gb news. >> at 11:00. here with gb news and the latest news headlines, police scotland said today that j.k. rowling's social media posts on the new laws in scotland about hate crime and the importance of biological sex wouldn't be treated as criminal. the harry potter author posted on x saying, i hope every woman in scotland who wishes to speak up for the reality and importance of biological sex will be reassured by this announcement. and i trust that all women, irrespective of profile or financial means, will be treated equally under the law. well, the new law brought in yesterday aimed at banning hateful comments, but the harry potter author previously said it risked silencing genuine debate on issues around gender, as well asignonng on issues around gender, as well as ignoring the rights of women and girls. the prime minister backed jk rowling today , saying

backed jk rowling today, saying people shouldn't be criminalised for stating simple biological fact. the sports brand adidas will redesign its german football shirts featuring the number 44, amid concerns over a strong resemblance to the nazi ss symbol. the new kids were launched last month ahead of germany hosting the european championship, but a historian flagged similarities between the two logos and the ss. of course , two logos and the ss. of course, logo was nazi germany's elite military guard under hitler, the country's football association said it didn't spot the similarities when the design was approved , but it will now be approved, but it will now be changed. now the cost of a postage stamp is going up from today as royal mail moves to address a drop in demand, a first class stamp will now set you back £1.35. that's a rise of £0.10. and it's the same increase for second class, which now costs £0.85. 12 months ago, a first class stamp cost just £0.95 is the fourth price rise

in just two years, and comes after warnings that lower demand for postage is pushing up costs for postage is pushing up costs for royal mail . those are your for royal mail. those are your latest news stories for the very latest news stories for the very latest , sign latest news stories for the very latest, sign up to gb news alerts. scan the qr code on your screen or go to gb news .com/ alerts. time now for headliners . alerts. time now for headliners. >> hello and welcome to headliners with me, simon evans. >> just checked i'm not wearing hugo boss after that last story. >> joining me tonight are comedian stephen allen and cressida wetton. >> how are you both.7 >> how are you both.7 >> very well thank you simon. >> very well thank you simon. >> excellent. >> excellent. >> you're dressed in snp garb this steve in support of this evening steve in support of the hate speech laws. >> oh, i just tried to get my pen to match like pen to match my tie like i normally do. >> nicely done. >> nicely done. >> and you've come >> yeah. and you've just come back from scotland? >> yeah. and you've just come baci've»m scotland? >> yeah. and you've just come bac i've just cotland.7 >> yeah. and you've just come baci've just come d? >> yeah. and you've just come baci've just come back

>> i've just come back from scotland. >> i've just come back from scoyes,1. been bruce devlin. >> yes, i've been bruce devlin. >> yes, i've been bruce devlin. >> i've managed >> yeah, but i've managed to. >> yeah, but i've managed to. >> time hang out with >> every time you hang out with that young man, he's a good time, girl. >> you back looking >> you come back looking a little worn. >> you little worn. » you >> thank you very much. no, it was good. lovely comedy. was really good. lovely comedy. anneliese evening. nice. anneliese evening. very nice. >> you're >> excellent. well, you're fighting let's fighting the good fight. let's take look front pages, take a look at the front pages, the times kick us off with an outcry. it says at aid worker deaths. >> the telegraph have pm demands answers. after israel air strike kills britain's. the guardian charities halt gaza aid after drone attack kills seven staff. the express three britain's killed on gaza mercy mission . killed on gaza mercy mission. the eye news uk demands answers after israeli strike kills seven aid workers. and finally the daily star, who throw in the joker in the pack fridges are snitches. well, those were your front pages . so kicking off the

front pages. so kicking off the in—depth look into wednesday's front pages with the guardian, steve. >> yeah, i mean, most front pages have this, but they go with charities. >> halt gaza aid after drone attack kills seven staff. >> three britons among the dead. so you've got the issue of who's to blame for this event. this event that shouldn't have happened has happened . israel happened has happened. israel have said they're going to look into it. they're going to, they're going to look at their military ways of doing things to make doesn't happen make sure it doesn't happen again, you again, which is exactly what you should say this again, which is exactly what you shan d say this again, which is exactly what you shan event say this again, which is exactly what you shan event that say this again, which is exactly what you shan event that shouldn't ay this is an event that shouldn't happen. is terrible. these happen. it is terrible. these are that should are deaths that we should regret. and it to be regret. and it needs to be looked into so it never happens again. context that again. why do context take that step it's because there's step back? it's because there's a on and terrible a war going on and terrible things then things happen in wars. and then you the question about you can ask the question about why we still a war on why do we still have a war on either side? could do stuff. but i what, getting i tell you what, getting releasing would be releasing the hostages would be a well. so all a step forward as well. so all of are of of this, there are layers of blame. of this, there are layers of

bla certainly. fairly stark >> certainly. it's fairly stark footage, isn't it, it footage, though, isn't it, it does hard for to does seem it's hard for us to understand how, of course, how wars are conducted nowadays. we've all, of course, for centuries the fog of war has confused things, but it seems less plausible of an excuse when you can see for yourself on the screen exactly what somebody saw before the trigger was pulled by the look of it. well well, yeah, i don't, i still, i don't know, i don't, i still, i don't know, i don't, i still, i don't know, i don't know enough about how these things work. >> i don't know how i know , i >> i don't know how i know, i just feel really ignorant because i'm saying the footage is extraordinarily stark. >> like >> it's not it's not like a hospital blowing up and the and a he said she said about who was in the basement . these do look in the basement. these do look like assassinations. it's really, i mean, it's been going on for some time now and, there have been a lot, as you say , of have been a lot, as you say, of controversial and disputed claims that, that they haven't been as cautious as they they claim to be the world's most reliably focused and targeted military. do you think this is.

>> well, that's certainly what the guardian's trying to imply. i mean, the story beneath it is about snow vipers targeting children, so that's. yeah, that's very much the tone of it. >> what about the telegraph? anything different there , well, anything different there, well, they cover that as well. they've also got this story, raw over whether homeless could be whether homeless people could be arrested smell . so arrested because they smell. so this is, some proposed rough sleeping legislation . so this sleeping legislation. so this hasn't happened yet. and there's a bit of a row over this, the tories are sort of saying no, no, it's to make things better. it's about protecting the public, nuisance, which public, from nuisance, which could include to the could include damage to the environment, could mean environment, which could mean causing , smells, causing excessive noise, smells, litter deposits waste. litter or deposits of waste. and some saying , what are some people are saying, what are you doing? going back to the victorian times, punishing you doing? going back to the victoriaforimes, punishing you doing? going back to the victoriafor being punishing you doing? going back to the victoriafor being homeless. but people for being homeless. but it happened it hasn't happened yet. >> we're we covered this, >> no, we're we covered this, that there was a row in the tory party about it last night. steve, i don't know if it's moved on at all, but, there i mean, i think there is, some room for understanding that there's an escalation. i'm there's been an escalation. i'm not saying anyone really

