gb news. >> good evening. did rishi sunak say he might consider leaving the echr? we say he might consider leaving the echr.7 we will examine that very closely. i'm joined by steve gallant, hero of the london bridge terror attacks, who talks to us about rapid islamization in britain's prisons and what it could mean for our community. and i'm joined on talking pints by celebrity hairdresser nicky clarke . i wonder what he's going clarke. i wonder what he's going to recommend for me. i wonder. i haven't changed my hair in 50 years. we'll have to see. but before all of that, let's get the news with polly middlehurst. >> nigel, thanks very much indeed. let's start this

bulletin with some breaking news that's just coming to us from greater manchester police. we understand a teenage boy has been seriously injured after he was stabbed in manchester. we understand it happened in the moss side area of the city. police were called to the scene shortly after 4:00 after the stabbing. the boy, whose age isn't known, has been taken to hospital with life threatening injuries. no arrests made as yet. as far as we understand it. but investigation is now underway, police appealing underway, with police appealing for forward. for witnesses to come forward. we'll to date on we'll keep you up to date on events manchester and indeed events in manchester and indeed the moss side area of the city throughout the evening here on gb in other news, gb news now. in other news, today, says it will today, israel says it will adjust tactics in the gaza adjust its tactics in the gaza war after killing seven aid workers in airstrikes after its military admitted it had been a major mistake. british nationals john chapman, james henderson and james kirby were all working for the charity world food kitchen, which has demanded an independent investigation. meanwhile here more than 600

british legal experts, including three former supreme court judges, are now calling on the uk to stop selling arms to israel. and there are reports within the last half hour this evening that civil servants at the department for business and trade are threatening to take strike action to prevent more british weapons being used on the people of gaza . in other the people of gaza. in other news today, the prime minister has said britain could pull out of the european convention on human rights if it obstructs the government's rwanda plan. rishi sunak says controlling illegal migration is more important than membership of the echr, and he wouldn't let a foreign court interfere in sovereign matters . interfere in sovereign matters. and the other main story on gb news today, the mastermind of an armed robbery in yorkshire 19 years ago that ended up in the death of a police officer , has death of a police officer, has been found guilty of her murder. if you're watching on television footage has been released showing the two police officers as responded to the

as they responded to the emergency call. arriving at the scene of the armed robbery in 2005, 38 year old sharon beshenivsky died after she interrupted that raid, which took place at a travel agents in bradford. she'd only been a police officer for nine months. piran ditta khan flew to pakistan two months after that murder , and remained at large murder, and remained at large until he was arrested by police in 2020. judges have been advised to consider more lenient sentences for offenders from depnved sentences for offenders from deprived or difficult backgrounds. the sentencing council, which sets guidelines for judges and magistrates, has, forjudges and magistrates, has, forjudges and magistrates, has, for the very first time outlined mitigating factors that it says courts should consider before handing down a sentence. they include poverty, low levels of education, discrimination and insecure housing. but critics say the law should treat everyone equally with the justice secretary today describing the guidelines as both patronising and inaccurate. that's your news for the latest

stories, do sign up to gb news alerts. scan that qr code on your screen or go to gb news. carmelites . carmelites. >> well, i missed you all last night. yes there was a clip at the very top of the show, but it was my 60th birthday and there was my 60th birthday and there was a little party being held down in canary wharf, and i was really touched and really honoured this video honoured to get this video message . message. >> very special. happy birthday to my friend nigel and a very happy 60th birthday. you look great, nigel. i tell you, i was just with you and you look great. you have truly been a pivotal voice all over the world, in the united kingdom and beyond. and everybody is lucky to have you. you're a real champion, and you've championed the cause of defending freedom, reclaiming sovereignty , reclaiming sovereignty, protecting our borders, and standing up to the corruption of the globalists who want to

destroy your country and our country . already you've earned country. already you've earned your place in history, and you really are your a historic figure. as a prophetic leader. and i know that the people of the uk are grateful for your patriotism and service. in fact, i look very much forward to watching what your next move is going to be. nigel. it's going to be an interesting one, but you're not done yet and hopefully the best is yet to come. so nigel, enjoy this day and congratulations on a truly remarkable 60 years on earth. your achievements have been incredible. happy birthday . incredible. happy birthday. >> wow. i was really, really touched that he took the time to do that. so yeah, i had a great evening, it's very nice of him to say that i'm looking great. not so sure that i've been feeling great for the whole of today, but we're okay now. whilst all this was going on last rishi sunak last night, rishi sunak was being interviewed by cole, being interviewed by harry cole, the editor of the sun the political editor of the sun newspaper. have a look at what he had to say about his rwanda bill and european court of

bill and the european court of human rights. >> i believe that asking him, including the rwanda part of it all, our plans to tackle illegal migration. let me just answer the question, harry. i believe that our plans are compliant with all our international obligations, including the echr. but i believe but not all right. i believe that security and that border security and controlling illegal migration is more important than our membership of any foreign court. >> well, there you are. it sounded really good, didn't it.7 but did he actually mean it.7 would he seriously consider us saying to the european court of human rights, we can't put up with this. we can't have you stopping planes going to rwanda as you did a year ago. we're actually going to leave. did he actually going to leave. did he actually mean it.7 well i tell you what, i was absolutely certain as soon as i heard about this that what he was doing was telling an audience what they wanted to hear, that he didn't mean it for one little bit.

well, this afternoon we sought clarification on this and gb news political editor christopher hope asked this question of number 10, downing street . and he asked and he said street. and he asked and he said no. did you know gb news are reporting that rishi sunak would consider leaving the echr sr. and the response was no , only if and the response was no, only if the planes were stopped from going, then we would consider the option of leaving. well, you know, you know, let's , let's know, you know, let's, let's just think about those words one more time. you know, he's is he saying he just wants to look at it, or is he saying he really intends to do something? he's saying if it came to it and the echr was the block on the rwanda scheme, we would consider leaving. yes. so we would consider leaving, not we will leave not we will give the

british people a referendum . i british people a referendum. i don't believe a single word of it. i haven't believed a single word sunak or any of his predecessors have said on stopping illegal illegal immigration, i'll ask you, what do you think? does sunak actually mean it? love to get your thoughts farage at gb news dot com i'm joined down the line by martin howe qc , barrister by martin howe qc, barrister specialist in european union law and somebody who has become after a period as chairman of lawyers for britain. but someone who's become, i think, increasingly disenchanted with the conservative party and with their statements , you saw what their statements, you saw what he had to say, martin on the sun yesterday. he didn't really mean it , did he? it, did he? >> i think i mean, i agree with you. i think that this was what our american friends would call a complete nothing burger , if he a complete nothing burger, if he was serious, you know, that the european convention on human

