news. >> good evening. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom . your wenzler in the gb newsroom. your top story this hour. shadow foreign secretary david lammy says the government should suspend arms sales to israel. if it's clear the international law has been breached . it's after has been breached. it's after british aid workers john chapman, james henderson and james kirby were killed when their convoy was hit by an israeli airstrike while they were delivering vital food aid . were delivering vital food aid. they were part of a group of seven aid workers from the world central kitchen organisation. the founder, jose the charity's founder, jose andre, accused israeli andre, has accused israeli forces in gaza of targeting the workers. systematic early 17 members between the special speciality security people. >> we have three british individuals and three three international crew, plus one palestinian that they were targeted systematically car by car . car. >> in other news, a new poll

suggests labour could sweep to victory with more than 400 seats for the next election, leaving the tories with just 155. you govt is predicting a landslide for sir keir starmer with the conservatives projected to win even less seats than a previous poll conducted in january and another change of leader may be off the cards, with other mps including penny mordaunt , iain including penny mordaunt, iain duncan smith and jacob rees—mogg all trailing their labour challengers . and the reform uk challengers. and the reform uk party has removed two parliamentary candidates for making statements that they say fell beneath their standards . fell beneath their standards. jonathan kay and mick greeno will no longer contest seats after campaign group hope not hate. accused them of sharing racist views on social media. at least nine people have died with more than 900 injured after a major earthquake in taiwan . this major earthquake in taiwan. this was the moment it struck the east coast this morning. tremors were recorded as high as 7.7

magnitude during the morning rush hour. news anchors rocked by the earthquake during live broadcasts remained steady on air whilst the newsroom was shaking. rescue teams are now working into the night in search of survivors. more than 100 are thought to be trapped in tunnels under buildings or stuck under landslides . and for the latest landslides. and for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. com slash alerts. now it's time for headliners . for headliners. >> hello and welcome to headliners your first look at thursday's newspapers. i'm andrew doyle, and joining me with jokes and insight is heterodox jewish jewish josh howie and homer docs scott capurro what i was thinking orthodox jew . orthodox jew. >> but you're not orthodox, are you?

>> i'm a heterodox jew. >> i'm a heterodox jew. >> you're a heterodox jew, josh, by the way, just to explain, learnt the word heterodox for the first time the day and the first time the other day and now stop using it. it's now he can't stop using it. it's actually getting quite annoying. >> still don't know >> it is, but i still don't know what means. i'm what it means. but i'm just using lot. using it a lot. >> don't. tonight. please. scott, are you? scott, how are you? >> sounds like fake oreo >> it sounds like a fake oreo cookie, doesn't it? >> it doesn't >> yeah it does, it doesn't sound it doesn't. sound real. no it doesn't. so we'll if we get through we'll see if we can get through the whole show without using heterodox. right. the whole show without using heterhave right. the whole show without using heterhave at right. the whole show without using heterhave at the ght. the whole show without using heterhave at the front let's have a look at the front pages. now. the daily mail is running with in naked running with mps caught in naked honeytrap running with mps caught in naked honeywe're to cover stuff. we're going to cover that. telegraph has got that. the telegraph has got judges look at terms for judges to look at soft terms for depnved judges to look at soft terms for deprived offenders. the guardian is running former is running with former supreme court judges . add voices to court judges. add voices to calls for israeli arms ban . the calls for israeli arms ban. the times has got blood tests to help spot alzheimer's years earlier. and the express. pm we will quit euro court if rwanda flights are blocked. and finally, of course, the daily star going rogue with excalibur. arise. those were your front pages.

arise. those were your front pages . so arise. those were your front pages. so we're going to kick off by looking at thursday's telegraph. and josh howie has the details. yeah. >> first of all, there's a little picture at the top there. lionel shriver transgenderism is a social media just saying it aloud, which is good. that's well, you know, i mean, we've known that. but now you're known that. but now when you're seeing the front page of seeing that on the front page of a newspaper, people very a newspaper, people get very upset of social upset about the idea of social contagion comes to this. contagion when it comes to this. >> clearly. yeah, >> but it's clearly. yeah, that's right. >> it's at 4,000% >> i think it's at 4,000% increase girls . yeah, increase amongst girls. yeah, amongst young girls. anyway, so seeing kind of stuff. seeing that kind of stuff. anyways, from lionel i'm a anyways, from lionel and i'm a big his work , i actually big fan of his work, i actually looked that person up make looked that person up to make sure that that had been born a woman, and it was lionel is a girl's name. >> you hear my pronouns. >> you hear my pronouns. >> are you impressed? it was a woman who was born and still woman. >> yeah. there we go. no. how rare? no misgendering on this show. >> indeed. >> indeed. >> josh, what the main the >> josh, what is the main the big headline. yeah. judges to >> josh, what is the main the big iat dline. yeah. judges to >> josh, what is the main the big iat softz. yeah. judges to >> josh, what is the main the big iat soft termsi. judges to >> josh, what is the main the big iat soft terms for dges to >> josh, what is the main the big iat soft terms for deprived look at soft terms for deprived offenders. so this is the sentencing they've sentencing council and they've met up and they've, they've basically unilaterally decided this thing. it's not been voted

in. it's not been put through any of law or governance. in. it's not been put through any involvement»r governance. in. it's not been put through any involvement legislated|ce. yes. involvement legislated anyway. and it's quite a dangerous idea where if you and i can see why some people would think this makes sense. but if you come from a deprived background, socio economic background, socio economic background, or other factors that may , they think lead you to that may, they think lead you to a life of crime or committing crime , then you would get crime, then you would get a lesser offence, but critics have said, rightly, that first of all, that could lead to sort of two tiered, sentencing for, for someone , caught or sentenced for someone, caught or sentenced for the same crime , who was more the same crime, who was more middle class background. but also it's somewhat insulting to people from working class or lower socioeconomic backgrounds who don't commit crimes. >> but don't poor people steal things? i mean, isn't that the point? well, are they trying to? >> i think everybody still sees. but the rich people get away with a bit more, slightly bigger stuff. they're worried that >> i think they're worried that people without money who know people without money who i know you any, but people you don't know any, but people without money might lesser

without money might have lesser representation court . their representation in court. their legal representation might suffer. they're saying to suffer. so they're saying to balance that they should get lesser of a sentence. >> but aren't they talking really the socio economic really about the socio economic background, people who background, as in people who come backgrounds come from deprived backgrounds are up in are more likely to end up in criminality. as you say, criminality. but as you say, josh, hugely patronising, josh, it's hugely patronising, isn't you can't isn't it, to say that you can't follow law ? follow the law? >> but is it if your lawyer sucks and has been state appointed, if that's all you can afford? >> but it doesn't really talk about that in this article. but i think of the factors, but i think one of the factors, but i think one of the factors, but i think one of the factors, but i think that's one the things i think that's one of the things they're trying to. >> it isn't it >> but isn't it isn't it addressing the symptom rather than the cause? >> you think >> i mean, you know, i think there's statistical there's probably statistical evidence. to evidence. i know there is to suggest that criminality more suggest that criminality is more common if you come from a depnved common if you come from a deprived doesn't deprived background, but doesn't that should be that mean that we should be addressing why addressing the reasons why people are poorer, as in, can't we, know, strive a we, you know, strive for a fairer society where people aren't? >> that's exactly what it >> well, that's exactly what it is. just giving >> rather than just giving people if they people lighter sentences if they commit people lighter sentences if they conyeah, doing after >> yeah, they're doing it after the fact. whereas absolutely that but like that kind of resources. but like i think the that's i said, i think the thing that's slightly little slightly scary is maybe, little too much, but unnerving is that

they can just do this by themselves. the sentencing council, the judges kind of just have made this decision. >> it's not democratic, is it? yes, there's that. but also also, know, when rich people also, you know, when rich people steal, might it less, steal, they might do it less, but they they but when they do, they steal a lot. they get good stuff. lot. they get really good stuff. they great stuff. they get great stuff. >> should try to change >> maybe we should try to change the goal. >> that's what it is. be >> maybe that's what it is. be more motivational. yeah. interesting. okay. well we're going on the going to move on now to the front express. front cover of the express. scott, this one. scott, you've got this one. >> think, we will quit >> i think, we will we will quit euro court rwanda flights are euro court if rwanda flights are blocked, that's rishi sunak. >> yeah. i call chi chi. >> chi chi sunak has decided to flex her muscles pronouns. >> there's a lot of misgendering going on tonight. >> i know well, well, it's time. rishi the mp and pm, has rishi sunak, the mp and pm, has decided to fight a battle that he can't win. but he's trying to look strong because look really strong because there's i think. i there's an election, i think. i think is going to think the election is going to be sooner than later. >> so you this is about, >> so you think this is about, you but surely at this you know, but surely at this point knows he's not point he knows that he's not going win. but says going to win. yeah. but he says things like, illegal illegal immigration immigration of immigration or immigration of any sort.

