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enough? chancellor jeremy hunt says it's not a huge salary. what do you make of that? my great british debaters will be going head to head on this over his claims and imagine being people traffic . my guest at five people traffic. my guest at five in outside will be here to share her harrowing story and her inspirational campaign against the practice. you will not want to miss that . and why was my to miss that. and why was my producer alex, fined £150? was it a spitting gum? was it b skipping a q? was it c picking his nose? stay tuned to find out. but first let's get your latest news headlines . latest news headlines. >> very good afternoon to you. it is a minute past three i'm aaron armstrong in the gb newsroom. some breaking news for you. russia's black sea fleet is newsroom. some breaking news for you. functionally ck sea fleet is newsroom. some breaking news for you. functionally inactive .eet is newsroom. some breaking news for you. functionally inactive .et is now functionally inactive. that's according to the defence secretary. after a massive ukrainian missile strike on sevastopol. this was the moment

to russian navy vessels were targeted and struck. the security sources have told gb news that uk supplied storm shadow missiles were used in the strike. a major military communication centre has also been damaged. it marks the largest attack on the russian controlled ports in the war so far , as tensions in the region far, as tensions in the region continue to escalate . islamic continue to escalate. islamic state has released new footage which appears to back up the terror group's claim . it was terror group's claim. it was behind friday's attack in moscow that killed 137 people. we've chosen not to show that video. russia, however, continues to point the finger at kyiv, claiming it arrested four suspects attempting to escape across the border into ukraine. you can see here the four men being taken into custody in moscow for interrogation in

russian authorities, as i said, have risen , the number have have risen, the number have lifted, the number of people killed to 137. the white house says islamic state's claims of responsibility for the attack is credible . the prince and credible. the prince and princess of wales have said they're enormously touched by they're enormously touched by the kind messages of support catherine announced her cancer diagnosis on friday and revealed she's started preventative chemotherapy. a statement from kensington palace also says the couple are grateful the public understand their request for privacy. the chancellor has defended the government's record on affordable housing after claiming £100,000 a year is not a huge salary . jeremy hunt says a huge salary. jeremy hunt says it doesn't go far, not as not as far as people would think, at least in his surrey constituency . amid higher house prices and the rising cost living , the the rising cost of living, the average home now costs around eight times the average income. it was half that in the 1990s. the chancellor told camilla tominey. lower taxes will make a difference to average house pnces difference to average house prices in that part of the

world. >> £670,000 if you've got a mortgage, if you're paying child care, what looks like a very high salary doesn't go as far as you might think it would. if you look at the average salary in this country, £35,000, they have been feeling the pinch. and those people will see their tax bills go down by £900 this year. if you look at people on an even lower salary, the lowest legally payable salary, the national living wage, because i've increased that to £11.44, they will see if they're working full time. their income go up by £1,800 as well. >> labour party chair anneliese dodds says tax rises are to blame and has promised changes under a labour government. >> there's a big difference, kamila , between what labour is kamila, between what labour is setting out, especially on taxation and what we're seeing under the conservatives. we've seen taxes going up 25 times under the conservatives our instinct is always to make sure

that working people are not paying that working people are not paying the price for government mistakes . paying the price for government mistakes. that's paying the price for government mistakes . that's what's mistakes. that's what's happened, i'm afraid, under the conservatives. so of course, our approach would always be to try and reduce that impact on working people. we've seen the opposite, i'm afraid. under recent conservative governments , recent conservative governments, chilling levels of harassment are posing a serious threat to social cohesion. >> that's according to an independent government adviser. a review led by dame saira khan will be published tomorrow, showing more than 75% of the pubuc showing more than 75% of the public feel they can't speak their mind . public feel they can't speak their mind. it public feel they can't speak their mind . it suggests many their mind. it suggests many people feel society has become more divisive , and cites the more divisive, and cites the case of a teacher who went into hiding after showing a caricature of the prophet muhammad during a class. dame sarah says journalists, teachers and people working in the arts are subjected to severe levels of abuse , often resulting in of abuse, often resulting in self—censorship. it's understood the report will recommend a series of measures, including a ban on protests within 150m of

schools, and china is believed to be targeting britain with a wave of cyber attacks aimed at disrupting the democratic system. the deputy prime minister, oliver dowden , is minister, oliver dowden, is expected to warn mps tomorrow about state backed interference in britain's political system by chinese hackers. it's understood some chinese officials were summoned by parliament's director of security in relation to the cyber threats. it comes a year after a report found britain is unprepared for a large scale ransomware attack because of a lack of investment , because of a lack of investment, and simon harris is set to become ireland's youngest prime minister after no other candidates to lead his fine gael party came forward. it follows the surprise resignation of leo varadkar on wednesday for what he described as personal and political reasons . at the age of political reasons. at the age of just 37, mr harris will be ireland's youngest taoiseach. he's expected to be formally elected in april after the easter recess . well, for the

easter recess. well, for the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts. scan the qr code on your screen or go to our website. now it's back to . nana. website. now it's back to. nana. >> good afternoon. it's just coming up to eight minutes after 3:00. i'm nana akua. this is gb news news. welcome to the clash. first, though, shame on those who embarked on a journey of conspiracy theory about princess catherine. i personally couldn't work out what all the fuss was about and said leave her alone, poor woman. but some people showed their true colours. owen jones, for one, has now issued a grovelling apology after his ridiculous conspiracy theory. he had previously claimed to be obsessed. oh my god, he had expressed an. on learning of catherine's diagnosis, he later tweeted as someone who speculated on this without considering it could be a serious health condition, i'm very ashamed to be honest and all the very best to her silly

little man. at least he had the wherewithal to apologise . wherewithal to apologise. actress blake lively, another one who has also issued a grovelling apology for an ill advised jibe about photoshop before she learnt of catherine's diagnosis , was writing on diagnosis, was writing on instagram. she said i'm sure no one cares today but i feel like ihave one cares today but i feel like i have to acknowledge this . i i have to acknowledge this. i made a silly post around the photoshop sales frenzy and oh man, that post has me mortified today. i'm sorry. sending love and well wishes to all always, even global stars like kim kardashian, who commented to her over 100 million followers by posting a snap on instagram of herself leaning up against a car and appearing to refer to the royal and all the gossip, as she told fans on my way to find kate. she's facing backlash from her followers to take it down when you have a platform, you must attempt to use it wisely. they knew that catherine was ill

and having surgery, but were totally irresponsible in their actions, coming up with unfounded, ridiculous theories. of course, everyone's entitled to their opinion and catherine is a high profile figure, but their behaviour was silly and cruel. well, now they have the truth. at least though they have the grace to acknowledge their mistake and apologise. but one positive that has come out of all of this is that scientists are now looking into why so many young, healthy people are getting abdominal cancers . so in getting abdominal cancers. so in summary, as owen jones issues a grovelling apology and joins other luvvies in apologising for speculating on the princess of wales's health, is more regulation of social media the answer ? so before we get stuck answer? so before we get stuck into the debates over the next houn into the debates over the next hour, let me introduce you to my clashers joining me today is gb news senior political commentator, nigel nelson and

also businessman activist adam brooks. well here's what else is coming up in this hour. should we have more regulation on social media? what are your thoughts as the fallout of the vile theories vile conspiracy theories surrounding the princess of wales's continue ? should wales's health continue? should we crack down on social media to combat misinformed nation? then how about this? the tories are at it again, aren't they? do you think it's time they ditched the idea of a leadership race? as penny mordaunt and tom tugendhat names swirl in plots to oust rishi, would a change of leader save the party? of course it wouldn't. and then, should we ban protests outside schools as an independent adviser for social cohesion advises that buffer zones , outside schools buffer zones, outside schools and a west yorkshire teacher is still in hiding should be protected. so what do you think? should there be some sort of buffer zone? and then isis bndes buffer zone? and then isis brides, should they be allowed to return to the uk? as 19 british jihadi brides have been found in syria, are they still britain's responsibility ? and britain's responsibility? and the final question we'll ask is

should israel be banned from the eurovision , known as rio as a eurovision, known as rio as a rio cinema in london says it will be boycotting this year's contest because of israel. so should they be blackballed from the competition that's coming up in the next hour? tell me what you think of everything we're discussing. email gbviews@gbnews.com or tweet me at . gb news. so let's get at. gb news. so let's get started. welcome again to my clash of senior gb news political commentator nigel nelson also businessman and activist adam brooks. adam brooks, to come you brooks, i'm going to come to you first. what you feel about first. what do you feel about this all this particular incident? all that backlash that they're getting? they opened their mouths rubbish and mouths and talked rubbish and now it's coming to haunt them. >> i've got big >> someone with i've got a big twitter platform or x, i know twitter platform or x, so i know whatever say can come back whatever you say can come back to haunt you. so i'm pretty pleased that i sort of stayed out of this kate middleton saga . out of this kate middleton saga. i was actually away a few weeks ago and i came back and i

tweeted saying, i've been away out of the country three days and i've come back and apparently dead. and i've come back and appoh,|tly dead. and i've come back and appoh,|tly you dead. and i've come back and appoh,|tly you know dead. and i've come back and appoh,|tly you know she's not >> oh, god, you know she's not dead, no, you know, >> oh, god, you know she's not dead, split, no, you know, >> oh, god, you know she's not dead, split, splitting>u know, >> oh, god, you know she's not dead, split, splitting upznow, >> oh, god, you know she's not dead, split, splitting up with she's split, splitting up with william, and i put, like, a massive lull sort of thing, as if to what ridiculous . if to say, what a ridiculous. what is this about? what is this all about? >> now, the serious thing is here is that of the trust here is that a lot of the trust has gone from our institutions, our governments, from covid. >> we was bombarded with so much misinformation on, that was purported as the truth back then that, you know, certainly i don't trust our government . i don't trust our government. i don't trust our government. i don't trust our government. i don't trust a lot of the medical world either. so that trust has gone. and i think the same with maybe the royal news. but i think the palace actually threw kate under the bus. do you think? yeah. because you know , think? yeah. because you know, she wasn't seen for many months. there could have been a statement. say, look, please respect privacy. there's respect our privacy. there's something told by something wrong. i was told by someone in the media that she wasn't well a good few weeks ago. so that's another reason i sort out. ago. so that's another reason i son but out. ago. so that's another reason i son but this out. ago. so that's another reason i son but this could. ago. so that's another reason i son but this could have ago. so that's another reason i sonbut this could have been >> but this could have been stopped.

>> a lot of these conspiracies, you know , why put a photo out you know, why put a photo out there that they had to kill there that they then had to kill in the media, and withdraw because it been manipulated, because it had been manipulated, but a lot of their pictures are manipulated. >> that's just i know, but that's not all. >> so basically it goes back to the covid, sort of era lack of information and misinformation causes conspiracies and we had both here. we had a lack of information and then a picture come out that blatantly had been doctored belief . so it's doctored beyond belief. so it's going to it's going to stir people up. but a lot of these celebrity posts that i read, they're quite embarrassing , to they're quite embarrassing, to be fair. and they should they should be feel embarrassed , and should be feel embarrassed, and a lot of people and people that actually come on this show , not actually come on this show, not this show, this, this channel have tweets as well, you have deleted tweets as well, you know, so, i think it makes you realise that whatever you put on social media, you've got to own really. >> well, i did a monologue, but i said, poor catherine, i don't understand what all the furore is about, about a photograph.

why they just leave her why don't they just leave her alone? ashamed alone? so i'm not ashamed of that at nigel nelson. that at all. nigel nelson. >> think that the >> yeah, well, i think that the first thing here is that, first thing thing here is that, kate is a public figure, but she's not public property. so the idea of treating research and speculating on her illness or whatever, people were speculating over , i just don't speculating over, i just don't think think it should be done in the first place. your point about tweet responsibly? absolutely the other thing, just to take adam adam up on his point that adam was saying that the palace should have done more , or i think that because she's not property , she must not public property, she must decide what is best for her and her family now, she decided that the she wanted to make a statement, but in her own good time. and for good reason. she had to deal with her young children . three children ten and children. three children ten and unden children. three children ten and under, tell them what is going on. obviously, she had to deal with william too. they both then had to deal with the family , and had to deal with the family, and when she finally came out, she chose the day that those

children are starting their easter school holidays. that means that they've now got several weeks that they can digest everything in private. as a as a loving family. digest everything in private. as a as a loving family . and that a as a loving family. and that was the way to do it. so if you look at the timing of it , i look at the timing of it, i think kate got it absolutely spot on. >> brilliant woman. yeah. >> brilliant woman. yeah. >> well, think it fuelled >> well, i think it fuelled madness. think it fuelled madness. i think it fuelled conspiracies and the lack of information sort of just amplified that because people were sitting here thinking, well, why isn't she here? >> but why do they need to know though? i just don't get why they be informed. they have to be informed. >> conspiracy theorists >> but the conspiracy theorists are for their own are responsible for their own conspiracy. you conspiracy. exactly. so you can't really blame blame kate or indeed i think that indeed the palace. i think that your point about the mother's day absolutely right . day picture. absolutely right. the advisors should have should have at that and, and have had a look at that and, and actually seen the problem with it and that news agencies would then refuse to disseminate it .

then refuse to disseminate it. >> but that was no different from many other pictures that have been, you know, manipulated by i mean, they by the palace. i mean, they found rustled of found they rustled up a load of other pictures been other pictures that have been have similar treatments. have had similar treatments. >> when >> yeah. i think that when you've where you've got a situation where there running you've got a situation where the|there, running you've got a situation where the|there, i running you've got a situation where the|there, i mean, running you've got a situation where the|there, i mean, we running you've got a situation where the|there, i mean, we seem1g you've got a situation where the|there, i mean, we seem to out there, i mean, we seem to have all agree that's wrong in the first place. what you don't do is put a picture out that respectable news agencies might choose to not send out or recall . we're in a different world now. we've got we've got ai out there. and that could have been a completely false picture because you can now create such things. >> who was the advisors? she didn't have an engagement ring. if you're an advisor , you know, if you're an advisor, you know, you look at that picture and think people are going to start picking up that. that was picking up on that. that was needless, opinion . no needless, in my opinion. no engagement ring or no ring. people are going to speculate . people are going to speculate. it doesn't matter if it was a princess or a celebrity , they're princess or a celebrity, they're going to speculate. the advisors let her down. that's absolutely right. >> that's my view too quickly. >> that's my view too quickly. >> one thing is open the door because we want to move open the

door for mainstream media figures calling figures to start calling for twitter and things to be shut down. and they'd love that because social media is taking over with the news. i don't want this to sort of lead to censorship. it mustn't do that. right. >> okay . and okay, well, let's >> okay. and okay, well, let's what are your thoughts? gb views gbviews@gbnews.com but we absolutely will respect kate because not to on because we're not going to go on and about on this and on about this, but on this subject, could what be rishi be on his last legs ? i don't know, on his last legs? i don't know, a core group of right wing tory mps have openly discussed housing rishi sunak and replacing him with a unity candidate such as tom tugendhat at a series of meetings. plotting against the prime minister has intensified in recent days. that's following the disclosure that mps on the right of the party were considering backing penny mordaunt as his successor. but would a change of leader save the tories dire position in the polls? so what do you think? should ditch their should they ditch their leadership start with leadership race? i'll start with you, no they shouldn't. >> i mean, this is a group of

not very clever , tory mps who not very clever, tory mps who are thinking this. they're so desperate because they can see themselves losing their seats. first of all, if they if it was to succeed , which it probably to succeed, which it probably won't, because most tory mps wouldn't back it . so it's so wouldn't back it. so it's so a it's not going to happen just supposing it did happen, they would have to be an instant general election. rishi sunak himself might call one because what else has he got to lose? but even if he didn't , the but even if he didn't, the pubuc but even if he didn't, the public are not going to stand. a third prime minister coming in without their consent. so the polls will be where they are . polls will be where they are. the tories will be will go into the general election even more divided than they are and will probably get wiped out. so this is really pretty dim thinking on behalf of the tory mps. i disagree really totally. >> because look at the end of the day, under rishi sunak, they are they are going to be annihilated. the polls are getting worse every week . some

getting worse every week. some of us forecast this last year he wasn't wanted by the members. he wasn't wanted by the members. he wasn't wanted by the members. he wasn't wanted by the voters. most mps didn't want rishi sunak as the prime minister. it was . as the prime minister. it was. it was a ridiculous decision. what they did, installing him as the leader of the conservatives and now they're paying for it. the only way this conservative party wins, they can't win. the election doesn't get annihilated , i should say is if they go further right and start tackling things like, illegal immigration and, and legal migration as well, because that is when i speak to people right wing. >> i mean, that's i don't even further know because there are lots of mps in this conservative party that shouldn't be conservative mps. >> they should be with the liberal democrats. you know, they're not true conservative. >> well, you could always argue that an awful lot them should that an awful lot of them should be on the be with reform on the on the right the party. right of the party. >> nigel, only way that the >> nigel, the only way that the polls, change of polls, the change in any sort of way, maybe five, ten points or more go with someone more is if they go with someone like a priti patel, robert

like a priti patel, a robert jenrick suella braverman. jenrick or a suella braverman. but point i'm making, the but the point i'm making, the mps not going that mps are not going to allow that to happen. >> the point i'm is that >> the point i'm making is that we're too to actually we're now too late to actually do they've they've tried do that. they've they've tried this. they got rid of boris. do that. they've they've tried this. of ey got rid of boris. do that. they've they've tried this. of all, ot rid of boris. do that. they've they've tried this. of all, theyi of boris. do that. they've they've tried this. of all, they replaced him first of all, they replaced him with liz truss. that was a complete disaster. we had they had to have a coronation for rishi sunak because they were so desperate. so none of these things are actually going to help terribly. yes. there's going to be a debate in the tory party about whether about the heart soul the party, heart and soul of the party, whether they should go more. right, right. whether they should centrist . bear in should be more centrist. bear in mind the british public, on the whole, are centrist rather than right left. right or left. >> illegal immigration and immigration is probably the most important thing that they could tackle . tackle. >> well, cost of living is the most thing in this election. so if they went someone a >> so if they went someone a little more line on little bit more hard line on illegal immigration, maybe someone with, you know, the balls start trying to turn balls to start trying to turn these boats back or leave the echr the idea that's, you know, that's a reform policy.

