made a standalone will now be made a standalone criminal offence, as well as banning offenders from certain shops. >> but is the government admitting they've lost control of our high streets? >> and next there's a damning report into nhs trans treatment for children and it finds remarkably weak evidence for prescribing puberty blockers to children who are being let down by a toxic debate around gender and the eu asylum pact. it's today a huge crunch vote nine years in the making, as the european union votes on an agreement to share the burden of accepting refugees, but could rogue meps sink the plan that is going to be one to watch. >> we'll be live for that. and the bulgarian benefit fraud gang, fleeced the gang, which has fleeced the taxpayers of more than £54 million. well, it's said to be the uk's biggest ever benefits fraud . but is that just the tip fraud. but is that just the tip of a £9 billion a year black

hole that's all coming in your next hour ? next hour? >> of the show. >> of the show. >> it's always a pleasure to have your company. with just about an hour away now from an historic vote in the european union, it's bedlam in brussels. it's basically this the political right want tougher rules on how to get asylum seekers deported if they arrive in the european bloc illegally. they also want that to go down to 12 weeks. but the political left want to share the asylum seekers across the bloc. that's going down very badly with some member states like italy and greece. they think they are taking way too many. >> but poland is saying, well, we've got enough. we don't want any more . any more. >> emmanuel macron frantically ringing around trying to get members to abstain on this vote. >> this is going to be a huge

moment, because if this doesn't get through, it will allow meps standing in the european elections in june to say the eu does not care about immigration. >> it could tear the entire bloc apart and will be live from brussels for this historic crunch vote. >> and we'll be speaking to political commentators from france and italy. >> get in touch on that. >> get in touch on that. >> would you like to see the back of brussels, the collapse of eu? let me know. and of the eu? let me know. and there's a new way to get in touch with us. >> now. >> now. >> send your views and post your comments by visiting gb news. >> slash say comments by visiting gb news. >> in slash say comments by visiting gb news. >> in touch. slash say get in touch. >> please be shy before >> please don't be shy before that, it's time for your latest news with sophia news headlines with sophia wenzler . wenzler. >> thanks, martin. good afternoon. it's 3:03. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom . your wenzler in the gb newsroom. your top story this hour. the pillars of gender medicine are built on shaky foundations and a lack of evidence on the impacts of puberty blockers and hormone

treatments . the cass review says treatments. the cass review says children are being let down by remarkably weak evidence, and calls for gender services for young people to match the standards of other nhs care. it says the toxicity of the debate around gender meant professionals were afraid to openly discuss their views. prime minister rishi sunak says children's wellbeing is the government's priority . government's priority. >> of course we must treat children who are questioning their gender with compassion and sensitivity, but we have to recognise that we need to move with extreme caution in these areas because we just simply don't know the long tum impacts of what this all means, and children's wellbeing is uppermost in our mind, and that's why we've acted on the interim findings previously. whether that's the nhs banning the use of puberty the routine use of puberty blockers or indeed the guidance that we gave to schools about how to treat these issues , how to treat these issues, assaulting a shop worker will be made a separate criminal offence in a government u—turn in response to a surge of retail crime. >> it's after a report found

violent and abusive incidents against shop workers rose by 50% in 2022 to 2023. the government previously said it did not think a law change was required. shadow home secretary yvette cooper says unlike the conservatives labour are taking the steps to improve britain's high streets . high streets. >> but the conservatives have finally done a u—turn and agreed to labour's plan for a new offence of assault against shop workers. but we've been calling for stronger action against violence on shop workers for ten years now, and they have resisted at every stage . even resisted at every stage. even now, it's still a pale imitation of our plans because they're not putting the neighbourhood police back on the streets to actually help take the action and do the work that we need . labour's plan work that we need. labour's plan would be 13,000 more neighbourhood police and pcsos in our town centres , high in our town centres, high streets and neighbourhoods across the country . across the country. >> in other news, five members of a bulgarian organised crime group have been convicted of

falsely claiming over £50 million in universal credit in the uk's biggest ever benefit fraud over a four and a half year period. the gang made thousands of false claims for universal credit, using either real people or hijacked identities. the investigation identified three benefit factories in london where repeated false claims for benefits were supported by forged documents . if the claims forged documents. if the claims were rejected, the fraudsters would try again and again until they were granted. the defendants will appear for sentencing in may. a father has been jailed for life with a minimum tum of 22 years for murdering his baby son. four week old ollie davis was pronounced dead after being found lifeless in his cot in october 2017, having sustained a number of serious injuries , number of serious injuries, including multiple broken bones. his 29 year old father, michael davis, was found guilty at leicester crown court of murder and two counts of causing grievous bodily harm. ollie's mother , kayleigh driver, was mother, kayleigh driver, was

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to. martin. >> thank you sofia. now we've got to turn to get stuck into. so let's get cracking. and starting with this, assaulting shop workers will be made into a standalone criminal offence following pressures from campaigners and ministers have previously ruled out calls to create a new offence, claiming that it would not be effective. >> while the new offence will carry a maximum sentence of six months in prison . months in prison. >> and prime minister rishi sunak hopes this new action will crack down on retail crime and protect uk's high streets. but labour are claiming that it's a poor imitation of their new five point plan for the high street. >> well, they would say that, wouldn't they? >> well, i'm joined in the studio now conservative party studio now by conservative party deputy . deputy chairman matt vickers. matt, welcome to the show. so many of us see with our own eyes, you know, the decline in standards between customers and shop workers, treating them with disdain, walking out feels like

shoplifting is basically de facto being decriminalised . facto being decriminalised. >> is bedlam in the shops and the poor workers are bearing the brunt. >> this is long overdue. >> this is long overdue. >> yeah, it very much is. >> yeah, it very much is. >> so when you look at what's going on since 2010, violent crime is down 51, neighbourhood crime is down 51, neighbourhood crime down 48. >> retail crime is going the >> but retail crime is going the opposite way. there were a 1300 assaults on retail workers . not assaults on retail workers. not every month, not every week, every month, not every week, every single day. last year , every single day. last year, 1300 assaults. and these people are the key. >> workers are the people who keep our shops going. >> you know, it might be the student with their first job. >> be semi—retired >> it might be a semi—retired person topping income person topping up their income to nice holiday. to have a nice holiday. >> they're day and >> and they're in there day and night doing bit, they night doing their bit, and they just go to work just deserve to go to work without this. without all of this. >> the problem with this, though, oftentimes if though, is that oftentimes if shop phoned though, is that oftentimes if sho old phoned though, is that oftentimes if sho old bill, phoned though, is that oftentimes if sho old bill, they phoned though, is that oftentimes if sho old bill, they don't phoned the old bill, they don't even bother up . the co—op bother to show up. the co—op showed last year it was like showed us last year it was like 80% of reported shoplifting crime didn't even get a return phone call, let alone somebody

in attendance. so how will this work operationally? because i mean, you don't see coppers on the high streets anymore. >> so that is exactly why it's a standalone offence. >> so my view is that, you know, people why? people are saying no, why? >> what >> why retail workers? what about get about other people who get assaulted? well with retail workers, government dictates statutory . so if you work statutory duties. so if you work in a shop and you sell something to somebody who's underage , to somebody who's underage, whether that a knife, whether whether that be a knife, whether it have committed it be booze, you have committed an and are an offence and you are responsible. my that responsible. so my idea is that if you've statutory duty if you've got a statutory duty imposed, then government imposed, then the government needs to give statutory protection and by making it a standalone offence, we'll be able which parts of the able to see which parts of the country police are most country the police are most affected they're affected and which parts they're not, if these this not, because if these if this specific the moment, specific event at the moment, the can measure is the only way we can measure is through surveying people who work will mean work in retail, this will mean this is what was called in and what was done about it. and we can police crime can hold police and crime commissioners and chief constables to account for what they aren't in they are and aren't doing in response to retail crime. >> but how going to be enforced? >> people walking >> i mean, i see people walking out the time with out of shops all the time with stuff the stuff up their coats and the beep the security beep goes off and the security guards thinking, i guards thinking, well, if i chase get stabbed.

chase them, i might get stabbed. >> let them go. chase them, i might get stabbed. >> and let them go. chase them, i might get stabbed. >> and that'st them go. chase them, i might get stabbed. >> and that's partm go. chase them, i might get stabbed. >> and that's part of go. chase them, i might get stabbed. >> and that's part ofgo. of chase them, i might get stabbed. >> and that's part of go. of the >> and that's part of the of the disease this, isn't it, this disease of this, isn't it, this sort thing. well, it's not sort of thing. well, it's not worth time. worth worth my time. it's not worth the get the danger, they don't get charged if less charged anyway. if it's less than £200. and they're than £200. and so they're emboldened. so who's emboldened. so. so who's actually to feel the cost? actually going to feel the cost? >> a slight misconception. >> £200. so >> the thing around £200. so there's prevent the there's nothing to prevent the police, charging police, arresting and charging somebody and taking them through a magistrate a police based, magistrate court. but actually, so , so the court. but actually, so, so the £200 thing is a bit misdemeanour, but in real terms , misdemeanour, but in real terms, actually, it's about drawing that accountability. so if you are committing convicted of this offence, if you are convicted several times , well, you'll get several times, well, you'll get given a more or less automatically be given a criminal behaviour order which will ban you from that store, and, you know, if you then disobey that, it's a five year sentence. so all of a sudden we ratchet up the offences coupled with we've talked about with the tax. we've talked about gps so if you assault a gps tagging. so if you assault a retail worker three times or you're shoplifting you're caught shoplifting three times, you will end up with a gps tag that tells where you gps tag that tells us where you are. you've entered that are. and if you've entered that

shopping and broke that shopping area and broke that rule, and then we're going to make use of, facial recognition technology will tell you if technology that will tell you if one of these people is hanging around in the high street who shouldn't be. so throwing everything we've got 200 everything at it. we've got 200 more going to hold more police. we're going to hold police to for police leadership to account for what doing on this what they are doing on this issue. because you know what? that old lady works that little old lady who works in young student in my shop or that young student deserves looked after deserves to be looked after properly, going properly, and we're going to break well, break this. okay. well, here's what rishi sunak break this. okay. well, here's wha to rishi sunak break this. okay. well, here's wha to say rishi sunak break this. okay. well, here's wha to say to rishi sunak break this. okay. well, here's wha to say to us rishi sunak break this. okay. well, here's wha to say to us earlierhi sunak break this. okay. well, here's wha to say to us earlier on'>unak break this. okay. well, here's wha to say to us earlier on this( had to say to us earlier on this week announce a strong set of measures to clamp down on retail crime. >> that's about a new offence , a >> that's about a new offence, a brand new offence for assaulting shop workers using facial recognition technology to catch perpetrators with cctv , but also perpetrators with cctv, but also greater use of electronic tagging of prolific shoplifters . tagging of prolific shoplifters. it's been warmly welcomed by retailers and police. i've spoken to today and, crucially, will demonstrate to our shop workers that we've got their back, and also that we will do what it takes to keep our streets our communities streets and our communities safe. what everybody safe. that's what everybody wants. deliver. >> prisons e prisons are deliver. >> prisons are full. >> but the prisons are full. >> but the prisons are full. >> in the of >> we're in the midst of

building biggest building, building the biggest building, building the biggest building, building in many decades, in programme in many decades, in fact, actually thousands and thousands of new places. we're also increasing sentencing for the most violent criminals, ending automatic halfway ending the automatic halfway release point, because those are the to do, because release point, because those are the most to do, because release point, because those are the most violent:o do, because release point, because those are the most violent offendersause the most violent offenders should sent to jail for should be sent to jail for longer. that's what we're delivering the all delivering by the way, all opposed labour party. delivering by the way, all oppos we labour party. delivering by the way, all opposwe pass labour party. delivering by the way, all oppos we pass those ur party. delivering by the way, all opposwe pass those lawsrty. delivering by the way, all opposwe pass those laws .y. when we pass those laws. >> okay. and joined now by >> okay. and i'm joined now by tv editor tv news, political editor christopher hope, who was in horsham on this story earlier. chris, you spoke to me earlier. you told me about a novel solution they have on the ground there. what's going on? >> luttrell. hi, martin, and to great see you in the viewers and listeners. well, here we are on horsham high street, middle england, you might think what you be surprised to learn is you may be surprised to learn is that around here there's a very high number of crimes reported for shoplifting. that's for shoplifting. and that's because the police have got a new idea here, it's like an almost an open whatsapp almost like an open whatsapp channel. shopkeepers can channel. so, shopkeepers can report any crimes or any suspicions of crimes to the

police. they come and attend straight away, almost before the crimes have been committed. it's an being hard the an idea being pushed hard by the local police , the pm earlier, local police, the pm earlier, rishi sunak, he was here looking at it and it is working. but it doesn't mean this area has a very high, shoplifting figure. but that's they but that's because they are reporting everything. and i think it might actually i mean, it's been going for one year so far, they're looking maybe at running out more nationally, but i think here locally, shopkeepers feel protected. they feel looked after. they feel the police are working for them. and that's working . that's working. >> it seems like a great idea, obviously it would give them a spike in retail crime, which no police force wants on its copybook. police force wants on its copybook . but on the other hand, copybook. but on the other hand, if they're forcing the issue out into the open, as it were, they're chasing the rabbits out into open. the police into the open. then the police will no doubt have to respond. and be used a and that could be used as a direct to central direct plea to central government for policing government for more policing resource . resource. >> well, that's right. it's saying that, you know , let's not saying that, you know, let's not tolerate low level shoplifting. we saw it , of course, in, in,

tolerate low level shoplifting. we saw it, of course, in, in, in the, in the cost of living crisis recently. and people feel they need to get the basics or more. and there has seen an increase in thefts. so clearly it's an issue which the government is trying to get across. you heard earlier there from the pm rishi sunak. he's announcing plans today, to make sure that if you do assault a shoplifter, you will go to prison, or at least you'll be sentenced to jail for up to six months. because as you and i know, martin, the policy from this government to jail this government is not to jail anyone for than a year. and anyone for less than a year. and that bill is still that sensing bill is still on the in street . so the books in downing street. so the books in downing street. so the intention to be tougher the intention is to be tougher on of people, on on shoplifters of people, on people. forgive me, who assault shop workers . whether that shop workers. whether that happens, wait and see. happens, we'll wait and see. >> okay. chris and i believe earlier on as well, prime minister rishi sunak spoke on rwanda . rwanda. >> that's right. now next week is a big week for the government. we know on monday, mps will try and reverse the seven different amendments to

