sensationally rejected the european union's new migration and asylum bill that fines member states astonishing ,20,000 for every asylum seeker they refuse to take. >> man heart of >> our man in the heart of brussels will bring us up to speed. >> could slovakia be next? >> could slovakia be next? >> meanwhile, there's more chaos for rishi sunak as boris johnson put the boot into the pm, while in canada on the topics of defence, smoking and the spirit of this man, winston churchill. >> when i look at some of the things that were, were, were doing now, i think that are being done in the name of conservatism. i think they're absolutely, absolutely nuts. and >> it's all going absolutely nuts. could harry and william finally bury the hatchet? i don't mean between each of the shoulder blades, because it's rumoured that king charles could end up being the peacemaker. that's all coming up in your next hour . once a show.

next hour. once a show. always an absolute pleasure to have your company. so a 239% increase in homelessness among asylum seekers. the big question is why should we pick up the tab ? so in should we pick up the tab? so in these two instances, either they've been granted the right to remain, in which case they could always get a job. you know, that's what the rest of us have do pay way. or have to do and pay their way. or if been granted the if they haven't been granted the right why don't right to remain, why don't they just deported? right to remain, why don't they justthoseeported? right to remain, why don't they justthose are ted? right to remain, why don't they justthose are the people that >> those are the people that we're paying for an additional £600 million this year, £43 billion in total. >> i'm saying is enough. enough? should we have a huge debate about this ? yes, we should, and about this? yes, we should, and it's coming on this show. and as usual, i'd like to hear from you. and there's a new way to get with you can get in touch with us. you can send and post your send your views and post your comments gbnews.com. comments by visiting gbnews.com. forward slash your say. you'll see that i'm logged in. you reply to me, i get them here. i read out the best ones during the keep clean. the show. keep them clean. but before it's time before all of that, it's time for headlines for your latest news headlines

and wenzler . and it's sophia wenzler. >> thank you martin. good afternoon . it's 3:02. i'm sophia afternoon. it's 3:02. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom . your wenzler in the gb newsroom. your top story this hour. the prime minister says the plan is working as new nhs figures show hospital waiting lists in england have fallen for a fifth month in a row. over england have fallen for a fifth month in a row . over 305,000 month in a row. over 305,000 people have been waiting more than a year to start routine hospital treatment. at the end of february. that's down from 321,000 at the end of january. the government and nhs england have pledged to eliminate all waiting lists of more than a year by march of next year. rishi sunak said there's more to be done. >> well, when i became prime minister, i said that cutting waiting lists was one of my five priorities and whilst we haven't made progress as i would made as much progress as i would have liked, today's figures show that we are making headway towards that goal over the last five months, a reduction of

around 200,000 in the overall waiting list, which is positive . waiting list, which is positive. and if it wasn't for industrial action, an extra 430,000 patients would have been treated . so whilst there's of course a lot more work to do, the plan is working and nearly half of workers have spent time looking atjobs workers have spent time looking at jobs outside the nhs, according to new analysis . according to new analysis. >> researchers have found around 47% have looked at employment outside the nhs, with 14% applying for non nhs jobs between march and june last yeah between march and june last year. it's understood stress, workload , staff shortages and workload, staff shortages and pay workload, staff shortages and pay are the top reasons for staff leaving the nhs. in other news, a man has been remanded in custody after being charged with murdering a woman who was stabbed to death in the city as she walked her baby in a pram. 25 year old habiba moazzam stood in the fronted dock as he in the glass fronted dock as he was told by the judge he will appear again at bradford crown court tomorrow. he spoke only to confirm and date of

confirm his name and date of birth and address during the six minute long hearing, 27 year old kulsoom akhtar died after being stabbed in bradford on saturday afternoon, june . a moroccan afternoon, june. a moroccan asylum seeker on trial for the murder of a pensioner told police he was motivated by the conflict in gaza. 45 year old ahmed ali denies murdering 70 year old terence carney in hartlepool town centre, as well as the attempted murder of his housemate javid nouri. he says he carried out the attack as an act of revenge for what he says. israel killing children in palestinian conflict. he is also accused of assaulting two female police officers who had interviewed him after his arrest. hundreds of tata steel workers are set to go on strike over the proposed closure of port talbot blast furnaces. around 1500 steel workers based in port talbot and clamwin in south wales have voted for industrial action over the company's plan to close its

furnaces , resulting in the furnaces, resulting in the potential loss of 2800 jobs. it's the first time in over 40 years that port talbot steelworkers have gone on strike. institutional bias prevented further investigation of complaints made by subpostmasters about the post office horizon it system. former post office managing director david smith has been giving evidence today to the inquiry into the horizon it scandal between 1999 and 2015, more than 900 sub postmasters were prosecuted due to the faulty system. mr smith also apologised for a 2010 email saying a pregnant subpostmasters prison sentence was brilliant. news and the royal mail says it's working to remove counterfeit stamps from circulation after reports of fake ones . it follows calls of fake ones. it follows calls from gb news for royal mail to investigate its systems. after an investigation, the telegraph reported china is flooding britain with counterfeit royal

mail stamps as small retailers are buying forgeries online. it's understood that the fakes were causing a rise in complaints that stamps bought from legitimate stores were being deemed fraudulent, which can result in a £5 penalty. some members of the public gave their thoughts on the issue. >> awful, but this is what happens. >> there's a lot of counterfeit , >> there's a lot of counterfeit, items right across the patch. really so it doesn't surprise me, but i don't know whether there's anything that can be done at the borders. >> dreadful. really dreadful situation in just an addition to everything else that's going wrong in the world. >> well, i don't use stamps very often, to be perfectly honest . often, to be perfectly honest. >> it's. >> so it's. >> so it's. >> i did see the difference >> but i did see the difference between the real and the counterfeit. >> and, you know, you'd be hard pressed to see it, wouldn't you ? pressed to see it, wouldn't you? >> and a once a day migraine pill has been recommended on the nhs, with a charity claiming it could change the lives of thousands. the pill, sold under the brand name akua, has been

given the green light for nhs use under new final draft guidance. anyone who experiences at least four migraines a month and has tried at least three other methods but found no relief, will be eligible . and relief, will be eligible. and for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen, or go to gbnews.com alerts. now it's back to . it's back to. martin. >> okay, we've got loads of guests looking to, so let's get cracking and we start with yet more news broken asylum more news on our broken asylum system and the number of homeless asylum seekers seeking urgent housing from english councils is increased by a shocking 239, according to a new report . now, charities have report. now, charities have slammed what they call a dysfunctional system that is leaving people on streets, in tents as council housing services struggle to cope with the influx of migrants and the

government's sky high. asylum backlog well, to chew this over, i'm now joined in the studio by gb news political correspondent, olivia utley immigration olivia utley and immigration lawyer show , lawyer and friend of the show, ivan sampson. so let's start with you, olivier . so this ivan sampson. so let's start with you, olivier. so this has become a political hot potato. these new figures on the surface are pretty eyebrow raising . and are pretty eyebrow raising. and then you understand the circumstances of why they are having their, free hotels . let's having their, free hotels. let's be blunt, terminated. who are the people that are being put out of hotels? and according to this report, made homeless? >> well, what's so fascinating about this report from refuge , about this report from refuge, the homelessness charity, is that buried in the report itself, it says that actually 90% of these people who have been made homeless are people who have received a positive asylum , decision. so these are asylum, decision. so these are people who have been legally granted the right to live and work in the uk. now, i think quite a lot of people watching

might feel as though if you have been given leave to live and work in the uk, then it is surely upon your head to find yourself some accommodation in which to live. essentially, these people are in the same position as as you or i. they have the right to live in the uk . what refuge is arguing and perhaps it could be perhaps you know it could be seen as a fair argument, is that they don't have very long in which to find somewhere to live from. when decision is made, from. when the decision is made, they have 28 days before they are kicked out of a hotel. and because the paperwork can all take quite a while, there are some stories of migrants who only get seven days between getting the request and finding somewhere to live. but long term. of course, cannot have term. of course, you cannot have asylum seekers who have been granted right to live in the uk, so legal , granted right to live in the uk, so legal, migrants living semi—permanently in home office hotels. the cost of those home office hotels is absolutely phenomenal. phenomenal. millions and millions every year from the british taxpayer. political vie.

this is quite interesting because james cleverly has said that by the end of may, he wants to see 150 these hotels to see 150 of these hotels closed to migrants, and eventually the government has a plan close down all of these plan to close down all of these hotels for migrant use. well, that's to be that's not going to be particularly easy. if refuge is publishing showing that publishing reports showing that the number of migrants who've been made homeless the last been made homeless over the last couple has increased by couple of years has increased by 239, the government in 239, puts the government in quite a sticky position. >> great stuff. >> great stuff. >> ivan, let's turn to you now. that's astonishing. so 90% of the people who this report are claiming are destitute could get a job. they could claim benefits , they could get on social housing lists. why is this british taxpayers problem? >> well, look, if i gave you 28 days to find another job, find another accommodation, i think you'll struggle. >> i think olivier said something . some of them are something. some of them are given less than seven days. >> problem is that they >> so the problem is that they need a transitional period from when are granted asylum and when they are granted asylum and being supported under the

national asylum support scheme, and to when they come off that to help them to get jobs. >> because look , nobody wants >> because look, nobody wants it's not a lifestyle choice to be homeless , so no, but it's a be homeless, so no, but it's a lifestyle choice to come across in a dinghy, indeed. >> but we're talking about people who've been granted asylum and have a legal right to remain in the uk. >> so they if they haven't got a job, if they have, if they don't have, if they're not vulnerable and wouldn't automatically be granted emergency accommodation by the council, they're going to end up living on the streets if they've got nobody else. >> remember, these are the >> and remember, these are the most to most vulnerable people coming to our they. >> are they. >> are they. >> because i wonder, is >> well, because i wonder, is there anything about the particular demographic of people who are most likely to be asylum seekers? let's be honest. you know, military age men, men of a certain age, single men , certain age, single men, oftentimes they won't get special treatment on social housing lists, will they? no. >> look, we always want to blame lawyers. they're judges. they're asylum seekers, anyone. but the

thing is, the whole system is managed by the home office. and what it shows is not proper planning. the reason you're getting these spikes? because the home office are not planning for, a transition for those granted asylum to get jobs. i mean, look, they could be offered some sort of work experience apprentice scheme. there needs to be a minister responsible for getting those granted asylum into work. the other problem is those that are not granted asylum , two thirds not granted asylum, two thirds of those are not removed. >> yeah. they go into a perpetual loop of applying against it of, of but the point is this , right. if 10% of those is this, right. if 10% of those people if you said 90% are legally allowed, say, 10% aren't allowed to stay, why are they just deported , a lot of them just deported, a lot of them don't have identity documents or they come from countries where we don't have reciprocal arrangements to remove them there. countries, for there. so countries, for example, is a good example

example, syria is a good example .even example, syria is a good example . even if you you say you're syrian, you're not accepted as syrian, you're not accepted as syrian and you're you are then refused. where do send you refused. where do we send you to? we don't know where some of these people actually come from . these people actually come from. there's no arrangements for them to we have to do to be removed. so we have to do something about this problem. >> libya . >> libya. >> libya. >> what do you make of labour's policy on this? because what labour has said is that it will employ an extra. i think it's 1000 caseworkers home 1000 caseworkers in the home office help with issues like office to help with issues like this. do you reckon that would office to help with issues like this. [the ou reckon that would office to help with issues like this. [the problem, that would office to help with issues like this. [the problem, orat would office to help with issues like this. [the problem, or do nould office to help with issues like this. [the problem, or do youd solve the problem, or do you think a problem think it's more a problem of leadership? spoken think it's more a problem of le'conservatives spoken think it's more a problem of le'conservatives who spoken think it's more a problem of le'conservatives who say spoken think it's more a problem of le'conservatives who say the ken to conservatives who say the last thing we need is more pen pushers. what do you think? it's a but what a bit of both, but what they need makers. >> look , 50% of refusals are >> look, 50% of refusals are overturned by the courts. well, that tells you the decisions are flawed, and that's my experience of dealing with home office presenting officers in court or decisions which are a lot of them are cut and paste. i mean, you see fundamental errors in getting the country wrong or you can see what's going on. they're

just cutting and pasting decisions and not really properly looking at the each individual case, we need properly trained people to make these decisions. and i think you have better decisions and more people being approved or refused. but again, planning the key is proper planning. >> your your ideas of let's have a task force to get these people in work. let's have a task force to houses but we to find them. houses but we don't for british don't do that for british people. are people. i think people are starting to ask the question 600 million last year, £43 million extra. last year, £43 billion on housing, asylum seekers. we have a system which might not be perfect. if you are granted the right to remain now, that's take that's when you take responsibility for your own life. surely you can't just rely ad infinitum on the british taxpayer to house you? >> i agree, but the point is >> no, i agree, but the point is to get them working, paying taxes, and getting into the system . because if you look system. because if you look at these that have these asylum seekers that have come last 20 years, come in in the last 20 years, they've very successful they've been very successful integrating, jobs, integrating, getting jobs, starting businesses. and so the answer must be to get them part

of the economic system into the community. not to say, well, good luck . here's the door. off good luck. here's the door. off you go. good luck. hope you find a job because they're ending up on the streets and that's not working. have lots of job vacancies. >> so much so we're actually importing more people legally on visas. you know why can't we integrate these people? you know, i mean, for example, in picking crops or things like that, look, there's lots of jobs and i agree they should be working, but you're comparing asylum seekers with british people with support system, people with a support system, with don't have that. >> they've had free accommodation for a year, they've had free food. >> they've, they've taken care of the taxpayer for year. of by the taxpayer for a year. >> signed that. so >> we're signed up to that. so they're getting anything. >> we're signed up to that. so they're not getting anything. >> we're signed up to that. so they're not entitledinything. >> we're signed up to that. so they're not entitled to thing. >> we're signed up to that. so they're not entitled to .1ing. >> we're signed up to that. so they're not entitled to . if g. >> we're signed up to that. so they're not entitled to . if you they're not entitled to. if you don't like it, come out the asylum, you know, come the asylum, you know, come out the refugee vote an asylum, you know, come out the ref|that vote an asylum, you know, come out the ref|that wants vote an asylum, you know, come out the ref|that wants to vote an asylum, you know, come out the ref|that wants to do rote an asylum, you know, come out the ref|that wants to do that. an asylum, you know, come out the ref|that wants to do that. but| mp that wants to do that. but don't complain when they're getting obliged getting what we're obliged to give thank you very much. >> okay. thank you very much. superb conversation. olivia utley immigration lawyer utley and immigration lawyer ivan sampson, always a pleasure to both in the studio.

