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paying them half £1 million a year? i'll be breaking the conspiracy of silence around one of the corporation's biggest stars . so much to get through, stars. so much to get through, really busy show. i'll be deaung really busy show. i'll be dealing with the huw edwards story and the bbc at 10:00. angela rayner is first up in the firing line. so two hours of big opinion, big debate and big entertainment. lots to get through. first the news headunes through. first the news headlines hour and armstrong. headlines an hour and armstrong. >> thanks, mark. very good evening to you. i'm aaron armstrong in the gb newsroom. iran risks provoking an uncontrollable regional escalation. a warning from world leaders following last night's attack on israel. g7 leaders, including lord cameron, have been meeting to discuss the crisis in the middle east. they've condemned iran's attack and they stand ready to take and say they stand ready to take further measures. they say israel. israel says it will extract a price from iran when

the time is right, describing the time is right, describing the islamic republic as the greatest threat to regional stability and world order. iran, meanwhile, says it will launch a much larger assault if israel retaliates. president biden has warned his israeli counterpart, benjamin netanyahu. the us will not take part in any retaliatory strikes and white house spokesman john kirby says israel must decide on the next move. >> we need to see what the war cabinet decides in terms of the whatever next step they want to pursue, and that's a sovereign decision, course, our decision, of course, that our israeli to israeli counterparts have to make . i would just say this, make. i would just say this, president biden, the president biden, since the beginning this conflict, has beginning of this conflict, has worked hard to keep this worked very hard to keep this from broader regional war. >> well, earlier, rishi sunak confirmed raf planes did shoot down a number of iranian drones and missiles in what he's described as a dangerous escalation in the region. shadow foreign secretary david lammy is urging the government to issue sanctions against iran's revolutionary guard. >> this highlights once again

the extreme danger of the i. argc and the iranian guard . we argc and the iranian guard. we have said that we think that it should be prescribed , and it is should be prescribed, and it is for the government to come forward with new plans to prescribe them and to deal with this issue of state actors that would behave in this appalling way, that wreaks terror on a wider community. >> more than 250 survivors of the manchester arena bombing are taking legal action against m15 . taking legal action against m15. 22 people died in the explosion in may 2017 and hundreds more were injured. lawyers representing injured survivors have confirmed they've submitted a group claim to an independent judicial body. an inquiry found the bombing may have been prevented if m15 had acted on intelligence received in the months leading up to the attack last year. m15's director ken mccallum said he was profoundly sorry that they were unable to prevent the atrocity . a cabinet prevent the atrocity. a cabinet minister has insisted the

government's rwanda plans on track, with flights due to take off within weeks . health off within weeks. health secretary victoria atkins says the home office is ready to go, despite the troubled bill still making its way through parliament. no airline has been named to transport the asylum seekers after rwanda's state owned carrier turned down a request . the prime minister has request. the prime minister has repeatedly said the flights would take off by spring, although no date has been set . although no date has been set. we'll have more in our later bulletins, or you can get more information right now on all of our stories by scanning the qr code on your screen. the website has more details. that's it for the moment. now it's back to . mark. >> thanks, aaron. welcome to mark dolan tonight. in the big story, is britain being dragged into an all out war in the middle east? as the boss of m&s expresses deep concerns about some of their policies.

expresses deep concerns about some of their policies . would a some of their policies. would a union loving labour government bankrupt britain ? i'll be asking bankrupt britain? i'll be asking former minister edwina currie in my take at ten whatever happened to huw edwards why the bbc are still paying him half £1 million? i'll be breaking the conspiracy of silence around one of the corporation's biggest stars. that's at ten. i'll be exposing some shocking information. you won't want to miss it. we'll also bring you mark meets ann widdecombe and liz truss's favourite policy guru, with me tonight. my top punst guru, with me tonight. my top pundits emma webb, neil parish and nigel nelson. plus the most important part of the show your emails, your comments, get in touch gbnews.com/yoursay and this show has a golden rule we don't do boring. not on my watch . i just won't have it. a big two hours to come. i'll be deaung two hours to come. i'll be dealing with huw edwards at ten. where he? but first, my where is he? but first, my big opinion . poor old angela rayner

opinion. poor old angela rayner. she used to be so talkative. if politicians were in hot water like boris johnson during partygate , she was out of the partygate, she was out of the traps like an eager greyhound chasing the stuffed rabbits of a political scandal . well, she's political scandal. well, she's always going around talking about her working class credentials, even though a leading commentator on this very show last night, doctor lisa mckenzie, begs to differ. >> angela rayner is guilty of hypocrisy and of being a class traitor . ouch. traitor. ouch. >> now, angela reportedly loves teasing colleagues about how she used to distract boris johnson by crossing her legs provocatively at prime minister's questions, revealing what she has allegedly described as the ginger growler and this most vocal of politicians made no apologies for calling her conservative opponents scum . so

conservative opponents scum. so in the end, this lively and compelling political figure who i've always liked is never backwards about coming forwards. but for weeks now , the ginger but for weeks now, the ginger growler has lost her bark . it's growler has lost her bark. it's rough. perhaps she was hoping that the political drama around whether or not she lived at one address or another ten years ago would go quietly away. wishful thinking is a meagre currency in the world of politics. now we don't need to get into the details of the story. she's very clear that she's done nothing wrong, and there is a police investigation ongoing and we need due process . the problem is need due process. the problem is this investigation could take months, which is a political headache for rayner's boss, sir keir starmer. now it's my view that following wrong positions on brexit lockdown and trans rights, his support forjeremy rights, his support for jeremy corbyn, energy security and his aborted green revolution in sir

keir starmer is a man of extremely poor political judgement. i think you'll see it when he inevitably becomes prime minister and in his steadfast support for rayner, he may once again pay a heavy political price not because she's guilty or not guilty, but because so many questions remain unanswered . now, rayner has said that she has legal advice confirming that she acted properly , but she she acted properly, but she hasn't shown that legal advice to her boss, sir keir starmer. and he hasn't asked to see it. i'm so confused. first of all, as labour leader, surely he would be interested in seeing this evidence and he's a former top lawyer. he's always telling us, isn't he, that he's a former top lawyer. plus his mother was a nurse and his father a toolmaker. have you not heard every day the rayner plot

thickens. this drama is lengthier than the film oppenheimer, and with just as much explosive material , with much explosive material, with today's mail on sunday reporting that her former chief adviser matt finnigan, has given a statement to greater manchester police, effectively calling her a liar, he told the force that her actual home was with her then husband, not at the former council house where she was registered on the electoral roll . now, who knows what the truth is ? this could be right. this is? this could be right. this could be wrong. i'm not going to take sides. angela rayner could be as innocent as they come and as pure as the driven snow. but the double standards at play here politically are beyond reasonable doubt. if the high heel was on the other foot, angela rayner would be calling for her opposite number to step down. and it's my view that a conservative minister under similar circumstances would be long gone. but of course, fence

sitter in chief starmer doesn't want to rock the boat with different factions in his own party. he's already in enough hot water with his stance on israel and his efforts to modernise the party and adopt a blairite agenda. but this is a damaging drama that chips away at the credibility of the people who will likely form our next government. angela rayner remains in post for now, but with more unanswered questions than a game of trivial pursuit. your reaction? a brand new way to communicate with the show . to communicate with the show. gbnews.com/yoursay i'll get to your thoughts very shortly, but with me tonight, my top pundits ringside action for the big stories of the day. i'm delighted to welcome none other than writer and broadcaster emma webb , former conservative mp and webb, former conservative mp and

farmer neil parish and gb news very own senior political commentator nigel nelson. great to have all three of you with me. neil parish , let me start me. neil parish, let me start with you. i do think that this story raises many unanswered questions. >> it does. >> it does. >> and of course , angela rayner, >> and of course, angela rayner, as you rightly said, she's an attack dog. basically she's a rottweiler. she has a go. >> she's a bit of a growler, isn't she? >> yeah she does. and so therefore, you know, some i would give more sympathy to angela. would not because angela. i would not because i think at the end of the day she's dished it out on everybody i >> -- >> did she dish it out on you at all when you were feeling the heat a few months ago? >> clearly, nothing personal. no. but very good at, no. so but she is very good at, you calling for people's you know, calling for people's resignations is going for the jugular. time , you jugular. and so this time, you see, you take on friday, you had keir starmer going out announcing that he will not only keep but he'll enhance the nuclear deterrent. and he would use it unlike jeremy corbyn,

remember, who had a deterrent. but he wouldn't use it, not a not really a deterrent at the end of the day. so he was putting the defence of the realm, importantly was keir starmer. but of course, on the same day keir starmer wanted jeremy corbyn to prime jeremy corbyn to be prime minister and corbyn not be minister and corbyn would not be led press led on whether he'd press the nuclear now keir starmer is mr >> but now keir starmer is mr nuclear almost like a u—turn? >> yes, exactly. but also the point i'm trying to make, mark, too, is that you see, on the same day that he's announcing all of this strong defence position, you've got the position, you've got the position of angela rayner being raised . which house was raised again. which house was she in? she has she she living in? was she has she committed offence or not? and committed an offence or not? and in politics, in a way it doesn't altogether matter whether you're guilty whether you're guilty or whether you're innocent. how long the innocent. it's how long the story continues. and so if it continues , there's a lot more continues, there's a lot more then i suspect she will have to stand down. but of course, don't forget keir starmer can't under labour policy. you know, the labour policy. you know, the labour way the labour party runs itself can't just fire her because he has. she's elected,

as you know, by the party. and thatis as you know, by the party. and that is also a problem. and so but you know, let's see how it plays out. let's see how the investigation takes place. but you know, i don't think in westminster , dare i say it. is westminster, dare i say it. is there a huge amount of sympathy. certainly not from from the conservative side, the tory side. but i suspect even on her own side and perhaps some people would not be weeping too much if she was to go. >> emma webb, great to have you back on the show. your reaction to this story now we want to have due process on mark dolan tonight, right? everyone is innocent guilty and innocent until proven guilty and therefore the police investigation is ongoing. the essence of my big opinion monologue is about the politics of and the political double of this and the political double standards. i think was standards. i think if it was a conservative counterpart, they'd have been gone weeks ago. yeah >> so normally i would say with this kind of thing, i think people are sick of it. i think people are sick of it. i think people are sick of it. i think people are sick of the kind of westminster bubble, almost westminster bubble, it almost comes gossip, even ,

