t0 national security. two individuals and one to national security. two individuals and one company facing sanctions after the data of 40 million britons was leaked i >> -- >> yes, the government is using a tough rhetoric on beijing at last, but there are plenty of mps who would like them to go much, much further. find out more with me very soon. >> but critics, including conservative mp sir iain duncan smith, say the sanctions just don't go far enough. >> i welcome these two sanctions from the government. it is a little bit this statement, like an elephant giving birth to mouse. >> this morning, the education secretary joins us to announce tens of thousands of new school spaces for children with special needs. >> and in the sport this morning, huge game for wales tonight in cardiff. if they beat poland they make it to the euros

. england play belgium as scotland take on northern ireland in friendlies and andy murray's gone and ruptured his talofibular ligament, which, by the way, is his ankle and could now struggle to wimbledon now struggle to get to wimbledon for . for the final time. >> this week's unsettled theme continues today. most of us will see some rain at some point. there will also be a bit of hill snow over the high ground of scotland. have more details scotland. i'll have more details shortly. >> china hitting the news today in the front pages of many of the newspapers, it could be declared a national security threat after the deputy prime minister, oliver dowden, accused it of . i don't know what that it of. i don't know what that means. suddenly the words just change in front of my eyes. what did that mean, anyway? nobody seems to like it. here's what dowden had to say. >> we want now to be as open as possible with the house and with the british public, because part of our defence is calling out

this behaviour. this is the latest in a clear pattern of hostile activity originating in china, including the targeting of democratic institutions and parliamentarians in the united kingdom and beyond . kingdom and beyond. >> well, lord cameron released a statement on x saying this last night. >> attacks on our democracy are unacceptable. yet that is what organisations backed by china have done today. we are publicly calling them out and we've taken action. we've summoned the chinese ambassador and we are putting sanctions, travel bans and asset freezes on the individuals and the group responsible . responsible. >> fascinating, so cameron speaksin >> fascinating, so cameron speaks in such a way that we need subtitles under his name there, because on social media, when people post things on if

they're on a train or in public, they're on a train or in public, they can just watch the subtitles. >> yeah. without having the sound on. i do that quite a lot. >> do they do it with us? >> do they do it with us? >> probably, yeah, they do. i think on some of the, instagram grabs they do of our chats in the morning. >> let's, let's go to our political correspondent olivia utley so is this utley on this one. so is this china or china's mates or where's all this emanating from and how serious is it? >> well, it's pretty serious. the chinese government had access to data of about 40 million uk voters for over a year between august 2021 and when the breach was discovered in october 2022. what's more , in october 2022. what's more, there was a cyber tracking software found linked to 43 different parliamentary email accounts, including the accounts of a number of hawkish china sceptic mps. so essentially, china was spying on a group of mps now the government is

sounding like they're going to be quite tough on this. they've talked about sanctions for china as a result of this. they said that it as a result of this. they said thatitis as a result of this. they said that it is unacceptable. they said that it amounts to malicious behaviour, but there are plenty of mps, including sir iain duncan smith, former leader of the party, who we heard from just then who say that it's just not enough. these mps have been warning about the risk from china for a long time now, and they say that the government must go much, much further. one thing that they're asking the government to do is to officially designate china as a threat. now, that's something that so far the uk government has held off doing. it's something that actually liz truss said that she would like to see done if she were made pm, but of course she never got the chance in her six weeks in office. if china were officially labelled a threat by the government of the united kingdom, it would obviously hugely interfere with our trade with china and could make things

politically very, very difficult. but there are plenty of conservative mps, including actually robert jenrick , the actually robert jenrick, the former immigration minister and close friend of rishi sunak , who close friend of rishi sunak, who thinks that the time has come to make that decision . in the make that decision. in the golden era of relationships between the uk and china, something that george george osborne and david cameron talked a lot about in those coalition years has very much come to an end . end. >> cabinet splits, though not necessarily rishi sunak forte. and so far he has resisted calls for a very long time to declare china a threat. he's preferred to use this very strange phrase of epoch defining challenge do you think he's going to finally toughen up his language, even if he's not going to toughen up the sanctions , he might decide that sanctions, he might decide that now is the moment to toughen up the language, because of course, that be easier than that would be easier than toughening up the sanctions on china. >> we know that rishi sunak is an in an incredibly precarious

situation at the moment. it's thought that there are up to about 30 conservative mps who might have sent in a letter of no confidence in him to graham brady, he will be worried that these china hawks on the backbenches and some in the cabinet as well, they're an organised group and they could pose him a lot of difficulties in less . he shows that he is in less. he shows that he is listening to what they're saying. it could be that he decides now that the moment has come to declare china a threat officially, even if he doesn't back up that language with actions, would that be enough for this group of conservative mps? it's not clear, but it would be a big step in the right direction. >> okay. thank you very much, olivia. >> mps have been urged to consider compensation for the women affected by state pension changes in an open letter to the house of commons leader penny mordaunt, that's after a petition calling for compensation was signed by more than 30,000 people. former chair of the waspi campaign group,

hilary simpson, joins us now. hilary simpson, joins us now. hilary good morning to you. how bad are things, hilary and do you think people are listening to you , well, judging by the to you, well, judging by the discussion in parliament yesterday, actually, i'd say everybody is listening to us, except possibly the minister for work and pensions. we have an enormous groundswell of support from from backbenchers and from, people generally . that's been my people generally. that's been my experience over the last few days, but it's quite difficult to cut through to the government on this issue at the moment. >> it's been a long running battle. just bring us up to date on your own story. when you realised that you had been effectively short changed and not made aware of those changes, and you know how hopeful you are that finally, as you say, there seems to be this momentum that there might be some compensation for you, well, my story is

pretty typical. it's not particularly exciting. i was working in local government. it was at the time of the financial crash, around 2008 nine. local government was entering a period of austerity, much like it is at the moment. and lots of us working in local government were offered early retirement packages , i looked at what i was packages, i looked at what i was offered and thought it was quite a good deal. i was 55 at the time and assumed because i'd never been notified otherwise, that i would get my state pension from 60. so in the spirit of good financial planning, i looked at the lump sum i would get. i made it for last the five years, as it were, until i would get my state pension at 60. it was only after i'd signed the deal that i found out that i wouldn't actually get that state pension until 63, and then of course, there was a second wave of changes which

accelerated it very quickly, with virtually no notice from 63 to. i eventually got mine at 65.5. as i said, not an exciting story, but absolutely typical of the way that the changes were communicated in such a way that nobody had any opportunity to plan or to make proper preparations. >> well, you you say, not an exciting story, but i would have thought a frightening story to go two and a half years without any, recompense, you know, without money sitting there in the bank for you to, to go along. how did you get through those? yeah. how did you get through those couple of years ? through those couple of years? >> well, the money that i had expected to sort of dole out and make last for five years ended up , covering ten and a half up, covering ten and a half years . so, i up, covering ten and a half years. so, i had a up, covering ten and a half years . so, i had a workplace years. so, i had a workplace pension as well, but the top up was considerably diluted , let's was considerably diluted, let's put it that way, there are a lot

of people who've had it a lot worse than me, i was lucky enough to have a workplace pension that was reasonably generous. but of course , a lot generous. but of course, a lot of women, for all kinds of reasons. didn't have that. and we all know that women get a raw deal from workplace pensions anyway, many of them have spent anyway, many of them have spent a high proportion of their time in work working part time , while in work working part time, while they've got small children or other caring responsibilities, at the time when most of us entered the workforce, we didn't always have access to workplace pensions. i mean, you know, that was , a relatively recent was, a relatively recent innovation. so >> well, the parliamentary and health service ombudsman took what he described as rare but necessary action to intervene in actually ask parliament to debate and to vote on how these pension changes were communicated . did do you think communicated. did do you think you will see a decent chunk of

compensation, and what sort of figure have you got in mind? >> well, there are two figures being bandied about at the moment. the one the ombudsman is recommending is what he calls level four, which ranges from £1,000 to just under £3,000, what was actually recommended by a cross—party group of mps, the all party political group on this issue was what the ombudsman calls level six. and, level six is £10,000 or more. and the two main waspi campaign groups of which i'm one chair of one, would like to see that that higher level of £10,000 plus. >> to you, i really hope that you manage to get the compensation you quite clearly deserve and keep us posted on your campaign. and thanks very

much for telling us your story. this morning. >> but, you know, hilary, a lot of people, they they won't this won't affect them. they're not interested in you because they're not your age. and this hasn't happened to them. and when affect them, when when it does affect them, when they to certain age, what they get to a certain age, what age you to be before you age have you to be before you get your pension? now, as a woman, i think it's gone up woman, 67, i think it's gone up to right ? to now right? >> 67 again. of course, for >> 67 rise again. of course, for everybody . i >> 67 rise again. of course, for everybody. i mean, men and women now do get the same pension age . now do get the same pension age. >> but you're a you're a former civil servant. i mean, you must know the mood. whatever is going on in departments and whatever. this is all part of what i would put it as theft. and this is theft. if someone if someone's gone up to your purse and taken this money out, money that you were relying on, and it's the same for all the hundreds of thousands of people who are experiencing retrospective tax, which a lot of people don't care about. loan charge or ir35 until it hits them. and that is the

thing. what is going on? what is the mood in government at the minute for clawing back money? we hear about them spending money, but what about the secretive way instigated by people like george osborne of getting money back ? getting money back? >> i thought someone would mention george osborne. he came up in parliament yesterday with his famous quote about raising women's state pension age being the easiest money that his government had ever made. and that, quote will haunt him forever more. i'm fairly sure of that , what forever more. i'm fairly sure of that, what worries me, forever more. i'm fairly sure of that , what worries me, actually, that, what worries me, actually, is the government's poor record on implementing compensation . on implementing compensation. because if you look at what's happened to the post office honzon happened to the post office horizon people, if you look at what's happened to the contaminated blood victims, to the windrush victims, it's not a good story . the equitable life good story. the equitable life victims in all those groups, there are still people waiting for comp sensation that they've

been, promised . and, to be been, promised. and, to be honest, that's the bit that worries me that even if a compensation package is agreed, over 100 waspi women are dying every day while this drags on. so, you know, time is of the essence , as they say. essence, as they say. >> well, hilary, good luck to you, you have our interest and support in in all of this. well, you've got mine. anyway, having been a victim of theft from the inland revenue, as well, but, it's all happening out there. hilary. story. your views on it. you're very welcome to let us know this morning . as i say, you know this morning. as i say, you won't really care until it affects you . thank you very much affects you. thank you very much indeed, hilary simpson. people got more imagination than that. >> i can see how how bad that is without having been affected myself and charity age uk are campaigning to ensure elderly people who don't use the internet are not left behind in the digital age when it comes to

banking, medical care and paying bills . bills. >> gb news yorkshire and humber reported on. o'reilly has been investigated offline and overlooked at that's what age uk say. >> millions of british pensioners are. why? because they cannot or won't access the internet. it's leading to digital exclusion. so the charity's campaigning for public services like banks, utilities and even the nhs to maintain a more human approach. >> everything's online. people assume you've got a smartphone with a with a mobile number and an email, and without that, you don't exist in this world anymore. we've got to try and get the government to see that it's so important to make people feel that they belong, because there's a feeling that the older generation just feel that they've forgotten they're in the way. and we already know that anyway. it'sjust way. and we already know that anyway. it's just another reason for them to feel that they're not wanted. they'll just accept it and they'll say, well, that's

it and they'll say, well, that's it , i do it anymore it and they'll say, well, that's it, i do it anymore and it, i can't do it anymore and that's it. whereas other people would and would be really kicking and screaming. so need to be the screaming. so we need to be the voice for people. voice for older people. >> despite technology >> despite digital technology playing in playing an increasing role in our lives , around 1 5 over 65 our lives, around 1 in 5 over 65 in uk don't use the in the uk don't use the internet. thorneycroft centre in pontefract, west yorkshire, provides a space for this age group to socialise and get help to go online. >> i'm not quite good with mobiles so when you mention anything about online i ain't a clue what you're talking about. >> your brain's not up to all these fancy things and not only that, when you're online, you're getting these people you have to be very careful in case you scammed. they're not considered old people who feel left behind . old people who feel left behind. ihave old people who feel left behind. i have to ask my grandson, who's 14 year old, to do things for me. they expect you to know what you're doing and or they want to do updates as you see what the

place is. is it for the closure of thousands of banks is also detrimental to the older generation. >> a lot of our members watcombe they tend to use cash and they don't like to use bank cards. i think a lot of it's trust or the lack of knowledge. they don't understand how it works. i think they're very vulnerable as well. with online, it's really important that they're aware how to and how to use it safely. >> so in an online era, it's still for many to have still crucial for many to have an offline option. anna riley gb news okay, other stories making the news. >> this morning, the un security council is calling for an immediate ceasefire in gaza for the first time since the war began. the first time since the war began . the us abstained from the began. the us abstained from the vote in a move that signals weakening relations with israel. following the news, israel was quick to cancel a visit to washington . it comes as the uk washington. it comes as the uk has delivered its first aid package to palestinians since the war broke out.

>> donald trump will face trial next month in the first ever criminal trial of a former or current us president, in a win for mr trump, he was granted a ten day extension to pay his fine, which was also reduced from £360 million to 140. republicans overseas spokesperson jennifer ewing spoken to gb news on the matter with each one. >> trump's numbers went up right. so people do not care about this. they know that donald trump, especially in this case, has been one of the most well known real estate moguls in new york city for half a century, nothing like this has ever been brought up. he ran for president as we know. nothing like it was brought up during his presidency. and so now when he decides to run again, this is coming out . coming out. >> veterans minister johnny mercer has been given ten days to name the whistleblowers who informed him about alleged murders by the sas in afghanistan or face being

jailed. the chairman of the afghanistan inquiry, sir charles haddon—cave, told mr mercer his decision to refuse to answer questions at a public inquiry were disappointing, surprising and completely unacceptable. >> a convoy of over 100 tractors made its way through westminster on monday in protest of what saved british farming, say is a lack of support for uk food production. the action follows months of protests from eu farmers amid the growing threat of food security facing europe . of food security facing europe. >> well, so here we are on tuesday. and how would you, if you were licking your finger and put it in your car window? how would you? >> it was mild, mildest art than the day before. >> it was about nine degrees as i got in the car. so it's brighter. is it is it getting brighter? >> summer? is it coming? hence the yellow? yes. i'm little the yellow? yes. i'm a little easter morning. easter chick this morning. >> of hold back in the

>> i sort of hold back in the morning before coming of morning before coming instead of coming normal coming in my normal 3 am, i just sometimes hold back to see the coming up the sky at the sun coming up or the sky at least brightening . cracking. and least brightening. cracking. and it's doing that. certainly. by what? certainly by 5:00. it's doing that anyway. >> many early birds though >> so many early birds though that join us in the morning. whether you're on a night shift like do. sort of kind of too, like we do. sort of kind of too, don't we, whether you're getting up early to go to work, tell us what you're doing, why you're up at these crazy times as well, looking the sky when looking at the sky like when i come in morning, come into work in the morning, i look and see all these cars look and i see all these cars around london, where are they going? what they doing up to? >> no good. that's what i think most of the time. >> alex burkill, here he is with the weather forecast. >> outlook with boxt >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar for sponsors of weather on gb news. >> morning. here's your latest gb news weather update brought to you by the met office. there will be some dry weather around today, but also a swathe of rain

pushing its way northwards. and this morning we do have some outbreaks of showery rain across parts scotland, bit of parts of scotland, with a bit of sleet or over the higher sleet or snow over the higher ground. the brightest weather this be across this morning will be across parts of northern england, the midlands into anglia, midlands and into east anglia, but turn but here it is going to turn cloudier go through the cloudier as we go through the day, bit rain pushing day, with a bit of rain pushing in as this swathe of rain across southern gradually makes southern parts gradually makes its way northwards as we go through also, some through the day. also, some outbreaks across parts outbreaks of rain across parts of ireland, and of northern ireland, and temperatures us will of northern ireland, and teraroundres us will of northern ireland, and ter around or us will of northern ireland, and teraround or a us will of northern ireland, and teraround or a little us will of northern ireland, and teraround or a little bit us will of northern ireland, and teraround or a little bit belowill be around or a little bit below average the time of year, average for the time of year, especially across parts of scotland. a chilly feel scotland. a bit of a chilly feel here as we go through the end of the day. the wet weather across much will feed much of england will feed further northwards, so a pretty wet to day across wet end to the day across northern england and then a wet night much of scotland. night for much of scotland. and as the high as that rain hits the high ground the highlands, ground over the highlands, the grampians, to see grampians, we are likely to see some further hill snow. something bit clearer something a bit clearer following in behind. so temperatures taking a bit of a dip, places falling to low dip, many places falling to low to figures but quite to mid single figures but quite a few places up to a few places waking up to a bright start on wednesday, particularly across central parts of england. however,

towards western areas, southwestern here we will southwestern parts here we will have some heavy blustery showers, could have a bit of thunder mixed in with these as they gradually their way they gradually make their way northeastward. temperatures again for the again around average for the time perhaps a little time of year, perhaps a little bit below, but it is going to be a touch milder than today for many of albeit quite many of us, albeit quite blustery times. by by that blustery at times. by by that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news news. >> we'll give you a warm feeling inside and outside now with our spnng inside and outside now with our spring giveaway competition, and time is running out as we approach friday when it it ends. will it ends for this month? >> yes. and there's lots up for grabs this time. shopping, gadgets , a shopping spree, and gadgets, a shopping spree, and of course lots of cash here are all the details of how you can get involved. >> it's the final week to see how you could win big. you could win an amazing £12,345 in tax free cash that you could spend

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fantastic evening? had you? oh yeah. yeah, yeah. did you find your dogs? ni you know what? it's funny you should that. it's funny you should say that. yes, was looking at yes, because i was looking at nelly carefully and did the nelly very carefully and did the same when we were same with dudley when we were out for a walk, because i was thinking, where's the ni? where's leg? and yes, i did where's the leg? and yes, i did spot it, it's still not the spot it, but it's still not the ni in the old style of knee or elbow. and i were talking yesterday. >> my dog gets injection in >> my dog gets an injection in her knee, but he says she her front knee, but he says she hasn't got a knee. it's an elbow. so because at elbow. so it's because it's at their elbow. so it's because it's at the yeah, because the legs. >> yeah, because the front legs. >> yeah, because the front legs. >> the front one and >> well the front one and i followed that up because they've got the little bit there with the poor ankle. and then that, that's well but they're, they're more hands though that's well but they're, they're more they. hands though that's well but they're, they're more they. they're ds though that's well but they're, they're more they. they're not hough that's well but they're, they're more they. they're not like|h aren't they. they're not like i can't them. as for can't really see them. as for legs, like an stroke legs, it's like an arm stroke leg, the front one, which is a bit more. i'm really making him more a fool of myself. and more of a fool of myself. and i even yesterday. >> okay. job you're not the vet. >> and i'll be checked my ankle here and checked my knee. i'll be new series of be starring in the new series of supervet, way, next week. supervet, by the way, next week. >> okay, let's do some sport, huge game for taking on

huge game for wales taking on poland. win, get to poland. if they win, they get to the england play , they're the euros. england play, they're playing tonight. playing belgium tonight. and andy is all over andy murray's ankle is all over the place. we're a little worried about that. his knees fine. >> okay.

break. >> see, england are playing at a friendly tonight. and i'm just talking to paul about it here. and they're coming out in the second half without any names on the their shirts. and the back of their shirts. and all of this is about the sentiment of dementia or alzheimer's, which, fine. but every social issue or medical issue in the world is not my problem as a football supporter. go away. leave us alone. let us enjoy the game. stop ramming social messages down our throats. it's very interesting you say that you know what i'm, i'm going to, i'm going to sit on the fence with this because i think it's really important. >> i think dementia is something that people should be talking

about. and i know what you're saying, i know what you're saying. but i also think it's quite a clever way of doing it. saying. but i also think it's quiti a clever way of doing it. saying. but i also think it's quiti thinkler way of doing it. saying. but i also think it's quiti think the vay of doing it. saying. but i also think it's quiti think the ideaf doing it. saying. but i also think it's quiti think the ideaf cthat it. saying. but i also think it's quiti think the ideaf cthat you but i think the idea is that you see the names in the first half as well. it helps everybody. so then can who everybody then you can learn who everybody is. they're all is. i mean, they're all household anyway, then household names anyway, but then the are taken off their the names are taken off their shirts, and that is because it's because and people because of memory and people forget, that's what forget, okay. and that's what it's all about. >> when commentators had >> that's when commentators had to commentators, wasn't it? to be commentators, wasn't it? >> absolutely. yeah. >> oh, absolutely. yeah. >> oh, absolutely. yeah. >> that's when >> that's when you'd that's when you'd know. you'd really have to know. i mean i knew knew martin peters mean i knew i knew martin peters very and i remember it was very well, and i remember it was one the saddest things i ever one of the saddest things i ever remember was talking to martin. and remember he'd start and i remember he'd start repeating himself. and this is when were stuff when we were doing stuff at spurs. repeat, spurs. and he'd repeat, and then we'd is martin then we'd think, is martin okay? then i didn't see him for quite a long time, and haven't told long time, and i haven't told anybody and he came back anybody this. and he came back to tottenham and he was there for ham game. and this is for a west ham game. and this is when dementia had really when dementia was had really started kicking in with, with paul i well paul martin. and i said, well how are you, how are you doing? and said think there's and he said people think there's something with me. yeah.

