deter illegal migrants from to deter illegal migrants from coming to the uk on small boats by deporting them to rwanda, downing street says the initial cohort of people is now being contacted , with the prime contacted, with the prime minister still determined to see the first plane departing later this spring. earlier on today , this spring. earlier on today, the shadow home secretary, yvette cooper, spoke to us at gb news. she said labour would get a issue. we need to a grip on the issue. we need to strengthen our border security and fix the chaos in the asylum system because under the conservatives we've really seen criminal gangs take hold along the channel and then this huge soaring backlog with asylum hotel use that is costing the taxpayer billions. >> so instead of all the gimmicks that we've had from rishi sunak and the conservatives, our plan is to get a grip that starts with the new cross border police to go after the criminal gangs to smash the gang networks and prevent boats arriving on the french coast in the first place. >> yvette cooper, now tata

steel, will begin shutting down operations at its site in port talbot from wednesday. that's due to what they're calling stability concerns, the steel group said it had been forced to make the closures earlier than previously planned because the equipment can no longer run safely. coke ovens are used to turn coal into coke, a key raw material used in the process of making steel . the former making steel. the former environment minister zac goldsmith , has been banned from goldsmith, has been banned from driving for a year. it's after he was caught breaking the speed limit seven separate times. driving in london between april and november last year, the conservative peer was also caught speeding on two motorways, most recently in december in his hybrid electric car. december in his hybrid electric can he december in his hybrid electric car. he pleaded guilty to all the offences and was fined 5500 pounds and ordered to pay a surcharge of 2000 plus costs . surcharge of 2000 plus costs. the government's been warned that the sales of heat pumps will need to increase dramatically to achieve climate

change targets. the government wants to install 600,000 low carbon heat pumps annually by 2028, but the national audit office said ministers had been too optimistic to think that target could be reached, despite the government's climate aims, only 55,000 heat pumps were sold in the uk in 2022. the independent public spending watchdog saying efforts to encourage people to install them have been slow because costs are high and public awareness is low. and finally, britain's most successful female olympian, dame laura kenny, has announced her retirement from professional cycling. the athlete posted the news on instagram saying it was time to move on. the five time gold medallist had been expected to compete at the paris games this summer, but the 31 year old welcomed her second son last year and said spending more time at home with him and her family was now proving more important to her. the latest stories do

sign up for gb news alerts, scan the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. com slash alerts now time for headliners . time for headliners. >> hello and welcome to headliners. i'm simon evans joining me to sift through tuesday's newspapers are the comedic talents of leo kearse and paul cox. >> and indeed their physical forms as well. >> yeah. here. how are you.7 all >> yeah. here. how are you? all right . lovely. thanks. how are right. lovely. thanks. how are you? had a whole week off last you? i had a whole week off last week. anything happen? you? i had a whole week off last wee know anything happen? you? i had a whole week off last wee know there |ing happen? you? i had a whole week off last wee know there washappen? you? i had a whole week off last wee know there was there n? you? i had a whole week off last wee know there was there was you know there was there was newspapers every day. so, i mean, i vaguely that. mean, i vaguely remember that. just of some sort of just a flurry of some sort of automatic distribute. did you do anything your off? anything with your week off? like a i toured, i was in like a hod? i toured, i was in darlington, hexham, carlisle and glasgow . so nice darlington, hexham, carlisle and glasgow. so nice and like darlington, hexham, carlisle and glasgow . so nice and like nice, glasgow. so nice and like nice, nice crowds, beautiful wetherspoons every step of the way and that's all that matters.

but anyway , i must be careful but anyway, i must be careful not to drift into commercial representation . let's have representation. let's have a look at tuesday's front pages. sorry mr com telegraph, kick us off. reeves. britain faces its 1979 moment, and that'll be the birth of new romantic daily mail. harry and meghan are downgraded by the palace but still visible. mirror i will not let you down. that is keir starmer i. news, energy customers set for payouts worth billions in a scandal that's bigger than ppi , the express bigger than ppi, the express migrants chosen for first flight to rwanda in the spring. that sounds exciting. and daily star this time next year , we'll be this time next year, we'll be billionaires. so those were your front pages . so we're going to front pages. so we're going to start with a particularly unusual front cover on the daily mail here. >> so the daily mail is two

royal specials. >> one is about harry and meghan being downgraded palace. being downgraded by the palace. i know if that's an i don't know if that's an investment grade or something like that, but the main story, the everybody the one that everybody cares about, world about, the image the world has been waiting to see. smiling kate with william . kate out walking with william. that's not the image of kate i was waiting to see, but this is, you know, there's been speculation kate speculation after weeks of kate going missing with her operation not being seen. then she not being seen. and then she released picture that was released the picture that was revealed have been revealed to have been photoshopped and possibly a composite several different composite of several different images. now they've released images. so now they've released a of her. out, out, out. a photo of her. out, out, out. a farm shop, some sort of farm shop or, plant centre type thing. nursery, and people are saying that this is kate. it doesn't look like kate . so it's doesn't look like kate. so it's not it's done nothing to quell the speculation. and the conspiracy theories. i mean, in fairness, you know, some people have said it doesn't look like her, but they've only had a few days to find a lookalike or tweak an android. i don't know that they have. there must have

been lookalikes making a decent living i don't living for the last, i don't know, 15 years. i mean, know, 10 or 15 years. i mean, she's been international she's been an international celebrity. high celebrity. there must be high grade lookalikes. have grade lookalikes. you could have got shop in windsor. got to a farm shop in windsor. >> have to say , because i >> i have to say, because i don't buy into any of this conspiracy stuff. i conspiracy stuff. you know, i don't believe she's on the don't believe she's been on the moon. do think she's still moon. i do think she's still alive. that i don't know if alive. but that i don't know if they specifically chosen a particularly photograph to particularly bad photograph to help feed this conspiracy , but help feed this conspiracy, but that does not look anything like kate. and i'm starting to think that doesn't look anything like william, either. >> mean, doesn't it doesn't >> i mean, it doesn't it doesn't just look like a in a in just not look like a in a in a sort of you can see how they were, might have sort of you can see how they were, it, might have sort of you can see how they were, it, but might have sort of you can see how they were, it, but inight have sort of you can see how they were, it, but i mean,iave sort of you can see how they were, it, but i mean, it'e sort of you can see how they were, it, but i mean, it looks thought it, but i mean, it looks quite defiantly unlike her. yeah. like quite pointedly unlike it's like when james bond went away and he came back and he wasn't scottish anymore. i mean . absolutely. he's she's the mean. absolutely. he's she's the aussie version. yeah. i think it's really odd. she doesn't even i'm reminded of, charles moore, the editor of the telegraph and spectator occasionally who got into some

