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gb news. >> good afternoon to you. and a very happy monday. it's 3 pm. >> welcome to the martin daubney show on gb news. >> broadcasting live from the heart of westminster. all across the uk. coming up on today's show, no ifs , no buts. these show, no ifs, no buts. these flights are going to rwanda today. the prime minister talked tough on immigration in saying the first flights will take off within 12 weeks. but the big question is can rwanda save rishi or will it sink mr sunak .7 rishi or will it sink mr sunak.7 next up, metropolitan chief sir mark rowley is fighting for his career after one of his officers threatened to arrest an openly jewish protester. rishi sunak called it appalling. is it time
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for london's top cop to get the chop? for london's top cop to get the chop.7 next up, tony blair has admitted that labour must reset its relationship by negotiating closer political ties and trading with the european union if it wins the next general election, can labour be trusted on brexit.7 and who's calling the shots? sir on brexit? and who's calling the shots? sir keir starmer also, tony blair and meghan markle's in a bit of a pickle over her new designer jam because one of meghan's celebrity chums was photographed at her hollywood mansion with a jar of the stuff, which has been variously labelled as an advert for happiness or embarrassing. and that's all coming up now. between now and 6 pm. once the show always a delight to have your company. hope you had a fantastic weekend. we've got a huge week ahead, starting with this crucial commons crunch.
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rishi sunak has threatened to lock them all up for the evening until they vote the rwanda bill through . he said the flights through. he said the flights will take off within 12 weeks, but will that happen? do you believe him or is this a multi multi—million dollar pound, even white elephant? will those flights ever get off the ground? christopher hope, our political edhon christopher hope, our political editor, has got a pint of beer down as a bat with the with the prime minister. he doesn't think the flights will get off. i think his beer might be safe. let us know your thoughts. you're the most important people on this show. send your views or post your comments by visiting gbnews.com/yoursay. get stuck in. i'll read out a bunch before the end of the show, but before that, it's time for your latest news headlines . news headlines. >> 2:03. good afternoon. i'm ray addison in the gb newsroom. our top stories. an anti—semitism campaigner who was threatened
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with arrest at a pro—palestine rally , has told gb news that the rally, has told gb news that the chief of the met police should resign. gideon falter, who is the chief exec of the campaign against anti—semitism, was described as openly jewish by officers and told that his presence at a pro—palestine demo was provocative of mr falter, says the home secretary should remove sir mark rowley from his post. >> the met police commissioner has failed to use his powers to curtail or ban these protests, and now we've got a situation where, very regrettably , we are where, very regrettably, we are seeing , the, the, the, the met seeing, the, the, the, the met commissioner has failed completely and change has to come from the top . so what i'd come from the top. so what i'd really like the home secretary to be saying to the commissioner today is resign or you're fired . today is resign or you're fired. >> well, as we've been hearing, the prime minister says the first flight to rwanda will leave in 10 to 12 weeks time.
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speaking at a press conference, rishi sunak slammed labour peers for trying to stop the controversial legislation. mr sunak said that an airfield is now on standby and what's more , now on standby and what's more, 150 judges are ready to deal with any legal cases quickly. his comments come ahead of a crunch vote tonight on the government's safety of rwanda bill. >> for almost two years, our opponents have used every trick in the book to block flights and keep the boats coming. but enoughis keep the boats coming. but enough is enough . no more enough is enough. no more prevarication, no more delay . prevarication, no more delay. parliament will sit there tonight and vote, no matter how late it goes. no ifs, no buts. these flights are going to rwanda. we are going to deliver this indispensable deterrent so that we finally break the business model of the criminal gangs and save lives. >> but shadow home secretary yvette cooper is rejecting the idea that labour is to blame for the delay.
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>> well, the government has an overall majority in parliament and could have passed this bill and could have passed this bill a month ago if they'd scheduled it then. but as we know, rishi sunak always looks for someone else to blame. this is costing the taxpayer half £1 billion for a scheme that will only cover 1% of asylum seekers. this is an extortionate scheme. they should be putting that money into boosting our border security instead. that is what labour would do. >> huw edwards has resigned from his position at the bbc. the news presenter was the broadcaster's highest paid star, but he's been off air since last july amid newspaper reports that he paid someone for intimate images. his departure comes after what the bbc described as medical advice . a car has medical advice. a car has crashed into a school in liverpool shortly before 830 this morning. a white mercedes hit a wall and ended up inside a classroom at the beacon primary
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school in everton. merseyside police say that no children were present at the time of the incident. the female driver was assessed at the scene . her assessed at the scene. her passenger sustained a minor injury. the school has been closed for the day and the building will be assessed for structural damage . two men have structural damage. two men have been charged with spying for china. christopher berry, who is 32 years old, and 29 year old christopher cash have been charged with offences under the official secrets act that follows an investigation by the met's counter—terrorism command. both have been bailed to appear at westminster magistrates court on friday. the met is describing these allegations as very serious . a student whose serious. a student whose stepfather set up a hidden camera in her bedroom just after she turned 18 years old, is calling for tougher sentences for voyeurism offences. 48 year old paul selwood was handed just 22 months in prison after he
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filmed her naked did by setting up a camera in her teddy bears. catherine simpson is now 21. she says no one believed her when she raised concerns about sexually suggestive behaviour. she's now launched a government petition which calls for an increase in maximum sentences for sex offences . the number of for sex offences. the number of people dying due to alcohol related causes is at a record high. misuse of alcohol increased rapidly at the start of the pandemic as, according to the ons, experts say the new figures show that a there is a continuation of that trend with deaths a third higher last year compared to 2019. among those drinking too much liver disease , drinking too much liver disease, that's the leading cause of death, with rates much higher among men. alcohol change uk says it's the result of years of government inaction . for the government inaction. for the latest stories, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr
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code on the right of your screen right now, or go to gb news. common shirts back now to . martin. >> thank you ray. now no ifs , no >> thank you ray. now no ifs, no buts. these flights are going to rwanda. those were the words of the prime minister earlier on today, after he admitted that he will miss his self—imposed spnng will miss his self—imposed spring target for getting the rwanda scheme literally off the ground. well, mps and peers will sit in parliament to debate the safety of rwanda bill today , safety of rwanda bill today, after weeks of parliamentary ping after weeks of parliamentary ping pong and back and forth. and rishi sunak has criticised the labour party, saying they've continually blocked his bill. >> talking to you now and it's april. why? because labour peers in the house of lords have repeatedly voted against and blocked this bill. that happened just last week. again it will happen again today and i think it's crystal clear that the
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country believes this is a priority. i have been clear from the first day that i got this job that it's the priority for me to stop the boats, and that's why i'm talking to you today about all the prep work that has gonein about all the prep work that has gone in behind the scenes, and why i'm confident about our delivery going forward. >> well, the shadow home secretary, yvette cooper, said the rwanda plan simply will not work and it's costing us half £1 billion. >> well, the government has an overall majority in parliament and could have passed this bill and could have passed this bill a month ago if they'd scheduled it then. but as we know, rishi sunak always looks for someone else to blame. this is costing the taxpayer half £1 billion for a scheme that will only cover 1% of asylum seekers. this is an extortionate scheme. they should be putting that money into boosting our border security instead. that is what labour would do. >> but would you scrap the scheme even if it's shown to be working well, you have a scheme thatis
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working well, you have a scheme that is costing the british taxpayer a half £1 billion. >> only to cover around 300 people. more people arrived in a weekend than that on small boats, so this is an extortionate scheme that has failed , just like the previous failed, just like the previous two laws that the conservatives have passed on this. and it's why neither the current home secretary nor the former home secretary nor the former home secretary think this is actually going to work. >> well, as discussed, the prime minister says that flights will take off in 10 to 12 weeks. but gb news presenter nigel farage just doesn't believe him. >> just as david cameron talked, tough . if you come here tough. if you come here illegally, you won't be allowed to stay. theresa may if you come here illegally, you won't be allowed to stay. boris johnson if you come here illegally, you won't be allowed to stay. and just over two years ago, of course, we had the speech at lydd airport down in kent telling us about the rwanda plan. we're two years on, we've spent at least £160 million so far. not sent a single human
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being. and what happens is, every time rishi sunak speaks on this subject, he raises the rhetoric , he raises the rhetoric, he raises the rhetoric, he raises the rhetoric, and he does so, of course, because public anger is so great, the sense of injustice and unfairness. do i believe that in 10 to 12 weeks time, there'll be planes taking off with significant numbers of migrants on board? no, i don't well, and the big question now is quite simply, can rwanda save rishi sunak or will it sink mr sunak? >> well, i'm joined in our studio now by our political edhon studio now by our political editor, christopher hope. chris, welcome to the studio. and it's not often i say this, chris, but show us your medals. >> are you sure? martin i wasn't going to bring it up, but of course it's in my pocket. >> i did run the london marathon, yesterday. there it is. >> that's chris as london marathon medal. yeah, it's all, it's all it's all solid. >> yeah, yeah. no and george yesterday was a amazing moment. gb news viewers also were very generous raising about a couple of thousand quid over the weekend. yeah. when i was on talking about it with my two older children, barnaby and sapphire, we raised for money
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scope. yeah. so it's a great thing. >> and you're still just about hobbung >> and you're still just about hobbling along a bit like rishi sunak. yes. so let's get on the rwanda plan 10 to 12 weeks. you had that bet, of course, famously a single pint of beer looks like you. looks like you'd be a safe. looks like you've one beer safe for the may 2nd election. >> he, of course , is saying the >> he, of course, is saying the first flights won't take off for 10 to 12 weeks. that's in the summer. he has said. by 10 to 12 weeks. that's in the summer. he has said . by the summer. he has said. by the spring, which ended june 21st, now is looking like the middle to the end of july for the first flights taking off. if it all goes through tonight in the house of lords, so briefly where we are now is, the commons is getting ready for a marathon sitting tonight with the house of lords. the commons meet at 6 pm. to overturn , two amendments pm. to overturn, two amendments to the rwanda plan from the house of lords, one, a ban on afghans from who served the uk forces being deported to rwanda. secondly, regular checks on whether rwanda is a safe country assuming the commons. and they probably will do reverse those two amendments to the lords. it goes back to the lords at 10 pm. the lords then decide whether to accept that or send it back to the commons. if so, it's a midnight sitting for the house of commons. they then
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review it, then mps will then say once again, we are the elected house. you aren't therefore we reject these two amendments and then the laws must decide. they want to have another vote at 2 am. and it goes back to the commons at 4 am. so it's a very, very long night . night. >> and chris, most of the lords have trouble staying awake at 2 pm, let alone two. p.m, let alone two. >> don't be rude, martin. >> don't be rude, martin. >> but on a serious matter, rishi sunak is talking to murphy , saying the airfield is ready. charter planes, already 500 staff and rising are ready and if necessary, you are going to sit down all night until i get my way. the big question is this all hot air? >> well, it's not on his on his account. i was listening to yvette cooper quite closely. she had a very good point. a month ago, before easter, there were 3 or 4 days of parliaments parliamentary business, when they could have pushed this through in the same vigour. they're doing it now. why didn't they use the extra month they had as yvette cooper says, the labouris had as yvette cooper says, the labour is very clear it won't work. the tories say it will work. the tories say it will work. i think the lessons they
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take away from today are the fact that now planning for first flights, taking off in july says to me no june election and probably no july election because the pm there said no ifs, no buts. the flights are going to rwanda. he wants a regular rhythm of flights and i think you only get a regular rhythm over a long period of time. what they want to happen in the government is for you and l, in the government is for you and i, you and me, to stop talking about it. just know in passing . about it. just know in passing. two more flights took off for rwanda today with 300 illegal migrants . they want it to be migrants. they want it to be a routine part of the of life. here we deport people to rwanda . here we deport people to rwanda. and once that is seen by people waiting to cross from france, they won't want to come once it's seen by the electorate as well. >> quickly, chris, if we can presently about 19 points behind all of the aggregate of the opinion polls, will rwanda get rishi sunak that shot in the arm, the believability that actually finally he can deliver on this? >> he could do, but time is running out. i think the election is going to be mid november to get this rhythm of flights taking off. you're going to be looking into september,
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october, so will so what the tories want is to get a degree of showing that it works and then say to the electorate and guess what, the labour will act. this plan, even though it's working . seb gorka. working. seb gorka. >> so thank you forjoining us. >> so thank you for joining us. a marathon political session now joined by the immigration barrister paul turner, paul , barrister paul turner, paul, welcome to the show. so paul, of course, rishi talking tough. these flights will leave the airfields ready . the charter airfields ready. the charter planes already. the staff are ready. he's going to have an all night session if necessary. i guess the next point is legally, will the mischief then begin ? as will the mischief then begin? as we saw with brexit? will this go to various courts? will it ever be allowed literally to get off the ground ? the ground? >> well, martin, i think that that is, i think that's exactly what's going to happen, is that, i think a lot of the people that oppose this plan, and i do myself on the fact that i think it's unworkable and inhumane , it's unworkable and inhumane, but a lot of other people, charities included, are itching to get started with the challenges. and i think it's worth bearing in mind that they
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will start on two bases. the first are going to be individual challenges that individuals can make when the bill is being passed . they have allowed people passed. they have allowed people to bring challenges based on their personal circumstances. and i would imagine that most people are going to be bringing challenges based on their personal circumstances , which is personal circumstances, which is going to tie up quite a bit of court time. i know the government have said that, they're going to deal with them within 45 days, and they've got 150 judges lined up to deal with them . but it remains to be seen them. but it remains to be seen whether the court process will actually get through them . also, actually get through them. also, in respect of the individual cases , rishi sunak seems to be cases, rishi sunak seems to be prejudging what the courts are going to do. the courts might find that the individuals can't be removed, in which case that's going to provide the first bar. but perhaps the biggest bar and the most challenging for the government relates to the echr. it is almost inconceivable that there will not be a further challenge to the european court
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of human rights. now, on the last occasion, the echr stopped the plane, it is, i would say, highly likely, given that there's no evidence that the situation has changed on the ground in rwanda in any meaningful way, that the echr will issue what's called the rule 39, which essentially is the injunction on the issue then is and this is a, a quite a constitutional issue in respect of the uk's obligations , of the uk's obligations, international obligations is whether that's ignored or not. and that remains to be seen. if rishi sunak does ram through the appeals and choose to ignore the european court of human rights, then it is conceivable that flights may get off the ground. but at what cost to the uk's international reputation? martin. >> well , martin. >> well, paul, it sounds like the lawyers are already licking their lips to make sure it's definitely not chocks away. and i've got chris hope in the studio here, our political edhon studio here, our political editor. he'd like to fire a question at you. hi paul. >> yeah, i'm with martin in the
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studio just to ask you very quickly. is it realistic for the pm to say he will ignore a foreign court in this case, the strasbourg court, if he tries to frustrate these flights taking off? is that even possible ? off? is that even possible? >> in theory it is. but it would be a step too far. there's never been a case where the uk government has ignored a rule 39, interim relief application to stop somebody being removed from the united kingdom . we from the united kingdom. we would be in we would be out with the rest of, the other members of the council of europe that are signed up to the echr. so it would be a massive step , are signed up to the echr. so it would be a massive step, and but given the state of rishi sunak popularity at the moment, perhaps it's a gamble he wishes to take. >> well, paul turner, the french have ignored the echr the polish have ignored the echr the polish have done the same, hungary has. and so has italy. it remains to be seen whether rishi sunak has the stomach for that fight. if it comes to that. paul turner, immigration barrister, thank you for joining us on the show and forjoining us on the show and giving us your expert insights as ever. great stuff. now it's
