putney annual in putney for the annual oxford—cambridge race . and oxford—cambridge boat race. and there's been a new breakthrough in the fight against breast cancer. in the fight against breast cancer . i'll in the fight against breast cancer. i'll discuss in the fight against breast cancer . i'll discuss that with cancer. i'll discuss that with doctor renee hoenderkamp. got that right. plus, a former labour adviser, matthew labour party adviser, matthew la labour party adviser, matthew la la in the political spotlight la is in the political spotlight this week. but before we get started, get your latest this week. but before we get startewith get your latest this week. but before we get startewith sophia/our latest this week. but before we get startewith sophia wenzlerst this week. but before we get startewith sophia wenzler .: news with sophia wenzler. >> thanks, nana. good afternoon. it's 3:01. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom. your top story this hour . the gb newsroom. your top story this hour. the the gb newsroom. your top story this hour . the nationalities of this hour. the nationalities of migrants who commit crimes could be posted on a league table, with ministers saying it would give the government more power to tighten immigration laws. a group tory mps wants to see group of tory mps wants to see statistics on every offender convicted in england and wales published annually. they say the rules will help the home office impose stricter visa and deportation policies for certain countries. former immigration minister jenrick is minister robert jenrick is behind the plan, speaking exclusively to gb news, he said

the public wants to know how arrivals to the uk are impacting the country. >> i want the most and >> i want the most honest and transparent legal or illegal, immigration, legal or illegal, that we can possibly have, and it is wrong that the government or other agencies hide statistics. i have laid an amendment to the upcoming criminal justice bill, which tackles one of these issues, and it says that the government must pubush it says that the government must publish statistics on crimes and sentences by country of origin and by visa and asylum status. i think that the public want to know who's coming into our country and what the economic , country and what the economic, the fiscal and the societal impact of immigration is. >> now, the interim dup leader, gavin robinson, has told colleagues the party is not about any one individual and says it exists to build a better and stronger northern ireland. it follows the shock .

it follows the shock. resignation of sir jeffrey donaldson. he's been charged with historical sex offences. the psni has since warned against speculation on social media, which may lead to the identification of victims. it's understood sir jeffrey has told his party's officers that he will contest will strenuously contest the allegations against him. counter—terrorism allegations against him. counter—terrorisr stabbing allegations against him. counter—terrorisrstabbing an investigating the stabbing of an exiled iranian journalist in southwest london, pariah zarati, who was targeted outside his home in wimbledon , is said to be home in wimbledon, is said to be in a stable condition after suffering injury leg. suffering an injury to his leg. london tv iran london based tv channel iran international says the attack follows tehran's plot to kill two of its presenters in 2022. it's calling for stronger action against the regime, police say they're keeping an open mind regarding a motive . and in other regarding a motive. and in other news, two security sources have accused israel of striking a car carrying un observers in southern lebanon. the un peacekeeping mission says four people were injured. the israeli military denied any military has denied any involvement. meanwhile, further

aid airdrops have been carried out over gaza. the us military says it's conducted 18 airdrop missions this month. yesterday the uk dropped more than ten tons of aid, including rice , tons of aid, including rice, flour, tinned goods and water to help civilians in the netherlands, a hostage situation at a nightclub has ended peacefully. police arrested a man who was wearing a balaclava after he walked out of the venue . witnesses say he came out with his hands in the air, said people had been held in the club near the town of ede. authorities confirmed they've all been released. household budgets with budgets are about to be hit with bigger , higher bills. a range of bigger, higher bills. a range of services and products including broadband, mobiles, the tv licence and stamps are going up from monday. the average annual council tax bill is also increasing by £106, and water, sewerage charges in england and wales are rising by £27. a year. it's not all bad news, though. national insurance is going

down, along with energy bills falling to their lowest level in two years and classic magnum ice creams are being recalled over fears they may contain . metal fears they may contain. metal manufacturer unilever says the precautionary measure follows internal safety checks products sold in packs of three are being recalled, with the warning unked recalled, with the warning linked to five batches, with a best before date of the 25th of november. the company has apologised and says no other magnum are affected . magnum products are affected. and for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. com slash alerts now it's back to . nana. it's back to. nana. >> good afternoon. this is gb news. i'm nana akua. welcome on board. it'sjust news. i'm nana akua. welcome on board. it's just gone five minutes after 3:00 and it's time to mock the and a to mock the week. and what a busy it's angela busy one it's been. angela rayner has said that she did absolutely wrong when

absolutely nothing wrong when she told her when she sold her council house, after the police announced they reviewing announced they were reviewing a decision . the decision not to investigate. the deputy labour leader told bbc radio four's today programme she was confident she had not broken any rules as well. we shall see her about that . her about that. >> since those allegations were put to me, i got expert advice because i had advised at the time i don't don't an accountant. >> i was a home care worker, you know, an know, i didn't have an accountant . i know, i didn't have an accountant. i had, know, i didn't have an accountant . i had, as most accountant. i had, as most people would. you put your house on the market, you get a legal conveyancing and you on the market, you get a legal con'an ancing and you on the market, you get a legal con'an estate and you on the market, you get a legal con'an estate agent. and you on the market, you get a legal con'an estate agent. but d you on the market, you get a legal con'an estate agent. but since get an estate agent. but since those were put to those allegations were put to me, i got expert tax advice to make sure that i hadn't done anything wrong. >> great. well then you've got nothing worry have nothing to worry about, have you, decision to you, angela.7 the decision to determine whether to look into if angela broke electoral rules was reconsidered after the conservative mp james daly made a complaint about greater manchester police's handling of the good the rules must

the issue. good the rules must apply evenly if they decide to investigate. i mean, remember what you said about boris so if you are investigated, you know what you told him what to do. you told him to resign . well, this week saw sir resign. well, this week saw sir keir starmer accusing the prime minister, rishi sunak , of minister, rishi sunak, of trampling on johnson's trampling on boris johnson's levelling claiming trampling on boris johnson's leveplans claiming trampling on boris johnson's leveplans were claiming trampling on boris johnson's leveplans were killed claiming trampling on boris johnson's leveplans were killed at iming trampling on boris johnson's leveplans were killed at birth| the plans were killed at birth by rishi, the then chancellor. the labour leader praised the government's levelling up white papen government's levelling up white paper, that much of the paper, saying that much of the analysis it was good. but sir analysis in it was good. but sir keir went on to say the intention to invest local intention to invest in local communities never came to fruition mr sunak was to fruition and mr sunak was to blame . you've got to hand it to blame. you've got to hand it to laboun blame. you've got to hand it to labour. they played a blinder on the weak tory party, who capitulated and imploded over partygate, which resulted in getting rid of boris. the tories, of course, are on course to becoming the third party. we should have kept. boris in the meantime because, of course, angela rayner has provided convenient cover for keir, who, after his word with lindsay hoyle, the speaker, appeared to sort parliamentary sort of change parliamentary procedure . and all of that has

procedure. and all of that has supped procedure. and all of that has slipped under the radar. whatever you do, don't go into the water. that is the message for the boat race today. after flooding the rivers with raw sewage and failing build sewage and failing to build reservoirs infrastructure, sewage and failing to build reservcompaniesastructure, sewage and failing to build reservcompaniesastlengland are water companies in england are taking with taking the proverbial with thames water needing 500 million to itself up to date, its to bring itself up to date, its investors have refused to secure the cash despite receiving big dividend payouts. they're blaming regulator ofwat for making their plan uninvestable. thames , also facing thames water, also facing accusations of trying to blackmail the regulator into accepting its demands to hike customers bills. that's you and us up by 40. unbelievable reminds me of the great stink. honestly, it makes no sense to privatise something that's essential to life and has no competition. how does that work? clearly it doesn't . yesterday clearly it doesn't. yesterday marked the end of time, which saw hundreds of school children storming the milton keynes shopping centre . causing mayhem. shopping centre. causing mayhem. a security guard struggled to contain the antisocial chaos. around 300 children. some of

them were brazen. they were still their school still wearing their school uniform. they were seen rampaging the shopping rampaging through the shopping centre. seriously, where are the parents? the have obviously parents? the kids have obviously seen how badly the pro—palestine protests have been policed and worked out. the law enforcers won't do anything. lawless britain, here we come. and on a lighter note, soldiers and officers now allowed to grow officers are now allowed to grow beards serving army beards while serving in the army . the beards and moustaches must be neat, properly groomed and will be routinely checked. you can time is over can tell when peace time is over , when woke rules are disbanded and in. who cares and reality kicks in. who cares if beard? can you if you have a beard? can you fight ? so if you have a beard? can you fight? so coming up, if you have a beard? can you fight ? so coming up, comedian fight? so coming up, comedian. jordan john martin, i almost called him. jordan will be making light of this week's top stories the week 320. stories in mock the week at 320. i'll be speaking to performer mystifier uri geller about the easter celebrations in israel. at by a gp at 335. i'll be joined by a gp and medical writer, doctor renee hoenderkamp, to discuss the

latest breakthrough in the fight against breast cancer. you won't want to miss that. plus, we'll be partly annual be live in partly for the annual oxford—cambridge race . oxford—cambridge boat race. former party adviser former labour party adviser matthew the political matthew laza is in the political hot seat spotlight. this week we'll be discussing angela rayner's to publish her rayner's refusal to publish her personal tax advice she received over the sale of our council house. well, that's all coming up. tell me what you think on everything discussing. everything we're discussing. email gbviews@gbnews.com or tweet at . tweet me at. gb news. for joining me now to mock the week is comedian john martin, who's on short seat. what's on the short seat. what's happened you? don't i happened to you? i don't know, i might have you gone? might have. why have you gone? i'm on my tiptoes. >> that's very tall. >> that's very tall. >> still standing. >> nana. >> nana. >> lovely be here. >> it's lovely to be here. >> it's lovely to be here. >> nice to see you. yeah, my wife me, so it's lovely wife drove me, so it's lovely to be this be anywhere, to be honest. this is i'm not. i'm not is you. i mean, i'm not. i'm not criticising anyone's driving. i mean, i'm a really good driver. you want to see all the points

i've got being awarded on me? a license for . license for. >> i'm a bit like you. the first time i got points about four time i got points was about four years ago. i've racked them years ago. and i've racked them up ever since. >> like my local >> you sound like my local football team to be honest, i've >> you sound like my local foott since.1m to be honest, i've >> you sound like my local foott since. buto be honest, i've >> you sound like my local foottsince. but you honest, i've >> you sound like my local foott since. but you know, it, i've >> you sound like my local foott since. but you know, ini've ever since. but you know, in britain drive ever since. but you know, in bri the drive ever since. but you know, in bri the yeah, drive ever since. but you know, in bri the yeah, but drive ever since. but you know, in bri the yeah, but we're rive ever since. but you know, in bri the yeah, but we're one on the left. yeah, but we're on the now . we drive on the potholes now. we drive on what's left. what's left? i think what's left. very good. well, i've just got this new car. well, i've just got this new can those well, i've just got this new car. those south car. i've got one of those south korean driving and korean cars and i'm driving and he changing direction, and he keeps changing direction, and it goes this way. and then it goes that way. and then all of a sudden, it'll make a u—turn for nowhere. next totally reason. nowhere. next totally no reason. and different and it goes again, different direction. it's what they call a keir starmer i love it. >> boom boom. >> boom boom. >> that was great being here. i've just, i've just had a sandwich from the burger van outside, and it's very up—market that's been awarded four michelin tires, apparently. very good. yeah . good. yeah. >> i thought i was thinking you were going to go in that direction. i was thinking left u—turns got to be. it's got to

be a keir starmer. what do you make? >> not on the gauge. keir starmer, way. i mean all starmer, by the way. i mean all these know, these politicians, you know, just your. you're these politicians, you know, just going your. you're these politicians, you know, just going your you're just going through your list there. i've never known a time. and i'm old, you're and i'm old, i'm old, you're young, you're old. so got young, you're old. so we've got nana granddad. yeah. i've nana and granddad. yeah. i've never known a time when there's been incompetent science, when there's been ridiculousness from parliament. these politicians, i don't know how many of them could get a job in the real world. it'sjust. it's world. it's just. it's unbelievable. world. it'sjust. it's unbelievable. what's going on, you know, people talk about reform. i mean , they say reform reform. i mean, they say reform is the answer. if the if so, it must be a stupid question. but i think people are dying . think people are dying. absolutely dying for an alternative to the political system that we have at the moment. i think that's , you moment. i think that's, you know, and if it's reform or anyone else coming through, i think that's what people are crying for, you know, they talk about the latest thing, they talk rwanda thing is, talk about the rwanda thing is, is a deterrent. well, it certainly is, because it's

deterring people from voting conservative because of the because of the mess they've made. i mean , it's just lunacy. made. i mean, it's just lunacy. i mean, the . prime minister, the i mean, the. prime minister, the unelected prime minister. i don't mean to be controversial, but the unelected prime minister fish is sunak, you know, he's presiding over that disintegrate version presiding over that disintegrate versway he carries on, we don't the way he carries on, we don't need the general election. so many mps are standing down and having two by elections. it'll be change of government in a few weeks. the way things are carrying on and i've never known incompetence. jordan. the covid crisis and this is something i've spoke about on gb news pnor. i've spoke about on gb news prior . jordan the covid crisis, prior. jordan the covid crisis, rishi sunak was prime minister and he excluded from any support whatsoever nearly 3.5 million small businesses , freelancers. small businesses, freelancers. yeah, it's an outrage. it's just outrageous . and he said, you

outrageous. and he said, you know, he goes on television and says, you know, we're helping everyone and no one's left alone. and then 3.5 million people were excluded and, you know, one day, i hope gb news do a whole show about it because it's scandal coming it's the next scandal coming down the line. we've had the post office scandal, which is ludicrous. another one. you could solve it in two weeks. pay these people exactly . just pay these people exactly. just pay these people exactly. just pay the people what they're ju. you know, we've had we've had another honours list where this has from . i don't know how has come from. i don't know how come this guy, this leader of the post office, that woman, you know, alan bates . so how come he know, alan bates. so how come he didn't get an award? i know we've just had this. >> well, i think he wants them to get the money. probably to get the money. he's probably looking all want to looking at it. they all want to get an when? get the money. an award? when? i just money. the just want the money. give me the money. just want the money. give me the mo they the money. solve >> they deserve the money. solve it. no . we'll have it. don't go have no. we'll have another committee meeting and let's have a vote and we'll have a discussion on this. this will be just just pay be learned. just pay. just pay these way too long.

these people. it's way too long. >> it really. these people. it's way too long. >> it it really. these people. it's way too long. >> it really it really. these people. it's way too long. >> it really is it really. these people. it's way too long. >> it really is a it really. these people. it's way too long. >> it really is a scandal. lly. >> it really is a scandal. >> it really is a scandal. >> about this business with >> what about this business with angela council angela rayner and her council house know, don't angela rayner and her council housewhether know, don't angela rayner and her council housewhether kno apparently know whether she's apparently done everything legally and correctly. and it just just feels there's more you feels like there's more you know, i listen to all this going on with politicians and second, i was actually having a drink in the westminster bar the other week, and at the end of the night, the barman shouted, come on, everyone, drink up! >> haven't you second homes >> haven't you got second homes to you know the to go to? so you know the scandal after scandal, how can how can a politician use a second house as another revenue stream? and this has been going on for years. i would cancel all that. i would put a big hotel, make it a plush hotel. if you want, and say that's that's where you stay. >> well, that's. don't >> well, that's. i don't understand why they don't. >> well, that's. i don't unc but and why they don't. >> well, that's. i don't uncbut it's why they don't. >> well, that's. i don't uncbut it's lunacy. ey don't. >> well, that's. i don't uncbut it's lunacy. it'son't. >> well, that's. i don't uncbut it's lunacy. it's like >> but it's lunacy. it's like a second revenue in other countries. >> i think that's what they do. and it just seems very odd that these ones. you get money these ones. can you get money for second home electricity? for the second home electricity? i the scandal for the second home electricity? i the the scandal for the second home electricity? i the expenses, the scandal

for the second home electricity? i the expenses, withthe scandal for the second home electricity? i the expenses, with the scandal for the second home electricity? i the expenses, with the guydal with the expenses, with the guy who bought a duck moat for the ducks? he said they didn't even like didn't like ducks? he said they didn't even like moment.1idn't like the moment. >> it's horrendous. we're talking boat talking today about the boat race. yeah. i mean, race. this is a yeah. i mean, i can't understand that now. how come oxford and cambridge keep getting to the final? i don't know, but they're talking about the filth going into the rivers. it's absurd isn't it? and you know really, really know what? it is really, really gets . it's you're relying know what? it is really, really get�*not . it's you're relying know what? it is really, really get�*not me.. it's you're relying know what? it is really, really get�*not me. but you're relying on, not me. but you're relying on, not me. but you're relying on entertainers almost to come out and highlight feargal sharkey as a singer. and yet he's so prominent, so speaks, you know, so passionately about clean water. you have carol vorderman again, an entertainer, but she's having to highlight so many things of god. i don't know if corruption is a strong word. >> she's, she's i think she's laid back on having a go at people on twitter, which i think was a bit was bit was a bit it was a bit much, especially when working especially when she was working for left there to for the bbc. she left there to settle. can have her settle. now she can have her voice freely and no one

voice quite freely and no one can she does great with it. can and she does great with it. >> does great. she >> nana she does great. she highlights so many good things. >> nana she does great. she hig well,s so many good things. >> nana she does great. she hig well, she many good things. >> nana she does great. she hig well, she she1y good things. >> nana she does great. she hig well, she she does, d things. >> well, she she does, but i think she's very skewed one think she's very skewed to one side and does annoy me. side and that does annoy me. that irritate me. if if that does irritate me. if she if she highlight bad of she was to highlight the bad of the the bad the the left and the bad of the right, listening. right, i'd be listening. >> know the i'm >> but you know the point i'm making on these making on the left? these politicians aren't it. so politicians aren't doing it. so you're entertainers. politicians aren't doing it. so you'reof entertainers. politicians aren't doing it. so you'reof vote. entertainers. politicians aren't doing it. so you'reof vote. entertainers. politicians aren't doing it. so you'recomedians entertainers. politicians aren't doing it. so you'recomedians we'lltainers. politicians aren't doing it. so you'recomedians we'lltainers it. vote. comedians we'll all do it. we've in we've got enough of them in 10 downing street. >> really is quite >> i know it really is quite bad, it? and the water bad, isn't it? and the water thing really does wine thing actually really does wine me oh, awful me up, though. oh, it's awful because and the fact is off because they and the fact is off what supposedly regulator of what supposedly the regulator of this got a revolving this they've got a revolving door of job vacancies. so people leave of the big water leave one of the big water companies, go companies, then they go to ofwat. they all know the ofwat. so they all know the rules and it's constantly rotating. they're on some 1.5 million. after doing this to the water. >> it's horrendous. it's horrendous. and we see so many examples not just water but examples not just of water but you and electricity you know of gas and electricity and all these things. it's horrendous. never known horrendous. i've never known a time when country and i'm so time when our country and i'm so proud be, you know, british.

