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their children know something dodgy happened and then they're met with a rotten culture, including the altering of care plans, the disappearance of crucial documents and complete denials. they lie to you. they appear to have been getting away with industrial scale negligence by covering it up or banking on distraught relatives being too weak to take legal action. but they really get away with it because the nhs is like a religion and people dare not criticise it. you'd be accused of nhs phobia. one trust referred 26 medics to the general medical council for alleged misconduct for trying to speak out no wrongdoing was found. the lucy letby case whistleblowers had to write her a letter of apology. they want to silence staff with fear of losing their jobs. the chances are somebody you know has fallen victim to this. the nhs gets sued once every 40 minutes, according to some reports, in 20 2223 the nhs received 13,551 clinical claims, 99% of claims

against the nhs were successful in reaching some form of settlement . 51% of the claims settlement. 51% of the claims resulted in the payment of damages . the resulted in the payment of damages. the nhs paid out around £26 billion in clinical £2.6 billion in clinical negligence compensation for the penod negligence compensation for the period 2022 to 23. the year before. the nhs paid out 2.4 billion. these are just the people who bother to bring claims. can you imagine how big the problem really is when you include nhs legal costs, it takes it to around 6.6 billion apparently, which is around 3.5% of their annual budget. the annual budget is around £180 billion, and we now have about 2 million people working for the nhs . they cannot keep blaming nhs. they cannot keep blaming everything on being underfunded and understaffed if they're covering up medical negligence , covering up medical negligence, it means the problem doesn't get deau it means the problem doesn't get dealt with and it keeps happening . and that is the fault happening. and that is the fault of the nhs managers, the people who it. they've got the who run it. they've got the money for 837 non—clinical staff

working at english hospitals on the highest paid band, nine contracts, which is between 99,000 and £115,000 a year. these included a hospital chief executive in london earning £226,600 a year, one in bradford on 179 grand. a director of people and transformation in bristol was being paid 100 and 53,500 pounds a year. they've got the money for the £41 million salary costs for people in diversity related jobs. how many nurses would that pay for.7 how many junior doctors.7 they haven't got the time to check whether or not some people working in the nhs are actually qualified. there's an industrial scale qualifications fraud scandal going on. around 700 nurses are reportedly still working despite possibly not being qualified , and they've got being qualified, and they've got the time on their hands to think about making the nhs the world's first carbon neutral health service. they've got time to

consider whether women in labour should be picked up by an electric ambulance that might have to be recharged en route to the hospital, and it's important that that she's given the environmentally friendly pain relief. ironically one of the biggest cover up areas in the nhs maternity care . there are nhs is maternity care. there are nhs is maternity care. there are nhs with a budget of nhs managers with a budget of £180 billion, 2 million members of staff, and they're crying about being understaffed and under—resourced if they spent more time looking after patients instead of finding ways to cover up avoidable deaths, there , up avoidable deaths, there, maybe we'd have a better health service. heads should roll. but let's get the thoughts of my panel right now it is daily express columnist carole malone. ihave express columnist carole malone. i have got trade unionist andy mcdonald and of course the wonderful political editor of the daily express has , well, sam the daily express has, well, sam lister, thank you very much. oh, right. okay. look, carole , i right. okay. look, carole, i mean, this for me is absolutely astonishing. and it does make you wonder whether or not heads will roll here. >> well, they haven't in the >> well, no, they haven't in the past, have they? mean, go all past, have they? i mean, go all the back to two between 2000

the way back to two between 2000 and staffs hospital, and 5 2008, mid staffs hospital, 1200 needlessly 1200 people died needlessly there over a period of three years. >> they said this will never happen again. they said whistleblowers will will not be punished at punished because they were at mid staffs . it's happened two, mid staffs. it's happened two, three, 4 or 5 times since just recently. lucy letby, the nurse , recently. lucy letby, the nurse, consultants had to apologise to a baby killer for daring to question whether she was up to the job or not. it is. it is astonishing, this this new study that's come out by an nhs ombudsman who was retiring shortly, a guy called rod behrens , rod behrens. he's behrens, rod behrens. he's basically saying that this this is of the managers, the is kind of the managers, the bosses of the nhs care more about reputation damage to themselves than they do about themselves than they do about the health and the lives of the patients, which i find absolutely astonishing . and they absolutely astonishing. and they will do anything to cover up. you know, you mentioned some astonishing figures there, billions year for billions every year paid out for medical cock ups and who are making these cock doctors , making these cock ups doctors, consultants, nurses maybe i don't know, but we know the people we're told we cannot

criticise time and time again . criticise time and time again. these are where the cock ups are happening and these people are when, when they go for, for a reprimand, whatever they're nothing happens to them. >> if there were 13,500 complaints brought in 2022, 2023 and 99% of them were deemed to be accurate. okay, it makes you wonder, though, doesn't it? how many more complaints there actually would be and whether or not we do have a fully functional health service and the lengths they'll go to cover things up. >> yeah, mean, it's insane >> yeah, i mean, it's insane that 99% of those complaints were imagine were filled fulfilled. imagine the incidents that went by that weren't about. but, weren't complained about. but, you goes to very weren't complained about. but, you you goes to very weren't complained about. but, you you know, goes to very weren't complained about. but, you you know, you; to very weren't complained about. but, you you know, you look very weren't complained about. but, you you know, you look at very weren't complained about. but, you you know, you look at the' top. you know, you look at the health secretaries over this government, have been six government, there have been six health five health secretaries in five years, six secretaries in years, six health secretaries in five nothing to do. is five years. nothing to do. it is there's mismanagement the top there's mismanagement at the top happening ground. happening on the ground. >> i'm sorry, the budget is >> i'm sorry, but the budget is given the nhs , hhs, are given to the nhs, hhs, who are supposed don't supposed to manage it and don't talk me them being talk to me about them being underfunded. oecd said the underfunded. the oecd said the produce the list of 32 countries last year, and they said of all

the developed countries, the uk has the third best funded health care system in the world. now that's incredible. and we're on a par with somewhere like switzerland, where we give 11.3% of gdp to nhs . of gdp to the nhs. >> i don't think it's incredible, particularly comparable because we've got a pubuc comparable because we've got a public health service, other countries have a private health service. totally it's not service. it's totally it's not just you a question, which just ask you a question, which is it really our health secretary's fault if an nhs manager is telling staff to doctor records? >> so that someone's nan will never be found out exactly what she died on? >> no, not if it's just a one off, not if it's a couple. exactly. that's what i'm saying. if it was just a one off, it wouldn't be their fault. but it's a structural problem. it's a cultural problem. it's a cultural problem. it's a cultural problem. it's a cultural problem. it's a cultlt'al problem. cultural problem. it's a cultlt'al on�*blem. cultural problem. it's a cultlt'al on then. cultural problem. it's a cultlt'al on the ground. do not >> it is on the ground. do not want to be to pay out cash want to be have to pay out cash to grieving relatives for killing hurting killing them, hurting them, causing harm and causing them permanent harm and whistleblowers are threatened with the sack. they're with the with the sack. they're threatened with ruination, their career being but daring career being ruined but daring to report the then who fixes

this, then who fixes it? >> if not, the health secretary, not state for health. >> okay, sam, any of the >> okay, sam, if any of the business was like this, business was run like this, which you know , a whopping which has, you know, a whopping great big budget, huge numbers of staff on and something like 11,000 avoidable deaths year 11,000 avoidable deaths a year and a culture of cover up, people would be absolutely screaming from the rooftops to have this thing ripped root have this thing ripped up. root and reform , wouldn't they? >>i they? >> i think i think that's true, but i think actually it is human nature. in nature. and i think actually in private see private companies, you do see a culture up, culture of covering up, particularly financial particularly in financial companies. being companies. the difference being we taxpayers money we are paying taxpayers money going fund the nhs. we are paying taxpayers money goiithis fund the nhs. we are paying taxpayers money goiithis isrnd the nhs. we are paying taxpayers money goiithis is people's hs. we are paying taxpayers money goiithis is people's lives. it's >> this is people's lives. it's not people's bank accounts. and that the big difference here. that is the big difference here. i think the problem is the nhs is revered in this evangelical way and it makes it untouchable . way and it makes it untouchable. i think that's really a big problem. and i also think the bma, which has become incredibly radicalised, is really causing the nhs big damage. more than a million appointments have been cancelled . that's also doing cancelled. that's also doing massive to patients. massive harm to patients. and while bma has this grip on while the bma has this grip on

the nhs, that's a real problem. >> so makes a really good point about deification of the nhs about the deification of the nhs . for years and years it's been the sacred cow that we dare not criticise for fear, because it sounds like we're being ungrateful to the doctors and nurses who good job and nurses who do a good job and we're but if you don't we're not. but if you don't criticise never criticise something, it's never going you don't going to change if you don't threaten , it's never to threaten it, it's never going to change. every they just change. every year they just say, more money. they've say, we want more money. they've got get billion got they get 168 billion currently service and currently to run a service and it's entirely mismanaged. >> and also, andy, you know , >> and also, andy, you know, i've been out on a couple of the picket lines with the bma and solidarity. >> thank you for that. >> thank you for that. >> well exactly. yeah. not not quite yet. but i think quite not just yet. but i think that comes up is things that never comes up is things like this 40 odd million pound a year budget for people in diversity roles. you've got millions set aside for millions of pounds set aside for people in non—clinical roles. and think how many junior and you think how many junior doctors and how many nurses, how many health workers could many mental health workers could that pay for? i don't think it's the nhs is underfunded necessarily just necessarily. it's just they appear be love with appear to be in love with certain needless fat cats. >> well, in fairness to the bma

and know, the trade and the rcn, you know, the trade union doctors and union that represent doctors and nurses, represent nurses, they don't represent non—clinical that would be non—clinical staff that would be unison or that unison or unite or gmb that other unions . unison or unite or gmb that other unions. if you unison or unite or gmb that other unions . if you look other trade unions. if you look at bma and rcn, they've got their issues to fight, their own issues to fight, they've own, you know, they've got their own, you know, conflicts, deal conflicts, disputes to deal with. and i have to say the bma are considered in the trade union community subpar union community to be subpar trade union. they're a membership body as well as a trade don't trade union. i don't think they're they've they're a radical become they've become become radicalised , >> they've become radicalised, asking for pay rise. they have asking for a pay rise. they have become conditions. become radical conditions. they've is radical that. they've is radical about that. they've is radical about that. they've given a 10% pay they've been given a 10% pay rise and they will not accept that. and are that is, that. and these are that is, that. and these are that is, that it's not just on pay rises. >> it's also on contractual factors. >> these are some of the most highly paid professionals in the country. know, you're country. you know, when you're when of the some when you're also one of the some of highly trained, you of the most highly trained, you get yeah. trained who of the most highly trained, you getwho've yeah. trained who of the most highly trained, you getwho've they've trained who of the most highly trained, you getwho've they've been ed who of the most highly trained, you getwho've they've been helped by who've they've been helped trained by us. >> themselves. they do pay >> well themselves. they do pay £9,000 a year in tax in university fees . you think university fees. you think that's all they do pay university fees. >> that's all they pay. >> that's all they pay. >> fees. they get >> university fees. they get into of thousand pounds >> university fees. they get intdebt. of thousand pounds of debt. >> but more importantly, what's

