these cargos for free because they cute. they are so cute. >> z aren't keen on >> gen z aren't keen on subscribing or even conscription, but we make conscription, but should we make the unemployed the wilfully unemployed get off their for their backside and fight for britain? plus there will be a much needed modernising of the gender recognition processes, which are humiliating and overlong. why starmer's sudden defence of women against the trans lobby proves a labour government would be completely unworkable . on my panel is gb unworkable. on my panel is gb news star nana akua tory mp jonathan gullace and author amy nicole turner. oh, and why this lot up to here? do we reckon? i will reveal all about these gangs very, very shortly? they're making millions, by the way. get ready britain, here we go. the epic diane abbott. tory donon the epic diane abbott. tory donor. race row. next .

donor. race row. next. >> it's 9:00. i'm sophia wenzler your top story this hour. downing street has said comments allegedly made by a tory donor about mp diane abbott were racist and wrong. it comes as the police are understood to have been contacted over frank hester's alleged remarks . the hester's alleged remarks. the conservative party's biggest donor reportedly said miss abbott made him want to hate all black women, and she should be shot. mr hester has now apologised and says he abhors racism. miss abbott, who's now an independent mp, described the comments as frightening and worrying. meanwhile, shadow paymaster general jonathan ashworth says it's staggering that rishi sunak has taken so long to recognise mr hester's comments as racist . comments as racist. >> they're absolutely reprehensible comments . reprehensible comments. >> rishi sunak should now apologise to diane abbott and the £10 million the tory party have taken from this individual .

have taken from this individual. rishi sunak should order that money to be paid back if these comments are racist, as they are, if they recognise these comments are wrong, they should pay comments are wrong, they should pay the money back. now lee anderson made his first appearance in the commons this afternoon since defecting to reform uk. >> he took a seat on the opposition benches next to george galloway. mr anderson was stripped of the conservative whip last month after refusing to apologise for saying that islamists had got control of the london mayor. in other news, children in england who identify as trans will no longer be prescribed puberty blockers. the government said it welcomed the landmark decision , which they landmark decision, which they say is in the best interests of children. puberty blockers, which pause physical changes in young people, will now only be available to children as part of clinical research trials and police investigating a chain of funeral homes in hull have now recovered 35 bodies and a quantity of what's suspected to be human ashes. it comes as two

people arrested in connection with their ongoing investigation have been released on bail. the 46 year old man and a 23 year old woman were being held on suspicion of a number of offences, including preventing a lawful and decent burial. hundreds of families who used legacy independent funeral directors have contacted the police, fearing they may have been given the wrong ashes, and social media influencer andrew tate insisted that he's innocent of the charges laid against him as he was released from police custody in romania. this afternoon. a court in bucharest ruled that he can be extradited back to the uk to face charges once his trial in romania ends. he was arrested after lawyers representing four of his accusers told british police that he was planning to flee romania, where he and his brother tristan now live . brother tristan now live. they're accused of sexual offences and human trafficking , offences and human trafficking, allegations they've both denied . allegations they've both denied. and for the latest story, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning

the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. common alerts. now it's back to . patrick. it's back to. patrick. >> welcome along. now a top tory donor allegedly said in 2019 that diane abbott makes you want to hate all black women and that she needed to be shot. cue massive backlash media frenzy frank hester, who was given the tories £10 million in the last yean tories £10 million in the last year, has said sorry for being rude. a statement from his company read frank hester accepts that he was rude about diane abbott in a private meeting several years ago, but his criticism had nothing to do with her gender nor colour of skin. tories then sent out skin. the tories then sent out a procession of ministers and high ranking officials to say the donoris ranking officials to say the donor is not really a racist. >> it's clear that what he said was inappropriate. >> he has, as i understand it, apologised for those remarks. i think the critical point here is i don't think what he was saying was a gender based or a race

based comment, but it was clearly inappropriate . he has clearly inappropriate. he has apologised and i think we need to move on from that . to move on from that. >> the labour party are in full swing despite the fact that diane abbott had the labour whip removed for denying racism against jews, the irish and travellers anyway , say labour travellers anyway, say labour are calling for the tories to hand back the £10 million worth of donations from frank hester because , as they say, he's because, as they say, he's a racist and that money is now tainted. but as we know, the tories were taking the view that this wasn't racism until step forward. kemi badenoch equalities minister business secretary, who said hester's 2019 comments as reported were racist . i welcome his apology. racist. i welcome his apology. abbott and i disagree on a lot, but the idea of linking criticism of her to being a black woman is appalling . it's black woman is appalling. it's never acceptable to conflate someone's views with the colour of their skin. mps have a difficult job balancing multiple interests, often under threats of intimidation. as we saw recently in parliament, some

people make flippant comments without of this without thinking of this context. this is why there needs to be space for forgiveness where there is contrition. and now, because he can't be outmanoeuvred, prime minister rishi sunak has piped up, saying the comments allegedly made by frank hester were racist and wrong. but he accepts his apology and wants everyone to move on. but of course , he move on. but of course, he hasn't actually apologised for being racist. if indeed people think he was , he's apologised think he was, he's apologised for being rude. and tonight the met police have confirmed that they are assessing the alleged incident after the initial report appeared in the guardian, mr abbott has not described mr hester's comments as racist or misogynistic, but said in a statement tonight it is frightening. i'm a single woman and that makes me vulnerable anyway. but to hear someone talking like this is worrying . talking like this is worrying. for all of my career as an mp, i have thought it important not to live in a bubble, but to mix and mingle with ordinary people. the fact two mps have been fact that two mps have been murdered years makes

murdered in recent years makes talk like this all the more alarming . well, lee anderson was alarming. well, lee anderson was booted out of the party recently for his sadiq khan comments, wasn't he? he said his language about sadiq khan and islamists was but he will not was clumsy, but he will not apologise. well, he begs the question, doesn't it ? if lee question, doesn't it? if lee anderson gave £10 million to rishi sunak, would he still have a job? rishi sunak is happy to take the millions from a bloke who he thinks was racist, but would not back an mp who used clumsy language about sadiq khan . interesting, but let's get the thoughts now of my panel. we've got gb news presenter nana akua . got gb news presenter nana akua. i've got conservative, stoke on trent, north mp jonathan gullis and author and broadcaster amy nicole turner nana. i'll start with you. you don't think this is racist, do you ? is racist, do you? >> well, look, he said something that out loud that a lot of people might think in their heads and aren't foolish enough to say out loud. but frankly, in my view, diane abbott is an

embarrassment. i mean, remember in 2003 when she criticised private schools, then it turns out she was sending a kid to one of them. and then she said, west indian mums will go the wall indian mums will go to the wall for kids. in 2012, she for their kids. in 2012, she went on about and saying all cabbies were racist, and then a load of cabbies got really upset about because that's simply about that because that's simply about that because that's simply a to say. in a nonsense thing to say. in 2017, there was that crash 2017, there was that car crash interview lbc, she was interview on lbc, where she was the shadow home secretary and she she couldn't work out how much it would cost for 10,000 extra police officers. and she went ranging between 300,000 to £80 million. she is an embarrassment. and then finally she was suspended from the labour party for being racist. so because she said that jewish people don't really experience racism, it's a bit like redheads andifs racism, it's a bit like redheads and it's more prejudice and stuff. and she did a letter in the observer. so if all black women were like her, i would be embarrassed. frankly so we are all different. i think where he's gone wrong conflating he's gone wrong is conflating behaviour with colour of skin, so deem that as

so people can deem that as racist . but to me personally, racist. but to me personally, i wasn't offended i, you wasn't offended because i, you know , i just think diane abbott know, i just think diane abbott is a mess, but that shouldn't come it. come into it. >> why is listing diane >> why is why is listing diane abbott's shortcomings relevant to this conversation? let's take all of it and at all that out of it and look at the comments. isolation. well, look at the comment in isolation. shouldn't be up isolation. it shouldn't be up for debate whether it's racist. it so obvious the it is so obvious you are the only person in the whole country. think today that you country. i think today that you must today to not must not have ears today to not be see this clear. be able to see this clear. racism >> do you think that? i didn't say that. i didn't say that. and you're not listening. i think you're not listening. i think you listened hear what you just listened and hear what you just listened and hear what you i said that you want to hear. i said that when conflate the colour when you conflate the colour of skin behaviour, skin with someone's behaviour, then be seen as racist. then that can be seen as racist. so totally get that. people so i totally get that. people will but doesn't will see that. but he doesn't see it way because he's see it that way because he's talking about her behaviour. >> fact that doesn't >> but the fact that he doesn't see it way makes it even see it that way makes it even more of more troubling. there's a lot of people i didn't people who say, oh, i didn't realise it . it was, was realise it. it was, it was racism victim blaming for racism was victim blaming for her being both black and woman one at a time. >> and then we'll bring jonathan in eventually. >> lives matter. i've >> two black lives matter. i've got very, good friend of

got a very, very good friend of mine she's been mine who said, and she's been the mine, she's the best friend of mine, she's taken whenever i've taken care of me whenever i've needed it. she said that you can see would to see why people would start to hate black people, because of the black lives the behaviour of black lives matter, went the behaviour of black lives matte|that. went the behaviour of black lives matte|that. i went the behaviour of black lives matte|that. i got went the behaviour of black lives matte|that. i got what went the behaviour of black lives matte|that. i got what sheznt on on that. and i got what she was saying. she trying to was saying. she wasn't trying to be racist and said, okay, but she trying, but is she wasn't trying, but she is being nice. you didn't even know. say she was. know. i'm going to say she was. she not saying that she she was not saying that she hates black people. was hates all black people. she was saying behaviour, if saying that that behaviour, if it representative of many it is representative of many black that could black people, then that could be something make people something that could make people dislike a dislike them. and i, as a black woman, that i woman, know that if i do something, could seen as something, i could be seen as representative of black people. so that my i have so i'm well aware that my i have to look into how i behave. >> what's wrong, isn't >> that's what's wrong, isn't it? up it? bringing sex or gender up and relevant in terms and making it relevant in terms of a derogatory is racist of in a derogatory way is racist and sexist. jonathan do you think the tories should hand back the £10 million? >> well, i think the comments were vulgar and i think in the context which we've had them context in which we've had them brought attention , i brought to our attention, i would deem them to be racist. and deeply uncomfortable and i'm deeply uncomfortable with in terms the money. with that in terms of the money. at of the day. mr hester

at the end of the day. mr hester is a private individual who's entitled to choose what he wants to his own personal to do with his own personal finances. if we were going go finances. if we were going to go on logic jonathan on the logic that jonathan ashworth is pushing for us returning the £10 million, the labour literally found labour party was literally found guilty institutional guilty of institutional anti—semitism under anti—semitism, under an investigation ehrc. so investigation from the ehrc. so based on that logic, should the labour party not completely fold and pack up and go home based on the that they've been found the fact that they've been found guilty not taken the guilty to have not taken the complaints the allegations complaints or the allegations very seriously? when anti—semitism within anti—semitism was rife within their ranks and their own party ranks and targeting members of targeting their own members of parliament, including my predecessor, who predecessor, ruth smeeth, who was, , attacked verbally was, brutally, attacked verbally in the inbox and actually , one in the inbox and actually, one person has since gone on to get a conviction. so, as i say, mr hester, what he does with his own money, that's up to him. obviously, the decision to accept not is above pay accept or not is above my pay grade. perfectly frank, grade. to be perfectly frank, patrick, will say is the patrick, what i will say is the comments vulgar. i deem comments were vulgar. i do deem them be in the context them to be raised in the context that we've seen them, i that we've seen them, but i think that should. think that think that should. i think that mps have come out said mps not have come out and said that. >> e on, i think we >> then earlier on, i think we saw we saw stride. we did saw we saw mel stride. we did see stride earlier. well,

