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continues being voted on again. it's not looking good that this law is going to pass or become law. any time soon. the government won't want to know, though, that today has been the busiest day for crossings on the channel. again goodness gracious me. also, the uk's largest delivery of aid to gaza has crossed the border and is being distributed . it's got me distributed. it's got me wondering, do you think the uk needs to do more to help resolve some of these foreign conflicts
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or not.7 there was a suggestion made at pmqs today that we should a scheme for should have a scheme for palestinian a similar palestinian runs in a similar manner which we set one up manner to which we set one up for the ukrainians. what would you to also, i want you think to that? also, i want to to you about child care. to talk to you about child care. do you think we've got it right in this country the way we do things not? fair. the help things or not? fair. the help for children and their parents, of course, be extended. one of course, will be extended. one of course, will be extended. one of panel says the whole thing of my panel says the whole thing is that families are is wrong, that families are essentially under attack, that one should always remain one parent should always remain at home to help care for the children. what about the grandparent in all of this as well? they pick up the lion's share of the childcare often. do you think they get enough support or not? i'll get into all of that. also tonight as well, did you see the inflation figures much lower than expected? do you feel wealthier at the moment or not? i've got aaron bastani and peter hitchens with me tonight . lots to get with me tonight. lots to get
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into . into. >> michelle, thank you and good evening to you. well, our top story tonight, gb news can reveal a migrant has been stabbed on a small boat attempting to cross the english channel today. attempting to cross the english channel today . the uk channel today. the uk authorities, including border force police and two lifeboat, attended the scene just before lunchtime today. the man we understand taken to hospital with non—life threatening injuries. officers are carrying out enquiries now to establish exactly what happened . the exactly what happened. the dinghy was one of eight small boats that reached uk waters on the busiest day of channel crossings so far this year. a record 450 migrants arriving ashore today that taking the number of migrants arriving in the uk this year to nearly 4000. meanwhile, housing asylum seekers on barges, military bases and in student accommodation is going to cost taxpayers more than the hotels currently being used. the national audit office has said
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housing those waiting for asylum decisions on former raf sites or on barges would cost the home office £i.2 on barges would cost the home office £1.2 billion. meanwhile the home office has announced that 100 asylum hotels will have been handed back to the public by the end of march. and you may have been hearing the rwanda bill is once again facing the prospect of further delay as peers discuss a fresh set of amendments. the government has suffered its second defeat as peers backed an amendment that states rwanda is only safe for as long as the provisions of the uk's treaty with that country are in place. if you're joining us on television right now, these are live pictures coming to us from the upper chamber. and just a short time ago, we saw the house of lords voting 285 to 230, a majority of 55. that is, on one of those amendments. the first defeat, though, against that bill was voted down earlier on today by 271 to 228. that's a majority of 43. so two defeats today alone.
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that does mean, realistically, there's little chance of this bill getting through parliament until after the easter break. >> the tragedy is we know the prime minister doesn't even believe in the rwanda gimmick. he tried to stop funding it, but he's now so diminished that his entire focus is stopping his mps holding the sword of damocles above his head . how has he above his head. how has he managed to spend £600 million of taxpayer money on a gimmick to deport 300 people? >> well, that was a keir starmer in the house of commons earlier on today. i can tell you that just within the last few minutes, the government has lost its third vote in the house of lords, 276 were told to 226. thatis lords, 276 were told to 226. that is a majority, of course, of 50, simple maths there 276 to 226 majority of 50. the third vote, of that rwanda bill voted
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down by the peers in the house of lords. we'll keep tabs on that for you by watching what's happening in the house of lords throughout the rest of this evening, although that pretty much things up for today. much ties things up for today. well, today, the well, earlier on today, the prime labour prime minister said labour itself running out ideas itself is running out of ideas on the issue. >> not only does the labour party not have a plan to fix this issue, but the truth is they don't actually care about fixing issue. he talks fixing this issue. when he talks about the gangs, when we gave the police new powers to crack down on the people smuggling gangs, he spent months campaigning and voting against him. if it was up to him, those criminals would still be out on our streets. mr speaker. and the truth is, if the truth is, if he wasn't the labour leader, he'd still want to be their lawyer. >> rishi sunak. let's take you to ireland now, where leo varadkar has announced he's stepping down as ireland's prime minister. the 45 year old says he's resigned as leader of the fine gael party immediately, but
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he says he'll stay on as taoiseach until his successor is chosen. mr varadkar became the first openly gay man to lead the irish government when he came out during the 2015 marriage equality referendum . and in equality referendum. and in wales vaughan gething has officially been elected as first minister there, succeeding mark drakeford. his appointment will now be recommended to his majesty the king. vaughan gething says he wants to lead a wales of hope, ambition and unity. >> i am, after all, the first elected leader of my party and indeed my country, with an ap in the name . we have, of course, the name. we have, of course, today voted also to ensure that wales becomes a first nation anywhere in europe to be led by anywhere in europe to be led by a black person. it is a matter of pride , i believe, for of pride, i believe, for a modern wales, but also a daunting responsibility for me and one that i do not take lightly. >> vaughan gething . now junior
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>> vaughan gething. now junior doctors in england have voted by 98% to continue with their strike action in their long running dispute over pay. the british medical association is requesting a 35% pay rise, which the government has previously said is unreasonable. there have been ten walkouts so far by junior doctors since the first one in march last year. junior doctors since the first one in march last year . and one in march last year. and lastly, hmrc has reversed its decision to close its self—assessment telephone helpline for half the year. the tax authority originally announced the line would be closed between april and september, with taxpayers directed to online services instead . mps criticised the instead. mps criticised the u—turn and shadow financial secretary james murray told the commons the government is giving up on serious governance, is running the treasury . running the treasury. >> this morning, just after we requested this urgent question , requested this urgent question, we found out the chancellor has told hmrc to pause this change. this is a u—turn of quite extraordinary speed and indignity after hmrc announced
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yesterday it would permanently close its self—assessment helpline altogether for half the year from april till september. this morning. year from april till september. this morning . a treasury source this morning. a treasury source said that ministers have halted this change immediately, implying that ministers were taken by surprise by hmrc's announcement yesterday . announcement yesterday. >> murray, that's the news on gb news for the latest stories , do news for the latest stories, do sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. common alerts . now screen or go to gb news. common alerts. now it's time for screen or go to gb news. common alerts . now it's time for dewbs& alerts. now it's time for dewbs& co . co. >> thanks for that, polly . what >> thanks for that, polly. what a stupid idea. they're from hmrc. did you see that at the end of the bulletins? maybe when they're trying to chase you for money? i wonder how it would go down if you all of a sudden just went on this long, extended sabbatical and wasn't able to answer phone i answer your phone calls. i wonder well would be wonder how well that would be received. not well, i imagine. i am michelle dewberry i'm with