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welcome back. it's 321. i'm martin daubney , and this is gb martin daubney, and this is gb news. thanks for joining martin daubney, and this is gb news. thanks forjoining me. now later in the show, i'll be joined by the man who set up a website just for clever people called trevor . website just for clever people called trevor. he's one clever trevor, and i'll have him on the show . now boris johnson has show. now boris johnson has reignited his feud with rishi sunak by calling one of his flagship policies absolute nuts. the prime minister wants to increase the minimum age for buying tobacco every year in efforts to phase out smoking, but it's fair to say boris isn't impressed. >> look at some of the things that were, were, were doing now, i think, or that are being done in the name of conservatism. i think they're absolutely, absolutely nuts. and banning cigars and what what is i mean, maybe, maybe you all think that's a great idea. i just can't i can't see what what is the banning a the the point of banning with a the

party churchill wants party of winston churchill wants to mean, donny , donny and to ban, i mean, donny, donny and break, as they say in quebec, you know, it's just it's just it's just mad. >> well that's bosa on fine form. and boris didn't just criticise that government policy. he also said the uk needs to spend more on defence. >> this is the moment for an even more robust posture and i think that goes for my country as well. i think we all need to recognise that the world is more uncertain, dangerous . we uncertain, more dangerous. we all need, frankly, to be spending more on defence. and thatis spending more on defence. and that is that goes for the uk as well as everybody else . well as everybody else. >> there we go, boris on the world stage, causing trouble as even world stage, causing trouble as ever, and to pick the bones out of all that. i'm joined in our studio by our political editor christopher hope. chris, boris. he's back, he's landing the blows . he's causing chaos. let's blows. he's causing chaos. let's start with the comment on smoking. a lot of people may

agree with him. yeah, nothing he ever says. ever des. >> ever says. >> hi, martin. good to see you in the studio. nothing ever says is by accident. next tuesday, mps vote on the tobacco and vapes bill and lots of the tory right are looking to rebel on that. it's idea was put that. it's an idea which was put forward by the pm rishi sunak, at his conservative party conference last year. they wonder why on earth are we banning that an banning things? and that was an idea johnson idea which, in the boris johnson way saying, there way he was saying, say there will be a big rebellion on tuesday about the ban on on smoking. and of course, don't forget it's a complicated ban that 15 you can't that that if you're 15 you can't buy know, as it goes buy them, you know, as it goes and the age increases as you go through so why why is this through life. so why why is this government banning things and the it was briefed that it the time it was briefed that it was it was rishi sunak's version of gay marriage. it was a point of gay marriage. it was a point of his legacy of conscience. maybe his legacy planning , of conscience. maybe his legacy planning, because certainly no tory mps were telling we tory mps were telling me we should banned smoking should ban banned smoking effectively before that conference. >> so boris effectively seems to be managing the revolt from outside. it's typical boris and

that smoking rule. you're right, it's so confusing. you need a fag just concentrate to think fag just to concentrate to think about it. let's about about it. let's talk about defence lot of defence now. again, a lot of people on the right of the party have need to rev have been saying we need to rev up spending . we're up defence spending. we're falling leading up defence spending. we're fall charge leading up defence spending. we're fall charge again leading up defence spending. we're fall charge again on leading up defence spending. we're fall charge again on thatiing up defence spending. we're fall charge again on that one. the charge again on that one. >> i mean few would disagree that the on the right of the tory party that the budget must see must increase. so he's basically saying these things in canada hours of the canada in the early hours of the morning , just being helpful morning, just not being helpful at rishi at all to his successor, rishi sunak at the hope for the party is that they can get boris johnson back on side , and he johnson back on side, and he campaigns sunak campaigns with rishi sunak to try on many seats try and hang on to as many seats as they can won in 2019. whether that we'll wait and see. >> now where's streeting? you've been speaking to him, he's been in the news. he's talking about reforming the saying , reforming the nhs and saying, wow, you conservatives wow, you know the conservatives normally would do. he's also been hot water doing been a bit of hot water doing a u—turn his trans comments. u—turn on his trans comments. what have you got to tell us? >> yeah, wes streeting is interesting. he's one of the most interesting, i think, labour he the labour mps for many, he was the candidate for the labour party who was meant to be the next

prime minister. tory prime minister. but the tory party quickly that party imploded so quickly that keir has left in keir starmer has been left in that position . but wes that pole position. but wes streeting interesting. streeting is interesting. i asked a gb news would asked him for a gb news would you, would you want would you allow the private sector to clear this waiting list? 7.5 million waiting for million people waiting for operations down a bit. so the pm says down every for the past five months, but still quite a lot . a lot of people in pain, in lot. a lot of people in pain, in discomfort, waiting service . discomfort, waiting for service. they're paying for their taxes. and yeah, why not? so and he says, yeah, why not? so he's making very clear that labour themselves at labour would put themselves at the centre of the need of the patient. i think that's where the are quite clever. the politics are quite clever. here's had say. the politics are quite clever. heri�*s had say. the politics are quite clever. heri think had say. the politics are quite clever. heri think peopled say. the politics are quite clever. heri think people can say. the politics are quite clever. heri think people can see that >> i think people can see that i'm prepared to put people's noses joint to do the noses out of joint to do the right thing. when it comes to patients getting people seen faster . i've been accused, faster. i've been accused, chris, you know, have chris, as you know, people have seen recent days and weeks seen in recent days and weeks and months actually, of wanting to nhs over my to privatise the nhs over my dead body would be privatise the nhs. i think one of the best things about it that it's a things about it is that it's a pubuc things about it is that it's a public and that when you public service and that when you fall have

fall ill, you don't have to worry about but we've worry about the bill. but we've got in private sector spare got in the private sector spare capacity, who can afford capacity, those who can afford it are paying to go private. they are being seen faster. working class people who can't afford left behind . afford it are being left behind. and so what i'd say to my critics let those people critics is you let those people in the eye and you tell them that prepared to see them that you're prepared to see them wait longer because of your left wing i don't think wing principles. i don't think that's right. i'm prepared to take those arguments do take on those arguments and do the right thing patients, the right thing by patients, because to because i came into politics to help people from working class backgrounds make help people from working class backeveryone make help people from working class backeveryone in make help people from working class backeveryone in this make help people from working class backeveryone in this countryake sure everyone in this country gets a fair crack. and that's what a labour government do i >> -- >> you know what strikes me about that, chris? i've heard nigel farage say exactly the same thing. go poshy private, relieve the burden, incentivise it to those who can afford it , it to those who can afford it, relieving the pressure on the working classes. that's a common sense have a two tier sense policy. we have a two tier health service. >> afford to pay >> those who can afford to pay go >> those who can afford to pay 9° 9° >> those who can afford to pay go go private. and he's go private, go private. and he's he's he's he's recognising that. he's saying the best by the saying i will do the best by the patient. and that's why i think makes so dangerous. i makes him so dangerous. and i think party the

think the labour party has the permission in permission to reform the nhs. in a the tory party doesn't. a way, the tory party doesn't. the tory party is in constant the tory party is in a constant defensive on health defensive crouch on health policy because it's not trusted with despite increasing with nhs. despite increasing spending so much over recent years. spending so much over recent yeawell, makes good on >> well, if it makes good on that, an early that, that will be an early headune that, that will be an early headline now then, that, that will be an early headlinebrady now then, that, that will be an early headlinebrady is now then, that, that will be an early headlinebrady is releasing n, that, that will be an early headlinebrady is releasing a graham brady is releasing a book, the most important man you never heard of. >> and why should you? or outside of the westminster bubble? he's the bubble? certainly he's the chairman of the 1922 committee of mps for all of the of mps, tory mps for all of the past tory, 14 years of the tories being in power. he's got a book out called kingmaker secrets, lies and the truth about five prime ministers, because when they've been deposed and he's been at the heart of collecting letters of no confidence, going over a threshold, announcing it will be a so it goes on. a vote. and so it goes on. interestingly for me, though, the book, the book which you knew coming, now knew we knew was coming, we now have it is out on have the title of it is out on november 7th. now i think november the 7th. now i think the election is going to be november avoid. so november the 21st to avoid. so any money raised the party any money raised in the party conference, party conference, the tory party doesn't in election doesn't count in election spending. that happens, spending. if that happens, this

book be dynamite. at the book will be dynamite. at the heart of what i expect to be the general campaign . general election campaign. >> sir graham >> now, you know, sir graham brady, him brady, you've interviewed him a bunch . do you think bunch of times. do you think he'll put the knife in? will this salacious ? will there be this be salacious? will there be lots smoke or it be very lots of smoke or will it be very queensberry rules? >> talking >> no knives. you're talking about and caesar. >> no knives. you're talking about you and caesar. >> no knives. you're talking about you mentioned caesar. >> no knives. you're talking about you mentioned knives? no when you mentioned knives? no knives. but i think what he will do is interestingly say, do is, is interestingly say, when this was happening, i had 25 in 30, 40 letters in. 25 letters in 30, 40 letters in. so he would he one idea he has looked at in the past is telling us what was going behind the us what was going on behind the scenes we all write, or how many letters have of no letters have gone in of no confidence leader's . only letters have gone in of no corknows.�* leader's . only letters have gone in of no corknows.�* perhaps s . only letters have gone in of no corknows.�* perhaps he only letters have gone in of no corknows.�* perhaps he might he knows. well, perhaps he might tell first what he tell for the first time what he knew. be fascinating. >> and the thing about having overseen prime ministers overseen so many prime ministers because, of course, it's been rather chaotic. he will have the inside line on all of those end games, those dramatic sort of final days of prime minister and those, in many ways, are the most fascinating periods. >> and he used to walk off >> and when he used to walk off number the number 10 and go through the back door, the front door, what's interesting is what's interesting about him is he frontbench roles

he turned down frontbench roles to be this role, to be this chairman of the 1922 committee, because that is as important in his world as being a minister. i think he's proved over past think he's proved over the past 14 don't think there 14 years. you don't think there could be room for another 1922 committee? >> all those numbers of letters going through and seeing rishi sunak? >> well, rumours of before >> well, the rumours of before there could six prime there could be six prime ministers there could be six prime mirwell, could be, this is >> well, it could be, this is the tory party. we're talking about. the tory party. we're talking about . rumours of 40 gone in. about. rumours of 40 gone in. i'm not sure you're going i'm not sure when you're going to know more, to get there. we'll know more, probably after the local elections. watch elections. martin, watch this space. chris o'shea. space. superb chris o'shea. >> ever. thanks >> excellent as ever. thanks for joining studio . now joining me in the studio. now there's lots more still to come joining me in the studio. now there's linow|ore still to come joining me in the studio. now there's l thanks, martin. it's 330. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb

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stabbed in bradford on saturday afternoon . a change to family afternoon. a change to family visa rules comes into force today as part of the government's plan to reduce immigration. it's part of the home secretary's promise to transform the uk's immigration system, cut unfair levels of migration and ensure those arriving here are not a burden to the taxpayer . the measure to the taxpayer. the measure will see the minimum income for family visas rise by more than £10,000 to £29,000, an increase of more than 55, and a new poll suggests rishi sunak and other high profile tories could keep their seats because of voter id confusion in the next general election. a poll by campaign group best for britain found 16% of people did not know that they would need photo id to vote in the upcoming local and general elections. government passed elections. the government passed the legislation in 2022, with the legislation in 2022, with the new rules coming into force last year . and for the latest last year. and for the latest stories, sign up to gb news

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they will not accept migrants from eu states. they dug in and now they're on a collision course with brussels . and let's course with brussels. and let's cross straight now to brussels and speak with journalist and expert on the ground, jack parekh. jack, we watched the votes here live on the show yesterday with huge fascination, it scrambled through , but within it scrambled through, but within moments donald tusk of course, a former european commission president himself said no, they would not accept it quickly followed by hungary. the eu is at a huge impasse. will other nafion at a huge impasse. will other nation states follow ? so he was nation states follow? so he was a former european council president, donald tusk, and he indeed, what's interesting about him is he's super pro—eu eu him is that he's super pro—eu eu as having taken that job. but even him as a polish prime minister now, he's not really in the same political line with the hunganan the same political line with the hungarian prime minister, viktor orban. but this issue is so

contentious in countries like poland and hungary that you're right. they immediately came out and said that they wouldn't accept migrants under this system . having said that, they system. having said that, they have it within the have agreed to it within the sort of negotiations that got it all the way up until this point in the european parliament, as you said, it was a knife edge vote. >> it was so close and they needed to approve all ten pieces of legislation, a piece of legislation related to detention, for instance, another one related to the transfer of migrants, another one to set up a database. >> they were all interlinked and they all needed to pass. if the pact was going to be approved. now, many of the meps that voted in favour of some parts voted against other parts, depending on their political leaning. >> it was extremely close. it was a good bit of political theatre, martin, but most people , i think, that i spoke to that walked away from that vote. >> well, they feel they got it over line. over the line. >> still aren't >> many of them still aren't completely content with what

this to and this pact is going to mean. and as a number of as you say, a number of governments already saying they won't they won't won't be involved and they won't approve certain aspects of it. and, member states and, jack, many member states saying, why should we take allocations of asylum seekers to our country if the eu simply cannot control its seafaring borders? while of course, greece and italy, who have been inundated with numbers, would like to see the numbers dissipated across the member state. the big question now, though , jack, looking forward, though, jack, looking forward, of course we're looking the of course we're looking down the barrels hugely significant barrels of hugely significant european elections, elections european elections, eu elections coming up in june. we've already seen parties in france across the bloc saying they're going to make hay out of this issue. the eurosceptic vote could surge as a consequence. yeah. what's really interesting about this, martin, is that people that are sort of anti—immigration and want to prevent immigration into the european union aren't really happy with the deal because it doesn't have much it doesn't have too much in it about returns to country of origin. it does have quite

stringent measures about detention on the eu's external borders. and so parties on the left that consider themselves more pro—human rights and want to take a slightly softer line. they're not very happy about that. like i said , a lot of that. like i said, a lot of people that voted in favour of certain aspects of this deal aren't happy with it. overall, the hard right and the hard left abstained on or voted against many of the aspects of the deal. there was quite an interesting moment during the votes, martin, where protesters moment during the votes, martin, where up protesters moment during the votes, martin, where up and protesters moment during the votes, martin, where up and said)rotesters moment during the votes, martin, where up and said vote ;ters moment during the votes, martin, where up and said vote no s stood up and said vote no against this deal, kill the pact . this pact kills, i think, was their chance and chance and the far left meps got up and congratulated them. it was a big sort of scene that happened and they tried to charge through these votes to make sure they got it before the vote, martin, just as a bit of context to this, there was it was a number cruncher. it was like watching house of or something . all house of cards or something. all of the different political factions out factions were trying to find out whether of the different whether each of the different angles would be to get angles would be able to get enough the

enough votes to get it over the line. it exciting. the deal, line. it was exciting. the deal, you approved. you know, is now approved. important to say that when it relates to the june elections, martin, this pact won't actually come into enforcement until 2026. so while the people that have tried to push it over the line want it to be a vote swinger, nothing really changes before the elections . but it before the elections. but it will matter to those political parties who are saying, we didn't vote for this as a nation. a few meps voted for it. they don't represent millions and millions of voters . why and millions of voters. why should people in france accept the consequences of meps from all over the shop? and i think they will make hay over this. marine le pen has already said that she will. and president macron, we heard yesterday, was frantically ringing around to try and get donald tusk's meps to abstain to get this over the line. so clearly this is a matter of huge significance within the political bloc . within the political bloc. >> it is exactly that.

