gb news. >> d0 gb news. >> do we have two tier policing? because given the way those demonstrations on saturday were policed, i'm really worried that we're pandering to, frankly, those that back terrorism . and those that back terrorism. and today, big day politically. lee anderson leaves the conservatives and joins reform. gb news chris hope joins me. i'm going to ask, does that mean the red wall has now all but gone? and the most extraordinary controversy over the princess kate photographs of her on mother's day with her kids, accusations they were doctored and i'm not sure what to make of it. tom bower may be knows the answer, but before all of that, let's get the news with tatiana

sanchez. >> nigel. thank you. the top stories from the gb newsroom. lee anderson says he would still have defected to the reform uk party, even if he hadn't been suspended from the conservatives. he became the party's first mp this morning after he lost the tory whip for claiming that islamists had got control of the mayor of london. as recently as january, mr anderson said it was not a proper political party. he now says reform will allow him to speak out on behalf of millions . speak out on behalf of millions. party leader richard tice says reform would aim to build a red wall in traditionally conservative constituencies . conservative constituencies. >> elated to announce that i have found that champion of the red wall for reform uk . he's red wall for reform uk. he's also, coincidentally going to be reform uk's first member of parliament in the house of commons. he is, of course , a commons. he is, of course, a person of great integrity, no

nonsense and is the member of parliament in the county of nottinghamshire for ashfield. please welcome mr lee anderson . please welcome mr lee anderson. >> in other news, the government has pledged over £117 million to safeguard mosques , muslim safeguard mosques, muslim schools and community centres over the next four years. the funding, unveiled today , follows funding, unveiled today, follows the prime minister's promise to allocate more than £70 million to protect jewish communities sites. the government condemned a recent rise in reported anti—muslim and anti—jewish hatred. ministers say they expect the police to fully investigate all hate crimes . investigate all hate crimes. donald trump will not give any money to ukraine if he wins the election in november. that's according to the hungarian prime minister. viktor orban met his longtime ally in florida on friday. he said the former president's claim that the war would end within 24 hours of his re—election is true because, he

said it was clear ukraine couldn't win without us support. leaders across the european union are concerned, though, that a trump presidency could lead to an escalation in the conflict . the princess of wales conflict. the princess of wales has apologised for an altered family. photo released by kensington palace . posting to kensington palace. posting to social media, she admitted that like many amateur photographers, she occasionally experiments with editing , adding she was with editing, adding she was sorry for any confusion. it caused the mother's day image taken by the prince of wales was withdrawn by various global photo agencies after suspicious number of edits may have been made , and the queen has joined made, and the queen has joined the prince of wales at westminster abbey for today's commonwealth day service. there among the senior royals who've been gathering for this year's event, which draws on the theme of resilience against a backdrop of resilience against a backdrop of health worries in the family. though he misses today's service, the king reaffirmed his commitment to the 56 member countries .

countries. >> as i've said before, the commonwealth is like the wiring of a house and its people are energy and our ideas are the current that runs through those wires together and individually. we are strengthened by sharing perspectives and experiences. my belief in our shared endeavours and in the potential of our people remains a sure and strong as it has ever been . as it has ever been. >> for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen. or you can go to gb news common alerts. now it's back to . nigel. alerts. now it's back to. nigel. >> another saturday and yet another march in central london. huge numbers of people once again turning out and extraordinary that we've had all this talk over the course of the

last few days. michael gove, keen to appoint a new tsar to deal with islamic phobia because that it seems to be the major problem as far as the government's concerned. much talk about prejudice against muslims and yet almost no talk in westminster about prejudice going the other way . i met going the other way. i met people over the weekend saying, well, if they want to protect the muslim community, what about us? who is going to protect us? well, from that we get precious little . just one of the chants little. just one of the chants that was available for those who care to listen on the london streets this week was one about yemen. just watch these scenes ship to ship around yemen . ship to ship around yemen. >> yemen too rough for you from seven over ship around guys. >> you know what that reference is? the yemen reference . is? the yemen reference. >> i'm listening to my earpiece. sorry the yemen reference.

>> what that is to the houthis proscribed terror . proscribed terror. >> i'm listening to my earpiece. sorry, you didn't hear anything. >> they're still doing it now. >> they're still doing it now. >> been recorded the >> it's all been recorded by the police monitor. >> okay, well, fine. thanks. thanks for your help . thanks for your help. >> well, perfectly clear. what was happening there? there we had the mob in the street effectively supporting the houthis, an organisation who are a terrorist organisation proscribed in america. not yet here, for reasons i don't quite understand . and they're saying, understand. and they're saying, please turn more ships around . please turn more ships around. that means send more rockets, send more missiles, kill more merchant seamen. and yet old bill just conquered efan, as if to say nothing to do with us, governor. it's all too difficult. but now put the boot on the other foot and have a look at the case of niyak ghorbani. now he is an iranian, an iranian dissident, very against the islamist, you know, regime that has been there for

the last 40 years. and he was out on the london streets holding up a sign. yes, i accept that. it may well have been provocative to many of the marchers, but the sign simply said hamas are terrorists. and yes, they are , because they are yes, they are, because they are prescribed by the british government. they are recognised as a terrorist organisation. and yet for his trouble of standing up with a sign saying something that was actually factually correct, he found himself well, of course, to begin with, abused by many of the marchers. but then he knew he get that, but then he knew he get that, but then pounced upon by up to half a dozen police officers, up to half a dozen police officers wrestled him to the ground, and he was arrested. yep. arrested for holding up a sign that told the truth and some of these scenes are really quite extraordinary . in fact, i scenes are really quite extraordinary. in fact, i find it hard to believe this is even

happening in a country that is our own. but that is what is going on. yes, it was provocative. i accept that , i provocative. i accept that, i get that, but for the police to ignore chance encouraging the houthis to send missiles against merchant vessels and this guy gets, gets literally pushed to the ground by the police and arrested. now he was later on de—arrested now in mitigation , de—arrested now in mitigation, there was a post put up on x formerly twitter , a community formerly twitter, a community posting which said a video has been posted alleging officers arrested a man for having an anti hamas placard. this isn't accurate, he was arrested after an altercation was ongoing and officers intervened to prevent a breach of the peace. he was arrested for assault. well, one man against 200,000. maybe he was officers then fully reviewed the footage and he was later de—arrested . the arrest was not de—arrested. the arrest was not made in relation to the placard.