the rwanda bill, the safety of rwanda bill, to allow those flights to take off and to act as a deterrent for the small boat, people traffickers from from france. monday is the big day , tuesday, probably back in day, tuesday, probably back in the lords to as the laws try and continue to weaken the legislation. back on wednesday and the working assumption from the government is on thursday next week, the safety of rwanda bill becomes law, and after that it's over to the courts. let us go out to people who are here, arrived here legally by small boats saying, you will be boats and saying, you will be flown back rwanda, you flown back to rwanda, where you may there and may have to stay there and deported. there the lawyers will get involved. a whole new battle will take place. the and the will take place. and the and the credibility this will take place. and the and the cre(willty this will take place. and the and the cre(will be this will take place. and the and the cre(will be tested this will take place. and the and the cre(will be tested in this will take place. and the and the cre(will be tested in ouris act will be tested in our courts. and we heard earlier from the pm rishi sunak, he made clear he wants these flights to take off. >> i'm committed to stopping the boats. we need to have a deterrent so that if people come here they can't here illegally, they can't stay. they'll that's why they'll be removed. that's why rwanda is so important. that's why i'm determined see why i'm determined to see it through. first of all, need

through. first of all, we need to it through parliament, to get it through parliament, where has been where the labour party has been blocking time. blocking it for a long time. once running, i'm once it's up and running, i'm confident to confident we'll be able to operationalise get operationalise the scheme, get people because people on flights, because that's how we'll set up a deterrent ultimately end the deterrent and ultimately end the unfairness jumping the unfairness of people jumping the queue, coming here illegally, putting local putting pressure on local services risking their own services and risking their own lives. none of that's right. none of it's fair and none of it's compassionate either, do it's compassionate either, to do nothing. and our plan is the right nothing. and our plan is the rigithat's the pm there saying, >> that's the pm there saying, it's not fair that you can arrive here illegally and get access to public services that everyone else pays for, making very clear it's a priority for him. won't give us a date him. he won't give us a date yet. martin that beer is still safe. we know he'll try and get these off in the these flights taking off in the spring. feels spring, spring. it feels like spring, even leafy , leafy horsham. it even in leafy, leafy horsham. it feels like the but no feels like the spring, but no date yet for the prime minister for those first flights taking off. yeah >> just to remind viewers and listeners what we're talking about christopher hope about there, christopher hope batus a solitary batus rishi sunak a solitary single of beer that we single pint of beer that we wouldn't have anybody taking off for rwanda . and, chris, i think

for rwanda. and, chris, i think your beer is safe. listen, you've been a busy bee as ever. we'll come back to you later in the show. thank you very much, chris. hope horsham. chris. hope in horsham. now, let's studio let's come back to the studio for reaction from for some reaction there from matt of matt vickers, deputy chair of the rwanda the conservative party rwanda round and round we go. groundhog day with echoes of brexit. will finally this bill get over the line? >> well i'm very much hoping so. >> well i'm very much hoping so. >> i know we've got a busy week on it. next week when we come back wednesday, back on monday and wednesday, there'll that into there'll be votes on that into there'll be votes on that into the sure, and we'll the night, i'm sure, and we'll be till it's do be going till till it's done. do you know seen with you know what we've seen with albania? where you have a albania? that where you have a deterrent that albania? that where you have a dethey nt that albania? that where you have a dethey arrive that albania? that where you have a dethey arrive in that albania? that where you have a dethey arrive in this that albania? that where you have a dethey arrive in this country, that if they arrive in this country, they back, are they are going back, they are going elsewhere , they going elsewhere, they stop arriving number arriving in albania, the number of across is down of people coming across is down 96. if we can get these flights off, work . it will deter off, it will work. it will deter people. people will this people. people will know this is not option. not not an option. britain is not the soft touch. rwanda said the soft touch. but rwanda said today their national today that their national airline take passengers, airline won't take passengers, commercial airlines have said they won't because of the reputational damage the armed forces are reluctant to get involved. >> how are they going to be

flown there or are they going to flap their arms? >> i think what we'll see next week is we'll see the scrap of the of the scrap the house of lords, the scrap with labour party, who with with the labour party, who voted constantly against everything we've ever done to toughen everything we've ever done to tougherin country. and then system in this country. and then there aware sunak there will be aware rishi sunak we'll find a way to those we'll find a way to get those flights off, because knows flights off, because he knows it's and it's what britain wants, and it's what britain wants, and it's if we it's what he's got to do if we want get re—elected. okay. want to get re—elected. okay. >> thanks for >> matt vickers, thanks for joining us. >> w- joining us. >> optimism. thank joining us. >> very optimism. thank joining us. >> very > very > very > variety cruises have been sailing since 1942, and thanks to them, you could set sail in 2025. you have the chance to win

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welcome back. it's 324. i'm martin daubney, and this is gb news. now, a damning report into how children struggling with their gender identity have been treated. says the has let treated. says the nhs has let them down. the historic cas report's recommends holistic and personal care for children over hormone treatments and puberty blockers. the prime minister has said that the findings show a need for extreme caution regarding children's gender care. >> of course, we must treat children who are questioning their gender with compassion and

sensitivity, but we have to recognise that we need to move with extreme caution in these areas because we just simply don't know the long term impacts of what this all means, and children's wellbeing is uppermost in our mind . uppermost in our mind. >> well, that was the prime minister earlier and i'm now joined by gb news reporter ray addison this is an historic addison rae. this is an historic report, a big breakthrough. what's it recommending ? what's it recommending? >> 32 recommendations in total. martin and you mentioned it there. that word holistic. doctor cass very keen to stress to nhs england that young people who are being referred for these services need to be considered for other types of screening. so mental health assessments and checks for conditions such as autism as well, before they even start going down, any kind of change or reassignment of their genden change or reassignment of their gender. also, she's urging for extreme caution before prescribing hormones for children . she says there needs

children. she says there needs to be a really clear rationale for their prescription to anyone who is under the age of 18, and there should be a separate pathway for of care, she says. for anyone who is yet to hit puberty . and finally, full puberty. and finally, full research into the outcomes of young people who've had this kind of treatment and full research for young people moving forward as for anyone forward as well. for anyone who's having this treatment to see what happens them the see what happens to them in the future, whether it works, whether fails, and what their whether it fails, and what their thoughts on it, so that they can better use that information to treat people in the future. >> ray, how quickly do you >> and, ray, how quickly do you think the report's findings will actually become nhs policy? how soon will it be enacted? >> well, there's no indication really, that all of these findings are going to be implemented. i've been speaking to nhs england's press office today. to nhs england's press office today . they, as i said, 32 today. they, as i said, 32 recommendations. but no commitment at this stage to implement all 32. they say they're going to review them and then they're going to move

forward . i mean, a lot of things forward. i mean, a lot of things have changed over the last few years already based upon, you know, interim reports and recommendations so far. however, there simply isn't a time scale and any kind of idea whether all 32 will be implemented. and a lot of people will feel very critical of that. >> okay. thank you very much for joining us, ray . and now joining joining us, ray. and now joining me, join me in the studio. sorry, joined now by sorry, i'm joined now by transgender teacher and journalist hayton. journalist debbie hayton. debbie, it's always a pleasure to have you on the show . so the to have you on the show. so the prime minister, rishi sunak, earlier on said he welcomes doctor cassar's expert review . doctor cassar's expert review. he said the wellbeing and the health of children must come first. it's being heralded as a breakthrough by many people who've been asking for a more critical, analytical and logical approach. but of course it's being treated with much trepidation by those in the trans community. what's your take? >> well, i welcome this report .

>> well, i welcome this report. >> well, i welcome this report. >> we've needed it for a long time. >> this is an impartial report written by written by a clinician who has no part in the political debate that's been going on. what she who she cares aboutis going on. what she who she cares about is children. children at the centre of this report. and that's right . that's right. >> and there are a great number of children still waiting in the system for treatment. about 15,000. and what happens to them now ? now? >> well, local, local nhs, mental health services need to step up and take and help those children. one of the one of the issues which have been seeing is children just being lost in waiting lists, endless waiting lists, waiting for this magic treatment that will perhaps solve all their problems , or so solve all their problems, or so they've been led to believe, it's no help to children as that, my concern is that where where have those children perhaps been going for help? private providers have been stepping into this and providing and providing treatment. and what is worrying is that the

cass review doesn't apply to private providers. they can carry on prescribing hormone blockers, cross—sex hormones to under 18 seconds, irrespective of what doctor kasser said here, that's a concern that the government needs to look into. >> and what do think should >> and what do you think should be private be done about private practitioners who ostensibly then outside of then would be going outside of nhs recommendations? >> well, i think need to look >> well, i think we need to look at legislation children need protecting if it's to illegal sell a package of cigarettes to a 16 year old, why should we be supplying 16 year olds with drugs which will have permanent and possibly life changing impact on their developing bodies, how did we get here? i think we're in a situation that, we're trying to extract ourselves from, but we should never have been here in the first place, we should have been listening to, impartial clinicians and not political activists ten years ago. >> and, debbie, one of the key findings of the cass report is that trans , identifying patients

that trans, identifying patients are more likely to experience trauma or neglect and abuse or more likely to be on the autistic spectrum. >> is that helpful from an analytical diagnostic point of view? or may it further stigmatise these patients? >> well, this is this is what hilary cass has found out. these are these are facts. these are statistics. and it does nobody any help at all to deny the truth, what we should be asking is, why does this seem to be an overlap, perhaps, between autism and transgender identification in young people? that's the scientific curiosity that the medical profession should have been engaged in, not, sweeping it under the carpet and applying a sticker , a one size fits all a sticker, a one size fits all sticker of gender identity and gender dysphoria on these children who may have had , children who may have had, multiple and complex needs that they're they're dealing with. >> thank you very much. debbie hayton, transgender teacher and journalist and always welcome on

the show with your forthright opinions. thank you very much. now, there's more still to now, there's lots more still to come between now and 4:00. and we can see live pictures on your screen now of the european parliament debating that crucial bill, a place i was familiar with when i was an mep . i almost with when i was an mep. i almost wish i was there today creating mayhem because mps are debating the critical european migration and asylum pact. will that bill make it through the parliament, or will the european union reverse bolt with an historic upset? could that even endanger the future of the eu bloc? all eyes on brussels and we'll be live from there for that vote in around about half an hour's time. but first, it's your latest news headlines and it's sophia wenzler. >> thanks, martin. it's 331. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom. your headlines . the newsroom. your headlines. the pillars of gender medicine are built on shaky foundations and

lack evidence on the impacts of puberty blockers and hormone treatments. the cass review says children are being let down by remarkably weak evidence, and calls for gender services for young people to match the standards of other nhs care . it standards of other nhs care. it says the toxicity of the debate around gender meant professionals were afraid to openly discuss their views. prior minister rishi sunak says children's wellbeing is government's priority. >> of course we must treat children who are questioning their gender with compassion and sensitivity, but we have to recognise that we need to move with extreme caution in these areas because we just simply don't know the long time impacts of what this all means , and of what this all means, and children's wellbeing is uppermost in our mind, and that's why we've acted on the interim findings previously. whether that's the nhs banning the routine use of puberty blockers or indeed the guidance that we gave to schools about how to treat these issues , how to treat these issues, assaulting a shop worker will be made a separate criminal offence in a government u—turn in

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amount of illegals, such as greece and italy, saying enough is enough. they want them to be dispersed through out the member state blocks. but as you can imagine, a few of them on especially happy about that. the polish, example, saying why polish, for example, saying why should we take migrants? when our voted against this our meps voted against this policy? detention for six months returns within 12 weeks on the table the left. the liberals think it's too hardline . they're think it's too hardline. they're going to vote against it. emmanuel macron frantically ringing around trying to shore up votes. this vote could drive a huge wedge into the european union and will be live across this throughout the show . but this throughout the show. but before that, there's a new way to get in touch with us here at gb news. and here's bev turner with all the details . with all the details. >> we are proud to be gb news the people's channel. and as you know, we always love to hear your views . now there's know, we always love to hear your views. now there's a know, we always love to hear your views . now there's a new your views. now there's a new way of getting in touch with us at gbnews.com forward. slash your by commenting can your say by commenting you can

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i >> welcome back. it's 338. i'm martin daubney, and this is gb news. now, meps are voting today. in fact, in about an hours today. in fact, in about an hour's time on a series of laws that will form a new migration pact. the migration and asylum pact. the migration and asylum pact aims to overhaul the eu's legislation and border rules, which could redefine the future of the eu's borders. well joining me now to discuss this is italian political commentator paolo diana and charles henry galois, leader of france's generation frexit. so we've got the italian and the french perspective. let's start with you if we could, paolo, diana, because this has been driven by

giorgia meloni, the italian premier, who is in favour of this, because she feels that italy is simply doing more than its fair share. of course, because the numbers of illegals arriving in your country are absolutely astronomical now. >> absolutely. thank you martin. >> absolutely. thank you martin. >> i'm in favour as well. we all know that we don't have any migration law so far, in the eu. so this is the first step towards a political solution of this huge problem that is illegal immigration. and we all know that giving money to countries that surround, europe , countries that surround, europe, particularly in those countries that face a mediterranean sea like algeria, tunisia and also egypt' like algeria, tunisia and also egypt, it's a pragmatic, good way to start solving the problem, particularly of people smugglers, because we know it's like a mafia, gaining money from this poor , desperate people this poor, desperate people dying trying to reach europe ,

dying trying to reach europe, they're not perfect countries. eventually, in the thinking about democracy. but this is not our fault . and this is what our fault. and this is what europe, anyway, is doing with the turkey. because in 2016, we know that, there was an agreement with turkey to stop illegal migrant s. so i think overall it's a very good, pointing start. and i hope it will vote. >> okay, now let's turn to charles henri galois, leader of france's generation frexit , france's generation frexit, what's the situation in france there, charles henri? because i understand that emmanuel macron frantically phoning his old friend donald tusk , trying to friend donald tusk, trying to get polish meps to abstain . get polish meps to abstain. >> i mean, all the parties in french are against this pact, except, emmanuel macron party, because this pact is a total disaster. if you look at it. i mean , the european unions are mean, the european unions are not trying to fight against

illegal immigration, but they are trying to allocate illegal immigrants within the countries. and it's a total, it's a total disaster. when you look at the figures, i mean, if you refuse to relocate these migrants to your country, for example, it's, ,20,000 per migrant. and for french, it will be something like billion. fine. if we like ,2 billion. fine. if we don't want do it. so it's don't want to do it. so it's totally, anti democratic scheme. and if you look at it, i mean the eu, they are not trying to stop illegal immigration. frontex. the border agencies are more like , taxi for migrants more like, taxi for migrants that agents that try to stop immigration. i'm quite surprised. but not that much surprised. but not that much surprised by italy's position because it's true that italy is suffering from illegal immigration. but the true solution would be to fight against illegal immigration, which the eu is not doing it. and i'm quite surprised giorgia meloni , that campaign against