>> that's not legal. it offends my sense of fairness . so he's my sense of fairness. so he's going that route. he's trying the classy route. going that route. he's trying the but,sy route. going that route. he's trying the but, josh, te. going that route. he's trying the but, josh, this is the >> but, josh, this is the european court of human rights. yeah. is yeah. i mean, there is a legitimate argument isn't legitimate argument here, isn't there? legitimate argument here, isn't there'about the rwanda plan, think about the rwanda plan, the idea , a decision should be idea that, a decision should be made uk that is then made within the uk that is then overruled by a foreign court. isn't there democratic issue isn't there a democratic issue there ? there? >> there a democratic issue >> there is a democratic issue there. this is also one of there. but this is also one of these things that you always talk about, which is the laws of unintended consequences. yes. we, integral to we, the uk, were integral to setting up the european court of human rights. yes. if we were to leave it, then it may well affect our citizens badly in the future. so just to get this kind of one plane or load of people, is it just about i mean, for me, because i don't think the rwanda plan is a good plan, but i also affect. >> yeah, but i also think it's a dodgy not you know, when, when, when all the legal when all of the top legal executives in this country and all the top legal authorities and the high court in the uk says legally do

says, yes, we can legally do this, a foreign court this, and then a foreign court says no , then it for me becomes says no, then it for me becomes about democracy. it doesn't become specific case. become about the specific case. >> becomes about mean, the >> it becomes about i mean, the strange is other strange thing is that other countries who part strange thing is that other co theies who part strange thing is that other co the european who part strange thing is that other co the european courtio part strange thing is that other co the european courtio human of the european court of human rights, been able to do rights, have been able to do something similar. right. so interesting. yeah i know that denmark has a similar policy and other countries are also looking into other countries are also looking inths denmark using a rwanda ? >> is denmark using a rwanda? >> is denmark using a rwanda? >> it seems? no, denmark is using the uk. >> that's just seems to turn people i think. yes. people off i think. yes. >> the rwanda thing and the >> and the rwanda thing and the rwandan angry rwandan government very angry about they're finding it about that. they're finding it very about that. they're finding it veryeah, are all right. >> isn't this the point though though? in though? these are judges in strasbourg. none of us voted them none of us them in. i'm sure none of us could any of them. are could name any of them. who are these people? why do they get to decide in decide anything that goes on in the uk? >> they're trying look >> they're trying to look after you. but didn't. didn't you. yeah, but didn't. didn't bofis you. yeah, but didn't. didn't boris threaten to pull of boris threaten to pull out of that? boris threaten to pull out of tha i’ boris threaten to pull out of thai mean been debates >> i mean there's been debates about but, you >> i mean there's been debates about i but, you >> i mean there's been debates about i think but, you >> i mean there's been debates about i think what but, you >> i mean there's been debates about i think what does you >> i mean there's been debates about i think what does america know, i think what does america sign international courts? >> i don't think they're part of the european court. no, no, no they're not. >> my geography i'm >> my geography is well, i'm just wouldn't but just thinking they wouldn't but they they like they wouldn't, would they like

they wouldn't, would they like the with eu. the american. same with the eu. the americans would never say, yeah, we'll outsource some of our yeah. our democracy abroad. yeah. >> country, got >> we got a big country, got a lot of stuff do. we have time. >> you're busy. yeah. busy. busy. that is fair. you're you're people. busy. that is fair. you're you'reyeah, people. busy. that is fair. you're you'reyeah,let's people. busy. that is fair. you're you'reyeah,let's pe> mps caught up in naked honeytrap it's honeytrap sixteen. yeah, it's the 1990s. >> saying that i love it. >> yeah, but this is , mps across >> yeah, but this is, mps across the political spectrum, labour and tory mps. and it's something called spear phishing. who knew this? the whole. yeah. like, you know. yeah, sure. i haven't heard of that. >> i have not heard of that. >> i have not heard of that. >> i have not heard of that. >> i don't know what is. >> i don't know what that is. >> i don't know what that is. >> basically are targeted >> so basically you are targeted with they like, with information that they like, know and know stuff about you and they know stuff about you and they know and go, oh, know lingo and they go, oh, how's know, they how's your part? you know, they know the name of your partner. >> this is a person who's >> this is a fake person who's going fake person. >> a tweet, hey, >> they send you a tweet, hey, how you doing? met at that thing. >> good to see you. hey, here's my buddy. >> good to see you. hey, here's my oh, dy. >> good to see you. hey, here's my oh, so? so spear phishing >> oh, so? so spear phishing relates to idea of relates to the idea of targeting. like targeting targeting. yes. like targeting a spean targeting. yes. like targeting a spear. yeah a well—aimed spean >> and then. and then they send some you're like, some nudes and then you're like, oh, did this oh, well, i did meet this person. have, because

person. i must have, because they're sending me their nudie duties. >> and then an mps been >> and then an mps have been caught this mps. caught up in this mps. >> well, and also some >> yeah. well, and also some staff, staff member got caught staff, a staff member got caught up. this has happened >> and so this has happened before. mp brooks before. there was an mp brooks newmark had similar newmark was it had a similar thing sent. it's a form of entrapment. >> yes. >> yes. >> well that's what happens to you you say, oh, i do know you if you say, oh, i do know this person sending me this person who's sending me nude you don't nude photos. well, you don't know them. >> that's thing. >> that's the thing. >> that's the thing. >> no, but you don't and >> no, but even if you don't and you say you do, what's the result? that's fine. >> your they >> but then you send your they say, my. oh then you say, oh, here's my. oh then you send yours. you go. >> you think though, >> do you think scott though, that effectively does that if someone effectively does resort to entrapment gets you to reply text? yeah. reply to a sexual text? yeah. should for should they be punished for that? i mean, because aren't they being. >> it depends result >> it depends on the result really. again, what happens to you punished? then you if you're punished? then i guess should because guess they should be because their you their intent is to get you caught up in something. that's guess. >> yeah, but should the mps be punished? because punished? you know, because i mean, entrapment has always been punished? you know, because i mcontroversialent has always been punished? you know, because i mcontroversialent ha butnays been a controversial thing, but i kind think it's not. kind of think it's not. >> they're sitting in their office at work. guess they office at work. i guess they should i don't what >> well, i don't know what they've necessarily they've done wrong, but it's that whole

thing. we're so polite thing. it's like we're so polite in if someone in this country, if someone sends photo, sends you like a nude photo, you're like, really want to you're like, i really want to send photo, but don't send a new photo, but i don't want to hurt their feelings. >> yeah, you're absolutely right. >> you send a nude photo >> you could send a nude photo of else. do that all of somebody else. i do that all the funny. of somebody else. i do that all the i funny. of somebody else. i do that all thei wish funny. of somebody else. i do that all thei wish you unny. stop. >> i wish you would stop. i know. well, please. >> i wish you would stop. i knookay, ll, please. >> i wish you would stop. i knookay, let'sease. >> i wish you would stop. i knookay, let's move on to >> okay, let's move on now to the daily star. i'm glad we're moving on, because that was getting x—rated me. getting a bit x—rated for me. okay, steamy in here, okay, a bit steamy in here, let's to the daily star now. let's go to the daily star now. of course, the daily star always runs stories. runs with bizarre stories. scott. this today scott. yeah, and this today is no exception. >> looking for the >> they're looking for the magical that magical excalibur sword, that king arthur's legend said existed. no one. sure, if it did, but if it did, this program called weird britain says there are several possibilities for locations . locations. >> but this is just an advert for that show, isn't it? i guess it's so weird. it's not it's just so weird. it's not the daily to find the daily star trying to find the excalibur. being paid excalibur. they're being paid for this. >> i also that a lot of >> i also think that a lot of people lot, yes. people are online. a lot, yes. and they think they know everything. >> well, let's let's be honest. >> well, let's let's be honest. >> but it is fun looking for treasure. >> sure, it didn't exist. >> sure, it didn't exist. >> we do it on this show all the time. >> let's be honest.

