewhere, really. >> oh. >> oh. >> sounds interesting. sounds intriguing. us r&b intriguing. the sca, the us r&b musician whose real name solana imani rowe , was named imani rowe, was named international artist of the year at the brit awards on saturday. so we go. well, so there we go. well, congratulations to my panellists, 21i congratulations to my panellists, 21! think it was. thank you. panellists, 21! think it was. thai k you. panellists, 21! think it was. thai let)u. panellists, 21! think it was. thai let him win as he was back. >> i let him win as he was back. i you i let you win. >> well done at home. >> well done to you at home. thank well, on today's show thank you. well, on today's show i've asking should i've been asking should pro—palestine i've been asking should pro—palitoine i've been asking should pro—palito continue? and allowed to continue? and according to our twitter poll, 11.6% yes. and 88.4% 11.6% of you say yes. and 88.4% of you say no. wow. i'm with

you.thank of you say no. wow. i'm with you. thank you so much to my panel. you. thank you so much to my panel . former labour party panel. former labour party adviser matthew lawson, matthew laza always a pleasure to see you as a broadcaster and columnist. lizzie cundy, and as even columnist. lizzie cundy, and as ever, a huge thank you to you for your company. that's it from me. but up next, the saturday five, they've moved an hour forward. then at eight it's the saturday night showdown with leo curse. and at 9 pm. it is mark dolan tonight. but i'll leave you with the weather. but before you with the weather. but before you go, remember, tomorrow , you go, remember, tomorrow, 6:00, george galloway, you must watch that neil oliver speaks to him about the whole situation with the workers party. and, stay tuned and find out all about that tomorrow at six. but i'll be back tomorrow, 3:00 till six. stay tuned. i'll leave you now with weather. enjoy . now with the weather. enjoy. >> it looks like things are

heating up. boxt boiler is sponsors of weather on . gb news. sponsors of weather on. gb news. >> hello there. welcome to your latest gb news weather from the met office. as we move into sunday, it remains cloudy and damp across many areas and we keep that keen easterly breeze too. and that's thanks to this area of low pressure. just sat to the south of the uk, feeding in of cloud outbreaks of in areas of cloud outbreaks of rain, the tight isobars indicating that brisk easterly wind there too for the rest of saturday into the early hours of sunday it remains cloudy. further outbreaks of rain, which could be heavy at times across parts of england and wales and then pushes northwards as we move through towards the end of the night, temperatures generally staying above freezing for the vast majority of us due to cloud and the outbreaks to the cloud and the outbreaks of rain. so for most it's a cloudy, damp start to sunday morning. there could be a few glimmers of sunshine across central southern parts of england into parts of england later on into parts of wales, but for most of us it

will be cloudy. further outbreaks of rain at times and nofice outbreaks of rain at times and notice the wind still coming in off the north sea, so eastern coasts particularly chilly for the time of year. best of the temperatures towards the west and , reaching double and southwest, reaching double figures any brighter spells and southwest, reaching double figuimondayy brighter spells and southwest, reaching double figuimonday . brighter spells and southwest, reaching double figuimonday . another spells and southwest, reaching double figuimonday . another cloudy day, into monday. another cloudy day, the wind still driving in outbreaks of rain and low cloud from the north. see the best of any brighter spells will be across western areas, but even here remain on the here it will remain on the cloudy side and it remains cloudy side and it remains cloudy right through much of the week. largely dry, though there will be some light rain and the winds will generally start to ease to that warm feeling inside i >> -- >> from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> 2024 a battleground year. >> 2024 a battleground year. >> the year the nation decides as the parties gear up their campaign for the next general election, who will be left standing when the british people make one of the biggest decisions of their lives ?

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