next from mexico within the next houn from mexico within the next hour. only 1 from mexico within the next hour. only1 in from mexico within the next hour. only 1 in 4 from mexico within the next hour. onlyi in 4 muslims in hour. only 1 in 4 muslims in britain say hamas were guilty. on october the 7th of those atrocities. i find that really quite extraordinary. and william wragg has been in the news. the victim apparently , of a honey victim apparently, of a honey trap. i will tell you why i do not believe william wragg to be a victim at all. frankly, just an idiot, and probably quite a dangerous one. but before all of that, let's get the news with polly middlehurst. >> nigel, thanks very much indeed. and good evening to you. well, the top story from the gb newsroom tonight is that west yorkshire police have confirmed that a nationwide is now that a nationwide manhunt is now underway for a man wanted in connection with the murder of a woman in bradford, and they confirmed at a press conference this afternoon . the suspect is this afternoon. the suspect is known them. 25 year old habib known to them. 25 year old habib masoom came to britain on a student visa and is believed to be from the oldham area . he's

be from the oldham area. he's described as an asian man of slim build . police want to speak slim build. police want to speak to any taxi drivers in the bradford area who may have dnven bradford area who may have driven the suspect to bradford moor park. he's likely, police say, to have paid in cash . say, to have paid in cash. people are also being warned not to approach the suspect . but to approach the suspect. but meanwhile, the killers of 23 year old footballer cody fisher have been jailed for life today, with minimum terms to serve of 26 and 25 years respectively. the semi—pro footballer was stabbed and killed during a fight on the dance floor of a birmingham nightclub on boxing day in 2022. a jury at birmingham crown court found 23 year old remi gordon and 22 year old cammy carpenter guilty of his murder . old cammy carpenter guilty of his murder. cody fisher's mum tracy said you never expect your child to be murdered . well, in child to be murdered. well, in other news today, 11 people have been arrested following a pro—palestine protest at the labour party's headquarters . the labour party's headquarters. the group, known as youth demand ,

group, known as youth demand, were sprayed both the inside and outside of the building in red paint. the protesters are claiming the party are complicit in what they've described as the murder of palestinians in israel's conflict with the hamas terror group. that's after sir keir starmer reiterated his call just this morning for the government to publish its advice on whether israel is violating international humanitarian law international humanitarian law in gaza . meanwhile, a new poll in gaza. meanwhile, a new poll has found that 74% of british muslims would not object if abortion was outlawed. a survey of 1000 british muslims carried out by jl partners also found that just 28% would object if homosexuality was banned . homosexuality was banned. homosexuality was decriminalised in 1967 and is currently supported by 62% of the general public. supported by 62% of the general pubuc.the supported by 62% of the general public. the research was commissioned by the henry jackson society, which says the results reveal attitudes are very different from the bulk of the british population and in the british population and in

the united states. donald trump says that a woman's right to abortion should be decided on a state by state basis . polls show state by state basis. polls show the majority of americans believe terminating a pregnancy should be legal, with about 1 believe terminating a pregnancy should be legal, with about1 in should be legal, with about 1 in 8 voters saying it's the most important issue for them at the next us election. well, the former president, who's running again this year, said the overturning of the historic roe v wade ruling actually means choice is returning to the american people. >> many states will be different. many will have a different. many will have a different number of weeks , or different number of weeks, or some will have more conservative than others . and that's what than others. and that's what they will be at the end of the day. this is all about the will of the people. you must follow your heart or in many cases, your heart or in many cases, your religion or your faith . your religion or your faith. like ronald reagan, i am strongly in favour of exceptions for rape, incest and life of the mother donald trump. >> for the latest stories , do >> for the latest stories, do sign up to gb news alerts. scan

the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. common alerts. >> good evening. well, the last total eclipse here in the uk was back in 1999 as people headed down to cornwall in vast numbers and sir patrick moore was on the telly . and of course, typically telly. and of course, typically it was wet and windy and cloudy. but these eclipses are phenomenal events and there is one happening right now and it's going up from mexico through nonh going up from mexico through north america , and we thought north america, and we thought we'd show you it live. so i'm joined right now by doctor david whitehouse, astronomer and biographer on the sun and the moon. who better .7 david, we're moon. who better? david, we're about three minutes away, i think, in mexico from , totality. think, in mexico from, totality. >> yes. we are this is the moment when, remarkably, the disk of the moon fits precisely over the disk of the sun. and if

you think that they're so different in distance and they're so different in size, it is a remarkable double coincidence that they fit over one another and the moon obscures the bright disk of the sun.so obscures the bright disk of the sun. so we can see the outer atmosphere of sun, the corona. and that's just about to happen down in mexico. and over the next hour and 45 minutes, that point of totality will move across the united states from the southwest of mexico to the northeast of canada. and millions of people will be along the 110 mile wide path to witness this remarkable spectacle of nature and how long does totality itself last? well this is quite a long eclipse, so the longest you can possibly get of totality is just over six minutes. this is just over four minutes. this is just over four minutes in most places. so it is actually a very long eclipse, if the weather is cooperate and i hear that there are certain

places like dallas where the weather is not cooperating, you should get a pretty long view of it. but the important thing to mention is that never look at it with your unaided eye or with an optical instrument. never, ever, in any circumstances , look at in any circumstances, look at the sun. that way you need proper eclipse glasses or you need to view it online. but people, when they have seen an eclipse, it changes lives. it is one of the most, perhaps the most dramatic spectacle of nature we can witness. >> yes, it certainly is. and doesit >> yes, it certainly is. and does it literally go? does it literally go from light from day to darkness in minutes ? to darkness in minutes? >> it goes in seconds, actually, because the sun is so bright that even if a tiny sliver of it is still showing through, it is very bright. it affects the whole whole landscape , but when whole whole landscape, but when it is obscured within seconds, the landscape goes dark. the birds usually think it's night—time and they stop

