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religion and belief expression, religion and belief when they are threatened, facing down harassment and hate, supporting the communities facing the greatest challenge from extremist activity and ensuring this house and this country free and united. >> meanwhile, angela rayner says she would like to see diane abbott brought back as a labour mp. former shadow home secretary mr abbott is currently an independent mp after she had the whip withdrawn following remarks she made in the observer last year over racism. there have been calls for her to have the whip restored since the race row erupted this week. office for national statistics staff could strike after being asked to work from the office for two days a week. it's understood staff have been allowed to work from home since the start of the covid lockdowns, but they're now being asked to return to the office on sundays . a spokesperson said the sundays. a spokesperson said the ons hybrid working model, ons has a hybrid working model, andifs ons has a hybrid working model, and it's enforcing the rules to balance business and personal needs , and the prince of wales needs, and the prince of wales has expressed concerns about the
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second she's back, she says, personal. i would like to see diane abbott back in the labour party group if it has to follow procedures. yesterday mr abbott asked starmer directly and he ignored her. this is what he said to journalists today . said to journalists today. >> the comments that have been made about diane abbott by the tory donor hs2 are abhorrent, they're racist, they're misogynistic. >> there is a separate issue, which is about the investigation into diane abbott herself. diane abbott has suffered an incredible amount of abuse over many, many years, and we must support her. but the two issues are separate . are separate. >> there is a gaping wound in the labour party here. other labour politicians want the mp for hackney north and stoke newington back to apsana. begum said it loud and proud on the bbc last night. >> absolutely she should have the whip restored, she is a
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trailblazer and jess phillips has told sky's beth rigby for it to end in this sort of sticky horror where everybody's fighting just seems a real shame. >> so i would much prefer to see diane abbott have the whip restored. remember that diane abbott lost the whip for what many regarded as racist remarks about jews and travellers she used to support the ira. reportedly, she's praised chairman mao. she loves jeremy corbyn. starmer's deputy leader wants her back. so does the labour left. what does he do.7 he labour left. what does he do? he can't say. it's a changed labour party with abbott back. that's a problem. yesterday labour tried to sneak andy macdonald's return under the radar after his riveted the sea remark. starmer caved into pressure from the left. there that's a problem. but labour are divided over gaza and i dare say foreign policy in the middle east in general. that's another problem . nearly that's another problem. nearly 100 mp5 that's another problem. nearly
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100 mps would have rebelled over the gaza ceasefire . starmer got the gaza ceasefire. starmer got a massive let off, not being hauled before the privileges committee for allegedly leaning on lindsay hoyle. he was on speaker lindsay hoyle. he was very lucky. there was old beer korma. one day the teflon will wear off trans issues. starmer wants to ban men and women's sports, but he's got prominent backbenchers like angela eagle saying stuff like this . saying stuff like this. >> labour will offer the country to pick up legislating to protect the lgbt community with a comprehensive , trans inclusive a comprehensive, trans inclusive ban on conversion therapy. i would have liked to get it done soonen would have liked to get it done sooner. it will happen. we just have to make progress and it's very sad that , as honourable very sad that, as honourable friend said, it has taken longer than the brexit negotiations . than the brexit negotiations. >> that's a problem for him. labour dropped its £28 billion green pledge. massive disquiet on the backbenches. they've got a problem on the climate. the likes of clive lewis were up in arms about it. economic competence. there's no money really for labour to spend if they get into government . rachel
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they get into government. rachel reeves has just made a massive clanger in her tax calculations . clanger in her tax calculations. there will be a rebellion when mps see that they are just another austerity party. massive problem and who will these mps be? and this is the crucial point for me. if labour does win a landslide, who will the new mps be? a load of student activists and froot loops. what's the vetting process? new labour mp in wellingborough and kitchen university. local councillor, charity worker . new councillor, charity worker. new labour mp for mid bedfordshire alastair strathern linked to greenpeace. who can forget charlie rowley in rochdale as well? anti—semitic conspiracy theories there . the new labour theories there. the new labour mp for kingswood, damien egan, is so obsessed with identity politics he changes his accent depending on where he is . depending on where he is. >> if we're celebrating lewisham small businesses, our borough is lucky that we've got one of the highest number of small independent businesses in the whole london. to our whole of london. i went to our lady lourdes and went to lady of lourdes and went to hanham high i was young. we hanham high when i was young. we were homeless and lived in
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were made homeless and lived in temporary accommodation. were made homeless and lived in tenif)rary accommodation. were made homeless and lived in tenif keir accommodation. were made homeless and lived in tenif keir starmerodation. were made homeless and lived in tenif keir starmer is ation. were made homeless and lived in tenif keir starmer is struggling >> if keir starmer is struggling to control his party now, how's he going to manage it when he's got 400 or so student activists, charity sector eco fanatic, anti—israel pro, trans labour mp sitting behind him who would rather angela rayner was in charge? that is a problem. let's get the thoughts now of my panel get the thoughts now of my panel. i've got daily telegraph columnist allison pearson, conservative peer lord bailey and former labour party adviser matthew laser. allison, i'll start with you. angela rayner has blown another gaping hole in the labour party today. i think she i think we can see that we focus a lot, don't we, on the terrible fissures and the tory party. >> but this absolutely shows the cracks in the labour party. you have got keir starmer holding the line on, on diane abbott. i mean, it's a very strange situation isn't it, patrick, where diane abbott undoubtedly has been the victim of racism. what the tory donor, frank hester said was, i mean, absolutely horrible. let's face
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it, saying that diane abbott made him want to hate all black women, so that was pretty dreadful. but then to then start people in the party to start claiming that you get diane abbott back, who was herself, delivered racist remarks in november, saying that jews were not the victim of racism, even though 6 million of them died in the concentration camps because the concentration camps because the nazis didn't like their race. so it's a very fraught situation, i think that, you know , it's putting pressure, as know, it's putting pressure, as you said, every issue now puts pressure on starmer, who's trying to hold the blairite line . but you've got angela rayner, and particularly you've got some of the fruitcakes on the backbenches who come out and put she's going to have potentially like hundreds more of them. >> this is a thing for sure. >> this is a thing for sure. >> look, the reason you won't be able to hold a line, this is not like when blair took over. blair took over in a very different environment. starmer's took over in a very different enviro over1t. starmer's took over in a very different enviro over is starmer's took over in a very different enviro over is the starmer's took over in a very different enviro over is the labour starmer's took over in a very different enviro over is the labour partyler's taken over is the labour party that was built by the likes of corbyn to become labour mp.
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corbyn to become a labour mp. what do, you go to what you do, you go to a selection and you display how much hate tories. much you hate the tories. and one ways to do that one of the key ways to do that is to talk about some very fringe issue that you believe tories couldn't support. in tories couldn't support. and in you problem about you come. but a problem about that now built up a that he's now built up a coalition of disgruntled people who be who will continue to be disgruntled. and say this as disgruntled. and i say this as a mark of respect. labour mps are brave. they've decided brave. they once they've decided i'm not going to get a job, let's be clear, one of his real control mechanisms is you'll never be a minister once they've decided they don't want that job. they are very brave. you take diane abbott, she said many of whom disagree with. but she of whom i disagree with. but she said she's out and said them. she's come out and said them. she's come out and said them. she's come out and said them and he will find that he group of people sat he has a group of people sat behind him who are mouthy beyond belief. yeah >> matthew, you've got the deputy of the labour deputy leader of the labour party now with load of other party now with a load of other people coming in over the top with her saying, give diane back the well, that's not what, that's not what angela rayner said. >> what angela rayner says is that she'd like to see diane back, but the process needs to run its course. look, this has
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been awful week for politics, been an awful week for politics, let's not forget away from the fact that the conservative party have at least £10 million have taken at least £10 million from who makes comments from a man who makes comments that minister that the prime minister describes would describes as racist. sean, would you happy to deliver you are you happy to deliver leaflets are paid for by leaflets that are paid for by this guy? >> actually, i the money >> actually, i think the money should should support should stay and should support black so yes, i do. black candidates. so yes, i do. >> okay, well, well, that's not what that's not what they're doing. they're paying for leaflets to attack the tories. so people can't so look people people can't forget this this tory forget the, the this this tory donor that diane abbott donor said that diane abbott should should die. should be shot. should die. okay. just let me finish. patrick so what he said that patrick so what he said is that he thinks that diane should he thinks that that diane should be so therefore, heart be shot. so therefore, the heart of people's of the labour party, people's feelings use feelings of comradeship to use a very labour word towards very labour party word towards diane running high this diane are running high this week. effectively want to week. people effectively want to give diane a hug. what diane said her comments were crass said in her comments were crass and wrong, but didn't call and wrong, but she didn't call for to be shot . so what for anybody to be shot. so what angela said today what keir angela said today is what keir has well , is angela said today is what keir has well, is that the has said as well, is that the labour party's disciplinary procedure needs to take its course so that her crass and wrong comments can be dealt with. >> there's things that keir >> there's two things that keir
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starmer trying time. starmer is trying to buy time. so diane has, retired, so diane abbott has, retired, stepped you know, before stepped off, you know, before before this happens. that's the real and let's talk about real thing. and let's talk about paying real thing. and let's talk about paying donations . you've paying back donations. you've had major party donors had major labour party donors who called hamas, freedom who have called hamas, freedom fighters who. yeah. del vince. there you go. del. vince. he said, one man's, terrorist. >> he hasn't he doesn't. del vince does not support hamas. >> never was even asked to pay the money back. let's talk about just stop oil then. he supports them wholeheartedly. they've been absolutely devastated. >> there's a difference between supporting just stop and supporting just stop oil and calling for death of an mp. calling for the death of an mp. >> not really. really. when >> not really. not really. when you've, you know, really when you've, you know, really when you've hamas you've called hamas freedom fighters, afraid. no. so he fighters, i'm afraid. no. so he did not that he did. he said did not say that he did. he said one man. >> yeah. that's it's a well known phrase he didn't say known phrase that he didn't say that he thought they were freedom that he thought they were freewell, i'll tell you something >> well, i'll tell you something now , that's people read now, if that's how people read that the point is, that statement. the point is, you a labour mp much more you take a labour mp much more seriously. if when they messed up, for money seriously. if when they messed up, not for money seriously. if when they messed up, not when money seriously. if when they messed up, not when toriesey seriously. if when they messed up, not when tories did. back. not only when tories did. i it's been. i think it's been. >> i think it's been a one reason it's been not been spoken
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about really. been about really. it's been a dreadful week, matthew said, dreadful week, as matthew said, but been dreadful because but it's been dreadful because it's on these it's going on and on these people racism, racism, racism, diversity, diversity, inclusion, inclusion, identity, diversity, diversity, inclusion, inclusiothis identity, diversity, diversity, inclusion, inclusiothis allidentity, diversity, diversity, inclusion, inclusiothis allidentitgoing politics this is all we're going to we've got a country to get. we've got a country where can't get medical where you can't get a medical appointment. you know, our energy security is rubbish. our military apart. and military is falling apart. and all things they argue about all the things they argue about the time is racist. the whole time is racist. >> absolutely. the tories could have this down by sending have closed this down by sending the spending the money back or spending or sending it to a charity. >> not even a particularly racist. >> nobody said that. >> nobody said that. >> nice country. but it's every you turn on news? you turn on any news? >> but, alison, you said it yourself. mean, what he said yourself. i mean, what he said was absolutely abhorrent. and the the tories the tour, remember the tories defended for 12 hours, sean. defended it for 12 hours, sean. it's defended they it's always defended it. they did. come on. they went out on tuesday morning defended tuesday morning and defended it. >> enough? >> did they act quickly enough? no, run out and no, i would have run out and said is a racist. exactly. said this is a racist. exactly. but let's be very clear. if you want talk racism, even diane want to talk racism, even diane abbott's own case, she's in this position racist position because she made racist comments. where was the argument? comments. where was the argumen suspended her and she >> they suspended her and she remained suspended. >> it's not even arguably just that about diane abbott as well.