well, you can believe what you want to believe, but have a look . have a listen to this interview that was done by an undercover journalist with gorban shortly afterwards. >> why have you been arrested? just because i write it down? >> hamas is terrorists organisation. that's it, that's it. what did it? >> what did it say on your sign? what did it say on your sign ? what did it say on your sign? >> hamas is terrorist uk law , uk >> hamas is terrorist uk law, uk put the hamas terrorist organisation . on march 2001 and organisation. on march 2001 and they arrested me because of that i >> -- >> that's it. they've arrested you because of the sign? exactly >> well, i've given you all sides of the argument. there including a community note. but let me ask you , do you think we let me ask you, do you think we now have two tier policing in this country? because you know what i do, and with every week that goes by, i fear it gets worse. do we have two tier

policing? your thoughts please to farage at gb news. com well i'm joined by chris phillips , i'm joined by chris phillips, former detective chief inspector of the metropolitan police and head of the national counter terrorism security office . terrorism security office. chris, i am the least not anti—police person you could ever meet . and you know that ever meet. and you know that we've known each other for years. i want the police to do theirjob and do it well . how theirjob and do it well. how can i look at these events from last saturday at what has been going on ever since october the 7th, when this began and not think that the met have twisted priorities ? priorities? >> it's a very interesting one, nigel. and what i'd say is, i think you need to look at just talking about this weekend. the two instances separate. first, you have probably officers that should have done much more than they did to deal with the chants that were ongoing. and i'm surprised they didn't because i think there's a need to deal more with those. they cocked a

deafen. you saw it. yeah. and i agree that there's been too much of that. and i think listen, the legislation is in place and they should be should dealing with should be should be dealing with it. not easy, though, go it. it's not easy, though, to go into crowds and arrest people. let's be quite honest. let's let's be quite honest. i've crowds. i've dealt with many crowds. i've dealt with many crowds. i've order i've been in public order situations years, but situations over the years, but but let me deal with the but just let me deal with the other incident. this gentleman, it complete social media it was a complete social media stitch up. he's got his friend photographing him, taking the video. stands in the middle video. he stands in the middle of a crowd with a placard that he knows will cause some offence, and the police won't have seen what the what the what the camera person was looking because i think the police were behind him. they stepped in to deal with the breach of the peace assault. peace and assault. >> so the truth causes offence? >> well, no, you're right, it shouldn't do. but let me let me give you an example that is probably similar. give you an example that is probably similar . and i've seen probably similar. and i've seen this many times, a chelsea supporter makes its way into the tottenham end and starts shouting, he's a chelsea fan who gets arrested. it's not the 5000

tottenham fans that are standing there. it's the chelsea fan that has to be taken out and dealt with. you know, if you put yourself in a position where you're going to cause a breach of peace, now i know that of the peace, now i know that that wasn't, you know, an inflammatory statement. it shouldn't course, if shouldn't be. but of course, if you yourself into the you put yourself into the position where you are position often where you are going cause some harm and going to cause some harm and you're going to cause a disorderly situation, the police's job as peace officers is to go in to remove that person out. now, they arrested him for assault or breach of the peace or whatever, reviewed the, reviewed cameras and he was reviewed the cameras and he was released. and i think funny that. yeah, i mean, look, but i think it was a deliberate stitch. >> chris i okay, how do you get famous? >> nigel. you get famous by putting yourself on the social media. days. well, what media. these days. well, what would all the stations i know about all the stations will come in and watch it. >> i know said twice in my >> i know i said twice in my talking that it was a deliberate, wilful, provocative act. >> and i accept that with his cameraman standing right opposite. >> no, i no, no, i get all of that. >> no, i no, no, i get all of that . and it's very tough for

that. and it's very tough for the police. it didn't need to arrest him , did they. arrest him, did they. >> well yes. i mean you do need to arrest people to take them out of the dangerous situation to some extent. >> just have a word >> well, they just have a word with as come with me. with them as they come with me. >> like that. let >> it never works like that. let me you, in public order me tell you, in public order situations, works like situations, it never works like that. but. but yes. listen, it's very difficult policing public order they order situations. i think they were out were right to take him out because would have been because there would have been a breach of the peace. i'm sure over course of the next 20 over the course of the next 20 minutes or so, he was deliberately doing that to get himself himself himself attention, get himself fame programmes this, fame on programmes like this, and do that. and and he's managed to do that. and i we need to just give the i think we need to just give the police a little bit of a leeway here. public order is not easy, and when you're with and when you're dealing with thousands i get that. and when you're dealing with tho and ds i get that. and when you're dealing with tho and the i get that. and when you're dealing with tho and the police i get that. and when you're dealing with tho and the police are get that. >> and the police are outnumbered and clearly they're scared outnumbered and clearly they're sca i�*d they are. and i think >> i think they are. and i think we have listen, i over we have got listen, i think over the years there the last couple of years there has a lack of real positive has been a lack of real positive policing. and i think there's a number reasons that. number of reasons for that. i think one, these days are think one, police these days are very in service. we've got very young in service. we've got the vast majority because of theresa may's and david