comes across as gossip, even, you know, like cake gate, but the issue with angela rayner is, of course, the hypocrisy. and i think that's what makes it impossible to have sympathy with her, she has the her, because she has been the person been calling person who's been calling for other publish their other people to publish their tax resign . she's tax returns, to resign. she's tried to herself out to be tried to make herself out to be madame ethics in parliament, and she have made an error. it she might have made an error. it seems unlikely that this is some this is something that you could an error that you could honestly make . and i think it's quite make. and i think it's quite interesting that she the way she phrased her. i will resign if was quite canny. it's very, very specific. if she's found to be criminally culpable essentially is the circumstances under which she would resign. so i think she's trying to leave the door open , because of course, there's open, because of course, there's a i think is it is it a statute of limitations? there's a certain amount of after certain amount of time after which. so not going to be which. so she's not going to be prosecuted made prosecuted even if she has made a so i think a mistake. and so i think politically, this is going be politically, this is going to be very for starmer very difficult for keir starmer because no way in which because there's no way in which she can back and try to

she can come back and try to make demands for the calibre of the way that the house conducts. it conducts itself without it being levelled, that she's a hypocrite and just in terms of the politics of it, i think that this is just a small glimpse of what we will see when if we have a labour government, because, you know, we've obviously had a lot more focus on the conservative party because they're in power. but once the labour party are in power, all of these fault lines will become very, very clear and there'll be a more scrutiny. and i'm not a lot more scrutiny. and i'm not sure they hold up to that. >> nigel nelson, if the shoe was on the other foot and this was a conservative minister, sir keir starmer over them starmer would be all over them like a rash. >> yeah, i'm sure they would. and that's politics, so i've no doubt about that. and i think that emma and neil have identified the real problem with the angela rayner story is what she said about other people. however this is this is substantially different that the police decided it wasn't worth their time or trouble to

investigate this. so so that's what happened to an ordinary person . angela rayner is not an person. angela rayner is not an ordinary person. and suddenly we get james daly, the tory vice chairman, making a complaint to the police. the police are in a situation whereby they can't be seen to be politically partisan, so they must conduct this investigation . and i'm fairly investigation. and i'm fairly sure at the end of it nothing will will come of it. angela rayner will carry on being deputy leader and become deputy prime minister, but yes, i mean, deputy leader and become deputy primeiinnister, but yes, i mean, deputy leader and become deputy primeis this:er, but yes, i mean, deputy leader and become deputy primeis this , r, but yes, i mean, deputy leader and become deputy primeis this , this,t yes, i mean, deputy leader and become deputy primeis this , this, this, i mean, deputy leader and become deputy primeis this , this, this trickyan, there is this, this, this tricky bit. i think in the future she might be a bit more careful about calling for resignations of tory ministers. >> why doesn't keir starmer want to the advice to see the legal advice that she's received? he's one of the country's top lawyers. >> yeah, didn't to, >> yeah, it didn't need to, i mean, the reason that it hasn't seen it. no, he hasn't seen it and need to see. and he didn't need to see. >> you want a >> wouldn't you want to have a glance at well, maybe glance at it? well, maybe a couple of paragraphs, but boris johnson the bafics >> i'm suspicious, and i think the advice probably isn't the legal advice probably isn't that good, so if he's seen it,

then , of course, if it turns out then, of course, if it turns out not to be so good, he is then culpable of seeing it. i don't think he wants to see the legal advice in case this is politics again, because if it does turn nigel. keir starmer will want this. >> nigel. >> nigel. >> angela rayner hasn't shown it to her boss and he doesn't want to her boss and he doesn't want to see it. this is a pantomime and i think a mockery to the british people. >> not really. i mean the whole thing is that the, the legal advice the tax advice advice and the, the tax advice that got through the, that she got through the, that was looked by her team to was looked at by her team to make everything that she make sure everything that she was the clear then it was was in the clear and then it was looked at in, keir starmer's office. so his was he in the office. so his was he in the office at the time like having a cup of tea? >> i wasn't there, i wasn't there so i can't, i can't i can't help you with that one. maybe but you must admit it's a touch comical. >> yeah. well would you >> yeah. well i mean, would you want see see all the advice want to see see all the advice of member your staff had of a member of your staff had actually got. >> well, related to the >> well, if it related to the deputy prime minister, at deputy prime minister, or at least as labour

least my deputy as labour leader, i would certainly want to see any material that implicated or indeed didn't implicated or indeed didn't implicate her. implicated or indeed didn't imfofate her. implicated or indeed didn't imfof course. implicated or indeed didn't imfof course they would, >> of course they would, especially i was a lawyer especially if i was a lawyer with a for things. with a head for these things. >> previous attorney general , >> previous attorney general, for god's sake. >> know not afraid of >> you know he's not afraid of bonng is >> you know he's not afraid of boring is he? boring documents, is he? >> and he he. >> exactly. and he and he. surely legal is what surely the legal side is what matters to him. i very suspicious why doesn't want suspicious why he doesn't want to see it, but that's just me being a politician. >> maybe he's just been very busy. >> an observation in the telegraph today i thought telegraph today that i thought was good was is that if was was very good was is that if she it's interesting she does and it's interesting that chosen just that she has chosen not to just release tax return, if that release her tax return, if that would up all of the would clear up all of the conversation around this. but it's return. it's not a tax return. >> bear in mind it's tax advice, which contains personal which contains a lot of personal material . and her argument would material. and her argument would be, and think reasonably , this be, and i think reasonably, this is a private document. it's not like saying here, this is the tax i've paid. >> so the point that was made in the telegraph, which i thought was interesting, is that was quite interesting, is that if release some of if she were to release some of this personal information, then it her to not quite it might reveal her to not quite be the class warrior and be the working class warrior and having a financial situation that maybe people

that maybe a lot of people wouldn't be to relate to. wouldn't be able to relate to. >> champagne socialist. >> champagne socialist. >> thought . >> perish the thought. >> perish the thought. >> it would never happen as none of them are right. >> really , really important >> it's really, really important to that rayner to stress that angela rayner denies wrongdoing . she has denies any wrongdoing. she has received legal advice confirming she's with propriety. she's acted with propriety. there's now a police investigation that needs due process, so let's hold fire until we have the outcome of that investigation. until then, innocent until proven guilty. what i will add, though, is that the politics of this, i believe, will linger for a long time going forward. coming up next in the big story is britain being dragged into an all out war in the middle east. we'll debate that

next. as well, a big reaction to my big opinion. the angela rayner affair raises more unanswered questions than a game of trivial

pursuit . but it's not trivial pursuit. but it's not trivial for the country, because these folks will likely be in charge in a few months time. well, the emails are coming in. i got to stop calling emails because it's a brand new way of messaging the show. and you've been heading over brilliant new over to our brilliant new messaging service. and let me see i've got. lynn does not see what i've got. lynn does not agree. not happy me, agree. she's not happy with me, lynn says. you say a conservative mp would resign in the position as angela the same position as angela raynen the same position as angela rayner. they get away rayner. please. they get away with tax evasion, sent texts breaking covid rules, telling blatant lies, claiming unlawful expenses. for god's sakes, i'm disappointed in your take on this, says lynn. meanwhile, ian says angela rayner will get away with lying just like curry gate and beer gate. her and flip flop will wreck this country even more than the tories. how do i know ? because i live in wales, know? because i live in wales, says ian , and how about this says ian, and how about this from daryl who says, hi mark. yes, we all know that sir keir starmer's dad was indeed a toolmaker, unfortunately, great stuff. keep those messages

coming. don't forget at 10:00 it might take 1030 five minutes from now, i'll be dealing with the bbc's huw edwards. half £1 million a year. hasn't been on telly for nine months. what's going on? i shall reveal all at ten. but it's time now for the big story. and whilst we were on air last night, we broke the news that iran had launched in excess of 150 drones and missiles on israel . now, whilst missiles on israel. now, whilst the vast majority of these unmanned aircraft and rockets were intercepted by israeli, british and american forces, the prime minister confirmed that the problem continues. how do israel respond? take a listen to the prime minister >> i can confirm that our planes did shoot down a number of iranian attack drones. i don't want to pay tribute to the bravery and professionalism of our pilots flying into the face of . of danger. >> the ramifications of this attack will likely be lasting in the region. so what does last night mean for israel's effort

to eliminate hamas? what does it tell us about the nature of the iranian do britain iranian regime? and do britain and america risk being dragged into another expensive and bloody war in the middle east? well, to debate this, i'm delighted to welcome captain reserve of israel's special forces , eyal biram. mr brown, forces, eyal biram. mr brown, thank you so much for joining forces, eyal biram. mr brown, thank you so much forjoining us on mark dolan tonight. what is your reaction to what happened last you surprised ? last night? were you surprised? >> no, think we all were very >> no, i think we all were very surprised. although there was an intelligence the idf, intelligence and the idf, together coalition led together with the coalition led by the us preparing for situation and similar attack, we never expected iran to shoot such an unpresidential attack with 300 missiles, uavs and more to israel, including ballistic missiles. important to say this missiles. important to say this missiles one day can take the same ammunition. the same nuclear ammunition that iran aims to create. and that's why i'm very worried. >> so last night's rockets could be nuclear rockets, same rocket come the same ballistic rockets. and the damage that one nuclear rocket could do to israel wipe

out half the country. >> israel is a very small country. we should remember it. israel is a very small country with less than 10 million with just less than 10 million people. israel lives in with just less than 10 million prvery�*. israel lives in with just less than 10 million prvery complicated.rael lives in with just less than 10 million prvery complicated area, ives in with just less than 10 million p

