gb news. >> morning. 930 on thursday, the 4th of april. this is britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pierce and bev turner. >> are we going soft on criminals? judges are being told to consider more lenient sentences for who are from sentences for those who are from disadvantaged is it disadvantaged backgrounds. is it disgraceful, in your opinion? yes. more >> more than 600 lawyers, including three former supreme court judges, have joined calls for the uk to suspend arms sales to israel after three british aid workers were killed. so should the prime minister take their advice? >> as sunak is apparently getting tough on the echr, the prime minister threatens to quit the european court of human rights over his rwanda plans. but do you think he would?

>> another poll suggests a labour landslide. up to ii tory cabinet ministers will be wiped out at the next general election, and keir starmer's party will win more than 400 seats will be the worst defeat since before 1997 and tourists not welcome. >> that's the message that brits are seeing when they arrive in tenerife for their holiday getaway. we're going to be crossing over to the connect to the canary islands shortly. and we've got a great debate at the start of the show about men in the workplace and whether they should shut up . they should shut up. >> do you mean me? she does. i'm not going to. by the way, say nothing. >> gb views at gb news. com is the email address . we all have the email address. we all have to exist in harmony, don't we? men and women. but how do we do that the workplace? not that in the workplace? not always easy. in with always easy. get in touch with us this morning. first though, your news with your very latest news with sam

francis. >> beth. andrew, thank you very much . and good morning from the much. and good morning from the newsroom. just after 930, a first look at the headlines is more than 600 lawyers and academics have written to the prime minister warning that britain risks breaking international law by continuing to supply israel with weapons. among those who've signed the letter are three former supreme court justices, including the court's former president, lady hale. they say there's a plausible risk of genocide in gaza, according to the international court of justice. and they say that britain is now obuged and they say that britain is now obliged to suspend the sale of arms. meanwhile the united nafions arms. meanwhile the united nations has put its mission in gaza on hold while charities review their humanitarian work. there comes after seven aid workers were killed by an israeli air strike on monday. that group were part of seven from the world central kitchen organisation, whose vehicles were hit while travelling on an approved humanitarian route. among them were three british nationals john chapman, james

henderson and james kirby. the charities founder has now accused israeli forces of targeting its workers. she says systematically car by car . systematically car by car. meanwhile, the prime minister says that britain could pull out of the european court of human rights if it obstructs the government's rwanda plan. rishi sunak says controlling illegal migration is more important than membership of the echr, and he would not let what he called the foreign court interfere in sovereign matters . critics, sovereign matters. critics, though from various political corners, have criticised rishi sunak suggestion, with labour calling it nothing more than a plan to appease the right wing of his party. and british farmers are calling for a guaranteed basic income after post—brexit arrangements left many worse off. at least 100 have joined a campaign group urging the government to help cover basic costs after the loss of subsidies from the european union. and it comes as suppliers are warning of higher prices and possible empty supermarket

shelves due to a new post—brexit border charge, which will be introduced at the end of this month . that's the latest from month. that's the latest from the gb newsroom. more coming up at 10:00. in the meantime, you can sign up to gb news alerts. just scan the code there on your screen or go gb news .com/ screen or go to gb news .com/ alerts . alerts. >> all right. good morning. 934 welcome to britain's newsroom on gb news with me, bev turner and andrew pierce. >> so judges have been told to consider more lenient sentence and magistrates to for offenders from deprived difficult backgrounds. >> from the sentencing >> it comes from the sentencing council, who are responsible for advising judges and magistrates, and they talk about difficult or depnved and they talk about difficult or deprived backgrounds for personal circumstances. >> these should show the factors they say should possibly lead to a lenient, more lenient sentence. poverty, low educational attainment, experience of discrimination in school housing. but is your

background really an excuse for committing a crime? >> you feel very strongly about this, don't you ? this, don't you? >> i think it's patronising. i think it's insulting. i think about all the people who brought who are brought up in difficult circumstances with very little money, perhaps their family, they're on and they they're on benefits and they managed to stay on the straight and what say to and narrow. what does it say to them? oh, well, if the ones up them? oh, well, if the ones up the road who who are feckless and reckless can commit a crime, they'll get less of sentence they'll get less of a sentence than middle bloke. than some middle class bloke. i mean, that's outrageous. i guess the that not all the feeling is that not all people difficult people from difficult backgrounds commit crime. backgrounds will commit crime. >> i suspect that all >> no, but i suspect that all people who commit crime are from difficult backgrounds . maybe, or difficult backgrounds. maybe, or a certain type of crime. i mean, you have this distinction between breaking into a metre. >> that's going to be someone from a poor background. if it's fraud, more middle fraud, it could be more middle class, collar . but it's class, blue collar. but it's there's just too many stereotypes and think stereotypes here. and i think the judges, this sentencing council is omitting a fact which is often judges when they sentence someone they take into

account people's life chances. >> anyway. >> anyway. >> i think they do, in a way. >> i think they do, in a way. >> i think what i'd like to see is whoever is in prison, particularly, i think those from difficult backgrounds who have had traumatic childhoods , who've had traumatic childhoods, who've been born into families for whom crime is a way of life. what i want is for those people to get sorted out whilst they are in prison, and if that means a lenient , a prison, and if that means a lenient, a more lenient. so therefore the sentence doesn't necessarily have to be shorter, but i do want them to get treatment and support and education whilst they're in prison. we don't seem to be very good at that. >> we're not very good at rehabilitation. prison shouldn't just punishment . just be about punishment. >> absolutely. well, valvassori and fryer are from the and steve fryer are from the charity novo. morning, charity tempest novo. morning, gentlemen. to understand gentlemen. you to understand this better. i guess in your experience than we do. and you support ex—offenders into employment. if a criminal employment. so if a criminal from a or a wrong'un from a difficult background is looking at crime and thinking, well, i might go and smash that window

in and nick that bag out of that car, and i'm going to get a lenient sentence because i'm from a difficult background. doesit from a difficult background. does it work like that in terms of a deterrent if it's not quite that simple, but you've hit on a really point around people really good point around people coming poverty and coming from poverty and connected crime, it's connected to crime, because it's a we've worked in prisons a fact. we've worked in prisons for 30 years, both of us, and been running tempus for been running tempus nova for ten. we've across ten. so we've come across thousands people . so thousands of these people. so it we with conviction, pun we speak with conviction, no pun intended , 70% we would argue, intended, 70% we would argue, are people in prison come from well, one in fargo through the care system. have you ever have you ever considered how your life would have turned out if you'd have been in that situation? very little education, parental support education, no parental support and no love. actually and that's pretty sad. and it's a sad indictment on society . it really is. >> we're not we're not saying that that's an excuse for committing crime as such. but if you put yourself in their position, that and when steve

mentioned the care system there and that care system as it's called, includes physical and sexual abuse in a lot of the cases. a lot of the lads that we've interviewed have gone through a lot of trauma, and i and i challenge anyone to have had a childhood and been brought up into this world. having that trauma in their life and turning out normal . and then also out normal. and then also because they've been imprisoned several times . and we know this several times. and we know this for a fact, it's nearly impossible for them to get a job. so that's why we set up tempus novel in the first place. >> the first 70 people that we supported into work, which were back in 2014, were the most prolific offenders in leeds and bradford. they had over a thousand convictions between them. and after 18 months of , them. and after 18 months of, analysing the data that, that that conviction rate had reduced by, i think it was 97, it were absolutely unbelievable . so absolutely unbelievable. so there's, there's lots of people in prison who want to change, but they just haven't. there's

very little opportunities. you were right . there needs to be were right. there needs to be much more support and much more joined think ing around the joined up. think ing around the rehabilitation aspect of prisons, because i get i get that gentleman about the rehabilitation in prison. >> but my concern is you're saying to people who are living side by side, maybe on a difficult council estate, that, the ones who struggle but stick within the law , they're going to within the law, they're going to find neighbours who don't, who who break the law, they're going to be. but they're going to be given they're living in the same circumstances , but they're going circumstances, but they're going to be given a more lenient sentence. it's effectively saying crime can pay . saying crime can pay. >> no, we're not saying give lenient sentences. >> well, this is what these this is what these judges are saying. >> this is what the sentencing council saying. lenient council is saying. more lenient sentences, terms for sentences, softer terms for depnved sentences, softer terms for deprived that's quite deprived offenders. that's quite specific . specific. >> well, we're not agreeing with that. what we're saying is but more support in when they're in prison. and those people on the estates who are able to operate

what we'd call a fairly normal life, the high, it's highly likely that they haven't suffered the same trauma as those that are committing the crimes. and this is this is no, in no way are we soft on crime, by the way. >> not at all. >> not at all. >> there's certain crimes out there, that people need locking up for a long time, if not forever. so we're not soft on crime , but we've seen the real crime, but we've seen the real world behind the scenes of the people who have been in and out of prison since the 80s. the same faces. yeah. >> what what we do, we put we get those people that you're talking about, get those people that you're talking about , the ones who've talking about, the ones who've gone through the trauma and not never had a chance in life. we place them into work and support them into in that job for 12 months. so we make sure that it's not about putting them it's not just about putting them into a job, it's about keeping them in that costs us them in that job that costs us £3,000 that . the £3,000 to do that. the alternative is we let them go back to re—offending and go back to prison. and it costs the

government 46,500 pounds. now, what do you want payers? what we want is the government to fund us, which is what we've been asking now for the past 12 months. >> the reoffending rates, i think, are something like 45% within 12 months of release, and it goes up to about 60% after two years out . what is it, 3.9? two years out. what is it, 3.9? >> we've just placed our thousandth person into work , and thousandth person into work, and only 38 of those thousand have gone back into prison within two years of being released. >> that's checked on the prison system. >> and how many of those can bafic >> and how many of those can basic christian? how many of those can read and write the ones that you manage to get into work because i know a lot of young men in particular, who go into prison from deprived backgrounds, can't read. backgrounds, they can't read. and when they leave prison, they still can't read. >> well, average reading age >> well, the average reading age of in prison is 12 or of someone in prison is 12 or 13, i believe. you're 13, i believe. yeah. so you're quite problem. quite right. that is a problem. >> prisons are are doing the >> the prisons are are doing the best to be honest. they do try the best put through and the best to put them through and get at least literacy

get them to at least literacy levels and numeracy levels. one but you know, they can't capture everybody but the do do and half decent job. the ones that we place into work have got to be able to read and write to a certain level to be able to read safety because be able safety signs, because to be able to in the workplace, what, to work in the workplace, what, what do you do guys, to help them into like practically them into work, like practically and actually also emotionally. >> do you do with these >> what do you do with these guys? predominantly men i imagine to help them on that particular transition. >> we keep it simple. we work with people who want to change. we connect them to companies who want to make a difference in the community by reducing, crime , community by reducing, crime, reducing victims, putting more people work. people into work. >> make . sure they've got >> we make. sure they've got bank accounts, id, proof of national insurance number and a cv because they've got to have that to be able to work. so we help them that. we prepare help them with that. we prepare them, sort of a little of them, sort of a little bit of interview prep techniques, but that's really. and then that's about it really. and then we job. the most

we put them into job. the most important is the support, important bit is the support, the for them and the support for both them and the support for both them and the company. because without the support ex—prison support from us, ex—prison officers, the companies wouldn't be interested in this work be as interested in this work that we're doing. and taking ex—offenders on. >> i mean, we've now got a situation where the last hundred people we placed into work, 21 of them have been promoted. this is how grateful people are for the opportunity. when you've been on the scrapheap and somebody gives you a hand to help you , it's incredible how help you, it's incredible how loyal and grateful you are. we've probably all been there in different circumstances. these people have . they don't see people have. they don't see a future. and when suddenly somebody says, you know what? you're worth a chance. yeah, grab it with both hands. the retention rates the companies retention rates in the companies we're working with are much higher any agency. you'd higher than any agency. you'd work. >> e’- work. >> doing a kind 9 doing a kind of >> you're doing a kind of parenting role, aren't you, guys? when often these these these have had these people won't have had decent who've given decent parents who've ever given them of and them that sort of support and attention. there's one lad well done, lot of mps watch done, and a lot of mps watch this programme. you never know.

the future prime minister might be higher get the future prime minister might be involved.]her get them involved. >> your colleague needs to come and see us so we can educate him. well. >> andrew. yeah oh, he just pretends he's tough. he's quite soft underneath it all, really. >> we'll take you round leeds prison. >> listen, very good to talk to you guys. you're doing a great job. that's val barak and steve fryer from the charity tempest novo. >> eu- y brilliant aren't >> they're brilliant aren't they. >> they're brilliant aren't the well you need more of it. but >> well you need more of it. but you i'm great mates with you know i'm great mates with jeffrey archer, the novelist. he spent years in prison. spent two years in prison. he was shocked. how young men was shocked. how many young men in couldn't read. in that prison couldn't read. yeah. he most of his yeah. and he spent most of his time them to read. time teaching them to read. >> we got stop people >> yeah. we got to stop people going prison in the first going into prison in the first place. we're at that, place. we're terrible at that, aren't us your thoughts. >> not say because you're >> we do not say because you're from a poorer background. you're not going such a long not going to have such a long sentence. i'm afraid you don't. well, the crime is crime offending is offending. and we've treated we've all got to be treated listening guys. listening to those guys. >> them in >> actually, you want them in there longer to give more there longer to give them more education, more training, more literacy, so a literacy, etc. so maybe a shorter sentence isn't necessarily thing. necessarily the right thing. >> short sentences work,

right? >> so should men just shut up in the no, no, we should the workplace? no, no, we should do to go to a break do one. we got to go to a break to avoid offending their female colleagues be a little bit colleagues and be a little bit more mindful. going

>> now to our next debate. oh! >> now to our next debate. oh! >> shut up! you right, do men need to zip it in the workplace? >> no. they don't. >> no. they don't. >> that's what we're asking. after a mother has won an employment tribunal after being told by her male manager that she was being very emotional and tearful was pregnant. tearful when she was pregnant. >> got to debate this. >> so we've got to debate this. not to men, of course. do men to be more need to be more thoughtful in the office and not say things? our political say stupid things? our political commentator, stella tandy, thank you that and you for pronouncing that and much pronounce. paul much easier to pronounce. paul davis , let's go to you first. davis, let's go to you first. >> yeah. so i think men should not zip it up. they should just

be thoughtful as everyone else has to be thoughtful. they should have the same professional as professional standards as everyone personally, everyone else. i personally, being mediterranean woman, i being a mediterranean woman, i like people to able to like people to be able to express themselves. can, you express themselves. i can, you know, i can be quite, passionate about so i think about things myself. so i think that's i think people that's good. i think people should have, to be should be allowed to have, to be social friendly with each social and friendly with each other workplace. however other in the workplace. however they also need to have some standards . and i think there is standards. and i think there is a case that we will be talking about later today about this 37 year old woman who, after 12 years managed to get pregnant. she was trying for 12 years to get pregnant. and then when she did, she had some very disappointing behaviour from him, from her manager, which made eventually go to a made her eventually go to a tribunal by herself without legal representation . and win. legal representation. and win. which to me goes to show that one the british court system is working sometimes, sometimes, but two, there is still some way to go in terms of managers learning how to behave, basically, and learning how to

treat, particularly women who are pregnant. and when we're talking about the falling birth rates how we want to rates and how much we want to encourage women to get pregnant and have babies . well, and to have many babies. well, if you want women to do that, then pearl isn't part of the problem, that we don't have enough women in senior managerial roles and therefore they can't empathise. managerial roles and therefore the i can't empathise. managerial roles and therefore the! don'tempathise. managerial roles and therefore the! don't eventhise. managerial roles and therefore the! don't even likes. managerial roles and therefore the! don't even like working for >> i don't even like working for women. if you if pull women. women if you if you pull women, they actually prefer male bosses. don't like bosses. so women don't even like working me working for women. cry me a river. was she being emotional? maybe that's the question. maybe she was being emotional. this is what women do. they always go into a workplace then into a workplace and then they sue. sue everybody sue. they sue everybody because their hurt. like, their feelings are hurt. like, if to be in a man's if you want to be in a man's world, then be in it. you think men do you think men when they hear words they don't like, can just and get a bunch of just go sue and get a bunch of money for it? >> yes. well, yes. >> yes, yes. no. well, yes. >> well it depends. if we're in scotland, it's just become a whole easier. scotland, it's just become a wh(yeah, easier. scotland, it's just become a wh(yeah, easwait, didn't johnny >> yeah, but wait, didn't johnny depp? johnny get depp? didn't johnny depp get some money for. >> i think so, but johnny duff

