is about today, but all the talk is about his wife and it's another tough day for rishi sunak. >> aren't they all at the moment as rishi battles to get the rwanda bill passed once again, he's also got some of his fellow tory mps looking to replace him once again. >> and that's all coming up in your next hour. so welcome to the show. >> always an absolute pleasure to have your company. >> i want to hear from you today. email the usual ways gb views at gb news. this is views at gb news. com this is sit down nigel farage with donald trump . it's explosive. at donald trump. it's explosive. at 4 pm. we've got the clip where donald trump talks about nato you recall he's telling the other members to pull up their socks, cough up 2% of their gdp. well, you will not want to miss what he has to say. and that's only here gb news 4 pm. we've got that ahead of nigel farage's

exclusive sit down at 7 pm. ton to get stuck into today . but to get stuck into today. but first, it's time for your latest news headlines with sophia wenzler . wenzler. >> thanks, martin. good afternoon. it's 3:01. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom . wenzler in the gb newsroom. former us president donald trump has hinted he could deport prince harry if he wins the election in an exclusive interview with nigel farage, he said the duke of sussex won't get special privileges if he lied on his visa about drug use. >> if they know something about the drugs and if he lied, i'll have to take appropriate action, appropriate action? >> yeah, which might mean not staying in america. >> you'll have to tell me. you just have to me. you would. just have to tell me. you would. you would have thought they would have known a long would have known this a long time but time ago. you would. but i thought very thought they were very disrespectful thought they were very disrroyal ful thought they were very disrroyal family. i'm a big fan the royal family. i'm a big fan of the concept of the royal family the royal family. family and the royal family. now, i'm a little prejudiced because i thought queen because i thought the queen was incredible . incredible. >> that full

>> and you can see that full interview with former us president donald trump on farage tonight from 7 pm. now, the first person to be convicted of cyberflashing in england and wales has been jailed for 66 weeks, 39 year old nicholas hawke sent unsolicited, explicit photos to a teenager and a woman. the justice secretary described the offence as a distressing crime, which can't be normalised, and said the sentence sends a clear message that the behaviour was has severe consequences . britain severe consequences. britain faces a 1979 moment, the shadow chancellor will say in a speech, as labour seeks to bring about a new chapter in britain's economic history. addressing finance leaders this evening, rachel reeves will liken the challenge awaiting the next government that faced by margaret thatcher. she's made it clear she plans to reform the treasury if labour wins the general election. shadow chief secretary to the treasury darren jones outlined her plan. >> we are on the cusp of an

opportunity in this country, an opportunity in this country, an opportunity for a decade of national renewal where we can get growth back into our economy, make people better off and start to turn the page. on 14 years failure from the 14 years of failure from the conservatives if labour is to win the election later this yean win the election later this year, will be the worst year, it will be the worst fiscal any fiscal inheritance that any party's the second party's had since the second world war. and that's why we talk national talk about a decade of national renewal . there will renewal. there will be some things immediately, things we can do immediately, and services are and public services are obviously our priorities . obviously one of our priorities. >> the first minister of wales has faced questions in the senate for the final time, before sending his resignation to the king. mark drakeford is officially stepping down after five years on the job. he'll be succeeded by vaughan gething , succeeded by vaughan gething, who is set to become the first black leader of a european country. mark drakeford was asked by the leader the welsh asked by the leader of the welsh conservatives, andrew rt davies, what advice he'd give to his successor . successoi’. >> successor. >> i'm afraid hours and hours of his time , because it's his time, because it's unavoidable that if you come here and you can be asked a

question, not simply any question, not simply any question on the brief you happen to hold, but any question on rodents anyway. >> no breaking point as pothole numbers reach an eight year high, a report found just 47% of local road miles were rated as being in a good condition, with 36% adequate and 17% poor. >> the asphalt industry alliance said councils were expected to fix 2 million potholes in the current financial year. that's up 43% on the previous year and the highest annual total since 2015. pothole campaigner mark morrell wants to see the government invest in road repairs . repairs. >> i don't accept there's no money, they find money for things that they want to spend on that. i, you know me and you disagree on hs2. i mean, £66 billion, the rail road that won't go in central london never to up to birmingham when our roads are networks failing to up to birmingham when our rotme are networks failing to up to birmingham when our rotme it's networks failing to up to birmingham when our rotme it's like orks failing to up to birmingham when our rotme it's like putting failing to up to birmingham when our rotme it's like putting an ling to me it's like putting an extension on our subsidence, but there's loads of examples where

government find where government can find money where it it's not it wants to, but it's not a priority for them, you know, on the side , every time you the other side, every time you have a repair in your vehicle because they get vat, because they get 20% vat, don't they ? they? >> and the prince of wales is visiting housing initiatives in sheffield today to promote his homelessness project. the outing comes after the princess of wales was filmed smiling while out shopping for the first time since her operation in january . since her operation in january. the sun has now published pictures and a video of princess catherine with prince william, who were at a farm shop in windsor on saturday. it follows weeks of social media speculation surrounding her health and whereabouts . and for health and whereabouts. and for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. com slash alerts. now it's back to . martin. it's back to. martin. >> thank you sophia. now we've got so much to get through

today. let's get our teeth stuck into the show . of course, into the show. but of course, there's start into the show. but of course, therthat's start into the show. but of course, therthat's that. start into the show. but of course, therthat's that. nigel start into the show. but of course, therthat's that. nigel faraget and that's that. nigel farage exclusive interview with donald trump and trump's warned prince harry that he could be kicked out of america if he becomes president again . harry, of president again. harry, of course, is being investigated over whether or not he lied in his visa application after admitting in his autobiography , admitting in his autobiography, spare that he'd previously taken drugs, might come back to bite him on the bum. and trump spoke to nigel about how harry to nigel farage about how harry and meghan's behaviour affected the late queen. >> she, you know, i would say , >> she, you know, i would say, although she wouldn't show it because she was strong and smart , but i would imagine they broke her to things that they her heart to things that they were saying were so bad and so horrible and, and, she was in her 90s and hearing this stuff . her 90s and hearing this stuff. i think they broke her heart. it was horrible. i think they really hurt her very bad. >> but if he's he's lied on >> but if he's if he's lied on his form , it doesn't his visa form, it doesn't doesn't, doesn't the truth need to i mean, to come out? well, i mean, should he get special privileges that we'll to see if

>> no. and we'll have to see if they know something about the drugs. and lied, have drugs. and if he lied, i'll have to take appropriate action. >> appropriate action? yeah. which might mean not staying in america. >> you'll have to tell me you just have to tell me, you would. you would have thought they would have known this a long you would have thought they woul�*ago.'e known this a long you would have thought they woul�*ago. yomown this a long you would have thought they woul�*ago. you would?s a long you would have thought they woul�*ago. you would? but.ong time ago. you would? but i thought very thought they were very disrespectful to the family, to the i'm fan the royal family. i'm a big fan of the concept of the royal family and the royal family. now i'm prejudiced because i'm a little prejudiced because i'm a little prejudiced because i thought queen was i thought the queen was incredible. of it incredible. i mean, think of it all those years, 75 years. she's almost made a mistake. almost never made a mistake. >> it's almost unbelievable . >> it's almost unbelievable. >> it's almost unbelievable. >> believe me, you will not want to miss this nigel farage exclusive interview with president elect donald trump will be live on gb news from 7:00 this evening. it's going to be a rip snorter. i'll have lots more from donald trump later in this show. and i'll also speak live to nigel farage himself at around 4:30, looking very relaxed poolside in sunglasses earlier. but now to the latest

on the government's attempts to send migrants to rwanda. the latest attempts round and round we go and downing street has said the house of lords has the opportunity to work with the government and stop people smuggling after the commons overturned amendments to the rwanda bill. well, the parliamentary showdown over the flagship bill will continue once again tomorrow, when peers may once again seek to press for changes to the proposed legislation . well, i'm joined legislation. well, i'm joined now in our studio in westminster by our political editor, christopher hope, and the independent's chief political commentator, john rentoul. welcome to you both, gentlemen. hello, chris. start with hello, chris. let's start with you. we've been here before. it's day . round and it's groundhog day. round and round we go. more ping pong than a club . will this ever get through? >> well, nearly two years ago, these plans first emerged. and it. when boris johnson was prime minister. two pm's ago and minister. so two pm's ago and nearly two years we've nearly two years ago. we've been discussing this rwanda plan. it looks like we're getting towards the the last night ten the end game. the last night ten changes or or waterings down to

quote what the government might think about it, were debated and reversed to the rwanda bill. it's now with the house of it's now back with the house of lords. it's called ping pong in the world. we, me and john, are lords. it's called ping pong in the iwoi’k. we, me and john, are lords. it's called ping pong in the iwoi’k me, me and john, are lords. it's called ping pong in the iwoi’k in martin, nd john, are lords. it's called ping pong in the iwoi’k in martin, where n, are new work in martin, where there's pong the there's ping pong between the commons it should commons and the lords. it should be reversed again back to be reversed again and back to the commons, probably to overturn more tomorrow overturn a few more tomorrow night. we could have royal overturn a few more tomorrow night. on we could have royal overturn a few more tomorrow night. on thursdayi have royal overturn a few more tomorrow night. on thursday .have royal overturn a few more tomorrow night. on thursday . and royal overturn a few more tomorrow night. on thursday . and thenl overturn a few more tomorrow night. on thursday . and then the assent on thursday. and then the real battle might start, because lots are sharpening lots of lawyers are sharpening their legal quills to try and use find holes in this new use or find holes in this new legislation to stop a cohort of maybe 200 or so asylum seekers who have been contacted by the home already and told to home office already and told to be on the first flights. so we're towards the we're getting towards the end game. heard from labour game. we heard from labour yesterday. game. we heard from labour yes1000l. game. we heard from labour yes1000 strong renewals and for 1000 strong renewals and enforcement group and that might that's their their idea. you that's their their idea. and you were you thought it was were saying you thought it was quite good and quite a good idea and might work, is to cost work, but this is going to cost i a couple of i mean, you know, a couple of million migrant million pounds per, per migrant to be sent to rwanda in the early stages. yeah. >> is like >> which in itself is like a lottery for each of them, lottery win for each of them, perhaps legal quills perhaps the same legal quills will be sharpened as were put on ice the brexit referendum.

ice after the brexit referendum. it does feel, as i keep saying, like repeating itself. like history repeating itself. the lords frustrating the will of commons , frustrating the of the commons, frustrating the will of the people. round and round this is normal. round we go. but this is normal. >> i mean, i think brexit was different court different with the supreme court ruling against the attempt to the proroguing the the fact of proroguing the parliament by jacob rees—mogg as leader the house. that is leader of the house. that is different. this is the normal run of things. you have controversial bills which are frustrated by the lords. that's controversial bills which are frustrhappens.1e lords. that's controversial bills which are frustrhappens. i! lords. that's controversial bills which are frustrhappens. i asked. that's controversial bills which are frustrhappens. i asked inhat's controversial bills which are frustrhappens. i asked in the; what happens. i asked in the lobby meeting today with the house, spokesman. house, with the pm's spokesman. do you feel that the there's no right for the house of right to do it for the house of lords the number backed lords and the number 10 backed off? but off? no, it's what they do. but equally, idea that equally, i think the idea that the elected tribunes the the elected tribunes of the people say people should have the final say is how it works. this simply is how it works. >> john, bring you >> okay, john, let's bring you in now. what pantomime. i know in now. what a pantomime. i know it's how the british got as as chris said, is how the british constitution works. >> but the question is whether the whether the whether the lords are prepared to push it a bit further than they normally would i mean, the convention would do. i mean, the convention is, that labour peers would

is, is that labour peers would accept after they've made their point, they would accept the will of the elected house. but this time it's many of them feel so strongly about it that they might be prepared to go for a few more pings and a few more pongs. >> and the thing is, half £1 billion been spent on it already. not a single person has taken off. chris has famously got a bet with rishi sunak for a single pint of beer, that one of them won't take off. i think your beer safe . do you think your beer safe. do you think chris beer is safe? well, there's ever literally and metaphorically get off the ground. well, it's a very finely balanced question, isn't it? >> because, i mean, in the end, i mean, i think what's going to be decisive with, with labour peers want to peers is that they don't want to appear blocking this appear to be blocking this policy the policy policy because it is the policy of the elected, elected of the elected, the elected government, but it might be blocked by the courts. i mean, that's what, that is that is much more likely to happen. but if the flights do get off, then, you know, labour is going to be in a, in a problem . they're in a, in a problem. they're going to have a big problem at the election campaign because

going to have a big problem at the ele going ampaign because going to have a big problem at the ele going ampaithey'reiuse they're going to be they're going yvette going to be saying, as yvette cooper they will cooper has said, that they will reverse the policy. they will aboush reverse the policy. they will abolish it, even even if people are already . are already. >> what does look like? >> what does success look like? is get into is the question. if you get into thousands people taking off, thousands of people taking off, that no that is success. well, no success isn't is whether it has a deterrent effect on the on the small boats crossing the whether does have as big a bearing as the plan. the rwanda plan. >> well indeed you'd be better off dance, probably off doing a rain dance, probably on dover. on the white cliffs of dover. but joking it rwanda but joking aside, is it rwanda or bust? now for rishi? i mean, it seems to have put all of his eggs that it seems to have put all of his eggs the that it seems to have put all of his eggs the opposition that it seems to have put all of his eggs the opposition , that it seems to have put all of his eggs the opposition , the that sense, the opposition, the lords, they'll be joined up thinking they'll be joined up voting to absolutely try and frustrate this. and is the frustrate this. and if it is the best option that brings into question his leadership challenge . challenge. >> he's running out of road, isn't he? and everything he's tried worked. you can tried hasn't worked. you can look autumn look back to the autumn statement the statement last year, the conference speech that was the big one october. we big one last october. then we had king's speech in had the king's speech in november. then we had autumn had the king's speech in november.in1en we had autumn had the king's speech in november.in1en spring. autumn had the king's speech in november.in1en spring. thejmn statement in the spring. the spnng statement in the spring. the spring budget last week. that's you things you know, that's a for things about seven months. nothing has

moved the he's cut moved the dial. he's cut national attacks. no national insurance attacks. no one discusses by 4% in about three months in in two points in january and now coming up in april. nothing's happening. he's lifting pensioners by £900 on the state pensions. he's cutting up that tax by £900. nothing is working. and there's frustration now in parliament. i didn't believe the rumours about him being replaced until yesterday morning, sane morning, when normally sane people were coming up to me and saying he might, he might be off this . there could be as this week. there could be as many left confidence many as 40 left of no confidence gone and only 53 required as gone in, and only 53 required as a meeting last night, one of the so—called families, 45 so—called five families, 45 minute dozen tory minute meeting, a dozen tory mps. they spoke only about how to and whether the pm should be replaced. >> i think john was laughing there because the notion there might some normally sane might be some normally sane people in chris was was essentially suggesting that it isinsane essentially suggesting that it is insane to try to try to remove the prime viewers and listeners outside the room we're in. >> it is it is in.— >> it is it is it is it is bonkers , i think, to use the bonkers, i think, to use the technical tum and i, i don't

believe there are as many as, as, as chris is suggesting who actually think this is. this is actually think this is. this is a workable idea, but i just don't think it's going to happen. >> rishi is meat in the 1922 committee tomorrow evening, i believe, i guess believe, and that's when i guess some detail might be laid some more detail might be laid down. but i guess the question is this are the conservatives in such a precarious position? they know that the iceberg coming know that the iceberg is coming and the captain at the helm might be stable, but being stable at the bottom of the sea is no use. is it? is it time is no use. no. is it? is it time to change captain? to change the captain? no. >> know trying >> but they know that trying to change would only change the captain would only make it worse, would only make things worse. and you know, i mean, maybe i talk to the wrong sort conservative mps because sort of conservative mps because is because. because the ones i tend speak to are one nation tend to speak to are one nation moderates who admire moderates who rather admire rishi sunak. they a bit disappointed with him and they think , you know, it hasn't gone think, you know, it hasn't gone very well, but they think it would worse if they tried to would be worse if they tried to get rid of it. >> if you're hurtling towards a cliff can change cliff face and you can change direction steering direction by grabbing a steering wheel before wheel and you've done it before