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welcome back. your time is 323. i'm martin daubney , and this is gb martin daubney, and this is gb news. now, here's a question for you. are the tories toast? well, after almost 14 years in government, it seems that the pubucis government, it seems that the public is sick and tired of what is, to be honest, a sick and
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tired party. well, sir keir starmer's labour party have a lead now of more than 20 points in most of the aggregated opinion polls, though of course it must be said that many, many people look set to vote labour not because they want sir keir starmer to be prime minister, but because they're simply not the tory party. are people simply ready for a change, any kind of change? and to repeat the question of the tories toast. well, i'm joined now by mark littlewood, who's a director of the popular conservatives and a political commentator seller who got it right this time. let's start with you , mark, rwanda, dramatic with you, mark, rwanda, dramatic talk today. these flights will take off the staff are ready, the planes are ready. the runways are already talking. tough vote all night if need be. could this be the lifeline rishi sunak needs? well all of those things might be ready. >> but as we've already heard on your program , the lawyers are your program, the lawyers are ready to. >> that's the only thing that will gum it up. not the
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practical side of it. but you know what? it could be you ask, are the tories toast? i think not, but it's true to say there's quite a lot of singeing around the edges, to put it mildly . what the prime minister mildly. what the prime minister is looking for, i think, isn't i don't think he believes there's one single policy that can immediately overnight close a gap of 20% in the opinion polls. he's just looking for something that might lead to a tick up. the tories are consistently at 20, 25. that sort of range . if 20, 25. that sort of range. if something could just move them up to, let's say hi , 20, 30% of up to, let's say hi, 20, 30% of the vote, that would start to look like momentum, albeit from a low base. so i don't think there's anybody in the conservative party who thinks this can be turned around, even if the rwanda policy gets off the ground, that won't suddenly smash labour's lead in the polls. but it might just be some momentum. and the conservatives have been flatlining in the polls for months now, and that will do for sunak at the moment. if he can just get that little bit of an upward tick. >> isn't that amazing that any form of life is seen as a good
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thing has to be said, though, stella, we've spoken from everybody from sir keir starmer downwards in the labour party. they've been quite guarded. they're not taking it as a given that they've got this in the bag . but can a miracle occur? can these flights take off? can the tories get an uptick or do you think this is a fait accompli now? >> it is in the character of keir starmer as a leader to be cautious for sure, and to have this very, very professional outlook . outlook. >> but i think rishi sunak is looking extremely desperate . looking extremely desperate. he's looked desperate for some time now and this look doesn't inspire confidence for the average voter. people who cared about rwanda, which i think the numbers are diminishing, have already decided they will be voting for reform and that's what they will be doing whenever the next election comes. now, my opinion with rishi sunak with dragging this rwanda policy for this long and trying to convince the voters that, listen, i'm totally going to get these planes, it's going to be great. this rwanda plan is going to work. it's going to solve our asylum problems . to me, it looks asylum problems. to me, it looks asylum problems. to me, it looks a bit like, you know, when you're asking someone out and
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you're asking someone out and you're trying and they come back to you and they say, no, i don't want to date you, you're not fit enough for me. and then you spend the next two months going to the gym, dieting, trying to exercise, and trying to convince them, no, no, i am fit enough. please date me. >> say you lose ten kilos, say you have a six pack and you go back to that person and you say, will you please date me now? >> am i good looking enough for you now? do you think they're going to say yes? no you have completely put them off. they can see through it. it reeks of lack of confidence. >> i joined a gym this morning. what's the point of that? on a on a serious point, suella braverman today refused to con dem refuse to back rishi, saying that it's time to change leadership basically. of course, liz truss popcorn's favourite in the wings to a lot of criticism going on. is it time for a last ditch change of the man up top, or is it simply too late? mark, i don't know. >> i mean, certainly liz truss made made plain from america yesterday. she she doesn't want to see a change in in prime
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minister. i think suella has said much the same as well. you can only spin the wheel so often . right. we have had five conservative prime ministers in a row now. i think that's the most since democracy began . and most since democracy began. and i think the idea i mean, it was william hague who said that the conservative party is a dictatorship tempered by regicide, that you occasionally throw your leader but over the top. but i unless there's monumental evidence that doing that would suddenly lead to a huge boost in the polls, and i've seen no such evidence, i don't think you'll find sufficient conservative mps who are willing to throw the dice yet again. >> is that i mean, you're saying that rishi sunak simply isn't fit enough? is there somebody else that might woo the voters? somebody else might have a six pack, but they might have the right solutions, be a bit sexier in terms of actually being conservative. >> i think that the damage is already done because everyone as well is looking at the party and they're thinking, this is a completely divided party. >> who am i exactly voting for? so even if there is a changing of the guards, i don't think that the voters will be
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confident enough about what the conservative party stands for, because the people that the other, most of the other potential leaders could woo have already decided they are voting for reform. say suella braverman, for example, gets the lead . why would someone who lead. why would someone who wants to vote for the reform party and they're already convinced this is the place for them, go back to a conservative party that's being led by suella braverman, but is still constitutes of all the other mps. and also bear in mind that come the next election, the conservative party will which will have extremely diminished numbers. so the makeup of the party is going to change massively. >> but i think the key thing about reform, we don't know, i don't agree with you that those who are saying they are voting reform have absolute vie and for certain made their mind up. we often see third parties spike in the opinion polls and then when the opinion polls and then when the election comes, actually people revert to type. and i would have thought the sensible conservative strategy is to target those that we have lost to reform. >> but how do they do that? i
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mean, rwanda's one way, rwanda is one way, i think. >> yeah. i mean, immigration is definitely a key issue in how you're going to tackle it. and if you're seen to be impotent on that, then i could see the reform vote sticking . i think reform vote sticking. i think that they've got to continue the road back from carbon net zero. rishi sunak made a couple of steps in that direction, but delays more than u—turns . i delays more than u—turns. i think that would be a good start. and i think they've got to do something to get taxes down. they've tried a minimal thing with national insurance. i think that was insufficient . and think that was insufficient. and if they're going to get taxes down, they've got to find some way of getting spending down as well. i'm not saying that's a silver bullet. i'm not saying that magic's everything away and reform falls by the wayside. but the starting point has got to be to win back those supporters that you've lost to a very new upstart third party credit to reform. they've done a very good job at getting voters, but i don't think those voters are unwinnable. back and in the heat of a general election, really, the choice is going to be whether you want a conservative government or a labour one. and that tends to benefit the two major parties. when you finally go into the polling station,
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okay, we have to leave it there. >> thank you very much, mark. and a superb start to the show, and we'll have more from you guys throughout the show. thank you very much for joining us. you very much forjoining us. i love that nice little panel to start the show with. there's lots more still to come between now and 4:00 and a day before saint george's day. i'll be asking, what does it mean to be engush asking, what does it mean to be english and how come it suddenly got so political? but first, it's got so political? but first, wsfime got so political? but first, it's time for your latest news headlines. and it's that man ray addison . addison. >> that's right. it's 331. our top stories this hour. an anti—semitism campaigner who was threatened with arrest at a pro—palestine rally has told gb news that the chief of the met police should resign. gideon falter, who is the ceo of campaign against anti semitism, was described as openly jewish by officers and told that his presence at a pro—palestine demonstration was provocative. mr falter told us that the home secretary should remove sir mark rowley from his post at the met.
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>> police commissioner has failed to use his powers to curtail or ban these protests . curtail or ban these protests. and now we've got a situation where, very regrettably, we are seeing, the, the, the, the met commissioner has failed completely and change has to come from the top. so what i'd really like the home secretary to be saying to the commissioner today is resign or you're fired . today is resign or you're fired. >> and the prime minister says the first flight to rwanda will leave in 10 to 12 weeks time. speaking at a press conference, rishi sunak slammed labour peers for trying to stop the controversial legislation. mr sunak said that an airfield is on standby and 150 judges are ready to deal with any legal cases quickly. his comments come ahead of a crunch vote tonight on the safety of rwanda bill. huw edwards has resigned from his position at the bbc. the news presenter was the
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soak it up? because their own ineptitude. >> okay, the first thing to say, martin, is this is still pending. this is like a public, display of what thames water wants to happen , but off what? wants to happen, but off what? the regulator hasn't yet accepted it. thames water was privatised in 1989. it serves, believe it or not, 27% of uk households , largely in london households, largely in london and the south east, as the name suggests. so what's actually going on? well, i've got on the money graphic for you, martin, because i know you'd feel short changed otherwise. so what, thames water have said publicly , thames water have said publicly, they've said they're proposing proposing to invest £18.7 billion from 2025 to 20 24 to 2030. that's in repairing pipes and, you know, beach sewage and all this stuff . that's really all this stuff. that's really been annoying people over recent years tackling our decrepit victorian water infrastructure. if they do that investment,
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though, they're saying to the regulator they want a 40% rise in bills over the next five years, over and above inflation, an enormous rise in your household water bill off what which is the regulator which are meant to have consumer households on their, you know , households on their, you know, they're meant to support them, have rejected , the thames water have rejected, the thames water proposal and a final off, what decision is expected on the 23rd of may. so what we've got now is a kind of three way mexican standoff , if you like, with standoff, if you like, with apologies to all our mexican viewers and listeners, it's a it's a it's a turn of phrase, isn't it ? and you've got, thames isn't it? and you've got, thames water on one point of the triangle, you've got the government on another , and government on another, and you've got off.what on the other. and thames water are basically saying to the government, unless you give us more money, then we're going to basically blow ourselves up before the election. and you're going to look really stupid and
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everyone's going to blame you, and they're going to blame privatised ation. where's all the money for thames water gone over recent years? well, much of it has been paid out in dividends to not just shareholders, pension funds, insurance companies and so on, but also dividends to overblown in my view, management teams over many years . and that's over many years. and that's where the money has gone. and as somebody who broadly supports , somebody who broadly supports, you know, free market solutions, who broadly supports a sort of pro—business agenda like yourself, i'm sure when you get situations like this where in my view , again, it's opinion, but view, again, it's opinion, but an informed one, i like to think where the taxpayer slash households are being fleeced over many years. then this looks like privatisation gone wrong. this gives, in my view , again, this gives, in my view, again, it's an opinion. thames water would deny this in my professional opinion. i think this gives business a bad name. this kind of behaviour totally right and it may add to the fuel to the fire for people saying that they should be renationalised. i think that could well happen in the run up
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to the election or soon after. and that's why thames water are doing this. they're basically saying to the government, you know, we're going to do something for which you will get the blame. we're going to sort of declare ourselves skint or we're going to the whole thing is going to break down. already thames water has started like not paying certain bills, as if it's like, you know , staging a it's like, you know, staging a potential bankruptcy. again, they will deny all of this. i should be clear, this is an opinion though. i like to think an informed one. but for my money, having paid out so many billions in dividends over so many years , having racked up many years, having racked up a £250 million pension deficit, lots and lots of debt, as you say, on top of the pension deficit , and yet now they want deficit, and yet now they want taxpayers to bail them out and households to bail them out. >> another story in the news today, liam, one very close to the heart of gb news viewers. de—banking been a huge spike in the number of people reporting that they've been kicked out by the bank. >> well , it's
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the bank. >> well, it's interesting because it's not people reporting, it's firms. and that's a crucial distinction. why are we talking about this today? because the financial ombudsman service has released a new data showing complaints. and yet again , as if by magic, we've yet again, as if by magic, we've got a gb news on the money graphic . so got a gb news on the money graphic. so what do we got a gb news on the money graphic . so what do we know? we graphic. so what do we know? we know that the financial ombudsman service has reported this sharp rise in complaints from firms. 3900 firms raised concerns to the ombudsman about their accounts being frozen or closed during the year to the beginning of april . that's up beginning of april. that's up from 2700 over the previous 12 months. that's a 44% increase in complaints about de—banking. you know , not least i would say know, not least i would say because of gb news slash nigel farage highlighting this issue. 36% of complaints were upheld. complaints from firms over the last year by the ombudsman. so the ombudsman agreed that there was a genuine grievance. and that's up from 30. so the
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ombudsman two seems to be getting with the program a little bit more, if for your money, the program is that it's unfair that firms and indeed individuals are being de—banking, as indeed nigel farage was. >> and how much of this do you think, liam, is that that farage effect , the gb news effect? effect, the gb news effect? people are seeing this publicly for the first time. nigel farage was taunted over his views on his politics. he was branded xenophobic by coots and of course, you know, barrage the farage. he stood up to him and it went public. does that signal boost people coming in? >> i think there's something in that. i don't think it's just sort of, you know, glorifying our colleague or gb news to say that. i think gb news did definitely put this issue on the map. look, if you're in a pub with some small business owner and he or she said, you know what, the banks, they took my account away. yeah. you'd say, oh, really? i mean, you you'd believe them , but not really. believe them, but not really. you'd probably forget it. but when it's on a campaign , on when it's on a campaign, on a national television station and
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somebody as high profile as nigel farage is being debunked, then it's going to pique people's interest. and those who've gone through something similar are going to feel empowered, aren't they? to then appeal to the financial ombudsman? but look what happened with nigel farage. in my view, again, natwest and coots will have a different story, but i think personally it was a disgrace . he whatever you was a disgrace. he whatever you think of his political views, he's taken two parties, two separate parties in this country to national election victories in, albeit in european parliamentary elections. but they're still national elections. no one in history has done that ever. so you can't say he's not, you know, a democratically elected person or has been a democratically elected person. and yet it's clear that coots, the rather kind of snooty pukka bank that owns by natwest. they said they leaked that they'd debunked him because he didn't have enough money, which turned out to be nonsense . they they debunked nonsense. they they debunked him, as a memo showed after his lawyers did a subject access inquiry, that they didn't like
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the cut of his political jib. and that was there in black and white as it goes. and i wonder how many other people have done these subjects access inquiries, or at least how many firms have done these other public access inquiries, because this is the important thing at a time when the banks are retreating from the banks are retreating from the high street, at a time when the high street, at a time when the high street banks, in my view, again, they'll have a different view. are are basically abandoning what's called a universal service obugafion. called a universal service obligation . if you have a obligation. if you have a banking license, which basically lets you create slash print money, you're meant to be, you're meant to give anyone with a with a fixed abode, with an address, an account, if they if they want one. but how many individuals have, submitted these subject access inquiries to understand why they were de—banking? because i suspect many of these small businesses, many of these small businesses, many of these people would de—banking not because the bank had any legitimate concerns about their source of funds or whether there was corruption. of course, some people will be in that category, but many of the small businesses will have been
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debunked, in my view. again, the banks will say different simply because they weren't financially interesting enough for the banks and the banks thought they could make more money trying to sell services rather than providing bafic services rather than providing basic banking services, which they should do as per their banking licenses. >> fascinating stuff as ever. liam halligan, thank you for joining me in the studio today. brilliant now, apparently sir keir starmer will get kids doing more pe in schools under a labour government. this is the topic that i'm very passionate about because it really helps young boys to concentrate in the classroom, a standby to hear my views on martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel .