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i stuff she said about i mean, the stuff she said about chairman that chairman mao, the fact that she's, denounced she's, you know, never denounced anything, as tell. anything, as far as i can tell. i mean, i'm willing to stand corrected on this about jeremy corbyn his rhetoric. corbyn and some of his rhetoric. >> spent her formative years >> she spent her formative years on of jeremy's moped. on the back of jeremy's moped. >> she said that was beautifully described. she said problem >> she she, she said the problem with people with britain is white people come if you're going to come on. so if you're going to i want to be very clear about this. look i don't agree with diane things. was well diane on many things. was well beyond the pale. it racist. beyond the pale. it was racist. i'll the argument that i'll even hear the argument that the pm should have out the pm should have came out stronger. of he should stronger. of course he should not pretend. and the money should back. let's not should go back. party. let's not pretend that labour party pretend that the labour party haven't and also not haven't done this and also not paid the money back. >> bigger >> so matthew, the bigger picture let's say starmer picture here, let's say starmer gets majority. gets his big majority. absolutely. okay. right and then if ever have election if we ever have an election then yeah, have election yeah, if you have an election which is going to be which definitely is going to be on of may now. but on the 2nd of may now. but anyway, and look at the anyway, and you look at the people are behind him people that are behind him there, you're going to be, you know, activists. know, student activists. absolutely know, people absolutely not. you know, people who've out uni, who've gone straight out of uni, done a of rattling the cans done a bit of rattling the cans of charity, worked local of charity, worked at a local council and then those people my
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point for this, my point for this is those people are not going men in going to be pro banning men in women's those people are women's sports. those people are not to saying, well, not going to be saying, well, the all we need. yeah, the leader is all we need. yeah, but but he's going to have all these people behind him. >> actually it's >> look, actually look, it's very boring subject, but but the labour selection procedure labour party selection procedure is controlled by by keir is more controlled by by keir starmer tony blair. starmer than even tony blair. >> responsible >> so he was responsible for that rochdale. he, that bloke in rochdale. was he, that bloke in rochdale. was he, that bloke in rochdale. was he, that bloke rochdale, that that bloke in rochdale, that bloke in rochdale had had been, had made, said said things had made, said some said things that completely which that were completely wrong which uncovered he'd worked >> previously he'd worked closely mps like closely with jewish mps like louise ellman. look and it's not i'm we're louise ellman. look and it's not i'm to we're louise ellman. look and it's not i'm to you've we're louise ellman. look and it's not i'm to you've admitted going to have you've admitted that the reputable that some of the reputable labour muslim candidates are under own under pressure in their own constituencies from the islamist mobs, absolutely. and mobs, and that's absolutely. and lots of labour mps have had have had their offices had mobs outside their offices in firm, including in of stand firm, including muslim mps. but, you muslim labour mps. but, you know, all from know, they're not all from charities. mixture of charities. there's a mixture of backgrounds. have backgrounds. i'm pleased to have people charity people who've got a charity background. business, background. no, from business, small whole small businesses, and whole different backgrounds. and that's need . you need that's what you need. you need a diverse set of mps. >> we will see what happens. but we will see what happens. right.
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okay. an absolute okay. we're off to an absolute flyer. much. flyer. thank you very much. speaking was suspended speaking when she was suspended in diane abbott in august 2023, diane abbott said the errors arose in an initial draft. this is about her? yeah, about suspension. initial draft. this is about her?errors about suspension. initial draft. this is about her?errors arose: suspension. initial draft. this is about her?errors arose: sinitial;ion. the errors arose in an initial draft being sent, but there is no i wish apologise no excuse. i wish to apologise for anguish caused. racism for any anguish caused. racism takes forms and it is takes many forms and it is completely undeniable that jewish suffered its jewish people have suffered its monstrous irish monstrous effects, as have irish people, many people, travellers and many others. right? okay, loads more still here. but before still to come here. but before all of that, spring is in the air and so is your chance to win air and so is your chance to win a garden gadget package, a shopping spree in an incredible £12,345 in tax free cash. here's how you can make those prizes yours. >> we've got cash, treats and a spnng >> we've got cash, treats and a spring shopping spree to be won in a great british giveaway. you could win an amazing £12,345 in tax free cash. plus, there's a further £500 of shopping vouchers to spend at your favourite store. we'll also give you a gadget package to use in your garden this spring. that includes a games console, a pizza oven a portable smart pizza oven and a portable smart speaker so you can listen to gb
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nylander whether they agree shortly. but first, it's been revealed that the government's big definition of extremism this morning won't become law and can't be enforced . so is the can't be enforced. so is the whole thing absolutely pointless? our very own nigel farage reacts to that and gives his take on boris johnson's mooted red wall return to help save rishi stay tuned
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welcome back. it's patrick christys tonight on gb news. coming up . do the government coming up. do the government urgently need to ban puberty blockers everywhere? but first, michael gove unveiled his much awaited new definition of extremism. today, with groups and individuals covered by the definition set to be denied. taxpayer funding and prevented from meeting ministers and officials . but crucially, the officials. but crucially, the changes won't become law and officials will get no new powers to enforce them, meaning that any banned groups will still be able to meet and hold demonstrations. indeed, even rishi sunak struggled to defend the earlier today. the definition earlier today. won't be any statutory powers and the police won't use it. >> what's the point? >> so what's the point? >> so what's the point? >> they said from the steps of downing street a few weeks ago, there has a rise in there has been a rise in extremist activity that is stirring division, undermining extremist activity that is stir|valuesision, undermining extremist activity that is stir|values andi, undermining extremist activity that is stir|values and liberalmining our values and liberal parliamentary democracy. that's not right. and it's important that government has the tools that government has the tools that it needs to protect us against that. that's what the strategy will outline . strategy will outline. >> joined now by gb news
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presenter nigel farage. nigel, is this definition absolutely pointless ? pointless? >> in one way, yes, because the law is the law, and what the police ought to do is enforce the law and part of the anger of many of us is they're simply not doing that. and when they do, they misapply it. doing that. and when they do, they misapply it . however, the they misapply it. however, the intention of this is to get out of public life. people deemed to be extremists , those that make be extremists, those that make that decision and civil servants and anyone having read it. the point two but those that undermine , you know, the undermine, you know, the functioning of our liberal democracy, well , 25 years ago, democracy, well, 25 years ago, when i was first elected to the european parliament on a ticket of leaving the european union, i was literally met officially with the foreign office who thought i was something akin to a terrorist had that had this definition been in place, then i very much doubt the electoral commission would have allowed me to stand as a candidate. and the
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third point of his definition is effectively those that act as a gateway to extremism. so let's say on your show, patrick, you debate illegal immigration and some very strong views. someone says, look , those crossing the says, look, those crossing the channel are illegals. many of them could be criminals. and then somebody you know, out on then somebody you know, out on the on the genuine extreme, then does something beastly. well, you could have been a gateway to that. you could be an extremist. you could be banned from being a broadcaster. so it's all about interpretation. and the worry is this is now open to abuse and the tories have been terrible. on the rise of woke . but once on the rise of woke. but once labour get in, goodness gracious me, we could all be banned. >> yeah, and rishi sunak thought the problem with extremism in this country was so severe that he had to get the lectern out and stand outside downing street and stand outside downing street and tell us all that he was
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going to be drawing up a framework. and the response is to say, right, here's some people and the government's not going to give them any money, but they can still do that thing every saturday or outside every single saturday or outside parliament so parliament that i thought was so bad to come make bad that i had to come and make a statement it. i mean, do a statement about it. i mean, do you think that's just weak? >> think they're not sure what >> i think they're not sure what to do because you know how the definition been seen to be aiming at islamists. they would have been accused of prejudice and cover. so they've done it. so gove said the new definition would be less woolly. no, the new definition can be interpreted how the government and civil service of the day choose to interpret it. i'd like to see the whole thing scrapped. let's go back the law. let's go back to the law. >> as you said there. there is the possibility that this will be open to abuse going forward. it very well and good. it was all very well and good. michael coming out today michael gove coming out today and saying, you know, some people basically people who hold basically conservative values or conservative values or conservative religious values, etc. i really he was etc. i think really he was alluding like pro—lifers, for alluding to like pro—lifers, for
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example, when he saying example, when he was saying that, they're going to that, well, they're not going to be. that's now, that's now be. but that's now, that's now what happens in a few years time. >> hope not. hate have produced their state of hate report today, 2024. they indirectly , today, 2024. they indirectly, through the hamlyn trust, get government funding in their report. you know i was mentioned 56 times and i'm rather proud of that really gb news has mentioned 60 times, and people like jacob rees—mogg, who are pretty moderate , in my view, in pretty moderate, in my view, in fact, i think quite wet. so i like him a lot, but he's a bit wet sometimes and he's a, he's a dangerous extremist according to this. well, you know, given that a tory peer, sorry, a labour peeris a tory peer, sorry, a labour peer is one of the people that runs hope not hate. you know, there is reason to think that what gove has done is to open the door to genuine free opinions being banned from pubuc opinions being banned from public life under if we were ever to get a genuine, hard left labour government . labour government. >> well, look. responding to the
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announcement mend, which is one of these groups, said that the new definition was a blatant attack on civil liberties, while the muslim association of britain described it as a blatant effort to stifle dissenting voices, cage said it would challenge government's would challenge the government's deep authoritarianism. would challenge the government's deep alternative oritarianism. would challenge the government's deep alternative said'ianism. would challenge the government's deep alternative said that m. patriotic alternative said that it was a dangerous step towards a totalitarian state, so that's where they're all at on it. i think they can all, find some kind of judicial review. so no doubt we'll just end up in the courts for however long on it anyway. but, the news, nigel, that boris johnson might make a comeback to campaigning for the tory party in the red wall before the next election. well, it was it was the talk of northern towns earlier this week, apparently. but new polling has poured cold water on hopes a boris election boost. hopes of a boris election boost. 43% of 2019 tory voters saying that johnson would be a liability, not an asset. nigel, as the boris bubble burst . as the boris bubble burst. >> nonsense, patrick. this was released by conservative central
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office on the day that lee anderson moved from the conservatives to reform and the times, front page and other media swallowed it hook, line and sinker. let me tell you why bofis and sinker. let me tell you why boris johnson will not be campaigning in the red wall seats number one. he would do a favour to rishi sunak. boris never does anything for anybody other than himself. secondly, it would involve hard work. he's never been very keen on hard work and frankly, looking at him physically recently, i'm not sure he's even up to it. i mean, he really does look a shambles right at the moment, and thirdly, and most importantly, if he was to walk down the streets of those red wall seats that were won by the conservatives, he would find for many people a deeply hostile reaction. and that's what you get when you betray people's trust. these red wall voters remember i was the gateway drug .
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remember i was the gateway drug. they all came through ukip and the brexit party. they were old labour family voters worried about the change in their communities, worried about what mass immigration was doing to their local towns and bigger cities and under boris, we've hit record levels of legal and illegal immigration. let me promise you something . this will promise you something. this will not happen . not happen. >> but, nigel, i put it to you that at least boris would be out campaigning for the conservatives. you know, you you care about britain. you were mr brexit, were hurtling towards a labour government. are you not going to be out campaigning? you're not going to be out there campaigning to for reform or for whoever tries to stop whoever else tries to stop a labour government. nigel, you know. mean, boris is almost >> well, i mean, boris is almost in retirement and what i'm doing is within rules my is i'm using within the rules my position at gb news with my 4.2 million followers on social media, i'm doing my and particularly on tiktok these days, with, with a younger audience. i am still fighting ,
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audience. i am still fighting, trying very hard to get people to look at things in a very, very different way. i'm still, whether i for stand election, whether i for stand election, whether i for stand election, whether i stay as i am, i am still campaigning and fighting for change. i'm not sure boris is doing any of those things. >> well, now it's time for something completely different, as they say, nigel, because gb news is political editor, christopher hope has got a new podcast. okay, so chopper's podcast. okay, so it's chopper's political podcast. premieres political podcast. it premieres tomorrow mark the tomorrow at 6 am. mark the launch, he caught up with pop star holly valance. who? well, i'll take it away . holly. i'll take it away. holly. >> last time i voted conservatives , next time i'll be conservatives, next time i'll be voting reform . voting reform. >> really? yeah. you are. you're you're you're. well, i think the definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting a different outcome. >> and i'm sure as hell not going to labour. >> what do you make of that, nigel? >> she's a good friend of mine. all right, so you know, hands up. i have an interest in this.
