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potter stars who threw j.k. rowling under the bus for stating basic biological facts . stating basic biological facts. really busy show tonight. two hours of big opinion, big debate and big entertainment. mark dolan tonight is your perfect saturday night in. so crack open a bottle of beer, a lager if you like. maybe a glass of wine or fire up the kettle and let's get to work. two hours of big stories, guests , and big stories, big guests, and big opinion. after the news headunes opinion. after the news headlines with karen armstrong. >> very good evening. i'm aaron armstrong in the gb newsroom. rishi sunak says his heart goes out to all those affected by a knife attack at a shopping mall in sydney that killed six people. the assailant injured a number of others, including a nine month before he nine month old baby, before he was challenged by a member of the the baby remains in the public. the baby remains in critical condition. the child's

mother, named as ash goode , died mother, named as ash goode, died in hospital. 40 year old man mother, named as ash goode, died in heventually 40 year old man mother, named as ash goode, died in h eventually shotyear old man mother, named as ash goode, died in heventually shot dead>ld man mother, named as ash goode, died in h eventually shot dead by man was eventually shot dead by police, who say it wasn't terror related . the australian prime related. the australian prime minister, anthony albanese, has praised bravery of everyone praised the bravery of everyone involved today. >> bondi junction was the scene of shocking violence, but it was also witness to the human city and the heroism of our fellow australians as our brave police, our first responders and of course, everyday people who could never have imagined that they would face such a moment. and some of the footage is quite extraordinary . extraordinary. >> tim, listen has become the latest tory mp to say he'll stand down at the next general election. the backbencher, who represents east worthing and shoreham, served as children's minister in lord cameron's government. he said it was wiser to leave five minutes too soon than to continue for five years too long. he's the latest of 64

conservative mps to announce they're either standing down or not seeking re—election . a man not seeking re—election. a man who died following a stabbing in croydon yesterday has been named as 22 year old richard saleh siafa. met police officers responded to the scene at fellmongers yard at 6 pm. last night. despite efforts from members of the public and emergency services. he died at the scene. a 20 year old man was arrested on suspicion of murder and custody . nine and remains in custody. nine people have been arrested on suspicion of committing public order offences during demonstrations in central london. tens of thousands of pro—palestinian protesters gathered in westminster earlier to call for a ceasefire in gaza and to urge the government to stop selling arms to israel. a counter demonstration against what organisers are calling anti—israel hate also took place in the area. the suspects remain in the area. the suspects remain in police custody . the israeli in police custody. the israeli military has been placed on high

alert in readiness for a potential iranian attack. it comes after iranian special forces seized a commercial ship with links to israel off the coast of the united arab emirates . iran coast of the united arab emirates. iran has coast of the united arab emirates . iran has vowed to emirates. iran has vowed to retaliate for an air strike on its consulate in syria almost two weeks ago, which killed a number of senior officers. israel has cancelled school trips and youth activities ahead of the passover festival and says dozens of combat planes are airborne in preparation . we can airborne in preparation. we can get more on all of our stories by signing up to gb news alerts. scan the qr code on your screen or go to our website for more details. now it's back to . mark. details. now it's back to. mark. >> my thanks to aaron armstrong, who returns in an hour's time. welcome to a very busy mark dolan tonight your perfect saturday night should angela saturday night in should angela rayner step down end rayner step down until the end of police investigation? of her police investigation? i'll be asking a top westminster

insider following the death of oj simpson in a mark dolan tonight exclusive will be joined by oj's former lawyer, man by oj's former lawyer, the man who helped him escape jail. did oj simpson kill his girlfriend? and in my take a10 looking forward to this. i'll be dealing with the pathetic harry potter stars who threw j.k. rowling under the bus for stating basic biological facts. reacting to the big stories of the day, my top pundits tonight claire pearsall mike reid and lisa mckenzie . plus, the most mckenzie. plus, the most important part of the show your opinions. get your views in @gbnews .com forward slash usa. that's right gbnews.com/yoursay and this show has a golden rule we don't do boring. not on my watch. i just won't have it. especially on a saturday night. now listen, have you got a drink in your hand? glass of wine, a been in your hand? glass of wine, a beer, an alcohol free guinness ? beer, an alcohol free guinness? other drinks are available. or what about a lovely pot of

yorkshire tea? whatever you've got in your hands, let's get to work. because it's a busy two hours and we start with my big opinion. remember when stonewall was about standing up for gay people, but wound up throwing lesbians and gays under the bus in the name of trans ideology ? in the name of trans ideology? remember when greenpeace was all about saving the planet, but decided to become overtly political and threatened the prime minister's safety with a dangerous stunt at his private home? remember when the green party were about protecting the environment, but fell silent when we were forced to use those 7 when we were forced to use those ? in my view, worthless masks and pathetic covid tests, which has led to billions of tonnes of plastic languishing in landfill and in our oceans. enter stage left the rspca, a venerated 200 year old institution set up to

end animal cruelty. but their latest advert, which feels like a north korean style propaganda film, was cruel on anyone who had the misfortune to watch it. here's a clip . what you want, baby? >>i baby? >> igot baby? >> i got it. >> i got it. >> what you need? no i got it all. >> i'm asking. >> i'm asking. >> that advert was longer and more boring than oppenheimer anti—meat anti—farming anti—human. the ad uses a song by aretha franklin to sell the message . but i found the whole message. but i found the whole thing. franklin, revolting. like so many charitable bodies swept up in the tide of progressive liberalism, the rspca has become an activist organisation, proved by this two minute rant, which basically implies that farming is bad. we should probably all go vegan and killing or eating animals is wrong, glossing over the fact that beef farming, for

example, feeds millions of people with great nutrition in the form of meat, milk , butter, the form of meat, milk, butter, cheese, whey and even leather for our shoes. weeding out animal cruelty is , of course, animal cruelty is, of course, massively important, and in that the rspca do a fantastic job. but it's not their job to question the existence of farming altogether either. i'm sorry guys, but we eat living things meat, fish, eggs. we always have . we always will. we always have. we always will. we always have. we always will. we always should get over it. in the ad, we're supposed to feel bad for eating chickens as we're shown a vast barn packed with the creatures where it looks all right to me. none of these birds are in cages. they're fed and watered. in fact, that part of the advert made me quite hungry. i was tempted to get kfc on speed other restaurants speed dial. other restaurants are . tellingly, the are available. tellingly, the chief executive of the rspca ,

chief executive of the rspca, chris sherwood, has admitted that whilst recognition for the charity is high, donations are low . i wonder why that would be. low. i wonder why that would be. perhaps it's because, like so many charities , the rspca has many charities, the rspca has lost sight of its original purpose with echoes of the so—called public information films during covid. advert films during covid. this advert from rspca feels like from the rspca feels like so—called nudge messaging, in which you're watching the ad and are meant to feel bad about any animal dying. i'm so sorry guys. the truth is that farmers raise animals and we eat them chickens turn into wings and burgers, salmon find their way into fish pies, and daisy the cow , finds pies, and daisy the cow, finds herself in a bolognese. yes, all of this propaganda from the rspca is utter bolognese , if you rspca is utter bolognese, if you ask me. watching this ad, apparently . mowing the lawn is apparently. mowing the lawn is really bad because it kills bees . is that really the rspca's greatest concern ? as kittens are greatest concern? as kittens are being wheelie bins

greatest concern? as kittens are beinbags wheelie bins greatest concern? as kittens are bein bags of wheelie bins greatest concern? as kittens are beinbags of puppiesvheelie bins greatest concern? as kittens are beinbags of puppies slunge bins greatest concern? as kittens are beinbags of puppies slung intos and bags of puppies slung into the someone gets in the canal? someone gets in trouble in the ad for swatting a fly with a newspaper. isn't that what you're supposed to do? i mean, that's my hobby , if i'm mean, that's my hobby, if i'm honest with you. i find the guardian particularly for good squashing greyhound . squashing moths. greyhound. racing is bad, apparently. well, there can be no fun, can there? in the brave new world of woke. and can't resist the and they can't resist the politically correct mantra of kindness . anyone that spent more kindness. anyone that spent more than on twitter will than 11 seconds on twitter will find that the be kind crowd are anything but. predictably, bbc nature campaigner chris packham p0ps nature campaigner chris packham pops up. a man who has previously said . it may be time previously said. it may be time to break the law to save the planet. his appearance in the ad tells you everything you need to know about about the know about the ad, about the campaign the direction campaign and about the direction of i often of the charity. now, i often donate to the rspca and i'm going to continue to do so, and i urge you to donate as well. so

that their brilliant vets and nurses can put squashed hedgehog hedgehogs back together, howls injured foxes reinflate flattened moggies expose dodgy and cruel farmers and bring disgusting owners who abuse their pets to justice. this is work in which the rspca is peerless and outstanding, and that's what they should stick to protecting animals, not let torturing humans. this is an organisation which is increasingly about politics, not pooches. it's run by campaigners who want to hound the public. now i don't think they should be put down, but it's time the rspca spent some time in the doghouse . your reaction? a brand doghouse. your reaction? a brand new way of communicating with the show . gbnews.com/yoursay the show. gbnews.com/yoursay i'll get to your opinions shortly. but first, my top punst shortly. but first, my top pundits with me. this evening,

former government adviser clare pearson . we also have legendary pearson. we also have legendary radio dj mike read and anarchist author and top professor lisa mckenzie. she is a doctor, but she keeps that quiet. great to see all three of you. clare. welcome to the show the rspca have. well, they strayed into politics here haven't they? i mean we've got no problem with them rescuing drowned rabbits and of but and all the rest of it. but that's the message of this ad. >> no it isn't. they don't like farming. they don't like us squashing flies spiders . and squashing flies or spiders. and there's an awful bit at the end about a snail. somebody looks like they're going to tread on a snail now. they're not doing it deliberately. in way deliberately. it's in the way it's walking you know, it's walking along. you know, these happen . but the these things happen. but the rspca should be about looking after , welfare of after animals, welfare of animals bringing those to animals and bringing those to justice them harm . and justice who do them harm. and that's where it fails. i've had a problem with the rspca . a real problem with the rspca. things have been reported in my local it be dogs , local area, whether it be dogs, cats, donkeys, sheep. cats, horses, donkeys, sheep. rspca come out because