meloni, that campaign against immigration now want to host, 400,000 migrants per year and she is doing like a friend with ursula von der leyen . so as a ursula von der leyen. so as a french, it's a very bad, pact. and of course, if i had a vote in this parliament, i will vote against this migrant pact. >> and how do you respond to that, paolo? diana, you know, we heard charles—henri there saying he's is in he's surprised italy is in favour because this doesn't stop the boats. it merely relocates and disperses. those arriving into the eu bloc. >> well, first of all, it's a starting point . it's not the starting point. it's not the solution to everything. we all want to stop the boats and striking deals with a jury in tunisia and egypt will help stopping the boats. so the things are connected . and also things are connected. and also there's no surprise because if you believe in europe , you think you believe in europe, you think that it's the right thing to do to divide and allocate these illegal migrants through all the

countries. right? if you don't believe in europe, then there's no need. but so italy shouldn't be, forced to keep all these illegal migrants because of european laws and because eventually all these charitable owing boats, all with a german , owing boats, all with a german, flagship, they're taking on board all the illegal migrants in the mediterranean sea. and then they're not taking them to germany. surprisingly, they're taking them to italy. and italy has has to keep them . so we has has to keep them. so we shouldn't be surprised of only one thing. we should see the bigger picture. >> okay. and charles—henri , it's >> okay. and charles—henri, it's worth pointing out that a lot of these socialists , those on the these socialists, those on the liberal left, they're also against this plan because they think it's too extreme, because it gives powers of detention for up to six months, returns within 12 weeks. and with all of this added together, charles—henri, do you think this votes will struggle to get through today? do you think this votes will strugifle to get through today? do you think this votes will

strugif so,o get through today? do you think this votes will strugif so, couldthrough today? do you think this votes will strugif so, could this|gh today? do you think this votes will strugif so, could this be today? and if so, could this be calamity the european union ? calamity for the european union? >> i hope the vote won't pass, but it's true that the right and the left are voting sometimes against for different reasons. i don't think this this text is tough against illegal immigration. i think on the contrary, it will foster illegal immigration because most of the illegal migrants, they don't want to stay in italy or they don't want to stay in spain, but they want to go in germany . they they want to go in germany. they want to go in france, and then maybe want to go to the uk. maybe they want to go to the uk. so, i mean, sometimes , you know, so, i mean, sometimes, you know, some are criticising brexit, but i think you're very lucky to be out or not to suffer such a kind of, of text. and, and i mean, even when they say about brexit, they say about economic difficulties. but when you look at the big picture , it's at the big picture, it's a global economic crisis in europe. and the, the figures are not worse in the uk than in the eurozone, for example. so you should you should single to be

out and to be able to, to do your own choices and not, to suffer from european storm cards that are imposed to you. basically, you're back to a democratic country, and i hope that france will be, the same soon in order not to suffer this kind of, pact, which is awful . kind of, pact, which is awful. >> okay. thank you very much. we have to leave it there. and that's paolo. diana, with the perspective from italy and charles—henri , the charles—henri gaulois, the perspective from france. and all eyes for that vote eyes on brussels for that vote will, of course, have that throughout the show. now coming up as five members of a bulgarian organised crime group have been convicted of uk's have been convicted of the uk's biggest fraud . is biggest ever benefit fraud. is the entire system a fraudulent farce ? i martin daubney on gb farce? i martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel

welcome back. it's 349. i'm martin daubney , and this is gb martin daubney, and this is gb news. now, a father has been jailed for life with the minimum terms of 22 years for murdering his four week old baby, odie davis was pronounced dead after being found lifeless in his cot in october 2017. well, joining me now to update us is our east midlands reporter, will hollis will welcome to the show a harrowing case. give us the details . details. >> yes. well this ultimately concludes a six year investigation for leicestershire police. >> ollie davis died the >> today, mr justice cotter, the judge who was sentencing at loughborough magistrates court, described a devastating fatal spinal spinal injury which

ultimately caused the death of the four week old baby inflicted just eight days before his death. now michael davis was found guilty of murder last month at leicester crown court. but there was a sentencing was here because of mobility issues for the defendants, while michael was found guilty of murder, his partner kaylee dhven murder, his partner kaylee driver, was found not guilty of murder but guilty of causing or allowing the death of the child. she was sentenced to seven years in prison and in reading a couple of the quotes that were said today in the sentencing, the judge told her you must have heard ollie's cries after he was assaulted as you were together in the bedroom . this must have in the bedroom. this must have woken you up. >> and speaking to michael davis, he was told you shown you've shown callous indifference by opting not to summon medical help. >> the judge described how he was sure that it was michael davis that inflicted these

injuries during violent episodes at their home in 2017, in nearby leicester. now, as i say, this is the end of a long six year invested investigation. the detective inspector mark parish said at the heart of this complex investigation has always been to get justice for ollie . been to get justice for ollie. >> okay, thank you very much for that update, though. will hollis a harrowing story, but today justice has been served. thank you very much for joining us. now, a bulgarian organised crime gang fleeced taxpayers out of over £50 million in what's been called britain's biggest ever benefit fraud . and we'll hope to benefit fraud. and we'll hope to benefit fraud. and we'll hope to be joined by a guest on this soon. but the fact of the matter is, is this just the tip of the iceberg? how on earth can £54 million worth of benefits be fleeced from the taxpayers for so long, without anybody at the benefits office even knowing a

single thing about it? and more to the point, how big an issue is benefits fraud? the fact the numbers are absolutely eye—watering. an estimated £8.4 billion in overpaid benefits, fraud in 2022, £83 million went out during covid and they were huge fraud and errors nearly double the previous year's totals . 7.5% of all benefits totals. 7.5% of all benefits were fraudulent in that year. now, when you pay your tax, we've just gone through the end of tax year. do you have of the tax year. do you have a click on that thing that says, where does my tax go? 19% where does my tax go? well, 19% £0.19. in every pound of every tax pound you pay goes to the nhs. the second biggest tax burden in the uk is benefits. 13% goes on benefits. so we're we're putting a combined total

there of 22% into health and benefits those unable to work. many, many people believe this system is rigged. it's there to keep people out of work. it's there to stop people getting back into work, and it's there to support growth fraud like this. it'sjust to support growth fraud like this. it's just like to support growth fraud like this. it'sjust like a to support growth fraud like this. it's just like a cash machine. now then we've got some live footage . i think we are live footage. i think we are going to that crucial vote in the european union that's coming up soon. it's nine years in the making, nine years in the making , this crucial asylum and migration bill basically is to disperse asylum seekers throughout the bloc. but it's causing huge division. a lot of countries such as italy and greece, who feel they are disproportionately being impacted because of course, they are on the seafaring side . they are on the seafaring side. they are on the seafaring side. they are receiving them. they want them to be dispersed throughout them to be dispersed throughout the bloc . but them to be dispersed throughout the bloc. but member them to be dispersed throughout the bloc . but member states are the bloc. but member states are saying, well, should we do saying, well, why should we do that ? in fact, 11 countries have

that? in fact, 11 countries have actually out of schengen actually pulled out of schengen open borders due to terrorism threats and it happened, of course, during covid, open borders breaking down in the eu. today's vote truly historic. macron wants mass abstentions . macron wants mass abstentions. he wants this to go through. but very, very few others do. could this sink the european union a huge moment in the eu bloc's history ? i almost wish i was history? i almost wish i was back there as an mep for this one because this is going to be calamity. we'll have that in the next hour. all as it as it comes live. i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel. first is your weather and it's with annie . with annie. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> good afternoon. welcome to your latest gb news us weather update. there's going to be a lot of cloud around for the rest

of the day, but it will start to feel quite a lot milder, particularly overnight. there's still rain to still some further heavy rain to come, across come, particularly across northwestern areas. that's where that in force. that weather warnings in force. that's because these weather fronts to push into fronts continue to push into these areas, but will these areas, but they will slowly sink southwards slowly start to sink southwards throughout the so throughout the evening. so there's rain there's some further heavy rain to for to come, particularly for western scotland, northwestern england, but england, parts of cumbria. but overnight tonight that rain band is going to sink southwards into wales. of the midlands and wales. parts of the midlands and then once reaches south then once it reaches the south coast well, that's coast of england, well, that's where stay for much of where it will stay for much of thursday. north, though, thursday. further north, though, it's going much drier it's going to be a much drier and brighter but with and brighter start, but with brisk winds and brisk southwesterly winds and that mild air, it's going to be a very mild start to the day tomorrow. and actually it's going to a pretty dry and going to be a pretty dry and bright particularly for bright day, particularly for northern bright day, particularly for non uk n bright day, particularly for non uk , northeastern bright day, particularly for noriuk , northeastern areas of the uk, northeastern areas of scotland, the east coast of northern england as well, and later on the southeast, we'll see quite a lot dry and see quite a lot of dry and bright weather and it'll feel quite warm in that sunshine. but further south, though, across the coast going be the south coast it's going to be a cloudier a bit a much cloudier day, a bit cooler still fairly

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news. >> a very good afternoon to you all. it's 4 pm. welcome to the martin daubney show on gb news. broadcasting live from the heart of westminster all across the uk . on today's show, lawless britain, the prime minister unveils tough new penalties on people who commit crime. on britain's high streets. is this the government admitting they've

lost control of our beleaguered high streets and it's time for an eu asylum pact? it's the day of a huge crunch vote. nine years in the making as the european union votes in brussels on an agreement to share the burden of accepting refugees will be live with all the latest from brussels. could this tear the eu apart ? plus, britain's the eu apart? plus, britain's biggest pub company and owner of the slug and lettuce chains, is battling multi—billion pound debts. so what does this mean for the rest of our beloved british boozers? is it a glass half full moment? could we bring back the independence? and next up, a british energy company will start drilling at the biggest north sea oil find in decades. and that's despite a net zero crackdown on the industry. could this save british oil and gas and bring down your energy bills? and five

members of a bulgarian organised crime syndicate have been convicted of falsely claiming over £54 million in universal credit in in the uk's biggest ever benefit fraud crackdown. but the bigger question is this is the entire benefit system a broken fraudulent joke ? and broken fraudulent joke? and that's all coming up in your next hour. thanks. welcome to the show. always a pleasure to have your company. now, we are moments away from that historic vote in brussels, the migration pact. they're going to start voting on thatis they're going to start voting on that is dividing the bloc, ostensibly , it's about taking ostensibly, it's about taking your fair share of people who arrive illegally. asylum seekers to 27 member states, spain and italy , greece. they feel like italy, greece. they feel like they're being totally overwhelmed. they want them to be dispersed throughout the bloc. but other other member

states saying, well, no, we don't want them coming to our state. in fact, member states state. in fact, 11 member states have completely disregarded the schengen open borders rules . schengen open borders rules. they're enforcing action on their own borders because of terrorism threats, very real threats. will there be a huge revolt? could this be a massive moment in the breakdown of the european union? we'll have that live in this hour and get in touch all the usual ways . and touch all the usual ways. and there's a new way actually, of doing it. you can send your views in and post your comments by visiting gbnews.com forward slash your say get in touch. but before that it's time for your latest news headlines . latest news headlines. >> martin, thank you and good afternoon to you. well, the pillars of gender medicine , pillars of gender medicine, we're told, are built on shaky foundations and lack evidence on the impacts of puberty blockers and hormone replacements on children. >> that's according to a new

study the cass review has said today, children are being let down by remarkably weak evidence and calls for gender services for young people to match the standards of other nhs care centres. >> it says the toxicity of the debate around gender issues has meant professionals were simply too afraid to openly discuss their medical concerns. the prime minister, rishi sunak, says children's wellbeing is the government's priority. of course we must treat children who are questioning their gender with compassion and sensitivity, but we have to recognise that we need to move with extreme caution in these areas because we just simply don't know. >> the long tum impacts of what this all means, and children's wellbeing is uppermost in our mind, and that's why we've acted on the interim findings previously. whether that's the nhs banning the routine use of puberty blockers or indeed the guidance we to schools guidance that we gave to schools about how to treat these issues , about how to treat these issues, rishi sunak, now assaulting a shop worker will be made into a

new criminal offence as the government responds to a surge in retail crime. >> it's after a report found violent and abusive incidents against shop workers rose by 50% from 2022 to 2023. the government previously said it didn't think a change in the law was going to be needed. well, the shadow home secretary, yvette cooper, says unlike the conservatives, labour taking conservatives, labour are taking steps to improve britain's high streets. >> but the conservatives have finally done a u—turn and agreed to labour's plan for a new offence of assault against shop workers. but we've been calling for stronger action against violence on shop workers for ten years now, and they have resisted at every stage. even now, it's still a pale imitation of our plans because they're not putting the neighbourhood police back on the streets to actually help take the action and do the work that we need. labour's plan would be 13,000 more neighbourhood police and pcsos in our town centres, high streets and neighbourhoods across the country. >> yvette cooper now five

members of a bulgarian organised crime group, have been convicted of falsely claiming over £50 million worth of universal credit in the uk's biggest ever case of uk benefit fraud over a four and a half year period, the gang made thousands of false claims for universal credit, using either real people or hijacked identities. the investigation identified three so—called benefit factories in london, where repeated false claims for benefits were supported by forged documents , supported by forged documents, including fake tenancy agreements, counterfeit payslips and forged letters from landlords, employers and gp's. the defendants will appear for meant for sentencing in may. now a father has been jailed for life with a minimum time to serve of 22 years for murdering his baby son. four week old ollie davis was pronounced dead after being found lifeless in his cot in october 2017, having sustained a number of serious injuries , including broken

injuries, including broken bones. his 29 year old father, michael davis, was found guilty of murder and two counts of causing grievous bodily harm. ollie's mother, kayleigh driver, was also jailed for seven years for causing or allowing the death a child. detective death of a child. detective constable natasha batstone, of leicestershire spoke on leicestershire police, spoke on behalf of ollie's family outside leicester crown court . leicester crown court. >> this has changed our family forever and we suffer mentally with these evil actions . all we with these evil actions. all we want is justice for ollie as thatis want is justice for ollie as that is the least that he deserves. as a family, we have been dragged through hell for nearly seven years with all the lies and deceit. ollie will be forever in our broken hearts and his memory will forever live on. >> now the tech giant apple has been accused of anti—sex elitism after displaying the palestinian flag instead of the israeli flag. when users type in the world, the word jerusalem. some users with devices running on the latest iphone software have

noficed the latest iphone software have noticed the prompt in their predictive text function, but not every user sees it . now, not every user sees it. now, runaway horse has been found at a railway station in sydney in australia. if you're watching on tv, take a look at this alarmed passengers leaping out of the way. is the horse casually trotted along the platform. the train driver , in the train that train driver, in the train that arrived at the platform very wisely kept the doors shut to keep the horse out of the train itself. luckily, the cavalry did arrive and the racehorse was taken home to his stable safely . taken home to his stable safely. that's the news. for the latest stories, do sign up to gb news alerts. scan the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. common alerts . alerts. >> thank you very much. poorly now assaulting shop workers would be made into a standalone criminal offence , which could criminal offence, which could lead to six months in prison.

