well. very good morning to you. it's half past nine on tuesday, april the 2nd. this is britain's newsroom on gb news. with me. ben leo in for andrew pierce and the return of bev turner. >> good morning. thank you very much for joining >> good morning. thank you very much forjoining us. so rishi sunak throws his support behind jk rowling in her battle against scotland's new hate crime law. she's gone as far as to challenge the police to arrest her. good for her. >> and union jack flag another

woke rebrand of a flag. team gb's union jack has turned pink and purple on a supporter's flag for the paris olympics. will it make it onto the final official kit? let make it onto the final official kit.7 let us make it onto the final official kit? let us know your views and hughes hefty salary despite being taken off air last year, the bbc's huw edwards is still expected to be the highest paid newsreader when the annual salary salary list is revealed this year and childcare . rollout this year and childcare. rollout parents are set to receive more support in the government's new funding package. but is it enough? >> yes, the government says working parents will qualify for up to £7,000 worth a year of free childcare with this huge rollout. but if you have a two year old today, you now qualify. but will you be able to get a place and ashamed of anti—semitism? >> the former home secretary, suella braverman , has blasted suella braverman, has blasted anti—jewish behaviour in britain

let -- let us know your thoughts this morning on all our talking points. the huw edwards one is tncky. points. the huw edwards one is tricky . he hasn't been found tricky. he hasn't been found guilty of anything. let's remember that he's currently resting in an institute, as far as we know, for support with his mental health, which is why he can't. >> the argument is, how long do you go on paying him 430 k a year? contracts when? you go on paying him 430 k a year? right.1tracts when? you go on paying him 430 k a year? right. so cts when? you go on paying him 430 k a year? right. so that's when? you go on paying him 430 k a year? right. so that's another? you go on paying him 430 k a ye�*millionlt. so that's another? you go on paying him 430 k a ye�*million forso that's another? you go on paying him 430 k a ye�*million for doing 's another? you go on paying him 430 k a ye�*million for doing nothing. er? £1 million for doing nothing. >> £9 million of your money at home. of course it does seem wrong, but really, should a man who is struggling with his mental health not be paid his salary because then he would take the bbc to court and they might end up paying him more. what a mess. gb views at gb news. com is the email address. that and a lot more. first though, latest news though, the very latest news with francis. with sam francis. >> bev and ben thank you very

much. good morning from the gb newsroom. it'sjust much. good morning from the gb newsroom. it's just gone half past nine and leading the news this morning. aid workers from here britain and australia here in britain and australia are seven people are among seven people understood to have been killed in an ngo has described as in what an ngo has described as an israeli airstrike in gaza . an israeli airstrike in gaza. they were travelling in two armoured cars marked with the world central kitchen logo, and coordinated their movements with the defence forces, the israeli defence forces, others understand, the israeli defence forces, others palestiniansderstand, the israeli defence forces, others palestiniansderstpeople include palestinians and people from . israel from the us and poland. israel says it is now conducting a thorough review of that incident, and the foreign office here in the uk it's aware here in the uk says it's aware of reports. the australian of those reports. the australian prime anthony prime minister, anthony albanese, has confirmed the death of a 44 year old australian aid worker and said he expects to see full accountability for their deaths . accountability for their deaths. >> we certainly have already contacted the israeli government directly. we are contacting the israeli ambassador, to ask for,

accountable city here, the truth is that that this is beyond, beyond any reasonable circumstances. someone going about providing aid and humanity , an assistance should lose their life . their life. >> well, as we've been hearing this morning, the prime minister is now backing jk rowling after she criticised a new hate crime law in scotland. it came into force yesterday and outlaws hatred against people on certain grounds , including age, grounds, including age, disability, sexuality and people who are transgender. but the author says the law risks silencing genuine debate on issues around gender and women's rights. rishi sunak backs those concerns . he says that people concerns. he says that people should not be criminalised for stating simple facts on biology , stating simple facts on biology, and labour has today launched a new campaign that it calls the cost of chaos, aimed at exposing

the government's economic policies in the lead up to the next election . the campaign next election. the campaign website, which goes live today, aims to show the cost of decisions made by the government like scrapping parts of the hs2 rail project. sir keir starmers party, though, claims the government spent more than government has spent more than £8 on what calls £8 billion on what he calls wasted projects. under rishi sunak's leadership, the government in response, says that the website is a waste of time and called on labour to devote more attention to setting out its own plans as. devote more attention to setting out its own plans as . those are out its own plans as. those are the latest headlines from gb the latest headlines from the gb newsroom for now, you can of course sign up to gb news alerts. just the code on alerts. just scan the code on your gb news. your screen or go to gb news. com slash alerts. now though , com slash alerts. now though, it's back to ben and . bev. it's back to ben and. bev. >> all right good morning. it's 934. welcome to britain's newsroom on gb news with me bev turner and ben leo sitting in for andrew pierce is on his easter holidays. yes. >> welcome back. hope you had a

pleasant bank holiday weekend. was your easter as was your easter just as pleasant? i like i've been pleasant? i feel like i've been hit by a this morning. pleasant? i feel like i've been hit you this morning. pleasant? i feel like i've been hit you tithisforning. pleasant? i feel like i've been hit you tithisfornilof our >> you know, this lack of our sleep. feel like i've got two sleep. i feel like i've got two of like i've got jet of us. i feel like i've got jet lag. we had a lovely weekend. family weekend, big birthdays, wonderful. chocolate. family weekend, big birthdays, wonder you chocolate. family weekend, big birthdays, wonder you looking, hocolate. family weekend, big birthdays, wonder you looking, hocola'and >> are you looking, bright and vibrant to go? >> are you looking, bright and vibrifeeling to go? >> are you looking, bright and vibrifeeling . to go? >> are you looking, bright and vibrifeeling . it, to go? >> are you looking, bright and vibrifeeling . it, but to go? >> are you looking, bright and vibrifeeling . it, but here to go? >> are you looking, bright and vibrifeeling . it, but here we jo? >> are you looking, bright and vibrifeeling . it, but here we go. not feeling. it, but here we go. >> let's go. >> let's go. >> okay, right. let's crack on with our first story. the scottish government's new hate crime and public order act has come and it's come into effect, and it's caused stir its first caused a huge stir in its first 24 hours. nato. >> prime minister, rishi >> so the prime minister, rishi sunak, said that people >> so the prime minister, rishi sunak, not said that people >> so the prime minister, rishi sunak, not be d that people >> so the prime minister, rishi sunak, not be criminalised; should not be criminalised for stating biology stating simple facts on biology as rowling in her as he backed jk rowling in her criticism new scottish hate criticism of new scottish hate crime laws. >> w- >> scotland's first minister, humza the humza yousaf, has insisted the law empower victims of law will empower victims of hatred public hatred whilst maintaining public freedom . freedom of expression. >> so are snp successfully >> so are the snp successfully tackling prejudice here? are they protecting enough people of, with certain characteristics? i think this is a potentially tyrannical . piece

a potentially tyrannical. piece of legislation. let's discuss it now with lgbtq activist peter tatchell and women's rights activist eva comrie. good morning to you both, peter. just explain us this is a good explain to us why this is a good piece. it a good piece of piece. is it a good piece of legislation? fact, in your legislation? in fact, in your opinion ? opinion? >> well, the aim of the legislation is to protect people against hate . and that is a good against hate. and that is a good thing, because hate can be very damaging to people both psychologically and emotionally. and course, physically, we and of course, physically, we have clear, though , that have to be clear, though, that this legislation merely extends the race hate laws to other protected characteristics like the hatred based on, religion, disability . age, sexuality and disability. age, sexuality and so on. what it doesn't do is extend it to women who are victims of hate , or travelling victims of hate, or travelling communities who are also victims of hate. so i think on that score, the legislation shows support. i don't shores fort shores short. i don't shores falls short. i don't understand why the scottish government hasn't in particular

included within this included women within this legislation. now it says that it will extend protection to women under a new misogyny bill, but that a long time that has been a long time coming, and would the coming, and i would urge the scottish government to speed up the legislation of that misogyny bill and i'd also just question why should women be excluded from a comprehensive hate crime law and protected in a separate law? separate is not equal . law? separate is not equal. women should have been included in that legislation that came into force yesterday. and of course, there should be the new, wider, broader bill as well. >> eva , woman to woman. i don't >> eva, woman to woman. i don't feel like i necessarily want to be included on this bill. i can choose to be offended if somebody say some mean words to me, or i can choose not to be offended, can't i? >> well, the difficulty that we have here with this legislation is that although peter is absolutely correct in saying that to protect that we have to protect everybody, particularly everybody, but particularly

minorities against hate, there is no evidence in scotland that hate crime is on the rise. in fact, contrary to what our first minister, humza yousaf, said yesterday, the latest hate crime figures for scotland show generally a decrease , so one generally a decrease, so one would whether there is would question whether there is any for legislation at any need for this legislation at all. if there is a need for this legislation , then women legislation, then women certainly should be protected because at the moment, under this new law, men who choose to cross—dress are protected, women are not. and that really is a pretty awful set of circumstances, especially when we promised law against we were promised a law against misogyny, thus remains misogyny, which thus far remains . in the aether. >> may i suggest that both of you that this this point about protecting women's rights is a bit of herring? what does bit of a red herring? what does hate mean? it's such a flimsy, vague these i mean, vague word these days. i mean, what peter? what are vague word these days. i mean, whatalking peter? what are vague word these days. i mean, whatalking about?:er? what are you talking about? >> well, that is one of >> well, well, that is one of the other the the other flaws in the legislation . in he words, key legislation. in he words, key concepts like hate, prejudice, malice and ill will, all of

which are words in the legislation they are not defined, so they're open to different interpretations by different interpretations by different people. now, it does say that this will depend on the interpretation by a reasonable person . an but even reasonable person. an but even reasonable people have different ideas about what constitutes hate. >> well, peter, the speech, there are some free speech protections. >> it does say that the legislation will not prohibit discussion or criticism of issues. and it also includes the right to shock, disturb or offend . so those are some offend. so those are some safeguards. and that's that's good. that's progress. but again it's all down to interpretation ian.and it's all down to interpretation ian. and we know from other legislation like the public order act with its clause about harassment, alarm and distress, that those are often interpreted very differently by different police officers, different crown prosecution service staff and by different so it does different judges. so it does

leave a bit of a question mark about how exactly this law will be enforced. but i want to emphasise that plan to cut down on hate is a good thing. and what is hate? >> you're saying it again. what do you mean, hate? it means so many different things to different people. this word hate is deliberately vague because it's going to be used in a way to silence free speech. that's what opponents of this, this, this legislation are saying. what does hate mean? you've said this legislation are saying. wagain,es hate mean? you've said this legislation are saying. wagain,es hiyou nean? you've said this legislation are saying. wagain,es hiyou know, you've said this legislation are saying. wagain,es hiyou know, whate said it again, but you know, what does mean? it again, but you know, what doewell,iean? it again, but you know, what doewell, ian? it again, but you know, what doewell, i just explained to you >> well, i just explained to you that i mean, that you didn't really i mean, if if i, if i say to you, if i if i, if i say to you, peter man united are rubbish, are going to that are you going to is that hateful? >> em w- w— e me to, to the, >> can you report me to, to the, to the scottish police for that. >> the legislation >> no, because the legislation says it will not an says that it will not be an offence criticism. to offence to make criticism. to discuss an issue or to shock disturb. >> so if i, if i say trans women are men, is that hateful. >> no, no, that's that's that's an opinion and that is protected under the legislation. >> it's this it's this idea of stirring up hate either, isn't it ? that is concerning. because

it? that is concerning. because if somebody would deem what ben's just said to not just be hateful, but to be encouraging, to be stirring up hatred that is so subjective , love. and it so subjective, love. and it isn't going to stop people having hateful thoughts. i quite like to know who hates who, and i quite like people to feel free to express who they hate. and then i know what i'm dealing with. >> 9 know that a lot of >> well, we know that a lot of women, particularly public women, particularly in public life, to life, are subjected to horrendous organised hate campaigns, on campaigns, particularly on social media, vile, hateful things. i mean, using words i can't use on on this programme. sure, you know, those kinds of that kind of harassment, that kind of sustained harassment against women, using vituperative . and sensationalist vituperative. and sensationalist and really vicious language over and really vicious language over a sustained period that, to me, would constitute hate. but even beyond mere criticism or

discussion of an issue. eva, come in on that. >> hang on, peter , i just want >> hang on, peter, i just want to hear from eva. peter. just eva.eva to hear from eva. peter. just eva. eva comrie. just just comment on that if you would. >> well, the legislation often refers to conduct that is threatening or abusive or insulting, so person is insulting, so that a person is able claim that they have able to claim that they have been insulted and unfortunately, the legislation enables anonymous reports to be made and for people to have non hate crime incidents recorded against them without their knowledge or consent. i think you'll be aware that has already happened that that has already happened to the msp murdo fraser. so i, as a woman who supports scottish independence, find it quite distasteful that unfortunately i'm on the same side as murdo fraser, one of scotland's most famous or infamous unionist msps. so there are innumerable difficulties thrown up by this legislation , not the least of legislation, not the least of which is that women simply are not only not protected, women

are now hugely concerned about vexatious complaints, such as complaints for simply saying that trans women are in fact male. so a colleague of mine, sally hughes , yesterday went to sally hughes, yesterday went to the police office in perth where she used to work. she's a retired cop and she posed some questions asking for advice and guidance in respect of what sentences were now able to use and which had now become banned. the police officer who dealt with her explained that police scotland are in the course of hiring hate crime advisers. now that's news to us. we don't know from where these hate crime advisers have come in. are they internal appointments? are they new jobs to be created ? despite new jobs to be created? despite the fact that the police in scotland claim that they are underfund ? did they do have underfund? did they do not have enough to deal with enough officers to deal with current of crimes, let current substance of crimes, let alone deal with hate crime? now i'm not suggesting that we minimise the issue of hate crime , but i think we should say is put it in context, in the year

2022 to 2023, throughout scotland, there were less than 6000 reports of hate crime. now, those reports do not necessarily lead to convictions, but the population is 5.5 million. hate crime is not the worst or most awful type of crime. on the political agenda in scotland today, but it's the one that is attracting attention. and i wonder why that is when, as i've said earlier, the figures are actually slightly improving. yet to hear some scottish politicians speak, you'd think we were living in a hate filled, hate fuelled country when we're quite, quite the opposite, thank you both so much. >> lgbtq activist peter tatchell and women's rights activist eva comrie. let us what you comrie. let us know what you think at home gbviews@gbnews.com >> i want to know how you become a hate crime advisor. i mean, honestly, this whole thing, this whole piece of legislation, the snp humza yousaf they sound like a bunch of 16 year olds creating , you know, creating some, some

play , you know, creating some, some play politics in their sixth form, the protected characteristics because characteristics now because originally it attributable originally it was attributable to sexual to race, religion, sexual orientation, disability, gender identity. >> if you are intersex , there >> if you are intersex, there are the and as we discussed there, women aren't in this . i'm there, women aren't in this. i'm all right with that. i don't think we need necessarily for the government to be getting involved. says involved. if somebody says something me on the something mean about me on the internet, much the internet, it's pretty much the only who aren't there only people who aren't in there are men. are straight white men. >> well, that's they say >> well, that's because they say that they are the biggest perpetrators of hate crime. and by way , hate and hatred by the way, hate and hatred means nothing. and the thing is absolutely nothing. >> ultimately, once everybody is included in this, we just have to be nice to each other, don't we? >> do you know what? well, yeah, but but most people most but but most people are. most people are thoroughly decent, normal people. some people have different opinions, some people think the opinions of their opponents wrong. opponents are simply wrong. there's from there's a select few from a certain demographic think certain demographic who think that anyone who holds a different inherently different opinion is inherently evil. that's problem, evil. and that's the problem, that violence. that words are violence. >> are violence.