>> now, the idea of turning the boats back is a complete nonsense. all it would do is capsize boats and pitch women and children into the english channel and children into the english channel, where they very few women and children. >> and know that well, that >> and you know that well, that not few i've got. not that few i've got. >> i've got the, because i live in that i've got some of in kent, that i've got some of the, the, the hotels where migrants are staying around me and i've seen an awful lot of children there playing in car parks because that's all they've got. to construct got. they're trying to construct schools there schools for them. so there certainly some coming over. certainly are some coming over. i that mostly i do accept that it's mostly young , so turning the boats young men, so turning the boats back, it worked in australia . back, it worked in australia. australia has 190 miles of international waters between the australian mainland and indonesia , where the boats are indonesia, where the boats are bigger. you cannot start turning around dinghies. >> greece did it and just got a little rap on the knuckles from . little rap on the knuckles from. >> i think the and people drowned and people drown there, but think you go but i don't think you can go into election with a into an election with a with a manifesto, things, manifesto, manifesto, things, a manifesto, commitment okay, commitment saying, okay, well we'll kill people. commitment saying, okay, well we'i kill people. commitment saying, okay, well we'i believe kill people. commitment saying, okay, well

we'i believe thel people. commitment saying, okay, well we'i believe the people a. commitment saying, okay, well we'i believe the people i speak >> i believe the people i speak to on the street, i think he was saying kill people. >> think that's a big one. but >> i think that's a big one. but he's said that. >> i think that's a big one. but he"but said that. >> i think that's a big one. but he"but if;aid that. >> i think that's a big one. but he"but if youthat. >> i think that's a big one. but he"but if you turn the boats >> but if you turn the boats around, the whole point is the reason your boat, and around, the whole point is the reascyou your boat, and around, the whole point is the reascyou them ooat, and around, the whole point is the reascyou them ooat, aniwhere then you take them back to where they have come from. >> it's that's about >> if it's a boat that's about to sink, not going to put to sink, you're not going to put a and attach to your a string and attach it to your boat then turn it around. boat and then turn it around. come on. >> well well, well, mean, adam >> well well, well, i mean, adam was turning was talking about turning them around, was talking about turning them arorbut it's a turn phrase. >> but it's a turn of phrase. >> but it's a turn of phrase. >> all well, let's take >> all right, well, let's take take your your solution. take your your your solution. yeah. to it. take your your your solution. yeajust to it. take your your your solution. yeajust case to it. take your your your solution. yeajust case the to it. take your your your solution. yeajust case the boat. take your your your solution. yeajust case the boat is not >> just in case the boat is not seaworthy. then we seaworthy. if it is, then we then then put the migrants on on one boats them one of our boats and take them out to france is presumably what you're if you're suggesting. well, if their seaworthy. you're suggesting. well, if their right. seaworthy. you're suggesting. well, if the well, 1t. seaworthy. you're suggesting. well, if thewell,�*|t. noteaworthy. you're suggesting. well, if thewell,�*|t. noteawothem you're suggesting. well, if the well, 1t. not eawothem back >> well, why not take them back to what they're to dover, which is what they're doing now? >> because normally >> because what normally happens is the boat, which is they get on the boat, which is they get on the boat, which is don't . just is they don't. just because i find so incredible find it so incredible that people up this when people come up with this when they we pick up they know that when we pick up people their boats, we put people from their boats, we put them anyway. why them on our boat anyway. so why would if would that be any different if we're going direction we're going in that direction instead turning once instead of turning out once they're not going back. >> nigel. >> nigel. >> on the sorry. once >> on the boat. sorry. once they're boat. yeah which they're on the boat. yeah which was happen anyway, was what would happen anyway, right? reversing right? instead of reversing the

boat back the boat and coming back to the uk, you straight back france. >> yeah, the point is >> yeah, but the whole point is that that time, they'll have that by that time, they'll have to an english there to be an english waters. there are international waters are no international waters between calais, so the between dover and calais, so the french won't intervene with them unless they ask for help or they're in trouble. once they've crossed that border into british territory, we are then bound to take them back to british. >> you know what i would do? i'd say. yeah, yeah, yeah. and then i'd simply just carry on and drop off. in france, drop them back off. in france, the minister balls the prime minister with balls would what would do that. that's what i would do that. that's what i would do. listen, in my would do. but listen, in my opinion. listen, what do would do. but listen, in my opirthink? listen, what do would do. but listen, in my opirthink? views what do would do. but listen, in my opirthink? views gbnews.com. you think? gb views gbnews.com. that's i would do. that's exactly what i would do. they the boat they normally board the boat anyway, turning anyway, so instead of turning your and taking your boat around and taking them back you just get on back to the uk, you just get on that boat, they get your boat that boat, they get on your boat and keeps going the way and it just keeps going the way it going. it was going. >> enough that way. >> enough is enough that way. >> enough is enough that way. >> welcome if >> right? well welcome again. if you're join me. gb you're just join me. this is gb news online and on news on tv, online and on digital i'm nana akua digital radio. i'm nana akua coming should isis brides be coming up. should isis brides be allowed to return to the uk? as it's revealed that 19 it's been revealed that 19 british jihadi are being british jihadi brides are being held same detention

held in the same detention centre as meghan, so should they all to return? but all be allowed to return? but next, the government is set to be advised establish buffer be advised to establish buffer zones around schools after a teacher into hiding teacher was forced into hiding after showing pupils a cartoon of the prophet muhammad . so of the prophet muhammad. so should we ban protests outside schools

? good 7 good afternoon. it's just coming up to 28 minutes after 3:00. i'm nana akua, this is gb news. we are the people's channel. it is the clash . and it's time for the clash. and it's time for this next story. an official review is set to recommend that protests be banned outside schools. now this review, which has been led by the independent social cohesion adviser dame saira khan, highlights the case of a teacher who was forced into hiding after showing pupils at batley grammar school a cartoon of the prophet muhammad. now the incident sparked large protests

at the school and three years on, the teacher is still in hiding and suffers from ptsd or post—traumatic stress disorder . post—traumatic stress disorder. the dame savva's report is expected to recommend a series of measures, including a ban on protests within 150m of schools. well, let's welcome again to my clashes . political commentator clashes. political commentator nigel nelson, businessman clashes. political commentator nige activist n, businessman clashes. political commentator nigeactivist adam businessman clashes. political commentator nigeactivist adam brooks. ;sman clashes. political commentator nigeactivist adam brooks. nigel and activist adam brooks. nigel nelson, what do you think ? nelson, what do you think? >> i'm slightly uncomfortable with this. i mean, i think that it always depends on the protest, protest outside protest, a protest outside a school a protest school or indeed a protest anywhere. it shouldn't be intimidating, especially for children. i think that's really important because there is a safeguarding issue there. it should be within the law. but the of banning it seems to the idea of banning it seems to be a restriction on free speech, and that's the bit that i find difficult to cope with. if, for instance, palestinian protesters were chanting from the river to the sea outside a jewish school that would be anti—semitic, that would be breaching the law, the police would then move them on.

they wouldn't. >> so is it okay for them to chant it then in the streets? >> yes, is, because it's not >> yes, it is, because it's not necessarily anti—semitic. necessarily an anti—semitic. >> come on, not necessarily not move i don't care even move them on. i don't care even if was outside a jewish if it was outside a jewish school, have shown if it was outside a jewish schctier have shown if it was outside a jewish schctier policing. have shown if it was outside a jewish schctier policing. theyz shown if it was outside a jewish schctier policing. they would] two tier policing. they would not move that i'm sorry, not move that on. i'm sorry, nigel, the evidence is clear that the police are not acting with the palestinian protests. and i think, well, they say the police say they would. >> i mean, this is the point about that they would arrest anyone with a mask is the point about the would stop the about the child would stop the protest. is not about the child would stop the prnott. is not about the child would stop the prnot in is not about the child would stop the prnot in itself is not about the child would stop the prnot in itself anti—semitic|ot about the child would stop the prnot in itself anti—semitic ,t is not in itself anti—semitic, but it depends on the context and the interpretation of it. >> yeah. well, if you choose to interpret it as not anti—semitic, like you may be doing, fair enough. doing, that's fair enough. but the people and when the jewish people and when they're doing it in a protest at a march where are also a march where people are also calling would say calling forjihad, i would say at point it is absolutely anti—semitic. >> but but but if it's on a march, and unless it's actually aimed at jewish people, that's what i mean about a jewish school , a synagogue, it would be school, a synagogue, it would be anti—semitic quite

anti—semitic because it's quite obviously provocative, but the actual words aren't anti—semitic. what it means is a link between gaza on one side of the country and the west bank on the country and the west bank on the other. should there ever be a state of palestine, a lot of people believe it to mean something different, as in, i know do, but but i mean, know they do, but but i mean, a lot of people out the yes, lot of people wipe out the yes, indeed do . and that, the indeed they do. and that, the hamas probably believe that too. well, but hamas weren't the originators of the phrase. >> that's irrelevant who originated the phrase. and i think you hear people doing that and saying , think you hear people doing that and saying, but think you hear people doing that and saying , but person and saying, oh, but the person who it, yes, who initially did it, yes, yes, yes, irrelevant, yes, yes, that's irrelevant, because context of because in the context of a march is against, the war march which is against, the war in israel. yeah. which is obviously being started by hamas. people are shouting that, then i'm afraid it doesn't work for me. there's no there's no way of saying that. that's not i mean, going to protests mean, going back to protests outside schools, three kids. >> i'd be horrified if there was protest any protest. i don't protest of any protest. i don't care what they're protesting outside the school because it could scare them. and think it

could scare them. and i think it could scare them. and i think it could teachers and it could scare teachers and it could scare teachers and it could scare teachers and it could scare parents as well. so i would like to see that banned. and this is coming from someone that protested a lot during covid legally, you know, but the right to protest and free speech is a must. but when it sort of it can put children in danger, which i think we've seen two bomb threats, during this, gaza, protests , on schools now, this protests, on schools now, this is extreme , and i believe that is extreme, and i believe that the police are scared to tackle islamic extremism, and that needs to be said again with the chanting. i think the police are scared to police the letter of the law because they think there's going to be some sort of violent, response to that. now that shouldn't be the case. the police should do their job no police should do theirjob no matter what they can't be two tier policing in country. tier policing in this country. this is the wrong way round, because you're supposed to be the one that says we shouldn't be this, and you're be doing this, and you're the one yeah, just

one who's. yeah, look, i just i would be horrified if there was a mass protest outside my kids school , because i know how much school, because i know how much that would my little girl . that would scare my little girl. so i don't think it's right. and the have become very the protests have become very toxic over the last 4 or 5 years, protests are different now to what they used to be. they've evolved, and people are getting away with a lot more than used to get with. than they used to get away with. that's i mean, in >> that's true. i mean, in fairness palestinian fairness to the palestinian protest none them have protest, none of them have turned riots. know turned into riots. i know a protest that have actually. >> nigel, i think you've got that slightly wrong. >> fireworks at >> we've had fireworks fired at police. yes, it wasn't a >> well, yes, but it wasn't a riot. mean, really, i mean, riot. i mean, really, i mean, the fireworks were obviously illegal and the police should have like have acted on something like that, that of the things that, that some of the things that, that some of the things that said they should that were being said they should have acted too. have acted on that too. >> well, think i think >> well, i think well, i think it's reasonable to it's perfectly reasonable to keep them away from schools. i don't problem with that. don't see the problem with that. i that be the i would expect that to be the case. away from people's case. and away from people's houses, all that case. and away from people's hous of all that case. and away from people's hous of thing, all that case. and away from people's hous of thing, say all that case. and away from people's hous of thing, say what l that case. and away from people's hous of thing, say what youat kind of thing, say what you like, outside my house, kind of thing, say what you like, if outside my house, kind of thing, say what you like, if you outside my house, kind of thing, say what you like, if you justide my house, kind of thing, say what you like, if you just tuned' house, kind of thing, say what you like, if you just tuned in,»use, right? if you just tuned in, what do think? gb views out what do you think? gb views out gb i'll read of gb news. com i'll read some of those news. those emails. this is gb news. it's to it's just coming up to 32 minutes 3:00. i'm minutes after 3:00. i'm nana akua to come. we'll be

akua, still to come. we'll be discussing jihadi brides, but first, latest first, let's get your latest news . news headlines. >> nana. thanks very much. good afternoon. from the newsroom. it's just after 3:30. >> our top story this hour. russia's black sea fleet is now functionally inactive , according functionally inactive, according to the defence secretary here in the uk. that's after a massive ukrainian missile strike on sevastopol. for those watching on tv, this was the moment two russian navy vessels were targeted and then struck . well, targeted and then struck. well, security sources have told gb news that uk supplied storm shadow missiles were used in that strike. a major military communications centre has also been damaged, and it marks the largest attack on the russian controlled port in the war so far , as tensions in the region far, as tensions in the region continue to escalate . meanwhile,

continue to escalate. meanwhile, four suspects have been taken to russia's investigative committee headquarters following friday's terror attack . the islamic state terror attack. the islamic state group has claimed responsibility for the shooting, which killed more than 130 people. the us have backed that claim , but have backed that claim, but russia is continuing to suggest that ukraine was involved . that ukraine was involved. allegations, though, that kyiv has denied the prince and princess of wales have said they are enormously touched by messages of support from the pubuc messages of support from the public following catherine's cancer diagnosis. she revealed on friday that she started treatment and in a statement from kensington palace, they said the couple are grateful the pubuc said the couple are grateful the public understand their request for privacy and the chancellor has doubled down on his claim that £100,000 a year is not a huge salary. jeremy hunt says it doesn't go as far as you would think for people in his surrey constituency, because of rising house prices and the cost of living. he also said he does expect the general election will

take place in october. the those are the headlines. plenty more to come with nana throughout the afternoon in the meantime, you can gb news alerts. can sign up to gb news alerts. just the code your just scan the code on your screen or to screen or go to gbnews.com/alerts . gbnews.com/alerts. >> thank you. sam. coming up, my monologue on sir keir starmer. but next, do isis brides have any right to return to the united kingdom

? good 7 good afternoon. if you just tuned in. where have you been? it's all right. you've just missed 38 minutes. it's fine. this news. we're live on this is gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm is the clash i'm nana akua. it is the clash now. jihadi bride shamima begum is just one of a total of 19 british women being held at a

syrian detention camp. now the commander of the al—roj camp has said that there are 19 british women and 35 children living there , and one of the women has there, and one of the women has begged to be allowed to return to the uk . countries like canada to the uk. countries like canada and germany have already allowed jihadi return home. so jihadi brides to return home. so what do you think? we what do you think? should we should allowed to return should they be allowed to return to uk? well, let's welcome to the uk? well, let's welcome again clashes . gb news is again to my clashes. gb news is senior political commentator nigel also nigel nelson and also businessman and activist adam brooks. adam, what should we do with these people? >> no, i believe that they made their bed and they must lie in it. i would like them to rot forever in these detention camps. i'm not being harsh. they went and cosied up to the enemy . went and cosied up to the enemy. an enemy that wants to end our way of life , they're not the way of life, they're not the innocents that they're trying to put out there. there's a lot of intelligence that say, shamima begum would walk around your camps with a machine gun that would witness and encourage beheadings , i believe when

beheadings, i believe when someone has seen and done things that bad, there's no coming back from that. >> of course , all of that. we >> of course, all of that. we don't have actual evidence or. no, no, but are there are, no, no, but there are there are, there are many journalists and there are many journalists and there are many people within the intelligence community that basically there is a lot basically say there is a lot more to shamima begum than what we know. >> i believe she's a danger. now when i go off on one on twitter or x about this , i'm called or x about this, i'm called a racist. but i've said exactly the same thing about jihadi jack. he's a white man, i don't care, they're a danger. jack. he's a white man, i don't care, they're a danger . we've care, they're a danger. we've got enough bad people in this country, and i'm a father of three kids. i do not want another danger or 19 dangerous people coming back at the end of the day, we've got to stay strong. but i fear under a labour government that she will come back . and i would put money come back. and i would put money on that, that in the next five years under a labour government, she will be allowed to come back with blessing of sir keir with the blessing of sir keir starmer, nigel nelson, they are a danger. >> i think that's absolutely

right . but they're more right. but they're more dangerous where they are than if they back here. why? they were back here. why? because at least back here we they were back here. why? bec.keepat least back here we they were back here. why? bec.keep an east back here we they were back here. why? bec.keep an eye back here we they were back here. why? bec.keep an eye on ck here we they were back here. why? bec.keep an eye on them'e we they were back here. why? bec.keep an eye on them , we they were back here. why? bec.keep an eye on them , but we can keep an eye on them, but we can, can we can prosecute can, we can we can prosecute them we can. if we can find them if we can. if we can find evidence of crimes. this is what america has been doing. and both under trump and under biden , under trump and under biden, they got their various people back. half them went on trial back. half of them went on trial and were prosecuted for terrorism offences , some terrorism offences, some weren't, but at least they were back in the country. the argument all the way through is then we can actually see what they're doing. you leave them in these kurdish , refugee. well, these kurdish, refugee. well, not refugee. their detention camps in, in northern syria. and who knows what happens. it's a radicalisation centre. if they weren't radicalised before, they sure as hell will be now. well, they were radicalised because they were radicalised because they left country. they actually left this country. they much worse they were. but how much worse would it be? would it be if they're left there? okay and if, if they start at start. if then they start at start. finding a way back into the country illegally , then they

country illegally, then they could be a real danger. >> nigel, i have a question for you . you think she should come you. you think she should come back? what your what back? yes. what would your what would what would you say around your your coffee table in the morning? you found that morning? have you found out that shamima be shamima begum was going to be housed you ? would housed next door to you? would you or not happy? you be happy or not happy? actually, i wouldn't be unhappy because i would know she is because i would know that she is being monitored by the security services. >> if she came back and didn't get a jail, she may well get a jail. if she came back here, i would know certainly i would know certainly that i probably safest probably have the safest neighbourhood in the area. >> believe lived >> i don't believe i've lived a spooks round it. >> i don't that you >> i don't believe that you would not like. wouldn't like? >> be truthful. you would not be happy. would happy. you would not. >> i would to >> i would love to talk to shamima begum. >> i would love to talk to shéhima begum. >> i would love to talk to shel don't3egum. >> i would love to talk to shel don't wantn. >> i would love to talk to shei don't want to talk to you, nigel. >> well, she may not want to talk i'll just say talk to me, but i'll just say i'd to love talk to her. >> can we remember >> nana can we just remember and tell the viewers what she said? she killing women tell the viewers what she said? she uk killing women tell the viewers what she said? she uk children ling women tell the viewers what she said? she uk children ling fairwomen and uk children is a fair retaliation. she is a monster. >> i'm not defending shamima begum at all. >> you said you wouldn't mind her living next door. i wouldn't mind she's said. mind what she's just said. >> her living