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ground. now, of course, you know saint george's day tomorrow. and of course, as here @gbnews we'll be celebrating it properly. if you saw the show last week, you will know how proud i am that my home city of nottingham, look at it, has got the biggest saint george's cross on display in the city centre in the entire country, 62 foot. that whopper is. and today it's been reported that sir keir starmer will tell his shadow cabinet that team games and national pride are a force for good in england's schools. i'm rejoined now by the political commentator stella kyriakides and mark littlewood, who's a director, of course, of the popular conservative stella. let's start with you. call me a cynic. this feels like 1997. it feels like we're the patriots , feels like we're the patriots, governor. honest. no. cor blimey, is it the right thing for the labour party to do? one eighth of the voters think that saint george's cross is racist. i think you've answered your own question. >> so you have just admitted
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that the labour party has not just come up with the fact that we are patriotic . they've been we are patriotic. they've been saying this all along. they've been saying this for decades. they've always been patriotic. it's just that the rest of the country didn't always notice. so i think what keir starmer is doing is making sure the country knows he's on their side. i think there is nothing wrong with that . regarding the stat with that. regarding the stat that you just gave me , there was that you just gave me, there was this article on the on the times about this teacher who asked their students, how many of you hate your country and about a third of them raised their hands and said, yes, we hate we hate the uk, which i think it sounds very sad , but at the same time, very sad, but at the same time, when you ask people questions like that, you will usually get that kind of answer. i think people are just reacting or they're just saying what they think they're expected to say , think they're expected to say, which is, oh yes, sure, i hate i hate my country. >> martin lord, it does feel a bit 1997. it feels a bit things can only get better. all that's missing is dream. and tony blair. >> yeah, well. but sir keir starmer will be hoping so .
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starmer will be hoping so. right. he's hoping for a 1997. the more it feels like 1997, the happier keir starmer will be. look there's an awful lot of word salad in what starmer has said here. it's not really obvious how he believes this patriotism should be expressed, other than not sneering at the flag . and then i think he flag. and then i think he mentions the national health service as an element of patriotism . that's a bit bizarre patriotism. that's a bit bizarre in my mind. the national health service is just a function . but service is just a function. but i would say this what it is tactically, despite what, has just been said, this is an effort to decarbonise the labour party. the previous leader of the labour party often gave the very, very strong impression that he wasn't that fond of britain , or indeed the west as britain, or indeed the west as a whole. and starmer is determined to detoxify that. that's the only way he could possibly win the election. i get very briefly. >> we've got a quick minute, stella, this idea of complete salary increase in team sports for kids, that's another starmer idea today. do you like it? >> of course we are. we have been talking about how damaging for the young people's mental health, the way that they live now is with all, you know, the
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smartphones and all of that. physical education is something very good, not just for their body, but for their mind as well. >> what do you reckon? oh, no. there's a trade off here. i don't want keir starmer to tell us kids exactly when they've got to be on the rugby field. i want teachers and head teachers to make that decision. if you want more sports, what do you want? less maths, less english, less science. let schools get back to running the curriculum. not having politicians writing down everything that everybody has to learn at every stage of their life. it's tiresome. >> i want to quickly point out that when increased sports was put into swedish schools over nine years, 40 minutes a day, boys grades increased by 17% over the head teachers will do it, i'm just saying i don't want the prime minister to do it. schools from learn from each other, but they need much more power over the curriculum. teachers have become form fillers and box tickers , and i fillers and box tickers, and i want teachers to read that evidence and then to make the decision, not the leader of the labour party. great. >> so mark and sally, great stuff and we'll see you again and in the next hour. now rishi
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sunak has said enough is enough and reckons it will take 10 to 12 weeks to get planes off the ground to rwanda . but labour ground to rwanda. but labour says the scheme won't work and nigel farage doesn't believe the prime minister at all. i'm martin daubney on britain's news channel now. it's your weather andifs channel now. it's your weather and it's annie shuttleworth. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar , the sponsors of weather solar, the sponsors of weather on gb news. hello. good afternoon. welcome to your latest gb news weather update. well, for the rest of the day it's going to stay feeling quite cold. but we do have some late sunshine to come, particularly for northern areas. however, in the south this weather front still sinking southwards through this evening and overnight, bringing quite a lot of cloud and some drizzly rain to central areas of england and wales, as well as the south coast of wales. later on this evening we'll also see some further rain arrive into parts of lincolnshire, the humber. here we could see some quite persistent low cloud as well. so
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quite a murky evening here. however further north it's going to brighten up or clear up across northern ireland, many northwestern areas of england and much of scotland. we'll be quite a cold night, but frost will be very much restricted to the far south—east, so a fairly chilly start to the day for many areas of the uk. but it's going to be a much drier and brighter day for the bulk of the uk. the best of sunshine across northern ireland western areas of scotland. here, temperatures will likely rise into the mid—teens. however, across the south it'll stay cloudy , south it'll stay cloudy, particularly across the southeast, where rain will come and go through the afternoon should stay drier, though further west and there is quite a chilly onshore breeze along the east coast, so that will bnng the east coast, so that will bring a chillier feel here and that will lead us into quite a cold night on tuesday night. so a bit of a wider risk of frost to start the day on wednesday, but it does look like another fairly dry and fine day. but still we've got that pesky onshore northerly wind across the east coast looking ahead to the east coast looking ahead to the rest of the week. while some further cold nights to come and it turns a bit more unsettled on friday. that warm feeling inside
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gb news. >> hey. very good afternoon to you and hope you're having a happy monday. it's 4 pm. and welcome to the martin dalby show on gb news broadcasting live from the heart of westminster all across the uk on today's show. no ifs, no buts. these flights are going to rwanda. well, today the prime minister, rishi sunak's, talked tough on immigration, saying the first flights will take off within 12 weeks. the big question is this can rwanda save rishi sunak or will it sink? mr sunak ? next up, will it sink? mr sunak? next up, metropolitan chief sir mark rowley is fighting for his job after one of his officers threatened to arrest an openly jewish protester, rishi sunak
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called it appalling. is it time for london's top cop to get the chop? and tony blair has admitted that labour must reset its relationship by negotiating closer political and trading ties with you guessed it, the european union. if it wins the next general election. the big question is this can labour be trusted on brexit and who's calling the shots? who's in charge ? is it sir keir starmer charge? is it sir keir starmer or is it actually sir tony blair and meghan markle's? and a bit of a pickle over her new designer jam? because one of a pickle over her new designerjam? because one of designer jam? because one of meghan's celebrity chums was photographed at a hollywood mansion with a jar of the overpriced stuff , which has been overpriced stuff, which has been variously labelled as an advert for happiness and embarrassing by critics. well, that's all coming up between now and 6 pm. welcome to the show. always an
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absolute joy to have your company. well, today is the day. at least if you believe rishi sunak. these flights will take off. no ifs, no buts. the flights are ready. the charter planes already. the staff are ready. we are ready for rwanda. but will it get voted through? or rishi sunak is threatening to lock them all in all night if that's what it takes to get it voted through today ? but we voted through today? but we spoke to a barrister, a human rights lawyer, earlier . they're rights lawyer, earlier. they're licking their lips, are doing everything they to can stop these flights taking off. do you think a single plane will take off within 12 weeks? that's what rishi sunak thinks. what do you think? i want to know your views. get in touch. gb news. com forward slash your say and i'll read out a few of the best before the end of the show. but before the end of the show. but before all of that it's time for your latest news headlines. and it's with tamsin roberts . it's with tamsin roberts. >> martin, thanks very much and
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good afternoon from the gb newsroom . it's 4:02. an newsroom. it's 4:02. an anti—semitism campaigner who threatened with arrest at a pro—palestine rally has told gb news the chief of the met police should resign . gideon falter, should resign. gideon falter, who is the chief executive of the campaign against anti—semitism, was described as openly jewish by officers and told his presence at a pro palestine demonstration was provocative. >> mr falter says the home secretary should remove sir mark rowley from his post. >> the met police commissioner has failed to use his powers to curtail or ban these protest sites. and now we've got a situation where, very regrettably, we, we are seeing, the, the, the, the met commissioner has failed completely and change has to come from the top. so what? i'd really like the home secretary to be saying to the commissioner today is resign or you're fired . today is resign or you're fired. >> the prime minister says the
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first flight to rwanda will leave in 10 to 12 weeks. speaking at a press conference, rishi sunak slammed labour peers for trying to stop the controversial legislation. mr sunak said an airfield is on standby and 150 judges are ready to deal with any legal cases quickly. his comments come ahead of a crunch vote tonight on the government's safety of the rwanda bill. >> but almost two years our opponents have used every trick in the book to block flights and keep the boats coming. but enoughis keep the boats coming. but enough is enough. no more prevarication , no more delay. prevarication, no more delay. parliament will sit there tonight and vote. no matter how late it goes. no ifs, no buts. these flights are going to rwanda . we are going to deliver rwanda. we are going to deliver this indispensable deterrent. so that we finally break the business model of the criminal gangs and save lives. >> but shadow home secretary yvette cooper says labour is not to blame for the delay .
