honey trap texting scam. we're asking whether parliament's seedy reputation made mps an easy target, and the ultimate proof that lockdowns made us fat and lazy. consumption of calories by fast food is up by a whopping 50. since the start of the pandemic, child obesity is skyrocketing and nobody seems to care. so how do we reset our relationship to food and fitness ? relationship to food and fitness .7 and farmers are calling for a universal basic income, an unconditional states handout to plug unconditional states handout to plug the gap left by eu subsidies. we need to help our farmers, don't we.7 but subsidies. we need to help our farmers, don't we? but is this the solution? shouldn't they just receive fairer prices from the supermarkets and the number of people cheating on their

written driving theory test has tripled in the last two years? what has made young people so unable to sit exams, and how harshly should this be punished ? harshly should this be punished? very harshly in my opinion. do you agree ? that's all to come in you agree? that's all to come in the next hour with two fantastic guests. first though, the very latest news headlines with polly. >> beth, thank you and good evening to you. the top story this hour, the mastermind of an armed robbery in yorkshire 19 years ago that ended in a police officer being shot dead has been found guilty of her murder. if you're watching on tv, footage has been released showing the two police officers as they responded to the emergency call . responded to the emergency call. arriving at the scene of the armed robbery in 2005, 38 year old sharon beshenivsky died after she interrupted that raid, which took place at a travel

agency in bradford . she'd only agency in bradford. she'd only been a police officer for nine months prior. been a police officer for nine months prior . anahita khan flew months prior. anahita khan flew to pakistan two months after the murder, and remained at large until he was arrested in 2020. in other news today, the former tory minister sir alan duncan is being investigated for comments he made which accused two conservative peers of, in his words, doing the bidding of israel's prime minister. sir alan served as a foreign office minister under theresa may dunng minister under theresa may during an interview with lbc, he claimed the conservative friends of israel group was, in his words, doing the bidding of the israeli prime minister. he said two of its prominent members, lord polak and lord pickles , lord polak and lord pickles, should be removed from the house of lords. well it's understood when the party had written to sir alan to inform him of the investigation, which could result in him being expelled, he said the case lacked substance and prove dangerously and could prove dangerously harmful tories reputation harmful to the tories reputation . meanwhile, an independent investigation into an attack

which killed seven aid workers in gaza is being demanded by the world central kitchen charity. british nationals john chapman, james henderson and james kirby were among those killed by an airstrike. more than six. and in other news, more than 600 british legal experts , including british legal experts, including three former supreme court judges, are now calling on the uk to stop selling arms to israel. they say there's a plausible risk the weapons may be used to commit serious violations of international law, and that the prime minister must change britain's policy. shadow business secretary jonathan reynolds says the government must publish the legal advice it's received on the uk's arrangements with israel. >> the law of the uk is very, very clear. if there is any possibility of anything exported from the uk being involved in a serious violation of humanitarian law, it cannot be exported from the uk. so the government will have had legal advice on that. specific to the

conflict in gaza, we've asked them to publish that legal advice. it would be, i think, a reasonable step, given what has happenedin reasonable step, given what has happened in the last few days and what has happened over the last months make clear last few months to make clear the position and to make the legal position and to make sure government and sure the government itself, and we complying with we are currently complying with uk . uk law. >> the prime minister says britain could pull out of the european convention on human rights if it obstructs the government's rwanda plan. rishi sunak says controlling illegal migration is more important than membership of the echr, and he would not let a foreign court interfere in sovereign matters . interfere in sovereign matters. the leader of the liberal democrats is calling for a new system to flag which of britain's waterways are safe enough for people to swim in cases of water borne diseases, such as dysentery have soared by nearly 60% since 2010, while overflows of spilled sewage into rivers and seas in 2023 were more than double than the previous year. so ed davey says

something needs to be done to ensure people know which waters are safe for swimming . are safe for swimming. >> the environment agency, ofwat and the government need to be cracking down on companies to make sure they're not just putting giving money to their shareholders and to their executives, but actually invest in that money to clean up rivers like the river nidd. and we want to actually raise standards. so we're calling for new blue we're calling for a new blue flag for rivers like the flag status for rivers like the river nidd, would give river nidd, which would give a signal to people that it would be to swim in rivers. be safe to swim in these rivers. people do that. but now people used to do that. but now if do that, children that if they do that, children that end up getting awful diseases from e.coli and the bacteria from the e.coli and the bacteria from the e.coli and the bacteria from and ending up in from the sewage and ending up in hospital, unacceptable . hospital, that's unacceptable. so we need to raise standards. and that's what liberal democrats campaigning for. and that's what liberal derit's'ats campaigning for. and that's what liberal derit's ed campaigning for. and that's what liberal derit's ed davey mpaigning for. and that's what liberal derit's ed davey now.gning for. and that's what liberal derit's ed davey now. british)r. >> it's ed davey now. british farmers are calling for a guaranteed basic income after post—brexit arrangements left many worse off. at least 100 have joined a campaign group urging the government to help cover basic costs after the loss of subsidies from the european union analysis last year. by the

organic farming group riverford found that half of britain's fruit and vegetable growers may go out of business within a yeah go out of business within a year. it comes as suppliers warn of higher prices and empty supermarket shelves due to a new post—brexit border charge, which will be introduced at the end of this month. judges have been told to consider more lenient sentencing for offenders from depnved sentencing for offenders from deprived or difficult backgrounds. the sentencing council , backgrounds. the sentencing council, which backgrounds. the sentencing council , which sets backgrounds. the sentencing council, which sets guidelines for judges and magistrates. as forjudges and magistrates. as forjudges and magistrates. as for the first time outlined mitigating factors that it says courts need to consider before handing down a sentence. they include poverty, low educational standards, discrimination and insecure housing. but critics say the law should treat everyone equally , with the everyone equally, with the justice secretary, alex chalk, describing the guidelines as patronising and inaccurate . patronising and inaccurate. leicester city council says sensitive information has been posted online by a known

ransomware group after it was stolen in a cyber attack. the local authority was the victim of a hack last month, forcing it to shut down its it systems. it's confirmed that confidential documents have now been published by that group of hackers, including rent statements and some personal details . the group statements and some personal details. the group is statements and some personal details . the group is known to details. the group is known to have attacked another a number of other government, education and healthcare departments . the and healthcare departments. the national cyber security centre is now involved in the ongoing criminal investigation into that . dozens of people are still missing , and . dozens of people are still missing, and ten people are known to have died after a major earthquake in taiwan . ten people earthquake in taiwan. ten people have been urged to keep clear of mountainous areas due to the risk of falling rocks and buildings. more than a thousand people have suffered injuries, with nervous residents experiencing more than 300 aftershocks. however emergency workers have been commended for their quick responses , with their quick responses, with shelters in operation up within just two hours of the major

