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akua. and for the next few nana akua. and for the next few hours, me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting headlines . right hitting the headlines. right now, this show is all about opinion. mine, it's theirs. opinion. it's mine, it's theirs. and of course it's yours. we'll be debating , and of course it's yours. we'll be debating, discussing and at times we will disagree, but no one will be cancelled. so joining me in the next hour broadcast from columnist lizzie cundy and also former labour party adviser matthew laza . party adviser matthew laza. coming up andrew rosindell mp is my political spotlight this week. he's going to give us his perspective on the honey pot scandal. who would fall for that? really . and if that? honestly, really. and if there's any hope left for the tories in the polls , then for my tories in the polls, then for my great british debate this hour, i'm servants i'm asking, are civil servants overstepping the mark for my difficult conversation? be difficult conversation? i'll be joined by tv joined in the studio by tv personality jessica elvis, who's had over 100 plastic surgery procedures worth more than £1 million. next, though, in a few moments we'll be mucking the week with gb news presenter darren grimes. but before we get
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started, let's get your latest news headlines ray . news headlines with ray. >> cheers. nana 3:01. our top stories this hour. power cuts have left thousands without electricity across ireland as storm kathleen brings strong winds, dozens of flights have also been cancelled due to gusts of up to 70mph in northern ireland and the west of britain, around 70 flights have been called off so far. a yellow weather warning for wind is in effect until 10:00 tonight and covers cornwall, much of wales, parts of lancashire, cumbria up into central scotland and northern ireland. two hour wind swept northern ireland reporter dougie beattie is in county down. >> it hit cork , waterford and >> it hit cork, waterford and kerry. there it has done substructure damage and power outages. the storm has now basically surrounded the coastal areas of the island of ireland. it is now making its way towards
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galway , mayo and donegal and it galway, mayo and donegal and it has come up the irish sea into the east coast here and i'm standing in northern ireland, about 25 miles away from the isle of man, and the winds are picking up. the gusts of the winds are the most damaging part here, and we will expect many more flights to be cancelled over the next few hours . over the next few hours. >> rail passengers are facing fresh travel chaos as train drivers continue striking in their long running pay dispute. members of aslef at six companies have walked out, leaving some areas with no services all day. tilton, transpennine express and northern will not run any trains, while there will be reduced services on great western, lner and heathrow express engineers . work means express engineers. work means there'll be no trains between london paddington and reading the human torso found at a nature reserve in salford, belonged to a man aged older than 40. police say a murder
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investigation was launched by greater manchester police after the body part was found wrapped in plastic at kersal wetlands. the victim is believed to have been dead for a matter of days. dna tests are ongoing to try to identify the man . climate identify the man. climate activist greta thunberg has been detained by dutch police during a demonstration in the hague. thunberg was part of a was put rather in a large bus by officers, along with other protesters who tried to block a major highway into the administrative capital of the netherlands. the 21 year old activist was protesting against the dutch government's fossil fuels subsidies. the dutch government's fossil fuels subsidies . a tory mp says fuels subsidies. a tory mp says he was the first whistleblower to alert police to the parliamentary honey trap sixteen scam. bosworth mp, doctor luke evans says he was the victim of cyber flashing as the met launched an investigation into unsolicited messages on thursday. tory mp william wragg
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told the times that he'd sent intimate snaps of himself to someone on gay dating app and someone on a gay dating app and was then manipulated into providing colleagues phone numbers. so far, around a dozen mps staff journalists as well are known to have been targeted. >> the first set of messages i got was on a day i was with my wife and i got a one time open photo on whatsapp of an explicit image of a naked lady. as soon as i got this the next day, i reported it to the police , the reported it to the police, the authorities and the chief whip. ten days later, i got another set of messages. this time, however , i was sat with my team however, i was sat with my team in the constituency so in the constituency office, so we were able to record the conversation and catch photos and videos of the messages coming through, including another explicit female image. i put my name up to say, well, i hope others come forward. i'm just pleased i blew the whistle, reported the authorities, just pleased i blew the whistle, repoit'si the authorities, just pleased i blew the whistle, repoit's now the authorities, just pleased i blew the whistle, repoit's now being uthorities, just pleased i blew the whistle, repoit's now being uthoriti into . and it's now being looked into. >> nearly £17 million worth of narcotics has been seized by the
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royal navy after it intercepted smuggling speedboats in the canbbean smuggling speedboats in the caribbean sea across two operations. hms trent seized 200 kilos of cocaine following a port visit to the island of martinique. defence secretary grant shapps says it shows the navy's commitment to disrupt and dismantle drug traffickers. so—called reckless tory tax pledges will leave homebuyers worse off, labour is warning. the party says the conservatives ambition to scrap national insurance contributions will create a £46 billion black hole. now their analysis suggests that first home buyers could be £280 worse off each year due to an increase in mortgage repayments. shadow minister alison mcgovern told gb news the policy will harm young couples , but it's harm young couples, but it's hardly fair to put at risk that position that people are in when they're trying to buy their first home, when they're really saving and doing, making these sorts of unfunded tax
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commitments has that effect. >> it's worse for people who are in that position, who struggle >> it's worse for people who are in be it position, who struggle >> it's worse for people who are in be it posto>n, who struggle >> it's worse for people who are in be it posto>n, vtheir ruggle >> it's worse for people who are in be it posto>n, vtheir own le home. >> for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code. it's on your screen now, to gbnews.com/alerts . now, or go to gbnews.com/alerts. now time . now it's nana time. >> thank you. it's just coming up to seven minutes after 3:00. i'm nana akua. this is gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio, and it's time to mock the week. and what a busy one. been this week on one. it's been this week on patrick's jackass patrick's show. my union jackass was this guy, ronnie archer morgan, who refused to value a slave traders bangle on the antiques road show. so i wrote a piece about it in the mail online. yes, i've every bangle here. >> it's not about trading in ivory. >> it's about trading in human life. yes, and it's probably one of the most difficult things
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that i've ever had to talk about. >> i just don't want to value it. i do not want to put a price on something that signifies such an awful business. >> i just love you for bringing it to the road show. and thank you making sad i >> -- >> thank 5mm >> thank you for making me so sad. what kind of passive aggressive nonsense is that? it's called the antiques road show, mate. you're supposed to value things. now, we've sat through your lecture . how much through your lecture. how much is it worth? honestly, at least he belonged to an he admitted it belonged to an indigenous slave owner. so basically, was black. basically, the trader was black. tragic news. we hear of three brits killed an israeli brits killed due to an israeli drone strike. they were travelling in an aid convoy which had just delivered aid in gaza when they were targeted and struck. israel have apologised, but it was precision strike but it was a precision strike apparently caused by a communication error. seven were killed in total and now there's talk of banning arms sales to israel as a result, a move which former prime minister boris johnson described would amount to government madness as this
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week, 400 lawyers sent a letter to into rishi that he had no saying that he had no legal obugafion saying that he had no legal obligation to take action against israel. countering the 600 letters with an opposing view the previous week, war is such a grubby business, humza. useless was up to his old tricks again, pushing through more nonsense legislation , this time nonsense legislation, this time in the form of the scottish hate speech law , which even had speech law, which even had lefties like jonathan pie rallying against it. >> just the briefest of looks at the details of this new bill, you begin to see that it is, at best massively ill conceived , best massively ill conceived, frighteningly vague and therefore scarily open to abuse, utterly unworkable, and almost certainly unpublishable and at worst and unthinkable , draconian worst and unthinkable, draconian and insidious piece of legislation that attacks the civil liberties of anyone stepping foot across hadrian's wall, who expresses an opinion that doesn't fit in the very narrow overton window of what
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so—called liberals would call acceptable . acceptable. >> so basically, you can be criminalised for somebody overhearing something that you said to somebody else who can complain without your knowledge, they can hold a file about you that you don't know about that can chances. when can affect your chances. when you go for a job like a non—crime hate incident that could destroy your chances, or you could wind up behind bars. it's that bad that humza himself is the most reported person. as a result, you can also be criminalised for saying that a trans woman is not a biological woman . the brilliant j.k. woman. the brilliant j.k. rowling wasn't having any of it. she stood her ground and invited them to the laws and ass them to arrest the laws and ass in my view. also this week it was reported civil servants are being offered trigger support if they're triggered and reminded of past trauma which causes them to feel an overwhelming sadness. like, for example, hearing about slavery. really? how have they managed to make themselves the victim? home office staff are also being given mandatory
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inclusion and belonging training. ridiculous we're paying training. ridiculous we're paying for this, by the way. civil servants are also apparently preparing to strike if they don't agree with the government's support for israel. and today we hear that may they may strike because they've may go on strike because they've been told to return to the office for few days week . office for a few days a week. staff from the ons, have staff from the ons, who have worked from home since the start of lockdown, are now refusing to come back the forjust come back to the office for just two days. seriously, who's running this show? them or us? and it would be remiss of me not to mention william wragg, who made the errors of all errors by photographing what i can only imagine were his privates whilst leaving his head in shot. that's my but basically my guess anyway. but basically he was being blackmailed as someone, somewhere has compromising photos of him. so he other mps he gave away some other mps numbers. where do we get these people from? seriously is this the best calibre of politicians we can find? it's been a mucky old week . coming up, comedian
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old week. coming up, comedian darren grimes will be making light of this week's top stories in mock the week. then, at 320, we'll cross live to israel to hear famous mystifier hear the world famous mystifier uri geller on the wall. at 335, doctor renee hoenderkamp will be live to discuss the latest medical breakthrough as thousands of people join blood trials for dementia. could this be the turning point in the fight against the awful disease? and joining shine a light and joining me to shine a light in the political hot seat today is andrew rosindell mp. he's a conservative for romford. as we discussed, top developments discussed, the top developments in politics that's coming up. tell you think on tell me what you think on everything we're discussing. email gbviews@gbnews.com or tweet me at . gb news. so let's tweet me at. gb news. so let's do it. let's mock the week. joining me to do so gb news presenter and contributor darren grimes darren, what a grimy week. >> oh, it has been a very grimy week. >> very grimy. >> very grimy. >> i'm glad you've got andrew
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rosindell on what a time he's had by the way. >> looking forward to that . but >> looking forward to that. but i think what you've said at the very the piece that very start, then the piece that you wrote for mailonline was a really important one, because it seems there's certain seems to me that there's certain items now that simply can't be spoken about, like items now that simply can't be spoken about , like the, you spoken about, like the, you know, this forbidden secret. but look, it happened . and it's look, it happened. and it's also, dare i say, a pretty prescient reminder that slavery happened elsewhere. and wasn't all the united kingdom's fault. actually, the uk did a hell of a lot to abolish that practice. so your piece was great. it was an important reminder of some sanity. i think , needing to be sanity. i think, needing to be injected in the debate. but we were all waiting for this to happen on the bbc, let's be honest. >> i mean, they say po faced as well. the fact that he spent a long time giving us lecture , long time giving us a lecture, which all patiently which we all patiently waited for, then only at the end to tell he's not going to tell us that he's not going to value because and just value it because and i just think, poor woman. think, come on, this poor woman. she looked mortified as the camera crossing back to camera kept crossing back to her, going, ooh, but it was almost like you shouldn't have
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brought me this item. >> you've made me feel sad, you know? that's what he said, trying guilt trip she's know? that's what he said, tryi|the guilt trip she's know? that's what he said, tryi|the one. lt trip she's know? that's what he said, tryi|the one. lt tri didn'tshe's know? that's what he said, tryi|the one.lt tri didn'tshe's it. know? that's what he said, tryi| didn'te.lt tri didn'tshe's it. know? that's what he said, tryi| didn't. lt tri didn'tshe's it. she didn't. >> and the thing is, they make it they've haphazardly >> and the thing is, they make it across they've haphazardly >> and the thing is, they make it across thejitemslphazardly >> and the thing is, they make it across thejitems . hazardly >> and the thing is, they make it across thejitems . butardly >> and the thing is, they make it across thejitems . but it's' come across the items. but it's not, is it? >> no, no. >> no, no. >> well, exactly. >> no, no. >> yeah exactly. >> no, no. >> yeah .3xactly. >> no, no. >> yeah . yeah,'. >> no, no. >> yeah . yeah, absolutely. these >> yeah. yeah, absolutely. these things will be looked at in advance. an episode of advance. it's like an episode of the x factor. right? the judges have seen talent before. have seen the talent before. they actually stand in front of them of cameras and them in front of the cameras and all the rest of it. so yeah, it's all for show and it's so wrong . wrong. >> i mean, not fair. she >> i mean, it was not fair. she was was just, was just a she was just, you know , a sign they could was just a she was just, you kn0\use| sign they could was just a she was just, you kn0\use their they could was just a she was just, you kn0\use their whole1ey could was just a she was just, you kn0\use their whole thing�*uld just use their whole thing to sort to us. sort of virtue signal to us. now, about the now, what about this? the scottish hate crime laws? because i, i'm amazed that it's got through and it's passed. now we are seeing the repercussions of how ridiculous it is. >> you know, nana, i'm not surprised, actually, because the labour leader in scotland, anas sarwar, the as sarwar, is exactly the same as humza yousaf when it comes to these issues where actually mass censorship and this diversity, eqtu censorship and this diversity, equity and inclusion policies , equity and inclusion policies, which i deem to be racist policies in a country that in the last census was 96% white,
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that scotland . they're saying that scotland. they're saying that scotland. they're saying that there are too many white people in positions of power. well, it's 96% white. of course, there are going to be white people in positions of power, because that's makeup of the because that's the makeup of the country. but apparently that's racist and i would racist to say that. and i would fall foul of some hate crime legislation. >> well, he fell foul of his own hate legislation with that hate crime legislation with that exact speech, with mass reporting . reporting. >> yeah. on april 1st, everyone was but the was reporting him. but the labour leader said exactly the same thing the scottish same thing in the scottish parliament. so it's not going to get better under get any better under labour. i think actually they're going to do the same the same think actually they're going to do tiof same the same think actually they're going to do tiof policies the same think actually they're going to do tiof policies which re same think actually they're going to do tiof policies which are ame kind of policies which are draconian, quite totalitarian and incredibly open to abuse. and in an attempt to actually silence dissenting voices of speech. and that's happening in scotland already , obviously, scotland already, obviously, with the mass reporting of jk rowling, which have amounted to nothing what surely nothing. but what does, surely that's working in tesco if she says , actually she's not going says, actually she's not going to call a trans woman a woman,
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then what happens to her? right will she have jk rowling's platform? will she be able to fight for her job, or fight for her livelihood, or fight to get some sentence removed from her name by police? it is name by the police? it is absurd. so absurd. absurd. it's so absurd. >> a trans woman is a man. yeah, it you know. so. so, you know, what are we supposed to do with this? i must lie to appease a few people who may be suffering with gender dysphoria, but actually, most of those people will probably accept it. i've met accept met many trans women who accept that they're biological men. i don't really scotland don't really know why scotland has been moving in this direction for some time now, though. it's been really depressing >> it's been a really depressing trajectory of delving into the sort of depths of anti—free speech. all the rest of the kind of tactics that you'd see, expect to see in sort of the old days of east germany, not china . days of east germany, not china. yeah, not the sort of a democracy like scotland. it's very odd and very often, obviously he's following in the footsteps of nicola sturgeon . footsteps of nicola sturgeon. >> so hope he >> well indeed. so let's hope he completely her off the completely follows her off the
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edge. now this is very sad about the aid workers in gaza. they were killed. or we have reported it. everyone's reported it heavily. this is not an unknown phenomena though. this is not an unusual that aid workers unusual thing that aid workers are being killed. and finally, someone's talking about it. but, you know, and i my sympathy does go to these families. so i'm not saying. oh, well, that's what you i'm not that, but i'm you i'm not saying that, but i'm saying the world has responded in and i'm in some sort of shock. and i'm unsure as to why they're shocked. >> i, ask where was the >> well, i, i ask where was the shock in 2011.7 when? or 2013 rather when david cameron's nato forces or nato allies, including the british forces, of course, were in libya and there were 13 people killed, including two ambulance workers, there was no international condemnation then. it seems to me that there is a unique lens placed on the israeli state, and this is a horrible thing that's happened. i agree with you completely. but two have their two people have lost theirjobs from . yes, that's right. from the idf. yes, that's right. you know, there's been a thorough, full investigation.