believes it's a lifestyle choice, but on the other hand, like, other things, like, a lot of other things, like, a lot of other things, like another story we have coming the, if you coming up later, the, if you ease regulations, if ease ease regulations, if you ease off with policing , then it does off with policing, then it does seem to allow to grow, right? seem to allow it to grow, right? yeah >> but the kind of issues normally around homelessness, you the definition of you get into the definition of whether we're talking street homelessness or just a definition homelessness, definition of homelessness, which have access to which means you have access to some actually some benefits. but actually these on your these are living on your friend's yeah. if you friend's couches. yeah. if you smell public, we're smell in public, i think we're talking homelessness. talking street homelessness. i don't anyone ever don't think anyone has ever become homeless because they think, well, i won't get fined for it. don't think it's and for it. i don't think it's and this is what we're looking at. they're trying to rejig the vagrancy act, is a 200 vagrancy act, which is a 200 year okay. it needs year old law. okay. it needs tweaking. the idea that you tweaking. but the idea that you can your out of this is can find your way out of this is because these people don't necessarily money. if necessarily have money. and if they have and would they did have £2,000 and would find might end up find it, they might end up homeless. a minute. find it, they might end up horleless. a minute. find it, they might end up hori suppose a minute. find it, they might end up hori suppose the minute. find it, they might end up hori suppose the point:e. find it, they might end up hori suppose the point is that >> i suppose the point is that they get moved on and if they're unable to pay the fine, a later date will at least they've been uprooted. >> possibly. well, and it gets them system , doesn't it?

them in the system, doesn't it? yeah. it's getting you involved because we have noticed. >> we not our high streets. >> have we not our high streets. i mean, brighton has always been a a, you know, a little bit of a, you know, a hub definitely. but you know there are like quite a lot of paddington station every night like kind of camping gear emerges onto the, you know, not a bloke in a bedroll, but, but like a three man tent such as you might leave at glastonbury festival if you couldn't be bothered to collapse it. these sort of things are making a difference sort of things are making a diferah,e sort of things are making a diferah, i know you're a >> yeah, i know you're making a really argument that the really good argument that the problem solving. i think problem needs solving. i think i'm this necessarily i'm saying is this necessarily if to people if you're going to arrest people for smelling, everyone on the central times is going central line at times is going to nick. to end up in the nick. >> that would be good. to end up in the nick. >> i'dat would be good. to end up in the nick. >> i'd likeyuld be good. to end up in the nick. >> i'd like oni be good. to end up in the nick. >> i'd like on the good. to end up in the nick. >> i'd like on the spoti. to end up in the nick. >> i'd like on the spot fines for too much strong aftershave on tube. on the tube. >> on the tube. » m on the tube. >> be my next move. >> that would be my next move. >> that would be my next move. >> sorry. >> sorry. >> about the metro, steve? >> what about the metro, steve? what got? what do they got? >> have gone with. >> they have gone with. i'm a bit out order. yeah. this bit out of order. yeah. this clumsy husband blows £1,000 battling himself an battling against himself in an auction. tories. mean, auction. the tories. i mean, that embarrassing , his wife that is embarrassing, his wife

debbie tells the story she watched shock while his, watched in shock while his, slightly younger than her husband like an husband was sat there like an absolute fool. bidding against himself starts at £650, and he walks his way up in 50 quid's, all the way up to a thousand. the audience were finding it hilarious worth hilarious. probably not worth that money. reason that much money. the reason i start have a lot of sympathy start to have a lot of sympathy for it, debbie is a for him is it, says debbie is a podcaster edinburgh. you podcaster from edinburgh. you poor oh, everything does poor man. oh, everything he does is to be turned into an is going to be turned into an episode. yes, he's done other things where apparently things before. where apparently he's, car he he's, crashed their car and he melted their fridge. these are the kind of things that could have been ignored. but you've married a podcaster . married a podcaster. >> poor man. it does sound like it was a stunt and possibly for they may be a they may be like a pincer movement. >> podcast couple, >> this podcast couple, i suspect you know that she is actually groomed him to become the hapless buffoon. >> voice . exactly a few >> my voice. exactly a few charity auctions. it's not plausible that the auctioneer was not aware that the fellow you know, you don't take a second bid for somebody. >> there is a mechanism to prevent that. unless was prevent that. unless he was wearing hats and

wearing literally two hats and tommy . tommy. >> yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah. >> from one corner of the room to the other . anyway, all in to the other. anyway, all in a good cause. finally, the daily star press . have they a boffin? >> fridges are snitches. no, but they haven't got a boffin. but i bet were some boffins that bet there were some boffins that went they're talking went into this. they're talking about got some about fridges that have got some kind camera equipment that kind of camera equipment that spies this spies on you, i mean, is this for shared for people in shared accommodation , i guess i don't accommodation, i guess i don't know who stole the milk. let's look the footage. probably look at the footage. probably lewis. chauffeur. lewis. lewis chauffeur. >> trying to lose >> oh, just trying to lose weight, i it would weight, maybe. i mean, it would be be able to be quite useful to be able to say. did you. oh really? oh. say. oh, did you. oh really? oh. so i wonder who did have it then. and then , yeah. be able to then. and then, yeah. be able to run the footage. i would quite enjoy that. >> yeah, but you never win a marital row with facts and evidence. the worst. the last thing you could do is google for the right answer, that's the right answer, because that's going bite you. going to come back and bite you. >> it not be? it might >> but would it not be? it might be you might need be you might not need necessarily full blown camera. necessarily a full blown camera. maybe a tiny maybe you just need a tiny cardboard a police cardboard cut—out of a police officer on top officer standing on the top shelf have in petrol shelf like they have in petrol stations. this. you feel stations. just this. you feel you're could do. this is the

>> you could do. this is the more technological more technical technological version of sticking kate moss on the fridge, isn't it? yeah. someone's watching you. we all do right? young and, do that, right? i was young and, i had a friend. >> i remember his name, christopher something. anyway, his parents, they were quite sort of. they sort of sort of. they were sort of slightly cool, you know, slightly hippie cool, you know, modern parents. they had a picture, postcard picture, a postcard of an extraordinarily, like, grotesquely overweight woman naked on the front of the fridge. and that, it turned out, was to try and, incentivise. well, they're doing it . well, they're doing it. >> there's. >> there's. >> i misunderstood it completely. i thought it was like a. >> come on, that is your friend thin or is he just into really large? >> seen him for a very long time, but it'd be interesting to follow him up. yeah. check out his date. they were acetic. yeah it's now. it's a feeder now. >> any. >> any. >> i wonder he's sitting at >> i wonder if he's sitting at home watching, going. i knew that out sooner that would come out sooner or later. well those were your front pages coming up in the second half. we goodness , second half. we have, goodness, i think we have, all the latest from j.k. rowling , rail. we have from j.k. rowling, rail. we have difficult conversations becoming

