news. >> it's 9:00. this is mark dolan tonight on gb news with me. stephen allen, in my big opinion , there's a problem in this country, and it smells like. you know what.7 because it is. you know what.7 because it is. you know what.7 because it is. you know what.7 and our waterways are absolutely . in the absolutely full of it. in the big story, as the home secretary, cleverly warns secretary, james cleverly warns against allowing asylum seekers to exploit system. and with to exploit the system. and with churches empty this easter, as britain lost faith with the church. plus, as the met police tells a jewish woman at a palestine march that the displays of a swastika need to be taken into context . it's the be taken into context. it's the met police, fit for purpose and in my take, at ten, at a time

when the country seems to be full of protests, is now this the new normal .7 two hours of big the new normal? two hours of big opinion, big debate and big entertainment, and i'll see you after the news with tatiana sanchez. >> steve. thank you. the top stories this hour. king charles has made his first significant pubuc has made his first significant public appearance since his cancer diagnosis. joined by the queen, he smiled and waved as he left an easter sunday service at saint george's chapel in windsor and went on to greet crowds. a member of the public told the king to keep going strong, and others said he looked well. the prince and princess of wales missed the service as catherine continues her cancer treatment . continues her cancer treatment. meanwhile, the archbishop of canterbury has wished the king and princess of wales well dunng and princess of wales well during his easter sermon at

canterbury cathedral, justin welby encouraged the congregation to pray for charles and catherine and praised their dignity as they both undergo treatment for cancer . dignity as they both undergo treatment for cancer. in his easter message, the prime minister paid tribute to the work of churches and christian communities across the country. >> happy easter everyone! this weekend, as people come together to celebrate and reflect on the message at the heart of the easter festival, i want to pay tribute to the incredible work of christians in this country the churches, charities, volunteers and fundraisers who live the christian values of compassion, charity and self—sacrifice, supporting those in need and demonstrating what it means to love thy neighbour. >> thousands of people turned out to see pope francis preside over easter mass at the vatican. the pontiff delivered his urbi et orbi blessing from the balcony of saint peter's basilica. pope francis, who's been dealing with health problems in recent weeks, used

his address to renew his call for an immediate ceasefire in gaza, along with the release of all israeli hostages . meanwhile, all israeli hostages. meanwhile, israel's prime minister says more than 200 gunmen have been killed by his country's forces at a hospital in northern gaza. another hospital further south was also targeted by an airstrike. several tents on the grounds of the al shifa were hit, reportedly killing four people and injuring others, including journalists . the including journalists. the israeli military says it was focusing on a terrorist command centre in the precise hit, designed to minimise civilian casualties . designed to minimise civilian casualties. benjamin netanyahu also declared there would be no victory over hamas without a rafah operation , and almost 400 rafah operation, and almost 400 migrants crossed the english channel today as weather conditions continue to deteriorate over both days . this deteriorate over both days. this weekend, border force officials intercepted 16 small boats carrying 735 people. it takes the total number of those who've arrived illegally to more than

5400 this year. that's a third higher than the figure recorded this time last year. for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. com slash alerts. now back to . steve. to. steve. >> welcome to mark dolan tonight on gb news with me , steven on gb news with me, steven allen. in my big opinion, there's a problem in this country and it smells like you know what? because it is. you know what? because it is. you know what? because it is. you know what? and our waterways are absolutely of it. the absolutely full of it. in the big , as home secretary big story, as home secretary james cleverly warns against allowing seekers to allowing asylum seekers to exploit the system. and with churches empty, this easter, as britain lost faith with the church as the met police tells a jewish woman at a palestine march that displays of the swastika need to be taken into context . is the met police fit context. is the met police fit for purpose? it might take at ten at a time when the country is full of protests . is now this is full of protests. is now this

the new normal? plus are the tories and reform at war? i'll be asking tonight's newsmaker, a former conservative minister and now reform supporter, ann widdecombe. we've got tomorrow's front pages at 1030, with three top pundits who haven't been told what to say and who don't follow the script. i don't know why bother writing one why we bother writing one tonight. sevilla curci, wayne sleep and joseph david are here. plus the orkney shop owner who mistakenly ordered more eggs than his entire island's population, has been raffling them off for charity. he will exclusively reveal the winner of that raffle later in this hour . that raffle later in this hour. a big two hours to come. we start with my big opinion. we've got a problem in this country and it smells like, you know what? because it is. you know what? because it is. you know what? it's all throughout our waterways. they're absolutely full it . you'd think in the full of it. you'd think in the sixth richest nation you could manage basic sanitation, but in 2024, in the uk you'd be wrong.

and it's so bad that this weekend's boat race was affected by the amount of e coli in the thames. what you're thames. i know what you're thinking. when will these kids who to oxford and cambridge who go to oxford and cambridge university to get a break in life? it an life? but it is an embarrassment. we can't hold an event now. the event on our rivers now. the rowers safety advice rowers were given safety advice before the race that they should avoid any splashed water avoid getting any splashed water in their mouths during a rowing race. you might as well tell them to try not to rush. leonard jenkins of the oxford men's team, said it would a team, said it would be a lot nicer if there wasn't as much poo in the water. how terrible that that needs to be said. the only time that would be is only time that would be worse is if read in if you read that in a tripadvisor review cafe on tripadvisor review of a cafe on wednesday. environment agency figures revealed raw sewage spills doubled last year in england to 3.6 million hours of spills, compared with 1.7 5,000,000 hours in 2022. i was shocked that it happened so much. we have to measure poos by the hour . to much. we have to measure poos by the hour. to put much. we have to measure poos by the hour . to put that much. we have to measure poos by the hour. to put that in context, that you might understand an hour of poo is

about 30 trips for a woman and about 30 trips for a woman and about two for a man. this is because our water systems get overwhelmed when they get a lot of have you met the of rain. hello, have you met the uk before? rain is pretty much our thing . sewage is spilled our thing. sewage is spilled into the waterways to prevent them. system backing up. in them. the system backing up. in a statement issued before the race, thames water said we have experienced higher than average long term rainfall across london. yeah, how can you have higher than average long term rainfall ? if it's long term, it rainfall? if it's long term, it increases the average. do the maths, step up and learn to cope with it. water companies have two jobs. well, they've got loads keep loads of jobs. they keep releasing our rivers. loads of jobs. they keep rele they've our rivers. loads of jobs. they keep rele they've got our rivers. loads of jobs. they keep rele they've got two our rivers. loads of jobs. they keep rele they've got two main vers. but they've got two main functions want them to functions that we want them to provide. they should give us clean, water. remember clean, drinkable water. remember that when in a few months time, we're from higher than we're going from higher than average long term rainfall to hosepipe , water firms in hosepipe bans, water firms in england and wales lost 1,000,000,000,000l via leaky pipes in 2021. that's more than three and a half. lake windermere's wasted. yet you'll be told you can't water your

rhododendron . the other role rhododendron. the other role that we need them to provide is to waste away and keep to take our waste away and keep it away. and that's not what's happening. you're a wild happening. if you're a wild swimmer, there's a chance swimmer, there's a good chance you'll with your you'll be reunited with your waste. if you go for an open mouth swim. what can we do if the companies continue to mouth swim. what can we do if the basicallypanies continue to mouth swim. what can we do if the basically nothing. ntinue to mouth swim. what can we do if the basically nothing. itinue to mouth swim. what can we do if the basically nothing. i mean,) fail? basically nothing. i mean, i'd say we could find them, but that'll just be added to our water bills that we pay. it will that'll just be added to our wa'paying; that we pay. it will that'll just be added to our wa'paying more we pay. it will that'll just be added to our wa'paying more for pay. it will that'll just be added to our wa'paying more for the. it will that'll just be added to our wa'paying more for the pleasure be paying more for the pleasure of swimming our poops, of swimming with our own poops, and their profits and it won't hit their profits in 20 2223. england's water firms made £1.7 billion in pre—tax profits , up 82% since pre—tax profits, up 82% since 2018, all to uk, the industry trade body says bills would increase by 6% on average for the next financial year. that's more than the current 4% rate of inflation. you know what i'd accuse them of taking. but they're not, are they? and they're not, are they? and they're out into the they're letting it out into the rivers boat racers rivers for the boat racers to dnnk rivers for the boat racers to drink would help if we drink it. it would help if we could have a nuanced debate about . you don't about privatisation. you don't have to always love it or always hate it. so a publicly owned

british telecom was way too slow and bureaucratic. and needlessly bureaucratic. you'd take months to apply for a second phone to be installed in your home. privatisation your own home. but privatisation only works when you can bring in competition. i don't like my competition. if i don't like my local water company, my only opfion buy local water company, my only option buy lots of bottled option is to buy lots of bottled water and wash my clothes in the local river. and i'm not going near thing. full of near that thing. it's full of poops. private company poops. having a private company in charge of local monopoly in charge of a local monopoly will they'll will always mean they'll prioritise over prioritise profits over reinvestment to keep the system running. you have any running. if you have any solutions, i would say you should float them by me. but we've enough we've got enough of that happening . so what do happening already. so what do you think? vaiews@gbnews.com and i'll get your emails shortly . first, let's hear from tonight's top pundits comedian and broadcaster sir gilles kirsch, wayne sleep joins us, dance and performer and yosef david, political commentator. join me to go through some of these stories. but let's talk

water. first of all, good to see you all. by the way, let's start sevilla would you fancy going for knowing we know? no , no, i'm actually >> no, no, i'm actually terrified. i think that's that's just horrible. who knew poo had made so much money for people other people? >> well, i mean, there are certain i don't certain websites, but i don't think talking think that's what you're talking about. but yeah, they're making money and they're not reinvesting . and it's all reinvesting it. and it's all very being ripped very well being ripped off in some know , some areas. but you know, water's kind of essential. wayne, drink. water's kind of essential. wajwell, drink. water's kind of essential. wajwell, i drink. water's kind of essential. wajwell, i don't drink. water's kind of essential. wajwell, i don't drink drink. water's kind of essential. wajwell, i don't drink thamesik. >> well, i don't drink thames water, do have a contract water, but i do have a contract with coming through with thames water coming through the tap. right. but i live right on the water. and i was told about five years ago when we moved there that it's getting cleaner. there are fish now right inland where i am. there was a seal. it was swimming along and i phoned them to say, you've got to turn it round. the ocean's that way and not this way . and they said, oh no, it way. and they said, oh no, it just goes to prove mr sleep that the waterways are getting so clean now it can find fish to eat up here. two days later it was dead on the beach, so i'm

not surprised. i wonder as well, though, if these houseboats, you know, have some thing. you know that houseboat poo. well, well, no , i'm not had horse poo poo. no, i'm not had horse poo poo. i'm not 30,000,000 hours. but i know what i'm not know . what know what i'm not know. what i was saying was not that they're doing i was worried about doing it. i was worried about you know, that must it you know, that they must see it much why were we much more. i mean, why were we only warned yesterday or whenever the boat racers . by the whenever the boat racers. by the way, if you want to test for e.coli boys in the canoes, i'm quite willing , you know, because quite willing, you know, because i'm free at the moment. >> you can just nip down there with a little. >> give them a test. yes. no. well, my name is wayne, so could i end up like a coxwain, couldn't was my joke for couldn't i? that was my joke for the evening. couldn't i? that was my joke for the sorry.�*|g. >> sorry. >> sorry. >> could worse than >> i could have gone worse than it halfway through >> i could have gone worse than it that. halfway through was that. >> where's taking >> where's he taking me? >> where's he taking me? >> have the >> i could have gone the other way. >> appalling, g-i >> it's appalling, isn't it? yeah, it's appalling. yeah, yeah. it's appalling. >> money it. >> we pay good money for it. we're 6% more. we're about to pay 6% more. >> disgrace. >> it's a national disgrace. actually goodness, >> it's a national disgrace. actually of goodness, >> it's a national disgrace. actually of boatgoodness, >> it's a national disgrace. actually of boatgoodnit's because of the boat race, it's getting that it getting the attention that it very much deserves, our water companies have been deliberately

pumping millions of hours worth of sewage into our waterways, and it you run the risk of sepsis or e.coli if you come into contact with it. and i'm for all privatisation if it's done properly. the idea of privatisation is that you get competition and the prices go down and that the quality of the service goes up. and in actual fact, what we've got is monopolies and it's the exact opposite. to say, as a opposite. i have to say, as a conservative, this strikes me as deeply immoral . we're spending deeply immoral. we're spending billions on pounds of pounds on green and converting to green levies and converting to gas pumps and heat pumps instead of actually dealing with a fundamental issue . sewage fundamental issue. sewage sanitation is the bedrock of a developed country , so we should developed country, so we should at least be able to expect to dnnk at least be able to expect to drink the water and to be able to go into the water. >> but with the that we have >> but with the way that we have the set up the the situation set up at the moment, suddenly some moment, if we suddenly took some of started of that green money and started to fixing system, of that green money and started to we fixing system, of that green money and started to we still xing system, of that green money and started to we still run| system, of that green money and started to we still run the system, of that green money and started to we still run the sys ofn, don't we still run the risk of that money just being absorbed by the companies, the private companies whether

