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phillip will the phillip blonde. that will be the clash my monologue at four. clash in my monologue at four. sir keir starmer today said we must flinch at flying the must not flinch at flying the saint george's flag. he declared that labour is the patriotic party. do you believe him.7 at party. do you believe him? at five it's my outside guest. she's a former olympic and world champion who had an extraordinary career in bmx racing and track and cycling. then coming up in an hour. do you think mark rowley should resign ? we've seen police resign? we've seen police officers bearing rainbow flags wearing rainbow laces and with the met issuing apologies , the met issuing apologies, suella braverman says enough is enough. what do you think? but before we get started, let's get your latest news headlines . your latest news headlines. >> good afternoon. it's 3:01. i'm cameron walker here in the gb newsroom. british jewish leaders will meet the metropolitan police commissioner later this week after accusing the force of a series of high

profile errors . sir mark rowley profile errors. sir mark rowley is facing calls to quit over his handung is facing calls to quit over his handling of pro—palestinian protests, with the former home secretary, suella braverman suggesting he's emboldened anti—semite seats. the board of depufies anti—semite seats. the board of deputies of british jews says mistakes have had a devastating effect on the previously high level of trust held in the police. the campaign against anti—semitism is also calling for sir mark to resign or be sacked, after its chief executive was described as openly jewish by an officer, cabinet minister claire cantineau says the government is addressing the incident . addressing the incident. >> the home secretary has made clear that what happened was unacceptable. i understand there's going to be a meeting in there's going to be a meeting in the coming days. i don't know what conversation is going to take place there. think we take place there. i think we should how that conversation should see how that conversation goes. ultimately what's goes. but ultimately what's really is that people really important is that people in community feel in the jewish community feel safe . they know that we're on safe. they know that we're on their that what we want their side and that what we want to is equal in this to see is equal policing in this country, also to make sure country, and also to make sure that their

that they can go about their normal lives. that's i want normal lives. that's what i want to see. >> a decision by the us to approve £49 billion in aid for ukraine has been welcomed by the uk, with the foreign secretary describing it as a vital step forward. after months of wrangling , american politicians wrangling, american politicians ended a deadlock, agreeing to provide a package which will also help replenish weapons and munitions . president zelenskyy munitions. president zelenskyy says the move will keep the war from expanding and will save thousands of lives. it now heads to the senate , which is expected to the senate, which is expected to the senate, which is expected to pass the bill in the next few days. to pass the bill in the next few days . 20 million people were days. 20 million people were plagued by anti—social behaviour and vandalism last year , and vandalism last year, according to new figures. shadow home secretary yvette cooper says a labour government would crack down on yobs. she promised the party would get tough to restore community safety. former police officer oliver lawrence says more policy is not the answer. >> more legislation and more policy, more procedure isn't going to fix it. i would argue that we've got more than enough.

with more than 32 pieces of legislation already there. legislation already out there. what need is proper what we need is proper enforcement and proper execution of the legislation by our justice system to make sure that we have penalties for people that commit these crimes in our communities . communities. >> the victims of last weekend's knife attack in sydney have been remembered as a candlelight vigil on bondi beach . vigil on bondi beach. >> abc embrace how sweet the sound. >> six people were killed by joel cauchi in a shopping centre last saturday. the attacker was shot dead by police . australia's shot dead by police. australia's prime minister, anthony albanese, said may those we have lost rest in eternal peace forever in our hearts . wales is forever in our hearts. wales is set to change a controversial law on new speed limits. half a million people signed a petition raising concerns about the 20mph zones, saying some routes should

not have been included. the government says the new limits will remain in place around schools, hospitals and built up areas, but has admitted its guidance needs to be corrected. the world's transport minister is expected to announce the changes on tuesday . a record changes on tuesday. a record number of people are running the london marathon. supporters are lining the streets to cheer the 50,000 people taking part as they attempt to complete the 26.2 mile route they started just after 10:00 this morning, the events raising millions of pounds for charities, professional athletes , kicks off professional athletes, kicks off the event with kenyan alexander more news winning the race in two hours and four minutes. in the women's category, olympic champion perez jepchirchir set a new world record, also kenyan. she finished in two hours, 16 minutes and 16 seconds. she says she was surprised by her achievement, feeling grateful. >> i'm so happy, happy. unbelievable. i was not

expecting that. it's mean a lot for me because last year i was expecting to win, but unfortunately i didn't do it. i was tired but i was happy too. but, this year i'm so, so happy. >> for the latest story, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen, or go to the gb news. com slash alerts. now let's return to . nana. >> hello. good afternoon. this is gb news on tv online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua if you've just tuned in. it's just coming up to seven minutes after 3:00. the metropolitan police, god help us. i remember when i was young, the police in general were revered standards were high. you even had to be over a certain height before being considered for a job, which would be seen as discrimination nowadays, which it is. but it was a mark of just how

scrupulous they were in who they recruited to become a police officer was a huge honour, and the they were rightly would rightly scrutinise people before they enabled them. fast forward to now, and last week it was reported some 18,000 officers were recruited without even a face to face interview. this was post pandemic , so there was no post pandemic, so there was no excuse for it. and we wonder why we've ended up where we are now. scared, battered forces hindered by admin diversity and inclusion. a net zero. they come beanng inclusion. a net zero. they come bearing rainbow flags wearing rainbow laces, dancing at events. they should be policing and taking the knee, showing up in their droves for crimes of hurting feelings. but are nowhere to be seen when true crime is occurring . all we need crime is occurring. all we need now are police to drive electric cars to make them completely useless. although i shouldn't say that out loud because somebody , somewhere in a fully somebody, somewhere in a fully staffed net zero department is probably planning it as we speak

. we've already got electric ambulances, so it wouldn't surprise me . the metropolitan surprise me. the metropolitan police have seen failure after failure. too many to list in recruitment . remember wayne recruitment. remember wayne couzens, a serving met officer who was nicknamed the rapist before killing sarah everard? how on earth did he even get the job, let alone keep it ? the job, let alone keep it? the misogyny, sexism, racism which has been uncovered in various reports, although i suspect much of it has been there for some time. and the sad fact many officers don't appear to know the law or are doing a very bad job at interpreting it . it's job at interpreting it. it's a shame really. the most recent incidents have been the met's handung incidents have been the met's handling of the pro—palestine marches. here they are allowing arguing with a woman who's afraid of a man at a march wielding a swastika . we like to wielding a swastika. we like to walk with me because i can point these people out to you. >> and again, i was told when i asked that a swastika was not necessarily anti—semitic or

disruptive public order. disruptive to public order. >> seem right me i >> everything needs to be taken in doesn't it ? in context, doesn't it? >> it's a context of why. >> but it's a context of why. why it? why does it? >> the swastika need >> why does the swastika need context? >> what are you confused >> what exactly are you confused about ? about? >> what confused how you >> what confused is how you don't context? a don't in what context? a swastika not anti—semitic. swastika is not anti—semitic. this want know. this is what i want to know. because again, suppose to some because again, i suppose to some i know how everybody would i don't know how everybody would feel about that sign that has happened. >> i cannot i'm here working for the branch commander, and it is not my responsibility . not my responsibility. unfortunately, my role to walk down the road . down the road. >> they arrested a man over an allegation of assault whilst he held a sign pointing out that hamas are terrorists. it's and then they let him go later as he was arrested. and again here they are threatening a jewish man with arrest . you know, the man with arrest. you know, the people here now supporting out of this area. >> go about your business. go where you like freely, or if you choose to remain here because

you are causing a breach of these . if i remain here, you these. if i remain here, you were arrested because your presence was antagonising a large group of people that we can't deal with. all of them. if they attack you, what they did was your presence, antagonism , was your presence, antagonism, and let's not forget how they appear to turn a blind to eye the anti—semitic projection on big ben. >> jewish people in london are hostages in their own homes on the weekends . but it's not just the weekends. but it's not just the weekends. but it's not just the palestine marches. the way they've handled environmental groups like just stop oil has been .i groups like just stop oil has been . i feel sorry for been woeful. i feel sorry for the officers, many of whom are passionate people committed to the the leadership is the role, but the leadership is rudderless. time for mark rudderless. it's time for mark rowley go. he's useless . rowley to go. he's useless. right. so before we get stuck into the debates over the next houn into the debates over the next hour, let me introduce you to my classes. joining me going head to head in a clash of minds, former advisor to jeremy corbyn, james also former

james schneider, and also former adviser cameron philip adviser to david cameron philip boland. what else is boland. here's what else is coming in this hour. former coming up in this hour. former home secretary suella braverman is leading calls today for metropolitan police chief mark rowley to quit over what she describes as a litany of failures in policing pro—palestine rallies. are you proud to be english? that's the question. labour leader sir keir starmer says that labour must not flinch from flying the saint george's flag, and has declared that his party is the patriotic party. now there are also growing talks within westminster of a general election as early as june. but does that give rishi sunak enough time to try to persuade voters to give his party one more chance? drivers in london could face the reality of paying by the mile. this comes as the london mayor aims to hit net zero targets. but how would you feel about paying per mile? and may a major? london university has also broken equality law as they are reportedly banning or barring staff from promotion unless they

support its pro—trans diversity policy . as ever, tell me what policy. as ever, tell me what you think of everything we're discussing. get in touch @gbnews .com forward slash your say or tweet me @gbnews . right. so tweet me @gbnews. right. so let's welcome again to my clashes. former adviser to david cameron phillip blonde and also former adviser to jeremy corbyn james schneider right. so let's get started james i'm going to start with you. what do you think you've seen the litany of failures from the metropolitan police in particular, and even in such a short space of time that mark rowley has been at the head of it? is it time for him to just relinquish his job? >> think the problems with the >> i think the problems with the met much deeper than just met go much deeper than just who's of it. i'm who's in charge of it. i'm completely about completely agnostic about whether he should go or not, i don't know, but i think the met itself needs to change much more. perfectly possible more. it's perfectly possible that could someone that he could go and someone could come and exactly the could come in, and exactly the same happening. and same things are happening. and as of course i don't as you say, of course i don't

have exactly the same understanding of all of the events as you laid out in your monologue. but the broad thrust that there are huge problems in the i think is the in the met, i think is undeniable . and if you think undeniable. and if you think that and i think that, then that's, you know, that's probably case. that's, you know, that's pro we ly case. that's, you know, that's pro we actually se. that's, you know, that's pro we actually agree, god, >> we actually agree, my god, coming from coming from different, different directions. >> of course, think some of >> of course, i think some of the things that we have seen , the things that we have seen, you know, gideon falter, being told that he had to leave because he's visibly jewish is abhorrent. and that is mean, abhorrent. and that is i mean, that's just terrible, terrible that's just a terrible, terrible , terrible of policing. , terrible breach of policing. likewise, swastika you likewise, the swastika you showed, which seems like that's a lot of that is to do with training. and basically it seems like, know, the two police like, you know, the two police officers in question there, they seem don't really seem like they just don't really they don't really know what they're about. they they don't really know what they're been about. they they don't really know what they're been told)ut. they they don't really know what they're been told anything about haven't been told anything about the subject or they weren't. i mean, is it , it the subject or they weren't. i mean, is it, it is mean, i it is it, it is extremely worrying. but there i think the question should be, well how is the training operate? how does that function rather than, you know, the chief, know, whatever the chief, you know, whatever the

commissioner, not commissioner, he's probably not terribly involved in. >> so what's the point of him then? he can't be held to account when things go wrong. >> as i say, i'm perfectly fine for held account. for him to be held to account. but won't that alone but that alone won't that alone won't change things. the problems, rightly said in problems, as you rightly said in your monologue, in report after report, shown huge report, have shown huge structural failings within the met. so unless someone is going to say he should go and so and so should come in with this programme of reform which will make these very major structural changes. make these very major structural changes . i'm not terribly changes. i'm not terribly interested in it, me, it interested in it, and to me, it seems the reason why it's being pushed for political pushed is, is for a political purpose rather than for a policing purpose, which is suella braverman doesn't like the pro—palestinian expression. yeah. which i, which doesn't to me doesn't seem to be, you know, how that's been policed in general terms, of course, we've seen two extremely terrible examples that you showed earlier. but in general terms, that's really not very high up on the list of mistakes that the

met has been making over recent years. >> you don't think that's high up on the list? phillip blonde. well where to begin? >> i think all agree the mass >> i think we all agree the mass is an ongoing disaster. and kind of mark rowley was appointed precisely to get grips with that disaster , and he hasn't and disaster, and he hasn't and i agree with suella braverman. i think he's , he's taken the think he's, he's taken the failures of the met to a new level and expanded the spectrum of said failure . i think how the of said failure. i think how the marches have been policed have been unbelievably bad. i mean, you could spend half an hour on it in your voxpop on on the errors, sort of wilfully interpreting the call to jihad as a call to yoga , islamic yoga, as a call to yoga, islamic yoga, summer camps, it's half educated, half understood. botrd that, understandings of the law. but he's presiding over that. and, you know , i agree the met and, you know, i agree the met

was dysfunctional before his his appointment. it hired a lot of violent , racist police officers , violent, racist police officers, many of whom have have committed crimes. and that will roll on. but i think part of the problem is that his response to, to that has been reactive. he hasn't recognised that what we're seeing is two tier policing , the seeing is two tier policing, the marginalisation of a minority in london in the making, safe of a of a whole community in london, which is a failure . now, you which is a failure. now, you might chart that failure to the morality . you might chart it to, morality. you might chart it to, the head of the met. the government does have emergency powers where it can recover control of the police . and i control of the police. and i think the level of failure within the met, the inertia of sadiq khan vis a vis, the jewish community is really astonishing,

isn't it? it's astonishing. and it's sad because i quite i thought, when i mean, in a number of ways, he's a horrible figure because he's also been attacked from within his own community for various stances. he's taken . but i think this is he's taken. but i think this is a genuine failure as well. and i think he's failed policing. policing has failed london and mark rowley has failed. and i think we need to tackle those in turn, radically and the government needs to act well. >> let's see what you think at home. get in touch now. metropolitan politan police spokesperson said we are aware of this video and fully acknowledge the worry that it has caused, not only to those featured, but also everyone who watches it and will review the circumstances. we have always said that we recognise the conflict between israel and hamas continues issue hamas continues to be an issue of concern for many londoners, and this includes the regular protests and marches in central london. everyone has the right to travel throughout the capital in safety . well, i mean, that

in safety. well, i mean, that would be the case, but if you're jewish, i don't think you would dare go in there whilst those marches. >> and it's not it's not true. i go on the marches, i'm jewish. there are lots jewish people there are lots of jewish people on marches, but it's not on those marches, but it's not a lot of the reason why people, a lot of the reason why people, a lot of the reason why people excuse that it's a excuse me, it's not that it's a one it's that one off, it's that it's literally weekend. one off, it's that it's literally there weekend. one off, it's that it's literally there are akend. one off, it's that it's literally there are many jewish >> and there are many jewish people know won't go into people i know who won't go into central london. >> there things. the >> so there are two things. the reason the protests reason why the protests are every because every weekend is because the destruction continues destruction of gaza continues every day, part of that's every day, and part of that's okay. part of the reason and okay. and part of the reason and part of the to protest. yes, of course, that's correct. and part of and then part of the reason protests, the no go zone for jewish they're not a no jewish people. they're not a no go zone. jewish people. they're not a no go they not many jewish >> they are not many jewish people. sorry with you there. >> many you are if you were >> many if you are if you were told they are a no go sorry. >> no please no go zone for people the people who don't take the ideological of the marchers ideological line of the marchers take and the police , they're take and the police, they're saying that the gentleman wearing a yarmulke , being wearing a yarmulke, being openly, invisibly jewish and the

it's a bit like black lives matter when you had the black lives matter protests, people on the left and others said, we've got to understand the black community on their own terms. and what they say. what we have now wilful denial of the now is wilful denial of the jewish community. that's speaking as a majority that we feel desperately unsafe in london. that's what they're saying. and should take them saying. and we should take them on own account. on their own account. >> their account, you say, >> on their account, you say, are you jewish? jewish and are you jewish? i am jewish and i'm but there are many i'm unsafe. but there are many who do, majority because who do, and the majority because because we are told constantly from this channel and from all newspapers and so on and so forth, that these are frightening places for jewish people. >> i can tell you, having been on many of marches with on many of these marches with many jewish they are not many jewish people, they are not frightening for jewish frightening at all for jewish people. they not. people. they are. they are not. we told they are. and we are told that they are. and of if you're told that of course, if you're told that central london no go zone central london is a no go zone for that frightening. for you, that is frightening. so you home. you will stay in your home. that's it actually that's not because it actually is. saw listen, this is. listen you saw listen, this is. listen you saw listen, this is the old saying that if you're saying that, why did the saying that, then why did the metropolitan officer metropolitan police officer feel that to protect