cameron's work, have managed to the experience . people have the experience. people have experience of all gone. we've got a load young police got a load of young police officers there, they're officers out there, and they're quite use the powers quite scared to use the powers and they're scared to use their powers because they fear what's going to happen to them if they do use them, because the same social will be getting social media will be getting these officers suspended these police officers suspended and taking the police officers to court. and we've got we've got officers waiting to go got officers now waiting to go to because because of to court because because of things they've use things that they've tried to use their powers. >> i take your argument, chris phillips, your argument phillips, i take your argument that was the deliberately that it was the deliberately wilful, act, even wilful, provocative act, even though it was lawful. right. though it was lawful. all right. let accept that . however, you let me accept that. however, you mentioned the police should have done , but the chance on done more, but the chance on houthi missiles. what i cannot believe is a couple of wednesdays back, three wednesdays back, three wednesdays back, three wednesdays back, we had projected onto the elizabeth tower beneath big ben from the river to the sea, a wilful rageous genocide . not a single rageous genocide. not a single arrest. yeah, not one single

arrest. yeah, not one single arrest. where the hell is sir mark rowley and the met in this? well i totally agree. >> and i think there's a risk averse culture within the met now right from the middle ranking higher ranking, but also at the base level where officers are really scared to use their powers at the, at the, you know, at the risk of being called a racist, quite simply. and i think we've seen the same in the schools. you know, we've still got a teacher in batley who's in hiding because because of actually doing his job properly. and definitely an issue and there is definitely an issue throughout society. and that's permeated into who runs the met. >> is it sir mark rowley or is it sadiq khan? >> i think it's absolutely sir mark rowley, but of course he he works for mayor khan and it's as simple as that . and it's a very simple as that. and it's a very difficult call. i mean, each you know, for, for hundreds of years now we've had police officers, constable's able their constable's able to make their own decisions. i was own decisions. if i was a constable on the streets and i saw that incident taking place

in front of me, i hadn't seen the sign because i was behind them. i would have probably made them. i would have probably made the same decision as the officers did over the weekend. but that doesn't mean to say in you know, in cold light of you know, in the cold light of day, when you look all the day, when you look at all the evidence look at what's evidence and look at what's happened, that that actually happened, that that was actually the decision. let's the right decision. but let's cut some to the police cut some slack to the police officers. you've make officers. you've got to make very decisions. very quick decisions. and i think mistakes have been think many mistakes have been made, in the made, particularly in the policing of these demonstrations. but i think saturday deliberate effort saturday was a deliberate effort to wind up the police and get some fame that person . and some fame for that person. and he's to do it. he's managed to do it. >> chris phillips, as ever, i respect point of view. respect your point of view. i understand your point, mr understand your point, about mr corbyn, but i don't get your point fully about why we just allow pro—terrorist slogans to be chanted on britain's streets. as ever. thank you. thank you for coming on the programme in a moment. well, a big political moment. well, a big political moment . the former deputy moment. the former deputy chairman of the conservative party, lee anderson, joins reform. i'll be joined in a moment by christopher gb news, political editor. he will tell

us all and i will not say anything. i won't even dare comment . otherwise ofcom will be comment. otherwise ofcom will be given more ammunition to close down this programme

he was -- he was a miner. he was a labour activist and supporter. he was even an agent for a labour mp up in his home constituency in north nottinghamshire . but then north nottinghamshire. but then lee anderson became a conservative in 2019. and he's been pretty high profile. in fact, he was even promoted, pushed up in the conservative party but he's gone now , he, of party but he's gone now, he, of course, lost the whip over being very critical of sadiq khan and perhaps using language that wasn't as polite as maybe it should have been . but today he's should have been. but today he's joined reform uk and the press has gone absolutely potty over

it. it is, i think, a huge story. and of course i can't comment. i'm only the honorary president of reform. but given that ofcom have tried to classify me, reclassify me as a politician , they'd love to take politician, they'd love to take me off air. so i'm going to be really careful and cautious about this. by the way, ofcom i'm a celebrity get me out of here, happiness, an ex—politician and a broadcaster. but fight will for but that fight will have for another day. christopher hope another day. so christopher hope gb edhon another day. so christopher hope gb editor. take gb news political editor. take it away. what was the significance of lee anderson's move today evening? >> nigel, it's big, i think, because, lee anderson was the red wall made flesh. to quote your friend nick robinson from the bbc. i mean, he says he was seen by many in the tory party, certainly amongst those grassroots in the south as who are these northern cousins who voted for us suddenly in 2019. and lee anderson, to be fair to him, he put the hours in. he basically went around all of those seats speaking on the rubber chicken speaking

rubber chicken circuit, speaking to look , you know, to them, saying, look, you know, we have we were the north we have we were in the north too. north is not where too. well, north is not where it's midlands really. but we it's in midlands really. but we support, the, the, the policy of the tory party like you do. and here i am. and that's why i think it's almost a severing of that connection to the north, i think. and red wall seats, think. and the red wall seats, the, the lions and represented the, the lions and represented the tories would deny that. they would say, well, this guy hasn't been a tory mp for two weeks, lost whip saying that been a tory mp for two weeks, lost khanip saying that been a tory mp for two weeks, lost khan was saying that been a tory mp for two weeks, lost khan was controlled hat by sadiq khan was controlled by by islamists, extremists and rest of it. and he said it was clumsy language, but he wouldn't apologise. james apologise. jeremy hunt and james cleverly apologise. apologise. jeremy hunt and james cleve he apologise. apologise. jeremy hunt and james clevehe refused apologise. apologise. jeremy hunt and james cleve he refused to apologise. apologise. jeremy hunt and james clevehe refused to and)gise. apologise. jeremy hunt and james cleve he refused to and we e. apologise. jeremy hunt and james cleve he refused to and we are they he refused to and we are where we are. but i think it's a real moment, i think, and it could, there could be more following rumours following him. there are rumours in parliament nine other tory in parliament of nine other tory mps follow to reform . mps could follow him to reform. that's quite toppy number, that's quite a toppy number, i think. even so, if others think. but even so, if others follow him, you start getting a kind of momentum behind this follow him, you start getting a kind that,)mentum behind this follow him, you start getting a kind that,)mentithe behind this follow him, you start getting a kind that,)mentithe troyes this idea that, yeah, the troyes aren't wing enough and aren't right wing enough and that at about right that comes up at about right wing. that comes up at about right wing mean, you know, i'm not >> i mean, you know, i'm not sure. right. and me much sure. right. and left me much anymore. the sort of things