rights has been causing disastrous problems with our ability to control our borders and prevent illegal migration for years , he has had 18 months for years, he has had 18 months as prime minister it was evident when he became prime minister that it was impossible within the context of the echr. and it's, very activist court, to maintain control of our borders. and he's done absolutely nothing about it. indeed, the only thing he's actually done was to sack suella braverman, because she wanted to get serious about the immigration problem. i think my assessment is that he has not the slightest intention of doing anything serious, to stop the boats. despite all his protestations, he will not do what is necessary, at his , you what is necessary, at his, you know, he ordered his whips to get the amendments to his around a bill that might have made it

more effective. voted down, and, resulted in a bill which will be completely ineffective, and i think is a piece of performance art. it's not actually a serious bill intended to solve the problem. it'sjust a bill intended to solve the problem. it's just a piece of political theatre designed to make him look tough. >> it's also worth remembering there are quite large numbers in his own party who believe that membership of the echr is the right thing for us. and they point out that churchill, you know , over 70 years ago was one know, over 70 years ago was one of its biggest advocates . what of its biggest advocates. what would you say to that, martin howe? >> well, i mean, there's a bit of mythology about this sort of churchill advocacy, but of course , what we have to remember course, what we have to remember is the european convention on human rights. if you actually read the text, is pretty unobjectionable, it contains joins a series of rights that

almost everyone across the political spectrum would endorse. but the problem has been not not the convention itself , but this been not not the convention itself, but this a court of human rights at strasbourg that spent, you know, the last 70 years since the convention was adopted, creating whole new doctrines and changing the meaning of the original convention. i mean, one of the most interesting things, important things, is the convention actually contains nothing at all about asylum rights. that wasn't a, you know, an oversight that was deliberate because, in fact, the subject of asylum was meant to be dealt with by a parallel convention called the geneva refugees convention. but what's happened is the strasbourg court has created a whole series of doctrines, and that power has gummed up , doctrines, and that power has gummed up, you know, completely gummed up, you know, completely gummed up, you know, completely gummed up the works, when it comes to trying to deport illegal entrants from the uk . illegal entrants from the uk. >> well, certainly how it looks

to me. martin howe kc thank you again for joining to me. martin howe kc thank you again forjoining us on this again for joining us on this program . well, i'm joined down program. well, i'm joined down the line again by shoaib khan , the line again by shoaib khan, immigration lawyer. and you know the point that martin howe was making is that this was all well and good over 70 years ago. we know why the court was set up. we know what the convention was for. but through judicial activism, it's now on overreach. what say you to that ? what say you to that? >> yeah. hi. i'm not sure what we mean by judicial overreach, really. i mean, if we give, you know, judges a duty that they have to adjudicate cases according to a certain law, then that's a duty they should do that, but secondly, i think, you know, need just know, i mean, we need to just look statistics or the look at the statistics or the figures see it's hardly an figures to see it's hardly an interventionist every interventionist court, every year have two, three, year we have maybe two, three, four at the most judgements against uk. that's against the uk. that's absolutely , terms absolutely nothing, in terms of the percentage cases, only the percentage of cases, only 2, 3, of cases brought against 3, 4% of cases brought against the uk result in a violation or a breach being found , so

a breach being found, so i think, i mean, if anything, that the court isn't intervention at all, it does apply what's called, you know, the margin of appreciation, or basically deferring to government saying, you know, they're the national governments, they know about their country. they know about their country. they know about the community. they know about their society. need to defer their society. we need to defer to and think the, you to that. and i think the, you know, european court is know, the european court is very, precious about that. very, very precious about that. and very, careful about and very, very careful about that, terms of, that, even in terms of, you know, 39, the interim know, rule 39, the interim orders, injunction, orders, the injunction, as they're the uk, that, they're called in the uk, that, you know, became, you know, a huge highlight the media as huge highlight in the media as well, a handful, huge highlight in the media as well, one, a handful, huge highlight in the media as well, one, two, a handful, huge highlight in the media as well, one, two, three ndful, huge highlight in the media as well, one, two, three inzul, huge highlight in the media as well, one, two, three in a., huge highlight in the media as well, one, two, three in a whole maybe one, two, three in a whole yeah maybe one, two, three in a whole year. think in the whole of year. i think in the whole of 2023, we only had one interim injunction against the and injunction against the uk. and that about, yes . that was about, yes. >> but here's the point. the rwanda bill is very much the centrepiece of what the government wants to do , wants to government wants to do, wants to show the electorate that we have the ability to send planes to rwanda. was an unnamed rwanda. and it was an unnamed judge that court at 10:00 judge from that court at 10:00 at night that stopped the plane from going . that's the point from going. that's the point here, isn't it? >> well, it is , but good for the

>> well, it is, but good for the judge because look, look what happened. look at the chronology that now know. the high court that we now know. the high court at time, the uk high court at the time, the uk high court found the to be lawful. found the bill to be lawful. obviously those people went obviously those people then went to who stopped it and to the echr who stopped it and said the supreme court has said until the supreme court has had word, the flights had its last word, the flights will allowed go and will not be allowed to go and the court found it to be the supreme court found it to be unlawful. if those people had actually over, we actually been flown over, we would have had to them would have had to bring them back uk supreme court and back the uk supreme court and not on the echr, relying not relying on the echr, relying on convention found on the refugee convention found that have that that it would have been unlawful those have unlawful for those people have to been flown. i mean to be have been flown. so i mean thank the echr judge. our thank you to the echr judge. our high judge wrong at high court judge was wrong at that time. on that day, echr that time. on that day, the echr was our supreme court was right, and our supreme court proved that. so of course good. and imagine the and i mean, just imagine the hassle and the money. if we had flown those asylum flown over all those asylum seekers spent a seekers there, they had spent a year rwanda, and then we had year in rwanda, and then we had to spend money bringing them all back. need thank echr back. so we need to thank echr for that. >> yeah. so what really >> yeah. so what you're really saying is people can just saying is that people can just illegally pay young from all illegally pay young men from all over who their over the world who destroy their identity documents can just illegally into britain in illegally come into britain in unlimited numbers. and there's