companies that own it, whether they deliver getting they deliver on getting the stuff in the stuff fixed now or not in the future, not, because future, they might not, because if those if you're focused on those dividends, making dividends, rather than making the , you're the pipes not leak, you're always going to have this problem. >> understand it, the >> as i understand it, the current believe current system, which i believe has main has been allowed by both main parties, that we, the parties, means that we, the consumer, underwrite any debt, particularly for thames water. so should they go bust? and they might. we'll be paying again. so should they go bust? and they might. we'll be paying again . so might. we'll be paying again. so there any, reason there isn't really any, reason for them to improve on their work. because if everything goes wrong , we have to stump up the wrong, we have to stump up the money again. >> so it leaves a bitter taste in the and obviously, in the mouth. and obviously, i mean situation and the mean both the situation and the water. never tried it myself, but probably won't. >> don't, only drink >> i only don't, i only drink mineral because mineral water. so because i don't water anyway . don't trust tap water anyway. but i mean now we've had this situation. it's interesting that you're , oh, you know, you're saying, oh, you know, under the conservative you're a conservative because think conservative because i think it is them. mean brexit? is down to them. i mean brexit? why parties? why is it both parties? >> i'm sure brexit is blamed for everything. i'll tell you why. >> gordon . >> because gordon. >> because gordon. >> might be >> gordon brown, you might be able tories able to say that the tories haven't changed the system, but gordon brown knew was gordon brown knew what he was

doing when , when thames water doing when, when thames water was and when people was plundered and when people were allowed to take out the amount of money that they have been. so been.so >> been.so »- been.so >> the conservatives >> so, yes, the conservatives have because have these big reports because we sea, not too long we had the sea, not too long ago, i thought it was just a method just to get rid of, like the stopping from coming the boats stopping from coming oven the boats stopping from coming over, just sending out poop out into the sea. i thought that was some weird sort of, you know, maybe rwanda wasn't working and that to stop the that was the way to stop the boat. have this under boat. but we have had this under the tory watch. i also blame the tory watch. and i also blame brexit. things got brexit. i think things have got worse . nobody worse progressively. nobody cares after cares about anything after brexit. easy brexit. this is a very easy thing . i do blame very easy thing. i do blame very easy thing. i do blame very easy thing to blame. thing. i do blame very easy thirwell blame. thing. i do blame very easy thirwell you ne. thing. i do blame very easy thirwell you would because. >> well you would because. because support because you don't support the conservatives. but it's not support anyone right now. >> what about the wider picture of the, the trend of privatisation? i remember it, you know, in the 80s it was a cool word. people were thinking , cool word. people were thinking, this is the way to improve a system. and you can, as you say , system. and you can, as you say, you can improve a system when done if there is done properly. but if there is no competition, then why? why privatise things we

privatise the things that we should to spot should have been able to spot this coming. the same is half true trains as true about the trains as well. i suppose , whereas i think british suppose, whereas i think british telecom bad telecom was famously such a bad institution, such a slow way of having, you know, wouldn't be having, you know, we wouldn't be having, you know, we wouldn't be having iphones right now if we still had that, wayne, just to put all the pressure on you. yeah. how do we fix this ? yeah. how do we fix this? >> well, wahaca they were >> well, but wahaca they were going the national going to privatise the national health, weren't they? they were going to it to america , to going to sell it to america, to an owner over there. but i find that time i go to the that every time i go to the national health, unfortunately, the getting longer . the queues are getting longer. it's five hours extra. but now they've decided to keep the national health because covid came in and we've just reversed the policy because how well we did for that to come in and sort of, you know, try and find out how the national health was run and it got ten out of ten, didn't it ? so and it got ten out of ten, didn't it? so do we need, you know, a virus every so often to remind us how good the national health service is? if you need a virus, there's loads in the thames. >> yeah, this is true. of >> yeah, this is true. drink of that. >> yeah, this is true. drink of that . i'll you yes. that. i'll sort you out. yes. >> your ideas for

>> and so, julie, your ideas for a fix your renationalised kind of person i am. >> yeah , of course i am. yeah. >> yeah, of course i am. yeah. i just, i just think that people aren't invested in, in the product or the, or what they're offering. happening is offering. what's happening is that nobody cares. it's about profits. putting profits. so they're putting profits. so they're putting profits before people. and ultimately consumer ultimately it's the consumer that suffers. it's the everyday person that suffers. yeah. but, yeah, mean , we are we are yeah, i mean, we are we are sitting in a pile of it. aren't we there is an elephant we really there is an elephant in the room that that i don't believe but me will mention. >> we have a surging population and we have rampant development. so there are areas that were designed for a small population and now have high rises and this relentless development. so of course there's going to be overflows rains . so, so overflows when it rains. so, so yes, have to talk about yes, we have to talk about privatisation , but also the fact privatisation, but also the fact that our population is exploding and hasn't and our infrastructure hasn't been the funding hasn't been diverted to actually make it possible to support the population that we have, whether or not our population should be growing as fast it is. growing as fast as it is. i personally think no, but that's what think might

what people think it might be. >> immigrants fault >> all the immigrants fault then. oh, the fact that that's where going with this. where we're going with this. >> have a receding >> well, we have a receding population, but somehow blame it. >> i'm going to blame the tories. and you're blaming the i'm not blaming immigrants. >> i'm saying that an >> i'm saying that we have an exploding population and the infrastructure up. >> but just break it down >> but just to break it down one, one step at a time through that then. so you're that logic then. so you're not saying too people saying it's too many people are causing maths causing this because the maths isn't poos , it's too isn't too many poos, it's too much water isn't too much much flood water isn't too much stormwater, obviously runs stormwater, which obviously runs faster if there's no interception store because you've to you've knocked things down to build houses. but the normal argument is we haven't built houses. argument is we haven't built houses . even with a booming houses. even with a booming population. we've not converted, we've converted houses into flats. >> so a road that was designed to house 100 people now might have 3000 on it, but that won't make things flood will make things flood quicker, will it? overflows it? it will mean the overflows will will build up faster. when it rains. more toilets, there'll be certain areas where what it is, it's diluted sewage water. so. so this goes into the areas that are, that are for holding . that are, that are for holding. and then when it rains there's a risk of overflow and it backing

up people's toilets. up through people's toilets. so they go into our they let it go into our waterways. flat. they let it go into our wat so rays. flat. they let it go into our watso that's flat. they let it go into our watso that's exactly flat. they let it go into our watso that's exactly what. >> so that's exactly what happened well. i see your happened as well. i can see your point that point in that one, how that might it's over. >> over development. it's >> it's over development. it's these. to some extent these these. it's to some extent these horrific predesigned on some computer system buildings that you're seeing going every you're seeing going up in every area that could be anywhere in the world, to some extent, this is making the problem worse. >> what about the oh, on, wayne. >> well, well, we flood where i am, doesn't to my am, it doesn't come up to my door there's a little door because there's a little street, down on the pathway, street, but down on the pathway, on green . they on strand, on the green. they regularly high tides at regularly have high tides at certain year, and certain time of the year, and they where they but they know where they are. but recently, rain, recently, because of the rain, it's flooding right up. it's been flooding right up. well, it goes right up to half their doorstep . and they put their doorstep. and they put they've got stuff to put in to stop it leaking . but i mean, are stop it leaking. but i mean, are they now being left with poo all over gardens . yes. i mean over their gardens. yes. i mean this this is terrible. so this is this is terrible. and so the e.coli is encroaching on the land. the e.coli is encroaching on the land . and so it's going to land. and so it's going to spread and spread. >> and it's interesting you say that because, you know, we had we had the same flooding and it

was in and it was all outside our yes. and of our flats. yes. and now of course , you know, people say course, you know, people say take your off before you take your shoes off before you come that suddenly come in. yeah. and that suddenly struck i thought, yeah, struck me and i thought, yeah, that sense because that really makes sense because obviously you're stepping past what been of what has been kind of effectively, you know. exactly. and into home and then walking into your home and the, the and it seems like the, the thames barrier is coming into no effect at all if rain comes from inland. >> yeah. it's not coming from the sea. yeah. and it will at some point that barrier is going to break down. they said. and we're going to flood right up to south that's south kensington. that's what i read a few years ago. >> might be south >> it might be my south kensington. >> it might be my south kensingtois, is another >> there is, there is another elephant room. it's elephant in the room. it's a slightly of slightly greener hue of elephant, because these problems are extreme weather are linked to extreme weather events . should we prepare events. should we prepare because of climate change? who's going take the climate change going to take the climate change angle? >> climate change? what's so funny? thought funny? i thought, i thought we're down. only we're going to go down. the only changes, yeah. we're going to go down. the only changes, you yeah. we're going to go down. the only changes, you got yeah. we're going to go down. the only changes, you got you've'eah. we're going to go down. the only changes, you got you've got to >> have you got you've got to talk climate change. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> right. yeah. >> yeah. >> yowt. yeah. >> yeah. >> you think h. >> yeah. >> you think this is that >> do you think this is that something in mind. >> do you think this is that sonclimate in mind. >> do you think this is that sonclimate change. in mind. >> do you think this is that sonclimate change. also nind. >> climate change. but also our inability to cope any kind inability to cope with any kind of you leaves on of weather, you know, leaves on a l

of weather, you know, leaves on a , whether it's more rain, a track, whether it's more rain, whether it's snow, whether it's the just can't cope in the heat, we just can't cope in this with any weather, this country with any weather, anything. you think we'd cope with? because that's, like, with? rain because that's, like, kind of our default. know, kind of our default. you know, we used to be able to we did used to be able to though, before privatisation and maybe in demographic numbers. >> we used able to >> but we did used to be able to have nice water coming out of the necessarily the tap. not necessarily loads of and the ability of hosepipe bans and the ability to flush something away. it to flush something away. and it stayed buti to flush something away. and it stayed but i mean, you know, >> yes, but i mean, you know, that's when we had nice seasons. >> snow in the winter, we >> we had snow in the winter, we had spring, had had a spring, then we had a summer, autumn . it's sort of all summer, autumn. it's sort of all merged into one mish mash of poo i >> -- >> is the person leaning on the right . climate change. we've all right. climate change. we've all got to go, greta, haven't we? >> so, look, i would say we do not need to go. greta, the issue with change is that they with climate change is that they always religious always seem the religious climate change activists always seem to have an answer for everything. almost everything. and it is almost like another religion, so i think we need to do is bear think what we need to do is bear in mind quality of life as well. and why i mentioned green levies at the start of the show is the fact that it's not taking into

account the impact has account the impact that it has on on, on everyday people. this is about our government responding to, to changes in demographics and to making sure that there isn't poo released into our waters. i don't think it's got to do climate it's got to do with climate change. fairly change. the seasons are fairly stable . stable. >> well excellent stuff. keep your views in. coming your views coming in. but coming up next in the big story, as home secretary james cleverly warns against allowing asylum seekers to exploit system . seekers to exploit the system. and with churches empty this easter, as britain lost faith with the church, this is mark dolan tonight on gb news with stephen

this -- this is mark dolan tonight on gb news with me. stephen allen. let's get some of your emails. marie says our sewage system was put a long time ago, when put in a long time ago, when there were 60 million people in this country. there's now nearly 70 million people in this

country. northern ireland. water is publicly owned, and we don't have many problems. this is from trevor martin on this subject says on swimming. what is worrying is we were taught to breathe with the mouth. it sounded solid advice, but is now a tad dangerous. and lastly, from dave, we should be able to swim in the sea or paddle in our rivers safely. instead these days we can only go through the motions. thank you for work like that. keep them coming through right now. it's time for our big story tonight. home secretary james has warned the james cleverly has warned the church to allow asylum church not to allow asylum seekers system by seekers to cheat the system by converting to christianity. this, ezedi this, after abdul ezedi a convicted sex offender who was one of those so—called converters, went on to rampage with a chemical attack on the streets of london before being found dead days later. he then received a muslim funeral after his body was pulled from the river thames. plus as churches close, wardens disappear and calls are made for slave trade reparations. as britain lost faith in the church . joining

reparations. as britain lost faith in the church .joining me faith in the church. joining me to discuss this is reverend keith waters , who joins us, so keith waters, who joins us, so why are things not looking good? would be the first question i'd like to ask you . like to ask you. >> why not? things not looking good with with the church, yeah, i guess fondness to it, i suppose. after after that list of things that are happening, it's not looking like you're having success. having a pr success. >> well, you know, i think the church is probably rarely had a pr success, but i think there's also a question is, what is the church when the church is christian people? it's not buildings. it's not organisations. and so i think in this country particularly, we've had a kind of lead far as the had a kind of lead as far as the media concerned. any media are concerned. any question about faith, question you ask about faith, it's usually let's, let's grab if it's christian faith , let's if it's christian faith, let's grab the church of england. and i think the church of england, you know, i speak as somebody who was once an anglican, member. i was actually came to

faith in an anglican church . but faith in an anglican church. but there has been a real shift, from faith to politics, it seems , across a lot of, sadly, a lot of denominations, not just the anglican church. i don't rubbish any denomination as such, but certainly organised faith, christian faith in this country. it's not had a good press and sometimes it's given itself quite a bad press, so i think that's part of the issue we have. >> you make an interesting point there about when we when we say when we speak of religion, we think church almost think of the church almost the organisation of and suppose organisation of and i suppose that's, where split that's, that's where the split is, causing some of these is, that's causing some of these problems, isn't it? the actual worshippers aren't necessarily on the same page. let's do the cliche from same cliche singing from the same hymn as people hymn sheet as the people doing the organisation, some the organisation, making some statements say, statements that, as you say, might too political . might be seen as too political. >> yeah, well, what you find is an interesting thing when you look at the statistics of, you know, you see droves of people

leaving the church and the statistics actually there, there are churches that are growing in number. the churches that are growing in number are those that are preaching the truth of the gospel, you on a day like gospel, you know, on a day like today, had a good full today, we had a good full church. it's not very different on any other week. we have on any any other week. we have people coming in who want to know truth jesus know about the truth of jesus christ. so, know, the christ. and so, you know, the church is a family of believers. it is it is sadly, these days seen in the media as something of a parody, really , of true of a parody, really, of true faith and what do you think of, of one of the stories we were talking about there, the home secretary warning about what what perceived as what is being perceived as a system of cheating the official asylum system by turning up to the uk, saying you've converted and then getting the backing of the church to make the error that accused of earlier . that you accused me of earlier. well, you know, i'd say he's absolutely right . you know, as, absolutely right. you know, as, as, as a christian minister,

