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the trump hush money outside the trump hush money trial , in a outside the trump hush money trial, in a political protest against the establishment leaders around the world. >> call for calm in the middle east after tensions rose following an israeli strike on iran . iran. >> is the british fry up toast generation z, turn their backs on the breakfast classic, deeming it to be too fatty? according to new research. >> and on the eve of the london marathon, we're going to be talking to the family of our very own christopher hope, who are taking part in this year's event. >> good morning. it's fa cup semi—final weekend and the row over fa cup replays is rumbling on, with prime minister rishi sunak and his labour counterpart sir keir starmer having their say. the snooker world championships, meanwhile, gets underway at the crucible in sheffield. for how much sheffield. but for how much longer can the iconic sheffield venue host the event? while saudi circling? we'll have saudi is circling? we'll have more later this hour. >> morning . it's a bright >> good morning. it's a bright but chilly start for many of us
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across the uk. how will the rest of the weekend pan out? well, you can the details you can find all the details with me a little later on. >> good morning, i'm stephen dixon i'm ellie and dixon and i'm ellie costello and this breakfast on . this is breakfast on. gb news. and you know, when honours are given out, i do. yeah. >> unfortunately, i haven't been the recipient. >> no, but i get a bit peeved when it's all people who get get it for services to broadcasting or services to acting or services to politics and all that stuff, because they're basically just doing their job. yeah, right. yes. i think you should get them for doing things that are . and one thing which that are. and one thing which you to say, i don't you always used to say, i don't know if you do, but know if you still do, but police, police, lollipop men and women. were often would get women. yeah were often would get something. and always thought something. and i always thought that's great because they're doing voluntarily. and was doing that voluntarily. and was that not paid position. no i think i think it's voluntary.
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you might correct me from but you know, and people tend to be doing it in their own after they've retired. >> don't realise that. that's >> i don't realise that. that's lovely. mirror lovely. anyway in the mirror this there's this brian this morning, there's this brian andrews morning to you. >> so years old and he >> so he's 86 years old and he is retired after 24 years of doing the job. he used to always greet the children with a joke or a song. apparently this is in, anlaby in east yorkshire. he's been doing it since 2000. he's been doing it since 2000. he's leaving because of health reasons . he said some of the reasons. he said some of the kiddies in the younger years when i started have got children of their own. it's been a pleasure. they've made my life wonderful. they held a special assembly at the school for him. >> lovely is that? >> oh how lovely is that? >> oh how lovely is that? >> and i think that that's the sort of people who should be getting honours and thanks and recognition . a brilliant well recognition. a brilliant well done brian. >> how lovely. and also the >> oh how lovely. and also the fact that can have a whole fact that you can have a whole second career you clearly second career that you clearly love in retirement. love so much in retirement. >> children. oh, >> yeah. helping children. oh, it's it's a really, it's just like it's a really, really nice thing. >> oh, that is lovely. thank you
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for sharing that. that's made me feel happy. >> good. you're a lollipop >> good. if you're a lollipop man love to man or a lollipop lady. love to hear this morning. hear from you this morning. >> gbnews.com/yoursay. do >> yeah. gbnews.com/yoursay. do get touch now. get in touch now. >> our main news today is about the metropolitan police who've apologised for causing causing further offence with an apology about an officer's use of the tirm openly jewish to an anti semitism campaigner who was near a pro—palestine march. >> you are quite openly jewish. this is a pro—palestinian march, right? i'm not accusing you of anything , right? i'm not accusing you of anything, but i'm worried about the reaction to your presence . the reaction to your presence. >> well, the chief executive of campaign against anti semitism was wearing a kippah skullcap when he was stopped from crossing a road near the demonstration in london last saturday. >> let's talk to political commentator peter spencer who joins us now. look, it's a delicate issue in a sense as far as the government goes, because they're trying to balance the
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rights of people who want to protest against the rights, who are, anti that particular protest. but to say to someone you are quite clearly, openly jewish, you shouldn't be in this area , cannot be right, can it? area, cannot be right, can it? and how how do politicians deal with that? do we think the fact is that the world is inflamed and on tenterhooks? >> is the conflict in the middle east about to explode into something much, much bigger? and what we have in london is , is an what we have in london is, is an echo of that tension in microcosm . now, when it comes to microcosm. now, when it comes to this specific thing, a thing , this specific thing, a thing, this specific thing, a thing, this specific thing, a thing, this specific incident, it has to be said that the police are not noted for their linguistic dexterity. anybody else would say, the bloke was walking up the road and they have to say, the road and they have to say, the individual was proceeding in a northerly direction. i mean, they , they're not good on on
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they, they're not good on on words and openly jewish sounds. it has a sort of a connotation of saying like, you're openly 93v- of saying like, you're openly gay. well, look, they changed the law now, so you're allowed to be gay, but they still place that inflection on the on the terminology. that said , you terminology. that said, you watch that video and the police officer in question was very clearly not trying to be horrid to this man. what he was trying to this man. what he was trying to say was, look, you're in some danger because you are wearing a kippah skullcap and there is a demonstration going on which is opposed to the actions of the israeli government. and so the policeman, to some extent, was placed in an absolutely impossible situation. and i have to say that that that we're going to we're this situation will perpetuate until things in the middle east, god willing, simmer down a bit, peter, we were talking, just over a month ago now, weren't we, about the
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government's counter extremism commissioner warning that london had a no go zone for had become a no go zone for jews, that that was a warning about six weeks ago. >> well, this would suggest that that's true, isn't it? this man was not there, in his position to counter protest. he was actually just trying to cross the road. he says , after leaving the road. he says, after leaving the road. he says, after leaving the synagogue. and that would suggest it a no go zone . suggest it is a no go zone. >> it is a come back to it is a very , very tense situation, no very, very tense situation, no go zone. i mean, those words themselves have got sort of rather powerful and decidedly scary connotations , but the fact scary connotations, but the fact is that when you've got a bunch of people, a large bunch of people feeling extremely upset about a certain thing, then it is unfortunate, that you get someone of, of potentially the opposing view to be close by. i mean, i mean, i mean, i don't usually hold a great candle for knacker of the yard , but on this knacker of the yard, but on this occasion, i do feel that they
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are placed in an extremely difficult position and thus far i would add that i think they've actually handled that, handled the situation the overall situation of protests and counter protest with a great deal of skill and delicacy because of the fact that, you know, there have been suggestions in the past, well, you can't have these demonstrations. you've got to break them up. and they very wisely thought, if we try to do that, we'll have to bring the army in. and, they will carry army in. and, so they will carry on situations on having difficult situations and, potential and, and, and potential confrontations. and they are doing the very best they can in a bordering on impossible situation. >> okay, peter, for now , thanks >> okay, peter, for now, thanks very much indeed. well, the metropolitan police released an initial statement saying in recent weeks, we've seen a new trend emerge with those opposed to the main protests appearing along the route to express their views . the fact that those who views. the fact that those who do this often film themselves
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while doing so suggests that they must know their presence is provocative, that they're inviting a response , and they're inviting a response, and they're increasing the likelihood of an altercation . altercation. >> well, the metropolitan police then deleted that first statement and released a fresh one, saying, we have reflected one, saying, we have reflected on the strength of the response to our previous statement . but to our previous statement. but in an effort to make a point about the policing of protest, we caused further offence. this was never our intention . we have was never our intention. we have removed that statement and we apologise. being jewish is not a provocation. jewish londoners must be able to feel safe in this city. >> i mean, this is the issue when you listen to what the police officer is saying. i think peter's got a point when in a way, the police officer, apart from saying openly jewish, you know, the police officer has a point in saying, well, this could be, you know, this could be provocative in the circumstances , but the man has circumstances, but the man has a right to be there . i mean,
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right to be there. i mean, that's the point. he's got a right to be there. the fact he is jewish is shouldn't actually play is jewish is shouldn't actually play into it. you know, the fact, you know, if somebody else who was, very pro pro—israel, or i mean, in his case, he would argue, well, i'm just anti i'm anti anti—semitism , then who anti anti—semitism, then who wasn't wearing a kippah was just stood there. would anything have been said? no and this is the problem. it is slightly nuanced in a way i wouldn't want to see this. this police officer hung, drawn and quartered over, over what he said. but clearly what it wasn't right . it wasn't right. >> no. well, it wasn't right. i you can see what peter said. peter spencer is saying he's not being horrid. he's trying to keep that man safe. that's probably what he's trying to do. if we give him the benefit of the doubt. but you would think that's not this man's problem. that every right to that man has every right to cross street his home
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cross the street in his home city and feel safe to do so. it should be the pro—palestinian should be on the pro—palestinian marches. it's their responsibility to not be violent, to not to be violent. exactly. yeah but it didn't come across that way. so that's the response from the metropolitan police. is that enough? what do you make of that story? do you let us know what you think? gbnews.com/yoursay back now to the united states, where a man set on fire outside set himself on fire outside a courthouse in new york, where former president donald trump's hush money trial is underway? yes. police have identified the man as maxwell azarello from florida , who is in his 30s. he's florida, who is in his 30s. he's been taken to hospital and is in a critical condition. >> well, the trump campaign released a statement offering its condolences to the traumatised witnesses after the blaze. >> well, joining us now from washington is us political analyst eric ham. >> good to see you this morning, eric. and this is absolutely traumatising isn't it.
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>> oh it certainly is. i mean i've actually been at outside that courthouse where donald trump is now. and of course there have been protests and demonstrations, but certainly no one ever thought that you would see an individual who would actually set himself on fire. and so i can only imagine how that must have been. just deeply traumatised, traumatic for many of the people who were there and were actually had to witness that, just kudos to those who actually jumped into action to try to save that man's life. i mean, the thing is here, it's very difficult to understand what the man was trying to achieve. isn't it? his? i mean, he was sort of anti—trump and anti—biden, it would seem all all at the same time. i mean, clearly a disturbed individual . clearly a disturbed individual. >> oh, absolutely. i mean, i think it's a horrible a horrific situation that we saw play out today. and of course, no one knows really what was going through this individual's mind
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to make him do something like that. but of course, we know if the idea was to just protest, you know, his conditions or to , you know, his conditions or to, you know, his conditions or to, you know, his conditions or to, you know, illustrate just how deeply, problematic the country is right now. i think it there were probably more constructive ways to do it. and so i think that's what we see playing out . that's what we see playing out. >> and for people who haven't seen the videos, and i wouldn't suggest you do, because it is very distressing and traumatising. can you just explain exactly happens? explain exactly what happens? because quite a few because it does take quite a few seconds , doesn't it, before seconds, doesn't it, before people realise what people start to realise what what happened ? what has happened? >> well, mean, i wasn't there , >> well, i mean, i wasn't there, so i mean, you know, i don't know, i, i what, what, what led this individual to, to do what he did in terms of how he just set himself on fire. we do know that he, because of the trial , that he, because of the trial, there is a number of first responders that are there just for the sake of the trial. and we know there are protester
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demonstrations. so it's a very locked down situation . it's, you locked down situation. it's, you know, press are everywhere. and so we know that they were able to move in very quickly, but still it's just a very, distressing situation . distressing situation. >> is this an indication then, of just i mean, just how tense are things in the united states in the run up to november? and with i mean, there's so much going on globally. there's so much pressure on biden at the moment. obviously, trump, with his trials and being controversial yet popular as he is. i mean, really, can you cut the tension with a knife in the states? >> oh, absolutely. you can. but you know, it's not just tension. there's also just deep unease. and anxiety, people are people literally don't know what direction the nation is actually going in. in fact, we know elections are always about the future . they're always about the future. they're always about the vision that candidates will lay out in terms of where they want to take the country. but what we
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are seeing play out right now is many americans literally do not know where the nation is headed. and of course, as you mentioned, you know, you see a war taking place around us. and of course, evenin place around us. and of course, even in our own backyard, there's so much unease of the border is extremely porous and vulnerable right now. and so americans are don't know where to turn. and i think that's just only creating more tension , more only creating more tension, more anxiety. and it's only increasing the polarisation that we're seeing play out right now. >> okay. >> okay. >> eric ham , thank you very much >> eric ham, thank you very much for your time. thank you , for your time. thank you, talking about those problems, global problems, which are affecting everybody actually, it causes unease for all of us anyway, world leaders are calling for calm and de—escalation in the middle east after, as we reported yesterday, israel launched air strikes against iran. >> well, according to reports, three drones were shot down with explosions heard at an air base near the city of isfahan. >> now, the strike thought to be
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in response to last weekend's attack when iran fired drones and missiles at israel . and missiles at israel. >> well, joining us now is defence editor at the evening standard , robert fox. and, standard, robert fox. and, robert, is it safe to say that we can all breathe a sigh of relief for now? >> i think you're right that there's a pause for reflection now for very good reason, because there's been some very interesting israeli comment, not part of the government or the military set up in the more liberal press. >> things like the times of israel, very good online paper, haaretz, which i look at every every morning, both available in english, are saying that, you know, that a lot of this wasn't really long term preplanned action reactions going on. and i think that this is what's so fascinating is both tehran and tel aviv , jerusalem are thinking tel aviv, jerusalem are thinking where they are . they have sent where they are. they have sent signals to each other which they understand the strike. it
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starts. there were three things we have to go through the strike on the damascus consulate , which on the damascus consulate, which actually hit hit much harder, i think, than the israelis expected, because they they hit a command cell of the elite of the revolutionary guard corps. and this really hit that element, which is the elite, very active outside iran, very, very active outside iran, very, very hard indeed . that's why very hard indeed. that's why there was going to be an extreme reaction. it was extreme, though mild in effect. but it was extreme in that it was an attack on israeli territory from iran . on israeli territory from iran. what how do they do it? they do it with swarm tactics . see it with swarm tactics. see whether it works. this is what we've got. let's see how you respond to that. and israel has responded, and i think this has been really clever, whether by accident or by design, by the israeli authorities. they haven't said what they really did. now you have reported that
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they were drones. the israeli press is reporting it was a strike around isfahan on a key area, sending a signal by three very precise air launched missiles from aircraft. i think it was a bit of both, a lot. there was a lot of now you see me, now you don't. now let's see where we are. and you get the chorus of the backers around saying, be careful , do this chorus of the backers around saying, be careful, do this and do that. but the two principal players are eyeballing each other. and the interesting thing is , neither is blinking so far, is, neither is blinking so far, but neither seems to want to go crazy. which is reassuring . crazy. which is reassuring. >> which is unusual for me to say that. >> well, yeah, it is. i mean , >> well, yeah, it is. i mean, what's also interesting, this is iran has talked about the attacks coming from within the country , from infiltrators, country, from infiltrators, which is a it's intriguing, but b does that then give them a bit of a get out clause to say we
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don't necessarily need to respond ? respond? >> well, i don't want to sound partisan here. it's not nonsense . it has happened in the past. copter drones have been launched from within and this is the thing that really worries the iranian regime because there are dissident groups we know that is active there and there are would you believe it? racial tensions between the azeri minorities in the north, which are a big minority, and the farsi, the persians, and there is a sense that i think the caution of the iranian regime reflects that, that particular part of the regime revolution in 1979, they're very, very old indeed , they're very, very old indeed, and they are coming to an end. i mean, the grand, the ayatollah, the supreme leader, cannot be around forever . and he's looking around forever. and he's looking desperately for a successor. they've mentioned his son. i'm talking about ayatollah khomeini. and that's not going down too big either. it's very,
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very interesting. what one wants to know is what the israelis are saying to the americans at the moment . with regard to gaza, moment. with regard to gaza, i think the americans have been saying, get it wrapped up. i think that the israelis are saying, we've got to go into rafah because that's where the remaining command and it is difficult and, of, yahya sinwar and his team of hamas are. but there's that. but it's very interesting how in the united states i don't want to make it too complicated how, the israeli iran issue and ukraine are going together. and that comes possibly could come up today to the floor of the house as to whether they're going to give, extra for money further further support for israel. it will be a back up, particularly for things like the iron dome system, but more desperately needed is air defences, for ukraine, that message appears to be getting through, and i think there will
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be a package . it will come to be a package. it will come to the house in the next few days because things are pretty desperate. but again, absolutely against the odds. the ukrainians are fighting back. >> okay . robert fox, good to see >> okay. robert fox, good to see you this morning. >> thank you very much indeed. >> thank you very much indeed. >> heck, a lot of heavy stuff this morning to get through. let's see what the weather is going to be like for you. because i have to say it was a cold start where i woke up this morning. >> it was miserable yesterday, so i hope it's better today. annie >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar, sponsors of weather on gb news . news. news. news. >> good morning. welcome to your latest gb news weather update . latest gb news weather update. this weekend will be dry for many of us. the best of the sunshine will be in the west, particularly through today and across . actually, across eastern areas. actually, there's be cool there's going to be quite a cool feeling breeze with this northeasterly off northeasterly wind coming off the that will bring the north sea. that will bring some to eastern areas some cloud to eastern areas through this morning. elsewhere
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though, and though, it should stay dry and bright . however, we head bright. however, as we head towards i think more towards lunchtime, i think more in of cloud will bubble in the way of cloud will bubble up western areas. parts up across western areas. parts of into the midlands as up across western areas. parts of butinto the midlands as up across western areas. parts of but itto the midlands as up across western areas. parts of but it should/iidlands as up across western areas. parts of but it should stay nds as up across western areas. parts of but it should stay dry as well, but it should stay dry through of day and it through much of the day and it will feel fairly pleasant in the sunshine. later this evening sunshine. later on this evening we'll see parts of we'll start to see parts of scotland see some rain arrive as this area of pushes from this area of rain pushes in from the will bring the north. that will bring thicker to many areas thicker cloud to many areas of scotland as well. that area scotland as well. and that area of is going to sink of cloud is going to sink southwards through this evening, covering many of northern covering many areas of northern england, will england, and that will likely sit across parts of the midlands, into the midlands, possibly into the southeast. sunday morning. southeast. by sunday morning. this drizzly will likely this drizzly rain will likely affect northern areas of england, southern scotland as well, through sunday morning as well. going to be well. but it's going to be fairly light. but where the skies it's going to skies stay clear, it's going to be another chilly night. tonight we touch of frost we could see a touch of frost developing once again. as i said, is bit of said, there is a bit of uncertainty how widespread uncertainty in how widespread this it could this cloud will be. it could cover southeastern areas, cover more southeastern areas, but progresses, but as the day progresses, i think be better chance think there'll be better chance of spells developing, of brighter spells developing, particularly across the south and northwest , where it's and the northwest, where it's actually going to be the warmest
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through rest of the weekend. through the rest of the weekend. however for this central slither, will stay slither, it will likely stay fairly dull a little bit fairly dull and a little bit cooler for much of the day, with a chance of some drizzly rain. have great bye bye. have a great day. bye bye. >> warm feeling inside from >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on . gb news. on. gb news. >> now some good news this morning. there's still plenty of time to grab your chance to win a greek cruise. travel goodies and a £10,000 tax free cash bank balance boost. here's all the details that you need. >> don't miss your chance to win our biggest prize so far. there's an incredible £10,000 in tax free cash to spend however you like . plus, courtesy of you like. plus, courtesy of variety cruises, a bespoke seven night small boat cruise for two worth £10,000 with flights, meals, excursions and drinks included , your next holiday included, your next holiday could be on us. choose any one of their 2025 greek adventures and find your home at sea. we'll also send you packing with these
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the labour party has called on tories to scrap their shoplifters charter because new analysis reveals a thousand shoplifting offences are committed each and every day. >> well, this comes as data shows that charges for such offences have dropped more than a quarter over the last five years. >> let's talk to former detective chief inspector mike neville. morning to you, mike, what's going on? >> well, good morning, steve. and what's going on is that that's a thousand that are reported. only shopkeepers think i can't be bothered reporting this. probably ten times as many. now, theresa may introduced a law where if a shoplifting case was the value was under £200, it wouldn't be a case that could go to the crown court. and it would be dealt with by post. well, of course, what the shoplifters know is that you do ten times £199.95 added to all this, you've got the police who are just not focused. so at the very top
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yesterday you had gavin stevens, who's the former chief constable of surrey and the head of the national police chiefs council , national police chiefs council, saying that the police should admit to being institutionally racist rather than catching criminals. and at the bottom end , you've got about 70% of officers who literally haven't had an arrest in one year. so it's this complete lack of focus on on crime . and what it's left on on crime. and what it's left with is the public and people who own shops are just left where crime is allowed to flourish and criminals can get away with what they want. yeah >> and people working in shops being affronted with with levels of violence, sometimes people stealing from i mean, it stealing from them. i mean, it is really disturbing . is really disturbing. >> you're absolutely right. because what happens here is that the drug addicts or the drug addicts are organised gangs . they feel they're entitled to steal. and he showed some coffee there. i was at a co—op in croydon. and you actually asked for coffee. you couldn't buy it on the shelf. you had to go
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around and ask the shop keeper for it. so shop workers are left with these threats of violence and communities are just feel unsafe. if you can't go to your local shop without thinking somebody is going to be in there stealing. even my wife went to the shop the other day, just a small shop, and suddenly the guy shouted, there's shop shouted, oh, there's a shop lifter the in the in the in lifter in the in the in the in the the door. how the premises. lock the door. how frightening your frightening is that for your average member of public? it average member of the public? it just a sort of lawless just shows a sort of lawless britain where things aren't working. what's the key to >> i mean, what's the key to tackling this then? is it a case of saying we, the police, need to be more involved and, and, and even with the smallest of offences, you know, someone needs to be detained like, like we used to do. you put them in the back office and the police need to be called? or is that ultimately a waste of time for an overstretched force ? an overstretched force? >> well, one of the things, stephen, you have is that nearly every shop has high quality cctv which records offences ,
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which records these offences, and yet the police have no system to deal with images like they have a national fingerprint and a national dna database . so and a national dna database. so if you commit crimes in belfast, bolton and bournemouth, you're identified by fingerprints and dna. you were an organised dna. if you were an organised thief and you travel to belfast, bolton and bournemouth and you get captured on cctv, there's no way that those images will be matched. now. i had a team at the yard and we used to match people by faces and one prolific shoplifter. we caught him 43 times. that means he goes to jail . so what times. that means he goes to jail. so what the times. that means he goes to jail . so what the police need to jail. so what the police need to do is be a bit more savvy, use technology and catch these prolific thieves. you know, the shopkeeper can put up with a kid who steals a twix. it's the characters who are stealing ten, 20 times a day who are just wrecking profits, and also often the ones who are the most violent and bringing misery to communities . communities. >> and what do you find in your experience, mike, who is doing the shoplifting? is it sophisticated gangs that you've
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mentioned? is it drug addicts or is it, you know, we are in the middle of a cost of living crisis. is it people shoplifting out of desperation often? >> i don't think many people are shoplifting out of desperation. there's banks all sorts there's food banks and all sorts of things . there's very few old of things. there's very few old ladies stealing can of cat ladies stealing a can of cat food, people are drug food, mostly people are drug addicts. they're stealing things which very to easy sell on, which are very to easy sell on, like coke, coffee and things like coke, coffee and things like that. at the extreme. i deau like that. at the extreme. i dealt with a pub once where you ordered food on the menu , and ordered food on the menu, and the shoplifters went and stole it from the marks spencer's it from the marks and spencer's garage that was garage opposite. so that was very then got very organised. and then you got organised gangs who will target high which can then high value goods, which can then be sold ebay and other other be sold on ebay and other other internet sites. so i don't think there's very many people shoplifting because they're starving. but you have both political mainstream parties who failed on this, and they're only offering seems to be i'm not as bad as the other one. >> oh, well, we're going to be to talking the labour party about that a little bit later on. so we'll put that to them. mike good you. mike neville, good to see you. thanks much thank
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you. >> now it's time to go through all of the sports news. aidan magee is here with us. morning. >> morning to you both. >> morning to you both. >> have bit of this >> should we have a bit of this fa controversy? fa cup controversy? >> yeah. i mean, look, first of all, we should say it's a great day for cup and the great day for the fa cup and the great weekend over the next 48 hours or man city played chelsea or so. man city played chelsea at 515 and coventry, at 515 and tomorrow coventry, who been fa cup who haven't been to an fa cup semi—finals they semi—finals since 1987 when they won face man united at won it. they face man united at wembley but what's wembley at 330. but what's brought whole fa cup brought the whole fa cup argument into focus this week is because, well, it's the fa's announcement earlier in the week that they're going scrap that they're going to scrap replays . now touched on it replays. now we've touched on it earlier in the week as, as you know, rishi sunak has know, but now rishi sunak has weighed argument. now weighed into the argument. now keir come into it as keir starmer has come into it as well. now can tell it's an well. now you can tell it's an election year, can't yeah, election year, can't you? yeah, because they're on because they're seizing on something and something very popular and having felt. now having their opinions felt. now the the crux. the just the crux. >> no doubt they're both on the side the fans are side of the of the fans are they. >> they indeed. yeah. yeah >> they are indeed. yeah. yeah yeah. almost like you've yeah. it's almost like you've seen of thing before. seen this kind of thing before. so they want to ban it's so look they want to ban it's been announced that fa cup
