i >> -- >> nine. search on monday, the 18th of march. this is britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pierce and bev turner. >> very good morning to you. so stick with me. that's the fightback message the prime fightback message from the prime minister penny minister as rumours of a penny mordaunt takeover louder and mordaunt takeover get louder and some good news. >> of wales was >> the princess of wales was spotted on a visit to her favourite windsor farm shop, looking happy, relaxed and healthy weekend she was healthy at the weekend she was with william and with prince william and contemporary villain. >> that's how the former prime minister is being described in a display at the victoria and albert museum in london. she's been put alongside hitler and

osama bin laden in terms of unpopularity, is that a little unfair .7 unfair? >> and another act of wokery get this staff at lloyds tsb, the bank, which owns scottish widows, won't use the word widows as it triggers upsetting memories for staff. goodness me. >> this kate story is interesting because , as i was interesting because, as i was interested to hear from you, andrew, as somebody who works on newspapers, there are no photographs of her in her favourite shop . i favourite windsor farm shop. i don't she has lots don't know whether she has lots of shops she of windsor farm shops that she likes, why would the paper likes, but why would the paper run it if there's no photo? >> could that got >> could be that they've got them, but decided them, but they've decided because privacy , and the because of her privacy, and the palace have said we'd palace may have said we'd rather you because want her you didn't because they want her to make this slow recovery. and there's been reports at the weekend, two that we will weekend, two that she. we will see around easter when she see her around easter when she may even talk about what has

been her. so even the been afflicting her. so even the papers, which you get a lot of hassle sometimes we understand the rights, sometimes a bit of privacy, even though it's a pubuc privacy, even though it's a public place. i can't believe people's cameras weren't clicking. but obviously clicking. yeah, but obviously that's how we're reporting it, that's how we're reporting it, that she was seen and that she appeared healthy and happy. >> that good. >> and that is good. >> and that is good. >> and that is good. >> and let's she is. >> and let's hope she is. >> and let's hope she is. >> also this morning, the >> so also this morning, the british museum uk's most british museum was the uk's most popular last popular tourist attraction last yeah popular tourist attraction last year. what are the best attractions you live ? we attractions where you live? we will a shout out to the will give a shout out to the places all be going, places we should all be going, visiting we've got visiting particularly we've got the easter holiday weekend the easter bank holiday weekend not million away haven't the easter bank holiday weekend not letillion away haven't the easter bank holiday weekend not let us on away haven't the easter bank holiday weekend not let us know away haven't the easter bank holiday weekend not let us know avthoughtsl't we? let us know your thoughts this morning. at gb this morning. gb views at gb news. though, the very news. com first though, the very latest headlines latest news headlines with sophia wenzler. >> bev thank you. good morning . >> bev thank you. good morning. it's 933. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom . your top story the gb newsroom. your top story this hour. the prime minister has urged tory mps to stick with the plan amid speculation about a challenge to his leadership. rishi sunak told backbenchers

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it's back to andrew and. bev. >> oh, very good morning . 935 >> oh, very good morning. 935 monday morning. welcome to britain's newsroom on gb news with me, bev turner and andrew pierce. >> well, the prime minister is speaking later today and he's urging conservatives to stick by him as a new welter of reports saying he's going to be ousted in the next two weeks. >> some tories are attempting to use leader of the house, >> some tories are attempting to use mordaunt, the house, >> some tories are attempting to use mordaunt, ase house, >> some tories are attempting to use mordaunt, as a house, >> some tories are attempting to use mordaunt, as a candidate penny mordaunt, as a candidate to trigger leadership race. to trigger a leadership race. >> well, if you recall her, she was the one who wielded with aplomb the ceremonial sword at the king's coronation. is that really a reason to make someone next prime minister of the united kingdom? the fact they held us all with great dignity and style for a whole hour. >> oh my goodness. if that is considered to be a qualifying characteristic of becoming prime minister, then i genuinely need to leave this country because thatis to leave this country because that is utterly ridiculous. >> that and that is what she's best known for. she's pretty good commons as good in the house of commons as speaken good in the house of commons as speaker, never run speaker, but she's never run a

major at rishi, of major ministry at rishi, of course, was least chancellor course, was at least chancellor of was of the exchequer. she was international development secretary, away money, secretary, giving away money, frankly, which we frankly, money which we shouldn't away anyway . shouldn't be giving away anyway. and she's been leader of the commons. she was defence secretary about three weeks. secretary for about three weeks. no it. and no no qualifications for it. and here's that i can't here's the thing that i can't stand. too woke. so she stand. she's too woke. so she refers to we're going to bring sarah colleague from sarah vine, my colleague from the and decent the mail, and decent conversation. referred conversation. she's referred memorably to memorably in the commons to pregnant wrong pregnant people. what's wrong with pregnant people. what's wrong witia lot , and pregnant people. what's wrong witia lot, and i don't think she >> a lot, and i don't think she has the warmth, the connection . has the warmth, the connection. i don't like the way she answers some of the questions in the house of commons. i don't like the way she's quite snooty about things and quite dismissive of people who agree with her. people who don't agree with her. no. i'm the person no. 100% not. i'm the person you want over . believe no. 100% not. i'm the person you want over. believe me, want to win over. believe me, she's not. she's not that. she's not it. >> sarah, you've written about this. know, penny morden. this. you know, penny morden. i've mordaunt a i've known penny mordaunt for a very time. nice lady. very long time. very nice lady. she of cats. yeah, she has lots of cats. yeah, i have one cat. not. not a reason to become prime minister. >> i mean, i think the thing is, the danger what happened last

the danger is what happened last time the tory party elected somebody on the basis of the grass roots choice . grass roots choice. >> so she's she's doing really well on conservative home, which is the grass roots website , the is the grass roots website, the last time we elected a leader on that basis, we got liz truss, liz truss and that, you know, so there's a massive disconnect between the kind of person who appears to the tory grassroots voter and the kind of person who would well general would play well in a general election campaign and who has to appeal the entire country and appeal to the entire country and i think, i think that's that's a problem. i mean, people like the tories tory grass roots tories like her tory grass roots people because she people like her because she comes family . comes from military family. yeah, did awfully well at yeah, she did awfully well at the dignified, the coronation, very dignified, etcetera , etc, the woke stuff, etcetera, etc, the woke stuff, i mean, a of people don't mean, a lot of people don't perhaps don't know that she was quite unsound on all that stuff, very upset. i mean, she really was. and a lot people who , was. and a lot of people who, you know, a of women from you know, a lot of women from all political backgrounds , you all political backgrounds, you know, right, middle, top, know, left, right, middle, top, bottom, all unite behind this idea that, you know, we don't we don't want women's rights to be

eroded. and sort of she eroded. and she was sort of she was unsound on that . so for was very unsound on that. so for me, that's that's a real problem. >> she has a twin brother to whom she's very close because they mum when they whom she's very close because they very mum when they whom she's very close because they very young. jm when they whom she's very close because they very young. thathen they whom she's very close because they very young. that made ey whom she's very close because they very young. that made them were very young. that made them very close. was almost very close. and she was almost like is a like mum to him. and he is a he's activist in the, in the he's an activist in the, in the trans field. and i think he's had being very careful how i phrase this heavy influence on her, undue influence on her call you what you will and he she sees a lot of and of course she's entitled to her views. how can the prime minister of this country hold view country possibly hold the view that, there's that, more to the point, there's no what are you doing? >> you're rearranging deck >> you're rearranging the deck chairs titanic. i mean, chairs on the titanic. i mean, you have a new leader now, you can't have a new leader now, that's that would just be that's just. that would just be madness. since the general madness. one, since the general election laughable and election should be laughable and starmer call an election starmer would call an election rightly. know , you'd go rightly. and, you know, you'd go straight to the polls. i just think it's, know, i think think it's, you know, i think rishi has, you know, rishi, i personally i mean, this poll that we had in the mail on sunday at the weekend, which was catastrophic , 250 seats. catastrophic, 250 seats. i personally think it could be worse than that. the

worse than that. i think the conservatives, i've said this before, could before, you know, they could find for cancer and find a cure for cancer and people still vote people still wouldn't vote for them. general feeling them. there's a general feeling of people tired. of malaise. people are tired. you there's a there's you know, there's a there's a sense that that that there's almost nothing that they can do to ship around . rishi, to turn the ship around. rishi, bless he's going to keep bless him, he's going to keep trying. know , you've got trying. and you know, you've got to him for that. to respect him for that. but i think sometimes life you just think sometimes in life you just have take the medicine. yeah. have to take the medicine. yeah. and tories might and i think the tories might just the medicine. just have to take the medicine. >> i was with some tories at the weekend on friday and they said the same thing. nobody's listening. doesn't matter what they're . so they the they're saying. so they had the budget. big poll by budget. there was a big poll by michael at the weekend michael ashcroft at the weekend showing there lot of showing that there was a lot of popular cut in national popular the cut in national insurance the insurance was popular and the tax still the tax was popular, but still the tories poll rating went down further and i think this is the other thing. >> i think a lot of people feel quite disenfranchised in this country. i mean, you know, i don't really know who to vote for. mean, i'm for. i mean, i'm, i'm a conservative, you i conservative, but i, you know, i don't really there's no one i mean, dems are just sort mean, the lib dems are just sort of sitting around like vultures waiting pick over the carcase of sitting around like vultures wathe; pick over the carcase of sitting around like vultures wathe tory3ick over the carcase of sitting around like vultures wathe tory defeat. r the carcase of sitting around like vultures wathe tory defeat. reform rcase of sitting around like vultures wathe tory defeat. reform are e of the tory defeat. reform are

just, they're just all just, you know, they're just all the people hand the mad people on the right hand side you know, are side who i think you know, are just bit kind of okay, just just a bit kind of okay, just a bit too, you know, conservative. well, to their sort of conservative you know, i'm conservative in a, you know, i'm quite socially liberal, you know, they're on, they're on the sort of colonel, what i would describe as sort of telegraph side of toryism, which is fine. you know, there's but but you know, there's no but but everything fractured and, everything is so fractured and, and it's hard to know. and so it's hard to know. there's there's person there's no there's no one person uniting everything. and you look at and you of at keir starmer and you think of this, you this, this sort this, you know, this, this sort of he's going to be of people that he's going to be putting charge, this putting in charge, this so—called know, angela so—called quad, you know, angela rayner and know, who's, rayner and you know, who's, who's sort embroiled in who's who's sort of embroiled in this about her two this bizarre story about her two homes. you know, who bought her council flat on the right to buy scheme. which me again , scheme. which reminds me again, who brought that in? margaret thatcher? you know, this is a woman who says all tory are scum, and she benefits from scum, and yet she benefits from a conservative policy. it just all feels so sort of mad and hypocritical muddled up. and all feels so sort of mad and hjust ritical muddled up. and all feels so sort of mad and hjust don't muddled up. and all feels so sort of mad and hjust don't reallynuddled up. and all feels so sort of mad and hjust don't really ijddled up. and all feels so sort of mad and hjust don't really i my ed up. and all feels so sort of mad and hjust don't really i my great. and i just don't really i my great fear at the election is that people just won't vote. think people just won't vote. i think you're and

you're absolutely right. and i think that what's going think that is what's going that's really because, you that's really sad because, you know, important. know, democracy is important. and, know, we've seen and, you know, we've just seen the in russia . look the elections in russia. look what there is no what happens when there is no democratic vote. >> so what do you think is the plan in number 10. just keep pushing on to the autumn i hope that keir starmer does something. hope reform. don't gain any more momentum. yeah. >> stick to the knitting and just carry on. stick to their knitting. i would just do that i think i think penny mordaunt should come out today or tomorrow feels tomorrow whenever she feels ready and say, look, i'm not running maybe running to be the leader. maybe rishi give a job. you rishi could give her a job. you know, nothing wrong with that. give give her give her a job, give her something to if people, you something to do. if people, you know, the grassroots tories know, if the grassroots tories really her, then give her really like her, then give her a role, you know, fantastic. >> going to get a cut in >> we're going to get a cut in inflation think inflation on wednesday. we think there a cut interest there could be a cut in interest rates but will they get any rates but but will they get any benefit for it. >> well the thing about >> well i mean the thing about politics about politics and the thing about good none of good politics is that none of the policies do ever the policies that you do ever see benefit for at least ten see any benefit for at least ten years, you never you know, years, you never get, you know, you don't get the reward you you don't get the reward immediately. so immediately. that's why it's so difficult, in a sort

difficult, you know, in a sort of election because, you of election thing, because, you know, good work that you know, all the good work that you do won't do probably won't, won't percolate after do probably won't, won't percol.dead after do probably won't, won't percol.dead buried. er you're dead and buried. >> see the >> were you pleased to see the front of the sun, kate ? front page of the sun, kate? >> yes. yes, absolutely. yeah. lovely. >> we're going to talk about that moment. that's that in just a moment. that's a marvellous for everyone at marvellous tease for everyone at home. the princess of wales, andrew says, has been apparently seen out about. we haven't seen out and about. we haven't seen out and about. we haven't seen photos though. and also seen out and about. we haven't seen khaniotos though. and also seen out and about. we haven't seen khan ,»tos though. and also seen out and about. we haven't seen khan , anythough. and also seen out and about. we haven't seen khan , any minute and also seen out and about. we haven't seen khan , any minute now also seen out and about. we haven't seen khan , any minute now isso sadiq khan, any minute now is going joined by sir keir going to be joined by sir keir starmer launch his bid to be starmer to launch his bid to be re—elected as london mayor. cue the groan andrew pierce. this is

gb news. >> well, we've still got in the studio, trailed sarah vine from the daily mail. now we're talking about catherine middleton. here's the front page of sun. they a scoop, of the sun. they have a scoop, kate. outdoor. she's seen out with at farm. first with william at farm. first pubuc with william at farm. first public ends. web rumours. public trip ends. web rumours. that photograph, however, is not of at the farm store of kate at the farm store

because the sun hasn't published a photograph of her. they may have one which goes there, choosing it. sarah choosing not to run it. sarah varne what you all this? >> well, that's bit naughty of >> well, that's a bit naughty of them make it look that's them to make it look like that's a picture, it does look a picture, because it does look like yeah, does. like that. yeah, it does. >> i mean, when the >> i mean, when you think the controversy over photographs and kate. controversy over photographs and kat it's a bit naughty and >> it's a bit naughty and they're not the like almost every publication this. >> morning e morning woken up >> this morning i was woken up bleary at my phone bleary eyed, look at my phone early morning her on early this morning to see her on a zooming in. how a website and zooming in. how did look? did she look did she look? did she look tired? looked then tired? she looked well, then realised looking a photo realised i'm looking at a photo from 23rd. from may 23rd. >> i i know, i mean it's >> i know, i know, i mean it's good, it's nice that she's out and about feeling better. and about and feeling better. and i honestly think that you know, mean, know, know, i mean, i don't know, i don't know if your viewers spend much internet, but much time on the internet, but the that are out on the the rumours that are out on the internet about her are just unbelievable. and it's a reminder what absolute reminder of what an absolute kind the internet kind of wild west the internet is. i mean, you know, we think that's a bit cheeky. yes, that's a little bit cheeky. yes, that's a little bit cheeky. yes, that little bit cheeky. but that is a little bit cheeky. but what's online is i mean, what's online is beyond i mean, absolutely what's online is beyond i mean, abs have .y what's online is beyond i mean, abs have handled what's online is beyond i mean, abshave handled terribly >> have handled it terribly though >> have handled it terribly tho well have but i think >> well they have but i think also i just don't think they even of understand the even they kind of understand the extent which the of extent to which the madness of