>> words are not violence. violence is violence. up violence is violence. right? up next, former home secretary, next, the former home secretary, suella isn't pulling suella braverman, isn't pulling her punches again. she says that she's of the she's ashamed of the anti—semitism britain. yeah, anti—semitism in britain. yeah, and this comes 48 hours notice after the swastika row happened in london. >> so walk with me because i can point these people out to you. >> again, i was told when >> and again, i was told when i asked that a swastika was not necessarily anti—semitic or disruptive order. disruptive to public order. >> right me i >> everything needs to be taken in it ? in context, doesn't it? >> well, the met insists that that video is part of a wider ten minute interaction. i'd actually quite like to defend that police officer with britain's newsroom

gb news. for good morning. 950. we have got some great stories for you this morning. but first, a former home secretary suella braverman says that she is ashamed by the levels of anti—semitism in britain. and the uk should not row back on its support for israel. >> with swastika

>> yeah, and with the swastika over i'm sure over the weekend, i'm sure you've video with the you've seen that video with the policeman. have we lost control of streets? do the jewish of our streets? do the jewish community we're community feel safe? we're joined chairman of joined now by chairman of national jewish assembly gary ltns. gary . do the ltns. good morning, gary. do the jewish people feel safe in this country? get straight country? then let's get straight to it. >> i think many of them don't quite frankly, i think the levels of anti—semitism have risen catastrophically since the 7th of october. we've seen examples in hospitals, in schools , in universities, in schools, in universities, in businesses of jews being discriminated against. and worst of all, these marches that take place regularly every saturday, which suella braverman would have banned if she'd had the opportunity to do, are helping to hatred across the country. >> we had this incident over the weekend, gary, on these protests that we're seeing every single weekend, pro—palestinian . ian. weekend, pro—palestinian. ian. and there was a conversation between a protester , a between a protester, a pro—israel protester. we assume ,

pro—israel protester. we assume, and one of the police officers. we're just going to have a quick look at it to remind ourselves what happened. i'd like to walk with because can point with me because i can point these to you. these people out to you. >> again, i was when >> and again, i was told when i asked that a swastika was not necessarily anti—semitic or disruptive order. necessarily anti—semitic or dis|that'e order. necessarily anti—semitic or dis|that'e seem der. to me. >> everything needs taken >> everything needs to be taken within the context, doesn't it? >> but a context of why . >> but it's a context of why. why it? why does it? >> does swastika need context? >> what exactly are you? >> what exactly are you? >> so this was the moment this jewish lady complained about seeing placards of swastika. seeing placards of a swastika. she complained to a policeman who stood there swirling his coffee, swigging his coffee, and said, everything needs to be taken in context. what did he mean by that? do you think i'm here? >> i'm not sure he actually knew what he meant by it, but i think the context was a hate march. the context was hatred of jews, hatred of israel . and if anyone hatred of israel. and if anyone thinks that the context could be different, then they're not watching properly. this is not the context of a hindu wedding, because in the hindu religion,

the swastika can be used in a favourable manner, but not in this case whatsoever. what needs to be done is we should follow germany in outlawing the use of the swastika completely and making it a criminal offence to do so. in these circumstances . do so. in these circumstances. >> you see, i was quite reassured by hearing that police officer say that, gary, because too often we leap to a conclusion and a symbol, as you say, can have different meanings in a very even that symbol in different contexts . but was it different contexts. but was it therefore just that that police officer didn't quite understand the context of the march , do you think? >> i think that's quite possible . the context of the march was blindingly obvious, though to most of us, and there is, of course, i don't want to sort of pick on an individual police officer. but there is the issue officer. but there is the issue of training and making sure that all police officers are fit for purpose in terms of doing their jobs. and this means education on certain basic issues like what a swastika is like the

holocaust, and like other instances of anti—semitism. i'm wondering how well trained that particular police officer was andindeed particular police officer was and indeed so many of his colleagues. >> i think you're being very generous there, saying he needs retraining. we've seen week upon week october, these week since october, these marches , people singing from the marches, people singing from the river to the sea, carrying a placard saying houthi rebels turn around. you turn those ships around. you know, you're being very, very generous there. and in actual fact , whether you agree with fact, whether you agree with people like tommy robinson or not, pounced upon by not, he was pounced upon by scores scores of officers scores and scores of officers for breakfast in cafe, for having breakfast in a cafe, and, it may make of and, you know, it may make of that what you will, but it seems to be as suella braverman is saying, there's one rule for one and one rule for another. and she said in her piece today that she'd actually have banned those marches wasn't sacked marches if she wasn't sacked initially . initially. >> i'm not being generous. we see marches are blatant see these marches are blatant cases of jew hatred. i am being generous to an individual officer because i don't think it's right to pick on an individual officer. yeah but i would there

would say categorically, there is we're running. is no doubt we're running. >> we're running out of time, unfortunately, but much unfortunately, but very much appreciate with us, appreciate you being with us, scotland the clip scotland yard have said the clip is a short excerpt from a ten minute conversation. during the full conversation , the officer full conversation, the officer establishes that the woman the person concerned had person was concerned about had already been for already been arrested for a pubuc already been arrested for a public offence in relation public order offence in relation to placard. don't go to that placard. don't go anywhere. we've got lot anywhere. we've still got a lot more to come. gb news. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar , sponsors of weather on . solar, sponsors of weather on. gb news. >> hello. good morning . welcome >> hello. good morning. welcome to your latest gb news weather. we've got rain across scotland through much of the day ahead. elsewhere some bright spells, some heavy showers in places but it will feel warm, particularly in the south. so looking at the details we can see this weather front stuck across scotland through day, giving through the day, giving outbreaks rain, particularly outbreaks of rain, particularly across parts. elsewhere across eastern parts. elsewhere across eastern parts. elsewhere across the uk. it's a mixture of some bright or sunny spells, a

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gb news. >> 10 am. on tuesday. the 2nd of april. this is britain's newsroom on gb news with me. bev turner and ben leo in for andrew pierce. >> very good morning to you. now rishi sunak. he's thrown his support jk rowling and support behind jk rowling and her battle against scotland's new she's new hate crime law. she's challenged the police to arrest her . her union jack flag. >> another woke rebrand of the british flag . team gb's union british flag. team gb's union jack has turned pink and purple on a supporter's flag for the paris olympics. apparently this is going to be a rebrand and what do you make of it? >> oh, but it's diverse, bev, don't you know who's leftie salary, hefty salary, more like

an leftie, some would argue, despite being taken off air last yean despite being taken off air last year, the bbc's huw edwards is still expected be highest still expected to be the highest paid the annual still expected to be the highest paid list the annual still expected to be the highest paid list is the annual still expected to be the highest paid list is imminentlye annual salary list is imminently revealed and childcare rollout today. >> parents are set to receive more support in the government's new funding package . is it enough? >> the government says this will save parents nearly £7,000 a yeah save parents nearly £7,000 a year. if you've got a two year old, you'll qualify for 15 hours free childcare from today . but free childcare from today. but will you be able to get a place and some good news? >> shop price inflation eased to its lowest rate since december 2021. is your weekly shop now becoming cheaper? let us know. >> lots of your emails coming in already this morning. keep them coming gbviews@gbnews.com. first though, your very latest headunes though, your very latest headlines with sam francis.

>> beth and ben, thank you very much. and good morning to you. it's just coming up to 10:02. the headlines this hour , aid the headlines this hour, aid workers from here in britain and australia are among seven people understood to have been killed in gaza by what an ngo has described as an israeli air strike. the group were travelling in two armoured cars marked with the charity logo of world central kitchen and coordinated their movements with the israeli defence forces. we understand others killed include palestinians and people from the us and from poland. israel says it is now conducting a thorough review of that incident and the foreign office here in the uk also says it is aware of those reports. the australian prime minister, anthony albanese, has confirmed the death of an australian aid worker and said he expects to see full accountability for the deaths. >> we certainly have already contacted the israeli government

directly. we are contacting the israeli ambassador to ask for accountability here, the truth is that that this is beyond, beyond any reasonable circumstances. someone going about providing aid and humanitarian assistance should lose their life here in the uk. >> the prime minister is backing jk rowling after she criticised a new hate crime law in scotland. that law came into effect yesterday and outlaws hatred against people on certain grounds, including age, disability, sexuality and people who are transgender . but the who are transgender. but the author says the law risks silencing genuine debate on issues around gender and women's rights. rishi sunak has backed those concerns. he says that people should not be criminalised for stating simple facts on biology. well shadow

minister pat mcfadden told gb news this morning that labour has no plans to introduce any similar hate crime laws if it wins the next election. >> we want proper enforcement of the anti hate crime laws that are there and make sure that the right penalties are in place to protect people. we're not planning to legislate for new crimes in this area, and i don't think jk rowling should be arrested. >> meanwhile, labour has launched a new campaign it calls the cost of chaos , aimed at the cost of chaos, aimed at exposing the government's economic policies in the lead up to the next election. the campaign's website, which is now live , aims to show the cost of live, aims to show the cost of decisions made by the government like scrapping part of the hs2 rail project. sir keir starmers party is claiming the government to spend than £8 billion on to spend more than £8 billion on what he calls wasted projects under rishi sunak's leadership. the government, though, says the website is a waste of time and they've called on labour to devote more attention to setting out plans . prices devote more attention to setting out plans. prices in the out its own plans. prices in the shops are rising at slower rates

than for the last two years. that's according to new figures. in march, shop prices were up 1.3, slowing from 2.5% the month before. the british retail consortium has said that discounts on popular easter treats and essentials, and promotions on electricals and clothing have helped to keep the pnces clothing have helped to keep the prices down. economic adviser vicky price told gb news that pnces vicky price told gb news that prices have actually been coming down for some time, but it's not been reflected on the shelves . been reflected on the shelves. >> costs are still reasonably high for supermarket hits. they had to pay a lot more in terms of wages, still some transport costs and so on. but overall i think we could have expected by now to see prices falling rather than just inflation falling. and thatis than just inflation falling. and that is something which i think we need to be looking at for the future as well. >> the cost of a postage stamp is going up again from today, as royal mail moves to address a drop in demand, a first class stamp will set you back £1.35. that's a rise of £0.10. and it's

the same increase for second class, which now costs £0.85. 12 months ago, a first class stamp cost just £0.95. it's the fourth price rise in two years and comes after warnings that lower demand for postage is pushing up costs for royal mail . adidas costs for royal mail. adidas says that it will block any german football shirts featuring the number 44, amid concerns over a resemblance to the ss nazi symbol. the new kits were launched last month ahead of germany hosting the european championship, but a historian flagged similarities with the logo for ss, which was a nazi paramilitary organisation. the country's football association said it didn't spot the similarities when the design was approved, but it will be approved, but it will now be changed. and finally, before we head back to ben and bev. tiktok is launching a new video feed dedicated to science , dedicated to science, technology, engineering and maths for young people. the feature will collate some of the 15 million educational videos

already on the platform, from experts studying or working in those fields. users under the age of 18 will have that new feed activated by default on their accounts. content creators are hoping the feed will inspire younger users to consider careers in science and technology . but it comes amid technology. but it comes amid concerns over the chinese government's influence over the app's content. with the us moving to ban the app unless it's sold , those are the it's sold, those are the headunes it's sold, those are the headlines more in the next half houn headlines more in the next half hour. you can, of course, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the code on your screen, or go to gbnews.com/alerts . to gbnews.com/alerts. >> 1007 you're with ben liam in >>1007 you're with ben liam in for andrew pierce and bev turner on britain's newsroom. loving that tiktok story by the way. finally kids getting some decent content like they do. you know they do that in china. so in china, tiktok is nothing like we have in the west where it's have it in the west where it's silly stuff. they silly dances and stuff. they

have education content and, you know, . know, yes, science. >> whether the kids are watching it or not, they'll just go back to videos of people with cats dancing around the garden. right. janice been touch. right. janice has been in touch. morning, right. janice has been in touch. morni our union flag it is. leave our union flag as it is. we've lost our saint george's flag to the ridiculous colours for the english football team. this is, of course, this story. it's this year. it's olympic year. this year. olympics in paris. look at this. a pinky messed up union a purpley pinky messed up union jack flag. we're going to be to talking one man who carried the flag at the olympics. a british hero later on in the show. so don't go anywhere. >> clement says us english are already foreigners in our own country, those people trying country, and those people trying to change the flag are just proving says, as proving that. and john says, as a scot, my father and grandfather world wars a scot, my father and grrfightther world wars a scot, my father and grrfight for' world wars a scot, my father and grrfight for my world wars a scot, my father and grrfight for my freedoms. ld wars to fight for my freedoms. there's way an unelected there's no way an unelected leader dictate to me leader is going to dictate to me and what can say in a free and what i can say in a free country, referring, think, to country, referring, i think, to humza the snp's , hate speech. >> that's right. and tina has said the issue, i've said on the same issue, i've never such claptrap in all never heard such claptrap in all my life. i'm 78 and i will say what i like about who i like.