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replay banned. replay is going to be banned. they source of income they are a huge source of income for league clubs. the big for lower league clubs. the big clubs just don't want them because extra aggravation. because it's extra aggravation. it you've got to their it means you've got to their worry player if worry is player welfare. if you're a manchester you're you're a manchester city, you're your seasons now where you're through seasons now where you're you're between 62 you're playing between 58 and 62 matches. it a heavy workload, matches. it is a heavy workload, but have big squads. they but they have big squads. they should able to get through should be able to get through these in go. so if these matches in one go. so if we what what rishi sunak we look at what what rishi sunak said, his spokesman said said, i mean, his spokesman said yesterday and goliath yesterday david and goliath fixtures of the magic fixtures are a part of the magic of cup, and we know that of the cup, and we know that replays have been a welcome source income lower source of income for lower league clubs. he did caveat everything a everything by saying it's a decision for football decision for the football authorities, though, to authorities, though, as to whether gets whether the decision gets reversed, said it's reversed, keir starmer said it's the wrong decision and he's urged the fa to have a rethink. if look at barrow in league if you look at barrow in league two, called it simply two, they've called it simply unacceptable. are there. two, they've called it simply unacc you ble. are there. two, they've called it simply unaccyou look are there. two, they've called it simply unaccyou look at are there. two, they've called it simply unaccyou look at theare there. two, they've called it simply unaccyou look at the words. �*e. yeah, you look at the words. yeah, you look at the words. yeah, but if look well it's yeah, but if we look well it's going to affect clubs like that. it really does affect communities. a big communities. they had a big replay year or big replay the other year or the big match that year against aston villa, a friend of who villa, and a friend of mine who lives in barrow said it brought the town, it woke it up. it
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really was alive. was really did. it was alive. it was absolutely fantastic the absolutely fantastic for the area actually learn area and people actually learn about area because the bbc about the area because the bbc go there they a little go there and they do a little historical pieces about all the history of area, and history of the of the area, and people learn about that stuff, and that's a good thing. people learn about that stuff, and havethat's a good thing. people learn about that stuff, and havethat'ssaidood thing. people learn about that stuff, and havethat'ssaid00(league exeter have also said in league two condemn the two that they condemn the decision. let's see decision. so look, let's see what efl, though, what happens. the efl, though, have that weren't have said that they weren't consulted the consulted over any of this. the fa released statement fa released a statement yesterday saying all yesterday saying this is all agreed last year efl agreed in the last year the efl were side, saying were on side, efl are saying there's no there's no formal consultation the clubs consultation and that the clubs are themselves consultation and that the clubs are benefit themselves consultation and that the clubs are benefit all mselves consultation and that the clubs are benefit all the lves consultation and that the clubs are benefit all the clubs at the benefit of all the clubs at the benefit of all the clubs at the the pyramid. so i the top end of the pyramid. so i think going and run think it's going to run and run a bit. this one, i think a little bit. this one, i think we might see a decision sometime over summer, but it does over the summer, but it does seem unfair right now over the summer, but it does seem i've1fair right now over the summer, but it does seem i've seen'ight now over the summer, but it does seem i've seen you now over the summer, but it does seem i've seen you think back because i've seen you think back to great fa cup to some of the great fa cup ties, even involving ties, not even involving lower league think some league clubs, but think of some of the great great ties between ryan giggs his shirt ryan giggs took his shirt off and at and started waving around at the top of his when top of his, top of his fist when they won replay against they won the replay against arsenal. aston against at arsenal. aston villa against at aston 1999. you think arsenal. aston villa against at as some 1999. you think arsenal. aston villa against at as some of 1999. you think arsenal. aston villa against at as some of the 999. you think arsenal. aston villa against at as some of the great ’ou think arsenal. aston villa against at as some of the great matches. of some of the great matches. some of them were, a lot of them were think that were replays. so i think that people traditionalists were replays. so i think that pe0|want traditionalists were replays. so i think that pe0|want seetraditionalists were replays. so i think that pe0|want see the tionalists were replays. so i think that pe0|want see the fa nalists
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were replays. so i think that pe0|want see the fa cup ts and want to see the fa cup thrive as a tradition will want to retain yeah, yeah. to retain them. yeah, yeah. >> have a word on the snooker? >> it's underway today. ellie. yeah, exactly. sheffield in sheffield. yeah. well this is interestingand did a, did an came out and did a, did an interview yesterday. it's been at the crucible the 80s, i at the crucible since the 80s, i think even going back, think maybe even going back, before saudi before that. but saudi is circling. wants supplant circling. it wants to supplant the take the world champions and take them eddie hearn's them over there. eddie hearn's argument there's three argument is that there's three years still the current years to go still of the current contract. so there's a while to go yet. there's plenty of discussions but saudi discussions to be had, but saudi sees the world snooker championships face it, championships and let's face it, it's a sport that needs a it's a it's a sport that needs a little bit of a revival. if you look stellar in look at the stellar name in snooker is ronnie o'sullivan. he's nothing wrong he's 50 next year. nothing wrong with course. but if you with that of course. but if you look darts, for example, look at the darts, for example, their is what, 16. and their superstar is what, 16. and so can see future there. so they can see a future there. someone to build marketing around. >> almost like but but >> it's almost like but but ronnie sort of signed ronnie o'sullivan sort of signed over to the side hasn't over to the saudi side hasn't he. he's setting up the ronnie o'sullivan school o'sullivan school. school >> yeah he is, he is and that's fine. but there are plenty of other. he's made his money. that's and have a few that's fine. and so have a few others the top. but it was
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others at the top. but it was the same in darts. phil taylor when i used to interview him, he used do interviews with me to used to do interviews with me to promote though promote sport, even though he didn't need to play the sport for it was it's for his own benefit. it was it's for his own benefit. it was it's for other other players. the for the other other players. the other players in snooker need to earn than they're earn better money than they're earning eddie hearn said earning now, eddie hearn said yesterday. 3 or yesterday. i can earn them 3 or 4 more saudi can 4 times more in saudi than i can in small in sheffield. it's a small arena. he criticised the uk arena. he also criticised the uk government not promoting government for not promoting enough encouraging enough enough or not encouraging enough elite sporting events over here. on side of that, you on the flip side of that, you say, this already say, well, this is already a mature nation. mature sporting nation. we already lot of elite already have a lot of elite events already, so why should we push boat to make push the boat out to make snooker as big as any bigger than it already is? it should find the find its own way in the marketplace. problem find its own way in the markecourse, problem find its own way in the markecourse, is problem find its own way in the markecourse, is stephen, roblem find its own way in the markecourse, is stephen, thatem is, of course, is stephen, that it's very find snooker it's very hard to find snooker coverage. you have to coverage. now you have to discover all these different multiple multicoloured buttons to it on, behind and to find it on, behind and sometimes even behind a paywall. so were kids so whereas when we were kids snooken so whereas when we were kids snooker, 22 million people watched title watched the world chart title world championship in 1985 between dennis taylor and steve davis, and that was 130 in the morning, 22 million people watching. those days are long,
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long gone . but it was at least long gone. but it was at least accessible. and so i think snooker does have some some thinking to do. it's always compared against darts compared against against darts because it's a similar kind of audience, of audience, similar kind of demographic . and i think they'll demographic. and i think they'll look see the success look back and see the success that had earlier the that darts had earlier in the year with the of stars year with the number of stars coming maybe they need coming through. maybe they need to i to revitalise it at some time. i know dealt with know people who dealt with snooker ten, 15 ago very, snooker ten, 15 years ago very, very stuffy, very stuck their very stuffy, very stuck in their ways maybe need ways and they maybe just need a little push. and if that means bringing world away bringing the world title away from sheffield and to saudi, maybe, not. maybe maybe, maybe it's not. maybe that it's what it that could be what it's what it needed. also you still get needed. and also you still get other still other tournaments that still could place, big could take place, big tournaments, still take tournaments, it still could take place like crucible. >> okay, thank you. let >> okay, aiden. thank you. let us you think about us know what you think about that. controversial ? that. is that controversial? >> i think they need a luke littler snooker world. >> i think they need a luke littwell, snooker world. >> i think they need a luke littwell, sno needvorld. >> i think they need a luke litt well, sno need a rld. >> i think they need a luke litt well, sno need a new >> well, they need a new steve davis, they? yeah davis, don't they? yeah >> he was known as interesting, wasn't he? he was boring. >> yeah. what was 19, >> yeah, yeah. what was he, 19, he was pretty young when he came through, but he won seven titles. hendry has eight. o'sullivan, we should say, is going eighth title to
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hendry. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> stephen hendry, excellent player. yeah. scottish from player. yeah. scottish guy from edinburgh wonderful. player. yeah. scottish guy from edinburgup wonderful. player. yeah. scottish guy from edinburgup to>nderful. player. yeah. scottish guy from edinburgup to now. ful. >> he's up to now. >> he's up to now. >> still around the >> he's still around the circuit. senior playing seniors. >> so we need teen sensation . >> so we need a teen sensation. that's what we need. yeah. >> now anyway let us know what you gb comments you think. gb news comments slash your say. >> now do stay with papers >> now do stay with us papers next and next with winston davies and candice
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i >> -- >> at 20 to 7, let's have a look at some of the front pages for you this morning. yes. >> the guardian leads with calls for calm after israeli strikes hit iran yesterday. telegraph has scotland yard being under fire after a jewish man was threatened with arrest for walking near pro—palestinian protesters , as the times leads protesters, as the times leads with tories plans to cut stamp duty mail, has rishi sunak plans
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to axe benefits after a year on the dole ? well, joining us now the dole? well, joining us now to go through what's making the news this morning is social campaigner winston davies and writer commentator candice writer and commentator candice holdsworth. really good to see you both this morning, where should we begin, candace, should we start with the telegraph front page? and it's also our top story. this morning. this is scotland yard under fire, after a police officer referred to a jewish man as being openly jewish man as being openly jewish and threatening him with arrest . yes. so, like you say, arrest. yes. so, like you say, this is an enormous story. so it's covered on the telegraph front page. and the chief executive of the campaign against anti—semitism, gideon falter, was walking through central london after coming back from synagogue . he was wearing from synagogue. he was wearing his yarmulke, which is the traditional religious headwear worn by observant jewish men and a police officer said to him, you are openly jewish. >> at a pro—palestinian protest. i am looking out for your safety. i think that you should leave. and obviously the
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response from people is no one should be afraid to walk in central london whilst displaying their and fact of their religion and the fact of their religion and the fact of the matter is, these protests should be about, the matter is, these protests should be about , well, the matter is, these protests should be about, well, how the matter is, these protests should be about , well, how they should be about, well, how they present themselves. they're about criticising the actions of the israeli government. it shouldn't be for ordinary british jews to have to avoid those places. and if they have to, then that's very worrying. >> and what about the threat of arrest ? yes, i think that's significant. >> yes, that's hugely significant. well that's the thing. the way that this police officer handled it was really crude and clumsy because i think on the one hand they're sort of thinking on a small scale. this could break out into a fight. but ignoring bigger but he's ignoring the bigger picture of ordinary people, and particularly who are particularly people who are religious, should be able to go wherever they like in central london. and they shouldn't have to worry about threats of violence or the police threatening to them if threatening to arrest them if they them on. it's a very they move them on. it's a very disturbing incident. and the police apologised for it, police have apologised for it, but i think it raises a lot of questions, yeah .
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questions, yeah. >> what do you make of it, winston? >> i mean, i think the metropolitan police are under a massive pressure. they've been having demonstrations after having demonstrations week after week months, and week for six odd months, and i think i'm to training and think i'm down to training and trying get the officers to trying to get the officers to understand to communicate in understand how to communicate in these messages to both the protesters and, you know, jewish people that are walking about their daily lives and how they can navigate that. so, yeah, i think that, like, you know, people should have the right to be able to go wherever they want in which in this country, which a democratic we be democratic country, we should be able we want. but able to do whatever we want. but at the same time, it's a case of balancing out so that we balancing that out so that we don't you know, outright, don't have, you know, outright, you and flare you know, punch ups and flare ups street. ups in the street. >> it's a i mean, i think he's the police officer in a sense is right to you know, just be right to say, you know, just be careful . you know, this this may careful. you know, this this may be problematic. just be careful . be problematic. just be careful. but to sort of then in effect, say you are in the wrong for being here. but if you and if you don't go are threatening you with arrest . yeah. with arrest. yeah. >> i think we're fingers we're
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pushing. you know, the thing is, is again your protesting like peaceful protesting. we can all protest. can have protesting protest. we can have protesting loads different different loads around different different areas and subject matters. but it's about doing that in a way that know you're not going that you know you're not going to going physically to be going out physically attacking or attacking other people or causing, people causing, you know, people to feel you're feel uncomfortable. if you're walking your kids walking around with your kids and threatened, walking around with your kids and right. threatened, walking around with your kids and right. no,1reatened, walking around with your kids and right. no, winston,, that's not right. no, winston, the mail looking at these plans to crack down on benefits if you're on the dole for more than a year, you're going to get me going. >> good. so the prime minister, rishi, has come out yesterday, said that it's going to be the biggest welfare crackdown of generation and that unemployed people are going to be forced back into work after 12 months, if don't take up work if they don't take up work that's been given to them, like, look 100% if you're not working, if you're on benefits, you should be actively trying to work. and if you're suffering from mental health issues, your depression and whatnot, then yeah, you should be. you should be getting support. but the
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problem got is waiting problem we've got is nhs waiting lists have been decreasing. lists have not been decreasing. they've and they've been increasing and they've going they've said that they're going to nhs waiting list to get the nhs waiting list under at the moment under control. at the moment we've million people under control. at the moment we'vare million people under control. at the moment we'v are waitingillion people under control. at the moment we'v are waiting for�*n people under control. at the moment we'v are waiting for mentale that are waiting for mental health treatment from the nhs, and are not being and their issues are not being resolved . and rather than resolved. and rather than saying, you know, help saying, you know, let's help them, these , the them, you know, these, the people that been going, people that have been going, waiting , being unemployed waiting for, being unemployed has gone up. the people that are waiting to be on long tum sick leave has gone up since the pandemic. >> but the argument is, and you're quite right, stuff needs to be addressed. and if there are problems, they to be are problems, they need to be looked all the rest of looked at and all the rest of it, the argument here is saying, well, there are people using it as people as an excuse. there are people who you know, and who are saying, you know, and it's if it says here if it's not as if it says here if they to find a job, it's they fail to find a job, it's more if you're jobs and more if you're offered jobs and you say, no, i don't want to do that one. >> the thing is, i think for >> but the thing is, i think for me, saying there's a direct me, i'm saying there's a direct correlation between covid and these people that are on long tum and with the tum unemployment. and with the health, health issues and health, mental health issues and health, mental health issues and health . my thing is health issues. my thing is saying, well, yeah, that's what it says. it's a direct
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correlation since covid they've gone third. so we've got gone up by a third. so we've got 2.8 million think. it now 2.8 million i think. is it now that on long tum sick leave that are on long tum sick leave and unemployed. like, and unemployed. so it's like, can we not help these people? can we not find some way to give them support rather than saying, rather well, rather than saying, well, you know out to work. know what, just get out to work. let's get the nhs waiting list down support these down and let's support these people. that. no down and let's support these pe0|wants that. no down and let's support these pe0|wants to that. no down and let's support these pe0|wants to be that. no down and let's support these pe0|wants to be benefits. one wants to be on benefits. i grew up on benefits. i wouldn't want on benefits. no but want to be on benefits. no but some people don't. >> they might want to >> well, they might not want to be benefits, but they don't be on benefits, but they don't want have because you want to have a job because you do get families where it's generation generation that generation after generation that never have a job. >> problem i've got with it never have a job. >:that problem i've got with it never have a job. >:that rishi lem i've got with it never have a job. >:that rishi sanders got with it never have a job. >:that rishi sanders ist with it never have a job. >:that rishi sanders is saying,t is that rishi sanders is saying, let's you let's let's not what do you say? let's not where is. not have normal where it is. let's not fight day. let's not fight every day. problems excuse to not problems are no excuse to not finding yeah rishi doesn't finding work. yeah rishi doesn't know what everyday problems are. he's everyday he's never experienced everyday problems. he's a multi—millionaire with a silver spoon mouth. spoon in his mouth. >> he now . he. >> well, he is now. he. >> well, he is now. he. >> even get elected. >> he didn't even get elected. he given the premiership. he was given the premiership. the prime ministership a the prime ministership on a plate. he didn't even plate. he didn't. he didn't even win to get that. win an election to get that. he's been given everything all of do you of his life. how do you understand it's like for
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understand what it's like for a normal person? >> oh, candice, no, mean, normal person? >think candice, no, mean, normal person? >think thatcandice, no, mean, normal person? >think that thiince, no, mean, normal person? >think that this isz, no, mean, normal person? >think that this is really mean, i think that this is really important. >> this >> i think that this worklessness crisis ballooned worklessness crisis is ballooned out and i don't out of control, and i don't think the department of work and pensions actually very good pensions actually had very good data i mean, lot of data on this. i mean, a lot of this was revealed by number crunching the spectator that crunching by the spectator that revealed of revealed the actual extent of the where you've got the problem, where you've got cities now, where you've got almost quarter of the almost a quarter of the population sickness population claiming sickness benefits, i just don't think benefits, and i just don't think it's those people . i it's good for those people. i mean, i know people with severe psychiatric who work, psychiatric conditions who work, andifs psychiatric conditions who work, and it's very fulfilling for them, it's actually very them, and it's actually very good and it's actually good for them. and it's actually good for them. and it's actually good mental good for their mental health because something that because they have something that is something that is positive and something that they and i think they can work for. and i think just leaving people to sit at home for their the whole of their lives, in some cases never being to achieve anything being able to achieve anything is so damaging. >> so but so in that sense would you support the idea of saying, you support the idea of saying, you know, for 12 months if you're not taking a job which is available, that job is, available, whatever that job is, then we cut your money? >> absolutely . yes, i do, >> yes, absolutely. yes, i do, i do, i do agree with that because
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i think there's been a number of reports now people saying reports now with people saying that reason i am on these that the reason i am on these benefits and the reason i'm not getting a job is it'll be stuff like, i just don't like being told do or don't like told what to do or i don't like the i don't want the pressure, or i don't want to get in morning. and those get up in the morning. and those aren't excuses . i mean, aren't valid excuses. i mean, the fact of the matter it's the fact of the matter is, it's not fair taxpayers either. not fair on taxpayers either. you have get up to work to you have to get up to work to spend away their spend time away from their children who are also dealing with strains. with stresses and strains. >> i don't want get up for work. >> no, i'd say i think we can all relate to that feeling, can't we, candice, let's stay with shall and times can't we, candice, let's stay viwas shall and times can't we, candice, let's stay viwas an shall and times can't we, candice, let's stay viwas an undercoverlnd times can't we, candice, let's stay viwas an undercover schoolgirl1es i was an undercover schoolgirl at 26 is the headline about this more this is quite an interesting story. >> so this is in the times and it's the real life drew barrymore. so, you know, from, have you ever seen the film never been kissed? yes. it was in the yes . yeah, yeah, yeah, i in the yes. yeah, yeah, yeah, i love that film. yeah. we'll remember that film. yeah. like it was 2000 about it was very 2000 about a journalist who goes undercover in sort of expose in a school to sort of expose the system and its the school system and all its failings. it was based on the life of this woman, shan jones ,
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life of this woman, shan jones, who that in 1992. she who did just that in 1992. she attends a high school because she wanted to show that there was severe underfunding in the california public school system at time. but what's quite at the time. but what's quite interesting is, is that the people she went to school with were really angry with her for it, because she had pretend it, because she had to pretend she was one them, and she had she was one of them, and she had to and they told to befriend them, and they told her secrets . and can you her their secrets. and can you imagine being teenager and you imagine being a teenager and you form friendship with form this friendship with someone, you discover someone, and then you discover that actually 26 years that they're actually 26 years old they're not. they're old and they're not. they're some undercover some sort of undercover investigator. i mean, i think at that, such a formative age that would disturb you quite a lot come on. >> it would. >> it would. >> oh, my god, i think it would. i that would freak me out as a teenager. teenagen >> oh, i'm just impressed she got away with being a school girl at the age of 26. yeah >> oh dear me. yeah. >> oh dear me. yeah. >> so. well it'd be interesting to get her perspective on it from, from from that i just, i
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don't know what you're so upset about because they shared what sort of lipstick they liked to wear. well, i don't know. >> i think girls at that age are forming very close friendships andifs forming very close friendships and it's sort of where you kind of form your of, like, of form your idea of, like, other people think if other people and i think if someone came into your life someone like came into your life and was to you like and was able to fool you like that, wouldn't like that, i. i wouldn't like that. >> understand you're >> i understand what you're saying. know if saying. now, i don't know if you'd be allowed to do it these days. you'd be allowed to do it these day no, mean, again, we're >> no, i mean, again, we're talking mental health talking about mental health issues like that. talking about mental health issuesthis like that. talking about mental health issuesthis would like that. talking about mental health issuesthis would be (e that. talking about mental health issuesthis would be a that. talking about mental health issuesthis would be a ring. well, this would be a ring dinger for compensation claims. and should. well, dinger for compensation claims. and what. should. well, dinger for compensation claims. and what. in ould. well, dinger for compensation claims. and what. in ouldworld, that's what. but in the world we live it could be. live in now, it could well be. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> for sure. >> claim for sure. >> claim for sure. >> imagine all the you would >> i imagine all the you would have loved it if you'd found out someone school with someone you went to school with wasi'm not saying nothing . >> i'm not saying nothing. >> i'm not saying nothing. >> yeah, winston , the guardian, >> yeah, winston, the guardian, can we have a look at the israeli iran situation, it's been hyped up on. i mean, the mirror is saying the world waits on around what the guardian's headune on around what the guardian's headline is, but i mean, actually, this has been quite cleverly played that we thought it was all kicking off first
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thing yesterday morning and actually it's been cleverly played that both sides have been able to sort of have their say if you like, but it's not going anywhere. >> it's like i said, it blew up yesterday. i mean, sorry, excuse the pun, but yeah. no, it went off yesterday. and it's off yesterday. right. and it's like feels like we've got like it feels like we've got this tat going on. it's like this for tat going on. it's like posturing, know, well, posturing, like, you know, well, i'm, not i'm not scared. i'm, i'm not i'm not scared. you're not scared. i didn't you're not scared. so i didn't didn't nothing and you're not scared. so i didn't did|kind nothing and you're not scared. so i didn't did|kind ofothing and you're not scared. so i didn't did|kind ofothingbut and you're not scared. so i didn't did|kind ofothingbut ared it's kind of just. but we are waiting to what happens waiting to see what happens because like a bit of a because it is like a bit of a game of chess at the moment, we've the at the g7 meeting, we've got the at the g7 meeting, anthony blinken saying we're committed israel's security, committed to israel's security, but to but also committed to de—escalation and is also despite this confrontation , he despite this confrontation, he remains intensely focused on gaza. so it's just kind of like you've got these sort of dualities going on between , you dualities going on between, you know, israel and iran and all of the proxies that are around. and then you've got the whole issue of, you know , huge issues going of, you know, huge issues going on in israel and gaza for the last six months. so i think it's going to be one of those ones
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we're going to keep an eye on, you know, intensely over the next few days to see what actually if there's any actually happens, if there's any response, if, anything, response, if, if anything, i think they've given think they've both given each other save face a other the chance to save face a little bit and calm down on this. >> i mean, thank heavens it's a real game of chess. >> it's sort of anticipating your opponent's next move, but also thinking several moves ahead. and they're both in a very interesting position because israel doesn't want to alienate its allies and actually , after the iran strike, it was actually left in quite a strong position because all these people who had at one point had been saying, you're going too far, need to scale back now, far, you need to scale back now, really out in support of really came out in support of israel, which which was really good because at one point it was starting to look it was starting to look like it was getting isolated . and getting a bit isolated. and iran, contrast, looked like iran, by contrast, looked like the but iran's dealing the pariah. but iran's dealing with so many internal i with so many internal issues. i mean, really what's mean, that's really what's motivating that's why motivating them. that's why they're do they they're doing this. how do they respond, though? how do iran respond, though? how do iran respond this? respond to this? >> well , hopefully. >> well, hopefully. >> well, hopefully. >> well, hopefully. >> well, i mean, they've played it much that maybe they
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it down so much that maybe they can get away without responding at all. >> know , which is probably the >> i know, which is probably the way they're play it, way they're trying to play it, because is so interesting because what is so interesting is countries is the way that both countries have mean, israel hasn't >> i mean, israel hasn't confirmed anything they haven't >> i mean, israel hasn't confianything,thing they haven't >> i mean, israel hasn't confianything, which they haven't >> i mean, israel hasn't confianything, which is|ey haven't said anything, which is interesting of itself . interesting in and of itself. and iran just totally downplaying the attack, saying, yeah, been handled. yeah, everything's been handled. airspace is reopened. nothing to see here. i think they're probably both of them are more comfortable in the shadow wars and going through proxies. yeah. than are head to head than they are head to head because they know dangerous because they know how dangerous that because that was that could be, because that was iran of the shadows iran coming out of the shadows with strike israel. with that strike on israel. >> yes . yeah. yeah. absolutely. >> yes. yeah. yeah. absolutely. >> yes. yeah. yeah. absolutely. >> right. >> yes. yeah. yeah. absolutely. >> let's ght. >> yes. yeah. yeah. absolutely. >> let's cheer ourselves up. should we, with something a little bit lighter, please , little bit lighter, please, well, it's not going to make you smile, rats . zilla. smile, though, rats. zilla. >> oh, well, that's in the daily star. >> yeah. so this is a story in the daily star. apparently, refuse workers have claimed that there are rats the size of cats. now in bins. in bins? yeah but they put it down to cuts to pest
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control. and the fact that bins are collected fortnightly, not weekly now. so they they're eating and they're getting bigger and bigger and bigger. i saw a if i saw a cat sized rat, i don't think i would ever recover that i'd run disturbing. that would be, oh, we had them. we had a rat in our house at university and it leapt out of the stove. i'll never forget it. and me and my housemate just ran screaming down the corridor. i mean, it was so funny. they're brazen. they are the problem now. how. >> now. >> they've got no fear. >> they've got no fear. >> you've just got to suck it up and deal with it. i've been. i've been i've been a i've been a plumber for 15 years. right you see and you come you see a few and you come across them and it's just like, yeah, all right, it's true yeah, all right, mate, it's true what say, that you're never what they say, that you're never six from million. yeah, six foot from a million. yeah, everywhere. once the everywhere. i was once in the loft and i was loft doing some work, and i was just cracking on with it, loft doing some work, and i was just i cracking on with it, loft doing some work, and i was just i could'acking on with it, loft doing some work, and i was just i could smell on with it, loft doing some work, and i was just i could smell the with it, loft doing some work, and i was just i could smell the smell. i and i could smell the smell. i was smelling it, smelling it. next got torture. was smelling it, smelling it. i\had got torture. was smelling it, smelling it. i\had a got torture. was smelling it, smelling it. i\had a look. got torture. was smelling it, smelling it. i\had a look. andjot torture. was smelling it, smelling it. i\had a look. and it's torture. i had a look. and it's a decaying, rat or mice or something. sitting there by something. just sitting there by my and, you just get my head and, you know, just get on with it. >> how big do get?
