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primary wins overnight and in the sport. >> this morning, on a nervy night in north london, david rayais night in north london, david raya is the hero as arsenal scrape past porto on penalties . scrape past porto on penalties. novak djokovic loses to the world number 123, and the darts player banned for punching his opponent. >> good morning. they'll be very heavy rain across northwestern areas through the next few days, but elsewhere it will be very mild. find out all the details with me a little later. mild. find out all the details with me a little later . on. with me a little later. on. >> right. racist and wrong. prime minister didn't say that, but a spokesperson did after he's branded the comments made by a major tory party donor about the first woman black mp, diane abbott. over night. the comments came from frank hester. >> yeah, and he is one of the

party's biggest donors. he gave £10 million to the conservatives, and he told a meeting that diane abbott should be shot and made him want to hate all black women. he has since apologised . since apologised. >> however, it's the lack of immediate condemnation of his remarks which are now causing the prime minister a political headache. the prime minister a political headache . let's go to james headache. let's go to james price, who joins us now. he's former chief of staff to nadhim zahawi, james, this is the whole thing. what has taken the prime minister? what does he need a spokesperson to say this? well i think that these stories come along and they blow out of the water. >> the kind of carefully crafted government grid, the kind of narrative, the things the government would like to be talking about on the day , and, talking about on the day, and, you know, he is the prime minister of a major nuclear world economic power. and one would that he's got other would hope that he's got other things. on, on the things. he has to do on, on the set a week to, to get things set of a week to, to get things going again. obviously everybody, it's stupid everybody, you know, it's stupid and to have said and unpleasant to have said these things. there was this, was or was it just was it racist or was it just unwise? right? i think probably not. the best person

not. i'm not the best person place to i wouldn't have place to say i wouldn't have said these things. sure this said these things. i'm sure this chap , thinking back, wouldn't chap, thinking back, wouldn't have wanted to have said any of this stuff. >> yeah, but wait a minute, well, doddie aid whatever. if i was minister, i would was the prime minister, i would immediately was immediately know if this was right wrong . it's obviously right or wrong. it's obviously wrong. i know why the man wrong. i don't know why the man isn't i need isn't saying it. why i need someone say it him, someone else to say it for him, how much of it's got to do with £10 million? you look like having back. having to hand back. >> i think that that's. >> yeah, i think that that's. that nub of it, doesn't that gets the nub of it, doesn't it? although it seem a very it? although it does seem a very odd for this guy to odd punishment for this guy to have said something stupid. and what get in return? he what does he get in return? he gets million back. gets his £10 million back. >> true. but i mean, >> that's true. but i mean, look, me, this smells of look, to me, what this smells of is from the prime is weakness from the prime minister. he was quite minister. and he was quite clearly pushed a corner by clearly pushed into a corner by kemi who came out and kemi badenoch, who came out and called it said, this is called it and said, this is racist, call a spade racist, let's call a spade a spade. william hague, former conservative also conservative party leader, also saying and took the saying that. and it took the prime minister following on from what to what they were saying, to actually his position. actually change his position. and good look. and that's not a good look. >> yeah, i think it certainly speaks very of kemi speaks very well of kemi badenoch she's able

badenoch that she's able just to come say, just come out and as you say, just just these things straight. just set these things straight. and had these sorts of and she's had these sorts of issues in her previous brief, she to be the woman in she used to be the woman in equalities minister as well. so she's of quite well placed she's kind of quite well placed to these things. i like to work on these things. i like to work on these things. i like to that to think that perhaps that there's of there's just a level of reticence to into these reticence to wade into these sorts issues because people sorts of issues because people are so desperate not to say the wrong and trouble. wrong thing and get in trouble. i think it's just a i don't think that it's just a case they want well, case that they want to. well, you could hardly say the wrong thing. >> there's only the right thing to say. >> no, you stand to say. » no, you to say. >> no, you stand on the >> no, you can't stand on the steps of number 10 and say you want highest standards of want the highest standards of decency your cabinet, and decency within your cabinet, and then something wrong, then just call something wrong, but why. you've got the but not say why. you've got the time space say time and space to say something's wrong, but can't something's wrong, but you can't admit what it's wrong, what the grievance it's grievance is. it's just it's unacceptable. he did that. he got in the end. but is it got there in the end. but is it too late for him? i mean, we've heard about this emergency meeting 1922 committee meeting with the 1922 committee behind closed doors. he's in a very difficult position, rishi sunak. ice, isn't sunak. he's on thin ice, isn't he? >> i wouldn't envy him in this position right now. it just seems one more difficult seems it's one more difficult thing after another. thing after after another. i think that the problem

think that maybe the problem he's particular case he's got in this particular case is you we're so used is that, you know, we're so used to culture now, to cancel culture now, right? someone something someone says something from a long time i think these long time ago. i think these comments were five years ago. well, the world's quite well, the world's changed quite a in five years. stupid a lot even in five years. stupid things who's things that this guy who's a super businessman super successful businessman employs his whole employs lots of people his whole life be ruined by this issue. life to be ruined by this issue. now, i think it was kemi badenoch should badenoch that said, there should be grace period now. be a kind of grace period now. and is things like and you know, it is things like forgiveness that has made the modern world. and hope modern world. and let's hope that rishi can now get back to focusing on massive do list. >> so i can't h- >> so i can't see what your grace period is saying. it makes you want hate all black women you want to hate all black women or this woman. i don't or shoot this woman. i don't really that was. it really see how that was. it wasn't bad that five wasn't so bad to say that five years ago. don't get that mate. >> no, i think that's a fair point. but i think you point. but i think that, you know, what the context of know, what is the context of this? he trying be, this? was he trying to be, i don't know, one of the lads in a meeting and sort of go on like that and try and think, oh, isn't this funny? i'm trying to get a bit of banter, you know, he's successful software he's a successful software company engineer, maybe not known humour, known for their sense of humour, but know, how many people

but you know, how many people from diverse backgrounds rishi sunak amongst them? >> have >> you know, yesterday must have been if the been asking themselves if the government going call government are not going to call out racism, then what does that say my status in this say about my status in this country, in society, people have been in who serve been born in britain who serve like rishi sunak serving his country, people are afraid country, but people are afraid to call, you know, it's just such a bad message to be sending out. yeah, i think that's fair. >> you know, my old boss, you mentioned nadhim zahawi born in baghdad, came over here when he was years fleeing was nine years old, fleeing saddam hussein's squads, saddam hussein's death squads, subject kinds of subject of all kinds of horrendous but i think, horrendous abuse. but i think, you again, we sight you know, again, we lose sight of real problems of what are the real problems here is this guy here in society. is it this guy saying stupid things? it's saying these stupid things? it's not most awful crime not the most awful race crime that's happened . when you that's ever happened. when you look at diane abbott, of look at diane abbott, some of the things she's come out the things that she's come out and you know, chairman and said, you know, chairman mao, more good mao, on balance, did more good than the man was than harm. the man was responsible for the deaths of more people in human more people than anyone in human history. kind history. and his kind of communist she's communist ideology. she's currently the labour currently not got the labour whip said that whip because she said that jewish roma people jewish people and roma people can't themselves. can't suffer racism themselves. so, almost a way so, you know, it's almost a way of of being able to

of kind of her being able to dodge this now. well know, dodge this now. well you know, two have been killed in the two mps have been killed in the past five years, you know, murdered in past years. murdered in the past five years. >> still think it's a >> so i just still think it's a it's a no go, completely taboo area. me ask you area. but let me ask you something else, james, £10 million. does the million. where does the conservative party come up with £10 million? it's okay. people saying hand this money back. could they do that? could they actually do that? would have their access to would they have their access to £10 million? well, i think people always get this. >> the scale of money in british politics is always massively overestimated. right? this is the biggest donation that the tories have ever had. the labour party, bankrolled by the trade unions. but the amount of money in british politics is really small fry, and i've been there on the inside. the amount of influence that it gets you is wonderfully, influence that it gets you is wonde|you're going to small. you're going to talk about the american election coming billions of coming up soon. it's billions of dollars they get spent on that. and they have real influence in these things. in britain, these things. but in britain, wonderfully, you only spend wonderfully, you can only spend what, in an election what, 12 grand in an election campaign per constituency. i think really lucky that we think we're really lucky that we don't have that kind of, money

influencing politics. >> despite >> so you don't think despite the don't think sunak the calls, you don't think sunak or the tories would be able to put their hands in the till and say, look, okay, have this £10 million back? >> well, i think that the prime minister personally could probably fill the stop gap should he need i think his should he need to. i think his wealth has been fairly widely reported, but i think, you reported, but i do think, you know, is money. at the end know, this is money. at the end of day, that's going to go of the day, that's going to go on just the salaries of on just paying the salaries of ordinary people inside the conservative who believe conservative party who believe in of tories in the missions of the tories and these of things and all these sorts of things coming the election. coming into the election. so that back to line that money to go back to line the of a guy who's the pockets of a guy who's already quite rich at the expense of, frankly, of people's jobs the election, jobs going into the election, you i that perhaps you know, i think that perhaps the punishment is the guy punishment enough is being by the being kind of castigated by the world's and if he world's media for now. and if he gets money back as well, he gets his money back as well, he could just take himself on a nice holiday rather it be spent on to fight the labour on trying to fight the labour party concerned, party as far as i'm concerned, let's about the post let's talk about the post office, we? office, shall we? >> government putting >> the government putting through emergency legislation to exonerate the wrongfully convicted hugely welcome news. slight concern that a couple of people through

people might slip through the net guilty of net who are actually guilty of crimes and could be exonerated, but on the balance, this is but on on the balance, this is this is a good move. >> absolutely. you're >> yeah, absolutely. if you're the subpostmaster the one, the one subpostmaster who things, you've who was stealing things, you've got thinking, oh, how did got to be thinking, oh, how did i get away with this now? but no, you're completely right. by and it shows as well and large. what it shows as well is enough is that when there's enough pressure that pressure on something that parliament act. parliament can actually act. we've you know, we've been seeing, you know, there's a huge amount of there's not a huge amount of legislation at the legislation being done at the moment. the of challenges moment. the scale of challenges that has. and, know, that britain has. and, you know, we don't see that the british state acting with the kind state is acting with the kind of speed and speed that it needs to, and it is upsetting that taken is upsetting that it's taken a television drama for this kind of injustice to be righted. >> but least it has been, and >> but at least it has been, and there's going to a small there's going to be a small amount of compensation out there's going to be a small an all1t of compensation out there's going to be a small an all of )f compensation out there's going to be a small an all of thoseipensation out there's going to be a small an all of those involved, out there's going to be a small anall of those involved, but out to all of those involved, but not what they're not anything like what they're owed. know, that's not owed. you know, that's not likely happen in likely to happen in this parliament, it? parliament, is it? >> i fear that's probably the case. but again, maybe this can set other set a precedent for when other scandals come along scandals like this come along again, people will actually scandals like this come along agilistened people will actually scandals like this come along agilistened to ople will actually scandals like this come along agilistened to and will actually scandals like this come along agilistened to and itill actually scandals like this come along agilistened to and it won'tjally scandals like this come along agilistened to and it won't take be listened to and it won't take mr bates versus the post office to get these kind of things going. we can't have government

being i think being done by this. and i think it another structural it just shows another structural weakness think is weakness with what i think is the real problem in the united kingdom the moment, is kingdom at the moment, which is that civil service is so that the civil service is so stuck the mud and not able stuck in the mud and not able to get we get anything done. we can't build infrastructure. we build any infrastructure. we can't we can't can't build any houses, we can't do of these things. and it do any of these things. and it takes television drama for us takes a television drama for us even to get justice for these poor postmasters. >> okay, james. thank you. interesting take on things, james, political james, as a political commentator, much commentator, thank you very much indeed. speak again later. thank you. you've got a view you. if you've got a view gbviews@gbnews.com. news gbviews@gbnews.com. other news coming into the newsroom this morning. this is what we've got for you. keir starmer has promised a vote on assisted dying if he wins the next election . speaking to dame election. speaking to dame esther recently esther rantzen, who recently revealed joined the revealed she's joined the assisted dying clinic dignitas, and admitted he's personally and he admitted he's personally in favour of changing the law for the couple arrested in connection with an investigation into a funeral home in hull, have both been bailed , a total have both been bailed, a total now of 35 bodies and what police have called a quantity of suspected human ashes have now been moved to another mortuary

after police received more than 1000 phone complaints from the public. >> we want to hear from you on this story. have you been affected? vaiews@gbnews.com >> a rematch between donald trump and joe biden is set as both passed the delegate threshold and secured the presumptive nominations for republicans and democrats overnight. the nominations will be made official come the summer at party conventions . the 81 at party conventions. the 81 year old president has said he's honoured voters backed his re—election despite questions over his age in recent weeks . so over his age in recent weeks. so apparently what joe biden is doing or going to do is to joke about his age in almost everything . so they've done a everything. so they've done a number of little sketches and they they laugh at this and whatever it is, which i think is appalling. >> yeah. it's not funny. >> yeah. it's not funny. >> i don't think it's funny.

>> i don't think it's funny. >> not a laughing matter. >> not a laughing matter. >> i think there's lots of people who are elderly and people who are very elderly and very and there are very sensible, and there are lots of people who aren't, and you're either one or the other, and you can't just say, oh, deary i didn't press deary me, i didn't mean to press that just had that button because i just had a moment whatever it was, but moment or whatever it was, but it looks like, you know, he's going to get away with it. >> think age is going to be >> i think age is going to be the big of this election. the big story of this election. not only are both candidates in their i think their late 70s, i think one of them's going 80 by the them's going to be 80 by the time november comes around. but also the age of the electorate. i was reading weekend, i was reading over the weekend, something like 25 million americans since 2016, americans have died since 2016, when trump was first elected. and how has that shifted the demographic as a younger cohort of people have come through, who are they more likely support are they more likely to support of parties? and i do of the two parties? and i do think that age is going to be the big of 2024. the big story of 2024. >> it's so much age as >> it's not so much age as capability. that's that's the thing. the age doesn't worry me . thing. the age doesn't worry me. it's how capable they are. and biden certainly does not look capable. gb views the

gbnews.com. >> we're focusing on russia now . >> we're focusing on russia now. they've quelled an attempted attack from some rogue russian soldiers. quite an interesting story. >> this, they were volunteers, and they are based in ukraine. and they drove tanks and armoured vehicles across the border. this is the biggest cross—border incursion since the war began. >> well, the raid comes as ukrainian drones struck key oil refineries, exacerbating a petrol crisis in russia that already exists . already exists. >> let's go to the defence editor of the evening standard, robert fox , to for him to cast robert fox, to for him to cast his his eye over all this. robert very good to see you, my friend. and i'm just trying to work out who these rebels are. how do they how did they come about ? are they ukrainian? are about? are they ukrainian? are they pro—ukrainian? are they just anti—russian ? just anti—russian? >> a bit of both. some of them are russians , it's very are russians, it's very difficult in those border areas to know quite, you know, who they would have identified

themselves as about ten years ago. but they're led by an element that are really , they element that are really, they they claim to be russians, but very anti. what is going on in russia. i think that this is really more propaganda value than military value. but it is, it is, it is worrying for the russians. and the russians are casting around for a lot of disruptive activities. they're being quite disruptive again in the middle east and not helpful over the crisis with the houthis. not helpful with the crisis over gaza as they extend their influence into russia, into the mediterranean. they're active in africa again. and they're messing around, it seems, in moldova, which is a very close to, of course, just off, ukraine. and it brings them into conflict again with nato . into conflict again with nato. they're messing around with a referendum in the transnistria region, which is which is ethnically russian , to, to

ethnically russian, to, to a large extent, everybody's holding their breath and really because they're wondering is now the russian spring offensive coming on its way? is it just days or maximum weeks away? and can the ukrainians withstand that, i suppose in all of this , that, i suppose in all of this, we have to ask if the death of navalny recently , plays any part navalny recently, plays any part in this perhaps emboldening some of the anti—putin feeling within russia or amongst russians, not least because there is an election, albeit not democratic, but another election which will see putin win. but there will be lots of talk at the moment about the future of the country . the future of the country. >> you're quite right. it comes, towards the end of the week. it's between the 15th and the 17th. it will be a coronation, i think it's the fifth or sixth. election so—called in inverted commas, that putin will have contested to lead the russian

people , isabel, the really people, isabel, the really interesting thing about it is how nervous , putin has been how nervous, putin has been about it. why did they need to deal with navalny at that point and to get all opposition, off the street? it is a big thing. he wants to make himself look good and not look strong. and i think by next week, after he's re coronated, i think we should put it as crudely as that. i think there will be a big a big statement because the big question is, yes, russia is getting ready for an offensive. but as , ukraine to an extent has but as, ukraine to an extent has been exhausted by its offensive of last year, which didn't work, it's very difficult to see how repeatedly russia could do this. the economy is booming on oil and defence, but that doesn't go on forever. and there are cracks somewhere. so i think we are in for a decisive few weeks. >> well, we've got an election this weekend or president putin's got an election this

this weekend. and how likely is it that, those voters in russia would know anything about this uprising, this rebellion that is going on? >> absolutely right. very little indeed. very little indeed. it would, of course, been excluded . would, of course, been excluded. and, i think that these elements will go on doing it. they're quite good at disruption. more important, i think, was the strike on the oil, petrol and oil refinery. they are getting drone attacks into russia. it is hitting, they say infrastructure actually it's hitting things that need to supply those forces at the front. they've got about 300,000 plus, committed to this fight in and around ukraine. and it needs a lot of support. and the one place where russia is not winning is on the waves in the black sea, where the ukrainians , with no navy to ukrainians, with no navy to speak of at all, is doing very well in bottling up the russian

black sea fleet, which means they can get they, the ukrainians can get the grain and exports out. but the real point is actually relates to your previous story, where america is going to be over this in the next few months, because ukraine, as we have seen, is becoming quite a big agenda issue in the us. the europeans have to prepare. this includes britain to sustain ukraine over a long period, with less help. not no help, but less help . not no help, but less help. let's be practical from the us. >> robert . appreciate your take >> robert. appreciate your take on things. we've got to leave it there. robert fox, defence editor at the evening standard now , if i remember correctly, now, if i remember correctly, this time yesterday, we're being told we might have a bit of a break in all of this drudgery and gloom and doom weather wise. >> you notice see if annie >> did you notice see if annie shuttleworth is sticking to her promises? here's today's forecast . forecast. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar for sponsors of weather on

gb news. >> good morning. welcome to your latest gb news weather update. heavy rain will persist across nonh heavy rain will persist across north and western areas through today and into thursday. in fact, whereas in the east it will be much drier, brighter and for everyone, it's going to be feeling much milder through the rest of the week. but very heavy rain will persist for parts of nonh rain will persist for parts of north wales, the lake district, southern as southern areas of scotland as well, dumfries well, particularly dumfries and galloway . seeing the of galloway. seeing the heaviest of the further north. it the rainfall further north. it should stay largely dry, apart from some very blustery showers . from some very blustery showers. it will be very windy across northern scotland. gale force winds expected, but the winds are expected, but in the south east it's going to be south and east it's going to be a dry afternoon. but a dry afternoon. breezy but still mild with highs of 15 still very mild with highs of 15 or 16 degrees. if we do see any breaks in the cloud through tonight, the rain is going to persist similar areas. so persist in similar areas. so today, very overcast today, very wet and overcast across north wales and many northern areas of england, particularly western particularly across western coasts here. and we will see some outbreaks of rain moving into southwest by thursday

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>> right well have a go. good luck to you paul coyte . arsenal luck to you paul coyte. arsenal had a goal on penalties last night. they did and they did rather well. >> they did and arsenal are through and penalties is first time in 14 years that they've managed to get through to this stage of the champions league. and the darts and we've also got the darts player, got this darts player, we've got this darts player, we've got this darts player, eamonn who who punched someone really someone after a game really doesn't like to lose. >> yesterday it was a headbutt. today it's a punch. >> sport is getting very >> the sport is getting very violent, into politics. violent, turning into politics. it . it to be it really is. it has to be a warning whenever i talk about the but we'll that

just, you know, today, sports wise , the newspaper is full of wise, the newspaper is full of pictures, not of horses, but of, ladies in fashion . ladies in fashion. >> fomo. >> fomo. >> because it would have been very, very difficult. so it

would have been yesterday. weather the rain. >> we should dig out our pictures of outfits the pictures of our outfits in the rain the couple of years. rain the last couple of years. yeah, had some wetter. yeah, we've had some wetter. >> was trips. rain, >> it was just trips. rain, rain, rain, rain, rain, rain, rain, rain, rain, rain, rain, rain, rain, rain, rain, rain, rain, rain, rain. go to spain. >> did you have one of those plastic on that plastic yellow top hat on that day, you? was that when day, didn't you? was that when you had the. no. it was the other one. >> trilby style, right? >> trilby style, right? >> country of course, isn't there when rains. there when it rains. >> ascot. they have like nappies. plastic things go over the top. have you seen those. >> have seen this. >> oh yeah, i have seen this. they're not like nappies. they're not like nappies. they're the granny. granny they're like the granny. granny things. >> p- w— w yeah yeah. but it >> yeah yeah yeah yeah. but it just hat dry. yeah. >> you know what i mean. like the, you know how granny's put head over heads and head shawls over their heads and tie up. tie them up. >> you get a plastic one of those. but actually, if you're wearing a proper headpiece, you can't one of those on. can't put one of those on. right. >> there's a lovely >> well, there's a lovely picture the front of telegraph. >> got a very russian >> oh, she's got a very russian style hat. style sort of furry hat. >> all that. that's one big furry hat. but you know what? >> if it rained, can you imagine how it'd be how that would smell? it'd be like dog. wouldn't it be like a wet dog. wouldn't it be terrible? do you do for it? do