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you tonight. what a you till 7:00 tonight. what a treat for you. i've reunited two of the best. the columnist for the mail on sunday, peter hitchens, and co—founder of hitchens, and the co—founder of novara media, aaron bastani. good evening, gentlemen, good evening. they're evening. evening. they're getting swimmingly. these getting along swimmingly. these two. apparently, there was rumours they even go rumours that they might even go on holiday together. don't on holiday together. i don't think telling me the think they were telling me the truth. just tried to piggyback truth. i just tried to piggyback along with see if i could along with them, see if i could follow them. but don't think along with them, see if i could foligetthem. but don't think along with them, see if i could foligettheanyway. don't think along with them, see if i could foligetthe anyway. it's1't think along with them, see if i could foligetthe anyway. it's nothink along with them, see if i could foligetthe anyway. it's not just i'd get in anyway. it's not just about is about you about us three. it is about you guys at home as well. what's on your tonight? you can get your mind tonight? you can get in touch with all the usual in touch with me all the usual ways. views at gb news. com ways. gb views at gb news. com is email me. or you can is how you email me. or you can tweet text me whatever you tweet or text me whatever you call it these at gb news. call it these days at gb news. i've got lots that want to get i've got lots that i want to get into with you guys tonight. i want to talk politics and everything that's going on there, we'll with that there, and we'll start with that in but i also want to in a second. but i also want to talk foreign conflicts as well. do you think the uk is doing enough? too much, some would say, what's going say, have you seen what's going on well in the university on as well in the university where students have where a load of students have barricaded themselves in a list where a load of students have ba demands? emselves in a list where a load of students have
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ba demands? oh selves in a list where a load of students have ba demands? oh it'sas in a list where a load of students have ba demands? oh it's alln a list where a load of students have ba demands? oh it's all coming of demands? oh it's all coming up on the show. i also want to talk to you about child care as well. have we got this right in this not? let's this country or not? but let's kick off, though, shall we, with matters this country, matters here in this country, rishi of he's been rishi sunak of course, he's been speaking to 1922 committee. speaking to the 1922 committee. let's to our let's cross live to our political christopher political editor, christopher hope, with the latest. christopher, good evening to you i >> -- >> hi, emma >> hi, michel. great to be on the programme , yeah. that's the programme, yeah. that's right. rishi sunak. the prime minister has just left a meeting of his entire backbench in the so—called 1922 committee meeting, trying to rally the troops ahead before the easter break. mps rise from here for about 20 day break next tuesday. at the same time as that, as you've been hearing on the news there from polly peers have issued inflicted repeated issued of inflicted repeated defeats on the government's attempts to through this attempts to push through this safety bill three and safety of rwanda. bill three and counting . i now expect all seven counting. i now expect all seven attempts by the house of lords to weaken the safety of rwanda bill to be voted through, which means go back to the means it will go back to the house of commons next house of commons probably next week, indeed week, and then that indeed will return the break in return after the easter break in
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a starting april 15th. that a week starting april 15th. that is the week expect this. this is the week i expect this. this bill first set out by boris johnson two years ago, three prime ministers ago to become law maybe flights might take law and maybe flights might take off in may and maybe just after a disastrous local elections. but i'm going too far ahead of the head of the game there. and we've now with me now is jonathan gullace, a tory mp from the red wall in the midlands. jonathan you were in that meeting now with rishi sunak. how he ? how was he? >> i think he was in good spirits and actually he was doing job doing a really good job of rallying reminding rallying the troops, reminding us record in us about our record in government since 2010. lots to be of from introducing the be proud of from introducing the national the triple and introducing the triple lock, and of latter years being of course, in latter years being the to fund and roll out the first to fund and roll out a vaccine, introduce a furlough scheme, and was making it very clear to tiny minority who clear to the tiny minority who are seemingly trying to undermine that you won't undermine him, that you won't undermine him, that you won't undermine him. you undermine every colleague and the conservative and conservative party, and that those who doing this have no those who are doing this have no interest helping the interest in helping the conservative it's quite conservative party it's quite clear to me their sole aim is to seek to destroy it, and i won't
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let them win. >> but a rebel was was here >> but if a rebel was was here with they would with you, now they would say, look polls, jonathan. the look at the polls, jonathan. the polls in stone at 20 polls are set in stone at 20 points behind labour. it's not working. why not find a leader who can lift that poll up and go towards where labour is? >> them that sir >> i would remind them that sir keir himself polls keir starmer himself polls extremely against the extremely negatively against the labour brand, and is seen labour party brand, and is seen as a perpetual flopper, as a perpetual flip flopper, which, is. i'd which, by the way, he is. i'd also remind them that actually there's about 40% of the electorate who currently electorate who are currently undecided at this present moment in and that labour lead, in time. and that labour lead, therefore, very what therefore, is very soft. what they want the voters is they want to see the voters is competence and delivery, which is why, despite the house of lords pesky with the lords being pesky with the safety we will safety of rwanda bill, we will tell to go it tell them where to go when it comes back our end. we will comes back to our end. we will get it on the statute books. we will get a flight off to rwanda and when we do, you'll see a big shift the polls, as well as shift in the polls, as well as making sure that we see inflation down to 2, inflation get down to 2, interest being cut interest rates being cut and people of people feeling the impact of those in their pocket. those tax cuts in their pocket. when have that the when we have that election the second half this year, second half of this year, believe there will be a very
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believe me, there will be a very clear and distinctive choice, mr flip or rishi sunak. and flip flopper or rishi sunak. and i which will be voting i know which i will be voting for because i'll interested for because i'll be interested in think my in voting for who i think my children looked children will be best looked after and that's rishi sunak. >> what are the odds, jonathan, on that your pm, mr sunak leading your party in the next election now you election right now 100. you heard of support heard there a rousing of support there pm. sunak there for the pm. rishi sunak after this meeting with with 1922 committee a few yards away from. standing now jonathan from. i'm standing now jonathan christopher, very christopher, thank you very much for i've to say, peter, >> i've got to say, peter, i find , so much of the goings on find, so much of the goings on at the moment in uk politics, so low rent and it makes me kind of just go like, oh, are we not better than all this ridiculousness? yes. >> well, we ought to be. but the problem is that politics has died in this country. it was dnven died in this country. it was driven out of politics by the blair government. the parliament ceased to be a political chamber in which there was division, the political party ceased to be opposed to each other. and they began, instead of representing the people to the state, they began to represent the state to the really