twice , why not try it a third time? >> because it hasn't worked twice. it made it worse every time. so. >> but then if you're going to crash i mean, so there's >> but then if you're going to craidea. i mean, so there's >> but then if you're going to craidea. this i mean, so there's >> but then if you're going to craidea. this is mean, so there's >> but then if you're going to craidea. this is called so there's an idea. this is called the contract plot, contract with britain plot, which previously which i discussed previously on gb penny gb news to bring in penny mordaunt is based on the newt gingrich idea in 1994, when he had give 100 power, an had give 100 days in power, an election straight after. that's the idea. that's the idea to bnng the idea. that's the idea to bring mordaunt didn't bring in penny mordaunt didn't work for the the republicans. >> it did. >> it did. >> then in the midterms, it's donein >> then in the midterms, it's done in the midterms, not in 96. >> i use a titanic metaphor. you went thelma louise , but went thelma and louise, but great stuff. and today the polling, polling is polling but a record deficit. now labour ahead by 26 points john in a red field poll they put on five points. the tories have dropped three. reform bubbling away on 14. yeah >> no the poll the opinion polls are terrible but i mean to take issue with what chris was saying earlier, you know. yes nothing has worked so far. but you know, £0.04 in the pound off off tax, whatever it's called national insurance tax , i think

insurance or income tax, i think thatis insurance or income tax, i think that is going to people are going to feel the benefit of that . i mean, it that eventually. i mean, it hasn't half hasn't happened. half of it hasn't happened. half of it hasn't the economy hasn't happened yet, the economy is improving, earnings are rising faster than prices, the sun might even shine this summer and people might start to feel better off. and i think you know, i. yeah, nothing can be taken for granted. i mean , the taken for granted. i mean, the opinion polls could just go on getting i think getting worse, but i think i think plenty of time now getting worse, but i think i thinfor plenty of time now getting worse, but i think i thinfor a plenty of time now getting worse, but i think i thinfor a cycle .enty of time now getting worse, but i think i thinfor a cycle wheref time now for, for a cycle where journalists bored with journalists are so bored with this story of just everything getting as getting worse, that as soon as things start, start to look, look a bit better. might look a bit better. there might be a big, mood shift. >> there could well be. let's be a big, mood shift. >> tifere could well be. let's be a big, mood shift. >> tif we could well be. let's be a big, mood shift. >> tif we couldwell be. let's be a big, mood shift. >> tif we could briefly. let's be a big, mood shift. >> tif we could briefly about talk if we could briefly about donald trump sitting down with nigel what's nigel farage tonight. what's interesting about that is that donald trump to nigel donald trump has said to nigel that he will only sit down with nigel. he won't sit down with any other british media outlets. >> not you. martin >> not even you. martin >> not even you. martin >> not even me. i'm going to highlight clip later on. i wonder if that will fuel this kind of rhetoric that he only talks to the echo chamber? or is this a significant moment where,

as a guest, you know, nigel would them the would call them the establishment media don't get access to donald trump, and therefore we're seeing a tipping point in who controls access to, to future presidents. well, possibly . possibly. >> and i think that raises a very interesting question for british politics about the effects of the american election campaign on on the british campaign, which which could well be at about the same be happening at about the same time. i mean, if there's if, if our election campaign is in october november election october for a november election or late october, or even for, for late october, then, you know, donald trump is going to be on our, on our tv screens throughout our own election campaign . and the election campaign. and the interesting question is, who does does help? does that help? does it help? doesit does that help? does it help? does it help rishi sunak or does it help starmer? it help keir starmer? >> certainly, probably be >> it was certainly, probably be a interesting a lot more interesting stateside. that's saying at least they have a binary choice where we seem muddling our where we seem to be muddling our way make of way through. what do you make of the that trump is the this notion that trump is he's talking about nato to us today. and, you know, it's explosive what he's saying. he's basically saying, i don't want to it away, but time

basically saying, i don't want to cough away, but time basically saying, i don't want to cough up,ay, but time basically saying, i don't want to cough up, you ut time basically saying, i don't want to cough up, you know, time basically saying, i don't want to cough up, you know, member states, getting away to cough up, you know, member statepaying getting away to cough up, you know, member statepaying less getting away to cough up, you know, member statepaying less thanetting away to cough up, you know, member statepaying less than 2%g away to cough up, you know, member statepaying less than 2% of may to cough up, you know, member statepaying less than 2% of your with paying less than 2% of your gdp all along. and he's rattling his very, very loudly. his sabre very, very loudly. he's not even in the white house yet. might get in yet. he might not even get in there. but does, are we there. but if he does, are we going into a new sort going to enter into a new sort of anarchic, unpredictable form of anarchic, unpredictable form of politics, actually of politics, which actually is incredibly exciting? >> well, you called him the president didn't you, president elect, didn't you, earlier of earlier in your intro. and of course, but course, he's not yet, but he feels a feeling feels there's a feeling of momentum campaign on it. >> well, already. >> well, already. >> and feeling of momentum, >> and the feeling of momentum, momentum behind his candidature, and of 2% of gdp and that the issue of 2% of gdp on, on on defence spending was like 2 or 3 countries. i think when he was president, we are one of them. and now it's like maybe half think. but they're maybe half i think. but they're trying to find there are new numbers there trying to find there are new nurthe rs there trying to find there are new nurthe rs think there trying to find there are new nurthe rs think america are all the time. i think america voters this. the fact voters will love this. the fact that countries are that the eu countries are forcing to pave their pay their own way. >> and john, in terms >> finally, and john, in terms of obviously you worked of like, obviously you worked for organ for the independent and organ not particularly enamoured with donald any capacity. >> if donald trump were to get back into the white house what would it mean for what we say,

the of liberal voters of the sort of liberal voters of the sort of liberal voters of the world? >> well, this is what i mean about the impact he might have on politics during the on our politics during the election i election campaign, because, i mean, will he will rile up, mean, he will he will rile up, labour voters , no question about labour voters, no question about it. and you know, given that he's actually extremely unpopular with, with british voters generally, i mean, even tory tories, he is, i think i think i think there's a question mark about whether he would, whether whether anti trumpism would, would, would help labour or whether people would feel that, you know, he's such a destabilising influence in the world that they would want to cling to the, to the incumbent . cling to the, to the incumbent. >> i've been told to move. i want to get one quick question out of you. how could could keir starmer, sir keir starmer work with donald trump? >> well, with immense difficulty. >> i mean, it's going to be awkward, you know, we saw, david lammy his his shadow foreign secretary, his big mates with, with blair and bush. >> i mean, you've george bush and it didn't end very well but

they shared the same they got on they shared the same toothpaste for a bit. >> there a bit there >> i mean, there was a bit there was when they got was a time when they got on. >> didn't it >> well, wasn't it didn't do it didn't a of didn't do tony blair a lot of good end. good in the end. >> gentlemen, have >> all right, gentlemen, we have to i'm being >> all right, gentlemen, we have to to i'm being >> all right, gentlemen, we have to to on. i'm being >> all right, gentlemen, we have to to on. john)eing >> all right, gentlemen, we have to to on. john rentoul. told to move on. john rentoul. chris start to the chris obe excellent start to the show. very indeed show. thank you very much indeed . now it's time for the . now it's time now for the great giveaway . we've great british giveaway. we've got a shopping spree, a garden gadget bundle, and £12,345. 1234 £5 in cash tax free. and here's all the details for you to get your hands on that wonga . your hands on that wonga. >> there's still time to win our giveaway pact with seasonal essentials. first, there's . an essentials. first, there's. an incredible £12,345 in tax free cash to be won, cash to make your bank account bloom. plus a spnng your bank account bloom. plus a spring shopping spree with £500 in shopping vouchers to spend in the store of your choice. and finally, a garden gadget package including a handheld games console, a portable smart speaker and a pizza oven for another chance to win the vouchers . the treats and £12,345

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incredible amount of speculation about princess kate's health, but she was photographed visiting a farm shop with prince william in the windsor area over the weekend . meanwhile, the duke the weekend. meanwhile, the duke and duchess of sussex's profiles have been significantly shortened on the royal family's website. well, there's so much to dive into there. let's speak to dive into there. let's speak to our royal correspondent, cameron walker, who's in sheffield. cameron, always a pleasure. welcome to the show. before stuck into that before we get stuck into that juicy menu, are you in juicy menu, why are you in sheffield? happening ? sheffield? what's happening? >> yeah, well prince william has been out and about focusing on his work, despite that photograph front of his work, despite that photsun,)h front of his work, despite that photsun, this front of his work, despite that photsun, this morning.t of his work, despite that photsun, this morning. and of his work, despite that photsun, this morning. and it'sf the sun, this morning. and it's all to do with his homewards project, which he launched last yeah project, which he launched last year. six flagship locations across the country, which will be blueprints demonstrating that homelessness can be ended within five years. sheffield is one of those locations, and today he unveiled two brand new commitments, one from a diy store home base, which obviously

is across the country , £1 is across the country, £1 million providing 1500. what's been described as home starter kit. so that's providing things like paint , flooring, furniture, like paint, flooring, furniture, trying to make a house a home because it's thought if a place is more homely, then the chances of becoming homeless again are far less likely. the second commitment, which prince william was talking about today , was one was talking about today, was one from landlords in sheffield demonstrating that people at risk of homelessness right now can get housed because across this city, 4000 individuals or families are have registered with the city council that they are homeless. that's an increase of 500 from last year. it's a new record. and prince william told people today he wants to ease pressure on councils with his new project, homewards . it's his new project, homewards. it's a five year commitment, so we're not really going to see any impact right now. it's still in the early but there's the early stages, but there's certainly hope, a lot certainly a lot of hope, a lot of talk, a lot of planning, whether that translates into impact, wait and

see. >> now, cameron, i understand prince william got a cheer, a round of applause when he arrived today, and it's probably because are supporting because people are supporting the royal family in bigger numbers ever , because, you numbers than ever, because, you know, poor old princess kate has been left , right and been hounded, left, right and centre. let's talk now about this video of her spotted out and about seems to be in rude health. >> yeah, he certainly did. prince william had a warm reception here. there was a cute kind of anecdote about his wife, catherine as well, saying that early childhood is certainly her thing , but the video, i think thing, but the video, i think two minds really one, clearly it was a slight invasion of the princess's privacy , but it princess's privacy, but it appears kensington palace aren't too about it because of too bothered about it because of what it has done is really quashed. the speculation about the princess of wales's health. it's been complete hysteria onune it's been complete hysteria online over the last couple of weeks which, with complete unfounded conspiracy theories, a about kate and b about the king. and although it's just a short 1012 second clip taken by a

member of the public, it clearly shows the princess of wales alive carrying her alive and well, carrying her shopping, having done been gone through abdominal surgery over a few months with her husband prince william side , they prince william by her side, they disappeared by a back gate back into windsor castle's grounds, into windsor castle's grounds, into their adelaide cottage, so it appears it's all good. from william and catherine's point of view , and she will be going back view, and she will be going back on public duties after easter. >> and cameron, even with that video coming out, a huge amount of speculation. is it real american media saying it's not, but it has been through software. it proves that is the princess. can we quickly talk about the sussexes ? seems about the sussexes? seems they're being slowly airbrushed from reality , at least on the from reality, at least on the royal website . royal website. >> yeah, it was a bit of confusion about an hour last night where the duke and duchess of sussex completely removed from the royal website. i think at one point even kate was . so at one point even kate was. so we're all talking about what on earth on with the royal earth is going on with the royal family's individual the family's individual bios on the

website. tell me website. royal sources tell me it's completely down to routine website maintenance. they're all back now, but harry and meghan have they have been downgraded. they used to have separate bios, which are quite lengthy. they're quite lengthy. now they're combined and at the bottom of the web page, and it's a very short bio , very similar to short bio, very similar to what's to prince what's happened to prince andrew. look like andrew. so it does look like they've been downgraded. and of course, they're no longer working the royal family. >> yeah. thank you very much cameron walker. the sussexes career going downhill faster than that bobsleigh you had on your screen there. cameron walker in sheffield, always walker live in sheffield, always an absolute pleasure. now there's lots more still to come between now and and we'll between now and 4:00 and we'll cross where cross live to glasgow, where police are being told police officers are being told to target actors and comedians under scotland's new hate crime laws. what an absolute joke . but laws. what an absolute joke. but first, here's your latest news headunes first, here's your latest news headlines with sophia wenzler. >> thanks, martin. it's 331. i'm sofia wenzler in the gb newsroom. your top story this

houn newsroom. your top story this hour. former us president donald trump has hinted he could deport prince harry if he wins the election. in an exclusive interview with nigel farage, he said the duke of sussex won't get special privileges if he lied on his visa about drug use . lied on his visa about drug use. >> if they know something about the drugs and if he lied, i'll have to take appropriate action. >> yeah >> appropriate action? yeah which might mean not staying in america. >> you'll have to tell me . you >> you'll have to tell me. you just have to tell me you would. you would have thought they would this long you would have thought they woul�*ago this long you would have thought they woul�*ago . this long time ago. >> and you can see that full interview on farage tonight from 7 pm. and the first person in england and wales to be convicted of cyberflashing has been jailed. nicholas hawks was sentenced to 66 weeks for sending unsolicited , explicit sending unsolicited, explicit photos to a teenager and a woman . the 39 year old, from basildon in essex . from basildon in in essex. from basildon in

essex, was already a convicted sex offender when he sent the images and the prince of wales has been visiting housing initiatives in sheffield to promote his homelessness project . the future king spoke to landlords and the local authority to see how his venture could help ease pressure on councils . the outing comes after councils. the outing comes after the sun published pictures and a video of prince william with the princess of wales at a farm shop in windsor on saturday. it follows weeks of social media speculation surrounding the health and whereabouts of princess catherine. and for your latest story, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen, or go to gb news. com slash alerts. >> for stunning gold and silver coins, you'll always value, rosalind gold proudly sponsors the gb news financial report .

the gb news financial report. >> here's a quick snapshot of today's markets . the pound will today's markets. the pound will buy you $1.2711 and ,1.1705. the price of gold is £1,694, and £0.14 per ounce, and the ftse 100 is at 7721 points. >> rosalind gold proudly sponsors the gb news financial report . report. >> thank you sophia. now still to come , former tory mp nadine to come, former tory mp nadine dorries opens up about the distressing experience as a nurse which set her on the road to campaign against early abortions. i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel

>> earlier on breakfast. >> earlier on breakfast. >> good morning to you all. and embattled prime minister is urging colleagues to stick with him as leadership rumours fail

to disappear. >> conservative party is very united. and you should not let disagreements turn into speculation . when the public are speculation. when the public are so rude and so unkind and so demanding, as if they own her, as if they bought her. >> i'll be ma when i get home. the boys won't leave the girls alone. they pull my hair. they stole my comb. but that's all right till i go home from six. it's breakfast on gb news. >> welcome back. it's 338. i'm martin daubney and this is gb news. nadine dorries has been speaking out about reducing the uk's pills by post abortion timeline. having previously argued for a reduction in the legal termination of 24 weeks, the limit the former conservative secretary of state spoke of psychological scarring she experienced when witnessing a late termination of a foetus

dunng a late termination of a foetus during her time as a trainee nurse , and i'm delighted to say nurse, and i'm delighted to say i'm joined now by nadine dorries, who's an author and of course, is the former conservative secretary of state for digital, culture, media and sport . welcome to the show, sport. welcome to the show, nadine. always a pleasure. very moving article you wrote in the mail on this topic. and of course, a society seems to be getting ever closer to making abortion much, much easier. and yet you've reflected back on an experience you witnessed when a trainee nurse. you share trainee nurse. can you share that please ? that with us, please? >> yeah. >> yeah. >> so the point of writing the article is in my column in today's daily mail is because very soon, the, criminal justice bill is coming back to parliament and to that bill. >> two labour mp stella creasy and anna johnson have laid down and anna johnson have laid down an amendment asking for the decriminalise ization of pills by post abortion pills, abortifacient pills sent to people's homes up until birth . people's homes up until birth. >> so at the moment the limit is 24 weeks. >> and what they're saying is

that, that women who abort later and other by accident or because they've lied about the point at which they're pregnant, shouldn't be prosecuted, they shouldn't be prosecuted, they shouldn't criminalised for shouldn't be criminalised for doing so. >> and actually, i was as a health minister, i was completely opposed to the pills by being put in place. and by post being put in place. and that's because what the system used to do was women used to go to a clinic. >> they used to have an ultrasound . ultrasound. >> we used to be able to tell exactly pregnant exactly how many weeks pregnant they they were given they were. then they were given they were. then they were given the pills take the bill pills to take home. >> happened is the >> now what's happened is the system depends the woman system depends on the woman declaring what stage of pregnancy she's at where expecting her to be truthful and to know fully her own body, which is, you know, fair enough. >> but it's it is a system which is open to abuse for desperate and vulnerable women. and what they can find themselves in is a terrible situation where they're actually aborting late tum foetus to 24 weeks onwards, and they could be aborting live

foetuses. and many women are going through this process at home and alone. and so just on your introduction, you said i campaigned against early abortion. i've never done that. i'm who's an i'm actually someone who's an advocate for early abortion. as easy as possible, as accessible as possible, so that we prevent the situation where we end up having late tum abortions . having late tum abortions. >> so, nadine, it's a thorny topic. and of course, there's this balancing act between my body, my choice women's rights dating back decades. and of course , to the point where the course, to the point where the unborn child at what point do they become a human? and if we're aborting so late via pills? there's also the damage , pills? there's also the damage, psychologically and physically, it can do to the mother because they not equipped they may not be equipped for what's happen . what's about to happen. >> well, that's very true. and what's happening now is that babies are born, neonates are being born ever earlier because medical science has advanced so much. neonatal care is advanced. we have babies being born at 23,