>> i would not mind her living next think that next door because i think that she would be monitored and as a result of that, would be result of that, she would be safe. , i would like to safe. and yes, i would like to talk to about everything talk to her about everything that's would move as that's happened. i would move as a journalist. that's happened. i would move as a chell,ist. that's happened. i would move as a chell, andrew. andrew, >> well, andrew. andrew, what's his he spoke. andrew drury his name? he spoke. andrew drury went to speak to and he said went to speak to her and he said that was a nasty piece of that she was a nasty piece of work at the beginning. almost work at the beginning. he almost fell and then he. fell for it all. and then he. and nice guy. he's and he's a very nice guy. he's a very. >> g i watch what he >> no, i watch i watch what he said. yes. >> i watched interview with >> i watched the interview with him actually went see him when he actually went to see her, he gave us all the her, and he gave us all the footage. this is somebody footage. and this is somebody who's has said who's actually met her, has said that somebody that she is somebody who shouldn't even that she is somebody who sho home even that she is somebody who sho home secretary's even that she is somebody who sho home secretary's subsequent the home secretary's subsequent home and it's home secretary's, and it's certainly because certainly not racist because it was what's certainly not racist because it wasother what's certainly not racist because it wasother sajid what's certainly not racist because it was other sajid javid,rhat's the other guy, sajid javid, you then had, there's been so many and we've acted the same with jihadi jack , who was a white jihadi jack, who was a white sajid javid. who he sajid javid. who else was? he was after put me on the spot. i don't know who was. was it, was it, suella braverman. well, no, i was. i think it was. >> was sajid javid took >> it was sajid javid who took her passport away and she her passport away and but she was it started with was initially it started with priti patel. >> yeah. that's right. in 2018 i think it was or 19. yeah. >> well sajid would have come

before >> well sajid would have come bef�*then it was sajid javid. then >> then it was sajid javid. then it was priti patel and then it was suella braverman. see now they're all kind of asian descent. so it's certainly not racism is it. >> no, don't it's racist >> no, i don't think it's racist at the issue is actually at all. the issue is actually international because what international law because what happened the only happened there was, the only citizenship she can use is british citizenship. now she has no citizenship . so what? well, no citizenship. so what? well, the. so what is you that you cannot make somebody stateless? why not? >> we have because under international law, you cannot make someone stateless. >> she does have. she also has the bangladeshi citizenship. >> no. she doesn't. well she has she she has a right to bangladeshi citizenship that she's never applied for. well, it doesn't matter. which she's never applied for. well, it do have matter. which she's never applied for. well, it do have refused which she's never applied for. well, it do have refused to which she's never applied for. well, it do have refused to giveich she's never applied for. well, it do have refused to give her. they have refused to give her. so at the moment she has got absolutely nowhere to go apart from shamima. >> poor shamima. >> poor shamima. >> i'm not defending her. >> well, i'm not defending her. what i'm saying is that just what the international what is the international community do us? community going to do to us? >> if i was prime >> i mean, if i was prime minister, say you're minister, i'd say what you're going do. not coming going to do. she's not coming back. are back. yeah. so what, are you going us on knuckles going to rap us on the knuckles again? they're doing

>> well, they're not doing anything all. that's what anything at all. that's what we've it is against we've done. but it is against international law to make someone at international law to make son moment at international law to make son moment now at international law to make sonmoment now at the the moment she's now become the kurds in syria, where if kurds problem in syria, where if she's a british and she's a british citizen and should be our problem here, i think they actually want to punish properly, i punish her properly, though i don't probably want don't think they probably want herand i hope hope she is >> and i hope she i hope she is punished we have here. and punished that we have here. and two, anything, punished that we have here. and two, probably anything, punished that we have here. and two, probably saything, punished that we have here. and two, probably saythin haven't they'll probably say we haven't got she may they'll probably say we haven't got be she may they'll probably say we haven't got be released. she may well be released. >> well, there is a question of the absolutely. the evidence. yes absolutely. >> this >> but how do you get this evidence? this is the problem. this think she wants to this is why i think she wants to come because how you come here. because how do you get evidence? almost get that evidence? it's almost impossible. she has said some awful suggest that awful things which suggest that she is guilty of some crime. we don't don't have the don't know. we don't have the evidence. how are we going to get what's going evidence. how are we going to get is what's going evidence. how are we going to get is if what's going evidence. how are we going to get is if shthat's going evidence. how are we going to get is if she comesgoing evidence. how are we going to get is if she comes here, to happen is if she comes here, she'll probably end up being free. >> e even if she is free, >> and even if she is free, she would be monitored and the bbc would be monitored and the bbc would give her own would probably give her her own reality radio yeah. >> knowing radio show. yeah. knowing keep knowing this, this country, keep her out there. she's a danger, in my view. >> well, you think? gb >> well, what do you think? gb views news. com and what views gb news. com and what about there's about the other 19? there's others it's just others as well. it's not just shamima begum, but just shamima begum, but she's just a tip horrible iceberg, i tip of a horrible iceberg, i think. coming up,

think. but coming up, my monologue sir keir starmer monologue on sir keir starmer next though, as london watch parties their screenings parties cancel their screenings over eurovision in solidarity with palestine . should israel be with palestine. should israel be banned from eurovision

? good 7 good afternoon. as fast approaching, 50 minutes after 3:00, this is the clash . i'm 3:00, this is the clash. i'm nana akua. you're watching and listening to gb news now, london's biggest screening party for the eurovision song contest has been cancelled in protest at israel's inclusion in the competition. now, in a move that in a move that was condemned by jewish representatives, the rio cinema in east london said that this year's event would not take place, but the cinema would organise fund raising for the palestinian aid effort. and all of this comes after the country's entry had to change lyrics of the song, as it wasn't allowed to make reference to the

victims of the october 7th terror attack . so what do you terror attack. so what do you think? should israel be banned from eurovision ? from eurovision? >> nigel nelson no, i don't think. i don't think israel should banned. i'm actually should be banned. i'm actually surprised were in surprised that they were in eurovision in the first place. in same way, i'm a bit in the same way, i'm a bit surprised australia being surprised about australia being it relates to it and but it relates to membership the european membership of the european broadcasting union. so to take politics out of eurovision as much as possible, i think is the right thing to do. >> not possible, is it >> it's not possible, is it though? >> well, belarus was >> well, i mean, belarus was expelled the, the expelled from the, from the broadcasting union back in 2021, but that's because they were intimidating and harassing their own staff. so it was an issue about , about free speech. about, about free speech. basically their russia was expelled too. there was a lot more messy . expelled too. there was a lot more messy. it was a bit difficult. but of course, they would have been up against ukraine, whereas israel wouldn't be up against palestine . but be up against palestine. but broadly, keep politics out, i think that that no reason to not let israel compete where their policy is always in it, though,

you're saying keep politics out of the most political show, probably in the world that, you know, it's ridiculous. >> i detest the eurovision song contest so much so i love it. i don't even like talking about it because i think the music is terrible. doesn't matter terrible. it doesn't matter what country it is. it's you country it is. it's just, you know, it's terrible. suspectable look, i didn't i didn't want russia to be kicked out of there. i don't think that a song contest should be political. and the arbiter of who is right and who is wrong around the world. i think that is ridiculous , i think that is ridiculous, i think that is ridiculous, i think we need to realise and remember what happened on october 7th as well. thousands of innocent jews, women, children were kidnapped , children were kidnapped, including brits. people were raped. people were murdered. now, i don't particularly agree with what israel has done since. and children have died in gaza. it upsets me both things really upset me. so i'm sort of in the middle here. >> but hamas should release the hostages. if they genuinely

wanted this thing, wanted to stop this thing, it could if they stopped firing could do if they stopped firing the i mean, the the rockets as well. i mean, the only that israel doesn't only reason that israel doesn't look just got to keep look like i've just got to keep reminding only reminding people that the only reason doesn't reason that israel doesn't look like is because they like gaza is because they invested dome instead invested in an iron dome instead of these rockets are of tunnels. so these rockets are firing over israel, firing constantly over israel, and they were before october the 7th. i know this if they were i've been speaking. they were all the time about and this all the time about it. and this is first started talking is how i first started talking to i feel just to him. and i feel people just completely forget that. yeah, to him. and i feel people just comjthat ly forget that. yeah, to him. and i feel people just comjthat is forget that. yeah, to him. and i feel people just comjthat is whatt that. yeah, to him. and i feel people just comjthat is what thist. yeah, to him. and i feel people just comjthat is what thist. �*a ah, that that is what this is a proportional it's proportionality here. but but if they had if gaza an iron they had if gaza had an iron dome , then gaza citizens dome, then gaza citizens probably wouldn't been probably wouldn't have been bombed, wouldn't have felt the effects of bombing either. so it's not proportionality. they're firing thousands of rockets. hamas are firing thousands. >> yes they are. but i mean, the question really about israel's retaliation is, is whether that is proportionate to what happened on october the 7th. it's not minimising october the 7th. but, but but if you're talking about more than 30,000 people well , people being killed, well, they're killed because they have do protection from do not have any protection from the would the same >> it would be exactly the same on israel's if they didn't

on israel's side if they didn't have an iron dome. so proportionately it the same proportionately it is the same thing. only reason israel is thing. the only reason israel is much more than than much more powerful than than hamas. .and much more powerful than than hamas. . and they will root it >> yeah. and they will root it out. and so they should they should out. and so they should they sho let's out. and so they should they sholet's remember that has >> let's remember that hamas has put bases, all of its put all of its bases, all of its infrastructure , under hospitals, infrastructure, under hospitals, under apartments , under under under apartments, under civilians that they use, you know, they use a shields, but what about the attack on rafah that's coming up that you're talking about 1.5 million people. >> you ask very briefly, because the hamas have gone into rafah, they're hiding. but the israelis told the civilian population to move to rafah because it was safe. >> 1.5 million people are now >>1.5 million people are now there living in tents . right there living in tents. right now, israel is threatening an invasion of rafah, which will kill an awful lot more people there because hamas went into rafah knowing it was safe. >> that's what they keep doing. so a on a hiding to so israel, on a on a hiding to nothing. you have people nothing. you cannot have people on who behave in on your border who behave in that manner. people agreed. >> we with that. yes >> we agree with that. yes >> we agree with that. yes >> that's right. firing rockets. if they stopped firing the

if they just stopped firing the rockets and gave back what is left of the hostages, well, the ideal a ceasefire ideal would be a ceasefire on both sides. ideal would be a ceasefire on bot absolutely. which we >> absolutely. which we all agree on. presumably >> unfortunately, hamas keeps turning down ceasefires. well, no, turned it down, too. >> so because they're both the hostages back, they've said, give hostages. give us the hostages. >> there's lot of >> well, there's a lot of complications about about that. but at the moment, if we agree there should be a ceasefire that should be for both sides . should be for both sides. >> both sides, it it shouldn't be involved. the eurovision song contest should not be involved in itself. >> no, we with in itself. >> no, we in itself. » wae >> no, we agree with that bet. >> no, we agree with that bet. >> well, there you go. well, what think? views what do you think? gb views gb news. get read some news. com i'll get to read some of thoughts. gb news. or of your thoughts. gb news. or tweet as well. this is gb tweet me as well. this is gb news still to come. how many times gb news? i can times can i say gb news? i can say i just saying it. well, say i just keep saying it. well, listen. come my listen. still to come my monologue keir starmer, listen. still to come my mono be ue keir starmer, listen. still to come my mono be talking keir starmer, listen. still to come my monobe talking about starmer, listen. still to come my monobe talking about robbing', we'll be talking about robbing peter to pay paul with his plans for private and public schools. but first, let's get an update with weather. go with your weather. don't go anywhere . anywhere. >> a brighter outlook with boxt

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miss that one. and then why was my producer alex fined £150? was it a spitting gum bee? skipping a queue or c picking his nose? stay tuned to find out . but stay tuned to find out. but before we get started, let's get your latest news headlines. >> nana, thank you very much. >> nana, thank you very much. >> good afternoon. from the gb newsroom. >> it's just gone 4:00 and we start with some breaking news coming to us out of london this afternoon, where hundreds of pro—palestine and environmental protesters currently protesters are currently demonstrating at the british museum in bloomsbury in the caphal museum in bloomsbury in the capital. if you're watching on tv, you can see here many activists in there, possibly hundreds there, who are waving banners, palestinian flags and can be heard shouting hands off the middle east! the group calling itself the energy embargo for palestine, say that they will keep targeting that historic building until it ends its partnership with bp. and it

comes after the british museum confirmed it was extending its partnership with bp for another decade, in a deal worth some £50 million as well. >> in other news today, russia's black sea fleet is now functionally inactive, according to the defence secretary here in the uk. >> that's after a massive ukrainian missile strike on sevastopol. for those watching on television, this was the moment that two russian navy vessels will were targeted and struck . struck. >> security sources have told gb news that uk supplied storm shadow missiles were used in that strike, and a major military communications centre has also been damaged in the attack. >> it marks the largest military operation on the russian controlled port in the war, so far as tensions in the region continue to escalate . meanwhile, continue to escalate. meanwhile, islamic state has released new

footage which appears to back up the terror group's claim that it was behind friday's attack in moscow. we have chosen not to show that footage, but this video for those watching on television shows four suspects being taken into custody for interrogation in moscow, where russia is claiming that they have detained those attempting to escape across the border into ukraine. the authorities there now say the number of people killed in the attack on friday has risen to 137. meanwhile, the white house says islamic state's claims of responsibility for the attack is credible to royal news and the prince and princess of wales have said they are enormously touched by the kind messages of support . catherine messages of support. catherine announced her cancer diagnosis on friday and revealed she has started preventative chemotherapy . in a statement chemotherapy. in a statement from kensington palace last night, they said the couple are grateful for public's understanding of their request for privacy. >> the chancellor has defended

the government's record on affordable housing after making claims that £100,000 a year is, he said, not a huge salary. >> jeremy hunt has said that it doesn't go far as far as you would think for people in his surrey constituency amid higher house prices and the rising cost of living, comes as the average home now costs around eight times the average income. it was half that in the 1990s, the chancellor told camilla tominey this morning that lower taxes, he says, will make a difference to average house prices in that part of the world. >> £670,000. if you've got a mortgage, if you're paying childcare, what looks like a very high salary doesn't go as far as you might think it would. if you look at the average salary in this country , £35,000, salary in this country, £35,000, they have been feeling the pinch. and those people will see their tax bills go down by £900 this year. if you look at people on an even lower salary, the

lowest legally payable salary, the national living wage, because i've increased that to £11.44, they will see if they're working full time. their income go working full time. their income 9° up working full time. their income 90 ”p by working full time. their income go up by £1,800. >> well, in response to those comments, labour party chair anneliese dodds has said that tax rises are to blame and she promised changes under a labour government . government. >> but there's a big difference, camilla, between what labour is setting out, especially on taxation and what we're seeing under the conservatives. we've seen taxes going up 25 times under the conservatives our instinct is always to make sure that working people are not paying that working people are not paying the price for government mistakes. that's what's happened , i'm afraid, under the conservatives. so of course, our approach would always be to try and reduce that impact on working people. we've seen the opposite, i'm afraid. under recent conservative governments, chilling levels of harassment are posing a serious threat to social cohesion . social cohesion. >> that's according to an

independent government adviser, a review led by dame saira khan will be published tomorrow, showing that more than 75% of the public feel that they can't speak their mind. it suggests that many people feel society has become more divisive, and cites the case of a teacher who went into hiding after showing a caricature of the prophet muhammad during a class. dame sarah says journalists, teachers and those working in the arts are subjected to severe levels of abuse, often resulting in self—censorship. it's understood the report will recommend a series of measures, including a ban on protests within 150m of schools and finally, joni mitchell has returned to spotify. the music streaming service, more than two years after it's after boycotting it over comments by the controversial podcaster joe rogan. controversial podcaster joe rogan . the legendary folk singer rogan. the legendary folk singer announced that she was pulling her catalogue from the site in 2022, joining fellow musician neil young. well, that was in protest against spotify's multiyear deal with rogan, who's