that he needed to protect the jewish man wearing the. jewish man who was wearing the. >> think he was. >> i don't think he was. >> i don't think he was. >> protecting he >> he wasn't protecting him. he was going to was saying he was going to arrest was he was saying arrest him. he was he was saying he was to arrest him. he was going to arrest him. that's protecting him. that's not protecting him. >> to do that, to >> he was saying to do that, to remove him from the situation because was dangerous because he said it was dangerous for you listen the for him. if you listen to the reasoning and that's the reasoning, is absurd. >> all think that >> we all think that the way the police officer just said, police officer you've just said, no, doesn't. the way no, it doesn't. the way the police operated was police officer operated was terrible also entirely terrible and also entirely wrong. have been the wrong. i have been on the marches people are also wrong. i have been on the marchejewish.)eople are also visibly jewish. >> is false consciousness . >> this is false consciousness. claim again that the people who feel unsafe shouldn't feel unsafe, but they do feel unsafe and it is an unsafe environment and it is an unsafe environment and we should believe them and we should hold them out to account. >> i think we should, but listen, what do you think? but let's move to keep let's move on to this. keep your thoughts coming. but keir starmer labour thoughts coming. but keir stthe er labour thoughts coming. but keir stthe patriotic labour thoughts coming. but keir stthe patriotic party, labour thoughts coming. but keir stthe patriotic party, now labour is the patriotic party, now claiming that since tories claiming that since the tories have power, our pride in have been in power, our pride in our identity has become our national identity has become more contentious . he more and more contentious. he added that labour must not flinch flying the flag of added that labour must not flinch georgeig the flag of added that labour must not flinch george aheadflag of added that labour must not flinch george ahead ofg of added that labour must not flinch george ahead of saint saint george ahead of saint george's day on tuesday, declaring tories have, declaring that the tories have, quote, trashed the economy,

hammered holders hammered the mortgage holders here. what's that got to do with being british, weakened the union and neglected forces, union and neglected our forces, and lost any right and therefore had lost any right to themselves a patriotic to call themselves a patriotic party. however, believe party. however, do you believe that labour are the party of patriots? well, joining me now is yorkshire and humber is our yorkshire and humber reporter, anna riley . anna. so reporter, anna riley. anna. so talk to me . talk to me. >> good afternoon. anna. yes. well it's been a very patriotic day here in morley in west yorkshire. the town has actually been described as one of northern england's most patriotic towns and they've been celebrating saint george's day today ahead of the big day on tuesday, there's been a procession of 1500 people that marched through the town, including cadets, including brownies , cub scouts, young brownies, cub scouts, young people from sports groups and they all came here to the rugby club, where there's been a lot of events going on throughout the day. i spoke to alex giles

earlier. he's a member of the royal society for saint george. this is what he had to say. >> i come from a mixed heritage background. >> i'm half english and i'm half indonesian and filipino . so it's indonesian and filipino. so it's for me, it's representing all my cultures, really. and being british and being english is something i'm incredibly proud of. we've got a great history. we've got when you look at england as a whole, we've accomplished so much for such a small island, and it's why shouldn't you be of shouldn't you be proud of it? and, and you wear the saint george's flag or the union jack. and, and you wear the saint geo shouldag or the union jack. and, and you wear the saint geo should wearthe union jack. and, and you wear the saint geo should wear thatjnion jack. and, and you wear the saint geo should wear that with jack. and, and you wear the saint geo should wear that with pride. and, and you wear the saint geo always wear that with pride. and, and you wear the saint geo always rememberrvith pride. and always remember those who have and also have fallen for us. and also fought our freedoms . fought for our freedoms. >> so a lot of pride there from alex for saint george, i also spoke to andrea jenkins. she's the mp for morley and outwood. i spoke to her earlier just about the idea of what's keir starmer had said that the conservatives weren't a patriotic party anymore, and that was something

that she profoundly disagreed with. but it's been a brilliant turnout today, a great event and definitely a lot of pride for england here in morley. >> thank you so much, anna. lovely to talk to you, sir. anna riley. so what do you think? do you think our labour, the party of patriotism. you're with me. i'm nana akua this is gb news onune i'm nana akua this is gb news online and on digital radio. coming up, i'm asking is pay per mile? is that scheme is it the way forward? next, though, i'm asking , are way forward? next, though, i'm asking, are labour a party of patriotism

? good 7 good afternoon. if you just joined us. welcome on board. it's just coming up to 27 minutes after 3:00. i'm nana akua. this is gb news. well, just before the break, we were discussing whether labour were the party of patriotism after sir keir starmer declared that his patriotic party. now his is the patriotic party. now claiming that since the conservatives have been in power, our pride our

power, our pride and our national identity has become more contentious. so more and more contentious. so joining me for the clash, former adviser to david cameron, phillip blonde , also former phillip blonde, also former adviser jeremy corbyn, james adviser to jeremy corbyn, james schneider, , i'm going to schneider, philip, i'm going to start with you, labour. they're claiming party of patriotism. >> well, i think on one hand it's be welcomed. i think it's to be welcomed. i think i think keir starmer is right to do that. he's right to challenge those of on the left, who those sort of on the left, who just couldn't be called patriotic in any way , shape or patriotic in any way, shape or form and are quite hostile to britain, to britain's history. but i think it's to be welcomed that the, the labour leader has made this, this point. >> but do you believe him, though, because he says a lot of things. i mean, he's a you turner. >> we know that, i do i do believe him, and i do believe labour can be a patriotic party. you can't deny that blow. but only recently patriotic during his time. i don't think we want to deny our our political enemies the grounds of consensus that make us a country. what i think he's got . so. so i welcome

think he's got. so. so i welcome that. and i fully accept that many people on the left are deeply patriotic. but there are also a large number on the left who are not. and what i fear is, is that is that he will have a dreadful time controlling those people and the forces of fracture that he talks about. i mean, he's right about the conservatives undermining defence. they've done appalling since george osborne. they haven't supported , they've haven't supported, they've haemorrhaged our armed forces. were i would challenge that remark. is that the left has been the site for the fragmentation of the country, solidarity through identity politics, racial politics, sexual politics. >> so that's why i asked you to leave him. and also in their literature, they were worried that the flag, the flag of saint george, would upset people and upset minorities. i've got to come to james on that. they do you do you believe keir starmer saying now he saying that they're now and he does now end, i think

does say now at the end, i think , neither party is particularly patriotic based on what they're putting forward. >> and i think saying that we're patriotic because we fly a flag, something that everybody does. and every almost everybody supports and etc. supports england and etc, etc. or if you're scottish, scotland or if you're scottish, scotland or so on, it's a bit, it's a bit patronising. patriotic is supporting the people of the country, which i think he's right to say. the tories haven't done. but then if you were being really patriotic, you wouldn't say, well, you know, we're happy to flag. of course to fly the flag. of course you're happy a flag . you're happy to find a flag. it's country. of course you it's our country. of course you are. are you to are. but what are you going to do the things which do to improve the things which have trashed have been undermined and trashed over the last years? like over the last 14 years? like what going to do about what are you going to do about water? what going to do water? what are you going to do about public services and about our public services and our what you our infrastructure? what are you going armed forces our infrastructure? what are you goin�*for armed forces our infrastructure? what are you goin�*for example, armed forces our infrastructure? what are you goin�*for example, arme(isorces pay, for example, which is louder actions speak louder than words. actions speak louder than words. actions speak louder i think louder than words. and i think a lot of this it's like it's lot of this is it's like it's a dressed up little thing because a bit of the will go, oh, a bit of the media will go, oh, that's because that's interesting because he said or said he likes the flag and or maybe left doesn't like the maybe the left doesn't like the flag , just is not flag or whatever, just is not really out reality. and

really borne out by reality. and really, be judging really, we should be judging people by, by what they, they do. example, he do. for example, you know, he says well, that says now, well, one thing that you you could have you could do is you could have bank holidays for all our bank holidays for all of our national saint's more national saint's days for more bank holidays, and could use bank holidays, and we could use those celebrate the those days to celebrate the cultural, scientific, artistic, sporting, intellectual achievements that the that people of this country have had that would be that would be a good thing to show that we are , good thing to show that we are, you know, that we're patriotic in a in a positive, progressive, etc. type of way. but yeah, as you say, actions speak louder than words. >> he's not offering any of that though, is he? that's not what he's saying. he's just saying that because he so. that we are because he says so. and couple things and there's a couple of things that they done. but there that they have done. but there are in his party have are many in his party who have demonstrated one are many in his party who have dethe|strated one are many in his party who have dethe thingsi one are many in his party who have dethe things is one are many in his party who have dethe things is he one are many in his party who have dethe things is he actually one of the things is he actually i mean, wasn't he didn't he ask for referendum? i would mean, wasn't he didn't he ask for that referendum? i would mean, wasn't he didn't he ask for that the eferendum? i would mean, wasn't he didn't he ask for that the ultimaten? i would mean, wasn't he didn't he ask for that the ultimate in i would say that the ultimate in patriotism actually wanting patriotism was actually wanting to control our to take control of our own borders control of our borders and take control of our own borders and take control of our oerook, just repeat what >> look, i i'll just repeat what i i welcome the labour i said. i welcome the labour leader patriotic. i leader being patriotic. i personally him, but personally believe him, but a substantial proportion of his population. sorry of his party,

rather have repudiated the british legacy and i think are genuinely hostile to the idea of britishness. and i wish him good luck in containing them. >> well, you see the pro—palestine lobby or he has a faction of his party that are very pro—palestine. he's got so many different elements. >> so what's anti—british about opposing arms being used in war crimes against another people ? crimes against another people? >> no, we're talking about factions within a party. no, i know, but what's not but what's you're presenting if you're presenting that as if that's no difficult for being patriotic. >> what's unpatriotic about not wanting british bombs and british bullets to be used to kill other people, i suppose. >> well, that's not really it, is it? i suppose it's not supporting the government who is supporting british interests. and think the and that's, i don't think the government supporting government are supporting british from british interests. far from people would disagree with you on i think most people in the >> i think most people in the country, them, country, if you polled them, does not think the government's supporting british interests. patriotism the government. >> ultimately, though, ultimately, though, that is ultimately, though, if that is what where what the government, where the government what the government, where the gov majority of country the majority of the country feel that way we should

that that is the way we should be going, then there are factions party that factions within his party that do feel that way. but hold do not feel that way. but hold on, that doesn't make any sense. >> sense. >> patriotism does make sense. no dont >> patriotism does make sense. no don't understand it. just >> i don't understand it. just because patriotism. >> patriotism is not doing what the that's not the government wants. that's not what government is doing. what the government is doing. >> british public want. >> what the british public want. the public want the british public do not want arms to israel. arms sales to israel. >> english don't want >> the english people don't want answers. if you look at answers. again, if you look at the well, you look at the polls, well, if you look at the polls, well, if you look at the where have you seen that? >> where have seen that? the >> where have you seen that? the british not british people are not supporting the war in israel? >> at most polls >> look at the most recent polls from for example. we can from yougov, for example. we can pull up in the advert pull them up in the advert break. right. well why don't you >> all right. well why don't you find before make those find them before you make those statements? don't statements? because you don't actually figures. actually have those figures. >> those. i mean, i do >> i do have those. i mean, i do have those figures. that's accurate. recent accurate. the most recent poll shows majority shows that the majority of people, i think the people, i think, i think off the top head, it was 54. and top of my head, it was 54. and then we'll check in a moment. then we'll check it in a moment. >> british public support, >> the british public support, britain standing up british britain standing up for british interests . exactly. interests. exactly. overwhelmingly. they support interests. exactly. overw they ngly. they support interests. exactly. overw they support they support interests. exactly. overw they support actionssupport them. they support actions against terrorists and against states hostile to us, of which

hamas are both . hamas are both. >> they have it. is that good enough for you? no. right. this is the clash. >> it's not actually wrong. >> it's not actually wrong. >> it's not wrong. >> it's not wrong. >> he's absolutely hamas. aren't terrorists and hamas aren't hostile. hostile to british interests . that is actually wrong. >> that that what i said. >> that that isn't what i said. i think what's hostile to british that is british interest, that is i think what is hostile to think what what is hostile to british interests is, is arming a that commissions a state that commissions breaches of international law. i think that contrary to think that is contrary to british who is british interests who is breaching international law? it's it's it's hamas israel, it's breaching law. and breaching international law. and we on them breach we on them hamas breach international we don't international law, but we don't arm do we? we don't arm arm them, do we? we don't arm them. don't them our them. we don't give them our bullets. don't give them our bullets. we don't give them our technology. don't them technology. we don't give them our do to israel. our arms, but we do to israel. >> arm those who are >> we arm those who are resisting terrorism. hamas are a terrorist organisation who engaged unprecedented engaged in an unprecedented atrocity against civilians, and they deserve to be expunged from they deserve to be expunged from the earth. >> okay, so that's the final word. what do you think? gb news. com forward slash your essay coming up, we'll be speaking to the host of the politics people podcast, paul duddridge, to get latest on

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i >> -- >> hello. good afternoon. if you've just joined in. where have you been? it's coming up to 37 minutes after 3:00. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. keep all your thoughts coming as well. gb news. com forward slash your say i'd love to hear what you think but there are growing talks within westminster of a general election as early as june. but does that give rishi sunak enough time to try to persuade voters to give his party just one more chance? autumn has always seemed like the aim of the tories, with the hope by this stage interest rates would continue to fall. flights to

rwanda would finally take off and tax announcements could be made in the autumn statement. so what do you think? is it finally time for rishi to call that general election in the summer? do you care? all right, let's welcome mike lashes, welcome again to mike lashes, former adviser to david cameron. phillip blonde, former phillip blonde, also former adviser corbyn, james adviser to jeremy corbyn, james schneider, schneider. is adviser to jeremy corbyn, james s(timeier, schneider. is adviser to jeremy corbyn, james s(time to. schneider. is adviser to jeremy corbyn, james s(time to call schneider. is adviser to jeremy corbyn, james s(time to call forschneider. is adviser to jeremy corbyn, james s(time to call for a:hneider. is adviser to jeremy corbyn, james s(time to call for a general is it time to call for a general election? does he need to do it now? >> should he? i mean, he doesn't have to do it now. he can do it until january. i'm. i'm not that untiljanuary. i'm. i'm not that bothered. lose bothered. they're going to lose the election regardless. i think, oh even if they think, you know. oh even if they get three things you get those three things that you put it's copium i mean put in it's copium i mean they i don't think there will be a summer i've always summer election. i've always thought take it almost thought they will take it almost the possible because the last possible date, because that's that that's what governments that think do, think they're going to lose do, because always hope because they can always hope that will be jam that maybe there will be jam tomorrow. something tomorrow. maybe something will come starmer will come up, maybe keir starmer will do something so atrocious that people they people will decide that they would rather do, like eat cake at party. but i think it's at a party. but i think it's i but to be honest, i don't think it. i don't think it really matters one way the other. matters one way or the other. the tories going to get

the tories are going to get thrown out because most people are than were 14 are worse off than they were 14 years and the country in years ago, and the country is in a worse state. >> do you think he should >> so do you think he should hang to the last minute, hang on then to the last minute, or should i? >> not his adviser. it's not >> i'm not his adviser. it's not for me to to, say i think he will have election will have an election in the autumn they'll autumn and i think they'll get voted a way. voted out in a big way. >> all right. phillip blonde. well i mean, there's talk now that the greatest likelihood of a no confidence is after a vote of no confidence is after the may elections. >> and , he's always used the >> and, he's always used the idea he'll go for an election now to try to control his party. but the febrile state of the conservative party, the appalling level of support that that he has as a prime minister the catastrophic nature of the defeat on some measures, it's below 100 seats, which then suggests there could be 2 or 3 elections, even if it goes well from recovering, to form a party

of government. again, i think we may be in a situation of a no confidence vote after the locals . then, i think he just will have had enough. and the rumours abound about he just is quite fragile. and we'll just throw his hand in. then we'll have another leadership election and the hope is that a coherent set of policies , which we haven't of policies, which we haven't had, we've had kind of second or third order things like stop smoking and study maths, which which doesn't enthuse the, the masses, if we have a first order election where people can make choices in primary colours, i think the chance are under a leader with a strong vision of lessening the scale of defeat. is real, and i think enough mps might be willing now, finally, to take that chance. >> so you're saying that potentially somebody should take take the helm at some point

before if there is a general election? yes. to minimise the defeat . but who would, who would defeat. but who would, who would in their right mind would want to take that chalice? >> because i think, i think that any leader who who narrowed the margin of the defeat got over 150 seats would be in power for the next five years, in terms of leader of the opposition, what they're arguing for now is where we fight from, after after this defeat and what sort of conservatism do we have? the liberal conservatism that had been followed by osborne and cameron has been an unprecedented failure. it has left more economically left people more economically insecure, more culturally marginalised , and the country marginalised, and the country fragmented. conservatism needs to rediscover itself in something other than the same old liberal offer. and that's what i hope will be on offer. if there is indeed a leadership election. >> well, listen, coming up, my monologue on sir keir starmer,

he declared that labour is a patriotic party. do you believe him? but next, i'm asking is paper mile. is that scheme the way forward

? welcome 7 welcome back. it's just coming up to 45 minutes after 3:00. this is gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua now. just some breaking news to bring you about mark menzies , who has now mark menzies, who has now announced that he will not stand in the next election. announcing in the next election. announcing in a statement he said it has been an enormous privilege representing the people of field since 2010, but due to the pressures on myself and my elderly mother, i've decided to resign from the conservative party and will not stand at the forthcoming general election . forthcoming general election. this has been a very difficult week for me, and i request that my family's privacy is respected. well, let's welcome to my classes and get their

views. former adviser to david cameron phillip blonde, also a former jeremy former adviser to jeremy corbyn. james blonde james schneider philip blonde he's decided to down after he's decided to step down after the mess. >> what a mess, what a travesty, what an embarrassment , what what an embarrassment, what a disaster. i mean, i don't know how else to say it. >> bad people. well, bad people, you know? >> i mean, it's it'll be a line in british politics, forgetting £5,000 from now until the future. i think 6500. >> it went out to poor, poor quality of selection, increasingly socially dysfunctional , people selected dysfunctional, people selected as mps with very peculiar proclivities and let you know. and then they engage in this . and then they engage in this. well, of course he's denied everything. >> hasn't he said there's no after another one of his colleagues. okay. either one, another one of his colleagues shared details , of people's shared details, of people's numbers, phone numbers.

