speak to two people want to speak to two people relating to a report of hate speech following pro—palestine marches in london today. speech following pro—palestine marches in london today . the marches in london today. the force posted an image of two women using loudhailers , who women using loudhailers, who they say could assist detectives with their inquiries. they're urging anyone who knows them to get in touch. thousands of people took part in the palestine solidarity campaign protests in both london and glasgow. today. they're demanding immediate demanding an immediate ceasefire. the met police says there was no significant public order disturbance, but six people were arrested and one man was later de—arrested . the was later de—arrested. the ministry of defence has confirmed reports of a fire on board its flagship aircraft carrier, hms queen elizabeth, this morning. the royal navy vesselis this morning. the royal navy vessel is currently docked at glen mallan in scotland. the mod said the fire was quickly brought under control and there are no reported injuries. no ordnance was involved in the incident . they're now working incident. they're now working with scottish fire and rescue to establish the cause . the pm says

establish the cause. the pm says he plans to pay for cuts to national insurance contributions by kerbing the benefits budget. rishi sunak told the sunday times that he's concerned by forecasts which show welfare spending is set to rise by more than £100 billion a year until 20 2829. mr sunak said 2.5 million working age people have been signed off as unfit to work currently, and he says , quote, currently, and he says, quote, that just doesn't strike me as a system that's working properly . system that's working properly. he insists he'll end national insurance contributions if he wins the next general election . wins the next general election. well, the uk was involved in a joint operation overnight which saw dozens of drones downed in the red sea. defence secretary grant shapps confirming that hms richmond shot down two of those drones, repelling an attack by iranian backed houthis. the us says in total , coalition forces says in total, coalition forces hit 28 unmanned aerial vehicles. in his post on social media, grant shapps said the uk and its

allies will continue to take necessary action to save lives and protect the freedom of navigation . and finally, navigation. and finally, humberside police have removed a number of bodies from the premises of a funeral director in hull after reports of concern for care of the deceased. cordons remain in place at three branches of legacy independent funeral directors that's in east yorkshire. they're investigating whether any criminal offences have been committed. the bodies have been committed. the bodies have been committed. the bodies have been taken to the local authority authority mortuary in hull. a direct line has been set up for anyone who may have been affected . for the latest affected. for the latest stories, why not sign up to the gb news alerts by scanning the qr code? it's on your screen right now, or go to gb news .com/ alerts. time now for our headliners .

headliners. >> thanks, ray. hello and welcome to headliners. i'm nick dixon taking you through tomorrow's top stories for the next hour. and i'm joined by the people's gammon paul cox . lovely. >> and the and the gammon person louis schaefer i've gone for. could you comprised of about 90% gammon because all you eat is meat. that's what i was going for. you eat meat, but i don't eat much pork because they've got omega got a very bad omega six omega three also three ratio. oh, is it also religious reasons? >> i didn't want to say anything, but no , i'm bad, i'm bad. >> i'm a bad boy. okay well, let's press on then and do the front pages . so the mail on front pages. so the mail on sunday has diana's brother. how i was sexually abused at just 11 by a school matron . by a school matron. >> shocking story there. >> shocking story there. >> the sunday times johnson flew for secret talks with autocrat, which we'll get on to in a minute. >> that's madura, the observer has revealed legal fears over new govt definition of extremism

. the sunday express has labour are cowards over boat crisis . are cowards over boat crisis. >> the sunday mirror goes with rihanna. >> legacy starts in school. that's about brianna ghey mother. and finally, the daily star on sunday. the rocky horror show, which is a shocking story about socks we'll be covering in about socks we'll be covering in a moment. those were the headlines. all right, let's kick off with the observer. >> paul, the observer. off with the observer. >> paul, the observer . they've >> paul, the observer. they've been observing again. nick revealed legal fears over new gove definition of extremism. so michael gove is set to announce a controversial plan this week to ban individuals and groups who undermine the uk system of liberal democracy from public life, despite fears it's at risk of a legal challenge , etc, etc. of a legal challenge, etc, etc. here's my point on this i'm very uncomfortable with any speech being restricted and why wouldn't i be? as a free speech advocate, i think we have to. everybody has to be able to be

heard, we have to be able to heard, and we have to be able to listen them. how are you listen to them. how are you going find fringe going to find the fringe fanatics if you don't understand what being fringe what it is? they're being fringe fanatics about just by their ties, judging by louis. >> but that's a good point. that's a good point. that's one way i see what you mean. i mean, look, it's there was a strange thing you had this thing where you had this anti—muslim hatred adviser he just which just appointed gove, which people a people thought was a bit strange. some people strange. and then some people probably liked but then probably liked it. but then you've got this new definition of sunak kind of soft of extremism. sunak kind of soft sold to some thought with sold it to us. some thought with that he did, he was that weird speech he did, he was talking about islamic extremism and even though talking about islamic extremism ancknow even though talking about islamic extremism ancknow of even though talking about islamic extremism ancknow of theen though talking about islamic extremism ancknow of the peoplejh talking about islamic extremism ancknow of the people on we know 90% of the people on the terror are islamic terror watch list are islamic extremists, not far right. but he come up with he needs to come up with this woolly definition to sort of incorporate everyone, doesn't he? about he? but people are worried about civil free civil liberties, free expression, protests . expression, normal protests. what do you think, lewis? >> don't know who the >> well, we don't know who the enemy is. that's this. enemy is. that's what this. that's problem is. is that's what the problem is. is that name ? rishi that what's his name? rishi sunak putting everybody sunak isn't is putting everybody in so it means that in there. so it means that everybody is at risk. but the truth is that people know who the can't say who the enemy is. i can't say who the enemy is. i can't say who the is because like my the enemy is because i like my i like being on the tv after all

these years to be on the tv. but you know who is. you know who the enemy is. >> yeah, it's an interesting quote. he says. it's about individuals and who individuals and groups who undermine the uk's system of liberal really, liberal democracy. now, really, the there is that the problem there is that liberal liberalism and democracy the problem there is that libeoften)eralism and democracy the problem there is that libeoften atalism and democracy the problem there is that libeoften at odds and democracy the problem there is that libeoften at odds .|nd democracy the problem there is that libeoften at odds . you're nocracy the problem there is that libeoften at odds . you're tryingy are often at odds. you're trying to maintain this liberal order, but things happen that fall outside it. brexit being one outside of it. brexit being one obvious certain obvious example or certain minority have certain minority groups have certain interests that may be seen to go against the liberal hegemony or whatever you want to call it. so that's that's the problem. he's sort need this. we sort of saying, we need this. we want, know, it's quite want, you know, it's quite a sort a paradox, really. sort of it's a paradox, really. how you defend liberalism how how do you defend liberalism against it's against democracy when it's not when illiberal? when it's illiberal? >> disingenuously leads the >> it disingenuously leads the reader believe this thing reader to believe this thing exists, liberal exists, i.e. this liberal democracy, this culture. we're constantly trying to protect . constantly trying to protect. there's been eroded so much over the last couple of decades . i the last couple of decades. i don't know what it is we're trying to protect anymore. all i know people got crazy know is, if people got crazy things i want to hear things to say, i want to hear them so that we can protect ourselves from them. and for comedic value. >> yes . that's why we have my

