and chapman, james henderson and james kirby died in airstrikes carried out by the idf on an aid convoy on the 1st of april. the deputy prime minister has denied claims the uk's failing to prepare for war. oliver dowden is defending the government after outgoing armed forces minister james heappey told the telegraph only ministers of the defence officials attended a war time preparation exercise which was meant for the whole of government. former defence secretary ben wallace has backed him up, saying too many in government are just hoping everything away . police everything goes away. police have named a man they're searching for after a woman was stabbed to death in broad daylight in bradford city centre. west yorkshire police detectives say they want to trace 25 year old habiba masum , trace 25 year old habiba masum, who's from the oldham area. they were called to the city centre yesterday afternoon following reports of an attack man reports of an attack by a man who fled the scene. the woman was taken to hospital where she

later died . and former tottenham later died. and former tottenham defender and wimbledon football manager joe kinnear has died at managerjoe kinnear has died at the age of 77. dublin born kinnear, who also managed newcastle, nottingham forest and luton, had been suffering from dementia, having been diagnosed in 2015. he won the fa cup, the league cup and the uefa cup as a player with spurs. his family says he died peacefully this afternoon . for the latest afternoon. for the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts. just scan the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. com slash alerts. now it's over to . mark. over to. mark. >> thanks, tatiana. welcome to a very busy mark dolan tonight in the big story. after a shock poll of local tory councillors. are the conservatives now two left wing.7 my mark meets guest

is the world renowned biographer of king charles, who will give us the inside story of our remarkable monarchs. short but challenging reign. and in my take at ten, angela rayner and the political scandal that won't go away, i'll be dealing with labour's deputy leader in no uncertain terms. at ten. you won't want to miss it. plus, tomorrow's front pages at 1030, with three top pundits who haven't been told what to say and who don't follow the script tonight, former adviser to boris johnson, lord kulveer, ranger, journalist and communicator , journalist and communicator, advisor linda jubilee and author and campaigner for children in care chris wild . and tonight care chris wild. and tonight i'll be asking the pundits six months on, has israel gone too far in its response to october the 7th? far in its response to october the 7th.7 plus the most important part of the show your emails, they come straight to my laptop market. news. com and this market. gb news. com and this show has a golden rule we don't

do boring. not on my watch . i do boring. not on my watch. i just won't have it. so a big two hours to come. lots to get through. angela rayner at ten. but first my big opinion. through. angela rayner at ten. but first my big opinion . have but first my big opinion. have you ever known such a lack of enthusiasm for an incoming government .7 in 1979, fed up government? in 1979, fed up brits ushered in the arrival of margaret thatcher with a sense of hope and optimism off the back of five years of union chaos , economic crisis, chaos, economic crisis, inflation, unemployment and the so—called winter of discontent, dunng so—called winter of discontent, during which there were regular blackouts, piles of rubbish lying uncollected in the streets and dead bodies unburied . and and dead bodies unburied. and similarly, after the exchange rate mechanism crisis under john rate mechanism crisis underjohn major and with a conservative party dogged by allegations of sleaze, tony blair's landslide victory in 1997 felt like a new

chapter for the country. i voted for blair three times. of course they made mistakes , huge they made mistakes, huge mistakes, particularly unchecked mass immigration in. but like under thatcher, those blair administrations were based on sensible levels of taxation , law sensible levels of taxation, law and order, education, a well funded nhs aspiration, social mobility, a powerful city of london, a booming services sector and solid economic growth. and both thatcher and blair won three back to back victories and that did not happen by mistake . well, as we happen by mistake. well, as we sit here, 14 years after david cameron's 2010 victory at the fag end of a tory government, you would expect a clamour for change and a jubilant excitement at the idea of prime minister keir starmer. but it's not there. of course it's not. have you ever met a keir starmer fan ? you ever met a keir starmer fan? finding one is harder than playing a game of where's wally?

and i'm not even sure that there's much of an appetite for labour's policy agenda either. do the public really want more net zero? an expensive experiment which bets the house on flaky renewables and which threatens our economy, way of life and energy security ? life and energy security? remember, starmer was against sunaks decision to grant new gas licences in the north sea, even though in this unstable world where energy costs are through the roof , it makes perfect sense the roof, it makes perfect sense to tap into our own resources . to tap into our own resources. the americans have done that with shale gas, and they have enjoyed high economic growth, low energy costs and lower inflation. when do the public really want more strikes ? are really want more strikes? are you seriously telling me that labour will be tougher with the unions wage busting, inflation busting demands, given that the self—same unions fund the labour party ? does anyone seriously party? does anyone seriously think that labour will be more successful than the tories in stopping illegal immigration

into the country, which is costing taxpayers £7 million a day and destabilised communities? sir keir is on record as saying that he would axe the rwanda plan and i quote , axe the rwanda plan and i quote, even if it works, that's right, he would axe rwanda , even if it he would axe rwanda, even if it works, if that's not naked politics, i don't know what is. do the public want more wokery in our public institutions , with in our public institutions, with the nhs calling women, birthing humans and chest feeders? do they want schools, universities and museums characterising britain's past as shameful, or do they want more primary schools transitioning children without the knowledge of their parents? a shocking story that i dean parents? a shocking story that i dealt with on yesterday's show. do the public really want five years of an even bigger state in the country that quite simply lives beyond its means, with the highest taxes since the second world war? taxes, which are surely only going to go up if

sir keir is to fulfil his supporters clamour for more so—called investment in public services. investment, by the way, translates as more borrowed billions . do the public really billions. do the public really want an administration that hates brexit? former labour foreign secretary david miliband , writing in the observer today, says that brexit has made the uk a lower status nation . that's a lower status nation. that's what they think of this place and the choice of 17.4 million people to leave a political bloc overseas is sir keir, the man who sought to reverse brexit? really the man to tap into its many opportunities? i won't hold my breath. do the public want a prime minister in sir keir starmer, who's got more flip flops than a flagship branch of sports direct? a man who struggles to define what a woman is, who takes the knee to the latest woke cause , changes his latest woke cause, changes his mind about everything, and a man who, if he'd been in power, would have pursued the insane.

and in my view, failed policy of lockdowns with even more vigour. the tories have been a disaster in recent years and have torched their reputation for sound government. i get it, which means a labour government is coming, but i don't know anyone that's celebrating . now labour that's celebrating. now labour supporters would argue that the tories have presided over these high levels of illegal and legal net migration. they would argue that the tories tanked the economy, caused mortgage rates to go sky high, that it's the tories who have presided over union chaos and that they would tackle these issues in government. labour would argue that the opinion polls demonstrate that britain isn't just ready but wants change. let's get your thoughts, mark, at gb news. com or get to your email shortly. but first, my top punst email shortly. but first, my top pundits this evening former adviser boris johnson,

adviser to boris johnson, lord kulveer , ranger, journalist and kulveer, ranger, journalist and communications adviser linda jubilee and last but not least, campaigner for children in care and broadcaster and author the one and only chris wild. well folks, let's sink our teeth into what you've got to say about this. linda, let me start with you. i don't know anyone that's looking forward to this labour government. >> no, it's true that there's no real excitement about it. although i have heard including on on the radio on the way in tonight, several people who were fans of keir starmer. now, i do admit he's not charismatic , but admit he's not charismatic, but the more important point is he doesn't resonate . and that is doesn't resonate. and that is that's very difficult for people to understand . and most british to understand. and most british people in this country don't pay attention to the detail of politics, so they need a character that resonates and keir starmer doesn't. and the problem is the perception has become reality. we see him as dull and dull and wooden, and

now he really has become dull and wooden and people don't really get behind him , but they really get behind him, but they do not want the tories in again. i'm out on the ground the whole time in three constituencies where i live, listening to people, and there's no question about who they're going to be voting for in the in the local may elections. >> wild yes , absolutely. >> chris wild yes, absolutely. >> chris wild yes, absolutely. >> think at the moment, for >> i think at the moment, for me, we've parties, like me, we've got two parties, like two really good football teams with no quality strikers, and i think that's for me. and when you're a community as you're out in a community as well, feedback from well, that's the feedback from people, people in a people, real people in a community. not going community. they're not going to vote they it's vote the tories, they know it's a government, i think a labour government, but i think regardless of anything else that in the community, people are struggling, are starving. struggling, people are starving. they this change, they need they want this change, they need this change. and it's going to come labour party. this change. and it's going to conwe'd labour party. this change. and it's going to conwe'd be labour party. this change. and it's going to conwe'd be mucth party. this change. and it's going to conwe'd be much better(. this change. and it's going to conwe'd be much better off, >> we'd be much better off, wouldn't five years of wouldn't we? with five years of rishi wouldn't you say? no. >> well, look what's happened so far. the tory don't even far. the tory party don't even know they don't know know themselves. they don't know themselves at all. and look what's you're out what's happened. if you're out in talking to in a community, mark, talking to real the tories real people, the tories have destroyed that are destroyed people that people are living streets because of

living on the streets because of what the tories have done. >> so do you that labour >> so do you feel that labour are the will they do are the answer? will they do a better job? >> what's the >> what's what's the alternative? green party, alternative? the green party, the democrats, the only the liberal democrats, the only people this can people who can deliver this can deliver good is the deliver a good mandate is the labour will agree labour party. and i will agree with you . i'm not a labour party. and i will agree with you. i'm not a big labour party. and i will agree with you . i'm not a big fan of with you. i'm not a big fan of keir starmer, but who else have we who else is the labour we got? who else is the labour party got right now? >> looking forward to a >> are you looking forward to a labour government? your concerns >> are you looking forward to a labowstarmer'sant? your concerns >> are you looking forward to a labowstarmer's personality�*ncerns about starmer's personality aside, are you looking for? are you relishing five of labour? >> i am mark because i'm >> i am, i am mark because i'm a real not a i'm not real person. i'm not a i'm not a journalist. i'm not a politician. person in politician. i'm a real person in the community. i see i see the community. and i see i see the community. and i see i see the damage see where we the damage and i see where we need to build the communities once and can once more. and labour can do that, you're just grimacing there come to kulveer there before i come to kulveer ranger linda doebele. >> that people >> yeah, i think that people undeniably want a change. they really, really do . and that's really, really do. and that's what's going to happen. and we'll see a big indication of what likely to happen in november. on may the 2nd, we need to pay very close attention to what's going to happen there. >> kulveer change for change's

sake. i'd rather have five more years rishi sunak. sake. i'd rather have five more yeawellrishi sunak. sake. i'd rather have five more yeawell, it'si sunak. sake. i'd rather have five more yeawell, it's interesting, you >> well, it's interesting, you know, think we want know, i don't think we want labour by i don't think labour by default. i don't think the public want the british public want labour by i think by default. i think there's a question, as linda was saying, about sir keir starmer about what does sir keir starmer stand he's applied stand for? he's applied a thin veneer over a labour party that he supported with jeremy corbyn, which people did recognise, whether they supported it or not, because they knew what jeremy corbyn labour jeremy corbyn and his labour believed and i think chris is believed in and i think chris is right when he talks about football teams without strikers, because two political because you've got two political parties to parties who are trying to re—establish their political base. the conservatives have had the of , yes, almost 14 the challenge of, yes, almost 14 years government, obviously the challenge of, yes, almost 14 ye'a; government, obviously the challenge of, yes, almost 14 ye'a coalition nment, obviously the challenge of, yes, almost 14 ye'a coalition originally viously the challenge of, yes, almost 14 ye'a coalition originally ,iously the challenge of, yes, almost 14 ye'a coalition originally , butly as a coalition originally, but then brexit, covid war, various huge global issues to deal with that have fundamentally challenged conservative beliefs to the to the core. what the conservative party had to do and what boris johnson had to do to get the country through covid, didn't feel conservative. i didn't feel conservative. i didn't very conservative didn't feel very conservative doing it. but, you know, it was illegal. yeah. now now we have the public and a lot of it. i

see the polling as well. a lot of people are concerned about what are they voting for when they conservative. exactly. they vote conservative. exactly. the people who voted for the conservative party i conservative party in 2019, i think still half are undecided. so there's a bit play for so there's a bit to play for there. for rishi sunak to get, yes, his plan out there. but the conservative beliefs, which i think we'll talk about later, about whether we just whether people believe in the conservative party and what they're , once they get they're about, once they get those beliefs, they'll make those beliefs, then they'll make decision. to just linda's decision. i want to just linda's point will in point about what will happen in the probably will the locals there probably will be a bloody nose given to the government. at government. it generally is at this point in the political cycle, it's really sad cycle, and it's really sad because councillors because conservative councillors take the councillors, take the hit or the councillors, whoever lose at that whoever will lose at that point. yeah, it's much more than usual. >> it's much, much more than true . true. >> but i think there's a path to play >> but i think there's a path to play towards a general election when people take a different view because. so you've not given fight yet. given up the fight yet. >> think it's all play >> you think it's all to play for in the autumn? >> you think it's all to play for irthink. utumn? >> i think. >> i think. >> you on record as saying >> are you on record as saying you conservatives can win? >> it's over. i think you'll be much closer than people.