got because he was falsely got money because he was falsely accused she a smear campaign. >> you can't legally, snowflake. you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't legally, you can't legally, can't legally legally, you can't legally slander right. she he won a >> that's right. she he won a court case and let's and let's be honest, should men talk in the workplace? >> women the ones that are >> women are the ones that are known talking about. that known for talking about. that doesn't work. known for talking about. that doe please work. known for talking about. that doeplease mind work. known for talking about. that doe please mind your'k. known for talking about. that doeplease mind your language. apologies. >> who is? apologies. >> oh,» is? apologies. >> oh, maybe that's why women shouldn't be talking in the workplace. >> maybe men female. i mean, >> maybe men or female. i mean, look, found that the thing is, look, i found that the thing is, if to live in world if we want to live in a world where women contribute to the professional we professional workforce and we bnng professional workforce and we bring lot of different bring a whole lot of different skills, don't we? >> we have learn to >> then we have to learn to communicate with each other. we might differently, might communicate differently, but have along in but we do have to rub along in the way because it's good the right way because it's good for everybody, right way. the right way because it's good for you ybody, right way. the right way because it's good for you ybody, i right way. the right way because it's good for you ybody, i think ht way. the right way because it's good for you ybody,i think soway. the right way because it's good for you ybody,i think so that's >> you know, i think so that's that's the problem it always that's the problem is it always defers to what women want. >> the problem. are >> that's the problem. men are always changing way they always changing the way they talk appease us. so what talk to appease us. so and what happens women care more happens is, is women care more about men more about feelings. men care more about feelings. men care more about information. about feelings. men care more about she�*rmation. about feelings. men care more about she right? n. about feelings. men care more about she right? because i've >> is she right? because i've been to employment tribunals and i've british judges i've met british judges because i've met british judges because

i a previous life i used >> so in a previous life i used to represent people in tribunals. actually, if you if you've british judges, you you've met british judges, you would know they are they are far from need there needs to be from they need there needs to be a very high standard of evidence in in the uk for this in a tribunal in the uk for this case to successful. and now case to be successful. and now this woman was representing herself against this massive international company. we're talking about a david and goliath case here, a david and goliath case here, a david and goliath for what? >> oh, she was called emotional. maybe she was being emotional. >> it wasn't just it. it was oven >> it wasn't just it. it was over, over a long period of time. oh, no discrimination. >> happened more than once. >> it happened more than once. cw >> it happened more than once. cry a river story if you want cry me a river story if you want to go to. if you want to be equal to go to. if you want to be equal, i feminist. be equal. equal, i say feminist. be equal. don't special treatment don't ask for special treatment and privilege. but we to and privilege. but we have to have babies until such time that men give birth. men can give birth. >> we have to have start >> okay, we have to have start that one. we have to have understanding and compassion. if we to carry on the human we want to carry on the human population, there be population, then there may be situations need to situations in which we need to be in the workplace. >> life is about choices and

trade offs. you cannot have it all the same time. you can't all at the same time. you can't have either. >> society cannot. on the one side, so claim that they are side, and so claim that they are worried falling birth worried about falling birth rates and that we want to have women to have more families. and we're blaming young women. we're saying, why don't young women want kids? want to have more kids? >> but you can make a child. >> but you can make a child. >> you can the choice to >> you can make the choice to get married and not work if you want. about choices and want. life is about choices and trade can't have it trade offs and you can't have it all at. >> do think women are trying >> do you think women are trying to do that? >> do you think women are trying to (theyit? >> do you think women are trying to (they want everything. >> they want everything. >> they want everything. >> yeah, they want everything at the same time. >> but men also want to be parents work. parents and work. >> i think men want to be >> yeah, i think men want to be parents than women. >> yeah, i think men want to be paractually, than women. >> yeah, i think men want to be paractually, in1an women. >> yeah, i think men want to be paractually, in 2023.»men. >> yeah, i think men want to be paractually, in 2023. oh,|. >> yeah, i think men want to be paractually, in 2023. oh, yeah. >> actually, in 2023. oh, yeah. yeah. mean, i don't yeah. look, i mean, i don't think there's any evidence. >> how lovely for them. >> well, how lovely for them. >> well, how lovely for them. >> what how many >> the evidence. what how many kids women having now? >> the evidence. what how many kid�*if women having now? >> the evidence. what how many kid�*if youromen having now? >> the evidence. what how many kid�*if you asken having now? >> the evidence. what how many kid�*if you ask less ving now? >> the evidence. what how many kid�*if you ask less than now? thousand. >> that rate is falling. >> that rate is falling. >> i've interviewed a thousand people. men want children. >> and you know why? >> and you know why? >> because of attitudes like that can't have that which tell us we can't have it all. >> because women. >> because the women. >> because the women. >> the look after >> because the women look after the kids normally.

>> look, look at >> guys look, look, look at oprah. at highly successful oprah. look at highly successful women. right. she women. oprah winfrey, right. she didn't look at didn't have children. look at kim she's been kim kardashian. she's been married which married three times, which arguably. if arguably. but if you look at if you look the hot, like the you look at the hot, like the women that are high earners, they never have it all. >> can have it all. they're >> you can have it all. they're often child free. >> you look at statistics, you will higher will see that it's a higher percentage want to percentage of women who want to have often they will have kids, and often they will want to have more kids. it's men who when they are married. >> they don't it though. >> they don't choose it though. >> they don't choose it though. >> who are happier to me. >> we're running out of time. i'm ask you a specific i'm gonna ask you a specific question. you for a question. would you work for a woman, boss? question. would you work for a wori'd|, boss? question. would you work for a wori'd rather? question. would you work for a wori'd rather not. >> i'd rather not. >> i'd rather not. >> don't i don't think she'd >> i don't i don't think she'd have you pull. would you work for boss? for a woman, boss? >> mother as well. and >> she's a mother as well. and she's amazing. my bosses. >> my fi- fi— >> i love my women bosses, too. i say, there's a little i have to say, there's a little bit understanding and bit more understanding and compassion we're trying. compassion when we're trying. not succeeding boss compassion when we're trying. not but succeeding boss compassion when we're trying. not but we're:eeding boss compassion when we're trying. not but we're trying; boss compassion when we're trying. not but we're trying to boss compassion when we're trying. not but we're trying to do boss compassion when we're trying. not but we're trying to do it)oss here, but we're trying to do it all. got a male boss. all. i have got a male boss. well, we've got several bosses, but know what? they're but do you know what? they're all and that actually, but do you know what? they're athink and that actually, but do you know what? they're athink makes1d that actually, but do you know what? they're athink makes a that actually, but do you know what? they're athink makes a difference|lly, i think makes a difference when we're about issue. we're talking about this issue. are right, ladies? are women bosses right, ladies? thank you again? >> will you come again? >> will you come again? >> debate of coui'se. >>

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>> way. >> way. >> good morning. it's 10:00 >> way. >> good morning. it's10:00 on thursday, the 4th of april. this is britain's newsroom on gb news with me, bev turner and andrew pierce . pierce. >> so, are we going to go soft on criminals? judges are being told consider more lenient told to consider more lenient sentences from sentences for people from disadvantage backgrounds. do you think it's disgraceful? i do , think it's disgraceful? i do, and sunak gets tough on the echr or willie. >> the prime minister has threatened to quit the european court of human rights over his rwanda plans. do you think he will? >> and another rishi sunak says that it >> and another rishi sunak says thatitis >> and another rishi sunak says that it is more important to stop small boats than leave the echr. but is he is that what really happened? we'll find out . really happened? we'll find out. >> turns out we've heard that before. and a labour landslide. another poll saying the tories in dire trouble. 11 cabinet ministers will be wiped out at the next general election, including chancellor, jeremy including the chancellor, jeremy hunt, party hunt, and starmer's labour party will at least 400 seats, the will win at least 400 seats, the

best result since 1906, and sewage dumping scandal, it continues. >> lib dem leader ed davey wants to clamp down on river pollution with a new blue flag status symbol. yorkshire that's been hit hard . hit hard. >> yes, that's right, far out of the ten most polluted rivers in england are here in yorkshire. i'm at the river wharfe and i'll have more for you later. >> and can you believe this? tourists not welcome. that's the message brits are seeing when they arrive in tenerife, of all places, for their holiday getaway. we're going to be crossing to canary crossing over to canary island shortly why . shortly to find out why. >> i think the theory is that when we go over there, we want burger and chips and not local delicacies, but they spend a lot of money. but yeah, we spend a lot of money.

>> economy would be on its knees with that. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> i was in lanzarote earlier this year. the canary islands, particularly winter and spring, very popular us brits particularly winter and spring, very pthey. r us brits particularly winter and spring, very pthey. get us brits particularly winter and spring, very pthey. get ilouchzs particularly winter and spring, very pthey. get ilouch this aren't they. get in touch this morning. gb views at gb news. com us know what your take com let us know what your take is all of our stories. first is on all of our stories. first though, news sam though, your news with sam francis. >> bev and andrew, thank you very much and good morning to you. leading the news at 10:00, more than 600 lawyers and academics have written to the prime minister warning that britain risks breaking international law by continuing to supply israel with weapons among those who've signed that letter are three former supreme court justices , including the court justices, including the court's former president, lady hale. they say there is a plausible risk of genocide in gaza, to according the international court of justice, and that britain is now obliged to suspend the sale of arms. shadow business secretary jonathan reynolds told gb news this morning the government this morning that the government must publish its legal advice

that it's received on the uk's arrangements with israel. >> the law of the uk is very, very clear. if there is any possibility of anything exported from the uk being involved in a serious violation of humanitarian law, it cannot be exported from the uk. so the government will have had legal advice on that . specific to the advice on that. specific to the conflict in gaza, we've asked them publish that legal them to publish that legal advice. it would be, i think, a reasonable step given what has happenedin reasonable step given what has happened in the last few days and what happened over the and what has happened over the last months clear last few months to make clear the position make the legal position and to make sure government and the legal position and to make surare government and the legal position and to make surare currentlynent and the legal position and to make surare currently complying and the legal position and to make sur are currently complying with we are currently complying with uk . uk law. >> meanwhile, the united nations has put its missions in gaza on hold, while charities are reviewing their humanitarian work there. it's after seven aid workers were killed by an israeli airstrike on monday . israeli airstrike on monday. they were part of a group from the world central kitchen organisation whose vehicles were hit while travelling on an approved humanitarian route. among them were three british

nationals john chapman, james henderson and james kirby. the charity's founder has accused israeli forces of targeting its workers systematically car by car . well, foreign editor of car. well, foreign editor of jewish news, yotam confino , told jewish news, yotam confino, told gb news a full investigation must now take place on whether this was systematic and deliberate . deliberate. >> actually going after these aid workers . i think that aid workers. i think that remains to be seen until the israel can really, present some of its investigation fully to the world. but it makes no sense for israel to target this organisation, because not only is it working closely with this organisation, it's actually helping them distribute the food that they deliver from cyprus . that they deliver from cyprus. >> here in the uk, the prime minister says britain could pull out of the european court of human rights if it obstructs the government's rwanda plan. rishi sunak says controlling illegal migration is more important than membership of the echr, and that he would not let what he's

called the foreign court interfere in sovereign matters. critics from various political corners have criticised that suggestion , with labour calling suggestion, with labour calling it nothing more than a plan to appease the right wing of the conservative party british farmers are calling for a guaranteed basic income after post—brexit arrangements left many worse off. at least 100 have joined a campaign group urging the government to help cover basic costs after the loss of subsidies from the european union. analysis last year by the organic farming group riverford found that half of britain's fruit and vegetable growers may go out of business within just a year. go out of business within just a year . it go out of business within just a year. it comes as suppliers warn of higher prices and empty supermarket shelves due to a new post—brexit border charge, which will be introduced at the end of post—brexit border charge, which will month oduced at the end of post—brexit border charge, which will month .duced at the end of post—brexit border charge, which will month . in:ed at the end of post—brexit border charge, which will month . in other the end of post—brexit border charge, which will month . in other news,1d of this month. in other news, judges have been told to consider more lenient sentences for offenders from deprived or from difficult backgrounds. the sentencing council, which sets guidelines for judges and for magistrates, has for the first time outlined mitigating factors

that it says courts should consider before handing down a sentence. those factors include poverty, low education, discrimination and insecure housing. former met police detective peter bleksley says the law should treat everyone equally . equally. >> judges take these factors into account. this is deeply insulting to anybody who was born into poverty, who was not particularly academic, who went on to make a decent living, contribute to society. we should all be judged as equals in the eyes of the law. but this just flies in the face of all that. >> and an update on the situation in taiwan. dozens of people are still missing there, and nine are known to have died after a major earthquake . rescue after a major earthquake. rescue teams are continuing to search for survivors, with more than 1000 people having suffered injuries. however emergency workers have been commended for their response to the disaster , their response to the disaster, with shelters in operation within just two hours of that major quake . and if you thought

major quake. and if you thought adjusting to daylight saving time was difficult, well, how about lunar time? the moon is to get its own time zone in an effort to provide coordinated benchmarks for spacecraft and satellites. but it's not quite as simple as readjusting your watch with the moon. differing gravitational forces affecting how time unfolds relative to how we perceive it here on earth. for those planning a trip to space, nasa is hoping to develop its new lunar time by the end of 2026. for the latest stories, do sign up to gb news alerts. just scan the code on your screen or go to gb news. com slash alerts. now though, let's get back to andrew and bev . andrew and bev. >> 1007 news britain's news when gb news with andrew pierce and bev turner. >> so you've been getting in touch with him about this, this service sentencing, prison sentencing issue and the advice to judges to give more lenient sentences who might be

sentences to people who might be from deprived backgrounds. philip that from deprived backgrounds. philjudiciary that from deprived backgrounds. philjudiciary is that from deprived backgrounds. philjudiciary is being that from deprived backgrounds. philjudiciary is being urged to the judiciary is being urged to treat some criminals with kid gloves indicator as gloves is another indicator as to the decline of the uk. paul has said a crime is a crime, no matter what background, and everyone should be treated exactly the same. i'm sick of heanng exactly the same. i'm sick of hearing well, it's because they've had a difficult childhood. of rubbish. >> agree. and mike says >> i can agree. and mike says what a shocking insult. that's my actually, to the many my point actually, to the many thousands of kids exactly thousands of kids from exactly the who don't the same backgrounds who don't commit need to give the same backgrounds who don't comm more need to give the same backgrounds who don't comm more support, need to give the same backgrounds who don't commmore support, notd to give these more support, not criminals, make a point. these more support, not criminals, make a point . we criminals, to make a point. we forget those kids who do stick within the law don't get on very well because of their educational achievement, but we're giving all the support to the ones who break the law, and then to make them then we're going to make them even them lenient even give them more lenient sentences come out sentences so they can come out and offend again. >> i but so >> i know, but he's so persuasive when hear those persuasive when you hear those two guests earlier from the charity with getting charity that work with getting prisoners back work, prisoners back into work, that people can be some, as they said, not all, but many people can be rehabilitated. they can

be helped. that's what we've got to do. >> surely we've got to make sure that when somebody goes into if it's a short sentence, maybe three weeks, what can you do with someone? they've got a criminal lose criminal record. they then lose their got one. their job if they've got one. yeah. place on yeah. or their place on a training scheme. but if someone's for in six months to a yean someone's for in six months to a year, teach them to read and write, improve their literacy skills. got a chance skills. they've got a chance of getting because the thing getting a job. because the thing is, about £10 is, they come out, got about £10 in pocket, nowhere to live in their pocket, nowhere to live . do they do? . what do they do? >> i was listening to a radio documentary the other day with somebody that went prison for somebody that went to prison for stabbing it stabbing somebody. it was a knife documentary, and knife crime documentary, and this perpetrator of this crime, who was then out, said, i preferred being inside prison because it was more it was preferable to my home life. >> it's an institution company. you get fed, you're warm . you get fed, you're warm. >> that's right. if somebody's looking after you in a way and that's the issue, we have to be making sure that people aren't ended up, particularly young men in the first place. in prison in the first place. and we just seem to have given up as an ambition. up on that as an ambition. right. we on? let's right. shall we move on? let's

move right. shall we move on? let's moyeah. so the prime minister, >> yeah. so the prime minister, have this before? have you heard this before? seems familiar to me. says seems a bit familiar to me. says britain withdraw from britain could withdraw from the european court of human rights if it obstructs the government's much vaunted plan to fly illegal migrants to rwanda . migrants to rwanda. >> well, joining us now is our political editor, christopher hope, from westminster. good morning. christopher. this couldn't little couldn't possibly be a little bit of electioneering, could it ? bit of electioneering, could it? >> haha. >> haha. >> morning, andrew. morning. well, let's look at what he said to last night on their to the sun last night on their youtube channel. said, i do youtube channel. he said, i do believe that border security and making we control making sure that we can control illegal migration is more important than membership of a foreign court, because it's fundamental to the sovereignty, our sovereignty as a country. so he was asked , what did stop the he was asked, what did stop the boats mean? why are you being so black and white? why not say, reduce the small boats crossings 7 reduce the small boats crossings ? why stop them altogether? and he leg as we say, he showed some leg as we say, in, in, in our, westminster world towards a future policy change. now, number 10, this