absolutely we can do. absolutely nothing we can do. >> no, what i'm saying is the government needs to act lawfully . the supreme the uk . the supreme court, the uk supreme found that the supreme court, found that the rwanda bill, as it was at the time, was unlawful. and look at what parliament instead of what parliament did instead of actually something on actually doing something on the ground making changes, actually doing something on the growyou making changes, actually doing something on the growyou know,ng changes, actually doing something on the growyou know, waved changes, actually doing something on the growyou know, waved a1anges, actually doing something on the growyou know, waved a magic, they you know, waved a magic wand. declared wand. rwanda is hereby declared safe . sorry, but that's safe. sorry, but that's absolutely ridiculous. that's such childish, immature thing such a childish, immature thing to do. the point is, you liaise with rwanda, liaise with the with rwanda, you liaise with the courts, work collaboratively courts, you work collaboratively with try to with the parties, you try to make safe. you bring those make it safe. you bring those guarantees before the supreme court. you just court. again, you don't just ignore supreme ignore the supreme court decision, in decision, reverse it in parliament. the of parliament. what's the point of the supreme then? every the supreme court then? every time declares something the time it declares something the government then government doesn't want, then then next day issues then parliament next day issues an you know, an order saying, you know, i mean, so think that's mean, so i think that's completely ridiculous. it just shows government, shows that the government, i mean, government isn't mean, even the government isn't claiming it's compliant mean, even the government isn't clainthe it's compliant mean, even the government isn't clainthe echr.t's compliant mean, even the government isn't clainthe echr. they�*npliant mean, even the government isn't clainthe echr. they failedt mean, even the government isn't clainthe echr. they failed to with the echr. they failed to make declaration make that declaration in parliament. bring parliament. as soon as you bring legislation, court, if you do believe, james cleverly believe, as james cleverly should have, if you believed it was in compliance with our

international obligations, he could have made that declaration. he refused to. he knows it's not compliant either . knows it's not compliant either. >> i think you're probably right. shoaib khan, thank you >> i think you're probably ringutting ib khan, thank you >> i think you're probably ringutting the han, thank you >> i think you're probably ringutting the argument. you >> i think you're probably ringutting the argument. well, for putting the argument. well, folks, heard sides folks, you've heard both sides of the echr argument. very interesting that shoaib khan says, what's the point of the supreme court? i'm beginning to ask that question myself . i ask that question myself. i wonder whether these blairite reforms have just basically handed power away from parliaments and elected governments . overall, governments to judges. overall, ihave governments to judges. overall, i have to say i have no doubt that the echr is completely outdated and that we should leave it. that's my view in a moment i'll be joined by london bridge attack hero bridge terrorism attack hero steve gallant, who's got a really disturbing story about what is going on in britain's prisons

well, steve gallant joins me in the studio now . he's an author

the studio now. he's an author who was convicted of murder back in 2005, was in high security prisons, and went on to become a hero of the london bridge terror attacks. but steve has, i think, attacks. but steve has, i think, a deeply disturbing story. what he saw firsthand in franklin high security prison and he now believes is happening right throughout our prison service . throughout our prison service. steve, there were rival gangs inside this prison. islamist gangs against other gangs. >> yeah, well, you could say non—muslim, predominantly white groups of people. yeah. so, i mean, there's a lot of people. no i spent a very long time in prison. yeah, but one of the first prisons i went to was hmp frankland, which was relatively quiet at time until we had quiet at the time until we had an influx of people being convicted terrorist related convicted of terrorist related offences. at first, some of the prisoners were there, took an offence to their presence and they set about sort of attacking them and stuff like that, and then sort of very light for tat skirmishes started off, but then more started influx into the,

more started to influx into the, into the prisons, numbers started to grow and they started to retaliate. and at that time we'd seen some pretty grotesque violence. i mean, some some guys had oil poured over their head, and there was a retaliatory attack of somebody getting attack of somebody else getting hot, poured over their head. hot, oil poured over their head. and just was bad stuff. and it just it was bad stuff. yeah. it just exploded into yeah. and it just exploded into this large, gang war this quite a large, gang war between two, two, two sides. >> but we've now got a situation where 18% of the prison population are muslim. as you said a moment ago, the numbers in prison are getting bigger and bigger and bigger , and the move bigger and bigger, and the move towards a quite extreme form of islam is there too. isn't it? >> yeah. i mean, my concern is that, look, you know, everyone has a right to convert to anything they want. you know, we have from have a free society, but from what saw in the prison system what i saw in the prison system was converting was people weren't converting because suddenly become because suddenly they become pious. people converting pious. i saw people converting because were because some of them were scared, coerced into scared, some were coerced into that. thought, this that. some thought, well, this is most powerful gang and is the most powerful gang and this i can get this is where i can get protection. and so they joined it. it in my, in my

it. so it was in my, in my opinion, for the wrong reasons. and when i look at those, those figures now, i to what figures now, i wonder to what extent many those people extent how many of those people have reason? have converted for that reason? well, muslim well, 20% of the muslim population white christian population are white christian prisoners originally who have converted . converted in prison. >> they taking over? are >> are they taking over? are these i mean, there's these groups? i mean, there's even prisons of even talk in some prisons of them having their own sharia courts. >> yeah. well, i mean, look, i've never come across that because it's a very funny, dynamic place as the prison system things are hidden system and things are hidden behind doors, you can go behind closed doors, you can go behind closed doors, you can go behind door with behind your cell door with a group people and do what you group of people and do what you want. for example. i hear about that myself, i have that stuff myself, but i have seen of people being seen a lot of people being bullied, being influenced and you people. yeah, you know, some people. yeah, coerced no coerced into conversions, no doubt about that. >> the authorities >> what are the authorities doing? prison doing? what are the prison governors you know, governors doing? what you know, what the prison officers what are the prison officers doing are they scared, you doing or are they scared, you know, called racist if know, being called racist if they act? >> it seemed a lot of >> it seemed as a lot of timidity going on. i in timidity going on. i mean, in one prison, was in a camp one prison, i was in a camp called hmp at the time. called hmp gartree at the time. there i think, that allowed there was, i think, that allowed a number muslim prisoners to a number of muslim prisoners to start in the education start praying in the education block, is fine, then

block, which is fine, but then it spread the wings and you it spread onto the wings and you know, again, know, yeah, know, again, you know, yeah, you're pray. but the you're okay to pray. but the problem these problem was that some of these gangs at five gangs were praying at five minutes been attacking minutes earlier, been attacking people. very people. and it's very intimidating for people on the wings. i felt was it was wings. and i felt it was it was done to appease, but it wasn't respected at all. it just done to appease, but it wasn't respesawi at all. it just done to appease, but it wasn't respesaw authority just done to appease, but it wasn't respesaw authority as just done to appease, but it wasn't respesaw authority as weak for they saw authority as weak for allowing that. so it allowing to do that. so it wasn't respected. and if people have radicalised prison have been radicalised in prison in in which you say they in the way in which you say they are not just in cathay, but in cat b prisons well. cat b prisons as well. >> all of which makes me wonder, what putting out onto the what are we putting out onto the streets? yeah, i mean, streets? well yeah, i mean, that's that's the obvious concern. that's that's the obvious conlarn. look, i saw it all >> i mean, look, i saw it all those years ago, and if i saw it, then surely the authorities saw the lack of action saw it. but the lack of action was profound. i mean, i don't know, mean, i know there's know, i mean, i know there's been some, some efforts to do something but when something about it, but when you look state prison look at the state of the prison system, when look at the system, when you look at the staff, know, lack of staff, staff, you know, lack of staff, you lack of you know, there's lack of attention, of resources, attention, lack of resources, bad morale, bad morale, and it's getting worse. bad morale, bad morale, and it's gettiit's worse. bad morale, bad morale, and it's gettiit's getting worse. bad morale, bad morale, and it's gettiit's getting worse worse. bad morale, bad morale, and it's gettiit's getting worse and worse. and it's getting worse and worse and worse. how these things and worse. how were these things which i saw all those ago which i saw all those years ago being tackled? know, being tackled? you know, it doesn't good. doesn't doesn't look good.