>> let's be honest. >> well, you that's i mean, for ofcom reasons, we should say that it did exist. >> i don't if ofcom's >> i don't know if ofcom's really about our really concerned about our theory. think we're going really concerned about our th> not a big >> that's not a big word syllable. >> pretty for me. >> that's pretty big for me. >> that's pretty big for me. >> syllables, all. >> that's pretty big for me. >> my syllables, all. >> that's pretty big for me. >> my headables, all. >> that's pretty big for me. >> my head hurt. all. >> my head hurt. >> my head hurt. >> look, anyway, they're not going excalibur because >> look, anyway, they're not gdon't excalibur because >> look, anyway, they're not gdon't think excalibur because >> look, anyway, they're not gdon't think itxcalibur because >> look, anyway, they're not gdon't think it existed. because >> look, anyway, they're not gdon't think it existed. butiuse i don't think it existed. but good it's always fun, good luck. it's always fun, though. preacher online though. i saw a preacher online talking how found talking about how he's found sodom sounds fun. sodom and gomorrah. sounds fun. >> yeah, been to that >> yeah, yeah, i've been to that bar. some photos loch bar. i saw some photos of loch ness there resurfacing those. >> find the >> they're trying to find the monster they? >> they're trying to find the mo and' they? >> they're trying to find the mo and' fun they? >> they're trying to find the mo and' fun too. y? >> they're trying to find the mo and' fun too. people >> and that's fun too. people are they want go look are bored. they want to go look for fun things. like, everyone loves those videos you see onune loves those videos you see online having their loves those videos you see onlinetaken having their loves those videos you see onlinetaken when having their loves those videos you see onlinetaken when the ling their loves those videos you see onlinetaken when the shark|eir loves those videos you see onlinetaken when the shark isr photo taken when the shark is coming them. coming up from behind them. i mean, fake, but mean, they're probably fake, but it's watch, think.

it's fun to watch, i think. >> think of this is fake. >> i think all of this is fake. but it'd be if we but yeah, it'd be great if we found nessie. i you know, i'd love that. >> yeah. >> em- 5 all the best. >> extreme. all the best. yeah. >> right. okay. well, look, that's newspapers that's the, the newspapers bodywork next bodywork checked in the next section, we go under the bonnet with

welcome back to headliners. your first look at thursday's newspapers. i'm andrew doyle and i'm joined by two comics that on any given weekend , account for any given weekend, account for most complaints by comedy club audiences. josh howie and audiences. it's josh howie and scott capurro. who's the more controversial i. you're scott you. >> surely you are. >> surely you are. >> he's much you're much warmer on stage than i am. i've been working with him recently. i'm surprised how cuddly you are on stage. yeah, and you get a lot. you get really a couple of you get a really a couple of really good points across by being nice. yeah. i'm just i'm too abrasive. >> abrasive. >> abrasive. >> know, i think you >> but, you know, i think you can away lot a can get away with a lot with a

smile, twinkle, little. >> you have got a little twinkle little naughty naughty. >> did yoga retreat in >> i just did a yoga retreat in switzerland they and they, switzerland and they and they, they me. they banned me. >> well, they may be over >> what? well, they may be over in corner. >> what? well, they may be over in they�*rner. >> what? well, they may be over in they banned you from yoga >> they banned you from a yoga retreat. >> they asked me, you >> they asked me, why do you yoga? why are you here? why are you a retreat? said to meet you on a retreat? i said to meet women and they didn't need all these angry. like these women got angry. i'm like okay, no sense okay, well, swiss have no sense of ineed okay, well, swiss have no sense of i need filter. okay, well, swiss have no sense of ineed filter. scott. okay, well, swiss have no sense of i need filter. scott. okay, >> i need a filter. scott. okay, we're to start with we're going to start with thursday's now. with thursday's times now. josh, with some mps who some good for news tory mps who want to retire. >> indeed, tory on course for >> indeed, tory is on course for the general election >> indeed, tory is on course for the the aneral election >> indeed, tory is on course for the the anera pollction >> indeed, tory is on course for the the anera poll shows. results, the 1997 poll shows. so we story every so we have this story every so often just keeps on often and it just keeps on getting worse, doesn't it? john cleese in they did cleese just in january they did it and were going, oh it and, and they were going, oh they're to lose really they're going to lose really badly. they've done badly. and then now they've done a poll and they're a new yougov poll and they're like, really like, no, but they're really going losing. like, no, but they're really goiiis losing. like, no, but they're really goiiis it losing. like, no, but they're really goiiis it going sing. like, no, but they're really goiiis it going to g. like, no, but they're really goiiis it going to be like brexit >> is it going to be like brexit and trump where the polls are just didn't just completely wrong? didn't someone say that hillary clinton had a 99.9% chance of winning that election? you know, so could it be like that? >> i really don't think so. it's all cyclical. this is what happened are bored. >> but this is like the climate

crisis. like another glacier has fallen. it's it's worse and fallen. it's just it's worse and worse . and i the tories worse. and i think the tories are just i think they've just thrown they've totally given up. >> but what's new about this is it saying labour will the it saying labour will become the biggest scotland? yes. biggest party in scotland? yes. now new. now that's new. >> yeah. and if there's anyone worse the tories, it's the worse than the tories, it's the snp. there's that more snp. well there's that more deserving kicked out . deserving of being kicked out. but the problem is that not having a strong opposition is not good for a democracy . it's not good for a democracy. it's not, it's not. it allows labour to or to whichever party is in power to really do whatever they want. the tories have had that for the last five years. yeah. and they've kind of squandered it. and in inaction and infighting . inadequacy. yeah. infighting. inadequacy. yeah. >> because i know you like labourjosh, but aren't >> because i know you like labour josh, but aren't you concerned by some of their policies no no one to policies having. no no one to sort of hold on a minute. sort of say hold on a minute. >> i am, i am a lib dems. >> no, i am, i am a lib dems. >> no. >> no. >> might em“ >> no. »n >> no. >> it saysiight 48 seats. >> no. >> it says ont 48 seats. >> no. >> it says on the 48 seats. >> no. >> it says on the articleeats. >> no. >> it says on the article aren't the lib dems even worse on certain issues. >> they're worse >> they're certainly worse on trans yeah, they're trans stuff. yeah, no they're lying they're massively

captured. they so about >> they lie. so what about what about that move to a about the idea that we move to a situation where are lots about the idea that we move to a situ'lots where are lots about the idea that we move to a situ'lots of 1ere are lots about the idea that we move to a situ'lots of smaller are lots about the idea that we move to a situ'lots of smaller parties, ts about the idea that we move to a situ'lots of smaller parties, we and lots of smaller parties, we get proportional representation, and lots of smaller parties, we gethaveortional representation, and lots of smaller parties, we get have ortionicoalitions. tation, we have more coalitions. >> you that? you get >> can you get that? you get that of yeah, you get that that kind of yeah, you get that kind of balance. >> like that, but the problem >> i like that, but the problem is haaland, like have is in haaland, they like to have that they said, that guy. and then they said, no, too you're not that guy. and then they said, no, to. too you're not that guy. and then they said, no, to. we're you're not that guy. and then they said, no, to. we're not you're not that guy. and then they said, no, to. we're not goingre not going to. we're not going to work with there's that work with you, that there's that problem people to problem of getting people to work together. >> the british didn't >> the british people, we didn't want had that want it. we had that opportunity. >> and we was weird, it? >> and we was weird, wasn't it? >> and we was weird, wasn't it? >> like, actually, >> and we were like, actually, no, what? yeah. no, you know what? yeah. >> they didn't offer us >> but they didn't offer us proportional representation. >> but they didn't offer us propc offered representation. >> but they didn't offer us propcoffered reprethatation. >> but they didn't offer us propcoffered reprethat weird they offered that that weird alternative they offered that that weird alt something they offered that that weird altsomething like they offered that that weird alt something like that. they offered that that weird altsomething like that. and no or something like that. and no one understood like not even one understood it. like not even the were selling it the people who were selling it understood people they >> and usually people vote. they want person think want one person they don't think about, go to. they about, you know, a go to. they don't that. don't want that. >> proportional >> like a proportional representation is easy to understand. >> why didn't like >> why didn't you like more actress here? really actress here? glenda did really well. jack carson. well. she did well. jack carson. she's popular. yeah. she's very popular. yeah. >> an actor charge? >> you want an actor in charge? well you know, they got a bit of clout there. >> a party. >> fun at a party. >> fun at a party. >> it worked with reagan. >> it worked with reagan. >> somebody young. >> you know somebody young. well, losing. well, we're going to be losing. >> there's quite lot of, tory >> there's quite a lot of, tory mps are going losing