something wrong with me. yeah. and said, well, really? he and i said, well, really? he said, they're stopping and i said, well, really? he saicworking. they're stopping and i said, well, really? he saicworking. theery're stopping and i said, well, really? he saicworking. they think stopping me working. they think it's something me. there's something wrong with me. there's nothing i'm nothing wrong with me. i'm absolutely fine. but we knew very there was something. very well there was something. it it was taking hold and of it was it was taking hold and of course, that ended taking his course, that ended up taking his life. happened to so life. and it's happened to so many so i think many footballers. so i think it's that doing it it's good that they're doing it with i see what you're with football. i see what you're saying. >> football will be >> i think football will be better off saying there is a distinct link or we're carrying out more to out more and more studies to find there is a link find out if there is a link between heading a football and getting dementia. i agree, i think that be better, but think that will be better, but what the main problem though think that will be better, but whattaking main problem though think that will be better, but whattaking mai problemn though think that will be better, but whattaking maiproblem isthough with taking the problem is because wouldn't them? with taking the problem is bec.but�* wouldn't them? with taking the problem is bec.but no, wouldn't them? with taking the problem is bec.but no, it's»uldn't them? with taking the problem is bec.but no, it's just|'t them? with taking the problem is bec.but no, it's just look, them? with taking the problem is bec.but no, it's just look, if1em? no, but no, it's just look, if it's not this, i have to have a two minute silence on saturday or something else and i think, go away, leave alone, me go away, leave me alone, give me lots football. my friend? >> biggest game winners tonight. yeah, huge. yeah, this is huge. >> good are poland? >> how good are poland? >> how good are poland? >> incidentally, are >> incidentally, poland are okay. >> they m- okay. >> they they didn't >> they didn't they didn't qualify the euros. obviously qualify for the euros. obviously this reason they're in this is the reason they're in the the mean the way the play offs. the mean the way they play off they got into the play off was through the door, through through the back door, through how nations how they did in the nations league. so they i mean it was

albania got through ahead of them and who else there them before and who else there was well. was the czech republic as well. robert is the big robert lewandowski is the big star is great goal star which is the great goal scorer. you know, one of the greatest goal scorers there's ever playing for poland. ever been playing for poland. but on a bit. now but he is knocking on a bit. now 68 years old, he's going to be playing for poland. so is playing for poland. so he is knocking around knocking on. he's been around for but obviously very for a while but obviously very dangerous. whereas wales are very gareth bale very obviously post gareth bale now. very young side. now. they're a very young side. so i've come on, i think, i think would be okay. the think wales would be okay. the fact cardiff fact that it's in cardiff i think really important and if think is really important and if they for them i think they really go for them i think cardiff will get through. was cardiff will get through. i was a bit worried the other day a bit more worried the other day and i thought little more and and i thought a little more and i think, think going to i think, i think it's going to be but i really think be close, but i really think wales would it's a big, wales would do it. it's a big, huge game, but if they win there in the which is terrific. in the euros, which is terrific. >> andy murray has huge ankle. >> andy murray has a huge ankle. what's it. what's wrong with it. >> oh goodness me. yeah. do you remember that remember we looked at that yesterday. the yesterday. i think we've got the footage so we can see footage again just so we can see how was. andy murray how bad it was. so andy murray playing the miami open playing in the miami open yesterday, the yesterday, tomas machac of the czech so there are. czech republic. so there we are. it's serving now. don't know it's serving now. i don't know whether twist.

whether we could see the twist. there there's my there we are. there's oh my goodness, in all sorts of goodness, i'm in all sorts of pain. thinking, well it pain. we were thinking, well it looks then looks terrible. but then he continued so i think, continued to play on so i think, well, it wasn't bad. well, maybe it wasn't too bad. and he tore two and it turned out he tore two ligaments in his ankle, which is a rupture the a full rupture of the talofibular ligament, which i can for you to say, can tell you is for you to say, have done it? have you done it? >> a dog of one of those. >> a dog dog has two of those. >> a dog dog has two of those. >> it's a little ring around that area, but it looks like 12 weeks out. >> so i've been trying the >> so i've been trying to do the math the math. i math right. do the math. so i hate when say, do the math. >> yeah, that's american. >> yeah, that's american. >> try and do the math. and it looks the french open, looks like the french open, which which is at of which which is at the end of may, he should before may, he should be before wimbledon. there and before wimbledon. there and before w usually n. wimbledon. there and before w usually the worst scenario. is usually the worst scenario. >> getting your ankle back. >> just getting your ankle back. you've your you've then got to get your fitness of course. >> yeah. >> yeah. so >> yeah. so i >> yeah. so i don't >> yeah. so i don't know >> yeah. so i don't know now wimbledon. it murray. >> oh isn't it andy murray. >> oh isn't it andy murray. >> machine. could >> the man's a machine. he could probably okay worrying , but probably be okay worrying, but as okay, that's the as long as he's okay, that's the main wimbledon and then main thing. wimbledon and then the olympics. and he's only said he'll the olympics he'll only play in the olympics if thinks can win a medal. if he thinks he can win a medal. >> okay. >> okay. >> right, my friend. see you

again . 7:20. yeah. and we'll again. 7:20. yeah. and we'll talk about, there's a lot of controversy with the england football kit that they're wearing at the moment. germany germans now as well. yeah. so we'll talk about that next time round . thank you very much indeed. >> stay with us. coming up. we're going to be taking a look at what's making the news this morning. we've got alex armstrong muldoon armstrong and claire muldoon for that. after we that. and then after that we have education secretary. that. and then after that we havitalkinqucation secretary. that. and then after that we havitalkinqucatio specialtary. i'm talking about special education tuned. education needs. so stay tuned. our way.

>> and claire milton and alex armstrong nine. they're going through stories that are getting you all talking today. and the thing guys , that is getting thing guys, that is getting everybody talking. certainly getting talking getting the newspapers talking is what is china up to a national security threat or not? uk and the us seem to think so, claire. >> well, it definitely, definitely is. i mean, since, back in the day when the when

china introduced huawei into the country and they were building up and moving in all the infrastructure of the tech infrastructure of the tech infrastructure into the country, and knew that there and everyone knew that there would be a cyber attack or something to do with that. and everyone was like, oh, no , it'll everyone was like, oh, no, it'll be fine, it'll be fine. and theresa may was the one that said, no, we're going to halt this. we're going to stop this and look what's happened, oliver dowden yesterday addressed the commons and he said that we are at grave risk of some attacks coming and i think he's right. he really is. but we've got this right. >> if you don't do business with china, who are you going to do business with? that's the north korea. >> that's the thing, eamonn. our business was worth 100 and £0.9 billion to the coffers of this country in the last 12 months. it's a major trade trader for export and import for us, our fifth largest partner , you know, fifth largest partner, you know, and all the infrastructure that they've brought in to the

country in terms of all the cash they've brought in for the property they've brought in. yep. >> i mean, you everyone who watches this show, if you've ever seen me on here, knows i'm not huge fan of david cameron. not a huge fan of david cameron. and mean, this is the and that's i mean, this is the man rounds man out doing the rounds today about is the about china and cameron is the guy that was i mean, while he was prime minister cosied up to china hugely brought the president to the pub , the pints. president to the pub, the pints. the pints in era 2.2 billion worth of chinese investment, buying up london properties . and buying up london properties. and that's just i mean it's the tip of the iceberg. it goes down. i mean, he's also helped drum up foreign investment for china and their indo—pacific railway. you know, they're know, the chinese belt. they're building , which there's a lot of building, which there's a lot of criticism of. so i do feel it's a little difficult to stomach heanng a little difficult to stomach hearing it from cameron today. seeing is that if he's saying now they're threat, well, now they're a threat, well, you're guy that invited them you're the guy that invited them in door and you in the front door here and you welcomed open arms. so welcomed them with open arms. so i whether he's the i don't know whether he's the man be delivering this man to be delivering this message. frankly >> well, on that, i mean, >> well, just on that, i mean, there questions about there are questions about delivering this message. you know, the 1920, 20

know, he addressed the 1920, 20 1922 committee of tory mps last night. but nothing for the lib dems or for labour. and they were really , really annoyed were really, really annoyed about this. they said given this is unprecedented, saying is unprecedented, you're saying this is a national security risk and not being briefed by and we're not being briefed by the secretary? yeah, exactly. >> he's you know, his silence is deafening, you know, and but the other thing that i'm concerned aboutisif other thing that i'm concerned about is if you go to china , you about is if you go to china, you cannot use whatsapp, you can't use any of the normal apps that we have. use any of the normal apps that we you're under their control control. >> right? right. but their tiktok so, so popular. tiktok app is so, so popular. there's massive amounts of information that's been given to children on tiktok as a as mascot. >> right. so you're sitting here as a political commentator today and you're speaking out against the chinese. yes. now, have you had a holiday planned to china , had a holiday planned to china, to beijing or whatever it is? would you not be worried that somebody at an airport is going to your name? of course . yeah. >> well, i went through hong kong recently, and i don't know whether i've always been singing

china's praises, but but at the same critical of this same time, i'm critical of this government as much as i am any other government, because they're all doing their they're all are all doing their own thing. right? own different thing. right? but at of day, i, the at the end of the day, i, the china is a big threat in terms of their dominance the world. of their dominance in the world. and west should be worried and the west should be worried about to about that. if we want to maintain supremacy over maintain western supremacy over the have the world, which we do have through trading power, china through our trading power, china is middle class, are is quickly middle class, are quickly becoming the new consumers, they're buying and buying and buying. so you're seeing the shift from china manufacturing to india now. and so the chinese middle class are becoming the new consumers. and there's a billion of them, billions of them, you know, so a really powerful up and coming country that we maybe underestimated long underestimated for a very long time. it's very interesting. >> let's talk about trump. have we underestimated him? he's managed to have his bond reduced and bit longer to try and find and a bit longer to try and find this money, and is due to face trial for the first time. a former president facing a criminal trial next week. he's on the front of a lot of the papers. i'm just looking across consume on guardian on

consume on the guardian and on the yes, yes . the ft. alex. yes, yes. >> so, i mean, there's a lot going on. there's a lot going on here, obviously there's two here, so obviously there's two things first of all, he things to say. first of all, he was in trial yesterday for a slightly different reason . so he slightly different reason. so he was in about this hush money, i think it was with stormy daniels, he's saying he will daniels, so he's saying he will testify . so that will be rather testify. so that will be rather explosive because he said he's done nothing wrong, but at the same time, he also had good same time, he also had some good news yesterday his , you news yesterday that his, you know, half £1 billion bond that was being asked to be paid, which is a lot of money, which, you know, when they when people like trump say they've got all these is not these billions, this is not liquid cash. is not just liquid cash. this is not just money their bank. this in money in their bank. this is in investments in property, all these and these different things. and he's saying, have money these different things. and he's sa'hand. have money these different things. and he's sa'hand. that'sfe money these different things. and he's sa'hand. that's been money these different things. and he's sa'hand. that's been dropped to hand. so that's been dropped to hand. so that's been dropped to 1.75 million. it's quite a big so it's quite a big big drop. so it's quite a big victory for him. so i'm sure he'll be able to. >> according to the >> apparently according to the new times, he'd approached new york times, he'd approached 30 try and 30 bond companies to try and provide bail and was provide the bail and no one was was up him. was stumping up for him. >> mean, i don't know if i >> i mean, i don't know if i blame them, really, because that's money to

that's quite a lot of money to potentially lose in a potentially lose in such a tumultuous time for him. >> going to do your >> are you not going to do your trump personation? well, trump in personation? well, i don't know. >> think they're all losers. >> i think they're all losers. i don't i think this is don't know, i think this is against don't know, i think this is agathat's very good. i'm gonna go. >> i'm never gonna live that one down think they're all losers. >> i thought the tweet >> i thought the biden tweet yesterday was quite funny as well, the biden well, actually, when the biden camp re tweeted up something that, had said about the that, trump had said about the golf course, and he'd won this and he'd won that and in the biden tweet was congratulations, donald. >> well done . >> well done. >> well done. >> yeah, great achievement giving yourself a medal for getting an award from your own golf course to celebrate. >> but yeah, it's definitely a hole in one if you're under 30. >> claire, or around about 30, you're more likely than any other age sector, in the country to earn more than £1 million. >> isn't that amazing ? >> isn't that amazing? >> isn't that amazing? >> wish i was under 30. >> wish i was under 30. >> same. but no, you'll hear about how all these young people. life's so tough for them. and >> oh, i know, and you can't. you can't sack them. you can't say boo to a goose . and you know

say boo to a goose. and you know the, you know the open up. >> you earn million. >> you can't earn £1 million. yeah. you open up making all their money. >> it tech is tech. >> is it tech is tech. >> the ones that they're >> but the ones that they're quoting here are musicians like dua i'm ex member of dua lipa. and i'm ex member of one direction who are now no direct horan. exactly. >> it is niall horan. >> it is niall horan. >> yeah. and the footballers , >> yeah. and the footballers, the footballers, the and all the footballers was the ireland when i >> £375,000 a week. yeah, yeah i mean this is extra. >> i mean footballers have always earned a lot of money. >> just the average salary in the premier league is the average average salary. >> what is the average salary? >> what is the average salary? >> £3.6 million a year. what yeah that's for average. crazy. yeah. >> and half of them can't even kick a ball into a goal. >> this this this is coming from the rise of things like tiktok and social media being so popular with young people. so now these celebrities are now all these celebrities are becoming you're becoming younger and you're seeing these influencers on seeing all these influencers on youtube. all in youtube. i mean, they're all in their 20s, late, you know, their early 20s, late, you know, teenagers sometimes, but it's not real. >> alex. >> alex. >> it's real to the young

people. they couldn't. >> could. i'll tell you >> they could. i'll tell you what, operate an what, they could not operate an alarm, of bed alarm, get themselves out of bed to a bus and go to a job, to get on a bus and go to a job, i don't agree. >> oh my goodness me, i agree with you talking about operating things and being older. >> claire, there's a new invention. well, it's not new if you if you're sort of if you've got scheduled doctor's appointments and things. but anyway, you can go out there and you can get a battery free implant which attaches to your bladder to see how sensitive your bladder is. so basically, what it does is when you wake up and you think, oh, i think i want to go the way you do all morning or think i want to go, or do want to go or do or do i generally do need to go. >> it will tell you if you really do need to go or not. right? >> is it tricking me? >> is it tricking me? >> if you're at the tipping point, oh, need that bed time point, oh, i need that bed time because i'm bed and i'm because i'm in bed and i'm scrolling phone just scrolling on my phone just before turn the lights out, before i turn the lights out, and i always to have a and then i always have to have a just just case. just in case, just in case. >> to be woken up >> i don't want to be woken up in night, but i just

in the night, but am i just tricking myself? so i need a bladder implant. >> a bladder implant. >> you need a bladder implant. lovely. yeah, and apparently >> you need a bladder implant. lovithe yeah, and apparently >> you need a bladder implant. lovithe inah, and apparently >> you need a bladder implant. lovithe in thing,i apparently >> you need a bladder implant. lovithe in thing, and)arently >> you need a bladder implant. lovithe in thing, and it'sntly >> you need a bladder implant. lovithe in thing, and it's the it's the in thing, and it's the in and you in thing in america. and you can get multiple sensors, get multiple multiple sensors, sensor , multiple sensors . sensor, multiple sensors. >> summers right now. right. >> summers right now. right. >> so you're going to have a brain implant. you're going to have a bladder one. where else are putting them. are they putting them. >> poo. >> because poo. >> because poo. >> oh that where you're >> oh that thing where you're not if you need to or not. >> think that's a not. >> think that'sa >> i think that's a bit clearer. >> i think that's a bit clearer. >> but but this is >> surely so. but but this is the thing about. no. the interesting thing about. no. >> know, about future >> you know, about the future and about you about being and about you talk about being young. that. but you young. you need that. but you know, being your age, claire, i'd say that's a good investment. that's a good investment. that's a good investment. i'm just saying, like, being honest. investment. i'm just saying, likedo being honest. investment. i'm just saying, likedo you being honest. investment. i'm just saying, like do you know?g honest. >> do you know? >> do you know? >> look, you you're being provocative. >> the words out of claire's mouth. >> i know you've rendered me speechless . speechless. >> this is how i'm going to become a billionaire by one of these kids, isn't it? i'm going to making all these weird to start making all these weird inventions. to start making all these weird inv inventions to take away the functions that our bodies do intuitively, , anyway, intuitively, naturally, anyway, that need. that's not that we don't need. that's not all are anyway . all these kids are doing anyway. >> a woman of a certain age,

>> as a woman of a certain age, you me laugh too you can't make me laugh too much. we might might need much. yeah, we might might need some bladder control. >> . let's talk about the >> there. let's talk about the kate of sun. i think kate effect, of the sun. i think the time's also running it. and this all about the princess this is all about the princess of wales revelation. hugely driving up . yeah. sort of people driving up. yeah. sort of people suspicious of whether they might be sick or not. i mean, do we really believe that already people's lives being saved ? people's lives are being saved? >> well, i don't know whether they're saved i they're being saved yet, but i think the intention i mean, they're being saved yet, but i tithink the intention i mean, they're being saved yet, but i tithink theyie intention i mean, they're being saved yet, but i tithink they saidtention i mean, they're being saved yet, but i tithink they said the on i mean, they're being saved yet, but i tithink they said the sameiean, they're being saved yet, but i tithink they said the same thing i think they said the same thing about charles king charles when he when he came out with he when he also came out with his diagnosis. i think he when he also came out with his is diagnosis. i think he when he also came out with his is actuallynosis. i think he when he also came out with his is actually the s. i think he when he also came out with his is actually the biggest< this is actually the biggest part of that message those part of that message of those videos if you're videos is that if you're concerned and i saw the nhs put out a statement few out a statement as well a few days saying you're days ago saying if you're concerned cancer , go and concerned about cancer, go and speak your gp urgently. go, speak to your gp urgently. go, go and it's good to see go now and it's good to see someone as young as kate doing this, because there are of this, because there are a lot of people who are young that do get cancer it's it's a cancer and it's not. it's a bit of amongst young people cancer and it's not. it's a bit of talk amongst young people cancer and it's not. it's a bit of talk aboutiongst young people cancer and it's not. it's a bit of talk about canceryoung people cancer and it's not. it's a bit of talk about cancer because sople cancer and it's not. it's a bit of talk about cancer because yous to talk about cancer because you think, i'm young, i'm invincible. well, actually, if you you you have any concerns, you should to your gp.