>> doesn't good at all. >> it doesn't look good at all. no. we are covering prisons no. and we are covering prisons on quhe no. and we are covering prisons on quite regularly, on this show quite regularly, you know, prison is there partly to we hope to punish, but also, we hope that people will redeemed. that people will be redeemed. people their wrongs people will admit their wrongs and society . yeah. and go back into society. yeah. it doesn't feel like it's happening. >> well, you know, look, one of the things when you've got, you know, it be any know, a gang, it could be any gang. in this particular gang. but in this particular instance, islamist gangs are instance, islamist gangs who are gaining across gaining an influence across the prison system, you've got you've got come from got two problems that come from that. is, yes, those those that. one is, yes, those those ideas to people ideas can be spread on to people who one day get out. and who might one day get out. and that puts society at danger. and the you gangs the other is when you have gangs , know, holding sway , you know, holding sway on prison it creates prison landings. it creates fear. and when people are scared and about their and thinking about their survival they're thinking survival, they're not thinking about education and rehabilitation they're about education and rehabitoation they're about education and rehabito do n they're about education and rehabito do when they're about education and rehabito do when they they're about education and rehabito do when they get y're about education and rehabito do when they get out. going to do when they get out. the thinking how to the thinking of that how to survive to day, and survive from day to day, and that impacts itself. that has impacts itself. >> now, the prison service that has impacts itself. >> now, thihas son service that has impacts itself. >> now, thihas saidservice that has impacts itself. >> now, thihas said staff:e that has impacts itself. >> now, thihas said staff act spokesman has said staff act swiftly to down swiftly to clamp down on intimidating threatening intimidating or threatening behaviour, regardless of cultural or religious sensitivities , and our £100 sensitivities, and our £100 million investment into tough security measures is helping stop the contraband, which fuels violence and gangs behind bars.

well, we can believe that or believe it not. but steve gallant, you were involved in something very gallant . it gallant, you were involved in something very gallant. it was the usman khan terrorist attack that took islamist terrorist attack that took place on london bridge. and you were out on day release? >> i was, yeah, and it was my first day out of prison. first day? first day. yeah. and fortunately and funny fortunately enough and funny enough, first enough, it was it was my first act of violence in 14.5 years. so stayed trouble so i'd stayed out of trouble all those years. yeah. but thankfully, it was for thankfully, this time it was for the reasons, you know? the right reasons, you know? terrible we lost two terrible event. we lost two amazing thankfully, terrible event. we lost two amazithere thankfully, terrible event. we lost two amazithere to thankfully, terrible event. we lost two amazithere to stop thankfully, terrible event. we lost two amazithere to stop a thankfully, terrible event. we lost two amazithere to stop a little fully, terrible event. we lost two amazithere to stop a little bit.y, i was there to stop a little bit more. yeah. from happening. and yeah, day. yeah, i intervened that day. ended usman dan khan ended up taking usman dan khan down on on london and down on on london bridge and where ultimately shot where he was ultimately shot dead. >> and you went to buckingham palace? >> i did, yes. and i was awarded a queen's gallantry medal. >> you know what, steve? >> well, you know what, steve? they didn't exactly give those out rations, they? out with the rations, do they? so you and you've so well done. you and you've got your in a book i do, yes. >> and actually i brought this as a gift to you. so it's as a, as a gift to you. so it's my book. it chronicles my journey from the beginning of my

sentence to the end, but it also covers some of the issues that we about a moment ago. >> so there we are, the road to london bridge by steve gillan, and it is one hell of a story. i'm looking forward to reading and it is one hell of a story. i'nsteve,1g forward to reading and it is one hell of a story. i'nsteve, thankvard to reading and it is one hell of a story. i'nsteve, thank you to reading and it is one hell of a story. i'nsteve, thank you for'eading and it is one hell of a story. i'nsteve, thank you for joining it. steve, thank you for joining me what a pretty me with what is a pretty disturbing in a moment. disturbing story. in a moment. well, we're looking at food pnces well, we're looking at food prices perhaps going up because of . we're about of import duties. we're about to put sorts foods coming put on all sorts of foods coming into from europe. on into britain from europe. why on earth are we doing it

say. rishi sunak. hints we might leave the echr. did he really mean it ? some leave the echr. did he really mean it? some of your responses. russ says no, he does not mean it. if he was serious about about illegal immigrants , he about illegal immigrants, he would turn the boats around and dump them back on french soil. well, that would upset the french, that's for sure. phil says nigel, if it's that easy, just do it. don't rely on the

next round of legal decisions because we know will block because we know they will block it . it's playing to the audience it. it's playing to the audience which don't him and john which don't believe him and john finally says, sunak is just telling what we what he telling us what we what he thinks we want to hear. he has no intention of doing anything about it. same old story. and i have to say , that was very much have to say, that was very much the view of martin howe and very much my view as well. now now, we've been talking ever since brexit about what would happen to foods coming into this country from europe. and we're talking cheese and we're talking yoghurt and many other things, and we're on the verge. in fact, the 30th of april, for some taxes to be imposed on those imports, this threat has been postponed about five times already. why is it happening now? and do we really need to do it? i'm joined by catherine barnard, professor of eu law at the university of cambridge.