mps who are going to be losing theirjobs. mps who are going to be losing their jobs. people mps who are going to be losing theirjobs. people are theirjobs. and also people are cutting well. cutting cabinet as well. >> out. thank god she's nuts. >> as long as they don't, you know, our headline know, take our headline and headune headline a slot. i'm fine. >> josh, thinking of himself? >> obviously. >> obviously. >> move on to tuesday's >> let's move on to tuesday's mail. turns the mail. scott. it turns out the biggest of scotland's new biggest loser of scotland's new hate its author. hate crime law is its author. yes, apparently, yousaf, yes, apparently, humza yousaf, hasn't very well. hasn't done very well. >> he got the most complaints since monday, since the law went into effect, and people were complaining about his scottish parliament speech on 10th, parliament speech on june 10th, 2020, rewatched , and it 2020, which i rewatched, and it reminded me how racist it was. and people have complained about it. it was racist, wasn't it? it's terrible. >> but he was basically berating the idea of it's a rant against white people. >> it's so strange to me too, because it's it's like us because it's like, it's like us complaining audience complaining about an audience when we're on yeah, when we're on stage. yeah, and we're closing a show. look, these already voted. these people already voted. you're you're in office. you're fine. you're in office. they just. you're fine. you're in office. theisn't just. you're fine. you're in office. theisn't scotland t. you're fine. you're in office. theisn't scotland something like >> isn't scotland something like 97% white? >> is really that >> why is he really that surprised that the white people >> why is he really that sur|overrepresented'hite people >> why is he really that sur|overrepresented in:e people >> why is he really that sur|overrepresented in those?le >> why is he really that sur|ovthere'ssented in those?le >> why is he really that sur|ovthere's somei in those?le >> why is he really that sur|ovthere's some kind]ose?le >> why is he really that sur|ovthere's some kind of e?le yeah, there's some kind of shaming of. >> and he named all the roles in the government, the public

service and civil. >> but what funny about this, >> but what is funny about this, you brought you know, they've brought through speech law through this hate speech law nearly complaints nearly 4000 complaints on day one. a couple days one. just a couple of days earlier yousaf, was earlier to humza yousaf, was saying there's going to be saying there's not going to be vexatious saying there's not going to be vexatiare, we'll very there are, we'll take them very seriously. them seriously. well, most of them are you people won't are about you and people won't weaponize it, which obviously the hugely the public is already hugely done surprised as done it. i'm surprised it was as low 4000. low as 4000. >> but jk rowling out >> yeah, but jk rowling came out all right. right >> so she didn't as many as humza. >> said. they've already >> you said. and they've already said to pursue said we're not going to pursue this, there's this, that there's no crime. >> also they've said that, >> and also they've said that, so also said that if so she's also said that if anybody uses those words anybody else uses those words who have her or, who doesn't have her money or, profile that she back them profile that she will back them up and repeat those up and use and repeat those words so it will show words herself. so it will show the hypocrisy and be able the hypocrisy and they'd be able to with it. so it's protection. >> why so basically she's >> why josh? so basically she's called yeah. she called their bluff. yeah. she said, i'm going to said, you know, i'm going to misgender willoughby misgender india willoughby whatever you or whatever you come and they've come after me then and they've said, we won't. but that said, no, we won't. but is that just because she's and just because she's so rich and powerful after powerful they might go after someone they might, but she >> well, they might, but she that's is now said. but that's why she is now said. but in the court law they'll say, in the court of law they'll say, well, rowling it, well, look, jk rowling said it, so can't. well, look, jk rowling said it, so i can't. well, look, jk rowling said it, so ithink't. well, look, jk rowling said it, so i think if they're going to >> i think if they're going to go they go after

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society, can what society, people can say what they want of free they want because of free speech. that solve it. speech. that would solve it. >> did something very >> someone did something very funny the funny where so that they, the victim, the minister for victims and brown , a and community, siobhan brown, a complaint was made in her name with her telephone number, and then the police called her up to say, check the complaint. so that's a waste of time right there. >> this is such a farce. and, you know, siobhan brown was on was on the misrepresenting was on the bbc misrepresenting the it wrong. like the law. she got it wrong. like the law. she got it wrong. like the snp don't even know law the snp don't even know the law that created. that they created. >> i mean, know, >> well, i mean, you know, the humza said, on to camera humza himself said, on to camera last week. he said no, this is not going to be weaponized. it won't be used in this way or that way. and they had a lawyer on the bbc later saying, it doesn't matter he says. doesn't matter what he says. it's what courts what it's what the courts and what the decide. has the police decide. he has nothing this. nothing to do with this. >> but what siobhan >> yeah, but that's what siobhan brown that, you brown was saying, that, you know, all down police know, this is all down to police discretion. they've got two hours and then hours of training and then they're out they're going to work out whether or not. this whether to proceed or not. this is a total joke. whole thing is a total joke. the whole thing is a total joke. the whole thing is thing is, as we were is a scary thing is, as we were going back to the previous story, whether labour story, is whether labour implements come

implements it when they come into say would be labour say they would be interested continuing it, interested in continuing it, which interested in continuing it, whibut, labour, edinburgh >> but, but labour, edinburgh gays after each gays are going to go after each other that edinburgh gay scene is so bitter. >> people, of course they're >> oh people, of course they're going their own going to use it for their own nasty, revenge. nasty, their own little revenge. >> meanest about >> the meanest thing said about me by gay men. oh, really? i hate gay men. okay on that hate gay men. okay well, on that homophobic your homophobic note, send your complaints scotland complaints to police scotland right now. >> now, josh, teachers in >> do. now, josh, teachers in the telegraph giving giving themselves an a plus. i imagine you'd like to appeal. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> this is the story that's going my head explode. going to make my head explode. so save lives by prolonging so we save lives by prolonging school pandemic , school closures in pandemic, says teachers. >> winning. look, winning. says teachers. >> wiryou've ook, winning. says teachers. >> wiryou've said winning. says teachers. >> wiryou've said ainning. says teachers. >> wiryou've said a lot ng. says teachers. >> wiryou've said a lot about you've you've said a lot about this in the past because, but so i'll let you off. >> it'sjust i'll let you off. >> it's just that you okay. the any, any you the national education union are meeting having their conference at the moment and they have actually put forward a motion saying, look how great we were by basically ruining a generation of children's future. and causing mental health issues and causing mental health issues and causing some of the lowest test,

results recorded for maths and english. yes. and they are proud of it. and going well done us for a virus that didn't affect children exactly. >> that didn't exist. the guardian actually ran an article last week i read i was in last week i read while i was in switzerland at the yoga retreat where stating that where i was banned, stating that the is about a half the average kid is about a half year behind now because the year behind now because of the shutdown and that some kids, many kids, never catch up many kids, will never catch up to is effectively to that. that is effectively ruined their lives. yes. and that social distancing in schools unnecessary and schools was unnecessary and didn't work well. schools was unnecessary and did they)rk well. schools was unnecessary and did they must..l. >> they must. >> they must. >> kids, masked them >> these kids, they masked them even didn't work. the even that didn't work. the guardians this, you guardians saying this, if you had that even just had said that a year even just a year ago, you would have sounded like conspiratorial like a crazy conspiratorial person. they're person. yeah. and now they're admitting person. yeah. and now they're admifind it crazy that exactly >> i find it crazy that exactly that at risk. that children were not at risk. old at risk. the old people were at risk. the vulnerable was very, vulnerable that was shown very, very early on. >> the fact that the mcu, >> but the fact that the mcu, which, way, is controlled which, by the way, is controlled by bunch of, oh, super by a bunch of, oh, the super cranky terrible. cranky people. terrible. the fact that they're not actually just yeah, just apologising. yeah, or taking ownership taking some level or ownership of actually go , we of it, but to actually go, we thank you're welcome.

>> but that's that's what activists do. they they completely say the opposite. they gaslight. they say the opposite. the mcu is an activist body also happens to be body which also happens to be the largest teaching union in the largest teaching union in the it's disaster. the country. it's a disaster. aren't they? >> ones telling kids to not >> the ones telling kids to not tell parents they tell their parents that they want to transition? >> oh, they're doing all of that sort i don't if sort of stuff. i don't know if they're specifically, they're doing that specifically, but me. but it wouldn't surprise me. they're that organise they're the ones that organise protests. >> you protests. » you protests. >> they you i'm surprised protests. >> they actually i'm surprised protests. >> they actually i'm surptoed that they actually had time to put this motion instead put forward this motion instead of some anti—israel. of doing some anti—israel. >> as well. probably. >> probably as well. probably. i mean, you know, a mean, next, you know, is there a way that can just say, way that schools can just say, you a member you know, you can't be a member of because it's not of that union because it's not really union? really a union? >> i've got a lot of >> you know, i've got a lot of friends who are teachers, and a lot have actually left lot of them have actually left the any. they're jewish and they feel they believe the any. they're jewish and they feel it's they believe the any. they're jewish and they feel it's anti—semitic, believe the any. they're jewish and they feel it's anti—semitic, beliyjust that it's anti—semitic, not just on the israel issue. >> wrong on every >> they are wrong on every single >> they are wrong on every singthis is very wrong on this >> this is very wrong on this about pandemic upsets about the pandemic just upsets me just read in me now. i mean, ijust read in california, the age of california, the average age of someone died was 81. in the someone who died was 81. in the pandemic, than pandemic, which is older than older age of older than the average age of death. lives. >> yeah, was lives. >> yeah, was a lives. >> yeah, was was a health >> yeah, it was it was a health thing. i mean, i it thing. no, i mean, i had it three times. it was pretty grim,