the internet contributed to the internet has contributed to all seen all of this. i mean, i've seen awful online awful stuff online and especially sites like tiktok, especially on sites like tiktok, you know, where people sort you know, where people have sort of things up and it's of mocked things up and it's just awful and, and it's just been awful and, and it's completely unregulated . there's completely unregulated. there's no comeback. can't you can't no comeback. you can't you can't stop. i don't think that's stop. well, i don't think that's because i think that at a certain point you know, you can't say that that there's some of the stuff that's online is actually really libellous about her. >> and the thing is, you say good, bad, but we're regulated here some regulation . but you here by some regulation. but you can't just go station and a radio station, newspapers radio station, the newspapers are regulated. but facebook, which mind a media which is to my mind a media outlet, has no regulation. >> but also there are a lot of people online who will look at something on tiktok. a mock up of her in whatever way and think that that's because they that that's real because they just all these papers just said how all these papers have pictures that they're have got pictures that they're passing real. passing off as real. >> i think the mainstream >> i just think the mainstream media doing same thing . media is doing the same thing. >> it's cheap. >> it's very cheap. >> it's very cheap. >> agree, you read the >> i agree, if you read the story, does say we have no story, it does say we have no photograph. yeah, does say that. >> but people don't always read the nobody the story. so i mean, nobody is blameless i the

blameless in this. i think the most important terms of most important thing in terms of this that there is a this story is that there is a woman the centre this who woman at the centre of this who is clearly struggling with her health. the other question, is clearly struggling with her hea supplementary|er question, is clearly struggling with her hea supplementary question on, is clearly struggling with her hea su is lementary question on, is clearly struggling with her hea suis what 1tary question on, really is what is our relationship public relationship as the public with the family and how the royal family and how much honesty have to give us honesty do they have to give us as subjects? as their subjects? >> personally , i've >> i mean, personally, i've always that, you know, always thought that, you know, if something wrong always thought that, you know, if her, something wrong always thought that, you know, if her, so that's1g wrong with her, then that's her business to business and we don't need to know details of it. but i know the details of it. but i do think that you say is true, think that what you say is true, that palace have it that the palace have handled it really quite badly. and i think they're advising they're not being advised very well. and i think are think the people who are supposedly their of supposedly running their sort of pr department really pr department don't really understand landscape that understand the landscape that they're up against. you know, i don't think they kind of understand the degree to which, particularly in america on particularly in america and on and on american website and, and on an american website and, you know, news channels, there's it's just a sort of mad free for all. and they need to try and harness all of that. they need to get all of under to get all of that under control, they're doing that. >> what did you make of the sunday times story yesterday that probably see that she we probably will see her there's her quite soon. there's speculation she'll join speculation that she she'll join the church at the royal family at church at sandringham sunday, which

sandringham on sunday, which would great, but that she would be great, but that she will some point at her will talk at some point at her pace and on her terms about her health and the battle, she said whether she goes into the detail, do you think there does need to be that level of transparency now? >> sarah, it's up to >> sarah, i think it's up to her. i think it depends how she feels about think do feels about it. i think i do think a think that even if you're a celebrity you know, celebrity or a, you know, whether you're very, just very famous you're famous or whether you're a royal, know, there are some famous or whether you're a royal, thatznow, there are some famous or whether you're a royal, that are /, there are some famous or whether you're a royal, that are personal,e some famous or whether you're a royal, that are personal, aren't; things that are personal, aren't they? and to remain they? and need to remain personal. mean, she feels personal. i mean, if she feels whatever wrong with personal. i mean, if she feels wha'if/er wrong with personal. i mean, if she feels wha'if she wrong with personal. i mean, if she feels wha'if she feels wrong with personal. i mean, if she feels wha'if she feels she wrong with personal. i mean, if she feels wha'if she feels she wants with personal. i mean, if she feels wha'if she feels she wants to th her, if she feels she wants to talk it because, you know, talk about it because, you know, because could wider because it could have a wider benefit, you then that's benefit, you know, then that's a good idea. but it has to be her decision. but don't think that decision. but i don't think that was you know, wasn't was the you know, that wasn't the had last the problem that we had last week. the that it week. it was the fact that it was that things had was the fact that things had been know, and been altered, you know, and i think would rather i think people would rather i think people would rather i think if you say to people, look, i'm really sorry, i don't want to about what's want to talk about what's happened me. it's very happened to me. it's very personal i don't personal and i don't i don't really it. i'm really want to share it. i'm sorry, okay. that's one sorry, but i'm okay. that's one thing. but if sort try thing. but if you sort of try and manipulate, but also, as and manipulate, and but also, as we're how we're saying, that how

anachronistic a world anachronistic is that in a world where everybody broadcasts anachronistic is that in a world where ever about broadcasts anachronistic is that in a world where ever about theiricasts anachronistic is that in a world where ever about their life.; everything about their life. >> and i think that's why the younger generation, who maybe are are leaping are on social media, are leaping to conclusions they're to conclusions because they're like privacy. we don't do privacy. >> e over shares, >> everyone over shares, everyone over shares everything. >> and also particularly women of kate's, sort of age as of kate's, kate's sort of age as well. now everything is all about menopause or fertility problems or weight issues, mental health. mental health, mental health. and taken this very and so she's taken this very unusual step for her generation to want to retain some to say, i want to retain some privacy over this. and i've i've sort of oscillated with this story as we've gone along, but i think i'm coming to the position now very happy for her now where i'm very happy for her to retain privacy and her to retain her privacy and her dignity. about this. dignity. actually about this. >> is something >> and if it is something embarrassing, it be embarrassing, yeah, it could be something embarrassing, yeah, it could be sometbecause we don't and yeah. because we don't know. and it business at the end. >> but also she might just need to process what's happened to her. , sometimes people her. you know, sometimes people just process just need to process the experience they've she experience that they've had. she needs work how feels experience that they've had. she needs it. work how feels experience that they've had. she needs it. and: how feels experience that they've had. she needs it. and then how feels experience that they've had. she needs it. and then how she's ls about it. and then when she's ready, it. ready, she'll talk about it. >> what we know, of course, >> what we do know, of course, though, is when the king, though, sarah, is when the king, when out the king when we found out that the king was into hospital because

was going into hospital because he an enlarged prostate, was going into hospital because he the n enlarged prostate, was going into hospital because he the nhs arged prostate, was going into hospital because he the nhs wasd prostate, was going into hospital because he the nhs was blown, ate, was going into hospital because he the nhs was blown, nearly god, the nhs was blown, nearly blown by men , blown away, overwhelmed by men, in of my in particular men of my generation their generation contacting their doctor, hospice, generation contacting their doctor, what hospice, generation contacting their doctor, what about|ospice, generation contacting their doctor, what about me?:e, generation contacting their doctor, what about me? because generation contacting their doct(haven't. about me? because generation contacting their doct(haven't. squt me? because generation contacting their doct(haven't. so that's? because generation contacting their doct(haven't. so that's why:ause they haven't. so that's why sometimes it can be really, really, agree, but don't really, i agree, but don't forget the king has been has been, you know, he's been a very prominent royal all his life. >> yeah, slightly. it's a different scenario. slightly. and she's married into the royal family. little bit family. it's a little bit different. not used to different. she's not used to it. well is of used, but well she is sort of used, but she's not, you know, she wasn't born doesn't it isn't born to it. it doesn't it isn't sort hardwired her. sort of hardwired into her. yeah. way it is with yeah. in the way that it is with him without her, i would him and without her, i would genuinely be fearful for the future royal family oh, future of the royal family oh, i mean, honestly, last week, was very for us at the very interesting for us at the daily mail because we had such an outpouring of support for her. and it's clear it's very clear that that that people in this absolutely adore this country absolutely adore her she is a fantastic her and think she is a fantastic addition to the royal family. and i think , i think that the and i think, i think that the royals really need to be very conscious of that fact. and, you know, she's an absolute asset to

them. >> yeah, she looks the part. she sounds the part. she doesn't put a foot wrong. no. she's a great ambassador and she's never she's she's not competing well. >> she understands the assignment as they say. >> whereas meghan was >> whereas meghan always was very conscious that she was being overshadowed by everybody else, meghan wanted to be the star. that's not kate. kate knows family well. knows the royal family well. >> now very busy. you >> meghan's now very busy. you know, nigella know, being a new nigella lawson. know, being a new nigella laviyes. >> yes. >> ea- e that whole new >> i noticed that whole new website launched about website she's launched about promoting orchids. website she's launched about pro whatg orchids. website she's launched about pro what is>rchids. website she's launched about pro what is it hids. website she's launched about pro what is it called? >> what is it called? >> what is it called? >> american riviera orchard? >> or american riviera orchard? it's like like word salad. it's like it's like word salad. >> it was, you know >> i thought it was, you know that app? >> i thought it was, you know tha what? words, which >> what? three words, which i thought it was. what three words? >> p w ee— >> address from 1 to 2 words that missing. prince harry. that were missing. prince harry. >> yes, i mentioned anyway. well, andrew, somebody's got to make some money. it's make some money. and it's obviously haven't obviously we haven't quite worked particular worked out what his particular skill have skill set is yet have we. >> outrageous bit, seeing >> the outrageous bit, seeing his outrageous bit his family, the outrageous bit for her relaunching this for me of her relaunching this brand she's it brand is that she's done it under duchess sussex or under the duchess of sussex or she has. >> surely you family , >> surely you hate the family, you hate the role, and yet you're happy to keep. >> i want to be of the >> and i want to be one of the world's feminists. world's great feminists. >> what she said?

>> is that what she said? >> is that what she said? >> oh, yeah. oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. yeah yeah yeah. >> oh. bless her. >> oh. bless her. >> good luck her. >> well, good luck to her. >> well, good luck to her. >> right, sarah, think i think >> right, sarah, i think i think we've time for more we've got time for one more question. question. question. oh, one more question. margaret being put in margaret thatcher being put in the adolf hitler the same group as adolf hitler and osama bin laden as contemporary baddies. >> i don't know, i'd like to think that. >> it's just that they're just a bit ignorant and don't really understand museum . i understand history museum. i mean, they said the victorians understand history. i mean, sarah, is , i think we sarah, the thing is, i think we can all agree that margaret thatcher controversial thatcher was a controversial political wouldn't political figure, but i wouldn't describe villain. no, describe her as a villain. no, no. or a fascist who killed no. and or a fascist who killed 6 million jews. >> exactly . >> exactly. >> exactly. >> i mean, i don't know. i mean, my, my, my daughter, who's 20, has a theory that the reason that the world is going to pot is because it's now being run by millennials who have never read a true. a history book. this is true. and i imagine it's and i don't know, i imagine it's some sort of, you very some sort of, you know, very woke 30 year old. >> well, yeah, course, which >> well, yeah, of course, which has terrible has made this terrible comparison is by a former comparison is run by a former labour called tristram hunt labour mp called tristram hunt is, an historian, is, of course, an historian, clearly not a very good one.

>> well, interestingly, not a very good one. >> do, do email us and let us know your justification for putting margaret thatcher in that thanks so that group. right. thanks so much, next, sadiq much, sarah, up next, sadiq khan is relaunch london is going to relaunch his london mayoral minute now. mayoral bid any minute now. what? wait. what could he promise you so that you would vote for him in the mayoral elections? and if not him? who gb views at gb news. com here, though, the weather with though, is the weather with craig . craig snell. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> good morning and welcome to your latest gb news weather forecast from the met office. we're looking ahead to today. i think most of us should see some sunshine, but unfortunately there some further rain on there is some further rain on there is some further rain on the horizon. back to this the horizon. but back to this morning. we do have this band of cloud across central parts cloud across more central parts of some spots of of the country. some spots of rain in places too, but either side there is some good amounts of sunshine and approach

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to gbnews.com/alerts. now it's back to andrew and . bev. back to andrew and. bev. >> 1006 with britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pearson bev turner. and we couldn't have scripted this better . a bev turner. and we couldn't have scripted this better. a former adviser to margaret thatcher sits before us piers pottinger also advised john major, the v&a, one of our most venerable institutions, receives about £10 million a year in public funding per year, adding mrs. thatcher to a list of pantomime villains alongside osama bin laden and adolf hitler. i'm sorry, it's unacceptable. >> no, it's absolutely outrageous , of course. but don't outrageous, of course. but don't forget the director of the v&a is one tristram hunt, former labour mp. yes and this is another example of how spiteful and jealous the labour party are. and remain of margaret thatcher. in my view, the greatest prime minister in my lifetime. and she at least put

britain back on its feet, made people proud to go to work again, and actually wanting to go to work . and despite people go to work. and despite people trying to blow her up, i think even if she was around today, she wouldn't be fussed about this. she's got a good sense of humour. she'd love to. she'd laugh about it. but i mean, the point is that bin laden and hitler are murderers, mass murderers on a horrible scale, and to include her in that triumvirate, it's absurd. absolutely absurd. >> the point just to slightly in defence of the museum is that it's a an installation about punch and judy puppet shows. so they say over the years, the evil character in the seaside puppet show has shifted from the devil to unpopular public figures, including adolf hitler, margaret thatcher and osama bin laden to offer contemporary villains . so they're not villains. so they're not actually saying, are they, that she's as bad as them . she's she's as bad as them. she's saying over the years, she has

been transposed as the villain in a punch and judy show. >> the v&a, named after one of our greatest monarchs, victoria, empress of india, i just think it's a joke because actually they know the impact this will have. what are the headlines? maggie is as bad as bin. >> of course, they were trying to tristram to get headlines. and tristram hunt this. hunt will enjoy this. >> he's supposed to be >> yeah. and he's supposed to be an historian. >> yeah. and he's supposed to be an and rian. they're trying to >> and also they're trying to promote an exhibition which quite frankly, think quite frankly, i don't think many people would be rushing to. yeah. because judy or yeah. because punch and judy or punch and, very punch and judy and, very entertaining. they are on brighton beach or they used to be, but they've probably been banned now for political. they probably have because of domestic violence , and of domestic violence, and of course, sausages are probably , course, sausages are probably, you know, ultra processed foods. yeah. but for goodness sake, you know, wokery can go so far, but i do think that it's unfortunate they they used bin laden and, hitler with margaret there were there are always popular

contemporary villains and almost any prime minister is going to be the subject of humour and attack and satire, and that's as it should be. >> i find it a little implausible that any punch and judy show would ever have a osama bin laden as the character, but given that the children watching know who he is have any idea who he is anyway, but bin was part of but also bin laden was part of a medieval islamist cult that wanted to destroy buried women alive the sin being alive for the sin of being women. >> this was the first woman prime minister and the prime minister in europe and the most successful , prime minister in europe and the most successful, yeah. is penny mordaunt. the new margaret thatcher? >> no, i don't think so, because the some tories think she should be the next leader. yes but i mean, this is just, the tories seem to be on a suicide wish, destroying themselves by the day. and a new leader isn't going to make any difference now. not from this bunch. i think we need to clear the board and get someone fresh in penny , and get someone fresh in penny, don't forget, she once studied

drama at the victory road theatre school in portsmouth, and she also was a magician's assistant, and i think she'd need to wave a magic wand rather than holding a sword if she's going to be anything like. and also, when she was secretary of defence , secretary of state for defence, secretary of state for defence, three months less than three months, actually, everything she's done is only lasts a very short time. and in the house as leader, she spends a long time having a go at the snp and everything she reads from a script at the despatch box. i mean, she it's all written for her by someone else. i don't think she's a lady of substance. i think she is a reasonable backbench mp at best. and when she was minister, my sources tell me that in her ministerial roles outside of being leader of the house, she was lazy. yeah. wasn't impressive, didn't really understand some of the briefs,

let alone read them properly. i mean, i don't think she would be and i don't think the british pubuc and i don't think the british public would be conned for one minute into thinking by making penny mordaunt leader of the conservatives. they deserve to be re—elected. what did? because they don't. >> what did margaret thatcher have? pierce that none of this current politicians seem current crop of politicians seem to have? and was it something about the culture at the time that meant she could be true to her , whereby it her character, whereby it wouldn't be popular now? >> she had principles , she had >> she had principles, she had vision. she believed in the bafic vision. she believed in the basic conservative values that true conservatives who have now been abandoned by rishi and his mob believe in. and it's actually, i think if she was here today, she'd probably be a member of the reform party. >> she would deny that, of course, because she would say she'd have been a lifelong tory. >> she would have been. but if she'd still been and had she'd still been around and had any influence, i don't any kind of influence, i don't think conservatives would be think the conservatives would be in mess. mean, she had in this mess. i mean, she had principles, had visions . she

principles, she had visions. she stuck guns. the lady's principles, she had visions. she stu

heard from her, you listened to her. yeah. and she was formidable in the commons. of course . coui'se. >> course. >> i mean, was a famous >> i mean, there was a famous time she was having time when she was having dinner with ritz, time when she was having dinner withthey ritz, time when she was having dinner withthey were ritz, time when she was having dinner withthey were taking ritz, time when she was having dinner withthey were taking the tz, time when she was having dinner withthey were taking the order and they were taking the order for main and they for the main course, and they all ordered lamb or fish all ordered beef or lamb or fish and the waiter said to margaret and the waiter said to margaret and the waiter said to margaret and the vegetables, she said, they'll the as me . they'll have the same as me. >> i don't know if that story is true, but it's a lovely story. >> well, i like if it's true. >> well, i like if it's true. >> yes, certainly apocryphal. >> yes, certainly apocryphal. >> . thank good. >> right. thank good. >> right. thank good. >> piers, thank you much for >> piers, thank you so much for joining now. to come joining us. now. still to come this rishi sunak set this morning. rishi sunak is set to give about to give a speech about apprenticeships just apprenticeships as piers just mentioned. he to mentioned. is he going to mentioned. is he going to mention rumoured to mention the rumoured plot to replace with penny mordaunt? replace him with penny mordaunt? >> he should make >> i'm guessing he should make a joke it. joke about it. >> not. that's what he >> probably not. that's what he should do. >> joke about it, because >> make a joke about it, because then shows it's not then that shows it's not serious, piers? serious, don't you think, piers? yes, absolutely serious, don't you think, piers? yes i absolutely serious, don't you think, piers? yesi mean, :ely serious, don't you think, piers? yesi mean, yeah, and she should >> i mean, yeah, and she should actually deny it. yeah she should because, playing this game, this is her third attempt to be leader. >> i know i'm silly in the mouth. >> it's silly for her. >> it's silly for her. >> it's silly for her. >> it's not doing her any good, in my view. >> yeah, well, if she comes out

in dress holding sword, in a dress holding a sword, we'll as a comedy line we'll take that as a comedy line from him. >> w-