catherine thank you for joining me on the show. so time and again, we've just said we're not going to put these taxes on. we're going to kick the can down the road. why are we doing it now? and what would it mean for consumers as we're doing it now. >> because we probably should have done it on the 1st of january 2021, le. when brexit occurred. but in fact, we weren't ready and it's taken us a long time to get ready. and as you said, we've delayed it five times. what you're seeing is charges, common user charges. if you want the technical terms and they're going to be levied in order to cover the cost of what's called biosecurity , for what's called biosecurity, for goods coming in to the uk from the eu, but also from elsewhere across the globe, via dover . across the globe, via dover. >> okay, i get the argument about biosecurity. you know, we could be taking in food or plants from parts of the world where we have genuine risks when

it comes to french brie. for argument's sake, which we have been importing in very large quantities for a huge period of time, very often from the same producers and the same transporters . there is something transporters. there is something known globally as the trusted trader scheme. so if the brie is coming from central france through a firm that we know , through a firm that we know, what why on earth is there now a bigger biosecurity risk than there was when we were members of the european union? >> well, this is a one of the consequences of brexit. we've left the single market. we've left the single market. we've left the single market. we've left the customs union. and so we've got to secure our own borders , and there's a cost borders, and there's a cost attached. and the question is who's going to pay that cost? is it be for by the it going to be paid for by the taxpayer, is it going to be taxpayer, or is it going to be paid for importer? and paid for by the importer? and the taking the the government's taking the decision? to be paid decision? it's going to be paid for the importer. there for by the importer. and there are charges depending for by the importer. and there are level charges depending for by the importer. and there are level ofarges depending for by the importer. and there are level of risk.1 depending for by the importer. and there are level of risk. and ending for by the importer. and there are level of risk. and eveng on the level of risk. and even if goods aren't inspected, if your goods aren't inspected, you still going to have you are still going to have to pay you are still going to have to pay charge . it's £29

pay that charge. it's £29 a throw, capped at £145. and the fact is , for big business, they fact is, for big business, they will afford to incorporate that charge. small businesses. it comes with a cost attached and it will cause problems for small businesses in answer to your question, why are we doing it when you've got a whole bunch of traders that we've been trading with forever ? well, part of the with forever? well, part of the answer is, in fact, because the french do it to us and therefore there is not a level playing field. and so what you're seeing is that from the 1st of january 2021, the french, the germans, anyone in the eu have been levying charges on british goods going into the eu and in fact, it's been pretty tough on british, companies because they have been subject to charges and the goods go into france or germany, but their rivals , goods germany, but their rivals, goods coming into the uk have not been subject to the checks and charges. and now the government is rolling it all out in order to have a level playing field.

>> yeah, i have to say, just because the french are behaving badly, which not unusual, is badly, which is not unusual, is no my view, to punish no reason, in my view, to punish british consumers. but another point that's really important about you're right, about this is you're right, we're outside of the european union's single market. we're outside of the common agricultural policy , which of agricultural policy, which of course means we could be importing cut flowers and foodstuff from all over the world. and we've now got the freedom to remove the tariffs that were on them that we had as members of a single market. and from what i can see, catherine, unless i'm wrong, we haven't really done that. >> i'm afraid you're wrong, actually. but there's two things. there are two things at stake here. one, the common user charge. the one we've just been talking about is there to cover the costs of biosecurity. the costs of setting up border control posts, all of which cost money. that's entirely different to tariffs as far as tariffs are

concerned. we have a global tariff , and concerned. we have a global tariff, and it's entirely up to us what on what goods we decide to put the tariffs on provided, provided that we impose the same tariffs, whether the goods come from, say, guatemala or whether they come from india, the different rules apply from goods coming from the eu because we have a trade deal with the eu andifs have a trade deal with the eu and it's zero zero trade deal, which means zero tariffs and zero quotas. >> yeah, but my yeah i understand the biosecurity point right. >> of course i understand that. and there are parts of the world where we ought to be very careful. i absolutely understand that. that completely. but that. i get that completely. but my is if we're paying my point is if we're paying tariffs on cut flowers, that are being flown in from kenya, we could if we wanted to just get rid of those tariffs and we haven't done it, we could, we could as long as we don't just do for kenya, but we do it do it for kenya, but we do it for goods from south for goods coming from south africa else that is

africa or anywhere else that is absolutely our choice. >> that is one of the >> and that is one of the benefits, you might say, from brexit is that we can set our own tariffs. but what the charges that we're talking about at the moment are nothing to do with tariffs. they are just the charges crossing. the charges for goods crossing. the crossing . crossing. >> i completely i completely understand i get that understand that i get that point, but i wanted to broaden it out rather more , yeah. well it out rather more, yeah. well you can see why there are many frustrations on both sides of the brexit divide . catherine, the brexit divide. catherine, thank you very much indeed for joining me . thank you. now, joining me. thank you. now, disgraceful. it's been called the ministry of defence, evicting dozens of families from homes with just two months notice. now we have mod homes all over the country. and of course . as you know, there's course. as you know, there's been a significant reduction in the number of people serving in our armed forces over the last 14 years. and so many of these properties are put for lets

properties are put out for lets and the particular camp we're talking about here is bordon , talking about here is bordon, which is down on the surrey, hampshire borders , and colin and hampshire borders, and colin and cofinne hampshire borders, and colin and corinne hall are tenants who are being evicted with a very, very short notice period. and i think they're pretty upset about it. give us your story, folks. please >> good evening. nigel. nigel two weeks ago we had two brown envelopes put up on our door on our floor, which were eviction notices for two months notice. out of the . blue we didn't know out of the. blue we didn't know anything about it. was coming up. couldn't believe it. absolutely devastated. i'm 78. my absolutely devastated. i'm 78. my corrine here is 74, my wife corrine here is 74, stricken with arthritis myself. corrine has got her health problems , but we weren't the problems, but we weren't the only ones. there were other people. at least ten other families down the road and lots more around the area and in the

country, as you so rightly say , country, as you so rightly say, it's just absolutely devastating. and we really don't know what to do, quite honestly. there's no places around here we can go to we don't feel up to at our age. we certainly don't feel up to moving , our age. we certainly don't feel up to moving, moving around much at all. it's there's families with young children along the road, nigel, who are also being evicted. >> they're not evicting the service personnel. the few, 2 or 3 families of service personnel. it's a non service personnel. like us. and the people down the road have got young children who they're trying to chuck out. yeah. and they will be taking who will be taking this accommodation because you're not the mod housing the first military mod housing complex this has happened to. >> so who is going to be moving into these houses. >> well, don't know . i mean, >> well, we don't know. i mean, there is history here. there is history here between you and me , history here between you and me, the gatepost, perhaps i don't

mention it, but we do mention it . immigrants. >> yeah, well , . immigrants. >> yeah, well, i think the word that would be used would be either refugees or asylum seekers. but you're absolutely right. that is what is going on in your case. i'm 90% certain of it, and it's happening in many parts of the country as huge numbers of people come to the uk and we feel an obligation to house them . what is your next house them. what is your next step going to be folks , we've step going to be folks, we've been to the solicitor, we've taken legal advice , basically we taken legal advice, basically we just had an initial meeting. we really don't know what to do, neighbours have been to estate agents in the area and there's nothing available . nothing available. >> yeah, absolutely nothing around here. >> and you know what do you do? >> and you know what do you do? >> i've got a publishing contract. i've got to actually get 90,000 words to my publisher by christmas. i mean, this is history. imperial russian history. imperial russian history. and it's not something that you can knock off in five