anymore. but the sort of things lee about is connecting lee talks about is connecting with class voters my with working class voters as my country said, didn't he country back, he said, didn't he ? the rallying cry, ? that was the rallying cry, a slogan that i've heard before . slogan that i've heard before. he just gave it, yeah, i want my country back. it was very, very strong weather. nine others go or not. i mean, lee, you know, richard, you know, richard tice is saying he's the red wall champion with a plan to tour lee around the northern constituencies. it could be quite a road show. he would. >> he would connect with that. so you've got boris johnson? of course, who managed to a rather amazing politician who united those two, the southern and northern branch of the tory party due respect to party with all due respect to richard he hasn't richard tice, i think he hasn't got in the north. i think got that in the north. i think he's seen a bit more of a he's happy south, where happy amongst the south, where maybe maybe base lee maybe he's maybe his base is lee anderson a part of anderson gives gives a part of the person can tour the extra person who can tour around northern red wall around that northern red wall caused labour some problems as much the tories, possibly in much as the tories, possibly in some today he some seats, he'd said. today he will 630 seats. will fight 630 seats. the election won't down like election won't stand down like the brexit did back in the the brexit party did back in the day, nigel, was day, nigel, and that was obviously you and

obviously painful for you and your friends. you had your and your friends. you had to down. will not to stand down. that will not happen. so right now the talk there are mps have been there are all the mps have been out tonight with rishi sunak. he's spring he's been at the 1922 spring reception. all looking reception. they're all looking at who's next, who at each other. who's next, who might some have might go next. and some have been walking up to in the been walking up to me in the commons. i've come straight from there may notes of my order there now. may notes of my order paper denying they're paper here denying they're jumping. they're jumping. they call, they're calling this calling lee hanson. this kamikaze approach towards politics. some politics. but i've got some names my, my piece of paper names on my, my piece of paper here. i won't show listeners. not fair to the mps, but there are names being circulated about who next defection. who might be next defection. what watch. but i what defection. watch. but i will will those to myself. >> do you think in number 10 tonight saying, well , tonight they're saying, well, lee anderson, a bit of a loudmouth, a bit of a maverick . loudmouth, a bit of a maverick. you know, actually he's not going do us any harm. or are going to do us any harm. or are they worried they will they really worried they will be sitting south? sitting in the south? >> think the south, some >> i think in the south, some southern tories will well, southern tories will go, well, we told there weren't we told you so. there weren't really tories. there were brexiteers, not tories, and brexiteers, but not tories, and they've back really they've gone back to really where which is where they should be, which is almost seat, sure almost a swing seat, not sure where going stand. so where they're going to stand. so i that's if that's

i think that's if that's a problem, because that means they're retrenching to where the tory are. tory party are. >> that would a blue wall >> that would be a blue wall strategy. exactly so we surrender red surrender the red wall. >> wall in >> someone in the blue wall in the told me that the south—west told me that thing that tonight thing exactly that tonight they they think, well, my members are thinking, you go, lanson. thinking, off you go, lanson. you really one us you weren't really one of us anyway. yeah. >> you know i think? i >> do you know what i think? i think they're snobby. yeah, i think they're middle class. middle upper class? he's a working lad who worked working class lad who worked down . down the pit. >> people are. and there's nothing with that. you nothing wrong with that. if you get your that's fine. get your own mp, that's fine. but problem is that's not but the problem is that's not a unifying the whole unifying strategy for the whole country. the problem. country. that's the problem. >> biggest problem >> i think the biggest problem is lee anderson is not just with lee anderson and the tories, but the whole of london is snobby. i think about opinions outside it, opinions outside of it, and maybe, lee represents maybe, maybe lee represents that. be that. it's going to be absolutely fascinating. christopher thank christopher hope as ever. thank you. there are. no comment you. there we are. no comment from at all. ofcom. you from me at all. ofcom. are you watching really watching now? a really interesting moment. sir keir starmer, who can't define what a woman is. and when he's asked by nick ferrari whether a woman can have a penis i'm sorry, i know it's before the watershed, but

this is what is going on in our country. can't answer the question. and now it appears a rather big shift because he now backs ban on transgender backs a ban on transgender athletes in female competition. i mean, why we're even having this debate is totally and utterly beyond me. but we have been for some time, and we've seen swimming champions that were men termed women and many other sports cycling, etc. well, one person who put her head over the parapet on this some time ago and has taken a shedload of abuse is, of course, sharron davies, former olympic swimmer for great britain. and sharron joins me down the line live right now . sharron, you were you right now. sharron, you were you were very early on this and i know you were called you were called terrible things by a lot of people. you were bigoted. you were this, you were that. do you

begin to feel that maybe the pendulum is swinging back towards common sense and fairness for female athletes ? fairness for female athletes? >> yeah. you're right. so the ioc changed the rule in 2015. so i've been talking about this since 2015. and the reason i talk about it so much is that east german era that i was involved with, you know, where those young girls given those young girls were given huge amounts testosterone, huge amounts of testosterone, put form of male put through a form of male puberty, then totally puberty, and then totally dominated sport for 20 dominated women's sport for 20 years and nothing was done. so i saw many of my friends lose saw so many of my friends lose out, and i just did not want to see another generation of young girls out because exactly girls lose out because exactly the going to the same thing was going to happen. even worse, because happen. but even worse, because this wasn't east germans, this wasn't just east germans, this wasn't just east germans, this be across the this was going to be across the whole and across every whole world. and across every single now got single sport. and we've now got about 900 trans about eight, 900 trans identifying that know about eight, 900 trans identifgot] that know about eight, 900 trans identi1got 50in that know about eight, 900 trans identi1got 50in the it know about eight, 900 trans identi1got 50in the fa know about eight, 900 trans identi1got 50in the fa just|ow about eight, 900 trans identi1got 50in the fa just here we've got 50in the fa just here in the england and in fact, just this last couple of weeks we've had fa not standing up for had the fa not standing up for a league of 6000 young girls up in yorkshire, where the parents of a trans identifying young boy