of debt. >> buimportant)ortantly, what's of debt. >> buimportant)ortantyou vhat's of debt. >> buimportant)ortantyou know, of debt. >> have|portant)ortantyou know, of debt. >> have the tant)ortantyou know, of debt. >> have the worst.tantyou know, of debt. >> have the worst. the(ou know, we have the worst. the nhs has the worst outcomes for the for common in the developed common cancers in the developed world. you know, really common cancers like oesophagus , liver, cancers like oesophagus, liver, kidney, lung. we are way bottom of the list for curing cancer in many cases a fixable thing . and many cases a fixable thing. and for some reason our health service now has fought. and that's not me saying that. that's that's the cancer. >> there's something there's something even something i mean, even more exceptional was exceptional about what was revealed today by the ombudsman, which was about people actually doctoring records or deliberately hiding them. and really, that is a proper full blown cover up. if those allegations are true, i don't see any reason why he would lie about that and then slap it in the guardian and other outlets as well. personally that really is i mean, this is the ombudsman >> i mean, this is the ombudsman saying this, this isn't this isn't a whistleblower themselves. actual themselves. this is the actual ombudsman this. ombudsman who investigates this. this person. so this is a respected person. so he that to be true. and he can take that to be true. and i this is a problem that i think this is a problem that the has had a long time. the nhs has had for a long time. jeremy hunt, when he health jeremy hunt, when he was health

secretary in 2016, announced a whole measures to tackle whole raft of measures to tackle this problem. obviously, yet this problem. and obviously, yet here today , 2024. i mean, here we are today, 2024. i mean, we're still having these problems. culture in the nhs problems. the culture in the nhs is ingrained, but that is the problem you have with an nhs thatis problem you have with an nhs that is the biggest that is the fifth biggest employer world employer in the world and employs million people. employer in the world and employsyou million people. employer in the world and employsyou change illion people. employer in the world and employsyou change that| people. employer in the world and employsyou change that culture? how do you change that culture? i mean, it's almost impossible, particularly when you've got unions and i would say that are radical and resist change. what's what's radical about asking for better pay better asking for better pay and better conditions they've got conditions because they've got a better pay, 3,535% pay rise, a 55% pay rise. seriously, you want people to pay more tax at a time? >> the cost of living crisis to pay >> the cost of living crisis to pay over a period of 11 years. it was over pay, right? can i just answer this? >> and they will not and they will not. and they will not settle. they will not settle. >> will not settle because >> they will not settle because of factors, not of contractual factors, not because enough. of contractual factors, not bec now, enough. of contractual factors, not bec now, what'senough. of contractual factors, not bec now, what's radical is >> now, what's radical is putting lives in danger putting people's lives in danger to go strike. to go on strike. >> like the government >> well, like the government do. >> that's no that's radical. >> that's no that's radical. >> wow. an spokesperson said >> wow. an nhs spokesperson said this absolutely that this is absolutely vital that everyone the nhs everyone working in the nhs

feels they can speak up and that their concerns are acted on. the nhs has updated its freedom to speak and brought in speak up guidance and brought in extra background checks for board members to prevent directors involved in serious mismanagement from joining another nhs organisation. as the ombudsman is aware, there have been major efforts to prioritise patient safety in england and progress in creating a more positive safety culture amongst the workforce , which has led to the workforce, which has led to higher levels of patient safety incident reporting and ever before, and the widespread focus on improvements, including through the new patient safety incident response framework. bit of a mouthful that, isn't it? there we go though. department of and social care of health and social care spokesman it has of spokesman said it has a lot of these. the safety all these. the safety of all patients is vital importance these. the safety of all patiiwe; is vital importance these. the safety of all patiiwe have vital importance these. the safety of all patiiwe have vital significant and we have made significant improvements to strengthen protectionpublishing the first including publishing the first nhs patient safety strategy . nhs patient safety strategy. >> read this report by baroness. >> read this report by baroness. >> i mean, why are you laughing? >> i mean, why are you laughing? >> i've seen what's coming up next. oh, okay. >> all right. >> all right. >> oh is it. well there we go.

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ridiculed for naming margaret thatcher on a list of so—called unpopular figures alongside the likes of adolf hitler and osama bin laden . hitler, of course, bin laden. hitler, of course, murdered 6 million jews on his deranged mission to conquer europe, engineering the holocaust is one of the worst crimes humanity has ever seen . crimes humanity has ever seen. amongst other atrocities, bin laden masterminded the murder of nearly 3000 americans and others on september the 11th, when hijackers flew planes into new york's world trade centres. thatcher, meanwhile , the ladies thatcher, meanwhile, the ladies not for turning . that's just not for turning. that's just evil, isn't it? the v&a museum headed up by ex labour mp tristram hunt. no coincidence there. it's now facing calls to have its public funding axed. but what do you think? is margaret thatcher a hero or a villain? let me know your thoughts. email me gb views at gb news. com tweet me at gb news. and while you're there, make sure you vote in our poll. i'll a

i'll bring you the results in a few short but look who few short minutes. but look who better debate this now than better to debate this now than maggie's former aide, nigel gardiner and author and broadcaster thank broadcaster jenny barnett. thank you much. great to have you you very much. great to have you both on show at nile. i'll both on the show at nile. i'll start with you. your thoughts that margaret thatcher being put on the same pedestal as hitler and laden . and bin laden. >> patrick, thank you for having me on the show today. it's absolutely outrageous what you've just described with the v&a museum. it's an insult. it's absolutely appalling . you absolutely appalling. you basically have woke leftists now in charge, claiming that margaret thatcher is on par with hitler and osama bin laden . and hitler and osama bin laden. and this is an absolute outrage, frankly, the v&a should have its pubuc frankly, the v&a should have its public funding taken away because it's engaging here in political, activity . and this political, activity. and this attack on on margaret thatcher, i think is just, just a huge inqu i think is just, just a huge insult to her memory , she was insult to her memory, she was someone who lived her life for the sake of the british people.

she won three general elections in a row. she turned britain from the sick man of europe into an economic powerhouse. she took on the might of the soviet empire alongside ronald reagan and defeated, the russians. she also , of course, led the also, of course, led the liberation of the falkland islands. so many great achievements, the british people, i think, should be immensely grateful to margaret thatcher for her leadership . for thatcher for her leadership. for her record, she's greatly missed today. >> yeah . i mean, jenny, surely >> yeah. i mean, jenny, surely you'd have to concede that she's i mean, even at worst, critic wouldn't put her on the same bracket as hitler, for goodness sake. >> they are not saying that she is like hitler. they are talking about unrwa popular figures. she was unpopular. there were always two ways to skin a cat. there were those that thought she was wonderful and the second coming, and those who saw a woman after elocution lessons, super seriously pouring scorn on the working class . we've always had

working class. we've always had an issue with our class system , an issue with our class system, but thatcher fuelled the flames of dissent. proud miners, steel workers , proud hard working workers, proud hard working communities. she demonised them all. and of course, she was not like hitler , who was a deranged like hitler, who was a deranged lunatic. but thatcher was cruel and calculating. she was a snob. she broke the unions and she flew in the face of egalitarian zionism. according to thatcher, there was no such thing as society. today, it's legacy. legacy lingers on. it's. i'm all right, jack. all for one and one for one. she was the godmother of division and the vulnerable, limbless in society are fighting. then they had to fight to survive. now they're fighting to survive. now they're fighting to survive. now they're fighting to survive. and you can only look at a society in how they treat their vulnerable. and margaret thatcher couldn't give a monkeys . a monkeys. >> okay, nigel, you're gonna have to defend maggie's honour

here. >> yeah, well, i'll have to, respond to that unhinged rant because it was completely crazy. frankly really? really, one of the craziest things i've heard on tv , tv in years, frankly, on tv, tv in years, frankly, margaret thatcher actually stood up for working class britain's, millions of whom actually voted for, for margaret thatcher in three general elections. she took on actually the frankly, the evils of socialism . and she the evils of socialism. and she fought for the working man. she stood up of course, to the nefarious. she stood up to the nefarious. she stood up to the nefarious trade unions , nefarious trade unions, actually, who were suppressing the workers, frankly , she the workers, frankly, she greatly enhanced living standards across the united kingdom with very good reason. she won three general elections in a row. she didn't lose. she won those elections because the british people rallied around her, and they supported a leader who stood for the british people, who fought for the british people and who really exemplified, i think, what is so

great about about britain , great about about britain, really. and that was margaret, margaret thatcher. okay >> all right. you've got a woke museum here headed up by an ex labour mp, tristram hunt . you labour mp, tristram hunt. you know, sticking margaret thatcher in the same bracket as bin laden. it's all very well and good. you saying there's a nuanced difference there when a lot of people walk through the v&a, they're going to see thatcher same as thatcher in the same bracket as bin laden hitler. they might bin laden and hitler. they might not it as much you, not look into it as much as you, especially people . they're especially young people. they're just going to see her as they're trying to rewrite history. jenny i think not true. i think that's not true. >> i was unpopular for millions and millions of people. if you came from a mining community, nile, and you had no money and you were striking for your rights, you were fighting against a woman that was held up by the state. she won three elections. there was nobody else to stand to do what she did. and she was powerful, but she was careless and she was ruthless,

and she divided our country, divided it so much that you had nottingham miners fighting nottingham miners fighting nottingham miners fighting nottingham miners and you had the police fighting and bashing people's heads with. and you say that it's a rant and that you've never heard anything so stupid. if you look at the working class, they were confused and margaret thatcher rode in and evenin margaret thatcher rode in and even in the end she didn't have support from her own people. she didn't have support from the tory party, and they are using the very puppet that she was used by, si king image. and with that very famous sketch, when she asked, what did she want to have for dinner , she said, i'll have for dinner, she said, i'll have for dinner, she said, i'll have meat. and they said, what do you what the vegetables do you what about the vegetables ? have ? and she said, they'll have what . she was dangerous , right? >> can i respond to that? yeah please. millions upon millions of working class britons voted

for margaret thatcher. there's a reason why she won those three elections in a row. because they supported her, her policies. and she also legacy. she came. she came from a humble . she came came from a humble. she came from a humble background herself, actually . and she was a herself, actually. and she was a greengrocer's daughter. she came from humble background . she did from humble background. she did not come from the elite, classes at all. many of those elites, of course, are condemning margaret thatcher today. and this, this woke attack on on thatcher by, by the v&a is absolutely unacceptable. there should be consequences for this. and why on earth is a conservative government giving any money to this museum? what is engaging in political activism? >> all right, jenny, you to just let the you let the argentine you falkland islands, you have the falkland islands, would listen, let me ask you a >> no. listen, let me ask you a question. do you believe in democracy ? democracy? >> me? well, yes. i mean, you know, we're going to do more rhetorical questions. we're going to do it. >> of course we more >> of course we do more democratic elections. now, that's big that's a big that's a big that's a big achievement. she's a champion.