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>> how big do they get? >> how big do they get? >> i this was this was big. >> i know this was this was big. >> i know this was this was big. >> like a cat. >> well, yeah. not like cat. >> well, yeah. not like a cat. no, mean big. no, but i mean big. >> i don't that. >> oh, i don't like that. >> oh, i don't like that. >> they're incredibly intelligent rats. >> yeah, they are. >> they are. yeah, they are. they're intelligent they're very, very intelligent around they're very, very intelligent arourfeel i do feel sorry for >> i feel i do feel sorry for them sometimes they're them sometimes that they're quite remember my quite maligned. i remember my neighbour put birdseed in neighbour put out birdseed in the and eventually it was the winter and eventually it was just all rats eating it. and just all the rats eating it. and then made her take the then everyone made her take the birdseed thought, but birdseed down and i thought, but they need to eat. and they also do need to eat. and i know that's really soft of me. yeah. yeah. yeah. that is. yeah. >> on. there's a park near >> come on. there's a park near me and have to go through me and you have to go through the to get to the shops, the park to get to the shops, and there's so many rats and they're and they don't they're brazen and they don't hide bushes. hide in the bushes. >> come out run and >> they come out and run and scurry by your feet. and i won't walk the park anymore. walk through the park anymore. >> you ever bit by one? >> no, but that's what. >> so there we are. >> so there we are. >> think about it. >> think about it. >> but they definitely >> yeah, but they definitely could bite me. >> they're not scared, they? >> would they'll never >> would they? they'll never nibble you you smell nibble of you unless you smell like or a biscuit. like a chip or a biscuit. >> well, i probably do smell like biscuits. probably like chips or biscuits. probably the you go. the problem. yeah. there you go. but do. but no, i do. >> i worry about it if you're
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>> i do worry about it if you're a rat fan this morning, if you've rats, you've got rats. >> as pets, then let us know. i don't know you like them. >> you're being weird, i like them. >> you're being weird, i like the it's. >> it's. >> it's. >> you're saying they're intelligent. >> i'm not. >> lovely. i'm not. >> rat . i want one >> i'm not anti rat. i want one living in the house. i'm not anti rat. i don't think these wicked, evil things that we all must exterminate like mad. horrible. anyway. anyway there you go, candice and winston. thank you both very much indeed. we'll see you later on. >> and annie has your for weather you . weather you. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> good morning. welcome to your latest gb news weather update . latest gb news weather update. this weekend will be dry for many of us. the best of the sunshine will be the west, sunshine will be in the west, particularly through today and across . actually, across eastern areas. actually, there's quite cool there's going to be quite a cool feeling this feeling breeze with this northeasterly coming northeasterly wind coming off the will bring the north sea that will bring some areas some cloud to eastern areas through this morning. elsewhere
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though, it stay dry and though, it should stay dry and bright . however, as we head bright. however, as we head towards lunchtime, more towards lunchtime, i think more in cloud will bubble in the way of cloud will bubble up areas, parts up across western areas, parts of the midlands as of wales into the midlands as well , but it of wales into the midlands as well, but it should of wales into the midlands as well , but it should stay of wales into the midlands as well, but it should stay dry through of the day it through much of the day and it will fairly in the will feel fairly pleasant in the sunshine. evening sunshine. later on this evening we'll see of we'll start to see parts of scotland , see rain arrive scotland, see some rain arrive as rain pushes in as this area of rain pushes in from north. that will bring from the north. that will bring thicker many areas of thicker cloud to many areas of scotland and that area scotland as well. and that area of to sink of cloud is going to sink southwards evening, southwards through this evening, covering areas of northern covering many areas of northern england, likely england, and that will likely sit parts of the sit across parts of the midlands, possibly into the southeast. sunday morning. southeast. by sunday morning. this drizzly rain will likely affect northern areas of england, southern scotland as well, through sunday morning as well. but it's going to be fairly light. but where the skies it's going to skies stay clear, it's going to be chilly night. tonight be another chilly night. tonight we see touch of frost we could see a touch of frost developing once again. as i said, is of said, there is a bit of uncertainty in how widespread this will it could this cloud will be. it could cover southeastern areas, cover more southeastern areas, but as the day progresses, i think there'll be better chance of brighter spells developing, particularly south of brighter spells developing, particultnorthwest south of brighter spells developing, particultnorthwest, south of brighter spells developing, particultnorthwest , whereth of brighter spells developing, particultnorthwest , where it's and the northwest, where it's
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actually going to be the warmest through the rest of the weekend. however for this central slither, stay slither, it will likely stay fairly and little bit fairly dull and a little bit cooler for of the day, with cooler for much of the day, with a chance of drizzly rain . a chance of some drizzly rain. have day. bye bye. have a great day. bye bye. >> warm feeling inside from >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on
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gb news. >> good morning to you. 7:00 saturday, the 20th of april. today >> quite openly jewish. this is a pro—palestinian march. i'm not accusing you of anything, but i'm worried about the reaction to your presence. >> the metropolitan police issue another apology after officers threatened to arrest a jewish man wearing a kippah as he walked through central london dunng walked through central london during a pro—palestine protest . during a pro—palestine protest. >> shocking scenes as a man sets himself on fire outside the
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trump hush money trial in a political protest against the establishment leaders around the world. >> call for calm in the middle east after tensions rose following an israeli strike on iran. >> is the british fry up toast? well, according to new research, gen z gen z turned their backs on the breakfast they are deeming it to be too fatty . get deeming it to be too fatty. get a grip. >> on the eve of the much anticipated london marathon, we're going to be talking to the family of our very own christopher hope. they're taking part this year's event for part in this year's event for a very reason . very special reason. >> good morning. it's another big day of premier league action. could a 15 year old debutant have a bearing on the title race in tennis? there was more disappointment for britain's emma raducanu as she bowed out of the stuttgart open at the quarterfinal stage, will also be looking ahead to the chinese grand prix. >> morning. a bright >> good morning. it's a bright but start for many of us but chilly start for many of us across the uk. how will the rest of the weekend pan out? well,
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you can find out all the details with me a little later on. >> morning you. >> good morning to you. i'm stephen ellie stephen dixon, i'm ellie costello and this is breakfast on . on. gb news. >> this story about the fry up is really upsetting me. oh is it really? >> yeah. do you like a fry up? >> yeah. do you like a fry up? >> i love a fry. you know, i do every every saturday and every sunday. i had to have a fry up. >> do you? every weekend. >> do you? every weekend. >> yeah. every weekend. it's my weekend and weekend breakfast. oh. and then dunng weekend breakfast. oh. and then during have granola during the week i'd have granola and to and and fruit and yoghurt to try and be a bit healthier. you know, it's all about balance. people >> up myself. >> i do like a fry up myself. >> i do like a fry up myself. >> you so do you. well, >> yeah, you so do you. well, a poll of those aged 18 to 34 found almost 15% never touched a cooked maybe found almost 15% never touched a cookeor maybe found almost 15% never touched a cookeor a maybe found almost 15% never touched a cookeor a year. maybe once or twice a year. >> you've never lived. >> you've never lived. >> you've never lived. >> you find it to be too fatty. a similar were concerned a similar number were concerned about the calorie of about the calorie intake of goodness sake. and 89% said they experienced food guilt after wolfing down the breakfast. 89.
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that's almost everyone that eats a fry up. >> feels bad about it. >> feels bad about it. >> you wouldn't want it every day. >> no, you couldn't have it every day. >> couldn't have it every day. >> couldn't have it every day. >> but it's a couple of times week. >> oh it's lovely. that's nothing. fry bread. >> you just have fry bread. >> you just have fry bread. >> no no no no. so toast. yeah. >> about. >> what about. >> what about. >> know, i've never been >> you know, i've never been that on fried bread. that keen on fried bread. >> what do you in your veggie? >> what do you have on your fry 7 up. up? >> well, it's exactly the same. you veggie bacon. you you can get veggie bacon. you can sausages. you can get veggie sausages. you know, you beans. >> wouldn't your black pudding. >> obviously. >> obviously. >> no, a black pudding. you >> no, not a black pudding. you can black can actually get veggie black pudding. you wouldn't have it, but, beans and egg and but, you know, beans and egg and toast fried. toast and fried. >> lovely. >> lovely. >> so do like a scrambled >> so do you like a scrambled rather than a. >> i like a scrambled but fried egg on a, on a fry up barbecue sauce like, or brown sauce or like, or brown sauce. >> no ketchup and lots and lots of beans. >> that's the way it should be. that makes me sad. i think it's an iconic dish. it's part of being british. >> is having au hash brown english. >> adrian's been in touch. hi. adrian says love full adrian says i love a full english, toast?
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english, fried bread or toast? must hash browns . yeah. must have hash browns. yeah. hash browns. yeah. >> i'm mad on hash browns. >> i'm not mad on hash browns. >> i'm not mad on hash browns. >> oh, no, i love a hash brown. i only have it once a week, though. >> yeah, yeah, well, i think that's the trick. >> i think you have a weekend >> i think if you have a weekend treat, it's a really nice idea. but there's a chef who's but there's a chef here who's also perfectly also saying it's perfectly possible traditional possible to create a traditional fry little more fry up that's a little more guilt little more guilt guilt free, a little more guilt free. i use the free. yeah, so i use the air fryer for my sausages. now, they're bit better for they're a little bit better for you . yeah. so it is possible, you. yeah. so it is possible, just to you off your just to put you off your breakfast, you're thinking breakfast, if you're thinking of gorging morning, has gorging this morning, fred has been apparently been in touch, saying apparently there million rats in there are 120 million rats in london. so there you go. >> and xiangqi commander's been in touch saying i had a pet rat. they are so lovely. would sit on my shoulder watching tv, cleaning my ears , then in the cleaning my ears, then in the kitchen i would run a tap and jump kitchen i would run a tap and jump off and they would shower under the tap. they put on my leg. no >> probably not. they're very intelligent. >> the rat would shower . >> the rat would shower. >> the rat would shower. >> yeah, they have to have a wash under the tap. >> right. okay >> all right. okay >> all right. okay >> there you go. change your
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mind haven't you? mind now, haven't you? >> don't >> well, i don't know. >> well, i don't know. >> that sounds cute, i'm >> that sounds quite cute, i'm not about them cleaning not sure about them cleaning your yeah. no your ears, though. yeah. no anyway, those views coming your ears, though. yeah. no anonay, those views coming your ears, though. yeah. no anon the those views coming your ears, though. yeah. no anon the fry those views coming your ears, though. yeah. no anon the fry up.>se views coming your ears, though. yeah. no anon the fry up. so views coming your ears, though. yeah. no anon the fry up. so the vs coming your ears, though. yeah. no anon the fry up. so the rats ming your ears, though. yeah. no anon the fry up. so the rats orng in on the fry up. so the rats or anything you'd like to talk about today at gbnews.com/yoursay >> metropolitan gbnews.com/yoursay >> apologisedatropolitan gbnews.com/yoursay >> apologisedatrocausing has apologised for causing further offence with an apology about officer's use of the about an officer's use of the terms openly jewish to an anti—semitism campaigner who happened to be near a pro—palestine march. this is what happened. you are quite openly up to it. >> this is a pro—palestinian march, right? i'm not accusing you of anything, but i'm worried about the reaction to your presence . presence. >> presence. >> well, the chief executive of campaign against anti—semitism was wearing a kippah, skullcap when he was stopped from crossing a road near the demonstration in london last saturday. >> let's talk to former scotland yard detective peter bleksley, who is here. morning, peter. good morning. watching that interchange exchange. i mean, what do you what's your view? it's yet another appalling
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exchange between a metropolitan police officer and somebody who is expressing concerns about these pro—palestinian marches . these pro—palestinian marches. >> i mean, let's break down some of the language where he expresses concern about his presence. there surely a police officer who is intending to keep the peace would be concerned for that person's safety and might suggest to them that there might be a better place where they can observe the march from where they could be better protected, not about their presence . surely not about their presence. surely there is an absolute right of somebody to observe a protest that they fundamentally disagree with. it's appalling. and the metropolitan police are increasingly being regarded by many swathes of the london pubuc many swathes of the london public as taking a side , and public as taking a side, and it's not their side. >> and he also threatened this man later on with arrest. and that's a really important element, isn't it? >> this story, it's utterly
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appalling . appalling. >> people have a right to go and express their contrary view to a demonstrator . the express their contrary view to a demonstrator. the man is simply standing there and observing. if there is any kind of police duty to be fulfilled here, it is a duty of keeping that man safe whilst allowing him to observe, and by his very presence be there. contrary to the views of those who are protesting . those who are protesting. >> i mean, there's the concern would seem to be, well , you would seem to be, well, you know, it could cause some trouble . well, presumably the trouble. well, presumably the trouble. well, presumably the trouble is concerned about would be coming from the other side. therefore you police, there them more strongly, vigorously, wouldn't you? >> robustly , robustly. and we >> robustly, robustly. and we know through the number of arrests that have been made whilst these marches have gone on since october last year, that some people that go there express vile, murderous, genocidal views and want to see
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an end of the state of israel, many people have been arrested for displaying placards for chanting and for other crimes connected to these protests . the connected to these protests. the metropolitan police are quite fundamentally sacrificing their independence. i think it's very difficult for the met police to now turn round and say we police without fear or favour, because there appears to be a lot of favour being granted towards certain people, expressing certain people, expressing certain political views . certain political views. >> i mean, the wording of this is really interesting. you look openly jewish. i mean, it sounds as though there's something wrong with looking openly jewish. you can imagine a police officer saying, look, you're openly drunk, you're openly hi, you're you know, there's something wrong with your behaviour. there's wrong behaviour. there's nothing wrong with looking if you with looking religious. if you are. through central are. and walking through central london or being openly black or openly brown or openly gay or openly brown or openly gay or openly straight or openly supporting one football team or another. >> and so it goes on and on and
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on and on and on. this language is beyond clumsy . it's utterly is beyond clumsy. it's utterly appalling. and this comes from a sergeant , a appalling. and this comes from a sergeant, a police leader. 86% of police officers are in the lower rank of constable . that's lower rank of constable. that's a sergeant. that's a supervisor. no wonder the metropolitan police's reputation has absolutely tanked. >> i mean, that's the i did see something online last night where someone sort of took the words and removed jew or jewish and put black in there and said , and put black in there and said, you know, would this ever happen? you can't, you know, a black man cannot observe a, a racist march or whatever it may be because you're open , you be because you're open, you know, you're obviously black and you may cause problems by being here. i mean, that would never happen. and so it just seemed remarkable that it would happen when it comes to someone's religion. share your religion. i don't share your confidence, steven, you say confidence, steven, when you say it happen, look at it would never happen, look at the look the police. the look at the met police. >> it's utterly shambolic in >> now it's utterly shambolic in regards to this public order protest policing. and i know and
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i read it every day on social media where police officers who quite courageously and some of them often thoughtfully step forward and talk about the complexities of public order policing. they're making it more complex. they're making it more difficult because so many people think they are fundamentally not impartial . all that they've impartial. all that they've chosen a side. and many of us quite rightfully, think we know what side they're on. >> when you say they've chosen a side, is that coming from is it coming from the rank and file? is it from from the is it coming from from the senior members of the met, or is it that middle management level policing is a disciplined organisation many organisation with many, many ranks the sergeant? ranks above the sergeant? >> that's they're speaking so dreadfully to that jewish man. these orders, these directions come from above. these public order protests are a huge policing operation. i understandably, with some times thousands of police officers on the ground. but there are
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instructions handed down. there are rules that strictly should be applied and there is a way to do it. and there is also a way, as we quite clearly see here, how not to do it. >> let's get your reaction to this statement. should we, peter? >> because there have been two. this is the initial statement from the metropolitan police saying in recent weeks, we've seen new trend emerge, with seen a new trend emerge, with those opposed to the main protests appearing along the route to express their views. the fact that those who do this often film themselves while doing they must know doing so suggests they must know that their presence is provocative, that they're inviting a response, and that they're increasing the likelihood of an altercation . likelihood of an altercation. >> well, the deleted that and then put out a new statement saying we've reflected the saying, we've reflected on the strength to our strength of response to our previous statement in an effort to make a point about the policing protests, we cause policing of protests, we cause further offence. this was never policing of protests, we cause furtintention:e. this was never policing of protests, we cause furtintention .. this was never policing of protests, we cause furtintention . we|is was never policing of protests, we cause furtintention . we removedever policing of protests, we cause furtintention . we removed that our intention. we removed that statement and we apologise. being jewish is not a provocation. jewish londoners must be able to feel safe in this city. peter.
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>> it's utterly abysmal, isn't it? that first statement, which they've deleted , of course, but they've deleted, of course, but is now there forever and a day, because so many of us have saved it. it's fundamentally appalled looking. people have a right to go to a protest and express a contrary view . we are supposed contrary view. we are supposed to live in a democracy where the police are supposed to impose the law without fear or favour, and to actually allow protest and to actually allow protest and counter protest. if somebody stumbles across a protest or somebody deliberately attends a protest to offer a contrary view, that is a fundamental right enshrined in law and now with these kind of statements that come out via the police media machine, where so many people with all these degrees, because you remember now how we have such a highly educated police service because they all need to have degrees . well, i've need to have degrees. well, i've got to tell you, there's so much about policing that can't be
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learned books and that these learned in books and that these people fundamentally failed people are fundamentally failed to grasp. >> okay, peter, see you to grasp. >> okay, peter, good to see you. thank you very much indeed. if you've got a view on that , let you've got a view on that, let us know. gb views gb news .com/ your say we're still getting used to that. >> yes, we. »- >> yes, we. >> and now a man has set himself on fire outside the courthouse in new york, where former us president donald trump's hush money trial is underway. >> police identified the man as maxwell azarello from florida in his 30s. he's been taken to hospital and the latest we're getting from the police on this is that he's in a critical condition. >> well, the trump campaign released a statement this afternoon offering its condolences to the traumatised witnesses after the blaze. >> earlier, we spoke to us political analyst eric ham. >> no one ever thought that she would see an individual who would see an individual who would actually set himself on fire. and so i can only imagine how that must have been. just deeply traumatised, traumatic for many of the people who were
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there and were actually had to witness that, just kudos to those who actually jumped into action to try to save that man's life, i mean , the thing is here, life, i mean, the thing is here, it's very difficult to understand what the man was trying to achieve, isn't it? his i mean, he was sort of anti—trump and anti—biden, it would seem all all at the same time. i mean, clearly a disturbed individual . disturbed individual. >> oh, absolutely. i mean, i think it's a horrible, a horrific situation that we saw play horrific situation that we saw play out today. and of course, no one knows really what was going through this individual's mind to make him do something like that. but of course, we know if the idea was just to protest , you know, his protest, you know, his conditions or to, you know, illustrate just how deeply, problematic the country is right now. i think it there were probably more constructive ways to do it. and so i think that's what we see playing out. >> and for people who haven't
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seen the videos, i wouldn't suggest you do because it is very distressing and traumatising. you just traumatising. can you just explain what happens? explain exactly what happens? because it does take quite a few seconds, doesn't it, before people start to realise what what happened ? what has happened? >> well, i mean i wasn't there, so i mean , you know, i don't so i mean, you know, i don't know, i, i or what what was , know, i, i or what what was, what led this individual to, to do what he did in terms of how he just set himself on fire. we do know that he, because of the trial there is a number of first responders that are there just for the sake of the trial. and we know there are protesters demonstrations. so it's a very locked down situation . it's, you locked down situation. it's, you know, press are everywhere. and so we know that they were able to move in very quickly. but still it's just a very, distressing situation . distressing situation. >> well, world leaders call for calm and de—escalation in the middle east after israel launched air strikes against
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iran. >> according to reports, three drones were shot down, explosions heard at an airbase , explosions heard at an airbase, all near the city of isfahan. >> well, the strike was thought to be in response to last weekend's attack, when iran fired a barrage of drones and missiles at israel. >> let's talk to retired british army officer and defence analyst , colonel simon diggins. good to see you. this morning, simon. and we do seem to be in a situation now where we still have very little clarity as to exactly what happened. and yet both sides are remaining comparative , overly calm . comparative, overly calm. >> no, quite. it's very interesting. the israelis very give way very little information about what they've done. so, for example, attack that example, the attack that preceded the iranian barrage, the attack onto the iranian consulate in damascus. israel didn't claim the attack nor did they comment on it. and they very rarely comment on attacks they've carried out into syria or into into iraq. now iran,
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when it attacked israel, was the opposite. it it made a huge noise about it because it wanted to make a point about what it was trying to do. but no, we don't know very much about the actual details because the israelis aren't giving it away. and in the interests and it's been in the interests of the iranians to play the whole down. talked whole thing down. they talked about quadcopters , about several quadcopters, assaults launched from inside iran , from disaffected groups, iran, from disaffected groups, pro—israeli , disaffected groups. pro—israeli, disaffected groups. but they've tried to play it down. and the israelis aren't giving very much away. this all helps, though , in terms of the helps, though, in terms of the de—escalation, because clearly this is an incident where if the rhetoric increased, then the danger of escalation grows. >> i mean, the response from both countries is really interesting, isn't it, because it does allow them to come back down that escalation ladder , so down that escalation ladder, so to speak. and would you would you say that iran and israel feel more comfortable in the shadow wars that they have been partaking in than this state on
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state action that we've seen in the last week or so ? the last week or so? >> eddie, i think that's absolutely the point. up until now, there have been operating this kind grey of this kind of grey zone of assassinations , use of proxies, assassinations, use of proxies, lots of propaganda and that sort of area. and they've so far avoided state on state conflict, israel, we presume it's israel, broke that taboo when it attacked the consulate. and while the consulate was being misused, it's been used as a base for, for iranian irgc generals and the like. nonetheless, the convention and is a convention is that embassies are sovereign territory . and so by attacking territory. and so by attacking that consulate effectively, israel had broken the taboo about attacking, iranian state territory. and so iran then felt the need to respond in the way in which it which it did. and israel has gone back. but so they broke that taboo. but now, as you say, they're kind of they're re—establishing what they're re—establishing what they call a position of kind of mutual deterrence, which is that we away from each
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we will stay away from each other's state territory, but below or beneath the below the line or beneath the line , grey warfare, hybrid line, grey warfare, hybrid warfare, whatever you choose to use will continue. >> how much, pressure do you think there's been on, i mean, particularly israel, because obviously our lines of communication with iran are very difficult , but from from the difficult, but from from the west, i mean, from the visit from lord cameron. we've obviously had lots being said from the white house. will that have made an impact? >> no, i think enormous impact. it's one of the leading israeli commentator this morning he said he said that netanyahu was correct , uncharacteristically correct, uncharacteristically quiet. and i think people have right from the very beginning of this conflict, there has been this conflict, there has been this concern that, you know, that it would spread into something much more regional, much more impactful across across the middle east and therefore across the rest of the rest of the world. so when we have had this exchange, he's been working very hard to de—escalate and netanyahu been working very hard to de—beenate and netanyahu been working very hard to de—been phonednd netanyahu been working very hard to de—been phoned up,1etanyahu been working very hard to de—been phoned up, satinyahu been working very hard to de—been phoned up, sat on,hu has been phoned up, sat on, visited people, said to him, you
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know , control this. i mean, know, control this. i mean, anthony blinken said yesterday that , you know, they want this that, you know, they want this to be de—escalated. israel is to be supported , protected, but be supported, protected, but this should be de—escalated. and then for the focus to return to what they see as the key issue with what going on in gaza. with what is going on in gaza. so i think netanyahu been so i think netanyahu has been under enormous pressure externally, internally, his pressures are slightly different. i mean, there have been many members in his cabinet who been arguing for who have been arguing for a massive, decisive response against iran . and so he's had to against iran. and so he's had to face them down and also without giving the sense that he has no control of what goes on in his own country, also recognise control of what goes on in his owrworld:ry, also recognise control of what goes on in his owrworld:ry, a|which ognise the world pressure which has been try and to de—escalate been to try and to de—escalate the situation. >> yes, it's a difficult balance for netanyahu, colonel, would you to say that we you say it's safe to say that we can breathe a sigh of relief with this, that we have come back from the brink, or is it a case that iran is, as prides itself, hasn't it , case that iran is, as prides itself, hasn't it, on case that iran is, as prides itself, hasn't it , on its itself, hasn't it, on its strategic patience? do you think it could be a case that they're
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just biding their time and we'll see a response? but it will be in several time. in several weeks time. >> they they might try and >> they might they might try and do that. i think strategically, actually, more actually, the much more interesting thing to come out of the this, exchange was that the this, this exchange was that the this, this exchange was that the coalition, the extraordinary coalition of basically of sunni arab states linked with the us, unked arab states linked with the us, linked with israel in order to provide and effectively to protect israel against an iranian attack. now, that's the real strategic prize. so when biden spoke to netanyahu and said, take the win , he didn't said, take the win, he didn't just mean that a tactical defeat of that barrage of iranian missiles and drones, what he actually said was the real win is actually we've now got this whole grouping of people, despite the very deep concerns many arabs about what's many arabs have about what's going on in gaza. nonetheless, they came together in to order defeat iran and actually stop iran. that's the real strategic prize for netanyahu, whether iran has also effectively had to sort of lick, lick, lick its wounds and recognise just how much, anger it's caused in the
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middle east and how angry people are with them and therefore how they they're going to be resisted. again, i think it's hard tell there there are hard to tell there there are more regimes try to more complex regimes to try to try and analyse, but those are the strategic of gains the real strategic sort of gains and losses over, over this, not just that tactical defeat the just that tactical defeat of the missile . missile attack. >> okay. colonel diggins, good to see you this morning. thank you very much indeed . appreciate you very much indeed. appreciate that. loads of you are getting in about the situation in touch about the situation down in london with, a man being threatened with arrest because he happened to be jewish and was near a palestinian protest march , starbreaker says should a protest that is a danger to the pubuc protest that is a danger to the public be taking place in public? >> lots of people . >> lots of people. >> lots of people. >> it's a valid point. yeah. and a lot of people saying , get a lot of people saying, get peter peter bleksley back in the mic millom and get peter back to work in the metropolitan police . work in the metropolitan police. well, i don't think he'd want to 90, well, i don't think he'd want to go, and peter cahill says peter bleksley gets it. been there, seen it , done
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bleksley gets it. been there, seen it, done it. and there's a there's a lot of that. it's the whole idea of you need sort of people with experience who get on with it, no nonsense approach i >> -- >> yeah. i wonder if that is where we're lacking. >> yeah, well do keep those views coming in on any of the stories that we're talking about this gbnews.com this morning. gbnews.com slash usa, now get a on usa, now let's get a check on your annie . your weather with annie. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news. >> good morning. welcome to your latest gb news weather update. this weekend will be dry for many of us. the best of the sunshine will be in the west, particularly through today and across eastern areas. actually, there's be quite a cool there's going to be quite a cool feeling breeze with this northeasterly off northeasterly wind coming off the that will bring the north sea that will bring some cloud to eastern areas through morning. elsewhere some cloud to eastern areas through it morning. elsewhere some cloud to eastern areas through it should1ing. elsewhere some cloud to eastern areas through it should stay elsewhere some cloud to eastern areas through it should stay dryewhere some cloud to eastern areas through it should stay dry and re though, it should stay dry and bright. however, head bright. however, as we head towards lunchtime , i think more towards lunchtime, i think more in the way of cloud will bubble up western areas, parts up across western areas, parts of the midlands as
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of wales into the midlands as well, but it should dry well, but it should stay dry through the day and it through much of the day and it will feel fairly pleasant the will feel fairly pleasant in the sunshine this evening will feel fairly pleasant in the sunsistart this evening will feel fairly pleasant in the sunsistart see this evening will feel fairly pleasant in the sunsistart see partszvening we'll start to see parts of scotland some arrive as scotland see some rain arrive as this of pushes in from this area of rain pushes in from the that will bring the north. that will bring thicker to areas of thicker cloud to many areas of scotland as and that area scotland as well. and that area of going to of cloud is going to sink southwards through this evening, covering many areas of northern england. will england. and that will likely sit of sit across parts of the midlands, into the midlands, possibly into the southeast. by sunday morning. this drizzly rain will likely affect northern areas of england, southern scotland as well through sunday morning as well. but it's going to be fairly light. but where the skies stay clear, it's going to be another chilly night. tonight we of frost we could see a touch of frost developing as developing once again. as i said, a bit of said, there is a bit of uncertainty how widespread uncertainty in how widespread this be. could this cloud will be. it could cover more southeastern areas, but the progresses, but as the day progresses, i think there'll be better chance of brighter spells developing, particularly the south particularly across the south and the northwest, where it's actually be warmest actually going to be the warmest through the rest of the weekend. however, central however, for this central suther however, for this central slither , it will likely slither, it will likely stay fairly and little bit fairly dull and a little bit cooler much of the day, with cooler for much of the day, with a chance of drizzly rain.