>> it is exactly that. >> but it's politics, not the practical implementation of the changes of this deal. >> so all of the different political factions will try and sell it, that they either won or they're fighting against this. when it comes to june's elections. but voters aren't when it comes to june's electi> but the overwhelming numbers are the eu elections. are ahead of the eu elections. is that the centrist bloc that got over the line is likely got this over the line is likely to retain most of the majority in elections .

in the elections. >> it's all to play for in june. we'll to wait and how we'll have to wait and see how that are hearing, that falls out. are you hearing, as we that, slovakia are as we did that, slovakia are eyeing what poland and hungary did. and you're right, it is politics. but posturing and playing tough against the eu lands well domestically, particularly when it's about political survival. who would have thought that the rebel in the midst would be donald tusk ? the midst would be donald tusk? >> yeah, i mean, that's that's kind of the big surprise in the other leaders have tried to get him board. other leaders have tried to get hinlike board. other leaders have tried to get hinlike boar say, there's >> like you say, there's grumblings in different countries forinstance, countries, for instance, czechia, slovakia. countries, for instance, czec reason slovakia. countries, for instance, czecreason being slovakia. countries, for instance, czec reason being with'>lovakia. countries, for instance, czecreason being with poland. countries, for instance, czecreason being with poland as the reason being with poland as well is because this deal doesn't really , according to doesn't really, according to them, take into account the hundreds of thousands of ukrainians, in fact, millions of ukrainians, in fact, millions of ukrainians entered the ukrainians who've entered the european union. but that's done on a different system. it's not international protection like someone from afghanistan or syria look for. it's, as syria might look for. it's, as you know, martin, extremely complex. and the politics gets played around it. the institutions of the european union are saying, listen, this

deal , though, does actually deal, though, does actually prevent us and give us much, much more ability to prevent people entering the european union . okay. super—suv jack union. okay. super—suv jack parekh, as i've got to say, yesterday , i actually missed yesterday, i actually missed being in brussels for the first time because i love it when there's bedlam over there. jack time because i love it when there's ithankn over there. jack time because i love it when there's [thank you er there. jack time because i love it when there's [thank you forhere. jack time because i love it when there's [thank you forjoining ck time because i love it when the given1ank you for joining ck time because i love it when the given that you for joining ck time because i love it when the given that excellentining ck us. given that excellent comprehensive update on the situation brussels . comprehensive update on the situation brussels. now, comprehensive update on the situation brussels . now, the situation in brussels. now, the controversy over fake royal mail stamps just won't go away. and now a senior tory mp says china is behind the chaos. well, i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel

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of course, tried for murder, and that infamous car chase scene, which captivated the world's media prior to his arrest. we'll have much more reaction to this breaking news story throughout the show. oj simpson has died at the show. oj simpson has died at the age of 76. it says here he succumbed to his battle with cancer and in his family statement, it says he was surrounded by his children and his grandchildren during this time of transition, his family asks that you please respect their wishes for privacy and grace. of course, he was tried for murder in october 1995. it was dubbed the trial of the century. he was found not guilty of murdering two people. that's a breaking news story and we'll have a full update throughout the show and full reaction now to the latest development . in to the latest development. in a story that gb news broke in january and now former conservative party leader iain duncan smith claims china is behind the huge number of

postage stamps that are circulating in the uk that are fake . now, as i said, this was fake. now, as i said, this was all kicked off by a gb news investigation and that was by jessica helden and we found that people are being fined £5 to receive their post because the royal mail says that stamps that have been bought at post offices are actually fake. well, i'm joined in the studio by that woman, jessica sheldon, our digital finance editor, who broke that story. well done . broke that story. well done. this story just keeps rolling and rolling and rolling. and now and rolling and rolling. and now a former prime minister has got involved. blames china. do involved. he blames china. do you think that's true or is that a red herring? well i think it's very interesting because i think there's two elements to this story. >> we have seen stamps which you wouldn't realise are fake, but when you compare them to genuine stamps, they do look, counterfeit . some hold them up counterfeit. some hold them up to the screen now, and you wouldn't know necessarily until you look at them. the barcode is

flat, the colour is slightly different. >> which ones are the fake and which ones are real? >> have counterfeit >> here we have some counterfeit ones ones. and ones here, the larger ones. and then genuine stamps. >> they just look the same. >> they just look the same. >> really hard spot . >> it's really hard to spot. yeah.i >> it's really hard to spot. yeah. i couldn't tell the difference between them. now royal , buy royal mail say you know, buy your a reputable your stamps from a reputable place. were on place. now these were bought on an online marketplace, we've an online marketplace, but we've also heard of problems with people buying stamps from post office and post office stores and well known supermarkets as well, and they're being told that their stamps are counterfeit . so we are hoping counterfeit. so we are hoping for some answers on that front as well. >> why on earth would the chinese, if they're going to try and disrupt , chinese, if they're going to try and disrupt, you chinese, if they're going to try and disrupt , you know, the and disrupt, you know, the british they british society? why would they do dodgy stamps? >> well, certainly it's a puzzle . i mean, it's very expensive for people who are getting just a card or a christmas card, perhaps. and they are having to pay perhaps. and they are having to pay £5 for it. but we need some more answers. i suppose . yeah. more answers. i suppose. yeah. >> and ian duncan smith is

calling this an act of economic warfare and akin to printing counterfeit money. of course, it is causing chaos. you've been contacted by quite a few gb news viewers who've had problems with these dodgy stems. >> yeah, absolutely , last week >> yeah, absolutely, last week we interviewed a lady who had , we interviewed a lady who had, actually found that the stamp that her son was charged £5 for because it was supposedly counterfeit was in fact genuine. and royal mail apologised . and, and royal mail apologised. and, in a letter to her, they said that the stamp had been rechecked by their team and confirmed to be genuine , and confirmed to be genuine, and they said that they were therefore very. they were therefore very. they were therefore wrong to apply the surcharge and very sorry that their had failed her on their actions had failed her on this occasion. >> okay. so that's great stuff. jessica howland, thank you very much. on a story that just keeps rolling and rolling. we have a comment for comment here. a spokesman for the royal mail said this. we are working hard to remove counterfeit stamps from circulation, and we regularly monitor online marketplaces to detect suspicious activity , such

detect suspicious activity, such as sales of heavily discounted stamps and work closely with retailers and law enforcement agencies to identify those who produce counterfeit stamps. we work closely with a number of police forces across the country, and in recent cases we have recovered stamps with a retail value of over £250,000. now a reminder of the story that broke a few minutes ago. oj simpson has died at the age of 76. we'll have full reaction after this . i'm martin daubney after this. i'm martin daubney on britain's news channel now. is your weather annie shuttleworth . shuttleworth. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hello. good afternoon. welcome to your latest gb news weather update. staying mild for the uk through the rest of the day and into friday too. but we will see some rain moving into the northwest . this weather

the northwest. this weather front that's have been affecting southern a few southern areas has created a few wiggles waves it, and wiggles and waves on it, and this push up into this wave will push up into northwestern areas through this evening. northern ireland evening. so northern ireland are likely some heavy bursts likely to see some heavy bursts of rain through the next few hours. before that, moves away into scotland, into western areas of scotland, northwestern cumbria in northwestern england, cumbria in particular like to see some heavier rain this evening further south, though it should remain the coast remain dry away from the coast and the hills. but it will and over the hills. but it will be a particularly cloudy night. however it will be another mild start on temperatures start on friday. temperatures not digits . not much below double digits. wherever you are the best of the sunshine thing be sunshine first thing will be restricted north—east restricted to the far north—east of scotland. further south across scotland it will be quite cloudy and wet through much of the day. also across parts of northern ireland, this area of northwest as well. northwest england as well. further for much further south, though for much of central southern england and wales, the cloud break up wales, the cloud will break up and will be some sunshine and there will be some sunshine by afternoon. it by the end of the afternoon. it will a little hazy, but it's will be a little hazy, but it's strong enough to pick temperatures up, put into the high teens, possibly low temperatures up, put into the high byzns, possibly low temperatures up, put into the high by friday ssibly low temperatures up, put into the high by friday afternoon low

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polly middlehurst. >> you're with gb news. >> you're with gb news. >> let's just confirm that breaking news coming to us in the last few minutes. the former american footballer oj simpson has at the age of has died of cancer at the age of 76. his family issued a statement saying he died surrounded by his children and grandchildren , and they asked grandchildren, and they asked for privacy. at this time of transition . oj simpson was transition. oj simpson was acquitted of killing his ex—wife nicole brown and her friend in 1994, in a trial that captivated the american public. an estimated 95 million people watched live tv coverage of the police pursuit of oj simpson in his white ford bronco across los angeles . o.j. his white ford bronco across los angeles . oj. simpson, who has angeles. oj. simpson, who has died at the age of 76. well, in other news, today , the prime other news, today, the prime minister says the plan is working as new nhs figures show hospital waiting lists in england have fallen for the fifth month in a row. over

305,000 people have been waiting more than a year to start routine hospital treatment at the february. down the end of february. that's down from just over 320,000 at the end of january . the government end of january. the government and nhs england have both pledged eliminate all waiting pledged to eliminate all waiting lists of more than a year by march year . lists of more than a year by march year. rishi sunak march next year. rishi sunak said there is more to be done . said there is more to be done. >> well, when i became prime minister, i said that cutting waiting lists was one of my five priorities and whilst we haven't made i would made as much progress as i would have show have liked, today's figures show that we are making headway towards that over the last towards that goal over the last five months, a reduction of around 200,000 in the overall waiting list, which is positive . waiting list, which is positive. and if it wasn't for industrial action, an extra 430,000 patients would have been treated so whilst there's of course a lot more work to do, the plan is working . working. >> nearly half of health service workers have spent time looking atjobs workers have spent time looking at jobs outside the nhs. researchers have found around 47% have looked at employment

outside the service, with 14% applying for non nhs jobs between march and june last year . it's understood job stress, workload, staff shortages and pay workload, staff shortages and pay are the top reasons for staff wanting to leave . a man staff wanting to leave. a man has been remanded in custody after being charged with murdering a woman who was fatally stabbed in yorkshire as she pushed her baby in a pram. 25 year old habiba masum will appearin 25 year old habiba masum will appear in court again in bradford tomorrow. speaking today only to confirm his name, date of birth and address during a short six minute hearing. 27 year old kulsoom akhtar died after being stabbed in bradford on afternoon. her baby on saturday afternoon. her baby was attack and was unharmed in the attack and a moroccan asylum seeker on trial for the murder of a pensioner in hartlepool told police he was motivated by the conflict in gaza. 45 year old ahmed al fayed denies murdering 70 year old terence carney, as well as the attempted murder of his

housemate javid nouri last october. he says he carried out the attacks as an act of revenge for israel's killing of children in the palestinian conflict. he's also accused of assaulting two female police officers who had interviewed him after his arrest . hundreds of tata steel arrest. hundreds of tata steel workers are set to go on strike over the proposed closure of port talbot's blast furnaces in wales. around 1500 steel workers based at port talbot and llanwern in south wales, have voted for industrial action over the company's plan to close its furnaces, resulting in the potential loss of 2800 jobs. it's the first time in over 40 years that port talbot steelworkers have gone on strike. an institutional bias prevented further investigation of complaints made by subpostmasters about the faulty post office horizon. it system. former post office managing director david smith has been giving evidence today to the

inquiry into the horizon it scandal. between 1999 and 2015, more than 900 subpostmasters were prosecuted because of the flawed software. mr smith apologised today for a 2010 email when he said about a pregnant subpostmistresses prison sentence that it was brilliant news. meanwhile, the royal mail is working to remove counterfeit stamps from circulation after an increase in reports of fakes being sold in shops and online, the telegraph reports. today, china is flooding britain with counterfeit royal mail stamps with small retailers buying forgeries online. it's understood that the fakes were causing a rise in complaints when stamps bought from legitimate stores were being deemed fraudulent , resulting in deemed fraudulent, resulting in a £5 fine. gb news asked shoppers in horsham in west sussex, what they thought about the problem. >> awful. but this is what happens. there's a lot of counterfeit, items right across

the patch, really, so it doesn't surprise me, but i don't know whether there's anything that can be done at the borders. >> dreadful . really dreadful >> dreadful. really dreadful situation. addition situation. just in addition to everything else that's going wrong in the world. >> well, i don't use stamps very often , to be perfectly honest. often, to be perfectly honest. so it's. >> t- e see the difference >> but i did see the difference between the real and the counterfeit. >> and , you know, you'd be hard >> and, you know, you'd be hard pressed to see it, wouldn't you ? pressed to see it, wouldn't you? >> now, once a day migraine pill has been recommended for use on the nhs , with the charity the nhs, with the charity claiming it could change the lives of thousands . the pill, lives of thousands. the pill, sold under the brand name akua, has been given the green light for nhs use under new final draft guidance. anyone who experiences at least four migraines a month and has tried at least three other methods of treatment but found no relief, will be eligible. that's the news for the latest stories, do sign up to gb news alerts. scan the qr code on your screen right now, go to gbnews.com alerts .