ministers had previously ruled out calls to create a new offence, claiming that it would not be effective. but the shadow home secretary, yvette cooper , home secretary, yvette cooper, claims the poor imitation of the labour party's new five point plan for the high street has been calling for stronger action against violence on shop workers for ten years now, and they have resisted at every stage. >> even now, it's still a pale imitation of our plans because they're not putting the neighbourhood police back on the streets to actually help take the action and do the work that we need . we need. >> well, gb news political editor christopher hope joins me now. chris, welcome to the show. rishi sunak getting tough on crime on the high street, something which many, many people feel absolutely beleaguered and blights their lives . the big question is will lives. the big question is will it work ? it work? >> yes. hi, martin. you join me from a wet horsham town centre ,

from a wet horsham town centre, in west sussex. here you'll see these are usual shops here you might find in any, any town in england , you might think it england, you might think it looks like quite a prosperous area. certainly it feels that way here. and although the heavens have opened on me, it was very, very sunny earlier. but what's interesting about here sunak was here here and rishi sunak was here earlier they've got an idea earlier is they've got an idea here on here to crack down on shoplifting which shoplifting, which may be expanded country. expanded across the country. they've new app called they've got this new app called disc 100 pubs and businesses and shops are signed up. it's real time access on an app to the police. the police can step in and can single out and deal with anyone suspected of shoplifting. that's the idea , and that's why that's the idea, and that's why there's quite a lot of a high level of reported shoplifting in the currently in horsham, we heard mr sunak was here earlier talking to the police , and also talking to the police, and also he was trying to raise awareness of an idea, a new policy from the government in which if you assault or attack a shop worker, you will get six months in prison . despite the fact, of prison. despite the fact, of course, the government doesn't

want to jail anyone less than a yean want to jail anyone less than a year, the idea is you'll get a serious that serious penalty. that is something u—turn from this something of a u—turn from this tory government. they had opposed when it was opposed this idea when it was supported in a in a petition last october. but clearly the government now thinks it's a good idea. here's what the pm, mr sunak, had to say earlier to reporters , announce a strong set reporters, announce a strong set of measures to clamp down on retail crime. >> that's about a new offence, a brand new offence for assaulting shop workers using facial recognition technology to catch perpetrators with cctv, but also greater use of electronic tagging of prolific shoplifters. it's been warmly welcomed by retailers and police. i've spoken to today and, crucially, will demonstrate to our shop workers that we've got their back and also that we will do what it takes to keep our streets and our communities safe. what everybody streets and our communities safe. that's/hat everybody streets and our communities safe. that's whatverybody streets and our communities safe. that's what we'll)dy deliver. >> but the prisons full. >> but the prisons are full. >> but the prisons are full. >> we're the midst of >> we're in the midst of building biggest building, building the biggest building, building prison expansion programme decades, in programme in many decades, in fact, actually thousands and thousands of new places. we're also increasing sentencing for the criminals, the most violent criminals,

ending halfway ending the automatic halfway release point, because those are the right things to do, because the right things to do, because the violent offenders the most violent offenders should jail should be sent to jail for longer. what we're longer. that's what we're delivering the all delivering by the way, all opposed labour party. opposed by the labour party. when those laws . when we pass those laws. >> pm there saying >> that's the pm there saying why think he can why he's he does think he can lock up people who are violent towards shop workers, despite the fact that the prisons are full. martin >> yeah, and it's being heralded by the british retail consortium as a welcome move. they're saying finally 3 million people are being listened to. but the transform justice the movement there, they're saying it won't reduce workers because reduce shop workers because there's an existing law that is precisely same on emergency precisely the same on emergency workers, hasn't a workers, which hasn't seen a decline on the number of attacks at all. in fact, i'm being contacted by coppers who are saying this is window dressing. talking of which , chris, our old talking of which, chris, our old friend rwanda was also discussed today. and of course, you have that bet with the prime minister, rishi sunak. a single pint of beer no flights pint of beer that no flights will take off. what did the pm have to say on rwanda to you ?

have to say on rwanda to you? >> yeah, on that bet. martin, i think before the election, think it's before the election, which we thought was in may when that bet was offered back in september. if you remember, on your programme, when mr sunak first said he would try and take on the small boats issue properly, pending the legal case going , that's why we're going through, that's why we're expecting this back in the house of monday, when mps of commons on monday, when mps are reverse the are looking to reverse the amendments the lords . it amendments made by the lords. it will then ping and pong and back again house again between the house of commons, house of lords and we think it should the think it should be the government's expectation is that this of rwanda this rwanda safety of rwanda bill law by thursday and bill will be law by thursday and then it's over to the courts. but as for mr sunak, he is still confident that the first flights will take off in the spring, despite the weather. here's what he say earlier . he had to say earlier. >> i'm committed to stopping the boats. we need to have a deterrent if people come deterrent so that if people come here they stay, here illegally they can't stay, they'll that's why they'll be removed. that's why rwanda is so important. that's why determined to see why i'm determined to see it through. all, need through. first of all, we need to through parliament, to get it through parliament, where party has been where the labour party has been blocking a long time.

blocking it for a long time. once running, i'm once it's up and running, i'm confident to confident we'll be able to operationalise the scheme, get people flights, because people on flights, because that's up that's how we'll set up a deterrent and ultimately the deterrent and ultimately end the unfairness of people jumping the queue coming illegally, queue, coming here illegally, putting and risking their own services and risking their own lives. none of that's right. none of it's fair and none of it's either, to do it's compassionate either, to do nothing. is the nothing. and our plan is the right nothing. and our plan is the rigifantastic stuff chris. so >> fantastic stuff chris. so busy. be out there in horsham on shoplifting , clamping down on shoplifting, clamping down on assaults and rwanda. thank you for joining us on the show. always a pleasure. now this one just in youth demand have spray painted the ministry of defence in collaboration with palestine action, and this is the latest attack you can see them just jumping over the barrier there and spraying red paint onto the historic mod building, desecration, some may say. well i'm joined now by gb news reporter charlie peters. charlie what's the latest on this? five arrests. martin, for today's demonstration , this is a

demonstration, this is a collaboration. as you said, between youth demand and palestine action, this is their first time officially linking up.and first time officially linking up. and it marks an escalation in youth demands. activities. this week. this is their third piece of direct action that they've taken since launching and gathering officially . and gathering officially. >> last week, we revealed that this group had made that collaboration with palestine action on thursday, which has attracted significant controversy because palestine action is currently being assessed as a potential extremist group , according to extremist group, according to reports and youth demand is a youth spin off group from just stop oil, and they say they are campaigning against what they describe as genocides in gaza and genocide caused by oil and gas licences and the environmental damage caused by that. >> as you're seeing right now on your screen, some arrests taking place there. british transport police were actually monitoring a youth demand march, i understand, which was taking

place through the various tube stations in central london. they then section of that protest broke off from the main group to go to the main building of the mod on the embankment side, where they've sprayed the building in red paint. and red is significant because usually when just up oil conducts those protests, they engage with orange . this is a sign that orange. this is a sign that those environmentalists are now moving away from their eco message and taking on the pro—palestinian cause. lord walney, the government's independent adviser on political violence and disruption, told me last week that many environmentalists were latching on to the crisis in the middle east in order to get their message front and centre , and he message front and centre, and he also said that this was a potential cause of radicalised action, as those groups combined. yesterday we saw activists from youth demand go to keir starmers house, where they conducted a protest there. this was roundly criticised by many leading figures in the

british establishment, including the prime minister and the home secretary, james cleverly. >> and on monday we saw them breaking live on this show. we saw painting labour saw them spray painting labour hq again with red paint. >> 11 arrests for that. >> 11 arrests for that. >> we've also had three charged for that protest yesterday . for that protest yesterday. >> so the third and potentially the final protest from this week of action from this new group in central london this week. and john ipsis, you were the first to break the story that they were joining up with palestine action, and they said they meant business and by jove, whatever you think of them, they've been active and they're certainly grabbing attention. but those that building the mod building, charlie, it's a beautiful, historic, protected listed building. but thankfully the police were quickly on the scene. that's right, martin, but also, we have to recognise that this is an extremely sensitive building. >> it has round the clock permanent coverage from a specific police department. >> the mod police. and it's

interesting that the british transport police were involved in conducting those arrests, not the met, not the mod that are based there permanently, but rather that different specialist subsection of the constabulary who were already on board monitoring that protest throughout central london. so they must have noticed it's likely that they noticed those five protesters breaking free from the main pack and following them there. in the footage we've seen released by the group , we seen released by the group, we do see other officers running down towards that location. >> those are likely involved in the mod police permanent presence at the building . presence at the building. >> okay. thank you very much, charlie peters. and that's >> okay. thank you very much, charlie petersandi that's ’ 7 77 77 7 >> okay. thank you very much, charlie petersand you've ’ 7 77 77 7 >> okay. thank you very much, charlie petersand you've helped 77 77 7 >> okay. thank you very much, charlie petersand you've helped to ,, . gbnews.com. and you've helped to make it fastest growing make it the fastest growing national website in the national news website in the country. very much . country. so thank you very much. now brace yourselves because it's now brace yourselves because wsfime now brace yourselves because it's time now for our latest

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welcome back. it's 423. i'm martin daubney on gb news now. as just said, we'll have all eyes on that eu vote. that crucial vote on asylum and

migration that's happening right now as we speak. when that vote breaks, we will of course, bring that to you straight away. but before that , new data suggests before that, new data suggests that over half of home office asylum decisions are being overturned on appeal . and this overturned on appeal. and this even includes a convicted sex offender from afghanistan who was granted asylum after a judge ruled that he would be at risk of mob violence if he was sent home. so the big question is this is britain's asylum system completely broken? well i can now speak with immigration lawyer hojjat singh bhangal. welcome to the show, hajib. we have this conversation so often, do we not? but this latest set of figures and revelations even surprise me. the fact we can't deport convicted sex offenders because they claim they will face potential violence in their home country, would astonish many gb news viewers . don't many gb news viewers. don't forget, of course, abdul ezedi went down a similar route, committed two sex offences, and

yet wasn't deported, and went on to commit that heinous crime. are we placing the human rights of sex offenders before the human rights of british citizens ? >> 7- >> oh not ? >> oh not really, 7 >> oh not really, it's what we're doing is a system with the home office is that it's broken. we're not fixing the broken home office. the home office removal rate goes like this. it rate graph goes like this. it goes all the way down since 2010. and the fact is, we know who's been in control since 2010. >> before that, people were being sent back 60,000 a year, 50,000 a year. >> even in forced removals, which are removals of people whose case has been rejected, they were in 11, 15,011 thousand since 2010. that went they were in 11, 15,011 thousand since somebody'snent they were in 11, 15,011 thousand since somebody's case been, once somebody's case has been, refused and once their appeal has been refused to actually put somebody on a plane back to the

country, we can only put people back planes , back to their back onto planes, back to their country if we've return country if we've got return agreements. when we negotiate in agreements. when we negotiate in a treaty in 2016, we a certain treaty in 2016, we forgot to do that. that's the problem. so what we've got to do is you've this whole system is broken. anybody who works in a home office will tell you that. we know that the fact that our borders aren't secure, we know that aren't being that people aren't being sent back. that people aren't being sent back . we know that cases are back. we know that cases are taking years decide . it taking two years to decide. it should take half a day for a trained person decide a case. trained person to decide a case. it shouldn't take two years, martin, a decision and martin, to make a decision and it's not one case or five cases or ten cases that are waiting two or a year for two years or a year for a decision. it's over 100,000. and so people are so in that time, people are staying there. they're allowed to apply again. they can appeal again , and they're creating again, and they're creating lives for themselves here. and the they stay here, the the longer they stay here, the harder it is to send people back precisely again , some of precisely and again, some of these figures are simply eye—watering. >> 61% of all failed asylum seekers are still in the uk.

there's one case here of an african woman who's been trying and failing for 18 years to get the right to remain and every time she's refused the home office, simply ask her if she'd like to leave the country. they don't deport her. they don't do the job. and what we have there is the perfect storm for this constant legal merry go round . constant legal merry go round. and nobody ever seems to leave the country. >> yeah , i mean, the removals >> yeah, i mean, the removals unit is, you know, probably exhausted . and they're the ones exhausted. and they're the ones that we need to concentrate on. firstly the whole system needs to be we need to stop the gangs sending people here. we can't stop these gangs who are sending people past 20 years people for the past 20 years from french coast, of from the french coast, all of your know that they your viewers know that they start from the french coast. all of viewers they of your viewers know that they end the kent coast. the uk end up on the kent coast. the uk government seem know government doesn't seem to know this tells this lie. this and tells us this lie. they're steps of us. they're eight steps ahead of us. then what the heck is all the intelligence and all of the police force and border force doing that? you've got not only police force and border force doiryou at? you've got not only police force and border force doiryou can't)u've got not only police force and border force doiryou can't do 'e got not only police force and border force doiryou can't do your: not only police force and border force doiryou can't do your: notandy can you can't do your job and you them. then when

you can't stop them. then when they you take a year, they get here, you take a year, two years to give a two years to give them a decision on claim after decision on their claim after they've in they've given an interview in half then after their half a day, then after their appeal been refused or their appeal has been refused or their claims been you don't claims been refused, you don't even whole even send them back. this whole system is broken. if you're system is broken. so if you're looking your punch looking at what your punch line today or the tagline is saying britain's broken asylum system, you're , me you up you're right, me and you end up talking other about talking every other week about this, system is this, that this system is broken, yet no action is done. it a complete overhaul it needs a complete overhaul from top to bottom on that. >> we can agree, my friend. then here's something i'm going to throw at you as an immigration lawyer, which upset you. lawyer, which might upset you. £34 million legal aid has £34 million of legal aid has been year since 2017 been spent every year since 2017 on asylum cases , according to on asylum cases, according to the ministry of justice. should asylum seekers, particularly those who come to the country illegally, even get legal aid? >> well, they only get a limited amount of legal aid, so a lawyer only gets involved after someone gets refused . when someone's gets refused. when someone's caught at dover trying to enter the country , no lawyers are the country, no lawyers are called down there and they're