see mel stride earlier. well, just just before i go to archewell, is mr archewell, i would say is mr hester is clearly a wealthy individual. >> he clearly something >> he could clearly do something decent extra decent with his money, his extra money. go speak money. he could go and speak to diane talk about diane abbott and talk about maybe a charitable cause in her local that he could maybe a charitable cause in her loca|towards, that he could maybe a charitable cause in her loca|towards, which 1at he could maybe a charitable cause in her loca|towards, which would could give towards, which would actually the lives of actually transform the lives of maybe constituents. maybe her constituents. that would positive from would be a positive outcome from what very ugly scene. what has been a very ugly scene. >> you the bit >> well, look, you know, the bit about she should be shot about saying she should be shot and that's just and all that, that's just ridiculous. wouldn't say ridiculous. you wouldn't say that. can't that. and i really can't take him seriously that. him seriously for saying that. well, just well, i think he was just playing in climate we're playing in the climate we're currently in is very dangerous. >> was years ago, >> but that was five years ago, so saying it's so i'm not saying it's acceptable in any level. >> and i'm not saying his >> and i'm not saying that his comments off. this comments weren't off. and this is things that is the sort of things that people and don't consider people say and don't consider that they might be as that they might be deemed as racist, i've plenty racist, because i've had plenty of people say ridiculous comments in a comments to me that are in a sense but i that sense racist, but i know that they don't mean way. and they don't mean it that way. and so, kemi badenoch said, there so, as kemi badenoch said, there should be an energy for forgiveness to him forgiveness to explain to him why will take what why some people will take what he racist. but i think he said as racist. but i think the comments themselves. >> that >> but then that would that would be, that stand could would be, that would stand could i ago. but he hasn't apologised. >> okay, fine. but can i also just point as we heard

just point out amy, as we heard earlier i mean, diane abbott earlier on, i mean, diane abbott hasn't actually him racist. >> abbott hasn't called >> diane abbott hasn't called him hang on minute, him a racist. hang on a minute, everybody else the everybody else can see the racism for what is. it was racism for what it is. it was directed her. directed at her. >> that >> does that matter? >> does that matter? >> know, maybe >> i don't know, maybe she hasn't explicitly but hasn't explicitly said that, but i'm well aware of i'm sure she is. well aware of racism she has suffered it racism as she has suffered it throughout she's the throughout her career. she's the most abused female going, and most abused female mp going, and the want make he the point i want to make is he has an obe and all. he's i think that should be removed. i think the million should given. the £10 million should be given. i tories were i think that the tories were reluctant it racism reluctant to call it racism because £10 million, because of this £10 million, because of this £10 million, because they call it because the minute they call it for it is, was just a for what it is, it was just a silly comment, people. silly comment. previous comment. he's got previous stupid this stupid comments like this sort of people have able be >> people have to be able to be forgiven. you have to. >> has to an element of >> there has to be an element of forgiveness. apologised and forgiveness. he's apologised and he just needs to he he he just needs to acknowledge that some people might racist. but on might see it as racist. but on the not offended by the the one was not offended by the comments. >> the one hand, you >> but on the one hand, you often say live a often say we live in a post—racial society. racism isn't that deal isn't really that big a deal anymore in modern i've anymore in modern britain. i've never said you have said comments lines. comments along those lines. >> that up. >> just making that up. >> just making that up. >> said comments a lot. >> you have said comments a lot. what down played, what what you've down played, what you've suggested that racism

isn't problem in the isn't much of a problem in the uk. didn't say that have uk. i didn't say that you have said that. >> have not said that. okay, >> i have not said that. okay, whatever. what i've whatever. i tell you what i've said. what i've said is said. yeah, what i've said is that is that people, this is not a racist country, but there are individuals racist individuals who are racist within individuals who are racist witiwell, hang on minute. >> well, hang on a minute. that's my yeah, but so go that's my point. yeah, but so go on. think britain is a on. do you think britain is a racist country? >> clearly. at >> clearly. look at the examples, examples that examples, the examples that we've in the two weeks we've had in the last two weeks alone. what we've had alone. this is what we've had from telling from leander. you're telling me. >> let me talk. let me talk. >> let me talk. let me talk. >> nana. you are, you are. you are sitting next to me saying, oh, well, people say this stuff all time. people say this all the time. people say this stuff the time. stuff all the time. i'm a racist. problems with racist. we have problems with this. get to a point this. he needs to get to a point where understands has the where he understands and has the contrition to. but he is suggests we do have a jonathan say to infer that there's institutional racism in this country and that britain is a racist country is so demeaning to people. >> by way , pushes people to >> by the way, pushes people to the fringes of extremism in stoke on trent, we had nine bnp councillors elected because at the time when it was just the labour party was a single party in power, there was nowhere else

to go and protest and the bnp discussing able to use a discussing were able to use a platform able to, reach out platform and able to, reach out to disenfranchised, particularly white class individuals. white working class individuals. i that to be the i don't want that to be the case. people to say in case. i want people to say in the and by just the mainstream and by just saying stroke, that this saying broad stroke, that this is racist will just is a racist country will just make feel so isolated, make people feel so isolated, make people feel so isolated, make feel demeaned and make feel so demeaned and actually who the actually upset people who the overwhelming majority of this country, the 99.9% this country, the 99.9% of this country, the 99.9% of this country racist people. country are not racist people. so how come all these all these. >> no, no. can i ask you a question? does amy or people like amy who white have like amy who are white have a right to tell you that this quy's right to tell you that this guy's comments were racist against black people and that britain is a racist country? >> well, you see, this is the thing. often thing. this is what often happens, i'm told what i should be, i should find. i'm not be, what i should find. i'm not saying being told what is saying i'm being told what is racist yet if that's directed to me, don't find that comment me, i don't find that comment racist, but understand racist, but i understand why people will see it as racist. and i also understand what he was trying to get at all. he needs to be. all we need to be able to do is speak to people, talk him, explain some talk to him, explain why some people see as

people might see that as a racist comment because that's when get the undertones of when you get the undertones of racism, people won't say racism, where people won't say things scared things because they're scared of being racist and then will being racist and then they will behave racist. that's why i'd behave racist. so that's why i'd rather and said those rather he spoke and said those things, can explain to things, so you can explain to him people see him why some people might see what deserved, this what this deserved, this deserved humiliation will be. >> believe me, i'm sure for mr hester, a massive learning curve, and i suspect he will never be daft enough or stupid enough to say anything like that again. certainly for others again. and certainly for others out may think stupid out there who may think stupid things. hope to from this things. i hope to god from this that learn to keep in that they learn to keep that in their very worst of their head. the very worst of these a clear these things is a clear demonstration covert demonstration of the covert racism this country. demonstration of the covert raciand this country. demonstration of the covert raciand but this country. demonstration of the covert raciand but i this country. demonstration of the covert raciand but i just his country. demonstration of the covert raciand but i just want»untry. demonstration of the covert raciand but i just want to try. demonstration of the covert raciand but i just want to come >> and but i just want to come back the on on saying back on the on on you saying people like people like me. people like me, people like me. it's like me. the it's not people like me. the police. barrister, said police. a barrister, has said that fit the that the comments fit the ingredients of stirring up racial not just me racial hatred. it's not just me that the case that's that might be the case that's stirring up racial hatred. >> not actually reported. stirring up racial hatred. >> or actually reported. stirring up racial hatred. >> or actualwhyported. stirring up racial hatred. >> or actualwhy it'sed. >> no. or racist. why it's coming i'm not saying coming out now. i'm not saying the are comments. the comments are good comments. i'm this is the sort i'm saying that this is the sort of that people think. of thing that people think. >> by the way, the met >> and by the way, with the met police, wish they were police, i wish they were proactive out the

proactive at calling out the racism the racism against jews on the streets weekend we're streets every weekend that we're currently to be currently seeing, it seems to be very to react to this. very quick to react to this. yet diane not made the diane abbott has not made the legal so legal complaint herself, so i can't the met's can't understand how the met's taking into own taking the into their own hands. but allowing to but they're allowing people to go streets calling for go on the streets calling for intifadas for, and intifadas and calling for, and calling from the river calling for from the river to the which the the sea, which means the decimation of the jewish state and the genocide of and therefore the genocide of the people. the israeli people. >> it does to >> well, it does it does to them. that's what's important. >> all >> okay. all right. it's a lively start. you very, lively start. thank you very, very in a bit a very much, now, in a bit of a gear change, it is obviously time great british time for the great british giveaway. is the air time for the great british giveso ay. is the air time for the great british giveso is is the air time for the great british giveso is your is the air time for the great british giveso is your is toe air time for the great british giveso is your is to win' and so is your chance to win a garden package , a garden gadget package, a shopping and an shopping spree, and an incredible £12,345 in tax free cash. incredible £12,345 in tax free cash . here's how you could make cash. here's how you could make those prizes yours. >> well done patrick. we've got cash, treats and a spring shopping spree to be won in a great british giveaway. >> you could win an amazing £12,345 in tax free cash. plus there's a further £500 of shopping vouchers to spend at your favourite store . we'll also your favourite store. we'll also give you a gadget package to use in your garden this spring. that includes a games console, a

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the streets in june last year, joins me live. don't miss that. but up next, it's the head to head. but up next, it's the head to head . it's tory mp richard drax, head. it's tory mp richard drax, right? young job seekers right? that young job seekers who turned down work should be conscripted for two years into the army. falklands veteran simon weston battles political commentator connor tomlinson in a feisty exchange. in just a few minutes time. a feisty exchange. in just a few minutes time . this is patrick minutes time. this is patrick christys tonight. don't move

this -- this is patrick christys. tonight only on gb news. now coming up, i bring you one of several exclusives that we've got for you this evening. a story that lays bare the shocking state of britain's parole system . but first, it's parole system. but first, it's time for tonight's head to head . time for tonight's head to head. a senior tory mp with years of military service has called for young job seekers who turn down work to be conscripted. richard drax, a former british army captain and current member of the commons defence select committee, told the house magazine. in some cases , magazine. in some cases, particularly among some of the young, they have got to the point where they're not prepared to contribute to our country and to contribute to our country and to serve their country. and if they've refused three offers of a job or whatever the number would be, you must go and do two years in the armed forces without getting working, wouldn't comes as wouldn't it? this comes as officials that young

officials warn today that young people are fuelling a worklessness britain, worklessness crisis in britain, with nearly 3 million under 25 neither nor looking for neither employed nor looking for a job. almost 4 million adults are also being paid benefits without any requirement for them to search for employment. and thatis to search for employment. and that is an absolute disgrace . that is an absolute disgrace. tonight i'm asking should young job seekers who turn down work face conscription? let me know your gb views at gb your thoughts. gb views at gb news. tweet me at gb news. news. com tweet me at gb news. while you're there, make sure you in our poll results you vote in our poll the results to follow shortly. first, to follow shortly. but first, going head on this. our going head to head on this. our former falklands veteran simon weston and political commentator connor thomas. and both you, connor thomas. and both of you, thank much. great to thank you very much. great to have both on the show. have you both on the show. connon have you both on the show. connor. start with you. connor. i'll start with you. should the work shy, young be made to go and fight or at least do some military training? >> well, some time ago, patrick, i was on your show arguing against conscription for gen z to go and fight with boots on the in ukraine. and so the ground in ukraine. and so i say the following, with the proviso we shouldn't go proviso that we shouldn't go and fight like fight on just wars, like invading spread pride