quake. just two hours of the major quake . and if you thought quake. and if you thought adjusting to daylight saving time was hard, how about adjusting to lunar time? the moon is to get its own time zone. apparently all in an effort to provide a coordinated benchmark for spacecraft and satellites. but it's not quite as simple as just readjusting your watch or your clocks . with your watch or your clocks. with the moon's differing gravitational forces affecting how time unfolds. relative, we're told by scientists to how we're told by scientists to how we perceive it here on earth. for those planning a trip to space, nasa hopes to develop its new lunar time by the end of 2026. that's your news. and for the latest stories, do sign up to gb news alerts. scan that qr code on your screen right now, or go to gb news. com slash alerts . alerts. >> thank you polly. welcome to dewbs& co it's me tonight bev turner my panel. half of them

are here. former editor of the sun, kelvin mackenzie. and we're waiting for the co—founder of novara media, aaron bastani. but kelvin, as is the way in london, aaron has got on the train. but you can never be sure anymore that anything works well, can you? >>i you? >> i see that they're planning another strike. rmt what puzzles me about trains is why is it that signalling , which is the that signalling, which is the bafis that signalling, which is the basis of all trains and has been going now since i think about 1812. so where are we now, a couple of hundred years. yeah. how is it that signalling still doesn't work? yeah. what is it? it's not new tech . it's not some it's not new tech. it's not some smart, smart app. it's not this. it's not that, but it doesn't work. and anybody who travels as i do on regular, i think you do as i do travel. anybody who travels regularly by train faces this issue , if not every day, this issue, if not every day, certainly every other day . and i certainly every other day. and i would like to have somebody come on here, anybody that's watching, explain why doesn't

signalling work 200 years later? >> this, this weekend? we weren't planning on discussing travel this evening , weren't planning on discussing travel this evening, ladies and gentlemen, but as we are waiting for aaron to arrive as well, this easter weekend, i had to go up to chester for a family event. i was dying to go on the train. i love a train journey, but was about £300 per but it was about £300 per person. returned to go bank houday person. returned to go bank holiday to friday monday. yeah, and there's five of us in our family and also there were bus replacement for half the journey anyway. right. >> so, so that journey which would have taken you was say a couple of hours, 2.5 hours. that's right. right. would actually are probably taking you 4 or 5 hours. this happened to a member of my family as well at the easter. it's a it's a joke. it is a total joke. and perhaps somebody else who watches and obviously you have you obviously have people have some clever people watching. perhaps they'd like to explain it that bus explain why is it that bus replacement replacement is totally across the entire network, the whole system is breaking down and the idea that

nationalising trains is going to be going to be better. i can remember when before it was before it became privatised, i would literally i lived in sevenoaks and i would literally take the next train that was coming in, heading towards london, because there was no such thing as a timetable. so so yeah.is such thing as a timetable. so so yeah. is it the workforce? are they, are they dim and idle? is it the management, are they dim and idle? yeah. we spend billions on it. is that it? we have the dearest rail fares across europe. so what is the explanation? >> i have no idea. but explanation? >> i have no idea . but talking >> i have no idea. but talking of dim and idle, let's move on to our main story of the evening because i want to talk about these mps , 12 of them apparently these mps, 12 of them apparently caught up in a naked honey trap. cyber sex sting. now, when i realised it was you tonight, kelvin, i thought bingo because, well, you thought i'd get caught immediately. no, that's not why i was going with that. because i

thought you, as an ex tabloid journalist, there was a time when journalists might have done this kind of thing, perhaps officially or unofficially . officially or unofficially. maybe you send a young reporter, a pretty girl into a bar. no no, nothing you're prepared to admit. honest >> to be honest with you. the truth about the matter. in my day, people were always throwing themselves at pop stars and the like anyway, right. and you didn't have to go in for this. this is a ridiculous story. what politicians is going to fall for somebody who they've never heard of, sending them a picture of themselves with no clothes on, at least 12 at the moment. >> kelvin, this is the depressing thing about it. >> they weren't caught by it, were they? didn't they didn't they go to the cops over it and said, that's that's what's happened to me ? happened to me? >> it seems like and as we >> no, it seems like and as we say, this is day one this say, this is day one of this story. and i expect it's going to run, apparently they to run and run, apparently they got emails individuals got emails from individuals going under the aliases of abbie

or charlie, and they're all men. there's some straight men, some gay and they were sent gay men, and they were sent emails that seemed very innocuous. hi. great to meet you at that westminster event last week, hope everything works out with x. they had enough detail in there to seem plausible . in there to seem plausible. well, some of the mps and the political staffers who've been approached about this said that they then felt embarrassed . they they then felt embarrassed. they couldn't remember meeting this person because, of course, you meet loads of people at those dos. so they've gone, oh, i didn't remember quite meeting them, then they've emailed them, but then they've emailed back they've said, oh, back and then they've said, oh, you quite enjoyed having you know, i quite enjoyed having a little flirt with you at the party and they've gone, oh, i can't remember, but that can't quite remember, but that sounds can't quite remember, but that southey both men, were >> they were both men, were they. i took that, took it. the one of was a woman. one of them was a woman. >> no, some of them are women. oh, are them oh, there are some of them appear have approached appear to have been, approached by it could be by women. well, it could be anybody, couldn't it, who sent the messages? so. >> what of person >> so what kind of person believes this is going to believes that this is going to work? what i presume it's work? and what is i presume it's blackmail. is it? well, that's

what don't know the what we don't know at the moment. be a tabloid moment. it can't be a tabloid thing the trouble now thing because the trouble now with did that. with tabloid is if you did that. yeah, problem would for yeah, the problem would be for the, the, the news the, for for the, the news outlet would not be for the person who fell for the for the sting. that's right. so. so it can't possibly be a journalist based, could it be, more likely russian based? >> well, that's the speculation then, that the speculation is that it might have been a russian, operative , it's russian, operative, it's a syrian. duncan smith has been talking about it. he says the attacks are the quote is straight out of the russian playbook . right. and he's urged playbook. right. and he's urged the authorities to increase security. now he calls it, an attack on democracy . is it an attack on democracy. is it an attack on democracy. is it an attack on democracy. is it an attack on democracy, or is it just mps being easily flattered? >> okay, okay. let me ask you this. were any women approached? no that's because as far as we know, that's because they're smarter than to than to recognise some bloke not with his kit off knowing that he's not a scam. right. because they're probably getting that