>> no. if you believe in democracy, then a museum is putting up an exhibition which will have people talking and thinking and millions of working class who she wanted to move up into the higher have the right to engage in political activism on, on the, on the taxpayers dime here. >> that's unacceptable. that's out of order. >> neither do you have the right to dismiss other people's opinions in my opinion, the woman was dangerous and given that she had elocution lessons to make a more acceptable , i to make a more acceptable, i think she was. and her legacy still is lingering. we have a selfish society . we a ruthless selfish society. we a ruthless society, and you don't care . and society, and you don't care. and i do . i do. >> that's bizarre. that's really bizarre . i don't know where bizarre. i don't know where that. we'll leave it there. we'll leave it there. both of you.thank we'll leave it there. both of you. thank you very much. a grave all right. vienna museum spokesman said we are always open feedback from visitors open to feedback from visitors in response to some concerns

around a caption in the punch and judy case of our laughing matters display, telling the story of british satire and comedy, we will review the relevant label text and update the necessary . the wording if necessary. >> look, who do you agree with? as the v&a sparks outrage by naming margaret thatcher on a list of unpopular public figures alongside hitler and osama bin laden? is the former pm a hero . laden? is the former pm a hero. or a villain? peter says the director says she'll always be a hero to me , thatcher said. hero to me, thatcher said. britain. paul says thatcher ruined my local economy and we are still skint because she shut down our industry. if you live somewhere unaffected by her policies, then maybe she'd be a hero , but my neck of the hero, but not in my neck of the woods. there we your woods. well, there we go. your verdict is now 86% of you verdict is now in. 86% of you think that margaret thatcher is a hero, 14% of you think that she's villain . thank you very she's a villain. thank you very much. everybody part in much. everybody who took part in that coming up, an artist that poll coming up, an artist is by for is investigated by police for a hate crime and told that she

can't attend her own exhibition without 24 hours notice. after sharing. get ready everybody , sharing. get ready everybody, her gender views with a council worker , victoria khalife, who worker, victoria khalife, who said the tavistock clinic should be shut down, joins me live to reveal some of the insane treatment that she's had at the hands of watford borough council. but next, massive series of political stories here, they're voting on rwanda as we speak in the commons. kemi badenoch has ordered self—indulgent tory rebels to stop messing around and back the prime minister. and what does london's record population is fuelled by immigration mean? crucially for the rest of the uk, i'm talking about the north west, the midlands , okay? former west, the midlands, okay? former sun editor kelvin mackenzie is unleashed and he's next. i'll

tick. welcome back to patrick christys. tonight. coming up, i am joined by the artist embroiled in a police hate crime investigation after she shared her gender critical views with a council worker. but first, after a weekend of speculation about his future , rishi sunak came out his future, rishi sunak came out all guns blazing. >> today, i'm not interested in all westminster politics. it doesn't matter what matters is, is the future of our country. and as we've seen over the last few weeks, our plan is working . few weeks, our plan is working. >> now. if that sounded familiar, here's a reminder of sunak's favourite phrase. >> so let's stick to the plan that if we stick to the plan, we can deliver a brighter future for everyone. if we stick to our

plan if we stick to the plan and if we stick to the plan, we can make sure that everyone mind that everyone has peace of mind that there's future for there's a brighter future for them their family. but we them and their family. but if we stick to the plan, i know that we'll get there and we'll absolutely get there and deliver for deliver a brighter future for everyone well everyone in our country. well despite mr sunak's pleas, kemi badenoch was forced to pour cold water on rumours that right wing tory mps are plotting to replace him penny mordaunt him with penny mordaunt before the election. the next general election. >> people who are >> well, those people who are going putting these going around putting these things about are being self—indulgent, that people need to stop messing around and get behind the prime minister. >> here some shocking new >> but here is some shocking new regional polling. it's laid bare how badly tories are doing how badly the tories are doing in election battlegrounds in key election battlegrounds like north east, like the north east, where support has to support for labour has surged to a whopping 51, leaving the tories neck with reform tories neck and neck with reform on 17. i'm joined now by the former editor of the sun , kelvin former editor of the sun, kelvin mackenzie. kelvin is rishi sunak, a man walking ? sunak, a dead man walking? >> i'm afraid he is. >> i'm afraid he is. >> but let's just look on the other side. >> one of problems that the >> one of the problems that the conservatives that penny conservatives face is that penny morden, i mean, her name morden, i mean, where her name came i have no idea at

all. >> and not only that, she has a 15,000 majority based on that kind of polling, she's out as well, right? so i don't know who she'll be leading, but she won't be leading the conservatives. she'll be gone . the reality, of she'll be gone. the reality, of course, is that the economy is going to move. it is going to be better. inflation will be down, a pay better. inflation will be down, a pay will be better. taxes through ni will be down. everything will be looking great. even house prices are on the growth . right. that's the on the growth. right. that's good some people. anyway. the on the growth. right. that's good gotyme people. anyway. the on the growth. right. that's good got are people. anyway. the on the growth. right. that's good got a houseyle. anyway. the on the growth. right. that's good got a house butanyway. the on the growth. right. that's good got a house but it yway. the on the growth. right. that's good got a house but it won't you've got a house but it won't do him any good. unfortunately the voters are not listening and actually they actually want to do something rather nasty to somebody. and as it turns out to be sunak, they're going to do it to him. >> okay . and i mean he's >> okay. and i mean he's apparently threatening that if there's 40 letters gone in, i think he needs 53 to have a vote of no confidence. he's apparently saying, well , look, apparently saying, well, look, hey, if you decide to do that, then i'll just an election. then i'll just call an election. yeah, it's going yeah, look, it's not going to happen, a load of idiots, >> there are a load of idiots, right ? in the conservative party right? in the conservative party and parliamentary

and sitting in the parliamentary conservative party right now, they will hang on until the end . they will hang on until the end. theidea they will hang on until the end. the idea that they want to all blow themselves up and assassinate a leader and then kill their own careers. stone dead. no dodi. after all, who would hire a conservative mp anyway ? supposing you were anyway? supposing you were running a business, right? you've got enough snitches and hopeless already on your staff. you need to hire. hire one you don't need to hire. hire one in from the conservative party. they bad shape , i'm afraid. >> okay. now something today. london, a london, which sounded like a london, which sounded like a london centric story, which i don't to do too much don't really like to do too much on show. i on this show. but then i thought, well, actually, hang on a has got a minute, this has got consequences everybody. consequences for everybody. people watching north consequences for everybody. peoplinnatching north consequences for everybody. peoplin the hing north consequences for everybody. peoplin the north north consequences for everybody. peoplin the north west,iorth consequences for everybody. peoplin the north west, inth consequences for everybody. peoplin the north west, in the east, in the north west, in the midlands, astonishing new figures reveal midlands, astonishing new figurlondon's reveal midlands, astonishing new figurlondon's populationyeal midlands, astonishing new figurlondon's population has that london's population has exploded by a massive 10.1 million, the bulk of that million, with the bulk of that increase attributed to migrants arriving from abroad. now it comes just weeks after it emerged that the uk's population could hit 74 million by 2036, again with migration fuelling the surge. now this is a massive problem and we'll have huge

knock on effects going forward, kelvin . this pattern will be kelvin. this pattern will be repeated in towns and cities the length and breadth of the uk. isn't it rapid population fuelled by mass migration? >> well, you wouldn't have to be a genius. anybody from travels over the country to go on the london underground . and you will london underground. and you will see what how big change is the biggest the tube biggest minority on on the tube system right now is anybody who looks me old with, with looks like me old with, with well, a smattering of a smattering of hair. right. it's a massive change. an enormous change this last 20 years started off by blair and it's continued through the boats. it's a, it's a thing and nobody's being a racist. all they're saying is we can't get to see our doctor. we can't put the children into the school we want. there is a reason for this . there is an explosion of people, and it's not an people, and it's not even an explosion of of the explosion of people, of the indigenous either. right? indigenous people either. right? it's less it's like 1.6 and we need 2.2 to continue.

>> one of the reasons why this is such a big problem for everyone else as well, is this will happening in birmingham. will be happening in birmingham. this happening this will be happening in manchester, albeit on a smaller scale, don't scale, but when people who don't have in london for their have to work in london for their specific job, they realise that there's 10.1 specific job, they realise that there's10.1 million specific job, they realise that there's 10.1 million other there's10.1 million other people london, house prices people in london, house prices are up. they then leave as are going up. they then leave as well. spread out well. they then spread out across to other parts of the country. okay, so you end up with places like deal for example, brighton or example, or brighton or whatever, all spills whatever, and it all spills out over there and then end up over there and then they end up in area suffering in their area suffering a massive, population massive, rapid population increase well, indeed increase as well, indeed affecting that affecting the huge rents that you have to pay now or huge amounts of for money a two bedroom terrace in folkestone turns out to be bizarrely expensive. >> so there are constant knock ons, but we don't seem to have. and starmer is not going to supply it. he's going to come up with some crackpot scheme about , with some crackpot scheme about, oh, we'll send them back to somewhere. oh really ? where are somewhere. oh really? where are you going? to send them back to the first thing. the first thing that the migrants do is they arrive, is they throw their

passports into the water. so you don't know where they came from. so this to work? we so how is this going to work? we have a massive political problem, why reform have a massive political pr doing, why reform have a massive political prdoing, and why reform have a massive political pr doing, and that 1y reform have a massive political prdoing, and that1y whym have a massive political prdconservativesi that1y whym have a massive political prdconservatives are atiy whym have a massive political prdconservatives are at 1y doing] well. >> well look on a different >> well look on to a different story now, a different story completely. and calvin, after weeks of wild social weeks and weeks of wild social media speculation, the princess of wales has been sighted on a visit to a farm shop over the weekend. and after almost 24 hours of more speculation, the video proof has finally emerged. i'm going to be talking about this a little bit later on. i think that the palace and the pr gurus have not just failed to protect kate. i think they've dnven protect kate. i think they've driven a massive bus over her. your views ? your views? >> well, i feel desperately sorry for kate. the idea that she has had a very, very serious operation and can't recover in peace because something has gone totally wrong. i ask , your totally wrong. i ask, your viewers to look at this video or this still, which is making its

way around the media right now, and compare it to the what turned out to be a, at its minimum, a photoshop picture of only two weeks ago. right? honestly, kate looks a lot, lot thinner in the picture taken at the farm shop outside windsor than she did in that photoshop. so you have to say to yourself how did this happen? what is the point of having huge comms teams 7 point of having huge comms teams ? what the point of who who ? what is the point of who who is protecting a woman who is not very well? when you have an operation in, i'm guessing at what this is as serious as she has taken. she needs to be really , you know, looked after. exactly. >> and for a lot of people who's saying, oh, you shouldn't even be talking about this, i would just like to point out i did one segment on kate when the initial photoshop scandal was photoshop scandal thing was happening, at that happening, and i left it at that because was looking at this because i was looking at this vacuum was created vacuum that was being created and now singularly and my anger now is singularly focussed people in the focussed on the people in the commons teams in the palace who

have allowed this complete have just allowed this complete dumpster fire of a situation to occur. whilst kate has clearly been very ill, clearly been suffering think it's suffering and i just think it's been absolute shocker . finally. >> okay, the issue is, was it the comms team after all? they're there to serve, right? they're there to serve, right? they're not the principles. or is it? is it slightly higher than that? i cannot believe that the that they would have said do this. i just don't believe that. so i feel desperate for her and anybody who sees this photo. and the problem now there's the conspiracies will never end. we are never going to end. >> let genie's out of the bottles that will not be put back in. and it was because the comms were so bad in my view. but look, i mean, thank you very, very much. that's kelvin mackenzie, who's former mackenzie, who's the former editor right. coming editor of the sun. right. coming up p.m. editor of the sun. right. coming up pm. yes. as we've been up at 10 pm. yes. as we've been talking about video that talking about the video that we've a long time we've all waited a long time to see, princess of see, catherine, the princess of wales, her wales, is filmed leaving her local yesterday, an local farm shop yesterday, an exclusive that puts exclusive clip that finally puts an end to wild, cruel and bizarre conspiracy theories

about her health and even existence. an absolute shocker. but next, an artist is investigated by police for a hate crime and told that she can't attend her own exhibition without 24 hours notice. after sharing her gender views with a council worker. the woman herself, victoria cove, joins me live to explain her draconian treatment in just a few

welcome back. still to come. has the palace failed? the princess of wales. but first, a chilling cancellation attempt against an artist. because they shared mainstream views about children becoming trans and changing their gender. victoria cove says that she was setting up her independently funded art exhibition at watford museum, when she voiced her belief to a council worker that it's harmful to allow kids to change gender. she also criticised the controversial tavistock clinic , controversial tavistock clinic, which is due to be shut down by

the way, later this month. well victoria then received a call from watford telling her from watford council telling her of harassment allegations against and that she needed against her and that she needed to give 24 hours notice to attend her own exhibition. she was also informed the police were investigating her for a hate crime. i mean, come on. hertfordshire police later decided no crime had been committed, while watford borough council that they made the council deny that they made the report. i'm very pleased to say that victoria joins me now. what on earth happened ? on earth happened? >> i don't really know. i don't really know , i set up an really know, i set up an exhibition, i want it, i made it myself. i put it on myself. i was in liaison with the museum , was in liaison with the museum, whilst i was installing it, i went downstairs. i made a cup of tea , and, one of the council tea, and, one of the council workers came in, and i didn't want to freak them out. i said, oh, i'm here. don't be frightened. because it was a bit dark and, it's sort of like tea making facilities are backed against sort of like a wall. and

i sort of casually asked i just sort of casually asked how the family and then i how the family was. and then i got very over. disclosure got a very big over. disclosure letter about, sort of like a personal relative . and at first personal relative. and at first i was quite shocked and i was sort of like, well, it's your family and just left it like that. should we make a cup of tea and, and then it sort of progressed into a bit of a rant about how she was so happy that i was supporting her and their ideas, and that it was really, really good to have a discussion about these things. and, you know, people needed to get their head around it. and i felt like i was being pulled on board to an ideology i couldn't ascribe to the trans ideal. yeah, yeah. and i just said, look, i'm and ijust said, look, i'm really sorry , but because of my really sorry, but because of my faith and because of my training and life experience, i can't i can't support that , and then she can't support that, and then she sort of tried to persuade me a little bit more why? it was a great idea. >> and this was all just unsolicited. you're there? yeah.