israeli people. but why does it matter to my viewers and listeners protect the state listeners to protect the state of thousands of of israel? it's thousands of miles . why is it important, miles away. why is it important, similar happened yesterday. >> the attack, short on israel, was also 1000km away from iranian soil, and this is the first time it's happening since the revolution in iran in 1979. why it's important for the uk because the same missiles that right now have been shot in israel yesterday night is the one that for the last almost two years and more been shot in ukraine. this is the same iranian ammunition and the same ukraine. this is the same iranithatmmunition and the same ukraine. this is the same iranithat onejnition and the same ukraine. this is the same iranithat one day,»n and the same ukraine. this is the same iranithat one day, if and the same ukraine. this is the same iranithat one day, if will the same ukraine. this is the same iranithat one day, if will not same one that one day, if will not prevent iran from achieving their islamic caliphate their goal of islamic caliphate from to egypt. they from iran to egypt. they will also europe. that's also attack europe. and that's why concerned. on the why i'm also concerned. on the one after seeing this one hand, after seeing this great accomplishment by the question the g7 question seeing after the g7 committee today meeting and discussing what should prevent iran from doing it, if the g7 will be able to announce a deterrent message for iran that will prevent them to do it again . that's why israel is concerned. >> so you think it's possible that in the years ahead, iran

could the united kingdom ? could attack the united kingdom? >> i think iran has an achievement and as a goal and their goal is to create an islamic caliphate as islamic caliphate from, as i said, from iran to egypt. they will do whatever they can in order achieve, to turn, turn order to achieve, to turn, turn the the planet the entire, the entire planet into an islamic caliphate, specifically the middle east. but if the uk will prevent them for doing it, they will attack the uk. they're not afraid. they're not also taking care of their people. we today their people. we saw today happening , a rally in front of happening, a rally in front of the iranian of iranian the iranian embassy of iranian people the who people who live in the uk, who are the regime. are opposing the iranian regime. and it's important to and that's why it's important to understand this is not a understand that this is not a war between the iranian people and israel . this is a war and israel. this is a war between a radical regime that lay all around the lay the proxies all around the middle yemen, middle east, including yemen, syria, also including syria, iraq, and also including gaza hamas. and this gaza with hamas. and this is a question. if this radical proxies and iran itself will be able to deter it from doing it again. >> iran, of course, supported to a certain degree by china and russia . how close are we to russia. how close are we to world war ii ?

world war ii? >> in my point of view, this is why response for iran attack is important, like what's happened with ukraine and, result for the coalition gathered to support the ukraine. this is a question, not about israel. i know israel will be able to attack back. but this is a question. what is the western world the civilisation should do order to make sure should do in order to make sure that iran would interested that iran would not interested in again, not just in in doing it? again, not just in order their capabilities. we know they have the capabilities. it's a question deterring iran. >> israel's self—defence was very successful last night. i'm sure you're very proud of what was achieved with the support of allied forces . however, the allied forces. however, the president of the united states has said to your prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, to accept that victory, to take the win is a direct quote from joe biden. do you think that israel should turn the other cheek and not retaliate, and instead seek to dsk late the situation ? dsk late the situation? >> i think the de—escalation

will be when the iran will be deterred. the question is how to deterred. the question is how to deter iran. israel is not interesting, is not interested interesting, is not interested in back. israel is in attacking back. israel is hopeful able to create hopeful will be able to create the same peace that happened in october 6th. since hamas broke and started this war. in my point view, israel should do point of view, israel should do one main step, which is making sure that the proxies that all around israel and i'm speaking about lebanon, about hezbollah, and also about hamas and other proxies in yemen and in iraq and syria, would be deterred and how to deter them. i think part of the work is to finish the war in gaza. i hopeful that it will happen soon. and i think as soon it will soon, it will it will happen soon, it will also good both for israelis also be good both for israelis and for the gazans people. and also for the gazans people. >> lastly, talk about the >> lastly, can we talk about the people in israel, ordinary folk last how does feel to last night? how does it feel to be country which has got be in a country which has got rockets drones raining in rockets and drones raining in the skies? >> yesterday it felt like a reality show. we saw how israel, on one hand, could almost be eliminated from the earth. this is what the iranian the iranian vision is. and on the other

hand, how many allies gather together to prevent it? i'm worried. not because what's happened worried happened yesterday. i'm worried because october was because october 7th was a situation israel was not situation when israel was not prepared. can be one morning prepared. it can be one morning or night iran will or one night when iran will decide attack israel , and for decide to attack israel, and for that specific night is will that specific night is what will not prevented, not be not be prevented, will not be prepared as it was yesterday night last 12 days, mr night for the last 12 days, mr barham , i wish you and the barham, i wish you and the israeli people well. >> thank very much for >> thank you very much for joining having >> thank you very much for joini eyal having >> thank you very much for joini eyal there. having >> thank you very much for joini eyal there. havi|you me, eyal biram there. thank you very much , captain. reserve of very much, captain. reserve of israel's special forces . now, up israel's special forces. now, up next, as the boss of maz expresses deep concerns about some of their policies, would a union loving labour government bankrupt britain? can britain afford a prime minister, sir keir starmer? i'll be asking former minister edwina currie .

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at 10:00, where has he gone? that's my take at ten. but next up, the chairman of marks and spencer has warned that britain risks to attract risks being unable to attract investment if a labour election victory results in an overhaul of workers rights, something currently being considered by the leadership . mr archie norman the leadership. mr archie norman said any incoming government should consider carefully whether a package that reduces flexibility makes it more costly to hire people and seeks to bnng to hire people and seeks to bring unions back into the workplace, will help attract new investment . now, labour's plans investment. now, labour's plans under consideration involve axing zero hours contracts, empowering unions over working conditions and pay disputes, and potentially giving workers full employment rights from day one, with no probation. so is the boss of m&s right to flag up these concerns? could a union loving labour government bankrupt britain? let's get the views of former government minister and ex bbc radio five

live presenter when it was good, edwina currie, edwina should sir keir starmer heed the concerns of the m&s boss? >> oh yes, absolutely. and he's not the only one. they've been having a bit of a charm offensive recently, mark going round , in the city, headed by round, in the city, headed by chuka umunna. do you remember chuka? >>i chuka? >> i do, he was , he was a new >> i do, he was, he was a new laboun >> i do, he was, he was a new labour, a new labour acolyte. >> that's right. well, he's now working for jp morgan >> that's right. well, he's now working forjp morgan , so he's, working forjp morgan, so he's, gone up in the world somewhat and he's been organising citi lunches for some of his friends and for some senior people. now, the problem with the whole of their campaign and their whole of their approach, we can see all around us with the kind of strikes that are still being called by unions representing people very big salaries . you people on very big salaries. you know, the train drivers, for example, and who really don't care about the effect that that has on the public. and they don't about effect that don't care about the effect that has the working class and the

has on the working class and the real people at all. it's real working people at all. it's all complete know all a complete sham. we know what the effect will be if the unions become more powerful, but as archie norman says, and of course, he was a member of parliament at one stage, as well as says the as archie, norman says the effect of giving the workers and the unions more rights is to raise costs. we've already seen huge increases in costs in employment in this country and the outcome of that is inflationary. so that also hurts the weakest in society. most and sooner or later it also affects, well, just about everybody . i well, just about everybody. i mean, the group that i'm particularly concerned about with this actually is not the archie normans and the marks and spencers. the big companies can cope with all it's the cope with all this. it's the effect that it has on small businesses and self—employed people trying to run a little company with maybe 2 or 3 employees, if they can't get rid of somebody incompetent or somebody who's dodgy in some way, then basically that business is wrecked . it doesn't

business is wrecked. it doesn't affect marks and spencer so much, but it does affect the smaller companies. and that, i think, will be the outcome of the various legal changes which labour touting labour have been busy touting around the country and the boardrooms and saying, look, this is what we want to do. isn't it a good idea? no, it's not. we've been there before and it was a wreck last time. it would be a wreck in future. >> but isn't this scaremongering by the conservatives? >> after all, it was the tories who said that the minimum wage would inflationary lead would be inflationary and lead to unemployment. neither happened. >> well, the minimum wage is inflationary. we've just shoved it up. watch what happens to inflation this month . you know inflation this month. you know i trained as an economist. this is my forecast mark. it will go up this month. and it also in the moment you start to have rules and to make it much harder to employ people for what they're worth. then you're going to find that your productivity goes down, your costs go up. and we continue to be a country of low

growth. we really need to encourage investment . we need to encourage investment. we need to raise our game in a much better way. and we need to do that by being as flexible as possible, not as rigid as possible. >> labour wants to axe zero hours contracts. surely that's a good thing. they're immoral, aren't they? with people, with families not shoring, not sure how much work is going to be coming in every day and every week, but that shoots a lot of people . people. >> that actually shoots a lot of people. it suits students. for example , it suits all sorts of example, it suits all sorts of people who perhaps want to work part time, who may want to be available at certain times, but not at other times. not available at other times. people have other caring people who have other caring responsibilities , cities, to responsibilities, cities, to say, do this . first of say, you can't do this. first of all, it's an erosion of our freedoms. and i think people should be cross about that. but secondly, it and the freedoms include those of people trying to run small businesses who may want to open longer hours over christmas, for example, or in the summer if they're seasonal

and who don't want to be stuck in permanent arrangements where they're having to, you know , they're having to, you know, think about who they're hiring and firing. you know, france has much stricter rules about employment than we have. and one of the outcomes of that is it's very difficult to run a business in france because it's almost impossible to sack anybody. and the outcome of that is they don't get the inward investment that we have become accustomed to, particularly back in the glory days of margaret thatcher, when she loosened up a lot of this. liz truss used to talk about supply side reforms . she about supply side reforms. she didn't have time to do but didn't have time to do any. but actually making it easier to employ people and easier to fire them if they're no good and easier to employ them on the arms , on the hours that the arms, on the hours that the business needs. and also reminding businesses if you don't look after your workforce, they're not going to look after you. they're not going be you. they're not going to be there you need them. that there when you need them. that is of freedom that i is the kind of freedom that i think should be for. think we should be aiming for. it's a much more successful