invading iraq to spread pride parades. but i do think for a dispossessed cohort of young men, about 50% of whom now these days aren't growing up with a father in their home, the army might provide them some kind of discipline structure, mission statement , patriotism, sense of statement, patriotism, sense of responsibility they can take home them and start home with them and start rebuilding our country with a renewed sense of belief in it. great example of this . cambridge great example of this. cambridge academic rob henderson has just put out an autobiography where he grew up in california. he grew up in the foster care system, never knowing his mum or dad his mum was a drug dad because his mum was a drug addict. foster family addict. his foster family split up, he grew up, his dad moved away. he grew up, his dad moved away. he grew up drugs and spent up on drink and drugs and spent seven years in armed forces. seven years in the armed forces. the american air force, and learned from how to make his bed in a proper way, right way through the the military through the through the military , all the skills required to make him world class academic. make him a world class academic. and i think that kind of opportunity paid forward to young boys england might help young boys in england might help the gap we're the social mobility gap we're seeing working class lads. >> all right, simon, if we've got millions young people who got millions of young people who are or feckless go

are too lazy or feckless to go and get a job and contribute to our economy, should we not put them work in the armed them to work in the armed forces? >> first of all, how would you, if you can't get them up to go and sign on the dole, how are you going to get them to get up at 6:00 in the morning to do all the cleaning jobs clean the cleaning jobs and clean their boots and to make their beds? of fed up beds? i get kind of fed up of everybody we've this everybody saying, we've got this problem with people conscription. let's put them in the . why are the the military. why are the military becoming the social workers of our society? politics has failed . the government are has failed. the government are whichever government, because it's continual government is not just one have failed to deal with the unemployment crisis. there's always been a problem with people claiming what they're really not entitled to, but because they're allowed to do it, they will do it. and you know, it's so much my, facilities management company , facilities management company, we offered a job to a guy. and unless we could employ him in the town that he lived in, even

though you only had a 20 minute bus ride. and this is a man who could drive, wouldn't catch the bus to work, to do a bus to go to work, to do a shift. and he would have earned about £700 a week. >> but then i'll throw it back to connor . >> but then i'll throw it back to connor. i'll >> but then i'll throw it back to connor . i'll throw it to you, connor. i'll throw it back to you. connor this. back to you. connor on this. that bloke there , who, by the that bloke there, who, by the way, kind person that way, is the kind of person that itend way, is the kind of person that i tend to despise and probably would and done that would have gone and done that job if he thought there was a chance that he was going to end up being conscripted into the military. right. >> also we know >> well, that and also we know that i think something that i think it's something like 60 of petty theft , 60 odd percent of petty theft, offenders that have over 11 convictions. and this is from a juvenile detention centres right through to adult prisons , go on through to adult prisons, go on to reoffend. now, look, we've got packed prisons at the moment , mainly because we've got about 10% of being foreign 10% of that being foreign criminals. got the highest criminals. we've got the highest number foreign in number of foreign criminals in western sure , western europe here. so sure, kick them but also to kick them out. but also to alleviate of our prison alleviate some of our prison population . at moment, population. and at the moment, rather woolier rather than the woolier rehabilitation programs we seem to be putting men on, maybe military service could actually

provide a lot of these young lads who have fallen down the wrong more structure. wrong path a bit more structure. i think. of course, the i do think. of course, the military be military shouldn't be the dumping people that dumping ground for people that can't lives together, can't put their lives together, but you can but at the same time, you can provide people with the requisite to requisite conditions to cultivate and cultivate some virtue and responsibility make responsibility and maybe make them their family them better than their family circumstances have them. circumstances have made them. >> shaking your >> simon, you're shaking your head. >> patrick. i've got to say, if these have got petty these guys have got petty criminal offences, 11 or more per petty theft , you're then per petty theft, you're then going to put them into a military unit and living in barrack blocks where kit is left out routinely because you need easy access to it or you've just cleaned it, you then have to go for a shower or nip over the “wv for a shower or nip over the nappy to get a drink or something, and you come back and your not there. who are your stuff's not there. who are your stuff's not there. who are you going at? you're you going to look at? you're going more disharmony going to cause more disharmony in the military than is necessary, and we're looking at the military to mop up all of these people. why are we offering them business? you

know, these people have to live close, cheek by jowl. they have to work and trust the people next to them, trust that they're not going to steal their equipment. which, by the way, if you lose it, you have to pay for it. and the military pay is so woefully inadequate. where's the money coming from to do all of these things about rehabilitation that the military expected to rehabilitate all of these criminals, get these people back into a work mode. you can draw out individual things and individuals who have done something exceptional , but done something exceptional, but they're the exception to the rule, not the rule, and that we have to have the rule. and these people deserve a better, better shake of the whip than they get if they had to deal with all of these people. yeah >> and connor, i mean, the overarching issue here is this staggering figure that there are nearly 3 million under 25 who are neither employed or looking

for a job. so it's not the fact that they are just unemployed, it's the fact that they don't even want to get a job. i find that absolutely astonishing. what is psychologically wrong with so many under 25? connor >> oh, lots of them are claiming mental health difficulties and obviously some of that is played up because some of them will be work shy, but a lot of it's because they've been put under really strange conditions. like if you've grown up with a smartphone you've just smartphone and you've had just a deluge of depressing content filtered deluge of depressing content filte you've got other frame of and you've got no other frame of reference, and then you've just been the pandemic and been through the pandemic and you're a little bit emotionally soft, your household hasn't soft, and your household hasn't got anyway got that much integrity anyway because and have because your mum and dad have split you're a bit split up. no wonder you're a bit more fraught. and more emotionally fraught. and that's why i'm saying look, and i simon on on how the i defer to simon on on how the military barracks are actually run because he served and god bless that. but i am bless him for that. but i am saying that some form of national good national service could be good for some people, because it could of could take them out of the environment currently environment that is currently allowing to into a allowing them to fall into a cycle of unhealthy thinking patterns. that's keeping them out workforce. could

out of the workforce. they could come that and be a lot come back from that and be a lot stronger emotionally resilient. look, i'm just again, >> simon, look, i'm just again, defer to you on this, but did you serve with people who, you know, if it might not have been for the military and them getting in at that time, you know, might have gone off the rails or might have had a tough start life, then it did start in life, and then it did sort sort them out. i mean, sort it, sort them out. i mean, i is that i mean, there is that possibility, isn't there? >> well, absolutely. not >> well, absolutely. i'm not writing discounting that it writing a discounting that it would some. would be beneficial for some. but you're release but if you're going to release people prison , which has people from prison, which has been suggested, let them out early and then they'd have to go and do a year or two years form of national service. but these people aren't frightened of punishment because they've already been punished. they've already been punished. they've already experienced what it means. they're not frightened. so if they go in and do some deed , whatever it may be, deed, whatever it may be, whether it be violence, drugs, but don't forget , this is the but don't forget, this is the other thing that people aren't thinking about at all. if you take drugs and get caught taking drugs , that is the end of your

drugs, that is the end of your military career. now, if you then go for your medical having taken drugs , there's no way they taken drugs, there's no way they can put you in in the first place. so suggesting that they're going to be forced into a situation, having a 3 or 4 job offers and turning them down, you can easily forego all of that by blotting your copybook straight away without any repercussions , because nobody's repercussions, because nobody's going to send you to jail for having taken drugs . all right? having taken drugs. all right? but, you know, you can get yourself out of being in the military by conscription for that. >> okay, both of you, thank you very much. top stuff that really, really enjoyed it. great. look, do you agree great. look, who do you agree with is tory mp richard drax? right. that young jobseekers not even seeking jobs, they even seeking jobs, are they at this should be this point? should be conscripted into the army for two steve onyx says yes, two years? steve onyx says yes, 100. do them the world 100. it would do them the world of they learn skills of good. they could learn skills . anyone saying otherwise is condemning life of condemning them to a life of doing nothing. i would argue they're condemning themselves, doing nothing. i would argue theyl'e condemning themselves, doing nothing. i would argue theyl take1demning themselves, doing nothing. i would argue theyl take1dem point. |emselves, doing nothing. i would argue theyl take1dem point. steve .ves, but i take your point. steve allen says the military deserves to as a professional to be seen as a professional body, so the suggestion it's a

dumping ground layabouts is dumping ground for layabouts is an . vicky says give them an affront. vicky says give them the serve local the choice. serve the local community. in some way, or perhaps conscription or perhaps conscription one way or the they need to earn the other. they need to earn their benefits or the dole, as it was called back in the day. look, your verdicts in 73% of you agree that young jobseekers rejecting work should be conscripted for two years. 27% of you say they shouldn't, right? look, coming up, i've got loads on for you tonight. sir keir starmer has found his big boy he's the ban boy boots. he's backed the ban on transgender athletes in women's i outline women's sports, but i outline how i think, frankly, a labour government would just be fundamentally unworkable due to all of these screeching u—turns. former labour mp bill rammell shares but first, shares his thoughts. but first, is the government putting brits at risk by releasing criminals early from prison in a bid to tackle overcrowding? plus, we have an exclusive that lays bare the shocking state of britain's parole system. i am joined by james coates, who's the son of nottingham attack victim ian coates. now he lost his

treasured dad last year to a monster who most certainly shouldn't have been walking the streets. and we'll also have another exclusive for you very shortly that blows the lid off. justin welby's asylum seeker conveyor belt . so all action conveyor belt. so all action tonight.

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first, gb news can exclusively reveal that the vile thug who led a gang of teenagers in the brutal murder of garry newlove husband to the victims, commissioner baroness newlove , commissioner baroness newlove, could be released from jail in just months. adam swellings was the ringleader of a group of boys who repeatedly punched and kicked the father of three to death outside his home back in two thousand and seven, in an attack that shocked the nation , attack that shocked the nation, swellings was sentenced to life in being found in prison after being found guilty the murder. but gb guilty of the murder. but gb news learned that news has learned tonight that the parole board is assessing his case, meaning he could be released in just a matter of months. that comes on the same day as the government announced that some criminals will be released up to two months early in a bid to ease the overcrowding crisis in british prisons. but arguably the biggest form of soft justice was the decision to convict nottingham . triple killer valdo nottingham. triple killer valdo calocane of manslaughter instead of murder and detain him in a

high security hospital, not a prison . well, i'm joined now by prison. well, i'm joined now by james coates, whose father, ian was murdered by calocane. james, thank you very much for joining me. i really do appreciate having you on. is the government failing victims and victims families ? families? >> yeah. it's pretty, pretty straight. that's what i feel is happening, with this news today , happening, with this news today, it's they're just looking at the wrong end of the scale . it's not wrong end of the scale. it's not about letting them out early because the police state the prisons are overcrowded, create more prisons . prisons are overcrowded, create more prisons. i'm not going to kid ourselves here like the countries a shambles, crime rates are a massive high knife crimes that are disgustingly high, the deterrent for a crime is next to nothing now. so there needs to be available cells for these criminals to go into , these criminals to go into, which would put people off committing these crimes , because committing these crimes, because a lot of them know that they're just going to be back on the streets, like shoplifting, for

example. get example. it's you basically get away with it now. >> yeah, indeed. and the initial case that we got ahold of exclusively tonight really was that this individual kicked a man to death in two thousand and seven and was sentenced to life , seven and was sentenced to life, and then here we are now. he could be back out again. he's still be quite a young man by the time he's released. let's deal with that first. when you hear cases like this, hear about cases like this, presumably you think, what's the deterrent this guy could deterrent here? this guy could still have still go on and have a relatively normal life, but obviously is dead and obviously the victim is dead and the family of that victim, they have a life sentence. don't they ? >> 7- >> yeah, 7_ >> yeah, it's ? >> yeah, it's the fear for 7 >> yeah, it's the fear for me that obviously they're going to walk around a corner and see this guy walking around the street, and it's things like that that just you just you have with you forever, like they've already lost the loved ones to such a gruesome attack. the last thing they want to turn around and to see his killer walking free. and we've seen it over the last few months with humphrey