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bucha. welcome back to headliners with me, simon evans. i'm still with comedian stephen allen and cressida wetton. we're going have a look inside the going to have a look inside the papers now, and kick off papers now, and we kick off steve good, if steve with good, if unsurprising, the metro. unsurprising, news in the metro. free on, free speech staggers on, but polite , i fear, is dead, polite fiction, i fear, is dead, so jk rowling won't face police action. >> despite inviting arrest over scotland's new hate crime law. i don't know if it's even been mentioned on this show, but scotland has a new hate, law hate sort of triviality doesn't concern us. you know, fridges that record when you've eaten food, that's what we're about. so the fridge starts to use. >> sizeist. slurs. yeah >> sizeist. slurs. yeah >> in scotland round. so it says

scotland's hate . in the article, scotland's hate. in the article, scotland's hate. in the article, scotland's hate. in the article, scotland's hate crime and public order brackets scotland act 2021 update that year , it's just come update that year, it's just come into effect, isn't it? but you could get seven years if you. here's the quote. communicate material or behave in a manner that a reasonable person would consider to be threatening or abusive, especially if you include their protected characteristics. that back characteristics. that comes back later. some april later. so she posted some april fools jokes, which were actually they weren't jokes, was it? it was. it was making a point. and she won't face arrest for this. firstly, i would feel sorry for anyone sent around to arrest her. if you can't afford a lawyer er , yeah, you know what i lawyer er, yeah, you know what i mean. but then the police say they'll take no further action. ihopeifs they'll take no further action. i hope it's because of the ray of this . because a of light in this. because a reasonable might reasonable person test might be kicking you can rely kicking in if. if you can rely on the legal system to that on the legal system to run that test. so it's not just test. yeah. so it's not just you've said a word that people are offended by. it needs to be obvious you were trying obvious that you were trying to cause you were cause harassment and you were including some of these words.

>> think i think >> i think i think realistically, she's realistically, obviously, she's she's trying to use a high profile , provocation to, to test profile, provocation to, to test and destroy the law to prove that it can't be employed. >> yeah. and doing a very good job. >> and she's done a great job to bnng >> and she's done a great job to bring sort of ridicule down upon the whole thing. but it probably isn't actually test, is isn't actually a useful test, is it? think it's it? i don't think it's demonstrated that you can, for instance, simply assert that trans women are men and no, no further action will be taken because her doing it in such a high profile way. they were obviously trying to avoid some confrontation on that scale , and confrontation on that scale, and i suspect it will still sooner or later catch somebody right . or later catch somebody right. >> well, i would i would direct people to check out the hate monster from last night in edinburgh, my edinburgh, which is on my twitter on comedy unleashes twitter and on comedy unleashes twitter. the hate monster was there. and he'll or she. i'm not sure it a he or she? i sure what is it a he or she? i don't know they will give don't know that they will give you this, you a rundown about this, anyway, rishi says it's not going happen so that's going to happen here, so that's great, it? because he's in

great, isn't it? because he's in charge next minutes. charge for the next ten minutes. so, well, this is what? >> and we mentioned it as steve hinted last night and i'm sure have done on many occasions, but the reality is that the labour mps in the scottish parliament were as very as keen. were as very nearly as keen. they certainly voted for this legislation. there's legislation. so there's no reason that these reason to suppose that these tweaks won't be brought before the parliament. >> you know, i think the best way to test the system to the point of failure is not high profile people saying things. it's more about if you know, if there complaint. they've there is a complaint. they've promised investigate all promised to investigate all complaints. now, if you've complaints. yeah. now, if you've got fair got infinite police, fair enough. they don't. so if enough. but they don't. so if people were making people were just making complaints about things that weren't in any way likely to be caught act, they keep caught by this act, they keep the so busy that the police so busy that eventually you eventually realise you can't have effect . have this system in effect. >> i think they've got something like 20,000 complaints being made first hours, but made in the first 24 hours, but they probably like they will probably just like sweep say, sweep those away and just say, well, yeah, reasonable. well, yeah, you're reasonable. staying with the hate crimes in the telegraph. cressida, this is a between burglary a discrepancy between burglary clear up rates and the online

squabble i think squabble investigations i think has been identified. >> that's right, police recording petty rails as hate crimes despite pleas from ministers. so, we know that last year they were the home office said, look, stop it. we're not having any more of this nonsense. non—crime hate incidences are, they don't meet the criminal threshold, but sometimes they're being recorded anyway, and then they can. they're recorded against somebody. so we were talking the other day. you were saying it might be the case that if you're volunteering a school or something that, are something like that, those are the of. yeah, your the sorts of. yeah, yeah, your cbd check. >> right. >> right. >> because think, >> because you might think, well, really well, what does it really matter? but it does matter because it against your because it goes against your name on. so the police name and so on. so the police are doing they've are still doing this. they've been to. and of course, been told not to. and of course, this is well tried crime is not being investigated, there's just these horrendous crime i like that. >> yeah, yeah, a bit like tradwives i think so, yeah. >> yeah. it's a good old fashioned crime, you know, the real ones. burglaries. yeah. exactly. exactly and it's not,

you know, that stuff's not. but there is none of this. >> i mean, somebody was sharing on twitter earlier there a little film of somebody using them. maybe shouldn't even them. maybe i shouldn't even mention is mention that this is a possibility now, a battery possibility now, but a battery powered grinder, think powered axe or grinder, i think they're go they're called to basically go through in about 30s through a bike lock in about 30s and make off with the bike, and this terrible thing this would be a terrible thing if becomes a widespread if this becomes a widespread phenomenon in london, because you police will you just know the police will have interest at all in have no interest at all in trying to track down that kind of apart from anything of thing. apart from anything else axle grinder could be else that axle grinder could be turned on human face. the turned on on a human face. the people might people who use it might easily be knife, whereas be carrying a knife, whereas somebody mean tweet somebody who sent a mean tweet is easy sort form to is a fairly easy sort of form to be filled isn't it? well, be filled in, isn't it? well, you that until they tweet you say that until they tweet a nasty thing you. nasty thing about you. >> yeah. all the arresting nasty thing about you. >> yyou've all the arresting nasty thing about you. >> yyou've done, he arresting nasty thing about you. >> yyou've done, ie arresting nasty thing about you. >> yyou've done, i thinksting that you've done, i think the police should following police should be following the instruction home instruction of the home secretary, because like secretary, because it's not like i've loved recent home i've loved all the recent home secretaries, but at least know i've loved all the recent home secretories, but at least know i've loved all the recent home secr