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you know, there's been a thorcisjh, full investigation. you know, there's been a thorcis the ull investigation. you know, there's been a thorcis the kindivestigation. you know, there's been a thorcis the kind ofstigation. you know, there's been a thorcis the kind of thing on. you know, there's been a thorcis the kind of thing that this is the kind of thing that doesn't happen. i you doesn't happen. but i tell you what, have got more what, the israelis have got more regard the sanctity of life regard for the sanctity of life than hamas do. i'll tell you that for free. >> see, and i do find it shocking as well, because i was reading a report showed reading a report that showed the licensing for arms, and actually we license a very small fraction, very small, yet we license a load to qatar. they were on the top of the list. and i'm like, well, how qatar are the leaders for hamas are apparently that apparently in qatar. and that means that the qatar are more on the side clearly of hamas . oh, the side clearly of hamas. oh, definitely. with these all these people crying for israel to lay down their arms. we don't want to arm what about what to arm you. what about what about the licensing for qatar? >> absolutely. >> well, absolutely. and there are inconsistencies . i are so many inconsistencies. i mean, yesterday, nana, we had the on street the iranians out on the street and they were campaigning in support jerusalem being at support of jerusalem being at their their mecca, their home, and something that belongs to them, essentially. and that was on the streets of london and they were flying iranian flags. now, iran should be a now, i think iran should be a proscribed terrorist state in
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this country. right. the iranian revolutionary guard, i think , revolutionary guard, i think, are a terrorist outfit. so there are a terrorist outfit. so there are so many ways in which we're being entirely hypocritical in criticising israel whilst also having relationships with the kinds of states that i think wish us absolute harm. >> qatar. we're quite happy to license plenty of arms with them that were the the that were on the top of the list. i thinking, list. yeah. and i was thinking, hang but it's only hang on a minute, but it's only 0.02. that licensed 0.02. i think that we licensed to , so i'm wondering why to israel, so i'm wondering why they're. it feels like they're. so it feels like there's animosity there's a lot of animosity towards israel when they're only trying themselves. trying to protect themselves. admittedly, we don't want a mass death, this, admittedly, we don't want a mass death, seems this, admittedly, we don't want a mass death, seems to this, admittedly, we don't want a mass death, seems to be his, admittedly, we don't want a mass death, seems to be mentioning nobody seems to be mentioning the fact that rockets are coming from from gaza to israel, who are only protected by the iron dome, why they're not. dome, which is why they're not. >> and if france voted in some kind of, islamist terrorist group. right. and they were they had kidnapped hundreds of british citizens and killed 1200 men, women and children in cold blood. i would expect the
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british forces to do all they could to eradicate the terrorist forces in france. how is it any different for a bordering nation of israel? it's been bombard on three fronts in the north, in the west bank and in the south, where hamas are. i would expect my nation to do all it could to take out such an evil . i don't take out such an evil. i don't think they've got any place in any world. actually, i think they are a unique evil. and it's time that we woke up to that because do you think it would end ? end with israel? >> i really don't know. of course it wouldn't. but obviously there is a lot of death destruction, death and destruction, and we're not people not condoning lots of people dying in yeah, it's dying in gaza. yeah, but it's simply the simply pointing out the fact that, kept the that, well, they've kept the hostages, they haven't handed them back and they're still firing so by firing the rockets. so by disarming israel, all you is disarming israel, all you do is make so i'm make israel the target. so i'm not quite sure where they're going with this, then going with this, but then we've got po faced civil got sort of these po faced civil servants almost saying servants now almost saying that we because we don't want to work because just in case we've breached international and not international law and it's not actually directly would actually them directly would have don't want have done that. they don't want
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any liability. so they're saying they carry out the they don't want to carry out the job that they've been asked to do you know, do in terms of, you know, helping the supply arms do in terms of, you know, heisrael. the supply arms to israel. >> yeah, mean, would say >> yeah, i mean, i would say actually it's time that we had an civil service an american style civil service where bring in where they actually bring in their own people because i think it's to me, we get it's quite clear to me, we get told that we have a rolls royce style , impartial civil service style, impartial civil service that's there to deliver the wishes of any government, be it any colour but it clearly isn't. it clearly, absolutely isn't. so it clearly, absolutely isn't. so i think it's time to accept that and then say that some form of politicising is happening already, and to make sure that a centre right government is able to actually enact its policies , to actually enact its policies, because there is a clear, clear, left wing class within the civil service, especially the upper echelons that are refusing to carry out instructions. it wasn't just this example. there are others. >> plenty of others aren't there with sort of destroying with them. sort of destroying government dominic government policy. and dominic raab, they got rid of dominic raab, they got rid of dominic raab pretty much by complaining the don't the home office, they don't want to to the ons,
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to go to work. the ons, they're now we want now saying, oh no, we don't want to two days i mean, to work two days a week. i mean, what this? what the hell is this? >> grip. what the hell is this? >> well grip. what the hell is this? >> well , grip. what the hell is this? >> well, listen, rip. what the hell is this? >> well, listen, darren grimes, always pleasure. so always a pleasure. thank you so much. evening, much. you're back this evening, aren't are. from >> absolutely. we are. yes. from 6:00 two hours. 6:00 saturday, five, two hours. and, we've got in today, obviously , benjamin butterworth obviously, benjamin butterworth albie amankona me. ben leo, and then. well, the fifth, it's a surprise , surprise, surprise. surprise, surprise, surprise. >> thank you very much. thanks, man. it's lovely to talk to you. thatis man. it's lovely to talk to you. that is darren grimes. don't forget to catch him but forget to catch him at 6:00. but now gb live on now this is gb news by live on tv , online and on digital radio. tv, online and on digital radio. coming up, the latest on a possible breakthrough in the battle against alzheimer's. could trials be the could blood trials be the answer? but next we'll cross live to israel speak to mr live to israel to speak to mr uri geller to get an update. this is .
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tuned in. welcome on board. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. now, though, let's go straight to tel aviv and speak to former fire uri and speak to former mr fire uri geller for the latest on what's going on on the ground in israel . uri, good to see you. talk us through what's happening . through what's happening. >> okay. nana, look, it's been a really terrible week. >> there was the biggest tragedy of the war. israeli forces, as you know , accidentally killed you know, accidentally killed seven aid workers. it was shocking. israel recognises that these were innocent people who were just trying to help ordinary civilians. now all israelis feel nothing but sympathy. but nana, i have to say something else . i know what say something else. i know what war is like. you know, i was a paratrooper in the six—day war, and i've been in battles, life and i've been in battles, life and death. decisions are made in split seconds. now, nana the world is accusing israel of
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deliberately targeting the aid workers. but that is just not true. i have sources, and i'm going to tell your viewers right now something which you have not yet heard on gb news. >> listen, just before the incident, a hamas gunmen was seen riding on the roof of the aid convoy. >> there is footage of this now. something happened and it ended up going tragically wrong. but hamas terrorist are constantly using aid vehicles and even ambulances to move around gaza . ambulances to move around gaza. this is a fact and you all know it. this is what puts innocent aid workers at risk. now i want to show you a photo that i think i showed you a while ago. this is me and david cameron. look, nana, i want to say something else . the british foreign else. the british foreign secretary, this guy, david
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cameron , joined the chorus of cameron, joined the chorus of voices condemn arming israel. but. and i want all of your viewers to think about this. and your guest said it before i heard him say this. when david cameron was prime minister, nato forces led by britain bombed libya. he said it and killed 13 innocent people by mistake. in one incident, including ambulance workers . and libya ambulance workers. and libya hadnt ambulance workers. and libya hadn't even attacked britain . hadn't even attacked britain. not only that, but look at america . just two years ago, a america. just two years ago, a us drone. you know those drones, a drone strike or afghanistan killed ten civilians, including seven children? yes, by then was president. and when obama was president. and when obama was president , the us bombed the president, the us bombed the hospital by mistake, killing 22 patients and doctors. there are more examples i could give you too. now, this is terrible. so
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terrible. accidents happen in war. but these things are tragedies and this is what happenedin tragedies and this is what happened in gaza. a terrible unintentional accident. but the real blame nana the real blame lies with hamas. they started the war. they have been holding our hostages for six months and they blend in with the civilians. they hide among civilians. they hide among civilians. look these are the hostages. they're still all in those tunnels. it is six months tomorrow since hamas attacked israel and killed more than 1200 innocent people. they are still holding more than 130 hostages. the world should be turning on hamas. and finally. look nana my heart goes out to those innocent aid workers and i hope nothing like this ever happens again. that's all i have to say. this
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is war. i've been in war and i know what it is like . know what it is like. >> ori i mean, look, we don't know. you said that you're giving us something that we've never heard or about this. giving us something that we've neve there d or about this. giving us something that we've neve there was about this. giving us something that we've neve there was apparently this. giving us something that we've neve there was apparently a1is. that there was apparently a hamas fighter on top of the on top aid convoy . we top of the aid convoy. we haven't got any verified information about that. so we will wait to hear if that is the case. indeed and if that does come but so far, that's not come out. but so far, that's not verified. and we you know, we don't know. okay. but i appreciate you sharing that for the time. sorry. on. the first time. sorry. go on. yeah i will try to get you that footage and i'll try to send it to you. >> anyhow, it was fantastic being on your show. i hope you'll invite me again next week. all. kisses week. i love you all. kisses from the holy land. >> thank you so much. it's such a pleasure to talk to you. thank you. that's the brilliant geller giving us an update of what's going on in israel. giving us an update of what's going on in israel . listen, get going on in israel. listen, get in touch with all your thoughts. gb com you're gb views gb news. com you're with me. i'm nana. akua. this is gb on tv , gb news. we're live on tv, onune gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. coming for monologue
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coming up for my monologue on j.k rowling, who is taking a stand against the ridiculous new legislation in scotland. is free speech under threat? but first, let's get your latest news headunes let's get your latest news headlines with ray addison . headlines with ray addison. >> thanks, nana. it's 330. our top stories power cuts have left 34,000 people without electricity across ireland as storm kathleen brings strong winds. dozens of flights have also been cancelled due to gusts of up to 70 miles an hour in northern ireland and the west of britain, a yellow weather warning for wind is in effect until 10:00 tonight. it covers cork and much of wales, parts of lancashire, cumbria up into central scotland and northern ireland. two rail passengers have been facing fresh travel chaos as train drivers continue striking in the long running dispute over pay. members of aslef at six companies have walked out, leaving some areas with no services all day.
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chiltern, transpennine express and northern are not running any trains while there's a reduced service on great western, lner and heathrow express. meanwhile engineering work means there are no trains between london paddington and reading the human torso , found at a nature reserve torso, found at a nature reserve in salford, belonged to a man aged older than 40. a murder investigation has been launched by greater manchester police after the body part was found wrapped in plastic at kersal wetlands . the victim is believed wetlands. the victim is believed to have been dead for a matter of days . dna tests are ongoing of days. dna tests are ongoing to try to identify the man . a to try to identify the man. a conservative mp says he was the first whistleblower to alert police to the parliamentary honey trap sixteen scam. bosworth mp doctor luke evans says he was the victim of cyberflashing as the met launched an investigation into unsolicited messages on thursday. tory mp william wragg told the times he'd sent intimate snaps of himself to someone on a gay dating app and
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was then manipulated into providing colleagues phone numbers. well, for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts. you can scan the qr code on your screen right now, or go to gb news. com slash alerts back now to . nana. back now to. nana. >> thank you ray. still to come andrew rosindell will be in the hot seat to shine a light on british politics in my political spotlight. but next up, doctor renee hoenderkamp will me renee hoenderkamp will join me to discuss the latest medical breakthrough in the quest to eradicate don't
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welcome back. if you've just tuned in. where have you been? all right. you've only missed half an hour. not a nicie is here. gb news. we're here. this is gb news. we're live tv, online on live on tv, online and on digital radio. and now, of course, in my healthwatch, thousands of people to be thousands of people are to be offered a blood test for
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dementia a trial run dementia as part of a trial run by memory clinics across the country. the hope is that more people will be able to access care and that new dementia treatments at an earlier stage, in order further develop the in order to further develop the fight against alzheimer's. so joining me to discuss joining me now to discuss this is gp and medical writer doctor renee hoenderkamp hello renee hoenderkamp renee. hello rempe renee. this sounds great. this is great. we're breaking through. >> i think we are breaking through. >> so we've already had really good results in test tubes etc. in, you know, laboratories with this particular test, which is a blood test that looks for the protein which seems to be present in people with alzheimer's. >> the tau protein . so this is >> the tau protein. so this is there's two trials actually running side by side. one is going to look at traditional blood tests and some other novel ones. blood tests and some other novel ones . the other one's to ones. the other one's going to look and look at the tau protein. and that's promising one that's the really promising one because all we now need to know is association is with is what it's association is with alzheimer's, because some people is what it's association is with alzhethis"s, because some people is what it's association is with alzhethis"s, lprotein some people is what it's association is with alzhethis"s, lprotein but1e people is what it's association is with alzhethis"s, [protein but don't�*ple have this tau protein but don't have this tau protein but don't have alzheimer's. right. so they just want always what the correlation. maybe there's a cut
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off, you when you've got correlation. maybe there's a cut offmuch. when you've got correlation. maybe there's a cut offmuch. but when you've got correlation. maybe there's a cut offmuch. but whatn you've got correlation. maybe there's a cut offmuch. but what thatr've got correlation. maybe there's a cut offmuch. but what that willgot so much. but what that will allow us to do hopefully is so much. but what that will allovtreatingo hopefully is so much. but what that will allovtreating thispefully is so much. but what that will allovtreating this horribles disease. >> you know, earlier with you know, that somebody maybe have the propensity to have it. >> yeah. so at the moment we actually have 1 in 11 people over 65 will get dementia of some description . so it's some description. so it's common. it's the biggest killer. last year 66,000 people died with dementia . and the problem with dementia. and the problem we have is the drugs we have at the moment. nana don't actually treat disease. they control the moment. nana don't actually trea symptoms se. they control the moment. nana don't actually trea symptoms ,a. they control the moment. nana don't actually trea symptoms , but1ey control the moment. nana don't actually trea symptoms , but they)ntrol the moment. nana don't actually treasymptoms , but they don't the symptoms, but they don't slow the progress of the disease. it will do what it was going to but got some going to do. but we've got some new coming the market new drugs coming on the market and called lecanemab and donanemab. what do is donanemab. and what they do is they soak up this sticky protein. so if we can identify those people earlier and get these drugs into them once they're licensed earlier, we might actually, for the first time ever, be able to slow down alzheimer's. >> they sound like drugs i've heard before. are they being repurposed because were they for rheumatoid sound rheumatoid arthritis, they sound like they're maps.
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>> they're immune suppressors. yes. maps special drugs. yes. the maps are special drugs. i mean, they do wonderful things for diseases , but it for certain diseases, but it seems they do wonderful things for alzheimer's by popping up this. it is good, isn't it? >> and i was just reading here about tnal >> and i was just reading here about trial that's in its about a trial that's in its third enrol third phase, which could enrol hundreds the hundreds of patients in the ultimate goal of finding a vaccine for alzheimer's disease as well, which would be that would be incredible, wouldn't as well, which would be that worbutoe incredible, wouldn't as well, which would be that worbut of incredible, wouldn't as well, which would be that worbut of course, le, wouldn't as well, which would be that worbut of course, you've|ldn't as well, which would be that worbut of course, you've gott as well, which would be that worbut of course, you've got to it? but of course, you've got to you probably. you you probably. would you vaccinate you vaccinate everybody or would you just they've got vaccinate everybody or would you justprotein they've got vaccinate everybody or would you justprotein and they've got vaccinate everybody or would you justprotein and if they've got the protein and if they've got the protein and if they've got the it the propensity to have it because hard, because because it's hard, because actually the biggest risk factor for age. for dementia is age. >> it really is. and the problem that we've got in the uk at the moment is that most people don't have a formal diagnosis, even when they've got diagnosis. when they've got a diagnosis. it's done by looking at it's not been done by looking at their spinal fluid. it's not been with a gold standard been done with a gold standard pet scan of brain. it's been pet scan of the brain. it's been done a clinic and done by tests in a clinic and it's expensive. we don't have enough scanners, so this will get people diagnosed. and as you say , if we can then say, okay, say, if we can then say, okay, you're at risk. let's give you a vaccine . could you imagine?
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vaccine. could you imagine? >> oh, no, i think i think we're about to crack lid on this >> oh, no, i think i think we're aboras:o crack lid on this >> oh, no, i think i think we're aboras well. :k lid on this >> oh, no, i think i think we're aboras well. i'm lid on this >> oh, no, i think i think we're aboras well. i'm so.id on this >> oh, no, i think i think we're aboras well. i'm so pleased s one as well. i'm so pleased because side, because the other side, of course, the social care bill, course, is the social care bill, which is phenomenal. you end up selling your house and all your possessions to try and afford it, the nhs doesn't really it, and the nhs doesn't really cover so it's you cover dementia, so it's you know, it's alzheimer's disease. >> it really is because i see families , nana who are desperate families, nana who are desperate to keep their loved one at home with them. but when they're wandering the north wandering off onto the north circular in the middle of the night and, you know, setting the house becomes house on fire, it becomes impossible. right. impossible. but you're right. the care bill is absolutely astronomical. so if you can prevent them getting to that stage, it's a game changer. >> it's in the government's interest to really back this one, to get behind it and one, really to get behind it and make found. one, really to get behind it and makewhat found. one, really to get behind it and makewhat horrendous und. one, really to get behind it and makewhat horrendous disease. also what a horrendous disease. it just evil horrible. >> it really is evil. and you know you see people deteriorate really quickly. i see patients who were absolutely compos mentis within a year. you know, they're forgetting appointments. they're forgetting what we said last forgetting last time. they're forgetting medications. it's sad.