>> might be. >> well, it might be. >> well, it might be. >> does that mean? kulveer ranger? >> what does closer mean? >> what does closer mean? >> there's fight to be >> i think there's a fight to be had. what the tories had. what are the tories fighting for? >> parliament? >> a hung parliament? >> a hung parliament? >> tories fighting, >> no, the tories are fighting, as minister said. and >> no, the tories are fighting, awas minister said. and >> no, the tories are fighting, awas at minister said. and >> no, the tories are fighting, awas at a minister said. and >> no, the tories are fighting, awas at a 1922inister said. and >> no, the tories are fighting, awas at a 1922 meeting id. and >> no, the tories are fighting, awas at a 1922 meeting withnd i was at a 1922 meeting with him, dropper for meeting dropper. >> what's he like in real life? is he that short? >> okay, well fighting. >> they're fighting to re—establish what in the minds of the country what the of the this country what the conservative stands well conservative party stands well close only last win close only counts in land grenades, ballroom dancing and elections. >> you either win or you lose. >> you either win or you lose. >> good stuff. >> good stuff. >> okay, well, listen, rishi sunakis >> okay, well, listen, rishi sunak is a political giant in my view. but course, that's an view. but of course, that's an unfashionable what unfashionable view. what is yours? gb news.com. lots unfashionable view. what is yours to gb news.com. lots unfashionable view. what is yours to get gb news.com. lots unfashionable view. what is yours to get through,ws.com. lots unfashionable view. what is yours to get through, let:om. lots unfashionable view. what is yours to get through, let me. lots unfashionable view. what is yours to get through, let me tells more to get through, let me tell you. next up, after a shock poll of local tory councillors, are the conservatives now two left wing? i'll be speaking to philip davies mp, who strongly disagrees and makes the case for sunak being the most conservative pm since margaret thatcher. while my pundits don't agree, we'll debate that

next. well, a big reaction to my big opinion. a labour government is coming, and i don't know anyone that's looking forward to it. well, the emails as i say, have been plentiful in their supply, starmer will not be our next pm, so i wouldn't worry. your cotton socks. it says richard michael, says mark, i'd sooner slit my throat than vote for starmer. my goodness, please don't do that. michael allen says regarding your big opinion, a starmer far left labour government would see the end of democracy. be warned, we are in dangerous waters. if labour were during the labour were in power during the pandemic, i think we'd have double the national debt that we have already, says alex. however, not happy however, graham is not happy with the tories. he says all 3 million self—employed contractors are waiting for sunak at the ballot box for what he did to us during covid and with ir35. labour is the pain

that we will all face to drain the swamp. and lastly, verna, what a lovely name that is. good evening verna, how are you? verna says mark, why are none of your guests mentioning reform as a good, true uk alternative party? lots of people i know on many political sites are turning to them with their support . to them with their support. thank you for that. keep the emails coming. mark at gb news. okay com but it's time now for the big story and a shock new poll reveals that almost half of tory councillors think that rishi sunak's government is too left wing . a savanta survey left wing. a savanta survey found that 47% believed that the conservative party, under the pm's leadership, has headed leftwards politically and no longer reflects true conservative values . now writing conservative values. now writing exclusively for the gb news website , the conservative mp for website, the conservative mp for shipley, philip davies , defends shipley, philip davies, defends his party and argues that rishi sunakis his party and argues that rishi sunak is the most right wing prime minister since margaret thatcher. well, he made quite a

splash with that article. do checkit splash with that article. do check it out on our website. i'm delighted to say that philip davies joins me now. philip, good to see you again. wokery. in our public institutions, high taxes, high immigration, high inflation sounds like a pretty left wing government to me . left wing government to me. >> yeah, they're all things, mark that rishi sunak inherited when he became prime minister. they're not things that he created . i think even jacob created. i think even jacob rees—mogg, who is one of boris johnson's greatest supporters, admitted that the immigration figures that we saw the two years, over 600,000 net immigration, they were boris johnson's immigration because they weren't rishi sunaks and rishi sunak has actually got to work and changed the immigration rules. he's made sure that, for example, you have to earn more now before you're allowed to come into country or you're come into the country or you're allowed sponsor somebody allowed to sponsor somebody to come the country. come into the country. he's changed stop changed the rules to stop dependents coming into the country. in fact, i've had a letter university letter from my local university at university saying at bradford university saying it's absolutely terrible what rishi done to

rishi sunak's done to immigration, because it's going to really damage our income from foreign students , as a result. foreign students, as a result. so sunak has actually so rishi sunak has actually improved the situation on legal immigration. he's he's passed through the house of commons. the rwanda bill, which makes clear on the front of it, it does not comply with the european convention of human rights, which something i rights, which is something i think, were crying think, that people were crying out government to do, out for the government to do, not just stick not to just stick to the european convention human european convention of human rights, cutting rights, we've started cutting taxes, to slowly, in my opinion, but nevertheless , we've started but nevertheless, we've started cutting taxes. he's pushed back the ridiculous rush to net zero. bofis the ridiculous rush to net zero. boris was a net zero fanatic. of course , and insisted that we all course, and insisted that we all got to we banned all the, dry, petrol and diesel cars by 2030 and oil and gas boilers by 2030. rishi thankfully has pushed that back. i'd like that to go further, but at least he's moving in the right direction . moving in the right direction. he's scrapped the white elephant of hs2, which was absolutely ridiculous, in the past he's cut our foreign aid budget . i mean,

our foreign aid budget. i mean, all of these things, whether people think they go far enough or not, surely everyone has to accept they're all moving in the right and a right direction and we're in a far and more conservative far better and more conservative position situation position now than the situation he inherited when he became prime minister. >> philip , i'm prime minister. >> philip, i'm a >> well, philip, i'm a self—confessed sunak spartan and i think he's a good prime minister. but i'm on my own on that one, aren't i? why are so many of my viewers and listeners watching and listening to this show tonight, flocking to reform uk, because they uk, presumably because they are offering a more traditionally conservative set of policies ? conservative set of policies? >> well, i think the one issue in the room is, is immigration and particularly, you know, both legal and illegal immigration. that's the one big issue that's that's driving people to reform . that's driving people to reform. i don't think many people know that rishi sunak's changed the rules so that 300,000 fewer people be allowed to people a year will be allowed to come into the country as a result of the changes he's made. i don't think he's done a very good at communicating that. good job at communicating that. and need to and of course, we still need to go further. that still leaves immigration high, it's

immigration too high, but it's a very obviously very good start and we obviously we see the rwanda policy we need to see the rwanda policy coming fruition , which coming into fruition, which people very, frustrated people are very, very frustrated that included , i that it hasn't me included, i might add, so people have got to see things will work. see that those things will work. and why people sort and that's why people are sort of frustration supporting of out of frustration supporting reform. but but look, there's two ensure that keir two ways to ensure that keir starmer a massive majority starmer wins a massive majority at election. once at the general election. once the labour and wants to the vote, labour and wants to vote reform. so it seems to me, if don't think the if you don't think the conservative government being conservative government is being conservative enough, it seems very strange to me that the solution problem is to solution to that problem is to elect starmer with a 200 elect keir starmer with a 200 seat majority. to be seat majority. that seems to be a reaction to, having a a strange reaction to, having a government that you don't think is enough. is conservative enough. >> let's bring in if we can. philip, my brilliant pundits tonight stay where are. tonight stay where you are. we've got former to the we've got former adviser to the aforementioned johnson, aforementioned boris johnson, political lord political communicator, lord kulveer, journalist and kulveer, ranger, journalist and communications advisor linda jubilee, and author and campaigner for children in care. chris wild , linda, why do you chris wild, linda, why do you think these councillors have decided that their own party isn't conservative anymore ?

isn't conservative anymore? >> well, because that's what they believe. are they right ? they believe. are they right? >> and because they go out, they go out into their areas and they talk to people and they're being told something. remember that councillors with all due respect to phil, who's an mp, i like and admire, councillors are actually out on the ground talking to people and these councillors are listening to what they're being told.i listening to what they're being told. i remember danny finkelstein once saying in the times years ago, the voters always write a bit like the customer. in fact, you have to pay customer. in fact, you have to pay attention to what they're saying and if they believe something worse , eke it out. something worse, eke it out. >> now, chris, what do you think is happening inside the tory party? >> i just think for me, the most right they've ever been since i've got into politics over the last few years. but i think anything moderate or central right looks left to them. and i think about left wing politics. people think it's soft politics. it really isn't. and a good point to make as well is i think

the conservatives are afraid of reform uk. so they're just doing everything they can to win votes at the moment. so that's what's happening . happening. >> kulveer. where do we go from here? this is a major headache for rishi sunak, isn't it? >> it's a major headache. it's an interesting poll which i believe for by labour believe is paid for by labour together as well. so it's interesting you wants to know this because if this information because if you've a party that's you've got a party that's struggling the polls struggling overall in the polls and has been for a while, and of course facing challenges course is facing some challenges in the locals that are coming up, have disaffected up, you will have disaffected councillors as just councillors. but as chris just said, this said, you know, this conservative government is probably a further to the right than it has been in the last 14 years as a political movement. it's cracking down on immigration and immigration. it's cracking down on law and order. it's looking to cut taxes. it's looking to get away with, get rid of national insurance. it's trying to generate economic growth. it's doing everything in its power. having suffered the challenges and the micro the macro global shocks to the economy of covid and war in ukraine. so it's

and the war in ukraine. so it's really trying to get that conservative engine going and yes, the government is struggling to do it. it's combating all the different forces that are working against it, including the issue that it needs to get its message across . needs to get its message across. and i think that's where the prime minister has his biggest challenge, because, okay, the small boats, the cutting , the small boats, the cutting, the waiting lists, all of these things are his plan. and he needs to do those things, but he needs to do those things, but he needs to do those things, but he needs to show conservative values and beliefs doing it briefly. >> philip, if there is such a hunger out there for true conservatism, why are the british public about elect british public about to elect a labour government ? labour government? >> well, we'll see if they do or not, but i think it's born out of frustration. i don't meet anybody on the streets who's enthusiastic about keir starmer anybody on the streets who's enangela ic about keir starmer anybody on the streets who's enangela rayner, keir starmer anybody on the streets who's enangela rayner, oreir starmer anybody on the streets who's enangela rayner, or a starmer anybody on the streets who's enangela rayner, or a labourer or angela rayner, or a labour government. in fact, nothing could from the truth. could be further from the truth. they're frustrated about the conservative there's conservative party, and there's no that since 2019 we no doubt that since 2019 we haven't been conservative enough for many of the reasons that

colby had mentioned. like, for example, covid, where we had a we had socialism in action, through the lockdowns. but i don't actually think people are looking for the to the labour party. they just are frustrated with the conservatives and they want reason for us. want a reason to vote for us. but it conservative mps and conservative activists have got to behind the minister to get behind the prime minister and tell people what he's doing rather complain. actually rather than complain. actually tell people all the good things he's doing. >> philip, great article in the gb website. thank you so gb news website. thank you so much joining us our best much for joining us and our best to esther we'll catch up to esther and we'll catch up soon. thanks there philip soon. my thanks there to philip davies conservative for davies mp, conservative mp for shipley. up next with shipley. coming up next with tonight's top pundits and a special . six months on, special guest. six months on, has israel gone too far in its response to october the 7th? plus in an exclusive mark dolan tonight people's poll, we've been asking are the tories too left well the results are left wing? well the results are in. shall