the problem now, tina, is if you said something in scotland over the dinner table and somebody deemed that to have been stirring up hatred, they could anonymously report you to the police. and whether not there police. and whether or not there was of what you said was a victim of what you said that pursued. i'm not that could be pursued. i'm not even joking. that is what this looks like, duncan said. this is just poorly thought out just another poorly thought out piece of legislation from the snp government. fit snp government. they're not fit for . david i for purpose. and david says, i would peter tatchell, who would say to peter tatchell, who we on this earlier, we interviewed on this earlier, if man enough to put if you're not man enough to put up the room idiots on up with the dark room idiots on social media spewing out their nastiness, social nastiness, don't go on social media, just grow up. >> that's i mean when >> that's what i mean when i said, what does mean? just said, what does hate mean? just grow up. it's the stuff of 16 year sixth form poly physics year old sixth form poly physics room discussions. >> can't hate it. it is >> you can't stop hate it. it is a normal and actually it is a necessary human emotion. we're meant to hate some things, some daysi meant to hate some things, some days i hate the stories we talk about on this show. some days i hate what is happening in the world. and that's good because it motivate to change. it will motivate me to change. very different to hating an

individual. , very, individual. of course, but very, very enacting that very different to enacting that hate in an act of physical violence against a person which should always be taken seriously. >> hey, here, right now, thousands of parents are now able to access 15 free hours of childcare for their two year olds. >> that's right, the full rollout rollout will be in place by september 2025, with 150,000 parents being able to benefit from it already. but is it enough? >> so we're going to ask that very question now to gb news political correspondent katherine forster. good morning to you. thank forjoining to you. thank you for joining us. it enough? and also, we us. is it enough? and also, we were just discussing this off air. apply your air. this won't apply if your partner home doesn't partner who is at home doesn't work well , this is for working work well, this is for working parents. >> is it enough? well, i think it's worth saying that this is actually a really big deal. this is a huge expansion of free childcare. so from today, if you're working, if you've got a two year old, you'll be qualified for 15 hours of free childcare a week from september. that goes down to babies from nine months and over. and by

next september for all children nine months and older will qualify for 30 hours of free childcare. right up until they start school. so the government is saying this is going to potentially save parents nearly £7,000 year. so is a big £7,000 a year. so it is a big deal £7,000 a year. so it is a big deal. but but there's a lot of question over whether people will qualify for this. but will they be able to get the places because the childcare sector is in crisis? they can't recruit the staff. their costs have gone up. they say that the money that the government is giving them is nowhere near to covering their costs. so in fact , although the costs. so in fact, although the government are issuing codes, they think they're giving out like 150,000 codes. when you take your code to your local provider, you may find that they are full and they have no spaces . or they you may find that you will have to top that up. so it sounds like a huge deal and it is a huge deal, but i think

there's going to be quite a lot of problems . of problems. >> i'm with those mps on this, including miriam cates, who've been arguing that what this legislation does takes choice legislation does is takes choice away from working parents. so should we for somebody you know, you've got your yours are still little ben. you're still dealing with this but mine are now growing up now when mine were little, i lot of the little, i shared a lot of the childcare my mum and my childcare with my mum and my childcare with my mum and my childcare with my mum. it was my children. wasn't childcare, children. i wasn't childcare, you was looking after my children. i wasn't childcare, you with was looking after my children. i wasn't childcare, you with vmothering after my children. i wasn't childcare, you with vmother andifter my children. i wasn't childcare, you with vmother and withmy children. i wasn't childcare, you with vmother and with my kids with my mother and with my husband's and often husband's mother and often working want that. working parents want to do that. and this for me doesn't allow for that situation. i didn't want plonk my son in want to plonk my son in a nursery for six hours a day. i wanted him to be at home with various people. do we have any response from any part of response from any other part of labour other party? how labour or any other party? how they this? labour or any other party? how the well, this? labour or any other party? how the well, the this? labour or any other party? how the well, the government are >> well, the government are saying this is about giving a choice. basically, they're saying that cost of saying that the cost of childcare through the roof saying that the cost of chil

sometimes are able to be at home with their children. i mean, labour got into a bit of bother last week, basically saying, well, we're going to commit well, we're not going to commit to completely. need to to this completely. we need to see stacks up. the tories see if it stacks up. the tories are now using that as a labour are now using that as a labour are going to take £7,000 worth of childcare away from you. attack line , and there's votes attack line, and there's votes in this, but the government are doing it because they want workers working, paying taxes , workers working, paying taxes, building the economy, as you rightly say. people like miriam kate saying, well, some parents want to take the time to stay at home with their children and they should have that choice too. the government could, for example , transfer, you know, the example, transfer, you know, the personal allowance of 12,500 pounds if they made it that you could, you could bunch those together and have those that would be a big benefit for mothers, particularly want to stay at home. i don't see that happening. >> why are there such few nursery places? because nurseries are some of the most lucrative businesses i've ever

come across. the fees are extortionate, their overheads are a lot, but their their profit margins are massive. and i know that for a fact. i know people who've worked in nurseries, managed nurseries. why paying people why aren't they paying people nursery money? nursery carers more money? because they deserve more. i've always if i'm paying always said it. if i'm paying someone to look after my kids, i want them to be paid whack. want them to be paid top whack. i want best people. why i want the best people. why aren't getting paid aren't workers getting paid more? the more? and why isn't the government to government doing more to make sure nurseries paying sure that nurseries are paying their more? sure that nurseries are paying the well, more? sure that nurseries are paying the well, the more? sure that nurseries are paying the well, the government will say >> well, the government will say they've raised the national living as of now, won't living wage as of now, won't they? but certainly it's one of these sectors, people that these sectors, like people that work care , that work in social care, that frankly, you can earn more money if and a job in lidl if you go and get a job in lidl or another supermarket, you'll get hourly rate. and get more as an hourly rate. and as you say, it's so wrong. it's as you say, it's so wrong. it's a really, really difficult and demanding but although some demanding job. but although some of the bosses of these nurseries will be making a lot, the people that look after your children are not getting a lot of money, and the nurseries themselves are saying the government are simply

short changing us, not giving us enough because of course their costs have gone up like everybody's costs have gone up in last couple of years. so, in the last couple of years. so, it's difficult, but it's one thing announcing this, sounds thing announcing this, it sounds fabulous if, if you want to be working and you need to have that support, but i'm not convinced that there will be all these places that they'll be promising. >> thank you. catherine. catherine forsyth, they're let us if you are affected by us know if you are affected by this today. vaiews@gbnews.com is the email address. >> i just think it's such a stitch up that if your partner doesn't work, then you're not entitled to it. >> the thing >> well, this is the thing i think you should get a tax break because has chosen to because your wife has chosen to stay at home and look the stay at home and look after the children. should be rewarded children. you should be rewarded for making still. >> do nursery a couple of >> do go to nursery a couple of days a just the social days a week just for the social aspect. but it's same aspect. yeah but it's same with everything if everything in this country. if you and do things by you work hard and do things by the get screwed the book, you get screwed for it. you get rewarded for it. you don't get rewarded for it. you don't get rewarded for it do you the look it anyway. do you like the look of jack flag? of this new union jack flag? it's supporters of team gb it's what supporters of team gb are being asked to fly at the paris this summer , nice paris olympics this summer, nice pinks not pinks and purples. certainly not your traditional union jack.

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gb news. welcome back. it's 1018. you're with ben leo in foundry. pierce and bev turner on britain's newsroom. we're joined now by gb newsroom. we're joined now by gb news senior political commentator nigel nelson and former to boris johnson, former adviser to boris johnson, lord colville ranger. good morning you both . morning to you both. >> well, we were chatting already in the break about the biggest story of the day. this is scotland, scotland's hate crime act 2021, crime and public order act 2021, covid. been debating covid. they've been debating this 21, and yet they've this since 21, and yet they've still come up with this piece of absolute nonsense leading to a potentially tyrannical , potentially tyrannical, tyrannical government in scotland. >> it's awful. and leading to the world's best selling author, i think, or one of them at least. >> yeah, jk rowling just making

a mockery of the law by calling it out. and she's not in the country at the moment. she's. most of your viewers may have heard she's been tweeting saying, if this is the saying, well, if this is the law, going to say what i law, i'm going to say what i want to say and come and arrest me. literally the me. literally taunting the scottish police, who seem to be caughtin scottish police, who seem to be caught in middle of this caught in the middle of this political here, of political quagmire here, of what's now a crime and not a crime. and fact , how do they crime. and in fact, how do they describe non—crime hate describe it? a non—crime hate incident. incident? >> a non—crime hate incident. nigel nelson what a wonderful world we live in. it is kafkaesque. this whole thing . kafkaesque. this whole thing. because even if there is no victim here, if somebody is observing a conversation, they perceive that it could stir up hatred in the minds of a reasonable person. that person could be arrested for words. nigel. >> well, yes, they could, and that's absolutely right. and that, and we've seen this elsewhere, on a palestinian march, if the wrong symbol is used, if the wrong, the wrong thing is chanted words actually are an arrestable offence. what

j.k. rowling has done. i'm not against her campaigning for single—sex spaces for women . single—sex spaces for women. that's fine. i think that that is absolutely right . that's fine. i think that that is absolutely right. she's taunting the police on the on these tweets, which i think is unnecessary. she's being unnecessarily offensive . really? unnecessarily offensive. really? yeah. on the basis that she's perfectly entitled to say that a biological man can't be a woman . biological man can't be a woman. that's fine. and that wouldn't be covered under this new law to start attacking, ten well—known transgender women. >> and the half of them are sex offenders and paedophiles . offenders and paedophiles. >> well, i mean, nigel, we should just explain this to the audience. if they're not on twitter x, as called twitter or x, as it's called now, response this act, now, in response to this act, j.k. issued a thread of j.k. rowling issued a thread of tweets . there was about 10 or 11 tweets. there was about 10 or 11 in which she gave individual case studies of predominantly sex offenders who are trans people, men who have been found guilty of rape, who were then

wanted to be in a women's prison . she put all this and it was very sarcastically written. and then said, of course, these then she said, of course, these women. and at the end she women. and then at the end she said, course they're not said, of course they're not women. all men. and women. they're all men. come and arrest think i'm wrong. >> but just to that, you >> but just to explain that, you know, what that know, do you know what that did by that? said, by her doing that? she said, right. scottish police either come and arrest me and we'll have court the have this out in court for the full farce it is on display full farce that it is on display for whole world, don't for the whole world, or don't arrest i'll arrest me. and again, i'll expose what farce this piece expose what a farce this piece of either of legislation is. either way, she hit bull's eye and she has hit a bull's eye and exposed the snp. humza. useless, humza yousaf sorry. slept the sun and. and the scottish police for what they are pushing an absolutely tyrannical, farcical piece of legislation. >> well, i mean, whether the legislation itself is farcical or tyrannical remains to be seen about how it's applied . and the about how it's applied. and the point is that this bit of legislation is in place, that jk rowling is sailing quite close to the wind with her tweets . to the wind with her tweets. yes. and on the basis of that, it is up to up to police scotland to decide whether or

not they think an offence has been committed . the police don't been committed. the police don't want this law anyway. the last thing wouldn't want do want this law anyway. the last th actually wouldn't want do want this law anyway. the last th actually get|ldn't want do want this law anyway. the last th actually get involved1t do want this law anyway. the last th actually get involved in do want this law anyway. the last th actually get involved in allo is actually get involved in all this, they've lumbered this, but they've been lumbered with . if jk rowling wants with it. so if jk rowling wants to be arrested and the police discover this is against the current law, then that is what will happen. >> i think nigel, the point here is that j.k. rowling is not lucky to be arrested. what she's doing is showing the law is an ass and she's demonstrating it. that that that despite the fact that they've try and they've taken years to try and come up with a sensible way of approaching this conversation, they've left it open and they haven't done what they should haven't done what they should have done, which is protect people need protecting, such people who need protecting, such as women. know we don't as women. and we know we don't need protecting. >> i do not need the protection. >> i know you were going say >> i know you were going to say that, but i didn't mean it in sort protect sort of. we need to protect women, but what we need to do is ensure when people ensure that when people are doing is damaging doing something that is damaging to people. so attacking to other people. so attacking women violence , not women and with violence, not word, the needs word, that's where the law needs to strong enough to to be strong enough to demonstrate it can do what it

does here. what we have is a world people are now not world where people are now not allowed what they what allowed to say what they what they want to say. and i think that infringing on free, free speech is where the real problem occui's. >> occurs. >> the point is, she's allowed to say what she to say. to say what she wants to say. the here is whether she's the issue here is whether she's allowed to attack individuals . allowed to attack individuals. >> no. well, it's about whether it could be seen to be stirring up hatred . and that's the up hatred. and that's the phraseology of the act. up hatred. and that's the pthes. logy of the act. up hatred. and that's the pthes. so, of the act. up hatred. and that's the pthes. so, so, the act. up hatred. and that's the pthes. so, so, so; act. up hatred. and that's the pthes. so, so, so there's >> yes. so, so, so there's nothing wrong with her opinion that she has the that she has. she has the freedom to say, i believe a biological man cannot be a woman . that's fine. that wouldn't contravene any laws. when she starts misgendering, trans women . and that's where she runs into dangen . and that's where she runs into danger. and the whole point of the law, the law is actually a bit, is a bit vague on this. so it would be interesting to have a test case in court to find out if it still works. >> well, that's why i hope this why police scotland why i hope police scotland do arrest she arrest jk rowling because she take it all to take them, she take it all to court. it would all play out. it would be the trial of the

century would expose, century and she would expose, as i saying, them and the snp i keep saying, them and the snp for that is. for the farce that it is. >> how you hate? you >> how do you stop hate? you can't people hating another can't stop people hating another person. is a natural person. hate is a natural human emotion. a good emotion. sometimes it's a good thing to have. >> you say this earlier, >> i heard you say this earlier, bevan. agree what you're bevan. i agree with what you're saying depends what saying and it depends what kind of talking about. saying and it depends what kind of kind talking about. saying and it depends what kind of kind of talking about. saying and it depends what kind of kind of society,1g about. saying and it depends what kind of kind of society, whatyut. what kind of society, what freedoms we want people to have. look, i've grown up in an era where hate was racial . of where hate was racial. of course, where i was called the p word. i won't say it now. all the time growing up, even though i'm not, i'm a sikh, so i was miss religion, almost miss miss ancestry. that stuff was ancestry. all that stuff was thrown that was hate. thrown at you that was hate. there was real hate between communities, between . we don't communities, between. we don't really have that now. if we have it, we call it out. so society has its own ways of calling these things out. now, as soon as we start to get try to get laws into saying what people can and cannot say to each other, i think we're edging into a very difficult word, especially where the police don't want to be wasting time type wasting their time on this type of non crime. there you go.