22, 21 weeks who are surviving is unlikely without medical intervention , that babies born intervention, that babies born at that point would survive because their lungs simply aren't developed enough to do so. and what in my so. and what i wrote in my article was when i witnessed a 27 week termination, because when i was trained to be a nurse, it was legal up to 28 weeks and a baby breathed and lived for seven minutes. it was a horrible, awful situation . and a horrible, awful situation. and what we're doing by decriminalising or what stella creasy and diana johnson want to do in amending this bill, is put women in a position where they will be at home, facing that situation . i was a nurse situation. i was a nurse assisting a late tum abortion. these will be women aborting their own babies who will have a breathing baby in their arms afterwards. and that's not a position i would want to see any woman have to be in, whether they arrive there by accident or not. it's not a position. it's mentally scarring . and it's also

mentally scarring. and it's also physically very difficult. and so i'm hoping that and i know many of us are that miriam cates , who was one of the few conservative mps who actually does her job and isn't vying to be prime minister, is be prime minister, has is rallying the support of conservative mps to vote down the criminal justice the entire criminal justice bill. if these amendments are voted on, and it's a drastic measure because it will vote down many, many measures that are needed in that bill. but i'm afraid if this one song of a conservative government is going to be that it legalised abortion up until the point of birth. and, you know, our lack of achievement is a, you know, a low bar, but that would be a pretty awful thing for a conservative government to finish on. >> i think many people listening in will totally agree with that heartfelt message. nadine, what would you like to as a more would you like to see as a more healthy ? healthy compromise? >> so i just don't want this amendment to go through, and i'd like to see women who to like to see women who want to abort or abort up until 12 weeks or wherever , you know, not to have wherever, you know, not to have to go through the process of two

doctors signatures. it's a farce. because farce. it's ridiculous because apart from anything else, you know, quite often doesn't happen. that, you know, happen. but that, you know, women are adults, they're they're they know they're adults. they they know what at that stage, they know what at that stage, they know what it what they want to do. and it should be far more accessible than it is having said than it is now. having said that, the pills by post has 87% of abortions take place under pills by post, it is still the case that if you have to go to a clinic or a doctor, the legal limit of 24 weeks will apply. but i just think making, you know, the at an early stage, the whole system much more streamlined and easier for women to obtain. and then that's that will reduce the number of abortions over all because women won't be having, you know, late tum abortions. women will and probably better access to sorry those who don't are not co—joined access to, co—joined also better access to, to you know, we've got we now have antibiotics available at pharmacy without having to go and see a gp first. maybe we

should be doing the same with birth control for women. so there measures that there are lots of measures that can place to make can be put in place to make it so can make so that we, we can make abortions rarer and not as dangerous, women won't dangerous, and that women won't need to go for late tum abortions. if we can put much more emphasis the early stages. >> okay, nadine. a >> okay, nadine. doris, a heartfelt plea. thank you very much for joining heartfelt plea. thank you very much forjoining us this much for joining us this afternoon on gb news. always a pleasure speak you. pleasure to speak to you. thank you , thank you. now, if you're you, thank you. now, if you're an actor or a comedian in scotland , you better watch out. scotland, you better watch out. you might be having your collar felt police think you've felt if the police think you've committed a hate crime by telling of joke , telling the wrong kind of joke, which in itself is an absolute joke. martin on gb joke. i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's channel .

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trump. and the next hour, i'll speak live to the man who landed that mega scoop. the one and only mr nigel farage. now to a story that i can confidently say is an absolute joke . police is an absolute joke. police officers in scotland are being told they should target actors and comedians under the country's new hate crime laws. well, gb news scotland reporter tony mcguire is in glasgow. tony, welcome to the show scotland is about to bring in the most draconian free speech laws on the planet. what on earth is going on? >> yes, indeed. and let's not forget that some scotland has some of the most out there . some of the most out there. >> comedians may only really to need to mention the names of frankie boyle and our very own leo kearse, of course. but yes, this is indeed a revelation today from the scottish daily newspaper, the herald. they have come across documentation from from training materials for police scotland, that is, to

instruct police to look at performers specifically for an avenue of hate speech and public order. now, this is the hate speech and a hate crime and pubuc speech and a hate crime and public order bill this has been in the works for quite some time. in fact, we need to go right back to when the now first minister, yousaf , he was minister, humza yousaf, he was the cabinet secretary for justice in scotland and this bill has been controversial from day one. let me tell you, not only now do many people fear that it only now do many people fear thatitis only now do many people fear that it is going to be weaponized to steer the gender ideology debate one way or the other, but now it seems that comedians and of course, home of the fringe festival here in edinburgh and edinburgh, up here in scotland, comedians are going to be very, very cautious now about what is constitutes a violation of this new act. now it comes in. this is one of my favourite little details. it

comes in on april 1st of course a day april fools day , known for a day april fools day, known for laughter and joking around . laughter and joking around. well, it seems that maybe for the first time it's going to be rather some cautious laughter this now, say the this year. now, i might say the stand comedy club here in glasgow this is very much an institution of the comedy scene institution of the comedy scene in glasgow . if you can name that in glasgow. if you can name that comedian, there's a very good chance that if they played in glasgow at some point in their career, played here. and career, they played here. and indeed, as i said at the top there, has some of there, scotland has some of those comedians like frankie boyle, kevin bridges and of course our own leo kearse. now so, it's very much a case of let's wait and see who's laughing on the 1st of april. >> and indeed tony mcguire coming in on the 1st of april. you couldn't make it up . the you couldn't make it up. the april fool here will be humza yousaf , no doubt. i mean, and yousaf, no doubt. i mean, and also these hate hate laws will include things like misgendering people . and jk rowling, no less

people. and jk rowling, no less has said that she will specifically and deliberately set out to break these laws and see what happens. tony mcguire from glasgow. thank you for joining us on the show. now the name's daubney martin daubney license to present a tv show. i've always wanted to say that. and one of the big stories today is that it looks like the new james identified, james bond has been identified, and aaron taylor johnson, and it's aaron taylor johnson, the 33 year old british star is reportedly set to replace daniel craig as the next actor to play the magnificent spy. well, i'm delighted to say i'm now joined by former bond girl jenny hanley. she was in on her majesty's secret service alongside diana rigg, joanna lumley and of course, george lazenby . welcome to the show, lazenby. welcome to the show, jenny. fantastic i watched all of the bond movies in sequential order during lockdown, and the one you were in was magnificent. what do you make of the latest, announcement? i think a lot of lot of us thought james bond

might be black or trans . might be black or trans. >> i think it proves that everybody still loves james bond because they are so interested in it and making such extraordinary claims , i was extraordinary claims, i was listening to this morning when excuse me? when somebody said it can't be him because he's got long hair. have you ever heard of a barber's ? i mean, people of a barber's? i mean, people can have their hair cut. they can have their hair cut. they can shave their beards as well. but, you know, it's been it's not the 60s anymore. and for instance, this i love james bond on his majesty's secret service, not written , of course, by ian not written, of course, by ian fleming. and this one devil may care. another bond book given permission by the fleming company. fleming publishing. bondis company. fleming publishing. bond is moving on. let him . good bond is moving on. let him. good stuff. and it is gratifying though is it not that the actor is english? i think that's important. don't you ?

important. don't you? >> i do, but you know he's an actor. there are lots of american actors who can speak very good english, there are lots of english actors who speak very good french , french, very good french, french, american. but they are actors. i mean, i love lee child books, and his hero is jack ryder. now, jack ryder in the books is , what jack ryder in the books is, what is he, six foot five? and who played him in the films? tom cruise , a foot shorter, but he cruise, a foot shorter, but he made it his own. you know, we can't criticise until we see supersub. >> well, thank you so much for joining us. jenny hanley, former bond girl. and you've really put on a cracking performance in that film. and that was george lazenby. only bond lazenby. that was his only bond appearance, he's appearance, wasn't lazenby. he's only and he was the youngest bond 29. this fellow is 33. bond at 29. this fellow is 33. he's on right he's bang on the right age because in moonraker, fleming said bond was aged 37. so ticks

all the boxes for me . thank you all the boxes for me. thank you very much for joining all the boxes for me. thank you very much forjoining us, all the boxes for me. thank you very much for joining us, jenny very much forjoining us, jenny hanley. superb stuff. thank you. now let's stand by for more of our world exclusive interview with donald trump. he's been talking to nigel farage. you will not want to miss what he's had to say about nato. that for me is the most important part of this interview. the future of world peace and what it means with donald trump. i'm martin daubney on gb news is your weather with aidan mcgivern ? weather with aidan mcgivern? >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hi there. welcome to the latest gb news forecast from the met office. largely cloudy for the rest of the day, turning damp once again from the southwest, but it will stay mild in the south, although feeling colder further north. now we've seen a weather front pass through overnight last night. next system coming along for

overnight tonight with outbreaks of rain by the end of the afternoon pushing into the southwest of england, wales and then across many central and southern parts of england before turning up by midnight into northern ireland, southern scotland northern england . scotland and northern england. it does turn drier in the far south south—east, although south and south—east, although rather cloudy ten celsius here by colder and clearer for by dawn. colder and clearer for the far north—west of scotland. a touch of frost possible, but in between a lot of cloud cover , in between a lot of cloud cover, outbreaks of rain. some of this will be heavy across parts of wales and northern england. the rain does tend to peter out through the morning. it turns more showery, i think, the more showery, i think, by the afternoon, it does linger afternoon, but it does linger there across northern england into parts of the into wales and parts of the south—west. the far south—east stays dry , with some bright stays dry, with some bright spells and highs of 18 celsius. much fresher for scotland and northern ireland. after early rain it does clear up and there will be some sunshine, but temperatures will reach 9 or 10 celsius. a wetter and windier day to come for scotland and northern ireland on thursday.

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a -- avery a very good afternoon to you. it's 4 pm. welcome to the martin daubney show on gb news. broadcasting live from the heart of westminster all across the uk. coming up, we've got our world exclusive interview with donald trump. and you will not want to miss what he has to say about nato. i'll be joined live by the man , nigel himself in by the man, nigel himself in around half an hour's time . around half an hour's time. stand by for that. and it's another tough day for rishi sunak went, aren't they tough day for the prime minister at

the moment? some of his fellow tory mps are looking to replace him. surely we can't have yet another change of prime minister and that's all coming up in your next hour . now we've got this as next hour. now we've got this as well, because the top politician has namechecked margaret thatcher today. nothing unusual with that. but what is unusual is it's a shadow chancellor, rachel reeves, who's done it. and that definitely is all coming in your next hour. so fasten seat belts, brace yourself. nigel is about to speak to donald trump. the full interview, of course, is tonight, 7 pm. on farage show. but we're getting a sneak preview , and i'm delighted to preview, and i'm delighted to say i think it's the most exciting bit of the whole thing. donald trump talking about nato now, the last time trump talked about nato, the white house called his comments unhinged. what do they have to say about

this? you'll get a chance to see that very, very shortly . email that very, very shortly. email me your opinions gbviews@gbnews.com. what do you make about trump? do you think we need trump? you think we need a trump? do you think nigel and work for nigel might go and work for donald might that break donald trump? might that break the hearts of british conservatives want nigel to conservatives who want nigel to return to frontline politics in the uk? me know your the uk? let me know your thoughts. that's all coming up. but first, time for your but first, it's time for your latest news headlines with polly middlehurst . middlehurst. >> martin, thank you and good afternoon to you. well, the top story as you've been hearing, the former us president donald trump , has been firing the former us president donald trump, has been firing a the former us president donald trump , has been firing a warning trump, has been firing a warning shot at nato, saying it's time to pay up in a gb news world exclusive , he spoke to nigel exclusive, he spoke to nigel farage and sent a clear message to member countries. >> now the massive debate back across the pond is nato. everyone is talking nato every day. it was your comments about

them not paying enough, not paying them not paying enough, not paying a 2. and you said this back in 2017 and 18 when you were president, you visited brussels . you said it again brussels. you said it again recently. you made a comment. well, the russians can do whatever they want. if these guys don't pay that is now being used well, they can use it. >> i don't really care if they use it, because what i'm saying is negotiation . is that's a form of negotiation. why should we guard these these countries that have a lot of money and the united states was paying money and the united states was paying for most of nato. and when i went there and i already had out with them, and now had it out with them, and now they but now they stop paying again. but now they're paying because of those comments you saw 2 or 3 comments that you saw 2 or 3 weeks ago. i don't know if you know, money know, but a lot of money has come those comments come in since those comments were . were made. >> well, you can see the full interview with the former president of the united states, donald trump, on farage tonight from 7:00 right here. >> gb news. now, in other news, today, the first person to be convicted of cyberflashing in

england and wales has been jailed for 66 weeks. 39 year old nicholas hawke said unsolicited, explicit photographs to a teenager and a woman. the justice secretary described the offence as a distressing crime which can't be normalised, and said the sentence sends a clear message that the behaviour has severe consequences . britain severe consequences. britain faces a 1979 moment, the shadow chancellor will say in a speech tonight , as chancellor will say in a speech tonight, as labour seeks to bnng tonight, as labour seeks to bring about a new chapter in britain's economic history. addressing finance leaders this evening , rachel reeves will evening, rachel reeves will liken the challenge awaiting the next government to that faced by margaret thatcher. she's made it clear she plans to reform the treasury if labour wins the general election . the shadow general election. the shadow chief secretary to the treasury, darren outlined and her plan. >> we are on the cusp of an opportunity in this country, an opportunity in this country, an opportunity for a decade of national renewal where we can get growth back into our economy, make people better off

and start to turn the page on 14 years of failure from the conservatives if labour is to win the election later this yean win the election later this year, will be the worst year, it will be the worst fiscal inheritance that any party since the second party has had since the second world that's why world war. and that's why we talk of national talk about a decade of national renewal . there will be some renewal. there will be some things do immediately, renewal. there will be some thin public do immediately, renewal. there will be some thin public services1mediately, renewal. there will be some thin public services are diately, and public services are obviously priorities. obviously one of our priorities. >> the first minister of >> now. the first minister of wales faced questions in the senate for the final time today before he formally tenders his resignation to the king. mark drakeford is stepping down after five years in his job. he'll be succeeded by vaughan gething , succeeded by vaughan gething, who's set to become the first black leader of a european country . the leader of the welsh country. the leader of the welsh conservatives, andrew rt davies , conservatives, andrew rt davies, asked him if he had any words of wisdom for successor , what wisdom for his successor, what advice or of the experience that you've had as first minister dunng you've had as first minister during preparation for first minister's questions and taking part in first minister's questions? >> it will take up, i'm afraid, hours and hours of his time, because it's unavoidable that if

you come here and you can be asked a question, not simply any question on the brief, you happen to hold, but any question on any part of the welsh government that every single weekend it's a bit like preparing for finals. >> now britain's roads are at breaking point as pothole numbers reach an eight year high, a new report has found that 47% of local road miles were rated as being in good condition, with 36% adequate and 17% poor. well, the asphalt industry alliance said councils were expected to fix 2 million potholes in the current financial year. potholes in the current financial year . that's up 43% on financial year. that's up 43% on the previous year and the highest annual total since 2015 to 16. now, the prince of wales is visiting housing initiatives in sheffield today to promote his homelessness project. the outing comes after he was