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to blame for the delay. >> well, the government has an overall majority in parliament and could have passed this bill and could have passed this bill a month ago if they'd scheduled it then. but as we know, rishi sunak always looks for someone else to blame. this is costing the taxpayer half £1 billion for a scheme that will only cover 1% of asylum seekers . this is an of asylum seekers. this is an extortionate scheme. they should be putting that money into boosting our border security instead . that is what labour instead. that is what labour would do . would do. >> huw edwards has resigned from his position at the bbc. the news presenter was the broadcaster's highest paid star, but he's been off air since last july amid newspaper reports that he paid someone for intimate images. his departure comes after what the bbc described as medical advice . a car has medical advice. a car has crashed into a school in liverpool shortly before 830 this morning. a white mercedes hit a wall and ended up inside a
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classroom at the beacon primary school in everton, merseyside police say no children were present at the time of the collision . the female driver was collision. the female driver was assessed at the scene. her passenger sustained a minor injury. the school has been closed for the day and the building will be assessed for structural damage . two men have structural damage. two men have been charged with spying for china. christopher berry, who's 32, and 29 year old christopher cash have been charged with offences under the official secrets act following an investigation by the met's counter—terrorism command . both counter—terrorism command. both have been bailed to appear at westminster magistrates court on friday. the met is describing the allegations as very serious. a student whose stepfather set up a hidden camera in her bedroom just after she turned 18, is calling for tougher sentences for voyeurism offences. 48 year old paul selwood was handed just 22 months in prison after he filmed
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her naked by setting up a camera in her teddy bears . 21 year old in her teddy bears. 21 year old catherine simpson says no one believed her when she raised concerns about sexually suggestive behaviour. she's now launched a government petition which calls for an increase in maximum sentences for sex offences . the number of people offences. the number of people dying due to alcohol related causesis dying due to alcohol related causes is at a record high. misuse of alcohol increased rapidly at the start of the covid pandemic , according to the covid pandemic, according to the office for national statistics experts say the new figures show a continuation of that trend, with deaths a third higher last year compared to 2019. among those drinking too much are. liver disease is the leading cause of death, with rates much higher among men. alcohol change uk says it's the result of years of inaction and more must be done to tackle excessive drinking . well, for the latest drinking. well, for the latest stories, do sign up to gb news
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alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen, or go to gb news. com slash alerts now, though, it's back to . martin. though, it's back to. martin. >> thank you very much, tamsin. now, no ifs, no buts. these flights are going to rwanda. well, those were the words, the tough words of the prime minister earlier on today as he revealed that an airfield was on standby and charter flights have been booked to take asylum seekers to rwanda . and this seekers to rwanda. and this comes as united nations experts have warned airlines involved in the scheme that they could be held responsible for human rights violations, while mps and peers will sit in parliament to debate the safety of rwanda bill today. after weeks and weeks of endless back and forth, more ping endless back and forth, more ping pong than the olympics and rishi sunak has criticised the labour party, saying that they've continually blocked his
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bill. >> talking to you now and it's april. why? because labour peers in the house of lords have repeatedly voted against and blocked this bill. that happened just last week. again, it will happen again today, and i think it's crystal clear that the country believes this is a priority. i have been clear from the first day that i got this job that it's a priority for me to stop the boats, and that's why i'm talking to you today about all the prep work that has gonein about all the prep work that has gone in behind the scenes, and why i'm confident about our delivery going forward. >> well, that was the prime minister but the shadow home secretary, yvette cooper, has said that the rwanda plan simply will not work, and it's costing us half £1 billion. >> well, the government has an overall majority in parliament and could have passed this bill and could have passed this bill a month ago if they'd scheduled it then. but as we know, rishi sunak always looks for someone else to blame. this is costing the taxpayer half £1 billion for a scheme that will only cover 1%
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of asylum seekers. this is an extortionate scheme. they should be putting that money into boosting our border security instead . that is what labour instead. that is what labour would do. >> but would you scrap the scheme even if it's shown to be working well, you have a scheme thatis working well, you have a scheme that is costing the british taxpayer a half £1 billion. >> only to cover around 300 people. more people arrived in a weekend than that on small boats, so this is an extortionate scheme that has failed , just like the previous failed, just like the previous two laws that the conservatives have passed on this. and it's why neither the current home secretary nor the former home secretary nor the former home secretary think this is actually going to work. >> well, the prime minister says that flights will take off in 10 to 12 weeks. but gb news presenter nigel farage just doesn't believe him. >> just as david cameron talked tough. if you come here illegally, you won't be allowed to stay. theresa may. if you come here illegally, you won't be allowed to stay. boris
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johnson if you come here illegally, you won't be allowed to stay and just over two years ago, of course, we had the speech at lydd airport down in kent telling us about the rwanda plan. we're two years on, we've spent at least £160 million so far. not sent a single human being. and what happens is, every time rishi sunak speaks on this subject, he raises the rhetoric , he raises the rhetoric, he raises the rhetoric, he raises the rhetoric, and he does so, of course, because public anger is so great, the sense of injustice and unfairness is, do i believe that in 10 to 12 weeks time, there'll be planes taking off with significant numbers of migrants on board? no, i don't . migrants on board? no, i don't. >> well, there we go. nigel farage very cynical till the bitter end. and i'm joined in our studio by our political edhon our studio by our political editor, christopher hope, and also by the political correspondent of the spectator and great friend of the show, james heale gent . welcome to the james heale gent. welcome to the studio. let's start with a line that i thought was very, very telling . and that is, no foreign telling. and that is, no foreign court will stop this,
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irrespective of what goes on in the commons tonight . the lords, the commons tonight. the lords, the commons tonight. the lords, the endless ping pong is this is rwanda putting rishi sunak the conservative party on a dead on collision course with the echr with strasbourg. >> that's clearly what nigel farage thinks there, when he said that he thinks not a single flight will take off. he thinks that at the end of the day that the pm will not ignore the echr. the european court of human rights in strasbourg , if they rights in strasbourg, if they step in and say, i'm sorry, whatever parliament is decided with the safety rwanda bill, we will not let these flights take off. it's against the human rights of the people being flown there, the pm said. we are ready. plans are in place and these flights will go come what may. no foreign court will stop us from getting flights off. he's saying in terms there that the echr will not stop this policy is a battle he wants to set up, i imagine. and what the question now is, will sunak do that? he's not the kind of person we would imagine would take on a, the echr. but he's saying he will do right there. but no question. first of all, deportation in 10 to 12 weeks, mid to late july, there'll be a
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battle royale in july with the echr. i predict . echr. i predict. >> and that most likely then means that we are looking at a later general election. because if this if the flights do get off in july, then as rishi sunak said, he wants to see a rhythm of flights taking to off show that it's actually delivering, and therefore it means that the election will be pushed down the line. >> he wants a regular rhythm of flights taking off. he wants you and i and james not to be discussing this on tv simply marking that two flights took off today with rwanda loaded with 300 illegally arrived migrants. he wants to be part of this, the regular wafting way of being in government. this, the regular wafting way of being in government . and then as being in government. and then as it starts to maybe have an impact on those coming across , impact on those coming across, the people in france can say, well, if we're going to go to the uk, i'll be flown to rwanda. no thanks. i'll, i'll take my chances on the continent of europe. that will stop the boats coming across. that's the idea and that's the gamble. >> james, let's turn to you now , >> james, let's turn to you now, i think there's more chance of me being an astronaut. i really do. and. and that's not because i don't believe in rishi sunak.
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but we spoke to a human rights barrister on the show earlier. he's licking his lips. he was saying, even if this gets voted through, that's when the battle starts. and as for this idea of the airfield is ready, the planes are ready . if it's planes are ready. if it's discovered where this is going from, people you know, protesters, it'll make just stop oil look like a tea party. they'll be turning up and doing their damnedest to make sure a single flight never takes off one day. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> i completely agree with you. and i think that that's why they have taken partly this sort of the hare rather than the tortoise approach to all of this kind of thing, which the past six months since that supreme court judgement, i think a lot more damning judgement in november than we thought at the time. >> previously, sort of knocked down the rwanda scheme. >> they've really taken the last six months to repair all this with the judges, with the level of training involved, the handlers, etc, the right airstrip. >> and so that's all because they know very aware of these issues and they just don't want any operational issues to come into play in a department. >> the home office famously, where there are a lot of operational difficulties. >> and that's why i think he really is taking every step. >> i think that's the argument in favour of what cleverly and sunak have been doing rather than, say, the sort of the more
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braverman approach previously perhaps, which is that they really want to make sure every element is done and dusted. belt and braces approach . and braces approach. >> perhaps he's put his entire political authority on this scheme working, hasn't he? he's saying no ifs or buts. these flights are going to rwanda, if not a single flight takes off and he goes to the country, he's looking like an absolute chump. i think that's his problem. but he's he's put all his eggs in one basket. and i think the cynics out there . yvette cooper. cynics out there. yvette cooper. of course. nigel farage gb news, presenter saying it's not going to happen. he's got to make it happen. and it starts tonight. there the 6 pm. the commons votes 10 pm. the lords votes to see if they can re—exert those two amendments on afghans who fought with uk forces in afghanistan and regular regular checks on safety rwanda. if those two are reimposed, it goes through midnight, 2 am. 4 am. he's making very clear it's a test of his authority . if he test of his authority. if he can't get this through, it's a complete disaster for the pm. >> and james, i was joking earlier. many of the laws can't stay awake past 2 pm, let alone
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2 am. but joking aside, do you think they just let this one go? we made our point. we buried our fangs. let this get voted through and then the real battle will start with the legal challenges. >> i think the opponents and proponents of this bill in the lords have been surprised by the level of opposition within it, and i think they really want to make their point. >> i do think i mean, we said this last week, but i think this today is when it's going to in the early hours of tomorrow morning, be passed into law as a result of this. and i think therefore the next big challenge will take part. >> well, james, who do you blame for this, though? i'm struck by the fact that the pm today said that our political opponents have used every trick in the book to block flights, and i would argue he's blocked his own flights. i mean, the pm announced emergency legislation in november. he had a month ago before easter. he had 3 or 4 days in parliament to do exactly this very thing and didn't do it. he time was his friend. it's now his enemy. it's his own fault. >> well, this is the why we're talking about a later election this year. but in terms of what we want in the time in november, rather than a sort of july election, i do think there is i just think that a safety first approach is perhaps what rishi sunak has been doing and maybe, isuppose sunak has been doing and maybe, i suppose the counterargument to
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that is, after boris johnson announced this scheme without much sort of planning, as we've seen from some of the documents that have come out today about some of the opposition within government at that time, in around april, may 2022, and then, of course, the liz truss interregnum. perhaps there's something to be said for caution and safety first, in terms of if you're going to have a big legal battle, make sure you've got everything locked down two years ago. >> i mean, you've april 22nd, you've had three different goes at this, of course, and now is surely not the time for caution. >> the clock is ticking. the labour party have already said they'll throw this in the bin if they're to get into power. so now this is everything. this is all to play for. as you say, all the cards on the table. if rwanda doesn't work, will it sink? mr sunak , i think that sink? mr sunak, i think that he's already looking a little bit sunk. if you look at the polls , what i think what is so polls, what i think what is so striking since cleverly's come in as home secretary is actually you've seen rwanda stop being such a totemic issue in the sense that they've been much more keen to emphasise this is just one weapon in the armoury and not the magic bullet. so, for instance, rishi sunak is very keen to talk about his albania deal he had last year. and you saw him today at that press conference. talk about the vietnamese have risen ten fold since arriving. and so this is the problem, is that they're
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going around. it's sort of like many headed monster, this sort of hydra of immigration where you've got one country, you knock them down, then another one comes along. so i think that he will talk about things like partnerships, cooperation with europe, etc. not just rwanda as being the be all and end all. >> okay gents, we have to leave it there. thanks for joining us. and that's james heale of course chris. we'll see you for more later in the hour. thanks gents . later in the hour. thanks gents. now lots more of course, on the rwanda plan at 5:00 and there's plenty of coverage on our website gbnews.com. and you've helped to make it the fastest growing national news website in the country. so thank you very much. now brace yourselves, because the final week to see how your next holiday could be on us here @gbnews with your chance to win a greek cruise for two £10,000 in cash and luxury travel gifts , it's a prize worth travel gifts, it's a prize worth a total of over 20 grand and it could be yours. don't miss out, hazel. details. you need to hop on board. >> it's the final week to see how you can win our biggest prize yet, with thanks to variety cruises, a family company sailing since 1942, you
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welcome back. it's 423. i'm martin daubney, and this is gb news now. we voted to leave the european union almost eight years ago. seems like a lifetime ago. doesn't it? and whether or not you think brexit has been done, the fact is it's meant to be over the end. finito we need to move on. but some people won't keep banging on about the eu. and it's not just me , eu. and it's not just me, because chief among them is sir tony blair. yes, the former labour leader has got involved by telling sir keir starmer that the party must, in his own words, reset relations with the