says he wants play football says he wants to play football with girls . the parents and with the girls. the parents and the girls have said, no, we want to keep this, you know, as a girls sport, please, for safety and for fairness and fa and for fairness and the fa said, we're going to close you down. outranks 6000 down. so one boy outranks 6000 girls who want to play fair sport. and this is how ridiculous this this has become. ihave ridiculous this this has become. i have to say, it's good news to hear what keir has to say today. i'm not holding my breath if i'm really honest, because there's a lot of this that goes on. and first and foremost, he needs to be able to identify what a woman is. you know, we can't protect women if we can't define them. and at the moment, the equality act has been, purposely made grey. thing we need grey. so the first thing we need to is clarify that. and to do is to clarify that. and when we use the word sex, we mean biological sex. and we need to be able defend sex to be able to defend sex discrimination this country. discrimination in this country. and the moment it's very and at the moment it's very difficult to do that. >> biological sex >> and this is biological sex through it? through puberty, isn't it? isn't that key point? that the key point? >> it's biological sex. >> well, it's biological sex. full stop. humans can't full stop. so humans can't change it's absolutely change sex. it's absolutely impossible that, you know. impossible to do that, you know.

and word intersex , which is impossible to do that, you know. an�*old word intersex , which is impossible to do that, you know. an�*old fashioned ersex , which is impossible to do that, you know. an�*old fashioned word,, which is impossible to do that, you know. an�*old fashioned word, really. is an old fashioned word, really. it's dsd differences sexual it's dsd differences of sexual development, people with development, even people with differences of sexual development who are in absolutely minuscule part of society, still or society, they're still male or female , and they still cannot female, and they still cannot change sex. so, you know, it doesn't matter what hormones you take, how much testosterone you suppress, what surgery you take, you still be male or female you will still be male or female . that's biological. and in fact, things like schwanger, which is the shape of your hips to your knees, it's irrelevant. that will stay the same, you know? and for women, it's much wider because obviously we're childbearing and something like football six times as many acl knee injuries for females compared males because of our compared to males because of our our anatomy . compared to males because of our our anatomy. so it's just you know, and also you have to remember there's only a thousand women in the uk that earn their living from sport. there's 11,000 and 2% of the 11,000 men and 2% of the sponsorship dollar goes to women, compared to 98% goes to men. so we already have this really tiny piece of the cake anyway, you know, which we're working on trying to grow. and

this will not help it by turning around and saying that, you know, we value the feelings of males than we value the males more than we value the reality of people that are biologically sharon i'm biologically female. sharon i'm not going to bother try not even going to bother to try and challenge on any of that. >> it all makes absolute sense, and bet, i bet there are and i bet, i bet there are people watching listening people watching and listening this are saying, this now who are saying, blooming on you, sharon blooming good on you, sharon davis. put your over davis. you put your head over the parapet before the the parapet even before the brexit and you've brexit referendum and you've never campaigning. never stopped campaigning. you'll beginning to win, but you're only just beginning to win? well done you. thank you for joining me here on gb news. forjoining me here on gb news. i sense that sharon's got a lot more work to do, but the mood music is changing. the pendulum is beginning to swing in a moment. we will look at real angerin moment. we will look at real anger in kent about buildings being repurposed for asylum seekers without any consultation with anybody whatsoever. plus a look at the irish referendum. you haven't heard about it. you will, in just a moment. the

i asked you, do we have two tier policing? some of your comments that have come in. mike says at every pro—palestinian march , we every pro—palestinian march, we see two tier policing. the police attack, an arrest , a see two tier policing. the police attack, an arrest, a man decrying hamas and the destruction of his banner was shocking. susan says the police are working against the majority of law abiding citizens. something very frightening is going on. do you know what, susan? just over the weekend, just meeting people in the street , out shopping, going to street, out shopping, going to the petrol station, people are genuinely fearful for what is going on. another viewer says , going on. another viewer says, yes, we do have two tier policing and it's wrong. and finally robbie says i believe there has been two tier policing for a long time. look how many police were surrounded. the man who the placard . meanwhile, who had the placard. meanwhile, criminals is so criminals walk free. there is so much anger on this. but chris phillips made the point that the

guy with the placard with the camera, he was kind of being provocative and looking for trouble, but the overreaction was truly astonishing. now the frontline county in the war against illegal immigration is, of course , kent, because that's of course, kent, because that's where the boats land and social services in kent have been lumbered again and again with huge numbers of young people to look after. but charlie peters , look after. but charlie peters, gb news reporter, has something ihean gb news reporter, has something i hear. i think , as a story that i hear. i think, as a story that is going to make people in kent absolutely furious . absolutely furious. >> that's right. nigel. in july, kent lost a high court battle along with the home office, which said that they were unable to house unaccompanied asylum seeking children in the hotels. >> they deemed that unlawful . so >> they deemed that unlawful. so as a consequence, they were forced to move to find new premises to house asylum seeking children. throughout the county. so they quite covertly went about identifying nine sites to use. they've picked up two already. we don't know where they are, but from local viewers

of gb news in kent, we've learned that one site in dartford called the limes. they started repurposing it in october without consulting the local community. serious works went on for a couple of months before it was revealed that this site was being used for such a purpose. we've also uncovered today that that site has a covenant placed upon it, a restrictive covenant from 1964 between the nhs and kent county council, ruling that they can only use that premises as an old person's home. however, they've gone against that with this repurposing in order to develop it for a new purpose for the asylum seeking children. now this is, of course, has been an extremely contentious issue for the government . for some time the government. for some time now, 118,000 people have crossed in the small boats since this started. many more in lorries of course, as well, which often isn't included in that. and we mustn't forget that. and at the same 7000 same time, some 7000 people under made that crossing under 18 have made that crossing from july 2021 to december of