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medications. it's really sad. >> so how long do you think this will be before this blood test is in place for people to. because there's awful if they tell oh yeah. by the way tell you. oh yeah. by the way you're then. you're going to get it then. there's medicine there's no there's no medicine for you because nobody wants to hear that. >> medicines, mabs hear that. >> ready medicines, mabs hear that. >> ready .medicines, mabs are ready. >> so they're ready. >> so they're ready. >> but we haven't them >> but we haven't licensed them for the use of dementia for the uk for already licensed uk for they are already licensed drugs. they are, but not for dementia . so that is whether or dementia. so that is whether or not the nhs will decide cost not the nhs will decide the cost is it . i can't not the nhs will decide the cost is it. i can't see that is worth it. i can't see that they never they wouldn't. but you never know. the trial with the blood test is five years, but because it's been so good in research, it's been so good in research, it's hoping that by end of it's hoping that by the end of five years we will be able to roll it out and rolling out a blood test is so much easier than rolling out mris pet than rolling out mris and pet scans and everything like that. so five years does seem like a long time, but it goes pretty quickly . we've just been saying quickly. we've just been saying that when we've about that when we've talked about our little that's so sweet. >> i know that's so sweet. aren't they little people? their little i know, but they little faces. i know, but they can be evil as well, though, can't they? really? they get what they? what they want, don't they? but well, is well, you know, this is incredible because also the
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vaccine . apparently vaccine as well. apparently they'd people in they'd give it to people in their and 60s who don't their 50s and 60s who don't have, or risk of have, asymptomatic or risk of it. so there'll be it will be treated like a sort of. it's quite incredible, really. that is incredible. >> the ethics behind that is interesting because giving someone vaccine obviously you someone a vaccine obviously you need to decide whether or not they're at risk from the disease, etc. so that will be hard and it'll interesting. hard and it'll be interesting. but get an ageing but i think as we get an ageing population, i think we're forecast to have a million people by 2040 living people in the uk by 2040 living with alzheimer's. >> i we it. ithink >> i think we can do it. i think we're to do it. i'm really we're going to do it. i'm really excited results. excited about the results. doctor thank excited about the results. doctvery thank excited about the results. doctvery for thank excited about the results. doctvery for coming thank excited about the results. doctvery for coming to thank excited about the results. doctvery for coming to see k you very much for coming to see me. brilliant. look, a breakthrough hopefully in dementia . we'll stay with me if dementia. we'll stay with me if you join welcome. 42 you just join me. welcome. 42 minutes after 3:00. next, andrew rosindell will be in the hot seat to shine a light on this week's developments week's political developments in my political
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britain's election channel. i'm nana akua. we're live on tv, onune nana akua. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. it's just coming up to 45 minutes 3:00. it's minutes after 3:00. and it's time this week's time now for this week's political spotlight. so this week we saw more doom for the tories in the polls as we, as well as one of their own, william wragg, was caught up in a trap sting and civil a honey trap sting and civil servants threatened strike servants threatened to strike over . arms over the government's. arms sales to israel, putting the torch to torch their claims for impartiality. so should we move towards a us style model of political well, political appointees? well, to answer questions, answer some of these questions, i'm joined now by andrew rosindell. he's the conservative mp for romford. there are romford . sorry ruff and romford dogs. sorry ruff and romford dogs. sorry ruff and romford are playing aren't they or something. >> yes. >> yes. >> i'm missing important >> i'm missing a very important football afternoon. football match this afternoon. >> romford football club are playing lincoln. it's a double legged last week was playing lincoln. it's a double leggall. last week was playing lincoln. it's a double leggall. then last week was playing lincoln. it's a double leggall. then they're/eek was playing lincoln. it's a double leggall. then they're playing'as two all. then they're playing this week and they may finish up in wembley in may. let's, let's hope they do so up the borough. >> the second >> what are they in the second
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division >> what are they in the second divi second division. the second or third division. well it's the vase. >> it's one of the no division. no. . what they have done in no. so. what they have done in best they've done in half a century. so really wish them luck. >> good luck to them anyway. yes andrew. right. come on let's get stuck start with andrew. right. come on let's get stuc whole start with andrew. right. come on let's get stuc whole william start with andrew. right. come on let's get stucwhole william wragg thing. andrew. right. come on let's get stucwh going lliam wragg thing. andrew. right. come on let's get stucwh going on m wragg thing. andrew. right. come on let's get stucwh going on withragg thing. andrew. right. come on let's get stucwh going on withraggtoryg. what's going on with the tory party? i know actually, to be fair , there are plenty of mps fair, there are plenty of mps have got themselves in situations . he's not alone and situations. he's not alone and across parties as well. but i don't know. what do you think. >> so nana, i'd like to say two things. first of all, mps believe it or not, are all human beings. we're all fallible. we can make mistakes as an mp, can all make mistakes as an mp, just as you can and i can. we can all make silly mistakes. >> have you photographed >> have you ever photographed pictures and sent pictures of yourself and sent them with your head in the shot? definitely. face and shot? >> and >> absolutely not. and i obviously regret obviously will's going to regret what happened it's tragic what happened and it's a tragic situation , but can i just say situation, but can i just say this other thing that, generally speaking , today, being an mp is speaking, today, being an mp is a very risky business? everybody wants to drag you down. you can
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be accused of things, can be be accused of things, you can be attacked physically, you can be dragged things that are not dragged into things that are not of your making. people can say anything about you, particularly on social media. so it is a actually quite a dangerous job being an mp doesn't sound any different to mine. >> well, i'll be honest , the >> well, i'll be honest, the reason there is a difference because they blame us for everything . everything. >> so i'm going on. i think it's thursday. week to the thursday. this week to the unveiling of the statue to my dear friend sir david amess in southend. he was murdered brutally and then jo cox before him. so many mps have been physically harmed or attacked , physically harmed or attacked, verbally accused of things. it's horrible , absolutely horrible. horrible, absolutely horrible. >> those things and i and i and l, >> those things and i and i and i, it's very tragic , especially i, it's very tragic, especially david amess and jo cox. awful. but those things, he sent the pictures himself, but those things, he sent the pictures himself , nobody forced pictures himself, nobody forced him to. this is his own individual action. i, i accept that he may have mental health issues and may not be feeling
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good about this. it's quite embarrassing. so get it. but embarrassing. so i get it. but this isn't somebody who's coming on. done this to on. you've done this to yourself. you're quite right. >> you're quite right. and can i also say that being a member of parliament is a huge honour? it is to have to be given the trust of your constituents. and i've been very lucky in romford for 23 years. i've served as the member of parliament, my hometown of romford. i'm very proud to be the mp for romford, but with that comes duty and responsibility , very responsibility, very responsibility, very responsibility to parliament, to my constituents and my country. and i think that we all have to behave in a way which is above reproach now. we all make mistakes. we've all made mistakes. we've all made mistakes over the years, but i do think that there's a level of behaviour which is unacceptable, and i know that will is feeling very remorseful about what's happened. it should never have happened. it should never have happened , and i just hope that happened, and i just hope that we can learn a lesson from this . we can learn a lesson from this. >> that's because i'm glad you said that, because it felt to me
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that i was hearing a lot of people making a lot of excuses for now i do accept for this man. now i do accept that tread carefully that you must tread carefully because , people can do because you know, people can do things they feel that things if they feel that they're, , being caught they're, you know, being caught in a situation. they may in they're, you know, being caught inwayituation. they may in they're, you know, being caught inway that on. they may in they're, you know, being caught inway that is. they may in they're, you know, being caught inway that is notey may in they're, you know, being caught inway that is not not1ay in they're, you know, being caught inway that is not not right. in they're, you know, being caught inway that is not not right. so a way that is not not right. so we don't want we want him to stay well . but it stay safe and stay well. but it is for him to is important also for him to take course , take responsibility. of course, and mps to accept that there's a responsibility instead this responsibility instead of this sort . oh, well, you sort of blase. oh, well, you know, do this. we don't know, we all do this. we don't all responsibility for all do this responsibility for our actions, just mps, but our actions, not just mps, but everybody these days, i think >> too often these days, i think today in society, people don't take for their take responsibility for their actions. one of the reasons i'm actions. one of the reasons i'm a conservative is because i believe in freedom with responsibility. you do responsibility. and if you do things and you make mistakes, you make recompense for it. things and you make mistakes, you make recompense for it . you you make recompense for it. you sort out the mess that you've created so well. i wish you guys would. i think there's a lot of things need sorting at the things need sorting out at the moment, but it's not necessarily. the moment, but it's not necesthing the moment, but it's not necesthing mps the moment, but it's not necesthing mps get the moment, but it's not necesthing mps get blamed for other thing mps get blamed for everything, but not all things are fault. some things are are mps fault. some things are beyond our control. we all try our best. >> me an example then,
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>> give me an example then, because okay, some are because okay, some people are talking about stopping the boats and that and some of the policies that have from sunak. have come out from rishi sunak. not action has taken place. not much action has taken place. people are going to blame you for that, right? >> the boats , i >> so stopping the boats, i would if would stop the boats tomorrow if i . okay. first of all, i could. okay. first of all, we've we're under the human rights convention, the echr. i think we should withdraw from that. i think we should get out of it. it's no longer fit for purpose. it might have been a great thing to established great thing to have established in it's in the 50s after the war. it's no longer we have to be sovereign in our own country. our laws should appertain in our country. no foreign court should be overruling what we have decided , so we need to get out decided, so we need to get out of that. but the man to blame, i'm afraid, is mr blair, because he signed us up to the human rights was rights act that was voted through under him, and that tied rights act that was voted thrto gh under him, and that tied rights act that was voted thrto echr1der him, and that tied rights act that was voted thrto echr rulings], and that tied rights act that was voted thrto echr rulings . and that tied rights act that was voted thrto echr rulings . priorthat tied rights act that was voted thrto echr rulings . prior to t tied us to echr rulings. prior to that, it was advisory. it then became compulsory because of what mr blair did. now we should as a party and i freely accept this. my party should have tackled this a long time ago. in fact, david cameron said he was
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going to do it in the manifesto of 2015. we were going to bring in a british bill of rights. >> away, human >> then he ran away, the human rights then brexit took over. he >> but then brexit took over. he ran and we never back >> but then brexit took over. he rarit. and we never back >> but then brexit took over. he rarit. so and we never back >> but then brexit took over. he rarit. so thej we never back >> but then brexit took over. he rarit. so the conservative back >> but then brexit took over. he rarit. so the conservative partyk to it. so the conservative party does need to take action on this and the sooner the better. >> does seem to be. you know, >> it does seem to be. you know, it just seems to be these sort of dragging on. of things are dragging on. and then the then now coming near the election, a election, there seems to be a mad things they mad dash to do the things they should have done, and then they're never going to do them in time, which is very disappointing . what about the disappointing. what about the civil lot people. civil service? a lot of people. i'm back teeth of i'm sick to my back teeth of them. they seem to just decide, oh want to oh no, we don't want to go to work. more than two a work. not more than two days a week. we're week. oh, i don't think we're going this going to put through this legislation forget civil legislation. forget our civil servants code. we're not going to oh, we can't to do that because, oh, we can't all we feel so stressed. we need diversity and inclusion and whatever lessons look, we're all sick think sick of them. do you think it's time incumbent party sick of them. do you think it's tinbe incumbent party sick of them. do you think it's tinbe able incumbent party sick of them. do you think it's tinbe able to incumbent party sick of them. do you think it's tinbe able to inctheirent party sick of them. do you think it's tin be able to inctheir own arty to be able to select their own top civil? >> no, i'm for civil service reform. okay, the one thing the next conservative government has to do is to be radical in how we alter the civil service, the civil servants in my, in my judgement, have way too much
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power. ministers come and go, but the civil servants stay and they control the agenda. and ministers to be in a very ministers seem to be in a very difficult position in terms of actually making any changes and getting anything done. and if you do anything , you get in you do anything, you get in trouble. look at suella, look at pretty, look at dominic raab. >> oh, i know they do things. >> oh, i know they do things. >> the civil servants gang >> and the civil servants gang up. so i think it's wrong. i think we need civil service reform. i'm not saying we go entirely does , entirely with what america does, but i do think we need to go in that but i do think we need to go in tha but top may at >> but the top ones may be at least, know, should least, you know, you should be able at able to cream off the ones at least half of the people should be that in in least half of the people should be government in in least half of the people should be government to in in least half of the people should be government to make in least half of the people should be government to make decisions the government to make decisions says no, don't vote for the civil servants to be obstructing. >> politicians need be back obstructing. >>charge:ians need be back obstructing. >>charge ratheraed be back obstructing. >>charge rather than be back obstructing. >> charge rather than actually( in charge rather than actually the servants really the civil servants really pulling the strings. >> guys must pulling the strings. >> let guys must pulling the strings. >> let them guys must pulling the strings. >> let them because guys must pulling the strings. >> let them because gdon't|ust have let them because i don't get why they managed carry on get why they managed to carry on with wanted get why they managed to carry on with you wanted get why they managed to carry on with you about wanted get why they managed to carry on with you about, wanted get why they managed to carry on with you about, israel, anted to ask you about, israel, because we'll be debating that in whether in the next hour about whether it's in the next hour about whether wsfime in the next hour about whether it's time for us to maybe start to withdraw our arms or to withdraw some of our arms or the licenses that we enable. we've got about minute. the licenses that we enable. we'no,|ot about minute. the licenses that we enable. we'no, it about minute. the licenses that we enable. we'no, it would minute. the licenses that we enable. we'no, it would be.1inute. the licenses that we enable.
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we'no, it would be. we'd. >> no, it would be. we'd be crazy do that. israel a crazy to do that. israel is a democracy . it's a western facing democracy. it's a western facing nation. the conflict is a tragedy for all concerned. and i wanted to end completely. violence should end on both sides, but if israel is not able to defend itself , we know that to defend itself, we know that hamas want to obliterate israel. they want to destroy israel and push israel out. now, that can't be allowed to happen, israel is a nation state recognised by by the united nations, recognised by the united kingdom. and there are allies . what needs to happen are allies. what needs to happen is hamas need to go. they need to release the hostages . and to release the hostages. and then there needs be a long to release the hostages. and then peace1eeds be a long to release the hostages. and then peace agreement. a long to release the hostages. and then peace agreement. so )ng to release the hostages. and then peace agreement. so that term peace agreement. so that both arabic people, palestinian people people can people and jewish people can live in peace in the area of the world that they've always lived in. >> well, listen, andrew, thank you so much for your thank you. >> to back on >> it's delightful to be back on your show. >> you. that's andrew >> thank you. that's andrew rosindell, mp for the conservatives romford, just conservatives in romford, just briefly, on what civil servants raymond striking because raymond says striking because they have to two in
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they have to do two days in the office. had proposed office. if it had been proposed in my working years, it would have laughed court. have been laughed out of court. just . we won't just sacked them. we won't nofice just sacked them. we won't notice i'm with just sacked them. we won't noticwell, i'm with just sacked them. we won't noticwell, listen, i'm with just sacked them. we won't noticwell, listen, stayi'm with just sacked them. we won't noticwell, listen, stay with/ith just sacked them. we won't noticwell, listen, stay with me. you. well, listen, stay with me. coming up, i'll be joined by my amazing broadcast amazing panel broadcast from columnist lizzie cundy also columnist lizzie cundy and also former party labour party adviser matthew lazor. but next, it's my monologue on j.k. rowling's fight against this ridiculous new laws in scotland . ridiculous new laws in scotland. stay tuned. you will not want to miss that. but up next, it's the weather. and apparently it's about 21 degrees. >> looks like things are heating up . boxt boilers sponsors of up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news. >> good afternoon. welcome to your latest gb news weather from the met office. storm kathleen is still very much the talking point of our weather over the next day or so. situated out to the west the uk, it's going the west of the uk, it's going to very strong the west of the uk, it's going to through very strong the west of the uk, it's going to through the iery strong the west of the uk, it's going to through the rest strong the west of the uk, it's going to through the rest of)ng winds through the rest of saturday start saturday and into the start of sunday. winds sunday. those strongest winds likely across western parts of the uk, northern ireland and
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cundy. honestly. also coming up today for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking our civil servants overstepping the mark. tuned. be mark. stay tuned. we'll be discussing that in the great british debate. then for my difficult conversations, i'll be joined in the studio by tv personality jessica alves , who's personality jessica alves, who's been she's had over 100 plastic surgery procedures worth more than £1 million. then my royal roundup and the one and only royal biographer, angela levin will be here to give us the latest from behind the palace walls and she's got a royal scoop. but we scoop. but before we get started, latest scoop. but before we get starte headlines latest scoop. but before we get starte headlines . latest news headlines. >> nana. thank you. the top stories power cuts have left thousands without electricity across ireland as storm kathleen bnngs across ireland as storm kathleen brings strong winds. dozens of flights have also been cancelled due to gusts of up to 70mph in northern ireland and the west of britain , around 70 flights have britain, around 70 flights have been cancelled off so far . a
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been cancelled off so far. a yellow weather warning for wind is in effect until 10:00 tonight and covers cornwall, much of wales , parts of lancashire and wales, parts of lancashire and cumbria and up into central scotland and northern ireland. meanwhile, two planes on the runway at heathrow airport have collided, causing damage to their wings. footage shows a virgin wing virgin atlantic plane's wing touching virgin atlantic plane's wing touchin surrounded by emergency aircraft surrounded by emergency services. the virgin boeing 787 nine plane had completed a flight and was being towed to a different part of the airfield. it's understood there were no passengers on board at the time it's understood there were no pathe|gers on board at the time it's understood there were no pathe incident board at the time it's understood there were no pathe incident .oard at the time it's understood there were no pathe incident. rail at the time it's understood there were no pathe incident . rail passengers of the incident. rail passengers are facing fresh travel disruption as train drivers continue striking in a long running pay dispute. members of the aslef union at six companies have walked out, leaving some areas with no services all day. chiltern, trans, pennine express and northern will not run any trains and there will be a reduced services on great western, lner and heathrow
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express. engineering work means there will be no trains between london paddington and reading . london paddington and reading. the torso, found at a nature reserve in salford, belonged to a man aged older than 40. a murder investigation was launched by greater manchester police after the body part was found wrapped in plastic at kersal wetlands. the victim is believed to have been dead for a matter of days. dna tests are ongoing to identify the man . ongoing to identify the man. climate activist greta thunberg has been detained by dutch police during a demonstration in the hague. thunberg was put in a large bus by officers , along large bus by officers, along with other protesters who tried to highway into to block a major highway into the administrative capital of the administrative capital of the netherlands. the 21 year old activist was protesting against the dutch government's fossil fuel . a conservative fuel subsidies. a conservative mp says he was the first whistleblower to alert police to the parliamentary honey trap sixteen scam. bosworth mp, doctor luke evans says he was
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the victim of cyberflashing as the victim of cyberflashing as the met launched an investigation into unsolicited messages with leicestershire police on thursday. tory mp william wragg told the times he'd sent intimate pictures of himself to someone on a gay dating app and was then manipulated into providing colleagues phone numbers. so far, around a dozen mps, staff and journalists are known to have been targeted. >> the first set of messages i got was on a day i was with my wife, and i got a one time open photo on whatsapp of an explicit image of a naked lady. as soon as i got these the next day, i reported it to the police , the reported it to the police, the authorities and the chief whip. ten days later, i got another set of messages. this time, however , i was sat with my team however, i was sat with my team in the constituency office, so we were able to record the conversation and catch photos and videos of the messages coming through , including coming through, including another explicit female image. i put my name up to say, well, i hope others come forward. i'm just pleased i blew the whistle,
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reported it to the authorities and looked into . and it's now being looked into. >> nearly £17 million worth of drugs has been seized by the royal navy after it intercepted smuggling speedboats in the canbbean smuggling speedboats in the caribbean sea across two operations. hms trent seized 200kg of cocaine following a port visit to the island of martinique. defence secretary grant shapps says it shows the navy's commitment to disrupt and dismantle drug traffickers . dismantle drug traffickers. reckless tory tax pledges will leave homebuyers worse off. labour warns. labour is warning that the tories tax pledges are reckless and will leave first time home buyers worse off. the party says the conservatives ambition to scrap any contributions will create a £46 billion black hole. their analysis suggests first home buyers could be £280 worse off each year due to an increase in mortgage repayments. shadow minister alison mcgovern told gb
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news the policy will harm young couples , but it's hardly fair to couples, but it's hardly fair to put at risk that position that people are in when they're trying to buy their first home, when they're really saving and doing, making these sorts of unfunded tax commitments has that effect. >> it's worse for people who are in that position, who struggle to be able to buy their own home. >> for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen, or go to gb news common alerts. now it's back to nana salah al—din. >> thank you tatiana. it's just coming up to six minutes after 4:00. this is gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua . digital radio. i'm nana akua. the most ridiculous legislation has just been passed with humza useless leading the charge. holyrood's new hate crime legislation, which kicked in on monday and saw humza himself
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being a victim of his own for success after he managed to get the legislation passed, he became the most reported person on it for his rant about diversity. four years ago, the 99% of the meetings i go to, i'm the only non—white person in the room. >> but why are we so surprised when the most senior positions in scotland are filled almost exclusively by those who are white? take my portfolio alone. >> the lord president white, the lord justice clerk white. >> every high court judge white, the lord advocate white, the solicitor general. >> white. >> white. >> the chief constable white, every deputy chief constable white, every . white, every. >> assistant chief constable white, the head of the law society . white. the head of the society. white. the head of the faculty of advocates. white every prison governor. white >> that is not good enough. >> that is not good enough. >> what do you expect in a 95% white country .7 alongside him was
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white country? alongside him was j.k. rowling for correctly describing trans women as men, which they are. there's no getting around it. she also criticised the government both humza and jk were reported to the police in scotland over claims that they had committed so—called hate crimes . officers so—called hate crimes. officers were inundated with allegations against them. is this really the best use of our police time? the new legislation basically gives the police the final say on whether to proceed and record their words as non—crime hate incidents and luckily for humza, they decided against it. what a waste of police time and money. they also decided not to proceed with jk rowling, who rightly pointed out that the legislation is wide open to abuse by activists who wish to silence those of us speaking out about the dangers of eliminating women's and girls single—sex spaces she argued it is impossible to accurately describe or tackle the reality of violence and sexual violence committed against women and
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girls, or address the current assault on women's and girls rights. unless we're allowed to call a man a man, she said. i hope every woman in scotland who wishes to speak up for the reality and importance of biological sex will be reassured by this announcement, and i trust that all women, irrespective of profile or financial means , will be treated financial means, will be treated equally under the law. here here. thank god she said something. could you imagine if it was one of us? i don't know about you, but i want our police to with actual crime like to deal with actual crime like burglaries attacks. burglaries and violent attacks. not hurt feelings. but it gets worse this weekend , there is worse this weekend, there is concern that police will be deluged by a torrent of hate crime complaints as celtic play rangers on sunday, with fans from both sides making vexatious and claims against each and spurious claims against each other. how can they decipher what's what? surely that's the job of a court of law? what a mess. but it's actually united both the right and the left. >> under this law, you can go to
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prison for something you said privately in your own home. >> someone else can hear what you said second hand. then take offence at what they've heard you've said privately, and then report you to the police for something you said to someone else in private , and reporting else in private, and reporting it to the police is being openly encouraged by the government. and we're being told that these new supposed to promote new laws are supposed to promote tolerance. and even they tolerance. and even if they decide that a crime hasn't taken place, it could still be recorded as a non hate crime incident, which will go on your record and be available to potential employers without your knowledge . knowledge. >> well, that's lefty jonathan pie. that's what he thinks. i'm afraid this legislation is already proving to be going down like a cup of sick. just like humza's great mentor nicola sturgeon's gender recognition reform that .7 reform bill. remember that? which arguably was the catalyst for cutting tenure for cutting short her tenure that, alongside an unaccounted £600,000, she's taught him well.