morning have made clear this is what they say to me. he's saying that if it came to it and the echr was blocking the rwanda bill when it becomes law on april the 18th as planned, we would consider leaving . yes. so would consider leaving. yes. so at least there's two conditional clauses in there. andrew and bev, before we get anywhere near leaving the echr , the strasbourg leaving the echr, the strasbourg court, which of course has has stopped and frustrated attempts to send people arriving here legally to rwanda as a way of deterring future crossings. jonathan gullace , who's the jonathan gullace, who's the party's new deputy chairman. he's been made very clear what he thinks the pm means. he's said that britain will quit the echr if that's what it takes to stop the small boats. that i am not entirely sure that is how firm he was. being the party's left is quite quiet. it's easter week right now. no one's in parliament. they aren't yet properly reacting. i think this is a bit of managing , some is a bit of managing, some difficult questioning to the sun last night. we shouldn't forget

ehhen >> chris, should we remind people that there was a plane loaded up with, illegal migrants on runway ready to go to on the runway ready to go to rwanda? and it was an anonymous judge from the european court that said it was against european court law. and the flight was blocked. we didn't even know. and we still don't. the identity of that judge or even one of the 42 or even what which one of the 42 or 43 countries in the european court judge came from ? court that judge came from? >> he does. and that's what huns >> he does. and that's what hurts the government so much. and that's why for him, it's an issue of sovereignty, many of us, many of those people who voted, 17.4 million people voted to leave the eu in 2016. the idea was to get back control of our borders and our laws. well, if you've got a foreign court, as would describe it, the pm as he would describe it, the pm saying, we can't send people on on planes out of this country if they arrive illegally, that they arrive here illegally, that is bossed around by is us being bossed around by someone not a court in someone who is not a court in the and why he's the uk. and that's why he's saying and that battle might saying it. and that battle might well we could well well take place. we could well see the back end of this month. i expect maybe early may to be

pockmarked with legal battles , pockmarked with legal battles, as every single person of the 150 or so given letters to leave the leave the uk by a plane to rwanda after we expect the bill to become law on april the 18th. after that moment, there will be lots of court battles and we might see the echr stepping in again. and at that point, these quotes from the pm last night might be replayed to him. but as i say, there is some wriggle room i think there's lots of ifs there in what he's saying. number 10 is making clear today. >> it would be >> well, i think it would be very if you did it. chris >> yeah, i think that's right. i think i think i can see, this almost it's the unfinished business, i think from the brexit battles to try and get back control of how we make our laws in this country and stop courts in strasbourg dictating how we do things. but leaving the echr is a massive moment. it makes it much harder to try and dictate to china and other countries on human rights matters. if we've left this court and defenders of it say, well, only russia's left it in

other countries with questionable human rights records , so do we want to align records, so do we want to align ourselves with them? yes, it might work on one narrow issue of small boats, but the bigger picture is what worries. i think many in government want many people in government want a solution, chris. >> of course, they just ignore the ruling from the court because france does because that's what france does regularly. what countries regularly. that's what countries in have for years. in the eu have done for years. just ignore just completely ignore the rulings, fine, rulings, say that's fine, but we're deporting them we're we're deporting them anyway. don't have to anyway. then they don't have to leave. that's and that's leave. and that's and that's right. >> part f“ right. >> part the problem, of >> and part of the problem, of course, that we do like course, is that we, we do like we up to things and then we do sign up to things and then we do sign up to things and then we obey them to the letter we do. that's part of the do. and that's part of the problem, i think, with being part eu we left, part of the eu before we left, we tend to go to we've obeyed every single directive from brussels . in fact, we gold brussels. in fact, we gold plated many of them in whitehall. and that's what was so looking at other so frustrating looking at other countries eu bloc. they countries in eu, eu bloc. they weren't as exacting as we weren't being as exacting as we weren't being as exacting as we were and saying we were in applying and saying we would do what we're told to do by the, by brussels and strasbourg. >> okay. all right. thank you chris, chris, for hope there in

our studio. up next, our westminster studio. up next, thousands are set to thousands of brits are set to receive blood tests to detect alzheimer's in a new trial. would you want to know if you were going to get dementia? i wouldn't want to know. >> i'm not sure i would . my dad >> i'm not sure i would. my dad had alzheimer's, dementia and it's awful and the i if it's pretty awful and the i if i thought that's going to come my way the next few years, way in the next few years, i think i'd rather just get on think i'd ratherjust get on with life. with my life. >> think so. let us know >> yeah, i think so. let us know what think. what you think. vaiews@gbnews.com. don't go anywhere though. this is britain's

gb news. >> 11. no. gb news. >>11. no. it isn't. it's ten. 18. >> wishing the day away on gb news with andrew bev turner malone is here. >> carole malone, writer and broadcaster and author. nichi hodgson. carol you've got a story in the front page of the daily mail. because nicky's got a little. >> i feel i have very little to

say on this story, because i think nicky's going to shock the nafion think nicky's going to shock the nation 3.5 seconds. nation about 3.5 seconds. >> i will say this is >> but i will just say this is a story on the front page of the mail, and it's saying that at least dozen and their least a dozen mps and their staff political journalists staff and political journalists have we have been targeted in what we think sinister cyber honey have been targeted in what we thiniscam.;inister cyber honey have been targeted in what we thiniscam. now,er cyber honey have been targeted in what we thiniscam. now, i cyber honey have been targeted in what we thiniscam. now, i don't honey have been targeted in what we thiniscam. now, i don't eveny trap scam. now, i don't even know what that means. >> got tell you, don't know what that means. >> know tell you, don't know what that means. >> know what ll you, don't know what that means. >> know what it you, don't know what that means. >> know what it means. ion't know what that means. >> know what it means. yeah it even know what it means. yeah it means nicky explained if means that, nicky explained if i've this right wrong. i've got this right or wrong. but basically somebody masquerading probably as some 24 year potty an email masquerading probably as some 24 ye mps potty an email masquerading probably as some 24 ye mps saying, an email masquerading probably as some 24 ye mps saying, oh, an email masquerading probably as some 24 ye mps saying, oh, i'm an email masquerading probably as some 24 ye mps saying, oh, i'm a bigmail masquerading probably as some 24 ye mps saying, oh, i'm a big fan. to mps saying, oh, i'm a big fan of yours love what you of yours and i love what you did on this occasion. they've picked a to make it a few salient facts to make it plausible, then they send a plausible, and then they send a photo. send a photo. photo. i'll send you a photo. and these idiotic mps and some of these idiotic mps have photos back naked. >> i goodness me, because. >> i mean, goodness me, because. >> i mean, goodness me, because. >> because number of mps >> so because the number of mps who've out thinking who've been caught out thinking this old ut finds this 24 year old ut finds this 72 old mp . 72 year old mp. >> if that's the problem, if you're that stupid, you really shouldn't be representing. >> have you not been to parliament? >> navalny ipp fi harrison i mean crikey malone. >> go on nicky, you've got a little bit of experience in this

area. >> well, i was going to say is this story's ridiculous. this is not the threat. it's not the people trying to entrap mps. it's mps doing the dirty with other people in parliament, etc. and reason say this is and the reason i can say this is because first hand because i've got first hand knowledge. fling with knowledge. i had a fling with the still sitting the tory mp, who's still sitting many when was many years ago when i was single. don't know if he was single. i don't know if he was actually, but he invited me to portcullis house to the tea room for cup of that's what i for a cup of tea. that's what i really you really really did think. you really thought working. we thought i met him working. we worked . we worked a show worked. we worked on a show together, i just thought, oh, worked. we worked on a show togjust r, i just thought, oh, worked. we worked on a show togjust keepi just thought, oh, worked. we worked on a show togjust keep talkingought, oh, worked. we worked on a show togjust keep talking about oh, politics. >> be honest here. >> be honest here. >> think you were going >> did you think you were going for tea or did you? >> must got an idea >> you must have got an idea that. >> i swear to god, i've never been so shocked in my life. i'm not easy to shock because i'm an ex dominatrix. people have shocked me in other ways. >> he constantly >> what did was he constantly not his? not talking about his? >> yes, was instantly talking >> yes, he was instantly talking dirty me the the tea dirty to me in the in the tea room parliament. there's room in parliament. there's everybody around everybody else sitting around and to sink into and i just wanted to sink into the and then was like, the chair. and then i was like, well, hang maybe this could well, hang on, maybe this could be reasonably hanson >> why did reasonably hanson slap when he doing slap his chops when he was doing that? found attractive. it

>> she found him attractive. it was kind of funny. >> and i was like, well, this will a good story at some point. >> as asperger explained, she's an ex. >> t- t tricks. nothing >> dominic tricks. nothing scares >> dominic tricks. nothing sca is >> dominic tricks. nothing scai mean, i like, >> i mean, i like, i like, i like cheap thrill. like a cheap thrill. >> so we went to his >> anyway, so we went up to his office. was the afternoon. office. it was the afternoon. everybody's still working. >> same day. >> same day. >> that's >> yeah, that's how he started. >> yeah, that's how he started. >> care, was a single >> i don't care, i was a single girl in london. i could what girl in london. i could do what i want anyway, so we had sex on his sofa. >> we naming this no. >> are we naming this guy? no. >> are we naming this guy? no. >> mean, can find out who >> i mean, you can find out who it is, but he's well known, so the day you went the same day you went to. >> you went to office and >> you went to his office and had on his sofa. yeah. had sex on his sofa. yeah. >> and floor, actually. but >> and the floor, actually. but the horribly the carpets are horribly scratchy, don't scratchy, right? i don't recommend scratchy, right? i don't recomme and then. scratchy, right? i don't rec> yeah, but you didn't even get a nice lavish dinner on the terrace. >> i didn't want a dinner with

him. he's not that interesting. >> cab even. >> or a cab home even. >> oh, yes. a cab would be nice. i mean, i saw him a couple more >> oh, yes. a cab would be nice. i mear he saw him a couple more >> oh, yes. a cab would be nice. i mear he saw itexta couple more >> oh, yes. a cab would be nice. i mear he saw itexta coeverynore times. he still text me every now have a now and again asking to have a coffee. guess moral, the coffee. i guess the moral, the moral story is that these moral to the story is that these often men weak willed, often these men are weak willed, promiscuous, often these men are weak willed, promisand s, often these men are weak willed, promisand exploit their easily. and exploit their position and exploit their position. he very position. he knew he knew very well position. he knew he knew very weldid feel exploited or did >> did you feel exploited or did you because, mean, don't >> because, i mean, you don't sound sounds sound like i think it sounds mutually exploitative. perhaps because you've written about it. yes, about it. because you've written about it. yes, thing about it. because you've written about it. yes, thing annoyed|t it. because you've written about it. yes, thing annoyed me is the thing that annoyed me is that actually to a that he actually said to me a few months later, well, i need a date the buckingham palace date for the buckingham palace garden party, but i couldn't possibly and i so possibly take you. and i was so offended. why offended. and that's why that's the outed him. the reason i've outed him. i wouldn't otherwise. but the wouldn't do otherwise. but the thing perfectly thing is, i'm perfectly respectable. nice respectable. i can wear a nice frock thank respectable. i can wear a nice frockbecause thank respectable. i can wear a nice frockbecause was thank respectable. i can wear a nice frockbecause was obviously you. because he was obviously he was like, was embarrassed. he's like, oh, you about you write about sex for a living. it's like you're one living. it's like you're the one that to a shag in that wanted to have a shag in parliament. . apologies parliament. oh, sorry. apologies for again. for the language again. >> watching home >> if anybody's watching at home and children, that's and had any children, that's two. managed two. swear words we managed to drop morning. drop this morning. i'm very sorry offensive to sorry if that was offensive to you, both quite you, i we're both quite speechless. buttoned you, i we're both quite speyandrew. buttoned up, andrew. >> and i, we're very old fashioned. >> you know, i was brought up by my shouldn't my parents. said you shouldn't even on first

even have a kiss on the first day, alone have two. day, let alone have two. >> it wasn't a day. >> it wasn't a day. >> wasn't? didn't it was >> it wasn't a day. >.date.;n't? didn't it was >> it wasn't a day. >.date.;n"wasdidn't it was >> it wasn't a day. >.date.;n"was an1't it was >> it wasn't a day. >.date.;n"was an opportunity,as guess. >> guess end of the >> i guess at the end of the day, wasn't exploiting you. day, he wasn't exploiting you. you exploiting you were exploiting him. well, he exploitative he was mutually exploitative because you kind knew you because you kind of knew you were write about it, were going to write about it, i'm and when he turned i'm guessing, and when he turned out to be such an idiot, i mean, you definitely. yeah. you were definitely. yeah. >> mean, he's hung himself by >> i mean, he's hung himself by saying. >> i mean, he's hung himself by sayand you said >> and did you you just said before wrote before you wrote about you wrote about yeah. about sex for a living. yeah. and that. yeah but and he knew that. yeah but that's not. >> that doesn't mean i'm for >> that doesn't mean i'm up for it, it just means that it, does it? it just means that that's professional work that that's my professional work that day. point out day. i don't want to point out the clearly the obvious, but you clearly were since you were that day. but since you subsequently have named this person in public, although we're not show today, not doing it on the show today, what reaction you what was his reaction to you then? >> reaction. then? >> he reaction. then? >> he just tion. then? >> he just pretends that everything's, you know, fine. it's don't know. everything's, you know, fine. it's just don't know. everything's, you know, fine. it's just not don't know. everything's, you know, fine. it's just not reacting.»n't know. he's just not reacting. >> and of course, nothing happened is happened to him either, which is astonishing. happened to him either, which is astonishastonishing. >> it is astonishing. >> he'd be. >> he'd be. >> yeah, because i'm sure, >> well, yeah, because i'm sure, sergeant, the rules of the sergeant arms in parliament, sergeant, the rules of the sergcan't arms in parliament, sergeant, the rules of the sergcan't edoingiparliament, sergeant, the rules of the sergcan't edoingiparisortant, sergeant, the rules of the sergcan't edoingi par|sort of, thing. >> so i bet they don't. >> so i bet they don't. >> but what if somebody had walked into his office, his secretary, his. >> i mean, i think he locked the doonl >> i mean, i think he locked the door. i wasn't really paying

attention . attention by that. >> i guess the point for this story today if it does story today is if it does transpire these have transpire that these mps have sent or had what sent naked pictures or had what might deemed inappropriate might be deemed inappropriate communications with these cyber spies, what happens to them? >> , they deserve to be. i >> well, they deserve to be. i would think they deserve to be publicly exposed for doing that. not necessarily because of the nude picture, because of their stupidity in their in their bad judgement. why would you ever do that? >> because they're easily flattered. >> yes they are, but knowing you're easily flattered is one thing. but you know, all of us can be flattered, you can be easily flattered, you know? if all of us know? you know, if all of us were, especially nicky, if we got naked photograph of, say , got a naked photograph of, say, david phone, you david gandy on the phone, you might , he's might respond, he's a supermodel. he's a she doesn't mean she doesn't mean the a&e just to be clear. no, not that that's although mahatma, although he sleep naked although he did sleep with naked women resolve . but women to prove his resolve. but anyway, that's by the book, yeah. you might send one back on the basis that he's to die for. but but most mps would know that this they have and they but but most mps would know that this know' have and they but but most mps would know that this know especially they but but most mps would know that this know especially that their would know especially that their

constituents would be horrified at the thought of them having sex and wasting time in parliament. >> there was an essex mp. i'm not going to name him because it's long gone now. but he waited years become waited years to become a minister. gets the call. minister. finally gets the call. he's to be a minister. he's promoted to be a minister. he's promoted to be a minister. he's a few drinks, he's he's he's had a few drinks, he's he's in his office and he's getting texts a 23 year old blonde, texts from a 23 year old blonde, sends photographs, sends lots of photographs, encourages him to send photographs of his manhood. >> my word. >> oh my word. >> oh my word. >> and he was one of the shortest lived ministers in political history. and he waited all years the job. all those years to get the job. >> i mean, he was he didn't occur to him that the promotion that day and the photograph that the was entrapment . it the entrap it was entrapment. it was entrapment. >> coincidence. >> coincidence. >> power goes to >> this is the power goes to their heads. and i do think there was an element of guy there was an element of the guy that i was i think he that i was with. i think he wanted get caught. he wanted wanted to get caught. he wanted to take it right up to the line where his. there was of where his. there was a kind of danger there, because creates danger there, because it creates a friction people. matt a friction for people. matt hancock yes, hancock in lockdown. yes, absolutely. it's clearly no consequences absolutely. it's clearly no conseq nothing . >> no nothing. >> no nothing. >> well kind of happened right.