the country, no lawyers are cal done.wn there and they're the country, no lawyers are cal done. that's re and they're the country, no lawyers are cal done. that's all|nd they're the country, no lawyers are cal done. that's all dealtey're all done. that's all dealt by the office. so £34 million the home office. so £34 million legal that's how much legal aid. that's fine. how much are we spending on border force? how we spending on home how much are we spending on home office ? what about them? how much are we spending on home office that? what about them? how much are we spending on home office that are hat about them? how much are we spending on home office that are sittingyut them? how much are we spending on home office that are sitting thereem? barges that are sitting there empty? about the 500 empty? what about the 500 million we've spent to million that we've spent to rwanda? times more is rwanda? how many times more is that than 34 million loads. that's more than ten times was spent on zero planes to go to rwanda and to ferry people like suella braverman on private first class planes, to out first class planes, to go out there and show us. and what about the latest revelation, martin, the accommodation martin, that the accommodation that was set aside for the people in rwanda has been sold off? that tells you that there's no send people to no intention to send people to rwanda . and if there is, it's rwanda. and if there is, it's just a gimmick. that money just a gimmick. and that money who eating that money? who has been eating that money? it's is it's this government is responsible british responsible for that. british citizens, british companies. what about money on the what about all the money on the hotels is being spent hotels that is being spent daily? like i the whole daily? like i said, the whole system is done. it's not lawyers orjudges system is done. it's not lawyers or judges to blame system is done. it's not lawyers orjudges to blame here. it looks like that. what? this is a whole shambles from top . from whole shambles from top. from the day a person leaves the coast of france to the day the

person gets rejected here and he's just allowed to roam free in the country. so that my friend on this government, friend is on this government, they're in charge. the removal figures have down like figures have gone down like that. it doesn't matter whether we have theresa david we have theresa may, david cameron, boris johnson, rishi sunak matter who's been cameron, boris johnson, rishi sunak secretaryatter who's been cameron, boris johnson, rishi sunak secretary orer who's been cameron, boris johnson, rishi sunak secretary or home s been foreign secretary or home secretary. we've had priti patel play secretary. we've had priti patel play a big tell us the rwanda scheme suella, shouting from the rooftops robert jenrick the results speak for themselves . results speak for themselves. you know the results. you've said the figures 61. that's not normal. no >> so that begs the question, though. hardeep singh bhangal , though. hardeep singh bhangal, is this going to change or get any different under the labour party ? they're talking tough, party? they're talking tough, but simply looking but are we just simply looking down a system so down the barrel of a system so broken it can't be fixed? well at least keir starmer is saying the right things. >> for a start. he's saying he's going the gangs and going to smash the gangs and stop that's the stop the gangs. that's the correct this. you correct way to do this. you don't stop drug dealing by locking up the drug users. you go out and get the drug dealers right. you won't stop people

smuggling asylum smuggling by locking up asylum seekers. to catch seekers. you'll have to catch the people smugglers. and this government do government has failed to do that. how many people smuggling gangs they caught in the gangs have they caught in the last ten years? when you hear last ten years? when do you hear about smugglers getting about a people smugglers getting life deter them? life in jail as to deter them? you if they get caught, you don't. if they get caught, they 3 years, they're they get 2 or 3 years, they're out they usually fall out and they usually have a fall quy- 9°t out and they usually have a fall guy. got break the guy. you've got to break the business model gangs. business model of the gangs. a bigger deterrent than this government the rwanda government and the rwanda scheme is and that just is the weather and that just tells you everything that the gangs run on, whether the weather is good or not, this deterrence scheme, whatever the government hasn't worked. government said, hasn't worked. at saying at least labour are saying the right things. and if they right things. and when if they do things, we'll have do the right things, we'll have to and see. but the fact to wait and see. but the fact that we definitely take away that we can definitely take away is government has done is this government has done everything is this government has done eveokay,g is this government has done eve okay, hojjat is this government has done eveokay, hojjat singh bhangal, >> okay, hojjat singh bhangal, it's hard to disagree with that. thank you very much for joining us on the show. as ever, channelling pure common sense. now there's lots more still to come between now and 5:00. as i speak to a pub owner about the mortal threats facing his industry. but first, it's time

for your latest news headlines, and here's polly middlehurst. >> the top stories this hour. the pillars of children's gender medicine are built on shaky foundations, and a lack of evidence on the impacts of puberty blockers. that's according to the new cass review, which says children are being let down by remarkably weak evidence . and it's called weak evidence. and it's called for gender services for young people to match the standards of other nhs care centres . the other nhs care centres. the study cited the toxicity of the debate around gender issues, which it said has meant that health professionals have been afraid to openly voice their medical concerns . the prime medical concerns. the prime minister, rishi sunak, has said children's wellbeing is the government's top priority. >> of course we must treat children who are questioning their gender with compassion and sensitivity, but we have to recognise that we need to move with extreme caution in these areas because we just simply

don't know the long time impacts of what this all means, and children's wellbeing is uppermost in our mind , and uppermost in our mind, and that's why we've acted on the interim findings previously. whether that's the nhs banning the routine use of puberty blockers or indeed the guidance that we gave to schools about how these issues . how to treat these issues. >> also, the news today, assaulting a shop worker is going to be made into a separate criminal offence in a new government move in response to a surge in retail crime . it's surge in retail crime. it's after a report found violent and abusive incidents against shop workers rose by 50% in the year 2022 to 23. the government previously said it did not think a change in the law was needed. but today rishi sunak announced the government would be amending its criminal justice bill to bnngin its criminal justice bill to bring in the new offence . and in bring in the new offence. and in news we've received in the last ten minutes or so, three sons and three grandchildren of the hamas , ismail haniyeh, hamas leader, ismail haniyeh, have been killed in an israeli airstrike in gaza. mr haniyeh has since said the killing will

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i >> welcome back. it's 437. i'm martin daubney, and this is gb news. thanks for your company. now, britain's biggest pub company, stonegate, which owns more than 4400 uk boozers and bars, including the slug and lettuce, might not survive past 2025 because it's battling with debts of over £23 billion. and this this comes as hundreds of our beloved boozers face closure, which is my word , closure, which is my word, nightmare. the big question is, with many battling high energy

bills, soaring interest rates and an ongoing cost of living crisis, could this spell the end of the great british boozer? now there's two ways of looking at this the glass half empty notion is, is this the fact that the pub is going down the toilet, as it were? they're so expensive to run. beers are pricey people. or avoid them, or glass half full. does a massive chain breaking up give an opportunity to the smaller chains and landlords? well, joining us now is the founder of the city pub group, clive watson clive, welcome to the show. so it's bad news. it could be last orders for the slug and lettuce. what's your take, i don't think we last orders, but clearly they bought a big business literally just before covid started, and took on a lot of debt and, of course, interest rates have gone up since then. the cost of funding that debt has got more

expensive. so, yeah, clearly they've got a stretched balance sheet. they'll have good advisors i'm sure they'll advisors and i'm sure they'll work . work it out. >> well, it's been interesting to the reaction to this, clive, that i've seen today from publicans, many publicans who work for big chains are saying maybe this is a long overdue recalibrate of the market. they would like to see landlords being given more opportunity to have their individual stamp on pubs , to make a better living pubs, to make a better living out of the trade . could there be out of the trade. could there be a silver lining if this were to happen ? happen? >>i happen? >> i think fragmentation in our industry is, yes, i agree is a good thing. i think there's probably too much consolidation of the bigger companies owning lots and lots of pubs, and i think that that gives them the, the, the power, i guess, in terms of they get better deals from suppliers, whereas the smaller people get not as good deals. so yeah, i think a recalibration between , the big recalibration between, the big players and smaller independents more in favour of the small independents. i think it's a

good thing. definitely >> and that would mean more choice for the consumer. many people watching this, clive will understand going people watching this, clive will undea;tand going people watching this, clive will undea local going people watching this, clive will undea local pub going people watching this, clive will undea local pub and going people watching this, clive will undea local pub and onlyying people watching this, clive will undea local pub and only being into a local pub and only being able to buy a national set of beers, which of course landlords are forced to buy up from their suppliers and if people are able to take more control of their community pubs, they bring back more choice and be better for locals. >> yeah, i mean, i think to be fair to the nationals, they give a wider range of beers and they've done historically so ten, 15 years ago. but yeah , a ten, 15 years ago. but yeah, a proper, genuine independent. freehouse pub that where it's run by the, you know, an owner, you know, old fashioned proprietor, landlord , landlady proprietor, landlord, landlady type feel is, is probably is . type feel is, is probably is. i'm not saying it's preferable to the bigger companies, but it's good to have more choice, as say, having have more as you say, having have more independence and independents tend to run their pubs better than big companies because there's more passion there. and therefore that raises the

overall that raises standards across the industry . across the industry. >> the big question, though, clive, now is it very , very hard clive, now is it very, very hard to make a living from pubs? we talk all the time about soaring energy prices. of course minimum wage prices going up every single chain of supply is putting costs through the roof, the margins are getting squeezed . how tough is it to make a screw now out of a boozer? >> well, look, it's a lot more difficult than it was before covid. obviously it's not. there's the covid legacy where businesses borrowed as much as they could to stay in business. they're having to repay that back , as you say, bank back, as you say, bank borrowings, costs. that's gone up . squeeze them margins. yeah. up. squeeze them margins. yeah. it's tough and you mentioned about the minimum wage i mean that's gone up ten, 11, 12% in april . now that's gone up ten, 11, 12% in april. now that's that's gone up ten, 11, 12% in april . now that's not that's gone up ten, 11, 12% in april. now that's not a bad thing to have a good minimum. you know, national living wage. but then you've got to try and reduce taxation elsewhere, whether it's vat or business

rates. i would say the pub industry is probably one of the most overtaxed businesses in the land every year, whether it's beer duty, vat , business rates, beer duty, vat, business rates, employers, national insurance , employers, national insurance, the most overtaxed, and this is a, you know, a cow that's been milked over the years . the milked over the years. the government were very supportive dunng government were very supportive during covid, but they've got to ease some of that tax pressure to let the industry properly recover . recover. >> well, i'll certainly drink to that. thanks for joining >> well, i'll certainly drink to that. thanks forjoining us on that. thanks for joining us on the show today. clive watson, the show today. clive watson, the founder of the city pub group. a pleasure have group. always a pleasure to have you now. still to you on the show now. still to come, bulgarian benefits come, the bulgarian benefits fraud gang, which fleeced taxpayers of an astonishing £54 million. it's believed to be the british, britain's largest ever case of benefit fraud. how on earth did they get away with it for so long? we'll look at that next. i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel

welcome back. it's 446. i'm martin daubney and this is gb news. now, a bulgarian organised crime gang fleeced taxpayers out of an astonishing £54 million in what's being called britain's biggest ever benefit fraud. prosecutors said the gang treated the benefit system like a cash machine to fund their own lavish lifestyles . the five you lavish lifestyles. the five you can see on screen now, who operated from three fraud factories in london, made around 6000 fraudulent universal credit . claims between 2016 and 2021, and the cash was used to buy expensive cars, clothing and jewellery. well joining me now is joanna morton. investigations campaign manager at the taxpayers alliance. thank you very much for joining taxpayers alliance. thank you very much forjoining us on the very much for joining us on the show, joanna. how on earth did

they get away with such a massive fraud for so long without being intercepted ? without being intercepted? >> no. >> no. >> well, it's absolutely outrageous to anyone hearing this story, but the real problem is that this is only a drop in the ocean in terms of the amount that the government is losing in benefit fraud every single year. overpayments due to benefit fraud. around 6.4 billion last yeah fraud. around 6.4 billion last year. and the cycle just keeps on continuing as people are able to take advantage of the system and what's truly eye—watering. >> joanna, you all know this. when i clicked on my tax return recently , where do my taxes go? recently, where do my taxes go? well, you know, 19% goes to the nhs. the second biggest tax liability of every pound is £0.13 in the pound goes to benefits. joanna we have a benefits. joanna we have a benefits bill. second only to the nhs. i watering. there's a

huge amount being paid out which obviously means a huge amount can be skimmed off. how do we how do we clamp down on such fraudulent fleecing of money. >> well, you know, taxpayers are paying, >> well, you know, taxpayers are paying, are living in a world where we're having a 70 year high tax burden and realistically, we want the government to do the best that they can to ensure that only those that really need these benefit receiving benefit payments are receiving them. right now, we have a system is sure to be used. system which is sure to be used. anyone is thinking that they can just use it to their own gain. it's seen as a system where you try and try again until you get a positive claim or you you get some kind of money. but what we really need is for the whole attitude towards the system to be for those that only need it. if you're struggling to a point where you can't live, then reach out and see whether you can claim this money. >> and a huge, huge amount of problem, of course, began during

covid when benefits scamming became a massive, massive industry , it was an overpay of industry, it was an overpay of 8.3 billion per year during the covid period, and that was nearly double the year's previous amount of fraudulent totals 7.5% of all benefits budget that year was fraud, and the government didn't do much about it. >> well, after covid, we have created a new attitude towards working and an entirely new attitude towards how we get money in the first place. >> you see, a lot of people have gotten accustomed to maybe receiving benefits or receiving payments because they couldn't work in a time when we were in a pandemic and we weren't allowed to. but now returning to work, as we've seen, and there have been multiple multiple reports that it's increasingly hard for the government to try and get people back to work. you have pubuc people back to work. you have public sectors that are giving

out major benefits in terms of pay, out major benefits in terms of pay, the flexibility . but what pay, the flexibility. but what we really need is for people to realise that, you know, this is how the world works. you have to work order live in order work in order to live in order to make money. >> only were the >> well, if only that were the mindset. thank you very much for joining us. joanna march. who's the investigations campaign manager at the taxpayers alliance. for joining manager at the taxpayers alliance. forjoining us alliance. thanks forjoining us on show. now, farmers on the show. now, farmers have warned of the first year without harvests since the second world war, severe weather and the resulting flooding means that consumers could soon see a price hike for food items as the wettest 18 months on record has left crops in short supply. now the national farmers union has warned that a crisis is building in the farming sector and have welcomed the launch of a farming recovery fund to support farmers who have suffered what they call uninsurable damage. farmers could receive grants of between