>> 1017 with britain's newsroom on gp news. with andrew pierce and bev turner. >> we're joining the studio now by former labour adviser, matthew laza and author and broadcaster wolf in the broadcaster emma wolf in the studio. to you studio. good morning to you both. let's start both. right. let's start with this shakespeare week. woke warnings. i almost know what warnings. yes i almost know what you could about. >> yes. it's almost as if it's been written by a sort of chatgpt. for the culture wars. yeah. so shakespeare's globe, has , is offering on its on has, is offering on its on website for people who go to book tickets for plays like richard the third, the comedy of errors, or the taming of the shrew. warnings over shrew. it now has warnings over the content, including misogynistic themes, racism and offensive language, violence and death . i mean, you think by the death. i mean, you think by the title of taming of the shrew, you'd get the misogynistic thing

and you think people might sort of have clue because of have a vague clue because these been around for these books have been around for 400 but 400 years. exactly. but of course, the defence, the course, in the defence, the globe would say, obviously there are know are people who don't know shakespeare, come shakespeare, people who come from different countries where shakespeare may not be such a big the big part of the part of the dialogue. i not dialogue. i mean, i think not defending are you? i'm not. defending it, are you? i'm not. i'll it vaguely. look, i'll defend it vaguely. look, when mum few years when my mum died a few years ago, ended up seeing a play ago, i ended up seeing a play i didn't a sort of about two weeks later, about later, which is all about somebody's have somebody's mum die. i could have done that. so i'm not done without that. so i'm not totally a shakespeare totally against a shakespeare play. it a modern play. no, no, it was a modern play, but i'm not against play, but so. so i'm not against them totally. i think with shakespeare daft. shakespeare it's a bit daft. >> but if you'd had a warning at the of play say the start of that play to say this involve the this story will involve the death mother, you death of a mother, would you have walked out? no. have got up and walked out? no. >> if i'd read it >> but if i'd read it beforehand, i probably would have ticket. you have booked a ticket. you probably should that probably should have at that moment. yeah. you should. i should about it more should have read about it more properly. partly properly. so it's partly it was my you know. properly. so it's partly it was my sorry. know. >> i'm sorry. >> i'm sorry. >> i'm sorry about your personal responsibility. >> yeah. you >> absolutely. yeah. so, you know, i'm not. i'm just saying is issue, know? but is it's an issue, you know? but i think sort of, know, i think sort of, you know, people to the taming people who go to the taming of the have a clue from the shrew might have a clue from

the shrew might have a clue from the it's perhaps not, the title that it's perhaps not, you it's written you know, it's not written an american circa american campus circa 2024. >> it was rather >> and it was a rather magnificent with magnificent film with liz taylor. >> absolutely. kiss me, >> absolutely. and the kiss me, kate as well. kate the musical as well. >> emma, which coming >> emma, which is coming back. >> emma, which is coming back. >> us about >> emma, which is coming back. >> upcoming us about >> emma, which is coming back. >> upcoming generation? about the upcoming generation? >> this is >> i just think this is genuinely mean, if this genuinely sad. i mean, if this actually any young actually prevents any young people of people from going to any of these look, these shakespeare plays, look, it's trigger warning. it's a trigger warning. hopefully you know, hopefully schools and, you know, young will go. audiences will still go. but i think really sad. as think this is really sad. as an engush think this is really sad. as an english graduate , as english literature graduate, as a a geek, think i learned a as a geek, i think i learned a lot life love, about lot about life love, about father daughter relationships from king lear, love from romeo and juliet. you know , there are and juliet. you know, there are so many shakespeare plays in which you actually learn about real life, real emotions, real feelings, real difficult situations. i don't think i don't agree with you about the taming of the shrew. i think it's one of those titles. you think, what is that about? because don't we're not because we don't we're not allowed tell shrews allowed to tell women shrews anymore, are we? >> people wouldn't. >> for young people wouldn't. yeah, know yeah, they wouldn't know the turn the wheel deal. >> this is this is >> you know, this is this is life. and this is why have life. and this is why we have a generation snowflakes who generation of snowflakes who can't anything can't deal with anything challenging anything challenging and new or anything that makes them feel

uncomfortable or upset or unhappy or challenged because they've been shielded and wrapped in cotton wool. >> you are a descendant of virginia woolf, >> you are a descendant of virginia woolf , that is, who virginia woolf, that is, who wrote about, well, committed. >> she committed suicide in the end, she wrote about look, end, but she wrote about look, orlando first transgender orlando is the first transgender novel. orlando is the first transgender novel . yeah. you know, it's novel. yeah. you know, it's a man becomes sorry. it's a man who becomes sorry. it's a woman becomes man woman who becomes a man who becomes again. so becomes a woman again. yeah. so i what she say i just think, what would she say ? she say to all ? what would she say to all this? also, can just deal this? but also, can we just deal with the fact that life isn't easy life is full of easy and that life is full of really tough stuff? but do you think not going to be an easy ride and you're not to be ride and you're not going to be happy day? ride and you're not going to be hapl y day? ride and you're not going to be hapl think day? ride and you're not going to be hapl think these’ ride and you're not going to be hapl think these people be >> i think these people would be trying these trying to protect these teenagers and students want this. isn't it just people thinking what's best? thinking that's what's best? >> yeah, well, we got to situation. >> i think there's gold >> i think there's people gold plating. they're warnings. >> i think there's people gold platpeople, they're warnings. >> i think there's people gold platpeople, they're'thinking it's people, you know, thinking that they're so petrified of causing offence they causing offence that they feel they this to, to use they have to do this to, to use that phrase, they're covering their, you know, is their, you know, what is it, a litigation an is it. i think it's litigation. i think it's just so globe of course, just so the globe of course, sues globe. well, the sues the globe. well, at the moment involved moment the globe is involved in a row because artistic

a big row because the artistic director, to play director, is going to play richard the third. she's an able bodied actress actor, and she's going to play richard the third. >> sorry to interrupt you talking of great leaders, we've got london, where got to go over to london, where sadiq his sadiq khan is launching his re—election as mayor. re—election campaign as mayor. >> to join you >> it's fantastic to join you all here today. you know, they say you wait ages to hear from a labour politician that used to be a lawyer . and then two labour politician that used to be a lawyer. and then two come along at the same time. but seriously, i want to begin by thanking keir for that kind and generous introduction. i know how busy he is and i'm really grateful for him to come here this morning and to show his support. keir is not only a colleague , but, as you've heard, colleague, but, as you've heard, a good friend and someone i know will make a brilliant prime minister so .

minister so. so for everything he's done for our party and for everything he'll do for. and can we also hear it for our magnificent assembly candidate, james small ? james small? >> now, i think andrew couldn't be better. andrew pierce is voodoo doll. appears to be working. >> couldn't be better over that press conference. >> i'm afraid that joke at the beginning , an omen of what beginning was, an omen of what was to come. >> were in for he needs >> we were in for a he needs a new gag writer. >> that was not funny joke. >> that was not a funny joke. >> that was not a funny joke. >> should be voting for sadiq, >> i should be voting for sadiq, but needs gag, right? but he needs a new gag, right? >> even mind if he >> i wouldn't even mind if he ran properly. i mean, ran london properly. i mean, i'll black i'll put up with lame black jokes like that and then fawning over starmer. else over keir starmer. nothing else is funny, really. >> stand each other. they can't stand each other. >> how dare you say that, andrew? they united to win for

labour in london. >> because. because >> you know, because. because keir that the keir starmer knows that the expansion the ultra low expansion of the ultra low emission unpopular emission zone is unpopular and hated working class voters. >> they did have a big row about the ultra low emission zone in the ultra low emission zone in the of the uxbridge by—election. >> it interesting way by—election. >> tories interesting way by—election. >> tories are aresting way by—election. >> tories are suddenly way by—election. >> tories are suddenly going to the tories are suddenly going to challenge isn't it? challenge councils, isn't it? it's an it's almost like there's an election did notice election coming. did you notice they're challenge they're going to challenge councils traffic councils on on low traffic neighbourhoods and 20 mile an hour though hour zones? yeah. even though residents and businesses and emergency services have been shouting for years, i shouting about this for years, i know even labour started to take them out. >> lambeth has just >> labour in lambeth has just taken worst in the taken out the worst in the country three years. country in the last three years. were ambulance authority has >> one ambulance authority has had delays in had 264 ambulance delays in three years because of low traffic neighbourhoods, which are be good for are supposed to be good for absolute low traffic absolute health, low traffic neighbourhoods, waste of time put in the wrong place at the wrong time. >> we need common sense. but you've got to remember, any local you, local politician will tell you, though a lot of calls local politician will tell you, thotraffic a lot of calls local politician will tell you, thotraffic calming a lot of calls local politician will tell you, thotraffic calming measuresalls for traffic calming measures from communities, which from local communities, which ambulance and the police hate. so balance . but so it's getting a balance. but clearly there have been crazy cases. at least my local

cases. and so at least my local council has taken which council has just taken one which is longest bus is causing the longest bus delays is causing the longest bus deland how long it them >> and how long did it take them to do that? >> it's too but they've >> it's too long, but they've done have they done because >> and have they done it because there's in there's an election coming up in may, they've done it may, i think they've done it because exposed as because it was exposed as the longest, the longest because it was exposed as the longdelays the longest because it was exposed as the longdelays in the longest because it was exposed as the longdelays in the the longest because it was exposed as the longdelays in the country,ngest because it was exposed as the longdelays in the country, inest bus delays in the country, in lambeth, in streatham, one of the producers here, lambeth, in streatham, one of the she producers here, lambeth, in streatham, one of the she wasiucers here, lambeth, in streatham, one of the she was tellingiere, lambeth, in streatham, one of the she was telling me she she's, she was telling me she was stuck on her bus for two hours in it. and so, you know, it's made her week. >> the drivers won't >> then the drivers won't let you off. >> p- e yeah, but they're >> yeah. no. yeah, but they're not to. yeah. not allowed to. yeah. yeah, absolutely . absolutely. >> yeah, we need to talk about, the princess of wales. she's on the princess of wales. she's on the front page of the sun again today. the front page of the sun again today . emma, what's your take on today. emma, what's your take on this story now? because i've oscillated between wanting them to be incredibly honest with us and straightforward . and just be straightforward. what be what could they possibly be hiding? to hiding? now? i'm starting to feel for her, and i feel very sorry for her, and i think we just need her alone. >> my take has always been consistent. haven't shifted consistent. i haven't shifted at all. from all. i thought from the beginning they was beginning what they said was happening beginning what they said was happeni|some details. gave us some details. i don't think demand think it's fair to demand further details. what part of your abdomen? what part of this surgery? la la. they your abdomen? what part of this surgeopen. la la. they your abdomen? what part of this surgeopen. same la la. they your abdomen? what part of this surgeopen. same aboutthey your abdomen? what part of this surgeopen. same about they were open. same about the cancen were open. same about the

cancer, cancer . cancer, king charles's cancer. they were open about the diagnosis. tell us diagnosis. they didn't tell us which okay they've said which one. okay they've said what will happen is she what will happen is that she will hospital two will be in hospital for two weeks, will return will be in hospital for two we duties will return will be in hospital for two we duties around will return will be in hospital for two we duties around aprilvill return will be in hospital for two we duties around april the �*eturn will be in hospital for two we duties around april the 17thn to duties around april the 17th after what's after easter. that's what's happening . she released photo. happening. she released a photo. everybody think everybody went for her. i think it's bullying the way it's akin to bullying the way not but the way was not now, but the way she was treated week when that treated a week ago when that photo to on photo came out and she had to on this issued that this program, she issued that grovelling and then put grovelling apology and then put see the end. and started to see at the end. and i started to feel sorry for her. just feel really sorry for her. just leave alone. yes, she's leave her alone. yes, she's a pubuc leave her alone. yes, she's a public figure . yes, she's public figure. yes, she's a royal. but this conspiracy theory is a completely nuts. i mean, she's not dead. she's not in a coma. leave her alone. >> but in this vacuum of decent information, this is where. what's the vacuum, bev? >> what's the vacuum? the vacuum. she's recovering from an operation. she released a photo which was badly edited. where's the vacuum? what more do you want? >> i tell you what. right now, i think i don't really need anything. is what. is anything. this is what. this is what and quite what i'm saying. and i'm quite open to say if i think open to say that if i think i see things differently now, do see things differently now, i do . generation, we were . for her generation, we were

talking , it's very unusual talking about, it's very unusual to have privacy about your body. we're living in a generation now where everybody's very open about i mean, prince about everything. i mean, prince charles came out, king charles came us about his came out and told us about his prostate. intimate prostate. it was very intimate detail and therefore, by comparison, detail comparison, her lack of detail is what has triggered the immense speculation . immense speculation. >> domino surgery. i think that's fairly, fairly detailed , that's fairly, fairly detailed, but i think if it's well, is it it could be no . but do we need it could be no. but do we need to know whether it's gynaecological, gynaecological, whether gastro internal. whether it's gastro internal. but why but why do you to but why but why do you need to know that the word need know that you use the word need and why ever people some i hear what you're saying and i'm very sympathetic. >> but a lot of people, people genuinely love this woman and they are. >> i do and i know about her much iller and they just want reassurance that she's not as ill. i think that's true. >> yeah. i i think that's >> yeah. i mean, i think that's true. mean, the whole thing true. i mean, the whole thing is of know, of the of course, you know, one of the problems having a royal problems of having a royal family you know, family who become, you know, effectively sort of, public figures it and, figures for the sake of it and, and and so and and and so popular and so and so and such global think such global figures. i think it's a hard balance. it's a very hard balance. i