>> well kind of happened right. >> there wasn't finished his divorce. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> yes he went a lot of money. lots of money. yeah and he lost his his government job and all the it. and quite the rest of it. and quite rightly he did. and that's what should happen, know, you should happen, you know, if you do yeah there should do that stuff. yeah there should be and they should do that stuff. yeah there should be what and they should do that stuff. yeah there should be what that and they should do that stuff. yeah there should be what that consequence hould do that stuff. yeah there should be what that consequence isuld know what that consequence is and house and still sat there in the house of commons, he. of commons, wasn't he. >> yes, still is still there. >> yes, he still is still there. >> yes, he still is still there. >> there. >> yes, he still is still there. >> he's there. >> yes, he still is still there. >> he's standingz. >> yes, he still is still there. >> he's standing down the >> he's standing down at the election. >> he's standing down at the electmean, guess guess what he >> i mean, i guess guess what he said was i'm in love with, this woman, terrible, terrible lie. >> he lost the whip over >> but he lost the whip over something with something else wasn't to do with his shenanigans. lost his sexual shenanigans. he lost his sexual shenanigans. he lost his job. his sexual shenanigans. he lost his didn't job. his sexual shenanigans. he lost his didn't he job. his sexual shenanigans. he lost his didn't he getb. his sexual shenanigans. he lost his didn't he get accused of, >> didn't he get accused of, something or other by, i can't remember. it wasn't bullying. what feeling a little queasy >> i'm feeling a little queasy now, right? >> i'm feeling a little queasy novcan right? >> i'm feeling a little queasy novcan we �*ight? >> i'm feeling a little queasy novcan we move on? >> can we move on? >> i am, because i know exactly who mp and i have who the mp is. and i just have to i don't to say, nicky, i don't share your taste. >> don't know who it is, >> well, i don't know who it is, but i will be googling straight after. >> right? can we talk about this blood you blood test to determine if you are prone to having alzheimer's? carol, would you want to know ? carol, would you want to know? >> this is what i was when i was reading this. i was thinking, okay, i'm not sure i would, because they tell me that

okay, i'm not sure i would, be! ause they tell me that okay, i'm not sure i would, be! take they tell me that okay, i'm not sure i would, be! take the they tell me that okay, i'm not sure i would, be! take the bloodey tell me that okay, i'm not sure i would, be! take the blood testll me that okay, i'm not sure i would, be! take the blood test early,that if i take the blood test early, there's to give that's there's a drug to give me that's going yeah, i don't going to stop it. yeah, i don't think want to know or to slow think i want to know or to slow it, even i, i think it, but even that i, i think there's to be cure there's going to be a cure for alzheimer's everything alzheimer's and everything i read that next read saying that in the next five, ten years there's going to be but but be something there. but but unless me unless they can give me something will something because all i will then every you know, we all then do every you know, we all have little forgetful. >> that's right. >> elm- >> you're going to get it started we're think started and we're going to think this it's coming, it's coming. >> and so every every hour >> and so every day, every hour of time you of every day, every time you forget you're going of every day, every time you forgetthinking you're going of every day, every time you forgetthinking this'ou're going of every day, every time you forgetthinking this is|'re going of every day, every time you forgetthinking this is it. going of every day, every time you forgetthinking this is it. soing to be thinking this is it. so no, don't really know no, i don't really want to know unless they can cure me. >> i think would keep me >> i think it would keep me awake at night. >> think it would. how >> well, i think it would. how about you? >> yeah. i mean, >> that would. yeah. i mean, it's because, it's interesting because, i mean, new it's interesting because, i mean lecanemab, new it's interesting because, i mean lecanemab, that's new it's interesting because, i mean lecanemab, that's been drug, lecanemab, that's been devised under devised now hasn't that under that decline, but that slows down the decline, but nothing it. again, nothing can stop it. so again, i mean, it gives you more time to prepare for like an unpleasant end . mean, gives your end. i mean, it gives your family time to prepare, but family more time to prepare, but also know, where's the money also you know, where's the money coming blood coming from to do the blood test, where's the test, but also, where's the money coming from care for money coming from to care for everybody the thing is, everybody if we. the thing is, it's presumably, they can slow >> presumably, if they can slow it, because then >> presumably, if they can slow it, don't because then >> presumably, if they can slow

it, don't the ause then >> presumably, if they can slow it, don't the care then >> presumably, if they can slow it, don't the care costs . you don't have the care costs. yeah, but it's interesting. there this week. there was a story this week. i don't know saw but don't know if you saw it, but this drug ozempic. this the slimming drug ozempic. they they're also saying that could slow memory loss as well. that's so if that's the case i mean shall fine. mean you know i shall be fine. yeah. done yeah. i've done it. >> well, been you take >> well, you've been you take about a day. don't you know. >> it's shows much he knows . >> it's shows how much he knows. it's, injection once a it's, it's an injection once a week. but i mean , wouldn't week. yeah. but i mean, wouldn't that be fantastic if that was week. yeah. but i mean, wouldn't thatcase.1ntastic if that was week. yeah. but i mean, wouldn't thatcase. yeah. c if that was week. yeah. but i mean, wouldn't thatcase. yeah. of: that was week. yeah. but i mean, wouldn't thatcase. yeah. of course 'as week. yeah. but i mean, wouldn't thatcase. yeah. of course you're the case. yeah. of course you're killing two birds with one. >> of >> well, i guess it's a lack of inflammation, yeah, >> well, i guess it's a lack of inflealzheimer's yeah, >> well, i guess it's a lack of inflealzheimer's is yeah, >> well, i guess it's a lack of inflealzheimer's is an yeah, and alzheimer's is an inflammatory . so and alzheimer's is an inflammatory. so i guess if you're taking away internal inflammation a less inflammation from being a less of you to love. >> well, know, i mean, it's >> well, you know, i mean, it's true , because the info i hadn't true, because the info i hadn't thought the thought about that the inflammation matter inflammation thing does matter inflammation thing does matter in your joints your back and in your joints and your back and everything don't have everything because i don't have that anymore. yeah. oh, interesting. yeah. okay. >> ask you >> and can i just ask you because people be because people will be interested thing. interested in the olympic thing. you've good, you've found it very good, haven't you . haven't you. >> have, i mean yeah, i >> yeah i have, i mean yeah, i mean i've. >> stone >> how many stone have you lost? >> how many stone have you lost? >> stones. >> you don't stones. >> you don't stones. >> four stones in >> yeah. yeah four stones in a yeah >> yeah. yeah four stones in a yea but i've >> yeah. yeah four stones in a yeabut i've seen >> yeah. yeah four stones in a yea but i've seen you. >> but malone, i've seen you. when celebrity club. when you did celebrity fit club. yes. slimmer than you yes. you were slimmer than you are now. are how. >> p-

p— >> no, i was similar. yeah, i was about the same. >> and you put it back on. if you came off this drug, it you came off this drug, does it go back on? >> well, it doesn't. what >> well, no it doesn't. what the. if back the. it does. if you go back to eating ate but eating what you ate before, but hopefully i hopefully you've learned and i have to. i still have have to. i mean, i still have cakes sweets and stuff, but cakes and sweets and stuff, but i many to have. i mean, i know how many to have. i mean, we've had half a pastry we've just had half a pastry outside, only half of one, as outside, so only half of one, as we everything. so we do everything. exactly. so i feel a mile away, but feel half a mile away, but you know, you put know, so yes, you will put weight back you go back to weight back on if you go back to eating the way you did before, but don't. yeah, right. >> the only concern i have is somebody a somebody that had anorexia as a teenager potential for teenager is the potential for misuse by people that want to lose much weight, the lose too much weight, and the fact it will by fact that it will be sold by drug dealers sell drug dealers who sell prescription it's prescription drugs. no, it's hard to that. hard to do that. >> you can't ozempic in that >> you can't get ozempic in that way moment and not yet. way at the moment and not yet. >> but will able to. >> but you will be able to. >> but you will be able to. >> don't know how >> well, i don't know how they'll it. i just don't they'll get it. i just don't know how get it is a know how they'll get it. it is a prescription you prescription drug only, so you canit's what it is. >> it's what it is. >> it's what it is. >> this is a thing. there's >> but this is a thing. there's a new wave of drug dealers that only meds now. a new wave of drug dealers that only and meds now. a new wave of drug dealers that only and they meds now. a new wave of drug dealers that only and they buy meds now. a new wave of drug dealers that only and they buy me(from n. yeah, and they buy them from pharmacies and from people who kind wrong thing in hospitals. >> it could be a dodgy. >> it could be a dodgy.

>> it could be a dodgy. >> it could be dodgy. exactly. >> it could be dodgy. exactly. >> well, say two people >> well, let's say two people right buy off right now don't buy it off anyone it's anyone that don't get it if it's not if it's not not a doctor and if it's not from that actually from a company that actually sells it. yeah. >> real harm. yes. >> and you have to carefully >> and you have to be carefully monitored, don't you, for side effects and blood pressure. >> presumably there are some side absolutely. side effects. absolutely. there are are they. are some side effects. are they. well, a bit nauseous, well, it can be a bit nauseous, a headachy, tired, but a bit headachy, a bit tired, but they all irritating, they all go irritating, irritating, , irritating. >> ask husband, ask your >> ask your husband, ask your husband. watching? >> ask your husband, ask your husi and. watching? >> ask your husband, ask your husi think watching? >> ask your husband, ask your husi think he watching? >> ask your husband, ask your husi think he said.ratching? >> ask your husband, ask your husi think he said. hehing? >> ask your husband, ask your husi think he said. he might say >> i think he said. he might say tune in here for diet, health and fitness advice. >> probably. nikki would recommend a bit of sexercise. well, obviously we can't do that right. >> still to come. >> still to come. >> which county has the worst rivers the uk for sewage? rivers in the uk for sewage? we're going to reveal all. don't go first, your go anywhere. first, your morning's sam . morning's news with sam. >> very good morning from the newsroom. just coming up to 1031, a recap of the headlines this hour , more than 600 lawyers this hour, more than 600 lawyers and academics have written to the prime minister warning that britain risks breaking

international law by continuing to supply israel with weapons among those who've signed the letter are three former supreme court justices, including the court's former president, lady hale . they say there's hale. they say there's a plausible risk of genocide in gaza. plausible risk of genocide in gaza . according to the gaza. according to the international court of justice and the britain is now obliged to suspend the sale of arms . to suspend the sale of arms. meanwhile, the united nations has put its missions in gaza on hold while charities review their work there. their humanitarian work there. it's after seven aid workers were killed by an israeli air strike on monday. they were part of a group of world kitchen centric world central kitchen organisation workers whose vehicle were hit while travelling on an approved humanitarian route. among them were three british nationals john chapman, james henderson and james kirby. the charity's founder has accused israeli forces of targeting its workers. he says systematically car by car . the prime he says systematically car by car. the prime minister he says systematically car by car . the prime minister says car. the prime minister says britain could pull out of the

european court of human rights if it obstructs the government's rwanda plan . rishi sunak says rwanda plan. rishi sunak says controlling illegal migration is more important than membership of the echr and he would not let what he's called the foreign court interfere in sovereign matters, and british farmers are calling for a guaranteed basic income after post—brexit arrangements left many worse off. at least 100 have joined a campaign group urging the government to help cover basic costs after the loss of subsidies from the european union. it comes as suppliers warn of higher prices and possible empty supermarket shelves due to new post—brexit border charges, which will be introduced at the end of this month . that's the latest from month. that's the latest from the newsroom for now to keep across the latest and breaking stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the code on your screen, or go to gbnews.com slash alerts .

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gb news. what comes to mind when you think of yorkshire ? think of yorkshire? >> the dales? >> the dales? >> yeah. yorkshire tea. my favourite yorkshire puddings. and a great accent. absolutely >> now god's own country is famous, i'm sad to say, for another reason. it has four of the dirtiest rivers in england. >> so joining us now is our yorkshire and humber reporter , yorkshire and humber reporter, and an owner of one of those fabulous accents, anna riley, who is at the river wharfe, which has more than 20,000 hours of spillages last year. anna, what what can you see when you're there? does it look dirty ? >> 7- >> good ? >> good morning 7 >> good morning to you both. well, i can show you, here is some river water that i got earlier. i'll just show you against this white background here you can see, brown discolouration , which, you know, discolouration, which, you know, you can see in river water, i'm not going to drink it, but i can't see too much floating around in there. but it just shows you you don't exactly know

what is in the water. as you've said, that those figures there, four out of ten of the most polluted rivers filled with sewage, according to the liberal democrat . it's that's their democrat. it's that's their figures that have come out today and the problems that this water can cause for swimmers here at the river wharfe. i'm here in wetherby and people swim here, they paddle, they fish. but if they're taking in contaminate sewage water whilst they're swimming, that can cause a lot of problems. it can cause stomach bugs , diarrhoea, stomach bugs, diarrhoea, vomiting. it can be quite serious . it can also cause eye serious. it can also cause eye infections, ear infections , infections, ear infections, respiratory infections. and that's why the lib dems today are visiting yorkshire and their leader , ed davey is calling for leader, ed davey is calling for a blue flag status to protect certain rivers. so swimmers know when they go into these rivers that they will be free from sewage and companies that are found to be polluting these blue

flag rivers will be fined. given punitive fines for it. as you've mentioned , that that list there mentioned, that that list there of the river wharfe, it's the river calder in yorkshire that is the most polluted out of that top ten list there. they've got a 33,000 hours of spillages amounting to 44,200 spills last year. amounting to 44,200 spills last year . and those figures also year. and those figures also come off the back of figures being released by the environment agency , showing that environment agency, showing that the number of the amount of sewage, water more than doubled in 2023 last year from the year before. so it's certainly something that's got a lot of people talking and second on the list is the river avon and third on the list, the river severn. so that's what the lib dems are calling for. the government say that they are doing more, and also the body water uk say that they want to make more investment into our victorian sewage system, which is quite

antiquated to do updates. they say though, that that will cost customers an extra £156 per year on their water bill. so that's perhaps a question for our viewers and listeners. would people be willing to pay that amount for these upgrades ? but amount for these upgrades? but companies like yorkshire water, who responsible for the who are responsible for the spillages here, they say that it's the amount of heavy rainfall that's caused that overflow of sewage into rivers, causing that contamination . causing that contamination. that's something that these companies are allowed to do when there's periods of high rainfall. they are allowed to overflow into rivers and seas to get rid of that waste water. it does become illegal when they're doing that during dry spells . doing that during dry spells. but yorkshire water say that they've been putting a lot of investment into their water system by april next year, they'll have invested £180 million in improving their systems to try and reduce that amount of sewage overflowing. and they've also said that that high amount of sewage being

released last year was due to a large amount of rainfall, and those 11 named storms that caused that overflow of sewage into the rivers. >> okay. thank you. anna. anna riley there. it's a lovely day outside. i have to say, i'd love to be in yorkshire today and i like a bit of outdoor swimming, but say that puts me off. >> outrageous that the water company is to the company is going to pass the cost of cleaning up that river onto the customers. when they pay onto the customers. when they pay millions pounds pay millions of pounds to shareholders and millions of poundsin shareholders and millions of pounds in bonuses to the bosses of those companies. it's a disgrace . disgrace. >> i think it's very clever of ed davey, though, do as ed davey, though, to do this as a electioneering because a electioneering issue, because people do feel really, really strongly people do feel really, really strongljthat whole privatisation >> it's that whole privatisation model hasn't worked the model just hasn't worked in the last years. model just hasn't worked in the lastnot years. model just hasn't worked in the lastnot atzars. model just hasn't worked in the lastnot at all. well, it's worth model just hasn't worked in the leview. at all. well, it's worth model just hasn't worked in the leview. atshareholdert's worth model just hasn't worked in the leview. atshareholder and orth model just hasn't worked in the leview. atshareholder and you've a view. a shareholder and you've drawn you've a view. a shareholder and you've drawrgetting you've a view. a shareholder and you've drawrgetting in you've a view. a shareholder and you've drawrgetting in touch you've a view. a shareholder and you've drawrgetting in touch at you've a view. a shareholder and you've drawrgetting in touch at homer've been getting in touch at home about this sentencing situation, about the fact that the judiciary advised judiciary is being advised to give lenient to give more lenient sentences to people be from people who might be from difficult backgrounds. and david said is a ludicrous idea. said it is a ludicrous idea. it's discriminating against the general this general public. it's sad in this day age that anyone is day and age that anyone is illiterate. when

illiterate. maria has said. when these young offenders complete their sentence, put them in the army two years to learn army for two years to learn discipline a trade . i kind discipline and a trade. i kind of like that idea. >> would you remember we had david on here before the david davis on here before the tory suggested tory mp, who suggested massively expanding reserve force expanding the reserve force reserve. so you effectively you go into the every weekend . go into the army every weekend. yeah, very good idea. >> different of >> james says different types of crime committed by different crime are committed by different social exist social groups. criminals exist in society . and in all levels of society. and tom says if judges are going to give out lenient sentences to convicts they're more to convicts, they're more likely to offend, only offend, knowing they will only get slap on the wrist. the get a slap on the wrist. the victims of these crimes deserve justice, as well, mel, good morning. mel says rather than reducing sentences if we believe in prison is about rehabilitation , then prisoners rehabilitation, then prisoners should not be released until they can. evidence rehabilitation. that would be great, wouldn't an ideal great, wouldn't it? in an ideal world, they might be imprisoned for a very long time. yeah. i'm sure, and how do you really tell prison officers we've got enough prisons? though basic prisons? literacy, though basic literacy to be the key, literacy has got to be the key, and also this echr issue, which