should just go to your gp. there's some good news off there's also some good news off the of this think the back of this a story i think it was the mirror saying it was from the mirror saying that new science now that there's new science now that's discovering dormant that's discovering these dormant cells in breast cancer for women that are it's able to detect them. so you can get this preventative cancer treatment to stop cells from from stop those cells from from multiplying, which is incredible. you know, incredible. and with, you know, the good side of ai also identifying cancer where humans might miss it. it's amazing stuff, and, you know, all age groups, it's terrible. it is affecting all age groups. but the saddest thing i've ever experienced is the teenage cancer trust were by, you know, there's teenagers there and you see them one week and they're not there the next week. and but hopefully they get better, stats are increasing. they're getting better all the time. which is which is. >> well, i'm still a gawk at the fact we haven't found a cure for cancer yet. with the amount of money and research that's been plugged into it, russia last year had said they were very close to finding a cure for it,

but putin pulled it or he was, you know, there's just so much out there. we just don't know from one day to the next. >> i'll tell you who else is out there. the education secretary, gillian keegan, there this gillian keegan, is there this morning government morning because the government is specialist is set to fund specialist support children just support for children with just various autism, various conditions autism, learning difficulties, mobility, secretary of state, you can you can tell us more what you're trying to do and who it affects. good morning to you . good morning to you. >> good morning eamonn. yeah. well what we're trying to do is expand the number of places for special educational needs . so special educational needs. so everybody, every parent who's listening, who has a child with special educational needs, may have felt at times that they're sort of battling to try and get the right support or the right provision, because we've had a massive increase in demand. so what over time what we've been doing over time is increasing number is increasing the number of places , so what we've been doing places, so what we've been doing is putting more money into it. 2.6 billion. this is the last tranche today. 850 million. and overall, that will increase the number of special educational

need places by 60,000 all across the country. so every area will get an increase in capacity. >> and will there be any impact on, on councils, you know , in on, on councils, you know, in their provision with this increase in funding, i mean , the increase in funding, i mean, the pressure you said this is increasing capacity. lots of parents are saying that this isn't working. well, i think actually you've been quoted as saying it isn't working well. the for anyone it the system for anyone as it stands, there any sort of stands, are there any sort of pressure still after this pressure points still after this funding released ? yes. funding has been released? yes. >> do have special >> well, we do have a special educational needs improvement plan and that shows that we know that we need to improve the system. and there's a number of strands to that. so there'll be more trained more workforce being trained as well. educational psychologists, sencos etc. so there's a lot of things in the plan, but this specifically is looking at more places. but the council pressures we have increased this sort of high needs budget to pay for, for, for this part of their budget to 10.5 million. so that's actually gone up 60% in

the last five years to cope with that increased demand . but we that increased demand. but we also do also have two programmes. to work with councils delivering better value and safety valve because we know, you know, it's not equal and it has gone up, quite considerably because we just have more and more, children with special educational needs, probably because we know more about special educational needs, and we care about making sure we get the right provision for children. >> yeah. and just just to be clear about this, you're not talking about the way maybe in days would be that days of old would be that children with similar conditions would be educated together, put together , or are you talking together, or are you talking about them being integrated into the ordinary classrooms ? the ordinary classrooms? >> well, we have some integration into mainstream schools and we have some separate annexes , which we've separate annexes, which we've created more places within mainstream schools . but also mainstream schools. but also there are times when you need specialist provision . so specialist provision. so particularly with specialist autism provision, for example ,

autism provision, for example, and some of that today is being provided by the independent sector. one of the things that many people don't know is our special educational needs provision today. about 38% of the schools are independent schools. and that's why this pernicious education tax that labour are proposing would absolutely destroy that sector as well. so we're trying to build up the number of places by 60,000. but we do need to make sure that we keep all parts of the sector in place because they're they're doing they're all they're all doing different things. it is very different things. and it is very broad of different need broad spectrum of different need that we're trying to meet or they're trying to meet, but they're trying to meet, but they're not largely they're specialist a lot of , specialist trusts with a lot of, track record in delivering specialist provision. >> okay . i want to talk to you >> okay. i want to talk to you this morning, if you will, a little bit about china , and little bit about china, and there's reports about cabinet clashes on how to deal with the whether you call it a challenge or a threat. obviously, at the moment the prime minister is sticking with challenge on that treasury worried about our

economic you know, economic partnerships. you know, fifth biggest, biggest trading partner us in the uk where partner for us in the uk where do you stand on this? do you think these sanctions gone think these sanctions have gone far do you think they far enough and do you think they should threat ? should be declared a threat? >> is a complex issue. >> well, it is a complex issue. clearly i mean, what they've said is there's, you know, sanctions obviously for what the national cyber security have said have been breaches. and there's two individuals that have been sanctioned and there's some other travel restrictions as well. and what oliver said is that's the first step along the way. i mean, i'll be going to cabinet after this morning round. guess, round. so we'll be, i guess, talking about there. but i do talking about it there. but i do recognise the complexity because clearly , you know, starting, clearly, you know, starting, you know, of , trade issues know, some sort of, trade issues is what we want to avoid as well. so it is complex, but we do need to be firm as well. and we've been working with our allies both to understand the threats that we face, either as parliamentarians or to our electoral system or to other things as well. that's why we obviously took steps to take chinese companies, state chinese owned companies, state

owned , out of our owned companies, out of our national infrastructure. when we took those steps a couple of years ago. so we are always vigilant and we are always aware and looking and working with others and our allies. but of course, it is complex problem as well because we do get a lot of our imports from china . our imports from china. >> yeah, it's just it's very interesting. just explain that one again to me. you do want to avoid trade issues. now that's the key. that's the key to everything. so you can act annoyed with them. but you can't really be annoyed with them and do anything practical about it . do anything practical about it. >> well, i mean, the diplomatic part of this is obviously going to be handled by the foreign office, and they will have the ambassador think they've ambassador in, i think they've called the ambassador called for the ambassador to come clearly everybody come in, but clearly everybody knows complexities of knows what the complexities of this you've got this situation are. you've got national security, but you've also got, know , a large also got, you know, a large trading partner. >> the language that's been used to describe this turning up to a gunfight with a wooden spoon, that was what one snp mp said.

and then you've got iain duncan smith, who's been personally a victim of the spying by victim of a lot of the spying by the chinese, saying that this the chinese, saying that this the that were the sanctions that were announced yesterday were like an elephant birth to a mouse elephant giving birth to a mouse daily this morning saying daily mail this morning saying fury feeble rebuke to china. fury at feeble rebuke to china. i mean, eamonn's absolutely spot on, isn't it? you're toughening up language, but really up your language, but really this to have no impact this is going to have no impact at china. at all on china. >> is the first step, >> well, this is the first step, but i think, you know, it is something that colleagues are always considering . and we did always considering. and we did you know, we have taken action in the past. i think it was quite a big decision to take, huawei was out of our huawei as it was out of our national that national infrastructure. that wasn't the wasn't an easy decision at the time, it was that we time, but it was one that we took. so do take measured took. so we do take measured responses , but do responses, but we do take response. of we will response. and of course we will always be vigilant and always look to what need to do. look to what we need to do. national security is the most important thing. so, you know, in this case, you know, they were not successful attempts. but of course, we all need to make sure that that remains the case. electoral system, case. and our electoral system, there's elections going there's a lot of elections going on year is absolutely key.

on this year is absolutely key. and need sure that we and we need to make sure that we protect security secretary protect our security secretary of state, thanks for your thoughts this morning. >> your project >> good luck with your project in those, those kids in integrating those, those kids with and, and with disabilities and, and various other problems into the school network. we appreciate your time. thank you very much . your time. thank you very much. alex, the secretary of state, you know , talking there about you know, talking there about the whole trade issue, which is what we were touching upon earlier on. you can say now, china, you're being very bad. and you're being very naughty. and you're being very naughty. and we're going tell and we're going to tell everybody, going to call everybody, we're going to call you say that this this you out and say that this this is right . but you out and say that this this is right. but china must be is not right. but china must be going, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever you nailed it eamonn didn't you. >> i mean i think that >> it is i mean i think that that that characterisation by iain smith perfect and iain duncan smith is perfect and elephant giving birth to a mouse. we again appearing to be tough but not really doing anything. and i think it's because again if you look at what's happened over the last decade have so we're decade or so, we have so we're so entangled with china, we can't it. can't get out of it. >> not an opportunity for us here. i mean, if all of us were

conscious, more conscious about where we were buying our goods for, build bit of for, we could build up a bit of a manufacturing industry here, you see, i think we you know. yeah. see, i think we would want to do that, but i just don't think. >> i think capitalism just goes for the cheapest deal. yeah, all the time . and it rules. the time. and it rules. >> it does, it does. and remember years ago , claude remember years ago, claude littner i were maschi littner and i were on maschi with were . with you, and we were. >> i never forget that day. and that . that was. >> it's uppermost in my mind, claire. and claude littner. >> but we were talking. we were talking, stopping. >> we were talking about how firms come in, buy over and dismantle things . right. take. dismantle things. right. take. take things down, destroy what was there , and then sell all off was there, and then sell all off into capitalism. >> you could argue capitalism is a great evil. >> you could. >> you could. >> yeah, but the alternative is xi jinping's communist china, where he's arresting his citizens , doesn't allow them to citizens, doesn't allow them to message each other. there's no freedom, there's no voting, there's no in selection. freedom, there's no voting, the but no in selection. freedom, there's no voting, the but you in selection. freedom, there's no voting, the but you couldin selection. freedom, there's no voting, the but you couldin selethisi. freedom, there's no voting, the but you couldin selethis new >> but you could argue this new freedom capitalism either . freedom and capitalism either. you just you have you know, you're just you have to a certain drink or

to buy a certain soft drink or a certain food. >> or maybe, maybe the argument is is actually no is that there is actually no perfect think that the perfect system. i think that the issue is that we've issue we've got is that we've got this globalist form of form of it's not very of capitalism. it's not very nationalised . so we're we've now nationalised. so we're we've now become on other become so reliant on other countries for everything. imagine if i'll just say this. this is the perfect picture for people. if i said amazon stops delivering to you tomorrow, the uproar would insane. i think uproar would be insane. i think people more that than people care more about that than anything else. >> alex and claire, thank >> okay, alex and claire, thank you indeed. you both very much indeed. you're welcome . 40, 40, 40 minutes. >> you behave yourself. >> you behave yourself. >> be back. >> i'll be back. >> i'll be back. >> okay? you love what's >> okay? you love it. what's that stain? that wet stain? >> eamonn. eamonn right. i'm >> oh, eamonn. eamonn right. i'm going north. i'm going. >> oh, eamonn. eamonn right. i'm goiistop rth. i'm going. >> oh, eamonn. eamonn right. i'm goiistop iti. i'm going. >> oh, eamonn. eamonn right. i'm goiistop it! i'm going. >> oh, eamonn. eamonn right. i'm goiistop it i right.iing. >> stop it! right. >> stop it! right. >> did you spill that drink there? >> did you stop it? i believable, right? >> alex burkill is going to raise the tone for us. hopefully. here's your forecast. it might be a bit damp. who knows? >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on gb news. who's .

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leading our news this morning. ministers poised to formally declare china a threat to our national security . two national security. two individuals and one company face sanctions after the data of 14 million of us has been leaked . million of us has been leaked. >> yes, the government is using tough rhetoric on beijing, but there are plenty of conservative mps saying that it's simply too little, too late . find out more little, too late. find out more with me very soon. >> and one of those is the former conservative leader, sir iain duncan smith. he says the sanctions do not go far enough, so i welcome these two sanctions from the government. >> it is a little bit this statement, like an elephant giving birth to a mouse . giving birth to a mouse. >> i think of that one. farmers fight back, tractors bring rush hour chaos to westminster all around the house of commons, as more than 100 gathered around parliament last night in protest over the lack of support for uk food production. your views are very welcome throughout the

programme this morning and with more services than ever going onune more services than ever going online and over 2 million older people in the uk without access to the internet, we're asking our retirees victims of online britain. >> that's our debate this hour and in the sport this morning, wales can get to the euros if they manage to beat poland in cardiff tonight. >> declan rice will captain england the time on england for the first time on his appearance against his 50th appearance against belgium. appearance belgium. that's 50th appearance for england, not against belgium. it's not just belgium. and it's not just england, by the way. with shirt problems, will be problems, germany will be wearing pink. what would franz beckenbauer morning? >> this week's unsettled theme continues today. most of us will see some rain at some point. there will also be a bit of hill snow over the high ground of scotland. i'll have more details shortly . shortly. >> so it's our top story this morning . china could be declared morning. china could be declared a national security threat after

the uk and us have accused china of cyber attacks, which have targeted personal information of politicians, journalists and 40 million voters. >> the foreign secretary , lord >> the foreign secretary, lord cameron, spoke about this. >> he condemned the attacks on a statement on x, formerly twitter, last night. >> attacks on our democracy are unacceptable . yet that is what unacceptable. yet that is what organisations backed by china have done today. we are publicly calling them out and we've taken action. we've summoned the chinese ambassador and we are putting sanctions, travel bans , putting sanctions, travel bans, asset freezes on the individuals and the group responsible . and the group responsible. >> so here's the thing. our political correspondent , olivia political correspondent, olivia utley, cameron said he's calling the might, but a lot of people are saying, but hold on, dave, you called them in. >> well, i mean, that is what makes this very , very difficult makes this very, very difficult for david cameron. it was david cameron who was prime minister when the golden era of the

relationship between britain and china was first heralded. george osborne and david cameron talked up the possibility of a of a huge, important future relationship with china. and looking back on what they said now, some of it has really sort of aged like milk. we know now that china is a threat to the united kingdom. this later latest cyber breach. we've seen cyber breaches before, but this is a particularly big and worrying one. the data of 40 million voters has been accessed by chinese spies and, perhaps more worryingly , a group of more worryingly, a group of about 43 parliamentarians and their staff have been being followed online by chinese spies. now now there are plenty of conservative mps who say that what david cameron is saying now, although it might sound tough, actually doesn't go far enough. yes, the government is saying that sanctions have been introduced, but those sanctions

are on relatively small chinese companies and relatively lowly officials in the uk. and the us. meanwhile, 12 very senior chinese officials have been sanctioned. so the sanctions don't go far enough. that's what conservative mps say. and they also say that rishi sunak is wrong not to actually officially designate china as a threat to the united kingdom. now, that may all just sound like semantics, but these mps say that it semantics, but these mps say thatitis semantics, but these mps say that it is very, very important and important global sign that the uk designates china as a threat . that's something that threat. that's something that liz truss said that she wanted to do. of course, she never got the chance in her six weeks as prime minister, but something that has always just that rishi sunak has always just just short of calling just fallen short of calling for. is it something now that he will feel the pressure to do? might it be an option for him to show that he is serious about this introducing further this without introducing further sanctions , which could of course sanctions, which could of course be very damaging to the uk economy? spoke to gillian economy? we spoke to gillian keegan few moments keegan just a few moments ago, and talking about the

and we were talking about the cabinet splits this, she said. >> she's off to a cabinet meeting soon she's meeting as soon as she's finished the morning round, but it sounded from she it sounded from what she said, as on the as if she was kind of on the treasury presumably prime treasury and presumably prime ministers ex ministers position being ex treasury concerned treasury of being concerned about economic about harming that economic partnership. but there are others within the cabinet who very much think that this is the opportunity, if not now, when what will it take really for us to wake up to this? we've kind of sleepwalked into this position, we? position, haven't we? >> well, absolutely. and there are plenty of very senior conservative mps and certainly a few in the cabinet who think that now is the moment to get tough on china. you've got some really influential conservative backbenchers , former ministers, backbenchers, former ministers, saying today that the government's reaction is feeble. those were the words of robert jenrick, the former immigration minister, and of course very close friend of rishi sunak's suella braverman, is saying similar. smith has similar. iain duncan smith has a piece in the telegraph today saying that the government just hasn't gone far enough. he is a former leader of the conservative party. these are

influential backbenchers , they influential backbenchers, they are big hitters and they are pushing the government really, really hard on this. they're a really hard on this. they're a really organised group and rishi sunak will find it pretty hard not bow to that pressure , not to bow to that pressure, especially when his own leadership is looking so precarious . yes, olivia. precarious. yes, olivia. >> thank you. we'll leave it there. the time. 7:06. shamima begum has lost her latest attempt to challenge the removal of her citizenship at the supreme court. >> you'll remember that begum travelled to syria when she was 15 years old to join isis. she had her citizenship revoked on national security grounds in 2019, but it didn't end there. >> since then, she's made multiple attempts to appeal that decision. she claims she's a victim of trafficking, and we're going to find out from filmmaker and journalist, a man who's met and journalist, a man who's met and spent time with shamima begum in syria, andrew drury. andrew, morning . andrew, good morning. >> good morning. >> good morning. >> andrew. you know, this is a very complicated and in many ways a very sad story. but

people take sides . and i think people take sides. and i think the problem with shamima begum is and i don't wish to sound cruel about this, but i just think this is practical is that people don't care. they don't care. they think it's over and done with and they think she's, it's right that she doesn't get back into this country. i would say that is the mood, the feeling out there. what would you say ? you say? >> i agree, but, even a citizenship wouldn't mean that she comes back into the country because she can still face trial, in syria. and i think that's the right thing to do, because you've got to remember, her crimes were committed on the syrian she was part syrian people. if she was part of they say, the morality of what they say, the morality police, there'd be a few, people that have been frightened that would have been frightened of her image. so i think she should have faced trial there in any don't think she any case. so i don't think she should have come back whether a citizenship not. citizenship was revoked or not. and understand, and you've got to understand, the appeal refused the court of appeal have refused this because evidence they this because the evidence they had i know by had against her, i know by speaking to witnesses on the ground that she most, i would say, quite certainly sowed

suicide vests. i would say that she was definitely part of the hisbah police by the people i was saying. so i think it's the right thing to do. and i think it stops that question throughout this country. will she back? think it's she come back? i think it's definitely now definitely no. now >> i mean, you talked about the court of appeal. that case was unanimous dismissed back in february though that february 1st, though of that i think the lady chief justice, she said it could be argued the decision in miss begum's case was harsh, but she said it could also be argued that she's the author her misfortune. i author of her own misfortune. i suppose this all hangs around the fact she was 15 when she went out there, which is quite clearly a child. you've met her since as an do you think since as an adult, do you think she's all of this? do you she's gaming all of this? do you think she's to act think that she's trying to act remorseful she's seen remorseful because she's seen the caliphate has gone the way the caliphate has gone and come home? or and just wants to come home? or what was your impression of her authenticity? suppose , it authenticity? i suppose, it started at the appointment because i've met her on 6 or 7 occasions. when i first met her, i had that feeling that she was trafficked, and she was a young,

scared girl. she'd made a mistake, she was quite apologetic in a way, regretting what she had done. what changed? my what she had done. what changed? my view on her is over a period of two years, she'd changed her character into this victim. somebody got to her and said that she was . you know, she was. that she was. you know, she was. if i give you, for instance, when i first met her about her husband, she said she loved her husband, she said she loved her husband . she looks forward to husband. she looks forward to being back with him. by the time i'd and speaking to i'd finished and speaking to her, yeah. >> remind people he was >> just to remind people he was a dutch es member who we believe beheaded and executed lots and lots of people. he's in jail somewhere, and this was a woman that she said, and she was aware that she said, and she was aware that he did that. and she loved him. she cared about him. a lot of people said that would have been the radicalisation. been part of the radicalisation. but it because she showed but it wasn't because she showed me of scenes her kid me pictures of scenes of her kid with chocolate the face. with chocolate around the face. she picture of a she painted this picture of a lovely family relationship, and by about year or so by probably about a year or so into the relationship, she told me, that he mentally abused her.

and she became all of a sudden, after a year and a half, this victim, this, you know, she was a victim of trafficking. i'd never heard that for the first year of meeting her. the word trafficking, radicalisation can never come out of her mouth. it's only towards the end. and she changed because she thought the opinion change if she the opinion would change if she changed. as you can see, the western she was. i western clothes, she was. i think was . this was think she was. this was orchestrated by the other girls think she was. this was or> she has no option, her options are none. i mean, she has to. has to stay there, i know what she's like now because i've got a contact in the camp. she's suicidal . she's she's suicidal. she's contemplating sukh suicide. she hasn't come out of tent hasn't come out of her tent anymore , but i think we've all

anymore, but i think we've all got realise , what she's got to realise, what she's capable of or what she was capable of or what she was capable of. we feel sorry for this. we keep going back to 15. and, yes, she was, 15. but this girl, would have committed crimes in this country if she was asked to. and we got to be aware of that. and not only that, we can't be sure how safe she is as well, because they have telephones in the camp. she is as well, because they hknowelephones in the camp. she is as well, because they hknow that ones in the camp. she is as well, because they hknow that there's, the camp. she is as well, because they hknow that there's, camp mp. i know that there's, camp marriages to isis, higher isis officials. still going officials. so that's still going on camp . and we don't on in the camp. and we don't know she's still in know whether she's still been in contact isis throughout the contact with isis throughout the time she's in that camp. time that she's in that camp. and would she probably and i would suspect she probably has. i managed to get has. i mean, i managed to get text to her for two years. >> yeah, but i mean, ideas don't die, do they? they just i suppose they go underground and a of us are kind of thought a lot of us are kind of thought the from isis or isis had the threat from isis or isis had sort passed. then you sort of passed. and then you look happened in moscow look at what happened in moscow last week and you wonder, you know, the threat still know, how real the threat still could be. i mean, france have just raised their terror threat level level, level to the highest level, haven't they? in response to what week. we have what happened last week. we have to mindful that this could

what happened last week. we have to happenful that this could what happened last week. we have to happen againit this could what happened last week. we have to happen again . this could all happen again. >> well, you might say the threats lessened because the news don't show it anymore because they've had their eyes have been on probably other things and other wars, as we know. but i travelling backwards and syria and iraq, and forward from syria and iraq, i threats never gone i mean, the threats never gone away . mean, lessened away. i mean, it's lessened because they raqqa and because they took raqqa and baghouz like that, baghouz and places like that, but of isis all but there's pockets of isis all over place middle over the place in the middle east. hasn't away at east. it hasn't gone away at all. still all. and the threat is still alive real, probably within alive and real, probably within this itself. there's this country in itself. there's pockets. so we don't know what she's well, we don't know what she's well, we don't know what she's of. i mean, she's capable of. i mean, i certainly don't know because i know years. at one know her for two years. at one stage she said she i was the closest person to her. and i don't know her. and i think she is threat. even if it's just is a threat. even if it's just for what she stood for. and i think her punishment is right and justified. >> andrew, she is free. >> but but andrew, she is free. correct me if i'm wrong to appeal and appeal again. i don't know who's paying for this, but she obviously isn't paying for it and she can keep coming back and saying i'm going to try again. can she not, i think the