>> yes. that's why we have my podcast. yeah, it's podcast. but yeah, it's interesting he says. interesting language, he says. it's about extremism, includes attempts or attempts to overturn, exploit or undermine uk's system of undermine the uk's system of liberal to liberal democracy, to confer advantages disadvantages on advantages or disadvantages on specific groups. that's the thing liberalism fears. thing that liberalism fears. most having any most any group having any advantage any other. we're advantage over any other. we're all equal anyway . i all one big equal blob anyway. i think we've probably covered that i've given my that enough. i've given my little take on it. next is the sunday lewis good news. sunday times. lewis good news. johnson flew for secret talks with autocrat. this is boris johnson. who is? i thought he's out of government, but he's not out of government, but he's not out of government, but he's not out of government. and this is the autocrat. it sounds really nice. is this maduro guy who's the venezuelan dictator? horrible, , horrible horrible, horrible, horrible person. and, and they didn't it says it was an unofficial trip, but it just so happens that bofis but it just so happens that boris johnson flies in there and meets with this guy. it was totally official. what they want totally official. what they want to do is they want what what they're promising the venezuelans, we don't know. right but what i think they're promising them is they're saying, hey, be on our side

against the with ukraine, against the with ukraine, against the with ukraine, against the russians, and we're going to screw we're going to help you out with the guyanese situation, is next situation, which is right next door , because venezuela wants to door, because venezuela wants to declare war. they want to clear, they want to go in and march and take over half of guyana. yeah >> by the way, just quickly, it's interesting that the only people describes as people lewis describes as horrible and horrible are dictators and women. only two women. they're the only two categories. do you categories. but what do you think, this seems think, paul? this seems like bofis think, paul? this seems like boris bit he boris going a bit rogue. he texted the way over. texted cameron on the way over. i'm meet dictator in i'm off to meet a dictator in a socialist republic. don't worry about it. >> they'll all be the >> they'll all be in the bullingdon whatsapp group anyway, won't they? he was on holiday. dominican holiday. he was in the dominican republic. which? which he goes to now again to every now and again to decompress being decompress decompress from being decompress from he's in the from whatever he's doing in the uk, about the climate uk, which is about the climate for millions of dollars. yeah, exactly. time off exactly. so you need time off from nick, from that occasion, nick, i imagine it's imagine a terrible business. >> what happened? he just decided on his i'm decided to go on his own. i'm just dominica. just in dominica. >> been there, boris. >> i've been there, boris. >> i've been there, boris. >> all there. we've >> we've all been there. we've all been to one country down in central, america, and central, in south america, and we just fly over. we thought, let's just fly over. we're let's fly to we're on aruba, let's fly to caracas. we're on aruba, let's fly to

caracas banned that one. >> i'm banned from that one. i'll another one. i'll try another one. >> go to that one. >> i'll go to that one. >> i'll go to that one. >> not really to >> it's not really happened to me. was in cornwall on me. i was once in cornwall on holiday, i didn't think holiday, and i didn't think about going to to save anything. >> well, because you love >> well, because you don't love this as i do, this country as much as i do, i have done that. of course i've done you to go see done that. you want to go see someplace i did that what someplace new? i did that what i said in caracas. said was a rube in caracas. that's story. that's an actual true story. with father. gambling. with my father. he was gambling. he had a gambling problem. my dad went to aruba. dad and we went to aruba. >> unexpected link between >> the unexpected link between bofis >> the unexpected link between boris visit boris johnson's venezuela visit and problem. and your dad's gambling problem. well, happen? well, how did it happen? >> has largest >> venezuela has the largest reserves of oil in the world, according kwarteng. according to kwarteng. >> worst way of managing >> and the worst way of managing their economy ever. >> all right, well, >> yes. yeah. all right, well, that story. i say that was that story. i can't say covered, really, talked covered, really, but we talked about some things while the paper was there. so let's do the sunday express. paul labour are cowards crisis. cowards over boat crisis. >> now this is, james cleverly. so labour have been branded as a party of cowards and hypocrites. and this is because james cleverly is saying they're being cynical about the possibility of success, of sending people to

rwanda and the reason he thinks they're so cynical is because they're so cynical is because they're afraid that it's going to be successful, i'm not sure that's exactly what they're afraid of. i think that they think they've got their own solution to their solution solution to this. their solution will routes of passage. will be safe routes of passage. so instead of reducing the numbers of immigration, we'll just get equal amounts of immigration, but sort of less people dying on their way here. and i don't think that solves the problem. so to some respect to some degree, should i say i understand this coward's comment, james cleverly, cleverly, quite clever , cleverly, he's quite clever, hence the name. >> yeah. do you think labour have any kind of plan for immigration of any kind? i'm worried about that. i mean, i mean, cleverly's accusing laboun mean, cleverly's accusing labour. he labour. what does he say? hypocrisy, ambiguity hypocrisy, cynicism, ambiguity and cowardice. isn't that practically starmer's slogan? i mean, they? mean, don't have they? >> labour doesn't have a plan because don't because they don't see personally , i'm guessing i don't personally, i'm guessing i don't think a think they think there's a problem this . problem with this. >> no they don't, they don't think so. >> why do have to come up >> why do they have to come up with a plan? immigration is good and the better. this and more people the better. this

is very similar to what's happening where is very similar to what's harthoseg where is very similar to what's harthose all where is very similar to what's harthose all those where is very similar to what's harthose all those cities, where all those all those cities, sanctuary cities in america, which going discuss which we're going to discuss later, suddenly later, i guess. and suddenly they're, oh, defund the police. and they wake up and and suddenly they wake up and they we need money for they say, we need more money for they say, we need more money for the we as soon as it'll the police. we as soon as it'll be about three years before labour realises there's problem. >> starmer is very much under the control of tony blair and gordon brown. i'd imagine they. i think they come as a pair. they may even live together. i'm not but he this very not sure. but he this is very much a labour problem. labour in the mid 90s started multiculturalism. opened multiculturalism. they opened the gates and said we need to improve our economy by getting as into country as many people into the country as many people into the country as possible. now, 30 years as possible. so now, 30 years later, it's a cultural later, when it's a huge cultural issue, not to do issue, they're not going to do anything because they anything about it because they never it as a problem the never saw it as a problem in the first place. they're going first place. all they're going to you're thinking to do is say you're thinking about this wrong. we need about this wrong. we just need to save poor people from to save those poor people from getting the boats, which no to save those poor people from gett disagrees boats, which no to save those poor people from gett disagrees with.s, which no to save those poor people from gett disagrees with. by/hich no to save those poor people from gett disagrees with. by/hiciway, one disagrees with. by the way, no actively saying even no one is actively saying even here green room, and here in the green room, nick and i in in the green i aren't in the in the green room more kids the room saying more kids die, the better. that come up, right? >> doesn't it? because i don't let to before the