proud to be, you know, british. but god what what's happened to the country it's like turned into a you know, it's going downhill fast. >> well and finally what about the whole. well, there's a few things, but the shop storming kids in their school uniforms, so they're brazen now. so they're that brazen now. they've actually stormed the stores milton keynes. stores in milton keynes. >> that, you know, >> i saw that, you know, i mean, i shopping i was in my local shopping centre. in to a centre. i went in to buy a jacket and said the label jacket and it said on the label slightly imperfect . i mean, slightly imperfect. i mean, okay, one sleeve was longer than the other two, but but it was fine. no, you see this thing going on? it happens in america and they go online and all arranged to meet . at a shop. i arranged to meet. at a shop. i just don't i don't know what's happened to the country. i don't know what's happened to the police. the police investigate? >> see investigate? >> they do. >> well, you see what they do. >> well, you see what they do. >> importantly, is >> more importantly, where is the happened to the where? what's happened to 30s trace? 30s 7 billion track and trace? what happened to that? well, they where it they can't trace. where did it go? billion. it go? >> i literally, know, you >> i literally, you know, you couldn't stuff up. couldn't make this stuff up. and then finish the that

then to finish on the fact that they're concerned about they're more concerned about people the people with beards joining the army now. so >> no, i just hope, you know, we're . crying out for an we're. crying out for an election. we're crying out for change. and i just hope the police come in and have a look at all these contracts that were awarded of awarded and all this kind of thing, that's it thing, because that's what it needs. honestly believe the needs. i honestly believe the conservative party, the leadership know that they're going to be voted out, and perhaps just grab them what perhaps they just grab them what they can. >> well, i don't know. >> well, i don't know. >> in the world, that's >> in the real world, that's what well, in the what i would well, in the real world, lot are world, a lot of them are actually leaving now. i've given you instead of you an easter present instead of an okay? an egg. is that okay? >> comedian, mr tarbuck . >> be a comedian, mr tarbuck. that's journey. that's my journey. >> my people >> that's my people collect stuff like that, do they? >> they're called men. stuff like that, do they? >> are y're called men. stuff like that, do they? >> are . re called men. >> are. >> are. >> you can get it on amazon, but it's a bit far to go to buy a book. it is a bit. >> thank you. john has been really good to talk to you. >> i've been fabulous. >> i've been fabulous. >> i've been fabulous. >> i've really enjoyed it. you have to come back again.

>> i laugh too. can i have cash this we're . this time? no, we're. >> we don't kill cash. we won't kill here. of course kill cash here. of course we will. listen martin, will. listen john martin, thank you comedian. you so much. comedian. thank you. his you. john martin. his book, a comic's journey, and i'm you. john martin. his book, a comic'sjourney, and i'm going comic's journey, and i'm going to read it. well, listen, in response to the thames water , response to the thames water, saga, i'd like to saga, they have said i'd like to reassure customers that reassure our customers that despite this announcement, it is business usual for thames business as usual for thames water. our 8000 staff remain committed to working with our partners in the supply chain to provide our services for the benefit of our customers, communities and the environment. thank you again to john martin. this gb news is just coming this is gb news is just coming up to 20 minutes after 3:00. i'm dana akua. we're live on tv, onune dana akua. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. coming up, we'll be live in putney for the annual oxford—cambridge boat race. but next i'll be speaking to performer mystifier uri geller about celebrations about easter celebrations in israel . is .

gb news. good afternoon. if you just tuned in. where have you been? sorry. it'sjust tuned in. where have you been? sorry. it's just the start of the show. just coming up to 24 minutes after 3:00. this is gp news on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua right now. it's time to go live to aviv and have a chat with to tel aviv and have a chat with mystifier uri geller and find out . what's happening in israel out. what's happening in israel over easter. uri, thank you so much for joining over easter. uri, thank you so much forjoining me. i know you've got a special easter message for us. >> powerful easter >> yes, it's a powerful easter message. of all, nana, message. but first of all, nana, i wish you and all gb i want to wish you and all gb news viewers a very happy easter. this extra special easter. this is an extra special greeting because i'm saying it to you from the holy land . feel to you from the holy land. feel the energy. feel the power of the energy. feel the power of the holy land. now did you know that the christian population of israel is at a record high? there are close to 200,000

christians here. israel is the only place in the whole of the middle east where christianity is growing. christians are persecuted everywhere else. israel is the only country where christians are completely . free. christians are completely. free. now, right opposite my museum. i'm in my museum now. where i'm now standing. there is a beautiful church are beautiful church and there are arab restaurants . the arab christian restaurants. the owners are my friends and i always eat there. their food is among the best in the world. look nana israel is a place to be at easter. there are easter decorations everywhere and christian pilgrims love to come here in jerusalem. by the way, you can walk in jesus's footsteps on via de la rosa, and of course you can visit the actual site of jesus's crucifixion and resurrection. wow. now look above me nana.

that painting was actually painted by a british painter called andy harwood . the called andy harwood. the original was sold to abu dhabi that painting is called salvador mundi and the crystal orb that jesus is holding in his hand is up there . that is actually the up there. that is actually the original crystal. and i got it as a gift from salvador dali . as a gift from salvador dali. now, this is important. did you know nana, that there are christians in gaza? yes. there are about a thousand and they are about a thousand and they are persecuted by hamas. they have been attacked, murdered, and some have been forced to convert into islam. listen, this is terrible. christian graves have been dug up for polluting the earth. this is unbelievable. it's . horrific. but do you see it's. horrific. but do you see any protest? nana never. where are the human rights fanatics ? are the human rights fanatics? where are the people marching in

the the answer is the streets? the answer is because no one really cares. they only care about condemning israel. the one country which protests and protects christians. now let me just finish. i don't want to be too down about it, so please let me again wish all your christian viewers a very happy easter. and next year nana, please, you got to come to israel, to the holy land, and you've got to do your show from here. from my museum. is that a deal? >> that is a deal i would absolutely love to do my show. is a deal to do my is that a deal team to do my show in israel from uri's museum 7 show in israel from uri's museum ? i would absolutely love to do that. uri. it's such an honour. and now. and i'll take you around. >> i love you all. and again, positive energy from the holy land to all of you for easter. >> uri geller, it's really good to talk to you. thank you so

much. it's really good to speak to is the brilliant much. it's really good to speak to geller. is the brilliant much. it's really good to speak to geller. is tthere lliant uri geller. he's there in israel. know, israel. and of course, you know, israel. and of course, you know, i understand he's i do understand what he's saying. are saying. there and people are condemning, you know, does condemning, you know, he does feel condemning feel that people are condemning israel. know, and israel. but, you know, and obviously have a lot of we obviously we do have a lot of we do think a lot for do think and feel a lot for those who are in gaza as those people who are in gaza as well. to, you know, well. so just to, you know, nobody to any death nobody wants to see any death and destruction. you and destruction. well, if you just is just joined us. welcome. this is gb nana akua. we're gb news. i'm nana akua. we're live online and on live on tv, online and on digital radio and loads more still don't forget, still to come. now don't forget, get at gb get in touch gb views at gb news. tweet me at gb news. com or tweet me at gb news. com or tweet me at gb news. we'll get all your messages and i'll read some of them out as well. coming up on them out as well. coming up on the show the fabulous matthew laza, the hot seat. the show the fabulous matthew laza,not the hot seat. the show the fabulous matthew laza,not going the hot seat. the show the fabulous matthew laza,not going to :he hot seat. the show the fabulous matthew laza,not going to be hot seat. the show the fabulous matthew laza,not going to be one seat. the show the fabulous matthew laza,not going to be one ofit. the show the fabulous matthew laza,not going to be one of my he's not going to be one of my panel going to be my panel today. he's going to be my political spotlight, and we're going on going to be shining a light on the party and asking the labour party and asking whether it's true, because the greatest time, whether it's true, because the greatcurtice, time, whether it's true, because the greatcurtice, i time, whether it's true, because the greatcurtice, i think time, whether it's true, because the greatcurtice, i think it time, whether it's true, because the greatcurtice, i think it tim�*him john curtice, i think it was him that said that there's a 99.9% chance or 99% that, chance or 99% chance, that, in fact, party will win fact, the labour party will win this next coming general election. so of course, we're talking about easter. check this out because there's so many

things about easter, easter weekend, and most of all, most of us have polished off a lot of easter eggs. 1 or 2 already, chocolate eggs been sale chocolate eggs have been on sale in weeks now, but in shops for weeks now, but customers in gosport in hampshire, have been buying their local fish hampshire, have been buying theiichips local fish hampshire, have been buying theiichips shop local fish hampshire, have been buying theiichips shop , local fish hampshire, have been buying theiichips shop, dipped l fish hampshire, have been buying theiichips shop, dipped inish hampshire, have been buying theiichips shop, dipped in batter and chips shop, dipped in batter and chips shop, dipped in batter and deep fried perfection. we and deep fried perfection. so we send south west england send our south west of england reporter to try one. reporter jeff moody to try one. customers at scott's place in gosport are queuing out of the doom gosport are queuing out of the door, but it's not a battered sausage that's bringing them out on easter weekend. >> it's a creme egg rubbed in flour, dipped in batter and deep fried in oil sounds disgusting. >> wow, you say that, but they do come out quite nice. they are a peculiar taste , but it's very a peculiar taste, but it's very tasty. what's nice about it? it makes . the chocolate go gooey makes. the chocolate go gooey in, like, brownie like. and then it makes the filling nice and hot. >> yes, scott turner sells deep fried mars bars too, he just fried mars bars too, and he just can't fry fast enough. he

can't fry them fast enough. he sold 48 deep fried battered creme eggs day one, and that creme eggs on day one, and that number has been rising by the day. >> absolutely amazing. people love them. people are trying them that don't like the idea of it, oh my god, how it, but saying, oh my god, how amazing are. i mean, it's amazing they are. i mean, it's something you're either something that you're either going hate , but going to love or hate, but mostly people love it. absolutely yeah absolutely loving it. yeah >> the idea of combining batter and chocolate isn't really for the faint hearted. there are two flavours that many would say don't go together particularly well. time to try it . they go well. time to try it. they go together really , really well . together really, really well. it's delicious . together really, really well. it's delicious. but don't together really, really well. it's delicious . but don't take it's delicious. but don't take my word for it . what do the good my word for it. what do the good people of gosport think? >> it sounds very strange. personally, i wouldn't go for it normally , but i'm willing to normally, but i'm willing to have a try .

have a try. >> it's quite good. oh dear. that's good. >> that's actually got sort of a brownie texture type to it . that brownie texture type to it. that that couldn't be good for the waistline. >> smells good. >> smells good. >> looking good. you good good man . i'll put. man. i'll put. that's really good. >> i don't know how to describe it, but it's just really, really good. >> it's actually really good. oh my god. it's actually really, really good. this is not good though. so unhealthy . though. so unhealthy. >> if bored with >> so if you're bored with ordinary easter eggs, you know what you can do? batter them . what you can do? batter them. stick them in the chip pan

confection perfection . jeff confection perfection. jeff moody . gb news. moody. gb news. >> oh, that looks good, doesn't it ? i might try that. actually, it? i might try that. actually, i won't try it at home. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. on the way former labour party adviser matthew laza will be joining me for this labour party adviser matthew laza wipolitical|ing me for this labour party adviser matthew laza wipolitical spotlight.r this labour party adviser matthew laza wipolitical spotlight. upis week's political spotlight. up next, i'll be speaking to doctor renee hoenderkamp the renee hoenderkamp about the latest in breast latest breakthrough in breast cancer want cancer research. you won't want to but first, let's to miss that. but first, let's get latest news headlines . get your latest news headlines. >> it's 331. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom . your in the gb newsroom. your headunes in the gb newsroom. your headlines a league table showing the nationalities of migrants with the highest crime rates has been proposed . a group of tory been proposed. a group of tory mps wants to see the statistics published annually for every offender convicted in england and wales . they say the rules and wales. they say the rules will help the home office impose stricter visa and deportation policies for certain countries. former immigration minister

robert jenrick is behind the plan. speaking exclusively to gb news, he said the public wants to know how arrivals to the uk are impacting the country . are impacting the country. >> it is wrong that the government or other agencies hide statistics. i have laid an amendment to the upcoming criminal justice bill which tackles one of these issues, and it says that the government must pubush it says that the government must publish statistics on crimes and sentences by country of origin and by visa and asylum status . and by visa and asylum status. >> following the resignation of sir geoffrey donaldson, the interim dup leader gavin robinson has told colleagues the party is not about any one individual and says it exists to build a better and stronger northern ireland. sirjeffrey has been charged with historical sex offences. the psni has since warned against speculation on social media, which may lead to the identification of victims. it's understood sir jeffrey has told his party's officers he

will strenuously contest the allegations him . almost allegations against him. almost 5000 small boats have crossed the channel, so far this year, with border force taking almost 300 people to dover after intercepting them today . the intercepting them today. the home office says french counterparts are facing growing dangers as they attempt to intervene, with police saying they're experiencing growing levels of violence and disruption on northern beaches and classic magnum ice creams are being recalled over fears they may contain metal . they may contain metal. manufacturer unilever says the precautionary measure follows internal safety checks, products sold in packs of three are being recalled, with the warning unked recalled, with the warning linked to five batches, with a best before date of the 25th of november. the company has apologised and says no other magnum products are affected . magnum products are affected. and for the latest story, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. com slash alerts now it's back to . nana.