rspca won't come out because they say it doesn't sound as if it meets their threshold . it meets their threshold. >> and yeah, i mean protecting snails. can i tell you that mrs. dolan spends every waking hour trying to kill snails? well my husband is the spider catcher. >> squasher dealer of. because that's what i don't like them. i run away from them. he has to deal with them, and they have to go. and i'm afraid they have to be dead. >> well, i've definitely got nigel alpha nigel nelson in the alpha male category. given. category. that's a given. speaking mike speaking of which, mike reid, how evening? how are you this evening? >> well, thank you. >> i'm very well, thank you. yes, a lot of people throw snails, into their snails, don't they, into their neighbour's here. >> e pleasure @— here. >> pleasure to throw >> it's a pleasure to throw them. a great crunching >> it's a pleasure to throw them. when great crunching >> it's a pleasure to throw them. when they crunching >> it's a pleasure to throw them. when they land.:hing being sound when they land. am i being naughty? to get naughty? am i going to get cancelled rspca? cancelled by the rspca? >> yes >> probably, yes. yes >> probably, yes. yes >> well, here's the thing, mike. i mean, you're a broadcaster. you're a communicator. what did you make of the ad? is it good communications or have they, have crossed line? have they crossed the line? >> yeah. wondering >> yeah. i'm wondering whether it's that it's the advertising agency that have whether have led them into this, whether they have suggested it as a call and a woke thing to do. wouldn't

this be a good idea? aretha franklin is not around to say, no, you can't use that because a lot of people wouldn't in certain situations say, no, no, i'm sorry. you know, political things. they say, you can't use my thank very much , my song. thank you very much, whether the advertising whether it's the advertising agency down, agency that's led them down, this route, i don't but this route, i don't know, but whether could be taken whether the r could be taken away because, of course, the king has farms. away because, of course, the king has farms . charles has king has farms. charles has farms. very true. so if they're anti farms , maybe the r might be anti farms, maybe the r might be taken away. and it could be the spca . spca. >> i definitely think there was an undertone that eating meat is bad, that farming is somehow cruel. is that an overinterpretation? lisa. >> i think i the thing i didn't like about it is that suggesting that people who eat meat don't respect animals. and that's not true, because i eat meat and i but i also would never harm an animal. i don't even believe in pets. i don't think animals should be in. i think , should be in. i think, captivity. i just don't think that, you know, but so i never harm i even i set the principle

that cows are farmed by professionals and we eat, eat. >> yeah . >> yeah. >> yeah. >> and i also, you know, i'm also a humanist. so i start, you know, i think imagine all know, i think imagine we all stopped tomorrow. we stopped eating meat tomorrow. we watched this and we go, oh my god, this is outrageous. we're not going to eat meat anymore. how tomorrow are to how tomorrow are we going to feed each other? because the level sort plant food is level of sort of plant food is not there to sustain us. and, you know, i do i do think as natural beings , meat is part of natural beings, meat is part of our. oui'. >> our. >> and we need a protein. >> and we need a protein. >> yeah. we need the protein. >> yeah. we need the protein. >> we need protein. we're omnivores we are sort of omnivores and we are our sort of dental makeup that. dental makeup suggest that. however, side to however, there is a flip side to this pearsall, which this claire pearsall, which is that simply really that the rspca are simply really reinforcing what they've always stood for, which is to protect the natural world and in particular the animals that inhabh particular the animals that inhabit it. particular the animals that inhabhit.so particular the animals that inhabit it. so why should we discriminate meat from, you know, the difference of a drowned moggie or a squashed hedgehog? point is the hedgehog? their point is the same, we are here to same, which is we are here to protect all animals, and that's what they want to communicate.

>> and that's absolutely fine as a message. but what you don't do is demonise farming is demonise the farming industry. and i think you're right that you don't eat right that if you don't eat meat, so many other meat, then so many other industries fall down. you've got you've got the dairy industry . you've got the dairy industry. those farmers are under enormous pressure but it's pressure already, but it's things like leather. we all like to wear leather shoes, have a leather bag . it's all of those leather bag. it's all of those by—products of i don't by—products of it. so i don't think can demonise one think you can demonise one industry and say that they're all they're all terrible because they're not. there are some rogue farmers out there. yeah, let's all with but you can't all agree with it. but you can't say and if you are there say that. and if you are there to protect yeah to protect animals. yeah absolutely. their absolutely. look at their conditions. look at the welfare of those animals. but farming is an industry sustains this entire country and needs to be funded. >> this idea that it's anti farming that an farming is that an overinterpretation. but perhaps they that they might argue in the ad that they're focusing on the rogue farmers who are cruel to their cows and their chickens and their isn't what their hens, but that isn't what they're showing . they're showing. >> yeah. they're showing these very lovely job. >> that the rspca's job to >> isn't that the rspca's job to kind of we give money to the rspca so they can go and find

out and stop that sort of thing. yeah. you know, rather than i think this is this is not just zero sum politics again, where you're either you eat meat bad, don't respect animals or god, do you know. and it's just the every single organisation are going for this zero some thing. >> okay. well what do you think folks ? are the rspca wrong to folks? are the rspca wrong to put out an ad which has been perceived as anti meat and anti farming? is farming a problem in this country? would you like to us go plant based? let me know your thoughts. we have a brand new way communicating new way of communicating gbnews.com/yoursay usa. coming up next in the big story. should angela rayner step down until the end of her police investigation ? i'll be asking investigation? i'll be asking a top westminster insider.

next. big reaction to my big opinion. it's all about the rspca. it's 200 years old. it's there to protect animals that are being abused and treated badly. well, i think they've gone beyond their brief. i think they've gone woke. they've gone political. many you agree political. and many of you agree it's an advert which they are it's an advert in which they are anti and anti—meat at anti farming and anti—meat at least that's the perception. plant based diet. no chance , plant based diet. no chance, says barry lewis, a member of gb news. maureen says the rspca are not fit for purpose . haven't not fit for purpose. haven't been for years and when they'll put an rspca assured sticker on halal meat, you will understand that rspca we are omnivores, we benefit more from following an omnivore diet . and how about omnivore diet. and how about this from tina? good evening tina, how are you? tina says i volunteer for a rescue group. we were called out to dogs which were called out to dogs which were being treated badly. there were being treated badly. there were three rspca who went out and said they would go back in three days. in this time one died. to say, the rspca

died. needless to say, the rspca were useless. they got rspca pro—animal anti—human is what john says . look, feelings are john says. look, feelings are running very high. of course, the rspca would argue that they are there to protect animals and that they do their very to best do just that. okay folks, we've got breaking news. let's got some breaking news. let's head over to aaron armstrong in our news desk. >> the breaking news is that the israeli military says dozens of iranian drones are said to be en route towards israel. it's believed dozens of pilots aircraft are heading towards israeli targets. they're equipped with explosives. now, israel's defence forces say they are well prepared. they say it will take hours to reach the country. sirens are set to sound in any threatened areas . their in any threatened areas. their spokesperson, rear admiral daniel hagari , says we've daniel hagari, says we've prepared for diverse scenarios in advance in order to accept intercept these launches. we have circles of protection from both the navy and the air force

on several layers. if they do enter israeli airspace , he says, enter israeli airspace, he says, then you will hear sirens and alarms wherever these threats enter, we will intercept them. israel has been on heightened alert ever since an airstrike almost two weeks ago on the iranian consulate in damascus in syria. it killed a number of top military targets. ever since then , iran has vowed to then, iran has vowed to retaliate. it's been threatening a response. the us has said it would come sooner rather than later. that was joe biden speaking yesterday , and now it speaking yesterday, and now it appears to have been launched towards israel, which it says is ready for the potential threat . ready for the potential threat. >> my thanks to aaron armstrong. so this is a developing story. the news broken there by aaron armstrong in our newsroom . iran armstrong in our newsroom. iran has launched drones at israel and they will arrive in several hours. this is obviously an escalation of what looks to have

been a growing conflict. over the last few days, iran has launched a salvo of drones at israel. according to the israeli military. they've made a statement the israeli military forces have said we've prepared forces have said we've prepared for diverse scenarios in advance in order to intercept these launches. in order to intercept these launches . we have these circles launches. we have these circles of protection from both the navy and the air force on several layers. these are live pictures from israel that you're currently watching. if you're watching us on gb news, the idf go on to explain. that's israel's defence forces that the unmanned aircraft will take several hours to reach israel, and sirens will sound if any areas are under threat. they went on to say we're going to try to prevent them from reaching israeli territory. that is our task . he goes on to say, is our task. he goes on to say, rather ominously, that if they do enter israeli airspace, then you will hear sirens and alarms wherever these threats enter, and we will intercept them . that

and we will intercept them. that was a spokesperson from the idf rear admiral daniel hagari. so, folks, this is a very serious situation. it is an escalating situation. it is an escalating situation . no, we're going to situation. no, we're going to talk about angela rayner in just a moment , but talk about angela rayner in just a moment, but i'm delighted to say that the guests we booked is the former editor of the sunday mirror, who has covered foreign stories extensively. paul connew, show. stories extensively. paul conn reaction show. stories extensively. paul conn reaction to show. stories extensively. paul conn reaction to this show. stories extensively. paul conn reaction to this escalation your reaction to this escalation between iran and israel , with between iran and israel, with iran having sent drones to israel ? israel? >> on one level, it's not surprising that iran's retaliating. but what is surprising , perhaps, is that surprising, perhaps, is that they're doing it directly from iran on aimed at israel rather than via proxies . and i think than via proxies. and i think thatis than via proxies. and i think that is a surprise. and the interesting thing is, going to be, you know, interesting, i say, but dangerous is how israel responds. but of course, they've got a very , very sophisticated got a very, very sophisticated steel dome system. and how many

