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gb news. way. >> hello. good afternoon, and welcome to gb views. on tv, onune welcome to gb views. on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua. and for the next few hours, me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headlines right now. this show is all about opinion. it's theirs . and of it's mine. it's theirs. and of course it's yours. we'll be debating, discussing and at times will disagree, but no times we will disagree, but no one cancelled. one will be cancelled. not without a good reason. but joining me in this hour is broadcaster and journalist danny kelly. that's in the next hour. i also broadcaster and author christine hamilton . in a few christine hamilton. in a few moments time, we'll be going head to head in a clash of minds in the clash with former labour party adviser matthew laza and also with businessman and activist will also
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activist adam brooks, will also be starting the show, bringing you the latest from what's going on in israel. and of course, that terrible attack from iran, as we'll speak to the israeli defence official who revealed more than 300 drones and missiles have been launched by iran. then at 5:00, i'll be joined by this week's outside guests. now, here's some clues. she puts the mauritius on the map. during the swinging 60s, as her career blew up in england . her career blew up in england. but who do you think she is.7 that's but who do you think she is? that's tiny, tiny teaser. will that's a tiny, tiny teaser. will give more . i have a very, give you more. i have a very, very special well, very special guest as well, joining sunday joining me for my sunday supplement end the supplement at the end of the show, morag macdougall brown was taken by the police after taken away by the police after being implicated in a being falsely implicated in a hate crime. i'm looking forward to talking to her. but before we get let's get your get started, let's get your latest headlines . latest news headlines. >> nana, thank you very much. and good afternoon to you from the newsroom just after 3:00. and we start with the latest developments from middle developments from the middle east, war east, where the israeli war cabinet exact
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cabinet says it will exact a price from iran for its overnight assaults, warning tehran will face a painful sanctions, including in the form of missiles. iran, meanwhile, says it will launch a much larger attack if israel retaliates. it comes as rishi sunak confirmed that raf planes did shoot down a number of iranian drones and missiles overnight, in what he described as a dangerous escalation in tensions with israel . the prime tensions with israel. the prime minister is now calling for calm ahead of a meeting with g7 world leaders today to discuss the middle east crisis. this. >> this was a dangerous and unnecessary escalation, which i've condemned in the strongest terms thanks to an international coordinated effort which the united kingdom participated in. almost all of these missiles were intercepted, saving lives not just in israel, but in neighbouring countries like jordan as well. the raf sent additional planes to the region as part of our existing operations to counter daesh in
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iraq and syria. i can confirm that our planes did shoot down a number of iranian attack drones. i don't want to pay tribute to the bravery and professionalism of our pilots flying into the face of danger. >> well, the british iranian diaspora has responded to the attack overnight with a protest today outside the iranian embassy in to london show their solidarity with israel. >> we, the british iranian diaspora, have gathered here today in protest to let the world know that the war of the mullahs, which has started for really in reality 45 years. but last night they launched over 300 missiles at israel is not the war of the people of iran. and we are urging the public, the media and the rest of the world to recognise that this is the war of the mullahs and not the war of the mullahs and not the war of the mullahs and not the war of the people of iran. >> one of the protesters there, speaking moments ago in london. in other news, the knife attacker who killed six people attacker who killed six people at a shopping centre in sydney, advertised himself online as a
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male escort and, we understand, tried to join groups of gun owners online. the knife attacker, who killed six people attacker, who killed six people at that shopping centre , has at that shopping centre, has been named as joel cauchi and had been known to police, particularly over the last five years, hadn't been arrested years, but hadn't been arrested or charged before he committed the attack yesterday . police the attack yesterday. police believe the 40 year old suffered from schizophrenia and used drugs, including methamphetamine and psychedelics . drugs, including methamphetamine and psychedelics. his family has now released a statement in support of the female . police support of the female. police officer who shot and killed him. they say that she was only doing her uk. labour herjob here in the uk. labour says will impose strict says that it will impose strict 24 hour time limits on police when serious when dealing with serious domestic cases. the domestic abuse cases. the initiative has been dubbed raneem's after 22 year old raneem's law after 22 year old raneem's law after 22 year old raneem oudeh was killed by her former partner just 11 raneem oudeh was killed by her former partnerjust 11 days former partner just 11 days after obtaining an order against him. shadow home secretary yvette cooper says she's sick and tired of the government treating violence against women and girls as inevitable. instead
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of an emergency . a new poll of an emergency. a new poll suggests that humza yousafs popularity among snp voters has fallen sharply. a survey of more than 1000 people in scotland found the first minister's score fell to —7% among voters who had voted for the scottish national party in 2019. his approval with the general public has also dropped to similar levels as his conservative rivals. it comes after the introduction of a new hate crime law prompted more than 7000 complaints in just its first week. yvette cooper says that angela rayner has done the right thing by taking independent legal advice amid a row over her living arrangements. it's after her former chief adviser gave a statement to police, contradicting the deputy labour leader's claims. police launched an investigation this week to determine if there were any breaches of electoral law . miss breaches of electoral law. miss rayner says though she will step down if it's found that she has committed a crime, but insists
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she followed the rules to. she has followed the rules to. excuse me? turkish officials have launched an investigation and detained 13 people after a deadly cable car collision there. this, for those watching on tv, was the moment that a helicopter rescued one of the last remaining passengers stranded in mid—air. one person was killed, ten others were also injured when the cable car collided with a broken pole, ripping the pod open and sending people inside plummeting to the rocks below. in total , 174 rocks below. in total, 174 passengers were rescued during a massive 23 hour long operation . massive 23 hour long operation. and finally, some royal news. the duke of kent is stepping down as colonel of the scots guards after 50 years. the duke was cheered and applauded by troops as he attended his final black sunday parade in westminster . edward was westminster. edward was appointed to the position in 1974 and now hands over the role to the duke of edinburgh. the 88 year old says that holding the position has been a true honour.
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for the latest stories, do sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the code on your screen or go to gb news. com slash alerts. now let's return to . nana. let's return to. nana. >> thank you. sam. it's just coming up to seven minutes after 3:00. this is gb news. i'm nana akua now, before we get stuck into our clash over the next houn into our clash over the next hour, let me introduce you to my panel hour, let me introduce you to my panel. joining me today is former party adviser former labour party adviser matthew also matthew laza and also businessman and activist adam brooks. right. so here's what we're discussing today. brooks. right. so here's what we're discussing today . rishi we're discussing today. rishi sunak has confirmed raf jets were intercept iranian were used to intercept iranian drones and missiles fired on israel as tensions flare in the middle east. we'll bring you the latest former prime minister liz truss has claimed that she wasn't warned that the uk was sitting on a financial tinderbox when a chancellor, kwasi kwarteng, delivered the mini—budget, although she was sort of prime minister, so she could have checked, so was she
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really , though, wholly to blame really, though, wholly to blame for meltdown then , for the market meltdown then, following a landmark ruling, rishi criticised rishi sunak has criticised the excessive reach of the ruling by the echr. could this mean the conservative party will include pulling out of the echr in their manifesto? and jk rowling has accused politicians of snuggling up to trans campaigners and has called for an investigation . the called for an investigation. the harry potter author has called for an investigation into why political are embracing political parties are embracing the of trans the language of pro trans groups. me what you think groups. tell me what you think on everything we're discussing as ever, go to our website gbnews.com/yoursay or me gbnews.com/yoursay or tweet me @gbnews . so it's time for the @gbnews. so it's time for the clash. rishi sunak has confirmed that uk jets will use to intercept a number of iranian drones . drones. >> as i said, the raf moved additional planes into the region as part of our existing operations to counter daesh in iraq and syria, and i can confirm that a number of iranian
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attack drones were shot down and we pay tribute to the bravery and the professionalism of our pilots flying into the face of danger to protect civilians . i danger to protect civilians. i chaired a cobra meeting on friday to agree a plan of action. >> well, the prime minister is calling for calm ahead of talks later with other world leaders . later with other world leaders. israeli defence officials said more than 300 drones and missiles were launched by iran in an unprecedented attack, and it is the first time iran has targeted israel directly from its own soil. israel says it is prepared for further aggression, with iran threatening a much larger attack if israel retaliates. so now i'm joined by gb news home and security edhon gb news home and security editor, mark weiss. mark, give us an update. what's the latest ? us an update. what's the latest? >> well, the israeli war cabinet has been meeting this afternoon. we've been hearing from benny gantz, one of the war cabinet ministers, who said that israel will exact a price from iran,
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but an indication, perhaps, that any action that israel may take might not be imminent, because he said that israel would build a coalition and then exact that price from iran at a time of their choosing . now, throughout their choosing. now, throughout their choosing. now, throughout the day, israel authorities have been trying to assess the impact of these missile attacks and drone attacks that took place last night, 331 drones, missiles, cruise missiles and ballistic missiles that were launched, not just from iranian soil, but also launched from, iraq, from syria and from yemen, the vast majority , though, were the vast majority, though, were intercepted, as you heard there from rishi sunak intercepted some of them by uk combat jets, the vast majority by the us and their naval assets and their
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combat jets in the region. but jordan as well, and saudi arabia were told also shot down. drones that were passing over their airspace . the rest they were airspace. the rest they were deau airspace. the rest they were dealt with by israel's own missile defence systems and the vast majority of the missiles that made it as far as israel were intercepted. just seven ballistic missiles targeted , ballistic missiles targeted, near base in the south, an air base that we're told, that was involved in launching those f—35 combat jets that , took out that combat jets that, took out that diplomatic mission in damascus on the 1st of april, which is what iran says , it has conducted what iran says, it has conducted these strikes, in retaliation for. so all eyes really on israel to see just what the next steps will be. but as i say, from what benny gantz of the war cabinet was saying, an indication perhaps that it might
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not be imminent. >> okay. mark white, thank you very much. that's mark weight white. he's our homeland security editor. white let's go live now to tel aviv and speak to performer and mr fire . uri to performer and mr fire. uri geller. uri, really good to talk to you. i'm glad to see you to you. i'm glad to see that you are incredible, incredible are safe. incredible, incredible work , talk to me about work by israel, talk to me about the latest on the ground. there >> okay. first of all, you can imagine half of israel did not sleep last night. look, nana, when was on your when i was on your show yesterday , i said was yesterday, i said israel was braced by iran, braced for an attack by iran, where last night it happened. >> as we all know, iran unleashed than 300 unleashed more than 300 missiles, and drones. >> just think about it. >> just think about it. >> 170 killer drones. this is a >>170 killer drones. this is a swarm, not only that, but also over 30 cruise missiles and more than listen, 120 ballistic missiles. now think for a moment. this kind of an attack is enough to wipe out london. yes this is what israel was
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facing yesterday. last night i don't know if you have seen the pictures, but the skies were lit up here in israel. >> iran even targeted israel's listen, secret nuclear plant at dimona. my friend sent me a video of the skies are full of flashes and bangs and the sirens were wailing. you have the video if you can show it later. what iran did was to try to overwhelm israel by bombarding it. but nana and listen to this. israel by bombarding it. but nana and listen to this . do you nana and listen to this. do you know what, 99? and you've said it before of everything that was fired at israel was shut down before it could reach israel territory. only a very few ballistic missiles made it through . now they landed at through. now they landed at a air force base there. there was hardly any damage. there was . hardly any damage. there was. sadly, i didn't hear you mention this. there was only one casualty. vie an innocent seven year old girl who was hit by shrapnel as she slept in her
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bed. this is heartbreaking and we are all praying for her recovery . now look here. do you recovery. now look here. do you see? this is a painting? a dali painting , see? this is a painting? a dali painting, and it's surreal. what happened last night here was surreal. i have a report from the government . the i'll just the government. the i'll just say the first sentence. 85 tons of explosives were hurled at israel yesterday. but look, nana think about this. we witnessed a miracle last night. look, iran pounded israel, but almost nothing got through. okay that's already unbelievable. unbelievable. the missiles were blown up in the sky and the drones and cruise missiles were shot down. this is incredible. but it wasn't just israel like you said. which did it? your own british forces, the raf, as well as the us air force. maybe france too, came to israel's aid and shot them down. and not only that , now
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and shot them down. and not only that, now this is very important, but jordan, jordan , important, but jordan, jordan, an arab country which we are at peace with, also help. now, here is the final thing i want to say. and it's the most mind blowing. listen now there's this is the final thing, but it's the most important . please visualise most important. please visualise this. this is what i want to say and i can't, you know, express myself how this, how important this is. we saw what happened last night , this is. we saw what happened last night, but can you imagine if it wasn't drones and missiles, but a nuclear weapon which iran had fired? just imagine a nuclear weapon. now israel would have to shoot it down. but what would happen? the missile would fall either on jordan or iraq or syria or turkey. and, you know, the radiation from such an explosion would blow across europe. it could even reach the uk. iran cannot be allowed to get nuclear
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weapons. it must be stopped. what happened last night proves it. it is a threat. nana to the entire world. and that's all i have to say . have to say. >> well, listen. thank you so much. it was really good to see you all safe. thank you for your thoughts. thank you. and take care of yourself. thank you so much. incredible uri much. that's the incredible uri geller telling us his view. live in israel last night. right. let's welcome again to my clashers former labour party advisor, matthew laza and businessman and activist adam brooks. adam brooks, i'm going to come to you straight away. okay. so what were thoughts okay. so what were your thoughts on night? on what happened last night? i stayed awake and listened to it. >> i was awake till about three in the morning and me in the morning and it took me back i a child. i'm back to when i was a child. i'm showing age now when i before showing my age now when i before iused showing my age now when i before i used to go to school, i used to my cereal before to sit with my cereal before school the iraq war, to sit with my cereal before schcknow? the iraq war, you know? >> and time it was sort >> and at the time it was sort of almost exciting, but scary. >> and at the time it was sort of amost exciting, but scary. >> and at the time it was sort of a kid,: exciting, but scary. >> and at the time it was sort of a kid, szciting, but scary. >> and at the time it was sort of a kid, i found], but scary. >> and at the time it was sort of a kid, i found thatt scary. >> and at the time it was sort of a kid, i found that again. as a kid, i found that again last night, you know, it was it was viewing. but i've was compelling viewing. but i've got kids myself, so it was scary . what sort of future have we
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got? i can't believe reading on twitter, there are people that seem to defend iran . they're the seem to defend iran. they're the bad guys here. they really are. and this is not i don't agree with everything israel do ehhen with everything israel do either, but this is a country, ruled by people that want to wipe another country off the face of the earth . they've said face of the earth. they've said it numerous times. they've spoke about the destruction of israeli cities. these are not nice people. >> but where have you read that? >> but where have you read that? >> just out of interest from the past. i think there's a few quotes from it, mahmoud ahmad quotes from is it, mahmoud ahmad sajid javid i can't even say, say the word, but i mean, we've got many quotes from the leadership of iran threatening. >> is this on twitter? >> is this on twitter? >> and no , this is this is on, >> and no, this is this is on, on, on the internet and google and i think i've read it in the guardian and publications guardian and many publications as well. they have threatened israel in past with strong israel in the past with strong words. now to send 300 missiles, drones . as yuri said, we could drones. as yuri said, we could have seen if that iron dome
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hadnt have seen if that iron dome hadn't worked last night, we could have seen tens of thousands of people, if not hundreds of people, hundreds of thousands of people, including die . this including children, die. this could world war could have started world war iii. that serious. iii. it's that serious. >> i can almost hear the pro—palestinian lobby saying, yes, but what about the people in gaza? if you're that concerned about the thousands of people could killed, people this could have killed, i mean, about other mean, we can go on about other conflicts world that conflicts around the world that don't be the don't seem to be getting the traction the media, traction and the media, you know, christians nigeria know, the christians in nigeria and different places that are even ukraine in ukraine. but, you know, i don't agree with what israel is doing now. i think they needed to respond to october the 7th, but i think it's now got to the point where this has got to stop. and but you can disagree with what israel are doing at the moment and call out the actions and still call out the actions of iran here. this isn't a we can't just be tribal. this can't be like a football team. i'm blue. you're red, and we can't deviate here. this could have started world war iii last
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night. >> well, it may still have done matthew laza. absolutely. >> i mean, think what we what >> i mean, i think what we what we need now is cool heads actually agree actually don't always agree with rishi you know, nana. >> i wu- w n calling for cool >> but i think calling for cool and over the next, and calm heads over the next, you know, hours and days is really important. and i think we need and that needs be need that. and that needs to be the to as well . the message to israel as well. >> it was such a successful operation last night of israel >> it was such a successful operits)n last night of israel >> it was such a successful operits allies, night of israel >> it was such a successful operits allies, crucially, srael and its allies, crucially, working that, working together to ensure that, you casualties were you know, the casualties were tragic there they are, as low as they've been, and we need to hold coalition we hold that coalition together. we need to hold international support together . and support for israel together. and therefore, i it's right therefore, i think it's right that the choice to that israel makes the choice to respond calmly. i mean, benny gantz, has that israel will gantz, has said that israel will respond when the time is right. and that seems to me, rather than being pushed into an immediate response, which is what taking, taking what iran wants, taking, taking a step back, taking a breath, having proud of what israel having been proud of what israel did itself, and did to defend itself, and realising that a retaliation doesn't mean firing more missiles tonight. >> well, that's what iran did, didn't apparently because didn't they? apparently because the are the event that they are responding was on the 1st of responding to was on the 1st of april. but does that april. but it does seem that everyone told what was going
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everyone was told what was going to america knew, to happen. so america knew, everybody iran are everybody knew. so iran are arguing that actually it went perfectly well them. they perfectly well for them. they didn't anybody. didn't want to kill anybody. they send they just wanted to send a warning. and they only targeted actual, know, rather than actual, you know, rather than people that they take. >> i think what they wanted was that they wouldn't they would have known partly because of giving because giving notice and partly because they that they know the capabilities that israel the region israel and allies in the region have, also that all weren't have, but also that all weren't going to get all the missiles weren't going to get through. but i think they would have hoped that at least at some more than did get through. so than they did get through. so that more of that it would have been more of a defence, little a show of defence, a little humiliated what's happened. humiliated by what's happened. >> think they're humiliated? >> perhaps think >> or perhaps they? i think genuinely, they've done by genuinely, what they've done by doing this, they've suddenly unified where unified a group of allies where it tense. was tense and it was tense. it was tense and it was tense. it was tense and it was tense. it was tense and it was frayed. the relationships were frayed. they've just unified a group. and america and the have shown that they're the uk have shown that they're standing there together, and that's sent a message out to the world. i think what the point is, we are not going to tolerate watching destruction is, we are not going to tolerate watc level. destruction that level. >> but then who are in >> but then people who are in gaza well, why
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gaza may argue, well, why? why were protected? were they not protected? but they think in they have been. but i think in gaza simply need to gaza they just simply need to stop missiles and stop firing the missiles and give hostages. mean, stop firing the missiles and gsuspect hostages. mean, stop firing the missiles and gsuspect it hostages. mean, stop firing the missiles and gsuspect it would :ages. mean, stop firing the missiles and gsuspect it would bees. mean, stop firing the missiles and gsuspect it would be all mean, stop firing the missiles and gsuspect it would be all over|n, i suspect it would be all over if they did, but if you just tuned minutes after 3:00, tuned in 21 minutes after 3:00, it's fast approaching. i'm nana akua news live on akua this is a gb news live on tv, on digital radio. tv, online and on digital radio. coming up, rishi sunak has hit out at the, quote, excessive reach of a ruling by the echr but next, former prime minister liz truss says that she didn't know that the uk was sitting on a financial tinderbox when the mini—budget was announced. so was she really to blame for the market
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only one i think i knew. that was basically when chancellor, her chancellor kwarteng, her chancellor kwasi kwarteng, delivered now delivered the mini—budget now the former prime minister has made the revelation in her new book, liz says that she was astonished that nobody from the treasury or bank of england warned her that uk pension funds had invested heavily in risky assets, left them at risk assets, which left them at risk of going bust after the mini—budget. now the fallout or the economic fallout from the mini—budget was so disastrous that liz truss resigned after just days in office. but was just 49 days in office. but was she really to blame for the economic meltdown? a lot of people seem to think so. let's welcome clash's former welcome again my clash's former labour party adviser, matthew laza, and also a businessman and activist, adam brooks matthew laza.i activist, adam brooks matthew laza. i think they're extraordinary. >> these excerpts from liz's books and the and the interview. this is the interview she's been giving. i mean, as you say, she was prime minister. it's like anybody else's fault but and anybody else's fault but me. and i wants to i think if she wants to rehabilitate herself, actually apologising, she apologising, saying that she didn't get everything right and
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there she should there were things she should have have been a way there were things she should have into, have been a way there were things she should have into, if have been a way there were things she should have into, if not have been a way there were things she should have into, if not the we been a way there were things she should have into, if not the britishn a way back into, if not the british people's least they people's hearts. at least they were people's were the british people's respect. , i mean, they're respect. i mean, i mean, they're self—deluding the thing self—deluding at the whole thing . she talks about the queen and she sort of makes it all about her saying, oh, it was terrible for me having to deal with that in first day. it in the first day. well, it was worse the for the, for the worse for the for the, for the royal mean, i think worse for the for the, for the royalyou mean, i think worse for the for the, for the royalyou know,�*nean, i think worse for the for the, for the royalyou know,�*ne> i'm not saying that rishi sunak is let off either, because i tories keep trying i think the tories keep trying to time get to pretend every time they get a new minister a bit new prime minister it's a bit like a bus, know. three come like a bus, you know. three come along the along in one. my fault, it's the one before. need to take one before. so they need to take collective responsibility and collective responsibility. and that includes liz taking responsibility her responsibility for what were her decisions, was the
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decisions, which was the mini—budget for which mortgage holders are still holders like me are still paying the price. >> accept that >> but you must accept that mortgage held mortgage rates were held ridiculous , really low, and they ridiculous, really low, and they had to come up at some point. yes, would have been yes, that would have been the right unfortunately right point. unfortunately for liz, guy liz, she was the fall guy and they they went up more than they and they went up more than they and they went up more than they would have otherwise by maybe more than maybe half a percent more than they have. they would have. >> saying mortgage >> i'm not saying that mortgage rates where they rates would have held where they were. of were. so, but the impact of the mini—budget thinking mini—budget and the not thinking through the consequences for pension market pension funds and the market reaction was what really was really she really good for her. so she needs to say sorry. >> brooks from the >> adam brooks look from the start boris thing start when the whole boris thing was said this was going on, i said on this on this and said on this channel and i said on twitter that sometimes it's the better devil, you know. better the devil, you know. >> kept saying that >> and i kept saying it that you get him, going to get rid of him, it's going to get rid of him, it's going to get worse. and look what's get a lot worse. and look what's happened. you had get a lot worse. and look what's happisunak you had get a lot worse. and look what's happisunak plotting you had get a lot worse. and look what's happisunak plotting for u had get a lot worse. and look what's happisunak plotting for overd get a lot worse. and look what's happisunak plotting for over a rishi sunak plotting for over a year to get rid of boris, registered the domain name for his leadership. it's obvious that the establishment wanted their guy in power no matter what. now liz truss was popular with members. voters wanted her in, you know, she got the job.