talk about so often, the unintended consequences of a badly phrased law. yes. and this is something is what you've got, something that meant to provide a that was meant to provide a purpose. now people just purpose. but now people are just adding record of this adding to a record of this person be a racist in person might be a bit racist in the or might be transphobic. >> well, do you think the purpose connection with purpose was in connection with stephen before it stephen lawrence that before it even the point they even got to the point where they attacked they attacked and murdered him, they would they would have been arrested there would arrested for or there would have been intervention the been an intervention from the police because they'd. >> probably arrested >> yeah, probably not arrested because what we're talking about is a non crime. is something that's a non crime. yeah. crime , and the yeah. yeah. non crime, and the other thing going to say other thing i was going to say is a cbd test, whether is isn't a cbd test, whether you're that or not. you're high on that oil or not. >> it might be. i might >> yes it might be. yes i might have cbt but that's whether have my cbt but that's whether you a isn't it . you can ride a moped isn't it. yes. there's too many tests and passed it. staying with the telegraph, today's telegraph, steve. today's april showers. this showers. no excuse for this showers. no excuse for this shower . according to lord shower. according to lord cruddas, grassroots group cruddas, tory grassroots group launches campaign to oust wet mps , they've launched this mps, they've launched this campaign to move the party to the right conservative post, which is a website linked to lord cruddas, a tony, a tory

donor who's given £3 million, which is £2 million less than the threshold to get away with being racist, which is good to know that, isn't it? and there's a system where tory party members could up working on members could end up working on deselecting people they consider too much of a centrist . that's too much of a centrist. that's up to you. if the system's in place, knock yourself out, fill your boots. it will turn the party into the thing you party more into the thing you like. be likely to like. you will be less likely to win when you've got a system first past the that then first past the post that then settles two party settles down to a two party system, got to convince settles down to a two party systcentre got to convince settles down to a two party systcentre ground. to convince settles down to a two party systcentre ground. if) convince settles down to a two party systcentre ground. if you1vince settles down to a two party systcentre ground. if you have�* the centre ground. if you have an offering that the centre ground can't stomach, the other team will get it. >> but there's some truth to that. but chris, we have noticed, of course, reform in our double digits. our polling in double digits. well, i thought that's well, yeah, i thought that's exactly why, right. because people that they can people don't feel that they can trust conservatives with trust the conservatives with an actual vote. exactly actual right wing vote. exactly >> yeah. lord, chris, we've already got system. it's already got a system. it's called reform, that's already got a system. it's called what reform, that's already got a system. it's called what the rm, that's already got a system. it's called what the improvement of already got a system. it's callreform at the improvement of already got a system. it's callreform pollingnprovement of already got a system. it's callreform polling numbers nt of already got a system. it's callreform polling numbers is of the reform polling numbers is from tory people who would have voted tory, who did in 2019. >> yeah. this idea of the silent

majority that's hiding there should have been there in 2019. if you add together the brexit party and tory votes, they were 47% of people who voted. and all you're taking from the you're doing is taking from the pile, losing some of that centre ground that will to ground that will go off to labour and converting some of ground that will go off to lab> and what trying is >> and what i'm trying to say is even those even if you win all of those back, numbers still wouldn't back, the numbers still wouldn't work you because you've work out for you because you've lost too much of the disputed ones in the middle. >> yeah, well, it's not going to work around anyway, work this time around anyway, isn't very isn't it? it all seems very hypothetical. now, hypothetical. the times now, cressida and difficult conversations becoming impossible, says this woman. yeah proof box.

yeah exactly. proof box. >> right? you're right. difficult conversations becoming impossible in the uk, says ofsted chief, so yeah. amanda spielman insists that the watchdog must be able to give tough messages to schools because she's making the case that, know, of, of ofsted is that, you know, of, of ofsted is there for the kids, not for the teachers. but there's this culture of sort of wanting to be nice. and obviously we had , the nice. and obviously we had, the lady herself after lady who killed herself after a damning report, which is damning ofsted report, which is sort of had a lot of press attention at the time. and this woman was sort of saying, look, that's just not what it's for. and she talks about the people who for ofsted, typically who work for ofsted, typically a sort of modest, conscientious who work for ofsted, typically a sort of |they're conscientious who work for ofsted, typically a sort of |they're not,cientious who work for ofsted, typically a sort of |they're not,cient want people. they're not, they want duncan bannatyne there, you duncan bannatyne in there, you know, to deliver tough know, to go and to deliver tough messages . so, yeah, lack messages. so, yeah, lack of discipline. sort of discipline. it's a very sort of feminisation of society sort of story, it? you makes story, isn't it? you makes me think katharine birbalsingh, story, isn't it? you makes me thin know, atharine birbalsingh, story, isn't it? you makes me thin know, the rine birbalsingh, story, isn't it? you makes me thin know, the woman)alsingh, story, isn't it? you makes me thin know, the woman who'sih, story, isn't it? you makes me thin know, the woman who's the you know, the woman who's the strict. interesting. strict. it's interesting. >> woman. mean, i you >> it's the woman. i mean, i you know, sympathetic to that know, i'm sympathetic to that feminisation therapeutic feminisation or the therapeutic culture certainly of like, making feelings. making everyone's feelings. a high priority. but also it's

coming from a woman. so i suppose there's a limit to what you can say is like the feminisation. well, you have to say on average. >> yes. she's not there. >> yes. she's not there. >> is. well, i mean, but that's >> yes. she's not there. >> thing,.l, i mean, but that's >> yes. she's not there. >> thing, isn'tnean, but that's >> yes. she's not there. >> thing, isn't it? n, but that's >> yes. she's not there. >> thing, isn't it? women1at's >> yes. she's not there. >> thing, isn't it? women have the thing, isn't it? women have often first, you know, often been the first, you know, i thatcher was, was i mean, thatcher was, was probably know, the probably the, you know, the most stern of kind of stern critic of that kind of approach. there are some there are messages that are are some messages that are unpopular that are that are going to they're going to hurt. unpopular that are that are goinifto they're going to hurt. unpopular that are that are goinifto tinotre going to hurt. unpopular that are that are goinifto tinot hurting, to hurt. and if it's not hurting, it's not ofsted know not working. ofsted i don't know enough absolutely enough about it to be absolutely clear, seem to have clear, but they do seem to have developed reputation being developed a reputation for being extraordinary undiplomatic in certain circumstances. but i think be horribly think it would be horribly cruel, actually. perhaps this is ironic observation, but i think it'd be horribly cruel to blame the ofsted inspectors for this poor woman suicide . nobody poor woman suicide. nobody commits suicide just because they've had a bad, you know. well, i agree it amounts to a bad assessment at work, right? >> yes. but the way they phrase it is that i don't know how they phrase it. it's something like they believe it played a factor. yeah. >> because the school went from outstanding to inadequate or

something, didn't it, in a single swoop, which, you know, i mean would be a terrible blow. >> but then you don't blame the inspectors. think you're right inspectors. i think you're right not the inspectors, the not to blame the inspectors, the system. when system. and at the time when that story was, was fresh, that news story was, was fresh, we we debated loads. we remember we debated it loads. and how the system and it is about how the system doesn't you have take doesn't work. you have to take all nuance of all of the all of the nuance of all of the world education and it world of education and boil it down outcomes, world of education and boil it down means outcomes, world of education and boil it down means as outcomes, world of education and boil it down means as inaccurates, which means it's as inaccurate as food hygiene rating as the food hygiene rating and kebab shops, so having kebab shops, whereas so having a reason it and have a reason to reform it and have a little ability to say little bit of ability to say where need improvement. but where you need improvement. but you do need to be able to fail someone without the risk of them killing themselves, which then means bottom means you can't use the bottom two of the five. so then two of the of the five. so then you've boiled you you've boiled it down. you probably say perhaps, i probably need to say perhaps, i think five. think five five. >> it's arbitrary, but >> god knows it's arbitrary, but maybe is fine. perhaps maybe five is fine. but perhaps i absolutely spitballing . but i am absolutely spitballing. but perhaps it be helpful to perhaps it would be helpful to say can't slide people more say you can't slide people more than grades in a single than two grades in a single report, and say like, okay, this is this is a significant downturn . and so we're going to downturn. and so we're going to come back in shortly. i think you need i understand what you're saying about nuance, but