outcome in the long run . outcome in the long run. >> course, investment in >> and of course, investment in france lower. the uk has just france is lower. the uk has just leapfrogged a leapfrogged france in relation to manufacture , and in relation to manufacture, and unemployment is far higher in france well. edwina, stay france as well. edwina, stay with us. let's bring in my top pundits. emma webb , neil parish pundits. emma webb, neil parish and nigel nelson , nigel, why and nigel nelson, nigel, why would you empower the unions , would you empower the unions, given that even under this current conservative government they have wrought chaos? >> well, i mean, workers are entitled to a bit to collective bargaining and organised labour. and what we get every time that someone suggests more rights for workers , you get fat cat workers, you get fat cat business leaders squinting about the cost of it. it won't work. you mentioned mark the way they behaved over minimum wage and the cbi were against it until until 1995, until they eventually came on board. the minimum wage has worked perfectly. it's not stymied growth. it's not caused problems, problems. as far as

the extra costs go and the kind of things that are being proposed here are just basic common sense. i mean, higher and refire is a disgrace. let's get rid of it. zero hours contracts can still work . all it means is can still work. all it means is you will have some minimum guaranteed hours. so you know you've got some income coming in. >> emma webb, are zero hours contracts immoral ? contracts immoral? >> do you think that workers rights need a boost ? rights need a boost? >> no. zero hours contracts are not immoral. in fact, i've been on zero hours contracts. i think that they're great for those. for whom it these contracts work. of course it could be a problem if you're only on a zero hours contract, but like edwina said, this is limiting people's freedom. it's. i actually think that getting rid of zero hours contract, getting get rid of zero hours contracts would be immoral because it would be limiting the freedom of the workers to take on the kind of workers to take on the kind of work that they want to do and have that level of flexibility, and particularly as we're seeing

the economy change with more people working from home, more people working from home, more people working from home, more people working remotely and taking different kinds of taking on different kinds of more flexible roles, possibly freelancing and taking on different kinds of contracts that can actually be much more economically beneficial. and so why should the government have the ability to tell employees what sorts of contracts they're allowed to enter into an agreement with an employer over or with with a company? i think that, actually completely i think the opposite of what nigel said there. i think that , that said there. i think that, that this is going to hamstring businesses at a time when they really need the government's support , and yes, of course, support, and yes, of course, it's important for people to have stable working environments, but and of course, i'm sure that there are all sorts of employment contracts can be abused by bad faith actors , but i just simply think actors, but i just simply think it's wrong to try to limit people's flexibility in that way. >> what about neil parish workers having full rights from

day one? another idea being considered by labour that would mean no probation. that would be a problem on your farm, wouldn't it? if you've just employed someone that's never seen a cow before? >> yeah. i mean, ijust before? >> yeah. i mean, i just can't understand this. i mean, i think now it's sort of two years. you could cut that back perhaps to one that one year. but the idea that there's no probationary period is madness. and also they're saying that you can't necessarily contact that employer. that employee out of work hours. well, you can imagine how that would work on a farm. you know, the cattle have got out, you know, fields under water or whatever, and you can't call your worker. now, i'm probably exaggerating where they'll take it, but i think, you see, i mean, i spent time in the european parliament. i mean, france is a socialist state. it always has been and always will be. whether you've got a so—called conservative or a socialist government. so we the last place we want to do is go there because, you know, not only have there too many rights for the workers, you then don't

employ somebody. then when you've employee, they you've got an employee, they spend the rest of their lives, as far as i can see. then employing lawyers to argue employment perhaps it's employment law, perhaps it's good for the lawyers, but it's not good for france, for the french worker is more productive than a british worker. yeah, because there's fewer of them, and what do we actually want? and so what do we actually want? i do want greater i mean, we do want greater productivity, but we also want as people employed as as many people employed as possible. so the flexibility in the employment market is essential. and also, like i said, this idea of no probationary period for a worker, there will be probation, probation, probation will stay. >> yeah . >> yeah. >> yeah. >> well, i mean let's see what let's see what labour brings in. devil's in the detail. labour is being very, very coy and cautious. but of course, once they into power and they get into power and especially if they win a big result, a big majority , then we result, a big majority, then we are in for trouble. nigel. the unions back. >> nigel and edwina, let's play the ten second game because i've got my mark meets guest waiting in so very briefly in the wings. so very briefly

wrapping your thoughts, wrapping up your thoughts, nigel nelson edwina. nelson before i go to edwina. >> worker, worker rights won't harm. productivity won't. won't harm. productivity won't. won't harm and the benefit harm the economy and the benefit to individuals. >> you know what you should be the leader of the labour party. very persuasive. nigel edwina, are you persuaded by nigel's comments ? comments? >> my comment to nigel is you wish. you wish . there's no point wish. you wish. there's no point in having improved rights if you're not actually going to have some effect. and the effect is to be a very bad one is going to be a very bad one for the rest of us. >> edwina, we always love having you the show. up soon. you on the show. catch up soon. my former government my thanks to former government minister live presenter minister and five live presenter edwina lots more to get edwina currie. lots more to get through. don't forget, i'll be discussing huw edwards at 10:00. where's he gone? i've got some shocking revelations . but next shocking revelations. but next up, on the eve of the 35th anniversary of the hillsborough tragedy, will the 97 victims ever get justice? i'll be speaking to a

next. where is huw edwards? that's my take at 10 in 10 minutes time. but it's time now for mark meets. and tomorrow sees the 35th anniversary of one of the greatest tragedies in british history , the hillsborough history, the hillsborough disaster, in which a fatal crowd crush , happened at an fa cup crush, happened at an fa cup semi—final match between liverpool and nottingham forest. it saw 97 deaths and 766 injuries to remember this truly dark day, and reflects on whether the families of those victims will ever see justice. i'm privileged to welcome one of the survivors from that day, the chairman of the hillsborough survivors support alliance, peter scarf. peter, thank you so much for joining peter scarf. peter, thank you so much forjoining me. can you much for joining me. can you remember what the atmosphere was like on match day before things went horribly wrong? >> yes, of course it was a sunny day, the obvious . obviously day, the obvious. obviously liverpool fans were excited

about , facing nottingham forest. about, facing nottingham forest. we were expecting to win and to move on to the final and make get to wembley. so i'd say weather was on our side. everything seemed to be on our side at the time. we were flying as a football club. >> when did you first realise on the day that there was a problem and that things were on the turn ? >> when we arrived at 7 >> when we arrived at the, we got off the coach and we arrived at the leppings lane end and just seeing this huge crowd of people trying to get into the stadium and only a few turnstiles . turnstiles. >> and what happened to you? did you observe what happened? were you observe what happened? were you injured , not too physically you injured, not too physically injured. i had bruising, bruised ribs, i had a bruise on my wrist, the shape of my watch for quite some time , but, yeah. quite some time, but, yeah. emotional scars, more than anything . anything. >> and tell me about the lies, slurs and mythology that

surrounds what happened 35 years ago. this tragedy has been misreported , presented so often, misreported, presented so often, hasn't it ? hasn't it? >> yeah. of course, the, the lies that were peddled and continue to be peddled on the likes of social media, i still hear to this day, i mean, obviously it's everything from murderers. a robbing the dead, urinating on police officers , urinating on police officers, turning up drunk and ticketless. i still have my full ticket, including it still, because it was never checked. and obviously everyone knows the gate was opened and we were we were sent through there . through there. >> peter, what would justice look like for the victims and their families ? their families? >> somebody being found accountable for the deaths of 97 who were unlawfully killed, the injuries that so many people sustained and of course, the

mental scars that we continue to carry ourselves with. >> of course, you tell me what you've been through. how has it impacted the rest of your life? peter what you witnessed that day, what what have you been through ? through? >> well, it it changed my life completely. was a i was only completely. i was a i was only 20 years of age at the time . and 20 years of age at the time. and of course, that's the time when your life is supposed to change anyway, where you become a man and you, you know, obviously employment and so on. and so forth. family. i found it difficult to i couldn't even stay with the girl i was with. my relationship broke down straight away and then trying to settle down later , it took me settle down later, it took me several years before i could settle with somebody and, it was just so much, so much impact on on myself. it changed me completely. i was, you know, easy going lads. and i tried to continue the way i was, but i was literally burying my head in the sand .

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gb news. >> good evening. it's10:00 on television. on radio and online. in the united kingdom and across the world. this is mark dolan tonight night. whatever happened to huw edwards and why the bbc still paying him half £1 million a year? i'll be breaking the conspiracy of silence around one of the corporation's biggest stars. what's going on? as rishi sunak battles to save his rwanda plan is leaving the echr. the new brexit. and should the pm embrace the right of his party and bring back liz truss, suella braverman and boris johnson? plus tomorrow's papers at 1030 sharp with full pundit reaction .

sharp with full pundit reaction. a very busy show, lots to get through huw edwards next, but first, the news headlines with a proper aaron proper newsreader. aaron armstrong . armstrong. >> thank you mark, i'm aaron armstrong in the gb newsroom. israel will respond to iran's attack last night, but no final decisions have been made about how and when prime minister benjamin netanyahu chaired a meeting of his war cabinet earlier. the majority agree on the need for a response to iran's drone assault, but they're split on the scale and they're split on the scale and the timing of it. world leaders, including lord cameron, have condemned the attack. they say iran risks provoking an uncontrollable regional escalation, and they say g7 nafions escalation, and they say g7 nations stand ready to take further measures . tehran, further measures. tehran, however, has warned israel any retaliation will be met with a stronger response. the un secretary general, antonio guterres, has told members of the security council civilians are paying the highest price and now is the time to de—escalate.