now, or go to gbnews.com alerts. >> thank you polly. and we start with this afternoon's breaking news. and oj simpson has died at the age of 76. his family has put the following statement on x, which of course was formerly known as twitter. they said on april the 10th, our father, a rental , james simpson, succumbed rental, james simpson, succumbed to his battle with cancer . rental, james simpson, succumbed to his battle with cancer. he was surrounded by his children and grandchildren and during this time of transition, his family asks that you please respect their wishes for privacy and grace now. oj simpson, of course, was one of the most famous people in all of america, a hugely respected american football and afl player who then went through a an astonishing fall from grace when he was charged with a double murder of his wife, his ex—wife nicole brown simpson, and her friend

ronald goldman, and he set off in that infamous car chase. you can see on your screens now can see on your screens flow across can see on your screens now across los angeles. that's him and his four bronco and 93 bronco helicopter went up above that. this was this was broadcast across the world. and the ensuing murder trial, which took place in october 1995, by the way , simpson was found not the way, simpson was found not guilty on both of those charges became what was called the trial of the century. it was for many, the first time in history we'd seen the inner workings of a murder trial live on television. for those who remember, it was a huge, huge global event. for those who remember, it was a huge, huge global event . the huge, huge global event. the forensic evidence was there. the entire trial on display. central evidence was, of course, a blood stained glove that was found on 0.1. stained glove that was found on o.j. simpson's property that was the primary piece of evidence used against him , but he was used against him, but he was acquitted on both counts , and acquitted on both counts, and then his life began to spiral

out of control, never publicly really recovered from the reputational damage of that trial. a spectacular rise and fall. the american dream going to tatters and all publicised on tv, making it the perfect in many senses , hollywood story. it many senses, hollywood story. it had everything. it had opulence. it had wealth, it had money, it had the downfall . now oj simpson had the downfall. now oj simpson passed away, died of cancer aged 76. and we'll have full reaction to that story throughout the show . now moving on to the show. now moving on to the latest on whether the uk will pull out of the european convention on human rights over the government's rwanda plan, andifs the government's rwanda plan, and it's claimed that 12 cabinet ministers, the ministers, including the chancellor of the exchequer and the home secretary, are against leaving the echr. but should we listen to them or listen to the electorate? well, i'm joined in our studio by our political correspondent, olivia utley olivia , how many times now have

olivia, how many times now have we heard that we're going to leave the echr oh no, you shouldn't. oh yes we should. in. out, shake about out, in. out. shake it all about . is there any gravitas in this latest well as you say, latest round? well as you say, i mean, this debate has been going on for years and years. >> the question now is whether rishi is beginning to, rishi sunak is beginning to, think at least about shifting government to leaving the government policy to leaving the echr. it couldn't be done in this parliament, but it could be something that the conservatives would put into their manifesto for the next election. now is he really thinking about it? well, the evidence that we've got is claire , who's a very claire coutinho, who's a very close ally of rishi and close ally of rishi sunak's and a friend, the energy a close friend, the energy secretary. came out secretary. she came out yesterday that that yesterday and said that that swiss european court ruling was concerning for britain. now lots of people in westminster read that as essentially coutinho sort of putting out some feelers to see how the conservative party and the country at large would react to the government making those kind of noises about the echr lots of

conservative backbenchers and 50% of 2019 conservative voters are for leaving the echr. but the cabinet ministers, by 2 to 1 would like to stay inside. so essentially, whichever route rishi sunak goes down, he's going to come up against a lot of opposition. >> and it's interesting when you look at the metrics. there was a poll week on should we poll this week on should we leave the echr? you never guess what 52% want to remain. it is like a new brexit. only 27% of the population , the electorate the population, the electorate in total actually want to leave. the rest are undecided . it seems the rest are undecided. it seems like a bit of a non—starter. and i like a bit of a non—starter. and [keep like a bit of a non—starter. and i keep saying we've had so many immigration lawyers on the show, olivia who say the echr isn't the problem. italy goes around the problem. italy goes around the echr, france goes around the echr routinely on on asylum, on border control. the problem isn't the echr the problem is having politicians with the guts to stand up to them. >> well , that is an argument. >> well, that is an argument. and there the argument and there is also the argument that quite a lot of the that actually quite a lot of the legislation in echr is legislation in the echr is

pretty replicated in our pretty much replicated in our own domestic human rights act. so it could be that even if we left the echr, britain would still find itself in exactly the same position . the difference, same position. the difference, of is that, if a if a of course, is that, if a if a party push on its manifesto that it wanted to say repeal the human rights act or completely reform the human rights act, then the country here, people in britain would get on britain would get to vote on whether or not they wanted to do that. course, doesn't that. of course, britain doesn't really say in echr law. really get a say in echr law. so, know, brexit supporters so, you know, brexit supporters would , even if those laws would say, even if those laws were essentially just transposed onto the british statute book, at least we would get the decision one way or another about whether to keep those laws in place . in place. >> well, should we stay or should we go? well, of course we're people's channel. we're the people's channel. and we're the people's channel. and we about in we were out and about in birmingham we we were out and about in birmirpeople we we were out and about in birmirpeople should wee asked people there should we leave yes i do, why is leave the echr? yes i do, why is that, because of, all their rules and regulations. yeah i mean, and we're a good country and we do all things good

anyway. >> no, i don't think he should, i think the reason for that is that, in terms of protecting human rights. >> so in terms of the government's responsibility to making sure that, all individuals are protected and groups. >> so, yeah, just making sure that everyone has a basic human right. >> we won't do it . >> we won't do it. >> we won't do it. >> we won't do it. >> we should have done it five years ago when we came out of brexit. nigel farage was absolutely right. why should a foreign government tell us what to do? >> like we should leave the. >> like we should leave the. >> absolutely not. i think everybody should be giving the opportunity to have a life or, you live the life you know you know, live the life you know better what you know. better than what you know. >> if they're stuck here, it's a better life, it? yeah, better life, isn't it? so yeah, i'm all it . i'm all for it. >> well, there we go. that goes of brexit. the public totally divided on the issue of leaving the echr olivia utley, thank you very much for joining the echr olivia utley, thank you very much forjoining me in the studio . now we'll have lots more studio. now we'll have lots more on whether we should leave the echr at 5:00, and there's plenty

of on our website gb of coverage on our website gb news. com and you've helped to make the fastest growing make it the fastest growing national news website in the country. so you very much . country. so thank you very much. now boris johnson has reignited his rishi sunak by his feud with rishi sunak by calling one of his flagship policies absolute nuts. the prime minister wants to increase the minimum age , of course, for the minimum age, of course, for buying tobacco every year in an effort to phase out smoking, but it's fair to say boris isn't impressed. >> look at some of the things that were were , were doing now, that were were, were doing now, i think that are being done in the name of conservatism . i the name of conservatism. i think they're absolutely, absolutely banning absolutely nuts. and banning cigars and what what is i mean, maybe, maybe you all think that's a great idea. i just can't i can't see what what is the point of banning the the point of banning with the party of winston churchill wants to ? i mean, donnie, donnie, to ban? i mean, donnie, donnie, moi and break, as they say in quebec, you know, it's just it's just it's just mad. >> well, had everything that winston churchill a little bit

of franglais thrown in at the end there. and i'm joined now by the political commentator benedict spence. benedict, welcome to the show. benedict, boris, on very, very good form as ever. but chris hope, our political editor earlier on was saying there's no coincidence in this because there could be a revolt on this tobacco bill next week . and boris johnson is week. and boris johnson is leading the charge on this from over the atlantic . over the atlantic. >> well, quite right too. >> well, quite right too. >> i mean, it is sort of slightly extraordinary that we exist in a very strange time where on the one hand, we're sort of edging towards prohibition on tobacco. but many people are also sort of pushing forward idea of legalising, forward the idea of legalising, narcotics marijuana . and, narcotics like marijuana. and, you know, you are sort of wondering, where are we going to end in a situation where our end up in a situation where our society effectively outlaws the use products? but but use of tobacco products? but but things are things like marijuana are effectively and effectively decriminalised and are absolutely fine. certainly if you walk around many of our major don't major cities, police don't respond to people using all manner respond to people using all ma do r respond to people using all ma do we really think that >> do we really think that there's going to be sort of any

massive benefit, therefore, to banning tobacco? >> i would have not, >> i would have thought not, because what will because eventually what will happenis because eventually what will happen is that the trade will just over by same just be taken over by the same criminal have profit, criminal gangs that have profit, profited think profited off drugs. but i think it's salient point, actually. >> we will have a bit of a laugh when boris talks you when boris talks about, you know, churchill and and know, churchill and cigars and all of and, all that sort of thing and, you know, isn't it amusing? >> but it's an interesting point, it? point, isn't it? >> b when we're >> because actually, when we're talking about what the talking about what are the dangers tobacco products talking about what are the dangers cancer, tobacco products talking about what are the dangers cancer, toba> a very tiny proportion of the amount of tobacco products that are smoked. and broadly speaking , actually, they're probably far less to have less likely to cause you to have some than some sort of cancer than cigarettes are because of the nature is that you nature of how it is that you ingest as the united ingest them. and as the united states if can states has found out, if you can put limits, put limits put limits, you can put limits on cigars say, cuba. on cigars from, say, cuba. >> that people >> that doesn't mean that people the of people who are the sorts of people who are likely are going likely to smoke cigars are going to getting around to have problems getting around those rules. >> it's a nonsensical proposal, those rules. >think, a nonsensical proposal, those rules. >think, but»nsensical proposal, those rules. >think, but benedict, proposal, those rules. >think, but benedict, what sal, i think, but benedict, what about the main events here? >> is irrespective of >> and that is irrespective of its cigars. winston churchill smoking all defence, boris johnson is putting the boot into

rishi sunak. how helpful or not is that at this moment in time? >> i mean, this is just entirely my perspective . i don't think my perspective. i don't think that rishi sunak has a prayer of leading the conservatives to a respectable general election result that could, of course, change. >> but where we're currently sitting, i don't think that's very likely. >> i think therefore it is not unhealthy to have a sort of a different poll, if you like, within the conservative party to proffer other ideas different proffer other ideas a different way of doing things, if anything, just to try to nudge rishi in a slightly more rishi sunak in a slightly more favourable direction. >> you might think favourable direction. >>boris you might think favourable direction. >>borisjohnson, you might think favourable direction. >> boris johnson, there night think favourable direction. >> boris johnson, there ls]hl think of boris johnson, there is certainly a cohort within the of boris johnson, there is certé party cohort within the of boris johnson, there is certé party that)rt within the of boris johnson, there is certé party that doesthin the of boris johnson, there is certé party that does look:he of boris johnson, there is certé party that does look back tory party that does look back wistfully and think, well, wouldn't it have wonderful wouldn't it have been wonderful if ? right now, if we still had him? right now, none actual sitting tory if we still had him? right now, none nobodyictual sitting tory if we still had him? right now, none nobody isual sitting tory if we still had him? right now, none nobody is prepared] tory if we still had him? right now, none nobody is prepared to dry if we still had him? right now, none nobody is prepared to put mps, nobody is prepared to put their head above the parapet and say, i'd good say, yes, i'd make a good alternative leader. so if it therefore falls form prime therefore falls to form a prime ministers, it david cameron ministers, be it david cameron on policy, or boris on foreign policy, or boris johnson sea johnson from across the sea to say , actually, look, is say, actually, look, this is nuts, don't nuts, the electorate don't necessarily are you necessarily want it. why are you doing this? seems to be the

doing this? that seems to be the best right now . best we have right now. >> yeah. totally agree ben spence, always pleasure . boris spence, always a pleasure. boris johnson acting like the leader over water. rishi sunak. over the water. rishi sunak. well no doubt smoke is coming out of his ears. ben well no doubt smoke is coming out of his ears . ben expense, out of his ears. ben expense, always a pleasure to have you on the show. forjoining us. the show. thanks forjoining us. now time now for the great now it's time now for the great british biggest british giveaway and our biggest prize so far, ten grand in cold hard , tax free cash, luxury hard, tax free cash, luxury travel items and also a ten grand all inclusive 2025 greek cruise. do you fancy the chance of trousering all that? well, here's how you could get on board. >> this is your chance to win our biggest prize of the year so far. first, there's a totally tax free £10,000 in cash for you to spend this summer. then we want to send you on a bespoke seven night small boat cruise for two worth £10,000. thanks to variety cruises, you'll be able to choose from any of their 2025 greek adventures and discover greece like never before. and with flights, meals, drinks and excursions included, all you have to do is relax. we'll also

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welcome back. it's 424. i'm martin daubney , and this is gb news. daubney, and this is gb news. now. later in the show, i'll discuss claims that king charles is hoping to play peacemaker between his two estranged sons and could william and harry finally bury the hatchet? and i don't mean between each other's shoulder blades . now for some shoulder blades. now for some good news. britain is now the world's fourth biggest exporter, overtaking france, netherlands and japan, which business secretary kemi badenoch says shows the uk punching above its weight on trade and this comes despite concerns that brexit would massively hinder international trade. well, a fantastic good news story and i'm joined now by gb news economics and business editor liam halligan with on the money . liam halligan with on the money. liam halligan with on the money. liam well to the show always an

absolute joy. i know you love a good news story and you know that i love a great story about post brexit britain. this liam is reason to be cheerful, isn't it? >> i think it is. martin. the uk has always been a very, very significant trading nation, and these latest figures from the united nations for various historic reasons. it's the un which produces the most widely used global trade figures , used global trade figures, demonstrate that britain is, as the trade secretary, says kemi badenoch, continuing to punch above its weight when it comes to sending its goods and services around the world. let's have a look at some of the details , so exporting britain is details, so exporting britain is now the fourth largest exporter in the world after china and the us and indeed germany. china and the us, of course, are massive economies compared to the uk. germany is also a bigger economy than the uk , and yet we're than the uk, and yet we're fourth in exporting after them. that's up from seventh in 2021,

according to those un numbers . according to those un numbers. numbers, i think it's fair to say that the recent growth in exports has been driven by professional services. that's what the official data shows . what the official data shows. that's things like financial services, legal services , services, legal services, insurance. a lot of the specialised stuff that the uk excels at also exports of things like education, pharmaceuticals , like education, pharmaceuticals, so we are still a very significant exporter. we're still a big manufacturer as well. martin, were there eighth biggest manufacturer in the world, but the one blot on the landscape of these figures, if i may , is that total goods exports may, is that total goods exports as opposed to services , total as opposed to services, total goods exports actually fell by just over 4% over the last year. and that does include manufacturing exports, of course. why is that ? i think course. why is that? i think that's largely because, uk producers of goods, uk

manufacturers in particular, they are labouring under some pretty difficult circumstances, the level of corporation tax has gone up. they have to pay high business rates on the value of their premises. also, british manufacturers , british manufacturers, british businesses in general and british households pay more for their electricity than in pretty much any other major western economies. so these are the reasons why i think goods exports have suffered a little bit. but the overall picture is of a trading nation that is looking outward to the world and also a sort of subplot of all this is that our exports , even this is that our exports, even to the european union, have been particularly high over the last year or so. and that's been dnven year or so. and that's been driven not just by professional services. it's also been driven by energy. it's slightly anomalous because the us has been exporting a lot of lng, uquefied been exporting a lot of lng, liquefied natural gas to europe ,

liquefied natural gas to europe, andifs liquefied natural gas to europe, and it's been using the uk as a dropping off point. we then take in the lng, we have advanced lng docking facilities in the uk, not least in kent and in wales. we then reprocess the gas . we then reprocess the gas. regasify it if you like, from liquid and then send it to the continent. and that those counts as british exports too. so it's as british exports too. so it's a pretty healthy situation. you know, our economy is quite sluggish at the moment. the cost of living crisis isn't over yet. and for many of our viewers and listeners, it's far from over . listeners, it's far from over. but there are signs of growth. as you and i have discussed in recent weeks. martin, we've got a gdp number coming out tomorrow, which i think will confirm that recession is over. and there are signs that the british trading system is starting to get back into gear. and, you know, you've got to get your good news where you can find it . find it. >> absolutely agree. liam halligan. think it halligan. although i do think it is a moot point that we no longer make as much as we used