burke being released after two years of a life order, and the victim's family saw him shopping. and it's our biggest fear as well that someone like aldo, a person that you pick the correct word just before the break monster could be out in a case of a few years. >> let's focus on that case now for the obvious reason , could for the obvious reason, could you just explain what your emotions were when you realised that this monster was going to be charged with manslaughter instead of murder, and then detained in a high security hospital ? and my understanding hospital? and my understanding is, and correct me if i'm wrong on this , that that means that he on this, that that means that he could conceivably be up for parole sooner and more regularly than somebody serving, you know, a definitive prison life sentence as it were. what was your emotions about that , your emotions about that, absolutely dumbfounded. to hear the words given to you by the

defence and the judge . after defence and the judge. after we'd seen months and months of hard evidence , everybody seeing hard evidence, everybody seeing what he's done, everybody knows how calculated he was, the fact that this man or this animal, was carrying a knife, which should already carry a prison sentence. anyway, he's carrying bags of knives. he's brutally murdered my father and two innocent students, stabbing them almost 50 times, and he'll never spend a day in prison. almost 50 times, and he'll never spend a day in prison . and it's spend a day in prison. and it's just things like that that just seem absolutely wild to me. >> what do you want to happen ? >> what do you want to happen? >> what do you want to happen? >> in an ideal world, he needs to spend the rest of his life behind bars. if it's a hospital or a prison . behind bars. if it's a hospital or a prison. but he needs to be held accountable. there needs to be punishment because right now he's a patient. he's not a prisoner . he's a patient. he's not a prisoner. and when he's better and his mental health is to a manageable level, he will be released back into the community and he's already shown over the years that he doesn't, follow

the rules. he doesn't believe that he's ill, he doesn't take his medication . he's very his medication. he's very violent, and he will do it again. and there's going to be other innocent people that are going affected by him and going to be affected by him and many others like him. that's many others like him. and that's our that something our fear. is that something needs be to stop that, needs to be done to stop that, because could never with because i could never live with myself and myself if he was released and somebody hurt . somebody else got hurt. >> james, how are you and the rest of your family? i know i spoke to emma webber, whose son barnaby was killed as well a few months ago. now, how are you guys getting on struggle? >> it's a massive struggle, some days, a little bit better. some days, a little bit better. some days aren't. we? feel like we're reliving it all the time with all these inquiries and inquests, but it's something we have to do. it's something we. we can't bring our loved ones back. but we can fight to make sure that this don't happen again to somebody else. and it's been by all these been proven by all these agencies there's massive agencies that there's massive failings the system, failings in the system, nottingham being a big nottingham police being a big one. we've been put under

special review now it just shows that the issues that we're bringing forward are there and there needs to be a massive change because it can't happen again. >> yeah, well, james, can i thank you for coming on. i can only imagine how difficult it is to, you know, rake everything back up and come on and talk about this stuff. so, you know, i apologise that you have to do that, know, if that, but i think, you know, if it some kind of change it can enact some kind of change and that other people and make sure that other people don't have go through what don't have to go through what you families have you and the other families have gone may be some gone through, that may be some element can come element of good can come out of that absolute disaster that happened thank happened there. so, james, thank you very that's you very, very much. that's james whose father james coates there, whose father ian murdered by that monster ian was murdered by that monster calocane. now, that was , of calocane. now, that was, of course, james, look, a parole board statement said this adam swellings had a review where the decision was recommendation for open conditions in 2022, and he's now been referred again and is in the initial assessment stage at the moment. so no oral heanng stage at the moment. so no oral hearing listed. all right. so basically that's on the initial case there. and whether or not he will indeed be released

early. up , just how early. look, coming up, just how widespread is the pray to stay scandal. this is something that we have been following intensely on this show. a church of england priest has blown the lid off and risked his own safety to tell all about migrants converting to christianity so that they can win asylum in the uk. >> they did, mention to me the fact that there might be people quote out to get me as a result of giving such evidence . of giving such evidence. >> absolutely. that is completely bombshell. you will not want to miss it. but first, sir keir starmer says common sense has to prevail as he backs a ban on transgender women competing female sports . but competing in female sports. but can the flip flopper in chief be trusted to keep his word to women? former labour mp bill rammell gives his take next this

gb news. welcome back. an absolutely bombshell exclusive with the former church of england vicar who blows the lid off the baptism for asylum scandal, raising massive questions about welby. but first, nhs england has today banned puberty blockers for children after an independent review , meaning that independent review, meaning that kids who are considering transitioning will no longer have access to drugs which halt the physical changes on puberty . the physical changes on puberty. do we think this is entirely a coincidence? after andrew doyle fantastic special on this very subject recently? i certainly think not. there go . think not. but there we go. meanwhile, keir starmer has ended indecision and

ended months of indecision and thrown his personal support behind banning transgender athletes from female competitions after recent bans were in british were announced in british swimming, cycling and athletics. the leader told the the labour leader told the telegraph i think the important thing is that the sports governing bodies take a lead on this and are doing that and this and they are doing that and we're supportive of they're we're supportive of what they're doing, in elite doing, particularly in elite sports and in the end, common sense has to prevail in terms of safety and integrity sport. safety and integrity of sport. but on minute, this is but hang on a minute, this is the party who just last the same party who just last week announcing manifesto week were announcing manifesto pledges these. pledges like these. >> labour will offer the country to up legislating to to pick up legislating to protect the lgbt community with a comprehensive , trans inclusive a comprehensive, trans inclusive ban on conversion therapy. we'll also strengthen the law. so anti—lgbt+ hate crimes are treated as aggravated offences , treated as aggravated offences, which is, and there will be a much needed modernising of gender recognition processes, which are humiliating and overlong . overlong. >> let's bring in former labour minister bill rammell. bill,

thank you very much for joining us. look, keir starmer is going to be shouted by the woke to be shouted down by the woke mob him if he becomes mob behind him if he becomes prime minister, isn't he? >> he's going to >> i don't think he's going to be by extreme be shouted down by extreme transgender activists. and i don't think there's an inconsistency between what angela eagle was saying and what keir is saying on the specific issue.in keir is saying on the specific issue. in my view , keir has issue. in my view, keir has rightly made clear that there should be a ban on transgender people participating in women's sport, people who are male who go through puberty , as male, go through puberty, as male, inherently have a physical and a genetic advantage over females. and there should not be it shouldn't be treated as a level playing field. and that's what keir was saying, and you know, you might argue keir has been slow to declare his views on these issues. i think in part that's been because of sensitivity. >> it's not it's not been slow to declare his views on it. but it's been very slow to u—turn on it's been very slow to u—turn on it actually, hasn't he? because before it was what was it, 99%

of women. and then he didn't want to get on it. and want to get drawn on it. and then all of a sudden he's then now all of a sudden he's saying this. one thing saying this. i mean, one thing that underreported, in that goes underreported, in my view, labour win view, is that if labour do win by quite large majority, which by quite a large majority, which is, looking likely, is, you know, looking likely, isn't next election, isn't it, at the next election, who of these mps going who are a lot of these mps going to a of young people to be? a lot of young people just of short trousers just out of short trousers who might in the charity might have worked in the charity sector been involved in sector and been involved in student that do sector and been involved in stmwant that do sector and been involved in stmwant to that do sector and been involved in stmwant to ban that do sector and been involved in stmwant to ban trans do sector and been involved in stmwant to ban trans people not want to ban trans people from part women's from taking part in women's sports. bill >> well, with respect, patrick, i completely at i think that's completely at odds with people who've been odds with the people who've been selected labour candidates selected as labour candidates and to labour and who are going to be labour mps. reason, keir, if mps. but the reason, keir, if you like, has taken a step by step approach is that he doesn't want to toxify the debate and there are people within the tory party led by rishi sunak, that do want to do that. but i think increasingly keir has rightly recognised that the extremism of some extreme transgender activists is not going to go away. that's why, and this has been happening over a process of 6 to 9 months. keir has been

making it very clear that trans rights cannot override women's rights cannot override women's rights , that self—identification rights, that self—identification as transgender is not and should not happen under a labour government , and parents rightly government, and parents rightly should be informed if their children are questioning their genden children are questioning their gender. now, all of that, i think , is in line with the views think, is in line with the views of the vast majority of people. >> so if you look at keir starmer and some of the decisions he will possibly have to make when he is actually in charge, he's going to have this stuff on on gender issues. okay. which there's the tories are looking to vote on on friday. i believe it is. that's going to believe it is. that's going to be a massive struggle for him. it going to be a massive it is going to be a massive struggle for him to get anything like gaza like that through the gaza situation like that through the gaza sitthe on like that through the gaza sitthe middle east is going to in the middle east is going to be problem for him as be a massive problem for him as well. we're also seeing as well issues like he's brought in mark carney, as carney, for example, to, as far as i tell, ways to tax as i can tell, find ways to tax the squishy middle classes more than normal . that could well than normal. that could well backfire at the polls. is a keir starmer labour government

actually practically unworkable ? actually practically unworkable? >> no, of course it's not. and, you know, you know, with this critique that keir is weak and will be pushed around, for god's sake, just look at what's happened under his leadership. compare where the labour party was under jeremy corbyn and how was underjeremy corbyn and how it has been transformed . and it has been transformed. and that's taken tough, ruthless leadership. and i think people should judge politicians in opposition by the way they manage their parties . and keir manage their parties. and keir has brought the labour party massively back to the centre ground, so that it's labour that's representing the mainstream majority. and frankly, the tory party who are frankly, the tory party who are frankly a bunch of extremists these days, a bunch of extremists. >> bill, that's a strong statement. there realistically, is there as well. this is , this is there as well. this is, this is there as well. this is, this is this is really annoying, bill, because unfortunately, we're at the end of the hour and i've got to let you get going now, but you use a whole range of we've got to >> we've got to go. >> we've got to go. >> bill i'm sorry mate, we've

got we'll have you got i'm sorry. we'll have you back bill rammell. their back on bill rammell. their apologies, labour minister, former sorry. former labour minister. sorry. right annoying, isn't right okay. it's annoying, isn't it coming up, the it anyway. right. coming up, the outrageous family run outrageous story of a family run haulage has fined haulage firm that has been fined a after six a staggering £66,000 after six migrants snuck into one of their lorries. that is a big exclusive . we've that. but next, . we've got that. but next, parliament finally parliament is finally investigating the prey to stay scandal migrants converting scandal of migrants converting to in order to win to christianity in order to win asylum claims. this whistleblower in the church of england priest reveals all in a damning interview shortly. >> he's need to be baptised. these need to be baptised. the vast majority, if not all, of these had already failed these people, had already failed in their initial asylum claims. >> this is massive live and it's next. >> that warm feeling inside and from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news. >> good evening. here's your latest gb news weather update brought to you by the met

office. whilst in the south southeast of the uk, it is actually going to turn largely dry as we go into wednesday. it's a different story towards the north and west. that's because have a frontal system because we have a frontal system here that is eventually going to start back south start to edge back south eastwards . as go the eastwards. as we go through the night, is going to bring night, that is going to bring some persistent rain some heavy, persistent rain across scotland, across much of scotland, northern then northern ireland and then later into northern england and wales. as the early hours as we go through the early hours of further south and of tomorrow further south and east across the rest of england and drier picture, but and wales, a drier picture, but and wales, a drier picture, but a cloudy one and a windy story for all. and so temperatures really aren't going to drop much. many places staying in double figures as we go through tomorrow then band tomorrow itself. then this band of rain does gradually push its way bit further south way a little bit further south in eastwards, doesn't in eastwards, but doesn't make much is going to much progress. so it is going to unger much progress. so it is going to linger and bring quite a bit of rain across northern england and some parts of north to some parts of north wales to a dner some parts of north wales to a drier story. further south, the limited bright or sunny spells here, but temperatures rising to highs of around celsius. highs of around 15 celsius. windy for of us, but the windy for most of us, but the strongest winds will be across northwest scotland, where there's of gales but

