rivers and seas? england's rivers and seas? >> there at the worst on record, new figures show that there were more than 3,000,000 hours of spills last year. but who's to blame ? is it all actually blame? is it all actually sewage? and what can be done? >> and brits fighting for putin in ukraine? we asked the question should these traitors receive the shamima begum treatment and be stripped of their british citizenship? >> should these traitors be begum and i begum? you begum, they begum. and it's actually shamima begum. >> but anyway, that's the time we need to use on this one. should they be shamima begum? should they be shamima begum? should they be shamima begum? should they have their citizenship stripped from them? or do you actually think you know they're not going to work for a terrorist organisation ,

for a terrorist organisation, some might consider it to just be as bad, but others we've already had emails in since we spoke about this on on britain's newsroom, we've already had emails saying it's nothing emails in saying it's nothing like the shamima begum case. >> seen how the wagner >> have we seen how the wagner group operates in ukraine and around the world? you could very and they're not there. perhaps a mercenary group, sure. but they do employ the tactics of terror. yeah i mean, the bombing of civilians, the contravenes un of all norms of war. i think you could very easily make the case that that there has been a campaign of terror from the russian military. well, you know what i think? >> i don't think they should step back, step foot back in this country. why should they, if they love putin's russia so much, i'm sure putin will gladly give a visa. and let's not. give them a visa. and let's not. they don't have one already. >> isn't just russia. this >> this isn't just russia. this is of evil. this is is an axis of evil. this is iran. using iranian iran. russia are using iranian drones as suicide bombing drones from iran and of course, they are funding themselves through

chinese money as well. this is an axis of evil. russia, china , an axis of evil. russia, china, iran, even north korea, a little bit on the side. these are the countries that are all working together in this space, i suppose the question is, can these two brits, really lose their citizenship without being made stateless? i think the only way that you could actually do this is if they were given citizenship in russia, and they might not like russia. i mean, russia doesn't have any mcdonald's anymore. yes. russia doesn't have integration doesn't have any integration into the global economy. are they traitors? >> should jailed? should >> should they be jailed? should they their citizenship they have their citizenship stripped? they shamima stripped? should they be shamima begum us gb views at begum? let us know gb views at gb news. com but first it's your headunes. headlines. >> emily. thank you. the top stories this hour. public satisfaction with the nhs has fallen to its lowest level since records began 40 years ago, with waiting times among the biggest concerns. a poll found that

difficulty accessing gps is also a major worry, with the number of people satisfied with the health service now just 24. that's down from 70% in 2010. rates of dissatisfied are roughly the same across both major political parties . the major political parties. the report found that tightening funding and chronic workforce shortages over the past decade has left the nhs in a continual state of crisis. we asked people in manchester for their thoughts on britain's health service once you get there, yes, but it's actually getting through the gp to getting to the nhs. >> i think that a lot of money is wasted talking to people that work or have worked within the nhs, the amount of waste is phenomenal. so i think they need to look at the management, it needs to start at the top. >> thankfully i don't use it a lot, but i'm currently on the waiting list for one of the hospitals in for manchester 12 andifs hospitals in for manchester 12 and it's a 52 week wait. >> we should make it like a more accessible thing.

>> satisfied because >> i am satisfied because there's a lot of hard working nurses, doctors, surgeons like you see the care they give you. plus i had three of my children here and the care i received was perfect . perfect. >> there was a 54% increase in sewage in england's waterways last year compared to 2022, pushing figures to their highest level. the environment agency says it's due to storm overflows with untreated sewage dumped into rivers and seas. it comes amid rising concern for the state of england's waterways , state of england's waterways, with a part of the river thames that's to be used for the boat race this weekend, found to be contaminated with e.coli, the environment agency's director of water, helen wakeham, says it's disappointing but not surprising. >> the environment agency required water companies to monitor all their discharges. we've got 100% coverage now of the sewage network and that accounts for some of the increase, but actually it just shows the scale of storm

overflow operation in a wet yeah overflow operation in a wet year. and the purpose of putting the monitoring in place was to make an argument for more regulation and more investment in storm overflows. and i think , in storm overflows. and i think, you know, the results from last year show exactly why that's required . required. >> the search for survivors following yesterday's bridge collapse in baltimore has been suspended, with six people presumed dead. video footage captured the moment a cargo ship crashed into the francis scott key bridge at around 130 yesterday morning. local time. the collision plunged cars, their drivers and construction workers into the water below . if workers into the water below. if you're watching on tv, this is the scene in baltimore this morning. you can see the wreckage of the bridge and that cargo ship still in the water. the city's port, which is one of the busiest in the east of the united states, is now closed indefinitely. a review has found that a ten month old baby who was murdered by his parents just weeks after being handed back to them , should have been in

them, should have been in protective care. finley bowden's parents, shannon marsden and stephen bowden, inflicted over 100 injuries on their son before he died at his family home in chesterfield, derbyshire, on christmas day in 2020. they were given life sentences in may. a safeguarding review found practices in the local authority were inadequate. it said that while findlay's parents were responsible for his death, professional interventions should have protected him . should have protected him. safety experts are calling for more action to prevent deaths caused by exposure to asbestos. more than 25 years after it was bannedin more than 25 years after it was banned in the uk. it's more than 25 years after it was banned in the uk . it's estimated banned in the uk. it's estimated around 300,000 non—domestic buildings constructed before 1999 still contain the deadly material. about 5000 people die from exposure to asbestos every yean from exposure to asbestos every year, experts say more needs to be done to improve public awareness and improve removal processes . and finally, wales processes. and finally, wales has missed out on qualifying for

the euro 2024 football tournament. it's after losing to poland in a penalty shootout in cardiff last night . they won cardiff last night. they won five four, putting them through to their fifth successive european tournament. the defeat for wales comes after they secured a41 victory over finland in the play off semi—final last thursday . for the latest stories thursday. for the latest stories sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. com slash alerts now back to tom and . emily. >> good afternoon britain. it is 12:07 and a damning new survey has revealed that public satisfaction with the nhs has plummeted to an all time low. just 24% of respondents say they were pleased with the performance of britain's beleaguered health service. >> yes, high waiting times and staff shortages were cited as patients primary concerns and

the new data marks a sharp decline in public confidence in the nhs since 2010, when satisfaction in 2020, when satisfaction in 2020, when satisfaction was over 50. >> still, yes, just before the pandemic, i think it was 60% satisfaction now down to just a quarter of us. >> well and labour tell us that in 2010 it had its highest ever pubuc in 2010 it had its highest ever public satisfaction rates. >> interesting . let's get this >> interesting. let's get this more information now with health and social affairs editor of the sunday express, lucy johnston, now , lucy, there'll be many now, lucy, there'll be many people pointing to the fact that satisfaction really collapsed after march 2020. i suppose a lot of this has got to be to do with covid. >> absolutely. we practically shut our doors to many people with many other problems, and the nhs became focused on very much one single disease. and that built up problems in the

system which was already struggling . and we now have an struggling. and we now have an absolute legacy of that with, excess mortality and people with huge problems waiting for care and over 7 million on the waiting list. but the problems were already we've had problems every single winter , i've been every single winter, i've been doing this job for a long time, and we're always writing about backlogs of ambulances and clogged up, systems. and interestingly, the survey they, picked out, people believe that increasing staff numbers and increasing staff numbers and increasing money will will fix this. but we've been doing that for a long time. and we, the nhs, has become famous for throwing pots of money and doing short term quick fix solutions, and it doesn't seem to be working , the dutch, spend about working, the dutch, spend about the same amount of money as we do on their health system, and they don't have these kind of waits. so i think that

politicians need to be brave enough to look at sort of real reforms and to get to the roots of some of these problems, which have become entrenched. >> lucy, the report's author, dan wellings, who's a senior fellow at the king's fund, he said that a lot of patients feel like their relationship with the nhs is a toxic one. do you think he means by that, that essentially people are reliant on the nhs, but they're not getting what they deserve in return, a bit like a relationship gone wrong ? relationship gone wrong? >> absolutely. and we can see that people are waiting years for care. they're waiting in pain. they're struggling. there are some parts of the country where there are waiting lists have just been closed because they can no longer put more people on them. so it doesn't work for the vast majority of people. and i think we do need to think about radical things like opening up the system for seven days. premier inn does it, google does it . the armed forces

google does it. the armed forces wouldn't work on a, you know, sort of four day operation. and i was reading something this morning which showed that there was an activity . we lose about was an activity. we lose about 30 to 50% of our activity in hospitals because we're not running the system full time and we're not running over seven days.i we're not running over seven days. i know doctors don't necessarily want to see that, but we need to modernise and we need to. it has the same system as it had in 1948, and we have a very different population with very different population with very different population with very different treatments. and yet. >> lucy. nine years ago, david cameron, the then prime minister, the now foreign secretary, promised a seven day nhs. it was one of the policy planks of the 2015 conservative manifesto, a manifesto that won a majority in the house of commons. did that just never materialise? and frankly, are there things that we can learn from other countries that perhaps are finding this period less challenging than the nhs? is >> absolutely. and we have

countries like israel and australia. they have systems where you have, health bodies that look after their own regions. so we've got a sort of central government. we've got lots of quangos, lots of money wasted, the doctors fought off that attempt to bring in seven day working and perhaps they would do again. but someone has to be brave enough to actually look at that and bring it in. and the other thing that is really important, i think, the department of health and social care, as it's called, is a bit of a misnomer. the social care part is never given the same attention or funding that the hospitals are , and social care hospitals are, and social care is something which councils have to look after. they are cash strapped, people are , you know, strapped, people are, you know, struggling in their homes. they clog up their gp surgeries, they clog up their gp surgeries, they clog up the hospitals. and if people aren't prepared to look after their elderly loved ones, as many people aren't , for

as many people aren't, for whatever reasons, we really have to think about how to fund that properly. >> absolutely. thank you very much for your time, lucy johnston, health and social affairs editor at the sunday express. mean , looking at this express. i mean, looking at this survey, satisfaction survey, apparently satisfaction with care is even lower, with social care is even lower, 13% the lowest since the survey began. and also what's interesting is 48% of us. so nearly half of us still think that increasing taxes and increasing the spending on the nhs is the way to improve it. so they might improve it a little. but could you really see more money, more taxes ? money, more taxes? >> ask, ask those people. how many people realise that in real terms, adjusted for inflation, spending on the nhs has risen by a third since 2010? yes i imagine that probably wasn't in the survey question. no, tens of billions pounds more adjusted for inflation. and yet and yet you don't feel that it's got any better. but but how do you feel about the nhs? because our north west of england reporter, sophie reapen west of england reporter, sophie reaper, has been speaking to people in manchester and joins

us now. sophie, what have you found ? found? >> well, like the weather here in manchester today, the response has been really rather grim. as you say, public satisfaction at the lowest level it has been since it first records first began in 1983. but that's not to say. however that people are not in support of the idea of the nhs. people are not in support of the idea of the nhs . 91% of people idea of the nhs. 91% of people still believe that the nhs should be a free service available when needed. 82% of people saying that it still should be paid for by the taxpayer. however, given the response to this in terms of pubuc response to this in terms of public satisfaction, it's clear that people are not happy with what their money is buying for them. top three gripes that people had seven. 81% of people are not happy with waiting times, whether that's with their gp or at hospital itself, second up, 54% of people are unhappy about staff shortages. and third, 47% said people were not.

the government were not putting enough money into the nhs. now i've been here in manchester this morning trying to gauge the public's reaction to this. here's what they had to tell me. >> should get their yes , but >> should get their yes, but it's actually getting through the gp to getting to the nhs. i think that a lot of money is wasted talking to people that work or have worked within the nhs. the amount of waste is phenomenal, so i think they need to look at the management, it needs to start at the top. >> thankfully i don't use it a lot, but i'm currently on the waiting list for one of the hospitals manchester for 12 hospitals in manchester for 12 andifs hospitals in manchester for 12 and it's a 52 week wait. we should make it like a more accessible thing. >> i am satisfied because there's a lot of hard working nurses, doctors , surgeons like nurses, doctors, surgeons like you see the care they give you. and plus i had three of my children here and the care i received was perfect . received was perfect. >> well, there we have it. a bit of a mixed bag in terms of

responses from the people of manchester this morning. i think that one lady at the end there must be part of the 24% of people who did say they were satisfied with the service being provided by the nhs, but there is still the overwhelming majority of people say majority of people who say they're happy with what they're not happy with what their taxes are paying for, and that something needs to be done to improve overall satisfaction with the service being provided. >> thanks so much sophie reaper there in manchester. appreciate your time on this. i mean, that does chime with what the survey says people. the top five reasons for nhs satisfaction just takes long get a gp just takes too long to get a gp or hospital appointment. 71% of people that that's the people say that that's the issue, isn't it? a lot of people say, you know, once they're in the door, they get decent treatment and the nurses and the doctors are working hard and all this. one wants to say a bad this. no one wants to say a bad word about about the staff themselves in the system. >> the staff isn't it? and >> and the staff isn't it? and it's perfectly it's perfectly legitimate. and i think sometimes with the sometimes the worry is with the system that it is as it is

currently constructed is if you say this could work better, this could be faster, we could apply this principle in a in a more efficient way. then people are like , why are you attacking the like, why are you attacking the nurses? why are you attacking the and it's that's the doctors? and it's and that's not the case. we can separate the system from those work the system from those who work within it. >> yes. very point. but in >> yes. very good point. but in other sewage spills have other news, sewage spills have hit record high, with waste hit a record high, with waste leaking into rivers and seas more than doubling in the last yeah >> yes. figures released by the environment agency show there were 3.6 million hours of spills , compared to get this 1.7 5,000,000 hours in 2022. >> absolutely massive increase there. the environment agency says it's due to storm overflows with untreated sewage dumped into rivers and seas with spills at their highest since 2016. >> well, helen wakeman , director >> well, helen wakeman, director of water transformation the environment agency, spoke sukh earlier today. >> the system is designed to the overflow and it fills up and storm overflows, overflow

because that's better than sewage and rainwater backing up into people's homes. but obviously the system is operating far more often and we do expect it to do so. the answer will be better maintenance from the water industry, but actually more investment in the network and what's planned over the next five years. what the water companies want to do is to invest in other £10 billion in improving storm overflows , and improving storm overflows, and that should start to see this problem starting to go away. but actually, it might take another 25 years to properly fix the system . system. >> well, there we go. that's the explanation. but let's speak to louise reddy now, the policy officer for surfers against sewage. and louise, do you take the point that was just explained there that if there isn't this overflow mechanism when there's a lot of rain or just a lot of excess sewage, the alternative of this stuff going into rivers and the sea, is it bubbung into rivers and the sea, is it bubbling up into our houses.