to. but is there any wonder when we be as competitive on a we can't be as competitive on a global stage in terms of labour costs, , net costs, electricity costs, net zero targets and all the rest of it? liam , if we're if we're it? but liam, if we're if we're exporting services and intellectual stuff, that's a great thing too. >> it is a great thing too. the thing i would say in defence of manufacturing, and i'm a huge defender of british manufacturing, still manufacturing, is we are still a really manufacturer . really important manufacturer. you know, we're not the workshop of the world here. the industrial revolution is over. you know, we learnt about it as school didn't we? like school kids didn't we? like every school kid in this country, that britain country, you learn that britain was the first manufacturing nafion was the first manufacturing nation all kinds reasons. nation for all kinds of reasons. and now we're not. you know, the chinese are the world's biggest exporters. you know, got exporters. you know, they've got 1.5 got 60 1.5 billion people. we've got 60 or 70 million. it does make a difference. the american economy is, you know, 3 or 4 times the size of our economy . it's a huge size of our economy. it's a huge place. and yet and yet despite the difficulties we've had, despite our skill shortages , despite our skill shortages, despite our skill shortages, despite those high energy costs

that i talked about, despite high taxation in some parts of the economy, we are still the world's eighth biggest manufacturer . we world's eighth biggest manufacturer. we are world's eighth biggest manufacturer . we are still, manufacturer. we are still, under most definitions, the world's fifth or sixth biggest economy . that is not too shabby. economy. that is not too shabby. the danger is , i think, and the danger is, i think, and again, this is something you and i again, this is something you and [have again, this is something you and i have discussed over recent years. we haven't grown nearly enough and we haven't grown in particular when it comes not just gdp , all goods and just to gdp, all goods and services in the economy in a year , but in terms of gdp per year, but in terms of gdp per head. what nerdy economists like me call gdp per capita, it's clearly a much more important, measure of living standards than just straight gdp. when you've got a fast growing population, as we have in the uk. so, look, we are nowhere near out of the economic woods yet. but i do think inflation is coming down. i do think we're going to have some interest rate cuts quite soon. i do think that the

economy improve over the economy will improve over the months to come. and for my money, objectively , i think money, objectively, i think you'd have to be pretty churlish not to view these trade figures as pretty good news. superb liam halligan as ever, a post—brexit bounce. >> thank you very much for joining us on the show. always a [by joining us on the show. always a joy. now there's lots more still to come. between and 5:00, to come. between now and 5:00, i'll by the man who i'll be joined by the man who set a website just for clever set up a website just for clever people trevor, we'll people called trevor, and we'll have that clever trevor on the show. but first, it's time for your headlines, and your latest news headlines, and it's middlehurst. it's polly middlehurst. >> the top stories this hour. former american footballer o.j. former american footballer oj. simpson has died of cancer at the age of 76. his family has issued a statement saying he died surrounded by his children and grandchildren. simpson was acquitted of killing his ex—wife , nicole brown simpson, and her friend ron goldman in 1994 at a trial that gripped america .

trial that gripped america. almost 100 million people watching live on television. the coverage of the now famous car pursuit of oj. simpson driving a white ford bronco, followed by multiple police cars across los angeles after his record breaking career in the nfl, he became an actor and had roles in the naked gun films. in 2008, he was convicted for his role in a las vegas armed robbery and served almost nine years in prison . the prime minister says prison. the prime minister says the plan is working as new nhs figures show hospital waiting lists in england have fallen for the fifth month in a row. over 305,000 people have been waiting more than year to start more than a year to start routine hospital treatment at the end of february. that's down from over 320,000 at the from just over 320,000 at the end of january. the government and nhs england have both pledged to eliminate all waiting lists of more than a year by march next year. lists of more than a year by march next year . and a man has march next year. and a man has been remanded in custody after being charged with murdering a woman who was fatally stabbed in yorkshire as she pushed her baby

in a pram. 25 year old habibul masum will appear in court once again tomorrow in bradford. speaking today only to confirm his name, date of birth and address during his six minute hearing. 27 year old kulsoom akhter died after being stabbed in bradford on saturday afternoon. her baby was unharmed in that attack and hundreds of tata steel workers in south wales are set to go on strike over the proposed closure of port talbot's blast furnaces . port talbot's blast furnaces. around 1500 steelworkers based at port talbot and llanwern in south wales have voted for industrial action over the company's plan to close the furnaces, resulting in the potential loss of 2800 jobs. it's the first time in over 40 years the port talbot steelworkers have gone on strike. those are your latest news headlines for the latest stories to sign up to gb news alerts, scan the qr code on your screen or go to gbnews.com. alerts .

alerts. >> thank you polly. now back to this afternoon's breaking news. and oj simpson has died at the age of 76. only just a few months ago, oj simpson took to twitter to reassure fans about his health. let's take a listen . his health. let's take a listen. okay, well, we're going now to los angeles and speak to our showbiz reporter kinsey schofield, who joins me on the line. kinsey, welcome to the show. sad news, oj died at the age of 76. but of course, looking back over his life, he'll be remembered mostly for the controversy around that double . double murder. >> yeah, you're absolutely right. i mean, he was america's golden boy. 11 seasons in the nfl , the highly i mean, that's nfl, the highly i mean, that's our church here in the united states . and then he was one of states. and then he was one of the first celebrities i know. everybody thinks of michael jordan, but he really was one of the first athletes to transition into pop culture. you saw him

appearing in movies. you saw him in these hertz commercials that were so quirky and had so much personality. and americans really loved this man, you know, they were shocked by the death of his ex, nicole brown simpson , of his ex, nicole brown simpson, at the time. and immediately all signs pointed to oj simpson as the suspect in this double murder of nicole and her friend, as poorly had had spoken about a few minutes earlier, the entire country gripped by this trial around the clock streaming. we had never seen something like this before . people were calling this before. people were calling out of work so that they could sit down and watch the oj simpson trial at home. on the comfort of their couch, and the la car chase is it's still affects the city of los angeles today. whenever i book local news, they say you're on it this time. unless there's a car chase, because without any detail whatsoever , los angeles detail whatsoever, los angeles stops everything they're doing

and they take that car chase. 20 you know, that is that is a priority to this day because of oj simpson and because of the amount of attention that that received. it changed the way that local news works here in los angeles, but like, like you previously discussed, he was arrested again in two thousand and seven for kidnapping and armed robbery. he was sentenced to 33 years in that scenario, only spent nine years in jail for that. but people really felt like that. judge threw the book at him, because of the nicole brown simpson case, because so many people felt like he was guilty and he was ultimately acquitted by a jury of his peers in that case. so a pretty wild life, this individual led a roller coaster. certainly. do you remember when he wrote the book?ifi you remember when he wrote the book? if i did it where he hypothetically went over the murder of nicole brown simpson? i mean, he just was was such a

character . character. >> and kinsey, the trial itself was not only captivating because it was publicised so wild, it was a global event. i mean, i remember here in the uk, it was just absolutely captivating on every news output , but also every news output, but also a case that exemplified the rise from nothing of oj simpson to the very top of america . it the very top of america. it became the american dream. the poster boy, a black man that was worshipped by all americans . and worshipped by all americans. and then this, this plummet into chaos and the into tragedy. it just had everything. it was the ultimate showcase trial . ultimate showcase trial. >> yeah. and i think it also was a reflection of the culture at the time, a lot of people look at that acquittal and say it was because of the beating of, i believe it was rodney king. i apologise if i, if i'm, if i am getting the name wrong there, but we had just had a beating of an individual. so a lot of

people felt like the acquittal of oj simpson was a reflection of oj simpson was a reflection of real anger and rage over police brutality. at the time , police brutality. at the time, and they wanted to use this as and they wanted to use this as an example, so there was just so much hurt and anger after the 0.1. much hurt and anger after the oj. simpson, trial . and it took oj. simpson, trial. and it took a long time for the country to heal after that. >> it did. huge case. thank you very much, kinsey schofield, for joining us there from los angeles on the death of oj simpson, aged 76, from cancer. now, later this hour, i'll talk about the huge security operation ahead of saturday's grand national. but first, there's a new way to get in touch with us. and here's bev turner with all the details. >> proud to be gb news >> we are proud to be gb news the people's channel. and as you know, we always to love hear your views. now there's a new way touch with us way of getting in touch with us at gbnews.com/your say by commenting , at gbnews.com/your say by commenting, you can be part of a live conversation and join our gb news community. you can even

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i >> welcome back. it's 442. i'm martin daubney, and this is gb news. now, later in the show, i'll talk about the extraordinary news that people no longer need to be to no longer need to be able to swim to join the royal navy. no, it's not april fool's day. this is a true story. it's not april fool's day. this is a true story . before that, is a true story. before that, a court has heard that an asylum seeker shouted allah akbar, meaning god is great as he stabbed the man in the chest before he went on to fatally stab a pensioner. ahmed ali denies murdering terrence carney and the attempted murder of his housemate javid noori. he also denies assaulting two female police officers who had interviewed him after his arrest. well, our reporter anna

riley is outside teesside crown court now. anna, what's the latest on the story ? latest on the story? >> good afternoon martin. yes a jury >> good afternoon martin. yes a jury heard today that ali was motivated by the conflict in gaza and to further his desire that palestine would be free from the zionists. this is something the murder and the attempted murder is something that ahmed ali, 45 year old man, denies. he is a moroccan national and the offence alleged offence took place on the 15th offence took place on the 15th of october last year. offence took place on the 15th of october last year . ali shared of october last year. ali shared accommodation provided by the home office. he's asylum seeker and he shared the accommodation with three other asylum seekers at first, the court heard that he got along with his housemate javid noori. he believed that his house housemate was a muslim and he complimented him on his cleaning. but the court heard that when ali found out that mr

noon that when ali found out that mr noori had converted from the islam faith to become a christian and started attending the local church in hartlepool, that things got bad between them and that mr noori tried to report concerns to the police and was attacked several days later. the court heard that in the early hours of the morning on the 15th of october, the alid entered mr norris bedroom as he lay sleeping and stabbed him multiple times, shouting allahu akbah multiple times, shouting allahu akbar, allahu akbar, meaning god is great, as he attacked him , mr is great, as he attacked him, mr noon is great, as he attacked him, mr noori managed to fight off ali, the defendant housemates called police and then that was when ali fled the house and stabbed terence carney, a 70 year old man who was out on a morning walk, approached him from behind and fatally stabbed him. police arrested him. they disarmed him of a knife that he used in the attack, the prosecution say, and then he was brought to the police station and it was when

he was brought to the police station, he started speaking in arabic, and this was recorded on the worn camera of one of the body worn camera of one of the body worn camera of one of the police officers. he began saying, for the people of gaza and allah willing, gaza would return be an arab country. he return to be an arab country. he went on to praise allah and spoke of him being displeased with those who went astray . he with those who went astray. he said that his hands were injured, otherwise he would have continued to what he referred to as the raid. he was then interviewed by police officers the next day under caution, and he spoke of returning with the army of muhammad, with the non—believers having to pay tax to the muslims and be humbled. he said that he'd killed two adults because israel had killed innocent children , and that he innocent children, and that he said they killed children and i killed an old man. he swore by allah that if the colonisation by which he meant israel did not leave, that britain was on the verge of an explosion and there would be more victims , he said would be more victims, he said he swore by the greatness of

allah that britain would be a wreck, and that losing two victims was than the victims was better than the whole of britain being lost and saying again that these attacks were for the sake of palestine, prosecution then that the prosecution said then that the defendant went on to attack two female police officers. this trial will be continuing for around a month, four weeks, and we will be keeping our viewers and listeners updated as the trial continues . trial continues. >> okay. thank you anna. ron, if that's update from outside teesside crown court now, undercover police officers will be deployed at saturday's grand national after last year's race was disrupted by animal rights activists. i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel

welcome back. it's 450. i'm martin daubney. this is gb news now. at 5:00, i'll host a debate on whether we should leave the

echr or not. but before that, police have begun one of the biggest ever grand national security operations . after security operations. after animal rights activists disrupted last year's race. 12 months ago, the world's most famous horse race started almost 15 minutes late after people from animal rising , that group from animal rising, that group got onto the race track. well, i can now speak with chris phillips, who's the former senior police commander at sports stadia. welcome to the show, chris. always a pleasure. it seems an annual event now, not only the race itself , but not only the race itself, but the fact it's being targeted by those who wish to disrupt it. what can we expect this year, do you think it's a huge operation underfoot? it a huge operation. >> of course , don't forget >> but of course, don't forget the police in liverpool are used to with this. and over to dealing with this. and over the years the threats of change. and each year something else p0ps and each year something else pops his head up. >> i think is getting a bit >> i think it is getting a bit annoying though, isn't it? >> all these, single issue groups who just suddenly decide to one or to pop up for one thing or another and the police have to deal with them, i believe this

year the animal rising have said they're not going to do it, but that doesn't mean to say that other can't other incidents can't take place, , of course, place, including, of course, let's not forget terrorism because we are seeing a rise in isis again. >> and this will be a concern for the police. but but generally, security is pretty good at aintree, and last year in particular, i thought the police dealt with it very well. once they were confronted with the people running on the grounds. >> yeah, you're right to mention isis there, chris. of course, the champions league fixtures this hit with threats. this week were hit with threats. of course, there was no action there saw a significant there and we saw a significant beefing up of police both at the emirates and also in paris and madrid. do you expect to see, a similar thing at the grand national? the old bill making sure they're in full mode? >> yeah, i think so . and not >> yeah, i think so. and not only at this, at the stadium itself or the racecourse itself, but on the outside and, and in the train stations and town centres and city centres , centres and city centres, nearby. i think the thing about this is that isis put that piece

out, last week, really to encourage those supporters in europe to rise up and do something and, and of course , we something and, and of course, we don't know the police don't know when that might happen or who might do it. so it is always a bit a concern, particularly bit of a concern, particularly at these very large, set piece events that are live on television. >> what's so difficult , of >> what's so difficult, of course, now, chris, is that it's just a lone individual, or a couple of individuals can just get in and charge onto the course and cause chaos. and at an event as big as the perimeter, the perimeter of this is so big, you can't stop everybody getting in somewhere, can you ? no. you know, can you? no. you know, racecourse is a bit like, a bit like marathons and things like that are very, very difficult to secure because there is so much to them and, so many options for any would be protester or even terrorists . terrorists. >> so, so this is, always a bit of a concern, but listen, the police in the uk and other countries deal with this , on

countries deal with this, on a day to day basis, and the, you know, the marathons and the and the race courses are running. so i think we should, put some faith in our police and security teams and, and hopefully they'll make sure that anyone that is spotted will be dealt with very quickly. >> and chris briefly occurred as an individual used an individual who's used increasingly now to make sure sports events stay safe . what is sports events stay safe. what is the current risk ? the current risk? >> well, the terrorism risk is substantial, but but that's not really the only risk. there are so many groups that that want to disrupt and get themselves on the telly. >> and i think that's the key thing here. martin. >> superb. well thanks for joining us on the show. chris phillips, the former phillips, who's the former senior commander at senior police commander at sports so he what sports stadia. so he knows what he's talking about. now a reminder of this afternoon's breaking news. oj simpson has died at the age of 76. he succumbed to cancer. oj, of course, was a hugely successful