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the people. and what we really have needed a very long time have needed for a very long time in country been serious in this country has been serious reform of the two major parties in my they should be in my view, they should be replaced. trouble is that replaced. the trouble is that things continue as normal while this on, and an awful lot this goes on, and an awful lot of people still habitually support two parties and we support the two parties and we are faced with an election in which those the remaining, bodies of tribal support will clash against each other, probably in october or november , probably in october or november, and we will have an election in which one side or the other will win. and it will still be very important who wins, because on this occasion, after so many years of continuous non—labour government, the labour party will come back to office. if it comes back with a very , very comes back with a very, very full but not disclosed programme of major reforms which will shock people if they come. so it's a strange combination of the total deadness of politics, the total deadness of politics, the disgraceful weakness of the ideas of particularly the conservative party. but at the same time, one of the most
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important elections in terms of deciding the future of the country that we've ever had. >> do you agree with that, aaron? >> labour's hands are going to be bound to a significant extent by their inheritance, although that said, things be picking up and that's always helpful. just quickly, by the way, on jonathan gullis don't agree with a word he says politically, but i would want somebody like that next to me if i was in a pickle. well, it's been rallied then, hasn't he? yeah, there's speeches. he? yeah, there's his speeches. >> speeches are work wonders. >> well, there's not many conservative and conservative mps that look and sound like that at the moment. they and sound defeated. sound like that at the moment. theyl and sound defeated. sound like that at the moment. theyl aai sound defeated. sound like that at the moment. theyl aa bigund defeated. sound like that at the moment. theyl aa big partiefeated. sound like that at the moment. theyl aa big part ofeated. sound like that at the moment. theyl aa big part of thati. and i think a big part of that is they just another cut to is they just had another cut to national insurance contributions. it toopi that contributions. it was toopi that came january, another came in in january, another toopi the way, tens of toopi on the way, tens of billions of worth of tax billions of pounds worth of tax cuts, know, not really tax cuts, you know, not really tax cuts, you know, not really tax cuts because course the cuts because of course the thresholds haven't, haven't moved. big moved. but big, big, big moves in of people's finances in terms of people's finances and their polling has gone down. so that kind fighting so for that kind of fighting talk, i'm surprised. he talk, i'm surprised. and he overtly said election second half of the year i know. >> but you did the budget special with and we spoke special with me and we spoke
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didn't to a room of people . didn't we, to a room of people. i had lots of people emailing in at the time. and about that national people national insurance thing people were a few different were we've got a few different responses. pensioners, responses. a lot of pensioners, for example, that for example, or people that didn't work well. this didn't didn't work so well. this didn't affect so i'm not i'm no affect me. so i'm not i'm no better off. yeah. and that whole kind situation kind of fiscal drag situation where of people have where a lot of people have now either pulled paying either been pulled into paying income tax the first place or income tax in the first place or into a higher and it's into a higher band, and it's those people that are just not touched. asking at home, those people that are just not t0lyou1. asking at home, those people that are just not t0lyou feel asking at home, those people that are just not t0lyou feel anyzing at home, those people that are just not t0lyou feel any better at home, those people that are just not t0lyou feel any better offt home, do you feel any better off today? this inflation figure much expected. much lower, than was expected. but course, inflation still but of course, inflation still means prices are rising. means that prices are rising. they're rising slower extent. >> and also they've probably just had their council tax bills through for quite a ahead. through for quite a year ahead. and they up big time. and that they are up big time. >> . >> yeah. >> yeah. >> and quite it isn't. it isn't really very much in any case, what the conservative party will not is that not acknowledge is that what people actually want and not are not cuts in taxation not necessarily cuts in taxation , but better spending of the taxes that they pay if you if somebody seriously came and offered them a proper reform of the police and the criminal justice system under which
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criminals would begin to be deterred and punished, i think an awful lot of people would vote for that. labour would never come up with such a policy. if you up with an policy. if you came up with an education policy, which meant policy. if you came up with an educpeople olicy, which meant policy. if you came up with an educpeople weren't1ich meant policy. if you came up with an educpeople weren't condemned to that people weren't condemned to bad education, if they if they weren't rich, a lot of people would go for that one too. if they came up with a transport policy which actually allowed people from work, people to get to and from work, that be bad either. but that wouldn't be bad either. but they have of these they don't have any of these ideas. they constantly preoccupied with lowering tax by a penny. here and a penny there, completely failing to understand, apart from anything else, the extent to which tax went up and inflation went up after they shut down the country in 2020 was so huge that these things are just are just tiny compared with what they've already lost . already lost. >> and tobacco and vapes. that was a bill, this is a passion of rishi sunaks, isn't it? and a lot of people will say, well, is this the right focus for him to have? >> that's spot on. you know, i was looking at some of the policies that they're
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emphasising at the moment. a football regulator. yeah. scrapping or cigarettes scrapping or banning cigarettes for age group. agree scrapping or banning cigarettes for the age group. agree scrapping or banning cigarettes for the ban age group. agree scrapping or banning cigarettes for the ban on�* group. agree scrapping or banning cigarettes for the ban on single. agree scrapping or banning cigarettes for the ban on single usegree with the ban on single use vapes, but can park that, vapes, but we can park that, just policy after policy. and you think , what on earth are you you think, what on earth are you doing? like the country is racked by so many major challenges. i and it's almost like, you know, rishi sunak has just gone into this little tunnel of his own interests, which have absolutely no, relationship to the grievances and issues of the public at large. >> well, rishi. rishi obviously would argue that he's very passionate about al, and that is a focus government. a key focus of his government. but i was paying but these vapes i was paying attention the other day. i specifically decided, let me just look at how much of an issue this vape thing is. and i was quite surprised by how many young kids are vaping. and i even saw a clip. and some of you might have seen this clip. there was this kid at a football match the other day, and the camera had of picked him up and he had kind of picked him up and he was vaping, and to me it looked like i know, like he was about, i don't know, 12 and obviously he saw the 12 and then obviously he saw the
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camera and put it away and i thought, what is going on? and some of the kids that i saw, i was in hull, i must confess, watching this, they were with adults. know was adults. i don't know if it was their the children their parents, but the children was doing it. the was with adults doing it. the children doing it in the children was doing it in the company adults. i company of adults. and i thought, well, maybe it is a much bigger issue than i've been giving credit for. giving it credit for. >> well, single use vapes in particular. the particular. those are the ones that are that young people, children are attracted are attracted to, they are incredibly, dirty. they're impossible recycle. like impossible to recycle. and like you don't really you say, children don't really look as a tobacco look at them as a tobacco product or a cigarette. they look almost as a sweet. look at them almost as a sweet. and i think some adults as well, look them like that. and look at them like that. and so that is a major reason that for me, is a major reason why i think the ban on single use vapes, vapes, single use vapes, not all vapes, single use vapes, not all vapes, single use is a very compelling use ones, is a very compelling argument particularly use ones, is a very compelling arguthey're particularly use ones, is a very compelling arguthey're used particularly use ones, is a very compelling arguthey're used by)articularly use ones, is a very compelling arguthey're used by young arly how they're used by young people. made such a good >> we've made such a good argument. not election argument. it's not an election winner, i agree with winner, is it? no, i agree with that. poor out of their houses on election no, i agree, on election day. no, i agree, we're going to an end to we're going to put an end to vaping extremely suspicious vaping is extremely suspicious thing we don't know. thing because we don't know. hardly evidence on hardly any evidence is in on just how dangerous it is for children yet children or adults. and yet government encourages