>> so this is something we hear a lot from water companies and the regulator, as we just heard from there. and it is it is an overflow mechanism. so it is something when there's too much rainfall , water something when there's too much rainfall, water companies are legally discharge legally allowed to discharge sewage into waterways. but that's actually only when there's exceptional circumstances of heavy rainfall . circumstances of heavy rainfall. now, last year we heard, as you said earlier , 3.5 million hours said earlier, 3.5 million hours of sewage being discharged into waterways. that equals a 1271 times a day. that's over a thousand times a day. sewage is being discharged into waterways. that doesn't sound like an exceptional to me , and shows exceptional to me, and shows that we really need to actually enforce the law , as it stands enforce the law, as it stands for water companies and regulators to be held to account properly. >> so the water companies are essentially asking for more money. they think all of us bill payers should pay more so that they can put more money into the infrastructure to fix these sewage spills. i guess at the

same time, a water company bosses are receiving quite a lot in the way of cash incentives themselves , not least are big themselves, not least are big bonuses. do you think it's fair to ask for more money from us, the bill payers , to solve this? the bill payers, to solve this? >> well, frankly, over the past 30 years, water companies have been taking customers money and paying been taking customers money and paying it out in dividends and bonuses for their executive cvs, unfortunately, that's been the case for 30 years. and now we need we're calling for change. we know that water companies make need to improve the system. as it stands, and part of that will be investment in the system. but where that money comes from is decision that comes from is a decision that the need to make sure the public need to make sure that we take a stand and hold water companies to account, so they run away with they can't just run away with they can't just run away with the they're calling the money that they're calling for people without actually for from people without actually putting the investment place putting the investment in place that promised improve that they promised to improve the system. that they promised to improve the now, m. that they promised to improve the now, we began this segment by >> now, we began this segment by saying is the highest saying this is the highest recorded sewage recorded amount of sewage discharged and storm overflow discharged and storm overflow discharged on record. and while

that's true, 2023 was also the first year in the history of the country that every single storm overflow drain was monitored. so we now , for the first time in we now, for the first time in the history of the country, have 100% coverage of monitoring these things. it's quite possible that in the past, we've had just as much , perhaps more, had just as much, perhaps more, sewage going into our waterways, but just didn't notice. >> that could be the case over the past few years. but for example, last year , we've had a example, last year, we've had a we've only had a 7% increase in the monitoring compared to the discharges we saw last year, but that there's actually been a 54% increase in discharges. so that's a huge disparity. despite that's a huge disparity. despite that small increase in monitoring. it's brilliant. we're getting the monitoring. but actually we know that this year has been an exceptional year has been an exceptional year for discharges. >> well, thank you very much indeed for your time louise. ready good luck with your campaign policy officer for surfers against sewage. yes.

sewage is the last thing you want. if you want to go surfing. it's very true, definitely. i mean, lots there's lots mean, there's lots there's lots in this, isn't there? i mean, the water companies have spoken about infrastructure, the water companies have spoken abo then infrastructure, the water companies have spoken abo then i infrastructure, the water companies have spoken abo then i was infrastructure, the water companies have spoken abo then i was reading ucture, the water companies have spoken abo then i was reading thate, but then i was reading that actually only about 12% of the network was actually built in victorian times. so is that an adequate excuse ? is this also adequate excuse? is this also poor population management? >> hang on, queen victoria died in 1901. if we have still 12, 12% is a huge proportion. that is what, 123 years old at the youngest? no, no. >> i take that. but as in you can't blame. they're trying to say, oh, you know, we're just working with what we've got. we need more money from the bill payers to invest in our infrastructure on a huge amount. but poor management from but is it poor management from their i think but is it poor management from their got i think but is it poor management from their got to i think but is it poor management from their got to be i think but is it poor management from their got to be the think but is it poor management from their got to be the case, that's got to be the case, surely. >> w frankly, we've surely. >> frankly, we've had >> i mean, frankly, we've had huge population growth. haven't. >> there is more sewage, we are producing more sewage and also in unlike in other in this country, unlike in other countries, other countries, in some other countries, in some other countries, it's overflow, countries, when it's overflow, it's sewage, also

it's not just sewage, it's also rainwater . rainwater. >> yeah. and we had a very rainy rainy year last year. so having rainwater mixed with sewage means this all gets, it means that this all gets, it means that this all gets, it means it's more than perhaps you'd think , at a more diluted quality. >> well, in a statement, water uk said these results are unacceptable and demonstrate exactly why we urgently need regulatory approval to upgrade our system so it can better cope with the weather. >> well there we go. that's nice from water uk coming up the home office warns that churches risk undermining the integrity of the asylum system. documents reveal that the clapham chemical attacker was allowed to remain in despite lying and in britain despite lying and failing a christianity test. >> what was the judge thinking? >> what was the judge thinking? >> this is good afternoon britain on .

gb news. >> it's 1227. you're watching and listening to good afternoon, britain. now labour is demanding answers on how the home office let a known liar and sex offender stay in this country. >> well, new court documents reveal the chemical attacker abdul ezedi was granted asylum based on being a christian convert, even though the judge knew there were concerns about whether he was always telling the truth . the truth. >> yes, well, to tell us more is gb news home and security editor mark white. mark, a lot of pressure now on the judge's decision to here allow him his appeal and to grant asylum. >> yeah, i mean, i think it's rather strange listening to the introduction there in labour demanding that the home office has questions to answer here. i think the finger actually points at the way in which the immigration appeal was handled, and the evidence directly from a member of the clergy here, the

home office have been really concerned for some time that as they tried to grapple with the migration crisis, that there is an industry that's sprung up of individuals and organised asians from charities and human rights groups to immigration lawyers andindeed groups to immigration lawyers and indeed to members of the clergy who are willing to go into bat for asylum seekers to fight against these carefully considered judgements that are handed down by home office officials on asylum to try to get them overturned . in this get them overturned. in this case of abdul ezedi appears to be a perfect example of that. he was twice turned down, for asylum, having appealed by 2018, but yet it was appealed again to the immigration court and heard by an immigration judge up in newcastle. and the thing that swung it for this immigration judge. and we only know about this, by the way, because the media fought to have these records released. but the thing

that swung it for the immigration judge was the intervention directly from this now retired baptist church minister, roy merryn, reverend roy merryn and not only testified in person, but wrote and submitted pictures, to tell the judge how he was convinced that abdul ezedi was genuine. he had converted to christianity. he was a good christian, and he was involved in everyday life in the church. their pictures not just of his baptism, but also images of him handing out leaflets, christian leaflets in newcastle city centre and the judge then decided, taking the testimony of this, reverend, merryn into account that he would grant asylum , would grant asylum, notwithstanding the fact that he had found abdul ezedi to be

someone very untrustworthy, a liar, a proven liar , for liar, a proven liar, for instance, he'd claimed initially instance, he'd claimed initially in his asylum application forms that his brother had been killed, shot dead in afghanistan . varne only to change that later to killed in a bomb attack . he claimed originally that he was a shia muslim, only to change that to a sunni muslim. he claimed that his parents would be in very serious danger , would be in very serious danger, at risk back in afghanistan because he converted to christianity, but no indication how they would ever have known what he was doing in the uk with regard , to his conversion to regard, to his conversion to christianity. so i think , at the christianity. so i think, at the end of the day, what this demonstrates , and the home demonstrates, and the home office would say, this is how individuals clearly with some authority and standing in a community can come forward, perhaps with the best of

intentions, but testify , on intentions, but testify, on behalf of people who are then, challenging decisions that have been carefully thought out by officials. at the home office, and that does have significant sway on immigration judges. >> it's extraordinary . a liar, a >> it's extraordinary. a liar, a convicted sex offender, all he had to do was hand out some leaflets and he's let in the country, but mark, while you're still here today, we've got some some new figures confirming your scoop yesterday day on the number who've crossed the channel >> yeah, 338 in, seven small boats came across yesterday when we were reporting on it, we'd said just over 300. so we're pretty close to the mark, and, yeah, that means effectively, now we're over 4600 for the year so far who have crossed the engush so far who have crossed the english channel. and that is

more than a thousand up on the same period last year. in fact, it's even higher than the record year the year before, when some 46,000 people crossed the engush 46,000 people crossed the english channel by the end of that year. and i think what it doesisit that year. and i think what it does is it really shows, the government up for its claims that the 36% reduction last year in small boat migrants arrivals was down to the government's policy on the small boats. if it was down to the government's policy, then how can they explain what is now a 25% increase? and we've been seeing those that sort of monitor events in the english channel on a regular basis, that it's down to the weather, that every time we see a break in the weather, those criminal gangs take advantage and they push out the boats in numbers . that's what boats in numbers. that's what they've been doing. >> thank you very much indeed .

>> thank you very much indeed. mark white, our home and security editor there, tom, i just can't get over why this judge ruled in this man's favour. i mean, he had, you know, he had letters from the red cross in support of him. he had refugee charities. of course, the church backing him as a convicted sex as well. a convicted sex offender , a proven liar multiple offender, a proven liar multiple times, sham conversion to times, a sham conversion to christianity. the mind boggles how many more people are going to get through the system in this same way. it's crazy . yeah, this same way. it's crazy. yeah, it makes me angry. >> well, again, it's not necessarily questions for the home office. it's questions for all of these groups. the judge along way and the judge at along the way and the judge at the it. of course, he the end of it. of course, he won't comment on it, but no, but we're not allowed to cross these judges. we're allowed to do that. >> that's that's and he doesn't have case have to comment on the case ehheh have to comment on the case either. don't comment on either. we don't comment on cases involved with. cases we're involved with. that's judge says. that's what the judge says. >> coming up, calls grow >> well, coming up, calls grow for two british men fighting for putin against ukraine to be arrested. what should we do arrested. but what should we do with them? we'll be having that discussion after your headlines

as . as. >> tom. thank you. the top stories this afternoon, public satisfaction with the nhs has fallen to its lowest level since records began 40 years ago, with waiting times among the biggest concerns in a poll found that difficulty accessing gps is also a major worry, with the number of people satisfied with the health service now just 24. that's down from 70% in 2010. rates of dissatisfaction are roughly the same across both major political parties. the report found that tightening funding and chronic workforce shortages over the past decade has left the nhs in a continual state of crisis . there was a 54% state of crisis. there was a 54% increase in sewage in england's waterways last year compared to 2022, pushing figures to the highest level. the environment agency says it's due to storm overflows , with untreated sewage overflows, with untreated sewage dumped into rivers and seas. it

comes amid rising concern for the state of england's waterways , with a part of the river thames that's to be used for the boat race. this weekend, found to be contaminated with e coli. the search for survivors following yesterday's bridge collapse in baltimore has been suspended, with six people presumed dead. video footage captured the moment a cargo ship crashed into the francis scott key bridge yesterday morning. the city's port, which is one of the busiest in the east of the united states, is now closed indefinitely . and a mural by indefinitely. and a mural by banksy in north london has been fenced off by a local council. the artwork in finsbury park features splashes of green paint on a residential building behind a cut back tree, giving the appearance of lush green leaves. credit was claimed by the street artist on his social media. but just days after it was vandalised with white paint, islington council says it's discussing future solutions with the home owner that will enable

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free. >> good afternoon. britain. just coming up to 20 to 1. and a pair of british men have been branded as traitors for. and an absolute disgrace for proudly fighting for vladimir putin's russian army in ukraine. yes, the men are named there. >> ben stimpson and aiden minnis. and they've posted pictures of themselves online in russian military gear, brandishing grenades and guns. now, their decision to fight for

russia in president putin's brutal war of conquest has led to calls for them to be jailed if they ever step foot in britain again. we're wondering what people think, whether they should be shamima begum, whether their british citizenship state of him should be taken ezedi little state of this miniature man . man. >> what a pathetic, scrawny, rat like individual . well, i this is like individual. well, i this is the first time i've seen a picture of it. i'm just sort of taking. this is a guy who thinks he's mr big shot with a gun on his back. and look at him. he's pathetic. >> i'm not sure if this is ben stimpson or his best mate, aidan mini. >> the pathetic little names as well. minis. well, that's. >> that's rude. we might have a menace at home watching us. >> i don't think we'll have an aidan minnis. and if we do, i'm very sorry. one of their name with this little one of their fathers is already disowned. >> son job, but we're joined >> his son job, but we're joined now analyst and now by defence analyst and former army officer, former british army officer, lieutenant lieutenant lieutenant colonel, lieutenant colonel stuart , colonel stuart crawford stuart, thank you much indeed for

thank you very much indeed for joining what you think joining us. what do you think should happen these two men? should happen to these two men? >> it's difficult one, >> well, it's a difficult one, actually, emily, because, it's the circumstances are not entirely straightforward , first entirely straightforward, first of all, i would, agree with you that they're not britain's finest export , and their value, finest export, and their value, to the russian forces is probably more propaganda than it is physical fighting power, as tom has said, however, the, the, legislation which would seem to cover their engagement and employment with the russian army is the 1870 foreign enlistment act, the last prosecution of 1870 and the last prosecution under that was brought in 1896. and it was recently described as an antiquated piece of legislation which needs to be modified or scrapped, the problem is that we don't know or i don't know because i'm not a

lawyer, what they would be charged with. but if they were charged with. but if they were charged under that act, then that would also apply. presumably to those british volunteers who are fighting for the ukrainian side . the ukrainian side. >> from what i'm reading here, is that one of the men, ben stimpson, he's previously been convicted for terrorism , for convicted for terrorism, for helping pro—russian separatists and his best friend, is also a convicted felon. former national front member who was jailed for a racist attack, so one of them has already been done for terrorism ? terrorism? >> yes, that's absolutely correct. the problem is, i don't know if the russian army is an internationally proscribed terrorist organisation, and i suspect it isn't , so terrorist, suspect it isn't, so terrorist, legislation may not apply , i legislation may not apply, i mean, they're both fairly despicable characters by all accounts, and they can't be, as i understand it, be stripped of their uk citizenship because to

do so would make them stateless , do so would make them stateless, unlike shamima begum, who had dual citizenship with, bangladesh. and so, in international law, that would be illegal. so i don't know what they can be charged with if and when they return. >> i suppose we can all understand that making someone stateless is a is fairly unviable. they can't go anywhere. have. no. anywhere. they will have. no. but we could we could but i mean, we could we could perhaps through diplomatic back channels what channels say, you know what these guys they your these guys they they love your feudal regime. so much in russia. why don't why don't they take on russian citizenship . we take on russian citizenship. we could sort of perhaps negotiate this, do a do a citizen swap. >> well, there's a thought. i mean, i suspect, looking at the two of them, that the russians would, decline that very kind offer, they're offer, although they're obviously for them obviously happy enough for them to be, in the trenches in ukraine. but, i mean, you know, one of them is 48 years old and, having been in the army, having beenin having been in the army, having been in many, many trenches, i can tell you that being 48 and in the trenches in ukraine and

winter is not a fun thing to do. so i suspect they're both just looking for a little bit of adventure because there's nothing at home for them. so they are sad individuals. nothing at home for them. so they are sad individuals . yeah. they are sad individuals. yeah. >> i mean, stuart, someone's written in and said, why wouldn't they be allowed back if they've been fighting for putin? we directly with we aren't at war directly with putin. may well be putin. they may well be unsavoury characters, but they're not doing anything directly against our country. and russia is not a terror group. so therefore it's nothing like the shamima begum case, what do you say to that analysis ? >> well, 7- >> well, i ? >> well, i mean, 7 >> well, i mean, that's basically just what i've been saying, that i don't understand because i'm not a lawyer. i'm not an international lawyer, under what legislation? they could be charged or there's a moral difference, isn't there. oh yeah. between fighting for ukraine, a country that this country's government is explicitly backing with, with training and with arms and with money versus fighting for an organisation that is taking arms

from iran, that that seems to be issuing nuclear threats towards the west. that seems to have conspiracy theories that the united kingdom is somehow behind all sorts of ills across the world. i mean , russia is an world. i mean, russia is an enemy. >> well, russia is the enemy, it certainly has been since the latest invasion of ukraine. i think there's a general recognition of that. but we are not at war with russia, nor is nato. and so we're in a sort of no man's land here. and these two unsavoury characters, maybe have fallen , between the have fallen, between the floorboards of the current legislation , which would suggest legislation, which would suggest to me that the uk government might be well advised to have a look at what the current legislation is and revise it or amend it as appropriate. >> very interesting indeed , a >> very interesting indeed, a complex issue, lieutenant colonel stuart crawford, thank you very much for joining us colonel stuart crawford, thank you very much forjoining us on you very much for joining us on this show. very interesting indeed, 1896. >> that legislation is talking

about. i mean, i've put some people might say that, you know, we weren't we weren't we weren't that bad. in 1896, britain ruled the waves. maybe, maybe that sort of legislation, i mean, should be, i guess, if relied upon, we're helping to arm the ukrainian army and providing huge amounts of military assistance. >> ergo , putin's russia is >> ergo, putin's russia is certainly the enemy if we're backing, but we're not foe. so therefore does it mean that these men are traitors for fighting? i do understand, stuart. or or if just in the propaganda war, we don't want to be at war with russia as soon as we enter that stage and we do anything towards the position of, of the united kingdom or nato being at war with russia, that's a very dark place. >> that's a much darker place than training ukrainian troops. >> we're sending huge amounts of military sending huge military aid. we're sending huge amounts them to financial amounts of for them to financial aid. course, of course, of aid. of course, of course, of course, interesting course, very interesting question. know what you think. >> vaiews@gbnews.uk on that.