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blowing the lid off welby's asylum seeker conveyor belt . asylum seeker conveyor belt. >> bella—rae birch says we're just trying to offer an open arms welcome . i think sometimes arms welcome. i think sometimes it's a little bit more than that that, you know, sometimes there's a of a political, there's a bit of a political, agenda as well. >> we revealed the scale of the asylum seeker con . asylum seeker con. >> plus, you don't have to look far to spot the migrants . far to spot the migrants. they're everywhere here. we film as one clambers into the back of this lorry , disappearing out of this lorry, disappearing out of sight . sight. >> another exclusive. the man being fined because illegal immigrants break into his lorries and all nhs , our nhs, lorries and all nhs, our nhs, the nhs hits bloating point. i'll tell you how many million people now work for it or so should we pay illegal migrants to move to rwanda ? this story to move to rwanda? this story has just landed. i will reveal all about the latest harebrained

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immigrant racket. that's the allegation in this issue first reared its head when a failed asylum seeker blew himself up outside liverpool women's hosphal outside liverpool women's hospital. it turned out he'd been baptised and confirmed by the church of england, but they lost contact with him. acid attacker and twice failed asylum seeker abdul ezedi went missing again when questions were raised about the role churches were playing in giving illegal immigrants into immigrants a backdoor into britain. this guidance for britain. then this guidance for anglican clergy emerged , giving anglican clergy emerged, giving them tips on how to help asylum seekers , how to vouch for them seekers, how to vouch for them and help them stay in britain . and help them stay in britain. and then the former priest in darlington, matthew firth, went nuclear. he claimed that the church of england was running a conveyor belt of dodgy asylum claims , baptising men who were claims, baptising men who were not christian, with asian men with bags of cash in attendance and essentially a ready army of crooked lawyers waiting in the wings. we repeatedly went to the archbishop of canterbury, justin welby, and the church of england

for comment. they kept denying everything. they kept saying nothing to see here. they kept saying it's up to the home office, not them. and the bishop of chelmsford, the right reverend julie francis de karney, refuted the increasingly convincing claims again today. >> if he's claiming that the church of england is being a conveyor belt for baptisms in order for people to gain asylum status, that is not the experience that i have, and i don't believe that there's the evidence to suggest it. >> and a spokesperson for the darlington diocese even called it nonsense. well, today the lid has been well and truly blown off. reverend matthew firth appeared before the home affairs select committee . the archbishop select committee. the archbishop was invited, apparently, but declined to attend. he then did an interview with our reporter charlie peters, exclusively for patrick christys tonight . what patrick christys tonight. what he reveals is staggering. it began by him explaining the attempt to silence him.

>> they did , mention to me the >> they did, mention to me the fact that there might be people quote out to get me as a result of giving such evidence on what is a sensitive topic and a you know, in some spheres, a bit of a kind of contentious topic. know, in some spheres, a bit of a kind of contentious topic . and a kind of contentious topic. and so i just was given that bit of warning , and it's concerning, warning, and it's concerning, but, and it's concerning for democracy, really when, when a witness at a select committee has to think about whether there's going to be blowback because evidence they've because of evidence they've given, not given, but he will not be silenced . silenced. >> and now he explains the sheer scale of the scandal. >> it's a bit baptised. these need to be baptised and so do these. and then you spot the pattern that actually, you know, the vast majority, if not all of these, people had already failed in their initial asylum claims and they were now in the appeals process. so i think everybody that were being brought to me had already failed in their

initial asylum claim. >> have other people spoken to you about their own experiences who are too afraid to make pubuc who are too afraid to make public their comments as you have? i think i think have? yeah, i think i think people afraid to speak out. people are afraid to speak out. >> that, you know, at >> i think that, you know, at times you know, in relation times and, you know, in relation to topics, can be to certain topics, there can be a little bit of a climate of fear terms of speaking about fear in terms of speaking about these had these matters. i've had colleagues various of colleagues in various parts of the country saying to me, either that it's happened in their patch, or they've seen a similar dynamic in their patch or, they've said things like, oh, well, yes, we all know this sort of thing is going on all over the place , so it's almost like the place, so it's almost like an open secret that people know that this dynamic is happening where people are seeking baptism for the purposes of, asylum claims , but, yeah. so, so they claims, but, yeah. so, so they know it's happening, and, and many clergy have seen it in their own own patch, you know, first hand in my time there weren't any charities using the church as in terms of legal

support. but i have noticed that since then, i've seen social media posts from 2022 and also from this year where, churches like saint cuthbert's, but also in hartlepool and redcar, are being used as, as legal centres where solicitors who are specifically seeking to help people whose initial asylum claims have been rejected, they're positioning themselves in those churches and, and almost basing their operations out of those churches. and so presumably the churches are happy to , you know, join in with happy to, you know, join in with that process. so i think when , that process. so i think when, when sometimes the church says we're just trying to offer an open arms welcome, i think sometimes it's a little bit more than that, that , you know, than that, that, you know, sometimes there's a of sometimes there's a bit of a political, agenda well . political, agenda as well. >> perhaps announcing your >> perhaps since announcing your own very publicly own experiences very publicly through the telegraph, you've also looked further into the situation locally in saint cuthbert's in darlington , and cuthbert's in darlington, and has discovered that that church was actually advertised very openly by activist lawyers in the area who deal with asylum

claims. >> yes. so as i was preparing to give my evidence at the select committee, i was obviously doing some more research and what i found on online, and i've got here is a particular, organiser in a legal organisation that says, their supporting people who are seeking sanctuary, specifically people whose applications have been refused . applications have been refused. and, and then i did a little bit more digging and found that, that legal team were basing themselves out of saint cuthbert's, darlington, but also a church in redcar, a church in hartlepool, and other, other locations. and so, so, so yes , locations. and so, so, so yes, there seems to be in certain places a bit of a partnership going on in terms of both, like an arms, arms open wide sort of welcome to people as individuals, but also, working with legal teams who are trying to help people whose applications have been refused . applications have been refused. >> and it's specifically on

people whose applications have failed. yeah, they're seeing the church as an alternative way to recover that first failure and possibly get passed on a second time. >> and i think and i think this is why the church's guidance on this issue needs to be, tightened up with eyes wide open , because, you know, i don't think churches would want to be sort of, used, used like that , sort of, used, used like that, so, so i do think the guidance needs tightening up and i think, you know, people, people need to have their eyes open to what's going on in this area. >> a longer version of that extraordinary interview is available on the gb news website . so what he says there is that it's an open secret amongst the church that this is happening . church that this is happening. charities specialising in failed asylum seekers are now operating out of churches is okay, and that there is a massive political agenda within the

church of england. let's get the reaction of my panel now. gb news presenter nana akua conservative mp for stoke on trent north jonathan gullace, author and broadcaster amy nicole turner nana charity specialist in failed asylum seekers operating out of churches, accompanied by lawyers i >> -- >> well, it's m >> well, it's an industry, isn't it? i mean, you literally couldn't make this up. it is an organised, focussed industry where there's a lot of money changing hands. it's all under the guise of them being good, but actually there's financial benefits , i think, all round. benefits, i think, all round. and it is time that this really was exposed. justin welby said that sending people to rwanda was against the judgement of god. i remember that and i thought, what a ridiculous thing for him to say , and then the for him to say, and then the alternative plans for rwanda, which i know we're going to talk about later, where they're going to paid to be there , is to be paid to be sent there, is it i don't understand why the government have not got a handle on this and have not decided

they're just simply going to send people back. i think it's absurd. >> so one thing that's important, jonathan as well is we went the church of we went to the church of england. went to the england. we went to the archbishop of canterbury repeatedly as these different allegations kept coming forward. deny, . they even said deny, deny, deny. they even said that what this individual was saying was nonsense . i mean, saying was nonsense. i mean, everyone can make up their own minds now whether not they minds now whether or not they think nonsense . just. think that was nonsense. just. well, have to go. think that was nonsense. just. weiwell, have to go. think that was nonsense. just. weiwell, i ave to go. think that was nonsense. just. weiwell, i think» go. think that was nonsense. just. weiwell, i think reverend firth, >> well, i think reverend firth, though, in though, was incredibly brave in coming his coming forward and sticking his head parapet, knowing head above the parapet, knowing that was going that the institution was going to inwards fire his to look inwards and fire in his direction . varne, i think it's direction. varne, i think it's absolutely grotesque. that woke welby is allowed to oversee the demise church of england demise of the church of england rather than actually preaching about he's busy trying to about god. he's busy trying to play my about god. he's busy trying to play my opinion . far too play god. in my opinion. far too often brought upon often he's brought shame upon the spent far too much the church he spent far too much time in the house of lords trying to politician rather trying to be a politician rather than focusing on the than actually focusing on the day which looking day job, which is looking at this. whether he likes or this. he is whether he likes or not, is the ceo, essentially, not, he is the ceo, essentially, of church england. it's of the church of england. it's his responsibility know his responsibility to know what's it's his what's going on. it's his responsibility into responsibility to look into these know he's these things. we know he's turned blind eye in past

turned a blind eye in the past when serious when it comes to very serious allegations of child sexual assault, has assault, which he himself has admitted , when he was, admitted that he, when he was, i think, at liverpool, not think, at liverpool, had not deau think, at liverpool, had not dealt with appropriately. and actually been the actually the victim had been the one forced out the church, one who'd forced out the church, not a not the perpetrator. he's got a dismal of dismal and abysmal record of failure . and quite frankly, in failure. and quite frankly, in my own personal opinion, he should , amy, this is happening. >> is it not? we have charities specialising in failed asylum seekers operating out of churches, a ready army of lawyers ready to mop this up . lawyers ready to mop this up. it's an open secret in the church. it's political . it's church. it's political. it's happening. i mean, are we going to deny this? >> well, the thing is, reverend firth, he an outlier. he is firth, he is an outlier. he is one and predominantly the one voice and predominantly the voices are saying quite the opposite. but if it was , it's opposite. but if it was, it's just. why let me let me finish. because he. >> he'll get silence. >> he'll get silence. >> come on. my point is, even if it was happening, ultimately the decision making comes back to the home office. the home office employ asylum decision makers whose job it is to check that things aren't fraudulent. now, if there was a dodgy baptism

thatis if there was a dodgy baptism that is fraudulent and that asylum application shouldn't be accepted, responsibility , the accepted, responsibility, the dodgy or the home office, the home church of england doesn't . home church of england doesn't. the church of england is not going to turn down baptising, taken ? taken part? >> don't it is. >> i don't think it is. >> i don't think it is. >> don't think it is the >> i don't think it is the church of england's job to be the if they are creating the judge if they are creating asylum claim. >> is thing. people >> so this is the thing. people who have failed asylum who have got failed asylum records are having an asylum claim created in this country by the church of england. it is then their ability . then their ability. >> but as we've said, most of the parishes complete and most of the reverends that gave evidence at the home affairs select committee said that this has not happening and they haven't experienced it. wonder why? as i've said before, we need more asylum decision makers because i think this not because i think this comes not from hang on, not from a scandal of this is coming from look, i'm sorry . sorry. >> no, will not stand. >> no, i will not stand. >> no, i will not stand. >> you're not letting me. >> you're not letting me. >> i'll let talk >> absolutely. i'll let you talk long enough about there is long enough about this. there is no no more evidence