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she's a good friend. she and her husband, nick, a good friends of mine. very good friends of mine, and i took to and i even took them to meet donald a couple of years donald trump a couple of years ago. so you're not going to ago. so. so you're not going to get an unbiased view here, holly? holly cares about current affairs, very passionate affairs, she's very passionate about many issues. and she about many, many issues. and she was . and her husband, nick, big was. and her husband, nick, big supporters of boris very big. i mean, not just big supporters, but friends. personal friends , but friends. personal friends, you know, with boris johnson, with carrie , and she feels with carrie, and she feels completely let down by what the conservatives have done since 2019. and yes, she's holly valance from neighbours and from p0p valance from neighbours and from pop music, from films and a star. but actually , do you know star. but actually, do you know what she represents? a view that is held by many millions of people in this country. you know, if you betray people, if you lie to people, in the end you lie to people, in the end you pay you lie to people, in the end you pay a price . you pay a price. >> i look forward to the nigel farage boris johnson special that inevitably has to happen at some point here on gb news.
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nigel, thank you very much. all right. you can listen to chopper's political podcast every friday apple, spotify every friday on apple, spotify or wherever you get your podcasts or watch the full video on gb news. com don't miss out. it'll be great coming up, the nhs banned trans kids being prescribed, potentially harmful puberty blockers, but there's a big loophole in all of this, and it allows them to be dished out at private clinics. i'm going to be asking bev jackson of the lgb alliance if we need to be doing more to protect our youngsters shortly. i'll also be doing a head to head now, diane abbott said that this impression of her, which robert peston, her, which had robert peston, jess phillips howling with laughter, is racist. >> robert , we really have to >> robert, we really have to unite around jeremy and if jeff cannot unite around jeremy, this is sort of uncanny. >> well, she got point. gb news presented nana akua, an activist , femi nylander, do battle on that next. and a little bit later on as well. we'll be discussing an idea that the home office is willing to allow as
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many as around 2 million palestinians to actually come here and claim asylum. more detail on that later. patrick
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gb news. this is patrick christys tonight. only on gb news. coming up . have we just opened the door up. have we just opened the door for up to 2 million palestinians to claim asylum here in britain.
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but first, it's time for tonight's head to head. and the diane abbott race row is tonight threatening to tear labour apart with a growing clamour from the hard left of the party to reinstate the suspended mp. >> when you see someone like diane , you know where these the diane, you know where these the reports suggest that frank hester had made comments such as that she should be shot. i think it's incredibly frightening , and it's incredibly frightening, and i think that you do expect and you do want a level of institutional support, from from every institutional institution possible, but also your own party, a duty of care. absolutely >> abbott herself came out swinging on today's front pages , swinging on today's front pages, and she accused the tories and also labour of racism , citing also labour of racism, citing the 2022, issue , which showed the 2022, issue, which showed senior party officials using racist tropes against her in further developments. the now
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independent mp also took to twitter to blast journalist robert peston and labour mp jess phillips having a good laugh at someone impersonating me. racism is not the preserve of any one political party. here's the episode that diane took offence to jesse's favourite diane abbott . abbott. >> robert robert. we really have to unite around jeremy and if jess cannot unite around jeremy, this is sort of uncanny. she will be hearing from my friends big frank and harry the hatchet because we really need to have a talk about uniting around jeremy i >> -- >> so tonight i am asking , is it >> so tonight i am asking, is it racist to impersonate diane abbott's voice? let me know your thoughts. gb views at gb news comm at gb news on twitter. make sure you vote in our poll. i'll bnng sure you vote in our poll. i'll bring you the results in a few short but first, going short minutes. but first, going head this, our gb head to head on this, our gb news nana akua and activist news host nana akua and activist femi nylander. both of you, thank very much. nana. thank you very, very much. nana. was racist?
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thank you very, very much. nana. wazno, racist? thank you very, very much. nana. wazno, itracist? thank you very, very much. nana. wazno, it wasn't . it was funny. >> no, it wasn't. it was funny. look, i don't know what's happened to people where literally anything is racist because the woman doing the impersonations is a lady called jan she was one of the jan ravens. she was one of the impersonators, as i understand it, for spitting image and within that whole conversation, she impersonations of she did impersonations of theresa may. she did, emily thornberry, i think she did, but she did. a host of female politicians . and diane abbott politicians. and diane abbott was one of them, this has literally got nothing to do with racism at all. and i'm kind of fed up with people seeing racism in anything and everything and almost taking away the value, the real power, when someone is being genuinely racist, it kind of diminishes the reality of racism by literally finding it in everything . in everything. >> femi was it racist ? >> femi was it racist? >> femi was it racist? >> well, i mean, first of all, the wider context is important and we know why, diane was initially suspended, of course, was because she said and claimed there's a hierarchy of racism in this country and racism against
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black people necessarily black people isn't necessarily treated racism treated the same as racism against jewish people, and other kind who aren't kind of people who aren't necessarily visibly minorities. now, i think this is actually showcased that maybe she wasn't entirely wrong because imagine if, at the height of jeremy corbyn's career as leader of the labour party, he accepted donations from someone who said margaret should shot , margaret hodge should be shot, and at her makes and that looking at her makes you hate all jewish you want to hate all jewish women. he would have been crucified it. you wouldn't crucified for it. you wouldn't have senior mps that he have senior mps saying that he should christian should be given christian forgiveness . you wouldn't have forgiveness. you wouldn't have other mps saying what he other mps saying that what he said even racist. so said wasn't even racist. so i mean, this whole incident has in some ways for me. >> i do take your point. i get what you're saying, i am what you're saying, but i am just to ask you, was that just going to ask you, was that clip racist? an clip racist? is doing an impression abbott racist? >> oh, so doing an impression in and isn't racist, but and of itself, isn't racist, but i don't think what diane was saying was that that was necessarily racist. she was talking pattern of talking about a pattern of behaviour by jess phillips, which includes when jess phillips appointed phillips was first appointed as an that she told, an mp, saying that she told, told diane abbott to f off this ,
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told diane abbott to f off this, that and the rest. and just a pattern of disrespect to which diane abbott is, is, is, is subjected by jess phillips previous to that. so i don't think she was even saying that the impression itself was racist. think was just racist. i think she was just pointing out that, the labour party in many sidelined party has in many ways sidelined her. and i mean, she receives more racist abuse. one study showed, every other labour showed, than every other labour mp combined. >> the inference is >> i think the inference is there, though, isn't it? journalists robert peston and diane abbott's tweet, journalist journalists robert peston and diane ipeston; tweet, journalist journalists robert peston and diane peston and et, journalist journalists robert peston and diane peston and labour nalist journalists robert peston and diane peston and labour nali�*jess robert peston and labour mp jess phillips having good laugh at phillips having a good laugh at someone diane someone impersonating diane abbott. racism is not the preserve any one political preserve of any one political party. i think it's reasonable to infer from that that she is saying that that's racist for me. mean, is really it's an me. i mean, is it really it's an impersonation . you know, diane impersonation. you know, diane abbott has, you know, plenty of no doubt, no doubt, genuinely, you lived you know, seriously lived examples , right of out and out examples, right of out and out racism against her. i don't think anyone denies that. but, you this saying this you know, does this saying this does those lived does not diminish those lived experiences for me. >> mean, she obviously wasn't >> i mean, she obviously wasn't saying the impersonation saying that the impersonation was because the person was racist because the person
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doing wasn't a doing the impersonation wasn't a member party. she member of the labour party. she was that jess was pointing out that jess phillips subjected her phillips had subjected her to racist the past. she's she's racist in the past. she's she's talking about if she'd said impersonators are racist, then she'd about the she'd be talking about the impersonation is behaving by impersonation she is behaving by jess phillips unfortunately, jess phillips and unfortunately, she allowed to talk about she wasn't allowed to talk about that pattern. no, no, the ex—labour mp, who is the speaker of the house, lindsay hoyle, who . right, right. >> all right, all right. no, no. go on. no, no. go on. >> listen, i've listened to you go on a long time and you've got a little journey talking about other may been other things that may have been racist. and abbott, who racist. and diane abbott, who made comment herself, made the racist comment herself, which is why she's suspended. look, whether look, the question is whether that racist, and she's that clip is racist, and she's saying it is and it isn't. it really isn't. and this is the problem where people literally are racism find are weaponising racism to find it, doesn't exist. it, where it doesn't exist. and as i said it diminishes as i said earlier, it diminishes it actually occurs. and it when it actually occurs. and it's us a disservice it's not doing us a disservice not doing me as a service by by by diane abbott claiming that a clip like that is racist because it's just an impersonation . and it's just an impersonation. and if that were racist, then i'm,
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i'm at a loss to, to work out what was racist about it, because there's nothing racist about that clip at all. and it's in other clips as well. other people she impersonates other people she impersonates other people and she's talking about female politicians and she's doing impressions. >> go on for me. yeah, yeah . >> go on for me. yeah, yeah. >> so what i will say is that diane abbott, if like, of course, diane abbott is subject to vile racist abuse constantly, she doesn't need to find fake examples of fake things that aren't i myself aren't racist. i myself am subject often racist abuse subject often to racist abuse onune subject often to racist abuse online after being on your show. i've been called a let me finish please. i called corning gorilla. i've been told i have a big nose. i've been told that i should go back to africa. i should go back to africa. i should be deported. speech . should be deported. free speech. supposedly i born in this supposedly i was born in this country. your viewers country. but your viewers often tell deported. tell me i should be deported. and directly to you and i'm speaking directly to you now. news and not to now. not to gb news and not to patrick. but no matter how many, no matter how many wigs you wear, no matter many, times wear, no matter how many, times you fellow black wear, no matter how many, times you under fellow black wear, no matter how many, times you under the .low black wear, no matter how many, times you under the bus,:)lack wear, no matter how many, times you under the bus,:)layou did women under the bus, as you did on show the other day, you on the show the other day, you will never like myself, be will never just like myself, be
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more than a talking a lot of more than a talking to a lot of these people. all right, so what is happening before you, before you out, before you throw you go out, before you throw away all comments tell away all those comments and tell me, black i've me, my fellow black women, i've never these women. never met any of these women. >> don't know any of these >> i don't know any of these women. i don't represent any community people. represent community of people. i represent nana by the nana akua i'll be judged by the content character, not the content of my character, not the colour of my skin, and definitely not by you. and as for called names, i get for being called names, i get called loads of names. let me finish you've spent time finish because you've spent time talking but talking and i've listened, but i am entitled to my opinion, and my opinion is not based on the colour of my skin. my opinion is based on my thoughts and views. and i listen to what i've been told i make a fairjudgement told and i make a fairjudgement . given the information i have. i look at myself and i don't look at myself and say i must these because must follow these people because they same colour as they are all the same colour as me. will not do that and me. i will not do that and i will not do it, and i will not be told by someone like you that that's what i should be doing. i'm nana akua and that's how i want to be seen. i'm nana akua and that's how i warokay?3 seen. i'm nana akua and that's how i warokay? and n. i'm nana akua and that's how i warokay? and they would happily >> okay? and they would happily see they would see you deported as they would see you deported as they would see deported. nana. that's see me deported. nana. that's the truth. >> they?