well coming up, are you still proud of the nhs? you've been sending in your views and we're going to get to them after this very short .

break. good afternoon. britain. it is 10 to 1, and a lot of you have been getting in touch on the stories that we've been discussing this program so far. >> yes. we're hearing today that satisfaction with the nhs has fallen to a record low. so we've been asking, are you still proud of the nhs? what has your experience been of the nhs as a patient or as someone working within the nhs or you have a loved one perhaps waiting for nhs treatment? nicola says the nhs treatment? nicola says the nhs is absolutely useless . it's, nhs is absolutely useless. it's, my daughter was repeatedly misdiagnosed with ibs and later died of undiagnosed cancer. i'm

terribly sorry to hear that, nicola. >> well, janice has written in saying my husband received a phone call yesterday telling him to go to a&e immediately as his potassium levels were high. he's been sitting in a&e for 25 hours. oh my goodness. >> hs2 not fit for purpose, says janice. i wonder , i wonder. the janice. i wonder, i wonder. the problem is, is that because people can't see their gp in a reasonable amount of time, a lot of people are being sent to a&e, which is just making the queues for a&e even worse , robert, on for a&e even worse, robert, on the other hand, says the nhs has saved me from bowel and liver cancer more recently a heart cancer and more recently a heart attack. while in hospital, i received top class care and treatment . the problems i faced treatment. the problems i faced were in aftercare, away from the hospital. it's impossible to get a gp appointment, so i was forced to use whether to use a&e. precisely. well, there you go. i mean, i think go. i mean, robert, i think we've got to remember that the nhs. very that they nhs. i'm very thankful that they deau nhs. i'm very thankful that they dealt with you and that your that received class that you've received top class care. remember that you've received top class care.the remember that you've received top class care.the nhs remember that you've received top class care.the nhs i remember that you've received top class care.the nhs i mean member that you've received top class care.the nhs i mean itamber that you've received top class care.the nhs i mean it isiber

that the nhs i mean it is a health service. you know, it should be a given that you get treated. shouldn't have to treated. we shouldn't have to be, we shouldn't have to be overly just being overly thankful for just being able see a doctor. able to see a doctor. >> interesting. what other country do people thank the health care company or the provider of the service? in every country, people thank the doctors and the nurses that treat them . but i think it might treat them. but i think it might be just the uk where we sort of thank the bureaucracy that has provided it rather than the individual. >> it's bizarre, isn't it? yes. because, you know, politicians, they have their little nhs badges, you know, sometimes with the lgbtq flag, to, you know, to add to the, the beauty i don't know. >> and during covid it was the nhs that nicked the lgbt q colours from the lgbt community. oh, they stole the rainbow. it suddenly became the nhs rainbow with all these , you know, with all these, you know, everyone put rainbows in their windows. it was, well, you know what colin says? >> he says the nhs problems start with the general public not looking themselves ,

not looking after themselves, well, you know, that might be true. sometimes the nhs does. the nhs has told us not to eat a whole easter egg because clearly we're incapable of, you know , we're incapable of, you know, rationing ourselves. portion control. are we to blame for the state of the nhs? i don't think so. 50. >> so. >> michael says some politicians seem to have conveniently forgotten or even ignored, the fact that over 1 forgotten or even ignored, the fact that over1 million extra fact that over 1 million extra immigrants have entered the country year. country over the past year. how can hospitals, schools, doctors house building up? although house building keep up? although statistically migrants coming in will be less likely to use the nhs because they'll be younger, they'll use it in the years to come. but right now they might not be the biggest drain on resources within the nhs. in fact, more people might be adding to, extra funds. >> i don't know about that because mostly if you arrive in this country, you're going to sign up with a gp pretty sharpish and you're going to need and going to need care and you're going to have and you're going have dependence and you're going to and need to have babies and need maternity care, you're going to need different

need all sorts of different care. and of course, you're going to get old too. at the going to get old too. and at the same point, we can't seem to build hospitals a timely fashion. no, you're absolutely right fashion. noin ou're absolutely right fashion. noin termsibsolutely right fashion. noin terms ofolutely right fashion. noin terms of wheny right fashion. noin terms of when they |t fashion. noin terms of when they get there. in terms of when they get older, it will be a problem. but i the moment the i think at the moment the problems don't arise from the growth population. if growth in population. well, if anything need a larger of anything we need a larger of course, you have larger course, if you have a larger population and don't build population and you don't build enough hospitals and gp services population and you don't build enordentists itals and gp services population and you don't build enordentists asls and gp services population and you don't build enordentists as well, gp services population and you don't build enordentists as well, dentistvices and dentists as well, dentist surgeries, problem too. >> yes, you are going to have, you know, difficulties. >> but people are tend >> but younger people are tend to net contributors, whereas to be net contributors, whereas older people. >> not sure if that's >> well i'm not sure if that's across the board, coming across the board, but coming up we're talking sewage. new figures show there figures of course show there were than 3,000,000 hours were more than 3,000,000 hours of but who's of spills last year. but who's to blame? where are these spills? and what, if anything , spills? and what, if anything, can be done? this is good afternoon britain here on gb news britain's election . channel. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb

news. >> welcome to your latest weather update from the met office for gb news. the weather remains very lively. heavy downpours across much of the uk today. it's still pretty gusty and blustery as well. and here's the reason why low pressure continues to dominate these weather fronts. spiralling bands of across the uk. it's been of rain across the uk. it's been particularly wet in northern ireland, the warning in ireland, where the warning in place until three this place here until three this afternoon, a line rain afternoon, a line of rain working its into eastern working its way into eastern england. ahead of that we have seen some sunshine, sunny seen some sunshine, some sunny spells also spells following, but also a whole of blustery showers whole host of blustery showers blown in by a gusty wind and the wet weather across scotland falling low levels, falling as rain at low levels, but some snow over the higher routes possible here. cold feeling day in northern scotland, elsewhere. well scotland, 6 or 7 elsewhere. well just double digits, but just about double digits, but still chilly for end still feeling chilly for the end of march. more heavy showers will northwards overnight will spread northwards overnight and this zone of wet weather will be again mostly rain at low levels but could provide some snow, particularly across parts of the west midlands, up towards

nonh of the west midlands, up towards north wales, down towards gloucestershire for tomorrow morning. it's going turn morning. it's going to turn windy again tomorrow as windy again through tomorrow as well, particularly from the southwest, rain comes southwest, as further rain comes in here. it will be a chilly night in scotland. a touch of frost but northern frost here, but northern scotland should see some sunny spells thursday . another spells during thursday. another band rain swings up from band of rain then swings up from the and very blustery the south and very blustery conditions along the south coast. met office coast. there's a met office yellow warning place for yellow warning in place for those winds and again from those gusty winds and again from mid—morning onwards, it's another day of heavy showers and again feeling on the chilly side. 10 to 12 at best. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers, sponsors of weather on

gb news. away. >> good afternoon. britain. it's 1:00 on wednesday, the 27th of march. the shocking figures, which reveal that spills of raw

sewage, along with rainwater into england's rivers and seas , into england's rivers and seas, are the worst on record. >> last year, there were more than 3,000,000 hours of spillage. but who's to blame and what can be done ? what can be done? >> just 1 in 4 of us are satisfied with the performance of the nhs, new figures reveal . of the nhs, new figures reveal. that's the lowest level on record. are you still proud of our nhs? well, here our junior our nhs? well, here ourjunior doctors take on it. >> and should wealthy people pay more for the bbc licence fee? theidea more for the bbc licence fee? the idea has been floated by the corporation's director general . corporation's director general. would that be a more progressive and fair method of funding, or will more people end up simply paying will more people end up simply paying more? we'll be debating this shortly. the bbc licence fee is regressive. it's a regressive

tax, but i'm not sure that the answer to fix it is to simply say, okay, we'll make rich people pay more. i mean , you people pay more. i mean, you could just make it, not a tax. i mean, would you ask rich people to pay more for the same sandwich that someone on a lower income bought? >> would you ask them to pay more for a washing machine , than more for a washing machine, than a poor person would pay for a washing machine? i mean, where does this end? you can't always means test everything. also, should netflix be cheaper if you're on a low income? but. >> well, the interesting thing is netflix does offer different products. you can pay more for the no ads version or pay less for a version with adverts. i mean, that seems like a reasonable market offer, it doesn't seem so reasonable to means test it, and you can only means test it, and you can only means test it, and you can only means test a product like that. if you're operating it like a tax. but i think the big criticism, that people have is that this is a service that not

everyone uses, but everyone who watches tv has to pay for. >> and the problem is tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of people are dropping out of the licence fee altogether. every year. so this is just one, know, is just one, you know, suggestion to try and claw back some of that money. but i mean, what are they going to do, charge you double if you earn more 60 grand year or 100 more than 60 grand a year or 100 grand a year or 100? i mean, it's you know, more people it's just, you know, more people will not will say, actually, i'm not going to it at all. i'm not going to pay it at all. i'm not going to pay it at all. i'm not going to pay it at all. i'm not going to pay it at all. and then, you know, what do you say about pensioners, whether they should a reduced or not should pay a reduced rate or not at i think the licence fee at all? i think the licence fee as a concept is on its last legs. i mean, with all of these competing services, competing streaming services, people value people just don't see the value as did before. or perhaps as they did before. or perhaps you perhaps you think you disagree. perhaps you think the bbc is as an institution is something needs to something that needs to be protected. yes, rich protected. and yes, the rich should the pleasure should pay more for the pleasure of it. >> the pleasure it. well, on >> the pleasure of it. well, on that note, we'll get to that. and so more after and so many more stories after your tatiana .

and. >> tom, thank you and good afternoon. the top stories from the gb newsroom public satisfaction with the nhs has fallen to its lowest level since records began 40 years ago, with waiting times among the biggest concerns. a poll found that difficulty accessing gps is also a major worry, with the number of people satisfied with the health service now just 24. that's down from 70% in 2010. rates have dissatisfaction are roughly the same across both major political parties. the report found that tightening funding and chronic workforce shortages over the past decade has left the nhs in a continual state of crisis. education secretary gillian keegan says the government is committed to making improvements . the nhs has making improvements. the nhs has had, you know, to deal with the pandemic and we all know that that has created huge backlogs and huge waiting lists and we're all committed to catch up to provide a faster, simpler,

fairer nhs. >> we're investing £165 billion a year. obviously if you're investing that much, you want to have people satisfied with the service they're getting. but we do know that we've been tackling , i mean, think for the last four months, the waiting lists have started come but have started to come down, but we're huge backlog. we're tackling a huge backlog. what's actually what's interesting is actually england , the conservative england, the conservative run england, the conservative run england performance and the england the performance and the catch up is much better than in labour run wales or in snp run scotland . scotland. >> we asked people in manchester for their thoughts on britain's health service once you get there, yes, but it's actually getting through the gp to getting through the gp to getting to the nhs. >> i think that a lot of money is wasted talking to people that work or have worked within the nhs, the amount of waste is phenomenal. so i think they need to look at the management, it needs to start at the top. >> thankfully i don't use it a lot, but i'm currently on the waiting list for one of the hospitals in for manchester 12

andifs hospitals in for manchester 12 and it's a 52 week wait. >> we should make it like a more accessible thing. >> satisfied because >> i am satisfied because there's a lot of hard working nurses, doctors, surgeons like you see the care they give you. and plus i had three of my children here and the care i received was perfect . received was perfect. >> now, those 854% increase in sewage in england's waterways last year compared to 2022, pushing figures to their highest level. the environment agency says it's due to storm overflows with untreated sewage, jumped into rivers and seas . it with untreated sewage, jumped into rivers and seas. it comes amid rising concern for the state of england's waterways , state of england's waterways, with a part of the river thames that's to be used for the boat race this weekend, found to be contaminated with e coli . the contaminated with e coli. the environment agency's director of water, helen wakeham, says it's disappointing but not surprising. >> the environment agency required water companies to monitor all their discharges. we've got 100% coverage now of the sewage network and that

accounts for some of the increase. but actually it just shows the scale of storm overflow operation in a wet yeah overflow operation in a wet year. and the purpose of putting the monitoring in place was to make an argument for more regulation and more investment in storm overflows. and i think , in storm overflows. and i think, you know, the results from last year show exactly why that's required . required. >> the search for survivors following yesterday's bridge collapse in baltimore has been suspended, with six people presumed dead. video footage captured the moment a cargo ship crashed into the francis scott key bridge at around 130 yesterday morning, local time. the collision plunged cars, their drivers and construction workers into the water below. if you're watching us on tv, this is the scene in baltimore this morning. you can see the wreckage of the bridge in that cargo ship still in the water. the city's port, which is one of the busiest in the east of the united states, is now closed indefinitely. a review has found

that a ten month old baby who was murdered by his parents just weeks after being handed back to them, should have been in protective care. finley bowden's parents, shannon marston and steven bowden, inflicted over 100 injuries on their son before he died at his family home in chesterfield, derbyshire, on christmas day, 2020. they were given life sentences in may. a safeguarding review found practices in the local authority were inadequate. it said that while finley's parents were responsible for his death, professional interventions should have protected him . a should have protected him. a mural by banksy in north london has been fenced off by a local council . the artwork in has been fenced off by a local council. the artwork in finsbury park features splashes of green paint on a residential building behind a cut back tree, giving the appearance of lush green leaves. credit was claimed by the street artist on his social media. but just days after it was vandalised with white paint, islington council says it's

discussing future solutions with the home owner that will enable everyone to enjoy the artwork while also protecting it . for while also protecting it. for the latest stories , sign up to the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. com slash alerts. now back to tom and . emily. back to tom and. emily. >> it's 108 back to tom and. emily. >> it's108 and back to tom and. emily. >> it's 108 and sewage back to tom and. emily. >> it's108 and sewage spills >> it's 108 and sewage spills have hit a record high with waste leaking into rivers and seas. more than doubling in the last year. >> figures released by the environment agency show that there were 3.6 million hours of spills, compared to 1.7 5,000,000 hours in 2022. so that's up by a considerable degree in just one year. >> now the environment agency, they say it's due to storm overflows with untreated sewage dumped into rivers and seas, with spills at their highest since 2016. >> gb news east midlands reporter will hollis joins us now from gedling in nottingham .