>> what do you do for it? do with it for year? with it for a year? >> i know you have to put it in front of you. >> ever wear that again? but she's beautiful she's a very beautiful woman. very, but very, very good. but interesting, about interesting, just just about the racing it and racing and whatever it is. and i know we're going talk to our know we're going to talk to our friend again. and 7:20, friend again. and at 7:20, ladies has a listen to this. ladies day has a listen to this. go on. okay. ladies day has a gender the gender neutral rebrand of the centuries old tradition to become wednesday are become style wednesday are a green focussed award has been launched to celebrate slow fashion. slow fashion. isabella's old outfits are ones put together from charity shops or online resellers on board with. >> but i don't see why you have to take the ladies out will also be judged on their attire . be judged on their attire. >> oh dear, now they all try too much. >> let us have our moment. >> let us have our moment. >> yes, yes, let us have moment. >> just dress up and look nice. if you want to fashion slow. >> fashion is a good concept because we us tend because we all us girls do tend to things once and never to wear things once and never again. that's a shame. again. and that's a shame. >> it's style wednesday. >> well, it's style wednesday. but about you, but but i don't know about you, but i is every i find that every day is every day with you two. >> frankly. did arsenal do >> quite frankly. did arsenal do it in style last night against

porto, or did they do it in style? >> yeah they were, they were certainly better than porto were. porto, they're were. but porto, they're a wily old know, someone like old team, you know, someone like pepe, who's 40, who's still playing, who's still amazing , playing, who's still amazing, just, just they really frustrated the martin odegaard. they're scored in the in the second half. but that was one one on aggregate. yeah yeah. but then one one and then he scored which was then disallowed . 14 which was then disallowed. 14 years since there's captain black there . 14 years since the black there. 14 years since the last champions league qualification into the quarter final. they lost the last seven that they've been at this stage. asked and the last time they did win was strangely against porto. a funny old game. it is it is a funny old. and then they play porto again. it is and it was also first champion. now also the first champion. now this interesting the this is an interesting one. the first champions league penalty shoot out for eight years in all of the champions league there's been no penalty shoot outs at all. >> well, you don't look amazed as i am. well, i'll tell you why. my friend. the champions league, i said all time

league, i said all the time until it gets to knockout stages, quite a dull stages, is quite a dull competition. i don't like competition. yeah, i don't like watching . i don't, maybe watching it. i don't, maybe because man united don't feature in much as they used to, in it as much as they used to, but, i'm not i'm not keen. in it as much as they used to, but, i'm not i'm not keen . i'm but, i'm not i'm not keen. i'm not. i'm not a huge fan. >> well, we're going to get on to that because they're talking about the change for next year because know, it's a 36 because, you know, it's a 36 team league and it's team champions league and it's going to be done like a league. so the whole point of it is that there won't be any dead rubbers. so we're not going to get the so we're not going to get to the end of because then you're end of it because then you're going get seeded. teams going to get seeded. teams will then go knockout stage. then go into the knockout stage. it's you i could it's also, you know, i could go through could see your through it, but i could see your eyes glaze over because eyes would glaze over because i know minutes. know what it's all two minutes. but idea is that it's but the whole idea is that it's not. it's to a bit more competitive. >> no, the whole idea is that more will get more for more teams will get more for money longer. that's whole money longer. that's the whole idea. the bottom >> that's usually the bottom line. yes, it's about the cash. >> it's about cash . >> yeah, it's about the cash. >> yeah, it's about the cash. >> but make it more >> but but to make it more interesting then when you get seeded teams, the top four teams, when it goes to the knockout can't meet until the

semi—final, which yes, would knockout can't meet until the semi—ficash,/hich yes, would knockout can't meet until the semi—ficash, but] yes, would knockout can't meet until the semi—ficash, but also, would knockout can't meet until the semi—ficash, but also, vrwilll involve cash, but also it will make it more interesting for others as well. >> are you with us? >> are you with us? >> just by the skin of my teeth? yeah. >> okay. >> okay. >> but you know, it's not my forte that was when i said the word arsenal. >> that's i started losing you. >> that's why the fa cup is still the best competition still the best cup competition there is. no. >> that is i from a >> that is true. i from a layman's perspective, i've got to with that. layman's perspective, i've got to i with that. layman's perspective, i've got to i witbutiat. layman's perspective, i've got to i witbut friday is >> i agree, but friday is when the draw to be made. so the draw is going to be made. so already there along with arsenal. things going arsenal. see things are going to get tricky. you got get tricky. now you got barcelona real madrid, psg, bayern manchester bayern munich, manchester city, you've got atletico, inter milan, borussia dortmund and psv eindhoven . tonight. eindhoven. play tonight. >> see i'm here for, to >> you see all i'm here for, to be paul is the punch up. be honest, paul is the punch up. oh i want hear about all you oh i want to hear about all you want hear. want to hear. >> well yeah i've got all the cheltenham you want cheltenham everything. you want to the punch. to go straight to the punch. >> have to do that >> maybe we'll have to do that next we've got next time. we've only got a minute you've teased us minute and you've teased us about punch up. so i'm about this punch up. so i'm dying to hear darts. >> have a look this. this is, >> have a look at this. this is, this is a player is this is a player who is a professional smith. neil. professional adam smith. neil. now, throwing darts now, there's him throwing darts right ? >> right? >> right? >> right. no problem. it's an amateur. >> it's warming up here.

>> it's warming up here. >> amateur. this is a game >> amateur. no, this is a game amateur in nuneaton last amateur event in nuneaton last week. right. he's the week. right, right. he's the world 8 in there's world number 8 in 82. there's his opponent. going his opponent. yeah he's going for his double. everybody's just enjoying very enjoying it. it seems very friendly in the friendly football on in the background those background for those not interested. there are. interested. now there we are. thanks no go and have thanks very much. no go and have a look. there should be a look. look. so there should be warning. watch him. and warning. don't watch him. and he's what's that he's like gordon what's all that about? he's like gordon what's all that abowhat's all about? >> what's that all about? >> what's that all about? >> i have to say oh my >> well i have to say oh my goodness. and then it starts with else. it's all with someone else. it's all a bit argy bargy. bit of argy bargy. >> the pro and he should be >> he's the pro and he should be like done. shake his hand. like well done. shake his hand. but obviously but he was obviously very unhappy he but he was obviously very unh since he but he was obviously very unh since surprise, he but he was obviously very unh since surprise, surprise he has since surprise, surprise been suspended by the darts organisation. you can't. >> you notice the person he >> did you notice the person he punched went straight to get his darts? very wise move. >> i don't know whether it's thinking keep the pointy thinking i'll keep the pointy darts with me. >> i mean, to get his self—defence weapon . self—defence weapon. >> oh, okay. >> oh, okay. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> also the way the bouncer, >> and also the way the bouncer, who cut. who was really quite cut. >> yes. >> yes. >> managed to call a on all >> managed to call a day on all of but as you gasp there of that, but as you gasp there with the punch , there's nothing sexy. >> lovely , smooth about

>> lovely, smooth about fighting. it'sjust >> lovely, smooth about fighting. it's just horrible. can we show it again just to see the punch? >> i can't even watch wrestling. boxing i mean i can just about manage rugby, but that's because no one wrestling. yeah it's pantomime, but i don't. yeah, i hate to see. >> just watch this. but as you say, the actual punch there's nothing glamorous about it really. >> oh, it's awful funny how the guy doesn't retaliate. he just goes to get his darts, him i >> -- >> so there we are. >> so there we are. >> there he goes. >> there he goes. >> you win the double here is he i >> -- >> yeah. that's it. there we are. >> got his double shake hands the wallop for good. the shake wallop just for good. and his darts. and he gets his darts. >> gets his darts out. >> gets his darts out. >> well he did well then here comes the bouncer and gives him a of what for. a bit of what for. >> walks away from it. >> walks away from it. >> oh well. nasty piece of work on radio. on the radio. >> we'll do that's online >> we'll do that. that's online for you can have a look for you. so you can have a look at that. >> well next time round >> yeah. well next time round we're to talking horses we're going to be talking horses and going to be talking and we're going to be talking balls with emma raducanu. and if she enough to she hasn't got enough to worry about the talking about she's the one talking balls am i. >> is. >> she is. >> she is. >> she is literally not you. >> she is literally not you. >> is, she is this time 7:20. >> look forward to that one.

still to come. we'll be looking at pages and biggest at the front pages and biggest stories the day. norman stories of the day. norman baker and hoenderkamp. here on and renee hoenderkamp. here on breakfast with eamonn breakfast on gb news with eamonn and company. and isabel. love your company. after

the diane abbott controversy . the diane abbott controversy. let's start with that as we talk through the papers with norman baker and doctor renee hoenderkamp, with this. very good to see both of you, norman, what is there to say? my main concern about the. well, there's so many concerns, but, what takes sunak so long to issue a. hey, this is wrong, mr sponsor, shut your mouth or eat your words or whatever . and then he words or whatever. and then he says it through a spokesperson. that's what gets me. if you're going to say it, why don't you just say i said that ? just say i said that? >> i think, like many issues,

he's worried about upsetting his right wing. that's what it's about. so he wants be very about. so he wants to be very careful. he want in careful. he doesn't want he's in a position. he's a very vulnerable position. he's in position as a prime in a weak position as a prime minister he's warring party minister he's got warring party and to upset any and he doesn't want to upset any wing of it. >> kemi badenoch wasn't afraid to the wing. to upset the wing. >> she wasn't, and good for >> no she wasn't, and good for her. and she was her. and what she said was right. and only she right. and it was only after she spoke, number 10 spoke, of course, that number 10 was line. but was pulled into line. but actually, point of view, actually, from my point of view, the issue has not been the other issue has not been focussed from quote, focussed on from that quote, is the diane the suggestion that diane abbott, shot abbott, quote, should be shot unquote, with her two members of parliament killed ? yeah, really parliament killed? yeah, really quite shocking. >> someone who really is going to be upset that that you're criticising , that you're saying criticising, that you're saying this is scandalous. i mean, you know, i'm hearing what you're saying. i understand what you say. say that keep say. and you say that to keep the wing quiet. but so the right wing quiet. but so were wing going around were the right wing going around and mps, and saying, black mps, particularly the diane abbott's of this world, should shot. of this world, should be shot. no i think i don't think they're saying that, but i think that was a they're not they're not not saying they're not not saying that they're not coming saying this is coming out and saying this is bloom you can't out

bloom and you can't call out racism because worried racism because you're worried about a part your party. >> what does that say about that part of party? part of your party? >> afraid that's right. but >> i'm afraid that's right. but if i think there is a if you. but i think there is a racist right racist element within the right wing party, wing and the conservative party, i that. i have to say that. >> what do you think, then? >> and what do you think, then? renee? >> that's a load of >> i think that's a load of rubbish, be honest you. rubbish, to be honest with you. i mean, would be called on the i mean, i would be called on the right things i'm right of things and i'm certainly not racist. >> no. >> no, you're not. no. >> man has >> everything that this man has said abhorrent. said is absolutely abhorrent. all single bit. all of it. every single bit. >> why couldn't the prime >> so why couldn't the prime minister because minister say that? because i think he's a weak man who's think he's just a weak man who's hiding just doesn't how hiding who just doesn't know how to be a conviction. to stand up and be a conviction. prime find prime minister, i find it shocking well he is, you shocking as well that he is, you know, indian heritage, hindu know, of indian heritage, hindu surely has been a victim of racism himself during his life, and yet still can't find the gumption to call it out. >> i mean, he could have just shut this down, couldn't he? >> he could have just come out yesterday, said yesterday, you know, said everything say everything he needed to say about every perspective, about it from every perspective, from violence that don't from the violence that we don't need you know, need to hear, you know, suggested from anyone from the racism within it. i don't even think that sexist . i think it was that sexist. i think it was that sexist. i

think it was racist and it was violent and it was abhorrent. >> so sexist. >> so sexist. >> sexist, w— e sexist, yes. but >> yeah, a bit sexist, yes. but that black men. that isn't black men. >> was against black women. >> it was against black women. there was a sexist to there was a sexist element to it. yeah oh, dear. >> well, anyway, your views are very welcome on this one. keep them in. we'll deal with them coming in. we'll deal with those gb views at gb news. >> com renee. you've chosen a story that eamonn and i really want talk about and highlight want to talk about and highlight this is this this morning. and this is this funeral these thousand funeral scandal, these thousand grieving , either grieving relatives, either directly involved or worried that they are in some way involved or the remains of their loved ones are really harrowing. and i can't think of another story ever really. like it, tell us what the mail is saying. it's front page. i think of at least two of the newspapers this morning, and the sun. morning, the times and the sun. >> and seems like >> it is, and it seems like these the people. there was a young woman and a man his 40s young woman and a man in his 40s who running these three who were running these three funeral parlours . and it seems funeral parlours. and it seems that knows how that over time, lord knows how long people have been burying coffins that didn't coffins that possibly didn't have there . they've have anyone in there. they've been handed ashes that are not of relative and some of

of their relative and some of them have even had jewellery made ashes, because you made from the ashes, because you can yeah. can have a diamond made. yeah. and that person close to and to keep that person close to you is not of the person they believe. it is the most horrible crime. you have to question is it that these people have it money that these people have done this for? probably some weird thing, but at the weird power thing, but at the same time, grieving is actually and seeing somebody off, whether you bury them or have their ashes, is part of the process, the process that gives you closure. so these wounds have just been reopened for people who no idea. and now who have no idea. and now i imagine even if they're repatriated with the body of their loved one and go through it, they'll still live with the doubts about what they get. and i think this affects every undertaker in the land now, because the whole thing, norman is, it's given, you know, when someone passes come to us, we understand, trust , trust in us. understand, trust, trust in us. >> i was watching an advert for another funeral , undertakers another funeral, undertakers last night. this is nothing to do with them. but who knows if it has or not? because has it just turned into some sort of

conveyor belt business that it doesn't matter . it doesn't doesn't matter. it doesn't matter if it's selling baked beans or disposing of bodies here. just them in, get them here. just get them in, get them processed and off we go. >> i think the issue here is this is i agree with renee. this is horrific. but the issue here is horrific. but the issue here is that if people now no longer can undertakers as a can trust undertakers as a consequence of this story, that is that really my relative ? is is that really my relative? is that really my friend? are these his or her ashes? if they are starting to ask those questions, thatis starting to ask those questions, that is pretty horrific. and actually this is a very sensitive issue. i know back in my time as an mp, we had a particular controversy in my constituency where the council was headstones in was was testing headstones in cemeteries to make sure they didn't fall over and they knocked a whole lot over. i mean, the outrage that came out from that was enormous. was from that was enormous. it was the sensitive the the most sensitive issue for the council in years, i think council in 20 years, i think it's interesting. i think we were talking about this yesterday that particularly in contrast to my culture in ireland , where death is much

ireland, where death is much more revered or people are more sensitive to it, and they talk about it, they talk about it all the time and people die and are buned the time and people die and are buried within three days in ireland. so here it takes a month or so. there is renee and you will have seen this , you will have seen this, professionally as well. there's, there seems to be a different attitude, in england in particular about how death is, is handled . and i think i'm not is handled. and i think i'm not sure if that contributes to the fact that nobody cares. anyway, you stick the body in for here a month. who cares what happens to it after a month? >> i think that in the uk we don't tend to celebrate when somebody dies so much we don't have excuse me? where we have a week. excuse me? where we actually celebrate their life and we tend to be and their passing. we tend to be much more closed about talking about issue that about it. it's an issue that people difficult to people find difficult to traverse. so you're right, that also then brings a screen over it and allows something like this perhaps to happen. and it must never happen again. >> norman, latest >> absolutely. norman, latest twist in the rwanda story is now

the government's going to be offering £3,000 sweeteners for people to leave voluntarily . people to leave voluntarily. now, haven't we had huge arguments about pull factors and, you know, not wanting to, allow women through because that could be a pull factor. pregnant women and the like offering £3,000 is surely going to be a pull factor in this. >> well, i think it's a pull factor, but also it's just a i have to say, it's a bit of a joke in a sense. i mean, they're so desperate to get flights off to rwanda. they're trying everything get everything they can do to get these flights the off the these flights on the off the ground. now we're to ground. and now we're going to have where have voluntary flights where people they people are offered money they don't but if they don't have to go. but if they want go, they'll get some want to go, they'll get some money. so the government can say, a flight off say, hey, we've got a flight off to and they won't to rwanda. and what they won't say necessarily they won't say necessarily or they won't give to. it's the fact give attention to. it's the fact that a lot that there's a whole lot of pubuc that there's a whole lot of public paying public money gone into paying people the other issue is people to go. the other issue is slightly strange is that these are people who have been refused leave in this country, leave to stay in this country, but stay but shouldn't be allowed to stay regardless they regardless of whether they volunteer go . no, that's volunteer to go. no, that's true. but also they can't be returned their country

returned to their own country because from places because they come from places like are war like afghanistan, which are war torn. a sense, don't torn. so in a sense, i don't know but know these particular cases, but it that they're the it seems to me that they're the sort who probably sort of people who probably would qualify to be given status here because genuinely refugees. >> yeah. true. it's >> gosh, yeah. it's true. it's an point, isn't it? an interesting point, isn't it? that doesn't seem to make sense. i mean, we need more detail, but once it's our money. you once again, it's our money. you know, taxpayers money being thrown away hand over fist over a that's thrown away i >> -- >> you know, these people still have housed. they'll still have to be housed. they'll still have to be housed. they'll still have still have to be jailed. they still have to be jailed. they still have to be fed, whatever, whatever. and they're just saying, three grand whatever. and they're just sa'five three grand whatever. and they're just sa'five or three grand whatever. and they're just sa'five or whatever grand whatever. and they're just sa'five or whatever it'and whatever. and they're just sa'five or whatever it is,1 or five grand or whatever it is, take it and it'll be cheap for us. get take it. us. get out. take it. >> please go. >> please go. >> what's betting that >> what's the betting that people will take it? go away and then back again. then come back again. >> yeah then come back again. >> think yeah then come back again. >> think there yeah then come back again. >> think there are1 then come back again. >> think there are people >> i think there are people living the currently who living in the uk currently who would like £3,000 to go pay for a right . a nice holiday, right. >> oh dear. >> oh dear. >> let's talk about >> let's, let's talk about puberty blockers children puberty blockers like children story who to change gender story who want to change gender will be prescribed will no longer be prescribed this on the nhs for the first time in at least five years

since stonewall and mermaids infiltrated all of our care pathways, has since returned to the room, and we have put the safeguarding of children at the top of above ideology, because that's what was going on. >> all of the decent evidence thatis >> all of the decent evidence that is out there says that these children who have multiple things going on, they're depressed, they have autism, they have anxiety, they have adhd . all of these children, if adhd. all of these children, if left to through puberty , left to go through puberty, between 73 and 93% of them will settle quite happily with their biological sex. many of them will be gay, so they won't be convinced that actually they're not gay . they're just in the not gay. they're just in the wrong body. and that is going on. have watched it in my on. i have watched it in my practice, so this the best practice, so this is the best piece of news that you could get today. a as today. i think as a mother, as a doctor and as society leave our children alone . children alone. >> so you don't think you're extending any suffering that children like this may be going through already ? through already? >> well, all of the evidence shows eamonn that after transitioning and there's good

data recently from sweden and denmark. so before transitioning, these children are already disturbed mentally with all of their angst. after transitioning, they are seven times more likely to commit suicide, helping them change sex isn't working. what we need to do is help them get to the bottom of their demons. >> am i right thinking about >> am i right in thinking about 70% those who do change 70% of those who do change sex then it and to then regret it and want to change and the change back, and that the evidence is, you say, if they evidence is, as you say, if they can support and all help can get support and all the help they through those they need through those difficult teenage years, they they need through those diffi(wellaenage years, they they need through those diffi(well comee years, they they need through those diffi(well come outars, they they need through those diffi(well come outars, other side may well come out the other side and actually, well, most and think actually, well, most are my sex. are happy with my sex. >> of them will out >> most of them will come out the other what's worrying, the other side. what's worrying, however, is what the however, and this is what the pressure activists pressure groups and activists know if you get them on know is if you do get them on puberty 98% puberty blockers, 98% of them will take cross—sex will go on to take cross—sex hormones , cross—sex hormones hormones, cross—sex hormones that cause infertility damage your bones, cause pain. we've seen a seven point drop in iq in some studies when they've gone to on these hormones. these are not benign and already mermaids are out this morning saying this is a travesty . we must help our

is a travesty. we must help our children. they are not helping our children . this is helping our children. this is helping our children. this is helping our children. this is helping our children. and i applaud this . and long may it last. >> norman. table manners , >> norman. table manners, whatever table manners mean , my whatever table manners mean, my wife is particularly obsessed with table manners because she's got this hearing disorder where she. we're hearing is sensitised. so she will hear slurping, chomping, any she shouldn't be slurping or chomping at the table. >> eamonn. >> eamonn. >> maybe that's the problem. >> maybe that's the problem. >> believe i am. she hears. >> believe i am. but she hears. she it. she hears it. and she hears it. she hears it. and but but table table manners in in general, for instance, i don't believe the americans have table manners at all. i was brought up watching cowboy films and whatever, and they only ever eat with one fork. >> oh they do. that's perfectly true. my. dare say that my, my true. my. dare i say that my, my father in law and mother in law were were americans. and the way they eat is quite different to how i was brought up to. it was

one fork in the right hand. yeah, yeah. when i first saw them, i actually genuinely said , them, i actually genuinely said, trying to be helpful. oh. is there an issue with your left hand and actually, no, there was an issue with the left hand. that's the way eat. but that's the way they eat. but look, i table manners look, i mean, table manners generally, people to sit generally, if people were to sit in television in the sofa and watch television with takeaway, that's with a with a takeaway, that's fine. an issue about fine. it's not an issue about that. the issue, i think, that. but the issue, i think, is, of families is, first of all, families aren't eating together much aren't eating together as much as to. and i think the as they used to. and i think the idea a sitting around idea of a family sitting around at the same time having a meal is a thing do. is quite a good thing to do. it's and secondly, it's a unifying. and secondly, when the table when they do sit round the table together, ought to behave. together, they ought to behave. i in a particular way, i think in a particular way, i'm quite in this, quite old fashioned in this, you know, think know, i don't think it's appropriate to appropriate for someone to start eating meal everybody eating a meal before everybody else their food in front else has got their food in front of i couldn't agree more. of them. i couldn't agree more. >> example, especially >> for example, especially the person is still person who's cooking it is still on feet. on their feet. >> say this as somebody who's >> i say this as somebody who's usually and usually dishing up anyway, and nor to use mobile nor is it right to use mobile phones at the table. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> but you were talking >> but norman, you were talking about a takeaway, about eating a takeaway, watching whatever. watching tv and whatever. i absolutely agree with you. it's perfectly remember perfectly normal. but i remember in the 70s it was like a total

sin . if any of in the 70s it was like a total sin. if any of us in the 70s it was like a total sin . if any of us were to take a sin. if any of us were to take a meal, you just wouldn't have done it. you wouldn't have taken food to watch the television with. that just wasn't done. >> well, it depends what you're on. for my money, whether on. for my money, it's whether you're on own or whether you're on your own or whether you're on your own or whether you're of family. you're part of the family. clearly, the families at the table you should table eating a meal, you should be family. but if be with the family. but if you're just come back from work and take away, then and you want to take away, then what's wrong that what's what's wrong with that second point? >> n second point? >> i just want to >> second point? i just want to say about this, you look at say about this, when you look at if house and you if you go to a new house and you look showhome or whatever if you go to a new house and you lois, showhome or whatever if you go to a new house and you lois, they showhome or whatever if you go to a new house and you lois, they don't ome or whatever if you go to a new house and you lois, they don't have or whatever if you go to a new house and you lois, they don't have dining:ever it is, they don't have dining rooms anymore. right is rooms anymore. right that is regarded as superfluous, a luxury. people don't use. >> rather >> people would rather have a boot room or utility than boot room or a big utility than yes, a bigger, bigger sitting yes, or a bigger, bigger sitting room whatever, whatever room or whatever, whatever it happens room or whatever, whatever it hapbuts room or whatever, whatever it hapbut dining rooms are like if >> but dining rooms are like if you if there's any eating area, it's a bar in a kitchen. it's at a bar in a kitchen. >> but can i just make the point? eating off point? i don't like eating off a tray, food. or, you tray, balancing my food. or, you know, was a takeaway know, if there was a takeaway andifs know, if there was a takeaway and it's a night treat, and it's a saturday night treat, i'm my cushions, my i'm thinking my cushions, my carpet. at carpet. i'd much rather sit at a table there's a wooden table where there's a wooden floor and i can make a mess.