500 and £25,000 to restore their farms. well, joining me now to discuss this is gb news northern ireland reporter dougie beattie. dougie, welcome to the show . so dougie, welcome to the show. so we're up to our necks in water. a lot of land is being spoilt as a consequence. and tell us about why that's such a huge impact on the farming community. >> well good afternoon martin. and really what has happened here is back in 2016, we had a brexit deal and the civil service at that time decided to look at what we couldn't do, rather than what we could do, what would give our farmers an advantage . and really, they advantage. and really, they copied and pasted european legislation . and a lot of that legislation. and a lot of that legislation. and a lot of that legislation is around the environment we have had, yes, a big year of rain, but we should have been able to cope with it. our drains are shucks as we call them here in northern ireland, should been cleaned out , should have been cleaned out, but of course they haven't, because if go to clean a because if you go to clean a shock cut that's

shock or cut a tree that's thicker than arm, must thicker than your arm, you must go to the department of environment, because there may be newts or bulrushes be endangered newts or bulrushes or whatever in shocks that or whatever in those shocks that they want looked at. and this is they want looked at. and this is the perfect place to show you if you just look, if i just get the camera to turn here, you camera to turn around here, you can there is a shock, a can see there that is a shock, a drain and it is absolutely full to the brim. now over on the other side of that you'll see willow trees. i remember william massey planting those willow trees round about well, about 30 years ago. and they suck up the water that hits the land. but if you can't clean up the shocks , you can't clean up the shocks, well, then of course what happens is the gets full of happens is the land gets full of water. the water table is far too high. and then what is happening now is they can't let the cattle out onto the fields. so many, many dairy farmers here are finding they can't let their cattle out. and the most important part of this is the rainwater is running down the yard into the slurry storage tanks. and those slurry storage

tanks. and those slurry storage tanks are now at maximum capacity. and they some of them may burst within the next few weeks or overflow running into the field and the very shocks and drains that they're trying to protect the wildlife in taking away from that . then look taking away from that. then look behind it. you'll see this. this road is flooded and the road is flooded behind us, because on the other side of this, you have another drain that is running into a lake, and it is entirely full because you cannot clear it out without the department of environment having a look at it. first, farmers work 24 over seven. they have no time to be doing this. and when you look at all the other european legislation that's coming into place, i mean, i, i went to buy a huge bale of straw last week. now that massive bale of straw square bale last year was £55. we were told in ireland we had to apply our straw, our barley, back into the ground to be

environmentally friendly so as we get the nitrates out of it and of course there's no shortage of straw because the cattle are kept inside. okay, so the price of straw has gone through the roof, i'm afraid. >> dougie, we have to leave it there. we've simply run out of time. thank you very much for joining us. and of course, food pnces joining us. and of course, food prices might be going through the consequence the roof as a consequence of this. we've some this. but, look, we've got some breaking european breaking news. the european parliament has adopted a critical migration pact that aims division aims to end years of division over the issue. roberta metsola, the european parliament president, said we kept our word, calling the pact a balance between solidarity and responsibility. more on that . responsibility. more on that. but first, it's time for your weather with annie . weather with annie. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> good afternoon. welcome to your latest gb news weather update. it's going to be a lot of cloud around for the rest of the day, but it will start to feel quite a milder,

feel quite a lot milder, particularly overnight. there's still rain still some further heavy rain to come, across come, particularly across northwestern areas. that's where that weather warnings in force. that's because weather that's because these weather fronts push into fronts continue to push into these but will these areas, but they will slowly sink southwards slowly start to sink southwards throughout evening. so throughout the evening. so there's rain there's some further heavy rain to , particularly for to come, particularly for western scotland, northwestern england, . but england, parts of cumbria. but overnight tonight rain band overnight tonight that rain band is southwards into is going to sink southwards into wales, parts of the midlands. and it reaches the and then once it reaches the south of england, well, south coast of england, well, that's where it will stay for much thursday. further north, much of thursday. further north, though, to be much though, it's going to be a much dner though, it's going to be a much drier brighter but drier and brighter start, but with southwesterly with brisk southwesterly winds and going to and that mild air, it's going to be start to the day be a very mild start to the day tomorrow. actually it's tomorrow. and actually it's going a pretty dry and going to be a pretty dry and bright day, particularly for northern and eastern areas of the uk. northeastern areas of scotland , the east coast of scotland, the east coast of northern england as well, and later on the southeast. we'll see quite a lot of dry and bright weather and it will feel quite that sunshine. quite warm in that sunshine. but further across further south, though, across the south coast it's going to be a much cloudier day. a bit cooler here, but still fairly humid outbreaks of humid with some outbreaks of

drizzly the day . drizzly rain through the day. overnight. on thursday night, this push into this area of rain will push into parts northern ireland and parts of northern ireland and then scotland on then into scotland later on on friday, another friday, so it'll be another fairly wet day much of the fairly wet day for much of the northwest. south, northwest. further south, though, it should stay fairly dry and bright through friday and it should stay on the milder side of things as well. looking ahead weekend, further ahead to the weekend, further rain northwest, rain arrives into the northwest, but in the south. >> looks like things are heating up. >> boxt boilers sponsors of weather on

gb news. away. >> good afternoon. it's 5 pm. welcome to the martin dalby show on gb news broadcasting live from the heart of westminster all across the uk today. coming up, lawless britain. the prime minister unveils tough new penalties on people who commit crime on britain's high streets. is this the government's admitting they finally lost

control of high street crime? plus britain's biggest pub company and owner of the slug and lettuce , is battling and lettuce, is battling multi—billion pound debts. so what does this mean for the rest of our beloved british boozers ? of our beloved british boozers? and a british energy company will start drilling at the biggest north sea oil find in decades. and that's despite a net zero crackdown and a huge tax burden on the industry. could this finally bring down british bills? and the bulgarian gang has been convicted of what's believed to be britain's largest ever case of benefits fraud. they fleece the taxpayer of an astonishing £54 million to fund their lavish lifestyles. and that's all coming up in your next hour . now we've got some next hour. now we've got some breaking for news you on that huge vote in the european union. just happened in brussels. and the latest is the eu parliament

has adopted a critical migration pact that aims to end years of division over the issue. roberta metsola, the european parliament's president, said we kept our word calling the pact a balance between solidarity and responsibility , but this has responsibility, but this has already met with huge resistance from the mep community. those who are in favour of it include giorgia meloni. she thinks italy takes more than its fair share of illegals arriving. she wants them to be dispersed throughout them to be dispersed throughout the bloc, but away from the coastal member states. in france, for example, they're not happy at all. they're going to have to take quotas, marine le pen, the french right, already reacted, saying they will fight the upcoming european elections in june on this ticket. forced quotas being sent to countries. does that make you glad that we got out of the european union? macron is delighted. they claim

it helps them to take back control of their borders. but does it? it doesn't stop the boats coming , but it does boats coming, but it does encourage dispersal. there are some tough measures on detention and deportation and they were not liked by the liberal left. we'll have the full breakdown on that throughout this hour. get in touch all the usual ways . in touch all the usual ways. plus there's a new way you can get in touch with us. you can send your views and post your comments visiting news. send your views and post your comrforward visiting news. send your views and post your comrforward slash ng news. send your views and post your comrforward slash your news. send your views and post your comrforward slash your sayzws. send your views and post your comrforward slash your say so.. com forward slash your say so get stuck in. but before all of that , it's get stuck in. but before all of that, it's time for your latest news headlines and it's polly middlehurst. >> martin. thank you. good evening. well, children's gender care on the nhs has been based on weak evidence and has been branded scandalous by the shadow health secretary after the publication of a new study . the publication of a new study. the cass review says children are being let down by remarkably weak evidence and calls for gender services for young people

to match the high standards of other care centres. labour's other nhs care centres. labour's wes streeting said children have been let down by a lack of research and evidence, saying the report is an important piece of work which has raised serious concerns. report said the concerns. the report said the toxicity of the debate around gender issues has meant professionals have been too afraid to openly their afraid to openly discuss their medical concerns, the prime minister, rishi sunak, has said today children's wellbeing is the government's priority . the government's priority. >> of course, we must treat children who are questioning their gender with compassion and sensitivity, but we to sensitivity, but we have to recognise that we need to move with extreme caution in these areas because we just simply don't know the long tum impacts of what this all means, and children's wellbeing is uppermost in our mind, and that's why we've acted on the interim findings previously. whether that's the nhs banning the routine of puberty the routine use of puberty blockers or indeed the guidance that gave to schools about that we gave to schools about how treat these issues . how to treat these issues. >> now, assaulting a shop worker is going to be made into a new

criminal offence as the government responds to a surge in retail crime. it's after a report found violent and abusive incidents against shop workers rose by 50% in 2022 to 23. the government previously said it didn't think a change in the law was needed. the shadow home secretary, yvette cooper, says the move now is long overdue. >> but the conservatives have finally done a u—turn and agreed to labour's plan for a new offence of assault against shop workers. but we've been calling for stronger action against violence on shop workers for ten years now, and they have resisted at every stage. even now, it's still a pale imitation of our plans because they're not putting the neighbourhood police back on the streets to actually help take the action and do the work that we need. labour's plan would be 13,000 more neighbourhood police and pcsos in our town centres, high streets and neighbourhoods across the country . across the country. >> vie yvette cooper. five members of a bulgarian organised

crime group have been convicted of falsely claiming over £50 million in universal credit in the uk's biggest ever fraud case over a four and a half year period. the gang made thousands of false claims for universal credit, using either people credit, using either real people or hijacked identities. the investigation identified three so—called benefit factories based in london, where repeated false claims for benefits were supported by forged documents, including fake tenancy agreements, count fit payslips and forged letters from landlords, as well as employers and gp's. the defendants are due to appear for sentencing in may. a father has been jailed for life with a minimum time to serve of 22 years for murdering his baby son. four week old ollie davis was pronounced dead after being found lifeless in his cot in 2017, having sustained a number of serious

injuries, including broken bones. his 29 year old father, michael davis, was found guilty of murder and two counts of causing grievous bodily harm. ollie's mother, kayleigh driver, was also jailed for seven years for causing or allowing the death of a child . detective death of a child. detective constable natasha batstone, of leicestershire police , spoke on leicestershire police, spoke on behalf of the baby's family outside leicester crown court. >> this has changed our family forever and we suffer mentally with these evil actions . all we with these evil actions. all we want is justice for ollie as thatis want is justice for ollie as that is the least that he deserves as a family , we have deserves as a family, we have been dragged through hell for nearly seven years with all the lies and deceit . ollie will be lies and deceit. ollie will be forever in our broken hearts and his memory will forever live on. >> new home office figures have shown today that £4.3 billion of britain's overseas aid budget was spent on hosting refugees and asylum seekers last year. last year, £8 million was spent

every single day on tens of thousands of asylum seekers staying in hotels who were waiting for alternative accommodation . james cleverly accommodation. james cleverly now says 150 migrant hotels will be closed by may, and those places will be returned to their communities . the government has communities. the government has said that they've also reduced the number of asylum seekers from 2000 to 800, who are staying raf scampton, after staying at raf scampton, after concerns from local people there. the national audit office says, however, that around £12 billion is still expected to be spent on housing migrants on large sites . three sons and large sites. three sons and three grandchildren of the hamas leader, ismail haniyeh, have been killed in an israeli airstrike in gaza. mr haniyeh has since said the killing won't affect the group's demands in their ceasefire negotiations , as their ceasefire negotiations, as he said his sons died when a car they were driving in was targeted in gaza . the tech giant targeted in gaza. the tech giant apple has been accused of anti—semitic millom after displaying the palestinian flag instead of the israeli flag.

when users type in the capital jerusalem , some users with jerusalem, some users with devices running on the latest software for the iphone have noficed software for the iphone have noticed the prompt in their predictive text function, not every user sees it, particularly those with older phones . that's those with older phones. that's the news. for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts. scan the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. com slash alerts. >> thank you polly. now we're starting this hour with the shocking story of a bulgarian organised crime gang has fleeced british taxpayers out of an astonishing £54 million in what's being called britain's biggest ever benefit fraud. there they are on your screen now . prosecutors said the gang now. prosecutors said the gang treated the benefit system like a cash machine to fund their own lavish lifestyle . well, join me lavish lifestyle. well, join me now. in our studio in westminster is the former

detective superintendent at the metropolitan police. shabnam chowdhury , thanks for joining chowdhury, thanks for joining us.shab chowdhury, thanks for joining us. shab them. you were telling me came on that you me before we came on that you think this is merely the tip of the iceberg? yeah very, very likely. >> i think you know what these criminals do is. and this is a really slick, organised criminal network, a gang of people who, fortunately have been convicted . fortunately have been convicted. but how they start there would be they'd operate initially. they'd do some very small scams, very small, fraudulent transactions. and then once they know that they can get through the net with whatever it is that they need fraudulent , tenancy they need fraudulent, tenancy agreements, all sorts of documents and so on, then what they'll do is they'll hammer it. they people set up three benefits factories without being caught by the benefits office to begin with. so quite slick, not so clever because they clearly didn't plan ahead or once they'd get caught and they had a significant amount of evidence stashed away at their home addresses, including large amounts of cash. >> but it still begs the

question if such an industrial scale of fraud was going on with such an industrial scale of fake documents, how was it spotted sooner? >> well, i think that if you look at what's been going on with the benefits office in the last couple of years, and this is a really good conviction and a good result. but 11 a really good result. but 11 billion fraudulent uses in the last two years actually is an indication that the system is there to be, flouted. there are flaws in that process which allows criminals to get through allows criminals to get through a lot of those will probably be individual fraudulent cases , but individual fraudulent cases, but there will be a significant amount of those. and i suspect the benefit office is now looking very, very carefully at a of the claims that they a number of the claims that they get coming through. >> the answer to this? do >> what's the answer to this? do we just need more fraud officers? we need heavier officers? do we need heavier sentences ? we more sentences? do we need more coppers boot through coppers putting the boot through the well , if you look the >> well, if you look at the sentencing for this particular crime, up to, i think, sentencing for this particular crmaximum up to, i think, sentencing for this particular crmaximum of up to, i think, sentencing for this particular crmaximum of tento, i think, sentencing for this particular crmaximum of ten years.iink, when a maximum of ten years. and when you've these individuals, you've got these individuals, five of have pleaded five of them have pleaded guilty, is guilty, the likelihood is

they'll a significantly they'll get a significantly lower and then get lower sentence, and then you get thousands people that will thousands of people that will fraudulently fraud the benefits office who get no sentences whatsoever. the prisons are overflowing as it is. i doubt very much that a judge is going to be interested in, putting these convicted criminals away, and no doubt they could squirrel and no doubt they could squirrel a bit of this dosh away . a bit of this dosh away. >> and it really makes you believe it would seem to an organised gang like this. it's a crime that's it's worth taking that risk. >> yeah, well, there's a saying within policing that i would never forget and that is hit them where it hurts. and that's them where it hurts. and that's the they the pocket. so if they can actually those actually confiscate those sorts of, money them , of, amounts of money from them, that would be far more significant than a prison sentence for them . sentence for them. >> okay. thanks. join me in the studio. who, >> okay. thanks. join me in the stlcourse, who, >> okay. thanks. join me in the stlcourse, was who, >> okay. thanks. join me in the stlcourse, was a who, >> okay. thanks. join me in the stlcourse, was a former who, of course, was a former detective the detective superintendent at the metropolitan you detective superintendent at the metrmuchan you detective superintendent at the metrmuch .1 you detective superintendent at the metrmuch . now, you detective superintendent at the metrmuch . now, labour you detective superintendent at the metrmuch . now, labour is you detective superintendent at the metrmuch . now, labour is also very much. now, labour is also accusing of leaving accusing the tories of leaving criminals to steal with impunity. and the opposition party is challenging the government over its shoplifters charter , which they say prevents charter, which they say prevents police from investigating lower