now from gedling in nottingham. and will let's hope that there isn't much flow behind you at the moment . the moment. >> yes, well, campaigners have described it as the final damning indictment of a failing industry, this one where we are industry, this one where we are in gedling. >> if i just step to the side so you can see a little bit more. the data revealed today highlighted that 350 and 15 hours worth of sewage was spilled into this particular waterway , which is in a waterway, which is in a residential area right next to a main road that's 13 days, tom and emily. but that's only a fraction of the picture. nationally, 3.6 million hours, which is double on the previous year of 2022. now both the government and the water companies have said that this is unacceptable, but the reason that they're blaming this on is particularly because of wet weather. now these kinds of sewage systems not only take the

things that are flushed down the toilet, but they also take rain as well . and last year, they as well. and last year, they say, was the sixth wettest year on record. and to prevent flooding they have to put water thatis flooding they have to put water that is overflowing into sewage systems and overflow systems like this. now we know that this is a huge problem. campaigners say it's the final damning indictment. labour says that there should be a ban on bonuses for ceos of polluting companies, those polluting companies under the body water uk. they say that they're investing a triple amount of money into preventing this problem, and if they continue doing it in the way that they are doing, by the year 2030, there will be a 40% reduction in sewage waste being spilled into england's systems. >> very much indeed . will will >> very much indeed. will will hollis there in nottingham ? hollis there in nottingham? >> goodness me. when i was a kid iused >> goodness me. when i was a kid i used to play poohsticks with the family. i used to play that. i didn't think it would become literal, but, let's speak to the chief executive river action,

chief executive of river action, james wallace. and james, is it true that 2023, not only the highest year on record of measuring these overflows, it was the first year that 100% of storm overflow drains have actually been measured . actually been measured. >> thanks for having me on. and yes, that is true . and the data, yes, that is true. and the data, regardless is extremely worrying. what we see here is the result of decades of deregulation and defunding of the environment agency, who've lost their teeth in order to hold to account these polluters. if we look where we are now, i'm actually at fulham reach boat club ahead of the boat race on the thames at the weekend, and we've seen that thames water themselves discharged themselves have discharged absolutely huge quantities. >> looking at about >> we're looking at about 200,000 hours for just one organisation on one catchment, and this is causing a massive health crisis. we have put together some results after a month of testing for pathogens, and we've discovered e.coli, which can make you very, very ill. >> in fact , it can even

>> in fact, it can even hospitalise you. and those quantities are the volume of about 10,000 colonies of e.coli per 100ml. in real terms. >> what that means is ten times worse than the worst rating for bathing water status. >> so we've actually had to issue guidance to rowers to make sure that it's safe for them to compete in this weekend's race. >> it's absolutely horrendous, the labour party have done some analysis, and they say that water company bosses have received over £25 million in bonuses and incentives since the last general election. do you agree that there should be a ban on bonuses for ceos of polluting water companies ? water companies? >> i do agree, and it should be a lot more than that. i think some of these people should be held criminally responsible as well. there's a lot of activity here is below the radar and here that is below the radar and below law, and it's been below the law, and it's been allowed to happen for long allowed to happen for a long time. i've just said, what we time. as i've just said, what we really need to see here, and i'll thames water again as i'll use thames water again as an example, because it's very personal of boat personal at the head of the boat race debts accruing race that we have debts accruing in particular

in this particular organisation's case, up to about £18 they're due to £18 billion. they're due to repay 190 million april repay 100, 190 million in april and so what have and they can't. so what have they done. gone to the they done. they've gone to the regulator the environment regulator ofwat, the environment agency please agency and they said please don't please don't don't prosecute us, please don't enforce instead let us enforce the law. instead let us off the hook. and what we would like see is not only ceo like to see is not only ceo bonuses also for bonuses vanish, but also for an organisation that that's organisation like that that's completely failing, failing for its environment. we'd its customers environment. we'd like to see it taken into special administration. >> are likely to just see >> are we likely to just see instead, for instead, far higher bills for all us? that's what the water all of us? that's what the water companies are asking for. >> well, yeah. and again, in the case of thames water, they're looking at a 40% increase. but to would say, come on to that i would say, come on now. you've had bills payers money fix these now. you've had bills payers monejpipes. fix these now. you've had bills payers monejpipes. climate fix these now. you've had bills payers monejpipes. climate change se leaky pipes. climate change and extra not new. it's extra rainfall is not new. it's been coming for a long time. and it's been warned about us for years so been years too. so there's been plenty so if we're plenty of time. so if we're going increase bills, it going to increase bills, it needs to be incrementally and very it needs to be very slowly, and it needs to be after have after shareholders have coughed up sure that when up and to make sure that when they so, they put the needs they do so, they put the needs of the public bill paying public and tax paying public first alongside nature then

alongside nature and then investors having investors come last, having demonstrated trusted i >> -- >> such a hum >> such a tricky piece of a puzzle to put together. building so much more infrastructure for the to take the extra capacity if they just turned off the storm overflow drains, we'd see sewage bubbling up into our homes, which no one would want. this is a very long term project to fix. but james, you lay out some of those problems there really, really clearly. thank you very much for joining us. james wallace chief executive of river action. >> imagine were a rower >> imagine if you were a rower and you fall out of the boat for and you fall out of the boat for a reason, and then you end up getting e.coli and being hospitalised. yeah but imagine if your living if you're sitting in your living room think, what's that smell? >> and the loos just bubbling up because turned off the because they turned off the storm overflow? >> that does sometimes happen, storm overflow? >> thatit?»es sometimes happen, storm overflow? >> thatit? in sometimes happen, storm overflow? >> thatit? in a)metimes happen, storm overflow? >> thatit? in a statement,appen, doesn't it? in a statement, water uk said these are water uk said these results are unacceptable demonstrate unacceptable and demonstrate exactly need exactly why we urgently need regulatory approval to upgrade our can better cope our system so it can better cope with the weather. >> actually that's a really important point water important point from water uk. there plans there are so many plans to upgrade of stuff that upgrade some of this stuff that are stuck, that haven't got are just stuck, that haven't got planning permission, that haven't approval

yet. yeah, but they're asking for >> yeah, but they're asking for they're also asking for money. they're lots of money they're asking for lots of money and they're receiving lots and they're also receiving lots of anyway, of money. but anyway, a damning new survey has revealed that pubuc new survey has revealed that public satisfaction nhs public satisfaction with the nhs has an all time has plummeted to an all time low. only 24% of respondents said they were pleased with the performance of britain's beleaguered health service. >> waiting times and >> yes, health waiting times and staff shortages were cited as patients primary concerns, as new data marks a sharp decline in public confidence in the nhs since 2020, when satisfaction was over 50. >> well, we can now get the thoughts of junior doctor, doctor bhasha mukherjee basher, thank you very much for joining us on the show, are you surprised by this data? people clearly are not satisfied at all with the service that the nhs is providing . providing. >> you know, i'm not surprised at all because as much as i'm a health care worker, i'm a patient myself and my dad has diabetes. he's got a long term health condition . he's moving to health condition. he's moving to india now because, you know, he can't access the health care as

he wants to. and i actually am really happy about that. really. >> he's moving. he's moving to india because of the situation in the nhs here. so he thinks he'll get better care in india than he would at the nhs. will he be paying privately in india? >> he will be paying privately, but bear in mind, he's been paying but bear in mind, he's been paying taxes for years and years and years and to get an appointment for him with his health condition , he hardly gets health condition, he hardly gets an opportunity and he has to work to get go in to see the gp line up outside queue. and it's we all know that the system is struggling and you know, it's not just, the patients who are dissatisfied. i am as a health care professional, what i came into this field for, i don't feel satisfied myself. i have to start each conversation with the patient saying, sorry, you have to wait so long. and i didn't want to be doing that either. and it feels like you have to gatekeep all these referral

pathways because the funding isn't there, or you have to tell patients the disappointing truth about how long the waiting list is. or there's this shortage of this medication and that. so it is a really , dire situation. and is a really, dire situation. and i'm disappointed situation. >> but but how much of this is covid? because in 2019, satisfaction was 60. now of course, down to just a quarter. it seems like this is coincided with a global pandemic, 100. >> and i agree that covid has definitely been the biggest problem and followed that with brexit as well. but if you've just got to look at the sharp staff shortages, rs 40,000 nursing vacancies, 10,000 doctor vacancies and now the public are noticing this themselves and they're saying staff shortages is part of the reason why they're dissatisfied. and we're focusing on staff retention. we're still not thinking about paying we're still not thinking about paying nurses and junior doctors and consultants fairly. where do you think you're going to keep these staff from? we can't just

keep hauling staff from all across the world to try and fill these gaps. clearly the public is with way is un unhappy with the way things are. >> no, it's important that you referenced that there are, recruitment gaps. but it is also important to note that there are more doctors and nurses in more doctors and more nurses in the than ever before. just the nhs than ever before. just not quite as much as as the targets would like. we have run out of time here doctor mukherjee, but really appreciate your time and your thoughts on this issue. >> how do you feel about >> well, how do you feel about the nhs? our north west of england sophie reaper, england reporter sophie reaper, has to people in has been speaking to people in manchester. now . manchester. she joins us now. sophie, the people of manchester, satisfied sophie, the people of man

years , but it is absolutely now, years, but it is absolutely now, as this data shows, at its lowest ever point since records beganin lowest ever point since records began in 1983. but that doesn't mean that people aren't happy with the idea of the nhs people still supporting the idea of an nhs paid for by the taxpayer , nhs paid for by the taxpayer, paid for that can be accessed for free whenever people need it. but it's the service that people are receiving that they are dissatisfied with. 24% of people, only 24% of people saying that they are indeed satisfied with that service. i've been here in manchester today asking people what they think of this, and here's what they had to tell me. >> i would say the waiting list has gone up, so much people can't get into the, into the hospital, they can't get the appointments. >> so it's a waiting list has gone up so much and they have to wait months and months and months for the appointments or sometimes years. >> and what do you think can be done to try and tackle this as

an issue, i would say, more doctors, more nurses . yeah. doctors, more nurses. yeah. >> and of course that needs more money. >> absolutely. yeah. more funding. yes. yeah, i haven't had many problems actually, in terms of , health care or getting terms of, health care or getting appointments. i've had it fairly easy, so what is it, do you think, then, that why so many people are unhappy? what is it could that could be causing that? >> i think it's the i think one of the contributing causes might be a lack of physicians. and there excessive waiting times. and i've heard a lot of stories from my colleagues and my friends that even in cases of emergency , there are people emergency, there are people being made to wait in the waiting room for hours at a time, even with, you know, broken legs or fractures or situations like those . situations like those. >> and i think those two members of the public, we just heard from them really did capture the mood of the nation. the issues with staff shortages, waiting times for appointments, lack of funding, all of those things

amounting to, let's be honest, dissatisfaction with our nhs . dissatisfaction with our nhs. thank you very much indeed, sophie reaper, for bringing us those views from manchester outside manchester university. >> yeah, which i think has to be one of the most attractive hospitals in the country. it's good looking. we need to build more . i think more architecture. i think you'll feel like you you'll probably feel like you get better you don't get treated better if you don't walk a concrete monolith. walk into a concrete monolith. if walk into nice looking if you walk into a nice looking well put together, brick well put together, red brick hospital like that one. >> but are they as energy efficient as some of the newer monstrosities? tom i imagine not definitely more. >> they're definitely more attractive. they're better for patients than some of the draughty concrete inhuman slabs probably made with rak concrete. you know how they're talking about the 1960s? >> well, it's talking about the staff shortages, and yes , we staff shortages, and yes, we have increased massively the number of doctors and nurses over recent years in the nhs, but i wonder if a lot of them are working part time. i mean, anecdotally, i know from from

junior doctors, friends, they go part quite quickly or quite often. >> what they do is they, they take on, a job and realise that actually they can get more time as a, as a locum member of staff, they can get more pay as a locum member of staff than a permanent member of staff. so you just get those huge inefficiencies of temporary workers. >> funnily enough, people are motivated money. motivated by money. >> doctors were all >> i thought doctors were all motivated by a sense of, of caring. >> both , both both still to >> both, both both still to come. if you're rich , should you come. if you're rich, should you have to pay more for the bbc licence fee? i guess what does rich mean to the bbc? the idea has been floated by the corporation's director general is something we think is worth debating

well, the bbc's director general has floated the idea that wealthier brits should pay more for the bbc licence fee. >> could this be a fairer way of charging viewers ? and exactly charging viewers? and exactly who counts as wealthy? who will be paying more? well, we're going to debate this, general principle now. joining us to discuss this is the former bbc executive and presenter roger bolton, who thinks that richer paying bolton, who thinks that richer paying more in practice is a great idea . and the former bbc great idea. and the former bbc news producer and director of news producer and director of news watch, david kelly, who thinks that this is further nonsense from the bbc. well, david, strong words, let's start with you . with you. >> yes, i think it's nonsense , >> yes, i think it's nonsense, first of all, as well, i think it's political opportunism , it's it's political opportunism, it's rather an a rather interesting thing, the of this, just thing, the timing of this, just as new labour is as labour is expected to be elected, up comes the director general of the bbc with a message let's kane the

rich, in in in the licence fee. i think underneath that though there are other objections in that. how on earth will the will this be administered? it means that the there's already a huge bureaucracy involved in collection. the licence fee. what the corporation will have to do in some way is find out who is rich and who is not, and how they're going to do that. i just don't know. so i think it's a non flyer and i think it's yet again the bbc trying to save its own hide coming up with a political opportunist way of doing things. >> i mean roger we said you said the rich should pay more in practice is a great idea. i think you meant i think we meant in theory is a good idea. in practice it might be difficult. i would argue that, rich people already pay more tax. so why on earth should they pay more for the bbc licence fee as well ?