singing. >> wow. and we're looking at the pictures right now, the nasa pictures. this is mexico, right now. totality in a few seconds, i suspect . david. i suspect. david. >> remaining. and when that sliver goes in a few seconds, you will then see this this bright, flower, this corona atmosphere around the sun. >> well, let's keep our eyes on this right now. and, there are some times when pictures can do a lot more than words which for which i apologise to those listening in their cars. but this is now total darkness in mexico , and we're waiting to see mexico, and we're waiting to see this corona that david whitehouse has described . whitehouse has described. >> i think the exposure on that camera might be a little tricky, but , we should be able to see but, we should be able to see something in a few moments. okay well, we'll stick with it. >> we will stick with it. >> we will stick with it. >> there we are. there it is.

wow gosh , there you are. and wow gosh, there you are. and it's very scientists are very interested in the shape of that corona. the shape of the hot outer atmosphere of the sun, because it varies over the sun's 11 year solar cycle. and although we can observe it from space, with our own artificial eclipses, if you like, we get the best view when this happens. so there's a lot of as well as wonder. there's a lot of science to be done over the next, next hour and a half . hour and a half. >> that is a completely extraordinary picture. and exactly as you described, the corona seems to be getting bigger and bigger. >> it is as, as the if you like, the moon settles in front of the sun, and the little bits are , sun, and the little bits are, are blotted out. you'll see a better picture. but you also see things called baily's beads dunng things called baily's beads during this time , which is the during this time, which is the fact that the edge of the moon

has mountains and valleys, and sometimes the sun will shine through the valleys, and you'll see little beads along the edge of the moon, which we can see little white beads we can see right now. >> that's right, that's right . >> that's right, that's right. >> that's right, that's right. >> it's a it's a beautiful example of a great cosmic coincidence that this happens. we don't know why, in the past, the moon was too close to the earth , and obscured the sun earth, and obscured the sun completely. in the future, the moon will be too small to do this. for some reason, it's just our a few tens of millions of years when we are here. the dinosaurs did not see this type of thing. these. these eclipses are for us. >> and the next one in our part of the world is going to be 2026, where majorca or iceland are recommended if you want to go and see it, i understand david, the next uk one is not until 2090, which many of us won't make. >> i don't think so, but i shall try . try. >> well, all i can say is a big,

big thank you to you for coming on and telling us what we were about to witness. and yeah, truly an astonishing sight. and thank you, david whitehouse, for that great explanation. thank you very much indeed . well, i you very much indeed. well, i have to say, folks , i thought have to say, folks, i thought that was really worthwhile when he talked about the corona, i really had no idea that it would look as dramatic as that. and so this will now, over the next hour and 45 minutes, make its way right across to new england . way right across to new england. as david said, the weather forecast in dallas is bad, but it's quite good out on the east coast of america and many, many millions of people are out there hoping to see this sight. i hope you agree that was well worth showing very, very dramatic and really quite exciting. now on to something that is really rather extraordinarily depressing. in bradford on saturday afternoon, a woman pushing a baby in a pram through a park was stabbed to

death. mark white, gb news home and security editor , has an and security editor, has an exclusive story on this for us. mark, what happened and who was the perpetrator ? the perpetrator? >> well, the perpetrator is still at large this evening. someone who is described by the police as being extremely dangerous . police as being extremely dangerous. the public, for obvious reasons, are being urged to not approach this man. habiba masoom , who is a bangladeshi masoom, who is a bangladeshi national who came to the uk two years ago. we've been told on a student visa. now the information that i've been told is that this man, was on a course, a degree level course, which of course allows him. then on that student visa to remain in the country for around five years. normally, i'm told that this man was not an overstayer , this man was not an overstayer, so he was still within the terms of this student visa, but he is

being hunted at this time for the murder of kusuma akhtar , a the murder of kusuma akhtar, a 27 year old mother who was pushing her baby in a pram in the centre of bradford on saturday afternoon. she was stabbed multiple times around the neck area , a local doctor the neck area, a local doctor who was off duty, passers—by rushed to try to help her, but she died a short time later in hospital. now, police have confirmed , seemed that both the confirmed, seemed that both the victim and the prime suspect in this case were known to each other , they have not as yet said other, they have not as yet said what the nature of that relationship was, but both the victim and the prime suspect lived in oldham . there have been lived in oldham. there have been police raids taking place throughout today in oldham, in chester and in burnley , where chester and in burnley, where the prime suspect has links to. he was studying at a university in bedfordshire , for a course in

in bedfordshire, for a course in digital marketing. he was a keen blogger as well, posting , blogger as well, posting, various videos on the internet of himself . well, now this man of himself. well, now this man has gone to ground . the last has gone to ground. the last time he was seen, nigel was about, 340 in the afternoon on saturday. some 20 minutes after this attack, and he has not been seen since. now, the home office, incidentally, have issued a statement, they say, with regard to the man's immigration status, it would be inappropriate to comment given the live investigation. however, they have said where foreign nationals are involved and then ultimately convicted of serious offences , then they will face offences, then they will face the full weight of the law and they will face deportation at they will face deportation at the earliest possible opportunity. >> yes, well, we'll see about that. >> yes, well, we'll see about that . mark white, thank you for that. mark white, thank you for giving us that ugly, grisly story. and we'll see as and when