trouble for saying that olivia colman had the wrong sort of face to play the queen in the crown. he said she had a sort of left wing type thinking . i'm not left wing type thinking. i'm not saying that we know what that means. yes but that's how i look at her. she doesn't look like she comes from the same . i don't she comes from the same. i don't know, she just doesn't look like she comes from the same family. and also, kate has photoshopped a sun watermark across it, which, which doesn't help things ehhen which, which doesn't help things either. odd anyway, good luck to her if she is out. i wish her well. let's hope there is some sort of i do. i mean, i heard, our , our our colleague, earlier our, our our colleague, earlier just, you know, on the previous program , patrick saying that the program, patrick saying that the seriously the buckingham palace press office have not handled this well at all, have they? i mean, they've lost control of it completely. and, you know, it is time there might be people who are starting genuinely are starting to feel genuinely quite this . yeah. quite unsettled by this. yeah. >> i would say that this >> i mean, i would say that this photograph none at photograph has helped none at all. i'd much rather see all. i mean, i'd much rather see the photoshop of the photoshop version of the instagram they

instagram photograph where they sit family, which i would sit as a family, which i would never noticed somebody never have noticed if somebody hadnt never have noticed if somebody hadwith this. yeah, with out with this. yeah, even with my eyesight, that just looks like it's like something out of viz or something, isn't it? it's like two people went to a farm shop sunday. that does not shop on sunday. that does not mean okay. mean that kate's okay. >> you being challenged to >> you are being challenged to say something, aren't you? it's the emperor's new princess. anyway, speaking of photoshopped portraits , there's one on the portraits, there's one on the daily telegraph, but that's not their main story. it's not? >> no. there is a lovely photograph the queen what photograph of the queen and what we all of her great we believe is all of her great grandchildren. but we don't know anymore. don't know anymore. we just don't know something. blooming something. it could be blooming anyone. headline that anyone. but the headline that we're interested in is reeves, and obviously is , rachel, and this obviously is, rachel, rachel reeves, britain faces 1979 moment. and i'd just like to say i was a 1979 moment for both my parents were. yeah. so conceived and born in 1979, whereas i was alert when thatcher was elected , and it was thatcher was elected, and it was pretty much on my 14th birthday. >> was it really? yeah >> was it really? yeah >> so that was may, wasn't it?

may the 3rd. and this is what they're talking about. so britain faces 1979 moment rachel reeves , today reeves will argue today, today being and tuesday being tomorrow and tuesday as she a labour she vows that a labour government would work with businesses a decade of businesses to create a decade of national renewal. so she's pointing back to 1979. obviously, thatcher came in in may and 1979 was the end of this kind of terrible decade , in kind of terrible decade, in terms of the economy for the 19705, terms of the economy for the 1970s, obviously it's brilliant for music and all sorts of other cultural yeah, and then cultural reasons. yeah, and then of course, we went into the 80s and there was huge boom, and there was this huge boom, and there was this huge boom, and you know, blazers. >> and interesting though, >> and it's interesting though, because , there was a because i mean, there was a there was a discussion earlier, but on this but we're coming on to this story whether or not story about whether or not thatcher to be regarded as thatcher is to be regarded as a villain national history thatcher is to be regarded as a villéwhether national history thatcher is to be regarded as a villéwhether i'iii'iolial history thatcher is to be regarded as a villéwhether ninot sheiistory thatcher is to be regarded as a villéwhether ninot she should be and whether or not she should be spoken the breath as spoken of in the same breath as hitler laden, which hitler and bin laden, which we'll there. but but it's we'll get there. but but it's interesting how the labour party obviously regard her in obviously don't regard her in that. they're that. in that light, they're quite to say we're on the quite happy to say we're on the bnnk quite happy to say we're on the brink thatcherite. maybe brink of a thatcherite. maybe not same policies, but not the exact same policies, but national yeah, think national renewal. yeah, i think here is trying to trying to attract, know, the more sort attract, you know, the more sort of aspirational people you

of aspirational people who, you know, occasionally know, you still you occasionally meet them on the left. not usually. usually they're just envious and want to envious and bitter and want to steal off you. but mean, steal money off you. but i mean, it's a ridiculous thing to say because the labour now and because the labour party now and the party now are the the tory party now are the absolute polar opposite of anything. thatcher would do. they're for big state. they want to tax, load, spend loads and they loads of red tape as they have loads of red tape as well. so for business to thrive in those those situations is ridiculous . in those those situations is ridiculous. no, you're absolutely right. it is fair to say, though, that although the thatcherite revolution was an ideological one, it was underpinned north sea oil underpinned by north sea oil revenues, which absolutely made it often gets big. always it often gets big. we always overlook, but that was a big part the if we find part of the if we can find something like that, know, something like that, you know, let's wonder if we did find it, >> i wonder if we did find it, then let us use it at the moment. yeah, exactly. >> that would be that would be that, that would be me, that that, that would be to me, that would swing vote. frankly would swing the vote. frankly yeah, express. so the prime yeah, express. leo. so the prime minister he's still minister confirms he's still committed the deportations committed to the deportations timeline are chosen timeline as migrants are chosen for the first flight to rwanda in the spring. and that's this

spring, not spring 2048, presumably , although, yeah, i presumably, although, yeah, i mean, i wouldn't so up to 200 have been selected. i mean, this could change everything. and they're going to be revealed. they're going to be revealed on podiums slowly rotate with podiums that slowly rotate with the dry ice migrants. yes. 200. >> it's not even like an active tuesday on the on the channel is it? >> i mean it's not it's not even a full size travelodge is it. you know, what are they going to when they've been selected as well. sorry. >> you do. this is just much >> you do. this is just so much about this that's ridiculous. >> pathetic. he >> absolutely pathetic. he deserves laughed out of deserves to be laughed out of the country. he does. well, yeah. if you could take one one of the seats maybe. but, but in his favour , the ten lords his in his favour, the ten lords amendments to amendments that were going to water rwanda bill were , water down the rwanda bill were, were down by the government were shut down by the government today, showed that the today, and it showed that the tory party can still unite sometimes because all the other parties were to keep parties were voting to keep these the tory these amendments. and the tory party united behind rishi and slapped them down and made sure it goes through okay. so i mean, obviously , you know, joking obviously, you know, joking aside, it's meant to be a

deterrent. we're not meant to deport millions of migrants to rwanda, probably a thousand or something. and then people will know mean business. and do know we mean business. and do you think would at this you think it would work at this point? mean, ijust you think it would work at this point? mean, i just don't have you think it would work at this pwhen mean, i just don't have you think it would work at this pwhen it1ean, i just don't have you think it would work at this pwhen it first i just don't have you think it would work at this pwhen it first came don't have you think it would work at this pwhen it first came in, n't have . when it first came in, i thought, well, it's so crazy. it might got might just work, but you've got to that like as they to do the ones that like as they arrive, like set arrive, it's like as you set foot, you get there's no point. like people know that, like because people know that, oh, taken those i oh, they've taken those 200. i can go and get, you know, can still go and get, you know, all the, all the free stuff like all the, all the free stuff like a trapdoor to rwanda at. >> dover. >> yeah. at dover. >> yeah. at dover. >> but, this, this policy. >> yeah. but, this, this policy. >> yeah. but, this, this policy. >> we talked a little bit about thatcher. thatcher sort of led from the front. she said, this is what i'm going to do. like it or lump it. this is my vision. this we're going to do this is how we're going to do it. it was undiluted. now. it took her to 7 years to achieve took her 5 to 7 years to achieve a lot of things. and people a lot of her things. and people forget didn't happen. a lot of her things. and people forgiwould didn't happen. a lot of her things. and people forgiwould diclostiappen. a lot of her things. and people forgiwould diclost1a|iten. a lot of her things. and people forgiwould diclost1a|it hadn't she would have lost if it hadn't been falklands, wouldn't it? >> exactly. we all say, and however this is so diluted now, it's use to anybody. it's of no use to anybody. >> these amendments don't >> these ten amendments i don't care of that. care about any of that. basically, if you're going to have party country, have a third party country,