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way because it's a you know we'll an effect on the we'll have an effect on the title ethan he title race ethan nwaneri he played aged and 181 played aged 15 years and 181 days in september 2022 against brentford. remember rooney was playing at 16 back in 2000, 2002. so rooney's in the top 20. this one will go in at number two. i believe if he plays, i think there's a good chance he's going to he's going to start the match. but gary gary o'neil, his manager who's suffering this having to juggle all these injury he's injury crisis, says i hope he's had fun with us on friday had more fun with us on friday when he trained with us, than he would science. would have had in science. >> think, yeah, i think >> and so i think, yeah, i think that's a slightly reckon it depends what science it is. >> i mean, physics is quite fun wasn't it? >> yeah, but i love science. >> yeah, but i love science. >> yeah, but i love science. >> yeah, it was good. was good. >> but i mean best of luck to him. i mean what to be him. i mean what a thing to be doing at 15. >> exactly. periodic >> exactly. from the periodic table the league table to the premier league table to the premier league table . table. >> @- @ worked on that >> oh, you've worked on that one, you? one, didn't you? >> formula is there. >> the formula is there. >> the formula is there. >> get out. >> oh. get out. >> no , it'll be an >> but no, it'll be an extraordinary story, i think. and look, obviously you get and look, he's obviously you get these sometimes who are these players sometimes who are a have growth a bit who have growth spurts. they maybe grow a little bit
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earlier you might earlier than, than you might expect their age. he's expect for their age. he's obviously up to it because i don't care what anyone says , no don't care what anyone says, no matter players you've matter how many players you've got, being promoted at got, if you're being promoted at the age to play a first the age of 15 to play a first team game against arsenal, and as bearing on the as i say, a huge bearing on the title arsenal to win title race. arsenal need to win today. i think it's today. otherwise i think it's curtains in terms of curtains for them in terms of the league. the premier league. but brilliant we'll know brilliant story and we'll know tonight whether on. the tonight whether he's on. but the thing kick off. thing is it's 730 kick off. i mean he's got i hope he mean if he's got i hope he hasn't got paper round in the hasn't got a paper round in the morning anything morning or anything like that because to it's because he's going to be it's going a late finisher for going to be a late finisher for him isn't it. yeah. he's lucky he's not a school night i suppose. >> well well yeah. lovely. that made of a hero in made you a bit of a hero in assembly wouldn't it? >> me, there >> oh goodness me, there was a kid, with who >> oh goodness me, there was a kid, playing with who >> oh goodness me, there was a kid, playing our with who >> oh goodness me, there was a kid, playing our locali who >> oh goodness me, there was a kid, playing our local club, was playing for our local club, gillingham, he gillingham, very young, and he just assumed this just automatically assumed this exalted and why exalted status. and. and why not? think not? well, yeah, i think he played glenn hoddle played against glenn hoddle in a testimonial like played against glenn hoddle in a testirit nial like played against glenn hoddle in a testirit was. like played against glenn hoddle in a testirit was. absolutely. like played against glenn hoddle in a testirit was. absolutely. that's that. it was. absolutely. that's how back we were going how far back we were going actually. but, but extraordinary how far back we were going actuaiand ut, but extraordinary how far back we were going actuaiand ut, lsay,xtraordinary how far back we were going actuaiand ut, lsay,xtraor> well, sad. >> well, sad. >> but you know what? >> yes, but you know what? she got the quarterfinals clay got to the quarterfinals on clay in up last
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in stuttgart, backing up last week's well . she week's performance as well. she lost swiatek, who is lost to eva swiatek, who is a four slam winner, she four time grand slam winner, she took a tie break in the took it to a tie break in the first set. i think that's a pretty respectable , pretty respectable, representation of what she's done or where she's at in terms of her injury problems. i mean, don't forget she dropped to 303in the world. this is a us open winner early . and so these open winner early. and so these notable victories, she's chalking up over the last couple of weeks are helping her to rise up the up the rankings. and, you know, it's just in time. she's playing these clay court matches. just in time matches. it's just in time for the french open. as we the french open. and then as we know that, less so know soon after that, less so i think 3 or 4 weeks that, think 3 or 4 weeks after that, we've wimbledon. could be we've got wimbledon. it could be she's return to top she's timing her return to top level tennis just at the right time, because , you know, you time, because, you know, you need to be in some decent form to go into those matches. i don't she's going to be don't think she's going to be troubling slams next troubling the slams in the next couple, by the couple, but who knows. by the time she gets match fitness time she gets the match fitness under and she the under her belt and she gets the match match practice in, then who could who knows? september. she could have a tilt at the us open, which she famously which of course she famously won age was back in, age 18. i think it was back in, back in and she didn't
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back in 2021, and she didn't even a set the even drop a set on the way there. so we she's on her there. so we hope she's on her way still plenty of way back. but still plenty of work for her. work to do for her. >> , let's have a at >> okay, let's have a look at the should yeah . the f1. should we, yeah. >> that's well, look, max >> that's right. well, look, max verstappen's won the sprint race. now, we talked about. oh, it's a new edition . it's a new it's a new edition. it's a new addition to the f1. so we saw about that. we discussed the snooker earlier on didn't we. and discussed how sports need snooker earlier on didn't we. anevolveiscussed how sports need snooker earlier on didn't we. anevolve .cussed how sports need snooker earlier on didn't we. anevolve . welled how sports need snooker earlier on didn't we. anevolve . well the )w sports need snooker earlier on didn't we. anevolve . well the sprint rts need snooker earlier on didn't we. anevolve . well the sprint race eed to evolve. well the sprint race is a new addition that. is a new addition to that. verstappen has just pipped or yesterday pipped. lewis hamilton to that. we've got qualifying starting at 8:00 this morning. i still would back max verstappen , still would back max verstappen, darryl in the gallery has a massive grand prix f1 fan and i think he'd go along with me in saying that a couple of weeks ago. i think he was three grand prix's we've had so far. verstappen's won two of them. i think it's still going to be quite processional. be quite processional. it might be interesting. quite processional. it might be intere hamilton ferrari, lewis hamilton joins ferrari, but china's set to but nonetheless china's set to put on a magnificent show as you might, might expect, and but encouraging lewis hamilton , encouraging for lewis hamilton, second in the sprint race signs of life there signs that he
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still has the ambition, at the of life there signs that he still of|s the ambition, at the of life there signs that he still of 39,ie ambition, at the of life there signs that he still of 39, toambition, at the of life there signs that he still of 39, to g0)ition, at the of life there signs that he still of 39, to g0)iticandt the of life there signs that he still of 39, to g0)iticand wine age of 39, to go on and win more, more honours in the sport. and he wants overtake michael and he wants to overtake michael schumacher, those schumacher, of course, on those record wins. schumacher, of course, on those rec> i can't believe he's 39. >> was the >> i know he was the breakthrough wasn't he ? breakthrough act, wasn't he? yeah, was a breakthrough act. yeah, he was a breakthrough act. when? that when? when doesn't seem that long time waits for no man. >> no, no time waits for no man. >> no, no time waits for no man. >> auburn all woman old. >> auburn all woman shows old. well know does. well yeah i know it does. indeed. lovely. adrian. indeed. indeed. lovely. adrian. thank indeed. thank you very much indeed. >> you . >> thank you. >> thank you. >> right. we've got much more coming up for you, including talking to the shadow policing minister alex norris. that's in a couple minutes
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two. winston, let's have a look at the labour before we chat to them. should we, the hiring social influencers. >> well yeah. so labour are turning to influencers to try and win young voters through tiktok, they've hired a dedicated employee to work with influencers to send out a positive message about labour, and, and yeah they've, they've realising that there's a lot of people that are using it. so so yeah they're trying to. >> well i mean i'm not i'm not surprised . i'm not surprised. surprised. i'm not surprised. >> yeah. we know that. we know 18 24 year olds almost 18 to 24 year olds almost primarily their news from primarily get their news from tiktok now. and social media and tiktok now. and social media and tiktok highly tiktok has become highly influential in that particular demographic. the only thing i would say is, is it will it translate to votes? because, i mean, older voters, we know they turn up and they vote and they do they're supposed do, do what they're supposed to do, but less but younger people are less engaged. soi but younger people are less engaged. so i mean, you engaged. yeah. so i mean, you have to really i think you shouldn't shouldn't it shouldn't you shouldn't put it all in on one particular demographic. mean, need to demographic. i mean, you need to have a balanced approach.
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although people are saying that labour does have more policies that benefit younger people. oh, yeah. yeah >> so that's that is their demographic to an extent. isn't it lovely. right. thank you both . don't go anywhere because we're coming back to you, but in the meantime , we are joined by the meantime, we are joined by shadow policing minister alex norris , who joins us now. good norris, who joins us now. good morning. nice to see you, i want to kick off with this incident that's being reported all over the papers this morning. we've been talking about it a lot this morning. and the boss in effect of the, campaign against anti—semitism , being stopped at anti—semitism, being stopped at anti—semitism, being stopped at a protest, a pro—palestine protest in london by a member of the metropolitan police because he was openly jewish. she used their terms, this cannot be right, can it? i mean, and what would labour do to change how the metropolitan police seems to be operating at the moment ?
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be operating at the moment? >> well, first of all, morning, stephen. thank you for having me . yeah. i think it is abundantly clear that what's happened in this case is wrong, the met police have now accepted it's wrong. so that's, you know, that is a good thing. you know, it isn't for politicians to do operational policing, as you know. you know, police must feel that they can, keep safe and to organise these types of, public events in a way that is safe. however, it must, you know, there can be no place for hate in this. and if there is racism in this. and if there is racism in this. and if there is racism in this case, anti—semitism, there cannot be that sort of thing. so you know, what's happenedis thing. so you know, what's happened is wrong. and we're glad that the police have accepted , okay. miss accepted that, okay. miss norris, here to talk accepted that, okay. miss norris shopliftinge to talk accepted that, okay. miss norris shoplifting . to talk accepted that, okay. miss norris shoplifting . this|lk accepted that, okay. miss norris shoplifting . this is about shoplifting. this is analysis by your party revealed more than 1000 shoplifting offences are being committed across england and wales every single day . how would the labour single day. how would the labour party fix this ? party fix this? >> hi, ali. yeah. i mean, what we're seeing is staggering
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levels, you know, nearly a thousand incidents every single day of shoplifting . that's on day of shoplifting. that's on top of pushing a thousand incidents of violence and abuse against retail workers every day, well , you know, these day, as well, you know, these these things haven't happened by accident. a direct accident. they're a direct impacts of having cut, as the government 10,000 government have 10,000 neighbourhood police about the £200 limit where crimes are theft under £200 has been downgraded. so for us we want to reverse those changes. our commitments 13,000 more police and police community support officers in communities. so they're they're detecting and deterring crime . and then to deterring crime. and then to remove that limit to say to people, we're going to take shoplifting serious , whatever shoplifting serious, whatever it is. course, we're is. and of course, and we're pleased have the pleased to have moved the government after government on this after years and years of campaigning, we want standalone offence want to see a standalone offence around violence against retail workers. think if you put workers. we think if you put those three things in place, you could dent in this could really make a dent in this issue there's actually a bigger >> but there's actually a bigger question there, question here, isn't there, as to i mean, people aren't just doing because you doing it because they're, you know, they can now. and know, they they can now. and this idea that it's a free pass for shoplifters, there's
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something bigger going on, isn't there ? there? >> no. well, i mean, i'm not sure i quite agree , you know, sure i quite agree, you know, what we do know now is that certainly with the under £200, let's face it, that covers a lot of things. that covers your airpods, your jeans, your football shirts and that actually, whether it's people who are stealing to feed a habit and then reselling to in order to get for money that or what we've seen a huge explosion of in recent years , which is in recent years, which is organised crime. realising that this is a great and fertile area of for so they're, of work for them. so they're, you cases you know, we're seeing cases where retailers of where i talk to retailers of gangs go on a weekend where i talk to retailers of gangjust go on a weekend where i talk to retailers of gangjust go go on a weekend where i talk to retailers of gangjust go up go on a weekend where i talk to retailers of gangjust go up the on a weekend where i talk to retailers of gangjust go up the m1 a weekend where i talk to retailers of gangjust go up the m1 andeekend where i talk to retailers of gangjust go up the m1 and down and just go up the m1 and down the and get off at every the m1 and get off at every junction and those shops junction and turn those shops over nothing over because they think nothing will think that will happen and they think that this really soft crime will happen and they think that this and sally soft crime will happen and they think that this and untilsoft crime will happen and they think that this and until you crime will happen and they think that this and until you take; type. and until you take the field that's not field and say, that's not acceptable, going acceptable, we're going to keep seeing of you seeing this. and of course, you know that leads to is know what that then leads to is a terrible environment for staff. to work a terrible environment for still. to work a terrible environment for still if to work a terrible environment for still if that, to work a terrible environment for still if that, if to work a terrible environment for still if that, if they're to work in it if that, if they're subject to violence abuse. subject to violence and abuse. and we've my and then what we've seen in my town shops because town where we lose shops because retailers think retailers look at it and think they're financially they're not financially viable, you to
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you know, that's devastating to communities like mine. >> mr i wanted to ask you about this story about labour wooing influencers an to win influencers in an effort to win younger voters through tiktok. so you've hired a dedicated employee to work with influencers to kind of seed positive messages about sir keir starmer on platforms like tiktok and instagram. and you're also offering training, we understand, to labour candidates on how they can produce influencer style content, tell us a bit more about this plan and do you think it's a good use of party money? >> well, first of all, i think of all the parliamentary party and future labour candidates. i'm probably the number one person who needs that social media support and training. i can't say i'm on tiktok. i'm not even on instagram, which gets me pelters from my mates. nevertheless, these are important outlets now where i think it was. candace previously just said that for young people, that's where they're getting their you we want their news, you know, so we want to talk of all to talk to people of all demographics our offer demographics to put our offer forward . so you have go where
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forward. so you have to go where they so in this case, you they are, so in this case, you know, we know that these are there's been a huge rise, i have to influencers and to say, influencers and influencer not influencer culture is not something awful lot something i know an awful lot about. something i know an awful lot about . but we know that they about. but we do know that they are important. so are really, really important. so i a surprise i don't think it's a surprise that parties ours that political parties like ours are space. are entering into this space. >> , and i can totally >> yeah, and i can totally understand that. you understand that. but do you think will trust what think people will trust what they see online when they know that are taking cash that that people are taking cash from political parties in order to promote these sorts of videos? i mean, at what point, what's the difference between an authentic endorsement and something being deceptive ? something being deceptive? >> well, what we've seen in recent years, which is really important , is recent years, which is really important, is that for influencers, if they are taking paid content, they have to they have to indicate that and put that on their on their messages. so those who are following them can see what is something they when they say they're using something that , that that's a something that, that that's a brand they're using because brand that they're using because of because it's of their choice or because it's a partnership. a paid partnership. so there will distinction. there will be that distinction. there already so
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already is that distinction. so that's a, you know, that gives information so people can make their judgements their informed judgements based on quite we see >> i'm quite sure we shall see you dancing about on tiktok before. before too long alex. you know you're going to be doing it. you know you're going to be doing it. really good to see you. thank you very much indeed. >> thanks for having me. >> thanks for having me. >> yes, i hate all of that . >> yes, i hate all of that. >> yes, i hate all of that. >> well, you did you did one with me i did, yeah, but that was on your tiktok. >> i wouldn't know how to. >> i wouldn't know how to. >> do a dancing >> you wouldn't do a dancing video with me? >> no, mean, it's just >> no, no, i mean, it's just like . like. >> i'd love that. >> i'd love that. >> i've. i've interest >> i've. i've no real interest in that's the thing. in it. that's the thing. >> you'd love it as well. i know you. >> i think you've reached a point where just like, >> i think you've reached a poi|why1ere just like, >> i think you've reached a poi|why bother? just like, >> i think you've reached a p0lino,�* bother? just like, >> i think you've reached a p0lino,�* botpeople just like, >> i think you've reached a p0lino,�* botpeople lovelike, >> i think you've reached a p0lino,�* botpeople love you on >> no, the people love you on that one. no, the people would love would. love you. no they would. >> anyway, don't go anywhere. >> we've got more papers coming anywhere. >> with'e got more papers coming anywhere. >> with winston ore papers coming anywhere. >> with winston ore pcandace �*ning up with winston and candace in just
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right. let's go through the papers . then once right. let's go through the papers. then once again right. let's go through the papers . then once again with papers. then once again with candace and winston , now, candace and winston, now, where's this phone story that we've been talking about? >> telegraph. page 12. oh, there you go. >> yeah. so this is a story in the telegraph. the actress. so sophie winkleman, she wants to ban technology in classrooms completely. she thinks that schools kind of use it as a gimmick to impress parents, to say, we have all this technology . but she thinks it doesn't really. it's not, well, evidence that it improves their learning. and thinks that screens that it improves their learning. ancdamagingthinks that screens that it improves their learning. ancdamaging .iinks that screens that it improves their learning. ancdamaging . and that screens that it improves their learning. ancdamaging . and i1at screens that it improves their learning. ancdamaging . and i knowreens that it improves their learning. ancdamaging . and i know that. are damaging. and i know that people have a variety of views on this as well. you know, how much should younger children be able use smartphones? you able to use smartphones? you know, what is doing their know, what is it doing to their childhood? it affecting their childhood? is it affecting their mental health? i know there's a lot that's out of lot of data that's come out of the us that said that girls are particularly impacted particularly negatively impacted by social media by using social media excessively, personally , excessively, and me personally, i've started to find my views becoming a bit more liberal on this because i just, i becoming a bit more liberal on this because ijust, i don't i think we have to help them
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navigate this reality. i think things have become very suffocating for children. i think we're we're sort of going through a phase now where we're very of world around very afraid of the world around us, there is so us, maybe because there is so much uncertainty in the world and all new, and there is all this new, unprecedented technology. and i think parents, the think for a lot of parents, the urge is to just sort of shut it down. i wonder if when down. but i just wonder if when they to age 18, they'll they get to age 18, if they'll be able properly because be able to cope properly because they just haven't learnt those skills now . skills are just now. >> winstead well, i've just banned my teenage son from his phone, from his computer, from everything on the. yeah, on the bafis everything on the. yeah, on the basis that he's just had his school report and he's looking like he's on a downward trend and i can see he used to read for hours, like he said, love reading all the different books. and then he's been using the phones the computers the phones and the computers for the last it's last couple of years. and it's literally affected his his literally affected his both his attention his desire to want attention and his desire to want to read. now just to read. and now he's just constantly can't help it. constantly he can't help it. these apps and these these these apps and these phones, are made phones, they actually are made to release little bits of dopamine. so you become addicted to it. there's a thing called
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dopamine labs in america where they have a whole they literally have a whole company based dopamine company based on dopamine release apps to get release of on these apps to get people addicted. yeah, yeah. >> this idea that >> that's where this idea that children are developing in a way that never did million that we never did million percent, they're changing. >> they're literally there's a there's called gabor mate, there's a guy called gabor mate, he's canadian psychologist and he's a canadian psychologist and developmental , and developmental psychologist, and he talks about how our literal neural biological wiring is being affected by the use of social media. and it's like we, we, we as people, i'm talking about parents. but actually, you know, i'm probably just as addicted to my phone as well, you know, because using it you know, because i'm using it so you can't you almost so much and you can't you almost can't it. yeah. there's can't help it. yeah. but there's a difference, there, a difference, isn't there, between what we do as between sort of what we do as adults to fully formed. >> yeah , fully million percent >> yeah, fully million percent children. so in that sense, if you're saying, well help your children navigate it, isn't it better well, them better to say, well, let them cope with it as we had to cope with it? cope with it as we had to cope witiyeah , i think they're grown. >> yeah, i think they're grown. >> yeah, i think they're grown. >> well, there there were >> well, there was, there were i'm though , because i i'm not sure though, because i just i think adolescence just i do think adolescence is a highly sociable time. so i mean
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kids are going to of course use this technology because they're going drawn it because going to be drawn to it because it them what they it helps them do what they naturally do , which naturally want to do, which is to peer groups. to form their peer groups. and there writer there was a writer in the spectator, zoe strimpel, this week, was saying how when week, who was saying how when she was a teenager, she begged her parents own phone her parents for her own phone line so could basically just line so she could basically just spend hours and hours and hours and and hours talking and hours and hours talking to her said didn't her friends. she said she didn't do she didn't read. >> i mean, she got it. her parents were stupid enough to i know than sense, i know, know money than sense, i know, but the thing is, is i think teenagers have always been like this. >> i don't think this is anything new. i don't think this is unprecedented . and i worry is unprecedented. and i worry that we are just sort of having a panic about it. and a bit of a panic about it. and whereas in the past, think, whereas in the past, i think, parents would have just sort of been like, okay, let's help them, let's let them figure it out. is a sort of out. this is a sort of experimental phase. think now experimental phase. i think now parents want to manage everything. that. everything. we know that. we know research by know that from research by jonathan haidt in the us who says that, you know, university students are becoming are actually done of studies
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actually done a lot of studies into it by the age of 18. when they get to university, they're actually lot mature and actually a lot less mature and have less life experience have a lot less life experience than, did 20 or 30 than, say, children did 20 or 30 years before them, yeah. there's not leaving their bedrooms. yes. well, they're in their bedrooms. that's true. but i think it's also parents as well are a lot less trusting of children. there is this whole phenomenon of helicopter . helicopter parenting. >> yeah, i suppose i mean, winston, i think for me it's the fact that it can affect it will it affects everything, doesn't it? phone addiction it? mobile phone addiction with children. you look at children. i mean, you look at children, obesity children. i mean, you look at children, a obesity children. i mean, you look at children, a whole obesity children. i mean, you look at children, a whole lot besity children. i mean, you look at children, a whole lot through the numbers a whole lot through the roof. it's because they're moving. >> they get out, need to >> they need to get out, need to get 100. they need to get get image 100. they need to get out nature, into playing, out into nature, into playing, being to face interaction being face to face interaction with their peers, children, exploring the world, you know, coming , you exploring the world, you know, coming, you know, failing, falling off a tree and hurting themselves scratching themselves and scratching something and really actually, you know, getting the you know, getting out into the world massively world like it's massively important. and it said as us as as as adults , it's kind as parents, as adults, it's kind of like going, okay, we can see what challenges are and what the challenges are and actually, know what? if we
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actually, you know what? if we need our children need to stop our children from using for period of time, using this for a period of time, like, going to ban my like, i'm not going to ban my son but, know, son forever, but, you know, for the next, know, two the next, you know, month, two months, going say, right, months, i'm going to say, right, we're to control this we're just going to control this for bit. understands. for a bit. so he understands. and him, look, and i've said to him, look, i love you. this is about helping you. not punishing you. this is not about punishing you. you don't understand the damage as damage it's doing to you. so as parents, to be parents, we've got to be responsible that use responsible to manage that use of social media and of time on social media and phones. yeah, it's to phones. well yeah, it's hard to argue with that. >> i'm sure some you will >> but i'm sure some of you will anyway. candice winston, thank you. good see you you. it's been to good see you this morning. we'll see you in the next here's the weather. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers , sponsors of boxt boilers, sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> good morning. welcome to your latest gb news weather update. this weekend will be dry for many of us. the best of the sunshine will be in the west, particularly through today and across eastern areas. actually, particularly through today and across igoingi areas. actually, particularly through today and across going to reas. actually, particularly through today and across going to rearquiterally, particularly through today and across going to rearquiteralcool there's going to be quite a cool feeling with this north feeling breeze with this north easterly off the easterly wind coming off the nonh easterly wind coming off the north will bring some north sea. that will bring some cloud to eastern areas through
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this though, this morning. elsewhere though, it and bright. it should stay dry and bright. however, as we head towards lunchtime, think more the lunchtime, i think more in the way cloud bubble way of cloud will bubble up across parts across western areas. parts of wales midlands as well, wales into the midlands as well, but it should stay dry through much of the day and it will feel fairly in sunshine. fairly pleasant in the sunshine. later evening later on this evening we'll start parts of scotland, start to see parts of scotland, see some rain arrive this see some rain arrive as this area pushes from the area of rain pushes in from the north. bring thicker north. that will bring thicker cloud areas of scotland north. that will bring thicker clowell areas of scotland north. that will bring thicker clowell . areas of scotland north. that will bring thicker clowell . and areas of scotland north. that will bring thicker clowell . and thatas of scotland north. that will bring thicker clowell . and that area scotland north. that will bring thicker clowell . and that area of otland north. that will bring thicker clowell . and that area of cloud as well. and that area of cloud is going sink southwards is going to sink southwards through covering through this evening, covering many northern england, many areas of northern england, and sit across and that will likely sit across parts of the midlands, possibly into by sunday into the southeast. by sunday morning. this drizzly rain will likely affect northern areas of england, southern scotland as well, through sunday morning as well. it's going to be well. but it's going to be fairly light. where fairly light. but where the skies clear, to skies stay clear, it's going to be another night. be another chilly night. tonight we frost we could see a touch of frost developing once again. as i said, there is a bit of uncertainty in how widespread this cloud will it could this cloud will be. it could cover areas, cover more southeastern areas, but as the day progresses, i think there'll be better chance of spells developing, of brighter spells developing, particularly across south particularly across the south and , where it's
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and the northwest, where it's actually going to be the warmest through the rest of weekend. through the rest of the weekend. however for this central slither, likely slither, it will likely stay fairly a little bit fairly dull and a little bit cooler for much of the day, with a chance drizzly rain . a chance of some drizzly rain. have bye bye. have a great day! bye bye. >> outlook with boxt >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on
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not jewish. this is a pro—palestinian march. i'm not accusing you of anything, but i'm worried about the reaction to your presence. >> the metropolitan police issued apology after officers issued an apology after officers threatened to arrest a jewish man wearing a kippah at a pro—palestine protest. katherine forster has the latest. >> yes, the met police have