>> william wragg that was william . william. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> some again. peculiar sexual establishments. >> i mean, my god, i think this was something to do with some something that he'd sent to somebody else, but i don't know. i mean, is this, james? i mean, what is this, james? >> i mean, philip's right. both at it's extremely embarrassing and have a really low and that we have a really low grade quality of mps. of course, there some that are . there are some that are. >> you're going to include angela rayner in that. >> include angela >> i wouldn't include angela rayner no. but of rayner in that, no. but of course there are some who there are, some there are some are, some who are there are some who very good, but have who are very good, but we have far large of mps far too large a number of mps that kind of that are that have kind of narcissistic without any qualities to go with it and basically shouldn't be allowed to run the offices or manage staff and get themselves in the kind of terrible trouble, i mean, predicaments, should we call it? there there are just so many of them. there's the one that was doing the gambling thing that's had to go. there's a by—election. was one a by—election. there was the one that supposedly that was looking up, supposedly looking it looking up tractors. and it wasn't tractors, power wasn't tractors, no power chamber. mean, an chamber. i mean, it's an

embarrassing list. >> it's embarrassing. but let's be labour have had their be honest, labour have had their their fair share i their fair share as well. i mean, i think this brings it up to now doesn't it. to 19 now doesn't it. >> 18 or 19 don't select for talent. they select for compliance. true. and they don't like talented people. they like average people who who who they can control, who will be on, compliant in the face of the whips. and that is the predominant reason why there are some superb mps. predominant reason why there are some superb mps . we have very some superb mps. we have very poor quality mps. >> you're not wrong . i'm really >> you're not wrong. i'm really not wrong. but let's move on to this one. drivers in london could face the reality of paying by the mile following london mayor khan's revealing mayor sadiq khan's revealing documents, aims to hit net documents, it aims to hit net zero targets, which are ambitious plans to decarbonise asian. how many times have we heard that word, where where it said that only to be possible by charging drivers reportedly , the charging drivers reportedly, the london mayor has previously been adamant that he ruled out. adamant that he has ruled out. he has ruled out introducing pay per mile schemes. but how do you

feel about pay per mile? and let's be honest here, we know that it's in london, it will that if it's in london, it will probably to the rest of probably go out to the rest of the country. what do you think, james? >> we already have pay per mile. it's in petrol tax. i don't have a with that principle a problem with that principle at all. a all. i think in fact, that's a good and should good thing and we should be decarbonising. i do have a problem. what do you mean? >> it's in petrol tanks. do you mean when we tax? mean when we pay tax? >> sorry. petrol tax, the >> sorry. in petrol tax, the more the you more you drive, the more you drive, in. you drive, the more you pay in. you are petrol. are paying more petrol. >> more. >> you need more. >> you need more. >> you need more. >> you are paying. you are paying. >> but that's just buying the petrol. that's not specifically. yeah, i think that's good >> and i think that's a good thing. should be thing. and i and we should be decarbonising. find idea decarbonising. i find the idea that government going to that the government is going to track everywhere that car track everywhere that your car goes weird and dystopian, goes a bit weird and dystopian, and i don't that at all. so and i don't like that at all. so i wouldn't like to have you i wouldn't like to have a, you know, gps tracking of all know, a gps tracking of all cars. government always cars. so the government always knows are. i'm knows where you are. i'm perfectly people to be perfectly happy for people to be taxed on how much they're driving, which is what we already have, because have already have, because we have a petrol tax. if your car consumes more , you pay more per more petrol, you pay more per mile. >> philip yeah, i support

>> philip lund yeah, i support the green agenda. i support decarbonisation , i think it's decarbonisation, i think it's desperately needed. but what we've done is we made ordinary working class people predominantly vie, pay the burden of that transformation . burden of that transformation. we've managed to make the green agenda and popular by placing the burden , far too much on the the burden, far too much on the lives of ordinary people. you can't simply tax cars where there's no decent public transport. you can't simply vie, you've now got a situation where it's so expensive to travel on the railways . it's a third the railways. it's a third cheaper to travel by yourself in, in the car. and the answer isn't to increase the cost of car travel because it just penalises people who need it. we've got to. we've got to reverse this penalty on the common person that the green agenda means green. green. the green approach , like carbon green approach, like carbon

tariffs for instance, could price in a whole new industrial revolution that would benefit our ordinary people. but turning it into compulsion and taxation is a very, very bad idea. like the drive for electric, for electric vehicles, there are more polluting because the weight and the fracture of the tyres. >> well, the companies actually elsewhere. >> so they're more expensive, they're more expensive . they're more expensive. >> the carbon is elsewhere. so we just don't we don't count it in this country imperative. >> we make this agenda popular and the thrust against making it unpopular is one of the worst policy own goals i've seen. so i'm against pay per mile for that reason. >> well, it seems that those with the shortest, smallest shoulders are paying the most and they are probably the least polluting. because if you think about it, those really rich people going on their bombardier jets, like a lot of them preaching about climate change, are most are actually using the most amount carbon . so, you know, amount of carbon. so, you know, i get it. but i actually don't really agree with the agenda. i

don't believe in the full sort of scientific reality of it. i think that there are other factors, and i think there are other of considering and other ways of considering and other ways of considering and other dealing it. other ways of dealing with it. right. let's move on. a major right. so let's move on. a major london may have london university may have broken law by barring broken equality law by barring staff unless staff from promotion, unless they pro trans they support its pro trans diversity policy. a barrister has found that king's college is potentially discriminatory against those who believe there are only two sexes, and that trans people are not the gender they identify as. so let me welcome again to my clashes former adviser to david cameron, philip blonde was a former adviser to jeremy corbyn. james schneider, philip blonde . schneider, philip blonde. >> yeah, i've read the article and this seems again very dystopian, and does seem to be in contravention of the equalities act where being gender critical, is allowed and respected. and what we find is a lot of these institutions have gone along with stonewall that produced fake legal advice that

wasn't, lawful . and although wasn't, lawful. and although that puts them on a they put them on a rewarding scale that they attempt to follow , although they attempt to follow, although they attempt to follow, although they would argue that that, that that's their sort of policies andifs that's their sort of policies and it's not really about legality. >> e“ m @- e do you think, so >> james, what do you think, so it's a may because we don't know, you know, one, one barrister, i think, who's representing one side who has put forward a legal, a legal judgement, and it's hard to know precisely what the kcl is putting forward. but i think we should draw quite a big distinction between basic academic freedom and more , where academic freedom and more, where you're looking after students or you're looking after students or you're ahead of year or , you you're ahead of year or, you know, you're in charge of a tutor group or something like that, where one of those things i can see you should have being maximally so that maximally inclusive so that students comfortable, students feel comfortable, blah, blah, . and then the other blah, blah. and then the other one, maximise one, you want to maximise academic freedom does academic freedom and that does include views, critical include people's views, critical views you don't agree with. views that you don't agree with. now, i don't agree with gender

critical views, but i don't think that a maths professor shouldn't get a promotion. as a maths professor, do i think that they maybe shouldn't be teaching, if they are , you know, teaching, if they are, you know, offensive about it, treating trans students or whatever , then trans students or whatever, then yes, that's a separate thing. but their basic academic position should be separated out from the pastoral one. >> right. well, listen, a king's college spokesperson we're college spokesperson said we're proud that we've proud of the work that we've done to build an inclusive atmosphere on campus in collaboration with our staff, networks and eddie , that dreaded networks and eddie, that dreaded word experts, academic staff applying for promotion choose how they provide evidence to support their individual applications against a range of specific criteria to, in line with employment and higher education regulations . we education regulations. we regularly review all university policies to ensure compliance with changing laws. well, that's what they say. what do you think? you're with me? i'm nana. akua. this is gb news on tv, onune akua. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. still to come , the great british

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behaviour that falls below the standards expected of mps . standards expected of mps. british jewish leaders will meet the metropolitan police commissioner later this week, after accusing the force of a series of high profile errors sir mark rowley is facing calls to quit over his handling of pro—palestinian protests , with pro—palestinian protests, with the former home secretary, suella braverman suggesting he's emboldened anti—semites. the board of deputies of british jews says mistakes have a devastating effect on the previously high level of trust held in the police . the campaign held in the police. the campaign against anti—semitism is also calling for sir mark to resign or be sacked after its chief executive was described as openly jewish by an officer cabinet minister claire coutinho says the government is addressing the incident. >> the home secretary has made clear that what happened was unacceptable. i understand there's going to be a meeting in there's going to be a meeting in the coming days. i don't know what conversation is going to take place there. i think we should see how that conversation goes. ultimately what's

goes. but ultimately what's really that people goes. but ultimately what's really jewish that people goes. but ultimately what's really jewish communityeople goes. but ultimately what's really jewish community feele in the jewish community feel safe . they know that we're on safe. they know that we're on their side and that what we want to is policing in this to see is equal policing in this country, also to make sure country, and also to make sure that about their that they can go about their normal that's what i want normal lives. that's what i want to see. >> a decision by the us to approve £49 billion in aid for ukraine has been welcomed by the uk, with the foreign secretary describing it as a vital step forward. after months of wrangling , american politicians wrangling, american politicians ended a deadlock, agreeing to provide a package which will also help replenish weapons and munitions . also help replenish weapons and munitions. us president zelenskyy says the move will keep the war from expanding and will save thousands of lives. it now heads to the senate, which is expected to pass the bill in the next few days. 20 million people were plagued by anti—social behaviour and vandalism last year, according to new figures . shadow home to new figures. shadow home secretary yvette cooper says a labour government would crack down on yobs. she promised the party would get tough to restore community safety. former police

officer oliver lawrence says more policy isn't the answer. >> more legislation, more policy , more procedure isn't going to fix it. i would argue that we've got more than enough. with more than 32 pieces of legislation already out there. what we need is proper enforcement and proper execution of the legislation by our justice execution of the legislation by ourjustice system to make sure that we have penalties for people that commit these crimes in our communities. >> in other news, thousands of people have been gathering for a vigil on bondi beach to remember those who died in a stabbing attack in sydney. six people be kc praise how sweet the sound . kc praise how sweet the sound. six people were killed by joel cauchi in a shopping centre last saturday. the attacker was shot dead by police. australia's prime minister anthony albanese, said may those we have lost rest

in eternal peace forever in our hearts . a record 50,000 people hearts. a record 50,000 people are running the london marathon. many have now crossed the finishing line after completing the 26.2 mile route. supporters are still out and about though, cheering those on who were still making their way through the city streets. they started just after 10 am, the event raising millions of pounds for charities . professional athletes kicked off the event with kenyan alexander munyao winning the race in two hours and four minutes. in the women's category, olympic champion peres jepchirchir set a new world record. also, kenyan finished in two hours, 16 minutes and 16 seconds. she says she was surprised by her achievement but feeling grateful. >> i'm so happy, happy . >> i'm so happy, happy. unbelievable. i was not expecting that. it's mean a lot for me because last year i was expecting to win, but unfortunately i didn't do it. i was tired, but i was happy too.

but but, this year i'm so, so happy. >> and for the latest story, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. com slash alerts. now it's back to . nana. >> good afternoon. you're with me. i'm nana akua. this is gb news. it'sjust me. i'm nana akua. this is gb news. it's just coming me. i'm nana akua. this is gb news. it'sjust coming up me. i'm nana akua. this is gb news. it's just coming up to six minutes after 4:00. we're live on tv , online and on digital on tv, online and on digital radio. sir keir starmer said that we must not flinch at flying the saint george's flag. he declared that labour is the patriotic party now , what is was patriotic party now, what is was was this the same labour party whose mps recently criticised the use of saint george's flag on the party's campaign materials because they were concerned it would put off ethnic voters? a flag won't put people off. it's your policies

were interested in. that's what may may not put people off, may or may not put people off, as ethnic voters are that as if ethnic voters are that simple. and shallow. but labour's form for lacking labour's got form for lacking patriotism . remember good old patriotism. remember good old jeremy corbyn. he was criticised for not singing the national anthem at the battle of britain memorial service . emily memorial service. emily thornberry and her snobby attitude flying attitude towards people flying the flag of saint george. remember that. and even though in 2022, sir keir starmer insisted that the national anthem be sung at party conference, he seemed quite happy to hand our sovereignty back to the uk. he wanted a second referendum. the bbc and national broadcaster excuse me, dropped the national anthem. so we now play every morning here on gb news. and how many times have we heard the desire to drop rule britannia from the last night of the proms? and you only need to look at big sporting brands like daring to brands like nike daring to manipulate , redefine and manipulate, redefine and recolour our flag to suit their own ends. what they did to the england flag on the new kit was in my view, nothing short of

vandalism. on tuesday it's saint george's day. that's april the 24th, and i think it's about time we stop talking ourselves down and celebrate this great nation. after all, every other part of the united kingdom proudly celebrate their day. the welsh fly their flag of saint david and are not afraid to be patriotic. the irish with saint patrick's day, which is a national holiday and you always know about it because it's been etched into the psyche. the 17th of march irish pubs here in england paint the town green, which is actually my favourite colour . the scottish are truly colour. the scottish are truly patriotic, with saint andrew's day having lost a referendum only yesterday. there were fresh calls for independence, their love of their nation and self—governance is clear. but here in england we've lost our identity and being called a patriot is a dirty word. excuse me? it's like being called a racist . instead of talking our racist. instead of talking our country up, we seem to talk ourselves down. there was a time

when the flag of saint george and the union jack were commandeered by far right extremist groups who would fly it as banner. but these it as their banner. but these days long behind us. we have days are long behind us. we have reclaimed it. our flag is a symbol of our national identity, andifs symbol of our national identity, and it's time to make england great again . so before we get great again. so before we get stuck into debates, here's what else is coming up today for the great british debate this hour. i'm asking, is it time for the uk to build an iron dome type thing? the prime has thing? the prime minister has been urged to bolster government defence spending israel defence spending after israel was by iranian strikes. was attacked by iranian strikes. global the rise global tensions are on the rise and the uk is without an air defence system. so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking is it time for the uk to build an iron dome? then at 450 it's world view. we'll go live to israel and get the latest with uri geller. plus we'll cross over to los angeles with paul and get the paul duddridge and get the latest on trump and biden's uncle, reportedly eaten uncle, who was reportedly eaten by cannibals. i wonder what

that's . or maybe it's that's about. or maybe it's something that joe biden has said, and, well, we'll come to that then at five, it's this week's outside. she is a former olympic and world champion who had career in had an extraordinary career in bmx racing. that's coming up in the next hour. any idea who she might be? me what you what might be? tell me what you what do you think on everything we're discussing? email gbnews.com/yoursay or tweet me @gbnews . all right, let's get @gbnews. all right, let's get started. let's welcome again to my panel, broadcaster and journalist danny kelly and author and broadcaster christine hamilton. right. so i'm going to come to you, christine hamilton first. yes, christine, nice to see you . thank you. what do you see you. thank you. what do you think of this? you know, we are we don't really like when you say april the 24th, i have to do a double thing and think. so what is it? oh, it's saint george's george's day? what is it? oh, it's saint gecabsolutely.ieorge's day? what is it? oh, it's saint gecabsolutely. iorge's day? what is it? oh, it's saint gecabsolutely. i mean,day? what is it? oh, it's saint gecabsolutely. i mean,dithink >> absolutely. i mean, i think the are of their the english are afraid of their patriotism. they're frightened of to think that of it. they seem to think that if you celebrate english patriotism, automatically patriotism, you're automatically

saying know, everything saying that you know, everything was wonderful, slavery was wonderful, that you accept wonderful, etc, that you accept unreservedly. everything that happened english rubbish. happened in english is rubbish. you're proud of your country today and i think there's nothing wrong . by the way, that nothing wrong. by the way, that welsh flag that shown, it welsh flag that was shown, it wasn't flag of saint david, welsh flag that was shown, it wasitt flag of saint david, welsh flag that was shown, it wasit doesn'tg of saint david, welsh flag that was shown, it wasit doesn't matter. nt david, welsh flag that was shown, it wasit doesn't matter. it's�*avid, welsh flag that was shown, it was it doesn't matter. it's the i, but it doesn't matter. it's the flag of saint david was slightly different. want any different. i don't want any welsh to offended welsh viewers to be offended about i proudly about that. no, i proudly normally wearing my normally i mean, i'm wearing my patriotic colours today rather deliberately. >> by the way, what's with the green ? green? >> well, the green is just a contrast . contrast. >> it's the irish, it's the irish, it's the irish. >> oh, dear. you can't win, can you . no, but obviously we've you. no, but obviously we've got, we've got a flagpole at home which was our 25th wedding anniversary from my brother and sister . we fly every sister. and we proudly fly every day. the union flag, this flag, as it were. and then on special days , we fly the welsh flag, the days, we fly the welsh flag, the scottish flag. and when we have people staying from foreign parts, we the american, the parts, we fly the american, the italian , the whatever, i love italian, the whatever, i love flags and think they're flags and i think they're a