sticking some art on a wall. lovely art, by the way. art on the wall and make it a cup of tea. and someone who the tea. and someone who works the council just goes volley, volley, trans volley, volley about the trans stuff then and then stuff and, and then and then after just said your views after you just said your views which sound quite reasonable. >> yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah. >> what happened next. >> what happened next. >> well so. well then , obviously >> well so. well then, obviously i shared my, my views and then, i shared my, my views and then, i said, look, agree to disagree. and they nodded and i thought, okay, it's all right. i'd made them a cup of tea. i said, where are all the tea things? and they were pointing it out for me and then i went upstairs and i finished setting up and, the next morning i got an email saying, could i come in later because there was an event? no, before a certain time, because there was an event. i got to there was an event. so i got to there was an event. so i got to the well within the the museum well within the window, and i was told i wasn't allowed in and i should have had an email telling me i couldn't come in. was well, come in. and i was like, well, i've piece of art i've still got one piece of art and piece to put in. and another piece to put in. and, and the woman was like, well, not coming in. and well, you're not coming in. and this is the woman i'd obviously

spoken the before. and spoken to the day before. and i was well, what can i do? was like, well, what can i do? i need to, i need to set up. and, and she she did and then she did, she did concede she said, look, i'll concede and she said, look, i'll take for and take it in for you. and i thought we were still all right. i realise she that i didn't realise she was that upset about the day. before's conversation. and then the following i had a work following day i had a work cancellation another cancellation from another organisation that was collaborating with the museum. right. but had hired me to do an outreach project for them. okay. and then, and then it just elevated from there where sort of. yeah i got a phone call from watford borough council telling me to get a statement ready because they were reporting you for a hate crime. because they were reporting you for yeahe crime. because they were reporting you for yeah , crime. because they were reporting you for yeah , yeah.. because they were reporting you for yeah , yeah. and where are we >> yeah, yeah. and where are we with hate crime stuff? with the hate crime stuff? >> well , i with the hate crime stuff? >> well, i well, with the hate crime stuff? >> well, i well , everyone's >> well, i well, everyone's saying different things, so now the council is saying they didn't report me for a hate crime, but i've evidence crime, but i've got evidence that says did. and then the that says they did. and then the police they police are saying that they didn't was, a hate didn't think it was, a hate crime, which meant they investigated it. so then

something was activated, i did a subject access request because i was trying to find out what was going on, and at first they were like, we don't have anything. and then they were like, no, we've got something. and was we've got something. and it was just these emails about my just all these emails about my exhibition i was liaising just all these emails about my exhilanother i was liaising just all these emails about my exhilanother member; liaising just all these emails about my exhilanother member ofaising just all these emails about my exhilanother member of staff, with another member of staff, but internal about but no internal dialogue about what process was, but no internal dialogue about wha in process was, but no internal dialogue about wha in banning process was, but no internal dialogue about wha in banning me.process was, but no internal dialogue about wha in banning me. andzss was, but no internal dialogue about wha in banning me. and basically was in banning me. and basically the later phone call about asking me to give 24 hours nofice asking me to give 24 hours notice and or why i got sacked from , yeah, this other from, yeah, this other organisation, just very, very quickly on this. >> now , was your artwork damaged >> now, was your artwork damaged as well? >> yeah, yeah. so the piece i handed over, was actually hung . handed over, was actually hung. it looked like it had been dropped and it was in one piece when i gave it. >> slightly suspicious. >> slightly suspicious. >> yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah. >> well, thank you very much for coming on and sharing your story. and good luck to you. obviously. this is obviously. i mean, this is bonkers, way, and think bonkers, by the way, and i think anyone with, know, a brain anyone with, you know, a brain can that. so thank you can see that. so thank you very much doing you've much for doing what you've done. that was, of course, victoria cove. out to cove. we reached out to both watford borough and watford borough council and watford borough council and watford response. watford museum for a response. we to back loads

we are yet to hear back loads more your way, including more coming your way, including kate finally being videoed after more coming your way, including kat

is going to be a mild start to tuesday, albeit a cloudy and a showery quite, quite a lot showery run. quite, quite a lot of showers i think around during tuesday morning, breaking up into the afternoon to hit and miss downpours is most likely northern and central england seeing those downpours with some brightness. either way and actually feeling warm in any sunny spells. 17 or 18 celsius. but more rain is on the way , but more rain is on the way, spreading up from the southwest on tuesday night and into wednesday , reaching the wednesday, reaching the grampians and persisting through much of the day across eastern and northern england, wales and the midlands. before eventually turning back to showers. further outbreaks of rain to come on thursday, particularly towards the northwest where it will be windy and cool and then showers to on friday. to come on friday. >> looks like things are heating up

gb news. >> it's 10 pm. i'm patrick christys tonight. >> william. how's catherine? >> william. how's catherine? >> princess catherine has been thrown under the bus, and everyone is trying to block us, including the labour party, because they don't have a plan to tackle this problem. >> we do. i am determined to see it through. the deterrent up it through. get the deterrent up and quickly as and running as quickly as possible. has rwanda just blown up migrant plan ? up our migrant plan? >> so instead of all the gimmicks that we've had from rishi sunak and the conservatives, our plan is to get grip . get a grip. >> do you trust labour with our borders also not just because i have the honour of becoming the first black leader in any european country . politicians european country. politicians constantly banging on about race. so are the media. >> he's set to become the only black politician ever to run a european country . european country. >> al fayed day off tomorrow's newspaper front pages with columnist carole malone, trade unionist andy mcdonald and express political editor sam

lister. and do quiz for palestine actually know who they could be marching with? >> we'll be sitting next to a guy who's going to go and penetrate and sodomise another guy tonight, and you're gonna you're gonna expect a lot to give you. victory. >> get ready britain. here we go our future queen has been thrown under the bus . under the bus. next. >> patrick. thank you. i'm polly middlehurst in the gb newsroom and the top story tonight. well, mps have been voting in the house of commons tonight on the government's flagship rwanda bill. and the ten separate amendments to it suggested by the house of lords. we know the first nine amendments have been rejected, one of which was

designed to ensure the bill complied with domestic and international law. the controversial legislation aims to deter illegal migrants from coming to the uk in small boats by deporting them to rwanda, downing street says the initial cohort of people is now being contacted , with the prime contacted, with the prime minister still determined to see the first plane departing later this spring. earlier on today, the shadow home secretary, yvette cooper, spoke to gp news and she said labour would get a grip on the issue. >> we need to strengthen our border security and fix the chaos in the asylum system because under the conservatives we've really seen criminal gangs take hold along the channel and then this huge soaring backlog with asylum hotel use that is costing the taxpayer billions. so instead of all the gimmicks that we've had from rishi sunak and the conservatives, our plan is to get a grip that starts with the new cross border police to go after the criminal gangs to go after the criminal gangs to smash the gang networks and

prevent boats arriving on the french coast in the first place. >> yvette cooper, speaking to gp news earlier on today. well, the prime minister was busy announcing plans to create 20,000 new apprenticeships today. he was on a visit to the west midlands. he pledged £60 million worth of new investments to cover fully funded training for young people and a reduction in red tape for small businesses who accept them. mr sunak says the full cost of apprenticeships will be offered to applicants aged under 21 at small firms from april first. now, nine police officers have been recognised for their bravery, risking their lives rescuing residents from a fire in windsor in berkshire. take a look. >> go back, move back from it now. move back. move that way. move that way. >> if you're listening on radio, we're watching thames valley police body cam footage of that incident which happened at a mobile home park in 2021. emergency crews were responding to an explosion in one of those

homes, and it then set itself on fire. one of the officers who took part in the rescue said it was the first time he'd had a chance to look back at the video and properly reflect on just how close and his colleagues came close he and his colleagues came to death. he said the selfless act was the time driven by act was at the time driven by pure instinct. act was at the time driven by pure instinct . and finally, pure instinct. and finally, britain's most successful female olympian, dame laura kenny, has announced her retirement from professional cycling. the athlete posted the news on her instagram page, saying it was time to move on the five time gold medallist had been expected to compete at the paris games this summer, but the 31 year old welcomed her second son last year and said spending time at home with him and her family was proving more important to her at the moment. for the latest stories to sign up to gb news alerts, scan the qr code on your screen. right now or go to gb news .com/ alerts .

news .com/ alerts. >> whoever is doing pr for the palace is, in my opinion , palace is, in my opinion, throwing william and kate to the wolves. our future queen has been laid up with what is clearly a very serious health issue. she's been out of action when that happens. this is vital that the people doing your media are at their best and they've dnven are at their best and they've driven a bus over. it's shocking. the latest thing today is this mysterious appearance at a farm shop over the weekend. look, let's just think about this, okay? there is an absolute onslaught of vile speculation on social media. foreign press are running some hideous news pieces about disgusting rumours and speculation. everyone's asking, where's kate ? the palace pr where's kate? the palace pr machine knows all of this. who in their right mind thought it was a good idea to allow a story about her being seen in a farm shop with unnamed witnesses? no photographic evidence. it was a picture story originally without a picture or any real evidence, until recently. that is until very recently. that is when a video emerged which is featured on tomorrow's sun front

page.the featured on tomorrow's sun front page. the picture of it is at least . the fact is, though, that least. the fact is, though, that in that 24 hour vacuum left by the palace, even more conspiracy theories were fuelled and the video appears to be filmed on a camera phone and sold to the highest bidder. they are not in control of that story. it's amateur hour. who thought it was amateur hour. who thought it was a good idea in this day and age to put out a photoshop picture of her on mother's day, not her, and then let that percolate in the aether for 24 hours or so with news agencies and everyone slagging them off before letting kate take the blame for it in their statement, who thought it was a good idea for william to be pictured in the back of a car with someone who may or may not look a bit like kate? just after that picture went look a bit like kate? just after that worldwide picture went look a bit like kate? just after that worldwide .icture went look a bit like kate? just after that worldwide . anda went look a bit like kate? just after that worldwide . and whatt look a bit like kate? just after that worldwide . and what did viral worldwide. and what did that do to fuel all the speculation , the rumour, the speculation, the rumour, the horrible stuff online? who thinks it's a good idea for prince william to be put in situations where he's having to keep walking past people who shout, where's kate? it's

catherine, all right at him like this . this. >> william, how's . catherine? >> william, how's. catherine? >> william, how's. catherine? >> so then when he ignores them, which obviously is well within his rights to do, and he walks on, that becomes a story. and it fuels it all again. oh, what's he hiding from us? who on earth allowed the ministry of defence to kate will be to publish that? kate will be making appearance at making an appearance at the trooping ceremony trooping the colour ceremony in june, only for them have to june, only for them to have to retract why let them put retract it. why let them put something out knowing that would be news, and then be massive news, and then retract it, which then becomes even bigger news. and now they've even allowed there to be a situation where the world's media is speculating there's some kind of imminent statement coming from the palace about her health and whereabouts . it's health and whereabouts. it's from top to bottom. this has been a pr disaster inflicted upon our unwell future queen by a no doubt incredibly well paid media team. it really is saying something when you let meghan and harry win the pr war.