pictured with his wife, the princess of wales, while out shopping near their home in windsor the time since windsor for the first time since her in january. the her operation in january. the sun has published pictures and a video of princess catherine with william, who are at a farm shop on saturday. it follows weeks of social media speculation surrounding her health her surrounding her health and her whereabouts . for the very latest whereabouts. for the very latest stories, do sign up to gb news alerts. scan the qr code on your screen or go to gb com screen or go to gb news. com slash alerts back now to . martin. >> thank you paulie. now we start with our massive world exclusive interview with the former us president donald trump. nigel farage sat down with him last night for a chat in florida. the interview lasted for about half an hour and they covered us politics. harry and meghan that princess kate's picture world politics and of course nato. check this out . course nato. check this out. >> now the massive debate back

across the pond is nato. everyone is talking nato every day. it was your comments about them not paying enough, not paying them not paying enough, not paying 2. and you said this back in 2017 and 18 when you were president, you visited brussels. you said it again recently. you made a comment, well, the russians can do whatever they want. if these guys don't pay, that's now being used. >> well, they can use it. i don't really care if they use it, because what i'm saying is that's a form of negotiation. why guard these these why should we guard these these countries that have a lot of money and the united states was paying money and the united states was paying for most of nato. and when i went there and i already had it out with them, and now when i went there and i already had istop with them, and now when i went there and i already had istop payingiem, and now when i went there and i already had istop paying again,1d now when i went there and i already had istop paying again, butow when i went there and i already had istop paying again, but now they stop paying again, but now they're paying because of those comments that you saw 2 or 3 weeks ago. i don't know if you know, of money has know, but a lot of money has come since those comments know, but a lot of money has come sin

of , the nato, largely similar of it, the nato, largely similar countries, the same countries , countries, the same countries, nato, they weren't paying their bills. and i went to the first meeting and i saw that i didn't want to do it. my first meeting, i there, went to i just got there, but i went to the first meeting early in my administration, what the first meeting early in my admgoing tion, what the first meeting early in my admgoing on. , what the first meeting early in my admgoing on. and what the first meeting early in my admgoing on. and i what the first meeting early in my admgoing on. and i said, what the first meeting early in my admgoing on. and i said, you're was going on. and i said, you're going have your bills. going to have to pay your bills. everybody. the second everybody. and the second meeting, him hard and the meeting, i hit him hard and the question was asked by the head of a major country in front of everyone else, 28 countries at the us. the time, including us. they said . so if we don't pay our said. so if we don't pay our bills, are you going to protect us from russia? i said, you mean you're delinquent? not you're delinquent? you're not paying you're delinquent? you're not paying the bills? yes. nope. i'm not going you. not not going to pay you. we're not going to do it. we're not going to defend you you're not to defend you if you're not paying to defend you if you're not paying bills , we're not paying your bills, we're not going very going to defend you. it's very simple. of billions simple. and hundreds of billions of dollars came flowing in. now, if yes , i am, they're not if i say yes, i am, they're not going to pay bills. going to pay their bills. why would that ? would they do that? >> so there we are. the gloves are shots are fired. and are off. shots are fired. and believe me, you do not want to miss this epic encounter. nigel farage has exclusive interview

with donald trump will be live on gb news exclusively from 7 pm. this evening, and a reminder that i'll be joined live by that man, nigel farage himself at 4:30, direct from florida. very fine . he was florida. very fine. he was looking earlier too, in sunglasses by trump's pool . and sunglasses by trump's pool. and there's plenty more coverage of his donald trump interview on our website gbnews.com. and you've helped make it the you've helped to make it the fastest national news fastest growing national news website in the country . well, website in the country. well, for reaction to that, i'm now joined in the studio by our political editor, christopher hope, and the tory peer and the brilliant pollster lord robert hayward. nobody called hayward. nobody gets called brilliant. done. so let's brilliant. well done. so let's start with the reaction to that interview. chris, you know, no holds barred. it's what you'd expect from donald trump. will he get back into the white house? that's one question. if he does, will he really get on the front foot and take this

battle to nato? last time round? he said, it's time to pay up more . now he's saying you have more. now he's saying you have to pay all your in big trouble . to pay all your in big trouble. if this guy gets back in, it's going to be anarchy. well or is it because essentially he's trying to wake up europe up to the pressure of the concern about russia and the existential threat to some countries on continental europe ? continental europe? >> i think it's working. i think a year ago, 11 out of 31 countries paid 2% of their economic output on defence. it's now 18 this year. and that's a trend going. it's gone up by half in a year. they can see what's coming down the track . it what's coming down the track. it looks like trump could win this election according to polls. certainly give joe biden a run for his money. and already they're more of their they're spending more of their own their defence, which own dosh on their defence, which is in a very is the point which in a very humble brag way, the president made there to nigel farage by saying, on my first visit i didn't want to overstep. >> then they did overstep didn't want to overstep. >>which hen they did overstep didn't want to overstep. >>which isn they did overstep didn't want to overstep. >>which is very y did overstep didn't want to overstep. >>which is very trump,/erstep it, which is very trump, which is haven't quite is probably why i haven't quite likes america because he he gets actually . actually gets things done.

>> americans are saying, put america first. why are we spending money on europe's defence when we can't even spending money on europe's defenciourien we can't even spending money on europe's defenciour southern n't even spending money on europe's defenciour southern border? and secure our southern border? and he's showing how it works. >> and lord robert hayward , you >> and lord robert hayward, you are chortling away there. and dunng are chortling away there. and during itself, during the interview itself, you were so modest, were like going, he's so modest, but chris has a point. here's a guy, you know, he's on the cobbles. he talks direct. it seems nato are listening. >> america has its own financial problems. there's no question about it. it's not just funding of the border , but all sorts of of the border, but all sorts of other excessive government expenditure . expenditure. >> but russia invaded the ukraine and i have a sneaking feeling that the delinquents , to feeling that the delinquents, to use the phrase that donald trump used, i.e. the germans and 1 or 2 others who had cut defence expenditure virtually to zero, have responded more to the russian advance in the ukraine and the threats to the likes of finland and the balkan baltic states than they have to donald trump's modest. >> you know, i just comments in

relation to their expenditure. >> but nevertheless, he does seem to be setting the sort of drumbeat, if you like, to what we can expect if he comes back for round two and, you know, he said straight away in the show earlier, drill, baby, drill, you know, get fossil fuels pumping again and lay down the gauntlet to nato is shooting from the hip, and he's not even in the place yet. >> i think that's a fair tum shooting from the hip. he's an absolute trump. absolute classic donald trump. nobody city associated with it. and he makes clear where he wants to go. and that's what appeals to many americans. it turns off a lot of europeans because they're not of the same nature, but if i were a betting man , which i am not, but if the man, which i am not, but if the election were tomorrow , donald election were tomorrow, donald trump would win. yeah. >> i've asked asked downing street in the afternoon meeting with the his with the pm rishi sunak spokesman. will he be watching the interview tonight. they're going to get back to me. but it be wise to but it seems it might be wise to watch . well it might be to

watch. well it might be wise to watch. well it might be wise to watch i it's watch it because i think it's going instructive going to be quite instructive for our own election if this election. election election. well, the us election is november. now, if is the 5th of november. now, if rishi before or after rishi sunak goes before or after that date, late october or the seventh or the 14th, i'm not sure what you think, robert. and what's your best, best bet for the for the election this year? but it will, i think the impact on the special relationship from a keir starmer government or a keir starmer led government or rishi sunak one will have a beanng rishi sunak one will have a bearing election. bearing on on the election. >> question that >> there's no question that there will be an undercurrent of watching going on in the watching what's going on in the united states. i said for a year and a half, the election would be in october, stroke november. not sure precisely what date, but in terms of international security issues, it's important that we do watch what's going on.and that we do watch what's going on. and this country , whether on. and this country, whether you're talking to keir starmer or rishi sunak, you will have to ask the questions. how will you work with donald trump? >> because that, as i just said just now, is likely to be the position in terms of the american presidency .

american presidency. >> and let's talk. you're a brilliant pulse, a magnificent pulser. >> i'll cope with the modest description. thank you. let's talk about the poll that came out today. >> more grim reading for rishi sunak. labour now ahead by 26 points. labour on 47, tories 21 and reform nibbling up on the inside on 14. it's a grim read for rishi sunak. >> yeah, the polls for the tories have broadly flatlined. they've gone up and down in one direction another. the poll direction or another. the poll you're to was you're referring to when was almost ago almost as low a month ago it went back up and then it's come back down. and what is striking is that there is this, tories flatlining . and then there's an flatlining. and then there's an oscillation in terms of the other political parties, including what i would term the disruptors, i.e. reform the greens , people who are not going greens, people who are not going to vote, people who are supporting all sorts of minority parties. and at the moment the indications are that the conservatives are flatlining. would it make any difference if

the pm was replaced? >> now that you're not, you work in parliament do. you're in parliament like i do. you're heanng hearing people who don't normally this stuff normally talk about this stuff are now saying it. should he be replaced be replaced replaced and should be replaced by penny mordaunt? would that help them in the polls? >> none. >> absolutely none. >> absolutely none. >> the public at large in this country. we were talking country. and we were talking international affairs just now, the of the world, the the rest of the world, the democratic world would be stupefied if we if the problem for the conservative party has been trying to recover from the chaos of 2020 to 2022, they haven't in the public's minds. i put that behind them . and to put that behind them. and to change leader at this point, the overwhelming majority of conservative mps, i take your point. there are some, but the overwhelming majority of conservative mps take the view that it would be insanity to change leader at this point. there is one particular factor if the conservative party itself were markedly more popular than the party leader, then there

might be a case for that. that is not the position at the moment. both the conservative party and the leader are as unpopular. so there is zero case for changing a leader this close to a general election. >> surely there is. if, to use a metaphor, the ship is heading for the iceberg. why stick with the captain that's setting a course for disaster? >> for the reason i've just identified. >> because people , the >> because the people, the population are still population at large, are still identifying the era of 2020 stroke 2022 as much of the problem and they're not saying if you change the leader, the position will change. they are saying we don't like the conservatives or alternative ali. they are saying we're not sure. and this is where you've got this huge block of former conservatives who haven't decided where they're going. they certainly won't come back to the conservative party on the bafis to the conservative party on the basis of changing leader under anyone, even penny mordaunt, who labour the people who want labour fear the people who want to change have gone through a series of different individuals.

there falling on somebody after another, after another, after their attempted, disruption has failed. at the moment, it's penny that they're talking about , and penny has made absolutely clear that she said this morning as she out of cabinet. i'm as she came out of cabinet. i'm getting with my job, i've had getting on with my job, i've had a lot of time for penny. suddenly they decided that somebody from the centre must be the alternative . it just doesn't the alternative. it just doesn't wash. they're moving from one person to the next in an incoherent effort of desperation i >> -- >> in m >> in simple terms, that's a bit like saying i've got full confidence in the manager. and then the next morning, the director sacks the gaffer. anyway, what about bringing back farage a lot of farage into this? a lot of people saying that if he comes back into front line politics in britain and 14% for reform now could become could easily become significantly more and the tories continue, there could be that crossover. are you hoping that crossover. are you hoping that donald trump gives that fella a job? >> nigel farage i get on with? very well, he's a very good

interviewer, and he is part of the disruption on that one seeing in british politics, the pubuc seeing in british politics, the public at large, not committed to any political party, but i don't see nigel farage as part of the tory party, and i don't, to be honest, i think he does either . no to be honest, i think he does either. no problem. >> there is laughing away. he >> there he is laughing away. he sees part of the tory sees himself as part of the tory party because, look, he party there because, look, he got any the got more selfies than any of the conservatives there dancing away literally . and literally with priti patel. and i think you may see that a few tories out there , lord hayward tories out there, lord hayward would like, would you would you stay in a party with nigel farage, robert hayward, i, i'd have to see what he was advocating. >> i as far as i'm concerned , >> i as far as i'm concerned, you look at any individual, but is nigel farage going to go back to rejoin the conservative party in the way that he was previously, or is he now adopting reform party policies, which are actually in a fair number of ways, pretty left wing in terms of their commitment to expenditure on a whole series of

things? no, i'm a sound conservative economist in terms of the views and the support of private enterprise entrepreneurship . and at the entrepreneurship. and at the moment, the reform party is nowhere near that. so if nigel pursues those policies, i couldn't support him. >> okay. excellent stuff. the brilliant pollster lord robert hayward and chris hope is brilliant and everything great, sir. let's move on. thank you gentlemen. now there's still plenty of time to grab our spnng plenty of time to grab our spring prizes in the great british giveaway. and that's a shopping bundle, shopping spree. a gadget bundle, and an incredible 12,344 £45. 12345 tax free cash. but you've got to be in it to win it. and here's how you could trouser it. >> time is ticking on your chance the great british chance to win the great british giveaway. there's a massive £12,345 in tax free cash to spend however you like, along with £500 in shopping vouchers for your favourite store, a

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welcome back. it's 425. i'm martin daubney, and this is gb news. now, later this hour, i'll talk about the new england football shirts and ask, what on earth have they done with the saint george's cross? in my opinion, sacrilege . now moving opinion, sacrilege. now moving on. shall we talk about the economy ? because britain faces economy? because britain faces a 1979 moment. that's what shadow chancellor rachel reeves is expected to say in her annual may lecture tonight. the labour chancellor is expected to announce working with businesses to create a decade of national renewal. well, joining me now to discuss this is gb news

economics and business editor liam halligan with on the money . liam halligan with on the money. liam, welcome to the show. always an absolute pleasure. so say a lot of things about rachel reeves , but not a lot of people reeves, but not a lot of people would compare her to margaret thatcher. tell us what's going on in this announcement today. >> there's a little bit of media mischief going on here. martin look, the shadow chancellor isn't comparing herself to margaret thatcher. what she is doing is she's talking about the late 1970s, a period that you and i know well, late 1970s, a period that you and i know well , because and i know well, because basically britain, the economy was on its knees. it was the winter of discontent. you had rubbish in the streets, you had a huge amount of industrial strike action. and what rachel reevesis strike action. and what rachel reeves is going to do tonight in her annual mays lecture, this is a lecture given in the city of london at the mansion house. lots of finery and so on, usually by a big figure from business, economics or a city of

london titan. every year, what she's going to be doing this evening is trying to convey the way that labour will be safe with the economy. the economy is safe in labour's hands , and safe in labour's hands, and she's talking about the late 19705 she's talking about the late 1970s because the late 1970s were were a period that sparked change. and in, of course, the 80s there were reforms and the economy eventually turned the corner. a lot of division in, a lot of heartache. so that's basically what she's trying to do. it's like a massive prawn cocktail offensive . that was cocktail offensive. that was what happened in the mid—nineties when tony blair and gordon brown and other new labour in opposition labour denizens in opposition went round the city, went round businesses and said, look, we know that labour has wrecked the economy in the past, but the economy in the past, but the economy is safe in our hands. so she's not going to be talking specifics tonight. i've got a little on the money graphic, because it wouldn't be on the money graphic , would money without a graphic, would it? know you feel it? martin, i know you feel short don't short changed and we don't want to change so let's to short change you, so let's have rachel

have a look at what rachel reeves actually say. she's reeves will actually say. she's going talking about going to be talking about growth. the growth. that's growth of the economy is achieved through stability. worth saying stability. it's worth saying that labour have backed all the tories budget measures , as they tories budget measures, as they were in chancellor jeremy hunt's were in chancellorjeremy hunt's budget earlier this month, including those tax cuts. the reduction of the headline rate of national insurance for employers , for employees, employers, for employees, apologies from 10 to 8. labour's backing those somewhat controversial . some may think controversial. some may think the shadow chancellor wants more power for the office for budget responsibility. now the office for budget responsibility is a bunch of economists in whitehall who make forecasts which seem to have taken on the status of holy writ. some people, including me, think that those forecasts really box in the ministers and mean that they can't cut taxes as and when they want to. i think a lot of people will think that's a bit controversial . she that's a bit controversial. she wants to make the obr even more powerful and also the shadow chancellor says rather than