mean, think that the mean, i just think that the photograph such silly, photograph was such a silly, silly it made silly move that it just made everything . it's basically given everything. it's basically given the to do the tabloids a license to do a bit school tabloid bit of old school tabloid journalism, know, which is journalism, you know, which is what as we've journalism, you know, which is what obviously, as we've journalism, you know, which is what obviously, the as we've journalism, you know, which is what obviously, the tabloidsa seen, obviously, the tabloids have down a lot over the have calmed down a lot over the last years, because last few years, partly because they're know, sales they're you know, their sales have partly have declined, but also partly because and partly because of regulation and partly , you things the , you know, things like the princess harry and all princess diana and harry and all of but now this gives them of that. but now this gives them an sort of say, you an excuse to sort of say, you know, a where's on know, do a where's wally on where's kate? >> of course, the >> and also, of course, the photographic were able photographic agencies were able to take the moral high to suddenly take the moral high ground. loved that ground. absolutely loved that because they don't like control being out of hands. being taken out of their hands. >> they don't like to get these photos necessarily photos that haven't necessarily come official photographers come from official photographers that fiddled that have been fiddled around with. they felt it was with. i think they felt it was overdramatic. it was quite violent. know they that violent. i know they used that term, i know, i mean, we use it in journalism, you you in journalism, you know, you killing me. killing a story, you'll kill me. yeah, the it was issued yeah, but the way it was issued in context that i in the context that was when i started to quite started to feel quite uncomfortable. i'm uncomfortable. and i'm being honest, robust. feel honest, i'm quite robust. i feel i feel uncomfortable about i feel uncomfortable now about the of the the situation for the use of the word manipulate, thought was word manipulate, i thought was also because you also very emotive because you

could edited. could have said edited. >> used manipulated. >> other hand, the >> on the other hand, with the original photo they could have ianed an invited in, you know, an official photographer. you know, these are henri paul one these things are henri paul one of from press of the people from the press association gone in, association could have gone in, and from. yeah i mean, and taken it from. yeah i mean, they could have, but he didn't want to have to know. but she's recovering illness. she recovering from illness. but she was for the photo was able to pose for the photo with kids. she clearly with the kids. she clearly didn't do it. i don't quite know how herself how she took the photo herself when she didn't. when she was. she didn't. oh, sorry. it, didn't he? sorry. he took it, didn't he? she she edited and they she she she edited it and they said, what happened said, i think what happened is she look william's she took one look at william's photograph, she took one look at william's phot

concern because people love her, but i think the point. but i think that was the point. she trying to release a nice she was trying to release a nice photo, does on photo, which she always does on mother's kids to mother's day with the kids to reassure look what happened. reassure and look what happened. >> it's when can >> and it's when concern can turns slightly turns into slightly so creepiness, terms creepiness, doesn't it, in terms of people feel of like people feel they have a right to everything about right to know everything about somebody member of somebody and even a member of the does have the royal family does have the right privacy. right right to privacy. yeah. right there. know, role. there. you know, public role. >> without said >> and without her, we've said it without it many times, but without her i don't the of don't know what the future of the family look the royal family would look like. there. she the like. she is there. she is the golden goose that the eggs. golden goose that lays the eggs. she best asset. she she is their best asset. she rockstar the ball. rockstar never drops the ball. >> william and kate >> she. i think william and kate are together. going give you are together. going to give you hope the next lot hope that you know the next lot will be. it will be okay. because you know charles is not is not a well and he's not a is not a well man and he's not a particularly man. particularly young man. >> not 75, is not so old >> he's not 75, is not so old these days, actually he's these days, but actually he's quite an looking 75. he quite an old looking 75. he looks of his age, i think. >> i think he's looking surprisingly >> i think he's looking surp know, y relatives die you know, elderly relatives die from for or be very poorly from die for or be very poorly with cancer. think he's with cancer. and i think he's looking think he's looking okay. i think he's i think probably getting good treatment. >> and with absence of >> and with with the absence of harry meghan if william harry and meghan, if william and kate public kate aren't in the public eye, we long to wait for

we have a long time to wait for charlotte george and louis, charlotte and george and louis, don't step let's don't we, to step up. so let's hope she's okay. right. thank you thoughts you both. keep your thoughts coming this morning. vaiews@gbnews.com. still to come. by these come. were you impacted by these technical meltdowns in supermarkets over the weekends? it systems went down. no one could pay good if you had a chequebook. no shopping deliveries don't take checks anymore. >> but if you had cash they must have lost that million and much more. >> after your morning's news with sophia wenzler. >> thanks, bev. it's 1030. with sophia wenzler. >> thanks, bev. it's1030. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom. your headlines. the prime minister has urged his party to stick to the plan as speculation mounts over a leadership challenge. rishi sunak told backbenchers that the economy is turning a corner and pleaded with them to hold their nerve. he was forced to speak out yesterday as rumours swirled that right wing tories were lining up. penny mordaunt to replace him. meanwhile, rishi sunakis

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than you would in wales or in scotland . and we're cutting scotland. and we're cutting national insurance because we want to end the unfairness that you want to end the unfairness that you pay want to end the unfairness that you pay tax twice on income from work , but income from other work, but income from other sources is only taxed once . sources is only taxed once. that's why our long time ambition is to simplify the system and end the double tax on work by abolishing nics . now, work by abolishing nics. now, we've already made good progress for the self—employed. we've abolished class two nics and cut your main rate by a third, saving a typical self—employed person around £650 a year. and we've cut nics for 29 million workers by around £900. that's a £20 billion tax cut for the british people. but we're not done yet. we'll make more progress towards abolition in the next parliament. now our second step to help small business is to cut red tape . business is to cut red tape. since leaving the eu, we've revoked or reformed more than

2000 eu laws, with 500 more coming this year, delivering more than a billion of savings for businesses and customers . for businesses and customers. but today we can go further. we're announcing a new simplification package expected to save small businesses around £150 million a year. now, take the rules that define who can qualify as a small business. it really matters because if you don't qualify, suddenly you're hit with a load of extra paperwork. but now we get to decide these definitions, not the eu . so we're changing the the eu. so we're changing the rules to ensure that far fewer businesses are hit by these burdens. we're also tackling late payments with strict new rules that mean any company bidding for large government contracts must show that they pay contracts must show that they pay their own invoices within 45 days. and we're also making it easier for you to hire apprentices. apprenticeships benefit young people and the businesses who hire them , but

businesses who hire them, but for smes, the system can be expensive and confusing despite the huge progress. so to ensure the huge progress. soto ensure that funding is available whenever there is demand for apprenticeships , we're apprenticeships, we're increasing the apprenticeship budget by £40 million. and for small businesses, hiring young apprentices, we will now fund the cost of their training in full. this will cut costs for businesses and training providers and support thousands more young people to start an apprentice now, as well as cutting taxes and red tape. our third step is to make it easier to get the finance you need to start, grow or invest in your business. for early stage businesses, we've already made the tax reliefs on investment far more generous. we've deployed hundreds of millions to the regional angels programme for larger companies. we've committed £1.6 billion into growth funds in every region of the country , including £400 the country, including £400 million right here in the midlands , as well as the billion midlands, as well as the billion pound start up loan scheme,

which has helped over 100,000 businesses like castore, started by two brothers and their parents, kitchen in the wirral and now a multi—million pound sportswear company. this is all about the government directly funding. >> so that's the prime minister. he's speaking in warwickshire. this is all about getting his campaign back on economy campaign back on to the economy because the budget sank without trace. well, of course it sank without trace because last week the tory party all week the tory party spent all week talking definitions of talking about definitions of extremism. want people to extremism. if you want people to talk national extremism. if you want people to talk cuts national extremism. if you want people to talk cuts ,iational extremism. if you want people to talk cuts , talk1al extremism. if you want people to talk cuts , talk about it insurance cuts, talk about it every day. every day. that's what blair did. every day. every day. that's what blair did . education, what blair did. education, education, education. say education, education. if you say often enough, they think people will get it. >> and also don't talk about nick's prime minister. >> we're talking about nick's. i hate it when people use acronyms, which people don't always understand. national insurance contribution is fine, but talk about nick's but when you talk about nick's election, you just like election, you just talk like you're your corporate you're talking to your corporate board members. >> really, makes him sound geeky. >> didn't like heart was in >> didn't like his heart was in it, did it? >> and that one of the

>> and that is one of the criticisms. i mean, this criticisms. yeah. i mean, this follows gig sunday follows the tough gig sunday saying they're saying there are two they're going by 250 seats. going to lose by 250 seats. they've about they've got to talk about the economy, economy, economy, the economy, the economy. you when economy. but you know, when the press starts us press conference starts after us all, they'll ask him about penny mordaunt. >> yeah. yeah, right. we've got some was going some views. i was going to read them, time. them, but we ran out of time. don't anywhere.

for good morning. 1040. thank you for joining for good morning. 1040. thank you forjoining us. you've been getting in touch at home. thank you so much about margaret thatcher, who is amongst a group of in the victorian of people in the victorian albert museum and a punch and judy show, and she's ranked alongside osama bin laden and hitler for contemporary baddies, jean says the best prime minister we ever had. she rescued the country. if only she was still here, we would not have all these dreadful problems. how they problems. how dare they desecrate memory , peter says desecrate her memory, peter says it's nonsense it's obvious this nonsense was contrived woke idiots. contrived by weak woke idiots. they hate thatcher. it's a cheap

stunt lot of you saying that jean. another jean, she'd be jean. anotherjean, she'd be turning in her grave . she would turning in her grave. she would not have let this country get as it today . she not have let this country get as it today. she had a not have let this country get as it today . she had a backbone. it is today. she had a backbone. >> but listen to what brian says. thatcher was a villain she still scotland. still hated in scotland. she tried destroy scotland by tried to destroy scotland by shutting down coal, still poll tax moving nuclear subs to tax and moving nuclear subs to devonport from rosyth when there tax and moving nuclear subs to dev

inste.before. estroying what has something worthwhile themselves inste.before. verying what has something worthwhile themselves inste.before. very goodhat has something worthwhile themselves inste.before. very good point.; gone before. very good point. and on princess kate, terry says leave kate alone to get better. bob says for god's sake, leave the royals alone. pat says if so many people care and love about the princess, do the right thing and give her the privacy she requested. okay, we have heard you. >> we've heard you. now we're going to talk about the prime minister it's minister speaking today. it's the mayoral the launch of the mayoral campaign by sadiq khan because the big story is, is the prime minister's job safe? olivia utley, joins now. she's our utley, joins us now. she's our political correspondent. olivia, the prime minister can on the prime minister can witter on as much as he likes about extra money apprenticeships, money for apprenticeships, but the only interest at that speech when he to the press when he talks to the press afterwards will be, is he going to be toppled in a coup by the leader of the commons, penny mordaunt, is who wields mordaunt, who is who wields a ceremonial sword than ceremonial sword better than anybody know ? anybody i know? >> well, very much. that is the question on everyone's lips in westminster at the moment. >> there were all sorts of briefings and counter briefings over the weekend about whether penny mordaunt is ready to usurp

rishi sunak after the may elections and before a general elections and before a general election . now, conservative mps election. now, conservative mps i've spoken to have previously said that the worst thing the party could possibly do would be to replace the prime minister before a general election. the idea that a party can have four prime ministers in pretty much as many years was seen to be a very bad look indeed. now, a few of those mps are beginning to say , well, hang on a minute. say, well, hang on a minute. rishi sunak has managed to sort of steady the ship, but he steadied the ship at the bottom of the ocean. the conservatives are 20 points behind the are 20 points behind in the polls , and that budget a couple polls, and that budget a couple of weeks ago made absolutely no dentin of weeks ago made absolutely no dent in that whatsoever. there was at all. so was no poll bounce at all. so there are mps now whispering actually, perhaps the worst thing we could do would be to stick with rishi sunak. now why penny mordaunt? well, it's no secret that penny mordaunt would like to be prime minister. she was. she put herself forward for the last leadership and the last leadership contest and she in third place. she is she came in third place. she is popular among sent lists in the

conservative party, and she is also beginning to get the backing of some right wing mps to . previously, the right has to. previously, the right has been a bit sceptical about mordaunt because of her stance on trans rights. she stood up at the despatch box and says that trans women are now, trans women are women now, though appear to be coming though they appear to be coming round to her. and also penny mordaunt has almost nothing to lose. based on current polling, she is set to lose her seat at the next election, so there is an argument that, you know, put her up last final roll of the dice and perhaps snatch victory from the jaws of defeat . that from the jaws of defeat. that said, you could end up in a situation where the prime minister and the leader of the conservative party ends up losing their seat in an election which arguably would be an even worse than the situation worse look than the situation that the conservative party is in the so far, in at the moment. so far, publicly, penny mordaunt, everyone around her is saying that it's all nonsense and that rishi lead the party rishi sunak will lead the party into a general election. but of course, that's what they all

say. you can't set much store by those words. >> and olivia, i've written about this in the mail today. people around the people i spoke to around the cabinet said it's very easy for penny can penny mordaunt. she can put a statement saying have statement out saying i have full 100% support prime 100% support in the prime minister. do not give suscribe minister. i do not give suscribe any support to talk any support to this talk of a coup and a plot to unseat him. no sign of that statement so far i >> -- >> no sign of that statement. so far. there are rumours that when she stands up in the commons on thursday, i think it is for questions she will make a statement along those lines. but as you say, andrew, i mean, no signs of that so far. and of course, it really is no secret that penny mordaunt would like to be minister. there to be prime minister. and there are fans around her are plenty of fans around her who would very much like to see her step into that position. that conference speech she made about back, back in about fighting back, back in october really felt like a leadership bid. and until she officially puts those whisperings to rest, perhaps in a statement in the commons this week, they will continue. and perhaps that's what she wants .

perhaps that's what she wants. >> extraordinary. thank you olivia. she does not get my vote. let me tell you i think she's a proper globalist. bill gates girl. like gates fan girl. i don't like her. i don't trust her. i would not for her. not vote for her. >> know if you've read >> i don't know if you've read her book. i've forgotten what it's i it's called, but god, no. i gutted it mail a couple gutted it for the mail a couple of and she's running of years ago and she's running for leadership. god, for the leadership. on my god, it's dem. it's at best lib dem. >> exactly. >> exactly. >> nothing to worry >> there's nothing to worry about it. >> this idea that there are there are right wing >> this idea that there are there of are right wing >> this idea that there are there of the|re right wing >> this idea that there are there of the party ht wing >> this idea that there are there of the party lining] >> this idea that there are there of the party lining up members of the party lining up to back her. that's bit whiffy to back her. that's a bit whiffy to back her. that's a bit whiffy to me . to me. >> they just. why? >> they just. why? >> because they're desperate. >> because they're desperate. >> to rid of >> they just want to get rid of him they think she they him and they think she they think they're lose think they're going to lose a seat. >> @ scale $- >> they think the scale of defeat could be so bad that perhaps that perhaps the only thing that could things having could change things is having a new that new leader. not that one. >> right. up next, us know >> right. up next, let us know your thoughts, also why cash >> right. up next, let us know yo king,>ughts, also why cash >> right. up next, let us know yo king, particularlyilso why cash >> right. up next, let us know yo king, particularly whynhy cash >> right. up next, let us know yo king, particularly why itiy cash >> right. up next, let us know yo king, particularly why it was sh is king, particularly why it was this weekend with britain's newsroom

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to tell you this. sainsbury's tesco's don't tesco's and mcdonald's. i don't go all go to mcdonald's. have all suffered major it meltdowns. customers left fuming customers were left fuming and often it meant they couldn't pay for their shopping unless they had cash . had cash. >> that's right. they've all said they were. they were isolated and technical issues. could that be the case or is something more sinister at play? we're joined now by security consultant . good consultant james ball. good morning it plausible morning james, is it plausible that these were all isolated tech issues, or is there something a little more widespread going on here? >> perfectly plausible that they were isolated tech issues, that someone deployed an update to a system and it broke things. this happens all the time. it's just often not visible. >> but it does seem an extraordinary coincidence . james extraordinary coincidence. james mcdonald's first of all. but then sainsbury's and tesco, probably two of our most famous high street stores, both at the same time. >> so there's different ways that that could happen. it could be three completely unrelated issues . it could be that they've

issues. it could be that they've got the same development companies working on all of their because they their systems, because they won't all of that won't be doing all of that development . and then development in—house. and then a common fault could be deployed to all three without the proper action taken , particularly action being taken, particularly over the weekend when most of the support team will, of the tech support team will, of course, at home on leave. course, be at home on leave. there's all sorts of reasons that this could happen to multiple companies at the same time. and when you're talking about systems at this sort of scale, the smallest of tech faults can cause cascading failures that affect everyone . failures that affect everyone. >> james, can you explain to us in layman's terms what might have happened or whether you know what happened ? know what happened? >> they've not released much in the way of detail, but if you imagine any of those times that you update your computer and it comes back with a blue screen of death, or you update your phone and it crashes, it's that on a much, much larger scale , they're much, much larger scale, they're all running the same software across entire business. they across the entire business. they may be running similar software across the three. those will

depend on different things, but there some overlap . there will be some overlap. anything that breaks one of those dependencies can affect at a massive scale. so instead of just your laptop crashing, it's going to be every single system involved in. in this case, payment processing . payment processing. >> i was going to say how often could this happen again ? could this happen again? >> yes, absolutely. well companies are centralising all of their systems. they're making them more and more efficient , them more and more efficient, which people applaud. but efficiency is resilience . if efficiency is not resilience. if you centralise everything, if you centralise everything, if you put it all in one place, it becomes extremely fragile and any failures have much wider ranging consequences. >> here's the issue, james. you say it makes it more efficient, makes it more efficient to the corporation and the shareholders. it doesn't make it more efficient to the customer, who either doesn't get their delivery shopping or has to stand in a queue or go and get some or buy their some cash, or can't buy their shopping . the public always some cash, or can't buy their shopjing . the public always some cash, or can't buy their shopjin these; public always some cash, or can't buy their shopjin these techylic always some cash, or can't buy their shopjin these tech debatesys some cash, or can't buy their shopjin these tech debates are feels in these tech debates are not put at the centre of these changes.