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dolan tonight, people's poll i've been asking, are the tories too left wing ? well, it's too left wing? well, it's a landslide, but the wrong kind for the tories. 86.3% say yes. the tories are too left wing. no, the tories are too left wing. n0, 13.7. a the tories are too left wing. no, 13.7. a quick email from seanin no, 13.7. a quick email from sean in bridlington. good evening sean, thank you for your email . the conservative party email. the conservative party ought to be forced to change their name as they appear to despise conservatism. they only want soft lefty lib dem types as candidates. i wouldn't vote for them again if they paid me, says sean. them again if they paid me, says sean . now. today marks the six sean. now. today marks the six month anniversary of the october seventh attack on israel, the worst massacre of jews since the holocaust. nearly 700 israeli citizens were murdered, including 36 children, alongside 373 military personnel and 71 foreigners. many died in horrific and degrading ways, subjected to rape, torture and dismemberment. but in its pursuit of revenge, and with its stated military aim of wiping out hamas with over 30,000

deaths in gaza and counting, and with the region suffering unprecedented hunger, injuries and disease, has the israeli reaction been to strong? let's get the views now of liz truss's biographer and top political correspondent at the spectator magazine . james heale james, magazine. james heale james, good to have you back on the show . your thoughts on this? the show. your thoughts on this? the foreign secretary, david cameron, has expressed concerns about aspects of the israeli response. could we reach a point where british diplomats remove their support for israel ? their support for israel? >> well, i think there's a risk of that happening here. >> and in other countries around the world. i would say we're not at the point where, you know, we're saying we're openly saying that israel's for israel's gone too far, for instance. but do think it was instance. but i do think it was quite the line walked quite striking. the line walked by dowden morning's by oliver dowden this morning's interview talked interview round when he talked about israel was fighting a about israel that was fighting a legitimate that, of legitimate campaign that, of course, we expect obligations of israel expect of israel that we don't expect of hamas, for instance, but also making are making clear that there are concerns, particularly around issues into

issues around aid getting into the and so i think it's the country. and so i think it's about israel's self—interest the country. and so i think it's ab considerl's self—interest the country. and so i think it's ab consider the self—interest the country. and so i think it's ab consider the way;elf—interest the country. and so i think it's ab consider the way;el1which est to consider the way in which other countries responding other countries are responding to what happened last week, this week, monday, particularly week, on monday, particularly with of seven aid with the killing of seven aid workers. the workers. and you see the reaction in uk also, reaction here in the uk also, the comments of donald tusk of poland and anthony albanese of australia. so i think from, you know, a concern of israel's own self—interest needs to make sure it's got international support with and i think, with it. and that's, i think, the thing to bear in mind the key thing to bear in mind when conducting when it's conducting its campaign avoid any when it's conducting its camjofgn avoid any when it's conducting its camjof careless avoid any when it's conducting its camjof careless oversteps, any when it's conducting its camjof careless oversteps, fory kind of careless oversteps, for instance, and etc. >> james, hamas, of >> yes. now, james, hamas, of course, responsible for course, were responsible for that appalling attack on october the it's the sixth month the 7th. it's the sixth month anniversary today. hamas have weaponized human life by building headquarters under hospitals and storing weapons in children's nurseries. so on october the 7th, they set out to do harm . and they've said that do harm. and they've said that they will do it again and again. meanwhile, israel have warned locals to leave areas when an attack coming and as a sort attack is coming and as a sort of course, to minimise casualties. yet israel seem to

be losing the pr war. why >> well, i think, of course israel has been a state that's always faced hatred ever since its creation in the late 1940s. and so there's partly a historic reason there in terms of israel's view in the middle east as well, and how it's viewed by other countries. i think it's also about interesting mark, about different perceptions, perceptions. i was having this conversation with a minister the other they other day, actually, and they made that, you know, made the point that, you know, i you know, if you talk about sort of liberal opinion in the uk, for some people think, for instance, some people think, oh, is using oh, you know, israel is using its tech to attack its high tech weaponry to attack palestinians. but of course, that's view about who that's just one view about who is underdog these in this is the underdog in these in this crisis. of crisis. the other view of course, is that israel is surrounded countries, surrounded by countries, you know, and of know, that loathe it. and of course, there's always been under attack since its under attack ever since its creation. think it depends creation. so i think it depends on own standpoint on on one's own standpoint on it. and course, the whole and of course, given the whole history and of course, given the whole historthese are tensions that go east, these are tensions that go back centuries. so i think that there's surprise there that there's no surprise there that this to conflict this is going to be a conflict that continues and that continues to exercise and agitate, least because agitate, not least because because when other countries are involved, if involved, for instance, if british workers are killed,

british aid workers are killed, that obviously a that obviously sparks off a debate here. so i think there's nothing new all this. nothing new in all of this. i think partly is also thanks to social media, which seeing all the home, there the pictures brought home, there was of the was a horrific atrocities of the 7th october and all the 7th of october and all the fallout. come to the fallout. they've all come to the fore it on 24 seven media. >> now, the renowned jewish actress maureen lipman has said that left wing actors protesting against israel are close to fascism. why are the political left so quick to criticise israel? do you think? >> well, i think it's a long standing fashionable cause in many ways. i think if you go back, you know, there's the really striking thing of post—war history is that originally israel was seen as a left cause, and a lot of left wing cause, and a lot of the old left wingers were very much supportive of on the on the aftermath of holocaust, for aftermath of the holocaust, for instance. think from aftermath of the holocaust, for inst70se. think from aftermath of the holocaust, for inst70s onwards, think from aftermath of the holocaust, for inst70s onwards, it'sthink from aftermath of the holocaust, for inst70s onwards, it's reallyfrom the 70s onwards, it's really been sort great shift with, been a sort of great shift with, you thatcher was seen you know, thatcher was seen as a great supporter israel, and great supporter of israel, and the reorganised in the left reorganised itself in the left reorganised itself in the 90s consecutively. i the 80s and 90s consecutively. i think also it's a misunderstanding, perhaps sometimes about how the whole history is. and again, history of israel is. and again, i about who i say it's about who one

empathises sympathises empathises with and sympathises with conflict. so with in this conflict. and so i think a lot of left wing actors perhaps the side the perhaps take the side of the palestinians, perhaps not considering, of course, what it's live israel it's like to live in israel under constant threat of terror is israel anti—semitic? do think it can be? >> do you think it can be? >> do you think it can be? >> and we've seen, sadly. disappointingly, some manifestations of that in some of the criticisms. and that's why i think it's so important to have the of debate around have the kind of debate around israel palestine conducted israel and palestine conducted in a way which makes sure in a, in a way which makes sure that of those kind that there's none of those kind of we've seen of associations that we've seen all since 7th october. >> i think it's worth remembering what happened six months today truly months ago. today was truly barbaric, wasn't it? not just a loss of life, but the torture, the rape, the appalling the rape, the most appalling crimes. and yet israel crimes. and yet and yet israel is the bad guy. how much of a problem is the israeli prime minister, benjamin netanyahu , do minister, benjamin netanyahu, do you think, james? >> well, this is what's so striking. and actually , if you striking. and actually, if you look at the reaction this week, he's very unpopular within his own gantz, the own country, benny gantz, the opposition within opposition main leader within his own, war cabinet, was actually suggesting fresh elections sooner than expected

later this year. so i think that, you know, look, there is real concern within israel about what's going on. i think what's going on. and i think actually, you that ought actually, you know, that ought to thought for to give pause to thought for some which some critics of israel, which actually there is alive and active on active debate going on in israel, democracy . and it israel, in a democracy. and it shows that, you know, it's not a sort of monolithic approach of this. it's not this. and certainly it's not a debate hamas would ever debate that hamas would ever allow within its own ranks, my thanks from the thanks to james heale from the spectator . catch up soon. james, spectator. catch up soon. james, thank you very much for your time coming up. in my take at ten, you won't want to miss this. it'sjust ten, you won't want to miss this. it's just 20 ten, you won't want to miss this. it'sjust 20 minutes ten, you won't want to miss this. it's just 20 minutes from now. must telly. my now. it's must see telly. my take at ten angela rayner and the scandal that the political scandal that will not go away. dealing not go away. i'll be dealing with labour's leader in with labour's deputy leader in no uncertain terms at ten. you won't miss but first won't want to miss it. but first my mark meets guest is the world renowned biographer of king charles, who will give us the inside story of our remarkable monarchs short but challenging reign. he's live in the studio, one of the best journalists

next. coming up in my take at ten, angela rayner . and the political angela rayner. and the political scandal that won't go away. but first, mark meets . yes, indeed. first, mark meets. yes, indeed. time for mark meets. and tonight, the renowned historian, broadcaster and daily mail journalist robert hardman, whose book queen of our times the life of elizabeth ii was the sunday times biography of the year. well, his latest book is all about our new monarch, charles the third new king, new court, the third new king, new court, the inside story . well, it's the inside story. well, it's a book which has won rave reviews and is out now. robert hardman, welcome to mark dolan tonight. >> thank you. mark let's start with some very positive news. >> charles and camilla celebrate 19 years of marriage this week. was a union that was meant was this a union that was meant to be? >> well, looking back on it, yes. and i remember the day in windsor castle back in 2005. and it did it did feel like a

turning point, actually, because they had been through particularly , camilla and mrs. particularly, camilla and mrs. parker bowles. and she then was in the late 90s, had been much vilified in certain sections of the media. but it was a true love story, and that's been seen to be the case. and she's absolutely the her role now. i mean, she's so central to the whole royal setup and we are so lucky to have her, frankly, as we've seen the last few weeks we've seen in the last few weeks with the state of play that, you know, it's definitely know, it's yeah, it's definitely a cause for celebration, think. >> and she's not somebody that ever set out or particularly wanted to be queen. >> no, i mean absolutely not. >> no, i mean absolutely not. >> this wasn't her. her sort of thing. i mean, it was it was, you know, she she first met the then prince of wales, i mean, way back early 70s. their way back in the early 70s. their life obviously took different course, but it was you know, ultimately it was a, it was a love story that was, that was meant to be. >> and, you know, she has taken to, to royal duties with a, with, i think with a, with, with