i'm, i'm really perplexed and confused as to how somebody could come in as clearly somebody, a follower of the islamic faith and suddenly convert to christianity. now, that can happen. of course. but as i mentioned, you know, a church is a family of believers. and so somebody if they were to turn up and we have people from all sorts of places will be part of our church family, but we get to know them, we don't just kind of get to know them as they are. if somebody who converts to christianity , which does sound christianity, which does sound kind of like weird old fashioned jargon, but know , becomes a jargon, but you know, becomes a christian. well, the truth is, jargon, but you know, becomes a christwillwell, the truth is, jargon, but you know, becomes a christwillweia the truth is, jargon, but you know, becomes a christwillweia change,h is, there will be a change, a natural change in their behaviour and attitudes . i mean, behaviour and attitudes. i mean, you might not think it, but i'm, you might not think it, but i'm, you know, i'm actually the improved version of me, that's the way it works. it comes comes around naturally. and so if you don't see that, if there is no change, then why would you go

through the process of , you through the process of, you know, enabling somebody to make a public confession of faith, which they clearly don't have , which they clearly don't have, and i can see that maybe there's and i can see that maybe there's a you know, maybe you think, well, it's a numbers game. we just want to get a tick in the box that's a dreadful thing. that nothing do box that's a dreadful thing. that the nothing do box that's a dreadful thing. that the christianthing do box that's a dreadful thing. that the christian faith. do with the christian faith. christian willingly christian faith is willingly accepting will accept accepting those who will accept jesus and giving them the opportunity to make that statement. say, jesus has made such a difference in my life. i want to commit my life to him, and i want to live for him. and you'll see that actually, there will be people who be will be people who will be not just turning sunday. you just turning up on a sunday. you know, could up on know, somebody could turn up on a it to get into a sunday. they do it to get into schools, don't they? so i understand to understand if you want to get into anglican you into an anglican school, you turn up on a sunday or a methodist school or whatever. you know, you could could you know, you could you could do that. you know, you could you could do that . but actually this you know, you could you could do that. but actually this is about life. so you're going to turn up at you're going at other things. you're going to be to people. be in getting to know people. and a big difference. and it's a big difference. >> isn't there an issue that regardless of how high you set the the prize at the end

the bar, if the prize at the end of having someone be in of it is having someone be in your corner when trying to go through you through the asylum system, you will simply find out what you need to do it. it draws need to do and do it. it draws that parallel to, as you say, the out what the schools people work out what is the bare minimum they need to do benefit of having do to get the benefit of having the their side . the church on their side. >> think that's what >> sadly, i think that's what seems happened . but as seems to have happened. but as my i hope i've explained well enough that there wouldn't be that bare minimum. but it is a case of there is a sure and certain hope that people will have and that is reflected in the life. you can't . it's not the life. you can't. it's not something that you can kind of hide. you could certainly tick the boxes. you know, i could have a great, great, you know, business going of, you know, ticking boxes , you know, getting ticking boxes, you know, getting people coming through just to, to make numbers look like they work and get get asylum claims going. that would be a dreadful thing to do. >> and we should say just on this, i think i should just say the archbishop canterbury has the archbishop of canterbury has previously there's previously said there's no evidence to support claims of the england subverting the church of england subverting the church of england subverting

the by allowing the asylum system by allowing spunous spurious conversions to christianity . so i guess it's christianity. so i guess it's worth bringing that side of the argument in, but pointing out that it argument in, but pointing out thatitis argument in, but pointing out that it is contentious issue . that it is a contentious issue. >> yeah, because, you know, it turns out that it is. it's not just the church of england, you know, whilst i've said you, they're not necessarily the best representative of christianity in country . and i would in this country. and i would stand that, there are some stand by that, i there are some great christians in the anglican church , but also the hierarchy church, but also the hierarchy give a very skewed view of what believers believe. it's not it's not the same thing, but there are other other people who are doing this. i'm sure . yeah, it's doing this. i'm sure. yeah, it's not just that that particular denomination . denomination. >> yeah. well, thank you for that, reverend keith waters , that, reverend keith waters, thank you for joining that, reverend keith waters, thank you forjoining us. coming thank you for joining us. coming up with tonight's top pundits, we're going to take a look at all of the weird and wonderful news across easter. plus, the orkney shop owner mistakenly orkney shop owner who mistakenly ordered more eggs than the entire island's population , has entire island's population, has been raffling them off for charity. he will exclusively

reveal the winner of that raffle in just a few minutes.

this is mark dolan tonight on gb news with me. stephen allen. let's get to some more of your emails. mary said i don't know which churches you are talking about every about here in swindon. every church the church was packed to the rafters. i am a rafters. i forgot to say i am a catholic . thanks be to god. pete catholic. thanks be to god. pete says.i catholic. thanks be to god. pete says. i was at church today with over 400 people and margaret says the reason the churches are emptying is because the gospel is not preached or taught properly anymore . the church properly anymore. the church i go to in swinbrook in oxfordshire is packed and it was especially packed today. the gospel is always preached in a way that is absorbing and alive. most churches now have too much babble and not enough bible . babble and not enough bible. okay, keep them coming through with your thoughts. now let's move on to this. let's take a

look at some of the excellent stories which have grabbed our attention over this easter weekend . it's a bank holiday. weekend. it's a bank holiday. you've got us do jokes you've got to let us do jokes like that. vets have been warning pet owners to avoid feeding during feeding them chocolate during easter, as chocolate poisonings are soaring, so would you think that this was not clearly obvious? let's bring in our pundits. comedian sevilla kirsch , dancer and performer wayne sleep, and political commentator joseph david. and have you got pets? first of all, let's go to my sister has, i think, nine cats and a dog. >> oh, right. i can speak with some, with with some authority. no, but it just goes to show that a dog is for not christmas. it's for life. and if you do keep it past christmas , don't keep it past christmas, don't kill with an easter egg. but kill it with an easter egg. but thankfully, too thankfully, they're too expensive now, so no one's buying them and the animals are safe. yes >> good point. >> good point. >> and also >> yeah, well. and also chocolate expensive . chocolate eggs are expensive. dogs are expensive. never the twain. this, twain. surely we all know this, don't is don't we? that chocolate is a technically poison humans technically a poison for humans as . just the quantity chocolate. >> i was going to say. when did

it being a poison for it stop being a poison for humans? no, but kill dogs instantly. no, it can. >> no, it it can. >> yes. yeah, it's so much >> yes. yeah, but it's so much naughty but nice. >> after read that >> but i mean, after i read that when doing the, you know, when i was doing the, you know, the idiot before the kind of idiot before the show, neighbour's dog. show, my neighbour's got a dog. and got and on the landing, we've got our and put my our paper bin and i put my chocolate. i didn't eat it. it was friend susie, way. was my friend susie, by the way. she hello so was she says hello anyway, so i was then thinking, what if he then thinking, oh, what if he licked the box? there's bits of chocolate licked the box? there's bits of cho oh ate licked the box? there's bits of chooh dear, i'm sorry , neighbour. >> if a dog gets killed. >> if a dog gets killed. >> dog? no, think the >> the dog? no, i think it's the same us, the amount of same as us, right? the amount of chocolate for it to be same as us, right? the amount of cilethale for it to be same as us, right? the amount of cilethal dose for it to be same as us, right? the amount of cilethal dose of for it to be same as us, right? the amount of cilethal dose of that for it to be same as us, right? the amount of cilethal dose of that poison. be a lethal dose of that poison. it's i think, licking it's huge, i think, licking a few but not. not few bits, but i'm not. i'm not saying your lick saying let your dogs lick chocolate because someone will write think you'll be giving >> but i think you'll be giving your dogs chocolate. >> yourself. >> eat the chocolate yourself. it's then we're it's better, but then we're warned by nhs doctors not to overindulge, mean , overindulge, are we? i mean, this week there was the story. >> it's sugar, you know, >> it's the sugar, you know, it's rush there's it's the sugar rush. there's it's the sugar rush. there's it's you. not it's going to kill you. it's not chocolate. the sugar chocolate. it's just the sugar in sweets and everything else. so wonder what it must be. the so i wonder what it must be. the cocoa in chocolate that kills the dog. >> bromine. >> bromine. >> or one of those chemicals in there that will. >> you're a dog, can't >> yes. if you're a dog, can't be sugar because other

be the sugar because these other things yeah. but they try >> the dogs. yeah. but they try and and eat and eat well. they try and eat me well because nigel farage >> well because nigel farage pushed back at the idea the pushed back at the idea of the nanny told, mean, pushed back at the idea of the newas told, mean, pushed back at the idea of the newas just told, mean, pushed back at the idea of the newas just an told, mean, pushed back at the idea of the newas just an nhstold, mean, pushed back at the idea of the newas just an nhs doctor�*nean, it was just an nhs doctor writing blog. not writing a blog. it's not like official government guidance , official government guidance, but i wonder if he's going to cram his dog. cram an egg down his dog. >> i think they're >> well, i think they're doing us . us a favour. >> i they're doing us a >> i think they're doing us a favour way, having the favour in a way, by having the same packaging, all favour in a way, by having the sandifferent|ing, all favour in a way, by having the san different products all favour in a way, by having the san different products we've all the different products we've known since were years known since we were five years old shop. but they're old in a sweet shop. but they're making them smaller. they're using same packaging using the same colour packaging and , but they're and everything, but they're making it smaller and charging more, is really more, which i think is really outrageous doesn't outrageous because it doesn't taste the same. >> you've slimmed >> no. yeah. if you've slimmed down the flake. no. we've all loved that it's not the loved that advert. it's not the same feeling. no. yeah. >> no. but i think across the country paying more and country you're paying more and getting you mentioned getting less. and you mentioned the state. now the nanny state. now supermarkets can't put easter eggsin supermarkets can't put easter eggs in prominent positions anymore. they have a seasonal aisle where people can go to get their easter eggs. god forbid someone see fancy someone should see it, fancy it and heard that and buy it. and i've heard that cadbury are talking about removing from their

removing easter from their packaging, well, they've lost packaging, so well, they've lost so much money. >> it never seems to happen. >> it never seems to happen. >> no , i don't think it will. >> no, i don't think it will. >> no, i don't think it will. >> but fact we're >> but the fact that we're talking goes to talking about it just goes to show think woke is trying show that i think woke is trying to eggs. as to kill easter eggs. well, as everything , ridiculous everything else, ridiculous because make because it doesn't make any difference whether you put easter or not on an egg. >> yeah, are going to buy easter or not on an egg. >>i(eah, are going to buy easter or not on an egg. >>i don't are going to buy easter or not on an egg. >>i don't think are going to buy easter or not on an egg. >>i don't think people ing to buy easter or not on an egg. >>i don't think people care.» buy it. i don't think people care. >> also should >> yeah, but also you should be allowed once while to allowed once in a while to indulge. that's have indulge. that's how you have a healthy in healthy diet every once in a while, give temptation and while, give into temptation and have and, you have an easter egg and, you know, splurge a little bit on, on on your diet while. on on your diet once in a while. i the needs to step i think the state needs to step back bit. back a little bit. >> what's it got do >> and but what's it got to do with religion anyway? an egg? i mean, come about? mean, how did that come about? >> it ? >> rebirth. isn't it? >> rebirth. isn't it? >> it's a rebirth. oh, is it supposed a witch? supposed to be a witch? >> know it's >> i don't know why. it's a chocolate you've got chocolate egg. you've got me on that chocolate egg. you've got me on tha i'll give that. >> i'll give you that. >> i'll give you that. >> should say, for like, >> i also should say, for like, legal die legal reasons, you can't die from you just. maybe. >> oh, sorry. no. a >> oh, sorry. no, no. a lifestyle sugar. lifestyle of sugar. >> can get addicted >> but you can get addicted to sugar to alcohol >> but you can get addicted to sugihave to alcohol >> but you can get addicted to sugihave to to alcohol >> but you can get addicted to sugihave to go to alcohol >> but you can get addicted to sugihave to go to to alcohol >> but you can get addicted to sugihave to go to special hol and have to go to special meetings. and have to go to special me�*wells. and have to go to special me�*well , not everyone obviously, >> well, not everyone obviously, mark dolan mark dolan is not addicted that's addicted to sugar, and that's why he's not here tonight. >> hide during easter. >> he has to hide during easter. it's if he's got he

it's just imagine if he's got he has got to hide away all has got to hide away from all the eggs. >> knew i knew girl, i >> but i knew i knew a girl, i knew fact. and she knew a lady, in fact. and she worked for magazine worked for vogue magazine and she alcoholic . then she she was an alcoholic. then she was cured of that. then she sat at paddington station . she told at paddington station. she told me this and ordered £30 of children's, sweets , saying she children's, sweets, saying she was giving a party and had them all on the station and went back home. missed all the trains. well, you just replace run home, couldn't she? >> she need a train . >> she wouldn't need a train. >> she wouldn't need a train. >> let's move on to the next bit. >> onto orkney. now, you might have heard this story. there's an orkney shop owner, dan david, who made the headlines last week because it was a bit of an admin error, he ordered 80 cases of easter eggs rather than 80 eggs. 720 eggs were then delivered to his store on the island of sandy. and here's the problem, right? the island's population is 494 and more eggs than people . in an attempt to get rid of some of the chocolate treats, dan, who owns sinclair general stores, decided to raffle off