is sunak saying that he would be prepared to pull out of the european court of human rights, european court of human rights, european convention. and peter says courage, says rishi sunak has no courage, gravitas, and totally conscience and is totally useless . you like him then? useless. you like him then? peter, tell us what you really think. peter. so he would not leave deborah says leave the echr. deborah says this not about sending this is not about sending migrants home. this is another way our human way of taking more of our human rights away. sharon says rights away. and sharon says regardless of sunak electioneering, if he gets rid of the echr that would be a win. the echr have no interest in the uk having sovereignty of its laws and borders. get rid asap. it's for purpose. it's not fit for purpose. there's no starmer ward there's no chance starmer ward is absolutely not. no. he'll >> no absolutely not. no. he'll warmly embrace it. i'm afraid with absolutely. i mean, be careful what we wish for. we are going to have a labour government. it's inevitable. 14 years of the tories. people are fed up . they're not listening to fed up. they're not listening to the tories anymore. the tories could these could have dealt with these issues ago and they issues a long time ago and they didn't. the way, david didn't. and by the way, david cameron as foreign secretary will rishi sunak to will not allow rishi sunak to take us out of the echr. he just won't. no, ijust take us out of the echr. he just won't. no, i just don't believe

he will because he was completely signed to that completely signed up to that whole . i mean, it's not whole eu thing. i mean, it's not the eu, it's 43 members of the echr but cameron would be implacably opposed. >> it would really sour the dinner parties, wouldn't it, between mate. dinner parties, wouldn't it, bet i een mate. dinner parties, wouldn't it, beti think mate. dinner parties, wouldn't it, beti think that mate. dinner parties, wouldn't it, beti think that he'd mate. dinner parties, wouldn't it, beti think that he'd takenmate. dinner parties, wouldn't it, beti think that he'd taken uste. dinner parties, wouldn't it, bet of1ink that he'd taken uste. dinner parties, wouldn't it, bet of the that he'd taken uste. dinner parties, wouldn't it, bet of the echr 1e'd taken uste. dinner parties, wouldn't it, bet of the echr1e'd'his�*n uste. dinner parties, wouldn't it, bet of the echr1e'd'his little e. out of the echr with his little davos crowd . davos crowd. >> so he was on, he was on, it was his watch we voted was on his watch that we voted for then echr when for brexit and then echr when he's foreign foreign secretary. no, cameron says no, i can't see cameron says there with the echr no, i can't see cameron says therhe with the echr no, i can't see cameron says therhe would with the echr no, i can't see cameron says therhe would never] the echr no, i can't see cameron says therhe would never sign echr no, i can't see cameron says therhe would never sign uphr no, i can't see cameron says therhe would never sign up to us but he would never sign up to us leaving. although the simplest thing sunak if they stick thing for sunak is if they stick their again where it's their nose in again where it's not just thank not wanted, we just say thank you, we're ignoring the you, we're ignoring it. the planes rwanda done planes going to rwanda done right up next, go home. >> that's what graffiti in tenerife has warned british tourists over the weekend. we're going to be joined by bar and hotel owner from the spanish island. live for his thoughts. what is it that we are doing wrong as brits when we head to these beautiful islands at this time year? don't go anywhere

gb news. very good morning. welcome back to britain's newsroom so it is a popular time of the year for brits to escape the cold, rainy days. and go somewhere lovely and in fact, you've just and hot, in fact, you've just been away. >> been away. malta. >> fabulous. >> fabulous. >> if you've never very >> if you've never been very nice, and was in nice, loved it. and i was in lanzarote half time in lanzarote just at half time in february, and i'm sure the maltese are very happy to see you there. >> were they. >> were they. >> they were, i think so no diplomatic incident. but they might not have i was in might not have been if i was in tenerife . tenerife. >> that's right. because the locals are very angry there, over the weekend, tourists were welcomed graffiti welcomed with this graffiti sprayed, warning britons go home, since some residents there have even been told that the government that they plan to go on hunger strike unless work on two new tourist attractions is halted days. halted in the next ten days. >> they don't like us. >> they just don't like us. >> they just don't like us. >> hunger strike how much do they us that they're they hate us that they're going to themselves death? to starve themselves to death? so an so brits don't get off an easyjet plane. >> they think beverley turner is

on flight. on the next flight. >> joining us now is john >> well, joining us now is john parks. the owner of the parks. he's the owner of the vault in tenerife. hiya, vault bar in tenerife. hiya, john. thanks for us. john. thanks forjoining us. i mean, we're joking here because it sounds like a comedy scenario that the locals are going to starve themselves to death because brits so because they hate us brits so much. bad it ? because they hate us brits so much. bad it? can you much. how bad is it? can you hear us, john? >> it's not a, a british, specific. >> i can't hear you . okay, it's >> i can't hear you. okay, it's not a british specific issue. it's a local issue that, is affecting the island, but it's not a, a target towards british people specifically. >> a lot of people over here struggle to find , accommodation struggle to find, accommodation to live in because the laws here have changed. and, people are now allowed to rent out their properties to whoever they want, in private homes, which gives a shortage in long term

accommodation. so the ire is directed at that. >> but perhaps it's been, put out in a bit of a bad way. >> that kind of gives the impression that, you know, no one's welcome. >> i don't think that's the case at and it's certainly not at all. and it's certainly not british at all. and it's certainly not britjohn, how important is the >> john, how important is the tourist to the tenerife economy? and i would say specifically british tourists , because i know british tourists, because i know a lot of brits go there because they want that, guaranteed sunshine . sunshine. >> yeah. it's massively important to the island, and it's what the, you know, the main, source of income for everyone here is. >> and it employs a lot of people, but it's, the concern that, you know, these people who are protesting are raising and i think they're raising in a, in a bad way. >> the concern is that, tourism at all costs could be damaging to the island. and this doesn't

just happen in places like tenerife. if you have a look down in devon or in the lake districts, there's areas of the uk where, you know, people are, they're being bid their properties to a degree that there is no residential dwellings anymore, and it builds frustration in the, in the local communities because, you know , communities because, you know, they change because because of they change because because of the influx of tourism . and it the influx of tourism. and it does places in the as does affect places in the uk as well as tenerife. and that's why i it's important to stress i think it's important to stress that this happens wherever tourism is eventually. if you're that this happens wherever tcpopular eventually. if you're that this happens wherever tc popular destination, if you're that this happens wherever tc popular destination, there 're that this happens wherever tc popular destination, there is a popular destination, there is a popular destination, there is a risk of overtourism , and that a risk of overtourism, and that happensin a risk of overtourism, and that happens in the uk as well. a risk of overtourism, and that happens in the uk as well . so happens in the uk as well. so this isn't some, you know, oh, we hate the brits. get them out thing. this is just, you know, people look after their, people want to look after their, their as well. their home as well. >> just seen , one of >> john, i've just seen, one of the which been the posters which has been put up which locals are up there which says locals are forced to move out and you are

responsible for that. digital nomads, you are not welcome here. are what they are here. so are what they are targeting. there are people who are working on laptops. is that what they mean by digital nomads? you can work anywhere. so you go and rent someone's house in tenerife for two weeks and do all your work. i and do all your work. yeah. i mean, there. >> yes. digital nomads i imagine, would probably be, a source of the, concern because , source of the, concern because, they have a lot more money than most regular workers , you know, most regular workers, you know, people who work here, in bars and restaurants . they're on and restaurants. they're on about 1200, 1300 a month. digital nomads usually work for , digital nomads usually work for, big multinational companies, digital, you know, online, you googles of this world, things like that. and they , the rental like that. and they, the rental pnces like that. and they, the rental prices for them doesn't mean anything. you know, a rent, a rental of a one bedroom apartment here used to be about ,600 a month for a digital nomad. that's . you

nomad. that's chicken feed. you know, they can afford to pay double but people who are double that, but people who are on 1213 hundred a month have suddenly found themselves priced out of the housing to market, the point where one bedroom apartments, los cristianos, apartments, in los cristianos, where , being offered for where i am, being offered for 11, 1200 a month, which is almost their entire pay packet. and, and that is, that is the, the, the issue really. it's not a case that people here don't like tourists . they do love like tourists. they do love tourists. we do, you know that. and everyone's welcome here. but at what cost? >> tell us about the british tourist, john. what are they like? the one who's come to your bar? do they behave themselves or do because we know that or do they. because we know that sometimes behave . sometimes brits can behave. brits holidays brits are brits and holidays abroad. a little abroad. they can be a little bit, worse for the wear. perhaps because cheaper booze . because of the cheaper booze. yeah well, i mean, in our bar, we have a very, very long problems, everyone comes in as respectful , and they're really respectful, and they're really nice, group of people that come

in, you know, the, the, the dynamic of our customer base is, is great. we don't have any problems at all. i think we've been open two and a half years in the bar, and i think we've had one peggy mitchell moment. so we're doing okay so far. >> okay. right. john thank >> okay. all right. john thank you so much. we're very looking forward to coming over to tenerife and have a drink in your bar one day. it is it's a lovely island. >> looks very beautiful. >> it looks very beautiful. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> it's assuring to know >> it's really assuring to know it's yes. it's not just anti—british. yes. and that's and this is a problem that's going cornwall devon. going on in cornwall and devon. yeah going to go on all >> and it's going to go on all over world. love that over the world. i love that phrase. nomads. not phrase. digital nomads. i've not heard up next, why heard that before. up next, why are soft on are we getting soft on criminals? find out the latest way judges being way that judges are being advised easy those advised to take it easy on those difficult backgrounds. this is britain's on news britain's newsroom on gb news arade the weather. arade dam with the weather. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hello and welcome to the latest forecast for gpus from

the met office. a lot of cloud today and there will be showers for many of us as well, particularly in the south. further north it's going to stay cold this to east north cold with this to east north easterly wind as low pressure moves away . a week where the moves away. a week where the front bringing a legacy of cloudy skies for much of the country. some decent bright spells for the northwest of scotland and south—east of scotland and the south—east of england. few england. but in between, a few showers , especially for the showers, especially for the north of scotland, where those showers as showers will be falling as snow over the and across over the hills and across central england. central and southern england. wales where the showers will be heavy at times, particularly early afternoon , feeling quite early afternoon, feeling quite warm showers in warm away from the showers in the south. 17 celsius. a the south. 16 or 17 celsius. a stark contrast further north northern england, scotland, northern feeling cold northern england, scotland, nortwith feeling cold northern england, scotland, nortwith that feeling cold northern england, scotland, nortwith that coldeeling cold northern england, scotland, nortwith that cold air1g cold northern england, scotland, nortwith that cold air in cold northern england, scotland, nortwith that cold air in place, and with that cold air in place, we're going to see a band of rain move north overnight and that's going falling that's going to be falling as snow hills of northern snow over the hills of northern england, and then eventually across and central across southern and central scotland. some significant snow by dawn. also some significant rain at lower levels, particularly through the central belt, could cause some issues. a wet start for places, mild

wet start for many places, mild in the south, windy with that as well. with these bands of rain moving through, but that significant across significant snow there across central and increasingly northern scotland could cause some issues with 20cm or so building up over higher routes. now as we go to the afternoon, brighter spells and blustery showers form in the south. further spells of rain for northern ireland, scotland and northern england, where it will stay side . stay on the cold side. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers , sponsors of boxt boilers, sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> thanks aidan. still to come, brits are eating 50% more takeaways than we did before the pandemic . are we a nation of pandemic. are we a nation of fatties? well, i'm not and i don't ever eat sukh or takeaways. >> do you do like a takeaway? >> do you do like a takeaway? >> but the bloomin expense of their extraordinarily expensive but since before but twice as many since before the pandemic. god, we've got lazy, haven't we? yeah, this is britain's newsroom on gb news, the people's

channel. >> it's 11 am. on thursday, the 4th of april. this is britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pierce and bev turner for good morning. >> are we getting soft on criminals? judges are being told to consider lenient to consider more lenient sentences from sentences for those from disadvantaged , as disadvantaged backgrounds, as and more than 600 lawyers, including three former supreme court judges, have joined calls for britain to suspend arms exports to israel after the death of three british aid workers in gaza and rishi's rwanda resolution. the prime minister threatens to quit the european court of human rights in order to get his planes off the ground , and it's another the ground, and it's another sewage dumping scandal the lib dems have unveiled. >> lib dems want to see river pollution clampdown with a new blue flag status for our rivers . blue flag status for our rivers. sadly for yorkshire, you top the

list for the dirtiest rivers in england. >> the thing is, you can put a blue flag in the river like we used to have with the beaches. do we still have that with the beaches? we left the eu? beaches? after we left the eu? i don't know, not going don't know, but it's not going to pressure on the water to put any pressure on the water companies rivers companies to improve the rivers because they've got a monopoly on water anyway. on most of the water anyway. yeah. and there's no competition. >> i mean, you privatised >> i mean, you have privatised the have the autism, but you can't have different water in different taps. the same taps. it's all from the same company . company. >> who the flag meant to >> who is the flag meant to shame? the idea of it in shame? i like the idea of it in terms of us knowing where we could swim or go in a paddleboard or whatever, but i'm not sure ed davey really thought that through. that one through. >> don't think >> well, i just don't think i would in a river. anymore. would swim in a river. anymore. >> oh filthy brother . >> oh two filthy brother. >> oh two filthy brother. >> know your thoughts >> let us know your thoughts this morning. vaiews@gbnews.com. first though, the very latest news headunes though, the very latest news headlines with sam francis.

>> beth and andrew, thank you very much and good morning from the gb newsroom. it's just gone 11:00 leading the news this hour . more than lawyers and . more than 600 lawyers and academics written to the academics have written to the prime minister warning that britain risks breaking international law by continuing to israel weapons . to supply israel with weapons. among those who've signed that letter are three former supreme court justices, including the court's former president, lady hale. they say there is a plausible risk of genocide in gaza, according to the international court of justice. and they say that britain is now obuged and they say that britain is now obliged to suspend the sale of arms. well, shadow business secretary jonathan riddles says that the government must publish legal advice that it's received on the uk's arrangement with israel . israel. >> the law of the uk is very, very clear. if there is any possibility of anything exported from the uk being involved in a serious violation of human korean law, it cannot be exported from the uk . so the

exported from the uk. so the government will have had legal advice on that specific to the conflict gaza, ask conflict in gaza, we would ask them publish legal them to publish that legal advice. it would i think, a advice. it would be, i think, a reasonable given has reasonable step given what has happenedin reasonable step given what has happened in the last days happened in the last few days and happened over the and what has happened over the last to make clear last few months to make clear the and make last few months to make clear the the and make last few months to make clear the the governmentd make last few months to make clear the the government itself1ake last few months to make clear the the government itself ,ake last few months to make clear the the government itself , and sure the government itself, and we are currently complying with uk . uk law. >> meanwhile, the united nations has put its missions in gaza on hold, while charities review their humanitarian work in the region. it's after seven aid workers were killed by an israeli airstrike there on monday. they were part of a group from the world central kitchen organisation whose vehicles were hit while travelling on an approved humanitarian route. among them were three british nationals john chapman, james henderson and james kirby. the charity's founder has accused israeli forces of targeting its workers. he says systematically car by car. foreign editor of jewish news , yotam confino, told gb news, yotam confino, told gb news, yotam confino, told gb news this morning that a full investigation must be allowed to take place. >> whether this was systematic

and deliberate actually going after these aid workers, i think that remains to be seen until the israel can really, present some of its investigation fully to the world. but it makes no sense for israel to target this organisation, because not only is it working closely with this organisation, it's actually helping them distribute the food that they from cyprus . that they deliver from cyprus. >> the prime minister says that britain could pull out of the european court of human rights if it obstructs the government's rwanda plan . rishi sunak says rwanda plan. rishi sunak says controlling illegal migration is more important than membership of the echr, and that he would not let what he called the foreign court interfere in sovereign matters. labour, though, has accused the prime minister trying to appease minister of trying to appease the hard right his party. in the hard right of his party. in other news, british farmers are today calling for a guaranteed bafic today calling for a guaranteed basic income after post—brexit arrangements left many worse off. at least 100 have joined a

campaign group urging the government to help cover basic costs after the loss of subsidies from the european union analysis last year by the organic farming group riverford found that half of britain's fruit and vegetable growers may go out of business within just a yean go out of business within just a year, and it comes as suppliers are warning of higher prices and possible empty supermarket shelves due to a new post—brexit border charge, which will be introduced the end this introduced at the end of this month . judges have been told to month. judges have been told to consider more lenient sentences for offenders from deprived or from difficult backgrounds . the from difficult backgrounds. the sentencing council, which sets guidelines for judges and magistrates, has for the first time outlined mitigating factors that it says courts should consider before handing down a sentence. those factors include poverty, low education, discrimination and insecure housing. former met police detective peter bleksley says the law should treat everyone equally. >> judges take these factors into account. this is deeply insulting to anybody who was