wonderful demonstration of patriotism. and i don't think anybody will ever forget you mentioned her. emily thornberry . mentioned her. emily thornberry. oh, sneering at white man varne with his , saint george's flag. with his, saint george's flag. and i think, i hope that comes out during the election. they should never be allowed to forget that. and it's all very well for starmer to jump on the bandwagon now. well for starmer to jump on the bandwait's now. well for starmer to jump on the bandwait's n bit late. >> but it's a bit late. >> but it's a bit late. >> bit if india >> it's a bit late. if india willoughby came for lunch, would you the trans flag him ? you fly the trans flag for him? >> india? i don't think india. willoughby would accept an invitation and one certainly wouldn't be offered all right. >> emily thornberry emily thornberry. >> right. that was ten years ago. >> how time flies. >> how time flies. >> emily thornberry, that was everything. no one forgets. no, of not. of course not. >> encapsulated the >> that encapsulated the sneering approach contempt sneering approach and contempt she . she had for. >> and i'll tell you who she had contempt for working class patriots . patriots. >> that's who she she can't compute everything about this situation . situation. >> there was white transit van >> there was a white transit van on a driveway council on a driveway on a council estate outside some bloke's house. >> i think there was a world cup on. >> so that was why they were

flying the flags. and there were three flags and flying the flags. and there were thre couldn't flags and flying the flags. and there were thre couldn't computelags and flying the flags. and there were thre couldn't compute in|s and flying the flags. and there were thre couldn't compute in her|d she couldn't compute in her islington brain how anyone who potentially vote potentially was going to vote labour stereotypically could be a patriot. and starmer's got a sort reverse this. sort of reverse this. >> he really has. he's got to reverse it. >> there's an association with the far right, but i think you'll there's you'll find there's an association national flags association with national flags with association with national flags witiin every you go to >> in every country you go to spain, far right will fly spain, the far right will fly the we'll fly spanish flag the we'll fly the spanish flag and in spain, people and jim. but in spain, people don't at normal everyday and jim. but in spain, people don't who at normal everyday and jim. but in spain, people don't who flyiormal everyday and jim. but in spain, people don't who fly the|al everyday and jim. but in spain, people don't who fly the nationalday flag. >> the problem with the saint george's flag, in my humble opinion, is that it's a very ugly flag. >> and don't like the flag? >> and you don't like the flag? >> and you don't like the flag? >> i think the union jack, i think really pretty well, think it's really pretty well, a red cross on a white background. >> what's wrong with that? well, red cross on a white background. >just hat's wrong with that? well, red cross on a white background. >just i'm; wrong with that? well, red cross on a white background. >just i'm thinkingvith that? well, red cross on a white background. >just i'm thinking of] that? well, red cross on a white background. >just i'm thinking of a hat? well, red cross on a white background. >just i'm thinking of a nice well, dress. >> if i'm boring, it's dull. >> if i'm boring, it's dull. >> but if have, i'm thinking >> but if i have, i'm thinking of, outfit that. of, like, an outfit with that. so have, i'd have it so i have, like, i'd have it sort of long ways. you have that union jack. sort of long ways. you have that unijerry. :k. >> jerry. >> jerry. >> i've of those. >> i've got one of those. actually. i've got one of those as i i've got one too, but as well. i i've got one too, but i bought it for me. bet you i bought it for me. i bet you i did. you bought it for me, but

it weathers far too easily so it looks on it today. >> i was on it today. >> i was on it today. >> now for a week and it rains. >> now for a week and it rains. >> the english flag looks. it looks and tatty looks tired and tatty and matthew, how dare you, the matthew, how very dare you, the union matthew, how very dare you, the uniwhat do you make of vibrance? >> what do you make of vibrance? what you make of nike? what do you make of nike? doing what then the what they did then to the england strip. then danny, seeing a footie fan, seeing as you're a footie fan, well, it's nike well, first of all, it's nike rather. well, first of all, it's nike ratino say nike, nike. >> no i say nike, nike. >> no i say nike, nike. >> i do okay. >> do i do okay. >> do i do okay. >> i didn't really have a problem with that, because purple, it's almost i think problem with that, because purple, donelmost i think problem with that, because purple, donelmosof i think problem with that, because purple, donelmosof a i think problem with that, because purple, donelmosof a rainbow problem with that, because purpof donelmosof a rainbow problem with that, because purpof honelmosof a rainbow problem with that, because purpof i didn'tlosof a rainbow sort of i didn't really diversity and inclusion flag, you , i'm really ci'oss. >> cross. >> all of this social media spats i don't have a problem with that. spats i don't have a problem witibut that. spats i don't have a problem witibut thenit. spats i don't have a problem witibut then i. spats i don't have a problem witibut then i understand the point. >> but they just protested because represents the because it represents the country . vie. now. country. vie. okay. now. >> people well, what >> and people say, well, what about ukip? >> got purple union >> they've got a purple union jack. yeah, they're not jack. yeah, but they're not representing you representing the country. you know, jack is on the know, the union jack is on the engush and know, the union jack is on the english and a english kit, and that's a representation of the country. >> completely the objections. >> i get your point about the engush >> i get your point about the english flag a boring. english flag being a bit boring. the comes out on top the flag that comes out on top of the pops all over the world is welsh flag. it gets is the welsh flag. it gets best flag, best best flag by a flag, best flag, best flag by a country mile.

>> the union jacks are >> i think the union jacks are remarkable. >> union jack. >> i love the union jack. i think i'm just saying think i love it, i'm just saying it's matter of fact. it's a matter of fact. >> welsh flag comes out on >> the welsh flag comes out on top are a do polls about it. >> it's quite original, isn't it? and if you like, it looks nice and outfits. here am nice and outfits. here i am again just again with clothes, but i just think looks, look think it looks, it does look good and iconic, isn't it? good and it is iconic, isn't it? and it is very, very british. >> you'll british >> you'll see very british wearing stuff. you'll wearing union jack stuff. you'll see french wearing union jack stuff. you'll see i french wearing union jack stuff. you'll see i think french wearing union jack stuff. you'll see i think it's french wearing union jack stuff. you'll see i think it's one french wearing union jack stuff. you'll see i think it's one ofench wearing union jack stuff. you'll see i think it's one of the| kids. i think it's one of the most memorable as well. >> time see the union >> every time i see the union flag, not a jack unless flag, it's not a jack unless it's on a staff. but never it's on a jack staff. but never mind. so stupid. that's mind. i'm so stupid. that's wrong. i know, every time wrong. i know, but every time i see it, it really inspires me. i mean, it was a great woosh of patriotism made iconic worldwide by rolling stones. by the rolling stones. >> would thought, of >> i would have thought, of course, the album covers. >> yeah, but i'm super proud. covers. >> superbut i'm super proud. covers. >> super proud] super proud. covers. >> super proud ofuper proud. covers. >> super proud of beingroud. covers. >> super proud of being english i'm super proud of being english and i'm super proud of the united kingdom, even if our parliament be, parliament seemed to be, oh, god, not about god, let's not talk about british, not english. i'm well, i'm i'm british, i'm i'm english, i'm british, i'm not 100. >> i'm going to be the only person who says, who won't say super instead of very. >> it's contagion and i'm not >> it's a contagion and i'm not catching it. lots of people say

that. >> what's wrong with it? it's an americanism. >> years ago, you wouldn't >> five years ago, you wouldn't have said that. >> peculiar . >> it's just peculiar. >> it's just peculiar. >> lots of people are saying, what saying? what are you saying? >> have. >> is it because i would have. it's yes, yes, it's an americanism. yes, yes, but wouldn't. but you wouldn't. >> wouldn't it >> you wouldn't have said it five years ago. >> i would i used to >> i would have done. i used to live in new jersey. >> i think it came over the last. no, i used to live last. no, no, no, i used to live in new jersey. >> used to in jersey. used >> i used to in jersey. i used to live in jersey. everything was okay, well, was super good. okay, well, look, georgia, was super good. okay, well, look, say georgia, was super good. okay, well, look, say it. georgia, you could say it. >> you saying that, you could say it. >> lady you saying that, you could say it. >> lady on u saying that, you could say it. >> lady on my|ying that, you could say it. >> lady on my right.hat, it. young lady on my right. say it. i said super proud, did i? >> oh, god, this is degenerating. >> listen, start again, >> listen, if we start again, rewind and start again, i don't think i could put with that think i could put up with that again. you've just joined us, again. if you've just joined us, come on board. it's just coming up 4:00. up to 17 minutes after 4:00. this we're live on this is gb news. we're live on tv, and on digital radio. tv, online and on digital radio. don't forget you can download the can the gb news app, or you can watch live on watch us stream the show live on youtube. coming it's youtube. now coming up, it's worldview time. we'll cross live to the host of politics to the host of the politics people podcast, duddridge people podcast, paul duddridge and to and also mr farage uri geller to get on what's going get the latest on what's going on world. but next, on around the world. but next, it's for the british it's time for the great british debate hour. i'm debate this hour. and i'm asking, for the uk to asking, is it time for the uk to build iron dome? i've to

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good afternoon. it's the second 20 minutes after 4:00. this is gb news on tv , online and on gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. now, some of you have been getting in touch with your thoughts. we're talking about keir about patriotism and keir starmer . about patriotism and keir starmer. pat, says about patriotism and keir starmer . pat, says starmer, starmer. pat, says starmer, patriotic with his lot . have you patriotic with his lot. have you forgotten white van man? it makes me want to vomit. he will say. he will do and say anything to get a vote. what pat to get a vote. that's what pat says, says. isn't it says, valerie says. isn't it strange couple of years strange that a couple of years ago , keir starmer had his hands ago, keir starmer had his hands on of jeremy on the shoulder of jeremy corbyn, known britain hater? corbyn, a known britain hater? is backside he won't is there any backside he won't crawl up to get the vote? i'll

just apologise if you're offended, kid. that one was a bit a bit harsh then. bruce says the left relentless campaign against everything british and in particular the english, is all and summed up by all pervading and summed up by emily thornberry that's what you think. your thoughts think. keep your thoughts coming. now it's time for coming. but now it's time for the british this the great british debate this houn is the great british debate this hour. is it time hour. and i'm asking is it time for uk to build an iron for the uk to build an iron dome? well, leader the dome? well, the leader of the house penny morden, house of commons, penny morden, thinks about it that she broke strongly about it that she broke ranks to urge the prime minister to it. last weekend , to consider it. last weekend, iran fired over 300 drones and ballistic missiles into israel, and all but a few were intercepted by the country's iron dome defence system. miss morden said. to those that say about our defence ambitions , we about our defence ambitions, we can't do, shouldn't do or can't afford to do, i say look to israel, a nation a fraction of our size that has staved off an attack from a nation ten times its and it has made a choice. it has made it work. and we may not have its daily reminders of the threats we face, but we have the

same duty to our citizens. well interesting stuff. the recent attack on israel has highlighted to the the importance of to the west the importance of air defence. even a sophisticated system like israel's enough to israel's wasn't enough to intercept the strike completely. our and ramping our friends and foes and ramping up their defence spending. whilst our government has whittled on our armed whittled spending on our armed forces to down 2% of gdp. so for the great british debate this houn the great british debate this hour, i'm asking is it time for the uk to build something like an iron dome? at least when i'm joined now by james schneider, former labour advisor to jeremy corbyn. philip blonde, former adviser cameron , and adviser to david cameron, and tobias ellwood, conservative mp for bournemouth east. bournemouth east and former chairman of the defence select committee. well, i'm going to start with tobias, is penny start with you, tobias, is penny right. i understand that we right. and i understand that we probably wouldn't use an exact same system as an iron dome, but the principle of she's the principle of what she's saying , yes, certainly has. saying, yes, certainly has. >> you described what happened in the middle east will raise concerns as to whether we have such capability . we in such a similar capability. we in the uk, and as you alluded to, we have entered a new era of

insecurity and whoever wins the next general election will need to spend more on defence. the question is how and what? what do we actually need ? what are do we actually need? what are the actual threats that are coming horizon ? and coming over the horizon? and bearin coming over the horizon? and bear in mind, we're part of nato. so anything that's emerging or drones from emerging missiles or drones from the east would fly friendly the east would fly over friendly forces as well. and of course, the war at the moment in europe is in ukraine. and we've done brilliantly in setting, sending our equipment to there because that's where the fight currently is. but the army has capabilities, as does the navy, andindeed capabilities, as does the navy, and indeed the raf, to protect our skies. right now the army has something called sky sabre, which is a short to medium range anti—aircraft anti—missile system. the navy has sea viper, which we've seen in use in the red sea, taking down those houthi drones. also introducing, shortly introduce something called dragon fire, which quite incredible state of the art high

density laser beams, which i think is a sign of the future. and then finally, it's worth mentioning the raf, has two bases, coningsby and lossiemouth in north scotland, on quick reaction alert, able to scramble typhoons in a matter of minutes to take down any defence, air attacks that may come in, types of attacks that actually participated , as you implied, participated, as you implied, when the iranians , sent their when the iranians, sent their missiles and drones, to heading towards israel because, as i understand it, the reason why it wouldn't be an iron dome system is because that is really for sort of closer range , missile sort of closer range, missile strikes, which israel face on a daily basis. >> so it's the perfect system to protect them kind protect them from kind of localised fire. but if it were, say, a ballistic missile or one of the other type missiles , it of the other type missiles, it would be coming. it would need to down before, to be taken down before, well before it anywhere uk before it got anywhere into uk airspace. just wondering airspace. and i'm just wondering what capabilities do we have the capability to do that ? tobias. >> yes, i've just listed three capabilities, but we definitely

have that , the army, the air have that, the army, the air force, the navy. what i think we are going to need in the future is how do we counter a rogue drone attack, for example, that's launched, you know, in the dover straits, for example, that's the sort of thing that we need to be prepared for, as you allude to the reason why israel is so good at this is because they've to persistently they've had to persistently protect themselves from those hamas decades , and hamas rockets over decades, and that's why they've perfected this system, which is very much localised as such, where the world is going. absolutely it will be part and parcel of any wider discussion as to how we make sure that we protect britain's interests, both here andindeed britain's interests, both here and indeed overseas, because we'll need to not only have these systems here in the uk, but also in territories and but also in our territories and indeedin but also in our territories and indeed in our interests elsewhere. >> okay, james snyder , i think >> okay, james snyder, i think that we should have defence systems that are the type that we need , not ones that are from we need, not ones that are from very different contexts. >> it's exactly as you're

saying. the iron dome works in its particular context in israel, where it is geographically and with the enemies that it has, it's not really relevant to britain. so i think this so—called bold breaking ranks intervention by penny mordaunt is really not terribly much to do with how we defend ourselves in the future, and is much more about what future jobs she would like to have leading her party. >> well, well . but tobias >> well, well. but tobias pointed that you could pointed out that you could have things fired to us from a things being fired to us from a localised space rather than from a long—range, and we haven't got anything to protect ourselves from anything like that. and even though you might not foresee that we would have any sort with our sort of argument with our partners on and so forth. partners and so on and so forth. i ukraine thought partners and so on and so forth. i russia ukraine thought partners and so on and so forth. i russia would (raine thought partners and so on and so forth. i russia would attack:hought partners and so on and so forth. i russia would attack afterht that russia would attack after we all signed the budapest memorandum , but they did. memorandum, but they did. >> i think that i mean, i think there were lots of people in ukraine that did think that russia was a potential military threat, and they turned out to to be be correct. i think we should have defences that defend

our country that are right for what we need. i mean, of course, that needs to have some speculation into the future, but it seems to me that things like cyber are much more likely to be a serious threat than, you know, some an armada of drones coming from france or something. >> did you see what happened to israel? i mean, that wasn't cyben israel? i mean, that wasn't cyber. that was an armada of drones, just as you. >> yes, but but with as i said, israel has a very different context where it is geographic and with its opponents. then what what we have . well, but if what what we have. well, but if l, what what we have. well, but if i, if i were in the time, if we were , if we were sitting in an were, if we were sitting in an israeli tv studio, i would say that the iron dome for israel is an extremely good thing. and of course, that they should invest in we're sitting in in it. but we're not sitting in in it. but we're not sitting in in tel aviv, we're sitting here in tel aviv, we're sitting here in london. and so we should have defence systems which are which are relevant context . are relevant to our context. >> but i yeah, i think you should maybe prepare for , for should maybe prepare for, for the worst in all context. what do you think philip holland

look, i think tobias, i you sound far more optimistic than, than many other, friends and colleagues i know in the armed services. >> really , our defence systems >> really, our defence systems are very platform dependent. you know, for the olympics, we had a type 45, destroyer park in, in the thames. and then we had we put, defence missiles on, on top of buildings in the scenario we're planning for, which is a conflict with russia. most of our military planners forms will be abroad defending british troops , on the front line, one troops, on the front line, one imagines. and on the nato front line, we don't have in place in situ the adequate facilities to defend in the type of situation that we're trying to now plan for, which is mass, missile attacks. we simply don't. and we have a range of figures