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>> who are they? >> who are they? >> who are they? >> who they for them? >> who are they for them? >> who are they for them? >> who are they? who are they who abuse me online every time i appear on this show? well, the people abusing. >> does that tell you about >> what does that tell you about the audience? >> what does that tell you about the listen. ce? >> what does that tell you about the listen. who are they? who are >> listen. who are they? who are they? that would happily see? >> said it's the racists >> i just said it's the racists who abuse every time i appear who abuse me every time i appear on this show twitter call on this show on twitter who call me big say i'm me a big nose, say i'm a gorilla. i say that i go back to africa, look on twitter. >> are literally shouting >> you are literally shouting over other now and we're over each other now and we're gonna, we are gonna we are going to it there. and i would to leave it there. and i would just before, before park it, just before, before i park it, before park would before i park it, i would just like say, absolutely condemn like to say, absolutely condemn any either you of any racism that either of you of received also towards diane received and also towards diane abbott . i hope that goes abbott as well. i hope that goes without saying, but i'm going to say anyway. and also , i am say it anyway. and also, i am going give an opportunity going to give you an opportunity for to quickly apologise for me just to quickly apologise to about something you to nana about something you said, something do with said, about something to do with how might wear or how many wigs she might wear or anything. it's anything. i mean, it's potentially personally potentially quite personally offensive. on this offensive. you can come on this show make points, political show and make points, political points but i think points or whatever, but i think when when you, when you do when you, when you, when you do attacks like would you
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attacks like that, would you like withdraw that comment? attacks like that, would you likei withdraw that comment? attacks like that, would you likei canithdraw that comment? attacks like that, would you likei can withdrawiat comment? attacks like that, would you likei can withdraw the omment? attacks like that, would you likei can withdraw the comment >> i can withdraw the comment about i won't about the wig, but i won't withdraw comment says withdraw the comment which says that constantly they that people will constantly they will you deported as will happily see you deported as they see me deported. no they would see me deported. no matter you dance for matter how much you dance for these racists, they not these racists, they are not going an equal. going to see you as an equal. nana and i that nana pathetic. and i say that from a place of love. >> well, look, both of you, thank much. obviously thank you very much. obviously we have carried this on we could have carried this on forever, unfortunately we're we could have carried this on foreof', unfortunately we're we could have carried this on foreof time. unfortunately we're we could have carried this on foreof time. so ortunately we're we could have carried this on foreof time. so there |tely we're we could have carried this on foreof time. so there we! we're we could have carried this on foreof time. so there we go. 're out of time. so there we go. right okay. who do you agree with, accuses robert with, as she accuses robert peston phillips of peston and jess phillips of racism. it racist to racism. is it racist to impersonate diane abbott's voice? on access? it's the voice? grant on access? it's the british way, but yourself a british way, but yourself on a pedestal. put yourself on a pedestal. put yourself on a pedestal fun at pedestal and people poke fun at you. if you don't like it, don't climb onto the pedestal. mick says would really depend on says it would really depend on what though. adopting what you said though. adopting blackface impression blackface for the impression would janey says would not be okay. janey says lots of people are impersonated. they are usually quite flattered . think how many people impersonated lady thatcher. your verdict now in 91% of you verdict is now in 91% of you agree that it is not racist to impersonate diane abbott, 9% of you it is right. coming you say that it is right. coming up . well, a potentially huge
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up. well, a potentially huge scandal after scandal is brewing after a palestinian citizen of israel. so with an israeli passport was granted asylum in the uk after the home office accepted that he is at risk of the apartheid. i'm quoting now state. so experts now reckon the move is seismic and unprecedented and, crucially, could open the door to somewhere in the region of 2 million other palestinians currently living in israel coming to the uk. but next, the nhs band prescribing potentially harmful puberty blockers to trans kids yesterday. but there are now calls to close a loophole that allows them to still be accessed at private clinics . so i've got beth clinics. so i've got beth jackson of the lgb alliance talking all
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for -- for a bombshell exclusive on the bbc. splurging. millions of licence fee cash. coming up. but first ministers are under growing pressure to introduce an outright ban now on puberty
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blockers for trans kids over fears that private clinics can still dish them out despite the nhs prohibiting them on tuesday. so this loophole means that children wanting to change gender can still access puberty. halting drug lupron privately because health chiefs saying there is no evidence to say they are safe. campaigners warn kids on their parents could turn from the nhs to so—called wild west onune the nhs to so—called wild west online clinics instead. and indeed, trans activist india willoughby encouraged exactly that last night. my advice to families of trans kids is to seek out private sources of puberty blockers, which are totally harmless and approved by countless legit health bodies. been around 50 years if safe for cis kids, they're safe for trans kids. but the statement was quickly slammed by the likes of jk rowling. she fired back willoughby is propagating dangerous lies. women who were put on lupron to delay puberty have long term harm have suffered long term harm in the lupron is used to the us. lupron is used to chemically castrate paedophiles, sex offenders. the drug is
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normally to treat prostate normally used to treat prostate cancen normally used to treat prostate cancer, as a list of cancer, but as a long list of horrible side effects for kids, including permanent loss of including a permanent loss of bone density, to organs bone density, damage to organs and 10s . mps are going and lowered iqs. mps are going to debate a private member's bill from liz truss tomorrow that proposes a full scale ban on this at private clinics. i'm joined now by co—founder of lgb alliance, bev jackson. bev thank you very much . was right that we you very much. was right that we should ban these drugs . should ban these drugs. >> well, thanks for having me on. certainly i'm so pleased that finally the nhs has made this important landmark decision, to , to ban these, decision, to, to ban these, these drugs, calling them unsafe and not effective. and it really has resonated globally. you can see this now being reported around the world. it's a landmark decision for the uk for england. i should say, but it will resonate everywhere . and will resonate everywhere. and it's been a very, very long time coming. i mean, the first time that, sue evans warned, worked at the tavistock and warned
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about there's something like 20 years ago and so many other people have been warning about it, david bell very, very eloquent and of course, stephanie davis rac many, many people have been working towards this, but as you say , the this, but as you say, the problem now becomes the nhs has bannedit problem now becomes the nhs has banned it , problem now becomes the nhs has banned it, but for some reason, andifs banned it, but for some reason, and it's not clear to me why exactly, many groups are just tossing the nhs aside and saying , 0h, tossing the nhs aside and saying , oh, well, they're perfectly safe. now, who do you want to believe the gender identity activist india willoughby , or activist india willoughby, or would you rather believe the nhs? it's very, very peculiar that these groups are already saying, oh well we will go and get these, these drugs online. why would they want to? i mean, i believe i must believe that that that we all want children who are distressed to be treated well, to get the best possible care. so why would what could
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possibly be the motivation of people to want to go and take drugs which are not safe? >> and this is, this is from it's not my words, obviously. it's the words of susie green, who previously headed up mermaids. no you know her mermaids. no doubt you know her well, son told her, aged well, her son told her, aged four that he should have been born a girl, and apparently she's are she's warned that trans kids are more risk suicide . what more at risk of suicide. what would your view on that be when it comes to them being able to at least access this stuff privately? >> well, i don't really know why . susie green, who . the view of susie green, who took son to have, sex change took her son to have, sex change treatment when he was very, very young, and who has no medical training at all and yet was involved in drawing up guidelines which some people quite wrongly call called best practice, it's i don't think really that this is advice to be taken seriously. and as for as far as the suicide is concerned, very i'm very , very relieved to very i'm very, very relieved to see that the government's
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suicide prevention adviser has come out and said, nobody should say that , partly because it say that, partly because it isn't true and partly because it causes harm. it creates the problem. it supposedly tries to prevent. >> look, thank you very, very much. i'm sorry to cut you off there. we are very pressed for time. at the end of the hour. i hope to talk to you about it again very, very soon. thank you for your time. look, coming up next, potentially huge scandal brewing home office brewing after the home office ruled that israel could be viewed as apartheid viewed as an apartheid state. does door does this now open the door for nearly million palestinians to nearly 2 million palestinians to come to fly here come to britain, to fly here themselves and claim asylum? surely not. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news news. >> good evening. welcome to your latest weather update from the met office for gb news. tomorrow will be a case of dodging the downpours. some pretty heavy ones around, but also some bright spells when low pressure is dominating . sitting right
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is dominating. sitting right over the uk. you never are going to have dry weather for long, but this low has been providing some very soggy conditions through central and southern scotland through the day, and it stays wet overnight here, showers bit showers elsewhere becoming a bit dner showers elsewhere becoming a bit drier england wales drier for england and wales through the night, then more through the night, but then more heavy coming from the heavy downpours coming from the southwest early southwest through the early hours. winds that as hours. gusty winds with that as well. the odd rumble well. maybe even the odd rumble of thunder that might wake you up. mild night for most, up. a very mild night for most, but for touch but just low enough for a touch of in northern scotland in of frost in northern scotland in the countryside. so a damp and chilly start for most of scotland. further heavy showers further south. lot of spray and surface water on the roads for the morning commute. those downpours should ease through the day but it stays dull and damp for southeast scotland. northeast england elsewhere, a mixture bright but mixture of bright spells but also some showers. again also some further showers. again pretty mild for england and wales. 1516 where we see some sunshine but a cold feeling day, particularly that persistent rain scotland gets pretty rain over scotland gets pretty cold on friday night. many of us will the weekend with a will start the weekend with a touch of but also many of
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touch of frost, but also many of us start with some us will start with some sunshine. fine for of sunshine. stays fine for much of eastern england, northern england and scotland. further west, will be edging in west, cloud will be edging in with some patchy rain. temperatures in the teens in the south, single figures once more further north. despite some decent of sunshine. goodbye. >> looks like things are heating
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gb news. >> it's 10 pm. i'm patrick christys tonight . nearly christys tonight. nearly 2 million palestinians could be given the right to live in britain and have to be clear eyed about the threat we face. >> precise about where that threat comes from, and rigorous in defending our democracy . in defending our democracy. >> i've got a victim of extremism, a hard line muslim and an eco activist all on together at the same time. it's bound to kick off. also these are the days. >> these are the days . these are
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>> these are the days. these are the days of girlhood . the days of girlhood. >> now, does that make you feel ladies? okay, i've got some arrows from pages tonight with star telegraph columnist allison pearson. i've got conservative peer lord bailey and ex—labour party adviser matthew laza. yes that's right. oh, and what's she up to there at cheltenham ? it's up to there at cheltenham? it's the best of british. that is the best of british. get ready, britain, here we go. oh, nearly 2 million palestinians about to move to britain . next. britain. next. >> good evening from the gb newsroom at 10:00. your top story this hour. the prime minister has ruled out holding a general election on the 2nd of may, amid speculation he could choose to go to the polls early.