but the risky but i wasn't in the risky bracket, you know, you had a flu. no, it it was flu. oh, no, it was, it was worse. it could been hangoven >> you've been hanging out with lewis much. lewis too much. >> we're going to move on now to the buying the express, and forget buying a home can't even rent one. >> no, apparently, because of higher right. >> no, apparently, because of higher more right. >> no, apparently, because of higher more rlett. there are more buy to let mortgages arrears. there's mortgages in arrears. so there's few were available flats and fewer people looking to rent flats . but what that means is flats. but what that means is because there's less property available, there's more people looking for fewer properties, i think. yeah. >> any thoughts one? >> any thoughts on this one? well just ten renters well it's just the ten renters for property. for every property. >> and i hear anecdotally from anecdotally word . anecdotally that's the word. yeah okay. we know i heard you use it once. yeah from people who work here who are renters who work here who are renters who are who missed out on who was still it's just not to just get a place is just is really, really hard . really hard. >> you should show up with a pizza. is that how you do it? yeah, sure. and a cake. you're just trying impress the just trying to impress the person the place. person who owns the place. anything do to send them person who owns the place. ainudie? do to send them a nudie? >> that sounds that episode >> that sounds like that episode of ross trying of friends where ross is trying to the he sends him

to get the flat and he sends him a mini muffins. no, a basket of mini muffins. no, you to. every story you really have to. every story comes down episode friends. >> actually does. >> it actually does. >> it actually does. >> they've covered whole >> they've covered the whole gamut of human existence. it was >> they've covered the whole gewas of human existence. it was >> they've covered the whole gewas wonderful. existence. it was it was wonderful. >> pandemic, too. >> they cover the pandemic, too. >> they cover the pandemic, too. >> they did, in >> yeah. i'm sure they did, in a subtle, way. anyway, subtle, insidious way. anyway, that's part. that's the end of this part. we've the point and we've hit the halfway point and the till the downward slope till midnight, kids to treat midnight, teaching kids to treat gun wounds, parents to gun wounds, teaching parents to bake , and teaching mps bake a potato, and teaching mps fake news. all of these stories are true. or are

welcome back to headliners. your first look at thursday's newspapers. we're going to get straight back into it with the telegraph . and will the snp telegraph. and will the snp conversion bill get through on a wing and a prayer ? it's you scott. >> oh i'm sorry. yes sorry. they were out of order a little bit. sorry about that, the. yes, the conversion bath. the snp plans to ban conversion therapy . yes.

to ban conversion therapy. yes. even though there are local groups like religious leaders and parents saying we don't want you to do that, because what if we have a consulting moment with our our child our child, or we want our child to way out of being 93v? gay? >> wi w- gay? >> is that going g is that going >> how is that going to be the law at moment? illegal law at the moment? illegal i mean, because conversion therapy, i think of the kind of wiring to electrodes, wiring people up to electrodes, as you know, aversion, the pubuc as you know, aversion, the public paying it. as you know, aversion, the putlt's paying it. as you know, aversion, the putlt's illegal.g it. as you know, aversion, the putlt's illegal.g it what >> it's illegal. that's what i think if the nhs think it is. i think if the nhs is providing it, then that's illegal. but a parent says , illegal. but if a parent says, oh, my daughter says she's a lesbian, can you make her pray? maybe she'll be heterosexual afterward. that's not thing afterward. that's not the thing is, , what i would say is, currently, what i would say is, currently, what i would say is that it doesn't work. >> that's quite part . >> that's quite which part. speaking from personal experience, the praying the gay away just it never ever works. >> do a shout out to andrew's mum. yeah but but you know, that's the about that's the point about it. >> mean, it's not the same as >> i mean, it's not the same as those old now illegal conversion therapy practices that i'm talking about. the medical attempts . but the attempts to convert. but the praying thing, you know, it might distressing, but it's might be distressing, but it's not the same. it's not on the same level. >> well, but the interesting

thing is, when we've talked about past, it's about this in the past, it's always about usually always been about usually focusing on the trans issue and the of the people who the risks of the people who might be doing talking, talking therapy to them being therapy to, to, to them being made illegal. yes, those practices actually practices here and actually somewhat i read somewhere online said it made point. it's said it made a good point. it's not that. talk about not about that. we talk about converting trans kids, but really really talking really what we're really talking about gay and about is converting gay kids and autistic yeah. autistic kids. yes. yeah. to trans. of course, but trans. yeah of course, but what's interesting on this angle is that this is coming from religious people, and it's saying that it's this connects more to the gay conversion as we understand it . yeah. and i think understand it. yeah. and i think we can all agree that gay conversion is wrong. i think in any way, even even the prayer element of it is this idea that you can pray away the gay is, well, it's just a ridiculous idea . idea. >> it's just not true. but but on the other hand, it's true, really. but on the sexy though, isn't it? >> it is. that's what i like. i like the bit of free song i like people feeling bad about themselves. do themselves. they'll do just about anything.

>> like seeing the >> i mean, i do like seeing the sort the people who run these sort of the people who run these conversion they're sort of the people who run these conve usually they're sort of the people who run these conve usually obviouslythey're sort of the people who run these conve usually obviously reallye often usually obviously really gay, flamboyantly gay, really like flamboyantly hands can't fight back. >> i it's true. hands can't fight back. >> it's it's true. hands can't fight back. >> it's funny, true. hands can't fight back. >> it's funny, buta. hands can't fight back. >> it's funny, but but just the thing is, though, religious freedom important. and freedom is also important. and if say if people want to say homosexuality wrong we homosexuality is wrong and we will they should will pray for you, they should be . be allowed. >> it's not just they're forcing you for an hour you to pray for an hour with them. you to pray for an hour with the no, someone to pray >> no, forcing someone to pray should anyway. should be illegal anyway. forcing anything forcing someone to do anything shouldn't forcing someone to do anything shothis't forcing someone to do anything shothis is my story. can i talk >> this is my story. can i talk also, i'm kidding. but it's also, no, i'm kidding. but it's also, no, i'm kidding. but it's also think, church also about, i think, the church not infiltrating not wanting anyone infiltrating their therapy for other their therapy sessions for other issues for just their therapy sessions for other issues forjust gay issues too. not for just gay conversion. right. i think if they think they give this to, you know, the courts and say, oh, this can be then anything that they consult people on is going be seen as illegal. did going to be seen as illegal. did anyone ever pray you, scott, anyone ever pray for you, scott, to out of it? to get you out of it? >> but my mother bought me a pair of knee when i was pair of knee pads when i was youngen pair of knee pads when i was younger, would save younger, hoping it would save me, but i use them for something else. the daily next. me, but i use them for something else.josh,:he daily next. me, but i use them for something else.josh, an daily next. me, but i use them for something else.josh, an interesting next. me, but i use them for something else.jositoan interesting next. me, but i use them for something else.jositoan irdoctorng next. me, but i use them for something else.jositoan irdoctor shortage. yes. >> disbelief at sad state of affairs as police are brought

into schools to teach 13 year olds how to treat stab and gunshot wounds. now, i would suggest when it gets when suggest that when it gets when it gets to this point, we might have already there's a problem. >> yeah, there's definitely a problem at that point. yeah. >> so this is a school in >> yes. so this is a school in aninner >> yes. so this is a school in an inner city, london academy, and yeah, that is, in southwark, and yeah, that is, in southwark, and southwark. southwark. >> southwark. >> southwark. >> are you all right? you sound like an american trying to pronounce i know pronounce it. even i know that, i apologise. think it's good i apologise. i think it's good kids learn skills, though. >> age, isn't it really? >> well, they suppose, >> well, they start, i suppose, but rather than. but that is, rather than. >> course , i'm sure that they >> of course, i'm sure that they also have hopefully some lessons going, you know, don't stab people shoot people. people, don't shoot people. but the gets to this the idea that it gets to this point of course. point is of course. >> but again, we're going after the symptom, not the cause, but it's other crime. >> because i read a lot of stabbings and shootings happen >> because i read a lot of stabbi iss and shootings happen >> because i read a lot of stabbi iss .there?yotings happen there. is it there? >> there, of the >> it is around there, 5% of the total. crazy, and total. yeah. it's crazy, and brent greenwich and newham, brent and greenwich and newham, these 25% of all the these are 25% of all the homicides in the last seven years. yeah, i lived there for a