of the of these drones get through is open to question. but the next the next question is how does israel react? does it launch a major counterattack ? launch a major counterattack? would it attack iran directly? and how will america play this? depending on the scale of the iranian attack and how many , if iranian attack and how many, if any, get through and hit targets within israel? >> well, indeed, of course, israel's focus has been hamas since the october the 7th attacks almost six months ago to the day . but of course, this is the day. but of course, this is a much more significant player in geopolitical terms. iran, who are certainly hopeful of developing nuclear weapons at some point , a developing nuclear weapons at some point, a long standing foe of the west of the united states of the west of the united states of the west of the united states of the united kingdom. could britain and america get dragged into some kind of conflict here? paul that's that's that's quite

possible. although the israelis are pretty well equipped and i think president biden would be reluctant unless this attack starts to get through and cause casualties and damage in israel. i think. i think he will be issuing condemnation rather than , than the than the american fleet, which is in the red sea area, launching any attacks on it on iran. but i think a lot of analysts were expecting iran to continue using its proxies with not a direct attack itself. but l, not a direct attack itself. but i, i wasn't that surprised because the humiliation for iran in a way, of their consulate being attacked in, you know, in a different country and almost certainly by israel, although israel never officially owned up to it. but there's no doubt that it was israel and killing two very senior generals , it would

very senior generals, it would be a humiliation, you know, for the iranian public. so it's no surprise that iran had to had to react. but doing it directly is the surprise element . the surprise element. >> well, paul connew, former editor of the sunday mirror, please stay with us. let's now speak to the evening standard's defence editor, robert fox. robert your reaction to this shocking development in the middle east? if you're just joining us on the radio or on television , let me bring you up television, let me bring you up to speed. iran has launched drones at israel, which are expected to arrive in several hours. the israeli military has said we've prepared for diverse scenarios in advance . if these scenarios in advance. if these drones reach israeli territory, sirens will sound and the drones will be destroyed. robert fox, your reaction ? your reaction? >> yes, it's quite a surprise that they have launched a drone attack from iran . this is what

attack from iran. this is what the idf, the israel defence force, is saying because it does give a long lead time. the real, another scenario would be if behind this they launched ballistic missiles, because then the travel time is just a matter of a few minutes. and there has been some question whether you have a combination of drone and missiles, whether they could overwhelm the radars of the, aerial defences of the iron dome system doing it this way by giving notice, as we heard from the previous speaker, it's high risk for iran. but to answer a point that has just been raised, i think the proxies are not very keen to get involved in this one. on behalf of iran. iran has been egging on its its pals in the hezbollah of, lebanon to go on.and the hezbollah of, lebanon to go on. and they've been launching hundreds of rockets . rockets are hundreds of rockets. rockets are very different, both from drones

and from missiles, and they don't want to seem to go much further. in other words, hezbollah in south lebanon, they've had plenty of experience of this, do not want an all out war with israel. so this this is a problem and it's very funny. yes it is. it is revenge, for the attack on the damascus consulate on the 1st of april. but it's a very high risk. and as i was saying on gb news earlier today, there's a bit of an indication that iran is overstretched because it now appears to be picking fights, or involved in wars and conflicts on five different fronts , and we on five different fronts, and we have to see what is going to happenif have to see what is going to happen if one of these explosive drones gets through and hits a major target in israel, then we are in a completely different ball game because america will come in. >> and how might that manifest itself? robert fox, america's involvement i think that they

will organise attacks on iranian targets, and i don't rule out i don't think there'll be a land invasion, but i don't rule out some strategic target inside iran being taken out by a joint israeli american operation , israeli american operation, briefly, robert, before i come back to you, paul connew , do back to you, paul connew, do iran have nuclear weapons ? iran have nuclear weapons? >> they sort of do. but that they're not really highly developed . they're not in developed. they're not in a position, for , to, to prosecute position, for, to, to prosecute a war because if they went anywhere near that, i mean, it's only a handful of warheads. if they have have that the retribution would be enormous. and by the way , in doing that, and by the way, in doing that, they play into benjamin netanyahu's hands because it has always been a suspicion that for years that he has wanted to engage america in a real strike on iran before it becomes an

effective nuclear military power i >> -- >> paul connew, editor of the former editor of the sunday mirror , a political broadcaster mirror, a political broadcaster and writer. can i ask you , what and writer. can i ask you, what do you think iran's goals are here with this strike? if you're just joining us, iran have sent drones to israel, which the idf , drones to israel, which the idf, the israeli forces have said they will shoot down. what are iran playing at? does it go beyond revenge ? beyond revenge? >> i think at this stage it's as much about, domestic politics in iran because to be seen to be to do nothing would obviously enrage, the iranian public. plus it would also, give some, some power to those who oppose the brutal, repressive iranian regime. but robert made the strong point that they do have ballistic missiles, non—nuclear ballistic missiles, non—nuclear ballistic missiles, non—nuclear

ballistic missiles . and if they ballistic missiles. and if they do follow the drones with those, and that takes it up to an even higher level. my gut feeling is that they won't go that far. but but you never know. but picking up again for another point of roberts, i think netanyahu , in roberts, i think netanyahu, in a sense, as long as his drones don't cause any major casualties in israel , don't cause any major casualties in israel, will be quite pleased in israel, will be quite pleased in a way, because a he thinks it'll bring america more strongly on the side as opposed to the, you know , to the not to the, you know, to the not particularly muted criticism that we've had from from president biden. and also, of course, there's another big domestic crisis in israel when netanyahu , who i'm a big netanyahu, who i'm a big supporter of israel, but not of netanyahu, i think is a disaster. and the scale, the scale of the response to the appalling hamas terrorist massacre of innocent israeli citizens. but i, you know, no

one can can, can call that anything but horrendous and disgusting . and israel was disgusting. and israel was entitled to respond. but the scale of the of the response and retribution in terms of civilian carnage is horrific and almost certainly , almost certainly does certainly, almost certainly does constitute a crime against international humanitarian law. and, you know, and therefore , and, you know, and therefore, netanyahu is basically clinging to the to the leadership even before october the 7th, the failures of israel's, you know, much vaunted defence system in allowing october the 7th to actually happen further undermine his leadership. and he's only clinging on now because the nation, in a sense, always rallies. if you're attacked or in a war situation, the temptation or the inclination is to pull together . inclination is to pull together. but that's starting to crumble

now. the protests against netanyahu are are gathering pace . and don't forget that before october the 7th, this was this was a this was a leader facing corruption charges and many of the reservists who are now fighting in gaza were at one point before october 7 were talking about refusing to sign up, as it were, because of the of netanyahu's attempt to undermine the israeli judicial system and its independence. >> okay, okay, paul connew, thank you so much. robert fox . thank you so much. robert fox. thank you so much. of course, we'll keep you up to date on this developing story, but if you're joining us, let me you're just joining us, let me bnng you're just joining us, let me bring you up to speed. iran has launched drones at israel. all israeli forces are on full alert amid this threat. they've said that they will shoot the drones down if they reach israeli

territory. this follows an earlier incident in which iran seized israeli linked cargo , an seized israeli linked cargo, an israeli linked cargo ship, with 25 crew on board earlier today. so the situation in the middle east, middle east escalating. and of course, this has implications for israel's stated military aim of eliminating hamas. why? well, because hamas are supported by iran. it's a complex situation which will be un picking later on when the papers come in at 1030. the next up, following his death earlier this week, i'm joined live from the united states by oj simpson's lawyer.

welcome back. if you're just joining us, let me tell you that in an unprecedented move, iran has launched upwards of 50 drones in the direction of israel. now, the idf , the

israel. now, the idf, the israeli defence forces have said that they are ready to bring down these pilotless aircraft. if they reach israeli territory. rear admiral daniel hajari says israel is well for prepared the attack. you can see if you're joining us on television that we got live pictures from tel aviv, which is currently peaceful , but which is currently peaceful, but 50 to 100 of these pilotless aircraft are headed towards israel in what is a major escalation in tensions in the middle east. and i'm being told that airspace in israel will be closed from 12:30 pm. tonight. more on that shortly , but lots more on that shortly, but lots more to get through in a very busy show now. oj simpson, the iconic american footballer and comedy film actor whose career was overshadowed by a trial in which he was acquitted for the murders of his former wife , murders of his former wife, nicole brown, and her friend ron goldman in 1994, has died at the age of 76. for reaction, i'm now

joined by legendary american lawyer and law professor alan dershowitz, who has represented celebrity clients such as mike tyson , julian assange and former tyson, julian assange and former president donald trump . well, president donald trump. well, his work alongside johnnie cochran and f lee bailey saw oj simpson walk free following the allegations of murder and that notorious car chase watched by millions around the world, mr dershowitz, welcome to mark dolan tonight. do you mourn the passing of oj simpson? >> well, first i want to comment. my mind is not on oj simpson right now. my mind is on israel. this is perfect opportunity for england for the united states, for israel to bnng united states, for israel to bring about regime change in iran, which would solve virtually all the problems in the middle east. it would get rid of hamas, hezbollah, the houthis . it rid of hamas, hezbollah, the houthis. it would rid of hamas, hezbollah, the houthis . it would allow for houthis. it would allow for peace between israel and the saudis. it's a perfect opportunity to bring about regime change, which 70% of iranians want. but do we have