commenting that what we need is an integrated platform with longer range missile defence to precisely protect us against these attacks. we don't have enough aircraft against russian glide bomb attacks, where the bombers stand off and can can launch numerous missiles. so i think that that we're fighting against kind of small interventions, but i don't think interventions, but i don't think in the war we envisage the platforms you're naming for defence will be abroad, not at home. and i think what penny mordaunt is right in arguing for is a land based, protection system appropriate to our circumstances. just like the israelis have, but at a longer range , and that was my point, range, and that was my point, really why i asked you that , really why i asked you that, tobias, with regards to whether we actually i know you listed a load of platforms and things, but i was just sceptical as to whether we did actually have that protect that capability to protect ourselves properly, even though

we have these other things that are elsewhere. i just kind of was would that have was would hope that we have something internally that we can control, that can protect control, that we can protect ourselves don't ourselves with. and i just don't think don't do. but think i don't think we do. but anyway, listed the anyway, well, i listed the technology that's there already and there's absolutely right that what's been discussed here is the fact that the threats are changing. >> the world is getting more dangerous, not less. and we're seeing an alliance between these agitators, these aggressors , agitators, these aggressors, namely, particularly iran and indeed russia . so, absolutely, i indeed russia. so, absolutely, i stress that at the very start, we will need to spend more on defence, and it will need to focus in on, air defence particularly. we have capabilities we shouldn't dismiss the type 45, the sea viper system . it is the best viper system. it is the best anti—aircraft, anti—missile , anti—aircraft, anti—missile, anti—drone system in the world. in the world. i make that very, very clear. what we don't have is enough of them because the threat is clearly changing as we speak. we didn't expect to be having state on state aggression

in the way that we are now. about 10 to 15 years ago, we were running out of it. and that's why i've called for a defence review to be able to for us to take stock of what threats are coming over here. i've got to move on. >> but 10s to you. 10s. >> the point is, tobias , i agree >> the point is, tobias, i agree with you about the type 45, but in in the war situation, which we're now planning for, the type 45 are not going to be parked up on britain's shores to defend britain's shores. they'll be in our shipping lanes. >> well, okay. thank you so much for that. we've run out time. for that. we've run out of time. i could talk about forever, i could talk about this forever, but be carrying on with but we will be carrying on with the british debate anyway. but we will be carrying on with thethank british debate anyway. but we will be carrying on with thethank you ish debate anyway. but we will be carrying on with thethank you ish muchte anyway. but we will be carrying on with thethank you ish muchte ijames. so thank you so much to james schneider, former advisor schneider, former labour advisor jeremy corbyn, phillip blonde, former ellwood, conservative mp tobias ellwood, conservative mp for bournemouth and former for bournemouth east and former chairman select chairman of the defence select committee. if you've just committee. well if you've just joined us welcome on board. this is tv, online and on is gb news on tv, online and on digital coming we'll digital radio. coming up we'll continue british continue with this great british debate i'm asking is it time for the build an iron dome? the uk to build an iron dome? you'll hear the thoughts my you'll hear the thoughts of my panel you'll hear the thoughts of my panel, christine panel, danny kelly and christine hamilton come at five.

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joining me in my panel, awesome broadcaster christine hamilton and also broadcaster and journalist danny kelly. i'm going to start with you, danny kelly. going to start with you, danny kel i . going to start with you, danny keli didn't catch all of your >> i didn't catch all of your panel discussion. did someone mention something called dragonfire , for the royal dragonfire, for which the royal navy, are navy, hopefully by 2027, are going equip all of their going to equip all of their ships. they're going to try and get ukraine. first cost get it in ukraine. first cost £10 shot. basically, it's £10 a shot. basically, it's a laser beam. it's quite remarkable. this technology now last week i was rather casually dismissive of your suggestion that maybe we need an iron dome, and my defence of that was would be that, well, hopefully we're going some that going to get some warning that we're attack. we're going to be under attack. but you about but the more you think about this this conflict sort of this as as this conflict sort of accelerates is showing no accelerates and is showing no sign stopping or slowing sign of stopping or slowing down, you wouldn't necessarily have of saying, okay, have the luxury of saying, okay, well, we think maybe we're going to attacked in weeks. to get attacked in three weeks. you plan now. now you you need to plan now. now you need planning right need to start planning right now. now in the first gulf now. today now in the first gulf war, you the very early, war, you saw the very early, equivalents and they were called the patriot saddam the patriot missile. saddam hussein in 1991. i think that was the first gulf war. yeah, he tried to draw israel into it,

into the conflict by firing scud missiles into israel. i remember that, israel would fight that, yes. so israel would fight back , and then all a sudden back, and then all of a sudden the world would get the arab world would get involved would you involved and it would be, you know, a middle eastern war rather iraq. and, rather than just an iraq. and, and, iraq kuwait war with and, iraq and kuwait war with the so this, this the coalition so this, this dragon fire costs a tenner. so that's going to be cost effective, but i agree. listen, i'm going to defer to the experts . and if the experts say, experts. and if the experts say, listen, let's getting our listen, let's start getting our house defence wise. house in order. defence wise. let's get some iron domes. let's get patriots. if get some more patriots. if that's still modern technology, get some more patriots. if that somel modern technology, get some more patriots. if that some imodern technology, get some more patriots. if that some i do dern technology, get some more patriots. if thatsome i do dern technofeel but some i do sometimes feel a sense of almost complacency sometimes. >> i mean, just speaking to them earlier that, oh, well, we've got this and we're fine and we're not fine. and i'm really glad that phillip blonde was able to point out that, look, we're not fine. all our sort of defence, things outside our defence, things outside our defence in this country , we defence on in this country, we are reliant on platforms elsewhere. and that's that's dangerous. >> absolutely. and when we don't only just need an iron dome, we need an iron lady. and when the iron lady at the end of the cold

war, margaret thatcher, she warned that, okay, the cold war was ended. but we cannot take our defence for granted. and we and think what we do to and i think that's what we do to and i think that's what we do to a certain extent. think, and i think that's what we do to a ceriwe'reltent. think, and i think that's what we do to a ceriwe're never think, and i think that's what we do to a ceriwe're never going nk, have well, we're never going to have an anything like an invasion or anything like that. think we also defend that. and i think we also defend depend certain extent on if depend to a certain extent on if something comes from, from, from depend to a certain extent on if son middle comes from, from, from depend to a certain extent on if son middle east�*s from, from, from depend to a certain extent on if son middle east or rom, from, from depend to a certain extent on if sonmiddle east or russia.ym, from the middle east or russia. there'll be somebody between us and intercept it, and them who will intercept it, not necessarily the russians. submarines the sea. you submarines in the north sea. you could easily find a cruise missile. missile is lobbed from one of them. so definitely we do. and people sort of say, oh, you mustn't spend on defence. we need more hospitals goodness need more hospitals and goodness knows don't defend knows what. if we don't defend ourselves increasingly ourselves in an increasingly dangerous world, it doesn't matter how hospitals you matter how many hospitals you have wiped out. so of have will be wiped out. so of course we do. >> well, that's in favour. >> yes, well, that's in favour. well, listen, show well, listen, this show is nothing you and nothing without you and your views well. our views as well. come. our great british their british voice is their opportunity on tell us opportunity to be on and tell us what think about the topics what they think about the topics we're should we're discussing. where should we're discussing. where should we should so we go? where should we go? so we go home carpet, go to the home of carpet, kidderminster. let's have a chat with kidderminster . with john reid in kidderminster. john reid i think we need to do

a little song, don't we? happy birthday to you . birthday to you. >> birthday to you. >> birthday to you. >> happy 80th birthday john. he's not 80. how dare you john? john how old are you? it's your birthday today. john. how old are you today? 25. >> nana. i'm 76 today. >> nana. i'm 76 today. >> really? >> really? >> wow. the same year that the national health service started, 1948. well, happy birthday . 1948. well, happy birthday. >> thank you ever so much. >> thank you ever so much. >> that's really nice of you. thank you so much . thank you so much. >> it's my pleasure today. sorry it in tune. yeah. it it wasn't in tune. yeah. it wasn't in tune though. sorry about so what do you about that. but. so what do you think then, john. i mean, do we need start investing in need to start investing in something an dome? something like an iron dome? have more protection on this on soil like israel? >> yeah. >> yeah. >> i agree with both of your panellists . really, the defence panellists. really, the defence of this country is obviously of the utmost importance . and of the utmost importance. and of course it is, whether we could actually produce dome like the actually produce a dome like the israelis have and stop ourselves being out of the world by being bombed out of the world by missiles or anything else. you

know, that somehow , i know, i doubt that somehow, i don't we're the world don't think we're the world power were. perhaps power that we once were. perhaps we were never really, maybe been born three years after the world war two finish. you know, i've no of real war, but i no knowledge of real war, but i think we we be, think we should. we should be, looking at our defence. but to be honest, nana, i think the big dangeris be honest, nana, i think the big danger is terrorism. it's much, much easier for a terrorist to do something horrible in this country. and you know, do some serious harm and serious damage than there ever is in missiles coming over. so i think, yes, we do need to scale it up. and as for penny morden, well, i think she's just posturing. i think she's just posturing. i think she wants to be the prime minister, doesn't she? yeah you might a better it. might make a betterjob of it. >> anyone would . john >> i think anyone would. john reid, so much. really reid, thank you so much. really good you. happy good to talk to you. happy birthday. john right. thank you. that's fabulous. his that's fabulous. tom. it's his birthday . bless his heart. birthday today. bless his heart. you're with me. i'm akua. you're with me. i'm nana akua. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. coming up next, great british debate. i'm asking, has london become a no go forjewish people on the go zone for jewish people on the weekends? next worldview.

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show. no. look, nana, i'm here in my museum in tel aviv, and i don't know if you knew this , but don't know if you knew this, but i was friends with john lennon. that was when i used to live in new york. here behind me, i have some mementos of john, including, believe it or not, a pair of his glasses, which he did not like because they were not round. and by the way, i also have some of his hair, which means i have john lennon's dna . now. which means i have john lennon's dna. now. john was a dreamer and his most famous song was imagine. we all know, imagine . imagine. we all know, imagine. this is an anthem about peace in the world. now we are in a very dangerous place now. the middle east is in a state of conflict. but i was very encouraged to learn that america, as you said, has just voted to send $17 billion of defence aid to israel. wow. the relationship with america is still ironclad. now iran will hate the fact that america is spending $17 billion

on israel's defence, but not only iran nana the protesters, flooding the streets of london every weekend will also hate it. but before the usual critics start shouting about it and there will be people in britain and no, no doubt, who will wonder why america is spending so much money on israel . well, so much money on israel. well, let me tell you and your viewers some truth . look, israel, yes, some truth. look, israel, yes, israel is on the front line of the western world. we hold the same values as europe and america. israel believes in freedom and human rights. israel is like a dam holding back the tide of islamic extremists from flooding into europe and the uk. nana now , let me tell you what nana now, let me tell you what america gets in return, because people don't know for $17 billion. let me tell you, it

gets a partnership with the most technically advanced country in the middle east. it gets intel science, which saves american lives and british lives. if you didn't know that, it gets to do billions of dollars of trade , billions of dollars of trade, which creates americans jobs and most importantly , it gets a most importantly, it gets a stable and reliable partner in a region filled with chaos . but do region filled with chaos. but do you know what else? and this is what no one ever talks about. no america . soldier fights for america. soldier fights for israel . americans do not lose israel. americans do not lose lives for israel . israel always lives for israel. israel always fights its own wars. and there are no american boots on the ground in israel . now, let me ground in israel. now, let me tell you this. in japan, there are 50,000 american troops in germany , there are 40,000 germany, there are 40,000 american troops in south korea. the 30,000 30,000 american troops in korea . the cost of us

troops in korea. the cost of us aid to these countries actually dwarfs, dwarfs what it gives to israel. and by the way, nana, by the way , the new us aid package the way, the new us aid package $9 billion is going to humanity american aid to gaza. so the palestinians. american aid to gaza. so the palestinians . yeah. and the palestinians. yeah. and the palestinians. yeah. and the palestinians benefit in a huge way can i do i have very briefly you know you've got about 20 you've got about 20s. >> okay. >> okay. >> look the last thing you you we talked about the missile and, i showed you this picture, i want you yesterday to . wait, want you yesterday to. wait, wait, wait. i'm coming close up. look at the size of this. >> that goes all the way back. doesn't it? yes. we saw that yesterday, uri geller. it is frightening. >> yeah, yeah, we're launched into israel. there you go. >> uri geller, of course. always a pleasure to hear your thoughts and your views. thank you so much for joining again. and much forjoining me again. and you yourself. we you take care of yourself. we look seeing you next look forward to seeing you next

week. uri week. thank you so much. uri geller . week. thank you so much. uri geller. right. week. thank you so much. uri geller . right. cross over geller. right. let's cross over live to speak to live to america now to speak to the the politics people the host of the politics people podcast, paul duddridge, all the peace. paul duddridge right. well we've got loads of things going because we've got the trump us a quick trump trial. give us a quick update . update. >> there are 34 felony charges. levelled against president trump. >> and he's facing them in new york. >> this week has been the first week of the trial. >> and that has just been the jury >> and that has just been the jury selection stage. >> so we still haven't seen any evidence exchanged that will start this week. >> we'll start actually seeing what case, president trump has to answer the trial is scheduled to answer the trial is scheduled to last between 6 and 8 weeks. and obviously that's going to take a massive bite out of his ability to campaign effectively because in previous, cases he's been involved in they've been civil trials. so he hasn't had to actually attend in a criminal trial . he is to actually attend in a criminal trial. he is actually banned to attend every day, well, they tried to say that he fell asleep and things like that, but to be honest, wouldn't? be so honest, who wouldn't? i'd be so bored. probably fall asleep as

bored. i probably fall asleep as well. what's going then? well. what's going on, then? with uncle with regard to biden's uncle eaten by cannibals? that's what, it's not true. is it? i'm coming around. >> i think i may end up voting biden. >> i have to say, because i realise what he's for now. >> he's a so he's a war memorial in scranton, pennsylvania this week , and there's no doubt at week, and there's no doubt at all his uncle, ambrose finnegan, was a war hero . was a war hero. >> he was shot down off, i think it's off new guinea, today or this week, biden has said his uncle was eaten by cannibals. his uncle was eaten by cannibals. >> the pentagon have said no evidence of such at all. the white house have come out and gone. yeah, even the white house now just going like, that now just going like, nah, that never now just going like, nah, that nev no, never even close. >> no, it's never even close. but leader of the free but the leader of the free world, the most powerful in world, the most powerful man in the now started just world, the most powerful man in the hour now started just world, the most powerful man in the hour everyow started just world, the most powerful man in the hour every day. :arted just world, the most powerful man in the hour every day. it'sed just fantastic. >> like i said, i think i'm >> so like i said, i think i'm all in on biden. all of a sudden. it'sjust. it's like he sudden. it's just. it's like he can't just simply have war can't just simply have a war hero family. hero in the family. >> the man was eaten by cannibals. finnegan, cannibals. ambrose finnegan, look it up. it's fantastic.