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it looks like humza is going in the same direction . so we the same direction. so we thought before we get stuck into the debate, here's what else is coming up today for the great british this hour, i'm british debate this hour, i'm asking, are civil servants overstepping it comes overstepping the mark? it comes after some civil servants voted to to return to strike over plans to return to strike over plans to return to the office, and others requested to work requested to cease work immediately over arms sales to israel. so for the great british debate this hour , i'm asking our debate this hour, i'm asking our civil servants overstepping the mark at 450. it's royal roundup time, and royal biographer angela will be here to angela levin will be here to give the latest. from behind angela levin will be here to givepalacee latest. from behind angela levin will be here to givepalace wallst. from behind angela levin will be here to givepalace wallst. from menud the palace walls on the menu tours of balmoral castle, which gave chance to see gave visitors the chance to see parts of the royal family's private time. private home for the first time. they've out. then, at five, they've sold out. then, at five, it's this week's difficult conversations . tv personality conversations. tv personality jessica alves will be live in the studio. she's been discussing all the plastic surgery she's had. she spent over £1 million on it. yes, i know that's coming up in the
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next. that's my best joke. gone. that's coming up in the next houn that's coming up in the next hour. tell me what you think of everything we're discussing. email gb views news. email gb views at gb news. com or at . gb news. all or tweet me at. gb news. all right. let's get started. let's welcome again to my panel broadcast from columnist lizzie cundy. and also former labour party adviser matthew le le . oh party adviser matthew le le. oh i love that, matthew. you're allowed one. i'm allowed one. really? i'm going to start with the lovely lizzie cundy . lizzie the lovely lizzie cundy. lizzie cundy? this just seems absurd. >> say this. >> i never thought i'd say this. come back, jemmy krankie. all is forgiven. please. i mean, the man is not only weak, he's inept. he's not thought this through at all. he's too busy trying to score political footballs with minor minority groups . i footballs with minor minority groups. i mean, take this sunday, for instance, at the celtic rangers game. you mentioned it, nana, and your great monologue . i mean, is he great monologue. i mean, is he going to arrest 60,000 fans that are all going to be chanting
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with their songs and all their what they sing? has he been to a football does he know football match? does he know what that one's going to be like? absolutely idiotic. like? it's absolutely idiotic. it's ludicrous. and the man has just shown himself up for what he is. and how is he going to police this exactly? well, how is he do it? is he going to do it? >> he's left it to the police. to police, which is unfair. >> and if they're not >> and as if they're not stretched enough. about you stretched enough. how about you look at what's really going on in with the huge crime in scotland with the huge crime record and the and the drugs and everything this is everything else? this is absolutely ludicrous. matthew laza. >> so, look, think >> so, look, i think the intention behind it to tackle hate crime a one. hate crime is a good one. >> i think that, you know, hate crime is a serious issue, but the is so ineptly written the bill is so ineptly written and and, and and excludes women. and, and this second hand reporting where you don't even have to ring the police, you can go to a range of places from sex in places from a sex shop in glasgow to a golf course. i think it's somewhere in aberdeenshire, it . aberdeenshire, and report it. it's obviously leading just it's obviously leading to just hundreds and hundreds of people taking what, taking the, you know what, which, you know, we could have predicted. >> we've seen police >> so today we've seen police scotland that they are >> so today we've seen police scotlato that they are >> so today we've seen police
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scotlato to that they are >> so today we've seen police scotlato to cut,they are >> so today we've seen police scotlato to cut, other re going to have to cut, other things they're having to things because they're having to pay things because they're having to pay for extra shifts phone pay for extra shifts for phone handlers to deal with the flood of complaints we've so far. >> so clearly it's, it's having unintended consequences. >> is and in a more serious >> this is and in a more serious note, just a couple of weeks ago, police scotland said that they of they were there's a list of things going they were there's a list of thideal going they were there's a list of thideal anymore, going they were there's a list of thideal anymore, andying they were there's a list of thideal anymore, and they to deal with anymore, and they included people, included them broken people, broken people smashed a window. so, know, low level, you >> so, you know, low level, you know, sort of unruliness, but, you broken you know, remember the broken window theory that it starts with broken it with a broken window and it leads you leads on, which is what, you know , by tackling the small know, by tackling the small offences know, by tackling the small offeryork. was the name of new york. that was the name of the to it that the theory given to it that really the crime down new york. so it seems >> so it seems to me that it's a disaster for scotland. it's disaster for scotland. and it's i for the i mean, it's a disaster for the snp will a political snp who will pay a political price, holes price, but it's got more holes in it, this legislation then my, you pub dartboard, it's an you know, pub dartboard, it's an absolute joke. >> and the how are they going to be doing it. you know, you're going to get anonymous , going to get anonymous, allegations of hate crimes. how are prove you are you going to prove it? you know, you can have false ones done. >> will you get one for calling him? >> how is he? useless >> how is he? useless >> i mean, listen, >> i mean, that's listen,
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there's record. there's going to be a record. i think non—crime hate think we can have non—crime hate incidents country incidents here in this country as there's as well. i'm sure there's a record for me record of non—crime hate for me for half of my monologues, for goodness let's be goodness sake. i mean, let's be honest here. and for calling me lala, i'm for calling lala. honest here. and for calling me lal. i'm 11 for calling lala. honest here. and for calling me lal.i'm not r calling lala. honest here. and for calling me lal.i'm not going 1g lala. honest here. and for calling me lal.i'm not going to lala. honest here. and for calling me lal.i'm not going to be. lala. >> i'm not going to be. >> i'm not going to be. >> reality. >> it diminishes the reality. of course it does. but you're serious? absolutely . and serious? yes, absolutely. and then it time actual then it wastes time on actual crime. it's all. it's totally pointless. >> it's a disaster because you have to preserve freedom of speech as well . speech as well. >> and i just couldn't believe that women aren't included in this . you know, i talk about this. you know, i talk about erasing women. and when i tried to stick up for women, you know, when i do the trans when i do believe the trans community needs to be, you know, treated with care and understanding . but when i speak understanding. but when i speak out, you know, it's like it's crazy. nana. you know, i feel. well, peter tatchell thinks the laws phase here. >> i mean, tatchell, >> i mean, peter tatchell, obviously supporter. obviously even a big supporter. yeah. has said yeah. peter tatchell has said that, it's crazy that, that he thinks it's crazy that women aren't included as well. who well. so i don't see who supporting this apart the supporting this apart from the failing does get >> exactly how does this get through that's. through then? that's. i'm confused about how such a ridiculous legislation , ridiculous piece of legislation, the even jonathan pie's calling
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ridiculous and everybody is looking at from both left right. we're how we're all saying it. how does this get passed? >> so i mean, i think it's a sign kind of groupthink in sign this kind of groupthink in the scottish parliament, what happened is they put forward it's three years old. it's actually three years old. this this , this the this legislation, this, this the rollout has been three years in the planning. so the last week is the result of three years of thinking it through. and what happened they were happened is, is that they were originally they were originally even in it. and even fewer safeguards in it. and scottish labour and the scottish lib the safeguards put lib dems got the safeguards put in, and then it went through basically vote to the snp and basically on vote to the snp and the scottish lib dems. think the scottish lib dems. i think scottish dems scottish labour and the lib dems probably did vote in of scottish labour and the lib dems proifinal did vote in of scottish labour and the lib dems proifinal billvote in of scottish labour and the lib dems proifinal bill because of scottish labour and the lib dems proifinal bill because they of the final bill because they got it opposed it amended. the tories opposed it amended. the tories opposed it . but i've, i've msp. it. but i've, i've been an msp. i have opposing i would have carried on opposing it because the safeguards clearly because it because the safeguards clettaking because it because the safeguards clettaking from because it's taking away from the seriousness crime and seriousness of hate crime and it's taking away from police's ability with proper ability to deal with proper crime. are clearly crime. police are clearly stretched enough as it is. >> head in >> they must have their head in their hands thinking this is they've two training they've had a two hour training course. online, chris, and course. it's online, chris, and i'm sorry, i actually think he should this. i think it's should go for this. i think it's an absolute joke. >> i think go for
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>> well, i think he might go for this, because i'm this, to be honest, because i'm wondering what the scottish people will make of it. i think this real test this weekend will be a real test to find out what happens, because there'll be already there's 6000 of these there's been 6000 of these things so that's things reported. okay so that's a thousand a day. and that was i read on the guardian. i read that on the guardian. i don't know why i did have that in monologue. sure. >> e- ei- e >> i mean, it's a country of 5.5 million people. so, you know, it's a percentage, high. >> so there's been 6000, >> so if there's been 6000, about a thousand of these a day, the police not have the the police do not have the resource to handle that. and the police the police are then given the individual decide individual judgement to decide whether it's a hate crime or not. will dependent not. and that will be dependent on perception of hate, on their own perception of hate, which there's which will be varied. so there's no no consistency with it. >> so we're all we're it's a joke. look at what jk rowling wrote. you're going to come and arrest me. please. she invited me. it's a laughing stock. he's a laughing stock. >> of turning >> it's in danger of turning the police stock. so police into a laughing stock. so people just don't take the police things, you >> and other things, well, you know, got time know, well, we haven't got time for seems that for it, but it seems that scotland weekend scotland do. but this weekend will test, it? we'll scotland do. but this weekend willwhat test, it? we'll scotland do. but this weekend willwhat happens it? we'll scotland do. but this weekend willwhat happens with’ we'll scotland do. but this weekend willwhat happens with’ we celtic scotland do. but this weekend will rangers)pens with’ we celtic scotland do. but this weekend will rangers match vith’ we celtic scotland do. but this weekend will rangers match vith’ whether:
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and rangers match and whether they're inundated with non—crime hate incidents. right if you just join me. welcome. this is gb online and on gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua. coming up , digital radio. i'm nana akua. coming up, royal roundup time angela levin, royal biographer, will be give us the will be here to give us the latest from behind the palace walls. time for walls. but next it's time for the great british debate this houn the great british debate this hour. and i'm our civil hour. and i'm asking our civil servants overstepping the mark. i've got a poll right on i've got a poll up right now on ex asking you that very question. are civil servants overstepping the mark? email me gb views gb news. com or tweet me gb cast your vote me at gb news. cast your vote now
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talking what andrew andrew talking about what andrew andrew rosindell was the studio rosindell was in the studio and he said, andrew rosindell absolutely smashed it with his views with views on how to deal with the issues migrants and issues regarding migrants and hamas—israel war. about time someone great. barbara someone spoke great. barbara says william wragg's private life is his business, he was life is his business, but he was dishonest and thoughtless in what afterwards. what he did afterwards. not immediately . going to the police immediately. going to the police was his first mistake we was his first mistake that we should concerned about. we should be concerned about. we can sorry for him as can feel sorry for him as he's naive , but that's all. naive and dim, but that's all. no excuses. i'm with you on that one. civil servants, raymond one. on civil servants, raymond says, striking. oh no, caroline, i've . raymond carroll i've done yours. raymond carroll said. if the civil service don't want week, want to do three days a week, just tell them to come in for five find five days a week or find alternative they are alternative employment. they are obviously not actually working. thank you for that. keep your thoughts . and on my thoughts coming. and on my monologue gb news. monologue gb views gb news. com but time now for the great but it's time now for the great british debate this hour, and i'm civil servants i'm asking our civil servants overstepping the mark staff at i'm asking our civil servants ove onsping the mark staff at i'm asking our civil servants ove ons have:he mark staff at i'm asking our civil servants ove ons have votedirk staff at i'm asking our civil servants ove ons have voted to staff at i'm asking our civil servants ove ons have voted to strike at the ons have voted to strike after being asked to return to the for office just two days a week, and that comes amid growing resistance from staff against government directives to increase office attendance,
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citing concerns about disruptions to personal arrangements and childcare responsibilities . seriously, how responsibilities. seriously, how did we manage before all this? meanwhile, civil servants overseas arms exports to israel have to cease work have requested to cease work immediately over fears that they could be complicit in a war in crimes against gaza . so for the crimes against gaza. so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking our civil servants overstepped the mark. well, joining to discuss joining me now to discuss peter spencen joining me now to discuss peter spencer, sky political spencer, former sky political correspondent. stephen barrett, barrister . peter barrister and writer. peter edwards, former editor of the labourlist. and eve reem ibrahim, political commentator. right. well, there's four are counted for. i've just got three. i'm going to start with you, can you lay out you, stephen. can you lay out the sort of guidelines and the rules here for civil servants? how does it work? should they? i thought they had a code of conduct. >> well , it's not conduct. >> well, it's not working. conduct. >> well , it's not working. okay. >> well, it's not working. okay. so that's the most important thing to say, is that the constitutional arrangement we have with civil servants is not functioning the way it is supposed to function .
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supposed to function. >> and the reason it's not functioning the way it's supposed because supposed to function is because we sort forgot the we sort of forgot what the definition political definition of being political is, and we've allowed them to do politics, provided it was quote unquote good politics. now, you actually can't have that. that's not a rule . that's not a law. not a rule. that's not a law. because who on earth is there to say what is good or or bad politics? you know that that in itself political decision. itself is a political decision. so actually what you've done there destroyed your there is you've destroyed your rule . and once you've got rid of rule. and once you've got rid of the is and the definition of what is and isn't, politics and let them do bits you like, supporting bits you like, like supporting people sexuality , you people with my sexuality, you know, they're allowed to do that. they're allowed to do little politics as long little bits of politics as long as they're deemed good politics. what nonsense law what i would call a nonsense law . once you do that, you destroy impartiality, the impartiality, which means the civil service is no longer impartial. it is in fact politicised, only politicised, but only politicised, but only politicised in a certain way. but thinks but and anybody who thinks there's any control on this is mad. there is no boundary around that. mad. there is no boundary around that . the civil service, if that. the civil service, if you're to a you're allowing them to be a bit political, there's no political, you know, there's no such as pregnant. such thing as a bit pregnant. nana is the they
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nana you know, this is the they are either political or they are not, and they're being political . and once you do that, impartiality collapses. so impartiality collapses. and so you like this, you get behaviour like this, which is, you know, and the most obvious one is, is, is israel, which is completely ridiculous . which is completely ridiculous. i mean, there is a political belief in this country that israel breaches of israel is committing breaches of international law, which is simply a delusion. i mean, that's that's i think there is no other it. israel no other way to put it. israel is conducting an extremely difficult urban warfare. the united nations says that whenever you conduct an urban warfare, general , for every warfare, general, for every enemy combatant you kill, you accidentally kill eight civilians. and we've done urban warfare. we have been involved in we may very well have in it. so we may very well have killed for killed eight civilians for every combatant . the israelis are combatant. the israelis are somehow managing to kill, kill five. so they're somehow managing to kill far fewer than anybody else has ever done. but there is you know, people do not care reason and fact, care about reason and fact, which is often true of the world care about reason and fact, wipolitics. ten true of the world care about reason and fact, wipolitics. in true of the world care about reason and fact, wipolitics. i might,)f the world care about reason and fact, wipolitics. i might, mightworld care about reason and fact, wipolitics. i might, might addj care about reason and fact, wipolitics. i might, might add , of politics. i might, might add, that has happened that nana and what has happened is impartiality has broken is that impartiality has broken down, and our civil service no
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longer functions in way that longer functions in the way that constitutionally it is supposed to. >> right . to. >> right. thank you for that interesting stuff. right, peter edwards, what are your thoughts? >> so there's a dispute between the office national the ons office national statistics and the pcs, which is not affiliated to labour. >> i've been involved in industrial disputes often industrial disputes and often what's at the heart of them is really breakdown trust really is a breakdown of trust before on to the before you get on to the minutiae law. but clearly minutiae of the law. but clearly there's long there's difference between long standing ons staff who are there before those before the pandemic and those taken on since 2020 when we went into lockdown, think into the first lockdown, i think a lot of it would depend on what's contract, but i what's in the contract, but i do think having been employer what's in the contract, but i do think ibossg been employer what's in the contract, but i do think iboss myself, employer what's in the contract, but i do think iboss myself, asemployer what's in the contract, but i do think iboss myself, as welloyer what's in the contract, but i do think iboss myself, as well asir and a boss myself, as well as someone who's managed that, employers have got to be flexible and you should do consultations when you're changing something. note changing something. and i note that the pcs office are quoting a actually say a lot of papers did actually say she felt the ons had been heavy handed. so although they're not here to speak, that that would imply been imply there hasn't really been enough , and just enough consultation, and just for anyone, the pcs is a civil service union. so that's, that's what it's talking about there.