the bbc licence fee as well? >> well, you could take the view that everybody should be the same for everything. >> which means that the rich do rather well, don't they? and the rather well, don't they? and the rather don't do very well rather poor don't do very well at if you're talking at all. and if you're talking about public service, you have to. >> you're trying to provide something everybody, something for everybody, regardless or how regardless of how rich or how poor are. that's the poor they are. so that's the fundamental problem. how do you provide for everybody and provide it for everybody and enable to access? enable everybody to have access? the rich always have the rich will always have access. can do anything of access. they can do anything of course, if you've got course, people say if you've got enough can enough money, you can do anything you what about anything you can. but what about those people who haven't? they'd be services. the be denied these services. so the question is you pay for it. question is how you pay for it. and the present as as and the present system as as david would argue, is regressive in sense that everybody pays david would argue, is regressive in same.se that everybody pays david would argue, is regressive in same. although erybody pays david would argue, is regressive in same. although there dy pays david would argue, is regressive in same. although there are�*ays the same. although there are there people who it there are some people who get it for nothing, everybody saves for nothing, but everybody saves the in principle, the the same. so in principle, the idea better off should idea that the better off should pay idea that the better off should pay than worse off for pay more than the worse off for a service is a national service is reasonable, i think. and that's our approach generally to taxation , isn't it? income tax taxation, isn't it? income tax and so on is based upon a gradual station. so those who are the poorest pay least as a principle. i don't oppose it. i

think it's difficult in practice , but i think the debate ought to be do we need public service broadcasting? is the bbc the best way of delivering it, and how much should we pay for it? and the director general's speech did thank heaven, and if not before time promised a really proper consultation pefiod really proper consultation period with the public about what they want because their bbc is not the bbc, it's theirs. so do we want public service broadcasting? does the bbc still the best way of delivering it? how do we pay for it? that's the order of events we bakhmut let's throw these questions right back oveh throw these questions right back over, because frankly, the idea of public service broadcasting to some extent has been undermined in recent years, with the bbc, chasing after audiences rather than doing things that the market might not necessarily provide itself. well, it's got to do two things, hasn't it? it has to become it has to do with market failure. and where this market failure. and where this market failure, children programming, not having you got to do market failure. then on

the other hand, it has to provide something for everybody. if everybody's paying for it, it's always had to write these two horses. >> hang on, david, what's >> well hang on, david, what's your view? do you think it is fairer? the bbc is seen as a pubuc fairer? the bbc is seen as a public service and therefore, you know, those with the broadest shoulders should pay more. and the bbc, as an institution is worth protecting. what's your view , i think the what's your view, i think the broadcasting environment , since broadcasting environment, since the bbc was founded over 100 years ago now has changed beyond recognition . and we all know why recognition. and we all know why thatis recognition. and we all know why that is happening. there's streaming services, and i think the question for the next bbc charter period, because that's what tim davie was discussing. and i agree with roger here is, where does the bbc fit into that, and obviously there are different opinions on that. i don't think personally , and i don't think personally, and i know a lot of other people don't

think that the bbc can survive as the monolith it is at the moment trying to please everyone, and not succeeding . i everyone, and not succeeding. i also think that what the director general should be looking at in this review, as well , is just looking at in this review, as well, is just how looking at in this review, as well , is just how impartial looking at in this review, as well, is just how impartial the bbc is. it's relevant. there are an awful lot of people out there saying in surveys that they're no longer convinced that the bbc is impartial , and that's part of the. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> can you just let me finish? i think that's sorry. that's that's that is something else that's that is something else that should be brought into the equafion that should be brought into the equation here, david, just as as a former news person, david, you recognise that when the country is very divided with foreign policy, say, gaza , israel or at policy, say, gaza, israel or at home, the bbc gets it in the neck. home, the bbc gets it in the neck . so it would be inevitable neck. so it would be inevitable that when the country is divided, the bbc is thought to

be less impartial by those who are committed and you yourself are committed and you yourself are committed and you yourself are committed person on the right. you've lobbied in this way. there are other people on the who would argue the bbc the left who would argue the bbc is the right. is biased towards the right. when get divisive , when you get really divisive, divisive issues, that's when the bbc the cosh . it's not bbc is under the cosh. it's not surprising, doesn't mean it's less impartial. it's mean that we a divided country i >> -- >> david, i don't believe that the bbc understands the impartial rmt issue anymore. i don't think that, tim davie, although it came into his, his, his post saying that he was going to make impartiality his number one priority. i don't think he's done anything to redress the concerns that there are out there at the moment. i know that's not true. i and roger that. the britain is more divided in some ways, but the bbc, i think, has progressively become more biased in its coverage of lots of issues and

we are running we are running to the end of, of this section. >> i'm afraid we're going to have to leave it there. but gentlemen, thank you so much for your impassioned views. you've put your cases, both in put across your cases, both in your usual ways. thank you. >> roger bolton and david cayley. there but still to come, a news exclusive. the mother a gb news exclusive. the mother of transgender of brianna ghey, the transgender teenager to teenager who was stabbed to death year olds. she's death by 215 year olds. she's speaking to us about her campaign for child safe phones. that's your news headlines i >> -- >> we start m >> we start this hour with breaking news. audio has emerged detailing the moment that emergency workers tried to prevent traffic from driving onto the bridge in baltimore shortly before it collapsed. >> any one of you guys on the south side , one of you guys on south side, one of you guys on the north side hold all traffic on the key bridge. >> there's a ship approaching it just lost their steering . so just lost their steering. so until they get that under control, we got to stop all

traffic. >> well, that comes after the search for survivors was suspended with six people presumed dead. video footage captured the moment a cargo ship crashed into the francis scott key bridge yesterday morning . key bridge yesterday morning. the city's port, which is one of the busiest in the east of the united states, is now closed indefinitely . public indefinitely. public satisfaction with the nhs has fallen to its lowest level since records began 40 years ago, with waiting times among the biggest concerns , a poll found. concerns, a poll found. difficulty accessing gps is also a major worry, with the number of people satisfied with the health service now just 24. that's down from 70% in 2010. the report found that tightening funding and chronic workforce shortages over the past decade has left the nhs in a continual state of crisis . there was a 54% state of crisis. there was a 54% increase in sewage in england waterways last year compared to 2022, pushing figures to their

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i >> -- >> it's 140. emma >> it's 140. we can now bring >> it's140. we can now bring you a gb news exclusive. last february, transgender teenager brianna ghey was murdered. she was stabbed 28 times by 215 year olds she thought were her friends. >> her mother, esther, has

spoken to this show and is campaigning for child safe phones for under 16 seconds, which she believes would have saved her daughter's life. our reporter elena smith brings us this report with the soul of the party. >> i suppose , and she was, she >> i suppose, and she was, she was so outgoing and she was so out there and, yeah, she was also very, like, defiant . and also very, like, defiant. and she would she would do whatever she would she would do whatever she wanted to do . she wanted to do. >> this is the last time transgender teenager brianna ghey left her house. she was murdered in february last year , murdered in february last year, stabbed 28 times with a hunting knife by scarlett jenkinson and eddie ratcliffe. 215 year olds she thought were her friends . she thought were her friends. brianna's mum esther thinks all of this could have been avoided if social media safeguards had blocked her daughter's killers from looking at torture and murder. >> online children have access

to absolutely everything that's in the world now. the cons aren't that they might access and the content that they're then referred through the algorithm. it's kind of radicalising children . radicalising children. >> and it wasn't just scarlett and eddie that were accessing dangerous content online. esther believes that part of the reason brianna was so vulnerable was because she was addicted to her phone. >> when brianna was with us, it was a massive argument point in our house. i was worried about what she was accessing online. i've lost brianna at a very young when she was very young, and i wish that we didn't have all of those arguments. i wish that it was, i just i kind of wish that i had that support as a parent in the first place. >> and if not, and esther is not alone. >> tory mp and child safety campaigner miriam cates believes smartphones are damaging a whole generation of children. it's

becoming increasingly clear that, smartphones and social media have had a very detrimental impact on children and childhood. >> and if you look at any measure of children and teen wellbeing, so whether that's depression, anxiety , actual depression, anxiety, actual suicide, all of those measures have gone off a cliff since 2010, 2012, when smartphones and social media became ubiquitous for children. we've got to stop it quickly. otherwise, we are condemning, our further generation to that kind of, mental health problem. >> while it's too late for brianna, esther says she won't stop campaigning to make sure it doesn't happen again . doesn't happen again. >> she struggled for a couple of years before she passed away, for and me, that just feels like such a waste of life . and, if i such a waste of life. and, if i can make things better for all the young people, then, then i'll keep working in order to do that. >> ellen is terribly, terribly sad . i mean, it's clear a lot of

sad. i mean, it's clear a lot of parents just do not know what their children are accessing on their children are accessing on their mobile phones , whether their mobile phones, whether it's who they're communicating with, whether it's what they're seeing on social media. and i think depending on the child and i'm talking in general, but depending on the child, it can have a really detrimental impact on mood , on their anxiety on mood, on their anxiety levels, on self—esteem and the way they view themselves. constant comparisons are being made. yes, it can be a tool for good of course it can. and it can connect people who would never have been connected before. and they can share hobbies and interests and all of that. but i think something needs to change in terms of our relationship with our mobile phones and social media, because i do think for a lot of children , it is quite damaging. >> i think it's interesting how esther ghey speaking to us there wasn't necessarily talking about social media when it came to the

death of brianna. she was talking about what brianna ghey killers were looking up on their phones, what they were doing on the internet in general, what videos they were watching. this isn't stuff that was on facebook and twitter or in instagram and snapchat , but this was stuff snapchat, but this was stuff that was on darker and deeper corners of the internet , and i corners of the internet, and i think it opens up the conversation , doesn't it? conversation, doesn't it? >> i mean, we heard from miriam cates in that report about social media in general and the impact of smartphones on children's wellbeing. and for example , you could see something example, you could see something on social media and it could lead you through a rabbit hole into darker content. i mean, take, for example, eating disorders. it used to be a massive trend that people would find pictures that were , you find pictures that were, you know, encouraging people to lose weight, glorify dying, losing weight, glorify dying, losing weight, and lots of young girls and also boys got stuck in this trap of thinking they shouldn't

eat. and we're just getting skinnier and skinnier and skinnier and skinnier and skinnier and skinnier and skinnier and more and more unhealthy and more and more depressed. frankly, we talk about this data if it's, about this data as if it's, absolute unambiguous, but but it isn't unambiguous. >> i mean, the suicide rate for young girls , as it stands, this young girls, as it stands, this decade is not different to that, that it was in previous decades. >> i think i completely disagree with you on this one, because i do think social media, yes, but not everything. you can just prove through data and you're going to look at who funds that data and everything that goes into reports, data and everything that goes into how reports, data and everything that goes into how children,»rts, data and everything that goes into how children, teenagers, because how children, teenagers, parents, one you parents, schools, every one you talk to is concerned with the impact that social media and some media sites are happening on children's minds. you're hugely impressionable. i, for one, probably think that children were happier when they didn't have their noses in social media, thinking that everyone else has a better life than them thinking going down, horribly rabbit holes, horribly damaging rabbit holes, feeling like they've been left out from this party or they don't have any friends or

they're being bullied. they're being groups they're being bullied. they're being people groups they're being bullied. they're being people are groups they're being bullied. they're being people are callingjroups they're being bullied. they're being people are calling them where people are calling them names, genuinely i'm not names, i genuinely do. i'm not calling ban social calling for a ban on social media, a ban on media, not calling for a ban on phones for young people. but i do think something we have do think it's something we have to mindful of. i think to be mindful of. and i think the amount of time children are spending in their rooms, just looking phone is not looking at their phone is not good. mean, least because good. i mean, not least because they reading books. they could be reading books. isn't a role for parents? isn't this a role for parents? >> yeah. isn't a for >> yeah. isn't this a role for parents make sure that what parents to make sure that what children when we say children access and when we say children, mean there's children, there's i mean there's a difference between a wealth of difference between someone eight years old someone who's eight years old and old. and someone who's 16 years old. these, these are two these, these these are two completely categories completely different categories of people. i worry about of people. and i worry about placing same rules, just placing the same rules, just saying the word children and just assuming that all of these people are precisely the same . people are precisely the same. perhaps a graduated access to this stuff. more tools for parents to use rather than a one size fits all approach. i know growing up that i had friends all over the world. there are so many, brilliant,

all over the world. there are so many, brilliant , advances that many, brilliant, advances that have been made in connecting people. i suppose to some extent it's about marrying the good with safety. yeah i think than one size fits all approach. >> yeah. i think fundamentally , >> yeah. i think fundamentally, parents do need to take an active role in what their children are looking at. and of course, children and teenagers aren't going to want their parents be looking at their parents to be looking at their phones. perhaps that is phones. but perhaps that is necessary considering the dangers, the very real dangers that anyway, coming up that there are anyway, coming up , we'll getting to your views , we'll be getting to your views on the stories covered. on all of the stories covered. let what you make of let us know what you make of this whole discussion around around social media. do around phones, social media. do you something be you think something needs to be done? down to the parents done? is it down to the parents just to, you keep an eye just to, you know, keep an eye on what's

us. >> good afternoon. britain. it's 10 to 2. and an update now on

that huge story of that bridge collapse in the united states yesterday . yesterday. >> yes. audio of the emergency crews responding to reports of the collision has now been released. should we take a listen? >> any one of you guys on the south side, one of you guys on the north side hold all traffic on the key bridge. there's a ship approaching it. just lost their steering. so until you get that under control, we gotta stop traffic . okay? we're stop all traffic. okay? we're all on the route to the south side . just starting, i'm all on the route to the south side .just starting, i'm holding side. just starting, i'm holding traffic now. i was driving, but we stopped prior to the bridge, so i'll have all the traffic stopped for. is there a crew working on the bridge right now ? working on the bridge right now? okay. online video . good now, okay. online video. good now, traffic on our site right now . traffic on our site right now. yeah. if we can stop traffic, just make sure no one's on the bfidge just make sure no one's on the bridge right now. i'm not sure where, there's a crew up there.