>> i don't know how anyone in america can take him seriously and talk about as though and talk about him as though he's politician . he's he's a serious politician. he's not. he's ill and he needs some help treatment, he help or treatment, but he certainly should running certainly should not be running the very the free world. and very briefly, about 20s on briefly, you've got about 20s on this. democrats aiming to this. the democrats aiming to remove secret service. remove trump's secret service. if he's convicted. remove trump's secret service. if hyes. onvicted. remove trump's secret service. if hyes. democrat bennie >> yes. democrat bennie thompson, he was the chair of the january 6th committee, this is this is any public official at all found guilty of a crime? >> should have their secret service, service, removed . and service, service, removed. and so that would only impact donald trump and that's just a coincidence, i'm sure. >> yes. well, listen, it's such a stitch up. that's what it looks like to me. paul duddridge, host of the politics people thank so people podcast. thank you so much that. that's much for all of that. that's great to you. and lots much for all of that. that's gr

protect our borders. so what hope if the government protect our borders. so what ho defend if the government protect our borders. so what ho defend our if the government protect our borders. so what ho defend our skiese government protect our borders. so what ho defend our skies literally ment to defend our skies literally well, to come, my outside well, still to come, my outside guest . she has won the bmx world guest. she has won the bmx world championships three times and represented team gb at the 2008 beijing and london 2012 olympic games. who think she is? games. who do you think she is? she's my outside guest. she is on the way let's get some weather. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> good afternoon. welcome to your latest gb news weather from the met office. so after another sunny day for most of us, there is a further cloud and rain on the way, all thanks to an area of low pressure well to the of low pressure well up to the north uk . but of low pressure well up to the north uk. but bringing north of the uk. but bringing these that these weak frontal systems that will way southwards will sink their way southwards through we through the rest of the day, we do still high pressure do still have high pressure around , that slips around, but that slowly slips away northwest, away towards the northwest, so the skies through the the cloudy skies through the rest of today, definitely for eastern parts of scotland, northern and slowly northern england and slowly sinking southwards northern england and slowly sinking of southwards northern england and slowly sinking of theyuthwards northern england and slowly sinking of the ukiwards northern england and slowly sinking of the uk through across much of the uk through the early hours monday

the early hours of monday morning. parts of morning. western parts of scotland, northern ireland generally staying little generally staying that little bit southern and bit drier, but it's southern and eastern parts of england that will clear skies and will see those clear skies and some temperatures , with will see those clear skies and some frost temperatures , with will see those clear skies and some frost teplaces,ures , with will see those clear skies and some frost teplaces, but , with will see those clear skies and some frost teplaces, but not th some frost in places, but not quite under all that quite as cold under all that cloud and that mean cloud and rain. that does mean that starts a much that monday starts a much cloudier day for most of us, particularly compared the particularly compared to the weekend of weekend with the outbreaks of rain we through the rain that we see through the morning their way morning slowly sipping their way southwards as we go through the rest day. not turning rest of the day. not turning particularly heavy but definitely much particularly heavy but definit day much particularly heavy but definitday than much particularly heavy but definitday than we've much particularly heavy but definitday than we've sawnuch particularly heavy but definitday than we've saw over the damp day than we've saw over the weekend. parts of weekend. northern parts of scotland probably seeing the best through best of the sunshine through the afternoon. quite afternoon. i'm feeling quite warm of scotland. warm across much of scotland. highs or degrees, but highs of 14 or 15 degrees, but definitely chillier under all that the that cloud and rain through the rest of monday and into the start tuesday. weak start of tuesday. that weak frontal system eventually clears its southeast, its way towards the southeast, leaving for many leaving a bright start for many of with plenty of sunshine of us with plenty of sunshine through tuesday morning. southern eastern parts still southern and eastern parts still staying quite cloudy with outbreaks of rain, there'll outbreaks of rain, and there'll be showers through be further showers through tuesday well, tuesday and wednesday as well, and something and further hints of something more the more unsettled through the second the week . second half of the week. >> looks like things are heating

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hello. good afternoon. it's 5:00. this is gb news on tv, onune 5:00. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua . for the next hour. me nana akua. for the next hour. me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headlines right coming the headlines right now. coming up, my outside guest. well, she's a former track cyclist and bmx racer who competed for great britain in the olympic games. we'll talk highs and lows and lessons learned and what comes next on the outside. but who is she then? for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking, has london become no zone has london become a no go zone for jewish on the for jewish people? on the weekends, thousands descend on the every single

the capital almost every single weekend. it means that lot weekend. but it means that a lot of jewish people are afraid to leave their houses. what do you think london become a no go think has london become a no go zone jewish people? but zone for jewish people? but first, let's get your latest news with sophia wenzler. >> nana. thank you. good afternoon. it's 5:00. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom . your wenzler in the gb newsroom. your top story this hour. mark menzies has announced his resignation from the tory party, saying he won't be standing at the next election. the fylde mp was suspended following claims he used political donations to cover medical expenses and pay off bad people who had locked him in a flat. he disputes the allegations following an investigation, the conservative party says it can't conclude there was a misuse of funds, but said there was a pattern of behaviour that falls below the standards expected of mps . standards expected of mps. british jewish leaders will meet the metropolitan police

commissioner later this week after accusing the force of a series of high profile errors. sir mark rowley is facing calls to quit over his handling of pro—palestinian protests, with the former home secretary , the former home secretary, suella braverman suggesting he's emboldened anti—semites . the emboldened anti—semites. the board of deputies of british jews says mistakes have a devastating effect on the previously high level of trust held in the police. the campaign against anti—semitism is also calling for sir mark to resign or be sacked, after its chief executive was described as openly jewish by an officer, cabinet minister claire coutinho says the government is addressing the incident . addressing the incident. >> the home secretary has made clear that what happened was unacceptable. i understand there's going to be a meeting in there's going to be a meeting in the coming days. i don't there's going to be a meeting in the coming days . i don't know the coming days. i don't know what conversation is going to take there. we take place there. i think we should how conversation should see how that conversation goes. ultimately goes. but ultimately what's really important is that people in the jewish community feel safe. know that we're on safe. they know that we're on their side and that what we want to equal policing in this

to see is equal policing in this country, also sure country, and also to make sure that they can go about their normal lives. that's what i want to see. >> a decision by the us to approve £49 billion in aid for ukraine has been welcomed by the uk, with the foreign secretary describing it as a vital step forward. after months of wrangling , american politicians wrangling, american politicians ended a deadlock, agreeing to provide a package which will also help replenish weapons and munitions . also help replenish weapons and munitions. us president zelenskyy says the move will keep the war from expanding and will save thousands of lives . it will save thousands of lives. it now heads to the senate, which is expected to pass the bill in the next few days. 20 million people were plagued by anti—social behaviour and vandalism last year, according to new figures. shadow home secretary yvette cooper says labour government would crack down on yobs. she promised the party would get tough to restore community safety. former police officer oliver lawrence says more policy isn't the answer . more policy isn't the answer. >> more legislation, more policy, more procedure isn't

going to fix it. i would argue that we've got more than enough with more than 32 pieces of legislation already there. legislation already out there. what we need is proper enforcement proper execution enforcement and proper execution of the legislation by our justice system to make sure that we have penalties for people that commit these crimes in our communities . communities. >> in other news, thousands of people have been gathering for a vigil on bondi beach to remember those who died in a stabbing attack in sydney. six obe sea bass how sweet the sound six people were killed by joel cauchi in a shopping centre last saturday. the attacker was shot dead by police. australia's prime minister, anthony albanese , says may those we have lost rest in eternal peace forever in our hearts . and a record 50,000 our hearts. and a record 50,000 people are running the london

marathon. many have now crossed the finishing line after completing the 26.2 mile route. supporters are still out and about though, cheering those on who are still making their way through the city streets. they started after 10 am, the started just after 10 am, the event raising millions of pounds for charities as professional athletes kicked off the event , athletes kicked off the event, with kenyan alexander munyao winning the race in two hours and four minutes. in the women's category. olympic champion peres jepchirchir set a new world record. also, kenyan . she record. also, kenyan. she finished in two hours, 16 minutes and 16 seconds. she says she was surprised by her achievement. >> feeling grateful. i'm so happy. >> feeling grateful. i'm so happy- happy- >> feeling grateful. i'm so happy. happy. unbelievable. i was not expecting that. it's mean a lot for me because last yeari mean a lot for me because last year i was expecting to win, but unfortunately i didn't win. i was tired, but i was happy too . was tired, but i was happy too. but, this year i'm so, so happy. >> for the latest story, sign up

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former bicycle motocross racer and track cyclist , whose prime and track cyclist, whose prime competitive years began in 2002. she won the bmx world championships three times and represented team gb at the 2008 beijing and london 2012 olympic games . my guest will be revealed games. my guest will be revealed in just a moment. not unless you've already guessed who she is.then you've already guessed who she is. then for the great british debate i'm asking, debate this hour, i'm asking, has london no go zone has london become a no go zone for on the for jewish people on the weekends ? with the government's weekends? with the government's counter extremism commissioner warning last month that london is a no go zone forjews, every is a no go zone for jews, every weekend . what do you think? are weekend. what do you think? are you jewish? perhaps you think that for the great british that so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking, has become go zone has london become a no go zone for jewish people weekends? has london become a no go zone for jofish people weekends? has london become a no go zone for jof course ple weekends? has london become a no go zone for jof course ,le weekends? has london become a no go zone for jof course , there'seekends? has london become a no go zone for jof course , there's aekends? has london become a no go zone for jof course , there's a newis? has london become a no go zone for jof course , there's a new way and of course, there's a new way for you to get in touch with me as ever. gbnews.com forward slash . so each sunday slash your say. so each sunday at five, i'm joined by a celebrity, a former mp, or someone who's had an extremely

interesting career. so take a look at after the job. we look at life after the job. we talk highs, lows and lessons learned and what comes next on the outside. today my the outside. and today my outside a british outside guest is a british former bicycle motocross racer, a track whose prime a track cyclist whose prime competitive years began in 2002. she won the bmx world championships three times and in two time team spirit sprint sort of world champion on the track and represented team gb in 2008 and represented team gb in 2008 and 2012. in the olympic games. did you work out who she is? well, i'll tell you, i'm joined by former olympic athlete , it's by former olympic athlete, it's not that shaznay , is it? is it? not that shaznay, is it? is it? as i read it, shaznay. they've written it wrong. shanaze. reade. oh, shanaze, i asked you, how do i say it? and i said it exactly right. and then i totally got it wrong . i knew totally got it wrong. i knew that happen. that's okay. that would happen. that's okay. shanaze reade. this is who she is. shanaze. so bmx singh, you would normally think that most people who are mostly people who do bmx are mostly male and it's quite a daredevil sport. why on did you sport. why on earth did you choose to do that? >> because i literally was a kid

that was full of energy. >> like i couldn't sit still and now i've been diagnosed with adhd, so it makes a lot of sense i >> -- >> and i 5mm >> and i just loved anything that made me feel alive. so like bmx jumping, 35 foot jumps, racing around the track like just summed me up to a tee. >> but so. so you've been diagnosed with adhd. so many people say that. mean, people say that. i mean, i probably but i don't, i probably got it, but i don't, i don't, i mean did did because don't, i mean did did i because there's people being there's so many people being diagnosed it. could that diagnosed with it. could that not the normal that not just be the normal you that is you? mean hyper. i'm up is you? i mean i'm hyper. i'm up there. wouldn't that's there. i wouldn't say that's something .adhd sounds something wrong. adhd sounds like an illness or. >> that's exactly how >> yeah, that's exactly how i feel, actually. >> you feel ill or you feel it's not like it can be a tag. >> like, i just feel like i'm not a tin of beans, so i don't need a label on me. >> made me allow and >> but it made me allow and understand how my understand a little bit how my brain understand a little bit how my bra but me, superpower >> but for me, it's a superpower . like to have this much energy, to to hyper focus, to be to be able to hyper focus, to be able to be committed to something yeah, mean, able to be committed to som blessed yeah, mean, able to be committed to somblessed . yeah, mean, i'm blessed. >> why do they have to give that some sort of label though some sort of label as though it's thing? think i've it's a bad thing? i think i've

got yeah. bring it on. yeah. got it. yeah. bring it on. yeah. i i'm there's i mean, i'm sure there's some serious know, i mean, i'm sure there's some serials know, i mean, i'm sure there's some seria negative know, i mean, i'm sure there's some seria negative but know, it's a negative thing, but i think people i hear are think in most people i hear are quite hyperactive. think quite hyperactive. and i think there's of there's probably a level of normality to this now. so you started bmxing, you went into this, did you ever imagine that you'd then become a world champion at and be an champion at it and be an olympian yeah i did, olympian doing that? yeah i did, you did, i did, you know, i was a kid like my mum had me at 16. >> the council estate >> i was from the council estate in crewe and i had vision. in crewe and i had this vision. i'd look window and i'd i'd look out the window and i'd be , i can do and be be like, i can do and be anything i to be. i wanted anything i want to be. i wanted to bit more success to be a bit more of a success than my father he was than my father was. he was a jamaican, 19 kids had to jamaican, 19 kids had nothing to do kids. do with 19 kids. >> wow. definitely didn't >> wow. it definitely didn't fire blanks, i wanted to be fire blanks, and i wanted to be successful, so i just needed to find that niche , something to find that niche, something to grab hold of. but i always, like i'd practised my signature when i'd practised my signature when i was a kid, like in school, like. yeah. and i just had this just immense sort of drive to be successful. well, and you have you have been successful as well. talk to me about all the stuff you said bmx thing. what

is. because i did a little thing a little while ago about bmx many years ago. one of the first things i did in tv , and i asked things i did in tv, and i asked the person because he was doing these somersault type these like somersault type things you do things with the bike. do you do all no i'm all about speed. >> so your speed, basically eight of us on a ten metre high starting ramp. the gate drops, we go around series of jumps we go around a series of jumps and turns, and it's and round turns, and it's essentially the fastest person and round turns, and it's essenso.ly the fastest person and round turns, and it's essenso we're fastest person and round turns, and it's essenso we're about;t person and round turns, and it's essenso we're about speed)n wins. so we're about speed and efficiency over over jumps, really. whereas the tricks and stuff is more the freestyle bmx racing. >> yeah, that looks kind of scary a real crazy. they're the ones who've definitely got adhd and some sort of level of madness as well attached to them as so you started doing as well. so you started doing all you became successful. all that. you became successful. what being in the what was it like, being in the olympics in 2012 was such a great i remember that , yeah. >> like it was, it was a dream come true because going to beijing never been in beijing bmx had never been in the so it was his the olympic games. so it was his first time it was going in. i was tipped to be the favourite to win the olympics. it was going world champion hadn't going in. world champion hadn't lost a lap and i remember like

it felt so different to a traditional bmx world championships. princess margaret had knocked on my door to wish me good luck. wow beckham was there. i'm just this kid there. no and i'm just this kid with bmx. did he come and with my bmx. did he come and talk to you? yeah. oh my god. he came london as well his came to london as well with his boys and there so boys and like, there were so many when it was big in many bmx fans when it was big in the and they i felt the 80s and like they and i felt like of a deer in the like a bit of a deer in the headlights a rabbit the headlights to be a rabbit in the headlights, but headlights, to be honest. but like just that, the how like just that, how the how proud to represent my proud i felt to represent my country and so many people had put me down over the years saying, you'll never make it. you'll you'll amount to nothing and to be stood there with the jersey on in beijing, it was a bit of a yeah, stick my fingers up to those who said i'd never make it. well, exactly. >> and what was the flag mean to you that british flag, you that the british flag, because lots of different companies taken companies like nike have taken it board and of turned it on board and sort of turned it on board and sort of turned it purple done sort of weird it purple and done sort of weird things what take things to it. what was your take on that? on all of that? >> i'm very traditional. >> i'm a very traditional. i like you like the british flag to me, you know, everything. know, like his everything. like i love the british. like when i was on podium and just

was on the podium and just listened the national anthem listened to the national anthem playing like, if something's not broken, like broken, why try and fix it like it is what it is. and to me, them colours represent, you know, country, great know, our country, great britain, i think it just know, our country, great britairto i think it just know, our country, great britairto be i think it just know, our country, great britairto be left nk it just know, our country, great britairto be left outt just know, our country, great britairto be left out istt know, our country, great britairto be left out is and not needs to be left out is and not you know i think. yeah for sure. definitely >> i don't see why they need to tamper with it. so when you're how your bmx how long your career bmx obviously get older it obviously as you get older it then disappears . you're then sort of disappears. you're no doing that right. no longer doing that right. >> longer doing that. no longer doing that right. >> then longer doing that. no longer doing that right. >> then from longer doing that. no longer doing that right. >> then from there' doing that. no longer doing that right. >> then from there whatg that. no longer doing that right. >> then from there whatg th you so then from there what did you go from there. a bit go and do. so from there. a bit of a wild story, really. i retired and then become an alcoholic. no. yeah, not not by choice. i didn't. no, no, you didn't do and become an alcoholic. >> i won't drink all that. >> i won't drink all that. >> yeah , but i did. i went down >> yeah, but i did. i went down a very dark path. i had. no, i lost identity because from a ten year all the way up to year old kid, all the way up to a 27, i. all knew was the a 27, i. all i knew was the bike. like nothing else. like i didn't gcses. didn't didn't have any gcses. i didn't do anything but ride that bike to the to the fastest capabilities i was capable of, and for for a, a few years it went very dark, and to i had get

help and go to a support group. i went to aa and it saved my life. like, and i say being an alcoholic is actually the best thing to ever happen to me. and i don't say that lightly either, but just because of finding out who was from the inside, like who i was from the inside, like it's very easy to operate in this world in a, in a superficial way. but for me , superficial way. but for me, i've always been like very like integral and deep. and i wanted to know who this person was in this that i was in, not this shell that i was in, not what i did, but who i was. and it was a very painful, dark journey, but such a journey that it's . yeah. i journey, but such a journey that it's .yeah. i never thought it's been. yeah. i never thought i'd live the life that i lived today. >> so how did you get out of it? you went to saw somebody, got help , but then how you went to saw somebody, got help, but then how did you manage to get yourself back on a great you're great level pegging? you're doing you're doing great level pegging? you're doi sorts you're doing great level pegging? you're doi sorts things. you're doing all sorts of things. >> do know, like, >> now, do you know, like, i just if you do the right, just think if you do the right, if you the right thing, if you do the next right thing, the right happens. the next right thing happens. and i remember and i never had like i remember i'd like i'd had no work i'd been like i'd had no work for three years, nothing. i then got sober and then there's a

spiritual aspect to the aa program. and for me, i connected with a higher power greater than myself and my life . i can't even myself and my life. i can't even explain it. like even when i think about it now. like i'm so grateful. but it just got better and andi grateful. but it just got better and and i had this, this and better. and i had this, this , this sort of epiphany and a dream wanted to be on sas dream that i wanted to be on sas celeb sas and everyone was laughing at me . i was 18.5 stone laughing at me. i was 18.5 stone drinking alcohol, and everyone was like , are you going to make was like, are you going to make that program? and then one day, six months being sober, i six months after being sober, i was the us. was on holiday was in the us. i was on holiday and an email from a random and i get an email from a random man yeah, behold , it man and yeah, lo and behold, it was to asked to go on to sas was to be asked to go on to sas and was just like, how is and it was just like, how is that happen? you me that happen? so you asked me how, know, just keep how, i don't know, i just keep doing the next thing and doing the right next thing and the thing happened. the right next thing happened. >> have >> well, you have to put yourself there to that yourself out there to get that thing. if you thing. if you're not, if you don't the applications or don't make the applications or take out to receive take the time out to receive this thing, then this next good thing, then it won't and you've won't happen. and you've been doing was that for doing that. and how was that for you? how well did you do in there, i did well, like it was, it was just interesting it was just so interesting