let you speak to me before the show. of course. and just show. yeah, of course. and just for broadcast regulations, show. yeah, of course. and just for brknowst regulations, show. yeah, of course. and just for brknow thatjulations, show. yeah, of course. and just for brknow that starmer, show. yeah, of course. and just for brknow that starmer is in don't know that starmer is in the of they might the control of blair. they might just very good friends just be very good friends who who to who issue leadership manuals to each on each other. so let's finish on this the daily star this shocker in the daily star on sunday. lewis. >> rocky horror show >> yes, the rocky horror show this is about people. they did a survey, guess. i don't know, survey, i guess. i don't know, we don't have the full information do they information boffins do when they start . and they said start boffins. and they said that of three british that one out of three british people change socks people do not change their socks once week for a year. no, you once a week for a year. no, you didn't listen once a week, but 2 million, which is about 1 didn't listen once a week, but 2 million, which is about1 in didn't listen once a week, but 2 million, which is about 1 in 30. don't change their socks for a yeah don't change their socks for a year. and i'm going to say this. you should change your socks. i change my socks every week. but the number one cause of toe fungus is a high carbohydrate diet. there it is . diet. there it is. >> there it is. but i'm surprised. lewis, you're not a sock truther . sorry, i almost sock truther. sorry, i almost got it wrong there. you do believe in socks? just to clarify, actually, i don't believe in socks. >> believe changing socks. >> i believe in changing socks. i you have open toed i believe if you have open toed shoes, wearing shoes, if you stop wearing shoes, if you stop wearing shoes, socks at all. >> for me, eating meat, you'd be

better off thousands of years ago. the reason why. ago. yeah, the reason why. >> reason why we've got foot >> the reason why we've got foot rot is because we wear shoes and socks and we don't. >> we also had to protect our feet. >> and the other, the mainstream media are afraid to say it. yeah. paul, anything on this? >> i mean, i'm just i'm >> well, i mean, i'm just i'm revelling in in the new information would information provided. i would say out there, say to the people out there, are you sarcastic? you being sarcastic? >> no. >> em- 5 lewis, >> lewis. lewis, no, no. >> who are these people that are not socks are not wearing socks that are wearing pair wearing the same pair for a year? no single man. and that shocks so you know, shocks me. yeah. so you know, there are women out here just turning because turning off right now because they're disgusted this. they're so disgusted by this. >> one. mean, i can't >> just no one. i mean, i can't imagine i can't imagine anyone. well, i can there are people i've walking my i've seen walking around my local town. >> i suspect if it was, if >> you i suspect if it was, if it sheets, we could have it was bed sheets, we could have that discussion. but socks, that's that discussion. but socks, tha you haven't met in—laws, >> you haven't met my in—laws, right? >> you haven't met my in—laws, rigisorry . i've got an in—law >> sorry. i've got an in—law joke. there it is. lewis schaffer. that is it for part one. but coming up, a dubious arrest at today's and arrest at today's protest and the crisis in masculinity will be resident be explained by our resident expert, be explained by our resident ex art, be explained by our resident

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welcome back to headliners. i'm nick dixon. still here with paul cox and lewis schaffer. there they are wearing almost matching ties. and the saint louis is mine is mine is by yeager. >> it's made in italy. it's100% >> it's made in italy. it's 100% silk. nice. quite, quite pricey . okay. >> well, when it was when it was get into that. more later. but let's have a quick look at the mail on sunday. and the met police have arrested a man carrying a sign stating that hamas terrorist. that's a hamas a terrorist. that's just a fact, isn't it? sure you fact, isn't it? make sure you don't a sign saying nick don't have a sign saying nick dixon is the uk's best presenter. dixon is the uk's best present saying i've got to, met >> i'm saying i've got to, met police arrest man carrying hamas as a terrorist placard at gaza demo after pro—palestinian protesters turn on him as they march through london. so this is an iranian guy. we've seen him a few times now. his name's nirakar ghorbani, he's 37. and what i'm finding more and more maddening about this weekend

marches is that every single weekend , thousands upon weekend, thousands upon thousands of people chant, chant obscenities , things that people obscenities, things that people find terrifying and really offensive , particularly within offensive, particularly within the jewish community. and the only person that's arrested is the one bloke stood on the periphery holding a sign with the truth on it, which is that hamas a terrorist, and they're not just terrorists, they're terrorists that all these terrorists that took all these hostages and still haven't given some of them back. >> yeah, before everyone >> yeah, and before everyone shouts x and gets us shouts at us on x and gets us off and stuff, the police are very met police to very clear. the met police to say he wasn't arrested say that he wasn't arrested for the he was arrested the placard, so he was arrested for assault. but they for assault. but then they reviewed they reviewed the footage and they de—arrested him. this is a new turn for me. this is a new turn in anarcho every in anarcho tyranny. every citizen arrested citizen is basically arrested and arrest them and then you just arrest them later you can't find a later when you can't find a crime. >> t- e“- t it's like being >> it's like it's like being a virgin had sex. virgin after you've had sex. like became . i don't like doris day became. i don't know, it's an obscure reference, but . but the really old people. but. but the really old people. but it's the it's the police. it's i don't know what the problem is. maybe it's the

police in london because it's london and because it's, it's , london and because it's, it's, it's under the remit of, of sadiq khan and those people. >> i'm going to add some balance here. i think they arrest him for his own safety because, clearly this they should they probably should look after him. i just wish they wouldn't do it in the way that they did. and i wish they were honest about it. i wish our police force could be honest things that honest about the things that they do. if they just said, look, just took guy out look, we just took that guy out of there. the only way we can do it arrest that's the it is to arrest him. that's the only this. but it only way we can do this. but it would open the can of worms and it would a huge problem it would create a huge problem for them. >> e seen w— for them. >> seen that argument >> yeah, i've seen that argument used that's been used used and that's been used against x as but to against me on x as well. but to me lost if you're me you're already lost if you're making argument. the guy making the argument. the one guy who's doing nothing who's showing up doing nothing wrong you wrong with the angry mob, you arrest who's arrest the one guy who's not doing anything for doing anything wrong, but for his own safety. you his own safety. haven't you basically of your society? >> you haven't because you haven't enough policemen haven't put enough policemen on the haven't the beat and you haven't enforced it. everybody knows what is. story what the story is. the story is the two teeth the police that two teeth say two teeth. no, it's not even two tier. no tier. it's only

tiers. >> nice. tiers, only tiers. >> nice. no tiers, only tiers. yeah. soon i just made this yeah. and soon i just made this big thing i'm going to big thing about. i'm going to talk make talk to the police and make sure they blah blah. it they do theirjob, blah blah. it doesn't to have any doesn't seem to have had any impact on this all. and impact on on this at all. and another they took his another thing, they took his placard. not clear. placard. it's not clear. apparently legally, they can even they take even do that. they seem to take his they quite his placard. they were quite rough him. rough with him. >> weird . i'm rough with him. >> weird. i'm trying >> it it's weird. i'm trying to find the word, it is. find the right word, but it is. it's weirder . the whole it's getting weirder. the whole thing like, is this really thing is like, is this really happening? got to happening? you sort of got to check you start touching check things. you start touching things i still i things going, am i still am i alive? yeah. this nonsense i'm watching. actually happening? >> strange state. one >> it's a strange state. one wonders the so—called wonders if the, the so—called regime sympathetic to regime is sort of sympathetic to palestine. or is it, just as you say, a question of they can't possibly police so you have possibly police it, so you have to the one guy that's to take out the one guy that's actually not doing. >> i know is trope, >> i know this is a trope, right? i this is a trope, right? i know this is a trope, but entirely but maybe it's not entirely true. was a group of true. but if that was a group of hooligans, be piling in hooligans, there'd be piling in there with batons. there with the batons. >> white class men. >> the white working class men. yeah, a sunday yeah, let's do a sunday telegraph. and trump telegraph. and would trump really or is it just really leave nato or is it just sort incredibly banter? sort of incredibly edgy banter? louis? i don't think it's edgy