few years. yeah, i lived is greenwich rough? >> can be, be. i mean it's >> can be, can be. i mean it's really posh. >> deptford. you've got deptford just. >> yeah. deptford. just. >> there'septford. >> there's council. >> deptford. rough >> deptford. rough >> council >> come on. there's council blocks right in greenwich. right around the corner. >> right. christopher >> you're right. christopher marlowe the face marlowe was stabbed in the face in 1500s. in deptford in the 1500s. >> yes. okay >> yes. okay >> well long. >> well so long. >> well so long. >> it's not changed >> yeah. it's not changed much. >> yeah. it's not changed much. >> real problems. knife >> real problems. there's knife crime issue crime has always been an issue there. yeah. anyway, there. yeah, yeah. anyway, okay, we're going to move on to the mail scott, is a mail now, scott, is there a doctor they've doctor shortage? because they've all chefs? all become chefs? >> that's the thing, gps >> yeah, that's the thing, gps are teach kids who are are trying to teach kids who are fat how to not be fat. >> so the teaching is a very offensive terminology. >> no, teaching parents. >> oh, no, but once one >> oh, right. no, but once one guy l >> oh, right. no, but once one guy i had one mom and her guy said, i had one mom and her child was overweight, but she was a young parent. she actually didn't know how to cook the dinner, spent dinner, so. oh, so she spent time her the child? time with her in the child? yeah. the fat, yeah. so maybe the mom is fat, too. couple fat people too. so the couple of fat people that cheese that are eating cheese sandwiches and stuff, and they're teaching them how to eat, cucumbers eat, you know, cucumbers and things, meals without. can you do story, josh? >> can you do this story, josh? without anyone? >> can you do this story, josh? wit not anyone? >> can you do this story, josh? wit no , anyone? >> can you do this story, josh? wit no , because anyone? >> can you do this story, josh? wit no , because the anyone? >> can you do this story, josh? wit no , because the point e? >> can you do this story, josh? wit no , because the point is, the >> no, because the point is, the whole country is getting fat. and these kids,

and especially all these kids, they're 37% of kids. >> have to >> i have spoken to fat activists me that there activists who tell me that there is risks with being is no health risks with being morbidly obese, except for when they years. they die 2030 years. >> but i spoke to those people. >> but i spoke to those people. >> that danish comedian? >> is that that danish comedian? >> is that that danish comedian? >> yeah, yeah. the >> yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. the fat one. yes. >> yeah yeah yeah. it's >> yeah yeah yeah. no, it's absolutely ridiculous. >> yeah yeah yeah. no, it's absolutelthey, ulous. >> yeah yeah yeah. no, it's absolutelthey, they;. >> yeah yeah yeah. no, it's absolutelthey, they make she >> yeah. they, they make the she makes driver up to the makes the limo driver up to the front of the theatre because she can't walk it. that's the thing. there's more than three metres. she complains because fat. she complains because she's fat. i'm just saying i mean i know i'm just saying i mean i know i'm curse be i'm skinny. it's a curse to be thin like this. because people blame being skinny when blame me for being skinny when their is that their butt their problem is that their butt should they should gps be teaching me they should gps be teaching me they should there should cook, but there is a problem because said problem here because as it said here, to excellent here, you used to have excellent cookery teaching in school. >> yes, these things >> yes, these kind of things look. yeah i read an interesting thing today. i was like, what is school terms getting school for in terms of getting you jobs? as you ready for jobs? but as opposed getting you ready for opposed to getting you ready for life. yes. and the fact we don't get taught these things anymore about mortgage, to about how to get a mortgage, to how do bank, there are some very bafic how do bank, there are some very basic skills that a lot of people aren't learning . and we people aren't learning. and we didn't to cook school. didn't learn to cook at school.

you no, didn't , we? i think we >> no, we didn't, we? i think we made an arctic roll. >> i think the problem is part of and the food. of your house and the food. >> didn't really do >> well, we didn't really do food. >> well, we didn't really do foo�*you tesco. >> you served tesco. >> you served tesco. >> that there >> you served tesco. >> be that there >> you served tesco. >> be more:hat there >> you served tesco. >> be more focus|ere >> you served tesco. >> be more focus on should be more focus on preparing life , as well preparing you for life, as well as being in work, less microwave bells. >> and you have guests over. how about that? >> now is about me. >> oh, now this is about me. >> oh, now this is about me. >> heard the microwave in the >> i heard the microwave in the other because how >> yeah, because that's how i cook. it's a device that cooks. >> processed. cheaper, >> processed. food is cheaper, it's tastier , it's it's easier, it's tastier, it's tastier. and of tastier. it's addictive. and of course, people are course, that's why people are choosing of those. choosing all of those. >> saw you sneaking food >> i saw you sneaking our food into your whatever it into your purse or whatever it was. into your purse or whatever it wasmy that's a leather >> my it. that's a leather backpack i'll have. >> well, whatever it i was >> well, whatever it was, i was very offended. >> well, whatever it was, i was vergucci. ded. >> gucci. >> f- >> look, don't offend my cooking. anyway, on cooking. anyway, let's move on now commas . cooking. anyway, let's move on now commas. this now to the inverted commas. this is josh. this story is the times, josh. this story is the times, josh. this story is to make you sick. is enough to make you sick. >> oh gosh. yeah, calories on menus trigger people with menus will trigger people with eating disorders. this is another law in scotland . they another law in scotland. they are really going all out. and and a group of some thing called what are they called bite. no that's not what they're called

beat. sorry, that was not a joke. genuinely, i thought they were called bite. okay, 200 people going people they're saying are going to a were asked and to be a were asked questions and they it's going to they said, oh, it's going to trigger if see trigger them because if they see calories, thin calories, it's going to thin shame something . yeah. shame them or something. yeah. yeah. but again, you have this totalitarian or utilitarian sorry idea that what's the for best the most people. and i'm sorry if a couple of people get triggered. >> you think it's good to have the on the menu? the calories on the menu? >> why not? it's if >> i think why not? it's good if it's people and if it's going to help people and if it's going to help people and if it's need the we can it's we need all the help we can get. if you're going to get. if it's if you're going to see go, wait a see that and go, whoa, wait a minute, double minute, that's double the amount. i even understand amount. i don't even understand how but if you how calories work. but if you compare go, wait a compare it and you go, wait a minute, that's that's to minute, that's that's going to make well, make me a bit fat, i'll well, maybe that's too that but maybe that's a bit too that but so, the idea that people maybe that's a bit too that but so, the 1e idea that people maybe that's a bit too that but so, the calories that people maybe that's a bit too that but so, the calories thethey,ple maybe that's a bit too that but so, the calories thethey, they maybe that's a bit too that but so, upsetalories thethey, they maybe that's a bit too that but so, upsetalories titheyy, they maybe that's a bit too that but so, upsetalories tithey don'ty get upset and then they don't have anything. >> is that what they say? >> is that what they say? >> well, that's what they're saying it's a or saying here. but it's a or do they with eating they eat they people with eating they eat too much. >> g they react to >> that's how they react to stress maybe is that they overeat when they see the calories think that overeat when they see the cal( lost. think that overeat when they see the cal( lost. the think that overeat when they see the cal( lost. the whole think that overeat when they see the cal( lost. the whole thing1k that overeat when they see the cal( lost. the whole thing is that it's lost. the whole thing is lost. i'll get or lost. i'll never get ahead or i'll never this weight, so i'll never lose this weight, so i'll never lose this weight, so i well just shove it i might as well just shove it in, i think.

i might as well just shove it in, ithink. i might as well just shove it in, i don't think >> i don't think more information a bad thing, but information is a bad thing, but i think just kowtowing i do think that just kowtowing to will be to a few people who will be affected, just close affected, it's like, just close your yeah. your eyes. yeah, yeah. okay >> move now. >> well, let's move on now. >> well, let's move on now. >> the guardian, >> scott, the guardian, we have to our when we look to close our eyes when we look at right? that's what you mean? >> i mean, that's very offensive. the offensive. yeah. okay. the guardian has a story about recognising guardian has a story about recogwhen| could just sun. when it could have just used its coverage of the used its own coverage of the whisper incident. >> stories the whisper incident. >> have stories the whisper incident. >> have becomees the whisper incident. >> have become quite 1e whisper incident. >> have become quite a thing. press have become quite a thing. so hillsborough so the sun's hillsborough story has an example to has been used as an example to teach mps what fake news actually looks like. so they've provided a good information kit for house commons so that for the house of commons so that mps can, you know, rifle through stories and decide what what's real, what's not. >> because about the sun blaming the fans for the hillsborough. >> and then the sun apologised in yes. with a front page in 2012. yes. with a front page apology they claimed they apology where they claimed they had used misinformation. yeah. when they'd lied. when actually they'd lied. >> so there's all of this stuff about misinformation now. it seems to the obsession seems to be the main obsession about everyone josh, is about everyone online. josh, is it not the case, though, that the reason we're this the reason we're in this position, where people position, where so many people are fake news, is are believing in fake news, is because legacy media, the