no there is no more evidence that can possibly than that can possibly be needed than this . you have got people with this. you have got people with bags of at the back of bags of cash at the back of church asylum seekers, asylum seekers queuing to be seekers queuing up, ready to be bapfised seekers queuing up, ready to be baptised and then disappearing afterwards. again, one of them blew himself up outside of liverpool maternity hospital. i mean, it's ridiculous this is perpetuating because like perpetuating because people like me minute , they me hang on a minute, they weren't given. >> let me finish. >> let me finish. >> because you level >> because you you can't level that accusation me and not that accusation at me and not let respond. let me respond. >> can do. but when i >> well, you can do. but when i finish it's people like finish talking, it's people like you, that help to you, amy, that help to perpetuate this situation. because i don't because you you are. i don't know you're wanting to know why you're wanting to believing nothing, believing that there's nothing, nothing it's nothing to see here. well, it's quite clear there is quite clear because there is a problem, it's quite problem, because it's quite clearly problem is the clearly the problem is in the asylum decision making, which is quite rushed there quite often rushed because there aren't decision aren't enough asylum decision makers who they make when. >> is bonkers. they're >> amy, this is bonkers. they're making asylum yes, making fake asylum claims. yes, yes. should be rooted >> and that should be rooted out. however, the whole idea of conversion is very rarely used to grant asylum claims. >> that's not your take. >> that's not your take. >> so first of all, it is being

used whether it's being used or not. it doesn't make the claim accepted. secondly, we've got a situation here where i absolutely agree, and that's why the prime minister doubled the prime minister has doubled the prime minister has doubled the decision the amount of asylum, decision makers, they haven't to makers, they haven't managed to with the funding that we've given, targeted the issue that we've here is that the we've got here is that the church of england, whether it likes is aiding and likes or not, is aiding and abetting. i'm going to abetting. now, i'm not going to cast i would hope cast aspersions. i would hope that not, done wilfully, that it's not, done wilfully, but and abetting asylum but aiding and abetting asylum claims where they're claiming that they've converted and these people are going missing. after we with recent we saw that with the recent horrific attack and murders, we saw what happened, obviously outside liverpool hospital outside the liverpool hospital as well. is undermining the as well. it is undermining the fundamentals church of fundamentals of the church of england . and that mean and england. and that mean that and the archbishop welby woke welby constantly trying to, barrage people who want to control their borders, talking those people down, making vague links back to 19305 down, making vague links back to 1930s germany, which is always an obsession of the left in some cases, is deeply depressing and is going to undermine

christianity even further. look at the last census data. look how many fewer people are claiming christian. that's on his watch. claiming christian. that's on his but:h. claiming christian. that's on his but you undermine christian >> but you undermine christian persecution. we're persecution. we're gonna we're going to draw line. going to draw a line. >> i'll tell you what i >> well, i'll tell you what i mean. archbishop welby actually, remarkably mean. archbishop welby actually, remaripeople in nigeria about people in nigeria being taken hostage by gangs. those gangs, the way, happen to be gangs, by the way, happen to be islamists, willing islamists, and he's not willing to mention this is the to mention them. so this is the kind we're dealing with kind of guy we're dealing with here reacting mr first here reacting to mr first testimony, a spokesperson for the we the diocese of durham said, we are extremely proud of saint cuthbert work the church are extremely proud of saint cuthltot work the church are extremely proud of saint cuthlto ensure work the church are extremely proud of saint cuthlto ensure asylum the church are extremely proud of saint cuthlto ensure asylum seekers �*ch does to ensure asylum seekers and refugees welcomed and refugees are welcomed and supported darlington the supported in darlington. the baptism and baptism records before and dunng baptism records before and during first time saint during mr first time at saint cuthbert's and testimony of cuthbert's and the testimony of local do not local church members do not accord with mr first evidence as priests was his priests in charge. it was his responsibility to check the authenticity candidates and authenticity of candidates and it is surprising that, as he acknowledged to the committee, he did not report any sign of anything amiss at the time. even so, is not church's so, as is not the church's responsibility to assess the veracity and veracity of asylum claims. and yeah , no, amy, you can sass all yeah, no, amy, you can sass all you want, but they're creating the claim. so that's the point

here, right? >> the claims are rarely relevant anyway. >> okay. it is the >> the point okay. it is the point. a loophole. the point. it's a loophole. and the religion or faith not religion or faith is not determinative. asylum determinative. reason for asylum coming up, the tories urge rishi sunak urgently change course sunak to urgently change course after lee anderson's seismic defection how many defection to reform uk. how many letters confidence have letters of no confidence have gonein letters of no confidence have gone in now that are much more in my press but first, in my press pack? but first, this another scandal for you this is another scandal for you and another exclusive. and it's another exclusive. i reveal run haulage reveal the family run haulage firm fined firm that's been fined a staggering £66,000 after six migrants snuck into one of their lorries. ed rogers, director of the firm, has plenty to say about border force and our shamefully leaky borders. in just a few moments. his patrick christys tonight were only on

gb news. coming up. is it true that there have been a flurry of no confidence letters sent in to graham brady in relation to rishi sunak, but more of that in tomorrow's newspapers very shortly. but britain's shortly. but first, britain's migrant to new migrant shame plunges to new depths as a family run haulage firm is fined 66 grand after six men snuck back of their men snuck onto the back of their lorry in france. ed rogers, director of em rogers transport, is absolutely fuming with the government and slack border force after being slapped with a huge fine and doesn't understand why hardworking british businesses are being punished for our shamefully leaky borders. i'm very pleased to say he joins me now. thank you very, very much could we just very much and could we just explain a little bit, maybe to

our viewers and listeners exactly what has happened here then? so illegal immigrants have been getting into your lorries and you're being fined . and you're being fined. >> yeah. evening, patrick. yes. that's correct , we're just going that's correct, we're just going about our sort of normal. normal working practices, and in this example , one of our drivers was example, one of our drivers was coming back from italy, and, and he, you know, came back through the normal routes up through france, he went through the scanners , in the on the french scanners, in the on the french side of the border. and when he came over to the uk side, which is still in france , they found, is still in france, they found, six immigrants in his trailer. >> okay. but, i mean, these immigrants just can't help but get in, can't they? i mean, we sent our reporter, mark white over to calais, and we played some footage of that a little bit earlier on as well, and showed them just breaking in. i mean, can't be to mean, it can't just be down to the drivers to what fight the lorry drivers to what fight these off. these people off. >> that's the thing. you

>> well, that's the thing. you know, at the end of the day, you know, at the end of the day, you know, our guys are just, normal guys going, going about their work and, they're not border force agents. they're not security guards , and, you know, security guards, and, you know, he and we are being punished on this occasion for, you know, for not fulfilling those those roles. >> what's the actual reality like? i mean, is it just a constant battle to stop people getting in to lorries and then when they inevitably do, then all of a sudden what you find , all of a sudden what you find, you pull into dover, do you and you pull into dover, do you and you find that these people in and then the border force says what you're essentially helping to into britain . to smuggle people into britain. >> it's basically, >> yeah. well, it's basically, you know, we send trucks you know, we send 50 trucks every week into the eu. so every week into, into the eu. so we're over 2500 crossings a year , into europe. so, so for, for, for us to sort of speak up and say, you know, this is unfair, you know, we need we need to be doing it, you know, speaking loudly about it because this could happen almost every trip. you know, we're not we're

diligent. we check our vehicles. we do, you know, do our checks . we do, you know, do our checks. we do, you know, do our checks. we go above and beyond. we've got security chords , security got security chords, security systems in place to make sure that everything is, is in place. and the best that we possibly can do to make sure our vehicles are secure. we always go through, scanners on the french side of the border in calais and then come across into to the uk side as far as we're we can as best do as clean as possible. >> the home office says all right, that you're repeat offenders. what's your response to that ? to that? >> well, all i say is we've we've probably had we had two incidents, in the last three years and we're doing 2500 crossings, each year. so you know, that's, that's seven, 7500 crossings roughly over a three year period, we've had two incidents. i think that's, you know, you know, if you compare it to the number of dinghies crossing the channel on a daily basis, i think we're doing a

pretty good job. >> well, i mean, there's an irony there, isn't there, really, are really, which i suppose you are bringing fewer people bringing much fewer people across allowing in across than we are allowing in the as i understand the total. fine. as i understand it, okay. and they it, is £66,000. okay. and they sent email . they sent you sent you an email. they sent you an email. drivers have been hospitalised a few years ago. vehicles have been damaged as well. i believe they're also fining the drivers . well. i believe they're also fining the drivers. is that right? so. so have your drivers been hospitalised as a result of trying to fight some of these people off? >> yeah. so my original facebook post, i put photo of one of post, i put a photo of one of our trucks that , that was our trucks that, that was attacked in approach to attacked in or on approach to calais a few years ago, the driver actually ended up in hospital at the end of that. you know, boulders were thrown at his windscreen branches , chucked his windscreen branches, chucked under the of the truck, to under the front of the truck, to try stop it so that people try and stop it so that people could could board the truck , and could could board the truck, and then, you know, expecting i'm not quite sure what they were expecting to achieve doing expecting to achieve by doing it. was it. obviously, the truck was undrivable once they had smashed the windscreen and, yeah, our driver was hospital hospitalised

after that. >> and you guys are the ones getting fined. it's the mind boggles the mind absolutely boggles. well, look, can i just say thank you very, very much for coming on the show. and i would like to continue following your story your company's your story and your company's story so i do to story as well. so i do hope to get you back on at some point soon, if you can keep us updated and out to you as and we'll reach out to you as well. so all best, going well. so all the best, going forward, got a statement forward, i've got a statement here the home office. the here from the home office. the home says we home office spokesperson says we are of are relentless in our pursuit of those enter the uk those who seek to enter the uk illegally to illegally and stand ready to respond clandestine respond robustly to clandestine arrivals. vehicles arrivals. far too many vehicles are adequately to are not adequately secured to stop boarding them. stop migrants boarding them. that's last 12 that's why in the last 12 months, strengthened the months, we've strengthened the hauliers with hauliers civil penalty with significantly increased financial penalties to ensure that drivers are taking every reasonable step to deter illegal migration and disrupt people smugglers. that was ed rogers there. you were hearing earlier on boss of m rogers haulage. thank you very, very much. look coming up. worried tories tell rishi sunak to urgently change course after lee anderson's bombshell defection to reform uk. apparently some letters of

no confidence have been flying in and we'll be asking jonathan gerlis all about that. plus, should we pay migrants to move to rwanda? i'll reveal all of the latest harebrained home office scheme that has landed just ago, and of just a few moments ago, and of course, we'll have all of tomorrow's newspaper front pages for you

gb news. all right. it's time to bring you all of tomorrow's news tonight. now, with the first of the pages . we start with the front pages. we start with the front pages. we start with the metro three held over £76 million care home con fraud office raids after company bought plane, yachts and super cars there. we are not the most subtle there, is it? the independents. they've got a big picture of andrew tate. of course he's back in court in romania, but their big story is the race row . pm admits the tory race row. pm admits donor who said mp should be shot was racist diane abbott. it says

here diane abbott reports frank hester to the met police for frightening comments. sunak. forced to step in, the son paul leaves £125,000 to his dogs. this is telly favourite paul o'grady. he left £15.5 million in his will, and £125,000 of that was set aside to look after his five pet dogs. apparently the times. well, a couple of big stories here on the times. so nhs bands, puberty blockers for gender change children. this is a big story and it's actually in my view, gb news related. so it's this children who want to change gender will no longer be prescribed puberty blockers on the very own andrew the nhs. our very own andrew doyle a piece on this doyle did a big piece on this over weekend. i'm not over the weekend. i'm not convinced. a massive convinced. it's a massive coincidence we now coincidence that we now have some action, but the big some serious action, but the big story here is what story at the bottom here is what will zoning in rwanda. will be zoning in on rwanda. plan offer migrants £3,000 plan will offer migrants £3,000 to leave. so look on my panel i have got gb news presenter nana akua. we've got conservative