>> but your boss so sunak has come out and he said i defend j.k. rowling's right because biological sex matters. i'm paraphrasing. he could have gone further. he should be going further. he should be going further . he further. he should be going further. he should be going further. he should be criticising the snp for this disgusting legislation. why isn't he. >> well, i think he's letting the snp sort of deal with its own problem that it's made there. he's made it quite clear that he doesn't agree with what they're supporting jk rowling. >> it got him interested in gender identity act, though, didn't he? when they tried, when the snp tried to push through the snp tried to push through the gender identity got the gender identity act he got involved, unusually, involved, didn't he? unusually, and overruled overruled him. and he overruled overruled him. why can't he do that now? >> i think he you know he's got to let them. there is devolution here. there is a scottish parliament, there's a leader there. >> some things are more important in decisions. >> to humza yousaf >> he's got to he's humza yousaf is own bed and he'll is making his own bed and he'll have lay in it. have to lay in it. >> some things more >> some things are more important, speech. important, nigel. free speech. above need to fight above all else. we need to fight for that is a hill i will die upon. >> but, but, but free speech is not unlimited . and that's the

point. >> it is. it should be. it's unconditional. free speech should be. then it's not free speech. well, free, free speech has got to the right to has got to be that the right to free means it's got to be free speech means it's got to be used responsibly. free speech means it's got to be useand;ponsibly. free speech means it's got to be useand so nsibly. free speech means it's got to be useand so weily. free speech means it's got to be useand so we put limits on the >> and so we put limits on the free speech. >> but who decides what's responsible ? who decides what? responsible? who decides what? who offended? responsible? who decides what? who the offended? responsible? who decides what? who the thing. offended? responsible? who decides what? who the thing. wellended? responsible? who decides what? who the thing. well initially that's the thing. well initially we do. >> i mean, there's no reason. reason to not offend somebody. but that's unjustifiable, but if that's unjustifiable, offence and that's in the gb news editorial charter, if it's an unjustifiable offence, we shouldn't do it. and we should. we should actually police ourselves on this. so we should respect individuals, respect other people's opinions , that other people's opinions, that doesn't stop free speech, but it doesn't stop free speech, but it does mean you wield it in a way thatis does mean you wield it in a way that is responsible because that's the that's the duty we have that goes behind the rights. >> but isn't there a danger, though, if we're outsourcing every free internal, moral, ethical decision to the state as individuals, we're losing the ability to do that. self—policing, as you've just

said. >> well, say we take we go back to the to the, the, the act in scotland. i mean, what i'd imagine is most people will behave reasonably. i don't think the police be rushed off the police will be rushed off their think people their feet. i think people understand they won't do understand that they won't do it. but there are there are some people and this is where social media is coming. we all, we all get all know that get this. we all know that social people say things social media people say things they're to they're they wouldn't say to your face where don't your face where people don't police themselves and that's where the law has to step in. >> that's ridiculous because i think it is just words, nigel. and if you don't want to read the words on twitter, don't go on twitter . on twitter. >> i think that you're right. >> i think that you're right. >> the issue of it being a non—crime , you know, what is it? non—crime, you know, what is it? and i know i understand what nigel is saying about words matter and the influence of them and where they generate violence and where they generate violence and hate. and that's where we have where have to be have a line where we have to be clear about what we're saying. but if there's a non—crime definition, then why are we getting the law getting the police and the law involved? the involved? and that's the difficulty i think we difficulty here, and i think we have to work through just have to work through it. i just

don't that the scottish don't think that the scottish government has got to the right don't think that the scottish gover yet. it has got to the right don't think that the scottish goveryet. remember? the right place yet. remember? >> course, as i've said, >> of course, as i've said, i think it's so important that we discuss this because do you know what was what else was interesting? i was driving yesterday driving back yesterday from chester a lot of chester and like a lot of people, i spent about 7 or 8 hours on a bank hours in the car on a bank houday hours in the car on a bank holiday monday listening all hours in the car on a bank holispeech nday listening all hours in the car on a bank holispeechradiolistening all hours in the car on a bank holispeech radio stations, all hours in the car on a bank holispeech radio stations, and.l the speech radio stations, and we were the only channel giving this airtime that it this issue the airtime that it deserved. speech deserved. very few other speech radio really radio stations were really getting into this issue because maybe across the media, nigel, there isn't the same desire for freedom of expression . people freedom of expression. people are very happy with this kind of socially liberal virtue signalling, helping all of this along a lot of front pages this morning. >> i mean, the mail has splashed it. it's on the front of the times, big piece in the telegraph. so i mean, in the guardian, i haven't actually looked at the guardian yet, but what i do, i'll see if i can find it. >> well, i can imagine that it won't be. you know, this is one of those issues where i think you the old fashioned you can apply the old fashioned right versus left perspective. do and we to be

>> and i think we have to be very about the state very careful about the state having thought control, speech control, we're and control, where we're heading and that and there's a real worry for those on the right about when you start seeing, you know, authoritarian laws coming in about non crimes. and nigel, i'm sure you'll be equally concerned about those kinds of things. and in fact, as we've all said, where we know we'll struggle to enforce this and it'll become an ass, the law will become an arse. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> i mean, we're doing it anyway. the palestinian demonstrations have been an absolute we've absolute example of where we've had so you have had to police words. so you have from the river to the sea, where there is some dispute over whether that's always an anti—semitic slogan . i don't anti—semitic slogan. i don't think it always is, but it can be within context. we have we have the situation of the police, of the police officer who turned around to a jewish woman and said, oh, a swastika depends on the context. well, the context was in a demonstration involving , demonstration involving, israelis and as a result of

that, that context was then offensive and i would say anti—semitic and therefore illegal. >> yes. as was to the river, to the sea in every context it was used in those marches. no, because it's being used as a way of describing something that people. no, no , it depends on. people. no, no, it depends on. >> again, it depends on interpretation. >> it's the context. >> it's the context. >> it's the context. >> it's in the march. well, the context would be if you were, chanting from to the chanting from the river to the sea a synagogue or a sea outside a synagogue or a jewish school. context jewish school. the context of that would per se that would make it per se anti—semitic on a march. he could mean different things from the river to the sea does not necessarily mean throwing all jews in israel into the sea. >> gentlemen , i found this story >> gentlemen, i found this story about the scottish hate crime in the guardian . the guardian. >> it's made it onto page 11. you'll be pleased to know it's in there, hidden in there. >> nigel got there. >> nigel got there. >> and actually, the way that it's written is that yusef is defending it and standing by amid criticism, is amid a barrage of criticism, is how describing it?

how they're describing it? yes. >> do you what >> quite right. do you know what yusef has said? he said those who nothing to hide unless yusef has said? he said those who behaviour ng to hide unless yusef has said? he said those who behaviourngthreatening,ess your behaviour is threatening, abusive or intends to stir up hatred, have to hatred, you have nothing to worry okay? keep your worry about now, okay? keep your mouth and obey . it's the mouth shut and obey. it's the equivalent of saying, if you don't care, why do you care about privacy if you've got nothing to hide? >> talking of keeping your mouth shut, to do that now shut, we've got to do that now because waiting because sam francis is waiting very patiently. you, very patiently. thank you, gentlemen, you'll be back in a little here's sam with little while. here's sam with the headlines. the latest headlines. >> bev and ben, thank you very much. and good morning from the gb newsroom. it'sjust gone much. and good morning from the gb newsroom. it's just gone half ten. the top story this ten. and the top story this houn ten. and the top story this hour. aid workers britain hour. aid workers from britain and understood to and australia are understood to be among seven people killed in gaza by what an ngo has described as an israeli air strike. the group were travelling in two armoured cars marked with the world central kitchen logo, and coordinated their movements with the israeli defence forces. others killed include palestinians and people from the us and poland. the foreign office here in the uk says it is aware of reports of

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sponsors the gb news financial report . report. >> i'm just reading all about. this olympic flag being changed from red, white and blue. i'm incensed, but we're also going to be talking in a minute about the fact that not a single car thief more than thief was caught in more than 100 neighbourhoods. thief was caught in more than 100surprise urhoods. thief was caught in more than 100surprise inioods. thief was caught in more than 100surprise in broken britain. >> surprise in broken britain. >> surprise in broken britain. >> why? why are the police struggling to this issue? >> why? why are the police stru�*cctv] to this issue? >> why? why are the police stru�*cctv footage this issue? >> why? why are the police stru�*cctv footage on:his issue? >> why? why are the police stru�*cctv footage on my issue? >> why? why are the police stru�*cctv footage on my street the cctv footage on my street whatsapp group every

gb news. >> welcome back. and now. shock figures show that no car thief was caught in over 100 neighbourhoods in england and wales year . neighbourhoods in england and wales year. about neighbourhoods in england and wales year . about 85% of wales last year. about 85% of around 336,000 vehicle crimes were closed without the thief being identified. so why are the police asleep behind the wheel or are they very . good

or are they very. good >> well, joining us now is the president of the uk branch of the international association of auto mike auto theft investigators, mike bnggs auto theft investigators, mike briggs. mike. briggs. good morning mike. i mean, suppose if you'd asked mean, i suppose if you'd asked any how car crime any of us how much car crime gets would have gets solved, we would have thought there wasn't awful thought there wasn't an awful lot. damning. lot. but this is just damning. it's effectively decriminalised . it's effectively decriminalised. good morning. yes, it's , there's good morning. yes, it's, there's a lot of issues around vehicle crime today. it's completely different to how it used to be in the 1990s, vehicle crime methods with the equipment available means that there's not really a lot for police to work on, and it's a changing face every day with the equipment that's actually being used. >> so are you talking about specifically the radio antennas, which , for example, range rover which, for example, range rover and land rover have had problems with where thieves can unlock cars remotely from the comfort of their own car next to it, get into it and drive off. >> well, that used to be the

case with the range rovers , but case with the range rovers, but today range rover actually put in place a system that will actually not allow that. so the thief actually has to get on board the vehicle to, to actually take the vehicle. so vehicle manufacturers have worked, you know , consistently worked, you know, consistently hard against vehicle theft and it's it takes us all to know about vehicle theft and the methods being used. >> what are people doing with cars? they're stealing these days? mike. where are they going? >> well , all going? >> well, all vehicles travel around the world, mostly without the owners of those vehicles. but they go on to either commit other crimes or pay for other crimes. you know, drugs, terrorism, human trafficking, things of that nature. and of course, you've then got the spare parts of the vehicles, so the vehicle will be broken up and then sold off in parts. and that's a global market. >> are there any particular >> so are there any particular brands of car that are getting stolen more than others? i did

mention mention land rover and range seem to range rover, but you seem to think that problem think they solved that problem because course, there was because of course, there was that story about the fact that big story about the fact that big story about the fact that premiums that insurance premiums for those vehicles had rocketed as a result issues they'd faced. >> yeah, is the problem >> yeah, this is the problem with knowledge, so everybody needs to have a bit of knowledge on vehicle crime from policing the customer himself, the insurance industry, we've all got to play our part, so i think the number one vehicle being targeted at the moment was the ford fiesta . yeah. and you don't ford fiesta. yeah. and you don't really hear much about that, but it's worth its weight in gold in parts. it doesn't matter whether it's a left hand drive or a right hand drive. there's a marketplace for these vehicles. >> we've never had so much personal, privately owned cctv. mike on driveways . is there ever mike on driveways. is there ever any point you're taking that to your local police station? if your local police station? if you can find one? >> yeah, i hear what you're saying on that . yeah, it's very saying on that. yeah, it's very important that you get as much

information as possible. and cctv footage really does help, you you may get a conviction from that, but it is really difficult for policing because there is no evidence of the theft. it's electronic theft. so you've got nothing left on the spot unless somebody gets stopped on their way to or from the incidents, because vehicle crime is not performed by one person, it's a gang and it will normally be certain individuals will normally do certain tasks from the driver to the person operating the equipment, or the two people operating the equipment, depending on how it works so, know, it's works. so, you know, it's everybody's got know what to everybody's got to know what to look for. >> mike, are the car and vehicle gps systems just redundant once they get nicked? why can't we just trace their location , there just trace their location, there are a lot of different tracking systems out there , and some systems out there, and some systems out there, and some systems are really good, some

systems are really good, some systems use new types of technology , other systems, the technology, other systems, the older systems can be blocked or jammed , and the equipment is jammed, and the equipment is available on the internet to actually do this. so, you know, we need to tighten up on everything . everything. >> mike, let me read this to you.so >> mike, let me read this to you. so this is the statement from the home office. they've said progress has been made in tackling vehicle related theft, which 18% since 2010. which is down 18% since 2010. we've also recently introduced provisions in the criminal justice bill to ban electronic devices used in vehicle theft. your response to that statement ? your response to that statement? >> well, that bill actually is a big step forward and will help police no end, which then goes on to help the customer who's trying to hang on to his vehicle. so that actually gives policing a bit more knowledge and a bit more power over individuals carrying certain items. because if i was to go and steal a car with the equipment available today , you equipment available today, you know, and i was stopped, i could simply say, well, this is for my

computer at home, right? yeah, yeah. computer at home, right? yeah, yeah . and this bill would yeah. and this bill would actually go towards actually stopping me saying that because policing will be able to use additional powers over me to, to actually stop me in my tracks . actually stop me in my tracks. >> okay. all right. thanks so much, mike. fascinating. mike briggs there . the, from the briggs there. the, from the international association of auto theft investigators didn't know there was such. >> i want to know if it's if it's lacklustre cops. are they not doing their jobs or is it just easier for, for, you know, car thieves and organised car thieves? >> that's what it is. it's not just, you know, when i was growing up. i'm older than you, ben, but when i was, you know, it might be drunk guy walking it might be a drunk guy walking home might home from the pub. he might try the and to just the door and happen to just hotwire it and drive off, you know. now, on our street, know. but now, on our street, just a couple of nights ago, two motorbikes, two guys on each motorbikes, two guys on each motorbike 1:15 motorbike driving down, a 1:15 in checking every in the morning, checking every single car, car door came single car, every car door came across of our neighbour's across one of our neighbour's motorcycles , had one of motorcycles, had got on one of those angle things . a those angle grinder things. a shaved off the lock. my language