because the legacy media, the mainstream media, has been caught lying to us so many times, so people go elsewhere. isn't problem? times, so people go elsewhere. isn'that's problem? times, so people go elsewhere. isn'that's exactly)lem? times, so people go elsewhere. isn'that's exactly what the >> that's exactly what the problem like, problem is. and it's like, you said your link, you have said in your link, when you have like spa incident, that like the wii spa incident, that that way that like the wii spa incident, that th reported way that like the wii spa incident, that th reported it way that like the wii spa incident, that th reported it was way that like the wii spa incident, that threported it was like way that like the wii spa incident, that threported it was like that that it reported it was like that they called called out on that. it even happened for people who don't know about it, there was a sexual assault or someone , a man sexual assault or someone, a man showed bits saying was showed his bits saying he was a trans woman in the spa in la. and the way that guardian reported it was like this woman was it up. turned was making it up. and it turned out because she went to out she because she went to church, she was right wing. church, that she was right wing. she's with six she's a black lady with a six year daughter, it was year old daughter, and it was utterly shameful their reporting. that reporting. so the idea that they're kind of calling a calling to this calling attention to this misinformation is ridiculous, because they are just as guilty. >> also bbc doing >> we've also had the bbc doing it recently. just just the stuff that well, the that isn't true. well, the emittance the intent, emittance, but the intent, i think, stories should be think, of news stories should be to sort of limit the agenda, but it seems as though that's all that sells papers now. >> people it turns out, >> people do, as it turns out, when they're reading stories, they of they're craving they kind of they're craving the knowledge perspective of

knowledge of the perspective of the writer. it's very strange. >> yeah, but i don't want that. i know i just want to know what happened. make my own mind up. >> but again, your university educated, people are thick. educated, most people are thick. >> sick i'm. >> i'm sick of. i'm. >> want. want >> you just want. you want facts. information. facts. you want the information. but exactly right. but that's exactly right. i think i think think you're. no, no, i think you're right. i think newspapers. just to newspapers. it's just now to reinforce their readership. >> well, we've got go >> okay, well, we've got to go to break just one to a break now. it's just one more to go , but we've more section to go, but we've got watercooler got some fascinating watercooler stories saito stories for you. we've got saito dominance, self—aware ants, and growing vegan shoes. come back in

welcome back to headliners. it's your first look at thursday's newspapers. josh, we're going to kick the times now. kick off with the times now. where it's 1:00. yeah. where it's1:00. yeah. >> white asks nasa to >> white house asks nasa to create moon >> white house asks nasa to creatyear. moon >> white house asks nasa to creatyear. they're moon >> white house asks nasa to creatyear. they're m(be next year. they're going to be going to flying around the going back to flying around the moon. hopefully they're moon. hopefully in 26. they're going land on the going to actually land on the moon good. which is going going to actually land on the m

m> but the thing is, we haven't done ages and think done this for ages and i think it's humanity forward. >> yeah, we don't know >> yeah, and but we don't know the up there. there's, the time up there. there's, there's different gravity. it means slightly, slower there's different gravity. it means fast slightly, slower there's different gravity. it means fast time.lightly, slower there's different gravity. it means fast time. fast.y, slower there's different gravity. it means fast time. fast time.wer time or fast time. fast time. and so they need to work out nasa is going to work out some universal system, which can be called coordinat and lunar time. yes. question is, will yes. the question is, will some like a place china or even like a place like china or even india and go, wait a india step in and go, wait a minute, why are you americans controlling going to be part >> yeah, it's going to be part of the space race. >> owns moon, by the way? >> that's a good question . i >> that's a good question. i think what the americans, the americans put the flag in it first. it's still there. i think it's ours. >> russians didn't put >> the russians didn't put a flag first. >> w- flag first. >> didn't the >> no, no, the didn't the americans the russians know they were. >> they were, i guess the russians, russians russians, the russians went around chucked >> they could have chucked a flag know. but flag at it, i don't know. but they to that. they didn't think to do that. >> yeah. spearheaded >> yeah. they spearheaded a flag, interesting. flag, so it'll be interesting. but sync like but whether they sync up, like the like it's new the days, like when it's new york there for the for york time up there for the for the for the prime of it or not. >> well, this is the first step.

not. >> imoon his is the first step. not. >> imoon then the first step. not. >> imoon then the fithen ep. not. >> imoon then the fithen beyond. the moon then mars, then beyond. >> lay some train >> then they can lay some train tracks. they that tracks. that's why they did that whole in the us. whole time zone thing in the us. is trains. yeah is that the trains. yeah >> maybe we'll >> well, maybe we'll get a transport on moon. transport system on the moon. >> yeah, works than >> yeah, that works better than this one. >> sure it will great. >> i'm sure it will be great. yeah. well, let's on yeah. okay. well, let's move on now story. scott in the now to a story. scott in the daily this is about incest now to a story. scott in the dajapan. this is about incest now to a story. scott in the dajapan. yeah.; is about incest in japan. yeah. >> japan going >> everybody in japan is going to same name by 2531. to have the same name by 2531. >> now how can that be? >> now how can that be? >> because they have to share a name, a married couple, they have to have the same name and usually women give up their maiden name. >> good. yes. >> yeah. oh, josh, they're getting. yeah. women's names are silly anyway. so they're, they're going to limit it down. they're out of names they're running out of names basically they have basically because they have a very this very limited vocabulary. this name sutra is it. >> that pronounce it >> sato is that you pronounce it soto. so in other soto. sato. sato so in other words, people are they everyone's with words, people are they eve same s with words, people are they eve sames they've with the same name. they've calculated this by this point. so going to have to so aren't they going to have to change because change the rules? because according this according to this, this civil code only came in in 1898. yeah. so it's that old. code only came in in 1898. yeah. sknow, it's that old. code only came in in 1898. yeah. sknow, you it's that old. code only came in in 1898. yeah. sknow, you know, that old. code only came in in 1898. yeah. sknow, you know, it's that old. code only came in in 1898. yeah. sknow, you know, it's nott old. code only came in in 1898. yeah. sknow, you know, it's not likei. i know, you know, it's not like they're or they've i know, you know, it's not like

theyfour or they've i know, you know, it's not like theyfour theyyr they've i know, you know, it's not like theyfour they got ey've i know, you know, it's not like theyfour they got iy've i know, you know, it's not like theyfour they got i think got four names they got i think one suzukl is got four names they got i think one suzuki, is making one is suzuki, one is i'm making these up. >> p- these up. >> suzuki and tanaka these up. >> sato suzuki and tanaka these up. >> sato , suzuki and tanaka these up. >> sato , those rzuki and tanaka these up. >> sato , those arei and tanaka these up. >> sato , those are thed tanaka these up. >> sato , those are the four1aka and sato, those are the four names they've limited. >> we had a similar system in this country. everyone end this country. everyone would end up wouldn't up being called smith, wouldn't they? i think they? so we need to. i think they? so we need to. i think they just need to change the law. >> well, that's what they're trying to do because they want women their women to be able to use their own names for work. >> wouldn't it be better to invent new names, like when two people of people get married, instead of arguing about, why don't you come arguing about, why don't you conwhy don't you come up with a >> why don't you come up with a japanese right on air? >> why don't you come up with a jap i'llse right on air? >> why don't you come up with a jap i'll do right on air? >> why don't you come up with a jap i'll do rightght on air? >> i'll do it right now. >> i'll do it right now. >> japanese sounding name. >> japanese sounding name. >> shishi, we >> how about shishi, i there we go. what about karaoke? go. i'll go. what about karaoke? okay, good. a okay, that's a good. that's a good name. >> getting cancelled. good name. >> a getting cancelled. good name. >> a bit getting cancelled. good name. >> a bit racist,; cancelled. good name. >> a bit racist, but.icelled. >> a little bit racist, but. yeah, sure. that's all yeah, sure. yeah, that's all right. you know, right. but, i mean, you know, i think the problem really think that the problem is really in story reading and in this story i was reading and i've been to japan and worked there. that the i've been to japan and worked there. don't that the i've been to japan and worked there. don't any hat the i've been to japan and worked there. don't any power. women don't have any power. i mean, don't. mean, they really still don't. even after these decades of even after all these decades of women empower women trying to empower themselves in japan, there are no it's a patriarchal society. >> it very much so and so i think that that changing think that could that changing that actually that could help actually changing good changing this law would be good for maybe maybe the let >> maybe maybe let the maybe let the decide the name is. >> but look, it's all moot

because they point because as they as they point out, the declining out, because of the declining birth rate, there's going to be no japanese people alive at that time. you know that, right? they're to extinct, they're going to be extinct, basically, they basically, that they or they all very alarmist living very alarmist to me not living in japan. very alarmist to me not living in japarknow, that in japan, all >> you know, that in japan, all little cleared out little towns have cleared out that as ages, that the property, as it ages, the less the property becomes less valuable. japanese do valuable. so the japanese do leave urban leave and they move to urban areas. there's young areas. and so there's no young people teachers people left. so the teachers teach dummies children. teach dummies built as children. they're classrooms. >> this sounds replaced. >> wait, this sounds replaced. >> wait, this sounds replaced. >> people with >> all the young people with this a john grisham. this sounds like a john grisham. >> dummies are overweight. this sounds like a john grisham. >> yeah,ummies are overweight. this sounds like a john grisham. >> yeah, with ies are overweight. this sounds like a john grisham. >> yeah, with ies .samearweight. this sounds like a john grisham. >> yeah, with ies .same name.|t. >> yeah, with the same name. >> yeah, with the same name. >> on the >> let's move on to the telegraph now , josh, what goes telegraph now, josh, what goes up must come down. >> indeed. >> indeed. >> spum counts. fall as temperatures rise. new research suggests scientists suggests, this is, scientists in singapore found that singapore have found that normally sperme declines, when you get older and older, matters . are you kidding? i'm sure. yeah, but it's the quality . and yeah, but it's the quality. and not the quantity. it's about numbers for me. the point is. but men in their prime, yeah.