born into poverty, who was not particularly academic , who went particularly academic, who went on to make a decent living, contributing to society. we should all be judged as equals in the eyes of the law. but this just flies in the face of all that. >> and an update on the developments in taiwan , where developments in taiwan, where dozens of people are still missing. nine people are also known to have died after major known to have died after a major earthquake. if you're earthquake. there if you're watching television, you watching on television, you can see pictures from the see here live pictures from the scene in taiwan where officials are speaking after are currently speaking after their rescue efforts from taroko national park. more than 1000 people have so far understood to be suffering from injuries. however, emergency workers have been commended for their response to the disaster, with some shelters in operation within just two hours of that major quake . and if you've major quake. and if you've thought that adjusting to daylight saving time was hard, well, how about lunar time? the moon is to get its own time zone in an effort to provide a coordinated benchmark for spacecraft and satellites. but

it's not quite as simple as readjusting your watch with the moon differencing differing, its gravitational force affecting how time unfolds relative to how we perceive it here on earth . we perceive it here on earth. for those planning a trip to space, nasa is hoping to develop its new lunar time by the end of 2026. for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the code on your screen, or go to gb news. com slash alerts for now, though, it's back to andrew and bev . it's back to andrew and bev. >> it is 1107 with britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pearson. bev turner carole malone is here with us and also author nichi hodgson. >> i think we've calmed down >> i think we've all calmed down now after your revelations. >> might you look at >> you might have you look at twitter, don't it twitter, but no, don't i it occurred me you occurred to me when you were talking, thought, he's talking, i thought, what if he's watching ? well oh well, watching? well he might oh well, he watching if you he better be watching if you miss the conversation. >> the first hour, can watch >> the first hour, you can watch it or gb

it back on youtube or on the gb news remember that? news app. do you remember that? believe me, it's worth looking at. is right. at. it really is right. let's look echr and whether look at the echr and whether sunak would quit carol it sunak would quit carol if it meant that he was given the freedom, the shackles came off and he could put people on the plane to rwanda. >> do you what i really >> do you know what i really want to believe ? he'll do it. want to believe? he'll do it. i do, i'm desperate to believe he'll and said, in all he'll do it. and it said, in all the papers today what he's saying is it offends my sense of fairness remove fairness that we can't remove illegal immigrants to rwanda. now he said this before he said it in previous months. and i think i think it's no coincidence that he said it again, knowing that there's a poll coming out that says they're be slaughtered they're going to be slaughtered come poll come the election. yougov poll says face a worse says they could face a worse election defeat than 1997, and that that keir could win something like 154 seats, 154 seat majority, a majority, i beg your pardon? 154 seat majority. you're right. 400 seats below 154 majority. which would mean that's almost double what boris got in the in 2019. so i want to believe that he will do this.

but you know if he if he believed that he says that in a border security and control illegal immigration, it's more important than foreign court. important than a foreign court. well if it was, why didn't he do it a year ago? because he knew that when it went to the lords, they were going kick up and they were going to kick up and they were going to kick up and they here's they were going to and here's they were going to and here's the thing. they were going to and here's the karen thing. they were going to and here's the karen carroll, he appointed carroll. >> known me for e known me for a carroll. >> known me for a long >> you've known me for a long time. >> ? career. i'm talking >> not not a career. i'm talking about dementia. yeah. >> yes, exactly. it's happening. >> appointed when he >> he appointed he when he brought david cameron into brought david cameron back into the cameron the government. david cameron is the government. david cameron is the europhile foreign the most europhile foreign minister ever minister we've probably ever had. allow it. had. cameron would not allow it. yes he would not allow rishi. now might a blind eye if now he might turn a blind eye if the decision is to. we're ignonng the decision is to. we're ignoring the european court verdict that they say the flights come back. yes, but to take us out, he'd lose his foreign secretary. take us out, he'd lose his for you see, i don't think rishi wants out. i mean, i think he probably fundamentally believes in wanted out, in it because if he wanted out, he would have said so a long time ago. think that, time ago. and i think that, you know, see through time ago. and i think that, you kn0\now. see through time ago. and i think that, you kn0\now. know, ye through time ago. and i think that, you kn0\now. know, if, :hrough time ago. and i think that, you kn0\now. know, if, you1gh this now. you know, if, you know, how we'll fight know, this is how we'll fight the on platform. the election on this platform. but the but people, you know, the electorate are not stupid and

they what doing that they know what he's doing that if he'd meant this, he'd have done before. so now he's done it before. so now he's doing months, saying doing it like six months, saying you'll it six months before you'll do it six months before the saying the election. he's saying he will no will do it, but there's no guarantee that he will either. so, i do think it's so, you know, i do think it's you hoping you know, i was really hoping the it out of the tories might pull it out of the tories might pull it out of the , you know, in months the bag, you know, in the months before. don't see before. but i really don't see any hope at all now. >> do you believe him, nikki? he says he'll leave the echr. i'll say. well, why? had say. well, why? you've had a long agree, i agree. long time, i agree, i agree. >> think it's the last card in >> i think it's the last card in his hand play, pretty much, his hand to play, pretty much, isn't stage. isn't it? at this stage. >> counter >> and it's to counter the threat reform. >> and it's to counter the threat yes, 'eform. >> and it's to counter the threat yes, ofyrm. >> and it's to counter the threat yes, of course it is. and >> and yes, of course it is. and i mean, don't think he'd get i mean, i don't think he'd get enough mean , the enough support. i mean, the house would be in house of lords would be up in arms tried leave the arms if you tried to leave the echr. have to get it echr. he'd have to get it through. yes. i mean, you through. yes. i mean, i, you know, personally, i'm a fan of the think protects the echr. i think it protects women. think it protects women. i think it protects minorities. protects workers. minorities. it protects workers. actually, it's really important for rights. actually, it's really important for the rights. actually, it's really important for the british rights. actually, it's really important for the british doihts. actually, it's really important for the british do that. actually, it's really important for ihe british do that. actually, it's really important for ihe britii'd do that. actually, it's really important for ihe britii'd be do that. actually, it's really important for ihe britii'd be well,» that. >> i mean, i'd be well, maybe they minute , but i'd they do at the minute, but i'd be dubious about where be very dubious about where things manoeuvre, if that things would manoeuvre, if that if that safeguarding was taken off, i'd be worried.

>> i think the british supreme court, yes. i don't agree with the british supreme court. i prefer the law lords, but the british of british judiciary is the envy of the world, arguably, i don't know, i don't i don't i 43 know, i don't feel, i don't i 43 european judges, we have laws in place to protect. >> well, i mean, i mean look i, l, >> well, i mean, i mean look i, i, i was remain i believe in europe, i believe in being part of europe echr is kind of europe and the echr is kind of europe and the echr is kind of the last thing that we have binding in way which for me binding us in a way which for me is a positive and i understand will negative if don't will be a negative if you don't if but it's a negative if, you >> but it's a negative if, you know, country should know, we every country should have its borders and have control of its borders and we have control our we no longer have control of our borders in borders, they're porous. and in terms that is terms of security, that is catastrophic . and i just think catastrophic. and i just think it's catastrophic. and i just think wsfime catastrophic. and i just think it's time we took back control of borders . it's what we of our borders. it's what we left the eu for. was the left the eu for. what was the point? we can't control them? yeah. >> anyway, mean, yeah, i mean, >> anyway, i mean, yeah, i mean, the thing the problem is we have to then make arrangements with countries in order to deport. and, you know, the rwanda bill is well, i know, but rwanda and, you know, the rwanda bill is wthat know, but rwanda and, you know, the rwanda bill is wthat hasn't but rwanda and, you know, the rwanda bill is wthat hasn't that rwanda and, you know, the rwanda bill is wthat hasn't that hasn'tanda bill that hasn't that hasn't worked. stuck. worked. that's completely stuck. so is there of us so what chance is there of us making better arrangements with countries to move the people

that rid of? that we want to get rid of? >> funny, we should just >> well, funny, we should just turn the boats back a lot eafien turn the boats back a lot easier. think so. i mean i >> well, i think so. i mean i completely france gets completely you know, france gets takes people of way. takes people out of the way. italy as people have italy does as well. people have arrived you arrived illegally. we do you know. there that know. yeah. and there was that argument this argument about id cards this weekend. that would weekend. i was saying that would help but help stop the boats. but the thing that works. if you thing is that that works. if you have a government to have a government willing to deport have come here deport people who have come here illegally, we appear have deport people who have come here il governmentne appear have deport people who have come here il government that)pear have deport people who have come here il government that isear have deport people who have come here il government that isear willing a government that is not willing to deport and a home office that can't process anything that is hundreds thousands of claims hundreds of thousands of claims stuff, of stuff, talking about sort of extraordinary laws that leave most of us baffled. we most of us baffled. should we talk scotland's hate talk about scotland's new hate crime? >> yes. >> yes. >> obviously, carol. yes, >> so obviously, carol. yes, very , potentially kind of very, potentially kind of draconian, tyrannical piece of legislation. >> i'm glad you've described us that, because that's exactly what it is. >> breathing down the necks of people who say things, say things which another person might offensive. best might deem offensive. the best thing about this is that the police were swamped with 4000 claims. you know, i, i love i love this mischief. >> as if you couldn't have predicted this would happen.

yeah. humza yousaf is going to rue the day that he minister that. yes, that he passed this law because overnight in one 24 hour period, 4000 phone calls that even the government have called spurious. a woman called community safety minister siobhan brown. she's saying it's led people to make silly and what she called them, vexatious claims . so yes, but it's a silly claims. so yes, but it's a silly law and it's a silly law. and the thing is, i don't believe the thing is, i don't believe the majority of people in scotland want this law. the only people i don't believe the trans community particularly wanted. i think it's trans activists think it's the trans activists who trying to who want it. they're trying to create this, this scenario where they can say, everyone hates trans. well, that's just not the case. you know, you know, the majority of people want trans people to live their very best life possible. what we don't want is to forced to believe want is to be forced to believe in ideology be in their ideology and to be called . if we don't called transphobes. if we don't and this, this law, and i think , and this, this law, and i think, you know, the what they're saying now, the cops are they've had to, create this like they're

calling it a gold squad . and, calling it a gold squad. and, and almost every police officer they've got is now in the girl squad. so proper crime, real crime is going to be out of control . control. >> it is. >> it is. >> exactly. so fraud, burglary, all of that murder. rape. >> exactly. so fraud, burglary, all yeah,t murder. rape. >> exactly. so fraud, burglary, all yeah, yeah.der. rape. >> yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah. >> forgotten. i mean, and also the massive oversight this the massive oversight in this law that misogyny is law is the fact that misogyny is not included as something that you hateful about, you you can be hateful about, you know, 51% of the know, more than 51% of the population know, more than 51% of the popwell,yn say they're going >> well, they say they're going to it or have a to add that to it or have a slightly different in the first place. >> f mean, y-a f mean, a bit. >> why? i mean, that's a bit. and that interesting and i find that interesting that actually know, actually jk rowling, you know, opposes then, you know, opposes it. and then, you know, that's the point that she's made. >> hang on, when p hang on, when >> and hang on, when that law was drafted, a was drafted, scotland had a first was woman. absolutely. >> it doesn't any to >> it doesn't make any sense to me waste of me whatsoever. it's a waste of a bill. it's a waste of passing legislation and it's a waste of police time. >> it's going to the crime >> it's also going to the crime statistic. in scotland statistic. statistic in scotland are going to rocket. yeah, because of this, because there's going to be no cops to deal with proper crime. you know, hats off to rowling. to j.k. rowling. she made a fantastic week when fantastic stand this week when she said she knows full well she she said she knows full well that they haven't gone her.

that they haven't gone for her. she's stuck two she's basically stuck two fingers up there and said, arrest me. scared of her? they're scared of but what arrest me. scared of her? they' also ared of but what arrest me. scared of her? they' also said,yf but what arrest me. scared of her? they' also said,yf b love, at she's also said, which i love, is woman says is that any woman who says something, any ordinary woman and being and i say that not being patronising, i mean with no power and not enough money to fight the scottish government, she stand alongside she said i will stand alongside that i will repeat that woman and i will repeat what and sue me as what she said and sue me as well. yeah, and it's brilliant. i think going be really i think it's going to be really hard for them to implement this i think it's going to be really harcanywhere to implement this i think it's going to be really harcanywhere .o implement this i think it's going to be really harc anywhere . yeah,lement this i think it's going to be really harcanywhere . yeah, and�*nt this i think it's going to be really harcanywhere . yeah, and in this law anywhere. yeah, and in england, quite right too. >> so it's quite great. i don't forget to add to >> just to add to the humiliation for the first minister scotland, one the minister of scotland, one of the complaints for complaints is against him for that speech made two years that speech he made two years ago on and about ago when he went on and on about i'm the only white person in the room. not. yeah. room. it's not. yeah. >> is a white. >> yes, it is a white. >> yeah it is. scotland is >> yeah, yeah it is. scotland is 95% white first minister and that's what been that's what there's been a complaint against him because they said it's promoting its hatred against white people, but also was it really a problem that needed to be solved? >> don't get the >> because i don't get the feeling was know, feeling that it was you know, it's debated 2021. feeling that it was you know, it's they've bated 2021. feeling that it was you know, it's they've been 2021. feeling that it was you know, it's they've been talking!021. feeling that it was you know, it's they've been talking about >> they've been talking about this forth. well, this going back and forth. well,

he he's he's kind of, you know, >> he's he's kind of, you know, his isn't this piece his legacy, isn't it, this piece of who wants it of legislation. but who wants it because i don't enough because i don't hear enough i don't about that. don't hear enough about that. >> pernicious >> for me, the really pernicious , insidious part of bill as , insidious part of this bill as well the snitching. yes well is about the snitching. yes yes, venues where yes, actual venues where you can go you don't even have go to report you don't even have to be the victim of it. you just say, was sat with andrew say, i was sat with andrew pierce and carole malone the other day, you're never other day, and you're never going andrew going to guess what andrew pierce said. >> said. >> what she said. >> what she said. >> well, will be you, >> yes, well, it will be you, not . not me. >> be you. these two definitely can't to scotland. can't go to scotland. >> could go i'll say, >> and i could go and i'll say, well, overheard well, i overheard this conversation and then police conversation and then the police had whether you two had to look into whether you two said offensive and even said anything offensive and even more if you more to do, even if you accidentally someone. accidentally misgender someone. >> so if you see someone who says they're a trans woman and they have a beard and whatever, and you refuse to call them a woman , you think it's a bloke woman, you think it's a bloke and you say that and you misgender that's an offence. >> well, it's about if they if they can interpret it as stirring up. right. this is thing. >> so how do you , how do you >> so how do you, how do you ever prove intent. it's very, very difficult to prove intent.