accused of spreading misinformation about covid vaccines. both artists have called on the streamer to address the spread of false information on the site . those information on the site. those are the headlines. i'll be back in the next half hour. until then, you can sign up to gb news alerts. just scan the code on your screen or go to gb news common alerts. now though, it's back . nana. back to. nana. >> good afternoon. it's just coming up to seven minutes after 4:00. this is gb news on tv, onune 4:00. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm at nana akua . i'd like to call at nana akua. i'd like to call this one robbing peter to pay paul. this one robbing peter to pay paul . the labour party have paul. the labour party have embarked on a journey that i can only describe as politics of envy. i think it's time we scrutinise their policies more closely and establish in our minds what a labour government might mean to the education system . so keir starmer and his system. so keir starmer and his party have for far too long capitalised on the abject

failure of the conservatives and haven't really had to explain themselves . but haven't really had to explain themselves. but as part of their manifesto, labour intend to charge vat at 20% on private schools because i suspect they think that people who send their kids there will stump up the cash no matter what, and that these people have money. they will then use this money to labour fund state schools. basically, they will rob peter to pay paul. but what i believe they failed to realise, i'm not sure whether they've factored this in, is that many people who send their kids to private schools great sacrifice schools do so at great sacrifice and are in fact paying twice into the education system . i into the education system. i spent my first year of secondary education in a state school. i'll be honest, when i started i was at the top of the class , but was at the top of the class, but by the end of the year i was near the bottom. but then my dad got promoted to a post on wall street in states . my parents street in the states. my parents sent me to a private boarding school run by nuns, school in the uk run by nuns, and family moved to america. and my family moved to america. thank god the opportunity i was

given to go private at boarding school . i grew in confidence and school. i grew in confidence and i'm here because of it. my i'm here now because of it. my father's work, natwest and alone. took paid for alone. my dad took out paid for my private education. we were nowhere near as rich as some of the kids there, but there are also many children. i would say at least half whose parents were busting gut to send them busting a gut to send them there. and on top of that, many of private schools are for of these private schools are for those with special educational needs. in the case of my old needs. and in the case of my old school, they did a lot and still do a lot in the community. my old school has a bus old school actually has a bus that picks up the elderly and bnngs that picks up the elderly and brings them to the school for lunch. and i know this because they up my and she's they pick up my mum and she's always telling oh, was always telling me, oh, it was lovely. such a lovely lovely. i had such a lovely lunch. lovely . saw all lunch. it was lovely. i saw all the people. make them the old people. i make them watch programme watch your programme even if they but let's be they fall asleep. but let's be honest, that would be probably one of the first things that these private schools will scrap if to more cash if they need to find more cash to them . so when i meet to fund them. so when i meet people my ex state school, people from my ex state school, in the main, i've achieved much higher grades and done

considerably better than all of them, as have my friends from my boarding school. it is clear that the state education system is failing, but rather than robbing peter to pay paul, surely it would be better for the party to improve the state system without destroying the private . so before we get private sector. so before we get stuck into the debates, here's what else is coming up today for the great british debate. this houn the great british debate. this hour, i'm asking is earning £100,000 a year enough? that's after chancellor jeremy hunt said that it's not a huge salary. what do you think, then? at 450, it's worldview. we'll cross live to los angeles with paul duddridge, the host of the politics podcast , and get politics people podcast, and get the latest on the us. and then we'll to israel and we'll pop over to israel and have a word with the famous mystifier geller. then at mystifier uri geller. then at five, it's this week's outside now guest recounts her now my guest recounts her harrowing story of being people trafficked her inspiration trafficked and her inspiration journey to freedom. do not go anywhere for that. she'll be

live in the studio at 5:00. she's written a book about her journey that's coming up in the next hour. tell me what you think on everything we're discussing. email gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet me at . gb news. all right, let's get started. let's welcome again to my panel, broadcaster and journalist danny kelly, and also author and broadcaster christine hamilton. right i shall start with you, christine hamilton. yes christine hamilton, what do you think about this? >> well, i mean, it's been very easy for keir starmer up till now, hasn't it? he just cruises along . along. >> didn't along. » awn-t >> he didn't have to come out with particular policies. he with any particular policies. he could of could just be in favour of motherhood apple and motherhood and apple pie. and that motherhood and apple pie. and tha now the election is drawing >> now the election is drawing closer and people are beginning to party. to focus on the labour party. >> got start coming up >> he's got to start coming up with policies. with some policies. >> madness for >> i think this is madness for him i can't think it's him because i can't think it's going attract any votes at all. >> i'm going to find him. >> i'm going to find him. >> well maybe some no won't, >> well maybe some no it won't, but politics of envy. but it is the politics of envy. i mean, what we should trying

i mean, what we should be trying to acknowledged that to do. it is acknowledged that apart few stand out apart from a few stand out examples calls, the private sector delivers a better education the state sector. education than the state sector. i'm not demonising all state schools. of course not. there are some incredible examples and there appalling private there are some appalling private schools general rule, schools. but as a general rule, what should trying to do schools. but as a general rule, nget should trying to do schools. but as a general rule, nget the hould trying to do schools. but as a general rule, nget the state trying to do schools. but as a general rule, nget the state sectoring to do schools. but as a general rule, nget the state sector up.to do schools. but as a general rule, nget the state sector up. what is get the state sector up. what will happen is that there will be parents who simply can't afford the extra 20, and they will have to take their kids out of school and then they will suddenly be landed the suddenly be landed into the state sector, which won't be able to cope with the extra numbers. >> i don't >> i just don't get it. >> i just don't get it. >> i just don't get it. >> i don't it. i don't >> i don't get it. i don't understand why he's doing it. >> i don't get it. i don't unchetand why he's doing it. >> i don't get it. i don't unc he almost|y he's doing it. >> i don't get it. i don't unc he almost feelss doing it. >> i don't get it. i don't unc he almost feels like ng it. >> i don't get it. i don't unc he almost feels like he's. >> he almost feels like he's delusional. you think? >> politics of envy. think? >> this ics of envy. think? >> this is; of envy. think? >> this is socialism for you, isn't it? so, course it is. isn't it? so, of course it is. it's socialism . it's socialism. it's socialism. it's socialism. so perception is, that so the perception is, is that you've money. they want you've got money. so they want more of your money in order to help people's out . help other people's kids out. what guy isn't what this guy just isn't connecting the amount of connecting with is the amount of sacrifice that normal mums and dads have make in order to dads have to make in order to take, in order to allow their children to go to private schools , because they're

schools, because they're concerned the most concerned about the most precious lives. precious thing in their lives. their . and they are, precious thing in their lives. theexample, . and they are, precious thing in their lives. theexample, not and they are, precious thing in their lives. theexample, not changing are, precious thing in their lives. theexample, not changing their for example, not changing their car. going on a car. they're not going on a summer holiday. they're not doing not doing summer holiday. they're not doingthey're not doing summer holiday. they're not doingthey're not not doing summer holiday. they're not doingthey're not having oing summer holiday. they're not doingthey're not having the| extension. >> two jobs, three jobs, of course they are. >> two jobs, three jobs, of couand hey are. >> two jobs, three jobs, of couand that'se. >> two jobs, three jobs, of couand that's just not getting >> and that's just not getting into would into his brain. and i would suggest that that's over 50% of parents. yeah. not everybody is on £100,000. and we're going to be talking about that later. and it's a, it's a it's a great sort of segue to next feature of segue to the next feature where 100 grand's where there are 100 grand's a lot dough, because if you lot of dough, because if you agree, a lot of agree, 100 grand's a lot of dough, all of sudden, dough, then all of a sudden, if you've 3 kids you've got 2 or 3 kids at private it's not enough dough. >> that's thing. and >> well, that's the thing. and jeremy the one that's jeremy hunt is the one that's saying isn't enough. but jeremy hunt is the one that's sayingyou sn't enough. but jeremy hunt is the one that's sayingyou know nough. but jeremy hunt is the one that's sayingyou know ,ough. but jeremy hunt is the one that's sayingyou know ,the1. but jeremy hunt is the one that's sayingyou know , the bottom line then, you know, the bottom line is, don't. the is, at least i don't. the conservatives be conservatives wouldn't be considering this particular policy. know they policy. of course they know they wouldn't . this wouldn't do this. this is absurd. is where have absurd. so this is where we have absurd. so this is where we have a line between the two a dividing line between the two of them. and i think he has of them. and i think what he has done, starmer has done, what keir starmer has effectively is actually effectively done, is actually disappoint a lot of people who would have considered voting for him, because those middle class voters those 100 voters who are on those 100 grand salaries are going to be

looking thinking, looking at this and thinking, well, you're push up well, if you're going to push up our then we don't our school fees, then we don't want know what? >> sorry. forgive me. just just what? >> sorpoint.]ive me. just just what? >> sor point. what e. just just what? >> sor point. what this st just a final point. what this illustrates me is the illustrates to me is the confidence that he's confidence he has that he's going next general going to win the next general election can he election because he can now he can start paying off a few, can now start paying off a few, maybe conservative voters or a few voters because he few floating voters because he doesn't need you now. he's going to going be a to it's going to be such a landslide. he can throwing landslide. he can start throwing out unpopular out some unpopular middle to middle people , unpopular policies. >> not be quite the >> it may not be quite the landslide that he thinks. don't forget, there are an awful lot of different features playing in and got few months and we've still got a few months to he would be very silly to go, so he would be very silly if overconfident about if he was overconfident about it. don't know what the it. but i don't know what the percentage is and it's probably not to out. but not possible to find out. but there'll percentage there'll be a large percentage of families who do exactly as you and really give up. my you said and really give up. my parents gave up an enormous amount to send me to a private school, and i rewarded them by being . being expelled. >> and when was 12, could you >> and when i was 12, could you i ? i know? >> then i went to a state school and that did me a lot of good as well. so i was very lucky. i had a education, but a very mixed education, but i know much they and my

know how much they and my brother way through brother went all the way through and well in life, and did extremely well in life, and did extremely well in life, and up a great deal. and they gave up a great deal. and lot parents and there are a lot of parents who you the who do that. as you said, the education children is education of their children is the most important thing. >> this >> but the way that this question framed, it's like, question was framed, it's like, i another 20% off you so i want another 20% off you so that 20% going to go and help i want another 20% off you so that 2people'sing to go and help i want another 20% off you so that 2people's kidso go and help i want another 20% off you so that 2people's kids out. and help i want another 20% off you so that 2people's kids out. why help i want another 20% off you so that 2people's kids out. why islp other people's kids out. why is they're being taxed to the hilt? if you're earning 100 grand, that's 67 k 33 k goes the that's net 67 k 33 k goes the government. and now they want to wallop another 20% on you five, six, seven grand return. >> fees i don't >> i think school fees i don't think he understands. i don't get he thinks he's doing get what he thinks he's doing with this but it doesn't with this one. but it doesn't make to take from more make sense to take from more money from hard working parents to a failing education to subsidise a failing education system. all that's going to happen here is that these people are going to leave the private sector, then you're going to sector, and then you're going to have to finance them the have to finance them in the state overwhelmingly, state system overwhelmingly, and it's being it's going to end up being something quite something that will be quite it'll it will be quite it'll be quite. it will be quite sort of emotionally challenging for children who are moved for the children who are moved from their school. must be horrible state school, must horrible to a state school, must be horrible. horrible to a state school, must be it'sible. horrible to a state school, must be it's anz. horrible to a state school, must be it's an ideological thing,

>> it's an ideological thing, isn't it's socialism isn't it? i mean, it's socialism , as you course it is. , as you say. of course it is. wants do i want the wants to do i want who's the shadow education secretary do we know. no idea. shadow education secretary do we know. ifindlea. shadow education secretary do we know. ifind out for you. we'll >> i'll find out for you. we'll find out then. but i mean, you know, knows what will know, well, who knows what will happen? who knows? i wonder if the are to the labour party are going to win election a win that election with a landslide. do think? landslide. what do you think? oh, quick one for oh, and danny, a quick one for you. my mum. my mum you. actually, my mum. my mum said danny. he looks. said danny, danny. he looks. tell him for me. he looks like he's weight. he's lost weight. >> well thank you, mrs. >> danny well thank you, mrs. akua. camera? dina? akua. where's the camera? dina? what's her name? georgina. georgina, thank you so much. and it's observant of you. it's very observant of you. you've good eyesight. i've you've got good eyesight. i've lost and half. thank lost a stone and a half. thank you. got you. georgie, you've got a beautiful by way. you. georgie, you've got a beathank by way. you. georgie, you've got a beathank you by way. you. georgie, you've got a beathank you very by way. you. georgie, you've got a beathank you very much way. you. georgie, you've got a beathank you very much indeed. >> thank you very much indeed. oh, he's creepy. oh, god, he's a creepy. >> doesn't say that. >> doesn't normally say that. yes. you go. there you go. yes. there you go. there you go. mum, there's danny, danny and christine. say hi to christine. christine, say hi to her gina. oh, sorry. >> wrong camera . hi, gina. >> wrong camera. hi, gina. >> wrong camera. hi, gina. >> it's like the kitchens. hi, gina. thank you much . thank gina. thank you very much. thank you. christine, right, right. if you've in. welcome. you've just tuned in. welcome. it's up to 17 it's just coming up to 17 minutes after this gb minutes after 4:00. this is gb news coming up. worldview. we'll cross live to los angeles and

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send their children to private schools in quite schools are rich. in fact, quite a lot state school teachers a lot of state school teachers send to private send their children to private schools. exactly. keir starmer hasn't clue, has he? ian hasn't got a clue, has he? ian says if labour adds that to private school fees and as a result, many kids have returned to public school, will the to public school, where will the spaces cash be to pay spaces and the cash be to pay for come from higher for them come from higher council probably , you council tax and probably, you know, they're that one, know, they're planning that one, john labour mps john says. how many labour mps send their kids private send their kids to private schools? yes. no one seems to remember that. diane abbott i think we all remember that one. she to defend herself for she had to defend herself for sending private sending her kids to private school. exactly. was school. yes, exactly. i was trying criticise them trying to sort of criticise them at keep your at the same time. keep your thoughts gb thoughts coming gb views at gb news. it's time for news. com but now it's time for the great british debate this houn the great british debate this hour. i'm asking is earning hour. and i'm asking is earning £100,000 hunt has £100,000 enough? jeremy hunt has raised a few eyebrows by saying that earning 100 k a year is not a not huge in his surrey constituency , he answering constituency, he answering questions from his constituency about eligibility for government childcare offers. the chancellor said that £100,000 is not a lot of money in his area. if you have a mortgage to pay. while

some people have sought to defend mr hunt by saying his comments need to be considered in their context , both labour in their context, both labour and the liberal democrats were quick comments quick to describe his comments as touch, especially as as out of touch, especially as the still in the the country is still in the midst of a cost of living crisis. most people are only earning an average of £35,000. so the great debate, so for the great british debate, this , i'm asking, is this out, i'm asking, is £100,000 a year enough ? well, £100,000 a year enough? well, joining me to discuss this gb news senior political commentator nigel nelson, businessman and activist adam brooks, commentator brooks, political commentator and former labour aide stella. i hate it when they do this today. why don't they just write it normally? how is it? how do i say it? chan de cue. i could have said that i didn't need all this stuff. i'm political commentator webb. commentator emma webb. brilliant, going commentator emma webb. br startt, going commentator emma webb. br start with going commentator emma webb. br start with you, going commentator emma webb. br start with you, emmagoing commentator emma webb. br start with you, emma webb . to start with you, emma webb. >> well, i it's difficult because it's almost impossible to defend, him against the accusations that he's out of touch because of course, you know, most people in this country are surviving on much less than that.