they catch this man, whether he is actually deported. i rather doubt that will happen in a moment. there was some polling out over the weekend that should, in my opinion, have led every front page of the newspapers. today should have been debate on all the been the major debate on all the broadcast channels, yet they broadcast channels, and yet they don't talk about it. don't want to talk about it. this is a survey, a scientific survey of british muslims, and it asks them their attitudes towards hamas, their attitudes towards hamas, their attitudes towards many , many questions in towards many, many questions in society. and it tells us how many of them think this country should introduce sharia law. it genuinely is shocking all of that in a

ever since the 7th of october, we've seen these pro—palestinian marches taking place in london and elsewhere. indeed. i drove through one on friday evening in parliament square and was very pleased with the fact that i was

in a blacked out car, windows wise, because i've been deeply critical. you know, we've got people living inside our country that totally that believe in a totally different of values and different set of values and priorities. i was assured by priorities. but i was assured by everybody , don't worry, it's everybody, don't worry, it's only a minority. everybody, don't worry, it's only a minority . and after all, only a minority. and after all, only a minority. and after all, on these marches, we see an awful lot of white british christians. and i kind of wanted to believe it until a poll published this weekend conducted for the henry jackson society, but done by the reputable jl partners has come out with these facts. this is a survey of british muslims. remember, only 25% believe that hamas committed murder and rape. well, we've all seen the pictures of what happened.the seen the pictures of what happened. the heli gliders that came in to that festival, but only 25% of british muslims are prepared to accept that it actually happened. nearly half, 46% sympathise with hamas . hang

46% sympathise with hamas. hang on. hamas is a terrorist organisation, a proscribed organisation, a proscribed organisation by the british government seem to be not just an enemy to israel, but potentially an enemy to us. and yet nearly half of british muslims support it, or at least sympathise with it. 52% of british muslims want it to be illegal to show an image of mohammed the prophet. well, you know, in our country we do cartoons of the archbishop of canterbury, we do cartoons of the pope and anybody in religion. it's certainly up to their image being portrayed, and often in a less than favourable light. and the one that really, i thought was perhaps most worrying of all, that 32% of british muslims want to see shana british muslims want to see sharia law implemented in the uk . i find this genuinely terrifying, and i say that because because the muslim population of britain is 4 million today, by 2050, it's projected to be over 10 million. are we to have a huge group of

millions of people living in our midst that don't they not only don't share our values, but in many ways would like to impose their values on us? that's what i'm disturbed by. but i'm joined by doctor alan mendoza, founder and of course, executive director of the henry jackson society, who conducted the poll. and i'm joined by mohammed amin, former chairman of the conservative muslim forum, alan, you commissioned this poll. were you commissioned this poll. were you surprised by the results? >> in some senses, yes. in some senses, no. i mean, clearly what i what we ought to be looking at is the totality of what we're seeing. and the totality of what we're seeing is that there is clearly an extremism problem within in this subset of people in uk, it's writ large in the uk, it's writ large across the board. it is, you know, question after question after question . it quite after question. it is quite different control poll of different to the control poll of the population . and even the general population. and even if can quibble certain if you can quibble about certain bits well, you know, bits and say, well, you know, people didn't know what they were the is that were answering, the fact is that overall, it's showing much overall, it's showing a much larger of extremism

larger level of extremism amongst the british muslim communities than general communities than the general population. communities than the general poputhink. communities than the general poputhink that's right. and, >> i think that's right. and, mohammed, you know, you've been on and we're on this show before and we're always pleased you. always very pleased to have you. and have muslim and we have we have muslim priests come this show priests that come on this show and argue these points, and and we argue these points, and you know, you always condemn the acts extremists within the acts of extremists within the muslim community. you always do. and that's quite right. it does need to be called out, just as you know any acts of extremism within any community in a democracy should be called out. and the point i made at the top there was that i've wanted to believe that it's a minority of the british muslim population that support these views, because all the muslims i know want to get on with their lives and do well and don't go on these demonstrations, but mohammed, these figures indicate that half of the muslim population have an entirely different set of priorities and values to that, what we would call british. >> well, it's a big survey. i downloaded the tables. yeah this

afternoon, and i've been looking at them and some of the things are pretty discouraging. others you wonder what people think about the polls. for example, 9% of the total british population want sharia law in this country. what do they mean by that ? what do they mean by that? >> well, 9% of the british population would be. i'm going to have a guess here. but most of them would be of the muslim faith. >> only 6.5% of the is the muslim faith. >> all right. so there's a tiny 2, a tiny 2, but one of sharia law. but what were they thinking about? >> and for that matter, what do the muslims themselves actually mean? >> well, remember that with all polling, there is a margin of error of 2 or 3. people misunderstand the question. so i'm not going to take that too seriously. but the word you just used discouraging. yeah i wouldn't use that word. i would say alarming , when i look at say alarming, when i look at this country and what british muslims are doing, the careers they're pursuing , their public

they're pursuing, their public spirited attitude, i find it discouraging that we're getting answers like this from the poll, but i do not panic. when i look at this poll. i am discouraged by certain aspects of it, particularly, for example, people are in denial about hamas and its murders on october the 7th. >> yeah, yeah, i mohammed, is, you know, as he always does , you know, as he always does, using very moderate language, never wanting to inflame any debate. but it's much worse than discouraging, isn't it? >> yeah. look, i sympathise with mohammed's point of view. he he would not agree with these views quite clearly. and i'm sure he's as you know, struggling to understand it as much as everyone else. but it is worrying. it's deeply worrying that some people who that there are some people who are who have are not like mohammed, who have are not like mohammed, who have a viewpoint a very different viewpoint quite clearly. what's particularly clearly. and what's particularly worrying, is you if worrying, nigel, is if you if you dissect results on you dissect the results on almost different point, almost every different point, the cohort much more the youngest cohort is much more radical than others. and perhaps that's societal that's a generalised societal problem , but it's a large problem, but it's a large cohort, obviously, given the way