100 of the eggs to one lucky winner and to help raise funds for a charity, can for a charity, he can exclusively winner exclusively reveal. the winner on this show, take it away, dan . on this show, take it away, dan. >> hello everyone. this is the orkney egg man and we are doing the live draw for our raffle for the live draw for our raffle for the rnli. thank you so much everyone for supporting our effort and thank you for my staff for helping with this wonderful draw, we are live from leeds and we are about to draw the raffle and my good friend here, matthew rogers will will do just that now. so if we zoom in on the phone. okay. and the winner of the raffle is good luck to everybody. >> random number, generator number five four, four. >> and the winner is number 544. as dan revealed there, the ticket five, four, four is the winning ticket. >> so the winner is russell dolan. congratulations, russell. the winner of a hundred easter

eggs. don't eat them all at once. seems to be the advice, and certainly no one near your dog. dan and his staff roughly sold 7000 tickets £1 each, sold 7000 tickets at £1 each, and then doubled by and this was then doubled by nestle. so 14 grand rates for charity, thought sevilla. charity, panel thought sevilla. this is this is a double win, isn't it? people eat chocolate and people get money. >> yeah, i think a >> yeah, i think that's a brilliant mind brilliant idea. but mind you, getting 100 now, what getting the 100 eggs now, what do them? it's like do you do with them? it's like the know , the millionaire s, you know, when to give all that when he had to give all that money like, do money away, it's like, how do you eggs? you get rid of those eggs? everyone's monday, you get rid of those eggs? everyone's like, monday, you get rid of those eggs? everyone's like, oh, monday, you get rid of those eggs? everyone's like, oh, god, ay, everyone's like, oh, god, sick of and of of the chocolate and full of eggs. going them. eggs. he's going to want them. >> if we're >> so. and, wayne, if we're brutally the brutally honest, today's the wrong receive of wrong day to receive lots of easter wrong day to receive lots of easyeah, tomorrow wrong. >> yeah, tomorrow it's wrong. >> you'll be pooing so much. attempts water attempts won't have any water left it . left in it. >> but in general, this is. it's a step in the right. >> it's a fantastic. >> it's a fantastic. >> it's a fantastic. >> it is a wonderful to give to charity . charity. >> yes, it shows the beauty of charity the power of charity and the power of community. and now the rnli will have more money to spend on have lots more money to spend on diversity training. good diversity training. so good for everyone . everyone. >> i couldn't let it lie, could you? couldn't let a good >> i couldn't let it lie, could you? happen.dn't let a good >> i couldn't let it lie, could you? happen , n't let a good >> i couldn't let it lie, could you? happen , coming good >> i couldn't let it lie, could you? happen , coming up od >> i couldn't let it lie, could you? happen , coming up in my

thing happen, coming up in my take, at ten, at a time when the country is full of protests , is country is full of protests, is now that the new normal. but first is met police fit for first is the met police fit for purpose? this is mark dolan tonight on gb news with me. stephen allen

welcome back. now the metropolitan police have been criticised for telling a jewish woman that swastikas need to be taken into into context. after she complained about the nazi symbol being used in a pro—palestine march on the banners in london yesterday. here's what happened to walk with me, because i can point these people out to you. >> and again, i was told when i asked swastika not asked that a swastika was not necessarily anti—semitic or disruptive to public order. >> to me i >> everything needs to be taken in context, it ? in context, doesn't it? >> but it's a context of why. why does it? >> why does the swastika need

context? >> israel. >> israel. >> what exactly are you confused about ? about? >> because what was confused >> because what i was confused is don't in what is how you don't in what context? not context? a swastika is not anti—semitic. this is what i want because again, i want to know. because again, i suppose some know how suppose to some i don't know how everybody would feel about that sign that has happened. >> i cannot i'm here working for the branch commander, and it is not my responsibility . not my responsibility. >> unfortunately, my role to walk down the road have the metropolitan police just been caughtin metropolitan police just been caught in the middle. >> are they struggling to police these marches? yesterday was the 11th pro—palestine march to take place in the capital since october. so is the met police fit for purpose? joining me now is musician and podcaster winston marshall , context needs winston marshall, context needs to be included when thinking about a swastika. it's not normally a point you'd imagine someone making, is it? >> well, i think this particular example from this weekend's protests actually isn't as as shocking as some of the other

things that happened this weekend. so it might be worth just examining some of those things. it included a man shouting that proudly and smiling that he supported her mass. it included many people pointing and screaming at the pro—israel march that was happening also in london, saying that they were, murder errors and they were explicitly anti—zionist to those people. they were kids singing houthis. houthis do us proud. turn another ship around, as well as palestine, from the river to the sea. palestine will be free. these hate marches, which , as these hate marches, which, as you said, there's been 11 since. since the, this horrible war began. we're nearly at six months into this horrible war. it was worth remembering a horrible war, which, of course, important for context , horrible war, which, of course, important for context, would be overif important for context, would be over if hamas would release the 134 protesters and themselves

surrender. i have witnessed a few of these . i, on october 9th, few of these. i, on october 9th, i went to the israel vigil on whitehall , i went to the israel vigil on whitehall, and it was a very solemn and despite very bleak and sad time, it was it had a sort of a wonderful camaraderie amongst people mourning that evening on the tube. i came across a bunch of people who had been at the israel embassy celebrating . and of course, your celebrating. and of course, your viewers will be aware they'll have seen the well documented footage by great photojournalists like stewart mitchell documenting that evening , where people were on evening, where people were on their knees praising allah akban their knees praising allah akbar, were setting off green and red flares, and i myself was confronted. one of these people on on the way home. these are anti israel marches. they're not pro—palestine marches. now i

know we want before we carry on. >> yeah, exactly. i want to drag us. us. >> us. >> i think is quite important because it's quite useful. something that's brought up about yougov a about a week ago yougov did a poll they poll of the country and they asked, hamas asked, do you think the hamas attack on israel in early october was or was not justified 7 october was or was not justified ? only 5% said it was justified . ? only 5% said it was justified. so yes, we are seeing every week it seems like every weekend to me, these sort of marches , me, these sort of marches, actually it's a minority. it's a big minority. it's 3.3 million. >> yeah, exactly. that's one of the things that we, we, we should talk about is that people will say these protests are largely and in a sense, largely peaceful and in a sense, it's the bits that aren't that require the focus , rather than require the focus, rather than trying to paint that as the wide picture. the question about the police, regardless of how small and number these and how few in number these events are, why do you think the police are doing nothing ? police are doing nothing? >> well, almost worse than nothing. there's example . nothing. there's an example. there's a man, an iranian man called niyak ghorbani . you might called niyak ghorbani. you might remember him about two weeks

ago. he was assaulted for holding up a hamas. is terrorist bannen holding up a hamas. is terrorist banner. and the police, instead of arresting his assaulters arrested him. now, this weekend, the same thing has happened . he the same thing has happened. he was assaulted again, this time rather more violently . you can rather more violently. you can see his full report is on his twitter feed . and again, the twitter feed. and again, the police arrested him . police arrested him. >> but again, you're just telling me things that happen. the question that i'm trying to get motivation? get to is what's the motivation? do you think the police get to is what's the motivation? do afraid you think the police get to is what's the motivation? do afraid to>u think the police get to is what's the motivation? do afraid to act1ink the police get to is what's the motivation? do afraid to act because police get to is what's the motivation? do afraid to act because maybe are afraid to act because maybe their have further their actions would have further consequences to consequences? they don't want to deal with? >> it's a good question and i obviously can't read inside their minds. i would say it's a bit of a pretty it's a pretty impossible situation for them. they're underfunded. they're badly . they've got badly supported. they've got terrible quangos behind them, like the college of police. they're not given good directions. they're given bad directions. they're given bad directions. sadiq khan . who is directions. sadiq khan. who is the you know, the police and

crime commissioner has been absolutely dreadful and done nothing . in fact, him and the nothing. in fact, him and the met commissioner, sir mark rowley, have the rather horrendous legacy of presiding over london's police and crime whilst we have record anti—semitism surging, i, i can't i can't tell you exactly what's going on inside the police. it's rather thankless, but what's very troubling is how easy it is for them to arrest some people, like niyak ghorbani , but then completely turned a blind to eye the openly anti—semitic people. it doesn't it doesn't add up. and i think people see that , i mean, i seem people see that, i mean, i seem to remember the police said he wasn't arrested for holding up the placard. he was arrested for a previous altercation. it's the newspapers that put those two things together. so i suppose if you dig down deeply into all of the individual stories, that's where the information truly

lies. the general theme that we we're trying to get to is why do the police not do anything or as you say, they do, do things. we hear stories of people being arrested . they they, boasted arrested. they they, boasted possibly of the number of arrests over the weekend, but still, it seems to be letting people getting away with things that ordinarily you think should be stopped. >> they might have said that they've said several things, and for some reason they're putting a into their twitter a lot of time into their twitter feed, the police, and quite feed, the met police, and quite regularly community regularly getting community noted, because the evidence is quite clear and photographs and videos from what actually happens get posted. so it's not exactly clear that the met police are being totally truthful about what's going on. >> winston, we've to leave >> winston, we've got to leave it thank you very it there. but thank you very much for that. winston marshall, i for i should say, a spokesman for the met police said we are aware of an online clip from today's protest london protest in central london showing between protest in central london sh(officer between protest in central london sh(officer and between protest in central london sh(officer and a between protest in central london sh(officer and a womanietween protest in central london sh(officer and a woman ,tween protest in central london sh(officer and a woman , during an officer and a woman, during which there is an exchange over concerns around protesters displaying offensive banners, including swastikas. the online clip is a short excerpt of what

was a minute conversation was a ten minute conversation with officer . during full with an officer. during the full conversation, with an officer. during the full conversatiorthat person the established that the person the woman was concerned about was already arrested for a public order offence in relation to a placard. the officer then offered to arrange for another officer to accompany the woman, identifying other persons concerned and amongst the protesters, but unfortunate they had left . let's get the latest weather. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers, sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello! welcome to your latest gb news weather. it's been fairly sunny across the northern half of the uk. we've seen increasing cloud in the south and we're going to see further rain push in over the next few hours. the bigger hours. but looking at the bigger picture , low pressure dominates picture, low pressure dominates at the moment. does at the moment. it does mean further showers and rain is on the way and we've got some heavy rain evening across rain this evening across southern of england and

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gb news. >> it's 10:00. gb news. >> it's10:00. this is mark dolan. tonight on gb news with me, stephen allen. it might take at ten at a time when the country seems to be full of protests . this country seems to be full of protests. this is this country seems to be full of protests . this is this the protests. this is now this the new plus, are the tories new normal? plus, are the tories and reform at war. i'll be asking tonight's newsmaker , asking tonight's newsmaker, former conservative minister and now reform supporter ann widdecombe . plus tomorrow's widdecombe. plus tomorrow's newspapers, front pages and live reaction in the studio from tonight's top pundits. it's a packed show . lots to get packed show. lots to get through. but first, the news with tatiana sanchez.

>> steve, thank you very much. and good evening. the top stories this hour. king charles has made his first significant pubuc has made his first significant public appearance since his cancer diagnosis, joined by the queen, he smiled and waved as he left an easter sunday service at saint george's chapel in windsor and went on to greet crowds. a member of the public told the king to keep going strong, and others said he looked well . the others said he looked well. the prince and princess of wales missed the service as catherine continues her cancer treatment . continues her cancer treatment. meanwhile, the archbishop of canterbury has wished the king and princess of wales well dunng and princess of wales well during his easter sermon at canterbury cathedral, justin welby encouraged the congregation to pray for charles and catherine and praised their dignity as they both undergo treatment for cancer . the well. treatment for cancer. the well. in his easter message, the prime minister paid tribute to the work of churches and christian communities across the country . communities across the country. >> happy easter everyone! this weekend , as people come together weekend, as people come together to celebrate and reflect on the

message at the heart of the easter festival, i want to pay tribute to the incredible work of christians this country of christians in this country the churches, charities, volunteers and fundraisers who lived the christian values of compassion, charity and self—sacrifice, supporting those in need and demonstrating what it means to love thy neighbour. >> thousands of people turned out to see pope francis preside over easter mass at the vatican. the pontiff delivered his urbi et orbi blessing from the balcony of saint peter's basilica. pope francis, who's been dealing with health problems in recent weeks, used his address to renew his call for an immediate ceasefire in gaza along with the release of all israeli hostages . meanwhile, all israeli hostages. meanwhile, israel's prime minister says more than 200 gunmen have been killed by his country's forces at a hospital in northern gaza. another hospital further south was also targeted by an airstrike . several tents on the airstrike. several tents on the grounds of the al shifa were hit, reported killing four

people and injuring others, including journalists . the including journalists. the israeli military says it was focusing on a terrorist command centre, the precise hit, designed to minimise civilian casualties. benjamin netanyahu also declared there would be no victory over hamas without a rafah operation , and a new poll rafah operation, and a new poll suggests the tories are on track for their worst general election result. survation found the party could win fewer than 100 seats, with labour predicted to sweep to power with a landslide victory of 468 seats. the 15,000 person poll indicated the conservatives would be wiped out in scotland and wales, and hold just 98 seats in england . for just 98 seats in england. for the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen , or the qr code on your screen, or go to gb news .com/ alerts. now back to . steve.