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welcome back. if you went somewhere. why? this is gp news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. i am nana akua now. listen, there is exciting news in the fight against breast cancen news in the fight against breast cancer. have made cancer. as scientists have made a discovery a groundbreaking discovery on targeting hibernating tumour cells. this breakthrough cells. now, this breakthrough offers prospects for offers promising prospects for patients with oestrogen receptor positive breast cancer the most common type. so joining me now to is a gp and medical to discuss is a gp and medical writer, doctor renee hoenderkamp renee.

writer, doctor renee hoenderkamp renee . doctor renee here again renee. doctor renee here again both in green i know talk to me about this. talk to me about it. it's fascinating. this is it's fascinating. so this is really it's fascinating. so this is reaiso all cells body are >> so all cells in the body are constantly undergoing or constantly undergoing damage or things that change them. >> for example >> so for example when you're pregnant breasts change pregnant and your breasts change i'm talking about breasts. >> changes. >> cells undergo changes. >> cells undergo changes. >> the body corrects them >> but the body corrects them all of the time. >> so we've got these cells >> so we've got these t cells running correcting running around correcting problems. discovered problems. they've discovered that in women that have the gene for breast cancer, brca1 and brca2 , that's also responsible brca2, that's also responsible for ovarian cancer as well. these t cells are exhausted. they don't work properly . now they don't work properly. now normally we only see this in t cells in late stage cancer where they've tried so hard to fight they've tried so hard to fight the cancer and make it right that they are exhausted, but unfortunately , these women with unfortunately, these women with breca have got them very early on in the before. they've even got disease. but that's quite exciting in knowing that exciting because in knowing that we can then we hope because we've still got trials to go use the immunotherapies that we use late in cancer to try and stimulate those cells, use them

early on in women that are at risk so that they never get cancen risk so that they never get cancer. and the exciting thing about is , is that women about that is, is that women with this gene then don't have to have mastectomies , which are to have mastectomies, which are emotionally and physically damaging. they don't have to have their womb and uterus out because we can stop the cancer developing. so it is really exciting . and i think my view on exciting. and i think my view on this when i read it was the more we know about the genes involved in cancer, the more than we can look for commonality amongst the people have got gene people that have got that gene to see what it is that's driving it. and this is how they discovered this. so they looked at 800,000 breast cells from women who had the genes and discovered that the thing that was common to them were these exhausted t cells . so now they exhausted t cells. so now they can look for a solution to that. >> so what the hibernating >> so what about the hibernating cells? are ones cells? because these are ones where they got of where they think they got rid of the but some of the cancer. but then some of them lay dormant they've not them lay dormant and they've not exposed don't them lay dormant and they've not exp�*killed don't them lay dormant and they've not exp�*killed chemotherapy. don't them lay dormant and they've not exp�*killed chemotherapy. so n't get killed by chemotherapy. so they a way getting they found a way of getting them to express themselves early. >> it's to do >> so again, and it's all to do with system and

with the immune system and recharging that these recharging it so that these things themselves . and they things show themselves. and they can then actually just target them immunotherapies . them with these immunotherapies. i mean, immunotherapies are absolutely when they absolutely magical when they work, but we're still in an early stage. >> what does it really mean when you're talking about immunotherapy? because people hear what does it mean. hear that and what does it mean. >> so immunotherapy actually targets cell. and targets one particular cell. and your up of your immune system is made up of hundreds differenttypes your immune system is made up of hundreds different types of hundreds of different types of cells all have different cells who all have a different job. of them are job. most of them are interlinked. and in these cancers things have gone wrong. and you don't have enough of them don't the them or you don't have the specific so an specific one. so an immunotherapy drug actually stimulates your own immune system to find something on the cells kill. i see that cells and then kill. i see that cancer cell. >> so it's your own immune system, not some external thing. so it stimulates what if you've system, not some external thing. so it stautoimmuneit if you've system, not some external thing. so it stautoimmune conditione got an autoimmune condition because you've got the last thing you want is a stimulation of the immune cells because they tend you. of the immune cells because they ten they you. of the immune cells because they ten they do. you. of the immune cells because they ten they do. but»u. of the immune cells because they ten they do. but we also >> they do. but we also use immunotherapy in autoimmune conditions by dampening down the cells that are attacking you. so it actually is an immunosuppressive state that then stops those cells that are

causing your you know, arthritis, you know, whatever it is, lupus from actually attacking you. so they just use them in different ways to either accelerate or dampen down the cells that are going rogue, so they can talk at specific cells within the immunotherapy. you turn them on or them turn them on or turn them someone and some off. >> that's impressive isn't it? >> that's impressive isn't it? >> it is impressive, but it's an individual tailored medicine >> it is impressive, but it's an indivi(going ilored medicine >> it is impressive, but it's an indivi(going to red medicine >> it is impressive, but it's an indivi(going to take1edicine >> it is impressive, but it's an indivi(going to take1edici|isn't >> it is impressive, but it's an indit'sgoing to take1edici|isn't >> it is impressive, but it's an indit's goingto take1edici|isn't >> it is impressive, but it's an indit's going to takefedicirisn't >> it is impressive, but it's an indit's going to take edicirisn't >> it is impressive, but it's an indit's going to take time. sn't it? it's going to take time. it's also to take people it's also going to take people to enough to up to feel happy enough to give up their information to be their genetic information to be looked some looked at. and i think for some people, even me to a degree, for some people, that's still a bit of issue . not because some people, that's still a bit of don't issue . not because some people, that's still a bit of don't want; . not because some people, that's still a bit of don't want this ot because some people, that's still a bit of don't want this kind cause you don't want this kind of advance, you wonder what advance, because you wonder what else people are going to use it for. >> that's true. it's always the way, isn't it? we find something good, then we something bad. good, then we do something bad. doctor renee hoenderkamp, thank you for talking to me doctor renee hoenderkamp, thank you that for talking to me doctor renee hoenderkamp, thank you that pleasure (ing to me doctor renee hoenderkamp, thank you that pleasurezing clearing about that pleasure and clearing that listen. that up. wow well, listen. stay tuned. an impressive development. how it development. let's see how it progresses. up, progresses. but coming up, political where political spotlight, where former adviser former labour party adviser matthew lalor will joining me matthew lalor will be joining me in light on this in to shine a light on this week's politics though, week's politics next, though,

oxford to oxford and cambridge go head to headin oxford and cambridge go head to head in the annual boat race, you won't want miss it.

so. good afternoon. welcome on board. this is gb news. i'm nana akua. we are the people's channel now . the cambridge channel now. the cambridge women's team are celebrating victory oxford victory as they beat oxford university in the annual boat race river thames for the race on the river thames for the seventh time in a row. the men's boat race is about to get underway. but will cambridge retain title? well gb news retain their title? well gb news reporter will hollis is riverside. don't fall in, will. don't fall in. so talk to me. what's it like out there? >> yes. well, if you're on that end, you'd be hearing the celebration of cambridge women. but right now, here at putney bridge, you can probably hear the cheering from people that

are spectating on the banks of the river thames. and i'm just seeing people pointing to the side because men's boat race side because the men's boat race has . oxford and has just begun. oxford and cambridge racing cambridge have been racing for more for almost 200 years. more than for almost 200 years. this is a real tradition , not this is a real tradition, not just for the universities, but also for the local culture here in putney. there's lots of people as well coming from around the world. we've spoken to canadians, we've spoken to americans as well as a lot of people from europe, and they're just shoulder as just going over our shoulder as well. you can just well. actually, if you can just look direction , it look into this direction, it looks like they're pretty much neck neck to be honest. but neck and neck to be honest. but as you said very rightly at the start, they're nana cambridge hold the title and they seem to do really well . over the last do really well. over the last five years, cambridge women have just taken it about an hour ago as well. it's going to be a really tight race and it tends to be pretty tight, and this has been making headlines around the world, but it's also been making headunes world, but it's also been making headlines for all of the wrong reasons, particularly because of sewage pollution here along this

section of the river thames, the river action group, as well as the fulham boat club, have assessed the levels of pollution just around the corner where the rowing boats are going to be passing. you can see just how, just the effect, in fact , we just the effect, in fact, we might even get splashed by a little bit of a water. it's come up really high and in the distance see the distance you can see all the boats following well as the boats following as well as the police, the levels of e.coli police, but the levels of e.coli are higher than they are massively higher than they should be, ten times higher than the safe standards by the environment agency. the environment agency. the environment agency. the environment agency recently released those record figures for 2023, twice as much, levels of sewage discharge in 2023. and my feet have just been soaked. oh, my gosh. well, my feet are absolutely soaked in river water. i hope i don't have any, open.i water. i hope i don't have any, open. i hope i don't have any blisters or anything because thatis blisters or anything because that is full of e.coli , that is full of e.coli, absolutely full of e.coli on my nice coat . absolutely covered. nice coat. absolutely covered. we've left. we've left our coats all over the floor, and they're

absolutely covered. nana, so we can only imagine what's going on down into far down there into the far distance. and a quarter distance. four and a quarter miles end of this course, miles to the end of this course, where the water is splashing up everywhere, and hopefully . those everywhere, and hopefully. those rowers from oxford and cambridge aren't getting too splashed because warning from the because the warning from the organisers not get wet, organisers is not to get wet, not river into your not to get river water into your cuts and into your blisters and not to jump in. but i think all of that has gone out of the window right now with my feet. absolutely soaking. >> nana well, you better you better get to have a wash, for god's sake. will and just close your that's will your mouth. that's will hollis. he's reporter. he's he's our gb news reporter. he's out oxford out there at the oxford and cambridge boat the cambridge boat race by the thames. wow poor man. what's your coat as well? this is gb news. welcome on board. it's time now for this week's political spotlight. and joining me shine a light is former me to shine a light is former labour party adviser matthew lazor. matthew angela lazor. well, matthew angela rayner denied rayner has again denied any wrongdoing that wrongdoing as police say that they're a decision they're reassessing a decision not claims she not to investigate claims she gave on

gave false information on official documents. we've also got the deputy got the case of the deputy leader who's facing questions about whether she paid the right amount of tax in the 2015 for the of her house, she said. the sale of her house, she said. she's received legal advice and she didn't break any and she didn't break any rules, and she's refused make that she's also refused to make that tax so joining me tax advice public. so joining me now, . well yeah. now, matthew lazor. well yeah. >> well look, i mean, i think angelina's weeks . it angelina's had better weeks. it would be fair to say i think actually the right, in the right place now because it's being looked at by the local council in stockport in greater manchester, the council manchester, which is the council responsible, greater responsible, and by the greater manchester police. greater manchester police had a quick look there was look and sort of said there was nothing investigate. they've look and sort of said there was notifurther nvestigate. they've look and sort of said there was notifurther complaints they've had further complaints from a tory looking at tory mp, so they are looking at it in more detail. i think it's probably right. they look at it properly. yes, angela has said she's got legal advice that she has, convinced has, that she's she's convinced she all the has, that she's she's convinced she things all the has, that she's she's convinced she things and, all the has, that she's she's convinced she things and, andll the has, that she's she's convinced she things and, and done all right things and, and done all the things and i think the right things and i think that will gone that that advice will have gone to who's chief to sue gray, who's keir's chief of the ethics of staff. who was the ethics chief, who who chief, sue gray, who is who is pretty tough who pretty tough with people who break and get break the rules and we'll get them, know, actually and them, you know, and actually and you know, i wouldn't have a reason protect angela, you

reason to protect angela, you know, come know, if it was going to come out on, want to get out later on, she'd want to get the early, because the pain in early, because that's in that's what everybody in politics think politics wants to do, so i think that to all right that it's going to be all right for angela when the investigations are looked at, but i'm glad they're being looked at independently now. so that it to and that will put it to bed once and for should we have quick >> should we have a quick look at she said? let's see at what she has said? let's see what about this puppy- puppy- >> if we are going to have a level playing field and we suddenly decide that conservative need to conservative ministers need to hand over their tax affairs, i'm happy to. if you show me yours and i'll show you mine , show me yours. >> i'll show you mine. last time i said that was a scoundrel . yeah. >> i mean, look, i think angela, i mean, it may not we may not agree with it, but angela sometimes she's sometimes feels that she's treated because treated unfairly because she's a working class she's not working class woman. she's not a graduate. school 16. graduate. she left school at 16. no. hard no. and she gets a hard time for. what. that's what for. that's what. that's what she. she thinks. she. that's what she thinks. >> that >> the typical cliches that people try and use people bring out to try and use as ithink right people bring out to try and use as i think right that it's >> i think it's right that it's being at independently, being looked at independently, and, and we'll get get the and, and we'll get we'll get the definitive whether definitive answers on whether she's she she's got any questions she should she got anything. >> she should show the advice. >> she should show the advice. >> if that's what i think. i

think it's i think i agree think now it's i think i agree with you. wasn't being with you. if it wasn't being investigated because like that wouldn't, put an wouldn't, how would you put an end but as it's all going end to it? but as it's all going to be as being looked at, to be as it's being looked at, i think if she think it'd be weird if she showed the advice. >> haven't decided whether >> they haven't decided whether they're is investigating. council is investigating. >> councils it. >> yeah. to the councils at it. yeah. are going yeah. the police are going to have look at whether have another look at whether they look more depth. they should look in more depth. and looking as and the council are looking as well of the electoral well in terms of the electoral registration, whether she was in the and council registration, whether she was in the and and council registration, whether she was in the and things and council registration, whether she was in the and things like and council registration, whether she was in the and things like that.)uncil registration, whether she was in the and things like that. so cil tax and things like that. so hopefully some hopefully we'll get some definitive you hopefully we'll get some definitnot you hopefully we'll get some definitnot and you hopefully we'll get some definitnot and just you hopefully we'll get some definitnot and just not you know, not and just not everybody's tea. but everybody's cup of tea. but she is refreshing voice is a refreshing voice in politics. you politics. we don't have you know, politics of men know, politics is full of men like special like me who've been special advisers. nice to advisers. and so it's nice to have has proper have somebody who has proper real you know, have somebody who has proper r> so let's for her i think i

think, yeah, let's fingers crossed for her that it comes out way. she's out the right way. she's obviously that obviously confident about that because she's got this independent because she's got this indejthink 1t because she's got this indejthink if you'd have told >> i think if you'd have told her that won't, won't. her that she won't, she won't. >> you had told her >> i think if you had told her to its three and a half to pay, its three and a half grand is the the amount. grand is the is the amount. i think if you told that she think if you told her that she hadnt think if you told her that she hadn't interest. she's hadn't plus interest. if she's plus a check plus interest, i think a check would written if she'd would have been written if she'd been because been told that. because that would of trying been told that. because that wc close of trying been told that. because that wc close down. of trying been told that. because that wcclose down. so of trying been told that. because that wcclose down. so there trying been told that. because that wcclose down. so there must; to close it down. so there must be confident, be pretty confident, otherwise they wouldn't be risking it. >> you make of >> now, what do you make of this polling? think it polling? john kurtz i think it was john curtis. yeah, it was labour party of 99% chance of winning. don't agree. >> i mean, know, >> i mean, you know, i think labour the moment >> i mean, you know, i think laithings the moment >> i mean, you know, i think laithings stand the moment >> i mean, you know, i think laithings stand labourie moment >> i mean, you know, i think laithings stand labour ismoment as things stand labour is overwhelmingly but a lot overwhelmingly likely. but a lot of can wrong we've of things can go wrong as we've seen, dear seen, you know, events, dear boy, former prime boy, events, as former prime minister in the 50s. minister once said in the 50s. so labour so you could see labour derailed, something could go wrong, think you'd have to wrong, but i think you'd have to see something wrong for see something go very wrong for labour not to become the largest party. i think it's the question of labour of whether labour will get a majority and how big that majority and how big that majority will be, because labour will lot will come under a lot of scrutiny six scrutiny over the next six months, with sunak having decided the decided not to call the election. i think that that's obviously of reasons obviously one of the reasons that 10 say that they

that his number 10 say that they delay election that delay in the election is so that they scrutiny on they can be more scrutiny on labour's that's well. >> i think that's wise as well. people call the people are saying call the election. thinking no , let's election. i'm thinking no, let's see people. it's see what these people. if it's a 99% and curtis is 99% dead cert and john curtis is pretty it. pretty good with it. >> mean, i used to do election >> i mean, i used to do election night programmes with him all the don't know. so night programmes with him all tithink don't know. so night programmes with him all tithink he's don't know. so night programmes with him all tithink he's right don't know. so night programmes with him all tithink he's right as»n't know. so night programmes with him all tithink he's right as itt know. so night programmes with him all tithink he's right as it stands so i think he's right as it stands at the moment. obviously, at the moment. but obviously, the the longer at the moment. but obviously, th goes the longer at the moment. but obviously, thgoes on the longer at the moment. but obviously, thgoes on that, the longer at the moment. but obviously, th goes on that, tiknow,;er it goes on that, you know, wheels fall labour wheels could fall off the labour bus even all four wheels bus and even if all four wheels don't it, least don't fall off it, at least labour would, know, be under labour would, you know, be under pressure in that it hasn't pressure in a way that it hasn't been. we've an been. but we've seen an extraordinary story today. the daily polling, daily mail's done this polling, which that labour which shows that labour is more trusted on defence and on spending more on defence than the tories. is it? well, but the tories. is it? well, no. but this just shows how on every area it used to be that defence was like labour's achilles heel. area it used to be that defence wasthingsabour's achilles heel. area it used to be that defence wasthings arerr's achilles heel. area it used to be that defence wasthings are going 1illes heel. area it used to be that defence wasthings are going 1il|the1eel. so, things are going in the right let's hope right direction. let's hope angela is saved. >> and briefly, what about the fact they're talking about reform being second reform being the second party? >> well i think i think >> yeah. well i think i think look i think the blackpool by—election, which is coming up, is the one to watch because we'll see what happens with reform there. i think the tories are very worried it's good

territory up in territory for them up in blackpool. labour will territory for them up in bla(that. .. labour will territory for them up in bla(that... it's labour will territory for them up in bla(that. .. it's good ur will win that. but it's good territory how reform territory to see how well reform actually the labour party also >> i think the labour party also need to be careful because i think reform are picking at labour's votes. >> i think reform >> i think i think reform could be for labour if be a big danger for labour if labour power with labour gets into power with a lot people unsatisfied labour gets into power with a l more of me next week. >> more of me next week. >> you'll be back on the panel next coming up, though, next week, coming up, though, of course. james schneider fabulous james schneider will be joining monologue joining me now. but my monologue is first, let's get is up next. but first, let's get an your weather. an update with your weather. >> like things are heating >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers. sponsors of weather gb news is . weather on gb news is. >> hello there. welcome to your latest gb news weather forecast from the met office. as we go through the rest of this easter weekend, we will see some further sunshine, but there is still some rain in the forecast, all courtesy of areas of low pressure which are going to hang all courtesy of areas of low pressuracross1 are going to hang all courtesy of areas of low pressuracross the; going to hang all courtesy of areas of low pressuracross the british to hang all courtesy of areas of low

pressuracross the british isles|ng around across the british isles as we go through the coming days. as we end saturday, for days. so as we end saturday, for many actually, we will see clearing but there will clearing skies, but there will be some heavy showers still down towards the south—west of england , and they will spread england, and they will spread their south—west england, and they will spread their and south—west england, and they will spread their and eventuallyth—west england, and they will spread their and eventually into est wales and eventually into northern ireland towards the end of the and at the same of the night and at the same time cloud will time some misty low cloud will just from the just begin to spill in from the nonh just begin to spill in from the north where we do see north sea. but where we do see the of skies, we the clearest of the skies, we will see touch of frost as we will see a touch of frost as we start easter day. but we will see plenty of sunshine first thing across many central parts. but misty low cloud will but this misty low cloud will spill its way further westwards as through the course of as we go through the course of the come afternoon, the day. so come the afternoon, many of england and wales many parts of england and wales will see plenty of cloud, a few spits and spots of rain, so the best brightness will be best of the brightness will be across and northern across scotland and northern ireland. here continue ireland. but here will continue the few showers the risk of a few showers temperature wise in the sunshine, reaching around 40 or 15 degrees, and then looking ahead to easter monday. 15 degrees, and then looking ahead to easter monday . a rather ahead to easter monday. a rather wet picture for many parts of england and wales. some heavy rain in places scotland and