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but i believe that a lot of this budget, was right. but i think the advisors stitched her up a lot with the optics and the way that it was delivered. and i believe, honestly, that powerful forces from the establishment and maybe rishi sunak de—banking contacts manipulated those markets, to make it worse, to force her out. so there was no way for her to carry on. and it was an easy pr spin to the pubuc was an easy pr spin to the public to say, she's cost you your mortgage. it's liz truss that has hurt you in the pocket, and there's no going back for that. once the population believes that one lady has cost them x amount of hundreds of pounds a month, it doesn't matter what said afterwards , matter what said afterwards, they're not going to believe it and they're not going to like her it does seem her because it does seem a little bit unfair, because i'm reading telegraph reading today in the telegraph that in the that tories fear sunak is in the grip donors. grip of super rich donors. >> course, if that's his grip of super rich donors. >> party, course, if that's his grip of super rich donors. >> party, fearing if that's his grip of super rich donors. >> party, fearing that, t's his grip of super rich donors. >> party, fearing that, then s grip of super rich donors. >> party, fearing that, then i own party, fearing that, then i don't truth is in don't know how much truth is in this, but it's written in the daily telegraph. it's in
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daily telegraph. it's there in the sunday telegraph today. and the sunday telegraph today. and the lot of those the point is that a lot of those rich will probably be rich donors will probably be people have some of people who have who own some of these some links these banks or have some links with a lot of these banks. >> power out there that >> there's power out there that can markets. there's can move markets. there's favours done. let's can move markets. there's favcyou done. let's can move markets. there's favcyou know, done. let's can move markets. there's favcyou know, i done. let's can move markets. there's favcyou know, i used one. let's can move markets. there's favcyou know, i used on they also printed a lot of money. too much. >> one holds the bank of >> no one ever holds the bank of england account. or the obr england to account. or the obr policy is made their policy is made on their decisions a lot of the time. >> but she didn't consult them. >> but she didn't consult them. >> did she know she had no. i also have to question the advisers, say regularly on advisers, and i say regularly on here, believe our mps are here, i believe our mps are advised by some of the worst people out there. they're clueless . clueless. >> do you think, matthew lawson? >> do you think, matthew lawson?
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>> well, i when i was doing it too, you were a former adviser. >> i'll come to you. >> i'll come to you. >> i know adam wouldn't tell me that, but, the look, i think that, but, the look, i think that you're right, to the extent that you're right, to the extent that i think that the tory establishment wanted liz establishment never wanted liz truss. think they wanted truss. no, i think they wanted rishi, more in line. rishi, who is much more in line. and obviously, bringing cameron back that, you know, his back proves that, you know, his party a traditional party more a more traditional tory still party more a more traditional tory she still party more a more traditional tory she needs still party more a more traditional tory she needs to still party more a more traditional tory she needs to take still think she needs to take responsibility too responsibility for going too far or and the or too fast and for the consequences of it . and just in consequences of it. and just in terms a rehabilitation, it's terms of a rehabilitation, it's that which that taking responsibility which will be, well, should all will be, well, they should all take responsibility. >> there a lot of >> i think there are a lot of them, the labour >> i think there are a lot of them, who the labour >> i think there are a lot of them, who the; labour >> i think there are a lot of them, who the economy party, who left the economy in such state the party, who left the economy in such party state the party, who left the economy in such party pickede the party, who left the economy in such party picked it the party, who left the economy in such party picked it up. the tory party picked it up. >> the global financial crisis. >> the global financial crisis. >> yes. remember, was you >> yes. remember, that was you and all that, and gordon brown and all that, not gordon brown. >> the global economy >> save the global economy by selling gold. >> save the global economy by selllig gold. >> save the global economy by selllig our)ld. >> save the global economy by selllig our economy economy >> i believe our economy economy would a place if would be in a better place if they'd left boris where he was than and i think than we are now. and i think a lot of people will think that. >> okay. do you >> okay. well, what do you think? gb views think? at home? gb views gbnews.com is new one. sorry gbnews.com is the new one. sorry i'll give you the new one in a minute. but you're with me. i'm nana this gb news, nana akua. this is gb news, next. has hit out
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next. rishi sunak has hit out at, and i quote this excessive reach of a ruling of a ruling by the echr. but first, let's get your latest news headlines with aaron armstrong. >> it's 331. i'm aaron armstrong in the gb newsroom . the israeli in the gb newsroom. the israeli war cabinet says it will exact a price from iran for its overnight assault, warning tehran will face painful sanctions, including in the form of missiles. iran meanwhile, says it will launch a much larger attack if israel retaliates. but the us president, joe biden's , warned president, joe biden's, warned his israeli counterpart, benjamin netanyahu the us would not take part in any retaliatory strikes. it comes after rishi sunak confirmed raf planes did shoot down a number of iranian drones and missiles overnight, in what he described as a dangerous escalation in tensions with israel . well, the prime with israel. well, the prime minister is now calling for calm
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ahead of a meeting with g7 leaders . the knife attacker, who leaders. the knife attacker, who killed six people at a shopping centre in sydney, advertised himself online as a male escort and tried to join groups of gun owners. joel cauchi had been known to police, particularly over the last five years, but hadnt over the last five years, but hadn't been arrested or charged before yesterday's attack. police believe the 40 year old suffered from schizophrenia and used drugs, including methamphetamine and psychedelics. his family have released a statement in support of the police officer who shot and killed him, saying she was only doing her job. labour says only doing herjob. labour says it will impose strict 24 hour time limits on police when deaung time limits on police when dealing with serious domestic abuse cases. shadow home secretary yvette cooper says she's sick and tired of the government treating violence against women and girls as inevitable. but the government says is soft on crime and says labour is soft on crime and doesn't have a plan to tackle it . and the duke of kent is stepping down as colonel of the scots guards after 50 years. the
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duke arrived at the regiment's black sunday parade in westminster this morning . the 88 westminster this morning. the 88 year old says holding the position has been a true honour. more on all of our stories available on gb news alerts. the qr code on your screen will get you there, and there's also more details on our website. now back to . nana. to. nana. >> and thank you, aaron. coming up, should we be embarrassed about the state of affairs in our own military as tensions overseas continue to escalate
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sunak has criticised the excessive reach of an illegitimate ruling by the european court of human rights or the echr which oversees the duty of governments to achieve net zero. now this comes following a landmark ruling that governments have a duty to protect people from climate change. the prime minister's comments are expected to fuel continuing speculation that the conservative party will include pulling out of the echr in their manifesto, so welcome again to mike lashes, former labour party adviser matthew laza and also businessman and activist adam brooks. adam brooks i'm coming to you first. start the air con. so what do you think? do you think rishi is right? and a former the tory manifesto should say that we should be pulling out of this. >> i don't believe word rishi >> i don't believe a word rishi sunak do not believe he sunak says. i do not believe he has intention of leaving the has any intention of leaving the echr opinion that echr i this is my opinion that we should leave the echr. it is neither what it was set up for after a world war two, and i believe it has manifested into
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something that is a monster now, like the eu grew into something what it shouldn't have been. i believe the echr now believes it can set law rather than interpret law. i mean , we've interpret law. i mean, we've seen the recent ruling of the climate change madness in switzerland. they've used article eight, which wasn't designed for anything like climate change. so it's being abused. their their legislation is being abused by lawyers to, to use it against things that it's not meant to be used for. >> clarify article eight a lot of people will be asking they've used article eight. >> article eight. yeah, i'm not a law maker, but i've read that article eight was used here, to force governments , to do more to force governments, to do more to protect their people on climate change. now, article eight has also been used, for asylum , also been used, for asylum, failed asylum seekers in this country that we have to house them. so it's such a broad, how can it be used for housing of asylum seekers and also for climate change? i mean, this is
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i mean, this court is a british judge in strasbourg has already said that it's gone beneath, beyond its remit . beyond its remit. >> but a lot of people argue, though, that, the echr was set up though, that, the echr was set ”p by though, that, the echr was set up by us in different times. >> yeah . so again, i said it has >> yeah. so again, i said it has grown into something. it's grown into a monster like the eu did. it's a power grab . it's now it's a power grab. it's now trying to tell governments what it has to do . remember, we've it has to do. remember, we've got terrorists that we haven't been able to deport because of echr rulings, this a foreign court should not have the power over us as a country to rule our borders or set our laws, but we don't seem to even when we are in charge. >> so, i mean, what do we do? we've had let's take net zero. let's talk about the 2030 deadune let's talk about the 2030 deadline that we brought forward foolishly, the eu kept it at 2035. then we rolled back on ourselves . even when we have the ourselves. even when we have the opportunity to ignore it, we seem to follow eu or echr rulings. absolutely. >> and i think that's one of the
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problems about rishi flagging again today. or number 10 flagging again today that they again today. or number 10 flaggi|leave. n today that they again today. or number 10 flaggi|leave. i today that they again today. or number 10 flaggi|leave. i mean, that they again today. or number 10 flaggi|leave. i mean, they'vey might leave. i mean, they've been this since came been saying this since they came to power 2010. we've had, you to power in 2010. we've had, you know, half know, a decade and a half of promises no, promises to leave the echr. no, i we should leave i don't think we should leave the i think it's the echr because i think it's wrongly blamed, for a lot of things as say, it things because, as you say, it wasn't made us set the wasn't echr that made us set the net it isn't. we net zero target. it isn't. we did so there did it. yeah, exactly. so there are do ourselves are things that we do ourselves which when people are things that we do ourselves which it when people are things that we do ourselves which it turns when people are things that we do ourselves which it turns out when people are things that we do ourselves which it turns out they're people are things that we do ourselves which it turns out they're not)ple when it turns out they're not very looking for very popular people looking for somebody shift blame somebody to shift the blame to. then they try and shift the blame to echr. i mean, i do blame to the echr. i mean, i do think ruling week think that the ruling this week is ridiculous, on is slightly ridiculous, but on the doesn't the other hand, it doesn't actually mean that any government has to do anything. it's slightly it's just a sort of slightly embarrassing, doesn'tit's embarrassing, it doesn't it's not governments not going to force governments to or z. so, well, if to do x, y, or z. so, well, if you don't, though , then they you don't, though, then they say, you're breaking say, oh, you're breaking international do that international law. we do that because i made because because i made a documentary echr, over documentary about the echr, over ten years ago. and the big issue then votes for prisoners, then was votes for prisoners, because we were told by the echr that we had we had to give prisoners vote. they ruled prisoners the vote. they ruled on cross party on it. there's cross party agreement here. that's a agreement here. that's not a good idea. we haven't done good idea. and we haven't done it. still here. it. and we're still here. and
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prisoners still. >> but zero to have >> but net zero seems to have taken sort of route of its own. >> it's a mm- mar-a mm.- >> it's a cult like, it's a cult like movement. >> zero, because people have >> net zero, because people have signed because they signed up to it, because they because that political signed up to it, because they becausenow that political signed up to it, because they becausenow is1at political signed up to it, because they becausenow is obviouslyal choice. now regret is obviously regretting choice. now regret is obviously regretti again. it wasn't the echr. >> let's remember this lefty argument that i get on twitter and on here on debates. sometimes that suddenly if we leave the echr, we're we're like russia , hold on, america, russia, hold on, america, australia, new zealand, they're not ruled by the echr. you know, they're not committing , crimes they're not committing, crimes against their people . this is a against their people. this is a ridiculous, ridiculous argument. but if we leave the echr that suddenly people are losing all their human rights, that's not going to be the case. we can bnng going to be the case. we can bring it in house. we're a civilised country. we do not need a foreign court telling us what we can and can't do. how can we not deport a dangerous terrorist? because a foreign court, that don't court, a judge that we don't even know, never met, says there is a british. >> i mean, a british judge serves it at all times. it's serves on it at all times. it's not foreign it's an not a foreign court. it's an international which
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international court of which we've and we play we've signed up to. and we play our in. i mean, i think we our part in. i mean, i think we need sure british need to make sure british politicians take responsibility for i know for what happens at home. i know what about australia for what happens at home. i know what states, about australia for what happens at home. i know what states, but ut australia for what happens at home. i know what states, but it australia for what happens at home. i know what states, but i thinkralia and the states, but i think there human rights there are some human rights in there are some human rights in the that , that i would the states, that, that i would actually they actually quite like it if they had some to the echr had some recourse to the echr and is in europe, and the key thing is in europe, we to show leadership. we need to show leadership. and that's the eu, that's europe that's not the eu, that's europe as continent, because this is as a continent, because this is what after what churchill, set up after the different times. matthew. well, i we can certainly look at i think we can certainly look at reform of the european convention rights. i convention on human rights. i think, if were playing think, and if we were playing a more part and not saying think, and if we were playing a more in, part and not saying think, and if we were playing a more in, we're rt and not saying think, and if we were playing a more in, we're out1d not saying think, and if we were playing a more in, we're out and )t saying think, and if we were playing a more in, we're out and never ng we're in, we're out and never actually leaving, we actually leaving, maybe we could do never wanted to do like the eu never wanted to negotiate back negotiate with cameron back in the it's right saying this. >> it's all right saying this. these organisations do not want to they want to negotiate. they do not want to negotiate. they do not want to power away. all they to give power away. all they want is more power. >> think they want to >> i think they want to negotiate people who want negotiate with people who want to out. and the to pull out. and that was the issue with that would issue with cameron. that would be the european be the issue with the european court. think back to >> but i think going back to sunak, going leave echr. >> emma- em“ >> absolutely. he can put it in. >> absolutely. he can put it in. >> you i don't think he >> you know, i don't think he should the candidate should be the candidate that takes general takes us into a general election. honestly do believe election. i honestly do believe and you're going to disagree. if we with someone suella
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we went with someone like suella braverman on braverman and we went heavy on immigration, said that it's a promise that we're going to leave the echr the polls would tighten, consider ably, but at the moment no one believes a word rishi sunak says. and every day these polls going to get day these polls are going to get worse. worse, and they're worse. and worse, and they're going to be annihilated at the next election. they've got next election. so they've got a decision make on the outcome. decision to make on the outcome. >> if went for >> i mean, if they went for suella, think they would win suella, i think they would win some support, some support back from lose from reform. they might lose a little side of from reform. they might lose a littlequation side of from reform. they might lose a littlequation the side of from reform. they might lose a littlequation the lib;ide of from reform. they might lose a littlequation the lib dems, the equation to the lib dems, probably be a net probably it might be a net increase. i think the problem with rishi is he's trying be with rishi is he's trying to be all all people, and all things to all people, and he's keeping either the he's not keeping either the right party or the left. right of the party or the left. >> promises he >> he makes promises that he cannot he's done that cannot keep and he's done that since campaign. absolutely. >> he made a very stupid >> well, he made a very stupid promise about stopping the boats. knew were boats. if we all knew they were coming well, knew that coming. well, we all knew that that impossible thing to that was an impossible thing to say, and should say, to do. and so he should have more intelligent say, to do. and so he should haverealising more intelligent say, to do. and so he should have realising that)re intelligent say, to do. and so he should have realising that)re inwasgent and realising that that was a very pledge. lots of very stupid pledge. but lots of you have getting in touch you have been getting in touch with remember, with your views and remember, you touch you can get in touch gbnews.com/yoursay paula says that truss was stitched up. sunak thought the party members
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would vote him when they didn't. he had to get her out, would vote him when they didn't. he had to get her out , then band he had to get her out, then band the members voting the party members voting so he could in number 10. tim could squat in number 10. tim says nana. the attack last night was has been enabled by years of appeasement, starting with obama and ending with biden. only trump saw iran for what it is, and mark says whilst iran gets itself conflicts, itself weakened by conflicts, saudi arabia will become a superpower and that is heavily backed by the west and hopefully the west will keep it that way and respect what they offer. they a trump card the they are a trump card for the future. should there be future conflicts . and liz says we've conflicts. and liz says we've left ourselves with limited resources on being able to defend ourselves. but all nato countries rely on each other for support and this made us support and this has made us feel invincible . well, what do feel invincible. well, what do you i don't whether you think? i don't know whether we comfortable we should be that comfortable about it, but there's also a poll twitter today and poll up on twitter today and throughout the asking, were throughout the show asking, were we to we right to send jets to israel's aid? don't forget to get in touch in the usual way.