sacking the permanent secretary of the treasury, which is what liz truss did when she came into office, rachel reeves says she's going strengthen the growth going to strengthen the growth unit at h.m. going to strengthen the growth unit at hm. treasury. what's the growth unit ? it's a bunch of the growth unit? it's a bunch of economists in the treasury who focus on proposals to promote economic growth, growing the pie so each of us can have a bigger slice rather than focusing, as some of us suspected of the treasury sometimes rather than focusing on ways to extract more tax from households and firms. so look, very few specifics. i think , in tonight's mays lecture think, in tonight's mays lecture from rachel reeves, labour don't want to give us specifics, because if they do, if they come up with, exact policies, the likes of you and me will scrutinise them and raise difficult points. the government might even nick them, as the government did. labour's policy to strengthen the tax regime around wealthy, so—called non—domiciled foreigners. the non—domiciled foreigners. the non—dom taxes living in the uk. certainly the government pinched

that policy from labour, so there'll be few specifics . lots there'll be few specifics. lots of mood music, basically a rerun of mood music, basically a rerun of the mid—'nineties prawn cocktail offensive. so we can expect some very big crustaceans in the city of london this evening. as rachel reeves, shadow chancellor reaches out, as it were. no, she's not a member of the four tops, but she'll be reaching out anyway to people in the city of london business audience across the country saying the economy will be safe in labour's hands and you can trust us with their country and we're going to win the general election. that's what she's going to say. >> liam halligan superb stuff. prawn and the four prawn cocktails and the four tops. that sounds like a party. i'd to go to. at any rate, i'd like to go to. at any rate, liam halligan always a pleasure. thank you very much. i guess the big question is, how do they fund with £2.6 trillion fund all this with £2.6 trillion in for another in debt? that's for another time. liam halligan, thanks for joining show . now, joining us on the show. now, don't forget in just a few minutes time, nigel farage has been speaking to donald trump in florida we will be joined by

florida and we will be joined by our very own nigel for his take very soon. i'll be very spoon soon. i'll be speaking to nigel farage directly after this. live and directly after this. live and direct from florida. but first it's direct from florida. but first wsfime direct from florida. but first it's time for your latest news headunes it's time for your latest news headlines with polly middlehurst i >> -- >> the top stories this hour. former us president donald trump has fired a warning shot at nato , saying it's time to pay up in a gb news exclusive, he spoke to nigel farage and he sent a clear message to nato member countries should we guard these these countries that have a lot of money? >> and the united states was paying >> and the united states was paying for most of nato . and paying for most of nato. and when i went there and i already had it out with them and now they stop paying again, but now they're because of those they're paying because of those comments 2 or comments that you saw 2 or 3 weeks . weeks ago. >> and you can see that full interview on farage tonight from 7:00 right here. jp news now, the first person in england and

wales to be convicted of cyberflashing has been jailed. nicholas hawks, sentenced to 66 weeks for sending unsolicited , weeks for sending unsolicited, explicit photographs to a teenager and a woman . the 39 teenager and a woman. the 39 year old, from basildon in essex, was already a convicted sex offender when he the sex offender when he sent the images and the prince of wales has been visiting housing initiatives in sheffield to promote his homelessness project. the future king spoke to landlords and the local authority to see how his venture could help ease pressure on councils, and the outing comes after the sun newspaper published pictures and a video of prince william with his wife , of prince william with his wife, the princess of wales, at a farm shop near their home in windsor on saturday. it follows weeks of social speculation social media speculation surrounding the health and whereabouts princess whereabouts of princess catherine. those are your latest stories. for the top stories , do stories. for the top stories, do sign up for gb news alerts. scan that qr code on your screen right now or go to gb news. common alerts .

common alerts. >> thank you very much, polly. now don't go anywhere. don't even put the kettle on. because in just a few minutes , i'll be in just a few minutes, i'll be joined live by nigel farage after his world exclusive interview with donald trump. i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel

welcome back. it's 436. i'm martin daubney. this is gb news. well, coming up, i'll tell you why. some three lions fans aren't happy some three lions fans aren't happy with the new england football and i'm one of football kit. and i'm one of them. but now it's finally time. for moment, we've all been for the moment, we've all been waiting for. joined now by for the moment, we've all been waiimainyr. joined now by for the moment, we've all been waiimain man joined now by for the moment, we've all been waiimain man himself,�*|ow by for the moment, we've all been waiimain man himself, nigely the main man himself, nigel farage. nigel, welcome to the show. just seeing a sneak preview of you talking with donald trump about nato. really

getting the juices flowing, about how trump was on form and holding no punches. as you'd expect , the nato issue, nigel, expect, the nato issue, nigel, is massive. tell us about it. >> the nato issue is huge. you see, he made this comment at a rally a few weeks ago where he said, look, people don't pay the 2. if people don't pay the membership russia can membership fee, then russia can just do what the hell it likes. that taken by all those that has been taken by all those in favour of the european union. all the globalists . and they've all the globalists. and they've all said, you know, from people like malcolm rifkind, former like malcolm rifkind, the former foreign secretary, right the way through, saying through, and people are saying are right. so if trump wins america, pull out of nato. so we must have a full european defence union , some even talking defence union, some even talking about the eu having its own nuclear weapons . and i was so nuclear weapons. and i was so worried about this. if there was one thing i wanted to get from this interview , it was a clear, this interview, it was a clear, definitive answer from trump on where he really stood on nato and in particular, american

leadership of it. and he's absolutely clear that when he makes those comments, they are a negotiating tactic . that's what negotiating tactic. that's what he does. read the book the art of the deal. it's all there. but i asked him, you know, what would happen if poland was invaded? and he said, look , you invaded? and he said, look, you see, provided everyone's paid their money, we are with you 100. and i hope that puts to bed some of these ridiculous stories that have been put out. and i hope we have a much deeper think ourselves to hope we have a much deeper think ourselwe to hope we have a much deeper think ourselwe getting to hope we have a much deeper think ourselwe getting involved which we are getting involved with european defence treaties. >> and nigel, this kind of brinksmanship is what we saw from donald trump in the first time around. you get a flavour, having been up close and personal, looking him in the eyes, spending time with him off camera, we're going to get the same, bells on. if he same, but with bells on. if he gets for a second time. gets back in for a second time. >> oh, i think trump 2.0 will be quite something. he will be up inhibited. he will also. then here's the real difference. he'll have a team of experienced professionals around him, which

he did not have in january 2017 when he first walked into the white house. the whole feel of the trump operation, the whole buzz at mar a lago, it's so much more professional than anything he's ever done before. and you know what? at the moment he's winning and winning big. and particularly you at the key winning and winning big. and parti7|larly you at the key winning and winning big. and parti7 states'ou at the key winning and winning big. and parti7 states that at the key winning and winning big. and parti7 states that willit the key winning and winning big. and parti7 states that will decide ey 6 or 7 states that will decide who wins the presidency. he's now nearly now comfortably ahead in nearly all of them. so yeah, you know, despite massive fines being imposed from new york and all these different court cases that he's facing, despite everything, his resilience and optimism, it really is quite extraordinary. and nigel, barack obama was in downing street yesterday, of course , the last time he was course, the last time he was here, he was telling brexiteers will be at the back of the queue, did donald trump give any indication of what he might be like if he was working with sir keir starmer, if sir keir starmer were to get in as prime minister in britain? yeah >> well i did ask that question. i did say that it's, you know, odds on big time that keir

starmer will be in number 10, and trump made it clear there's been no communication of any kind between him and the starmer camp. and my worry really is not so much starmer, but it's frankly david lammy. if david lammy carries on from being the shadow foreign secretary the full job, you know, he has said that trump is a woman hating neo—nazi now. quite difficult, isn't it , to do business when isn't it, to do business when you've said something as highly abusive as that? and this is why ikeep abusive as that? and this is why i keep making this point, and everyone thinks it's me offering myself for the job. but we're going to need an ambassador in washington with a labour government that can have a proper conversation and act as an intermediary between the two governments, and we need somebody who's not your standard oxbridge foreign office type, someone actually knows someone that actually knows trump and can do the right thing. >> and nigel, that brings me neatly onto my next question. we've had a lot of emails in here asking about if you're going to work for donald trump.

christine here says this. nigel in florida , it makes me very in florida, it makes me very nervous. we need nigel back in britain to save our country . britain to save our country. >> well, look, it keeps the newspapers amused , doesn't it? newspapers amused, doesn't it? you know, some of them write that i could be britain's ambassador to washington. others write be trump's write i could be trump's ambassador to london. others say, i'm coming back into frontline politics, martin, i'm just a humble broadcaster. merely going about my life. and if people want to have fun speculating , well, good for them. >> yeah. you're being very humble there. looking very dapper as well, i've got to say, in the sunglasses poolside there, i want to ask you one final question. people talk about the mental competency of joe biden lot . and the biden joe biden a lot. and the biden campaign tried to spin this back onto donald trump. up close, up personal is this a guy you think is ready to rule america for? >> you know, in some ways he looks fitter and healthier than he back in 2016. you

he did way back in 2016. you know, a guy approaching know, for a guy approaching 78, he looks really well. he's shed weight from time as weight from his time as president. he is he is absolutely fit and mentally well. he might make the odd mistake. who doesn't? we do martin with our job. we all make martin with ourjob. we all make the odd mistake. joe biden makes several every day. that's a very, difference . trump very, very big difference. trump is as fit as i've ever seen him. superb >> sir nigel farage, thank you so much for taking time out to join us. i know you're incredibly busy of course incredibly busy and of course that show that exclusive is on your show tonight, 7 pm. you will not want to miss thank you. want to miss it. thank you. nigel farage. there it is. you will not want this. will not want to miss this. nigel farage exclusive interview with trump be with donald trump will be live on gb news from 7:00 this evening. you will only get it here. and what's more, he's actually said trump. he won't speak to other british media and let's see how that makes them react in the mainstream media. they'll be clutching their pearls that one. no doubt. pearls over that one. no doubt. now england's new kits for the upcoming euro 2024 tournament. well it's already divided three

lions fans. it looks great from the front, but wait till you see the front, but wait till you see the backside. not of aidan mcgivern, not of aidan magee even, but of that kit. i've been joined by a sports journalist to get his take on it. next aidan magee is with me . get his take on it. next aidan magee is with me. i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's news

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news channel. >> welcome back. it's 446. i'm martin daubney and this is gb news now. 5:00. i'll bring you our world exclusive interview with donald trump . and of with donald trump. and of course, he's been talking to nigel farage and he's got a warning for nato. shots fired . warning for nato. shots fired. and now england have unveiled their football kits for the upcoming euro 2024 tournament. and they have already divided fans of the three lions. whilst many people approve of the retro style of england's home kit , the style of england's home kit, the so—called dark raisin, a waist strip has raised more than a few eyebrows, with many fans questioning the colour scheme and the decision. the controversial decision . this is controversial decision. this is the one that stuck in my craw. viewers to change the colours of saint george's flag on the back of the collar, and there's also outrage at the sheer cost of the new shirts. for the average england fan, with even the basic shirt set to set you back £85 for adults. and it's even more

for adults. and it's even more for the full replica shirt. the kit that's worn on the pitch itself. well, let's discuss this further now with sports broadcaster and journalist aidan magee aiden . welcome to the magee aiden. welcome to the studio. always a pleasure. now a new kit is always a moment that fans obsess over, and from the front it looks like a corker. it's retro. it ticks a lot of boxes. >> you think it's 86? >> you think it's 86? >> i think more italia 90. but either way, it's a good doff to that , to that kind of that, to that kind of traditional look. no one's really i'm bit really done it since i'm a bit concerned about this obsession really done it since i'm a bit concerretro, bout this obsession really done it since i'm a bit concerretro, there his obsession about retro, there comes a point. love retro shirts . point. we all love retro shirts. of course we do. each club has got a that really sticks in got a kit that really sticks in their for one. this their mind for this one. this season, your team, they've gone back the late 70s back to the 1970, the late 70s look when they won european look when they won the european cup course, look when they won the european cup you've course, look when they won the european cup you've mentioned|rse, look when they won the european cup you've mentioned once which you've mentioned once or twice in my company. however, i just were original just think those were original designs, some at some point 40 years on, you've got to come up with some originality yourself. this design. with some originality yourself. thiswell design. with some originality yourself. thiswell done design. with some originality yourself. thiswell done , design. with some originality yourself. thiswell done , but design. with some originality yourself. thiswell done , but idesign. with some originality yourself. thiswell done , but i sometimes it's well done, but i sometimes think that we are stuck. what's what's the cycle in 20 what's next in the cycle in 20 years time, you know, do we go back to retro the retro? i

back to a retro of the retro? i mean, seems a bit mean, it just seems a bit strange in terms strange to me. but in terms of the being the the george cross being on the back, colour, know back, the wrong colour, you know what? sometimes these these are these are gimmicks. these are to drive they are to get drive coverage. they are to get attention, particularly now in the social media era, to make people look at it. because i'll tell you why. changing tell you why. england changing their , or indeed any club their kit, or indeed any club changing their kit is not the big it to be big deal that it used to be newcastle united in the 80s newcastle united back in the 80s in, because of the fact that unemployment was in the unemployment was high in the area. change their area. they used to change their kit you kit every three years. so if you bought could bought it in 1984, you could keep it until 1987. most clubs around the country change theirs every two years. nowadays you're changing it every single year. i think the last club to retain their kit for more than one season brentford, that their kit for more than one seasabout brentford, that their kit for more than one seasabout twozntford, that their kit for more than one seasabout two yearsi, that their kit for more than one seasabout two years ago, that their kit for more than one seasabout two years ago, s0|at their kit for more than one seasabout two years ago, so it was about two years ago, so it doesn't it's not. doesn't happen often. it's not. it's not the it's a bit like it's bit like car it's a bit like car registrations. they registrations. you know, they used year. registrations. you know, they uswas year. registrations. you know, they uswas a year. registrations. you know, they uswas a big year. registrations. you know, they uswas a big thing. year. registrations. you know, they uswas a big thing. wantedar. it was a big thing. you wanted the they the latest reg. then they started doing it twice a year. there of impact. so there was less of an impact. so you catching, you need something eye catching, something i something a talking point. and i think back of think this flag on the back of the falls the shirt certainly falls into that category. >> to try and >> yeah, we're going to try and get up moment. get that image up in a moment. but screen now but you can see on screen now all who listening all those who are listening in

on the shirt on gb news radio, the away shirt , purple. england , it's purple. now. the england away be red. it's away kit should be red. it's always been red. or at least the second kit. now this either to me looks like a quality street or worse , the french away. or worse, the french away. >> we like those quality streets though, don't we? we want to walk like giant walk around like a giant chocolate. no, no. certainly not. england shirt, the not. not the england shirt, the away shirt. >> the classic, beautiful 1966 world cup winning. it's red. it should be red. why are should always be red. why are they messing with the winning formula? >> you know they might >> you know what? they might actually one actually bring out a red one nearer tournament. nearer the tournament. it's happened where? it all happened before where? it all depends how it sells martin. that's thing that's the that's the key thing here. and that brings us on to the £84 for the basic the price £84 for the basic shirt you're buying. shirt that you're buying. high street . and then street sports shop. and then after that, if you're the one that's by same that's actually made by the same material that the players wear, might on might have a few badges on it, it have you know, it might have a few, you know, it might have a few, you know, it might have a few, you know, it might it might be a bit more breathable. then that one will set big set you back about £125. the big misnomer about football kits, though, is that they're all sold misnomer about football kits, th

the 40, i would the age of 40, i would suggest. and that's why the italia 90 and so that's why the italia 90 straight 86 design is straight mexico 86 design is going prove popular. going to prove popular. >> with old >> ticking a box with the old boys a bit like myself, but i wouldn't. not the wouldn't. i would not buy the shirt. try and shirt. i just want to try and get they've get that image because they've changed the saint george's flag on collar . the on the back of the collar. the down still red, but down stripe is still red, but the is a weird the cross stripe is a weird purple and blue hybrid . it's not purple and blue hybrid. it's not the saint george's cross. why on earth would they change that? to my knowledge, no football club internationally has ever changed their flag on a football shirt. what they playing at? what are they playing at? >> well, i think going back to we mentioned it off air didn't we. i think london 2012 the, the union flag was changed colour then just experimented union flag was changed colour then it. just experimented union flag was changed colour then it. just exp really|ted union flag was changed colour then it. just exp really had around it. nobody really had a problem with it then. i'm not sure. i'm sure. martin that sure. i'm not sure. martin that just on the back of the shirt it's going to make that much difference. see on it's going to make that much diffifront.. see on it's going to make that much diffifront. you see on it's going to make that much diffifront. you see see on it's going to make that much diffifront. you see more; on it's going to make that much diffifront. you see more of on it's going to make that much diffifront. you see more of the the front. you see more of the front the player front of the shirt of the player than back . than you do on the back. certainly when you're wearing it, mirror, it, when you look in the mirror, it's front see, it's the front that you see, isn't still, they >> okay. but still, they shouldn't >> okay. but still, they shou|can quickly about flag. can we quickly talk about something very painful to me? nottingham forest been deducted four steve my producer,