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also former adviser to jeremy corbyn, james schneider. well here's what else is coming. couldn't smile a bit but the great british debate this hour. i'm asking is it time to nationalise water then? and 11 will be here to give us the latest from behind the palace walls in royal roundup at five. it's difficult conversation. it's my difficult conversation. a man living with hiv will be taking us through how he turned his illness into empowerment. you will not want to miss his story. but before all of that, let's latest news let's get your latest news headunes. headlines. >> good afternoon to you. these are the latest news headlines . are the latest news headlines. the nationalities of migrants who commit crimes could be posted on a league table, with ministers saying it would give the government power to the government more power to tighten immigration a tighten immigration laws. a group wants to see group of tory mps wants to see statistics on every offender convicted in england and wales published annually. they say the rules will help the home office impose stricter visa and deportation policies for individuals from certain

countries. the former immigration minister, robert jenrick, is behind the plan. speaking exclusively to gb news, he said he wants the public to know what impact arrivals to the uk are having on the country. >> i want the most honest and transparent about transparent debate about immigration on legal or illegal that we can possibly have, and it is wrong that the government or other agencies uses hide statistics. i have laid an amendment to the upcoming criminal justice bill, which tackles one of these issues, and it says that the government must pubush it says that the government must publish statistics on crimes and sentences by country of origin , sentences by country of origin, and by visa and asylum status. i think that the public want to know who's coming into our country and what the economic, the fiscal and the societal impact of immigration is. >> now almost 5000 small boats have crossed the channel so far this year , with border force this year, with border force officials escorting almost 300

illegal migrants on to dover today after intercepting them. the home office says their french counterparts are facing growing dangers in their efforts to intervene . french police are to intervene. french police are saying they're experiencing increasing levels of violence and disruption on the northern beaches france . the interim beaches of france. the interim dup leader , gavin robinson, has dup leader, gavin robinson, has told colleagues the party is not about any one individual, saying it exists to build a better and stronger northern ireland. it follows the shock resignation of sir jeffrey donaldson, who's been charged with historical sex offences. the police service of northern ireland has since warned against any speculation on social media, which may lead to the identification of one of the victims. as it's understood, sir jeffrey has told his party officers he will strenuously contest the allegations against him . now counter—terrorism him. now counter—terrorism police are investigating the stabbing of an exiled iranian journalist in south—west london,

perea zarate, who was targeted outside his home in wimbledon, is said to be in a stable condition after suffering an injury leg. london injury to his leg. the london based television channel iran international says the attack follows tehran's plot to kill two of its presenters in 2022. it's calling for stronger action against the regime. police say they're keeping an open eye regarding motives . two security regarding motives. two security sources have accused israel of striking a car carrying un observers in southern lebanon. the united nations peacekeeping mission says four people were injured. the israeli military has denied any involvement. meanwhile, further aid drops have been carried out in gaza and the west military saying it's conducted 18 such missions this month. yesterday the uk dropped more than ten tonnes of food and human supplies, including rice flour, tinned goods and water to help civilians affected by the ongoing conflict in the netherlands. a hostage situation in a nightclub has ended

peacefully . police arrested a peacefully. police arrested a man who was wearing a balaclava after he walked out of the venue. witnesses say he came out with his hands in the air. several people had been held in the club inside , but the the club inside, but the authorities have confirmed they've been released . they've all now been released. out here in the uk, household budgets are to be hit by bigger bills. we're told a range of services and products, including broadband, mobiles , tv licences broadband, mobiles, tv licences and stamps are all going up from monday . the average annual monday. the average annual council tax bill is also increasing by £106, and water and sewage charges in england and sewage charges in england and wales are going to rise by £27 a year. it's not all bad news, though. national insurance is going down, along with some energy bills falling to their lowest level in two years. but i do have a bit of bad news for you. classic magnum ice creams are being recalled over fears they may contain metal. the manufacturer, unilever, says the precautionary measure follows

internal safety checks and products sold in packs of three are being recalled, with the warning linked to five batches, with the best before date of the 25th of november. the company has apologised and says no other magnum products are affected . magnum products are affected. for the very latest stories, do sign up to gb news alerts. scan the qr code on screen or go the qr code on your screen or go to news. common alerts . to gb news. common alerts. >> thank you polly. good afternoon. it's fast approaching six minutes after 4:00. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. i resent the fact that something that is naturally resourced and something which is actually a monopoly is owned by china, kuwait, abu dhabi, etc. who clearly don't give a stuff. i'm talking, of course, about our water and specifically the water companies in england. water is a vital and free source

that comes from the sky. and as far as i can see, it's plentiful, but it's been sold down the river. whilst the government in scotland sensibly control the water there. and in wales it's run as a not for profit company . wales it's run as a not for profit company. in england we have foolishly sold out to companies from abroad whose shareholders come first. but instead of investing their profits back into the into improving the infrastructure as promised and building reservoirs to service an ever expanding population , seven water population, seven water companies in england have dished out billions to their shareholders in the form of dividends . the result has been dividends. the result has been devastating. last year alone saw a 105% increase in raw sewage discharges for just over 12 months, 3.6 million hours were reported, which made 2023 the worst year for storm water pollution . just imagine that for pollution. just imagine that for a moment, if you will, over 3.6

million hours of untreated raw sewage going into our rivers and our waterways. it's disgusting . our waterways. it's disgusting. a loophole allows water companies to discharge during heavy rainfall, and we've had a lot of that. this has apparently been one of the wettest years on record. some of the worst offenders were anglian water, who discharged for around about 273,163 hours, a 205% increase. wessex water, at 372,341 hours, and thames water, who saw a 163% increase to 196,414 hours of untreated raw sewage being discharged. the result, e.coli in, for example, the thames is rampant in the stretch where the boat race took place today. the customary celebration of jumping into the water afterwards has been banned and with nearby areas like the river acton recording nearly ten times the

acceptable level for bathing, i'm not surprised the athletes taking part have also been advised to cover any blisters or wounds in case the water gets into them. it's horrendous. the effect wildlife has been effect of wildlife has been devastating and in the marine life just beneath beneath our feet, we're actually finding they're full of drugs, they're full of contraceptive pill antidepressants , anti—anxiety antidepressants, anti—anxiety medication, every single marine species that we've looked at so far is full of cocaine. >> oh . >> oh. >> oh. >> so whilst water companies have been fined by the useless regulator, ofwat, the fines have been factored into their business model and it's actually far more cost effective for them to pay them than to invest in the infrastructure needed to solve the problems. the extent of the being done by of the damage being done by these companies would uncovered by an investigation , by an off.what investigation, whose spokesperson said we have strengthened the rules to allow us to take enforcement action against companies that pay dividends to its shareholders, where environmental

where their environmental performance does not meet our expectations, where companies fall short, we act over recent years, we have imposed penalties of over £300 million and we currently have our biggest ever investigation underway with live investigations into six companies. but with the ceos of some of these companies on an average of 1.5 million a year, which means they're doing a great job for the shareholders and revolving door between and the revolving door between the water companies and off what they how to play the they know how to play the system. they have refused to put in the investment required, instead requesting off water instead requesting the off water proof, our bills, i proof, doubling our bills, i think not. let me tell you what i would do. what these water companies have done to the environment is, in my view, criminal. it's not often i agree with ed davey. he said the scandal of raw sewage pouring into our waterways should be declared national emergency . declared a national emergency. and he called for a meeting with sage, government's sage, the government's scientific committee, scientific advisory committee, to into the impact raw to look into the impact raw sewage on people's health. i

sewage has on people's health. i would find them their entire value and put these worthless companies back into public ownership. either that or an environmental class action against them . so before we get against them. so before we get stuck into the debates , here's stuck into the debates, here's what else is coming up today for the great british debate this houn the great british debate this hour. i'm asking, it time to hour. i'm asking, is it time to renationalise water, thames water is plunged into financial crisis, with bosses refusing to rule out a 40% hike in bills. stay tuned, we'll be discussing that then. at 450, it's royal roundup time . royal biographer roundup time. royal biographer angela levin will be live here to give us the latest from behind the palace walls on the menu, charles is expected menu, king charles is expected to easter service to make the easter service tomorrow, we'll miss on tomorrow, but we'll miss out on the lunch as he undergoes the annual lunch as he undergoes cancer then, at five, cancer treatment. then, at five, it's my difficult conversation. phil baldwin , a man living with phil baldwin, a man living with hiv, will be talking us through how he turned his illness into empowerment. you'll be joining me live in the studio that's

coming up in the next hour. tell me what you think on everything we're gb views we're discussing. email gb views at com or me at. at gb news. com or tweet me at. gb news. all right. let's get started. let's welcome again to my panel broadcast from columnist lizzie cundy. and as a former to jeremy corbyn, former adviser to jeremy corbyn, james schneider, james smile , james schneider, james smile, you've been on holiday or living elsewhere in a nice hot country, getting a tan . how do you feel getting a tan. how do you feel coming to country coming back to this country heanng coming back to this country hearing water hearing about this water disaster ? disaster? >> the situation with >> i mean, the situation with privatised is a national disgrace. >> i agree with, i think basically every single word of your monologue, we've been taken for scam since 1989, for an enormous scam since 1989, with the privatisation in that time, bills are up 40% in real terms . terms. >> they were. these companies were giving away, public assets were giving away, public assets were given away. 70% of the shareholders are owned by overseas shareholders. they had no debts. now they have £60 billion in debts. they've paid

out . £72 billion in debts. they've paid out. £72 billion in dividends. and we were told that privatised water would be more efficient. it's not more efficient. we can see pollution see that with the pollution and with and with the bills going up, and that will lots of that there will be lots of investment, there's investment, but actually there's 15% less investment than there was when it was under public ownership . and think you're ownership. and i think you're quite companies quite right that these companies are worthless and they should be taken back into the public hands. and if the shareholders and the executives don't like it, well, then we should have very, very serious legal challenges against them for the damage to our health, the damage to our natural resources . it damage to our health, the damage to our natural resources. it is absolutely despicable. and the thing i find completely baffling is that this is so obvious, this is that this is so obvious, this is so common sense. you know, often you and i, we're on different sides of an argument here. we are absolutely in lock step. think the vast step. and i think the vast majority of british people majority of the british people would position. would be in the same position. and neither of our main and yet neither of our main parties are remotely close to talking about it. they both want to slightly

to carry on with slightly tweaked the same tweaked versions of the same system , hoping off.what system, hoping that off.what this is going this useless regulator is going to somehow it's going to somehow fix things . fix things. >> lizzie cundy i'm absolutely appalled. >> i agree with everything you both have said. >> i mean, the boat race has been going since 1856 and think today of what they can't even celebrate and go in the water because they're scared of catching e.coli and goodness knows what. >> i honestly, i think this is it is absolutely it is horrific. and to think there's executives at five of 11 water companies who have said they've got this, you know, they've put their hands up, have still taken bonuses this is an absolute disgrace. i'm calling it environmental vandalism, nothing more . and it's we have to do more. and it's we have to do something about this. >> but the thing is it's going on. they're getting away with this quite quietly. and as james said, nobody's really talking about it. i don't quite get why that is, why this is essential

to life. water is the one thing that we all need , irrespective that we all need, irrespective of anything else. if we do not have water, we're in trouble . so have water, we're in trouble. so you could probably live on water for a little bit of time , but for a little bit of time, but without water you are dead. so i just and it is ultimately it comes from the sky. you could collect your own water and create some sort of salination process something own process or something in your own home the water from the home and take the water from the sky. i find it shocking that sky. so i find it shocking that this isn't the top of the agenda. it should be. >> it should be in every sense of the word. but why haven't the government intervened? why isn't anything being done about this? i mean, is absolutely . i i mean, it is absolutely. i haven't even got words. i'm so appalled of today. it is disgusting. >> nana james, i want to ask you, because you've come from abroad, having had a nice time in another hot country and coming with a tan, looking coming here with a tan, looking at as mealy at us all as we look mealy mouthed the mouthed and ill drinking the water. what is the view? water. yeah what is the view? what is the respect levels

towards this country like abroad? what are they thinking from where you've come from? what country have you come from? >> can you say i've come from saint vincent in eastern saint vincent in the eastern caribbean, was, was on caribbean, and i was, i was on a vincentian radio show on thursday and talking about the state of britain and so on. and for them, it's a very real issue. lots of vincentians live here. it's important for people sending money back and people coming back after they they've retired and the state of britain is not a good advertisement for ourselves. i mean, you can see that. i mean, luckily with my work, i get to travel quite a lot and the britain status has really fallen, as you hear these stories, our infrastructure doesn't work, our public services don't work, and our our rulers are basically laughing at us. i mean, the fact that these water company ceos who are paid over £1 million can take bonuses while what they are doing, i mean, they shouldn't. they they should say if they had any decency, they'd say, i'm forfeiting my pay, because

clearly i've done a very bad job as ceo. well the shareholders don't think so because they're getting don't think so because they're get yeah, exactly. don't think so because they're get and|, exactly. don't think so because they're get and|, exac'why want don't think so because they're get and |, exac'why want to >> and that's why they want to give 2023, £45 million give it up in 2023, £45 million in to poorly working in dividends to poorly working companies. why why are we companies. why why why are we allowing this to happen? we need to stop this and have a strong, independent, robust sort of audh independent, robust sort of audit in place to stop this. we cannot go on. >> i don't even think that. i just, i don't even think but we don't need to do any of these things. we can see that they're robbing blind. they're taking things. we can see that they're robiabsolutelind. they're taking things. we can see that they're robiabsolute proverbial'e taking things. we can see that they're robiabsolute proverbial and king the absolute proverbial and they're poisoning us. and i'm thinking, where is the i mean, for the greater 40? >> and we've got a great opportunity to act because thames water's own shareholders don't want to put in any more money, which is threatening it with collapse. and they say, okay, well, we're going to put up the bills 40. that is the perfect moment for parliament to step in. and in a nationalisation sets nationalisation parliament sets the share price. all of this stuff about we don't have money is nonsense because what you do is nonsense because what you do is government bonds for

is you swap government bonds for the private shares, and the private share price should take into account the debt they've accumulated, the amount they've paid themselves, how they have, damaged the infrastructure and the pollution and the fines that they should they should be getting. so the price that we can this company, which can get this company, which basically function basically doesn't function as a private company, though basically doesn't function as a priv still:ompany, though basically doesn't function as a privstill making, though basically doesn't function as a privstill making some though basically doesn't function as a privstill making some people it's still making some people very rich, would be very low. so we have a real we actually have a real opportunity now, i was reading the newspaper this morning and, and it said, you know, the government wants to get rid of a politically damaging nationalisation. i don't understand it would be understand how it would be politically damaging. not at all. i think i think if the government stepped said , government stepped in and said, right, this isn't working, we're going over. we're not going to take it over. we're not paying going to take it over. we're not paying much. you paying them very much. if you know money, the whole know if any money, the whole canard they always put forward, oh, you know, it's all owned by pension it's own, pension funds. it's our own, it's our pensions. 8.5% of it's our own pensions. 8.5% of the are owned by british it's our own pensions. 8.5% of the funds, owned by british it's our own pensions. 8.5% of the funds, 70% d by british it's our own pensions. 8.5% of the funds, 70% are! british it's our own pensions. 8.5% of the funds, 70% are owned] it's our own pensions. 8.5% of the funds, 70% are owned by pension funds, 70% are owned by overseas shareholders. won't overseas shareholders. it won't hurt us at all to take it. take it forward. and i think the vast majority of people in the public