>> the middle east is on the brink. the people of the region are confronting a real danger of are confronting a real danger of a devastating , full scale a devastating, full scale conflict. now is the time to defuse and de—escalate . now is defuse and de—escalate. now is the time for maximum restraint . the time for maximum restraint. >> rishi sunak earlier revealed raf planes took part in a number of counter drone strikes overnight. he says hadera had been successful. the fallout for regional stability would be hard to overstate. israel has urged its allies to proscribe iran's revolutionary guard as a terrorist group , revolutionary guard as a terrorist group, and revolutionary guard as a terrorist group , and shadow terrorist group, and shadow foreign secretary david lammy says the government should act. >> this highlights once again the extreme danger of the irgc and the iranian guard , and we and the iranian guard, and we have said that we think that it should be prescribed and it is for the government to come forward with new plans to

prescribe them and to deal with this issue of state actors that would behave in this appalling way, that wreaks terror on a wider community. >> more than 120,000 people have crossed the english channel by small boats since 2018, 219 arrivals were recorded by the home office yesterday . the total home office yesterday. the total for this year is now 17% higher than the same period last year. labour shadow immigration minister stephen kinnock called it another grim milestone and says britain must strengthen its border security . a cabinet border security. a cabinet minister has insisted the government's rwanda plan is on track, with flights due to take off within weeks . health off within weeks. health secretary victoria atkins says the home office is, quote, ready to go, despite the troubled bill still making its way through parliament. no airline has been named to transport the asylum seekers after rwanda state owned carrier turned down her request. the prime minister has repeatedly said the flights would take off by spring,

although no have been set although no dates have been set and more than 250 survivors of the 2017 manchester arena bombing are taking legal action against m15 . lawyers against m15. lawyers representing injured survivors of the attack that killed 22 people say they've submitted a group claim . an inquiry found group claim. an inquiry found the bombing might have been prevented if m15 had acted on intelligence received in the months leading up to the attack. mi5 months leading up to the attack. m15 director general ken mccallum has previously expressed deep regret that it was unable to stop the suicide bomber. salman abedi , and m15 bomber. salman abedi, and m15 said it won't be commenting on ongoing legal proceedings. said it won't be commenting on ongoing legal proceedings . you ongoing legal proceedings. you can sign up to gb news alerts for more on all of our stories. scan the qr code that you can see right now on our website has more now it's to . mark. >> welcome to a busy mark dolan

tonight as rishi sunak battles to save his rwanda plan is leaving the echr the new brexit, i'll be asking tonight's newsmaker , the formidable ann newsmaker, the formidable ann widdecombe. also, should the prime minister embrace the right of his party and bring back liz truss, suella braverman and bofis truss, suella braverman and boris johnson, we'll discuss that in the last word with liz truss favourite policy guru reacting to the big stories of the day. my top pundits this evening for ringside action we have emma webb, neil parish and nigel nelson. they'll also be reacting to tomorrow's newspaper front pages at 1030 sharp a packed hour. ann widdecombe waiting in the wings, the papers on their way. but first my take at ten. are. there are so many people that i miss watching on tv. cilla black. do you remember the amazing cilla black? wasn't

she fantastic ? surprise, she fantastic? surprise, surprise, blind date, morecambe and wise . what a double act. and wise. what a double act. terry wogan , pure broadcasting terry wogan, pure broadcasting genius paul daniels. what an entertainer with his magic tncks entertainer with his magic tricks , cards and making things tricks, cards and making things disappear. amazing what about huw edwards? do you remember him 7 huw edwards? do you remember him ? the bbc 10:00 news election coverage, queen's funeral, gravitas, charm, wit and warmth. is he on holiday? where is he? has he gone backpacking back sack and crack? well, to according a cracking piece of journalism by the sun newspaper, he certainly hasn't been sent packing by the bbc. far from it. the paper reports that even though huw edwards has been absent from our screens for the best part of nine months, he's still being paid almost half £1 million a year, which likely makes him the highest paid newsreader at the bbc. so even my basic mathematics will

confirm that this calm under pressure news anchor has pulled in at least a quarter of £1 million since being off air. nice work if you can get it. and who cares? it's money. no object at the national state broadcaster because it's not their money they're spending. it's yours and mine. so where is the lesser spotted huw edwards well, the sun newspaper think they've tracked him down. they report that the silver haired newsman is now living with his mother in scenic carmarthenshire . mummy knows best the bbc's handung . mummy knows best the bbc's handling of the initial huw edwards drama, in which it was alleged he paid £35,000 to a vulnerable young person in exchange for explicit images, was disastrous . exchange for explicit images, was disastrous. i exchange for explicit images, was disastrous . i called it out was disastrous. i called it out at the time. i think huw edwards featured in 3 or 4 take at ten monologues in a short period of time. that's something of a record, but probably not a record, but probably not a record you want to achieve .

record you want to achieve. here's what i said about the huw edwards story in july of last yeah edwards story in july of last year. i'm one of those people that if you say that i can't talk about something, that's the thing that i'm going to talk about. if you say, look away , about. if you say, look away, nothing to see here, that's the first place i will look , which first place i will look, which is why i won't move on from the huw edwards scandal, which is, of course, the great wish of the powerful figures in the media elite who are clearly worried about such an establishment figure falling. they are circling the wagons to protect their own . huw edwards is not their own. huw edwards is not their own. huw edwards is not the victim here. until these allegations are denied and proved to be untrue , the status proved to be untrue, the status of victimhood exists only for the young person whose drug habit allegedly, allegedly , lee habit allegedly, allegedly, lee edwards bankrolled with licence fee cash . what about that tan, fee cash. what about that tan, by the way ? well, my comments by the way? well, my comments haven't aged too badly since then. haven't aged too badly since then . the bbc apologised to the

then. the bbc apologised to the parents of the young person allegedly involved and have promised to review their procedures. the parents don't seem to impressed with the apology, though. the person's mother told the sun we have suffered immense pain. she said. if the bbc had handled the complaint properly, they would not have had to go through this hell. now, whilst i wish mr edwards a speedy recovery from any mental health issues he's going through, i mean, i'll be honest, a quarter of £1 million in nine months would set me right this won't stop me discussing what looks to be a growing scandal at the nation's state broadcaster . his posh state broadcaster. his posh mates in the media would like to move on, but this man has been the face of the bbc's news operation , and he's paid a small operation, and he's paid a small fortune, courtesy of the licence fee. another word for tax, which hard up grannies risk jail for not paying . so the establishment not paying. so the establishment didn't want to. and don't want to tackle the story. but i'm

more than happy to. after all, i want to make sure that the british taxpayer gets value for money and huw edwards making a quarter of £1 million to sit at home twiddling his thumbs does not sound like value to me . now, not sound like value to me. now, of course, the reason he's still on gardening leave and getting his hands dirty with those green fingers of his his is because the bbc is still conducting an internal probe. it's been nine months. the parents have complained the bbc have apologised. edwards hasn't explicitly denied anything. how much probing do you need to do this isn't the bloody watergate scandal now i don't have a view as to whether edwards should be back on the bbc or not, and he could be innocent of all allegations, no problem. but either way, how long is he going to sit there at taxpayers expense, doing crossword puzzles and working in his mother's garden ? i've heard he likes garden? i've heard he likes a good sized parsnip . this is an

good sized parsnip. this is an ongoing embarrassment for the bbc, and a bizarre disappearing act that would have even paul daniels blushing . your reaction? daniels blushing. your reaction? get your views in gbnews.com forward. slash your say. i'll get to your thoughts shortly. but first, my top pundits, writer and broadcaster emma webb, former tory mp and farmer neil parish and gb news senior political commentator nigel nelson. now the debate here emma webb is the fact that a quarter of £1 million is being paid to essentially a kind of public state employee who hasn't done a stroke of work. i think this is a problem, and i think this debate is in the national interest. >> i, i would be much more angry about this if i were a licence payen about this if i were a licence payer, i think, of course , it's payer, i think, of course, it's an awful lot of money for somebody who's not doing their job, but at the same time, it is

obviously procedure to keep somebody on their salary while they're doing the internal probe. agree with you that probe. i agree with you that this, investigation they're this, investigation that they're doing taking so doing shouldn't be taking so long. i was actually, stunned to be reminded there that we were talking about this last july. that's how long has been that's how long this has been going for, ultimately, going on for, but ultimately, i think, know , under the think, you know, under the circumstances, not particularly strange that he might go and move in back with his family, but , yeah, i move in back with his family, but, yeah, i mean, if you were a licence fee payer, you wouldn't be too happy to know that this was how your money was being spent. >> but also, emma, how long does it to do inquiry ? it take to do an inquiry? >> how long is >> well, it's. how long is a piece of string , i mean, i don't piece of string, i mean, i don't see i would like to know exactly what it is that they're looking into that's taking so long, but i'm not sure how interested people are in this. >> yeah, well, i think that i'm interested because it's a lot of money. nigel nelson i don't know why the bbc are taking so long to investigate this. what's your view? >> well, i mean, what the bbc

say is that they need to talk to huw edwards about it, that we know that the police have ruled out any kind of criminal charges. so he's done nothing wrong as far as the law is concerned. what you need is a is an internal investigation by the bbc that has no particular time limit any more than a suspension has a legal time limit where i think we all agree is that it is taking rather too long and so it's something that the bbc ought to get wrapped up, but it does. at the end of the day, he should be paid his salary. it's not the amount of money he just should be paid his salary while he is suspended , until the bbc he is suspended, until the bbc have decided what to do with him. now neil, if this chap, huw edwards has got mental health issues, i understand that when the story broke, he was actually being treated for some kind of mental condition and we wish him well and a speedy recovery. >> mental health is a serious issue too, but what is also a serious issue is massive of

waste at the bbc, and i think this story reflects very badly on them. why do they need nine months to talk to huw edwards? this is a guy that's used to seven minute interviews. >> i think, mark, we don't know, do we? the mental state of hugh huw edwards at the moment. and i think, you know, while i absolutely agree with you, the huge amount of money he's being paid and why he's still on full salary, i really don't know. i think the problem is, i suspect that his mental state and his health and i think the bbc, you know, have got to try and bring it to fruition , but i imagine it to fruition, but i imagine it's very much interviewing hugh and being sure that he's able to, to have that interview. but what i can't understand is why so much, you know, so much money that the bbc that, as you rightly say, is being paid by by licence payers, many who perhaps