>> yeah, that's largely right, but one thing is the public do drive for more convenience. so these more efficient systems are more convenient for people . and more convenient for people. and thatis more convenient for people. and that is one of the drivers. but it still makes it more fragile . it still makes it more fragile. it still makes it more of a problem. people need to stop saying, i want to be able to use my card at all of these my loyalty card at all of these different shops. i want to be able use non self—checkout at. >> we don't. >> we don't. >> this is so the data, the data says that people do because that's why these companies are doing it. >> they think they can make more profit that way. i don't have to agree i don't . but agree with this and i don't. but the evidence shows they make more that way. that's more money that way. and that's the driver for them. >> when the data >> so when you say the data shows so this is customers like me and who've been me and andrew who've been apparently questioned on our feelings towards feelings about moving towards a very centralised based very digital, centralised based system. now, i'm guessing that those, those surveys are paid for by the companies who want to find a certain answer. >> i certainly just like every

other opinion poll out there, but the money keeps going up and that's what they're paying attention to. and do you feel, though, james, i know this is your area of specialisation and so you may feel differently to me, but i feel like all of these changes came in so quickly. >> i don't feel we've ever had a discussion british public >> i don't feel we've ever had a distossion british public >> i don't feel we've ever had a disto whether british public >> i don't feel we've ever had a disto whether we british public >> i don't feel we've ever had a disto whether we wanth public >> i don't feel we've ever had a disto whether we want itpublic >> i don't feel we've ever had a disto whether we want it .ublic as to whether we want it. >> we never do with these sorts of changes. they just happen. i mean, seeing again now. mean, we're seeing it again now. we've to the last we've not got used to the last set now we're having deal set and now we're having to deal with transformation with all of the transformation that or rather, that al is bringing, or rather, is forcing on people. >> okay, james ball, we will have back another day. you have you back another day. you did your name. did not live up to your name. that fascinating. did not live up to your name. thai fascinating. did not live up to your name. thai always;cinating. did not live up to your name. thai always go ating. did not live up to your name. thai always go ati|the checkout. >> i always go to the checkout. >> i always go to the checkout. >> know you do. with your >> i know you do. with your chequebook. minute. chequebook. see you in a minute. >> outlook with boxt >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on gb news . news. news. news. >> hi there. welcome to the gb news forecast from the met office . there will be some office. there will be some further rain this week, but for the time being it is dry for many monday with sunny

many this monday with some sunny spells and feeling pleasantly mild in any sunshine . further mild in any sunshine. further fronts are lining up and they will bring some rain in later from the west. but ahead of those fronts , well, there will those fronts, well, there will be some patchy cloud around, even the odd shower across central and eastern parts of the country. but where the cloud breaks up into the afternoon, we will get some sunny spells and it will feel rather pleasant with temperatures up to 17 or 18 celsius in the south—east mid—teens generally elsewhere, but in northern ireland already the rain arrives by the end of the rain arrives by the end of the afternoon, that rain pushing into western scotland, western fringes into wales fringes of england, into wales as well, the wind picking up gales for exposed parts of gales for the exposed parts of western scotland, and that rain pushes through the country overnight, with it tending to fizzle out by the time it gets to east anglia in the southeast. not much rain here. otherwise cloudy, breezy and with those outbreaks of rain, it's going to be a mild start to tuesday. some places ten celsius first thing

and the rain soon enough clears eastwards, replaced by showers into the afternoon. no showers could affect just about anywhere, but most likely across central parts of the uk. away from the showers . still some from the showers. still some warm sunny spells developing and again temperatures up to 15 to 18 celsius by that warm feeling inside from boxt boiler as sponsors of weather on

gb news. >> 11:11 am. gb news. >>11:11 a.m. even on monday, the 18th of march. this is britain's news one gp news with andrew pierce and bev turner. >> thank you very much for joining this morning. joining us this morning. so stick with me. that's the fightback prime fightback message from the prime minister of penny minister with rumours of a penny mordaunt be true, mordaunt takeover can't be true, surely . surely. >> and as we speak, the prime minister is pledging more support for small businesses. he's the west he's on a trip to the west midlands, which course, midlands, which is, of course, a key battleground. key election battleground. >> good news. the

>> and some good news. the princess of wales was spotted, apparently on a visit to her favourite windsor farm shop. where else would it be? looking happy, relaxed and healthy. apparently over the weekend we haven't got any pictures though, and she's contemporary villain. >> that's how the victorian albert museum have described former prime minister margaret thatcher. she's compared thatcher. she's been compared with adolf hitler and osama bin laden. shameful >> and another act of wokery . >> and another act of wokery. brace yourselves staff at lloyds tsb. okay, this is the bank that owns scottish widows. of course, they've now said that they shouldn't use word widows shouldn't use the word widows because upsetting because it triggers upsetting memories. are you a widow? would you object to that being used as a name? let us know a brand name? let us know. >> the scottish widows is just jaw dropping. it's one of the most iconic advertisements. you'll remember it, she sort of

meryl streep thing from french lieutenant's woman, isn't she ? lieutenant's woman, isn't she? yeah.in lieutenant's woman, isn't she? yeah. in the big black cape. it's fantastic. yeah. and yet, apparently the staff at lloyds, which owned bank, the which owned the bank, owned the insurance company. which owned the bank, owned the insurance company . you can't use widows. >> well, did >> well, they did a brainstorming some the brainstorming with some of the members the and members of the staff and a whiteboard with phrases that might to other might be offensive to other people. the other one that i absolutely can't absolutely love is you can't talk using people talk about using people as guinea experimental guinea pigs in an experimental sense, because it might affect the vegans in the room . oh, gb the vegans in the room. oh, gb views a gbnews.com guinea pigs does anybody eat guinea pigs? >> i've got two. >> i've got two. >> i'd quite like to read them most days, frankly. is it a nightmare . they are. yes. in nightmare. they are. yes. in peru they eat guinea pigs, don't they? first of all, peru. here's here's the news with sophia wenzler. >> thanks, bev. good morning. it's 11:02. i'm sofia wenzel >> thanks, bev. good morning. it's11:02. i'm sofia wenzel and the gb newsroom. your top story this hour. the prime minister has urged his party to stick to the plan as speculation mounts over a leadership challenge.

rishi sunak told backbench peers that the economy is turning a corner and pleaded for them to hold their nerve. he was forced to speak out yesterday after rumours suggested right wing tories were lining up penny morden to replace him. business and trade secretary kemi badenoch insists the majority of the conservative party is united. >> one of the things that i think is really important is that we don't let disagreements, which happens across politics, all the time, it's what we do. we have disagreements. that's why you put us in a in a different place to hash it out . different place to hash it out. we should not let disagreements turn into speculation about existential, existential issues of the party. and i think that it's really important that people like me continue to tell the public about the jobs that we are doing and how we are making their lives better, and that's what i'm here to do today. >> meanwhile, the prime minister has announced plans to create 20,000 new apprenticeships as rishi sunak has pledged £60 million over new investment to

cover a series of reforms, including fully funding training for young people and cutting red tape for small businesses. labour says after 14 years of tory economic failure, small firms were finding things harder and harder. but mr sunak says the government is taking action and will pay the full cost of apprenticeships for people aged 21 or under at small firms from the 1st of april. >> apprenticeships benefit young people and the businesses who hire them. but for smes, the system can be expensive and confusing despite the huge progress. so to ensure that progress. soto ensure that funding is available whenever there is demand for apprenticeships , we're apprenticeships, we're increasing the apprenticeship budget by £40 million. and for small businesses, hiring young apprentices, we will now fund the cost of their training in full. this will cut costs for businesses and training providers and support thousands more young people to start an apprentice . apprentice. >> in other news, the defence secretary says vladimir putin is

behaving like a modern day stalin after the russian president won a fifth terms in office. grant shapps has accused putin of stealing the russian election after having opponents imprisoned or murdered. early results last night showed mr putin won nearly 88% of the vote. the victory has been condemned by foreign secretary lord david cameron as neither free nor fair. thousands of people turned up at polling stations in russia and cities across the world to protest over his re—election. the kremlin responded by promising to imprison anyone taking part for up to five years. former kremlin adviser and russian exile valery morozov says there is no viable opposition to putin. >> the problem is that putin is still keeping russia moving, developing or in any case, well, there is no alternative. there is no people who who can, who can, who have ideas, other ideas . you have putin, putin, russia is now, if you compare the

development of russia, for example, or january 20th, 2023 to this january, it is 4.6% development. >> britain's most successful female olympian, dame laura kenny, has announced her retirement from professional cycling. the athlete posted the news on instagram saying it was time to move on. the five time gold medallist had been expected to compete at the paris games this summer , but the 31 year old this summer, but the 31 year old welcomed her second son last year and said spending time at home with her family proving home with her family was proving more important to her, and we could see flying taxis take to the skies in two years under the government's new drone scheme, the department for transport is proposing flying taxis without pilots on board by 2030 as part of its future flight action plan. it says the plan would mean the adoption of technology that was once confined to the realms of science fiction and a state of emergency has been declared in southern iceland after another volcanic eruption

on the reykjanes peninsula. it's the fourth eruption since december and follows weeks of warnings from the met office that magma was accumulating under the ground , making an under the ground, making an eruption likely. the eruption site is near grindavik , a site is near grindavik, a coastal town of 3800 people. about 30 miles southwest of iceland's capital of reykjavik . iceland's capital of reykjavik. and for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen, or go to gb news. com slash alerts. now it's back to andrew and . bev. >> 1107 you're with britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pearson. bev turner. >> so penny mordaunt be the >> so will penny mordaunt be the next minister? that's the next prime minister? that's the talk this week after reports that tory mps want to that right wing tory mps want to oust rishi sunak and replace him with his former leadership rival , now she's very at carrying. >> i'm okay, i keep mocking carrying. >> i'she kay, i keep mocking carrying. >> i'she was i keep mocking carrying. >> i'she was veryyp mocking carrying. >> i'she was very good cking carrying. >> i'she was very good atng this, she was very good at carrying the ceremonial sword at the coronation. was

the king's coronation. it was very was a whole very heavy, but it was a whole houn she very heavy, but it was a whole hour. she wasn't mad enough very heavy, but it was a whole ho have she wasn't mad enough very heavy, but it was a whole ho have a she wasn't mad enough very heavy, but it was a whole ho have a fourth|sn't mad enough very heavy, but it was a whole ho have a fourth leaderad enough very heavy, but it was a whole ho have a fourth leaderad underh to have a fourth leader in under since the last general election. >> , joining us now is >> well, joining us now is former labour adviser mike buckley . good morning former labour adviser mike buckley. good morning mike. well, if you were advising the prime minister this morning, would you be advising him to step aside and let penny mordaunt take that mantle metaphorically and literally speaking in this case into the next election ? next election? >> i mean, there's zero chance of that happening. and rishi sunak this morning and is in the middle of trying to have a relaunch by talking up the economy and making announcements, as you just showed, apprenticeships announcements, as you just showethingsapprenticeships announcements, as you just showethings ofyrenticeships announcements, as you just showethings ofyrenti nature. other things of that nature as well, suspect will make well, which i suspect will make zero to the polls, zero difference to the polls, because all the because as we all know, the polls haven't moved polls haven't really moved significantly truss polls haven't really moved sign primely truss polls haven't really moved sign prime minister. truss polls haven't really moved sign prime minister. theuss polls haven't really moved sign prime minister. the public was prime minister. the public seems to have made up their mind quite a long time ago that they want change of government want a change of government or the that's what's the majority, and that's what's in rishi sunak's mind as move in rishi sunak's mind as we move forward point, noise forward at this point, the noise is off in party. he's is off in his party. he's obviously trying quell those

obviously trying to quell those and obviously this this weekend story penny story has been about penny mordaunt. she of course, has distanced herself those distanced herself from those stories and oddity in all of this is that when penny mordaunt stood for the leadership of the conservative party the year before last, she was doing so by presenting herself as part of the sort of moderate centre of the sort of moderate centre of the conservative party. so the fact you've right wing fact that you've got right wing conservatives her up, conservatives putting her up, clearly without her own knowledge or seemingly without her own knowledge as a potential stalking horse to rishi sunak is odd and think she is seeing odd and i think she is seeing that this is this, you know, this could be from the right wingers in her party and move to make things more difficult for her in the future, than her in the future, rather than rather become rather than easier to become leader the conservative leader of the conservative party. so it's very odd. but no, if i was advising sunak , i if i was advising rishi sunak, i mean, i would just tell him to call general because call a general election because the government. >> and mike, i mean, we talk about people like penny about the people like penny morden in the westminster bubble. is. i've bubble. we know who she is. i've known many years. if you known her for many years. if you took photograph outside took her photograph to outside of this studio in north london or where my family brought in

swindon, or where your part of manchester, where you do you think would anybody know who penny mordaunt is ? penny mordaunt is? >> though? i did see some polling on this, i think over the and the vast the weekend and the vast majority have no majority of the public have no clue in fact, they majority of the public have no clue know in fact, they majority of the public have no clue know who in fact, they majority of the public have no clue know who the fact, they majority of the public have no clue know who the otherhey don't know who the other potential leadership contenders are. like are. so people like kemi badenoch , suella braverman, most badenoch, suella braverman, most of don't know of the public don't really know who these people are, partly because they've been understandably, most people have got more important to do got more important things to do with than worry with their lives than worry about in the cabinet with their lives than worry abthe in the cabinet with their lives than worry abthe shadow in the cabinet with their lives than worry abthe shadow cabinet. cabinet with their lives than worry abthe shadow cabinet. theinet with their lives than worry abthe shadow cabinet. the same or the shadow cabinet. the same is true the labour is true on the labour side. people starmer is people know who keir starmer is and reeves is, but and who rachel reeves is, but beyond isn't that beyond that, there isn't that much in terms much depth of knowledge in terms of players are on of who the key players are on either side, that apathy, either side, that that apathy, really what describing really what you're describing there, mike, that kind of voter disconnect from westminster politics is going to be a huge issue. >> i think, at the next election , who is it going to benefit the most? do you think ? most? do you think? >> i mean, just to say this isn't a new thing, the public tend not an tend to not have an encyclopaedic knowledge of who's who and who in the cabinet, and that hasn't think what has hasn't changed. i think what has changed, is going back a