stoke on trent north mp jonathan gullis and author and broadcaster amy nicole turner. so let's focus in on that story in the times. sorry, jonathan, failed asylum seekers will be offered thousands of pounds to encourage them to move rwanda encourage them to move to rwanda under a new voluntary scheme drawn ministers , the uk drawn up by ministers, the uk struck a new deal with the rwandan government earlier this year that is separate to the controversial deportation scheme, which is currently being stalled in the house of lords. so now apparently, this is what's happening, jonathan. so is this really something you would back ? do you think so? would back? do you think so? >> obviously, like you, i'm reading it as it comes. i'm led to believe from the article that it says that this voluntary scheme has been running for a while for people to go back to their country of origin. and this rwanda scheme would be unique it's obviously unique because it's obviously sending people to rwanda specifically, not necessarily their of origin. i'm their country of origin. i'm obviously going to be on the blower to michael tomlinson, the minister, as we get off minister, as soon as we get off air. patrick, because i to

air. patrick, because i want to understand just factually understand just how factually accurate to accurate this is, but also to make sure that this is something that the logic behind it as well . but i'll be perfectly frank with from what i've read, with you, from what i've read, from gut instinct tells from what my gut instinct tells me, deeply uncomfortable me, i'm deeply uncomfortable with british taxpayers money being given people have being given to people who have illegally our country illegally entered our country from safe mainland france, who are to . we've already are meant to. we've already meant to have identified, and i have seen from the prime minister a a lot of work minister a hell of a lot of work behind the scenes to make sure the operation, of this the operation, operation of this scheme to go. and scheme is ready to go. and simply, you've here simply, if you've come here illegally, on illegally, you should be put on the be gone. and we the plane and be gone. and we shouldn't encourage shouldn't have to encourage you to do that. we should have the legal to just that. legal ability to just do that. i mean, as far i'm concerned, mean, as far as i'm concerned, again, reading this it again, just reading this now, it will use the voluntary returns system enables system that enables failed asylum foreign asylum seekers, foreign criminals migrants criminals and other migrants with to remain in the with no right to remain in the uk to return to their home country at fine voluntary return. >> but under the scheme, migrants can receive financial assistance worth up to £3,000 as well return to their country well to return to their country of origin. so we are paying failed asylum seekers to leave.

>> but apparently i just think this is just absurd. i'd literally just send them back. i don't why we're don't understand why we're having hard time. other having such a hard time. other countries it, but countries are able to do it, but somehow seem to this somehow we seem to have this woke brigade that makes it almost non impossible remove almost non impossible to remove these they shouldn't these people when they shouldn't be and they're be here, and they're able to access things legal aid to access things like legal aid to continue appeal and stuff. continue to appeal and stuff. again, all paying for it. again, we're all paying for it. it doesn't make any sense at all. we should be able to take these people back to either rwanda without having to pay for them. it shouldn't be voluntary. it shouldn't get extra money for doing they're doing it. they're here illegally. amy, your view illegally. okay amy, your view on this taxpayers money? apparently it seems, are going to offering offering migrants to leave, i guess that they're trying desperately to get this within international law so that we don't continue spending 7 million a week on hotels . million a week on hotels. >> so this is a last ditch attempt to make the rwanda scheme work , in theory, i think. scheme work, in theory, i think. but my question would, oh , but my question would, oh, actually israel did a similar scheme, this same voluntary

scheme, this same voluntary scheme to rwanda, in fact. and it just didn't go as planned. yeah. and it ended with but that's the element of deterrent about rwanda isn't it. >> that's like if it was like, oh sweet, i'll just go to rwanda then it's not really a deterrent is it? so that's the kind of that's the plan with rwanda is it hits that squishy sweet spot between really being awful between not really being awful from a human rights perspective, but being ideal for, but also not being ideal for, what, 200 people? >> so there was a one in such a vanishingly small chance of you even going to rwanda that the whole scheme scheme was impractical. the scheme was uncapped because the scheme is about and the idea about scaling up, and the idea is get initial flights is to get initial flights off the and we can the ground and then we can quickly very expensive way quickly scale very expensive way over quickly scale very expensive way ovewell, it's actually world >> well, it's actually world leading the other one leading and it's the other one going be, i think, really, going to be, i think, really, positive when it comes to actually making sure that we get those we stop those fights off and we stop people having, coming over here unnecessarily . and unnecessarily and illegally. and when keir starmer has got to stand the house of commons or stand in the house of commons or on a news channel, which i know he keeps, you know, dodging

doing people's panel here on doing a people's panel here on gb if finds the gb news, if he finds the backbone actually backbone one day to actually do that, to that, he'll have to justify to them would cancel those them why he would cancel those flights, i think will flights, which i think will go down badly will have a down very badly and will have a huge on the polls huge impact on the polls particularly, people particularly, i think people will although will celebrate because although although that although you're right that polling that want polling says that we want to control borders, polling control our borders, polling does not support the rwanda scheme. a massive waste of >> this is a massive waste of money, not the rwanda scheme. >> no, no, no, the polling does. >> no, no, no, the polling does. >> just doesn't. it's what >> it just doesn't. it's what has 300 million. you're has it cost, 300 million. you're wrong though. >> taxpayers money. >> tons of taxpayers money. you're wrong. you're actually wrong. >> to you. does >> i'm happy to show you. does i'm show you a survey i'm happy to show you a survey from rwanda. >> does, it does. and >> yes it does, it does. and there's one's there's no alternative. no one's got say. all got anything other to say. all they is, oh, that's not they can say is, oh, that's not very nice. >> or really. they say >> or not really. they say processed planes and let processed the planes and let them work almost slightly. processed the planes and let the it work almost slightly. processed the planes and let the it feels almost slightly. processed the planes and let the it feels almost slightly >> it feels almost slightly racist are happy racist that people are not happy about to rwanda, about sending people to rwanda, but terrible human but they have a terrible human rights record. how many years ago? years ago? ago? how many years ago? >> they >> currently they kill journalists. >> technically >> germany technically has a terrible record. terrible human rights record. there countries that there are so many countries that are things. no, no, no are doing bad things. no, no, no no. china, britain. the past, no. china, britain. in the past, how was it until after how long ago was it until after the or did we start

the world war or did we start trading germany? trading with germany? >> probably very quickly, so we can easily forget and move on with and rwanda is with these things. and rwanda is a country, so and an a good country, so and it's an alternative . it's just so would alternative. it's just so would you say evidence? >> evidence stack up >> the evidence doesn't stack up to what you're saying at all. have you ever been. also have you ever been. and also we've got whole no quibble, we've got that whole no quibble, discount said he's going discount that he said he's going to give back the money if we want it. so why don't we just take offer out something else? >> well, look. >> well, look. >> else, what else? >> what else, what else? >> what else, what else? >> the next section in the >> in the next section in the next going to have next section, i'm going to have a look about whether a little look about whether or not of no not some, letter of no confidence have in. confidence have gone in. and there's a bit of there's talk about a bit of a rebellion over anderson rebellion over the lee anderson stuff. round this stuff. but just to round this particular segment off, it was all well for a gang of all going so well for a gang of luxury used luxury car thieves who used a sophisticated copying sophisticated signal copying technique to open a keyless bentley. but having mastered the art of unlocking the car, perhaps the gang should have put a little bit more thought into their getaway plan. there it is. oh my god, what a way to ruin a bentley! hey, but that was the first gate. there it is . first gate. there it is. straight out the back of it. there was the first gate dealt

with and then there was the second, there we are. yeah. luckily all four thieves have been caught and sentenced collectively to 12.5 years for the theft of 53 cars valued at a whopping £3.7 million in total. look, coming up is nhs england doing the right thing by finally blocking puberty blockers for kids? can youngsters even conceive to such interventions? find out more when i crown tonight's greatest britain in union jack acas. but yes, we're going to be talking as well about cheltenham festival. they've bowed down to the woke mob, they? scrapped mob, have they? and scrapped tomorrow's ladies day for the so—called style wednesday. the ironically named that'll award both and women for their both men and women for their fashion. when's the war on women going to end? is

gb news. all right. welcome back. i've got more of you from pages for you now. let's start with the daily telegraph starmer will

allow assisted dying vote. a law could be changed by the end of the decade. if labour wins the general election, they've got also a story here. british students could lose university places to wealthy foreign students. and the covid inquiry is fundamentally biased , is fundamentally biased, scientists warned. so quite a big front page from the telegraph there. the daily mail . telegraph there. the daily mail. what have they with our what have they done with our loved bodies? this is an loved ones bodies? this is an absolutely unbelievable story. families of their families tell the mail of their anguish as police describe truly horrific events at funeral parlours, and 1000 people ring the hotline, so more than 1000 grieving relatives have contacted a police hotline set up as part of a probe into an alleged undertaker scandal. i mean, dozens of families whose loved ones were handled by legacy independent funeral directors have been left agonising whether the agonising over whether the bodies actually bodies were ever actually cremated or if they received the wrong ashes. i mean , good grief. wrong ashes. i mean, good grief. the guardian tory donors remarks were racist and wrong. number 10 downing street has described

those remarks made about diane abbott by the conservative party's biggest donor as racist and wrong. we did discuss that earlier the show . the earlier on in the show. the mirror heartbreak and horror. they are this funeral home they are this this funeral home style undertaker story, i should say, woman told how she fears say, a woman told how she fears for her father and brothers remains as police spoke of a truly horrific incident at the legacy funeral parlour. yeah, i mean, it just beggars belief, doesn't it? at the i sunak bowels to tory pressure to admit that the donor was a racist. pm condemns remark made by that major tory donor. here's the daily express for you now. boris vows to campaign on great brexit freedoms. borisjohnson vows to campaign on great brexit freedoms. boris johnson will hit the campaign trail to protect the campaign trail to protect the hard won and great brexit freedoms he secured with his election victory. there we go . election victory. there we go. there's also a picture story if camilla is a barbie girl. so there we are. it's got it all. it's got it all. there we are, obviously i am joined yet again by we've akua by my panel. we've got nana akua gb star conservative, stoke gb news star conservative, stoke on trent north mp jonathan gullis and author and

broadcaster amy turner. broadcaster amy nicole turner. now always that our now we are always told that our health service is understaffed, underfunded life underfunded and running on life support. recent figures from support. but recent figures from the office of national statistics tell a very different story . it's been revealed that story. it's been revealed that employment in has hit employment in the nhs has hit more than 2 million, meaning that more than 1 in 3 public sector staff work for our health service . that is three service. that is over three times the population of luxembourg. is apparently two luxembourg. it is apparently two djibouti's. this comes after the chancellor, jeremy hunt, announced an extra 6 billion to go into the nhs, with the budget currently sitting at around 164.9 billion. however, apparently all of this is just not enough, with the chief executive of the nhs confederation saying the extra cash would scarcely touch the side. nana are we now a health service with a country attached? >> what do you know? i call it the no help service. if you've ever tried to use any part of it, it doesn't really get you very far, this is to me, the nhs is like a black hole you keep chucking money in. but there's so much waste in so many

different areas of it. i mean, it's a monolith. so should different areas of it. i mean, it'stakinglolith. so should different areas of it. i mean, it'staking advantage should different areas of it. i mean, it'staking advantage of should different areas of it. i mean, it'staking advantage of economies be taking advantage of economies of terms of procurement of scale in terms of procurement and buying things. but have they? they're still they? oh no, they're still spending more money on drugs that really cheaply that you can buy really cheaply in other areas on the high street, so for me, the nhs, no matter how much money you chuck at the problem is that it's at it, the problem is that it's at it, the problem is that it's a heavy triangle with a top heavy triangle with bureaucracy top and loads bureaucracy at the top and loads of managers being paid a fortune. and when you actually get the people that need get to the people that they need , they are looking staff. , they are looking for staff. it's ridiculous. well for it's just ridiculous. well for me, said it before and me, i've said it before and i agree with sajid that we agree with sajid javid that we need to have a royal commission to look the to actually look at what the purpose of nhs is and we purpose of the nhs is and we wanted to do, and i always find it when wes it quite amusing when wes streeting from labour comes back from australia from tours and says australia is really good. >> to copy that model. >> we need to copy that model. and i like me , point and when i people like me, point out, that's a system out, well, that's a dual system of private public of both private and public health care goes, it'll health care goes, but it'll still be public. you can't still be public. so you can't really something really copy and paste something honestly, and be frank with the british not british public if you're not going to actually it going to actually implement it as be. and by the way, as it should be. and by the way, we there's lot of these we know there's a lot of these