yeah. you know, i just don't. i don't get any pleasure from sitting tv. sitting in front of the tv. >> and, i i do think that >> and, i mean, i do think that we need to teach our children table manners because they will be the wide be going out into the wide world. and i agree you, world. and i agree with you, norman. start on norman. nobody should start on a table until everybody has their meal, mobile so meal, but also mobile phones. so i think it's difficult for parents when they're all working. a night working. so when we have a night in week where we're both in the week where we're both home, like night, did home, like last night, we did this, prepare, my daughter this, i prepare, my daughter sets the because daddy's sets the table because daddy's home i cook, she helps home early. i cook, she helps me. we then sit down me. we then all sit down together. nobody starts their meal all got our meal until we've all got our drinks. we each other drinks. and we cheers each other and a nice meal and and say, have a nice meal and mobile phones. what? my daughter doesn't have mobile phones anyway the anyway would never come near the table. also she's only five. table. but also she's only five. she gets and does a she sometimes gets up and does a handstand remind that handstand and we remind her that we're having dinner you need we're having dinner and you need to sit down, know? to come and sit down, you know? so it's good parenting. so i think it's good parenting. it enables people to go it also enables people to go over and over the day together, and that's children to that's good for children to connect parents. they connect with their parents. they actually to that. actually want to do that. a child would be chatting child would rather be chatting with parents sitting with its parents than sitting glued to screen. but parents glued to a screen. but parents often don't think that's the case. >> but you , yes, i agree with

>> but you, yes, i agree with you about a child may rather be doing one than the other. but the thing is, the child doesn't really know. it would rather be talking to the parent. >> so you have to it along. >> so you have to help it along. you know the right route. and our loves evenings our daughter loves our evenings where the table where we all set the table together. we up together. together. we clear up together. it's of teamwork. and it's just part of teamwork. and you have get back to you know, we have to get back to some parenting. i think we can't let screens children . let screens parent children. >> how daughter getting >> how is your daughter getting on knife and fork? on with knife and fork? because my six year old my recently six year old daughter still wants use her daughter still wants to use her fingers. probably american fingers. she's probably american . driving crazy. . it's driving me crazy. >> actually would like us >> mine actually would like us to she thinks she's probably. >> occasionally to >> occasionally we'll resort to mummy. any more. mummy. i don't want any more. and i shovel it in, it and then if i shovel it in, it goes in. oh, dear. we'll get there. >> what did you have for tea last night? >> so we had greek lemon chicken with potatoes and herbs, with roast potatoes and herbs, roasted courgettes and some broccoli. >> lovely . >> lovely. >> lovely. >> wouldn't mind coming to your house. that's quite good, yeah. >> organic. very good. >> organic. very good. >> we are. we are waiting on the, the government minister,

kevin hollinrake, and i believe he is ready. postal affairs minister , not quite ready. minister, not quite ready. >> so that's okay. we've got time for another story. in the meantime, should we talk about unemployment? well, let's let's go a story. oh, no. hang on. go to a story. oh, no. hang on. i'm trying of a story i'm trying to think of a story to get norman involved in. but you can join any of these, you can join in any of these, can't i'll join in, can't you? i'll join in, we'll talk unemployment. these talk about unemployment. these figures this figures came out around this time yesterday, and actually, it's to be it's under 20 fives seem to be significantly affected by these latest job figures or jobs. >> yes. according to ministers. >> yes. according to ministers. >> good to go. >> good to go. >> ministers also come back to that. >> apologies. >> apologies. >> yeah, kevin hollinrake, let's go to kevin hollinrake. big day for affairs minister for him. postal affairs minister . and mr holloway, morning . and mr holloway, good morning to . can you hear. can you to you. can you hear. can you hear us? okay. good wrongful post office convictions . post office convictions. >> things coming out a little bit, but i can do. okay. well, you you put your foot, you keep your finger on that. >> can you hear me? okay. >> can you hear me? okay. >> yeah, i'll keep a finger, if you don't mind aiming. >> good lad, so what >> good lad. good lad, so what is going to happen today with

the, postmasters ? the, postmasters? >> well, we're introducing legislation today, so we will. it means we'll quash convictions of hundreds of postmasters by july of this year, which has been long overdue, of course, but that will open the door to compensation for those people we hope to be start paying compensation to those people by august of this year. so a very important moment. it's an unprecedented parliamentary unprecedented in parliamentary history that we're quashing those convictions in this way. but absolutely right but it's absolutely the right thing to people have waited thing to do. people have waited far to have names far too long to have their names cleared and receive compensation. >> we're speaking to a number of those victims on the programme this morning who no doubt this morning who will no doubt be pleased to hear this be be pleased to hear this is finally happening. just reassure us. you know, there is chance us. you know, there is a chance that some convictions of people who are actually guilty of crimes now be exonerated crimes could now be exonerated as part of this sweep through of this emergency legislation . this emergency legislation. >> yeah, we're very clear about

that. >> yeah, we're very clear about that . you know, for us to go that. you know, for us to go through every, every case, every file, every every document would take years . we think. so that's take years. we think. so that's the. so we'd rather than do that. we think the right thing to do is to exonerate everybody. we know the vast majority of these people are innocent . so these people are innocent. so better to let, ten guilty person people go free, as we said, rather than one one innocent people be prosecuted and condemned. so it's the right thing to do, so, you know, we will put some mitigations in place. so to try and prevent people who are guilty and getting compensation or getting redress, but nevertheless , we do redress, but nevertheless, we do see that as a risk. but we think this is the least worst option. and it's right we move quickly. otherwise we'd take years to be exonerating these innocent people and to be compensating them. >> well, kevin, you used a word there quickly and i think in many political dilemmas, this is this is a big issue and it's an important issue. and we look at

this, these so—called racist remarks by the conservative donor towards diane abbott, which which have come to light. i just want to ask you, my friend, there there is a statement. it's from downing street, but it is not from the prime minister. why why is it not from the prime minister? i don't understand if he gets a spokesperson to speak on his behalf, why does he not just say this ? this is my view? >> well, i think if there's a spokesman for the prime minister, that is his view. i mean, i don't think he would contradict his own spokesperson. so i think you can take it that thatis so i think you can take it that that is his view. he said very clearly that what these these comments were racist and wrong , comments were racist and wrong, but also pointed out, quite rightly, that this is the most diverse cabinet in history. we are not a racist party. we don't condone those kind of racist, that kind of racist language , so that kind of racist language, so and the gentleman himself has apologised, but i think i say, i think you can take it from the factit

think you can take it from the fact it is his spokesman that those are the prime minister's clear views. >> i mean , you say his clear >> i mean, you say his clear views, it took him all day to come out with them. i can think of 10 million reasons why it took him so long, and he just looks incredibly weak. pipped to the post by badenoch, who the post by kemi badenoch, who wasn't call it out. wasn't afraid to call it out. >> well said. kemi was very clear in terms of how she regarded this language. i think it's very clear we shouldn't judge people, people's character, by their skin colour. it's wrong it's absolutely the wrong thing to say. it is a racist, racist language and we don't condone it at all. gentleman's at all. the gentleman's apologised i think we should apologised and i think we should we should move on from what was the wrong thing to say in a private conversation. >> well, you're moving on and there's so much to move on into. kevin and what would you say to other post office office officials who are waiting for deliberation on their particular cases and what lies ahead? what is your message as we move ahead on this ?

on this? >> well, my message is you've waited too long. we apologise for that. we apologise what's happened to you? but we are moving forward much more quickly in terms of paying compensation. the part of our the other part of our announcement today is that people the original people went through the original scheme . the horizon shortfall scheme. the horizon shortfall scheme. the horizon shortfall scheme getting a minimum of £75,000. >> so everybody who's got to say goodbye has been paid thus far. >> and some people , apologies to interrupt. >> we're out of time. kevin hollinrake appreciate it. thanks very much. the forecast . very much. here's the forecast. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> good morning. welcome to your latest gb news weather update. heavy rain at will persist across north and western areas through today and into thursday, in fact, whereas in the east it will be much drier, brighter and for everyone it's going to be feeling much milder through the rest the week. but very heavy rest of the week. but very heavy rain persist parts of

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you in the last few moments. and we're just hearing from the office for national statistics that grew in january up 0.2, that gdp grew in january up 0.2, which means we're out of recession, doesn't does recession, doesn't it? does that mean that we'll out? we'll mean that we'll find out? we'll do analysis on all of that. do some analysis on all of that. but be news and but this will be good news and very welcome, because it's been but this will be good news and veveryelcome, because it's been but this will be good news and v> where's liam halligan when you need him? right. >> okay, more on that as the program progresses. racist and wrong. that's spokesperson wrong. that's how spokesperson for the prime minister has branded the comments made by major conservative donor about the mp, diane abbott. she's the first black woman elected to parliament. >> while the comments from frank hester, a large donor to the conservative party, told a meeting that diane abbott should be shot and that she made him want to hate all black women, he has since apologised for his language, apparently , he's the language, apparently, he's the biggest ever donor to the conservative party. >> yeah , this is in the lack of >> yeah, this is in the lack of immediate condemnation of his remarks, which are now causing the prime minister a bit of a

headache. let's find out just how big that headache is. james price joins us now . political price joins us now. political commentator. what do you think, james, maybe not the biggest ever headache in the long to do list of britain's woes . although list of britain's woes. although it's great to hear that about the stats out of the gdp stats being out of recession , gdp at 0.2. it's not recession, gdp at 0.2. it's not exactly the 7.4% that ronald reagan united states reagan got the united states going in the 1980s, but we'll definitely take whatever we can get right now, look, you have to caveat this as the minister said just then, that this is obviously these are stupid things said, you things to have said, you know, whether things as whether these things count as racist, i think the way that racist, if i think the way that the law works is that if the person who's the victim thinks they were, then were. and they were, then they were. and diane come out and diane abbott has come out and said she said that, i wonder if she thinks that same way thinks that goes the same way for jewish people and irish for the jewish people and irish people that she can't be people that she said can't be the of racism. they were people that she said can't be the comments racism. they were people that she said can't be the comments thatm. they were people that she said can't be the comments that had hey were people that she said can't be the comments that had dianeere the comments that had diane abbott whip abbott lose the labour whip herself almost a year ago, it's just another unfortunate unforced error from the tories when, you know, we've got so many difficult things the country should really be

focusing on. yeah. >> and that a sign of >> and is that a sign of weakness from prime weakness from the prime minister? that, took minister? not only that, he took him. him so long say him. it took him so long to say what to say, that he what he wanted to say, that he was the post by was pipped to the post by someone openly looking, someone who's openly looking, possibly to take over from him after if he loses. after the election if he loses. and is kemi badenoch . and and that is kemi badenoch. and also fact that he's having also the fact that he's having these behind closed these meetings behind closed doors with sir graham brady of the powerful and the ever powerful and influential 1922 committee, who are responsible for moving prime ministers on when they've had enough. >> it's it's a big shopping >> it's a it's a big shopping list of task for rish, isn't it? is weakness ? i mean, i'd like is it weakness? i mean, i'd like to think that he's you know, he said the of downing to think that he's you know, he said thate of downing to think that he's you know, he said thate trying owning to think that he's you know, he said thate trying to ning to think that he's you know, he said thate trying to bring street that he's trying to bring accountability and decency and all . and i think all these things. and i think that's true on a personal level. maybe thought that he maybe he just thought that he could his office and could sit down in his office and work long list of work on this long list of problems productivity problems of our productivity problems of our productivity problems got in problems of the war we've got in europe of the energy problems that these that we're facing, all these difficult thought difficult things and thought that could leave this that he could just leave this thing to rumble out. thing to, to rumble out. unfortunately, things are unfortunately, these things are almost the case. it's almost never the case. it's almost never the case. it's almost better to head almost always better to head these off at the past, to these things off at the past, to use the of wild west

use the kind of wild west cliche, be to cliche, and then just be able to get with it. so this story get on with it. so this story wouldn't rumble but wouldn't rumble through. but i almost like idea that we almost like the idea that we could look, stupid, could just say, look, stupid, dumb, talk dumb, let's move on. let's talk about substantive. about something substantive. >> raises the >> but the well, it raises the question judgement, question about judgement, doesn't baker doesn't it? we had norman baker on former liberal on obviously former liberal democrat the democrat minister in the coalition the coalition government with the conservatives and he was saying that he couldn't call it racism or afraid to call it out or was afraid to call it out because he didn't want to alienate a of his party, alienate a wing of his party, who we, of course, saw embroiled in a racism row. weeks in a racism row. two weeks ago. do think fair? do you think that's fair? >> don't think so. at all. >> no, i don't think so. at all. i mean, i think that we'll talk about different wings the about different wings of the parties and all these things and phrases right wing, left phrases like right wing, left wing i'm wing get bandied around. i'm not sure they actually sure how much they actually mean, got some mean, because you've got some people right of the people on the right of the conservative party who are economically right wing, you know, believe in a small state and they're and pro—business. they're also the happen to the same people that happen to be, from ethnic minority backgrounds. so saying backgrounds. so you're saying that going also be that they're going to also be somehow racist for these things? no. old boss, very, very no. my old boss, very, very sound on economic issues. >> zahawi born >> nadhim zahawi zahawi born born in baghdad, came over here very, very sound on economic

issues, you know, loves britain, all these things. >> so these kind of labels don't really help anybody on these things. the minister things. and as the minister said, they're to be said, just they're to not be too much of a but it is the much of a toady, but it is the most diverse cabinet ever most diverse cabinet we've ever had. minister is had. the prime minister is a hindu from from an indian hindu man from from an indian background. idea background. you know, this idea that the conservative party is full just full of racists is just completely the completely for the know. >> people would say >> but many people would say that was all the more reason that was all the more reason that he should have it that he should have called it out swiftly. let's let's out swiftly. but let's let's park shall look, park that, shall we? look, we've talked on talked about the good news on the we back into the economy. we are back into growth, a small growth, albeit in a small percentage, 0.2% growth. don't percentage, 0.2% growth. i don't know means know if that actually means we're of recession. or does we're out of recession. or does it to a number of months it need to be a number of months in succession back now in succession and back out now we okay. well, the we are. okay. well, the chancellor said he was chancellor obviously said he was prepared us to go into prepared for us to go into recession it meant it recession if it meant that it would help tackle inflation. and as was short and as long as it was short and shallow. thinking shallow. so he'll be thinking this working well this is the plan. working well to extent, absolutely. to an extent, absolutely. >> that the bit that's >> i think that the bit that's frustrating these things, >> i think that the bit that's frus'obviously these things, >> i think that the bit that's frus'obviously therezse things, >> i think that the bit that's frus'obviously there was hings, >> i think that the bit that's frus'obviously there was hingliz and obviously there was the liz truss have truss time, which could have been was been so brilliant and was handled poorly and scared handled so, so poorly and scared markets of it. markets and all the rest of it. but you know, we i think

but we, you know, we i think it's undeniable that the british economy needs a lot of different reforms i think what economy needs a lot of different refornstaring i think what economy needs a lot of different reforn staring downik what economy needs a lot of different reforn staring down the hat economy needs a lot of different reforn staring down the barrel of we're staring down the barrel of is like what we saw in is something like what we saw in the 1970s, where you had inflation absolutely running away that was away trade union power that was really britain. and really controlling britain. and these into this kind of these turned into this kind of vicious cycle problems. vicious cycle of problems. i think we've got here think the problem we've got here now can't anything now is we can't get anything built. to get built. so difficult to get infrastructure going. so infrastructure going. it's so difficult businesses get difficult for businesses to get going. much going. there's so much regulation on one side of the ledger says we have to ledger that says we have to gold plate issues and diversity plate green issues and diversity issues all these things, and issues and all these things, and no really taking account of no one really taking account of what growth going what we need, some growth going to people are to pay for things. people are getting costs are always getting older, costs are always rising , but getting older, costs are always rising, but we're not doing that kind of business friendly environment outside environment now. we're outside the really could do, the eu that we really could do, and frankly, we really to and frankly, we really need to do for the schools and do to pay for the schools and hospitals care about hospitals that people care about so much. >> fascinating to your >> okay, fascinating to get your take. former chief take. james price, former chief of nadhim thank of staff to nadhim zahawi. thank you indeed. you very much indeed. >> time is 7:07. a very good >> the time is 7:07. a very good morning to you . the post office morning to you. the post office scandal. more on that today. the government will introduce a new bill set to overturn all

wrongful conditions in the scandal. the prime minister has said the bill will mark an important step in finally clearing the names of hundreds of wronged branch managers. >> well, joining us now is one of those victims. the former postmaster, christopher head. good morning you, good morning to you, christopher. i don't know what year you got your wrongful conviction, but this has been hanging over your head for an incredibly time , how incredibly long time, how pleased are you to see this legislation being brought forward today, which will overturn conviction ? overturn that conviction? >> yeah, i mean, i wasn't actually one of the ones convicted. i mean, i had, criminal investigation and also, a civil proceedings against me, obviously, i've been a long time campaigner, since i lost my office in 2015. and look , it's office in 2015. and look, it's just important that obviously this legislation is, you know, brought, brought before parliament and obviously passed before as , as before the summer recess as, as is the aim, because we have, you know, up to maybe 900 people with these convictions hanging over , and they need to be

over them, and they need to be able to rebuild their lives and move on and access the compensation that they are, that they deserve. >> how much faith do you >> and how much faith do you have that they will be getting the compensation that they deserve? i mean, the government have said, i think as soon as is it may, around 150,000 or so will be a apportioned to most of those victims. but obviously that doesn't come anywhere close to what a lot of people are owed are entitled to. >> yeah. i mean, obviously this is something that i've been campaigning for a long campaigning on for a very long time. obviously that's just the interim payment. you interim payment. they can, you know, take the £600,000 fixed sum award. but again, even that amount for a lot of people that, you know, people who've lost their homes, that they've lost their homes, that they've lost their business, they've had their business, that they've had their business, that they've had their you their reputations trashed, you know, some some people are no longer us not be longer with us that will not be adequate of to for adequate in terms of to for their recompense. and their financial recompense. and it's important that, you know, we that, you know, we make sure that, you know, these people that go down the full assessment to have full assessment route to have their assessed, their full damages assessed, that obviously given that obviously they're given adequate payments while adequate interim payments while that, is delivered. because i

said these people have been through so much and they're in such, perilous positions right how. >> now. >> it's a lot of people will look at today and they'll say , look at today and they'll say, well, that's good. this is the end of the matter. is it the end of the matter, i don't think so. i think it's maybe to be the beginning of the end, let's call it. i mean, i have actually said that many times since, i think 2019, when we had the last, had the case. like i said, the court case. so, like i said, it's start. we need get it's a start. we need to get them convictions quashed, get that to them. that money delivered to them. i know announcement know that in the announcement there going there is they're going to reassess plus claims reassess the 2000 plus claims that office already, that post office have already, gone through that compensation scheme and potentially topped them that's thing i >> -- >> give us an insight into your life and how it has changed. and i mean, what what do you do now? are you still a post office manager ? would you be allowed to manager? would you be allowed to be is the situation be and what is the situation with your life? >> i don't know whether >> i don't actually know whether i allowed to be or not. i would be allowed to be or not. that's actually that's pretty, pretty question. i mean, pretty good question. i mean, i ran the post office from when i was 18, the youngest postmaster

in the country back in 2006. and since 2015, obviously, i battled for five years with it, with, with over the civil with lawyers over the civil claim, and obviously when claim, and then obviously when that formally dropped, i'd that was formally dropped, i'd left the country originally because i couldn't find work in the uk because of everything that had then that had gone on, then i returned back to the uk, did some work there as well. and then i've campaigned, continuously ever since with my mp kit osborne. and so it's just been non—stop . i mean, if you, been non—stop. i mean, if you, if you see my email inbox and my sent box, it is just continuous, emails backwards and forwards to the compensation advisory board, to ministers, to mps to try and, you know, push everything forward so that everybody gets the that deserve. the justice that they deserve. >> this itv drama, how much >> and this itv drama, how much of a game changer was that ? of a game changer was that? >> it was huge. i mean, look, i think things were things were happening in the background, but this propelled this really propelled it to a new and i because new level. and i think because the general public could resonate understand resonate and understand the suffering only the suffering that not only the postmasters actually their postmasters but actually their families went through, and it just said , you know, like just said, you know, like a

light underneath all the political action that's gone on since. and it actually shows, i think, what can be done when there's public outrage and pressure on the politicians , pressure on the politicians, because things happen within days know we've been days when we know we've been waiting to waiting years for things to happen, it's been very happen, so it's been very, very important. we just need to important. and we just need to keep that pressure up to until this is over. >> good man. well, may it be over thank you much over soon. thank you very much indeed. very talking to you indeed. very good talking to you this we'll leave it this morning. we'll leave it there. at the time there. thank you. at the time now. 7:12. >> take a look >> let's take a look at some of the stories making the the other stories making the headunes the other stories making the headlines labour headlines today. and the labour leader, starmer, has leader, sir keir starmer, has promised a on assisted promised a vote on assisted dying party wins the next dying if his party wins the next election. he's been speaking to dame esther rantzen, who's recently revealed that she has joined dignitas , the assisted joined dignitas, the assisted dying clinic in switzerland. starmer admitted he's personally in favour of changing the law . in favour of changing the law. >> the man and woman arrested in connection into the investigation into a funeral home in hull have both been bailed. a total of 35 bodies and what police have called a

