the news with polly middlehurst. >> nigel, thank you and good evening to you. well, our top story from the gb newsroom tonight is that an illegal migrant is in hospital after being stabbed on board a small boat attempting to cross the engush boat attempting to cross the english channel. uk authorities, including force officials including border force officials and two lifeboats, attended the scene just before lunchtime today. officers are now trying today. officers are now trying to establish exactly what happened.the to establish exactly what happened. the victim, we understand, has nonlife threatening injuries. the dinghy was one of eight small boats that reached uk shores on the busiest day of channel crossing so far this year , with a record so far this year, with a record 450 migrants arriving today alone. this takes the number of migrants coming to the uk illegally this year to nearly 4000. meanwhile, housing illegal migrants on barges , military migrants on barges, military bases and in student accommodation is going to cost taxpayers more than the hotels currently being used . the currently being used. the national audit office says housing those waiting for asylum decisions in alternative

accommodation would cost the home office £46 million more than using hotels. meanwhile, the home office has announced that 100 asylum hotels have already been handed back to pubuc already been handed back to public use for the end of march . public use for the end of march. now, as you've been hearing passage of the government's flagship rwanda bill is now delayed until after easter, when mps will have the chance to vote again after three votes against it in the house of lords today, our political editor, christopher has the christopher hope, has the details . details. >> well, here in parliament, where peers have again frustrated attempts by rishi sunak to pass into law his rwanda plan. it was first announced two years ago by boris johnson . but still, those johnson. but still, those flights have not taken off in the uk, carrying illegally arrived migrants to rwanda. here in the house of lords tonight, peers have voted to say that migrants can only be sent to rwanda when all the measures in rwanda when all the measures in rwanda treaty have been satisfied, and that could take a while. another amendment passed by the by the peers here says the bill must have due regard

for international law. and so the ping process continues . the ping pong process continues. but the government is very clear it ensure it try and it will ensure it will try and force this measure through parliament ensure that parliament to ensure that flights can take off. it rolls on now, probably till after easter, when we expect another battle between the commons and the with whips, by the lords with whips, hoping by then the measures can be then that the measures can be sorted out. the lords will back down and it's possible these flights might take in may. flights might take off in may. >> chris hope now to wales, where vaughan gething has officially been elected as the first minister, succeeding mark drakeford. his appointment will now be recommended to his majesty the king. mr gethin says he wants to lead a wales of hope, ambition and unity. he wants to lead a wales of hope, ambition and unity . junior hope, ambition and unity. junior doctors in england have voted by 98% to continue with their strike action in their long running dispute over pay. the british medical association is requesting a 35% pay rise, which the government has previously said is unreasonable. there have been ten walkouts so far by

junior doctors since the first one in march last year , and hmrc one in march last year, and hmrc has reversed a decision to close its self—assessment telephone helpline for half the year. the tax authority originally announced the line would be closed between april and september, with tax payers directed to online services instead. but mps have criticised that u—turn. that's your latest news for the latest top stories do sign up to gb news alerts. scan the qr code on your screen right now or go to gbnews.com slash alerts . slash alerts. >> good evening. well, it's from mar—a—lago to the english channel. this subject of people crossing the channel in dinghies that i did so much, i believe, three years ago to wake people up to, well, what's happened today? somewhere between 450 and 500 people have been processed through dover today . and we have through dover today. and we have a forecast for tonight into

tomorrow that is very, very calm. so we can pretty much expect the same again. and an incident on one of the boats today there was a stabbing. yep. so somebody who came in is now being treated in hospital . and being treated in hospital. and of course all these young undocumented males, there are clearly some very, very bad people among them who will do our country great harm. but one piece of good news, the government tells us by the end of march, over 100 of the hotels that have been requisitioned will now be back for use in local communities. well, on the face of it, that's great news because the daily bill for putting these people up is now running at £8.2 million. trouble is, the national audit office have confirmed today that the use of former raf bases like wethersfield , scampton the use wethersfield, scampton the use of private accommodation that increasingly is being used as well, that actually the bill for

all of that is going to be even bigger than the bill for the hotels. and as we speak, there is a game of parliamentary ping pong going on in westminster , pong going on in westminster, where the house of lords again are rejecting much of the government's rwanda bill. and this debate within the house of commons is really coming to a head. but even when and i say when, because ultimately only the house of commons can overrule the house of lords, even when the rwanda bill becomes the rwanda act, i still don't think we're going to see flights going to rwanda. and i say that because the judiciary, the legal system are signatory to overseas conventions and treaties is going to make it, i think, legally all but impossible. maybe i'm wrong . you impossible. maybe i'm wrong. you tell me, is there an end in sight to the migrant crisis? give me your thoughts. farage at gbnews.com. because i don't think there is. i think there'll

be tens of thousands more that will cross the english channel this year, and the french undoubtedly have geared up their operations , and they're using operations, and they're using drones in the riverways . they're drones in the riverways. they're stopping a lot of boats on the beaches. stopping a lot of boats on the beaches . but you stopping a lot of boats on the beaches. but you think about it, you know, there's over 100 miles of french coast that they've got to protect very, very determined traffickers, very determined young men wanting to get to england. a number will always still get through. let's go straight to the palace of westminster and join gb news is political editor christopher hope. christopher, i mean, in brief , the house of lords are brief, the house of lords are just sending everything back to the commons again . the commons again. >> yeah, i mean, in brief, that's what's happened so far. we've done four votes in the house of lords. we've done four votes in the house of lords . they've all been house of lords. they've all been reversed by majorities of between 30 and 45. these are attempts by the commons, as we