morning, noon and night anyway. so, right . so what would the so, right. so what would the russians, i suppose, if they get one hit out of how many mps are there? six, 12 at the moment. yeah, but 635. correct. yeah. they put them out and if they get one hit that is a triumph as far as they're concerned. when you say they knew a, did they know a lot about the people or did they know a little about a little about the people, the kind of stuff you might be able to work out from maybe looking at someone's facebook profile or something and you've something like that and you've found name of found out the name of their partner, you've said, partner, and then you've said, oh, i hope kathy is well. >> i bumped last week >> i bumped into her last week right. it's very simple stuff. >> right? look, the >> right? well, look, the russians it's all russians themselves, it's all they've do, you know , they've got to do, you know, apart from to kill apart from trying to kill innocent in the ukraine, innocent people in the ukraine, isuppose innocent people in the ukraine, i suppose this is another idea within the putin playbook and all i would say is, surely if anybody sees anything like this, they know what it is. there's been publication, it came through politico. yeah, so if

they see if they see publicity like this, then they know what to do. either they go to the cops or they just kill it. >> well, it came from two mobile phone numbers, the messages. so theyi phone numbers, the messages. so they i guess can to some degree, maybe they can they can be tracked. they will probably end up but burner up being nothing but burner phones, they? one phones, won't they? but one ex—mp said, just thought. ex—mp said, oh, i just thought. or staffer said , oh, i just or a staffer said, oh, i just thought it westminster thought it was westminster because weird because it's full of weird people. well, that's a bit of a damning indictment. i mean , i damning indictment. i mean, i can't i don't entirely disagree with them. >> well, i was at, at, nigel farage used to . yes. farage used to. yes. >> last night. no weird people in that room. kelvin, as was your newsreader. >> yes. polly. and there were some strange. there were some strange coves there, i can tell you that. >> but you've been around enough politicians to know that there aren't enough good quality politicians. why is that ? why politicians. why is that? why doesn't it attract a better calibre of person? >> okay, well, first of all, if you've got i think there are

there are two significant reasons they're probably three actually. number you actually. number one, if you really something about you, really got something about you, you don't to earn , 90,000 you don't want to earn, 90,000 a yeah you don't want to earn, 90,000 a year. okay. now that sounds like quite a lot of money. yeah, it's money, but if you've got something about you, you can make 90,000 a year, with a couple of side hustles . right? couple of side hustles. right? and if you're really clever, you can probably make a lot more . can probably make a lot more. right? secondly. secondly, your life is laid bare, so any kind of kind of question mark about you, your personality, your relationship, expect to read it or see it somewhere, right? so why would you do that for 90,000 a year? thirdly and this will probably come as a shock to you to your viewers, they work hard. yeah. it is long hours and long days and. all right, yeah. it is long hours and long days and. all right , they go days and. all right, they go back to their home, wherever their home is, and they're walking down the street, and there'll be some idiot across

there'll be some idiot across the road. so. yeah. you. yeah, i hate you. why did you vote like that? and or or actually, you get the other side. i just want to say thank you very much indeed. but you're never off duty and all your actions are on duty and all your actions are on duty and all your actions are on duty and can be reported. so why on earth ? why on earth? in this on earth? why on earth? in this world, especially with social media now , why on earth would media now, why on earth would you. would you give up all your give up your life to help people and change the world? >> kelvin , and to do good things >> kelvin, and to do good things for your country and be driven by a need to improve things for everybody. >> yes, there will be people like that, but i would suspect they're in the minority. >> you met many right? aaron bastani has hot footed it into the building, apparently, so he's going to be joining us any minute now. but still to come. junk food consumption is up by 50% lockdown. so now new 50% since lockdown. so now new clinics for overweight children are why are we eating are opening. why are we eating so much more fast food? how do we reset our relationship with

? >> 7- >> all ? >> all right. >> all right. >> good evening. it's dewbs & co. >> good evening. it's dewbs& co. but with me bev turner tonight, while michelle is on her easter holidays. keeping me company until seven. editor until seven. former editor of the and the sun, kelvin mackenzie. and he's us. co—founder he's now joined us. co—founder of novara media. aaron bastani hideous journey in aaron awful. >> i was raised to think that being on time was late , so god being on time was late, so god knows what i was. >> oh well. we had a little chat about the state of the trains in this country, but listen, let's move to other story. so move on to this other story. so this about the fact that this is about the fact that after appears we after lockdown, it appears we all habit for all developed a habit for takeaways and for eating too much and forjust sending a message on our phone and to having the food arrive at our house. i mean, i knew it was going to be bad after lockdowns, but i didn't think we'd be consuming 50% more calories via takeaways. doing it? aaron? >> it's just an extraordinary number, look, number, isn't it? because, look, the these horror the press likes these horror stories, you excited to get stories, get you excited to get your eyeballs 50% increase

your eyeballs put a 50% increase in the use of takeaways by calories 2019 today. calories from 2019 to today. there's sign that it's going there's no sign that it's going to reverse. and i think with covid, we got this intersection of the technology, which was there before uber eats, deliveroo, and then this moment, which really changed consumer habits, possibly forever . and i habits, possibly forever. and i can't lie, i never, ever, ever got takeaways before covid. but these apps have become so commonplace now, you might get a £10 off voucher through your email and you say to your other half, well, let's just have this. you know, it might even be moderately healthy for a takeaway. but even for takeaway. yeah. but even for somebody myself never somebody like myself who never used absolutely. used to get them, absolutely. it's radar more. and it's it's on our radar more. and it's not good. one of the list not good. it's one of the list of behavioural changes. >> like you say, think it >> and like you say, i think it will be forever. i can't see how we go kelvin to. we go back kelvin to. >> well, i think that i'm puzzled. right. so where i live, the postcodes can get mixed up. so therefore i don't have deliveroo. i am honestly looking at this face. i'm old. i

actually go out and pick up the food myself. really? you've met somebody ? yes, thank you very somebody? yes, thank you very much. anyway, so the so the bottom line on this is i know a shocking example of this . this shocking example of this. this is based up in newcastle family , is based up in newcastle family, right down on their luck. got no money. they've got no work, nothing. right no, it's not rupert murdoch and the. and what do they do down the road from them? about 80, 80 yards away is a mcdonald's. them? about 80, 80 yards away is a mcdonald's . and they have a mcdonald's. and they have deliveroo's at brought in to them. okay. now i know this 101% right. i don't spend my time with this family. but i do know of this. yeah. and this is another aspect of the world we're in. and i wonder whether actually, if you looked at it as actually, if you looked at it as a class system and i know this is your this is one of your phd areas, right? if you look this is a class system. would you