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but just peter, what about the whole thing with gaza? then some of them preparing to withdraw their labour? >> well, i don't know the full details of that story, but but clearly, civil servants, have a boss and they have a contract and they have to follow that. >> but there's also in most, i think, in all workplaces, really and law, there is and perhaps under law, there is some scope to act according to your i'm not clear on the >> but i'm not clear on the specific details of what they've >> but i'm not clear on the speci'asked ails of what they've >> but i'm not clear on the speci'asked ailsdo. what they've been asked to do. >> ibrahim your thoughts? >> reem ibrahim your thoughts? >> reem ibrahim your thoughts? >> yeah, i think it's interesting. >> mean, got to talk >> i mean, we've got to talk about public sector pay within the of public sector the context of public sector spending, and remember that every increase in public servants or civil servants pay isindeed servants or civil servants pay is indeed an increase in cost for the taxpayer. now the average salary for an ons economist is about £31,000. it can go up, of course , with experience. >> and i think what's interesting about this is you know, we can talk about the way in which we feel sorry for many people that haven't been able to actually look at those flexible working .
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working arrangements. >> nana you couldn't work from home in home if you wanted to. you're in the studio running a show. so i think it's really important that we conversations and we have these conversations and actually thinking about where the money is coming from, but also these people seem to also why these people seem to feel the need to of feel the need to want to sort of bargain their way into having flexible working arrangements. bargain their way into having fle)the working arrangements. bargain their way into having fle)the working around �*nents. bargain their way into having fle)the working around working >> the evidence around working from home is still pretty unclear. question is , how did unclear. my question is, how did this all work before the pandemic exactly? >> worked , didn't it? >> well, it worked, didn't it? and they did they were and they did what they were told, but somehow they're not doing that right. let's bring in peter well. peter peter spencer as well. peter spencer oh peter spencer is here. oh peter spencer is here. oh peter spencer , peter spencer, what are spencer, peter spencer, what are your thoughts? >> yeah, i mean there are my thoughts are that there are there are two particular industrial disputes going on at present . one is over home present. one is over home working and the other is over minimum cover during a strike in both cases, i can see the arguments on both sides. >> the bosses say, look, it's more efficient if people show their faces at the office now and then and the and the and the workers say, look, you know,
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it's not what you signed up for on the minimum cover. in the case of a strike. >> and the bosses say, look, for god's sake, there's certain times there's stuff we've got to do which workers say, do to which the workers say, yeah , this is an this an yeah, this is an this is an intrusion fundamental intrusion on our fundamental trade union rights. but far more importantly than this, i think, is the legal challenge over notably over rwanda. >> and here, i have to say, i do think that sir humphrey's got a point because of the fact that the government and rishi sunak , the government and rishi sunak, just a couple of days ago have repeatedly hinted there are liable to put up two fingers to the court of human the european court of human rights and their advice is quite legal. >> advice is quite clear on this subject , which is the fact that subject, which is the fact that they would then be breaking international law. and at this point the civil servants are saying, yeah, look, the civil service sort of the terms of service, so to speak, are we going to be complicit in
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breaking international law? >> not if we can possibly help it. >> but but they're not really . >> but but they're not really. look, that's that is with the premise they are breaking premise that they are breaking international law. and from what stephen said, it doesn't sound like they are. right. so why do they think? sorry, stephen, am i right in saying that? oh come on. >> no, no, i think it's very important for some reason. and i know several years ago, international all anybody international law is all anybody ever talks about. but we are sovereign of the united sovereign subjects of the united kingdom. we are subject to, to sovereign subjects of the united kin law,i. we are subject to, to sovereign subjects of the united kin law,i. subject subject to, to sovereign subjects of the united kin law,i. subject to iject to, to sovereign subjects of the united kin law,i. subject to domestic» uk law, a subject to domestic law. we're not subject to international law. doesn't international law. it doesn't control us. it's not in charge of us. it's not our boss. you know lives in the know it can. it lives in the land and when we land of narnia. and when we where where the point is interesting is where we incorporate it into our domestic law. then it binds us and the human rights act has incorporated the echr. so if the echr found against rwanda, then the servants would the civil servants would be right in saying we are bound by domestic law and we cannot break domestic law and we cannot break domestic law and therefore we cannot help you on rwanda. but
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it the echr to it does require the echr to firstly make that ruling. they can't that is can't just guess that that is what the echr will do, and it also united kingdom also requires the united kingdom to stay under the jurisdiction of is our of the echr, which is our choice. we can leave. so but it's important to get all the laws right and in order and all iever laws right and in order and all i ever then do is make sure that they're applied consistently and, civil servants who are going around saying, i can't do this of international this because of international law, well, ignore them. they're obviously they're obviously wrong. they're not bound international law. bound by international law. that's they can't bound by international law. thiit,. they can't bound by international law. thiit, domestic they can't bound by international law. thiit, domestic tthat'sin't different. >> okay. reem ibrahim. yeah. >> okay. reem ibrahim. yeah. >> so i wanted add this >> so i just wanted to add this point. you know, international law effectively, know, law is effectively, you know, it's colloquial. we've got different laws through different supranational institutions , like supranational institutions, like for example, with the echr and we through the we and we go through the european, court of human rights. >> but actually, you know, in this country, we have an unwritten constitution and law derives from parliament. >> we have parliamentary sovereignty. and so all of this nonsense and this kind of i do think it is a political move. i think it is a political move. i think it's political terms think it's political in terms of the are trying the way in which they are trying to government laws and
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to prevent government laws and government from government legislation from occurring or from being implemented . specifically, in implemented. specifically, in the case of the rwanda bill, i actually don't think that the rwanda is particularly rwanda policy is particularly going , but going to be effective, but i think political move. think this is a political move. >> finally then >> okay. right. so finally then i'll ask you all the question then, i'll then, do you think that i'll start with you, peter spencer, are the mark? are they overstepping the mark? yes or no? no, no, i won't ask you, stephen, because i know you're not allowed to make a judgement. so i'll go to reem. are overstepping mark? are they overstepping the mark? >> believe are. >> yes, i do believe they are. >> yes, i do believe they are. >> edwards, the rwanda >> and peter edwards, the rwanda policy wrong. policy is morally wrong. >> have >> and civil servants have a right according to their conscience. >> so are they stepping the mark then? with the things then? now with the things they're doing you don't then? now with the things they'ithey ng you don't then? now with the things they'ithey are? you don't then? now with the things the no.|ey are? you don't then? now with the things the no. they're you don't then? now with the things the no. they're entitled don't then? now with the things the no. they're entitled to n't then? now with the things the no. they're entitled to act >> no. they're entitled to act according to their conscience. >> lovely. >> em- eml- >> thank you so much. right. that's spencer, that's it. that's peter spencer, former sky political correspondent. thank you so much . stephen barrett, barrister and writer. peter writer. thank you, peter edwards, former editor of the labourlist and reem ibrahim political commentator. thank you so much for your thoughts. brilliant. that's it brilliant. that's that's find it out now. so hopefully out for me now. so hopefully that's to you. what you that's clear to you. what do you think then? this is a gb news
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good afternoon. it's just coming up to 39 minutes after 4:00. this is gb news. don't forget, you can download the gb news app. it's completely free. i'm nana akua. and it's time now for the great british debate. this hour i'm asking, are civil servants the mark? servants overstepping the mark? civil servants at the ons have voted to strike over plans to return to the office for just two days a week. really would support 73. this reflects growing resistance to government directives on office attendance due to concerns about personal disruptions and childcare . in disruptions and childcare. in the meantime, civil servants overseeing arms exports to israel have requested to cease work immediately over fears that they could be complicit in a war or in war crimes in gaza . so the or in war crimes in gaza. so the great british debate this i'm asking, are civil servants
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overstepping the mark? well, let's what panel of let's see what my panel make of that. me now, that. joining me now, broadcaster columnist broadcaster and columnist lizzie cundy, and also former labour party adviser matthew laza matthew are two matthew laza. there they are two days a week. too much for them. yeah. >> i mean, i think that this strike makes me uncomfortable. i'm in favour of a mixed hybrid working, as they call it, which, you moment working you know, there's moment working at home can be efficient for some of the week. but i think coming is important. coming into office is important. and i if you're hard and i think if you're hard pressed , you know, if pressed taxpayer, you know, if you're stacking you're if you're stacking shelves in a supermarket, if you're cleaner, if you're a hospital cleaner, if you're a hospital cleaner, if you're a hospital cleaner, if you're a hospital, you're a nurse in a hospital, if you're a nurse in a hospital, if you're officer , if you're a police officer, if you're a police officer, if you're somebody behind the branch branches branch in a bank, those branches that are left, then you'll be thinking, you know, your taxes are going to go and pay are are going to go and pay, are paying paying for civil servants. then you very you will think that at the very least, they can go into the office for days week. so office for two days a week. so i'm forcing i'm not in favour of forcing them week. them back five days a week. i think of type of job them back five days a week. i thinkdo of type of job them back five days a week. i thinkdo some type of job them back five days a week. i thinkdo some a type of job them back five days a week. i thinkdo some a lotie of job them back five days a week. i thinkdo some a lotie (it,ob they do that some a lot of it, some can done at home. some of it can be done at home. but certainly to but certainly they need to collaborate but certainly they need to colloffice.3 the office. >> exactly. the office. >> exacthundy i'm >> lizzie cundy well, i'm calling shirkers calling them civil shirkers shirking the work. well, hold on a these guys have been
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a minute. these guys have been in lockdown since 2020 and they now decided they want to stay full time at home. how are they going to strike? are going to strike from their living room with their feet up on the table or back garden? it's with their feet up on the table or going back garden? it's with their feet up on the table or going back flyingi? it's with their feet up on the table or going back flying desks, not going to be flying desks, chair. they chair. i mean, where are they actually to strike now? actually going to strike now? would anybody notice i look, i've in the break. i had a look at some of the facts of these guys. now they are their average pension retirement and is over 60 k. and i know you know, high grade earning up to 80 k. they get 30 days holiday there in a really plum. nice job. and they are now i don't know if you know the hmrc from the 8th of april until september, the 29th are no longer going to take anyone's calls about their, they've decided on their getting quick returns getting so they will not take your calls. no, because they've probably got their feet up watching tv doing. >> i think there'll be some calls for that to be revealed.
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absolutely mean, i actually >> this is i mean, i actually think absolute joke . think this is an absolute joke. >> what about the fact that some of now to down of them are now looking to down tools because they've decided that perhaps they they tools because they've decided that fwant)s they they tools because they've decided that fwant)s �*bey they tools because they've decided that fwant)s “be complicitey tools because they've decided that fwant)s “be complicit in don't want to be complicit in potential war crime? >> think i take >> well, i think on that i take that more seriously. that a bit more seriously. >> you heard what said. >> you heard what stephen said. >> you heard what stephen said. >> i think what >> yeah. so i think i think what we should do is wait for the legal advice to come out. i think there certainly pre—empting getting think there certainly pre—em|first. getting in there first. >> why should they even be >> but why should they even be allowed to make decisions of that ? they are unelected that nature? they are unelected civil servants. servants? that nature? they are unelected civiyes. vants. servants? that nature? they are unelected civiyes. there servants?of >> yes. there is a kind of philosophical debate about, you know, people just following orders. you we've orders. and, you know, we've seen leave if they seen that in other leave if they can't well, mean, seen that in other leave if they can'know, well, mean, seen that in other leave if they can'know, maybe nell, mean, seen that in other leave if they can'know, maybe that's mean, seen that in other leave if they can' know, maybe that's the an, you know, maybe that's the answer , but think i mean, answer, but i think that i mean, i them deciding answer, but i think that i mean, i they're them deciding answer, but i think that i mean, i they're they'reem deciding that they're they're not only deciding that they're going to follow that follow the legal advice, that they're of imagining they're just sort of imagining what advice might what the legal advice might say. so that's, so i think that that's that's, you know, that's, you know, that's absurd in the first place. there's an issue place. and then there's an issue about advice about whether the legal advice does i suspect does say that, i think i suspect it therefore ministers it won't. so therefore ministers are decide. are the ones to decide. >> servant , and >> ministers civil servant, and they've got too much power. and,
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you know, we've got to be tougher on them, but they really do is when the new elected president comes in, he can then clear the floor of the, you know, old civil servants because they're that are they're the ones that are actually the continuity of the government. >> yeah. i mean, the independence of our civil service been something that service has been something that we've all cherished between governments of all different parties. but i think you're right. question parties. but i think you're right. impartialityastion parties. but i think you're right. impartiality ,;tion parties. but i think you're right. impartiality , aon over that impartiality, a growing question over that impartiality, then it will mean people questions people start asking questions about how the civil is run. >> well, em- bani worried >> well, well, i'm just worried how how we actually look and measure well measure their productivity. well anyway, we measure the fact that they haven't managed to do many. >> the home office is one >> well, the home office is one that measure. need >> well, the home office is one th.all measure. need >> well, the home office is one th.all come measure. need >> well, the home office is one th.all come backiasure. need >> well, the home office is one th.all come backiasithe need >> well, the home office is one th.all come backiasithe office.eed >> well, the home office is one th.athis me backiasithe office.eed >> well, the home office is one th.athis showackiasithe office.eed >> well, the home office is one th.athis showack nothing )ffice. eed >> well, the home office is one th.athis showack nothing without d but this show is nothing without you views. let's you and your views. let's welcome our great british voice. is to be on welcome our great british voice. is show to be on welcome our great british voice. is show tell to be on welcome our great british voice. is show tell uso be on welcome our great british voice. is show tell us whaton welcome our great british voice. is show tell us what they the show and tell us what they think we're think about the topics we're discussing? go to. where discussing? let's go to. where should we go? >> should we go? us? >> it's going to brit school. yayi have a chat yayi let's have a chat with leigh . leigh. can't wait leigh harris. leigh. can't wait to your thoughts on this. leigh harris. leigh. can't wait to do 'our thoughts on this. leigh harris. leigh. can't wait to do youthoughts on this. leigh harris. leigh. can't wait to do you got?]hts on this. leigh harris. leigh. can't wait to do you got? whati this. leigh harris. leigh. can't wait to do you got? what d0|is. leigh harris. leigh. can't wait to do you got? what do you think? >> 100? >> 100? >> yes, of course they are nana andifs >> yes, of course they are nana and it's not for the first time. >> it's been obvious for a long
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time that our civil service has been infiltrated by woke self entitled, left wing activists who are ideologically opposed to government policies. and we've seen many examples of this over. you know, you may remember, patel had to take rare steps dunng patel had to take rare steps during a ministerial direction just to get on just to get to work on the rwanda plan, and they tried to frustrate brexit. >> they unbelievably tried to stop suella braverman mr farage and they managed to get dominic raab to resign, all they raab to resign, all while they were constantly leaking to the media. >> it's against the civil service. >> please stop talking. lee, we can't hear you. sadly, your audio . oh no, this audio is terrible. oh no, this is terrible. i really want to see you had say well. see what you had to say as well. this like. this is annoying. it's like. that's this is annoying. it's like. tha normally. is tech all this is annoying. it's like. tha normally . is tech all sorted, >> normally. is tech all sorted, doesn't he? >> it's like he's in a hotel somewhere. >> i think he's been out for the night. >> we have to be quick, though, because levin coming because angela levin is coming in. timings. in in. we get her timings. i'm in trouble. in. we get her timings. i'm in trotabsolutely. got >> absolutely. i'm just got a lot today. she's she's lot to say today. she's she's got to say. got lots to say. >> so we'll give me another chance we don't get him in chance if we don't get him in the next few seconds. no. oh, well, listen, think
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well, listen, i think we're going him, well, listen, i think we're goirafraid. him, well, listen, i think we're goirafraid. oh him, i'm afraid. oh >> all right, he'll be back. he'll be back next week. >> he'll be back. we couldn't get apologies. >> he'll be back. we couldn't get the apologies. >> he'll be back. we couldn't get the fabulouslogies. >> he'll be back. we couldn't get the fabulouslogharrison. >> he'll be back. we couldn't get �*somewhere;logharrison. >> he'll be back. we couldn't get “somewhere .ogharrison. >> he'll be back. we couldn't get “somewhere . looks ison. >> he'll be back. we couldn't get “somewhere . looks like bristol somewhere. looks like he's in a hotel room, somewhere in skegness. but skegness is lovely way. to lovely, by the way. still to come, difficult come, my difficult conversations. jessica albers will be here live in the studio to her experiences to tell us about her experiences with surgery. but up with plastic surgery. but up next and 11 will be here give next and 11 will be here to give us the latest from
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good afternoon. you're with me. i'm nana akua. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. just a few emails that have come in. patricia said that have come in. patricia said that we should copy america in their which has their party in power, which has its own employees. that would stop rubbish reduce stop all the rubbish and reduce the number. this is about civil servants. and said, servants. and patrick said, i remember a young civil remember as a young civil servant working days week, servant working six days a week, getting early to getting in the office early to support my family. just don't support my family. i just don't recognise work at recognise the demands of work at home civil servants. today we'll
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keep coming, but keep those thoughts coming, but now there's always something going royal household now there's always something going week royal household now there's always something going week hasyal household now there's always something going week has been usehold now there's always something going week has been no hold and this week has been no different. and each saturday i love to give a rundown. and love to give you a rundown. and who so than royal who better to do so than royal biographer levin? biographer angela levin? angela levin , you've got some exciting levin, you've got some exciting news spent a lot of time >> i spent a lot of time yesterday watching the netflix group, which is actually how, prince andrew was persuaded to talk . oh, that and what? talk. oh, that and what? >> he lost his job and he lost his, he lost his titles and everything else. yeah, it was, it was it was quite interesting , it was it was quite interesting, but a little bit disappointing. i mean, first of all, you knew how it was going to be done, then all the waiting then then all the waiting and then you actual documentary. you saw the actual documentary. and documentary he does and in the documentary he does say the most extraordinary things. one of them that prince andrew said is why are you going on and on about, you know, one person when actually i spent much more time talking si king