i think you do need to be able to give a clear guide to parents as to whether or not their local school is in significant trouble. >> well, and people anyway, >> well, and people talk anyway, don't people i'm don't they? i think people i'm always surprised that we always sort of surprised that we even because don't even need this because don't parents together parents just get together on mumsnet knows mumsnet and everybody knows which is the good school, everybody knows where they want to in. to get their kids in. >> yeah, i expect you're right. international now steve, international news now steve, the i news is warning of what i fear is not a new single person shooter game. >> yes, the world must prepare for isis 2.0. this is according to iraq. former minister, who was foreign minister when isis seized parts of iraq in 2014, says that there's a viable environment for the terror group to return. yeah, it's an interesting article, but if you read through it, you could say yes, they could. it's effectively saying they could come because they, existed come back because they, existed in yeah the in the first place. yeah the same things are there. but then it also says that time it also says that this time their goal wouldn't be to establish state. establish an islamic state. so rebrand at the very least, if you will, their goal be this time just to cause a bit of

mayhem. control some areas. okay, is what says. but okay, is what it says. but i did think that if call the think that if you call the islamic state, not trying islamic state, you're not trying to islamic state, caliphate. >> yeah. caliphate or bust. yeah. >> do you remember the time when we went through them is we went through calling them is isis? because isis? and then daesh because they that'll they didn't like it? oh, that'll show them. >> isil as well, it? >> or isil as well, wasn't it? i can't remember isil. they were at one point. yeah. isis was the islamic syria , wasn't islamic state in syria, wasn't it? is that right? i think that was i can't remember the i love the that we politically the idea that we politically went let's call went through this, let's call them because think went through this, let's call theia because think went through this, let's call theia pejorative.ause think went through this, let's call the well,orative. ause think went through this, let's call the well, that'll ause think went through this, let's call the well, that'll show think went through this, let's call the well, that'll show 1but< >> well, that'll show him, but he we to be ready for he said, we need to be ready for isis 2.0 or isis be. i've come up other subtitles for it. up with other subtitles for it. isis two islamic boogaloo and isis two islamic boogaloo and isis two islamic boogaloo and isis two furious two fast. nice. dufing isis two furious two fast. nice. during ramadan. >> yeah. brilliant. oh. too fast. very cool i like that. well that's it for part two folks. coming up we have murray black at the fringe. slavery souvenirs put beyond value. and it turns out making fentanyl legal makes it more popular. we will be exploring all those topics couple minutes

and welcome back to headliners. so good news on the edinburgh fringe from the times. cressida. one last show for stand up comedians to compete with. >> well, i think i'm not sure, actually, mary black promises brutally honest edinburgh fringe show. so this is the snp deputy westminster leader who's on her way out . she said last year way out. she said last year she's had enough. it's too toxic. she can't work in westminster . she's toxic. she can't work in westminster. she's going to go and work with nice civilised stand up comics. what yeah, so she's. no, but she, she is. i think this is going to be a comedy show because i first thought going to be like thought i was going to be like an with, you know, just an evening with, you know, just stories ha, talking stories and ha ha ha, talking about notes. yeah, exactly. all the drunken debauchery the terrible drunken debauchery of actually the terrible drunken debauchery of refer actually the terrible drunken debauchery of refer to actually the terrible drunken debauchery of refer to her actually the terrible drunken debauchery of refer to her sensejally does refer to her own sense of humour this. it sort of humour in this. so it sort of sounds like think she's sounds like she's i think she's doing sort of humour. >> i remember the house >> i remember once in the house of she, she was regarded of commons she, she was regarded bofis of commons she, she was regarded boris johnson's government as

fascist said, going to fascist. she said, i'm going to use word, fascism . it's use the f word, fascism. it's there and we're too afraid to say it. i thought that was a great routine. the idea that bofis great routine. the idea that boris johnson could approach the organisational capabilities necessary to just look at the trace. >> yeah. there you go . levels of >> yeah. there you go. levels of irony. maybe it'll be brilliant, i don't know, but yeah, this is coming to edinburgh this year. >> eager to see whether she >> i'm, eager to see whether she gets reported for hate speech on a regular basis. >> she does describe her own sense of humour as fairly dark. yeah. so pretty much. yeah. get the in already . she the complaints in already. she also said that after a third of also said that after a third of a life, she was an mp. she's going to do if you're a third of your life, you've been an mp. you are establishment. you are the establishment. you're against. you're railing against. >> on the other it's >> well, on the other hand, it's a of ridiculously a function of her ridiculously young house young age. he entered the house at 12 something, at the age of 12 or something, didn't and still she didn't she? and she still she was undergraduate. she was still an undergraduate. she spent third of her life an was still an undergraduate. she spe and third of her life an was still an undergraduate. she spe and aiird of her life an was still an undergraduate. she spe and a third her life an was still an undergraduate. she spe and a third ofzr life an was still an undergraduate. she spe and a third of herfe an was still an undergraduate. she spe and a third of her life an mp and a third of her life asleep. all do. asleep. as we all do. >> so . >> so. >> so. >> the rest of it must be mainly scrolling. speaking of work, shy

twentysomething steve telegraph have evidence of a trend. >> yeah, hiring gen z. i refuse to say z is a nightmare. they don't turn up for their first day at work. >> so does this say gen christ as well instead of gen x? but that's more controversial or like king's cross. >> yeah, so nightmare is how >> yeah, so a nightmare is how this james mcneil has described his experience of working with generation quick little generation z's quick little context. this this grouping of generations is fairly borderline horoscopes. so i'm born in 1977. this what bothers me about it. born in 1977, i'm gen christ. okay. which are you telling me? i've got more in common with someone born in 1965 than i have someone born in 1965 than i have someone three years younger than me ? me? >> i'm 1965. me? >> i'm1965. i'm. i'm the first year of the gen x. >> yeah, we've got nothing in common. we got you and i. >> we see face to face. we see to eye eye on most matters. >> don't. don't disprove me. this early in the shared usage i know, i know what you mean. >> think there are useful. >> i think there are useful. i don't think the thing about