actually say that the people at the bottom of the pile are actually spending a bigger percentage of their income on takeaways and also potentially putting on huge weights in this in this piece about this, about these very fat kids. are you i'm not even sure you're allowed to say that, but very fat kids, you are here, right? the average. did you see the average weight? the weight was stone. the average weight was 19 stone. >> crazy yeah. >> yeah. crazy yeah. >> yeah. crazy yeah. >> honestly, that is a major health issue. no matter which part is in power, whether it's the communist or the or whatever. so i, i, i, i think i whatever. so i, i, i, i think i what can you do. why is it that parents aren't saying you're not having a triple burger with extra fries? >> that's the issue, isn't it? it's parents as well, aaron, isn't it? not saying to kids you can't have that. i sat and watched some family and easter weekend . and don't get me wrong, weekend. and don't get me wrong, i know it's difficult. i've got three teens. it's really hard to

educate them on what they should and shouldn't eat. and actually by the time they're teenagers, it's late. you've got to it's too late. you've got to start. when they're babies, you've start when they're you've got to start when they're toddlers, just educating their palate. but i watched this family weekend and the family at easter weekend and the kids but kids were obviously full, but mum had bought ice creams and chocolate and was saying to them the kids wanted to run around, but she was saying, come and finish your ice cream, come and finish your ice cream, come and finish your ice cream, come and finish your chocolate, come and finish your chocolate, come and finish cream and sat finish your ice cream and i sat there and was thinking, they there and i was thinking, they obviously don't want it, but it's almost like some it's almost like for some families and it a socio families and maybe it is a socio economic of them economic thing. the fear of them being more than the being hungry is more than the fear of them being fat. and we have to change that. it's okay to one. to be hungry on one. >> all right. it is okay >> yeah. all right. it is okay to hungry. and the japanese to be hungry. and the japanese have a great word this where have a great word for this where you basically stop eating when you're full. older you're 80% full. for an older generation, mother in generation, like my mother in law, you law, she's maltese. you obviously the bombing of obviously have the bombing of malta. she raised an malta. she was raised an incredibly deprived circumstances . so she really circumstances. so she really takes, you know, your takes, you know, finish your plate. get that we've lived in plate. i get that we've lived in a, in a set of conditions

a, in a in a set of conditions of food and material abundance. now for decades. yeah. we shouldn't doing that anymore. shouldn't be doing that anymore. also health, beverly, also on mental health, beverly, everybody listening . everybody watching or listening. we all know this. if you eat rubbish for several days, you will feel awful. yeah. and there are very real mental health problems in the world. i'm not pretending that they can be pretending that they can all be solved up earlier, or solved by getting up earlier, or exercise, eating well, but a exercise, or eating well, but a lot of could be. yeah. and lot of them could be. yeah. and i just say , of course, i would just say, of course, a lot of blame with the lot of blame is with the parents. is that though, the sort of takeaway because of course it's not the fault of the kids . so something has to be kids. so something has to be done. it's not simply a case. okay well that's a that's a good question because some kids are being down right. being kids are let down right. >> but something has be >> okay. but something has to be done. now normally what done. yeah. now normally what happens government turns happens now big government turns around we're going to around and says we're going to have increased sugar tax . have an increased sugar tax. we're going to have an extra tax, for instance, on on deliveries or whatever. yeah. you know so right, right. and then of course then you get the right saying, look that's you're interfering nanny people's

people's right to, to choose their own, to choose their own weight . their own, to choose their own weight. right. so what would you do? what would you do from your end? you know, i thought about this. >> we don't have vat on food, quite rightly, i think you probably would have vat. and we were talking about food. were talking about fatty food. fats it's fats aren't bad. it's about certain kinds fats. kids certain kinds of fats. kids aren't struggling because of avocados and grass fed lamb. yeah, have a vat on yeah, i would have a vat on processed foods and i would use the money you raise from that, which it which wouldn't be much, but it would something to probably would be something to probably reduce everything reduce vat on everything else. so you know, vat of so i'd have, you know, vat of 16% everything, including 16% on everything, including food, unhealthy. food, which is unhealthy. >> mean, we if you go >> i mean, we still, if you go out eat in a restaurant, of out to eat in a restaurant, of course you've still got your vat on your takeaways, on your meals or takeaways, you've but i don't you've still got it. but i don't know how i don't know how you dissuade because fats and dissuade people because fats and sugaris dissuade people because fats and sugar is delicious. yeah, and that's you could that's the issue. you could probably put 40% on. and i just say people who are already struggling with balancing their books, by the end of the week, they're still choosing to have a takeaway, not cook home. they're still choosing to have a takyyeah,. not cook home. they're still choosing to have a takyyeah,true.cook home. they're still choosing to have a takyyeah, true. but home. they're still choosing to have a takyyeah, true. but something >> yeah, true. but something has

gone wrong. gone dramatically wrong. >> dramatically, dramatically. >> just little thing. >> it's not just a little thing. and then, you know, all the doctors are saying if you carry this amount of weight, it does . this amount of weight, it does. and also the food that you eat, if you if you read that, that item there actually is damaging you as well. so it's not only the weight which is a health problem for you actually , problem for you actually, there's a physical problem by there's a physical problem by the quality of the food you eat. so i would like to i'd like to hear from, from from your viewers actually from what would they the answer you try they say was the answer you try and feed cauliflower to, to a kid under under under 18. >> but it's interesting . is it >> but it's interesting. is it because we've we've seen the state, particularly in the last four years, be more muscular and involved in the minutia of our lives than we've ever seen before. and yet still before. and yet it does still seem when comes to this seem when it comes to this issue, they won't still get involved. like they mandated us that we could walk around the block once in lockdowns, you could only leave your house and go for . well, maybe they should go for. well, maybe they should mandate have to walk mandate that you have to walk around the block once every day.