come ill afford it. why, that money, you know, is being is so much money is going to him. and i think that's got what's got to be reviewed because like i said, we ourselves don't know in what state huw edwards is at the moment. so i think we've got to be careful as far as that's concerned. but i think the amount of money he's being paid , amount of money he's being paid, surely that doesn't go on forever. and i would have thought under employment law, he would be, you know, that that amount of money would be cut back quite a lot by now. and i think that is where the issue is. and then let's hope that huw edwards recovers and the bbc gets on with that inquiry and bnngs gets on with that inquiry and brings this, you know, to fruition, but like i said, in the meantime, i think we have got to be conscious that we are deaung got to be conscious that we are dealing with somebody who is quite fragile . quite fragile. >> scrap the licence fee. that's what it's really about. yeah. >> what it makes you say that, emma? >> well, i think as neil said, there are lots of people who may

be struggling to afford the licence fee and they might not even be watching the bbc. so i think that the, the model of the bbc relying these licenses bbc relying on these licenses in the not the first place, is not a sustainable for them. and sustainable model for them. and that's going to have to change at some point. and so, ultimately the of your ultimately the crux of your argument that that this is argument is that that this is money that people are effectively forced to pay, effectively being forced to pay, that on this that is going on this extraordinarily large salary that he's getting while on gardening leave. and what that really boils down to is the injustice of people being even so far as taken court for not so far as taken to court for not paying so far as taken to court for not paying something that they're forced to pay for a product that they might not even be using. well, indeed. >> is taking so >> listen, this is taking so long. i think it's a joke. it's a mockery to all the taxpayers out there. and the licence fee is a tax because to pay is a tax because you have to pay it you want to watch it if you want to watch television. people might it if you want to watch telethis n. people might it if you want to watch telethis is people might it if you want to watch telethis is a people might it if you want to watch telethis is a non—story. might it if you want to watch telethis is a non—story. well,t say this is a non—story. well, i don't agree because if your money is being wasted, then in my book that's a major story. and i will chase it and i will chase it hard and we'll keep an eye on the huw edwards situation. your situation. let me know your thoughts. up , as rishi

thoughts. but next up, as rishi sunak battles to save his rwanda plan is leaving the echr the new brexit, i'll be asking tonight's newsmaker and widikum .

next. where is huw edwards and why is it taking the bbc so long to tackle those allegations around him? it's been almost nine months now, and that's the best part of £350,000. as one of my brilliant viewers pointed out , brilliant viewers pointed out, it's well over a quarter of £1 million for doing nothing . gb million for doing nothing. gb news, forward slash your gbnews.com/yoursay is the brand new way of messaging the show, we've got andrew who says, i understand that if he's off sick with mental health issues, he can't be fired, how about this, let's have a look, look, look,

look. nine months of internal probing , says michael. i bet probing, says michael. i bet he's having the time of his life. some tory mps would pay good money for this. can't imagine what mean by that, imagine what you mean by that, michael. you cannot sack someone whilst under a sick whilst they are under a sick note, says spike, and it was pete who said half a million a yeah pete who said half a million a year. nine months of that is £375,000. there you go. i'm glad i'm not an accountant. thank you very much for that. okay, folks, lots more to come . papers on the lots more to come. papers on the way at 1030. but rishi sunak has hit out at the complete overreach of an illegitimate ruling by the european court of human rights that imposes a duty on governments to achieve net zero. the intervention from downing street comes ahead of a final round of votes on the rwanda bill, which could pass by the end of this week, allowing the end of this week, allowing the government to press ahead with for deportation with plans for deportation flights. however there are fears that long awaited flights that the long awaited flights could thwarted by judges could yet be thwarted by judges in strasbourg. mr sunak's comments will fuel speculation that he's considering including

an unprecedented pledge in the tory party manifesto to pull out of the echr, with sources telling the telegraph newspaper that this has not been ruled out. so is leaving the echr the new brexit? and should rishi sunak make it his flagship policy going into the next election ? to debate this, i'm election? to debate this, i'm delighted to welcome my former government minister, very good friend of mine, television personality and of course newsmaker for this evening, ann widdecombe. hello, ann. good evening you . hi. and you, you evening to you. hi. and you, you wanted us out of the european union. do you want us out of this european court as well? would you unilaterally remove of the uk from this structure with immediate effects? >> of course. i mean, you can tell there's a general election coming, quite suddenly. rishi sunak , who could have taken this sunak, who could have taken this action, when we had the very first row and a ruling, and suddenly discovers, that he would like to pull us out of the

echr. well, what's he been waiting so long for? answer. to put it in a manifesto to look good. but then they put brexit in their manifesto and where did that get us? >> and the echr was formed in part by british judges and politicians in the aftermath of the second world war, and to prevent another adolf hitler. do we really want to disown such an organisation ? organisation? >> yes, we do want to disown it, because just like the geneva convention on asylum, which was 1951, it was designed for a completely different purpose for what it's now being used for , what it's now being used for, and i think rishi sunak is right, but i wouldn't trust him to do it because, as i say , he to do it because, as i say, he could have done it when we got the first rwanda rule . the first rwanda rule. >> if britain ditches the echr, will it destroy our reputation as a country? and as that way on your mind? >> oh, look, when you actually

look at echr rulings, we've got one of the best records of actually implementing them. other countries treated as advisory, which indeed it is. and they just don't implement the rulings. now, we could do that. or we could be simply honest and say, enough, we're coming out. but i don't think it will damage our reputation at all. what might is , get a all. what it might do is, get a bit of focus on the part of echr as to what his role actually is, and we might seek some international agreement on that. >> and the mood music suggests that flights to rwanda could happenin that flights to rwanda could happen in the weeks ahead . are happen in the weeks ahead. are you holding your breath? >> no. >> no. >> he's very dangerous to hold my breath, the fact is that we've been promised this now so often. and for so long. i will believe it when i actually see it when the first flight leaves for luanda. and assuming it's got more than a couple of people on board, you know, when a serious flight leaves for rwanda, then i will believe it. but i still say, even if that

does happen and i support it if it does happen, he has spent two years with no plan b during which time our shores have been invaded. there's no other way to put it, by illegal migrants and would reform uk adopt the rwanda plan? >> or is it your view that it's an expensive white elephant? is it intrinsically flawed ? it intrinsically flawed? >> oh, i don't think it's intrinsically flawed, but i think it is limited, and what reform have made very clear is we're not going to rely just on rwanda. absolutely not. we are going to detain in secure accommodation all new asylum seekers , so that we know where seekers, so that we know where they are. they can't disappear into the underground. >> that sounds like a prison . >> that sounds like a prison. >> that sounds like a prison. >> it isn't a prison, but it is a secure reception . a secure reception. >> what's the difference? >> what's the difference? >> oh, well, i mean, can they go for a walk? >> can they go to pret a manger? >> can they go to pret a manger? >> oh, tight. oh, tight, we've

already had, believe it or not, secure centres. they secure reception centres. they were there in my time, and they were there in my time, and they were used as they were even called detention centres. but they were not the same as prisons. families work together for example. children were getting proper education. it was a completely different situation. the only analogy with prison is you can't leave . prison is you can't leave. >> and last but not least, a life size statue created in the memory of the late great south end west mp sir david amess has been unveiled. sir david, who was a legendary , beloved local was a legendary, beloved local mp, a highly esteemed parliamentarian , was fatally parliamentarian, was fatally stabbed in his constituency in october of 2021. i understand you were in attendance . tell me you were in attendance. tell me about the statue. was it and is it a fitting tribute? >> oh, the statue is a tremendous tribute to david, the sculptor has got his expression . sculptor has got his expression. exactly. i mean, all of us who looked at it when it had been unveiled said, yes, that's david, and i think it's a good

memorial to him. and his life lives on, and we forget about the man who who cut short his life and brought so much distress on that. >> we can agree. and what a treat. i wish we had longer. we'll catch you in a week's time. my thanks to former government minister, author and television personality ann widdecombe, next up, tomorrow's newspaper front pages with full pundh newspaper front pages with full pundit reaction . plus, in an pundit reaction. plus, in an exclusive mark dolan tonight people's poll, we've been asking as rishi sunak battles to save his rwanda plan is leaving the echr the new brexit. while the results are in, i shall reveal all .

next. you say well, in an exclusive mark dolan tonight people's poll, we've been asking as rishi sunak battles to save his rwanda plan is leaving the echr. the

new brexit. well, the results are in. and how about that? 85% say yes and less than 15% say no. that'll be a landslide . it no. that'll be a landslide. it is 1030. so time for this. papers. and listen. ask where should we start? it looks like we've got the i newspaper or the guardian. we go with the guardian. we go with the guardian. okay let's get the guardian, please. and, here is the headline as the guardian's headline as i shuffle the pack. warning as shuffle the pack. us warning as israel weighs up response to iran's attack . the i newspaper iran's attack. the i newspaper next. iran risks an uncontrollable wider war with israel attacks g7 nations warn the metro reign of terror. hundreds of missiles are fired in huge night time revenge raid at times now and israel vows revenge as the world calls for

calm. also, britain may try to send migrants to costa rica and get more on that story in just a moment. daily. where we go next, the mail. we've got the mail, it's the mail. we've got the mail, wsfime the mail. we've got the mail, it's time the world evil it's time the world faces evil empire in tehran. it's time the world faces evil empire in tehran . and last but empire in tehran. and last but not least, the daily star. reassuring vow from tycoon who plans to rebuild the doomed ship . we'll add a few more lifeboats on the new titanic . that's on the new titanic. that's right. the mega millionaire who plans on rebuilding the titanic has come up with a brainwave. lifeboats give that man a medal. say the daily star. well, three people that deserve medals on my top pundits tonight. i'm delighted to welcome the political commentator emma webb, former conservative mp and farmer neil parish and gb news senior political commentator nigel nelson. and really, it's the only story in town, nigel