>> don't to >> but you don't even have to prove intent this. you prove intent under this. you don't prove intent don't accidentally prove intent accidentally. be accidentally. you could be recorded accidental offence recorded for accidental offence because it's their feelings that count. it's their feelings that count. it's their feelings that count. it's the victims feelings that count. >> and then it's going to come into when parent into the home when the parent doesn't old doesn't want the 15 year old absolutely gender. doesn't want the 15 year old absit's:ely gender. doesn't want the 15 year old absit's going gender. doesn't want the 15 year old absit's going to gender. doesn't want the 15 year old absit's going to be gender. doesn't want the 15 year old absit's going to be a gender. doesn't want the 15 year old absit's going to be a thing. der. >> it's going to be a thing. >> it's going to be a thing. >> so that starts is that hatred? >> and also p-i >> well, and also just the chilling effect chilling the chilling effect on journalism arts. what's chilling the chilling effect on journato m arts. what's chilling the chilling effect on journato happen arts. what's chilling the chilling effect on journato happen to arts. what's chilling the chilling effect on journato happen to artsedinburgh going to happen to the edinburgh festival? talked to a comedian >> well, we talked to a comedian yesterday, comedian. >> well, we talked to a comedian yestervery comedian. >> well, we talked to a comedian yestervery and comedian. >> well, we talked to a comedian yestervery and she1edian. >> well, we talked to a comedian yestervery and she they n. >> well, we talked to a comedian yestervery and she they are she's very good and she they are very i very worried about it. i can modify they well they modify it. they will. well they have to jk rowling the have to jk rowling at the edinburgh festival, are we talking the fact that talking about the fact that we're as many we're eating twice as many takeaways before takeaways as we were before lockdown ? lockdown? >> this is quite >> nikki, this is quite baffling, i was baffling, this story. i was surprised so apparently , surprised by it. so apparently, yes, brits scoffing 50% more yes, brits are scoffing 50% more takeaways lockdown , takeaways than before lockdown, because lockdown gave us an appetite in and appetite for ordering in and because so many restaurants turned to doing that. so it became more ubiquitous. i became even more ubiquitous. i mean, becoming little mean, we're becoming a little bit the way that bit like america the way that they cook. they they don't really cook. they just go out for just order in or go out for meals . yeah, but the, the meals. yeah, but the, the worrying we're now

worrying bit is that we're now consuming an average of 400 calories per week, from fast food shops. >> that's double 400 a week. >> that's double 400 a week. >> that's double 400 a week. >> that can't be. i mean, i think it's got to be more than that. >> that's probably 4100 and a half an hour. i would think that's half an onion. well. well, exactly. that's ridiculous. >> well, but even i mean, even 4 or that's or 500 calories a week, that's that's five that's an extra pound after five weeks, that's an extra pound after five weeso how can can people >> so how can how can people afford. >> well, that's what they're saying. >> they're swear to god live >> they're swear to god i live in know, and and >> they're swear to god i live irsee know, and and >> they're swear to god i live irsee this know, and and >> they're swear to god i live irsee this the know, and and >> they're swear to god i live irsee this the deliveroo nd and >> they're swear to god i live irsee this the deliveroo bike and >> they're swear to god i live irsee this the deliveroo bike atj i see this the deliveroo bike at lunch time at this person's house. night time i'm house. and at night time i'm thinking, is that thinking, how much is that costing day? yeah, costing you a day? well, yeah, it when get i it upsets me when i get when i get £40 for, for get charged £40 for, for a chinese takeaway. i think what i think. >> takeaways. takeaways are so ridiculous. 60. it's like £60 where for an indian. where we live for an indian. absolutely you might as well go out for a meal, you know. >> that's the point. you >> i mean that's the point. you could restaurant. could go into a restaurant. >> absolutely. could go into a restaurant. >> you absolutely. could go into a restaurant. >> you absolutely could. the >> you absolutely could. but the other thing that i'm worried about klarna about is that there's now klarna available on deliveroo. we've seen klarna that, pay in seen what klarna is that, pay in three pay later on credit. three or pay later on credit. use your joke, buy takeaways on credit. i think credit. and i think that's

really , really dangerous. really, really dangerous. >> slope. >> slope. >> so dangerous. >> that's so dangerous. >> that's so dangerous. >> say come and get it out >> i'd say come and get it out of me. yeah, i've eaten your curry. >> yeah , yeah, to hell with it. >> yeah, yeah, to hell with it. >> yeah, yeah, to hell with it. >> all right for me. >> it's all right for me. i never order a takeaway. >> you never have a takeaway, never have. i know that. never have. i do know that. >> good cook, andrew? >> are you a good cook, andrew? sorry. are you good cooking? sorry. are you good at cooking? >> not. >> it really is not. >> it really is not. >> do you someone else to >> do you have someone else to cook for you? >> you want go ask her >> you don't want to go ask her about white rice and white about her white rice and white fish. go. go >> so if you go. if you go to pearce's get it pearce's house, you get lamb. it doesn't what occasion doesn't matter what the occasion is. for 20 years. is. i've known you for 20 years. there's never been anything once. >> listen, let's just do a bit of a gear change and do this one big that's the big story that's on the front page today. page of the paper today. >> should selling arms >> should we stop selling arms to oh, don't anything >> oh, no, i don't know anything about carol. >> oh, no, i don't know anything aboit carol. >> oh, no, i don't know anything aboi don't carol. >> oh, no, i don't know anything aboi don't know.. >> oh, no, i don't know anything aboi don't know anything >> i don't know anything about that. >> i don't know anything about tha what do you think? >> what do you think? >> what do you think? >> based that, should >> based on that, we should really had really damning report we had this snipers this week about snipers targeting children. i absolutely think because think it's time because how how on earth do implement ceasefire? >> so few. >> so few. >> it's symbolic. >> it's symbolic. >> is symbolic, but >> it's symbolic. >> the is symbolic, but >> it's symbolic. >> the symbolism ic, but >> it's symbolic. >> the symbolism is but >> it's symbolic. >> the symbolism is what's maybe the symbolism is what's needed able needed to be able to pull a ceasefire needed to be able to pull a ceaitfire needed to be able to pull a ceait hasn't needed to be able to pull a cea it hasn't been yet needed to be able to pull a ceait hasn't been yet and >> it hasn't been proven yet and they proven. it's they haven't been proven. it's not it's not been proven that it's genocide . genocide. >> it hasn't. >> no, no it hasn't. >> it's even about >> it's not even about eliminate. it's about

that. >> e those e-l >> those those convoys, it was clear clearly humanitarian convoys. and there was a line in one of the papers today saying that may compensation that israel may pay compensation to the families. well, that doesn't help. that help doesn't help. that doesn't help achieve see, i'll achieve anything. you see, i'll have see, i think if it was have gone see, i think if it was deliberate, it's because they're trying the people in deliberate, it's because they're tryinginto the people in deliberate, it's because they're tryinginto submission, sople in deliberate, it's because they're tryinginto submission, because gaza into submission, because i think this, the big aid think all this, all the big aid convoys now have gone back to various because they convoys now have gone back to variotthink because they convoys now have gone back to variotthink can:ause they convoys now have gone back to variotthink can guarantee convoys now have gone back to vari safety. can guarantee convoys now have gone back to vari safety. i can guarantee convoys now have gone back to vari safety. i thinkan guarantee convoys now have gone back to vari safety. i think you jarantee convoys now have gone back to vari safety. i think you jarant> don't he cares what >> i don't think he cares what the unless gotten the well, unless he's gotten rid of the danger. of first. that's the danger. i mean, that's he's pushing mean, that's what he's pushing forward because there's every chance be chance that he's about to be unseated. chance that he's about to be unsthat's murmuring his >> that's murmuring in his coalition said november, coalition who said in november, we nuclear option on we can use the nuclear option on on gaza because it's a nuclear power, know, but the thing power, you know, but the thing is, netanyahu is as a man alone here because the israeli people do what is happening here because the israeli people do gaza what is happening here because the israeli people do gaza is what is happening here because the israeli people do gaza is fair'hat is happening here because the israeli people do gaza is fair right; happening here because the israeli people do gaza is fair right now pening here because the israeli people do gaza is fair right now .ening in gaza is fair right now. >> they they don't want it. you

know, you know, these know, they you know, these people, they've been people, although they've been wronged, want what's people, although they've been wronged, to want what's people, although they've been wronged, to people tl what's people, although they've been wronged, to people tl igaza. happening to the people in gaza. so you know, netanyahu a man so you know, netanyahu is a man alone. said he would it alone. he said he would raise it to the after october the to the ground after october the 7th, it. 7th, and he's doing it. >> yeah he is six months >> nikki. yeah he is six months on now. >> and well, this is the >> and that well, this is the point. everybody thought it would a relatively war. would be a relatively quick war. well, dragging well, it is, and it's dragging out just like what's happening in so 33,000 dead palestinians >> so 33,000 dead palestinians and 75,000 injured palestinians. and face it, forget, and let's face it, forget, though, what what triggered it? >> no, we must not forget. and i never do. but i think what's happening now is i think what what netanyahu is doing, i think is wrong. you cannot be starving. >> what he's doing is he's alienating people who would traditionally who are on his side . side. >> beau biden is fed up with them. i mean, we were we're getting we're getting on their side. we're getting on their side. we're getting saying, you getting close to saying, oh, you getting close to saying, oh, you get floating that get even just even floating that idea. >> e- idea. >> going to stop trading. >> we're going to stop trading. trading israel you trading arms to israel tells you everything about support would have everything about support would haerah. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> america maybe. >> and america maybe. >> and america maybe. >> well, we've covered a lot of ground today, ladies. light and shade. ground today, ladies. light and shade . thank much. nichi

shade. thank you so much. nichi hodgson right up hodgson carole malone. right up next looks like sir keir next it looks like sir keir starmer shoo in to starmer is in as a shoo in to win the next election. did you know years to the day know it's four years to the day since he became labour leader today? really excited >> i bet you're really excited about you, andrew? about that, aren't you, andrew? >> . >> so dark. >> so dark. >> he's gonna win by a mile. but that's nothing to do with him. it's because the tories have been using it. >> yes. >> is? yes. »- >> is? yes. >> happy anniversary anyway, to keir four keir starmer, labour leader four years today. are you happy about that? news. that? gb views at gb news. com don't anywhere britain's don't go anywhere britain's newsroom

gb news. >> wipe your croissant crumbs. >> wipe your croissant crumbs. >> i was just having a little bit of breakfast. >> for the first time since i've been up since 5:15. >> sorry about that . >> sorry about that. >> sorry about that. >> and it's very rude to talk with your mouth full. >> i'll start. 1125, >> right. so i'll start. 1125, by the way. alzheimer's by the way. so, alzheimer's test, would you want one? elaine says absolutely that would . says absolutely that she would. she says, i've worked for four years in many types of care

settings, dementia settings, including dementia settings. way am i ending settings. no way am i ending up in home. would want to in a care home. i would want to be able to plan my life to enjoy the i have, and then the years that i have, and then end my life before i cannot look after myself. >> but you after myself. >> but >> yeah, but how do you end your life? >> e-- >> well, that's the other debate, often >> well, that's the other delyou often >> well, that's the other delyou know, often >> well, that's the other delyou know, that's often >> well, that's the other delyou know, that's something >> well, that's the other delyyou're w, that's something >> well, that's the other delyyou're goingt's something >> well, that's the other delyyou're goingt's spinzthing that you're going to spin yourself debated yourself off to. debated dignitas in switzerland. >> and if you've the >> yeah. and if you've got the money, it's about £12,000, isn't it? i know £13,000. >> well, elaine said i want to leave my kids a hard earned inheritance. that's the risk, though, isn't it? we have this debate the time, don't we, debate all the time, don't we, about dying. esther about assisted dying. so esther rantzen's campaigning rantzen's been, campaigning for, isn't ? yeah. isn't it? at the moment? yeah. virginia trials are virginia said these trials are being people being carried out on people already have already thought to have alzheimer's. classed alzheimer's. this is not classed as is why you as an illness, which is why you get no support for care if diagnosed. interesting. diagnosed. that's interesting. and these mps on the front page of the mail, who've been possibly honey trapped like a cyber honey, trapped like in the good old days of old fashioned tabloids. you might get some hottie young journalists going and having a coffee with mp,

and having a coffee with an mp, flattering bit and getting flattering him a bit and getting him something, flattering him a bit and getting him something , honey, to him to say something, honey, to do yeah. if you didn't see do it. yeah. if you didn't see that, to watch the that, you do need to watch the show back on the gb news app or on youtube. it's cyber on youtube. but now it's a cyber spy on youtube. but now it's a cyber spy speculation being spy and the speculation being it's not journalists, it's a rogue state, it's china. it's maybe russia getting compromising material, compromising material, compromising these and compromising on these mps. and mike has said these mps should be named shamed . they should be named and shamed. they should lose their jobs. these people lose theirjobs. these people make our laws and they are stupid. what is wrong with this country ? but you know, it's the country? but you know, it's the old i agree with you, but twas ever thus. you can't stop thin skinned john profumo, the war minister brought down in the early 60s vain men with a call girl . girl. >> what did she think she found interesting in him? >> nothing changes , does it? >> nothing changes, does it? >> nothing changes, does it? >> nothing changes, does it? >> nothing changes. right? they significant. labour >> nothing changes. right? they signifsupporter labour >> nothing changes. right? they signif supporter , labour >> nothing changes. right? they signif supporter , because )our >> nothing changes. right? they signifsupporter , because it's party supporter, because it's the fourth anniversary sir the fourth anniversary of sir keir labour keir starmer becoming labour party leader leader, it could be a signal . a signal. >> comte general election year for the party. katherine forster has this report. >> could a changed labour party

on the march on your side return to the service of working people ? >> things 7 >> things can always ? >> things can always change and fast, but current polling predicts a huge labour majority. how times change. four years ago, starmer took over a labour party smarting from its worst defeat since 1935. >> cumulatively, we lost the trust of the public in the labour party as a force for good and a force for change, and we've lost four general elections . elections. >> despite calls for a first female leader, the party plumped for another man from north london on a platform of ten left wing pledges making, he said the moral case for socialism. few of those pledges remain intact, but baroness jenny chapman, who was starmer's political secretary, explains so things that he said for years ago , before we left for years ago, before we left the european union, before

covid, before the financial crisis that liz truss pledged plunges into as a country, before our mortgages, all went through the roof, things you could say then you know, it's just not pragmatic or realistic to say the exact same things. now, starmer's determination to root out the anti—semitism that had surged under corbyn led to a zero tolerance approach, and quickly high profile figures being sacked or losing the whip, including the former leader himself . including the former leader himself. changing the party hasn't been easy when labour lost the hartlepool by—election to the tories in may 2021, starmer came close to resigning . starmer came close to resigning. the ensuing reshuffle aimed to clip the wings of deputy leader angela rayner, but ended with her gaining a whole host of titles for . but weeks later, the titles for. but weeks later, the partygate scandal began to break and labour passed the tories in the polls . the polls. >> boozy parties in downing

street, yes, is he now going to do the decent thing and resign ? do the decent thing and resign? >> yes, as the conservatives have swapped one prime minister for another and another against a backdrop of high taxes and stretched public services , the stretched public services, the labour lead has only grown. here's scarlett mccgwire pollster at jl partners . pollster at jl partners. >> and one thing that keir starmer has managed to do is make himself and the party look like a safe option again, especially around issues like immigration and the economy and his policy his numerous u—turns on policy have been seized on by the tories. >> now he seems to be opposing that policy. it's only wednesday, i know, he flip flops, but even for him it's pretty quick. >> the war in gaza has led to rebellions and the humiliation of george galloway winning rochdale . but starmer is focused rochdale. but starmer is focused on acting like a prime minister in waiting. >> we actually recently asked voters to describe keir starmer in a single word, and the most

commonly used words were weak, boring, unsure . sure, people boring, unsure. sure, people also use words like honest and competent and leader. and i think one thing that we hear more and more from people is that actually, the more they see of him , at least they think he of him, at least they think he might be a little bit more normal than rishi sunak. something we hear a lot. we hear we don't know what keir starmer stands for. we're not sure what the labour party stands for, but they must be better than what we've just for the last 14 we've just had for the last 14 years. going give we've just had for the last 14 years.a going give we've just had for the last 14 years.a go going give we've just had for the last 14 years.a go in going give we've just had for the last 14 years.a go in justying give we've just had for the last 14 years.a go in just four give we've just had for the last 14 years.a go in just four years. them a go in just four years. >> keir starmer dragged them a go in just four years. >> labour starmer dragged them a go in just four years. >> labour party1er dragged them a go in just four years. >> labour party back dragged them a go in just four years. >> labour party back towardszd the labour party back towards the labour party back towards the and to the edge of the centre and to the edge of power. katherine forster . gb news. >> that was an interesting little retrospective. >> yeah, and of course he will be prime minister because i can't see how these polls can change. interesting . change. and very interesting. catherine that catherine alluded to that by—election may, by—election in 2021. it was may, july 2021, in batley and spen. jo cox's sister the labour jo cox's sister was the labour candidate . she won by 321 votes

candidate. she won by 321 votes if they lost , starmer would have if they lost, starmer would have resigned. and who would have been the labour leader? angela flippin rayner. can you imagine that the deputy, she would be the labour leader and that could have changed everything. yeah, well, politics. it's a tiny thread, just this thread of luck , isn't it? >> so much about luck. >> so much about luck. >> and if boris hadn't lied about partygate, might have survived quite right . survived quite right. >> we're moving on. latest headlines. sam francis is waiting for us. sam . waiting for us. sam. >> good morning. from the newsroom. >> 1132 a recap of the headlines this morning. more than 600 lawyers and academics have written to the prime minister warning that britain risks breaking international law by continuing to supply israel with weapons among those who've signed that letter are three former supreme court justices , former supreme court justices, including the court's former president, lady hale. they say there's a plausible risk of

genocide in gaza, to according the international court of justice, and that britain is now obuged justice, and that britain is now obliged to suspend the sale of arms . the obliged to suspend the sale of arms. the prime minister says that britain could pull out of the european court of human rights if it obstructs the government's rwanda plan, rishi sunak says controlling illegal migration is more important than membership of the echr , and that membership of the echr, and that he would not let what he called the foreign court interfere in sovereign . british sovereign matters. british farmers are calling for a guaranteed basic income after post—brexit arrangements left many worse off. at least 100 have joined a campaign group urging the government to help cover basic costs after the loss of subsidies from the european union. it comes as suppliers warn of higher prices and possible empty shelves in supermarkets due to a new post—brexit border charge, which will be introduced at the end of the month . and air passengers the month. and air passengers fed up with tight limits on