minutes. i've got two bedrooms here, a full of an archive. how are we going to move all that in five minutes? >> colin and corinne , i >> colin and corinne, i absolutely understand your frustration . and you're upset. frustration. and you're upset. and i feel even sorrier for those down the road. were young kids because what a nightmare they're facing. yeah, i'm. >> that's tragic for them as well. it's beautiful. but thank you. right. >> but thank you for coming on and sharing. no, no i get it. thank you for coming on and sharing your story with us. now, the ministry of defence , a the ministry of defence, a spokesperson has said civilian tenants rent homes that are tenants who rent homes that are temporarily not required for service personnel, sign up to two months notice to vacate. sublets are always offered on short time basis only and cannot be considered as alternate source of social and alternate source of social and alternate source of social housing. well, it's all well and good to say that, isn't it? but actually, these are people, you know, paying these are people, you know, paying rents out of their own

money. and i understand their frustration now , i've got to frustration now, i've got to tell you, i'd never heard of a celebrity hairdresser until the mid 1990s, when a bloke called nicky clark came along and he seems to be around many decades later, and he has done the hair of some of the most famous people in the world. we'll ask him about his career, how he became a celebrity hairdresser, and what his recommendation for me would be on patrick christys tonight, nine till 11 pm. far left radical groups are merging. >> we have a gb news exclusive on an unholy alliance about to wreak havoc on britain's streets. the argentinian president is pledging to take over the falkland islands. we go live to the falkland islands . live to the falkland islands. plus, you believe rishi sunak when he says nothing is more important to him than protecting our borders. the reform mp lee anderson gives his damning verdict. don't miss patrick christys tonight, 9 to 11 pm.

i >> -- >> my first hm >> my first ever time celebrity hairdresser in the mid 1990s. i think it was with reference to lady diana. i thought, what on earth is a celebrity hairdresser? but he's here in the studio with me and his nicky clark. nicky, welcome. cheers to talking your talking pints. now your background , old kent road, background, old kent road, elephant and castle. yeah, yeah . elephant and castle. yeah, yeah. big family. yeah. i mean, my not a lot of money. yeah >> no, not not a lot of money. but actually you don't really. no, no any different. you know the fact is when i say to people we had no bathroom and you'd go to the public baths and, you know, i just think, oh my god, what is that all about? i mean, but actually we didn't see it like at all. i mean, it was like that at all. i mean, it was just it a great place to just it was a great place to real sense of community. mean, just it was a great place to real swere,)f community. mean, just it was a great place to real swere, )f think 1unity. mean, just it was a great place to real swere,)fthink1unit15 mean, there were, i think 4 or 5 members of family that members of our family in that street. know, my mother street. and, you know, my mother was greek war bride. so they was a greek war bride. so they sort came back and, you know,

sort of came back and, you know, my was you know, my father was very, you know, dashing sergeant major dashing in his sergeant major uniform, dashing dashing in his sergeant major uniforhe dashing dashing in his sergeant major uniforhe took dashing dashing in his sergeant major uniforhe took the dashing dashing in his sergeant major uniforhe took the uniform ing dashing in his sergeant major uniforhe took the uniform off, when he took the uniform off, according my mother, it's according to my mother, it's like what happened to the glamour however, you glamour there, however, you know, you know, six know, it was, you know, six children, small two children, you know, small two bedroom i mean, lounge bedroom place. i mean, a lounge that, kind of that, you know, was kind of tiny. and i remember when they, they they rehoused us the they they rehoused us in the heygate of heygate estate, which, of course, pulled course, they pulled down recently as well. and we thought we were moving to a palace. i mean, it was like we had a 17 foot lounge and we had a bathroom. >> but you mentioned that sense of that not everyone of community, that not everyone got obviously, got on, obviously, but people but looked each but people looked out for each other. elderly neighbours were looked absolutely. all looked after. absolutely. all that had that kind of thing. you had common that kind of thing. you had conand1 that i think >> and i think that i think there a kind of there is a kind of a mediterranee side to that as well, because mother came well, because my mother came from know , a big from that side, you know, a big family. i think there family. and i think there is that of community. i mean, that sense of community. i mean, it isn't just in mediterranean. i it in, you know, i mean, you see it in, you know, the community the the jewish community in the middle community, middle eastern community, you see different see it in lots of different where of key. and see it in lots of different vllhink of key. and see it in lots of different vllhink that's of key. and see it in lots of different vllhink that's really of key. and see it in lots of different vllhink that's really kind;ey. and see it in lots of different vllhink that's really kind of and i think that's really kind of what we sort of try and, you know, continue really, i mean,

certainly with, you know, children and stuff like that, you know, sunday lunches were always, big thing. yeah. >> if you go yeah. » ”you go >> if you go down the old kent road different, very different. >> yeah . and that was quite some >> yeah. and that was quite some time ago as well because we were very close where the thomas very close to where the thomas becket i know, i know becket was. yeah, i know, i know the upstairs all the the boxing upstairs and all the rest of it. >> yep yep. >> yep yep yep. >> yep yep yep. >> and, and go down there. >> and, and i did go down there. not actually. and it not so long ago actually. and it really very different. not so long ago actually. and it r> i guess that background >> i guess from that background you teenager. you to you were a teenager. you want to become a hairdresser? yeah. that must a difficult call. >> yeah, that one was a really good a really good call. my dad went, what? i mean, went, oh my god, what? i mean,

it just very funny and it was just very funny and certainly point view certainly from the point of view of, you know, this was the early 70s. yeah. so it wasn't really the kind of the choice of most that most people would do. >> no, but you did. and why? >> no, but you did. and why? >> i don't know, actually. i mean, actually, i went to a grammar didn't do grammar school and i didn't do as the final, exams. and as well in the final, exams. and i was of forced into sort i was kind of forced into sort of and you suddenly go , of leaving and you suddenly go, oh, no idea what to do here. really? yeah. but the idea of doing something in fashion and, you really i you know, i really kind of, i know that given some know that i was given some really good actually, by really good advice, actually, by somebody just start somebody that said, just start at don't necessarily at the bottom, don't necessarily go know, or go to, you know, college or whatever not it not be whatever not it may not be anything wrong those, but anything wrong with those, but just the bottom, go to just start at the bottom, go to the place can and start the best place you can and start sweeping floor. i wonder sweeping the floor. i wonder whether few more that whether a few more kids that i should follow that, because i wonder you're really wonder that if you're really academic, place academic, then uni is the place you should go . you should go. >> you're not, i wonder >> but if you're not, i wonder what just wasting three what you're just wasting three years you? years of your life, aren't you? >> know, i mean, i've >> i don't know, i mean, i've got strange because got a very strange view because i sister was the only i mean, my sister was the only one us went to went to one of us that went to went to university. in fact, i found out not so long ago she was the