know on monday, have said we will reject all of your attempts to weaken the safety of rwanda bill. that is are saying, well, i'm sorry, back with you to the mps and we expect now looking at the voting that all the pattern of voting that all seven will be lost tonight by the government, means the government, and that means it into the house of it goes back into the house of commons maybe as soon as next week. fully expect this to be week. i fully expect this to be resolved now easter. i've resolved now after easter. i've been people in been told by senior people in the that in the the whips office that in the week starting april the 15th, that's the when it will be that's the week when it will be when that the when they are hoping that the house will cave in house of lords will cave in after three of these iterations of so—called ping pong and accept that the safety of rwanda bill is going to become law at some point. mps, the elected mps exert their democratic , exert their democratic, democratic legitimacy over the house of lords. it's unlikely to go as far as the parliament act delaying it for a year. but what's happened is, is this is delaying this bill becoming law. and, as you say very clearly, nigel, lawyers are sharpening their quills, getting ready for their quills, getting ready for the next stage in this, which is

onceit the next stage in this, which is once it becomes, act and act, the safety of rwanda act. they will then try and remove a cohort of 200 or so legally arrived migrants from here to rwanda. and that's when the lawyers get involved . and a lawyers get involved. and a whole new battle takes place in the courts. >> is there a chance here, chris, that you know, this is the stated government policy. they've really hung their hats on this in terms of the next election in many, many ways . you election in many, many ways. you know, it's the most prominent of rishi sunak five pledges, with the lords rejecting this. again and again. are the house of lords playing party politics? >> i think it's just it's parliament. it's what we have here in our country. we don't have an elected second chamber. we don't have senators who then could be at odds with mps. we don't have senators who then could be at odds with mps . mp could be at odds with mps. mp the house of commons is a primary house. we have a revising chamber which is unelected, full of peers. at some point they have to fold normally they will after normally they will fold after 2 or 3 attempts. iterations of ping or 3 attempts. iterations of ping pong in extreme cases, it

can be a whole year until that happens. but i don't really expect that. i think whips tell me confidently will expect that. i think whips tell melaw confidently will expect that. i think whips tell melaw by confidently will expect that. i think whips tell melaw by the fidently will expect that. i think whips tell melaw by the end tly will expect that. i think whips tell melaw by the end of will expect that. i think whips tell melaw by the end of the will expect that. i think whips tell melaw by the end of the third be law by the end of the third week of april, in april, and then this target of getting these flights taking off for further will happen in may further pm will happen in may for pm himself. had his for the pm himself. he's had his own dramas here, with meeting own dramas here, with a meeting of committee of of the 1922 committee of backbench tory mps. he was very, very firm with them , saying that very firm with them, saying that people saying that maybe as many as 40 letters of no confidence in him, he said he's very clear, saying they're undermining you as colleagues , not not me on my as colleagues, not not me on my own. all of you are being undermined by these noises off about leadership. having said that, it is very clear to me that, it is very clear to me that behind the scenes mps are moaning and moaning and moaning about sunak. won't about rishi sunak. they won't tell public because tell him in public because that's not what tory mps do. nigel, you know, behind nigel, as you well know, behind the scenes, though, they're very, very upset, very unhappy. the what can happen the question is what can happen next. the question is what can happen nexyeah, who knows. chris >> yeah, well who knows. chris hope, thank you very much indeed. let's go to mark white, gb news home and security editor

, to mark a stabbing on one of the boats. have we heard of these incidents before ? these incidents before? >> yeah, we have actually. it might come as a surprise to many people, talk of a stabbing on board a boat, but actually, there are increasing levels of violence, particularly on the french side of the channel. and what's been happening is that over recent months, increasingly, numbers of migrants who just don't have the, the, the to money buy a ticket through the proper people smuggling channels, try to muscle their way onto the boats as they take off from the french shores, and then they come face to face with the gangmasters, the people smugglers who mete out their own form of justice. and that can be often quite violent. there have been a number of incidents in recent months where some bodies have been found on the beaches of northern france, and the working theory is that that has been as

a result of an altercation , a result of an altercation, trying to get on a boat and meeting with a violent response from those, criminal gangs. meeting with a violent response from those, criminal gangs . they from those, criminal gangs. they don't mess about. so it's perfectly possible that this individual, this man may have received those stabbing injuries as he tried to get on this boat. clearly, he's now been taken to hospital here in the uk . clearly, he's now been taken to hospital here in the uk. his injuries, were told, are not life threatening now. >> and mark, you know, we do hear that the french genuinely are stepping up their attempts to stop the boats from going, you know, puncturing dinghies, even a case i saw last week of french officers wading into the water, almost trying to drag a boat back , drones being used in boat back, drones being used in the riverways , which have been a the riverways, which have been a much more common way for boats to launch in the last year or so, but they can't stop it, can they? >> no.and they? >> no. and that's why i think we should be worried about what

we're seeing now unfolding on the other side of the channel because there is no doubt, as you say, there is an intense effort that is underway by the french authorities, having received, obviously, many millions of pounds more from the uk government, but funding, a part of that operation themselves as well. but they have a huge stretch of coastline, having said that , coastline, having said that, though, you know, they are evident on large stretches of the coast. but the thing i think that's worrying is, despite this clear increased french police presence, we are still getting numbers of boats that are making it across the channel that are now exceeding last year's number. now, the government trumpeted the fact that the number of migrants who had come across last year was down 36. we said it was more to do with the weather. they argued that actually it wasn't the weather as much the same last year as it was the year before. whatever you believe, the fact is, this