back to. steve. >> welcome to mark dolan tonight on gb news with me. steve and alan are the tories and reform at war. i'll be asking tonight's newsmaker, former conservative minister and now reform supporter ann widdecombe. plus tomorrow's newspaper front pages and live reaction in the studio from tonight's top pundits, comedians sir gilles kirsch , comedians sir gilles kirsch, dancer and performer wayne sleep, and political commentator joseph david are all with us. and they'll be nominating their headune and they'll be nominating their headline heroes and back page zeroes a little later on a packed hour. and those papers are coming. but first, it's my take at ten. you know, a country's going well when a lot of the news is about protests. and that is what we've got a war 2000 miles away is affecting your ability to get around london. like every london. what seems like every weekend can find m25 london. what seems like every weekerwhen can find m25 london. what seems like every weekerwhen someind m25 london. what seems like every weekerwhen some group m25 london. what seems like every weekerwhen some group thinks closed when some group thinks that your loft needs extra lagging most weeks you get lagging and most weeks you get some students serving soup at a painting. what value do you put

on the right to protest? they're annoying, but aren't they meant to be annoying to achieve something? some protests have seen the use of light projection to show what many see as a threatening slogan on the houses of parliament. should that . be of parliament. should that. be stopped. one former tory minister, robert jackson, said light projections could be damaging our historic damaging to our historic buildings. only buildings. i mean, it's only photons. than photons. it's less damaging than sukh, we know but if it's sukh, we know that. but if it's allowed, the buildings allowed, all of the buildings could be lit up all of the time and will cost a lot and that will cost a lot of carbon. means other groups and that will cost a lot of carb then means other groups and that will cost a lot of carb then want eans other groups and that will cost a lot of carb then want tons other groups and that will cost a lot of carb then want to protest' groups will then want to protest about it. expect protesters to it. can you expect protesters to respect our buildings? meanwhile, many rejoiced at the chance to see king charles attend an official engagement, shaking the crowd shaking hands with the crowd at windsor the windsor castle, assuaging the nation's worries about the monarch's health. events monarch's health. these events still had anti—monarchy campaigners protesting despite royal diagnoses. is it a royal cancer diagnoses. is it a classic case of the protests you agree with? you think should go ahead.the agree with? you think should go ahead. the ones you don't agree with, you think you should stop? what value we give the

what value should we give the right ? right to protest? >> so what do you think? >> so what do you think? >> gbviews@gbnews.com and i will get to your emails shortly . get to your emails shortly. firstly, let's hear from tonight's top pundits comedian and broadcaster cecilia curci is with us, dancer and performer wayne sleep and political commentatorjoseph david wayne sleep and political commentator joseph david to wayne sleep and political commentatorjoseph david to go through this then. so when it comes to light projection, sevilla is that the better opfion?! sevilla is that the better option? i mean, at least no one's being souped up in a protest like that. >> yeah, and you don't have to leave the house. just leave the house. you just get one the one person to basically do the job is job of like 200,000, which is what like what the march was like yesterday, wasn't was it yesterday, wasn't it? or was it yesterday? lost of yesterday? yeah. lost track of days weekend . yeah days now easter weekend. yeah i mean i'm i've always mean i don't i'm i've always protested and i think it's our fundamental right to be able to protest. so i'm always going to be i'm just we were just talking saying way, do you know saying by the way, do you know that an engagement that he's missed an engagement today? did, i did, yes, today? yes i did, i did, yes, i want to take the opportunity to

wish a mazel tov to hezi and tamara, i'm so sorry for missing your day . your special day. >> thanks bringing it up. >> thanks for bringing it up. >> thanks for bringing it up. >> i can wish >> thanks for bringing it up. >> friend i can wish >> thanks for bringing it up. >> friend matthewi can wish >> thanks for bringing it up. >> friend matthew .can wish >> thanks for bringing it up. >> friend matthew . hello, sh matthew. >> what's happening? is everybody okay with the way matthew, my assistant. >> that who do you >> then in that case, who do you want ? want to go? >> their 20 birthday? >> their 20 birthday? >> shelly. sausages. now, honestly? >> clearly, you cancel that engagement before you realised. mark wasn't hosting the show. what? >> no, i came for you. absolutely i bless you. >> oh, no, you're good. but back to issue the. to the issue of the. >> the projection. i mean, it's not one of the houses not just the one of the houses of but that one of parliament, but that one particularly like it gets particularly seems like it gets the closest you can get to a light show crossing a line. i mean , it's the least impactful mean, it's the least impactful protest in ways in terms of protest in some ways in terms of it's not blocking a road. it's not. but projecting on our building , should it be stopped? building, should it be stopped? >> well, agree the former >> well, i agree with the former minister. i do believe it's virtual vandalism, and think virtual vandalism, and i think that buildings that there are some buildings in this country that hold a very high significance for the population, should be population, and nobody should be projecting on them unless they've permission from they've got the permission from they've got the permission from the authorities

the correct authorities that there buildings there are very many buildings like this and people up and down the country look to parliament as, as our centre of, of power. surely the message is that it should be projected on parliament, should be decided by the people who run the building. well, it's night. year's well, it's night. new year's eve. sorry. go on. >> good, good. eve. sorry. go on. >> where's)od. eve. sorry. go on. >> where's that new year's eve? eve. sorry. go on. >meanere's that new year's eve? eve. sorry. go on. >mean ,e's that new year's eve? eve. sorry. go on. >mean , you hat new year's eve? eve. sorry. go on. >mean , you know,w year's eve? eve. sorry. go on. >mean , you know, we ear's eve? eve. sorry. go on. >mean , you know, we have eve? i mean, you know, we have all these projections, we have drones, lot. drones, we have the whole lot. you could intercept those and put saying you put a message up saying you know, ban all this, you know, there's a bomb coming to kill us all something . all or something. >> you know, out to a >> you know, a shout out to a married a birthday married couple and a birthday you mention. married couple and a birthday you! mention. married couple and a birthday you! that's.1tion. married couple and a birthday you! that's. yes,. married couple and a birthday you! that's. yes, exactly. >> i mean, that's. yes, exactly. >> i mean, that's. yes, exactly. >> and mean, i've got a lovely >> and i mean, i've got a lovely protesting. lovely >> and i mean, i've got a lovely prote�*i'm]. lovely >> and i mean, i've got a lovely prote�*i'm protesting lovely >> and i mean, i've got a lovely prote�*i'm protesting that ely >> and i mean, i've got a lovely prote�*i'm protesting that ity wall. i'm protesting that it shouldn't happen. i've got a lovely wall at home, and you could advertise you could advertise whatever you like . and so if they get like on it. and so if they get to where you're free to that stage where you're free to that stage where you're free to do a light show or to be able to do a light show or whatever up whatever you want to put up there anywhere, know, there anywhere, you know, they'll so they'll be using us next. so we're projecting he's horrible. >> yeah, but where you live floods the time. >> yeah, but where you live floodwouldn't time. >> yeah, but where you live floodwouldn't want half my >> i wouldn't want half my advert no, but might sort of >> no, no, but it might sort of reflect into the thames, but it's not from

it's too not far from the reality because was very reality because there was a very big show , adrian big feminist show, adrian truscott, projected, truscott, when she projected, female on, on her female anatomy. >> yeah . all right. i was making >> yeah. all right. i was making a protest. but going back to your point. yeah. where it's, your point. yeah. where it's, you know, houses of parliament are you can are sacred. arguably, you can say that that it was a protest to say that we don't agree with what you're because many what you're doing, because many times, the state do times, as we know, the state do not necessarily speak for what the public want, the citizens want. we're not all united in what we want, but you know, clearly that's one way of getting i think getting heard. so i think projecting on, on where, projecting on, on, on where, where to project if projecting on, on, on where, whe have to project if projecting on, on, on where, whe have a to project if projecting on, on, on where, whe have a message ct if projecting on, on, on where, whe have a message that if projecting on, on, on where, whe have a message that you want you have a message that you want to give parliament to, to to give to parliament to, to give leaders . give to the leaders. >> well, we live in a country where people free to be where people are free to be offensive to some extent, but usually to . not and usually they choose to. not and there are millions of people up and down the country would and down the country who would have offended by have been deeply offended by that, not just because of the message, because that, not just because of the messepeople because that, not just because of the messepeople who because that, not just because of the messepeople who have)ecause that, not just because of the messepeople who have taken e that, not just because of the messepeople who have taken who these people who have taken who tookit these people who have taken who took it upon themselves to project something onto one of our buildings, our most important buildings, did anyone and did it without asking anyone and without any care or concern for

anybody no, they anybody who was no, that they didn't . didn't ask anyone. >> because. >> yes, because. >> yes, because. >> went the >> because people went to the police and they reported it. and the police were unsure whether the police were unsure whether the broken . and, the law had been broken. and, and the fact that it could be reported, would reported, the police would have then no, then turned around and said, no, no, been erased then turned around and said, no, no, a been erased then turned around and said, no, no, a loophole.een erased under a loophole. >> a loophole. and >> they found a loophole. and that's . it's that's the thing. it's like protest. start legislating that's the thing. it's like protest. protestingt legislating that's the thing. it's like protest. protesting , legislating that's the thing. it's like protest. protesting , against,|g that's the thing. it's like protest. protesting , against, you against protesting, against, you know, the ways that we protest, against protesting, against, you knowthat'svays that we protest, against protesting, against, you knowthat's ays that we protest, against protesting, against, you knowthat's a reallyt we protest, against protesting, against, you knowthat's a really slippery est, then that's a really slippery road because we all lose out then and all the people out there that think, oh, no, i hate this, hate that hate this, and i hate that and hate those and those people coming out and every having every weekend we're having to do that. day they're every weekend we're having to do that. to day they're every weekend we're having to do that. to want day they're every weekend we're having to do that. to want to ay they're every weekend we're having to do that. to want to protest're going to want to protest about something them, something that matters to them, and to and they won't be able to because thwarted it . and because we've thwarted it. and we really careful we need to be really careful that well , that there's no not well, well, i i've on, you know, i mean, i've been on, you know, marches being gay, the gay marches for being gay, the gay marches for being gay, the gay marches every year, and we go all the way through london and end up in hyde park and a ball. >> but we protest. oh, it's a yes, but we don't. we're not the protesters. we are told where the protesters are going to be. so they'll tell us as we go down saint james's, when you get to this corner, everybody that wants got

wants to protest has got permission to protest, but this is the corner. so mind flying missiles or anything like that, and you will banners in your and you will be banners in your face, but we expect it. so i don't mind them protesting the night is interesting because like i said, i've been marching my whole life protesting, it was a big part of the women's march, and where were and we knew where we were going. but had on the same but you also had on the same day, large kind of far right, day, a large kind of far right, quite racist, kind of , day, a large kind of far right, quite racist, kind of, but, you know, and but they were, they were protesting. that was fine because it's not like one protest more than protest deserves more space than another. have a problem another. i don't have a problem with them doing that. >> if you if you >> so if you if you fundamentally the fundamentally agree with the right agree with right to protest, you agree with the counter protest. >> yes, absolutely. protest. >> absolutely. tely. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> point >> is there a point when we have to and think of the to be practical and think of the cost, the policing cost, if you're protest you're having a protest every single it's millions single weekend and it's millions of pounds single weekend, of pounds every single weekend, done infinity, done extrapolated to infinity, you're bankrupt a country. >> hello. so if you had 200,000 people protesting every weekend for so long, maybe you start listening to why they're protesting, finding out what's happening, and maybe address

that. >> e- e yes, the point is, >> hang on. yes, the point is, people have been calling for a ceasefire. government has ceasefire. the government has actually for actually now called for a ceasefire. so people should ceasefire. so? so people should wishy ceasefire. the wishy washy ceasefire. the protesters should congratulate themselves over achieving their succeeded. >> they haven't succeeded because there hasn't been a ceasefire >> it needs to hang on. it needs to be mentioned. i'm focused in this and the impact this country and the impact on the living here, the people living here, that we're in we're all living together in a capital that's densely capital city that's very densely populated, to take populated, and we need to take into account that that message that was, that projected on, that was, that was projected on, on building many people on the building many people would offensive and it would find offensive and it might less might make them feel less welcome in their capital city. not to that protest not not to say that protest shouldn't , but maybe it shouldn't happen, but maybe it is we start is time that we should start thinking frequency of thinking about the frequency of these protests because because it everybody get on. >> but i'm older than all of you, and in my day, i never thought i'd say in my day because i used to be always told off. well, in my day we wouldn't do but anyway , in my do that sleep. but anyway, in my day we had speakers corner. you could go and say any speech you like, whether it doesn't matter what it was about, and it was

the freedom of speech and it used to be a hyde park corner, and it used to be one of the sites of london's come london sites of london's come to london petticoat lane and speaker's corner. >> we were brutally honest, though. that system's all very well made difference at well and made no difference at all. ignorable. all. it's entirely ignorable. what extinction rebellion did, which was the first time we noficed which was the first time we noticed changing. noticed protest changing. they realised don't protest a way realised don't protest in a way that directed that seems to be directed towards thing protest towards the thing you protest against protest in a way that gets us about it, that gets us talking about it, that gets us talking about it, that gets writing gets newspapers writing about it. there's a it. that's why there's been a change format. change in protest format. >> , i think this be >> yes, i think this can be unked >> yes, i think this can be linked to society and linked to current society and that the sensationalism of social media. >> so more attention you >> so the more attention you get, and even if it's negative attention, this raises your cause and the more the more views you get. actually translates to money. for a lot of people in in many instances. and unfortunately it has resulted in these garish protests that block main roads and stop ambulances from getting to where they need to be, becoming the modus operandi of a lot of organisations. i would say this. you mentioned , queen say this. you mentioned, queen camilla and there being protests