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eu. if, as we all expect, words, reset relations with the eu. if, as we all expect , the eu. if, as we all expect, the labour party win the next general election . well, in an general election. well, in an interview with the sunday times at the weekend, he said that the uk had drifted too far from participation in the big political union on our own continent . but, well, political union on our own continent. but, well, i'm rejoining the studio by mark littlewood , who's a director of littlewood, who's a director of the popular conservatives and a political commentator . calocane political commentator. calocane keju. welcome back to the pair of you. right. let's start with you, mark, who's pulling the strings ? tony blair never seems strings? tony blair never seems to be too far away. he's hovering in the background. is he the puppet master? and more to the point does this closer ties mean death by a thousand treaties? is it brexit being undone on the quiet? >> yeah, that's my real worry, martin. i'm not so worried that that tony blair will be the prime minister and keir starmer if labour were to win in name only. but tony blair's clearly a huge figure in the in the labour party. and what he says is listen to by the leader of the labour party. but look, i've got
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really bad news for you and for your viewers and for anyone who voted for brexit. and that's that. this argument is never going to go away. it would be nice to think that we'd clarified it, closed it down. that's it. i know it took five years and endless wrangling, but look, in fairness , the question look, in fairness, the question of what should our relationship be with countries on the continent in the eu is always going to be a topic of debate . going to be a topic of debate. now, here's my worry that what the labour party will do is slowly realign us with eu regulation , and they will argue regulation, and they will argue that that will facilitate trade with the eu . and on that narrow with the eu. and on that narrow point, they might be right, but it proves to be a huge barrier to actually negotiating trade deals with the rest of the world, because you're sat down saying we've already signed up to all of this with the eu, we can't negotiate with you about financial services standards, pharmaceutical standards , pharmaceutical standards, because we've bought the whole eu rule book hook, line and sinker . so eu rule book hook, line and sinker. so what i'd like to see this government do before the election is to tie down some more trade deals and, crucially,
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get our membership of what's called cp, tpp . i think i've got called cp, tpp. i think i've got that right over the line. that's the common progressive trans—pacific partnership. and if you start wetting yourselves into those deals, then it actually becomes harder for a future government to re embed us in the eu's regulatory orbit. so my plea to kemi badenoch is get on with it and fast. >> stella, do you think a lot of people still believe that sir keir starmer don't forget he headed up the people's vote movement for three years to reverse brexit, to get a second referendum. since then, like blair, he's draped himself in the saint george's cross today. he's acting every part. the patriot brexit will not get undone, but we won't get a second vote. but perhaps by all these back door trade deals, they'll get what they want and thatis they'll get what they want and that is de facto membership of the eu. without giving us a single vote on it. >> not a chance. no, you can't do that without a referendum. you can't do that without having
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a complete revolt in parliament. and keir starmer has zero intention of doing that. he has not said anything like that. what's going on here is that you have a former prime minister tony blair, who is exceptionally talented at grabbing the headunes talented at grabbing the headlines and then getting attention and becoming an influential political figure. he's done it once. he's doing it again, but but the reality is that it's not going to be tony blair who's going to be prime minister come the next election. it's going to be keir starmer. now, i think keir starmer is the right person to make brexit a success. and the reason why i think that he tried to stop it is. exactly. and i will i will tell you why this, this, this is actually positive in terms of what the next prime minister of the uk has to do in 2025. the uk does need to negotiate its trade deals again with the eu. right. so tim shipman was saying this morning on times radio who just released his new book. he was saying how theresa may was the wrong person to deliver brexit hit because the fact that she was she had this remain image
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meant that she had to be extra , meant that she had to be extra, extra harsh and people didn't trust her to deliver brexit. so she had to prove that, look, i'm not i'm not an enemy to brexit. now, keir starmer, the new prime minister, as you as a new prime minister, as you as a new prime minister, his job is going to be to prove to the eu. look, i'm not hostile towards you guys . not hostile towards you guys. brexit is happening but i'm not hostile to you. so please don't punish us. be friends with us, work with us on things. no especially things like border security, which is absolutely essential . and keir starmer for essential. and keir starmer for that reason, is going to be able to portray that image while delivering brexit. whereas another politician who has already completely damaged and destroyed the relationship with the eu would have to prove first that, look, we are not here to be hostile. >> we are not here. i think that says a bit more about the eu than it says about the uk. you can be a brexiteer without being hostile to the eu. i wish the eu every success. there's a whole range of things we should be working with the eu on a whole range of things. i'm not saying
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let's never pick up the phone and when we do only pick it up to swear at them. i want good relations with the eu. what's at stake here is not whether you want good relations with the eu. that's shared presumably by brexiteers and remainers. what's at stake is do you want to be in the european union's regulatory orbit? do you think we should augn orbit? do you think we should align british regulations ? i align british regulations? i think was it blair or starmer who mentioned veterinary standards? you know, not a major area of policy. you start to augn area of policy. you start to align that. do we start to align again on financial services or do we diverge ? that's the do we diverge? that's the strategic choice. but whichever way you take it, i would hope that virtually every politician in britain wants good and cordial relations with the eu. whether you're on the diverge side, which i am, or whether you're on your sort of get halfway back into bed side , halfway back into bed side, which keir starmer is right. >> and that brings us to the next point, because you said earlier on stellar, no matter how sexy we make ourselves now, the eu won't want to marry us again. so. well, the data's are great. they want to marry us. they don't want to renegotiate. they don't want to renegotiate. they don't want to renegotiate. they don't want to do little contracts. they want us to rejoin. they've already said last month they're not
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interested in renegotiation. they want to us go back in. they want a referendum, not renegotiation . to be honest, renegotiation. to be honest, isn't that what most labour mps want anyway ? want anyway? >> well, no, that's not happening. we're playing hard to get. so this is why everyone will be lining up when labour is in government. every country will be lining up to have a trade deal with us because we've proven that we can do it and we're confident in our ability to do it. and there is an image there is there is a vision at there is there is a vision at the end of the tunnel, which keir starmer is going to pursue. and i think this is the most important thing because at the end of the day, what the voter cares is am i better off? are you making me poorer or are you making me richer? >> the mask has slipped a bit here, stella. you say labour's playing hard to get, but someone who's playing hard to get does want to be got. at the end of it. you be surprised. hard to get means that you get got at the end of it. and that's. that is my concern. that's my concern here. and i think we can have a very straightforward, i mean, from my point of view, martin, i would recognise all single market regulation if something is compliant with the european regulation, that will do for me their food standards, their
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pharmaceutical standards, let it into our market. we might want to have regulations which are less strict here for the domestic market, but i would unilaterally offer all single market regulated products straight into the uk market, and ihope straight into the uk market, and i hope they would do the same for us. >> okay, we have to leave it there. mark littlewood and stella chadha, thank you very much. excellent to have you in the studio today. loved it now still loads more still to come between now and 5:00 and i'll get the latest from the lucy letby appeal in the royal courts of justice. but first it's time for your latest news headlines andifs for your latest news headlines and it's tamsin roberts. >> martin, thanks very much. here are the headlines at 431. an anti—semitism campaigner who was threatened with arrest at a pro—palestine rally , has told gb pro—palestine rally, has told gb news that the chief of the met police should resign . gideon police should resign. gideon falter, who is the chief executive of the campaign against anti—semitism, was described as openly jewish by officers and told his presence
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at a pro—palestine demonstration was provocative . mr falter told was provocative. mr falter told gb news the home secretary should remove sir mark rowley from his post. >> the met police commissioner has failed to use his powers to curtail or ban these protests, and now we've got a situation where very regrettably, we are seeing , the, the, the, the met seeing, the, the, the, the met commissioner has failed completely and change has to come from the top. so what i'd really like the home secretary to be saying to the commissioner today is resign or you're fired . today is resign or you're fired. >> the prime minister says the first flight to rwanda will leave in 10 to 12 weeks. speaking at a press conference, rishi sunak slammed labour peers for trying to stop the controversial legislation. mr sunak said an airfield is on standby and 150 judges are ready to deal with any legal cases and quickly. his comments come ahead
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of a crunch vote tonight on the safety of rwanda bill. huw edwards has resigned from his position at the bbc. the news presenter was the broadcaster's highest paid star, but he's been off air since last july amid newspaper reports that he paid someone for intimate images. his departure comes after what the bbc described as medical advice as well. for the latest stories, signed up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen, or go to gb news. com slash alerts . slash alerts. >> thank you tamsin. now there's a brand new way to get in touch with us here @gbnews. and here's bev turner with all the details. >> we are proud to be gb news the people's channel. and as you know, we always to love hear your views. >> now there's a new way of getting in touch with us at gbnews.com/yoursay by commenting
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news child serial killer lucy letby is making a bid to challenge her convictions on four points. lawyers for letby are asking senior judges at the are asking seniorjudges at the court of appeal for the green light to bring an appeal against all her convictions. at the heanng all her convictions. at the hearing in london, which is expected to finish this week. our reporter sophie reaper has been covering this story from the start, and she joins me now from the royal courts of justice in central london. sophie massively contentious case. what's the latest ? what's the latest? >> well, first of all, let me just explain a little bit what is meant by an application to appeal. i'm sure many of our viewers will remember in august of last year when letby was found guilty on seven counts of murder and seven counts of attempted murder . but what some attempted murder. but what some people may not realise is in less than a month after that happened, she and her legal team made this application to appeal. and that's because one isn't simply allowed to just make that
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appeal. you have to go through the legal process first. so they made that application in the september. it was initially denied in january by a judge. they had then 14 days to relaunch the appeal , which they relaunch the appeal, which they did. and that is why we're here today at the royal courts of justice in london. a panel of three judges dame victoria sharp, lord justice holroyde and mrs. justice lambert, they have today been hearing this application to appeal for lucy letby. as you mentioned, on foregrounds, her legal team are attempting to challenge those convictions. now essentially, this panel of three judges have got two options going forward. they can either approve the application or they can deny the application or they can deny the application if they were to approve it, then it's likely that over the coming days, we would also hear the substantive appeal. so the next stage is of the application. however, if they were to deny the application, then that would be the end of the road for lucy netbeez appeal. she would no longer be able to make any kind
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of appeal against those convictions that she faced in august of last year. she wouldn't be able to go with to any other court or anything of that ilk . in fact, she would that ilk. in fact, she would then be guaranteed to spend those those 14 life sentences in prison, that is, of course, unless new evidence were to come to light . now, letby did unless new evidence were to come to light. now, letby did appear here at the court of appeal today via video link from hmp bronzefield . she spoke twice bronzefield. she spoke twice right at the start of the day. first of all, to confirm that she could hear the court and second, to confirm that she was indeed lucy letby. other than that, she was completely silent. of course, throughout the proceedings. now, over the coming days, our ability to report on this is somewhat restricted . now, that is because restricted. now, that is because in june, so just over six weeks away, letby will is scheduled to face a retrial around child care. now again , many of our care. now again, many of our viewers will remember that court case that finished in august of last year. childcare was one of
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the counts on the indictment where the jury were unable to reach a verdict, and the prosecution are now going to bnng prosecution are now going to bring that to a retrial. so in order to make sure we don't prejudice the jury going forward, we're very limited on the details that we can bring. however, we should by the end of the week, we believe, be able to bnng the week, we believe, be able to bring you that decision . on bring you that decision. on whether or not lucy letby is application to appeal has been approved, or if it has been denied . denied. >> thank you, sophie reaper for that update from the royal courts of justice in central london. thank you very much . now london. thank you very much. now i've got a few of your your saves. you've been sending them in particularly got you going is tony blair. tony blair seems to be back in the mix because early on we told you how he has admitted that the labour must reset its relationship by negotiating closer ties with the european union. terry says this i don't trust sir keir starmer as far as hike and throne. don't forget, for three years he tried to stop brexit. he's now saying whatever it takes to get elected
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, wrapping themselves in saint george's flags. to me it's all a bit desperate. pip says. this tony blair, in my opinion, actually is running the uk . he actually is running the uk. he is the puppet master. he wants to control our health apps. it's all about him and it's all about his endless millions. be careful what you wish for. but dawn says this. say what you like about tony blair. he knows how to win elections . that's why starmer elections. that's why starmer has hired him . they're becoming has hired him. they're becoming more like the kind of people who i would vote for. i have to say it, and i never thought i would, but they're making all of the right noises. joy has said this about rishi sunak, saying that those flights will get off the ground. we are ready. joy is quite cynical, she said sunak will not get the flights off the ground and that's because activists, lawyers, the ngos , activists, lawyers, the ngos, charities, gary lineker, the love is the whole lot of them. they'll do everything it takes to stop sunak to prevent these
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flights getting off the ground. i don't think a single flight will ever leave the country. well, joy, not much faith, but that debate is going on from now in parliament. we'll have all the latest throughout the show . the latest throughout the show. now coming up, we'll be joined by lord mann , who's an by lord mann, who's an independent adviser to the uk government on anti—semitism. we'll get his verdict on whether metropolitan police chief mark rowley should go amid an anti—semitism row. remember one of his officers called a protester openly jewish. more on that soon. i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel
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prime minister in the commons for his flagship policy. of course, that's the rwanda bill. and we're expecting a long day. and we're expecting a long day. and even a long night in parliament. but before that, a seven foot tall bronze statue of queen elizabeth ii has been unveiled in england's smallest county as a memorial to the country's longest reigning monarch. the people of rutland donated more than £140,000 to have the sculpture erected in honour of britain's late queen. it's the first of its kind to be revealed since her death in september 2022. now east midlands reporter will hollis had a front row seat for the biggest of occasions for england's smallest county in rutland, there isn't a single statue . statue. >> now there shall be of one of the most important people in british history, the late queen. lord—lieutenant sarah furness represents the monarch in the county. >> her majesty provided us all