a real degree of not just enthusiasm but, but sort of determination . determination. >> i think particularly i mean, l, >> i think particularly i mean, i, know, i'm a writer and i, you know, i'm a writer and she's a great stalwart of the written word. and not just written word. and it's not just the of token patronage the odd sort of token patronage here and there. i mean, she's for now for, for the part here and there. i mean, she's for15 ow for, for the part here and there. i mean, she's for15 years, for the part here and there. i mean, she's for15 years nowthe part here and there. i mean, she's for15 years now has part here and there. i mean, she's for15 years now has beeniart of 15 years now has been supporting very, i mean, a wide range of literary organisations , range of literary organisations, from the commonwealth essay prize and the national literacy trust and book aid international. she really gets into a subject and she she champions it. it's the same with domestic violence. i mean, she does a lot of stuff that we don't see just because that particular subject so particular subject is so sensitive know, sensitive that, you know, it's not can't turn up with not that she can't turn up with a camera crew, but she, she, she absolutely , she, she is busy and absolutely, she, she is busy and she's an unfussy , no nonsense she's an unfussy, no nonsense character, isn't she? >> yeah. she is. and she also with the sort of sense of humour. >> i mean, she's not grand. no no, i mean, well, she's the queen. i mean, you know, she but she's, you know, people sort of forget they sort of accidentally call your royal highness or call her your royal highness or

forget your majesty. forget to call her your majesty. i took several months, i mean, it took several months, actually, after the king's accession, remember accession, for her to remember that her majesty . people accession, for her to remember that been her majesty . people accession, for her to remember that been sortier majesty . people accession, for her to remember that been sort of majesty . people accession, for her to remember that been sort of saying,( . people accession, for her to remember that been sort of saying, oh, 'eople had been sort of saying, oh, your and be your majesty. and she'd just be sort of looking around, said, oh, that's me, you know? oh, golly, that's me, you know? so, she's not, she's so, yeah, she's she's not, she's she's, she's she's very she's, she's she's she's very approachable. she's very popular. >> and you notice this? i think it's very telling that if you look back at all the time she's been been royal, as it were, i mean, almost a zero turnover of staff i always think is a staff, which i always think is a very of how very good indicator of how somebody after other somebody looks after other people, which takes us meghan people, which takes us to meghan and harry, what, has, has the drama, relating to harry and meghan ? what sort of pain has meghan? what sort of pain has that brought to king charles, do you think? how much has he suffered a result of suffered as a result of so—called megxit? >> mean, i he's right >> well, i mean, i he's right from the start was was sad that his you know, his son was sort of leaving not just the country but leaving royal life. i mean, it was a source of, i think, great pain to him. but i mean ,

great pain to him. but i mean, particularly since he's become king, he's got so many other things to worry about. and because they've made it abundantly that's abundantly clear that's that's the , and there isn't the future, and there isn't really a negotiation to be had. i mean, in his one of his interviews around that sort of rather frenetic time towards the end of 2022, when you had harry and meghan, you had the sort of the six part netflix documentary followed rapidly by the book spare and in the interviews surrounding it, harry kept talking about, you know, he was waiting for this apology from the family, mean, you know , the family, i mean, you know, well, carry on waiting. i mean, you know, they've got other things to do. i he things to do. i mean, he clearly, you know, loves his clearly, you know, he loves his son, king, you know, the son, the king, you know, the door open still. >> yeah. yeah, the door is always open . always open. >> i mean, there's a different dynamic the brothers dynamic between the brothers that's, you know, been much analysed. that's analysed. i think that's possibly be, take, possibly going to be, take, take, take more time. but i mean, the king is very much he is he's not one for a sort of for a feud. i mean, it's very much let's, you know, if we can make this work, if one day we

can kind of normalise a situation where where harry and meghan and the children. because you know, he'd love to see his grandchildren, you know, if it can be if the situation can evolve, where they can come and go there can be a more sort go and there can be a more sort of, easygoing relationship, i think would be happy. think everyone would be happy. >> think >> so you don't think necessarily you identify necessarily you don't identify that charles or angry that charles is bitter or angry about the situation with the sussexes? just a little hurts. and a little disappointing. >> yeah, bitter. bitter and angry. he's got so much else going on, so many other things to worry about that , that it's to worry about that, that it's not really his style either . i not really his style either. i mean, you also, you look at the way that i think that he's, you know, he he does take a sort of rather like the late queen as well. took a, sort of big tent well. took a, a sort of big tent approach. mean, i the approach. i mean, i think the way, example, at family way, for example, that at family events, at family events, events, only at family events, but, the duke york but, you know, the duke of york is still there. and not only that, his ex—wife is that, but his his ex—wife is welcome you know, that, but his his ex—wife is we does; you know, that, but his his ex—wife is we does . you know, that, but his his ex—wife is we does . he's you know, that, but his his ex—wife is we does . he's he's you know, that, but his his ex—wife is we does . he's he's you>u know, that, but his his ex—wife is we does . he's he's you know»w, that, but his his ex—wife is we does . he's he's you know ,/, he does. he's he's you know, he's a man of faith. and i think

he's a man of faith. and i think he does have a sort of a kind of christian sense of forgiveness. >> how is he doing the job differently to his mother, queen elizabeth ii? elizabeth 11? >> well, it's clearly every generation does things slightly differently. i mean, it is a more, it's a less formal operation. i mean, i think we saw that right from the start. i mean, if you look back to the immediate hours and days after the death of elizabeth ii, immediate hours and days after the death of elizabeth 11, after she succeeded to the throne in 1952, britain had to wait ten and a half months to hear the new sovereign speak in public, and it was many months of court mourning . and, you know, it was mourning. and, you know, it was a long time before, if you like , a long time before, if you like, the sort of the new reign got going. whereas with charles ii, i mean, it was right there from the start, within 24 hours of becoming king, he was on the airwaves. i thought was very airwaves. i thought it was very telling day, the telling that the next day, the day mother's death, day after his mother's death, he flew scotland and he flew down from scotland and he went to buckingham went straight to buckingham palace. crowds palace. and all these crowds outside there with outside and i was there with them the car stopped outside them and the car stopped outside . the gates didn't go through,

which we all expected. which is what we all expected. stopped and he got out stopped outside and he got out and immediately started talking to love the sort to people he does love the sort of hands and shaking of speaking hands and shaking hands, receiving hugs even. >> the very first person >> yeah, the very first person he went was a lady who was he went up to was a lady who was in he went in floods of tears, and he went up was trying sort of up and was trying to sort of offer and she said, can offer a hand and she said, can i give you a hug? >> and he said, of course, now, you know, someone inside the palace me, don't palace said to me, i don't think anyone late anyone would have asked the late queen hug. had they queen for a hug. and had they done probably wouldn't have done so, probably wouldn't have got one. >> you know, that's sort of >> you know, that's a sort of it's of tonal shift. it's just a sort of tonal shift. >> transparent >> there's a more transparent approach to events now. mean, >> there's a more transparent appiknow, 0 events now. mean, >> there's a more transparent appiknow, thingsts now. mean, >> there's a more transparent appiknow, thingsts norl mean, n, you know, things like, i mean, for we've the for example, we've seen the accession council live on television. i mean, would television. i mean, that would have unheard events at have been unheard of, events at the obviously, they're the palace, obviously, they're off at the moment. the off limits at the moment. the king hosting king isn't hosting parties because he can't on doctor's orders. until, orders. but, i mean, up until, a few weeks ago, he was. and they're they're less formal than they're they're less formal than they used to be. >> there's a sort of i mean, obviously still the king. >> it's still the palace. there still has to be these of still has to be these levels of grandeur. that's what people want. they want things want. i mean, they want things to feel royal, but but for

example, there fewer of example, there are fewer sort of greeting are fewer greeting lines. there are fewer just just been a sort of just there's just been a sort of dialling of, of dialling down slightly of, of some of the protocol and the etiquette, it's just etiquette, and it's just a reflection . he is of a different generation. >> and of course, his openness about his health issues and his cancer diagnosis is, there are other aspects of the book that are absolutely compelling . is are absolutely compelling. is charles haunted by the memory of diana , no, i think he i mean, diana, no, i think he i mean, you know , when you've been you know, when you've been through the most well, to start with the most celebrated and famous fairy tale wedding, probably of all time, and then to have gone through the pain of the most celebrated and scrutinised, marriage break—up of all time . i mean, i think you of all time. i mean, i think you you get used to you find an ability to sort of compartmentalise that , and i compartmentalise that, and i think, you know, he did go through a period when, yeah, the media and particularly, you know, not not just here but around the world was, was, was

hostile, you know, very hostile to him . and people talked about to him. and people talked about the war of the whales as it became a sort of media shorthand. and what he did then and what he's done through subsequent crises. you get on with it . you know, his his his with it. you know, his his his relationship with diana wasn't as it wasn't this as sort of, you know, hostile as you see things like the crown sort of portraying it as a, as , as portraying it as a, as, as a sort of constant, battle of wits and constant attempt to undermine the princess. it just wasn't like that at all. i mean, it was it was a breakdown of a marriage. but i mean, you know, if you look at the stats for all the married in the same the couples married in the same year and diana, 28, year as charles and diana, 28, by the they had split up, by the time they had split up, had split up, and they didn't have their own plates or tea towels or it didn't. >> was was the marriage that marriage? diana ? was marriage? charles and diana? was it mistake? because the it a mistake? because the perception diana was perception is that diana was deeply in love with charles, and charles not in love charles was not in love with diana . diana. >> yeah, that's the sort of that's a kind of media

that's become a kind of media shorthand. i think was shorthand. but i think it was like any relationship, it was far complex than far more sort of complex than that. sides of it we that. there are sides of it we won't really mean, the won't really know. i mean, the fact he's, you know, fact is he's, you know, the result of that marriage is william and harry, who adores william and harry, who he adores . i mean, you . he's devoted to, i mean, you know, any family know, like any, any family who've been through this sort of thing, i mean, of there thing, i mean, of course there are going regrets on all are going to be regrets on all sides, i think, know , sides, but i think, you know, the world can look back at how in the aftermath of the death of diana, what happened next, you know, the fact that, you know, he was he was a doting dad and yes , of course, things have gone yes, of course, things have gone in all sorts of directions with the, with the sussexes. but you know, it's where we are, robert, a couple of seconds left. >> let me just wave the book at my director cam. there it is, ron. it is a very good charles. the third new king, new court. the third new king, new court. the inside story. a couple of seconds. we're praying for a speedy recovery for charles and for catherine as well, briefly. what can he hope to achieve in the years ahead if he's if he hopefully recovers?