when went to, to, to church, when she went to, to, to church, deep down, i think the royal family will be very proud of the fact that they preside over a country where people can protest and have and they can come there and have freedom. just compare freedom. and if we just compare ourselves to russia or the theocrats in iran, we're very lucky to be able to protest in this. >> and part of the evil, you know, keep it above ground, don't put it underground where it to be illegal. it has to be illegal. >> yeah, well, your emails >> yeah, well, keep your emails coming on that as well. coming through on that as well. plus up the tories plus coming up are the tories and reform at war. i'll be asking tonight's newsmaker, former conservative minister now reform supporter ann widdecombe. plus and plus tomorrow's front pages and instant reactions from tonight's top. pundits there . top. pundits sat over there. this is mark dolan tonight

this -- this is mark dolan tonight on gb news with me. stephen allan, let's get to some of your emails. susan zheng qinwen says there's two ingredients that are poisonous to dogs and can be

fatal. this is in chocolate. they are theobromine and caffeine. never give your dog chocolate , i never do, i agree, chocolate, i never do, i agree, i eat it all myself and i don't have a dog. so there's two good reasons why i'm safe from that one. jim says one has the right to protest in the fairly end to protest in the uk fairly end of matters there. and of matters statement there. and lastly , from gordon, lastly, from gordon, can you give out sandra and give a shout out to sandra and myself as everyone else on the show is doing it? please lol certainly can. big shout out to you and sandra. thank you very much for that. keep the emails coming through. let's crack on to thing which is given to the next thing which is given this it seems to all this weekend. it seems to be all kicking between reform uk kicking off between reform uk and tories and the mail on and the tories and the mail on sunday. reform uk posted on ex, claiming that the tories have been working with the mail on sunday to do a hatchet job on them . reform uk prefaced them. reform uk prefaced the investigation the mail investigation by saying the mail on sunday is being selective in not reporting facts correctly. however, the mail on sunday posted this article in today's paper revealing an investigation into reform uk candidates. it continued to kick off on ex

between the two parties this morning. richard tice posted this on to a conservative party deputy chairman, jonathan gullace , in response to him gullace, in response to him criticising reform uk in the mail article. given the multiple bits of embarrassing personal information we have on you, i suggest you pipe down on your attacks against me, richard holden, the conservative party chair, then responded saying this what a threatening bully richard tice is exposing himself to be silly man. it's all kicking off, isn't it? so what's going on? joining me now is former conservative minister and now reform supporter ann widdecombe. so why is it all kicking off ann? >> oh, because the tories are getting rattled. if you actually look at what has been happening over the last, say, six months, our position in the polls has been very steadily, now regularly at 14, one poll, even at 16, and each one putting us just a few points behind the

tories. now they began off by dismissing us as they've realised that we're getting stronger and stronger. so they are getting more and more afraid. and so . what we're now afraid. and so. what we're now seeing, and i think we're going to see a lot more of it between now and the general election. it's of tory panic. it's the product of tory panic. they're good at panicking. they usually change their leader. this to this time they've decided to have another have an attack on another leader. takes change. leader. so it takes a change. >> just politics, >> is this not just politics, though? this what though? i mean, this is what happens, they happens, isn't it? i'm sure they have about laboun >> i'm that they do. and >> i'm sure that they do. and let and it and >> i'm sure that they do. and let labour and it and >> i'm sure that they do. and let labour get and it and >> i'm sure that they do. and let labour get on nd it and >> i'm sure that they do. and let labour get on and it and >> i'm sure that they do. and let labour get on and itit nd let labour get on and say it about but we've been about them. but what we've been doing is concentrating on policies, things like proportionality and net zero, actual policies to deal with immigration rather just immigration rather than just talking it, that's what talking about it, that's what we're focused on. the tories want to fight a dirty war. >> fair enough. let them. they're only showing themselves up for what they are and have been a very long time. up for what they are and have beecan a very long time. up for what they are and have beecan ia very long time. up for what they are and have beecan i check?.ong time. >> can i check? >> can i check? >> read the article >> did you read the article today , i skim read it. today, i skim read it. >> okay, so it points out some

what they would say. questionable facts about some of the candidates that you're fielding. did. does reform have a where it maybe it a problem where it maybe it needs to vet more thoroughly before candidates ? before standing candidates? >> no. >> no. >> i mean, if you just look at the history the major the history of both the major parties, the labour and the tories, dodgy tories, there have been dodgy candidates since time immemorial. they've been exposed. been exposed. they've generally been sacked. indeed. there's even a, you a big, row going on at you know, a big, row going on at the moment about the deputy leader of labour party . you leader of the labour party. you know, there is no such thing as leader of the labour party. you k|hardlyere is no such thing as leader of the labour party. you k|hardly any s no such thing as leader of the labour party. you k|hardly any such such thing as leader of the labour party. you k|hardly any such thing hing as leader of the labour party. you k|hardly any such thing asig as leader of the labour party. you k|hardly any such thing as a as a hardly any such thing as a candidate with absolutely nothing that somebody can attack someone, but what we have got in reform is a record of acting very quickly. we stood down two candidates fairly recently. we don't want that sort of don't we don't want that sort of stuff, you know, messing up our campaign. >> okay. i mean, so does reform still have work to do to be seen, to be perceived to be a respected political party? >> i don't think we have, any more work to do on that score

than , than the other parties do. than, than the other parties do. i mean, you know, what is serious about the tory party at the moment? i mean, just what is serious them , and that, of serious about them, and that, of course, why they're haemorrhaging. >> haemorrhaging? >> haemorrhaging? >> support to a reform. so i think have a lot of work to think we have a lot of work to do to get our policies over and to make sure that people know about yes, you're quite about them. yes, you're quite right that, i don't about them. yes, you're quite right we that, i don't about them. yes, you're quite right we needit, i don't about them. yes, you're quite right we need to i don't about them. yes, you're quite right we need to worryion't about them. yes, you're quite right we need to worry about our think we need to worry about our personal image. >> a numbers game issue >> is there a numbers game issue there, though, that you're right, every party right, every political party might some questionable might have some questionable people that that get through the vetting . but if you're vetting process. but if you're looking the bigger parties, looking at the bigger parties, larger people with a larger numbers of people with a few bad apples to pull out a cliche, if you've got cliche, but if you've got a smaller number, then maybe there is more of a concern about why the sunday managed to the mail on sunday managed to find questionable issues. >> well, first of all, so many is a bit of an exaggeration as percentage. >> yeah, that's what i was trying to get to from the way you're going on, the fact is that standing candidates that we're standing candidates in seat. we have in every single seat. so we have got number of candidates got a large number of candidates , and the solid fact is that, between now and the general

election, probably all parties will suffer attacks on some of their candidates. some of those attacks will be justified where they are justified. action has to nothing unusual to be taken. nothing unusual about performing that so conservative party as we were heanng conservative party as we were hearing in the news, could be left with fewer than 100 mps after the next general election, according new poll that according to this new poll that came out. >> that's the main difference came out. >> tiisn't the main difference came out. >> tiisn't it,e main difference came out. >> tiisn't it, that n difference came out. >> tiisn't it, that there'sence came out. >> tiisn't it, that there's no e came out. >> tiisn't it, that there's no , here, isn't it, that there's no, no deal, no standing down of candidates in areas where the tories might lose seats. why is the big falling out happen, dan? >> well, because we fell for that one last time. >> if you remember, when we were not the reform party but the brexit party, and, we stood down candidates in all seats that the tories were then holding, because we fell for that argument. >> well, you know, come on, don't let prejudice brexit and all the rest of it. let's, let's be cooperative , first of all, we be cooperative, first of all, we didn't get brexit, of course, nor did we get any thanks for what we had done that the tories actually continued to attack us,

and so there's no question and so no, there's no question of any deal this time. they had their chance. they didn't use it. they were very, very arrogant about it. now they're paying arrogant about it. now they're paying the penalty . paying the penalty. >> i can't say i'm sorry. >>— >> i can't say i'm sorry. >> so rishi sunak points out and i'm sure he uses this so often, it'll become one of his priorities. but by saying that a vote reform effectively vote for reform is effectively a vote for reform is effectively a vote for reform is effectively a vote for labour because the right traditionally doesn't have a vote, or in comparison a split vote, or in comparison to what the left's been like, the the left and the right fights the left and the right fights the left and the fights itself. but now the left fights itself. but now it split right it seems that the split right vote might with an vote might end up with an election that election outcome that ordinarily, i wouldn't have thought of . thought you'd be in favour of. >> well, if you mean do i favour a labour government, the answer is no . is no. >> but i don't favour a tory one either moment, and as far either at the moment, and as far as i'm concerned, a vote is a vote for starmer because you're voting quo. vote for starmer because you're voting voting quo. vote for starmer because you're voting voting one quo. vote for starmer because you're voting voting one ofo. vote for starmer because you're voting voting one of the two you're voting for one of the two big parties. starmer is going to win is what i say win anyway. this is what i say when tories say to me, oh dear, you might damage us. i say, look, starmer is going to win anyway. this is moment for

anyway. this is the moment for change. this is the moment for people we're fed up with change. this is the moment for peoplwe've we're fed up with change. this is the moment for peoplwe've got.a're fed up with change. this is the moment for peoplwe've got. we fed up with change. this is the moment for peoplwe've got. we wantp with what we've got. we want something about every something different about every hundred years that happens. you know, labour had to break through, you know, it does happen. this is our moment now when what people should be saying we really want to go saying is we really want to go on like this, or do we want a big, fundamental change as big, big fundamental change as reform is offering and widikum , reform is offering and widikum, thank you very much. >> looks like that war, that fight continues. we'll speak to you soon. now, coming you again soon. now, coming up, tomorrow's front pages tomorrow's newspaper front pages and live reaction in studio and live reaction in the studio from pundits. and from tonight's top pundits. and i'll be nominating. they'll be nominating their headline heroes and back page zeroes of the day. and we get to a little vote and we get to take a little vote on it. or at least i do. it's and we get to take a little vote on it. dolan least i do. it's and we get to take a little vote on it. dolan tonightio. it's

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front page of the mirror charles at easter service king's show of strength takes step back into pubuc strength takes step back into public life after responding well to cancer treatment. the front page of the guardian goes with plan to scrap non—dom tax status is full of loopholes for super rich as their main story. israel puts plan to un to disband palestine aid agency also cuts force universities to rely on chinese students. if you go through the story, it's almost over. rely on chinese students for funding and students for their funding and the daily mail 250 people, 250 needless deaths each week due to astonishing waits in a&e. the sun goes with the story of the king again. return of the king first public mingle since cancen first public mingle since cancer. shock is how they phrase it. and the daily star for the big news, star hasn't left the building. elvis fans are all spooked up. king of shock and roll haunting las vegas. i'm

sure we'll get to the bottom of that one. let's get reaction on those headlines , first of all, those headlines, first of all, from tonight's top pundits, comedian sevilla kirsch, dancer and wayne and and performer wayne sleep, and political commentator yosef david are us. let's go with david are with us. let's go with that. it was the that. times. i think it was the daily mail well that goes daily mail as well that goes with waits in a&e daily mail as well that goes with 250 waits in a&e daily mail as well that goes with 250 people. in a&e daily mail as well that goes with 250 people everyie daily mail as well that goes with 250 people every week . killed 250 people every week. even as someone i presume you love the nhs sajeela i do is a shocking number and it's a it's a death toll. it i mean that is shocking. >> i don't say they don't make mistakes, i was in uni just a few weeks ago, actually, weirdly . and every everyone i've been to medical practitioner. oh i've seen you in gp news by the way on mark dolan show. so, that's interesting, probably shouldn't have smear have done it whilst my smear test, anyway, why did she test, but anyway, why did she recognise you during that? >> did i not seen on >> what? what did i not seen on previous shows? should have previous shows? i should have been yeah so that's been warned. yeah so that's that's but no, i mean, that's good. but no, i mean, obviously not perfect. obviously they're not perfect. and, you know, they, they've beenin and, you know, they, they've been in dire straits for a long time. i cannot thank him enough

for all the medical support and help. i've, you know, i've always got support from always got good support from them. they're them. probably see if they're watching they, watching gp news. they, like, get in a fast track there. get me in a fast track there. they don't. i'm just joking, but these deaths , it is really these deaths, it is really worrying needs worrying because that that needs to be addressed. why has this happened that isn't acceptable. >> mean , by the looks of it, >> i mean, by the looks of it, this is not talking about malpractice waiting malpractice issues. waiting lists. yes, waiting. you are waiting to treated and you waiting to be treated and you die treated. waiting to be treated and you die know, treated. waiting to be treated and you die know, i treated. waiting to be treated and you die know, i think ted. a >> i know, but i think that's a fall from a fall over from, fall back from a fall over from, covid because so many things got delayed. >> you know, i had an op that got delayed massively by a year. it was quite serious, so that's continuing . and they're kind of continuing. and they're kind of playing have playing catch up. so i have a lot of sympathy with doctors and nurses, but something something is not right and i don't i honestly don't know what the answer is, you know, you can't keep throwing money at it . i keep throwing money at it. i don't think that's that's worked effectively. yeah so far, but i do i do think there is something that needs to be done . i just that needs to be done. i just don't know what it is. >> yeah. mean, wayne, i