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growing . growing the economy. >> i got to park outside jeremy hunfs >> i got to park outside jeremy hunt's front door. >> that's very cool talk about parking tanks the lawn. parking your tanks on the lawn. >> well, see, it's >> yeah, well, you see, it's because of my disabilities. >> now you get perks with that, you get a blue, a blue pass. >> and so i was the only car in downing street. >> i like it. >> i like it. >> i like it. >> i had to nip out and take a picture of it. >> quite right. and where can we find this picture? >> oh, no. »- >> oh, no. >> on, let's get this >> come on, let's get this picture show this picture on on the show this morning. it's worthy. morning. i think it's worthy. it's james bond esque. it's very james bond esque. i mean, you talk about people confusing george confusing you with george clooney. very 007. don't clooney. this is very 007. don't roll eyes and i'll tell you what. >> i was looking for pictures this morning because we were talking about, the, the, the, the cheltenham being styled wednesday. yeah, and i was looking for pictures when we went. >> i've sent some to cooper this morning. >> oh. oh have you. oh you've got. oh we've got them. oh good. good good. because i couldn't find them on mine. >> it was very wet. >> it was very wet. >> you must have stolen a march day. look at us there.

day. oh look at us there. >> yeah, but wouldn't. >> yeah, but you wouldn't. honestly, folks, do want to honestly, folks, i do want to tell not believe how wet >> you would not believe how wet i delighted i i look, how delighted i am. >> yeah. didn't have to walk >> yeah. we didn't have to walk far the rain. really but that far in the rain. really but that was box was. was inside the box that was. that luckily. that was dry, luckily. >> both had picture as >> but we both had a picture as well, you know. >> well need find that >> well we need to find that very but no no no no. very nice but no no no no. somebody said oh i'll take it, i'll take it, i'll take it off, you know, and amount of you know, and the amount of people literally cannot take people who literally cannot take a i a camera on a phone. so i thought i had picture of it, thought i had a picture of it, but hadn't got a picture of but i hadn't got a picture of him. so they framed it, him. so they, they framed it, but didn't press the but they didn't press the button. but they didn't press the button disappointing. but they didn't press the button dirdo pointing. but they didn't press the button dirdo pointthink of my hat? >> what do you think of my hat? >> what do you think of my hat? >> think you. and >> i think it suits you. and i quite like a trilby on me as well. >> but you would have preferred if it drier. if it was drier. >> we would have preferred >> yeah, we would have preferred it but anyway, to it if it's drier. but anyway, to all of those going, send your all of those going, send us your frocks. what you're frocks. send us what you're wearing. not called ladies wearing. it's not called ladies day style day anymore. it's style wednesday. of which. wednesday. speaking of which. sorry, we're probably sorry, i know we're probably a bit time, yesterday bit short on time, but yesterday we video call you and i. we did a video call you and i. well, you know anyway, you well, you know me anyway, you were during were wearing your glasses during the actually thought the call, and i actually thought they think they really suit you. i think you them more. you should maybe wear them more. have thought about have you ever thought about

getting you getting some without any, you know, fashion glasses. know, just fashion glasses. >> glasses >> fashion glasses style. >> fashion glasses style. >> they you well. you know, >> they suit you well. you know, i do the miss moneypenny i could do the miss moneypenny or whatever. >> just a just a >> anyway. just a just a thought. anyone told thought. has anyone told you that before sukh glasses? >> w- p- >> has anybody told you how clean are? yeah. clean they are? yeah. >> filthy. want >> they're filthy. i didn't want to say this. >> just. >> just. >> someone needs do you favour. >> how does anybody. how do you do i mean, you know, we wear do it? i mean, you know, we wear makeup on her face. you touched your you your glasses. >> how does anyone do it? this is do it. because every >> how does anyone do it? this is we do it. because every >> how does anyone do it? this is we ddowniecause every >> how does anyone do it? this is we ddown your se every >> how does anyone do it? this is we ddown your glasses, time we put down your glasses, you like that. you put them down like that. that's dirty. yeah. that's how they get dirty. yeah. you need to put them lovingly like that. >> give e e e give a nice >> and then give them a nice huff in huff and a puff when they're in my or something. it's my pocket or something. it's just you touch the glass just when you touch the glass bit that's little glasses. anyway, you. there anyway, let me tell you. there we shuttleworth, she we go. annie shuttleworth, she has weather. has your weather. >> outlook with boxt >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> good morning. welcome to your latest gb news weather update . latest gb news weather update. heavy rain at will persist across north and western areas

through today and into thursday. in fact, whereas in the east it will be much drier, brighter and for everyone it's going to be feeling milder through the feeling much milder through the rest week. very heavy rest of the week. but very heavy rain persist for parts of rain will persist for parts of nonh rain will persist for parts of north wales, the lake district, southern scotland as southern areas of scotland as well, particularly dumfries and galloway, heaviest of galloway, seeing the heaviest of the rainfall further north. it should largely dry apart should stay largely dry apart from some very blustery showers. it be very windy across it will be very windy across northern scotland. gale force winds expected, in the winds are expected, but in the south east it's going to be south and east it's going to be a dry afternoon. breezy but still very mild with highs of 15 or 16 degrees. if we do see any breaks in the cloud through tonight, the rain is going to persist in areas, so it persist in similar areas, so it will very wet and overcast will stay very wet and overcast across north and across north wales and many northern england, northern areas of england, particularly across western coasts here. and we will see some of moving some outbreaks of rain moving into southwest by thursday into the southwest by thursday morning. stay morning. it should stay dry though. far north and in though. in the far north and in the southeast. and for everyone, it's another very it's going to be another very mild start to the day tomorrow. the rain will continue to push into northern areas, but it will

shift slowly but surely further north into the central belt. some northern areas of some more northern areas of scotland . seeing some rain later scotland. seeing some rain later on day, we'll continue to on in the day, we'll continue to see breaking out across see showers breaking out across southern areas of the southern areas of wales, the southwest well . these could southwest as well. these could turn quite heavy and blustery turn quite heavy and be blustery too, but again, the far southeast should stay dry and bright and we see highs of bright and we could see highs of 17 degrees that warm feeling 17 degrees by that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on . gb news. sponsors of weather on. gb news. >> been up for our monthly spnng >> been up for our monthly spring great british giveaway! this is a real goodie so , if this is a real goodie so, if you're not aware of it, or if you're not aware of it, or if you haven't just got around to entering, we would encourage you to think differently this morning. >> because you can earn >> yes, because you can earn one, two, three, four, £5,000. that's £12,345 free cash . that's £12,345 in tax free cash. here's how you could be the winner once. >> be a winner. >> be a winner. >> you've won £18,000. >> you've won £18,000. >> nick, i don't know what to say . say. >> enter a massive spring

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ban coaches from coming in. good idea. you say. but you say idea. if you say. but you say you're you're infirmed like me or you're 84 years of age and you can't go in coaches. no, but i could say i did say had a day out. >> no. >> no. >> but these beautiful little honey, sweet chocolate box cotswold villages which have tiny bridges over tiny tiny little bridges over tiny little brooks and babbling brooks. and then they have these thumping great coaches full of tourists. >> brings the tourists >> but that brings the tourists to keep the economy alive. >> well, just have to be >> well, they just have to be creative and think of better ways. minibuses or something, you know, smaller groups. >> that's like the way they won't big cruise ships won't allow big cruise ships into venice. >> right, things like that. >> so , what do you think about >> so, what do you think about this? and if you live in burton or if you want to visit burton does this, i would always pronounce it bourton on the water. >> just so you know , i was on my patch. >> i used to top of the west country. >> sit and pull up. you on every pronunciation. >> sorry. yeah. go on. economics >> sorry. yeah. go on. economics >> no, i know, i don't know why i say i don't know. >> you say economics, don't you,

envelope. envelope. potato, potato. >> there we are. bourton on the water. >> bourton on the. so anyway, so here's a story of a lady who would be dropped off. yeah. and she's nearly 90. yeah. dropped off in the outskirts of bourton on the water and we then have to walk for 30 minutes to get to the village centre. so that's an an all round walk of one hour. but it's nice. it is nice. it is. >> it's gorgeous . >> it's gorgeous. >> it's gorgeous. >> it's gorgeous. >> i do love it round there. okay, still to come, we're going to be talking about lily allen. she something quite she said something quite controversial yesterday. if you're will you're a mum, perhaps this will resonate she said her resonate with you. she said her kids her career. oh, kids wrecked her career. oh, dean kids wrecked her career. oh, dear. can have all? dear. can women have it all? we'll

next. eamonn was is showing me a picture of him and lily allen. there's no end to the pictures this morning. i want to i want to get that one on screen. we're going to get downing street up as well. was this or as well. was this before or after by

after she ruined her career by having children? after she ruined her career by havwell children? after she ruined her career by havwell , children? after she ruined her career by havwell , and hildren? after she ruined her career by havwell , and thaten? after she ruined her career by havwell , and that is? after she ruined her career by havwell , and that is the >> well, and that is the question because she's saying, you as a mum, you just you know, as a mum, you just can't have it. all. kids get in the way. so she's kicked off a whole debate week, heading whole debate this week, heading out notion that mums out at the notion that mums can't it. no. can't do it. no. >> see you're you're an >> you see you're you're an interesting one. >> ask me. i don't think >> don't ask me. i don't think women can have it all. put it out there. i think it's really hard. anyway in a discussion on the radio times podcast, allen admitted children had admitted having children had ruined star potential. ruined her pop star potential. let's talk about this with parenting specialist roman norris, who thinks they can't and mother of two and full time worker kirsty kettle, thinks worker kirsty kettle, who thinks they very welcome to they can. a very warm welcome to you and you know, my you both. and you know, i'm my opinion is kind of irrelevant, really. much more interested really. i'm much more interested to why , kirsty, you think to hear why, kirsty, you think that parents can it all and that parents can have it all and that parents can have it all and that lily allen is wrong. by parents i mean mothers. firstly hi. >> firstly, i think that, you know, blaming a kid for her career ending is quite harsh. quite agree. i don't think i don't think our kids need that guilt that her mum didn't carry their mum didn't carry on her

p0p their mum didn't carry on her pop career because of them. but i feel that women yes, you i also feel that women yes, you can it all, in the sense of can have it all, in the sense of having a career and having a family. but you need things in place to enable to have place to enable you to have that. obviously our that. and obviously our childcare completely childcare system is completely up.the childcare system is completely up. the swanee, shall we say, at the moment, it's stopping lot the moment, it's stopping a lot of back to work, of women getting back to work, flexible happening flexible working isn't happening for women, and keeping for many women, and it's keeping them workplace. but them out of the workplace. but equally , there are a lot of equally, there are a lot of women who run their own businesses who are very businesses now who are very successful, are finding ways successful, who are finding ways around are of around that. there are a lot of dads now on parental dads now taking on parental responsibilities. dads now taking on parental res hour'silities. dads now taking on parental res hour's time. dads now taking on parental res hour's time when i dads now taking on parental reshour's time when i do dads now taking on parental res hour's time when i do the an hour's time when i do the school run, there'll be plenty of dads doing the school run. these days. you know, there's a lot more grandparents taking on the childcare responsibilities. so but need so it is possible. but you need to all things in to have all these things in place to make to make it successful. >> and you speak as a mum of two. old your two. how old are your youngsters? two. how old are your youngsterseldest is almost 11 and >> so my eldest is almost 11 and my youngest is seven. >> okay . and do you think it has >> okay. and do you think it has been worse than it is now, or do you expect it to get worser ? you expect it to get worser? >> i don't think it's

necessarily worse . i think, it necessarily worse. i think, it depends on your career. it depends on your career. it depends on your job. it depends what you want to do in life and i think, you know, having it all means different things to different people. know, different people. you know, there mums who there are plenty of mums who choose, lily allen to stay choose, like lily allen to stay at home. and she's a very at home. and she's in a very privileged position where she can choose to that. lots of can choose to do that. lots of mums to go back to work. mums have to go back to work. they choice and they can they have no choice and they can then feel guilty for going back to work because they feel like they're not living up to the expectations that other people, you know, say you should be as a mother. well every time isabel works, she says, you don't make this about her, but it is about you because people watch you and they you . they see you. >> how she get up this time >> how does she get up this time in the morning do this? but in the morning and do this? but how times she will to how many times she will say to me, not there for the me, oh, i'm not there for the kids , or i feel if i'm not kids, or i feel as if i'm not there for the kids, which she is. she does everything. >> job, 100% is >> my number one job, 100% is mum and everything else i do is to their life really , my to enable their life really, my career is secondary to my

children. i know a lot of mothers would feel the same. i mean, what do you think, kirsty? can you have it all or is it. >> no, no, roman, we're going to ask roman . sorry, roman. ask roman. sorry, roman. >> done kirsty. >> we've done kirsty. >> we've done kirsty. >> because thing >> roman. because the thing is, you are parenting specialist you are a parenting specialist as speak with a lot as well. so you speak with a lot of but still. of authority on this. but still. and saying the and kirsty was saying the organisation of the organisation is there. you can maybe do something about it, but you speak as someone who knows what the is , is involved the organisation is, is involved and you still say a well, the thing is, parenting is already parents are already an oppressed group , because if you think group, because if you think about it, you do a day's work and you go home and you pull another , maybe up to eight hours another, maybe up to eight hours with your kids and your childless colleague goes home and watches netflix, and you both get paid the same amount. so if you add to this being a woman, you're probably more

likely to be doing the lion's share of the child rearing , share of the child rearing, you're probably carrying the mental load, the domestic load , mental load, the domestic load, the emotional load and the social load for the entire family may be doing similar unseen things at work , and unseen things at work, and particularly in high powered environments , women are bending environments, women are bending themselves into pretzels to keep up with their male peers. this is going to take its toll on mothers. >> but look at a mother like lily allen . i mean, in fairness, lily allen. i mean, in fairness, you're talking about someone who's mostly going to they'll rehearse during the day, they'll record during the day, they record during the day, and they perform night. and not only perform at night. and not only do at night, they do they perform at night, they perform in aberdeen, they perform in aberdeen, they perform they perform in plymouth, they perform in plymouth, they perform in plymouth, they perform in paris, berlin, whatever. so, you know, she she gets it in every direction. i mean, that really must be tough if at all possible . if at all possible. >> absolutely. yeah. i mean, she's she's under a lot of

pressure. i'm sure her schedule is demanding and perhaps not that flexible , and i think, like that flexible, and i think, like kirsty said, you know, it's not always a choice. some women have to work. and of course, there are a thousand ways to raise a good family , i think rather than good family, i think rather than , the sort of practicals that we need to put in place. if you are a career woman, you want to be thinking about how to connect. really effectively with your kids so that the short windows of time that you have with them really count, and also undoing the unhealthy patterns that you inherited from your own childhood so that you can be more present and more available when you are with them , yeah. when you are with them, yeah. >> kirsty, just, just in all of this, we talk a lot about, you know, can women have it all? >> what about the kids? i feel like the kids always come secondary. you know what? what

is best for children, really? is it to have regular it for them to have regular contact their contact with one of their parents, or is it best, you know, for their parents to be earning a good wage so that they can have all the things that they want? mean, these are the they want? i mean, these are the dilemmas that parents grapple they want? i mean, these are the dilerallas that parents grapple they want? i mean, these are the diler all the|at parents grapple they want? i mean, these are the diler all the time.rents grapple they want? i mean, these are the diler all the time. probablyiple with all the time. probably children at of the day children at the end of the day would they just want their would say they just want their mum would say they just want their mu yeah, they want to spend time >> yeah, they want to spend time with for sure. with their parents for sure. i mean, know, you're a mother mean, you know, you're a mother yourself. you know it's yourself. you know what it's like. kids very yourself. you know what it's like. at kids very yourself. you know what it's like. at pullingkids very good at pulling on the heartstrings making feel heartstrings and making you feel guilty. the time guilty. pretty much all the time about something. know, even about something. you know, even doing morning, doing this call this morning, it's at that time in it's like, what, at that time in the morning, know, because the morning, you know, because i'm out their i'm not there sorting out their breakfast with them or something. it, know? something. i get it, you know? but, know, honest, but, you know, if i'm honest, i don't feel that guilty. but, but i you as mums , we i think, you know, as mums, we do guilty all the time do feel guilty all the time about , whether we about everything, whether we work, we don't we work, whether we don't work, we always some of always feel guilty. and some of that the pressures that you that is the pressures that you feel everybody the feel from everybody outside the noise comes to noise outside that comes in to make you that way. you make you feel that way. you know, can scroll through know, you can scroll through social and read social media and you'll read a post and you'll oh, that's post and you'll go, oh, that's made feel really bad today, made me feel really bad today,

so kind changing your so it's kind of changing your mindset more a mindset and having more of a can do attitude than a can't do attitude rather than a can't do attitude rather than a can't do and finding the do attitude. and finding the times, said, you know, times, as roman said, you know, when your children when you are with your children to good quality time, to make it good quality time, you know, it doesn't be you know, it doesn't have to be 24/7 children, long you know, it doesn't have to be 24.if children, long you know, it doesn't have to be 24.if you've children, long you know, it doesn't have to be 24.if you've got|ildren, long you know, it doesn't have to be 24.if you've got the an, long you know, it doesn't have to be 24.if you've got the weekends] you know, it doesn't have to be 24.if you've got the weekends , as if you've got the weekends, you spend it doing stuff with them nice 1 to 1. and them on that nice 1 to 1. and like i more dads are taking like i say, more dads are taking on parental responsibility. so does mum isn't does it matter if mum isn't there the time , if dad's there all the time, if dad's going to be there instead? probably not. and i see that lots in work. i work with lots in my work. i work with lots in my work. i work with lots with dads as as mums. lots with dads as well as mums. i it loads all the time. you i see it loads all the time. you know dads are there, you know, doing are doing their bit. the times are changing.well continued success >> i feel well continued success to of you. i hope to both of you. i hope everything out and everything works out well and continues well for continues to work out well for you. kirsty and roman, thank you for thoughts today. thank for your thoughts today. thank you much. yet lots of you very much. and yet lots of people in relation to people speaking in relation to that. i'm just very lucky. i was just sitting, thinking, listening to the ladies there and just thinking of my, my parents and i what their parents and i know what their jobs and i know what their jobs were and i know what their specific was, i specific definition was, and i know it was job to get on and know it was my job to get on and fight my brothers and play

fight with my brothers and play with do all sorts of with them and do all sorts of things. and i look at it and i think there was no thought put into we got through it, but into how we got through it, but we we were very happy we did it and we were very happy and, and i don't know, and, and, and i don't know, i think it's when you start analysing things my parents i'm sure, sit analyse how sure, didn't sit and analyse how much time they spent with each one of us. they just did. and the other thing we did was all this health safety rubbish. this health and safety rubbish. my father had a carpet fan and we just bungled in back we were just bungled in the back of belts, nothing of it. no seat belts, nothing else. we had great time. there's nothing fun roll of felt nothing as fun as a roll of felt in back, i'll bet, because in the back, i'll bet, because the thing is, you didn't need a seatbelt because if he pulls up, he goes straight into the carpet. straight into it. right. we're straight to cheltenham. >> are. we're going to do >> we are. we're going to do that a right. so that in a second. right. so we've who we've got arsenal who went through league we've got arsenal who went thro we league we've got arsenal who went thro we talk league we've got arsenal who went thro we talk about league we've got arsenal who went thro we talk about days eague we've got arsenal who went thro we talk about days ingue we've got arsenal who went thro we talk about days in nam and we talk about my days in nam . cheltenham is of course cheltenham. cheltenham festival day two and our great friend paddy ashpole ex jockey is going to be with