equality, diversity, inclusion nonsense people in the nhs. we also that labour's also know that the labour's legacy the pfi, the royal legacy of the pfi, the royal stoke, which in my in my area stoke, which is in my in my area , yeanis stoke, which is in my in my area , year, is not , 20 million a year, is not going front line. it's going to the front line. it's going to the front line. it's going service debt on going to service the debt on this ridiculous deal. the this ridiculous pfi deal. the hospital 250 beds built hospital with 250 beds built than original than when it was original originally there, despite population growth. absurd. >> look , i mean, you >> i mean, look, i mean, you know, we've got now whatever it was, was it twice the population, three the population, three times the population, three times the population working population of luxembourg working in our nhs, for goodness sake, record levels of funding. it's not i mean, broken not enough. i mean, it's broken isn't it? >> and we've still got >> right. and we've still got massive on the front massive vacancies on the front line in the doctors and the nurses, is what we all nurses, which is what we all ultimately really worry about, but i think people here reform and they translate it to dismantle. and it doesn't have to case. one thing that to be the case. one thing that i'm quite passionate about is putting emphasis putting more emphasis on preventative health care. we have rubbish screenings have such rubbish screenings like we don't have skin cancer screenings. by standard, we're really rubbish with bowel cancen really rubbish with bowel cancer. quite things are left really late , every time we talk really late, every time we talk about kids and we talk about that cleaning, the that teeth cleaning, that's the most tooth decay most common reason tooth decay that end hospital

that children end up in hospital costs of so if we costs loads of money. so if we could, if we could, really focus on preventative side, on that preventative side, we might to the nhs might be able to make the nhs smaller reform it. smaller and reform it. >> all right. okay. well that's the boxed off. but the now the nhs boxed off. but the now this story is of course quite a big controversy. right. so the annual horse racing event, cheltenham festival is in full swing finally swing today. but it's finally been noticed that one of its famous traditions has been whipped by the woke lobby ladies day. so the second day of the festival in gloucestershire, known celebrities , known to attract celebrities, royalty, etc. you know it is what on the tin , right? what it says on the tin, right? okay, so compete for best okay, so people compete for best dressed. sport's dressed. however, the sport's flagship festival quietly stopped it. apparently stopped marketing it. apparently in 2018, but race goers just very recently spotted the switch. this time. the change also encourages racegoers to make more sustainable fashion choices , such as rewearing or choices, such as rewearing or brief borrowing existing outfits, buying second hand garments , i mean, nana doesn't garments, i mean, nana doesn't need to go off the high horse . need to go off the high horse. >> oh very good. >> oh very good. >> i could do a really good horse, sort of impression. >> oh my god, none of that is

amazing , that is amazing. amazing, that is amazing. >> look, i just think this is ridiculous, but i'm glad people have sort of spotted that. i think this is what, what this mission sort of creep of the whole sort of ideology is that you don't these things you don't notice these things are years or are changing until years or weeks months later, weeks or whatever months later, where suddenly erasing where you're suddenly erasing something that was specific to one i would say that one gender. so i would say that it does sound like some activists may have got in there and gradually changed it. and we weren't. sleeping at the weren't. we were sleeping at the wheel many things. wheel like so many things. and this is now. now doesn't this is now. this now doesn't exist. that i don't know whether i care. >> will e- e—n ? >> 7- >> i've 7_ >> i've never ? >> i've never been to 7 >> i've never been to ladies day, patrick. all i'm saying is what nana said is basically my is my comment on this. but look, i that is i just think that it is absolutely we've got i just think that it is aisituation we've got i just think that it is aisituation where we've got i just think that it is aisituation where effectively! got a situation where effectively we're cancelling women, which is what we in effect, doing what we are in effect, doing from actually having a day at the races, which is actually something that's really important racegoers up important to many racegoers up and great country of and down the great country of ours. ultimately, just ours. and ultimately, i just think just virtue think it's just virtue signalling. oh , on the signalling. adding oh, on the please rewear sustainable

clothing mean, just please rewear sustainable clopeople mean, just please rewear sustainable clopeople enjoy mean, just please rewear sustainable clopeople enjoy themselvest please rewear sustainable clopeople enjoy themselves . amy. >> gone. you can see your head shake. >> no, ijust shake. >> no, i just think you can level this kind of criticism at other things. level this kind of criticism at oth but1ings. level this kind of criticism at oth but this. level this kind of criticism at oth but this is jockey club. >> but this is the jockey club. there's nothing woke about horse racing . they have 14 other racing. they have 14 other racecourses that all still offer ladies day. they've changed one particular event. five years. how many? six years ago. why, and also a lot of people do get worried about what to wear to the races. they do, and it's quite a lot of pressure. so if you take that off a little bit and sustainable things, something well have something you've worn well have you worn that before. >> realistic. if you're >> just not realistic. if you're going i was to a one going if i was going to a one off every year, i'd off event every year, i'd absolutely sure i wore absolutely make sure i wore something different. and something totally different. and why to feel why should i be made to feel guilty to be guilty or it's got to be sustainable? we'll guilty or it's got to be sustayou le? we'll guilty or it's got to be sustayou at’ we'll guilty or it's got to be sustayou at royal we'll guilty or it's got to be sustayou at royal ascotve'll guilty or it's got to be sustayou at royal ascot just keep you at royal ascot just quick, just quickly before we go to the union jack. >> there was a story as well that's been doing the rounds. and know, it's his and jonathan, you know, it's his relevance the party. relevance to the tory party. right. about of right. so, it's about a bit of push lee anderson, right. so, it's about a bit of push sacking lee anderson, right. so, it's about a bit of push sacking and lee anderson, right. so, it's about a bit of push sacking and theninderson, right. so, it's about a bit of push sacking and then defection well, sacking and then defection and whether or not letter no confidence going in where

confidence are going in where are you on that? will you be handing in a letter of no confidence at all? >> absolutely not. the prime minister full minister has my absolute full support. not be support. i will not be defecting. interest defecting. i've got no interest in i've a member in defecting. i've been a member of conservative of the conservative party since i old. being i was 18 years old. being a councillor, being on the executive associations executive of local associations run parliamentary seats and run in parliamentary seats and i'll member i'll become the member of parliament. think takes parliament. i think it takes moral courage moral conviction and courage to stay and fight what you stay and fight for what you believe internally it does believe internally than it does to actually you wish. to run when actually you wish. she hadn't sacked though, she hadn't sacked lee, though, i think, i think lee put think, look, i think lee put himself situation, which himself in that situation, which lee admitted , and lee himself has admitted, and the prime minister did the right thing in saying that need to thing in saying that you need to say look, working class say sorry. look, working class values grandfather values that my grandfather brought with is when brought me up with is when you've done something wrong, when just when you've been clumsy, just say move and also, say sorry and move on. and also, my taught me that my grandfather taught me that when someone has given you something, looked something, when someone's looked out prime out for you as the prime minister when gave me minister did when he gave me that deputy chairman. that job as deputy chairman. don't don't bite the hand don't fight. don't bite the hand that feeds. >> okay. right. look, >> all right? okay. right. look, it's now a speedy it's time now for a very speedy edition today's greatest edition of today's greatest britain jackass all britain in union. jackass all right. okay. nana. quickly.

greatest britain. >> it's got to be lee anderson. yes. so, making a change in politics and showing that you've got to be principled, even if it makes you look, you know, you've moved one party to the moved from one party to the next. they're all next. but they're not. all right. not conservative. >> go on then, jonathan. >> go on then, jonathan. >> because finally >> nhs england because finally common prevailed. common sense has prevailed. getting puberty getting rid of these puberty blockers thank the blockers for kids. thank the lord. okay. >> on. >> go on. »- >> go on. >> i've gone for this. this >> amy, i've gone for this. this guy kevin hilliard, he's he's had mix stall for 25 had a pick and mix stall for 25 years, but the local council have said this. this doesn't fit with our branding because we're focusing on health now. so they've kicked him out. >> so take the pick. >> so take the pick. >> which council name it. name the council name and shame this council. >> oh this is ridiculous. all right. well i will look into that a bit more actually. but today's greatest britain is nhs england. it's the puberty blockers being blocked story. i do really think that andrew doyle gb news deserves doyle here at gb news deserves quite for his quite a lot of credit for his tireless work. >> channel brave enough raise >> channel brave enough to raise this? yeah, exactly. >> expose that. so well done. >> to expose that. so well done. all union jackass . >> to expose that. so well done. all union jackass. nana. all right, union jackass. nana. >> it's got to be diane abbott. i think she's a complete

embarrassment. so that's the embarrassment. so that's why the black particular, black people in particular, me. so , not well, short and sweet. >> there we go. jonathan, work. well because he seems to want to bnng well because he seems to want to bring the church of england bring down the church of england whilst to be whilst also allowing there to be a a conveyor belt a conveyor belt, a conveyor belt of asylum claims of fake asylum claims going through that through the parishes that he's meant overseeing. he's meant to be overseeing. he's a dereliction of duty. needs to dereliction of duty. he needs to go. right. go. all right. >> okay. obviously, they, have denied initially, but denied things initially, but then launch an then have decided to launch an inquiry , andy. then have decided to launch an inq amy, andy. then have decided to launch an inq amy, and' racist, misogynist >> amy, the racist, misogynist tory frank hester. tory donor. frank hester. >> right. okay, so a variety of different views here, the, the winner of today's union jackass is justin welby, okay? because as you saw. and i would urge you to go back and rewatch this if you missed it at the top of the 10:00 hour, we did a piece with matthew firth, who has blown the lid off this alleged asylum seeker conveyor belt that appears to going on in the appears to be going on in the church of england. thank you very my wonderful panel very much to my wonderful panel this you. thank this evening. thank you. thank you, headliners up you, thank you, headliners is up next. so they will be picking their way through all of the news. thank you very much to

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staying in double figures as we go through tomorrow itself. then this band of does gradually this band of rain does gradually push its way a little bit further in eastwards, further south in eastwards, but doesn't make progress. so doesn't make much progress. so it to linger and bring it is going to linger and bring quite a bit rain across quite a bit of rain across northern england and some parts of two a drier of north wales. two a drier story further south, the limited bright or sunny spells here, but temperatures rising to highs of around 15 celsius. windy for most us, the strongest most of us, but the strongest winds will be across northwest scotland, where there's the risk of also some of gales. but also some sunshine. we go into thursday sunshine. as we go into thursday and staying mostly dry and again staying mostly dry towards the southeast. but elsewhere there will be quite a bit of rain around, outbreaks of rain feeding up from the southwest across many places, with persistent with a band of more persistent rain northern and rain across northern ireland and scotland northwards. rain across northern ireland and scotlandto northwards. rain across northern ireland and scotlandto come northwards. rain across northern ireland and scotlandto come as rthwards. rain across northern ireland and scotlandto come as we vards. rain across northern ireland and scotlandto come as we gois. rain across northern ireland and scotlandto come as we go through showers to come as we go through friday. some of them could be heavy and then saturday is likely to turn wet again. i'll see again bye bye. see you again soon. bye bye. >> warm feeling inside from >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers, sponsors of weather on gb news is

i >> -- >> it's 11:00. lam >> it's11:00. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb news room. your top story this hour. failed asylum seekers will be paid £3,000 to move to rwanda under a new voluntary government scheme to clear the migrant backlog. the agreement with rwanda is designed to remove migrants who have no legal right to stay in the uk, but cannot be returned

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