banter. >> it's this is donald trump. europe europe. it could be bad, but it's not. europe must be ready for us to quit, nato diplomats warn, and this is one of those stories. there's so much stories in the british press. it's like somebody told somebody, they told us and everything . we can't believe you everything. we can't believe you can't believe anything you read. but to be true but this happens to be true because i remember donald trump 40 york, where 40 years ago in new york, where i from, i am authentic. and i am from, i am authentic. and he actually we don't he he actually said, we don't want for those people's want to pay for those people's defence. he's totally right . defence. and he's totally right. if i if i have a car if i have if i have a car insurance, if i someday i'm able to afford a car and i have insurance and don't pay my insurance and i don't pay my insurance, i'm not going to expect to pick up my expect them to pick up my insurance if i miss a month or two. they're not going to. >> yeah. i mean, when i said banter, i was of course referring to trump's comment that, know, if they didn't that, you know, if they didn't pay that, you know, if they didn't pay bills, just let pay their bills, he'd just let russia of have at them. russia sort of have at them. then that has worked then again, that has worked because more people then again, that has worked becalbeen more people then again, that has worked becalbeen meeting more people then again, that has worked becalbeen meeting theire people have been meeting their payments, get to the payments, trying to get to the 2% up. you know, 2% that's gone up. so, you know, in worked . so he in a way it's worked. so he might do that. you might do. but

there wider problem, there is this wider problem, paul there is this wider problem, paul. mean, i've seen people paul. i mean, i've seen people like macgregor like colonel douglas macgregor saying the saying basically nato's on the way irrelevant his way out. it's irrelevant in his argument. was britain. france and are basically have argument. was britain. france an think there's any >> i don't think there's any real evidence that he would what he yeah. i don't he what he has. yeah. i don't listen to what you did you listen to what you say. did you say that? >> i did say that. >> i did say that. >> oh, well, whatever it >> oh, well, his whatever it could derangement could be trump derangement syndrome as well. >> people worried. >> but but people are worried. they're trump in they're worried trump comes in and ignores them. 1 in 1 version, just bluffing and ignores them. 1 in 1 veget1, just bluffing and ignores them. 1 in 1 ve get nato just bluffing and ignores them. 1 in 1 ve get nato to just bluffing and ignores them. 1 in 1 ve get nato to people luffing and ignores them. 1 in 1 ve get nato to people lufpay up. to get nato to people to pay up. in another version, america is going kind nato aside going to kind of cast nato aside and drift away from it. and sort of drift away from it. >> can't i mean, the >> you can't blame i mean, the theory behind it. let's just say for minute that was for a minute that trump was actively the actively planning to remove the us couldn't blame us from nato. you couldn't blame them the reasons them for all the reasons that lewis say. i was lewis did say. and i was listening to him. i love lewis,

but the day, if but at the end of the day, if you if you are going to put you are, if you are going to put more and more money into something that gives nothing something that gives you nothing but look, but you essentially just look, we're like the americas, like our daddy. now we do very our sugar daddy. now we do very little and they give us little and they just give us loads money and we look loads of money and we look pretty. >> but let's be very fair when you're saying we britain is actually meeting unlike actually meeting its 2, unlike the at 1.46 and the likes of italy at 1.46 and all sort of shoddy all these sort of shoddy european percent is a next nothing amount, because in america way more america they spend way more money they money and they do and they do rely america and it's been rely on america and it's been pointed out that america , that pointed out that america, that nato is a good thing is it's basically kept people in check. >> it frees the seas. it's part of everything . but, you know, of everything. but, you know, eventually americans are going to get bored of it. like they get bored of everything. >> okay, we're going to >> okay, well, we're going to have up the defence have to step up the defence spending europe, but spending across europe, but where the where are we gonna get the money? that's question. money? that's the question. let's sunday telegraph let's do the sunday telegraph and £0.02 off national and turns out £0.02 off national insurance save and turns out £0.02 off national insltories. save and turns out £0.02 off national insltories. paul. save and turns out £0.02 off national insltories. paul. no, save and turns out £0.02 off national insltories. paul. no, that'save the tories. paul. no, that's what do. what it would do. it. >> just fifth of people think >> just a fifth of people think budget will them better budget will make them better off. most of them are in

off. and most of them are in cognitive decline. there were parts headline i made parts of that headline i made up, if we if you want the up, but if we if you want the real headline, it finished at make off. here's make them better off. now here's the doesn't matter, the thing. it doesn't matter, right? matter who right? it doesn't matter who delivers . i have never delivers a budget. i have never seen a budget in my 44 years where the any opposition party has supported you can be has supported it. you can be offering cancer free children forever handfuls of cash, and the opposition would find a way of attacking it. but that aside, the tories are doomed. it doesn't matter what they offer at this point, they haven't really come up with a cohesive plan, and no one in cabinet now looks as if they to be in. looks as if they want to be in. they're planning exit, they're all planning their exit, but just but the negativity is not just coming labour, it's also coming. >> the tories . the tories are >> the tories. the tories are not moved this because not moved by this budget because the budget isn't the most important that's going on important thing that's going on out . there's a feeling of out there. there's a feeling of malaise country that the malaise in the country that the country taken over and country is being taken over and destroyed, toopi not destroyed, and toopi is not going to solve anything. there's a feeling i'm saying people a feeling i'm saying some people you're absolutely right. >> there's a feeling of doom in the country. economics part

the country. economics is part of all of it. of that. but it's not all of it. only said it would make them only 15% said it would make them more likely to vote conservative. i'm surprised it was even said more than was even 15. half said more than half it would make half said it would make no difference. said difference. a fifth said it would likely. the would make them less likely. the tories to want to lose tories seem to want to lose at this that's theory this point. that's my theory now. they to lose. pass it now. they want to lose. pass it over more over to labour, who are more like of the like them than any of the insurgent parties. keep the whole going. whole two party sham going. that's little theory. that's my little theory. >> better way of losing would >> a better way of losing would have been offering massive slashes though, when it just said yeah, said no income tax from yeah, go out scarface. out like scarface. >> yeah, hello my little >> yeah, say hello to my little budget. yeah. all right, well, let's and a faulty let's do the eye. and a faulty home office it system caused home office it system has caused immigration errors. that's a quote. accidentally? quote. did it accidentally? i don't 1 million people don't know, let 1 million people in. this is faulty. £71 in. lewis, this is faulty. £71 million home office. it system causes immigration errors and leaves staff sobbing. and this is a this is one of those stories. it happens every ten years or five years. i've been here where they just their it systems , they mess up. they hire systems, they mess up. they hire some other country, whether it's the post office, whether it's the post office, whether it's the home the nhs one, this is the home office and it's , it's they've office and it's, it's they've having disruptions and bizarre

glitches. they say technical problems. but the only people that's affecting are foreigners. so screw them . i have been to so screw them. i have been to the croydon office, home office of the immigration people at and no one should have to do that . no one should have to do that. >> even your croydon home office of the immigration people is unofficial embassy, because i don't know what that is. >> whatever, whatever it's called i forgot didn't do any called. i forgot i didn't do any research, definitely not research, almost definitely not called knows who called that. everybody knows who were they know that were watching. they know that there's croydon. there's an office in croydon. >> louis schaefer in >> see, louis schaefer in croydon. he's probably the croydon. he's probably at the home immigration home office of immigration people almost ever. >> the immigration >> it is it's the immigration office. the home office does a lot of things. they're working out of their home. no wonder they're efficient work home. >> t show. home. >> show. proper t show. proper from . >> good show. properjoke from. that's why paid. not very that's why he's paid. not very much, computer much, it's basically computer says no on a massive scale. i mean, what do you think, paul? i do want to get to this next story, but anything because, i mean, you know, for all my mean, look, you know, for all my little there before little rashes out there before i became gammon, became the people's gammon, i was real person.