court of appeal said no , yeah. court of appeal said no, yeah. there's organisations such as reprieve and people like this, and i don't understand where she gets all this money, and i don't think that's right. in any case, let's talk about millions of defence. i find that absolutely shocking. don't know, one shocking. and i don't know, one iever shocking. and i don't know, one i ever hear talks about the victims. the victims of syria were at the hands of people like her. i don't even know why we're so that concerned and bothered about. keep going to about. we keep going back to the age her 15, but 15 year age of her being 15, but 15 year olds, believe me, in syria , olds, believe me, in syria, commit the most heinous crimes, so . so i have little sympathy so. so i have little sympathy for her. >> okay, andrew, very, very interesting hearing from you. and the fact that you have met her and you have visited her, that's the story of shamima begum, who's lost an initial bid to challenge her citizenship removal at the supreme court yesterday. andrew, thank you very much indeed. we'll leave it there. thank you. >> thank you. at 714, let's take a look at some of the other

stories coming into the newsroom this morning. and the un security council is calling for an ceasefire in gaza an immediate ceasefire in gaza for the first time since the war beganin for the first time since the war began in october. the us abstained from the vote, but this was a move that signalled weakening relations israel, weakening relations with israel, who then quickly cancelled a visit to washington in reaction. it comes as the uk has delivered its first aid package to palestinians. >> donald trump will face trial next month in the first ever criminal trial of a former or current us president, in a win for him , he was granted a ten for him, he was granted a ten day extension to pay his fine, which was reduced from 360 million to 140 million. a republican spokesperson , republican spokesperson, jennifer ewing, spoke to gb news. >> with each one, trump's numbers went up right. so people do not care about this. they know that donald trump, especially in this case, has been one of the most well known real estate moguls in new york city for half century , nothing

city for half a century, nothing like this has ever been brought up. he ran for president , as we up. he ran for president, as we know. nothing like it was brought up during his presidency . and so now when he decides to run again, this is coming out. >> uk border forces have been slammed for holding two victims of the october 7th hamas music festival attack for hours at manchester airport, in an incident that many are calling anti—semitic. the home secretary, james cleverly, announced on x the incident was being investigated, saying we do not tolerate anti—semitism or any form of discrimination . any form of discrimination. >> pensions. and we were talking about the state pension being held back from, this current, generation. gillian says, we paid into this all our working lives. state pension is paid by one generation for the next to receive my pension was delayed five years, 11 months and ten days.i five years, 11 months and ten days. i think i should receive

some recognition for money withheld from me. keep your thoughts coming in on all of that. thoughts coming in on all of that . and lots of people have that. and lots of people have been getting in touch as well this morning saying why they're up bright and early, because we were talking about the sky were talking about how the sky is lighten earlier. is beginning to lighten earlier. and we've had people saying that they're this they're going off to work this morning. they're going off to work this mo a ing. on they're going off to work this moa ing. on the beach, and he for a walk on the beach, and he was settling down paint for was settling down to paint for ten and he goes for ten hours, and he goes for a walk on the beach, like paint the room or, you know, the living room or, you know, painting pictures. oh. professional we love professional artist, so we love to what you're up why to hear what you're up to, why you're so early, as well as you're up so early, as well as us, whether you're coming off a night shift keep that night shift as well. keep that coming com. >> okay. and if you are heading out yet out, here's how out yet to head out, here's how the will look. alex the day will look. alex describes that. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> morning. here's your latest gb news weather update brought to you by the met office. there will be some dry weather around today, but also swathe rain today, but also a swathe of rain pushing northwards . and pushing its way northwards. and this morning do have some

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desirable. she is. >> she's something about her very attractive woman has to be said. >> you know, nadine, i what >> you know, nadine, i know what it's being a similar age it's like being a similar age and similar symbol. similar sort of reaction to things there. but i i think the, the i think i think the, the surprise of this is that people are surprised that she's getting compliments at 66. >> i don't think they are. i think she just wanted to put it on the front of the daily mail. she knows it's not a surprise . i she knows it's not a surprise. i just thought she'd celebrate her. just thought she'd celebrate heryou're saying she's not attractive? >> knows. >> she knows. >> she knows. >> everyone knows hot. she >> everyone knows she's hot. she just shout about it on just wants to shout about it on the the paper. yeah. do the front of the paper. yeah. do you saying the fact >> yeah, but i'm saying the fact that it makes headlines is wrong. >> yeah, but, you know, she should be able to show herself off like that, i suppose. yeah. very good. well, we're discussing that in the papers as well, a little bit later on. >> and after this little break, we're going to be talking about big cars, those suvs, chelsea tractors, whatever you want to call people who call them. should people who drive more for the drive them pay more for the privilege? be

okay. oxford city council could be set to charge 4x4 drivers. higher parking fees. the green party has put the motion forward. many say that's outrageous. branding branding it another attempt to use the motorist as a cash cow . motorist as a cash cow. >> yeah, it's just the same old, same old stuff. should drivers of bigger cars be taxed more, joining me now, meteorologist jim dale, he thinks, yeah, he'd get the boot in there and, get whatever money he can out of all of it, for whatever reason. we'll find out very shortly. and motoring journalist danny kelly, who disagrees on this? danny, i'm with you, mate. i've got a range rover vogue and love it. i need it. i would argue a need it as well for my disabilities getting in and out and whatever, and i just don't see the point. i drive very few miles, so i really don't see why i'm being penalised for this. or could be.

>> i agree, it's the politics of envy. and if you scratch the surface, this is a proposal from the green party in oxford. and if you scratch the surface and the truth comes out, in our view, a large number of drivers don't need to have such a big car. larger cars are more expensive. so in the same way that the wealthy should be paying that the wealthy should be paying more for public services, larger should pay paying more for public services, largeiif should pay paying more for public services, largeiif they should pay paying more for public services, largeiif they choose ould pay paying more for public services, largeiif they choose to .d pay paying more for public services, largeiif they choose to havei more if they choose to have them. nothing behind them. there's nothing behind these aren't these proposals that aren't common they common sense, but what they don't , eamonn, that don't realise, eamonn, is that you range suvs. you drive a range rover suvs. they start at like about a grand nowadays for something like a big bmw x5. so the green party's perception is an ignorant one, a baseless one. so they want to charge someone double to park in oxford city centre , or maybe not oxford city centre, or maybe not allow them in the city centre because they're large cars and they're worried about pollution. they use the same engines as their saloon equivalents. so that's debunked. the emission one. and as far as, wealth is concerned , wealth associated concerned, wealth associated with large cars. i don't know

how old your range is, but if you had a couple of grand, you can buy an equivalent. but an older range rover, it doesn't mean that minted. yeah. mean that you're minted. yeah. >> with you. that >> no, i agree with you. that and just just before we and also just just before we cross over to jim, i just want to say to you , you talk about to say to you, you talk about mobility allowances and whatever . and so whether it's a cash cow, whether it's a, you know, nissan, whether it's a kia, they're all doing cars that are raised off the ground. i mean , raised off the ground. i mean, they all look 4x4 i don't know, do they come in to the same cars are just are getting bigger. it has to be said. are they getting more dangerous as a result? danny >> well, there's no evidence to suggest that oxford, the green party and oxford haven't come up with any data to say that you know, unfortunately, three people lives because know, unfortunately, three peopwere lives because know, unfortunately, three peopwere hit lives because know, unfortunately, three peopwere hit by lives because know, unfortunately, three peopwere hit by an es because know, unfortunately, three peopwere hit by an suvzcause know, unfortunately, three peopwere hit by an suv asuse they were hit by an suv as opposed to a ford focus. so for people who are proposing such draconian legislation and council laws, they should really be coming up with some hard facts to say, listen , if that facts to say, listen, if that lad hadn't been hit by a range

roven lad hadn't been hit by a range rover, still be alive. but rover, he'd still be alive. but there's that. there's none of that. >> a no man who >> okay, well, a no man who likes hard fact , and that is likes a hard fact, and that is jim dale. so tell us, is it true, then, the same engines in saloon these big four by saloon cars as these big four by fours and therefore the same emissions ? emissions? >> yeah. look, there's several issues here. the first one is oxford itself. if you've ever dnven oxford itself. if you've ever driven into oxford , it's driven into oxford, it's basically one big road going in. and the rest of the roads are quite small. so my first point here is why would you want to drive into oxford in the first place? it's well served by, pubuc place? it's well served by, public transport, you can park at park and ride in a bus. that's what i would do. i don't know whether you i mean, in your in your big car would drive into oxford and drive around oxford because the streets very because the streets are very small. reason, one small. so there's a reason, one reason might be reason why oxford might be oxford council, which is a progressive council moving in this, this general direction, look, generally speaking, suvs, i don't think we're looking at the smaller end of the suvs because they're more or less the

same as other vehicles. we're looking at the medium to higher end.the looking at the medium to higher end. the big stuff . they do end. the big stuff. they do contribute more to the climate change, fuel emissions . change, fossil fuel emissions. they do. and proven in america that , the high because of the that, the high because of the high front end of many of these vehicles, you don't the visibility is less, and the potential of accidents, of killing people is more . and that killing people is more. and that was proven in the early 200 or 2000. in the us, exactly. on, on on this point. so so for all of these reasons and many more, as i said, it's a progressive thing and i think we're moving in this direction anyway in terms of saying, look, let's, let's, let's stop these cars going into city centres, let's make sure that it's pedestrianised. this type thing. yeah. drive the type of thing. yeah. drive the more open no problem. more open roads, no problem. drive dirt tracks. no drive them on dirt tracks. no problem. into small problem. but into small city centres like oxford and other cities like lincoln. and that doesn't that doesn't deal with the problem. with all of this, jim, you've got a situation where you're getting rid of the

bigger cars so that we'll get five smaller cars in their place. i mean , the real problem. place. i mean, the real problem. and, danny, i'll get your opinion on this. and, danny, i'll get your opinion on this . i genuinely opinion on this. i genuinely believe there are too many cars in this country. absolutely too many cars. and we should be making cars. probably more expensive. so that and no politician is ever going to do that. but cars more expensive so that. but cars more expensive so that people will buy less of them, fewer of them . them, fewer of them. >> well, firstly, i'll answer isabel's question that jim dodged. isabel, the engines that go into high end suvs like audi's and bmw are identical engines to the ones that go in, say , audi a4 and audi a6. so say, audi a4 and audi a6. so that takes care of your question. as far as ayman's concerned about too many cars on the roads. i agree with you, mate. you know you drive . i'm mate. you know you drive. i'm based in the west midlands and you drive through suburbs of birmingham and there are cars littered almost like discarded because you've got tight, tight terraced housing and you've got 3 or 4 car owners in the tight, tight terraced house. there's

far too many. but of course, even i'm a car dealer, so i'm also going to caveat that with saying you can never have enough quality used cars, but i do agree with your central point. >> yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah. >> and just just on that point on, on the tax point of view, i think we know that if you, if, if taxes are put in there, it tends to put people off cars or anything for that matter. and thereby eamonn's point about fewer cars, yeah. i would agree with as well. i think that's the direction of travel. i think that's the direction of travel with ulez. i think it's the direction of travel with suvs and other very large vehicles. i think all want to sort of think we all want to sort of drive into towards a city centre, maybe park car in centre, maybe park the car in a in a car park and get on the bus or whatever other vehicle , maybe or whatever other vehicle, maybe even a taxi. but these this pubuc even a taxi. but these this public transport, this is this is this is what's happening. this what's unfolding in this is what's unfolding in front your your eyes. and we front of your your eyes. and we don't the big vehicles in don't need the big vehicles in the middle of city centres, whether it be london, oxford, lincoln , birmingham wherever lincoln, birmingham or wherever

else. them out . else. if we can keep them out. and, and that that small movement in tax is more likely to put people off buying these cars and therefore that is a step in the direction for taking cars off the road completely. >> and final point, danny, the electrification of cars isn't going well. it's not going well at all. sales are well done and you and i know the reasons for all of that, particularly on the second hand market. but i just i read at weekend that merc read at the weekend that merc and are continuing to make and bmw are continuing to make combustion engines and will do for at least for the next six years. so they've drawn back from their commitment to go all electric . electric. >> yeah. and good for them. so they should. the market isn't there at the moment. the infrastructure the charging infrastructure the charging infrastructure simply isn't there unless you have the luxury of a charging point . there unless you have the luxury of a charging point. i'm of having a charging point. i'm speaking generally here, but unless luxury of unless you have the luxury of a charging outside your charging point outside your front very front door, they're very difficult. to actually get on with, you know, we hear horror stories, range anxiety and range anxiety is isn't a fallacy. you

know, people genuinely are worried about going long distance journeys these cars distance journeys in these cars and the used car market. honestly, in the last 18 months, i mean, they've they've halved. i'm going to say something that is obviously incorrect, but you can't them away . that's an can't give them away. that's an expression for you. >> gentlemen, thank >> okay, gentlemen, thank you very , it gets people very much indeed, it gets people thinking. it gets people talking this they'll get in this morning. they'll get in touch us. thank you both touch with us. thank you both for, initiating the argument on that gb views news dot com. that gb views gb news dot com. >> both just whilst they were talking. there is a breaking and developing story happening in the states, we'll try and the states, which we'll try and bnng the states, which we'll try and bring pictures a huge bring you pictures of, of a huge bndge bring you pictures of, of a huge bridge in baltimore that has collapsed after being hit by a ship. at least one vehicle has fallen into the water. this is an ongoing situation, obviously very serious . an ongoing situation, obviously very serious. so we will try to bnng very serious. so we will try to bring you those pictures. apparently it was a cargo ship that hit this bridge in the us city, and as i say, we'll keep a close eye on that. the police there attending that that say that there could be a number of

workers in the water as well. >> got after the break. >> got to sport after the break. see then.

we were just talking about taxing bigger cars. putting more taxing bigger cars. putting more tax on bigger cars. brian says four by fours, like land rovers do pay more car tax. insurance has gone through the roof. that is, if you can get it, brian. and parts are maintenance are more expensive. an extra charge would be totally unfair, paul says electric cars are far heavier, so they damage roads more, so they should be taxed at a higher rate than combustion cars. a lot of nonsense. if it makes any difference what won't damages your roads is articulated lorries. the amount of lorries that are on the roads as opposed to being on a train lines. that's what i would say. here's mr coyte , he's got the here's mr coyte, he's got the sport, we're all behind wheels

tonight. >> we are behind wales tonight. >> we are behind wales tonight. >> tonight? yeah. >> tonight? yeah. >> huge game because we're in the middle of the international break. premier and break. premier league and everything saturday. break. premier league and eveiasiing saturday. break. premier league and eveiasiing wales saturday. break. premier league and eveiasiing wales are aturday. but as far as wales are concerned huge they've got concerned huge game. they've got to beat poland tonight. simple as that. one off game. whoever wins will go to the euros. okay young side. average of 20 young team. their average age is 25. the average amount of caps they've got is 43. >> that's a lot. >> so that tells you that they're you know they're well seasoned. they are well seasoned as youngsters. so very hopeful that they're going to manage to beat poland tonight. no. >> the commentator for the england belgium friendly tonight is friendly isn't it. yeah it is a friendly isn't it. yeah it is a friendly isn't it. yeah it is friendly. it better be well seasoned in the team because second half they're coming out without their names on the back of their shirts. that's correct. >> why the first part? yes. it's. well, it's because of dementia. it's raising awareness around dementia . of course, around dementia. of course, a lot has been said around football going back to jeff

astle and the amount of footballers that suffer from dementia. and of course people suffering dementia. so the reason that is, is to reason behind that is, is to raise awareness is if they take the names off the shirt, it's probably symbolising the fact that memories are lost by people with dementia. so that's the reason for that . the numbers are reason for that. the numbers are still going to be on there, so you'll be okay with the numbers. it'll the days, but it'll be like the old days, but just case you should be able just in case you should be able to recognise, because they're all players. all very well known players. yeah, too well yeah, but you're too not well hooked are you? hooked on it, are you? >> you explained well >> you explained it very well last time just to form the association. it is, they're association. if it is, they're saying , look, they're the saying, look, they're the proportion footballers who proportion of footballers who contract dementia or alzheimer's or whatever is much higher than those in the average population. right? then i would say, okay, let's form a link. let's find out if that is the case and if it is the case, should those players still be heading the ball ? ball? >> well, this is it. they've stopped it with kids younger when they're training and they're heading on also

they're heading they put on also they're heading they put on also the ball. i mean we go back 40 years, 50 years. >> what was your balls like when you were younger? >> well they a little stitch you were younger? >> well actually. a little stitch you were younger? >> well actually. theytle stitch you were younger? >> well actually. they hadtitch in them actually. they had a little stitch them tell little stitch in them i tell you, leather, leather. >> i to hit my thigh and >> i used to hit my thigh and leave imprint that called leave an imprint that was called i remember because not the i remember because it's not the fact old eamonn, it's fact that i'm old eamonn, it's the fact that the i went the fact that the school i went to had very old balls and to just had very old balls and they were smaller, they had they were smaller, but they had stitching in. >> they actually had stitching. absolutely right. the absolutely right. and if the stitching you. i stitching catches you. yeah, i tell you would, it tell you what, it would, it would sting. it really would sting. but if you can imagine heading that then you're going to be in sorts of trouble. to be in all sorts of trouble. so the game is tonight. so anyway, the game is tonight. they're you they're playing belgium, you know, think belgium is know, i always think belgium is a wasted generation. a bit of a wasted generation. why? think why? well, because i think a de bruyne, courtois . oh yeah. bruyne, a courtois. oh yeah. alderweireld vertonghen witsel i was on way was writing all these on the way and lukaku hazard dembele. they should world cup. and lukaku hazard dembele. they shoulshould world cup. and lukaku hazard dembele. they shoulshould have world cup. and lukaku hazard dembele. they shoulshould have won ilorld cup. and lukaku hazard dembele. they shoulshould have won everything. they should have won everything. but think but they haven't. and i think they should done it. they should have done it. i think it's just a waste of generation. but anyway they're going playing england going to be playing england tonight. be tonight. it's going to be a friendly rice 50th cap friendly declan rice 50th cap for and he's going

for england. and he's going to be captain birthdays today. >> and today is the march 26th. tuesday, if it is tuesday, march 26th. so if it is your you share it with your birthday you share it with okay let's have a look. >> it's going we're going to play >> it's going we're going to play the game. i could with play the game. i could do with isabel webster to here actually guess are and the guess who they are and the age just the first shall just go with the first one shall we? something. we? i think we have something. hopefully have the hopefully we have one of the players. okay. you know players. okay. well you know what? we've actually got a video of someone in action and it was one of the iconic moments of the world cup . they don't have that world cup. they don't have that ehhen world cup. they don't have that either. haha. you know what? all right. >> i can hide in the wings. >> i can hide in the wings. >> i can either we can either do this or. no, no, look, there it is . oh, diana this or. no, no, look, there it is. oh, diana ross oh down the middle, 1994. so the idea is that she'd run and she was doing the song. she'd take the penalty. it was an empty goal. all she had to do is knock it in, everything explode. and she missed penalty . missed the damn penalty. >> she did. she did. >> she did. she did. >> is diana ross today? >> how old is diana ross today? >> how old is diana ross today? >> oh, say she's 80. >> oh, i'd say she's 80. >> think 80. she's more of >> you think 80. she's more of a defender that's defender than a striker. that's the 8580 is correct. the thing. 8580 is correct.