, my vocabulary around car theft is not great. took off the lock and then sped away with it . and then sped away with it. >> but they do that kind of thing in broad daylight as well, don't they? they don't care how many times. how many clips have you of with angle you seen of people with angle grinders bikes? motorcycles. >> ? anyway, let us know >> right? anyway, let us know your thoughts if you've been affected theft. gb views affected by car theft. gb views at news.com. up next, though, at gb news.com. up next, though, at gb news.com. up next, though, a former olympian is going a top former olympian is going to give us his thoughts on this new union jack flag. and he carried flag at the olympics carried the flag at the olympics in beijing. don't go anywhere. this is

>> another day. another woke. rebrand of a flag. this time. team gb's union jack has turned. surprise, surprise. pink and purple . purple. >> at the moment, it seems to be that it's on the supporters flag for the paris olympics. but of course, we're yet to see the official kit. what is that going

to look like? well, one man who knows the of knows about the pride of carrying union flag is carrying the union jack flag is olympian mark foster, and we're looking at the picture of looking there at the picture of mark. that was in 2008 at the beijing olympics , mark joins us beijing olympics, mark joins us now. mark, that was your fifth olympic games there when you were asked to carry the flag. that was an incredible achievement. how important is it to athletes when you pull on your olympic kit kit your kit, your olympic kit kit for the first time, covered in union jack flags , i think it's union jack flags, i think it's important. i mean, ultimately one of these things is we all, we all think about the union jack and represent our country. and it it looks the way it does. red, white and blue. i always remember picking up every olympic go to a sort olympic games. you go to a sort of holding centre. could have olympic games. you go to a sort of ho theg centre. could have olympic games. you go to a sort of ho theg centre or could have olympic games. you go to a sort of ho theg centre or something; been the el—sisi or something where athletes turn up where 500 gb athletes turn up and up your your t and you pick up your yourt shirts, your tracksuits, your swimsuits, everything . and it's swimsuits, everything. and it's one of those exciting moments that you're like, oh, what does the kit look like? obviously that you're like, oh, what does the ki going like? obviously that you're like, oh, what does the ki going liksee)bviously that you're like, oh, what does the ki going liksee soonisly the we're going to see soon what the kit looks i'm not kit looks like, and i'm not saying that that is going to be

the flag there. i'm all the olympic flag there. i'm all for jazzing up a tracksuit , but forjazzing up a tracksuit, but i think the flag needs to remain the same. >> what did you make of the england football kit mark with the union? sorry. the saint george's flag on the collar defaced , well, first of all, defaced, well, first of all, i thought there was a lot of fuss about such a little thing because it was only a tiny little tiny, little saint george's flag. >> then i was like, >> but then again, i was like, well, a tiny little well, if it's a tiny little thing, why doesn't it remain just the george's flag, thing, why doesn't it remain just there george's flag, thing, why doesn't it remain just there aaorge's flag, thing, why doesn't it remain just there a note's flag, thing, why doesn't it remain just there a note inflag, thing, why doesn't it remain justthere a note in my, thing, why doesn't it remain justthere a note in my mind. but there was a note in my mind. there lot of fuss about there was a lot of fuss about something so small . we're all. something so small. we're all. they're all sort of playing under saint george's flag still. and the saint george's flag has remained the same. we've not changed but because joey changed that. but because joey bartram made such a fuss about it, sort of. i against it, i was sort of. i was against him, really, i. yeah. him, really, because i. yeah. >> this the thing. it >> like, this is the thing. it is divisive, mark, isn't it, is so divisive, mark, isn't it, when symbols are played when these symbols are played around with and we were thinking here, it is unfathomable that say the american flag, the star spangled banner. if that was

changed to the red to pink, the blue to purple, there'd be such a patriotic sense sense of outrage. and yet we don't seem to have that . to have that. >> and why it's why. why is it? i was thinking this. i mean, it's not the athletes or the general public have chosen to change the flag. it's obviously, i'm presuming adidas because they're the kit sponsor and the british olympic association between the two of them, they've come up something. or is come up with something. or is this just as you say, the fans flag? well, if it is the fans flag, they probably won't buy it. they'll just go and buy a load of union jacks and use what they traditionally use anyway. >> yeah, well, been >> yeah, well, it's been rebranded, described it. rebranded, they've described it. the company that have rebranded it it diverse it have called it a diverse design in system, and they've said they wanted to push the colours to their limits . so colours to their limits. so obviously red, white and blue they say, is synonymous with great britain. but it is far

from unique. they say with nafions from unique. they say with nations such as france and usa, they're already sporting those colours , so we want to refresh colours, so we want to refresh it. so we, they said we it. and so we, they said we decided to embrace the colours and push the iconic red, white and push the iconic red, white and blue as far as we could. but they pushed the red to pink and they pushed the red to pink and they pushed the blue to purple. so just completely so that is just completely ridiculous. >> fm- ridiculous. >> you're saying >> so is what you're saying here? a marketing thing. here? it's a marketing thing. yes. and also, is it one of these things that the fact that if brands do this, then we talk about it more so they get more coverage? >> i wouldn't have thought that was their motivation though, surely, because also surely, because they've also said they've said team gb said they've received public feedback. >> that might all change after this morning. i >> that might all change after this morning . i hate to tell you this morning. i hate to tell you team gb because it is on mark the front page of the sun newspaper with the headline union joke. so clearly a lot of people in this country do take this seriously and it will have backfired on them . backfired on them. >> i mean, just the first time i've sort of you sent me through this morning, it's the first time i sort of seen the picture.

>> that's why i put glasses >> that's why i put my glasses on as because i couldn't on as well, because i couldn't really see it very, very well, it it's so jazzed it isn't. i think it's so jazzed up, if you look the up, though, if you look at the certain it, it's not certain areas of it, it's not just the one colours or just changed the one colours or the three colours together, it's all bits well. all the background bits as well. there's lots of swirls and other bits and pieces in it, and that's why of go, they're that's why i kind of go, they're not changing the union jack. the union stay the union jack is going to stay the same. just some artistic same. that is just some artistic view where's that view of, i mean, where's that going present? it's not going to be present? it's not going to be present? it's not going be present when going to be present when athletes not athletes win medals. it's not going flag that goes athletes win medals. it's not goiris flag that goes athletes win medals. it's not goiris it? flag that goes athletes win medals. it's not goiris it? that's flag that goes athletes win medals. it's not goiris it? that's not that goes athletes win medals. it's not goiris it? that's not goingjoes athletes win medals. it's not goiris it? that's not going to�*s up, is it? that's not going to have changed. and i think athletes, when they're behind have changed. and i think ath|tracksuitsn they're behind have changed. and i think ath|tracksuits themselves, |ind the tracksuits themselves, we don't they're going don't know what they're going to look don't think look like. and i don't think that changed an awful that would have changed an awful lot. the union jack lot. i mean, the union jack is still going remain union still going to remain the union jack. not going to jack. you're not going to displace union jack, don't displace the union jack, i don't believe some believe let's hope, mark, some people england people argued that the england football this team football kit and now this team gb flag has been gb supporters flag has been redesigned in a nod to the lgbt community. >> what's your position on politics and sport? should they ever mix , i think sometimes they ever mix, i think sometimes they

do mix . i ever mix, i think sometimes they do mix. i think sports and politics do mix. and i mean, i think it shouldn't i think sport is a place where it should just bnng is a place where it should just bring people together in a i'm going to call sport a game because i, you know , i got into because i, you know, i got into swimming because it was my love and my passion. but it was a game, my became game, you know, my job became a game, you know, my job became a game racing against other people. and i think sports should but then should remain that way. but then again , if you look at the again, if you look at the invictus or the invictus games, but was thinking of the rugby but i was thinking of the rugby world cup with, the, in south africa that brought a nation together . so sport really does together. so sport really does bnng together. so sport really does bring people together. so it shouldn't be, shouldn't be used in a political way. but i think sometimes it is and i don't think athletes should be a lot of the time the athletes that go and represent their country at the olympics will be doing that, and on that, the olympics will be doing that, and they on that, the olympics will be doing that, and they won't on that, the olympics will be doing that, and they won't be on that, the olympics will be doing that, and they won't be focusedthat, the olympics will be doing that, and they won't be focused on:, the olympics will be doing that, and they won't be focused on the flag. >> yeah, they'll be focused on that and they be making a that and they won't be making a fuss the on fuss about whether the flag on their tracksuit not true their tracksuit is not the true british colours . british colours. >> no, but i believe and i haven't seen the team gb kit and it will be out soon, that it

will have a normal union jack on it, and this jazzed up one will be jazzed up one. be the jazzed up one. >> yeah, okay, yeah. be the jazzed up one. >> well, okay, yeah. be the jazzed up one. >> well they 1, yeah. be the jazzed up one. >> well they might. be the jazzed up one. >> well they might they be >> well they might they might be quickly it if it quickly revising it if it wasn't. great to see you, wasn't. mark. great to see you, mark there . one of our mark foster there. one of our greatest all time olympians. five olympics swimmer . greatest all time olympians. five olympics swimmer. up five olympics as a swimmer. up next, we're going to go over to glasgow see anyone's been glasgow to see if anyone's been arrested for the new arrested for breaking the new hate crime laws. don't go anywhere, news. anywhere, gb news. >> outlook with boxt >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hello. good morning. welcome to your latest gb news weather. we've got rain across scotland through much of the day ahead. elsewhere, some bright spells, some heavy showers in places. but it will feel warm, particularly in the south. so looking at the details, we can see this weather front stuck across scotland through the day, giving outbreaks of rain, particularly across eastern parts. across the uk. parts. elsewhere across the uk. it's a mixture of some bright or sunny spells , a scattering of sunny spells, a scattering of showers, some of them heavy but not quite as widespread as

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gb news. way. >> 11:00 on tuesday, the 2nd of april. this is britain's newsroom on gb news with me, bev turner and ben leo in for andrew pierce. >> very good morning to you, rishi sunak. he's thrown his support behind jk rowling and her battle against scotland's new crime law . she's new hate crime law. she's challenged police to arrest challenged the police to arrest her. if anyone has been her. i wonder if anyone has been arrested just yet . arrested just yet. >> and hughes hefty salary, despite being taken off air last yean despite being taken off air last year, remember that the bbc's huw edwards is still expected to be the highest paid newsreader when the annual salary list is revealed. he makes a whopping £450,000 a year, not bad for

some union jack flag. >> another woke rebrand of a flag. this time team gb's union jack has been turned pink and purple on a supporters flag for the paris olympics. the olympian fatima whitbread joins us shortly . shortly. >> and trump gag order donald trump has been barred from criticising the daughter of the judge overseeing his criminal trial, after labelling her a trump hater and childcare rollouts . rollouts. >> parents are set to receive more support in the government's new funding package. we want to know is it enough these plans could save families nearly £7,000 a year. >> if you've got a two year old, you now qualify for 15 hours a week. but when you come to try and claim it, will that actually be a place? >> so i was giggling during that menu about trump. what what's

happened? he's been banned from criticising the judge's daughter for being a trump hater. sounds like an snp lord, isn't it hateful rhetoric, right? >> let us know your thoughts. vaiews@gbnews.com. first, though, more on all of those stories with sam francis . stories with sam francis. >> very good morning from the gb newsroom. it'sjust >> very good morning from the gb newsroom. it's just gone 11:00 and we start with latest and we start with the latest developments on incident in developments on the incident in gaza. lord cameron has now gaza. lord david cameron has now called for a full and transparent explanation from israel after british and australian aid workers were among seven people killed in an air strike. there the group were travelling in two armoured cars marked with the charity logo of world central kitchen. the ngo has claimed that israel's defence forces carried out the attack despite coordinating their movements with the military . others killed include military. others killed include palestinians and people from the

us and poland. the australian prime minister, anthony albanese , confirmed the death of an australian citizen and said he expects to see full accountability for the deaths . accountability for the deaths. >> we certainly have already contacted the israeli government directly. we are contacting the israeli ambassador to ask for accountable reality here, the truth is that that this is beyond, beyond any reasonable circumstances. someone going about providing aid and humanity , an assistance should lose their life . their life. >> the foreign office says that it is aware of those reports from gaza and a spokesperson for the israeli defence forces has given a statement. in the last hour or so. he said it is reviewing the incident at the highest levels. >> the work of sukh is critical.

they are the front lines of humanity . we will get to the humanity. we will get to the bottom of this and we will share our findings transparently . our findings transparently. >> meanwhile, the prime minister is backing jk rowling after she criticised a new hate crime law in scotland. it came into effect yesterday and outlaws hatred against people on certain grounds, including age, disability, sexuality and people who are transgender . but the who are transgender. but the author says that the law risks silencing genuine debate on issues around gender and women's rights . rishi issues around gender and women's rights. rishi sunak has backed those concerns. he says that people should not be criminalised for stating simple facts on biology. shadow minister pat mcfadden told gb news this morning that labour has no plans to introduce any similar new hate crime laws if it wins the next election . it wins the next election. >> we want proper enforcement of the anti hate crime laws that are there and make sure that the

right penalties are in place to protect people. we're not planning to legislate for new crimes in this area, and i don't think jk rowling should be arrested. >> in other news, adidas says it will block any german football shirts that feature the number 44 amid concerns over a resemblance to the ss nazi symbol. the new kits were launched last month, ahead of germany hosting the european championships in june and july, but a historian flagged similarities with the logo for the ss, which is a nazi paramilitary organisation in the country's football association, says though it didn't spot the similarities when the design was approved. but it will now be changed. prices in shops are rising at the slowest rate for two years. that's according to new figures out this morning. in march, shop prices were up 1.3, slowing from 2.5% the month before. the british retail consortium says discounts on popular easter treats and essentials , and promotions on essentials, and promotions on electricals and clothing have helped to keep the prices down.