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to, oh, you know , what's his to, oh, you know, what's his name? gosh, sorry, i'm messing this up , no name? gosh, sorry, i'm messing this up, no you're not. >> you're doing fine. so this scoop thing, though, this is prince andrew's interview with emily maitlis, and this is finding how that he actually finding out how that he actually got this, this how he got she finding out how that he actually got him this how he got she finding out how that he actually got him to is how he got she finding out how that he actually got him to do 10w he got she finding out how that he actually got him to do this�*ie got she finding out how that he actually got him to do this interview. >> yes. it was jimmy savile who spent lot of time with. spent a lot of time with. >> so he thought so he talks about spent time with about how he spent time with jimmy savile as well. god, my goodness. >> are you doing that? we >> why are you doing that? we had three good actors, the, the actress who played for, sam mcallister, billie piper was perfect because i know her quite well, and she had the walk. she had the expressions, she had the anguish of being a single mother and trying to work and do that. it was really well. and then andrew, by rufus sewell, andrew, played by rufus sewell, he couldn't put enough weight on. so they had to give him prosthetics for the jaw. and also to show his bottom, which we all see when he comes out of
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the bath. i'm not quite sure we need that. i'm not quite sure why why is that relevant that. but anyway. and it just, it was very interesting because emily maitlis , who was the one who did maitlis, who was the one who did the interview, if had closed the interview, if you had closed your eyes, she sounded just like margaret thatcher. absolutely. because she played her in in the crown and she sort of carried that through with her and, it was the thing is that there's a fight allegedly going on between the, emily and sam and emily is doing her own show about this three parter, in a few months time and you think, really, that's enough. you know, we know what happened to prince andrew. we know he got, punished for it, and yet it's gone on and on and on.andi and yet it's gone on and on and on. and i think it was a bit of a waste of time, really. it doesn't really tell you what actually you've got. yes. >> that was pretty dull. i mean, you that hear they
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you know, that to hear how they got the interview prince got the interview off of prince andrew we all andrew and yes, you know, we all know that, don't you? was know that, don't you? it was disaster. andrew made a bit of a mess. thought he was doing mess. he thought he was doing a good and he bad job in good job and he did a bad job in the just. but the end. i mean, it's just. but what royal now? what about royal tours now? apparently balmoral is open. yes >> for the first time since 1855, it's being open for people. king charles had wanted to turn it into to a place where people could come and visit, because he doesn't like staying there. he's got a place further away . and so they're going to away. and so they're going to let people in and some people said, oh, nobody's interested. how boring. who wants to do that? but within less than a day, all the tickets were sold. they're priced at £100 or £150. if you want tea. proper tea. oh, i'd love that. yes. and i think it's got a lot of interest. the queen died there. she went there every summer for a holiday where she always had a picnic for lunch. and it's. it's a beautiful place. the landscape
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is absolutely gorgeous. and i think that, people will longing to go the whole, website collapse because there were so many people trying to do it. and you have to go up there, and i think it's a good idea. think think it's a good idea. i think if you want to know where the money goes, it will be preserving that you can preserving it so that you can keep in good condition. the keep it in good condition. the queen interest in what queen had no interest in what was surrounding her from fires to wallpaper. she really didn't care . and you can see what care. and you can see what happenedin care. and you can see what happened in the 70s. perhaps it was done for 2030 years ago. and i think it's a very interesting. >> have you been have you been there ? there? >> no, i haven't been there. but a long time ago i went to up there to see it, but i can't remember. i was small so remember. i was quite small so it would be lovely, but i think i've missed a chance because i have have gone, have all the tickets have gone, but on that one. have all the tickets have gone, but also on that one. have all the tickets have gone, but also buckingham that one. have all the tickets have gone, but also buckingham palace.e. have all the tickets have gone, but also buckingham palace. you but also buckingham palace. you can go in for cheaper for can go in for a much cheaper for 75% in a month, july to august, and here you're going to be allowed to go to the edge of the
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balcony and look down and pretend that you're the queen royal. yeah, lovely, and i think that's nice. and because the west wing is going to be finished after seven years working on it now, people again are saying , how much working on it now, people again are saying, how much has it cost? and it's ridiculous, but you need to make it all right, because the gas and the electricity and all those things were getting quite dangerous because the queen didn't want anything done there. and king charles doesn't want to live there either. so that's the i think it's a very good idea to do that. it's the money is not for him. it's to preserve these buildings so people enjoy buildings so people can enjoy them. make it all more them. and make it all more accessible. he's more accessible , and so the places are more accessible so that was, a good idea, i think. >> yeah. fantastic idea. oh, brilliant. >> yeah. lastly, meghan . oh, >> yeah. lastly, meghan. oh, gosh. quickly. >> we're running out of time. >> we're running out of time. >> let's go for it. yes. page six has said it's going to six has said that it's going to be hopeless, that her idea of being a guru in the kitchen is
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not going to work because nobody's giving money to her, and they don't really want to be another meghan. so i think it's going to end because it's ridiculous to come out with just oneidea ridiculous to come out with just one idea of what's coming up, and then it's still not coming up.and and then it's still not coming up. and if you miss that, you probably miss all the summer. you things, grown you have to get things, grown yourself. so maybe it's just another of these things that she started and isn't finishing. >> it will be another one. angela levin, thank you so much. very good to talk to that's very good to talk to you. that's royal levin. royal biographer angela levin. keep all your thoughts coming gb views or tweet views at gb news. com or tweet me at gb news. i'm nana akua still to come. my difficult conversation. jessica alves will be live in the studio to be here live in the studio to tell us about her experiences with plastic surgery . after with plastic surgery. after spending more than £1 million on cosmetic procedures, you won't want to miss that. let's get an update weather. update with your weather. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb
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news. >> good afternoon. welcome to your latest gb news weather from the met office. storm kathleen is still very much the talking point of our weather over the next day situated out to next day or so. situated out to the of uk, going the west of the uk, it's going to some strong the west of the uk, it's going to through ne strong the west of the uk, it's going to through the strong the west of the uk, it's going to through the of)ng winds through the rest of saturday and into the start of sunday. winds sunday. those strongest winds likely across western parts of the uk, northern ireland and scotland, seeing gusts scotland, perhaps seeing gusts of 60 to 70 miles an hour through evening . through the rest of the evening. but it's through saturday evening. of showers evening. a band of showers pushes north and pushes its way north and eastwards. these likely to eastwards. these are likely to turn hail eastwards. these are likely to turnthunder hail eastwards. these are likely to turn thunder mixed hail eastwards. these are likely to turnthunder mixed in hail eastwards. these are likely to turnthunder mixed in for hail and thunder mixed in for southwestern parts of uk. southwestern parts of the uk. we'll turn drier for we'll gradually turn drier for much of the uk through the early hours morning, and it hours of sunday morning, and it will be mild start to sunday will be a mild start to sunday as well, with temperatures generally in the high generally holding up in the high single a brief generally holding up in the high singstart a brief generally holding up in the high singstart across a brief generally holding up in the high singstart across the a brief generally holding up in the high singstart across the uk,a brief generally holding up in the high singstart across the uk, another dry start across the uk, another band of showers pushes its way north and eastwards through sunday morning, again turning quite places . perhaps quite heavy in places. perhaps some localised flooding and travel disruption. still, a widely windy day on sunday. the strongest winds, though across
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northwestern parts of scotland again there could be gusts here of 60 to miles an hour. so of 60 to 70 miles an hour. so there could be some travel disruption through the afternoon. another mild day across the uk, but temperatures down a touch on saturday, maybe 16 south 16 or 17 degrees in the south but average . monday but still above average. monday starts dry for northern ireland and parts of scotland, but further south, another band of rain from rain pushes up from the southwest monday southwest through monday morning, so turning very wet and windy across parts through windy across these parts through monday afternoon. remaining unsettled through the first part of next week, temperatures still remaining a little bit remaining a little a little bit above average, but hints of something the something drier through the second half of the week looks like things are heating up. >> boxt boilers sponsors of weather on
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have been cancelled due to storm kathleen, with gusts up 70mph recorded in northern ireland and the west of britain, around 70 flights have been cancelled, so far. a yellow weather warning for wind is in effect until 10:00 tonight and covers cornwall , much of wales and cornwall, much of wales and parts of lancashire and cumbria, and up into central scotland and northern ireland. heathrow airport have collided, causing damage to their wings. footage shows a virgin atlantic plane's wing touching a british airways aircraft surrounded by emergency services. the virgin boeing 787 nine plane had completed a flight and was being towed to a different part of the airfield. it's understood, though , that it's understood, though, that there were no passengers on board the board at the time of the incident . rail passengers are incident. rail passengers are facing fresh travel disruption as train drivers continue to strike in a long running dispute over pay members of aslef at six companies have walked out,
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leaving some areas with no services all day. chiltern, transpennine express and northern will not run any trains and there will be a reduced service on great western, lner and heathrow express. engineering work means there will be no trains between london paddington and reading . the paddington and reading. the torso, found at a nature reserve in salford, belonged to a man aged older than 40. a murder investigation was launched by greater manchester police after the body part was found wrapped in plastic at castle downs. the victim is believed to have been dead for a matter of days. dna tests are ongoing to identify the man . climate activist greta the man. climate activist greta thunberg has been detained by dutch police during a demonstration in the hague. thunberg was put in a large bus by officers along with other protesters who tried to block a major highway into the administrative capital of the netherlands. the 21 year old activist was protesting against the dutch government's fossil fuel subsidies.
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the dutch government's fossil fuel subsidies . a conservative fuel subsidies. a conservative mp says he was the first whistleblower to alert police to the parliamentary honey trap sixteen scandal. bosworth mp doctor luke evans says he was the victim of cyber flashing as he met as the met police launched an investigation into unsolicited messages with leicestershire police on thursday . tory mp leicestershire police on thursday. tory mp william leicestershire police on thursday . tory mp william wragg thursday. tory mp william wragg told the times he'd sent intimate pictures of himself to someone on a gay dating app , and someone on a gay dating app, and was then manipulated into providing colleagues phone numbers . so providing colleagues phone numbers. so far, around a dozen mps, staff and journalists are known to have been targeted . known to have been targeted. >> the first set of messages i got was on a day i was with my wife, and i got a one time open photo on whatsapp of an explicit image of a naked lady. as soon as i got these the next day, i reported it to the police and the authorities and the chief whip. ten days later, i got another set of messages. this time, however , i was sat with my
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time, however, i was sat with my team in the constituency office, so we were able to record the conversation and catch photos and videos of the messages coming through, including another explicit female image. i put my name up to say , well, i put my name up to say, well, i hope others come forward. i'm just pleased i blew the whistle, reported it to authorities, reported it to the authorities, and into . and it's now being looked into. >> nearly £17 million worth of drugs been seized by the drugs has been seized by the royal navy after it intercepted smuggling speedboats in the canbbean smuggling speedboats in the caribbean sea across two operations. hms trent seized 200kg of cocaine following a port visit to the island of martinique. defence secretary grant shapps says it shows the navy's commitment to disrupt and dismantle drug traffickers . and dismantle drug traffickers. and finally, today marks the 50th anniversary of abba's famous win at the eurovision song contest, which elevated the swedish pop group to international fame. waterloo couldn't escape if i wanted to . their fans gathered
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wanted to. their fans gathered today at london's waterloo station to pay tribute by singing the song that won them the contest. abba won the music competition with their smash hit waterloo back in 1940 74. for the latest stories, you can sign up to receive news alerts . to up to receive news alerts. to scan the qr code on your screen or go to news.com.au ulez. now it's to . nana. it's over to. nana. >> so good afternoon. if you just tuned in. welcome on board. it's just coming up to six minutes after 5:00 and nana akua this gb and the this is gb news. and for the next and panel will next hour, me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics headlines topics hitting the headlines right show is all right now. this show is all about it's it's about opinion. it's mine, it's theirs. it's theirs. and of course it's yours. we'll be debating, discussing will discussing and at times we will disagree , but no one will be disagree, but no one will be cancelled. so joining me today is broadcaster and columnist lizzie cundy, also a former labour party adviser. matthew laza still to come, difficult
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laza still to come, my difficult conversation today is with tv personality jessica alves , who personality jessica alves, who was formerly known as the human ken doll and has spent upwards of £1 million undergoing over 100 cosmetic procedures . then, 100 cosmetic procedures. then, for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking is it time to ban uk arms sales to israel ? to ban uk arms sales to israel? bofis to ban uk arms sales to israel? boris johnson has described the idea as insane and urged the government to denounce growing calls for the uk arms calls for the uk to halt arms exports to israel. aslef you can get in touch, email gb views at gb news. com or tweet me at . gb gb news. com or tweet me at. gb news. so it's time now for this week's difficult conversation. and today i'm joined by a british brazilian television personality, jessica alves. jessica was formerly known as the human ken doll and has spent over £1 million undergoing over 100 cosmetic procedures to change not just her appearance but her gender. born rodrigo alves in sao paulo, brazil, she
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moved to london at the age of 18 and has been making headlines ever since . now jessica made ever since. now jessica made a splash on celebrity big brother in 2018 and as one of the most colourful and entertaining characters in the showbiz scene, she's become a fixture on the red carpet and i'm delighted to say that jessica alvis joins me live now . jessica, live in the studio now. jessica, thank you so much for coming. >> see you. >> it's so nice to see you. thanks for inviting me. >> well, you look fabulous . >> well, you look fabulous. >> well, you look fabulous. >> crikey, thank you. >> crikey, thank you. >> thank you very much. >> thank you very much. >> so to me because the >> so talk to me because the last time i looked, i think it >> so talk to me because the last only i looked, i think it >> so talk to me because the last only i loiweeki think it >> so talk to me because the last only i loiweek you nk it >> so talk to me because the last only i loiweek you were was only last week you were announcing finally was only last week you were announc all finally was only last week you were announc all these finally finished all these amazing procedures that you've done. talk . why did you talk us through. why did you first of all, choose to change your gender? and then also, you know, now you've got through the procedure. do you feel like you've you've finally finished and to be, and you're where you want to be, change gender is a big decision . change gender is a big decision. >> it wasn't a choice. >> it wasn't a choice. >> it was a condition. >> it was a condition. >> and i regard it as a medical condition. >> so i had to address it
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medically. and i started my transition six years ago, first with psychology treatment and also hormone therapy , followed also hormone therapy, followed by, plastic surgeries , aesthetic by, plastic surgeries, aesthetic surgeries and gender reassignment surgery. >> and voice cord surgery. >> and voice cord surgery. >> so i did everything that i could possibly do with the help of amazing doctors around the world and the support of my friends and family to be a woman and to be the woman that i am today. >> and i'm happy. >> and i'm happy. >> yeah, well, that is the main thing. but how are you funding it? £1 million? i can only dream of that. >> it was spent not in one go. and i'm 40 years old. >> i started having plastic surgeries when i moved to the uk at the age of 18, and it was not all at one go, so i would say i would have a surgery every six months, but even back then i knew i was a woman . knew i was a woman. >> my mind, my spirit, my soul has always been very much female
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and i struggled with my gender identity throughout it, being a child throughout my teenage years. and because not being a biological woman back in the day, i was very much physically bullied, verbally attacked , and bullied, verbally attacked, and i didn't understand why. so what was wrong with me ? but then once was wrong with me? but then once being in england , going to being in england, going to university and making new friends, and now here we i'd like to believe that we live in a free society and that we have a free society and that we have a freedom of speech and freedom to express ourselves however we want . i was able then to start want. i was able then to start my transition very slowly. so basically i was transitioning secret and having surgeries to be a woman in secret . and up to be a woman in secret. and up to the point that i hit that wall, that for me was to live or to
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die . and then i chose to live. die. and then i chose to live. and here i am to tell you story. >> well, you're telling an incredible story, but what, in your view, is a woman, then? because, you know, this is the age old question. so in your view, what is a woman then, if it's not biological? >> there are so there are so many words that we can describe a woman, a woman to me. >> and this is how i would describe myself. so a woman is great. she's gentle. empathetic, feminine , giving, understanding , feminine, giving, understanding, and i really take pride on my appearance as being a woman. i have always liked fashion, but nowadays it's being a woman. i have much more , choices and have much more, choices and opfions have much more, choices and options to choose from. i love getting pampered, getting my nails done and my hair done. obviously does not define what being woman but then if
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being a woman is. but then if you are man, that would be frowned upon to some to take so much care. and even wearing makeup, obviously a lot of men do wear makeup and they do, but it's still frowned upon. so the makeup industry is pretty much mainly designed for us females. so there are a lot of words and there is a there are a lot of words that i could say. and also i got , mess with my i just got, mess with my words right i get right now because i really get very excited when i talk about this. but there are different types of women and female, so, so how do you feel about j.k. rowling , who expressed something rowling, who expressed something that most people would see as real and true, that a biological man can never be a woman ? man can never be a woman? >> and she was saying that, well, how does that make you feel? because you believe that you are woman. you are a woman. >> you are a woman. >> i don't believe that >> i and i don't believe that i'm a woman. a woman, even
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i'm a woman. i am a woman, even my birth certificate has been to changed jessica. i was born female. i was born in brazil. changed jessica. i was born female. i was born in brazil . so female. i was born in brazil. so i do have a brazilian passport, but also i have a british passport. and my both passports also are stated as covers. female and i am a woman in my mind, in my soul, in my appearance, in my body, in the touch of my skin. when i wake up in the morning and i look at myself in the mirror to brush my teeth everybody, the teeth like everybody, i see the image a woman and i never image of a woman and i never felt like a man. therefore, i am a woman. they emotions the feelings inside. so it's very sad to read the red lines, the headlines, lately about jay king rowling, someone that i have read her books growing up, someone that i have always look up to as, as a book writer making remarks about transgender