changed, this is going back a long know, back long time, you know, right back to the, expenses scandal to the, the expenses scandal back in 2009. there's been this inexorable loss of trust in politics. and that's something that all politicians on all sides, certainly need to, to deal with. and if labour does win next election, seems win the next election, it seems likely will to deal likely they will need to deal with. was of course, likely they will need to deal with. a was of course, likely they will need to deal with. a lot was of course, likely they will need to deal with. a lot worse; of course, likely they will need to deal with. a lot worse by course, likely they will need to deal with. a lot worse by theirse, likely they will need to deal with. a lot worse by the fact made a lot worse by the fact that boris johnson was just such an , public an inveterate liar, public record did, you know, record really? did, you know, get a handle on that? and that has been one thing that has pushed, you know, trust. i think, unprecedented lows. but in how will impact in terms of how that will impact the next of who that the next election of who that will seems most will benefit, that seems most likely labour, likely to benefit labour, i would partly because would imagine, partly because you divide in the you look at the divide in the polls, you know, labour is a consistent points ahead and consistent 20 points ahead and if turnout down across the if turnout is down across the board, that surely would board, that that surely would only help labour. >> talking trust now, you >> talking of trust now, you might say, i'm sure you would say that we trust the labour say that we can trust the labour party, can we trust party, but how can we trust anybody wants a anybody that wants to ban a media outlet? the welsh parliament, the senate spent a quarter £1 million of quarter of £1 million of taxpayers money install taxpayers money to install technology, mean technology, which would mean that people couldn't watch gb

news parliament. that news in welsh parliament. that is not the sign of a potential government that would like us to understand all sides, stay with it, what do is we it, because what we can do is we can just play you. >> you missed it, this >> in case you missed it, this is a of michael fabricant, is a clip of michael fabricant, a this issue a tory mp who raised this issue in in the commons last week in the in the commons last week at questions. at welsh questions. >> hon . >> is my right hon. >> is my right hon. >> friend aware that the senate has now decided to ban gb news? what's his policy on that day ? what's his policy on that day? >> well, mr speaker. mr speaker, there may be a there may be a small saving in electricity , by small saving in electricity, by doing that. but i think it's very disappointing that the welsh labour government are preventing a perfectly legitimate viewpoint from being heard members of the senate heard by members of the senate who would do well to listen to people don't always agree people who don't always agree with they say. with everything they say. >> right. he's right, >> quite right. he's right, isn't ? isn't he? >> well, i mean, i think there's a disconnect here. so the welsh government's line on the 223 million they didn't spend 223

million is they didn't spend 223 million is they didn't spend 223 million news, which million to bannau gb news, which would ludicrous. let's face would be ludicrous. let's face it. but they were upgrading their visual system, which their audio visual system, which cost at the same cost 223 million at the same time they bannau gb time as which they bannau gb news just by pressing a button to ban the feed . now, they did to ban the feed. now, they did that, least temporarily , that, at least temporarily, because of the comments that were made last year. i think it was last year, wasn't it? by laurence fox and wootton. laurence fox and dan wootton. >> strength long >> oh, give me strength long time ago. >> oh, give me strength long timoh go. >> oh, give me strength long timoh give me strength. those >> on give me strength. those two presenters aren't here anyway. here anymore anyway. they aren't here anymore at this channel. and the idea that of politicians that a group of politicians would be so upset by the comments of two people on a channel that they would ban a whole output of political debate , is disturbing. >> their line is that those comments as gb news, in fairness, recognised. which is why those those presenters are not there anymore, that those comments were indefensible. and their line is that they want to protect staff and so not protect their staff and so not have them exposed to the potential for that, to be revisited. >> i think the point garth just

don't have to turn can just turn off the channel. >> they don't have to have gb news on in welsh parliament. news on in the welsh parliament. they an they can just watch an alternative channel, although they'd alternative channel, although the there are other points and >> there are other points and this not me to tell gb this is not for me to tell gb news, bosses what to of news, bosses what to do. of course but other is course, but their other point is that is under that gb news is under investigation ofcom investigation by ofcom for another, of other another, for a number of other issues. would seem to me issues. so it would seem to me that if gb news wants to be back on tv and the welsh senate, on the tv and the welsh senate, then it should do what it can to make sure that it's complying with is chilling that kind >> that is so chilling that kind of mindset makes my blood run cold. and if that is a glimpse of an incoming labour government, i think we should all really scared. because government, i think we should all you'rei scared. because government, i think we should all you're effectivelyecause government, i think we should all you're effectively saying government, i think we should althatou're effectively saying government, i think we should althat individuals vely saying government, i think we should althat individuals can't;aying government, i think we should althat individuals can't make is that individuals can't make their own decisions about what they consume, if they do they do consume, and if they do consume it, whether they are influenced . influenced by it. >> in no way am i speaking on behalf of the labour party. i'm giving you my opinion . so. so giving you my opinion. so. so don't this as don't don't take this as anything fair. anything does fair. >> mike. >> does mike. >> does mike. >> you do say >> but might you do say as well just because an organisation is being investigated doesn't mean just because an organisation is bei|done'estigated doesn't mean just because an organisation is bei|done anything doesn't mean just because an organisation is bei|done anything wrong't mean just because an organisation is bei|done anything wrong . mean it's done anything wrong. >> no, no it doesn't. but i

think basically the thinnest line is as long as those that investigation is ongoing, line is as long as those that investigation is ongoing , they investigation is ongoing, they are not going to put gb news back up. >> it was the it was the it was the labour first minister. this was drakeford wasn't it. was mark drakeford wasn't it. the labour first minister. mike, this was drakeford who's this was mark drakeford who's just stood as labour first just stood down as labour first minister, news, who minister, who hates gb news, who hates party showing hates the tory party showing his true political colours. and it's an of power. an abuse of power. >> i mean, i would encourage you to somebody on from the to get somebody on from the welsh rebels who tried to a much clearer opinion than i can. i'm in, i'm in sheffield , i'm not in in, i'm in sheffield, i'm not in wales. i cannot speak for the welsh joanith, you know , you've welsh joanith, you know, you've tried to defend it. i mean, i suggest you do that . suggest you do that. >> it's. i think it's extraordinary. i sorry , go on. extraordinary. i sorry, go on. >> mike, i was just going to say from their perspective , i've from their perspective, i've given the comments that were made by laurence fox, which, as you he's no longer i you say, he's no longer there. i mean, they found mean, fair point. they found that, very , very that, you know, very, very difficult to deal with and they didn't want to have just have their tv didn't want to have just have their gb tv didn't want to have just have their gb news tv didn't want to have just have their gb news is tv didn't want to have just have their gb news is coming tv didn't want to have just have their gb news is coming out. the where gb news is coming out. the speaker do understand that.

speaker i do understand that. and investigations and given the, investigations that are going on, i've been hopefully gb news. well, we'll see if gb news is cleared or not. and at that point the welsh government revisit the government may revisit the decision made at decision that they made at any point, organisation point, every media organisation is being investigated in some shape or form by ofcom , but they shape or form by ofcom, but they haven't done it on the bbc yet. >> well, the bbc subject >> well, the bbc aren't subject to ofcom they are. have to the same ofcom they are. have internal don't internal investigations, don't they? yeah >> i mean one of the things that i think is, know, i think is, you know, set people's backs certainly people's backs up and certainly this something people this is something that people say the fact that say to me is the fact that you've a number of shows say to me is the fact that you'veyou've number of shows say to me is the fact that you'veyou've hadiber of shows say to me is the fact that you'veyou've had aer of shows say to me is the fact that you'veyou've had a conservative where you've had a conservative mp interviewed mp being being interviewed by another conservative mp. there is that is is no sense in which that is impartial , is no sense in which that is impartial, you know, communication that isn't communication and that isn't done so so i done on other channels. so so i mean, again, it's not for me to criticise your television channel, but it may be that you decide you want to do decide you don't want to do things the future. things like that in the future. >> push things. >> yeah, i would push things. >> yeah, i would push things. >> push back that. >> i would push back on that. i think incident think that particular incident was and was when esther mcvey and her husband were interviewing. was it boris johnson? he was interviewing boris davies . interviewing boris davies. anyway, johnson, yeah ,

anyway, boris johnson, and yeah, i think in those situations this channel would take a position on that. but as far as i know and listen, we work here, we strive for balance. we do. we strive while you're here. might like you on my why we love having you, mike. and we are a broad church and we will welcome anyone left at anyone with any left voice at anyone with any left voice at any and take that any time. and we take that responsibility very seriously. >> minister of >> if the new first minister of wales come on, wales would like to come on, we'd speak to any time. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> mike, you can fix it up. >> mike, you can fix it up. >> mike. i would suggest you invite thank so much. >> all right. thank you so much. >> all right. thank you so much. >> you very much >> we will. thank you very much for that's mike for coming on. that's mike buckley, because buckley, interesting. so because the ofcom is investigating, that was reason to close was a good reason to close something down. >> amazing, right, we need to warn you. i'm about to say some triggering words now sit down. weirdos. apparently, that might have upset a lot of you . i have upset a lot of you. i imagine if you're a widow, you probably tougher than that. you won't about at won't be upset about that at all. go anywhere. we'll all. don't go anywhere. we'll explain why that might be offensive. britain's offensive. you're with britain's newsroom

gb news. >> 1120 with britain's newsroom on gb news. with andrew pierce and bev turner. we've got the panel back with us. matthew. lars ex—labour party and emma woolf, course. and woolf, of course. writer and broadcaster. woolf, of course. writer and broadcaster . thatcher. are you broadcaster. thatcher. are you going to defend your mate? >> mate , my mate >> well, my mate, my mate tristram hunt, historian, so, tristram hunt, historian, so, tristram hunt, historian, so, tristram hunt, who is the labour mp and shadow cabinet member and briefly ran for the leadership, he does run does. yeah. there we go. that's why you've got me here to remember the minutia of the labour party. basically, the v&a have got a sort of v&a museum have got a sort of display about punch and judy. so this is a storm in a teacup because i'm going to defend them to this of course you to this extent. of course you are. they've done is are. so what they've done is said that they've are. so what they've done is said people that they've are. so what they've done is said people who they've are. so what they've done is said people who have/e are. so what they've done is said people who have been used listed people who have been used in, punch and puppets as , in, punch and judy puppets as, as the bad guy or the bad person, we should say the contemporary villains, a contemporary villains, a contemporary villains. that's the posh phrase, you see, they're posher than at they're much posher than me at they're much posher than me at the they they

the v&a, so they so they described a contemporary described a list of contemporary villains, osama villains, which included osama bin then bin laden, adolf hitler and then mrs. it's clumsily mrs. thatcher. so it's clumsily phrased thatcher is phrased because mrs. thatcher is obviously way comparable obviously in no way comparable to osama bin laden or adolf hitler, she was very hitler, but she was very controversial. and, you know, you and i, andrew, are old enough to remember when she was, you know, the villain in punch and judy villain in and judy or villain in pantomimes spitting image pantomimes or, in spitting image ever hearing that osama bin laden was in a punch and laden was a prop in a punch and judy. i'm not sure that judy. yeah, i'm not sure that all adult. so think all adult. yeah. so i think they've they've i defend them to they've they've i defend them to the extent that it's legitimate to she was to say that she was controversial and that some people her a people regarded her as a villain. clumsily phrased. people regarded her as a villair. clumsily phrased. people regarded her as a villai wouldn'tnsily phrased. people regarded her as a villai wouldn't have phrased. people regarded her as a villai wouldn't have put|sed. people regarded her as a villai wouldn't have put upi. people regarded her as a villai wouldn't have put up next and i wouldn't have put up next to bin laden. to osama bin laden. >> have a time >> it would have been a time when the baddie, when hitler was the baddie, because when hitler was the baddie, beca|post—war when when hitler was the baddie, beca|post—warwhen would when hitler was the baddie, beca|post—war when would have when hitler was the baddie, becaleeah,var when would have when hitler was the baddie, becaleeah, and/hen would have when hitler was the baddie, becaleeah, and ifan would have when hitler was the baddie, becaleeah, and if you would have when hitler was the baddie, becaleeah, and if you wouloldive been. yeah, and if you watch old black and white films, there are kind you know him. black and white films, there are kinii you know him. black and white films, there are kinii think you know him. black and white films, there are kinii think they] know him. black and white films, there are kinii think they actuallyim. black and white films, there are kinii think they actually have >> i think they actually have seen punch and judy show. >> offended in the same way. then emma, took as he then emma, they took it as he was man. was an evil man. >> yeah, but we just be >> yeah, but can we just be clear, thatcher, whatever >> yeah, but can we just be cleathink thatcher, whatever >> yeah, but can we just be cleathink th politics nhatever >> yeah, but can we just be cleathink th politics was ever you think of her politics was democratically or to put compare her to or to put her alongside mass murderers such as adolf and laden, is

adolf hitler and bin laden, is absolutely ludicrous. >> it's offensive. let's be clear. let's be clear. the v&a get public funding 10 million a yeah get public funding 10 million a year. earth is this? not year. what on earth is this? not enough museums? get out of politics. >> i don't want this . >> i don't want this. >> i don't want this. >> absolutely not. i don't care whether tristram hunt with whether it's tristram hunt with you on this. >> forget the v&a rejected the opportunity to have a display of margaret thatcher's, outfit she wore. >> which which was wrong. they should've done because they were absolutely iconic and if you're absolutely iconic and if you're a design museum, it pure a design museum, it was pure political . it was. you were political. it was. you were saying earlier you asked piers pottinger mrs. pottinger earlier, what did mrs. thatcher the thatcher have? well, one of the things a very clear things she had was a very clear style, of style, which was part of her political personality, and she used remember used that. i mean, you remember the tank that liz the image on the tank that liz truss so i think it's truss recreated? so i think it's ill phrased. i think it's perfectly legitimate that perfectly legitimate to say that mrs. thatcher was a controversial and appeared in a punch and judy. controversial and appeared in a purshe|nd judy. controversial and appeared in a purshe would y. controversial and appeared in a purshe would be absolutely >> she would be absolutely called controversial. >> i would >> exactly. but i would not have put alongside those those put her alongside those those two evil men. >> no. >> no. >> ridiculous, right. >> it's ridiculous, right. should we talk about lloyds bank and that we can't use and the fact that we can't use the before we do, the word widows before we do, let let tell you, we're let me let me tell you, we're reaching peak exasperation. let

me tell what of our me tell you what some of our viewers have said about this. this is lloyds bank had a brainstorming with some millennials, i presume in the office that was no, no, it office that was no, no, no, it was a virtual whiteboard. >> to go into >> they didn't have to go into the it. is that the office for it. is that right? virtual right? yeah. it's a virtual whiteboard it online. >> yeah. >> em- 5 this. barbara has >> listen to this. barbara has said a widow. miss my said i am a widow. i miss my husband than i can say. husband more than i can say. there many things that there are many things that remind no longer remind me he's no longer here. but words scottish but hearing the words scottish widow going to make widow is not going to make me burst into it seems that burst into tears. it seems that every day hear something more every day we hear something more crazy before. crazy than the day before. there's of women in there's lots of women getting in touch, effectively there's lots of women getting in touch, don't effectively there's lots of women getting in touch, don't patronise:tively there's lots of women getting in touch, don't patronise me,ly there's lots of women getting in touch, don't patronise me, i've saying, don't patronise me, i've lost my husband. do you think i'm going to be upset by this word? >> exactly. you've already been through the very worst that life can throw at you. and anyway, i know people who say, well, i've actually the terms actually embraced the terms widow. what i i have widow. that is what i am. i have lost husband. correct. you lost my husband. correct. you know, be a gay know, like people could be a gay divorcee . i mean, there all divorcee. i mean, there were all sorts terms we use. why sorts of terms that we use. why would widow now be would the word widow now be offensive to me? would the word widow now be offeande to me? would the word widow now be offeand ito me? would the word widow now be offeand i think? would the word widow now be offeand i think what you said >> and i think what you said about is about young people is interesting i how interesting because i wonder how many actually

many widows were actually in the group. sort of many widows were actually in the grcyear sort of many widows were actually in the grcyear olds sort of many widows were actually in the grcyear olds wondering sort of many widows were actually in the grcyear olds wondering whatf many widows were actually in the grcyear olds wondering what sort many widows were actually in the grc sort olds wondering what sort many widows were actually in the grc sort ofds wondering what sort many widows were actually in the grc sort ofds wondtheir what sort many widows were actually in the grc sort ofds wondtheir brainsort of, sort of racking their brains on to. >> that's the point i'm making, matthew. these wretched decisions decisions are decisions where decisions are made think this is what? >> well, of course it was in a brainstorming session, but you can't anymore. can't say brainstorming anymore. i'll a involved. >> there's a parent involved. >> there's a parent involved. >> to >> well, you know, you have to say, for epilepsy. you have say, mind for epilepsy. you have to map or thought to say mind map or thought shower. serious. i'm totally shower. not serious. i'm totally serious. banned. shower. not serious. i'm totally seriyeah, banned. shower. not serious. i'm totally seriyeah, thought. shower. not serious. i'm totally seriyeah, thought shower. >> yeah, a thought shower. >> yeah, a thought shower. >> i mean, now shower. >> i mean, now a thought shower. >> i mean, now a thought shower. >> is >> i mean, now a thought shower. >.time is >> i mean, now a thought shower. >.time like is >> i mean, now a thought shower. >.time like spinster is >> i mean, now a thought shower. >.time like spinster which isis a time like spinster which is used , which has been used, which used, which has been used, which some, don't some, some single women don't mind, has been used as mind, but it has been used as sort derogatory to sort of derogatory to women to middle women, spinster, middle aged women, spinster, that kind of thing. what about this has ever been this widow has ever been anything but a description of widow? >> and it's also a technical terms like widow's pension and, is an actual widow, you know, is an actual is the other one the phrase guinea pigs, meaning the first to test out an idea, may not inclusive of vegan not be inclusive of vegan colleagues . colleagues. >> emma. >> emma. >> someone who's pretty much vegan.the >> someone who's pretty much vegan. the phrase guinea pig. i mean, i don't want a guinea pig. >> do you think of dinner ? i