you might want to notify whoever the foreman is, see if we can get them off the bridge temporarily. time for one or the other unit gets here. all right, up on the bridge. i've all interloop traffic stopped at this time. once you get here, i'll go grab the, workers on the bfidge i'll go grab the, workers on the bridge and then stop the outer loop . 313 dispatch. the whole loop. 313 dispatch. the whole bfidge loop. 313 dispatch. the whole bridge just fell down. start, start. whoever. everybody. the whole bridge. just collapsed. dispatch is correct. that's correct . this time dispatch is correct. that's correct. this time , you dispatch is correct. that's correct . this time , you know, correct. this time, you know, floor traffic. wisoff i can't get to the other side of the bridge. is down. we're going to have to get somebody on the other side of the county. m.s.p to get up here and stop traffic coming northbound on the bridge . coming northbound on the bridge. c13 i'm holding all traffic northbound . northbound. >> it's just astonishing, isn't it ? it? >> those, moments leading up to the collapse of the bridge. and

then once it had the emergency services, they're scrambling around to try and stop the traffic and then realising that the bridge had had just collapsed . right. collapsed. right. >> but it does show that they were doing everything they could as soon as they knew that that boat had lost its capability to steer that ship, not that boat. as soon as they realised that ship had lost its ability to steer, they tried to stop traffic. and i think this is probably that probably saved lives that quick thinking of those of those, officials because there were six there are six people now presumed dead, but none of them were passengers or those in traffic on the bfidge. or those in traffic on the bridge . it was those people bridge. it was those people working on the bridge. so it could be that the quick thinking of those people, of those voices that we just heard, they could have saved many lives. yes. it's interesting. >> they've released this, audio , >> they've released this, audio, perhaps to demonstrate how the

emergency services , kicked into emergency services, kicked into action at a time of crisis . now, action at a time of crisis. now, earlier this morning, one of the missing six workers was identified dead as miguel unrwa from el salvador by the non—profit organisation casa. there he is miguel, owner from el salvador . el salvador. >> but of course, there are six missing workers. well five now missing. one identified , five missing. one identified, five more presumed dead as well. but as we say, just those workers on the, on the bridge, there were a lot of fears that there could have been cars going over there to this could perhaps have been a much bigger, loss of life and perhaps quick thinking might have saved lives there. >> well , have saved lives there. >> well, coming up, stick with us. there's some news from the abdul ezedi . case. abdul ezedi. case. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb

news. >> welcome to your latest weather update from the met office for gb news. the weather remains very lively. heavy downpours across much of the uk today. it's still pretty gusty and blustery as well. and here's the reason why low pressure continues to dominate these weather fronts. spiralling bands of across the uk. it's been of rain across the uk. it's been particularly wet in northern ireland, the warning in ireland, where the warning in place until 3:00 this place here until 3:00 this afternoon, a line of rain working its into eastern working its way into eastern england. ahead of that we have seen some some sunny seen some sunshine, some sunny spells also spells following, but also a whole of blustery showers whole host of blustery showers blown in by a gusty wind and the wet weather across scotland falling at low levels, falling as rain at low levels, but some snow over the higher routes possible here. cold feeling day northern feeling day in northern scotland, elsewhere. well scotland, 6 or 7 elsewhere. well just about digits but just about double digits but still chilly for the end still feeling chilly for the end of march. more heavy showers will northwards overnight will spread northwards overnight and this zone of wet weather will be again mostly rain at low levels but could provide some snow, across parts snow, particularly across parts of the west midlands, up towards nonh

of the west midlands, up towards north wales, down towards gloucestershire for tomorrow morning. it's going to turn windy through tomorrow as windy again through tomorrow as well, particularly from the southwest, rain comes southwest, as further rain comes in here. it will be a chilly night in scotland. a touch of frost but northern frost here, but northern scotland should see some sunny spells thursday . another spells during thursday. another band of rain then swings up from the south and very blustery conditions south conditions along the south coast. met office coast. there's a met office yellow warning place for yellow warning in place for those winds and again from those gusty winds and again from mid—morning onwards, it's another day of heavy showers and again feeling on the chilly side. 10 to 12 at best. >> that warm feeling inside and from boxt boilers, sponsors of weather on

gb news. >> good afternoon. britain it's 2:00 on wednesday, the 27th of march. >> the shocking figures that reveal spills of raw sewage into

england's rivers and seas are the worst on record. last year, there were more than 3,000,000 hours of spillage. who's to blame and what can be done now? >> we'll get more on that bridge collapse in baltimore. six missing workers are now presumed dead, and new dramatic audio of the emergency crews responding has in the last hour been released. >> and brits fighting for putin in ukraine. we asked the question should these people , question should these people, some calling absolute traitors, receive the shamima begum treatment and be stripped of their british citizenship? and get this on the abdul ezedi case. abdul ezedi. the convicted sex offender who then went on to pursue a vicious a chemical attack, he was given a muslim

bufial attack, he was given a muslim burial, despite apparently converting to christianity. what do you make of that, tom? >> this is someone who claimed to be christian. yeah. was granted leave to remain in the united kingdom on the basis of being christian. yeah. leafleted for a christian church in order to then be granted asylum here in the united kingdom. i needed a male chaperone to go to the church on a sunday, presumably so that he didn't do anything untoward . and if anything, he untoward. and if anything, he should be given a christian funeral . perhaps should be given a christian funeral. perhaps a viking burial. >> well, clearly , his, friends >> well, clearly, his, friends and family did not believe that he was a christian and renounced his muslim faith . his muslim faith. >> well, he couldn't even decide if he was shia or sunni. those were the early reports he was claiming to be one and then the other on the basis that would get the best chance of get him the best chance of asylum. i'm interested to asylum. i'm i'm interested to know, he have a sheer know, did he have a sheer funeral a sunni muslim funeral? >> i mean, i think it's pretty

clear now, as clear as it can be that he pretended be that he pretended to be a christian and that there was no real conversion and that it was all a bit of a sham to be able to stay in this country and then to stay in this country and then to go and attack a woman with a corrosive substance, a man who was already a convicted sex offender. >> frankly, why is he getting a funeral at all? >> yeah. and the judge just, you know, ruled in his favour despite being told by the home office he's a proven liar office that he's a proven liar and being given evidence. anyway, gb views at gb news. com. what do you make of that? but let's get your headlines. >> emily. thank you. the top stories audio has emerged detailing the moment that emergency workers tried to evacuate the bridge in baltimore shortly before it collapsed. >> there's a ship approaching and just lost their steering. so until he got under control, we

got. stop all traffic. 1013 dispatch. the whole bridge just fell out. start, start. whoever. everybody the whole bridge just collapsed . collapsed. >> it comes after the search for survivors was suspended with six construction workers presumed dead. video footage captured the moment a cargo ship crashed into the francis scott key bridge yesterday morning . the city's yesterday morning. the city's port, which is one of the busiest in the east of the united states, is now closed indefinitely . less than 1 united states, is now closed indefinitely. less than 1 in 4 people in britain are satisfied with the nhs, its lowest level since records began 40 years ago, with a lack of access to gps among the top concerns. a poll found that long waiting times are also a major worry, with just 24% saying they're satisfied with the health service. that's down from 70% in 2010, the report found that tightening funding and chronic workforce shortages over the past decade has left the nhs in a continual state of crisis. education secretary gillian

keegan says the government is committed to making things better . better. >> the n hs better. >> the nhs has had, you know, to deal with the pandemic and we all know that that has created huge backlogs and huge waiting lists and we're all committed to catch up to provide a faster, simpler, fairer nhs. we're investing £165 billion a year. obviously, if you're investing that much, you want to have people satisfied with the service they're getting. but we do know that we've been tackling, i mean, think for the last four months the waiting lists have started to come down. but we're tackling a huge backlog. what's interesting is actually the actually england, the conservative england conservative run england the performance and the catch up is much better than in labour run wales or in snp run scotland . wales or in snp run scotland. >> public satisfaction with social care has also plummeted to just 13. we asked people in manchester for their thoughts on britain's health service once you get there, yes, but it's actually getting through the gp to getting to the nhs .

to getting to the nhs. >> i think that a lot of money is wasted to talking people that work or have worked within the nhs . the amount of waste is nhs. the amount of waste is phenomenal. so i think they need to look at the management, it needs to start at the top. >> thankfully i don't use it a lot, but i'm currently on the waiting list for one of the hospitals in for manchester 12 andifs hospitals in for manchester 12 and it's a 52 week wait. >> we should make it like a more accessible thing. >> i am satisfied because there's a hard working there's a lot of hard working nurses, doctors, surgeons like you see the care they give you. and plus i had three of my children here and the care i received was perfect . received was perfect. >> that was the 54% increase in sewage in england's waterways last year compared to 2022, pushing figures to their highest level. the environment agency says it's due to storm overflows with untreated sewage dumped into rivers and seas. it comes amid rising concern for the state of england's waterways, with a part of the river thames. that's to be used for the boat

race this weekend, found to be contaminated with e.coli. shadow environment secretary steve reed says water company bosses who oversee pollution of oversee the pollution of waterways should be banned from getting bonuses . getting bonuses. >> it's absolutely disgusting that last year we had the highest level of sewage being pumped into our rivers , our pumped into our rivers, our lakes and our seas on record over 4,000,000 hours. this filth was being pumped out into our waterways . and yet the waterways. and yet the government has stood back and done nothing while it's getting worse and worse . worse and worse. >> a review has found that a ten month old baby who was murdered by his parents just weeks after being handed back to them , being handed back to them, should have been in protective care. finley bowden's parents, shannon marsden and stephen bowden, inflicted over 100 injuries on their son before he died at his family home in chesterfield, derbyshire, on christmas day in 2020. they were given life sentences in may that yeah given life sentences in may that year. a safeguarding review found practices in the local authority were inadequate. it said that while finley's parents were responsible for his death,

professional interventions should have protected him . and a should have protected him. and a mural by banksy in north london has been fenced off by a local council. the artwork in finsbury park features splashes of green paint on a residential building behind a cut back tree , giving behind a cut back tree, giving the appearance of lush green leaves. credit was claimed by the street artist on social media, but just days later it was vandalised with white paint. islington council says it's discussing future solutions with the home owner that will enable everyone to enjoy the artwork, while also protecting it . why while also protecting it. why can't i say that word? for the latest stories , sign up to gb latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. com slash alerts. now back to tom and . to tom and. emily. >> it's 208 now. sewage spills have hit a record high with waste leaking into rivers and

seas more than doubling in the last year. figures released by the environment agency show there were 3.6 million hours of spills, compared to 1.7 5,000,000 hours in 2022. so a rather large increase . rather large increase. >> certainly the environment agency says it's due to storm overflows with untreated sewage dumped in rivers and seas , mixed dumped in rivers and seas, mixed in with rainwater from all of those storms. but these spills are now at their highest since 2016. >> well gb news, east midlands reporter will hollis joins us now from gedling in nottingham. will, what do we know about the situation there in nottingham ? situation there in nottingham? are we seeing sewage spills in the river? you're standing in front of ? front of? >> yes. well campaigners say that this is the final damning indictment of a failing industry where we are in gedling. this is a very small part of the water system. it's called the ooze dyke and if you follow it down, it will eventually lead to the

river trent, which is the third largest river in the entire country. and last year this data reveals that 315 hours worth of sewage was spilled into this very small section. now that's around 13 days of continual untreated sewage being pumped into this waterway. but we know that that is just a very small fraction of the picture nationally. the data revealed today says that this is on record levels 3.6 million hours worth of sewage released in 2023. across the water, companies . that's more than companies. that's more than double what it was in 2022. now, the environment agency says that while this is disappointing, it's not entirely surprising. the government says that this is unacceptable, something that the water companies say that they echo. but the reason that they're giving for why this, why this is happening is because of essentially extreme weather, the

sixth wettest year on record last year. they say as well that the places where they record this, the overflows, have been recorded at 100% last year for the very first time. so that means that the data is much more comprehensive in compared to previous years. now the water company says that they do have a plan to triple investment by the year 2030, and ofwat simply needs to sign off on that. and when they do that, it will reduce spillages down by 40. but labour says that by preventing bonuses for the ceos of these massive companies, that will make things happen a lot quicker i >> -- >> thank 5mm >> thank you will. let's hope that the river behind you isn't as, as putrid as some of our waterways are at the moment, seemingly . waterways are at the moment, seemingly. let's waterways are at the moment, seemingly . let's get more waterways are at the moment, seemingly. let's get more on this now with robert colville, the director of the centre for policy studies and editor in chief of cap x. now, robert, people will be saying the reason

why these, storm overflows happen and our waters are being polluted because these nasty companies simply haven't invested enough. are they right ? invested enough. are they right? >> no. in a it's really being someone who's in any way defending the water companies is the least popular position in british politics. but the truth is, this all dates back to the way that the victorians built our water network, designed our network and path that they followed since then, and what they essentially decided to do was to put the rain and the poo in the same pipe, which turns out not to have been the best idea , but we're kind of stuck idea, but we're kind of stuck with that? the government set up a task force on, on on overflows a task force on, on on overflows a few years ago and it found that to completely fix this problem, because between 350 and £600 billion. >> but robert, i've read that, only about 12% of the network dates back to the victorian era . dates back to the victorian era. are you saying that we haven't changed up the design since

then? >> we have changed up the design, but only more recently. you know, the victorian set, the sort of path dependency for the rest of the network to follow. nowadays, when you build a house and when you build a development, you would, try and separate , separate out. separate, separate those out. but thing that people but the other thing that people don't understand here is about is about monitoring. so we are saying these are record levels. but the truth is we have absolutely no idea whether these are record levels, because this is yearin are record levels, because this is year in which we've is the first year in which we've had monitoring every single had monitoring at every single outflow. recently as 2010, it outflow. as recently as 2010, it was that we were monitoring just outflow. as recently as 2010, it wasofiat we were monitoring just outflow. as recently as 2010, it wasof outflows. re monitoring just outflow. as recently as 2010, it wasof outflows. so nonitoring just outflow. as recently as 2010, it wasof outflows. so i)nitoring just outflow. as recently as 2010, it wasof outflows. so i mean, g just outflow. as recently as 2010, it wasof outflows. so i mean, andst 7% of outflows. so i mean, and by the way, in scotland, and quite a lot of other european countries, they still don't have anything like the monitoring system we've got in. so, so, so what think it's far, what we're i think it's far, far, far more likely we are discovering a problem that has been happening for decades. rather than that there has been a sudden of this problem. a sudden growth of this problem. just we happen to have just when we happen to have installed all of devices to installed all of the devices to monitor it. >> but hang these water >> but hang on, these water companies, according to labour

analysis, received analysis, have received 20. the bosses these companies bosses of these companies have received £25 million the way received £25 million in the way of and other cash of bonuses and other cash incentives. at the same incentives. and at the same time, they're ofwat to time, they're asking ofwat to approve increase in our approve 40% increase in our bills. does seem like the bills. it does seem like the bills. it does seem like the bill payers are the losers, not the water companies. >> well, the bill payers are going to be the losers here, but that's because going to that's because we are going to have spend more on our have to spend more on our infrastructure. fact, the way infrastructure. in fact, the way that water network works is, that our water network works is, is since privatisation, is since since privatisation, investment has actually increased substantially , increased quite substantially, the latest that again, because a lot of people say that privatised action is the reason that we're not investing enough. are you saying since privatisation, has privatisation, investment has actually up very, actually gone up, gone up very, very significantly? >> there's absolutely no argument about that. and in fact, the latest figures published the european, water published by the european, water network , from 2021, showed that network, from 2021, showed that we investing more in our we are investing more in our water network than absolutely anyone issue is that anyone else. the issue is that thatis anyone else. the issue is that that is still not enough. people are really concerned about the quality of their water they want. they want it to get there. newly aware of these problems