value thefts. this comes as abusive shoplifters face tougher punishments. at long last, and assaulting a shopkeeper will be made a standalone criminal offence, which could lead to six months in prison. well, the prime minister hopes this new action will crack down on retail crime and protect uk high streets. but will it? well, the shadow minister for policing , shadow minister for policing, alex norris, joins me now. alex, welcome to show . always welcome to the show. always a pleasure. so yvette cooper was critical of this idea earlier, basically saying the tories seem to have nicked a labour party policy again . policy again. >> yeah. martin, thanks for having me. yes, it was . it's having me. yes, it was. it's something that i've been pushing myself in parliament for five and a half years, and i've been told no by dozens of ministers. >> well, five home secretaries, six police ministers, as recently as, as february, they voted against my latest proposal for it. but it's been introduced or it's been committed to. it's

not before time in, during the penod not before time in, during the period i've raised it, i'm afraid incidences have tripled. >> that is the legacy that the government has on this issue. but we want them to get on with it and we want them to make this stand offence real. stand alone offence real. >> wonder, though , >> it makes you wonder, though, if actual teeth. i've if it has any actual teeth. i've been police mates been contacted by police mates of mine during the show who say that the laws are already there. for example, the assaults on nhs care workers is a specific case and it simply doesn't work. it hasn't driven down crimes against emergency workers at all, and oftentimes magistrates are reluctant to impose custodial offences anyhow because the jails are full. is this all just posturing ? this all just posturing? >> it's definitely not posturing. >> happily, we can point to, you know, a relevant example. this has been in force in scotland now for a couple of years, and we have seen it used we have seen it used as a deterrent, but also used as, as an offence for people to be arrested to and go through the justice system on. >> so, you know, we believe it will be effective, but it only

works if you have that neighbourhood policing staff that that mean that you can make sure arrests are being made. >> at the moment we've got 10,000 fewer neighbourhood police officers. >> why we've made our >> that's why we've made our commitment around more commitment around 13,000 more police commitment around 13,000 more polso the having the law is an >> so the having the law is an important part of it. but we also need the enforcement too. >> i think many people would welcome the sight of more bobbies on the beat on high streets. in fact, the labour streets. and in fact, the labour party plans party rolling out plans to regenerate streets at the regenerate high streets at the moment. how important do you believe high streets are? i mean, people walk around mean, many people walk around their home towns, their home cities see decay around cities and see that decay around them and it makes them feel that they're part that , too. it they're a part of that, too. it sends a message that our sends out a message that our town centres don't matter. you talked about business rates also for regeneration. what kind of plans will the labour party have to make sure that the high streets and that don't just attract thieves, but they attract thieves, but they attract who to attract the public who want to go yeah, martin. it's quite it's >> yeah, martin. it's quite it's a universal message. i go round the in my role as shadow the country in my role as shadow policing minister and talk to

people they about people about how they feel about their community, and one of those universal themes that those universal themes is that people they're , you people think that they're, you know, their community. know, they love their community. >> they're proud of it. >> they're proud of it. >> hear anyone >> they won't hear anyone else talk talk down. they talk that talk it down. but they have feel that things have they they feel that things have they they feel that things have in, have become tired uninvested in, but that they've but also a sense that they've lost control of them and that those that minority of people who choose to do the wrong thing, get away with thing, will they get away with it and those who do the right thing get a good deal. thing don't get a good deal. and i we to change i think we need to change that. more they're more polices are start. they're finding balance. more polices are start. they're fin(sol balance. more polices are start. they're fin(so that balance. more polices are start. they're fin(so that bricks lance. more polices are start. they're fin(so that bricks and e. more polices are start. they're fin(so that bricks and mortar >> so that bricks and mortar retail can can compete and can thrive in a in a changing economy where there's vacancies, something that really upsets people . people. >> vacant sites. well, let's give the community the opportunity to buy it and to put it to community uses. so really, you know, think some really you know, we think some really meaty there that could meaty things there that could help our streets help turn our high streets around, we there's around, which we know there's huge public for. >> it's a great idea on paper, but we take £25 billion a year. alex in business rates, 51% goes to the local government. the

rest to central government. if you simply slash taxes, where will all the money come from? >> well, as i say, you know , and >> well, as i say, you know, and you've heard me say on your show before, martin, get before, martin, you'll get a fully balanced, budget and manifesto get the manifesto when we get to the election. we're we've been very clear that there won't be unfunded everything we unfunded tax cuts. everything we offer will be funded down to the penny. you know, we think there is. you find a fairer is. you can find a fairer balance, between bricks balance, perhaps, between bricks and on online and mortar. and on the online space. know, i say, space. but, you know, as i say, when to that election, when we get to that election, you'll it funded to the you'll see it funded to the penny financial penny because financial responsibility so important. penny because financial res|superb.ty so important. penny because financial res|superb. well,o important. penny because financial res|superb. well, thanks tant. penny because financial res|superb. well, thanks fort. >> superb. well, thanks for joining minister for joining us, shadow minister for policing alex norris and many people will people watching this will no doubt be delighted hear there doubt be delighted to hear there are reinvigorate are plans to reinvigorate british high streets. thanks for joining us on show. always joining us on the show. always a pleasure have your company. joining us on the show. always a pleazmovingiave your company. joining us on the show. always a pleazmoving on. your company. joining us on the show. always a pleazmoving on. british ompany. joining us on the show. always a pleazmoving on. british energy. now moving on. british energy company on quest will start drilling the north sea's biggest oil field discovered in the past 20 years. well, with the potential to produce around 500 million barrels of crude oil in the coming decades. and this

comes despite pressure on fossil fuel firms to cut back on oil and gas production. well, i'm joined now by gb news economics and business editor liam halligan with on the money . halligan with on the money. liam, always a pleasure to have you on the show . liam, always a pleasure to have you on the show. no liam, always a pleasure to have you on the show . no doubt liam, always a pleasure to have you on the show. no doubt you'd be singing hosannas over this because we've been saying for a long time, despite what the eco zealots say, the reality is we still need oil and gas. why not make it british? >> i think that's exactly right, martin. i do think there's a bit more, shall we say, realism, now , imposing itself on the debate over the north sea, the official position of the tories is that the windfall tax is going to stay in place until 2028, 29, 75% tax on the profits of companies that drill for oil and gas on the north sea and labour. they want a proper windfall tax. so what's that 80, 90, i don't

know, but the reality is that drilling is still going on. not least because we do need lots of oil and gas. let's have a look at some of those numbers just before we start talking about this new oil field that's going to by the british to be drilled by the british firm as you say. the firm enquest, as you say. so the uk has about 300 active north sea oil and gas fields, over half those will cease production by 2030. the north sea provides something like 83% of the oil that we use, and 54% of the gas we use. it's still hugely important , we use. it's still hugely important, even though we are a net energy importer now, and fossil fuels, oil and gas account for when you include cars and vans. 75% of all the energy that we use in the uk, martin and even the climate change commission, the in—house government watchdog on all things green, acknowledges that

even if their renewable targets are met and they're very ambitious targets, we're still going to rely on oil and gas for 25 to 30% of our energy needs by 2050, so we need that oil and gas , and that's why it's good gas, and that's why it's good news, actually, in my view, that this new british company inquest is going to be drilling in the nonh is going to be drilling in the north sea and the and the field that we're talking about here, it could provide over the next decade , 500 million barrels of decade, 500 million barrels of crude oil. how much is 500 million barrels of crude oil? well, the uk say the whole of our economy uses 1.5 million barrels of crude oil, a day. the world as a whole uses about 100 million barrels of crude oil a day. and this one field in the uk could produce 500 million barrels. so it's certainly worth having . and there's some having. and there's some interesting politics about this, martin. it's not only just ordinary folk, not least gb news viewers and listeners starting

to say, look, we, you know , we to say, look, we, you know, we like the fact that the environment needs to improve . we environment needs to improve. we want to leave a good, nice world for our kids and grandkids , but for our kids and grandkids, but you can't bankrupt us in the process. you're starting to see some of realism imposing itself on this green debate. now but also some more political realism . in scotland, you know, the snp, its views on north sea oil and gas are more, you know , and gas are more, you know, restrictive than even labour's views in many ways. and you have many, many, you know, hundreds of thousands of people who are in trade unions, who work in the oil and gas industry, not just in the north sea, but up and down the country, are oil and gas complex is a big part of our economy, and a lot of those workers are in trade unions, and they are telling the labour party in no uncertain terms, it doesn't make any sense for us or for the country to completely ban new drilling in the north sea, which is what labour's

current position is, i suspect, for reasons both big politics and small p politics. plus as we see more of the true costs of net zero in terms of pounds, shillings and pence on the lives of ordinary folk across the uk andindeed of ordinary folk across the uk and indeed across the world, i do think this debate will become more realistic. i'm not saying that we're going to abandon on, you know, the long term move away fuels, but i do away from fossil fuels, but i do think it's going to get conducted now at a more realistic pace. and a pace that many of our viewers and listeners would say is probably more responsible. >> absolutely. realism is what you channel and also common sense. liam halligan always a pleasure to have your take on the show. thank you very much. and lots on that and you get lots more on that story our website. and thanks story on our website. and thanks to gbnews.com is the to you. gbnews.com is the fastest growing national news website all the website in the country. all the breaking news and the best analysis you've come to expect from us at gb news. now coming up, the latest analysis on the

history making eu parliamentary votes to adopt wide ranging migration reform. and guess what? they're already revolting. i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel

welcome back to the show. it's 526 coming up to. i'm martin daubney. this is gb news. now we've got some really exciting breaking news for you here. there's been there has been a historic european historic vote by european lawmakers to revamp the bloc's migration system . and it would migration system. and it would mean cutting the length of time for security and asylum procedures and increase returns of migrants to reduce unwanted immigration from the middle east and africa. at least that's what it's intended is. it's also designed to disperse those who arrive via asylum, often illegally, to the member states .

illegally, to the member states. on the coastal side, greece and italy, feeling overwhelmed by the numbers they're taking. so a dispersal scheme was a part of this, as well as a deterrent, they're meant to be detention possibilities and also quicker deportation. but the hugely contentious point, and one which i know for a fact will become central to the forthcoming european elections, is that quota that you must take your percentile fair share of those arriving illegally. this legislation does not stop the boats. rather it disperses the asylum seekers and straight off the bat, within half an hour of this, votes coming through , this, votes coming through, we've got the first dramatic moment of controversy . and it's moment of controversy. and it's this prime minister, donald tusk of poland has said poland will not accept a european immigration immigration relocation mechanism , despite it relocation mechanism, despite it being approved in that historic

vote in brussels by the european parliament just an hour ago. now, don't forget , donald tusk now, don't forget, donald tusk was a former president of the european commission between 2014 and 2019. many saw donald tusk as a stooge of brussels , as a stooge of brussels, somebody sent to do brussels bidding. he was recently elected the prime minister of poland . the prime minister of poland. many felt that would mean closer links to the european union . he links to the european union. he issued. he got rid of a more right wing conservative leader. tusk was seen as a liberal, as the solution to closer ties with the solution to closer ties with the eu. well, that has not happened at the first opportunity. just to repeat that breaking news, prime minister of poland donald tusk , he said that poland donald tusk, he said that poland donald tusk, he said that poland will not accept a european union immigrant relocation mechanism despite it being democratically voted

through in the eu. there are a great number of abstentions. we believe we're getting the full breakdown of that vote shortly. emmanuel macron wanted this to go through. he was doing a big ring around, in fact. in fact , ring around, in fact. in fact, macron phoned tusk and implored donald tusk, as we understand it, from my insiders in brussels trying to get his meps to abstain from this vote, to get it to go through irrespective of what happened. now, donald tusk has said that poland will not accept this. that puts poland on accept this. that puts poland on a collision course with brussels. this is hugely dramatic. this is reminiscent of brexit. but they're basically saying in poland we will not adhere to a vote in the european union. we will not accept our share of the relocations of asylum seekers . this is the asylum seekers. this is the tough line. now, if you recall, poland has been singly tough on

its borders and one time put up bob wire along its border with belarus to keep people out. suspected terrorists. it's had a very, very tough line on control of its borders . prime minister of its borders. prime minister donald tusk was seen as somebody more, more aligned with the free movement, with the schengen, with the european directive on that. straight away, he has not he has defied the european union. we'll have more details on this as it emerges. but this is a hugely symptomatic , hugely is a hugely symptomatic, hugely controversial moment in european history. donald tusk has stood against european union , saying against european union, saying he will not accept this vote. poland is standing against the union. what does that mean for a potential exit poll exit ? call potential exit poll exit? call it what you want. will they go for less integration , more for less integration, more nafion for less integration, more nation states coming first. we've seen a big backlash from the right's marine le pen in france as saying we will fight on this issue at the next

election. eurosceptic mp , mep election. eurosceptic mp, mep candidates in these elections are sure to make huge, huge issues and make hay out of this. that's quite the story. there's lots more still to come between now and 6:00, including blasphemous crisps. yes. stay tuned for more. but first, here's your latest news headunes here's your latest news headlines and it's polly middlehurst. >> and the top stories this houn >> and the top stories this hour. children's gender care in the nhs has been based on weak evidence and has been branded scandalous by the shadow health secretary after the publication of a new study, the cass review says children are being let down by remarkably weak evidence and calls for gender services for young people to match the standards of other care in the nhs . labour's wes streeting said nhs. labour's wes streeting said children have been let down by a lack of research and evidence, saying the report is an important piece of work which has raised serious concerns. the

report said the toxicity of the debate around gender issues has meant professionals have been too afraid to openly discuss their medical concerns. the former chairman of the post office mediation scheme has described the wrongful prosecution of subpostmasters by the office as the greatest the post office as the greatest scandal i have ever seen, and has called for a re—evaluation of the entire justice system , of the entire justice system, sir anthony hooper told the honzon sir anthony hooper told the horizon it inquiry we've had many miscarriages of justice, but nowhere as many as these. we now need to re—evaluate how we approach criminal cases of this kind, and i don't envy the chairman's task in trying to find out how it all started. something he said went very, very wrong. in other news today, assaulting a shop worker will be made a separate criminal offence in a government u—turn in response to a surge in retail crime. it's after a report found violent and abusive incidents against shop workers rose by 50% from 2022 to 23. the government

had previously said it didn't think a change in the law was needed. but today rishi sunak announced the government would be amending its criminal justice bill to bring in the new offence. a new home office figures show £4.3 billion worth of britain's overseas aid budget was spent on housing, refugees and asylum seekers last year, £8 million was spent every day on tens of thousands of asylum seekers staying in hotels who are waiting for alternative housing. james cleverly says 150 migrant hotels will now close by may and will be returned to their local communities. may and will be returned to their local communities . the their local communities. the government says they've reduced the number of asylum seekers from 2000 to 800 as well, staying at raf scampton in lincolnshire after concerns from local people there. those are your top stories for the latest news do sign up to gb news alerts. scan the qr code on your screen right now or go to gb news alerts. news .com/ alerts. >> for a valuable legacy your