year already the numbers who are coming across are up by about 500 on where they were at this point last year. >> mark white as ever, thank you very much indeed. and isn't it odd the home secretary, james cleverly, has gone very quiet. he was so busy over christmas, telling us that no one was coming. and as mark said, we on gb news pointed out it was the weather and they wouldn't accept it. well, just wait for what's coming folks. in the next few months. joining me is baroness hoey, life peer and of course former labour mp, kate, i know it's the job of the house of lords to scrutinise legislation, but the one thing that strikes me is we have a government with a big majority that wants to carry out what is very clearly the majority view of the people in this country. the majority view of the people in this country . why are they in this country. why are they doing it ? doing it? >> i think overall they're doing it because they want to delay the whole thing as much as

possible. they want to make sure that they have followed every sort of dot and comma of legal ways, of trying to make it more difficult , even if it goes difficult, even if it goes through, and is an act that it will be difficult to send people back because there will still be legal opinions. so a lot of the amendments have been about that, about more, you know, being able to actually scrutinise more before individuals can be sent back to make sure that they don't have individual circumstances. all this kind of thing. but the reality is, in the end, you know , the house of the end, you know, the house of lords, it wasn't in the, in the, in the manifesto. so the parliament act is very difficult to use . and therefore, you know, to use. and therefore, you know, the house of lords will give in. but of course they have now managed with seven amendments today to make sure that it won't happen until after easter. so that delays almost by a month. the whole situation . the whole situation. >> yeah. i mean, we have this battle between the commons and the lords, but i'm struck, kate, that ever since the creation of

the supreme court that increasingly the real battle now is between people we elect governments that form and a judiciary who now seem to almost delight in overturning what government and parliament says . government and parliament says. >> i think it's a very, very worrying what we're seeing that more and more that ultimately parliament is not supreme. and, you know , people elect their you know, people elect their mps. they don't elect us in the lords , but they expect us to lords, but they expect us to scrutinise and then revise and perhaps sometimes get the house of commons to change its views. but they don't expect to. they don't elect their judges. they don't elect their judges. they don't elect their courts. and we are now in a situation where so many of the more controversial issues that governments want to be radical about get overturned by, by the courts. and i think, you know, i think we are going to have to face up to that, that thatis to have to face up to that, that that is not acceptable , and i that is not acceptable, and i don't speak as a lawyer. the

reality, of course , in the reality, of course, in the lords, it's full of lawyers and they love anything that can be extending things by using the legal process. but it is it is really genuinely worrying, you know, what is the point, people will say, of actually going out and voting if at the end of the day, in the manifesto, day, what is in the manifesto, perhaps, what we voted for perhaps, and what we voted for and what mps then want to put through can't happen. >> no, absolutely. well, as i say, i believe tony blair laid the groundwork for this, and it's going to be a big debate in the years to come. now one of the years to come. now one of the darlings, one of the darlings of the european union, the irish the taoiseach, the irish premier, love premier, leo varadkar. they love him brussels. premier, leo varadkar. they love him brussels . and of course, him in brussels. and of course, he just lost a referendum very heavily in ireland. his own party, fine gael, in big trouble in the polls heading up to the european elections in june. but he was also, was he not, one of the key anti brexiteers and architects of what we now have with a border in the irish sea?

>> i think, nigel, you will see from my expression that i'm not in the slightest bit upset that the taoiseach has decided to resign as party leader and as taoiseach . you know, it's been taoiseach. you know, it's been a number of people on twitter, including lord dodds , have said, including lord dodds, have said, you know, he is responsible more than anyone else. probably on the island of ireland, for actually bringing about the protocol and for really starting a wedge between northern ireland and the rest of the united kingdom. i'm sure he's got a nice job lined up somewhere at the european commission but his party is going to be, you know, they're already in, in a big mess because, as you know, there's a lot of issues there now about immigration, which of course, varadkar was very keen to see open almost. that to see open borders almost. that is now proving to be a big, big issue. we saw the referendum , he issue. we saw the referendum, he lost that and i think they're going to find it very difficult to off another to hold off having another a general election, which has to come sometime in the next year so we could end up with both the

united kingdom and ireland having a general election , more having a general election, more or about the same time. but or less about the same time. but i'm saying gone . i'm saying he's gone. >> okay, a beaming, >> absolutely. okay, a beaming, a baroness hoey, thank a beaming baroness hoey, thank you very much indeed . yeah. and you very much indeed. yeah. and there's no doubt that that varadkar did play a very, very major role. now, one of the big five promises the government have made. they're winning with. yes. come on, let's give them credit where it's due. inflation is falling. they will meet their targets it's falling targets but it's falling inflation. good news. or is it a sign that actually the uk economy is simply flatlining