nfl player, a golden boy, a poster boy of america worshipped by black and white people alike , by black and white people alike, went on, of course, to become the star of the murder trial of the star of the murder trial of the century, as it was called. his former wife, nicole simpson, a hugely spectacular fall from grace. and, of course, that car chase across la. we'll have much more on that story throughout the rest of the show . i'm more on that story throughout the rest of the show. i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel, but before all of that, it's time for your latest weather forecast. and here's annie shuttleworth . annie shuttleworth. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on gb news . news. news. news. >> hello. good afternoon. welcome to your latest gb news weather update. staying mild for the uk through the rest of the day and into friday too. but we will see some rain moving into the northwest. this weather

front have affecting front that's have been affecting southern has created a few southern areas has created a few wiggles and waves on it, and this wave will push up into northwestern areas through this evening. so northern ireland are likely to some bursts likely to see some heavy bursts of through next few of rain through the next few hours that moves away hours before that moves away into western areas of scotland, northwestern cumbria in northwestern england, cumbria in particular like to see some heavier evening. heavier rain this evening. further south, though it should remain dry away from coast remain dry away from the coast and hills. but it will and over the hills. but it will be cloudy night. be a particularly cloudy night. however, be another mild however, it will be another mild start on friday. temperatures not below double digits . not much below double digits. wherever you are the best of the sunshine first thing will be restricted north—east restricted to the far north—east of scotland and further south across scotland. it will be quite and wet through quite cloudy and wet through much of the day. also across parts of northern ireland, this area of northwest as parts of northern ireland, this area further1west as parts of northern ireland, this area further south, as parts of northern ireland, this area further south, though as well further south, though for much central southern england much of central southern england and wales, the cloud will break much of central southern england an(and les, the cloud will break much of central southern england an(and there |e cloud will break much of central southern england an(and there willoud will break much of central southern england an(and there will be will break much of central southern england an(and there will be some)reak up and there will be some sunshine the end of the sunshine by the end of the afternoon. a little afternoon. it will be a little hazy, but it's strong enough to pick up, into pick temperatures up, put into the high teens, possibly the low 20s, afternoon . now, 20s, by friday afternoon. now, that area of rain sinks further

south into parts of north wales more widely across northern england through saturday and behind it we see some unsettled weather with showery outbreaks of rain that's also going introduce cooler more introduce cooler air to more northern areas for sunday, so more unsettled and cooler to more unsettled and cooler end to the but across the the weekend. but across the south it should remain dry. >> things are heating up. >> boxt boilers spot of weather on

gb news. >> a very good afternoon to you. it's 5 pm. welcome to the martin daubney show on gb news. broadcasting live from the heart of all across the of westminster all across the uk. coming up this hour, the prime minister is facing a massive cabinet revolt . if he massive cabinet revolt. if he decides to leave the european convention of human rights. both the chancellor and the home

secretary are set against it. we'll be debating that hot topic shortly. next up, harry and william could finally bury the hatchet. and i don't mean between each of the shoulder blades, because it's rumoured that king charles could be the peacemaker . and breaking news peacemaker. and breaking news this afternoon. oj simpson has died following a battle with canceh died following a battle with cancer. and we'll bring you all of the reaction to that story. and that's all coming in your next hour. well, the show always a [by next hour. well, the show always a joy to have you on board. all right. we're having a big old ding dong in a minute. should we leave the european court of human rights? is it still setting our laws? is it still preventing us from getting flights off the ground to rwanda ? is it still preventing us from turning around boats ? is it turning around boats? is it protecting the human rights of asylum seekers in the uk , even

asylum seekers in the uk, even criminals above the rights of british criminals or citizens? sorry. or is that just a huge red herring? is actually the echr a bogeyman or something to blame when politicians don't actually get the job done? or is it a great thing? does it protect human rights and we should cherish it? that's the topic . get your views in and topic. get your views in and there's a new way you can do that. there's a new way you can do that . send there's a new way you can do that. send your there's a new way you can do that . send your views there's a new way you can do that. send your views and post your comments by visiting gbnews.com/your say. i'm logged in. you'll see my mouse there. drop a comment. keep it nice and clean, and i'll read out a bunch before the end of the show . but before the end of the show. but before the end of the show. but before that big ding dong don't go away. now it's for your go away. now it's time for your latest news headlines and it's polly . polly middlehurst. >> martin. thank you. good evening. well, the top story from the gb newsroom tonight. the former american footballer oj simpson has died of cancer at the age of 76. his family issued a statement saying he died

surrounded by his children and his grandchildren . oj simpson his grandchildren. oj simpson was acquitted of killing his ex—wife nicole brown simpson and her friend ron goldman in 1994, in a trial that gripped america , in a trial that gripped america, almost 100 million people watching live tv coverage of the now famous pursuit of oj simpson driving a white ford bronco, followed by multiple police cars across los angeles after his record breaking career in the nfl, he became an actor and had roles in the naked gun films. in 2008, though he was convicted for his role in a las vegas armed robbery and served almost nine years in prison. news. here in the uk and the plans is working, says the prime minister, as new nhs figures show hospital waiting lists in england have fallen for the fifth month in a row , over fifth month in a row, over 305,000 people have been waiting more than year to start more than a year to start routine hospital treatment at the end of february, and that's down from just over 320,000 at

the end of january. the government and nhs england have pledged to eliminate all waiting lists of more than a year by march next year. rishi sunak said there is, though, more to be done well when i became prime minister, i said that cutting waiting lists was one of my five priorities and whilst we haven't made as much progress as i would have today's figures show have liked, today's figures show that we are making headway towards that goal over the last five months, a reduction of around 200,000 in the overall waiting list, which is positive . waiting list, which is positive. >> and if it wasn't for industrial action, an extra 430,000 patients would have been treated. whilst there's of treated. so whilst there's of course a lot more work to do, the plan is working . the plan is working. >> nearly half of health service workers, meanwhile , have spent workers, meanwhile, have spent time looking at jobs outside the nhs . researchers have found nhs. researchers have found around 47% have looked at employment outside the service , employment outside the service, with 14% applying for non nhs jobs between march and june last

yeah jobs between march and june last year. it's understood job stress, workload, staff shortages and pay are the top reasons for staff wanting to leave . a man has been remanded leave. a man has been remanded in custody after being charged with murdering a woman who was fatally stabbed in yorkshire as she pushed her baby in a pram. 25 year old habibul masum will appearin 25 year old habibul masum will appear in court again at bradford crown court tomorrow. speaking today only to confirm his name, date of birth and address during a brief six minute hearing, 27 year old kulsoom akhtar died after being stabbed in bradford on saturday afternoon. her baby was unharmed in the attack. the metropolitan police has referred itself to the independent office for police conduct following the murder of a woman in london, 27 year old kanwar man , known to year old kanwar man, known to her friends as angela, was found inside her home address in a property on bayswater in london, on monday morning . a post—mortem on monday morning. a post—mortem examination carried out yesterday found the cause of her

death was sharp force trauma . death was sharp force trauma. there's been no arrest and enquiries continue . hundreds of enquiries continue. hundreds of tata steel workers are set to go on strike over the proposed closure of port talbot's blast furnaces in wales. around 1500 steelworkers based in port talbot and llanwern in south wales have voted for industrial action over the company's plan to close the furnaces, resulting in the potential loss of 2800 jobs. it's the first time in over 40 years the port talbot steelworkers have gone on strike in stitutional. bias prevented further investigation of complaints made by subpostmasters about the faulty post office horizon it systems former post office managing director david smith has been giving evidence today at the inquiry into the horizon it scandal . between 1999 and 2015, scandal. between 1999 and 2015, more than 900 subpostmasters were prosecuted due to flawed

software. mr smith also apologised for a 2010 email saying a pregnant subpostmistress prison sentence was brilliant. news the royal mail, meanwhile , says it's mail, meanwhile, says it's working to remove counterfeit stamps from circulation after an increase in imports of fake ones being sold online and in shops. the telegraph reported today. china is flooding britain with counterfeit royal mail stamps, with small retailers buying forgeries online. nine it's understood the fakes were causing a rise in complaints when stamps bought from legitimate stores were being deemed fraudulent, resulting in a £5 fine. gb news asked shoppers in horsham in west sussex, what they thought about the problem. >> awful. >> awful. >> this what happens. >> but this what happens. >> but this what happens. >> there's a lot of counterfeit, items right across the patch. really, so it doesn't surprise me , but i don't know whether me, but i don't know whether there's anything that can be done at the borders is dreadful. >> really dreadful situation.

just an addition to everything else that's going wrong in the world. >> well , i world. >> well, i don't use stamps very often, to be perfectly honest. so i did see the so it's. but i did see the difference between the real and the counterfeit. and, you know, you'd be hard pressed to see it wouldn't you ? wouldn't you? >> that's the news. for the latest stories, do sign up to gb news alerts. scan that qr code on your screen right now or go to gb news .com/ alerts. >> thank you polly. now let's start with this afternoon's breaking news. and it's that oj simpson has died at the age of 76. only just a few months ago, oj simpson took to twitter to reassure fans about his health. and let's take a listen to that , and let's take a listen to that, my health is good. >> i mean, obviously i'm dealing with some issues, but hey, i think i'm just about over it, and i'll be, back on that golf

course hopefully in a couple of weeks. >> but it was very nice hearing from you and hearing those good, positive words. thank you . positive words. thank you. >> well, that was oj simpson speaking a few minutes ago, seeming in fine fettle. passed away aged 76, of cancer. and let's get joined now by showbiz reporter stephanie takyi. steph, welcome to the show. oj simpson, of course, was the poster boy, the golden boy of an entire generation, worshipped by millions of americans. and then a spectacular fall from grace. of course, because of that huge double murder trial in october 1995. >> yes, martin, you know, up until his death, oj simpson did remain a very divisive character. and even if you can see the tributes from both the pubuc see the tributes from both the public and people who know him, they're not going to paint him out as a saint due to those murders. and even when he was acquitted for that infamous trial, which took place in 1994, he never did get his reputation

back. and he never did get to that point of being america's golden boy. instead, he did a life of crime, did follow him. he was. he was only released from prison in 2017 because he had been charged. he had been sentenced up to 33 years. martin for armed robbery and kidnap back in 22,008. so, you know , back in 22,008. so, you know, this is very much a controversial character, but the reason why oj simpson's death is making the headlines, because it's bringing back back then what was known the trial of the century. i think a lot of people remember chase between remember that car chase between the and oj, when he the police and oj, when he failed to hand himself in to that famous point in the court case before he was acquitted, and was represented by and he was represented by johnnie cochran. and he said that if the glove that famous line, if the glove doesn't fit, you must acquit. and since he has been acquitted, that case has always followed him. but you know, they say, don't talk ill of the dead. but still his past will come back to haunt him. >> and what's interesting,

staff, is that his case represented the american dream, the rise from nothing to the very top and then the plummet to nothing, the plummet back to the bottom. it had everything that captivated the celebrity world. that trial was a global sensation . sensation. >> it was. and it was like a celebrity horror story , because celebrity horror story, because you never expect to see one of the one of the country's most famous sportsmen standing on trial for murder of his ex—wife and her friend. you know, it just didn't make sense at all. and martin, at the time when that case was going on, there was at the height of racial tensions in america following the rodney king situation with police brutality. so it was a very tense time for america. and, you know, a lot of people will continue to say that oj did get away with murder , but the get away with murder, but the same time he was acquitted for that. he did have to pay. a that. but he did have to pay. a few years later, he to pay few years later, he had to pay over £33 million to both the families of nicole brown and ron

goldman, because he was found civilly, guilty of the case. >> okay. thanks forjoining us for that . stephanie takyi on the for that. stephanie takyi on the death of oj simpson. died of cancer aged 76. now to the latest on whether the uk will pull out of the european convention on human rights over the government's rwanda plan, because today it's been claimed that 12 cabinet ministers, including the chancellor of the exchequer and the home secretary, are dead against leaving the echr. well, we went out and about in birmingham earlier on today and asked the great british public, should we leave echr and here's what leave the echr and here's what they had to say. yes, i do. >> why is that, because of, all their rules and regulations. yeah, i mean, and we're a good country and we do all things good anyway. >> no, i don't think he should, i think the reason for that is that, in terms of protecting human rights. >> so in terms of the

government's responsibility to making sure that, all individuals are protected and groups. >> so, yeah, just making sure that everyone has a basic human right. >> we won't do it. >> we won't do it. >> we won't do it. >> we should have done it five years ago when we came out of brexit. >> nigel farage was absolutely right. why should a foreign government tell us what to do? >> like we should leave the. absolutely not. i think everybody should be giving the opportunity to have a life or, you know, live the life you know better than what you know. if they're stuck here, it's a better isn't so better life, isn't it? so yeah, i'm it . i'm all for it. >> okay. it's time for a ding dong.so >> okay. it's time for a ding dong. so let's debate this. and i'm joined now in the studio by the former minister for europe, denis macshane , and also by the denis macshane, and also by the political suzanne political commentator suzanne evans. political commentator suzanne evans . welcome to the show, the evans. welcome to the show, the both of you. denis, let's kick off. should we leave the echr? yes or no? >> no. and why not? very simply. winston churchill created it. it's not a foreign government. it's not a foreign government. it is a court that obeys our

values. generally, british values. generally, british values shaped over 2 or 300 years and applies them to a lot of other countries. i don't know why rishi sunak why does he want to be like vladimir putin? there was a famous russian called rasputin. you heard of him, i'm sure. now called sure. well, he's now called rishi putin in russian circles because he's following vladimir in pulling out of the european jurisdiction, which all sorts of governments could be annoyed with. the swiss are annoyed with them at the moment because they ruled climate change. mrs. ruled on, climate change. mrs. thatcher was annoyed with them when they ruled on interrogation methods used in ulster against the ira, that the court said were improper. but she didn't say let's walk out of it. you know, she worked around and changed the rules . so the army changed the rules. so the army behaved in a slightly different way. so why on earth and practically house of lords time, house of commons time dinner. what rishi is playing at? >> well, suzanne evans, is it time to leave the echr