sperme. and that's obviously, relevant temperatures relevant because temperatures are around relevant because temperatures are world. around relevant because temperatures are world. i around relevant because temperatures are world. i thought around relevant because temperatures are w possibly. yes. but, yeah, this is this is a problem, you're going to have to ice your testicles if you want to have kids, i guess. ice them. well, i'm guessing so. if this is this is the only way to have kids. >> my sperme levels are quite high. still. okay, i'm not bragging. >> it sounds like. >> it sounds like. >> sounds why had them >> sounds like why you had them tested year i do. tested for every year i do. let's on, intelligent let's move on, intelligent animals scott as animals in the male scott or as we call him, louis. animals in the male scott or as we aill him, louis. animals in the male scott or as we a lotiim, louis. animals in the male scott or as we a lot of, louis. animals in the male scott or as we a lot of people think that, >> a lot of people think that, you chimpanzees smart. you know, chimpanzees are smart. dolphins, dogs, dolphins, whales, maybe dogs, maybe cats. cats are smart. but as it turns out, they decided at the barcelona zoo, that hooved creatures are actually capable of doing complex mental math . of doing complex mental math. >> is that true? >> is that true? >> giraffes they've given giraffes can use an abacus. >> yes. >> yes. >> giraffes can count fruit and vegetables and tell you how many there are in their heads. vegetables and tell you how many the yeah, in their heads. vegetables and tell you how many the yeah, they eir heads. vegetables and tell you how many the yeah, they can't ads. you how >> yeah, they can't tell you how many there but will.

many there are, but they will. >> work out which has >> they'll work out which has got like that. >> they'll work out which has got yeah, like that. >> they'll work out which has got yeah, they ike that. >> they'll work out which has got yeah, they thumpt. >> they'll work out which has got yeah, they thump it. >> they'll work out which has got is ah, they thump it. >> they'll work out which has got is that hey thump it. >> they'll work out which has got is that right?ump it. >> is that right? >> is that right? >> they basically they're >> no. they basically they're really it's really good. they say it's because like look really good. they say it's b> i find it in your eyes. >> i find it in your eyes. >> what animals. >> what scary animals. >> what scary animals. >> when animals are >> i find it when animals are revealed be able things revealed to be able to do things like solve yes. and like solve puzzles. yes. and i think survived with us think they've survived with us ruining the planet. >> so smarter than >> they're so much smarter than we apparently . we are. well, apparently. >> dolphins. >> dolphins. >> dolphins? yeah. so they were basically in this tank. they were for every of rubbish were for every bit of rubbish they a fish. and what were for every bit of rubbish theydolphin a fish. and what were for every bit of rubbish theydolphin dida fish. and what were for every bit of rubbish theydolphin did was1. and what were for every bit of rubbish theydolphin did was hit.nd what were for every bit of rubbish theydolphin did was hit.n(piece one dolphin did was hit a piece of then it up of rubbish and then broke it up into smaller bits. what then of rubbish and then broke it up intyit.maller bits. what then of rubbish and then broke it up intyit. and er bits. what then of rubbish and then broke it up intyit. and then s. what then of rubbish and then broke it up intyit. and then s. figured then of rubbish and then broke it up intyit. and then s. figured outen do it. and then it figured out that get fish if that you would also get fish if you like, saved a gull. so it used the fish to capture used the last fish to capture a goal even fish, goal to get even more fish, and then kids. now then trained its kids. and now it's the world. it's taking over the world. >> don't find that scary >> you don't find that scary like seen planet like you've seen planet of the apes. be planet apes. it'll be planet of the dolphins . or something. dolphins. or something. >> or we see a porcupines or whatever the porcupines will be

terrifying. >> are they are they porpoises? >> are they are they porpoises? >> sorry. planet of the sheep. but, it is interesting to but, yes, it is interesting to see. basically, it's for see. basically, it's just for this propaganda this is vegetarian propaganda and dolphins and i will still eat dolphins and i will still eat dolphins and care, and giraffes. i don't care, you're bad. and giraffes. i don't care, youtheyad. and giraffes. i don't care, youthe show is nearly now >> the show is nearly over. now let's quick at let's take another quick look at thursday's pages the thursday's front pages of the daily with mps daily mail is running with mps caught honeytrap caught in naked honeytrap sixteen. is sixteen. the telegraph is running with judges to look at soft terms for deprived offenders , and the guardian has offenders, and the guardian has former supreme court add former supreme court judges add voices calls for israeli arms voices to calls for israeli arms ban.the voices to calls for israeli arms ban. the times is leading with a blood tests to help spot alzheimer's. years earlier . and alzheimer's. years earlier. and thursday's express rishi sunak is saying we're going to quit the euro court if rwanda flights are blocked. and finally, the daily looking for daily star, they're looking for excalibur. all we've got excalibur. that's all we've got time for. thanks ever so much to my guests, josh howie and scott capurro. to be back capurro. i'm going to be back tomorrow at 11:00 with n tomorrow at 11:00 with steve n allen . and if allen and frances foster. and if you're watching the 5 am. repeat, tuned, because now repeat, stay tuned, because now it's breakfast it's time for breakfast at. >> feeling inside from >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather

on gb news. >> hello again. welcome to your latest gb news weather update. well, there will be some further heavy rain first thing across southern areas, but in general thursday offers . some much drier thursday offers. some much drier weather compared to the wet weather. we've seen recently. northeastern areas have suffered the most with the rain throughout today. that rain will clear away through tonight, but the next batch . arrives into the the next batch. arrives into the southwest. we'll see two bursts of rain . this one will turn of rain. this one will turn heavy at first in the southwest, but as pushes into parts of but as it pushes into parts of northern it will northern england, it will turn a little bit dry. but most areas will outbreaks of will see some heavy outbreaks of rain further rain through the night further north and west, though, it should could see north and west, though, it sitouch could see north and west, though, it sitouch of could see north and west, though, it sitouch of frost could see north and west, though, it sitouch of frost by could see north and west, though, it sitouch of frost by tomorrowi see a touch of frost by tomorrow morning. it's the morning. but it's in the southwest tomorrow where southwest tomorrow morning where the and the heaviest rain will be, and that parts of that will push into parts of wales, midlands, into the wales, the midlands, into the southeast. the southeast. throughout the rush houn southeast. throughout the rush hour. are moving about southeast. throughout the rush h0|thursday are moving about southeast. throughout the rush h0|thursday morning,yving about southeast. throughout the rush h0|thursday morning, expect)out southeast. throughout the rush h0|thursday morning, expect some southeast. throughout the rush h0|th|travellingrning, expect some

southeast. throughout the rush h0|th|travelling conditions. :t some tricky travelling conditions. once out once that does clear out the way, a mix sunshine way, we'll see a mix of sunshine and showers many areas of and showers for many areas of england will be england and wales there will be some in some decent sunny spells in between. fairly between. we'll feel fairly pleasant in that sunshine, but further north it's to further north it's going to considerably drier day than it has been lately. we'll see highs considerably drier day than it ha around lately. we'll see highs considerably drier day than it ha around 10 sly. we'll see highs considerably drier day than it ha around 10 or. we'll see highs considerably drier day than it ha around 10 or we'll see highs considerably drier day than it ha around 10 or 11 degrees highs of around 10 or 11 degrees across it's across northwestern areas. it's still in the far still cold though, in the far north scotland, the north of scotland, and as the next batch of rain bumps into that on morning, that cold air on friday morning, there's snow there's a risk of some snow across the highlands and grampians, and we'll see outbreaks of quite heavy rain push through many northern areas throughout further throughout friday. further south, as throughout friday. further sou�*day as throughout friday. further sou�*day goes as throughout friday. further souday goes on, as throughout friday. further sou�*day goes on, but as throughout friday. further sou�*day goes on, but the as throughout friday. further sou�*day goes on, but the weekend the day goes on, but the weekend is looking unsettled and seasonably windy, but exceptionally mild. that's all for bye . for now. bye bye. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on

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