she's 80 today. oh. have you met diana ross? no i haven't met her. >> but i remember, she got arrested at heathrow airport for arguing with the security people , and which is something you should never do. and, you know, i had said this to my wife when we were in new york, and they said to her, ma'am, you can't take these these liquids in your bag. sure. right. so any normal person say, no , no, you're person would say, no, no, you're quite right. take it after. if they've arrested diana ross. yes. you know. so basically she says, i say, well, i was allowed to bring them in belfast airport and i was allowed to do, which was nonsense. yeah, nonsense. it was nonsense. yeah, nonsense. it was a complete nonsense. but anyway, she starts in this argument they argument and then they confiscate everything and not only that, all our photographs in in new york, i in that holiday in new york, i got them developed when i was out there, and then they were lost. >> you never got them back. never got them back? >> no, that was lost. >> no, that was lost. >> oh, my goodness . >> oh, my goodness. >> oh, my goodness. >> but, you know, if anybody says we have we're going to

we're going to search you or whatever it is, just say yeah fine. is people's problem? fine. what is people's problem? i've always what i've always said what is people's mean, people's problem? i mean, i think i think somebody's someone's shouting someone's been shouting in my ear, we not got someone's been shouting in my ear, mikel we not got someone's been shouting in my ear, mikel arteta we not got someone's been shouting in my ear, mikel arteta right. not got someone's been shouting in my ear, mikel arteta right. wellgot now mikel arteta right. well that's good. >> we're good diana ross by the way i made her recreate that in a hotel room once with a football. it's true, absolutely true. and was true. i did and she was perfectly lovely about it. and i said the we made said let's put the we made a goalin said let's put the we made a goal in the the grosvenor goal in the in the grosvenor house and she scored. so house hotel and she scored. so right let's see him right mikel arteta let's see him okay is , let's okay mikel, here he is, let's see a little picture of him. how old is mikel . oh there is mikel. old is mikel. oh there is mikel. yes. so how old is mikel arteta? i'm going 38. there he is. doo doo doo doo doo 38 3838. >> yes, that could be. >> yes, that could be. >> see, the thing is this was him early in the morning, so he's looking a bit tired. >> so maybe, he's the same age as captain black. yes. anyway, and i would say i'd say 38. i'd say maybe that hinges on slightly younger, although he has got into management very young. has got into management very young . you're doing very well. young. you're doing very well. i'll did. diana ross

i'll go work. we did. diana ross had a tea. i'd go double. >> aren't you? i can see this. 40, 41, 242, 242. >> wow. >> wow. >> i shaved four years off him. >> i shaved four years off him. >> you did delighted with that? >> you did delighted with that? >> because it's because he didn't have his hat. >> no. grey hair. >> no. grey hair. >> that's what it is. >> that's what it is. >> yeah, he's brilliant in that, captain scarlet, so he he's brilliant. his finest hour, think. >> finest are absolutely brilliant. >> good work on diana ross. very good guesswork. >> day's i'm sure . >> that day's work, i'm sure. >> that day's work, i'm sure. >> just what i do. >> just what i do. >> thank you very much, my friend alex armstrong. claire muldoon, they're going to have a wing ting argument next. see you then

breaking news that we're talking about a little bit earlier in the program . a serious situation the program. a serious situation unfolding. 135 in the morning, local time in baltimore, in the united states . a cargo ship united states. a cargo ship crashed into this bridge that

you're seeing if you're watching on tv, if you're listening on radio, absolutely spectacular pictures . this is the francis pictures. this is the francis scott key and it shows scott key bridge. and it shows 1.6 miles of that bridge collapsing into the water. it's thought a number of vehicles went with it. and so huge operation is underway to try and recover a number of people who tragically , are thought to be in tragically, are thought to be in their awful. i've seen pictures like that before, we have seen claire muldoon and alex armstrong, before for this morning, and they are back to talk about stuff that's going to get everybody talking. and, claire, i think this farmers protest at westminster last night, it hasn't got as many people talking as it should . people talking as it should. >> i agree with you. >> i agree with you. >> and i say, you know, people don't take this stuff seriously until their food curtailed until their food is curtailed and their services and supplies to supermarkets and shops and whatever. what have you got to say about this? >> well, i agree completely with

what you're saying, it was difficult this actually difficult to find this actually in the papers, and it was only, in the papers, and it was only, in the papers, and it was only, in the times and the telegraph that made it onto the front page. we've got tractors and page. so we've got tractors and farmers coming from all over the country and what their protesting about is the, the sanctions that the government are putting on them. we are an island that has got the best, some of the best produce in the world, the best cattle, the best beef, the best dairy farms ever. >> but a lot of this is about handing their land back to the environment. >> exactly. so defra have then said, well, look, we can't let you have, we can't arable farm, you have, we can't arable farm, you can't cattle farm, you can't have dairy farms, you can't have, vegetables or the chinese be doing this. well who knows. well, they probably have, i will have. >> the point is nobody else is doing this . they're not doing it doing this. they're not doing it in brazil. they're not doing it in brazil. they're not doing it in china. they're not doing it in china. they're not doing it in india. but we should do it, shouldn't we? >> it's this net zero >> well, it's all this net zero nonsense. really nonsense. it really, really is.

and when we were talking about china before, i wanted to say, but didn't get time. but i didn't get the time. why are not holding china to are we not holding china to account net zero? why are we account for net zero? why are we building on infrastructure to try and deplete our. we're depleting our farming stock and our farming crops crops because of this? it's absolutely ridiculous. we have a difficult path to walk, don't they, though? >> i mean, as seeing as everyone's saying, speaking out against net zero, i'm going to put the other case, of course, isabel. you've got farmers isabel. and you've got farmers who slurry into our who are putting slurry into our rivers them. they've who are putting slurry into our rive a them. they've who are putting slurry into our rivea responsibility.. they've who are putting slurry into our rivea responsibility. theey've got a responsibility. the department environment, food got a responsibility. the depiruralnt environment, food got a responsibility. the depirural affairs, ivironment, food got a responsibility. the depirural affairs, to 'onment, food got a responsibility. the depirural affairs, to trynent, food got a responsibility. the depirural affairs, to try and , food and rural affairs, to try and clear our waterways. it's not clear up our waterways. it's not always like our always although we like our farmers, we want to support them. have be them. they also have to be responsible. do , they responsible. they do, they do. >> i think hands are >> but i think their hands are absolutely there's absolutely tied. there's no money working 70 money in it. they're working 70 hours week. in some places hours a week. in some places their hands are completely tied. they're they want they're not doing what they want to the other thing is, to do. and the other thing is, as us, consumers, we should as us, as consumers, we should be seasonally. be eating seasonally. >> and i think that's probably they were saying lot of they were saying that a lot of they were saying that a lot of the that where's the union the stuff that where's the union jack on the product that buy

jack on the product that you buy in supermarket actually in the supermarket is actually not farmed not necessarily british farmed meat or produce. i don't know how that's happened. >> i don't know how that's happening either with where it was well. happening either with where it wasthere's well. happening either with where it wasthere's cleverivell. happening either with where it wasthere's clever ways they can >> there's clever ways they can get round yeah, there's get round that. yeah, there's smart the supermarkets smart ways that the supermarkets do it's not the do that. actually it's not the farmers, the farmers, but it's the supermarkets. a specific supermarkets. there's a specific badge to look for badge you need to look for if it's produced uk. it's produced in the uk. >> so the supermarkets do >> so and the supermarkets do this like they give a this thing like they give it a lovely name, croft produce lovely name, croft farm produce or is. and it's from or whatever it is. and it's from an industrial exactly. an industrial estate. exactly. >> and there's free range eggs >> croft farm, such thing. >> croft farm, no such thing. >> croft farm, no such thing. >> nothing about them. >> nothing free about them. >> nothing free about them. >> this. obviously >> and this, this. obviously this unusual in europe this is not unusual in europe because there's been these protests across france and they i they went the eu, i think they went to the eu, they even putting manure out on they even putting manure out on the of paris . and so the streets of paris. and so, so this actually european wide this is actually a european wide thing press aren't thing and the press aren't paying thing and the press aren't paying attention. so i'm paying enough attention. so i'm really talking about it. >> absolutely. i am too. it. >> we .olutely. i am too. it. >> we .olutely. support». it. >> we .olutely. support our >> we need to support our farmers. the lifeblood farmers. they are the lifeblood of our we talk about inflation. food inflation is one of the worst parts of this whole worst hit parts of this whole there's for it in this country. >> and if we don't look after farmers all of the countryside

that all and enjoy and that we all love and enjoy and celebrate being our green and celebrate as being our green and pleasant land will be pleasant land will just be concreted turned into concreted over and turned into flats else and flats and whatever else and called racist. >> well , claire, what do you >> well, claire, what do you make of nadine dorries, front page of the papers , and she's page of the papers, and she's saying that why, at 66 years of age, are men suddenly telling her she is desirable? >> i know, i wonder where she finds these men. i wonder if she's on an app. >> i don't know. >> i don't know. >> her husband sadly passed away , a few years ago from cancer. so this is. that's actually one of the key factors on that article. they were saying that one of her mates said to her, well, why are you surprised, nadine, that men are finding you attractive, you've lost the grief. so it was as if she was saddled with grief and she wasn't giving the impression that she was out there. that she wanted to find love, and that she wanted to possibly marry again. she makes the comparison between fern britton between herself and fern britton , and the comparison between

herself helvin, who of herself and marie helvin, who of course, was girlfriend of mick jagger ' course, was girlfriend of mick jagger , so, you know, she's good jagger, so, you know, she's good luck to her. but the datings that some of the dates that she's been on sound absolutely disgusting, don't they, alex? they did? >> yeah. go on. >> can i just say that the bit that really got me. i think this is peak irony, right? she says right the this right at the end of this description she says, description of a date, she says, i three hours of my i just lost three hours of my life to him at a life sitting next to him at a dinner he talked endlessly dinner as he talked endlessly about favourite subject himself. >> thought, kettle, >> and i thought, hot kettle, nadine , i was you must nadine, i was like, you must have hated that date . have really hated that date. >> anyway, i thought that was great irony. >> one of the things she needs now a man is the at least now in a man is the at least that he has his own teeth. yeah. >> oh, no . >> oh, no. »- >> oh, no. >> standards are high. >> standards are high. >> claire, would you be interested in dating ? interested in dating? >> what you doing to me today? >> just asking you. >> just asking you. >> your single woman. >> your single woman. >> how do you know i'm single? >> how do you know i'm single? >> oh, i am anyway . >> oh, no, i am anyway. >> but would you be. >> but would you be. >> would you be interested in.

or could you just not be bothered? oh, no, of course. >> i mean, i'd love to find love and, you know, after reading the apps >> claire. >> claire. >> no, i am not. there's enough of without on of me online without me being on an i do think working in >> i do think working in television does make it particularly you do particularly hard. if you do want go an app. want to go on an app. >> well, yes, i agree, but i've ever dilemma nor that ever had this dilemma nor that you ever created. ever had this dilemma nor that youafter ever created. ever had this dilemma nor that youafter i ever created. ever had this dilemma nor that youafter i found:reated. ever had this dilemma nor that youafter i found my:ed. ever had this dilemma nor that youafter i found my husband . >> after i found my husband. >> after i found my husband. >> yes, legoland alton >> yes, legoland and alton towers , the owners plan to towers, the owners plan to charge more at peak times. what do you think about that, alex? >> yeah, this is like an uber for theme parks, isn't it? i mean, everyone seems to be doing this like, peak fare this new, like, peak time fare thing. they're all really, really haven't been really expensive. i haven't been for but the last time for years, but the last time i went, was like £50 a ticket. went, it was like £50 a ticket. and are kids. these are and these are kids. these are for i mean, the surge for kids. i mean, so the surge pricing thing, just think it's pricing thing, i just think it's just reason for poor just another reason for poor parents the parents who only get the weekends children weekends to take their children out to get planted out and now going to get planted with more but it with more, more money. but it just it just like another just it just seems like another way get to get money of way to get to get money out of people. i mean, i know they're suffering pandemic, suffering since the pandemic, these but mean, these theme parks. but i mean, come on.

these theme parks. but i mean, con no,n.think it's going to >> no, i think it's going to backfire actually, backfire on them, actually, because way it's because it's another way of it's another class system. really. yeah. mut'ah is yeah. i mean, they mut'ah is being surge pricing the way hotels do, the way cheap budget airlines do. but the reality is they are hitting those that can't afford it most. and it will be, you know, instead of giving parents the choice of the timing or the weather to go, they won't be able to because it will be defined by them . will be defined by them. >> okay. claire and alex, thank you very much indeed. we'll talk to you again in minutes time. to you again in 45 minutes time. >> show you these >> we want to show you these breaking pictures coming us breaking pictures coming into us from maryland in from baltimore, in maryland in the states. that's the the united states. that's the live picture, but will hopefully also be able to show you the moment. this 1.6 mile stretch of bndge moment. this 1.6 mile stretch of bridge collapsed after being struck by a container ship. a number of vehicles were on the bndge number of vehicles were on the bridge at the time. emergency services are in the water searching for people will have the latest for you throughout the latest for you throughout the program. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather

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declared china a threat to our national security. two individuals and one company are facing sanctions after the data of 40 million british voters was leaked . leaked. >> we're going to be talking about this live very shortly. critics include the former conservative leader iain duncan smith, who said the sanctions just go far enough . just don't go far enough. >> so i welcome these two sanctions from the government. it is a little bit this statement, like an elephant giving birth to a mouse . giving birth to a mouse. >> earlier we spoke to the secretary of state for education, gillian keegan. >> do take measured responses, but we do take response. and of course we will always be vigilant and always look to what we need to do. national security is the most important thing . is the most important thing. >> farmers fight back. tractors bnng >> farmers fight back. tractors bring chaos to westminster. as more than 100 gathered last night around parliament in protest over the lack of support

for food production in this country, and with more services than ever going online and more than ever going online and more than 2 million older people in the uk without access to the internet, we're asking our retirees , victims of online retirees, victims of online britain. >> that's our debate. this hour and bringing you that breaking news, what you're seeing here. >> these are just amazing pictures. baltimore usa, a container ship just watch this. it hits the bridge and it just crumples . and the casualties crumples. and the casualties involved in that, we'll bring that to you very, very shortly. yes, sir. sinner robert hur. >> and in the report this morning, huge game for wales tonight in cardiff. they beat poland there in the euros. england play belgium and scotland take on northern ireland in friendlies and andy murray has ruptured his talofibular ligament . it was talofibular ligament. it was pain like. probably a mouse giving to elephant . giving birth to an elephant. >> pudding. this week's unsettled theme continues today . unsettled theme continues today. most of us will see some rain at

some point. there will also be a bit of hill snow over the high ground of scotland. i'll have more details shortly. >> and these pictures overnight breaking news this morning. if you didn't believe what you saw, just watch again. this is baltimore, usa and that container ship hits that bridge. the bridge just crumples there. absolutely devastating to watch there. what's the news on, casualties on that one as well? >> the baltimore fire department is saying that this is a mass casualty incident. at the moment. they're working on the assumption at seven assumption that at least seven people water. i think people are in the water. i think we have to be grateful this happened at 1:35 am. local time. that had happened at rush houn time. that had happened at rush hour. would be an even more hour. it would be an even more serious casualty. total but at the moment they can't be sure exactly how many people are in the water. and of course, under the water. and of course, under the cover of darkness.

incredibly difficult, search and rescue mission underway there. but ship eamonn said, but a cargo ship as eamonn said, believed to have crashed into the 1.6 mile long francis scott key bridge took out the key bridge and took out the entire thing. so we're keeping a close eye on that developing story for you, and we'll bring you the latest if we hear any more, leading our news this morning. >> main story is china could be declared a national security threat after britain and america accused it of cyber attacks targeting personal information of politicians, of journalists and of millions of you ordinary voters . voters. >> well, the pressure is actually on to sanction china further after growing criticism of the government that it has not gone far enough . not gone far enough. >> joining us to discuss this, former head of counter—terrorism at the ministry of defence, major chip chapman and major general chip chapman and former mp , crossbench former liverpool mp, crossbench peer david alton and lord peer lord david alton and lord alton, if i could, could start with you. good morning to both of you, what's your own personal experience of all of this? well, three years ago yesterday, i was one of seven parliamentarians

who were sanctioned by the chinese communist party , and chinese communist party, and yesterday was one of four who were invited to meet with the security service to a confidential discussion about some of the threats that parliamentarians and the country are facing. >> i think the real concern i have having listened to the statement by oliver dowden yesterday, is that he said this was robust and he said it was a strong response, but it seemed to be neither of those things to me. it wasn't robust, it wasn't strong. he also said it was swift. well, it's three years since sanctions were imposed on parliamentarians , and ian duncan parliamentarians, and ian duncan smith has this metaphor smith has used this metaphor about the elephant giving birth to a mouse. well, it's a bit like if i can use a different metaphor, it's like closing the door once the horse has bolted. three years ago, many of us said the house of lords committee said intelligence and said the intelligence and security said that we security committee said that we had to china as a threat had to regard china as a threat and name it. >> so why hasn't it not been regarded as the threat you believe it actually is? and i put it to you. that is because

trade and china is worth too much to this country. >> yes, indeed. and as a point, i've regularly brought that i've regularly brought out that we ourselves so we have got ourselves so indebted we become indebted that we become dependent . do you know what the dependent. do you know what the trade this year is with trade deficit this year is with china? it's staggering £50 china? it's a staggering £50 billion. so they are 50 billion better off in this deal than we are . they are indeed. and if you are. they are indeed. and if you go back to covid, for instance, one example, we spent £13 billion on things that we could have bought within our own country, made in our own country, made in our own country, instead of which we bought the chinese bought from the chinese communist party's regime. and of course, of it's made by course, some of it's made by slave labour, exploited labour. so course can get it so of course you can get it cheap. look at what they've done in xinjiang. are a million in xinjiang. there are a million uighur incarcerated uighur muslims incarcerated there. they've done in there. look what they've done in hong they've hong kong where they've destroyed treaty destroyed not just a treaty made between and britain, an between china and britain, an international treaty . there are international treaty. there are 1700 political prisoners in the prisons in hong kong daily. there are threats to taiwan . you there are threats to taiwan. you think about the dreadful things that the chinese communist party is responsible for. and what do we in response? this is weak

we do in response? this is weak and hearted. and half hearted. >> in short, say half >> in short, you say half hearted. they're in short, this is all bluster, there is no structure to all of this. it's to make it look as if we care, as if we're upset about this. but actually, china holds all the trump cards. >> it's weak and it's limp . it's >> it's weak and it's limp. it's not a strategic response to what has happened. we've made ourselves dependent. we should be making ourselves resilient against the greatest threat this country faces. it's at the apex. china is at the apex of the threat, with it in the axis of authoritarian regimes are russia, north korea and iran. this represents an enormous threat to this country , and we threat to this country, and we needed more than the statement that we had in the house of commons yesterday to politics, though, doesn't it, in all of this, because it's not going to win elections if we're going to be financially worse off by cutting china in any harsher cutting off china in any harsher way have these way than we have with these very meagre sanctions, as you point out. >> you also looked at who's >> and you also looked at who's responsible for this? well, you've got lord who you've got lord cameron who cosied up them in the first

cosied up to them in the first place. he's not being, some place. he's not even being, some would say, democratically accountable, the accountable, not addressing the commons, attend the commons, even able to attend the house parliament. sorry, the house of parliament. sorry, the commons this. then you've commons on this. and then you've got former got rishi sunak, former chancellor, who's always worried about money and getting about the money and getting re—elected than perhaps re—elected rather than perhaps the interest. re—elected rather than perhaps the well, interest. re—elected rather than perhaps the well, that'serest. re—elected rather than perhaps the well, that's quite true. the >> well, that's quite true. the first minister sent to hong first minister we sent to hong kong a foreign minister kong wasn't a foreign minister a foreign office minister. it wasn't minister, it wasn't a defence minister, it wasn't a defence minister, it was trade minister. why are we was a trade minister. why are we trying to deepen trade with the chinese communist instead? chinese communist party instead? >> their foreign office >> because their foreign office counterpart missing . counterpart had gone missing. they a foreign they didn't have a foreign secretary china because secretary in china because they'd at one point. >> but we to we sent a trade mission to hong kong. >> this had nothing to do with whether they had a foreign minister or not. we were trying to deepen our trade just like the golden but david the golden age. but david cameron the past. cameron promoted in the past. it's to me that it's extraordinary to me that one of the four great offices of state, and i say this as someone who sat in both the commons and the held someone the lords, is held by someone in the lords, is held by someone in the it should be the house of lords. it should be held in the house commons. held in the house of commons. there are plenty of people. we heard sir iain duncan in heard sir iain duncan smith in

the news earlier on. he's a the news clip earlier on. he's a former leader of the conservative party. i'd much rather the helm, but rather see him at the helm, but there are other people. there are people who've prime are people who've been prime minister in the house of minister who sit in the house of commons. >> david cameron was prime >> well, david cameron was prime minister well, went minister as well, and he went for the chinese for a pint with the chinese president in oxford, he? president in oxford, didn't he? do those pictures do you think those pictures haunt him now? >> well, hope that they do, >> well, i hope that they do, because needs to both recant because he needs to both recant of that period, the golden era, which was anything but. and recognise that the indebtedness of china places of this nation to china places us in a parlous and perilous position. this is dangerous . it position. this is dangerous. it is a strategic threat and we should say so. should be in should say so. it should be in the as well, which the enhanced tier as well, which we've to do . we, you we've failed to do. we, you know, we make it up as we go along. the intelligence and security committee of parliament wrote report that was held wrote a report that was held back last year for months on end. finally, when was end. and finally, when it was published , it even named david published, it even named david cameron that report as saying cameron in that report as saying that the that he'd done in that the work that he'd done in building the belt road building up the belt and road initiatives, which been initiatives, which have been worth $1 trillion in debts to third world nations, money that is now no owed to the people's

repubuc is now no owed to the people's republic of china . david cameron republic of china. david cameron was personally involved in that. >> listen, now, as we bring in major general chip chapman on this one from a security point of view, all of this, major general, you've listened to what lord alton has had to say and what can we do , if anything, what can we do, if anything, that could be deemed as effective against china ? effective against china? >> well, it's used as a tool of subversive statecraft by china . subversive statecraft by china. the difficulty is often to do with attribution. so determining what machine or networks have done the attacks is challenging at the best of times. and a hacker or intrusive operator can mask that. so you often have plausible deniability. now, we know that china do this on a regular basis, and advanced persistent threats were mentioned in terms of the reconnaissance of the parliamentarians. that is very dangerous because of course, they can micro—target it as they attempted to do , for example, attempted to do, for example, with other other forms in