nelson. and it's israel's next steps following the attack by iran last night. this is an issue for israel for and the western world. yeah, absolutely. >> and one rather hopes that they don't take a next step. and that seems to be what everyone is urging. i mean, what happened last night ? is urging. i mean, what happened last night? it was a bit like that fight scene in bridget jones colin firth and jones between colin firth and hugh grant, that a lot of punches were thrown, but not a huge amount of damage was done . huge amount of damage was done. yeah, iran says that's the end of it. whether we believe them or not, we don't know. but that's what they say. it'd be quite good if it was the end of it that they they've saved face, that which they had to that they've, which they had to do after the attack on the damascus consulate , if that is damascus consulate, if that is the end of it, that would be great. i mean , israel say no, great. i mean, israel say no, they'll do something at the at they'll do something at the at the time of their choosing, but let's hope not. >> do you think neil parish, the intervention of joe biden, the president united states, president of the united states, is significant ? what he's been

is significant? what he's been saying the israeli prime saying to the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu take the which he means the win, by which he means you've defended yourself successfully. don't react. >> i think that is the answer, because i think what i think the iranians are doing is they're it's basically that was pin pricking yesterday, they could have, you know, they could have used missiles, many more missiles than they had. they used a lot of drones, which they knew hopefully . and thank knew hopefully. and thank goodness they had a good goodness they had such a good shield. they shield. the israelis, and they shot most of it down, helped the americans, ourselves and everybody. you've americans, ourselves and eve to ody. you've americans, ourselves and eve to be '. you've americans, ourselves and eve to be careful you've americans, ourselves and eve to be careful are you've americans, ourselves and eve to be careful are the 've got to be careful of are the iranians playing this game. if we, the israelis we, irritate the israelis enough, they will then attack us substantially. and then we've got the excuse to go to war. yeah. and i think this is what you've got to be careful of. and i think if we're not careful, the iranians are playing a very clever game here. the trouble with netanyahu is that he was

caught with his trousers down, basically with the security situation, when the horrendous attack by hamas on on the israelis. and so i think, you see, he he now has to prove to be the biggest, hardest man even be the biggest, hardest man ever. and the problem is, i think he could create a total war in the middle east if you're not careful . and so i think, not careful. and so i think, i think the iranians are say, right, okay. if we keep prodding him, let's see what he'll do. and i think it's very dangerous. and i think it's very dangerous. and so therefore, i think the americans ourselves, the french, everybody , we have got to try everybody, we have got to try and say to the israelis, we very much support you. we very much want you to be able to defend yourself . but just be careful, yourself. but just be careful, because think this could be because i think this could be very, very serious. and i think if we're not careful, the iranians may be playing the more clever game here if we're not careful . careful. >> and benjamin netanyahu, the israeli prime minister, emma woolf , is a controversial israeli prime minister, emma woolf, is a controversial and divisive figure . is he the

divisive figure. is he the problem or the solution? right now ? now? >> i think that's almost besides the point. obviously, israel does have its internal politics that are also playing into this . that are also playing into this. many people are not happy with netanyahu, not happy with his leadership, but i think that i mean, you're right in the sense that new iran could have taken the literal nuclear option. they have enough enriched uranium to do that . i think what they want do that. i think what they want to do is to turn is to turn israel's allies against israel. israel's allies against israel. israel hasn't been doing so well in the pr war recently, and so it is actually a very careful balance to strike where you need the west and israel's allies to show enough force to deter aggression, which is what we didn't do with russia soon enough, but also to not show too much offensive action in such that we allow it to escalate. so it's a very, very difficult balance to strike, i think. and so ultimately, i think actually that that bigger picture is much more important than netanyahu's

specific leadership in this obviously , israel has a right to obviously, israel has a right to defend itself, and it must defend itself, and it must defend itself, and it must defend itself , but it's i defend itself, and it must defend itself, but it's i think you have to see this in in the larger geopolitical context when we're thinking about the sort of ultimate consequences of this in terms of regional escalation , i terms of regional escalation, i think, emma, you're right. >> but i think the problem is that netanyahu is kept in power by some very tough, you know, right wing religious groups in the cabinet. and i think you'll find that they will want an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. and i think this is the problem. and i think if they're not careful, the israelis , like not careful, the israelis, like i said, the iranians are playing the israelis to start the war. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> all the all the other way round. i mean, there's a danger that israel wants to actually they iran's been a thorn in their side for a long time. israel may want this. it was a very odd thing to do to go and strike the consulate in damascus, which is sovereign territory and was almost certain

to provoke a an attack by by iran. >> a supporter of israel. and even! >> a supporter of israel. and even i thought that was a it was just odd. >> so i mean, israel might be thinking, look, we wanted to take out iran for ages. we know that if we do it now, the west will support mean, america will support us. i mean, america will support us. i mean, america will they're will come on board. they're saying take part a saying they won't take part in a counteroffensive. they would take a scale take part in a full scale war. well and also they would take part anything that would part in anything that would defend as well. defend israel as well. >> and think, know, >> yeah. and i think, you know, i i think netanyahu, if i think i think netanyahu, if you're not careful, is actually egging it on, and i think this is the danger does he enjoy your confidence? >> do you rate netanyahu? is he a dangerous man? >> i think he's a dangerous man because i think a man who because i think he's a man who has, know, has had so much has, you know, has had so much power in israel for so long, there is a degree of corruption around him. he's the conservative. >> so you might politically and ideologically lean in his direction . but. but is your direction. but. but is your concern to do with his makeup or his politics or both? yeah.

>> i mean, i mean, i, i'm a conservative friend of israel, so therefore i declare my, my interest. but i think, i think netanyahu is doing damage to israel now because i feel that he has, you know, as you quite rightly say, i know it's not a propaganda war, but i mean, the israelis have spent actually lost that because of their scale of what they've done in gaza. >> and i'm a great i actually think that they've lost it because of the vile show of anti—semitism on the streets of london that have threatened a lot of people who would have otherwise into otherwise spoken out into submission, just the submission, just through the sheer every sheer presence of them. every single, weekend. and i think that that has actually had an effect. had effect, i effect. it's had an effect, i think, the think, on even the considerations our government considerations of our government and in the way that people like lord cameron have framed lord david cameron have framed their criticisms. so i think actually , it's not it's that's actually, it's not it's that's not the reason why i think. yeah, but i think it's wider than that because i think, you know, the situation in, in gaza, the restricting of the aid to

the restricting of the aid to the final stages where the palestinians are starving, however much i support israel, i think they have gone too far. >> and i think it's all about netanyahu. that's the problem, not necessarily about israel and the conflict . it's all about the conflict. it's all about saving his political position because he has now to be the hardest man ever. >> of course, nigel, briefly, before we get on to rwanda , how before we get on to rwanda, how far should britain and america go to defend and support israel? >> well, we should certainly defend and support them. it was absolutely right that raf jets were involved last night in shooting down the drones . what shooting down the drones. what we were trying to do is make sure those drones didn't get through cause cause a load of destruction. and that would have led us into war. all that is right. what biden is saying is that they won't join an israeli counter strike. that is right to, anything you can do to dampen this down, that would be

the best way . so whether i'm the best way. so whether i'm right, israel might be provoking it, whether neil's right, iran might be provoking it. we don't want side. want either side. >> about regime change in >> what about regime change in iran, which truly iran, which is a truly reprehensible regime, could that happen? should it happen and should britain help? >> well, i mean, we're then in a situation of a war rather like iraq , gulf situation of a war rather like iraq, gulf war three. yeah, but the whole thing is it would be a lot. we saw the hangover three. it was a lot more difficult. we're talking about a well—armed and, armed forces in and, well—armed armed forces in iran . most nuclear. they've they iran. most nuclear. they've they probably have nuclear, some nuclear weapons, or at least they can develop them. i think they can develop them. i think the wall street journal today said they've got enough enriched uranium for three bombs. yeah so there's the danger of that. you're talking about 800,000 troops, troops and troops, regular troops and reservists. there'll be a much more difficult nut to crack than iran. >> also, friends in beijing and moscow and also in iran. >> the people have been i mean, you've seen it all on social media. the people are not happy

with the regime. there are a lot of people in iran in iran who want regime change. so i think that's something that hopefully , that's something that hopefully, i mean, god, i hope i see it in my lifetime. i would love to see iran topple. >> to very much come >> there has to very much come from within. you can from within. all right. you can put a certain amount of external pressure. the point put a certain amount of external pres�*we've the point put a certain amount of external pres�*we've beene point that we've all all been discussing here there are discussing here is there are some parts of the israeli military and some parts of the government that have been itching to have, i don't think, any forced regime change any kind of forced regime change is on the cards. >> that would just be so hypothetical it's. hypothetical that it's. >> take a look at the >> yes. let's take a look at the times. now. has entered times. now. britain has entered talks the rwanda talks to replicate the rwanda migrant scheme with migrant deportation scheme with armenia, ivory coast, costa rica and botswana, according to leaked documents that reveal the government's extensive search for another third country deal are in the offing . emma, if are in the offing. emma, if rwanda doesn't work, botswana, costa rica i'm sure that the activist lawyers would find a problem with all of those countries, too. >> i mean, it's almost getting a bit silly now. i don't think

does anybody really believe that the flights are going to take off? >> no. >> no. >> what do you think, neil? do you think that, the prime minister could surprise everyone and rwanda happening? and get rwanda happening? >> yet, i still think >> he may yet, but i still think it's outside chance. i mean, it's an outside chance. i mean, i've said before, i i've said this before, but i think , if rwanda doesn't work think, if rwanda doesn't work out, then i think you've got to go back to the drawing board. i think looking for other countries, mean , i think it's countries, i mean, i think it's just too complicated. we just too complicated. i think we should ehrc and should leave the ehrc and i think open our options. and i also think we've got to find more agreements with individual countries with, you know , like countries with, you know, like they with albania and so on. they did with albania and so on. and i think that is a situation. i mean, i think so much political, capital has been expended on this. and i think this is the problem the prime minister's got and the party's got, and i think it's almost insoluble now . but, i mean, insoluble now. but, i mean, there may be some flights that take off, who knows? and we might all be proved to be wrong, but and i suspect not. but and yet i suspect not. >> yet, immigration.