>> i think what you can say is that he obviously knows his constituents own issues more than most people do. and if you do have a very large mortgage, with the mortgage rates going up, can see how people who up, you can see how people who are, who, who, who's, means have had a result on their living standard and they therefore end up sort of strapped to a mortgage that they maybe can't pay- mortgage that they maybe can't pay. maybe they're struggling. but these things are all relative. and i think the real issue with what he is that issue with what he said is that that, that, the government's assistance in helping with childcare is paid for at the taxpayers expense, and that is paid for by people who are at the lower end of the income bracket. and so when you look at it , his bracket. and so when you look at it, his comments on a broader scale, when looking at scale, when you're looking at the country and you're the whole country and you're looking average salary , looking at, the average salary, of course it seems extremely out of course it seems extremely out of touch, but these things are always relative. so i think we can accept that some people who do earn a large salary relative to their own outgoings might find themselves in trouble, but i don't think it's right to say

that. therefore they should be entitled to . for other taxpayers entitled to. for other taxpayers paying entitled to. for other taxpayers paying for their child care . paying for their child care. because it's one thing if you end up in trouble and you have to downsize and live in a smaller house, it's another thing. if at bottom thing. if you're at the bottom end of the economic spectrum and if up in trouble , you if you end up in trouble, you end up homeless. >> it's ironic, isn't >> yeah, but it's ironic, isn't it? it he that it? because wasn't it he that put up the interest rates for some mortgages up ? i some mortgages have gone up? i mean, it's own fault, isn't mean, it's his own fault, isn't it? talking about it? if he's talking about his constituents, he's not not being able perhaps he able to afford it. perhaps he should interest should consider the interest rates. let's go to. can't say rates. let's go to. i can't say your again. i'll say your your name again. i'll say your first name. stella. >> stella. first name. stella. >> mylla. first name. stella. >> my first name i can do >> my first name is. i can do that. stella. stella. that. like stella. stella. >> so? >> so? >> so? >> so 100 k. »- >> so 100 k. >> right. let's look at the number. >> so he's talking about he talked a bit about marginal tax rate , which i do agree needs to rate, which i do agree needs to be reformed. rate, which i do agree needs to be personally i don't that >> personally i don't think that is the it is. is fair the way it is. >> it is, is it is made right >> it is, it is it is made right now. but you are earning 100 now. but if you are earning 100 k more, you are already at a k or more, you are already at a top 3% in terms of income in this country. right? we know that last year everyone income

fall except for the top 20. so if you're earning above 100 k you are one of the very select lucky few people in this country who saw their income rise in the last year . who saw their income rise in the last year. now, in the same week that jeremy hunt made this comment, we had the report saying that 25% of children in this country live in absolute poverty. so that's a 30 year low. it's the first time since records began where we're where we're seeing poverty rising again and living standards falling now. it's very nice that jeremy hunt has sympathy for people in his constituency, and also that he announced that he's going to commit to the triple lock. that's very nice to see. it's also very nice to see that the government has a lot of sympathy waspi and sympathy for waspi women, and they at very least, they are, at the very least, considering the that older considering the fact that older people should not become poorer now, very nice to now, i would say very nice to have sympathy for older people and for people who are on the high income bracket. can we

please look children? can please look at the children? can we make sure that young we please make sure that young people poorer people are not becoming poorer as well? can we please, please scrap the two child limit? can we please raise benefits for children who are going hungry ? children who are going hungry? >> okay, what about the 100 grand, though? is that too much or not? the what? >> £100,000. >> sorry, £100,000. >> sorry, £100,000. >> enough or is it too >> is that enough or is it too much ? much? >> i think that is enough to survive. it something survive. but it says something about country that about our country that at 100 k is not enough to thrive. wow. >> adam brooks i find myself agreeing on the left . agreeing with those on the left. >> i think his comments showed how from reality is. how detached from reality is. i'm really not a fan of jeremy hunt for many reasons , but a lot hunt for many reasons, but a lot of policies, you know, during covid and since covid, especially tax, it's the highest tax burden, i think, since world war two, many, many decades , war two, many, many decades, pnces war two, many, many decades, prices of electric and gas have gone through the roof. you know, i know i'm, i'm lucky. i've done well in life. i'm not a multi—millionaire , but i earn multi—millionaire, but i earn

okay money. but i've had to make a lot of changes. i've got three children now to feed and entertain three children. now everything's gone up. my electric and gas has also gone up my home bills, my car insurance, my house insurance. everything has gone up . and we everything has gone up. and we are being taxed into oblivion in this country . now, at the are being taxed into oblivion in this country. now, at the end of the day, someone that earns, say, 100,000, i put it in the tax calculator earlier. they clear about 5500 pounds a month. now suddenly you put in your mortgage, you put in this, you put in that. how much is actually left from someone that has three kids, you know , and has three kids, you know, and it's a hard thing to say because you have got people earn you have got people that earn a lot less 30 something, 20 something. how are these people surviving? and i have a lot of empathy for these people because i know i'm having to change the way i live because of the tax burden , because of inflation. so burden, because of inflation. so my kids are never going to go hungry, but i might have to downsize in the future. i might have to make some big decisions,

but my kids are not going to go hungry . there are families out hungry. there are families out there must be pulling their there that must be pulling their hair , you know? and it's hair out, you know? and it's wrong. meant be wrong. we were meant to be a great country . and i think this great country. and i think this government lot to government really has a lot to answer for , for those that are answer for, for those that are struggling. >> but listen. but listen, a lot of be pulling their of them will be pulling their hair even having hair out even more. having listened because listened to that though, because if mind that it's if we bear in mind that it's only the 2 or 3% of people only the top 2 or 3% of people who earning above £100,000, only the top 2 or 3% of people whfor earning above £100,000, only the top 2 or 3% of people whfor eato ng above £100,000, only the top 2 or 3% of people whfor eato ng ethate £100,000, only the top 2 or 3% of people whfor eato ng ethat ,£100,000, only the top 2 or 3% of people whfor eato ng ethat , ii00,000, only the top 2 or 3% of people whfor eato ng ethat , i think)0, so for him to say that, i think it's a bit it's a bit ridiculous, really. nigel nelson and also because he's the one in charge those interest charge of raising those interest rates isn't he's the one rates, isn't he? he's the one that's charge of talking that's in charge of talking about if he's that about taxes. so if he's that worried about it, perhaps he could up some could have come up with some better policies . jeremy, better policies. jeremy, this was very silly that you was a very silly thing that you said. it was said. nigel nelson. yes, it was a thing, as you said, a very silly thing, as you said, and the average wage is and i know the average wage is 35,000 a full time worker in 35,000 for a full time worker in this country. as stella said, 100,000 is in the top 3. so of course it's a huge kind of kind of salary, even in jeremy hunt's own surrey constituency , the

own surrey constituency, the median wage there is 42,000. so those earning 100,000 in surrey are doing really well . the issue are doing really well. the issue that that jeremy hunt has got to get to grips with, apart from the bizarre budget that he he lumbered us with, is sorting out some of the anomalies. so for instance, on child benefit, you get taxed if you earn over 50,000. however, two people earning 49,000 don't get taxed 50,000. however, two people that is obviously an anomaly that needs to be be sorted out. i do take the point about if you're on 100,000, you don't get any help with child care. if you've got two kids, you'll be paying you've got two kids, you'll be paying 30,000 out. >> i just think it's i don't really understand why he thinks that. be saying out that. he should be saying out loud that 100 grand isn't very much especially he's much money, especially when he's a multi—million nair nana, you know, stella , that know, do you think stella, that this is sort of smacks of some sort of detachment? because honestly, somebody sort of detachment? because honethinks somebody sort of detachment? because honethinkswhat somebody sort of detachment? because honethinks what he's)mebody sort of detachment? because honethinks what he's sayineg sort of detachment? because honethinks what he's saying is who thinks what he's saying is true. people true. there'll be people who

believe agree him. believe him, who agree with him. >> is detachment. and >> it is it is detachment. and it is an empathy gap that he seems to be having, because he is the chancellor. right. and he used health secretary, and used to be health secretary, and he negotiate with junior he used to negotiate with junior doctors. obviously doctors. and obviously junior doctors. and obviously junior doctors a lot less than doctors make a lot less than a hundred k. and he used to say, now, whether you agree with him or right. whatever, whether now, whether you agree with him or agree ht. whatever, whether now, whether you agree with him or agree with/hatever, whether now, whether you agree with him or agree with/hatever, wljunior you agree with how much junior doctors are getting, that's another conversation. but he used to say, no, no, no, you're making more than enough money to them. now he's saying that them. and now he's saying that actually, you what? at 100 actually, you know what? at 100 k not that much. so where is k is not that much. so where is the why it such a big the logic? why is it such a big empathy and at same empathy gap? and at the same time, okay, you don't think time, okay, if you don't think that enough for people that 100 k is enough for people in constituency, what are in your constituency, what are you? so what are you telling the people who are basically earning 30 k? >> let me me give the last >> let me let me give the last 30s to emma webb because emma. emma. so what do you think? what's thoughts then? what's your thoughts then? £100,000 enough ? £100,000 a year? is it enough? >> well, i mean, it's an interesting message, isn't it, for chancellor to send to for the chancellor to send to suggest that £100,000 isn't enough when many people are enough when so many people are surviving on, much less than the

national average, so really that he's actually strangely sending the message that the conservative government haven't done a very good job, because if you can't survive on, at the absolute maximum end, if just short of, being a millionaire, then there's something very, very, very wrong with the way that the economy is being handled. yeah, look, i do, i do think we should recognise that there will be people who particularly people who have very large mortgages, who will be having a very stressful time trying to figure out how to make things work, because people who have a larger income tend to have a larger income tend to have larger financial. >> that's because he has >> but that's because he has raised absolutely tone deaf from him. that's his fault. he's him. but that's his fault. he's raised the interest rates. it's his if that's the case. so his fault if that's the case. so if, you know, like he's literally blamed himself. so very briefly, nigel nelson, £100,000 a year. is it enough yes or no? >> it's too much, adam brooks well, relatively. >> yes it is. but one message to

the chancellor stop taxing success in this country. it's stifling growth . stella. stifling growth. stella. >> no, it's not enough. >> no, it's not enough. >> and emma webb, is it enough , >> and emma webb, is it enough, i mean, you can survive on it, so it's enough ? so it's enough? >> yeah. it's enough. all right. thank you so much to all of you. thank you so much to all of you. thank you so much. well, do you think then, it's £100,000? enough. you earn £100,000. enough. maybe you earn £100,000. maybe now. maybe you're watching now. thinking £100. £100,000. if only i well get in i could earn that. well get in touch. gb views gb news. com, this is gb news coming up. we'll continue with a great british debate this hour. i'm asking is earning £100,000 a year enough. you'll thoughts my you'll hear the thoughts of my panel , danny christine panel, danny kelly and christine hamilton. my hamilton. and still to come, my outside guests . she recounts her outside guests. she recounts her experience being trafficked. you've that in you've got to listen to that in yugoslavia. but first, let's get your headlines. your latest news headlines. >> nana, thank you very much. good afternoon. >> from the newsroom , a recap of >> from the newsroom, a recap of the top stories. just after 4:30, russia's black sea fleet

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gb news. welcome back. this is a gb news. welcome back. this is a gb news. we are the people's channel. don't forget. download the gb news app. it's very good. you can stream the show live . also can stream the show live. also on youtube. it's time for the great debate this hour. great british debate this hour. and i'm asking is earning £100,000 a year enough? jeremy hunt has caused controversy by saying that earning that much is not huge in his salary constituency. camilla tominey pressed him on this earlier today on gb news. >> the grand isn't a large amount of money to earn. >> well, i was talking to a lady who was explaining to me the average house prices in that part of the world, £670,000. if you've got a mortgage, if you're paying you've got a mortgage, if you're paying child care, what looks like a very high salary doesn't go as far as you might think it would. and but, you know, that's under 40 years of tory rule, isn't it? >> i mean, 100 grand is, what, four times more or less the

average salary in this country. so that's a hell of a lot of money to earn, isn't it? why are people on 100 grand feeling that they don't have enough money under conservative government? under a conservative government? >> is because we've >> the reason is because we've been through very difficult >> the reason is because we've been the've very difficult >> the reason is because we've been the've hadry difficult >> the reason is because we've been the've had a difficult >> the reason is because we've been the've had a pandemic , period. we've had a pandemic, we've had an energy crisis. and by it's not just people by the way, it's not just people on salary , it's on on that salary, it's people on all salaries. >> but although 100 grand, >> yeah, but although 100 grand, though, isn't it because of you putting up the interest rates ? putting up the interest rates? listen, while some have sought to both labour to defend mr hunt, both labour and the liberal democrats were quick comments quick to describe his comments as touch . so for the as out of touch. so for the great british debate hour, great british debate this hour, i'm is earning £100,000 i'm asking, is earning £100,000 enough? what enough? right? so let's see what my panel make of that. joining me, broadcaster and journalist danny author and danny kelly, also author and broadcaster christine hamilton. danny kelly, also author and broadc kellychristine hamilton. danny kelly, also author and broadc kelly okay, ne hamilton. danny kelly, also author and broadc kelly okay, i'm-iamilton. danny kelly, also author and broadc kelly okay, i'm going on. danny kelly, also author and broadc kelly okay, i'm going to danny kelly okay, i'm going to i'm going to use his qualifications. >> so his qualification was 100 grand is not a huge. that was his word. it's not a huge amount of money because the average property price is £667,000. so let's just using that qualification . so would £50,000 qualification. so would £50,000 be considered a huge amount of

money if the average property price where you lived was £330,000? and i don't think 50 grand is a huge amount of money, and we're using his precise qualification . so the house qualification. so the house pnces qualification. so the house prices are 650 , 700 grand prices are 650, 700 grand average. a lot, a lot will be a lot more, and a few will be a bit less, obviously the average. so i don't think it is a huge amount of if you live in amount of money if you live in that part surrey , that particular part of surrey, if you're in inner city liverpool, it's massive amount liverpool, it's a massive amount of changing. of money. it's life changing. >> so and it is >> but okay, so and it is the bank of england raised bank of england that raised interest fair to interest rates to be fair to england, do you? he does england, do you? but he does come a tax structure in come up with a tax structure in the he's the systems and stuff. so he's got responsibility. got to take responsibility. >> of >> that's right. the bank of england government policy. >> right. em“ >> that's right. well exactly. but they're but they're reacting. they're all together. all all in it together. they're all talking discussing. not talking and discussing. it's not coming isolation . but but coming out in isolation. but but let's he his let's be honest, he him and his government have come out with some ridiculous policies. they've taxed us the hilt and they've taxed us to the hilt and in times, 100 grand would in normal times, 100 grand would be the way in normal times, 100 grand would be done the way in normal times, 100 grand would be done it, the way in normal times, 100 grand would be done it, if the way in normal times, 100 grand would be done it, if 100 the way in normal times, 100 grand would be done it, if 100 grandthe way in normal times, 100 grand would be done it, if 100 grand isn't ay he's done it, if 100 grand isn't enough, then neither is 35,000. christine >> it's. we all do stupid >> it's. and we all do stupid things all do stupid >> it's. and we all do stupid things on all do stupid >> it's. and we all do stupid things on socialll do stupid >> it's. and we all do stupid things on social media.upid >> it's. and we all do stupid things on social media. but for him to put out, he is the

richest, apparently member of the not richer the cabinet. maybe not richer than but right than rishi sunak, but he's right up an incredibly up there. he's an incredibly rich sort come rich man. and to sort of come out with a remark like that saying 100,000 isn't very much, i talk about cocking i mean, talk about cocking a snook the average working snook at the average working person. mean , the average, person. i mean, the average, wage in this, i think it's 30,000 or something. or is it less? i think , of course it less? i think, of course it depends where you live. and 100,000 will get you far more up in the inner city. liverpool than it will in the green pastures of godalming. i think it is where his constituency is. but, i mean, yes, it's a lot of money. the top, i think it's the, the, the top 4% in this country. >> so it's a very small number of people earn over 100,000. >> we're talking about a minuscule number. and then the top 1% earned way more than that. so most people don't earn 100,000. i mean, mps any minute now are going to be earning 100,000. >> their salary is just gone up. and if 100,000 is a lot of money, why do so many mps moonlight and earn money elsewhere? >> that's because they're >> well, that's because they're greedy and they're using their

position more income. position to acquire more income. if you're an mp, you need to just focus on that job. i don't think they should have second jobs actually think jobs at all. i actually think that big job. that that's a big enough job. you've got constituency of you've got a constituency of thousands to look thousands of people to look after. how is it that after. so how is it that you need to another of, need to do anotherjob of, i think we're unfair on think we're being unfair on jeremy hunt. >> if there was £100,000 on this table in £50 notes, i would say that's amount of money. that's a huge amount of money. but this is not what he's saying. >> he's not a lot of money. >> i would say it is a huge amount of money if there's 100 grand on our but that's grand on our table, but that's not saying. he's not what he's saying. and he's qualified. he's been specific and think we're being and i think that we're being unfair he is saying if unfair to him. he is saying if you in surrey your you live in surrey and your average is 670 grand average house price is 670 grand or £100,000, and let's not forget £33,000 of that £100,000 goes to the government, you are left net 67,500 pounds. >> no, i don't you . >> no, i don't you. >> no, i don't you. >> that's not a huge amount of money. >> no, no but but it depends what you think huge is. but the bottom line here, i just think it's a very crass, crass and

stupid silly thing for a politician in his position to have said, i mean, you know, you can argue the cows come home whether it's a lot or a little, because it all depends on a myriad factors. >> just for him to drop >> i just think for him to drop that pot, he's just i that into the pot, he's just i think it's unfair. >> you're forgetting his precise qualification , he said. he said qualification, he said. he said in that part of world, it's in that part of the world, it's not huge amount of money. not a huge amount of money. >> yeah, i know that. >> yeah, i know he said that. i'm just i just think the i'm just saying i just think the whole he bother to put whole why did he bother to put that look at the that out? we look at the discussions having, it's discussions we're having, it's all newspapers about all over the newspapers about how he is. but how out of touch he is. but that's i think that's what that's why i think that's what people about. people are being unfair about. >> situation is he's people are being unfair about. >> of situation is he's people are being unfair about. >> of touch. situation is he's people are being unfair about. >> of touch. why ation is he's people are being unfair about. >> of touch. why is on is he's people are being unfair about. >> of touch. why is he is he's people are being unfair about. >> of touch. why is he is hof out of touch. why is he out of touch? he's. he's talking specifically about living in a 700 surrey. 700 grand house in surrey. >> he's the chancellor. >> but he's the chancellor. >> but he's the chancellor. >> presided over state >> he's presided over the state of economy. presided of the economy. he's presided over the fact that we've got the highest of tax. highest level of tax. >> other people have >> i know other people have control different levers, control over different levers, but chancellor. but he is the chancellor. >> he's the who >> he's the one who has. overall, is figurehead overall, he is the figurehead for the economy of this country, andifs for the economy of this country, and it's pretty dire. but you're right. >> what does huge mean? the definition of huge. well,

exactly . so subjective. exactly. so subjective. >> no, but but but in general, i think £100, £100,000 is a lot of money earn. money to earn. >> fair, if it's on that >> to be fair, if it's on that table, i'd agree with you. >> a of money. and also >> it's a lot of money. and also the focusing on the fact that he's focusing on his as, he his constituencies as, as he that is his constituency. he is meant he of course, as meant to. but he of course, as those houses are expensive live. and if you can't afford to live there, then you move somewhere else. because if you've got such a large salary and you can't afford live the that afford to live in the house that you're in, sure he'll you're in, then i'm sure he'll be to tell you that be the first to tell you that you cut your coat you should cut your coat according to your. >> so you're agreeing with him as roundabout way? >> w— >> no, i'm not agreeing. >> no, i'm not agreeing. >> not. he's saying if you >> i'm not. he's saying if you haven't 100 grand, you're haven't got 100 grand, you're not live there. haven't got 100 grand, you're not saying ve there. haven't got 100 grand, you're not saying that|ere. haven't got 100 grand, you're not saying that what you >> i'm saying that what you should telling constituents should be telling constituents who his who can't afford to live in his constituency to move somewhere else where they can afford, right. what he says. i've right. that's what he says. i've got to get these people on because nothing because the show is nothing without great british without them. our great british voices. welcome, one of voices. let's welcome, one of you i got reid in you on have i got john reid in kidderminster ? let's go to kidderminster? let's go to kidderminster. no map. map's kidderminster. no map. the map's gone. map . john. john. gone. john. the map. john. john. no, didn't haven't got a clue no, i didn't haven't got a clue that we love the map. >> nina. yeah, i know, he's