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in an interview with itv, rishi sunak was asked if there would be an election on the same day as the local elections , which as the local elections, which takes place on the 2nd of may. he replied there won't be a general election on that day . general election on that day. michael gove has named some of the groups to be investigated under a new definition of extremism , which he says will extremism, which he says will mean the government can express more clearly than ever who poses a risk to britain. some of the groups included are alleged to have islamist views, with others described as neo—nazi. today's new extremism definition will be used to assess whether some groups should be marginalised or blocked from public funding. but michael gove insists it's not about silencing those with private and peaceful beliefs . private and peaceful beliefs. >> we have to be clear eyed about the threat we face, precise about where that threat comes from and rigorous in defending our democracy. that means upholding freedom of expression, religion and belief when they are threatened , facing when they are threatened, facing down harassment and hate, supporting the communities
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facing the greatest challenge from extremist activity, and ensuring this house and this country are safe, free and united. >> meanwhile, angela rayner says she would like to see diane abbott brought back as a labour mp. former shadow home secretary miss abbott is currently an independent mp after she had the whip withdrawn following remarks she made in the observer last year over racism. there have been calls for to her have the whip restored since the race row erupted this week . in other erupted this week. in other news, russia has been accused of disrupting the gps signal on the defence secretary's plane en route to poland. the incident occurred as the raf jet flew close to the edge of kaliningrad. gps navigation and internet access was lost for around 30 minutes during the flight, but the pilots have confirmed the aircraft was never at risk and the prince of wales has praised his mother. diana's legacy. at a ceremony marking a charity's 25th anniversary, the prince said his mother taught him that everyone has the
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potential to give something back, as he paid tribute to her legacy at the diana legacy award. he told the audience that he and his wife, the princess of wales, have sought to focus on diana's legacy through their work. prince william attended the event in person tonight, while the duke of sussex dialled in from california . in virtually from california. and for the latest story, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. com slash alerts. now it's back to . patrick. now it's back to. patrick. >> welcome along britain could be forced to take in almost 2 million palestinian so—called asylum seekers, an absolutely unbelievable asylum decision could set a precedent that any palestinian with an israeli passport can come to britain and claim asylum. the case centres around a man who goes by the name of hassan, not his real name, who came to the uk, took part in pro—palestine marches and then claimed his activism
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would have made him a target in israel and the home office just caved in. they accepted that israel could be considered an apartheid regime. so what's to stop the 1.6 million or so palestinians with israeli passports simply getting on a plane to britain and claiming the same thing? they might even be able to find a good lawyer like this guy, frank mcguinness . like this guy, frank mcguinness. he represented hassan. let's have a little look at this guy , have a little look at this guy, shall we? on october the 7th, the day of the hamas terror attack, he tweeted victory to the intifada . he was reported to the intifada. he was reported to the intifada. he was reported to the bar standards board and the tweets were sent to counter—terror police. he works for garden court chambers , for garden court chambers, apparently, but they have refused to investigate him over the because they only look the tweet because they only look at complaints quality of at complaints about quality of service. did service. but they did investigate bailey investigate alison bailey because said she didn't want because she said she didn't want the chambers to become a stonewall diversity champion . stonewall diversity champion. they eventually paid her £20,000 in compensation after a tribunal decided that she'd been victimised for her women's
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rights beliefs. but they won't investigate the man who appeared to be glorifying the horrific events of october the 7th. mcguinness has also previously been reported to the bsb by the campaign against anti—semitism. after this tweet in december 2020. zionism is a kind of racism . it is essentially racism. it is essentially colonial. it is manifested in an apartheid regime calling itself the jewish state that dominates non—jews and particularly palestinians. that complaint was rejected . we wanted to know rejected. we wanted to know a little bit more about mr mcguinness. so we asked him directly, does he condemn the killings on october the 7th? does he consider hamas to be a terrorist organisation? does he believe that israel has a right to exist? straightforward questions. easy to say yes or no to. it's easy to say you condemn the killings of innocent jewish people , including babies. for people, including babies. for example, he refused to condemn it. he refused to say hamas was terrorists or say that israel has a right to exist. in fact,
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he just said , i only give he just said, i only give comment to professional media outlets and not xenophobic entities created across the division. okay like mcguinness can't believe how useless the home office are though he said this. what's so shocking about this. what's so shocking about this case is that israel is normally considered a staunch ally of the uk government, and that the uk considers it the only democracy in the middle east and in no way an apartheid regime. but what this reflects is a staggering contradiction in the heart of british foreign policy. this policy. yeah absolutely. this is shocking, well. shocking, unprecedented as well. from the home office. it's unbelievable really. the president has now been set. so somewhere in the region of 1.6, maybe more million palestinians with israeli passports can just come to britain . now, can they come to britain. now, can they wander around london at a pro—palestine march on a saturday, get mcguinness on the blower and bob's your uncle . blower and bob's your uncle. you're into britain. it's remarkable. but let's get the thoughts of my panel now. daily telegraph columnist allison pearson. we've also got conservative peer lord shaun
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bailey former labour party bailey and former labour party adviser matthew laza allison. i'll start with you on this. so as far as i can gather, the precedent has been set and that it depends. obviously, the numbers on how many palestinians have got an israeli passport is relatively vague. somewhere between 1.6 million, 1.8 million could just fly into heathrow airport or manchester land here, get off, go to a rally on a saturday, get mcguinness on the phone and all of a sudden you can stay in britain. >> it is even by the home office standards, one of their major decisions isn't it? but look, are again, patrick? are we looking again, patrick? at activists at home office activists arriving at this decision, as mr mcguinness himself has said, the arab and muslim population is extremely well integrated in israel. it's about 21% of the population in ten members of the israeli parliament. the knesset are muslim and of palestine origin, so there's absolutely no validity at all in this charge of apartheid or anything like that. and as you say, what's
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going to happen that they can come over here, go on a pro—palestine march and then apply for asylum? there's something about it, doesn't it doesn't smell quite right to me. i don't, i don't i don't understand the basis. of course, you know, clearly you can't send someone back to iran if they're going to be hanged. what's going to happen hassan he gets to happen to hassan if he gets sent to israel? nothing's sent back to israel? nothing's going happen to him. so the going to happen to him. so the bafis going to happen to him. so the basis it is, is, utterly basis for it is, is, utterly wrong and should be challenged. i mean , it should somebody i mean, it should somebody should challenge it. >> sure. what's on earth is the home office playing out here? >> i think for me, the real problem is the home office problem here is the home office are in their utter disgrace, are in their an utter disgrace, the fact that we have israel as one allies. but then they one of our allies. but then they can make this decision that shouldn't someone's opinion. shouldn't be someone's opinion. either the government change it or act on on what is the or they act on on what is the official position. but this just leads british simply leads to british people simply not trusting the system. and i really think the minister really do think the minister involved should look and challenge the challenge . look, challenge the challenge. look, he might challenge it and be happy with it, but it needs to
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be challenged it's about be challenged and it's not about this actually this individual, it's actually about it's about about this country. it's about people able to trust the people being able to trust the system. should a system. somebody should have a deeper this because of deeper look into this because of course, if it is activism. yeah. in the civil service, of which there has been too much, somebody take charge. somebody needs to take charge. >> this this lawyer. >> this guy, this this lawyer. right. absolutely couldn't believe his luck. he's not even trying so trying to hide it. okay. so anyone tweets on october the anyone who tweets on october the 7th, the of this hamas 7th, the day of this hamas terror victory to the terror attack, victory to the intifada is a special kind of person . okay? he then goes on to person. okay? he then goes on to represent individual and represent this individual and the home office caves in and wallop. of a sudden, wallop. all of a sudden, israel's got the potential to be an state. and it an apartheid state. and it appears this is now rolling appears that this is now rolling the wicket any palestinian the wicket for any palestinian with an israeli passport to come and live in britain. matthew. >> i mean, seems an >> yeah, i mean, it seems an extraordinary decision. i mean, look, asylum system is there look, the asylum system is there for a purpose it's to allow for a purpose and it's to allow people need to seek asylum people who need to seek asylum and who protection from and who need protection from persecution in, from around the world. and what i worry about is that system is brought into disrepute absurd disrepute when seemingly absurd decisions taken ,
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decisions like this are taken, which therefore get the public's back up and support for the very necessary asylum system collapses. so the system is a complete mess. and look, it's extraordinary. there the tales that his chambers of this the lawyers chambers, the barristers chambers, it was the same chambers, it was the same chambers that had the alison bailey case. i mean, it seems to me that the there's a case to be answered those tweets answered about those tweets because you wouldn't feel comfortable if you were, a jewish his. so, jewish client of his. so, you know, therefore , they should be know, therefore, they should be investigated. must investigated. but we must protect system . it is protect the asylum system. it is necessary. but we can't have nonsense like this. >> the idea that guy is >> the idea that this guy is going to back israel and going to go back to israel and is kind of beaten is going to be kind of beaten up, israel's got quite a lot on at the moment, hasn't it? yeah, it's busy. it's quite tied it's quite busy. it's quite tied up and in that lot. >> a proper legal system, >> and as a proper legal system, like said, and it's the only like he said, and it's the only democracy in the middle east. and what's interesting as well, there's israeli people there's a lot of israeli people who pro—palestine, you know, there's a lot of israeli people who see pro—palestine, you know, there's a lot of israeli people who see themselves1e, you know, there's a lot of israeli people who see themselves as you know, there's a lot of israeli people who see themselves as you kn and who see themselves as jewish and are pro—palestine. absolutely. >> at the moment, the >> i mean, at the moment, the netanyahu government is incredibly unpopular with israelis. it's not just israelis. i mean, it's not just
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that there are arab members of the there are the knesset. there are two different of arab parties different sets of arab parties with things. with two different things. there's competition there's decent competition in democracy. now see, it appears, >> but we now see, it appears, alison, the home office contravening alison, the home office cont there's; alison, the home office cont there's the government does yes, there's the government does not shape or form not in any way, shape or form consider israel to be an apartheid regime. people who are making the home making decisions at the home office claims office on asylum claims potentially that there's potentially do know that there's any the house potentially do know that there's ancommons. the house potentially do know that there's an(yes.nons. the house >> yes. >> yes. >> well, think as sean said, >> well, i think as sean said, we've seen evidence of the we've seen the evidence of the home office is a law unto itself. it just goes rogue. >> we've got to split it up. >> we've got to split it up. >> it's really, really troubling that are making that these people are making these terrible decisions. and can say, on october the can i just say, on october the 7th, many of the arabs and muslims have made israel muslims who have made israel their home, they were prominent in defending they were in defending people. they were among they many, many among the dead. they many, many peace activists. yeah. many tales of heroism from muslims and palestine. palestinians resident in israel who stood up for their home. so the idea that palestinians going back there would be persecuted by israel is just completely wrong. it's a wicked thing to claim . wicked thing to claim. >> i just want to focus one more
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time on the home office. there this decisions like this, support the case that the home office should be broken up. it's too big. it's unruly . it too big. it's unruly. it certainly isn't just acting out of the desires of the government of the desires of the government of the desires of the government of the day, i think i think somebody needs to do, i think, would the structure of the home office in order so it can be we need the department for immigration. >> you know, i'm partly australian you know, the australian and you know, the aussies are pretty firm on their border because have aussies are pretty firm on their b