because we did it in scotland and did it with the last series with ant middleton , and which with ant middleton, and which was but it yeah , was fantastic. but it was, yeah, it was. i thought sport was hard, like i really did. and i thought, oh, what you see on the tv, it's never going to be as hard in real life. it's harder, it's harder. it's 24 hours in the day and they fill them 24 hours. and yeah, it was very it was brutal. but in doing so again they, they break you down to back up and you to build you back up and you just find out more and more about yourself. and that's what we're isn't like we're here for, isn't it. like ultimately find out who we ultimately is to find out who we are and you know, and what we're capable of on deeper level. capable of on a deeper level. but opportunity, honestly, but any opportunity, honestly, like hands, like i grab with both hands, like i grab with both hands, like i grab with both hands, like i always want to be better and do better in life and but in line with my morals and values. so game to take it all like so i'm game to take it all like i did in sport. >> what about nicola sturgeon? what was the involvement there? >> many different >> yeah, so i do many different things. someone asked me what my job is. i'm like, i've got a few things that i do, but i worked as youth ambassador for

as the, youth ambassador for scotland and a lot of that work was with nicola sturgeon for the youth in deprived, because for me, it's all about grassroots. if there wasn't volunteers, my career never would have took off, ever. and because no family came to watch me race, very supportive grandparents, but i needed to have them volunteers. so for me, it's about putting putting back in to the sport and in doing so it was yeah, i went to some interesting places in scotland and, it was great to work with like different mps and, you know, rub shoulders with different walks of life. but just to give my honest review in, in a, a situation review in, in a, in a situation where people full of suits, where it's people full of suits, you know, mps, it was just like, i'll give you i'll always give you honest opinion if you you my honest opinion if you like you don't like it. like it or you don't like it. and i learnt lot and we and yeah, i learnt a lot and we was able to put in quite a lot of infrastructures for the kids and stuff. so yeah, it was a really, really privileged and stuff. so yeah, it was a reaihowzally privileged and stuff. so yeah, it was a reaihow long privileged and stuff. so yeah, it was a reaihow long agoleged and stuff. so yeah, it was a reaihow long agolege> how long ago was that? >> how long ago was that? >> it was last year. so i >> it was only last year. so i did placement for three did the placement for three years year. years last year. >> not there anymore i >> -- >> no she she left. >> no she she left. >> yes. so talk about nicola

sturgeon . my mother doesn't like sturgeon. my mother doesn't like her at all. mom says i hate her at all. my mom says i hate that . bless her heart. so that woman. bless her heart. so now doing now? now what are you doing now? where's your thing? because like you said, you do lots of different now what different things. but now what are on? are you focused on? >> so last year i decided >> so i've. last year i decided to a little on my to put a little pause on my life. just reassessment. was life. just reassessment. i was living was in a living in london. i was in a relationship got relationship and i sort of got lost little again. so i lost a little bit again. so i came back home to live in the north, and i've joined a new north, and now i've joined a new agency, which is amazing. and they really are in line they really, really are in line with who i am and what i want to achieve. and then i'm in a new relationship, which is, yeah , i relationship, which is, yeah, i feel i feel like a bit of a soppy feel i feel like a bit of a soppy person, but it's someone who i'm going to marry and spend the of my life with. i the rest of my life with. so i couldn't be happier couldn't be any happier internally. i internally. and then what am i doing with my career? it's the same again. i've got i'd same again. i've got goals i'd like achieve this year and like to achieve this year and but i'd love, doing but i'd love, like doing presenting just more of the same of what i'm doing, but to a greater degree . and so if greater degree. and so if that's, you know, doing tv that's, you know, doing more tv shows that's working in shows or that's working in a government, perspective, i just

want to do more of what i'm doing, but in a better way. but the biggest thing i'm doing, the biggest thing is i wrote a book last year, so i hit pause last year, so when i hit pause last year, so when i hit pause last i've got dyslexia. last year, i've got dyslexia. i never went to school, and i really wanted to challenge myself in a mental and an emotional way instead of physical. was all about the physical. i was all about the physical. i was all about the physical changes can, you know, physical. i was all about the physi:al changes can, you know, physical. i was all about the physi wanted ges can, you know, physical. i was all about the physi wanted to; can, you know, physical. i was all about the physi wanted to kind, you know, physical. i was all about the physi wanted to kind of)u know, physical. i was all about the physi wanted to kind of kibosh/, and i wanted to kind of kibosh that and to do something that was so off track. so i wrote a self—help book, memoir, and said that i think is probably my proudest thing i've ever done . proudest thing i've ever done. and just to dedicate 12 hours a day. and i wrote the whole book in seven weeks. so, like with day. and i wrote the whole book in ssuperpower so, like with day. and i wrote the whole book in ssuperpower adhd ke with day. and i wrote the whole book in ssuperpower adhd type th day. and i wrote the whole book in ssuperpower adhd type of the superpower adhd type of focus, don't take the label. yeah, don't take the label, don't take the label. >> there's so many people now diagnosed it. sort of. diagnosed with it. it's sort of. yeah, feels a bit, you know, yeah, it feels a bit, you know, i to yeah. i don't mean to be. yeah. >> for sure, but i use it to my, my strengths and not my weaknesses . and me, yeah, weaknesses. and for me, yeah, i wrote book and i want to wrote the book and i want to just that, and i want just build on that, and i want to do lot more mentoring as to do a lot more mentoring as well. something well. that's something that to me helping someone directly

me is helping someone directly achieve and not in achieve their goals and not in a, in a sense where i want to be their therapist and, you know, we but it's like, you've got we but it's like, if you've got something to achieve , something you want to achieve, let board and we let me jump on board and we achieve together. there's achieve it together. so there's all sorts going on. >> that's very exciting. do you have there a website have like, is there a website or somewhere go, can people somewhere you go, can people follow media? somewhere you go, can people folland media? somewhere you go, can people folland my media? somewhere you go, can people folland my social media? somewhere you go, can people folland my social media ia? somewhere you go, can people folland my social media is’ >> and my social media is ashkenazi sort ashkenazi read. and that's sort of i'm just of across the board. i'm just yeah, just my full name. yeah. just follow and. yeah. just hit that follow and. yeah. and i just, i just do different content. like for me it's about being open and a lot of mental health stuff in there. fitness stuff, yeah. you get it all with me . me. >> well it's nice. thank you very much for joining >> well it's nice. thank you very much forjoining me. that is janice reid. thank you so much. luck. i think much. good luck. yeah, i think she's fabulous. what she's fabulous. and she. what a motivational character that is. you can literally you see. so you can literally have if you focus on have anything if you focus on it. so thank you so much for shinade . i was doing so well. shinade. i was doing so well. why try to keep saying it? why did i try to keep saying it? how from reid how many times from denise reid for and talking to us. for coming in and talking to us. right. up, supplements. right. coming up, supplements. sunday, my partner and i discussed news discussed some of the news stories our eyes. stories that caught our eyes. next, british debate

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? shanaze. 7 shanaze. shanaze. oh ? shanaze. shanaze. oh ellen. good afternoon. if you just tuned in. welcome. this is gb news on tv, onune welcome. this is gb news on tv, online and digital radio. i'm nana akua has just gone 24 minutes after 5:00. i'm nana akua rights. it's time for the great british debate this hour . great british debate this hour. i'm asking, has london become a no go zone forjewish people on no go zone for jewish people on the weekends now? ever since the october seventh hamas attacks, we've seen thousands descend on london every weekend protesting about the war in gaza and the conflict has led to a rise in anti—semitism across london and the uk, with many british jews afraid to enter the capital dunng afraid to enter the capital during these marches. as a result, and last month, the

government's counter extremism commissioner warned that london is a no go zone forjews every is a no go zone for jews every weekend. although march organisers have said that jewish people did not need to be scared of events. so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking you has london actually become a go for jewish become a no go zone forjewish people on weekends? well, i can also now get the view of uk joining me to discuss is that uk ukip neil hamilton , also, ukip neil hamilton, also, activist peter tatchell, former london police officer norman brennan and also police commentator peter spence . right. commentator peter spence. right. i'm going to start with you, norman brennan. what do you think ? what are your thoughts? think? what are your thoughts? >> coming to >> well, anybody coming to london where whether by transport, train, bus, bike on foot and on the train or en route , or when you're at that route, or when you're at that location, you see threats, you see placards which are visible representation , and you hear representation, and you hear chants that are very abusive and

threatening, you're going to think twice about going to london. in fact, you probably won't go. and if ever you go to an area for example, where there's high knife crime, violent crime , and as a result violent crime, and as a result of that, you then refuse to go there or do not wish to go there because you fear for your safety or that of your family and children. that theoretically becomes a no go area. now, i was in policing for 31 years, and i got to tell you, when i joined the police service, there was no street borough, city, in britain that was a no go area . but street borough, city, in britain that was a no go area. but i'm sure for the jewish community now, many of them fear come into london. and if you fear going to a location that you would wish to legally go to, that has to be a no go area for that period of time and for that location . time and for that location. >> well, it does seem that way, peter tatchell , i'm a very peter tatchell, i'm a very strong supporter of the campaign against anti—semitism, but i'm

extremely distressed and upset by these false allegations . by these false allegations. >> over the last six months, there have been more than a dozen huge marches with a total of more than 3 to 4 million people. of all these marches, only 36 people have been charged with any offence . that's far with any offence. that's far less than at glastonbury now. i think that's the issue. these marches are not jewish people. many jewish people , and they're many jewish people, and they're welcomed. the marches are against israel's war crimes in gaza, and many of us also condemn the war crimes by hamas against israel . so it's against israel. so it's completely false to say that these marches are threatening to jewish people. >> they're not. well, i, i don't think i don't think that's that's true at all, actually, peter. >> and just because there's only been 36 arrests doesn't make it that jewish people feel they can't go to london. and i've heard many jewish people telling me that london is a frightening

place for them on the weekend, and a lot of them actually leave on sure on the weekends to make sure they don't deal they don't don't have to deal with any of it. >> that's just sure, i'm >> that's just i'm sure, i'm sure say that, but many sure some do say that, but many do. not many jewish people, thousands are joining those marches. they're jewish people who disagree with the israeli government's policy. they're not anti—semitic. >> they're not colluding with anti—semitism. they are jewish people. and everybody on that boati people. and everybody on that boat i ever met spoken against anti—semitism. why then and you say that? >> but one of them, somebody was, you know , carrying was, you know, carrying a swastika, i'm not saying that everybody in those marches are bad. i'm just saying that they are jewish people are are many jewish people are fearful of going into central london because of them. neil hamilton well, the reality is that if people do feel that they're not safe in central london as a result of these highly intimidating marches , highly intimidating marches, then that's the reality. >> it's not just perception. that's what they feel. they don't imagine this. they see

people wandering around the placards saying palestine will be from the river to the be free from the river to the sea. what does that mean? it's the annihilation of the of the annihilation of the state of israel . it's for israel. it's a call for genocide, effectively, to which hamas is explicitly committed. so, you know, the reality so, you know, that's the reality of these marches. and it's not just jewish people wonder , just jewish people who wonder, why is it that we allow the centre of our capital city to be taken over every single by taken over every single week by these are these people who are demonstrating about something that's going on in another country? it's country? and yes, it's a controversy, obviously, of worldwide significance . but, you worldwide significance. but, you know, there has to be a limit to the capacity for fanatics on either side of this argument to take over our streets in central london. and the result of this is that people do definitely feel in very large numbers that they are not welcome in their own capital city, and that if you're jewish, then you might well feel that you are , you well feel that you are, you know, physically at risk of being harmed. peter spencer i mean, what has catalysed this

debate, it seems to me, is that policeman a couple of days ago, referring to the jewish guy with the skull cap as being openly jewish, and that has really got people going because of the fact that it people going because of the fact thatitis people going because of the fact that it is an echo of the language used about the gay community, whereas it used to be the love that dare not speak its name. >> and then after that, eventually it became legal, but the stigma remained. >> and so people , the braver >> and so people, the braver members of the male gay community, would refer to themselves as openly gay and god and god alone knows has been so much anti—semitism over history. >> just check out shakespeare's the merchant of venice and look no further. but when it comes to what is going on, there is a hideous war taking place with tens of thousands of people losing their lives. >> we live in a democracy . >> we live in a democracy. >> we live in a democracy. >> we live in a democracy. >> we don't live in russia. so if people feel strongly about it, they are allowed to go on the streets. and when it comes to specifically the jewish community, make community, i would make the

point that a major mine made the mistake of trying to drive from camden to southwark. >> what were a couple of weekends ago, and it took him over two hours. so never mind a no go zone forjewish people. no go zone for jewish people. it's a no go zone for drivers. they're jolly, inconvenient . but they're jolly, inconvenient. but what do? what can you do? >> in civilised society , >> well, in a civilised society, in a in a civilised society, there cannot and must not ever be any place in britain where there is a no go area. >> what i would do, i mean, i've beenin >> what i would do, i mean, i've been in policing and law and order for 45 years. i'm ashamed that what my country has become, i don't recognise it anymore. and there's five words that in history will sum up this era angen history will sum up this era anger, hatred , belligerence, anger, hatred, belligerence, division and revenge. and these demonstrations, week in and week out that stop police officers from all over the local counties and london and devoid the local communities of their police officers, are under the cosh day in and day out. yes, some will make mistakes, some will say the

wrong things. the commissioner shouldn't resign the london mayor should resign. and by golly, those five words i've just described britain and london as being will define this era in history. and it's shameful. >> norman. pardon? thank you very much . former police officer very much. former police officer neil hamilton, leader ukip. neil hamilton, leader of ukip. also peter tatchell, human rights activist. and peter spencen rights activist. and peter spencer, political commentator . spencer, political commentator. thank you so for your thank you so much for your thoughts. is gb news 32 thoughts. this is gb news 32 minutes after 5:00. i'm nana akua we'll continue akua coming up. we'll continue with the great british debate this asking, has this hour. and i'm asking, has london go zone london become a no go zone for jewish on weekends jewish people? on the weekends you'll of my you'll hear the thoughts of my panel you'll hear the thoughts of my panel, christina and danny. but first, latest first, let's get your latest news wenzler. the news with sophia wenzler. the >> thanks, nana. it's 532. i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom. your headlines . mark newsroom. your headlines. mark menzies has announced his resignation from the tory party saying he won't be standing at the next election . the fylde mp the next election. the fylde mp was suspended following claims he used political donations to cover medical expenses and pay

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? study. eight minutes after 7 study. eight minutes after 5:00. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua welcome . if you've just tuned welcome. if you've just tuned in. where have you been? there's less than 21 minutes to go. but it's less than 21 minutes to go. but wsfime less than 21 minutes to go. but it's time now for the great british debate and british debate this hour. and i'm london i'm asking, has london become a no go zone forjewish people on no go zone for jewish people on the weekends? the the weekends? well, the government's extremism government's counter extremism commissioner has said london is a forjews during commissioner has said london is a for jews during the a no go zone for jews during the weekends on the pro—palestine marches . but march organisation marches. but march organisation organisers said that jewish people did not need to be scared of the events, which is ironic really , because that police guy really, because that police guy was telling that that jewish man that to go because that he needs to go because otherwise he was causing a bit of problem. for the great of a problem. so for the great british this hour, i'm british debate this hour, i'm asking, become no british debate this hour, i'm asizone become no british debate this hour, i'm asizone for become no british debate this hour, i'm asizone for jewish become no british debate this hour, i'm asizone forjewish people e no british debate this hour, i'm asizone forjewish people on no british debate this hour, i'm asizone forjewish people on the go zone for jewish people on the weekends? let's see our weekends? let's see what our panel make of that broadcast from danny and from journalist danny kelly and also author also broadcaster and author christine hamilton. right, danny kelly. >> listen , i think if you are

>> listen, i think if you are identifiably of the jewish faith and you feel that you don't want to be subjected to, you don't necessarily need to be subjected to violence, but it's just hostility, then that becomes a no go zone. i agree with the former bobby that it's up to you whether you believe that you're safe to go into parts of central london and if you don't feel safe, don't think it safe, and i don't think it should belittled this by by should be belittled this by by peter, said there's only peter, who said there's only been 36 charges. listen, that doesn't that you're not doesn't mean that you're not going to get screamed at venomously and people also need to understand that jews and i think people don't get this , but think people don't get this, but jews, synagogues, for example, have security , and have private security, and they've always had it. you know, there's a there's a nursing home for jews in birmingham that forjews in birmingham that my wife's his wife's grandfather spent his final had private final years. they had private security. if i was identifiably jewish, there are parts of birmingham i wouldn't want to walk through. there are parts of coventry i've driven from just on of coventry on the outskirts of coventry to come today. come here today. 96. >> always do every >> you always do this every show. miss that? show. do you ever miss that? >> is gb news. >> well, this is gb news. >> well, this is gb news.