>> yeah. i mean, wayne, i remember had ability to remember we had the ability to p0p remember we had the ability to pop some nightingale pop up some nightingale hospitals pop up some nightingale hospitathere's one to staff shame there's no one to staff them. could use shame there's no one to staff them.for could use shame there's no one to staff them.for while. could use them for a while. >> well , i them for a while. >> well, i mean, i've been to most hospitals. i've got a hip replacement. i tore my medial ligament. i had a never mind an hernia cancer. i've hernia and prostate cancer. i've had . had the lot basically. >> are we playing top trumps? >> are we playing top trumps? >> i think i used to be taller, actually. >> i be thinner. yeah >> i should be thinner. yeah >> i should be thinner. yeah >> what were the waiting list like for. >> you know, my latest experience i cracked ribs experience was i cracked my ribs and. thrown into a. and. well, i got thrown into a. never mind. we won't talk about that. no, it's just perfectly all right. side of a bath, a steel bath, so my name here is getting more and more violent. >> i'll have a word for you. yeah. >> what? it is, isn't it? yeah. so, went and i was there so, and i went and i was there three hours, and there was only five of us waiting, but it seemed like i walked to a room and there was a lecture going on for the nurses at a&e. and then we were visited by people from the wards who were obviously in the wards who were obviously in the wrong block. but the people that i said, you should take this guy back to his ward with

his blanket because these people, he's interrupting these people, he's interrupting these people and they were people in pain. and she said , oh, i can't pain. and she said, oh, i can't do that part of the hospital. so ihave do that part of the hospital. so i have stay here now. that's i have to stay here now. that's ridiculous. i think well. ridiculous. i think as well. and when gave me my x ray, i when they gave me my x ray, i was still waiting there and i knew i had to have a blood test as well. and i said, well, what about if i have the blood test now? then i won't be here so long after you've seen the results of the x ray. and i went, oh, good idea. so they hadnt went, oh, good idea. so they hadn't before. hadn't thought of that before. and the guy who was the and the guy who was who was the hospital? i think hospital? i mean, i think they're wonderful, don't get me wrong. but this is my last experience, and this is why this is the doctor is happening. and the doctor said , quick, let's run the said, quick, let's run to the bay. said, can't . and he bay. i said, i can't. and he said, in case i lose my bay to examine you . examine you. >> goodness. yeah. >> goodness. yeah. >> terrifying. so that was what i knew . i knew. >> but i mean, we talk about waiting lists all the time, but this really it home, this this really brings it home, doesn't this this really brings it home, doesn really i this this really brings it home, doesnreally i think this this really brings it home, doesn really i think that, >> it really does. i think that, i >> it really does. i think that, l , >> it really does. i think that, i , we have to it again. i mean, we have to say it again. 250 every week 250 people die every week

because of waiting lists in accident and emergency. this is more than a scandal. this is disgusting. and i i'll caveat what i'm about to say with the statement kudos to anybody who's still sticking it out in the nhs and helping people and working, because you could be getting more in private . but i'm more money in private. but i'm sick to death of people saying, you how you know, talking about how their dad's life was saved by their dad's life was saved by the it's national the nhs. it's the national health course it's health service, of course it's going some lives. it's going to save some lives. it's not are dying. not working. people are dying. they they're staying on on stretchers corridors stretchers in hospital corridors . and the system simply isn't working the way it's supposed to be. people who have been paying into their entire into this system their entire lives elderly , need lives are now elderly, need support and can't get it. and these people it will these are the people it will fall on the hardest. the people without health care, without private health care, the people networks, without private health care, the peoplshould networks, without private health care, the peoplshould protests|etworks, without private health care, the peoplshould protests in works, there should be protests in trafalgar square over this. >> whenever we use the phrase paying >> whenever we use the phrase paying in, though , we need to paying in, though, we need to remember, like the reality isn't that there was a savings pot and at some you cash this at some point you will cash this in. time when you were in. at this time when you were paying paying it in, you were paying

for people for the treatment that people older getting. and older than you were getting. and now problem the funds now the problem is the funds aren't your aren't available for your treatment. reached treatment. now you've reached that the solution a that age, so is the solution a different to what st giles' says it is throwing money at it. if more money is needed? >> i think think the >> well, i think i think the point made that point that was made is that the system working. we need to system isn't working. we need to streamline it. we're paying far too money for things which too much money for things which which don't cost as much in the private , and i don't private sector, and i don't think money it can think throwing money at it can help. i think we need a complete revamp, some elements of it might even need to be privatised. it's got that bad. >> i just think that , you know, >> i just think that, you know, i think we never listen to the doctors and nurses and every time i speak to doctors, they always like they have a solution, which always forget solution, which i always forget when come the show. and when i come on the show. and i think, well, don't worry, think, oh, well, don't worry, i'll it on the show, i'll talk about it on the show, but it's we're not listening to what just what they need. and we just think, just think, oh, this is we're just throwing money. not, throwing money. we're not, you're throwing money. we're not, you ae throwing money. we're not, you a systematic way of. but i not a systematic way of. but i think you're alluding to we should all perhaps pay for, we are paying for it. we are paying for but mean, terms of

for it. but i mean, in terms of private, which obviously not private, which is obviously not in everyone's i think in everyone's reach, and i think it'd terrible if the it'd be a terrible shame if the nhs, we also do have a system at the where people the moment where some people go private parts private, so some parts of the health provision health care provision of this nafion health care provision of this nation are private. >> well, it's almost two tiered. nation are private. >> thel, it's almost two tiered. nation are private. >> thel, it's alwho: two tiered. nation are private. >> thel, it's alwho can» tiered. nation are private. >> thel, it's alwho can affordi. nation are private. >> thel, it's alwho can afford it >> the people who can afford it are getting decent health care. they have they can see their gps. we have to rely on ever increasing. i . to rely on ever increasing. i. the system currently isn't working and we're not getting what we're paying we're what we're paying for. we're paying what we're paying for. we're paying of ni what we're paying for. we're paying of n! and paying a lot of money in n! and where is it going to? you go to a&e and you have to sit there for 5 or 6 hours, and it's got to the stage where you don't go unless serious unless it's really serious because well, because you think, oh, well, they're me there. they're going to keep me there. all night, aren't they? >> a strange >> well, this is a strange thing. sit in there 5 thing. i did sit in there for 5 or hours. absolutely or 6 hours. it was absolutely packed and i didn't mind, but i just that was packed and i didn't mind, but i ju bit that was packed and i didn't mind, but i ju bit more that was packed and i didn't mind, but i ju bit more serious that was packed and i didn't mind, but i ju bit more serious have hat was packed and i didn't mind, but i jubit more serious have gotwas a bit more serious have got heart whatever they a bit more serious have got heart have whatever they a bit more serious have got heart have been,|atever they a bit more serious have got heart have been, because 1ey a bit more serious have got heart have been, because there would have been, because there is process where is a there is a process where those serious cases go those the more serious cases go in so this although still >> so if this although still health makes feel health related, makes us feel a bit can go to bit happier, we can go to the front the mirror with front page of the mirror with king charles easter service. king charles at easter service. king charles at easter service. king and king show of strength and getting supportive words

getting some supportive words as well. shouting, that was well. someone shouting, that was it, get well soon, someone shouted and stay strong! it's i mean, it's been quite an uplifting video to watch. i'm not. i'm in no way normally mr monarchist kind of guy, but yeah, it was nice, wasn't it, to watch this video. sajeela. >> what do you think i think it's lovely. >> i think it's, that he's >> i think it's, great that he's come for easter weekend and come out for easter weekend and it shows his human side. and i think , i think his mum would be think, i think his mum would be proud him, actually, because proud of him, actually, because that's a very queen to do. that's a very queen thing to do. queen would have done queen elizabeth would have done something , but yeah, something similar, but yeah, wayne, been a obsessed wayne, we've been a bit obsessed with seeing the royals, though, as if we somehow have a stake. it it's almost like we treat it. we treat royals worse we treat, treat the royals worse than for so we treat, treat the royals worse tha demand for so we treat, treat the royals worse tha demand see for so we treat, treat the royals worse tha demand see them r so we treat, treat the royals worse tha demand see them all so we treat, treat the royals worse tha demand see them all the we treat, treat the royals worse tha demancwhene them all the we treat, treat the royals worse tha demancwhen they're all the we treat, treat the royals worse tha demancwhen they're ill. the time, even when they're ill. >> i think get them >> no, i think we just get them at times year at certain times of the year automatically . automatically. >> you know, like christmas speech, 3:00. it's always traditional to watch the traditional to sit and watch the speech. wouldn't be christmas speech. it wouldn't be christmas without speech at without seeing the speech at 3:00 for ten minutes. >> if they've got health reasons to take a bit of time off. we

all time off, don't we? to take a bit of time off. we all well, time off, don't we? to take a bit of time off. we all well, i time off, don't we? to take a bit of time off. we all well, i juste off, don't we? to take a bit of time off. we all well, i just think don't we? to take a bit of time off. we all well, i just think that. we? >> well, i just think that. well, he though, hasn't he? well, he has, though, hasn't he? >> is in >> you know, it is in our interest to know he's interest to know whether he's dying be dying or if he's going to be cured . and literally. and this cured. and literally. and this is a show of hands to say i'm all right, jack. you see, and i think that's important for the pubuc think that's important for the public to know. and a lot of them are royalists and follow them are royalists and follow the crown all their lives. and for them , this is a sign of for them, this is a sign of thumbs up. >> yeah. well i myself am a royalist, and i have to say, long live the king. it's great news that he's out. he's someone who's got , news that he's out. he's someone who's got, hundreds if not thousands of hours of public duty since. since he was young, under his belt. and he's he's going to want to come out and see people shake hands and show that he's okay because he understands that he's a figurehead for the country. and people. people look to him for inspiration, especially at at this of easter, we use this time of easter, when we use that it's in the public that phrase, it's in the public interest, and it's one of those where the actual definition of pubuc where the actual definition of public versus public interest versus the pubuc public are interested in, it comes not necessarily just

comes down not necessarily just with the king, but the prince of wales when we were wales as well. when we were talking about people's, i mean, not conspiracy theories not just the conspiracy theories online, but people's obsession with finding out haven't we with finding out why haven't we found ? yes, the found out more? yes, the public's interested, but it's not public not actually in the public interest to know this, is it. >> we don't have a right. it's none of their business. quite frankly. >> it's not what goes on on the inner side of a family is that family's business. and my family wouldn't want to know what my aunfs wouldn't want to know what my aunt's by secretly finding aunt's doing by secretly finding out what she's. >> agree with but >> yes, i agree with you, but it's a bit of a catch 22 because for the for the royals to remain relevant and popular, they kind of depend on our interest and to some extent. and so this is always going to bubble over every once in a while. there is genuine yeah, but genuine interest. yeah, but i think seen over the think what we've seen over the last couple of weeks with, with the conspiracy theories and the trolling, some people need to get a life, actually. yeah >> i mean, who knows how many of them are bots, but some of it's been terrible. so what do you

think about this? do we have a right to know information? obviously today is a happy one. we've the pressing the we've seen the king pressing the flesh, and flesh, looking healthy and that's flesh, looking healthy and tha but there could have played flesh, looking healthy and tha idifferently.»uld have played flesh, looking healthy and tha idifferently. i ld have played flesh, looking healthy and tha idifferently. i thinkfe played flesh, looking healthy and tha idifferently. i think the .ayed this differently. i think the palace got to take some palace has got to take some blame on this as well. and i do love the royal family, by the way, got take way, the palace has got to take some was some blame because it was the way that they pitched it all. like, you know, she's she's had a big operation. we don't know what the operation is. and it was, the was, you know, and then the photo a lot they've photo there was a lot they've they've of they've kind of been a part of a lot errors. then of lot of errors. and then of course, course, with the way course, of course, with the way that going course, of course, with the way th.start going course, of course, with the way th.start you going course, of course, with the way th.start you know, going to start up, you know, conspiracy when conspiracy theories. and when she told us, it she came out and she told us, it all made sense. absolutely. she needed for herself to needed time out for herself to understand what was happening then her boys. then to explain it to her boys. but ultimately, they are the royal what just royal family. and what you just said beginning, is said at the beginning, which is like, we are funding said at the beginning, which is like, as we are funding said at the beginning, which is like, as well. we are funding said at the beginning, which is like, as well. there re funding said at the beginning, which is like, as well. there is funding said at the beginning, which is like, as well. there is there 1g said at the beginning, which is like, as well. there is there is them as well. there is there is a entitled to some a you're entitled to some private life. of course you are. but then don't go to us with giving us bits of stuff and then letting all letting the public make all sorts of assumptions. >> look at >> well, take a quick look at the we i don't >> well, take a quick look at the how we i don't >> well, take a quick look at the how wdetails don't >> well, take a quick look at the how wdetails we've got know how much, details we've got on but it's on this one, but it's fascinating to

fascinating headline plan to scrap non—dom is full scrap non—dom tax status is full of super rich . but of loopholes for super rich. but this analysis finds this is labour analysis finds that family could save that sunaks family could save almost 250 million. that'd be a handy one. it's not bad, joseph. you reckon? >> well, i think that there is always, unfortunately, going to be loopholes for the super rich , be loopholes for the super rich, the super rich fund, all of the main parties , and it main political parties, and it call me an old cynic, but in the same way that it benefits the conservatives, it will benefit labour as well. >> you think there's as much money coming in from the super rich to labour? >> that goes well, i think. i think that lot of think that there's a lot of people are rich who do people who are super rich who do support labour. they're champagne lack of champagne socialists for lack of a better phrase, and, it serves them to have everything which comes with a labour government, you know, high, high spending, cheap labour, so there will always remain these loopholes . i always remain these loopholes. i can't see labour closing them. >> so the interesting thing about the changing of non—dom status, anyway, was that's where