economic adviser vicky pryce told gb news this morning that pnces told gb news this morning that prices have actually been coming down for some time , but it's not down for some time, but it's not been reflected on the shelves. >> costs are still reasonably high for supermarkets. they had to pay a lot more in terms of wages, still some transport costs and so on. but overall i think we could have expected by now to see prices falling rather than just inflation falling. and thatis than just inflation falling. and that is something which i think we need to be looking at for the future as well. >> the cost of a postage >> and the cost of a postage stamp is going up from today as royal mail moves to address a drop in demand, a first class stamp will set you back £1.35. that's a rise of £0.10. and it's the same increase for second class stamps, which now cost £0.85. 12 months ago, a first class stamp cost just £0.95. it's the fourth price rise in just two years and comes after warnings that lower demand for postage is pushing up costs for royal mail . for the latest

royal mail. for the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the code on your screen, or go to gb news. com slash alerts . news. com slash alerts. >> good morning. it's 1106. >> good morning. it's1106. you're with britain's newsroom on gb news with bev turner and ben leo in for andrew pierce. >> very good morning to you. now, huw edwards, he's expected. remember the he's remember him, by the way. he's expected be as the expected to be named as the bbc's highest earning newsreader. a year on newsreader. almost a year on from the nude images scandal that took him off air. >> so details of his six figure salary are set to be published in this summer's annual report. this come months after this will come 12 months after he appeared screen . he last appeared on screen. >> yes. and a spokesman for the bbc said as we've previously explained, we'll not provide a commentary on is an commentary on what is an internal employment process and we'd urge people not to indulge in speculation . in speculation. >> ian well, we're going to indulge in that speculation because it's taxpayers money and we doing so. prime we don't mind doing so. prime minister has said we don't mind doing so. prime mini people has said we don't mind doing so. prime mini people should has said we don't mind doing so. prime mini people should not|s said we don't mind doing so. prime mini people should not be aid that people should not be criminalised stating simple

criminalised for stating simple facts on biology. i think we're going to be talking about that in just a moment. that's not the same issue, as huw edwards. but let's now scotland with let's go now to scotland with our reporter. tony mcguire is in glasgow. good morning tony. we've been talking about this story all morning. this legislation came into effect yesterday on the 1st of april. one might have thought it was an april fool's day joke because it is authoritarian is so authoritarian in its ambition. the idea that you could be having a private conversation over sunday lunch at home in the privacy of your own home, and if somebody's listening that conversation own home, and if somebody's listenirit that conversation own home, and if somebody's listenirit be|t conversation own home, and if somebody's listenirit be stirringrsation own home, and if somebody's listenirit be stirring up ion deems it to be stirring up hatred somebody of these hatred against somebody of these protected characteristics, the police could knock on the door . police could knock on the door. i'm not exaggerating, am i? is anyone arrested yet? anyone being arrested yet? >> good morning. well, i am certainly. police scotland had put out a notice last night to say that, they are unable at this point to give a notice of how many people or how many reports have been made , or how reports have been made, or how many people have been approached

directly . and i would wager that directly. and i would wager that probably no one has been arrested yet. and typically for legislation on this, we see some kind of settling in an adjustment period , and nobody adjustment period, and nobody more needs more adjustment than police scotland at the minute. now they have been very vocal about their concerns for this. they're concerned that the nature of the bill will turn the pubuc nature of the bill will turn the public against them. they are concerned that their officers are already stretched to the limit . and of course, this bill limit. and of course, this bill is already in place. so this the new legislation began yesterday at midnight and over yesterday we saw protests spring up at holyrood . hundreds of people holyrood. hundreds of people arrived, all from different people . now we had the family people. now we had the family party, we had the alba party , party, we had the alba party, andindeed party, we had the alba party, and indeed we had pastors representing their communities across scotland. and all the while , people are still asking while, people are still asking these questions, which you

mentioned there. what can i say? what can i not say? what is a hate crime? what can i say in my own home? and certainly that is something that the equality network have tried to tap into. they put out a post yesterday that said that a hate crime really has to make somebody feel unsafe. so what we saw from jk rowling yesterday in her mammoth 11 post twitter and tweet or post, that will probably be okay. as far as the legal quandary goes . oh, okay. quandary goes. oh, okay. >> all right. thank you tony. tony mcguire there in scotland. >> right. we got a bit confused there. we were talking about huw edwards initially and then we went to scotland. but let's go back to huw edwards it's back to huw edwards who it's been revealed is still been revealed today is still getting around 450 k a year getting paid around 450 k a year of licence payer cash, of licence fee payer cash, despite being suspended pending investigation over that nude images scandal with the young lad. >> now look , he's not been found >> now look, he's not been found guilty of anything. he remains a

free man. there's no suggestion of any sort of criminal impropriety, let's say. but does he have an obligation, do you think? does he have a moral imperative to say, stop my salary? i'm not well enough to work, but he's not going to do that when he's paid 450 grand yeah >> so the problem is, let's just clarify why he won't and can't engagein clarify why he won't and can't engage in the bbc's investigation , because he says investigation, because he says that the incident has sparked a bout of mental illness, so the bbc can't conclude their investigation . they can't sack investigation. they can't sack him because if they sack someone who's mentally ill and something goes wrong, i mean, they're in a world of trouble, so they're in a rock and a hard place, yet he's still getting paid 430 odd a rock and a hard place, yet hea; still getting paid 430 odd a rock and a hard place, yet h

happens. but it clearly needs sorting quite quickly. >> the other debate there is , >> the other debate there is, should he be allowed to avoid an investigation citing mental health? is that just an easy way out? how do we know he is actually suffering mental health problems? >> i mean, if you've been publicly humiliated in that way and that story's been leaked as and that story's been leaked as a married man, that you were engaging the exchange engaging in the exchange of photographs , doubt be photographs, no doubt you'd be stressed photographs, no doubt you'd be strebuti photographs, no doubt you'd be stre but do you know what i photographs, no doubt you'd be strebut do you know what i mean? >> but do you know what i mean? like, i think i think i think licence fee payers have a right to know exactly what going on to know exactly what is going on with edwards. and with huw edwards. and i think it's on huw edwards his it's on huw edwards and his lawyers his family and the lawyers and his family and the bbc bit more transparent. >> let know think at >> let us know what you think at home. vaiews@gbnews.com. theresa has in touch theresa has got in touch about this flag. going this olympic flag. we're going to little while to be talking in a little while to be talking in a little while to olympic athlete. to another olympic athlete. theresa said. this is horrible. how can the national flag be defaced and be allowed to get away with it? everything that is british to be being british seems to be being undermined easter and undermined christmas, easter and now national symbol. oh you now our national symbol. oh you missed all that, didn't you?

>> the gesture eggs did you get? oh, no. >> i saw gesture eggs that was on thursday. yeah, that was a heartwarming moment, wasn't it? >> i sincerely hope >> kathy says i sincerely hope the joke. why do we the flag is a joke. why do we have keep trying muck have to keep trying to muck around england great around with england and great britain? this. britain? just stop this. >> stannis morning, >> and stannis said, morning, stan. many stan. let's see how many athletes have a tattoo. athletes have that as a tattoo. after earlier after the games we spoke earlier to mark foster, five time olympic swimmer, and mark has the flag tattooed on his the olympic flag tattooed on his chest. think it is. chest. actually, i think it is. yeah it is. and the and the and the roses. lot of olympic the roses. a lot of olympic athletes have olympic athletes do have the olympic flag oh, the ring flag as a tattoo. oh, the ring may have purpley may not have the purpley squiggly one. squiggly pinky bluey one. >> and sarah says just to provide some balance. no one had a problem with it in 2012 or 20 16 or 2020. so why now? so much fake outrage from the snowflakes? >> it's a good question, sarah. i think because it feels like and i don't like the feels i prefer facts over feels, but i guess it feels like just another example of where the majority i think of the population, are trying to hold on to and define a british identity and what that

means, unashamedly and embarrassingly , to be british embarrassingly, to be british and one of the one of the few things we have is our union jack flag. i mean, we do it beautifully here at gb news. now, you might say this is a distortion , but this is mere distortion, but this is mere branding, right? aren't branding, right? but we aren't stood on the podium at the olympics. >> it's still got the colours, you've red, you've got you've got the red, you've got the blue, purple the white and the blue, purple and know. is it and pink, pink. you know. is it and pink, pink. you know. is it a nod? is it a nod to the lgbt community? is it about diversity and pride? >> well, the marketing company and pride? >> isell, the marketing company and pride? >> is a, the marketing company and pride? >> is a diversearketing company and pride? >> is a diverse representation ny say is a diverse representation of was that word diverse? >> that's what gets my spidey senses tingling. >> well, up next, adidas says it is going to block any german football shirt featuring the number amid concerns that it number 44, amid concerns that it has a resemblance to the ss nazi symbol, come on, that's ridiculous, isn't it? if this is about context, if it's a mistake, it doesn't isn't meant to in engender any harm or cause any upset. is that really bad? let us know. this is britain's newsroom on .

gb news. >> 1117 on gb news. >>1117 on britain's gb news. >> 1117 on britain's newsroom. ben leo in for andrew pierce. and i'm joined by the lovely bev turner who's back from her easter break full of chocolate and a little too much and a little bit too much prosecco on a birthday weekend. >> joined now by gb >> right. we're joined now by gb news political news senior political commentator nelson, former commentator nigel nelson, former adviser johnson, lord adviser to boris johnson, lord kelvin, kelvin in adviser to boris johnson, lord kelystudio. kelvin in adviser to boris johnson, lord kelystudio. right,�*| in adviser to boris johnson, lord kelystudio. right, gentlemen, the studio. right, gentlemen, should start this german should we start with this german football nigel, football shirt story? nigel, explain this to us. >> the german one. well, we have two controversies. running, running side by side. but the german controversy is that adidas has produced football shirts with the number 44 on them. but unfortunately, the way it looks is the old, nazi ss

symbol. and as a result, adidas say, well, we didn't know what we were doing, that that wasn't the intention. but they've now stopped selling those shirts to supporters . that's just supporters. that's just ridiculous, and next year might take over anyway, so it may be it's adidas that made the team gb or are making the team gb kit right for the olympics? >> yes, yes , they always have. >> yes, yes, they always have. >> yes, yes, they always have. >> which is the second controversy. >> covid should common sense prevail at a time like this? it's about intent. surely with a symbol, is it intended to look like the ss symbol? >> it does look like the ss symbol and there is a problem with that. but the real problem here is adidas should be doing its due diligence on design before putting these things out there. and i've worked in industry where look at industry where we look at design, production, imagery, all of kind of stuff is it of that kind of stuff is it really matters what things look like . and when you look at these like. and when you look at these 44 symbol, it does look like an ss symbol. and i think there is a problem. so this isn't about people being overtly sensitive

because we know these things matter. they can they can drive certain people to start becoming lightning rods for that kind of horrible undertone. so adidas needs to do better and it shouldn't just leave it to a last minute. oh god, we've done this wrong. they should have. and it says something about what's on. ben, you're what's going on. ben, you're saying the gb shirt saying even with the gb shirt issue, there seems to be something about adidas due diligence isn't diligence on design that isn't working moment. diligence on design that isn't worthere's moment. diligence on design that isn't worthere's no moment. diligence on design that isn't worthere's no suggestion, is >> there's no suggestion, is there, that this has been deliberate, nigel? >> , no, not at all. >> no, no, not at all. >> i mean, what they're >> i mean, no, what they're saying one realised until saying is no one realised until you about stages you think about how many stages of consideration something like that would go through, have pointed and said, oh, that pointed to it and said, oh, that looks a bit an ss symbol. looks a bit like an ss symbol. >> you know what i bet >> but you know what idea? i bet there's a room of millennials who either don't what ss who either don't know what an ss symbol they've got no symbol is because they've got no understanding of history. >> because, know, understanding of history. >> see because, know, understanding of history. >> see ofecause, know, understanding of history. >> see of corporates know, we see a lot of corporates junior and junior rising, you know, and there's ization thing there's a junior ization thing going senior people maybe going on. senior people maybe not. even the short not. so there even the short short instead short circuit instead of how people through authorisation

people go through authorisation on these things, we've seen it happenin on these things, we've seen it happen in a lot of corporations . happen in a lot of corporations. and that's how sometimes this kind can get through. kind of thing can get through. if don't have a bit of grey if you don't have a bit of grey hair beard, love a bit hair or grey beard, love a bit of hair, then sometimes of grey hair, then sometimes these things happen. >> in germany >> yeah, i think in germany you'd that actually it you'd think that actually it would i mean, would be because, i mean, there's fuss germany there's such a fuss in germany about, say, swastika, which about, say, the swastika, which is think in is banned, you'd think in germany they'd be really aware of something and of something like this, and maybe somebody in the room does think that it a problem, but think that it is a problem, but they they can't say it they feel they can't say it because of people like you calling clamps down on calling for more clamps down on free well, don't want free speech. well, i don't want to see a clamp down on free speech, but i'm not sure having an ss symbol is actually part of the speech argument, but the free speech argument, but it's good point about people it's a good point about people being confident call being confident enough to call out things as out where they see things as being out where they see things as beiiyou know, must have >> you know, you must have experienced. have the experienced. you must have the culture that enables people to say not. say they're not. >> look at pandemic. four >> look at the pandemic. four years ago, most people thought a lot the going on lot of the things going on dunng lot of the things going on during and from during the pandemic and from governments during the pandemic and from governmenthere were too wrong, but there were too scared. they too scared of scared. they were too scared of losing their jobs and, know,

losing their jobs and, you know, losing their jobs and, you know, losing status losing losing their jobs and, you know, losin friendsstatus losing losing their jobs and, you know, losin friends to tus losing losing their jobs and, you know, losin friends to speak losing losing their jobs and, you know, losin friends to speak out. ing their friends to speak out. >> we're not quite come out >> and we're not quite come out of hangover of that. think of the hangover of that. i think people this, this, people are scared. this, this, this you're allowed this phrase, you're not allowed to really gained to say that really gained momentum, it, during that momentum, didn't it, during that penod momentum, didn't it, during that period right? should we period of time, right? should we do chat ? shall we do some cannabis chat? shall we have a chat at you, bev? shall we? should it be legalised? nigel. it has been in germany. >> well, it's been decriminalised. >> sorry. it's an important distinction. >> decriminalised. so amongst a number of other countries, portugal , for instance, now has portugal, for instance, now has decriminalised all drugs . so decriminalised all drugs. so cocaine, heroin. and the result there has been quite been quite promising that heroin addiction went down from 100,000 to 25,000 people. hiv infection went down 90. so there have been some positives and some negatives. there have been issues over drug addicts outside schools . so it's addicts outside schools. so it's not been perfect there, the answer is i think we should look at decriminalising . we're not