last year at least claiming to be yes, indeed. and that is a big part of the problem. and some of some of the information i've received from the home office today is saying that they have robust checks in place, but they guarantee this they can't guarantee this process. we've discussed process. and as we've discussed this channel today, this story on the channel today, many gotten many viewers have gotten in touch their own experiences touch with their own experiences a carers watch a lot of foster carers watch this channel and they've said, you as process has you know, as this process has gone and the state has really gone up and the state has really struggled with the struggled to deal with the number of children claiming asylum the last few years, asylum over the last few years, they've been left cases where they've been left in cases where they're that they they're convinced that they actually adults in their actually had adults in their homes. is all, of course, homes. this is all, of course, extremely precarious . and for extremely precarious. and for the community not be the local community not to be told what's going on in their area, what this significant building repurposed building is being repurposed for, that's generated a lot of concern the same time, kent concern at the same time, kent not saying where those other locations are , is also adding locations are, is also adding fuel to that fire. kent is saying they're doing that for safeguarding reasons. they want to protect the children they're looking after after, as you'll know, some 158 children are

still missing after it was revealed last year that many children have been picked up from these hotels. but we also have learned that this current location in dartford, children are allowed to leave unsupervised. there's a 10 pm. curfew, 24 seven security. but if the gangs can target them at hotels , there's no reason to hotels, there's no reason to suggest the same won't go on again . again. >> no, absolutely. charlie peters, thank you. now, adam cherry was out today with amnesty international. we heard a protest just outside parliament. they hired a rishi sunak lookalike to play the wheel of misfortune over the rwanda bill, which basically had all the problems they had with the policy. adam saw this earlier on. today. these people neven earlier on. today. these people never, ever give up government and rishi sunak, the prime minister, should stop playing political games, dystopian horror games with people's lives, with the rule of law and with human rights. >> so the right to asylum is something that anybody has a right to. if they are under the

circumstances where they have to flee persecution, conflict, war, whatever it might that right whatever it might be. that right is universal. it's for anybody. it would happen to you and i if were in that situation happened in the uk. and that right needs to respected. at to be respected. and at the moment government is not moment the uk government is not respecting right to asylum. moment the uk government is not resrtrying right to asylum. moment the uk government is not resrtrying to right to asylum. moment the uk government is not resrtrying to undermine sylum. moment the uk government is not resrtrying to undermine that.|. it's trying to undermine that. right. there's failed policy, right. there's a failed policy, there's policy, there's an immoral policy, a reckless policy which is not allowing to make those allowing people to make those claims and it's got claims in the uk. and it's got to stop. >> never let be said that gb >> never let it be said that gb views not give you both views does not give you both sides the argument, because sides of the argument, because we do now. a referendum took place ireland couple of place in ireland a couple of days ago. it's had very little coverage uk, but coverage in the uk, but the government enormous government got the most enormous walloping. murphy , author walloping. gary murphy, author and professor of politics at dubun and professor of politics at dublin university, joins me dublin city university, joins me . gary, we've seen almost nothing in british media about this. in short, there were two questions posed by the government, both questions, i guess that would have been seen as socially progressive . but the as socially progressive. but the irish have said no. what's happened here? >> yes, nigel, article 41 of the

irish constitution is to do with the family. and there was two referendums, one on, what we call the family bill and one on care and the, the government, to quote leo varadkar or taoiseach, got a big wallop from the, from the electorate who voted . the the electorate who voted. the definition of the family, to, say, the family and other durable relationships and secondly was on care, was basically the idea of removing the word woman from the constitution and replacing it with a more substantive carers, clause . and both were decisively clause. and both were decisively rejected, won by two thirds and won by 74, the largest in the history of the irish state. so a pretty terrible day, really, for the, for the government, nigel. >> yeah, because, i mean, looking at it, gary, over the last few years, the government have put many referendum questions to the irish people. the always the government nearly always does carry the day. a couple of hiccups with the european stuff, but that's going back a long

time. why now ? what is this mood time. why now? what is this mood of rebellion that seems to be brewing in ireland? >> yeah, i think there's two things. as you said, we had a very successful the government had a very successful referendum on same sex marriage, which was carried by two thirds in 2015, and repealed our abortion and we repealed our abortion legislation, very restrictive legislation, very restrictive legislation in 2018, again on a 2 to 1, vote . and these these 2 to 1, vote. and these these are complex results. i think there is certainly, a large element of, social progressives who didn't think the government went far enough. and there is still a very significant, conservative view in the irish, in the irish populace, that removing the word modern in particular from the constitution was something they weren't willing to do. now, i think, as you will know more than anyone, a referendum were won by, by, by by campaigning. and the yes vote campaign was abysmal. to campaign was pretty abysmal. to be frank , the be perfectly frank, the government parties were half hearted at best, like , the

hearted at best, like, the interesting thing was all the opposition parties also supported this referendum . but supported this referendum. but it was such a weak, a weak campaign. i mean, in order. >> i've lost gary. but i'll tell you what. that rebellion is in the air. it was in the air in portugal yesterday in a general election, in the air over the weekend, with the irish referendum, the european elections coming up in the first week of june this year are going to be really, really interesting. now now, raw interesting. now now, a raw photograph on mother's photograph put out on mother's day, supposed to tell day, which was supposed to tell us kate is really, really us that kate is really, really rather has now been rather well, has now been dropped being doctored. what dropped for being doctored. what on does it all mean? i'm on earth does it all mean? i'm very, very confused, but i'm sure royal biographer tom bower will have all the answers for us in just a moment. >> on patrick christys tonight, nine till 11 pm, lee anderson has defected from the tories to reform. i have a live sit down interview with the man of the moment. has he betrayed his fellow tories? should he call an