earning £100,000 a year. enough, enough for what? >> it depends on your life expectations , doesn't it? expectations, doesn't it? >> i bought a house in walton on thames in surrey in 1970 for £4,650, and lived in it for ten years, and a very low salary. >> it's all relative, isn't it, but i think what he's saying is completely wrong, and i'm i'm with, christine on this. he's being rather stupid, talking the way he does. he's coming from a position of somebody with loads of money, the highest salary i ever earned. and when i was in proper work, which i've been out of for some years now, but for a proper work. £40,000. but i live now, live in kidderminster, which is much cheaper place to live. so >> exactly. that's. well, well, john. well, john, that's the point i'm making, that if the people are coming to him saying they to there, they can't afford to live there, they can't afford to live there, they they they can't afford to live there, they afford. they they can't afford to live there, they afford. reid, they they can't afford to live there, they afford. reid, thank they they can't afford to live there, they afford. reid, thank youy can afford. john reid, thank you so great british so much. he's that great british voice. gb coming voice. this is gb news coming up in houn voice. this is gb news coming up in hour. course , in the next hour. of course, we're going to be discussing. i'm asking whether defence

i'm asking you whether defence spending cuts. which spending or tax cuts. which one would next would you prefer? but next worldview, get the latest worldview, we'll get the latest from what's happening us from what's happening in the us and israel

good afternoon. this is tv news on tv , online and on digital on tv, online and on digital radio. it's time now for world view. donald trump has been in the news for all the wrong reasons. again, the president being told that he's come up with come up with half with has to come up with half a billion to cash for, because with has to come up with half a billi(obviously for, because with has to come up with half a billi(obviously losingecause with has to come up with half a billi(obviously losing his se he's obviously losing his assets, potentially because of all that's all this nonsense that's happening around him. joe biden's already come up with a nickname for donald trump ahead of rematch , which of the upcoming rematch, which broke what he's calling broke down is what he's calling him. has talked to the host him. but has talked to the host of the politics people podcast, paul duddridge, to get the latest we've not latest paul duddridge. we've not got so what have you got much time, so what have you got much time, so what have you got me , you've covered it got for me, you've covered it beautifully. sorry. i'm in a i'm in the mojave desert filming,

the, donald trump in court tomorrow has to come up with half $1 billion by tomorrow or potentially lose his properties. it looks like what the prosecutors will do actually , is prosecutors will do actually, is go straight to the bank. any new york bank, they'll walk in with a court order and demand a certified check . a cashier's certified check. a cashier's check. i think they call it here, of all his bank donald trump, president trump is saying that he actually now does have this half $1 billion. his lawyers last week when we talked before said he didn't. so he's saying, i do have the half billion dollars . i don't want to billion dollars. i don't want to spend it on this. i want to spend it on this. i want to spend it on the campaign. one of the strategies he might adopt tomorrow, and this is what, we're see, he we're all waiting to see, is he might declare bankruptcy if might just declare bankruptcy if he declares bankruptcy. this kicks the long kicks it again into the long grass. and there has to be a lot of procedures and a lot of legal wrangling. the problem is, apparently are saying apparently insiders are saying he doesn't want to declare bankruptcy, a strategy he's used , many times in the past. he does want to declare bankruptcy

because it will invite a lot of ridicule, bearing in mind he's presenting himself as a businessman, running for president. so that's apparently low down on his list of, of options, but it would actually get him out of a very tight squeak. or he might just hand over the money tomorrow. he might. he might. and it's outrageous that he listen. >> paul duddridge, we've got to go. it's good to talk to go. but it's good to talk to you. maybe when you you. and maybe one week when you come you'll come and come to the uk, you'll come and do paul do your bit in the studio. paul duddridge, much, duddridge, thank you so much, host people host of the politics people podcast. let's podcast. right now, let's quickly to tel aviv and quickly fly over to tel aviv and have a chat with mystifier and performer uri geller for the latest on the ground in israel. hi so what's been hi uri, so what's been happening? nana. >> listen, i've got to you . >> listen, i've got to tell you. yes, it's finally happened. >> uri geller is in a straight jacket. look. oh yeah. and look up there, houdini. and i'll tell you why. but before my critics get too excited, let me explain

you why i'm in a straight jacket. believe it or not, this straight jacket belonged to none other than houdini. the most famous escape artist in the world. i got it as a gift to put on display in my museum. but nana, look at me. what you see is exactly how israel is fighting the war in gaza. in a straight jacket. israel is having its arms held behind its back by the rest of the world. i'm being serious now, nana. this is how israelis feel. we're being told. stop attacking. stop defending yourself. don't go into rafah . open the borders. into rafah. open the borders. don't do anything at all. give gaza everything nana. look, it's like having handcuffs on. and these handcuffs belonged also to houdini. now listen , nana, how houdini. now listen, nana, how would britain feel if the rest of the world told you in 1982? cate hollis ceasefire with

argentina over the falklands? do not finish the war or let's go back to 1945. stop fighting germany because you're killing civilians. well, this is what it is like for israel now. the world is letting us down. this week, canada said it will stop sending arms to israel . the sending arms to israel. the netherlands, japan, spain and belgium have already suspended arms sales and before yesterday , arms sales and before yesterday, nana. let me just finish. the us secretary of state, antony blinken, came to israel and preached to our prime minister. but we said , thanks, but no but we said, thanks, but no thanks. look, now israel is fighting a moral war and we're doing everything we can. you can you? >> we are running out of time. so sorry we don't have more, but i get your point. thank you so much for joining i get your point. thank you so much forjoining me. that's the much for joining me. that's the brilliance , geller. but brilliance, uri geller. but first update with first let's get an update with your marco. your weather with marco. >> a brighter outlook with boxt

solar sponsors of weather on gb news . news. news. news. >> hello. here's your latest weather update from the met office for gb news. we saw a quiet day weather wise across the uk on sunday, but things are turning more unsettled once again the week again during the week ahead, with rain times . a with wind and rain at times. a ridge pressure brought ridge of high pressure brought a quieter low quieter day on sunday, but low pressure is already gathering towards the west and that will move the ahead to move in during the week ahead to return unsettled conditions. return to unsettled conditions. wind already arriving wind and rain already arriving across the west and southwest of the for the overnight period. the uk for the overnight period. some turning quite some of that rain turning quite heavy whereas towards heavy in places, whereas towards the east it's clearer. the north and east it's clearer. just showers lingering the north and east it's clearer. just certainlyowers lingering the north and east it's clearer. just certainly a/ers lingering the north and east it's clearer. just certainly a touch1gering the north and east it's clearer. just certainly a touch1gefrost and certainly a touch of frost possible in the north and east by the early hours of monday morning. the morning. whereas out towards the west southwest west and southwest those temperatures climb temperatures will start to climb . as for monday itself, with a very in store cost some very wet days in store cost some western and southwestern areas, particularly across the south—west very south—west of england, some very heavy rain developing here at times, towards north times, whereas towards the north and bright picture , and east it's a bright picture, at for time, before wind at least for a time, before wind and to in from and rain starts to move in from the southwest turning snow

the southwest, turning to snow as colder air across as it reaches colder air across parts scotland , especially on parts of scotland, especially on the north central the hills north of the central belt particularly later on belt and particularly later on in day. temperatures peaking in the day. temperatures peaking at down the at 12 celsius down towards the south—east, a bit colder though towards northeast . towards the north and northeast. as for tuesday, what a very unsettled day is expected across scotland. rain and snow at times snow chiefly on the hills, but some rain and of some of that rain and some of that could be quite heavy that snow could be quite heavy elsewhere. it's a pretty unsettled rain showers unsettled day. rain or showers never and those never too far away, and those temperatures struggling , temperatures struggling, reaching an average at reaching an average figures at best, and staying pretty unsettled the week ahead with unsettled in the week ahead with showers or longer spells of rain. those rain. and again, those temperatures into the temperatures struggling into the low . low double figures. >> looks like things are heating up . boxt boilers sponsors of up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on

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find out. but first, let's get your latest . news. your latest. news. >> nana. thank you very much. >> nana. thank you very much. >> good afternoon from the gb newsroom i'm sam francis and a look at the headlines just after 5:00, russia's black sea fleet is now functionally inactive. >> that's according to the defence secretary after a massive ukrainian missile strike on sevastopol . on sevastopol. >> for those watching on television, this was the moment that two russian navy vessels were targeted. and then struck . were targeted. and then struck. security sources have told gb news that the uk supplied storm shadow missiles in that strike. a major military communication centre was also damaged. it marks the largest attack on the russian controlled port in the war so far, as tensions in the region continue to escalate .

region continue to escalate. meanwhile, islamic state has released new footage which appears to back up the terror group's claim that it was behind friday's attack in moscow. we have chosen not to show that video, but this footage for those watching on television shows the four suspects being taken into custody for interrogation in the russian caphal interrogation in the russian capital, russia is claiming without evidence that they were detained attempting to escape across the border into ukraine. ukraine, though, has denied any involvement and simon harris has been confirmed this afternoon as the new leader of the fine gael party, paving the way for him to become ireland's youngest premier it follows the surprise resignation of leo varadkar on wednesday this week for what he described as personal and political reasons. well, at the age of just 37, mr harris is expected to be formally elected as taoiseach in april after the easter recess. and speaking moments ago, he said he would repay the trust put in him with hard work . i

repay the trust put in him with hard work. i hope repay the trust put in him with hard work . i hope enterprise repay the trust put in him with hard work. i hope enterprise is equality of opportunity, integrity and security. >> i have been in this party since i was 15 years old and those values mean and meant everything to me because i believe in public service, i believe in public service, i believe in public service, i believe in the power of to politics make a difference. i believe that politics as a profession can make people's lives better . lives better. >> meanwhile, in london, hundreds of protest protesters and environmental campaigners are still demonstrating outside the british museum. this afternoon , activists can be seen afternoon, activists can be seen waving banners, palestinian flags and shouting hands off the middle east! the group, calling itself the energy embargo for palestine, have said that they will keep targeting the building until it ends partnership until it ends its partnership with bp. well, that comes after the british museum confirmed it was extending its partnership with the oil giant for another decade in a deal worth £50

million. in other news, the chancellor has defended the government's record on affordable housing after claiming £100,000 a year is, he said , not a huge salary. jeremy said, not a huge salary. jeremy hunt says it doesn't go as far as you would think for people in his surrey constituency , amid his surrey constituency, amid higher house prices there and the rising cost of living , the the rising cost of living, the average home now costs around eight times the average income in the uk, and it was half that in the uk, and it was half that in the uk, and it was half that in the 1990s, the chancellor told camilla tominey on gb news this morning that lower taxes will make a difference to average house prices. >> in that part of the world. £670,000. if you've got a mortgage, if you're paying childcare , what looks like a childcare, what looks like a very high salary doesn't go as far as you might think it would. if you look at the average salary in this country, £35,000, they have been feeling the pinch. and those people will see their tax bills go down by £900 this year. if you look at people

on an even lower salary, the lowest legally payable salary, the national living wage, because i've increased that to £11.44, they will see if they're working full time. their income go working full time. their income 9° up working full time. their income g0 [ip by working full time. their income go up by £1,800. >> joni mitchell has returned to spotify more than two years after boycotting the music streaming service over comments by the controversial podcaster joe rogan. >> the legendary folk singer announced that she was pulling her catalogue from the site in 2020, joining fellow musician neil young. it was in protest against spotify's multiyear deal with rogan, who's accused of spreading misinformation about covid vaccines. both artists have called on the streamer to address the spread of false information on the site. and finally, fast food was given a very new meaning in paris today as cafe staff took part in the traditional waiters race. the famous course de cafe returned this afternoon .

this afternoon. >> gb views gb views well, the famous race returned this afternoon after a 13 year break. >> around 200 waiters raced across the city through the streets, carefully balancing a tray with a pastry and a cup of coffee and a glass of tap water. balanced in their hands. the race was first held in 1914, and even today waiters are still expected to dress in their sunday best, paris being the city of style. the winners of the race this year took home a complimentary meal and tickets to the olympic games in paris. fascinating stories here on gb news. for more of the latest and breaking stories you can scan the code there on your screen. gb gbnews.com/alerts is the other way to get the latest updates, but now it's back to .

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or tax? then, as ever, get in touch. email gb views at gb news. com or tweet me at . gb news. com or tweet me at. gb news. com or tweet me at. gb news. if she's had her organs after she's still here, i don't know which ones. it must have been right. each sunday at five, i'm joined by someone who's had an interesting i'm joined by someone who's had an and teresting i'm joined by someone who's had an and weesting i'm joined by someone who's had an and we talk] i'm joined by someone who's had an and we talk about experience and we talk about life afterwards. highs, life afterwards. we talk highs, lows learned and lows and lessons learned and what comes next on the outside. my a remarkable my guest is a remarkable individual who has transformed adversity a adversity into empowerment, a survivor human trafficking. survivor of human trafficking. trafficking. she's now an acclaimed , motivational acclaimed author, motivational speaken acclaimed author, motivational speaker, and a presentation skills coach. her international career spans continents, empowering sea level executives, diplomats and charities alike. through her work , she fosters through her work, she fosters connections, overcomes obstacles, and promotes positivity for transformative outcomes. that sounds incredible, but who is she? i'm delighted to say i'm joined now by author and human trafficking survivor loretta lyon. right, so , loretta, first of all, which organs did you have harvested?

did you you didn't have? >> no, not myself, but these were trafficking. sex were the human trafficking. sex trafficking . trafficking. >> and what they did with the >> and so what they did with the girls the were girls were once the girls were done with their sexual exploitation, they never set them free. so they just took the organs at the end and then said, yeah, and they killed them. >> so , i mean, it's very big >> so, i mean, it's very big news. it doesn't take a rocket science . science. >> you know, you don't have to be a rocket scientist to work it out with people are you out with these people are if you just trafficking just google sex trafficking and organ . organ harvesting. >> during the war in former yugoslavia, a lot of the information will be shown on on google and all about it. i haven't gone i haven't mentioned them on my book because i don't want to start a war with with people that you can't finish a war. >> for me, it's not about starting a war. >> i just want to raise awareness so we can stop this. so talk to me about your story. >> did you find yourself >> how did you find yourself in a where were being a position where you were being trafficked? on? trafficked? what was going on? where trafficked where where were you trafficked from? find yourself from? how did you find yourself in situation ? in that situation? >> well, it was war in former

yugoslavia, and we happen to live in serbia. and our town was singled out for ethnic cleansing, and we were about to be massacred . be massacred. >> the story is really deep. and this scene, i'm not doing it justice. >> but after so much struggle and my uncle bribed in the army to set the town free, which they did, surprisingly, after he gave all his wealth and some thanks to him, the whole town is still alive . my dad said, you've got alive. my dad said, you've got to run away because now the soldiers are raping and abusing women and children. he said, i want you to go to kosovo, cross borders illegally and find shelter at the charities like red cross and so on. long story short, i crossed the borders. i ended up in the streets of kosovo, only to be discovered by two un police officers, which were americans . and to this day were americans. and to this day they still my friends peter and bnan. they still my friends peter and brian . and they realised i brian. and they realised i couldn't speak any word in engush couldn't speak any word in english anyway. so everybody needs to know this. so i had a

translator there. they had a translator there. they had a translator there, and they said, you can't be to the you can't be going to the shelter because you are from serbia. this is only for the kosovans , but we'll give you kosovans, but we'll give you shelter until we know what to do . lo and behold, i was with them for some time , and the for quite some time, and the translator at the time went and reported to the local guys that there is this really young girl from serbia that's being sheltered by the un troops . sheltered by the un troops. >> how old were you? >> how old were you? >> i was 17, 18 at that point. so still super young, turning 18. in fact, it was i think around that time it was my birthday because i remember them being a bit special about it and, and i was never allowed to leave their apartment without them. but this one day after i did all the cleaning, which they didn't ask for , i just did it didn't ask for, i just did it out of gesture of goodwill because they looked me so because they looked after me so well. i thought, you know, i've done chores and there is done all the chores and there is no electricity, so should i maybe just go and get a magazine? and the thing is that ispeak magazine? and the thing is that i speak albanian fluently and

serbian fluently. so i went to get an albanian magazine or newspaper just to read, and newspaperjust to read, and that's when i got taken by human trafficking . they were guarding. trafficking. they were guarding. they were literally spying on our apartment. and just as i walked out with the door, i left the door open outside. you know, of the apartment because i thought, i'm coming back. and they just took me and off i went. >> so. so you were outside the apartment , >> so. so you were outside the apartment, and they >> so. so you were outside the apartment , and they literally apartment, and they literally just rustled you up and put you in a van. literally. >> i was a i say this in >> i was a i always say this in my was about to tell my speeches. i was about to tell them say, you them off, to say, whoa, you don't go the pavement kind of don't go on the pavement kind of thing. then i didn't have thing. and then i didn't have time to i had this thing time to speak. i had this thing thrown my head was thrown over my head and i was shoved into this van. i felt like i was dreaming, but it was happening at the same time. and i just wanted to wake up from this nightmare found this nightmare that i found myself in. but during the process, they took me to process, when they took me to this boss guy and during the process of the boss said, please, could you, please , could