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oh, well. so carry on. coming up. let's do it then. my monologue is on the way. would we be able to protect ourselves if israel if the shoe was on the other foot? that's the question i'm asking. but next, jk rowling has politicians has accused politicians of snuggung has accused politicians of snuggling up to trans campaigners. so is time campaigners. so is it time to ditch campaign groups such as stonewall mermaids?
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good afternoon and welcome on board. this is gb news. if you're just tuned in, where have you're just tuned in, where have you been? we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua live on tv, online and on digital radio. this is the clash. now, jk rowling has accused politicians of snuggling up to trans campaigners. the harry potter author has called for an investigation into why political parties are embracing the language of pro trans groups. now she says that stonewall and mermaids, these are some of the groups, have been given
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privileged places at the table , privileged places at the table, and many suggest that the likes of stonewall have faced instances where they have appeared to contradict their own policies in past. so is it policies in the past. so is it time to ditch campaign groups such those ? well, welcome such as those? well, welcome again to michael asher's former labour adviser, matthew labour party adviser, matthew lazor, and also businessman and activist brooks . well, i activist adam brooks. well, i know adam feels strongly about this, so i'm going to have to come to straight away and come to you straight away and then come to you. matthew. then i'll come to you. matthew. >> think events, >> look, i think recent events, the has proven lot the cass report has proven a lot of there is a very of us right there is a very sinister and gender sinister trans and gender ideology out there. and ideology agenda out there. and there has been for many years , there has been for many years, as a father, i'm horrified that it's reached schools and that it's, it's harmed children so badly. i mean , people like badly. i mean, people like stonewall or groups like stonewall or groups like stonewall and mermaids have basically encouraged to the ignore the damaging effects of puberty blockers . yeah. and it's puberty blockers. yeah. and it's like we've been bombarded with
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this encouragement that all things trans is normal . let's things trans is normal. let's just remember to change gender or to be trans is not normal. this is not normal to do this. this is not normal to do this. this is not normal to do this. this is an extreme behaviour that, many, many have mental health illness. there's a lot with autism . you know, these are with autism. you know, these are people that maybe need support rather than encourage , meant to rather than encourage, meant to change what they think is their gender and what they are, or just given time to grow. >> because a lot of it's during puberty, isn't it? >> yeah. a lot of celebs, a lot of politicians should feel very ashamed at how they're facilitated this agenda to be pushed and especially reach our schools and our adverts and our corporations, you know, and, and push onto our children. i think this is one of the biggest scandals that we will see in decades. and jk rowling is she's like a one woman army that is just exposing this. some of the tweets that she's put out there, you know, she's exposing mermaids as having sent, chest
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binders to 13 year old girls, and she's she's exposing stonewall's ceo . you know, he's stonewall's ceo. you know, he's saying one thing, trying to ride back, reverse ferreting on on what they've said in the past. they're guilty of pushing harmful, well , policies on children. >> but they would argue that they are trying to help and protect these children. and these children are, you know, going through something and they're assisting matthew laza. >> i think >> i mean, look, i think the cast report is really i cast report is really welcome. i think there's been huge amount think there's been a huge amount of from of agreement, including from some trans rights campaigners, that there's an awful lot of good cast report. i good in the cast report. and i think agreed that the think we all agreed that the previous with the, previous situation with the, with the clinic was certainly unacceptable and that what was going in, in the going on in that in, in the portman service wasn't acceptable. so i think that i'm more concerned about mermaids, which is currently under a charity commission investigation. and some of the reports, if they're to be believed, like sending out chest binders, are more alarming. i think on stonewall, which has been work been has done such great work over 30 years, on lgbt
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over the past 30 years, on lgbt rights. i think has done a needs to be protected, but i think it needs to look at itself in terms of those contradictions you've spoken sometimes it's spoken of, where sometimes it's seen. it did a thing saying two year be taught year olds, should be taught about 50 different genders. and that contradict that seemed to contradict another advice. that seemed to contradict ano it er advice. that seemed to contradict ano it said advice. that seemed to contradict ano it said two advice. that seemed to contradict ano it said two yearvice. that seemed to contradict ano it said two year olds could >> it said two year olds could be that is one of the be trans. now that is one of the most things read most horrifying things i read today. jk rowling today. actually, jk rowling tweeted that out there to say that two year old think that a two year old can think that a two year old can think that another gender. that they can be another gender. when my four year old still thinks she's elsa on some days, you know there's no common sense and to me it's very, very badly phrased. it's very sinister that these people actually believe that these kids want to change genden that these kids want to change gender. and unfortunately, out there , there are parents that there, there are parents that almost see a trans kid as a fashion accessory now. and i think this whole, agenda has pushed on people that this is normal to change gender. and we have to push back. and as i said earlier, to be trans is not normal . normal. >> and i don't agree. it's
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extreme, i think. >> i think it's extreme big step adam. >> but there are clearly people throughout history, who have been it's not normal behaviour, is it? i think i think as far as children are concerned, children needs the space to, needs to be given the space to, to the world. and that to explore the world. and that can experimenting with, can include experimenting with, you know, breaking previous gender stereotypes . so that gender stereotypes. so that doesn't mean that people should be sort of labelled at the age of which completely of two, which i completely disagree with. and i think that what we need to see is i'm sure that stonewall will come into line the with what the cass line with the with what the cass report said. and i hope line with the with what the cass repo we said. and i hope line with the with what the cass repo we can said. and i hope line with the with what the cass repo we can alli. and i hope line with the with what the cass repo we can all bend i hope line with the with what the cass repo we can all be moreiope line with the with what the cass repo we can all be more positive that we can all be more positive because the trans because members of the trans community but community do need support, but that different some of the that is different to some of the mistakes being made mistakes that were being made previously, mistakes that were being made pre'what y, mistakes that were being made pre' what y, lot mistakes that were being made pre'what y, lot of harm to >> what does a lot of harm to the community are of the trans community are some of these you know, these trans activists, you know, they black up, and they mask up, they black up, and they mask up, they black up, and they women's rights events they go to women's rights events and i mean, they go to women's rights events andtrans i mean, they go to women's rights events andtrans activists i mean, they go to women's rights events andtrans activists onlinei mean, they go to women's rights events andtrans activists online areean, the trans activists online are on twitter are some of the most vile and aggressive people that i've encountered on my 15 years online. >> i think there's horrible scenes where, you know, blokes in, in balaclavas are trying to close women down, but it's still
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we need to make sure the trans community, it's toxic. >> i think it's very toxic from that side. >> well, it awful, isn't it? >> well, it is awful, isn't it? and the bit that all the and i hate the bit that all the trans women women. they trans women are women. when they were shouting were arguing and shouting and being the of being aggressive to the likes of kelly everything, kelly j. keane and everything, it's totally unacceptable. but, what views? gb views at what are your views? gb views at gb news.com, now tell me what you think on everything we're discussing. it's gbnews.com forward slash . you all say or forward slash. you all say or tweet me @gbnews now, the organisations would say that they're doing important work to support transgender young people, and that's how they support transgender young people see d that's how they support transgender young people see it. hat's how they support transgender young people see it. but; how they support transgender young people see it. but aiow they support transgender young people see it. but a lot they support transgender young peoplesee it. but a lot ofey would see it. but a lot of people don't see that way. people don't see it that way. i'm still come. the i'm nana akua still to come. the great this hour. great british debate this hour. i'm we right to i'm asking, were we right to send israel? what are send jets to israel? what are your views? i'd love to hear your views? i'd love to hear your first your thoughts, but first let's get update your weather. get an update with your weather. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> good afternoon. welcome to your latest gb news weather from
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the met office. so higher pressure out towards the south does bring us some more settled conditions for a time this afternoon, low pressure afternoon, but low pressure situated out towards the north afternoon, but low pressure situate uk ut towards the north afternoon, but low pressure situate uk slowly|rds the north afternoon, but low pressure situate uk slowly moves north afternoon, but low pressure situate uk slowly moves its rth afternoon, but low pressure situate uk slowly moves its way of the uk slowly moves its way towards us through the rest of the weekend into start the weekend and into the start of the week in the south, of the new week in the south, though be on to though we will be holding on to those conditions time those dry conditions for a time this afternoon. a bit of this afternoon. perhaps a bit of late, sunshine around, but late, hazy sunshine around, but it's northwest it's in the northwest that we see strongest winds and see those strongest winds and some blustery showers pushing their and eastwards their way south and eastwards through the early hours of monday morning. the showers, always across northern always heaviest across northern and western parts, and we could even see snow the even see some snow across the hills that lead to hills and that will lead to quite night with quite a chilly night with temperatures single temperatures in the low single figures further figures here and even further south reaching much above 7 south not reaching much above 7 or 8 degrees. but or 8 degrees. so a chilly but blustery start to the day on monday. the heaviest bands of showers way south showers clear their way south and through monday and eastwards through monday morning, leaving some sunny spells as we head into the afternoon. there will still be plenty of showers around though, and again could to and again these could turn to snow pennines late snow across the pennines late district across high district and across the high ground with ground of scotland, and with a brisk northwesterly breeze it
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will be feeling very chilly. highs in the south reaching highs in the south not reaching much above 12 or 13 degrees. tuesday does start a little bit dner tuesday does start a little bit drier for most of us. there will still be a few showers around across ireland, across northern ireland, wales and scotland , and northern parts of scotland, but the best of the sunshine across northern parts across central northern parts of england of mainland england and much of mainland scotland showers scotland as well. a few showers around wednesday , but around still on wednesday, but there are hints of higher pressure returning in the pressure returning later in the week bit week and something a little bit milder way . milder on the way. >> looks like things are heating up boxt boilers as sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> good afternoon. you're watching and listening to dup news on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua. now, still to come. in the next houn now, still to come. in the next hour. my monologue. i'm asking. i'm talking about whether you think that we'd be able to protect ourselves the way the israel has if the shoe were on the other foot after that onslaught from iran . so what are onslaught from iran. so what are your thoughts? get in touch as even your thoughts? get in touch as ever. forward slash ever. gbnews.com forward slash
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news. good afternoon. it's 4:00. welcome to gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua. and on digital radio. i'm nana akua . and for the next two akua. and for the next two hours, me and my panel will be taking some of the big topics taking on some of the big topics hitting headlines right now. hitting the headlines right now. this is all about opinion. this show is all about opinion. it's mine. theirs. of it's mine. it's theirs. and of course yours . we will be course it's yours. we will be debating, discussing and at times will disagree. but no times we will disagree. but no one cancelled. so one will be cancelled. so joining today is broadcaster joining me today is broadcaster and journalist danny kelly and also author and broadcaster christine hamilton . up next, my christine hamilton. up next, my monologue if the shoe were on the other foot, would we be able to protect ourselves the way israel has after the attacks by iran? and today, my outside guests now be joined by one of
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showbiz most captivating leading ladies with roles alongside the likes peter sellers and kirk likes of peter sellers and kirk douglas, and appearances in tv shows like coronation street and mind your language. my special guest today became a cult figure of the 70s, but can you guess who she is? then on supplement sunday, i have a very special guest joining me to talk about her experience of the hate crime hell, 74 year old morag macdougall brown was carted off by the cops after being wrongly accused of a hate crime, as many fear the snp's hate crime law is being exploited. but before we do all that, let's get your latest . news. latest. news. >> good afternoon to you. it's a minute past 4:00. i'm aaron armstrong, the israeli war cabinet says it will exact a price from iran in response to last night's attack . when the last night's attack. when the time is right, it's not clear how israel will respond , but its how israel will respond, but its war cabinet says painful sanctions follow, which sanctions will follow, which could include missiles. iran, meanwhile, has now
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meanwhile, says it has now achieved its objective but has vowed to launch a much larger attack if israel retaliates. rishi sunak confirmed raf planes did shoot down a number of the 300 iranian drones and missiles launched overnight. he says. had it been successful, the fallout for regional stability would be hard to overstate. the prime minister is calling for calm ahead of a meeting with g7 world leaders to discuss the crisis. >> this was a dangerous and unnecessary escalation, which i've condemned in the strongest terms thanks to an international coordinated effort which the united kingdom participated in almost all of these missiles were intercepted, saving lives not just in israel, but in neighbouring countries like jordan as well . the raf sent jordan as well. the raf sent additional planes to the region as part of our existing operations to counter daesh in iraq and syria. i can confirm that our planes did shoot down a number of iranian attack drones. i don't want to pay tribute to the bravery and professionalism
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of our flying into the of our pilots flying into the face of danger. >> a group of british iranians have responded to the attack with a demonstration outside the iranian embassy in london to show solidarity with israel . show solidarity with israel. >> we, the british iranian diaspora, have gathered here today in protest to let the world know that the war of the mullahs, which has started for really in reality, 45 years. but last night they launched over 300 missiles at israel. is not the war of the people of iran. and we are urging the public, the media and the rest of the world to recognise that this is the war of the mullahs and not the war of the mullahs and not the war of the mullahs and not the war of the people of iran. >> the knife attacker who killed six people at a shopping centre in sydney, advertised himself onune in sydney, advertised himself online as a male escort and tried to join groups of gun owners. joel cauchi had been known to police, particularly over the last five years, but hadnt over the last five years, but hadn't been arrested or charged before yesterday's attack. police believe the 40 year old suffered from schizophrenia and used drugs , including
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used drugs, including methamphetamine and psychedelics. his family released a statement in support of the police officer who shot and killed him, saying she was only her job. a cabinet only doing herjob. a cabinet minister has insisted the government's rwanda plans on track, with flights due to take off within weeks . health off within weeks. health secretary victoria atkins says the home office is ready to go, despite the troubled bill still making its way through parliament. no airline has been named to transport the asylum seekers after rwanda's state owned carrier turned down a request. the prime minister has repeatedly said the flights would take off by spring, although no date has been set . although no date has been set. labour says it will impose strict 24 hour time limits on police when dealing with serious domestic abuse cases. the initiative has been dubbed raneem's law after the 22 year old raneem oudeh, who was killed by her former partner just 11 days after obtaining an order against him. shadow home secretary yvette cooper says she's sick and tired of the government treating violence against women and girls as
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inevitable instead of an emergency. but the government says labour is soft on crime and doesn't have a plan to tackle it well. yvette cooper also says angela rayner has done the right thing by taking independent legal advice amid a row over her living arrangements. it's after her former chief adviser gave a statement to police contradicting the deputy labour leader's claims. police launched an investigation this week to determine if there had been any breaches of electoral law. ms rayner says she'll step down if she's found to have committed a crime, but insists she's followed the rules . a new poll followed the rules. a new poll suggests humza yousaf popularity among snp voters has fallen sharply . a survey of more than sharply. a survey of more than 1000 people in scotland found the first minister's score fell to —7. amongst those who voted for the snp in 2019, his approval with the general public also dropped to levels similar to his conservative rivals . it to his conservative rivals. it comes after the introduction of
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a new hate crime law prompted more than 7000 complaints in its first week, and more on our stories in our later bulletins, or more right now, if you want. by or more right now, if you want. by scanning the qr code on your screen for gb news alerts or going to our website for more details. it's back to . nana. details. now it's back to. nana. >> thank you aaron. good afternoon . it's just coming up afternoon. it's just coming up to seven minutes after 4:00. i'm nana akua. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. brave israel now that's an army. that's how you protect your people . brave israel. we in this people. brave israel. we in this country should be embarrassed about the state of affairs of our own. yes, we came to israel's aid, but it got me thinking as i watched the battle unfold overnight. and i'm afraid to say it, but i can't say we'd be able to protect ourselves the way israel has. if the shoe were on the other foot. our armed forces are in a mess. we are not
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geared for war. we don't have bunkers , early warning systems bunkers, early warning systems and any coordination at all. regardless of your view of whether you think israel are right wrong, they know how to right or wrong, they know how to protect citizens and it is protect their citizens and it is clear to me that their people come first, their come first, that their government , put aside government and again, put aside your views on benjamin netanyahu, the israeli netanyahu, that the israeli government know how to protect its in this its people. and we in this country need to take a leaf out of that book, because if the bombardment that happened to israel happened in uk, israel happened here in the uk, i'm afraid i don't think there would be anything left of this country where are your stances on gaza? whilst hamas continued to rockets at israel and to fire rockets at israel and hold in tunnels hold hostages in tunnels and bunkers , israel remains intact bunkers, israel remains intact because israel invested in an iron dome, unlike hamas, who invested in fungus infected, infested tunnels without the dome. israel, who was protecting its people from all angles, hamas , the houthis and hezbollah hamas, the houthis and hezbollah basically things that begin with an h would have been flattened last night until the letter i