the courage to do it? it would be a wise decision . it would be be a wise decision. it would be a decision that would have saved britain so much if they had done that in germany in the mid 19305, that in germany in the mid 1930s, as goebbels himself said. so my mind is very much in the middle east. but let me turn to oj simpson . no, i don't mourn oj simpson. no, i don't mourn his death. i didn't know him other than a client. i'm like a doctor who treated a patient . i doctor who treated a patient. i was not his friend. i had little contact with him after the case, he may have been guilty. he may have been innocent. my job was to demonstrate that police had planted evidence against him. in an effort to try to enhance the strength of the case. they believed he was guilty, and they were frame what they were trying to frame what they believed man. they believed was a guilty man. they poured oj simpson and poured blood of oj simpson and one victims from one of his alleged victims from test tubes onto a sock that they then produced as evidence, but they didn't realise that the blood contained a telltale chemical, edta, which is not found in the human body but is

found in the human body but is found only in test tubes to prevent internal coagulation. so they were caught with their pants down. and i think many of the jurors said, look, there's a lot of evidence against simpson. he may very well be guilty, but we're not going to convict based on police tampering with evidence and the fact that it was a predominantly jury , was a predominantly black jury, i think that because they i think helped that because they were to evidence planting, were used to evidence planting, it was common against black people, particularly when they were shootings suddenly a gun would show up if there was a shooting of a black person, a gun would show. it was called a saturday night special. planted by the police on the defendant to defend themselves . so, you to defend themselves. so, you know, this was a case with a mixed legacy. perhaps a guilty free, better tend guilty go free than one innocent, be confined, but it exposed the depths of, divisions racially . it exposed divisions racially. it exposed police corruption in los angeles and on balance. on balance , the and on balance. on balance, the result was good for law enforcement notwithstanding .

enforcement notwithstanding. >> a botched job by prosecutors. is it your personal view that 0.1. is it your personal view that oj. simpson did kill his ex—wife, a lawyer can never disclose that kind of information. >> i think there was enough evidence to convict him. if the evidence to convict him. if the evidence had been not been tampered with, there was also enough evidence to create a reasonable doubt , enough evidence to create a reasonable doubt, you enough evidence to create a reasonable doubt , you know, he reasonable doubt, you know, he he he's going to have to make his case before the heavenly court about his actual guilt or innocence . that's not the job of innocence. that's not the job of an earthly court. an earthly court's job is to assess the evidence and determine whether , evidence and determine whether, on the basis of admissible, fairly obtained evidence, the case has been proved beyond a reasonable doubt. the jury came to right verdict , though to the right verdict, though history to a very history may come to a very different history may come to a very diffwell, you were doing >> well, indeed, you were doing your and you have a yourjob, and you have a remarkable rate in in remarkable hit rate in in helping those you represent. however did you have any concerns when o.j. however did you have any concerns when oj. simpson walked free? did that bother

you? >>i , you? >>i,i you? >> i, i always do. i have a policy i never go to victory parties. i didn't go to the victory case. there are dead people. look, i would have represented the goldmans and the browns if they had called me first, they were entitled to representation . i mourn their representation. i mourn their deaths, and i commend the goldmans and the browns for standing up for the memory of their deceased people. you have to remember , professionals are to remember, professionals are just like you're a professional when you report on the news, you don't take a position and lawyers in the same way. but of course, as human beings , we're course, as human beings, we're concerned. but remember, the vast majority of people in great britain and america who are charged with crime are guilty . charged with crime are guilty. thank god for that. would we want to live in a country with a majority charged majority of people charged were not be iran . not guilty? that would be iran. that would be russia. that would be, north korea . but in our be, north korea. but in our countries, you have to defend the guilty as zealously as you defend the innocent, especially in so many cases. you don't know

you're showing the glove now . i you're showing the glove now. i was sitting two feet away from him when he tried the glove on. and this was the biggest mistake any lawyer has ever made in my 60 years of practice. under the law, have made him law, they could have made him try on the glove. previously, before showing it to the jury and made a decision only after seeing if it fit. but the arrogant prosecutors decided to do this demonstration in front of the jury . and i was literally of the jury. and i was literally sitting there watching the jury reaction when that happened. and itold reaction when that happened. and | told 0.1. reaction when that happened. and i told o.j. right after that, you don't have to testify. you've already spoken to the jury , you you've already spoken to the jury , you haven't been jury, you haven't been cross—examined. and if you testify, they will destroy you on cross—examination, as they did in the civil case when he testified. and fortunately, he took my advice . took my advice. >> mr dershowitz, a privilege to have you on the show and when i'm in trouble, i know who to call. >> well, i hope you don't get in trouble. rather not have trouble. i'd rather not have compliance. hope for compliance. and, let's hope for peace in the middle east. >> no, stephanie, thank you for your to that

your contribution to that developing if you're developing story. if you're just joining us, iran has launched unmanned aircraft in the direction of israel. they have sent drones upwards of 50 unmanned aircraft headed to israel. the idf, the israeli defence forces have said they're ready for the attack. they will strike down the drones if they reach israeli territory. we've got live pictures from tel aviv as we speak currently peaceful, but of course we'll stay across this story, which looks to be a further of complexity in further layer of complexity in what is happening in the middle east. but next up in my take at ten, at 10:00, i'll be dealing with the pathetic harry potter stars who through jk rowling under the bus for stating basic biological facts. but next up we've got mark meets and a new development, a new theory about why the titanic sank. we'll find out

next. busy show. i'll be dealing with

those terrible hypocrites who were so obnoxious to jk rowling, the stars of the harry potter films in my take at ten. but first, mark meets. and this week, new evidence is coming to light about the cause of the sinking of the titanic. new reports suggest an optical illusion caused by freak weather could have played a role in the tragedy. the times newspapers share evidence suggesting a mirage could have obscured the massive struck the massive iceberg that struck the ship, leaving it impossible to spot in time . of course, this spot in time. of course, this all happened on april the 14th, 1912, when the supposedly unsinkable titanic and its 2240 passengers and crew sank into the ocean. well to reflect on the ocean. well to reflect on the greatest maritime tragedy in history and its possible causes. i'm delighted to welcome titanic historian shelley binder, whose great grandmother and great uncle mercifully survived the disaster. shelley, great to have you back on the show. does this new theory about mirage have any

credibility ? credibility? >> great to see you again, mark, yes, i believe that this is a very well documented, marie . an very well documented, marie. an anomaly. and it's quite possible that there was a false horizon that there was a false horizon that was created by extreme conditions that that evening, for sure , which effectively for sure, which effectively lists the horizon and, effectively makes the, the, real surface of the sea and the iceberg invisible. >> is there any tangible evidence that the captain of the ship was reckless , or that the ship was reckless, or that the crew were trying to break a speed record to cross the atlantic ? atlantic? >> no, i don't believe so, i first of all, the cunard company, line was known for speed. mauretania, lusitania .

speed. mauretania, lusitania. and those ships were really built to be some of the fastest in the world. in fact, they were known to have won the blue riband and that the titanic really wasn't a contender to win that, she simply was not built for that. she was more built for luxury . and also, of course, as luxury. and also, of course, as an immigrant ship. so, no, i my feeling is that no, they were not trying to speed across the atlantic . and in fact, you know, atlantic. and in fact, you know, they had no chance of, of actually doing that. >> how worried were the captain and crew about icebergs? was it and crew about icebergs? was it a known threat? shelley >> absolutely. it was a known threat, in fact, it edward smith took precautions to go in a more southerly route knowing that this was a possibility during

this was a possibility during this season . and so he did take this season. and so he did take precautions to try and avoid that. and also something that's not often mentioned is that the rules that he followed with regard to the speed that he went was not uncommon . it was well was not uncommon. it was well accepted. so is i have , very accepted. so is i have, very solid feelings about, captain smith , if you look at my great smith, if you look at my great grandmother's accounts in the newspaper, her feelings about captain smith were not so fond. she was obviously vie, not a fan. and insinuated that he had , fan. and insinuated that he had, that she could see him when she was in the lifeboat and that she saw him go into a lifeboat and

then get back out , step back on then get back out, step back on deck, contemplate again , go back deck, contemplate again, go back in and so forth. my feeling is that he was taking women into the lifeboat and women and children, and that he was and would not consider saving himself . would not consider saving himself. there's in my mind absolutely no scenario i can think of where he would have considered that , he that was not considered that, he that was not his. okay personal. >> shelley, i wish we had longer. but of course this breaking story in israel has used up a lot of our time. we'll definitely get you back couple of seconds. should they a of seconds. should they build a titanic two? >> well, clive palmer has, tried this a numerous times in australia as you, might know. and, it had difficulties with the funding, and it's well

thought of in the titanic community that this, this simply won't happen. >> okay, well, listen, shelly, let's do longer next time. we'll hopefully won't have any geopolitical dramas that interrupt what is a fascinating conversation, greg, will be in touch, and we'll definitely get you back on the show. my thanks to the titanic historian, the one and only binder. what one and only shelly binder. what a fascinating story that remains. speaking drama remains. well, speaking of drama , iran has launched drones at israel. here are live pictures from tel aviv in israel . the idf from tel aviv in israel. the idf have said that they anticipated this attack, that they are ready to strike down. what could be a 100 drones unmanned aircraft headed towards israel in what is clearly an escalation of tensions in the region . what are tensions in the region. what are the implications for peace in the implications for peace in the area? for israel's stated military aim of wiping out hamas, who, of course, are

supported by iran ? and let me supported by iran? and let me tell you that airspace will close in on israel at 1230 this evening. of course , you'll get evening. of course, you'll get all the information you need. we've got a