>> at penalties. penalties we're going to penalties in the sport this morning. paul coyte. i'm referring to the champions league last night. yes, through to the quarterfinals for the first time in a million years. >> that's right. >> that's right. >> is. and did by. by penalties. >> i like penalties , don't you >> i like penalties, don't you know. do you not know why . know. do you not know why. >> because i find football nervous enough watching it and anxious enough. and i just think it can just go any way on penalties. >> that makes it great for me. >> that makes it great for me. >> do you ever take a penalty? >> do you ever take a penalty? >> have i taken a penalty? yeah, probably have done. >> but like on a real football pitch i did it at what was highfield road was like coventry. >> coventry city. yeah. >> coventry city. yeah. >> and they had steve ogrizovic was the. that's him , the was the. that's him, the coventry keeper. dear god it was impossible. i mean i hit the out of five. i hit the post twice . of five. i hit the post twice. ogrizovic saved one and he got lucky. >> yeah, yeah yeah. tell me how

many penalties did you have then. five. oh so you take five. yeah. so is this affecting your thoughts on penalties? yes. it's what it is isn't it. >> them against richard keys. and beat me by penalty. and then he beat me by penalty. right. annoying. right. that was very annoying. >> hairy hand comes up, plucks them so well anyway that's david raya. david raya was the steven ogrizovic of last night. so it was. it was one nil to porto after the first leg. yeah. arsenal got it back to one one. and then going into the second half you think it's going to be arsenal are still going to turn this no it went on this around. but no it went on because they're a wily team because they're a wily old team porto. someone like porto. you've got someone like pepe who's actually the pepe who's 40 who's actually the same as as captain black, same age as as captain black, mikel arteta, the arsenal manager . and so he's been manager. and so he's been playing for a long time. so you know, it was a hell of a game. went to penalties. arsenal came through into the next round for the first time in 14 years, and that draw will friday that draw will be made friday friday friday games friday friday two more games today friday friday two more games tod thank you, we can say under >> thank you, we can say under starters orders. oh, cheltenham . starters orders. oh, cheltenham. we've got paddy aspell, who, was

. well, you've retired for many years now. paddy. you look, you're bones hardly look formed, but yet you're in retirement land and. >> good morning. good guys. yes. five years in retirement now. seems a lot longer, to be honest, but . yeah. no, i like to honest, but. yeah. no, i like to keep in shape and, so it's all good. >> so you went yesterday . what >> so you went yesterday. what was that feeling like, knowing that you weren't going to ride a horse ? horse? >> yeah, you do get a little bit envious , for sure, but, you envious, for sure, but, you know, these are very tough, hardy guys. there's certain things i do miss about the job, but, when i see 1 or 2 of them coming back in with with mud down their breeches and maybe not looking so clever, i thought i was happy enough with my position. then >> paddy, let me ask you, what is the day like for a jockey at

cheltenham? you're a former winner there at cheltenham . is winner there at cheltenham. is it something can enjoy? is it something you can enjoy? is it something you can enjoy? is it another job? turn it just another job? you turn up, do job and clear up, you do your job and clear off? does it feel special? what's like and what is the what's it like and what is the day a jockey? what time do day for a jockey? what time do you turn up a certain race you turn up for a certain race and when do you go home? >> well, i suppose it all depends on your location. but a lot of the irish trainers, they're already here, so the horses are on site. so the guys will be up here first thing in the morning to set times where horses have got to be on, and then off the track for morning exercise. so yeah, always anything to do with racehorses is an early start. maybe not so bad in the winter because we haven't got the daylight hours, but generally a six or a but it's generally a six or a 630 start. and, yeah, it's exciting , but butterflies as exciting, but butterflies as well. but it's nervous excitement. these are big days and you know, it . it's very, and you know, it. it's very, very competitive. but you also appreciate the fact that you're very lucky to be here as well. >> but top of my list, top of my

list on race day would be paul and i are the same. our bodies are temples and we prepare for this presentation of a morning, by by by an acute fast regime. >> and we have the win as well before we come into the studio, don't we? yeah yeah. >> so what do you actually eat? if anything, going race day, if anything, going on race day, my ? my friend? >> well, i was quite lucky, for, at the end of my career, i did switch to ride on the flat full time, which meant an awful lot of weight restriction. but when i was riding overjumps, i could make the bottom weight easy, which was ten stone. so eating for me was never a problem. but trust me, the black coffee and well, maybe gone are the days that cigarettes , black coffee that cigarettes, black coffee and cigarettes was the, the main stronghold of the diet for a lot of jockeys. but sports nutrition, the data that jockeys have nowadays and recovery and looking after your body is, is

really in the forefront nowadays. it's moved on and thankfully it has an awful lot. but it's a difficult industry because some of these jump jockeys are big guys and they've got to make way every single week. >> it'll be a long week, longer week for the horse. >> i think . but, but but let's >> i think. but, but but let's talk about what how you found yesterday. it was a wet old day, but it's not ladies day style. wednesday today. what are you looking forward to today, paddy? you know where i'm heading? i'm heading toward some tips from you. what can we you. but, what can we look forward at cheltenham today? forward to at cheltenham today? >> well, it was a wet start yesterday morning , to be fair, yesterday morning, to be fair, it was, but it cleared up and the rain stayed away all day in the rain stayed away all day in the end, but it was overnight and early morning where the track got a proper soaking , but track got a proper soaking, but as i mentioned, the rain did stay away, and it brightened up, and it was a reasonable day. i was outside working , all day was outside working, all day yesterday. and to be fair, until about the last race, which was

half five, it started to get a bit chilly then, but on the whole everybody was dressed accordingly, wrapped up and yeah, it was a very, very enjoyable day. not as busy as i expected, but still a real good day. >> willie mullins there, willie mullins winning more so . so what mullins winning more so. so what do we think about willie mullins today?i do we think about willie mullins today? i mean it's the elf al fayed yolo is everybody's talking about in the queen mother champion chase. is that the one for you and is there any outsiders you might have for us there ? there? >> yes . he there? >> yes. he will be priced accordingly to a very, very solid horse, he's a strange one, really, because he knows how much he can get away with when it comes to the jumping department. he's very quick , department. he's very quick, he's very low. he doesn't spend too much time in the air. this guy ' too much time in the air. this guy , and he can give his punters guy, and he can give his punters a fright because he likes to nudge a fence here and there. but a very strong, powerful but he's a very strong, powerful horse. huge engine, i don't think beat today.

think they get beat today. willie mullins won the feature yesterday. i think he'll win the feature today. he ended up with three winners yesterday. he didn't get off the winning start, afternoon get start, but the afternoon did get better as we went along. but as you can expect, got another very strong hand today and i certainly can't see past el fagiolo in today's feature. again, good man paddy. >> thank you. thank you very much indeed. you have yourself a good day. hope it's drive for you as well. thank you. appreciate it, did we get off to a start, guys? a winning start, guys? >> a good day. oh, yeah. >> have a good day. oh, yeah. >> have a good day. oh, yeah. >> what happened our syndicate? >> well, i wasn't going to mention about the mention anything about the syndicate. it begins syndicate. the it's it begins today. syndicate. the it's it begins today . okay, we'll start the today. okay, we'll start the syndicate today. don't want to syndicate today. i don't want to talk forgot, didn't you? >> i'm going some more >> i'm going to get some more tips, then we'll see how tips, and then we'll see how things for 830. things go for the 830. >> i'll have tips for >> i'll have some more tips for you. see. >> and i should say, just listening to and him listening to paddy and him talking he took on talking about what he took on race and i sipped this all race day, and i sipped this all day. is water know. >> i'm so glad you've wised up to that. >> people will think so. >> now people will think so. good coffee something? >> now people will think so. gocit'soffee something? >> now people will think so. gocit's not. something?

>> it's not. >> it's not. >> just hot. >> it's just hot. >> it's just hot. >> very, very good for you. >> very, very good for you. >> is it good for you? >> is it good for you? >> just really good way >> it's just the really good way to the morning water. to start the morning hot water. don't to start the morning hot water. dori'm not the. i'm not >> i'm not the. i'm not a scientist. nobody believes it's hot water. >> it is hot water. i know >> but it is hot water. i know it, i know it is. i can see it. but would but most people would not believe it hot water. believe that it is hot water. but it is. >> but it is, it is, it is it is it is. >> i've got to say goodbye to you, paul. we've got to say hello to our paper reviewers who'll with us we'll be

>> all right. let's go through stories. making the. the papers today. and we've got norman baken today. and we've got norman baker. and we've got medical writer doctor renee hoenderkamp, nice to see both of you here, norman, what do you say about the diane abbott situation and how it is developing ? how it is developing? >> well, it's developing in a way that makes the prime minister look weak and out of

control. i think it is. and just speaking to renee off off camera and wondering whether one of the reasons he's taken the limp view, he has is because he doesn't want to upset this big tory donor, who is, i think, one of the biggest donors to the tory party >> he's the biggest ever >> and he's the biggest ever donon >> and he's the biggest ever donor. but you take would donor. but can you take would you be able to have access? people say this, we should people say this, oh, we should just £10 million just hand back the £10 million that been donated. as that has been donated. is it as simple as that? would they still have million they've got? >> they've got a bank account full of money, so i'm sure they could back if they wanted. >> why reward him, though, with giving 10 million back? giving him ten, 10 million back? >> they should keep that >> i mean, they should keep that money people. money and just people. >> tempting, but >> that money's tempting, but they didn't stand. >> could donate >> well, then they could donate that money to a charity that combats for example, i combats racism for example, i almost think more of a story here is, well, the fact that it took kemi badenoch to call this out rather than rishi sunak, you know, i don't know. i don't know what to say. >> you could have had ownership of this. it could have owned it. >> and i just don't know what

it's going to for take him to realise he needs to be more decisive. yeah. >> should be on front >> you should be on the front foot of this. he said right foot of this. if he said right away, wrong, is away, this is wrong, this is racist having this racist and we're not having this a conservative party, he would racist and we're not having this a corgot'ative party, he would racist and we're not having this a corgot himself rty, he would racist and we're not having this a corgot himself some would racist and we're not having this a corgot himself some brownie have got himself some brownie points from points actually, apart from anything points actually, apart from anywell, said he should have >> well, we said he should have learnt prime ministers learnt from prime ministers of the taken the past if boris had taken control of the pincher control of the chris pincher situation front, he may control of the chris pincher situeben front, he may control of the chris pincher situebe the front, he may control of the chris pincher situebe the primefront, he may control of the chris pincher situebe the prime minister may still be the prime minister today. this what rishi is today. and this is what rishi is now running now doing. he's running away from hiding from problems and hiding and nobody here's nobody respects that. and here's a you know, there's a man of race. you know, there's every for him to speak every reason for him to speak out . out. >> and renee, i want to talk to you about a bath . you about having a bath. >> right. >> right. >> now. amy. >> right. >> well, ow. amy. >> right. >> well, from my. >> right. >> well, from my situation, because of lack of leg movement, i haven't taken a bath in 12 years or so. and i really miss it because your other muscles ache and whatever from that . but ache and whatever from that. but the whole craze from almost everyone i know is to have cold baths. it is. so as a doc, what would you say about cold baths? >> okay, so i think cold baths are horrific . nick. however,

are horrific. nick. however, there are very good there is very good evidence that it's very good evidence that it's very good evidence that it's very good for you that it resets the immune system, that it gets gets your body working in a way that it wouldn't work otherwise. and that's why people do this cold thing, cold swimming. cold bath thing, cold swimming. some have little ice tubs some people have little ice tubs in that get in their garden that they get into every day. have tried into every day. i have tried doing shower bit for doing the cold shower bit for just a minute, which apparently doing the cold shower bit for ju minute nute, which apparently a minute a day. >> i just a minute a day. >> ijust can't a minute a day. >> i just can't it. >> i just i can't do it. >> do it. like the >> i can't do it. i like the heat of my shower. >> have the i have the >> why? i have the i have the shower on maximum heat. yes, shower on the maximum heat. yes, everyone that gets in says everyone else that gets in says it, but can't it, scolds them, but i can't even do of a cold shower and even do 10s of a cold shower and i think i'd have a heart attack if think have a if i genuinely think i'd have a heart got into an heart attack if i got into an ice i mean, is that ice bath. i mean, is that a risk, doctor? well, tell me i have a medical excuse. >> actually been to >> i have actually been up to manitoba canada, where there manitoba in canada, where there are water that say, are signs by the water that say, if you fall this water, if you fall into this water, you've seconds to live, you've got 45 seconds to live, because not good you've got 45 seconds to live, becyou. not good you've got 45 seconds to live, becyou. so not good you've got 45 seconds to live, becyou. so yes, not good you've got 45 seconds to live, becyou. so yes, i'm not good you've got 45 seconds to live, becyou. so yes, i'm sure good you've got 45 seconds to live, becyou. so yes, i'm sure there for you. so yes, i'm sure there is a but i would imagine is a risk, but i would imagine just in shower it would be just in the shower it would be okay do just okay as well. just do it. just do bit. do it bit by bit. >> going i'll try other >> going to i'll try other health kicks, but not that one.

>> sounds like a helpful notice because hotel has got because in my hotel has got a sign saying caution water sign saying caution hot water next shower. sign saying caution hot water nexyes, shower. sign saying caution hot water nexyes, ifhower. sign saying caution hot water nexyes, if youzr. sign saying caution hot water nexyes, if you see about >> yes, as if you see about getting shower in getting into a shower though in a i have learned a hotel. what i have learned what i've change. >> change the >> the don't change the arrangements. last person arrangements. the last person who's right and who's in there got it right and the thing that amazes me is why there's no red or blue sign or powerful or not powerful . powerful or not powerful. >> you're left to guess. you're left to guess these things. and i've realised through experience, the last person will probably got it just probably have got it right. just turn it on. and. >> but some of these showers, you tell which is the you can't tell which is the temperature dial and is temperature dial and which is the dial. so you've the on off dial. so you've turned hot on the turned the hot on off in the process of trying to switch it on. you stand there on. and then you stand there going, ooh. >> if that last person >> and also if that last person in eamonn was a cold in the room eamonn was a cold shower fanatic. >> or a scolder >> exactly. yeah. or a scolder like me . like me. >> f p— >> well, you're in trouble. >> well, you're in trouble. >> i'm really getting to >> what i'm really getting to is i understand they're i don't understand why they're not, why not not, stamped. why they're not printed , why that's didn't look pretty. >> yeah, yeah , the way it is. >> yeah, yeah, the way it is. >> yeah, yeah, the way it is. >> but also you're saying that, a lot of people have stopped taking baths because of cost.

>> well, i can't believe that if they're that worried about costs, assumes they're costs, one assumes they're actually using their heating costs, one assumes they're ac'full.y using their heating costs, one assumes they're ac'full potential.g their heating costs, one assumes they're ac'full potential. so 1eir heating costs, one assumes they're ac'full potential. so the heating costs, one assumes they're ac'full potential. so the house; to full potential. so the house will be chillier anyway will probably be chillier anyway . they would . i can't believe they would then a cold bath. i just then get in a cold bath. i just can't believe that. i think it's a nonsense. >> do . >> i do. >> i do. >> that's someone who lives in a cold house. >> me too. >> yes, me too. >> okay, let's move on. norman lots of debate about when this general election is going to be. and indeed, we had the 1922 committee having a secret meeting with the prime minister. other people were suggesting he was going to be into was going to be pushed into a corner, others saying the tories don't corner, others saying the tories dont an corner, others saying the tories don't an election. don't want an early election. what's your own what's the spin? what's your own view well? do you think view as well? when do you think it's going to be? >> been warned by senior >> he has been warned by senior tory and he's apparently going to who usually know to the sun, who usually know what they're talking about on these shouldn't these matters that he shouldn't go because have go in may because he'll have a drubbing. i mean, he will drubbing. but i mean, he will have a drubbing in goes in may, but have an even bigger but he'll have an even bigger drubbing because in drubbing in my view, because in october, isn't october, because there isn't an easy reality october, because there isn't an eazif reality october, because there isn't an eazif i reality october, because there isn't an eazif i were reality october, because there isn't an eazif i were rishi, reality october, because there isn't an eazif i were rishi, i reality october, because there isn't an eazif i were rishi, i would �*eality is, if i were rishi, i would actually in may because actually go in may because i think he would cut losses.

think he would cut his losses. and at prime and if you look at prime ministers in the past, whether it's john major or gordon brown, dragging the end just dragging it out to the end just annoys at large , and annoys the public at large, and they get more and more irritated and more and more determined to vote out. so and vote the government out. so and if he goes to if he goes on to the of the year, he'll have the end of the year, he'll have more the channel to more boats in the channel to deal have bad deal with and he'll have bad election results in may. >> elections, more by elections. >> he may even have a sort of leadership challenge some leadership challenge from some parts knows. leadership challenge from some parts my knows. leadership challenge from some parts my advice knows. leadership challenge from some parts my advice to knows. leadership challenge from some parts my advice to rishi,|ows. leadership challenge from some parts my advice to rishi, i'my. so so my advice to rishi, i'm sure he listening to what i sure he is listening to what i would to him is, if i were would say to him is, if i were you, i would go in may and take your medicine. can't be your medicine. it can't be enjoying it. >> he's clearly because >> i mean, he's clearly because they're clamp on they're going to clamp down on non—doms, and non—doms, aren't they? he and his clearly to his wife are clearly going to make out of the country. make an exit out of the country. as this done off to as soon as this is done off to la. must be thinking i'd much la. he must be thinking i'd much rather in a job where i'm rather be in a job where i'm treated than treated with respect rather than constantly interesting. treated with respect rather than con but tly interesting. treated with respect rather than conbut i've interesting. treated with respect rather than conbut i've to interesting. treated with respect rather than conbut i've to haveasting. treated with respect rather than conbut i've to have an ng. treated with respect rather than conbut i've to have an early >> but i've got to have an early exit now. but it just to exit now. but it just got to move out. norman and renee see you about 40 minutes time. you again about 40 minutes time. thank indeed. thank you very much indeed. right now we see annie right now we will see annie shuttleworth the weather.

shuttleworth with the weather. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on . gb news. on. gb news. >> good morning. welcome to your latest gb news weather update. heavy rain will persist across north and western areas through today and into thursday in fact, whereas in the east it will be much drier, brighter and for everyone it's going to be feeling much milder through the rest very heavy rest of the week. but very heavy rain will persist for parts of nonh rain will persist for parts of north wales, lake district, north wales, the lake district, southern areas of scotland as well, particularly dumfries and galloway, heaviest of galloway, seeing the heaviest of the rainfall further north. it should dry apart should stay largely dry apart from some very blustery showers. it will be very windy across northern scotland. gale force winds expected, in the winds are expected, but in the south and east it's going to be a dry afternoon. breezy but still mild with highs of 15 still very mild with highs of 15 or degrees. if we do see any or 16 degrees. if we do see any breaks in the cloud through tonight, the rain is going to persist similar areas. so persist in similar areas. so today and overcast today very wet and overcast across north wales and many northern england, northern areas of england, particularly across western

coasts here. and we will see some of moving some outbreaks of rain moving into the southwest thursday into the southwest by thursday morning. stay dry morning. it should stay dry though, the far north and in though, in the far north and in the southeast. and for everyone, it's be another very it's going to be another very mild the day tomorrow. it's going to be another very milcrain the day tomorrow. it's going to be another very milcrain will the day tomorrow. it's going to be another very milcrain will continue :omorrow. it's going to be another very milcrain will continue t010rrow. it's going to be another very milcrain will continue to push '. the rain will continue to push into northern areas, but it will shift slowly but surely further north into the central belt. some more northern areas of scotland. seeing some rain later on in the day , we'll continue to on in the day, we'll continue to see showers breaking out across southern wales, the southern areas of wales, the southwest as well. these could turn heavy and be blustery turn quite heavy and be blustery too, but again, the far southeast should stay dry and bright and we could see highs of 17 degrees by. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsor of weather on

remarks of the labour mp diane abbott . abbott. >> yes, it finally came from number 10 last night that the remarks of the tory donor were wrong and racist. pressure building on the prime minister on the conservative party to hand back the £10 million in a week that rishi sunak just seems to keep having more and more bad news. i'll bring you the latest shortly. >> but maybe good news for the subpostmasters. will it end in victory? the government is to introduce new legislation today to quash their convictions . to quash their convictions. >> sir keir starmer has promised that dame esther rantzen will be will allow a vote on assisted

dying , should he win the next election. >> would that make you vote for him? let us know and very shortly we'll be speaking to gb news very own anne diamond about safer sleep week, raising awareness about cot death after her own personal loss and the sport. >> nervy night in north london david ray is the hero as arsenal scrape past porto on penalties . scrape past porto on penalties. novak djokovic loses to the world number 123, and emma raducanu talks balls. tennis balls, tennis balls. that is, of course , thank you, thank you. course, thank you, thank you. >> morning. they'll be very heavy rain across northwestern areas through the next few days, but elsewhere be very but elsewhere it will be very mild. out all the details mild. find out all the details with me a little later. mild. find out all the details with me a little later . on. with me a little later. on. >> so racist. and wrong. that's how a spokesperson for the prime minister branded the alleged comments made by a major tory donor about the black labour mp,

diane abbott. >> diane abbott was, of course, the first black woman to be elected to parliament. the comments from a donor called frank hester. he is the party's biggest ever donor, told a meeting that diane abbott and i quote, should be shot and it made him quote again, want to hate all black women. he has since apologised. >> however , over it's the lack >> however, over it's the lack of immediate condemnation of hester's remarks, which are now causing the prime minister a political headache. let's get the thoughts in all of this from katherine forster look, what on earth took the prime minister so to long call out racism? have we gone backwards in this country ? gone backwards in this country? >> it seems to be becoming a bit of a pattern , doesn't it, when of a pattern, doesn't it, when they're in an awkward situation, whether it be sir keir starmer with azhar ali, the candidate for rochdale, that they ultimately had to drop over anti—semitic comments , whether anti —semitic comments, whether it anti—semitic comments, whether it be the reaction to the comments that leigh anderson made that finally cost him the