? well, i ask for your thoughts. is there an end in sight? will when the rwanda bill finally goes through, will the boat start taking off for kigali? pete says the rwanda bill won't work. i can't see the flights

ever taking off. the solution is to send the boats back to france and let them deal with the problem, stewart says. and i do agree with this. democracy is carrying out the will of the people. those annoying old people. those annoying old people in the house of lords are going against the will of the people. where is the democracy in that? stuart you're right. and yet, as i said earlier in debated with kate , when we now debated with kate, when we now go to the system and go to the legal system and ultimately to the supreme court, we find the courts have far more political power than the elected members of parliament and government of the day. and it's something that really does need to be sorted. now. one of the key five tests was, of course, a big halving of inflation. liam halligan gb news, economics and business editor , joins me. this business editor, joins me. this was one of the five pledges that everyone at the time thought they'd meet, because inflation had peaked anyway , hadn't it? had peaked anyway, hadn't it? >> inflation does come off its peak. he made the pledge at the beginning of 2023. inflation is about 10.5. it had been 11.1

back in october 2022, a 40 year high. but they thought it would be easy in the end. inflation has gradually has come down throughout 2023, and there's a new figure out today which we'll talk about. but things don't happenin talk about. but things don't happen in a straight line. and there were little moments when it looked as if he might not make it, but he has made it. he's well under 5. we went the inflation february during inflation for february during the february. came the year to february. it came out morning 3.4, down from out this morning 3.4, down from four in january. so what does that mean ? it means prices in that mean? it means prices in february were 3.4% on average higher than in february 2023. of course , they're still going up, course, they're still going up, but they're going up by less . yeah. >> no. and we've got an interest rate decision coming on on thursday of this week. yeah. >> tomorrow i'll be there brian . >> tomorrow i'll be there brian. early bushy tailed. >> yeah. the interest rate shot up of course. rather later than some of us thought they should have done. is it now time for interest rates to start coming down? >> i think it's well over time. i think should have been i think we should have been cutting months cutting interest rates months

ago, you know, what do ago, but you know, what do i know? the bank of england won't cut interest rates tomorrow because . because inflation is because. because inflation is still well above the 2% target, and because i don't think they've got the kind of institutional acumen to cut rates, there are nine members of the monetary policy committee as recently as last month , they recently as last month, they were still voting to raise interest rates. but the money markets do believe that interest rates are going to come down soon. that's why on this lower than expected inflation number, you already saw mortgage companies adjusting their standard variable rates or saying that they would soon. so this is better if you're trying to get a mortgage. if you've got a fixed rate mortgage on the other hand, nigel, as know other hand, nigel, as you know as well i do many news as well as i do many gb news viewers listeners, there'll viewers and listeners, there'll be living on fixed be older people living on fixed incomes, on their incomes, living on their savings. don't the savings. they don't like the fact interest have fact that interest rates have been, you know, ultra low for many years, less than the rate of years. so of inflation for many years. so negative real they negative in real terms, they like fact interest like the fact that interest rates are now 5.25% and inflation is 3.4, because for

the first time in a long time, they're getting a real return on their savings and they're meant to be encouraged to save in this country, we may well head down to 2% inflation. think we will to 2% inflation. i think we will quite soon. and then that's why the england will again the bank of england will again be behind the curve. be way behind the curve. >> but what's mad about this is it seems that the bank of england is judged purely on the inflation there's inflation figure. there's something there called something out there called growth and i'm wondering, growth and i'm just wondering, liam, is inflation coming liam, as is inflation coming down, also a symptom that effectively the uk economy has flatlined for the last two years. yeah, we've barely grown. >> i mean, in per capita terms, we've shrunk for the last six quarters, which is unbelievable. what does that mean? what's that mad bloke on the telly talking about? what i'm saying is gdp is the sum total of goods and services produced in the economy each . per capita is each year. gdp per capita is just that amount per head . it's just that amount per head. it's a very rough and ready, but a good definition of living standards . good definition of living standards. our good definition of living standards . our living standards standards. our living standards have been in this have been falling in this country, least because the

country, not least because the population has been rising so rapidly . but population has been rising so rapidly. but look in these numbers today in these offices for national statistics numbers, the headline number that we'll all read about is 4 to 3.4. within that, a couple of things i just wanted to highlight, if i may, that i think gb news viewers and listeners will find it interesting. food inflation is now at 4.5, so it's still higher than actual inflation. but a year ago it was 19% a 45 year high. shoppers know that food prices are still going up, but they're going up now a lot less quickly than they were. petrol prices february 23rd compared to last month , they've compared to last month, they've actually gone down. petrol is 4% cheaper than february a year ago. bear with me , diesel is 11% ago. bear with me, diesel is 11% cheaper than february 12 months ago. but in the last couple of weeks, of course , petrol and weeks, of course, petrol and diesel prices have been nudging back up again. taxi drivers watching gb news you can stop shouting at me now. i am also a motorist. why is that happening? because the oil price has been

ticking up and i don't want to be a moaning minnie. i don't want to be some kind of, you know, person putting a downer on this, you know, generally good news for the economy because when comes more when inflation comes down, more investment will investment interest rates will come down. more growth, more consumption, feelings of consumption, more feelings of prosperity . but my concern is prosperity. but my concern is that the oil price rise, the oil price is creeping up, wholesale gas prices are creeping up. that will feed into inflation. they're creeping up because of geopolitics , because of wars geopolitics, because of wars around the world. >> red sea all of that. >> the red sea all of that. >> the red sea all of that. >> the red sea all of that. >> the opec exporters cartel, they're pretty good at jacking up oil prices when they need to. and the russians, who aren't part of opec hand in now part of opec hand in glove. now with jacking oil with the saudis jacking oil pnces with the saudis jacking oil prices up oil prices. nigel, you're an ex commodities trader up 11% in the last ten days. thatis up 11% in the last ten days. that is not pretty. the monetary policy committee will be looking at that too. if they've got any sense. >> yeah that is a real i think i think what's happening in the red sea is a very real risk.