the population pyramid is working. and the other fascinating and terrifying thing is graduates much more is that graduates are much more radical non—graduates. so radical than non—graduates. so it seems that having a university education is no bar. and in fact, in some ways appears to be a gateway to more radical views. >> well, i was a trotskyist at 20. >> yeah. i mean, that is a fair point. you know, a lot of people have opinions at university that change. but i also think alan's point here really is these figures are across the board. and that's what makes them very, very surprising. yes, there's a preponderance in youth , but it preponderance in youth, but it does right through the ages, does go right through the ages, doesn't it? >> correct. when say >> correct. and when we say graduates, we don't mean necessarily who are 21. necessarily people who are 21. we who's graduated we mean anyone who's graduated from university given from university at any given point. that could be, you point. so that could be, you know, someone in their 70s. >> i'm beginning >> now i'm beginning to understand, folks, why the police do police just stand there and do nothing. i'm beginning to understand why are understand why the police are terrified. they clearly understand . and size understand. and the sheer size and scale of the problem. but the really big question to both of you is, what do we do now? >> well, that is the question .

>> well, that is the question. and i think the this is a challenge of integration policy in this country. it is certainly true that many of britain's muslims have integrated beautifully and are on our, you know, kind of playing valuable roles society . but it is roles in society. but it is quite clear from this and other polls, this the only poll polls, this is not the only poll in in recent years that has shown this, it's the shown this, but it's the starkest. is the starkest, starkest. it is the starkest, which you things may which tells you that things may have worse, which tells have gotten worse, which tells you policy not have gotten worse, which tells yotworking policy not have gotten worse, which tells yotworking in policy not have gotten worse, which tells yotworking in the licy not have gotten worse, which tells yotworking in the way not have gotten worse, which tells yotworking in the way intended. be working in the way intended. so happen straight so what has to happen straight away, the away, in my view, is the government dusts off all those reviews that have been gathering, know, kind gathering, you know, kind of dust the shelves, the kc dust on the shelves, the kc review, the review, the review, the khan review, the shawcross implement shawcross review, and implement them we've them straight away and go. we've had this problem. had studies into this problem. we what the issues we understand what the issues are, we can this are, how we can move this forward. let's get on. and actually do it rather than talking about it. >> i put it to you, >> and i put it to you, mohammed, that it's going to be very difficult to integrate or perhaps reintegrate people perhaps even reintegrate people whose views are as hardline as this. and there may be a couple of million of them. >> on the contrary, british muslims have been getting more

integrated with every decade that's gone by. first of all, geographical dispersion, because at one time they used to be very concentrated in certain parts of the country, like tower hamlets , the country, like tower hamlets, people from tower hamlets have been moving out into the countryside , it's quite clear countryside, it's quite clear with every year that goes by, people are more dispersed, more people are more dispersed, more people are more dispersed, more people are living alongside people are living alongside people who are not muslims. and there's been massive progression inside the media, in the professions, in the law, amongst banking. i see a very positive success story of integration . success story of integration. >> well, that may well be true for a large number of muslim people who've done well at school, who are doing well professionally. and you're quite right, there are lots of muslim people doing incredibly well. my worry my worry is worry isn't them. my worry is that if this poll is right up to 2 million, you know who and some will be in good jobs. but i bet a lot are at the poorest end of society.

>> i don't know how the answers to these questions vary by people's socioeconomic group. i don't know if the data tables have that in, but if they do, i haven't had time to look at them in detail, what i think is a real issue is that there are still parts of the country where muslims are sort of quite concentrated geographically , and concentrated geographically, and that dispersion needs to continue. >> does it also depend a little bit on where they came from originally, whether the families are tunisian or, pakistani ? are tunisian or, say, pakistani? >> i suspect not very much. i mean , attitudes towards the mean, attitudes towards the israel—palestine conflict may well vary by geography because of course, everybody's muslim. but it makes a big difference if, well, if the most extreme, if, well, if the most extreme, if you're palestinian, for example, as opposed to if you came from the indian subcontinent or malaysia. >> allen, i've been told many, many and seen myself that many times and seen myself that there areas in the north of there are areas in the north of england communities that england where communities that have from pakistan have not have come from pakistan have not advanced is that part advanced very well. is that part of this problem? >> well, i think part of the problem just this lack of

problem is just this lack of integration those places. so integration in those places. so someone like ed hussain wrote about this in a book where he, you went around the you know, went around the country pointing out country essentially pointing out to termed monoculture , to what he termed a monoculture, which a pakistani which he did mean a pakistani monoculture, of course monoculture, which he, of course understands from understands well, coming from a similar background, has similar background, which has taken from the british taken over from the british culture. so from his perspective, i think perspective, and i think mohammed the same mohammed is saying the same thing it's you thing here. it's about, you know, we've to break down know, we've got to break down that what that area and that is what things like the casey review wanted it suggested wanted to do. it suggested you've to areas down you've got to break areas down so people do have access to so that people do have access to other country and other people in this country and understand not islands understand they are not islands and are of and that they are part of a broader whole. okay. >> well thank you. and >> well folks, thank you. and discouraging alarming make discouraging alarming you make your at home. but your own minds up at home. but let's that government and let's hope that government and civil society do act because we cannot this problem cannot afford for this problem to and grow. now, the to fester and grow. now, the news broke on thursday night that conservative of that conservative member of parliament for hazel grove, william wragg, caught william wragg, had been caught in trap sting. the thing in a honey trap sting. the thing that absolutely stunned me was the support that almost wall to wall support that he got from conservative members of parliament. the charles the