whip, or whether it be the quite shocking remarks made by this tory donor that gave them £10 million, as politicians really seem to struggle to say what to millions of people up and down the country would be quite obvious . now, the country would be quite obvious. now, in the case of rishi sunak, they spent all day yesterday saying that the comments, that diane abbott should be shot, that it made, she made him want to hate all black women were unacceptable. but they would not say that they were racist. and then the business secretary, kemi badenoch, came out late in the afternoon , said on twitter these afternoon, said on twitter these comments are wrong and racist . comments are wrong and racist. and lo and behold, a couple of hours later, the prime minister's spokesman said the same. now what took them so long? well, i suspect, it's all to do with the fact that he gave the party £10 million last year. £10 million out of a total of 48 million they were given last

yeah million they were given last year. bear in mind there's a general election looming in admitting that the comments were racist. then that begs the question which labour and the lib dems already asking, well, why haven't given the money why haven't you given the money back? clearly they don't want to. they say , he's apologised to. they say, he's apologised profusely, which he has. he's tried to ring diane abbott, who said that they make her feel threatened. she's a woman. she goes out and about on public transport, so the calls for them to give the money back. growing ihave to give the money back. growing i have to say, i don't think that's going to happen. okay catherine, thanks very much indeed. >> joining us now in the studio , >> joining us now in the studio, co—founder of conservatives against racism. that's albie amankona , i'll be i mean, amankona, i'll be i mean, obviously, this is embarrassing, how hurtful to do you find or how hurtful to do you find or how shocking do you find it? shock ing? >> i mean, even when you read out the comments just now. eamonn i was shocked every time ihear eamonn i was shocked every time i hear the comments, i am shocked and shocked again. look,

in terms of where the conservative party has ended up on this issue, i would say we got in the end. i think it got there in the end. i think it was very disappointing that i was very disappointing that i was one of the only voices yesterday morning to come straight off the bat and say this comment. kwasi this was a racist comment. kwasi kwarteng said it on a bbc kwarteng also said it on a bbc politics show. kemi badenoch tweeted about it later on in the day. >> but i'll tell you who's not saying anything about it. the prime minister well, he said something about it later on. >> later on in the day. yesterday spokesperson well, exactly. in exactly. and i am sure that in prime minister's questions today, come up today, the question will come up and have to give a and he will have to give a straight and honest answer, because will be because anything else will be unacceptable me. but as i unacceptable to me. but as i said on conservatives where said on the conservatives where we've arrived this, we got we've arrived on this, we got there the end on question there in the end on the question about the money about whether or not the money should given back, which should be given back, which i'm sure everyone wants to know whether not that is something whether or not that is something which done. i've been which should be done. i've been very on this. i don't very firm on this. i don't actually it should be actually think it should be given back. view is that the given back. my view is that the money people money should be spent on people and that can improve the and causes that can improve the conservative right conservative and centre right race calls within the race relations calls within the conservative ensure

conservative party to ensure that nothing like this happens again. can come from this. again. good can come from this. the next steps matter, and i can't believe i'm even going to ask this question , albie, ask you this question, albie, but explain why it is but just explain why it is important to call out racism, not least when we've seen two mps murdered for doing their jobs because it is wrong. it's a simple matter of right and wrong. we know racism is wrong . wrong. we know racism is wrong. britain is not a racist country. millions of people up and down the country will have heard the comments that were reported yesterday from five years ago. 2019 is not a long time ago. i remember 2019. i'm sure you do. i'm sure our viewers do as well . i'm sure our viewers do as well. it was not a time where these comments were ever acceptable and millions of people up and down the country would have thought that was totally wrong . thought that was totally wrong. and on the media and the minister on the media around morning was not around yesterday morning was not able to say what the country was thinking. well, he must have been being told you're not >> imagine being told you're not allowed say and being allowed to say that. and being put front of the baying put out in front of the baying media. it's incredibly difficult position that ministers are being in. that's weak

being put in. and that's weak leadership. yeah. >> hugely difficult >> it is a hugely difficult position for ministers to put position for ministers to be put for in them, the position to change on in the day and change later on in the day and the conservative party needs to do better. >> you see, as you say, for a position to change later in the day, be things are day, i'll be to me, things are either right or wrong, and it's obvious the start obvious right from the start what right thing to do. what is the right thing to do. so you know, some 17 year old advisor telling you to do this, i would think, no, just get on and say what to be said. and say what needs to be said. there will be an argument though, i this equally though, and i find this equally distasteful that a lot of people will try and excuse this by saying, yeah, but it's diane abbott we're about here, abbott we're talking about here, and will not a lot of and there will not be a lot of sympathy for diane abbott, but there's no room. i mean, this is wrong. it's wrong. whatever way you at and whoever it is you look at it and whoever it is about, i have profound political differences with diane abbott. >> profound political differences with diane abbott. i would never use language like this against diane abbott. she was the first black female mp elected in parliament. there are many black politicians that

conservatives look to today, people like kemi badenoch for example, people like helen grant, people like james cleverly, bim afolami , for cleverly, bim afolami, for example, who i do not think would be where they are in politics today, were it not for people like diane abbott in the mid 20th century, blazing the trail black politicians in trail for black politicians in this country, we can disagree with politically . yes, she with her politically. yes, she said some very questionable and anti—semitic in the past, anti—semitic things in the past, but she deserves respect and she does not deserve to be told that she makes you want to hate all black people, or that she she should be shot. these are incitements to violence, racist comments and also misogynistic, unacceptable . unacceptable. >> abby, there's good news that the government would be able to be talking about this morning. you know, we've seen the economy grow, which is everyone's been banging so long, we banging on about for so long, we could soon be out of this, this recession. it could be a short and shallow recession. the government much government will be very much hoping focus on that. they're hoping to focus on that. they're bringing legislation to bringing in new legislation to quash of these quash the convictions of these wrongfully but of the

postmasters. but because of the delay nobody's delay and the dither, nobody's talking that. and that has talking about that. and that has to a serious question about to be a serious question about leadership. need have leadership. do we need to have a general now? general election now? >> minister will call >> the prime minister will call a election when he's a general election when he's ready to call general ready to call a general election. i personally do not think would be a time think that would be a good time for general election, because for a general election, because it is very clear that there are kinks that be out kinks that need to be ironed out in the number 10 machine before we go into an election. i think the response to this racist, clearly incident over the clearly racist incident over the past couple of days has shown that there is something which is not working, and that needs to be quickly corrected, and there should a general election should not be a general election until correction has until that correction has happened.the until that correction has happened. the government and rishi good story to rishi sunak have a good story to tell on taxes, on bringing down immigration, although it is too high on new legislation which is coming forward about crime . coming forward about crime. there's a good story to tell, but things keep getting scuppered because of these pr mishaps and needs to be mishaps and that needs to be corrected there is a corrected before there is a general election. >> about future >> okay, what about future donations to the party in the run up to that election? is

there any way back for mr hester? >> i think it would be very difficult to see a way back for mr hester to the conservative party in terms of being a donor or even a member. to be quite frank, i would not be comfortable with to us continue to take money from this man. as i mentioned before, with the monies that have already been given party, i've given to the party, i've outlined i that should outlined how i think that should be on people and causes be spent on people and causes who further conservative who can further the conservative and race relations and centre right race relations calls, there should be calls, but there should be no further relationship with mr hester, this is the hester, given that this is the second racism row at the centre of the conservative party the of the conservative party in the last two weeks, been last two weeks, have you been contacted for contacted or approached for advice from number 10? >> given your capacity in setting up this, this group of conservatives against racism? no i haven't personally been contacted. >> you know, i've met rishi sunak, i know some of the team at number 10. i know many conservative mps. i've spoken to conservative mps. i've spoken to conservative mps. i've spoken to conservative mps privately. i'm always here if people want to chat, i'm here help . chat, i'm here to help. conservatives against racism is here to help. there are many other groups that are to

other groups that are here to help in conservative party help in the conservative party with like this. it didn't with issues like this. it didn't have to to this. the right have to come to this. the right line could have been taken yesterday and we would be talking about something else by now. >> but i think it's so important to to you. and i think to talk to you. and i think it's important look, we're important to say, look, if we're to forward this, if we to move forward in this, if we are, what would we do with this donation, would you see donation, how would you see it working ? who you see it working? who would you see it helping? just think it's, helping? i just think it's, again, sense. again, common sense. call albion, you. talk to you albion, talk to you. talk to you and associates with that and your associates with that sort thing. it's an sort of thing. and it's an opinion. but it's a it's an essential opinion within the conservative party. i would have thought. very much. thought. thank you very much. >> you, thank you. be >> thank you, thank you. i'll be right . well, we touched on it right. well, we touched on it there. the post office scandal is the headlines today, is back in the headlines today, but government will but the government will be pleased this. they're pleased about this. they're introducing a new bill which will it would overturn will do what it would overturn wrongful convictions or wrongful convictions in the horizon scandal. >> the prime minister has said the bill will mark an important step in finally clearing the names of hundreds of victims. >> and one of those victims is the former postmaster, janet

skinner, who was handed down a nine month sentence in two thousand and seven over an alleged shortfall of £59,000, which was absolute nonsense, was it not? janet, how do you feel today about this new legislation ? >> well, 7— >> well, it's ? >> well, it's good for the people now coming forward, to have the convictions overturned and not have to go through what we've had to go through. our fight for justice is we've had to go through. our fight forjustice is being going for on, decades, it took from the group litigation in 2019 to actually get our convictions overturned in 2021. so it's just it makes it, an easier, option for people to come forward. >> now, janet, from your point , >> now, janet, from your point, you were handed a nine month sentence. so many years ago. seven years ago or so , why did seven years ago or so, why did how was your life affected? your conviction was quashed by the court of appeal, a few years ago

. but what does all this meant to you? what is the human cost been to you? how is this redirect did your whole life, for instance , i am mum was for instance, i am mum was actually 17 years ago, it's . it actually 17 years ago, it's. it changed everything. it's changed me physically . i ended up, ill. me physically. i ended up, ill. and it's left me with mobility problems, and it's just been an ongoing thing for decades . it's ongoing thing for decades. it's still ongoing, even though this new legislation has been brought into place today, we've still got the inquiry going ahead. there is police, investigations into the post office's, wrongdoings , so, i mean, really wrongdoings, so, i mean, really other than this of overturning convictions today, there isn't there is still no end in sight. the fight is still going on. >> yeah, but john, here's what i'd love to know. we hear about

this fraud that goes on and that you guys, you know, i'm not sure if it's a shop you run, if it's a pure, mechanical thing in relation to the post office or whatever form the business takes. but how do you end up stealing money? what are they talking about? are they talking about someone buys a bag of jelly babies or 100 stamps and they, you know, you charge them £100 and put 60 in your pocket or what? what are you supposed to be doing that's cleaning this money off the post office? >> putting it in your bag and walking out with it basically is what they're saying. and you've been using it for your own, lifestyle choices. holidays, cars , whatever expenses people cars, whatever expenses people they believe people have. but they believe people have. but the problem is, is the money was never there to have been stolen. it was the system , wasn't. it it was the system, wasn't. it wasn't fit for purpose. it wasn't fit for purpose. it wasn't fit for purpose. it wasn't fit for purpose. in 2000.

in 2000, when it was rolled out. and it certainly wasn't fit for purpose in 2014. so you've got quite a lot of people who have basically put the money in the wallet. so put the money in the purses and walked out with it . purses and walked out with it. >> forjanet, anyone that's seen the itv documentary that has done so much to move the dial in the right direction on this story, we'll have a small sense of what this injustice has felt like. but from your own perspective , in your own words, perspective, in your own words, take us back to that day . you take us back to that day. you were in cuffs and sent to jail , were in cuffs and sent to jail, and you were lying in your prison cell, going to sleep for the first time. you were going to serve three months or so before you were let out. you must have lost all faith in humanity. i mean, what was going through your mind? how did that feel? >> so when you train, you're telling the truth to nobody wants to listen and nobody wanted to listen because it was it the post office. this it was the post office. this trusted brand that was in every stop shop , local shop and save

stop shop, local shop and save the community. i mean, so going to prison, to be honest, i actually don't really remember a lot of that day. i remember bits of that day, but not a lot of it, i was actually put on suicide watch, for two weeks because of the state that i was in. emotionally. i mean, i had two teenage children , and on the two teenage children, and on the base of my, legal team, they advised me to plead guilty to false accounting for the theft to be dropped, which, to be honest. now, when you see it is what's been going on with everybody , they've done the everybody, they've done the exact same thing. i think the drama , what the drama has done drama, what the drama has done is, is it's put our situation into layman's terms for people to be understanding it, to be drawn into people's houses. but i think the heart of social media and the fact that you can stream and you can download things, i think it's given it a such a bigger, wider audience .

such a bigger, wider audience. people can understand it more, and tell me what was what was it like being a, a subpostmistress was it a was it a good job? >> was it something that you were content in doing ? and how were content in doing? and how do you feel? i mean, if someone said to you tomorrow you could have that job back, what would you say ? you say? >> so if i could turn back time and take that job back, i'd take it back tomorrow. i loved that job, and i and i did. every day was a different day . and you was was a different day. and you was deaung was a different day. and you was dealing with the most personal thing to people , which is money, thing to people, which is money, it was the money in it sounds stupid. the money that the office carried was never a value to me. it became a value. when you're passing it over to that person. it was. and honestly, i genuinely, absolutely loved that job. but would i went for the post office now? absolutely not. >> their loss, janet, their loss. we're so pleased that these convictions will be quashed very soon. and we're

really grateful for you, given all of the impact that this has had on your life and your children's lives, on your health, that you've taken the time to talk to us about it. thanks very much, janet skinner, this morning. thank you. thank you. this morning. thank you. thank yougosh, you imagine >> gosh, can you imagine incredible. i just the injustice offered. >> yeah. just feeling like no one believes you did her own teenage children question her? they'd totally legitimate to they'd be totally legitimate to doubt her because she'd been found guilty of something awful situation. and i don't know that quashing the convictions and any paltry amount of compensation will ever really make up for what they've suffered. >> it's 8:18 o'clock on this wednesday morning breakfast and gb news with eamonn holmes and isabel webster. >> time now for your forecast. here's annie shuttleworth judith raanan. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> good morning. welcome to your

latest gb news weather update. heavy rain will persist across nonh heavy rain will persist across north and western areas through today and into thursday. in fact, whereas in the east it will be much drier, brighter and for everyone, it's going to be feeling much milder through the rest of the week. but very heavy rain persist for parts of rain will persist for parts of nonh rain will persist for parts of north the lake district, north wales, the lake district, southern areas of scotland as well, dumfries well, particularly dumfries and galloway . seeing heaviest of galloway. seeing the heaviest of the further north. it the rainfall further north. it should stay largely dry, apart from blustery showers . from some very blustery showers. it will be very windy across northern scotland. gale force winds expected, but in the winds are expected, but in the south east it's going to be south and east it's going to be a dry afternoon. but a dry afternoon. breezy but still very with highs of 15 still very mild with highs of 15 or 16 degrees. if we do see any breaks in the cloud through tonight, the rain is going to persist in similar areas, so it will very overcast will stay very wet and overcast across north wales and many northern areas of england, particularly western particularly across western coasts here. and will see coasts here. and we will see some outbreaks of rain moving into southwest by thursday into the southwest by thursday morning. stay dry, morning. it should stay dry, though, north and in though, in the far north and in the southeast . and for everyone, the southeast. and for everyone, it's to another very

it's going to be another very mild the tomorrow. mild start to the day tomorrow. the to push the rain will continue to push into northern areas, but it will shift slowly but surely. further north into the central belt. some more northern areas of scotland seeing some rain later on day and we'll continue on in the day and we'll continue to see showers breaking out across southern of wales, across southern areas of wales, the well. these the southwest as well. these could quite heavy and be could turn quite heavy and be blustery but again , the far blustery too, but again, the far southeast should stay dry and bright and we could see highs of 17 degrees by that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers . inside from boxt boilers. >> sponsors of weather on gb news. >> now if you haven't british giveaway . yeah, if you haven't giveaway. yeah, if you haven't heard about these, you've been living under a rock or something because we've been giving lots of things away and this time is no different. we're giving away garden sprees garden gadgets, shopping sprees and cash? and how much cash? >> don't believe me? >> £12,345. don't believe me? have a look at this. >> we've got cash, treats and a spnng >> we've got cash, treats and a spring shopping spree to be won in a great british giveaway . you in a great british giveaway. you could win an amazing £12,345 in

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i >> -- >> i'm christopher hope, and i'm gloria de piero bringing you pmqs live here on gb news. every wednesday, we'll bring you live coverage of prime minister's questions. when rishi sunak and sir keir starmer go head to head in the house of commons, we'll be asking our viewers and listeners to submit the questions that they would like to put the prime minister and to put to the prime minister and we'll to our panel of we'll put that to our panel of top politicians in our westminster studio. that's pmqs live on gb news. britain's live here on gb news. britain's election . channel. election. channel. >> today, style day at the cheltenham festival . this ladies cheltenham festival. this ladies caught my eye today. brilliant picture of her gorgeous page of the daily telegraph and a magnificent hat there paul. >> yeah, it's good because then

you can take it off and you can rest your feet on it when you get home as well afterwards. it's one of those wonderful things say. things you say. >> day two of the cheltenham festival. let's go to our man there, carson. tell us there, jack carson. tell us more. jack >> yeah. morning to you >> yeah. good morning to you both. it's style wednesday both. well, it's style wednesday here at cheltenham festival. i think i've put on a decent bit of style as well to try and fit in with the crowd. the flat cap though firmly now with me. though firmly now one with me. but a fantastic but yesterday was a fantastic first of here at first day of action here at cheltenham festival. willie mullins course talked mullins of course we talked about didn't trying about him, didn't we? trying to go festival wins. go for a hundred festival wins. he's got a few under his he's already got a few under his belt from his runners yesterday, so well break that so he could well break that record today. and certainly hopefully he'll be thinking by the end of the week as well. of course, today is style day. it's renamed traditionally, course renamed traditionally, of course called day called women and ladies day women's day. but of course it's now style wednesday very much thinking from the jockey club and racecourse here, that and the racecourse here, that they wanted to kind of encourage slow they're calling it slow fashion. they're calling it fast slow fashion, fast horses, slow fashion, so encouraging rewear encouraging people to rewear pieces or hand—me—downs and

things like that. so that's why that name change has come from. but of course, we're also talking yesterday about the kind of animal rights protesters that always , kind of campaign around always, kind of campaign around these times, of these festivals , these times, of these festivals, of course, and wanting tougher and stricter regulation around horse racing. and yesterday we did unfortunately see the death of a horse, highland hunter, just after the 250 coming round. the final couple of hurdles. it was very quick. there was a black screen that went up and that horse was sadly confirmed to have died later on. but we spoke to nevin truesdale from the jockey club about horse welfare. here's what he told us. >> it's impossible to overstate the importance of welfare to the racing community, and how important equine welfare is. we have a moral obligation to make sure these horses are as well cared for as they can possibly be. as an industry, we've spent over 40 million in the last 20 years on welfare and improving welfare standards, not just on the tracks, but in the stables, on horse walks, at yards.

on the horse walks, at yards. really having absolutely at really having this absolutely at the of everything we do. the centre of everything we do. the simple that 99.82% the simple fact is that 99.82% of horses who go out to race come back perfectly safe and sound. come back perfectly safe and sound . and yes, one fatality is sound. and yes, one fatality is definitely one too many. but the measures we are taking in terms of the track setup, the jumps, the conditions races the conditions of the races that's constant review. we that's under constant review. we have body called have an independent body called the welfare board that the horse welfare board that set a strategy 4 or 5 years a strategy for this 4 or 5 years ago. we've been following that and been investing and we've been investing accordingly since . accordingly since. >> so it's clear there is obviously a strategy there. and all eyes once again will be on the racetrack here at cheltenham. >> thank you jack, i still prefer the lady's hat. the daily telegraph as well. so we spend up. it seems to be such a predictable pattern that we go to a big event and we talk about all the downside of it, the protests and the fatalities and all this sort of thing. >> there's two sides, of course, of it, but obviously it's a great day as well. i mean, it's a it's a great festival. >> well, i think when you use

that word festival like christmas being a festival or whatever, i think people are looking to think looking forward to it. i think it's miserable time of it's such a miserable time of the and we've spent three the year and we've spent three months to here. and even months to get to here. and even though as will testify, though as you will testify, isabel, it's very it's not isabel, it's not very it's not the best time of the year seasonally to get the odd beautiful day at cheltenham weather—wise, don't you? >> but most of the time you get the mixed bag. >> i don't know if that was yesterday or not, but it doesn't look to me. yeah was. yeah. look to me. yeah it was. yeah. >> it was it. i think they >> yeah it was it. i think they were generally dry yesterday though. was the lucky part. though. that was the lucky part. obviously was little muddy obviously it was a little muddy out i just worry about out there. i just worry about about with the about jack the way with the style of jack. i just wonder jack's going with that spiv look and just wonder everybody's and i just wonder everybody's going to him and try going to go up to him and try and place bets with him. it looks blinder. looks like mickey blinder. >> like he's from the >> he looks like he's from the peaky right? peaky blinders. right? >> now >> so champions league now there's draw there's going to be the draw this arsenal are going to this week. arsenal are going to be included in quarter final draw. >> they are porto. it was yesterday. so there were one nil down arsenal. it was expected that these tweets. that there were these tweets.