absolutely. this summer. liam halligan as ever, thank you for joining me in a moment. unbelievable. a survey showing that up to 20% of police officers have simply had enough and are on the verge of jacking it in. what on earth has gone wrong? but more importantly, what can we do to try and prevent it

? a big survey of 7 a big survey of current serving police officers. showing that up to 20% of them are thinking about quitting the force and doing so within the next year or two. what on earth is going wrong ? the problem, of course, wrong? the problem, of course, is that those that go will be the experienced ones to be replaced by inexperienced ones . replaced by inexperienced ones. kevin hurley, former detective chief superintendent at the met police joins me from his home in surrey. kevin this figure is

shocking , really alarming. shocking, really alarming. >> and nigel, i come from a family of nine metropolitan police officers. my own son resigned last year with 16 years service. as you said, a very experienced detective sergeant on the anti—terrorist squad. been on grenfell murder been on the grenfell murder inquiry, inquiries just murder inquiries before, just lost to the organisation, to the private sector. i've got two nephews still in on the flying squad, so i'm pretty much up to date but date with what's going on, but what do about it ? oh, i what can we do about it? oh, i think it's already going a bit too far , the terms and too far, the terms and conditions have really dropped off under theresa may's, what i would describe as an attack on the police service, where their pay the police service, where their pay has really dropped off, spending power down about 22% on what it once was . and worse what it once was. and worse still, the golden handcuffs, which were once the excellent police pension have been taken away and the pension is now much reduced. so there's no reason

for people at the 15 year point to stay on to get their 30 in when they're already a very attractive item to be taken up by, you know, the big four accountants, the banks and so on.andin accountants, the banks and so on. and in fact, the rail companies take on loads and loads of uniform constables as train drivers because of their decision making and problem solving skills, which is exactly what you need for a train drive. the other thing that's killing them is the constant media and activist battering for police officers. i mean, i can tell you about what it's like to be a police officer, to go to a christening or a wedding or a barbecue and be constantly hounded by people criticising the police about something that they've read or heard about that happenedin they've read or heard about that happened in scotland. durham cornwall, london or kent. you just get sick of it and in the end you say, well, i'm a life assurance salesman. actually are you covered? and then people go away. i mean, i'm joking. >> i never thought this. i never

thought that, i never i >> i never thought this. i never thought that, i neveri never thought that, i never i never thought that, i never i never thought that, i never i never thought that policemen would join the list of estate agents and politicians as being that unpopular. but surely, i mean, you've been involved with the force for a long, long time. surely the police have always had a fair degree of stick. >> no, i mean, you're correct , >> no, i mean, you're correct, but, you know, the point about being in the police is you're not there to be loved. you're there to keep the king's peace , there to keep the king's peace, if like, enforce the law and if you like, enforce the law and stand between bullies and stand between the bullies and the dishonest thugs and the innocent vulnerable people. innocent and vulnerable people. and that means necessarily, you're not going to be liked by everyone. but that's not not the issue. what's going is issue. what's going on now is this constant chip, chip, chip off of that one off the back of that one psychopath and the, the other , psychopath and the, the other, if you like, tinder rapist. everybody now thinks the police are kind of all like that. what that means is the individual patrol officers, they're being given stick everywhere . for given stick everywhere. for example, you know, their bosses left , right example, you know, their bosses left, right and example, you know, their bosses left , right and centre example, you know, their bosses left, right and centre are

rolling over. oh, yes. we're institutionally racist. what that means for a 25 year old constable working in balham high street is everyone screaming at him? you're a racist pig. they get surrounded on the streets when they try and do a stop and search on arrest. and frankly , a search on arrest. and frankly, a lot of them are just thinking it's not worth it. add to that the fact that the criminal justice system is collapsing . justice system is collapsing. they're tipping out the prisons with releases . so because with early releases. so because of course, there's no prison space cases are taking years to get to court. they're getting derisory offences sentences because there's no room in the prisons . all of that's really prisons. all of that's really demoralising for the police and build on top of that, the so—called independent office of police conduct. they're effectively scalp hunters who will do anything to put a police officer either before the courts or at a disciplinary hearing. it's a it's a perfect storm that's adding up to people going. and i have to say, i absolutely loved it. nigel. people would have said i was an aspirational leader, but i

wouldn't do it again, knowing what the terms and conditions are like. and i wouldn't encourage anyone now to join the police service. and no, i'm deeply sad that my son has left. i'm very happy for him that he's got his life back. so what? i don't know what that's saying, but i think it's saying we're in trouble. you know, only today we heard 500 boat people came into the country. lord knows where they're from. lord knows what their background is. but virtually every one of them is an economic migrant. they'd all be chancers and risk takers , or be chancers and risk takers, or they wouldn't make the journey. i blame but when i don't blame them, but when you've got that demographic happening day , we're happening every day, we're seeing massive changes to the populations in our inner cities everywhere. and it isn't. police like it. once did. once was because the police don't physically have the numbers. so i'io. 110. >> no. >> well, as a society, i have to say they are nigel at one point they are the bricks and mortar . they are the bricks and mortar. >> they hold the economy together and they enable people together and they enable people to go about to, to work, if you