exchequer called him courageous. personally, i think he's an idiot and perhaps a very dangerous idiot, but i'll debate that in a

this is all about standards . in this is all about standards. in pubuc this is all about standards. in public life. mps have to hold themselves to a higher standard than all the rest of us. now, look, we are all capable of stupidity. we are all potentially victims of flattery. but if a member of parliament sends compromising photographs of his person to somebody who is not quite sure who they are, thatis not quite sure who they are, that is an act of idiocy. idiocy. not on its own. perhaps a sackable offence , but what is a sackable offence, but what is a sackable offence, but what is a sackable offence, i think is to give the private telephone numbers of public figures to somebody you already know to be a bad actor , and what astonished

a bad actor, and what astonished me was everybody was coming out supporting him and i wondered, why is it the conservatives fear a by—election is it actually because he's gay? because i tell you what, had this been a late, middle aged heterosexual man who'd send images of himself to a young girl, one over 16 or 18? but, you know, i reckon he'd have lost the whip already. so i've been pondering what the hell is going on. well, finally, someone has broken ranks. andrea jenkins, member of parliament for the tories, has said that , for the tories, has said that, you know, i too received a whatsapp message and reported it . it was worded identically, mentioning conference. unlike some mps, i am not happy with wragg as a mother with a young child who only recently had threats. it's unforgivable of him to compromise the security of mps. action is needed. of fellow mps. action is needed. i agree, the police have announced today there is an investigation they ought to call wragg in, but not to give him victim counselling to find out the truth of how many telephone numbers he's given out and what

other information about british politics or the running of parliament he's given out now. bob ezedi and i often agree on things. we sometimes disagree on things. we sometimes disagree on things. conservative member of parliament isle of wight things. conservative member of parliaryou isle of wight things. conservative member of parliaryou went isle of wight things. conservative member of parliaryou went onisle of wight things. conservative member of parliaryou went on newsnight1t things. conservative member of parliaryou went on newsnight and . bob, you went on newsnight and said him to stand up and say said for him to stand up and say i'm sorry i was weak, takes a strong man . he i'm sorry i was weak, takes a strongman. he might i'm sorry i was weak, takes a strong man . he might have given strong man. he might have given your number over, for all you know, sort hoping he know, i'm sort of hoping he hasn't, be honest. that's not hasn't, to be honest. that's not good enough, come good enough, is it? come on. >> look, i happy >> no. okay. look, am i happy with no. and i think it's with it? no. and i think it's pretty foolish actions. nigel. i completely with that. my completely agree with that. my principle that if principle here is that if i just. if somebody's being blackmailed, the sooner they come out and say i'm being blackmailed. the better. and i would rather forgive him in order to encourage him. and others if they're in a others that if they're in a similar situation they similar situation and if they do, stupid things to stop doing stupid things. so and he's not going, there's to be going, there's not going to be a by—election he could lose by—election here. he could lose the . the whip. >> he could lose to be a no. >> but he could. even if he lost the whip, think he probably second. >> i mean, first thing firstly for jeremy hunt to call him courageous. courageous taking

for jeremy hunt to call him cotaigeous. courageous taking for jeremy hunt to call him cotaigeous.(inirageous taking for jeremy hunt to call him cotaigeous. (in the eous taking for jeremy hunt to call him cotaigeous. (in the street,taking for jeremy hunt to call him cotaigeous. (in the street, notng on a mugger in the street, not betraying colleagues. betraying your colleagues. >> right, at the >> yes, you're right, but at the same time, if you've been done something it actually something stupid, it actually takes reasonably brave person takes a reasonably brave person to have done to think, okay, i have done something stupid. >> now need to fess up. maybe >> i now need to fess up. maybe it about to go public and he it was about to go public and he had no choice. >> i don't know, nigel, potentially, i would rather potentially, but i would rather be the whole of. be on the whole sort of. forgiveness is divine, know, forgiveness is divine, you know, you too you might say there's a bit too much forgiveness places in much forgiveness in places in our i would rather if our society. i would rather if somebody is being blackmailed, i would rather go with would rather them go public with this they're this asap. so they're not. there's damage other there's less damage to other people. not a hypocrite, bob. >> i haven't lived a blameless life. none of us do. and we all do silly things and make mistakes. i've never, ever mistakes. but i've never, ever given telephone given out private telephone numbers even to the numbers of anybody, even to the press, who asked questions, let alone to somebody who i already knew was a seriously bad person. what do we know , by the way? what do we know, by the way? >> sorry. do we think this person was just a lone individual or is this, well, russian front? >> very interesting. i >> it's very interesting. i mean, speculated whether mean, you speculated whether could it be russia, it be could it be russia, could it be china? be, you know, china? could it be, you know, a scurrilous news website ? in the

scurrilous news website? in the case of rag, it doesn't actually matter . no. case of rag, it doesn't actually matter. no. but on the broader picture, we need to know. yeah. >> i mean, the broader picture, it does matter because this doesn't look like the chinese because they're a bit more sophisticated. they lure people in time. there's more in over time. there's more economic incentives. the russians do things russians sometimes do things just crudely, almost just really crudely, almost to be sort of cold war be in that sort of cold war style spy game, rather sort of foolishly. it's not so much foolishly. so it's not so much if they get caught, if they if they get away with it, fine. but actually they're just doing actually if they're just doing some it makes feel some damage, it makes them feel good because it makes them feel like back in soviet like they're back in the soviet union, been union, etc, because it's been it's but i know at least one >> but i know at least one sunday times journalist, at least one senior bbc correspondent. been very correspondent. so it's been very much westminster village much a westminster village thing. much a westminster village thirbut look, i'm sad to say, >> but look, i'm sad to say, nigel, this is just this is the future happening the i've future happening now, the i've been that the chinese been made aware that the chinese were looking at my own, my own office, a couple of years ago. i mean, i can't remember, but i think i got a text saying, nice to meet you at conference. and i