you was hashtag you see that it was like hashtag pray a lot of arsenal pray for porto. a lot of arsenal fans thought they were to fans thought they were going to walk over porto last night. it certainly a walkover, certainly wasn't a walkover, they go up into the they did go one nil up into the second just before second half just before the second half just before the second half. then it went to nil, but that was disallowed. it went to penalties went all the way to penalties and came through and arsenal came through for beautiful penalties and everything well. and everything went very well. and there's looking there's mikel arteta looking very there. black very happy there. captain black right very happy there. captain black riginot happy is emma raducanu >> not so happy is emma raducanu . and basically she's an indian wells. she's, she's already out of this competition. she is in california but she is complaining and i'm not sure this is a good look. but tell us it's balls. no, it's not that. it's balls. i'm just saying that it's balls. she's complaining. >> she's talking balls. yeah, yeah, yeah. talking about the balls there's different balls because there's different weights different tournaments. >> i didn't know that. yeah, because. they all to be because. but they all have to be the for a certain tournament. >> no, no don't. see, the >> no, no they don't. see, the thing is you've got for indian wells the manufacturer wells they use the manufacturer pen, are a different way pen, which are a different way to dunlop, you used in to dunlop, which you used in miami. which is in miami. slazenger which is in wimbledon. they have wimbledon. so they have to adjust that they play. adjust the way that they play.

and that's ridiculous. and she says that's ridiculous. >> know i tend to agree with >> i know i tend to agree with her with that. i mean, look, you know, when we were growing up, i mean, footballs were the same way. there was used to be able to in the shops. regulation to buy in the shops. regulation size yeah bobby moore size five. yeah the bobby moore football whatever. but football and whatever. but there's, regulation there's, there's regulation sizes worldwide. yes. >> size . the size is >> regulation size. the size is the same. yeah. but the weight is different on some of these balls. so she's saying that you have to adjust it. and some of the balls are heavier than the other ones. and then that's affecting injuries. i know it's been said before . so she's got been said before. so she's got bad wrists. >> just don't see why you >> i just don't see why you would have different balls for different yes. different tournaments. yes. >> courses and the >> horses for courses and the balls would be different. >> they shouldn't be different. >> they shouldn't be different. >> think and then >> i agree, i think and then you're with emma, you're with emma. >> t- t— e emma. i'm with emma. >> emma. i'm with emma >> i'm with emma. i'm with emma on that one. i'm very pleased, so board games, horsey board games. >> yeah. because thing is, >> yeah. because the thing is, if to cheltenham, if you can't get to cheltenham, there's. you can bring the cheltenham home. so cheltenham to your home. so there a game that we used to there was a game that we used to play. i don't know whether you remember this called theroff.

have at this. if this have a look at this. if this nngs have a look at this. if this rings bell. there it is now. rings a bell. there it is now. it was a record. there's a few of these. we used to have this. so it's you get a record and you would put you put the record. everybody on their everybody would bet on their horses. little horses. you get your little tickets. so you'd all have a little bet and then the needle would go record, but would go on the record, but there'd be different grooves for each the different each race. so the different recordings, there'd be a commentary. >> yes. >> yes. >> and you go, >> yes. » and you go, >> yes. >> and you go, so—and—so is >> and you go, and so—and—so is going to win. and so. and the thing is, you don't know which one so you put one it's going to be. so you put the depending on the the whatever depending on the groove then would well, groove and then that would well, it's for the whole family. it's fun for the whole family. it's fun for whole family. it's fun for the whole family. >> you didn't see anything. >> so you didn't see anything. it's like listening it on the it's like listening to it on the radio, correct? >> but it'd >> yeah, but it'd be on a record. i've still got it. maybe i'll it in for you. i'll bring it in for you. >> i used to have a game called. i think it was called formula one, by warrington. warrington. >> made that >> warrington made that warrington the warrington made to topple the other one. yeah. they all other one. yeah, yeah. they all made those sporting games made all those sporting games magnificent, magnificent. so how did that work. >> you got a little >> well you got a little dashboard you. that dashboard and you. what's that we're looking there. that's we're looking at there. that's the choppily. >> the that came

>> that's the topoli that came out in 1938. still make it now. >> i think that's incredible, but one get but like formula one used to get a dashboard you would do a dashboard and you would do your on it and your your speeds on it and your braking power and all that sort of and right, roll the of thing. and right, roll the dice. and it's very hard to explain, we enjoyed it. we explain, but we enjoyed it. we enjoyed was such that enjoyed it. there was such that was christmas. was such a thing at christmas. isabel. would see, see isabel. there you would see, see you up you get a game you open up and you get a game like that. >> that made christmas. that >> and that made christmas. that is christmas. >> horse racing in your >> it was horse racing in your own home. >> with like, kind of like >> yes. with like, kind of like the without the horses and the dog without the horses and the dog without the horses and the gg's. >> yes. >> yes. >> thank you very much indeed. we will a there, we will take a break there, paul we will take a break there, paul. for paul. appreciate it. thanks for this we've anne this morning, we've got anne diamond. going to be diamond. we're going to be talking to an, very, very shortly honour of safer sleep shortly in honour of safer sleep week. emotionally and week. she's very emotionally and personally attached this year, which to say. which she has to say. >> it's indeed been honoured >> and it's indeed been honoured for get all the latest for it. we'll get all the latest from

now, i'm very pleased to

introduce a very familiar face to you. now, our very own anne diamond course. a national treasure and an obe known for her decades long television career, but also a proud mother to five sons. >> i'm going to tell you the tale about one of them, this morning. and tragically lost her third son. he was sebastian . he third son. he was sebastian. he was just over four months old at the time . the year was 1991 and the time. the year was 1991 and the time. the year was 1991 and the cause of death was cot death. >> yeah. and since then, and his campaign to spread awareness and has herself been responsible for reducing cot deaths from 2500 a year to just 300. absolute, incredible. and, i was actually pregnant when i first met you with my first child, and you were doing the paper reviews with with eamonn and me and your story impacted me so much. i thought about you almost every day . i thought about you almost every day. i put thought about you almost every day . i put my thought about you almost every day. i put my baby down to thought about you almost every day . i put my baby down to sleep day. i put my baby down to sleep on his back and it was your back to sleep campaign that has

changed and saved all these lives. it's incredible. >> it is incredible . and it's so >> it is incredible. and it's so amazing. you're saying that because the incredible thing we discovered, we had to go all the way to new zealand to discover it because they were doing a lot of campaigning there was that it was a very simple message. but we at the time, in 1991, when i had sebastian, we were all told to sleep babies on their tummies. and that was the accepted practice. but we what we know it was really we didn't know it was really heightening the risk of cot death to all of those babies . it death to all of those babies. it doesn't mean that every baby sleeps on its tummy is going to die of cot death, but for some reason, it just meant that if we could give out that very, very simple message, put baby simple message, put your baby on his or her to sleep, the his or her back to sleep, the cot death rate plummeted . and cot death rate plummeted. and nobody, this day, nobody nobody, even to this day, nobody really why. the mechanism really knows why. the mechanism of cot death. what what changes it. but we just know that it works and there's no danger in sleeping your baby on his or her back, either. so do it . and you back, either. so do it. and you

severely reduce the risk of cot death happening to you and, dan, would it be right in saying that the risk of putting a baby on their stomach is suffocation ? their stomach is suffocation? well, no. i mean, they were there were a lot of post—mortems donein there were a lot of post—mortems done in the days when 2500 babies a year were dying, and they never really got to the conclusion. it's something to do with overheating. you sort of tend to overheat more if you're face down. i think even adults, if you sleep on your tummy, you tend to find that you tend to, go into a more deep sleep, from which may be some babies just can't pull themselves out of it . can't pull themselves out of it. and then there are other risk factors like, if there's any small infection in the, in the house at all in the family , then house at all in the family, then that's another sort of added thing that makes it difficult for the baby to maybe pull themselves out of a sleep . it's themselves out of a sleep. it's extraordinary that we still don't know the mechanism , but in don't know the mechanism, but in a, in a way we don't need to.

>> and, and do you mind if i ask you a little bit about sebastian, i just it really amazes me how a mother who can lose a child in such a shocking and unexpected way, so little, so precious, can then turn that grief into something so positive . how did you find the strength to get up , get . how did you find the strength to get up, get a camera . how did you find the strength to get up , get a camera crew, as to get up, get a camera crew, as you say, travel to the other side of the world and investigate all of this. >> tell you what i think it was anger more than anything. i was angry at sebastian for dying, you know, you feel like saying. god, i 32 years later and i can still get very, very upset about it. but you do. i was angry that he died and they didn't call out for me, i was angry that something that while he. while he was born and lived with me and slept and then died, they were actively campaigning in new zealand to try and stop this happening because they had a very high cot death rate there, they had the, lady, the anne

they had the, the lady, the anne diamond, if you like, of new zealand, a television presenter called judy bailey went on telly every night and said, if you're just about to put your baby down to sleep, put him on his or her back, tummy, this back, not the tummy, and this will help . and their cot death will help. and their cot death rate plummeted and i went out to new zealand and met her. and it was anger that drove me to come back demand that we have the back and demand that we have the same advert here, the same campaign. and of course, i got all this complete nonsense from the department of health saying, you oh, young do you know, oh, young mothers do not television. i was not watch television. i was told, and you know, that they would put a sort of, working party on it that would meet in five years time and look at the data and then i found out even worse was that we in britain had agreed. we knew what was going on in new zealand, and we'd agreed to be a control. in other words, while new zealand mums were being told how to save their lives, we actively their babies lives, we actively denied british that advice denied british mums that advice dunng denied british mums that advice during time that sebastian during the time that sebastian and others were dying. >> the education continued as

the memory of sebastian continues as well. the fact that you were awarded an obe in recognition of your work on this front , you're now fronting the front, you're now fronting the safer sleep week. can you tell us about that and what the message is ? message is? >> well, the message, it's just a way of reminding everybody because obviously there are new mothers and fathers all the time. there are the new generation are always going on who they won't know who who won't they won't know who who won't they won't know who am. they won't remember my who i am. they won't remember my personal so you just personal tragedy. so you just have keep reminding. and have to keep reminding. and safer week just about safer sleep week is just about reminding of the advice . reminding them of the advice. first the most important first of all, the most important thing should on thing is babies should sleep on his back and then watch his or her back and then watch out for not overheating them. there are lots of, of there are lots of, sort of tips to their sleeping to make their sleeping environment safer, but the environment much safer, but the most important one is back to sleep and has been now for 32 years. yeah, i think one of the other ones is to make sure their feet are touching the end of the cot so that the blankets don't go over their heads. that's right. when babies wriggle, they

tend to wriggle downwards and in the babies were the day, a lot of babies were found having wriggled found dead, having wriggled underneath duvet, they underneath their duvet, they shouldn't duvets either . i shouldn't have duvets either. i mean, there's lots and lots of advice if you just google safer sleep, you'll it. sleep, you'll get it. >> and other point i suppose >> and the other point i suppose to make it's helpful to to make is it's helpful to educate generations. because educate all generations. because when when i had my when i think when i had my babies, my mum would say he's not just stick on not settling, just stick him on his be much his tummy. he'll be much happier. what we with happier. that's what we did with you. we to say, well, you. and we had to say, well, things have changed. and you know, we know better know, you know, we know better than that. and you know, obviously she to obviously she she listened to me. educating me. but it's about educating everybody because not just everybody because it's not just the get their hands on the mums that get their hands on the babies. >> absolutely everybody who looks yeah. looks after a baby. yeah. doesn't matter how old. well and well good. well done. good. >> good with getting this >> good luck. with getting this message and sorry making message out and sorry for making you about that. but if it you talk about that. but if it saves lives then is the saves lives then that is the important thing. >> thank you very much indeed to. if you want to find out >> and if you want to find out more about anne's safer sleep week donate, you can visit week or donate, you can visit the website. the lullaby trust's website. that's lullaby trust.org uk lullaby trust .org .uk.

>> love, anne. really great talking to her and stay with us. we've got norman baker and renee hoenderkamp. they'll be here talking about what's making the news next. here on gb news

breakfast. >> norman baker and doctor renee hoenderkamp. and they've got stories making the headlines today. norman, i want to start with a, thames water bailout. a possibility of one. tell us the story. >> this is the lib dem mp, sarah olney , who has been demanding olney, who has been demanding the government to publish the contingency plan if thames water goes down the plughole as it were, and it's likely they might well do. and thames water, their view on the matter is that in order to keep their shareholders happy, notwithstanding, they have debts of about have got massive debts of about 14 billion. they want to pay their shareholders higher dividends to keep them happy,

and they want to put up water bills by 40. and i have to say, personally, i think water privatisation was the worst privatisation was the worst privatisation there was. and water be publicly owned. water should be publicly owned. and that these people and the idea that these people should out dividends, run up should pay out dividends, run up massive chuck sewage in massive bills, chuck sewage in our rivers and put up water bills is absolutely unacceptable. >> it should illegal. >> it should be illegal. >> it should be illegal. >> it should be illegal. >> i don't understand how you can paid dividends when can be paid dividends when you're poor service. >> particularly for >> well, particularly for something something something that's something which is as and is so crucial as water. and i think sarah olney is right. there be all public. and there should be all public. and i think personally, i think we should renationalise water industry. >> e thought >> well, they simply thought they cash cow, that, they were on a cash cow, that, that would get the, the that they would get the, the kickback from of this kickback from all of this without to invest. and without having to invest. and the trouble the whole, the the trouble is the whole, the whole state of, of thames water is decrepit and is obviously decrepit and falling down, but they don't adhere . it isn't the cash cow adhere. it isn't the cash cow they thought it would be. and they're not going to take any pain on it. norman that's the thing. >> no, we're going to take the pain. the people who have to buy the water, i wonder would the water, i wonder what would happen, say, well, we happen, if they say, well, we haven't got any money pay

haven't got any money to pay this any more, we're not interested this. i wonder interested in this. i wonder what the contingency plan, >> well, the contingency plan, that's wants that's what sarah only wants published. us that published. it would tell us that because what it will mean is, i think a whole lot of government money will have go into money will have to go into supporting because can't supporting it because we can't have so have the water turned off. so the government the the government will pay the bill, leading scientists bill, doctor, leading scientists are the covid are warning that the covid inquiry to be inquiry appears to be fundamentally is fundamentally biased and is failing examine the costs of failing to examine the costs of lockdown 100. >> and if anybody has watched any this inquiry , which is any of this inquiry, which is scheduled to go for years and scheduled to go on for years and cost billions , all it has looked cost billions, all it has looked at is, you know, should we have locked down sooner, faster, harder. it hasn't looked at the collateral damage. the children who have bigger mental health problems ever had the problems have ever had the 100,000 ghost children that never school. the never returned to school. the people died because people that died alone because they the treatment they didn't get the treatment that need. the cancer that they need. the cancer patients, patients that had patients, the patients that had their withdrawn. it's their treatment withdrawn. it's shocking . we need to scrap this shocking. we need to scrap this inquiry. countries have inquiry. other countries have had their inquiry done, dusted, finished moved on. we need finished and moved on. we need we need a cost analysis of everything that happened , both

everything that happened, both the people that died from covid and how could have been and how they could have been better protected but the better protected, but also the people weren't risk from people who weren't at risk from covid. there were lots of covid. and there were lots of those and how they important to examine inner machinations examine the inner machinations of government and those of government and how those decisions and decisions were made, and not least to expose how we were being by whatsapps . being governed by whatsapps. >> and those can be deleted or factory resets . can lots of them factory resets. can lots of them have suddenly be lost? well, it's just important, but will we actually do that is a question because these inquiries, i mean look at the ones in northern ireland events , they happen long ireland events, they happen long after the after the issues in question. >> they take years to, to be formulated . they're not formulated. they're not complete. and the report afterwards when everybody who's involved has long disappeared. so those who should be held to account will no longer be in office. >> well, we actually had a situation in that inquiry where one of the scientists, carol socorro, raised cancer patients being harmed, was told that we're not at that today. we're not looking at that today. please mean, it's please move on. i mean, it's a disgrace , on sunday, at the, the

disgrace, on sunday, at the, the saudi arabia, saudi, saudi arabia grand prix , we have arabia grand prix, we have norman, a new british formula one star. this guy is one to watch. his name's oliver berman, good looking lad , you'll see him good looking lad, you'll see him there in the red shirt. what have you got to tell us about oliver? >> i think this is great. someone who's 18. >> i think this is great. someone who's18. i don't >> i think this is great. someone who's 18. i don't know. he's the youngest ever formula one driver. or whether there's been anyone younger, but this is great, that he was younger. was he? that oliver berman, who was ours, course, in this country ours, of course, in this country has in a formula one has has been in a formula one car at age of 18. but the car at the age of 18. but the story in the sun, which is, i suppose, quite amusing, was that he his driving test by he failed his driving test by messing up at the lights too fast. >> probably too fast, too quick off the lights. >> yeah, that's that will fail you. >> what was brilliant about this young boy is the day before he'd qualified in pole position for formula two. completely different, car driven in a different, car driven in a different got a phone different way. he got a phone call stand in carlos call to stand in for carlos sainz, who appendicitis to sainz, who had appendicitis to say, pulling you out of say, we're pulling you out of that competition. now

that competition. you're now driving grand prix. he driving in the grand prix. he had hour to get used to had an hour to get used to the car only did not car and not only did he not crash it into the wall, which many the established drivers many of the established drivers do he do every single week, he actually started 11th and came in seventh. wow. amazing. it is amazing you think of the amazing when you think of the expertise and the experience, the experience that would be required to do all of this. >> and yet he did it and congratulations . and he's a name congratulations. and he's a name i think we'll be seeing and reading a lot more a lot more about let's talk about barbie, shall we? >> and perhaps an unlikely barbie now, a royal barbie, the queen, no less. and camilla says it's taken years off her, not a few years 50. >> it's very rare that i want to talk about barbie, as you know, but i actually thought this was a a nice doll. a really cute. it's a nice doll. it's not a young who's it's not a young thing. who's you something with an you know, 20 something with an amazing and taken amazing figure. and it has taken years off of her. but i think that's absolutely amazing. and i think good for her. >> it's a good likeness though. >> it's a good likeness though. >> we nailed likeness, >> we nailed the hair likeness, but for taking it but good for her for taking it in good. in such good. >> you know, humour and making

such brilliant quips about how it's taken off her. it's taken years off her. >> yeah, well, good for her. >> yeah, well, good for her. >> none of the royal doctors >> but none of the royal doctors photographing >> but none of the royal doctors photographinon. well, yeah. >> oh come on. well, yeah. i mean, since you mentioned that, what do you think about all of that scandal? >> oh, well, i mean, look, i mean, first thing to say about thatis mean, first thing to say about that is that, that she's entitled to princess is entitled to her own medical history to be problems, to be sorted out privately is nobody's business what's happening to her in terms of our health. i do think the palace over the many years has been very keen to send out photographs , which it supports photographs, which it supports itself, and to suppress photographs which are unhelpful. and i think some of the press this week has been about reacting to that long terme trend of the palace to try and manipulate the press. >> in other words, you're saying the picture agencies having revenge? >> i think there's plenty of reasons . and indeed, the reasons. and indeed, the tabloids week having tabloids this week were having revenge attitude revenge on that attitude from the palace. but that's completely different completely a different issue from that any health from making sure that any health problems have problems that the princess have are private . are kept private. >> i think they pushed her into

releasing photo it's releasing this photo and it's completely unravelled. think completely unravelled. i think they the poor girl they should leave the poor girl alone she actually alone before she actually considers, know, killing considers, you know, killing herself the pressure herself because the pressure on herself because the pressure on her has been her this week has been absolutely insane. she's not, well, recover . well, clearly let her recover. we wouldn't do this to just a member of the public who was unwell. you know, anyone in the spotlight insane media spotlight gets this insane media attention and it's social media, isn't these wild isn't it? it's these wild conspiracy theories that have dnven conspiracy theories that have driven this here. leave her alone. no i'm not sure. >> it is totally social media. i think these picture agencies have a lot to answer for, as if they've never put out a doctored picture before or what what they knew about or not. i think they're dictating what is going to be news and what's not news. and they were wanting more than what they actually got. so i think we'll have an inquiry into that will be will five years or so. 50. >> so. >> such a beautiful photo until they pick it. well, indeed. >> we've got a doctor. >> we've got a doctor. >> i've got to say goodbye to you, norman. thanks very much indeed.thank you, norman. thanks very much indeed. thank you. perpetuate it. much indeed, it. thank you very much indeed, annie shuttleworth. morning

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northern areas of england, particularly across western coasts and we will see coasts here. and we will see some outbreaks moving some outbreaks of rain moving into southwest by thursday into the southwest by thursday morning. should stay morning. it should stay dry, though, the far north and in though, in the far north and in the southeast. and for everyone, it's another very the southeast. and for everyone, it's start another very the southeast. and for everyone, it's start to another very the southeast. and for everyone, it's start to the mother very the southeast. and for everyone, it's start to the day|er very the southeast. and for everyone, it's start to the day tomorrow. mild start to the day tomorrow. the rain will continue to push into northern areas, but it will shift slowly but surely further north into the central belt. some more northern areas of scotland. seeing some rain later on in the day, we'll continue to see showers breaking out across southern wales , the southern areas of wales, the southwest as well. these could turn heavy and blustery turn quite heavy and be blustery too, but again, the far southeast stay dry and southeast should stay dry and bright and we could see highs of 17 degrees by. >> looks like things are heating up boxt boiler as sponsors of weather on