was a real person. >> i had a job that basically tested this is tested these systems. this is the in the it the biggest cash cow in the it market. you create a system, you say it's going to save the world. you being you build in obsolescence and loads of faults. someone tested and said it's good enough. it it's just about good enough. it goes service and before it's just about good enough. it goezknow service and before it's just about good enough. it goezknow it,;ervice and before it's just about good enough. it goezknow it, the ce and before it's just about good enough. it goezknow it, the samei before it's just about good enough. it goezknow it, the same people you know it, the same people have made faulty system. say have made a faulty system. say we've another system you we've got another system for you and we keep around and we just keep going around their after their system for year after year after a way after year, and it's a great way to make money. >> the advantage it's kept >> the advantage is it's kept people of britain for as people out of britain for as long 21 months while long as 21 months while they wait. least it delays the wait. so at least it delays the whole process whole immigration process a little that's little bit. maybe that's deliberate. i'm not saying that seriously though, it's satire. let's sunday telegraph let's do the sunday telegraph and suddenly worried let's do the sunday telegraph and the suddenly worried let's do the sunday telegraph and the crisissuddenly worried let's do the sunday telegraph and the crisis inidenly worried let's do the sunday telegraph and the crisis in masculinity. d about the crisis in masculinity. i openly i wonder if the left openly despises men for decades as contributed. >> goodness, >> oh my goodness, quelle surprise nick. i the surprise here, nick. i mean the labour party let's do the labour party and let's do the time crisis in masculinity prompts consider men's prompts labour to consider men's health strategy. and this is wes streeting, who is the shadow health minister, and he's saying that labour looking at that labour is looking at introducing health introducing a men's health strategy address the crisis strategy to address the crisis in, in, in masculinity and karlspreis i would say, the karlspreis as i would say, the labour party have supported and

enabled the progressive in insurrection against men. >> nice insurrection . >> nice insurrection. >> nice insurrection. >> there has been an insurrection against men and they've they've supported an enabler. it's not just the labour party but the blob that they support has totally been behind this for decades. if you tell 50% of people born that they're masculinity, the way that they are born and the way they genetically grow is bad, this is what you end up with 20 years later. you end up with a load of men who have huge mental health issues because they have all this testosterone and masculinity that they know they're allowed they're not allowed to use properly. >> and there's mixed >> i know, and there's mixed messages the other messages because the other day it oh, labour up it was, oh, labour trains up influencers toxic influencers to counter the toxic influencers to counter the toxic influence of tate, which influence of andrew tate, which is not really listening is kind of not really listening to because young men to young men because young men happen tate. you've happen to like tate. so you've got properly. got to deal with it properly. and there's also talk of and then there's also talk of the you know, the solution being, you know, they they need men to talk they need they need men to talk about mental about their physical mental health. the way for men health. is that the way for men to or is is it is that

to talk, or is it is it is that the for louis. the solution for men? louis. >> good point. >> well, that's a good point. i think paul complaining about >> well, that's a good point. i thinkhe's’aul complaining about >> well, that's a good point. i thinkhe's becomeiplaining about >> well, that's a good point. i thinkhe's become a.aining about >> well, that's a good point. i thinkhe's become a weaselybout this, he's become a weasely feminist and has been destroyed himself. needs some help. >> he should be out killing animals instead and hunting . animals instead and hunting. >> sure why that's >> i'm not even sure why that's relevant. was brilliant, yeah, >> i'm not even sure why that's r> i'm not even sure why that's r> saying >> i'm saying there has been a political and cultural drive towards anything to do towards damaging anything to do with and part of with masculinity and part of being is part of being being masculine is part of being strong and aggressive. maybe taking , maybe taking the lead, maybe explaining things when people aren't correctly, aren't doing them correctly, whatever it might be. >> all these things mean a lot. >> all these things mean a lot. >> yeah, talking about meat a lot. yeah. fungus. toe fungus. >> people more meat >> maybe if people had more meat that be more masculine. that they'd be more masculine. but point is but the but the point is, is you're talking about kind you're talking about like kind of all of replacement theory that all of replacement theory that all of roles have been of men's roles have been replaced by women. >> there a well, it's tricky

>> there is a well, it's tricky for many. i they'll say for many. i mean, they'll say we're complaining, there's we're complaining, but there's sort there's sort of air culture, there's metoo, to an metoo, which was valid to an extent, overreach. extent, but also overreach. there's feminism, there's sort of feminism, there's correctness there's political correctness itself not really itself is sort of not really something can really work something men can really work within. i don't what do we do as men? i don't think this the men? i don't think this is the answer, but it's interesting that talking that labour are finally talking like they'll like this. maybe they'll finally, get finally, maybe labour will get in these finally, maybe labour will get in of these finally, maybe labour will get in of anti—woke these finally, maybe labour will get in of anti—woke things. ese sort of anti—woke things. i don't really believe it, but let's we've to go. that let's see. we've got to go. that is for part two. but coming is it for part two. but coming up being anti—immigration, up is being anti—immigration, the phrase

welcome back to headliners. let's get into it with the sunday telegraph. and labour has called for the punishment of the awful people who destroyed the lord balfour portrait. this is two non—mental labour stories in a is happening, louis? a row. what is happening, louis? >> we don't know, because >> well, we don't know, because i didn't because i didn't read it because i couldn't. couldn't read it. couldn't. i couldn't read it. i've watching no, i've been watching this. no, normally this i'm normally i read this stuff. i'm not embarrassed about is

not embarrassed about it. is that labour calls for that is that labour calls for punishment for this woman who she's art and she's she's destroying art and she's destroying british history. so i have only one thing to say. death penalty . death penalty. >> do you know what? louis sounds shocking, but i actually said the same the other day. but of course, it's all satirical content. and no, i'm not being satirical. >> that is punishable >> i think that is a punishable offence destroy the offence when you destroy the history of a country, when you destroy art , that is murder. >> yeah. you know what? it would certainly stop it happening again, paul. what do you think? kidding. can want to go more kidding. can you want to go more harsh louis? harsh than louis? >> i don't think i can go more harsh than death. >> could but >> no, you could try, but i wouldn't torture. >> torture? how about spray? >> torture? how about spray? >> spray it in her face >> spray? spray it in her face and cut while you're cutting her? but just. >> just for everybody out there. he's a comedian , i would never he's a comedian, i would never do it. and i don't think it should be done. >> comedians don't do things. >> comedians don't do things. >> no, we just hope somebody else does. >> am. i am equally as >> but i am. i am equally as angered. i have probably angered. i have a i'm probably a more moderate response to it. i