you're send illegal you're going to send illegal immigrants do immigrants to, then just do it. get the planes on the tarmac to choose than 200. don't choose more than 200. don't select them like they've won a competition. just we take them and they go ideally like like the in madagascar. the lion in madagascar. >> know, a stun gun and the >> you know, a stun gun and the crate. that would be the way to do anyway. finishing off do it anyway. just finishing off very folks. the star, very quickly, folks. the star, we've got, like, 30s big news here. >> yeah. this time next year, we'll be billionaires. so this is all to do with divers. hope to start bringing up £13 billion worth in gold bullion from spanish, from spanish galleon, which the brits sank 315 years ago. simon. >> amazing. i have a friend who has invested in an ongoing project to retrieve gold that is apparently at the bottom of the. it's not the irish sea between britain and ireland. is that the irish sea? yes. yeah, which was on its way over to pay war debt or something. all right. sank so there's this stuff down there's lots of this stuff down there's lots of this stuff down there not easy to there and it's not as easy to isolate and identify, but once you get mean, it you get it, i mean, it definitely exists. yeah. yeah, of brilliant thing about of course. brilliant thing about gold know, fine.

gold is, you know, it's fine. give yeah give it a go. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> we wish us well, that was the start of the british empire. drake's it drake's gold. anyway. that's it for part one. in part two, a monarchy malarkey from dambusters to sham busters. and someone grabbed trump by the

and welcome back to headliners your first look at tomorrow's top stories. i'm simon evans and i'm still here with leo kearse and paul cox. leo tuesdays telegraph now. and the russians have certainly scooped nicholas whittle here. so the russian media falsely claim king charles is dead. i mean that's the telegraph is using the word falsely. falsely. yeah. yeah. no, no , i just think they've no, no, i just think they've just got an advance on the news, but, yeah, apparently this false statement announcing the death of the king has been circulated in russia. the notice, was in russia. the notice, which was purported been released in russia. the notice, which was pu|buckingham been released in russia. the notice, which was pu|buckingham palace, released in russia. the notice, which was pu|buckingham palace, saidased in russia. the notice, which was pu|buckingham palace, said the by buckingham palace, said the

king unexpectedly king passed away unexpectedly yesterday afternoon. i don't know, this of shows you know, this sort of shows you that propaganda can't that russian propaganda can't even royal. this even get the right royal. this isn't everybody's isn't the one. everybody's speculating about right now, or maybe, the maybe maybe, you know, maybe the maybe there's a lot of them. not the not the british propaganda is much better. like, we can't even photoshop a picture of our royals, , but, yeah, royals, properly, but, yeah, i mean, there are a lot of these conspiracy theories floating about, but i'd just like to reassure that it's just reassure everyone that it's just because every 200 years, shape shifting to shifting lizards have to go through a moulting process and return planet for return to their home planet for it. so that's what's going on. once the full blood transfusion has gone through and has been gone through and they've changed the iron for copper, mean, cheeky copper, i mean, these cheeky russians really russians, they really are rascals, simon. russians, they really are rasiiils, simon. russians, they really are rasiiils, simifi. russians, they really are rasiiils, simif i didn't know any >> i mean, if i didn't know any better, i'd believe they weren't on side. but i mean, we did on our side. but i mean, we did speculate that putin was very unwell . unwell. >> oh, yeah, that's a fair point. actually. there was a lot of speculation. and he's a serious leader well, not just serious leader as well, not just a figurehead. >> and there's been no evidence of no, he looks just of that since. no, he looks just as healthy. >> in fact, it turned out he had

a better grasp of facts than several other world leaders. >> he certainly he certainly knew his, he knew his russian and ukrainian history. >> 1313 century history. >> 1313 century history. >> i mean, he's got a bit too much of a grasp on account of it. i'm not in position to we're not in a position to say whether the 1850s, you know, played out exactly said. i mean, the exactly as he said. i mean, the i'm quite flattered in a way that the russians are as bothered about. do you know what i mean? mean, could i mean? yeah. i mean, they could just as easily have gone. biden's but they've biden's dead, but they've gone for that's quite nice for the king. that's quite nice in a way. >> yeah. thank you. russia. yeah it is very interesting. they you managed trend . was managed to trend. it was trending the world. trending all over the world. we kept now a royal kept seeing now a royal announcement. royal announcement all through x whole all the way through x the whole time. nothing ever came of time. and nothing ever came of it. never felt like it. and it never felt like anything going to know anything was going to know because when because you know, when you, when you news cycle as you look at the news cycle as much we for instance , you much as we do, for instance, you do get a vibe sense, do often get a vibe or a sense, don't you like when the king's cancer announcement out, don't you like when the king's can

show that we can be easily played and manipulated via social played and manipulated via socwell, at played and manipulated via soc well, at the played and manipulated via socwell, at the moment played and manipulated via soc well, at the moment we're played and manipulated via socwell, at the moment we're all >> well, at the moment we're all waiting what you know. waiting to see what you know. the chat the actual deepfake ai chat bots and visual and so on are capable of. this is quite old school in a way. yeah it's quite reassuring. it's a sort of a little bit of a nostalgic thrill. anyway staying with the telegraph, paul, this feels like an news generator has been an ai news generator has been asked to story to asked to create a story to summarise the betrayal of the last 80 years a single headline. >> it does doesn't it? yeah. home office wastes millions converting busters base into converting dam busters base into asylum camp. so for those who don't know, raf scampton was famously the base for the dambusters in lincolnshire and it was taken over by the home office in april last year to turn it into an asylum camp for 2000 migrants, as part of this sort of 6 million, to quell this £6 million a day asylum hotel bill that we're all paying for at the moment. but it has remained empty. there now, which which is obviously a complete waste of money. it doesn't actually state or even speculate how millions. just says how many millions. it just says millions. and you know, a quid