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with a sense of stability and continuity as head of state. she gave us national identity , gave us national identity, raising £140,000 in donations, mostly from individuals. >> the statue in the town of oakham is the first of its kind to be unveiled since the death of queen elizabeth howell. pratley is the sculptor. >> i'm a big fan of public sculpture, being integral to the, you know, a friendly, caring community, young and old are lining the streets to catch are lining the streets to catch a glimpse of the seven foot statue, including 89 year old joyce lucas in the front row. >> we met her on several occasions in oakham and we've got some lovely photographs and lovely, lovely memories. she is the queen. she was great. she was brilliant and we miss her. >> a delegation of around 50. corgi, the queen's favourite dog is here too. >> it'sjust is here too. >> it's just nice to be around
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all the corgis. it's a sharing a love of them and the reveal . love of them and the reveal. >> after the queens death broke the nation's heart, her memorial is filling rutland's with pride. her image, taken from early middle age, set in bronze . middle age, set in bronze. >> it's a real fitting tribute to the late queen. >> i think it captures our late majesty's humanity, but also she looks so regal . looks so regal. >> absolutely beautiful. >> absolutely beautiful. >> queen elizabeth was britain's longest reigning monarch, an unbeatable 70 years on the throne. it's quite clear that the queen meant a lot to rutland, as she did for most people in the country , and in people in the country, and in the years to come, her statue will mean a lot to local mp. alicia kearns hopes the memorial encourages pride across britain and visitors to the area. >> we are so proud of our history. >> we are so proud of her majesty and we want to come
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together in celebration of british traditions . british traditions. >> her reign was great, unlikely to be matched by future king or queen, a legacy of unwavering service recorded in a place of permanent remembrance. will hollis gb news in oakham . hollis gb news in oakham. >> absolutely magnificent . now >> absolutely magnificent. now the anti—semitism campaigner who was threatened with arrest as a pro—palestine rally, has told gb news that the chief of the metropolitan police should resign . despite his apology, resign. despite his apology, gideon falter, who is the chief executive of the campaign against anti—semitism , was against anti—semitism, was described, of course, as openly jewish by officers and told his presence at a pro—palestine demonstration was provocative. let's cross now to our political edhon let's cross now to our political editor, chris hope. chris, welcome to the show. and i believe you have a very special guest with you to talk about this . this. >> hi, martin. that's right. with me now is lord, lord mann, john mann, who's the government's anti—terrorism adviser. lord mann is getting
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getting a fall to write . should getting a fall to write. should mark rowley resign? >> no. mr falter is wrong . i >> no. mr falter is wrong. i mean, it would be, i think, very dangerous for the country. and very dangerous for the jewish community. if sir mark rowley was to go. >> he is the senior expert in the country on counter—terrorism. >> we need those skills at the moment. you know, we're living in dangerous times. the last thing we want is to undermine our ability to deal with terrorism. so no, rowley should stay. but you've seen the video. >> gideon falter. he was jewish. he was trying to cross a street. he was trying to cross a street. he was trying to cross a street. he was wearing a kippah, skullcap cap in that march, on april the 13th. why can't you cross the street wearing a kippah, a skull cap? well you need to be able to do that, but i think i think it's reasonable to say that what gideon falter was doing was is protesting. >> it's protesting perfectly legitimate in this country to protest it. but there are two sides. they're protesting. i think it's perfectly reasonable for the police to say, well, let's keep the two sides apart
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and let's not have them clashing. >> and there is a danger, you know, if we if the line was to take hold, that you can walk into other people's demonstrate means, even if you're very active in opposing the basis of those demonstrations. >> i mean, imagine if, let's say, an activist, an agitator from within the muslim community came with all the garb , into the came with all the garb, into the jewish community, into a jewish communal event and started walking around and filming. >> i don't think people would be very happy about that. i wouldn't be happy about that. >> and i'd expect the police if they were there to intervene and politely move them on. >> you know, there isn't absolute freedom in this country to walk where you want. >> there needs to be consideration . one of the consideration. one of the difficult role the police have, and i think actually they messed up on their language. >> there needs to be some education there. their pr afterwards was pretty dismal,
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but there is not a precedent in my view, that we can allow now that would allow an activist from one campaign to walk into the middle of someone else's campaign for the jewish community. if done in reverse, that would be very bad news indeed. >> yeah, that language saying that the mr falter was openly jewish is what you're describing there as being clumsy language from you know, i mean, it's not the openly jewish, it's the fact that he's clearly and well known to be proud to be the other side of an argument. >> you know, he's proudly jewish. nothing wrong with being proudly jewish. he's proudly zionist. he's perfectly entitled in this country to be proudly zionist and pro—israel. he is. >> but there's a clash there when there are demonstrators demonstrating against israel and its actions, we'd have exactly the reverse situation mirrored if it was a palestinian activist or pro—palestinian anti—israel activist who went into a jewish
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communal event, perhaps a jewish community protest on the hostages. >> i don't want to see that. >> i don't want to see that. >> that's not good for our democracy . democracy. >> so i want to see sensible policing, better language , policing, better language, police, better education. the apology was certainly required, but no, rowley should stay and we shouldn't have people wandering into other people's protests. that is a very slippery slope to all sorts of problems, including for the jewish community, sir. >> but lord, man, you're the government's anti—semitism advisor to the pm, rishi sunak, your ultimate boss, i suppose , your ultimate boss, i suppose, in that sense, has said that mark rowley needs to rebuild confidence and trust with the jewish community. mark rowley is now meeting with the home secretary, james cleverly. the government you're advising is not listening to what you're saying. >> no, i think actually i think the prime minister is listening . the prime minister is listening. >> prime minister hasn't called for some out. >> rowley to go. now there's a home secretary that's significant. >> so rowley's position secure. >> so rowley's position secure. >> there have been meetings today with the jewish community,
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and there's a meeting later this week at the home secretary's meeting. >> i'm also meeting sir mark rowley on this. so, yes, there does need to be thought there's a balance to be struck. >> you know, how many demonstrations a week can there be? >> where should they be? you know , if you're a business and know, if you're a business and someone's demonstrating on something else outside your business regularly, then you're losing money and your customers and your workforce are impacted . and your workforce are impacted. so i think there's always imagination. i think the police can use more imagination. let the protesters have their democratic say. but let's make sure as well that businesses in particular and the jewish community are not overly disturbed in going about their way of life. the two can be done. that's what good policing is. >> and i'm sure that's what the prime minister is saying. and i would echo that. >> so you feel sorry for the police in this case? >> i do i do indeed, because, you know, look that police officer clearly messed up. i don't know him, but he clearly
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messed up. but he was doing his job. and, you know, i've seen the full 30 minutes he was trying to do his job professionally. the police were in a difficult situation . in a difficult situation. they're in the middle of this. and if you've got two sides with very strong views , and that was very strong views, and that was the case in this situation without any question. the police need to manage it. and, you know, people have used the analogy of football fans. well, you know, when i go and watch my team play in your team, occasionally we can't go down the roads. we want to go down. sometimes we can't even go in the pubs we'd like to go into. we don't always like that, but the police have a job to do to look after me and you in that situation, and here to ensure that whoever's protesting on all sides can do so safely. so no, i do not criticise the police in their overall approach, but i do think there was some mistakes made and the police need to learn from that . learn from that. >> well, that's lord mann there, martin, with a clear defence there of the police and the way
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a very good afternoon to you. and a happy monday . it's 5 afternoon to you. and a happy monday. it's 5 pm. and afternoon to you. and a happy monday . it's 5 pm. and welcome monday. it's 5 pm. and welcome to the martin daubney show on gb news. broadcasting live from the heart of westminster all across the uk . on today's show, we've the uk. on today's show, we've seen this before. mps are debating the prime minister's rwanda plan ahead of a crunch vote tonight . live pictures vote tonight. live pictures there on your screen. rishi sunak says . no ifs, no buts. sunak says. no ifs, no buts. these flights are going to rwanda. but will the houses of parliament give the deportation scheme the green light? we'll have all the latest . and the man have all the latest. and the man who was told he was too openly jewish at a pro—palestinian protest, says that the met chief should still stand down despite
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issuing an apology. rishi sunak has called the incident appalling. so is it time for london's top cop to get the chop? and meghan markle's in a bit of a pickle over her new designer jam bit of a pickle over her new designerjam . one of meghan's designerjam. one of meghan's celebrity chums was photographed at a hollywood mansion with a jar of the stuff, which has been variously labelled as either an advert for happiness or outright embarrassing. that's all coming up between now and 6:00. welcome to the show. always a delight to have your company. now buckle up. that's going to be a long night ahead. rishi sunak has said no ifs, no buts . enough is said no ifs, no buts. enough is enough. these flights will take off. and he even said within 10 to 12 weeks. but is that going to 12 weeks. but is that going to happen? well, this vote is going on in the commons today. it's on a ping pong to the laws. rishi sunak, the prime minister,
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has said none of you are going home until we get this over the line. will that be enough to get those flights off the ground, or will the battle just be beginning with the lawyers, the charities, the ngos? and no doubt the lobbies and the protesters licking their lips to do all they can to stop rwanda, just like they did with brexit. do you think a single flight will get off the ground within 12 weeks? that's what the prime minister says. i want to know what you think, send your views and there's a new way to do it. gbnews.com/yoursay get in touch, keep them clean and i'll read out a bunch before the end of the show. but right now, it's time for your headlines and it's tamsin roberts . tamsin roberts. >> martin, thanks very much and good afternoon from the gb newsroom. it's 5:02. an anti—semitism campaigner who was threatened with arrest at a pro—palestine rally has told gb
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news the chief of the met police should resign in. gideon falter, who is the chief executive of the campaign against anti—semitism, was described as openly jewish by officers and told his presence at a pro—palestine demonstration was provocative . mr falter says the provocative. mr falter says the home secretary should remove sir mark rowley from his post. >> the met police commissioner has failed to use his powers to curtail or ban these protests. and now we've got a situation where, very regrettably , we are where, very regrettably, we are seeing, the, the, the, the met commissioner has failed completely and change has to come from the top. so what i'd really like the home secretary to be saying to the commissioner today is resign or you're fired . today is resign or you're fired. >> mps and peers could sit in parliament through the night as rishi sunak pushes to get the rwanda bill passed. well, if you're watching on tv, these are
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the scenes live inside the commons . mps are now debating commons. mps are now debating the lords amendments to the bill, which is at the centre of a standoff between the two houses. it comes as rishi sunak revealed the first flight to rwanda will leave in 10 to 12 weeks. speaking at a press conference, rishi sunak slammed labour peers for attempting to stop the controversial legislation for almost two years. >> our opponents have used every trick in the book to block flights and keep the boats coming . but flights and keep the boats coming. but enough is enough. no more prevarication , no more more prevarication, no more delay. parliament will sit there tonight and vote. no matter how late it goes. no ifs, no buts. these flights are going to rwanda . we are going to deliver rwanda. we are going to deliver this indispensable deterrent. so that we finally break the business model of the criminal gangs and save lives. >> but shadow home secretary yvette cooper says labour is not to blame for the delay .
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to blame for the delay. >> well, the government has an overall majority in parliament and could have passed this bill and could have passed this bill a month ago if they'd scheduled it then. but as we know, rishi sunak always looks for someone else to blame. this is costing the taxpayer half £1 billion for a scheme that will only cover 1% of asylum seekers. this is an extortionate scheme. they should be putting that money into boosting our border security instead . that is what labour instead. that is what labour would do . would do. >> prosecutors in new york are trying to convince a jury that donald trump's alleged cover up of a hush money payment to a former adult film star broke the law. the first criminal trial of a former us president is now underway , with mr trump calling underway, with mr trump calling on supporters to protest at courthouses all over the country. justice merchant ruled this afternoon that jurors will be allowed to review a transcript of a tape from the access hollywood tv show, in which the former president was
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heard bragging about touching women. mr trump denies any wrongdoing . huw edwards has wrongdoing. huw edwards has resigned from his position at the bbc. the news presenter was the bbc. the news presenter was the broadcaster's highest paid star, but he's been off air since last july amid newspaper reports that he'd paid someone for intimate images. his departure comes after what the bbc described as medical advice . bbc described as medical advice. a woman has been arrested after a car crashed through the wall of a primary school in liverpool shortly before 830 this morning. a white mercedes hit a wall, ending up inside a classroom at the beacon primary school in everton. merseyside police say no children were present at the time of the collision. the female driver was assessed at the scene. her passenger sustained a minor injury. the school has been closed for the day and the building will be assessed for structural damage . assessed for structural damage. a former parliamentary researcher and another man have
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been charged with spying for china after an investigation by counter—terrorism police . 29 counter—terrorism police. 29 year old christopher cash and christopher berry , who's 32, christopher berry, who's 32, have been charged under the official secrets act. both have been bailed and will appear at westminster magistrates court on friday. the metropolitan police say the allegations are very serious . the number of people serious. the number of people dying due to alcohol related causesis dying due to alcohol related causes is at a record high. most use of alcohol increased rapidly at the start of the covid pandemic, according to the office for national statistics experts say the new figures show a continuation of that trend, with deaths a third higher last year compared to 2019. among those drinking too much. liver disease is the leading cause of death , with rates much higher death, with rates much higher among men. alcohol change uk says it's the result of years of inaction and more must be done to tackle excessive drinking .