>> well, i think what he's already done is he's steadied the ship after the longest reign in and if you look at in history. and if you look at the back just not long before, the back just not long before, the death of the queen, immediately afterwards, you had a lot of critics saying, oh, well, who can possibly fill her shoes? well, he has. there you go. the is, the go. and the fact is, the monarchy you know, monarchy compare, you know, faith trust in faith and general trust in the monarchy the political monarchy with the political system. you tell me, which is more trusted? brilliant. system. you tell me, which is mo robert ed? brilliant. system. you tell me, which is mo robert hardman, nt. so >> robert hardman, you're so right. long the next >> robert hardman, you're so righi'llong the next >> robert hardman, you're so righi'llongdealingz next >> robert hardman, you're so righi'llongdealing with next >> robert hardman, you're so righi'llongdealing with queen up, i'll be dealing with queen angela rayner . angela rayner. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers, sponsors of weather on gb news. >> hello. here's your latest weather update from the met office. we hold on to rather unsettled weather across the uk dunng unsettled weather across the uk during the week ahead. further spells of rain in most areas and often quite windy. two storm kathleen move kathleen started to move away towards and northeast towards the north and northeast of the uk now, but notice low pressure gathering once again towards southwest and it's towards the southwest and it's this will bring wet this that will bring further wet and over the next

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i'll be asking tonight's newsmaker, the formidable ann widdecombe , plus tomorrow's widdecombe, plus tomorrow's newspaper front pages and live reaction in the studio from tonight's top pundits. lots to get through, folks . a very busy get through, folks. a very busy hour to come. obviously waiting in the wings. angela rayner i'm not pulling my punches. but first the headlines and tatiana sanchez. >> mark thank you. the top stories this hour. thousands of israelis have been gathering in jerusalem this evening, calling for the release of hostages still being held by hamas in tel aviv. candles were for lit the hostages. it comes as today marks six months since the terror attack on october 7th. all families of hostages also joined a rally in london to call for the release of hostages, saying the six months after the attack have been hell. marking the occasion, the prime

minister, rishi sunak, has said the government continues to stand by israel's right to defend its security and added the uk is shocked by the bloodshed. he called for an immediate humanitarian pause in fighting. he also urged hamas to release its hostages and implored israel to get aid into gaza more swiftly. meanwhile the foreign secretary has used the occasion to stress that the uk's support for israel is not unconditional, writing in the sunday times, lord cameron said there's no doubt where the blame lies over the death of three british aid workers and added this must never happen again. john chapman, james henderson and james kirby died in airstrikes carried out by the idf on an aid convoy on the 1st of april. the deputy prime minister has denied claims that the uk is failing to prepare for war. oliver dowden is defending the government after outgoing armed forces minister james heappey told the telegraph only

ministry of defence officials attended a wartime preparation exercise, which was meant for the whole of government. former defence secretary ben wallace has backed him up, saying too many in government are just hoping everything goes away . hoping everything goes away. police have named a man they're searching for after a woman was stabbed to death in broad daylight in bradford city centre. west yorkshire police detectives say they want to trace 25 year old habiba masum, who is from the oldham area. they were called to the city centre yesterday afternoon following reports of an attack by who fled scene . the by a man who fled the scene. the woman was taken to hospital where later died . and a where she later died. and a british man nicknamed hardest geezer has become the first person to run the length of africa. russell cook , from africa. russell cook, from worthing in west sussex, crossed the finish line in tunisia today. he ran through 16 countries in 352 days. the 27 year old said he'd struggled with his mental health, gambling and drinking, and he said he

wanted to make a difference and he's raised over £600,000 for charity . for the latest stories, charity. for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen , or go to gb news .com/ screen, or go to gb news .com/ alerts . now screen, or go to gb news .com/ alerts. now it's screen, or go to gb news .com/ alerts . now it's over to screen, or go to gb news .com/ alerts. now it's over to . mark. alerts. now it's over to. mark. >> my thanks to tatiana sanchez, who returns in an hour's time. welcome to a busy mark dolan tonight . after years of defence tonight. after years of defence cuts, is britain vulnerable to foreign attack and has brexit diminished the uk as a country? that's the view of david miliband, former labour foreign secretary. i'll get reaction from tonight's newsmaker, the formidable ann widdecombe . plus, formidable ann widdecombe. plus, at tomorrow's newspaper front pages and live reaction in the studio from tonight's top punst studio from tonight's top pundits this evening, studio from tonight's top pundits this evening , former top pundits this evening, former top adviser to boris johnson, lord kulveer, ranger , journalist and kulveer, ranger, journalist and communications adviser linda

jubilee and author and campaigner for children in care chris wild . so a packed hour and chris wild. so a packed hour and those papers are coming and ann widdecombe is waiting in the wings. but first my take at ten. for such a vocal political figure, angela rayner , the figure, angela rayner, the self—named ginger growler has fallen strangely quiet. labour's deputy leader faces ongoing questions about profits from the sale of her council house nine years ago. in a story that, like a nasty case of the common cold, just won't go away . and frankly, just won't go away. and frankly, the story is nothing to be sneezed at. the allegations against rayner are that she may owe tax on a profit she made when selling her home in stockport in march 2015. now she insists that the house was her main residence when she sold it, which would exempt her from paying which would exempt her from paying tax on the considerable £48,000 profit. a profit , i

£48,000 profit. a profit, i might add. that was thanks to margaret thatcher's transformative right to buy policy. however, today , in an policy. however, today, in an explosive mail on sunday investigation , the paper claims investigation, the paper claims that, according to its own detailed analysis of rayner's social media and twitter accounts, it has evidence to suggest that the house was not her primary property. their political editor, glen owen, writes that they have seen dozens of online postings made by rayner that show that between 2010 and 2015, she posted about her children and cats at her husband's address , which was a husband's address, which was a house a mile away from hers, including one particular post captioned just got back from work. the mail cites multiple examples of pictures taken at her residence that they say support their case. now, angela rayner has denied any wrongdoing and has insisted that the home on vicarage road was her main

address . from 22,007. she paid address. from 22,007. she paid bills and council tax there and she was on the electoral roll at the property too, and she has received legal advice that she acted correctly . so that's acted correctly. so that's great, isn't it? nothing to see. end of my take. at ten. shall we have a cup of tea? well, no, we can't, because prior to the mail on sunday investigation, neighbours of mrs. rayner have insisted that she fact insisted that she was in fact living primarily about a mile away at a property on londis lane. former next door neighbour sylvia hampson said that rayner lived in the terraced home in londis lane for a good 6 or 7 years, despite the labour mps insistence that her main home was on vicarage road. this wily next door neighbour told the times newspaper angela lived there as a family, with her partner mark and the three kids. there is no doubt she was living there all the time. now the police have investigated this and found no evidence of any wrongdoing. a labour spokesperson says that following professional advice, no capital gains tax was payable on the

sale of rayner's home. but the forthright neighbour, sylvia hampson, who is a very sprightly 83, is not having any of it. she went on to tell the times i saw her all the time coming and going. her mum would come and visit a lot. this was her home neighbour sylvia goes on to say and prepare for some strong language here. if she's saying she didn't live there, she is an effing liar. she definitely lived in that house. she can't say she didn't live there. i would swear on the bible to that . oh deary me now this is just sylvia hampson's word i should add. it's hearsay and not a smoking gun which incriminates the shadow deputy leader. and i happen to like angela rayner. she's outspoken, she's compelling. she speaks for millions of people who are struggling to make ends meet in this country . and i think she'd this country. and i think she'd probably be a better leader than

sir keir starmer. probably be a better leader than sir keir starmer . and the sir keir starmer. and the non—payment of a small amount of tax is a sideshow. that is not the big story. the big story is about whether angela rayner is someone who seeks to be our next deputy prime minister. was not straight about the facts. now, in my view, there is no conclusive evidence that she lied. but the problem for rayner is that she's not currently willing to publish the very tax advice which she claims exonerates her, and she has not shown that advice to her boss, the party leader sir keir starmer , which is why the story starmer, which is why the story won't go away. this is, of course, the same sir keir starmer who is a complete stuck record about probity and propriety in public life. a vocal critic of tory sleaze and someone who relentlessly pursued bofis someone who relentlessly pursued boris johnson over partygate. interestingly there is no love lost between rayner and her boss, with the leader of the opposition previously having

tried to sack her only to give her a promotion following a backlash. but i'm curious to see whether ongoing questions about angela rayner's housing situation could see her evicted from the shadow cabinet. for now, she'll have to lie low wherever she currently calls . wherever she currently calls. home. now responding to the initial allegations, angela rayner denies any wrong doing. she posted on x at the time, saying i've never been a land lady, owned a property portfolio or been a non—dom . as with the or been a non—dom. as with the majority of ordinary people who sell their own homes, i was not liable for capital gains tax because it was my home and the only one that i owned . okay, only one that i owned. okay, your reaction market gb news.com . the bottom line is there is no tangible proof that she's been dishonest. but the story won't go away. and i think it matters, which is why i defend covering

it in my take at ten. so i'll hear from you shortly. mark at gbnews.com. but let's hear from my top pundits. first up, former adviser to boris johnson, lord kulveer, ranger, journalist and communications advisor linda jubilee, and author and campaigner children in care campaigner for children in care chris wild, kulveer ranger does , chris wild, kulveer ranger does, as angela rayner have a case to answer, look like you mark. >> i also like angela rayner. i think she's an authentic politician in a world where people want authentic politicians and we want more people like her in politics and i think this story is a bit of a non—story. actually, i think she's been clear about what she did . there's been an did. there's been an investigation into it. i know it sounds interesting that we have this, quite, vivacious 83 year old neighbour who's, quite clear what she saw and is aware of. but really, we're talking about, as you said, the person who could be the next deputy prime minister of this country. and

i'm more interested in what she believes in, she thinks believes in, what she thinks needs to be fixed, how she'd go about it and really , for us to about it and really, for us to get dig deep into those things because she's core to the labour party at the moment. and potentially a next government. and that's what i want to be really hauling her over the coals over and understanding about what she believes in, in spite of your very, very youthful demeanour, linda jubilee, you've been a stalwart of fleet street for many years. >> what do you make of this story from glen owen at the mail on sunday? >> well, i mean, i think that the social media posts are not exactly explosive and i think that a political editor should really have a lot more on his plate than this. absolutely. i agree with what kilvrough has said here that we really want to be talking about her policies, what she believes in, what she's going to say and what she's going to say and what she's going to say and what she's going to stand by towards the next election . ian, i mean, the next election. ian, i mean, the fact of the matter is that she

she and her husband, for a time, they had separate households. they moved between the two. they're a typical blended family. i don't really see how you could effectively investigate this situation. and i don't think social media posts and repeating what the content is, are , are actually proof. is, are, are actually proof. >> linda linda jubilee why won't she publish the legal advice she was given? and why won't she show that legal advice to her own boss, who, by the way, is a former top lawyer , sir keir starmer? >> well, i personally i think she it , and, >> well, i personally i think she it, and, and if she should show it, and, and if it's, if it's good news, we can draw a line under it, and if it's not, then we can we can move forward and see what we've got to say about it. i think she should publish that. but i think we're dealing with a, with a we're not dealing with a, with a big deal here. and i think it's better not to sweat the small stuff, but it's a story that won't go away. >> chris wild, and it's damaging to the labour party . to the labour party. >> it's not damaging at all. it won't go away because the won't go away because it's the right wing media which keep

bringing surface again. bringing it up to surface again. i she's a great i know angela, she's a great woman. very transparent, woman. she's very transparent, very her role woman. she's very transparent, veryto her role woman. she's very transparent, veryto be her role woman. she's very transparent, veryto be honest, her role woman. she's very transparent, veryto be honest, who 1er role woman. she's very transparent, veryto be honest, who cares?e and to be honest, who cares? look the scandals. the look at the scandals. what the tory up to. nobody's tory party is up to. nobody's talking about, know, tinder tory party is up to. nobody's talk ppe. bout, know, tinder tory party is up to. nobody's talk ppe. it's:, know, tinder tory party is up to. nobody's talk ppe. it's very know, tinder tory party is up to. nobody's talk ppe. it's very minor. tinder tory party is up to. nobody's talk ppe. it's very minor. and er and ppe. it's very minor. and she's a good politician. and she will become the next leader, hopefully, do you not think, do you think it's not minor? do you think it's minor? let me know your thoughts. mark at gbnews.com. what i would say, chris wild, is that if the shoe was on the other foot and angela rayner was a conservative minister, labour would be all over her like a rash. >> how dare you ? no, it's true, >> how dare you? no, it's true, isn't it? >> i mean, it's what we've had. linda jubilee from keir starmer. all this guy that's always going on propriety and probity on about propriety and probity and god knows what else in pubuc public life. >> i'll tell you what, there >> and i'll tell you what, there is a of hypocrisy about is a level of hypocrisy about buying your house under a scheme outlined and launched by margaret thatcher, and then pulling the trap door up after you've used it. the ladder, i mean, and the trap door. yeah, but think that's hypocritical. but i think that's hypocritical. and that hits at, her

and i think that hits at, her character a little bit more. and perhaps that is relevant to the voting public, because i think when you benefit from a policy, you shouldn't be the first person to be standing by the abolition of it. >> sylvia , briefly, >> indeed, sylvia, briefly, there's no love lost between starmer and rayner. i still think this is a potential political opportunity for labour's adversaries. >> well, i don't know , because >> well, i don't know, because angela rayner is doing a great job for sir keir starmer. she's she's his john prescott to tony blair. she provides the balance of that traditional labour heartlands, the routes that give a certain sense of legitimacy to keir starmer. i think he wants to keep her in situ. i saw that, dual written op ed that they had last week. i was wondering, you know, when they changed the pen over as they're both writing it and a lovely press conference they had. so he obviously wants her to hold her close, to help him, seal the deal with labour

voters as much as the rest of the country. so i think sir keir starmer needs angela rayner, which is another reason why he won't see her. her legal won't ask to see her. her legal advice , john's not happy on advice, john's not happy on email. rayner is not honest and should be sacked. she hounded bofis should be sacked. she hounded boris out of office and has called all of tory supporters scum. okay, i'll get to. i'll get to more of your emails, many of which are almost as harshly worded as as some of the comments previously made by rayner herself . i'll get to rayner herself. i'll get to those shortly. but next up, after years of defence cuts , is after years of defence cuts, is britain vulnerable to foreign attack? and has brexit diminished the uk as a country? i'll be asking tonight's newsmaker , the formidable ann newsmaker, the formidable ann widdecombe.