>> well, i think it is, yes, regrettably. >> and can i just say, i think the kind of comparison with russia if we leave, is the most ridiculous thing i've heard all day. >> just because leave the >> just because we leave the echr doesn't suddenly mean that we're going become we're going to become an anti—human cesspit. anti—human rights cesspit. >> there plenty of other >> there are plenty of other countries that countries around the world that aren't and have aren't in the echr and have perfectly human perfectly good and strong human rights , and i do think rights records, and i do think it's regrettable if we should leave, though, because as as as denis said, winston churchill helped had helped formulate it. britain had a very clear role in getting it going. >> let's not forget was >> let's not forget it was brought in in the wake of two world in the 1950s, when world wars in the 1950s, when human rights were very low human rights were at a very low ebb was understandably ebb and there was understandably a that the kind of a deep concern that the kind of horrors that we saw of nazism, of stalinism, shouldn't be repeated again. but the problem is we've got to a stage now. it's a bit like the european union itself, even though it's separate from the european union, expansionist, it's union, it's expansionist, it's anti—democratic. it's run by judges that have become highly politicised, and they're making highly political and anti democratic decisions. so that's why i say with regret , i

democratic decisions. so that's why i say with regret, i think absolutely it's time to leave. >> denis, you're shaking your head there. >> maybe only the sense i'm going to the council of europe , going to the council of europe, which on which oversees the echr on monday for three days there i will meet very right people who make susan look like quite a liberal leftie act. she's serious. right wingers from italy, from france , from spain, italy, from france, from spain, from hungary. and the idea to leave an international organisation, which they have a say, which they have a vote and which they can nominate a judge, seems to them to be absolutely bonkers. i mean, we really are an outlier now. and i think the problem is rishi just doesn't understand international relations or diplomacy. he's worked of his life making worked most of his life making money in california. good luck to him. good luck to his future. but the idea that any serious british political person with some responsibility for the affairs of this country wants to, as i say , i'm sorry, to, as i say, i'm sorry, suzanne, you make a joke. of course we're not russia, but it's rishi putin. that's his nickname. now, suzanne .

nickname. now, suzanne. >> yeah. the thing is, you know, rishi sunak , i could make many rishi sunak, i could make many criticisms of rishi sunak, but that he's not an international person on the global scale. and a certainly not one a diplomat is certainly not one of them. look at his background. you only have to see it's very, very internationalist i very internationalist indeed. i think here think the problem we have here is we're not probably going is that we're not probably going to the european to leave the european convention. not under convention. certainly not under this conservative government. and much under and i very much doubt under what's looking very strongly to be the next labour government. but you know, why has this suddenly talked suddenly been talked about again? because of this again? it's because of this ruling from the from switzerland that the democratic referenda on net zero has basically been overturned by the court. and this is an example of what i was saying about why it's becoming vehemently . it's vehemently anti —democratic. it's basically vehemently anti—democratic. it's basically made a decision, that's nonsensical in a way. net zero, you know , nobody voted for zero, you know, nobody voted for that. nobody knows how much it's going to cost. nobody knows what the impact is going to be our the impact is going to be on our lives. european convention lives. the european convention certainly hasn't considered this, made this

this, and yet it's made this ruling specifically about switzerland, where people are living ever, saying living longer than ever, saying climate change isn't being taken seriously enough . people aren't seriously enough. people aren't going to live as long. i'm afraid evidence is afraid the evidence is absolutely contrary . and absolutely to the contrary. and this highlights exactly absolutely to the contrary. and this i highlights exactly absolutely to the contrary. and this i isaying.ts exactly absolutely to the contrary. and this i isaying. judges:ly absolutely to the contrary. and this i isaying. judges are what i was saying. judges are making their decisions not based on law, not based on fact, but on law, not based on fact, but on political posturing. and that is not acceptable . and that's is not acceptable. and that's not an organisation we should belong to. >> denis macshane , i can see you >> denis macshane, i can see you shaking your head very quickly. >> word you >> final word to you very simply, lived worked for simply, i lived and worked for 15 switzerland. 15 years in switzerland. i'm probably more swiss than anybody's been british anybody's ever been in british politics. talk to my swiss friends. welcome this swiss friends. they welcome this swiss mps welcome. switzerland is divided . it's a nudge mps welcome. switzerland is divided. it's a nudge in mps welcome. switzerland is divided . it's a nudge in the divided. it's a nudge in the right direction. it's not going to overturn anything. and we're all having to deal with this problem of climate change. listen, listen , listen to the listen, listen, listen to the radio. no, no. i'm sorry. i'm with respect, i with respect. i do read swiss papers in german and french. and there's no particular outrage. even the

swiss people's party or your sister party. i think you'd be in it if you were in switzerland. suzanne. they accept that. we've got to try and get this right. and the european court of human rights nudges, nudges us right nudges, nudges us all right along in the right direction. that's not true. >> any country that's signed up to it has to abide by its rulings. that, dennis. rulings. you know that, dennis. this this is this isn't a nudge. this is overriding governments. okay? >> macshane and suzanne, >> denis macshane and suzanne, we'll have to leave it there. and by the way, not everybody in switzerland is happy about this. in talking to a in fact, i'll be talking to a leader pro swiss movement in fact, i'll be talking to a leader who'sswiss movement in fact, i'll be talking to a leader who's notys movement in fact, i'll be talking to a leader who's notys rallement in fact, i'll be talking to a leader who's notys rall happy tomorrow who's not at all happy about it. in fact, there might be some tasty coming be some tasty action coming against the echr now. moving on, harry and william could finally bury the hatchet. it's rumoured king charles could be the peacemaker when the sussexes arriving in the uk next month. i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's channel

welcome back. 522. always a pleasure to have your company. i'm martin daubney on gb news now. later this hour, i'm going to speak to a broadcasting legend that i can't wait to find out what she thinks about me and more importantly, how i speak. because i'm as common as muck. and she's not. now, could king charles play the peacemaker between his warring sons ? well, between his warring sons? well, according to reports, charles is hoping to reconcile william and harry next month when the duke of sussex returns to the uk for an invictus games anniversary service at saint paul's cathedral. well, i can now speak with royal commentator richard fitzwilliams. richard, welcome to the show. always a pleasure. could the two brothers finally bury the hatchet and not between each of the shoulder blades? and could king charles be the peacemaker? >> well , this could happen. one >> well, this could happen. one of the problems is that we simply don't know what is going

to happen. it's a very important anniversary, may the 8th, because the service of thanksgiving is being held. >> thanksgiving for , of course, >> thanksgiving for, of course, ten years of the invictus games. >> and this was an absolutely remarkable feat that harry founded this to help injured and wounded servicemen and women. and there's no question about that. one of the problems, however, is that it's going to be overshadowed, i suspect, or partly overshadowed by, firstly, the question, will meghan be with him? >> and i suspect the answer is no, but i don't know . no, but i don't know. >> and then secondly, i think it very likely that he will see his father. >> he might even come over before then . it's up to him, of before then. it's up to him, of course, and up to their security , of course, to be arranged. but will king charles play a role in peacemaking ? but the rift is peacemaking? but the rift is very deep, as we all know, and the sussexes , for four years the sussexes, for four years they've attacked the royal family and that is the reason for it. and william is naturally

suspicious because he doesn't trust harry and he doesn't trust harry with very good reason. because of the various attacks on the royal family. >> however, given the fact that king charles is undergoing treatment for cancer, and given the fact that catherine, who is seriously ill, preventative chemotherapy is, i should think, desperately stressful . desperately stressful. >> she made that courageous video message to the nation will they get together ? i suspect the they get together? i suspect the answer to this will lie or hope it lies in private links talks privately that we don't know about. so we know that william is in touch with, harry after, of course, the video message. apparently the reports were the sussexes didn't know of catherine's condition before then. the facts are, however, that we simply don't know what's

going to happen. but it is definitely possible that since king charles has never closed the door , and since after all, the door, and since after all, they're both his sons , and since they're both his sons, and since two members, senior members of the royal family, are seriously ill, this presents an entirely new scenario and a new, possibly a new bridge. we will have to wait and see. >> okay, that's one to watch. superb stuff. royal commentator richard fitzwilliams , thank you richard fitzwilliams, thank you for joining me on the show. forjoining me on the show. always a pleasure to have your company. now moving on. are the royal navy standards sinking? yes, because according to reports, potential recruits will no longer need to prove they are strong swimmers with the navy planning to scrap the 30 minute swim test prior to being recruited. well, joining me now to discuss this is the former nato commander, rear admiral chris parry. welcome to the show. chris. i have to confess, when i read this story earlier,

i thought it was still april fool's day on what planet is it a good idea to drop a swimming test for royal navy sailors ? test for royal navy sailors? >> martin, i have to tell you, when i joined the navy in the 19705, it when i joined the navy in the 1970s, it wasn't a requirement to be able to swim , so it's been to be able to swim, so it's been going up and down for the last few decades, to tell you the truth. and if you go back to the 18th century in nelson's navy, 90% of sailors couldn't swim. so it's nothing unusual, i think there is a general desire to make, recruiting more accessible to people , so not to exclude to people, so not to exclude people. as, you know, the recruiting targets are down across the board right now, but this is a temporary measure. when people get in the service, there's no question that them being being allowed to go to sea before they can swim properly. so where there's going to be an additional burden is in training people to swim when they could be doing other, more useful things navigation and things like navigation and skills training.

>> well, we've had a of >> well, we've had a couple of emails here, chris, i'd like to read out. paul said this you have to do a swimming test to qualify as an air hostess. it's absolutely staggering. you don't have to do the same in the navy. and alan here says, when i joined the raf, we had to be swimmers or have learned by the end of the course or we get kicked or we got kicked off. so if the raf and airline processors have to swim, it's astonishing, chris, that sailors don't have to do the same. it's a bit like saying it's okay to be in the raf if you've got vertigo . vertigo. >> yeah, yeah. but i mean, it's almost like saying you can't be in the raf unless you can fly. >> well, you can't, can you? >> well, you can't, can you? >> but the, the issue is, martin, nobody's going to go near the sea or the front line until they can swim properly . my until they can swim properly. my bleep with you really bleep with this is you really should transfer the responsibilities of people and say look, if you want to join the navy swimming is part of that. make that training that. don't make that a training burden to put on burden that we have to put on

you, that would be my issue. but over the last 40 years, this policy has gone up and down all the time. it's just the latest manifestation. i think we need to look more broadly at the other issues that are lowering standards. it's not swimming that we need to be worried about. it's other physical and mental faculty that are being lowered to increase the numbers that worry me, to tell you the truth. >> and i have to say, chris, there's another email here, are you all say beg your pardon from johnny ? who says this makes johnny? who says this makes sense? the royal navy never seemed to sea anymore . seemed to be at sea anymore. >> yeah, well, i mean, i could counter that by saying, of course, you're never going to need be in the sea, are you? need to be in the sea, are you? because ships good because our ships are so good and so and our people are so operational never operational that it will never happen. having been in the happen. but having been in the falklands, know, having falklands, you know, and having rescued from sinking rescued people from sinking ships there, you know, if you don't and you're in the don't swim and you're in the navy, you're asking for trouble, aren't you? >> well , you aren't you? >> well, you certainly think so. certainly chances >> well, you certainly think so. ce survival chances >> well, you certainly think so. ce survival should chances >> well, you certainly think so. ce survival should anything|ces >> well, you certainly think so. ce survival should anything go. of survival should anything go. pete tong, thanks for joining us on show . rear

pete tong, thanks for joining us on show. rear admiral chris on the show. rear admiral chris parry, always a pleasure to have your company. i don't know what to make of that. i mean, i mean, chris parry just said this is nothing most people nothing unusual, most people couldn't swim in nelson's time when qualified in the when chris qualified in the 19705. you didn't have to swim. i just find it astonishing that you'd have to swim if you're in the navy. and as paul says here, airline hostesses have to be able swim . you have to be able to swim. you have to be able to swim. you have to be able to swim if you're in the raf and paul is saying here, what next? people in the army who don't have to be able to walk. i mean, we're making a joke it , but i walk. i mean, we're making a joke it, but i don't joke out of it, but i don't know. what do think? me know. what do you think? let me know. what do you think? let me know. forward slash . know. gb news forward slash. your way to in your say is the way to get in touch us. there's lots more touch with us. there's lots more still to come between now and 6:00, and in a few minutes i'll be joined by a tory minister to discuss the state of the nhs waiting or slightly down. waiting list or slightly down. is that a good thing or are they still unacceptably large? i put that to her. but that question right to her. but first, it's time for your latest news headlines, and it's polly

middlehurst . at. middlehurst. at. >> the top stories this hour. the former american footballer oj simpson has died of cancer at the age of 76, his family issuing a statement in the last hour saying he died surrounded by his children and his grandchildren. oj simpson was acquitted of killing his ex—wife nicole brown simpson and her friend ron goldman in 1994, in a trial that gripped america, almost 100 million people watched live tv coverage of the now famous pursuit of oj simpson driving a white ford bronco, followed by multiple police cars across los angeles. after his record breaking career in the nfl , he record breaking career in the nfl, he became an actor and had roles in the naked gun films in 2008, though, he was convicted for his role in a las vegas armed robbery and served almost nine years in prison, the prime minister says the plan is working, as new nhs figures show hospital waiting lists in england have fallen for the

fifth month in a row. over 305,000 people have been waiting more than a year to start routine hospital treatment at the end of february. that's down from just over 320,000 at the end of january . the government end of january. the government and nhs england have both pledged to eliminate all waiting lists of more than a year by march next year. and a man has been remanded in custody after being charged with murdering a woman who was fatally stabbed in yorkshire as she pushed her baby in pram. 25 year old habiba in a pram. 25 year old habiba masum will appear in court again in bradford tomorrow. speaking today only to confirm his name, date of birth and address during a six minute court hearing, 27 year old kulsoom akhtar died after being stabbed in bradford on saturday afternoon. her baby was unharmed in the attack and hundreds of tata steel workers are set to go on strike over the proposed closure of port talbot's blast furnaces. around 1500 steelworkers based in port talbot and llanwern in south wales have voted for industrial