i want that. but do you i don't want that. but do you see what i mean? the difference is they were so prepared. >> you do actually actually post—covid. what is the bizarre aspect ? if my high street is aspect? if my high street is anything go by and generally anything to go by and generally it's people appear to be it's people do appear to be walking in a way whether walking around in a way whether you like it or not, because the trains never turn up. they didn't. yeah that's right. i've got my walk to paddington from portsmouth. that would be a good one. >> yeah, but it's the combination, isn't high combination, isn't it, of high fat, high sugar food which arrives with a motorbike and does walk in anywhere or does not walk in anywhere or doing lot of doing anything. a lot of swimming closed during swimming pools closed during lockdown, never opened again. a lot the closed down, lot of the gyms closed down, never again. you've got never opened again. you've got volunteers with kids on volunteers who work with kids on sports teams , particularly more sports teams, particularly more senior ever senior people who didn't ever come back after lockdowns to run the local swimming team or whatever they were volunteering to that's true. yeah. to do. that's true. yeah. >> has there been a reduction? >> has there been a reduction? >> scoutmasters and things >> yep. scoutmasters and things like absolutely. because like that. absolutely. because you people who might you had some people who might have been in late 60s, have been in their late 60s, let's 70s, who might have let's say 70s, who might have spent years volunteering spent 20 years volunteering at the local scout hut. it was

closed for lockdowns. and then they just think, never going they just think, i'm never going to to do it. so the kids to go back to do it. so the kids again the that have again are the ones that have suffered. to get them suffered. we need to get them moving. need get kids moving. we need to get kids moving. we need to get kids moving as as possible. moving as much as possible. >> know, i found really >> you know, i found really interesting because we that interesting because we did that show recently, we, up in show recently, didn't we, up in west lincolnshire, it was >> yes, in lincolnshire, it was cumbria. yeah. >> was walking around >> and i was walking around whitehaven. yeah, was walking whitehaven. yeah, i was walking around loads people were around and loads of people were thin i thought, is it thin and i thought, is it because they're going to the because they're all going to the lake at the weekend? lake district at the weekend? very more, more very possibly it is more, more people be doing that. people should be doing that. obviously it's about time that families or knowing families have or or knowing whitehaven that whitehaven a little bit that they're poor they they're so they're so poor they can't deliveroo's. can't afford deliveroo's. >> that? >> how about that? >> how about that? >> people look very >> maybe people look very healthy point. healthy was my point. yeah. >> there that. but that >> but there is that. but that socioeconomic issue, poorer socioeconomic issue, the poorer you generally the bigger you you are generally the bigger you are anyway. that's clearly demonstrated statistics, are anyway. that's clearly den necessarily, statistics, are anyway. that's clearly den necessarily, know, tics, are anyway. that's clearly den necessarily, know, but not necessarily, you know, but you be very thin and you can also be very thin and very nutritionally, deprived as well , but i do very nutritionally, deprived as well, but i do think it's partly to do with the parents getting involved. and you said earlier, kelvin, about why don't parents get involved? you have to say no

to your children all the time now because the proliferation to your children all the time nofastecause the proliferation to your children all the time nofastecauseit the proliferation to your children all the time nofastecauseit is he proliferation to your children all the time nofastecauseit is everywhere. on of fast food, it is everywhere. every platform has got a every train platform has got a vending machine, doesn't have fruit in it, it's got sugar and chocolate, and every till it's surrounded by sweets, it's everywhere. so in when we were growing up, your parents might just put your dinner on the table. and if you didn't want it, you didn't get it, well, you didn't get anything else. yeah, now anything else. yeah, but now we're indulging the time. >> also, if you look at the faiths historically, whether it's islam, judaism, christianity, was christianity, there was a measure fasting or measure of fasting or prohibitions on what eat. prohibitions on what you eat. this a ancient idea that this is a very ancient idea that actually shouldn't have what this is a very ancient idea that actuwant shouldn't have what this is a very ancient idea that actuwant when ouldn't have what this is a very ancient idea that actuwant when you n't have what this is a very ancient idea that actuwant when you wantive what this is a very ancient idea that actuwant when you want allwhat this is a very ancient idea that actuwant when you want all thet you want when you want all the time. it's good for your soul, it's good for your health. so maybe we'll see a return to fasting , i maybe we'll see a return to fasting, i don't maybe we'll see a return to fasting , i don't know. fasting, i don't know. >> well, we are, aren't we? it's becoming very fashionable now from a diet point of doing it, it very effective. it seems to be very effective. >> the one of the >> well, one of the one of the big diets of the moment is that five and two. that's right, isn't it? >> that five days eating. >> and that five days eating. two days. >> yeah. and that, that seems to. you can see from my

to. but as you can see from my face, course i have stewed face, of course i, i have stewed that myself. but other people are very healthy. that myself. but other people are you' healthy. that myself. but other people are you look.thy. that myself. but other people are you look very healthy to me, >> you look very healthy to me, get touch at home. won't you get in touch at home. won't you let know. what you think? let us know. what you think? vaiews@gbnews.com email vaiews@gbnews.com is the email address . we're sitting soft this address. we're sitting soft this evening, so it's quite nice here on the sofas, isn't it? chatty very chatty, now british farmers are calling for a universal bafic are calling for a universal basic income. is subsidising farming the only answer to britain's food security ? don't britain's food security? don't go

welcome back to dewbs & co with welcome back to dewbs& co with me. bev turner. we're on the sofa tonight. it's very relaxed. and thank you for joining us, you've all been getting in touch at home, on these honeytrap mps. this is at least a dozen. i think more of them might come out who were targeted by fake emails to get compromising material on them, martin said, enjoying the hypocrisy of these self—serving careerist politicians . and steve has said

politicians. and steve has said so. it's people, not technology , so. it's people, not technology, which is our weakest link in this case. male mps thinking with their nether regions at the expense of national security . expense of national security. don't be an mp if you're trying to have it all. we're trusting our country with these people. and on obesity , we were just and on obesity, we were just talking about the fact that we're eating 50% more calories thanks to lockdowns because we're all now addicted to takeaways, delivered takeaways, which delivered to the i live in the door. linda said, i live in portugal and it is possible portugal and it is not possible to buy clothes over a size 16 to 18. you never see really obese people here. i think it must be because they cannot buy big sizes, john says. my my sizes, john says. my gob, my money, choice, life . money, my choice, my life. right? keep your messages coming. right. moving on. aaron bastani is still here. and kelvin mackenzie, of course. now farmers are calling for the government to give them a universal basic income, saying the post—brexit agriculture subsidy scheme has left many of them worse off. do farmers need more money from state, or do more money from the state, or do we need to leave it up to the free market? kelvin, where do you stand on this? >> not, i'm not. i'm never