thought, well, i wasn't at conference, but i didn't send any sort of, incriminating photos. >> really? >> really? >> oh, we're very pleased to hear that is westminster full of an of very sad, lonely an awful lot of very sad, lonely people , i sort of hope not, i people, i sort of hope not, i don't know, i mean, it's quite a sociable place at times, politics can be quite a lonely profession, and so can any profession. it depends . i mean, profession. it depends. i mean, i think there's a reasonable amount of camaraderie, and i think for nigel. sorry for william. there is a certain amount of there. but for the grace of god, i hope i would never be dumb enough to send incriminating pictures. sure. and i have a very strict rule of actually doing that. if you know relationship or not, because you never know where they're going to end up. >> but it's the phone numbers that matter now. angela rayner yeah, keir starmer today has yeah, sir keir starmer today has said looked at the said he hasn't looked at the evidence. because, said he hasn't looked at the evidknow, because, said he hasn't looked at the evidknow, been because, said he hasn't looked at the evidknow, been reliablyrse, you know, he's been reliably informed all okay. the mail informed it's all okay. the mail on sunday yesterday came up with a twist to the story. was a new twist to the story. it was tweets really tweets of herself in what really was as opposed to what was her home, as opposed to what she said was her home. the labour party are out in force,

their saying nothing their surrogates saying nothing to say you , i to see here. what say you, i think for me, if this is the problem, this has got ed davey and angela rayner. they're both the same. they are demanding resignations from other people. all the time. they're demanding the highest of standards. fair enough. yet they don't seem enough. and yet they don't seem to be applying it to themselves. and when you have david lammy, potentially foreign potentially the next foreign secretary going on tv yesterday saying is a difference saying there is a difference between government and a labour party, which may or may not be on the verge of government. you've got to think there is an extraordinary level of double standards here. and i think it just again, it makes a political classes look collectively bad that shouting at you, why that if i'm shouting at you, why aren't you perfect? then aren't you perfect? and then i find myself to have of clay. >> i mean, you know, the amount of capital gains tax is relatively small, and we know all things, but it does all those things, but it does appean all those things, but it does appear. actually, it to appear. actually, i put it to you, really. you know, just you, bob. really. you know, just in the last week, the last month, last year, the last month, the last year, the last certainly since 2019, actually, standards life, the standards in public life, the most members of the public would

say standards fallen. say those standards have fallen. >> really hope they're not. >> i really hope they're not. and actually getting and actually people getting caught out doing the wrong thing actually say could it actually could say could it could be that the system is working. i think there is a problem for i think there's a problem for i think there's a problem now in the labour party, because the labour party is saying the standards that we hold people to are not the hold other people to are not the standards that we're going to apply ourselves. apply to ourselves. >> major point now, >> bob ezedi, a major point now, a labour spokesman says angela and mutually decided and her husband mutually decided to existing to maintain their existing residences to reflect their family circumstances, and they shared childcare responsibilities. angela has always made clear she also spent time at her husband's property when they had children and got married. she was perfectly entitled to do so. gosh it must have been very confusing for those young children. but hey, now the what the farage moment is. zara salim. she was one of the women that organised the black lives matter march that went to the docks at bristol, that tore down the colston statue and put it into the dock, and she this wonderful black

lives matter organisation that everybody was saying how marvellous they are, apart from people like me who got sacked for telling the truth. she has embezzled. it now turns out up to £70,000 of money that was going to black lives matter. and while she has received a prison sentence, quite rightly, she's now been asked pay now been asked to pay compensation of £1. £1. you nick 70 grand and you're asked to repay a pound . they do say that repay a pound. they do say that there could be in future the ability to take money off her. if she makes some. but i've got to tell you, that sends out to me a very, very bad, very negative message. and by the way, it wasn't just happening here in america as well. those running black lives matter seem to finish up living in mansions. and it was never folks from a start. never, ever about racial equality. it was actually about fostering division for individual personal benefit . a

individual personal benefit. a dreadful, truly dreadful organisation . now, at a moment organisation. now, at a moment we're going to talk honour killings because there's been a 60% increase in honour killings. some are blaming the backlog in the courts . but some are blaming the backlog in the courts. but is some are blaming the backlog in the courts . but is the truth of the courts. but is the truth of it that we have an increasingly radicalised population here who think behaving like this in great britain in 2024 is somehow acceptable

? honour crimes have risen radically in this country. this is marriage, rape, death threats, assault . and in the threats, assault. and in the most extreme cases, of course, it is murder. two. this is a problem. well, i'd never heard of it until a few years ago, but it's a problem, particularly to do with those that live in our country and come from south asia. but the really alarming

thing is that data that's been studied from 26 out of 39 constabularies is telling us that year on year, there's been a 60% increase in in honour abuse. i've been sort of scratching my head and wondering why on earth would that be? would it be that certain sections of our community have become more radicalised, particularly since the 7th of october, that i thought perhaps was a viable explanation ? but was a viable explanation? but many are saying no. it is actually because the criminal justice system is clogged up , justice system is clogged up, and so far behind that actually, it's allowing people who should be brought to justice to go on perpetrating crimes. we'll have to be honest with you, i don't know the truth of this at all. let's speak to yasmin khan, director of the halo project, a charity that supports the victims of forced marriage and honour based violence. yasmin