and they want it to. the climate is changing. population is changing. the population is growing the growing and get better. but the way that the system works is that water companies are effectively sort agents effectively sort of agents acting on behalf of the state. they state tells how they the state tells them how much leakage can have, they much leakage they can have, they sells what prices they can sells them what prices they can charge, they say to the charge, and if they say to the state, we really want there state, we really want to, there are really examples of them are really good examples of them saying, want to invest more, saying, we want to invest more, we to build reservoirs, we we want to build reservoirs, we want to, you know, do this want to, you know, to do this because will make more money because we will make more money from investing because we from investing more, because we are make set are allowed to make a set figure, on much we figure, depending on how much we invest. regulator and invest. and the regulator and the have told them no the government have told them no ehheh the government have told them no either, people don't either, because people don't want near them want reservoirs built near them or because are worried that or because they are worried that bills get high. bills will get too high. but we're stage where we're now at the stage where that's run out of road. whoever runs whether runs the water network, whether it's private, whether it's national, does it, is national, whoever does it, is going need to spend a lot going to need to spend a lot more because we have more more money because we have more people a more people and we have a more hostile are not hostile climate. and we are not we have too water in some we have too much water in some places and not enough others, places and not enough in others, and really need to fix that. and we really need to fix that. but that is going to cost money and no magic solution to

that. >> that is really, really fascinating. the investment went up post—privatisation, but perhaps enough . and maybe perhaps not by enough. and maybe we've always had this problem, but we're just monitoring what is it, 7% monitoring in 2010 now to 100% monitoring. that's a huge monitoring increase really really interesting stuff there. just finally, robert colville is the only answer then that we're going to have to pay more. and who will have to pay . who will have to pay. >> yeah. so every every few years the water companies come to the government and or the regulator and say, this is how much we want to spend on the water network, and this is how much that will involve bills going up. and at the moment the they are saying, to they are saying, we want to spend amounts the water spend huge amounts on the water network, that will involve network, and that will involve bills by £156, that's bills going up by £156, that's obviously not going to be that popular the public, but, popular with the public, but, you know, if you want to fix the fix, fix these problems , it will fix, fix these problems, it will require billions billions of require billions and billions of pounds , to, to fix. and, you pounds, to, to fix. and, you know, just saying that the water, the water companies took

dividends and loaded up on debt. yes they did. that wasn't very good of them. but you can't fix the current situation just by sort of shouting at the water company bosses. are actually company bosses. we are actually going spend money. going to need to spend money. >> there you go. some food >> well, there you go. some food for thought. thank you very much indeed. colville, indeed. robert colville, director of the centre for policy to speak to policy studies. good to speak to you. statement from you. a short statement from water results are water uk. these results are unacceptable demonstrate unacceptable and demonstrate exactly need exactly why we urgently need regulatory to upgrade regulatory approval to upgrade our it better our systems so it can better cope with the weather. you go. >> well, reports revealed >> well, reports have revealed that offender , convicted sex that sex offender, convicted sex offender chemical attacker offender and chemical attacker abdul was given a muslim abdul ezedi was given a muslim burial despite being given asylum after converting to christianity . christianity. >> yes, a new court documents reveal the chemical attacker was granted asylum, even though the judge knew there were concerns about him being a proven liar. >> so do these new revelations undermine the entire asylum process , and how does it damage process, and how does it damage the reputation of christian churches ? churches? >> well, joining us now is priest in charge at holy trinity

in winchester and host of the irreverent podcast , father jamie irreverent podcast, father jamie franklin. thank you very much for joining us, jamie. now, forjoining us, jamie. now, there's been a big blame game when it comes to this case. people blaming the government, the home office, the church of england for allowing the conversion and for backing the asylum case here. and also, who else have we blamed? the police, perhaps, so, jamie, what do you make of this? and has this damage, the reputation of the church of england ? we know the church of england? we know the archbishop of canterbury is looking into an investigation. >> yes, absolutely. well, i think yeah, it doesn't look good, obviously, one thing i would say at the beginning, though, is that i find it hard to understand why people are blaming the church of england for because is, this for this, because this is, this happened context of happened in the context of a baptist church. the minister involved was a man called reverend merrin. reverend roy merrin. >> has been reported >> this has been widely reported in elsewhere. in the telegraph and elsewhere. it actually baptist church it was actually a baptist church minister. baptist minister. it was a baptist church context which ezedi church context in which ezedi was to . known that he

was allowed to. known that he was allowed to. known that he was allowed to. known that he was a convicted sex offender after he'd been convicted of sexual assault and exposure to. these are just these are just facts about what was going on at the time. so it was actually reverend roy merrin. >> and that context there. >> and that context there. >> and that context there. >> and then it was the reverend roy merrin actually roy merrin who actually supported his application for asylum this country. so it asylum in this country. so it was was in the context of the was it was in the context of the baptist church, not the church of church of england, the church of england, you know, perhaps has a has role to play in its in so has a role to play in its in so far as it's, you know, promoting, you know, the sort of, liberal progressive agenda around immigration in quite a pubuc around immigration in quite a public and visible way. but in this, this context , this, in this context, definitely not the church of england's fault, there has also been massive amount of miscommunication between the home tribunal home office and the tribunal that vindicated ezedi the home office in new about , that vindicated ezedi the home office in new about, or sorry, the tribunal that allowed his asylum application to go through the home office knew that this this guy was a sex offender and that he was dangerous as well. so it's a failure a state and

so it's a failure on a state and legislative as well as legislative level as well as anything , so i think the anything else, so i think the blame can be widely shared around. in this instance, around. but in this instance, i would it's not actually the would say it's not actually the fault church of england . fault of the church of england. >> and also the judge too, who ruled his favour, despite ruled in his favour, despite what i would overwhelming what i would call overwhelming evidence that this, man was lying . lying. >> yeah, absolutely. and this to me, this this, speaks to the broader context of this entire conversation, it's a source of frustration. i think , to many, frustration. i think, to many, many people, including lots of just ordinary parishioners in church of england churches and christians elsewhere , that the christians elsewhere, that the kind of people who represent the hierarchical echelons of the church don't seem to get the concerns that ordinary people have around immigration. these people not racist . they people are not racist. they don't hate people from other nations. they just want a sensible conversation around this issue in the same way as you wouldn't allow anyone to just walk into your house and behave. however they behave. however, however they wanted in front of your family members. shouldn't allow members. so we shouldn't allow just anyone to come into the

country, and everyone country, anyone and everyone to come the country come into the country and to behave want just behave however they want just because claim that because they make the claim that they fleeing persecution or they are fleeing persecution or that in or whatever that they're in need or whatever it might be, that we need to have a sensible, grown up conversation about where conversation about this, where both sides of this story are considered . and the government, considered. and the government, i would hasten to add, have a have a duty to protect the population of their own nation, as well as a, let's say, a burden of care for people who might want to come here to seek asylum or to seek refuge. and in this case, we badly failed. these people, this mother and her daughters who have been, who have their lives upended have had their lives upended through this horrific through this, this horrific attack, chemical attack upon attack, a chemical attack upon them, through this man who should not been roaming should not have been roaming around our country. so this around in our country. so this is absolutely disgraceful, i is absolutely disgraceful, and i hope hope it moves the hope it i hope it moves the conversation in a positive direction. a result, perhaps direction. as a result, perhaps more focus needs to be on more of the focus needs to be on the judge and that judgement rather than the inputs that went into that judgement, just on the fact that this that abdul ezedi

seems to have had a muslim bufiali seems to have had a muslim burial, i should he have . burial, i should he have. >> well, i, i don't know, i don't know from a sort of moral perspective or a legal perspective, but i think what it, what it shows is that the reverend roy and whoever else was involved from a christian perspective were either utterly duped by this man and were taken for fools , or were actually for fools, or were actually dupuchousin for fools, or were actually duplicitous in what happened and knew this bloke wasn't a christian and that he was, in fact a muslim , but supported his fact a muslim, but supported his application anyway, which would be incredibly dishonest . and i be incredibly dishonest. and i don't know which is the case, but either way, it is pretty shocking, i would say. and also, you know , one does wonder if you know, one does wonder if this kind of thing is happening more broadly. i mean, look, i don't live in an area where this kind of thing happens. i'll be honest. know, i live in the honest. you know, i live in the south winchester. this this south in winchester. this this isn't here, but is isn't happening here, but is this elsewhere in the this happening elsewhere in the country? do we have do we have vicars ministers and down vicars and ministers up and down the using this loophole the country using this loophole as of supporting people's

as a way of supporting people's asylum application when they very well know that these people we know that we know that 40 or at least a couple dozen, a few dozen on the bibby stockholm barge, we're looking to convert, deciding that they're going to be christians. >> so it's certainly not the only only case where there may be, very quick conversions done. >> as i say, there is, as i say, they're either dupes or they're duplicitous. you know, it's one it's one of the two, isn't it? it's not, it's not it's not particularly. it's not it doesn't speak in their favour, let's say as ministers they let's say as ministers that they would they either allow would they would either allow themselves to be fooled or actually or actually be dishonest in this, in this case. >> but yeah, you speak a lot of sense, father jamie franklin, host the reverend podcast. host of the reverend podcast. i like like the pun there. thank like i like the pun there. thank you much for joining like i like the pun there. thank you much forjoining us you very much for joining us here afternoon britain . here on good afternoon britain. >> well, still to come, we've got dramatic audio the got dramatic audio of the emergency crews responding to the in baltimore the bridge collapse in baltimore . baltimore that's been released in the last hour. more on that after the

break. >> good afternoon. britain it's 2:26, and we're going to bring you the latest from the united states. after a container ship hit a bridge in baltimore yesterday, this dramatic scene of the bridge fully collapsing. well, earlier this morning, one of the missing six workers was identified dead as miguel aiona from el salvador by the non—profit organisation casa . non—profit organisation casa. >> well. now audio of the emergency crews responding to reports of the collision has been released. let's take listen. >> i need one of you guys in the south side. one of you guys on the north side hold all traffic on the key bridge. there's a ship approaching. just lost their steering. so until you get that under control, we got. stop

all traffic. yeah, we're all on the route to the south side. just starting. i'm pulling traffic now. i was driving when we stopped prior to the bridge , we stopped prior to the bridge, so i'll have all traffic stopped for. is there a crew working on the bridge right now? so okay. online video . good. now, traffic online video. good. now, traffic on that site right now . yeah. if on that site right now. yeah. if we can stop traffic, just make sure no one is on the bridge right now. i'm not sure where, there's a crew up there. you might want to notify whoever the foreman is, see if we can get them off the bridge temporarily. time for one or the other unit gets here. right, up on the gets here. all right, up on the bridge. i have all traffic stopped at this time. once you get here, i'll go grab the, workers on the bridge and then stop the outer loop and dispatch the whole bridge. just fell down. start, start. whoever. everybody. the whole bridge just

collapsed. dispatches. right. that's correct. this time . give that's correct. this time. give me no more traffic. stop i can't get to the other side. so the bfidgeis get to the other side. so the bridge is down, and we're going to have to get somebody on the other side . natalie raanan other side. natalie raanan county msp to get up here and stop traffic coming northbound on the bridge . c13 i'm holding on the bridge. c13 i'm holding all traffic northbound . all traffic northbound. >> just astonishing audio , isn't >> just astonishing audio, isn't it? yeah, absolutely. >> joining us now is associate publisher for the baltimore times, paris brown paris very much appreciate you coming on the show. i'm sure you're very busy in light of everything that's happened over the last. what day? and a bit, paris. what's the mood in baltimore? we just heard that astonishing audio . audio. >> well, believe it or not, the city's come together, the inter agencies have come together . our agencies have come together. our mayor, our governor, our president has been very, very

supportive. and it's really we're going to get through this. they it is, you know , they're they it is, you know, they're saying maryland strong, baltimore strong. we are in prayer, across the state and really across the nation for those who have lost their lives because their families and, that thatis because their families and, that that is the sentiment here. >> listening to that audio, it was a remarkable to see those who were managing the traffic respond quite so quickly. they knew that the ship had lost control. they seemingly closed traffic to the bridge in time for there not to be any cars caught up in this collapse. >> and that's what we're so grateful for. so many lives that were saved at the time. it was 130, so there was no traffic there wasn't any what we would say rush hour traffic and yes, being able to stop the loops and stop the traffic saved a lot of lives during rush hour. there are close to like 35,000 cars that passed that bridge daily.

so the quick response, was incredible, we salute those. and not only those , those that not only those, those that helped to stop that traffic, but the first responders, they were there in minutes to help rescue there in minutes to help rescue the two that were saved . the two that were saved. >> i mean, paris, you talk about a huge amount of support for the emergency services and of course, those who have been caught up in this tragic event. is there also some anger about how this could have happened , how this could have happened, well, at this point, no , that's well, at this point, no, that's not being expressed. right. we there there are more pressing issues. we do have the recovery . issues. we do have the recovery. and then most importantly, getting the port open because millions of dollars are being lost. right. with with with it not being open. and so there's a sentiment that let's rally around, let's support baltimore and, and let's, let's, let's get our harbour up and running again, as you already know, the

supply chain is impacted, baltimore is the 11th busiest port in the united states in this the, busiest port for, vehicles coming into the country . so this could have this has economic impact also, that we have to address immediately. >> yes. and the focus will now turn on to getting the debris cleared, getting the port open. it's a hugely significant deep water harbour that can take ships like this. very few harbours on the east coast can take large container ships . do take large container ships. do we have any indication about the cleanup operation and how quickly this harbour can get back open? >> we don't . and you're >> we don't. and you're absolutely right. i think it's about 135ft deep. it's it is very deep , so the right now very deep, so the right now there is no one actually, none of the ships can go in and out. and so we have not had any

updates yet, but that i do know that that is a priority . that that is a priority. >> well, thank you very much indeed for talking to us. paris brown, associate publisher for the baltimore times. really great to your insight, yes. great to get your insight, yes. that economic impact . yes. that economic impact. yes. >> yeah. it's not it's not just the lives. it's the livelihoods. yeah. and frankly, everyone's amazon parcels that are on board that ship. >> well of course, coming up >> well of course, but coming up a british men have been a pair of british men have been branded and an branded as traitors and an absolute disgrace for proudly fighting for the russian army in ukraine. we'll have more on that after your headlines . after your headlines. >> emily. thank you. the top stories audio has emerged detailing the moment that emergency workers tried to evacuate the bridge in baltimore shortly before it collapsed. >> there's a ship approaching and just lost their steering. so until they get that under control , we got to stop all control, we got to stop all traffic. 1013 dispatch. the whole bridge just fell down.