next. it's 10:00. next. it's10:00. on television. on radio and online in the united kingdom and across the world. this is mark dolan tonight. i'll be dealing with the pathetic harry potter stars . who through harry potter stars. who through jk the for jk rowling under the bus for stating basic biological facts as they embrace for a very pubuc as they embrace for a very public photo at the polo. could harry and meghan be forced to return to the uk if harry has his visa revoked ? plus, his visa revoked? plus, tomorrow's newspaper front pages and live reaction in the studio from tonight's top pundits and

tonight's developing story, let's hand over to . the news and let's hand over to. the news and bnng let's hand over to. the news and bring you the latest aaron armstrong. take it away. >> very good evening to you. it's 10:00. i'm >> very good evening to you. it's10:00. i'm aaron >> very good evening to you. it's 10:00. i'm aaron armstrong. it's10:00. i'm aaron armstrong. well, as you have been hearing, iran has launched dozens of drones and cruise missiles towards israel, which are expected hours . expected to arrive within hours. the israeli military says it's well prepared for the attack with sirens set to sound in any threatened its threatened areas like its biggest city, tel aviv. the country on heightened country has been on heightened alert an air strike alert ever since an air strike on the iranian embassy syria on the iranian embassy in syria last which killed a number last week, which killed a number of top commanders. tehran holds israel responsible and has vowed to retaliate. israel closed to retaliate. israel has closed its . the drones are its airspace. the drones are expected to arrive around midnight uk time. expected to arrive around midnight uk time . iraq has midnight uk time. iraq has announced it's doing the same, while jordan has declared a state of emergency, saying it's ready to shoot down any iranian aircraft that violates its airspace . meanwhile, the white

airspace. meanwhile, the white house says president biden is being regularly. updated about the situation. he's cut short a trip to delaware and on his way back to washington, dc to meet national security advisers and members of his cabinet. now, the us has been trying to de—escalate tension in the region prevent a wider region to prevent a wider conflict. last night conflict. although last night president said expected conflict. although last night preiranian said expected conflict. although last night preiranian attack;aid expected conflict. although last night pre iranian attack;aid israel pected an iranian attack on israel sooner later, his sooner rather than later, his message was don't . rishi message to iran was don't. rishi sunak says his heart goes out to all those affected by a knife attack at a shopping mall in sydney that killed six people. the assailant injured a number of others, including a nine month old baby, before he was challenged by a member of the public. challenged by a member of the pubuc.the challenged by a member of the public. the remains in public. the baby remains in critical condition. the child's mother, named as the 38 year old ash good, died in hospital . the ash good, died in hospital. the assailant was eventually shot dead by police. they say it was not terror related . tim loughton not terror related. tim loughton has become the latest tory mp to say he'll stand down at the next

general election. the backbenchen general election. the backbencher, who represents east worthing and shoreham, served as children's minister in david cameron's government. he said it was wiser to leave five minutes too soon than to continue for five years too long. he is the latest of 64 conservative mps to announce they're either standing down or not seeking re—election . down or not seeking re—election. a man who died following a stabbing in croydon yesterday has been named as the 22 year old richard saleh siafa. met police officers responded to the scene at fellmongers yard at 6:00 last night, despite efforts from members of the public and the emergency services. he died at the scene. a 20 year old man was arrested on suspicion of murder and remains in custody murder and he remains in custody . nine people have been arrested on suspicion of committing pubuc on suspicion of committing public order offences during demonstrations in central london. tens of thousands of pro—palestinian protesters gathered in westminster earlier to call for a ceasefire in gaza

and to urge the government to stop selling arms to israel . a stop selling arms to israel. a counter demonstration against what organisers are calling anti israel hate also took place in the area. the suspects remain in custody . for more the area. the suspects remain in custody. for more on all of our stories, including our developing news concerning those attacks on israel, you can scan the qr code on your screen for gb news alerts or go to our website for more. now it's back to . mark. to. mark. >> welcome to mark dolan tonight. more on that unprecedented attack from iran on israel . upwards of 50 on israel. upwards of 50 unmanned drones sent to israel in what is a major escalation of tensions in the middle east. what are the implications for israel's stated aim of wiping out hamas, who are supported by iran? it's a hot mess in the middle east, and we'll bring you more reaction shortly, including with tomorrow's papers at 1030.

also tonight, as they embrace for a photo at the polo, could harry and meghan be forced to return to the uk if harry has his visa revoked? i'll be asking the queen of us royal reporting kinsey schofield about the prince's growing legal troubles, plus tomorrow's newspaper front pages. as i said, and live reaction from my top pundits this evening, we've pushed out the boat. anarchist and author doctor lisa mckenzie, former government adviser claire pearsall and radio legend mike reid . so a packed hour. more on reid. so a packed hour. more on israel shortly . and those papers israel shortly. and those papers are coming. but first, a bit of showbiz and my take at ten. we're getting to the point where the creation of harry potter, which has generated £20 billion worth of box office receipts , worth of box office receipts, merchandise and book sales, and which managed to get a

generation of young people reading, is just possible that all of that isn't even j.k. rowling's biggest achievement. this is a remarkable woman who struggled as a single mother, suffered domestic abuse , and suffered domestic abuse, and whose book idea for a little wizard with a scar on his forehead was rejected by no less than 12 publishers. she writes the first manuscript, harry potter and the philosopher's stone , on a tiny table at the stone, on a tiny table at the elephant house cafe in edinburgh, on a basic notebook which is now a priceless document and destined for a museum. her fantasy world of spells and sorcery was in stark contrast to her real life privations in the writing of those books, she created a magical escape for herself and her billions of readers. like dickens, shakespeare and austen. she will be read forever. it doesn't stop at the books and

movies . there's a theme park, movies. there's a theme park, tea towels, t shirts, pens, pencils . rubbers. there are pencils. rubbers. there are harry potter action figures, board games, and inevitably, there is harry potter lego. of course, there is . jk rowling was course, there is. jk rowling was an ordinary woman with an extraordinary talent which, like a magic carpet, has lifted her into the creative and financial stratosphere for. and yet and yet and yet, like the fearless and hilarious comedians ricky gervais and dave chappelle in the united states, what's most admirable about this woman is that she's used her wealth and her platform to call out the madness of extreme transgender ideology. this week , the ideology. this week, the shocking cass review confirmed what many of us have been saying for a long time and were called bigots for even mentioning that the transitioning of children is deeply harmful for their bodies

and their mental health. it is wrong. whilst rowling has always been the first to argue that a grown adult should be able to identify by ever which gender they seek to have and they should receive respect, dignity , should receive respect, dignity, love and support, i completely agree, but of that should agree, but none of that should come at the expense of women's hard won sex based rights. female only changing rooms, female only. toilets. women's sports hospital wards where there is no place for a biological man . not long ago, biological man. not long ago, isla bryson real name adam graham, a vile double rapist, was accommodated in a female prison. i rest my case. rowling has been criticised for her so—called views, her opinions on genden so—called views, her opinions on gender. these aren't views, they're not opinions. these are facts . there are two sexes, male facts. there are two sexes, male and female . in the end, rowling and female. in the end, rowling gets described as gender

critical. well, let me correct you. there she is gender factual, which is why the vile death and rape threats on rowling, our greatest living author, are so appalling. but as author, are so appalling. but as a woman who has suffered domestic abuse in her own life, this literary hero is in no mood to put up with abuse from angry men in dresses. and she gives as good as she gets. she slays them like dragons every day on social media, this feminist icon has pushed back on what at times feels like a men's rights movement, with blokes all over again bullying, scaring, controlling and dominating women, misogyny, sexism . i'm the women, misogyny, sexism. i'm the story of history. this time dressed up in lipstick and high heels . but dressed up in lipstick and high heels. but i'm most offended by the pathetic child actors in the harry potter films who wasted no time in throwing a woman who gave them their careers , fame

gave them their careers, fame and riches under the bus. harry potter leading actor daniel radcliffe, who is no intellectual wizard, let me tell you, apologised to any harry potter fans who felt that their experience of the books has been tarnished or diminished by rowling's stance. i'd like to do a spell and turn him into a cat. what a pussy. work men like actor turned property tycoon. thanks to the bountiful millions accrued from rowling's work, rupert grint has reiterated the nonsensical mantra that trans women are women and trans men are men, a cult like statement that even key figures in the labour party, such as wes streeting, are now quietly abandoning. and what about hermione granger herself? actress emma watson, who dismissed rowling's brave and honest stance by saying the following. she said trans people

are who they say they are and deserve to live their lives without being constantly questioned or told they aren't. who they say are . well, who who they say they are. well, who is emma watson a budding thespian who won the showbiz lottery the day she was chosen by rowling to play hermione granger ? if it wasn't for jk granger? if it wasn't for jk rowling, at best she'd be a jobbing actor pulling pints in the old vic, maybe playing a dead body in casualty, or more likely, playing out a real life role tossing burgers at her local mcdonald's. she's had her chips . following this week's chips. following this week's cass review, which highlighted the worst excesses of this new religion. it's clear that so—called trans ideology, which denies biological sex, is in retreat but only thanks to heroes like rowling, who history will judge not only as a great author, but as a great woman too. she has silenced her idiot critics with just one wave of

her magic wand . your reaction her magic wand. your reaction gb news. com forward slash your say. let's hear from tonight's top pundits. former government adviser claire pearsall ex bbc radio dj mike read and anarchist and author doctor lisa mckenzie. doctor lisa, let me start with you. perhaps these young actors and actresses simply want to be more inclusive in a society which is ever changing. >> yeah, perhaps. perhaps that's the case. i mean, you know, i'm i'm inclusive. i think, you know, people have a right to sort of say who they are and what they want. you know, how they want to be, determine . and they want to be, determine. and i also think that people's rights should be protected as well. and if i think about the sort of the actors that we're thinking about, i think it's quite standard for their generation . they're very generation. they're very privileged people. so remember, you know, they don't have to get