>> i'm not, i'm not. i'm never in favour of a kind of guaranteed income. yeah, and if i was going to give anybody a guaranteed income, i'd probably give you probably have to give it you probably have to start thinking about uber drivers well, i'm not in drivers as well, so i'm not in favour of that. the issue here is that, that there are, i think, only 100 signed up to this so far. and if anybody puts you a petition in front of you and says, are you in favour of, receiving money for which you don't have to work or don't have to, then i'm afraid everybody signs for it. so i'm not. and the other aspect of this is that when you get when you're in farming, you you only get paid when the stuff comes out of the ground. so there used to an enormously risky, profession. none of them want to get out of it right ? obviously, i recognise it right? obviously, i recognise that they were damned hard. we need every, every, every piece of food that we can grow. we don't have to import. i agree with all that. but at the same time, i'm afraid the land is

probably worth quite a bit of money. and they themselves have a freedom to do what they want. >> we don't want them to sell that land, though, do we? what do we? have you seen the no farmers, no to another farmer. >> right. and that may be what happens you can't have happens that you can't have these small patchwork areas. you have farming and have to have large farming and they have to be industrial farming. >> go on. aaron, where do you stand on this? i mean the phrase universal income. you universal basic income. are you comfortable with that? that does make a bit cold. make my blood run a bit cold. >> well, it's a very left wing idea, actually. i'm not very. might surprised. i'm not a might be surprised. i'm not a supporter ubi. okay, right, supporter of ubi. okay, right, i'm fan of universal basic i'm a big fan of universal basic services, access to the kind of welfare provision or public services that people are at least familiar you might least familiar with. you might not it, but you not agree with it, but you recognise access to education, healthcare, funded recognise access to education, healthcéprogressive funded recognise access to education, healthcéprogressive taxation, through progressive taxation, which have that though which we have that though we have exactly. eroding have that. exactly. it's eroding in it's growing in in some places. it's growing in others. people familiar others. but people are familiar with in terms with that idea. yeah. in terms of this, where i disagree is that people aren't leaving farming. really farming. but what's really interesting, speak to interesting, if you speak to farmers you speak to their farmers and you speak to their kids, want to kids, the children don't want to do i mean, know somebody

do it. i mean, i know somebody who's the son of farmers. they will absolutely not over will absolutely not take over that business because the returns are it's hard work . returns are low. it's hard work. and the risk thing is such an important variable. here. we never think about it. the rest of us, you know, the rest of the world, if you speak to somebody like an italian wine grower, they might have vines in tuscany. you think, what a wonderful life. wonderful. they are constantly panicking about the weather. it's not going to rain this week. it's going to be too hot that week. and they're constantly on edge. they're constantly on edge. they're constantly anxious. very difficult money. difficult game, not much money. and just from a and i think just from a perspective food security, perspective of food security, i don't know if i agree with this idea. i'm certainly open to it. and i think we should be growing as food as possible if this as much food as possible if this helps there. it's value helps us get there. it's value for money. all it. for money. i'm for all it. >> but that assessment is so bleak. if what you're saying is the next generation take bleak. if what you're saying is the rtheireneration take bleak. if what you're saying is the rtheir farmsion take bleak. if what you're saying is the rtheir farms and take bleak. if what you're saying is the rtheir farms and or take bleak. if what you're saying is the rtheir farms and or theake over their farms and or the farmers who are there now who don't any cash, but know don't have any cash, but know that they're sitting on a lot of land, which might worth a lot land, which might be worth a lot of for housing or even

of money for housing or even a field of solar panels. who's going to grow food we going to grow the food that we need what's the what's need to eat? what's the what's plan b? >> mean, most most of our >> no, i mean, most most of our country i think is 4/5 of the country i think is 4/5 of the country now is basically farmland or something, just slightly less than that, actually. but i don't worry about that, nor do i worry about farmers whose children don't want to go into it. i've heard that same argument about blood on the till in corner shops . on the till in corner shops. right? and actually there are as many corner shops today . and if many corner shops today. and if they can thrive anyway as as there ever were . so look, i do there ever were. so look, i do agree that the word that the two words which will worry our country are food security. after all, having looked at russia and the way that after well, the ukraine was considered the breadbasket of europe. right. and today, you know, there is a kind of deal to allow this stuff to go out of the ukraine and the only reason they allow it is because there are starving africans, as if they don't get hold of that, that grain. so it is a worry for ourselves and we

should do everything to encourage people to stay into farming short of . i just don't farming short of. i just don't believe that it's a good idea to pay believe that it's a good idea to pay people when they don't have to, when we don't have. >> well, maybe. i mean, and of course we'll be talking about this is the state will be supporting our farmers. shouldn't it just be that the supermarkets can pay the farmers a fairer price for their produce? or maybe the supermarkets should be giving them a universal basic income and come to some sort of deal with the farmers, whereby the supermarkets subsidise them, have you ever, have you ever heard of those negotiations ? heard of those negotiations? >> they are at the supermarket, the guys. so people in charge of potatoes or the people in charge of this, that and the other, they are vile beyond vile . they they are vile beyond vile. they turn round to say the potato guy said, well , not only are we not said, well, not only are we not going to pay you a what you want or b what you had last year, what we're going to do now is we're now going to put an advert on television and you'll be pleased to you are

pleased to know that you are going pay for that advert and going to pay for that advert and by the way, if you don't like it, we can get potatoes from anywhere in the world at no different price to you. it is a nightmare job. i knew a guy who actually was was in the production side of cakes, right? he said honestly, he said it was the biggest mistake he ever made in his life. because once you get on to their gravy train of what is their big companies, right, you stay with it. they treat you absolutely shockingly , treat you absolutely shockingly, which is why the government set up a board where independents can go and complain about supermarkets. the problem with doing that , the problem with doing that, the problem with doing that, the problem with doing that, the problem with doing that, as you might expect, is that the supermarkets say, really? you're going to do that to us? are you right? we don't expect whether you win or will you lose, don't expect to get any business from us. it is an absolute nightmare, isn't it? >> nightmare for them. >> it's a nightmare for them. right. take right. we're going to take a quick break now. don't go anywhere reports of anywhere because reports of learner cheating on

learner drivers cheating on theory tests have tripled in two years, with over 1600 incidents recorded . are young people too recorded. are young people too lazy to sit and take a test? and what should the penalties be if

welcome back. it's dewbs & co, welcome back. it's dewbs& co, but it's me. bev turner tonight. keeping me company until 7:00. former editor of the sun, kelvin mackenzie and co—founder of novara media. aaron bastani, now , the number of learner drivers cheating on their theory tests has tripled in the past two years. in 2020 to 21, there were 568 cases of cheating. but in the following two years, that figure rose to nearly 1700. so our young people are too just lazy to revise. aaron, i'm guessing you sat your driving test more recently than me or