good evening. welcome to the program. how big? how serious? you know, we know generally there are massive backlogs in there are massive backlogs in the criminal justice system . do the criminal justice system. do you really think that is having a major effect on this huge 60% increase in these offences ? i'm increase in these offences? i'm not hearing a. are we have a bit of problem there with yasmin's audio. we're going to retest and ihope audio. we're going to retest and i hope get it back very, very soon indeed . either way. either soon indeed. either way. either way, whether it is increased radicalisation , whether it is a radicalisation, whether it is a backlog in the criminal justice system is truly shocking. and, you know, it's a little bit like the story that we covered earlier on of the polling that was done by jl partners for the henry jackson society . ever henry jackson society. ever since tony blair came to power, surrounded by his friends alastair campbell and peter mandelson , they said they were

mandelson, they said they were going to change this country. they were going to rub the noses of the right in diversity. and yes, that's the word diversity, the encouragement of multiculturalism, state money being spent to encourage separate communities to exist in our cities . no one thinking that our cities. no one thinking that perhaps integration and some shared common values might be the kind of diversity that would work. i've never heard blair. i've never heard campbell, i've never heard mandelson apologise , never heard mandelson apologise, guys, for what their vision of diversity has led to. but you might have thought come 2010 and 14 years of conservative government that some of this would have changed. but no, the truth is actually they themselves have generally been terrified of these issues and the whole thing , frankly, has the whole thing, frankly, has just got worse and worse . i just got worse and worse. i think the british public actually are waking up to this in the most extraordinary way,

but i'm not sure that westminster is . there are some westminster is. there are some that are brave and stand up, but there are many now genuinely fearful. and after those appalling scenes that we saw in parliament square the day that mps were supposed to vote on that snp motion, i'm perhaps not surprised. i'm not going to get yasmin khan back, i don't think, which is all a bit sad. yasmin khan back, i don't think, which is all a bit sad . and i which is all a bit sad. and i could just sit her and chat to you for hours, but i've got jacob here with me. jacob, do you take my point that diversity. yeah different people, different backgrounds, different religions , different different religions, different ancestral links, but provided they're in the country and integrated and we have some shared common values , that form shared common values, that form of diversity can be rather jolly . oh, yeah. >> i agree with you entirely. i think that , the crucial thing is think that, the crucial thing is that once you've become a british citizen, you view yourself as being a british citizen, and everybody likewise views you as being a british citizen. >> and that winning of a

passport is fundamental and we are all equal under the law. what's happened with legislation is that it's changed it. it's shifted the balance. so some are more equal than others. and that was a very deliberate, as you rightly pointed out, blairite construct. it was very cleverly done, very politically powerful. and the conservatives have been very nervous about dealing with it because our history on it wasn't so good. and if you go back to the bar election in 1964, when the labour foreign minister had to stand again, and how did the conservatives run that? what was our slogan in that? what was our slogan in that election? a really disgraceful slogan that neither of us we better not repeat. >> and indeed , that's right. >> and indeed, that's right. >> and indeed, that's right. >> and indeed, that's right. >> and then enoch powell's speech. enoch powell's speech is worth reading because it contextualises why an immigrant community was suspicious of conservatism and then, of course, were actually effective about migration, or at least we were when margaret thatcher was around . and so you have a view

around. and so you have a view that the tories aren't keen on immigrants. and so when we start saying you must integrate , saying you must integrate, people think that's coming from a position of antagonism rather than of generosity, and we need to turn that around. so it's clear that it's from generosity rather than antagonism. i take that long tum historical point, and much as i, you know, thought powell was an astonishing figure. he was. but his 1968 speech is awful. figure. he was. but his 1968 spewell,i awful. figure. he was. but his 1968 spewell, itwful. figure. he was. but his 1968 spewell, it actually made it >> well, it actually made it more difficult to talk about this actually. right. that easy. and that was the fundamental problem with it. but in the course of the last 14 years, radicalisation has grown hugely. this particular report that i'm reading now about honour crimes has risen hugely the size. and i know this problem is south asian and not confined to one religion. but let's be frank, the size of the muslim population has now reached 4 million. it is projected to be over 10 million by 2050. i'm not so sure. the conservatives as

yet have lifted a finger to try and deal with this. no, no. >> and i think that's right. i think the history explains why we've been cautious. but the problem is now more serious and we are disadvantaging other we are now disadvantaging other british citizens , that some british citizens, that some british citizens, that some british have lesser rights british women have lesser rights because of the communities that they are in, they may be affected by different laws, even that they find that they are following. and if you look at the history of the development of our laws, we increasingly protect people and protect them under a single law, which we're all equal under. and instead we've allowed multicultural ism to recognise that other behaviours can be equally valid . behaviours can be equally valid. and that, i think, has been a mistake. >> this was the other debate we had tonight. linked to that last item was the henry jackson society poll. you know, if 46% of british muslims is either fully support or have strong sympathy with hamas, a proscribed terrorist organisation, we have a problem . organisation, we have a problem. >> this is really interesting because john locke, former

constituent , i'm proud to say constituent, i'm proud to say a long time ago, a long time ago , long time ago, a long time ago, but, from north—east somerset made the point that you accept as a matter of tolerance other people's religions. yeah, but that doesn't allow them to break your law . so if you have your law. so if you have a religion that believes in human sacrifice , human sacrifice is sacrifice, human sacrifice is breaking your law. so you don't allow the human sacrifice , but allow the human sacrifice, but they're entitled to believe that it's a good thing you don't challenge their belief, but you make obey the ordinary law . make them obey the ordinary law. and i think in modern society, we have conflated the idea of tolerance with what people believe. we're saying, well , if believe. we're saying, well, if you believe that, then you can go ahead and do whatever you like. that's the bit that's like. and that's the bit that's mistaken. and we to rebuild mistaken. and we need to rebuild the argument for saying the ordinary law must apply to everybody. ordinary law must apply to eveand dy. do do about this? >> and what do we do about this? you know, the police have watched these demos. hands off. now i see these polling numbers. i begin to understand why the scale of the problem is enormous. >> yes, but the scale of the