four points. steve my producer, he's everton, he's had even worse ten points. >> my qpr team got for, for >> my qpr team got done for, for ffp back in i think it was 20, 18, £40 million. so it seems to be the smaller clubs that are suffering. so i mean i'm not saying forest's and everton saying that forest's and everton are but they're are small clubs, but they're small the the are small clubs, but they're smesix. the the are small clubs, but they're smesix. so the the are small clubs, but they're smesix. so look, the the are small clubs, but they're smesix. so look, nottinghame top six. so look, nottingham forest knew the rules. they gambled to get up. i think long term being in the premier league over seasons and over a couple of seasons and even if they manage to even 3 or 4, if they manage to stay season, stay up this season, i don't think be looking back think they'll be looking back at this time and this in a few years time and seeing the that are seeing that the points that are made difference. made are much difference. if they the they stay up this season, the problem however problem just goes away. however i ask they had no i would ask why they had no sponsor that just sponsor for a season. that just seems foolhardy thing seems a really foolhardy thing to think another to do. i can't think of another club not club in recent times who've not had sponsor, even a had a sponsor, even just for a few not often few months. not not very often in era anyway in the premier league era anyway . brendan johnson, they're selling for £47 million. selling him for £47 million. they could have got more they could have got way more than tottenham. than that from from tottenham. so there's they so there's things they could have done. okay. >> now have >> so we do now have this offending picture of the back of the collar of new england the collar of the new england shirt. screen shirt. can we get that on screen now. see if you go in close there. is not the there. look that is not the saint george's flag. it's a

ridiculous hebrew. it saint george's flag. it's a ridiculous hebrew . it looks more ridiculous hebrew. it looks more like a kind of lgbtq combination of the saint george's flag. it's the same on the back of the collar . i the same on the back of the collar. i don't think that has any place on an england shirt. why change colour of the national? >> reminds me of it. me >> reminds me of it. reminds me of talbot logo from 1983. of the talbot logo from 1983. remember those really terrible cars be made over here? >> well, saying that deserves to be scrapped too. now might be scrapped too. now you might you might think. you might think i'm flags i'm overreacting, but flags should be sacrosanct. they matter to fans, i think matter to fans, and i think they've scored an own goal with this. >> a well, okay, what do you think front the think about the front of the badge? know, badge? i mean, you know, that's not terms not a traditional look in terms of are there, of the three lines are there, but be inside but it used to be inside a shield gemma. so, shield didn't it, gemma. and so, so there marketeers going so there is marketeers are going to and to experiment with designs and what's more what's a more concern to me is that we keep recycling old designs. there's nothing through. nothing new coming through. that would me would be more of concern to me than individual minor details, like the flag that you're suggesting. >> , shame, it looks good >> shame, shame, it looks good from the front and not from the back. and not for the first time. i've said that. aiden, back. and not for the first time.leave;aid that. aiden, back. and not for the first time.leave itd that. aiden, back. and not for the first time.leave it there. aiden, back. and not for the first time.leave it there. let's n, back. and not for the first time.leave it there. let's have let's leave it there. let's have a few emails to end this hour

before i lose my job. now, we've been talking a lot about rwanda . been talking a lot about rwanda. de, and gordon says this . i'm a de, and gordon says this. i'm a british citizen. can i please accept a free place to go to rwanda with a job, a house, free money, plenty of sunshine and a much better way of life than i've got here. you know, gordon, i've got here. you know, gordon, i think you make a great point there. getting three grand in cash, a free house for five years, guaranteed you years, guaranteed work, and you get away from this country. i think a lot of people might think a lot of people might think that has a benefit. donald says this. we need get rid of says this. we need to get rid of the house of lords discourses on rwanda as well. why do we let unelected people override our elected it's elected government? it's absolutely ludicrous. and donald totally agree. that's with huge echoes of brexit. and quickly tony says this are we heading for a reform tory coalition? i get behind that because reform would not be as weak as the lib dems. well, of course, richard tice said. there are going to be no deals. but of course politics is a funny old game . now stand

is a funny old game. now stand by for more from our world exclusive interview with donald trump. and of course, he's been talking nigel farage. and you talking to nigel farage. and you don't want to miss what he's had to say about it. nato and we just had a sneak preview of it there. farage spoke to us earlier, donald trump firing shots . i'm earlier, donald trump firing shots. i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel first show. whether this time it is mcgivern . is aidan mcgivern. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hi there. welcome to the latest gb news forecast from the met office. largely cloudy for the rest of the day, turning damp once again from the southwest, but it will stay mild in the south, although feeling colder further north. now. we've seen a weather front pass through overnight last night. next system coming along for overnight tonight with outbreaks of rain by the end of the

afternoon. pushing into the south—west of england, wales and then across many central and southern england before southern parts of england before turning up by midnight into northern ireland, southern scotland northern england . scotland and northern england. it does turn drier in the far south southeast, although south and southeast, although rather cloudy, ten celsius here by colder and clearer for by dawn. colder and clearer for the far north—west of scotland. such a frost possible, but in between a lot of cloud cover outbreaks of rain. some of this will be heavy across parts of wales and northern england. the rain does tend to peter out through the morning. it turns more showery, i think by the afternoon . but it does linger afternoon. but it does linger there across northern england into and parts of the into wales and parts of the south—west. the far south—east stays dry, with some bright spells and highs of 18 celsius. much fresher for scotland and northern ireland. after early rain it does clear up and there will be some sunshine, but temperatures will reach 9 or 10 celsius. a wetter and windier day to come for scotland and northern ireland on thursday. that rain pushing into the far northwest england wales that rain pushing into the far n0|the est england wales that rain pushing into the far n0|the end england wales that rain pushing into the far n0|the end offingland wales that rain pushing into the far n0|the end offingltday. wales that rain pushing into the far

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gb news. >> a very good afternoon to you. it's 5 pm. and welcome to the martin daubney show on news martin daubney show on gb news broadcasting live from the heart of westminster, all across the uk. today, we've got our world exclusive interview with donald trump. and you would not want to miss what he's had to say about nato. shots fired . stand by for nato. shots fired. stand by for that. and it's yet another tough day for that man. rishi sunak the prime minister some of his fellow tory mps are looking to replace him once again. surely we cannot have yet another

change of prime minister. and according to some newspapers , we according to some newspapers, we have a new james bond. so does aaron taylor—johnson fit the 007 bill? well, i'll be asking. a former bond girl that's all coming up in your next hour. welcome to the show. we've had a cracker so far and we've still got a wonderful hour to go . now, got a wonderful hour to go. now, nigel farage has been with donald trump in florida at his place. we had him on the show a minute ago poolside, and it seems an epic interview has occurred. the full interview will go out 7:00 tonight on the nigel farage show. we've got a sneak preview of what trump had to say about nato. and as nigel farage said, if you thought trump version one was fireworks, you wait for trump version two.

if he gets back into the white house on november the 5th, fireworks surely will be launched. but first, it's time for your latest news headlines with polly middlehurst . with polly middlehurst. >> thanks very much indeed, martin. good evening to you. well, our top story tonight, as you were hearing there from martin, the former us president donald trump fired a warning donald trump has fired a warning shot at nato members, saying it isfime shot at nato members, saying it is time to pay up in a gb news world exclusive interview , he world exclusive interview, he spoke to nigel farage and sent a clear message to nato member countries . countries. >> now, the massive debate back across the pond is nato. everyone is talking nato. every day, it was your comments about them, not paying enough, not paying them, not paying enough, not paying 2. and you said this back in 2017 and 18 when you were president, you visited brussels .

president, you visited brussels. you said it again recently. you made a comment. well the russians can do whatever they want. if these guys don't pay , want. if these guys don't pay, that's now being used. >> well, they can it. >> well, they can use it. i don't care if they use don't really care if they use it, because what i'm saying is that's negotiation , that's a form of negotiation, why should we guard these these countries that have a lot of money? and the united states was paying money? and the united states was paying for most of nato. and when i went there and i already had it out with them, and now they again , but now they stop paying again, but now they're paying because of those comments you saw 2 or 3 comments that you saw 2 or 3 weeks ago. don't if you weeks ago. i don't know if you know, of money's come weeks ago. i don't know if you kn since of money's come weeks ago. i don't know if you kn since comments's come weeks ago. i don't know if you kn since comments were ne in since those comments were made. you can see that full made. well you can see that full interview with the former us president donald trump on farage tonight from 7:00 right here on gb news, the first person to be convicted of cyber flashing in england and wales has been jailed today for 66 weeks. >> 39 year old nicholas hawks sent unsolicited, explicit photographs to a teenager and a woman. the justice secretary described the offence as a

distressing crime which can't be normalised, and said the sentence sends a clear message that the behaviour has severe consequences . his four people consequences. his four people have been hurt and a dog, believed to be an xl bully, has had to be shot by police in south london. and a warning for viewers the following does contain some distressing content. let's show you this video footage captured of the attack that happened in battersea just after 10:00 last night. a group of people desperately trying. if you're watching on television, you can see trying to stop that dog, one person throwing a blanket over it to stop it. the four it to try to stop it. the four victims taken to hospital it to try to stop it. the four victtreatmenttaken to hospital it to try to stop it. the four victtreatment foren to hospital it to try to stop it. the four victtreatment for non—life)ital for treatment for non—life threatening injuries, the met police saying a 22 year old man and a 21 year old woman have been arrested on suspicion of being the owner of a dog dangerously out of control . dangerously out of control. hundreds of jobs could be at risk , as high street fashion risk, as high street fashion retailer ted baker is set to be put into administration. authentic brands group , ted

authentic brands group, ted baker's brand owner, says damage done during a tie up with another firm was just too much to overcome. the no ordinary designer label company, which trades as ted baker, walked away from the deal in january after it claimed its partner had failed to meet its promise to inject cash into the business. ted baker has over 900 employees and 46 stores in the uk. britain faces a 1979 moment. the shadow chancellor will say in a speech tonight, as labour seeks to bnng tonight, as labour seeks to bring about a new chapter in britain's economic history, addressing finance leaders. this evening, rachel reeves is understood to be likening the challenge awaiting the next government to that faced by margaret thatcher. she made it clear she plans to reform the treasury if labour wins the general election. the shadow chief secretary to the treasury , chief secretary to the treasury, darren jones, outlined her plan . darren jones, outlined her plan. >> we are on the cusp of an opportunity in this country, an opportunity in this country, an opportunity for a decade of national renewal where we can get into our

get growth back into our economy, make people better off and the page on 14 and start to turn the page on 14 years of failure from the conservatives. if labour is to win the election later this yean win the election later this year, worst year, it will be the worst fiscal inheritance that any party's had since the second world that's why we world war. and that's why we talk about a of national talk about a decade of national renewal. there will be some things do immediately, things we can do immediately, and public services are obviously priorities . obviously one of our priorities. >> the first minister of wales has delivered resignation has delivered his resignation speech after facing questions in the senate for the final time today. he says he's now looking forward to life on the backbenches. mark drakeford, who is stepping down after five years in the job, was emotional as he talked about how difficult last been for me last year has been for me personally the last 12 months has been the hardest and the saddest of my life and people will not see beyond the chamber. >> those small acts of kindness that happen every day from people in every part of this

chamber that help someone to get through those very, very difficult times. >> mark drakeford speaking there from earlier on. now britain's roads are at breaking point as pothole numbers reach an eight year high. a report found just 47% of local road miles were being rated as good, 36 were adequate and 17% poor. the asphalt industry alliance says councils were expected to fix 2 million potholes in the current financial year. that's up 43% on the previous year and the highest annual total since 2015 to 16. and today the prince of wales has been visiting housing initiative in sheffield to promote his homelessness project. the future king spoke to landlords and local authorities to see how his homeward venture could help ease pressure on councils. the outing comes after the sun published pictures and a video of prince william with his wife, the princess of wales, at a farm shopin

princess of wales, at a farm shop in windsor on saturday, following weeks of social media speculation surrounding the health and even the whereabouts of princess catherine. for the very latest stories, do sign up to gb news alerts. scan the qr code on the screen right now or go to gb news alerts go to gb news .com/ alerts. >> thank you polly. superb stuff . now of course, there's only one place to start and that's with our huge or even huge interview with the former us president donald trump. and he's fired a warning shot at nato, saying it's time to pay a gb news exclusive . trump spoke to news exclusive. trump spoke to nigel farage and he sent a clear message to member countries. >> now, the massive debate back across the pond is nato . across the pond is nato. everyone is talking nato every day . it was everyone is talking nato every day. it was your comments about them not paying enough, not

paying them not paying enough, not paying 2. and you said this back in 2017 and 18 when you were president, you visited brussels. you said it again recently. you made a comment, well, the russians can do whatever they want. if these guys don't pay , want. if these guys don't pay, that's now being used. >> well, they can use i >> well, they can use it. i don't really care if they use it, because what i'm saying is that's negotiation . that's a form of negotiation. then why should we guard these these countries that have a lot of money? and the united states was paying for most of nato. and when i went there and i already had it out with and now had it out with them, and now they but now they stop paying again. but now they're paying because of those comments you saw 2 or 3 comments that you saw 2 or 3 weeks ago. i don't you weeks ago. i don't know if you know, money's come know, but a lot of money's come in those were in since those comments were made. was not paying. made. so nato was not paying. and i said, well, the united states, they take advantage of the us on trade like crazy. you know , as bad as almost anybody. know, as bad as almost anybody. and then on top of it, know, as bad as almost anybody. and then on top of it , the nato and then on top of it, the nato would largely similar countries, the countries , nato, they the same countries, nato, they weren't paying their bills. and i went to the first meeting and i went to the first meeting and i saw that i didn't want to do

it. my first meeting, i just got there, the first there, but i went to the first meeting early my meeting early in my administration, meeting early in my admgoing tion, meeting early in my admgoing on, , meeting early in my admgoing on, and i said, you're was going on, and i said, you're going to have pay bills. going to have to pay your bills. everybody. and the second meeting, hard and the meeting, i hit him hard and the question was asked by the head of a major country in front of everyone else, 28 countries at the they the time, including us. they said . so if we don't pay our said. so if we don't pay our bills, are you going to protect us from russia? i said, you mean you're delinquent? you're not paying you're delinquent? you're not paying the bills? yes. nope. i'm not going to pay you. we're not going to do it. we're not going to if not to defend you if you're not paying to defend you if you're not paying bills , we're not paying your bills, we're not going you. very going to defend you. it's very simple. of billions simple. and hundreds of billions of dollars came flowing in. now, if i say yes , i am, they're not if i say yes, i am, they're not going bills. going to pay their bills. why would that ? would they do that? >> well, there we go. shots fired . and indeed, i spoke to fired. and indeed, i spoke to nigel farage around 30 minutes ago. and here's his take on trump's warning shot to nato chiefs . chiefs. >> it was huge. you see, he made this comment at a rally a few weeks ago where he said, look, people don't pay the 2. if

people don't pay the 2. if people don't pay the 2. if people don't pay the membership fee, can just do fee, then russia can just do what the hell it likes. that has been by all those in been taken by all those in favour of the european union. all the globalists . and they've all the globalists. and they've all said, you know, from people like malcolm the former like malcolm rifkind, the former foreign secretary, right the way through, saying through, and people are saying are right. so if trump wins america, out of nato. so we america, pull out of nato. so we must have a full european defence union , some even talking defence union, some even talking about the eu having its own nuclear weapons . and i was so nuclear weapons. and i was so worried about this. if there was one thing i wanted to get from this interview , it was a clear, this interview, it was a clear, definitive answer from trump on where he really stood on nato and in particular, american leadership of it. and he's absolutely clear that when he makes those comments, they are a negotiating tactic . that's what negotiating tactic. that's what he does. read the book the art of the deal. it's all there. but i asked him, you know, what would happen if poland was invaded? and he said, look , you invaded? and he said, look, you see, provided everyone's paid their money, we are with you

100. and i hope that puts to bed some of these ridiculous stories that have been put out. and i hope we have a much deeper think ourselves the extent ourselves about the extent to which involved which we are getting involved with european treaties . with european defence treaties. >> well, it's an absolutely fascinating encounter. and donald trump's also warned prince harry that he could be kicked out of america if he becomes the president of america again. and harry is being investigated over whether he lied, of course, in his visa application after admitting in his autobiography spare, that he previously taken drugs, and trump spoke to nigel farage about harry and meghan's behaviour affected the late queen. >> she, you know, i would say although she wouldn't show it because she was strong and smart, but i would imagine they broke her heart to things that they were saying were so bad and so horrible and, she was in her 90s and hearing this stuff . i 90s and hearing this stuff. i think they broke her heart. it was horrible. i think they really hurt her very bad.