everything in britain feels like it's falling apart. everywhere you look, the fabric of our society and way of life is being torn to shreds . it society and way of life is being torn to shreds. it is no exaggeration to say that a future with william and kate on the throne is something that gives a lot of people, a lot of hope joy. the palace's pr hope and joy. the palace's pr team offered the kind of team has offered the kind of absolute bonfire of tripe now to be circulated completely lost control of the british press, completely lost control of the world's press and social media. they have unleashed a genie out of the bottle that will probably never go back in. william and kate are good for britain. they are very good for britain . are very good for britain. they're pr gurus have damaged them and they have damaged britain. our king has cancer. our future queen is clearly very unwell. there are kids involved here as well who also happen to be in line to the throne, as well as, of course, being human beings who will one day when they're old enough, look back at

all this and see all of this all of this and see all of this stuff. kate is in her hour of need, and whoever has been doing the pr could not made the pr could not have made a bigger mess of it. they've let the family down and the royal family down and they've let britain down. let's get thoughts of my get the thoughts now of my panel get the thoughts now of my panel. i am joined this evening by daily express columnist carole malone. i also have trade unionist andy mcdonald, and i have the political editor of the daily express , sam lister. daily express, sam lister. carole, i will start with you when the dust settles on all of this, i seriously hope that there are incredibly strong words had with this. absolutely you know, ham fisted pr team. >> it's been a disaster from start to finish. you know, when king charles was ill, the statements that were released about him were a were they're a masterclass of brevity in the fact that they contained all the relevant information. we were told he had a prostate problem. we were told he then had cancer. we were told he then had cancer. we were told treatment he we were told he then had cancer. we 'getting.i treatment he we were told he then had cancer. we 'getting. there treatment he we were told he then had cancer. we 'getting. there was tment he we were told he then had cancer. we 'getting. there was no ant he we were told he then had cancer. we 'getting. there was no way|e was getting. there was no way for trolls after that. for the trolls to go after that. we what was wrong with him.

we knew what was wrong with him. this know, when this has been, you know, when the statement was made the initial statement was made about 41 year old, about this 41 year old, seemingly healthy young woman having , an operation having something, an operation that was going to keep her off work for three months, it a work for three months, it was a body to blow the entire nation. we god, what can it be? body to blow the entire nation. we know, god, what can it be? body to blow the entire nation. we know, god us hat can it be? body to blow the entire nation. we know, god us as can it be? body to blow the entire nation. we know, god us as women, e? you know, all of us as women, probably who women probably guys who but women certainly have been saying, what could it have been? what could we about it all the time we talk about it all the time and, and think this, you and, and i just think this, you know, i was reading today that both been are both her and wills have been are said have been badly shaken both her and wills have been are saiwhat'sve been badly shaken both her and wills have been are saiwhat's happenedadly shaken both her and wills have been are saiwhat's happened on' shaken both her and wills have been are saiwhat's happened on twitter] by what's happened on twitter about trolls, the about the trolls, about the speculation, who people. speculation, who pr people. it's their job to put that speculation to rest and they have failed miserably. there was a reason why. >> look, when the initial photoshop thing all blew up, obviously we did a segment on it on this show. every news on this show. every single news channel it. and then i channel ever did it. and then i left after that. and then now left it after that. and then now today got a video that's today we've got a video that's come it feels today we've got a video that's corthough it feels today we've got a video that's corthough hopefully it feels today we've got a video that's corthough hopefully everybody as though hopefully everybody can on from all of this can move on from all of this kind whack job conspiracy kind of whack job conspiracy theory is i've theory stuff, which is why i've opened with at 10:00. opened up with it now at 10:00. icannot opened up with it now at 10:00. i cannot believe , andy, the way i cannot believe, andy, the way that been to that this has been allowed to play that this has been allowed to

play it a lesson in how play out. it is a lesson in how not to do some pr. and this is the family we're talking the royal family we're talking about it affects britain. >> yeah, think you know, even >> yeah, i think you know, even i with carol. you know, i agree with carol. you know, not often do i say that. but you know the king charles statements, you know , he was statements, you know, he was going prostate examination going for prostate examination than an operation and he had cancer and it everyone knows what's king charles. what's what with king charles. everyone to a level of everyone knows to a level of detail that's appropriate. what's kate ? it's what's happened with kate? it's she's had an abdomen surgery and then go away then she's going to go away until april. and kind of that's still quite long time . it was still quite a long time. it was confirmed that she'd come back to duties april. to work in duties in april. >> what just said there was >> what you just said there was key a level of detail that was that appropriate. that is appropriate. and i think that's important that is appropriate. and i think that's whatever important that is appropriate. and i think that's whatever she's)rtant that is appropriate. and i think that's whatever she's)rtandone because whatever she's had done at we as you know, as at my we as women, you know, as at my we as women, you know, as a i feel sorry for her. a woman, i feel sorry for her. she might had done she might have had done something very something that was very personal, very intimate, very embarrassing. to embarrassing. we don't want to know and outs. we want know the ins and outs. we want to know basically, she's to know basically, that she's going that's going to be okay. that's that's basic. want every cough going to be okay. that's that's basi spit. want every cough and spit. >> everything was all right. you had announcement had your initial announcement and vacuum of and there was a vacuum of information there. and then there some, you know, there was some, you know,

pictures that may or may not have in a car. then have been her in a car. then there was the photoshop stuff. then that then they didn't respond to that particularly then particularly quickly. and then frankly , it looked though, frankly, it looked as though, you has taken the you know, kate has taken the fall whatever numpty decided you know, kate has taken the faldo whatever numpty decided you know, kate has taken the faldo that. itever numpty decided you know, kate has taken the faldo that. and r numpty decided you know, kate has taken the faldo that. and then1pty decided you know, kate has taken the faldo that. and then1pty cnow,ed to do that. and then even now, when at this farm shop when you look at this farm shop thing. so the sun this thing. so the sun had this yesterday, okay. and they were running there. and then running it out there. and then it essentially picture it was essentially a picture story picture or any story without a picture or any evidence. think again, there's evidence. i think again, there's no from the away no comment from the passed away that it all. again, that just fuels it all. again, who is running this circus? >> this has been an omnichannel shambles. even you can get my words out. and i think right from the start, i mean, actually, i think the initial statement fine . the initial statement was fine. the initial statement was fine. the initial statement clear will statement was clear she will be off for amount of time. off for this amount of time. she'll be in hospital for a certain amount of time. then she will off and we won't see will be off and we won't see her. okay. people that. her. okay. people accepted that. people were obviously very cunous curious people talked about it a lot, accepted lot, but people accepted that. now, the photo was now, once the photo was doctored, that that blew everything up. and from that point onwards, it's very hard to regain control . and what they regain control. and what they have done since then is make a

series of mistakes. this farm shop visit, i don't think actually allays any kind of concerns about kate's health. i think you've got more conspiracy theories tonight. you only have to look on on social media tonight. it's fuelled a whole wave more of conspiracy theories. think the problem theories. i think the problem is you've the palace a press you've got in the palace a press operation that is for an analogue age . they do not analogue age. they do not fundamentally understand how to deal with the internet . deal with the internet. >> there's no excuse for it, you know, because because it is reputational damage for britain as well. and are kids as well. and there are kids involved well with her. involved here as well with her. and find this find this and i find this i find this astonishing people can be astonishing that people can be that job. that bad at their job. >> but is interesting as >> but what is interesting as well said this last week well is you said this last week that overwhelmingly the public are yeah, they're are on kate side. yeah, they're saying want to know. saying they don't want to know. i a piece last week for my i wrote a piece last week for my newspaper, express. after newspaper, the express. after this i been attacked. newspaper, the express. after this still i been attacked. newspaper, the express. after this still i'm been attacked. newspaper, the express. after this still i'm getting attacked. newspaper, the express. after this still i'm getting attackedi. i'm still i'm getting attacked tonight i'm still i'm getting attacked toni know. okay. she's got you know. yes. okay. she's got she's entitled to a private life, but she's the future queen. a queen in waiting. queen. she's a queen in waiting. and such, you know, we and as such, we, you know, we need know what's happening need to know what's happening with her. and we're not hearing anything. we're making

anything. and so we're making not i mean, generally, the not we. i mean, generally, the world making out that she's world is making out that she's actually much more ill than she maybe that's what they have maybe is. that's what they have to put pay to i think sorry. to put pay to and i think sorry. >> go on. no. go i'm just >> go on. no. go on. i'm just going although going to say, although people definitely are people are on people. sides, the readers people. kate sides, the readers of papen people. kate sides, the readers of paper, know, of our paper, as you know, really very are getting really very much are getting your very much on her your view is very much on her side. people still are side. but people still are reading these stories and people are watching these are still watching these discussions people discussions because people actually do to know. actually do want to know. >> just think the idea that >> i just think the idea that she's from whatever >> i just think the idea that she':she's from whatever >> i just think the idea that she':she's recovering whatever >> i just think the idea that she':she's recovering from :ever it is she's recovering from and then got, know, people then she's got, you know, people whose is just whose responsibility is to just run on this and make sure run the pr on this and make sure everything's and will everything's okay. and she will be aware of all of the be acutely aware of all of the filth that's been put out there. and just think, how earth and you just think, how on earth could people could people do that? final word on that? so just a final word on that. yeah. >> i mean, know, she's >> i mean, you know, she's recovering an operation. recovering from an operation. the you want is the last thing that you want is this onslaught that her this internet onslaught that her pr allowed. just pr team have allowed. it's just baffling been baffling that they've been allowed with allowed to get away with it. >> yesterday, >> and that photo yesterday, she did look. doesn't look. did not look. she doesn't look. >> doesn't look like kate. >> she doesn't look like kate. >> she doesn't look like kate. >> think she'd been >> i don't think she'd have been out at this, farm shop if out at this, this farm shop if it have been all gone. so

it hadn't have been all gone. so badly now they're badly so far. now they're completely the tail. you completely chasing the tail. you end situation where end up with a situation where a story out. it's there for story comes out. it's there for 24 hours. this is after all of the rubbish that we've had, right? comes out, someone's filmed on looks filmed it on a on what looks like a mobile phone, sold it to an rag and each who is an american rag and each who is running the show anyway. all right, well, look, thank you very that start. look, very much for that start. look, coming a british muller says coming up, a british muller says that allah isn't giving palestine victory because there are too many gay people at the london marches. so where are queers for palestine now? more of that on tomorrow's newspaper front pages here shortly. but next, the government will start identifying migrants to be sent to . but politicians there to rwanda. but politicians there demand a two month pause after the first flights take off in may. are we just flogging a dead horse? have the rwandan government actually just kiboshed and what would government actually just kibosh