down and dirty with the rest of us. they don't have to go and have a job. they don't have to, live in society with the rest of us. so these are very , very us. so these are very, very privileged people who can hold very, very privileged ideas about the world that don't really ever have to be tested. and for me, i think that's what the point is here, is that for any woman who's, you know, going about their daily business, i, you know, i don't like i'm not a victim, but we have to know that women are more likely to be, on the other end of violence from men. and as a woman, you know that throughout your life, when you're walking down the street, you're walking down the street, you are footsteps. you know, women think the worst because that's what can happen. and i think these very, very privileged people who are not living in society , they get living in society, they get these very, very privileged and

not tested views. and i would say that's that's what my opinion of this is. yes >> i mean, that's the point. claire pearsall emma watson hasn't been trying to change her bra in a primark with a couple of blokes in the cubicle next to her. >> well , and her. >> well, and that's right. and i don't think there's much more to add than they are incredibly privileged. they aren't going to have to deal with the kind of situations that most women are, but i think that j.k. rowling is one of probably the bravest women i have heard on this subject. she doesn't shy away from debate. she takes people on on social media. she is thoroughly unapologetic for her views, and she isn't transphobic. and i think that that insult is thrown at her frequently . she isn't. she has frequently. she isn't. she has said that people can identify and they can go and live their lives whatever they wish. however women's hard fought rights should be respected and should be kept as as such, and i

and i don't think that is a bad stance to take. and the whole nature of this debate is so incredibly toxic. but i don't like being told by some incredibly wealthy young people that my view, which happens to be the same as jk rowling's, is wrong. why do they have that right? why can they not come and debate this subject properly? they hide behind their social media. they hide behind the walls and their gates of their very expensive houses , and they very expensive houses, and they won't come out and actually stand up for what it is they believe. so they make these comments, they off and they comments, they rush off and they leave the rest of us to pick up the pieces. >> well, creed perhaps these >> well, my creed perhaps these young standing up for young actors are standing up for what they are the what they believe they are the younger generation. they've observed the world has observed that the world has changed, that some have changed, that some people have gender which means gender dysphoria, which means that they feel they're in the wrong body . perhaps emma watson, wrong body. perhaps emma watson, rupert grint, daniel radcliffe are showing empathy to people who were born female and want to

be male, or vice versa , standing be male, or vice versa, standing up for a marginalised group in society . society. >> vie yeah, i think the media will go to them for quotes rather than them maybe stepping forward . the media will forward. the media will immediately go to the obvious people to go to for quotes. and now, of course , anyone could now, of course, anyone could come out as anything and anyone can have their opinion on. it's just that people are so vociferous against anyone that doesn't have same as doesn't have the same opinion as them. all have our own them. we can all have our own opinions and now you can come out as anything back in the out as anything but back in the day, if you take, day, i mean, if you take, you know, if take olympians like know, if you take olympians like the olympian stella the polish olympian stella walsh, who lived until almost 70 as a woman who won olympic medals a woman, shot in an medals as a woman, shot in an underground car park in the states. and they discovered in the autopsy she had all the bits that woman didn't ought to have. so you could live your entire life like that, then. now you're forced to come out. you're forced to come out. you're forced to come out. you're forced to do things. i'm to be

honest, i'm worried about trams. people the that get people mark the people that get on trams, they're they're a worry for me . worry for me. >> we've got those people going nowhere . are they the trams nowhere. are they the trams people? >> well, we've got a tram in nottingham, and you should be worried about everybody on that. absolutely. it's like the wild west in on nottingham trams. >> listen i know and you get you get trolls on twitter trolls lots of viewers and listeners in nottingham a what a what a city it is. >> let me tell you . as you well >> let me tell you. as you well know, lisa, bankruptcy is that right? yeah, but morally. right? yeah, but not morally. and people, that's and i love the people, that's labour local authorities for you. listen, careful bit of politics coming up as they embrace for a photo at the polo. could harry and meghan be forced to uk if harry has to return to the uk if harry has his visa revoked? plus, we'll be conducting a mark dolan tonight people's poll. should harry potter daniel radcliffe potter actors daniel radcliffe and emma watson apologise to j.k. rowling? the results are in, we shall

next. well, if you're just joining us, iran has launched drones at israel. according to the israeli defence forces. here are live pictures from tel aviv in israel. now, the prime minister of israel , israel. now, the prime minister of israel, benjamin netanyahu, has convened an emergency war cabinet upwards of 50 of these unmanned aircraft are headed in the direction of israel. the idf have said that they're ready for this attack, and they will strike down of these strike down any of these aircraft should they enter israeli air space. this is thought to be a revenge attack, in relation to israel's attack on the syrian embassy in april. but the plot thickens because, of course, as israel pursues its stated aim of wiping out hamas, israel is engaged an interested party as they are supportive of hamas both financially and militarily as well as

diplomatically . so this story is diplomatically. so this story is a developing one, and the plot thickens in the middle east, which is why we are going to have a special gb news program dedicated to this story, which i'll be presenting live from midnight tonight. so do stay with us after headliners for a gb news special, israel under attack . meanwhile, let's get to attack. meanwhile, let's get to some other big stories of the day. don't forget. let me tell you that the papers are on their way, but it's time now for us news with queen of american news with the queen of american showbiz, royal political showbiz, royal and political reporting, schofield reporting, kinsey schofield kinsey . the story about israel kinsey. the story about israel has rather squeezed this slot , has rather squeezed this slot, so our crack straight on with it, a rather happy photo of harry and meghan loved up in miami . this seems to be the miami. this seems to be the romance that won't die . romance that won't die. >> yeah. harry and meghan were seen on friday at the royal salute polo challenge at the grand champion polo club in wellington . it's been previously wellington. it's been previously reported that meghan hired

adele, to work on her adele, stylist to work on her new look, and i think that was on clear display this week in florida. but yeah , they they florida. but yeah, they they are. there were netflix cameras in tow . these are two in tow. these are two individuals that are continuing to pursue the entertainment world. i think basically essentially threw more reality television . meghan is going to television. meghan is going to give us a new tv show about gardening and friendship and entertainment, while prince harry is doing a new polo themed show. and i think after weeks of will, they won't they? reconciliation debate spurred by multiple cancer revelations, the announcement of these two new reality shows have solidified in my mind that there is no chance for a reconciliation between prince harry and his brother any time soon. prince william does not want to be a part of reality tv or jeopardise his family's privacy. >> however, you could argue with the announcement of these two netflix shows that harry and meghan are proving their critics wrong, that they

wrong, that the fact that they were dumped by spotify was well reported . but it seems that as reported. but it seems that as producers, they're still in demand , at least on netflix, demand, at least on netflix, they're in demand because netflix wants what they had their first and only commercial success, which is harry and meghan . meghan. >> they're not behind the scenes like they told us they were going to be going forward. this is reality television. this is watching meghan markle in the kitchen. watching meghan kitchen. this is watching meghan markle garden. this watching markle garden. this is watching harry event. this is harry at a polo event. this is reality tv. so i don't think they're proving their critics wrong. i think that netflix is showing want a very showing us they want a very specific take from harry and meghan, and it's we're meghan, and it's what we're getting. front of getting. it's them in front of the what did you of that >> what did you make of that photograph? it's the photograph? for me, it's the royal of the day. the royal picture of the day. the embrace polo . it reminds embrace at the polo. it reminds me of diana and charles at the polo back in the day. is this a real love story? do you think that they're still hot for each other ? other? >> i'm sure they're still hot for each other. i think that meghan looked beautiful, but i

also think, that you see what ultimately these reality shows are not just a way for harry and meghan to make money. they have to change perception, people are they're not very likeable in the states, and i know they're not very likeable in the uk. this is a they're using to a tool that they're using to change perception of change people's perception of them. kiss to me is them. and that kiss to me is a very choreographed photo that is beautiful. seems like beautiful. but seems like there's an ulterior motive. >> there can we talk about the couple's political ambitions? archewell their non—profit organisation, is going to be tackling election misinformation. are harry and meghan really the arbiters of truth? >> yes, sir. they've partnered with anti—trump or miles taylor of the future us to help voters against disinformation . and one against disinformation. and one of the things that they're focused on is making sure americans can decipher what's real and what is like deep, fake, what is i generated my argument would be prince harry literally said on a phone call

with somebody he thought was greta thunberg for half an hour discussing american politics and his exit from british royal his exit from the british royal family. were actually family. they were actually russian streamed russian pranksters that streamed on youtube. not necessarily who i go to for my disinformation , guide. >> yeah. maze. definitely. listen, kinsey , i wish we had listen, kinsey, i wish we had longer, but we've got to tackle this israel story. we'll see you in a week's time. if you're just joining us on gb news on the radio or watching online or via your tv, let me tell you that this is a breaking story. your tv, let me tell you that this is a breaking story . and of this is a breaking story. and of course, you'll have heard about it in our bulletin with aaron armstrong , iran it in our bulletin with aaron armstrong, iran has it in our bulletin with aaron armstrong , iran has launched armstrong, iran has launched upwards of 50 unmanned manned aircraft in the direction of israel. here are live pictures of tel aviv in israel. currently peaceful, but they're expecting between 50 and 100 of these drones . very powerful devices drones. very powerful devices heading towards israel. this is a diplomatic moment. it's a military moment. a diplomatic moment. it's a military moment . and of course, military moment. and of course, it complicates the current issues in the middle east with

regards to israel's stated aim of wiping out hamas. of course, iran support hamas as well. the plot thickens. what are the implications? benjamin netanyahu , the prime minister of israel, a controversial figure in some quarters, has held an emergency cabinet meeting in response to this attack. they say they'll strike down the drones. well, we're going to bring you a gb news special after headliners. i'll be on air in a special program from midnight till 1 am. we'll be speaking to top a.m. we'll be speaking to top experts from around the world. greg's i greg's looking after it, so i promise it will be a worthy promise you it will be a worthy watch. lots more to come, including tomorrow's papers

if you're just joining us, sirius developments in the middle east as iran launch a unmanned air attack on israel.