generations is necessarily. you can come in 25 year can say they come in 25 year blocks. i think certain things happen certain crucial happen at certain crucial stages. you know, there's this book, fourth turning and book, the fourth turning and they've revived it again recently. you know, about this. this like the generations, recently. you know, about this. thisgreatestke the generations, recently. you know, about this. thisgreatest generationerations, recently. you know, about this. thisgreatest generation are ons, recently. you know, about this. thisgreatest generation are the the greatest generation are the ones who fought in the war, then the boomers. and i think the boomers is a thing because they actually they were actually did they they were a cohort experienced, you cohort who experienced, you know, upsurge in know, a massive upsurge in economic confidence. but it's an american phenomenon, right? to use baby boomers in, in the uk, anyone the first ten anyone born in the first ten years after the war in this country, their parents were living rationing and living through rationing and were, know, coming to terms living through rationing and were the know, coming to terms living through rationing and were the fact )w, coming to terms living through rationing and were the fact thatoming to terms living through rationing and were the fact that britain:o terms living through rationing and were the fact that britain hadrms with the fact that britain had lost pretty much everything that the previous hundred years had taken two very taken for granted two very different cohorts in that respect, because you're respect, just because you're born at a certain time doesn't mean that you're born into a certain set of conditions. >> yeah, it just means that you live through certain things, but just the actual says that just the actual story says that they two of them. they employed two of them. they didn't on their didn't even turn up on their first day. mean, first day. i mean, the generation does we generation z thing does mean we

get insult people. get to insult young people. so sleeves up. forget that i complained, we've been told to get a life balance, and get a work life balance, and they've of it far they've kind of taken it so far because they've devalued what work life. and maybe work is in their life. and maybe it's don't it's because they don't particularly think it's going to pay particularly think it's going to pay off for maybe they've, pay off for them. maybe they've, you if you spend your you know, if you spend your entire paying entire childhood paying attention emotional attention to your emotional health, less. health, maybe you work less. here's , though. while here's the kicker, though. while unemployment, where it is and when everyone else retires, they will end up with the jobs. working from home. whether you like it or not, you need to fill a role. you're going to to make. >> not if they don't turn up at all. i that's to be all. i think that's got to be you've occasionally to work. >> you do turn up. they have a mental health day because they couldn't. >> i think they say they don't turn interviews. this is turn up for interviews. this is what complaints are. what the complaints are. >> there's somebody that >> i think there's somebody that got a job. it wasn't a high end role, but it paid £35,000 a yeah role, but it paid £35,000 a year. company car, laptop, phone, decent position on both occasions. on the first day they just up. mean, the just didn't show up. i mean, the confidence or the lack of confidence of it or the lack of isuppose confidence of it or the lack of i suppose it's the low testosterone, stuff. testosterone, all that stuff. we're hearing, you know, we're always hearing, you know, that, there'll that, but ultimately there'll be no fill jobs. no one else to fill those jobs. >> so you're right. you >> so you're right. i mean, you need turn up, but

need people to turn up, but there embodied and there might be embodied ai and robots, actually. yeah. how lovely . >> how lovely. >> how lovely. >> solved it. there we go. fingers crossed. now, crested are on to one of the hardest things to value this evening. but value it. must a story in but value it. we must a story in the times about a segment in antiques show. the times about a segment in ant yes,; show. the times about a segment in ant yes, antiques ow. the times about a segment in ant yes, antiques road the times about a segment in antyes, antiques road show >> yes, antiques road show expert refuses to value slavery. disc. so this lady has brought in an old. it's a disc that's got an inscription on it. it turns out this was owned by a nigerian slave trader. and this guy, ronnie archer morgan, who's the presenter? the antiques expert. he said he's just not prepared to put a price on this because it's disgusting and he doesn't want to. he doesn't want to value it. >> very upset. so what's the clip? yeah, watch it on the newspaper's website. whatever he's explaining that his own i think his great aunt or something had been a returned slave from canada sierra slave from canada to sierra leone . i couldn't quite leone. i couldn't quite understand the. he had understand what the. but he had some connection with some family connection with slavery anyway, a negative slavery anyway, of a negative kind, was all quite kind, and it was all quite emotional. but, i can't help

thinking it. they must encounter quite a few objects over the course of the last 30 years or so of antiques roadshow, which have some kind of connection with dark practices of one kind or another, highly likely, you know, murder weapons. very probably. or, i don't know , probably. or, i don't know, classic novels belonging to people who had made their money in that field. anyway, it's not as if even like your wedgwood , as if even like your wedgwood, your josiah wedgwood potter is probably working. conditions would not significantly different from that of slavery for a lot of the poorest there, i don't know. what do you think? it does feel a little bit precious. >> well, it's provoked a conversation, isn't it? which is i'm always saying, you know, put a it, talk about what i'm always saying, you know, put a is it, talk about what i'm always saying, you know, put a is than:alk about what i'm always saying, you know, put a is than hide bout what i'm always saying, you know, put a is than hide ityut what i'm always saying, you know, put a is than hide it away. at it is rather than hide it away. good did it more good that they did it more interesting. good that they did it more interestiwhat didn't seem able >> and what he didn't seem able to do was to identify exactly what was connected what it was. it was connected with slavery, and it was engraved ivory. and he engraved on ivory. and he and he sort that that, sort of emphasised that that, you roadshow you know, antiques roadshow find that well. well, that abhorrent as well. well, of course, by antiques course, you know, by antiques roadshow , but there's something

roadshow, but there's something to find abhorrent in virtually everything handle , isn't everything you handle, isn't there, you know, be there, you know, whether it be teak a, from a, you know, teak from a, from a, you know, i'm making a long of which i'm making a long list of which tv like slavery. tv shows don't like slavery. >> and it's because, you know, antiques roadshow still waiting to about songs of to find out about songs of praise. i'm hoping. fingers crossed. >> no, peter, seem to remember >> no, peter, i seem to remember was a bit like 50 over was always a bit like 50 over 50. he's worth remembering. >> but he's worth remembering. it's tv show. as if it's a tv show. it's not as if you actually took it to be valued they refused. you valued and they refused. you took tv and they took it on a tv show and they made a deal out of it. >> woman paid £3 for it at >> the woman paid £3 for it at some of market stall or some kind of market stall or something. it's not as if it had been down her through been passed down to her through her ancestors, no, they made her ancestors, who no, they made that from from his that very clear from from his cold, dead hands. anyway, over to libs to everyone's favourite mad libs in portland, oregon. but according to the mail, they are going into reverse . going into reverse. >> yep, oregon democrat governor signs possession signs law making drug possession crime again after liberal laws fled to led to the floods of street use. so this is because previously they decided to decriminalise some drugs. you think? okay, let's find out