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gb news. welcome back to patrick christys. tonight look, there is a massive night of news taking place. literally right now, all around us. because after voting tonight, mps have overturned all ten of the house of lords amendments to the rwanda bill so thatis amendments to the rwanda bill so that is just landed. these were

said to be attempts to water down the legislation. so here's the second of ten amendments being rejected. earlier this evening . evening. >> question is that this house disagrees with the lords in their amendment two, of their amendment two, as many of their amendment two, as many of their opinions say, i country no, no division , clear the lobby. >> so this is what prime minister rishi sunak had to say a little earlier today. >> everyone is trying to block us, including the labour party, because they don't have a plan to tackle this problem. we do. i am determined to it through , am determined to see it through, get deterrent up and running am determined to see it through, ge'quicklyterrent up and running am determined to see it through, ge'quickly as'ent up and running am determined to see it through, ge'quickly as possible.|d running am determined to see it through, ge'quickly as possible. so unning am determined to see it through, ge'quickly as possible. so the ng as quickly as possible. so the safety of rwanda bill will now return to the house of lords. >> it could become law before the week as rishi the end of the week as rishi sunak races to flights sunak races to get the flights in the this spring. though in the air this spring. though the has now begun the government has now begun identifying initial cohort identifying the initial cohort of who will be of illegal migrants who will be sent to rwanda. but the times today has reported that the kigali government are demanding a two month pause after the first migrant arrivals because they only confirmed accommodation for 200 people.

i'm joined now by reform uk leader richard tice. richard, potentially just 200 migrants sent to rwanda . is it even worth it? >> the farce gets even more farcical . farcical. >> patrick. all of this noise over the last two years, over £300 million of british taxpayers cash sent to rwanda, and now they're saying, i'll tell you what, send a few on on a small plane, and then we're going to have a two month pause to sort of assimilate. and you think, hang on, what's going on here? we're being ripped off. and another thing i want and there's another thing i want to raise here, which is that no one's talking about in one's been talking about in the uk. about the uk. we've been talking about the safety but the safety of rwanda. but here's the thing actually, it thing. actually, rwanda, it turns being is funding a turns out, is being is funding a militia group in the neighbouring democratic republic of congo. the us has been complaining about it. the united nafions complaining about it. the united nations has complained about france, has complained about my concern is that our hundreds of millions of pounds is being diverted to fund the militia group a neighbouring country. group in a neighbouring country. i from bad to i mean, this gets from bad to

worse. these are serious, serious no one in this serious issues. no one in this government is looking at it or talking about it all. they're saying, rishi, he's got a plan. his plan is not deterrent at his plan is not a deterrent at all, is they're still coming all, is it? they're still coming across on the he's quite across on the boats. he's quite right labour's not got right to say. labour's not got a plan. have a plan. you safely plan. we have a plan. you safely pick up, you take back to france. legally entitled france. we're legally entitled to so. no one else will dare to do so. no one else will dare talk just on that. talk about just on that. >> , if you think there is >> then, if you think there is a suspicion british taxpayers suspicion that british taxpayers money is going to fund a war for essentially militia groups, presumably we can't send anyone to rwanda and sukh answers for that. >> well, i think that's right, because other countries, the france , the us, they're france, the us, they're expressing real concerns about this militia group. and, you know, these are serious allegations. but no one in this government seems to have thought fit to address it. >> the irony here would be is if, we've been funding if, if, if we've been funding that and we end up having to take from that conflict take refugees from that conflict , i mean, you just couldn't make it up. >> a e’a- t a of circular >> it's a sort of circular nightmare of and fiasco. >> it's a sort of circular nig we are of and fiasco. >> it's a sort of circular

nig we are actuallyand fiasco. >> it's a sort of circular nig we are actually callfiasco. >> it's a sort of circular nig we are actually call some of >> we did actually call some of the detail early, actually. last month, the bombshell rwanda files right here on gb news reported the initial accommodation capacity was indeed for just 200, which could increase to 500 within the first couple of months. we also found that the rwandan government had yet to secure private accommodation to move migrants on, which is still reportedly an issue today. now i just want to put something to you, which is from very much the other side of this political speaking this political debate. speaking to the to gb news earlier today, the shadow secretary , yvette shadow home secretary, yvette coopen shadow home secretary, yvette cooper, the rwanda bill cooper, said the rwanda bill will have support . will not have labour's support. >> well, we need to strengthen our security and fix the our border security and fix the chaos in the asylum system because under the conservatives we've really seen criminal gangs take hold along the channel and then this huge soaring backlog with asylum hotel use that is costing the taxpayer billions. so instead of all the gimmicks that we've had from rishi sunak and the conservatives, our plan is to get a grip. >> well, dare i ask you,

richard? you know, labour have got a better plan than you guys. they're going to tackle the problem on other problem upstream on the other side channel, not me. side of the channel, not me. >> a break we've heard. >> a break we've heard. >> wait for them to get in the channel so you can turn them around. channel so you can turn them arorwe've it all before. >> we've heard it all before. it's a bit like drug dealers, right? of a drug right? you get rid of a drug dealer the streets. dealer off the streets. and guess another dealer guess what? another drug dealer fills vacuum. that fills the vacuum. the idea that if of criminal if you get rid of one criminal gang shores of gang right on the shores of normandy around calais, normandy and around calais, they're it they're saying they'll do it across no else. what do you across no one else. what do you think are being to think people are being trying to do for the last few months? this is massive game is a massive, massive money game . it stops you stop . it only stops when you stop the model, which is the business model, which is everybody returned. that's everybody gets returned. that's real kind real leadership. it's the kind and compassionate thing to do. ten be alive today ten people would be alive today if we'd done what i've been talking about for a year, because that's the number. we've already the channel this already died in the channel this yeah already died in the channel this year. are in year. thousands are dying in the mediterranean. the same mediterranean. exactly the same strategy be used. this strategy needs to be used. this is the sort of thing that australia did. we know it works . australia did. we know it works. we it takes leadership. we we know it takes leadership. we know there's of flak from know there's a bit of flak from the liberal lefties. know there's a bit of flak from the ignore liberal lefties. know there's a bit of flak from the ignore them, ral lefties. know there's a bit of flak from the ignore them, get .efties. know there's a bit of flak from the ignore them, get .efdone

just ignore them, get it done and where would you return those people to? >> just calais. just the back to the back to the ports at calais and dunkirk were legally entitled to do it. >> and it's funny, isn't it? no government minister, i've been talking about year. talking about this for a year. no one has disputed me because they're embarrassed, humiliating. >> what the coming in >> what about the ones coming in in is going up in lorries, which is going up and up and up? we can't turn the lorries back. >> that's absolutely so >> that's absolutely right. so you've the you've got to improve the scanning the numbers scanning security. the numbers coming dramatically, you've dropped dramatically, but you've got to improve the security and you've to improve the you've got to improve the security the boats security on the boats and the ferries the time. ferries exactly the same time. >> okay. well look >> all right. okay. well look richard, you very, very richard, thank you very, very much is richard much as ever. that is richard tice leader reform uk. tice that leader of reform uk. look, when we approach the home office last month this about office last month this is about the rwanda files and about rwanda essentially not being able willing able to take or willing to take that both that many people, both the british governments british and rwandan governments have made clear that this have always made clear that this scheme uncapped with the will scheme is uncapped with the will and ability to build capacity over rwanda , something over time. in rwanda, something that i think is really, really worth looking into is what richard said there, which is about, you know, the speculation

as to whether or not there is indeed a proxy militia war taking place and whether not taking place and whether or not the british taxpayer well the british taxpayer may well indeed have a hand in that unwillingly, of course. look, coming up, things get wild in turkish as players are turkish football as players are forced to defend themselves from a invasion, including one a pitch invasion, including one midfielder launching spinning midfielder launching a spinning kick . i will share the kick on a fan. i will share the full video very shortly, but before that i will bring you all of tomorrow's newspaper front pages hot off press and pages hot off the press and i can tell you the princess of wales features heavily , as does wales features heavily, as does some more trans kids. madness i will reveal all shortly.

be. welcome back. it is time now to bnng welcome back. it is time now to bring you all of tomorrow's news. tonight with the very first front pages . we're going first front pages. we're going with the metro celebrity 16 eight fast doubles the risk of dying . there we go. there's also dying. there we go. there's also a picture of barack obama wandering into 10 downing street, where they've gone for popular leader inside number 10, the sun. great to see you again . the sun. great to see you again. kate. the princess of wales is pictured out in public with

husband william for the first time since undergoing surgery in january. she looks, quote, happy and relaxed . let's go now to the and relaxed. let's go now to the independent. the banksy picture for a new banksy springs into life. and yes, it's mine , he life. and yes, it's mine, he says. they've also got exposed secret nhs report that shames the ambulance service. confidential review obtained by this paper reveals trainee paramedics subjected to widespread sexual harassment and racist abuse by staff and students are too intimidated to call out extremely alarming behaviour. let's go to the i energy customers sat for payouts worth billions in a scandal that's bigger than ppi. well, here we go. energy firms could be forced to pay out billions after small business wins. landmark legal case so it could open the floodgates for hundreds of thousands of micro businesses also seeking compensation for energy deal broker fees, apparently queenie's casino slots recouped 14 grand from a

french power firm, energy, after a judge ruled that the energy broker hid additional fees. so all those hidden costs isn't it? yes. the daily telegraph, reeves britain faces 1979 moment labour vows economic take off similar to thatcher years with growth led policies. now there's a story at the bottom of the telegraph that i'm going to be focusing in on shortly. welsh pupils changing gender in schools now get a load this. schools now get a load of this. schools all allowing schools are all allowing children to change gender without parents. without telling parents. under welsh labour. there you go. the details of that are staggering . details of that are staggering. daily express migrants chosen for first flight to rwanda in the spring. yep, there we go. and the daily mail. harry and meghan are downgraded by the palace . harry and meghan were palace. harry and meghan were downgraded acrimoniously downgraded despite acrimoniously stepping down, they've been using their profiles as the duke and duchess of sussex. well, last night those pictures and biographies briefly vanished. they also have picture story they also have the picture story of william and kate. well, here to pick through those front

pages and also some stories on the inside of the book as well. i am joined by daily express columnist malone, trade columnist carole malone, trade unionist andy macdonald and the daily express political editor sam lister. right, okay. so look , there is a pretty obvious contradiction in the protest group queers for palestine. i will hand over to tory mp mike freer, who recently explained why he, as a gay man, when i see queers for palestine , i say on queers for palestine, i say on what planet? >> if you want to be a gay man in gaza, i'll pay your airfare . in gaza, i'll pay your airfare. >> let's see how long you. last march, you became nice down in gaza. >> well, a despicable clip has now emerged of a muslim youtuben now emerged of a muslim youtuber, imran ibn mansoor. and this is his theory about why allah isn't granting hamas victory in the war against israel. >> you're sitting next to a guy who's going to go and penetrate and sodomise another guy tonight

and sodomise another guy tonight and you're going, you're going to expect a lot to give you victory because you're standing next to a guy who's going to literally genitals literally insert his genitals into back passage . into another man's back passage. >> queers for >> andy, should queers for palestine continue going on these marches? >> yeah. i don't see any reason why not. you know, he's some homophobic moron with a microphone. you know, he's got a platform and he's using it for what appears to be just homophobic bile. there's no reason that gay people who want to organise themselves to support palestine shouldn't continue to do so. i don't see a reason why not. >> you don't think that might be a relatively commonly held view in, i don't know palestine in, oh, i don't know palestine well, i don't know. well, and i don't know. >> i've never been to palestine. i don't think so. i think having silly answer, i think having support. i'm saying to you, well, no, he's a he's a homophobic this bloke. homophobic radical, this bloke. >> there's probably >> i think there's probably a lot people like lot of other people just like him. well, i those same i'm him. well, i have those same i'm sure do. sure they do. >> i'd condemn them. i'm >> and i'd condemn them. i'm sure queer palestine would condemn but condemn them as well. but there's reason queer there's no reason that queer people can't organise people can or can't organise themselves support themselves to support the self—determination themselves to support the self—detern people. themselves to support the selfbutetern people. themselves to support the selfbutetern p