is too much to be fair. so it means it does mean. however, there's a bit of a silver lining to does mean, however, to this. it does mean, however, that local west that local the local west lindsey may be able to lindsey council may be able to go ahead £300 million go ahead with a £300 million plan put in a large sort of plan to put in a large sort of aerospace technology centre and create 1000 jobs. all this is create 1000 jobs. all of this is all this is huge amounts of all of this is huge amounts of speculation. however, than speculation. however, other than the that they they have the fact that they they have taken ownership of it, they clearly spent money and there's no migrants there. yeah. >> say they spent >> which you say they spent money haven't installed money they haven't installed plumbing, they plumbing, have they. they haven't electricity. >> so okay. that's good >> so okay. yeah, that's a good point, no evidence point, there is no evidence they've spent money. no. >> there's been compulsory >> there's been a compulsory purchase whatever it purchase order or whatever it would be. and then, i mean, i don't know what state it was in previously. was it just a was it a heritage or something? a heritage site or something? yeah. it hadn't yeah. i mean, it hadn't been developed, but but yeah, there were develop and were plans to develop it and they've installed temporary they've installed 20 temporary cabins. yeah, like you say, cabins. but yeah, like you say, they're to any they're not connected to any utilities. they should have they're not connected to any utobviously they should have they're not connected to any utobviously a they should have they're not connected to any utobviously a trampolined have is obviously a trampoline centre. absolutely. >> they m absolutely. >> they be. yeah >> yeah. they should be. yeah >> yeah. they should be. yeah >> a lot of bouncy castles for whatever they spend the deal

that they've got with the ministry of defence. the home office have to return the site to its original condition before it's we're going it's handed back. so we're going to whole bunch of money to spend a whole bunch of money to spend a whole bunch of money to it into some sort of to turn it into some sort of migrant centre. going to migrant centre. they're going to have a whole bunch have to spend a whole bunch of money it back. i like money to turn it back. i like the idea of an aerodynamics or whatever you said. it was like it centre. it was an avionics centre. >> was a. >> yeah, it was a. >> that would be amazing because that for two that would be amazing for two reasons, obviously, it's reasons, obviously, because it's a tradition of the a heritage, the tradition of the dambusters also lincolnshire a heritage, the tradition of the devery sters also lincolnshire a heritage, the tradition of the devery kind also lincolnshire a heritage, the tradition of the devery kind of also lincolnshire a heritage, the tradition of the devery kind of pooro lincolnshire a heritage, the tradition of the devery kind of poor real colnshire is very kind of poor real estate. right. it's pretty cheap. know, it's that cheap. so, you know, it's that usually reflects a lack of good job. would a great job. so that would be a great place. long thought that's place. i've long thought that's where be building into where we should be building into the silicone fen should be heading north cambridge heading north from cambridge and all there, and we all the way up there, and we should of instead of should instead of instead of placing migrants communities should instead of instead of plachaven't'ants communities should instead of instead of plac haven't asked communities should instead of instead of plac haven't asked for mmunities should instead of instead of plac haven't asked for them,ities that haven't asked for them, we should place them with the people demand that they're people who demand that they're allowed in. so we could we should requisition, allowed in. so we could we shou lineker's requisition, allowed in. so we could we shou lineker's house. juisition, gary lineker's house. the guardian offices, and just jam them, yeah, them, jam them full. yeah, absolutely . whereas the people absolutely. whereas the people of lincolnshire who presumably absolutely. whereas the people of lneutral1ire who presumably absolutely. whereas the people of lneutral on who presumably absolutely. whereas the people of lneutral on these)resumably absolutely. whereas the people of lneutral on these issues,|bly are neutral on these issues, i can have some jobs. yeah. leo

this story, on the other hand, has clearly been designed with you specifically in mind at times. so sadiq khan has more than 1000 staff on six figure salary days. so the london mayor has been urged to put a lid on fat cats as city hall bursts at the seams with high earning officials, according to a pressure group, so some of them, like 18 tfl employees, receive over a quarter of £1 million a year each. >> this is this is i mean, these are civil servants or contractors or whatever getting paid insane amounts of money more than the prime minister. >> and we're not getting an amazing service. i don't know if you travelling on tfl , but you tried travelling on tfl, but i mean, it rarely works. it's like pulled a carthorse like it's pulled by a carthorse and crime. british transport and crime. the british transport police on tfl police is crime recorded on tfl is up 58% and crime has been surging in london. it's ridiculous. not it's not the only thing that's been surging. the precept, which is the surcharge khan charge surcharge sadiq khan can charge on top of council tax to pay for all this stuff. it's risen from £276 when he came in, and it's

going to rise to £471 next year. so so in fact, this this year, £471. i would like i mean i, you know, some, some of these jobs can be high pressure, a lot of responsibility . but i would be responsibility. but i would be intrigued to know just how many important decisions are made on intrigued to know just how many indailyant decisions are made on intrigued to know just how many indaily basiscisions are made on intrigued to know just how many indaily basis byons are made on intrigued to know just how many indaily basis by thesee made on intrigued to know just how many indaily basis by these sortade on intrigued to know just how many indaily basis by these sort of on a daily basis by these sort of deputy cno, officer of deputy cno, running officer of tfl. thing. it's tfl. this is nothing thing. it's all done on computers. this is nothing do actually nothing to do with actually running the business. >> this is how socialism works. >> this is how socialism works. >> they steal from >> they steal money from people's productive people's pockets from productive members then buy members of society, and then buy votes bribe the elites with votes and bribe the elites with these. some of the other evil jobs. these. some of the other evil jobs . well, there's sadiq khan jobs. well, there's sadiq khan himself. we can afuera. did you, did you did you write this article? >> i this reads like you wrote this. i mean, 100,000. there's a lot of people in these civil servants jobs on £100,000, but £100,000 in london is like 50 grand everywhere else. >> £100,000 for a senior civil servant , if >> £100,000 for a senior civil servant, if he's doing his job or her job well is not unreasonable. 250 grand, i think is a bit much on the public purse. unless you could say

maybe person at tfl should maybe one person at tfl should be on that, but like a whole raft of the second tier. >> so of , a lot of the >> so a lot of, a lot of the people that leading the sort people that are leading the sort of big projects of the big projects are contractors of contractors and paid lots of money. paid than money. they're paid more than the commissioner, because if you look here, the look deep in here, the commissioner on probably commissioner is on probably slightly less than 250 grand, commissioner is on probably slightly people|n 250 grand, commissioner is on probably slightly people runningrand, commissioner is on probably slightly people running those big whereas people running those big projects on a lot more. so they're clearly on some sort of day rate. they're being brought in deliver something. in to deliver something. the trouble these things trouble is, when these things don't delivered , what are don't get delivered, what are you getting for your money? >> yeah, exactly. there's no democratic other democratic process other than, you against himself. you know, against khan himself. nobody's mentioned a diversity officer, so i assume there wasn't one because you wouldn't mind. >> trust me. >> trust me. >> we searched . they don't >> we searched. they don't mention one. but, know, mention one. but, you know, there is about 20 of them, isn't it, paul? nice carry on. innuendoin it, paul? nice carry on. innuendo in the daily telegraph on donald trump's financial w095. >> woes. >> trump may have assets seized. well hey, after failing to raise 307 357 million fraud case bond so donald trump cannot finance.