try write a tweet about this try to write a tweet about this earlier, but it was just a diatribe. in the end, it was just pure anger. i was like, you know, i don't know what to say. i don't know how to stop. what i want say to them is, i almost want to say to them is, i almost want to say to them is, i almost want to say to them is, i almost want to teleport them through to the next ten, maybe their the next ten, maybe into their 30s say, do you not 30s and 40 and say, do you not see how ridiculous this is, how poorly behaved this is? i sound like, what's the people's game? and obviously. but she talks about the girl. >> yeah, just i mean, it isn't the girl problem. it is society's problem. you want to shake, you want to shake the british people and say, wake up british people and say, wake up british people. >> and probably quite a lot of people in the labour party, even though they're complaining about it here, probably agree with what she did. i mean, they're pro—palestine, right? i mean, i can't it officially, but can't say it officially, but that'd my although, that'd be my guess. although, louis, it to you louis, this might sell it to you a bit. did you know that a little bit. did you know that lord was favour lord balfour was in favour of women gaining degrees? so does that mind slightly that change your mind slightly to deserve to be. >> it's just it's just >> well, it's just it's just there's a saying which is what goes comes around. yeah,

goes around. comes around. yeah, yeah. >> outrageous. all right. anything i mean, anything else on that? i mean, yeah, it's i think everyone's agreed is curating also it's these rich people have had this designer on. it's completely designer bag on. it's completely mental. brought mental. and then they're brought casting this the clock. casting this round the clock. >> i've seen a million different images. it should not be done . images. it should not be done. they should broadcast her being. i'm sorry. it sounds negative for me to recommend. i don't know what i'm saying. it's football. >> hooliganism for posh kids is what it is. it's their outlet, they think. but they're being told by their own, by the people who commentate on this are also from the same class as they are. so told there's so they're being told there's probably it . yeah, probably some value in it. yeah, it's value in whatsoever. it's no value in it whatsoever. >> don't seem to >> and cambridge don't seem to have done it either. have done much about it either. university cambridge, university of cambridge, everyone seems to be allowing it. probably cheering it >> they're probably cheering it on. let her in. on. they probably let her in. >> shocking. country. >> yeah, shocking. this country. let's independent is let's do the independent and is having at immigrants. the having a pop at immigrants. the new rock poll. new punk rock poll. >> there we got a >> well there we finally got a proper anti—establishment person. pistol person. so former sex pistol john blames immigration john lydon blames immigration for division in the uk. now he's on a tour at the moment and he

was speaking to andrew marr on his lbc show this thursday. and lydon most of his lydon said that most of his forthcoming tour is taking place in seaside he and he's in seaside towns and he and he's and in which, he claimed, have now become rundown because he was saying, look, when he grew up, he went to these places. they were wonderful working class people, wonderful places to changed. the to go. it's now changed. the culture's been demolished and it's over for britain. and the fascinating thing about this for me is there'll be some people out there who say, god, john, john lydon's changed and he used to be anti—establishment , but to be anti—establishment, but what they don't realise is they have become the establishment . have become the establishment. john lydon has never changed his position. lydon has been position. john lydon has been straight down the middle of the wicket his life. you have wicket all of his life. you have to him. he's completely to admire him. he's completely anti—establishment to admire him. he's completely anti—establish|thet to admire him. he's completely anti—establish|the people is saying here to the people is you've changed, not me, mate, you've changed, not me, mate, you've changed. >> yeah. like morrissey , he >> yeah. much like morrissey, he now attacked because now gets attacked because they've sort pro they've stuck to a sort of pro british working class attitude. whereas left's become whereas once the left's become in , they're like, oh, how in power, they're like, oh, how dare you? really? yeah, he's dare you? but really? yeah, he's been anti—establishment, pro working time.

working class the whole time. and thing that was and there was one thing that was called , which was a called hypocrisy, which was a bit silly, which people bit silly, which was people saying, he's the he's saying, oh, but he's the he's the of irish immigrants. the child of irish immigrants. but who's not but anyone who's not being disingenuous knows there's a huge difference between irish immigrants versus people from a completely different culture who are going are obviously not going to integrate mean, it's integrate as well. i mean, it's just an obvious statement . we just an obvious statement. we all pretend we're idiots just an obvious statement. we alwe pretend we're idiots just an obvious statement. we alwe don't pretend we're idiots just an obvious statement. we alwe don't think1d we're idiots just an obvious statement. we alwe don't think that. 're idiots just an obvious statement. we alwe don't think that. 're idi do if we don't think that. what do you thinki if we don't think that. what do you think i think paul is right >> i think i think paul is right because saying is because what he's saying is shocking to people. he's saying i it and it's i don't like it and it's shocking to people. i mean, i mean, the he was asked by andrew marr who was who was i think he's a vegan and he had a stroke and he has things come back to meet again. >> do we get there some sort of knocking wood that i'm okay. >> i don't want to wish anybody any harm except for the last thing. but. >> but he's attacked the god of multiculturalism. that's what you're allowed but he you're not allowed to do. but he has resolutely. it's the has been resolutely. it's the emperor's clothes. >> one. the. he >> he's the one. he's the. he has always been the person in the he's not the crowd going. he's not wearing can nobody the crowd going. he's not wearand can nobody the crowd going. he's not wearand everyone'sin nobody the crowd going. he's not wearand everyone's going. dy the crowd going. he's not wearand everyone's going. he's see? and everyone's going. he's wearing absolutely wonderful

garments. yeah >> and always an >> and he's always an interesting he also had interesting work. he also had pubuc interesting work. he also had public after the public image limited after the sex so he's always been sex pistols. so he's always been very interesting. we very smart and interesting. we like let's do like john lydon here. let's do this. there's got to this. although there's got to be some of balance. lewis some sort of balance. so lewis doesn't sunday doesn't let's do the sunday telegraph love telegraph i actually do i love john. you've the john. oh, you've ruined the balance. do this. do balance. let's do this. let's do the telegraph and the sunday telegraph and university been told university staff have been told not classes as ladies not to address classes as ladies and just case and gentlemen, just in case there's in the who there's anyone in the room who identifies as annoying lewis. >> the >> yes, well, this is the university of westminster, and it staff told it says university staff told not to address. and it's this is the centre for social research, the centre for social research, the university of westminster. i'm quite where i'm not quite sure where it's i don't want to make fun of it as being a university because. because even universities because even the universities are know, like are just trash, you know, like cambridge . so but this cambridge or oxford. so but this one definitely is. and they say don't unnecessary gendered don't use unnecessary gendered language, which is like ladies. and as you know, i'm selling cups. and one of the one of my cups. and one of the one of my cups says says , ladies, any cups says says, ladies, any takers? not this one, not this one. but, you know, i gave. did