would the people who would cheer. and the people who lives areas outside of thames lives in areas outside of thames water anglia on and water and anglia and so on and so would same so forth, would demand the same thing to. so forth, would demand the same thirbut to. so forth, would demand the same thirbut we to. so forth, would demand the same thirbut we all to. so forth, would demand the same thirbut we all need to. so forth, would demand the same thirbut we all need and to. so forth, would demand the same thirbut we all need and deserve >> but we all need and deserve unpolluted water. sadly, unpolluted water. and sadly, who's to paying for who's going to be paying for this ? this? >> it's a good well, that's a good question. and then they're expecting us to you're to expecting us to you're going to put up by 40. listen i put the bills up by 40. listen i tell water companies, put the bills up by 40. listen i teyou water companies, put the bills up by 40. listen i teyou go water companies, put the bills up by 40. listen i teyou go and water companies, put the bills up by 40. listen i teyou go and water (andianies, put the bills up by 40. listen i teyou go and water (and it'szs, if you go and do that and it's only england the way, because only england by the way, because in they've had in scotland they've had sense and but they're and in wales. but if they're going that we just going to do that we just won't pay going to do that we just won't pay nobody then pay it. if nobody pays, then you're everyone you're in trouble. if everyone refuses pay i'm not refuses to pay and i'm not suggesting people should suggesting that people should break bottom break the law. but the bottom line need to sort line is this you need to sort out water listen. rishi out the water and listen. rishi sunak watching now, sunak if you're watching now, for god's sake, renationalise the be the water. we're going to be doing debate that in a doing a debate about that in a few so in few moments time, so get in touch. views gb news. com touch. gb views gb news. com now, a thames water spokesperson said any untreated said we regard any untreated discharges as unacceptable, really. we're committed to really. and we're committed to stopping them from being necessary . in what way? with the necessary. in what way? with the assistance of our regulators, storm discharges are closely unked storm discharges are closely linked to rainfall and groundwater conditions, and our region experienced above average rainfall for most of 2023, which

saw an increase in the frequency and duration of the storm discharges from our sites compared to 2022. yeah, this has been going on for years . you're been going on for years. you're with me. i'm nana akua. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. coming up, it's royal roundup time. angela levin will be to give us the will be here to give us the latest behind palace latest from behind the palace walls charles walls on the menu. king charles is make easter is expected to make an easter service tomorrow , but service speech tomorrow, but will miss out on the annual lunch he undergoes his cancer lunch as he undergoes his cancer treatment then though, treatment. then next, though, for british for the great british debate this asking it time this hour, i'm asking is it time to renationalise water? thames water plunged into water is plunged into a financial crisis. bosses are refusing to pay up the 40% hike and they're expecting to put that in our bills. i've got a pull up right now asking you that very question. so what do you think? is it time to renationalise water some your renationalise water some of your thoughts? or tweet renationalise water some of your th0|at1ts? or tweet renationalise water some of your th0|at .s? or tweet

gb news. good afternoon. welcome on board. if you've just tuned in. welcome. this is gb news. i'm nana akua. before the break, though, we were discussing sewage spills reaching record highs. let's have a quick look at you've saying. guy at what you've been saying. guy says thatcher sold the utility companies was a bill companies because it was a bill uk could not afford uk plc could not afford infrastructure, wage bill, pension pot, etc. nationalise them. and how much will that put them. and how much will that put the uk debt up? well, did you hear what james schneider said? he's absolutely right. only a small about made small portion about 8, is made up says up of pensions. simon says regarding the terms are we a third country? it's blowing my mind . i know, third country? it's blowing my mind. i know, i third country? it's blowing my mind . i know, i know, carol says mind. i know, i know, carol says regarding the issue over the rivers being contaminated over sewage spills. the whole of the uk refuse to pay our uk should refuse to pay our water until something is water bills until something is done what done about it. disgrace what nurse is going on. and brian says you're spot on. someone says you're spot on. as someone who industry for who worked in the industry for over in the 70s over 25 years in the 70s onwards, appalled at what over 25 years in the 70s onw happened ppalled at what over 25 years in the 70s onw happened to alled at what over 25 years in the 70s onw happened to thed at what over 25 years in the 70s onwhappened to the industryt over 25 years in the 70s onwhappened to the industry . has happened to the industry. corporate vultures have hijacked

the the the industry. the old semi—public ownership worked well. the people were well qualified and dedicated . it's qualified and dedicated. it's a tragedy. what has happened absolutely is. thank you so much for your thoughts. keep them coming because we'll be discussing it because it's time for british for the great british debate this asking, is it this hour. i'm asking, is it time nationalise water? time to nationalise water? earlier this week, thames water shareholders of plans shareholders backed out of plans to inject 500 million into the embattled utility company, raising the prospect of a government bailout that could end up costing us, the taxpayer, billions. if we're going to pay for it, we might as well own it. if that wasn't bad enough, thames water chief executive has refused to out bill refused to rule out bill increases up to for increases of up to 40% for customers. funding at customers. the funding crisis at thames water has left the company its future company fighting for its future since , and the since last summer, and the latest has led to latest episode has led to speculation it's the speculation that it's on the bnnk speculation that it's on the brink emergency brink of emergency nationalisation. it be nationalisation. so should it be nationalised? to discuss nationalised? well to discuss this lead campaigner of we own it, john bosco . oh, i didn't say it, john bosco. oh, i didn't say that. right. but, john, you'll tell me . former conservative mp tell me. former conservative mp neil parish and senior lecturer in natural sciences at bangor

university, doctor christine dunn. university, doctor christine dunn . john bosco, please, could dunn. john bosco, please, could you give me the correct pronunciation of your name? i apologise and you can go first. john >> it's pronounced johnbosco nwogbo, it's nigerian, and thank you so much, nana for having us here, i would, i would obviously say that , it's high time our say that, it's high time our water is, taken into public ownership . there are a hundred ownership. there are a hundred different reasons why that is the case, but i'll start with two. number one is that we're the only country in the world that lacks the sense to run our water ourselves. in the united kingdom, scotland runs their water in public ownership wells, runs their water through a company that's owned by the welsh government . 90% of welsh government. 90% of countries in the world run their water in public ownership. the second reason is that seven out of ten british voters , including of ten british voters, including a strong majority of the people watching this right now, including a strong majority of conservative voters, want our water in public hands, obviously over the last few days we have

seen why that is the case. we've essentially turned a great british tradition, such as the boat race into, the floor is lava, where if you step into the water in any way, you might contract sepsis and kidney disease. so it's really, really important that we take this opportunity to reverse a kind of a global disgrace and take our water into public ownership. >> absolutely . okay, neil >> absolutely. okay, neil parish, what are your thoughts ? parish, what are your thoughts? >> yeah. nana. i think it's too simple just to take it into pubuc simple just to take it into public ownership, because that will not fix the problem. the thames tunnel, the big sewer under the thames, will fix a lot of the problems with thames water. then spend the water. and then let's spend the money actually on getting it fixed. you know, the sewage outlets, the processing of the sewage. and let's actually do that. actually spending billions on actually nationalising it won't cure it. i think ofcom needs more powers. and i also think the government don't give ofcom any more. yeah, sorry .

ofcom any more. yeah, sorry. ofwat needs more more powers. and also like i said i think the government, if it put money in then it dictates exactly how that money is spent and you see if you look at it historically, the problem is when you've got water nationalised with the health service , education, health service, education, police, defence, you'll find that it will not necessarily be the priority for spending. so i suggest leave it in private hands, but use use the thumbscrews on those companies to actually invest properly, give less money to their shareholders and to their executives, and actually get their ship in in order. and that would be my solution because i think the billions used just to nationalise it won't actually be the money needed to spend to better to spend the money on the infrastructure , leave it in infrastructure, leave it in private hands. but if they can't handle it, then eventually they will be nationalised and by then the companies value will have dropped so not cost the

dropped, so it will not cost the taxpayer so i would taxpayer as much. so i would suggest, put pressure on them , suggest, put pressure on them, but leave it in private hands for the time being. >> but neil, i would argue that they are pretty worthless right now. they ain't worth much and we them to the nth we could find them to the nth degree every they're degree of every penny they're worth then have to pay worth. then we don't have to pay them because they'll be them anything because they'll be begging back, them anything because they'll be beggback back, them anything because they'll be beggback control back, them anything because they'll be beggback control of back, them anything because they'll be beggback control of them.ack, them anything because they'll be beggback control of them. i:k, take back control of them. i think that's the think that's really the way i would do it. or they're going to face class actions face environmental class actions from not because we're not from us, not because we're not happy. they've said happy. and they've also said they won't invest, they won't put money so even though put the money in. so even though we they will, won't. we think they will, they won't. let's christian let's go to doctor christian dunn. >> yeah, i can see both sides of the argument here. >> and to take the argument kind of beyond what neil was saying as well, is that this issue is actually even more complicated as well, is that this issue is actuewe're en more complicated as well, is that this issue is actuewe're tryingre complicated as well, is that this issue is actuewe're tryingre italkilicated as well, is that this issue is actuewe're tryingre italk aboutd than we're trying to talk about here, because the issue is that this companies are very this water companies are very much, you know, at the forefront of problem , without a of this problem, without a doubt, but they are the tip of the iceberg comes to the iceberg when it comes to thisbecause this problem is >> because this problem is actually a societal problem, it's have run whole it's how we have run our whole entire terms

entire landscapes when in terms other industry as well are other other industry as well are polluting, but also our construction industry as well is to blame here. there are so many issues here which is caused this problem. yes, the water companies are a serious part of that and they are most certainly to blame for a significant amount of it. but they are not the only contributors to this. and if we really want to address this problem, we really want to tackle, the water pollution issue in our rivers and our coasts. then this has to go beyond the water companies, and that means even more investment from us as a country into this issue. it's even beyond whether they should be nationalised or whether they should be privatised. the problem is much greater than that, do you think? >> i think it's i just think the problem straightforward problem is quite straightforward in they've they've in my eyes that they've they've wasted they have wasted our money. they have they've given a profitable they've been given a profitable thing because not in debt thing because it was not in debt when it. and they've when they got it. and they've taken of it. taken everything out of it. they've literally taken everything out of it. th anything literally taken everything out of it. th anything have ally taken everything out of it. th anything have not of anything and have not invested . and there's no invested. and there's no guarantee they'll do it again. i think it just to go back think it just needs to go back into thank

into our hands. really. thank you of you so much. lead campaigner of we it, john bosco mbogo ugwu we own it, john bosco mbogo ugwu nwobu . have i got it right? nwobu. have i got it right? nwobu. have i got it right? nwobu i hope so. former conservative mp neil parish, a senior lecturer in natural sciences at bannau university. doctor christine dunn, thank you so much. really good to get your input. that's very good to talk to listen. in to you. well, listen. in response, thames water said i'd like reassure customers like to reassure our customers that this announcement, that despite this announcement, it is business as usual for thames water. our 8000 staff remain working remain committed to working with our partners in the supply chain to provide our services for the benefit of our customers , benefit of our customers, communities and the environment . communities and the environment. well, really, i don't mean to say that i shouldn't be rude because that is their statement. that's what they're but that's what they're saying. but listen, gb listen, what do you think? gb views gb news. tweet me at views gb news. com tweet me at gb don't go the water. gb news. don't go in the water. you're nana akua. you're with me. i'm nana akua. this news. we're live on this is gb news. we're live on tv , online and on digital radio. tv, online and on digital radio. coming we'll continue with coming up, we'll continue with the great british debate this houn the great british debate this hour. and asking, is it time hour. and i'm asking, is it time to renationalise water? you'll hear of panel hear the thoughts of my panel broadcast from columnist lizzie

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the embattled utility company. this, of course, raising the prospect of a government bailout . so they're not going to put the money in, but we the taxpayer, when you hear taxpayer, because when you hear the word government, it means we the word government, it means we the them out the taxpayer will bail them out for billions. actually, that for billions. actually, if that wasn't , the chief wasn't bad enough, the chief executive has refused to rule out bill increases of up to 40% for the customers. so that's us again. not only will they again. so not only will they take money from us through the government coffers, they'll also charge us almost 40% more because rise debts, because of their rise in debts, because of their rise in debts, because taken so because they've taken out so much for their much in terms for their shareholders. crisis shareholders. the funding crisis at thames water has left the company fighting for its future since last summer, and the last episode led speculation episode has led to speculation that brink of that it's on the brink of emergency nationalisation. bring it the great british it on so the great british debate this hour, i'm asking, is it time to renationalise the water? james schneider, i'm going to start with you. you heard what neil parish said, what's your thoughts? i mean, his argument was the definition of throwing good money after bad. >> should we basically just take

back this company which is failing, which is ours , and you failing, which is ours, and you run it in a sensible way where we don't have to pay shareholders, where we invest, where know who's accountable , where we know who's accountable, we know we can we can complain to the government if something we know we can we can complain to going)vernment if something we know we can we can complain to going wrongient if something we know we can we can complain to going wrong .nt if something we know we can we can complain to going wrong . theysomething we know we can we can complain to going wrong . they have:hing we know we can we can complain to going wrong . they have:hirdo is going wrong. they have to do something it we vote something about it or we vote them , and instead his them out, and instead his argument was, well, there'll argument was, well, no, there'll be priorities , you know, be other priorities, you know, maybe people want to give money to else. it's to something else. well, it's not borne by the figures, not borne out by the figures, the investment that the levels of investment that we've had since water was privatised, nearly 35 years ago is lower than it was before hand. and the reason for that is they've been taking on all this debt, £60 billion of debt across the english privatised water companies, and they've paid out £72 billion to shareholders. the whole thing is a racket, and that's what they're trying to do to us. again, with with thames water now putting up our bills again, which has happening again, which has been happening since and making since privatisation and making us to bail them out, us pay to bail them out, we should just take over the company that this the, the idea that the regulator is going to

fix it, the neil parish, the mp said, oh, well, you know, those executives there should be thumbscrews put on them to do something. i mean, does anybody really think that off.what is going develop the going to somehow develop the capacity to make them do anything? i mean, they haven't for you said in your for years. you said in your monologue, quite rightly, that the of their the fines are part of their business model. >> know much know. >> they know how much they know. >> they know how much they know. >> off port >> oh, the in the off port statement that they sent in to your program million. it your program 300 million. it sounds like a lot nothing it sounds like a lot nothing it sounds like a lot nothing it sounds like a lot of money. but when say, they out when you say, oh, they paid out £72 billion to shareholders, that's 72 billion. that's 300 million, 72 billion. and that's how you can see it. >> yeah . >> yeah. >> yeah. >> forget what neil parish said. he looked like he'd been swimming his own river. i swimming in his own river. i don't know what was on eyes. don't know what was on his eyes. sorry. mean, what a sad sorry. well, i mean, what a sad time when we can't time we live in when we can't even, know, our feet in even, you know, put our feet in the water or let you know. my friend's dog ran thames friend's dog ran in the thames and it was poorly. you and it was really poorly. you can't your dog run in can't even let your dog run in the water. what has happened to our ? we have to take it our country? we have to take it back. i'm sorry. they've wasted

our money. they've not invested. they don't care. they don't care. nana. that is the. it's absolute deceit , amicable mess. absolute deceit, amicable mess. and it's. it's a real troubled waters in every sense of the word. it's in a real financial mess. more than 15 billion in debt and its shareholders refusing to deliver a 500 million lifeline. i mean, we're in a big mess now. >> we're in a mess. we're in a very watery mess. and neil parish, yes, i hope your eye gets better. we don't really think in the water. you think you went in the water. you wouldn't be that silly, right? let's panel. that's let's see what? my panel. that's their what are their thoughts. but what are yours? gb news dot yours? gb views on gb news dot com. is nothing yours? gb views on gb news dot com. you is nothing yours? gb views on gb news dot com. you and is nothing yours? gb views on gb news dot com. you and your s nothing yours? gb views on gb news dot com. you and your views.ing without you and your views. let's our great british let's welcome our great british voices, be voices, their opportunity to be on tell us what on the show and tell us what they think about the topics we're should we're discussing. where should we're discussing. where should we to bristol? we go? should we go to bristol? oh can't it. oh yeah, i can't mention it. there's map . there's no map. there's no map. there's no map. no. leigh harris in bristol. what think about this? what do you think about this? >> hi, nana. i can't believe i'm saying this, but i really do sympathise people who think sympathise with people who think it might be time to nationalise the companies and that

the water companies and that their arguments are very convincing. >> but there you know, there is a but we all know it's going to be biblically expensive . be biblically expensive. >> the one thing that we can agree is the thames water agree on is the way thames water is being it is utterly is being run. it is utterly criminal. your excellent monologue nana was spot on. not only a failure of thames only is this a failure of thames water, but the regulators are also blame. you the also to blame. you know the thing that really grinds my gears taking gears is shareholders taking billions out of the water companies over the past two decades and left it with eye—watering debts. as you've just discussed, terrible infrastructure and higher bills for people unfortunate to live in the catchment area and as you said, customers could be facing up to a 40% increase in their bills. and it's not like they can to another company if can go to another company if they're you and they're annoyed. you know, and all while , i think they all this while, i think they paid out £3.7 million worth of bonuses, benefits and incentives to cut company executives, i'm devastated. nana these useless regulators at the and the bosses at thames water are making me sound like a bit of a lefty on this issue. it feels wrong , but

this issue. it feels wrong, but you're not really, are you? >> because the right wing supposedly would not call for nationalisation. sound nationalisation. so we sound like and you sound like the lefties and you sound like the lefties and you sound like a raving loony. thank you very much. fi harrison . i think very much. fi harrison. i think it should be. >> they should let it fail. now you, lee harris, thank very much. >> that's brilliant. lee harris in lots of you in bristol. well, lots of you have been getting touch with have been getting in touch with your i'm your views. margaret says i'm not have problems not surprised we have problems with country. we with water in the country. we have money have spent years spending money to for to help other countries for water right? says water aid too. right? gary says nothing of nothing to do with the rest of the country. let thames the country. let khan, thames water and london for the water and london pay for the issue and david says i'm definitely socialist, but definitely not a socialist, but i time to i believe it's now time to nationalise utility nationalise all utility companies water, gas and electric. . we are electric. i'm with you. we are being ripped off. it's time our politicians, political parties come together and sort it out. i'm you right now though. i'm with you right now though. this is gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. next up we'll be discussing in the great british debate, should we have a migrant crime league table? that's in the next hour. but next, royal biographer angela levin will be live to talk about what's going on behind palace walls. and