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got involved. and that's iran invoking article 51 of the un charter. iran unleashed operation true promise, a decision made by iran's national security council in response to an attack that killed its officials on april fools day at the iranian embassy in damascus in syria . now, the supreme in syria. now, the supreme leader warned that iran would respond decisively. since october the 7th, israeli military have killed 17 iranian officials in targeted attacks in syria, lebanon and the like. but the attack in damascus was the final straw for the israelis. the iranian officials . and last the iranian officials. and last night was the first time in iran's history that it had been taken actual direct action, rather than by proxy . the rather than by proxy. the iranian foreign minister posted on nxt that the usa were given plenty of warning, so there are no surprises, and many thought that iranian proxies would respond. but last night it unleashed some 300 rockets on israel . now, unleashed some 300 rockets on israel. now, as you can unleashed some 300 rockets on israel . now, as you can see, israel. now, as you can see, unprecedented scenes and some of
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you, if you're not listening on radio, these are the rockets. this is a clip that uri geller sent me from live from aviv sent me from live from tel aviv for iran to launch direct attacks instead of attacks over israel, instead of using as unprecedented using proxies as unprecedented in israel, have been fielding rockets all sides on a rockets from all sides on a daily basis because it dared to hold hamas to account. whilst i do not condone killing anyone, if you believe israel's war in gazais if you believe israel's war in gaza is over the top, i would argue that their targeted attacks on officials who are directly involved with potentially coordinating the war against them is preferable to firing rockets at gaza . i think firing rockets at gaza. i think it's firing rockets at gaza. i think wsfime firing rockets at gaza. i think it's time that the uk got real about the state of its own armed forces. last night should have been a wake up call. the message was clear don't mess with israel . but sadly the same could not be said for us here in the uk. all right, so before we get stuck into the debates, here's what else is coming up today for the great british debate this houn the great british debate this hour. i'm asking,
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the great british debate this hour. i'm asking , were we right hour. i'm asking, were we right to send jets to israel's aid? rishi sunak has confirmed uk jets were used to intercept a number of iranian drones and missiles fired at israel in an unprecedented attack. it's the first time that iran has targeted israel directly from its own soil . so for the great its own soil. so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking, were we right to send jets to israel's then at jets to israel's aid? then at 450, worldview ? we'll get 450, its worldview? we'll get the latest updates from the middle east as and missile middle east as drone and missile strikes from iran escalate further joined further tension. i'll be joined live in the studio by gary bond and james marlow to get their thoughts . and we'll also thoughts. and we'll also cross live to duddridge, live to speak to paul duddridge, host the politics people host of the politics people podcast, on the view the podcast, on the view in the states, israeli military states, as israeli military says, 99% of iran's 300 missiles were intercepted during last night's attack. then at five, it's my outside , my mystery it's my outside, my mystery guest. i'll be joined by one of showbiz most captivating leading ladies from dancing on the top, on top of the pops in the swinging 60s london to achieving cult status as a model and actress in the 70s, her career
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has been nothing short of adventurous. can you guess who she that's coming up in the she is that's coming up in the next hour? tell me what you think everything think on everything we're discussing. gbnews.com/yoursay . discussing. gbnews.com/yoursay. right, let's get started. let's welcome again to my panel, broadcaster and journalist danny kelly. and also author and broadcaster christine hamilton. christine hamilton , i'm going to christine hamilton, i'm going to start with you. what are your thoughts then on on how the state of our armed forces, when you see what happened last night and the way israel had coordinated with the rest of the world. jordan were on board, you know, they america were on board the uk. we participated as well. but the final line of defence was their own iron dome system. >> well, the first duty of any government is to defend its citizens. >> and israel clearly understands that they have perhaps more reason to be that vigilant than we do. but we neglect all that at our peril. i mean, we've allowed our armed forces to run right down in europe as a whole has depended
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on america . and way back, i on america. and way back, i mean, john was warning mean, john f kennedy was warning europe. you've got to pick up your own you've got to your own bat and you've got to look yourselves and now look after yourselves and now trump is beating trump is still is beating the drum you've spend drum again. you've got to spend the money. are the only ones the money. we are the only ones that rest of europe that do. the rest of europe doesn't. expect doesn't. we cannot expect america defending america to go on defending us. we spend a lot more we need to spend a lot more money on defence. i mean, it's laughable . we've got one laughable. we've got one aircraft carrier that i can't remember doesn't work . remember doesn't work. >> the other crew did it. we couldn't get any crew on it. got a anchor. didn't know how a rusty anchor. didn't know how to you know got no crew. >> you know one's got no crew. it unbelievable. britain, it is unbelievable. for britain, that such very vie that used to be such a very vie embarrassing. a really proud seafaring our navy used seafaring nation. our navy used to rule the world, so. yes. and we've got to defend israel. it's an it's a democratic bulwark against islamic extremism in an incredibly volatile part of the world. and, of course, these middle eastern players are proxies for russia, proxies for china before we know where we are. >> some of them are not some. >> some of them are not some. >> not all of them. no no. >> not all of them. no no. >> and let's let's be honest,
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some of them came to israel's aid allowing , some of them came to israel's aid allowing, iran to fly in aid not allowing, iran to fly in their airspace. and i think that must they shot down must mean that they shot down some rockets. it some of those rockets. and it wasn't iraq. think, wasn't just iran, iraq. i think, were in this were involved in all of this against israel. must man. against israel. they must man. >> they must have known that they to any they weren't going to get any through. think much through. i think as much as anything, was a shot anything, it was it was a shot across bows. it was a across the bows. it was a symbolic. symbolic, yes. >> well, shot >> i don't well, a shot across the with unprecedented the bows with an unprecedented drone over 330 drone attack of over 330 missiles. think that's a missiles. i don't think that's a shot across the bow, but powered by basically motorcycle engines , by basically motorcycle engines, they only travel about 100 miles an think. an hour, i think. >> look, i'm not a they're fairly easy to intercept. yeah, they're incredibly to they're incredibly easy to intercept . intercept. >> destroyed if >> they could have destroyed if that to the uk. that was coming to the uk. but they island. that was coming to the uk. but the yeah. island. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> but they know israel's got the the, the point the point is the, the point is our i'm the point is the, the point is ouri'm looking we >> i'm looking if we had a neighbour who wanted to obliterate us and send rockets, we have dome . if we would have an iron dome. if we would have an iron dome. if we neighbour who wanted to we had a neighbour who wanted to exterminate have bunkers. >> so there are plenty of people who probably exterminate who probably want to exterminate us and we not prepared. we us and we are not prepared. we don't know where you don't even know where would you go if you heard? and a siren for war.
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>> there would be pub , i should say. >> well, in london you go to a, you'd a tube station or you'd go to a tube station or something did in the something like they did in the bed, did in blitz. bed, like they did in the blitz. you'd to station like you'd go to a tube station like you the blitz. but there you did in the blitz. but there was plenty warning. would was plenty of warning. we would have plenty if we have plenty of warning if we thought were under an thought that we were under an imminent thought that we were under an imrbut nt that. but we are >> but you say that. but we are not prepared. like. like if i had there's in had nobody. there's like in israel if you israel they have. listen, if you hear happens. you've hear this, this happens. you've got you've got the phone message, you've got the phone message, you've got got that. got this, you've got that. they're organised. >> they >> that's because they have hostile think hostile neighbours. i think it's inappropriate to compare the current of the british current plight of the british military with israel are military with what israel are doing. got national doing. they've got national service, they've got hundreds of thousands people who thousands of young people who are forced to up and are forced to sign up and they're attack, basically they're under attack, basically 24 hours a seven. so i don't think it was right to say israel has got an iron dome and we haven't we don't haven't because we just don't need i but you're need one. that i say, but you're comparing two militaries. comparing the two militaries. >> onslaught, an >> if we had an onslaught, an attack that, we would have >> if we had an onslaught, an att iron that, we would have >> if we had an onslaught, an att iron dome,t, we would have >> if we had an onslaught, an att iron dome, bute would have >> if we had an onslaught, an att iron dome, but we ould have >> if we had an onslaught, an att iron dome, but we haven't/e >> if we had an onslaught, an att iron dome, but we haven't ,e an iron dome, but we haven't, though if we haven't, though we would if we haven't, i bet have. don't know. bet you we have. you don't know. >> you don't know. >> you don't know. >> but were under the. >> but if we were under the. sorry. finish. you don't sorry. let me finish. you don't know , right? whether hang know, right? whether you hang on. know what i'm on. you don't know what i'm going to say.
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>> i'll >> for starters, i'll have a guess. can have guess. go on. guess. can have a guess. go on. you if we've an you don't know if we've got an iron dome? no okay. there you go. there you go. go. i'm sorry. there you go. >> that simple. you >> i'm not that simple. no you don't whether don't know, right. whether there's attack or there's going to be an attack or not. and that's the whole point of you also don't not. and that's the whole point of russia(ou also don't not. and that's the whole point of russia .yu also don't not. and that's the whole point of russia . russia don't not. and that's the whole point of russia . russia could decide not. and that's the whole point of attack;sia . russia could decide not. and that's the whole point of attack china.ussia could decide not. and that's the whole point of attack china. any| could decide not. and that's the whole point of attack china. any| cctheseacide to attack china. any of these hostile forces the bottom hostile forces. the bottom line is we're is preparation is king. we're not prepared anything. not for prepared anything. >> danny, may i just come back to you? how do you know we're not prepared? how know not prepared? how do you know that? we're not prepared. and you two are underestimating our military. don't get military. i don't want to get jingoistic hating our military. i'm jingoist. i'm not a jingoist. >> it. >> estimate it. >> estimate it. >> don't want to get >> listen, i don't want to get jingoistic about this, but i think shouldn't think you shouldn't underestimate military. think you shouldn't unci'm;timate military. think you shouldn't unc i'm ;timy underestimating think you shouldn't unci'm;timyunderestimating them. >> i'm not underestimating them. but we're not ready. >> we just haven't got the numbers. >> we just haven't got the nur reality ? >> reality? >> reality? >> of course we do. >> of course we do. >> of course we don't know exactly what's going on in in our defence mechanisms, but we know the reality of the numbers. for example, we know we've only got is it, 80,000 got it. what is it, 80,000 soldiers. haven't an soldiers. we haven't even got an army. definition army. apparently the definition of an army is 100,000. we haven't that. we know haven't even got that. we know the raw facts are not good. but
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as danny says, israel is in a battle in a 24 seven battle for survival constantly. there are people out there who just want to completely obliterate israel. we don't have that threat. but that's not to say that we shouldn't be prepared for that. >> so look at china. china are not in a situation where they are being attacked. 24 seven are they? they have protection. they? yet they have protection. they've set up their army. they've set up their army. they've done everything russia were not in that situation ehhen were not in that situation either. then decided to either. but then they decided to go ukraine. but all go and attack ukraine. but all these countries go and attack ukraine. but all the�*deeply countries go and attack ukraine. but all the�*deeply prepared, ries go and attack ukraine. but all the�*deeply prepared, finland, are deeply prepared, finland, all these countries are prepared. we are not prepared. thatis prepared. we are not prepared. that is my point. you don't even know what to do if there's an alarm sound that says that you need there's a if i need to go. if there's a if i don't know what siren don't even know what the siren sound nana nana. >> launches a nuke >> if russia launches a nuke today, we're today, you're right. we're screwed. has any screwed. no one has given us any warning. the british warning. hopefully the british military , that's military and the cia, that's the american intelligence and m15. they boots on the they would have boots on the ground to tell us. look, you need to prepare. like need to prepare. just like israel at the yanks told israel that iran was to launch that iran was going to launch a load of drones. so there is intelligence. there are
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intelligence. there are intelligence capabilities and nato. >> do you think we can get that ready in two weeks? we would depend danny. >> hopefully nana we would have that information and the government like they government would like they did when a kid the 70s, the when i was a kid in the 70s, the government us in 70s, government told us in the 70s, they look, you they said, look, if you get a nuclear bomb, hide under your kitchen nuclear bomb, hide under your kilcwei nuclear bomb, hide under your kithe were prepared 70s. >> we were prepared in the 70s. we are now. christine. >> agree nana. we >> no, i agree with nana. we are. you no, are. well, you woefully no, i wouldn't we are. well, you woefully no, i wotwoefully we are. well, you woefully no, i wotwoefully ill we are. well, you woefully no, i wotwoefully ill prepared. wee are woefully ill prepared. we have allowed our armed forces to run down people who go into the services that are derided. they used looked up to. we used to be looked up to. we don't treat our veterans don't even treat our veterans properly goodness and properly for goodness sake. and we have allowed situation. we have allowed this situation. we've much more money we've got to put much more money into defence. i think we've got to accept that we're on the verge of world war iii, for heaven's sake. we don't. >> don't say you >> oh, don't say that. do you think are? >> oh, don't say that. do you thiryes, are? >> oh, don't say that. do you thiryes, iare? >> oh, don't say that. do you thiryes, i do,�* >> oh, don't say that. do you thiryes, i do, yes. >> yes, i do, yes. >> incredibly like listen, >> it's incredibly like listen, watching that i do. >> i think the world fold. >> i think the world fold. >> night. it was so depressing. >> very, very volatile place. the world at the moment. >> very, very volatile place. theinorld at the moment. >> very, very volatile place. theinorld israels moment. >> very, very volatile place. theinorld israel wouldznt. >> i wish israel would just, would . so would just not retaliate. so i think it was symbolic from iran. and i would just like israel to
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say, had a bloody say, okay, we've had a bloody nose. them bloody nose. we gave them a bloody nose. we gave them a bloody nose. retaliation . nose. no more retaliation. >> releasing the hostages? >> about how about how about >> how about how about how about iran aren't interested in the hostages? >> how about hamas ? release the >> how about hamas? release the hostages and stop the fight. stop, firing rockets. stop, stop! stop firing rockets. >> but we're not talking about hamas. we're talking about iran. >> are, because is >> no, we are, because this is all about hamas, and all about hamas, isn't it? and let's honest, they're proxies let's be honest, they're proxies for correct. but but for iran. correct. so. but but hamas release the hamas need to release the hostages . hostages. >> those projectiles were launched with hamas or launched not to do with hamas or the hostages. they were launched in retaliation israeli in retaliation for an israeli strike killed two generals strike that killed two generals on who probably on commanders who probably organised things organised a lot of the things through . through hamas. >> so why we played into >> so that's why we played into their i their hands, too. i mean, america billions of america gave them billions of dollars, billions dollars, tehran gave billions of dollars. i know they had to get hostages back. but if you start paying hostages back. but if you start paying for hostages, where does it well, does. it end? well, where does. >> to be >> i'm afraid you have to be tough. ends now, right? this >> i'm afraid you have to be to gb. ends now, right? this >> i'm afraid you have to be to gb newsds now, right? this >> i'm afraid you have to be to gb news. welcome. ht? this >> i'm afraid you have to be to gb news. welcome. it's this >> i'm afraid you have to be to gb news. welcome. it's just is gb news. welcome. it's just coming up to 19 minutes after 4:00. i'm nana akua . we're live 4:00. i'm nana akua. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. coming we'll continue radio. coming up. we'll continue the discussion in world view. we'll from israel
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we'll get the latest from israel and iran as tensions rise. gary morton and james marlow will be live in the studio. we'll also cross live to los angeles get cross live to los angeles to get the view from states. but the view from the states. but next time for the great next it's time for the great british this hour. british debate. this hour. and i'm were right i'm asking, were we right to send to aid ? i've send jets to israel's aid? i've got a poll up right now on asking that question. asking you that very question. were jets to were we right to send jets to israel's in touch as israel's aid, get in touch as well with your views. gbnews.com/yoursay tell me what you think. also, you can go onune you think. also, you can go online @gbnews. cast your vote i'iow. now. >> yes, we were
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i >> -- >> good afternoon. just coming up to 23 minutes after 4:00. i'm nana akua. this is gb news. let's see what you've been saying. danny says killing 1000. 14,000. sorry, kids. is not defending yourself. israel leaders. israeli leaders know that hamas leaders are not even in gaza and meet with them
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regularly in qatar, lebanon and egypt. regularly in qatar, lebanon and egypi- by regularly in qatar, lebanon and egypt. by all means, go after terrorists, but don't bomb innocent people whilst claiming to be victim . oh, they would to be the victim. oh, they would argue that hamas are hiding behind people. so behind their people. so unfortunately it's war, isn't it? hannah says there is no chance the uk would have been able to protect the country the same has done, same way israel has done, especially the current especially with the current defence which will be especially with the current defesame, which will be especially with the current defesame, not which will be especially with the current defesame, not worse, will be especially with the current defesame, not worse, undere the same, if not worse, under laboun the same, if not worse, under labour. also, the uk would be attacked internally well, attacked internally as well, mostly the same people who mostly from the same people who constantly to the uk constantly seem to hate the uk but freedoms and but enjoy the freedoms and benefits security that they benefits of security that they were elsewhere were unable to achieve elsewhere in the world. good point as well. and of course, our own civil who out civil servants who won't go out and fire rockets, let's not and fire the rockets, let's not forget allow that forget they won't allow that ehhen forget they won't allow that either. says, either. remember, andy says, what happened last night in israel occurrence in israel is a daily occurrence in ukraine. russia are ukraine. iran and russia are terrorist be terrorist states and must be treated such . uk the treated as such. the uk and the usa launched to usa both launched aircraft to intercept iranian drones and cruise and israel against cruise and defend israel against attack by iran. why are the uk and usa not doing the same to defend ukraine against attacks by russia ? very good question.