please, could you, please, could you? i'm being too polite now. he just gave the order for me to be raped. and that's when i screamed because i was thrown on the floor and being abused . and the floor and being abused. and i said, please don't. don't do this. i'm a virgin. i was terrified , died, and i was terrified, died, and i was crying, obviously. and he heard that and he said, guys, stop. we have stumbled across a huge cargo. and i'm thinking, what cargo? a young, naive of cargo. i thought he meant goods, but to them, cargo was humans. young humans , men, women and all sorts humans, men, women and all sorts of ages . i didn't know this of ages. i didn't know this until they groomed me and then they were communicating with me because i was with them the whole time. i was the only one with at time. i was with them at that time. i was precious them before they precious to them before they were to me on to the were about to ship me on to the highest bidder that had bought me, they groom me , and the me, they groom me, and the grooming process was really horrific of having , you know, to horrific of having, you know, to watch some really quite crazy sexual acts and abusing other women just for the sake of me to

learn something . i think for me, learn something. i think for me, that will haunt me for the rest of my life, even though i've healed quite a lot, i've never made peace with the people that haven't made it through. they haven't made it through. they haven't it out alive like i haven't made it out alive like i did, and i was really, really lucky to have escaped them. i'm not going to spoil the book, obviously, for the readers that like to take their time to read about these stories, but i managed to. >> where you on your own with these guys, these people, or were there others because you said people said that there are other people that make out? that didn't make it out? >> that they were >> the girls that they were bringing that they were bringing in, that they were raping and for my sake, to learn how sexual acts are done or what. >> so this wasn't even a video you actually had to watch. >> i had to watch live, live rape. >> that's awful. apologies to anybody that you may find this distressing. >> so yeah . sorry. i know it's. >> so yeah. sorry. i know it's. it's hard to digest sometimes , it's hard to digest sometimes, and i think we just need to be comfortable with the uncomfortable in order to make a difference in the world, because this is going on in this country

as well. we've got british national girls that are in our safe houses and they've been trafficked by their boyfriends, or rather, someone else. but it's still going on under our very nose , under a country that very nose, under a country that is actually so established and is actually so established and is safe . it's not even war here. is safe. it's not even war here. so this is happening with or without war. >> so how did you get out of that, though? because you said you escaped. you're lucky to have what happened have escaped. what happened without giving too much away? honest? yeah >> i don't want to. i don't want to because it's a whole long story about what happened between the grooming between the whole grooming system and before i escaped. but that particular night, because i caught so much, every opportunity i got, i caused a scene in restaurants. they were going. they took me with them . going. they took me with them. and so i would want to go to the bathroom, and then i would cause a scene, and then the guards would and throw me. so would hold me and throw me. so i think the, the staff that were working this pizza places and working in this pizza places and restaurants, they realised this girl under a tremendous

girl is under a tremendous amount of stress and maybe they reported it that something is happening. by the time we reached the house where they were holding me and training me this night , the boss this particular night, the boss got a call and he said, she is more trouble than she's worth it. please rape her killer, discard her body. i don't want her. she's crazy. he got so mad and he literally ran out of that apartment. and he left this young the youngest team member to do all of that on his own. and that's when my friends started off me thinking, oh my god, i am about to die . and so god, i am about to die. and so my intention to escape was never there. but i just wanted to buy myself a bit of time. it's really scary knowing you're going to die. so i just said to him, please let me pray , because him, please let me pray, because i'm really scared. and can we do this , you know, with kindness this, you know, with kindness and, he gave me that, i have to say. and i managed to pray. and as i was praying, he went to the

bathroom and he left the keys on, on the table, the glass table and the gun. and when i turned around to see what the click was about because i was praying on the floor, like to mighty god, like i've never prayed before , i noticed the prayed before, i noticed the keys and i thought, i can't touch the gun. i've never held a gun in my life. so i took the keys , went to the doors. i was keys, went to the doors. i was fiddling with the doors. it was two doors. one was wooden from the the metal from the inside and the metal from the inside and the metal from the like a prison door. the outside like a prison door. so was fiddling with that so when i was fiddling with that doon so when i was fiddling with that door, opened it eventually, door, i opened it eventually, but made so much noise that but it made so much noise that alarmed him. and so i started running from the fourth floor, like skipping all those stairs . like skipping all those stairs. and he was right behind me. and then when he reached me at the end of the stairs, he punched me so i flying into the so hard i went flying into the main road. and by this point it was after midnight . that's when was after midnight. that's when i a flashing light of i saw a flashing light of a police officer parking his van. his truck , same as my police his truck, same as my police officers. peter and brian was wide red, so it was very clear

to me it was a police officer. i just started screaming and this italian police officer heard me. un police officer . he then was un police officer. he then was coming towards me to see what's the distress on the middle of the distress on the middle of the road. and the guy started shooting at him and the police officer was defending. so he was shooting. were shooting at shooting. they were shooting at each other where i was crawling on towards police on the floor towards the police officer . after they took officer. so after that they took me station . i gave me to the police station. i gave my interview, they asked me to appearin my interview, they asked me to appear in court and then potentially hague. i said, i want nothing with this. want nothing to do with this. here's interview . you've got here's the interview. you've got everything you need. said, everything you need. i said, i just to go and die with my just want to go and die with my parents in serbia during the war because is it's because i said, this is it's just scared me for life. and they reunited me with peter and brian. i then said goodbyes. it was the last time i saw brian and went off. but when i returned back to serbia, it's mentioned in the book and i just give people some background. i crossed the border illegally, which we were not meant to do ,

which we were not meant to do, and in in the courtyard in our house, just in the garden, a van pulled in as just as i walked in to say hi to my mum and dad, and they took me and they imprisoned me for six months in a solitary confinement . and that was really confinement. and that was really i that was bad in i thought that was bad in kosovo, but then it got really bad with sexual abuse and, and i got, i got deformed . i mean, got, i got deformed. i mean, everything has been fixed with surgery. yeah but i was, i was really deformed and. wow. yeah. so and then six months was a moulding time for me. it was, they taught me a lot of hate and i don't know, things that i didn't know because i was such a happy didn't know because i was such a happy kid . and they also that happy kid. and they also that moulded me to think that maybe, maybe just only maybe there is some good in them that they haven't discovered yet. and i started seeing them. i was feeling sorry for them, not for me anymore, and i would just

disconnect from when they were abusing me sexually. i would just sort of meditate what i know now as meditation and think of people that inspire me. like nancy mandela, he was always my inspiration in what he went through with his, you know, injustice and, you know, just people that inspire me throughout my life and thinking of my mom and you are so brave. sorry to break down. i never i never thought i would be brave and that is such an incredible story . story. >> it really is. >> it really is. >> wow. it's just horrific. but it shows that , you know, i it shows that, you know, i learned i learned to love and i love learned forgiveness . and love learned forgiveness. and now i just want to raise awareness. mental has awareness. mental health has become a big for me become such a big topic for me and everyone . we've and i care for everyone. we've been divided over the years by religion, by colour, by ethnicity, by so many things gendenl ethnicity, by so many things gender. i think if we just strip all that away, we realise we just all the same. and if people could for just once not just all the same. and if people could forjust once not be could for just once not be divided and just look, just find that in themselves. we were born

to be one and support each other. we should be each other's allies and not the enemy. and i said this at the awards, didn't i actually won an award? >> of course you did, inspirational woman . inspirational woman. >> i know, it was just. wow. so. yeah, i want this story to reach people with inspiration, just as it has been , to my surprise. i it has been, to my surprise. i mean, everyone can relate to it because they're relating to the pain and the struggle. you know, everyone has to go through war and but, yeah . and kidnapping. but, yeah. >> well, for those listening on radio, what's the book called and when is it out? >> so the book is called unbroken surviving human trafficking by loretta lyon . trafficking by loretta lyon. and, it's available on amazon only to order and it gets delivered straight away the next day. >> well, listen, loretta, thank you so much for sharing your story. an amazing story. i hear you now, a jujitsu star. after that, you learned some jujitsu . that, you learned some jujitsu. it's true. she is. >> oh, thank you, nana. but i had to keep my mind and, you know, zen. so i turned into

martial art just to be able to, you know , tame my demons. you know, tame my demons. >> well, loretta, thank you so much for sharing. thank you for having me. >> thank you. thank you. >> thank you. thank you. >> appreciate that. >> nana appreciate that. that's loretta she's human loretta lynn, she's a human trafficking you trafficking survivor. and if you were trafficking or were a victim of trafficking or suspect someone may be a victim of trafficking, contact of trafficking, you can contact the modern slavery helpline confidentially on oh 8000 121 700 and it's open 24 hours a day. that's 0800 0121700. it's open 365 days a year. if you want to remain anonymous , that's want to remain anonymous, that's fine as well. just you can also contact crime stoppers on oh 805 111. well that was my outside guest. an incredible story. wow. listen. stay tuned. coming up, i'll be joined by my great british voices, their opportunity to tell us what they think about the topics we're discussing. because up next, in think about the topics we're discgreat]. because up next, in think about the topics we're discgreat british jse up next, in think about the topics we're discgreat british debate, ext, in think about the topics we're discgreat british debate, i'm in the great british debate, i'm asking , the great british debate, i'm asking, would you the great british debate, i'm asking , would you prefer defence asking, would you prefer defence spending or tax cuts? i've got to pull up right now on x asking you that question. send me you that very question. send me your , email your thoughts, email gbviews@gbnews.uk at

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countries like russia. only 27% sai(taxes .he government should countries like russia. only 27% sai(taxes . the overnment should countries like russia. only 27% sai(taxes . the findings 1t should countries like russia. only 27% sai(taxes . the findings comeuld cut taxes. the findings come after a number of senior tories called them for the party to raise its defence spending 3% raise its defence spending to 3% of if the great british of gdp, so if the great british debate this hour, i'm asking what would you prefer? defence spending or tax well, spending or tax cuts? well, joining the joining me to discuss the director of popular conservatives, mark littlewood, a british army commander , a former british army commander, colonel richard kemp, and independent economist julian jessop . right. well, so what do jessop. right. well, so what do you think? i'm going to start with, with you, colonel richard kemp ? yeah what do you think , kemp? yeah what do you think, spending or tax cuts? >> well, i'm not sure . >> well, i'm not sure. >> well, i'm not sure. >> i'm certainly not an economist or an expert on our financial system, but, i don't think it's a binary choice between defence spending and tax cuts. >> there's no doubt in my mind. and you probably expect me to say this, that we definitely need money on need to spend more money on defence. our defences have been whittled , very badly whittled away very, very badly over many decades, and we now face probably the greatest

threats that this country has faced since the second world war. without adequate defences to confront them. so that, i think, would be my starting position. but whether or not that can only be funded by tax cuts, i would i would strongly question and perhaps perhaps you could look at, you know, other areas of our economy that could be reduced in order to pay for extra defences, like, for example, some of the immense social welfare bills that we pay , which i'm sure there must be plenty of room for trimming them. things like overseas aid, of course, some of it is important, some is valuable, some is needed, but not all of it. and of course, there's vast amounts spent. some would argue squandered on the climate change issue , which perhaps is a threat issue, which perhaps is a threat that people disagree on for the for the distant future. but the defence, the problem we face in defence, the problem we face in defence is an immediate threat which does need to be addressed. so money be got into so maybe money can be got into defence of those defence from one of those areas. for . all right, let's

for example. all right, let's try mark littlewood. he's the director of popular conservatives. mark >> well, nana, you might find that we're all going to vociferously agree in terms of this big debate, but it's as we've just heard, it's not a straight binary choice when forced to make one. >> i did say tax cuts because i think that taxation is now so horrifically high in the british economy that we've got to reduce taxes to try and incentivise work. and we're not really doing that. but when we actually are looking at things we want to spend more on, and i'm concerned that defence spending is not sufficiently high for our needs. and you would have thought the defence of the realm is basically the first priority of government expenditure, the number one priority. well, i, i agree with what's just been said. let's try and find some cuts elsewhere . and we've got to cuts elsewhere. and we've got to get off this argument that if we identify of spending identify an area of spending where want more spending, it identify an area of spending wheto want more spending, it identify an area of spending wheto be want more spending, it identify an area of spending wheto be taxesmore spending, it identify an area of spending wheto be taxes goingpending, it identify an area of spending wheto be taxes going up1ding, it identify an area of spending wheto be taxes going up rathert has to be taxes going up rather than just recalibrating our

spending priorities and deciding that, i don't know, not to spend quite as much on welfare or not quite as much on welfare or not quite as much on welfare or not quite as much on some of the other things listed. so tax cuts, please, priority cuts, please, a high priority for me. but of all the things we do spend money on, defence is probably the one closest to my heart. >> yes, but i hear you. but in an ideal world, obviously, that would be lovely if they would be prepared to sort of rebalance the spending. but that doesn't seem happen, it? they seem to happen, does it? they just taxes up. julian just put the taxes up. so julian jessop well, i'm going to agree with richard and mark. >> i don't think it is a straight choice between increased spending on defence or cuts in taxes. indeed, there there are some way that if you target the tax cuts, well, you can actually boost growth in the economy and end up with more tax revenues in order to finance increased public spending on defence, i think if there is an exception, it probably is defence, defence is what economists call a, a public good. it's something that really the state has to provide rather

than the rather than the private sector. and are facing sector. and we are facing extraordinary challenges. you know, the, the what's happening with russia, but also the growth of china . and you're very of china. and you're very striking interview that you just had with, with loretta lynn emphasising there's some very bad people even in the rest of mainland europe. so i would make defence a priority, but i think there are savings that can be made elsewhere in the budget, by the way, including in the defence budget. i mean, defence procurement notoriously procurement is notoriously inefficient. we have a habit of spending billions of pounds on on rubbish projects, often because we want to sort of build our own , you know, british light our own, you know, british light tank or whatever might tank or whatever else it might be rather than buying an off the shelf version that we know works from some other so the from some other country. so the pretty that we can pretty big savings that we can make, within the defence make, even within the defence budget. the for budget. but i think the case for increasing defence spending does look increasingly over look increasingly strong over the years . the last few years. >> okay. well thank you for your thoughts. jessop, thoughts. julian jessop, independent conor independent economist conor kemp, former british army commander. and mark littlewood,

director of the popular conservatives. thank you so much. well, what you think? much. well, what do you think? you're with me. i'm nana akua. this news on tv, online this is gp news on tv, online and on digital radio. coming up, we'll the great we'll continue with the great british hour. british debate this hour. i'm asking spending asking defence spending or tax cuts. you prefer? cuts. what would you prefer? you'll hear the thoughts of my panel and broadcaster panel author and broadcaster christine hamilton, also broadcaster and journalist danny kelly. get your kelly. but first, let's get your latest . news. latest. news. >> nana, thanks very much and good evening to you. it's just gone five 31st, i just want to bnng gone five 31st, i just want to bring you some breaking news coming to us out of kent this evening that a boy aged just 12 years old has been charged with attempted murder. that's after a teenage girl was stabbed in sittingbourne shortly before 4:00 on friday afternoon. we understand the victim was taken to hospital in london to receive treatment, though she is now in a stable condition. the boy , who a stable condition. the boy, who cannot be named for legal reasons, will we understand ,

reasons, will we understand, appearin reasons, will we understand, appear in court on monday. in other news, russia's black sea fleet is now functionally inactive. that's according to the defence secretary after a massive ukrainian missile strike on sevastopol . this was the on sevastopol. this was the moment two russian navy vessels were targeted and struck. well, security sources have told gb news that uk supplied storm shadow missiles were used in that strike and we understand a major military communications centre was also damaged. it marks the largest attack on the russian controlled port in the war so far, as tensions in the region continue to escalate . region continue to escalate. meanwhile, four suspects have been taken into russia's investigative committee headquarters following friday's terror attack. the islamic state group has claimed responsibility for the shooting, which killed

more than 130 people. the us, meanwhile, has backed that claim. but russia is continuing to suggest that ukraine was involved allegations, though kyiv has denied and the british museum was forced to close today as hundreds of pro—palestine and environmental protesters gathered outside, activists were seen waving banners and palestinian flags, shouting hands off the middle east! the group calling itself the energy embargo for palestine , say they embargo for palestine, say they will keep targeting the museum until it ends its partnership with bp. it comes after a partnership with the oil giant was extended for another decade in a deal worth some £50 million. those are the headlines more in the next half hour. in the meantime, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. com slash alerts. for now, though, it's back to . nana.

now, though, it's back to. nana. >> thank you sam. coming up, supplements sunday, where my panel and i discuss some of the stories that caught our eyes. but next, it's time for the great british debate. and i'm asking, you prefer defence asking, would you prefer defence spending