immediate by—election? how much has been paid ? the bonkers has he been paid? the bonkers princess of wales photoshop scandal? is it time for kate to tell all the king's former butler, grant harrold, has his say and are we heading towards islamic blasphemy laws in the uk? don't miss patrick christys tonight nine till 11 pm. be

i >> intense speculation about the health, of course, of the princess of wales. not been seen for a very long time. but yesterday, mother's day, a photograph of her with her three children. and suddenly it's been withdrawn. now i'm joined by tom bower, royal biographer on harry and meghan, king charles and a keen observer of these things . keen observer of these things. tom, i cannot remember ever an official photograph being withdrawn and being effectively declared null and void. and this

all comes down to the doctoring of the picture. so what were they trying to do here? well they trying to do here? well they was was kate, unfortunately. >> look, this is a woman who's very ill, who's suffered major surgery, needs a long time to recuperate, and still is still suffering. and she's under enormous pressure with all this, you've got to show yourself. you've got to be. where are you? as there are you something? >> that's all the speculation on the internet as to what may be wrong. >> exactly. and what she needed were wise men, both in kensington palace in buckingham palace, in downing street, to protect from all this protect her from all this harangue, all these ghouls, all these absolute mischief makers, and they failed her. so they said, look, let's have a photograph. so william takes a photograph. so william takes a photograph and the problem with william is he doesn't like taking advice at all. and when he does, it's the wrong advice. he, like his father, likes the men in his entourage and none of them actually would have dared

say, don't let kate start doctoring the pictures as she likes to do. >> so the answer would have been to say to pa or somebody send one of your photographers in and do a snap. >> they're just terrified that they're not in control. and i don't blame them completely because they're harangued all the under enormous the time. they're under enormous pressure, they all the time pressure, so they all the time feel control feel we want to control everything, but you can't control because control everything because you can't this can't think of anticipate this sort problem . and so she sort of problem. and so she comes up with this ridiculous thing. like doctoring. i thing. well, i like doctoring. i like playing with my adobe doesn't, doesn't, doesn't work in the ring. true. well, it does ring true because so naive . ring true because it's so naive. i mean, she's a sick woman. it clearly. do say? i want clearly. what do you say? i want the picture to look better when you say she's a sick woman. >> sick do really think? >> how sick do we really think? >> how sick do we really think? >> think she is seriously >> i think she is seriously sick. she'll recover. but she needs time. she needs a she needs time. she needs a she needs the pressure. needs a gap from the pressure. and what's so unfair that and that's what's so unfair that in end, is a woman who in the end, this is a woman who really embodies the of really embodies the best of british principles . she's a british principles. she's a wonderful britain wonderful ambassador for britain and royal family and she

and for the royal family and she just needed a break. and people aren't willing to give her that break. and that's really awful. >> so william's judgement is william's judgement seriously in question william's judgement seriously in questiorhe should have protected >> yes, he should have protected her. should no. and her. he should have said no. and her. he should have said no. and her her senior private her staff, her senior private secretary should have said no. the secretary should the cabinet secretary should know. and buckingham know. said no and buckingham palace have said but palace should have said no. but the is that king charles the trouble is that king charles is and his private secretary is ill and his private secretary isn't either. and so isn't much good either. and so they've led themselves into this ridiculous , which ridiculous pr catastrophe, which will blow over is not the end of the world, but will they learn a lesson from it? that's the question. >> well, they resolve it by now. having a photograph taken by somebody else? >> i do think so. i think the best thing is that she's left to get to recover properly until sometime the sometime after easter. the photograph what did photograph was lovely. what did it the hand was in the it matter if the hand was in the wrong and but you know , wrong place? and but you know, the their rules the agencies have their rules and right to and they're quite right to enforce them. it shouldn't have got that far. that's the problem. it shows is this problem. what it shows is this is a storm a teacup. the real is a storm in a teacup. the real problem is something much worse could happen down the line .

could happen down the line. who's going to make sure? who's going to guard the royal family from making those mistakes much more serious? >> well, that's very, >> well, that's obviously very, very important. also, very important. and also, i mean, know, we've talked mean, you know, we've talked before about the, the slimmed down well, isn't down monarchy. well, there isn't much at the moment really. >> there isn't. and that's the problem. and they're constantly under from meghan and under pressure from meghan and harry, who are constantly sniping montecito sniping from montecito every week. looking week. they're looking for a story just undermine their story just to undermine their relations here, and that puts even pressure on them. and even more pressure on them. and there's no doubt that king charles i thought today when he did commonwealth address, did his commonwealth address, which very, important , which was very, very important, he didn't look well at all. you know, truth he's not know, the truth is he's not taking natural herbs and things. he's on the on the real he's clearly on the on the real hard stuff. >> so are you suggesting , tom >> so are you suggesting, tom bower, that our king is rejecting north medical advice and going for pills and potions ? and going for pills and potions? >> pills and potions? no, i don't think he is. i think the whole natural medicine thing, which he has advocated for years, coffee enemas to cure cancer put to the

cancer he has put to the dustbin. he's going for the real medicine now. i think he is. i think he is. and that's why he looked so peaky, to say the least. he tried his hardest. least. and he tried his hardest. today a lot of today i think there's a lot of sympathy him, rightly so. sympathy for him, rightly so. but know, going through but you know, he's going through a tough time too. mean, a very tough time too. i mean, he's 75. he's facing mortality to his wife, is clearly tired as well from it all. you know, we make great demands on these people who are not elected. they're born into the job. we welcome the monarchy. we want a monarchy. but at the moment it's just not going. >> they used share the >> they used to share the burden. you've burden. but of course, you've got out of it. harry got andrew out of it. harry disappeared. the queen, as you say. there are limits to what we can. you know what she can do. the king ill princess anne in her early 70s. i mean, apart from the duke of edinburgh, who was 60 at the weekend, there's almost no one left, isn't there? >> well, there are, there isn't. and the real problem is it is a crisis. there's no doubt about it, we're to seeing it, because we're used to seeing the family spread across the royal family spread across the royal family spread across the kingdom day . and now the kingdom every day. and now