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by russia? very good question. well keep your thoughts coming, but time for the great but it's time now for the great british debate this hour and we continue and i'm continue on the theme. and i'm asking, were we right to send jets israel's aid? rishi jets to israel's aid? rishi sunak confirmed this morning that the jets were used to that the uk jets were used to intercept number iranian intercept a number of iranian drones israel . drones launched at israel. >> as i said, the raf moved additional planes into the region as part of our existing operations to counter daesh in iraq and syria. and i can confirm that a number of iranian attack drones were shot down and we pay tribute to the bravery and the professionalism of our pilots flying into the face of danger to protect civilians . i danger to protect civilians. i chaired a cobra meeting on friday to agree a plan of action. >> well, israeli defence officials said that more than 300 drones and missiles were launched by iran in an unprecedented attack, and it was the first time iran has targeted israel directly from its own soil. now, the israeli minister of defence , yoav galant, said of defence, yoav galant, said that the confrontation with iran is not over yet and rishi sunak has vowed to continue standing
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up for israel's security and the regional stability of the area. so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking were we right to send jets israel's right to send jets to israel's aid ? well, joining me to discuss aid? well, joining me to discuss matthew former party matthew laza former labour party adviser adam brooks, businessman and former and activist ivor caplan, former labour defence minister and lieutenant colonel stewart crawford, commentator crawford, political commentator and former snp member, stuart crawford. can i start with you? were right to send those jets ? >> 7- >> on 7— >> on balance, ? >> on balance, i 7 >> on balance, i think the answer to that is yes , for two answer to that is yes, for two reasons. first of all, the, britain's biggest ally, both politically and militarily, is the usa, the usa's biggest ally in the middle east is israel. >> and it's inevitable that where the us decides to take military action, the uk will usually follow not always, but usually follow not always, but usually follow not always, but usually follow . so i think it usually follow. so i think it was inevitable that we would take sides , although arguably we take sides, although arguably we could have stayed neutral, but also we have to remember, and the prime minister has already made the point that we already have raf typhoon jets in action
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every day in the middle east over syria and iraq . and it may over syria and iraq. and it may be that they compensated for us assets doing the same job, being diverted elsewhere to protect israel. so i think on balance, the answer is yes. and of course, the real, result is that with the terrible, exception of the poor child who has been seriously injured, there were no deaths in israel. yeah. >> i mean, that's all testament to the work of all the to the hard work of all the different nations that got together protect but together to protect it. but either caplan, former labour defence your either caplan, former labour deferon your either caplan, former labour deferon it your either caplan, former labour deferon it, your either caplan, former labour deferon it, well, your either caplan, former labour deferon it, well, i your either caplan, former labour deferon it, well, i was your either caplan, former labour deferon it, well, i was very r view on it, well, i was very pleased to hear what, what we've done. pleased to hear what, what we've done . i think that was done. i think that was absolutely essential that we, we went and did what we had promised we would to israel, and i think when you , when you see, i think when you, when you see, a group of nations like the us, obviously, but also including france, including jordan and including australia and other places, i think that's really,
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really for , good for really for, good for international, defence, matters now, obviously. and i was listening to your debate just beforehand. nana. and, and there was obviously debate about what happens next to the defence budget . that happens next to the defence budget. that is happens next to the defence budget . that is critical because budget. that is critical because these kind of things cost money. and to do that, we're going to have to be able to do it in that way. >> yeah. interesting. yeah. what about you, matthew laza? where do you stand with this? were we right to do this? >> yeah, i think we're absolutely right to do it. last night. and i'm glad that, as you say, that the british say, nana, that the british action, allies and action, along with allies and israel in israel itself has resulted in this just one sad casualty. but obviously have been a obviously it could have been a lot, . think, though, obviously it could have been a lot,shouldn't . think, though, obviously it could have been a lot,shouldn't give hink, though, obviously it could have been a lot,shouldn't give hiiblankyugh, obviously it could have been a lot,shouldn't give hiiblank check, we shouldn't give a blank check, to israel . we should never give to israel. we should never give a blank check to anybody. and therefore it needs to be important responds. important how israel responds. now, sure that now, we want to make sure that israel escalate israel doesn't escalate the situation they do, if situation. and if they do, if the right wing in the netanyahu cabinet push him into doing something stupid, we need to be, you to our
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you know, we need to assess our support on a case by case basis. but generally, be but generally, we should be supportive of israel. and we did the right thing yesterday. >> , let's remember, >> adam brooks, let's remember, we've all seen the videos and the pictures from last night. >> i was up till three, 3 am. watching this. there was 300 missiles and drones collectively sent towards israel. now, if all of those had landed, we could have been seeing in tens of thousands. if not hundreds of thousands. if not hundreds of thousands casualties, thousands. if not hundreds of thousandschildren alties, thousands. if not hundreds of thousandschildren ..ties, thousands. if not hundreds of thousandschildren . so ;, thousands. if not hundreds of thousandschildren . so really, including children. so really, anyone that wanted to avert death, and especially child deaths should be supporting the uk doing their bit to stop that and we played a part in shooting down some of these drones or missiles , and it was the right missiles, and it was the right thing to do. let's remember they are an ally. if someone attacked the uk, expect france if the uk, we'd expect france if they could, if they had jets in their airspace to defend us. so it's no difference here. and i think the right thing was done. >> stuart i'm going to come back to stuart crawford earlier. we were talking about whether this
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country there country is prepared. and there was a discussion . do was a bit of a discussion. do you think if something like you think that if something like that to happening that were to be happening here in do think we need in the uk, do you think we need to prepared for the potential to be prepared for the potential of like happening here? >> well, think it'd be very >> well, i think it'd be very wise . i mean, as far as i'm wise. i mean, as far as i'm aware, there is no defence against ballistic missile attack. on the uk, although there is an argument that some of our t—45 destroyers might have that capability very soon. but there is there is no ground based air defence of the uk. generally speaking , and i based air defence of the uk. generally speaking, and i was i also listened to the debate previously and was interested saying it could never happen here. and of course i think we have to look at what happened, to israel last night. the attack came from all directions and the same could happen to the uk. it's not just going to be cruise missiles and drones launched from russia across europe to attack the uk. if it ever happens, they'll be launched from submarines from the sea,
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from submarines from the sea, from warships in the sea, from all directions. and we're very poorly prepared to defend against that sort of threat. yeah. >> ivor, would you agree with that, that we're poorly prepared? >> well, i don't think there's any doubt we're poorly prepared. i mean, the numbers in in our military since 2010 have dropped since . and it is significantly since. and it is significantly and that means that if we want to have, operations like this, it's okay, because, you know, the raf obviously can take the aeroplanes out, but for everything else, you know, we don't have the army. we had, 14 years ago. and i think that's an important , years ago. and i think that's an important, step that, years ago. and i think that's an important , step that, whoever important, step that, whoever wins the general election, i hope labour, of course, so that they can make sure that we can once again grow the armed forces. yeah. >> well, listen, ivor, thank you so much for talking to us. this ivor kaplan, who's a former labour defence minister, lieutenant colonel stuart crawford, commentator lieutenant colonel stuart cravyformer commentator lieutenant colonel stuart cravyformersnp commentator
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lieutenant colonel stuart cravyformer snp member, ntator lieutenant colonel stuart cravyformer snp member, snp,r lieutenant colonel stuart cravyformer snp member, snp, not and former snp member, snp, not snp. what the m's adam brookes, businessman and activist and also matthew laza former labour party adviser . also matthew laza former labour party adviser. thank you so much for your thoughts. be for your thoughts. it'll be interesting see what the interesting to see what the viewers and listeners think about as well. if you're viewers and listeners think abortuned as well. if you're viewers and listeners think abortuned as welcome ou're viewers and listeners think abortuned as welcome ou'|board. just tuned in, welcome on board. let's been let's see what you've been saying. says . do you saying. gordon says. do you think others would help us if we were at war? yeah, i question whether they would. you know, paula yes , we did the right paula says yes, we did the right thing by sending jets. i hope we send more brown says. we support our allies as expect to our allies as we expect them to support it's all one and support us. it's for all one and one for all. well, keep those thoughts coming. gbnews.com/yoursay i'm nana akua. this is gb news live on tv, online and on digital radio. still to come, we'll continue with the great british debate this hour. and i'm asking, were we right to send jets to israel's aid? you'll hear the thoughts but first, thoughts of my panel. but first, let's get your latest news headunes
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headlines. >> it's 431. good afternoon to you. i'm aaron armstrong. the israeli war cabinet says it will exact a price from iran for its overnight assault, a warning that tehran will face painful sanctions, including in the form of missiles . iran, meanwhile, of missiles. iran, meanwhile, says it will launch a much larger attack if israel retaliates. but president biden's warned his counterpart, benjamin netanyahu, that the us will not take part in retaliatory strikes . it comes retaliatory strikes. it comes after rishi sunak confirmed raf planes did shoot down a number of iranian drones and missiles overnight, in what he has described as a dangerous escalation in tensions with israel. the prime minister is now calling for calm ahead of a meeting with g7 world leaders . meeting with g7 world leaders. more than 120,000 people have crossed the english channel by small boat since 2018. it's after 219 arrivals were recorded by the home office yesterday . by the home office yesterday. the total for this year is now 17% higher than at the same time
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last year. labour's shadow immigration minister, stephen kinnock, has called it another grim milestone and says britain must strengthen its border security . labour says it will security. labour says it will impose strict 24 hour time limits on police when dealing with serious domestic abuse cases. shadow home secretary yvette cooper says she's sick and tired of the government treating violence against women, and girls as inevitable. but the government says labour is soft on crime and doesn't have a plan to tackle it . the family of to tackle it. the family of a man who killed six people in a stabbing spree at a shopping centre in sydney, has described his actions as truly horrific. police believe 40 year old joel cauchi suffered from schizophrenia and used drugs including methamphetamine and psychedelics . his family have psychedelics. his family have released a statement in support of the police officer who shot and killed him, saying she was only doing her job and the duke only doing herjob and the duke of kent is stepping down as colonel of the scots guards
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break. >> if you just joined me. welcome. this is gb news we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua just coming up to 38 minutes after 4:00. and it's time to continue with the time now to continue with the great british debate this hour. and i'm asking, were we right to send jets to israel's aid now? the minister, rishi sunak, the prime minister, rishi sunak, confirmed this morning that the uk intercept uk jets were used to intercept a number of iranian drones launched israel. israeli
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launched at israel. israeli defence officials said more than 300 drones missiles were 300 drones and missiles were launched iran an launched by iran in an unprecedented attack . excuse me. unprecedented attack. excuse me. rishi sunak has vowed to continue standing up for israel's security and working to ensure stability in the region. so if the great british debate this hour, i'm asking, were we right to send jets to israel's aid? well, let's see what my panel make of that. i'm joined now broadcaster now by broadcaster and journalist kelly and also journalist danny kelly and also author broadcaster christine journalist danny kelly and also author right dcaster christine journalist danny kelly and also author right well,er christine journalist danny kelly and also author right well, i'll1ristine journalist danny kelly and also author right well, i'll startle hamilton. right well, i'll start with you, danny kelly. where are we? right. >> yeah. the jets were the >> yeah. the jets were in the region. they're ours. region. they're allies of ours. it's were used to it's not like they were used to fire anything iran. you know, fire anything at iran. you know, they used wipe they were basically used to wipe these out of sky. so these things out of the sky. so i that jets were there i think that the jets were there . so. yeah, good for them to save saved lives. but again, i go back to an earlier point about! go back to an earlier point about i think it was symbolic of iran. i think they knew they were going to be out of were going to be taken out of the the sky. excuse me. i the out of the sky. excuse me. i mean, if you if you're across the ukraine you'll know the ukraine story, you'll know how going to use how relatively i'm going to use the but the word straightforward. but some actually do get through but
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relatively straightforward cruise missiles taken of cruise missiles are taken out of the when you have one of the sky. so when you have one of these drones travel these suicide drones that travel at, it's you they've at, it's got, you know, they've got two, five cc got a one, two, five cc motorbike in them. motorbike engine in them. you know, just damage know, you can just damage they're probably a marksman could take one out. >> no i don't think so. >> no i don't think so. >> it's not that i bet you if you had a machine gun. >> now remember the shrapnel in the sky? are mad? you know the sky? are you mad? you know how up that is, i think how high up that is, i think they're say, 600ft how high up that is, i think th
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were defended. yeah. america has apparently said that they prevented 99% of them, but apparently we also are claiming we prevented some of them. so they can argue the toss . but they can argue the toss. but what the allies what matters is the allies prevented them. >> a defence system, that >> what a defence system, that iron dome. >> it's amazing. >> it's amazing. >> but sad that they >> but it's so sad that they have to have it, isn't it? >> an expert the iron dome. >> em- em— t ayers so you've got dome. >> american ers so you've got dome. >> american layer you've got dome. >> american layer ofyu've got dome. >> american layer of protection the american layer of protection first, got first, then you've got the british. iron was british. then the iron dome was literally layer of literally the final layer of protection to make sure. so there's layer there. there's a triple layer there. what have we got? there's a triple layer there. wh theave we got? there's a triple layer there. wh the phrase got? there's a triple layer there. wh the phrase that always rings >> the phrase that always rings to me about the middle east is, is , golda meir, who said if the is, golda meir, who said if the arabs lay down their arms, there will be no fighting if israel lays down her arms, there will be no israel. and that is what they're up against, and that is what they're having to defend. defend defend. they're not attacking, they're defending. defend defend. they're not attackthinkhey're defending. defend defend. they're not attackthink they; defending. defend defend. they're not attackthink they haveending. defend defend. they're not attackthink they have every. and i think they have every right to defend themselves. after what happened on the 7th of october. and where these of october. and where are these hostages? of october. and where are these hosiranian . they're not arabs, >> iranian. they're not arabs, they're persians, persians, they're persians, persians,
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they're persians, persians, they're persians . they're persians. >> by the way, this show is nothing without you and your views. our great views. let's welcome our great british voices, their opportunity the show opportunity to be on the show and they think and tell us what they think about we're about the topics we're discussing. let's where discussing. let's go. where should discussing. let's go. where shotoi discussing. let's go. where sho to the discussing. let's go. where shoto the home of khalife. >> to the home of khalife. >> to the home of khalife. >> we oh, unless we go to >> we go to. oh, unless we go to the minster. kitty, let's the minster. kitty, kitty, let's speak john speak to a little kitty john reid. he's not little at all. john reid, what you think? john reid, what do you think? were right, nice you, were we right, nice to see you, by but we right ? by the way. but were we right? >> well, that word nana. >> well, that word nana. >> this is the word right? have we got the right? i think i would agree with your panel . we got the right? i think i would agree with your panel. i think we've done the right thing. yes, but what is the value of the word right. you know, because what's going on there , is that this there is, is that all this started with the started off with october the 7th, it . that wasn't 7th, didn't it. that wasn't right in the first place. and now look at the response the now you look at the response the israelis have come up with to it. right . that's way it. that's not right. that's way too for repaying the price too heavy for repaying the price of the attack against them. so when we talk about rights in in this particular argument, i'm not sure where that word comes from or what it actually means, but do we stand by our allies?
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yes, of course we do. do we think we're still a world power? no, not really. we just help people, don't we? >> well, let's hope we can help ourselves shoe's on the ourselves as the shoe's on the other foot. john reid, thank you so really talk to so much. really good to talk to you. reid, our great you. that's john reid, our great british kidderminster. you. that's john reid, our great bri today kidderminster. you. that's john reid, our great britodayi've kidderminster. you. that's john reid, our great bri today i've been derminster. you. that's john reid, our great bri today i've been asking ster. so today i've been asking whether we were right to send jets lots you been jets to israel. lots of you been getting in touch with your views. better views. robert says better to send defend israel and send jets to defend israel and stop attacks there, stop further attacks there, then allow that will allow escalation that will ultimately lead to a wider conflict would expand conflict that would expand globally , gordon says. why, oh globally, gordon says. why, oh why do our noses into why do we stick our noses into everyone else's business? gary says countries need reliable friends. the uk all alone wouldn't even last two minutes, les says. we are not prepared for war overseas. well, listen, you're with me. i'm nana akua this is gb news live on tv, onune this is gb news live on tv, online and on digital radio. coming up in the next hour. my great british debate i'm asking should all british police carry guns? ooh. next though, world view , paul duddridge, gary monde view, paul duddridge, gary monde and james will be live and james marlow will be live telling us what they think with
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next. welcome on board. it's just coming up to 47 minutes after 4:00. it's time for world view. israeli military forces intercepted 99% of the 300 drones and missiles launched by iran near the syria—iraq border last night , iran near the syria—iraq border last night, with israel's minister of defence saying the confrontation with iran is not over yet. prime minister rishi sunak says that raf jets were used to intercept iran's attack and he's now set for urgent talks with g7 leaders as tensions continue to rise. so joining me now for expert analysis is the chairman of the national jewish assembly, gary mond, also foreign affairs and defence analyst james marlow, james marlow i'm going to start with you, israel, saying it's not over yet. they don't think
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it's over yet. yet iran would like it to end that way. that's the end of this. rather than it escalating where do you stand with that? >> well, iran would like it to end episode. it's end for this episode. it's waiting episode and waiting for the next episode and it again. it will start up again. >> but its time. >> but in its own time. >> but in its own time. >> was looking down on my >> i was just looking down on my phone and get update phone to try and get an update on the, security cabinet meeting, which is still taking place at this point, meeting, which is still taking place at this point , to find out place at this point, to find out exactly what their decisions are. >> i understand to the best of my knowledge and the people that i've spoken to, is that the decision is split within the cabinet what to do now cabinet as to what to do now from what i understand, and my sources are me that sources are telling me that president biden , on that 25 president biden, on that 25 minute over minute conversation over the telephone last night, suggested that this is not the right time to go ahead and respond . and you to go ahead and respond. and you have world's support this have the world's support at this point hold point and therefore just hold back. now, netanyahu this back. now, netanyahu at this point thinking about point is actually thinking about this, taking into consideration that jewish festival of that the jewish festival of passoveris that the jewish festival of passover is coming up after next weekend as well. >> so it would disrupt a whole load of things, because that
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goes for seven days. goes on for seven days. >> it could be that this >> but it could be that at this point israel just going point that israel is just going to assess the to bide its time, assess the situation when it wants to look at gaza. >> and of course, all this is connected with iran, gaza, yemen, iraq, syria , lebanon, the yemen, iraq, syria, lebanon, the missiles coming in. >> and of course, we still have 133 hostages. i say we well , 133 hostages. i say we well, from the world's point of view, because the world has condemned this 133 hostages inside of gaza . and israel believes that they're in rafah. and the time is coming to actually make some type of a incursion into rafah to look for those that may be there, whether they're alive or dead. gary mond i largely agree with what james has said. however, we actually have to think that there's a great deal of euphoria about what happened last night. >> it was fantastic to see such support israel, from support for israel, from britain, and from france. >> yet this morning those nuclear facilities in iran are still there. >> they're still moving towards trying to get nuclear weapons. and i'm sure of only one thing.