like. and if the mortar between the bricks falls apart, then we're in big trouble. and you've only got to look at failed nafions only got to look at failed nations everywhere else around the world, or steadily ones and steadily failing ones to see what it does to the economy and the quality of life of the residents. when the criminal justice system collapses . justice system collapses. >> what? kevin hurley that was thoroughly depressing , but i thoroughly depressing, but i think probably very realistic. thank you. goodness me. now there's big political change happening everywhere. we talked about ireland just a moment ago, but there was a general election last week in portugal and a new party or new ish party has come third and secured 48 seats in the parliament in portugal. and of course, the political class in portugal are horrified, as are many right across europe, because this party has been critical of the behaviour of the roma in portugal. this party supports chemical castration for paedophiles and serious sex

offenders. this party, of course, is far right. offenders. this party, of course, is far right . the offenders. this party, of course, is far right. the bbc will tell you the party is far right . well, why don't we have a right. well, why don't we have a chat with andre ventura, president of the portuguese political party chega, which is portuguese for enough . and, portuguese for enough. and, andre, welcome to the show. and yeah , you know, i mean to come yeah, you know, i mean to come from nowhere and come third in the general election was a major, major achievement, but but what is it about you that the portuguese establishment really don't like ? really don't like? >> thank you. thank you very much. it's an honour. and nigel, it's an honour to meet you. and ihave it's an honour to meet you. and i have a conversation with you. it's a it's a big honour for me, indeed , only one small. indeed, only one small. correction. we had 48 seats, and now today we are finally checking the results. the final results . and we are 50, 50 seats

results. and we are 50, 50 seats on the on the parliament. because now we count our immigrants in england and in france and in germany. so now the final count , was done. and the final count, was done. and we are we are about 50 members of parliament and nearly 20, 20% of parliament and nearly 20, 20% of the vote, they don't like because it was the first time in portugal that the party said that we can no longer be sustaining all these people living with the money of the workers, living off the money with the people who works. we have a lot of problems in portugal, of people who just don't want to work. they just live off the money of the people who works or worked in their lives. we have a strong problem now with immigration as well. we are getting a lot of uncontrolled immigration and the socialist government just opened the doors and said, everybody can come, everybody can come get our money, get everything without having any responsibility . and it's the responsibility. and it's the first time we have a party that

it attacks strongly attacks the corruption , the political corruption, the political corruption, the political corruption of the system. i think that's the reason they don't like me. and that's the reason they don't like. >> okay. and i mean, you know, people look at your slogans, they look andre at the policies that you campaign on and they say, well , this really is say, well, this really is a rerun of salazar , who of course, rerun of salazar, who of course, up until the mid 1970s was a political dictator in portugal. and to be fair, your slogans are quite similar to his. yeah it's an important thing every time in portugal , the left is defeated. portugal, the left is defeated. they try to call the people who win or or got better. they call us far right extremists and fascist everything, what we said was that when i was born. when i was that when i was born. when i was born, salazar has already died a long time ago , and the

died a long time ago, and the old regime has already gone, we said simple things like god, family, homeland , you know, all family, homeland, you know, all these conservative values that unite us all across europe, in england and france and spain, in germany. so i just spoke out that why can we talk about god on public, on the public sphere? why can we not be at the parliament like i am a member of parliament? and why can i why can i not say anything about religion or about god in portugal? now, if you speak about god or religion, you are a fascist . you are an ultra far fascist. you are an ultra far right, why can you speak ? why right, why can you speak? why can you not be proud of your history and your past and your long achievements that the portuguese got in the world? so i believe that's only an excuse. let's say like this. an excuse for them to attack us. say they cannot defeat us in the polls, so they attack us with these ridiculous things, you know? >> no, listen, it's been really fascinating to have you on, to introduce you to a british

audience . i know we're going to audience. i know we're going to hear more of you. and. and, of course, our country's, between us have the oldest alliance in the world. it goes back about 800 years, and we're going to watch portuguese politics now with a lot more interest than we did before. i hope so, andre. thank you very much indeed for joining us. now, the what the farage moment has to be the new chief executive officer of the natwest banking group this morning, appearing before a parliamentary committee . have listen. >> significant majority of our exits , over 97% in information exits, over 97% in information that's previously been provided to the committee are for fraud or financial crime reasons. so any, any exits outside of that that are a very small number. one of the reasons for that could be reputational concerns, but it's an absolute minority. it could, for example, be where customers are not operating within the terms and conditions of their accounts, maybe operating a business account through account, or through a personal account, or their account activity is different what was expected, different to what was expected, for example, very high cash

usage. so in summary, reputational risk is a very small number in the context of the account exits . the account exits. >> so what's changed if you used too much cash in your business natwest don't want you. if you have any payments coming into your business or personal account that are unusual, it'll light up an alarm bell to say you could be a money launderer. i don't see culturally, frankly, that anything's changed. i know the government have proposed legislation where we need it pretty blooming quickly now. the real what? the farage moment bigger that is . we've got bigger than that is. we've got the coming the the euros coming up, the football of this year. football in june of this year. and new england strip has and the new england strip has been revealed and well, okay, that's fine. that looks okay. until we go and have a look at the saint george's cross or at least their interpretation . and least their interpretation. and that's it. it's a multicoloured cross. it bears no relationship to the cross of saint george. what what so ever. and if the england football team think

that's acceptable, well, why on earth, why on earth would you be apologetic about englishness? if you're going to play for england in the european football finals, i think it's an absolute joke at the moment. let's talk about trump and the 100% behind nato. if they pay their money, why did the bbc refuse to mention that