labour planning getting labour were planning on getting some from. was the some money from. that was the jeremy removing that jeremy hunt win removing that money a potential saving jeremy hunt win removing that money plan a potential saving jeremy hunt win removing that money plan to potential saving jeremy hunt win removing that money plan to make ial saving jeremy hunt win removing that money plan to make ifl saving jeremy hunt win removing that money plan to make if and ing jeremy hunt win removing that money plan to make if and when labour plan to make if and when they win the election. >> i think they i think that again, it's all about loopholes and i think this needs to go. i don't think i don't think it's fair. i don't think it's right, especially when you see people like you've especially when you see people like pm's you've especially when you see people like pm's of you've especially when you see people like pm's of his you've especially when you see people like pm's of his countryu've got the pm's of his country and his are how much did you his family are how much did you just say 200 and 250 million. >> that's that's that's just obscene. it's more than i'll save you know, it is considerably more than i'll save. >> but i do get the £0.02 off insurance, so we should all be well , a little bit insurance, so we should all be well, a little bit happy with that, we? well, a little bit happy with tha well, we? well, a little bit happy with tha well, if we? well, a little bit happy with tha well, if they ve? well, a little bit happy with tha well, if they don't give >> well, if they don't give them loopholes, it'll be like a friend mine. leave friend of mine. they leave the country and don't pay any tax here. >> yeah, but the loopholes always benefit the rich. they never benefit the people. and. and a go at like, and yet we'll have a go at like, you benefit scroungers. you know, benefit scroungers. you they the, you know, you know they the, you know, like, exploiting the system, blah, blah blah. and they're the people that we go after, and yet we're going have we're just going to have a little few. oh yeah. well, you

know, this know, we're going to this happens. with you going, know, we're going to this hap it ns. with you going, know, we're going to this hap it ns. makeswith you going, know, we're going to this hap it ns. makes me! you going, know, we're going to this hap it ns. makes me reallyioing, but it just makes me really angry. yes angry. it's unacceptable. yes but it's the way of keeping the rich people in england . rich people in england. >> but i just give it all these loopholes and making tax reductions , else they'd all just reductions, else they'd all just get up and leave. we'll have nobody paying tax . nobody paying tax. >> the rich people out there should give some of their should give me some of their money. has me money. yeah this has made me think good money money. yeah this has made me thibe good money money. yeah this has made me thibe made good money money. yeah this has made me thibe made in good money money. yeah this has made me thibe made in dancing money to be made in the dancing industry, protecting some loopholes . loopholes. >> hello. >> hello. >> all your money is not technically offshore, it technically offshore, but it is in coming up, more in the terms coming up, more of tomorrow's pages tomorrow's newspaper front pages and live reaction in the studio from our top pundits. and they'll be nominating their headune they'll be nominating their headline heroes and back page zeroes day . this is mark zeroes of the day. this is mark dolan tonight on gb news with me, steven.

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>> steven. alan, let's get to some of your emails on a&e. waiting list. david says too many wasters up at many time wasters turning up at a&e . the triage systems are a&e. the triage systems are incompetent staff not incompetent and staff not utilised efficiently. a personal experience of waiting all night and never getting to see a real doctor. after my chat with ann widdecombe earlier, paul says the expected wipe—out of the conservative party is a self—inflicted injury which has been the behaviour self—inflicted injury which has betheir the behaviour self—inflicted injury which has betheir mps the behaviour self—inflicted injury which has betheir mps on behaviour self—inflicted injury which has betheir mps on our1aviour of their own mps on our discussion about not feeding pets chocolate, helen says thank you. will will find they must. oh thank you. so that makes more sense. i thought you were just getting praise for the getting a little praise for the show , but that never happens show, but that never happens when i'm thank will when i'm on. thank you. will find must not eat raisins find they must not eat raisins also, such as , in hot cross also, such as, in hot cross buns. and also you can get raisins . in chocolate. so you raisins. in chocolate. so you really do want to back off that one. that's my snack on the way home planned. thanks for that, we'll move on to front pages

we'll move on to the front pages as with, our, our as we take a look with, our, our panel as we take a look with, our, our panel, to the front page as we take a look with, our, our pathe to the front page as we take a look with, our, our pathe express,) the front page as we take a look with, our, our pathe express, whereront page as we take a look with, our, our pathe express, where they've e of the express, where they've got get got their headline, get well soon, i'm doing soon, king jokes. i'm doing my best. soon, king jokes. i'm doing my bethe daily telegraph is for of the daily telegraph is in for us look at council tax us to take a look at council tax to double for 80% of second homes, more than 150 councils will impose inflated levy in a move affecting 130,000 properties to the panel. a quick one on this one. is this in any way . going to help the housing crisis? >> i've got no idea. i don't have any sympathy with people who've got two homes. i'm obviously cherry picking obviously i'm cherry picking because doesn't, if it because if it doesn't, if it doesn't me, then not. doesn't affect me, then i'm not. not, your doesn't affect me, then i'm not. not, home your doesn't affect me, then i'm not. not, home all your doesn't affect me, then i'm not. not, home all a your doesn't affect me, then i'm not. not, home all a sudden, second home all of a sudden, well, whilst well, come home whilst you change accordingly. yes. >> yeah , well, wayne, any >> yeah, well, wayne, any thoughts on this one? >> if i go to second home, it wouldn't be in this country, so i'm not bothered. wouldn't be in this country, so i'm oh, bothered. wouldn't be in this country, so i'm oh, that's red. wouldn't be in this country, so i'm oh, that's one to it >> oh, that's one way to look it up well. >> oh, that's one way to look it up and ell. >> oh, that's one way to look it up and these numbers that we're >> and these numbers that we're looking properties, >> and these numbers that we're looking going properties, >> and these numbers that we're looking going to properties, >> and these numbers that we're looking going to fnotarties, >> and these numbers that we're looking going to fnot going >> and these numbers that we're lo> and these numbers that we're lo> not >> i just hope it's not a gimmick which which unfortunately the unfortunately will hit the middle but i'm middle class hardest, but i'm all for people who have extra paying all for people who have extra paying a little bit extra .

paying a little bit extra. >> i think doubling it is crazy. i mean, just add a little bit more, you know, just saying. double ruthless, double it. it's just ruthless, isn't it? >> well, now we've been. we'll move on to another easter related one. we've been searching the weirdest related one. we've been searchitraditions weirdest related one. we've been searchitraditions around st easter traditions around the world. and let me tell you, pretty going pretty weird. oh, so i'm going to my on which to be quizzing my panel on which of i'm about to of these traditions i'm about to list. false? we list. our true or false? we start with poland, where children encouraged children are encouraged to soak passers buckets, water, passers by with buckets, water, pistols and hoses. true or false? is that an actual way to. >> i would really like that to be true, so would i. >> yeah, i'm going to go true on that. i'm going to it is true historically, a historically, it meant that a woman once woman could conceive kids once soaked water. woman could conceive kids once soa now, water. woman could conceive kids once soa now, i'm water. woman could conceive kids once soa now, i'm noter. an expert >> now, i'm not a not an expert in gynaecological arts, but in the gynaecological arts, but i don't think that's true. >> to be wet. but not >> i've got to be wet. but not necessarily well, water. necessarily with, well, water. chilly families, dig up their dead relatives and dance with their bones to symbolise jesus resurrecting true or, well , it resurrecting true or, well, it sounds good, but i don't believe

it. >> no, i'll say false. >> no, i'll say false. >> i'm going with false. yes, it is false. okay this is a tradition in madagascar, though. which families do . every few which families do. every few years to maintain a connection with their deceased loved ones. isn't papua new isn't that beautiful, papua new guinea hide cigarettes guinea people hide cigarettes in trees after trees near churches after the traditional easter service, a worshippers out and search worshippers go out and search for the false. >> that's not. >> that's not. >> that's not biblical. i think that's. >> you think it's true? i think it's true, i don't false indonesia has a big smoking culture, from what i understand. >> oh it? >> oh does it? >> oh does it? >> it's true. you're >> yeah. it's true. you're right. much. you that right. very much. you got that right. congratulations. we all know bad for know chocolate is bad for you. >> maybe better. >> so maybe it's a better. >> so maybe it's a better. >> better. yeah then >> it's a better. yeah then cigarettes can kill. it's yeah. >> as long as there's no sugar in it. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> czech republic relatives gently other with gently whip each other with sticks with ribbons. sticks decorated with ribbons. >> that sounds good to me . i >> oh, that sounds good to me. i like it to be true. >> we can have that club in prague. >> oh , well, i'm going next >> oh, well, i'm going next week. tell me a couple of truths i >> -- >> i'm going for true, true, true. >> it is true , this is, a way

>> it is true, this is, a way that they give each other good health, apparently. so it's time for headline heroes and back page zeros. we go to sedula. what are you going to give us first? >> oh, what are you asking first? headline hero. oh, my headune first? headline hero. oh, my headline hero has got a headline hero has got to be a king charles, like a chip off the old block. he's. you know, he's. yeah, it's it was nice video. he does look well, actually. and it reminds me when we did penn gate how ill he looked. have been we did penn gate how ill he looifeeling have been we did penn gate how ill he looifeeling too have been we did penn gate how ill he looifeeling too feeling 1ave been we did penn gate how ill he looifeeling too feeling poorlyeen not feeling too feeling poorly then, so. yeah. yeah, he's my hero. >> surely we've all forgiven pengzu, haven't we? for those of us you know, us who've, you know, lost a relative, snippy relative, i got a bit snippy about pens having fill. in about pens having to fill. in forms when my parents passed away, so i think that's what i'm saying. >> he might have been in pain , >> he might have been in pain, and that's why he was a bit irritable. so that i think that's. so better that's. he looks so much better then. then. then. yeah, than he did then. >> i'm irritable about >> oh, i'm still irritable about pens, wayne, what are you going? >> mine's the same in a way, but

it's wales. it's princess of wales. it's catherine, to it's princess of wales. it's cati up ne, to it's princess of wales. it's catiup with to it's princess of wales. it's catiup with so to it's princess of wales. it's catiup with so much to it's princess of wales. it's catiup with so much week. put up with so much this week. the else. the photograph, everything else. and, said earlier the photograph, everything else. and, you said earlier the photograph, everything else. and, you know, said earlier the photograph, everything else. and, you know, sthere'slier that, you know, if there's something be something you don't want to be known, that's not life threatening. and it's, know, known, that's not life thretoening. and it's, know, known, that's not life thre to be g. and it's, know, known, that's not life thre to be exposed, s, know, known, that's not life thre to be exposed, then know, has to be exposed, then you should keep in the should be able to keep it in the family. all this family. and i think all this i don't think you're unwell don't think if you're unwell and have got something like cancer, it helps. i've heard that actually get worse actually cancer can get worse with worry and irritation. >> yeah, and headline hero. yosef. david, what are you going to give us? >> is the fearless >> so mine is the fearless iranian journalist pooja zarati, who was stabbed outside his home in wimbledon. he's been reporting regime . and in reporting on the regime. and in a time when journalistic integrity is at a premium, this man is speaking his beliefs . man is speaking his beliefs. even in the face of threats and actions. >> that's good indeed . right? >> that's good indeed. right? now, let's take your suggestions for the back page zero, it's going tory government going to be the tory government for the of transparency and for the lack of transparency and more the foreign more lies because the foreign office received official legal advice that the israel has broken international humanitarian law and the government has not announced it. they're ignoring legal advice, government has not announced it. thejtheyjnoring legal advice, government has not announced it.

thejthey completely|l advice, government has not announced it. thejthey completely continue to and they completely continue to be complicit in the genocide that's happening in gaza. >> yeah. you don't like the tories. >> you should join reform, wayne, what are you going to go for? >> well, it's the russian government for just arresting >> well, it's the russian government forjust arresting a government for just arresting a guy who's gay. he's gay guy who's gay. he's got a gay bar and he was having a drag show, arrested him. show, and they've arrested him. and unfortunately, you know, that all over that is going on all over russia. i remember when it was legalised at one point and i think they putin only legalised it to find out where they are so you them and them it to find out where they are so yojail them and them it to find out where they are so yojail , them and them it to find out where they are so yojail , it's them and them it to find out where they are so yojail , it's and1em and them it to find out where they are so yojail , it's and also and them it to find out where they are so yojail , it's and also a d them it to find out where they are so yojail , it's and also a bad them in jail, it's and also a bad luck guy because or guy, because it was right at the airport. so he was obviously leaving the country to get away. what a bummer, yosef phil morrish bummer, the yosef phil morrish me, i thought it was terrible . me, i thought it was terrible. my zero or the other conspiracy theorists and trolls who have been hounding our royal family relentlessly , some people, do relentlessly, some people, do have a public platform. people

are interested in their lives, but there are times when we all need privacy and time with our family. so >> yes. >> yes. >> well, you can take your pick of those, yourself at home. thank you for your company tonight. mark dolan is back on friday with friday friday at 8 pm. with friday night on the night live headliners is on the way a good one. happy way next. have a good one. happy easter. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on . gb news. on. gb news. >> hello. welcome to your latest gb news weather. it's been fairly sunny across the northern half of the uk. we've seen increasing cloud in the south and we're going to see further rain in the few rain push in over the next few hours. bigger hours. but looking at the bigger picture, low pressure dominates at . it does mean at the moment. it does mean further showers and rain is on the . we've got some heavy the way. we've got some heavy rain this evening across southern of england and

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gb news. >> good evening. the top stories this hour. king charles has made his first major public appearance since his cancer diagnosis . appearance since his cancer diagnosis. he's joined by appearance since his cancer diagnosis . he's joined by the diagnosis. he's joined by the queen. he smiled and waved as he left an easter sunday service at saint chapel in saint george's chapel in windsor. and he went on to greet the crowds . a member of the the crowds. a member of the pubuc the crowds. a member of the public told the king to keep going strong and others said he looked well. the prince and princess of wales missed the service as catherine continues her cancer treatment . meanwhile, her cancer treatment. meanwhile, the archbishop of canterbury