next. the angela rayner story. that won't go away . that was my take

won't go away. that was my take at ten. and a big reaction on email market gb news. com ernest says mark, the problem with angela is that she screamed at every single tory who has done wrong to resign or come clean, linda and chris, your pundits are typical lefties. tory sleaze, bad labour sleaze, a right wing witch hunt. keith says you're three idiots on the panel says you're three idiots on the panel. unbelievable steve, i think this particular rabbit hole is going to go deeper and deeper as the weeks go by. she needs to release her evidence or stand down. meanwhile matthew says rayner has done what most people in this country did bought their council house and flipped it for a profit. do we ask all of them for their tax return? we'll get to more of your emails at 1030, but it's time for the newsmaker and time now for the newsmaker and the former defence secretary, ben , and the outgoing ben wallace, and the outgoing defence minister, james heappey, have the government's have slammed the government's defence policies, with wallace arguing that some in government are just hoping that threats to

the uk will go away. meanwhile, heappey called on ministers to do more to get ready for conflict, saying the uk has failed to prepare for war. so is britain now vulnerable to foreign attack too and weak to protect western values and interests abroad ? let's get the interests abroad? let's get the views of tonight's newsmaker, former government minister and broadcaster ann widdecombe. and lovely to see you. is britain now a sitting duck to a foreign attack ? attack? >> i don't think so. >> i don't think so. >> if by what you mean by that, you mean an attack on our homeland , because if there were homeland, because if there were to be an attack on the uk itself , physically on the uk, then all nato , would have to be involved. nato, would have to be involved. so we wouldn't be talking just about our meagre defences. and they are meagre these days. we would be talking about nato. so i don't think you're going to wake up tomorrow morning and find invaded, however find we've been invaded, however , what is undeniable is that we haven't got, the forces and the

equipment that we need, in order to maintain , for example, our to maintain, for example, our ownership of the falklands. i mean, if galtieri in a second galtieri came along and said, i'm going to invade the argentina, then, sorry , i'm argentina, then, sorry, i'm going mad. i'm going to invade the falklands, then we would not or we would be hard put. we would be hard put to defend the falklands , and similarly, of falklands, and similarly, of course, our duty is not just to defend our own homeland. it's to be a big part of nato. and we are in the sense that we, we actually do pay our contribution, which a lot of countries don't, but we're still very thin on the ground compared to how we were . and if you to how we were. and if you remember, if you go back to the time when we were deployed simultaneously, our forces in both iraq and afghanistan and the army said, oh, by the way, if you really do have a fireman

strike, we won't be able to do anything , because we're already anything, because we're already stretched to the point that that was then. now we're even more reduced. and so if we had to do more than one thing at once, i don't know how well britain would be placed, but no, i don't expect to find the russians on my front doorstep tomorrow. >> let's hope not. and if they encounter you, then they're in trouble. and richard drax has recently suggested we should have some form of national service. would that improve the mindset of the nation and ready us for war? >> well, the whole point of national service is usually to skill the population in preparation for a war, and an awful lot of countries now don't consider that necessary, but i think some very, very basic training, would be helpful. i'm not talking about bringing back , not talking about bringing back, full conscription, but some bafic full conscription, but some basic training , i think would basic training, i think would be, it would be to the countries benefit that people do actually know what what to do if they

ever did find that they were faced with a call up, which, mercifully, we haven't been for many years. >> and i've heard lunatics suggest that we shouldn't be spending money on defence, and it should go to the nhs instead . it should go to the nhs instead. do you think that some in this country, perhaps even in parliament, have lost touch with the importance of a well—funded , the importance of a well—funded, well equipped armed forces? >> i do not understand why people don't realise that defence is the first and most important social security . important social security. because if your country is not adequately defended, then your nhs is not defended. your social security system is not defended. defence is the first and most important national security that you can have, and without that you can have, and without that you get all the other things . you get all the other things. >> and what's a sensible proportion of national income to spend on defence, do you think? >> well, i would have been quite happy with 3. until we just let

ourselves decline as far as we have and, and i think the brutal truth is, that in addition to our contribution to nato, we're going to have to up our own individual spending if we want to get our forces on a sensible level. and by that i mean all our forces, not forgetting the navy, which has been very badly run down now. >> and i hope you don't mind me springing this on you, but i've got no doubt read all the got no doubt you read all the sunday this morning, and got no doubt you read all the sunformer this morning, and got no doubt you read all the sunformer labours morning, and got no doubt you read all the sunformer labour foreign1g, and the former labour foreign secretary david miliband, has said that brexit has made the uk a lower status nation. he argues that britain has lost its influence since brexit to become just one of many middle powers in the world. do you agree? >> no. i mean, first of all, how does he square that with the trade deals we've done , trade deals we've done, particularly with the pacific one, which is worth an awful lot of money globally. how does he square with that ? how does square that with that? how does he square it with the big

success that we the success that we had with the vaccinations when were taking vaccinations when we were taking our decisions? but i'll tell our own decisions? but i'll tell you . i our own decisions? but i'll tell you .i do our own decisions? but i'll tell you . i do agree with you something. i do agree with him, that we are going backwards for one very simple reason. we're making no use at all of brexit. we're not actually implementing the brexit freedoms. instead, we're shadowing the eu. so raising corporation tax to the level of france, for example. what's that going to do for investment in britain keeping umpteen thousands and thousands of eu regulations, which we don't need . what's that doing for us? if .what's that doing for us? if we had somebody in power, a party in power that was absolutely determined to maximise brexit to britain's advantage, we would be laughing. >> and last but not least , faith >> and last but not least, faith schools in england would no longer have to offer offer a proportion of their places to children who do not follow their

religion under plans being considered by number 10. so what this means potentially, is that children religion are children with no religion are being kept out of faith schools, so you might not get into a catholic school if you're not catholic, church of england, etc. is this the right move to freeze out non—religious children from faith schools? >> well, it makes perfect common sense to me that if you've set up a catholic school or if you've set up an anglican school, or a school or a school, or a muslim school or a jewish school, you've done that for purposes of meeting the for the purposes of meeting the demands who want demands of parents who want their brought up in their children brought up in whatever is , and to whatever faith it is, and to force such schools to turn down children of that faith and take instead children of other or no faiths. what is the point of that? there is no point except that? there is no point except that people these days do not respect faith , and they don't respect faith, and they don't respect faith, and they don't respect faith, and they don't respect faith schools, and they don't respect rigorous teaching of faith and brilliant stuff as eve r. >> even >> have a great week and we'll see you next sunday. my thanks

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i do like to keep director rann on his toes. now, the daily telegraph. cameron warns us over kyiv aid bloc nhs loophole allows puberty blockers for children. hidden cost of labour's care plans revealed and shamed post office boss silent on scandal paula vennells, the former post office chief, refused to answer questions about whether she had knowingly lied to mps over the horizon scandal . next up the guardian scandal. next up the guardian carers taken to court over heart rending minor errors. i am a little tired british athlete first to run the full length of africa and disappeared anguish overin africa and disappeared anguish over in gaza over missing thousands. over in gaza over missing thousands . daily mail now. rain thousands. daily mail now. rain is making a fool of you care. scandal over deputy's home is corrosive to your reputation. tory chairman tells starmer. keir starmer and angela rayner were tonight accused of breaking their pledge to uphold standards

in public life. tory party chairman richard holden said that leader's that the labour leader's unwillingness to probe claims against his deputy over her property dealings was damning. well, that, of course, was the topic of my take at ten and i'm delighted to say that our excellent digital producer, nick, has crafted it into a video , which i think you can video, which i think you can catch on twitter right now, if not very shortly . daily express not very shortly. daily express exposed care home crisis putting britain to shame. the appalling way that britain treats its most vulnerable and frail citizens in expensive care homes has been laid bare . devastating figures laid bare. devastating figures show residents languish within substandard and inadequate facilities . at 1 in 5 sites. the facilities. at 1 in 5 sites. the sun an investigation from the sun an investigation from the sun newspaper . sun an investigation from the sun newspaper. deadly ops on sale in uk hotels. brits are being pressured into signing up for potentially deadly cosmetic surgery in medical roadshows at uk hotels. metro now payback time what payback time?

punishment isn't working. thousands of criminals ordered to do unpaid work, such as cleaning graffiti, get away without finishing it. new data shows . official ministry of shows. official ministry of justice figures reveal nearly 280,000 hours of punishment were written off last year , the written off last year, the equivalent of 30 years of work. the i newspaper signed non—disclosure agreements to see charges. new build owners told home owners are being told they must sign ndas if they want to see the details of their rising estate charges. and last but not least , the daily star and esther least, the daily star and esther reveals all sausage dodgy. the brilliant esther rantzen says that the tv dog who growled sausages was in fact a fake. the owner got the sound by squeezing his throat. there you go. well, let's see if it works on me. >> yes, there you go. amazing >> yes, there you go. amazing >> thank you. dame esther, for that insight and for that scoop .