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admitted that they did get this wrong . but a comment made by the wrong. but a comment made by the government's counter extremism tsar last month that central london was becoming a no go area for jews seems perhaps to be coming true. i'll bring you more shortly . shortly. >> gb news can confirm the man who set himself on fire outside the trump hush money trial has now died in hospital . now died in hospital. >> world leaders call for calm in the middle east after tensions rose following the israeli strike on iran yesterday i >> -- >> why is emma >> why is the british fry up toast ? well, according to new toast? well, according to new research, generation z turn their backs on the breakfast classic, deeming it to too be fatty. >> on the eve of the london marathon, we're going to be talking to the family of christopher hope , who are taking christopher hope, who are taking part in this year's event for a very special reason. >> good morning. it's a bright but chilly start for many of us across the uk. how will the rest of weekend pan out? where
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of the weekend pan out? where you can all the details you can find all the details with a little later on. with me a little later on. >> morning to you. >> morning to you. >> i'm stephen dixon and i'm ellie and this is ellie costello and this is breakfast . gb news. breakfast on. gb news. just had this message in from matthew on gbnews.com/yoursay we've been talking about shoplifting this morning. he says, good morning . i was says, good morning. i was recently in a well—known high street bakery chain. in walked a lad with a hoodie. >> i wonder which one that was. >> i wonder which one that was. >> oh, wow . yeah. >> oh, wow. yeah. >> oh, wow. yeah. >> yes, yes. in walks allowed with a hoodie he helped with a hoodie on. he helped himself to two drinks and some sandwiches and then walked straight out of the shop. i reported this to a member of staff. told that this staff. he told me that this person regular shoplifter. person was a regular shoplifter. head had instructed staff head office had instructed staff that shoplifters are left that shoplifters are to be left alone . alone. >> just let them do what they like. it's very odd . it's very. like. it's very odd. it's very. and i know we've been talking about it this morning, a thousand shoplifting events happen every day . apparently,
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happen every day. apparently, according to the latest figures and the people we've talked to, including the labour party this morning, say, well, yes, more needs to be done. it's, you know, organised crime and drug addicts and all this sort of thing. and i'm sure that is a big part of it. but you do see a lot of people like in this case, they're not part of organised crime . they're not necessarily crime. they're not necessarily got an addiction. they're just getting to the point of thinking, well, this is just what you can do. i saw someone in sainsbury's doing with a load of booze. did you walking out with load it and he got with a load of it and he got collared. and they took it all off him. oh that's good, but of course then he just walked out the shop. >> oh, nothing. >> oh, nothing. >> nothing. so nothing actually happens even happens with the police even called? know , and he called? i don't know, and he kicked up a fuss. did he? get off get off me! well no. off me? get off me! well no. you're walking out with the audacity. bottles of vodka audacity. five bottles of vodka and. so it's . and. oh crate of lager, so it's. i think it's just kids now a lot. is it? a lot of it. kids just thinking they can do what
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they like. >> they just know they can get away with it. perhaps there'll be consequences. be no consequences. >> very worrying. >> it's very worrying. >> it's very worrying. >> but is brazen, isn't it? >> but that is brazen, isn't it? just to walk in daylight. just to walk in broad daylight. help yourself lunch. walk help yourself to lunch. walk out? yeah. >> yeah, very, very odd. >> yeah, very, very odd. >> says police are >> yeah. adrian says police are deaung >> yeah. adrian says police are dealing with mental dealing mostly with mental health now. they can't attend lesser well, we've been lesser crimes, well, we've been talking about phone addiction this what it means this morning and what it means for . and we've had a for children. and we've had a message in can i find it now from jeremy and 15, who said, sadly, my goddaughter is 11 and cannot tell the time on a traditional wristwatch. >> now, this should have been that should have been taught at school. i hate to say really, even before school it should have been taught at home. and this is where we blame a lot of it on schools, and a lot of it is down to parenting. i was taught, i remember, i remember it well, a big plastic clock with numbers . with numbers. >> yes, i remember that as well. >> yes, i remember that as well. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> before i learnt, i learnt how to tell the time before i went to tell the time before i went to school. >> yeah. and when the big hand points the little hand
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points up and the little hand points up and the little hand points seven, you have points to number seven, you have to to bed. that's what remember. >> and it still applies. now >> and it still applies. now >> it actually does still apply now on this shift. >> exactly. >> exactly. >> yeah. i think >> yeah. it's but i think parents are getting i know parents are getting i know parents busier now and parents are busier now and normally parents are normally both parents are working now all rest of working now and all the rest of it. you've got to do a lot it. but you've got to do a lot of this stuff at home. you can't expect everything to be taught at school. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> as winston was saying, >> and as winston was saying, i mean, a lot of it just comes down to parental responsibility, doesn't i mean, was doesn't it? i mean, he was saying his son's saying he's seeing his son's grades therefore the grades slip and therefore the phone is his phone is gone, as is his computer. yeah, perhaps that's the it needs to be done. the way it needs to be done. >> you've got to be >> quite right. you've got to be firm. firm fair, i think. firm. firm to be fair, i think. yeah, all that one. but then again, i haven't got children to deal with. >> no, neither do i. so maybe it's to say that. it's easy for us to say that. >> controlling the dog, >> enough controlling the dog, frankly, rex, frankly, mr rex, >> oh, lots of people messaging about christopher our about christopher hope, our political editor, the political editor, doing the marathon with his marathon along with two of his children. we're to be to children. we're going to be to talking two children a talking those two children a little bit this morning little bit later on this morning . they're doing for a very . they're doing it for a very good we'll tell you more
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later. >> yeah. they're a lovely family as well, so don't miss that. and do your views coming in on do keep your views coming in on any the stories that we're any of the stories that we're talking about today. gbnews.com/yoursay >> the metropolitan police >> now, the metropolitan police has causing >> now, the metropolitan police has offence causing >> now, the metropolitan police has offence with ausing >> now, the metropolitan police has offence with an;ing >> now, the metropolitan police has offence with an apology further offence with an apology about use of the about an officer's use of the terms openly jewish to an anti—semitism campaign who was near a pro—palestinian march. this is what happened . this is what happened. >> you are quite openly jewish. this is a pro—palestinian march. i'm not accusing you of anything, but i'm worried about the reaction to your presence. >> well, the chief executive of campaign against anti—semitism was wearing a kippah, skullcap when he was stopped from crossing a road near the demonstration in london last saturday. >> well, the shadow policing minister, alex norris , spoke to minister, alex norris, spoke to us a little earlier. >> there can be no place for hate in this. and if there is racism in this case, anti—semitism, there cannot be that sort of thing. so you know what's happened is wrong. and we're glad that the police have accepted that. we're glad that the police have acc well, that. we're glad that the police have acc well, that political >> well, our political correspondent, katherine forster is here now. i mean, this
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certainly whichever way you look at it, this what happened cannot be right. there's got to be very big questions about how policing of these events is managed. >> yes, because these protests have been going on for, well, six months, ever since october. the seventh. and, you know, the protesters , the pro—palestinian protesters, the pro—palestinian protesters, the pro—palestinian protesters have the right to march in their tens or sometimes hundreds of thousands freely through central london. and so also jewish people must have the right to go about their daily business as normal . but it does business as normal. but it does feel very much like a comment made by robin simcox, who is the government's, counter extremism tsan government's, counter extremism tsar. last month he said that , tsar. last month he said that, areas of central london on the days of the protests were increasingly becoming no go areas for jews. increasingly becoming no go areas forjews. now increasingly becoming no go areas for jews. now that cannot be right. and as as you say this, this gentleman, gideon falter, the chief executive of the campaign against anti—semitism, was wearing his skullcap because he'd just come
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from a synagogue and he's told that his presence is provocative and antagonising. and as we just heard there, the police officer said, well, i'm not accusing you of anything. why would you even think of accusing him of anything? he's just trying to go about his business. so it is difficult for the police. they're trying to tread a difficult line, but it does seem that too often , they, they take that too often, they, they take issue with with the wrong people. and what we had yesterday was this sort of non—apology from the assistant commissioner, matt twist, who said that, the presence could be provocative. he they then had to apologise for that because you cannot have it both ways. if people can march against the war in gaza, jewish people can walk around london on the same day. you've got to have both or you have neither. you know, we live
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in a free country, supposedly. so i do think this is quite shocking. now the government are up in arms. they've written to, sadiq khan. they've written to the metropolitan police this is james cleverly, the home secretary. people like suella braverman , who call these braverman, who call these marches hate marches of course, most people on the marches would say they're just wanting peace in gaza, she is also saying that, you know, the balance is completely wrong here. >> so been this second >> so there's been this second statement now from the metropolitan police apologising for that first statement, hasn't there? yes. >> so a mess. >> so a mess. >> so i mean, the first statement was a nightmare. >> a victim blaming wasn't it really. >> exactly. victim blaming . so >> exactly. victim blaming. so you know, if you can march , as you know, if you can march, as people do saturday after saturday after saturday, it is not okay to then say to jewish people, actually, you shouldn't be here. why should they not be here? they was a provocation to be there. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> every right to be there. so i
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think it is difficult for the police, but it does seem to be, that there are a number of these incidents and of course, they get picked up on social media and then we all hear about them where they absolutely do get, the balance wrong. >> okay. >> okay. >> catherine bannau, thanks very much indeed . now, the man who much indeed. now, the man who set himself on fire outside a courthouse in new york, where donald trump's hush money trial is underway, has died in hospital. >> us gb news has confirmed this with new york police department . with new york police department. the police identified the man as maxwell azarello from florida, who was in his 30s. >> let's talk to commentator on us and international politics, professor scott lucas. >> good morning to you, scott, i mean, this is a tragic case that someone who seemed to be disturbed has has self—immolated and died in this way. disturbed has has self—immolated and died in this way . and it and died in this way. and it raises a question, though, doesn't it, about just how
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intense the situation the atmosphere is becoming in the united states . united states. >> that it has been the case before, that people have committed , self—immolation over committed, self—immolation over various issues , you could think various issues, you could think about it happening during the vietnam war, for example . well, vietnam war, for example. well, in this case, mr azzarello , in this case, mr azzarello, appeared to be a conspiracy theorist, he had pamphlets about ponzi schemes, about the mob being in control of, new york city's educational institutions . city's educational institutions. but what makes it different? i think in the 21st century is simply the speed and the scope of social media and the way that that people will spread ideas or spread conspiracy theories so quickly, and how dialogue can very quickly be replaced by division and by shouting, i have to emphasise for viewers here that although mr azzarello set himself on fire outside the
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courthouse where the first of donald trump's criminal trials are proceeding it, it has no connection with the criminal trial itself. he just simply chose a spot where he could get a lot of attention. but on your broader point, yes, american politics has become a lot more polarised. that's been the case since the late 20th century, even before social media developed. we can discuss why, and in large part donald trump, his own style, his own way of, of using social media has sort of using social media has sort of accentuated that polarised asian, even before we talk about the legal and political significance of the trials that are starting this year , are starting this year, professor, i'm very, very sad to hear that this individual has lost his life, but so traumatic as well. for those bystanders , as well. for those bystanders, those witnesses that saw this, this horror play out in front of the courthouse. and we're also heanng the courthouse. and we're also hearing that police officers suffered injuries as well . suffered injuries as well. >> yeah, there were some injuries, from people from smoke inhalation that were trying to,
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you know, treat this man on the scene, trying to save his life. there it it is the case that when you get a charged atmosphere , you have the atmosphere, you have the question of security. and i have to emphasise that despite the warnings or the concerns that we might have a lot of security incidents around donald trump's trials , that has not occurred. trials, that has not occurred. it just so happens in this case that one individual chose this as the setting for what happens. i think there's a discussion here. you've been having it on other fronts about mental health, about how people in this era where everything comes out of so fast and so loud , can of so fast and so loud, can protect mental health. i think it's a case where i'm hoping that in my native country, in the years to come, we get back to discussing the issues in a calmer way, in a way where we have a lot more respect and tolerance rather than in all caps tweets that says i'm right, you're wrong, and that's the way it has to be. >> yeah, i think that's a valid point, to be honest. scott.
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luke, it's good to see you. thank you very much indeed i do. there's a there's a lot to be said for and it's, it is the it's not all about social media, but it's that social media idea the that you know, you see something and you believe it. and so there is a lack of sometimes i think people hear what they want to hear sometimes from people as well. actually, on that point, you know, that discussion we were having at the top about about children and all the of it, you see, fiery the rest of it, you see, fiery red dragon. good morning to you. message in on gbnews.com/yoursay saying, stephen, stop excusing parents. schools are not there to parent. they they are there to parent. they they are there to teach which is which is a which is the exact opposite of what i said. i agree with you entirely. yeah, i think it's all about parents. so it's, it's there's an element of sometimes that you mishear something or you hear what you want to hear and, and then off you go.
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>> and we are in the era, aren't we, of misinformation , we, of misinformation, disinformation. anybody can put information out there that may not necessarily be correct. >> no. and it's what you believe. and it's interesting that we're talking about labour as well. this morning you know, using tiktok and get to a using tiktok to try and get to a younger the younger voters, which is a perfectly valid thing to do. i don't have an issue with that at all. you've got to you've got to go where where your people are consuming information. it's the idea that at so many young people are getting news from tiktok . i getting news from tiktok. i mean, as i say, you can put anything on that . i mean, it's anything on that. i mean, it's the same with facebook and all the same with facebook and all the rest of it. i have people that i know who message me constantly, thinking i know everything about the news, saying, oh, you this? saying, oh, have you seen this? have seen this is happening? have you seen this is happening? and this is and it's not, it's nonsense . some of it is outright nonsense. some of it is outright lies, but they've seen it on know it's on facebook. it's on facebook. it must be true because there's no verification, is there? >> anyone e anyone can is there? >> anyone can put >> i mean, anyone can put anything there that's the anything out there that's the
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problem . other is you problem. the other issue is you create own echo chamber, create your own echo chamber, don't the don't you? you never see the other the story, you other side of the story, you rarely see the whole story. you just a certain specific view just see a certain specific view of events. that's the issue with social media, which is not healthy. >> and it's what we try to do on here is, is providing a platform for all views , some of which for all views, some of which obviously you don't get on other platforms. i mean , it's why we platforms. i mean, it's why we exist. it's not saying you should agree with those views . should agree with those views. it's about saying this is the whole picture. now you make up your own mind. that's the that's the point of it. it's not pushing an agenda. it'sjust pushing an agenda. it's just giving you the information to deal with. >> yeah, that's what we're trying to do. so do keep your messages in morning. messages coming in this morning. gbnews.com/yoursay oh, just so quickly on something slightly lighter , slightly lighter, but lighter, slightly lighter, but pauune lighter, slightly lighter, but pauline brown on smartphone says, i'm wondering if winston, who's doing our papers this morning, could come round and ban my 52 year old husband from his phone. he's constantly on it, either playing football
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manager or stick cricket or reading fake news. i rarely get a response from him apart from a grunt, and it's driving me crazy. on grunt, and it's driving me crazy. oh yeah , you've got to crazy. oh yeah, you've got to ban him, take it off him . ban him, take it off him. >> so there are lots of adults who are very addicted to their phones. it's not just the kids, but at least we are fully formed. at least all of our brain has fused together. >> well, just about just about . >> well, just about just about. >> well, just about just about. >> i'm not sure. >> in my case, there's no old mine. there's a way to go yet. >> well, yes, but i mean, it is a problem, isn't it? and it meant to be addictive as as winston was explaining. it's dopamine hits, isn't it? yeah. you were a youtube scroll thing. >> youtube hole. call them at home. >> yes, but that's the only thing that gets you. yeah, because i don't really look at the social media now. i'll have a quick glance through of a very quick glance through and see if anyone sent the sort of direct message or something, but that is probably a healthy approach. >> i'd it takes about five >> i'd say it takes about five minutes to go through social minutes to go through my social media, and that is it. and media, and then that is it. and i put it down.
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>> probably a very >> yeah, it's probably a very good do it. so yeah, good way to do it. so yeah, there you go. >> anyway, let's get back to the news morning because world news this morning because world leaders calling calm and leaders are calling for calm and de—escalation the middle de—escalation in the middle east. launched east. after israel launched airstrikes iran yesterday. >> yes. >> yes. >> according reports, three >> according to reports, three drones down with drones were shot down with explosions an airbase drones were shot down with explctheis an airbase drones were shot down with explcthe city an airbase drones were shot down with explcthe city of an airbase drones were shot down with explcthe city of ispahan.irbase near the city of ispahan. >> well, the strike, thought to be weekend's be in response to last weekend's attack a barrage attack when iran fired a barrage of drones and missiles directly at israel. >> well , at israel. >> well, earlier we spoke to retired british army officer and defence analyst colonel simon diggins. >> the israelis very give way, very little information about what they've done. so for example, the attack that preceded the iranian barrage, the attack onto the iranian consulate in damascus, israel didn't claim the attack, nor did they comment on it. and they very rarely comment on attacks they've carried out into syria or into into iraq. now, iran, when it attacked israel, was the opposite. it made a huge noise about it because it wanted to make a point about what it was
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trying to do. but no, we don't know very much about the actual details because the israelis aren't giving it away. and it's been interests of the been in the interests of the iranians to play the whole thing down. they talked about several quadcopters, assaults launched from inside iran, from disaffected groups, pro—israeli, disaffected groups, pro—israeli, disaffected groups. but they've tried to play it down. and the israelis aren't giving very much away . this all helps, though, in away. this all helps, though, in terms of the de—escalation , terms of the de—escalation, because clearly this is an incident where if the rhetoric increased, then the danger of escalation grows . escalation grows. >> i mean, the response from both countries is really interesting , isn't it, because interesting, isn't it, because it does allow them to come back down that escalation ladder, so to speak . and would you, would to speak. and would you, would you say that iran and israel feel more comfortable in the shadow wars that they have been partaking in than this state on state action that we've seen in the last week or so? >> eddie, i think it's absolutely the point. up until now, there have been operating
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this kind of grey zone of assassinations, use of proxies, lots of propaganda and that sort of area. and they've so far avoided state on state conflict. israel, we presume it's israel broke that taboo when it attacked the consulate. and while the consulate was being misused , it's been used as misused, it's been used as a base for, for iranian irgc generals and the like. nonetheless, the convention and is a convention is that embassies are sovereign territory . and so by attacking territory. and so by attacking that consulate effectively, israel had broken the taboo about attacking, iranian state territory. and so iran then felt the need to respond in the way in which it which it did. and israel has gone back, but so they broke that taboo. but now, as you say, they're kind of they're re—establishing what they're re—establishing what they position of kind of they call a position of kind of mutual deterrence, which is that we stay away from each we will stay away from each other's state territory, but below the line or beneath the line , grey warfare, hybrid line, grey warfare, hybrid warfare, whatever tone you choose to use will continue.
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>> how much, pressure do you think there's been on, i mean, particularly israel, because obviously our lines of communication with iran are very difficult , but from from the difficult, but from from the west, i mean, from the visit from lord cameron. we've obviously had lots being said from the white house. will that have made an impact? >> no, i think enormous impact. it's one of the reading a israeli commentator this morning, he said, he said that netanyahu was uncharacteristically quiet. and i think people always right i think people have always right from the very beginning of this conflict, there has been this concern that, you know, that it would spread into something much more regional, much more impactful across across the middle east and therefore across the rest of the rest of the world. >> all right. we'll keep you up to date with that of course. oh, now look at that . if you're now look at that. if you're watching on television, look how that line across the top of our headis that line across the top of our head is at a wonk. oh, yeah. now you know why that is? it's because sebastian's just been here playing with the cameras, and we were pulled apart.
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>> were pulled apart. >> we were pulled apart. >> we were pulled apart. >> told sitting >> we're told we were sitting too close together. >> my mom always does say that she. are you sat on steven's she. why are you sat on steven's lap? no, i know, sorry. why not? it's because literally end up it's because we literally end up like this. >> we wi- >> i don't, we just get cosy. it's it's nice. it's fine. it's nice. >> i it like that. >> i like it like that. >> i like it like that. >> it's nice. but as i say, it's nice to have people who get on. >> we. yeah. well we've got telling off. i'm told to sit apart. but look, we're rebelling already. >> we're rebelling and you've already. >> ae're rebelling and you've already. >> ae're retcamera.nd you've already. >> ae're retcamera. we'llj've already. >> ae're retcamera. we'll get it got a wonky camera. we'll get it all out for you all straightened out for you dunng all straightened out for you during weather annie. during the weather with annie. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers , sponsors of boxt boilers, sponsors of weather on . gb news. good weather on. gb news. good morning. welcome to your latest gb news weather update. this weekend will be dry for many of us.the weekend will be dry for many of us. the best of the sunshine will be in the west, particularly through today and across eastern areas. actually, there's going to be quite a cool feeling breeze with this northeast off the northeast wind coming off the nonh northeast wind coming off the north will some north sea. that will bring some cloud to eastern areas through this elsewhere, though, this morning. elsewhere, though, it and bright .
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it should stay dry and bright. however, as we head towards lunchtime, think in the lunchtime, i think more in the way cloud will bubble up way of cloud will bubble up across areas. parts of across western areas. parts of wales midlands well, across western areas. parts of walit midlands well, across western areas. parts of walit should midlands well, across western areas. parts of walit should staydlands well, across western areas. parts of walit should stay dry|ds well, across western areas. parts of walit should stay dry throughzll, but it should stay dry through much day and it will feel much of the day and it will feel fairly pleasant in the sunshine. later this evening we'll later on this evening we'll start see parts of scotland start to see parts of scotland see arrive as this see some rain arrive as this area of rain pushes in from the north. that will bring thicker cloud scotland cloud to many areas of scotland as that area of cloud as well. and that area of cloud is going sink southwards is going to sink southwards through evening, covering through this evening, covering many northern england, many areas of northern england, and likely sit across and that will likely sit across parts midlands, possibly parts of the midlands, possibly into sunday into the southeast by sunday morning. this drizzly rain will likely affect northern areas of england, southern scotland as well, sunday morning. as well, through sunday morning. as well. going to be well. but it's going to be fairly light. but where the skies clear, it's going to skies stay clear, it's going to be chilly night. tonight be another chilly night. tonight we see a of frost we could see a touch of frost developing as developing once again. as i said, is a of said, there is a bit of uncertainty in how widespread this cloud be. it could this cloud will be. it could cover more southeastern areas, but progresses, but as the day progresses, i think there'll be better chance of brighter spells developing, particularly across the south and the northwest, where it's actually going to be the warmest through the rest of the weekend.
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>> you love a fry? >> you love a fry? >> i do, i'm going home to a fry up after this. i'm a big advocate of a fry up. as are you. >> yeah, like a fry up? yeah. one that often? >> once a week. >> once a week. >> no, not quite. once a week, maybe once a fortnight. >> well, it's been the breakfast of choice for many for years. fry ups, though, may be falling out fashion. out of fashion. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> me. a survey has found >> dear me. a survey has found 25% of to 34 year olds rarely 25% of 18 to 34 year olds rarely have a fry up, whilst1 25% of 18 to 34 year olds rarely have a fry up, whilst 1 in 10 have a fry up, whilst 1 in 10 have never had one. >> what? oh, dear. well is the engush >> what? oh, dear. well is the english fry up toast? >> that's the question. we're asking this morning. well, joining us now is celebrity chef theo michaels, who loves a fry up, and nutritionist rhiannon lambert , who thinks the english lambert, who thinks the english breakfast is outdated. well very good morning to you both. rihanna. we'll start with you. why is it outdated ? why is it outdated? >> well, i can see both sides of the coin. first of all, there will still be people out there that love the fry up, which is fine. but i also think there's another generation coming through of people that perhaps
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want traditional on want a less traditional take on it. still love their it. so they still love their fried they still perhaps fried eggs. they still perhaps love the traditional baked beans on nice toast, on the plate. some nice toast, or grandparents actually used or my grandparents actually used to fried bread, you know, to have fried bread, you know, like fried in the morning like fried toast in the morning as but nowadays people are as well. but nowadays people are more their halloumi the more about their halloumi in the morning avocado . morning or their avocado. >> on, rhiannon, come >> oh come on, rhiannon, come on. you'll be, you'll be, you'll be saying avocado on toast next. i mean, it's nonsense. >> well, i think avocado is a bit expensive for most people, to be honest at the moment. and it is imported, but i do think there's different ways of mixing up your breakfast in the morning. with my kids. morning. i know with my kids. >> come on, i can see, i >> theo, come on, i can see, i can see you're very frustrated by this. >> i am it's sacrilegious. >> i am it's sacrilegious. >> i am it's sacrilegious. >> i think the great >> i mean, i think the great british up, right? this is british fry up, right? this is woven. is a thread of our woven. this is a thread of our culture. it's something we've grown with. and i love grown up with. and i love nothing more a greasy spoon nothing more than a greasy spoon fry up. and i want eggs, bacon, beans, bubbles , squeak. black beans, bubbles, squeak. black pudding. the whole works. i don't want don't, i don't don't want it, i don't, i don't want fat free. i don't want skimmed milk. i don't want avocado. i full works fry
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avocado. i want a full works fry up.and avocado. i want a full works fry up. and i'm devastated . that was up. and i'm devastated. that was it. 10% of that age group have never had a fry up, i never have. >> they don't know what they're missing. >> they don't. my heart bleeds for them. i implore you, go out today to your local cafe, order the biggest fry up and it'll change your life. >> i mean, the point is, rihanna. i mean, wouldn't be rihanna. i mean, it wouldn't be good for us if you were doing it seven days a week. but if you do it every now and then. there's nothing wrong with that, is there? >> no. exactly it's totally fine. you know, i've got people that love a fry up. my husband loves fry you know, loves a fry up. you know, you've got embrace you like. got to embrace what you like. there's that if you there's research that if you don't yourself enjoy don't allow yourself enjoy things, more likely things, you're more likely to overeat them so it's overeat on them anyway. so it's all about moderation, isn't it? and that's such a boring and i know that's such a boring word to but i'm not anti word to people, but i'm not anti fry up and i'm not pro up. fry up and i'm not pro fry up. i'm whatever want to i'm just whatever you want to do. your life, but make do. enjoy your life, but make sure you've got a good balance of items that are great. of the items that are great. >> so rihanna, sorry to interrupt. can just clarify interrupt. can i just clarify that saying that you're so you're saying do not up every single not eat a fry up every single morning? yeah.