cambridge analytica in 2016, whereas our , security agencies whereas our, security agencies have to work within a legal, ethical and regulatory framework, the chinese don't do that. so they can micro—target, for example, in the next election in constituencies to remove people who are critical to them, such as iain duncan smith. so we can defend forward actively and the uk, gchq and the american nsa are cyber superpower powers which in extremis could degrade a defeat and disrupt the chinese networks themselves. >> are you, in effect, saying there that you don't think we're going to face a fair election in this country in 2024 because of the cyber threat? quite an extraordinary thing to say . extraordinary thing to say. >> well, if you look at why the electoral commission was hacked, the big thing about data is not just data came from just the data which came from the electoral commission, it's metadata, is the thing metadata, which is the thing which concerns us. that's which always concerns us. that's data about data. and more data about data. and the more data about data. and the more data have on people , the

data you have on people, the more you can influence those people. this microtargeting people. by this microtargeting either via social media, disinformation and like disinformation and things like that. if you had a number of that. so if you had a number of vociferous critics of the chinese in various constituencies , there could be constituencies, there could be that micro—targeting in those areas because it's only really sort of generally about 5% of people who change their minds in elections, which could alter the outcome of a constituency election. >> the measures that were announced by oliver dowden yesterday done enough, do you think, to now make our elections this year free fair ? this year free and fair? >> probably not. but the, the, security agencies , agencies will security agencies, agencies will be looking into the intrusion of these networks. it's very difficult to do because it's, you know, it's networked, it's servers , it's software, it's servers, it's software, it's hardware. it's a contested environment . and the internet environment. and the internet and the architecture of the internet was never designed to be contested. that's the big weakness of it, chip , china can weakness of it, chip, china can do what it wants. absolutely do what it wants. you heard, lord alton talk about the 50 billion trade deficit with them. we're

in financial hock to them. they own half of this country. you look at london, they own. so much of that as well, we look at the covid situation . it seems to the covid situation. it seems to be widely accepted that it originated in a lab in china , originated in a lab in china, and no one has done anything about it. i mean, i think that's more important than than interfering with, with elections , even. but no one has said to china, oh , what was all that china, oh, what was all that about? we knew you were behind it. and nobody is saying or doing anything about it or holding them accountable. so they win. they win and they know they're going to win everything. yeah. >> well, they're they're internal problems in china at the moment. and the big thing for china is always that it needs to sort of create 25 million new jobs a year, the nofion million new jobs a year, the notion that it's going to surpass the us in terms of its economy is looking more fragile. so it has its challenges , which so it has its challenges, which it may have to sort of slightly ameliorate its position . but

ameliorate its position. but let's be clear, the chinese communist party is there to make sure its rule endures. we'll do anything to make sure that happensin anything to make sure that happens in the future. so it's always going to be something which is malign. it is this sort of pinnacle of what we would call crank countries china, call the crank countries china, russia, iran, north korea as the sort of face of the authoritarian regimes which will seek challenge the seek to challenge us in the future. there weaknesses, future. there are weaknesses, i don't for example , that don't think, for example, that the davidson window, as call the davidson window, as we call it, potential invasion of it, a potential invasion of taiwan, anywhere near and taiwan, is anywhere near and there real challenges to there are real challenges to that in terms of all the military aspects about counter submarine warfare, mine warfare, all the rest of it. so they're not as strong as they appear to be. they are weaker than they appear to be. the belt and road initiative is not as strong as it was. people are sort of waking up to the indebtedness of the and road initiative the belt and road initiative bnngs the belt and road initiative brings. don't paint china as brings. so don't paint china as a country. it's really not. it's a country. it's really not. it's a malign country. it's not as strong as we often think. >> chip, thank you very much indeed. lord alton, final word to you about where we're at and

where we're going on this. >> well, first we do have to see, as we've just heard, the strategic nature of the threat thatis strategic nature of the threat that is facing us, we must do more with our allies. >> for instance, the government announced yesterday a couple of more sanctions. there have been no officials in hong kong sanctioned. our united states allies sanctioned over 47. allies have sanctioned over 47. why aren't we doing these things together ? why aren't we working together? why aren't we working more closely with. why aren't we? why aren't we? well, if you take the example of huawei or hikvision, of which i hikvision, both of which i raised, course, parliament raised, of course, in parliament at time, we went ahead and at the time, we went ahead and did those things it did those things because it suhed did those things because it suited the train that was suited the gravy train that was moving. a consequence of moving. and as a consequence of that, taxpayers in that, it's cost taxpayers in this country vast sums of money to out of it. the same will to get out of it. the same will be true of electric and the be true of electric cars and the batteries everything else batteries and everything else that going to and that china is going to try and flood with, some of flood our markets with, some of it slave labour, it made by slave labour, if goods least to be marked, goods at least had to be marked, for instance, as made in a state accused by the house of commons of committing genocide and made by labour, at least by slave labour, at least consumers to

consumers would be able to decide whether wanted to decide whether they wanted to buy not, lastly, buy them or not, just lastly, does minister need to does the prime minister need to come call china a threat come out and call china a threat instead of a challenge? >> does. >> yes he does. >> yes he does. >> thank you very much. >> thank you very much. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. your views very welcome . views gbnews.com. welcome. gb views gbnews.com. other coming into the other stories coming into the newsroom on this tuesday morning, the francis scott key bridge in baltimore in america has collapsed. this was at 1:35 am. local time, hit by a cargo ship , and a am. local time, hit by a cargo ship, and a lot of that cargo spilled into the water. emergency services are at the scene searching for seven people believed to have fallen into the river. the baltimore city fire department has called it a developing mass casualty event . developing mass casualty event. >> a convoy of more than 100 tractors made its way through westminster yesterday to save british farming. they say there's a lack of support for uk food production. the action follows months of protests from

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for people who think like that. she says just get on with it. she says just get on with it. she says just get on with it. she says retirees , just should she says retirees, just should go digital. and there's former go digital. and there's a former head teacher friend of the programme. lovely to see chris mcgovern there who disagrees. chris, what are the, what are the problems that you think face older people on a on a daily basis? and i think a lot of people will identify by with you here on this one. what have you got to tell us? >> well, let me say first of all, that this, this so—called older generation is a very resilient generation . it's not resilient generation. it's not going to be looking to be called victims, although in some ways they are, because the modern digital age is to some extent pass them by. so as you have mentioned , if they want to make mentioned, if they want to make a doctor's appointment, often they have to go online. if they want to go to a bank, the bank, high street bank is closed. they have it online. they want have to do it online. they want to the car. they need the to park the car. they need the right app. so there's quite a lot to cope with there. and

look, there are some older people and generation have no problems, but i think age uk have are have raised these issues, are concerned about fact that to concerned about the fact that to some an older generation some extent an older generation is marginalised also is being marginalised and also they likely to be they are more likely to be scammed. about a million older people each year. people are scammed each year. they're of that crime. they're victims of that crime. so not looking for so we're not looking for victimhood in that sense, you know. pie is know. but the victimhood pie is very, large. so there's very, very large. so if there's a pie to go around, why can't older people have a share of that pie as well? so there is a problem here. and i we problem here. and i think we should as should recognise this as a problem. but look, older people are but we only look are resilient but we only look after oh don't feel that after them. oh i don't feel that old but don't old myself. but yeah, i don't mind to. mind being looked after to. >> well, bring in anne in >> well, let's bring in anne in all of this. i'm interested to hear you say because you hear what you say because you think people need to get on with it. i'm 41 and there are certain texts that hard. i've got texts that i find hard. i've got an old son he was an eight year old son he was showing other day how to showing me the other day how to use the apps via my remote on the tv, and i'm thinking i'm the tv, and i'm thinking if i'm struggling at 41, it struggling with this at 41, it is a problem. acknowledge is a problem. do you acknowledge there in this there are challenges in this area? anne? >> well, all, i think >> well, first of all, i think you should stop lumping all old

folk together. is an folk together. there is an enormous difference between somebody who almost somebody in their 60s who almost certainly from the of certainly comes from the age of computers at and somebody computers at work, and somebody in who are struggling in their 90s, who are struggling a l in their 90s, who are struggling a , whose brains don't work a bit, whose brains don't work quite as fast as they used to and who fear the new technology now. so there's an enormous difference . i'm sick of hearing, difference. i'm sick of hearing, you pensioners as if we're you know, pensioners as if we're all, you know, in the last stage of doddering us. i mean , that is of doddering us. i mean, that is the first thing. the second thing this, the very thing is this, the very sophisticated stuff, obviously, you you wouldn't expect you know, you wouldn't expect them to do. but online banking, for example, is fairly simple. it can be mastered most over. not all. i'm the first to say that, but most old folk have access to the younger generation who can show them and show them what to do, and so i think we do have to get on with it. i remember when computers were first coming in in, in the sense of becoming utterly normal in offices. i can remember a fellow mp, the late andrew rose, saying to me , and if we don't learn

to me, and if we don't learn this stuff, we're going to be like the maiden aunts of our youth who hadn't learned to drive . and he was right. drive. and he was right. >> so, anne, do you learn it or are you taught it? do you have a go to professional who can show you things, or a friend? do you? who do you rely on, if at all? >> i rely almost 100% on a go to professional who can come into my screen and sort out all the messes there, but i learn myself how to use the basic stuff . i how to use the basic stuff. i mean, i do my own online banking, i, you know, i can fill in forms online. what i do think is that firms don't make it easy for people, you know, sometimes you can't go back on a form to correct something that you've done. and you sit there thinking, well, you know, what can i do? they don't make it easy for people. and therefore i do think, that would be much do think, that it would be much kinder to have always to have a telephone option there not to get out of the form, but to be

able to telephone somebody to say, i've got a problem with this form . and i think there is this form. and i think there is a big difference between the two, between saying, i don't want to do this and between saying, i've got a problem and an what if it was hmrc we hear now they're going to be closed for extended summer period. now they're going to be closed for youextended summer period. now they're going to be closed for you can't ed summer period. now they're going to be closed for you can't speaknmer period. now they're going to be closed for you can't speak to er period. now they're going to be closed for you can't speak to a period. now they're going to be closed for you can't speak to a human >> you can't speak to a human being. all online. you being. it's all online. you wouldn't have let that happen, wouldn't have let that happen, would you? when in government? >> down >> calm down dear. >> calm down dear. >> actually reversed that. >> they actually reversed that. that invention so think we that invention. so i think we should all all not not to start alarming people, that that is going to happen , but actually going to happen, but actually hmrc is a very good example. i used to do my own vat online. there's the whole thing. never made a mistake as far as i know. and then they changed all the software. yeah. and i said to my accountant what do i do about this software? and he said, forget it, we'll do it for you. >> well, chris, what do you see? i mean, there must be hurdles out there. you look at every day, every every month, day, every week, every month, and thinking , day, every week, every month, and thinking, i'm going and you're thinking, i'm going to a cropper on this to come a cropper on on this one. what do you worry about?

what think you've what do you think you've learned? you've got right. learned? do you've got right. and what and then then it changes. what are for you in day are the concerns for you in day to day life? >> let me say first of all, i used to teach seven and eight year olds how to use a computer. it can be done and is of course a very bright lady. she's an oxford graduate and not everybody's been to oxford and is highly bright. yeah, i remember my mum, own remember my own mum, my own mother, called dorothy mother, who was called dorothy dot used to ask me 20 years ago, who this.com person then? now who is this.com person then? now what an entirely stupid look. the fact is, anne's right . there the fact is, anne's right. there are differences between different people, and the tragedy not the tragedy is it's not the alternative. we do want the tax office have a telephone line. office to have a telephone line. we the street banks to we want the high street banks to be open. and technology has changed. but look, we mustn't run all the people. on the run down all the people. on the whole, according to international older international surveys, older generation educated generation are better educated than the younger generation. we spend time telling the spend all our time telling the younger get off younger generation to get off the internet, and now we're telling old generation, get the internet, and now we're telthe old generation, get the internet, and now we're telthe internet.]eneration, get the internet, and now we're telthe internet. weeration, get the internet, and now we're telthe internet. we doion, get the internet, and now we're telthe internet. we do need et the internet, and now we're telthe internet. we do need to on the internet. we do need to help older people, give them training, as training, give them support as far anne is

far as we can. but anne is right. it varies from person to person, but not all as bright as anne. that's problem. my mom anne. that's the problem. my mom wasn't that. wasn't like that. >> yeah, you know, you >> yeah, chris, you know, you being school teacher that being the school teacher that you talk about so you are, and we talk about so many subjects on the program. but anne, younger people , but anne, i find younger people, let's say people 40 and under , let's say people 40 and under, their lack of knowledge and general knowledge is really quite disturbing . and it makes quite disturbing. and it makes me think that they did not learn in school the way we, learned things. and, and i don't know , things. and, and i don't know, they have a different knowledge than us. they have a different expertise. chris was saying there, but are we are there, but we are we are different. i mean, i would i would be to take on any, would be happy to take on any, person younger than me, like, significantly younger than me, on a on a quiz show on who wants to be a millionaire or whatever it happens to be, because they just have an interest, just don't have an interest, never mind the knowledge . never mind the knowledge. >> no. and i suspect one of the

problems is that when they do acquire knowledge, they acquire it through the internet. now if you go to a library and find a book and look it up and make notes, it tends to go in. if all you do is just throw it up on the screen and then it's gone. when you've no further use for it, it doesn't tend to be retained, and i'm sure that that is one of the reasons why young people sometimes just don't seem to have the breadth of knowledge. but the other is, you know, curriculum has changed know, the curriculum has changed completely , chris know as completely, chris will know as a teacher, know, there's teacher, you know, there's a great deal of time spent on great deal of time now spent on what we would once have called non as opposed to, you non subjects as opposed to, you know, details of history know, the details of history or whatever . and look, know, the details of history or whatever. and look, i'm not saying expect everybody saying that i expect everybody to able to cope with every to be able to cope with every last aspect of the internet. i don't , i don't, but i think that don't, i don't, but i think that most people , certainly below the most people, certainly below the age of, of mid 80s, can be taught to handle the basic stuff which you might need every day . which you might need every day. it's all very well, chris saying the bank should stay open, but why should they maintain these

premises, , you know, premises, when, you know, decreasing numbers of people are using them, for the simple reason that most of us are taking them much simpler option of doing it online. i don't get this. i don't get why they've got an obligation to meet our reluctance to learn, i have to say , lots of people over the age say, lots of people over the age of 65 getting in touch via email i >> -- >> so they've mastered that this morning. and thank you both. chris mcgovern and ann widdecombe for that debate this morning. just want to read a little selection of these. ellen miles, about to turn miles, emailed i'm about to turn 80. happy birthday to you. people learned how to use people my age learned how to use computers in the early 1980s, so stop making out. we don't know what we're talking about when it comes , this one's comes to computers, this one's from bernard carney. they from bernard carney. when they first was easier to first came out, it was easier to understand how to use them. now they change the apps to make confusing. want confusing. so they don't want you what you're doing. you to know what you're doing. thatis you to know what you're doing. that is true. they do continually change and adapt, don't of you don't they? anyway, lots of you getting touch. it's obviously getting in touch. it's obviously an point this an interesting point this morning. those thoughts morning. keep those thoughts coming in. we'll and find

coming in. we'll try and find some read out some more some time to read out some more in bit. some time to read out some more in right now we'll find time for >> right now we'll find time for the weather with alex. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar, sponsors weather on . solar, sponsors of weather on. gb news. >> morning. here's your latest gb news weather update brought to you by the met office. there will be some dry weather around today, but also a swathe of rain pushing way northwards, and pushing its way northwards, and this morning do have some this morning we do have some outbreaks showery rain across outbreaks of showery rain across parts scotland, bit of parts of scotland, with a bit of sleet snow over the higher sleet or snow over the higher ground. the brightest weather this morning across this morning will be across parts of england, the parts of northern england, the midlands anglia, midlands and into east anglia, but is going to turn but here it is going to turn cloudier as we through the cloudier as we go through the day, a bit of rain pushing day, with a bit of rain pushing in as swathe of rain across in as this swathe of rain across southern parts gradually makes its we go its way northwards as we go through the day. also, some outbreaks rain across parts outbreaks of rain across parts of northern ireland, and temperatures will temperatures for many of us will be a little bit below be around or a little bit below average for the time of year, especially across parts of scotland. bit of a chilly feel scotland. a bit of a chilly feel here we go through the end of scotland. a bit of a chilly feel hereday. ne go through the end of scotland. a bit of a chilly feel hereday. theo through the end of scotland. a bit of a chilly feel hereday. the wetrough the end of scotland. a bit of a chilly feel hereday. the wet weather; end of scotland. a bit of a chilly feel hereday. the wet weather acrossyf the day. the wet weather across

much will feed much of england will feed further northwards, a pretty further northwards, so a pretty wet to the day across wet end to the day across northern and a wet northern england and then a wet night for much of scotland. and as rain the high as that rain hits the high ground the highlands, the ground over the highlands, the grampians, see grampians, we are likely to see some further snow. some further hill snow. something a clearer something a bit clearer following behind. so following in behind. so temperatures bit of temperatures taking a bit of a dip, many places falling to low to figures but quite dip, many places falling to low tcfew figures but quite dip, many places falling to low tcfew places figures but quite dip, many places falling to low tcfew places waking; but quite dip, many places falling to low tcfew places waking upit quite dip, many places falling to low tcfew places waking up t0|uite a few places waking up to a bright start on wednesday, particularly across central parts england. however parts of england. however towards western areas, southwestern here will southwestern parts here we will have some heavy blustery showers, could have a bit of thunder mixed in with these as they gradually make their way northeastwards. temperatures again for the again around average for the time year, perhaps a little time of year, perhaps a little bit below, it is going to be bit below, but it is going to be a touch milder than today for many albeit quite many of us, albeit quite blustery

>> andy murray. never hurry a murray. paul. tellus. >> well, you can't really hurry in when he's got this. got this

bad ankle. yeah, because we saw him yesterday playing in miami and it looked like he'd hurt himself. and he's really hurt himself. and he's really hurt himself. i mean, it looked like at the time it was pretty nasty. and he managed to play on. so here we are. this is him playing yesterday getting knocked out of the do you reckon than >> do you reckon worse than initially reported . initially reported. >> well it is. i know for >> well there it is. i know for a fact. see the thing is he then got up from that. >> yeah. and on. >> yeah. and played on. >> yeah. and played on. >> two ligaments in >> he's torn two ligaments in his we're expected at his ankle. so we're expected at least weeks out. full rupture least 12 weeks out. full rupture of the tello fibula ligament. you know it's one of my favourite ligaments. that one is it. yeah. it's one of my favourites, you know. >> i can't stand footballers >> and i can't stand footballers when they're obviously injured and and when they're obviously injured and know and when they're obviously injured and know they're and when they're obviously injured and know they're not and when they're obviously injured and know they're not goingind when they're obviously injured and know they're not going to you know they're not going to run it for anything else. i run it off for anything else. i just think get off, get off. hold on. >> when they are injured or they're pretending to be injured. >> no, they are injured. right. that because, you that annoys me because, you know, the liability to that annoys me because, you kno team, the liability to that annoys me because, you knoteam, right?3 liability to the team, right? >> like, oh, and then >> it's like, oh, and then decide i'm going to play on. yeah. though i'm injured. yeah. even though i'm injured. yeah. even though i'm injured. yeah. absolutely correct. yeah i agree deducted

agree nottingham forest deducted four independent four points after an independent commission their commission found that their losses the 2223 year breached losses in the 2223 year breached the threshold. >> now is this a this is a new deduction . deduction. >> it's not a new deduction. it's just that they are now going to appeal. oh right okay. as far as the appeal is concerned . and they hope that concerned. and they hope that the appeal will be sorted out before the end of the season. because as i've mentioned before , is that the actual date it's going to be all done and dusted. it's may the 24th after the season's ended, which means possibly that nottingham forest could down if the deduction could go down if the deduction stands and they could stay up if they take it away. so really it's left really. we want everything sorted by the end of the season. well we do it could run and run. >> say you're a team like luton who could stay up or if the deduction is, negated then they go down. >> yeah it's like var but even worse because you can't celebrate until the decision has been made. so we just have to

watch that one very carefully. but we expect more on that at night. >> tonight you've got wales against poland which will get them into the euros if they win this. they've got this is such an important game for them. >> is a huge game for wales. >> it is a huge game for wales. so they're playing in cardiff which a advantage. which is a great advantage. poland robert lewandowski matty cash cash from cash you know matty cash from aston plays for poland . aston villa plays for poland. although i don't know whether he's today because he's going to play today because he's going to play today because he an in last he got an injury in the last game when played and they game when they played and they won one. to get to won five one. to actually get to this game. finland or is it. no, finland was wales, it was estonia. or sorry that they estonia. that or sorry that they got through matty got through but but matty cash it's really interesting because he poland although he plays for poland although he's not essentially it's he's not essentially polish it's his maternal left his maternal grandfather left poland 82 years ago, so he decided that he would like to play decided that he would like to play for poland. because he probably thought maybe, you know, am i going to get to play for england? maybe poland? so he actually went to them and said, went the ea. and went to the polish ea. and said, i'll be said, you know, i'll be interested playing. no, we interested in playing. no, we don't you changing. don't want you changing. president then came and said, president then came in and said, actually, we actually, yeah, we are interested playing for