that insight and for that scoop. time to introduce my top pundits this evening. ringside action. i'm delighted to welcome former top adviser to boris johnson, lord kulveer ranger. journalist and communications adviser linda jubilee. and author and campaigner for children in care, chris wild. well, folks , great chris wild. well, folks, great to have you with me. let's sink our teeth into some of these big stories, if we can. and this one's a shocker. chris exposed care home crisis, putting britain to shame at one in i think it was 1 in 4 know 1 in 5 sites where residents are languishing in substandard and inadequate facilities . these are inadequate facilities. these are the grandmas, grandpas, uncles and aunties that we cherish so much. >> it's incredibly sad, mark, andifs >> it's incredibly sad, mark, and it's same with the care sector for young people. when it was privatised many years ago. it becomes a money making mechanism people who mechanism where the people who own these care homes are taking all money. they don't invest all the money. they don't invest back some of them are back into them. some of them are dilapidated it's dilapidated and it's heartbreaking. there was dilapidated and it's h

you know, there were no food, it was damp and it was covered in damp and it really heartbreaking. but our really is heartbreaking. but our most vulnerable people in this society are subjected to this kind of abuse. mark. it really is. and i think we need more restricted. cqc regulations to make sure. but private companies are investing in these and not neglecting the people living in them . them. >> most definitely. and of course we've got here in the telegraph a sort of similar story in its hidden cost of labour's care plans revealed. because a lot of this is about budgeting, isn't it? linda jubilee , care sector mess. >> it i am not sure because i don't work in the care sector. i haven't analysed it enough. i don't know that it's in a mess, but it's under a lot of pressure. and the point is that successive governments, not just this government but previous administrations , simply haven't administrations, simply haven't had a long term approach to how we deal with our elderly population. i know it's terrible because we're, you know, many years ago, people retired at 60, died at 65. now they're living an extra 30 years. there's a huge amount of pressure because

because of that rise in the so—called grey population , but so—called grey population, but at the end of the day, people are having to sell their homes to pay for their care, and that can't be right. and the care that's happening is often substandard. >> kulveer i think, you know, both lynn and chris are right. >> there's a there's a cumulative effect here that we've known about for decades . we've known about for decades. we have an ageing population that adult social care, the costs of it, that care carers who are unpaid , the unpaid. and who are unpaid, the unpaid. and my father was one for a number of years and we probably all got family and friends who've done this. yes. and we worry about our parents and everything else and to look at this and and we need to look at this and this. don't this should this. i don't think this should become political football for become a political football for the political parties. it's important. it's bit important. it is. and it's a bit like is a problem like the nhs. there is a problem to in nhs. there's to be solved in the nhs. there's a to be solved in adult a problem to be solved in adult social yeah. and this will social care. yeah. and this will be a big debate when it comes to the election later in the general election later in the general election later in the think so because the year. i think so because we'll looking for real we'll be looking for real answers. were answers. and when we were talking earlier, do talking about earlier, who do people for? i don't

people want to vote for? i don't think going to matter about think it's going to matter about angela rayner's tax bill. and this going be this i think it's going to be a matter which which put matter which which party put some policies the some sensible policies on the table. these are table. yeah. and these are policy table. yeah. and these are polthese real things. what >> these are real things. what real to know about real people want to know about people in the community. real people want to know about peoyeah. the community. real people want to know about peoyeah. people nmunity. real people want to know about peoyeah. people nmuvote the >> yeah. people will vote on the party. they belize deal party. they belize will deal with issues. with these issues. >> well, labour then. >> well, what about labour then. because telegraph, hidden because in the telegraph, hidden cost plans cost of labour's care plans revealed hand revealed labour's plan to hand trade unions powers to trade unions greater powers to negotiate social care. pay is expected to cost billions of pounds, despite the policy being given no funding, as the keir starmer is committed to establishing a fair pay agreement in the sector and this sounds to me like trouble is brewing for the next labour government. linda. >> oh, i think it is. but no one's under any, delusion. delusion over this that the next whoever gets in and it probably will be labour will face a really, really tough time in every sector, but particularly this one. >> i suspect the care care sector in particular for both

adults for and young people. >> it's so diabolical. yeah, so, so hard to find. >> now, listen, don't we need to have honest conversation with have an honest conversation with the public about this covid that we're to pay we're going to have to pay higher taxes to accommodate these this is these care needs? this is something that theresa may flirted with in her notorious manifest , flirted with in her notorious manifest, which caused her to lose david cameron's majority. of course , she was honest with of course, she was honest with the public. didn't like the message. >> i, i won't agree with that fully, mark, because i think there was a problem with a campaign then, not just that message. >> there were a number of things that weren't quite clear to the pubuc that weren't quite clear to the public we through public as we went through a short, sharp campaign took short, sharp campaign that took the of the sails of the wind out of the sails of that . that election. >> but there was the >> and but there was the dementia element the dementia tax element to the manifesto, was damaging, manifesto, which was damaging, wasn't it? >> there was. and you're >> it was. there was. and you're right, have have right, people do have to have a clear conversation. i don't clear conversation. but i don't want hear about the cost and want to hear about the cost and the money without understanding what yeah, what are the outcomes. yeah, i want hear parties talking want to hear the parties talking about are the solutions. about what are the solutions. how are we going with how are we going to deal with this crisis? what services are going to be delivered at that price, we're going

price, not just that we're going to cost burden and to increase the cost burden and therefore to therefore we're going to increase taxation on i increase taxes, taxation on i think the british public are not fools. want to see better fools. they want to see better outcomes services delivered . outcomes and services delivered. and we will we will pay for those. and if they are delivered until you hit this problem like you with your father, you did with your father, not that problem , it's your parents. >> so it's challenge. i guess >> so it's a challenge. i guess you realise how many you don't realise how many thousands of pounds it costs every month to pay for your parents care. no, my father looked after my grandfather, who's passed away now for almost ten years. >> yeah. and it was quite a, you know , it was a full time job. know, it was a full time job. full time job. he wasn't paid for that. but but that's that's for that. but but that's that's for a care home. >> can be six, £7,000 per >> and it can be six, £7,000 per month. right. >> exactly. right. >> exactly. right. >> meanwhile chris wild payback time. what payback time? punishment working. this punishment isn't working. this is in the metro. thousands of criminals ordered to do unpaid work, such as cleaning graffiti, get away without finishing it. they've written off 280,000 hours of punishment last year alone. yeah, it's.

>> do you know what i wish? stuff like this rehabilitation. i go into a lot of jails. i work with a lot of these young men as well, who get these kind of well, who will get these kind of community it doesn't community orders. it doesn't work. i want to see work. you know, i want to see these people getting into these people getting back into working know, working programs, you know, paying working programs, you know, paying investing back paying taxes, investing back into stuff into the economy, doing stuff like then like this. it doesn't work. then they're not going to be held accountable do it. accountable if they don't do it. there's kind of huge there's no kind of huge ramifications if they don't turn up service , but up for community service, but sometimes works. sometimes it works. >> works. >> sometimes it works. >> sometimes it works. >> implemented when we were >> we implemented when we were at city hall. yeah. on people who fare evading on the who were fare evading on the underground and earn your travel back scheme. >> think getting >> but you think getting community is going to >> but you think getting comrthemy is going to >> but you think getting comrthem from is going to >> but you think getting comrthem from doing going to >> but you think getting comrthem from doing iting to >> but you think getting comrthem from doing it again? i stop them from doing it again? i think it men, because think it british men, because they had an effect. they had had an effect. >> had travel that got >> they had travel that got taken away and they'd have to pay taken away and they'd have to pay travel because pay for their travel because they antisocial. they were being antisocial. >> and did learn lessons. i >> and they did learn lessons. i think it's about it's think it's about how it's delivered. it's to be delivered. it's got to be robust. you've got be able robust. you've got to be able to. constructive as well. yes. >> constructive is the key word. >> constructive is the key word. >> sometimes lose sort >> sometimes we lose that sort of robustness, discipline of of robustness, the discipline of what's on. and it starts what's going on. and it starts to, you know, away and then to, you know, ebb away and then it ineffectual . so

it becomes ineffectual. so i think it can work, but it needs to be delivered with strength and discipline. yeah. >> speaking strength and >> speaking of strength and discipline, story in discipline, a smaller story in the gen z elbows the telegraph. gen z puts elbows back on the table. elbows are making their way back onto the dinner table as youngsters believe that manners are no longer some 60% of longer relevant. some 60% of those in generation z who were polled believe that traditional table manners are no longer rare . suivant, what do you think about this? you've got a couple of kids, haven't you? >> i've got full disclosure . a >> i've got full disclosure. a five year old, a three year old boys who i spend 90% of my time saying, what do you say, please ? saying, what do you say, please? thank you. i'm waiting for the magic word. what's the magic word? daddy, please, just. >> we've got to build in as many manners as we used to say. my family, you ship your oars, you do what? >> your oars? ship family >> with your oars? ship family show. >> linda, we've had a drink. >> linda, we've all had a drink. >> linda, we've all had a drink. >> that's what you don't >> yeah, that's what you don't like. like this. like. it's not up like this. oh, i see like you i see down like that. you carefully eat. remember carefully eat. i remember a local headmistress in richmond park this is a very

park telling me this is a very exclusive school. expensive exclusive school. very expensive school . told me she was school. told me she was completely horrified by five year olds turning up and eating their lunch with their fingers. and now i appreciate that. it's sometimes possible to do that in sometimes possible to do that in some cultures, and sometimes it's possible to do that with some food. but you need to teach children table manners. >> i just appreciate my kids eating it's so difficult eating because it's so difficult and they have some bad habits. and i'm not proud to say this, but sometimes when boy in but sometimes when my boy in particular two to him particular he's two to get him to i've got put his to eat, i've got to put his computer there with the tea and to eat, i've got to put his con hard.�* there with the tea and to eat, i've got to put his con hard. these with the tea and to eat, i've got to put his conhard. these are] the tea and to eat, i've got to put his conhard. these are bad. tea and it's hard. these are bad. >> that one. >> fess up to that one. >> fess up to that one. >> but he's only two. >> but he's only two. >> of course. but there is >> but of course. but there is an element of, you know, what we can do as parents and you've done grown done it with your grown up. certainly. fine certainly. now you've got fine three kids you talking three kids you were talking about and all achieved great things. we, know, as things. so we, you know, as parents, set a bit of a parents, can we set a bit of a benchmark? yeah there is benchmark? yeah but there is some manners the person some manners maketh the person and standards slipping and etc. our standards slipping though know, teenagers, though are, you know, teenagers, youngsters , are they less polite youngsters, are they less polite or do they have fewer manners? >> i think the queen said the

most important thing to teach children manners. late children is manners. the late queen was queen elizabeth, that was a great priority her. just great priority for her. i just wonder . i you see great priority for her. i just wonder. i you see kids wonder. i mean, you see kids going school in sliders now, going to school in sliders now, essentially flops, not essentially flip flops, not properly dressed. >> , but but i just, i just >> me, but but i just, i just i've got a girl, ten year old girls turn into a teenager and it's, it's different. >> but for me, i think the most bafic >> but for me, i think the most basic and the most important, like you said, please and thank you having respect for you and having respect for everybody, i think those are the most manners. most essential kind of manners. >> it still? >> is it being still? >> is it being still? >> is it still being taught or is it been allowed to is it has it been allowed to sude? is it has it been allowed to slide think is it has it been allowed to slidethink so i come from a very >> i think so i come from a very working class family and i always and you. always say please and thank you. we at the we always had dinner at the dinner table. we always had dinner at the din do table. we always had dinner at the din do the .e. we always had dinner at the din do the next generation do the same? >> well, they're doing my house, that's if you make a mistake >> and if you make a mistake then apologise and say sorry. >> manners maketh the man. >> yeah, manners maketh the man. >> yeah, manners maketh the man. >> about this, >> well, what about this, linda sun investigation? >> well, what about this, linda sur deadly gation? sale >> deadly ops on sale in uk hotels. brits are being pressured signing for pressured into signing up for potentially cosmetic potentially deadly cosmetic surgery roadshows at surgery in medical roadshows at uk to say uk hotels. i've got to say i wouldn't mind a bum lift in a houdayinn wouldn't mind a bum lift in a holiday inn express. >> you really don't want one. >> you really don't want one. >> one most