i'm not surprised the $454 million, which is the £357 million, which is the £357 million bond for the new york civil fraud case, his lawyers have claimed, the one in which he supposedly overvalued his own assets in order to get more loans. so the idea is that he fraudulently over inflated his asset cost, value. sorry, asset price cost, value. sorry, in order to secure loans. however, when you dig deep in that the court itself values mar—a—lago at £18 million, it's ridiculous . which is probably ridiculous. which is probably what the driveway cost. yeah, this place is this place is a country club with some of the best golf courses in florida. >> and it's huge. >> and it's huge. >> but the courts say, well, there's some sort of rule that means that it can only be used as country club or something as a country club or something like that, that that it like that, that says that it lowers the value. but lowers the lowers the value. but i obviously nonsense. i mean, it's obviously nonsense. i mean, it's obviously nonsense. i this is this the i mean, this is this is the establishment using lawfare against trump. and against donald trump. and hey, i know everybody there in the know everybody out there in the internet thinks that i'm an establishment shill, a member of the illuminati who's, you know, secretly wire with secretly fed by a wire with democrat ideas . but no, they use

democrat ideas. but no, they use lawfare against dissidents. not just america , but, just not just in america, but, you know, in this country, you can anybody speaks out can see anybody who speaks out against against regime, against the against the regime, is with all sorts of, is taken down with all sorts of, all sorts of criminality. and the woman who was who he was accused of having interfered with in a dressing room in a, in a department store 25 ago. a department store 25 years ago. these two have been used these two things have been used as movement. i think as a pincer movement. i think it's genuinely dark. as a pincer movement. i think it's lienuinely dark. as a pincer movement. i think it's i think ely dark. as a pincer movement. i think it's i think it's dark. as a pincer movement. i think it's i think it's disturbing. >> i think it's disturbing. yeah, i genuinely now , of yeah, i genuinely do now, of course, let's let's take out some this sort of fraudulent some of this sort of fraudulent aspect sexual abuse you aspect, sexual abuse aspect, you know, that for know, as part of that for a minute, quite clearly, this is very, very political. yeah, very , very political. and one thing you can admire about trump is that he has managed to lead this campaign to become, the president again, with all this going on in the background. >> well, it's only i mean, it's creating a massive divide. the chasm has never been greater , chasm has never been greater, but anyone who supports trump will down on that but anyone who supports trump will now down on that but anyone who supports trump will now and down on that but anyone who supports trump will now and morenn on that but anyone who supports trump will now and more determined right now and more determined than ever. we've for than ever. we've got time for one more before the break. one more story before the break. and express, leo. finally,

one more story before the break. an(mightxpress, leo. finally, one more story before the break. an(might be ass, leo. finally, one more story before the break. an(might be getting. finally, one more story before the break. an(might be getting a'inally, one more story before the break. an(might be getting a solution we might be getting a solution to the potholes that plagued car journeys. so 150 mile per hour flying taxis could be in the uk by 2028, giving the economy a £45 billion boost, according to somebody who's completely made all this up and i don't think they really thought it through. i mean, flying ubers. are we sure we want a lot of, you know, men mohammed airborne men named mohammed airborne that's, you know, have we not learned anything in 20 years? we that's, you know, have we not lear keep nything in 20 years? we that's, you know, have we not lear keep the|ing in 20 years? we that's, you know, have we not lear keep the ethnic 20 years? we that's, you know, have we not lear keep the ethnic aspect rs? we that's, you know, have we not lear keep the ethnic aspect out ne can keep the ethnic aspect out of it. but i do think we i mean, this is the thing about flying cars, they were always supposed this is the thing about flying ca be they were always supposed this is the thing about flying ca be part were always supposed this is the thing about flying ca be part of re always supposed this is the thing about flying ca be part of the lways supposed this is the thing about flying ca be part of the future.upposed this is the thing about flying ca be part of the future. it'sosed to be part of the future. it's always the that's brought always the thing that's brought up. ever considers up. but nobody ever considers the in—air the potential for in—air collision, right? >> us probably read >> no. all of us probably read this thought time. this and thought about time. you know, promised know, we've been promised this the childhood. when the whole of our childhood. when are going to get the flying are we going to get the flying cars? tell us cars? but, it doesn't tell us when going to get them. it when we're going to get them. it does say there'll probably when we're going to get them. it does strial1ere'll probably when we're going to get them. it does strial flights)robably for some trial flights scheduled for 2026. going be 2026. mainly it's going to be drone and regular, drone deliveries and regular, sort emergency drops for, sort of, emergency drops for, for 9.99, etc, etc. it does make a weird statement . it says, the

a weird statement. it says, the future might not rely on petrol because it might be in the skies. i'm thinking, well, what is it going to run on, like gender recognition? how are they going to propel this stuff? maybe not. >> is kerosene is the is >> petrol is kerosene is the is jet as a rule, is jet fuel as a rule, which is still inferential distillation. i if these i want to know if these batteries can melt steel beams. that's that's what i want to know. but we're the self—driving cars. we should. we'd get self—driving cars before we get much more . yeah. funnily enough, much more. yeah. funnily enough, i mean, there that will i mean, there are two that will speed things up as well, because once we have self—driving cars, you to park on the once we have self—driving cars, you of to park on the once we have self—driving cars, you of the to park on the once we have self—driving cars, you of the road,) park on the once we have self—driving cars, you of the road, so ark on the once we have self—driving cars, you of the road, so that n the once we have self—driving cars, you of the road, so that wille side of the road, so that will double the width of roads. effectively. be quite double the width of roads. effimportant be quite double the width of roads. effimportant aspect be quite double the width of roads. effimportant aspect in; quite double the width of roads. effimportant aspect in terms of an important aspect in terms of speeding up. yeah, also a good time invest in property, on time to invest in property, on busy roads because it will suddenly become a lot more appealing when it's all just electric self driving cars, because currently always because currently that's always noisy. because a little noisy. yeah because a little thought for you there, paul, because you've got a few because i know you've got a few quid away and you're quid tucked away and you're wondering to do. quid tucked away and you're woryeah.g to do. quid tucked away and you're woryeah. i to do. quid tucked away and you're woryeah. i was to do. quid tucked away and you're woryeah. i was justdo. quid tucked away and you're woryeah. i was just just as you >> yeah. i was just just as you were i was thinking were thinking, i was thinking i'm invest as as

i'm going to invest as soon as i drive home. >> that's it this section. >> that's it for this section. stay us for the third stay with us for the third quarter with hate

and welcome back to headliners. host. turning to the guardian now , paul, with madness in legal now, paul, with madness in legal news. as mind reading and astral projection are no longer a defence to criminal damage. >> who would have thought it? simon hey, look. climate change, climate protesters in england and wales lose criminal damage. defence that's alarming on its own. we haven't seen that for a while. appeal court says defendants beliefs and motivations do not constitute lawful excuse for damaging property . in fact, they said the property. in fact, they said the political or philosophical beliefs and the reasoning and wider motivation of the defendant were too remote from the criminal damage and did not constitute lawful excuse. now, this feels like common sense. i