>> he's if lied >> but if he's if he's lied on his form, doesn't his visa form, he doesn't doesn't, doesn't the truth need to come well, mean, to come out? well, i mean, should special privileges should he get special privileges that else does? that nobody else does? >> have see >> no. and we'll have to see if they know something about the drugs. have drugs. and if he lied, i'll have to appropriate action. to take appropriate action. >> appropriate action? yeah. which not staying in america. >> you'll have to tell me. you just have to tell me you would. you would have thought they would this a long would have known this a long time ago. you would. but i thought very thought they were very disrespectful , to disrespectful to the family, to the i'm a big fan disrespectful to the family, to th> it's almost unbelievable. >> it's almost unbelievable. >> and that's donald trump. they're pouring praise upon the late queen and pouring scorn on prince harry. believe me, you do not want to miss this interview. nigel farage has exclusive interview with donald trump will be on gb news from 7:00 be live on gb news from 7:00 this evening, just under two hours time. do not miss it.

don't even put the kettle on. i'm joining the studio by our political editor, christopher hope. chris, let's just take some reaction to that. an extraordinary spectacle if you think about it. and what's fascinating about it, apart from the content, is that donald trump has been quite clear that he doesn't want to talk to other british media outlets. the sky news, bbc, he's talking to gb news and without blowing our own trumpets . quite a moment. trumpets. quite a moment. >> yeah, here's a moment. the second big interview he's done nigel was nigel farage, i think i was struck the close relationship struck by the close relationship between clearly trump and farage. there's a report in the weekend, mail on sunday i thought was interesting about that. farage, know, open that. farage, you know, is open to an idea of being a link person between the next government, labour or tory, and the donald trump administration in, in the old days, back in december 2016, i wrote stories for the telegraph . then, when it for the telegraph. then, when it was pretty clear some people in

government wanted him to be the new uk ambassador america, to new uk ambassador to america, to try and cement that kind of bond between and almost cement the special relationship between trump tories never came special relationship between trlpass. tories never came special relationship between trlpass. unlikelyyries never came special relationship between trlpass. unlikely toes never came special relationship between trlpass. unlikely to happen came to pass. unlikely to happen again, but i wonder whether trump say to farage, you have to tell me what to do about harry. will he become an unofficial adviser on the special relationship, almost a kind of person in the way of that, of that kind of busy diplomatic lines between washington and london? and that could be a real problem if that happens for london. >> i asked nigel about that. i said, been a lot of said, there's been a lot of speculation about you being an interim ambassador. interim an ambassador. call it what between the uk and what you like between the uk and the usa. and would keir starmer stand in the way of that? and i asked nigel what does, donald trump make of sir keir starmer. he said there's been absolutely no contact between the two regimes. not at all. >> there has been with >> i think there has been with joe biden's. i mean, that's quite a different quite normal. maybe a different a democrat president does talk to labour, of course, we have seen how a labour prime minister

can get close to a republican president. that happened with george w bush and tony blair, as we were discussing earlier with with so it can with john rentoul. so it can happen. and the happen. and often the requirements the special requirements to make the special relationship work, which essentially is about intelligence. big intelligence. that's the big thing. else is thing. forget everything else is intelligence supersedes intelligence that supersedes egos and whether the two principals get on. >> now, i asked nigel, if all of this meant that he would be getting a job with trump, and that might mean he won't be getting back involved with british politics. of course, he kept to his kept his cards close to his chest, as you'd expect, but people are a lot of emails on this topic, chris, reform polling at 14% today. we see 26 point differential. now between the conservative party and the labour party, seven point differential between the reform and the tory party. >> and that's the one to watch this idea crossover. you this idea of crossover. you mentioned hayward mentioned to robert hayward earlier, happens, earlier, if that happens, what would uk's would it mean for reform uk's polling would and would reform crossovers. one that when reform becomes bigger than the tory party the polls , could that party and the polls, could that happen with nigel farage getting

party and the polls, could that happen wthe\iigel farage getting party and the polls, could that happen wthe gameiarage getting party and the polls, could that happen wthe game again getting party and the polls, could that happen wthe game again ?etting back into the game again? >> and of course, they might want, nigel farage to stay in america if you're in the conservative party. but once again , we're talking about again, we're talking about leadership challenges. now, again, we're talking about leade|you've|allenges. now, again, we're talking about leade|you've gotenges. now, again, we're talking about leade|you've got the s. now, again, we're talking about leade|you've got the scars, i, again, we're talking about leade|you've got the scars, the chris, you've got the scars, the t shirts, everything. how many times are these stories touted about? but do you think this one might have some meat on the bones? >> yeah, i didn't think so till this week. but ordinary people, >> yeah, i didn't think so till this wee mpsil ordinary people, >> yeah, i didn't think so till this wee mpsil ord aren't)eople, >> yeah, i didn't think so till this wee mpsil ord aren't normally ordinary mps who aren't normally the trouble makers are saying to me, this is going on. last night , a meeting of one of the so—called five tribes of the tory right. they met, they spent 45 minutes, not just the anything to do with policy , but anything to do with policy, but whether rishi sunak should be replaced leader, which replaced as their leader, which is . open is extraordinary. open conversation. 12 mps, know, conversation. 12 mps, you know, 2019 intake. what they're looking at, they're looking at this massive poll deficit. nothing has moved it. the efforts of the pm, mr sunak, he's had his conference speech in october, the king's speech in early early november , the autumn early early november, the autumn statement in november, the spnng statement in november, the spring budget last week, nothing

is budging. this this almost set in stone in hard cement. this 20 point lead for the labour party . point lead for the labour party. so they have replaced a leader. they can do it again. that's the temptation. it might seem. you can talk yourself doing can talk yourself into doing that. think in westminster, that. i think in westminster, but outside i'm not sure what viewers think . and viewers and listeners think. and robert hayward thought would robert hayward thought it would be mordaunt be ridiculous if penny mordaunt is the answer. what is the question? what they question? i mean, what they asking? maybe she can help beat beat labour. labour do fear her, but some of her values are at odds, i think, with some members of the tory party and certainly some right of the tory party. >> absolutely and quickly. we covered show the covered earlier in the show the new hate speech laws being brought the first. brought in on april the first. you couldn't make it up in scotland. people can be prosecuted for ten. the wrong kind of jokes. i believe you've got some information from us from street. got some information from us frorthat's street. got some information from us frorthat's right.treet. got some information from us frorthat's right.tr> that's right. i asked her the question the 345 question of that in the 345 briefing the pm's official briefing with the pm's official deputy official spokesman. she made very clear that this would deputy official spokesman. she marhappen:lear that this would deputy official spokesman. she marhappen in ar that this would deputy official spokesman. she marhappen in england1is would deputy official spokesman. she marhappen in england and'ould deputy official spokesman. she marhappen in england and wales, not happen in england and wales, this this new policy here in scotland. talked about

scotland. we talked about earlier with that, with that comedian tony in north comedian and with tony in north of , it would of the border, it would have a chilling of chilling effect on freedom of speech. made it speech. rishi sunak has made it very clear it is not for england and wales. >> so it would seem that scotland outlier scotland would be an outlier for these crime incidents. and these hate crime incidents. and j.k. rowling has spoken out today saying that she will continue to call trans women who are biological men, men . and she are biological men, men. and she said, come and get me if you want. so that's certainly going to be one to watch. chris hope, always pleasure. you always a pleasure. thank you very the very much forjoining us in the studio. more studio. now you get lots more from our world exclusive interview with donald trump on our . and thanks to you. our website. and thanks to you. gbnews.com is the fastest growing national news website in the country. it's got breaking news of brilliant news and all of the brilliant analysis you've come to expect from gb news. now it's time now for the great british giveaway and we've got a shopping spree, and we've got a shopping spree, a garden gadget bundle , and a garden gadget bundle, and £12,345. 1234 £5 in cash , tax £12,345. 1234 £5 in cash, tax free. and here's all the details

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>> join me. camilla tominey every sunday at 930. when i'll be interviewing the key players in british politics and taking them to task. this report basically says that he's not fit to stand trial with an upcoming election looming over westminster, now is the time for clear, honest answers. i agree, and that's precisely what i'll get . is he indecisive? get. is he indecisive? incompetent? that's the camilla tominey show at 930 every sunday on gb news, the people's channel on gb news, the people's channel, britain's election .

channel. >> welcome back. it's 524. i'm martin daubney and this is gb news. now later this hour, i'll be joined by a former bond girl to talk about who's been touted as the man who'll be the next double. oh seven now outgoing first minister of wales mark drakeford has held his final first minister's question session at the welsh parliament today and formally resigned from his position. he's stepping down after five years in that job and he's the man who, of course, who isn't without his controversy and let's cross now live to cardiff, where we're joined by our political correspondent, katherine catherine, katherine forster. catherine, welcome the show. we're just welcome to the show. we're just getting catherine up on the line at the moment. got to ask her, catherine. so drakeford gave his final address, bowing out. what do you think will be his legacy? how will he be remembered ? how will he be remembered? >> yes. well, he was very

popular here in wales for a long time. this country, of course, had the most draconian covid restrictions of them all. much, much stricter here in wales than they are around the rest of the country. and i think that's his legacy more than anything. but his popularity , although the his popularity, although the welsh public appealed, appeared to go along with that and be quite happy with those restrictions. his popularity really has waned in the last few months , first with the months, first with the notoriously controversial . 20 notoriously controversial. 20 mile per hour in urban areas, which was brought in in september , is beginning to be september, is beginning to be enforced. as of yesterday , many enforced. as of yesterday, many people bitterly upset about that and also, of course, the farmers protests that we've seen. but in mark drakeford's resignation speech, he basically said he was a socialist through and through.

he said that he tried to keep his promises to the people of wales and also thinking about future generations. he said that to be progressive, you basically , had to face opposition, that it wasn't easy. but referring to like the 20mph, he said that he thought ultimately people would look back and wonder what all the fuss had been about. he got quite emotional too. let's just take a little look at some of what he had to say. >> for me personally , the last >> for me personally, the last 12 months have been the hardest and the saddest of my life , and and the saddest of my life, and people will not see beyond the chamber, those small acts of kindness that happen every day from people in every part of this chamber that help someone to get through those very, very difficult times . difficult times. >> it was a very difficult year

for mark drakeford , for his for mark drakeford, for his beloved wife, passed away last year. beloved wife, passed away last year . he was, beloved wife, passed away last year. he was, and clearly does remain completely devastated by that and something that really has struck me here in the senate today is the difference, really, between the mood here and in westminster. of course, it's a day of farewells. it's a day of paying day of farewells. it's a day of paying tributes, but they sit in a circle. it's all very civilised. there's only 60 of these members of the senate. they all know each other. and i think that was brought home when the leader of the opposition, andrew rt davies of the conservatives, replied , died. conservatives, replied, died. and in his remarks he pointed out how kind mark drakeford had been to him when he'd been ill, and in fact, his voice broke as well. i don't think you could imagine a world in which rishi sunak and keir starmer paid tribute to each other and both

ended up in tears. but although the mood was very respectful, here amongst the public in cardiff, a little bit different, let's look at what some voters had to say to me a bit earlier. >> no, sorry , you don't know. he >> no, sorry, you don't know. he was too personal. >> he was all about what he believed . and, and i don't think believed. and, and i don't think that that's what the majority of the people believe, in the beginning, yes. but later on, i would say no. >> no . terrible job. absolutely. >> no. terrible job. absolutely. >> no. terrible job. absolutely. >> well, everything he's touched has turned to rubbish. >> health, education, road transport, rail transport. do i need to go on? i mean, it's all w0 i'se. woi'se. >> worse. >> it compared to all the other uk countries. >> it's dropped from middle of the league to the bottom of the league. >> i don't think he's done too much for the welsh people and the last thing with the 20 mile an hour limit, i think was the last straw. >> he's a sweet man.

last straw. >> he's a sweet man . he gives me >> he's a sweet man. he gives me my awards. i think he had a really hard year last year and i feel really bad for him as a person . i hope he enjoys his person. i hope he enjoys his retirement and he can enjoy as much as he can. given what was left . left. >> so some warm words there, but an awful lot of criticism too. now mark drakeford is writing to the king now to give his formal resignation. then tomorrow, his successor vaughan gething, will become the first minister of wales and the first black person to lead a european nation. that will be quite a moment worth saying. he is not without controversy either, because there's the issue of a £200,000 donation which came to his campaign from a company where the boss had been criminally convicted twice of polluting,

that it's alleged he lobbied for previously. a lot of bad feeling here. a lot of demands to give that money back, although i don't think that's going to be happening. but we will bring you more on that tomorrow. martin here on gb news in cardiff . here on gb news in cardiff. >> thank you very much. katherine forster live there in cardiff with the reaction to mark drakeford stepping down. sounds like voters, a lot of voters you spoke to there will be hoping he leaves office a bit quicker miles hour quicker than 20 miles an hour now. still to come before 5 pm. calm, vandalism ever be justified? well, a court has ruled someone's political beliefs cannot be used to justify such actions. but first, it's justify such actions. but first, wsfime justify such actions. but first, it's time for your headlines with polly middlehurst. >> the top stories this hour. the former us president donald trump has fired a warning shot at nato, saying it's time to

pay- at nato, saying it's time to pay. in a gb news exclusive, he spoke to nigel farage and sent a clear message to nato member countries. >> i said, we guard these these countries that have a lot of money and the united states was paying money and the united states was paying for most of nato. and when i went there and i already had it out with them, and now they paying again, but now they stop paying again, but now they're paying because of those comments they're paying because of those commeago . weeks ago. >> well, you can see that full interview on farage tonight right here on gb news from 7:00. hundreds of jobs could be at risk , as high street fashion risk, as high street fashion retailer ted baker is set to be put into administration. us owner authentic brands group says damage done during a tie up with another firm was too much to overcome. ted baker ted baker rather has over 900 employees and 46 stores in the uk , and the and 46 stores in the uk, and the prince of wales has visited housing initiatives in sheffield in yorkshire to promote his homelessness project . at the homelessness project. at the future, king spoke to landlords and the local authorities see

how his venture could help ease pressure on local councils. the outing comes after the sun published pictures and a video of prince william with his wife, the princess of wales , at a farm the princess of wales, at a farm shopin the princess of wales, at a farm shop in windsor at the weekend that follows weeks of speculation surrounding the health and the whereabouts health and even the whereabouts of princess catherine. those are the headlines for very the headlines for the very latest . do sign up to gb latest stories. do sign up to gb news alerts, scan the qr code on your or go to your screen or go to gbnews.com/alerts . gbnews.com/alerts. >> for a valuable legacy your family can own, gold coins will always shine bright . rosalind always shine bright. rosalind gold proudly sponsors the gb news financial report . news financial report. >> here's a quick snapshot of today's markets. the pound buying you $1.2725 and ,1.1715. the price of gold is £1,694.38 an ounce, and the ftse 100 closed today at 7738 points.

rosalind gold proudly sponsors the gb news financial report . the gb news financial report. >> thank you polly. now, a court has ruled that protesters can't use their beliefs as a form of for defence vandalism, while human rights activist peter tatchell will give me his take on that. he's just joined me in the studio. in fact , i'm martin the studio. in fact, i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel .