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government virtually encourages it to smoking, it as an alternative to smoking, which is will prove to which i think is will prove to have been a major mistake. but it's election if it's not an election issue. if you actually this is this is something concerns you actually this is this is sontoo,ng concerns you actually this is this is sontoo, as concerns you actually this is this is sontoo, as a concerns you actually this is this is sontoo, as a cyclist, concerns you actually this is this is sontoo, as a cyclist, the :oncerns you actually this is this is sontoo, as a cyclist, the state ns me too, as a cyclist, the state of the roads, it is an enormous gripe among so many people. they can't get to work properly because the roads are in such a mess, potholed , dug up mess, potholed, dug up endlessly, ceaselessly, ceaselessly, inadequate , and of ceaselessly, inadequate, and of course, in many cases plagued by all kinds of traffic regulations which punish people for driving. >> but that's why when you see these visuals zebra these visuals of the zebra crossing things, that have crossing things, now that have been painted with swirly, reimburse you . look at them. i reimburse you. look at them. i think, what on earth are you doing? who is in charge? who is making these decisions? and where on earth is their mind? if you ask me, it's not in the right place. where did the money come from exactly? your thoughts on this? please on some of this? please gbviews@gbnews.com. going to gbviews@gbnews.com. i'm going to bnng gbviews@gbnews.com. i'm going to bring the break and bring you in after the break and also up after the break, also coming up after the break, i want to talk to you about foreign the foreign conflicts. what is the uk doing enough? uk doing? is it doing enough? should be doing more? and should it be doing more? and what about suggestion in
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what about the suggestion in pmqs we should have pmqs today that we should have a scheme where essentially replicates the replicates what we did with the ukrainians , but this time for ukrainians, but this time for the palestinians, and there's a load students as well. load of students as well. they've themselves they've barricaded themselves into have all into a halls. we'll have it all coming i'll see you in two.
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hi there. i'm michelle dewberry. i'm with you till 7:00 tonight. columnist with the mail on sunday, peter hitchens. and the co—founder of novara media, aaron bastani remain alongside melissa's. please, can i get in touch and tell you i'm so bored of all the political stuff that's going on at the moment. the government always makes promises. they don't keep it. we know they're not going to keep it. and this is impacting it. and all of this is impacting this which this country, which is desperately for desperately crying out for change, says , one of my change, he says, one of my viewers as well says, can i just say i'll be voting for a safe bet? the liberal democrats i was asking about those guys. they've
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just spring just had their spring conference. asking you conference. i was asking you a few ago, wasn't i, about few days ago, wasn't i, about whether or not you still think, they're in it? are they still in they're in it? are they still in the many of you, it seems the game? many of you, it seems to passionate about to be quite passionate about them, surprised them, which surprised me a little i must confess, one little bit, i must confess, one of my viewers says mother of my viewers says my mother has just hours in a and just spent 18 hours in a and e in a corridor on a trolley, she says, i look at what's going on, and she despairs as she suggests that there's priorities, taking place in the nhs, which isn't always favouring people that are perhaps been chipping in and paying perhaps been chipping in and paying their way via their national insurance . what you national insurance. what do you think one, let's talk think to that one, let's talk though. broaden our scope, though. let's broaden our scope, shall because, today uk shall we? because, today the uk has provided food now for 275,000 people in gaza, this is the biggest aid package that we've done so far , of course, we've done so far, of course, lord cameron, he's been speaking out quite a lot about this issue. he's saying that we need to have sustained humanitarian access. to have sustained humanitarian access . yes. i've got to say, access. yes. i've got to say, though, it's not really happening. but let's listen to what says. what he says. >> think the most important >> i think the most important thing now get a pause in
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thing now is to get a pause in the fighting so we can get the hostages out and we can get aid in, crucially, what we must then hostages out and we can get aid in, andially, what we must then hostages out and we can get aid in, andialljiswhat we must then hostages out and we can get aid in, andialljis turn we must then hostages out and we can get aid in, andialljis turn thatnust then hostages out and we can get aid in, andialljis turn that pause |en try and do is turn that pause into a permanent, sustained ceasefire without a return to more fighting and more bloodshed , but will only do that if a whole lot of conditions are fulfilled . we've got to get the fulfilled. we've got to get the hamas leaders out of gaza. we've got to dismantle the terrorist infrastructure and we've got to give the palestinian people a sense that there is a future where they can have a palestinian led government, and there is a long term prospective towards a two state solution. but security for israel is going to vital as well as a future to be vital as well as a future for the palestinians, and that's what we work on. what we should work on. i noticed, the use of the word we there , it was repeated there, it was repeated throughout david cameron's speech. throughout david cameron's speech . we, the united kingdom. speech. we, the united kingdom. yeah are we doing enough? should we be doing more ? is our we be doing more? is our involvement the right one? your thoughts? aaron? well, on this on this, aid package to 275,000 people in gaza. >> this is precisely the sort of
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thing that i think the public wants aid to be used for humanitarian disasters, relief, natural disasters , war, etc. natural disasters, war, etc. clean drinking water, contraception, women's health. what they don't want it to be spent on is actually what it's often spent on, which is quote unquote development building a business district in quito, ecuadon business district in quito, ecuador, or building private , ecuador, or building private, surgeries in india, which, by the way, both of those are funded by uk aid. i would reduce uk aid, but this is precisely it's about £12 billion a year at the moment. this is precisely the moment. this is precisely the of thing that money the kind of thing that money should be spent on in terms of what do what britain can do realistically. he also said get the hamas leaders of gaza. the hamas leaders out of gaza. they're not in gaza, they're in gaza. mean, so , look, britain gaza. i mean, so, look, britain realistically can do something. you know, we're a we're a tier two power. i suppose we're on the security council. we have nuclear weapons. but realistically , we're not china, realistically, we're not china, we're not the us. and because of this neck of the woods, you
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know, we're not saudi arabia ehhen know, we're not saudi arabia either. we can do a significant amount, but i think somebody like cameron probably has delusions about how much we can do. >> what did you think then? do you think that the uk is kind of, are we are we acting as though we are bigger, more influential perhaps, than we are? >> are we doing it constantly? >> are we doing it constantly? >> there's this fantasy that we have. and i was born in the empire, but it's over. we the fantasy that we that was fantasy that we had that was still a first class, great power, a fantasy that we haven't. we're still rich. a fantasy that have. we're fantasy that we have. we're still fantasy that fantasy that we have. we're stilstill fantasy that fantasy that we have. we're stilstill strong :asy that we still have strong and effective forces can effective armed forces which can step in civil matters like step in in civil matters like this when they're required. we have things. we this when they're required. we havan things. we this when they're required. we havan increasingly things. we this when they're required. we havan increasingly poorgs. we this when they're required. we hav an increasingly poor country are an increasingly poor country living debt, a real position living on debt, a real position in gdp per head is way down. we pretend to be in the top 6 or 7. we're actually somewhere, i think maybe in the top 30 we're nothing like as big as we think we are. i'm absolutely not against humanitarian aid. when people and have people are starving and have nowhere to we should give nowhere to live, we should give what can for and what what we can for that and what the of it is that we can