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good afternoon. 48 minutes after 4:00. if you've just tuned in. welcome on board. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua , and channel. i'm nana akua, and there's always something going on the household . and on in the royal household. and this week has been no different. each saturday i like give you each saturday i like to give you a rundown. and who better to do so royal biographer angela so than royal biographer angela levin, right? angela, you take me start. me from me through the start. me from the top. there's a lot going on. >> thursday was the >> yes, well, thursday was the maundy and, king charles maundy, event and, king charles was very, very upset. he couldn't make it. he made a speech about how he longed to be there. but camilla did it for him. it's the first time a queen consort has done that, ever so it's quite an important thing.

she did it beautifully. she did it so warmly, giving a 75 men or 75 women, little tiny purses with silver money specially made for it. you know, if they are , for it. you know, if they are, they've worked in the army and certain things, and, they're older and find life difficult. this is a special prayer. and she was chatting away, you know, she was chatting away, you know, she had it's not easy to talk to one person after another for about 2 or 3 minutes, you know. but she was smiling and, she's doing the most brilliant job. if you look back of 30 years when everyone said she was going to ruin the monarchy and it would fall apart, and here she is holding it up, you know, with both hands and working very hard. what we hope is to see king charles tomorrow, that he's the services in windsor. and he hopes to walk down the hill there on, on his own with camilla and then back up

afterwards, which is quite a big thing to do. i think it was a bit dodgy for the palace to say, this is definitely going to be their because, you know, you can wake up feeling really unwell , wake up feeling really unwell, but hopefully he will make it and, it will be a step forward. he can't sit next to everyone, he'll be on his own and, and, he needs to be very careful. i thought the photograph of him talking about the maundy event, he didn't look very well. but then you don't look very well when you're in such a situation. but he's very determined , and i but he's very determined, and i hope that it works very well for him. and he'll be very pleased. it will be a step forward . it will be a step forward. >> and, what about the late duke of edinburgh? the statue in cambridge is going to be knocked down. >> yes. well if you saw the statue, you would. absolutely. it's terrible. it cost £150,000 in bronze statue and it's 14ft high. but he doesn't have a

face. he looks like a ghost. or that a piece of material has run over his face, it was put up without, any agreement in 1914, and they've now 2014. sorry. and they now want to get rid of it because they the council says they've never seen anything. so terrible. >> it's only been up for, what, nine years? not even ten years. it's coming down. >> but the person who made it, he yes, it was me he said yes, it was me originally. and now he says, i don't what you're talking don't know what you're talking about. it. about. i haven't done it. >> think i don't want it ehhen >> he doesn't want any any blame ehhen >> it.�* doesn't want any any blame ehhen >> it. hoesn't want any any blame ehhen >> it. i mean, want any any blame ehhen >> it. i mean, itant any any blame ehhen >> it. i mean, it ist any any blame ehhen >> it. i mean, it is absolutely lame for it. i mean, it is absolutely hideous. know hideous. you would never know who it was. you'd think it was somebody out of a terrible film, like. you know, that's edward like. so you know, that's edward scissorhands or something like that. yes, but he doesn't. he doesn't agree that he did it. but it's a shame, though, and there's no, comment that they will put something in its place, and i think they jolly well should. he'd been , looking after

should. he'd been, looking after cambridge universities for 36 years and spent a lot of time doing that. >> if you're if you're watching on tv, the statue is up. now, if you're listening on radio, it's this white face this ghastly ghostly white face with, which appear to be a graduation hat. and then some robe. the robe, it's in blue and yellow stripes , thick stripes yellow stripes, thick stripes down. it'sjust yellow stripes, thick stripes down. it's just it's just it's creepy. >> it is very creepy. that's it. it's just out of a horror movie. yeah, but why did it go up like that? why did they like that face? they could have changed the face afterwards. >> couldn't they? put a face on it? but the thing is, the guy >> couldn't they? put a face on it? buthez thing is, the guy >> couldn't they? put a face on it? buthe personis, the guy >> couldn't they? put a face on it? buthe person is, thcreated who's the person who created that all knowledge. that has denied all knowledge. >> right, don't >> yes, that's right, i don't blame i don't blame him. actually i don't blame him. actually i don't blame him. >> no, haven't from the >> no, we haven't heard from the dastardly at all a dastardly duo at all for a while. what's going on with harry while. what's going on with harwell, what i think is very >> well, what i think is very strange harry, quite strange about harry, and quite annoying he hasn't tried annoying is that he hasn't tried to to congo to stop the to go to congo to stop the raping and fighting that's going on there. there's >> but there's no indication

that he's. is he aware of it? and is this definitely since 20 charity that it's a charity . charity that it's a charity. >> it's the african parks. and they go over 49.4 million acres. right so it's huge. they go from country to country and the people who are running it and working there are raping people and fighting with them. now, this was in a report. >> this was in an article. i mean, obviously i can't verify that. that's just what has been reported. >> harry was a very involved. he was a director. and then he went on the board . on the board. >> but there's no indication that he's aware of what was going on, though. there's no . going on, though. there's no. >> well, since 2010, he's been aware because he's been on the >> well, since 2010, he's been aware of cause he's been on the >> well, since 2010, he's been aware of management.en on the >> well, since 2010, he's been aware of management. so»n the >> well, since 2010, he's been aware of management. so there's board of management. so there's been complaints about that of what's been going on. but he hasn't done anything that's come out in the press. let's put it that way, and i think that he should it's a responsibility . he. >> so what are you suggesting, that he should detach himself from charity ? from that charity? >> well, he either should detach himself charity he

himself from the charity or he should be trying to make something happen about the aggression on and things. >> we don't know that he's not doing that, though. could doing that, though. he could well be behind the scenes. >> it seems people are still complaining that he's not doing anything so i don't anything to help. so i don't know what he's doing, but it's actually it's nothing that has come into the press. and he would be proud of that if he was doing something. and he made and he sorted it out and he'd be a good man to try and do that, because he's very good with deaung because he's very good with dealing with with those dealing with people, with those sort situations , the other sort of situations, the other thing, he needs to disassociate himself from it swiftly , i himself from it swiftly, i suggest, yes, he should do, suggest, yes, yes, he should do, but have done that but he should have done that a few ago. few years ago. >> and of few years ago. >> and n few years ago. >> and meghan, of course, i find it very difficult that she only had one page that came out again of her new website , which she of her new website, which she hasn't got the staff, and she wants to make , now animal food wants to make, now animal food and stuff, animal food for goodness sake. >> listen, thank you very much. the brilliant angela levin . the brilliant angela levin. still to come, my great british debate. i'm asking, should we have migrant prime league

tables? that's next up, though. my difficult conversation. tables? that's next up, though. my difonrlt conversation. tables? that's next up, though. my difonrlt c> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers. sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello there. welcome to your latest gb. news, weather forecast from the met office. as we go through the rest of this easter weekend, we will see some further sunshine, there is further sunshine, but there is still in the forecast, still some rain in the forecast, all courtesy of areas low all courtesy of areas of low pressure are going to hang pressure which are going to hang around the british isles around across the british isles as through the coming as we go through the coming days. so as we end saturday, for many actually , we will see many actually, we will see clearing skies, but there will be some heavy showers still down towards the south—west of england spread england and they will spread their towards southwest their way towards southwest wales into wales and eventually into northern end northern ireland towards the end of the night. and at the same time misty low cloud will time some misty low cloud will just to spill in from the just begin to spill in from the nonh just begin to spill in from the north but where we do north sea. but where we do see the of the skies, the clearest of the skies, we will a touch frost as we will see a touch of frost as we start day . but we will start easter day. but we will see plenty of sunshine first thing central parts.

thing across many central parts. but misty low cloud will but this misty low cloud will spill further westwards spill its way further westwards as we go through the course of the day. so come the afternoon, many parts of england and wales will see plenty cloud, a few will see plenty of cloud, a few spits of rain. so the spits and spots of rain. so the best of brightness will be best of the brightness will be across and northern across scotland and northern ireland. here continue ireland. but here we'll continue the showers the risk of a few showers temperature wise in the sunshine, reaching around 14 or 15 degrees, and then looking ahead to easter monday. a rather wet picture for many parts of england and wales. some heavy rain in places scotland and northern ireland. dry with some brightness here, but certainly under that rain. not feeling too great. and unfortunately the unsettled conditions do look like they will continue as we head towards the middle of the week. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers, sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> watlington. stay tuned because up next it's this week's difficult conversation. i'll be speaking to a man living with

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good afternoon. it's just coming up to 5:00. this is gb news on tv , online and on digital radio. tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua. and for the next houn i'm nana akua. and for the next hour, me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headlines. right now. this show is all about opinion. mine, theirs. opinion. it's mine, it's theirs. and we'll and of course it's yours. we'll be discussing be debating discussing it at times we will disagree, but no one cancelled . so one will be cancelled. so joining me today is broadcaster and columnist lizzie cundy and also former adviser to jeremy corbyn, james schneider .

also former adviser to jeremy corbyn, james schneider. coming up, my difficult conversation, i'll be speaking to a man who's living with hiv. after enduring years hostility years of bullying and hostility over sexuality, he's over his sexuality, he's utilised his own experience to help . then, for the great help others. then, for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking should we have a migrant crime table the end of crime league table at the end of the my quickfire the hour? it's my quickfire quiz, where i test my panel on some of the other stories that are hitting the headlines. but before we get started, get before we get started, let's get your latest . news. your latest. news. >> now, now, thank you very much indeed. and good evening to you. well, the top story from the gp newsroom today is that the nationalities of migrants who commit could posted on commit crimes could be posted on a league table, with ministers saying it would give the government more power to tighten immigration laws. government more power to tighten immigration laws . a group of immigration laws. a group of tory mps wants to see statistics on every offender convicted in england and wales, published every year. they say the rules will help the home office impose stricter visa and deportation policies for individuals from certain countries. the former

immigration minister, robert jenrick, is behind the plan. speaking exclusively to gb news, he said he wants the public to know what impact arrivals to the uk are having on the country. >> i want the most honest and transparent debate about immigration on legal or illegal, that we can possibly have , and that we can possibly have, and it is wrong that the government or other agencies hide statistics. i have laid an amendment to the upcoming criminal justice bill, which tackles one of these issues, and it says that the government must pubush it says that the government must publish statistics on crimes and sentences by country of origin and by visa and asylum status . i and by visa and asylum status. i think that the public want to know who's coming into our country and what the economic , country and what the economic, the fiscal and the societal impact of immigration is. >> robert jenrick speaking there. well, almost 5000 small boats have crossed the english channel boats have crossed the english channel, so far this year, with border force officials escorting

almost 300 illegal migrants on to dover after intercepting them. today, the home office says their french counterparts are facing growing dangers in their efforts to intervene, as well . french police say they're well. french police say they're experiencing increasing levels of violence and disruption on the northern beaches of france , the northern beaches of france, as the interim dup leader gavin robinson, has told colleagues the party is not about any one individual, saying instead it exists to build a better and stronger northern ireland. it follows the resignation of sir jeffrey donaldson, who's been charged with historical sex offences. the police service of northern ireland has since warned against any speculation on social media, saying anything that leads to the identification of victims is a crime and will be treated as such. it's understood sir jeffrey has told dup officers he will strongly contest the allegations against him . counter—terrorism police him. counter—terrorism police are investigating the stabbing of an exiled, exiled iranian

journalist in southwest london, puriya zarati, who was targeted right outside his home in wimbledon, is said to be in a stable condition after suffering an injury to his leg. the london based television channel iran international says the attack follows tehran's plot to kill two of its presenters in 2022. it's calling for stronger action against the regime. police say they're keeping an open mind regarding any motive . two regarding any motive. two security sources have accused israel of striking a car carrying un observers in southern lebanon . the united southern lebanon. the united nafions southern lebanon. the united nations peacekeeping mission says four people were injured. the israeli military has denied any involvement. meanwhile, further aid drops have been carried out over gaza. the us military says it's conducted 18 such missions this month alone . such missions this month alone. yesterday, we know the uk dropped more than ten tonnes of food and humanitarian supplies , food and humanitarian supplies, including rice, flour, tinned goods and water, all to help

civilians affected by the ongoing conflict . now in the ongoing conflict. now in the netherlands, a hostage situation in a nightclub has ended peacefully. police arrested a man who was wearing a balaclava after he walked out of the venue. witnesses saying he came out with his hands in the air. several people were held in the club, but the authorities confirmed they've all now been released here at home. household budgets are about to be hit with bigger bills. a range of services and products, including broadband and mobile, the tv licence and stamps are all going up from monday. the average annual council tax bill is also increasing by £106, and water and sewerage charges in england and sewerage charges in england and wales are rising by £27 a yeah and wales are rising by £27 a year. it isn't all bad news, though. national insurance is going down, along with energy bills falling to their lowest in two years. both the cambridge men and women have won the historic boat race on the thames. the rowers had to ignore

tradition, though they were warned not to jump into the water after winning their events because of high levels of e.coli detected in the river. they were also advised to cover cuts with waterproof plasters and try to avoid accidentally swallowing river water. the men claim their fifth trophy in six years, while the women cruised to a seventh straight victory . and just straight victory. and just lastly, classic magnum ice creams are being recalled over fears they may contain metal . fears they may contain metal. the manufacturer, unilever, says the precautionary measure follows internal safety checks, products sold in packs of three are being recalled, with a warning linked to five batches, all with a best before date of the 25th of november. the company has apologised and says no other magnum products are affected. that's the news. for the latest stories, do sign up to gb news alerts , scan the qr to gb news alerts, scan the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. common alerts .

news. common alerts. >> thank you paulie, it's just coming up to seven minutes after 5:00. this is gb news on tv onune 5:00. this is gb news on tv online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua coming up, my difficult conversation today. i'll be speaking to a man living with hiv after enduring years of bullying hostility over his bullying and hostility over his sexuality, he now uses his own experience to help others and has become a champion for lgbtq+ rights. then, for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking, should we have a migrant crime league table? the former immigration minister wants statistics showing the nationalities of migrant groups with the highest crime rates to be published annually . be published annually. >> i think that the public want to know who's coming into our country and what the economic. the fiscal and the societal impact of immigration is. >> i thought we had that already. and then in clipped bait , one of already. and then in clipped bait, one of the uk's largest school photo firms apologises to

parents after it offered families the option of class pictures . as ever, you can get pictures. as ever, you can get in touch, email gb views at gbnews.com or tweet me at . gb gbnews.com or tweet me at. gb news. all right, well stay tuned for all of that. that is on the way. but now it's time for this week's difficult conversation. today i'm joined by an hiv survivor. his journey encapsulates resilience and empowerment, enduring the hostile climate of section 28. dufing hostile climate of section 28. during schooling, he faced bullying for his sexuality and yet emerged as an out and proud individual. after successful academic pursuit at oxford university, he embarked on a career in law only to confront a daunting diagnosis of hiv and hepatitis c in 2010. struggling with acceptance amid a demanding career, he eventually found liberation through disclosure to both his employer and his family. i'm pleased to say family. and i'm pleased to say i'm joined in studio by hiv

i'm joined in the studio by hiv survivor . and, survivor phil baldwin. and, phil, thank you so much for joining me. thank you very much for having me here today. >> and you've already touched on some aspects my story. some aspects of my story. >> there . i was diagnosed with >> there. i was diagnosed with hiv when i was 24 years old, over my lunch break from work , over my lunch break from work, and at the time that came as a complete shock. it took me a number of years to come to terms with that diagnosis. >> can i take you back, phil, then to, why you decided to get tested? so we go back, you know, obviously i've covered it briefly, but people would want to know, you know, why did you go have test? not that go in and have a test? not that there's anything with there's anything wrong with doing worried doing that, but were you worried or ? or concerned? >> i first had a sexual health screen when i was 17, and the that must have been, just after

the turn of the millennium . and the turn of the millennium. and the turn of the millennium. and the nurse at the time told me that as a gay or bi man, i should be getting tested every six months. and that was something that i continued . and, something that i continued. and, andifs something that i continued. and, and it's really i cannot encourage people, more to, to get tested because, they're known knowing your status, not just around hiv , but around just around hiv, but around other stis is so important. i was tested for all blood borne viruses and stis in april 2009, and actually tested, negative , and actually tested, negative, then in january 2010, i tested negative for hiv, and then five days later for hepatitis c. >> wow . so days later for hepatitis c. >> wow. so this days later for hepatitis c. >> wow . so this test days later for hepatitis c. >> wow. so this test was just

something that you normally do that you've learned to do since the age of 17. and then you just went in your lunch break, i understand, to do the test, i went to the clinic and within half an hour they had done a, an on the spot test and it had come back positive. >> i was ushered into a side room and the nurse sat me down and told me that i was living with hiv. it actually came as a complete shock to me , i'd just complete shock to me, i'd just started working as a lawyer in the city about five months earlier . it the city about five months earlier. it had been one of the penodsin earlier. it had been one of the periods in my life between april 2009 and january 2010, where i'd actually had very few sexual partners. so i really wasn't