that's right. they've sent upwards of 50 drones in the direction of israel. now, the idf, who are the israeli special forces? the defence forces have said they're ready for this attack. they will strike down these drones as and when they enter airspace. but enter israeli airspace. but clearly , it adds to what is clearly, it adds to what is already a very complex issue in the middle east. we're going to do a special show about it . do a special show about it. we've got a gb news special at midnight with a range of experts reacting to this escalation of tensions in the middle east. how will benjamin netanyahu, the prime minister of israel, will benjamin netanyahu, the prime minister of israel , react? prime minister of israel, react? what are iran's motivations in launching this strike? could america get drawn into the conflict? and what does this mean for israel's stated aim of wiping out hamas, who are of course, supported by iran? so thatis course, supported by iran? so that is a gb news special israel under attack . i'll be presenting under attack. i'll be presenting that from midnight, straight after headliners but let's get

reaction now from our home and security editor mark white. mark do we know why iran has launched this strike on israel ? this strike on israel? >> well, of course, a strike is in response to that attack, which killed a number of generals from the revolutionary guards and diplomats on that damascus compound. linked to the iranian embassy in damascus last month. and iran vowed revenge. and that is what is unfolding here. but it's unfolding in a very significant way that i think has taken a lot of people by surprise, because because iran, through back channels, apparently had been telling the americans that their response would be measured. but instead, what we're seeing is unprecedented, direct assault launched from iran involving

drones . and according to israeli drones. and according to israeli tv, also cruise missiles. up to 100 of these drones and cruise missiles being launched from iran toward israel. now, we're told that they are due the drones, at least, to arrive in israel around about 2 am. local time. that would be midnight. our time. israel, of course , has our time. israel, of course, has at its disposal very significant defence systems, saw them for myself when i was out in israel after the 7th of october terrorist attacks. they have got their iron dome missile defence system, but in addition to that, of course, they have lots of defences in the form of their combat jets, which are up and patrolling around israel tonight. and also, of course, they have naval assets in the region as well that are able to shoot down hostile missiles and drones coming towards israeli

territory . but make no mistake, territory. but make no mistake, this is a very significant and dangerous moment. we've had a lot of dangerous moments since those attacks on the 7th of october, but this by far is the most significant development, mark white, thank you so much for joining us. our home and forjoining us. our home and security editor. for more on this, we're going to have a gb news special, which i'll be presenting israel attack presenting israel under attack after headliners from midnight until 1:00. we'll speak to experts from around the world. how do israel react to this? what are the implications for their war against hamas ? could their war against hamas? could america and the united kingdom? could the western allies get sucked into this growing middle east conflict? so that is a gb news special from midnight. better late than never. tomorrow's papers . and fleet tomorrow's papers. and fleet

street haven't quite picked up the story just yet. they've gone to press a little early, but the observer at risk children for armed out to legal private care homes and no terror link found in stabbing rampage in sydney, australia. mail on sunday from the paper that broke the story, a new sensation dramatic intervention by labour's deputy ex labour deputies. ex—adviser piles more pressure on her to finally come clean. so here's the headline she is lying rayner aide tells police an extraordinary story angela rayner was tonight facing mounting pressure over her two homes row after one of her former aides told police that she had not told the truth about her real home. this is matt finnegan, who's angela rayner's former chief adviser, who's given a statement to greater manchester police in which he states that her actual home was with her then husband, not at the former council house where she was registered on the

electoral roll. so there you go. somebody formerly very close to angela rayner saying that she has lied. i told you that story is not going away and i'll get reaction from my pundits shortly. sunday express massacre in the mall six dead in sydney stabbing horror and far left plot to hijack labour. labour is facing a vicious civil war that could kill off sir keir starmer's hopes of a landslide election victory. left wingers are poised to launch a bid for the deputy leadership if angela rayneris the deputy leadership if angela rayner is forced to quit over her property dealings. the independent's mother stabbed to death trying to save baby from sydney mall knife rampage a truly horrific story for which there are no words. ukrainians granted sanctuary in britain abused by gangsters is the other headune abused by gangsters is the other headline in sunday telegraph pm attacks complete overreach of echr judges sunak the prime minister, rishi sunak condemns

illegitimate climate decision on the eve of a vote on rwanda flights. also, sadiq khan, committed to pay per mile charges, is the other headline in relation to the london mayor sunday mirror. now trolled by her own family fury at meghan bros sick youtube vids. the duchess of sussex's brother has been blasted for running a vile new campaign of abuse against her on his own youtube channel, that of course, is thomas markle jr . that of course, is thomas markle jr. last that of course, is thomas markle jr . last but that of course, is thomas markle jr. last but not least, daily star sunday mutts and moggies are getting square eyes. my name is fido and i'm a telly addict. if your pet likes to watch the box, just be careful it doesn't get square eyed . that's because get square eyed. that's because as many as three out of ten cats and dogs are hooked on tv. as many as three out of ten cats and dogs are hooked on tv . well, and dogs are hooked on tv. well, ihopeifs and dogs are hooked on tv. well, i hope it's gb news. i hope it's mark dolan tonight. don't forget at midnight after headliners, we

will present a special gb news special israel under attack. i'll be at the helm speaking to leading experts around the world about the implications of this developing story, this is an unmanned and aircraft, upwards of 50 drones that have been launched by iran on israel and are expected to be shot down if and when they reach israeli territory . so it's a serious territory. so it's a serious story. things are hotting up in the middle east that is a gb news special from midnight. but let's get reaction to tomorrow's front pages with pundits, front pages with my top pundits, anarchist and author doctor lisa mckenzie , former government mckenzie, former government adviser claire pearsall and bbc radio legend mike read . folks radio legend mike read. folks lots of stories to get through . lots of stories to get through. but look, we've got to start with this one, mike read, and it is a big for sir is a big, big concern for sir keir starmer. she is lying. rayner aide tells police. this is a story that's not going anywhere.

>> no it's not. >> no it's not. >> well, as you know, magna carta said , you know, if it's if carta said, you know, if it's if it's on social media, then it must be true. that's exactly that's what magna carter said to twitter on the magna carta, aren't they? there are, of course. yeah, and also, i mean, what happened to the innocent until proven guilty and then when you are proven innocent, you're still probably guilty . i you're still probably guilty. i know, you know. so, trial by media. >> is that your concern about angela rayner? >> it were about everything that people will not wait until there is a verdict . people will not wait until there is a verdict. i people will not wait until there is a verdict . i mean, we get is a verdict. i mean, we get i mean, you know, her aide has just said she's lying. so then we all think, oh, she's lying because her aide said so. and then someone else said, no, no, she's telling the truth. oh, well, someone else said she's telling truth. don't telling the truth. why don't we wait until the the ride wait until the end of the ride rather than getting on the roller coaster and doing the whole roller coaster ride? wait until there's a verdict. >> well, that was something that we discuss before we were going to discuss before this israel story broke. lisa

mckenzie , do you think that mckenzie, do you think that angela rayner should down angela rayner should step down until this investigation by the police concluded ? police is concluded? >> to be honest, i'm not that interested whether she steps down or not. and regarding, i suppose, this trial by media, what about trial by her own, values and ethics ? she comes out values and ethics? she comes out with this, this trot constantly that she's a working class woman. she understands working class issues . and then she takes class issues. and then she takes a council house from the council. she buys it. i have no problem with that , and then she problem with that, and then she sells it, and she makes £48,000 profit. the council has lost that council house for any future family that needs it . and future family that needs it. and my goodness, the people need housing now . so i think angela housing now. so i think angela rayneris housing now. so i think angela rayner is guilty of hypocrisy and of being a class traitor. >> well, there you go. i mean, that's certainly a wider political issue. and some would accuse angela rayner double accuse angela rayner of double standards. also been quite

standards. she's also been quite critical of the right to buy scheme, she'd to scheme, saying she'd like to change even has change it even though she has profited. would argue profited. but many would argue that the big story is whether or not the authorities not she misled the authorities about where she was living ten years ago. she is lying, rayner aide tells police. if you're keir starmer right now, you're really you're sweating over this issue, aren't you? it's a major political headache. >> yeah, absolutely is because angela rayner being the de facto deputy shadow leader of the labour party , she is number two labour party, she is number two to sir keir starmer. he really needs her because she brings out working class girl sort of ethos to somebody who's not very working. john prescott, she is she's, she's she's john prescott is a ginger wig. >> is that fair to say. is a ginger wig. >> she'st fair to say. is a ginger wig. >> she'st fair prescott? >> she's john prescott? >> she's john prescott? >> john >> i don't want to upset john prescott way because he's prescott in any way because he's got a mean right hook, there got a mean right hook, so there are some real issues here, but i think one of the biggest issues is hypocrisy of angela is the rank hypocrisy of angela raynen is the rank hypocrisy of angela rayner, who called for pretty much single tory to be much every single tory to be sacked, resign or lose their job

demanding information. so you can't have it all ways . you can't have it all ways. you can't have it all ways. you can't demand that everybody else does it. but you can keep schtum. she's not schtum. and she's not been around the media some around on the media for some considerable time . i considerable period of time. i think sir keir starmer really now needs to put out kind now needs to put out some kind of action, of statement, make some action, do , because at the do something, because at the moment he just looks like he's hiding behind angela rayner, who is just silent and hiding herself. is this a very strange situation? >> is it going to create a bit of a civil war within the labour party, where people lining up to say, fancy her job? yeah. so say, i fancy her job? yeah. so this is it's definitely. >> and there's party is split isn't it, between in a sense, the likes of keir starmer and the likes of keir starmer and the likes of angela rayner. there is an ideological divide there, with rayner particularly representing the left of the party. is that fair to say? >> yeah, absolutely . and you're >> yeah, absolutely. and you're going to see i think more of those more to the left . the more those more to the left. the more corbyn mps who are going corbyn era mps who are going to rally round. so as you've seen in the conservative party, where you've different factions you've had different factions fighting who becomes