start started. whoever everybody . the whole bridge just collapsed . collapsed. >> it comes after the search for survivors was suspended with six construction workers presumed dead. video footage captured the moment a cargo ship crashed into the francis scott key bridge yesterday morning. the city's port, which is one of the busiest in the east of the united states, is now closed indefinitely . a poll has found indefinitely. a poll has found that less than 1 in 4 people in britain are satisfied with the nhs , its lowest level since nhs, its lowest level since records began 40 years ago, with lack of access to gps among the top concerns. long waiting times are also a major worry, with just 24% saying they're satisfied with the health service. that's down from 70% in 2010, the report found that tightening funding and chronic workforce shortages over the past decade has left the nhs in a continual state of crisis . a continual state of crisis. there was a 54% increase in sewage in england's waterways last year, compared to 2022,

pushing figures to their highest level . the environment agency level. the environment agency says it's due to storm overflows with untreated sewage dumped into rivers and seas . labour into rivers and seas. labour says it will put water companies under special measures if it wins the next election, with bosses who oversee the pollution of waterways banned from getting bonuses. of waterways banned from getting bonuses . and lawmakers in bonuses. and lawmakers in thailand have voted overwhelmingly in support of same sex marriage . it's an same sex marriage. it's an historic step for one of asia's most liberal countries , and will most liberal countries, and will make it the only nation in southeast asia to recognise same sex unions. it comes after years of campaigning and a bill that's almost ten years in the making. it's expected to be passed into law by the end of the year. for the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. com slash alerts

i >> -- >> good afternoon. britain. it's 2:38, and a pair of british men have been branded as traitors and an absolute disgrace for proudly fighting for putin's russian army in ukraine. >> yes, the men ben stimpson and aidan minnis have posted pictures of themselves online in all the russian military gear, brandishing grenades and guns. their decision to fight for russia and president putin's war of conquest has led to calls for them to be jailed. if they ever step foot in britain again. so what should be done with these two, and what legally can be done with these little rodent people? >> well, let's get the thoughts now from the former head of counter—terrorism at the mod, major general chip chapman, chip, what does the law say here? we're not technically at

war with russia, but we're not exactly their allies . exactly their allies. >> no, we aren't at war with russia. so, really depends on partly on the circumstances of how they've joined the russian army if we're at war with them. technically, that wouldn't be an offence in a way that, for example, people joining the ukrainian legion not being mercenaries and as long as they're integrated into the army, would be a legitimate part of that, that army grouping. >> but if they were to come back to the uk, there's a body of law which you could use in lots of ways. >> so the first thing is we put these, counter—terrorism security act together in 2015 to stop people travelling. now, i'm not sure if that was technically, used in terms of travel to russia via third parties, which we think stimpson did. but when they come back, you could do them under counter—terror legislation. the second thing is that the foreign enlistment act of 1870 has been there. we're going to use that in the spanish civil war , to

in the spanish civil war, to take on those who fought for the republican side. and in the 70s are those who fought in the civil war for the fnla in angola . it's never been used, but there is a large body of law which you can use to deal with these people . should they come these people. should they come back. it's worth saying, i think, that the biggest value of them is not as fighting entities for the russians, it's for information operations. it's this sort of thing about, hey, there were brits who are fighting for us against those terrible fascists and nazis in ukraine, slightly, ukraine, which is slightly, weird in its own way, because one of these was a former national front member. >> yes. all about the propaganda. it's curious, though, because one of these men , ben stimpson, reading, he was previously convicted for terrorism for helping pro—russian separatists. i would have thought that would have given some kind of red flag when he, when he left britain, you know, at the airport . are you

know, at the airport. are you just allowed to travel freely, even if you've got a terror conviction ? ian. conviction? ian. >> yeah, that's a curious one here, because he seemed to have beenin here, because he seemed to have been in the donbas in 2015 and to have done over five years in prison under under terrorism legislation. now he could have been technically stopped for travelling or to have been on a no fly list. why he wasn't and why he was allowed to travel mightily. as i said, it was via a third party country because i think he went via istanbul, not directly to, to russia . that is directly to, to russia. that is something which i think the authorities will have to explain , there will be people who just look at this and think, why ? why look at this and think, why? why should we ever allow these people back in the country? i suppose, given the rate of attrition of russian troops, there's a chance that they might, sort of answer that question in and of themselves, depending on how long they stay in the trenches, but but what recourse do we have ?

recourse do we have? >> well, you can temporarily ban them again under that , 2015 them again under that, 2015 legislation and you can manage their return and therefore manage what is done to them in legal terms . legal terms. >> again, your second point, tom, about, you know , being in tom, about, you know, being in the trenches, that really depends on their contract. if they are on a long contract with they are on a long contract with the russians, then they are likely to be cannon fodder. and the best thing that will happen to them is that they'll be, pushing up the daisies in the next few months, but as i said at the beginning of this, they're bigger value is really is, information operations and propaganda for the russians. if i was the russians, i wouldn't use them for that. i would use them for other means. and therefore, we've got to be quite careful of giving these these miscreants because they are sort of addled alcoholics at the of drug addled alcoholics at the past, sort of too much past, the sort of too much oxygen publicity. yeah oxygen of publicity. yeah >> ever talk about >> we shouldn't ever talk about them they're them as if they're representative some big representative of some big movement the kingdom. movement in the united kingdom. these little oddballs. >> but if they're thinking, perhaps they'll get to stage perhaps they'll get to the stage

where they've had enough and they working for they don't fancy working for putin's russia anymore. and backing the army, whether it's actually with combat or or and fighting or if it's this is more about the propaganda war, and they want to come back to britain. i mean, is there any way that they could be treated in the same way as, say, shamima begum, whose citizenship was stripped? i mean, presumably putin would be happy for them to be russian citizens . be russian citizens. >> yeah, that's technically if they were offered russian citizenship , they could do that. citizenship, they could do that. now, we couldn't strip the citizenship from them because they're not dual nationals in they're not dual nationals in the way that shamima begum were used, a thing called jus sanguinis, where we could use the inheritance through the father, he the paternal line of the bangladeshi thing. so that wasn't deemed to be illegal. to make them stateless would be illegal. and you technically can't do that in international law. >> well, chip chapman , thank you >> well, chip chapman, thank you so much for talking us through this, slightly peculiar story of

two, oddballs, one with a terrorism conviction, one, a former member of a far right organisation in the united kingdom dancing to putin's tune out in ukraine. a really, really bizarre stuff. but major—general chip chapman, thanks for your time. >> yes . and they clearly are the >> yes. and they clearly are the most tremendous show offs, too. i mean, boasting about it, parading the guns and talking about grenades and all that. yes about grenades and all that. yes a tough many. >> not so, so tough . >> not so, so tough. >> not so, so tough. >> anyway, coming up, we'll be getting to all of your views on all the stories we've been talking about, including those two men that have gone to off putin's also nhs putin's russia, but also the nhs sewage . we've talked about it. sewage. we've talked about it. we'll see what

well, we've been , receiving lots well, we've been, receiving lots of your views. what should we start with, tom? >> why don't we talk about

sewage, we all love. we all love sewage. but, steve says that the conservatives aloud voted to allow raw sewage to be pumped into our rivers for the next 15 years. steve, that's not how parliament works, steve, you are so, so wrong here. if someone puts forward an unfunded amendment that the government votes down, that doesn't mean that the government has voted to allow raw sewage. that means that someone's taken a cost effective look at something and decided not to bankrupt the country with there was an amendment put forward by, actually one of lord, one of one of one of the duke of wellington's, descendants in the house of lords that i think the treasury calculated it would cost hundreds of billions of pounds. now, voting against such an amendment doesn't mean that you don't want raw sewage in rivers. it means that you need to do some sums before you vote

for anything under the sun. >> but it was very much presented by most media outlets as what steve says there. and william says, you are spot on. when you said that the problem was population management in regard to sewage overflow, too many people equals too much poo, and this will only exacerbate itself until we get a grip with migration. yes, there is an issue that we haven't kept up with demand. clearly, whether it comes reservoirs and our comes to reservoirs and our infrastructure and infrastructure and infrastructure . infrastructure. >> si king phil says it's not just about the number of people by the look of most people these days, says phil. they're eating huge amounts of food, oh, cost to go somewhere. so maybe maybe we're too much food. we're eating too much food. >> you're gonna blame who >> you're gonna blame people who are our sewage are greedy for our sewage woes. >> logic works. >> i mean, the logic works. >> i mean, the logic works. >> so everyone has to go >> okay, so everyone has to go on a diet because we're all excreting. >> the answer here is we obviously need to build more infrastructure, more sewage infrastructure, more water infrastructure. but that takes time costs money, and it time and it costs money, and it can't all be done in one go, no matter what any amendment in the

house of lords. >> so you can go, there you go. i can just imagine the nhs next campaign, eat less to save our rivers. we go. eat less to rivers. there we go. eat less to save our right. shall we save our rivers. right. shall we move because the former move on? because the former maths kevin lister maths teacher kevin lister is claiming unfair dismissal after he because he refused he was fired because he refused to use a trans student's preferred pronouns whilst he was teaching at new college, swindon. >> yes, kevin lister taught maths for 18 years before he was dismissed gross misconduct dismissed for gross misconduct while facing the employment tribunal. that's ongoing, he said. it's not the role of a maths teacher to confirm the gender transition of a student. >> well, let's get the views of robin moira white, a barrister and a trans woman herself . and a trans woman herself. robin, thank you very much indeed for joining robin, thank you very much indeed forjoining us, do you indeed for joining us, do you accept that what the teacher there says? it's not his role as a maths teacher to confirm the gender transition of a student ? gender transition of a student? essentially, he's nothing essentially, he's done nothing wrong . wrong. >> no, i think i, i do believe he's got the wrong focus because looking after children, there's

a un principle. >> the best interests of the child . child. >> and that needs to be the guiding principle , not the guiding principle, not the particular beliefs of the teacher . teacher. >> and so what are the particulars here? what is the teacher being accused of specifically? how did he treat this, this this student? >> well, the student had elected to , present in a in a different to, present in a in a different gender from their birth gender. >> they had gone through a process with the school to declare that. >> and, whilst i'm not entirely familiar with the particular facts of the case, i understand that there was some form of maths competition in the schools , and that's why the maths teacher was involved, and instead of, showing that the pupil by the name that they'd asked to be known as the teacher put up the name that they'd previously used . previously used. >> is it not a protective belief, though? and for teachers, i mean, this is what the government is wrangling with

at the moment, trying to get guidance for teachers right ? and guidance for teachers right? and balanced and fair, but if a teacher fundamentally believes that you can't change your gendeh that you can't change your gender, your sex, then must they go along with it just for the sake of the child ? sake of the child? >> yeah, but we're there to look after the children . after the children. >> i mean, the best interests of the child is the guiding factor. >> but what if they believe? >> but what if they believe? >> but what if they believe, robin, that social transition is against the best interests of the child? are they are just not allowed to have an opinion on that. >> but of course they can have an opinion, but we don't. school policy determined policy isn't determined by the opinions a particular teacher. >> they might believe the opposite. >> and , so what we have to have >> and, so what we have to have is a policy that accommodates the child properly in many service provision. circumstances. so there's a case called mackereth that related to deaung called mackereth that related to dealing with people who are claiming benefits and the

benefits assessor didn't believe that people should be treated according to the gender in which they identify . well, that was they identify. well, that was found to be, unlawful because they were not respecting effectively the clients of dwp . effectively the clients of dwp. >> the robin moira white, thank you very much for your views on this topic. as we say, the tribunal is ongoing and we'll be following the outcome of this one particularly closely. thank you very much for your time. yes we will indeed, because it sets a bit of a precedent, doesn't it? >> or it could set a bit of a precedent which way it comes down in favour of the teacher and his right to not use a child's personal pronouns or or the other way , the school's the other way, the school's right to sack him for not. >> yes . rights versus rights. >> yes. rights versus rights. well, that's it for us today. up next is martin daubney. martin, what's show ? what's on your show? >> yeah. great show as ever, guys. >> yeah. great show as ever, guys . abdul ezedi. it's time for guys. abdul ezedi. it's time for a full investigation of a systemic failure. a muslim

funeral given for the so—called christian convert who smuggled his way into britain. a multiple sex offender too dangerous to even be left alone in church. how did this happen ? heads must how did this happen? heads must roll. the batley grammar school have issued a letter saying they are very disappointed not with the fact they abandoned one of their teachers for three years. who's still in hiding. but with the findings of dame sara the findings of the dame sara khan we've got an khan report, we've got an exclusive that letter exclusive from that letter leaked gb news. the nhs were leaked to gb news. the nhs were in a toxic relationship. well, let's divorce it. and finally, labour's rejoin fail. their eu fail. they want to cosy up to brussels. brussels isn't even interested. all that's on my show three till six. but first, here's your latest weather forecast. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> welcome to your latest

weather update from the met office for gb news. the weather remains very lively. heavy downpours across much of the uk today. it's still pretty gusty and blustery as well. and here's the reason why low pressure continues to dominate these weather fronts . spiralling bands weather fronts. spiralling bands of rain across the uk. it's been particularly wet in northern ireland, where the warning in place here until three this afternoon, a line of rain working way into eastern working its way into eastern england. ahead of that we have seen some sunshine, some sunny spells following, but also a whole blustery showers whole host of blustery showers blown by a gusty wind and the blown in by a gusty wind and the wet weather across scotland falling at low levels, falling as rain at low levels, but some snow over the higher routes here. cold routes possible here. cold feeling in northern scotland feeling day in northern scotland 6 elsewhere well just about 6 or 7 elsewhere well just about double digits, still feeling double digits, but still feeling chilly for the end of march. more heavy showers will spread northwards overnight, and this more heavy showers will spread northof rds overnight, and this more heavy showers will spread northof wet )vernight, and this more heavy showers will spread northof wet weather , and this more heavy showers will spread northof wet weather willj this more heavy showers will spread northof wet weather will be|is zone of wet weather will be again mostly rain at low levels, but could provide some snow, particularly across parts of the west midlands towards north west midlands up towards north wales, towards wales, down towards gloucestershire tomorrow gloucestershire for tomorrow morning. it's going to turn windy again through tomorrow as

well, particularly from the southwest. as further comes southwest. as further rain comes in it'll be a chilly night in here it'll be a chilly night in here it'll be a chilly night in scotland. a touch of frost here, but northern scotland should some sunny spells should see some sunny spells dufing should see some sunny spells during another band of during thursday. another band of rain swings up from the rain then swings up from the south very blustery south and very blustery conditions the south conditions along the south coast. there's a office coast. there's a met office yellow warning place for yellow warning in place for those winds and again from those gusty winds and again from mid—morning onwards , it's mid—morning onwards, it's another day of heavy showers and again feeling on the chilly side. 10 to at best. side. 10 to 12 at best. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers , sponsors of boxt boilers, sponsors of weather on

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the chemical attacker abdul ezedi reportedly been given ezedi has reportedly been given a full muslim funeral , and a full muslim funeral, and that's despite him claiming to have converted to christianity in order to remain in the uk. pressing questions are now being asked about our broken asylum system. is it fit for purpose? is it time for a full inquiry and do you have faith in the nhs? well, a shocking new survey released today puts public satisfaction with the national health service at a record low, dropping to its worst level since the survey has been running. we're in a toxic relationship with the nhs. is it time for a divorce ? and to the time for a divorce? and to the teacher who lost his job for refusing to use a trans people's preferred pronouns, hearing today will decide if it was fair today will decide if it was fair to sack him and we'll get the latest on that judgement as it comes through. and that's all coming in your next action packed hour.