interested in you playing for poland. now a poland. so he's now become a poush poland. so he's now become a polish citizen about 2 or 3 years ago and will play for poland. and the first time he played poland first played for poland was the first time to time he'd actually been to poland. often see it in poland. so we often see it in other sports going the other way. >> and jack charlton was the master of all. >> he was the master. >> he was the master. >> he was the master. >> he could see people in the irish team and then you'd interview them and they'd have a luton know. yeah luton accent, you know. yeah >> thing is, you go, >> and the thing is, you go, what the go, well, what is the link? go, well, i did go to dublin once on my houday did go to dublin once on my holiday holidays. that's good enough. the so enough. you're in the team. so anyway, whether going to anyway, he whether he's going to play anyway, he whether he's going to play we'll see. but huge play or not, we'll see. but huge game. so we wish wales well. they've got young side they've got a very young side and to win this game and they need to win this game tonight get the euros in tonight to get to the euros in germany in the summer. now england in england play belgium in a friendly, one that i friendly, the other one that i want talk about, which we want to talk about, which we haven't mentioned, scotland, northernwould be a good one to >> that would be a good one to watch tonight. >> yeah, just like the old home nations, because miss nations, because i miss the. i wish they'd bring a bit tough game. will be a tough game. game. it will be a tough game. >> i say tough i mean >> when i say tough i mean physically >> when i say tough i mean phyohilly i should say so. >> oh yeah, i should say so. i mean scotland lost to the

netherlands or holland as we used them in the old used to call them in the old days, they lost three nil. i think ireland got a11 draw, didn't they? i think they got a11 draw they just a11 draw when they played, just the it's going to the other day. so it's going to be interesting game. and the be an interesting game. and the other one, the other really interesting is, is interesting friendly is, is actually netherlands actually the netherlands are going playing germany going to be playing germany tonight. there's real old tonight. now there's a real old rivalry back the 74 rivalry there back to the 74 world cup final. germany have got a new so you got a new shirt. so you think that got problems that england have got problems with and the with their shirt and all the controversy about about the controversy about the about the saint george's flag, have a look at this one. we've got the we've got the nice dirty shirt. this is advert. are we is their advert. what are we thinking very german. >> doesn't look very german. i have to say, it's not what i would associate with germany, which either be the green which will either be the green and white or white and black or. >> exactly. they're going with the now there's thomas the pink. now there's thomas muller , legendary buying. look, muller, legendary buying. look, we've got some subtitles there. and that people and he's saying that people aren't it. that's rudi aren't liking it. that's rudi voller, he's going, well voller, because he's going, well , german legends, know, and , german legends, you know, and rudi says, yeah, rudi voller says, yeah, of course says, i like it very much. >> isabel knows these things. but isabel, why? mean, but isabel, why? when? i mean,

paul very interesting paul raised a very interesting point when i call holland, as we used to call it, netherlands. >> well , i'll used to call it, netherlands. >> well, i'll tell you this. >> well, i'll tell you this. >> in or the >> in holland or the netherlands, they still call their team holland their football team holland because up. holland. because they go up. holland. >> yeah. holland is >> holland. yeah. and holland is part netherlands. for part of the netherlands. but for some have start some reason we have to start calling it the football calling it in the football context. >> but in holland they still call in case it's call it holland in case it's offensive to the indigenous population. >> that we actually don't >> is that why we actually don't know specifics behind know the specifics behind it? >> drawn a blank, so >> holland is drawn a blank, so therefore i you know, i'm happy with but i don't want with holland, but i don't want to, in to, you know, get myself in trouble holland, trouble by saying, holland, where ever get where would you ever get yourself in trouble? >> well, have done quite a few >> well, i have done quite a few times. well you've got yourself through morning. through this morning. >> reported yet. if >> no trouble reported yet. if you've any trouble again. you've had any trouble again. >> trouble a pink >> any trouble where a pink football shirt. >> you know what you like a man in pink shirt. in a pink shirt. >> i a man in a pink shirt. >> i love a man in a pink shirt. >> i love a man in a pink shirt. >> i love a man in a pink shirt. >> i don't know whether it's for me. it's the german thing. i'm looking at history because, like a shirt. okay, i can a traditional shirt. okay, i can see they to go with pink. see they want to go with pink. that's i pink. that's fine, but it's i pink. that's fine, but it's i pink. that's it's not. that that's a no. it's not. is that what i'm saying i think i don't

know. >> yeah okay. well we'll see how it sells okay. and then thank you. you have any complaints you. if you have any complaints about share them about paul, please do share them with would tell with us. we would love to tell my mum. with us. we would love to tell my very i. with us. we would love to tell my very good. >> very good. >> very good. >> thank you, my friend. thank you.thank you. thank you. >> stay with us. we're going to be johnny mercer. >> stay with us. we're going to be he johnny mercer. >> stay with us. we're going to behe a johnny mercer. >> stay with us. we're going to behe a bit johnny mercer. >> stay with us. we're going to behe a bit of johnny mercer.

next. we've got these spectacular pictures. just absolutely amazing , breaking news for us amazing, breaking news for us this morning. just have a look at this bridge. this is in baltimore, usa. you're seeing a container ship, just driving into it , it's like, you know, into it, it's like, you know, isabel, when you see people who drive double decker buses or articulated lorries and they go under tunnels or bridges, and you say, how did they not see that? >> yeah. well, look, it looks like lego collapsing there, but what you're seeing is 1.6 miles of the francis scott key bridge, and it had a number of vehicles

on it. it was thankfully 130 in the morning, but as you see, it was just like a domino. it just the whole thing just collapsed, so the fire department, the baltimore fire department saying this developing mass this is a developing mass casualty incident, but because it's because still it's dark, because it's still night time, that search and rescue operation, incredibly challenging, and so we are trying to keep people up to date on that story this morning, really shocking pictures, to be honest . honest. >> right, let's go through, what the talking points are of the morning. we say hello. good morning. we say hello. good morning to claire muldoon. we say hello. good morning to mr alex armstrong. good morning. good morning. seeing you good morning. nice seeing you there. secret court there. so, claire, secret court for speeding and tv fines must end. what is. what is this? >> secret court and the magistrates courts and the justice of peace courts in this country do menial court cases like traffic offences and tv licensing stuff and everything. >> but what they found is that they are actually criminalising those in society that are most

vulnerable, because it's a very faceless thing. it's someone sitting in an office with the justices sitting there. right. and they get the paperwork through . okay. they haven't paid through. okay. they haven't paid their fine. they've been caught. they've this they've been they've been this they've been that then rubber that 90s sometimes. then rubber stamped away. it goes to fines and often bailiffs. they're the justices themselves and the magistrates who are like people, normal people. they're not legally trained. anyone can apply legally trained. anyone can apply to be a magistrate. and for a postscript here, footnote i think it's a great thing that normal people are magistrates where it's almost like a jury. however, they have now said that they are not comfortable with, criminal izing people without without status, without evidence, and without any form of legal advice given to the person who is sitting or the paperwork sitting at their court for goodness sake, you know, pay £60 and get it over and done with. >> you know what? >> you know what? >> £60 might actually be a lot of money to people. it's a day rate or minimum wage, i know.

>> but in other words, what you're doing is you're just complicating and tying things up you're doing is you're just comjrediting and tying things up you're doing is you're just comjred tape.ind tying things up you're doing is you're just comjred tape.ind tsog things up you're doing is you're just comjred tape.ind tso itthings up you're doing is you're just comjred tape.ind tso it goes; up with red tape. and so it goes again. the costs for legal again. and the costs for legal representation far outweigh the seriousness of the offence. >> well, well, look, tv licensing right for the bbc are often the statistics are there and they show that people, vulnerable people in society, single parents and often people with disabilities who can't pay are actually because they are the ones that are at home. >> that answer the door isn't the issue and they're being done.the the issue and they're being done. the bbc and the way that they are perhaps not looking after some of their vulnerable customers, rather than these volunteers, justices in the way that the of judicial that the sort of judicial process is happening. >> because, as eamonn points out, we've already an out, we've already got an overcrowded judicial system. we don't space, we don't don't have the space, we don't have people, we don't have the people, we don't have the resources. the only people who to gain from who would stand to gain from this be the lawyers. this would be the lawyers. frankly >> well, exactly. >> well, exactly. >> well, exactly. >> well, well, not, >> well, well, maybe not, because there's people who are in, it's a shame they in, you know, it's a shame they don't answer the door don't want to answer the door because of bailiffs coming. this

perpetuate s society that is frightened under the cosh . frightened and under the cosh. >> oh listen on my instagram alex. this is what gets on my thruppence. and there are people who send up drones, right? so they go over police station or an army base and they send up these drones, and then a guard comes out right, and says, what are you doing, sir? you're not allowed to do this ministry of defence property. oh, i think you'll find it's my legal right. i can fly anything over bodmin moor do anything moor and you can't do anything about now you see somebody about it. now you see somebody like put in prison like that? i would put in prison for minimum 17 years. >> , you know, no messing about. >> that's it. you know, you should not be filming over security, prisons, security, police, prisons, anything like that. but they do their jobs worse, aren't they? >> these these people, they like to put. i think they do for to put. i think they do it for the, the online sort of the notoriety. yeah. the notoriety. yeah. absolutely. right >> and then the other people, i would immediately jail , are would immediately jail, are litter lights. >> oh they firing squad >> oh they were firing squad yesterday . yesterday. >> well i'll put them in firing

squad. i'm happy to do that as well. today you've got a you understand the, the police force in this country can't find people or men who throw acid and women, they can bloomin well women, but they can bloomin well find you've got find you if you've got a speeding fine or an unpaid parking fine. >> yeah . shocking, let's talk >> yeah. shocking, let's talk about. >> yeah. shocking, let's talk aboit. just told on let me >> i was just told on let me litter. yeah, yeah. >> so important. right. so i was watching a bbc northern ireland news last night, litters, volunteers , which i find volunteers, which i find amazing. people are volunteers and go out and they collect and they go out and they collect all this, and i'm going to become president of a litter society generally for nationally, the country . but nationally, for the country. but i just do not understand what is in anyone's head that is in a car, particularly . they'll be in car, particularly. they'll be in a car probably with their kids or whatever, and everything goes out the window. >> oh it's disgusting. >> oh it's disgusting. >> i remember when i was a kid and we threw a lollipop stick out of the car. my dad would stop the car and you'd have to get out and pick with get out and pick it up with a lollipop stick, and that stuck with and you do it

with you and you didn't do it ever again. so the fines for litter, desecration , open litter, desecration, open defaecation, whatever you want to call it. >> let's not go down that road. there's a lot that. there's a lot of that. >> do you know what defaecation is thing. oh is an interesting thing. oh even. you, this even. no, i'm telling you, this litter last night, litter report last night, apparently, pee and do apparently, people pee and do other things into jars and receptacles. >> and then i'm afraid i've got a story about this. don't worry. no, it's not gruesome. but when it was a correspondent out on the road and i went to do a vox p0p, the road and i went to do a vox pop, was when you go and try to speak to people. i went to a service station, easton, in gordano in the west country. everyone knows it's where the m5 reaches bristol and there's a kind of hgv park area there, and i those trousers that i had those long trousers that were on at the time that were trendy on at the time that touched the floor, and i went and interviewed these lorry and interviewed all these lorry drivers great and drivers and it was all great and had the material wanted had all the material i wanted for that evening for my report. that evening i got back into the car and i was like, what's that smell? and i looked down and my trousers had soaked from ground. soaked up urine from the ground. >> your urine? no, i >> was this your urine? no, i guess sure. guess sure. >> guess sure. >> it claire? >> was it claire? >> was it claire? >> arrived back. >> she arrived back. >> she arrived back. >> that's a very irish

pronunciation. urine urine, urine. >> listen, here's a lovely thing. talking about being wet, singing in the rain. yes it does make you happy again. now, i have to say, one of the most glorious. the film's not that great, but the actual scene of gene kelly. >> kelly dancing in the rain is absolutely beautiful. >> it is absolutely stunning. so it is with the music and whatever. tell us why that actually does make you happy again, because the negative ions in the air which we breathe in actually make us happy . actually make us happy. >> so reports have said that singing in the rain might be the perfect way to cheer us up. they say go for a run in the rain. go for a walk in the rain. go for a swim in the rain. and it's good for your mental health. >> hang minute. what are >> hang on a minute. what are these they're good these ions? they're good negative ions. negative ions of ions. >> yeah. >> yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah. >> don't they sell that in >> why don't they sell that in a bottle? well they do, they just wait for the rain to come and then you can bottle it up. >> and i'm sorry, i've never under rock. >> and i'm sorry, i've never unci've rock. >> and i'm sorry, i've never unci've literally heard >> i've literally never heard of

this a for mental health problems. >> you will have heard of this, right? dee dee dee dee dee dee dee dee dee dee dee dee dee dee dee dee dee dee dee dee dee dee dee dee dee dee dee dee dee dee dee dee dee dee dee i'm singing in the rain . in the rain. >> just singing in the rain. what a glorious feel . feeling what a glorious feel. feeling i'm happy again , again. i'm happy again, again. >> watching gb news lviv. everybody >> very well done, very well done. >> why are you in the choir this morning? >> oh, sorry. >> oh, sorry. >> we were. the show got too many negative. plenty over there. plenty of negative ions here. >> we say. thank you very much indeed, claire muldoon. >> come and see you again soon. doom and gloom. >> and alex armstrong, always a pleasure. pleasure. >> thank very indeed. pleasure. pleasure. >> we're very indeed. pleasure. pleasure. >> we're going ery indeed. pleasure. pleasure. >> we're going to' indeed. pleasure. pleasure. >> we're going to see indeed. pleasure. pleasure. >> we're going to see whatieed. >> we're going to see what negative there are out negative ions there are out there. and if should go there. and if you should go dancing singing in it with alex. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of

whether on gb news. >> morning. here's your latest gb news weather update brought to you by the met office. there will be some dry weather around today, but also a swathe of rain pushing its way northwards. and this morning we do have some outbreaks of showery across outbreaks of showery rain across parts with a bit of parts of scotland with a bit of sleet snow over the higher sleet or snow over the higher ground. the brightest weather this be across this morning will be across parts northern england, the parts of northern england, the midlands anglia. midlands and into east anglia. but here it is going to turn cloudier as we go through the day, with bit of rain pushing day, with a bit of rain pushing in as swathe of rain across in as this swathe of rain across southern parts gradually makes its northwards go its way northwards as we go through day. also, some through the day. also, some outbreaks rain across parts outbreaks of rain across parts of ireland, and of northern ireland, and temperatures will temperatures for many of us will be a little below be around or a little bit below average of year, average for the time of year, especially across parts of scotland. bit of a chilly feel scotland. a bit of a chilly feel here as go through the end of here as we go through the end of the day. wet weather across the day. the wet weather across much of england will feed further northwards, pretty much of england will feed furtiendiorthwards, pretty much of england will feed furtiendiortthe rds, pretty much of england will feed furtiendiortthe day pretty much of england will feed furtiendiortthe day across'etty wet end to the day across northern england and a wet northern england and then a wet night much of scotland. and night for much of scotland. and as that rain hits high

as that rain hits the high ground over highlands, the ground over the highlands, the grampians, are likely to see grampians, we are likely to see some further snow. some further hill snow. something some further hill snow. somethiniin behind. following in behind. so temperatures of temperatures taking a bit of a dip, many places falling to low to mid single figures but quite a places waking up to a few places waking up to a bright start on wednesday, particularly across central parts of england. however, towards western areas southwestern parts here we will have some heavy blustery showers, could have a bit of thunder mixed in with these as they gradually make their way northeastward temperatures northeastward as temperatures again average the northeastward as temperatures agairof average the northeastward as temperatures agairof year. average the northeastward as temperatures agairof year. perhaps the northeastward as temperatures agairof year. perhaps a the northeastward as temperatures agairof year. perhaps a little time of year. perhaps a little bit below, but it is going to be a touch milder than for a touch milder than today for many quite many of us, albeit quite blustery by a brighter blustery at times. by a brighter outlook, with boxt solar sponsors of weather on .

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26th of march. you're very welcome to breakfast with eamonn holmes and isabel webster. >> very to have you on board. >> we're with you until just after 9:25 ministers are poised to formally declare china a threat to britain's national security . two individuals and security. two individuals and one company face sanctions after the data of 40 million british voters was leaked . voters was leaked. >> beijing blasted for spying on brits but his uk response enough i >> -- >> well, m >> well, critics include the former conservative leader, sir iain duncan smith. he says the sanctions don't go far enough. >> whilst i welcome these two sanctions from the government, it is a little bit this statement like an elephant giving birth to a mouse. >> earlier we spoke to former liverpool mp crossbencher peer lord david alton. >> duncan smith has used his metaphor about the elephant giving birth to a mouse. well, it's a bit like if i can use a different metaphor, it's like closing the door once the horse

has bolted . has bolted. >> we're also looking at this breaking story in the united states, a bridge in baltimore has collapsed after it was hit by a cargo ship. an ongoing situation there . situation there. >> and british comedian sacha baron cohen is facing a backlash after the actress rebel wilson named him as the biggest. after the actress rebel wilson named him as the biggest . well, named him as the biggest. well, i'm not going to read that word in hollywood. more of that with steph takyi shortly morning this week's unsettled theme continues today. >> most of us will see some rain at some point. there will also be a bit of hill snow over the high ground of scotland. i'll have more details shortly. >> and we want to take you to the live pictures and the shocking pictures of that bridge collapse in baltimore, the fire department saying it is a mass casualty incident after the 1.6 mile stretch of the bridge

collapsed into the water after a cargo ship crashed into it at around 135 local time. it's thought at least seven people are in the water and there is a search and rescue operation ongoing there . ongoing there. >> we're going to bring you what we can on that in the next 20 minutes or so on the show. in politics, the deputy prime minister, oliver dowden, has accused china of being responsible for two malicious cyber campaigns targeting voters, politicians and journalists. >> we want now to be as open as possible with the house and with the british public, because part of our defence is calling out this behaviour. this is the latest in a clear pattern of hostile activity originated in china, including the targeting of democratic institutions and parliamentarians in the united kingdom and beyond .