haven't seen a lot of it lately, so i can't confirm because it's difficult to recognise. but essentially they've come to the conclusion that simply being angry about something. >> well, if i've understood it correctly, correct me if i'm wrong, but i think the defence which they incredibly got away with was not that they were angry, but that they legitimately and reasonably believed that the owners of the property would share their view too, that what they were doing too, that what they were doing to their property was more important. the reason that that they would have wanted them to do it. yes, they had convinced themselves that they were doing it with the collusion of the people whose property it was. >> why are you punishing yourself? >> why are you punishing yourself ? even i >> why are you punishing yourself? even i think in one case, person who created the case, the person who created the artwork whatever that was case, the person who created the artwordestroyed ever that was case, the person who created the artwordestroyed would at was case, the person who created the artwordestroyed would have, like case, the person who created the arit'ordestroyed would have, like case, the person who created the arit was stroyed would have, like case, the person who created the arit was aroyed would have, like case, the person who created the arit was a vand would have, like case, the person who created the arit was a van goghld have, like if it was a van gogh painting, he would have. van gogh would have that. yeah yeah, have agreed that. yeah yeah, it's really. have agreed that. yeah yeah, it's and really. have agreed that. yeah yeah, it's and the really. have agreed that. yeah yeah, it's and the factally. have agreed that. yeah yeah, it's and the fact that this was >> and the fact that this was the court so it had the court of appeal, so it had already through once on already gone through once on that defence. yeah >> i think you have to assume

highly judging. i highly motivated judging. i mean, which is again, a really worrying trend, impossible to ignore. i mean, maybe it's not as new as it seems to me, but it's not a good, not a good sign. and also this, this comment here from, from the climate lobby that british law is being instrumental. instrumentalized on behalf of the fossil fuel industry. that's an absolute nonsense . just stop an absolute nonsense. just stop oil are funded by big electric. they're funded by their biggest one of their biggest backers, dale vince. given them like loads i think over a over a did not know that a huge amount of money and he, he runs ecotricity. yeah. and he obviously reaps huge rewards from , any, legislative from any, any, legislative change or any drive to , you change or any drive to, you know, put money into, into net zero fuels. dale. vince dale . zero fuels. dale. vince dale. vince. yeah. those initials are slightly sinister. >> dv or something. that's direct voltage. it is . direct voltage. it is. >> so what is the, what is the new law ? we cannot we can lock new law? we cannot we can lock them up now. can we? yeah. >> it's basically you can't that just cannot be used as a

defence. you can't, you can't take what assume someone take what you assume someone else think. else might think. >> we still don't seem >> and yet we still don't seem to have arrested that woman who sliced balfour sliced up arthur balfour recently and chucked. she has not even been. there's nothing has she's on has happened there. she's on a yoga goa right now, yoga retreat in goa right now, so she's going to back so she's going to be flying back first no, i mean, first class soon. no, i mean, but usually are. yeah but they usually are. yeah i did, i do not like it. sticking with legal matters, leo. the times fear the snp hate crime legislation actually legislation might actually prompt vexatious claims. well, i'm nobody would take i'm sure nobody would take advantage of it like that, would they? no. you never get any bitter scottish people. that's ridiculous. a warning ridiculous. so there's a warning that new hate crime ridiculous. so there's a warning thatmay new hate crime ridiculous. so there's a warning thatmay lead new hate crime ridiculous. so there's a warning thatmay lead t01ew hate crime ridiculous. so there's a warning thatmay lead to police e crime ridiculous. so there's a warning thatmay lead to police being e law may lead to police being swamped. so social media activists may swamp the police swamped. so social media activ bogusay swamp the police swamped. so social media activ bogus complaints|e police swamped. so social media activ bogus complaints based:e swamped. so social media activ bogus complaints based on with bogus complaints based on excessive claims about what is covered scotland's reformed covered by scotland's reformed hate crime laws, a leading legal scholar warned. but scholar has warned. but honestly, don't worry, these laws will be applied very selectively just to target the opponents of and anybody opponents of the snp and anybody who criticises their ideology like they did with marion miller. so marion miller was a

was a mother who she she amongst her other crimes. for anybody listening on radio, i did the air quotes thing because they weren't crimes at all. she she tweeted of tweeted a picture of a suffragettes ribbon, snp's suffragettes ribbon, the snp's goons arrested her for transphobic hate crime because that was, it was perceived to be a noose. somebody. i mean, this whole thing rests on perception. it's ridiculous. we know who the snp regard as potentially guilty of hate crimes because they released a helpful cartoon, haven't they? featuring the hate monster and his young men, young white men from, troubled backgrounds aged 17 to 25. that's it. basically me and paul that's it. basically me and paul. yeah yeah, yeah . street paul. yeah yeah, yeah. street kids. yeah, exactly. >> i mean, if you make words illegal, inevitably at some point everybody's going to get found guilty . yeah. and the found guilty. yeah. and the trick always is with these things is that it? you might think like, if it's in your favour and it protects the things that you're worried about, you think, oh, this is fantastic , what you forget. and fantastic, what you forget. and we always harp on about this is

that just down the road it gets turned around and it's against the things that you think should be protected. before be protected. and before you know you're guilty know it, you're the guilty party. why we should party. and that's why we should allow for free speech. you know we can't. what we need to do is teach a little of stoicism, teach a little bit of stoicism, in our society, you know, the fact sticks and stones may fact that sticks and stones may break bones, words will break our bones, but words will never there's a reason never hurt us. there's a reason that that phrase lasted as long as because we should be as it did. because we should be able stand. you know, our able to stand. you know, our convictions strong convictions should be strong enough that not affected enough that we are not affected by words. by other people's words. >> other hand , i really >> on the other hand, i really do hope they arrest j.k. rowling because i think that might just prove a turning point in the, in the, in the whole. >> yeah, i understand what you mean. >> absurd, because she would quite clearly be proven to be right. >> there's no legal case to answer, might just expose answer, and it might just expose the damn thing. the whole damn thing. >> that be marvellous? >> wouldn't that be marvellous? metro the v&a is metro next, paul and the v&a is getting in on the one sure way to attract publicity to a pretty standard museum exhibit racket, namely . yes. namely hitler. yes. >> and other people as well. get to a museum , lists margaret

to a museum, lists margaret thatcher with hitler and bin laden as modern villains. so they are specifically talking about, punch and judy. punch and judy , thank you. and the judy, thank you. and the representation of the devil within punch and judy, which has been has taken several manifestations. one is hitler, one is bin laden, one are lots of other people. but they chose to list three people and the person they listed as the first person they listed as the first person was margaret thatcher. i mean, is like equidistant on mean, she is like equidistant on the timeline between those two. >> i can see, you know, you go 1945, i979. >> i can see, you know, you go 1945, 1979. that's a really good point. >> you know, and to be fair, to the v&a, they just listed, devil characters , punch and judy, characters, punch and judy, people who have been unpopular in public pop. >> however, yeah, this wasn't really was this really worded in a way that, that actually says that she is evil, but a way that, that actually says that she is evil , but they're that she is evil, but they're just saying. i don't think so. >> the problem is, the v&a are given £67 million per annum,