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, the 13th of march, and you are tuned into breakfast with eamonn holmes and isabel webster. >> nice to have you on board, the questions we're asking this morning, so long? morning, what took so long? pressure the prime minister pressure on the prime minister as another conservative racism row over a donor's row emerges over a donor's remarks over diane abbott . and remarks over diane abbott. and pretty strong they were to catherine. >> yes. pressure on the conservative party to give back the £10 million, no sign of that happening. but another very bad week for the prime minister. i'll bring you more shortly . i'll bring you more shortly. >> as the uk economy returns to growth, we'll be chatting with liam halligan about what that means as the prime minister looks to lead us out of recession . recession. >> subpostmasters, what's happening next? well, the government plans to introduce new legislation to quash their convictions. we should see that today. we'll let you know . today. we'll let you know. >> keir starmer promises dame esther rantzen. there will be a

vote on assisted dying if he wins the next election morning. >> they'll be very heavy rain across northwestern areas through the next few days, but elsewhere it will be very mild. find out all the details with me a little later . a little later. on. >> racist and wrong. that's how a spokesperson for the prime minister has branded the comments made by a major conservative donor about mp diane abbott and abbott being the first black woman elected to parliament. >> well, the comments were made by frank hester. he is one of the party's biggest donors. he's given £10 million recent given £10 million in recent years . and he told a meeting years. and he told a meeting that diane abbott and quote, that diane abbott and i quote, should and he also said should be shot. and he also said that made him i quote that she made him and i quote again, want to hate all black women. he has since apologised. >> however, it was the lack of immediate condemnation of his remarks which are now causing

the prime minister a bit of a political headache and possibly a financial one. >> should he be giving that cash back. let's get the thoughts this morning of our political correspondent katherine forster. as you say, another disastrous week minister this week for the prime minister this is what he wants to be is not what he wants to be talking about. on the morning that we've returned to growth . that we've returned to growth. >> they would like >> no, exactly. they would like to talking about the budget. to be talking about the budget. they'd like to be talking about cutting taxes. i'm sure they will be talking about quashing those convictions for the post office, postmasters. but of course, here we are yet again in the middle of another race row, only a couple of weeks after there was a delay in condemning lee anderson's comments. ultimately, they withdrew the whip. he's now gone to reform. that's another headache. for rishi sunak. but it is a bit of a pattern, isn't it? and the opposition will say this is simply weak leadership. again and again. politicians seem to

struggle with coming out to say what is obvious to millions of people. i think in this case, they hoped that it would die down. they didn't want to say it was racist, though. millions of people clearly say it absolutely is. they didn't want to sort of fan the flames of it. but in not coming out quickly and saying it was racist as they eventually did, or the prime minister's spokesman last night. what that has done has inflamed this story still further, as in all the questioning now is , well, what questioning now is, well, what has taken you so long? and labour and lib dems saying you need to give back that money now? £10 million is a lot of money. and frank hester is the conservative party's biggest donon conservative party's biggest donor. it's an election year. last year they were given $48 million and the line is he's apologised. he's very sorry for offence cause we need to forgive and move on. i would be as astonished if any of that money was returned , but i suspect they

was returned, but i suspect they won't be taking any more from him, and i suspect he won't be offering any more now that they've labelled his comments as racist. >> okay, catherine, with that, thanks very much indeed. let's get thoughts on and the get the thoughts on this and the rest day's news. of rest of the day's news. of course, with the shadow paymaster jonathan paymaster general, jonathan ashworth, who joins us this morning westminster. good morning from westminster. good morning from westminster. good morning start with morning to you. let's start with that we? do you that story, shall we? do you think that the £10 million should be handed and should be handed back? and is that would do? that what labour would do? because you're no because of course, you're no strangers to these of strangers to these kind of racism scandals in the party in the i they absolutely >> i mean, they absolutely should hand that money back. i think the comments were racist, reprehensible , absolutely reprehensible, absolutely staggering that rishi sunak took so to condemn them. but we so long to condemn them. but we do know he's a very weak leader, but he now needs to show some backbone and give this £10 million back. every single tory candidate, every tory mp who is delivering leaflets, who's putting advertising out putting facebook advertising out there, it is funded by this £10 million. so the decent thing to do in the circumstances is to hand this money back . if he

hand this money back. if he doesn't hand this money back, it really does show you the depths to which the tory party has sunk. and i think it would expose rishi sunak once again for being the weak leader that he unless , jonathan, could he is, unless, jonathan, could you not argue that if they took that used it for that money and they used it for anti—discriminatory anti racist, programmes, that would be a better use of it ? well, look, it better use of it? well, look, it shouldn't be tory party money if they've condemned this man's comments, which they have, they've said they're racist. i mean it was also sexist and, you know, sort of violence sort of, references in there. he's also, by the way, apparently today criticised people. people or used used pejorative words about people of indian heritage. if the tory party genuinely thinks that these are, comments were wrong and then condemned them, then they should put their money literally where their mouth is and hand the money back. but the fact that they're refusing to do that, i think, just reveals how weak and desperate rishi sunak

has become. >> let's talk about growth, shall it's something that shall we? it's something that the labour are to the labour party are keen to promote if and when you get into power, but the chancellor will be very pleased to see that in january economy nought january the economy grew nought point 2. it looks like this recession that was announced last month will be very short and shallow. your your thoughts about that ? about that? >> oh well, people are really feeling the squeeze , aren't feeling the squeeze, aren't they? people are. i mean people are feeling skint, they? people are. i mean people are feeling skint , frankly. are feeling skint, frankly. sorry my earpiece keeps popping out, but people are really feeling really feeling skint. they're paying more in tax. their energy bills have gone up. their energy bills have gone up. their mortgage has gone up thanks to the wreckage of the economy of the liz truss budget and course, the now and of course, the tories now are proposing a big unfunded £46 billion plan with no idea how to pay billion plan with no idea how to pay for it. that will again cause chaos on the money markets putting mortgages up. or it potentially means pensioners paying potentially means pensioners paying more in tax and the future of pensioners savings is at peril. i really do think five

years, five more years of the conservatives will mean the economy , worsens, living economy, worsens, living standards hammered and pensioners losing out . pensioners losing out. >> and that's something jonathan, it's an interesting point. you raise there , point. you raise there, pensioners maybe in the past historically , they may have felt historically, they may have felt safer with the conservatives but obviously not the case. now, you looked at the budget last week and you saw, holes in that budget and you could see a lot millions of pensioners actually , millions of pensioners actually, an average of £1,000 a year worse off. what can you do about that ? that? >> well, as we know, rishi sunak and loves whacking up tax on depher and hard working people and many pensioners are paying more in tax as a consequence of his plans. but if they go along this road of a £46 billion unfunded commitment, it severs the link between your contributions and your state pension. my mum would always say

she's paid her stamps for the state pension. well, they're ending the system where people pay ending the system where people pay their stamps. so will pay their stamps. so how will people get state pension people get their state pension in future ? and if they come in the future? and if they come on your programme and argue, oh, don't worry. not don't no worry. it's not unfunded. a merged unfunded. it's a new merged income tax national income tax with national insurance. that pensioners insurance. that means pensioners paying insurance. that means pensioners paying on their savings . so paying tax on their savings. so i'm warning today that the state pension as we know it, and pensioners savings as we as they know them are in peril. if the tories get five more years in power. >> do you think it's interesting this shift to the right of the labour party, particularly when it comes to pensioners? and i think you've said in the past that you would try to keep the triple lock if get into triple lock if you get into power. i this is something power. i mean, this is something that conservatives have long that the conservatives have long wanted but labour have wanted to do. but labour have always this is a bad deal always said this is a bad deal for the young who are footing the in this. the bill in all of this. traditionally your voters. but you're your tune in you're now changing your tune in all listen, people watch . the >> listen, people watch. the programme will have worked hard all their life for their pension , and there are people today who

work hard, expecting a decent pension in retirement because and they're paying their stamps, as would describe it. and as my mum would describe it. and of course they're paying into the pension as well . the the works pension as well. the tory mean that state tory plans mean that state pension that works pension pension and that works pension and any savings will be taxed potentially in the future because of their £46 billion commitment. and it also means that people now paying a pension, the link between what you pay pension, the link between what you pay and what you get out at the end will be severed under tory plans . and i think tory plans. and i think conservative ministers need to explain what this means for pensioners in the future and what the state pension would look like if the tories get in after the next election . after the next election. >> jonathan, thank you very much indeed. sorry about your earpiece, look forward to speaking to you again soon. thank you very much. >> at britain's newsroom, coming up andrew pierce and up at 9:30, andrew pierce and bev turner will be here to then. but the moment, just you, but at the moment, just you, andrew. indeed, we're andrew. yes indeed, we're talking rwanda because talking about rwanda because it's back in news, because it's back in the news, because the government are now saying, look , whether they're ever going

look, whether they're ever going to plane off the ground to to get a plane off the ground to rwanda a migrants. rwanda for a legal migrants. >> they're saying to >> but they're now saying to migrants lost their migrants who've lost their asylum they'll be asylum claim here, they'll be given £3,000 to to given £3,000 to relocate to rwanda , which is interesting to rwanda, which is interesting to a point, i hadn't realised a point, but i hadn't realised that we pay people £3,000 who have cases who fail to have asylum cases who fail to relocate back to their country, so we're paying people to go back.even so we're paying people to go back. even though their asylum claim was bogus in the first place. really interesting. >> and how does that not become a pull factor? people go, i know what, i'll go and get another three grand and paid to go three grand and get paid to go home money making scheme. >> but but but i mean, if >> yeah, but but but i mean, if it's that easy to send people to rwanda, why are we going through all agony in house of lords? >> well, obviously it's not that easy. to show easy. they want to show physically doing and physically someone doing it and thinking, whole thinking, and then the whole idea , the image breaks down idea, the image breaks down about and people say, well, about it and people say, well, people and people have done it before and whatever. this idea whatever. but also this idea that paid £3,000 just to that you're paid £3,000 just to hang around here you hang around here because you might not be able to go back to, you know, africa exactly . yeah. you know, africa exactly. yeah. >> you, you might be gay

>> because you, you might be gay or might be a christian. or you might be a christian. whatever. they've or you might be a christian. whateup'. they've or you might be a christian. whats up with. they've or you might be a christian. whats up with. mean, they've or you might be a christian. whats up with. mean, do hey've or you might be a christian. whats up with. mean, do you ve come up with. i mean, do you know andrew? know what, andrew? >> know the half of it. >> we don't know the half of it. we don't know who's here. we don't know why they're here. we don't know why they're here. we don't they're being don't know what they're being paid, don't know what we paid, and we don't know what we can do them and how many can do about them and how many are working illegally. >> a shambles. also >> yeah, it's a shambles. also talking. it's really talking. i think it's really important. story on the important. big story on the front of telegraph front page of the telegraph today in today keir starmer in conversation with, dame esther rantzen, will, as rantzen, saying that he will, as prime bring forward prime minister, bring forward legislation enable the to legislation to enable the law to change on assisted dying. it would a free vote, of course, would be a free vote, of course, but that a landmark moment. but that is a landmark moment. >> yeah, and that could see the law change end the law change by the end of the decade. there are lots of decade. and there are lots of people do have concerns people who do have concerns about i he said his about that. i mean, he said his own personal opinion is would own personal opinion is he would be in favour of it, but people worry could undue pressure worry could put undue pressure on people. worry could put undue pressure on and le. worry could put undue pressure on and ia. worry could put undue pressure on and i think it's in the >> and i think it's in the netherlands now. they've got assisted they talk about assisted dying. they talk about bringing children aged bringing it in for children aged between if they're between 1 and 12. if they're terminally not sure terminally ill. i'm not sure that's people about that's what people think about assisted dying. it for children? >> well, that's the thing. >> well, that's the thing. >> and people the thin end >> and people use the thin end of the wedge argument. but it

certainly seems in countries where it's already legal belgium, rules are belgium, holland, the rules are changing. widened. changing. it's being widened. >> so, so stringent and also post office. >> law is going to change, >> yes, law is going to change, so they'll finally get their convictions so they'll finally get their con parliament it rather >> parliament doing it rather than never happened before. >> yeah, but many of them >> yeah, but how many of them will get it. >> everybody get it. who >> will everybody get it. who are they still supposed supposed to every single one of them. >> every single one of them. really? this really? yeah everyone. so this is. only ten pages of is. and it's only ten pages of legislation the bill is only legislation of the bill is only ten pages, ten clauses. they should that through should get that through really quickly . quickly. >> yeah. although there will be the person they're to the odd person they're going to genuinely of actual genuinely convicted of actual crimes magically they crimes who will magically they were exonerated. but you know what? for the greater good, the greater good. we'll that on greater good. we'll take that on the chin, i think so interesting. all right. we'll look forward to programme. look forward to the programme. 9:30. much. 9:30. thanks very much. >> offered a job >> but if you were offered a job as a postmaster, you take as a postmaster, would you take it? no. just can't imagine. it? no, no. just can't imagine. i just don't know how they would recruit that area. maybe some recruit in that area. maybe some of migrants. of the illegal migrants. >> postmaster >> the postmaster used to be a stalwart community, the stalwart of the community, the doyen trust them and doyen people who trust them and the office have managed to

the post office have managed to destroy . destroy. >> you see that word? you used community. that's exactly what it's because don't it's about. because we don't have that are now part of have shops that are now part of the community that we would go and visit, and we'd talk to people we know everything they know. >> if mrs. so—and—so hadn't turned up for a morning paper, they'd they'd they'd worrying they'd have someone the house. someone go round the house. absolutely, right. someone go round the house. absabsolutely right. right. someone go round the house. absabsolutely right. really. >> absolutely right. really important. andrew. important. thanks, andrew. appreciate much. >> right. time for our spring great giveaway. your great british giveaway. your chance gadgets, chance to win gadgets, a shopping spree and a whole host of . of cash. >> once a winner. >> once be a winner. >> once be a winner. >> you've won £18,000. >> you've won £18,000. >> i'm sleepy. nick, i don't know what to say. >> enter a massive spring giveaway with three big seasonal pnzes giveaway with three big seasonal prizes to be won. there's £12,345 in tax free cash to give your finances a spring boost. we'll also send you on a shopping spree with £500 worth of vouchers to spend in the store of your choice. you'll also get a garden gadget package for another chance to win the vouchers. the treats and £12,345 in tax free cash. text gb win to

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morning is. what? >> well, we're out of recession , >> well, we're out of recession, hopefully. well, actually, i don't take my word for it. we're back into growth. that's all i know. 0.2% growth in january. liam is the number cruncher. >> not 2, but nought point. >> not 2, but nought point. >> it matters because it. well, liam, are we out of recession or not? >> isabel, much as i'd love to give you the good news, as it were, we're not quite out of recession, but this is good news. so what is a recession? it's two successive quarters of negative growth quarters , three negative growth quarters, three month periods. and we had that. and now we've had one month, not a quarter of positive growth. let's have a look at the scores on the doors. as larry grayson used to say ageing myself. there we see the gdp numbers . what is we see the gdp numbers. what is gdp gross domestic product. all the goods and services produced in an economy from july to september, gdp was nought point 1% paltry growth above the same penod 1% paltry growth above the same period in 2022. from to october november, it was 0.3% lower than

october to december 2022. there's your recession. two successive quarters of negative growth. we've now had news this morning from the office for national statistics in january. voila. plus nought point 2, so not out of recession but certainly if we do that in february and march, positive growth will be out of recession. and all this feeds into the interest rate decision that the bank of england will be making on thursday , next thursday. on thursday, next thursday. that's the 21st of march. what does this mean for interest rates? it probably means that the bank of england will feel less pressure to lower interest rates if you lower interest rates, it boosts the economy. the fact that the economy is in recession may have made some of the nine economists at the bank of england, the monetary policy committee, think, oh, we're in recession, people are suffering. maybe should lower interest maybe we should lower interest rates because the rates now, but because the economy again, economy is growing again, they'll oh, we can afford they'll think, oh, we can afford to not cut interest rates because still a little because we are still a little bit worried about wage inflation. are still a little

inflation. we are still a little bit about oil prices bit worried about oil prices going more price going up and more price pressures in the pipeline, but very fine lines. >> the team in the monetary >> but the team in the monetary policy committee will be looking at all the little details of all the little details. >> the ups and downs are services production down services up 0.2, production down 0.2. what does that mean? >> this really? yeah this really is a tale of two economies. but it's been this way. you know, for, for many years in the uk, the service sector is doing pretty well. the services are almost 4/5. almost 80% of our economy . me because businesses economy. me because businesses are getting back up and running. there's more positive business sentiment, a sense that the cost of living crisis is at least the worst is over. though of course lots of people are still suffering, but manufacturing is still time . lots still having a hard time. lots of supply chains issues still there. a lot of manufacturers who contact me really screaming about ongoing, really high energy costs, electricity prices, house buildings come back a little bit in january, which is good news. but

consumers what these figures show, what the fine print shows, is that consumers in general consumer facing services. so leisure, hospitality and things like that, the trend is there's still some 6% adrift of where they were before the pandemic, 6% adrift, not 0.6. it's a very big number in economics. so our consumer, our society has still not properly recovered. now people say, oh, you walk around london. i was in the west end last night. yeah yeah. there's lots of activity in the centre of some of our big prosperous cities. but across the regions, in towns , consumer flat on his in towns, consumer flat on his or her back in many cases because they're worried about making ends meet i don't know. >> so you live in harrogate right. and you. >> that's posh yorkshire >> but that's posh yorkshire isn't not. it's not. no isn't it? it's not. it's not. no no no no no i'm, i'm saying your train fare to london okay. >> your overnight accommodation. on ticket oh yeah. your theatre ticket which is around £150. >> it's £500 for a couple isn't it. unbelievable. it's

unbelievable amount of money to spend. >> i think people feel what you're talking about. that 6. and i wonder, are they window shopping in london as opposed to doing, doing anything else. you know, the experience. know, they get the experience. but it. but that's it. >> i think there's some of that going but think families >> i think there's some of that goi|saving3ut think families >> i think there's some of that goi|saving up think families >> i think there's some of that goi|saving up for1ink families >> i think there's some of that goi|saving up for treats milies >> i think there's some of that goi|saving up for treats rather are saving up for treats rather than routinely doing nice things. you know, just anecdotally, a lot people are anecdotally, a lot of people are talking to me. oh, we stayed in and played a board game or we stayed and rather than stayed in and cooked rather than going for a meal, as tend going out for a meal, as we tend to week a month. to once a week or once a month. a of people are hardly . a lot of people are hardly. >> it's absolutely all of it's really hard. and you talk about that when is it that 6% adrift. when is it likely? are ever likely likely? when are we ever likely to feel the way we did ten years ago? >>i ago? >> i don't eamonn you asked me. honestly, i don't think we're going to feel the way we felt before. while the tax burden remains at 70 year high, this remains at a 70 year high, this is not ideological point i'm is not an ideological point i'm making all. it's a it's making at all. it's a it's a point of arithmetic. if more of your money is taken in taxation. and of course, we've seen headune and of course, we've seen headline cuts in national insurance, haven't we? we've been them. had been talking about them. we had 12 to january, 10 to 8%

12 to 10% in january, 10 to 8% on the main rate of national insurance coming in in april. they're quite chunky changes, but completely blown but they are completely blown away by the increase in the tax burden because those thresholds have been frozen. and as people's wages and prices go up, they get dragged into higher tax brackets . well, that's really brackets. well, that's really casting a pal. there's a good word, pa xl on the economy, my friend. >> we say goodbye to you. we thank you for your input there. >> we thank you for i'll be back as arnie said, pro comes back at six in the morning. >> see you then . >> see you then. >> see you then. >> that warm feeling inside and from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news. >> good morning. welcome to your latest gb news weather update. heavy rain will persist across north and western areas through today and into thursday. in fact, whereas in the east it will be much drier, brighter for and everyone it's going to be feeling much milder through the rest of the week. but very heavy

rain will persist for parts of nonh rain will persist for parts of north wales. lake district, north wales. the lake district, southern of scotland as southern areas of scotland as well, dumfries and well, particularly dumfries and galloway, the heaviest of galloway, seeing the heaviest of the further north. it the rainfall further north. it should stay largely dry, apart from very blustery showers. from some very blustery showers. it will be very windy across northern gale force northern scotland. gale force winds are expected, but in the south east it's going to be south and east it's going to be a dry afternoon. breezy but still mild with highs of 15 still very mild with highs of 15 or degrees. if do see any or 16 degrees. if we do see any breaks in the cloud through tonight, the rain is going to persist similar areas, so it persist in similar areas, so it will stay very wet and overcast across north wales and many northern england, northern areas of england, particularly western particularly across western coasts and will see coasts here. and we will see some outbreaks of rain moving into southwest by thursday into the southwest by thursday morning. should dry, morning. it should stay dry, though, far north and in though, in the far north and in the everyone, the southeast. and for everyone, it's be another very it's going to be another very mild to the day tomorrow. mild start to the day tomorrow. the rain continue to push the rain will continue to push into northern areas, but it will shift slowly but surely. further north into the central belt. some more northern areas of scotland some rain later scotland seeing some rain later on the we'll continue to on in the day, we'll continue to see showers breaking out across

southern areas of wales, the southwest these could southwest as well. these could turn heavy and be blustery turn quite heavy and be blustery too, again , the far too, but again, the far southeast should stay dry and bright and we could see highs of 17 degrees by. >> looks like things are heating up boxt boilers as sponsors of weather on gb news. >> hey good morning. we've got a lot to talk about this morning. rwanda. now there's talk of failed asylum seekers being sent there with £3,000 in their back pocket voluntarily. >> so that means the courts and the house of lords and all the other hand—wringing liberals can't object to it. but who knew we giving £3,000 to people we were giving £3,000 to people whose claims to go whose asylum claims failed to go back where they came from back to where they came from just to die? >> assisted dying sir keir starmer clear between the starmer clear water between the two starmer says two parties here. starmer says that will give a vote on that he will give a vote on assisted

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wednesday, the 13th of march. this is britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pierce and bev turner. very good morning . turner. very good morning. >> thank you forjoining us. so a rwanda, is it a bribe to leave 7 a rwanda, is it a bribe to leave ? what should we do with failed asylum seekers? well, now they could £3,000 to move could be offered £3,000 to move voluntarily rwanda . your voluntarily to rwanda. your taxes will pay for it. it's a lot cheaper than putting people in hotels, isn't it? so maybe it's a good idea. do you think? >> and finally, subpostmasters wrongly convicted during the honzon wrongly convicted during the horizon it scandal are going to have their convictions automatically automatically quashed under a landmark new law being introduced today not by the courts but by parliament. but will be enough for the but will that be enough for the victims of this terrible miscarriage of justice? >> and should you be allowed to on your own terms, should you be allowed to die? so keir starmer has promised that there will be a vote on assisted dying if labour win the election, would it have your support and puberty blockers blocked?

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