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monocultural saying monocultural state by saying that the that you're taking away the diversity so it seems diversity of israel. so it seems to it's actually an anti to me it's actually an anti liberal thing. >> look at when you >> but when you look at when you look at immigration this look at immigration in this country you separate out country and you separate out immigration, economic and, asylum many people in asylum seekers, many people in politics make a proud boast of the take thousands the fact that we take thousands of best people from other of the best people from other places in the world. we ought to look that statement because look at that statement because we crippling places in we are crippling many places in the by taking their best. the world by taking their best. so staff our so the boast that we staff our nhs other parts of our nhs and other parts of our economy these people economy with these people actually to be looked at actually needs to be looked at somebody expense. actually needs to be looked at sonwell,y expense. actually needs to be looked at sonwell, also expense. actually needs to be looked at sonwell, also remember,. actually needs to be looked at sonwell, also remember, patrick, actually needs to be looked at sonwelonly;o remember, patrick, actually needs to be looked at sonwelonly a remember, patrick, actually needs to be looked at sonwelonly a few ember, patrick, actually needs to be looked at sonwelonly a few ember, agorick, actually needs to be looked at sonwelonly a few ember, ago it k, there's only a few weeks ago it was home office that was was the home office that was holding world hijab day. yeah. you whilst abdul you know, and, whilst abdul ezedi was on the run, was was on the run. exactly. and you think, well, we can see where some of their lie. so again, their sympathies lie. so again, there's there's there's a there's a, there's a, there's a very troubling that very troubling sense that there's the home office is doing two, two quite interesting things the moment. things at the moment. >> it appears again, i'll say >> so it appears again, i'll say it and i'll get a it appears and i'll get a comment from the home office in a minute, but they may well a minute, but that they may well have precedent that have set a precedent now that anyone palestinian with an
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anyone who's palestinian with an israeli passport, of which there are million israeli passport, of which there are could million israeli passport, of which there are could now million israeli passport, of which there are could now comen israeli passport, of which there are could now come to people, could now come to britain and claim asylum, they appear to have set that precedent. they appear to have said israel apartheid said that israel is an apartheid state. appear to keep state. they also appear to keep offering asylum from offering people asylum from rwanda. and i just wonder if now we clearly have the home we just clearly have the home office or staff in the home office or staff in the home office acting , working against office acting, working against any of the government's priorities. >> this is slightly tangential . >> this is slightly tangential. but today, when michael gove made announcement about made the announcement about what's, you know, what's extremism, etc. and lots of people this is nonsense, we people said this is nonsense, we don't need actually, one of don't need it. actually, one of the in this country that the places in this country that does h the places in this country that does it a civil service. does need it is a civil service. and part of that announcement was we are saying that was to say, we are saying that certain organisations will not be able to apply for government money turn up in the money and b turn up in the office of ministers. i actually think it's important think it's quite important because the rules that because lots of the rules that we've had and lots of the, directives we've from directives we've had from government actually government have actually been written outside written by outside organisations. and i think that needs be challenged. needs to be challenged. >> home has >> and the home office has a track record of turfing out. home secretaries like priti
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patel, suella braverman and so on. amber rudd, amber rudd, you know, anyone, anyone trying to get tough with them just gets turfed out. >> yeah, well, indeed . right. >> yeah, well, indeed. right. okay. look, a couple of things to read out. now, just a very quick my quick clarification, during my monologue, on screen monologue, a graphic on screen apparently incorrectly attributed a quote to campaign against anti—semitism, semitism. this was, in fact by frank mcguinness, but also a home office spokesperson who said all asylum claims are carefully considered on their individual merits in accordance with the immigration rules and are not uniquely based on the broad perceptions of safety of their country origin. in the past country of origin. in the past yean country of origin. in the past year, the granted asylum year, the uk has granted asylum to individuals from various countries, nationals countries, including nationals from some of our closest european neighbours other european neighbours and other safe the world. safe countries around the world. where more information is provided becomes available. provided all becomes available. the of a decision can the outcome of a decision can change. is long standing change. it is long standing government policy that we do not routinely comment on individual cases. routinely comment on individual cases . many people, though cases. many people, though obviously be incredibly obviously will be incredibly concerned potential for concerned at the potential for this set a precedent for this to set a precedent for around 1.6 or 1.8 million people to come from israel who are
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palestinian. coming up, i have a big exclusive on how the bbc are spending millions of our licence fee cash . now. we'll bring you fee cash. now. we'll bring you all tomorrow's newspaper all of tomorrow's newspaper front but next is the front pages. but next is the government's new definition of extremism to leave swathes extremism going to leave swathes of conservatives in labour's crosshairs? i've got a fantastic gallery of people lined up for you here. okay. naveed asghar, deputy chair of the conservative muslim forum , and roshan muslim forum, and roshan mohammed saleh, editor of the five pillars website, they're going to debate that next is patrick tonight on
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gb news. welcome back. it's patrick christys tonight on gb news. tomorrow's newspaper front pages are coming very soon. but first unveiling his new definition of extremism . earlier today, extremism. earlier today, michael gove named several groups that could fall foul of these changes. >> organisations such as the muslim association of britain, which is the british affiliate of the muslim brotherhood, and other groups such as cage and mend , give rise to concern for mend, give rise to concern for their islamist orientation and views . we will be holding these views. we will be holding these and other organisations to account to assess if they meet our definition of extremism and will take action as appropriate, but with the official list of banned groups not set to be published for a few weeks, that was the short list, if you will. >> many more groups could also be named and shamed. one such
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group, though, is the muslim news five pillars. i am news outlet five pillars. i am joined now by the editor of five pillars, arosha, mohammed salih and the deputy chair of the conservative muslim forum , conservative muslim forum, naveed asghar. and just stop oil spokesperson ben roshan as well. so we've got we've got the proper gallery , we've got the proper gallery, we've got the full house. brilliant stuff. fantastic, so look, i'm just going to start. roshan, you expect it to be named today by michael gove, what happened ? michael gove, what happened? >> yeah. i mean, all the media reports indicated that we would be named. i saw a draft speech of michael gove's parliament address. word for word. he said the same thing apart from discarding five pillars. so it was obviously a last minute decision. i think personally, they pulled out because in gove's speech, he mentioned that freedom of speech would be safeguarded . so if he targeted safeguarded. so if he targeted a media organisation for the
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effectively labelling a media organisation as extremist for the first time in british history, i think that would have been a contradiction. therefore, he dropped us, no, it's interesting actually. and by the way, can i just say i'll come back to you? i think i think we might actually be in a relatively rare point of agreement here, which is i also think what gove is doing think what michael gove is doing is cobblers. so, you is absolute cobblers. so, you know, go. but, i will, know, there we go. but, i will, i'll just bring in, now the deputy chair of the conservative forum. now, naveed, i understand from one my researchers that from one of my researchers that you have spoken out against perceived, islamism or extremist tendencies before and then received quite a bit of pushback. have you from from from from certain people. could you just tell us a bit about that, please ? that, please? >> here's the thing. you're damned if you do and you're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't. and obviously, being of muslim origin, myself, i always try to keep a fair playing field on this and trying to take in what the government is saying and
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trying to put that information back out into the community. and there always elements there will always be elements there will always be elements there don't what's there that don't like what's being so you're always being said, and so you're always going to get pushback, it's going to get pushback, but it's not stop me coming out. not going to stop me coming out. and know, saying i and you know, saying what i see because we have access to government and through the conservative muslim forum and we're we're dealing with, cchq and we're dealing with the party. we're getting party. so we're getting information firsthand opposed information firsthand as opposed to in the media. >> right. okay, i am just going to bring in ben now from just stop oil. ben, i suppose there is a case, right? that you guys could be or should be on this list. i mean, you know, bringing traffic to a whole . i mean, traffic to a whole. i mean, there have been acts of criminal damage, haven't there? threats to bring airports to a standstill, etc. i mean, plenty of people would ben, that of people would argue, ben, that that extremist stuff. that is pretty extremist stuff. >> thanks for having >> i padraic, thanks for having me on, michael gove can argue what likes, to be honest, what he likes, to be honest, just isn't an extremist just stop oil isn't an extremist organisation . we live in extreme organisation. we live in extreme times, that's for sure. and just stop oil is a group of ordinary people who are saying, we're not
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going to take this lying down. if the government wants to push ahead with extremist policies, we're going to stand up and resist them. >> w- resist them. >> roach, i want e roach, i want to >> right. okay. roach, i want to ask now if you guys are ask you now if you guys are actually included in this, in this michael gove's long list of extremist organisations , which extremist organisations, which may well happen. right? and just stop oil aren't how would you feel about that ? feel about that? >> i'm not bothered. i mean, i think michael gove is an extremist himself and he's a warmonger. he has he's got a particular target. he's got this mad crusade that he's been launching for many years against islamists. he basically took down several birmingham schools, which are high performing because he said they allegedly were run by islamists. so he's got this mad obsession. i don't care if the government doesn't. i don't want government funding. they can keep their dirty money for all. i want to preserve my independence, you know, so i don't about government don't care about government funding. care about, funding. i don't care about, being government being hosted by government institutions. bother me institutions. doesn't bother me whatsoever. it might bother some of other groups on list ,
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of the other groups on the list, like matt and others who have penetration into politics. which is their right as british citizens. they're a peaceful organisation, but personally, it doesn't bother me as far as i'm concerned. if we're put on that list, it will just increase , our list, it will just increase, our fans, our followers, our donations. it's the holy month of ramadan. we solicit donations from community. those will from our community. those will completely explode if michael gove this , could i could i gove does this, could i could i just ask? >> i'll just stick with you on. this is that not quite concerning, though, that if the government decides that you are classed as extremists and then a load of people in britain decide that they want to donate to you off the back of that, does that not imply that we do have a problem with extremism there? >> no, it doesn't at all. it just means that people disagree with michael gove and the government support which government and support us, which millions of people do. >> naveed, i'll get you to >> okay, naveed, i'll get you to come back to that . come back to that. >> live at five fellows is a website and they do their job. i'm just going to go back to
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what michael gove said today. he was very clear and iterated that he's not attacking a free freedoms speech. he's not freedoms of speech. he's not attacking, he's not attacking, protests. he's not attacking, protests. he's not attacking the muslim community. and definition was last and the definition was last updated in 2011. it was time for the to be updated . mark rowley, the to be updated. mark rowley, also the commissioner, had said it was it's moving in the same direction that he wanted it to move, you know, they've just pinpointed what exactly pinpointed what they exactly want here, so freedom want to happen here, so freedom of is not being curtailed of speech is not being curtailed if organisations i'm not saying anything about any of the organisations named, i'm not privy information. if privy to that information. if organisations on the list, organisations are on the list, there be reason. the there will be good reason. the government will have good reason. have done reason. they will have done their research and, it's not set in law. there is no criminality. we can, given all it said, is that government will not be, engaging with them or funding them. >> this is one of the reasons why is, frankly, a why i think this is, frankly, a load of rubbish from michael gove exactly i think gove for exactly what i think i'm to ask ben now, which i'm about to ask ben now, which is ben, even if just stop oil were this of government were on this list of government extremists, how would that
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affect just stop oil ? affect just stop oil? >> at all. i mean, >> not not at all. i mean, michael gove can say what he wants, but i'd just like to actually focus on what he did say. he said an extremist is someone who negates or destroys the fundamental or the fundamental rights or freedoms others. michael gove freedoms of others. michael gove needs to have look in the needs to have a look in the mirror, if we don't have mirror, right? if we don't have the right to adequate housing because all our homes are underwater, don't have the underwater, we don't have the right to food because we've got no got crop failure no crops, we've got crop failure and food the shelves. and no, no food on the shelves. where does that us, michael where does that lead us, michael gove government gove and this tory government are extremists. and if are the clear extremists. and if you on the street and ask you go on the street and ask ordinary in britain, ordinary people in britain, that's you're going to hear that's what you're going to hear as there's faith in as well. there's no faith in this and as far as this government. and as far as i'm concerned, oil, i'm concerned, just stop oil, won't be, cowed. >> well, you also can't be. there's no there's no due powers of arrest here. this is just the government saying we're not going give you any money, going to give you any money, which they weren't giving you anyway, all anyway, essentially. look, all of you very, very of you, thank you very, very much. would enjoy to much. i would really enjoy to have all of you back on at some point. again, i know it was quite short and for each