? 7 by ? by far the 7 by far the most important part of the sit down with donald trump was the thing about nato. i've been telling you, everyone's been using it. america's going to leave. we've got to have a european defence union. and one possibly with military weapons. so i asked him, what happens poland is him, what happens if poland is invaded and just remind ourselves this is what he said ? ourselves this is what he said? >> yeah, but, you know, the united states should pay its fair share, not everybody else's

fair share, not everybody else's fair share. no. no fair enough. i believe the united states was paying i believe the united states was paying 90% of nato. the cost of nato could be 100. it was the most unfair thing. and don't forget, it's more important to them than it is to us. we have an ocean in between some problems. okay? we have a nice big, beautiful ocean and it's more important for them. they would take an advantage and they did. they took advantage of us on and took on trade and they took advantage. on trade and they took aden age. on trade and they took aden agthey play fair, if they >> on if they play fair, if they start to play fair, america's there. >> yes, 100, 100. >> it was on the front page of the times. it's been right across the press. it's been talked about not just here, but in europe too. it is fundamentally important. and yet you'd thought, wouldn't you'd have thought, wouldn't you, with large polish you, with a large polish community living that community living here, that would interest to that would be of interest to that community. many of them, of course, the licence course, paying the bbc licence fee, the bbc we've been fee, the bbc and we've been through website from top through their website from top to have i've not to bottom, have i've not mentioned the fact trump mentioned the fact that trump said that which i think is absolutely appalling, but perhaps not surprising now. con coughlin, defence and foreign

affairs editor at the telegraph this was quite an important statement , wasn't it? statement, wasn't it? >> it's a very important statement and very reassuring because, as you say , nigel, because, as you say, nigel, there's been a lot of speculation about the americans and where they are. the americans been complaining americans have been complaining about other nations, particularly in europe, not paying particularly in europe, not paying their fair share, going back to the bush administration . back to the bush administration. and before coming, i was just looking up the figures. ten years ago, only three member states of nato paid their fair share. yeah, right. that was ten years ago. now it's up to about 18 or 19. that still leaves in excess of ten countries who are not meeting their 2% of gdp minimum requirement. so there's still work to be done. and i think what trump has said has really encouraged the europeans to raise their game. and then, of course, you know, you've just had putin re—elected at the weekend. the first thing he said after in his election press conference, post—election press conference, post—election press conference was he's talking about world war iii. so, i mean ,

about world war iii. so, i mean, if people don't realise what the threat is in europe today, then they must be bonkers. >> yeah. and the fact that he talks about potentially using nuclear weapons, i mean, all of this , this is all bluff. yeah, this, this is all bluff. yeah, but it's pretty appalling, isn't it? how vulnerable would a country like moldova be? >> very . >> oh, very. >> oh, very. >> i mean, it would be a walkover. i mean, just look at, the size of the russian military . i mean, they've taken 400,000 casualties in two years in ukraine. they're still there. they're still pressing forward. they're still pressing forward. they don't care about the casualty rates, unlike the rest of us. so, you know, a small little enclave like moldova would, would be very, very vulnerable as. but it's not just moldova . i mean, you've got, you moldova. i mean, you've got, you know, the whole baltic area is under threat. you've mentioned poland. i mean, if, if the key thing if putin wins in ukraine, then nato is next. and i think putin's made that clear. and so when you look at the europeans ,

when you look at the europeans, you know, including us, i mean, we're still just nudging above the 2% minimum requirement. we should be looking at 3% of gdp. >> well, grant shapps said this the other day, the defence secretary didn't he? >> and there was a good >> he did. and there was a good report out today with people like sedwill, the former like mark sedwill, the former national adviser, national security adviser, george you know, one george robertson, you know, one of a really successful nato secretary—general. these people are we not equipped. are saying we are not equipped. the army is run down. it's too small. you know, it needs we need to rearm deal with the need to rearm to deal with the threat from putin. and a labour government that comes in with a big majority. >> how does it where does it put defence in terms of its priorities? >> well, making the >> well, they're making the right noises. and actually when you at labour governments, you look at labour governments, they sometimes sort of overcompensate they sometimes sort of overc excess sate they sometimes sort of overc excess aspects. a labour have excess aspects. a labour government really not to take defence seriously, but they overcompensate. and we saw that with blair. but of course, putting the money where their mouth is , is the real key. they mouth is, is the real key. they haven't done that in the past in fact, a lot of the black hole

problems that jacob would know about that the tories inherited when they came in in 2010 was because gordon brown, first as chancellor and then as prime minister, provide minister, didn't provide adequate funding. so, you know, they've to raise their game too. >> yeah. and with what trump has said and he couldn't have been clearer 100% do we stop this clearer 100% do we now stop this debate about a european defence union or will they keep on pushing in brussels. >> they will keep on pushing in brussels they will. and you've seen this with the you mentioned earlier your programme, the earlier in your programme, the hoofie earlier in your programme, the hootie sea hootie problem of the red sea and has put together and the eu has put together a naval task force to rival the what the americans are british are doing, but they've been given a mandate to not take any action. i mean, it's a non—aggressive i bet the french aren't involved. they're not. they're keeping their distance. >> funny that scotland, thank you coming and joining you for coming in and joining us. jacob's here with me. us. and jacob's here with me. yes. i was pleased to get yes. i was very pleased to get trump to say that really trump to say that it really mattered, trump to say that it really ma'oh,id, fundamental >> oh, it was fundamental because it the biggest because it was the biggest criticism trump was that he criticism of trump was that he was dangerous because he wouldn't nato against,