>> that's one of the most dangerous operations you can have, about this. have, and i know about this. >> well, they'd find >> well, they'd have to find my bum but did this story bum first, but i did this story years for , for itv's tonight years ago for, for itv's tonight programme with trevor programme i flew to with trevor mcdonald . mcdonald. >> yeah. where? >> yeah. where? >> where they were actually the reason went is because they reason i went is because they were operating in, in were operating on women in, in people on people's kitchen tables. they weren't going to a hotel, they were going to their homes. and it was the brazilian bum lift because plastic bum lift because all the plastic surgeons were in south america , expertise were in south america, where they beach culture, where they have a beach culture, and all come up to and they'd all come up to florida and they were all operating. they were cowboy cosmetic surgeons, and it was causing so many injuries and at least a few deaths. even before we got there. >> my goodness gracious, someone who cowers at the sight of even a needle, would you? i can't go anywhere near. and just the sound of. >> i just think now it's just so affordable as well, though you think now, it's like it's as common as going to dentist, common as going to the dentist, going to have botox. >> terrible. going to have botox. >> it's terrible. going to have botox. >> it's horrible. it's shocker. >> an absolute shocker. well listen we've got more listen folks, we've got more from newspaper front

from tomorrow's newspaper front pages, including the pages, including including the first sighting of the lesser spotted chief of the post office, paula vennells , and also office, paula vennells, and also a shocking story about britain becoming the couch potato nation of the world. and we've been conducting an exclusive mark dolan tonight people's poll. i've been asking, is david miliband right? that brexit has made the uk a lower status nafion made the uk a lower status nation ? well, the results are nation? well, the results are in. i shall reveal all

next. now, we've been conducting an exclusive mark dolan tonight people's poll. we've been asking, is david miliband right? that brexit has made the uk a lower status nation ? well, 16.6% lower status nation? well, 16.6% say yes, whilst . 83.4% say no. say yes, whilst. 83.4% say no. i agree with that. group now let's get reaction to all of tomorrow's big stories with former adviser to boris johnson, lord kulveer, ranger, journalist and communications advisor linda jubilee and author and campaigner for children in care chris wild and maria. you've got some front pages for me. let's have a look at what we've got. start with the times newspaper now and we shall go for this , now and we shall go for this, rise of the 24 hour wait for a bed in a and e. and i think

that's. and i think that's us. and how about this story in the telegraph ? britain's new telegraph? britain's new flexible working rules risk turning the country into a couch potato nation. new measures introduced over the weekend mean that employees have the right to ask for flexible working from their first day in a new job. this could include requests for remote working, staggered hours orjob sharing. are you having this call? there >> no . i think you know, we've >> no. i think you know, we've got to do we've got to get people back into the habit of being in the office, being able to continue to work. yes i think job sharing works. i think that that the flexibility and that's quite a good innovation to have also that has to be done with some real discipline. i've seen it work really well where people are quite committed to it, but it's got to be in a structure.

it's got to be in a way that's really well managed and that's where management then matters. and those things just and sometimes those things just fall over. yes, and you don't get the outcomes . well then it's get the outcomes. well then it's the poor people need that the poor people who need that service get the we service that don't get the we saw rees—mogg when he was, saw jacob rees—mogg when he was, i secretary or i think, business secretary or was he head of house of, at the leader of house of commons. leader of the house of commons. >> anyway he's in the >> but anyway he's in the cabinet he round his department. >> sorry i've missed you. department. >> politei've missed you. department. >> polite notes. ssed you. >> polite notes. >> polite notes. >> sorry i missed you. >> i'm sorry i missed you. >> i'm sorry i missed you. >> coaxing >> sorry i missed you coaxing people back the office. people back into the office. you've office for you've got the office for national of national statistics. some of their staff think over 1000 threatening strike over being threatening to strike over being asked in two days week. >> wow. look, all jobs are different. >> but we do know. and i've worked in corporate life for 25 years, the office years, i understand the office environment and what i talked about when i was in corporate life is good. corporate citizenship. learn from citizenship. you learn from other people, people, other people, younger people, especially traits, management styles, culture that happens through people coming together. you can have it reduced. you can have some jobs can be done in certain time at home, but there

must be a core element that not must be a core element that not must be. but for most office space jobs that people come together working as teams , together working as teams, building respect for each other. and i think all of that happens as people come to her. we're naturally to be naturally social. you want to be social and you want to be travelling to and from the office, know, building office, you know, building up your day. your 10,000 steps a day. >> you to be meeting people >> you want to be meeting people in office try and reduce in the office to try and reduce any on your mental any bad effects on your mental wellbeing. be wellbeing. you need to be communing with people . you communing with other people. you don't need me to be doing it full time. but but if you can have flexible work and i think that's a good idea where you're in the at least three in the office at least three days a week, got an days a week, i've got an incredible life story, but before do a couple of before we do that, a couple of emails catch on social care. >> barbara says mark, i was an unpaid seven carer for unpaid 24 over seven carer for 25 retiring and have 25 years after retiring and have a of experience and a wealth of experience and advice in this field. could i find was interested? find anyone who was interested? they're touch it they're terrified to touch it and how to keep and i knew how to keep someone out home, i think out of a care home, and i think that's maybe thing is that's maybe the key thing is about making sure people are healthier. regarding angela rayner said, hi mark, rayner, paul has said, hi mark, let's was pretty let's imagine it was pretty

patel or liz truss or suella braverman rayner would be touring tv studios demanding touring the tv studios demanding their immediate resignation. no ifs , no buts, just resign would ifs, no buts, just resign would be mantra . what about be her mantra. what about schools, religious schools not accepting non—religious children? are this from victoria? who is in lancaster, which is a beautiful city? victoria says, hi mark, i'm a pagan of the old religion and a very small minority religion in the uk. i attended a catholic school because legally they couldn't stop anyone going to their school. 70% of the students were muslims. there was one hindu where would i go if schools didn't have to take everyone? how far would kids be expected to travel? i think that's really point . that's a really fair point. thank you for that. ann widdecombe talks funding widdecombe talks about funding for our armed forces being the most thing , for our armed forces being the most thing, but a most important thing, but a country the size of the uk should have minimal protection on nuclear deterrent is sufficient, says chris, and what about this from lynn? last word on angela rayner. you can tell she's lying. her lips are moving . it's obviously a trait that's

required to be in government these days. lynn thank you for that. a couple of words on the times right. as of the 24 hour wait for bed and a and e. wait for a bed and a and e. imagine 24 hours in a&e. >> welcome to hell . yeah. >> welcome to hell. yeah. scandalous. my little girl was sick the other day. we called 111. they said. i said, can i get doctor's appointment? no, get a doctor's appointment? no, go a&e. i said, i won't do go to a&e. i said, i won't do that. i'm not going to risk sitting for 12 to 24 sitting in the a&e for 12 to 24 hours a ten year old girl. hours of a ten year old girl. it's scandalous, it's just it's. yeah. lost for words on this. indeed. >> and, linda, it's the most , >> and, linda, it's the most, what can i say? visible metric of the challenges facing the nhs is the length of a&e times. >> yeah, i know and i do a lot of work with our emergency services doing their media awareness and media coaching, if you so. so i hear things you like. so. so i hear things from the front line and the situation is really, really dire with with ambulances lining up outside hospitals , unable to outside the hospitals, unable to offload patients, even into the bed or to a chair where they've got to wait , they can't get them

got to wait, they can't get them out of the ambulances. >> well, listen, i've had a brilliant idea . let's have brilliant idea. let's have another lockdown to save the nhs. in? definitely only nhs. who's in? definitely only kidding, can i thank my fantastic pundits tonight? kulveer. chris and linda , the kulveer. chris and linda, the absolute dream team. my a team. i'm back on saturday, no. friday at 8:00, friday at eight. but, can i just say that the production team comprises two people on mark dolan tonight today, and it's katie and maria. they smashed it. so thanks for doing a great job. yeah. i can't doing a great job. yeah. i can't do anything without you watching and home. i'll and listening at home. i'll catch saturday friday catch you on saturday and friday and is next. and sunday. headliners is next. >> that warm feeling inside ed from boxt boilers, sponsors of weather on gb news. >> hello. here's your latest weather update from the met office. we hold on to rather unsettled weather across the uk dunng unsettled weather across the uk during the week ahead. further spells of rain in areas and spells of rain in most areas and often quite storm. often quite windy to storm. kathleen started to move away towards north and northeast towards the north and northeast

of notice low of the uk now, but notice low pressure gathering once again towards southwest and it's towards the southwest and it's this will bring further this that will bring further wet and the next and windy weather over the next couple back to the couple of days. back to the detail this evening and detail for this evening and overnight, and it's fairly overnight, and it's a fairly quiet for areas, at quiet picture for many areas, at least for a time, notice least for a time, because notice there's more wet weather there's a more wet weather coming the southwest coming in across the southwest of uk into parts of wales, of the uk into parts of wales, and blustery showers of the uk into parts of wales, and seen blustery showers of the uk into parts of wales, and seen recentlyy showers of the uk into parts of wales, and seen recently uphowers of the uk into parts of wales, and seen recently up towards we've seen recently up towards the gradually the north—west will gradually ease hours , ease into the early hours, temperatures dipping down to mid single the north single figures towards the north under spells under the clearest spells overnight, to overnight, but starting to rise tonight cloud rain tonight as the cloud and rain comes up from the south and southwest. there'll be some bright weather around tomorrow across southern and eastern areas morning, but areas during the morning, but showery already showery bursts of rain already gathering south gathering down towards the south and southwest, becoming more widespread england widespread across england and wales afternoon , and wales into the afternoon, and some of those turning quite heavy. ireland, after heavy. northern ireland, after a bright see some rain bright start, will see some rain in so it's in the afternoon. so it's scotland set to see the scotland that's set to see the best the weather here. plenty best of the weather here. plenty of feeling pleasant of sunshine and feeling pleasant enough winds with enough in light winds with temperatures about 12 temperatures up to about 12 degrees. like degrees. tuesday looks like being very unsettled day being a very unsettled day across areas. have across all areas. we have warnings wind and warnings in force for wind and rain. wettest they're

rain. wettest weather. they're likely north—east of likely towards the north—east of the and the windiest the uk and the windiest conditions generally down towards southwest . towards the south and southwest. but you are pretty but wherever you are pretty blustery wet day come and blustery on wet day to come and it stays unsettled during it stays quite unsettled during the a bit the week ahead. perhaps a bit warmer a bit drier come warmer and a bit drier come thursday, but generally speaking, . speaking, very unsettled. >> looks like things are heating up boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news is

i >> -- >> good evening. the top stories from the gb newsroom. thousands of israelis are gathering in jerusalem calling for the release of hostages still being held by hamas in tel aviv. candles were lit for the hostages. it comes as today marks six months since the terror attack on october 7th. families of hostages also joined a rally in london to call for their release, saying the six months after the attack have been hell . also marking the been hell. also marking the occasion, the prime minister, rishi sunak , has said the rishi sunak, has said the government continues to stand by israel's right to defend its security and added the uk is shocked by the bloodshed and called for an immediate humanitarian pause in fighting. he also urged hamas to release its hostages and implored israel to get aid into gaza more swiftly . meanwhile, the foreign swiftly. meanwhile, the foreign secretary has used the occasion

to stress that the uk's support for israel is not unconditional. writing in the sunday times, lord cameron said there's no doubt where the blame lies over the death of three british aid workers and added this must never happen again. john chapman, james henderson and james kirby died in airstrikes carried out by the idf on the 1st of april. the deputy prime minister has denied claims that the uk is failing to prepare for war. oliver dowden is defending the government after outgoing armed forces minister james heappey told the telegraph only ministry of defence officials attended a war crime preparation exercise, which was meant for the whole of government. former defence secretary ben wallace has backed him up, saying too many in government are just hoping everything goes away . hoping everything goes away. police have named a man they're searching for after a woman was stabbed to death in broad daylight in bradford city centre. west yorkshire police detectives say they want to