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quite short and sweet for each of but i do appreciate it. of you, but i do appreciate it. i to show the range of i wanted to show the range of different issues play different issues there at play here. that was the here. so thank you, that was the editor pillars, roshan editor of five pillars, roshan mohammed, salih, the deputy chair the conservative chair of the conservative muslim forum, and just chair of the conservative muslim foruroil and just chair of the conservative muslim foruroil spokesperson and just chair of the conservative muslim foruroil spokesperson ben.just stop oil spokesperson ben. right. okay. so what do you make of gb views at of all of that and gb views at gb but coming up, gb news. com but coming up, prince and prince william prince harry and prince william both an event that paid both spoke at an event that paid tribute late mother tribute to their late mother tonight, despite their raging feud. although duke of feud. although the duke of sussex appeared on webcam sussex only appeared on webcam after had left . has after his brother had left. has the war of the windsors gone on long enough? and i will show you what had to say. was what wills had to say. it was pointed, to the least. all pointed, to say the least. all right, so we've got clip of right, so we've got a clip of that. next i exclusively that. but next i exclusively reveal the bbc has splurged reveal what the bbc has splurged millions cash on just millions of public cash on just days announcing a licence days after announcing a licence fee hike, and get a first fee hike, and you'll get a first look at tomorrow's newspaper front
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for campaigner dame esther rantzen for gate. that's the old assisted dying stuff . the assisted dying stuff. the independent putin targeted uk minister in cyber attack on raf jet. so that is the story that was on our bulletins earlier on the guardian. tories urged to give back another £5 million from hester. look guys, it's not going to happen. it's not going to happen. but anyway, that's the who said that diane the guy who said that diane abbott should shot at. abbott should be shot at. children avoid children cannot avoid violent content go . content online. and there we go. let's go to the ai number 10. anxiety grows as angry tories question sunaks authority . and question sunaks authority. and now, just on that, i had a message from a conservative mp whilst i was on air. and it does tie in with what's on the front of the eye to say that, as they understand it, seven letters of no confidence went in about rishi sunak. today i am joined by my press pack of course i've got the wonderful alison pearson, lord bailey and matthew
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laza. but yeah, for a breaking development about the pressure that appears to be growing on rishi sunak , a senior tory mp rishi sunak, a senior tory mp has told gb news that seven more no confidence letters have been sent in the last 24 hours. that's according to a source . that's according to a source. alison, what do you think of that? >> well, we've debated whether it's. is it too is it too late to push him? i mean, i've always said they should because, because it's going to be an absolute rout, patrick. i mean, i'm thinking it's going to be the election is going to be in double. they're going to be down to double figures. so they should push him. but i don't know. i think they're waking up now. i think realise now now. i think they realise now they've in their bubble. they've been in their bubble. they're absolutely from they're absolutely detached from what the what people the mood in the country. but the mood in the country. but the mood in the country murderous. so country is murderous. so i wonder, you, wonder, i keep telling you, i know it is. >> are you sure you're not disagreeing, sean, are you? you're feeling. you're just feeling. >> just keep saying can't >> i just keep saying it can't be that bad. >> it is bad. i'm >> it is that bad. i'm expressing my hope and my dreams that it's not that bad. but, look, i'll. say this. tory
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look, i'll. i'll say this. tory mps to a hold of mps need to get a hold of themselves. need show themselves. they need to show some out of some loyalty, if only out of self—preservation. to self—preservation. loyalty to push, , to push. the pm push, to push, to push. the pm now would lose . any idea? no it now would lose. any idea? no it wouldn't. the parliamentary conservative party have any value at all. it would be a ridiculous thing to do. give the man some room to be the prime minister and get some things right that hunt budget. >> you look at it and you think if he really seriously had to be talked out of having a may 2nd general election, you think was that the i mean , i had priti that the i mean, i had priti patel on sofa the day after patel on that sofa the day after the budget and she was like, well, we're obviously not going to the polls with yeah >> 9 she was >> and she was and she was right. listen, any prime minister who isn't talking about housing number one health. yeah. health number two, you could swap them around depending on your on where you are in your life. yeah. you could argue he's not focusing on what the rest of the country is focusing on. >> and 14 years we've had of this. >> but the point is he has if he
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goes tomorrow he doesn't have a chance to change that. and we'd all reap the whirlwind. let give the room to it. the man some room to get it. >> you aren't just joining us and go matthew on this and i'll go to matthew on this now. if you are just joining now. but if you are just joining us, this is the news coming to us, this is the news coming to us here, breaking that a senior tory has told gb news tory source has told gb news that no that seven letters of no confidence in about rishi confidence went in about rishi sunakin confidence went in about rishi sunak in the last hours. sunak in the last 24 hours. matthew, i mean, presumably labourjust him to stay, labour just want him to stay, don't labour wants is >> well, what labour wants is what wants, which what the country wants, which is an election. he's an election. i mean, he's squatting in downing street. what's going to take to what's it going to take to get him out of number 10? look, let's the country out of his let's put the country out of his misery tory party misery and put the tory party out its misery let people out of its misery and let people have choice they so have the choice they so desperately need. >> ages. starmer led labour. >> ages. a starmer led labour. well, it's what? >> it's what? yes, sure. and it's what what people. it's what it's what people. well, at the well, you may shudder at the thought, the british thought, but the british people aren't. telling opinion aren't. they're telling opinion pollsters in every single opinion what opinion poll that that's what they anyway, let's they want. and anyway, let's have by—election has shown have every by—election has shown us, matthew, the vote us, matthew, the labour vote doesn't go up. >> stays home. we >> the tory vote stays home. we are have the worst of are going to have the worst of all worlds. going to have
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all worlds. we're going to have the tories completely trashed. they we're going they deserve it. but we're going to government that to have a labour government that most don't there is most people don't want. there is no enthusiasm for the political class in this, i think. >> look, i think you're right. there's huge cynicism and there's huge anti—political class. people class. but i think people do want they want a change and they want a labour government. want a change and they want a laball government. want a change and they want a laball right.�*|ment. want a change and they want a laball right. okay.. want a change and they want a laball right. okay. now a gb >> all right. okay. now to a gb news exclusive. we have learned that bbc planning to that the bbc is planning to spend astonishing £47 million spend an astonishing £47 million of public money on new high tech telephone lines, which will include i. despite the latest licence fee hike kicking in in just a few days with the annual cost of a tv licence due to rise to £169.50 from the 1st of april. oh no, the £47 million will fund a new switchboard complaints line and queries around tickets to attend shows. critics have questioned the huge sum and asked why the services can't be provided as part of the bbc's annual budget. i mean, alison, this is ridiculous. £47 million on this. >> i don't even understand what's the nature of this phone service. yeah, it's absolutely
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astonishing, isn't it? i mean, it would you know, it would keep keep most television programmes going it? going for decades, wouldn't it? the the bbc is the trouble with the bbc is they act like they a high earning act like they are a high earning commercial organisation . they commercial organisation. they are the civil service. they are supposed to be saving public money, not splashing out, particularly when they're sending . there's sending people to jail. there's more women in jail. most women who are in jail are there for non licence fee payments. >> that is astonishing. >> oh, that is astonishing. astonishing in fact. >> so that. sorry. say that again. >> i think i've got this right. a few, a large number of women who are in women's jails are there no non—payment of the bbc. you learn something, you see. >> wow. you know, it's historic for decades. >> yeah i think yeah, absolutely. >> that is that is astonishing. >> that is that is astonishing. >> i'm not sure whether it's gone up or gone down, but but for decades it's been a major cause women going jail . cause of women going to jail. you know, i, i think it might actually gone a bit, but it actually gone down a bit, but it has btec sat here and i thought, look, bbc is a huge look, the bbc is a huge organisation in very technical, done things
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done loads of amazing things over years. over the years. >> they have be allowed to >> they have to be allowed to buy some expensive equipment as long as they can long as, as long as they can justify it. so that's the good part to contradict that. if we are particularly women are sending particularly women to jail to sponsor an organisation that's meant to be a public organisation for the benefit of the british public, something needs to be done and i often get in trouble by the bbc. they round all kinds of attacks because i've said that the tv licence is beginning to look untenable because of the raids, and now we add this astonishing fact think they need to fact to it. i think they need to go the drawing board and go back to the drawing board and make sure they can demonstrate great value money. great value for money. >> to i'm going to >> i'm going to i'm going to read out, the bbc have told read out, what the bbc have told us, then i'll bring it to us, and then i'll bring it to you, matthew. so when we contacted they us contacted the bbc, they told us this a routine pre this is a routine pre procurement a central staff procurement for a central staff led . sorry, shouldn't say led task. sorry, i shouldn't say that. staff led that. essential staff led services for audiences that are available 24 so what do you think all year round, including inquiries and feedback, charity appeals and donations, bbc action lines and the bbc
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switchboard, the new service provider, will be required to enhance and improve our ability to all contacts in to handle all contacts in a consistent , timely way. we consistent, timely way. we always seek the best value contract possible . matthew £46 contract possible. matthew £46 million for a switchboard. >> look . >> look. >> look. >> well, look, we don't know how long that contract is over. i mean, the switchboard was outsourced when i was at the bbc, so i don't think it's all going to be spent at once. and look, if you want, you want look, if you want, if you want your complaints and it your viewer complaints and it sounds like you might want sounds to me like you might want to put a lot of complaints in about the if you you, about the bbc, if you if you, patrick, you have patrick, if you want to have people, you know, having technical want technical problems who want a response, if you want people responding and getting information know, responding and getting info serious know, responding and getting info serious issues know, responding and getting info serious issues that know, the serious issues that are tackled programmes, you tackled in programmes, then you need system. it sounds need a working system. it sounds like an awful lot when the licence going up, but if licence fee is going up, but if it's spent over it's spent sensibly over a penod it's spent sensibly over a period then makes sense. period then it makes sense. >> £4,047 million is ridiculous. >> £4,047 million is ridiculous. >> as long as have to, as >> as long as they have to, as long as they can justify it, they should allowed to do they should be allowed to do to buy big things a big buy big things or a big organisation. but where's justification? >> right. getting it in >> all right. just getting it in my now. so it turns
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my ear now. so it turns apparently a higher proportion my ear now. so it turns apwomen' a higher proportion my ear now. so it turns apwomen' a higher pprosecuted. of women have been prosecuted. the fee not the bbc licence fee not necessarily to prison but necessarily sent to prison but hey, i'm sure we can have more of look into that. anyway, of a look into that. anyway, it's the trans influencer who sent share price sent bud light share price crashing last crashing through the floor last yean crashing through the floor last year, dylan mulvaney is now year, but dylan mulvaney is now hoping for redemption by dipping their , his toes, into the their toes, his toes, into the music business. let's go girls, these are the days . these are the days. >> these are the days, these are the days of girlhood. these are the days of girlhood. these are the days of girlhood. these are the days . these are the days. the days. these are the days. these are the days of girlhood. every day is . a shine. they're every day is. a shine. they're on my dick. and then off your eyes. got my dolls by my side . eyes. got my dolls by my side. >> alison, your views unprintable. i i've been working on a on a trans, propaganda ideological spreading in schools. so i'm not very amused by mr mulvaney, i'm afraid,
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because that may look fun and candyfloss and so on. but behind thatis candyfloss and so on. but behind that is spreading the message to vulnerable young people that this is a, that this is a lifestyle option rather than something that's actually quite sinister. do you not think that's actually quite i mean, i'm not a woman, right? >> so i don't want to get offended on women's behalf. yeah. don't get offended on women's behalf. and i don't want to. yeah. but like that to me seems a bit rum that i spoke to a 14 year old girl today and asked her what does she feel about it? >> and she said, don't care, >> and she said, i don't care, you he wants. but you can do what he wants. but she kept saying he. i said, she kept saying he. and i said, but said, he's a girl. yeah. but he said, he's a girl. yeah. she and she said, no, he hasn't never grown up as a girl. he hasn't clue. then she hasn't got a clue. and then she then on to say, well, when then went on to say, well, when did become a girl? and then i did he become a girl? and then i said in his adult years. and she said, well, he's never been a girl like me. i grew up. and it was a strange was it was a strange conversation for young conversation to for that young person understand. he person to understand. well, he says he's girl, but he's not a says he's a girl, but he's not a girl as she sees herself because she wasn't girl from day