i give you a cup? >> you gave me one. >> you gave me one. >> you gave me one. >> and it's available at my merch shop. so i'm going to have to i'm get it while it lasts. okay. >> and back to the actual story that we love your cups, so this was this was about this was the university of westminster's centre for social justice research, already research, which is already a nonsense 37 page nonsense department. 37 page document. imagine that page turner all about. it was it turner all about. and it was it was non—binary, was three non—binary, genderqueer academics , lo and genderqueer academics, lo and behold, who came up with this nonsense that you're allowed nonsense that you're not allowed to gentlemen, i to say, ladies and gentlemen, i mean, i mean, we talk mean, paul, i mean, we talk about lot. eric kaufman, about this a lot. eric kaufman, who's great guy, has, he's who's a great guy, has, he's now a professor politics a professor of politics at university buckingham, says university of buckingham, says this how the this directive shows how the ideology socialism, ideology of cultural socialism, which and which seeks equal outcomes and emotional protection emotional harm protection above truth and freedom, is corrupting the based the truth. mission. truth based mission university. mission of the university. >> yeah, i mean, these these 37 page panthers, they read like manifestos, they? of manifestos, don't they? sort of manifesto, scribbled in manifesto, you see, scribbled in excrement on public toilet walls. academia has been walls. but academia has been captured by this madness for years . there's no way that years. there's no way that anyone within this story could recognise any of it's madness. it wouldn't make sense to them.

it'd be like saying that wasn't red or louis isn't mad. whatever it whatever, it is obvious to the rest of us. yes, we've got social justice research department. >> the whole premise of social justice highly contentious justice is highly contentious leftist anyway, so rogers. >> they're demanding people >> but they're demanding people stand up and give their pronouns, of which there are 50 million of them. it just reminds me of prison people have just come. they've just boiled people down numbers . down to numbers. >> do you know what? speaking of that, if someone asked me to state pronouns, go state my pronouns, i would go to prison rather than do that. don't test on but i think don't test me on it. but i think i probably would. let's do the mail on and cities like mail on sunday, and cities like san rethinking san francisco are rethinking their drugs, crime, violence their pro drugs, crime, violence and paul their pro drugs, crime, violence and paul. yeah and chaos policies. paul. yeah >> beginning the >> is this the beginning of the end america's madness ? end for america's woke madness? question mark the answer is no, but do story anyway . but let's do the story anyway. democratic cities, democrat cities back cities are rolling back progressive policies. and this is in san francisco and portland, which are the maddest places on earth. and leaders are reversing liberal drug policies. so this is in the daily mail, i should hasten to add, reversing

drug policies after it led to a sharp rise in addiction and deaths by overdose. there was no real statistics to, i should say, to actually prove that. however, i think the bigger picture here is that the policy shift is moving towards a more moderate democrat party because they know they've let the fringe loonies in and these fringe loonies in and these fringe loonies have taken over whole cities and are setting the direction for these cities. and they know eventually that if they know eventually that if they want to retain power, they're going to to change. they're going to have to change. >> haven't let the fringe >> they haven't let the fringe loonies not the whole loonies in. it's not the whole country is fringe on both sides. there's no there's no moderate . there's no there's no moderate. there's no there's no moderate. there's no there's no moderate. there's no room for mod. there's two silos. you're either in one side or the other. silo and this, a sign that from this, this is a sign that from what i've heard from my friends in new york, one friend, my one friend who still speaks to me in new he says to me that new york, he says to me that they're running scared that the democrats are running scared that people in york city are that people in new york city are fed with them. well, yeah. fed up with them. well, yeah. >> let's scare i mean scare for a few reasons. one, because this is of because let's

is out of hand. because let's face reality is right wing face it, reality is right wing and you try and leftist and when you try and do leftist policies, eventually have policies, eventually you have chaos , crime, homelessness. chaos, crime, homelessness. it's just they've gone just how it is. and they've gone up for too long up against reality for too long now. not working. are now. it's not working. 60% are voting you to change voting to, you know, to change these policies, 63, 60, things like and so and the other like that. and so and the other way they're scared is you're right, is that the democrats are worried they don't have worried because they don't have enough to vote for them. enough people to vote for them. so having in so they're having to bring in loads of illegal immigrants to vote. a whole vote. but that's a whole other topic, of it's related topic, kind of it's a related topic. but yeah, it's interesting, finally, interesting, isn't it? finally, they've just come up against reality said, we reality and people have said, we don't to live like this. don't want to live like this. you've all the you've got and they do all the policies. be called policies. it would be called racist or republican racist if trump or republican did them and up doing did them and they end up doing them is cracking them anyway, which is cracking down kind thing. down on this kind of thing. >> a saying, was >> there's a saying, which was what said, i forgot what you said, which i forgot what you said, which i forgot what the saying is, but i think the involves the saying involves you can't fight hits you fight reality. reality hits you in you can deny in the face. yeah, you can deny it want you can call it all you want to. you can call you, you can call it boy or girl, whatever. but eventually you're be in a bathroom you're going to be in a bathroom with you're going to be in a bathroom witieveryone plan until >> everyone has a plan until they punched they get punched in the face that for part

welcome back to the final section of headliners. let's get into it with the sunday telegraph and the napoleonic wars have been labelled part of queer history. but the bottom line is we still won. lewis.

yes. >> good news that we did win. i guess we won. i don't know which ones. these. this is like, i guess this is you didn't but this yeah i think well we this is 18. yeah i think well we did beat the english did win. we beat the english dunng did win. we beat the english during war of 1812, which during the war of 1812, which i think we and the obesity war. >> you're winning that anyway napoleon. >> it was labelled as part of queer history. thank you. >> i'm going to get through with. there any rush? you're with. is there any rush? you're always anyway, this always worried. anyway, so this is this is very is company. this is very versilia, is a diversity versilia, which is a diversity recruiter £20,000 yearly recruiter at a £20,000 yearly contract the dcms, which is contract with the dcms, which is the department of culture, media and sports. they're saying that queer has been going on queer history has been going on for 300 years. i don't really understand what queer history is , but let's face it, some of those were amazing . those uniforms were amazing. >> and yeah, they did. they brought them back in the 80s. >> like, here's a funny one. sorry about that. this toby young always points this out on our podcast, the weekly sceptic. well him every week. well i work with him every week. it's a name, they it's barely a name, but they keep wanting to of change keep wanting to sort of change the say like, look, it the past and say like, look, it was know, ethnic was always, you know, ethnic diversity in england forever. and there and and queer people were there and

there soldiers who there were trans soldiers who were there for thousands of years. same they years. at the same time, they want overturn everything and want to overturn everything and call imperialism call it imperialism and colonialism and get rid of it. it's like, hang on, if it was all queer history, why are you not of not proud of it? >> that's a brilliant idea. >> that's a brilliant idea. >> they've to get their >> they've got to get their story straight. >> they've got to get their story don'tjht. the people >> i don't think the people out there enough, nick. >> e’- w thank you. i stole >> honestly. thank you. i stole that from toby. he's stolen that from toby. but he's stolen enough paul. any take enough from me. paul. any take on no, i totally on this? well, no, i totally agree. >> mean, just we were just >> i mean, just we were just imagining talking about imagining we were talking about these because these stories beforehand because there's goes there's quite a lot of prep goes into despite what see, into this, despite what you see, and lewis were sort of and ed lewis and i were sort of thinking, do they workshop thinking, how do they workshop these because they create these stuff? because they create these stuff? because they create these and these these departments and these departments objectives. and these departments and these dejpeoplelts objectives. and these departments and these dejpeoplelts t0)jectives. and these departments and these dejpeoplelts t0)jectives.sit|d so people have to literally sit around and go, how can around in rooms and go, how can we make the napoleonic wars gay or , you know, where can we or, you know, where can we squeeze transgender person squeeze in a transgender person in, you know, to world war ii, whatever it might be, this is people's actual jobs to do this. and i'm sure nobody's ever denying it. like, no one's saying that. nobody in 1800, all everybody in in 1800 was