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sunak's doing a victory. lap. waiting lists are higher than they were when he became prime minister. he's promised to cut nhs waiting list and you also look at the performance standards on things like a&e, ambulance response times . they ambulance response times. they are shockingly bad to the extent that people can no longer be certain that whether they dial 999 with suspected heart attack or stroke, or walk in to a&e, that they're going to be seen on time and in the right way. so i think by now, hopefully people have reached a conclusion that the longer the conservatives are in longer patients the longer the conservatives are in wait longer patients the longer the conservatives are in wait . longer patients will wait. >> well, wes streeting wasn't having it and i'm joined in the studio now by health minister for conservative party, for the conservative party, maria welcome to the maria caulfield. welcome to the show. so some some good news for you. numbers down for five you. the numbers down for five months on the bounce . but rishi months on the bounce. but rishi sunak had said earlier in the day he believed nhs waiting times were his biggest failure as prime minister. but this is good news today, is it? >> it's really good news because

it's not just the number of people on the waiting lists are falling, time falling, but the length of time they're falling, but the length of time the so, compared to i know you >> so, compared to i know you had the labour, shadow secretary on there , but in wales, there's on there, but in wales, there's 40% longer waits procedures 40% longer waits for procedures in wales where labour run the health service there. >> but people are waiting just under a year now for many procedures. opened up procedures. and we've opened up a number of avenues get those a number of avenues to get those waiting from our waiting lists down from our community . community diagnostic centres. >> we've got 160 sites now >> we've got over 160 sites now performing ct, mris, performing things like ct, mris, endoscopies, which have helped get down those waiting lists. >> we've opened up over 100 surgical across the surgical hubs across the country, which are again operating, to get the back of that backlog down. >> we would be further ahead if we hadn't had the strikes . we hadn't had the strikes. >> for example, i think in february there was 34,000 procedures that would have been done the done if it wasn't for the strikes that would have brought those those lists even lower . so those those lists even lower. so considering we've just come through considering through winter, considering the strikes that were ongoing, it is good news patients be good news and patients will be seeing difference in terms seeing the difference in terms of who is on the waiting

of who else is on the waiting list long have to wait. >> and yet have seen scenes >> and yet we have seen scenes yesterday london, a south yesterday in london, a south london gp, the queues around the block, people queuing for hours, struggling to get an appointment. we saw similar scenes in bristol, people queuing over three days to try and join a new gp there. people say to us all the time they struggle to get hold of a gp, they've got missing in action. many people believe and even getting a routine dental appointment , so there's still appointment, so there's still lots and lots of work to do. >> there is. i we did >> there is. i mean, we did close down, kind routine close down, the kind of routine health for nearly health care system for nearly two of two years under covid. and of course, natural course, that creates a natural backlog itself. if you backlog in itself. but if you look dentistry , for example, look at dentistry, for example, since new dental since we put our new dental recovery place in recovery plan in place in january, we've seen 500 new practices and nhs practices come and join nhs dentistry and we'll create 2.5 million more dental appointments. >> we don't employ dentists direct, so we do need them to take up nhs contracts, and we're trying to make that more attractive for them. so there's good news around, whether good news all around, whether it's times, four it's a&e waiting times, the four hour improved, the 12

hour waits are improved, the 12 hour waits are improved, the 12 hour are improved, hour waits are improved, dentistry appointments are becoming more, reliable and the waiting lists are coming down too. so, you know, overall , all too. so, you know, overall, all it's a positive news in terms of the direction of travel. >> okay. talking about toothache, boris johnson has been having a bit of a pop at rishi sunak. he was in canada having a go about smoking and the forthcoming expected vote. is there any coincidence, do you believe that boris is saying this is a very unconservative thing to do? it's not what winston churchill would have done , of course, referring to done, of course, referring to him as the world's most famous cigar smoker and a rebellion is expected next week. is this bofis expected next week. is this boris still leading as the leader from over the water? the king over the water? is that helpful ? helpful? >> well, i mean, it will be a free vote. and rishi said that from the start when announced from the start when he announced it last it at party conference last yeah it at party conference last year, we're not stopping anyone from we from smoking. obviously, we want people smoking , but the people to stop smoking, but the legislation that's been brought

in, who now will in, anyone who smokes now will not be forced to stop. >> we're doing for >> what we're doing is for children are the next children who are the next generation will not be able to legally buy cigarettes. >> so people who choose to smoke now, all the warnings, now, despite all the warnings, despite all the concerns, will not freedom away not have that freedom taken away from them. and is a free vote from them. and it is a free vote for reason. you there's for a reason. you know, there's never been whipped vote on never been a whipped vote on smoking under smoking legislation, even under when labour were in government. and so, you know, it's interesting to see how boris would have voted if he was still in westminster. but you know, thatis in westminster. but you know, that is for each individual mp to decision on. the to make a decision on. the polling suggests it's very, very popular public because popular with the public because people know that the dangers and the can cause the harms that smoking can cause , you know, we know it's a leading risk factor in cancer and disease and stroke. and heart disease and stroke. even from a dental point of view, leading factor why view, it's a leading factor why people lose their teeth if they smoke because their gums recede . smoke because their gums recede. so smoking is, you know, something to something that we need to eradicate it. and the legislation will mean that the next will longer next generation will no longer be able to legally buy cigarettes. >> can ask you, wes streeting >> can i ask you, wes streeting has been outspoken about

has been very outspoken about how nhs needs how he sees the nhs needs reform. it needs a mixture of private and public money to lessen the burden on the working classes. nigel farage has said a similar thing over the years . similar thing over the years. had the labour party stolen a march on you here, isn't that the sort of reform that the conservative party should have been these past conservative party should have bee|years? these past few years? >> we've absolutely >> well, we've absolutely been doing part doing that. that's how part of the we've our the way we've got down our waiting list has been using waiting list has been by using the independent each the independent sector. so each local area will be doing it through their nhs trust. but where the independent sector in their area has capacity, where the independent sector in their be area has capacity, where the independent sector in their be using has capacity, where the independent sector in their be using that apacity, where the independent sector in their be using that ap'well. they'll be using that as well. some community diagnostic they'll be using that as well. some that community diagnostic they'll be using that as well. some that we'velunity diagnostic they'll be using that as well. some that we'velunity di up|ostic centres that we've opened up doing mris , x—ray doing the cts, mris, x—ray scans, some of them are being done with independent providers, providing those dentists are independent providers, as are gp'5, independent providers, as are gp's, and they take on nhs contracts. so the work between the nhs and the independent sector has been going on for decades and actually that's a key reason why we've got many of our waiting lists down. key reason why we've got many of our do iting lists down. key reason why we've got many of our do you lists down. key reason why we've got many of our do you think down. key reason why we've got many of our do you think that|. key reason why we've got many of our do you think that the >> do you think that the conversation around of conversation around reform of the just long, long

the nhs is just long, long overdue? it's almost become like a something which just a church, something which just cannot be criticised. but despite the fact waiting times are slightly down, people still often are fearful of being critical of it because it is this , this ideology. but it is this, this ideology. but it is far from perfect and is the solution to keep pouring endless billions into a bucket that seems to leak. >> no, and we've been very clear about about about that. it's not just about how you spend, it's how much you spend, but it's what on. that's why what you spend it on. that's why our when our money, instead of when labour government labour in government and they frittered it frittered away millions on an it system that never saw the light of day. we're it into of day. we're putting it into surgical we're putting it surgical hubs. we're putting it into it into dentists, we're putting it into community diagnostic centres so that people actually see the difference this money is making. why i got into making. it's why i got into politics. i was a and politics. i was a nurse and i was up working under was fed up with working under the labour government when they were nhs, were in charge of the nhs, because means did they because by no means did they have solutions and have any solutions then, and i'm not ways that not hearing much from ways that we're not doing already, to be honest. we're not doing already, to be honewant quickly you >> i want to quickly ask you again about johnson. lot again about boris johnson. a lot of people that watched gb news, they quite miss him. do you

think rishi sunak has got what it takes going into the next election? we keep hearing about growing numbers of letters going in, maybe a leadership challenge on the cards. >> well, when i'm door knocking, i'm knocking on a lot of doors at the moment. the one thing that people say to me is they're fed up with infighting within that people say to me is they're fed conservatives. ting within that people say to me is they're fed conservatives. they/ithin us that people say to me is they're ferget nservatives. they/ithin us that people say to me is they're ferget on rvatives. they/ithin us that people say to me is they're ferget on and ves. they/ithin us that people say to me is they're ferget on and dealtheyrithin us that people say to me is they're ferget on and deal with ithin us to get on and deal with things like the nhs getting waiting like the nhs and getting waiting lists in personalities and interested in personalities and who said what to who. you know, boris, was a big supporter of boris, i was a big supporter of bofis boris, i was a big supporter of boris myself. you know, he could have you miss him ? have stood for. do you miss him? of course. i think, know, of course. i think, you know, bofis of course. i think, you know, boris than life boris was a larger than life character . he could have stood character. he could have stood in election the in that leadership election the last withdrew . he could last time he withdrew. he could have by—election. have fought the by—election. when was triggered. when the recall was triggered. he chose not to. he chose to resign. you know , so he made resign. you know, so he made some of those decisions for himself. but absolutely . i think himself. but absolutely. i think bofis himself. but absolutely. i think boris has a huge amount to add and on doorstep do and people on the doorstep do miss but want us to miss him, but they want us to get start delivering from get on and start delivering from the for the country. and the figures today prove figures out today prove that we're doing just that. >> superb. thanks joining >> superb. thanks forjoining me

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welcome back. it's 550 on the final furlong. i'm martin daubney on gb news now. my next guest feels that she might be too posh to present on tv anymore . well, the former bbc anymore. well, the former bbc newsreader, of course, the legendary jan leeming says that she no longer gets work because

of her received pronunciation accent. well jan joins me now. jan, absolute pleasure to have you on the show. a wonderful face and a wonderful voice i grew up with as a nipper, and i actually agree with. i never thought people like me, commoners commoners muck would ever get on the tv . and now ever get on the tv. and now you're saying you're not getting any work because you're too posh? tell me more, martin. >> can i put this in perspective? a telegraph journalist contacted me yesterday about this h and h debate , but i don't care. debate, but i don't care. >> i had an irish aunt who always said h, i don't mind and both are equally correct. so i just said, thank you very much. no thank you. so of course they made a story. >> anyway, the story was that one of my twitter followers and i'm on twitter most mostly to present, pieces on animals, rescues, etc. and i should stick to it. >> and this very nice person

said it was an absolute delight to listen to you doing the voiceover for most horrible moments on channel five, you should have more work and you'd be lovely working with animals. so i responded , as i always do. so i responded, as i always do. and when i was a newsreader, i used to always respond to the public's letters and i said, well, you. thank you. ever well, bless you. thank you. ever so much. i surprised i got so much. i was surprised i got that delighted . but i that job and delighted. but i said, actually, these days i'm too old and i speak rp. i do better if i had an accent. i'm not posh. martin i grew up in south—east london. woolwich, right. my father had had a wonderful education in india. he spoke beautifully. he sounded a little bit like richard burton . little bit like richard burton. and when i started sort of, you know, talking like that , he sent know, talking like that, he sent me to speech and drama lessons. thank you very much, father, because i've earned my living , because i've earned my living, what this follower was saying was basically that he could understand me. i enunciate i'm

not against accents. not at all. in fact, some of them are very endearing. i mean, i love eamonn holmes and, you know, gloria hunniford. when she started 40 odd years ago, had a very strong northern ireland accent and she moderated it. if you listen to any of my news bulletins from 40 years ago, i was very, very precise and even my son said, mother, you sound totally different. i've got more relaxed. so the whole thing is, is what what do they call in? in a nutshell, i didn't say that i was too posh. i just said, i'm old, i speak received english, and i don't get work, i would have loved to have done for the love of dogs. that's really me. so that's it in a nutshell . love of dogs. that's really me. so that's it in a nutshell. i didn't say i was too posh. i'm not posh. for heaven's sake. you know, i mean, i can i can turn it on my stepmother would know them. so, you know, i had to be

very careful. bless her. she's dead now. but when i was with her, because i'm an actress and i mimic work, i would find i started slightly speaking to her. i mean, if i were to go out for a drink with you, i would start to be a bit more northern. >> yeah, i would love to go for a drink with you. and i would love to buy you a drink. and i think people watching this jam will be delighted you will be delighted to see you back telly box. i think back on the telly box. i think it's that this it's outrageous that this is happening . i hope people happening. i hope people watching this in the tv business will give you get in touch and say give channelling not i'm not making out . you're on your, making out. you're on your, you're on your haunches. i you're on your haunches. but i think have think it's great to have you back on the tell. it's great to speak to you. i grew up with you back on the tell. it's great to speel to you. i grew up with you back on the tell. it's great to speel to yyour grew up with you back on the tell. it's great to speel to yyour voice. |p with you back on the tell. it's great to spe martin. your voice. |p with you back on the tell. it's great to spe martin. your voiceveryvith you back on the tell. it's great to spe ma but,'our voiceveryvith you back on the tell. it's great to spe ma but, you voiceveryvith you back on the tell. it's great to spe ma but, you know,eryvith you back on the tell. it's great to spe ma but, you know, with you back on the tell. it's great to spe ma but, you know, vaitiold.| sweet. but, you know, i am old. i'm heaven's sake. but, i'm 82, for heaven's sake. but, you still in me. a you know, it's still in me. a lifetime of interviewing people and i can still hack it. but, you know, i'm old and i don't tick the pc boxes, and i don't move, and i live in deepest,

darkest kent. i don't move or shake circles. so. >> okay, well, it's been joyous to have you on the show. jan leeming, thank you very much. i don't think you're too posh at all. i think you're excellent. thanks and thanks forjoining us. and that's and it's now that's all from me. and it's now andifs that's all from me. and it's now and it's time for dewbs& is and it's time for dewbs& co is up next. forget to up next. and don't forget to join 6 am. join us from tomorrow, 6 am. it's with stephen and it's breakfast with stephen and anne, followed by britain's newsroom 930. then, of newsroom at 930. and then, of course , it's tom and with course, it's tom and emily with good britain. i'll be good afternoon britain. i'll be back tomorrow at three. i'm martin daubney gb news now it's your weather and it's annie shuttleworth . shuttleworth. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hello. good afternoon. welcome to your latest gb news. weather update staying mild for the uk through the rest of the day and into friday too. but we will see some rain moving into the north west. this weather front that's have been affecting southern areas has created few southern areas has created a few wiggles waves on it, and

wiggles and waves on it, and this will into this wave will push up into northwestern areas through this evening. so northern ireland are likely heavy bursts likely to see some heavy bursts of the few of rain through the next few hours away of rain through the next few hourwestern away of rain through the next few hourwestern areas away of rain through the next few hourwestern areas of away of rain through the next few hourwestern areas of scotland, into western areas of scotland, northwestern england, cumbria in particular like to see some heavier rain this evening. further south, though, it should remain dry away from the coast and over the hills. but it will remain dry away from the coast an

behind it we see some unsettled weather with showery outbreaks of rain that's also going introduce cooler more introduce cooler air to more northern areas for sunday, so more unsettled and cooler end to northern areas for sunday, so morweekend.ed and cooler end to northern areas for sunday, so morweekend. but1d cooler end to northern areas for sunday, so morweekend. but across er end to northern areas for sunday, so morweekend. but across the nd to the weekend. but across the south it should remain dry. that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers, sponsors of weather on

by by millions upon millions of people. some of them perhaps, would have been new. so i'm asking , did would have been new. so i'm asking, did he do it or not? and asking, did he do it or not? and a bustling high street now is, for most of us, a distant memory. but fear not everyone. the labour party have a five

point plan to fix it. the labour party have a five point plan to fix it . so will it point plan to fix it. so will it work or not? and i'll tell you something that is prominent on lots of high streets right now. that sleepers. the that is rough sleepers. the government criticised government have been criticised for trying to make sleeping rough criminal offence , should rough a criminal offence, should it not. and buses? is it it be or not. and buses? is it time them all to be brought time for them all to be brought into public control? also, i want to ask you tonight, do you think your boss or your colleague should be allowed to contact after hours contact you after work hours over california? they're over in california? they're trying to exactly that. trying to outlaw exactly that. do think we should follow do you think we should follow suit . not? i've got all of suit or. not? i've got all of that to come over the next hour. it's also national pet day as well, isn't it? so lots of you have been sending your pet pictures in. i'll be sharing that with you, of course, over the next hour. but first up, the 6:00 news with polly middlehurst. >> michelle, thank you and good evening to you. well, the top story from the newsroom tonight

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