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to tackle excessive drinking. those are the headlines. and for the latest stories, do sign up to gb news alerts. just scan the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. com slash alerts . now gb news. com slash alerts. now it's back to . it's back to. martin. >> thank you tamsin. now mps and peers could sit in parliament throughout the night as rishi sunak pushes to get the safety of rwanda bill finally passed . of rwanda bill finally passed. mps are now debating the lords amendments. as you can see on your screen to the prime minister's rwanda plan, ahead of that crunch vote in the commons and lords tonight . and this and lords tonight. and this comes as rishi sunak revealed that an airfield was on standby and charter flights have been booked to take asylum seekers to rwanda . but the united nations rwanda. but the united nations has waded in and warned that airlines involved in the scheme could be held responsible for human rights violations. and
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meanwhile, rishi sunak has criticised the labour party, saying they've continually blocked his bill. >> talking to you now and it's april. why? because labour peers in the house of lords have repeatedly voted against and blocked this bill. that happened just last week. again, it will happen again today , and i think happen again today, and i think it's crystal clear that the country believes this is a priority. i have been clear from the first day that i got this job that it's a priority for me to stop the boats , and that's to stop the boats, and that's why i'm talking to you today about all the prep work that has gonein about all the prep work that has gone in behind the scenes, and why i'm confident about our delivery going forward . delivery going forward. >> well, that was the prime minister and the shadow home secretary , yvette cooper, has secretary, yvette cooper, has said that the rwanda plan simply won't work, and it's costing us half £1 billion. >> well, the government has an overall majority in parliament and could have passed this bill and could have passed this bill a month ago if they'd scheduled it then. but as we know, rishi sunak always looks for someone else to blame. this is costing
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the taxpayer half £1 billion for a scheme that will only cover 1% of asylum seekers . this is an of asylum seekers. this is an extortionate scheme. they should be putting that money into boosting our border security instead . that is what labour instead. that is what labour would do. >> but would you scrap the scheme even if it's shown to be working? >> well, you have a scheme that is costing the british taxpayer a half £1 billion, only to cover around 300 people. more people arrived in a weekend than that on small boats. so this is an extra passionate scheme that has failed. just like the previous two laws that the conservatives have passed on this. and it's why neither the current home secretary nor the former home secretary nor the former home secretary think this is actually going to work. >> well, the prime minister says no ifs , no buts. those flying no ifs, no buts. those flying flights will take off in 10 to 12 weeks. but gb news presenter nigel farage simply doesn't believe him. >> just as david cameron talked
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tough . if you come here tough. if you come here illegally, you won't be allowed to stay. theresa may. if you come here illegally, you won't be allowed to stay. boris johnson if you come here illegally, you won't be allowed to stay. and just over two years ago, of course , we had the ago, of course, we had the speech at lydd airport down in kent, telling us about the rwanda plan. we're two years on, we've spent at least £160 million so far. not sent a single human being. and what happens is, every time rishi sunak speaks on this subject , he sunak speaks on this subject, he raises the rhetoric. he raises the rhetoric , and he does so, of the rhetoric, and he does so, of course, because public anger is so great, the sense of injustice and unfairness do i believe that in 10 to 12 weeks time, there'll be planes taking off with significant numbers of migrants on board? no, i don't . on board? no, i don't. >> well, there we go. make a note of the date. nigel farage and yvette cooper agree on something. they don't have any faith in the rwanda plan. let's speak now with our political edhon speak now with our political editor, chris hope. chris welcome to the show, chris. inside westminster hall. now
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you're inside the belly of the beast that's set for midnight oil and presumably a vat load of coffee to keep them awake . coffee to keep them awake. they're not leaving that place until it is voted through . until it is voted through. that's what the prime minister says. what's the mood inside there, chris? >> yeah, the pm's said martin. no ifs, no buts. these flights are going to rwanda and we're here for gb news in parliament in a historic westminster hall to see it all unfold in less than an hour will see mps in the house of commons voting to reject those two amendments from the house of lords to the safety of rwanda bill. just to remind you, the first is on the ban the uk deporting afghans who served with uk forces in afghanistan to rwanda if they arrive here legally . and the second one is legally. and the second one is about regular checks and whether rwanda is a safe country. those who will be returned to the house of lords will then be a penod house of lords will then be a period of time for hours. you're heanng period of time for hours. you're hearing the bell ringing now that indicates voting on a different measure , but that's different measure, but that's what we're hearing all night. that bell going off all the time
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here in parliament at 10 pm, the house of lords will vote. almost certainly will probably to reject what the commons have done. it goes back to the house of commons at midnight, and then they send it back to the house of lords and it could carry on through the evening, could be a 2 am. vote in the house of lords, returning it to the commons 4 am. back in the house of commons. i don't think it will go that far. i think even at some point the house of lords might draw stumps. this is this is an expression of will by the democratically elected house of commons against the unelected house of lords, and that's why the prime minister is so keen to make that very clear. he he says, we're ready. we are ready. plans are in place and these flights will go come what may. no foreign court will stop us, he says. and is that line no foreign court will stop us. that resonated with me. i think this probably will get through the parliament in the next 12 hours or so. but what's next? next is a battle royal in courts. you're going to see probably the european court of human rights. yes. that strasbourg court, that foreign court that rishi sunak
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has been critical of trying to get involved again. and if that happens, it's a test for rishi sunak. happens, it's a test for rishi sunak . does he believe in sunak. does he believe in sovereignty of the uk parliament over what he calls a foreign court? does he believe in it enough to defy it? >> and chris, we spoke to a human rights barrister earlier on the show. he said those in his profession are licking their lips at the prospect. even if this gets voted through . they've this gets voted through. they've already seen the attack lines on the rwanda bill. he was confident no flights will take off. he was confident that it will be stymied. just like brexit. chris, you've got a single pint of beer bat with the prime minister that flights won't take off before the election. i asked you every time i'm going to ask you. finally, as we approach this historic vote, do you think your beer is safe? do you think these flights will ever get off the ground ? will ever get off the ground? >> i think they will get off the ground, martin. i think it will happen. probably in mid to late july. the pm that said. then he wanted a regular rhythm of flights. he wants united . stop
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flights. he wants united. stop talking about it at the top of the hour on gb news make it a regular part of the way the government does its business every week or so, hundreds of people arriving here illegally are sent to rwanda where they're processed, and the hope is that will break this business model and stop these people sending people across the channel from france . that's the hope. but i'm france. that's the hope. but i'm not sure. only a few flights is a regular rhythm. so therefore i think the election planning for viewers and listeners might be to plan for an election probably in november time, because i think he wants to see a number of months of these flights taking off. but he says they are ready. they've got 500 people ready. they've got 500 people ready to escort people to rwanda, 300 more being, being being trained up. you've got the airfield ready. even a carrier is ready. despite the united nafions is ready. despite the united nations saying today that if you do fly anyone to rwanda, you could be in trouble with the un. despite all these threats and all this noises off, the pm is set on getting this through. he has staked his political credibility on doing so. >> okay. chris obe live in the belly of the beast in westminster hall. get yourselves
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some coffee. could be a long night. chris will be covering that for us throughout the rest of the evening. thank you very much. i'm joined now by the former labour mp, bill rammell. bill, welcome to the show . bill, welcome to the show. always a pleasure. you've been on the show before many times calling this a white elephant a gimmick. half £1 billion later, bill rammell, do you think we're any nearer seeing a single flight take off for rwanda? >> well, it's not often i agree with nigel farage, but i think he may be on the money when he says that the flights are not going to take off, but you know, even if they do and sunak gets the bill through tonight, and, you know, flights take off in july. the bill is still a gimmick. it's still a charade to try and hide the fact, that, you know, net immigration is three times higher now than it was when labour left office. and it won't work. one, because of the costs the costs are extortionate. it's going to
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increase the amount of money we spend on asylum seekers by about £5 billion a year, virtually doubung £5 billion a year, virtually doubling the amount that we're spending now. that's madness . spending now. that's madness. secondly, it will not be a deterrent , you know, on the deterrent, you know, on the government's own estimates, they think if it works , about 500 think if it works, about 500 people in the first year put that against the 35,000 currently in the backlog, another 30,000 this year. that means there's something like a 0.77% chance of someone coming across on a boat. and then being sent to rwanda, you know, not for nothing. did the home secretary call this bill batshit crazy? >> yeah. okay yeah. we'll have to apologise for that word, it is before the watershed bill. that was a factual representation of what was said. but nevertheless, apologies if you're offended by that word, bill. the big question now is rishi sunak is saying he's got his eyes set on a battle with the echr. if this goes to them
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and they try and stop it. he said that no foreign court shall prevail over british sovereignty. do you think rishi sunak's got the battle, the stomach for that kind of a fight ? >> 7- >> no, i 7_ >> no, i don't, 7 >> no, i don't, you know, all the indications are, that if and remember, go back to the supreme court. the supreme court actually found that this law was in, that it breached, yes, international law, but also domestic law. but if sunak did try to leave the echr it's very clear that a number of his cabinet colleagues would not support him and would resign, and, you know, i don't think he's got the bottle. i don't think he's got the authority to carry that through. what he should be doing is what the labour party has rightly, advocated is to significantly clear the backlog of asylum cases, because that's the biggest pull factor attracting asylum seekers to this country. we should focus on returns
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agreements, to get the asylum seekers returned to countries elsewhere in the european union . elsewhere in the european union. and we need criminal, police cooperation with europol to tackle the traffickers up upstream. practical measures, the like of which we delivered under the last labour government, where by the time we left office, we had significantly reduced the number of asylum seekers . of asylum seekers. >> okay, bill rammell, thanks for your input. and you can see live pictures on your screen there. this is still being debated in the commons. this will be going on late into the night . that was bill rammell, night. that was bill rammell, former labour mp. once again, apologies for bill's rather fruity language there. now let's move on. it's the final week to see how your next holiday could be on us here @gbnews, with your chance to win a greek cruise for 210 grand in cold, hard, tax free cash, plus luxury travel gifts on top. it's a prize worth over £20,000 and it could be yours. don't miss out! here's all the details that you need to
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welcome back. it's 524. i'm martin daubney and this is gb news now. former us president donald trump is back in court today as opening statements began in his new york, hush—money criminal trial. he's facing charges of falsifying business records to conceal hush money payments. they were made to a porn star. now the court will now hear from the first witness, the former ceo of american media, david pecker. and just before he went into court, trump told reporters that the trial was an attempt to
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disrupt his campaign to be the next us president . next us president. >> all right. thank you very much. i just want to say before we begin, these are all beau biden trials. this is done as election interference. everybody knows it. i'm here. instead of being able to be in pennsylvania and georgia and lots of other places campaigning and it's very unfair. fortunately, the poll numbers are very good. they've been going up because people understand what's going on. this is a witch hunt and it's a shame. and it comes out of washington. it's in coordination with washington. everything including the da's office. it's including the da's office. it's in coordination with washington . in coordination with washington. i just want people to understand that this is done for purposes of hurting the opponent of the worst president in the history of our country. >> indeed, just a few minutes ago, donald trump's lawyer came out and spoke to reporters and said what donald trump did wasn't even wrong. well, joining me now is the former white house
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adviser to president trump, sebastian gorka. sebastian, it's always a delight to have you on the show. so donald trump's critics are saying this is the day donald trump hoped would never come. donald trump himself is imploring people to save our country and protest outside courts across the land. it's day one and it's already hugely dramatic. what's the latest ? dramatic. what's the latest? well, it's really what the president said. >> it's an utter travesty. >> it's an utter travesty. >> the only reason this is occurring, martin, is that this individual, my former boss, is trouncing the current incumbent, joe biden, in polls. >> every significant poll says that if we had a free and fair election today, he would defeat the incumbent, joe biden. and this is just rank election interference. >> think about the fact that this is a case that was declined by the prosecutor's predecessor from new york who said, no, there's no case there . there's no case there. >> the federal elections commission said, no, there's no case there. and this is a man,
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the prosecutor, who was funded by george soros during his campaign because we elect prosecutors in this municipality. and he actually campaigned on putting president trump in prison. >> so this has nothing to do with justice. >> the key witness is a convicted perjurer, michael cohen, and stormy daniels has published a letter in 2018 where she said she never had any kind of relationship with president trump. >> so this is just an attempt to keep president trump off the campaign trail and to keep him tied up until the election . and tied up until the election. and in fact, sebastian, the court just heard that donald trump's team are claiming that stormy stormy is salacious testimony does not matter, implying she's simply doing it for the money, if you look at this woman's track record , i think anybody track record, i think anybody can decide for themselves what this is about. >> and the fact the most important thing is that this is
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a new york court, the most important thing that the president mentioned just there, that the chief prosecutor bragg is using is an individual called matthew colangelo . where did matthew colangelo. where did matthew colangelo. where did matthew colangelo. where did matthew colangelo come from? >> oh, he was just magically spirited from biden's department of justice to the new york da's office. >> this is a 15 year democrat strategist who used to work for wait for it. >> barack obama . >> barack obama. >> barack obama. >> this tells you everything you need to know about a politically motivated prosecution. >> that is rather a persecution on. >> and, sebastian, the thing about this, of course, is that every day donald trump is having to give evidence, sit through evidence, be in court. it's a day he can't be out campaigning. it's a day he can't be out fundraising. is that another part of this? the process itself is a punishment indeed, as fbi whistleblowers who have come out to talk about the targeting of conservatives in the last few years, a brave men like steve friend and carl serafin, they've
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used exactly that phrase. >> you nailed it. the process is the punishment. but they've kind of shot themselves in the foot here because he may not be able to hold mass rallies, as is his wont whilst he is in court. he can do that, of course, at the weekend . but as you just played weekend. but as you just played a clip of every time he goes to the court and leaves the court, they provide him a platform where the press have to be there, and then we have that incredible moment. last tuesday when he left the court, went to harlem , you know, the epicentre harlem, you know, the epicentre of black american community in manhattan, in new york. >> and what happened in harlem? the children started shouting, chanting , we love you, trump. so chanting, we love you, trump. so they've kind of shot themselves in the foot because the trial in and of itself gives my former boss an incredible daily political platform. and how do you think this is going to pan out? is this a show trial? will it have any significance? would it have any significance? would it have any resonance, or is it just about ,