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>> if iran ever does get nuclear weapons, it would use them. >> and therefore at some point, action has to be taken to destroy those nuclear facilities and everything associated with them. >> but we've done we've tried this before, though, haven't we tried to destroy people's facility for nuclear weapons, andifs facility for nuclear weapons, and it's gone wrong. i mean, remember gaddafi? well it's also gone, right? >> right in 1981 when >> it went right in 1981 when menachem begin destroyed saddam hussein's facilities . hussein's nuclear facilities. heaven knows what the world would if saddam would look like today if saddam hussein in 1981 had acquired nuclear also nuclear weapons. so it can also go right, and it will go right. i think the israelis have planned for many, many planned this for many, many years, some point years, and at some point they need execute it . i get the need to execute it. i get the feeling that the american president, the american cabinet and a number of other prominent people trying stop israel people are trying to stop israel from proceeding with such a matter . m atter. >> matter. >> you know, the comments from why would you get that impression? they stop trying to stop against or stop itself against iran, or to stop them from getting nuclear weapons. do you think that that's american that's what the american i'm looking biden looking at, what joe biden said today, biden joe biden today, beau biden joe biden saying netanyahu , as
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saying today to netanyahu, as reported in the press, you've got to win. >> your win . no, they >> take your win. no, they haven't a win. they've haven't got a win. they've managed avoid defeat, but managed to avoid defeat, but they need to press ahead and destroy iran's nuclear facilities. >> well, so right there, i'm going to go over now across the pond to speak to paul duddridge, host of the politics people podcast, thoughts with what the thoughts are with the americans on that, because we just joe is just heard that joe biden is saying that should take the saying that they should take the win. view win. paul, what's your view there in the states and how is there in the states and how is the whole thing being received there , listen, think you're there, listen, i think you're covering beautifully . covering it beautifully. >> the biden administration now is , trapped, if you like. they is, trapped, if you like. they they have now had to state their ironclad support for israel . ironclad support for israel. >> and there are many commentators beginning to point out that actually, we might see this attack in isolation , but this attack in isolation, but actually, iran would say that this is a retaliation for the attack on the embassy in syria the other day, this has forced the other day, this has forced the biden administration in, in remember, just last week, biden
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was wavering on support of israel. that's how it was being reported. there was potential for maybe a bit of a loss of support from the united states . support from the united states. now he's had to reiterate ironclad support . so i do now he's had to reiterate ironclad support. so i do think that that means that he has some kind of, he can put some kind of pressure on israel . biden is pressure on israel. biden is losing support from the left of his own party because now he has to redouble his, his support of israel. >> and that is not the direction that on a political level, that he wanted to go strategically. absolutely right. >> but politically, it doesn't do him any good. but i don't think let's be honest, he doesn't know what he's talking about, as he he doesn't even know is. know what day it is. >> truthful here. i'm >> let's be truthful here. i'm going back panel, going to come back to my panel, my studio because, you my in the studio because, you know, the impression, know, we get the impression, i get the impression joe biden doesn't what it doesn't know what day it is. he's not make these he's not fit to make these decisions as surely not. decisions as he's surely not. >> i may just pick >> well, if i may just pick up on was said over on what was just said over there, irgc recognised as there, the irgc is recognised as a group in most
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a terrorist group in most western that western countries, and that stands just so people are stands forjust so people are aware. revolutionary aware. the iranian revolutionary guard corps, for some reason, it's not registered in this country. although home secretary's previous home secretaries have tried , they say secretaries have tried, they say very, very hard to get on the list of pride or proscribed organisations. for some reason it's it an america it's not, but it is an america and it is in the gulf countries as well. so as i understand it that this hits on october, sorry, not october, april, april fool's day, april the 1st, exactly this hit on it didn't actually happen in the iranian consulate. it happened in a building next to it. and i say that because i was actually given a picture of the building afterwards. >> i heard that i did hear that. gary monde, what's your thought on going back to your question about joe biden? >> it's not joe biden who's making the decisions, not the people making the decisions, not the peo it e making the decisions, not the peo it may be barack obama. >> it may even be barack obama. and certainly some prominent democrats essentially democrats are essentially telling him what to do. >> i you're right about >> i think you're right about joe i'm not sure he's fit joe biden. i'm not sure he's fit to be president. >> he's fit purpose at
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all. >> paul duddridge, whether he's going be the candidate for going to be the candidate for the november, i the democrats in november, i don't the democrats in november, i dorwell, word paul >> well, final word to paul duddndge >> well, final word to paul duddridge because duddridge on that one, because we're talking about joe biden. paul we're talking about joe biden. paul, he's going paul, we don't think he's going to candidate for the to be the candidate for the democrats. you've suggested it might being michelle might end up being michelle obama. might end up being michelle obiyes. listen, every time i use >> yes. listen, every time i use the word joe biden, i'm doing joe biden, okay? it's not he's just the front man. >> he's the he's the storefront dummy. no, it's the biden administration is certainly not being run by joe biden. >> yes. >> yes. >> i don't think he's going to be the candidate, come november, i've , people are now i've said august, people are now saying late june, he might make it to . but, yeah, we will be it to. but, yeah, we will be seeing him replaced. but this has forced his hand. this is out of his control now, frankly. and, forces are moving behind him that he has no never had any control over. >> he never had any control over anything, not even himself. paul duddridge, thank you so much for talking to paul duddridge, talking to me. paul duddridge, host politics people host of the politics people podcast . so back to you then. podcast. so back to you then. what do think is the next what do you think is the next move i'm going move for israel? i'm going to start gary moore.
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start with you, gary moore. next move for israel. >> the cabinet meeting >> well, the cabinet meeting is going at moment, what going on at the moment, what i fear next move for israel fear is the next move for israel is very much. is not very much. >> think that, benjamin >> i think that, benjamin netanyahu been saying netanyahu has been saying for a long time going to go long time they're going to go into they do . and into rafah. i hope they do. and i that they have to deal i think that they have to deal with nuclear program with the iranian nuclear program , if don't, it will be , and if they don't, it will be very news for israel in the very bad news for israel in the medium to long run, but certainly action needs to be taken. >> jim mcmahon final 20s to you , >> jim mcmahon final 20s to you, well, what i would say is that israel is almost back to normal today. israel is almost back to normal today . scores closed. score today. scores are closed. score is day on a is a working business day on a sunday goes from sunday to thursday, however , asked people thursday, however, asked people are asked to stay close to their shelters, but nevertheless go on with what it is that you're doing. there is a ban on crowds more than a thousand people, for example, something more than a thousand people, for exarthat. something more than a thousand people, for exarthat. the something more than a thousand people, for exarthat. the football something more than a thousand people, for exarthat. the football matches ng like that. the football matches are today, are going ahead later today, although crowds . although not with large crowds. and as i said, i think the airports opened and people airports have opened and people are flying in and out well. >> so israel is still open for business. they're carrying on with everything. thank you so much marlo and gary with everything. thank you so much you're marlo and gary with everything. thank you so much you're with marlo and gary with everything. thank you so much you're with me.arlo and gary with everything. thank you so much you're with me. i'm and gary with everything. thank you so
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much you're with me. i'm nana ary mond. you're with me. i'm nana akua. news. still to akua. this is gb news. still to come. joined by one of come. i'll be joined by one of showbiz's captivating showbiz's most captivating leading ladies with roles alongside peter leading ladies with roles alongsi and peter leading ladies with roles alongsi and kirk peter leading ladies with roles alongsi and kirk douglas, er leading ladies with roles alongsi and kirk douglas, and sellers and kirk douglas, and appearances like appearances in tv shows like coronation and mind your coronation street and mind your language. she language. who do you think she is ? is? >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> good afternoon. welcome to your latest gb news weather from the met office. so higher pressure out towards the south does bring us some more settled conditions for a time this afternoon, but low pressure situated the north situated out towards the north of the uk, slowly moves its way towards us through the rest of the weekend and into the start of new week in south. of the new week in the south. though will on to though we will be holding on to those conditions for a time though we will be holding on to thosafternoon.itions for a time though we will be holding on to thosafternoon. perhaps a time though we will be holding on to thosafternoon. perhaps a bit1e though we will be holding on to thosafternoon. perhaps a bit of this afternoon. perhaps a bit of late sunshine around, late hazy sunshine around, but it's northwest that we it's in the northwest that we see those strongest winds and some showers pushing some blustery showers pushing their way south and eastwards through of through the early hours of monday morning . the showers monday morning. the showers always heaviest across northern monday morning. the showers alwewestern est across northern monday morning. the showers alwewestern parts, �*oss northern monday morning. the showers alwewestern parts, and northern monday morning. the showers alwewestern parts, and we hern monday morning. the showers alwewestern parts, and we could
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and western parts, and we could even see some across the even see some snow across the hills. will lead to hills. and that will lead to quite night with quite a chilly night with temperatures single temperatures in the low single figures even further temperatures in the low single figure not even further temperatures in the low single figure not reaching'en further temperatures in the low single figure not reaching muchther temperatures in the low single figure not reaching much above 7 south not reaching much above 7 or 8 degrees. so chilly but or 8 degrees. so a chilly but blustery start to the day on monday. the heaviest bands of showers way south showers clear their way south and through monday and eastwards through monday morning, leaving some sunny spells as we head into the afternoon. there will still be plenty of showers around though, and again could turn to and again these could turn to snow pennines , lake snow across the pennines, lake district high district and across the high ground with ground of scotland, and with a brisk northwesterly breeze it will feeling chilly. will be feeling very chilly. highs the south not reaching highs in the south not reaching much above 12 or 13 degrees. tuesday does start a little bit dner tuesday does start a little bit drier for most of us. there will still be a few showers around across northern ireland, wales and northern scotland, and northern parts of scotland, but the sunshine but the best of the sunshine across northern of across central northern parts of england mainland england and much of mainland scotland as few showers scotland as well. a few showers around wednesday, but around still on wednesday, but there are hints of higher pressure returning later in the week bit week and something a little bit milder . milder on the way. >> looks like things are heating up boxt boilers as sponsors of weather on gb news.
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hello. good afternoon. it's 5:00. this is gb news on tv, onune 5:00. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua. and for the next houn nana akua. and for the next hour, me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headlines right now . hitting the headlines right now. coming outside guest, coming up, my outside guest, she's . she was named she's a mystery. she was named england's brigitte bardot after starring alongside peter sellers and goldie hawn. any guesses ? and goldie hawn. any guesses? come on then, for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking should all british police carry guns? what do you think ? carry guns? what do you think? now? i've got a very exciting guest coming up for my supplement. sunday, i'll be joined by a pensioner who was wrongly accused of hate crimes, thanks to scotland's hate thanks to scotland's new hate
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crime law. but first, let's get your latest news with ray addison. >> very good, very good evening. i should say it's 5:00. i'm aaron armstrong, the israeli war cabinet says it will exact a price from iran. in response to last night's attack. when the time is right. it's not clear how israel will respond, but its war cabinet says painful, painful sanctions will follow, which could include missiles. iran, meanwhile, says it has now achieved its objective but has vowed to launch a much bigger attack if israel does retaliate. rishi sunak confirmed raf planes did shoot down a number of 300 iranian drones and missiles that were launched overnight. he says had it been successful , the had it been successful, the fallout for regional stability would be hard to overstate . the would be hard to overstate. the prime minister is now calling for calm as he prepares to meet with g7 world leaders to discuss the crisis . the crisis. >> this was a dangerous and
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unnecessary escalation, which i've condemned in the strongest terms thanks to an international coordinated effort which the united kingdom participated in. almost all of these missiles were intercepted , saving lives were intercepted, saving lives not just in israel but in neighbouring countries like jordan as well. the raf sent additional planes to the region as part of our existing operations to counter daesh in iraq and syria. i can confirm that our planes did shoot down a number of iranian attack drones. i don't want to pay tribute to the bravery and professionalism of our pilots flying into the face danger . face of danger. >> a group of british iranians have responded to the attack with demonstration outside the with a demonstration outside the iranian in london to with a demonstration outside the iraniasolidarity in london to with a demonstration outside the irania solidarity with.ondon to with a demonstration outside the irania solidarity with israel. to show solidarity with israel. >> we, the british iranian diaspora, have gathered here today in protest to let the world know that the war of the mullahs, which has started for really in reality , 45 years. but really in reality, 45 years. but last night they launched over 300 missiles at israel. is not
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the war of the people of iran. and we are urging the public, the media and the rest of the world to recognise that this is the war of the mullahs and not the war of the mullahs and not the war of the mullahs and not the war of the people of iran . the war of the people of iran. >> more than 120,000 people have crossed the english channel by small boats since 2018, 219 arrivals were recorded by the home office yesterday . the total home office yesterday. the total for this year is now 17% higher than the same period last year. labour's shadow immigration minister, stephen kinnock, has called it another grim milestone. he says britain must strengthen its border security . strengthen its border security. meanwhile, a cabinet minister has insisted the government's rwanda plan is on track with flights due to take off within weeks. health secretary victoria atkins says the home office is ready to go despite the troubled bill still making its way through parliament. no airline has been named to transport asylum seekers after rwanda state owned carrier turned down a request. the prime minister has repeatedly said the flights would take off by spring,
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although no date has been set. labour says it will impose strict 24 hour time limits on police when dealing with serious domestic abuse cases. the initiative has been dubbed raneem's law after the 22 year old raneem oudeh, who was killed by her former partner just 11 days after obtaining an order against him. shadow home secretary yvette cooper says she's sick and tired of the government treating violence against women and girls as inevitable instead of as an emergency. the government emergency. but the government says labour is soft on crime and doesn't have a plan to tackle it. the attacker, who it. the knife attacker, who killed six people at a shopping centre in sydney, advertised himself online as a male escort and tried to join groups of gun owners . joel cauchi had been owners. joel cauchi had been known to police, particularly over last five years, but over the last five years, but hadnt over the last five years, but hadn't been arrested or charged before yesterday's attack. police believed the 40 year old suffered from schizophrenia and used drugs, including methamphetamine and psychedelics . his families released a statement in support of the
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police officer who shot and killed him, saying she was only doing her job. a new poll doing herjob. a new poll suggests. humza yousafs popularity among snp voters has fallen sharply. a survey of more than 1000 people in scotland found the first minister's score fell to minus 7. amongst those who voted for the scottish national party in 2019, his approval with the general public has also dropped to levels similar to his conservative rivals. it follows the introduction of a new hate crime law, which has prompted more than 7000 complains in its first week. for the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts, the qr code on your screen or you can go to gb news. com slash alerts. now it's back to . nana. to. nana. >> good afternoon. this is gb news on tv online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua for the next hour. me and my panel will
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be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headlines right now. this show is all about it's mine. it's about opinion. it's mine. it's theirs. it's theirs. and of course it's yours. debating, yours. we'll be debating, discussing times we will discussing and at times we will disagree, no one will be disagree, but no one will be cancelled. so joining me today is broadcaster and journalist danny also author and danny kelly. also author and broadcaster christine hamilton. still each sunday at still to come each sunday at five, i'm joined by a celebrity, a former mp or someone who has had an extremely interesting career look at. life career to take a look at. life after the job. we talk highs, lows lessons and what lows and lessons learnt and what comes the outside . and comes next on the outside. and today joined by a major star today i'm joined by a major star of the 70s who has graced our screens in mind. your language and coronation street. she's known as england's bridget bardot and even rejected a job offer from kirk douglas . wow. offer from kirk douglas. wow. any guesses, then, for the great british debate this hour? i'm asking, should all british police carry guns? the sun have reported 18,000 officers were hired without a single in—person interview. forces continued hiring remotely even after covid restrictions were lifted. but