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>> probably not. >> no, absolutely. probably not. the breakfast to start the best breakfast to start the day for heart health. but day for your heart health. but to be honest, your health is your next thing you know. to be honest, your health is youyou're thing you know. to be honest, your health is youyou're thing yto know. to be honest, your health is youyou're thing yto be ow. to be honest, your health is youyou're thing yto be saying, >> you're going to be saying, don't include the bloody don't don't include the bloody mary actually, that's a good >> well, actually, that's a good source of iron some people source of iron for some people as a little bit i mean, as well. a little bit i mean, with the alcohol and probably not the best idea single not the best idea every single morning. it morning. but, you know, it really depends you're really depends what you're looking your dish as well looking at in your dish as well every morning. and you've got to do look my do what's right for you. look my job nutritionist. so i'm do what's right for you. look my job to nutritionist. so i'm do what's right for you. look my job to sit ritionist. so i'm do what's right for you. look my job to sit here ist. so i'm do what's right for you. look my job to sit here and so i'm do what's right for you. look my job to sit here and say,n do what's right for you. look my job to sit here and say, look, going to sit here and say, look, there are some items on a fry up which do contain nutritional benefits. are others that which do contain nutritional benfull.. are others that which do contain nutritional benfull of are others that which do contain nutritional benfull of saturated thers that which do contain nutritional benfull of saturated fatrs that which do contain nutritional benfull of saturated fat and at are full of saturated fat and not great long time health. not great for long time health. but once a week, totally fine. >> yeah. i mean, you're chef, >> yeah. i mean, you're a chef, aren't are you of the school of >> so are you of the school of thought that you can make a traditional fry up, you can do it a healthier way? is that it in a healthier way? is that something that you'd support, or do you should go for do you think you should go for your traditional fry up everything lots of everything in one pan, lots of oil, lard, lard, lard. >> right, so you know, i'm >> all right, so you know, i'm a bit of both, if i'm honest. i guess i'm sort of by by breakfast, i think, well, i guess where it is, is for me,
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there's a, there is a general tradition of a greasy spoon fry up and we and i remember going to our local there's a to our local there's like a trucker's a grease, trucker's cafe with a grease, a proper greasy spoon, but the proper greasy spoon, but at the same there is something proper greasy spoon, but at the sam
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you meant black pudding. i got them up some bizarre them mixed up some bizarre reason. alcohol, black pudding. do a of do you still make a lot of those? because i'm interested. i feel like that's one key component the that component of the fry up that perhaps is dying out. the black pudding, is the iron rich part. >> you know, i think actually the black pudding is the black pudding bit is slightly and i think slightly dying out, and i think that's a real shame that's that's a real shame because actually that black pudding, they're pudding, white pudding, they're real products real traditional, products of, of the but it's the same of the uk, but it's the same here struggling with this conversation. but it's the same with like bubble and squeak as well. you know, a lot of stuff come lot food is created come a lot of food is created for a reason. there's a reason it exists, you know, and bubbles squeak was a way to use up cheap leftovers, mashed potato, leftovers, use up mashed potato, use a bit of cabbage , you use up a bit of cabbage, you know, and black pudding was a great way to, you know, if you butchered beef. butchered a beef. >> right, not yet. >> all right, well, not yet. >> all right, well, not yet. >> okay. well i'm glad to say we're out of time now. now we've come to butchering. we're out of time now. now we've conyeah,:)utchering. we're out of time now. now we've conyeah, the hering. we're out of time now. now we've conyeah, the vegetarians struggling. >> i've got limits , theo >> i've got my limits, theo michaels, rhiannon lambert. really you this really good to see you this morning . i have to say, there is morning. i have to say, there is a place near me called the super
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sausage is there, which sausage cafe. is there, which sells super sausages , as you can sells super sausages, as you can imagine, is like a it's like a truckers cafe . it's like a truck stop. >> do you find yourself at the super sausage cafe very often. >> i may be popping in later, giving you the appetite. >> have we? yeah. >> have we? yeah. >> oh, dear. well, theo. black pudding. it's right? pudding. it's blood. right? yeah, right. pig blood. >> that's right. pig blood. yeah, yeah. >> it wouldn't be for me and >> no, it wouldn't be for me and i like that we're out of i like, i like that we're out of time. oh sorry. yeah >> you're being told off. >> you're being told off. >> yeah. sorry. for the second time last ten minutes. time in the last ten minutes. >> it's happening a now. our >> it's happening a lot now. our very christopher hope is very own christopher hope is running tomorrow's london very own christopher hope is running t(alongw's london very own christopher hope is running t(along with ondon very own christopher hope is running t(along with hison marathon along with his children. to talking children. we'll be to talking them just couple of them in just a couple of minutes.
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christopher hope, who not only is lovely, but also very athletic. is running the athletic. and he is running the london marathon along his london marathon along with his daughter sapphire son daughter sapphire and his son barnaby. yeah. >> raising money the >> they're raising money for the charity family charity scope after the family were a crash , in which were rocked by a crash, in which pollyanna, their sister , lost leg. >> oh, well, joining us now is christopher's daughter, sapphire, and his son, barnaby. so good to see you both. and it tomorrow is just going to be absolutely incredible. how are you both feeling, excited . you both feeling, excited. definitely. really nervous though, it's my first marathon, but barnaby , i did it in 2021. but barnaby, i did it in 2021. >> i was a lot more trained up then, but but it'll be good fun. it'll be good fun. the crowds are amazing. so we're looking forward to it. >> fun, barnaby. fun are you mad? >> we're confused. >> we're confused. >> yeah. i mean, if you've done it before, how hard work is it after. >> after you. it's hard work. but after you finish, you realise it was one of the best days of your life. so it's. it's definitely worth doing whether you're trained up or not. i think so, but just not like i
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was last time. >> sapphire, what's the training been like? have you all trained together? have you been training with your dad or how has it worked? >> well, i've been at university in bristol, so i'm barnaby, has been at home, dad's been at home, so they've kind of been running together, but i've been running together, but i've been running by myself. and then in the university holidays, when i've come back, been i've come back, i've been running dad, has running with dad, which has definitely made it easier. yeah he's a little personal he's like a little personal trainer as i cry trainer cheering me on as i cry my through 30 k he my way through 30 k and he speeds off and does another ten. yeah, he's definitely the fittest. that's like us. >> like army marshall >> that's like army marshall with training . he's he's with this training. he's he's off doing 30km weekend, off doing 30km every weekend, even not doing even when he's not doing a marathon. so yeah, he's good. he's good training. he's he's good at training. he's a lot than we lot more disciplined than we are. hopefully it are. hopefully, hopefully it comes age as well. comes with age as well. >> yeah i mean got a lot >> yeah i mean he's got a lot a lot, a lot of years behind him a lot, a lot of years behind him a lot of years. >> tell us about pollyanna and obviously what happened to her and why you now want to raise money for scope.
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>> yeah. so, pollyanna obviously lost her leg when she was two, and she's. since she's been a below, below the knee amputee on her right leg, and she's just faced quite a lot of stigmas, i'd say, in society, i personally have noticed how, disabled people are treated. they're often looked at differently , and i've seen the differently, and i've seen the way people look at pollyanna and, we found scope and we wanted to run the london marathon this year, and i just thought it was absolutely perfect, and they've been really, good. they fight really, really good. they fight for disability and for disability equality, and they campaign relentlessly to create a fairer society for disabled people. palsy is disabled people. so palsy is really excited that we're running scope as well, she's running for scope as well, she's really been trying to do a lot more like stuff on social media about, disability equality and stuff like that. so she's really excited to. >> will she be going >> oh, and will she be going along support tomorrow ? along to support you tomorrow? >> she's actually travelling >> no, she's actually travelling in right now. she's on in australia right now. she's on her gap. >> selfish really, isn't it? >> selfish really, isn't it? >> is extremely selfish.
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>> this is extremely selfish. >> this is extremely selfish. >> you're all doing such a wonderful thing . and she's not. wonderful thing. and she's not. >> she's not there to see it. >> she's not there to see it. >> she's not there to see it. >> she's just having a lovely time well, look the best for time and well, look the best for her. best luck to you in her. the best of luck to you in terms of fundraising. how are you getting on? >> good. we've smashed our >> good. we've we've smashed our £5,000 so we're who we £5,000 target. so we're who we smashed it yesterday actually. but obviously if anyone wants to donate more we'd be super donate any more we'd be super super great. >> we've the t shirts on. yeah >> oh yes. so how do people how do people support you. >> just through our >> so just through our justgiving it's i think justgiving link, it's i think it's just giving.com slash slash ihope it's just giving.com slash slash i hope or something. if you search it up you'll be able to find it, and yeah, it's just through there. >> and what's the plan for tomorrow. what's the plan tomorrow? are we. i'm sorry i keep cutting you off. what's the plan for tomorrow? we all. are we running together or are we all running together or are we all running together or are we start together? and we going to start together? and then dad's going go out ahead? >> well, optimistic. i i'd >> well, optimistic. i said i'd be faster, i think i'm be faster, so i think i'm starting a earlier wave. starting in a earlier wave. >> dad, dad and i are in the same wave, but he's already told me he'll the first six miles
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me he'll do the first six miles with me and then and then go. >> i. >> i. >> i'm too slow. i'm slow. >> i'm too slow. i'm too slow. >> to. i'm going to go >> i'm going to. i'm going to go off. i'm i did it in 2021. and i managed to go off in between waves. so i went off far too fast, completely on my own, waves. so i went off far too fast, cis1pletely on my own, waves. so i went off far too fast, cis a letely on my own, waves. so i went off far too fast, cis a bitely on my own, waves. so i went off far too fast, cis a bit surreal,y own, waves. so i went off far too fast, cis a bit surreal, butvn, waves. so i went off far too fast, cis a bit surreal, but i'll which is a bit surreal, but i'll try and stick with the crowds tomorrow. >> yeah, luck. i think >> yeah, good luck. i think you're crackers. yeah, but you're all crackers. yeah, but good luck you, sapphire and good luck to you, sapphire and barnaby. very much barnaby. thanks very much indeed, and lovely to meet you. >> so like their dad. >> they do, they do. i love it when that happens, don't you? >> yeah, yeah. just like. when that happens, don't you? >> �*look yeah. just like. when that happens, don't you? >> �*look like 1. just like. when that happens, don't you? >> �*look like christopher ke. when that happens, don't you? >> �*look like christopher hope, you look like christopher hope, baby christopher hope's baby. >> chris's chris is >> baby chris's and chris is full of talents, isn't he? >> i didn't know was any good >> i didn't know he was any good at running. i be honest. at running. i gotta be honest. >> very good. >> very good. >> very good at running. >> very good at running. >> yeah, some people have it all. would you? >> yeah, some people have it all.i would you? >> yeah, some people have it all.i find nould you? >> yeah, some people have it all.i find it uld you? >> yeah, some people have it all.i find it very'ou? >> yeah, some people have it all.i find it very impressive, >> i find it very impressive, actually. but won't catch us actually. but you won't catch us doing it, would you? >> not in million years. >> no, not in a million years. but luck to anyone who's but best of luck to anyone who's taking all that taking part and all that fantastic raised for fantastic money being raised for charity great charity as well. it's a great it's great thing. be good for it's a great thing. be good for scope as well. >> i'm losing my voice. on choked up. the emotion it all
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time for the papers this morning with winston davis and candice holdsworth. morning, you two. let's talk football. winston. should we in the times? >> yeah. we've got an all girls football team. has won the league going unbeaten . the league going unbeaten. the invincible queens park ladies down in bournemouth have won the under 12 league without being beaten all season. wow yeah. and they had to appeal. they wasn't allowed to enter the league. and then the manager appeal then the manager had to appeal it to say that they it in september to say that they were to play and were good enough to play and they played and they won and didn't beat. they played and they won and did so beat. they played and they won and did so that's at. they played and they won and did so that's something that's >> so that's something that's going to be made into a film. >> be. it should be. >> yeah. are you all for it, girls football. yeah. 100% like let them play i mean but in but girls football. yeah. 100% like let �*but1 play i mean but in but girls football. yeah. 100% like let “but against mean but in but girls football. yeah. 100% like let “but against them but in but girls football. yeah. 100% like let “but against the boyst in but girls football. yeah. 100% like let “but against the boys iin but girls football. yeah. 100% like let “but against the boys i think but but against the boys i think that we'll see what happens when
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they get under 15. under 16? >> like you couldn't do it. >> like you couldn't do it. >> then changes, but. well >> then it changes, but. well i mean that's what i i mean that's what i mean. i suppose be the best suppose they might be the best test, they. test, wouldn't they. >> i just wonder when >> yeah. i just wonder when puberty kicks boys just puberty kicks in and boys just start so much bigger and start getting so much bigger and stronger because do know stronger because we do know before boys and girls before puberty, boys and girls quite strength, before puberty, boys and girls quite and strength, before puberty, boys and girls quite and like, �*ength, before puberty, boys and girls quite and like, you h, before puberty, boys and girls quite and like, you see actually. and like, you see a lot of lot taller than lot of girls a lot taller than boys. but then the boys just shoot up and start getting a lot bigger. yeah so we'll see. >> think the way the world's >> i think the way the world's going, though, we know. it going, though, we never know. it might all, you know, no sex, might be all, you know, no sex, anything. might anything. you know, you might be just girls, and women. >> if you had mixed teams, it wouldn't matter, would it? it might do. >> mean, know, the world's >> i mean, you know, the world's changing every few it changing every few years. it keeps more more and keeps changing more and more and more. you're not dead set more. so you're not dead set against no. see, you against it? no. we'll see, you know, they get beaten, know, see if they get beaten, you every next you know, every game next season, they will then season, maybe they will then maybe to them to decide. maybe up to them to decide. maybe say, actually, do you maybe they say, actually, do you know no. we'll play with know what? no. we'll play with girls. know what? no. we'll play with girlyeah. tell you. well, >> yeah. i'll tell you. well, well good on him. yeah. >> good them. that well good on him. yeah. >> gia d them. that well good on him. yeah. >> gia bit. them. that well good on him. yeah. >> gia bit. ahem. that well good on him. yeah. >> gia bit. a good that well good on him. yeah. >> gia bit. a good film, that story a bit. a good film, candice, let's talk about
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smacking shall we? in smacking children, shall we? in the telegraph. yes. >> telegraph columnist >> so the telegraph columnist william he the william sitwell, he supports the latest paediatricians latest calls by paediatricians to ban smacking, which is illegal in scotland and wales. but isn't in england. and he says that he was smacked and he he had corporal punishments and he had corporal punishments and he went through all of that when he went through all of that when he was younger. but the first time he actually smacked his son, he said he was filled with overwhelming guilt because he smacked son's hand he smacked his son's hand and he didn't listen. he said, if didn't listen. and he said, if you do it again, i'll smack you again. his son just gave him again. and his son just gave him his hand. and he said the guilt he felt parent was immense. he felt as a parent was immense. oh, get a grip. but i just why? why has parenting changed so much? because yeah, much? because quickly. yeah, yeah. the rod and spoil the >> spare the rod and spoil the child. >> because don't think our >> because i don't think our parents our parents generation or our grandparents felt any guilt at all physically punishing all about physically punishing children. think our children. but i think our generation agonises over it. >> it's levels of it. — >> it's levels of it. it.— >> it's levels of it. i it. >> it's levels of it. i mean, some some people are very severely punished and physically , which obviously they know the questions about that, but it's whether it's just a gentle, you
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know, just a just a smack. >> exactly. and, and i don't think parents should be criminalised for that. so i would never support smacking would never support a smacking ban. i mean, i'd say refrain from doing physical punishment because my because generally, in my experience, you're experience, it means you're overwhelmed can't handle overwhelmed and you can't handle the i don't think the situation. but i don't think that should to face that parents should have to face serious repercussions just for, you quick . yeah, i mean, you know, a quick. yeah, i mean, it really clipped around the ears. yeah. >> sort of thing. >> sort of thing. >> what do you think, winston? >> what do you think, winston? >> discretion appearance. i mean , can't be punching or , look, you can't be punching or hitting them with planks of wood, you know, but if you decide that, you know, a swift smack is going to stun your child changing how they're child into changing how they're behaving in that moment. fair enough. i'm not like , it's not enough. i'm not like, it's not something i do. but i think, again, you can't criminalise parents for deciding how they're going their children , going to raise their children, again, you've got that line of what's for the what's maybe what's good for the what's maybe good for the child and then abuse. and you've like, you can't going nowhere near that. >> you need sometimes you need the of it. i was the threat of it. i was constantly threatened and still
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am, my because it's a am, by my mother because it's a running joke. now, if i misbehave, i would. will smack misbehave, i would. i will smack your in public. your legs in public. >> we always used to get. i'll bang your heads together. >> yeah, but the thing is, though, i still say that to me. >> i think the thing is, i was. i was probably hit on the other side of it. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> and actually i become an angry young man i my angry young man and i my reaction to young, young reaction then to young, young men, been being young men, i've been being a young boy. i remember punching of a young and because it's young kid. and because it's that's yeah. that's what i started. yeah. that's started to as that's what i started to know as my reaction. don't, my reaction. yeah, i don't, i don't get what i, what i'm wanting. you know, parent doesn't get what they're wanting . oh well, your action is, you know, a kid even thinking know, as a kid not even thinking about it, you're just like, right, i know it. it's interesting. and then that's a sorry. go on. >> was going to say you >> no, i was going to say you say you like gabor mate as well, the psychologist. really the psychologist. and he really does about you know, does talk about that. you know, you to learn to try and you have to learn to try and sort of you have to try and understand children understand why behaving why they're behaving the way they're think it why they're behaving the way th true think it why they're behaving the way th true that think it why they're behaving the way thtrue that some think it why they're behaving the way thtrue that some people 1ink it why they're behaving the way th true that some people will it is true that some people will just resort to physical means because they're not they're
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struggling to their struggling to relate to their children struggling to children and struggling to communicate with them. >> it's finding that >> but but it's finding that balance, isn't it? you balance, isn't it? and as you say, you don't want sort of say, you don't want that sort of behaviour, doesn't mean behaviour, but that doesn't mean you ban everything. no, you have to ban everything. no, it's it's finding the it's finding it's finding the balance is your discretion, can we pandas? winston, we talk about pandas? winston, in star? because in the daily star? because we have problems with have constant problems with pandas. have constant problems with paryeah, big issues with >> yeah, some big issues with pandas. issues with. pandas. big issues with. >> might have found key. >> you might have found the key. well, a study in 2021 found that, pandas with good gut health performs more sexually and said that it might be a way of helping, humans as well by having a good, good, as you say , having a good, good, as you say, a good bacteria in their gut. but how does what i can't work out with pandas is they only eat one thing. bamboo. >> yes. how are they having a varied diet? >> so i think we'll go back to humans. they say you've got eat 35 varieties of different plants in a week get the right in a week to get the right amount of polyphenols in your system. actually system. and then that actually then you to, to, to have then helps you to, to, to have a better gut. you can eat, fermented, food that's got live microbes in it, right. and high
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fibre. >> i can't keep up with everything you're meant to be eating. that's meant to be good for you. i mean, how many? 35. >> i've got a thick book i'm reading at the moment. i think by the time i get to it, i might be 60. so it's. >> well, then you won't be bothered anyway. yeah. then bothered anyway. yeah. by then possibly, don't possibly, there you go. i don't know, all very know, it all gets very complicated , but if it if it complicated, but if it if it helps if anyone's got issues. yeah >> look into your gut health. >> look into your gut health. >> look into your gut health, candice, let's talk about this protest across the canary islands today. >> yes. yeah. so this is in the guardian. and this is, residents of the canary islands, particularly tenerife, are starting to get very irritated with the amount of tourists that are coming over. >> well, i'll tell you who's there at the moment. who's there? patrick christys and emily carver. >> i know, know a few people >> i know, i know a few people who've gone to tenerife, so be very annoyed them. yes, but very annoyed with them. yes, but i this is a general trend now. >> i don't blame them. >> i don't blame them. >> mean, lot of these places >> i mean, a lot of these places who have sort of, seen like this huge in like the cheaper
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huge rise in like the cheaper package holidays of package holidays are sort of pushing you've pushing back now. so you've got, amsterdam, they're banning the, the, building of new hotels , the, the building of new hotels, various places in spain are saying that locals are being pnced saying that locals are being priced out of the rental market. they're also saying you've got water shortages because you see such explosion the such an explosion in the population. and venice population. and even venice apparently just felt like they were completely were getting completely overwhelmed. difficult, overwhelmed. it's difficult, though, because that their though, because that is their economic that is economic model. yeah, that is how they make money. but the locals don't like it. they feel like their way of life is being really disruptive. yeah, disrupted. >> yeah. it's interesting because we sort of get the general is, general reaction over here is, how you you don't want how dare you say you don't want us? and yet if it was the other way around, we get fed up with tourists don't we? 100. >> i mean, look, if again, if we took tourist leave in the took away tourist leave in the uk to to these places and uk to go to these places and there, you know, people there, you know, these people that rely tourism didn't have that rely on tourism didn't have their couldn't feed their business, couldn't feed their business, couldn't feed their family. they'll be their family. they'll soon be saying, come back, saying, oh, can you come back, please? yeah. so it's like it's probably balance it? please? yeah. so it's like it's pro youy balance it? please? yeah. so it's like it's pro youy b'those it? please? yeah. so it's like it's pro youy b'those local it? please? yeah. so it's like it's pro youy b'those local people >> you want those local people to able afford their own
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to be able to afford their own homes put food on table, homes and put food on the table, but, you we have a maybe but, you know, we have a maybe they should holiday , bring they should go on holiday, bring a different clientele. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> oh, don't mixed results. >> oh, don't mixed results. >> it's the same in wales and cornwall where they second cornwall where they ban second homes. saying locals homes. they were saying locals were out, but were getting priced out, but they've since discovered locals actually aren't buying the actually still aren't buying the houses and they're houses anyway. oh, and they're losing the business. losing a lot of the business. >> that's interesting right. losing a lot of the business. >> that hat's interesting right. losing a lot of the business. >> that note,interesting right. losing a lot of the business. >> that note, we resting right. losing a lot of the business. >> that note, we rest outright. losing a lot of the business. >> that note, we rest out of 1t. on that note, we are out of time. winston. candice, thank on that note, we are out of timebothiston. candice, thank on that note, we are out of timeboth very. candice, thank on that note, we are out of timeboth very much.ce, thank on that note, we are out of timeboth very much.ce, thmuch. you both very much. very much. go improve your gut go off and improve your gut health as we get a check on the weather with annie shuttleworth. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boiler is sponsors of weather on gb news. >> good morning. welcome to your latest gb news weather update . latest gb news weather update. this weekend will be dry for many of us. the best of the sunshine will be in the west, particularly through today and across eastern areas. actually, particularly through today and across ygoing] areas. actually, particularly through today and across going to reas. actually, particularly through today and across going to be ;. actually, particularly through today and across going to be quiterally, particularly through today and across going to be quite1a|cool there's going to be quite a cool feeling breeze this north feeling breeze with this north easterly wind coming off the nonh easterly wind coming off the north sea. that will bring some cloud to eastern areas through
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this morning. elsewhere, though, it stay and bright. it should stay dry and bright. however, we head towards however, as we head towards lunchtime, the lunchtime, i think more in the way cloud will bubble up way of cloud will bubble up across areas. parts across western areas. parts of wales as well, wales into the midlands as well, but should stay dry through but it should stay dry through much and it will feel much of the day and it will feel fairly pleasant in the sunshine in. this evening we'll in. later on this evening we'll start see parts of scotland start to see parts of scotland see some rain arrive as this area rain pushes from the area of rain pushes in from the north. will bring thicker north. that will bring thicker cloud to many areas of scotland as that area of cloud as well. and that area of cloud is going southwards is going to sink southwards through evening, covering through this evening, covering many areas of northern england, and across and that will likely sit across parts midlands, possibly parts of the midlands, possibly into by sunday into the southeast. by sunday morning. drizzly rain will morning. this drizzly rain will likely northern areas of likely affect northern areas of england, scotland as england, southern scotland as well morning as well through sunday morning as well. be well. but it's going to be fairly the fairly light. but where the skies clear, going to skies stay clear, it's going to be chilly night. tonight be another chilly night. tonight we could see a touch of frost developing once again. as i said, there is a bit of uncertainty in how widespread this cloud will be. could this cloud will be. it could cover more southeastern areas, but progresses, but as the day progresses, i think better chance think there'll be better chance of brighter spells developing, particularly across the south and northwest , where it's and the northwest, where it's actually going to be the warmest
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through the rest of the weekend. however this central however for this central slither, it will likely stay fairly little bit fairly dull and a little bit cooler for much of the day, with a some drizzly rain. a chance of some drizzly rain. have day! bye. have a great day! bye bye. >> a outlook with boxt >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar. weather solar. the sponsors of weather on
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gb news. >> good morning to you. it's 9:00 on saturday, the 20th of april. today >> quite openly jewish. this is a pro—palestinian march . >> quite openly jewish. this is a pro—palestinian march. i'm not accusing you of anything, but i'm worried about the reaction to your presence. >> the metropolitan police issued an apology after officers threatened to arrest a jewish man wearing a kippah as he walked through central london dunng walked through central london during a pro—palestine protest. catherine forster's got the latest. >> yes, the met police have admitted that they did get this
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completely wrong, but last month the government's counter extremism tsar said that london, on the days of these protests, is becoming a no go area for jews. is he right? i'll bring you more details shortly . you more details shortly. >> gb news can confirm the man who set himself on fire outside the trump hush money trial has now died in hospital. >> world leaders call for calm in the middle east after tensions rose following the israeli strike on iran yesterday i >> -- >> is the british fry up toast? according to new research, generation z turn their backs on the breakfast classic, deeming it too fatty . it too fatty. >> good morning. it's fa cup semi—final weekend and the row over fa cup replays shows no sign of letting up, with prime minister rishi sunak and his labour counterpart sir keir starmer weighing in with their takes. we'll be joined by a former chelsea favourite to look ahead to their clash tonight with manchester city at wembley. >> a bright but
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>> morning. it's a bright but chilly start for many of us across the uk. how the rest across the uk. how will the rest of the weekend pan out? well, you find out the details you can find out all the details with a little later on. with me a little later on. >> morning to you. i'm stephen dixon i'm ellie costello and dixon and i'm ellie costello and this breakfast on . this is breakfast on. gb news. dear me, loads of you getting in touch , on a whole host of touch, on a whole host of issues, you all lack a fry up. i'll tell you that for nothing. oh, now my computer's crashed . oh, now my computer's crashed. oh, now my computer's crashed. oh, there you go. there you go. that's a good timing for you , that's a good timing for you, loads of people fry up. they don't like hash browns. oh don't like hash browns. on because they're american. >> oh, well, that's very true, actually. are you still having black pudding? that's what we want to know the answer to. >> oh, here we go. dawn says. in leicester we no longer have traditional butchers and can't traditional butchers and i can't find anyone sells the old find anyone who sells the old horseshoe of black horseshoe shape of black pudding. lovely. i've been pudding. it's lovely. i've been eating childhood . eating it since childhood. horseshoe pudding? horseshoe shaped black pudding? sure. what? she's like a
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cumberland sausage thing. yeah well, eric saying you have to order online also love horseshoe black pudding. >> boiled. oh, with lashings of mustard . is that a thing? mustard. is that a thing? >> but i don't know. my brother likes it. he fries it. >> yeah, i've had it fried before. i'm not mad. or black pudding, actually, i think if you know, it's not. yeah, it's a bit. >> no. so there you go . oh >> no. so there you go. on margot's off to tenerife on tuesday because there's a big protest there, because they don't want us to go over really too many tourists got a population of 2.2 million and 13.9 million people go there every year. so i sort of understand it to an extent. >> you retain that information very well. you just retain that? >> yeah . something. margot's off >> yeah. something. margot's off to tenerife on tuesday. she's she the time. but she she goes all the time. but she must agree there some who must agree there are some who just behave . so there you just can't behave. so there you go. >> oh steven not this steven i bet you wish it was you steven butler says just ordered a full english. on right. and debbie big bird says yes come to stoke.