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the measure of it is that we can effectively deliver, i don't know, is complicated by know, all aid is complicated by actually the actually delivering it on the ground. when are existing ground. when there are existing people there who want have people there who want to have have of it and want to have their cut of it and want to have their cut of it and want to have share the of the have their share of the of the credit for it arriving. so it's you can't just send it and hope, hopeit you can't just send it and hope, hope it arrive. but there's hope it will arrive. but there's a great delusion also among a lot particularly broadcast lot of particularly broadcast media, get media, if you can get a television crew into country, television crew into a country, you can get an army of 100,000 people there, or you can get people in there, or you can get a a huge tonnage of relief a huge a huge tonnage of relief in there. very, very in there. it's very, very difficult. it's comparatively in there. it's very, very difficto . it's comparatively in there. it's very, very difficto . it's cccrewsatively in there. it's very, very difficto . it's cccrews into .y easy to get tv crews into places. the major logistics places. but the major logistics of getting aid or military force into places is huge and very expensive. we haven't got it. i think it is time in general, in examining all these things that the political leaders of this country acknowledge that we are not the powerful, rich country we pretend to be. it's time we admitted we're we're a modest country off the northwest coast of europe, which actually has many problems of its own, which are unsolved and which is in no position to go around telling the rest of the world what to
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do. >> so do you agree with that, yeah, no, i do. look, peter and i agree on a little bit too much, given that we come from different sides of the political divide, in itself quite divide, which in itself is quite interesting it not? interesting, is it not? >> because people would say >> because many people would say that when you hear, that actually, when you hear, you know, about the, the situation, the process and all the rest of it, you know, free palestine, whatever, a lot of people will say, well, this is a left mindset, but actually left wing mindset, but actually it's not. >> well, no, i would agree with that. i think maybe we'll that. and i think maybe we'll talk about this in talk about this more in a moment. but for instance, in terms where gazans are, they terms of where gazans are, they want sovereign country of want a sovereign country of their want to be able their own. they want to be able to self—govern they don't want to self—govern they don't want to europe. and i think, to come to europe. and i think, look, it's one of those shibboleths hear the shibboleths you hear from the right frequently. right very frequently. they want to guys and stone. to come here, guys and stone. they a country of their they want a country of their own. let's let's support them in that actually, mp today >> well, actually, an mp today in come to in in pmqs i'll come to that in a second. he was saying that what we need is a scheme similar to what we had for the ukrainians. so we should be opening up for refugees here. what would you make up at 7:00 make to that? coming up at 7:00
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is nigel with me is nigel farage. he's with me now. evening to you, nigel. now. good evening to you, nigel. would such a scheme? would you support such a scheme? >> no i wouldn't, we've taken half a million genuine refugees since 2016. that's a very, very big number, and today, somewhere between 450 and 500 young men have crossed the english channel again, all of whom pose a burden. so no , i wouldn't. and burden. so no, i wouldn't. and i'll be debating tonight as the rwanda bill ping pongs back and forth from the commons to the lords. is this solution is an end in sight, or are we in for a summer where tens of thousands of more young men cross into dover? >> there you go. that's nigel farage. he will be up at 7:00. let's just, listen, shall to we, the mp, at pmqs today that was requesting , that scheme. listen. requesting, that scheme. listen. yeah. every month in hammersmith, we hold ukrainian open house to bring together all those supporting ukrainian families who have fled that war. >> and every month i am asked why there are not similar visa
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schemes to allow palestinians to join their relatives in the uk or be hosted by families who wish to give them refuge here. what's the government's answer to that? yeah strong reactions from you, aaron, to that clip. >> what's the matter ? >> what's the matter? >> what's the matter? >> oh, andy slaughter is the mp, i think in west london. i think somewhere like fulham he's just a bit of a wet wipe. look palestinians don't want to leave. they don't want to be displaced. they want a sovereign country their own. that's country of their own. that's what this whole thing is about. and of course, it's a very contentious thing in terms of how we get there. but even david cameron saying we a two cameron saying we want a two state solution, look, everybody's been saying for state solution, look, eivery ody's been saying for state solution, look, eivery ody'stime. saying for state solution, look, eivery ody'stime. i'm ng for state solution, look, eivery ody'stime. i'm not for a very long time. i'm not suggesting it's easy, but the idea the solution to this idea that the solution to this is displacing the people who idea that the solution to this is dis want|g the people who idea that the solution to this is dis want to the people who idea that the solution to this is dis want to be people who idea that the solution to this is dis want to be displacedio idea that the solution to this is dis want to be displaced ,> idea that the solution to this is dis want to be displaced , that don't want to be displaced, that is stupid , it's counterproductive. >> and but he would say, well , >> and but he would say, well, if they don't want to be displaced, then it doesn't apply to them. he would argue the scheme would apply to people
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that want to be relocated. if britain is going to, britain is going to make that of going to make that kind of contribution, huge contribution, which is a huge contribution to offer potentially hundreds of thousands then thousands of people asylum, then we supporting some we should be supporting some kind ceasefire and some kind of a ceasefire and some kind of a ceasefire and some kind the kind of reconstruction in the gaza strip. kind of reconstruction in the gaz now, p. kind of reconstruction in the gaz now, i. kind of reconstruction in the gaz now, i don't think we've got >> now, i don't think we've got the to do that by the way. the money to do that by the way. but if that's the kind of intervention he's talking about, then be far more then that would be far more useful. palestinians do not useful. no, palestinians do not want leave what view as want to leave what they view as their country. just their home country. this is just this you know, this is kind of, you know, liberalism, think, going up liberalism, i think, going up its backside. its own backside. >> agree. >> we agree. >> we agree. >> well, moved completely >> well, we've moved completely on what we were discussing, on from what we were discussing, which aid for which was humanitarian aid for people got enough to people who hadn't got enough to eat. the politics of gaza, eat. so the politics of gaza, i don't think general that don't think in general that people to leave where people do want to leave where they in fact, one of the they live. in fact, one of the few things i've ever said in favour cameron was that favour of david cameron was that dunng favour of david cameron was that during syria crisis, he during the syria crisis, he concentrated very hard on ensuring that the people displaced by that foolish war were , at least for the most were, at least for the most part, housed close to their original homes, so that when things finally calm down, they had a good chance of going well. they didn't want to leave