we're going to have to get used to something far, far, far more limited. >> and charities particularly rely they? rely upon them, don't they? >> charities, also housing >> charities, but also housing associations, hospitals, local government, the army, the military services, they all rely on the royal family to embody the best of british values. that is a problem now, and that's unfortunately hasn't been made better by what's happened last 24 hours. >> so the fiasco over the phone and let's call it the fiasco because that's what it is. they've got this completely wrong in every way. will they learn lessons from it? >> only if they change staff, if they can only get wise people back into the palaces who understand . but i mean, it's understand. but i mean, it's a top down problem. the problem is king charles does not take no for an answer. he only wants the yes men. prince william, unfortunately, has followed his father . otherwise he also. father. otherwise he also. i mean, he's too headstrong. he wants to create a different monarchy, so that leaves us. well william. >> not even sure he wants to be the head of the established church. well, exactly.

>> i mean, all these things that dribble out. he is a man who thinks he can modernise the monarchy. dear. and exactly monarchy. oh, dear. and exactly thatis monarchy. oh, dear. and exactly that is great problem. that is a great problem. >> sounds like an enormous >> it sounds like an enormous problem. tom power as ever. absolutely fascinating. jacob, i wonder what you made of this extraordinary row over the photograph. well i'd say one thing, and that is that i think the princess of wales is marvellous because she's taken the blame, and i bet it wasn't her. >> and i just think it has taken its noble when a principal takes the blame for something that was probably member of her probably done by a member of her staff, i think it shows you staff, and i think it shows you the of the princess of the quality of the princess of wales, she could easily have dumped a minion and dumped that on a minion and instead she said it was my fault. i'm very sorry. and i think that shows the quality of the princess wales . the princess of wales. >> no, no. well, she's a much loved figure and rightly so. and tom's making point that tom's making the point that she's really quite she's obviously really quite unwell. going unwell. and it's going to be a long time before she's back. >> don't know, but i hope she >> i don't know, but i hope she makes a quick recovery. but i did think that was proper did think that that was proper nobility, noble in the

nobility, genuinely noble in the right for a royal. yeah, yeah. >> take take the blame, how was the day the glorious the conservative party in somerset, the weather was particularly asking about westminster. jacob. oh, what a surprise. >> well, look, i'm obviously sorry he's gone. i think lee and i agree on most things. i mean, you and i agree on most things, so we need to get the right back in same party. it was in the same party. it was a mistake to take the whip away from and obviously i'll be from him and obviously i'll be talking about this in my programme richard tice , programme with richard tice, coming talk about it too. coming on to talk about it too. >> do not think that , you >> do you not think that, you know, the words that anderson used he himself were used and he said himself were a bit clumsy, but it's almost like a class prejudice thing, isn't it? like, here's it? it's almost like, here's this class bloke. he this working class bloke. he used to be a miner. we sort of tolerate him, but. oh, gosh, he's common and so awful. he's so common and so awful. we'll take the whip away. >> that's terrible >> oh, that's a terrible thought, because actually, i think true. lee represented think it's true. lee represented the coalition that boris put together 2019. together in 2019. >> i'm talking about the conservative party. they're not they're aren't they're snobs, aren't they? >> hope not, i mean, they

>> i hope not, i mean, they shouldn't be terrible mistake shouldn't be a terrible mistake because want to voters . because we want to win voters. yeah. and lee was a sort of poster boy. no, i know he was conservatism. >> understand jacob >> well, i understand what jacob saying, i feel saying, folks. yeah, i feel there's a degree of snobbery runs all this. let's runs through all of this. let's have at the weather with have a look at the weather with alex batty . alex batty. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers. sponsors of weather on gb news is . weather on gb news is. >> good evening. here's your latest gb news, weather update brought to you by the met office. eastern parts may have a touch of frost tonight, but further west it is going to turn wet and windy due to an area of low pressure associated low pressure and associated fronts that are pushing their way in from the atlantic. we do also have an front also have an occluded front affecting parts northwest affecting parts of northwest scotland that will scotland tonight. that will bnng scotland tonight. that will bring outbreaks of for bring some outbreaks of rain for a time, across northern a time, but it's across northern ireland where we're going to have the heavy rain and strong winds pushing rain winds pushing in, and that rain will reach far western will later reach far western parts scotland , england and parts of scotland, england and wales. through the wales. as we go through the early tomorrow in the early hours of tomorrow in the east, where we see drier east, where we see some drier and perhaps even clearer

weather, could see a touch of frost, even some patches frost, perhaps even some patches of tomorrow. of fog. first thing tomorrow. but hazardous weather but the most hazardous weather will be the heavy rain and those strong, blustery winds across western parts. initially, heaviest rain over the higher ground, especially the hills and mountains of north wales. and that continues its way that rain then continues its way eastwards and there will some eastwards and there will be some heavier bursts. but it does break up and ease a little bit, with some drier interludes developing time. some developing for a time. some strong, blustery to watch strong, blustery winds to watch out the edge of out for. taking the edge of those temperatures, though they will touch higher than will be at a touch higher than they recently. more they have been recently. more wet as we go wet weather to come as we go into wednesday, band rain into wednesday, a band of rain pushing its south eastwards pushing its way south eastwards across northern across scotland, northern ireland england , ireland into northern england, two to south of this staying two to the south of this staying pretty cloudy, further pretty cloudy, brighter further north scotland, but north over much of scotland, but blustery, winds , risk of blustery, strong winds, risk of gales even severe gales gales or even severe gales towards north—west more wet towards the north—west more wet and windy weather to come as we go through the end of week, go through the end of the week, particularly towards the north—west, but rather mild, a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on

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