>> do you think of dinner? i mean, is that what they're getting at? yeah. >> i mean, i mean, i mean, look, and actually worries me and actually what worries me about let's be serious about this is let's be serious for second. know, you for a second. you know, we, you know, offensive know, we remember offensive language that was that was, that was that's used in the was that's been used in the past. are rightly past. and there are rightly terms use terms that we do not use anymore. thinking anymore. so actually thinking about totally valid. about language is totally valid. but you get to draft but when you get to the draft stage that, saying stage of saying that, saying somebody, you know, a guinea pig as going to offend as an idea, it's going to offend vegan colleagues, then you're bringing disrepute the very bringing into disrepute the very concept of being careful with language, free to language, and people may free to go it is a delicacy in peru, but >> it is a delicacy in peru, but we don't in peru, there's we don't live in peru, there's exactly . exactly. >> so what exactly what i'm saying that is that it's saying is, is that is that it's sort of it's basically the boy, you boy who cried wolf you know, the boy who cried wolf isn't chilling isn't a more chilling element to this well, actually, this story as well, actually, because a style because this is a guide, a style guide the bank has come up guide that the bank has come up with it you may agree with and it says, you may agree with and it says, you may agree with terms and disagree with some terms and disagree with some terms and disagree witithat's okay. you don't have >> that's okay. you don't have to adopt the alternatives, though. do explore why we recommend doing so and the urgency with which they are suggested that emma is the bit that because that is not

that i hate because that is not giving clear guidelines. and so you've all these youngsters you've got all these youngsters who well, i to do who are like, well, i want to do the right i want to the right thing and i want to say right thing, but they're say the right thing, but they're telling have to . telling me that i don't have to. and so therein lies this awful thought. police i mean without clear. >> oh yeah. >> oh yeah. >> oh yeah. >> oh what you want. >> oh what you want. >> but i find the thought police more chilling than that. i find the thing and the double the double thing and the double speak. looking speak. when we are looking at something. at something. we're looking at a woman being woman and we're being told that's have that's a man. you have to say it's really it's that. that really worries me current culture. is me about our current culture. is thatis me about our current culture. is that is the thought police the sort orwellian thing where sort of orwellian thing where everybody the sense in sort of orwellian thing where evand ody the sense in sort of orwellian thing where evand you're the sense in sort of orwellian thing where evand you're beingthe sense in sort of orwellian thing where evand you're being told ense in sort of orwellian thing where evand you're being told this in sort of orwellian thing where evand you're being told this is it and you're being told this is not case. i've we've got to not the case. i've we've got to defend lloyds. >> this is a statement, of course, and they've said we continually look for ways to enable our colleagues to engage , enable our colleagues to engage, debate and be collaborative. great. the voluntary inclusivity tool is designed to be a self moderated way for colleagues to explore how people may feel about different words and phrases, as is par for the course when crowdsourcing for ideas. course when crowdsourcing for ideas . some course when crowdsourcing for ideas. some are better than but i don't know what i call that.

>> i don't think people crowdsourcing, brainstorming >> i don't think people crowdsoui:ing, brainstorming >> i don't think people crowdsoui:ing, thinkinstorming >> i don't think people crowdsou i :ing, think we orming >> i don't think people crowdsoui:ing, think we have|g garbage. i don't think we have a mass sort of people being referred to as widows. >> i don't think most people in. >> i don't think most people in. >> the other thing is they've said, this come from? said, where does this come from? they've said, where does this come from? th gete said, where does this come from? th get rid the scottish to get rid of the terms scottish widows for the company, for their because been a very their because it's been a very successful and the ads successful campaign and the ads and the ads are very iconic. i've got this image. you know how the know sometimes how the you know how sometimes people, asterisks in people, people an asterisks in the sex because the middle of sex because because blockers, you because email blockers, you know, talking know, even if they're talking innocently about because know, even if they're talking innoceblockerth because know, even if they're talking innoceblockers i've because know, even if they're talking innoce blockers i've got:ause know, even if they're talking innoce blockers i've got this; email blockers i've got this image every every email image now that every every email in lloyds, which has got the words widows, going words scottish widows, is going to because it's now to be blocked because it's now a bad word. >> yeah , it's really disturbing. >> yeah, it's really disturbing. >> yeah, it's really disturbing. >> kc it is because what will happenis >> kc it is because what will happen is this what it does is it divides people? yeah and there'll be people like my young son going into the workplace . son going into the workplace. acas walking on landmines. >> i it's the eggshells >> i know it's the eggshells thing that i hate. >> we're not to be kind and wanting to not upset, do the right thing and not offend anyone. right thing and not offend anyand we have to feel >> and why do we have to feel frightened about talking to other people? mean, guinea

other people? i mean, the guinea pig other people? i mean, the guinea pig it's so pig one is genius and it's so bad genius. so bad it's genius. so >> and it makes you actually want these words all the want to use these words all the more. makes want to use these words all the more.makes angry want to use these words all the more. makes angry about any >> it makes you angry about any kind kind of as matthew said. >> well, we're talking about penny morton when she, she, she once got a rude in once got a rude word in a speech, didn't she? as a bet you're guinea you're going to get guinea pigs in you in every time you can. >> but penny morton >> well, but penny morton of pregnant people fame. >> we just this >> can we just take this conversation level? conversation to another level? i'm sorry , viewers and i'm so sorry, viewers and listeners, this is listeners, but this is thematically this thematically the same. this is thematically the same. this is the the artist is being the this is the artist is being investigated police. the this is the artist is being inv< is igated police. the this is the artist is being inv is outrage outrageous. >> is outrage outrageous. >> and this is where our joking about language becomes. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> and do you know what this woman said on this one story? yes. >> so an artist was chatting to a colleague. she was setting up an exhibition at a museum in watford . she was chatting to a watford. she was chatting to a colleague over cup of tea. colleague over a cup of tea. while up the while she's setting up the exhibition. she exhibition. she said she believed that allowing children and to change and young people to to change change is harmful, change their sex is harmful, which yes, she which i agree with. yes, she she said that the tavistock, the gender identity development service, be shut down, service, should be shut down, which it should be, and we know we back on these

we will look back on these years. it's being closed, we will look back on these years and we do to our and think, what did we do to our children? that, is children? so for that, she is not allowed to her own not allowed to attend her own exhibition giving them exhibition without giving them 24 hours notice. so a woman who's expressing perfectly private, private views about something that i believe is an absolute scandal, she's being sanctioned for that. she's being punished for that. >> she's been banned by the local council, lib dem controlled. >> yes. it's going it's controlled. >> ass. it's going it's controlled. >> a labour|oing it's controlled. >> a labour council. it's controlled. >> a labour council. i it's controlled. >> a labour council. i mean not a labour council. i mean hopefully common sense will prevail because artistic expression you prevail because artistic expreswith you prevail because artistic expreswith it you prevail because artistic expreswith it or you prevail because artistic expreswith it or disagree you prevail because artistic expreswith it or disagree with'ou agree with it or disagree with it, be allowed to it, people should be allowed to express and express their views and then it's start a debate. it it's meant to start a debate. it just seems a hate crime. just seems to be a hate crime. having conversation, don't having a conversation, i don't think. think can have think. i don't think it can have nye and all three of nye bevan and you, all three of us, they're not us, especially if they're not banning arrested. banning it, could be arrested. yeah, not yeah, yeah, yeah. they're not banning the exhibition. they're banning the exhibition. they're banning to exhibition publicity to her exhibition locally in watford. >> suspect flocked >> i suspect watford flocked to the because culture the exhibition because culture is her name. >> it's the idea that you could be saying something to someone about you believe that about what you believe that isn't harmful, but isn't offensive or harmful, but it's. it's a genuine belief. >> the person who snitched on

her, as someone if her, it's as someone reported if somebody happened somebody if this happened in reverse, somebody on the reverse, if somebody on the right to get an artist right tried to get an artist banned, exhibition wasn't, right tried to get an artist ban about exhibition wasn't, right tried to get an artist ban about the, exhibition wasn't, right tried to get an artist ban about the, the|ibition wasn't, right tried to get an artist ban about the, the conflict, asn't, right tried to get an artist ban about the, the conflict, butt, say about the, the conflict, but who'd said something that was, you anti—israeli or you know, anti—israeli or something and right powered something and the right powered on ban them. on to try and ban them. >> would see the left >> then you would see the left would be, oh it's, it's would be, oh no, it's, it's making speech. so i would making free speech. so i would say to people on my side of politics, you've got to allow a thousand bloom. thousand flowers to bloom. you've people to you've got to allow people to get there and get their voice out there and then them on debate. then take them on in debate. if you disagree, appalling. then take them on in debate. if youwell,|ree, appalling. then take them on in debate. if youwell, we, appalling. then take them on in debate. if youwell, we have appalling. then take them on in debate. if youwell, we have t0)alling. then take them on in debate. if youwell, we have to quieten your >> well, we have to quieten your voice now. voice just for now. >> we've move we've voice just for now. >> toi've move we've voice just for now. >> to go move we've voice just for now. >> to go anotherye we've got to go to another break. thank thank thank you emma. thank you matthew. how do matthew. still to come? how do you a problem like gb you solve a problem like gb news? name of news? that was the name of an event hosted by the so—called media coalition, the media reform coalition, the media democracy festival. i'm not gatecrashed not joking. well, we gatecrashed it. that and much more after this sophia this morning's news with sophia wenzler. >> bev. >> bev. >> thank you. it's 1131. >> bev. >> thank you. it's1131. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom. your headlines. the prime minister has urged his party to stick to the plan as speculation mounts over a leadership challenge. rishi

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rishi sunak. but the real question will bite? question is, will they bite? because fundamentally we've seen what is it, the sixth or seventh relaunch this relaunch of rishi sunak. this morning. i'm not sure that this apprenticeship apprenticeships pledge, if even if i could say it is going to be the game changer for rishi sunak, but the question is what will be the sort of crunch point? and it's all looking forward to those. local elections may the second if they if may the 2nd goes as badly as people think . could badly as people think. could there then be a move? and of course it's not just sharks inside the conservative party. there sharks outside the there are sharks outside the conservative party. all this rumour about a return of nigel farage to politics with that report over the weekend suggesting that possibly if he were to lead reform , they could were to lead reform, they could leapfrog the conservatives into second place. >> and rishi sunak's allies warning in the papers, too that, you know, don't oust him .we'll you know, don't oust him. we'll call an election immediately and you could lose your seats. guys so calm down. but he says this is going to be a bounce back yeah

is going to be a bounce back year. see. is going to be a bounce back yeawell, see. is going to be a bounce back yeawell, wassee. is going to be a bounce back yeawell, was intrigued also by >> well, i was intrigued also by the nigel the report about nigel farage suggesting become suggesting he could become a trade president trade envoy for president trump. >> he would like calculation >> so he would like calculation for nigel. >> want to spend the >> does he want to spend the next eight months walking from rainy town to miserable doorstep and trudging the streets to then lead a band of a handful of members of parliament on the backbenches? not having much of a say? or does he want to fly around on air force one? going from the sunny climes of malibu to wherever else? when you put it like that, tom? >> but he does also have to have a show for gb news at 7:00 every night. >> nigel farage not sure he can do that, of course. also he's not leader of reform. >> that is richard that is >> that is richard tice that is that no vacancy. that is there's no vacancy. >> he might say he very >> he might say he might very well that. always well say that. and i always i think richard tice would stand aside. >> do you think yes. aside. >> io you think yes. aside. >> i don't think yes. aside. >> i don't think he yes. aside. >> i don't think he would. >> i don't think he would. >> is a very good >> richard tice is a very good media performer. he's a solid sort presence. there but he sort of presence. there but he just doesn't have the same name recognition as nigel. no, no. >> if you do, no, well, all that

and more . thank you both. we. and more. thank you both. we. it's flying by today, isn't it? that monday feeling with britain's newsroom on gb news.

>> the 38. you're with britain's newsroom gb news andrew pierce and bev turner. >> so how do we solve a problem like gb news? >> that was the name of an event hosted by the so—called media reform sheffield reform coalition at sheffield university. the weekend, university. over the weekend, while our reporter, charlie peters went along despite not getting . getting an invite. >> in fact, he gatecrashed it, and so let's hear and he's here. so let's hear what had to say. here it is. what he had to say. here it is. >> this room is mostly empty, but gb news yesterday beat sky and the bbc in breakfast last week it was britain's number one news channel on at least one day we beat sky news on four other days. >> visor you said. >> visor you said. >> i mean, there's a place for this, this broadcaster. >> there's a place this platform. >> people are tuning in because

they by other they are being ignored by other people . people. >> so that is what gb news do. we don't mind having the difficult conversations. we don't mind having the difficlcharliezrsations. we don't mind having the difficlcharlie peterson. done, charlie peterson. >> you went half empty. >> well , that's the point. i >> well, that's the point. i mean, was mostly empty room mean, it was a mostly empty room and for ideas and the support for these ideas for problem, for solving a problem, even frame our channel as a problem that needs to be solved. >> it just goes to show the audience and the demand that audience and the demand for that perspective, audience and the demand for that perspect quite limited on the ground. >> in my experience, whenever i take people on with this issue and i do it a lot in private and public, tend back down and i do it a lot in private and publi> when i spoke at the end, they askejoin didn't come >> when i spoke at the end, they askejoin the didn't come >> when i spoke at the end, they askejoin the panel?'t come >> when i spoke at the end, they askejoin the panel?'t didn'ty and join the panel? why didn't you were at the you say who you were at the start you know, start instead of, you know, sitting at the back and listening but actually i listening in? but actually i wanted listening in? but actually i waifed listening in? but actually i waif ii listening in? but actually i waif i wasn't there, as if gb as if i wasn't there, as if gb news the room so they news weren't in the room so they could speak honestly freely. could speak honestly and freely. >> they said >> and in doing so they said some things. some rather loopy things. >> mean, of the people on >> i mean, one of the people on the said, bear to the panel said, i can't bear to watch but you're on watch gb news, but you're on a panel solve in panel trying to solve it in another person referred to the