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people that are so wrong she doesn't understand anything about. she's talking about she's not a doctor. she's not a trained doctor . she's a book trained doctor. she's a book writer. and i think she should stick to what she knows best. >> but she she might argue that she's a woman, though, so she knows that best. >> . so i'm also a woman. >> and so. so i'm also a woman. i'm a transgender woman . she's a i'm a transgender woman. she's a biological woman. but we are. both are women and i throughout the years. when i started my transition, in the beginning, it was quite hard because i still have the appearance of a very androgynous person , androgynous person, transitioning nowadays. my transitioning nowadays. my transition , it's finished, and transition, it's finished, and there are actually people who, not everybody actually know who i am. and once comes up in conversation, say, actually, i'm actually a transgender . people actually a transgender. people get a little bit flabbergasted and confused, but you're so gentle, you're so feminine, your body appearance . i body shape, your appearance. i say, well, that is what i'm have
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always wanted to be. and here i am. you are. but it's her remarks are not unnecessary. they're they're not necessary . they're they're not necessary. they're they're not necessary. they're very indelicate. they are very hurtful. they're very indelicate. they are very hurtful . and she's just are very hurtful. and she's just she's she's creating a very bad reputation for herself. >> i think she's worrying about the blurring of the lines between women and men in that respect. and i think what her concern is not for trans people. i know she's expressed that she loves trans people and she doesn't. it's none of her business. >> so she says that . but she >> so she says that. but she says that loves trans says that she loves trans people. comments are people. but her comments are from someone who is actually transphobic, which comment would you say that in your view? you do not commend on people's race? you do not comment on people's genden you do not comment on people's gender, you do not. those are subjects that you don't point out and talk about, like someone like her with her influence,
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with her name broadcasting her thoughts and feelings on something that she doesn't understand . and it is wrong understand. and it is wrong based on, for example , she says based on, for example, she says that, because as transgender women we do not menstruate, therefore we are not women , but therefore we are not women, but a lot of biological women, not a lot. some biological woman also do not menstruate, but that would be that does not define that. >> but that would be the exception to the rule to define what a woman should be able to be . does it mean that be capable of. does it mean that now there's a new type of woman that menstruate? it's that doesn't menstruate? it's just that this particular type of have one of the of woman doesn't have one of the things she have a things that she should have as a woman. fault or woman. so it's either a fault or something that's as something that's gone wrong as to that. so to why she doesn't have that. so i see what you're saying. some women don't menstruate, but most women don't menstruate, but most women should have the will have the menstruate. women should have the will have the so menstruate. women should have the will have the so i menstruate. women should have the will have the so i mean,ienstruate. women should have the will have the so i mean, look,iate. women should have the will have the so i mean, look, lite. women should have the will have the so i mean, look, i think yeah, so i mean, look, i think her point is, and i obviously speak for her because i'm sort of more with her on this, that biological women are biological women. biological men are biological you biological men. if you transition to be a trans woman
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or a woman, you define or a woman, as you define yourself , then that's that's yourself, then that's that's acceptable to you. but some people see that way people might not see it that way , that's but, know, you , that's all. but, you know, you look as long as look fabulous. and as long as you're happy, i think that's the main thing, it? you're happy, i think that's the ma yes. ing, it? you're happy, i think that's the ma yes. ing, people you're happy, i think that's the ma yes.ing, people , you're happy, i think that's the ma yes. ing, people , they you're happy, i think that's the ma yes.ing, people , they may >> yes. some people, they may not agree with what i'm saying. a also majority of a lot of people also majority of people also do not agree with jake, with jk rowling's opinion. but it's a very delicate matter. i think you don't stare things up like that. and there are different categories of transgender people. and then i always say this if you do believe that you are transgender, either trans men or transformer , then you need help. transformer, then you need help. just wearing a wig and a skirt and walking down the street and say that i'm a woman. that's not good enough. no, the nhs do support people like us. yeah there is a medical department. they will take care of you . they they will take care of you. they will give you psychological treatment. i think the hormone therapy is fundamental. what
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abouti therapy is fundamental. what about i mean, just to just in defence of jk rowling again, she would be saying she's protecting women's rights. >> and said, there are >> and as you said, there are categories of transgender people and some people may be disingenuous. you, some disingenuous. unlike you, some of them won't be as genuine as you. but sorry you were saying about the hormones and things like are your like that. what are your thoughts on the fact that now people under the age think people under the age of i think it's 18 be able to it's 16 or 18 won't be able to access before access those hormones before that age? what do you think? do you think that's the right thing? >> think that's not the right >> i think that's not the right thing. you don't think so? thing. oh, you don't think so? no. time . no. no, no. going back in time. growing up brazil, in growing up in brazil, back in the 80s when i was born in 90s, if have the knowledge that we if we have the knowledge that we have nowadays implemented back in , i wouldn't have to in the day, i wouldn't have to go through so much surgery . i'm go through so much surgery. i'm not a plastic surgery ambassador, by the way, it has been a very painful journey. expensive journey . at times expensive journey. at times i saw death in my eyes. but then now i'm alive and i'm here. and then i find myself beautiful and. and happy. that's the main thing. yeah. if we. if i had
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that type of treatment at the age of 16, out of saved going on my health, putting myself through so much surgery . through so much surgery. >> but then i do know that, though, that though, then, i mean, at that age, know you. age, did you know that you. >> knew, knew. >> i knew, you knew, i knew. but anyone in this country who are a teenager, 13, 14, 16 that feeling in itself that that gender they are assigned at birth is not theirs. they need psychological help and the hormones are fundamental before anything but but again, a lot of these things haven't had the longevity of time to test whether they're fundamentally safe and, you know, it could be argued that the earlier you introduce things that it's literally experimental testing because they don't know they haven't enough , haven't been around long enough, they haven't been in people long enough know. they haven't been in people long enoand know. they haven't been in people long enoand some know. they haven't been in people long enoand some the w. that >> and some of the things that are irreversible. thing >> and some of the things that aretherearsible. thing >> and some of the things that aretherearsilmany thing >> and some of the things that aretherearsilmany people 1ing is, there are many people now detransition or wishing that they hadn't done it so early. so
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my thoughts are if people want to do it, they should do it after 18. or know puberty, but after 18. or i know puberty, but but simply because haven't but simply because they haven't had appropriate medical support. >> if they had the psychological assessment prior to and during their hormone therapy, they would not be regretting it later. stage. i'm 40 years old. i started my transition when i was 3435, and i wish that i started much earlier, but it's easy to say that easier to say it when you're older, to look back. >> if you were younger and you back. >> it you were younger and you back. >> it and were younger and you back. >> it and yous younger and you back. >> it and you regretted and you back. >> it and you regretted it,j you did it and you regretted it, then you've got to with then you've got to live with it. so why i in my view, if so that's why i in my view, if people want to do that, that's hey, listen their own. hey, listen each to their own. i'm happy happy. but i'm happy if they're happy. but my at least my bottom line is that at least when you're older, you can then make the make that decision with all the facts of you. facts in front of you. >> yeah, but i don't see transitioning so transitioning as a choice. so basically what you are saying now, it as if transitioning now, it is as if transitioning is a choice. people for some people who actually a little bit confused without having the support their family or support of their family or a medical may be a
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medical support, it may be a choice, but to majority of us it's not. i have always seen that as a medical condition that i got addressed. yeah, understood. >> so it was not a choice for me. >> it was my choice was to live and die. i chose to live in here. you chose live. here. you chose to live. >> take look >> can we take a look at jessica? because want jessica? jessica because we want to look. you're jessica? jessica because we want to to look. you're jessica? jessica because we want to to stand look. you're jessica? jessica because we want to to stand upok. you're jessica? jessica because we want to to stand upok. ythise going to stand up for us? this is the. you've had all the surgery this it. this is the. you've had all the suthey this it. this is the. you've had all the suthe fabulous his it. this is the. you've had all the suthe fabulous jessica . this is the. you've had all the suthe fabulous jessica alves. is the fabulous jessica alves. look at her. wow >> there's a mic box. >>— >> there's a mic box. >> there's a mic box. >> there's a mic on the mic. so there we go. so that's your almost £1 million of surgery. it's finally done. briefly. what's your next move and where can follow you. can people follow you. >> well people can follow me on my it is jessica my social media. it is jessica alves uk and, i have been here in this country for so many years, but i'm often travelling. l, years, but i'm often travelling. i, i have been doing tv now for the past, 15 years. so i do it around the world so we can flip channels. you see me here? you see in italy and spain, see me in italy and spain, france, everywhere .
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5:00. british debate this hour. great british debate this hour. and i'm asking, is it time to ban arms sales to israel? ban uk arms sales to israel? following the deaths of seven aid including three aid workers, including three brits, in an israeli air strike on monday, mps from all major parties and hundreds of lawyers have on government to have called on the government to end arms exports to israel. but bons end arms exports to israel. but boris johnson has condemned the idea, labelling it insane because it would imply that the uk was willing. the military defeat of israel . the former defeat of israel. the former prime minister also criticised foreign secretary lord cameron for not publicly dismissing the idea. so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking is it time to ban uk arms sales to israel? well, to discuss this, i'm the i'm joined by chairman of the national jewish assembly, gary mond, also former labour spokesperson james mathewson am james matthewson. i'm going to start with you, james. >> yes, thanks, nana. thanks for me. i think the issue that's important here to remember and the thing i think we need to focus on time and time again is britain's involvement in this. you know, there are obviously many opinions on situation many opinions on the situation in gaza all around world.
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in gaza all around the world. we've un human rights we've had the un human rights council obviously announcing that think arms sales that they think that arms sales should be banned and that they warned of signs of genocide in gaza, you know, the actions of israel. so it's about whether we want to be seen on the world stage to do the right thing, because britain's contribution is small. i know that it is small in the grand scheme of things. with regard to arms sales to israel. however, me sales to israel. however, for me this is about principle and we've seen so many people taken to the streets in britain to stand up for what they believe in and they do not want to see their country, government , their country, their government, still being complicit, because that's what it implies , as boris that's what it implies, as boris johnson saying that it implies that we're willing the military defeat of israel if we stop selling arms to them. that's not true. what is true is that it implies when you continue to sell weapons to somebody who is misusing , sell weapons to somebody who is misusing, using those weapons, to put it lightly, misusing those weapons , 33,000 people those weapons, 33,000 people dead, children dying every day.
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you know, when we've got a situation like that, you cannot just continue to justify the use of those weapons. so for it of those weapons. so for me, it would of a principled would be more of a principled stand for the uk government to say , no, we do not tolerate that say, no, we do not tolerate that use of weapons those way and use of weapons in those way and will withdraw the right to sell arms. >> are you okay with the high license percentage of arms that we license to qatar? because it's much bigger than israel, because there's no point not to. and you know who's behind hamas? obviously, the qatar, the leaders for are qatar. leaders for hamas are in qatar. this is what we know. so you're all let's to all right with that. let's go to gary mond firstly gary mond. gary mond firstly i want your viewers want to give give your viewers a piece information . piece of information. >> you mentioned there's 600 lawyers who've letter lawyers who've signed a letter saying that it's illegal for britain to carry on supplying arms to israel. there is another letter that's been produced over the last 24 hours. and so far there are 800 lawyers who are saying perfectly saying that it is perfectly legal for israel to, for the uk to supply arms to israel. >> and we, of course, wait at the final vinyl verdict on this.
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>> so that's the first thing. secondly, there is a war going on and in a war there are going to be lots of casualties, lots of civilian casualties. the actual ratio of civilian casualties to terrorist casualties to terrorist casualties is roughly 1 to 1, which is incredibly low in this type of conflict. and so we have to also look at what is in britain's best interest and britain's best interest and britain's best interest is the eradication middle east eradication in the middle east of islamic fundamentalism. unless we succeed in doing that, there's no possible future for peace in the region. and that is what israel is trying to do. and this country must do its very best to support israel in that regard. >> but would say regard. » but >> but what would you say to james's point about being complicit? point to complicit? and he did point to the 33,000, which i understand may figures, but may be hamas figures, but admittedly , thousands of people admittedly, thousands of people would been killed. admittedly, thousands of people wotwell, been killed. admittedly, thousands of people wotwell, would killed. admittedly, thousands of people wotwell, would killepoint admittedly, thousands of people wotwell, would kille point out >> well, i would just point out that this is a war. and in a war, tragically, civilians do die. and yet the proportion of civilians compared to the
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proportion of terrorists who are being killed, thanks israel being killed, thanks to israel being killed, thanks to israel being , in my being killed, thanks to israel being, in my view, the most moral army the in moral army in the world in comparison to other countries is incredibly that's i incredibly low. that's what i would say to him. >> james, your thoughts? >> james, your thoughts? >> yeah, i mean, i was obviously prepared for gary's comments coming on here, but i mean, that's absolutely despicable to be done be honest. what you've just done there, the there, gary, is justify the murder children murder of children because terrorists dying . you terrorists are also dying. you are aware there's a way to do this without situations this without both situations being . and in britain's being true. and in britain's best britain's best best interests, britain's best interests. you know, british civilians have just been killed by an easy way to do this. >> and that is for hamas to surrender. >> that would be an act of war in many situations against a nafion in many situations against a nation state. >> gary has made a good point there. >> hamas are a terrorist organisation. they are despicable. their actions are despicable. their actions are despicable. israel is a nation state. it has to be better. and killing children is not an example, james. >> but james, it's james. just just to interject there. the only reason why israel doesn't
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look like gaza is because of the iron dome. i mean, you are aware that the rockets. >> of gm.- eml- eml— >> yeah, of course, but so if we go with you. >> so if we go with your view and make sure that israel don't have any arms so they can't even stop the rockets, what is your what the outcome stop the rockets, what is your wha'be the outcome stop the rockets, what is your wha'be there the outcome stop the rockets, what is your wha'be there . the outcome will be there. >> that's not what i'm saying. is shipments to israel now of arms are not stopping israel from their own arms production. israel is one of the most well equipped . the idf are one of the equipped. the idf are one of the most well equipped armies in the world, but gary, you say one of the most moral. yeah, but. >> but if the other countries do the the other countries >> but if the other countries do thethe the other countries >> but if the other countries do thethe same, he other countries >> but if the other countries do thethe same, they her countries >> but if the other countries do thethe same, they her co be ries >> but if the other countries do thethe same, they her co be gary do the same, they won't be gary the other, the other countries do the same, they won't be gary the for, ar, the other countries do the same, they won't be gary the for, er, 1them her countries do the same, they won't be gary the for, er, 1them herdecide. es do the same, they won't be gary the i'm er, 1them herdecide. es do the same, they won't be gary the i'm saying m herdecide. es do the same, they won't be gary the i'm saying what decide. es do the same, they won't be gary the i'm saying what britain es >> i'm saying what britain should britain's should do because britain's contribution it contribution is small, but it should this moral should be making this moral statement and saying, you're not using to using weapons. we give you to kill children, and you're certainly not using them kill certainly not using them to kill british certainly not using them to kill britfinal weapons. gary, the >> final weapons. gary, the weapons are being used to help kill hamas terrorists. we have to eradicate hamas. obviously, every genuine civilian death is
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regrettable, and we and israel seeks to minimise those , but it seeks to minimise those, but it must absolutely wipe out hamas . must absolutely wipe out hamas. thatis must absolutely wipe out hamas. that is a first and foremost initiative. and to free the hostages there are moral evil. >> it's a moral evil to kill children. it's not regrettable. >> well , you children. it's not regrettable. >> well, you should tell that to hamas as well. >> try telling that to hamas and what did hamas do on the 7th of october? >> to hamas. october? children. >> they hold on one of the children of their parents. >> that's what hamas did. >> that's what hamas did. >> i'm going to give you >> gary, i'm going to give you a final, james, to give you a chance to respond to that. yeah but it's awful. but if you take sorry. go on. >> all sorry. go on. >>-all at sorry. go on. » au >> they all look at that discuss hamas terrorist hamas are a terrorist organisation. they have committed the most heinous and disgusting man disgusting crimes known. a man that does not justify a nation to state respond like for like, look what the taliban did to people. we didn't do that in afghanistan. we did not respond with brutal brutality in the same fashion earlier. >> james. >> james. >> better. and it has to be better than this. >> all earlier you did say
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>> all you earlier you did say that there's better way. you that there's a better way. you did beginning did say at the very beginning and i wanted you very and i wanted to ask you very briefly, you've got 10s. what is that way ? that better way? >> the better way for >> the better way is for netanyahu's government to actually get these hostages released so they can start bringing about a peace negotiation. there is no evidence they even bothering evidence they are even bothering themselves to do that. they are hell destruction hell bent on the destruction with all respect, it's down to hamas to give them back. >> asked , listen, >> and they have asked, listen, thank you so gary morton, thank you so much. gary morton, chairman and also james assembly, and also james mathewson, labour mathewson, former labour spokesperson. gb spokesperson. wow. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. still to come. we'll continue great british continue with a great british debate asking, debate this hour. i'm asking, is it arms to it time to ban uk arms sales to israel ? it time to ban uk arms sales to israel? you'll hear it time to ban uk arms sales to israel ? you'll hear the thoughts israel? you'll hear the thoughts of my panel matthew and of my panel matthew laza and lizzie let's lizzie cundy. but first let's get with get your latest news with tatiana . tatiana sanchez. >> nana. thank you. the top stories this hour. storm kathleen has brought strong winds and a provisional highest temperature of the year so far. after a recording of 20.9 c in suffolk . while dozens of flights
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suffolk. while dozens of flights have been cancelled due to storm kathleen, with up to gusts of 70mph in northern ireland and the west of britain , around 140 the west of britain, around 140 flights have been called off so far . a yellow weather warning far. a yellow weather warning for wind is in effect until 10:00 tonight and covers cornwall, much of wales , parts cornwall, much of wales, parts of lancashire and cumbria and up into central scotland and, of course, northern ireland. meanwhile two planes on the runway at heathrow airport have collided, causing damage to their wings. footage shows the virgin atlantic plane's wing touching a british airways aircraft surrounded by emergency services. the virgin boeing 787 nine plane had completed a flight and was being towed to a different part of the airfield. it's understood there were no passengers on board at the time of the incident . rail passengers of the incident. rail passengers are facing fresh travel disruption as train drivers continue striking in a long running pay dispute. members of aslef at six companies have walked out, leaving some areas with no services. all day.