? good 7 good afternoon. i'm nana akua. it's just coming up to 38 minutes after 5:00. if you've just tuned in. where have you been ? we're live on tv, online been? we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. we are gb news the people's channel. and it's news the people's channel. and wsfime news the people's channel. and it's time for the great british debate this hour. and i'm asking, which would prefer? asking, which would you prefer? defence spending or tax cuts and use of a poll for the telegraph found that most people who voted for conservative party in for the conservative party in 2019 the government to 2019 want the government to spend defence spend more money on defence instead of cutting taxes, which is seems to be the options that are available . and of course, are available. and of course, the is hitting the tax burden is hitting a record high. chancellor has record high. the chancellor has been his been under pressure from his conservative to cut conservative colleagues to cut taxes, further and from his

taxes, even further and from his friends in constituency, friends in his own constituency, frankly, if they can't frankly, because if they can't live on 100 grand, then there's obviously but obviously something wrong. but the survey that many the survey shows that many conservative voters are more concerned funding for our concerned about funding for our armed forces, especially with the of countries the growing threat of countries like russia. only 27% said the government should cut taxes. so for the great british debate this out, i'm asking defence spending cuts, which spending or tax cuts, which would ? let's see what would you prefer? let's see what my panel make of i've got my panel make of that. i've got broadcaster author christine broadcaster and author christine hamilton, and hamilton, also broadcaster and journalist joining journalist danny kelly, joining me, christine hamilton. well, any half decent tory government would be able to do both tax cuts cuts and increased defence spending. >> but we haven't got a half decent tory government. >> we've got this lot. yeah. >> we've got this lot. yeah. >> no defence. i'm very strong on defence and i think we're one of the few european countries who actually does pay our nato commitment. and donald trump is absolutely right. why should we go on defending you? we can't just always sit under the american umbrella. we've got to pull up our socks and our european neighbours have got to pull we don't

pull up their socks. we don't even the technical even have the technical definition army, definition of an army, apparently people. we apparently is 100,000 people. we haven't got that. we've got haven't even got that. we've got 87 something. we had 87 or something. and then we had the with the aircraft the fiasco with the aircraft carriers the other day. do you remember? didn't remember? one of them didn't have the other have any planes and the other one down it had one broke down before it had left harbour. left portsmouth harbour. >> dear we to >> i mean, dear god, we need to get together. >> i mean, dear god, we need to get defence. ogether. >> i mean, dear god, we need to get defence. it'sther. >> i mean, dear god, we need to get defence. it's so r. embarrassing. >> he didn't have the crew, did they, either? >> it's first of >> it's the first duty of a government is to and. government is to defend and. okay i remember when the berlin wall came down and the cold war came to an end, etc, etc. we all thought, oh, this is wonderful, we're never going have any we're never going to have any wars look, we've got , wars again. and look, we've got, you know, world is more you know, the world is more inflamed it has been inflamed now than it has been for a very long time. so yeah, we need to pull socks up and we need to pull our socks up and spend on defence, and we spend money on defence, and we need our as need to get our army fit as well. i mean, standards well. i mean, the, the standards of the of fitness have declined in the army . some of them can't even army. some of them can't even run around a tennis court with getting of breath. getting out of breath. and they're very large they're spending, a very large amount money on diversity and amount of money on diversity and inclusion. oh, that's got to stop. so that's got to stop. exactly. rant over. exactly. sorry. rant over. >> you look at my tummy

>> why did you look at my tummy when you said they're not very fit? that was freudian. >> you did it. >> you did it. >> she did. i did as well. >> she did. i did as well. >> yes. >> ea— 5 illustrate, someone >> just to illustrate, someone who's fit a persecution who's not very fit a persecution complex, i did not just got a bit of a belly at the bottom, but the your microphone. i'm taking the mickey over a stone and a half stone and a half. >> yeah. really good. >> yeah. really good. >> okay. i'm going to disagree. jolly think we, >> okay. i'm going to disagree. j> okay. i'm going to disagree. j> okay. i'm going to disagree. j> okay. i'm going to disagree. j> okay. i'm going to disagree. j> okay. i'm going to disagree. j

of both worlds. having tax of both worlds. we're having tax cuts and we can benefit from that in our you make me laugh. you laugh. beautiful you make me laugh. beautiful faces just smiles at me, and what we do is we plough it. we take it from the green stuff. we plough it into the defence and there's so much we're spending on the green stuff, we can actually have the best of both worlds yeah, we worlds already. yeah, and we have well. we have have tax cuts as well. we have tax cuts well. tax cuts as well. >> well could also he also >> well they could also he also mentioned that defence >> well they could also he also m waste ed that defence >> well they could also he also m waste money that defence >> well they could also he also m waste money reallyat defence >> well they could also he also mwaste money really badlyznce is waste money really badly by buying and buying bad equipment and bad things that don't work. so they need wasting money on need to stop wasting money on well, to sort out need to stop wasting money on viai'id to sort out need to stop wasting money on viai'id that's to sort out need to stop wasting money on viai'id that's a to sort out need to stop wasting money on viai'id that's a lot) sort out need to stop wasting money on viai'id that's a lot ofort out need to stop wasting money on viai'id that's a lot of money out . and that's a lot of money that's well, they need to sort that's well, they need to sort that stop wasting >> we need to stop wasting money. on money. we have fortunately on on things and as for this things like hs2. and as for this nut i call it, we've just nut zero i call it, we've just discovered around we're discovered around us, we're going solar discovered around us, we're goingin solar discovered around us, we're goingin planning solar discovered around us, we're goingin planning in solar discovered around us, we're goingin planning in the solar discovered around us, we're goingin planning in the wholer park in planning in the whole country. oh, brilliant. right? bang on our doorstep. oh, and some friends of ours. i mean, you know, this is their house. and at the moment they're surrounded by fields. if this goes , they will just goes through, they will just look 100% solar panels look out 100% on solar panels because a few greedy landowners

have put land into this have put their land into this pot. well, that's because they will benefit. but the rest of us, the taxpayer, and through energy subsidies will be paying for that. >> that's right. in subsidies and subsidies, it doesn't even make sense. >> doesn't make green >> doesn't make sense. green energy happen if it was. >> we need to take the doe out of that. that groupthink . we of that. that groupthink. we need the money that's need to take the money that's going that think, going towards that group. think, christine, and we christine, we need to tax and we need to for the average need to cut tax for the average joe on the street. and also the amount billions we've given amount of billions we've given ukraine our munitions must ukraine are our munitions must be so depleted. >> they are, yes. obviously >> oh they are, yes. obviously well, well, listen, this is nothing your nothing without you and your views. our great views. let's welcome our great british is there british voice. is there opportunity on the show opportunity to be on the show and what think and tell us what they think about topics we're about the topics we're discussing? you discussing? i've got two of you this . let's start this evening. let's start with juue this evening. let's start with julie bedfordshire. julie, julie in bedfordshire. julie, what do you think? defence spending or tax cuts? yeah >> hi, nana, i don't think it's as clear cut as that. i agree with your, your panel, which was saying it's a mixture of both, if you cut from taxes and give it to defence, how are they

going to manage that money and that again comes back down to business management. we see the same problem with the nhs. they have enough money. they just don't to how spend it don't know to how spend it properly. we heard from your panel properly. we heard from your panel, richard kemp, panel, colonel richard kemp, that they they're not spending it things . they're it on the right things. they're buying, buying the wrong equipment. and i think that's what they've really got to focus on. not about robbing peter on. it's not about robbing peter to paul and trying to just to pay paul and trying to just move money it's move the money around. it's about properly , i about spending it properly, i think our defence needs to be about spending it properly, i thinpriorityafence needs to be about spending it properly, i thinpriority .ence needs to be about spending it properly, i thinpriority . wee needs to be about spending it properly, i thinpriority . we are eeds to be about spending it properly, i thinpriority . we are probably; about spending it properly, i thinpriority . we are probably on the priority. we are probably on the priority. we are probably on the verge of a third world war, sadly, and i don't think our defence is are anything that would be able to defend this country as much as we need it, but but if it was binary. so we have defence spending and tax cuts, would prioritise cuts, you would prioritise defence spending. yeah. >> okay. yeah, absolutely. defence would be prioritised for me in grimsby . me alan in grimsby. >> good afternoon alan. >> good afternoon alan. >> panel i would say i agree with your panel. >> is there should be money to do both if we spent our money

wisely instead of frittering it away on insane projects like the net zero project, we'd have the money there for defence. if push came to shove, i'd definitely go down the side of the defence spending. however, the trouble is that even they can't spend it properly. >> they waste a huge amount of money as well. >> so we have incompetent government and competent civil servants. therefore we just throw money literally into a black hole year after year. >> yeah . thanks. you too. julie >> yeah. thanks. you too. julie ford in bedfordshire and alan mcneely in grimsby. ford in bedfordshire and alan mcneely in grimsby . thanks for mcneely in grimsby. thanks for cheering us up. there's some great british voices they have a point though, don't they? this is the problem with all of it. the nhs, they spend the government spend money so badly. if own personal if it were their own personal money would spend it money then they would spend it properly. guarantee properly. i can guarantee it. don't you think? especially jeremy coming jeremy hunt, if that was coming out pocket . watlington out of his pocket. watlington coming supplement coming up supplement sunday, where and i discuss where my panel and i discuss some of the news stories that

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good evening. if you just tuned in. welcome on board. this is gb news. he's not a nicey nicey. we're live on tv , online and on we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. it's just ten minutes left of the show. but it's minutes left of the show. but wsfime minutes left of the show. but it's time now for supplement sunday, which is the part of the show where my panel and some of the news stories discuss some of the news stories that caught their joining that caught their eye. joining me author and me to discuss author and broadcaster hamilton broadcaster christine hamilton and author, broadcaster and journalist kelly. right. journalist danny kelly. right. who wants to go first? i will. okay. go then. well i mean, this is well, this is a true story, but to it's ridiculous. but to me it's ridiculous. >> selling an >> harrods are selling an ironing board, an ironing board for £4,000. 4000. yes. £4,000. i mean, admittedly, it's a work of art. it's part of a limited numbered edition. you receive a key chain made in paris from upcycled swarovski or whatever you call them, crystals. i mean, it is mind blowing £4,000 on a

laundry, but if you've got 100,000 a year and you don't live in godalming, surrey, you've probably got 4000 to spare. >> god's unbelievable at four grand for an ironing board. ironing to me is the spawn of satan. i don't own an ironing board. i don't i don't do that sort thing. just have sort of thing. i just have things that just don't things that you can just don't need exactly. danny need to dry. exactly. danny kelly, £4,000 kelly, would you buy a £4,000 ironing kelly, would you buy a £4,000 irorwell , he's got one i don't >> well, he's got one i don't i and much. >> and luckily jacket will >> and luckily this jacket will cover all the creases, no, i wouldn't buy a £4,000 ironing board. okay. right. a cat or dog, people. i'm a cat, man. i don't know how you cat. >> oh, 100. >> oh, 100. >> are a cat or dog? >> are you a cat or dog? >> are you a cat or dog? >> i don't think like either >> i don't think i like either of you're neither me or of them. you're neither me or maybe i'd a if maybe a dog. i'd have a dog if i was going have anything. was going to have anything. >> is from the >> well, this is from the liverpool echo. liverpool echo, unwanted a shining liverpool echo. liverpool echo, unwa ofed a shining liverpool echo. liverpool echo, unwa of a a shining liverpool echo. liverpool echo, unwa of a new a shining liverpool echo. liverpool echo, unwa of a new cat a shining liverpool echo. liverpool echo, unwa of a new cat cafe shining stars of a new cat cafe jackson's rescue cat cafe in hoylake found abandoned in hoylake were found abandoned in terrible conditions. there's dozens of them. basically. the idea is that they open up a cafe and there cats crawling and there are cats crawling around and snuggling on your knees and having a bite knees and you're having a bite to everything . they're

to eat and everything. they're climbing are climbing walls, and these are all really were in all moggies that really were in terrible state, very ill, full of fleas . well, they probably of fleas. well, they probably were full of fleas. they're not full of fleas now, but they would have full of fleas . would have been full of fleas. these are these are cats that have been thrown away, abandoned, they've just been abandoned, or they've just been abandoned, or they've just been a they've just, you a litter and they've just, you know, just to know, they were just about to die. being rescued. and die. they're being rescued. and the it's such the cafe in hoylake, it's such a beautiful it is. the cafe in hoylake, it's such a beaitiful it is. the cafe in hoylake, it's such a beait sounds it is. the cafe in hoylake, it's such a beait sounds bit s. the cafe in hoylake, it's such a beait sounds bit like the cafe >> it sounds a bit like the cafe on where were on fleabag, where they were guinea all guinea pigs running around all over place. remember over the place. do you remember that? if you didn't that? oh, no. if you didn't watch didn't watch fleabag. but i'm a man, i love cats. >> i love cats that were like, running long they running around long as they don't because i don't scratch leather, because i don't scratch leather, because i don't like that they've ruined my now earlier on the >> now listen, earlier on the show, i was show, i did ask you as i was standing little new standing at my little new wall, i you, what you i was asking you, what do you think my producer, alex, got £150 fine for, it was either a spitting. i think it was b, jumping the queue. or was it c , jumping the queue. or was it c, a bit of mucus from his nose like a bogey, well , you'll be like a bogey, well, you'll be you will. honestly, you will not believe it , but he you will. honestly, you will not believe it, but he was fined

£150 by ealing council for picking his nose and apparently dropping some mucus on the floor by some jobsworth enforcers. i know that's not. >> it's scarcely absolutely absurd, you know, he was just he was tapped on the shoulder by two community support officers, and he was told that picking his nose and dropping mucus on the ground counted as littering. >> now he obviously at first >> and now he obviously at first thought this was a joke and they were bored or just being made to were bored orjust being made to patrol the streets the sunday patrol the streets on the sunday morning. then it became morning. but then it became quite clear to him that they were and to were serious. and if you go to the gb website, you can the gb news website, you can actually see the fine, the fixed penalty that he received. actually see the fine, the fixed peri lty that he received. actually see the fine, the fixed peri mean, that he received. actually see the fine, the fixed peri mean, i that he received. actually see the fine, the fixed peri mean, i canat he received. actually see the fine, the fixed peri mean, i can only received. actually see the fine, the fixed peri mean, i can only assumei. actually see the fine, the fixed peri mean, i can only assume is >> i mean, i can only assume is alex telling us everything here? no, i'm being serious because what you see, a lot of people do is they block one nostril off and then exhale violently. stop it. being serious. and then exhale violently. stop it. being serious . you it. no, i'm being serious. you exhale through the exhale violently through the other nostril . other the open nostril. >> he said he didn't do that. >> he said he didn't do that. >> he said he didn't do that. >> he didn't do that. so he just picked his nose. bogie rolled it. on the floor.

it. bogie flick on the floor. >> a sunday. your hose. >> nose. >> i'm going . >> i'm going. >> i'm going. >> had enough on your fingers and then went like that. >> flick it at most? >> did he flick it at the most? i'd see video i'd asked to see the video evidence. i he did. what evidence. i think he did. what football doing. football is doing. >> didn't. he said he >> no he didn't. he said he didn't because he didn't do that because he he says not paying the fine says he's not paying the fine anyway, is he not? >> that's what says >> that's what it says here. he's to pay. he's not gonna have to pay. mcleod, intend mcleod, who does not intend paying mcleod, who does not intend paying considered paying the £150 fine, considered not details needed not handing over details needed for officers. however, after the pair became irate and pair reportedly became irate and increasingly insistent, he did hand over his name, date of birth and address to prevent the police being called . police being called. >> so i think this is watch this space and see, i think, yeah, we've got to find out what happens. >> apparently dropping mucus is an under the environment an offence under the environment protection act 1990. well, if section 87, if they could just find the mucus for you to identify, prove that you actually dropped it. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> dna it that's that's absurd, isn't it? >> i think there's more this >> i think there's more to this story alex alex, has story that alex not alex, has said didn't mind blowing. >> no. is littering? >> no. it's. is it littering? >> no. it's. is it littering? >> that's >> i'm reading the ticket that's littering it, though. >> just for dropping a bogey.

>> just for dropping a bogey. >> guilty offence . >> you're guilty of an offence. if he. well, maybe she too throws or otherwise throws down drops or otherwise deposits any litter in any place to this section. so what to which this section. so what he did, if he picked it up, somebody did pick their nose and they did that and they rolled it and then he went like that. >> that's what >> i think that's sort of what he my ear. is he did. i'm just in my ear. is that you did, alex? that what you did, alex? >> he did is what he did. >> that's what he did. >> that's what he did. >> picked his nose, rolled it >> he picked his nose, rolled it and flicked >> he picked his nose, rolled it anchu ked >> he picked his nose, rolled it anchu dol >> he picked his nose, rolled it anchu do the roll, then go >> you do the roll, then you go stop it. >> i've seen christine do >> alex, i've seen christine do that the studio. >> alex, i've seen christine do tha according the studio. >> alex, i've seen christine do thaaccording alisonstudio. on >> according to alison watson on today's asking, today's show, i've been asking, what for an what would you prefer for an ending? or tax cuts? ending? be quiet. or tax cuts? according twitter poll, according to our twitter poll, 58.6% said defence 58.6% of you said defence spending and 41.4% of you said tax cuts. and on the other question of whether earning £100,000 a year is enough or not, 80.9% of you say, yes, of course it is. and 19.1% of you say no. well, it's not a huge thank you to my panel. author and broadcaster christine hamilton and also broadcaster and journalist danny kelly for joining me today, danny. and thank you to you for your

company. and thank you to alex as well, my producer. it's his last day today. he got £150 fine, so listen, you'll never forget us. thank you so much, alex. take care. i'll see you all next. >> looks things are heating >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news. >> hello. here's your latest weather update from the met office for gb news. we saw a quieter day weather wise across the uk on sunday, but things are turning more unsettled once again during the week with again during the week ahead with wind a ridge wind and rain at times. a ridge of pressure brought of high pressure brought a quieter on sunday, but low quieter day on sunday, but low pressure already gathering pressure is already gathering towards that will towards the west and that will move week ahead to move in during the week ahead to return conditions. return to unsettled conditions. wind and already arriving wind and rain already arriving across and southwest of across the west and southwest of the uk for the overnight period, some that rain turning some of that rain turning quite heavy places , whereas towards some of that rain turning quite hea north 3laces , whereas towards some of that rain turning quite hea north andes , whereas towards some of that rain turning quite hea north and east'hereas towards some of that rain turning quite hea north and east it'szas towards some of that rain turning quite hea north and east it's clearer. rds the north and east it's clearer. just 1 or 2 showers lingering and of frost and certainly a touch of frost possible north and east possible in the north and east by hours of monday by the early hours of monday morning. the morning. whereas out towards the west southwest those west and southwest those temperatures will start to climb. itself ,

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