kelvin. in fact, have you done your driving? >> no, i've done the theory. i don't drive, you don't? does the driving. yeah. >> why have you the theory? >> why have you done the theory? if you didn't sit the test? >> i don't know, it's just something i wanted to get out of the never needed the way, but i've never needed to we lived london to drive. we lived in london until, what, years ago. now until, what, five years ago. now we have a child, it's we have a child, and it's obviously a bit so if you've done shambles, wife has done your shambles, my wife has to everywhere. to drive me everywhere. >> done your theory >> if you've done your theory test, can you sit test once test, can you sit your test once you've it, have you done it you've done it, have you done it or does only have a certain or does it only have a certain limited amount of time when it's still it probably does. still valid? it probably does. >> a couple of years. >> a couple of years. >> so explain us how it's >> so explain to us how it's possible cheat on my theory tests. >> i have a theory about the theory two aspects theory test. there's two aspects here. there's about highway theory test. there's two aspects here. and:here's about highway theory test. there's two aspects here. and thens about highway theory test. there's two aspects here. and then there's highway theory test. there's two aspects here. and then there's awareness. code and then there's awareness. i can conclude that they've i can only conclude that they've been along. been sending people along. that's right themselves. >> that's is. there >> that's what it is. and there was let me tell you was one guy, let me tell you about a furniture salesman, asif sabir. old. he sabir. he's 35 years old. he travelled birmingham travelled from birmingham to south sit exams. south yorkshire to sit exams. he did it for three different people. three the mates who paid him each. and he got him £100 each. and then he got recognised at of the staff.

recognised at one of the staff. there should a really severe there should be a really severe punishment for he got six punishment for that. he got six months prison. months in prison. >> it should be. >> yeah, it should be. >> yeah, it should be. >> he. yeah, but i think but >> did he. yeah, but i think but then shouldn't, also shouldn't then shouldn't, also shouldn't the who sent them to the person who sent them to cheat their behalf be cheat on their behalf be penalised well. sure. penalised as well. yeah sure. >> i'm astonished that that >> and i'm astonished that that hasn't do you know hasn't happened. do you know whether not? whether that's happened or not? >> as i know, no. the >> as far as i know, no. the thing normally both thing because normally both sides, both sides would get done for he's, he's the one who's >> he's, he's the one who's impersonating somebody. it's correct on his part. >> so took their provisional >> so he took their provisional driving and said is >> so he took their provisional drivfor and said is >> so he took their provisional drivfor ofand said is >> so he took their provisional drivfor of his said is >> so he took their provisional drivfor of his mates. is >> so he took their provisional drivfor of his mates. we; me for three of his mates. we must presumably look like. must presumably look quite like. and then they, busted him and then they, they busted him on third occasion. but on the third occasion. but what's going on, aaron? why aren't people . aren't these aren't people. why aren't these young they're young people? i presume they're young. was 35. why young. although he was 35. why won't they sit the test? >> i suspect something like that . it's probably always happened. yeah, but the fact you have social media, you have whatsapp, you have telegram. now people say actually this particular censor is really loose on things. this person doesn't check it. you're actually far more likely to get away with this you realise guys.

more likely to get away with thisbut you realise guys. more likely to get away with thisbut don't realise guys. more likely to get away with thisbut don't they se guys. more likely to get away with thisbut don't they understand >> but don't they understand it's important to know it's quite important to know what a street sign means so you don't the wrong way down a don't drive the wrong way down a street. it's a it's not like sitting. >> no, it's true. you get master. >> it's really important that you know what you're doing when you know what you're doing when you that. you know what you're doing when youwheniat. you know what you're doing when youwhen you say that, let's be >> when you say that, let's be honest about if there's a if honest about it. if there's a if there's a sign which says 30 on it, get the general drift of it, you get the general drift of what speed you should be doing, or lie. i think people or 70 or a lie. i think people know enough the signs and know enough of the signs and that the ones that they've invented today, nobody takes any nofice invented today, nobody takes any notice mean, would invented today, nobody takes any noti would, mean, would invented today, nobody takes any noti would, you mean, would invented today, nobody takes any noti would, you know,3an, would invented today, nobody takes any noti would, you know, wouldyuld invented today, nobody takes any noti would, you know, would you you would, you know, would you know what what a sign was of some the one that makes me laugh is the. and i'm amazed it got through. it is the one about the old deer with a walking stick, with the walking stick. now, now, what does that mean? does that a lot that mean that there are a lot of people walking across of old people walking across the road? and and what makes road? yes. and and what makes them say that? is it because there's old correct. there's an old folk, correct. yeah. but do you take any notice of that or do you accelerate. >> i no i don't accelerate kelvin. no not if i know there's

going to be old people. but also i recently had to do my speed awareness course. on i recently had to do my speed awareness course. oh yeah . awareness course. oh yeah. because i got busted for doing 32 a 30 or something from 32 and a 30 or something from one of the many cameras on the streets, really streets, and i actually really enjoyed really, genuinely enjoyed it. i really, genuinely enjoyed it. i really, genuinely enjoyed it. >> did you learn something? >> did you learn something? >> something from it, >> i learnt something from it, and i mean when and that's what i mean when you've when you've through, you've when you've go through, when driving car when you're driving your car and you understand on you need to understand what's on the really important the roads, it's really important that i think it is important that you i think it is important that you i think it is important that understand that you if that you understand that you if you that over too you take that bend over too quickly, you're likely to end up in hedge, it's the fact in that hedge, but it's the fact that people think they can just get is it just get away with it. is it just about the fact that tech? about the fact that it's tech? >> i, like i say, i think >> i, i like i say, i think people have always done it, but we had theory test we haven't had this theory test for have we? for that long, have we? >> didn't have to sit >> i didn't have to sit a written theory test when i passed my test. >> no, you did. you did get >> no, but you did. you did get questioned about. >> but you'd get questioned by your driving instructor, wouldn't car so you wouldn't you, in the car so you couldn't wouldn't you, in the car so you coui'mt wouldn't you, in the car so you coui'm sure some people have >> i'm sure some people have impersonated when impersonated other people when doing test doing their actual test. test you know, if there was somebody that pass them. sure