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i >> -- >> wow. welcome back. it's 538. i'm martin daubney on gb news, and we've got some more breaking news for you now. we just said a moment ago, donald tusk, the poush moment ago, donald tusk, the polish prime minister, has sensationally rejected the eu's migration and asylum pact that was voted through this afternoon in brussels . and we can bring in brussels. and we can bring you some more breaking news now. and that is hungary has followed suit. in fact, the international spokesman for the cabinet office of the hungarian prime minister has just put this on twitter. in fact, it's so fresh. i'm literally calling up as we speak. he is saying, we will not accept this deal. emphasising hungary's refusal to compromise on border security and under any pressure or european parliament decision , then our nine year decision, then our nine year defence of the eu's and the schengen area's external borders, despite a lack of support and continuous pressure from brussels to relinquish cultural and identity protection

plans. so we have now poland and hungary within half an hour of this vote going through, saying they will not adhere to it. we are looking folks at a full scale eu wide member state revolt. they are saying they will not take this on board. and of course, this scheme would mean member states taking the allocation decided by brussels of asylum seekers arriving to member state borders without say. and poland and hungary have already said no. they will not do that. quite a dramatic story and this will be developing throughout the show and the rest of the evening. i'm sure we'll bnng of the evening. i'm sure we'll bring that full update as they come in. now a change of tone. has jesus christ been reduced to a crisp? well, that's the claim of a group of italian catholics who've expressed their anger at the holy communion, was swapped out for crisps and a tv advert. an association of italian catholics has described the

advert as blasphemous and have called it for it to be withdrawn immediately, adding that it showed a total lack of respect for italy's practising catholics. and who better to discuss this than the associate editor of the catholic herald, doctor gavin ashenden? welcome to the show, gavin. so if you've seen the advert, it shows, nuns at holy communion taking a crisp instead of the holy sacrament, catholics are up in arms about it. is that the right thing to do, or should they get a sense of humour? >> oh no. we have a wonderful sense of humour. the gospels are full jesus telling and full of jesus telling jokes, and we're very much in favour of humour because humour brings down pompous and pompous powerful people. >> isn't humour, this >> but this isn't humour, this is . this is a hate crime, this is. this is a hate crime, this is. this is a hate crime, this is something that's right at the heart what believe as catholics. >> and it's so precious to us that the mockery of it is , is as that the mockery of it is, is as deeply offensive as one could imagine. >> it is the equivalent of

drawing rude cartoons of muhammad, why should it always be that christians can be mocked , but everybody else is entitled to some degree of dignity ? try, to some degree of dignity? try, try mocking muhammad in iran or saudi arabia and see and tell him it's a bit of irreverence. try mocking them . the communist try mocking them. the communist party in china and see if they think they have a sense of humour. try mocking putin in russia on the grounds that you're just being humorous. why should crimes that should the hate crimes that aimed at christians be the only should the hate crimes that aime that christians be the only should the hate crimes that aime that people ns be the only should the hate crimes that aime that people are e the only should the hate crimes that aime that people are exempt|ly should the hate crimes that aime that people are exempt from ones that people are exempt from being responsible for? it's really offensive and really profoundly offensive and it should be stopped. >> you know, doctor ashenden, i think you hit the nail on the head there. it's always expected, oh, you know, you're only a christian. from the life of brian onwards, we can we can mock and mock the religion. and of course, deal that. course, a great deal of that. doctor ashenden has been taken on the chin. we can all be sensible about it. but you're absolutely what, absolutely dead, right? what, chris? planet for chris? company on the planet for example, would dare to make an advert about chris. say, for example, why don't you break your ramadan fast by having one

of crisps? happen of these crisps? wouldn't happen , would they? >> would they mock gay marriage? i don't think they would. it's always christianity. and the trouble it's not just a trouble is that it's not just a matter of us being offended, though. we are deeply offended . though. we are deeply offended. it's like somebody sitting on a tree the branch off. tree and sawing the branch off. they're on. the they're sitting on. so the examples earlier were examples i gave earlier were not just attempt to show what just an attempt to show what outrage what trouble outrage will what trouble outrage will what trouble outrage you into . the outrage will get you into. the fact is that the only reason this can happen in europe is because christian because we have a christian atmosphere are atmosphere in which people are free to express themselves. but if you destroy the very foundation upon which christian, upon which human freedom has been built, then you might lose the freedom. you don't have the freedom. and you don't have freedom in iran, china or russia. so don't knock the christian culture, which has produced the very freedom that this chris company are abusing. >> and gavin, the italian bishops conference responded by saying, jesus christ reduced to a crisp, debase and vilified just as he was over 2000 years

ago , and went on to say that the ago, and went on to say that the snack company was spitting on the memory of christ, just as the memory of christ, just as the roman soldiers did to him before his crucifixion . is that before his crucifixion. is that correct, or is that a bit strong? >> no , it's absolutely correct, >> no, it's absolutely correct, and as christians will turn the other cheek, we won't hate these people. we won't dehumanise them in return. we'll love them and understand they're trying to make money out of their product. but we will object in the most profound and vigorous way. we won't even bomb their offices, nor we, nor we will assassinate them with with terrorism. we will just object in a profound way and ask them to rethink again, and maybe to study european and christian history so that they realise that the privileges that they're abusing, if they continue to abuse, may be lost forever. and that will be lost forever. and that will be shame for us all. be lost forever. and that will be forthright,r us all. be lost forever. and that will be forthright, frankll. be lost forever. and that will be forthright, frank and fair as >> forthright, frank and fair as even >> forthright, frank and fair as ever. thank you very much for joining us on the show this afternoon. that's doctor afternoon. and that's doctor gavin associate gavin ashenden, the associate editor the catholic herald. editor of the catholic herald. it's always pleasure it's always a pleasure to have you show. thank you very

you on the show. thank you very much. go anywhere much. now don't go anywhere because up next, we'll be discussing your worst nightmare. well, certainly my worst nightmare. is our pubs nightmare. and that is our pubs are under threat due to rising energy and high interest energy costs and high interest rates. i might be crying into my beer over this one. i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's

welcome back. 547. now, a father has been jailed for life for the minimum terms of 22 years for murdering his four week old baby. ollie davis was pronounced dead after being found lifeless in his cot in october 2017. i'm joined now for an update with our east midlands reporter, will hollis. will welcome to the show deeply, deeply harrowing story. what's the latest ? the latest? >> yes. well, just to give you anidea >> yes. well, just to give you an idea of the severity of the injuries inflicted upon four week old ollie davis.

>> the judge, who was sentencing today at loughborough magistrates court described them as similar to a victim of a high energy car crash. a broken neck, 23 broken ribs, fractures to his skull and collarbone. really devastating and harrowing details. but today this is ultimately the culmination of a six year investigation by leicestershire police. the sentencing here for murder of ollie davis. >> michael davis, 22 years, a minimum in prison. >> his partner, the mother of ollie davis, kaylee driver, sentenced to seven years. she was found guilty not for murder but for causing or allowing the death of a child . well, today death of a child. well, today here, sitting at loughborough magistrates court, the judge, justice cotter, said to kaylee driver you must have heard ollie's cries after he was assaulted as you were together in the bedroom. this must have

woken you up to michael davis, justice cotter said that, justice cotter said that, justice cotter said you have shown callous indifference by opting not to summon medical help. the judge described how he was sure that it was michael davis inflicting the injuries dunng davis inflicting the injuries during violent episodes at their home in leicester in 2017. six years worth of investigation on leicestershire police, as part because of the complexity of those injuries. >> speaking after the sentencing today , mark parish said that at today, mark parish said that at the heart of this complex investigation, this is the detective inspector has always been to try to get justice for ollie . ollie. >> okay. east midlands reporter will hollis , thank you very much will hollis, thank you very much for joining us. give us that forjoining us. give us that update and rest in peace. ollie davis, what can you say now ? davis, what can you say now? around 4500 pubs face closure as britain's biggest pub chain stonewater battles with over £2 billion in accrued debts . this

billion in accrued debts. this comes as hundreds of independent, beloved boozers also face closure, with many battling with high energy bills, soaring interest rates and the ongoing cost of living crisis. well, join me now to discuss this is hugh osmond, who's the founder of punch taverns, and hugh, a superb, outspoken, brave and fact driven voice during covid lockdowns. very very few spoke out so formidably on the plight of the british hospitality industry. so hats off to you for that. what do you make of this latest piece of news? is this last orders for stonegate, or is it actually maybe a much needed break up of some of the bigger chains ? some of the bigger chains? >> i doubt it will be the end of stonegate , you got to remember stonegate, you got to remember that with the stonegate, unlike some pub companies, they do own all the freeholds of their pub, their pubs , so it probably isn't their pubs, so it probably isn't quite as serious as it looks

from the outside. but having said that , it pubs and said that, it pubs and hospitality in general have not been enjoying a very good for years, probably after two decades when uk hospitality went from being a bit of a joke on the global stage to one of the leaders as not just in pubs but across the board, with its restaurants and hotels and pubs and everything, then suddenly from 2020 onwards, it's been a very, very hard time for hospitality and we're losing a lot of venues, you know, not just pubs, restaurants, cafes , just pubs, restaurants, cafes, all sorts of venues are really struggling at the moment, without a doubt. >> and hugh, we can't take the beloved british pub for granted, can we? it's been , as you say, can we? it's been, as you say, mullered during lockdowns, every single point of contact is taxed heavily , be it booze, duty, be

heavily, be it booze, duty, be it fuel duty, be it vat, be it business rates , you're a man business rates, you're a man with solutions. what should be done about this ? done about this? >> well, i think i think it's , >> well, i think i think it's, as you say, that everything in the cost side has gone up recently , pretty much. and, in recently, pretty much. and, in not just the cost you mentioned, i mean, the cost of food, the cost of drink cost utilities, as you say, but also the cost of wages. and the only thing that hasn't gone up is the number of customers available. and and pubs and, and other venues simply haven't been able to pass on the full cost increases that they've suffered in terms of food and drink. and as a result, they're getting squeezed . and, they're getting squeezed. and, you know, margins aren't as big net of everything in the hospitality industry as people probably think. so it doesn't if all your cost input prices move up five, ten, 20% and your sales

can't move up the same way, you go very rapidly from making a profit to a loss. so i think there is a case. i mean, i'm not a big fan of asking government for handouts , but in in this for handouts, but in in this case, they've been a big part of the problem. you know, really the problem. you know, really the industry hasn't come back from covid. it i thought to myself that at 2022, things would bounce back pretty quickly. but because we were immediately followed by that massive bout of inflation, significant increases in the minimum wage, i'm not not that i'm against paying people decent wages. i'd love us to be a high wages. i'd love us to be a high wage , high skill economy, you wage, high skill economy, you know, more like switzerland . but know, more like switzerland. but it all came together in, in big increase in the minimum wage, this massive bout of inflation straight on the back of two years of intermittent closures .

years of intermittent closures. and the industry is really suffering. so i think that perhaps on this occasion there is a case for government in intervening in, perhaps in the tax area, you know, vat or, right . right. >> okay. thank you very much for joining us, hugh osmond. i'm afraid we have to leave it there. founder of punch taverns. now, quick reminder. eu is now, a quick reminder. the eu is revolting. poland and hungary now, a quick reminder. the eu is revoltboth poland and hungary now, a quick reminder. the eu is revoltboth refusedind hungary now, a quick reminder. the eu is revoltboth refusedindacceptiry now, a quick reminder. the eu is revoltboth refusedind accept the have both refused to accept the results of the migration and asylum voted through today asylum pact, voted through today in the eu. the european union is revolting and we'll have more on that later, no doubt. dewbs & co. that later, no doubt. dewbs& co. but first, here's your weather with shuttleworth . with annie shuttleworth. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar , the sponsors of weather solar, the sponsors of weather on . gb news. on. gb news. >> good afternoon. welcome to your latest gb news weather update. there's going to be a lot of cloud around for the rest of the day, but it will start to

feel quite a milder, feel quite a lot milder, particularly overnight. there's still heavy to still some further heavy rain to come, across come, particularly across northwestern areas. that's where that weather warnings force. that weather warnings in force. that's weather that's because these weather fronts continue to into fronts continue to push into these areas, they will these areas, but they will slowly sink southwards slowly start to sink southwards throughout evening. throughout this evening. so there's rain there's some further heavy rain to , particularly for to come, particularly for western northwestern western scotland, northwestern england, . but england, parts of cumbria. but overnight tonight that rain band is sink southwards into is going to sink southwards into wales, parts of midlands. wales, parts of the midlands. and it reaches the and then once it reaches the south of england, well, south coast of england, well, that's for that's where it will stay for much thursday . further north, much of thursday. further north, though, it's going to a much though, it's going to be a much dner though, it's going to be a much drier start. but drier and brighter start. but with brisk southwesterly winds and going to and that mild air, it's going to be start to the day be a very mild start to the day tomorrow. actually tomorrow. and actually it's going be a pretty dry and going to be a pretty dry and bright day, particularly for northern and eastern areas of the uk, northeastern areas of scotland, the east coast of northern england as well, and later on the southeast. we'll see a lot of dry and see quite a lot of dry and bright weather, and it'll feel quite in sunshine . but quite warm in that sunshine. but further south, though, across the coast it's going to be further south, though, across timuch coast it's going to be further south, though, across timuch cloudiert's going to be further south, though, across timuch cloudier day.oing to be further south, though, across timuch cloudier day. a1g to be further south, though, across timuch cloudier day. a bito be a much cloudier day. a bit cooler but fairly cooler here, but still fairly humid outbreaks of

humid with some outbreaks of drizzly rain through day. drizzly rain through the day. overnight night, overnight on thursday night, this area of rain will push into parts northern ireland parts of northern ireland and then scotland later on on then into scotland later on on friday, be another friday, so it'll be another fairly day for much of the fairly wet day for much of the northwest. further south, though, should stay fairly though, it should stay fairly dry and bright through friday, and stay on milder and it should stay on the milder side of things as well. looking ahead weekend, further ahead to the weekend, further rain northwest, rain arrives into the northwest, but should stay dry the but it should stay dry in the south. that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers , sponsors of from boxt boilers, sponsors of weather on

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blockers used no real blockers being used with no real understanding of what the long time impact ever was. also that gender ideology was overruling pretty much everything else. i'm asking you, will this finally be asking you, will this finally be a watershed moment? will sanity finally be restored , or will finally be restored, or will nothing actually change? also tonight , the echr have ruled tonight, the echr have ruled that governments have a duty to protect us. people from climate change after a group of women in switzerland successfully claimed that doing so was breach that not doing so was a breach of their human rights. do you agree with that or not? also, let me ask you this. do you think being working class is the biggest barrier to career success or not? and last but not least, get this the baby boomers have been described as the luckiest generation in history. are they or . not? yes, indeed. are they or. not? yes, indeed. we've got all of that to come and more over the next hour. massive response to that cast reviewer . we're speaking to reviewer. we're speaking to juue reviewer. we're speaking to

julie bindel as well, imminently.