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chiltern, transpennine express and northern will not run any trains and there'll be a reduced service on great western, lner and heathrow express . and heathrow express. engineering work means there will be no trains between london paddington and reading, and the torso found at a nature reserve in salford, belonged to a man aged older than 40. a murder investigation was launched by greater manchester police after the body part was found wrapped in plastic at kersal wetlands. the victim is believed to have been dead for a matter of days. dna tests are ongoing to identify the man , and today identify the man, and today marks the 50th anniversary of abba's famous win at the eurovision song contest, which elevated the swedish pop group to international fame. waterloo couldn't escape if i wanted to . couldn't escape if i wanted to. their fans gathered today at london's waterloo station to pay tribute by singing the song that won them the contest. abba won the european music competition
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with their smash hit waterloo in 1974. for the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news .com/ alerts . now it's back to . nana. >> so coming up. thank you. tatiana. what on earth is going on here? and whose birthday are they celebrating? i'll reveal all in clickbait next. so we'll continue with the great british debate this hour. and i'm asking, it time ban arms
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ban uk arms sales to israel? following the deaths of seven aid including aid workers, including three brits air strike brits in an israeli air strike on monday, mps from all major parties hundreds of lawyers parties and hundreds of lawyers have called on the government to end exports to israel. but end arms exports to israel. but bons end arms exports to israel. but boris johnson has condemned the idea, labelling it insane because it would imply that the uk was willing. military uk was willing. the military defeat of israel and the former prime minister also prime minister had also criticised foreign secretary lord cameron for not publicly dismissing idea. lord cameron for not publicly dismissing idea . so for the dismissing the idea. so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking is it time to ban uk arms sales to israel? well, joining me now to discuss broadcaster and columnist lizzie cundy and also author and author. you haven't written anything, ? anything, have you, matthew? >> author of speeches, author speeches, books speeches, articles, but no books . no books. >> storm babet eberechi eze matthew laza. i'm going to matthew laza. well, i'm going to start with you, lizzie cundy. >> well, look, it's terrible what's . and i think what's happening. and i think every, one of us every, every one of us wants this stop . and the loss this war to stop. and the loss of life is so tragic. every, every life is precious and sacred. but lord david cameron and many other international commentators have never been to
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war. sadly, mistakes are made and it usually means loss of life. that's war. sadly, when the hamas are, you know, did what they did on the 7th of october, there were consequences that were going to happen. and look, mistakes happen in war often. look what the americans have done to the british forces before . i think it was in 2003, before. i think it was in 2003, a british tank was shot at, living in a war zone, sadly, is a isn't a risk free endeavour and lives are lost and it is tragic. it's shocking. and i know the people of israel and the military will see every death as a tragedy, but so are hamas a tragedy? >> and i agree with that. we'll stop then . this wouldn't be stop then. this wouldn't be happening, matthew. no, absolutely. >> i mean, look, let's should >> i mean, look, let's we should never hamas, never forget the hamas, awful attacks , started this, and we attacks, started this, and we must never forget the hostages that are still being held and all the families who are still waiting ones to
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waiting for their loved ones to come home, not just in israel, but, know, were other but, you know, there were other nationalities as well. so nationalities there as well. so having and i'm having said that, and i'm a strong israel's strong supporter of israel's right to defend itself. right at the beginning of this, the american said american secretary of state said it matters does this. it matters how israel does this. and i'm very, very and i think that i'm very, very worried that the netanyahu government hasn't plan to government hasn't got a plan to end it, apart from basically flattening not flattening gaza, which is not sustainable , on either a sustainable, on either a political or humanitarian level. so i mean, i think a lot of people calling for the britain to stop doing it should realise that we only sell about £40 million. going million. it's not going to happen because apparently most of sell are widgets that of what we sell are widgets that go inside things the americans make. won't let go inside things the americans ma they'll won't let go inside things the americans mathey'll pressure won't let go inside things the americans ma they'll pressure on on't let go inside things the americans ma they'll pressure on us. let us, they'll put pressure on us. so it's quite performative. but israel needs to stop and think . israel needs to stop and think. and at least we saw the aid crossings open on friday. >> well, the qataris >> well, what about the qataris then? because on the list of the licenses qatar . licenses at the top was qatar. these are people that we licensed weapons qatar licensed weapons to. qatar was at of the list. and at the top of the list. and obviously hamas leaders are in qatar and all the brokering is happening in qatar. >> there's questions qatar. >> you are saying this >> yes, you are saying this whilst pontificating whilst people are pontificating saying, .
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saying, oh, we must have arms. you know, we're quite happy to carry. >> hate signalling. >> i hate virtue signalling. absolutely >> that's what i'm saying. >> that's what i'm saying. >> so i'm not, not think >> so i'm not, i'm not i think we to happens. we need to see what happens. this week. we need israel to open the humanitarian, continue to humanitarian to keep the humanitarian corridors open. we need to see cameron's to an cameron's going to have an updated advice. but people updated legal advice. but people who an immediate updated legal advice. but people who now, an immediate updated legal advice. but people who now, i an immediate updated legal advice. but people who now, i think an immediate updated legal advice. but people who now, i think is an immediate updated legal advice. but people who now, i think is prematureiate updated legal advice. but people who now, i think is premature .te ban now, i think is premature. but israel needs to behave. >> this. >> but the war could stop this. second, hamas give up the second, if hamas give up the hostages. they hostages. absolutely. and they should stop firing should do it. and stop firing the rockets. and they're hiding amongst civilians in amongst their civilians in hospitals, in schools. so look, we all want peace. we all want this to stop. but hamas could do it this second if they wanted to. absolutely. >> absence of doing >> but in the absence of doing that, israel has to prosecute the that's in line the war in a way that's in line with international law, because i moral i want israel to have the moral high appalling high ground after the appalling attacks in october. i want israel around attacks in october. i want isra world. around attacks in october. i want israworld. and around attacks in october. i want israworld. and i around attacks in october. i want israworld. and i don't around attacks in october. i want israworld. and i don't want)und attacks in october. i want israworld. and i don't want t0|d the world. and i don't want to see it losing political support. >> know, well, >> oh, well, you know, well, listen , i've i think listen, i've got a i just think that is ridiculous that this is ridiculous that people not involved people who are not involved within the war or not ever experiencing a war zone, saying that these people should literally supplying that these people should literally they'reipplying that these people should literally they're more ng israel when they're more than
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comfortable supplying. yeah, he is playing games more happy is playing games more than happy supplying like qatar and supplying people like qatar and others probably others who are probably supplying so i supplying hamas. exactly so i just find it all a bit ridiculous. let's see what ridiculous. but let's see what you've been saying. i've been asking, is it time ban uk asking, is it time to ban uk arms israel ? lots of arms sales to israel? lots of you getting in touch you have been getting in touch with your views, henry says. i believe that we believe very strongly that we should continue to support israel. they are defending themselves in a war started by hamas. sadly, war people hamas. sadly, in war people are hurt. has explained what hurt. israel has explained what happened punished happened and punished their people. the mistake. people. who made the mistake. christopher says it's past time to facilitating this war. to stop facilitating this war. far too many innocent civilians have been murdered. it's clear they are not interested in the lives of civilians. enough is enough , david said. absolutely enough, david said. absolutely not. israel sell far more defence items to us. and defence related items to us. and can you imagine how that would go exactly? we rely on their sales to us for our armed forces. it would be madness. this is a war that israel is fighting for, for their very existence. well that's what they're saying. but let's see what have you say, because this show without show is nothing without them. let's welcome our great british voices, their opportunity to be
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on and tell us what on the show and tell us what they think about the topics we're i've got three they think about the topics weyou. i've got three they think about the topics weyou. i'm i've got three they think about the topics weyou. i'm going i've got three they think about the topics weyou. i'm going toe got three they think about the topics weyou. i'm going to start three they think about the topics weyou. i'm going to start with of you. i'm going to start with juue of you. i'm going to start with julie bedfordshire. julie ford in bedfordshire. juue julie ford in bedfordshire. julie do you it's time julie do you think it's time that funding parts or that we stopped funding parts or selling arms to hamas? julie >> hi. >> hi. >> good afternoon. nana, i do have a little bit more personal insight into this than than others. >> i was married to a squaddie for 20 years, and he actually saw action in the gulf war. >> so i'm aware of how war >> so i'm fully aware of how war impacts everybody. for me, i don't think we should stop selling arms to israel at the end of the day, if we do that, they will become more vulnerable because they won't be able to defend . and war to defend themselves. and war to a degree be equal that way. >> there are rules of engagement to war as well, and we have to make sure that both sides are adhenng make sure that both sides are adhering to that . adhering to that. >> and, you know, if they're making attempts to hit civil and aid workers on purpose, then that's certainly a breach of those rules of engagement. >> thanks, julie. let's go to david in watford. david baum. >> hi, nana, first of all, i
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need to have my colours to the mast. >> i'm jewish. i'm very proud to be jewish people. the people calling for israel to be disarmed. forget that hamas and hezbollah and all the terrorists are being armed by iran and russia. this has they cannot expect britain to stop and israel to go , oh, okay, then israel to go, oh, okay, then we'll we won't fire any more. they hamas committed genocide. they hamas committed genocide. they committed murder. the pubuchy they committed murder. the publicity that they generate is higher than israel's. and unless people understand what's going to happen if, if, if britain and the other agents countries stop supplying arms, they have a very , very narrow minded. this would be the opening of bloodshed on a global conquest, because hamas and their ilk would have a field day. >> all right, let's go to gareth wyn jones. thank you for that in snowdonia, gareth. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> it's just a >> yeah. >> it'sjust a sad >> yeah. >> it's just a sad situation, isn't it, when you see what's happening, on both sides .
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happening, on both sides. >> and, we don't want bloodshed. but at the end of the day , you but at the end of the day, you know, these people been know, these people have been armed and if you're not armed, then there's going to be a problem. so it's very, very hard, i think for governments to stop, giving people , the stop, giving people, the opportunity to defend themselves and i mean that on both sides. >> and i think it is something hopefully they will have a peaceful , end to this very, very soon. >> well, listen, thank you so much , gareth wyn jones, david much, gareth wyn jones, david baum and also julie ford for your views . there's a great your views. there's a great british voices. thank you. listen my quick quiz, listen coming up my quick quiz, i'm going to test the panel on some stories that caught some of the stories that caught their next some of the stories that caught theitime next some of the stories that caught theitime click next some of the stories that caught theitime click bait. next it's time for click bait. what on happening here? stay on earth is happening here? stay tuned to out.
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this is gb news. we are the people's channel. it's time for the quick fire quiz. the part of the quick fire quiz. the part of the where i test the panel. the show where i test the panel. what about quick clickbait, the show where i test the panel. what abilit quick clickbait, the show where i test the panel. what abii thought ick clickbait, do though? i thought i was gonna do my yes. my clickbait first. oh, yes. here let's do here we go. right, let's do clickbait first. let's do quick. which one are we going to do? click? >> we could say the click bait. >> we could say the click bait. >> we could say the click bait. >> we do click bait. that's what's right. time what's next right. so it's time for let's for click bait. so let's have a look . stay find look. stay tuned. find out though. what though. let's show you what is happening here. on are are somebody said that. yeah. oh bless you la la la i've been rebranded officially. one of the viewers actually made that and sent that to me. so i thought oh i always call him matthew la la. for those on radio, it's a picture of matthew dressed in a la la costume, one of the teletubbies. >> you can wear that for next week, right? >> but now christmas party. >> but now christmas party. >> lizzy. >> lizzy. >> all right. and here we go. now this happened. i'm just wondering, we've wondering, is that because we've been throughout been playing this throughout the
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show, happening show, what on earth is happening here? hey, we got some music. do we have music ? in fact, it is. we have music? in fact, it is. we are at nigel farages party. we're doing that. oops. upside your head down. and that's what's going on. he's just behind me. that is not mine. >> i have no idea which way i'm going. as you can see, i'm opposite to everyone else . opposite to everyone else. >> upside is upside. that one. is that the one? oops >> upside your head i said oops. >> upside your head i said oops. >> there head. come on. >> there you go, head. come on. >> there you go, head. come on. >> right. it's not very coordinated. >> i think we had a few >> no i think we had a few little sherbets drink . little sherbets drink. >> yeah. i believe it was a good night. a good time was had by all. >> so that was course, >> so that was of course, nigel's 60th birthday party. >> it >> if you didn't work, it actually was one the most actually was one of the most best parties. and i've been to some i've been to. some parties. i've been to. happy birthday, nigel. >> birthday. right though. so now for my quick fire now it is time for my quick fire quiz for some of the stories that my eye. okay, right. that caught my eye. okay, right. so let's, hear my buzzers. lizzie cundy , your buzzer, lizzie cundy, your buzzer, please, and also, you matthew laza your brother. please right. brilliant. and please play along
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at home. right. so let's do question one. which conservative mp revealed earlier today that he was one of the targets of the westminster honey truck ? was it westminster honey truck? was it a bernard jenkin, b doctor luke evans c sir peter bottomley? evans or c sir peter bottomley? i that was lizzie cundy, i think that was lizzie cundy, lizzie cundy, b doctor luke evans, doctor luke , he was evans, doctor luke, he was doctor luke evans, it was doctor luke evans. you're absolutely right. saw the clip. he did right. you saw the clip. he did say question. say right. second question. question wins question two closest answer wins . how much does of . how much does the city of venice tourists visit venice charge tourists to visit its historic centre? matthew laza . laza. >> ,14. >>- >> ,14. >> ,14. >> ,14 in euros, by the way. yes ,2,020. let's see. the answer is it's ,5. >> matthew laza 0101010. >> matthew laza 0101010. >> yes, it could be quite time today. well, this is an open question. question three what percentage pay rise will nhs consultants get after agreeing a deal to end their strike action? matthew laza 4,014, 12, 12, said
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lizzie. let's see. the answer is 90. >> well done. >> well done. >> well done. >> well , did i >> well done. >> well, did i say closest answer? windsor. it's no good question. no, that was the one before. any. before. you don't get any. >> oh, god. >> elm-- >> neither of you got it right. true or false? question for dwayne has dwayne the rock johnson has ruled endorsing joe biden in ruled out endorsing joe biden in this year's presidential election, despite doing so in 2020. it's tricky, is it, lizzie 7 2020. it's tricky, is it, lizzie ? oh, lizzie. it's true, it's true. i'll say false. you said false . the answer is true. it is false. the answer is true. it is actually true. >> i think you knew. i knew it was true . but i you know, you was true. but i you know, you tell i. tell me off. i. >> time >> well, last time you acted like, you haven't >> well, last time you acted like, it. you haven't >> well, last time you acted like, it. you've you haven't >> well, last time you acted like, it. you've got haven't done it. you've then got it wrong. all wrong. yeah, absolutely. all right. . how many right. last question. how many kilograms of illegal drugs did the in the the royal navy seize in the canbbean the royal navy seize in the caribbean sea? was it 200kg b 300 or c 400? oh, that was matthew laza b b i say a i'll say a 200. the answer is a 200kg. lizzie cundy takes it to humiliation. >> it's the lie through me, it's through me. i'm in recovery .
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oops. >> upside. >> upside. >> yeah, there's an upside. >> yeah, there's an upside. >> yeah, there's an upside. >> yeah, i'm not joining him on today's show. >> i've been asking our civil servants overstepping the mark. and according to our twitter poll, 94% of you say yes. 6% of you say no. well, i've got to say, really? god, i'm quite surprised at that. are you surprised at that. are you surprised ? no, no. not really. surprised? no, no. not really. well, thank you much to my well, thank you so much to my panel well, thank you so much to my panel, former labour party adviser matthew matthew , thank adviser matthew matthew, thank you so much. and also to lizzie cundy. thank so much, lizzie cundy. thank you so much, lizzie . candy, a pleasure. a . candy, a pleasure. and also a huge you at home huge thank you to you at home for your company. it's been a pleasure. well, that it from pleasure. well, that is it from me. but next it's the me. but up next it's the saturday go saturday five. don't go anywhere. then at nine it's mark dolan mark tonight dolan with mark dolan tonight night. i'll leave you with the weather. enjoy. and don't forget you can catch up live on youtube. or why not download the dup news app? it's completely free. right, look forward free. all right, i look forward to seeing you tomorrow at 3:00. be there be square
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be there or be square. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> good afternoon. welcome to your latest gb news weather from the met office. storm kathleen is still very much the talking point of our weather over the next situated next day or so. situated out to the it's going next day or so. situated out to th
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generally holding up in the high singstart across after brief generally holding up in the high singstart across the fter brief generally holding up in the high singstart across the uk, brief generally holding up in the high singstart across the uk, another dry start across the uk, another band of showers pushes its way north and eastwards through sunday morning, again turning quite perhaps quite heavy in places. perhaps some localised flooding and travel disruption. still, a widely day on sunday. the widely windy day on sunday. the strongest winds, though across northwestern parts scotland northwestern parts of scotland again there could be gusts here of 60 to 70 miles an hour, so there could travel there could be some travel disruption through the afternoon. another mild day across the uk but temperatures down a touch on saturday, maybe 16 17 degrees in south 16 or 17 degrees in the south but average . monday but still above average. monday starts dry for northern ireland but still above average. monday stanparts for northern ireland but still above average. monday stanparts forscotland, ireland and parts of scotland, but further south, another band of rain pushes up from the southwest morning southwest through monday morning , so turning very wet and windy across these parts through monday . remaining monday afternoon. remaining unsettled through the first part of next week. temperatures still remaining a little little bit remaining a little a little bit above average, but hints of something the something drier through the second half of the week looks like are heating up. like things are heating up. >> boxt boilers
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