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everything they move to everything they knew and move to another and most people another country. and most people don't. don't you don't. i don't. i don't you don't. i don't. i don't you don't. i don't think most people, given the want to do it. the choice, would want to do it. the gaza crisis not about the gaza crisis is not about people wanting to leave gaza and come to live in britain. it's a it's a bizarre thing to say from someone who suspect hasn't someone who i suspect hasn't thought about it very much, i want to show you something . want to show you something. after the break. i'll just play you a few clips, actually. about what? some students in bristol are currently doing. they feel very passionate about this subject. discuss it in a subject. we'll discuss it in a sack, let me if i can sack, but let me see if i can show you some of the images. they're, they're basically saying genocide, saying that there's a genocide, that's happening and they're having none of they've having none of it. they've basically themselves basically barricaded themselves inside the wills memorial building, at bristol university here. they've got a list of demands, ladies and gents , demands, ladies and gents, there's six demands here, i really want to talk about this with you in a couple of seconds, see whether or not you think this is the kind of stuff that should be going on. will it make any difference or not? i also
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want to talk to you about child care. we it right in care. have we got it right in this country or not? i'll see
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hello there. i'm michelle dewberry with u tools seven aaron bastani and peter hitchens remain a long side. me. i was asking you at the start, do you feel positive today given that inflation was much lower than expected, lee says no. just because inflation has gone down, nobody's better off. it just means that prices are still rising, but at a slower rate than before and says, can i just say i'm £1,000 a year worse off thanks to fiscal drag? and mr hunfs thanks to fiscal drag? and mr hunt's what she calls idiotic budget. she talks about energy bills going up, insurance for houses and cars and all the rest of it going up. and she says, and now i even have to pay tax on a small private pension. it's never ending, she says, well, there you go. if you do indeed feel better off, get in touch
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and let me know. i showed you some footage before the break. it's, got choice it's, i've got some choice words, but i'll just play it and you can make own mind up, you can make your own mind up, quite frankly. so is a quite frankly. so this is a group of students, they've occupied words. the wills occupied their words. the wills memorial bristol memorial building in bristol university. demanding, university. they are demanding, that the university makes a stand against genocide. they've got a list of demands, everybody, the. i am trying to take it seriously, but at the same time, i do find myself laughing a little bit. and i don't know why, because it is such a huge, serious subject. and know that people are so and i know that people are so passionate you see all passionate about. you see all this imagery about the children getting hurt in getting killed and hurt in palestine, and understand it palestine, and i understand it hurts. really , really does. hurts. it really, really does. i just don't whether or not just don't know whether or not these of moves will do these kind of moves will do anything to impact ends. anything to impact those ends. because for example, they want no repercussions for anyone involved in their occupation. they want food and medicine suppues they want food and medicine supplies to be lowered into the hall via the balcony. they want the university to cut all ties with arms companies. so, for
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example , you can't have some of example, you can't have some of these companies like airbus, rolls royce , bae, etc. at their rolls royce, bae, etc. at their careers events. they want to cut all ties with israel, their demand . the university takes demand. the university takes actions to support palestine and palestinians protecting anti—zionist beliefs, ceasing harassment , etc, etc. it goes harassment, etc, etc. it goes on. what do you make to these kind of. >> well, i was a left wing student once myself about 200 years ago, and we did this sort of thing. and in my heart was always the feeling that we were copying industrial workers who in those days were quite powerful because they could withdraw labour they withdraw their labour and they could economy, whereas could stop the economy, whereas we . whatever we did, it we weren't. whatever we did, it made no difference to anybody. nobody cared . it is ultimately nobody cared. it is ultimately posturing. don't that posturing. i don't doubt that they themselves care about they they themselves care about they they themselves care about the issues that they have embraced, in cases embraced, though in most cases they very little about them they know very little about them and can't care and therefore can't care effectively . but it doesn't effectively. but it doesn't actually move me all that much. so no great threat to so it's no great threat to anybody. i can't imagine if the university any sense that university has any sense that they'll anything other than they'll do anything other than sit goes away .
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sit around until it goes away. >> are they are they provided a menu for their for their food desires by their, i think i imagine specifically to be delivered by, by by guys on motorbikes. >> i imagine it'll be quite a long list catering for all allergies and all the rest of it. but this whole thing, people, i mean, we live in this, era now where you've got access to imagery in an instant, anything happens. it's, you know, circulated almost instantaneously on social media. so , particularly young so people, particularly young people, they are being bombarded with this imagery and it's horrendous. yeah. and unless you have a heart of stone , it is have got a heart of stone, it is going to move you because it is so distressing to see the imagery of the children, being hacked, killed all the rest of it. i know you shared an image today. yeah. one of the things that strikes me, though, i looked some the comments, looked at some of the comments, i your image because it i reshared your image because it really too. so many really upset me too. and so many people saying, well, this people were saying, well, this is it's propaganda. it's is fake. it's propaganda. it's not true. find that quite not true. and i find that quite an interesting sentiment. what do make to that? do you make to that? >> well, those people >> well, i think those people have a of their
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have lost a bit of their humanity, frankly. we know that large children large numbers of children are dying, mauled, dying, being maimed, mauled, disfigured. i think 50% disfigured. i think i think 50% of the population in gaza are children of course, you children because of course, you have low life have relatively low life expectancy, birth rates. expectancy, high birth rates. it's young population, in it's a very young population, in terms in of this, terms of in terms of this, student occupation, i think that's definitely part of what you're saying, insomuch as people see something awful and they feel they have to do something, and you might think that's appropriate or inappropriate, but it's understandable that one has that impetus. >> but why is it always something thousands of miles away? >> there are so many things which need solving much, much closer to home. >> very good point. do not do not require you to waive any barriers or any or take part in any demonstrations where you can do good. >> it's the thing though, in minute this is this minute particulars. this is this is blake's thing. good is william blake's thing. good is william blake's thing. good is done in minute particulars. it's not done by by showy gestures. showy gestures tend to be done by people who are drawing attention to themselves, doing good in small ways to quietly, to people , which is
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quietly, to people, which is available to all of us in our lives, is much more important than i'm much more impressed by it when i find out about it, which you usually only find out after who did have after the people who did it have died because didn't make died because they didn't make a fuss about it. noisy self—aggrandising protest about bad things. well, okay, it's perfectly legitimate thing to do, but i don't think we should get too filled with admiration by it . by it. >> well, i think people are in those occupations will probably be more likely to support, the end of zero hours contracts on campus, living wage on campus there, for instance, it's politics for you . politics for you. >> hold on. no. each thing, each thing you mention is a political thing. no, no, but you were saying a political or general goal saying a political or general goal. what i'm talking about is the small things. >> that's the local goal. >> that's the local goal. >> small things that we do to other people, one person to one person. not saying i'm in favour of you, not zero hour of you, you not having zero hour contracts. going on a contracts. i'm going on a demonstration against it. but helping somebody it helping somebody who needs it individually, that is what is.