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how are we meant to trust our officers with weapons when they're not even recruited face to face? then for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking, should british police carry guns ? can in touch carry guns? you can get in touch as gbnews.com/yoursay . so as ever. gbnews.com/yoursay. so rishi sunak has confirmed uk jets were used to intercept a number of iranian drones. the prime minister's calling for calm ahead of talks later with other world leaders about de—escalating the situation. israeli defence officials said more than 300 drones and missiles were launched by iran in an unprecedented attack. it's the first time iran has targeted israel directly and from its own soil. so there's been a lot of aggression. iran are threatening aggression. iran are threatening a much harder attack if israel retaliates. joining now, retaliates. joining me now, israeli spokesperson israeli government spokesperson david mensah. david, thank you so for talking to me this so much for talking to me this afternoon. so what are your thoughts on everything? because
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israel phenomenal israel did a phenomenal job alongside its allies in protecting its people. but now what's next? >> well, firstly, thank you, nana, for having me join you. >> look , last night we had 180 >> look, last night we had 180 suicide drones, 120 ballistic missiles, 30 cruise missiles, and together with our allies, the us and the uk , thanks to the us and the uk, thanks to prime minister rishi sunak. just confirming , before i came prime minister rishi sunak. just confirming, before i came on. yes, we managed to miraculously repel that terrorist force because , you know, the tyrants because, you know, the tyrants of tehran, for us, it's not a surprise that they're attacking us because tyrants of tehran are behind. were behind the october 7th massacre of my of my people. but we're ready . we're ready to but we're ready. we're ready to face them. you know, iran is the axis behind all the terror in our region, hezbollah, our region, hamas, hezbollah, houthis, we face them down last night and we're ready for whatever they throw at us
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defensively and offensively as well . well. >> are israel right to retaliate after this, though, because you've had success in that? no one was hurt apart from that poor seven year old, but nobody else. so we thank god that it wasn't worse. but is it right for israel to retaliate after this? or would it be wise to perhaps step back and maybe just focus on gaza and getting your hostages back ? hostages back? >> well, look, let's take that apart piece by piece. >> you know , this was a seven >> you know, this was a seven year old muslim israeli bedouin girl who's fighting for her life in hospital. she didn't deserve to be targeted by iran. and yes, it is true. we are focused on our mission to destroy hamas, to bnng our mission to destroy hamas, to bring home all 133 hostages and of course, to ensure that gaza doesn't ever become a threat to us again. but i simply ask you, nana and all your listeners and all your your viewers, the simple question, what would you do? what would britain do if 300
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and missiles came your and deadly missiles came your way? would you simply, you know, maybe the talk shows here in israel would say, well, i think britain should just, just, you know, calm, relax and, you know, turn the other cheek. that's not the way things work here. iran is enemy. they have been for is our enemy. they have been for many, many years. imagine many, many years. just imagine what would have happened if they had weapons. damage had nuclear weapons. the damage would so much worse. would have been so much worse. which is why we will do everything. and i mean everything. and i mean everything in our power to stop them becoming a nuclear weapons power. >> well, they would argue that they were responding after the april the 1st attack on some of their commanders at their embassy in syria . so they claim embassy in syria. so they claim that that's their response. so if you then i mean, that's what they're saying. obviously, they're saying. obviously, they're acting through proxies , they're acting through proxies, hamas, houthis and that lot. hamas, houthis and all that lot. but respond after but if you then respond after this, then it sounds like they would having an even would legitimise having an even more ferocious response . more ferocious response. >> look, nana, the tyrants of
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tehran orchestrated the october 7th massacre of my people. but now the mask is off. britain knows it, france knows it. the us has always known it. and we're ready to face every single eventuality. they are forces against progress in their region. the reason that they're fighting us is because we know we are making progress. before october 7th, we were making real progress in peacemaking in this region, and that was a threat to them. you you saw just before i came on again, some of, iran's people, not the iranian regime. we've got no , quarrel whatsoever we've got no, quarrel whatsoever with iran's peace loving people . with iran's peace loving people. it's their regime which must be stood up to thereafter . us. stood up to thereafter. us. they're our enemy. but you can be damn sure. nana. they're your enemy as well. which means we're on the front line of this civilisation , this attack on civilisation, this attack on civilisation. and we will be successful because we must be successful. >> david, thank you so much for talking to me. that's david
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mensore. he's an israeli spokesperson. really good to talk you. thank you very talk to you. thank you very much. >> @- t thank you . >> thank you. thank you. >> thank you. thank you. >> last few minutes, >> so in the last few minutes, the foreign secretary the shadow foreign secretary has spoken. >> israel facing a barrage of attack drones overnight , not attack drones overnight, not just israel, but jordan was extremely serious and completely unacceptable. i'm pleased that our armed forces were able to play our armed forces were able to play their part , part in play their part, part in reducing the risk to life that was considerable last night, and i applaud their bravery and their courage. >> that was, of course , labour's >> that was, of course, labour's shadow foreign secretary, david lammy. if you're just tuned in, welcome on board. it's just coming up to 13 minutes after 5:00 and it's sunday around about this time, i'm joined by a celebrity, a former mp or someone who's extremely someone who's had an extremely interesting take look interesting career. take a look at job. we talk at life after the job. we talk highs, and lessons learnt highs, lows and lessons learnt and on and what comes next on the outside and this week my guest is known as england's brigitte bardot . she puts the she put
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bardot. she puts the she put mauritius on the map during the swinging 60s and her career blew up in england. her big break was starring alongside english comedy icon peter sellers and the one and only goldie hawn. i love goldie hawn throughout her colourful career, she's been told the language as she told to mind the language as she brought laughs to 18 million viewers across country. when viewers across the country. when she's not seen on our screens, she's not seen on our screens, she's kept busy with humanitarian work and is now taking to the stage with her latest project. my wife fell in love with a life sized cardboard cut out of ronan keating. did you work out who she is? i'm joined by model and actress francoise pascal . hello, francoise pascal. hello, francois, thank you so much for joining me. it's really to good talk to you. so, francoise, talk me through your your career. how did you get into acting? what were your first things? >> i was actually 16 years old when i. when i got into acting, i a film for i was, i did a film for a producer called basu sen, and it wasn't the kind of film that my mother actually approved. >> that's for sure. and, and i
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went on like this, and he just took off, and i had no idea what was happening to me . and my was happening to me. and my mother had to sign a lot of, you know , contracts and say, okay, know, contracts and say, okay, she can do. but nobody told her that. i would be either half nude or nude or whatever. it was terrible. it was just terrible. >> so you became known as the british brigitte bardot? >> yes . >> yes. >> yes. >> it's quite a compliment. >> it's quite a compliment. >> it's quite a compliment. >> it is a it is >> it's quite a compliment. >>itisaitisa >> it's quite a compliment. >> it is a it is a compliment. it is a compliment. and it's been it's been a sort of like a roller coaster, really, of a career , i've got to say, you career, i've got to say, you know, i mean, i've met the most unbelievable people, worked with the most unbelievable people. >> peter sellers, sir peter, is he like twice? >> twice with him twice . wow. >> what's he like? >> what's he like? >> oh, wonderful. he was a bit insecure , but hey, listen, you insecure, but hey, listen, you know, big actor , ego and know, big actor, ego and comedian . then you've got to comedian. then you've got to have a, you know, you've got to be insecure. you can't be secure. >> it's funny because when you
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see them, you're deluded into thinking that they are secure. what oh, i what about goldie hawn? oh, i love hawn. i love her too. >> she was a wonderful, lovely lady. and whenever she saw me in los angeles when i lived in los angeles for seven years, and whenever she would whenever she saw me, she would go, cars. and i'd go, go, francois cars. and i'd go, oh my god, who's that? and goldie always shouting my name. >> what was it then , living >> what was it like then, living in los angeles and being part of this? it must have been, wow . this? it must have been, wow. pinch yourself. there. pinch yourself. you're there. >> i it was a very, very different kind of life . very different kind of life. very different kind of life. very different kind of life. very different kind of life in london, you know, going from london, you know, going from london to los angeles and, it was pretty, pretty severe, way of, you know, transition, now , of, you know, transition, now, you also you've been on storage hoarders as well on itv one. yes. you were back on there. now, i used to love watching that. oh, talk to me about your your part in it. >> my, my part was actually getting rid of my partner died. yeah. and i left,
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getting rid of my partner died. yeah. and i left , hertfordshire, yeah. and i left, hertfordshire, it was, hampshire . yeah. and i left, hertfordshire, it was, hampshire. i yeah. and i left, hertfordshire, it was, hampshire . i left it was, hampshire. i left hampshire and i had loads of incredible things, you know, and i go, i can't take it. i can't take all this. i'm in a one bedroom flat in london and all this has got to go. so this is why i took all my things in storage, especially the ones that reminded me of him, a lot of him. so i took the not the most important things, but the things that i really needed to get rid of. yeah, which i did. >> oh, so sad though . can you >> oh, so sad though. can you say how he died? >> how did he pass? he died of a massive heart attack. oh, no. yeah, his sleep. yeah, in his sleep. >> really isn't it ? >> that's really sad, isn't it? that's awful. and course you that's awful. and of course you had deal with all of had to then deal with all of that. do you have children? >> child from >> i have one child from somebody else . well, from an somebody else. well, from an actor called richard johnson . actor called richard johnson. and i have one child from him. nicholas. yeah, yeah . and i have nicholas. yeah, yeah. and i have two grandchildren, two grandchildren two grandchildren, two gra it's1ildren two grandchildren, two gra it's great, isn't it? >> it's great, isn't it? >> it's great, isn't it? >> life's a interesting 74 >> life's a very interesting 74 years >> life's a very interesting 74 yeaso you look, i going to >> so you look, i was going to say incredible for say you do look incredible for 74 what is your
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74 years old. what is your secret? >> e whatsoever. >> it's no secret whatsoever. it's she. she gave me it's my mother. she. she gave me that kind of skin. she. you know, i mean, know how it all know, i mean, i know how it all happened because she. i don't know if your mother did that, but my mother used to give us cod oil every morning. she cod liver oil every morning. she used just put that her used to just put that in her mouth. yes swallow it. if we didn't want to swallow it, she'd go like , god, it's so horrible. go like, god, it's so horrible. >> i know it is actually very good.i >> i know it is actually very good. i might have to get some of that. is the skin? >> yes, for the skin. it's very, very. >> yeah, for the skin, actually. now things. now you've done loads of things. what say in your what would you say in your career was the most, you know, the thing that career was the most, you know, the did thing that career was the most, you know, the did or thing that career was the most, you know, the did or the thing that career was the most, you know, the did or the thing thing that career was the most, you know, the did or the thing that|g that you did or the thing that gave you did or the thing that gave you with the you the left you with the biggest impact? >> a french film >> oh, a film, a french film called rose fer, which is called la rose defer, which is in english, is the iron rose. and it was my film , i was and it was my film, i was starring in it and it was mine. and, and i had one other guy who actually worked with me, and, and it was just the i took over the film, and i'm so proud of it because it was the she i studied
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people who were mentally ill and she became mentally ill. >> that's what the film was about. she actually they were in about. she actually they were in a cemetery and they locked a cemetery and they got locked up cemetery. of up in the cemetery. and of course, the cemetery in france are enormous, as you know , you are enormous, as you ki'iow, you can are enormous, as you know, you can build about 70,000 houses on in them. and it's just, it's to have got lost in there and lost in, in, you know, with the dead and all that. and she got herself lost with the dead. >> i see she were there others , >> i see she were there others, was there anybody else there or was there anybody else there or was it just her? no. just her. >> her and the boyfriend. she kills boyfriend yeah. kills the boyfriend also. yeah. well, she's on her own. kills her because she was. she was actually , you know, with the actually, you know, with the dead. people. enough. dead. the dead people. enough. the people around. the dead people around. >> so she wanted him to be one of them well. of them as well. >> exactly. >> exactly. >> woman. that sounds >> odd woman. that sounds fascinating, that fascinating, though. what's that film ? film called? >> that iron rose. oh, >> that was the iron rose. oh, wow. it was about very, very wow. and it was about very, very well known director called jean
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rollin . he was a cult director. rollin. he was a cult director. he was. >> did you want to get into acting? because i often ask whether your reality actually, it was greater than your dreams because you may have dreamt. what did you dream of becoming and never dreamt about anything else, but. >> did you? i saw a film >> oh, did you? i saw a film with romy schneider. do you know . do you remember? do you know romy schneider? i saw a film with her about elisabeth of austria. i dreamt of being austria. and i dreamt of being elisabeth of austria. i dreamt every single scene that i saw in that film . absolutely dreamt that film. absolutely dreamt every one of them. and i loved it. >> yeah. and here you are now you're doing. you lived your. you're living your dream. what are you doing now, though? because moment, know because at the moment, i know you've your your thing you've got your your your thing that you're doing. >> yeah. well i'm doing this play, is very play, which is very controversial, incredibly controversial. it's very controversial. and it's very politically it's a transgender time. i can never say the word transgender , play the my transgender, play the my granddaughter who plays well,
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the girl who plays my grand great granddaughter actually is a transgender . oh, to help me, a transgender. oh, to help me, please say trans. >> you'll be trans. >> you'll be trans. >> thank you. a transgender person . i'm a little nervous. person. i'm a little nervous. >> so you could say trans trans . >> so you could say trans trans. >> so you could say trans trans. >> yes. so. and she, you know, andifs >> yes. so. and she, you know, and it's that and it's also, and it is a play about awoke oh i mean the woke society disease. you know, this is what we are about today is the woke society disease. and i'd like to bring that out and saying, really, we do not want you around. we do not want. >> you mean the woke society? >> you mean the woke society? >> the woke society? we do not want that. you know. i mean, let us leave our life the way we were living all the time. why do were living all the time. why do we have to change just because we have to change just because we want to? to please other people ? we don't want to please people? we don't want to please other people. i mean, we want to
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actually please ourselves. >> oh, this sounds a great player. . player. it is. >> it is quite funny. >> it is quite funny. >> and where can people go and see it? right >> and it is called my wife fell in love the da da da in love with the book da da da da with a cardboard copy of ronan keating . and the play is ronan keating. and the play is actually the box office is open at in on may the 1st and this is i love this cardboard copy cut out. it's a cut out copy. >> the cardboard cut out. >> the cardboard cut out. >> cut out of ronan keating. yes. if you're listening on radio. yes, exactly. and the ticket office is open on may the 1st. right. and you can actually have it online, which is ww ct dot net. right. >> well listen, i think it sounds fantastic . so remind me sounds fantastic. so remind me of the title again. my wife fell in love with the fell in love with the cut out copy of garuda and keating. >> well, let's hope says >> well, let's hope he says something because something about it because it would tweets it would be great if he tweets it or you should.
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>> you should let him know he might show up. >> it. i hope he's >> i would love it. i hope he's watching this. >> emma watching this. >> be. listen >> well, he might be. listen ronan, you're watching, ronan, if you're watching, you know a great know she's doing a great somebody fell in love with you. the cardboard cut out of you. you'll hopefully you'll retweet that. >> and it also makes dinner for you, too. >> w- em- e he. oh, i love a man >> oh. does he. oh, i love a man that cook to my heart. >> no no no no, it's the woman. oh. the woman. yeah. >> no. ronan well, listen, francoise, much for francoise, thank you so much for joining to you. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> to talk to you >> lovely to talk to you too. >> lovely to talk to you too. >> all best your play. >> all the best with your play. thank much. thank you so much. >> fascinating. >> sounds fascinating. i'm enjoying going to go and watch >> and i'm going to go and watch your movie well. other >> and i'm going to go and watch yourasovie well. other >> and i'm going to go and watch youras well, well. other >> and i'm going to go and watch youras well, the all. other >> and i'm going to go and watch youras well, the one other >> and i'm going to go and watch youras well, the one about1er one as well, the one about the dead thought was dead people. i thought that was quite that quite impressive. that of course, francoise pascal. wow course, is francoise pascal. wow well, listen, if you've just tuned in, welcome on board. that was my mystery outside. guess. did you guess it was her? 22 minutes after five. coming up, i've special supplement i've got a special supplement sunday. joining me. pensioner, a pensioner arrested after pensioner who was arrested after she was wrongly accused of a hate in scotland. but hate crime in scotland. but next, it's time for the great british debate this hour. and i'm asking, all british
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gb news. good afternoon. 26 minutes after five. this is gb news. i'm nana akua. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. and don't forget, you can also stream the show live on youtube as well. it's time now for the great british. debate this out. and i'm all british i'm asking, should all british police in australia? i'm asking, should all british pol police in australia? i'm asking, should all british pol police officersin australia? i'm asking, should all british pol police officers carry;tralia? i'm asking, should all british pol police officers carry them? all police officers carry them and the australian officer who shot stabbing suspect in shot the stabbing suspect in sydney has been hailed a hero. but in the uk, most police do not routinely carry firearms. some might say that that's for the best. after the sun reported that 18,000 officers were hired without a single in—person interview , forces continued interview, forces continued hiring new recruits via zoom even after covid restrictions were lifted. how on earth can the public trust officers whose with weapons, if they're not even recruited at face to face?