expecting this at all. there's very little that i can remember from that initial conversation with the nurse, except that she told me hiv is no longer a death sentence. i left the esther ghey clinic and fortunately, where i live is very close to the esther ghey clinic . and i just went ghey clinic. and i just went home, lay on my sofa in a foetal position and cried about 45 minutes to an hour later , i minutes to an hour later, i noficed minutes to an hour later, i noticed that my work blackberry was ringing and i realised i had to be back in the office. so i headed back to work . but the headed back to work. but the moment i work, i walked through the doors of my office. i felt i

had to project a facade . i had to project a facade. i didn't feel comfortable telling my, fellow colleagues and it really it took about two, two and a half years before i had the confidence to tell my fellow colleagues and ultimately my parents as well, telling my parents as well, telling my parents was one of the hardest things . and you mentioned things. and you mentioned earlier how i, i, i came out in a hostile environment when i was at school and really telling my parents about my hiv diagnosis. it was like coming out a second time. so the hiv diagnosis, it effectively put me back in the closet. so i'd been in the closet. so i'd been in the closet as a teenager for being gay, and then the hiv diagnosis

effectively put me back in the closet. but this time around, living with hiv . so i had to go living with hiv. so i had to go through that, that entire process. very difficult. yes. >> and how are you faring now? because they've got some incredible drugs these days as the nurse said to you that the hiv really the death hiv is not really the death sentence it was, remember sentence. it was, i can remember the ads, the scariness the tombstone ads, the scariness at the time, i was doing hospital radio and going into the chelsea and westminster, the lord wigram which was the lord wigram ward, which was the hiv ward, and people were just dying. treatment has dying. now the treatment has changed, hasn't it? >> so even since 2010, there have been incredible medical advances. so it was actually in 1996 that they introduced antiretroviral treatments and, those allow, people living with hiv to live a normal lifespan. since 1996, they've been improved dramatically , i now

improved dramatically, i now only take, one pill a day. i have no side effects. and because i'm on effective treatment with an undetectable viral load, it also means that i can't pass the virus on to other people . people. >> fantastic. isn't it? that's really fantastic. that's a real step. and that's literally must have changed your life. so now you spend your time campaigning. tell briefly your tell me briefly about your campaigning . campaigning. >> i campaigned across a whole range of issues. hiv is still one of the issues that i discuss. the most, another incredible development that we've had, is pre—exposure to prophylaxis. so that emerged around 2015, and that's a pill which can be taken daily or on demand and, and by an hiv

negative person. and it means that they , they cannot contract that they, they cannot contract hiv . so that they, they cannot contract hiv. so that's a, that they, they cannot contract hiv . so that's a, a that they, they cannot contract hiv. so that's a, a new development that, that we've had, as well. it was around 2016 that people started talking about undetectable equals untransmittable, that someone living with hiv can't pass the virus on. and for me, that was just such a huge burden lifted from my shoulders , because prior from my shoulders, because prior to that, i had always been really . worried that i might really. worried that i might pass my hiv on to a sexual partner. so that's why testing is so important, because if you get tested, you can get on effective treatment and then you can't pass the virus on. and that's how we're going to end hiv. >> listen, phil, it's really good talk to you. have you good to talk to you. have you got or somewhere where got a twitter or somewhere where people or get in

people can follow you or get in touch? do you have a social media do talk to people media and do you talk to people on social media? >> so it's at phillips baldwyn on twitter, instagram and tiktok. i should have referred to twitter as x. i'm i everyone does it. >> we all call it twitter . phil, >> we all call it twitter. phil, it's really good to talk to you. thank you so much for sharing your incredible story and keep up all great work. up all the great work. >> very much. thank >> thank you very much. thank you, thank you. >> course, is, philip >> that, of course, is, philip baldwin. living with baldwin. he's living with hiv. coming panel, we're coming up now, my panel, we're going in going head to head in the quickfire quiz. but next, it's time the british time for the great british debate i'm asking, debate this out. and i'm asking, should migrant crime should we have a migrant crime league table? you're with me. i'm this is gb news. i'm nana akua. this is gb news. we're online on we're live on tv, online and on digital

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in. welcome on board. i'm nana akua. don't go anywhere. we've got still loads to come on the show. it's just up to 21 show. it's just coming up to 21 minutes after 5:00. this is gb news, and it's time for our great british debate this hour. and i'm asking, should we have migrant crime league tables now? the former minister for immigration minister robert jenrick, statistics jenrick, wants statistics showing the nationalities of migrant groups with the highest rates crime rates to be published annually. now this is what he had to say on gb news yesterday. >> i want the most honest and transparent debate about immigration, legal or illegal, that we can possibly have, and it is wrong that the government or other agencies hide statistics. i have laid an amendment to the upcoming criminal justice bill, which tackles one of these issues, and it says that the government must pubush it says that the government must publish statistics on crimes and sentences by country of origin and by visa and asylum status. i think that the public want to know who's coming into our

country and what the economic, the fiscal and the societal impact of immigration is. >> well, if implemented, these new rules could allow the home office to have stricter visa checks and deportation policies . checks and deportation policies. so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking, should we have migrant crime league this hour, i'm asking, should we have m well, crime league this hour, i'm asking, should we have m well, joining eague this hour, i'm asking, should we have m well, joining meue this hour, i'm asking, should we have mwell, joining meue is tables? well, joining me now is barrister stephen barrister and writer stephen barrett , political commentator barrett, political commentator conor also former conor tomlinson and also former labour aide stella si king. cindy yu. i didn't say that right, but i just guessed it. okay, i'm going to start with you, steve, can we start? stephen can we can we start with this legally? is there is there are any issues to are there any legal issues to this ? this? >> and i want to very clear >> and i want to be very clear about this within the current legal framework, there no legal framework, there is no reason i can see why the government cannot publish this information , even if people want information, even if people want it, under the current freedom of information act, section 13, there's a power that to ask for

payment if it causes an undue expense to the government to release it. and the reason i raise that is i know that gb news offered to pay, and if you offered to pay, well, then it seems perfectly reasonable under the existing legal the current existing legal framework that the government simply information simply releases this information to gb news and you cover the governments. well, all of our costs. but if you if you want to do it, i don't see that there's any legal bar to so do it. i'd also add nana that we are becoming a very infantilised society. and are we truly sitting here discussing whether or not we should be told the truth or lied to ? truth or lied to? >> is that really what we're saying? >> either will be told what's happening or we'll just pretend it isn't. i mean, that's an i mean, it's a personal political position. >> if you want to live in a society which doesn't tell you anything at all and simply pretends everything is rosy, well, that's up you . but i well, that's up to you. but i used to live in a grown up society where people were told the truth, and then we argued

about it. of course we did. that's that's political debate. and i won't engage in what the solutions at solutions are, but we were at least the truth , it does least told the truth, it does strike me that if you wanted to pubush strike me that if you wanted to publish , they should be doing publish, they should be doing that sort of thing anyway. they should anyway . i'm not should know that anyway. i'm not sure helps the sure how that helps with the whole situation. stella whole migrant situation. stella if you could pronounce your surname sandy . surname for me, sandy. >> sandy, get ready to be black. blackfield. nana. now i'm going to tell you what's actually going on there. right there is robert jenrick is trying to suggest is some kind suggest that there is some kind of conspiracy where the government has some data that they're not releasing. really what is going is they're what is going on is they're they're this data what is going on is they're th

backbenches. he's no longer a minister. he has decided that he wants to run, to be leader of the conservative party. so he needs to a meat policy needs to find a red meat policy to show that he's really as right as next best right wing as the next best candidate, and that all along he was supporting all of these things that, in robert jenrick jenrick's opinion, is going to lead the next conservative leadership. but what he's actually suggesting , there is actually suggesting, there is a discrepancy between what he's saying going do and what saying he's going to do and what the amendment actually achieves, which to clarify. once which i have to clarify. once again, this is just an amendment on the criminal justice bill it's not going to it's probably not even going to be so as far as i'm be voted on. so as far as i'm concerned, this is all just tricks. to show that he tricks. tricks to show that he is one thing or another. know what the policy is , is just that what the policy is, is just that they're going to have a league table showing which nationalities have committed the most whatever, which most crimes, or whatever, which is very discriminatory in my opinion , because what you're opinion, because what you're saying is, okay, so if we had a lot of italians last year who committed rapes, then that means that the italians that are going to apply for a visa next year

are more likely to be rapists themselves. so we need to be extra careful when we're considering their visa applications. so this is this this is what he's saying is going to happen. he said. we're going to happen. he said. we're going to happen. he said. we're going to apply more scrutiny to the who have the nationalities where who have committed more crimes in previous years. so you're going to punish basically people because they happen to come from the same place as people who have committed crimes. well okay. >> i mean, that's that is that is a way of looking at it. i see that, but there is a logic to it. but it's slightly illogical as well. connor >> yeah. i'm not sure whether your speaker nana, is your last speaker nana, is dishonest or just perhaps places too faith in the too much faith in the institutions and their ability to report this data , because the to report this data, because the office for national statistics declared not want to declared it does not want to report data on crime committed per ethnicity , because some per ethnicity, because some racists were using this to suggest that all black people are committing crimes. neil o'brien, an mp, put in a request to, i believe it was the department for work and pensions asking for tax contributions by

national origin, they said national origin, and they said we're no longer going to collect this the by the this data by the by the netherlands actually released data little ago. data on this little while ago. >> that immigrants >> and it found that immigrants from china, east asia and europe were net tax contributors. well as whereas immigrants from turkey, the north east, north, middle east and north africa and sub—saharan africa were not tax contributors . so basically, contributors. so basically, they're not going to collect and pubush they're not going to collect and publish this data because it looks bad for the narrative. now, i think a moral now, i think there is a moral duty to publish this data, because we know are because we know there are countries and cultures which do not have the same universal respect for human life that historically christian english culture does. they do not have a sense of fair play or reciprocity. they do not see women and children's well—being as good unto itself. they see it as good unto itself. they see it as instrumental to the pleasure and power of the most violent men in civilisation. and so i think we should record that as recently the danes have done, and say, yes, we should be

discriminatory to people from those cultures to protect the nafive those cultures to protect the native brits and the immigrants who have already peacefully assimilated here. >> well, i think the assumption that discrimination a that discrimination is a bad thing it's used, it's thing every time it's used, it's not actually, we always screen and discriminate in some way. sometimes it can work negatively, it needs negatively, sometimes it needs to be done. stephen, i noticed you're raising your eyebrows or one eyebrow at least. but instead us talking, why ? what instead of us talking, why? what were instead of us talking, why? what werwell, it's important >> well, i think it's important to note that as they are refusing to release this data, saying that it would cost too much to do so . so to pretend much to do so. so to pretend that it can happen is, i think not terribly, helpful. and i'm very conscious of an argument that keeps cropping up in public life, which is to say, first of all, this isn't happening. >> and then to say , oh, and by >> and then to say, oh, and by the way, it's a good thing, which was, i think the experience of listening to, to, to very, no doubt learned to the very, no doubt learned lady, talk . lady, talk. >> we need to be truthful about what is going on and what

decisions we're making in order to make informed decisions. it is your personal political to make informed decisions. it is your pwhetherpolitical to make informed decisions. it is your pwhether you ical to make informed decisions. it is your pwhether you want this opinion, whether you want this data released or not. it's not terribly helpful to tie all that up in a motion and shame. and just a lot of the sort of the infantile approach we've had to these discussions and debates. do we want this data released? >> if not, why not? >> if not, why not? >> if not, why not? >> i mean, racist people breathe oxygen. >> i am not going to stop breathing oxygen because racist people do. >> so we do need to limit guilt by association. i mean, it's got completely out of hand. and, you know, of course racist people will do awful racist things. have we got a plague of racist people at the moment or have we got an awful trouble with crime at the moment? which one have we got a trouble with? which policy do we want to fix? what do we want do to fix it? but want to do to fix it? but ultimately, i think the point i do make is that we are do want to make is that we are not , so we being not infants, so we keep being

treated but i'm treated like infants. but i'm not infant because i'm i'm not an infant because i'm i'm not unarmed. >> armed nana i am armed. >> i am armed nana i am armed. >> i am armed nana i am armed. >> as every adult watching this show is armed with a vote, and it's through voting and democracy that i will use. you know, my political power and will. you don't need to run off to judges . lovely and charming to judges. lovely and charming as they are. you don't need to appeal to some sort of d&d concept off in in the sky. i've got a vote. we've all got a vote. and if we want to do something about this, we should use our political power to do so i >> -- >> thank 5mm >> thank you stephen. right. so i'm going to ask you all then, stella , so do we need should we stella, so do we need should we have table for these have a league table for these margaret league tables? >> no, we shouldn't have a league table, because we league table, because what we know is that generation immigrants. >> yes or no? >> should. sorry >> no. we should. sorry >> no. we should. sorry >> connor. or no, uk is >> connor. yes or no, uk is number one for in the world for crimes committed by people of foreign extraction. we need it. yes, yes. >> and, stephen, do you wish to give a me? not for you. i didn't think so. stephen barrett, lovely to talk to you. he's a

barrister and writer. to connor tomlinson, political commentator and aid labour and former label aid labour aide. do . it's not aide. stella sancta do. it's not right, is it? sunak? you've cindy yu. i thought i'd got it then. thank you so much, alex. >> i'll add it. >> i'll add it. >> well, if you just tuned in. welcome. i thought i did it then i didn't, did i? just coming up to 5:00. i'm to 31 minutes after 5:00. i'm nana live on gp news nana akua. we're live on gp news coming up. we'll continue with the british debate the great british debate this out. should out. and i'm asking, should we have crime have migrant crime league tables? thoughts have migrant crime league taimy? thoughts have migrant crime league taimy panel thoughts have migrant crime league taimy panel, thoughts have migrant crime league taimy panel, broadcaster)ughts have migrant crime league taimy panel, broadcaster andts of my panel, broadcaster and columnist and former columnist and also former adviser corbyn, james adviser to jeremy corbyn, james snyden adviser to jeremy corbyn, james snyder. but first, let's get your latest . news. your latest. news. >> the top stories this hour a league table showing the nationalities of migrants with the highest crime rates has been proposed. a group of tory mps wants to see the statistics published annually for every offender convicted in england and wales. they say the rules will help the office impose will help the home office impose stricter visa deportation stricter visa and deportation

policies countries. policies for certain countries. the former immigration minister, robert jenrick, is behind the plan. speaking exclusively to gb news, he said the public wants to know how arrivals into the uk are impacting the country. >> it is wrong that the government or other agencies hide statistics. i have laid an amendment to the upcoming criminal justice bill, which tackles one of these issues, and it says that the government must pubush it says that the government must publish statistics on crimes and sentencing us by country of origin and by visa and asylum status . status. >> now, almost 5000 migrants have crossed the channel in small boats so far this year, with border force officials taking around 300 people to dover today after intercepting them . the home office says their them. the home office says their french counterparts are now facing growing dangers as they attempt to intervene, with police saying they're experiencing growing levels of violence and disruption on the northern shores of france

following the resignation of sir jeffrey donaldson, the interim dup leader, gavin robinson has told colleagues the party isn't about any one individual, saying instead it exists to build a better and stronger northern ireland. sirjeffrey has better and stronger northern ireland. sir jeffrey has been charged with historical sexual offences. the police in northern ireland have warned against speculation on social media, which may lead to the identification of any of the victims concerned. it's understood sir jeffrey has told dup officers he strenuously contests the allegations against him. those are the latest top stories . if you want more, sign stories. if you want more, sign up to gb news alerts. scan the qr code on the screen right now or go to gb news. common alerts . or go to gb news. common alerts. >> thank you polly. coming up clip bait. i'll be sharing a video which has caught my eye this week, but next we'll continue with the great british debate this hour. and i'm asking, have crime? asking, should we have crime? migrant tables