straight. nobody is saying that. but the idea that. yes, yes, well, the problem is, if you were gay, you didn't last very long. >> yeah. your legacy wouldn't be here. we wouldn't have reproduced. right? am i right? >> but nobody at the same point is saying that's that's how it should now. okay we've got to should be now. okay we've got to move on. >> let's the observer. and >> let's do the observer. and banksy forced to reveal banksy might be forced to reveal his just years his true identity just 20 years after anyone cared. lewis >> yes, is banksy. this is >> yes, this is banksy. this is that illegal. wow this that guy's illegal. wow this banksy is guy creates banksy is the guy who creates the wall that the things on the wall that people think are valuable, quite interesting. and so these two dudes, they bought thing dudes, they bought a thing called monkey queen and they paid £35,000. and so they sent it in to banksy's company to have it verified. and, banksy has been delaying getting it back, getting back to them. but it's all imaginary because we don't know if it is a banksy work. we don't know if that company that supposedly owned by banksy is banksy's company, or if it can't be verified . the if it can't be verified. the truth is, is the guy wasted

their his money by buying something that he didn't know was who produced it. he couldn't get it verified. the truth is, is that i am the number one verifier of banksy goods. that is true, but apparently the one time he said his name was, his name was banks and he said, yeah, it's robbie, isn't he just making a joke, robbing banks or something rob well, something like that? rob well, that's an old joke. yeah. the second i mean second part. i don't mean to interrupt should be interrupt you, but should be able some point. able to speak at some point. >> go man, because no >> no. go on, man, because no one's speaking is. >> point there's not an >> the point is, there's not an inch truth in this guardian inch of truth in this guardian article.one ever spoke to banksy. >> no one ever spoke to banksy. it'll denied if they find out it'll be denied if they find out who it could be who banksy is. it could be denied. is could be denied. everything is could be denied. everything is could be denied. banksy dies denied. i hope banksy dies without a single penny because he cant without a single penny because he can't trade lots he can't. they can't trade lots more . more death. >> shocking. do you have anything to crack on? anything you want to crack on? well, idea. well, the idea. >> that he >> the idea that, is that he might private school kid might be some private school kid . and if banksy turns out to be another trust fund kid who's just rebelling against mummy and daddy, then it's going to destroy career . he just destroy his career. he just becomes rich kid with

becomes a rich kid with a stencil kid. >> but loses the mystique >> oh, but loses the mystique that on. that we've got to move on. >> let's see the observer. and good for dark matter. truth good news for dark matter. truth as controversial new >> yeah, controversial new theory rules out need theory of gravity rules out need for matter . where on earth for dark matter. where on earth is stephen allen when you need him? he is available. allen. well, okay. let's you do a former science, louis. but steve does like the real stuff. so proponents of a radical new theory of gravity in which space time is wobbly, nick say their approach could render the elusive substance obsolete, the elusive substance obsolete, the elusive substance obsolete, the elusive substance being dark matter, which nobody's ever proven. the real existence of. okay >> sorry, steve, we've got one minute. you want to do this, louis, or the next, i just answer him. >> go on then and say the answer is velikovsky. oh. not again. yeah. again. everything yeah. it's again. everything is velikovsky. to velikovsky. you can't listen to a people a physicist. there are people who and who think they're stupid, and they prove to the world they want to prove to the world that intelligent by making that there intelligent by making up cazarre, as we up this, this cazarre, as we would in america, in new would call it in america, in new york, that there's no york, is that is that there's no such as anything to do such thing as anything to do with black space, black holes, dark this and dark that.

>> okay, we got 30s to do this last story, this conflict, we're heanng last story, this conflict, we're hearing so much about these days. it's wedding photographers versus vicars louis in 20s. >> well, they're they're fighting other because once fighting each other because once one person, it's their home. it's their church, and the it's their their church, and the other person's an invader. what do you take pictures , 16 seconds do you take pictures, 16 seconds on poll because. on this poll because. >> and churches have essentially become props in people's weddings . now people will, you weddings. now people will, you know, get married in churches, but for not religious reasons, because it's good for instagram. right? and vicars are now, you know, trying to defend the know, just trying to defend the okay, it's the sacred versus the secular. >> that's how i'm going to sum it up. thanks guys. the show's pretty much over. let's have a quick at sunday's front quick look at sunday's front pages. so the mail on sunday has diana's brother, was diana's brother, how i was sexually abused at just 11 by school matron. shocking story. the sunday times johnson flew for secret talks with autocrat. we discussed that earlier. that was in venezuela. the was maduro in venezuela. the observer legal fears observer revealed legal fears over new gove definition of extremism. the sunday express

labour are cowards over boat crisis that was james cleverly saying that the sunday mirror brianna ghey legacy starts in school. and finally the daily star sunday the rocky horror show, which was about socks. that's it for tonight's show. thanks to paul and louis headliners, is back tomorrow at 11 pm. if you're watching at 5 am. then stay for a.m. then stay tuned for breakfast. but for it's breakfast. but for now, it's good night. morning and god good night. good morning and god bless velikovsky. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers , sponsors of boxt boilers, sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello there. welcome to your latest gb news weather from the met office. as we move into sunday, it remains cloudy and damp across many areas and we keep that keen easterly breeze too. and that's thanks to this area of low pressure. just sat to south of the uk, feeding to the south of the uk, feeding in of outbreaks of in areas of cloud outbreaks of rain, the tight isobars indicating that brisk easterly wind there too for the rest of saturday into the early hours of sunday it remains cloudy.

further outbreaks of rain, which could be heavy at times across parts of england and wales and then pushes northwards as we move through towards the end of the night, temperatures generally above freezing generally staying above freezing for the vast majority of us due to the cloud and the outbreaks of rain. so for most, it's a cloudy , damp start to sunday cloudy, damp start to sunday morning. there could be a few glimmers of sunshine across central southern of central southern parts of england. on into parts of england. later on into parts of wales, but for most of us it will be cloudy , further will be cloudy, further outbreaks of rain at times and nofice outbreaks of rain at times and notice the wind still coming in off the north sea. so eastern coasts, particularly chilly for the time of year. best of the temperatures towards the west and double and southwest, reaching double figures spells figures in any brighter spells into monday. another cloudy day, the wind still driving in outbreaks of rain and low cloud from the north. see the best of any brighter spells will be across western areas, but even here it will remain on the cloudy side and it remains cloudy side and it remains cloudy right through much of the week. largely dry though there will be some light rain and the winds will generally start to

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