first get first first person to get a first class in the in class honours degree in the in this woman, first, this country, a woman, first, first woman. brilliant, but, i don't know. you know, both my children did and they're in finance. my older children, who knows the who what knows what the who knows what the four and the six year old is troublesome, isn't it? >> now, you and leslie set up your own business. you borrow 20 grand from the bank. yeah. you're probably terrified when you start , aren't you? you start, aren't you? >> know what? you probably >> you know what? you probably don't there was don't know it, but there was a scene in, the movie shampoo where. julie. julie christie and warren beatty, you know, he goes to the bank manager, and the bank manager says , what you to the bank manager, and the bankwhatager says , what you to the bank manager, and the bankwhat kind;ays , what you to the bank manager, and the bankwhat kind ofs , what you to the bank manager, and the bankwhat kind of collateral you got? what kind of collateral have and he says, i've have you got? and he says, i've got you know, it was just got heads. you know, it was just a line, it was very, a great line, but it was very, very similar. when i left where i was before john frieda, it i was before at john frieda, it was press on me was i had all the press on me and was a bit like kind of and it was a bit like kind of this madness going on. so we had all these tons publicity . so all these tons of publicity. so we into the bank we actually go into the bank and, you leslie this and, you know, leslie did this wonderful plan they and, you know, leslie did this won�*of'ful plan they and, you know, leslie did this won�*of'ful well, plan they and, you know, leslie did this won�*of'ful well, you an they and, you know, leslie did this won�*of'ful well, you know, they sort of said, well, you know, what you she said, what have you got? and she said, like just open it was like this and just open it was

and wasn't sort small and it wasn't sort of small things. like front page things. it was like front page of times. it was. yeah, two, of the times. it was. yeah, two, two half pages in the financial times. what's all times. i mean, what's that all about? but guess that's when about? but i guess that's when you're, doing the hair about? but i guess that's when yo princess doing the hair about? but i guess that's when yo princess diana doing the hair about? but i guess that's when yo princess diana and|g the hair about? but i guess that's when yo princess diana and david hair of princess diana and david bowie and all these. >> you the first celebrity hairdresser? >> think the thing >> well, i think the thing is, when when coined, it when they when it was coined, it was to the was referring to the celebrities, not me. yeah. so i think kind of changed think it kind of changed afterwards yeah, afterwards i think. yeah, a lot of hairdressers quite the of hairdressers quite like the idea that they were now celebrities. >> well, massively successful business. you've done incredibly well. 30 great years. yeah. but the pandemic a disaster for you. >> i it was in the >> well i mean, it was in the sense that the salon we had sense that the salon that we had that in mayfair was never that was in in mayfair was never really money. really about making money. it was always about it being this wonderful showpiece, you know. so of course, when you have a situation where it's not making it at all, you sort of have to 90, it at all, you sort of have to go, this isn't really right for me. i mean, that's not where i made my money, you know, it was always on products and stuff like that. but i liked being in a salon. i like being around

people. you know, as soon people. but, you know, as soon as becomes a thing where it as it becomes a thing where it doesn't work, it doesn't as it becomes a thing where it doesn it'sork, it doesn't as it becomes a thing where it doesn it's simpler. it doesn't as it becomes a thing where it doesnit's simpler. but,>esn't as it becomes a thing where it doesn it's simpler. but, yout work. it's simpler. but, you know, had some great know, you've had some great successes in your life. >> had some and downs >> you've had some ups and downs personally, do think. personally, as people do think. i don't understand, nikki, is how somebody who's naturally very bright, very ambitious, pushing, get how very bright, very ambitious, pushisomeone get how very bright, very ambitious, pushisomeone like get how very bright, very ambitious, pushisomeone like you how very bright, very ambitious, pushisomeone like you finish )w very bright, very ambitious, pushisomeone like you finish up does someone like you finish up on heroin? >> oh, god, i mean, well, >> oh, god, i mean, how? well, i mean , it was a very, very long mean, it was a very, very long time ago, and it was a very, very short period. yeah. and i'm almost i'm not almost almost i mean, i'm not almost i'm utterly ashamed that that just went down that road. i mean, but, you know, peer pressure i don't listen, pressure is it. i don't listen, i know, i think the i don't know, i think just the people around me and people that were around me and it that thing. but, you it was just that thing. but, you know, like, you know, know, it wasn't like, you know, i it wasn't that whole i mean, it wasn't that whole kind junkie and i know kind of junkie scene. and i know that it came out, actually, that when it came out, actually, by accident, was me by accident, i mean, it was me that did it, but, it was almost that did it, but, it was almost that thing. oh god. i mean, i don't really want to be the poster boy for this. i mean, it was like 35 years ago, but you can't it. well, can help can't help it. well, i can help it, actually, you're the it, because actually, you're the

first there you first person. but there you go. i apologise, yes, it struck i apologise, but yes, it struck me a very, you know, me as being a very, you know, even people very , very even people who are very, very successful have elements of their lives that don't go perhaps quite the way they should. >> yeah. >> em— 5 you know, the >> yeah. >> you know, the rehab >> i mean, you know, the rehab centres were, know, the centres that were, you know, the kind of the aa and na centres, you know, mean, you know, you you know, i mean, you know, you just to chelsea and it's like just go to chelsea and it's like when their bottom when just go to chelsea and it's like whe porsche bottom when just go to chelsea and it's like whe porsche had bottom when just go to chelsea and it's like whe porsche had to tom when just go to chelsea and it's like wheporsche had to tomyou when just go to chelsea and it's like whe porsche had to tomyou know, the porsche had to go, you know, it's all the it's like. but it's all the same. yeah mine was not that at all. >> now for me to book an appointment with you, it's going to cost me £350. i've had the same hairstyle for 50 years. what should do? what do you think i should do? come tell me, what should come on, tell me, what should i do? do need a new, modern do? do i need a new, modern look? the thing is, there's always stuff can do. always stuff that you can do. >> be surprised. >> and you would be surprised. it guys that are it is the guys that actually are really much more particular than you i mean, you think. i mean, i mean, certainly , you know, certainly through, you know, lockdown, were saying lockdown, people were saying things god, women lockdown, people were saying thingzbe god, women lockdown, people were saying thingzbe like god, women lockdown, people were saying thingzbe like kindj, women lockdown, people were saying thingzbe like kind of, women lockdown, people were saying thingzbe like kind of, you�*omen lockdown, people were saying thingzbe like kind of, you know, must be like kind of, you know, tearing the hair. no, it's the guys because, you guys really, because, well, you think mean, most think about it. i mean, most people you know, yourself included, i mean, are going to have of the sort of middle have sort of the sort of middle range thing very, very