? good 7 good afternoon. if you just tuned in. where have you been? it's near the end of the show. not a nicey. not a nicey. will be here, though. i'm nana akua. we're live on tv, online and on digital is news, digital radio. this is gb news, right? now for the right? it's time now for the great british debate this hour. and should have and i'm asking, should we have a migrant league the migrant crime league tables? the former immigration minister, robert jenrick, wants statistics showing nationalities showing the nationalities of migrant groups with the highest crime rates to be published annually . he crime rates to be published annually. he spoke to crime rates to be published annually . he spoke to patrick on annually. he spoke to patrick on gb news yesterday. i think that the public want to know who's coming into our country and what the economic, the fiscal and the societal impact of immigration is . well, how's that going to is. well, how's that going to help? just just for goodness sake , if implemented, these new sake, if implemented, these new rules could allow the home office to have stricter visa checks and deportation policies. although that we had

although i thought that we had we were doing that sort of thing anyway. so great british anyway. so the great british debate asking, debate this hour, i'm asking, should migrant crime should we have migrant crime league see league tables? well, let's see what my panel make of that. i'm joined broadcaster joined by broadcaster and columnist lizzie cundy, also former jeremy corbyn, former adviser to jeremy corbyn, james schneider, lizzie cundy i'm going to come to you first. >> we'll talk about the horse bolting after the door bolting after the barn door closes, look , i look, tables closes, look, i look, tables don't stop boats. why are we doing this? >> it's just they can. if you put them in a row, all on top of each other. and then a lie in the sea. >> this is a sticking >> this is just a sticking plaster. time and waste thing. money. and who's going to pay it? the british taxpayer. it? us. the british taxpayer. i'm sorry, nana. it'sjust a waste of time. and how about they do something about stopping they do something about stopping the boats that are the problem? we had only from the highest new record from january to march. i think it's 4644 migrants crossed. how about they concentrate on that? tables don't stop boats. this is just

ludicrous. so you think germany is flexing his muscles, trying to look important and say something which is actually logical? >> so what it is, is here's another boat . italian. yeah. another boat. italian. yeah. it's your number one spanish. how about that? they probably wouldn't come here. >> how about this government . >> how about this government. you they've got five you know they've got five separate set separate policies. they've set out pledges. how about they just do one of proper early do one of them proper early before the next election. and my bet they wouldn't be able do bet they wouldn't be able to do that. >> e schneider no, it's a >> james schneider no, it's a ridiculous gimmick. and, you know, if you wanted to change the immigration system, then you should change the immigration system. if you've got concerns with crime, you should change policies to do with crime. this is meant it's meant to make him look hard, i suppose. but i mean, it really doesn't make you look hard. yeah, we're going to we're going to release some some numbers i suppose you know, numbers and i suppose, you know, i the is what he i suppose the idea is what he wants people to oh no, wants is people to go, oh no, what demonise what that will do will demonise some the people what that will do will demonise somyare the people what that will do will demonise somyare at the people what that will do will demonise somyare at the the people what that will do will demonise somyare at the top, the people what that will do will demonise somyare at the top, the 1e people what that will do will demonise somyare at the top, the honest,.e who are at the top, the honest, law abiding majority, the people

from that nationality will be tarred with that brush and so on and so forth. but i mean, really, shows you how how really, it shows you how how they've just completely fallen apart rather than being able to do anything about of any of do anything about any of any of the oh yeah, i can the issues like, oh yeah, i can put down an amendment. he used to be the immigration minister. >> i mean, well, he wasn't there for long. >> no, but i mean, if he if an and this shows i'm sorry, but he, said in his interview he, he said in his interview which was great on this we which was great on this that we had it on this channel, but that rishi didn't listen to him . rishi didn't listen to him. >> and i think that's what we've got to look at that, that this tory party so divided. and tory party is so divided. and rishi doesn't listen to his own cabinet, doesn't listen to anyone, doesn't listen to the voice of the british people . voice of the british people. he's totally ignorant and he needs to wave that white handkerchief. the game's up. it's over. and i'm sorry. happy easter to the tories, because it's the last easter you're going to have in power. and that's no yolk. you very good, lizzie. >> look , now, i happen to think

>> look, now, i happen to think that robert jenrick could have been a really effective minister had rishi sunak given him the opportunity flex his muscles had rishi sunak given him the opp

migration system. we will do so in a way that's fair. that's in the of the economy, the interests of the economy, society democratic society that has democratic oversight. it's going look oversight. it's going to look like that is like this because that is something that some people will really and some people really like and some people won't at moment, won't like. and at the moment, their people to their aim is for people to basically vote them in without noticing. just be like, we are so exhausted and so fed up with this lot that you get a go by default. well, there's point default. well, there's no point pointing bin, just point pointing at the bin, just point at the water. >> that is a bit the >> exactly. that is a bit the state of this. >> this was supposed to be great britain. we can't put our toe in the water, we've got the biggest migration crisis ever. i mean, what state of this country don't know what to say when i look at this? >> because it's embarrassing. it's. don't look good to the it's. we don't look good to the rest of the world. and, you know, they're worried about embarrassing, know, embarrassing, you know, little things like this. foreign aid. oh, look to the rest oh, how will we look to the rest of world if we stop the of the world if we stop the foreign aid, you're broke. you're money people you're giving money to people in other . how do you other countries. how do you think that looks? >> i know you can't even let your dog go in the thames. i mean, this is the state of our

country. >> did you ever think that we would come in here and all would come in here and we'd all be you? be agreeing with you? >> but but >> no, i didn't, but but but i'm. i'm pleased i'm. i'm. of course i'm pleased that the day has come, and i hope happens again. but hope it happens again. but i think it probably will, because the that i'm generally the things that i'm generally speaking, arguing for, if you just at the ideas you just look at the ideas you remove , who's spoken about them remove, who's spoken about them before, you look at the ideas, the majority of people agree with them because they are basically common and basically common sense, and they're the they're things that the political don't talk about. why do you think is, >> why do you think that is, though? think that though? why do you think that they to be captured by they appear to be captured by something won't something else that they won't listen to the british public? i don't because the don't get it, because the political spectrum is extremely narrow and they are and it it was open when it was corbyn versus johnson. >> then the political spectrum was, was much more open. people had more of a choice what to vote for. now they're trying to offer the smallest possible choice get. so that choice you can get. so that things that almost everybody disagrees with can carry on. so take water. we've been talking about. okay, fine . the tories about. okay, fine. the tories say we want to carry on with

privatised water because, let's spend more money after good spend more bad money after good money. . labour's money. okay, fine. labour's position, you would think you're the an open the opposition. it's an open goal. the opposition. it's an open goal . it doesn't cost anything. goal. it doesn't cost anything. why you and do it and why don't you go and do it and instead , there some leaked instead, there are some leaked emails showing that the privatised executives were privatised water executives were conniving with labour to come up with a policy that would avoid pubuc with a policy that would avoid public ownership. and they're doing that because they don't want to look like jeremy corbyn. well, it's been five years. they should stop trying to not look like corbyn start like jeremy corbyn and start looking like something that people would actually want and want isn't it want to vote for, isn't it a worry that labour are most likely get in by likely going to get in by default, because everyone is so disillusioned by the tories? >> , this says >> well, listen, this says nothing without you your views. >> let's welcome great >> let's welcome our great british their british voices. their opportunity show opportunity to be on the show and what they think and tell us what they think about we're about the topics we're discussing. full discussing. i've got full review. then. brian review. let's do it then. brian in , what do you think, in solihull, what do you think, migrant table? up migrant league table? is it up your what do you think? migrant league table? is it up you no, what do you think? migrant league table? is it up you no, it's, what do you think? migrant league table? is it up you no, it's, it'sat do you think? migrant league table? is it up you no, it's, it's a do you think? migrant league table? is it up you no, it's, it's a diversion.ink? >> no, it's, it's a diversion. nana, i'm in agreement with lizzie. whole agreement. and james as well, too, i think, so ,

james as well, too, i think, so, it's a it's a crude diversion. we've we've grown accustomed to the smokescreen politics of this , tory government, this failed tory government . and this is tory government. and this is just yet another this doesn't address anything in terms of, with the prime minister has said that, that his stop the boats policy is working and yet the data says completely the opposite, they've run out of ideas. and robert jenrick had a chance as immigration minister to bring this in. if that was what he wanted to do, then of course he didn't do so. they've run out of ideas and this is just another. >> but it wasn't really his fault that, be honest, fault that, let's be honest, he couldn't anything fault that, let's be honest, he coulirishi. anything fault that, let's be honest, he coulirishi. jonathan nything fault that, let's be honest, he coulirishi. jonathan nythini've past rishi. jonathan jones i've just this cup . just got to borrow this cup. jonathan in cornwall. jonathan jones in cornwall. yeah, a new type moeen yeah, he's got a new type moeen ali. you should never be seen on tv. jonathan. >> fully in in agreement tv. jonathan. >> the ully in in agreement tv. jonathan. >> the league n agreement tv. jonathan. >> the league tables. ment with the league tables. >> disagreeing with your >> i'm disagreeing with your panel >> i'm disagreeing with your panel, unusually, because i think more transparency is good and the danish have done the right thing. we want to know where these criminals are coming

from, and think would be from, and i think we would be more wise in who we let in if we knew was committing these knew who was committing these crimes. it's a jolly crimes. i think it's a jolly good idea. >> jonathan, >> but, jonathan, you might say that. >> but, jonathan, you might say that . you might that. but that. you might say that. but once they're in. once they're in, they're in. even know where they're even if we know where they're from criminals, we from and their criminals, we still don't do anything with from and their criminals, we still onion't do anything with from and their criminals, we still on thet do anything with from and their criminals, we still on the ones|nything with from and their criminals, we still on the ones thating with them on the ones that have already come in. >> nana. yeah, they're committing aren't they? >> e“ eg- w of them, not all >> well, some of them, not all of i hear david, of them. but i hear you, david, in watford i well, i love about the current politicians of all things they're pandering to the lowest possible denominator. >> if they do have this table great. >> they can't stop the people coming in the first place. >> so what are they going to do? >> so what are they going to do? >> wave a of paper and say >> wave a bit of paper and say out? is it going to pander to out? or is it going to pander to the right? the vile far right? who will start mobbing anyone that start lynch mobbing anyone that they think is guilty? this is stupid . and i couldn't vote for stupid. and i couldn't vote for any government who have this as any government who have this as a policy. it's wrong in the 21st century that we start pandering to this stupid minority. >> yeah, it does seem a bit

silly, jackie. jackie has an open. >> hiya. yes, i think that whilst it's an unpalatable, unpalatable truth and it is an interesting idea, they can't seem to get very far forward with any of the other ideas they've had. and i agree with lizzie and james. >> we waste the money need to >> we waste the money we need to actually tackle the problem at source, which there seem actually tackle the problem at so be a, which there seem actually tackle the problem at so be the 1ich there seem actually tackle the problem at so be the appetite; seem actually tackle the problem at so be the appetite or seem actually tackle the problem at so be the appetite or the seem to be the appetite or the wherewithal to do it. >> i mean, i had a look at some statistics. >> the eu in january 23 had 27.3 million non eu migrants. >> now . >> now. >> now. >> and i think that it we need to actually vet everybody more stringently. >> we need to be much . stringently. >> we need to be much. i'm going to have to cut that slightly short because your audio is a bit it's a bit dodgy. it's got a bit it's a bit dodgy. it's got a bit wavy. but thank you so much for your thoughts . thank you to for your thoughts. thank you to david balm in watford, jonathan jones doogan david balm in watford, jonathan jorsolihull doogan david balm in watford, jonathan jorsolihull and doogan david balm in watford, jonathan jorsolihull and jackie doogan david balm in watford, jonathan jorsolihull and jackie samsonan in solihull and jackie samson in saint you . great saint albans. thank you. great to hear voices. next it's to hear your voices. next it's my go my quick pop quiz. don't go

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good afternoon. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua just coming up to 51 minutes after 5:00. it's time for my quick fire quiz . the part for my quick fire quiz. the part of the show where i test my panel on some of the other topics. hitting headlines topics. hitting the headlines right former right now. joining me, former adviser corbyn, james adviser to jeremy corbyn, james schneider, buzzer please. schneider, your buzzer please. james and broadcaster and james mm.hmm and broadcaster and columnist lizzie cundy. your buzzer write and please buzzer please write and please play buzzer please write and please play along at home. question one which city in the country put up a ramadan light display? was it a ramadan light display? was it a birmingham b london or c manchester? that's difficult to say, lizzie cundy b london. was it lizzie. yeah. was it london. london the answer is b it was london. very good. well done lizzie. very good. all right. question carlos sainz wins. question two carlos sainz wins. oh look over there. according to a new survey, what percentage of people were satisfied with the

nhs ? nhs? >> james 21, 25 2125. >> james 21, 25 2125. >> the answer is 25. lizzie cundy spot on the nose. wow, she never does that right. question three. question three which former secretary of state claimed she was sexy at 66? oh come on 66. >> oh, i've got so they are 66 now. yeah. >> and she's sexy at 66. press the buzzer. say something. come on. i just press the buzzer, yes i >> -- >> amber rudd, but she's not 66. >> amber rudd, but she's not 66. >> no she isn't. that's totally wrong i don't know, i really don't. god i'll give you a clue. and then the one who gets it, she writes books , but she's not she writes books, but she's not 66, are we, doris day? doris. doris, i'm gonna have to take that answer from . that answer from. >> don't press the buzzer. oh it was indeed nadine. >> doris who said soft fair. she

did. well, you know, sometimes life isn't fair. true or false? the floating piece of wood that kept kate winslet's rose alive in the titanic was sold for £200,000. 0h, i'll give in the titanic was sold for £200,000. oh, i'll give you james. true. it's true, it is true, it's true. let's see. the answer is. the answer is the answer is. the answer is the answer equals nothing. the answer equals nothing. the answer is. >> it's got to be true. we'll give. >> it is true. i don't know. i didn't know whether it's true or false. yes, it's false actually, it's totally false. both it's totally false. you're both completely listen it's completely wrong. listen it's £500,000. listen. >> £500,000. yes. >> that's right. >> that's right. >> world's gone mad. >> world's gone mad. >> no, but at least listen, if you were in the thames now, you'd be paying that to stay afloat. make the answers 569,000 739,000. so the answer is false. it was false? yes. so why didn't one of you say false along with you? don't ever do that again when it's 5050. everyone knows that, think it's that, right? and i think it's your question . ceo of your final question. the ceo of wetherspoons, tim martin,

suggested i could do. which suggested that i could do. which of the following pub jobs was it a pour pints b identify under age drinkers or c c who had too many was tricky. i think it was lizzie cundy. b, what did you think b would identify underage drinkers? >> what do you think? that's what i was going to say. but i can't say the same one. >> so c you're going to say c you know if you've had too many the is a how was i gonna the answer is a how was i gonna pull. how is i gonna pull a pint. robot is al a robotic pint? >> pourer can i say wetherspoons? my favourite pub. it's the only pub, well, it should keep people behind the bar. >> it's nice to say hello to someone and i'm quite happy with you. want. want a robot dnnk? >> i'm quite happy with a robot. as long as they play some music in those for god's sake. in those pubs, for god's sake. well, today's show , well, listen, on today's show, i've been asking, is it time to nationalise water? according to our twitter poll, 80.4% of you said yes. see, sensible public.

19.6% of you say no. i also asked , should we have migrant asked, should we have migrant crime league tables? 93.1% of you said yes. only 6.9% of you said no. wow, i'd have gone the other way. thank you so much to my panel, broadcaster and columnist lizzie cundy. lizzie cundy, thank you so much. and also to former adviser to jeremy corbyn, james schneider for joining me today. thank so joining me today. thank you so much, you. and much, james. thank you. and a huge to you at huge thank you to you at home for company. i'll back for your company. i'll be back tomorrow. time, place . tomorrow. same time, same place. i'll see you there. the saturday five is up next and at nine it's mark dolan tonight right ? mark dolan tonight right? >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of whether on gb news. >> hello there. welcome to your latest gb news weather forecast from the met office. as we go through the rest of this easter weekend, we will see some further sunshine , but there is further sunshine, but there is still some rain in the forecast, all courtesy of areas of low pressure which are to pressure which are going to hang around the british isles

around across the british isles as we go through the coming days. so as we end saturday, for many actually, we will see clearing but there will clearing skies, but there will be some heavy showers still down towards of towards the south—west of england, and they will spread their southwest their way towards southwest wales into wales and eventually into northern ireland towards the end of at same of the night, and at the same time some misty low cloud will just in from the just begin to spill in from the north sea. but where we do see the of the skies, we the clearest of the skies, we will see touch frost as we will see a touch of frost as we start day. but we will will see a touch of frost as we starplenty day. but we will will see a touch of frost as we starplenty of ay. but we will will see a touch of frost as we starplenty of sunshine; will will see a touch of frost as we starplenty of sunshine firstl see plenty of sunshine first thing central parts. see plenty of sunshine first thinthis central parts. see plenty of sunshine first thinthis misty central parts. see plenty of sunshine first thinthis misty low central parts. see plenty of sunshine first thinthis misty low cloudl parts. see plenty of sunshine first thinthis misty low cloud willts. but this misty low cloud will spill its way further westward as we go through the course of the day. so come the afternoon, many parts of england and wales will see plenty of cloud. a few spits and spots of rain, so the best the brightness will be best of the brightness will be across and northern across scotland and northern ireland. here we'll continue across scotland and northern irelyrisk here we'll continue across scotland and northern irelyrisk of here we'll continue across scotland and northern irelyrisk of a here we'll continue across scotland and northern irelyrisk of a few we'll continue across scotland and northern irelyrisk of a few showers ntinue the risk of a few showers temperature wise in the sunshine, reaching around 14 or 15 degrees, and then looking ahead to easter monday. 15 degrees, and then looking ahead to easter monday . a rather ahead to easter monday. a rather wet picture for many parts of england and wales. some heavy rain in places scotland and

northern ireland. dry with some brightness here, but certainly under that rain. not feeling too great. and unfortunately the unsettled do look unsettled conditions do look like they will continue as we head towards the middle the head towards the middle of the week. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers , sponsors of boxt boilers, sponsors of weather on

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>> i think it's now time that parents pay the price for their unruly kids. >> and we need to get rid of the dickensian housing system the tories are defending. it's 6 pm. and this is the saturday five. welcome to the saturday five. we have a three hour easter extravaganza for you this evening. and on the day of the historic oxford v cambridge boat race, i'm joined on board the good ship saturday five by a very safe pair of hands in the shape of first mate albie amankona. charlie rowley is a former tory adviser, so he should know what to do with himself on a sinking ship . and himself on a sinking ship. and brilliant comedian diane spencer will keep us laughing all the way into harbour. as for benjamin butterworth, let's hope it's a case of man overboard