problem is enormous. if you don't do anything about it, you have to look at the most extreme cases, and have to and cases, and you have to try and deal with those. you can deal with those. and you can begin persuade people, but begin to persuade people, but also protecting people. you know, the issue you raise about honour killings if you are protecting women from this risk, you will find that they bring their children up in the next generation. to think that honour killings are not such a good idea, well , killings are not such a good idea, well, i'd hope that's right. >> and maybe the criminal justice system being clogged up is a part of problem. but is a part of this problem. but of that's price of course, that's the price of lockdown we're still lockdown that we're still paying, paying, isn't it? >> partly. and partly, >> well, partly. and partly, i think an awful lot of special pleading a criminal justice pleading in a criminal justice system idle that, system that's pretty idle that, you at the hours they you know, look at the hours they work, look at the holidays that they i'm not that they have. i'm not that sympathetic as ever. >> the master. if you work >> the slave master. if you work in the public services, jacob doesn't think you should work from home three days a week. by modern standards, he probably is a you're a slave. masterjacob, you're your no aukus. your shows are no aukus. >> well, there's very important intervention in the sun by wes streeting on the nhs. i think

this is so important. streeting on the nhs. i think this is so important . we can this is so important. we can talk about the nhs now on the right of politics, because wes streeting has given an essentially tory view of reform. so tory, the tories haven't dared say it. and i think that's really interesting, important. and he's becoming, i think, a really serious political figure. >> i quite rate him, i have to say, and he's a thinker. he's gone way outside the box with this because in every general election there's only 48. labour say we created it and he's referred to middle class lefties, which is the language you and i use. >> those who come from a labour mp front bench spokesman is really powerful. >> mean it or it >> does he mean it or is it triangulation, electoral manoeuvring? >> think means >> i think he means it. i genuinely he means genuinely believe he means eating , there you are. eating well, there you are. >> you heard it here first. jacob rees—mogg is a fan of some figures of the modern british labour party who do the right thing. he would be alex burkill. give us the weather. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers is sponsors of weather on gb news.

>> good evening. here's your latest gb news weather brought to you by the met office. most of us will see some heavy rain and some strong winds as we go through tomorrow in through tonight into tomorrow in association with a relatively deep of pressure. now, deep area of low pressure. now, this has been named by this feature has been named by meteor france because going meteor france because it's going to impactful weather to bring some impactful weather there. in the uk it's not so stormy, but nonetheless there'll be some strong winds, particularly coastal particularly around coastal parts, a spell of heavy parts, and also a spell of heavy rain feeding in across parts of northern england and across scotland as we through the scotland as we go through the early of tuesday. because early hours of tuesday. because of blustery, wet and cloudy of the blustery, wet and cloudy weather, temperatures for many of us aren't going to drop much. most places holding up the most places holding up in the mid to single figures, so a mid to high single figures, so a relatively start tomorrow relatively mild start tomorrow morning, quite cloudy and morning, but quite a cloudy and a wet one a windy start for a wet one and a windy start for most us. the heaviest rain most of us. the heaviest rain will be eastern parts of will be across eastern parts of scotland. could cause some problems, on the problems, particularly on the roads. some heavy rain for roads. also some heavy rain for northern england. all of northern england. but all of this gradually clear away this does gradually clear away towards northeast, with towards the northeast, with something drier following

something a bit drier following in also a scattering in behind, but also a scattering of . now temperatures of showers. now temperatures will be down several degrees compared highs of just compared to today. highs of just 13, perhaps even 14 celsius towards southeast . a chilly towards the southeast. a chilly but bright start for many of us on wednesday. however, the fine weather more wet weather doesn't last. more wet weather doesn't last. more wet weather to push way weather is going to push its way in the west, and we're in from the west, and we're going to see winds strengthening again rain could again and again. that rain could cause some problems, particularly southwest and particularly over southwest and parts the parts of scotland. at the moment, looks like a moment, thursday looks like a dner moment, thursday looks like a drier for many of and drier day for many of us, and that drier theme looks like it will into friday across will continue into friday across the before rain the south before more rain arrives further north. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar , sponsors of weather on

gb news. >> hello. good evening. it's me, jacob rees—mogg on state of the nation. tonight, the labour party has abandoned its age old criticism of the tory party on using the private sector to

assist the national health service , as wes streeting has service, as wes streeting has declared, it needs major surgery and castigated the middle class lefties for crying betrayal . lefties for crying betrayal. tonight i'll be thanking mr streeting for opening up the conversation , known as the conversation, known as the metropolitan police launches an investigation into the westminster honeytrap scandal. tonight i'll be breaking my silence on the affair and asking my panel if the vice chairman of the 1922 committee, william wragg, should resign , a new wragg, should resign, a new report has claimed the foreign office needs to rebrand itself and face its colonial legacy head on, with superannuated diplomats calling for the removal of portraits of former leaders . plus, as the public leaders. plus, as the public sector fraud authority, an institution i set up against considerable resistance from the treasury, revealed that billions of pounds of your money was lost to covid fraud . i will be asking to covid fraud. i will be asking my predecessor, who resigned over the matter , how this over the matter, how this failure of the state occurred. state of the nation starts now