themselves to support the selfbuteternptsomeone agroup >> but when someone if a group hates you the way this guy is talking about, he's saying that people in palestine don't like gay people in fact, he's going a bit farther than that. he's saying what they're doing is hideous and vile. you think that's that's good set that's a good that's a good set of support . of people to support. >> i don't think he speaks for the palestinian i don't the palestinian people. i don't think, he's just say think, you know, he's just say he i said people have >> i said people who have similar views him, don't similar views to him, i don't really question . really understand the question. there's a difference between supporting the self—determination of palestinian people, make this country support that. maybe they don't support that, do they? >> well, i would just say, do you think that on the the you think that on the whole, the gaza people, example , are gaza people, for example, are tolerant of homosexuality ? tolerant of homosexuality? >> the guardian people? i'd probably say so, yes . so >> the guardian people? i'd probably say so, yes. so i think it depends where you go in gaza, depends who you speak to. >> it depends where you go in gaza. >> well, i mean, i don't really know what the question is. you know, the question is should palestine quest palestine should the quest for palestine march? >> it's actually really simple >> it's actually a really simple question. think that that

question. do you think that that that tolerant that gaza is tolerant of homosexuality ? the people within homosexuality? the people within gaza tolerant gaza are tolerant of homosexuality? know , i homosexuality? i don't know, i don't know, i mean, they're not mate. >> yeah, well, you should know, but because lots of lots but what's because lots of lots has written about it, so has been written about it, so you i'm sure . you actually should. i'm sure. but see what that's got but i don't see what that's got to with gay organising to do with gay people organising themselves to support the self—determination >> people. >> people. >> people might think >> some people might think that maybe little silly to maybe it's a little bit silly to march , you know, for not not march, you know, for not not entirely , but for, a society entirely, but for, a society that might want to kill you . yes. >> the left's obsession with the palestinian cause is blind to the flaws. >> but who says they're left queers for palestine? palestine how do you know? do you think? >> do you think they're right wing? >> i mean, they could be. do you know about a link know something about a link between left wing people and gay people we don't know? people that we don't know? >> not that's that's >> that's not that's not that's not what said. that is not. not what i said. that is not. >> that's not what you think? >> that's not what do you think? >> that's not what do you think? >> you queers >> do you think queers for palestine right wing palestine is a right wing organisation? palestine is a right wing org they'vel? range of. >> they've got a range of. >> they've got a range of. >> you think, think it >> do you think, do you think it is wing organisation? is a right wing organisation? >> think, i don't think

>> i think, i don't think they're. you think it is. they're. do you think it is. i don't think they're politically motivated. they're motivated. i don't think they're politically think we, i think >> i think i think we, i think we of opinions. we we know of opinions. i think we know. do we know i think i think we do. think we do know. we do. i think we do know. >> i mean, gay people can be left right wing. left wing and right wing. yes. >> yeah. of course. >> yeah. of course. >> i don't reason why >> and i don't see a reason why right people can't be right wing people can't be members for palestine. members of for palestine. >> that's not what said. >> okay, that's not what i said. >> okay, that's not what i said. >> but said the left. >> but but you said the left. we're about queers. we're talking about queers. >> talking the >> yeah, i was talking about the left blind spots when it left and its blind spots when it comes palestine you comes to palestine and you are linking different there, linking different things there, you're that you're not addressing that argument? you're not addressing that argumentmean, the left, you you're not addressing that argumthe nean, the left, you you're not addressing that argumthe leftl, the left, you you're not addressing that argumthe left is:he left, you you're not addressing that argumthe left is az left, you you're not addressing that argumthe left is a very , you know, the left is a very disorganised. >> left is the left is >> well, the left is the left is very disorganised. >> bold assume the >> it's bold to assume that the left have one set opinion on anything. >> let's move to the story. >> let's move on to the story. let's move on to a story that's on front the telegraph. on the front of the telegraph. okay, this is welsh labour okay, so this is welsh labour allowing change allowing children to change gender parents. gender without telling parents. so children so schools are allowing children to change their gender. parents have raised the alarm about the shocking approach being taken to children questioning their genden children questioning their gender. the welsh gender. in wales, the welsh government has promised to pubush government has promised to publish draft guidance for schools , but here go. all 68

schools, but here we go. all 68 schools, but here we go. all 68 schools wales that answered schools in wales that answered freedom of information requests submitted the said they submitted by the group said they would facilitate the gender transition pupil only 28% transition of a pupil only 28% of the school stated clearly that they would inform parents okay, some 38% said they would not inform parents automatically and another 29% said they would only inform their parents with with a child's permission. carol wales under labour. >> you're reading it and i'm i'm exploding with fury. this is beyond outrageous. how dare a teacher or a headteacher take it upon themselves to know a child well enough and start facilitating this procedure, which may or may not involve hormones, which may or may not involve therapy? how dare they? their first responsibility be? if a child wants to, wants to change, wants to change gender is to tell their parents and let their parents deal with what happens after that. you know, while forever hearing from teachers that don't want to teachers that they don't want to do of parents. they

do the jobs of parents. they don't want to change don't want to have to change nappies and schools. don't nappies and schools. they don't want close kids. they want to have to close kids. they don't to to give them don't want to have to give them breakfast. here they are breakfast. but here they are with as intrinsic with something as as intrinsic as, as changing gender. and they're doing it they're talking about doing it without parents permission. how dare they? all people dare they? all of the people who've who've allowed to who've who've allowed this to happen shouldn't working happen shouldn't be working there happen shouldn't be working the there would be an argument >> there would be an argument under incredibly under this. this is incredibly inclusive. 76% of schools instructor pupils to instructor encourage pupils to recognise their classmates preferred pronouns. maybe this is just a nice thing. >> i think. you know, recognising preferred pronouns and allowing them change and allowing them to change their is quite different. their gender is quite different. i think they're very two different things. i think being polite and calling someone who wants be she a she, i wants to be called she a she, i think that's fine . you know, think that's fine. you know, they're kids, them live. but they're kids, let them live. but i is a significant i think there is a significant difference changing difference between changing someone's respectful. >> think children >> do you think children understand about these issues? >> it depends on the child. >> i it depends on the child. i have to say it would come to down if an if an eight year old, for example, if an eight year old asked for a particular pronoun, i they have the capacity. i wouldn't say so.

>> choose their own gender, >> to choose their own gender, they'd does the they'd have to be. so does the teenagen they'd have to be. so does the teenager. teacher teenager. does the teacher have to respectful eight to be respectful of that eight year old's? >> think yearold's? >> think conversation year old's? >> think conversation would >> i think a conversation would be , but with who? with the be nice, but with who? with the child, child and the parent. child, the child and the parent. i child really i think if the child really wants the parents are wants it, the parents are being cut this. cut out of this. >> wouldn't. it be more >> it wouldn't. it be more respectful of teacher had respectful of the teacher had the the parent the conversation with the parent about everything? >> think personally, >> i think. i think personally, quite possibly, yes. and also as well. it will be an interesting insight, won't it? you know, as we maybe stare down the barrel of a labour government, we do have government in have a labour government in wales is taking place wales and this is taking place in so read into what in wales. so read into that what you pizza express in you will. pizza express in woking, we go. the woking, here we go. the inability a habit of inability to sweat a habit of being too honourable. it was the interview the interview that gripped the nafion interview that gripped the nation . prince andrew's infamous nation. prince andrew's infamous bbc newsnight with bbc newsnight sit down with emily rocked the royal emily maitlis rocked the royal family and now the new netflix drama scoop will show viewers how that interview came about . how that interview came about. >> an hour of television can change everything. >> three women and a whippet wouldn't have seen that in a bbc

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well, it's patrick christys tonight. we're on gb news. i do have a front page for you. i also do have quite an astonishing story to bring you. let's just do this first. well, it's the times , sunak risks it's the times, sunak risks losing key votes on rwanda bill. all right. fine. piers prepared to delay flights until after may. big picture. barack obama strode into downing street, strode into downing street, strode out of it again, there we go . now, i, i strode out of it again, there we go. now, i, i am joined by my press pack daily express columnist carole malone, trade unionist andy mcdonald, political editor at the daily express. sam lister, yes . i was express. sam lister, yes. i was informed of something at the break. i'm going to leave you hanging on this for a second,

because we want to make sure that we get right, but if that we get this right, but if it what i think it is, it's it is what i think it is, it's big news. but first, mark drakeford entered his final drakeford has entered his final 48 the welsh 48 hours as the welsh first minister. of mad minister. a quick rundown of mad dog nhs dog drakeford's legacy nhs waiting list through the roof. wildly unpopular 20 mile an hour speed oh, and a deranged speed limits oh, and a deranged response to covid pandemic response to the covid pandemic banning of all banning the sale of all non—essential items in supermarkets the point where supermarkets to the point where they built blockades and barriers around products such as books and clothes. thanks for the memories, mark. well, on saturday, vaughan gething was announced as his successor . saturday, vaughan gething was announced as his successor. no? me neither. anyway, no doubt welsh citizens want to hear his policy framework. how are we going to turn the community around? however, as this report from itv demonstrates, our woke political and media class are only interested in one thing set to become the only black politician ever to run a european country not just because i have the honour of becoming the first black leader in any european country. >> as of today, the prime minister the london mayor, the

leaders of scotland, wales and indeed northern ireland all come from groups that have been marginalised and discriminated against in the not too distant past . now, this doesn't mean past. now, this doesn't mean there is no racism or discrimination in the country. in fact, in some respects those things could be said to be getting worse. >> oh my gosh, honestly , what >> oh my gosh, honestly, what are his politics? what's he going to do to change our lives? what's he going to do to change the lives of people? tell the lives of people? i'll tell you. had campaigned on you. gething had campaigned on pledges education pledges to raise education standards, improve the welsh nhs, and create nhs, build more homes and create more right. more green jobs. all right. okay. i think maybe we should just judge him on whether or not he delivers those promises. shall on the colour shall we? and not on the colour of skin. carol, what the of his skin. carol, what the heck of his skin. carol, what the hechu know that reporter there >> you know that reporter there that saying? that was saying? because i listened full report listened to the full report earlier he actually said to listened to the full report earlpresentere actually said to listened to the full report earlpresenter ,actually said to listened to the full report earlpresenter , it'sially said to listened to the full report earlpresenter , it's noy said to listened to the full report earlpresenter , it's no bigid to listened to the full report earlpresenter , it's no big deal. the presenter, it's no big deal. and then then proceeded to and then and then proceeded to make deal of the colour make a huge deal of the colour of this guy's skin. i don't care what colour your skin want what colour your skin is, i want to know he's going to change to know how he's going to change the basket is now the basket case that is now wales and has been for years and

nothing mentioned about nothing was mentioned about that. he himself was talking about history about his colour, saying history has . no it's not. has been made. no it's not. wales is way behind curve. wales is way behind the curve. mayor, government look at westminster. we have we westminster. here we have we have a huge number of black skinned, brown skinned ethnic people in our parliament and indeedin people in our parliament and indeed in our cabinet. wales has not. they need to stop making a big deal of it. >> well, this is it. i mean, the complete, complete free pass there. i know what no one would have any wiser about have been any the wiser about any policies or policies any of his policies or policies whatsoever, fact whatsoever, other than the fact that he's an ethnic minority and he's discriminated against somehow. yeah, think, you know, he >> yeah, i think, you know, he was president >> yeah, i think, you know, he waswales president >> yeah, i think, you know, he waswales so3resident >> yeah, i think, you know, he waswales so he ;ident >> yeah, i think, you know, he waswales so he comes from the wales tuc. so he comes from the wales tuc. so he comes from the kind of background as the same kind of background as me. is pretty cool. me. i think this is pretty cool. pretty little thing. pretty cool little thing. >> but what is the of his skin. >> got it. i think it is. it is relevant. but also the fact that he's working think if he's working class. i think if we're at diversity, a we're looking at diversity, a lot kind brown skinned lot of the kind of brown skinned and people in and black skinned people in westminster, they and black skinned people in west|to 1ster, they and black skinned people in west|to the ', they and black skinned people in west|to the private they and black skinned people in west|to the private schools, went to the private schools, they to, i went to posh they went to, i went to posh universities, working class lads, himself. lads, done well for himself. that's about really. that's what i care about really. well, about him. well, i know about him. >> know about the