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so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking, so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking , should this hour, i'm asking, should all police carry guns when i'm joined now by author and broadcaster rebecca reid , former broadcaster rebecca reid, former met detective mike neville, author and commentator nichi hodgson also former met police officer chris hobbs . well, i'm officer chris hobbs. well, i'm going to start with you, chris hobbs. watts, what are your thoughts? and, you know, because you've been police force. you've been in the police force. so where do you what do you think about this? >> well, actual many years ago, i an authorised shot for the i was an authorised shot for the met. it wasn't as high standards as you have to have now to get in. but i was one. and then there an incident in the there was an incident in the west end where a misidentification of a suspect resulted in being shot a number of times by two officers. >> oh, god. >> oh, god. >> did they kill him? >> did they kill him? >> they didn't kill him, but it was a huge scandal at the time. >> i won't mention his name, but it massive. the two it was. it was massive. the two officers put on trial . they officers were put on trial. they were acquitted months later, a
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months after that, i saw one of the officers in a police canteen . i barely recognised him. he'd aged about 20 years because of the stress of that particular incident and what followed after that. i said, i don't fancy this and i basically didn't renew my authorisation . i didn't go for authorisation. i didn't go for what they called a reclassification. i did not want the stress and the strain. so from that point of view , i can from that point of view, i can see why a number of officers would be very reluctant to take up firearms. and the problem we've got is that some, if they were forced to , every officer were forced to, every officer had to carry a gun would leave the police . we'd suffer as well the police. we'd suffer as well with recruitment of officers. and at the moment, of course, the met an all forces are struggling to recruit and retain officers . so there are huge officers. so there are huge issues. you can't just simply say everyone's going to be armed. and of course we probably would get more incidents. having said that, when there is an
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incident like we saw in sydney or in paris, or that we saw in london, or reading, you really need armed officers exactly as soon as possible and also the response times are not good ehhen >> former met detective mike neville. your thoughts ? neville. your thoughts? >> well, i was, i was in the military police first, so i routinely carried a pistol and sometimes a submachine gun in northern ireland. >> but as has been said, you know, it's a force everybody to do this. i think there should be an officers to carry an option for officers to carry an option for officers to carry a weapon because we're in an archaic situation. >> we're the only country in the world who don't have armed officers. people often compare us like, happens in us with like, what happens in the states, for example. but of course, you just mentioned places like australia are more comparable to the uk. all the units, all the officers are routinely armed, but there need to be some legal protections here. we're asking people to make life changing decisions and then we be charging every then we can't be charging every officer with murder. and after
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the, you know, got the murder trial coming up the where chris kaba was shot, an officer who made a split second decision being charged with murder. what family would want their loved one to go to work and have to make those decisions? you might end up being locked up for life. so it's to my mind, you know, we trust surgeons, but sometimes surgeons make mistakes and people die on the operating table. we accept these are high risk situations, with the type of suspect in australia, if somebody completely frenzied on drugs or drunk or very mentally ill, then the facts are that tasers and batons often don't work, but a bullet does, you know? and that saved a lot of lives. but we're asking people to make very difficult, very difficult decisions, and they should supported, okay. difficult decisions, and they shonichi supported, okay. difficult decisions, and they shonichi hodgson.ed, okay. >> nichi hodgson. >> nichi hodgson. >> recruitment. and in terms of trust from the public. and i think fundamentally, if you start arming all officers and
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you have a massive problem with trust between them and the pubuc trust between them and the public at a time when people don't have a lot of faith in the police. and, you know, we've got we've got so examples. you we've got so many examples. you know, in know, i used to live in stockwell, jean charles de menezes. remember him? 2005? he was suspected of a was wrongly suspected of a terrorist offence and was shot in head. was brazilian in the head. he was a brazilian man and, you know, family man and, you know, his family never that. that was never got over that. that was a decision was made wrongly decision that was made wrongly by you every by a unit. if you have every single officer being forced to carry a weapon, we've got be carry a weapon, we've got to be realistic. some of those people don't want to do it, and some of them not good enough do them are not good enough to do it. and i think the other issue is talk a lot about is that we talk a lot about weapons in circulation the weapons in circulation in the uk. you have in uk. the more weapons you have in circulation, the circulation, even amongst the police, circulation, even amongst the pothose falling the wrong of those falling into the wrong hands members. hands i.e. gang members. >> yeah, i mean, that's an interesting thought. let's go to rebecca reid. rebecca reid, what do think, i think in 2023, do you think, i think in 2023, 1500 officers are working. police officers were accused of crimes of violence against women. so if all of those 1500 men, if even 1% were guilty,
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that means 15 men were guilty against violence against women. then having guns at work just doesn't feel right. and i don't i think whether you're left or right, nobody in this country seems to think police is seems to think the police is going think that going well. the left think that they're often racist. going well. the left think that they right often racist. going well. the left think that they right think often racist. going well. the left think that they right think theyzn racist. going well. the left think that they right think they are acist. the right think they are incompetent and spend too much time rainbow flags. time wearing rainbow flags. >> but either way, nobody feels, i in this country, like i think in this country, like policing is nailing it. so the idea them weapons idea that to give them weapons that kill people would be that can kill people would be the cure to that problem feels very, unlikely . very, very unlikely. >> rebecca reid, yes or no, >> so rebecca reid, yes or no, then should police be given guns? police? absolutely. guns? our police? absolutely. >> think >> absolutely not. i think it would be a disaster for everybody involved. would be a disaster for evepolice involved. would be a disaster for evepolice nichi/ed. would be a disaster for evepolice nichi hodgson nishi , >> police nichi hodgson nishi, yes or no? you think they yes or no? yes. you think they should? definitely should? no. definitely not. no, no . definitely not, mike no. definitely not, mike neville, no ? neville, yes or no? >> yes. if they want to carry them because they'll save lots more lives than will be lost. and finally, to you, chris. >> yes or no? no, no no . well, >> yes or no? no, no no. well, listen. that's interesting. thank you so much for your thoughts. chris hobbs, also, nichi reid and
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nichi hodgson, rebecca reid and also mike neville. thank you so much for your thoughts. what do you think at home? gb news comment slash your say, get in touch. we know we'd love to hear what you think about all of that, but you're with me . i'm that, but you're with me. i'm nana akua. this is gb news coming up. we'll continue with the great british debate this houn the great british debate this hour. i'm asking, all hour. i'm asking, should all british but british police carry guns? but first, latest first, let's get your latest news . aaron. news with. aaron. >> hi, there. it's 533, i'm aaron armstrong. iran risks provoking an uncontrollable regional escalation. the words of g7 leaders who've condemned the attack last night against israel and reaffirmed their commitment to israeli security. now, g7 leaders are demanding iran and its proxies cease their attacks. and they say they will continue to work towards stabilising the situation . it stabilising the situation. it comes after the israeli war cabinet said it will exact a price from iran for its overnight assault, including in
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the form of missiles. iran, meanwhile, says it will launch a much larger attack if israel retaliates . however, president retaliates. however, president biden has warned his israeli counterpart , benjamin netanyahu counterpart, benjamin netanyahu the united states won't take any part in retaliatory strikes . part in retaliatory strikes. rishi sunak has confirmed raf planes did shoot down a number of iranian drones and missiles overnight, in what he's described as a dangerous escalation in the region . shadow escalation in the region. shadow foreign secretary david lammy is urging the government to issue sanctions against iran's revolutionary national guard. >> this highlights once again the extreme danger of the irgc and the iranian guard. we have said that we think that it should be prescribed , and it is should be prescribed, and it is for the government to come forward with new plans to prescribe them and to deal with this issue of state actors that would behave in this appalling way, that wreaks terror on a
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wider community. >> more than 120,000 people have crossed the english channel by small boats since 2018. 219 arrivals were recorded by the home office yesterday . the total home office yesterday. the total for this year is now 17% higher than the same period last year. labour shadow immigration minister stephen kinnock has called it another grim milestone. he says britain must strengthen its border security . strengthen its border security. labour says it will impose strict 24 hour time limits on police when dealing with serious domestic abuse cases. shadow home secretary yvette cooper says she's sick and tired of the government treating violence against women and girls as inevitable. the government says labouris inevitable. the government says labour is soft on crime and doesn't have a plan to tackle it . you can sign up to gb news alerts for more on all of our stories. the qr codes on your screen or the information is also website. it's screen or the information is also to website. it's screen or the information is also to . website. it's screen or the information is also to . nana.)site. it's back to. nana. >> thank you aaron. in my special supplement sunday, i'll
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? good 7 good afternoon. if you're just tuned in, where have you been? there's only 21 minutes to go. i'm nana akua. there's only 21 minutes to go. i'm nana akua . this is gb news. i'm nana akua. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. and don't forget to download the gb news app. it's totally free, but it's time now for the great british debate. this hour i'm asking, should all british police carry gunsin should all british police carry guns in the uk? most police do not routinely carry firearms and some for the some would argue that's for the best. sun reported best. after the sun reported some 18,000 officers were hired without a single in—person interview in australia as well. you saw what happened there. all police officers are armed and the officer who shot the knifeman that killed six people in yesterday been in sydney yesterday has been
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hailed a hero. so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking, all police carry asking, should all police carry guns? well, joining me by a panel broadcaster and author panel are broadcaster and author christine and also christine hamilton and also broadcaster danny kelly. >> christine hamilton no, frightfully. i'm british for the police to carry guns. isn't it frightfully i'm british. no i don't think they should. i mean the argument. you know what the arguments are for against. arguments are for and against. and just on balance, and i just think, on balance, i think encourage more think it would encourage more criminals guns, and criminals to carry guns, and therefore probably end therefore we will probably end up with more people but by up with more people dead, but by the , that business of all the way, that business of all those police officers being hired without even a face to face interview, i'm not defending but it was during covid. >> no, they carried on after. >> no, they carried on after. >> do they carry on afterwards? i mean, can possibly i mean, how can you possibly appoint officer with appoint a police officer with all the responsibility, etc, without having a face to face it? it's like then give them a gun and then give them a gun. i mean, you know, so i know i enough policemen do damn stupid things for me to be very worried indeed. if they all had a gun,
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give them tasers, give them everything need to defend everything they need to defend themselves. but not a completely lethal weapon like a gaza and a baton. >> they can all be lethal weapons. danny kelly i would go with the australian model. >> i think one of your guests earlier said that the only earlier said that we're the only country doesn't have country that doesn't have routinely don't routinely armed coppers. i don't think zealand think that's true. new zealand doesn't . in republic of doesn't. even in the republic of ireland routinely in ireland you don't routinely in northern ireland you do. but the repubuc northern ireland you do. but the republic don't. i wouldn't republic you don't. i wouldn't have a problem with it. my only concerns would be if they concerns would be like if they were some massive pub were sent to some massive pub brawl the middle some brawl in the middle of some council in the west council estate in the west midlands, travelled midlands, where i've travelled from the from today at three in the morning, punching and all morning, people punching and all of a sudden grabs the of a sudden some idiot grabs the gun. would be a concern of gun. that would be a concern of mine, they idiots mine, but they have idiots brawling australia. brawling in australia. three in the in council the morning in council estates. >> listen, my >> well listen, one of my producers, who , he in producers, who, says he lives in australia, said that actually the police end up shooting more innocent people than the people are after, simply because i think it's a slippery slope. >> apparently the public view is changing in, in 2004, it was about 50, 50, 48% no for guns.
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and in 2017 that had changed to 72% thought the police should be armed. no 72% thought so. people are beginning to think that police should be armed. >> i wonder if he'll say that on our poll, i doubt it. i wouldn't think so. >> i mean, we've got the most of the armed police are in the met, as understand. we've about as i understand. we've got about 6500 the 6500 armed police in the country, don't get paid country, so they don't get paid any well. any extra as well. >> they're volunteers. they don't more though. don't get paid any more though. well, armed copper. well, to be an armed copper. >> i think should >> well, i think they should do that exam, be paid that and have an exam, be paid more, an exam and actually more, have an exam and actually loads they're loads of training if they're going them. let's loads of training if they're goirwhat them. let's loads of training if they're goirwhat you them. let's loads of training if they're goirwhat you think. let's loads of training if they're goirwhat you think because�*s loads of training if they're goirwhat you think because the see what you think because the show is nothing without you and your welcome our your views. let's welcome our great british voices their opportunity the show opportunity to be on the show and they think and tell us what they think about topics we're about the topics we're discussing. let's see who i've got i've got today. let's go. i've got three you. webb in three of you. lee webb in bedfordshire . should they bedfordshire. should they carry guns ? guns? >>i guns? >> i actually believe that they should. yeah, absolutely . and if should. yeah, absolutely. and if their training is good enough, it shouldn't be a problem . now, it shouldn't be a problem. now, we're no longer dixon of dock green, them days are long over.
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>> we're probably not going to get them back. i've actually carried, a weapon on the british streets, when i served in northern ireland. so i know what it's like working with people from the ruc, which is now known as the police service of northern ireland. and they're still armed , and i still routinely armed, and i think if it's a voluntary basis where if police want to be armed, they should be armed and they should be allowed to be armed, but it's all about the training doesn't need training and it doesn't need to look america . we can be look like america. we can be european can european about this and we can be australian as well. >> all right. cool. let's go to bnan >> all right. cool. let's go to brian doogan in solihull. brian >> hey. no, no. how are you doing? all right. >> i think i'm with you on this, i would be sceptical, at best, i just fear that it leads only to a kind of escalation, i don't think it , it a kind of escalation, i don't think it, it really helps. even in america. i don't think that any of the, statistics would, would show that it , it leaves would show that it, it leaves the police in a better spot in
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any way to tackle a crime, and, you know, they get shot and killed, unfortunately, as well, and so, you know, i think we have a police we are policed kind of by consent in this country. that's been the tradition . tradition. >> and we should keep it that way. >> i think we should keep it that way. i don't think that the i don't think that it's, an overriding plus, to an overwhelming rather to armour. >> armour police. all right. let's just go to judy . judy in let's just go to judy. judy in bedfordshire. judy. >> yeah. hi. i agree with brian and yourself. >> i don't think at this stage we need to be having all of our officers the firearms officers armed, the firearms officers armed, the firearms officers that do carry guns, they are specifically trained in how to use that weapon. and there is somebody also with them making a decision on when to shoot. i think if you armed everybody and like danny said, if come to a brawl and if they come up to a brawl and actually it's just fisticuffs and somebody panicking new to the job draws out their gun, you could end up seeing more innocent people shot on the streets do at the
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streets than than we do at the moment . moment. >> i say, hell no way should they carrying guns at all. they be carrying guns at all. thank you so much to brian, juue thank you so much to brian, julie and also lee. lovely to talk to you. my great british voice is fabulous. god no . today voice is fabulous. god no. today i've been asking, should all police lots of you police carry guns? lots of you have in touch. have been getting in touch. let's paula says. yes, let's see what paula says. yes, yes. armed police. mad? yes. armed police. are you mad? paula says do not paula no, no. george says do not recruit are not recruit people who are not prepared to carry weapons. really? michelle no, really? michelle says no, i don't trust the police anymore. nelson says the youngsters in today's police force failed to in common they'd probably in common sense. they'd probably shoot themselves in the foot, i shouldn't laugh , but thank you shouldn't laugh, but thank you so much for your thoughts coming up. supplement sunday, my panel and i will discuss some of the news caught their news stories that caught their eye. got a eye. and this week i've got a special a pensioner who special guest, a pensioner who was she was was arrested after she was wrongly accused of a hate crime. stay is
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gb news. good afternoon. it's almost the end of the show. 48 minutes after 5:00. i'm nana akua. it's time for supplement sunday, where my panel and i discuss some of the news stories that caught their eye. i'm going to start with danny kelly and his supplement, danny kelly. >> well, well, let me tell you. so now this is no surprise. richard ex—top gear. now richard hammond ex—top gear. now amazon is saying amazon prime star is saying basically, the basically, you know, the government wants us all to drive the cars 2030. he says the lucky cars by 2030. he says in 25 years time, 2050, most of us will still be driving petrol. not a surprise to me. the electric car market is not, generally speaking, wanted or desired by the motoring public. generally speaking . i'm not generally speaking. i'm not buying one. >> i don't want one. i'm not buying one. it's telling me what exactly? driving? no, but it tells what to do. no no, christine. >> it's ridiculous. he's absolutely well, is absolutely right. well, this is just offering a just mind blowing. offering a chair colleague at chair to an older colleague at work age discrimination. so work is age discrimination. so if either of you offered a chair
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to me to sit down because i'm older than you, i could legitimately say that you're discriminating against me. this was employment tribunal, was at an employment tribunal, and i could claim of having less favourable treatment because you were saying that your were kindly saying that your legs are older. you might prefer to sit down. mean, it is to sit down. i mean, it is unbelievable. year guy unbelievable. a 66 year old guy who recycling plant who was a recycling plant operative, he sued for discrimination after a colleague asked him if he wanted to sit down during the shift. i mean, you honestly, you couldn't make it contact. it up. it's unwanted contact. well, i'm sorry, but if there's anybody out there who sees me on the train and i haven't got a seat, please give up the seat. get not regard it as. get up. i do not regard it as. was he successful suing? >> well, find out, but i >> well, we'll find out, but i don't think we know well, don't think we know that. well, listen, out. but listen, you will find out. but first, a pensioner. it's my turn now. pensioner was arrested in now. a pensioner was arrested in scotland she was wrongly scotland after she was wrongly accused crime. 74 year accused of a hate crime. 74 year old morag macdougall brown says that she's traumatised following the incident and she joins me now. thank you so much for now. morag thank you so much for joining me. so, morag, what happened , on tuesday morning,
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happened, on tuesday morning, two officers appeared at my door that i knew from previous incidents. >> they had been here and, and, they said they were to here arrest me, and asked why they couldn't tell me , they said they couldn't tell me, they said they would need to take me to an interview room at a police station , all they could say was station, all they could say was it's an allegation. so i was unaware of what was happening to me . i said, what happens if me. i said, what happens if i don't come? they said we'd need to handcuff you. >> what . and, i asked them then >> what. and, i asked them then to go to the van and just wait for me coming out. to go to the van and just wait for me coming out . it it was for me coming out. it it was just something i had to do. and
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they did that? no, they were very, very nice to me. i must be honest. they kept asking if i was okay because they were aware of the two years that i've had and harassment, abuse, etc. and, they took me to kilmarnock police station, which is about 25 minutes away, and, and, sorry, nan. >> that's all right, moray . it >> that's all right, moray. it must have been so traumatising. i was to be. and this was because i think it was a neighbour or somebody had claimed that you had said something, but it wasn't. you at all. it was actually them. >> i didn't even spoken to her. she'd actually. i'd seen her that day out in the back garden. she was pulling down my rosebush and i took a photograph of the kitchen. never went out the doon kitchen. never went out the door. yeah so she must have
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thought that i was going to report that. so she's phoned the police and made up this lie that i called her. >> well, it's awful, moray. i mean , obviously she's not here mean, obviously she's not here to defend herself, so we won't talk too much about her. we're more concerned about you, morag. so finally . how ridiculous so just finally. how ridiculous do you think these scottish hate crime are? someone can crime laws are? if someone can do that , i think it's awful do that, i think it's awful because she could maybe do that tomorrow. >> and i could be taken away again because they said that they can interview me in my own home because of the new law. they had to take me to a police station . but i was searched. i station. but i was searched. i was read my rights , jewellery was read my rights, jewellery was read my rights, jewellery was taken off me and then it was only in the interview room that they told me it was an allegation that my neighbour had made and said that made a complaint and said that i'd called her that name. wallace and morag, we love you.
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>> we think you're amazing, it does demonstrate the ridiculousness of humza yousaf four fs awful hate crime laws. and i'm so thankful that you joined me on my show today. it's been such a pleasure talking to you.thank been such a pleasure talking to you. thank you. we love you. you're mwah take care you're amazing. mwah take care of yourself. thank you so much for do that. bye for agreeing to do that. bye bye.bye for agreeing to do that. bye bye. bye bye bye bye. that is the brilliant morag mcdougall brown. to say thank brown. i've got to say thank you so much carol law and also al so much to carol law and also al mulheron the appreciation so much to carol law and also al mulheon the appreciation so much to carol law and also al mulheon facebook appreciation so much to carol law and also al mulheon facebook for)reciation so much to carol law and also al mulheon facebook for getting n group on facebook for getting morag to for getting me in touch with more much appreciated. thank you. but listen, on today's show, been asking today's show, we've been asking should all british police carry guns? our twitter guns? according to our twitter poll, 65% of you said yes. what 35% of you say no? are you mad? >> no , no. >> no, no. >> no, no. >> well, that's what they think. what do you think? crikey. well listen, i've got to say a huge thank you. you did, didn't you? i've got to say thank you i've got to say huge thank you to panel, broadcaster and to my panel, broadcaster and journalist, danny kelly. danny kelly, to you. kelly, thank you so much to you. >> welcome. kelly, thank you so much to you. >> and welcome. kelly, thank you so much to you. >> and broadcaster and >> and also broadcaster and author hamilton . and
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author christine hamilton. and as ever, a huge thank you to you at home for your company. i look forward to seeing you same time, same place on saturday 3:00. be there or be square. enjoy your week. take care . week. take care. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boiler boilers. sponsors of weather on . gb news. sponsors of weather on. gb news. >> good evening. welcome to your latest gb news weather from the met office. so there has been plenty of showers around in the north, all thanks to an area of low pressure out low pressure situated out towards the north of the uk at the but it will slowly the moment, but it will slowly move way towards through move its way towards us through the weekend and into the rest of the weekend and into the rest of the weekend and into the monday. the start of monday. high pressure close pressure does stay close by towards and for a towards the south and west for a time , bringing some skies time, bringing some clear skies through the sunday evening. but those showers in the north and west slowly push their way south and as we go through and eastwards as we go through the early hours of monday morning, particularly morning, turning particularly
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heavy of heavy across northern parts of england. even see england. and we could even see some the high ground some snow across the high ground of it will be of scotland. and it will be a chilly here, temperatures chilly night here, temperatures dropping single chilly night here, temperatures droppin and single chilly night here, temperatures droppinand even single chilly night here, temperatures droppinand even in single chilly night here, temperatures droppinand even in theingle chilly night here, temperatures droppinand even in the south figures and even in the south around 7 degrees as monday around 7 or 8 degrees as monday starts chilly, but quite starts a bit chilly, but quite a blustery start to the day. not brisk northwesterly winds help clear that band of rain across the southeast through monday morning, leaving a drier day. there will be some sunshine around, but some showers quite quickly from quickly developing from the northwest , these turning wintry northwest, these turning wintry across the high ground of northern england and scotland. and will be a chillier and it will be a much chillier day we've over the day than we've seen over the weekend. reach weekend. struggling to reach much or 13 in the south much above 12 or 13 in the south and struggling and even struggling to reach double in the north. double figures in the north. tuesday start drier tuesday does start a bit drier for most us, though there for most of us, though there will of sunshine will be plenty of sunshine through still, the through the morning. still, the odd 2 showers around across odd 1 or 2 showers around across northern and western parts, and perhaps bubbling across perhaps a few bubbling up across eastern england. but eastern parts of england. but there should be plenty of sunshine around. however, temperatures still close to average, a few showers average, still a few showers around on wednesday and thursday, there are of thursday, but there are hints of something settled in thursday, but there are hints of sonweekg settled in thursday, but there are hints of sonweek and settled in thursday, but there are hints of sonweek and temperatures in the week and temperatures returning average , so returning closer to average, so that warm feeling inside from
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