rise and saying rise of far right and saying this fuelling it. i mean, this is fuelling it. i mean, some of the comments we i some of the comments we heard, i mean, another person on the panel that jk rowling panel said that jk rowling was denying holocaust in recent denying the holocaust in recent commentary. really quite loopy stuff, . stuff, really. >> i mean, do you think we put on alternative viewpoints that really pushes the line quite some way? >> i made reference to the >> and i made reference to the fact afterwards when speaking to the of the panellists, that a lot of them shared information them had shared information online. of course, looked online. of course, i looked through social media through all their social media profiles, attended they'd profiles, for i attended. they'd shared information from sources that lacked that certainly lacked impartiality, and i'd say quite a lot of good sourcing for their claims as well. >> they say, why didn't you introduce yourself and join the panel? invite gb panel? why didn't they invite gb news in the first place? >> well, gb news no record >> well, gb news has no record of an invite from management. they reached to they said they reached out to presenters isa and didn't presenters isa and he didn't receive presenters isa and he didn't recyl'dy presenters isa and he didn't recyl'd have hot footed it any >> i'd have hot footed it any excuse to go up north for me, but i think great part of it but i think a great part of it was in to see was just listening in to see what say and challenge was just listening in to see whatclaim. say and challenge that claim. >> and i let all the >> and i also let all the audience speak. >> i to the final >> i wanted to ask the final question, so could question, so i could let everyone speak honestly and

truly. before truly. and the question before me, i'd say, was it wasn't really of a question, more me, i'd say, was it wasn't re.an of a question, more me, i'd say, was it wasn't re.an intervention.uestion, more me, i'd say, was it wasn't re.an intervention. the on, more me, i'd say, was it wasn't re.an intervention. the chaprore of an intervention. the chap said, be honest, a said, let's be honest, this is a fascist news network. is fascist news network. this is fuelling fascism britain. fuelling fascism in britain. >> to that. >> applaud . >> applaud. >> applaud. >> it didn't what did get applause was michael crick saying to shut us saying he wanted to shut us down, he had called for down, that he had called for us to even he is to be shut, even though he is regularly channel. regularly on this channel. >> he was challenged >> indeed. and he was challenged by the hosts. why do you appear on channel? on a channel? >> want take off air? and >> you want to take off air? and he well, it's important to he said, well, it's important to put alternative on put alternative viewpoints on it. whole point, it. well that's the whole point, michael, the whole point. >> explain why he wants >> did he explain why he wants to he was to, in his >> he said it was due to, in his perception , a lack of perception, a lack of impartiality. know, impartiality. but, you know, i've and i think gb i've always said and i think gb news has always said this is a non—bias serious channel which takes issues seriously and goes and speaks to people where they're otherwise not heard and not spoken to, and covers issues that the rest of the media don't want to cover. and so want to cover. and and so much of they raising of what they were raising yesterday just yesterday wasn't just about shutting us down. were shutting us down. those who were more towards were more generous towards us were doing something what i think was a pernicious and a bit a bit more pernicious and a bit

more which was to more dangerous, which was to say that we engages that what we do engages in tropes and conspiracy theories and that kind of language is actually potentially more censorious and more about shutting down than calling shutting us down than calling for any regulator to do anything, because that says that you work is not you can't. your work is not legitimate. it's hateful. that is about who funds is way more about who funds these jokers. >> charlie. do we anything >> charlie. do we know anything about that ? about that? >> well, there's certainly not a lot ground support for lot of ground support for the group. of left group. unlike many of these left wing organisations, wing coalition organisations, they significant funding they do get significant funding from charitable organisations. they do get significant funding fronwill|ritable organisations. they do get significant funding fronwill|ritablheard nisations. they do get significant funding fronwill|ritablheard conservative you will have heard conservative ministers over the years referring to the blob. it's always worth remembering that a lot of these organisations would not exist without significant funding from charities. when it comes to people actually donating and keeping these organisations going, that's not always necessarily how it works and once you take away that source, they kind of fall apart. and as i saw, the room was mostly empty and you know what the people that room and the the people in that room and the people organised people who organised the event are thinking. >> that you at >> they're thinking that you at home know better. they're home don't know better. they're

thinking, , it's insulting thinking, yeah, it's insulting at home listening and watching this channel. don't know what you want to hear and you want to see. that we should not see. and that we should not be here because you stupid. here because you are stupid. that's and that's their conclusion. and that's blood boil. that's what makes my blood boil. charlie. so much. charlie. thank you so much. >> well done for getting in there. >> thank you. charlie. >> thank you. charlie. >> peter, did they frisk you? >> peter, did they frisk you? >> well, they're actually very polite. mean, a bit polite. i mean, they were a bit concerned i was at the end. concerned that i was at the end. i there was some and i think there was some gasps and some i got heckled some shock and i got heckled a bit. but you know, i mean they are polite. >> just good are polite. >> they just good us. are polite. >> they justist good us. are polite. >> they just cowards us. are polite. >> they just cowards come and talk be to talk to us. we will be nice to you i promise. right. to you i promise. right. still to come. out come. kate's been spotted out and about. the princess and about. that's the princess of it be the start of wales. will it be the start of

gb news. >> well, here's some cheery news. the princess of wales. she's been spotted out and about for first time since for the first time since her abdominal she was seen abdominal surgery. she was seen by onlookers, apparently visiting local visiting her favourite local farm shop.

>> we've all got them with her husband, william . no one's got husband, william. no one's got any pictures. or if they have, we're not seeing them. she was described relaxed described looking happy, relaxed and the royal biographer, >> so the royal biographer, ingnd >> so the royal biographer, ingrid seward joins us now. ingrid, morning to you. curious? there are no photographs because we know in this day and age everybody clicks with their everybody clicks away with their phones. i wonder perhaps if there's perhaps been an agreement that, the palace would prefer it if no photographs are published. or they may have even said people on the day, could said to people on the day, could you photographs ? you lay off the photographs? >> i think they're rather careful in that farm shop , careful in that farm shop, certainly, have been certainly, royals have been reported as going there, and there's never been any photos. so i just imagine that the shop themselves , they're quite grand. themselves, they're quite grand. i would think they probably say no photographs , please, and, you no photographs, please, and, you know, that's fair enough. if people are buying produce from them and that's what they ask, i'm guessing, but it them and that's what they ask, i'm guessing , but it sounds them and that's what they ask, i'm guessing, but it sounds a bit like that. >> it might also that they >> it might also be that they have customer, have the type of customer, maybe, would be sufficiently maybe, who would be sufficiently polite and well mannered to not

take photographs with their mobile phones. maybe if she'd popped mobile phones. maybe if she'd popped down the local lidl, it might have slightly might have been slightly different. maybe. ingrid? ingrid, what, what does this tell us, though? you know, i mean, i know there's been all this speculation about the onune this speculation about the online rumours and the funny little memes and the more tragic , desperate stuff. i think underpinning all of that is a genuine concern that she's okay. this is a mum with three young children, and i think the public just want to know that she's all right. do you think we've got any of having kind of any chance of having any kind of confirmation, further confirmation, further confirmation ? confirmation of that? >> i don't think we've got no, i think think the palace have think i think the palace have probably done their bit and didn't work out terribly well. so i don't think we i don't think we need any further confirmation of it. quite honestly . i mean, we think we're honestly. i mean, we think we're going to see her at easter. we may see her, but i think everyone, especially letters, you know, to newspapers like the daily mail, everyone's saying just leave the poor girl alone.

i don't think we need any more information because i think more information because i think more information start all information will just start all the internet thing up again. i think just best left. that would be my advice if i was in charge, which of course i'm not. >> do you think the mistake , >> do you think the mistake, therefore was to capitulate to this clamour , to need to see her this clamour, to need to see her and therefore release that picture on mother's day? maybe they should have just stayed with what they were going to do from the start, is to say, from the start, which is to say, you'll after easter and you'll see her after easter and just with us. just bear with us. >> yes, think that >> yes, but i think that probably kate always does release pictures mother's day release pictures on mother's day , so i think maybe she wanted to do that. i don't suppose she's going to want to do it again in a hurry, but it's not the first time they've released pictures. and thought this and she probably thought this will moment to do it. will be the moment to do it. i mean, lot mothers want to mean, a lot of mothers want to do them with their do that of them with their children , so i think that's children, so i think that's quite understandable. >> i if i was putting money on it, ingrid, i think we might even see a before end of even see a before the end of easter, because we know the

royal always gather royal family always gather for church on sunday, church on easter sunday, the most important day in the christian church . i wouldn't be christian church. i wouldn't be surprised we see with the surprised if we see her with the family , on easter sunday, which family, on easter sunday, which is, of course, next weekend. yeah i agree with you totally. >> i think that that would be the moment she's just got to walk down, from castle to walk down, from the castle to the church. but actually, she could even go in a car and be seen , but i'm sure she wants to seen, but i'm sure she wants to be she'd probably walk be seen. she'd probably walk down with the children, and it would very, very good would be a very, very good moment to do it. if she's up to it. i think they probably leaving the whole thing open. i think rather emotionally think it's rather emotionally she's up to it more than whether physically she's up to it. you know, ingrid, our inbox this morning has full of viewers morning has been full of viewers saying, leave the poor girl alone . alone. >> it very much feels like pubuc >> it very much feels like public opinion now is that we will support the media if they do. no more speculation . do. no more speculation. >> absolutely. i mean, that's what that's what most people are saying. and i mean, i don't i don't follow all the stuff on on

social media, you know, all these strange stories. i don't follow them. and of course, kate and don't follow and william don't follow them ehheh and william don't follow them either, they'd be crazy. either, because they'd be crazy. they're harry, they're not like harry, who looks everything on looks at everything that's on the internet. right. the internet. that's right. i mean, quite take mean, they're quite they take quite a sensible view to it, i think, okay. ingrid. good to see you as always. ingrid seward there. right. we have heard a lot about this morning. rumours that right wing tory mps are plotting rishi sunak plotting to replace rishi sunak with his former leadership rival, the rival, penny mordaunt, while the prime was asked about prime minister was asked about that this morning. here he is. >> look, i'm not interested in westminster politics. >> doesn't matter. what >> it doesn't matter. what matters is the future of our country . and that's what i'm country. and that's what i'm squarely focussed on. that's what i get up every morning, working as hard as i can to dereh working as hard as i can to deliver, it's cutting deliver, whether it's cutting people's taxes, increasing the state pension increasing state pension today, increasing the number of apprenticeships and talking to small businesses, those are the things that matter to people. we've seen to people. and as we've seen over few weeks, our over the last few weeks, our plan working. inflation is plan is working. inflation is coming wages are growing, coming down, wages are growing, the economy is back to growing again and if we stick to this

plan, i can deliver a brighter future for everyone in our country is what doing. country. that is what i'm doing. all are united in all conservatives are united in wanting to deliver brighter wanting to deliver a brighter future and future for our country, and that's why we're cutting people's taxes. £900 for a typical person in work. we're increasing the state pension by £900in increasing the state pension by £900 in just a few weeks. we're in the middle of one of the biggest free biggest expansions of free childcare country childcare that our country scene. we're getting the number of down by a third last of boats down by a third last year illegal migration. year tackling illegal migration. and announcing new numbers and today announcing new numbers of apprenticeships, supporting and today announcing new numbers of appbusinessess, supporting and today announcing new numbers of appbusinesses. supporting and today announcing new numbers of appbusinesses . these rting and today announcing new numbers of appbusinesses . these are; and today announcing new numbers of appbusinesses . these are all small businesses. these are all the things that matter to people and we are absolutely united in delivering for the country on these matters . these important matters. >> i'm not sure his heart's in it. very upbeat, but but the point is, is that the tories i was talking to at the weekend, some of them very senior, nobody's thing nobody's listening any the thing with rishi sunak when he's sort of feeling like he's, he's trying, he's trying so hard he gets even more bouncy and it's like , i will convince you with like, i will convince you with my little bouncy movements. >> home has said, >> well, john at home has said, here the tories here we have the tories desperate the next desperate to win the next

election. got 10 million election. we've got 10 million unemployed willing unemployed people not willing to work and ten, 10 million. it's not think it's not 10 million. i think it's about isn't it, of about 5 million, isn't it, of working willing to working age, not willing to work. he's offer is work. all he's got to offer is 20,000 apprenticeships. and then when they wonder why they're going suffer their worst going to suffer their worst defeat ever. jeff sunak just doesn't get it. he shouts that he's reduced taxes for the british people by £20 billion. what he's done is stole that money from pensioners to pay for tax benefits for the well—off. the sooner gone , the better. >> other point national >> the other point is, national insurance again insurance is coming down again in april, but people are being dragged taxes dragged into higher taxes because they've frozen the allowances, which means more people income tax. people paying higher income tax. they should have cut income tax in that budget. >> a lot of you have been messaging about margaret thatcher saying that she was the best minister ever had. >> can't bring about, though >> we can't bring about, though sadly, it. we will be >> we can't bring about, though sadlytomorrow:. we will be >> we can't bring about, though sadlytomorrow morning. be >> we can't bring about, though sadlytomorrow morning at; >> we can't bring about, though sadlytomorrow morning at 930. back tomorrow morning at 930. that's from britain's that's it from britain's newsroom. up next. good afternoon , britain with and afternoon, britain with tom and emily. tomorrow. emily. see you tomorrow. >> well , today on the program, >> well, today on the program, rishi sunak teeters on the brink with the local elections approaching and another supposed

relaunch attempt today in coventry . what on earth is going coventry. what on earth is going on in the mind of rishi sunak? with those sharks circling? >> yes, the sharks are circling . >> yes, the sharks are circling. but in other news, is rwanda calling the shots when it comes to the rwanda deportation scheme? how many tens of millions, hundreds of millions have we sent to rwanda? and now they are insisting that we slow down settlement scheme. how down the settlement scheme. how many people will actually make it to rwanda? it's back in the lords today. we'll bring you the very the weather. very latest after the weather. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers is sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hi there. welcome to the gb news forecast from the met office . there will be some office. there will be some further rain this week, but for the time it is dry for the time being it is dry for many monday with some sunny many this monday with some sunny spells and feeling pleasantly mild in sunshine . further mild in any sunshine. further fronts are lining up and they will bring some rain in later from the west. but ahead of

those fronts, well, there will be some patchy cloud around. even the odd shower across central and eastern parts of the country. but where the cloud breaks up into the afternoon, we will get some sunny spells and it will feel rather pleasant with temperatures up to 17 or 18 celsius in the south—east. mid teens generally elsewhere . but teens generally elsewhere. but in northern ireland already the rain arrives by the end of the afternoon, that rain pushing into western scotland, western fringes of england, into wales as well, the picking up as well, the wind picking up gales for the exposed of gales for the exposed parts of western scotland . and that rain western scotland. and that rain pushes through the country overnight with it tending to fizzle out by the time it gets to east anglia in the southeast. not much rain here, otherwise. cloudy, and with those cloudy, breezy and with those outbreaks of rain, it's going to be a mild start to tuesday. some places ten celsius first thing and the rain soon enough clears eastwards , replaced by showers eastwards, replaced by showers into the afternoon, though showers could affect just about anywhere, but most likely across central parts of the uk . away

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gb news. >> away . >> away. >> away. >> good afternoon. britain. it's 12:00 on monday, the 18th of march. >> rishi sunak fights for his political life with a speech insisting this will be the year britain bounces back. but with sharks circling , calling for his sharks circling, calling for his head, could many penny mordaunt swap the sword for the crown? >> rwanda deportation flight could get the green light this week, with mps set to vote on the flagship policy. but the rwanda government is reported to want to slow down the resettling scheme, slow down from stationary. but should kigali be

calling the shots? >> and margaret thatcher has been listed as a punch and judy villain alongside wait for it, hitler and osama bin laden in a display hosted by london's prestigious v&a museum , headed prestigious v&a museum, headed up prestigious v&a museum, headed ”p by prestigious v&a museum, headed up by former labour mp tristram hunt , it hunt, it. >> i really want to understand how the rwanda scheme can be slowed down even further . not a slowed down even further. not a single migrant has moved, but but the detail here is, of course, that it's not yet slowed down. rwanda want to have a pause after the first few migrants go? if they ever go rwanda, then are saying hang about. how about we just sort of send a dozen , wait a few months send a dozen, wait a few months and see how they settle in? >> but this just so this irritated me so much. it's not even about whether you're

supportive of the rwanda