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we have loads of horseshoe black pudding horseshoes. >> this horseshoe thing come from i don't know, i've never heard of it until literally now. you all have obviously. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> so there you go . keep your >> so there you go. keep your thoughts coming through. gb views news. com slash your views gb news. com slash your so. >> oh there's so many on on fry ups. we always get you going on the food. >> that's what it is. you're very aligned in this way aren't we. your tummy is rumbling. >> it's really rumbling i'm very sorry if you can hear it on my microphone. it's very loud this morning. it's very loud. i'm going to fry up. we'd be going home to fry up. we'd be pleased. yeah. there you go. >> fine after that. >> you'll be fine after that. yeah main news this yeah right. our main news this morning, metropolitan police morning, the metropolitan police apologising for causing further offence original offence because of an original sort of apology about an officer's terms. officer's use of the terms. openly jewish an openly jewish to an anti—semitism campaigner was anti—semitism campaigner who was near march. this near a pro—palestine march. this is happened. near a pro—palestine march. this is happened . you are quite is what happened. you are quite openly jewish. >> is a pro—palestinian >> this is a pro—palestinian march, right? i'm not accusing you of anything, but i'm worried about the reaction to your presence. >> presence. >> well, the chief executive of campaign against anti—semitism
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was kippah skullcap was wearing a kippah skullcap when he was stopped from crossing a road near the demonstration in london last saturday. >> well, the shadow policing minister, alex norris, spoke to us earlier. >> there can be no place for hate in this. and if there is racism in this case, anti—semitism, there cannot be that of so you know that sort of thing. so you know what's happened is wrong and we're glad that the police have accepted that. >> well, gb news political correspondent forster correspondent katherine forster joins there's a lot joins us now. and there's a lot to unpack here, isn't there, catherine? because only catherine? because it's not only that exchange, which that initial exchange, which we've clip of, but we've just seen a clip of, but then the handling of the situation by the metropolitan police basically police since, yes, it basically has worse and worse and has got worse and worse and worse for the metropolitan police. worse for the metropolitan pol this worse for the metropolitan polthis because, this gentleman >> this because, this gentleman had been leaving the synagogue. he was spoken to by the officer that you've seen. he was then later spoken to by another officer who basically threatened to arrest him. the police s put out an apology. >> well, sort of apology , >> well, sort of apology, supposedly an apology last night, but the assistant
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commissioner , matt twist, said commissioner, matt twist, said that the presence of a jewish people near the march could be provocative . provocative. >> that's not surprisingly, led to a huge backlash , saying, to a huge backlash, saying, well, you're victim blaming effectively here at this jewish person is not the problem. the police then issued another statement, sort of apologising for the apology , if you like, for the apology, if you like, and they've said being jewish is not a provocation. jewish londoners must be able to feel safe in this city. but i do find the fact that they are issuing a statement saying being jewish is not a provocation is quite something, isn't it? because we have freedom of speech and freedom of religion in this country . the fact that they are country. the fact that they are even saying that is really quite significant. now the government, very unhappy with the police's handung very unhappy with the police's handling of this. the home secretary , james cleverly, has secretary, james cleverly, has written to the met police, also to sadiq khan suella braverman the former home secretary, who
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called these marches hate marchers , has also been getting marchers, has also been getting involved. and she has said if the police are failing to enforce the law out of fear of the reaction of the mob, they are no longer policing without fear or favour. >> and i have to say that's a fair point. it's very hard to argue against that, isn't it? i mean, i'm not saying that it's right. i don't think suella braverman is right when she calls them hate marches because there are a lot of people there who who aren't there for that reason, presumably. i mean, that should be the case, but if there's significant fear that someone, a jewish person being in the vicinity is going to generate hate, then something isn't right, something isn't right, and the point is, you know, it does feel a bit like double standards, doesn't it? >> so , yes, i think you're quite >> so, yes, i think you're quite right, there are elements of hate on these marches, but the vast majority of people just
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want the killing in gaza to stop. you do. i've been to a lot of these marches. you do see some jews at these protests as well. but have to say, obviously that's not not very many. but you do occasionally also see jewish people holding placards saying jews against the genocide in gaza, as some people see it. so it's very difficult. but, you know, it's only a few weeks since rishi sunak stood outside downing street warning of the rise in extremism, saying to the marchers don't let extremists huack marchers don't let extremists hijack your marches and also to the police to be tougher. this war that's going on thousands of miles away is having very, very big consequences for us here in london. and, you know, the government has put a lot of money into supporting jewish communities. it also the communities. but it is also the case. been a huge rise case. there's been a huge rise in anti—semitic attacks, anti—islamic also. but, you know, a lot of jewish people simply will avoid central london on the days of these protests for exactly the reason that we've seen. and that's a really
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sad state of affairs. >> it is. katherine forster, good to see you this morning. thank you very much indeed. and on that. david critchfield has just touch saying he just been in touch saying he says police officer was says the police officer was wrong. was giving into the wrong. he was giving into the mob. was no longer policing , mob. he was no longer policing, i should point out, not that i've got them right in front of me , some people emailed in me, some people have emailed in saying thought the police saying they thought the police officer the correct officer behaved in the correct way. you know , there way. okay, so, you know, there are two arguments being put forward to us from from you this morning. the vast majority of you, thinking it wasn't handled correctly. and you can keep your thoughts coming through gbnews.com slash your. so we'll get my head around that very shortly . yeah. shortly. yeah. >> me too. now, the man who set himself on fire outside a courthouse in new york where donald trump's hush money trial was underway, has now died in hospital . hospital. >> yeah, gb news was able to confirm that with the nypd police have identified the man as maxwell azzarello from florida, who was in his 30s.
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>> well , florida, who was in his 30s. >> well, earlier, we spoke to an expert in us and international politics, professor scott lucas . politics, professor scott lucas. >> in the case before that, people have committed, self—immolation over various issues, you could think about it happening during the vietnam war, for example , in this case, war, for example, in this case, mr azzarello , appeared to be mr azzarello, appeared to be a conspiracy theorist, he had pamphlets about ponzi schemes, about the mob being in control of, new york city's educational institutions . but what makes it institutions. but what makes it different, i think, in the 21st century is simply the speed and the scope of social media and the scope of social media and the way that that people will spread ideas or spread conspiracy theories so quickly , conspiracy theories so quickly, and how dialogue can very quickly be replaced by division and by shouting, i have to emphasise for viewers here that although mr azzarello set himself on fire outside the courthouse where the first of donald trump's criminal trials
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are proceeding, it, it has no connection with the criminal trial itself . he just connection with the criminal trial itself. he just simply chose a spot where he could get a lot of attention . but on your a lot of attention. but on your broader point, yes, american politics has become a lot more polarised. and that's been the case since the late 20th century, even before social media developed . we can discuss media developed. we can discuss why, and in large part donald trump, his own style, his own way of , of trump, his own style, his own way of, of using social media has sort of accentuated that polarisation , even before we polarisation, even before we talk about the legal and political significance of the trials that are starting this yean trials that are starting this year, professor, very, very sad to hear that this individual has lost his life, but so traumatic as well. for those bystanders, those witnesses that saw this, this horror play out in front of the courthouse. and we're also heanng the courthouse. and we're also hearing that police officers suffered injuries as well . suffered injuries as well. >> yeah, there were some injuries, from people from smoking inhalation that were trying to, you know, beat this man on the scene, trying to save
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his life there, it it is the case that when you get a charged atmosphere, you have the question of security. and i have to emphasise that despite the warnings or the concerns that we might have a lot of security incidents around donald trump's trials , that has not occurred. trials, that has not occurred. it just so happens in this case that one individual chose this as the setting for what happens. i think there's a discussion here. you've been having it on other fronts about mental health, about how people in this era where everything comes out of so fast and so loud can protect mental health. i think it's a case where i'm hoping that in my native country, in the years to come, we get back to discussing the issues in a calmer way , in a way where we calmer way, in a way where we have a lot more respect and tolerance . tolerance. >> now, back here, it's saint george's day next week, and hundreds of military and naval cadets are marching alongside members of the royal society of saint george in honour of
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england's fallen servicemen and women. >> well, this comes as the patriotic group celebrate their 130th anniversary, let's head to the cenotaph in london. will hollis is there for us? morning. will >> good morning. yes, well, will >> good morning. yes, well , for >> good morning. yes, well, for more than 100 years, the cenotaph has been the nation's focal point for remembrance. but it is also used to mark days of national significance , like national significance, like saint george's day, which, of course, is next tuesday , the course, is next tuesday, the 23rd of april. and there are going to be a number of celebrations happening in towns and cities, not just here in england, but across the uk and even further afield as well. but this is the national focus. even further afield as well. but this is the national focus . and this is the national focus. and later today we're going to be seeing a parade organised by the royal society of saint george. and nick, you are the chairman of that society. just describe for you doing this for me why are you doing this today for saint george's day? >> i think it's a very >> well, i think it's a very important day to celebrate, the royal george have been laying a
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wreath at the cenotaph since 1921. so just after it was, it was built, and it's a great way of commemorating those who sacrificed so much for us, in the last 30 years, we've added a cadet parade to it. so it's great to get the younger generation, the cadet, the youth involved and, and give them something that they'll always remember and i suppose it inspires hope for the nation, seeing that young people are so proud of saint george and willing to take part in this. >> where saint george now in >> where is saint george now in engush >> where is saint george now in english society, the english society, and what's the role royal society of role of the royal society of saint george? >> role of the society, as >> the role of the society, as was founded 130 years ago, was to celebrate england and englishness. and i think today it's even more important to do that with the with a lot of the challenges we have today with people undermining who we are as a nation and our history. so we need to stand up and celebrate and use saint george's as a unifying figure, not a divisive
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figure. and i think there's too much divisiveness around. so how do we bring that together and celebrate we are a celebrate who we are as a nafion? celebrate who we are as a nation? our history, traditions and , the royal society of and ideals, the royal society of saint george, as i've been told, is non—political, open all is non—political, open to all sorts faiths backgrounds. sorts of faiths and backgrounds. but say english values, but when you say english values, englishness and traditions, what is you're describing ? is it that you're describing? >> is a challenging >> well, that is a challenging one. it's tolerance. it's, it's belief in, in our country and our history , we are a nation our history, we are a nation that's very diverse . there's no that's very diverse. there's no true english people. we're all over the years, we've developed into a nation and have a proud history that we want to share and build on, ahead of saint george's day. what do you want people to take away? as we do remember, england's patron saint, somebody that's been the patron saint since as early as the 14th century. but his history goes back much further . history goes back much further. >> it does mean saint george stands for valour, for , for,
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stands for valour, for, for, what's the word? it's that unifying figure that that figure that we can all get behind and celebrate and, and be proud of who we are. >> and that's something that we maybe need now more than ever, as you say. >> absolutely . i think with the >> absolutely. i think with the challenges we're facing, we need to look ahead together . how do to look ahead together. how do we improve that ? that we improve that? that patriotism, patriotism, english patriotism, patriotism, english patriotism has been conflated with nationalism, and that is a challenge for us, if you're a proud welshman, scotsman, irishman, no one worries. but if you're a proud englishman, people take a step back. so this is an attempt to step forward and say, no, we're english. we're proud of being english and look to the future positively. >> yeah, that's something that you don't need to worried you don't need to be worried about or concerned about. it's okay be proud and patriotic okay to be proud and patriotic to be english in your view. to be english in. in your view. >> absolutely. we've got a very proud history the last 100 proud history over the last 100 years or 2 or 300 years through
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industrialisation , even through industrialisation, even through scientists, explorers, inventors , medical, you know, arts. there's so much this country has done and we should celebrate that. and remember that and look at it in a balanced way, i think. >> and as i just said a moment ago, it's not just here in london, it's not in places like nottingham or around the rest of the country. it's also in different parts of the world, in places like australia and america. why you think that america. why do you think that people around the want to people around the world want to celebrate saint, not celebrate our patron saint, not just here in london? >> well, the society goes back over 250 years in america . and over 250 years in america. and so there are lots of people who have links to this country and want to celebrate that and remember that, like a lot of expats, i think you tend to be more proud of your home country when overseas, when you're overseas, but i think it's important try and think it's important to try and remember it here. we've got a lot of branches in the uk. they have done. they're having events all country at all all around the country at the bolton had the moment. bolton branch had a big yesterday. on monday, big event yesterday. on monday, the city of london branch are
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having a big event in guildhall. so it is alive and well . it having a big event in guildhall. so it is alive and well. it is struggling in some places, but it's something we want to turn around and really build on and then celebrate who we are and what we stand for. >> nick hewer, chairman of the royal society of saint george, thank you much. i know thank you very much. i know you've a very busy day. thank you very much. i know you've goingyery busy day. thank you very much. i know you've goingyenbery day. thank you very much. i know you've goingyenbe ay day. thank you very much. i know you've goingyenbe a moment of there's going to be a moment of silence, well wreath silence, as well as wreath laying just a few hours, as laying in just a few hours, as well as hundreds army and well as hundreds of army and naval passing down naval cadets passing down whitehall the cenotaph later whitehall at the cenotaph later today. >> e�*- f stuff. well, >> brilliant stuff. well, hollow. to see you hollow. it's good to see you this morning. thank very this morning. thank you very much indeed. >> now it looks quite nice >> right now it looks quite nice at cenotaph. at the cenotaph. >> does look nice and sunny. >> let's see what the weather's going to do for you today. here's annie. >> warm feeling inside from >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers, sponsors of weather on gb news. >> good morning. welcome to your latest gb news weather update. this weekend will be dry for many of us. the best of the sunshine will be in the west, particularly through today and
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across eastern areas. actually, there's going to be quite a cool feeling breeze with this north easterly wind coming off the nonh easterly wind coming off the north that bring north sea. that will bring some cloud through cloud to eastern areas through this elsewhere though, this morning. elsewhere though, it and bright. it should stay dry and bright. however, we towards however, as we head towards lunchtime , think more in the lunchtime, i think more in the way cloud will bubble up way of cloud will bubble up across areas. of across western areas. parts of wales into midlands as well, wales into the midlands as well, but should stay through but it should stay dry through much of the day and it will feel fairly in sunshine fairly pleasant in the sunshine later on this evening we'll start parts scotland, start to see parts of scotland, see rain arrive as this see some rain arrive as this area of rain pushes in from the north. will bring thicker north. that will bring thicker cloud to many areas scotland cloud to many areas of scotland as and that area of cloud as well. and that area of cloud is sink southwards is going to sink southwards through this evening, covering is going to sink southwards througareas. evening, covering is going to sink southwards througareas. e\ northern yvering is going to sink southwards througareas. e\ northern england, is going to sink southwards througarewillamorthern england, is going to sink southwards througarewill likely1ern england, is going to sink southwards througarewill likely sit] england, is going to sink southwards througarewill likely sit acrossind, and that will likely sit across parts midlands, possibly parts of the midlands, possibly into the southeast. by sunday morning. drizzly rain will morning. this drizzly rain will likely affect northern areas of england, southern scotland as well, through sunday morning as well. but it's going to be fairly light. but where the skies stay clear, it's going to be another chilly night tonight we see a touch of frost we could see a touch of frost developing again as i said, developing once again as i said, there of uncertainty in there is a bit of uncertainty in how cloud will how widespread this cloud will
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next. welcome back to breakfast. the time is 9:24 at sports time. and aidan's with us. good morning. it is indeed. >> yeah. so i want to talk about the fa cup replay situation because it's very rare that a football story involves or ianes football story involves or invites the contributions of the prime minister and the leader of the opposition. now as we touched on earlier on, stephen, this is an election year. so is prone to happen, isn't it? >> on the side of the fans? yeah totally. >> yeah. well, exactly. i mean, it is a bit controversial. it does seem as if the teams at the top of the table want to preserve themselves and limit the of games that they the number of games that they have. really want to have. they don't really want to be to gillingham on be going to gillingham on a tuesday night if can tuesday night if they can possibly avoid it. my argument would if these squads are would be if these squads are good enough, should really good enough, they should really be dispatch the teams in be able to dispatch the teams in the outside the lower league or outside the premier league quite comfortably. caused comfortably. what's also caused some throughout the some some anger throughout the pyramid, that at the pyramid, steven, is that at the end season, clubs like
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end of this season, clubs like tottenham newcastle united tottenham and newcastle united will days end will be within days of the end of the season. we'll be going to the east australia or the far east or australia or america play lucrative america to play lucrative friendly, so if they've got time in to do that, then in the schedule to do that, then surely they've got time in surely they've got time to in the schedule play a replay in the schedule to play a replay in january, haven't they, or february. give lifeline january, haven't they, or fe a uary. give lifeline january, haven't they, or fe a club give lifeline january, haven't they, or fe a club that give lifeline january, haven't they, or fe a club that mayve lifeline january, haven't they, or fe a club that may be lifeline to a club that may be struggling? think example struggling? i think the example was united. there was hartlepool united. there were £5 million in debt a couple of ago. fa cup replay of years ago. an fa cup replay against one of boys against one of the big boys really did wipe out. it really did wipe that out. so it does difference. you does make a difference. you know, when barrow got to know, you saw when barrow got to the got plum tie against the got got a plum tie against aston villa a few years ago. what it did for the town. yeah. they spoke this morning they spoke out this morning or yesterday said was yesterday rather and said it was they outraged what was they were outraged by what was going it is having an going on and it is having an effect down the pyramid. it's you know, i find it a little bit unedifying. i think it's about greed the clubs. the greed for the top clubs. the sheffield united manager yesterday, chris wilder, said the don't want to the big boys just don't want to play the big boys just don't want to play these fa cup replays. they're the bringing the they're the ones bringing the money into game and so their money into the game and so their decision holds. sway. decision holds. holds sway. yeah. i mean. yeah. what about what i mean. what big clubs saying what are the big clubs saying about it then. >> well the big clubs have not.
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well they're speaking, they're hiding premier league hiding behind the premier league right league right now. so the premier league came a statement came out with a statement yesterday that was yesterday saying that this was a tripartite agreement. so it involved efl, the fa involved the, the efl, the fa and the premier league. the efl then responded saying hang on then responded by saying hang on a we weren't involved in a minute, we weren't involved in this. in these this. where were we in these discussions? so there's a round taking between the taking place between the three major governing bodies of domestic that's domestic football. and so that's what involvement what invited the involvement of the and the the prime minister and the leader of the opposition. and there's want to bring there's somebody i want to bring in this actually, in on this actually, specifically. and that's the former gary former chelsea defender, gary chivers, gary, the chivers, because gary, the fa cup have caused great cup replays have caused a great deal this week, deal of consternation this week, in your perspective in terms of your perspective as a player , is it time a former player, is it time they, they left schedule? do they, they left the schedule? do you think they had their day? >> i don't think so. i think it's, you know, everyone loves the fa cup. everyone loves playing in it, and for these, for these little clubs, what you call the little clubs, sometimes they, they do well against the big clubs. they knock the big clubs but also it's all clubs out. but also it's all about the replay. if they get a replay, it's so much extra
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revenue that that keeps clubs surviving . surviving. >> really, i remember you >> really, gary, i remember you taking for brighton in 1991 taking part for brighton in 1991 and an fa cup replay against liverpool. i think it was round five back then. i mean, that was an era when brian were really struggling. not struggling. it's not the brighton today we know brighton of today that we know that lifeline to the club that was a lifeline to the club financially, wasn't it? >> aided it kept the club >> it aided it kept the club going, and we, we was i think we was two nil down. we got back to two all and we could have won it with, with mike small, in the last five minutes. but the replay, i think the revenue from the 45,000 or 40,000 that was anfield . and going back to the anfield. and going back to the old goldstone, it really kept the club going for the next 5 or 6 months. you know, it paid wages. >> and what do you think about what i just touched on with steven there, the big clubs immediately as the season finishes, they're going away to australia, america , to the australia, to america, to the far east and elsewhere to play lucrative friendlies . it makes lucrative friendlies. it makes a mockery of the fact that they
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don't have time for fa cup replays in their schedule, doesn't it? >> really, really does, you >> it really, really does, you you've got to look at the whole situation and, and the clubs that are, that are saying like, yeah, we want replays are the smaller clubs. and like i said before , it just keeps the whole before, it just keeps the whole thing ticking over. they've got money coming in. they know they're playing against a big club. but for the team like brighton at that at time brighton at that at that time i think we had i think we played man united in the league cup as well . so it was the revenue for well. so it was the revenue for the club for a whole year. >> and can i ask you about the turning our attention actually to against to chelsea today against manchester there a good manchester city? is there a good time face manchester city as time to face manchester city as far as your old club is concerned, a huge psychological blow knocked out the blow of being knocked out of the champions earlier in the champions league earlier in the week madrid. week against real madrid. >> never find a better >> you'll never find a better time play city after all time to play man city after all the travelling and all the games they've had. the thing in midweek, playing against real madrid, i mean, what a game that was. but the one thing that surprised me, aiden and there
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might be a little chip in guardiola's, mettle is when it came to the last five minutes, the substitution of erling haaland and kevin de bruyne coming off when you know, they're two penalty takers. so it must have been a shock to him as well. >> and just quickly tomorrow gary coventry go up against manchester city under pressure erik ten hag. but surely he'll never have a better chance to reach an fa cup final as it did last year. >> yeah, i mean it's a great it's a great opportunity. then again, coventry going to wembley revenue, you know, getting all that gate receipts and things like it's brilliant for them and, no better time to play man city. but for coventry , no city. but for coventry, no better time to be playing united because they haven't been doing so well in the premiership. >> so listen, gary, thanks very much for us on gb much indeed forjoining us on gb news morning. it's great to news this morning. it's great to hear insight about the fa hear your insight about the fa cup hear stephen as cup and good to hear stephen as well, that, it does provide a lifestyle lifeline. >> do you think this decision could i do think it could change? i do think it
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could change? i do think it could change. >> think it's i was going to >> i think it's i was going to ask, it? ask, is it? >> well, look, sunak said >> well, well, look, sunak said it's for the football it's one for the football authorities. you something >> i'll tell you something crucial here. i think they've tried rush this through ahead tried to rush this through ahead of onset of the regulator, of the onset of the regulator, because don't think because i don't think the regulator and regulator would like that. and i think to rush think they've tried to rush rush it before regulator it in before the regulator comes, comes pass. comes, comes to pass. >> right. comes, comes to pass. >> oh, it. comes, comes to pass. >> oh, well, fingers crossed it doesn't happen. >> erling haaland a doubt for >> erling haaland is a doubt for manchester today as well. manchester city today as well. so he could tip the balance. chelsea's favour you never know. >> good aiden thank >> good do good do aiden thank you indeed. you very much indeed. >> and we're talking a lot about fry ups this morning or cooked breakfast. need fry ups this morning or cooked br> yeah, but need the beans >> yeah, but you need the beans to all up. to mop it all up. >> yeah, i do like a few beans. anyway, keep your thoughts coming we're going
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and we're talking about food. a lot this morning. >> yes. our favourite topic. >> yes. our favourite topic. >> yeah, well, actually, and i've just found this in the star. oh, go on, if you're of an age. apparently the food of the 70s is coming back for levant. so volvo's quiche trifle , prawn cocktail. >> these are all good things. >> these are all good things. >> and , cheese and pineapple on sticks. >> okay . >> okay. >> okay. >> that's not such a good thing. >> that's not such a good thing. >> oh no no no that's fantastic. >> oh no no no that's fantastic. >> no, you can't. no pineapple shouldn't be with anything savoury. >> no no no, it works really well. >> it works really well. but cheese i've had a falafel in years. >> see where i've got irish family that it never went out of style. >> oh didn't it? >> oh didn't it? >> and if you are irish and you can relate to this every irish wedding, it's never gone out of
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style here it'd be style there, but here it'd be great see more of them on the great to see more of them on the menu. i like a chicken one. >> oh, right. well, it's not good for me, but cheese and cheese and pineapple on sticks and trifle. >> got lot of time for >> i've got a lot of time for trifle, but apparently now i was in in norfolk this week, in cromer in norfolk this week, and lives and alison gross, who lives there, know why. there, i don't know why. >> know how you've got >> i don't know how you've got yourself quoted in the papers, but go. she put on but there you go. she put on a 70s dinner party at most people who had tried fondue who came had never tried fondue or how can you never or trifle. how can you never have trifle ? yeah. that's have tried trifle? yeah. that's weird. is one of the best weird. trifle is one of the best things that god ever invented. >> well, would you still have trifle quite regularly? >> yeah. trifle quite regularly? >> well,eah. trifle quite regularly? >> well, 31h. trifle quite regularly? >> well, 3 or 4 times a year. yeah.i >> well, 3 or 4 times a year. yeah. i mean, not, you know, my mom makes good trifle. >> does she still them >> does she still makes them very often. >> does she still makes them veryeah.1. >> does she still makes them veryeah. she does. well she does >> yeah. she does. well she does a chocolate version and she also does traditional does the traditional sherry. i found the sherry a bit intense. >> well, does put fruit in >> well, does she put fruit in the jelly? >> mum let know she'll be >> mum let me know she'll be watching shouldn't. watching because she shouldn't. >> fruit? can't >> fruit or fruit? trifle can't be doing with. >> well. no fruit in there. >> well. so no fruit in there. >> well. so no fruit in there. >> no sherry. >> no sherry. >> let me know. she'll be
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>> mum let me know. she'll be texting now. i'll let you know. >> on. jean. joan. joan >> come on. jean. joan. joan >> this always happens. you're always naming it wrong. >> i get it wrong every time i try and think what sounds best. and i always make the mistake. >> yeah, it sounds nice. northern, isn't it? jean? >> jean, it's probably it >> jean, it's probably what it is. yeah yeah. >> anyway, those views >> anyway, do keep those views coming let us know your coming in. let us know your trifle recipes. gbnews.com/yoursay. >> or no fruit, that's the >> fruit or no fruit, that's the big thing. >> well, sherry or no sherry, i actually prefer no sherry in the trifle. but fruit. no trifle. yeah, but no fruit. no tart the cherries. anyway tart with the cherries. anyway day from. >> talk about breakfast >> shall we talk about breakfast puddings breakfast? >> shall we talk about breakfast pucyes. s breakfast? >> shall we talk about breakfast pucyes. very 3reakfast? >> shall we talk about breakfast pucyes. very good.3st? >> shall we talk about breakfast pucyes. very good. yes >> yes. very good. yes >> yes. very good. yes >> whilst it's been the breakfast of choice years, breakfast of choice for years, fry falling out of fry ups may be falling out of fashion. fry ups may be falling out of fasireportedly ridiculous. >> reportedly ridiculous. >> reportedly ridiculous. >> to 34 year olds. >> 25% of 18 to 34 year olds. well actually, you fall into that, don't you? anyway, rarely have a trifle, a fry up or a trifle. actually. probably. >> probably 1 trifle. actually. probably. >> probably1 in trifle. actually. probably. >> probably 1 in 10 trifle. actually. probably. >> probably1 in 10 have never >> probably 1 in 10 have never even tried the classic breakfast. i find that hard to believe . believe. >> so is the english fry up toast . earlier, we spoke to toast. earlier, we spoke to
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celebrity chef theo michaels, who loves a fry up, and nutritionist rhiannon lambert, who the english breakfast who thinks the english breakfast is outdated . is outdated. >> there's another generation coming through of people that perhaps want a less traditional take on it, so they still love their fried eggs. they still perhaps love the traditional baked beans on the plate, some nice toast, or my grandparents actually used to have fried bread, you know, like fried toast in the morning as well. but nowadays people are more about halloumi in the about their halloumi in the morning their avocado. morning or their avocado. >> come on, rhiannon, come >> oh come on, rhiannon, come on. on. >> on. >> you'll be, you'll be, you'll be saying avocado on toast next. i mean, it's nonsense. >> well, i think avocado is a bit expensive for most people, to be honest. at the moment. bit expensive for most people, to be honest. at the moment . and to be honest. at the moment. and it is imported. but i do think there's different ways of mixing up your breakfast in the morning. i know with kids. up your breakfast in the mo theo. i know with kids. up your breakfast in the mo theo. i knovon,th kids. up your breakfast in the mo theo. i knovon, ii kids. up your breakfast in the mo theo. i knovon, i can kids. up your breakfast in the mo theo. i knovon, i can see,. up your breakfast in the mo theo. i knovon, i can see, i >> theo. come on, i can see, i can see you're very frustrated by this. >> am sacrilegious. >> i am it's sacrilegious. i mean, i think the great british fry up, right? this is woven. this is a thread of our culture. it's something we've grown up
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with and i love nothing more than a greasy spoon fry up. and i want eggs, bacon, beans, bubble and squeak, black pudding. whole works. i pudding. the whole works. i don't want it. i don't i don't want fat free. i don't want skimmed don't want skimmed milk. i don't want avocado. a full works fry avocado. i want a full works fry up.and avocado. i want a full works fry up. and i'm devastated. that was it. 10% of that age group have never had a fry up. i never had. >> they don't know what they're missing. >> they don't. my heart bleeds for them. i implore you, go out today to your local cafe. order the biggest fry up and it'll change your life. >> i mean, the point is , >> i mean, the point is, rihanna. i mean, it wouldn't be good h rihanna. i mean, it wouldn't be good if you were doing it good for us if you were doing it seven days a week. but if you do it then. there's it every now and then. there's nothing that, is there? >> no, exactly. it's totally fine. you know, got people fine. you know, i've got people that a fry up. my husband that love a fry up. my husband loves a fry up. you know, you've got to embrace you like. got to embrace what you like. there's research that if you don't allow yourself enjoy things, you're more likely to overeat it's overeat on them anyway. so it's all moderation, isn't it? all about moderation, isn't it? and know that's such a boring and i know that's such a boring word people, but i'm anti word to people, but i'm not anti fry up i'm not pro fry up.