kingdom and beyond. >> well, lord cameron released a statement on x in relation to all of this last night attacks on our democracy are unacceptable, yet that is what organisations backed by china have done today . have done today. >> they we are publicly calling them out and we've taken action. we've summoned the chinese ambassador and we are putting sanctions, travel bans and asset freezes on the individuals and the group responsible . the group responsible. >> well, let's speak to the shadow paymaster general, jonathan ashworth, and regular on the program. good morning to you. travel bans, sanctions. doesit you. travel bans, sanctions. does it go far enough ? does it go far enough? >> well, these are important announcements from the government . we will in the government. we will in the labour party always prioritise national security and prioritise our democratic integrity. so we support what the government has done. support what the government has done . we do believe that we need done. we do believe that we need to continue to keep all of these matters under review. in fact, if we were elected, we would do

a full audit of all uk china relations to fully understand our exposure to china and indeed give certainty to those businesses who trade with china . businesses who trade with china. but we do support what the government announced yesterday , government announced yesterday, but we would continue to work on a cross—party basis with them to ensure that the right action is taken in response to any threat to our national security . to our national security. >> of problems within the labour party around all this. you had a researcher, didn't you, that was accused of spying for china? i think that was back in september 2023. and you also had barrie gardner accepting a huge loan from the chinese communist party, i think, to the tune of half £1 million. are you sure that this sort of activity isn't happening in the labour party today ? well, i, i might have today? well, i, i might have misremembered the news report, but i thought there was a researcher who had an association with, conservative mps. >> if i've misremembered that, i apologise. but that's what i, i

thought, but obviously. look, if any, instances or concerns around national security are raised with us, we deal with it because national security has to because national security has to be an absolute priority, as does defending our democratic integrity. so as i say, we welcome the action that was taken yesterday. we continue to believe these matters must be kept under review. we would do a full audit of uk—china relations should we get elected. and i think the position that the uk adopted, say, ten years ago of announcing a new golden era of relations, i think that perhaps looks naive now retrospect , looks naive now in retrospect, okay, what about the time epoch defining challenge versus systemic threat? does the prime minister need to strengthen his language in relation to china, or is this all about where it really hurts? you know, the economy and sanctions ? economy and sanctions? >> i think these things are all semantic in the end. look, i'm not a diplomat, foreign,

diplomatic service, our intelligence service will make appropriate advice to the prime minister on what the right semantic language to use is. i wouldn't get personally get too hung up on the language, but the key thing is that we are taking our taking our cybersecurity seriously. we're taking our national security seriously. that's what we believe should be done. that's what a labour government would do. and of course, all these things are always kept under review and judgements are always made about what labelling is to what the right labelling is to use. as i say, in the end, use. but as i say, in the end, whatever the semantics of it, you've got to put your national security about semantics, >> it's not about semantics, jonathan. about money, jonathan. it's about money, isn't it? you can't afford to tell them off. can act sort tell them off. you can act sort of slightly. well, we agree with the on this and the government on this and everybody's very naughty everybody's been very naughty naughty but we naughty about this. but are we going anything about it. going to do anything about it. no not, they're not. no you're not, they're not. nobody's going to do anything about it. why? because you can't i >> -- >> well, it's certainly true that china invests a lot in our in our british economy and

particularly now over recent years, 20, 30, 40 years or so, we've led a lot of our industry go haven't we? we don't have the manufacturing base that we used to have, which is why we're more exposed to, global, global, you know, global factors. that's why our energy bills have gone up. so much because we never invested in our own energy sources when we had the chance. it's why, if you think back to the pandemic, we've hand the pandemic, we've paid hand over sometimes ppe that over fist sometimes for ppe that was faulty, couldn't even be used because we didn't manufacture our own. or is that charlatans came along and got contracts ? contracts? >> can you actually, i think you can start reversing it. >> i think you can actually, yes. and i think that's one of the things we're trying to do. we call it secure genomics. we're trying to we want to invest in our green energy infrastructure because we believe only brings believe that not only brings down creates good down bills and creates good jobs, that's a security jobs, that that's a security issue united kingdom as issue for united kingdom as well. want to well. we don't want to be completely reliant on whether it's putin's russia or , you it's putin's russia or, you know, the middle eastern countries when it comes to oil

supply or decisions made by china. now you're always going to be part of the globe. you know, can't get off know, you can't get off the globe, obviously, you can do globe, obviously, but you can do more support your own more to support your own manufacturing. and that will mean back good, mean bringing back good, well—paid parts the well—paid jobs to parts of the country have those country that have lost those good, well—paid look, good, well—paid jobs. look, look, communities like look, you know, communities like bolsover , mansfield, wigan, bolsover, mansfield, wigan, makerfield, leigh used to power this country. men used to go underground and work long hours in really hard labour and powered this country. but we've lost a lot of those. we lost all of those types of jobs. well, we need to be investing in in the manufacturing of the future now and create good, well—paid jobs across community. jonathan across every community. jonathan ashworth, to ashworth, we spoke to the education gillian education secretary, gillian keegan, this morning. >> addressing a crisis >> she was addressing a crisis in special educational needs, announcing places. but announcing 6000 new places. but she the point to us this she made the point to us this morning that at the moment, the independent sector provides a decent proportion of special educational needs , and that she educational needs, and that she described this vat tax that you'll be putting on private schools as pernicious, that will

have a devastating impact on people with special educational needs. >> look, we've got to make tough choices. the public finances are shot to pieces, aren't they? after 14 years of the tories, they made a real mess of the economy. we've got to make some tough choices and we are going tough choices and we are going to have to levy vat on those private fees in order to private school fees in order to fund expansion of mental fund an expansion of mental health support teaching health support and teaching support for the 90 support in schools for the 90 odd percent of pupils who don't go to private schools. but the finances are real, are a real mess. under 14 years of the tories. and it means that if we get elected, we going to get elected, we are going to have make tough decisions have to make tough decisions like but than like that. but rather than learning the mistakes tories learning the mistakes the tories are a billion are proposing a £46 billion bombshell, either bombshell, which will either mean borrowing , pushing up mean more borrowing, pushing up mortgages could mean cuts to the nhs and actually threatens the future of the state pension as we know hope gillian we know it. i hope gillian keegan has got some answers on that front. >> jonathan, if you were to win this upcoming election . ian, if this upcoming election. ian, if i was standing in your shoes and

just listening to what you're saying about the state of the country and the options that are either open to us or are not open to us, i'd be really depressed. i'm not sure i would want to be held accountable in a new government for mistakes, as you see it, of the of the previous government, do you , do previous government, do you, do you get depressed about that ? you get depressed about that? >> no. i'm eager to change, to change this country. >> no. i'm eager to change, to change this country . look, after change this country. look, after 14 years of the tories, i think people have had enough of rishi sunak. they think he's weak and out of his depth. they've had enough of the tories. this country wants changed. there's a yearning for change. it in yearning for change. i see it in people's i feel it in my people's faces. i feel it in my handshake and am determined. handshake and i am determined. and labour party is and the labour party is determined bring the change determined to bring the change to country, fix our to this country, to fix our national service, to national health service, to bnng national health service, to bring well—paid bring back good, well—paid jobs across the across every corner of the country , to raise up living country, to raise up living standards and to give our children very best start in children the very best start in life. >> jonathan ashworth, interesting talking to you today. thank you for your views. much appreciated . we've got to much appreciated. we've got to leave it there. jonathan

ashworth the labour party, ashworth from the labour party, thank you very much. if you've got view on what he's had to got a view on what he's had to say, we'd like to hear from you. gb views gbnews.com. gb views gb news.com. >> gb views gbnews.com. >> let's the latest on this >> let's get the latest on this developing from baltimore developing story from baltimore and maryland in united and maryland in the united states, a bridge has states, where a huge bridge has collapsed. our home and security edhon collapsed. our home and security editor, white, has the editor, mark white, has the latest for us and quite frankly, stunning pictures. but this is a serious situation unfolding and a number of people in the water, because there were cars on that bndge because there were cars on that bridge when it was struck . bridge when it was struck. >> yeah, it's quite clear there is a terrible tragedy unfolding in baltimore this morning. this incident happened at 130 in the morning, a huge container ship, the singapore registered dalli , the singapore registered dalli, was leaving the container port in baltimore , heading out of in baltimore, heading out of chesapeake bay when it struck a central column of that bridge. and the pictures show quite clearly what happened. then the structural integrity of the whole of the bridge was

compromised , and the whole of compromised, and the whole of the bridge, it seems, just collapsed into the water. you have seen bridge collapses before where you might get a central span and vehicles on either side are okay. but this was the whole of that bridge. now it was 130 in the morning. it won't have been as busy as normal, but this is still a major highway up to philly , to major highway up to philly, to new york and new jersey. so there will have been vehicles on there. we have reports from the emergency services that a number of vehicles have ended up in the water. it's been described by baltimore fire department as a mass casualty event. in addition to those vehicles in the water, we're also told it was seven. but now up to 20 other people are in the water. we believe they were construction workers. of course, these massive bridges, you're quite often see construction workers on bridges overnight doing the maintenance work that they can't do when it's too busy during the day. so

a number of construction workers who were on the bridge have also ended up in the water. we're told that the temperatures of the water, the patapsco river at the water, the patapsco river at the moment is nine celsius. so very cold indeed . it won't take very cold indeed. it won't take long at all before hypothermia sets in. and this incident unfolded just over 2.5 hours ago, and of course, it's pitch black, cold water. it's going to be very difficult for those search and rescue teams who are there en masse now with specialist divers into the water and looking for survivors. >> mark. thank you. we'll leave it there. very, very depressing news, startling pictures there. not even a collapse or just a crumbling. >> absolutely . >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> it's as if it's made out of lego or paper or something, rather than metal. shocking, let's get the latest. we've got andrew and bev in the studio with us, and they can tell us what's coming up in britain's newsroom >> that's the first time you've seen pictures, and we'll seen those pictures, and we'll be keeping date on that,

be keeping up to date on that, because that is emerging because that is an emerging story. >> you're and you just >> you're driving and you just drop kids off at school and drop the kids off at school and you're your way. get back and you're on your way. get back and get the to the get the tv on to see the pictures because it's pictures of that. because it's 2.6km bridge match. 2.6km long, that bridge match. if had been at rush hour to if that had been at rush hour to collapse america, you do collapse in america, you do wonder conditions, how the wonder the conditions, how the pilot of that ship does not see what's in front of him unless there's what's in front of him unless theregoes wrong? that goes wrong? >> you still >> i know, but you still wouldn't have thought a bridge like would collapse the like that would collapse in the united states, if that had been some perhaps in south some somewhere, perhaps in south america, you think perhaps it had or had been jerry built or something. mean, it's something. i mean, it's baltimore. baltimore, baltimore. yeah baltimore, i mean, extraordinary. i bet you trump have something say trump will have something to say about that. >> yeah, i'm fascinated by nadine today. nadine dorries today. >> at 66. she >> glamorous at 66. yeah. she looks pretty good. she looks very good. >> i think she's a very attractive woman. and i think. what? i'm quite. beverly. >> i think with this revelation thing not thing that it's not a revelation. you know, this is a revelation. you know, this is a revelation that you her attractive. >> i didn't know that. >> i didn't know that. >> i didn't know that. >> i think she's very attractive. are you? yes, i do, i think you're a very attractive woman. thanks, isabel. >> not bad.

woman. thanks, isabel. >> you're not bad. >> you're not bad. >> i'm feeling rather left out here. >> i think you're gorgeous. >> i think you're gorgeous. >> thank you, thank you. >> thank you, thank you. >> no, no. tell me this. i think it's awful that people say, oh, she's and she's attractive. she's 40 and she's attractive. you know, she's she's you know, she's 50 and she's attractive. she's 60, i think. i think that's the thing. think that's that's the thing. i mean, luck to mean, just good luck to her. i mean, just good luck to her. i mean, who you find attractive mean, who do you find attractive at age? i mean, there's so at that age? i mean, there's so many. look at joan collins, who's years. many. look at joan collins, whiyeah. years. many. look at joan collins, whiyeah. cheers. iears. >> yeah. cheers. >> yeah. cheers. >> yeah. cheers. >> yeah. when people say, oh, you know, you look good for your age. >> oh, it's a backhanded compliment, isn't it? yeah >> it's not nice, is my other half you look good. half always goes. you look good. doesn't about your age. half always goes. you look good. doesni about your age. half always goes. you look good. doesni say about your age. half always goes. you look good. doesni say wheniout your age. half always goes. you look good. doesni say when het your age. half always goes. you look good. doesni say when he goes, age. half always goes. you look good. doesni say when he goes, you when i say when he goes, you look great. yeah, i'm all right for my age. and he goes, don't say for your age. and that's got to what women tell to be what women have to tell ourselves, don't we have to ourselves, don't we? we have to tell that. tell ourselves that. >> think that's a >> and you think that's a positive thing, then women positive thing, then for women who coming out and saying positive thing, then for women who i coming out and saying positive thing, then for women who i thinking out and saying positive thing, then for women who i think probably,id saying positive thing, then for women who i think probably, yeah.ing that, i think probably, yeah. >> it draw attention to >> but it does draw attention to the fact that people say for the fact that people do say for your you look good for your your age, you look good for your age. you know, we're all healthy, 66. healthy, 60, 66. >> the new 46, isn't it? >> it's the new 46, isn't it? >> it's the new 46, isn't it? >> yeah, it is. julian assange

verdict coming, being handed >> yeah, it is. julian assange verdic1030|ing, being handed >> yeah, it is. julian assange verdic1030|ing, thhatianded be down 1030 today. that would be big it will be. big in your show. it will be. what you think's going to what do you think's going to happen? be able to happen? will he be able to appeal extradition? appeal his extradition? >> think so. he's gonna >> i don't think so. he's gonna i yeah then go to i think yeah he can then go to the european court of course, if they willing hear it. they are willing to hear it. but so. getting closer so. but it's getting closer to extradition yeah and extradition i think. yeah and also going be talking also we're going to be talking to of the tory mps who's to one of the tory mps who's been china. been sanctioned by china. pathetic, pitiful response. and the in the the deputy prime minister in the commons it. commons yesterday wasn't it. this terrible. oh, this has been so terrible. oh, we're sanctioning two officials and ridiculous, and one company. ridiculous, hopeless, and one company. ridiculous, hopthank got leave it >> thank you. got to leave it there, we'll you at half there, we'll see you at half nine. see the great nine. we'll see the great british giveaway competition and how right how you can enter right now. >> week >> it's the final week to see how could win you could how you could win big. you could win amazing £12,345 in tax win an amazing £12,345 in tax free cash that you could spend. however you like. plus, there's a further £500 of shopping vouchers to spend at your favourite store. we'll also give you a gadget package to use in your garden this spring. that includes games a includes a games console, a pizza a portable smart pizza oven and a portable smart speaker so you can listen to gb news on the go. you have to hurry as close at 5:00 pm hurry as lines close at 5:00 pm on for another chance to

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sacha baron cohen, the actor and comedian. he's defended himself after the actress. the australian actress rebel wilson spoke out about his bad

behaviour . spoke out about his bad behaviour. she's got a book coming out. she's writing about him and stephanie takyi. we're talking about. the year is 2016. the film was called grimsby. how is she describing her experience working with him? >> she said he was outrageous. eamonn you know what happens in showbiz when people bring out their books ? that's when they their books? that's when they it's like no hold bars. >> he denies all of this. >> he denies all of this. >> he denies all of this. >> he denies all the allegations. you know from allegations. but you know from ages about ten years ages ago about ten years ago, she that done one sex she said that she'd done one sex scene him , which she scene with him, which she described the most disgusting scene with him, which she descriever the most disgusting scene with him, which she descriever. the most disgusting scene with him, which she descriever . she most disgusting scene with him, which she descriever . she saidit disgusting scene with him, which she descriever . she said thatgusting scene with him, which she descriever . she said that sheing thing ever. she said that she felt a lot of pressure to do a nude team, which she said no to. and what's coming out now , she and what's coming out now, she says chapter 23 specific in her book. he's already got his high powered lawyers to come out to say , we do not want this say, we do not want this included in the book. but rebel yesterday named and shamed him and said she will be going ahead with everything she experienced with him. >> did make? >> what did you make? >> what did you make? >> whether right or whether >> whether it's right or whether it's wrong, you're reading it and reaction and there's initial reaction from you and knowing reputations

of him, of her, whatever. and, what was his name? the one they all had? no, they they are not. >> jeffrey, the, producer epstein . harvey weinstein. epstein. harvey weinstein. weinstein. yeah >> and what we know goes on here. yeah. what was your view looking at it all overall, i'm not shocked, eamonn, because i think , you know, we watch these think, you know, we watch these movies and we see the finished project , the finished project. project, the finished project. >> the scenes there's >> but behind the scenes there's always lot of controversy that always a lot of controversy that goes industry goes on that most industry insiders know about. and we only tend to find out about these things when people can put pen to and talk their to paper and talk about their experiences . but there's always experiences. but there's always the critics who come out and say, why didn't you talk about it the time? it at the time? >> his lawyers banned her talking and yet she is talking about it and yet she is she's going speaking out. she's going ahead speaking out. so a lot of this info is not in the book, but she's now doing interviews book. interviews about the book. >> she to because she says >> she has to because she says she doesn't want silenced she doesn't want to be silenced about the about this anymore. but the thing baron cohen

about this anymore. but the thin his baron cohen about this anymore. but the thin his lawyers baron cohen about this anymore. but the thin his lawyers say baron cohen about this anymore. but the thin his lawyers say they've ohen about this anymore. but the thin his lawyers say they've gotn and his lawyers say they've got evidence, they've got videos, they've who can they've got witnesses who can disparage everything that she's saying. here's a question saying. well here's a question is this just the ultimate pr ploy is this just the ultimate pr ploy for her book? >> i mean, it's got everyone talking. >> i agree , i do think this is >> i agree, i do think this is a big pr to help her sell the book because see, it this way, rebel wilson, she is a funny character. people love her in hollywood. but if there's a bit of scandal, people are now going to be interested see what to be interested to see what chapter of the book to chapter 23 of the book has to say sacha cohen . say about sacha baron cohen. >> well, is what she's been >> well, this is what she's been saying her interviews. saying in her interviews. i can't read out. >> you can't anyway. you >> no, you can't anyway. you can't . but i feel sorry for him can't. but i feel sorry for him because in the senses, once these things come out, it's hard to sweep it under the carpet. >> and he does a >> and he does play a controversial role in a lot of his films. it's not exactly a cuddly, character, cuddly, cosy character, is it? it's of nuisance. it's kind of a nuisance. >> should known that >> she should have known that this to come out. this was going to come out. >> difficult one. okay, stephanie thank you. >> difficult one. okay, ste lovely thank you. >> difficult one. okay, ste lovely talking'hank you. >> difficult one. okay, ste lovely talking to nk you. >> difficult one. okay, ste lovely talking to you,yu. >> difficult one. okay, ste lovely talking to you, we've >> lovely talking to you, we've had morning . hope you had a good morning. hope you have had a good morning back in the morning from 6:00.

>> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> morning. here's your latest gb news weather update brought to you by the met office. there will be some dry weather around today, but also a swathe of rain pushing its way northwards. and this have some this morning we do have some outbreaks showery rain across outbreaks of showery rain across parts of scotland, with a of parts of scotland, with a bit of sleet or snow the higher sleet or snow over the higher ground. brightest weather ground. the brightest weather this will across this morning will be across parts northern england, the parts of northern england, the midlands anglia, midlands and into east anglia, but is going to turn but here it is going to turn cloudier as we go through the day, a bit of rain pushing day, with a bit of rain pushing in this of rain across in as this swathe of rain across southern parts gradually makes in as this swathe of rain across sotway n parts gradually makes in as this swathe of rain across sotway northwardsiually makes in as this swathe of rain across sotway northwards aslly makes in as this swathe of rain across sotway northwards as we makes in as this swathe of rain across sotway northwards as we go (es its way northwards as we go through day. some through the day. also, some outbreaks parts outbreaks of rain across parts of northern ireland, and temperatures us will temperatures for many of us will be a bit below be around or a little bit below average time of year, average for the time of year, especially across of especially across parts of scotland. a chilly feel scotland. a bit of a chilly feel here we go through end of here as we go through the end of the the wet weather across the day. the wet weather across much england feed much of england will feed further northwards, pretty further northwards, so a pretty wet day across

wet end to the day across northern england and then a wet night much scotland. and night for much of scotland. and as the high as that rain hits the high ground the highlands, the ground over the highlands, the grampians, are to grampians, we are likely to see some further snow. some further hill snow. something clearer something a bit clearer following so following in behind. so temperatures taking a bit of a dip, many places falling to low to single figures but quite to mid single figures but quite a places waking up to a few places waking up to a bright start on wednesday, particularly across central parts of england. however, towards western areas, southwestern parts here we will have some heavy blustery showers, could have bit of showers, could have a bit of thunder mixed in with these as they gradually make their way northeastwards . temperatures northeastwards. temperatures again the northeastwards. temperatures agairof the northeastwards. temperatures agairof year. the northeastwards. temperatures agairof year. perhaps the northeastwards. temperatures agairof year. perhaps a the northeastwards. temperatures agairof year. perhaps a little time of year. perhaps a little bit below, but it is going to be a touch milder than today for many of us, albeit quite blustery times. by that warm blustery at times. by that warm feeling inside from boxt boiler as sponsors of weather on gb news. >> hey good morning. we're keeping an eye on this situation with the baltimore bridge. if you haven't seen the pictures, stay tuned. it's quite shocking. we're waiting to hear how many casualties just casualties they've been just

disintegrate after being struck by cargo cargo ship and lots by a cargo cargo ship and lots of casualties, we fear. >> also, we're talking about children going to school and not ”appy children going to school and not nappy trained. would you want one of those in your

not. morning. 930 on tuesday. the 26th of march. this is britain's news. eamonn gb news andrew pierce and bev turner. >> very good morning to you. so, baltimore bridge collapsed. a bndge baltimore bridge collapsed. a bridge city of bridge in the us city of baltimore entirely collapsed baltimore has entirely collapsed .look baltimore has entirely collapsed . look at those pictures. if you're on the radio, you should really a tv . it collapsed you're on the radio, you should reallybeing a tv . it collapsed you're on the radio, you should reallybeing hit tv . it collapsed you're on the radio, you should reallybeing hit by . it collapsed you're on the radio, you should reallybeing hit by a it collapsed you're on the radio, you should reallybeing hit by a containerzd after being hit by a container ship . we're bringing you the ship. we're bringing you the live pictures now. this is baltimore . the search operation baltimore. the search operation is underway for at least seven people. it was 130 in the morning. otherwise, i'm sure that the casualty numbers would have been much higher. >> and we're talking about the chinese cyber attacks. china strongly rejecting claims from the they are

the uk and us. they are responsible for attacks responsible for cyber attacks that left data of 40 million that left the data of 40 million people risk. chris our people at risk. chris hope, our political editor, more . political editor, has more. >> beijing blasted for spying on millions of brits but is a uk government response strong enough ? enough? >> and mps safety breach pro—palestinian activists rallied outside conservative mps constituency office in bradford, demanding his support for a ceasefire in gaza. that mp is our very own phillip davis and he joins us next to tell us what happened. >> 66 and sexy, why not? the former secretary of state, nadine dorries? she's a feisty woman, i can tell you. has revealed why men find her so sexy and desirable. well, those bridge pictures are amazing. >> they are amazing. they are . >> they are amazing. they are. >> they are amazing. they are. >> it's amazing. crumpled. it reminds me of when we were at

school and we