>> is that that i know about the caribou don't know the things. >> identity politics, leading all, we not long all, you know. do we not long for day really, when people for a day really, when people will be judged? by will actually be judged? not by the of skin, but by the colour of their skin, but by the colour of their skin, but by the of their output? the quality of their output? >> absolutely. think >> absolutely. and i think i think it's worth noting think it's actually worth noting in report, but it shouldn't in that report, but it shouldn't be and bottom. the be the top and bottom. the report, the least interesting thing always be thing about you should always be your sexuality , the your sex, your sexuality, the colour skin. if that is colour of your skin. if that is the only interesting about the only interesting thing about you. problems. you. we have problems. and i think we've with think obviously we've seen with his the state that his predecessor the state that he's put to wales into. and i think , you know, we need to know think, you know, we need to know more about what's to come from vaughan gething. >> yeah. well we do we do need to a bit more about it to to know a bit more about it to all honest all be perfectly honest with you. find it you. and i just find it absolutely that absolutely astonishing that that was thing that they was the only thing that they could really with. but could really come up with. but i did you a big story. did promise you a big story. it's not this just yet, though, haha. to keep you haha. i'm going to keep you waiting for a little bit longer. but football last but turkish football was last night rocked, rocked by shocking scenes of violence after hoougans scenes of violence after hooligans pitch hooligans invaded the pitch dunng hooligans invaded the pitch during derby during a fenerbahce derby against rivals trabzonspor. against arch rivals trabzonspor. watch these dup.

okay, that field has enough time to now be able to tell you this. are you ready? british actor aaron taylor—johnson has formally been offered the coveted role as james bond. that's according to the sun. we will have a. we are. yes, there we go. all right. we'll have a picture of this guy at some point soon. a source said bond is aaron's job, should he wish to accept it . the formal offer to accept it. the formal offer is on the table and we are waiting to hear back. so this news literally just coming through to us at the moment is that british actor called that a british actor called aaron , who is it aaron taylor—johnson, who is it has formally been offered the coveted role as james bond. that's according to the sun . that's according to the sun. >> you know who i do know who he is. he he's he's a great lad. he was in kick—ass. kick—ass two when he was younger. and kick—ass, he seems quite big and

he's oblivious here. his audition film for, james bond was, i think it was called bullet train. it was this kick—ass. he was in bullet train. he was in bullet train. he's got this lovely moustache. he's got this lovely moustache. he's got this lovely moustache. he's got a very bright looking good lad. >> okay. >> right. okay. >> right. okay. >> , his his wife is >> still, his his wife is considerably older than him, now i the why. i know the why. i know the why. i know the why. >> found somebody. >> she found somebody. >> she found somebody. >> yeah , he's he's the toyboy. >> yeah, he's he's the toyboy. >> yeah, he's he's the toyboy. >> a bit of a bizarre relationship. from what understand. >> they've together a long time. >> yeah, yeah, i think that's part issue. how long part of the issue. how long they've been together. what do you bit of a you mean? he was a bit of a young, a young lad they got young, a young lad when they got together that young. i >> careful he was not that young. but anyway. >> all right . yeah. >> okay. all right. yeah. i mean, don't know, be mean, i don't know, i'll be honest don't know honest with you. i don't know anything his , his anything about his, his relationship, but not relationship, but let's not let's on that for now. let's not focus on that for now. i that would be remiss of i mean, that would be remiss of us about any of us to speculate about any of that, that's him, that, but that's him, apparently. bond. there we that, but that's him, app he's ly. bond. there we that, but that's him, app he's not. bond. there we that, but that's him, app he's not. not bond. there we that, but that's him, app he's not. not me,|d. there we that, but that's him, app he's not. not me, is there we that, but that's him, app he's not. not me, is he are we that, but that's him, app he's not. not me, is he ?a we go. he's not. not me, is he? i'll never be bond. >> unfortunately, you look at >> unfortunately, if you look at him film, him in his most recent film, bullet a hunk. bullet train is a is a hunk. he's not all that he is. he is. no, he's your thoughts, sam.

>> doesn't do it for >> well, he doesn't do it for me, patrick. >> to say, not about. i'm >> i have to say, not about. i'm not. >> we care about the new bond. you know, he's got a bit . we've you know, he's got a bit. we've digressed here, haven't we? we've. we've immediately started talking. i'm sorry, guys, i will. what i will say , what will. what i will say, what i will. what i will say, what i will say is what i will say is this is that is part of bond, isn't it? i suppose it's the it's the hunky sex appeal of, you know, james norton. >> did you audition? patrick? >> did you audition? patrick? >> i unfortunately didn't get past audition phase. past the initial audition phase. you didn't get an initial? the reason. you know, the reason i don't drink martinis anymore. that's it is. there we go. that's what it is. there we go. >> think that's all it is >> do you think that's all it is , sweetheart? >> really? , sweetheart? >> butlly? , sweetheart? >> but she's got more charisma than that guy. >> things that didn't need to be said. there we go . right. said. carol. there we go. right. okay, enough of okay, that's quite enough of that. to reveal that. it's time to reveal today's pritt stick that. it's time to reveal today' jackass. pritt stick that. it's time to reveal today' jackass. all itt stick that. it's time to reveal today'jackass. all right ck that. it's time to reveal today'jackass. all right ,k that. it's time to reveal today' jackass. all right , carol union jackass. all right, carol is your greatest asset, right? >> mine's a posthumous award to maggie thatcher. now, there are a bunch of idiots at the vienna air museum , which is run by air museum, which is run by a former labour councillor called tristan tristram hunt. and they

have thatcher alongside have put mrs. thatcher alongside a bunch of villains. and some of those villains have been hitler and osama bin laden. i mean, this is outrageous. this vienna gets 60 odd million taxpayer funded money. stop the money. because if idiots like this are in charge, you might not like thatcher, but you cannot compare her to hitler or osama bin laden. absolutely killed thousands and millions of. >> all right, let's rattle through. go on. andy, great britain sadiq khan this week, it was on radio four today. he said that pro—palestine activists are causing hurt and fear potentially causing hurt and fear for the jewish population of london. this is something you've for and you've been calling for and acknowledgement. so, you acknowledgement. so, there you go. right. go. all right, all right. >> damn . god go. all right, all right. >> damn. god damn. go. all right, all right. >> damn . god damn. yeah. >> god damn. god damn. yeah. >> god damn. god damn. yeah. >> cole me, who you >> victoria cole for me, who you had great, had on earlier. great, great woman stood the woman who stood up to the cry—babies in the trans row. was banned her own show. banned from her own art show. terrible. she came on and terrible. and she came on and gave a very good account of herself. >> however, today's greatest briton margaret thatcher. briton is margaret thatcher. mainly always wanting briton is margaret thatcher. mtsay' always wanting briton is margaret thatcher. mtsay that always wanting briton is margaret thatcher. mtsay that right always wanting briton is margaret thatcher. mtsay that right very nays wanting briton is margaret thatcher. mtsay that right very quickly nting to say that right very quickly now, jack carol mine

now, union jack acas carol mine is all those idiot tories who are so far removed from what britain need and want. >> and they said that penny morden should take over from rishi sunak . rishi sunak. >> it's a no from you. >>— >> it's a no from you. >> they think that she's the answer to the tories problems. what hell the question? what the hell is the question? >> on, william >> all right, go on, william keegan, he's this chippy guardian columnist who said that britain doesn't need to reform. it just needs to rejoin the eu somehow thinking that britain it just needs to rejoin the eu som perfectiinking that britain it just needs to rejoin the eu som perfect before that britain it just needs to rejoin the eu som perfect before tha'lefttain it just needs to rejoin the eu som perfect before tha' left the was perfect before we left the eu. moron >> right. okay. >> right. okay. >> wow, lloyds banking group , >> wow, lloyds banking group, who have decided in their wisdom that the tum widow, is no longer appropriate, despite owning scottish widows, because the phrase is apparently unnecessarily vivid. >> right. okay, the world's gone absolutely barmy. and today's union jack ass is william keegan. he's one a&e, one moeen ali taking a double. >> you there. there we go. >> you there. there we go. >> finally . >> finally. >> finally. >> look, i've really enjoyed tonight's show. thank you very, very we've covered a heck very much. we've covered a heck of lot ground. i'll be back of a lot of ground. i'll be back

again from 9 pm. next again tomorrow from 9 pm. next up, of course, headliners. up, of course, is headliners. they're going to be whizzing through even detail. all through in even more detail. all of tomorrow's newspapers and my, my, my, there's of a lot my, my, there's a heck of a lot for to go out, so keep it. for them to go out, so keep it. gb news. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hello and welcome to the latest gb news forecast from the met office. rain spreads east dunng met office. rain spreads east during the next 24 hours. breezy. along with that rain , breezy. along with that rain, but it does turn drier and brighter later on tuesday . brighter later on tuesday. weather fronts responsible attached to this area of low pressure , anchored off the west pressure, anchored off the west of scotland overnight. and those weather fronts will bring outbreaks of persistent rain to the north and the west initially, before transferring east. the rain does turn more showery. it tends to fragment through the night, but still some of those showers will be quite heavy, particularly in the

north and the west. not much rain, the south—east rain, reaching the south—east at all in fact, some clear spells remain with the cloud remain here, but with the cloud and the increased breeze, gales for north—west well , it for the far north—west well, it is going to be a mild start to tuesday, albeit a cloudy and a showery run. quite, quite a lot of showers, i think around dunng of showers, i think around during tuesday morning, breaking up into the afternoon to hit and miss downpours. most likely northern and central england. seeing those downpours with some brightness either way and actually feeling warm in any sunny spells 17 or 18 celsius. but more rain is on the way, spreading up from the southwest on tuesday night and into wednesday , reaching the wednesday, reaching the grampians and persisting through much of the day across eastern and northern england, wales and the midlands. before eventually turning back to showers. further outbreaks of rain to come on thursday, particularly towards the northwest where it will be windy and cool and then showers to come on friday. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers,

gb news. >> it's 11:00 gb news. >> it's11:00 and gb news. >> it's 11:00 and the news from gb news is that mps in the house of commons have tonight rejected all ten amendments to the government's flagship rwanda bill, suggested by the house of lords. all ten amendments were voted down tonight, one of which was designed to ensure the bill complies. the domestic and international law. the

controversial legislation aims to deter illegal migrants from coming to the uk on small boats by deporting them to rwanda, downing street says the initial cohort of people is now being contacted , with the prime contacted, with the prime minister still determined to see the first plane departing later this spring. earlier on today , this spring. earlier on today, the shadow home secretary, yvette cooper, spoke to us at gb news. she said labour would get a issue. we need to a grip on the issue. we need to strengthen our border security and fix the chaos in the asylum system because under the conservatives we've really seen criminal gangs take hold along the channel and then this huge soaring backlog with asylum hotel use that is costing the taxpayer billions. >> so instead of all the gimmicks that we've had from rishi sunak and the conservatives, our plan is to get a grip that starts with the new cross border police to go after the criminal gangs to smash the gang networks and prevent boats arriving on the french coast in the first place. >> yvette cooper, now tata

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