at decriminalising. we're not controlling it as a, as a criminal justice matter. and really drugs should be a public health matter. >> covid why is it the tories think this is such a vote loser ? think this is such a vote loser? because in actual fact, we're so far behind a lot of the western world when it comes to cannabis. >> i wouldn't that, >> well, i wouldn't say that, ben. think we're that ben. i don't think we're that far personally, i've far behind. and personally, i've always of the of the view always been of the of the view that we shouldn't decriminalise drugs. think there is a war on drugs. i think there is a war on drugs. i think there is a war on drugs that people will debate. yeah, i think even cannabis, because what seen it because from what i've seen it opens the pathway to other drugs. and as soon as you go down that slippery slope, i know there are some advantages as nigel's highlighted, but portugal also portugal mixed view. i've also seen the results in the us in certain states where decriminalisation of cannabis has happened. it isn't a panacea. it isn't the way that we think it will help us deal with this scourge of society, that alcohol is legal in this country and cannabis is not, but alcohol . yes. look, we can alcohol. yes. look, we can compare the two drugs, alcohol is not taking you down the

pathway to heroin , but the pathway to heroin, but the pathway to heroin, but the pathway to heroin, but the pathway to alcoholism. yes i agree, but. so we wouldn't deny. >> addicts in this country are alcoholics rather than rather than drug addicts. so it seems odd to have a law whereby you ban one soft drug and allow another . another. >> i think we can always have that debate and society where it is because alcohol is embedded in our society for hundreds of years and so forth. years and so on and so forth. and if we were going to do it again, we might not do it. although we did prohibition although we did see prohibition not in us, i think we not work in the us, i think we have prohibition cannabis have the prohibition of cannabis hasn't well, hasn't worked in the uk. well, prohibition in prohibition hasn't worked in some of us states as well. some of the us states as well. if look colorado, if you if you look at colorado, if you look if you look look at california, if you look at some the things that are at some of the things that are happening there, happening in the cities there, well, your measure well, what what's your measure of because have taken >> because colorado have taken in amounts of tax money in untold amounts of tax money that are, know, that the coffers are, you know, bursting at seams with, with. >> yes, i went to denver a few years look at what years ago and had a look at what was there the was going on there and the implications that were for implications that there were for society for increased in homeless , more people homeless people, more people utilising homeless people, more people

utilisirthat was leading them. as where that was leading them. as a society, i think it's not the panacea, it doesn't end in a place where we can say, well, this works, let's go this way. so as you're saying, we're not quite far behind the rest of the west world. i think the jury's out on this. what do need to west world. i think the jury's outisn this. what do need to west world. i think the jury's outis continue 1at do need to west world. i think the jury's outis continue the do need to west world. i think the jury's outis continue the crackdown, to do is continue the crackdown, continue the education young continue the education for young people of people about the implications of these think these drugs. and i think by decriminalising that doesn't set the right tone and the truth that the so—called war on drugs has spectacularly failed. >> yes. >> yes. >> well , i >> yes. >> well, i think >> yes. >> well , i think spectacular >> yes. >> well, i think spectacular is there's a demand, there's a market, and therefore we continue to have to fight this thing. but but it's the educational point, the damage. if we talk about the damage that alcohol does to people's, to the health we have to talk health system, we have to talk about it in a similar way around drugs. i think that has gone away for a bit. >> we need to bring that back and we need to young people, and we need to for young people, particularly, other particularly, give them other things aren't drugs, things to do that aren't drugs, give give job give them sports, give them job opportunities, give them a reason want to get stoned reason not to want to get stoned at work drinking less. >> nowadays are before. >> nowadays they are before. right? and that's not

right? because. and that's not because alcohol. right? because. and that's not becau because alcohol. right? because. and that's not becau because the alcohol. right? because. and that's not becau because the educational yeah, because the educational side of alcohol, the impact of it has worked. think, you it has worked. i think, you know, of handling know, a similar way of handling drugs, should we talk drugs, right. should we talk about this union jack flag being distorted for the olympics? nigel, it feels like a day of symbols, isn't it? >> isn't it just. yeah i can't say i'm hugely bothered about it, but my preference would be a proper union jack. i just think that if you're sending your national team out, they should go in the national colours. the national colour is the union jack. and that should stay unmolested. >> basically, i have to say i am slightly bothered about it because when we think about the olympics or international events and we see the union jack , we and we see the union jack, we and we see the union jack, we and the rest of the world recognise that as great britain. if it doesn't look like the union jack, are we confusing ourselves and the rest of the world about who we are? >> yeah, well, somebody from the website, the design website that have come up with this, the statement is, as with many

sports brands, colour was a point of contention. i don't think it normally is. you normally go with the colour of the club or the country, right? obviously red, white and blue is synonymous britain, synonymous with great britain, but from with but it's far from unique with nafions but it's far from unique with nations france and usa nations such as france and usa also sporting the same colours . also sporting the same colours. again, this feels like the madness committee meeting madness of a committee meeting where one has put their hand where no one has put their hand up and gone. hang on a minute, the union doesn't like the union jack doesn't look like the union jack doesn't look like the flag. the french flag. >> i'd this. >> i'd like this. >> i'd like this. >> we all know. can all know >> we all know. we can all know the. like to see would the. i'd like to see what would happen france if they messed happen in france if they messed around with a tricolour. >> us if the star >> or in the us if the star spangled. if, know the flag >> or in the us if the star sparchanged know the flag >> or in the us if the star sparchanged to know the flag >> or in the us if the star sparchanged to suchw the flag >> or in the us if the star sparchanged to such a the flag >> or in the us if the star sparchanged to such a degree; was changed to such a degree that recognise that people couldn't recognise it. something it. i think there's something about you about artistic license. if you want interesting want to do something interesting on create funny logo, on shirts, create a funny logo, etc. etc. the itself etc. etc. but the flag itself needs to stay consistent because that's who we are. >> is on a deeper level, >> is this on a deeper level, this wouldn't happen with any other we've already other country we've already identified that saudi arabia, china, just wouldn't china, it just wouldn't happen. is this a sign what many is this a sign of what many people calling a deliberate people are calling a deliberate and gradual erasure of british society? british identity and

culture? >> yeah, it's a good challenge, ben, i hope not. i think we should have the debate. we should have the debate. we should discuss it. but there are certain fundamental rules that we need to retain respect in we need to retain and respect in our in our country. the our society. in our country. the flag should one them. flag should be one of them. let's have the debate. but let's come back to then recognising why important , what it why it's important, what it means to us, what it means to the rest world, and why the rest of the world, and why it the same. it should remain the same. >> really, it really it should remain the same. >> like, really, it really it should remain the same. >> like, nigel,ally, it really it should remain the same. >> like, nigel, thatit really it should remain the same. >> like, nigel, that thisilly feels like, nigel, that this country is becoming a bit of country is, is becoming a bit of a doormat in more ways than one. we've got companies owned we've got water companies owned by pumping by foreign shareholders pumping filth into our seas. >> i'd naturalise those so there are you've got you've got uncontrolled mass legal migration. >> got a housing crisis, >> you've got a housing crisis, you've got tens of thousands of illegal crossing the illegal migrants crossing the channel. then channel. nothing works. then they're our they're desecrating our christian traditions, then they're desecrating our flag. it all kind of feels people are saying this is a deliberate, you know , push to. know, push to. >> i'd love to let you answer, but rishi sunak has to speak. unfortunately so, gentlemen, just here. sorry. just stay right here. i'm sorry. nigel, rishi nigel, some breaking news. rishi sunak to

sunak has been speaking to reporters care reporters about his child care provision. what he provision. let's hear what he had say . had to say. >> it's a really positive week for the expansion of our child care offer to support families, giving them the choice of how to best juggle child care and their career. and we're moving towards a system where working parents will 30 hours of free will have 30 hours of free childcare from the time that maternity ends at nine maternity leave ends at nine months for their little one, all the way to four years when they start this week, it's start school this week, it's being expanded to two year olds. that's i've that's really positive. i've been for been talking to families for whom make a big whom that's going to make a big difference. fully funded the difference. we fully funded the programme increase rates programme and increase the rates that paying to nurseries, that we're paying to nurseries, making that there more making sure that there are more childcare available , more childcare places available, more childcare places available, more childcare available and childcare places available, more chilfuture available and childcare places available, more chilfuture looksvailable and childcare places available, more chilfuture looks brighte and childcare places available, more chilfuture looks bright . and childcare places available, more chilfuture looks bright . and the future looks bright. and this is a really positive intervention which, when it's fully out, will worth fully rolled out, will be worth around £7,000 support around £7,000 worth of support to parents. to working parents. >> and are these places guaranteed? >> yes, these places. >> yes, these places. >> so that was rishi sunak this morning, being very excited about care provision . about his child care provision. but kolvir it doesn't offer choice to parents. all it's offering us is the choice,

perhaps to put your kid in nursery. some people want to pay a childminder or a granny or a family member to look after their children. >> i think you're right, bev, and i've got young children. i know the challenges that are involved the cost involved in this. the cost that's in this, but involved in this. the cost thatis in this, but involved in this. the cost thatis trying in this, but involved in this. the cost that is trying toin this, but involved in this. the cost that is trying to helps, but involved in this. the cost that is trying to help getting this is trying to help getting those 100, 150,000 more places available . and i think it's also available. and i think it's also part of the broader fiscal challenge and benefit that this prime minister and chancellor are to get in to the are trying to get in to the minds of the british public. this the unpaid carers leave the knee cut from 10% to 8. the increase the triple lock on pensioners . i increase the triple lock on pensioners. i know increase the triple lock on pensioners . i know we heard pensioners. i know we heard about fiscal drag. there's a lot that they're trying to do to show how they're helping abroad , show how they're helping abroad, broad spectrum of society fiscally, and i think that's why the prime minister wants more time to get these things embedded . and they are things embedded. and they are things that are helping people and will help their pockets. help in their pockets. plus let's is dealing let's not forget he is dealing with inflationary challenge with that inflationary challenge . he is helping bring that down. >> but not enough >> okay, but not enough childcare places, nigel. that's

the problem, what you've got to do is to make this system work. you've got to you've got to make sure the childcare places are there, they've there, that they've got the staff look after them . and staff to look after them. and that's been the problem. so you've money thing, you've got the money thing, which . i've the which i welcome. i've got the money thing what you money thing going in. what you haven't the places to go haven't got is the places to go with needs proper organisation. >> save the children. the charity been for charity has been calling for a children's minister. can you take that up with the boss? >> there isn't one. >> there isn't one. >> well , you know, there's >> well, you know, there's a call for another minister. >> think there's always >> i think there's always a question okay, where that question of okay, where is that role sitting the moment? and role sitting at the moment? and i'd across i'd expect it to sit across a number of different departments in those in terms of where those responsibilities used to have. >> one, we used to have a children's you to children's minister. you used to used the department of used to sit in the department of education, it's about education, but then it's about whether the dwp, whether it's in also the dwp, because the department because a lot of the department for and, and because a for welfare and, and because a lot policies will come lot of the policies will come through there. >> to get this >> so you start to get this minister that's sort of cross cuts, i think let's focus cuts, which i think let's focus on let's get the on the policies. let's get the right place. right policies in place. >> waiting for but >> sam's waiting for us. but which government was under? which government was that under? who introduced the childcare minister? do you remember children's minister tim lawton,

not care. not child care. >> minister was >> children's minister was children's when he was children's minister when he was the education. the department of education. >> is pm? >> and who is pm? >> and who is pm? >> pm would be david cameron then. >> e- e“ e nigel. that's >> okay. thank you nigel. that's why paid the big bucks why you get paid the big bucks to political. no, no at to be our political. no, no at all. let's go to sam. sam all. right, let's go to sam. sam francis headlines. he's francis with the headlines. he's waiting . us. waiting for. us. >> bev and ben, thank you very much. and good morning from the gb news room. it'sjust much. and good morning from the gb news room. it's just gone 11:30, and i want to start with some breaking news that we're getting this morning out of finland, where we understand a child aged just 12 has been taken into custody after a child of the same age, also 12, has been killed in a primary school shooting. another three children, also 12, were wounded in that shooting at the primary school outside helsinki. a police spokesperson has said that the victims have been taken to hospital, while the building was cordoned off this morning, the finnish prime minister has said that he is deeply shocked and saddened by the incident,

and saddened by the incident, and that his thoughts are with the victims and their families. we will keep across that for you. of course, throughout the rest of the day. lord david cameron says that israel must explain how seven aid workers, including a british citizen, were killed in an airstrike in gaza. the group were travelling in two armoured cars marked with the world central kitchen logo. that charity, the ngo has claimed that israel's defence forces carried out the attack despite coordinating their movements with the military speaking moments ago, prime minister rishi sunak says there must be a transparent investigation. >> shocked and saddened to hear the reported deaths of aid workers in gaza . we're urgently workers in gaza. we're urgently working to confirm all the details, but my thoughts right now with their friends and family, they're doing fantastic work bringing alleviation to the suffering that many are experiencing in gaza. they should be praised and commended for what they're doing. they need to be allowed to do that work unhindered and it's incumbent on israel to make sure

that can do that. and we're that they can do that. and we're asking to investigate that they can do that. and we're askinhappened investigate that they can do that. and we're askin happened urgently, te that they can do that. and we're askin happened urgently, because what happened urgently, because clearly there questions that what happened urgently, because clear|to :here questions that what happened urgently, because clear|to :heranswered ;tions that what happened urgently, because clear|to:heranswered .ions that need to be answered. >> and the prime minister is also backing jk rowling after she criticised a new hate crime law in scotland . it came into law in scotland. it came into effect yesterday and outlaws hatred against people on certain grounds, including age, disability, sexuality and people who are transgender. but the author says the law risks silencing genuine debate on issues around gender and women's rights. rishi sunak has backed her concerns , saying that people her concerns, saying that people should not be criminalised for stating simple facts on biology . stating simple facts on biology. for the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. com slash alerts . slash alerts. >> up at noon it is good afternoon britain . emily and tom afternoon britain. emily and tom are here to tell us what's