which drugs. that's very key here, isn't it? we're just talking about some of them. you know, there's shaggy from scooby duis. some a ganja duis. yeah, some sort of a ganja isn't shaggy ? this isn't grass shaggy? no, this is. so, look, the of so, look, where's the list of ones it's fentanyl is ones that it's fentanyl is definitely in there. heroin and methamphetamine. amphetamine it turns out they've put them on the same par as having a parking ticket. and i'll tell you ticket. yes, and i'll tell you what else is, on the par of having a parking ticket. bad parking and that's not stopped, has it? people park badly everywhere. so clearly a parking ticket wasn't going to stop you doing these incredibly addictive drugs . so news for the drugs. so it's bad news for the libertarian they've had libertarian types. they've had to no, you do need to say. actually no, you do need to say. actually no, you do need to drugs. otherwise to ban some drugs. otherwise people off their face on people are off their face on them. the change into them. the change comes into effect september 1st. you effect on september the 1st. you can months in jail. what effect on september the 1st. you clove months in jail. what effect on september the 1st. you clove aboutnonths in jail. what effect on september the 1st. you clove about this hs in jail. what effect on september the 1st. you clove about this is in jail. what effect on september the 1st. you clove about this is it's ail. what effect on september the 1st. you clove about this is it's really1at i love about this is it's really interesting to use america as a little petri dish experiment for our drug laws. yeah, let's just hold off for a while and see what happens. >> happens. >> see what happens. although we covered it last night, germany has decreed analysed has basically, decreed analysed cannabis, cannabis , you cannabis, but cannabis, you would say, is a lot milder and

will probably lead to less people, you know, just literally their lives falling apart, but i don't know, it's , it's don't know, it's, it's interesting that these things are sort of swimming in the opposite direction . portland, opposite direction. portland, oregon been, as you say, oregon has been, as you say, for a couple of decades now, regarded as the as sort of ground zero for the most of the lunatic woke, left kind of project. >> so i think that's how they phrase it . phrase it. >> well, they made their own sketch show about it. they called porches or something or, you put their . yeah, there you know, put their. yeah, there was, there was a whole there was a tv show made in america about how just how i guess you might put it more kindly, say brian johnson. you know, they just is. i think that's the right turn. they think the best of everyone. you know, they assume that everyone is well intentioned. and stop castigating and if you just stop castigating and certain and stigmatising certain behaviours, will and stigmatising certain behufindirs, will and stigmatising certain behufind its will and stigmatising certain behufind its own will and stigmatising certain behufind its own right will just find its own way. right >> well, yes. as steve said, it's interesting, isn't it? watch over there. and then watch them over there. and then have about we're have a think about what we're going here. on my to read going to do here. on my to read list, read peter list, i'd like to read peter hitchens book about, i think

it's war we never it's called the war we never fought. because don't know fought. and because i don't know what is , but i'm sure what the answer is, but i'm sure he's got some strong opinions. and this is this showing us and this is this is showing us what isn't it? it's what happens, isn't it? it's some a pretty good study. some it's a pretty good study. >> right. this the >> you're right. this is the argument with argument hitchens had with russell brand a regular basis russell brand on a regular basis about the that simply about about the idea that simply as, you know, as the people who are pro it say, if you decree , are pro it say, if you decree, analyse it, legalise it, then it makes it much easier deal makes it much easier to deal with as appropriate way, like with as an appropriate way, like with as an appropriate way, like with yeah, with clinical, yeah, interventions. and actually, no, it doesn't it, it just means that everyone just like lets themselves go. >> he can be a whiff of both though, can't he? i think if you are chemically addicted to something that is a health problem, you will need some health help. yeah, thing health help. yeah, but the thing you're to is incredibly you're addicted to is incredibly addictive. couldn't get it addictive. you couldn't get it in place. in the first place. >> to decriminalise to >> better to decriminalise to criminalise that. firstly anyway, chris and criminalise that. firstly any going chris and criminalise that. firstly any going to chris and criminalise that. firstly any going to give chris and criminalise that. firstly any going to give you chris and criminalise that. firstly any going to give you my'is and criminalise that. firstly any going to give you my full1d i'm going to give you my full beam us through this one. >> nice uk government launches review glare review into headlight glare after drivers complaints. so apparently is a massive apparently this is a massive problem. people getting more problem. people are getting more upset being dazzled by

upset about being dazzled by headlights, it says here, the fact that. so the government, they're looking into taking some action, the fact that the government has listened to drivers concerns and heeded our calls to examine the complex issue of headlight glare. is it complex? i mean, apparently they're just using leds now, so headlights are a bit too bright. >> i haven't noticed, obviously. oh i can't believe you got the story and you're not on side. story and you're not on my side. >> is middle aged men >> this is middle aged men complaining about things to do with yes, are with driving. yes, they are a lot brighter. maybe i'm older and my eyes good as lot brighter. maybe i'm older and iusedres good as lot brighter. maybe i'm older and iused to good as lot brighter. maybe i'm older and iused to but good as lot brighter. maybe i'm older and iused to but no, )od as lot brighter. maybe i'm older and iused to but no, i'm as they used to be, but no, i'm sure this. i think it's and sure it's this. i think it's and they mentioned it in here, but it's to do with the height it's more to do with the height of suvs just of the vehicles. so suvs just mean lights coming mean that the lights coming towards drive car towards you. i drive a car that's low to ground. that's very low to the ground. yes, it makes it sound sportier than really than a toyota aygo really is, but means getting but it just means you're getting the right in the the full glare right in the eyes. that's a massive problem. >> can you not adjust the prism of windscreen ? of your windscreen? >> go off and change >> yes. i'll go off and change his refractive but then his refractive index, but then i'll getting blue in i'll just be getting blue in there red in at the there and the red shoe in at the top. problem. top. that's the problem. >> interesting. i'll

top. that's the problem. >> driving interesting. i'll top. that's the problem. >> driving home|teresting. i'll top. that's the problem. >> driving home inresting. i'll top. that's the problem. >> driving home in whatg. i'll top. that's the problem. >> driving home in whatg. think be driving home in what i think is foul weather. in about is fairly foul weather. in about half hour. i pay close half an hour. i will pay close attention to that. that will liven things at the end of liven things up at the end of part three we have just one more part three we have just one more part to go. disappointing scones, and scones, screaming babies, and a woman herself, possibly woman marrying herself, possibly to avoid

and welcome back to headliners. so, the independent. steve, a row at the national trust over wokester scones or possibly woke scones . scoi'ies. >> scones. >> yeah, that's the thing. so, the national trust defends scone recipe after secretly making it vegan. and you say they are a very contentious food scone. scone jam. first, cream first. the number of wars that have been fought over this actually more than religion, but some visitors complained that these new ones, they're like dry biscuits now that they're vegan . biscuits now that they're vegan. >> that's a new controversy entirely. yeah, but it.