right from government funding to stay alive . and those, stay alive. and those, obviously, that are in the conservative party who see thatcher as this great leader. yeah, i've taken umbrage to it and they've said, look, you know, we're giving you loads of money here. yeah you didn't have to didn't. to list her and they didn't. that's crime they that's the only crime they committed. yeah. but you know, so so they i think so what? so they did. i think it's i personally think it's fine. >> and i do take against this sort of when they try >> and i do take against this sort find when they try >> and i do take against this sort find a when they try >> and i do take against this sort find a moraln they try >> and i do take against this sort find a moral equivalence. and find a moral equivalence. but think they're but i think they're just pointing out that punch and judy is opportunity to create an is an opportunity to create an effigy a of popular figure effigy of a of a popular figure as puppet . yeah, yeah. as a puppet. yeah, yeah. absolutely, absolutely. i mean, yeah, would compare adolf yeah, nobody would compare adolf hitler to margaret thatcher and a bin laden. i mean, i like a sam bin laden. i mean, i like margaret thatcher, but she's not she's not that good. didn't have that charisma of a no. i think the thing about this is it's being it's it feels like it's in a narrative bit like the dark nationalism of constable paintings and all the rest of it. we've seen so many stories in museums are being sort in which museums are being sort of captured by woke narratives, and all our , exhibits being

and all our, exhibits being replaced for their audience as well, though . well, though. >> i mean, i've been to the v&a, but you've only got to wander around there to see that most of them didn't vote for thatcher. >> yeah. that's true. well, i think on this occasion i will give them a pass. but they've been warned . back to the been warned. back to the telegraph. now, leo, it sounds like solar is on its way to being too cheap to metre. so the world's largest solar company cuts thousands of jobs as prices tumble. this is in china, though. it's the giant company longi, which plans to axe 30% of staff amid ballooning solar panel supply gut. apparently the panel supply gut. apparently the panel price the spot price for solar panels is down 70. it's been an absolute, crash . and been an absolute, crash. and this is basically due to two reasons. so, what is one reason really state subsidy. so state subsidy in china, they wanted to be the strategic owners of this industry . and they are like industry. and they are like apparently 99, up to 95% of the supply complete supply chain for solar panels is chinese. so if

you want a solar panel, you've got to get it from china. so if it ever becomes, you know, something you desperately need, that's amazing. because germany had big stake in that had a really big stake in that not ago. i think it was not long ago. i think it was siemens. company huge siemens. that company were huge on they that's on it. and they well that's extraordinary. listen we are, we're facing a break. we'll be back in a moment for the final section with siemens stealing not siemens. siemens stealing cruelty free cat food and something even more disturbing than those two images.

and welcome back to headliners for our final segment straight into thursday's telegraph. leo, a very french answer to the housing crisis. so, a french town is offering free marriage counselling to save money on housing. so this is. they've really thought this through. apparently 50% of social housing applicants were single parent families , and 50% of their families, and 50% of their welfare budget was being

distributed to single parent families. so when couples break up, they become more up, they become much more expensive, for the state. so they're offering free couples and family therapy to residents in an attempt to them stay in an attempt to help them stay together and reduce the financial of all this. financial burden of all this. i mean, they could just away mean, or they could just do away with social housing with welfare and social housing and nature deal with the and let nature deal with the problem. and then people would stay together they stay together just like they used to in the old days. just tough it out. yeah, just like people. do in people. just like people do in london. no way people. just like people do in lonrcould no way people. just like people do in lonrcould afford no way people. just like people do in lonrcould afford a no way people. just like people do in lonrcould afford a one no way people. just like people do in lonrcould afford a one bedroom you could afford a one bedroom flat. do think this is flat. i mean, i do think this is a big part because we all talk about endlessly about the housing course, housing crisis and of course, migrants, the migrants, you know, are in the crosshairs. think actually crosshairs. but i think actually that families is that fracturing families is a big isn't it? of course, big issue, isn't it? of course, other shares i was in other people how shares i was in a house shares until i was in my mid 30s. and then i finally took a breath. and but, you a deep breath. and but, you know, was easier to get on know, it was easier to get on the a bit then, the housing ladder a bit then, but not something but it's not something i expected in mid 20s. expected to do in my mid 20s. but do think that is there is but i do think that is there is something right? something to it. right? >> i >> you're absolutely. and i mean, too mean, without being too conspiratorial, think, or it conspiratorial, i think, or it feels marriage is vastly feels as if marriage is vastly underestimated now in modern

society. this, this society. in fact, this, this whole valued undervalued. whole new valued undervalued. yeah. that's what i meant. so thank you. and so it just doesn't hold that value in society anymore. people don't think people see people see it as almost traditional and conservative motive to be married. yeah. without without taking into account all the things. >> absolutely. they, they, they judge it on the same basis that they might judge other selfish decisions. do i want to go there for my holiday? do i want to dnnkin for my holiday? do i want to drink in this pub eat in this drink in this pub or eat in this restaurant? whereas it used to be that it sort be understood that it was sort of part the social contract. of part of the social contract. not you had to know, but not that you had to know, but there a kind of there was a kind of understanding would you understanding that you would you would back into would feed yourself back into that do. would feed yourself back into tha sorry. do. >> sorry. >> 5 just the whole >> go on leah, just the whole system you oh, system says, you know, oh, having getting married, system says, you know, oh, havhorrible. getting married, system says, you know, oh, havhorrible. it'setting married, system says, you know, oh, havhorrible. it's boring.narried, system says, you know, oh, havhorrible. it's boring. livead, it's horrible. it's boring. live like one of the sex and the city girls sex. and city girls and no sex. and the city girls and no sex. and the city girls are all in antidepressants. got antidepressants. they've got through their 13th cat. they're all do you all alcoholics, man. what do you want is have babies. it's want to do? is have babies. it's the and most fun thing. the best and most fun thing. absolutely. will have absolutely. and you will have them another. it just them one way or another. it just depends they're them one way or another. it just depends yours they're them one way or another. it just depends yours physically, re them one way or another. it just depends yours physically, you

actually yours physically, you know, they're know, or whether they're still on projecting onto that's on your projecting onto that's coming over raft. anyway coming over on a raft. anyway i think the daily mail, think this in the daily mail, paulis think this in the daily mail, paul is the story in today's news, which makes me most convinced that nothing makes sense anymore. >> no. are you talking about, people having babies? babies, anyway, leading very much anyway, is leading very much into. this is terrifying. actually, there's no two ways about it. creepy why $250 semen stealing kits are being advertised on x with tagline including make him a dad without his permission . his permission. >> extraordinary. >> extraordinary. >> okay, so just circle that up , >> okay, so just circle that up, pause it, rewind it. listen to what i said. that is absolutely true . texas based company make true. texas based company make a mom has flooded the site with posts of flooded, flooded . yeah, posts of flooded, flooded. yeah, yeah. or dribbled the site flooded a site before now what? absolutely simon. first person video showing people fishing used condoms out of waste baskets. baskets with captions like making him a dad without

his permission . his permission. >> i do know that there are. i won't name names, but you probably know i'm talking about more than one lesbian comedian who has done very funny routines about how expensive it is to get hold of semen when they think of, you know, how much waste. it's like, yeah, exactly . and it's like, yeah, exactly. and they do have a point on that front. i mean, it is absurd to try and monetise it. obviously there are. the point is, it's not all the same, is it? that's the thing people try and pretend it is, we all know it isn't. it is, but we all know it isn't. yeah. >> en- 9 think, you yeah. >> think, you know, people >> and i think, you know, people are a bit unfair on this are being a bit unfair on this company babies are company because most babies are conceived one person in conceived by one, one person in the couple tricking the other one and say, you know, you either it in to marinate either leave it in to marinate a bit long or, you know, or you say, oh, you can you can do it tonight or just or just a mistake on both parties. >> yeah, yeah. just, you know, i've said, historically speaking , like marmite, , most people are like marmite, a the brewing a by—product of the brewing industry. and it's yeah, industry. yeah and it's yeah, it's still beautiful so it's still a beautiful thing. so this could the fertility this could solve the fertility crisis. it should be on the nhs.