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fry up and i'm not pro fry up. i'm just whatever you want to do, your life, make do, enjoy your life, but make sure you've a good balance sure you've got a good balance of the items that are great. >> so rihanna, sorry to interrupt. clarify >> so rihanna, sorry to interyou're clarify >> so rihanna, sorry to interyou're so clarify >> so rihanna, sorry to interyou're so you're:larify >> so rihanna, sorry to interyou're so you're saying do that you're so you're saying do not a fry up every single not eat a fry up every single morning? yeah. >> absolutely. probably not >> no, absolutely. probably not the breakfast to start the the best breakfast to start the day for heart health. but day for your heart health. but to health is to be honest, your health is your you know. your next thing you know. >> going to be saying >> you're going to be saying don't. don't include the bloody mary either. >> well, actually, a good >> well, actually, that's a good source for some people source of iron for some people as well. a bit. i mean, as well. a little bit. i mean, with the alcohol and probably not best idea single not the best idea every single morning. but, you know, it really what you're really depends what you're looking your well looking at in your dish as well every morning. and you've got to do right for look, do what's right for you. look, my job as a nutritionist. so i'm going sit and say, look, going to sit here and say, look, there some items a fry up there are some items on a fry up which do contain nutritional benefits. are others benefits. there are others that are of saturated fat and are full of saturated fat and not for time health. not great for long time health. but totally fine. but once a week, totally fine. >> i mean, theo, you're a >> yeah. i mean, theo, you're a chef, aren't you? so are you of the school of thought that you can a traditional fry up, can make a traditional fry up, you it in a healthier you can do it in a healthier way? is that something that you'd support, do think
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way? is that something that you'should)rt, do think way? is that something that you'should go do think way? is that something that you'should go fordo think way? is that something that you'should go for your think you should go for your traditional up everything traditional fry up everything in one oil, lard, lard, one pan lots of oil, lard, lard, lard, all right, so, know, lard, all right, so, you know, i'm bit of both, if i'm i'm a bit of both, if i'm honest. >> i guess i'm sort of by by breakfast, i think, well, i guess it is, is for me, guess where it is, is for me, there's a, there is a general tradition of a greasy spoon fry up and we and i remember going to our local there was like a trucker's grease, a trucker's cafe with a grease, a proper greasy spoon, but at the same something same time, there is something nice about a more, let's call it a eloquent fry up, where a more eloquent fry up, where maybe you know, the maybe it's just, you know, the quality ingredients are quality of the ingredients are slightly fat slightly elevated. maybe the fat isn't quite slippery over the isn't quite as slippery over the plate, there is place for plate, so there is a place for it, for sure. but i think the fry up itself as a concept, i mean, this is this is sort of unique. well, let's know what you think about that. is the british fry toast. >> do you know the thing i mean? god love her. she's a nutritionist. and so it's just the fact she says in that rihanna was saying, would you believe my. my grandparents even used to fry bread? it was like fried toast. >> yeah, it's a thing .
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>> yeah, it's a thing. >> yeah, it's a thing. >> it's a thing, rhiannon. maybe not in your house, but certainly in ours. yeah. my mother's been in ours. yeah. my mother's been in touch. >> oh, good. i knew she would be calling joan. >> morning. joan actually called herself jane here. >> , she's adding the confusion. >> so jane here. her name is jane. anyway my favourite jane. anyway say, my favourite chide . my favourite trifle is chide. my favourite trifle is sherry trifle with lashings of sherry. >> and you said she had raspberries. >> you said she had a bit of an issue with the sherry. >> well, yeah. my other speciality is a chocolate trifle with black cherries. i can recommend both. highly. yeah well, very highly. >> is recommending >> she says she is recommending her own . her own. >> yeah, she. >> yeah, she. >> yeah, she does recommend her own. chocolate trifle own. and the chocolate trifle has something in it. that's has something in it. but that's also a dish. >> what's that? kirsch. >> what's that? that's kirsch. >> what's that? that's kirsch. >> right. >> that's spelled that right. >> that's spelled that right. >> that? >> what is that? >> what is that? >> like a cherry brandy >> it's like a cherry brandy sort of thing. >> there you go. i told you there'd be alcohol it. there'd be alcohol in it. >> so. well, yeah, i heard >> yeah. so. well, yeah, i heard that take your fancy. that those take your fancy. >> well, i'll tell you >> yeah, well, i'll tell you what i do. well, i like a black forest gateaux with cherries and chocolate. very nice. >> go, mum, you know
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>> are they? go, mum, you know what's order next weekend what's on the order next weekend if i'm in. >> oh, i thought you meant for me. >> we'll em- >> we'll get joan. >> we'll get joan. >> yeah. you. we'll get it >> yeah. for you. we'll get it on order. >> all right. >> all right. >> oh, can do yeah. >> oh, can we do that? yeah. joan been joan, joan you've been told joan, joan, jane, whatever you joan, jean or jane, whatever you want call yourself today. want to call yourself today. excellent. right. saturday morning is next. and, morning live is up next. and, boy, have got a treat for you boy, have we got a treat for you today, because only is ben boy, have we got a treat for you todaystephanie only is ben boy, have we got a treat for you todaystephanie takyi1ly is ben boy, have we got a treat for you todaystephanie takyi is is ben boy, have we got a treat for you todaystephanie takyi is on ben boy, have we got a treat for you todaystephanie takyi is on the team. >> good morning. good morning to you . you. >> what combo. >> what a combo. >> what a combo. >> i know i know i'm >> i know i don't know if i'm going to be ben's sidekick or the the show. i'm i'm the star of the show. i'm i'm trying to work out. course. trying to work out. of course. thank you. nothing but the star, darling. >> what have got coming up >> what have you got coming up on show? youtube? on the show? youtube? >> some really interesting >> yeah. some really interesting stuff. marathon, stuff. we've got a marathon, man. a 60 year old who's doing his marathon. he did his his 120th marathon. he did his first one in london in 1981, and he reckons the secret to longevity for 60 year olds is blackcurrant extract. >> oh, really? >> oh, really? >> yeah. very strange. normally it's like cigarettes or like a sherry a day or something. but he reckons it's blackcurrant, he said the supplement has allowed him maintain peak
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him to maintain peak performance. on him to maintain peak performance. oh yeah. amongst younger rivals. so yeah. there we go. >> what do you think the secret is there then the sugar. >> i don't know what it is, but apparently it helps the muscles when you're doing enduring races, so it'd be interesting to find out what he's got to say. that good. well, you that would be good. well, you managed clock up 280,000 managed to clock up 280,000 miles in his lifetime. wow. with the of marathons that the amount of marathons that he's we need to go he's done, maybe we need to go and some blackcurrant and get some blackcurrant extract for the show. >> that would nice. >> that would be nice. >> that would be nice. >> actually, might become >> actually, i might become hooked it eventually. yeah hooked on it eventually. yeah but we've our greatest but also, we've got our greatest briton, mark wynter. he briton, who is mark wynter. he is a male breast cancer survivor , and he'll be talking why it's important for men check their important for men to check their breasts. and he'll be walking a fashion to promote fashion show to promote awareness for it. >> something we never think about. >> you know, we never talk about that. we always that. i think we always talk about checking their about women checking their boobs. never think, boobs. but we never think, actually, breast cancer does affect well. and think affect men as well. and i think we all have breast tissue, don't we? >> yeah. >> yeah. >> and i think a lot of men just don't feel comfortable with talking it. so i think talking about it. so i think it's quite brave he's
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it's quite brave that he's coming on speak his coming on to speak about his own journey through it. >> also, i'm sure if >> and also, i'm not sure if you've seen this story this morning. there's rise morning. there's a rise of botox, which male botox, botox, which is male botox, botox, which is male botox, botox, men who get botox. right. so yeah, we're going to be getting into that. is it getting stuck into that. is it acceptable ? male grooming is acceptable? male grooming is a gateway to further things. >> i think once you start doing botox, then you're going to start moving on other things. botox, then you're going to sthinkioving on other things. botox, then you're going to sthink it'ing on other things. botox, then you're going to sthink it becomes other things. botox, then you're going to sthink it becomes ather things. botox, then you're going to sthink it becomes a bitr things. i think it becomes a bit obsessive a and obsessive after a while, and then you start trying to find different tweakments, but each their whatever people their own. whatever people want to to make them feel happy, to do to make them feel happy, why as as safe. why not? as long as it's safe. are on then? are you hooked on it then? >> me? need to look >> me? i don't need to look about 12. he still got views. >> he's still got youth on his side. >> i've got my sauna in my garden. i drink green juice garden. i drink my green juice in the morning and that's about it. oh. >> gm- p-l elm-- p to the idea >> would you be open to the idea of if you needed it? of botox if you needed it? >> yeah, definitely. >> yeah, definitely. >> i, if and when i'd start >> if i, if and when i'd start looking a bit more haggard. i mean, since kids, i'm starting to downhill a bit, yeah, to go downhill a bit, but yeah, i'm open to it. >> no problem with it >> i have no problem with it because, yeah, do the you because, yeah, you do the you can the eyes, can't you, and
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can do the eyes, can't you, and all that sort of thing. >> and but i'm really expressive. so i'll be scared that angry and that i'm like looking angry and then just, just look. yeah. then i'll just, just look. yeah. >> to be frozen. >> i don't want to be frozen. >> i don't want to be frozen. >> no. just gets a bit too much sometimes. >> i think it's quite nice though. i think for men to take pride their appearance and. pride in their appearance and. >> i mean, they want to >> yeah, i mean, if they want to do it to a certain extent, i think you still want to keep that, know, little bit of that, you know, a little bit of rough readiness about you. rough and readiness about you. >> well. well, you've got >> oh, well. well, you've got plenty of that. >> you've got plenty. >> you've got plenty. >> i sounds like a great show. youtube packed. >> yeah, packed. >> yeah, packed. >> botox. why >> i'm not allowed botox. why no, been banned. no, no, it's been banned. if i was ever to think about having botox. >> i've been told. >> i've been told. no, >> i've been told. no, you're not doing it. no, i don't think you need it. >> don't need it. >> you don't need it. >> you don't need it. >> oh, am wrinkly and >> oh, i am looking wrinkly and a like. but just like, a bit like. but it's just like, well, getting older, so what well, i'm getting older, so what can you do? >> and ageing >> yeah. and you're ageing gracefully oh am i, yeah. i said to today hair and skin. >> it's lovely isn't it. >> it's lovely isn't it. >> yeah. you're a silver hunk stephen. oh. >> oh stephen. oh. >> on silver. >> on silver. >> what sim-- >> stephanie. what have you on more often i love it. >> yes. >> oh yes. >> oh yes. >> doing this every week >> you're doing this every week now. yeah, right. we'll see you
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two bit later on, still two a little bit later on, still to we've got fake or facts to come. we've got fake or facts with eborn and it's a with andrew eborn and it's a taylor yes. >> you're yes. >> no. you're pulling my leg. >> no. you're pulling my leg. >> i'm not, i can't wait. >> no i'm not, i can't wait. >> that's
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>> i love it, and i'll tell you why is because the new album was out yesterday. it's done 200 million streams on spotify. can you that already 24 you believe that already 24 hours, which broken all sorts of records and swiftly she's got her eras tour coming, which is $1 billion tour. she's she's going out with her famous footballer, the american footballer, the american football so she didn't football stuff. so she didn't use the time. now ellie's use all the time. now ellie's told really told me that she's really chomping at this one because she's a bit a swiftie. yeah, she's a bit of a swiftie. yeah, so off we then. we've got the so off we go then. we've got the graphics first thing, then, graphics the first thing, then, mother played def leppard mother andrea played def leppard non—stop she was pregnant non—stop when she was pregnant with taylor swift. def leppard non—stop. i know you do. i know you do. i thought i'd give you go. >> yeah, i think that's a fact, a fact. >> are you both saying facts? oh, yes. okay. i'm going to give you both point. is good. you both a point. it is good. and they are. and in fact, and there they are. and in fact, they performed and they performed together. and this of them. and this is a picture of them. and do know what they sang for do you know what they sang for an bonus that's the an extra bonus point, that's the fearless album she's singing. there is. there she is. >> amazing. a >> it's amazing. so it's a glorious wonderful glorious stuff. so a wonderful picture taylor picture of them. okay. taylor swift named afterjames swift is named afterjames taylor, keeping musical
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taylor, keeping the musical theme, one her parent's theme, one of her parent's favourite taylor, favourite artists, james taylor, one of the parents favourite artists. fact, fake or fake? fake. >> come on, i'll say fact. >> you're gonna say fact. well, ellie is absolutely right. it is named afterjames ellie is absolutely right. it is named after james taylor. ellie is absolutely right. it is named afterjames taylor. and in fact, we've got a picture of them on stage together. they performed fire and rain at, get a bonus point if you know where that is. do you know where that is, nashville , madison square is, nashville, madison square garden. >> that's not bad. win them all. >> you can't win them all. you didn't win that one, what's interesting. okay. taylor swift then a christmas tree then grew up on a christmas tree farm in reading, pennsylvania. that's true. and her job. her that's true. and herjob. her job. do you know what her job was ? was? >> no. i get an option. >> no. i get an option. >> well, you might do the picking praying mantis or making sure the needles weren't too sharp, making sure the needles weren't too sharp . okay, weren't too sharp. okay, stephen, firstly, is it true? did you grow up on a christmas tree farm? well, yes, because ellie knew that . and the job was ellie knew that. and the job was it making the know, praying, picking up praying mantises ?
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picking up praying mantises? well, i could tell you that ellie absolutely wrong ellie is absolutely wrong because stephen got it right. he beat a swiftie. well beat her on a swiftie. well done. was. she had to take done. it was. she had to take off the little praying mantis things and got off the little praying mantis trlittle and got off the little praying mantis trlittle of and got off the little praying mantis trlittle of lshowing got a little clip of her showing this a little girl, this is her as a little girl, and inspired this particular and it inspired this particular song. here's the clip. >> we haven't it . >> oh, we haven't got it. >> oh, we haven't got it. okay. that's okay. >> what it's like. >> you know what it's like. >> you know what it's like. >> know what it's like. well >> we know what it's like. well i got the next clip. i hope we got the next clip. this is her very recently. this year grammys. did she year at the grammys. did she combine politics with a wonderful, glamorous thing on the declare that the red carpet to declare that trump won the democrats and the cheated we are. cheated banner there? we are. she's got her. this is her. this is the it which went viral. >> all oh, that's fake, that's fake. >> she's a democrat . >> she's a democrat. >> she's a democrat. >> are you both saying it's fake? yeah. >> it's fake. >> it's fake. >> okay, i'll give you both . it >> okay, i'll give you both. it is. shows how realistic is. but it shows how realistic this thing is. i'm talking this thing is. and i'm talking about up to the about the lead up to the elections what's going to elections is what's going to happen. more happen. we're going to get more of and of these deep fake things. and actually though for actually you're right though for actually you're right though for a she normally a bonus. then she normally didn't get involved with politics dixie politics because the dixie chicks are. you remember. oh yeah. what yeah. yeah. remember what happened they out happened to them. they spoke out against invasion of
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against bush and the invasion of iraq got trashed. they iraq and they got trashed. they basically the audience. basically divided the audience. now, taylor swift's movie, now, in taylor swift's movie, they get they talk about don't get involved with politics. but she did involved politics for did get involved in politics for a when did she get a bonus point. when did she get involved in politics? what involved in politics? and what did of you last did she say? either of you last election, okay. was it about the abortion well it was i'm abortion issue? well it was i'm going to give you a it was the midterms thing, and she talked about this person being in about this person being trump in about this person being trump in a the particular republican was >> the particular republican was turning around was turning around and she was against rights. was against gay rights. she was against gay rights. she was against and and so against women and so on and so forth. taylor swift basically forth. so taylor swift basically came said, don't came out and said, i don't normally get involved in politics, going this politics, but i'm going to this time that's what happened. time and that's what happened. so against that so it was against that particular so donald particular republican. so donald trump, basically turned trump, he basically turned around i like around and said, well, i like taylor 25% less today, taylor swift 25% less today, which always glorious , which is always glorious, wonderful stuff then. okay, have a look at this one then. yeah, very quick one. the dress that she the carpet, however, she wore on the carpet, however, was an easter egg, an easter egg for the release of the first single from the new album. is that fake or fact ? that fake or fact? >> i want to say fact. >> i want to say fact. >> fact? >> fact?
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>> stephen. all right, i'll go fake. >> you're going to go fake. well, ellie gets it right. it was an easter egg. i think i've got a picture here of the first video. we were talking about this one as well. this is the first they've got. first video which they've got. do we have that? no, no, it doesn't matter the first do we have that? no, no, it doesn okay. :ter the first do we have that? no, no, it doesnokay.:ter one the first do we have that? no, no, it doesnokay.:ter one you'llrst them. >> oh, no. we're time. >> oh, no. we're out of time. >> out of time. i can >> we're out of time. i can declare that actually. surprise, surprise. week. surprise. it's a draw this week. you both did incredibly. >> your math wrong. >> you've done your math wrong. there there you go. it was. >> it was ellie's. this week's winner. congratulations, >> it was ellie's. this week's winbrilliantjratulations, >> it was ellie's. this week's win brilliant stuff. itions, >> it was ellie's. this week's win brilliant stuff. andrew. >> brilliant stuff. andrew. thank you. we'll see you tomorrow. and stephanie are tomorrow. ben and stephanie are up next. >> with a brighter outlook. with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. on. gb news. >> good morning. welcome to your latest gb news weather update. this weekend will be dry for many of us. the best of the sunshine will be in the west, particularly through today and across eastern areas. actually, there's to be quite cool there's going to be quite a cool feeling this feeling breeze with this northeasterly coming northeasterly wind coming off the that bring the north sea. that will bring some cloud to eastern areas through elsewhere, through this morning. elsewhere, though, dry and
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though, it should stay dry and bright. as head bright. however, as we head towards , i think more towards lunchtime, i think more in the way of cloud will bubble up across western areas. parts of into the midlands as of wales into the midlands as well, should stay dry well, but it should stay dry through the day and it through much of the day and it will fairly pleasant the will feel fairly pleasant in the sunshine this evening sunshine later on this evening we'll start to see parts of scotland, rain arrive we'll start to see parts of scythisid, rain arrive we'll start to see parts of scythisid, of rain arrive we'll start to see parts of scythisid, of rain rain arrive we'll start to see parts of scythisid, of rain pushes'ive we'll start to see parts of scythisid, of rain pushes in; as this area of rain pushes in from north. that bring from the north. that will bring thicker to areas of thicker cloud to many areas of scotland well. and that scotland as well. and that area of going sink of cloud is going to sink southwards through this evening, covering northern covering many areas of northern england, likely england, and that will likely sit of the sit across parts of the midlands, possibly into the southeast. by sunday morning. this rain will likely this drizzly rain will likely affect northern areas of england, southern scotland as well through sunday morning as well. but it's going to be fairly light. but where the skies clear, going to skies stay clear, it's going to be chilly night. tonight be another chilly night. tonight we a touch of frost we could see a touch of frost developing again as i said, developing once again as i said, there a bit of uncertainty in there is a bit of uncertainty in how this cloud will how widespread this cloud will be. it could cover more southeastern areas, but as the day , i think there'll day progresses, i think there'll be better chance of brighter spells developing, particularly across the south and the northwest, it's actually northwest, where it's actually going the warmest through
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going to be the warmest through the of weekend. the rest of the weekend. however, central however, for this central slither, it will likely stay fairly and a little bit fairly dull and a little bit cooler for much of the day, with a of some drizzly rain. a chance of some drizzly rain. have great bye—bye. have a great day! bye—bye. >> that feeling inside from >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers, sponsors of weather on
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gb news. >> very good morning to you. i'm ben leo, alongside steph takyi. and this is saturday morning live. >> it's so great to have your company this morning. we have an action packed show for you. we do indeed. >> all of the day's top stories with olympian and broadcaster kriss apprentice kriss akabusi and apprentice winner marnie swindells. >> the labour party have shared new analysis today showing that a thousand shoplifting offences take place every day, equating to almost one theft per minute. we'll be discussing these stats with a former police officer and the director of a charity for
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those facing poverty, and there's some bad blood wink wink amongst concert goers as more than £1 million could already have been lost in the uk to fraudsters pretending to offer taylor swift tickets are the scammers going to scam, scam, scam? and don't forget we want to hear from you . we would love to hear from you. we would love to hear what you think. send your views and post your comments by visiting gb news. common d'orsay. >> scam scam scam, by the way, is that is that a hint to taylor swift? yes it is. >> players are gonna play, play, play. are you a taylor fan, ben? >> look, i don't hate >> no, look, i don't hate her. it's completely my bag. it's just completely not my bag. just like beyonce, i'm more. i'm more punk rock . just like beyonce, i'm more. i'm more punk rock. bit more sort of like punk rock. bit of blink182. more sort of like punk rock. bit of ldon'ti2. more sort of like punk rock. bit of [don't worry. the end of >> don't worry. by the end of this i will convert this show, i will convert you into swiftie. into a swiftie. >> right, we'll what >> all right, we'll see what happens. speaking, happens. we'll also be speaking, by to a man who by this by the way, to a man who by this time tomorrow running time tomorrow will be running his marathon. reckons .
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