>> earlier on. >> earlier on. >> breakfast story is not about kate. you know, i think the goodwill is known by the public that we wish her well, and we're pleased to see i this pleased to see her. i think this is badly the press is about how badly the press office has handled this. from kensington palace's point of view, zero throughout whole thing. because fake photo fiasco >> because the fake photo fiasco should not have happened if

there had been good staff work , there had been good staff work, illegal immigration down. >> want people not >> we want to see people not making that crossing. and we do think that this bill will be a significant deterrent for people who would otherwise cross the channel. >> i have no faith in politicians or government to actually do anything at all now. i mean , it's 11 years this year. i mean, it's 11 years this year. i've been campaigning from six. >> it's breakfast on gb news. >> it's breakfast on gb news. >> welcome back. 538 i'm martin daubney this is gb news. before 6:00, i'll be joined in the studio by a former bond girl. after the next man set to play the famous spy has today been identified . but before that, identified. but before that, senior judges have confirmed the protesters do not gain a free pass to cause criminal damage on the basis of the belief that their victims support their cause. now, judges have ruled that political beliefs and other

motivations for protests are too remote to be a lawful excuse, whereas the time, place and extent of the damage and the fact that it occurred during a protest could be circumstances for a line of defence. well, to make sense of that and to pick over it. joining me now in the studio human rights studio is human rights campaigner peter campaigner and activist peter tatchell. to tatchell. peter, welcome to studio. always a pleasure to have you on the channel. what this ruling is trying to say, for example, if you believe that, colston was a slave dnven that, colston was a slave driver, you decide to pull down the statue, that's not okay. except, peter, that's not what happenedin except, peter, that's not what happened in the court of law. so at present, your political stance, in a sense, can get you off. well i think normally i would be opposed to any form of criminal damage. >> that's not the way, the right way to do politics. >> but there may be some very limited circumstances where it may be morally justified. >> so for example, some years

ago a group of protesters damaged , the uk aeroplanes that damaged, the uk aeroplanes that were destined to be sent to indonesia to bomb the people of east timor and west papua, and they were acquitted because the jury they were acquitted because the jury ruled that the higher cause of international law and human rights overrode the damage they caused . and i think that was the caused. and i think that was the right judgement. equally, if a big industrial plant is polluting a local community, causing damage, particularly the young kids health, if they won't listen to reason, if they won't stop, then i think , you know, stop, then i think, you know, doing damage to that industrial plant children's health plant to save children's health may be morally justified, but that law none of that is justifiable. >> this new law, except peter, we still see too much, ambiguity , too many grey areas, for example, around things like clambering on war memorials or spraying racist on the winston churchill statue just outside there at parliament square . there at parliament square. they're not just statues, are they? they are. they aren't just

things. they have a resonance. and maybe that's why they're targeted. and so therefore, maybe we this new ruling is long overdue. it should take political views, excuses away and should it go further and take those views into account. if you specifically target something because you know it will cause extreme offence , like will cause extreme offence, like churchill, like the cenotaph, maybe that should its own maybe that should be its own special offence. >> well, i think you're right that people have to be very careful about how they protest the methods they use. that has to be really carefully calibrated and, you know, doing something that's going to be grossly offensive is not only putting them in the firing line, but it's actually going to be counterproductive because people but it's actually going to be count

peaceful, non—violent acts, as of i, entirely peaceful and non—violently, but against the law . and like them, i was always law. and like them, i was always willing to take the consequences . i believed about something so strongly that i was prepared to get arrested, get convicted, and, if necessary, go to prison . and, if necessary, go to prison. >> to make your point. now we're seeing on screen peter, seeing on screen there, peter, images just stop oil images of just stop oil protesters slashing up paintings , smashing glass. we saw them chiselling the fronts of banks in the city, causing huge amounts of financial and criminal damage. they got away with it for a long time , but with it for a long time, but then they clamped down. and guess what? just oil guess what? the just stop oil protests basically just got stopped when law came down. stopped when the law came down. so clearly there is public appetite to clamp down on this kind of stuff. >> well, not too sure exactly what the public think, because i think of people would, think a lot of people would, would just a boil would object. well just a boil of lost the but but of surely lost the room. but but but think about but but just to think about this, nasa's projections on climate destruction suggest that

by about 2050 or maybe even a bit earlier, large parts of london will flood due to sea level rises and storm surges. >> that's a separate point. the point where we're talking about here is , irrespective of what here is, irrespective of what you irrespective of you may believe, irrespective of the cause, the outcomes of this new rule says it's not cricket to go around vandalising things because you to a because you want to make a political that's what political point. that's what this is saying. >> accept what >> yeah, i accept that's what they're saying, but i'm questioning whether it is right, the right judgement because you know , large parts of most of know, large parts of most of east and south london are east london and south london are going to be regularly under water. people are going to lose their homes , their jobs, the area. >> that's a doomsday scenario . >> that's a doomsday scenario. and they've been saying, you know, don't forget in the 1970s, it's constant ice age. >> yeah, well, i sort of respect age. >> yeethey're i sort of respect age. >> yeethey're a sort of respect age. >> yeethey're a prettyf respect nasa. they're a pretty respected, scientific, grounded institution . they are warning institution. they are warning that we need to take action. otherwise these could be the consequences. and other british cities are going to follow similar, similar problems. >> so back just oil >> so back to just stop oil because that's tangible. people can get that. do think it's

can get that. do you think it's acceptable to smash up paintings, slash up paintings of former prime ministers because you think fossil fuels are a bad thing? or is this rule right? that should stop . that should stop. >> well, i wouldn't do it. but i look back to the suffragettes . look back to the suffragettes. the suffragettes are hailed as heroes now, they of heroes now, but they did all of those things and they're lauded, lauded today . now, you know, lauded today. now, you know, what we think now is wrong . may what we think now is wrong. may in hindsight not be seen as so wrong, given often the positive changes that some forms of protest have have achieved. and i'd say this, you know, yes , i'd say this, you know, yes, under no circumstances anyone do criminal damage wilfully or negligently without good, really strong reasons . negligently without good, really strong reasons. but if you do it, you have to be prepared to take the consequences , which take the consequences, which i've always done in my protest when i've broken the law. i've said , okay, i've the law, said, okay, i've broken the law, i'm prison. i'm prepared to go to prison. >> good. okay. >> good. okay. >> well, thanks for coming in, peter points . peter tatchell. fabulous points. well made. great to have you in the . still to come,

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>> the neal of a show sundays from 6 pm. on . gb news. from 6 pm. on. gb news. >> now the name's daubney martin daubney lies to present a tv show that got a laugh. if nothing else . and one of the big nothing else. and one of the big stories today is that it looks like the new james bond has finally been identified. apparently it's aaron taylor—johnson. the 33 year old british star is reportedly set to replace daniel craig as the next actor to play the fictional spy, next actor to play the fictional spy, as craig hung up that famous 007 cloak and i'm joined now by another former bond girl, madeline smith, and she was in live and let die alongside the legend roger moore, and also jane seymour. welcome to the studio. >> absolute pleasure . >> absolute pleasure. >> absolute pleasure. >> so much pleasure, absolute pleasure. >> a pleasure to be here now then. >> yes, you've been up close, andifs >> yes, you've been up close, and it's fair to say i haven't beenin and it's fair to say i haven't been in bed with. >> yes. >> yes. >> you've been in with roger >> yes. >> youyes,ieen in with roger >> yes. >> youyes, wei in with roger >> yes. >> you yes, we got with roger >> yes. >> you yes, we got that vith roger >> yes. >> you yes, we got that one roger >> yes. >> you yes, we got that one outer moore. yes, we got that one out of the way, do think the of the way, how do you think the new stacks up? has he got new fella stacks up? has he got what it takes? >> he's a beautiful >> i think he's a beautiful looking . looking man. >> he's got something dear >> he's got something that dear roger an roger didn't have, which is an air of danger. >> he's got that that narrowed

eyed thing about darling roger >> the thing about darling roger was never wanted was he never wanted confrontation in real life or indeedin confrontation in real life or indeed in film. >> and. and i think maybe , maybe >> and. and i think maybe, maybe that's just one little tiny element against against his bond. >> maybe, maybe he had such a pleasant face and such a pleasant face and such a pleasant personality . and this pleasant personality. and this guy looks like he could be trouble. >> and i think bond needs to have that edge, which sean had. >> yeah, you were saying before we came on. yeah, that sean connery, who , by the way, full connery, who, by the way, full disclosure, was my favourite james bond . james bond. >> yes. and many, many, many a lady went for him. >> well , for the edges. >> well, for the edges. unreconstructed politically incorrect. yes. for many, that was the golden era of james bond.do was the golden era of james bond. do you think that the franchise has become a little bit too pc? >> it's because everything has become pc. but we're we're become too pc. but we're we're in an era now where we're finding the level. i think, it'll it'll it'll come right in the end. >> what i do feel is that we do

need a little more humour again, but not too much. >> not too many jokes, not a joke a minute. >> i think if anything, dear rogen >> i think if anything, dear roger, even in real and roger, even in real life and sometimes some of the talks that he gave, he did revert , i think he gave, he did revert, i think perhaps shyness to the laughter and making people laugh and the jokes. >> we don't want a jokey bond. >> we don't want a jokey bond. >> no, we want a serious bond. >> no, we want a serious bond. >> but within the script we need humour. for example , in my humour. for example, in my lovely little scene. >> well, not not my bit, but, bernard lee with the coffee, the look on his face, the way that he looks at bond. >> perfect. that's what you need i >> -- >> just lama >> just those little edges. >> just those little edges. >> very subtle. and of course, roger moore could say a thousand things by simply raising an eyebrow. he was brilliant at eyebrow. oh he was brilliant at that. >> but was. %“ %-- >> but he was. he was. >> but he was. he was. >> roger was actually a comic turn. >> i mean, off camera, i mean, we shrieked together, we danced around and did the tango on the bed. >> we romped quite a lot in the bed, except that unfortunately,

his wife was at the foot of the bed , which slightly spoilt occasion. >> i can imagine his real life wife, as opposed to mr >> during the filming. yes, she was on the bottom of it . no, not was on the bottom of it. no, not on standby. she was actually at the foot of the bed, staring at every we that make every move we made that to make sure acting. sure that it was just acting. yeah, we both had knickers yeah, well, we both had knickers on. hope i'm not on. yeah. i hope i'm not speaking no, you're speaking out of turn. no, you're not. carry on. i had a sort of ”appy not. carry on. i had a sort of nappy which was nappy thing on which was far from and looked like i was from sexy and looked like i was off rink, he off to the skating rink, and he had remember blue boxer had i remember blue boxer shorts, very nice. >> very decorous. >> we were very decorous. >> we were very decorous. >> so i think it's a great thing . this is just me, that the new bondis . this is just me, that the new bond is an english bloke. i just think it's faithful to the novels. and fleming himself also said that he was in his mid 30s. yes. james bond, especially in moonraker. he identified him as 37. so in that respect, this new fella ticks all the boxes he does. >> he's 33. yeah. he he and also i mean, he's rather an

interesting fella. i like the fact that he's gone for the older i find that very older woman. i find that very intriguing i'm not exactly intriguing as i'm not exactly a chicken anymore. not a spring chicken, , so yeah, chicken, anyway, so yeah, obviously that all of it appeals to me. >> he's got a little bit of scandal behind him already. i think that's a bit scandalous. i think that's a bit scandalous. i think that's a bit scandalous. i think that's fun. and think that's great fun. and i think that's great fun. and i think that's great fun. and i think that he will appeal enormously to the ladies . and enormously to the ladies. and he's got a fantastic physique. >> and that's not bad thing. >> and that's not a bad thing. not thing . it has, it has >> and that's not a bad thing. no got thing . it has, it has >> and that's not a bad thing. no got hairyiing . it has, it has >> and that's not a bad thing. no got hairy chestt has, it has >> and that's not a bad thing. no got hairy chest i has, it has >> and that's not a bad thing. no got hairy chest i thinkt has he got hairy chest i think i think he has because i think i actually personally remember his chest. >> but i like a hairy chest on a bloke. they don't have to be smooth. and if he has a hairy chest, please, please don't shave it. yeah. that his instructions. >> you don't like all that sort of plucked chicken look no i don't yeah no i don't like don't yeah no i don't i like a man to look bloke. man to look like a bloke. >> yeah. man to look like a bloke. >> and|. think actually that >> and i think actually that is what is also what the franchise is also missing. that kind missing. you know, that kind of slightly edges , slightly rough at the edges, unreconstructed devil may care attitude. definitely >> and a little bit of a pushoven >> and a little bit of a pushover. i mean, so what if the women get pushed over a little bit? some women, maybe me quite

like to be pushed over a little bit. i personally , women are bit. i personally, women are going to loathe me for this, but i like a man to be masterful. >> yeah. and think. >> yeah. and i think. >> right. >> we: w- w— >> so that is a great place to leave it. i think a lot of people will concur with that , i people will concur with that, i really do, madeleine. think really do, madeleine. i think people return to a people want to see a return to a fun franchise that's not politically correct, and stop sapping the fun out of it and give the audience what they want. >> it's make believe. >> it's make believe. >> yeah, and can we remember? bond was never perfect and we should imperfections. >> thank you, my love. >> thank you, my love. >> for having >> pleasure. thanks for having fans coming on the show. madeleine smith, former bond girl. absolute pleasure. way to end the show. now i've got a few of your emails. of course, you've been getting touch and you've been getting in touch and your . at your droves on that topic. at 7:00, that 7:00, nigel farage, that exclusive trump from exclusive with donald trump from florida. and eric says this not eric trump. eric, if trump manages to get re—elected, he will turn the us inwards and begin an isolationist policy fair to say he's not a fan. and on the issue of william and

kate, anthony says this. it wouldn't surprise me that both william and kate are having a good old laugh at the gormless individuals who are making such a fuss about this whole thing. and indeed, you know, so many have got in touch saying, just leave them let them enjoy leave them alone, let them enjoy their privacy and get well soon. thanks for joining their privacy and get well soon. thanks forjoining me on the thanks for joining me on the show today. it's been superb. dewbs& co is after this six till seven your weather first with aidan mcgivern. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar . sponsors of weather on . solar. sponsors of weather on. gb news. >> hi there. welcome to the latest gb news forecast from the met office. largely cloudy for the rest of the day, turning damp once again from the southwest, but it will stay mild in the south, although feeling colder further north. now. we've seen a weather front pass through overnight last night. next system coming along for

overnight tonight with outbreaks of rain by the end of the afternoon. pushing into the southwest of england, wales and then across many central and southern england before southern parts of england before turning up by midnight into northern ireland, southern scotland northern england . scotland and northern england. it does turn drier in the far south southeast, although south and southeast, although rather cloudy ten celsius here by dawn. colder and clearer for the far north—west of scotland. a touch frost possible, but a touch of frost possible, but in between a lot of cloud cover , in between a lot of cloud cover, outbreaks of rain. some of this will be heavy across parts of wales and northern england. the rain does tend to peter out through the morning. it turns more showery, i think, the more showery, i think, by the afternoon, it does linger afternoon, but it does linger there across northern england into and parts of the into wales and parts of the southwest. the far southeast stays dry, with some bright spells and highs of 18 celsius, much fresher for scotland and northern ireland. after early rain it does clear up and there will be some sunshine, but temperatures will reach 9 or 10 celsius. a wetter and windier day to come for scotland and northern ireland on thursday .

northern ireland on thursday. that rain pushing into the far northwest wales northwest of england and wales by the day, but by the end of the day, but staying the south staying dry in the south and southeast . friday's very showery southeast. friday's very showery day and it also turns colder later this week. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on

over again. that's according to the shadow chancellor, rachel reeves. what do you think to that? do you feel that we're in that? do you feel that we're in that position once again? are things worse perhaps, than they were then, or better? your thoughts that? and also get thoughts on that? and also get this women and people this pregnant women and people that have just had babies, they are going to be set to have reduced sentences if they find themselves having to go to prison. what do you think to

this? is about sentencing this? this is about sentencing guidelines changing, saying that actually birth actually pregnancy and birth should be a mitigating factor. do you agree with that or is it basically trying get off basically trying to get off the hook your wrongdoings? hook for your wrongdoings? also, eco protesters that are being accused of criminal damage can no longer claim a climate emergency justifies their actions . good. it's great to see actions. good. it's great to see some common sense finally prevailed , but do you think it's prevailed, but do you think it's the right move or not? maybe you think that actually this climate emergency justifies any emergency circle justifies any action whatsoever. tell me your thoughts on that. also in today's society, when it comes today's society, when it comes to the upper echelons of society , do you think they should still be closed shops male only members clubs? should they still be a thing where the hobnobbing of the rich and the famous and the powerful goes on and excludes women? your thoughts on that ? yes, indeed. we've got that? yes, indeed. we've got debate on all of that coming up over the next hour. but before

we do, let's cross live for