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she wasn't a girl from from day dot. but that's the problem. it's confusion it's the confusion that it spreads people are spreads to people who are vulnerable. this particular. yeah, certain who she was. >> but my biggest objection is it's terrible song, right, all it's a terrible song, right, all right, all fair enough. right, all right, fair enough. well it's that time for well it's that time again for our great british our spring. great british giveaway and your chance to win gadgets. a shopping spree and 12,345 cash. you've got 12,345 spring cash. you've got to be in it to win it. and here's how you could be the next big winner once be a winner. >> you've won £18,000. >> you've won £18,000. >> oh, slippy nick, i don't know what to say. >> enter our massive spring giveaway with three big seasonal pnzes giveaway with three big seasonal prizes to be won. there's £12,345 in tax free cash to give your finances a spring boost. we'll also send you on a shopping spree with £500 worth of vouchers to spend in the store of your choice. you'll also get a garden gadget package for another chance to win the vouchers. the treats and £12,345 in free cash . text gb win to in tax free cash. text gb win to 84 9000. two texts cost £2 plus one standard network rate
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welcome back. it's time for more of tomorrow's newspaper front pages. of tomorrow's newspaper front pages . let's of tomorrow's newspaper front pages. let's go to of tomorrow's newspaper front pages . let's go to the of tomorrow's newspaper front pages. let's go to the daily telegraph. fears for patients in nhs net zero drive. this is a remarkable story. i'll focus on that very shortly. i just want to bring you the daily mail. diana would knock their heads together as the princes appear hours apart at the same awards, thatis hours apart at the same awards, that is the mail and we move on now to the times. gove names muslim and far right groups that could face ban. they're also saying that there's 20,000 people a month off work with poor mental health and a big picture of concord, the mirror cops sued over shot sergeant mistakes led to matt ratana's killer entering the police station with a gun. so those are the remainder of your front pages, i'm just going to start by focusing in on. because this this really shocked me when i found out about this just a few minutes ago. fears for patients as nhs rolls out net zero
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electric ambulances. but it's not just that, though, is it? alison, can you fill us in, please? on what's on the front of the telegraph? >> yes, a guy quite senior in a medical got in touch medical provision got in touch with he i've seen with me and he said, i've seen some things in my life, he some mad things in my life, he said, but they're now in the nhs to zero target. to hit their net zero target. they're rejecting medicines and equipment that aren't environmentally friendly enough, even for even though they're better for the . the patients. >> right. >> right. >> so just so we're clear, the nhs to be rejecting nhs appears to be rejecting actual medical help because it might not contribute towards net zero. >> yes. >> yes. >> that's correct. yes so most of the questions asked about say something like a plastic cannula safer for patients are being rejected on environmental grounds. >> oh my gosh . yeah. you're >> oh my gosh. yeah. you're going to end up with what a paper cannula. yeah. just disintegrated every two minutes i two things i wonder if there's a legal challenge in that one day if somebody dies. >> yeah. and they argue that you haven't been provided with the best possible, but the bit best care possible, but the bit that stuck out me was the that stuck out to me was the thing about electric ambulances. i just green they
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i wonder just how green they are. think they'll need to be are. i think they'll need to be renewed more, regularly renewed more, more regularly than ambulance. than the diesel ambulance. i don't think do same don't think they'll do the same kind of course kind of mileage. and of course it's operating. what happens it's the operating. what happens when dies? when the battery dies? >> yeah. >> yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah. >> well, i mean, as >> matthew. well, i mean, as sean saying earlier, that he sean was saying earlier, that he does think the electric ambulances an issue ambulances will be an issue because a&e is long because the way a&e is so long that the ambulance will have time after 14 years time to recharge after 14 years of failure, years, he of tory failure, 14 years, he keeps saying it, but he's not wrong. >> he asked me 14. >> he asked me 14. >> can i just say, as the only woman here, that i think the climate friendly pain relief for mothers labour not prove popular? >> oh my god. >> oh my god. >> and may prompt rebellion. i'm saving environment. saving the environment. >> impression. >> don't do an impression. >> don't do an impression. >> no , i mean now i hurt the >> no, i mean now i hurt the wall between william and harry gone way too far. the prince of wales attended the diana legacy award event in person tonight, while the duke of sussex dialled in virtually from california . in virtually from california. >> but harry would only appear once his brother scarpered off after making a speech. here's what william had to say about his mother . his late mother. >> she taught me that everyone
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has potential give has the potential to give something back, that everyone in need deserves a supporting hand in life . that legacy is in life. that legacy is something that both catherine and i sought to focus on through our work. >> see it so a mention of his wife kate there, but not harry. >> this comes after the duke and duchess of sussex denied having a dig at the princess of wales photoshop mishap. crucially, though, they refused to send any well—wishes to stoke well—wishes to kate and to stoke tensions higher. this has tensions even higher. this has just landed. meghan launched her new endeavour, flogging new business endeavour, flogging homeware and jam on the same day as diana's memorial awards. i mean matthew, you know, does she have no shame? >> well, quite, i mean, i'm slightly worried about the size of william's tie there. it was slightly alarming, but on a more serious note, i mean, what are the sussexes going to do? they need to shut up and find something to i mean, it's something to do. i mean, it's pretty tasteless. flogging, a flogging, a jam range while you're just it says they said on
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the thing. >> but meghan, the duchess of sussex and you think, well, why are you dining out on this? >> you hate it. i thought, i thought they dropped all the titles. >> all this taken away? >> all this taken away? >> nope, nope. >> nope, nope. >> they kept that one. they're not prince. he's not print. >> think reality bites. it was >> i think reality bites. it was great the great for them to attack the royal they forgot royal family, but they forgot that notoriety because that their notoriety was because they in royal family, they were in the royal family, which endeavoured to which they then endeavoured to remove. think diana remove. but i think that, diana was mother. was a great mother. >> she absolutely those >> she absolutely loved those two she would be two boys, and she would be heartbroken. totally all right. >> front has it >> the mail front page has it right. she'd be knocking the heads wouldn't heads together, wouldn't you? >> now i bring you. >> okay, now i can bring you. yes i can live footage of rishi sunak his sunak clinging to his premiership, there . premiership, apparently, there. we can play it again. there we go. clinging to his premiership . go. clinging to his premiership. and there it is, up. oh, it's on the floor. it's time to reveal today's greatest britain and union jackass. today's greatest britain and union jackass . allison. who's union jackass. allison. who's your greatest britain >> it's sirjacob rees—mogg who >> it's sir jacob rees—mogg who called for net zero targets to be postponed indefinitely because he's fed up and making us colder and pay more when we
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need a sensible energy policy that delivers cheap energy. well done for having a paper cannula, epidurals or anything else. >> caroline age is there? god? >> caroline age is there? god? >> my greatest britain is baroness fox of buckley. for her staunch defence, not just emotional but technical of gb news in its existence , i can news in its existence, i can proudly say she was the baroness who introduced me to the lord. she is fabulous. she's fierce for free, for free speech, and she's fierce for the country. >> and here she is. >> and here she is. >> this month alone, gb news has more views than sky news 48% of the time, and more than bbc news 29% of the time. love it or loathe it, the channel is surely a valuable shake up of the media landscape . landscape. >> have it right, matthews . >> have it right, matthews. >> have it right, matthews. >> your greatest i don't think i'm going to win, but it's tory. but let me get it out. it's tory. west midlands mayor andy street. we're putting party before country and calling for the cowardly conservatives to do the cowardly conservatives to do the right thing return the the right thing and return the tainted million putting tainted 10 million putting country party. country before party. >> got that the wrong way
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>> you got that the wrong way round, did i? >> yeah, because everybody's laughing if baroness fox. >> yeah, of course it is. >> well done. >> well done. >> yeah jack carson. no, >> okay. yeah jack carson. no, alison. >> p- alison. >> trans activists who >> it's the trans activists who complained this ban on complained about this nhs ban on puberty blockers for vulnerable young children. it's high time this dreadful treatment was withdrawn. life changing treatments to vulnerable young people. >> sean , my jackass, is angela >> sean, my jackass, is angela renee, mp for not taking the opportunity to clear up things about her living situation and let's be clear, it's not so much about this. it's about the double standard . why? double standard. why? >> police said there's no >> the police said there's no case to answer. >> the police said there's no caswhyanswer. >> the police said there's no cas why hasn't. >> the police said there's no cas why hasn't this been >> the police said there's no caswhy hasn't this been all over >> why hasn't this been all over the newspaper? you bet your bottom . if was a tory bottom dollar. if she was a tory mp, be plastered to and fro mp, it'd be plastered to and fro . and angela rayner's goings on is rayner's business, is angela rayner's business, i suppose. but it's about the double standard. >> okay. >> okay. >> and is the ceo, martin >> and mine is the ceo, martin rolfe of national air traffic control , ryanair called for rolfe of national air traffic control, ryanair called for him to after the damning to resign after the damning report condemned them for report today condemned them for a significant pre a significant lack of pre planning, pre—planning for the it meltdown last august bank
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holiday, which left 700,000 people stranded, okay, so today's union jackass is the old trans activist for exactly the reasons that alison outlined there. strong stuff there, guys. thank you very, very much. and, yeah, conservative mayor, says that he would give back frank astor's donations and his street there as well. i don't know why. that's just my old turkey, but there it is. all right. okay. well, look, i'll be back again tomorrow at 9 pm. headliners next, thanks to panel. thanks next, thanks to my panel. thanks to who's watching and to everybody who's watching and listening. care. listening. take care. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar , sponsors of weather on . solar, sponsors of weather on. gb news. >> good evening. welcome to your latest weather update from the met office for gb news tomorrow will be a case of dodging the downpours. some pretty heavy ones around, but also some bright spells when low pressure is dominating. sitting right over the uk. you never are going
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to have dry weather for long, but this low has been providing some very soggy conditions through central and southern scotland, through the and scotland, through the day. and it wet overnight here. it stays wet overnight here. showers becoming a bit showers elsewhere becoming a bit dner showers elsewhere becoming a bit drier for england and wales through the night, then more through the night, but then more heavy from heavy downpours coming from the southwest through the early hours. that as hours. gusty winds with that as well . even the odd rumble well. maybe even the odd rumble of thunder that might wake you up. mild night for most, up. a very mild night for most, but just enough for a touch but just low enough for a touch of scotland, of frost in northern scotland, in so a damp in the countryside. so a damp and chilly start for most of scotland. further heavy showers further south. a lot of spray and surface water on the roads for the morning commute. those downpours ease through downpours should ease through the day but it stays dull and damp for southeast scotland. northeast england elsewhere, a mixture of bright spells but also some further showers. again pretty england and pretty mild for england and wales. 1516 where we see some sunshine a cold feeling day, sunshine but a cold feeling day, particularly that persistent rain scotland gets pretty rain over scotland gets pretty cold on friday night. many of us will the weekend a will start the weekend with a touch of but also many of touch of frost, but also many of us will start some sunshine us will start with some sunshine . stays fine for much of eastern
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newsroom at 11:00. i'm sophia wenzler your top story this houn wenzler your top story this hour. the prime minister has ruled out holding a general election on the 2nd of may. amid speculation he could choose to go to the polls. earlier, in an interview with itv, rishi sunak was asked if there would be an election on the same day as the local elections, which takes place on the 2nd of may. he replied there won't be a general election on that day . michael election on that day. michael gove has named some of the groups to be investigated under a new definition of extremism, which she says will mean the government can express more clearly than ever who poses a risk to britain. some of the groups included are alleged to have islamist views, with others described as neo—nazi. today's new extremism definition will be used to assess whether some groups should be marginalised or blocked from public funding. but michael gove insists it's not about silencing those with private and peaceful beliefs . private and peaceful beliefs. >> we have to be clear eyed about the threat we face, precise about where that threat
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comes from and rigorous in defending our democracy. that means upholding freedom of expression, religion and belief when they are threatened, facing down harassment and hate, supporting the communities facing the greatest challenge from extremist activity and ensuring this house and this country are safe, free and united. >> meanwhile, angela rayner says she would like to see diane abbott brought back as a labour mp. former shadow home secretary mr abbott is currently an independent mp after she had the whip withdrawn following remarks she made in the observer last year over racism. there have been calls for to her have the whip restored since the race row erupted this week . mps are erupted this week. mps are getting a pay rise with an inflation busting 5.5% boost, pushing salaries to around £91,000. it means pay will increase by more than £4,700 next year, or almost £400 extra each month. the westminster watchdog says it's in line with an award for senior civil
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