absolutely. well, leo, absolutely. agree. well, leo, you are named after a cat. absolutely. agree. well, leo, you are named after a cat . what you are named after a cat. what do you make of this next story? i'm not named after a cat. i'm named after a star sign. but yeah. would you feed? would you feed your feed? your cat lab grown meat. my brother's called sagittarius. would you feed your cat? grown meat? world's cat? lab grown meat? the world's first cultivated first cans of cultivated pet food created in the uk. so food are created in the uk. so they take samples of eggs, samples of cells from a chicken egg. they culture them in the lab, where they add vitamins, minerals, amino to grow minerals, amino acids to grow into and they're sort of into meat. and they're sort of nurtured in a container nurtured into in a container that the temperature nurtured into in a container that the the temperature nurtured into in a container that the acidity; temperature nurtured into in a container that the acidity. and1perature nurtured into in a container that the acidity. and1peratthey and the acidity. and then they say unwanted say there are no unwanted chemicals, other chemicals, bacteria or other nasties meat. it's like, nasties in our meat. it's like, are you sure? it sounds like there are, i don't know, i wouldn't mind this at all. we have cat and i honestly don't have a cat and i honestly don't think he'd mind, but i've got a horrible feeling it's going to be expensive because it's be more expensive because it's going an going to be branded as an ethical alternative. yeah, yeah. >> a really >> rather than that's a really good say your cat good point. you say your cat wouldn't thing wouldn't mine. the first thing that me i listen to that struck me when i listen to this the would would cat

this was the would would my cat wilson very wilson eat it? it's very unlikely. mean he, he unlikely. yeah. i mean he, he would detect it. he's would probably detect it. he's that of cat to wind me that sort of cat just to wind me up it if it's £15 cheaper. up if it if it's £15 cheaper. yeah. yeah. he won't eat it. >> no i can't, he's gonna have to present it like. no wilson. you mustn't have that. well perhaps once. yeah perhaps just this once. yeah staying with affordable abominations against god and nature. paul the male have ant flavoured crisps . what is going flavoured crisps. what is going on here? tang of urine . on here? tang of urine. >> would you try ant flavoured cnsps >> would you try ant flavoured crisps ? no. and good night. but crisps? no. and good night. but scientists claim the insects have a nutty, sweet and caramel like flavour, but warn that they can leave an aftertaste of urine like off flavours . yeah. now, like off flavours. yeah. now, the thing about that last statement suggests that there is this kind of palette and range of wee flavour that we're all unaware of. >> yeah, yeah, this is like the warm off flavour. sweet. >> i'm okay with some of the sort of early morning grassy gooseberry sort of sauvignon

blanc weed, but yeah, i mean it's disgusting . it's disgusting. >> although leopold bloom in ulysses, the very first thing you learn about the main character in joyce's ulysses is that likes eating the organ that he likes eating the organ meats of birds and fowl, and especially the kidneys with the after tang of urine. so perhaps there is a, perhaps there's a market for it. yeah, it's a great moment. i'm not in it. we're encouraged eat we're being encouraged to eat insects moment, but all insects at the moment, but all the us eat the people encouraging us to eat insects terrible, bill insects look terrible, like bill gates, this is the gates, klaus schwab. this is the warm up. this is what is more sinister. joking aside, first of all, you buy the flavour of cnsps all, you buy the flavour of crisps then you go, oh, crisps and then you go, oh, i can the actual ants now. can have the actual ants now. yeah just. yeah. and my cat can enjoy them . enjoy them. >> that's such a good point. these last two stories are really dystopian . really dystopian. >> the show is nearly over. let's take another quick look at tuesday's front pages. telegraph kick reeves britain kick off with reeves britain faces 1979 moment. is labour about to reinstall thatcher? daily mail harry and meghan are downgraded by the palace and a dubious photo of kate. mirror i

will not let you down, says keir starmer. i news energy customers set for payouts worth billions in a scandal that's bigger than the ppi. we didn't cover that sorry express migrants chosen for first flight to rwanda in the spring and the daily star finally this time next year, will be billionaires. we're going to get all that old gold. that's it for tonight's show. thanks to leo and paul . thanks to leo and paul. headliners is back tomorrow with me, josh howie and steve and alan at 11 pm. if you've been watching at 5 am, stay tuned for breakfast. good night. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hello and welcome to the latest gb news forecast from the met office. rain spreads east dunng met office. rain spreads east during the next 24 hours. breezy. along with that rain , breezy. along with that rain, but it does turn drier and brighter later on tuesday . brighter later on tuesday. weather fronts responsible attached to this area of low pressure , anchored off the west pressure, anchored off the west of scotland overnight. and those

weather fronts will bring outbreaks of persistent rain to the north and the west initially, before transferring east. the rain does turn more showery. it tends to fragment through the night, but still some of those showers will be quite heavy, particularly in the north and west. not much north and the west. not much rain, reaching south—east rain, reaching the south—east at all in fact, some clear spells remain here, but with the cloud and the increased breeze. gales for north—west, well, it for the far north—west, well, it is going to be a mild start to tuesday, albeit cloudy and tuesday, albeit a cloudy and a showery run. quite, quite a lot of showers, think around of showers, i think around dunng of showers, i think around during tuesday morning, breaking up the afternoon to hit and up into the afternoon to hit and miss downpours. most likely northern and central england. seeing those downpours with some brightness either way and actually feeling warm in any sunny spells 17 or 18 celsius. but more rain is on the way, spreading up from the southwest on tuesday night and into wednesday , reaching the wednesday, reaching the grampians and persisting through much of the day across eastern and northern england, wales and the midlands before eventually

turning back to showers. further outbreaks of rain to come on thursday, particularly towards the northwest where it will be windy and cool and then showers to on friday. to come on friday. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news

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night. >> local roads around the country are near breaking point as pothole numbers reach an eight year high after 8:00. >> what do you think of that? anyway, it's, could it be banksy? the artist, his latest outing. or is it artwork? trash or treasure that is. know your thoughts. >> and in sport this morning nottingham forest have four points deducted for breaking premier league profit and sustainability rules. england reveal their new shirts for the euros, whilst bruno fernandes thinks the players should be allowed to celebrate by taking their shirts off. if want their shirts off. if they want to. i agree, no really. >> yes . >> yes. >> yes. >> craziness. >> craziness. >> another fairly mild day today. there is some rain around at the moment, but most of us will have a brightening up kind of day. join me later for a full forecast . forecast. >> what a carry on and