range thing if it's very, very short you just kind of cut short and you just kind of cut it off, that's fine. if it's long, just gets a bit longer. long, it just gets a bit longer. but most people don't fit into that. so they start to look very, not very, very odd. it's not like they turn you know, they can turn it, you know, tight back or whatever. so actually it was i mean, i did more kind of teaching how more kind of teaching people how to that, and actually to cope with that, and actually it really that was the sort of the thing of trying to get and it was always the men. it wasn't interesting and, and still i say the same thing. i mean, i remember thing for the remember doing a thing for the sunday some ages ago, and sunday times some ages ago, and they reporter. i they sent a male reporter. i always think, am always think, you know, am i going able to my magic going to be able to do my magic as a man? i think this as much on a man? i think this guy was obsessed. i mean, guy was like obsessed. i mean, it it was great it was really it was great because it was a great article, but he more interested in but he was more interested in his hair, i think. but his own hair, i think. but again, i i think people again, i mean, i think people were surprised sometimes it's almost shouldn't almost like you shouldn't be that i what? going almost like you shouldn't be th.give i what? going almost like you shouldn't be th.give iti what? going almost like you shouldn't be th.give it some what? going almost like you shouldn't be th.give it some very,:? going almost like you shouldn't be th.give it some very, very going to give it some very, very serious thanks serious thought. thanks for coming show. very coming on the show. you're very welcome amazing welcome experience. amazing stuff done. now what stuff you've done. and now what do visit people's homes do you do? visit people's homes or they come to or do they come to you somewhere? or do they come to you son no, 1ere? or do they come to you son no, re mean, the product >> no, i mean, the product company what is main part

company is what is the main part of still i still do of business. i still i still do two i just two days a week because i just can't up here. i mean, can't give up here. i mean, there's mean, i'm there's no way. i mean, i'm going to be, you know, you know, very by time i'm or when very old by the time i'm or when somebody don't want somebody says they don't want me anymore. hugely anymore. but it's hugely busy. so i'm at my brother's salon. i've got salon in birmingham. >> clark, you've many birmingham. >> years. ark, you've many birmingham. >> years. arwould ve many birmingham. >> years.arwould hope many birmingham. >> years.arwould hope so.any more years. i would hope so. thank joining us. thank thank you for joining us. thank you jacob, you very much indeed. jacob, what coming up on what have you got coming up on your tonight? are you ready your show tonight? are you ready for hairstyle? for a new hairstyle? >> i've not the same >> i've not only had the same hairstyle many, many years, hairstyle for many, many years, i've same barber i've had the same barber for many years, and he's now well into wonderful man who many years, and he's now well into my wonderful man who many years, and he's now well into my father onderful man who many years, and he's now well into my father inderful man who many years, and he's now well into my father in good. man who many years, and he's now well into my father in good order who kept my father in good order before sort of hoping to before me. so sort of hoping to carry that but am carry on that way. but what am i going be talking about? we're going to be talking about? we're going to be talking about? we're going these going to be talking about these crazy we're going to put crazy checks we're going to put on in the on food coming in from the european union, which is perfectly whilst perfectly safe. well, whilst i was minister brexit, was minister for brexit, opportunities it. opportunities, i stopped it. and for reason government for some reason the government wants more wants to make food more expensive. mad. yes, yes. >> well, jacob, have to say >> well, jacob, i have to say i agree with that completely and utterly. french utterly. and even if the french are making things tough for us, we to behave. that's we don't need to behave. that's right. recognise the >> we should recognise the virtues trade, and we virtues of free trade, and we should it easier to get

should make it easier to get goods not goods from other countries, not harder the eu. harder to get them from the eu. >> , it's the end of my >> well, it's the end of my working day and in fact working week at gb news. back with week here at gb news. back with you on monday. let's you at 7:00 on monday. let's have a look with aidan mcgivern at the weather. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news. >> hello again! it's a wet night for many of us with spells of rain crossing the country, staying cold in the north, and as those spells of rain move north, well, we'll some hill north, well, we'll see some hill snow scotland , snow across parts of scotland, but low pressure well and truly in charge at the moment. one low departing into the north sea, the low along for the next low coming along for tonight. another on the way tonight. another low on the way for weekend. that's been for the weekend. that's been named kathleen by met named storm kathleen by met eireann strongest eireann because the strongest winds ireland . winds will be across ireland. but it will be a windy night tonight with outbreaks of heavy but it will be a windy night toniypersistentthreaks of heavy but it will be a windy night toniypersistent rain,1ks of heavy and persistent rain, particularly western hills particularly for western hills of at first and then of britain at first and then into scotland by dawn. that rain through the central belt could cause some issues, and above 200

250m we're going to see some snow up north of the snow building up north of the central belts, and so that could affect some higher routes of central during the central scotland during the morning, up to ten centimetres in does peter in places. but that does peter out the morning . and by out through the morning. and by the afternoon some brighter spells especially across spells emerge, especially across parts of england and wales, where there'll also be some heavy showers and will stay heavy showers and it will stay blustery, although wind blustery, although the wind coming the will lead coming from the south will lead to temperatures 18 celsius or to temperatures of 18 celsius or so across parts of the south—east. scotland stays south—east. in scotland it stays cold and it's another wet start for scotland on saturday morning. spells of rain moving north once again, followed by showers and it's a windy day, those winds peaking in western parts of the uk at 50 to 70 miles an hour, leading to big waves leading to disruption in places. but it's going to places. but it's also going to be warm with some be relatively warm with some brightness by the afternoon. and in the of england, of in the east of england, highs of 20 to 22 celsius. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on

gb news. >> hello. good evening. it's me, jacob rees—mogg , on state of the jacob rees—mogg, on state of the nation. tonight, the government is betraying our brexit freedoms by arbitrarily imposing trade costs for eu imports. making food more expensive for you , the food more expensive for you, the consumer. the whole point of brexit was to make trade easier and produce cheaper. so why is the government letting voters down? first, it was the right to trial by jury that was under threat, and now the sacred principle of equality before the law is under threat. two the judiciary has seemingly been captured by maoists as the sentencing council , presided sentencing council, presided over by the uber woke new lord chief justice, baroness carr of walton on the hill, considers reducing sentences based on someone's socio economic background. minister background. the prime minister has made his most forthright remarks about leaving the european court of human rights. yet in an interview with