that would pass them. i'm sure that's always happened. you seem very it. very relaxed about it. >> doesn't drive. >> no, he doesn't drive. >> no, he doesn't drive. >> it doesn't affect him. what we have you mrs. we should have is you have mrs. bastani we should have is you have mrs. basshe's a very good driver. >> she's a very good driver. >> she's a very good driver. >> shouldn't she talking about it? >> it's a very good driver. i mean, i think also maybe i'm wrong, but think there's wrong, but i think that there's been shift in the last couple been a shift in the last couple of decades where people take this kind thing less this kind of thing less seriously. you can get away seriously. if you can get away with something, do it. with something, you will do it. whereas 20, 30, years whereas i think 20, 30, 40 years ago, it wasn't the done ago, it just wasn't the done thing. i think that's gone. if you you'll get caught, you think you'll get caught, i still people won't do it. still think people won't do it. but now seems to be the but that now seems to be the only disincentive to this stuff. yeah, get caught, yeah, i might get caught, whereas it was improper. yeah, i might get caught, whe know, it was improper. yeah, i might get caught, whe know, you're was improper. yeah, i might get caught, whe know, you're was iia)roper. yeah, i might get caught, whe know, you're was iia bader. you know, you're being a bad citizen. think we've lost some citizen. i think we've lost some some that. some of that. >> we have lost something about that, about the idea people. >> and also the other thing, and i first noticed it in america when worked america, and when i worked in america, and i was astonished about was i was astonished by about it, can go off to it, that people can go off to jail and can come back into society. this was in america and without could, even without and could, could even run or they could run for office, or they could run for office, or they could run business or could do run a business or they could do something everything was something right. everything was everything fine. that wasn't

everything was fine. that wasn't the in uk. this the same in the uk. this was in the same in the uk. this was in the was the in the 80s. the this was in the in the 80s. now now i think we are in a similar position. so that guy there does his, does his six months does three months or months or does three months or whatever right? whatever out he comes, right? hello how are you. hello hello tom. how are you. and can start life again and he can start his life again and have to say don't you. and you have to say don't you. so you get a criminal records check. yeah, but, you know, we're short of employers. we're short employees. wonder short of employees. i wonder whether whether it really matters so much. the guy comes straight back to work again. >> see what our viewers >> let's see what our viewers have saying this. the have been saying about this. the driving cheats. dave have been saying about this. the driviithe cheats. dave have been saying about this. the driviithe punishment eats. dave a says the punishment should be a ban applicant. resitting ban on the applicant. resitting the a period of time. the test for a period of time. the person taking the test for another should fined another should be fined and banned for a period banned from driving for a period of i mean, this guy went of time. i mean, this guy went to prison. dave, stephen says we have dangerous drivers on have enough dangerous drivers on the it if you the roads as it is. if you cheat, then you're putting other road pedestrians at road users and pedestrians at risk. the punishment for being found be found cheating needs to be really big scare people off, really big to scare people off, and lives. sandra has and risking lives. sandra has said, it's simple bev. said, it's quite simple bev. like cheating at any exam, if you get caught, you're barred

from the exam, you can't take it again and you don't get the qualification. therefore no driving license. you mean you all quite strict about all seem quite strict about this? and david said cheats and all should all involved should be disqualified for ten years. second them for life. >> right. well, one of the issues you have about that is. yeah, okay, fine. have seven years, ten years, 20 years lifetime ban . people just don't lifetime ban. people just don't take any notice. they will be driving around without insurance and without and without and without a driving license. and imagine what driving without insurance means for anybody who that they decide to crash into. for so many explicable reasons. so i'm not in favour of long bans. i'm not saying that they shouldn't be banned for six months or a year or something. they'll be they'll that the they'll be they'll find that the cost insurance will be cost of their insurance will be through anyway. through the roof anyway. >> so think importantly, >> so i think more importantly, in driving than this, in terms of driving than this, probably mobile phones, probably is mobile phones, because everybody the because everybody you see on the road isn't there. you see them going down the motorway in the road isn't there. you see them goinlane,/n the motorway in the road isn't there. you see them goinlane, drivingnotorway in the road isn't there. you see them goinlane, driving at orway in the road isn't there. you see them goinlane, driving at 80 ay in the road isn't there. you see them goinlane, driving at 80 miles he road isn't there. you see them goihoure, driving at 80 miles he road isn't there. you see them goihour and ving at 80 miles he road isn't there. you see them goihour and looking 80 miles he road isn't there. you see them goihour and looking 80 the es he an hour and looking at the

mobile phone. right, gentlemen, thank much. great to see thank you so much. great to see you, kelvin and you're up you, kelvin and aaron. you're up next i wonder next is, nigel farage. i wonder if he's got a bit of a hangover from his birthday party last night. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar , sponsors of weather on . solar, sponsors of weather on. gb news. >> hello again. it's a wet night for many of us, with spells of rain crossing the country, staying cold in the north. and as those spells of rain move north, well, we'll see some hill snow across parts of scotland, but low pressure well and truly in charge at the moment. one low departing into north sea, departing into the north sea, the low coming along for the next low coming along for tonight . another on the way tonight. another low on the way for weekend. that's been for the weekend. that's been named storm kathleen by met eireann strongest eireann because the strongest winds ireland . winds will be across ireland. but it will be a windy night tonight with outbreaks heavy tonight with outbreaks of heavy and persistent rain, particularly western particularly for western hills of at first and then of britain at first and then into scotland by dawn. that rain through the central belt could cause issues, above 200 cause some issues, and above 200 250m we're going to see some snow building up north of the

central belts, and so that could affect some higher routes of central scotland during the morning, up to ten centimetres in places. that does peter in places. but that does peter out the morning . and by out through the morning. and by the some brighter out through the morning. and by the emerge,ome brighter out through the morning. and by the emerge, especially:er out through the morning. and by the emerge, especially across spells emerge, especially across parts of england and wales, where also be where there'll also be some heavy showers and it will stay blustery, the wind blustery, although the wind coming from the south will lead to temperatures of 18 celsius or so across parts of the southeast. in scotland it stays cold and it's another wet start for scotland on saturday morning. spells of rain moving north once again, followed by showers and it's a windy day, those winds peaking in western parts the uk at 50 to 70 parts of the uk at 50 to 70 miles an hour, leading to big waves leading to disruption in places. but it's also going to be relatively warm with some brightness the afternoon. and brightness by the afternoon. and in of england, highs of in the east of england, highs of 20 to 22 celsius looks like things are heating up. >> boxt boilers sponsor of weather on

gb news. >> good evening. did rishi sunak say he might consider leaving the echr? we will examine that very closely. i'm joined by steve gallant, hero of the london bridge terror attacks, who talks to us about rapid islamization in britain's prisons and what it could mean for our community. and i'm joined on talking pints by celebrity hairdresser nicky clarke . i wonder what he's going clarke. i wonder what he's going to recommend for me. i wonder. i haven't changed my hair in 50 years. we'll have to see. but before all of that, let's get the news with polly middlehurst. >> nigel, thanks very much indeed. let's start this

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