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thatis individually, that is what is. that is what charity is that is what true charity is about. him respond very about. let him respond very little to do, i think. sloganising, i think this binary of they care global of they care about global concerns, therefore don't concerns, therefore they don't care local community. care about the local community. >> the case i don't. well, >> often the case i don't. well, that's certainly my experience. >> but then they're not sitting out doing out there doing locking themselves barricading themselves in or barricading themselves in or barricading themselves hall saying themselves into a hall saying themselves into a hall saying the homeless people on the amount of homeless people on these streets, they're not saying about anything like that , saying about anything like that, are they? saying about anything like that, are well, my experience of >> well, my experience of student occupations is it's precisely people precisely the same people who want end instance, want the end of, for instance, universities investing oil or universities investing in oil or opposition wars abroad. it's opposition to wars abroad. it's exactly same people who care exactly the same people who care about security guards being on zero contracts or who zero hours contracts or who might care about somebody being unfairly it's exactly unfairly dismissed. it's exactly the same people i quite, i quite you're using the word care in this wonderful abstract way. >> no, i care about all kinds of things. >> i gain no virtue from doing it. >> let me let me say something which where i agree with you. the over the last several the left over the last several decades has had propensity to decades has had a propensity to care these massive global care about these massive global affairs and ignore bread and butter home. butter issues here at home. >> i agree with you. it's not
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new. >> but his great, great novel >> but in his great, great novel bleak house, charles dickens created character mrs. created the character of mrs. jellyby, immensely jellyby, who was immensely concerned children in concerned about children in africa neglected her own. africa but neglected her own. and it's an archetype. it's a kind of person, which is very common, the person who's very concerned about things far away and useless about things. >> close experience of student occupations is, is that the young people who care about global also tend be global issues also tend to be very, very, very vigilant on local ones, too. >> there go. what's your >> there you go. what's your thoughts on all that gb views at gb com after the break, i gb news. com after the break, i want to talk to you about child care. got care. do you think we've got this all right in this country? of expanding of course we're expanding provisions even younger provisions now for even younger children, parents children, enabling more parents to go to work. is that the right move though, or not? tell me. see you in two.
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hello, everyone. i'm michelle dewberry seven, peter hitchens . dewberry seven, peter hitchens. aaron bastani remain along side
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me , bernard says, talking about me, bernard says, talking about those university demonstrations . those university demonstrations. no demonstrations, ultimately can change the situation on, whether it's wars, our own government doing actions that we don't like, basically, he says too many young people are so afraid of words. more than anything. and if we could, fix that, we might perhaps fix some of the issues. we're just talking about that bristol university thing . apparently, university thing. apparently, they're so passionate about free speech. saying . speech. well, we're just saying. or i just saying, i can't or i was just saying, i can't wait for that be extended wait for that to be extended then speakers that perhaps go then to speakers that perhaps go in don't think you can in and don't think you can change biological sex and change your biological sex and all rest can't wait all the rest of it. can't wait for free speech to extend to them guys, them and for those guys, not perhaps no platform perhaps to be no platform the way they sometimes are within universities, etc. anyway, let's talk because long universities, etc. anyway, let's talk short, because long universities, etc. anyway, let's talk short, i'm)ecause long universities, etc. anyway, let's talk short, i'm sure|se long universities, etc. anyway, let's talk short, i'm sure you ong universities, etc. anyway, let's talk short, i'm sure you know story short, i'm sure you know this already, provision this already, but the provision of extending free child care that's going to be expanded now. so it's going to include two year it's going to include year olds. it's going to include a more, year old four a lot more, three year old four year olds as well. in the coming years. let me just cut to the
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chase with this for time reasons. do think this is reasons. do you think this is a step in the right direction? aaron bastani absolutely. aaron bastani yes, absolutely. >> the >> the problem with the conservatives is they haven't created the infrastructure, the foundation it be foundation for it to be successful. don't enough successful. we don't have enough nurseries, we don't have enough people sector. so it's people in the sector. so it's setting target. the actual setting a target. but the actual the ingredients for the recipe aren't there. >> but dave, one of my viewers says, michelle, why do people have children and then get have children and then just get other look after them, other people to look after them, does his mother in does he include his mother in law, for instance, the child's grandparents? in that calculation? i don't know. look, people have they have they have demands on their time. they have jobs. et cetera. et cetera. that's the way world. that's the way of the world. now, years ago or now, you know, 100 years ago or 80 ago, you might live on 80 years ago, you might live on one income. that's just not possible in 2024. so, i mean, that's major reason why is, that's the major reason why is, of work. of course, work. >> says if you want >> sandra says if you want children, look after them yourself for it. why yourself and pay for it. why should taxpayer the should any taxpayer fund the child anyone child care of anyone else's children? can't afford children? if you can't afford your own kids? she puts in capital letters, not have capital letters, do not have them. blimey, it's a lot less
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than 100 years since you were able to live on one income. >> in well into my lifetime, a lot of people were still doing it. and so one of the great changes in our society is it's become increasingly impossible. and it's therefore both parents are out to work. if are forced out to work. if they're if they're to be able to afford housing and food, and then they find that there's a trade off with so—called child care where they have to work out, is it worth staying, staying at work to pay for this immensely expensive child care , immensely expensive child care, which i have to have because i go out to work? this is, in the end, it's the result of a huge experiment promoted by governments of both parties over 50 60 years in which they've 50 or 60 years in which they've tried to replace the family with the state. they've been very hostile to the married family, making hard for it to be making it very hard for it to be sustained. they've made the tax and system hostile to and benefits system hostile to family life. they've made the law people want law hostile to people who want to together and raise their to stay together and raise their own . our culture is own children. our culture is fantastically hostile women fantastically hostile to women or to stay at home or men who want to stay at home and raise their families , as
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and raise their own families, as everybody is told, go out to work and that is the good thing to do. and the raising of the next generation is treated, particularly by third wave feminists, as a contemptible, form of activity. not not even worthy of consideration, which people shouldn't think of doing. it doesn't work . it will never it doesn't work. it will never work. there isn't enough money in the tax system to pay for good childcare for all good quality childcare for all the who affected by the children who are affected by it. back to promoting family it. go back to promoting family life you find most of life and you will find most of these problems are solved. aaron look, well, i think actually the thing you were saying about the work and it is work of raising the next generation is the most important out there, so why important work out there, so why is it penalised? >> well, the problem is, peter, is that our economic model has, as you've said, this demand of basically both parents having to work. if you look at the cost of housing right now, if you look at taxes, if you look at energy prices, it's simply impossible. so, totally agree. so, look, i totally agree. it's important actually, important work. actually, many women would prefer not to work and look after multiple children. >> don't call it working.