>> not going on about >> this is not going on about the bbc. >> it's gb and the bbc. >> it's gb news and you've got a massive following the west massive following in the west midlands and if i was identifiably jewish, i wouldn't want through the want to walk through the foleshill charmer, isn't he the fox road area of the city? fox hill road area of the city? >> because you are going. there are unfortunately lot are unfortunately a lot of dumbasses in certain communities that cannot differentiate between and the faith of between zionism and the faith of judaism. >> apologies for the language there as well. >> forgive me if that was. >> forgive me if that was. >> was unacceptable, >> if that was unacceptable, maybe because just because you are mean you are jewish doesn't mean that you believe in zionism. >> and that is where the ignoramuses of certain communities, and that's why it becomes a no go zone. becomes a no 90 zone. >> becomes a no go zone. >> christine hamilton peter tatchell was completely wrong , tatchell was completely wrong, he said. i think he said there were been 37 incidents, one six charges, one of 36 charges. one of the reasons for that is because quite a lot of jews do not want to go outside. they stay their homes, so they stay in their homes, so they are prohibited from going outside. and know who and i know people who are jewish, people . their children jewish, people. their children no longer go to school with their blazers on because their school blazers on because they're frightened as they walk to so they in mufti

to school. so they go in mufti and they don't wear their skullcaps anymore. are skullcaps anymore. they are frightened be identified as frightened to be identified as jews, and that happening jews, and that to be happening in our capital city is a scandal. and it's shameful. and it shouldn't be happening. it shouldn't be allowed . but the shouldn't be allowed. but the reason it isn't there isn't more jewish people being being harassed is because they just don't. >> they don't come out. >> they don't come out. >> they don't come out. and >> they don't come out. and that is appalling. and especially women, , are less likely women, frankly, are less likely to they're to to and they're less likely to come the evening. but it come out in the evening. but it shouldn't happening. shouldn't be happening. >> the argument >> but what about the argument that, actually there's a lot of jewish people the protest? jewish people on the protest? this is what people keep saying. this is what people keep saying. this even james this is what even james schneider said. >> address that. okay. schneider said. >> so address that. okay. schneider said. >> so are ddress that. okay. schneider said. >> so are they;s that. okay. schneider said. >> so are they openly okay. schneider said. >> so are they openly jewish? >> so are they openly jewish? >> i mean, you are, i'm not >> i mean, if you are, i'm not going use the word openly. going to use the word openly. i'm identifiably i'm going to say identifiably identifiable. so if you're identifiably you're identifiable. so if you're identifiya ly you're identifiable. so if you're identifiya palestinian you're identifiable. so if you're identifiya palestinian flag u're identifiable. so if you're identifiya palestinian flag ,'re identifiable. so if you're identifiya palestinian flag , then waving a palestinian flag, then you're going to be okay because you're going to be okay because you're on their side. it's when you're on their side. it's when you're just walking with you're just walking around with your you just go and your kids and you just go and shopping waving shopping and you're not waving a pro—palestine you're pro—palestine flag, and you're not river to not singing from the river to the you're sound, you're the sea. so you're sound, you're okay you you're on that,

okay if you if you're on that, that you like , because that tribe, if you like, because it's you're on that side that tribe, if you like, because it':things, you're on that side that tribe, if you like, because it':things, then'e on that side that tribe, if you like, because it':things, then you're1at side that tribe, if you like, because it':things, then you're goinge of things, then you're going to be whether jew or be fine. whether you're a jew or not, you're waving the flag. >> that's what's wrong . it's >> so that's what's wrong. it's ridiculous. you've ridiculous. that's what you've got it? to get got to do, isn't it? to get through streets quickly through the streets quickly as take pro—palestine and take a pro—palestine flag and wave take a pro—palestine flag and wa\you'll through london. no problem. >> wave a jewish you've >> wave a jewish flag. you've probably well, probably got trouble. well, that's thing, it? that's the thing, isn't it? and even there jewish even if there are jewish people on flag , not a jewish on their flag, not a jewish israeli thank you. israeli flag. thank you. >> is wrong with being >> what is wrong with being identifiably jewish? nothing. nothing nothing wrong with being identifiably whatever you happen to unless of course, you're to be, unless of course, you're going through a pro—palestine march. >> well, if the copper had said identifiably jewish that that would more sense would have made more sense rather than openly. >> but these are just, you know, this is just semantics. semantics. may have like this is just semantics. se|spoke s. may have like this is just semantics. se|spoke in may have like this is just semantics. se|spoke in a may have like this is just semantics. se|spoke in a way/ have like this is just semantics. se|spoke in a way that e like this is just semantics. se|spoke in a way that peopleike he spoke in a way that people could catch on the words, but is i think meaning to i think his meaning was to protect . protect. >> i he meant well. >> i think he meant well. >> i think he meant well. >> meant well. i think >> he meant well. i think he meant he's to meant well. he's trying to protect know, but it's protect and, you know, but it's unfortunate is the unfortunate that this is the state affairs. this shows state of affairs. but this shows nothing and your nothing without you and your views. great views. let's welcome our great british there british voice. is there opportunity the show

opportunity to be on the show and what they think opportunity to be on the show and the what they think opportunity to be on the show and the topics they think opportunity to be on the show and the topics we're think about the topics we're discussing, right. how have about the topics we're dgot? sing, right. how have about the topics we're dgot? i've. right. how have about the topics we're dgot? i've got ht. how have about the topics we're dgot? i've got three w have about the topics we're dgot? i've got three of have about the topics we're dgot? i've got three of you. have i got? i've got three of you. i'm going to start with julie ford bedfordshire. ford in bedfordshire. julie >> yeah, i agree with ford in bedfordshire. julie >> panel yeah, i agree with ford in bedfordshire. julie >> panel . yeah, i agree with the panel. >> i think it's a case of it is getting scary out there now . and getting scary out there now. and if you're not waving the white flag or wearing the right badge, you're targeted wrongly, you're being targeted wrongly, i married jew , and i converted married a jew, and i converted to judaism to do that. i have many jewish friends , and i also many jewish friends, and i also worked in a jewish nursing home many years ago hampstead and many years ago in hampstead and it's a very closed community. judaism. keep ourselves to judaism. we keep ourselves to ourselves, and we don't tend to go the street and as go out in the street and be as vocal as some religions, vocal as some other religions, and now it's getting to and i think now it's getting to the point where we're scared to go the street, just in go out on the street, just in case we are identifiably jewish. and no and it's interesting that no other religion is depicted in that way, although some people who follow islam may say that they are targeted for wearing they are targeted for wearing the hijab or the burqa. >> so you know, potentially. alan cook, who's there in london? >> well, i think the current

situation is disgusting and it should, should be stopped. >> but you know, are we really surprised we've had 20 years of the met police wearing rainbow helmets, tiktok dancing and bending on their knees to marxists. >> so , you know, what is any >> so, you know, what is any different now? >> but at least on the positive side, it is election year. we can get a new london mayor and a new prime minister who are not globalists. you know, hopefully we'll get someone in that will put the uk and its citizens first. >> well, well, they would argue that they are doing that. you see what think see that's what they think they're right . let's they're doing. all right. let's go in hull. hello dan. go to dan in hull. hello dan. he's his back on. i got he's got his hat back on. i got them dan what do you think. hiya >> it's. since when. since when did this country. that historically, we've always been welcoming to most faiths. since. since when did it become all right to start attacking jews again? because there's one religion in this country that you're not allowed to say anything about without reprisals

or without being arrested, or without accused of being without being accused of being an islamophobe jews, as a gay man, jews don't want me dead. they don't want me arrested or thrown in prison. they have always lived peacefully and assimilated alongside the countries that they live in. what is the problem and where did it start going wrong. well, a lot of them would say potentially the bombing in gaza. but of course, not everybody who follows islam would would want you dead. and all those things that you said there. so certainly there are some who are extremists , but not not most extremists, but not not most people are pretty and people are pretty normal and straightforward. you so straightforward. thank you so much, my great british voice. it's really good to talk you. it's really good to talk to you. the julie. dan the fabulous julie. also, dan and you much for and alan, thank you so much for joining me. lovely to talk to you guys. thank you for your thoughts. have you thoughts. what have you just tuned welcome. it's tuned in. welcome. it's just coming the coming towards the end of the show. the way supplement show. but on the way supplement sunday with my panel and i talk about the news about some of the news stories that but that have caught their eye. but next, it fair that have caught their eye. but netell it fair that have caught their eye. but netell people it fair that have caught their eye. but netell people to it fair that have caught their eye. but netell people to lose it fair that have caught their eye. but netell people to lose weight? to tell people to lose weight? the welsh health minister thinks

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good afternoon. welcome. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. and it's time for our mini debate and a little story that caught my eye. well, a couple of stories. the welsh health who called health minister, who has called on weight in on people to lose weight in order combat nhs waiting order to help combat nhs waiting lists. she said the fact is that wales 60% of adults are overweight or obese and we spend 10% of our budget on diabetes, which is a direct relationship with people overweight. and if that continues on the trajectory that continues on the trajectory that we're on at the moment, then the system will become unsustainable . and we'll also unsustainable. and we'll also this welsh this comes as the welsh government interviewed government have also interviewed intervened. sorry on your driving speed. with the introduction of the default 20 mph speed limits across wales, which seem to be looking which doesn't seem to be looking that good. there's a lot of people are revolting, not literally they literally revolting. they are revolting. going revolting. oh god, i'm going to get sorts get myself in all sorts of trouble . joining now, trouble. joining me now, my panel

trouble. joining me now, my panel, kelly christine panel, danny kelly and christine hamilton . sorry, they're not hamilton. sorry, they're not revolting. people are you're not revolting. people are you're not revolting. you're revolting. oh, yeah. right. yeah. all right. >> wonder revolution >> well, i wonder revolution you're going to come to first to talk about obesity . talk about obesity. >> oh, did i say anything? i didn't even say anything. danny kelly. none >> i remember going to the doctors something doctors about something completely to being completely unrelated to me being fat. to me, he goes, fat. and he said to me, he goes, now dan, put now listen, dan, you've put weight on. and thought that weight on. and i thought that was and i was really proactive. and i thought good medicine, thought that was good medicine, not doctoring, because christine and i were talking about this. it's not you get nursing. yes, whatever. that's great advice. that's great being a good doctor. now, now, i've had a blood test recently. yes, just like and i have like a midlife thing. and i have nothing to worry about with diabetes. although i'm fat, i exercise regularly. okay? i've got great cholesterol . what got great cholesterol. what cholesterol? do i go on the exercise bike ? you're fat and exercise bike? you're fat and fit. fat and fit. yeah and i wouldn't have a problem. i know that the beauty of this station is that we can talk about things like this. you wouldn't get this at the beeb, and don't at the beeb, and i don't have a

problem people are fat problem with people who are fat being long as being called fat. as long as it's yeah. it's well—intentioned. yeah. >> endearing way where >> or an endearing way where it's like, oh, oh, look at him farting. >> it's all very well. you can call yourself fat, fit and fat, but if somebody else calls you fat, then they're fat shaming. this is what no , not this is what no, not necessarily, but not necessarily. >> no , no, because somebody >> no, no, because somebody might be telling you that for your your health to help you, but it's the intention of it. and that's not a shameful thing . and that's not a shameful thing. if you're overweight but you're happy are, then happy with who you are, then it's it's just how you. >> i'm not saying is >> i'm not saying it is shameful. i'm saying shameful. no, i know i'm saying it be misinterpreted it will be misinterpreted by other sometimes. >> deliberately. think >> yeah, deliberately. i think in a lot of shaming. >> and you do that. you >> and you can't do that. you can't ages and you can't do well. >> we can be honest here, no, i think minister think the health minister is absolutely tell think the health minister is abs(whaty tell think the health minister is abs(what shocks tell think the health minister is abs(what shocks me tell think the health minister is abs(what shocks me is tell think the health minister is abs(what shocks me is when you you what shocks me is when you go to a hospital, the number of nurses who are not just overweight, they are grossly overweight, they are grossly overweight . overweight. >> well, sometimes i've had that with a nutritionist who was telling how to eat, and telling me how to eat, and i thought , no, whatever you're thought, no, whatever you're

telling doesn't thought, no, whatever you're tellinif doesn't thought, no, whatever you're tellinif you're doesn't thought, no, whatever you're tellinif you're doing doesn't thought, no, whatever you're tellinif you're doing it.»esn't thought, no, whatever you're tellliif you're doing it.»esn't thought, no, whatever you're telli know,'re doing it.»esn't thought, no, whatever you're telli know, butioing it.»esn't thought, no, whatever you're telli know, but it ng it.»esn't thought, no, whatever you're telli know, but it isn't.»esn't thought, no, whatever you're telli know, but it isn't just 't >> i know, but it isn't just diabetes. it's wear and tear on your on your limbs, on your joints knows. joints and goodness knows. >> heart. >> and your heart. >> and your heart. >> what worries me that, >> and what worries me is that, i it's 90 something i think it's 90 something percent. i can't remember the figure, something like 96% of obese obese parents. >> i know. >> i know. >> and you see them walking down the street. you can see the waddling and waddling, waddling, and you see the fat children already shaping up to be fatty. >> it's really wrong. i think it's almost, almost a form of child if allow your child abuse. if you allow your your children, it's the biggest killer need educating i >> -- >> they need to learn how to cook properly anyway. >> well so let's move on >> well anyway. so let's move on to something. this sunday we could about all. i'm. could talk about this all. i'm. i'm looking i'm starving. i'm looking forward to eating a really nice cake. made me cake. a lovely lady made me a cake. a lovely lady made me a cake. a lovely lady made me a cake . and love cakes. right. cake. and i love cakes. right. but time for some but now it's time for some sunday my panel and i sunday when my panel and i discuss other news discuss some of the other news stories caught eye. stories that caught their eye. danny you danny christine, what have you got for me? >> well, we've discovered >> well, we've just discovered something rather embarrassing. >> we've both got >> your twins. we've both got the supplement. the same supplement. >> oh, on then. what? just as >> oh, go on then. what? just as well, you've only got a

well, because you've only got a minute. what? >> right. i'll start >> okay, right. well, i'll start this is news to me. >> i thought that was mine. >> i thought that was mine. >> isn't . it's mine. i asked >> it isn't. it's mine. i asked for it first, going to go first. >> ladies first. >> ladies first. >> this is a exeter university student. admittedly this was in 2018. he's only just. he felt rather ashamed about it, he said. and he was heard through the wall his room. he was the wall of his room. he was heard saying that veganism is wrong and that gender fluidity is stupid. and he was threatened with expulsion. he was ahead of his time. >> that was six years ago. well he was a prophet, this kid. he was he's a prophet, this kid. he it just to he really. and it just goes to show you how cheap buildings show you how cheap the buildings are. walls, honestly . are. the thin walls, honestly. planning applications, modern, modern builds that you can hear people going to the toilet, flushing the toilet next door. that's modern builds. everything's so cheaply, he says. he's six foot five 5 >> he's six foot five with a deep intonation his voice deep intonation and his voice carries without him. >> there you go. yep yep yep, he says. >> it was like the stasi had come to him. you imagine it come to him. you can imagine it like had come to my like the stasi had come to my doon like the stasi had come to my door. stuck foot in the door. he stuck his foot in the door. he stuck his foot in the door you've been door and said, you've been saying offensive things. >> about

w" >> how about you've been overhearing or eavesdropping in my conversation now it's unclear off on freedom of speech can now mean so little. >> it's shocking. >> it's shocking. >> well, in scotland you'd be arrested. you would. would you be arrested? >> even exeter university was approached comment, but did approached for comment, but did not respond. >> interesting well, >> interesting stuff. well, you both great minds. think both have great minds. think alike. tell them that honestly , alike. tell them that honestly, that wasn't a set up. >> everybody completely genuine. we both chose the same one. >> yes, as i said, i'll say it again . again. >> but he was ahead of his time. that was six years ago. >> crazy yes. right. >> yes. crazy yes. right. well, listen, show, we've listen, on today's show, we've been asking, is it time for the uk to build an iron dome? and according to our twitter poll, 74% of you said yes. not surprising at all. of course. it's time to build an iron dome. it's time to build an iron dome. it's time to build an iron dome. it's time for us to sort out our army and everything else that comes it. 24% of you said comes with it. 24% of you said no, i've got, say, a massive thank you to my brilliant panellists, broadcaster and journalist danny kelly. thank you much, danny . and also

you so much, danny. and also broadcaster and author christine hamilton . thank you so much, hamilton. thank you so much, christine. >> pleasure nana as always to be with you and danny. >> and also a huge thank you to you at home for your company. it's been a pleasure as ever. i look forward to seeing you next week. time, same place. but week. same time, same place. but next neil oliver. but now next it's neil oliver. but now i'll leave you with the . weather. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news. >> good afternoon. welcome to your latest gb news weather from the met office. so after another sunny day for most of us, there is a further cloud and rain on the way, all thanks to an area of low pressure well up to the north uk. but bringing north of the uk. but bringing these systems that north of the uk. but bringing thes sink systems that north of the uk. but bringing thes sink their systems that north of the uk. but bringing thes sink their way systems that north of the uk. but bringing thes sink their way southwards at will sink their way southwards through the day. we will sink their way southwards thr still the day. we will sink their way southwards thr still have the day. we will sink their way southwards thrstill have high the day. we will sink their way southwards thrstill have high pressure. we do still have high pressure around, that's slowly slips do still have high pressure arountowardsiat's slowly slips do still have high pressure arountowards the slowly slips do still have high pressure arountowards the northwest,»s do still have high pressure arountowards the northwest, so away towards the northwest, so the skies through the the cloudier skies through the rest of today, definitely for

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