coming up on the show today. guys got lots coming up. >> good morning. lots coming up, in guardian it's been in the guardian today, it's been reported a letter has been reported that a letter has been signed by 60 organisations, including the refugee council, including the refugee council, including law firms, to essentially calling on the government to introduce a ukraine style visa scheme for palestinians trapped in gaza. now, there's quite a lot of detail on this. they're calling for visas so that people can perhaps reunite with family members in this country. and this is a question so far, the government have refused such a thing. first minister in thing. the first minister in humza wants such a scheme humza yousaf wants such a scheme in so we'll be in scotland, so we'll be debating that's good debating whether that's a good idea . idea. >> so are they calling for just the uk or are european the uk or are the european countries? uk, british countries? well the uk, british organisations calling countries? well the uk, british org britainyns calling countries? well the uk, british org britain to calling countries? well the uk, british org britain to step calling countries? well the uk, british orgbritain to step up calling countries? well the uk, british orgbritain to step up inalling countries? well the uk, british orgbritain to step up in this] area. >> and it's interesting because now that a brit has been killed in gaza, as we learn in a strike in gaza, as we learn in a strike in an aid convoy, this political pressure is mounting. >> and the question is, is it the right thing to do ? and do we the right thing to do? and do we have, frankly, the facilities to

enable such a scheme after, of course, over 100,000 people taken from ukraine, over 100,000 people taken from hong kong, tens of thousands of people from afghanistan . varne the question afghanistan. varne the question is, at what point do we say actually on the humanitarian front, this country gone as front, this country has gone as far as we can. >> gaza a terror hotspot, would it be a national security risk to have such a visa scheme coming into the uk at this time? >> who cares when got >> who cares when we've got 40,000 boats across every 40,000 boats coming across every year? throwing their year? people throwing their passports channel. passports in the channel. it no one about national. one cares about national. >> a >> they want. they want a special they want a get them special in. they want a get them all special visa, visa scheme all in special visa, visa scheme burn visa scheme burn a special visa scheme for those tracks. >> there's other big question. >> don't give up, ben. >> don't give up, ben. >> i'm sorry. mean, i think >> i'm sorry. i mean, i think he's exasperation. he's hit peak exasperation. >> quite the morning >> it's been quite the morning here. let tell you, that's security. >> national security has gone out four years ago. >> oh no no no no, you're right. i mean, he's actually quite a lot of security in this country now going to now because we're going to police important thing police the most important thing of is speech. of all, which is speech. >> gets us into our >> and this gets us into our other big story that we're covering jk rowling

covering today, will jk rowling be to prison for a series be sent to prison for a series of tweets challenging the scottish government and the scottish government and the scottish police force to arrest her for breaching this this new hate crime , act as it is now in hate crime, act as it is now in scotland. and a bigger question leading on from that, it wasn't just the snp that put this act into force in the scottish parliament. it was voted for a couple of years ago, not just by the snp or the scottish greens , the snp or the scottish greens, but the scottish lib dems and the scottish labour party as well . so questions will those well. so questions will those parties , sister parties in the parties, sister parties in the rest of the united kingdom pursue similar legislation at westminster? >> do you get the feeling? emily she wants jk rowling wants a court trial . it will be the court trial. it will be the trial of the century. let's have this out. let's have this ideology out. facts in court. >> would see that. ben >> i would love to see that. ben of course, i do not want her to be arrested. but if she were to be, she would put up a very strong defence and she'd provide her own defence. she's the perfect person. >> the finance do >> she's got the finance to do it, understands the

it, and she understands the words. anybody's to words. if anybody's going to take should jk take them, it should be jk rowling, from rowling, right? that all from midday. still coming up midday. but still coming up we're be talking to we're going to be talking to fatima the fatima whitbread about the olympic and olympic british flag and inflation going down. don't go anywhere

i >> -- >> it's 1140. you're with ben >> it's1140. you're with ben leo for in andrew pierce on britain's newsroom and bev turner. now is the cost of living crisis finally easing inflation. in short, prices has dropped to its lowest level since december 2021 as shoppers cut down on spending . cut down on spending. >> well, figures show that the drop was driven by falling food costs and competition between retailers. it retailers. but how much does it affect the average british consumer? liam halligan here consumer? liam halligan is here to more for . consumer? liam halligan is here to more for. us. is that to explain more for. us. is that right? liam is it because we're

spending we're spending less? i don't think we're spending less. >> what's happening is this seems to me unofficial numbers, british retail consortium numbers. >> this isn't office for national statistics or anything that provided by the government. this strikes me as the may i say, the beginning of the end of the cost of living crisis. of course, lots of people are still suffering, prices are still going up, but prices during the year preliminary year to march, preliminary numbers from the british retail consortium, prices during the year march were up 1.3, which year to march were up 1.3, which is below the bank of england's 2% inflation target. if these unofficial numbers then translate into official numbers, then we're looking at interest rate cuts soon. let's just have a quick look at and on the money graphic. it wouldn't be on the money without a graphic, would it. year to march shop it. so in the year to march shop prices, went up by just 1.3. that's the lowest rate of inflation since the end of 2011. that's down from 2.5% the month

before, 5.2% in february. the energy price cap, which comes in, at the beginning of this month, that's falling by 12% to £1,690 a year. it's another reason why, when the official inflation number comes out for march on the 17th of april, it's likely to be relatively low. and that's why i think we can now say from june, that's when i think we're going to get the first interest rate cut from 5.25% of the money markets. now agreeing with that, it seems as if the stars are aligning for lower interest rates. >> from june, there was talk. we'd get something like 4 or 5 interest rate cuts from the bank of england this year is that i don't think i don't think 4 or 5, ben, but maybe 2 or 3. >> that's certainly the tories have been wanting that for a long time. that's their only real election strategy to the extent have one, is to wait extent they have one, is to wait until there are 2 or 3 interest rate cuts by the end of this year and also hopefully they can

get another tax cut in as they see it from september or october is, is it right, though, liam, to say that it doesn't mean that pnces to say that it doesn't mean that prices in the shops are going to come down, they're just not going up as quick as it means dunng going up as quick as it means during the year to march, unofficially, prices up by unofficially, prices went up by just which is a very low just 1.3, which is a very low rate of inflation. it's below the bank of england's 2% target. >> think any of us who've done >> i think any of us who've done a of shopping in last a basket of shopping in the last year say that just can't year would say that just can't be true. >> supermarkets just >> so our supermarkets just taking of fact taking advantage of the fact that we they were going higher. >> well, so price gouging >> well, so some price gouging going within within that 1.3% increase in prices, food prices over the last month have actually been coming down. >> right. but we you know, food price inflation got up to 20% this time last year. so food pnces this time last year. so food prices have clearly been at the centre of this cost of living crisis, as have energy prices. you know , during this period, you know, during this period, transport prices in real terms in some cases have come down, you know, some service sector,

industry costs have come down. but food and energy, the two real necessities of life , real necessities of life, they've been at the centre of this cost of living crisis. but there are now signs that food pnces there are now signs that food prices are easing and energy pnces prices are easing and energy prices are easing and energy prices are easing and energy prices are easing too. not least with their ofgem energy price cap down from just the cap coming down from just the beginning of this week. but look, there's a long to go look, there's a long way to go and of households will and lots of households will still feel that they're struggling. >> okay, liam, thank you much >> okay, liam, thank you so much . fatima whitbread . still to come fatima whitbread is to be with us, ladies is going to be with us, ladies and to about and gentlemen, to talk about whether olympic it's whether the olympic flag, it's olympic course, should olympic year of course, should be white and blue with be red, white and blue with britain's newsroom on

gb news. so, another rebranding of a flag. team gb's union jack has turned a little bit pink and a little bit purple. yeah, and a supporters flag for the paris olympics this year. >> this is the design. is it

going to make the official kit? however we're going to talk now to olympic legend . to olympic legend. >> she was also in i'm a celebrity contestant from 2011 fatima whitbread, but also fatima whitbread, but also fatima good morning. it's so lovely to see you. let's just reflect a bit on your amazing achievements though as an olympian, because you were the first brit to hold a world record in a throwing event, you were the first woman to throw more than 250ft with your javelin. you've got an mba and you've got this world record. throw in 1986 european athletics championships. so you have worn that kit with pride . what would that kit with pride. what would you say if they gave you a kit to wear that had a flag on it that was not red, white or blue? >> i'd have to ask, what's the meaning of the colours and why? because jack was because the union jack was adopted 223 years ago in 19. in 1801. and the union jack is traditionally a symbol of, the national pride and unity. i mean

, let's let's look at it. i mean, the georgia flag is made up of the following. the george cross of england . it's also cross of england. it's also made. saint andrew's cross of scotland and saint patrick's cross of ireland. so this makes up the union jack, the united kingdom. so i'm not sure why they want to change it, because let's face it, when you look at the colours as well, red is symbolises bravery, strength and valour. white represents peace and honesty and blue represents, vigilance , justice, loyalty and vigilance, justice, loyalty and observance , yeah, but is there observance, yeah, but is there anything about what a pink squiggle represents? >> fatima? does it not really. >> fatima? does it not really. >> i mean, i was proud to stand on the, rostrum and see that union jack go up and, you know, i think it's really a question that everybody's got to ask themselves is, what is the meaning of this change? because it is. the union jack has been there for 223 years. why change

it now? >> so fatima, just intuitively, what do you interpret the meaning of this change to be? because a lot of people are saying it's a nod to maybe the lgbt yes lgbt community? yes >> i mean, look, lgbt community is one thing. so too is if you want to get down to van—tam this uk campaign, no organisation or no aid agency should be bigger or more important than the union jack itself. i mean, it's a red, white and blue always has been. it's symbolic of what we nationalistic know of our country and embraces everything in a nationalistic framework. so why change it if that is the case? well, any organisation or agency, it shouldn't be their logic. >> fatima from the design company said that red, white and blue is obviously synonymous with great britain, but it's far from unique because france and america have the same colours. so they decided to refresh them, change it, don't change ours.

>> i'm absolutely disgusted to think that they've done it actually, without actually, you know, let's face it, it's been it represents our late queen. it represents, you know, the everything that that embrace is what's good about our country. you know , as years have gone by, you know, as years have gone by, you know, and i feel strongly about that. i do think it's, you know. no, no , no way should they know. no, no, no way should they have just gone ahead and changed the symbolic country's colours. it's national pride and unity. and, you know, as far as i'm concerned , have you spoken to concerned, have you spoken to any of your your fellow olympians about this? >> and also, additionally, do you get the feeling that our national identity is being eroded away in various aspects? >> as you see, as years go by, there's something else that comes up or crops up, whether it be, you know, the, the lgbt, q or whether it be something else, you know, organisation or agencies. it's not about that.

it's about our country. it's being proud to say we are great britain and red, white and blue has been that since 2223 years ago. 1801 so why change it? why is there a need to change it just because of other countries? we are what we are. we're not supposed to try and, march into something else. you know, in order to be individual. we are an individual country. we have red, white and blue in our colours and that's the way it should stay. >> and i wonder it's i do >> and i wonder if it's i do wonder, fatima, if it's a slightly a generational issue as well , because, you know, once well, because, you know, once you you feel you can you get older you feel you can assert your opinion in a situation and a lot of athletes particularly are quite young, aren't they ? quite infantilized aren't they? quite infantilized often by the sports, particularly now, probably more so than they were even in your day. i can't imagine them pulling on the tracksuit and feeling can say feeling that they can say anything in the way that you would have done. >> no, course not. and let's >> no, of course not. and let's face it, our forefathers who went war us and fought

went to war for us and fought for all the different things that we stand now in a that we stand for now in a generation that we are, you know, being before us, that shouldn't just be wiped out ehhehi shouldn't just be wiped out either. i mean, let's face it, at the end of the day, i'm proud to be british union jack is what it's all about for me. and national pride and unity. and it should be those younger ones should be for those younger ones to the history of to be built on the history of what as a as a nation, are what we as a as a nation, are proud to be. and as i said, get behind me. thank you, miss uk campaign for young children in the care system. i know you've spoken about it today and i'm doing every space camp for me that's get online support me fatma's campaign.com. >> fantastic. we will support you. and if you want to find that online ladies and gentlemen do fatima whitbread. so great to see you absolute british legend there. that is it from britain's newsroom today. always nice to finish on a high isn't it. i feel a bit warm in my heart. i'm going to be on jubes for michelle all this week, so i'll see 6:00. up next. good see you at 6:00. up next. good afternoon britain tom and

emily. >> it's nice to see a warm ending to your show. perhaps a chilling start to ours is free speech under threat across the uk? is j.k. rowling speech under threat across the uk? isj.k. rowling under threat uk? is j.k. rowling under threat 7 uk? is j.k. rowling under threat ? yes. >> and should britain open its arms to palestinian refugees trapped in gaza? we'll give you the details after the weather. looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news. >> hello. welcome to your latest gb news weather update brought to you by the met office across some central southern parts. >> there will be a bit of sunshine tomorrow, but otherwise it's looking pretty wet and there's some rain to come tonight as well. that's because we area of low pressure we have an area of low pressure to southwest of and that to the southwest of us, and that is driving feature northwards is driving a feature northwards as we go through the rest of today. ending the day across today. so ending the day across parts of northern ireland, northern dry northern england on a mostly dry note. rain in the southwest note. but rain in the southwest will feed its way across much of england. and into northern england. wales and into northern

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gb news. >> good afternoon. britain it's 12:00 on tuesday, the 2nd of april. >> rishi sunak has leapt to the defence of jk rowling after she dared the scottish police to arrest her over her views on transgender issues. could jk rowling actually find herself behind bars under humza yousafs new hate crime laws ? new hate crime laws? >> total woke nonsense. that's nigel farage slamming the team gb diverse rebrand of the union flag ahead of this summer's olympics , but designers claim olympics, but designers claim they're simply refreshing the colour palette . colour palette. >> and huw edwards is expected to be named the bbc's highest paid newsreader. despite being off for air eight months following his suspension over a

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