>> and yet, nigel, immigration. illegal immigration stop the boats the tories boats is probably the tories last opportunity to move the dial before the election . dial before the election. >> yeah, they might move it a bit. i mean, still, people don't care about it as much as they care about it as much as they care about it as much as they care about the cost of living crisis and the nhs. those are the come in the things that come top in every poll. yes every in every poll. yes >> can they relate? >> can they relate? >> they dovetail, don't they? the cost of living crisis, the nhs. if you have high levels of legal and illegal immigration that departmental that impacts departmental budgets and also puts pressure on our already creaking infrastructure . infrastructure. >> well, i mean, i'm not sure illegal does legal immigration. it does. >> i mean, illegal immigration is million a year by is costing £7 million a year by way accommodation alone plus way of accommodation alone plus plus on the nhs. plus demands on on the nhs. >> rwanda will cost even >> but rwanda will cost even more. so they're not worried about money. i mean if you, if you rwanda, even you send people to rwanda, even under the original £120 million scheme, could keep one. an scheme, you could keep one. an asylum seeker in a hotel for 12 years for the £600,000 it would cost you to send there. so money is out of it. legal immigration are different. different matter .

are different. different matter. this government's been encouraging it. that's why we are where we are. and the kind of knock on effects are. if, for instance , you stop foreign instance, you stop foreign students coming here, tuition fees for british students will have to go up. so those are the knock on effects that come from legal immigration. okay. >> fascinating debate. well, next up, more of tomorrow's newspaper front pages , including newspaper front pages, including the express and the sun. plus in an exclusive mark dolan tonight people's poll, we've been asking , should rishi sunak embrace the right of his party and bring back liz truss, suella braverman and boris johnson ? the results and boris johnson? the results are in. i shall reveal all. plus, we'll be debating that live on the show with liz truss's favourite policy guru. that's .

next. the results of our latest poll are in. should rishi sunak

embraced the right of his party and bring back liz truss? suella braverman and boris johnson? well, let me tell you that it's another landslide . 77.9% say another landslide. 77.9% say yes. bring back braverman. truss and johnson, 22.1% say no . a and johnson, 22.1% say no. a couple of extra headlines. the front pages hot off the press, courtesy of ben. let's have a look. we've got the express and they lead with pm calls for calm heads to prevail after iran drone and missile strikes. world hold its breath. world holds its breath as israel vows to exact a price. and the sun . mullahs price. and the sun. mullahs attack israel raf top guns foil iran blitz and we can be very proud . now it's time for the proud. now it's time for the last word and. and reports suggest the tory party are plotting to elect suella braverman as their next leader, which could open the door for a return to politics for boris johnson . and with liz truss johnson. and with liz truss grabbing the headlines, a tell

all memoir called ten years to save the west should rishi sunak get on the front foot, embrace the right of his party and bring all three into the fold? well, join me to discuss. this is liz truss favourite policy guru, director of the popular conservatives mark littlewood. mark, great to have you on the show, do you think that would be good leadership from rishi sunak to actually co—opt the talents of, in particular, braverman and truss? >> yes. >> yes. >> i mean, you always say a prime minister should embrace all of the talents in their party. in fact, when margaret thatcher began her government went on to be a very successful government. she actually populated her cabinet largely with people who disagreed with her, at least for the first 2 or 3 years of her of her government . so whether he could actually get any of these three to return to high office at this stage , i to high office at this stage, i think is unlikely. to be honest, i'd be very surprised if rishi

sunak did offer cabinet jobs to any of those three. i'd be even more surprised if any of the three them accepted, but three of them accepted, but i think there's a rather more important of leadership important test of leadership than that . which is are you than that. which is are you listening to them? even if they're your cabinet? are they're not in your cabinet? are you listening to senior politicians served in politicians who've served in high office? two of these three have been prime minister suella braverman, of course, has been home and that's what home secretary. and that's what worries me somewhat, that there's bit a bunker there's a bit of a bunker mentality at number 10, and i would hope that he would reach out to those who are echr sceptical. we've just heard your previous discussion, mark, about rwanda and will the flights get off the ground? i'm as sceptical as your panel, but i think that rishi sunak should reach out to those who were saying we'll probably need to the probably need to leave the european human rights european court of human rights if immigration if you want an immigration policy that can actually be functional work . so probably functional and work. so probably for me, i might be in the 22. was it in the poll who said, i've got totally sure they should be back in government, but he should on the blower but he should be on the blower to them pretty regularly. not

just whole just those three, but a whole swathe of other conservatives who slightly out of who seem slightly locked out of the corridors of power at the moment, stay with us, mark littlewood. let's bring in my top pundits tonight. neil parish, nelson and emma parish, nigel nelson and emma webb. and let me ask you, i mean, the point is, mark littlewood, that this is kitchen sink time for rishi sunak. so what is the political equivalent of throwing the kitchen sink at it? what can rishi sunak do in the weeks and months ahead that might move the dial for him and his party? >> yeah, that's a great question and i would have thought it does hinge somewhat on the on the immigration point. he's got to show really clear blue water between him and the labour party. clear, clear differences. i must admit, even as a keen political and economic observer, i sometimes struggle to work out how many cigarette papers there really are between the policies of the conservative and the labour front bench and i would

suggest this that if his rwanda plan doesn't work , and let's see plan doesn't work, and let's see if it does. i haven't completely written it off, but if it doesn't, because it's blocked by the courts, that the conservative pledge conservative party would pledge to european of to exit the european court of human rights, we would withdraw from the convention. i think that would be pretty kitchen sink. mark, if he was willing to take that. there you go. >> emma? >> emma? emma >> emma? emma webb, >> emma? emma webb, what >> emma? emma webb, what do >> emma? emma webb, what do you think is a kitchen sink policy from rishi sunak? he's got nothing to lose. what do you reckon? >> i honestly , i think they >> i honestly, i think they should put their money where their mouth is. and mark very rightly said it would be a good thing for to bring in some thing for him to bring in some of the echr sceptics, think if of the echr sceptics, i think if the plan doesn't work, the rwanda plan doesn't work, which we all know, it isn't going to, it's not just going to, and it's not just that, it's also the recent news this week about the climate ruling, which was frankly, anti—democratic. need to anti—democratic. we need to leave the echr i that is the policy that i think if the conservatives are going to make the best use of the time that they have left, that they should put the absolute top of

put that at the absolute top of their agenda. >> only couple of seconds >> only a couple of seconds left. nelson, what you left. nigel nelson, what do you think policy think a kitchen sink policy might sunak, there might be for? for sunak, there isn't one, i mean, he really is an empty the kitchen is, the kitchen is empty and so is the sink i'm afraid. yeah. i don't think that now there's anything they can do. even tax cuts aren't working a couple of seconds , what would you do if seconds, what would you do if you were still on those tory backbenches? neil i think leaving the echr is probably the right thing, because i think, you know, they tried to line us up with russia, but we have actually have a good courts of our own. actually have a good courts of ourwe n. our judiciary >> we have our own judiciary that independent. so that can also be independent. so therefore we don't actually need that european court , listen, that european court, listen, mark littlewood, lovely to have you on the show, joining for us the last word. we'll catch up soon. have good week. and my soon. have a good week. and my thanks pundits soon. have a good week. and my thanks neil pundits soon. have a good week. and my thanks neil and pundits soon. have a good week. and my thanks neil and nigel.:)undits soon. have a good week. and my thanks neil and nigel. really emma, neil and nigel. really enjoyed your company. i'm back on friday at 8:00 for friday night live. i've got well connected journalist petronella wyatt, football legend tony

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morniracross northern partsy the early hours of monday morniracross northern parts of heavy across northern parts of england. even see england. and we could even see some across the high ground some snow across the high ground of it will be of scotland. and it will be a chilly here. temperatures chilly night here. temperatures dropping single dropping into the low single figures south figures and even in the south around 7 8 degrees. monday around 7 or 8 degrees. monday starts bit chilly, but quite starts a bit chilly, but quite a blustery start to the day. not brisk northwesterly winds help clear that band of rain across the southeast through monday morning, leaving a drier day. there be some sunshine there will be some sunshine around, but some showers quite quickly developing from the northwest. turning wintry northwest. these turning wintry across the high ground of northern scotland. across the high ground of nortiitrn scotland. across the high ground of nortiit will scotland. across the high ground of nortiit will be scotland. across the high ground of nortiit will be a scotland. across the high ground of nortiit will be a much scotland. across the high ground of nortiit will be a much chillierd. and it will be a much chillier day seen over the day than we've seen over the weekend, to reach weekend, struggling to reach much or the south much above 12 or 13 in the south and even struggling to reach double figures in the north. tuesday drier tuesday does start a bit drier for of us, though. there for most of us, though. there will be plenty of sunshine through morning. still, the through the morning. still, the odd 2 showers around across odd 1 or 2 showers around across northern parts northern and western parts and perhaps across perhaps a few bubbling up across eastern england. eastern parts of england. but there of there should be plenty of sunshine around. however, temperatures still close to average . still a few showers average. still a few showers around wednesday around on wednesday and thursday, hints of thursday, but there are hints of something settled later in something more settled later in the temperatures the week and temperatures returning to average. returning closer to average. >> things heating

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gb news. >> very good evening to you. it's 11:00. i'm >> very good evening to you. it's11:00. i'm aaron >> very good evening to you. it's 11:00. i'm aaron armstrong it's11:00. i'm aaron armstrong in the gb newsroom. iran risks provoking an uncontrollable regional escalation. a warning from world leaders following last night's attack on israel. g7 leaders, including lord cameron, have condemned iran's attack and say they stand ready to take further measures. israel says it will exact a price from iran, but its war cabinet is split on the timing and the scale of the response. however, the white house says the us won't take part in any retaliatory strikes and iran has promised to launch a much stronger assault if israel retaliates. the un retaliates. the u n secretary—general, retaliates. the un secretary—general, antonio guterres, has told members of the security council civilians are paying the highest price now is the time to de—escalate .

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