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it have any resonance, or is it just about, you know, putting donald trump's dirty laundry out for the public to see to try and affect the election in november ? affect the election in november? >> well, look, our legal system is based upon the british system. we have a jury of 12, citizens who will decide. two of them who are lawyers. but the question is, is it a jury pool of his peers? let's remember new york. overwhelmingly, more than 70% voted for joe biden. so york. overwhelmingly, more than 70% voted forjoe biden. so are these 12 individuals, all democrats . the fact that they democrats. the fact that they gave some very strange answers in the voir dire selection process about where they get their information from, would lend me to suspect that they probably mostly democrats, but all we need is one person to understand that this is a political show trial. >> and then president trump walks scot free, and we know once more that they are trying to use the court system as lawfare, as they as they law weapon against president trump . weapon against president trump. okay. thanks for joining weapon against president trump. okay. thanks forjoining us weapon against president trump. okay. thanks for joining us for
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your expert insights. always a pleasure. that's sebastian gorka, former white house adviser to donald trump. well, moments ago, donald trump's attorney alina habba came out of court and spoke to reporters. let's have a listen to what she had to say. this is where your taxpayer dollars are going. >> america right here. witch hunt after witch hunt. >> president trump's company was worth more in that case than it is now. and now what? we're here because of something that happened when he was in the white house that wasn't even wrong. it was not wrong. you hire a lawyer to solve problems. >> lawyers solve those problems. you pay them . that's it. you pay them. that's it. >> this is a joke. it's an affront to the american constitution. >> it's an affront to our judicial system. >> and it's an affront to every lawyer that cares about their license, that cares about what is right and wrong. i am sick of coming in front of the press and saying this, but you have to because you people need to understand what is going on. god forbid you put an accounting thing for in legal counsel. it's legal counsel. and now our taxpayer dollars, my time, our attorneys fees are all here
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because they're afraid of 2024. >> and you know what they should do? because the american people are not stupid. they see what's going on. thank you . going on. thank you. >> well, fighting talk there, that was alina habba, and that's donald trump's attorney outside the court case. the greatest court case on earth at the moment, ahead of the greatest election on earth in in november. we'll of course, have all of the latest on that throughout throughout the evening and all the way through to november. loads more still to come between now and 6:00. i'll tell you why megan's in a jam over her new jam, but first, it's over her new jam, but first, wsfime over her new jam, but first, it's time for your latest news headlines, and it's tamsin roberts. >> martin, thanks very much. here are the headlines from the gb newsroom . it's 532. well, we gb newsroom. it's 532. well, we can start with some breaking news now from the house of commons. we've just heard in the last few moments that mps have voted to reject a lords amendment to the rwanda bill,
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which would mean rwanda could not be declared safe until a report from an independent monitoring group was completed. so that news just in. in the last few moments, if you're watching on tv, these are the live scenes inside the commons where mps are preparing for the second of tonight's debates ahead of another vote. we will, of course, keep you across the results of that as well throughout the evening here on gb news. so the last few moments, mps have voted to reject a lords amendment to the rwanda bill, which would mean rwanda bill, which would mean rwanda could not be declared safe until a report from an independent monitoring group was completed. more on that and analysis throughout the programme . well, of course, this programme. well, of course, this comes as rishi sunak revealed that the first flight to rwanda will leave in 10 to 12 weeks, and after tonight's vote, the bill will be sent back to the house of lords, where some peers may attempt to insist on their amendments again . in new york,
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amendments again. in new york, prosecutors are trying to convince a jury that donald trump's alleged cover up of a hush money payment to a former aduh hush money payment to a former adult film star broke the law. the first criminal trial of a former us president is now underway, where the former national enquirer publisher, david pecker was testifying. just moments ago. mr trump denies any wrongdoing . an denies any wrongdoing. an anti—semitism campaigner who was threatened with arrest at a pro—palestine rally has told gb news. the chief of the met police should resign. gideon falter , who is the chief falter, who is the chief executive of the campaign against anti—semitism , was against anti—semitism, was described as openly jewish by officers and told his presence at a pro—palestine demonstration was provocative . huw edwards has was provocative. huw edwards has resigned from his position at the bbc. the news presenter was the bbc. the news presenter was the broadcaster's highest paid star, but he's been off air since last july amid newspaper reports that he paid someone for
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frankly that's headliners on gb news from 11 pm. till midnight, and the following morning five till 6 am. on gb news, the comedy channel. now just kidding. britain's news channel . kidding. britain's news channel. welcome back. it's 540. i'm martin daubney and this is gb news. now let's get the latest on the hugely controversial incident when a police officer threatened to arrest an anti—semitism campaigner at a pro—palestine demonstration. one policeman described gideon falter as openly jewish and rishi sunak has today weighed into the row . he rishi sunak has today weighed into the row. he said that he still has confidence in the metropolitan police commissioner , mark rowley, but only on the bafis , mark rowley, but only on the basis that he works to rebuild the confidence and trust of not just the jewish community, but also the wider public. and here's a reminder of what's happened nine days ago. >> you are quite openly jewish. >> you are quite openly jewish. >> this is a pro—palestinian march. i'm not accusing you of
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anything, but i'm worried about the reaction to your presence . the reaction to your presence. >> you choose to remain here because you are for the breach of peace. >> and if i remain here, you will arrested because your presence is antagonising a large group of people that we can't deal with. >> all of that . >> all of that. >> all of that. >> well, since then, fresh footage has emerged that gives the incident a wider context, including this footage that gb news viewers can see, which appears to show gideon falter walking against the palestinian march and an officer approaching him. this clip has also been released of the confrontation between them . between them. >> i've already seen you deliberately leave the pavement and walk against this march. >> you chose to do that trying to get to the other side. >> so your comment about get to the other side is disingenuous, whether you like it or not. >> how do you want me to get to the other side? i will quite happily walk you over there. i'm not trying to go over there. >> yeah, when you go over there, you'll be able to use the footpath and go up peter
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bleksley . see? so shall we do it bleksley. see? so shall we do it exactly across the road ? i don't exactly across the road? i don't want to get right there. there's a big confrontation. no there's not, sir. >> well, i'm joined now by the former metropolitan police superintendent , leroy logan. superintendent, leroy logan. leroy, welcome to the show. always a pleasure to have you. so rishi sunak called it appalling . suella braverman appalling. suella braverman saying mark rowley must go, although, interestingly , we although, interestingly, we spoke to lord john mann earlier on the show . spoke to lord john mann earlier on the show. he's an independent adviser to the uk government on anti—semitism ism. he said that rowley should not be fired. in fact, he said he felt sorry for the police officer who clearly messed up. leroy, what's your take? >> well, i don't think this is a reason for mark rowley to tend his resignation. every individual officer has that, discretion to deal with matters, as he or her sees fit within the legal frameworks , the wording of legal frameworks, the wording of the officer is, inappropriate,
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but what he was trying to achieve was to ensure that there was not an inflamed situation at the march, because if, you have someone who is against the ethos as a march and they are seen to be agitating , then them going be agitating, then them going into the march is going to cause an affray or further public order offences or even assaults. so that's the last thing you want. so it's a it's a thankless task that officers are being placed in, that they are damned if they do, damned if they don't . and, obviously, parliament really needs to look at how they improve or increase legislation to prevent these things from occurring. so that one, you don't have as many of these, protests that are, causing agitation at other factions and two, to prevent both parties being kept apart so that you don't have potential for breach
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of the peace or other public order offences . order offences. >> and, leroy, when you use the word agitator , agitating here, word agitator, agitating here, are you implying this was some kind of setup ? kind of setup? >> i wouldn't discount the possibility that there is more sinister reasons for this person wanting to make his, concerns known in a way that he found an officer who has used the wrong wording because apparently this wasn't the only officer he approached to try and cross the roads, and it just seems like this officer was fair game because he had used the wrong wording. >> but they, previous officers had told him that he couldn't cross the road and he could be escorted over, the road. but because they hadn't used inappropriate wording, he didn't put it on social media and other platforms . so i put it on social media and other platforms. so i think he's more of an agitator than just an
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innocent person who just wants to cross the road because he had his security with him. he had his security with him. he had his , people filming, he has got his, people filming, he has got a social media profile that shows that he is willing to, do, make his opposition, to these marches and to the pro—palestine movement known , because he sees movement known, because he sees as anti—semitic. so he has got, more, behind his actions than he's willing to declare. but nevertheless, leroy, we speak to anti—semitism campaigners, often times on gb news, and many of them do feel that the police, we can say on the one hand, they're stepping to in try and protect, protect gideon, falter here. >> but they often say they feel that the policing is two tiered. i mean, why would they turn this onto this guy and say, you're being openly jewish, therefore implying the problem is you and you implied there you feel he's
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an agitator, maybe even a satyr. but the continual thing we hear is that the jewish community feel the police aren't protecting them adequately . protecting them adequately. >> yeah, i hear that. but the thing is, the police can't stop these marches unless parliament gives them the powers to stop these marches. then i can see where people, well, they would see things in a different light because obviously , they would because obviously, they would have to take into account all of the other stakeholders involved in the this ongoing process, you know , conflict in gaza and how know, conflict in gaza and how it's playing out not only in the uk but, other parts of europe. so, it's not in the commissioner's gift to, to stop these marches . i agree there's these marches. i agree there's an inconsistency in how the policing arranged are done. and he seemed to be a light touch compared to other marches. but like everything, that it it's a very complex and difficult task and the slightest word out of
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place. it's on social media and it's inflamed. but i would confirm that there's more to , confirm that there's more to, certain people wanting to just cross the road as in this instance, there's more to it than meets the eye. >> okay. leo logan, former met police superintendent. thanks your expert analysis on the show. now, let's get more on this hour's big breaking news. the mps have rejected the first of the lords amendments aimed at ensuring rwanda could not be treated as safe unless it was deemed so by an independent monitoring body . and let's speak monitoring body. and let's speak now with our political editor, chris hope. chris the first vote has happened. what's the latest ? has happened. what's the latest? >> that's right martin, the vote has happened here in the house of commons. the vote was on whether rwanda was a safe country. it has been very clear the commons has voted for a motion that disagrees with amendment 3g. that's a boring, technical, technocratic language for this motion , and that for this motion, and that regular checks on whether rwanda was a safe country by 306 to
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229, that is a big majority . so 229, that is a big majority. so what is happening here is the commons is showing in terms that it clearly believes that the lords is wrong . the second one lords is wrong. the second one is being voted on. now that should come back the same way. we're seeing the shape now 60 or so majority here indicating to the unelected lords back down on rwanda. we're going to keep going all night. if that's what what's required. the battle for the rwanda bill martin is starting right now . starting right now. >> it's going to be a long night to get some coffee in chris hope live from westminster hall. thanks for that update. now, moving swiftly on, megan has reinvented herself as a maker of jam, but she's already found herself in a bit of a pickle. i'm martin daubney on
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defence of her best friend meghan markle, calling her an inspiring woman suffering hate for getting on with her life and the duchess of sussex has faced widespread criticism after she sent 50 friends and influencers gift wrapped jam jars to celebrate the launch of the first product of a new brand, american riviera orchard . well, american riviera orchard. well, let's speak now to a great friend of the show, the former bbc royal correspondent and a man who likes his jam, michael cole. mike all the absurdity continues. what's the latest ? continues. what's the latest? >> yeah. >> yeah. >> good afternoon martin. >> good afternoon martin. >> yeah, the, the plot thickens even as the jam sets, this has become a major story . become a major story. >> vie, even the great financial times took an interest at the weekend, helpfully pointing out that you can get a jar of, duchy organic strawberry jam, for £2.80 at a well—known supermarket at now duchy organic, the proprietor of that
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of course, is his royal highness the prince of wales, prince william, and the older brother of prince harry. and here we see it, american riviera orchard, montecito jam. now, as far as i know, 50, as you say, have been distributed to her nearest and dearest friends and influencers. i'm not sure that a single jar has been sold yet, and we don't even know what the price is going to be. but there is in hollywood, as there tends to be in hollywood, there's a celebrity supermarket called erewhon, which is nowhere back, back to front, and they sell jars of honey, not jam, honey, that have been made by the bees who are owned by celebrities for up to $250 a jar. now, you know we're getting here. this is this is getting very serious. and of course, her mates, she's got
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some interesting friends, some this melissa mccarthy, who is an actress in something i've never heard of, but anyway, she says, sticking up for good old meghan. and meghan's a woman of her own. and meghan's a woman of her own. and she. oh, there we are seeing miss mccarthy. but other friends of the great meghan have taken the contrary view and think that , going down this route of selling jam , is not going to get selling jam, is not going to get her anywhere in life . the fact her anywhere in life. the fact of the matter is, martin, she's got to make money, she's got to capitalise on her royal status and she set up this blog, this lifestyle , channel. and it's lifestyle, channel. and it's interesting that she's calling the konserve jam in america . the konserve jam in america. they tend to. >> michael, i'm going to have to interject there because we're gonna have to call time on jam. you've earned your bread. thanks for joining us on the show, michael cole. always a pleasure. now, that's all from me for now.
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dewbs& co is next. don't forget 6 am. it's breakfast with eamonn and isabel. then it's britain's newsroom at 930. and then good afternoon, britain from midday. i'm back at three. i'm martin daubney. this is gb news. but first, here's your weather and it's annie shuttleworth. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hello. good afternoon. welcome to your latest gb news weather update. well, for the rest of the day, it's going to stay feeling quite cold. but we do have some late sunshine to come , particularly for northern come, particularly for northern areas. however, in the south this weather front still sinking southwards through this evening and overnight, bringing quite a lot of cloud and some drizzly rain to central areas of england and wales, as well as the south coast of wales. later on this evening we'll also see some further rain arrive into parts of lincolnshire, the humber. here we could see some quite persistent low cloud as well. so
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quite a murky evening here. however further north it's going to brighten up or clear up across northern ireland, many northwestern areas of england and much of scotland. we'll be quite a cold night, but frost will be very much restricted to the far south—east, so a fairly chilly start to the day for many areas of the uk . chilly start to the day for many areas of the uk. but it's going to be a much drier and brighter day for the bulk of the uk today. the best of sunshine across northern ireland, western areas of scotland . here, areas of scotland. here, temperatures will likely rise into the mid—teens . however, into the mid—teens. however, across the south it'll stay cloudy, particularly across the south—east where rain will come and go through. the afternoon should stay dry, though . further should stay dry, though. further west and there is quite a chilly onshore breeze along the east coast, so that will bring a chillier feel here. and that will lead us into quite a cold night on tuesday night. so a bit of a wider risk of frost to start the day on wednesday, but it does look like another fairly dry and fine day. but still we've got that pesky onshore northerly wind across the east coast looking ahead to the rest of the week, while some further cold nights to come and it turns a bit more unsettled on friday.
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earlier on today saying that proceedings are going to carry on tonight until whatever time it takes to get this rwanda plan over the line. tough talk and i like it. but will it actually happen or not? also, the boss of the uk's biggest police force, the uk's biggest police force, the met, facing yet more calls to resign or be sacked. this is all after that story of the so—called openly jewish guy who was told that his presence at the pro—palestinian march was antagonise istic sir, should he stay or should he go? you tell me. and get this. keir starmer
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