liquids in carry on luggage will have to wait even longer for promised changes. several british airports will miss a june deadline to introduce new hi tech 3d scanners, which were supposed to end the need to remove things like laptops and liquids on flights. it means the 100 millilitre limit on liquids will remain for now , despite will remain for now, despite long promised changes, allowing up to two litres. that's the latest from the newsroom. in the meantime, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the code on your screen, or go to gbnews.com slash alerts . gb news.com slash alerts. >> gbnews.com slash alerts. >> for exclusive, limited edition and rare gold coins that are always newsworthy, rosalind gold proudly sponsors the gb news financial report , and news financial report, and here's a look at the markets this morning. >> the pound will buy you $1.2661 and ,1.1663. the price of gold is currently £1,812.66

per ounce, and the ftse 100 is 7968 points. >> rosalind gold proudly sponsors the gb news financial report . report. >> tom and emily are here. >> tom and emily are here. >> what are you up to? >> what are you up to? >> we are indeed here. thank you for introducing us. the echr, the european convention on human rights. rishi sunak do you believe? he says, you know, he is willing to pull us out. pull out our membership out of the court a caveat, out our membership out of the court a caveat , however. yes, court is a caveat, however. yes, we'll go for it. >> well , he says that the >> well, he says that the precise turn of phrase that he used was a particularly interesting one, because it was , interesting one, because it was, he prioritises controlling migration over any foreign court. >> now, a lot of people have interpreted that to mean that he could pull out of a foreign court. however what's he mean by controlling illegal migration? because he hasn't border control and through what mechanism would

he pursue that? it's almost like two steps down the line. >> yeah. it seems to me that he's looking at the shocking polling and he's thinking reform. is this how i get reform voters back on side ? that's what voters back on side? that's what he says. but will they believe him? i mean, it was almost comical, wasn't it, when the echr said issued their order and said, no, you can't send this rwanda flight off. and it sat on the tarmac. i remember we were watching it. yeah, comical wondering, is it actually going to and then the echr to take off? and then the echr said, no, no, no, you can't do this france has ignored this now. france has ignored the echr , so could sunak echr, so could rishi sunak actually ignore well, actually just ignore it? well, that's i rather than that's what i rather than pulling us out, you just say thank very for your edict. >> we're we're sending the flight anyway. ignore but flight anyway. ignore them. but these different things. these are two different things. >> known >> there are what? known as pyjama . now, these pyjama injunctions. now, these these stopped. the, stopped the original flights to rwanda. it didn't actually preclude the flight taking off. it flight itself taking off. it just picked off every single individual so he could individual on board. so he could have very well flown an empty

plane there, that wouldn't plane there, but that wouldn't have now, have made much sense. the now, these, these, these interim orders, which are the pyjama injunctions, are interim . so the injunctions, are interim. so the prime minister has a fairly strong position in which he could say , i'm not going to could say, i'm not going to listen to those. and there has been internal reform in been some internal reform in terms how they're done. the terms of how they're done. the problem those problem then becomes if those interim orders turn into official of the echr, official rulings of the echr, the prime minister hasn't said that he would ignore a ruling of the echr if he was a member. so pyjama injunctions one thing, ruling a second thing, and if it came to that would exit of the echr be on the table. the problem is, is he'd been playing he's been playing around with domestic legislation. >> the desired >> it's not having the desired effect. the only solution? >> will find in next >> we will find out in the next three hours? emily tom here three hours? emily and tom here from till 3:00. don't from midday till 3:00. don't go anywhere, is another from midday till 3:00. don't go anyminutes is another from midday till 3:00. don't go anyminutes so is another from midday till 3:00. don't go anyminutes so is wether from midday till 3:00. don't go anyminutes so is we are 20 minutes or so of us. we are gb news. go anywhere

welcome back to britain's newsroom. you have been very busy this morning. getting such. just. thank you so much. carol says i came from poor says i came from a poor background in east of background in the east of london. about whether london. this is about whether you lenient you should have lenient sentences. committed sentences. we've never committed crimes. our government seems to be getting madder than march hares these days. lawfully, we should all be equal and treated fairly. deprived is no fairly. being deprived is no reason commit crime, and fairly. being deprived is no reas0|just commit crime, and fairly. being deprived is no reas0|just encouraged|e, and fairly. being deprived is no reas0|just encouraged criminals we're just encouraged criminals to their deeds. to carry on their bad deeds. rishi, for goodness stop rishi, for goodness sake, stop coming stupid. coming up with these stupid. >> fair to the government, >> to be fair to the government, and not always fair if some and i'm not always fair if some people say this is not a government idea, this is the sentencing council. the sentencing council. and the justice alex chalk, sentencing council. and the just said alex chalk, sentencing council. and the just said it's alex chalk, sentencing council. and the just said it's ridiculous. zhalk, has said it's ridiculous. >> good. and he doesn't. >> good. and he doesn't. >> but, but but they they have the power to issue these guidelines and they and they will people spending guidelines and they and they wlong people spending guidelines and they and they wlong time people spending guidelines and they and they wlong time in people spending guidelines and they and they wlong time in prison,e spending a long time in prison, particularly with particularly those with difficult particularly those with diff but: particularly those with diffbut as long we're making >> but as long as we're making the time while the best of their time while we've educate them, we've got them, educate them, train them therapy, train them, give them therapy, give medications , whatever give them medications, whatever it is that they need to get

their in order. sunak and their lives in order. sunak and their lives in order. sunak and the echr robin says, ignore or pull out of the echr it is simple . simple. >> the thing is, the idea that he could pull out of the echr before the general election is for the birds. yeah, it has to go through parliament, it's not in the manifesto. the house of lords would tear it to shreds. the only way he can stop this is if he just says to european court, thank you for your ruling. stuffed. court, thank you for your ruliyeah. stuffed. court, thank you for your ruliyeah. that'sed. court, thank you for your ruliyeah. that's easy. court, thank you for your ruliyou1. that's easy. court, thank you for your ruliyou1. th like easy. court, thank you for your ruliyou1. th like he's getting so >> you feel like he's getting so desperate going be desperate now he's going to be flying the blimming planes himself. bags himself. and he put in the bags on. actually help me. on. well, actually help me. >> idea because grant >> there's an idea because grant shappsis >> there's an idea because grant shapps is qualified pilot. the shapps is a qualified pilot. the defence secretary put grant shappsin defence secretary put grant shapps in behind the cockpit. >> he does every job anyway . i'm >> he does every job anyway. i'm sure he can add that to his list. >> he thinks he's going to be the leader anyway, the next tory leader anyway, which is tricky because if you look he's look at the polls, he's not going to his seat. going to hold his seat. >> blimey, said, i think >> blimey, jeff said, i think cameron advised to cameron has advised sunak to announce cameron has advised sunak to announ

have a referendum. look how well that out last time that worked out last time for cameron called cameron when he called a referendum morose. referendum soaked, quite morose. sunak the sunak will not pull out of the echr. the guts. echr. he does not have the guts. he's i believe echr. he does not have the guts. h word i believe echr. he does not have the guts. h word comingi believe echr. he does not have the guts. hword coming out believe echr. he does not have the guts. hword coming out of believe echr. he does not have the guts. hword coming out of hisieve echr. he does not have the guts. hword coming out of his mouth. a word coming out of his mouth. this trust issue is absolutely enormous for the conservatives, isn't it? and says if rishi isn't it? and ray says if rishi took of the echr, cameron took us out of the echr, cameron would another would resign. so it's another good it. good reason to do it. >> that's problem. and >> that's the problem. and i don't still, to this day don't really he brought don't still, to this day don't really cameron he brought don't still, to this day don't really cameron back, he brought don't still, to this day don't really cameron back, becauserght david cameron back, because i haven't met many tory mps who think. it was a good think. i think it was a good idea, although i think he conducts on the conducts himself well on the international stage. >> e establishment figure, right? >> he e- right? >> he is just not what >> he is. he is just not what the public want at moment there. >> so he's using the job to burnish his credentials as an international statesman because he was washed up and finished because of that scandal over him lobbying finance lobbying for that dodgy finance company that went bust, greensill capital. so he's greensill capital. so when he's no longer a foreign secretary, when the tories lose the election, he'll into big election, he'll walk into a big job guarantee. >> makes me takeaways >> it makes me sick. takeaways talking of making you sick, anthony says during covid, many more people discovered lots of takeaway meals cooked far better

than cook themselves. than they could cook themselves. takeaway meals the midlands takeaway meals in the midlands are , like £18 are unbelievably cheap, like £18 on average for a good meal for two once a week. it's great to see i still think £18 can say if you're talking about like, you know, a pizza or rice and curry. £18. >> let me tell you, when we were growing up, £18 relatives where we were growing up, we wouldn't be having a takeaway this is the thing i find. >> i find takeaways extortionate , innit? especially the ones my teenagers want roast dinner for two for £10. yeah, but two people for £10. yeah, but it's massive it's normal and it's massive behavioural change now. and the younger generation, i will walk through every through the door almost every day . the kids through the door almost every day. the kids will through the door almost every day . the kids will say takeaway day. the kids will say takeaway mum, i go, have a takeaway, mum, i go, no, have a takeaway, mum, i go, no, have a takeaway, mum, when think that mum, no. when do you think that answer to change? answer is going to change? >> do they like? >> what flavour do they like? >> what flavour do they like? >> do they. >> what do they. >> what do they. >> burgers, burgers and pizza. well, but not well, not pizzas, but i'm not spending money on a pizza. burgers generally £60 for a burger and chips for burger and chips arrives for four people. and just like that, that's half my weekly shop. anyway all right, up next, the dirtiest river in the country has been revealed. eope. it's in

yorkshire. how do we tackle the sewage scandal in our water with britain's

gb news? >> well, it's the dirtiest river in the country . it's been in the country. it's been revealed. it's the river calder in yorkshire. >> that's right. it's top the list with more than 4000 sewage spills. equivalent of spills. that's the equivalent of 33,000 hours of raw sewage dumping last year. >> you just come out in a lib dem survey. they're calling for more protection for rivers. they want a blue flag scheme. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> that's right. we had on >> that's right. like we had on beaches. we've us beaches. yeah. we've got with us in studio. beaches. yeah. we've got with us in thetudio. beaches. yeah. we've got with us in the founder of waterways >> the founder of waterways protection, >> the founder of waterways prote should hanging they should be hanging their head water head in shame. these water companies, should. companies, they really should. >> what you to >> yeah, but what you have to remember the water companies remember is the water companies are not really water companies anymore . i mean, if we take anymore. i mean, if we take yorkshire water, for example, yorkshire water, for example, yorkshire water, for example, yorkshire water are just now a vessel. they're, they're owned by about four different major

investment practitioners, the singapore sovereign wealth fund, which owned 33.56% of yorkshire water. but what's interesting , water. but what's interesting, singapore has. yeah, one of the khalife for their own country . khalife for their own country. they have one of the cleanest, most advanced sewage systems in the world. they're all drinking pure water. they're all the seas are pristine because they they have some national pride and they would never conceive of doing what we do. >> tell us about thames water, because that's about to go bust with debts of £14 billion. no doubt they're going to whack extra charges on thames water customers biggest company in the country , thames water. country, thames water. >> okay, so if we look at thames water again this is thames water people . obviously a lot of people. obviously a lot of people. obviously a lot of people watching this, older people watching this, older people etc, people have a relationship with these water companies, these brands. we've been brought up with thames water. we like them. but what we have is that these have to remember is that these water completely water companies have completely been by these,

been hijacked. now by these, profiteers. so, you know, we have, you know, 31% of thames water owned by the, ontario municipal municipal retirement scheme. so, you know , the people scheme. so, you know, the people in canada's pension is actually profiting from the destruction of our of our waterways here as well , you know, we've got a we well, you know, we've got a we ourselves here of a university superannuation scheme, which is about 20% invested in it, but the rest fidelity investments, the rest fidelity investments, the chinese investment corporation , which owns about corporation, which owns about 8.6. 9, all of these, international interests that that own the water companies . that own the water companies. now, it's the water companies are nothing more than a than atm. they're a dividend machine. that's interesting . so it that's interesting. so it completely needs to change and we doesn't help them out. when you've got politicians constantly selling schemes that really don't go anywhere, you've got things like bathing water

status, which different charities , that take money from charities, that take money from water companies, different politicians get involved with some of them in good faith, some of them are not. but the idea is with bathing water or blue flag, which is, you know, the new liberal democrat scheme, these schemes that it's just essentially okay, so you can pollute in one part of the river andifs pollute in one part of the river and it's not going to affect the rest. it's a, it's do they have to be taken , philip, then in to be taken, philip, then in your experience and your knowledge of this, do they have your experience and your kn be .edge of this, do they have your experience and your kn be taken of this, do they have your experience and your kn be taken backs, do they have your experience and your kn be taken back into they have your experience and your kn be taken back into publiciave to be taken back into public hands the government own hands so that the government own these companies ? these water companies? >> it would be a very good start. >> i mean , the thing is, is if >> i mean, the thing is, is if we were to say to these companies that own the water companies, look, you need do companies, look, you need to do x , y and z. they don't have the x, y and z. they don't have the capitalisation. therefore then, yes, there is an argument for nationalisation, but nationalisation, but nationalisation means nationalisation. there's a new scam. we're being prepped scam. we're all being prepped for, which is the temporary

renationalisation . and all renationalisation. and all that's going to be is a company. the government comes on. maybe it starts off with conservative and labour finish the job, they'll take it back under nationalisation , they'll pay all nationalisation, they'll pay all their debts, make it all neat and tidy, and then they'll hand it back taxpayer money with taxpayer then they'll taxpayer money, and then they'll hand to the profiteers hand it back to the profiteers and you these and say, there you go. these people, they're not competent enough. they're inept. they should be anywhere near should not be anywhere near managing the sewage system. now, i'm not saying there's not a place for the private market. there course, there is. there is. of course, there is. we have no innovation in the water sector. so if the government has fully nationalised it and then the government can say to different private practices, okay, you want to come in and you want to do, you know, we could have 100, we could have we could have a revolution of hundreds of different maintenance companies , different maintenance companies, for al for example, using ai technology, each technology, competing with each other to be better teams on stats for repairing the broken network, this kind of thing, we could really foster innovation. it be really good for the it could be really good for the private for business

private market and for business in no, we've in general, but no, we've decided because of the old boys network and the established who all do deals with each other and put each other each other's put each other on each other's international that international wealth funds, that it's international wealth funds, that ifs and international wealth funds, that it's and that's it's all locked up and that's it. that's the whole thing. and the completely strangling any innovation. but it's no, it's what they say. it's what they want. >> so where can we make you secretary state for water? >> well, you know, i would love that. i would love the politicians to put me in charge of this situation , because none of this situation, because none of this situation, because none of them have the competency to deal with. >> obviously, they aren't to here defend and of here defend themselves. and of course them on course we would welcome them on any will them any time. we will invite them on the their any time. we will invite them on the of their any time. we will invite them on the of events. their any time. we will invite them on the of events. of heir any time. we will invite them on the of events. of course we version of events. of course we will. background? will. what's your background? if you two ago, you started this two years ago, i'm interested briefly. >> well, okay, so look, my background is, you know, i'm 43 years old today, my birthday . years old today, my birthday. thank you. well, no, not today, as in, you know, today . but as in, you know, today. but thank you anyway, for 3 or 4 weeks ago. but no, i worked with the financial adviser throughout my 20s into my 30s, in my 30s, i

had a bit of a breakdown, some mental health issues, anxiety, this kind of thing. and i sort of came out the other end. but i wanted to live a life with purpose as well, of meaning, you know, and simply. >> and it's two years. and how's the reaction from the public been to your, your personal challenge endeavour to challenge and endeavour to protect our waterways? >> . no, it's been good. i >> yeah. no, it's been good. i mean, i'm mainly trying to , mean, i'm mainly trying to, focus on, influence in the campaigning space because so many campaigners are campaigning for the wrong thing , come back for the wrong thing, come back and see us and run out of time. >> really impressive. founder of waterways protection, philip greenwood. i am hot footing it to talk to gb news members in our boardroom . now down the line our boardroom. now down the line on zoom. i'll see you in there in a minute. and i'm back on tubes and we see tubes tonight, and we will see you together monday. you both together on monday. emily then. emily hand see you then. >> rishi >> wonderful stuff. well, rishi sunak controlling illegal, sunak says controlling illegal, illegal immigration is more important than our membership of the european court of human rights. does he? will he

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gb news. >> away . >> away. >> away. >> good afternoon. britain. it's 12:00 on thursday, the 4th of april. >> the nuclear option. rishi sunak has said he's prepared to withdraw from the european convention on human rights. if that's what it takes to stop the boats. last night, he said controlling illegal immigration is more important than any foreign court. do believe foreign court. do you believe him ? him? >> two tiered justice british judges have been told to consider softening sentences for criminals if they happen to come from deprived or difficult backgrounds . should poorer backgrounds. should poorer people spend less time behind bars ? bars? >> and falklands threat the new maverick president of argentina has announced his roadmap to seize control of the british overseas territory. how worried should we .