wouldn't back nato against, aggressive aggressors and particularly putin. and particularly against putin. and he said, pay your fair share. and i'm in. and as con was saying now 18 member states pay up and he can point to that and say, actually, when i first became president, yes, i've done that. >> i've done nato a favour. no, he did that stoltenberg he did say that stoltenberg liked him, the secretary—general. now, jacob, liked him, the secreté been aneral. now, jacob, liked him, the secreté been ateral. now, jacob, liked him, the secreté been at the now, jacob, liked him, the secreté been at the 1922 jacob, committee. >> i've been at the 1922. >> i've been at the 1922. >> how how happy families in the conservative party. >> we a nest of singing >> we are a nest of singing birds, to coin a phrase . birds, to coin a phrase. >> what have you got? >> what have you got? >> well, i must talk about rwanda and the house of lords. obstructing the british people. piers against the people. never works for the piers . and i think works for the piers. and i think in that arrogance and self—righteousness, they are overreaching. >> jacob, i agree with that. but you know , even when even when you know, even when even when this legislation does go through, it will then be the judiciary who seem to delight these days in overruling a government from an elected parliament. will that debate's going to go on for many , many

going to go on for many, many years. well, enough from me. as you can imagine, i'm somewhat tired and we'll be getting to bed relatively early this evening. see you tomorrow at 7:00. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on . gb news evening. weather on. gb news evening. >> welcome to your latest weather update from the met office for gb news. most of england and wales will be dry and bright after a bit of a dull start. scotland and northern ireland turning wet and increasingly windy tomorrow thanks this weather system thanks to this weather system approaching atlantic, approaching from the atlantic, we've of weather we've had this set of weather fronts sitting us today fronts sitting across us today made a pretty damp day for made for a pretty damp day for parts england and wales. parts of england and wales. still few heavy showers around still a few heavy showers around through tending through the evening, but tending to clear away, most becoming dry through until that through the night until that next rain makes for next band of rain makes for a damp start over the highlands and west northern ireland and the west of northern ireland on morning could be on thursday morning could be quite murky across the south tomorrow lot of mist, tomorrow as well. a lot of mist, a low cloud settling in through the night, so don't be surprised

if it's not little drab . first if it's not a little drab. first thing on thursday morning. could even fog patches around. even be some fog patches around. it steadily clear through even be some fog patches around. it morning adily clear through even be some fog patches around. it morning andi clear through even be some fog patches around. it morning and then r through even be some fog patches around. it morning and then r throiof1 the morning and then most of england and wales. dry and bright, of patchy rain bright, a bit of patchy rain could affect north wales. northern times northern england at times certainly wet in western scotland that rain from scotland that rain moving from west to east across northern ireland to brightening up perhaps far perhaps across the far northwest. it will be windy northwest. but it will be windy here, blustery conditions throughout a little throughout and turning a little colder elsewhere. still pretty mild a bit brightness. mild with a bit of brightness. in south, we could easily in the south, we could easily see temperatures the see those temperatures into the mid more . we will see mid teens once more. we will see the rain trickling further south as through the night. a as we go through the night. a damp parts of the damp start across parts of the south rain perhaps south that rain perhaps lingering until lunchtime across south that rain perhaps lingsouth—east.jnchtime across south that rain perhaps lingsouth—east. blustery across south that rain perhaps lingsouth—east. blustery showers the south—east. blustery showers coming in behind, particularly for scotland and northern ireland, with some on the ireland, with some snow on the hills a colder feel. it is hills and a colder feel. it is going to turn chillier for all of us to end this week into the weekend. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on gb news.

>> hello. good evening. it's me. jacob rees—mogg on state of the nation. tonight, the house of lords has determined the fate of the rwanda plan. and it is a defeat for the democratic will of the people. but when will we see the deportation flights take off? inflation has fallen to its lowest point in two and a half years, which means rishi sunak has achieved one of his five key pledges. the metric he asked us to judge him by. but now all eyes are on the ostriches of the bank of england, which needs to start cutting interest rates. the business secretary, kemi badenoch , has damned the uk's badenoch, has damned the uk's diversity drive, which she claims has backfired. surely it's claims has backfired. surely wsfime claims has backfired. surely it's time to abolish that unwanted inheritance of new laboun unwanted inheritance of new labour, the equality act, plus a speculation continues regarding the princess of wales and her well—being. i'll be discussing the privacy of royalty and other pubuc the privacy of royalty and other public figures. state of the

nafion public figures. state of the nation starts now. i'll also be joined by my most pugnacious panel this evening. former editor of the sun, kelvin mackenzie , and the historian and mackenzie, and the historian and broadcaster tessa dunlop. as always , as you know, i want to always, as you know, i want to hear from you. it's a crucial part of the programme. email me mailmogg@gbnews.com. but now it's your favourite part of the day. the news with polly middlehurst. >> so kind jacob. good evening to you. well, the top story from the gb newsroom tonight is passage of the government's flagship rwanda bill is now delayed until after easter, when mps will have vote on it once mps will have to vote on it once again after several votes against it by the house of lords today , our political editor, today, our political editor, christopher hope, the latest christopher hope, has the latest for trouble here in parliament, where peers have again frustrated attempts by rishi sunak to pass into law his