>> yeah. do you put vat on it? if it tastes like a dry biscuit, but i, i suppose if they hadn't been impacted in terms of their texture, you couldn't really complain. no one should have a moral argument. like, i will only eat this if i know account's tweets have been fiddled with, but it has been fiddled with, but if it has been impacted, fair enough. but impacted, then fair enough. but wait minute. charity says wait a minute. the charity says they've making without they've been making them without butter plot twist. butter for years. plot twist. >> they've their their >> and also they've their their their recipes are freely available so you can inspect them, which presumably somebody has done. >> could you just say a bit? you can tell you who that someone is. 64 year old maude said that i stand the taste of the i can't stand the taste of the new ones. you're older. maude. maybe it's your taste buds come in saying well, serve in saying well, and they serve them cream. them with cream. >> so they're not really trying to be vegan, are they? this is just of cream. >> they serve them with cow cream . cream. >> vegan the original. well it's so says here it says so it says here it says margarine. well that's a good quote. it says that butter quote. but it says that butter and are readily available. quote. but it says that butter and this are readily available. quote. but it says that butter and this just; readily available. quote. but it says that butter and this just the|dily available. quote. but it says that butter and this just the|dily a�*thingle. isn't this just the wider thing of everyone's getting a bit

annoyed nhs, nhs, annoyed that the nhs, the nhs, the trust is getting wokester? >> well, that's the perception the national trust has done some annoying woke things. but this i don't think being vegan scones is necessarily a facet of that controversy, but i do think their cafeterias are ridiculously expensive and their food is not that great. and actually, i used to go to the national trust for quite a lot when i was a little bit when i was on tour and stuff, i'd quite often fill in, you know, a day with nothing to do, go and see a nice garden, enjoy them, even a wander around house. the wander around the house. the cafeterias pricey and they cafeterias are pricey and they have a captive audience, and i think they should deliver what they want. these people. >> how many years ago is this? because you might have accidentally because you might have acciden i ally because you might have accideni don't know. spit sculpt, i don't know. oh, spit it now . even it's not too it out now. even it's not too late. don't you think? >> just cost saving >> it's just cost? cost saving as well? mean, butter is as well? i mean, butter is expensive, isn't it? compared to whipped said, whipped up whatever you said, marjorie. >> it from new zealand. >> to get it from new zealand. now, of the because now, because of the because of liz or something. get liz truss or something. i get

confused daily mail now, cressida, here's a name i haven't heard in some time . the haven't heard in some time. the most controversial in the most controversial guru in the nursery, is back. nursery, gina ford, is back. >> could baby's sleep guru gina ford , whose controversial 90s ford, whose controversial 90s book urged parents to let newborns cry it out and made her a fortune, be making a comeback with millennials ? ulez yes, with millennials? ulez yes, apparently gen z, though they don't get a mention. they don't get a mention in generations. >> got to mention this we had boomers in their scones . yeah, boomers in their scones. yeah, and now we've got millennials in their screaming kids. >> i'm a millennial. i haven't got any kids. you both have . i'm got any kids. you both have. i'm probably not the right person to be. oh, it was hugely controversial . controversial. >> ours were born in 2004 and two thousand and seven, and gina ford was well, she sounds horrific. >> you're not allowed to look at your look. your baby in the eye after 10 pm. that's right. all about all you mustn't have it in in the you have to get the in the bed. you have to get the baby up by 7 am. it can't sleep in. there's all these rules. in. there's all these mad rules. it doesn't good. i do it doesn't sound good. i do believe attachment theory. believe in attachment theory. and like recipe

and this sounds like a recipe for of problems later on. for a lot of problems later on. >> attachment you can >> attachment theory, you can glue ceiling, rub it glue them to the ceiling, rub it on hair. on your hair. >> the theory. it's about >> it's the theory. it's about how people. three how people. there's three broadly how broadly three categories of how people to deal with people tend to deal with intimacy. okay. and there's a lot research that says it lot of research that says it starts in childhood. anyway, this sounds like it could cause a lot of people a lot of trouble, but some people apparently think it's brilliant. could it just be that some babies are trouble than babies are more trouble than others? babies are more trouble than oth i's? babies are more trouble than othi think right. i mean, >> i think you're right. i mean, my childbearing at my theory about childbearing at this everyone did use this point and everyone did use to exchange theories the to exchange theories all the time stop them time about how to stop them crying. and people's kids crying. and some people's kids obviously better than obviously were just better than others. and the other thing is, the is whatever the advice you give is whatever it be that you were it happened to be that you were doing at which the doing at the point at which the kid grew out it, you kid just grew out of it, you know, whatever it and that know, whatever it was. and that carried the case. carried on being the case. >> dad seat with >> my dad had a seat with a massive spring that they used to put yeah, yeah. put in the doorway. yeah, yeah. and apparently it used and just and apparently it used to fall asleep, a to make me fall asleep, get a big spring just to amuse you. >> so you don't really have anxious attachment, but you can only intimate relations in anxious attachment, but you can 0|doorframe. imate relations in a doorframe. >> on by. a doorframe. >> i'm)n by. a doorframe. >> i'm ready, darling. warm >> i'm ready, darling. warm >> staying with borderline

>> staying with the borderline nut jobs. cressida, the woman who married herself, defies the trolls. >> so, sir, i paid £3,000 to marry myself. vile trolls who say no one would love me. i'm wrong. yeah, i mean, the confidence of it. body positivity. what a surprise. influencer danny evans married herself in a lavish, lavish ceremony in a lab where she. well, nearly. she faced a mirror and vowed to give herself grace and vowed to give herself grace and value herself . i mean, it's and value herself. i mean, it's just. i hate this when self—love is really just about having long baths and eating chocolate. it's just i hate it. yeah, this is so sad. >> it's another facet i've used that word twice now in this section, but it's another aspect of the infertility cult, isn't it? that's overwhelming. yes. well, yeah, the world a little bit. you want to slip in your bit. do you want to slip in your last lulu? you've last story about lulu? you've got yeah. mirror lulu >> yeah. the mirror says lulu reveals one thing she refuses to do before 12 pm. and if you marry herself , she's not giving marry herself, she's not giving up hope until lunchtime . and if

up hope until lunchtime. and if you read the article, it's in paragraph five where they say, speak, speak. there you go. saved you reading all that rubbish. >> and she's saving her voice for concerts, basically. yeah. >> not surprising, is it? >> it's not surprising, is it? >> it's not surprising, is it? >> she's still she she shanked david so you know, she david bowie. so you know, she must be doing something right, we the end of the we have, come to the end of the show, folks. it's very nearly over take another show, folks. it's very nearly over look take another show, folks. it's very nearly over look at take another show, folks. it's very nearly over look at wednesday'sther show, folks. it's very nearly over look at wednesday's front quick look at wednesday's front pages. times outcry pages. we have the times outcry at aid workers deaths. the telegraph pm demands answers after israel airstrike kills britain's guardian. charities halt gaza aid after drone attack kills seven staff. the express three britons killed on gaza mercy mission. the inews uk demands answers after israeli strike kills seven aid workers. and finally, the daily star. fridges are snitches . those were fridges are snitches. those were your front pages and that's all we have time for. thank you to my guests. we're back tomorrow at 11 pm. somebody else is hosting some guests. it'll hosting some other guests. it'll all much the same format. all be much the same format. you've a wonderful you've been a wonderful audience. watching you've been a wonderful au5ence. watching you've been a wonderful au5 am? watching you've been a wonderful au5 a.m? stay watching you've been a wonderful au5 a.m? stay tuned watching at 5 am? stay tuned for breakfast. otherwise, good night. >> that warm feeling inside from

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