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>> don't call it not working. >> don't call it not working. >> it's one of the worst things about this is the way in which there's this. there's this category working women there's this. there's this catewomen working women there's this. there's this catewomen who working women there's this. there's this catewomen who raise1g women there's this. there's this catewomen who raise theirmen there's this. there's this catewomen who raise their own and women who raise their own children. the raising of children. and the raising of children. and the raising of children incredibly high, children is incredibly high, i totally agree. >> who have to sell their >> women who have to sell their labour non—working. labour for a non—working. >> i totally agree with you. but that's we have that's then we have to fundamentally rethink our economic all we economic model. well, all yes we do something that caught my eye a weeks back in ireland. a few weeks back in ireland. >> i don't know if you're familiar with this, but ultimately was ultimately there was a referendum, questions posed, ultimately there was a refe|it1dum, questions posed, ultimately there was a refe|it wasl, questions posed, ultimately there was a refe|it was about,|uestions posed, ultimately there was a refe|it was about, altering posed, ultimately there was a refe|it was about, altering the .ed, and it was about, altering the irish constitution. so if anyone is familiar with this, but they basically asked two separate questions . they were all questions. they were all basically about the definition of family . so they wanted to of family. so they wanted to expand the definition of family to include durable relationships outside marriage , the other outside marriage, the other question was all about replacing references to women's life within the home. i've got to say, it was overwhelmingly rejected. so they had that opportunity there, to change that. they voted not to do it. they wanted to keep their
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tradition. lots of people are getting in touch with me again, and saying ultimately , michelle, and saying ultimately, michelle, if you don't want your children, don't have them. i think we're getting a bit confused, though. i don't think it's people not wanting their children. >> i think if there were a political party which which which sided with married which sided with the married family, then would do family, then it would do extremely there was no extremely well. but there was no such in ireland during the such party in ireland during the referendum them referendum. none of them expected result. expected that result. they didn't. didn't it was didn't. they didn't know it was going happen. and was going to happen. and there was one party was on the one tiny party which was on the winning , and all the rest winning side, and all the rest were on were on the losing side. they had no idea hit they had no idea what hit them. they had no idea what hit them. they any how popular they hadn't any idea how popular the family life actually the idea of family life actually is with people. >> one of my viewers, peter, says i need to echo this, says again, i need to echo this, michel, reason need michel, the reason we need childcare this country is childcare in this country is because you simply cannot earn enough as a social worker enough money as a social worker now to be able to provide a good quality of life your child, quality of life for your child, peter says. therein is the issue . warwick says, michelle, i was late your programme today. late to your programme today. who are these two gentlemen alongside you've just alongside you? if you've just tuned in, you've missed out, but
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you watch us on catch up, so you can watch us on catch up, so don't worry, it is peter hitchens, aaron bastani that has been keeping you company tonight. gone through tonight. we've gone through a lot of things. as i said, if you missed it, you can watch us on the app or you can go to youtube and catch up there. but that is all we've time for, all we've got time for, gentlemen. for your gentlemen. thank you for your company evening . thank you. gentlemen. thank you for your c0|home. evening . thank you. gentlemen. thank you for your c0|home. i evening . thank you. gentlemen. thank you for your c0|home. i veryyening . thank you. gentlemen. thank you for your c0|home. i very much . thank you. gentlemen. thank you for your c0|home. i very much appreciate u. at home. i very much appreciate it. don't go anywhere, though, because is up next night. because farage is up next night. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> evening. welcome to your latest weather update from the met office for gb news. most of england and wales will be dry and bright after a bit of a dull start. scotland and northern ireland turning wet and increasingly tomorrow increasingly windy tomorrow thanks weather system thanks to this weather system approaching from the atlantic, we've this set of weather we've had this set of weather fronts across us today fronts sitting across us today made for a pretty damp day for parts of england and wales still a heavy showers around a few heavy showers around through but tending
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through the evening, but tending to dry to clear away most becoming dry through that through the night until that next band of rain makes for a damp start over the highlands and the west of northern ireland on thursday morning could be quite across the south quite murky across the south tomorrow as well. lot of mist tomorrow as well. a lot of mist and low cloud settling in through the night, don't be through the night, so don't be surprised it's not a little surprised if it's not a little drab. first thing on thursday morning. be some fog morning. could even be some fog patches around. it should steadily through steadily clear through the morning, most of morning, and then most of england and dry and england and wales. dry and bright. bit of patchy rain bright. a bit of patchy rain could north wales, could affect north wales, northern at times northern england at times certainly wet in western scotland that moving from scotland that rain moving from west across northern west to east across northern ireland brightening ireland to brightening up perhaps across the far northwest. will be windy northwest. but it will be windy here. conditions here. blustery conditions throughout and turning a little colder elsewhere. still pretty mild brightness in mild with a bit of brightness in the could easily see the south, we could easily see those temperatures mid those temperatures into the mid teens. those temperatures into the mid teens . once more will see the teens. once more we will see the rain trickling further south as we through the night. a damp we go through the night. a damp start parts of south, start across parts of the south, that rain lingering that rain perhaps lingering until across until lunchtime across the south—east blustery showers until lunchtime across the south—(int blustery showers until lunchtime across the south—(in behind, ry showers until lunchtime across the south—(in behind, particularly coming in behind, particularly for and northern for scotland and northern ireland, with some snow on the hills and a colder feel , it is
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hills and a colder feel, it is going to turn chillier for all of us to end this week into the weekend. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on
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