fighting over who becomes leader, the labour party leader, i think the labour party are now going to go through something similar something very, very similar with the more left, the corbynistas coming forward to say we need to be able to get our voices heard. so we need to be able to take over that agenda and push their candidate forward. >> i don't think the corbynistas would ever support angela raynen would ever support angela rayner. they. >> no, no, no, what mean is >> no, no, no, what i mean is they her replaced. they want her replaced. >> they they hate because >> why do they they hate because when she when i mentioned that she represents left the represents the left of the party, mention party, i didn't mention corbynistas because they're they're the erg of the they're like the erg of the labour party. >> they are. yeah. >> yeah they are. yeah. >> yeah they are. yeah. >> own bubble . >> in their own bubble. >> in their own bubble. >> hate us. >> they hate us. >> they hate us. >> why like angela >> why don't they like angela rayner ? rayner? >> i suppose because what they do they they think she do is they they think that she should be should been should be she should have been on and she never was , on their side and she never was, you know, when she was education secretary, she came out with this thing about white working class really vie. that class boys that really vie. that was the first time i realised how much they disliked her, because they hated the fact that she said this thing about white working class boys not going to university , and them being

university, and them being a source of inequality, and i remember the corbyn left absolutely hated her and went for her in the same way as they hate wes streeting as well. so i don't think she's going to be getting any support actually, from the left of the party. no she's not. >> what what i mean is they will desperately look to replace her with somebody more of their thinking because they feel very betrayed by the likes of angela raynen betrayed by the likes of angela rayner, as you've just said. so what to doing what they're going to be doing is circling their wagons be is circling their wagons to be able candidate into able to get their candidate into able to get their candidate into a l able to get their candidate into a , should angela rayner a position, should angela rayner be removed from they be removed from it, and they need to be able to have will that power, will it affect the poll ratings? >> at all not? will it? will >> at all or not? will it? will it the party enough or not? >> will have to wonder? >> will you have to wonder? >> will you have to wonder? >> of sunday >> front page of the sunday express, claire. far left plot to as intimated to hijack labour as as intimated by mike and by lisa. this could be quite destabilising for keir starmer. what does he do? because, i mean, i'm puzzled by this story. clearly there's a police investigation now and

justice know, have justice needs to, you know, have its , due process. but it appears its, due process. but it appears she certainly argued, angela raynen she certainly argued, angela rayner, that she's received legal advice that is very clear that she did not commit any crimes. she did everything right and proper, except that she hasn't shown that advice to her leader, keir starmer. and he hasn't to see it. this is hasn't asked to see it. this is a pantomime, isn't it? >> it is. if you were the former, you know , prosecutor, former, you know, prosecutor, then you would look to have the evidence put in front of you. if you are of a legal background, you are of a legal background, you would want to see it. now, the, the, the labour party's argument is that angela rayner has shown it to secure starmer's office and they are content now whether because i have a nasty office when i have a nasty suspicion that it's going through sue gray, which is going to make people very, very former civil servant, former top civil servant who is now chief of staff, who looks to be bringing

everybody together to form a government. that's what she would hope for. and i have a nasty feeling that perhaps the evidence is coming from her and we are seeing that kind of spin operation. >> do you think that, iran might save her because. yeah, because obviously they only if she goes and lives there, i think. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> well, you know, it's i don't think she would, but of course, it's a big story which could knock this . knock this. >> yeah. knock knock this drama. yeah. that's our front pages . yeah. that's our front pages. yeah. that's our front pages. yeah. mean, the other thought yeah. that's our front pages. yhave. mean, the other thought yeah. that's our front pages. yhave. sorry , the other thought yeah. that's our front pages. yhave. sorry to 1e other thought yeah. that's our front pages. yhave. sorry to lingerzr thought yeah. that's our front pages. yhave. sorry to lingerzr tithis ht i have. sorry to linger on this with you, claire, but you've got, the track in got, the inside track in westminster . yeah, it's my westminster. yeah, it's my interpretation. it's my instinct that angela rayner is toast at this point. i mean, how long can she cling on in this role as this drama? because. because the police investigation that could go on for months, couldn't it? >> yeah , sure. >> yeah, sure. >> yeah, sure. >> not sure that's tenable >> i'm not sure that's tenable for starmer. i don't for sir keir starmer. i don't think it is. >> but he's in a really difficult position because people are going scream. people are going to scream. you're getting of her you're only getting rid of her because working because she's a working class woman women the woman and we need women in the

labour women labour party, strong women to come i think he's come forward. i think he's really stuck. and that really stuck. and the fact that he is to the same line the he is stuck to the same line the entire through, that she is entire way through, that she is innocent nothing innocent and has done nothing wrong. painted himself >> starmer has painted himself into not for the first into a corner, not for the first time his political career. time in his political career. >> and he >> no, absolutely not. and he will. he will regret this. >> the labour party might say, don't get rid of her. she's a working class woman. i'm a working class woman. i'm a working class woman and i'm not saying that about her. >> well, there you go. >> okay, well, there you go. listen lots to more listen lots more to come, more front pages, if you're front pages, plus, if you're just joining us, iran has launched drone attack on launched a drone attack on israel. over 50 unmanned aircraft have been launched in the direction of israel , the direction of israel, expected to arrive in the hours ahead, which is why we're going to do a very special gb news program about it. at program all about it. at midnight. israel under attack. i'll be presenting that. we've booked loads of experts to react to this. a massive geo political story, plus more on it after the break, and more front pages and more top stories. don't go

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well, if you're joining us, let me tell you that iran has launched a drone attack on israel. if things couldn't get worse in the middle east, well, they just have. we're going to do a gb special at do a gb news special at midnight, straight after headliners. i'll be presenting a show, and we'll be featuring experts from around the world reacting to this strike on israel. between 50 and 100 unmanned drones launched in the direction of israel. israel have said they will shoot them down, but it's obviously a major escalation. let's get reaction now from former british army commander richard kemp. mr kemp, thank you so much for joining us. your reaction to this strike? >> well, i think it was, entirely expected , since the 1st entirely expected, since the 1st of april when israel carried out an attack on, islamic, iranian, islamic revolutionary guard

corps commanders in damascus, who were planning attacks against israel and since then, iran threatened retaliation. and the tension has been building. i'm in israel now, and life has gone on as normal, but the idf has been working very hard, i think, including calling up reservists to man air defence systems. so i think israel is ready for this attack, and, you know, i would expect they will intercept at least a significant number of the drones, before they come into israeli airspace . they come into israeli airspace. but some may well, of course, get through, iran know that israel will be prepared for this attack , is the strike symbolic attack, is the strike symbolic rather than strategic ? rather than strategic? >> mr kemp, i wouldn't say it's symbolic . i think they've symbolic. i think they've launched 100, 100 drones. is the latest estimate from the israeli defence force and possibly we already have maybe launched cruise missiles as well . perhaps

cruise missiles as well. perhaps time to land either before or after the drones . there's also after the drones. there's also reports of potentially of drones being launched from by the houthis in yemen. so it seems rather more than just a symbolic attack. it seems like an attack designed, if those reports are correct , designed to overwhelm correct, designed to overwhelm the israelis air defence systems. >> and mr kemp, if israel are not able to intercept those drones, as you mentioned , 50 to drones, as you mentioned, 50 to 100 is what's being estimated at the moment. if some get through, how much damage can they do ? how much damage can they do? >> well, they can be they can be pretty severe . i mean, the pretty severe. i mean, the drones can be accurately targeted. we've seen this same type of drone, iranian provided drones. we've seen doing significant damage to kyiv, where they've been supplied to the russians and used for attacks on civilian premises there. so they can do a lot of damage. it depends on the target. they hit, of course, and it depends on the time of day . it depends on the time of day. if you know whether, whether a building is occupied or not. but

they can they can certainly do severe , mr kemp, i do severe damage, mr kemp, i do hope perhaps we'll be able to catch up with you later this evening in our gb news special israel under attack. my thanks to former british army commander richard kemp. we will be bringing you a special show at midnight after headliners. i'll be presenting. those are live pictures now of tel aviv in israel . following the news that israel. following the news that iran has launched in the direction of 100 drones, some of which, as we've just heard from richard kemp, could actually reach their target. what are the implications? what will the reaction be of the prime minister, netanyahu ? minister, benjamin netanyahu? who could the west get dragged into this? all of that and much more. in a gb news special from midnight, i'll be presenting straight after headliners. okay, folks, think the clock is folks, i think the clock is against us. how long do we have? just a few seconds . it remains just a few seconds. it remains for me to thank my fantastic punst for me to thank my fantastic pundits we've had more pundits tonight. we've had more air time, except for that breaking israel story, the

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gb news. >> very good evening to you. i'm aaron armstrong in the gb newsroom. the big developing story today revolves around the middle east. the prime minister has condemned iran's reckless attack on israel after it launched hundreds of drones and missiles towards the country. rishi sunak says iran is intent on sowing chaos in its own backyard , and says the uk will backyard, and says the uk will continue to stand up for israel's security . sir keir israel's security. sir keir starmer has also condemned the attack has called for calm. attack and has called for calm. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu meeting his war netanyahu is meeting his war cabinet with up to 100 drones expected to arrive around midnight uk time. expected to arrive around midnight uk time . his military midnight uk time. his military says they're well prepared. local media reports say some have already been shot down over syria and jordan. israel's been

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